The Mac Observers' Mackie Gap, episode 888 for Monday, September 6th, 2021. And welcome to the Mac Observers' Mackie Gap, the show where you send in your tips, your questions, your cool stuff found. Sometimes your tips are short, sometimes they're quick. It's kind of how things go. We morph all those into an agenda. We mash them together. We string them together. We try to organize them such that we each get to learn at least five new things every single time we get together. Sponsors for this episode include TextExpander.com slash podcast, LinkedIn.com slash MGG, where you can post your first job for free and a new one, DraftKings, where you can download the DraftKings app now and use code MGG to get a free shot at their one million dollar top prize. We have details to share about all of that. And we will do so shortly later here in the episode. But for now back finally here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton. And here in Fairfield, Connecticut, this is John Afron. Hey, man. So I'm still on Pacific Time, so I'm trying here. But I was out in in Portland and then we were supposed to go to see some concerts in Tahoe, but because of the fire's date, fish actually did the logistical near impossibility of moving to concerts five days before they happened, which I can't even imagine what that took on their part to do. I mean, for me, all I had to do was book a different hotel and change my flights, which was trivial. But but we wound up being in in Mountain View, California. You know, when you get those because they played it shoreline. So I got to see a bunch of old friends in in in San Francisco or in the Bay Area. You know, when when you get those emails, every email from Google. And it says like 1,800 Amphitheater Parkway in Mountain View, California. I drove Amphitheater Parkway four times last week because shoreline is right behind Google's campus. So it was I saw I didn't even think about it.  It's a huge campus, obviously. But but I never thought about it until like after we got back, we got like a Google Voice mail message in our email here at Mac, whatever that we'll play later in the show. And and I saw, you know, 1,800 Amphitheater Parkway. And I was like, oh, hey, wait a minute, I was right there. Like, you know, you never think about these things. Anyway, John, I have since I've been back, I have or at least for the last 24 hours, I have been dealing with having to basically reauthenticate and re-login to everything on this computer. And that's because I got a new motherboard for about the last year. I have had an issue that you may remember me talking about on this show where I realized that my ethernet port on the 2019 iMac in the studio would only negotiate 100 megabit connections, not gigabit connections. And it took me a while to realize that this was going on because, you know, it would it would take a few seconds to negotiate. But, you know, once it negotiated, it's fine. Like, you don't I don't spend a lot of time looking at the you can see that in system preferences, network, ethernet hardware. You can see how fast the connection is, but I don't spend a lot of time in there unless I'm troubleshooting something. And so one day I was and I noticed it. And since then, I've been using the ethernet port on my Thunderbolt dock, which happily negotiates a gigabit. And so it's been fine. But I figured I should get this fixed. So being away for nine days was a perfect opportunity to take this computer in. So pretty much right after we recorded the last episode of after we recorded 887, I took it down to the folks at Mac Edge in Portsmouth, New Hampshire here. They are our local Apple authorized service provider. And and then they finished it while I was while I was gone. They put a new motherboard in. But like they were there. They they do a great job there. They are excellent folks. They know like great, great folks. They are really smart, really talented. But they their diagnostics are really interesting. Like they put my computer as I brought it in as they were checking it in or checking me in, they put my computer on the diagnostic bench and had it run its diagnostic. So before I even left and it took maybe, you know, five or ten minutes, they had confirmed that the computer passed all the diagnostics and or accept, I should say, it connected to their Ethernet network at 100 instead of a thousand. So it was like, perfect. They've seen the problem like just I mean, they knew how to contact me and all that stuff, but it was a very efficient process. So I'm happy to have it back. But the problem is when you get a new motherboard, man, everything changes. So my of course, my my Ethernet reservation changed because my Mac address changed. It also changed because I moved it from my dock to back to my computer, but it would have changed on the computer anyway. But everything else, like I had to re log in to all my apps, all iCloud. Like no, basically no apps would launch before I I re logged in. I had to re log in to set up this morning to send out the tweet. When we were doing the show, I had to re log into Twitter and and that's just a normal byproduct of changing a motherboard out underneath the the computer. So it was it's been it's been interesting, but it works great now. So it's all good. But just bear that in mind if you ever have a motherboard replaced that that there are there are many things that that you will then go through to remind you that you had your motherboard replaced. They're not terrible. Yeah, you know, yeah. Well, yeah, I think. So I think every Mac, in addition to the Ethernet Mac address, also has, I think, a GUID buried in there somewhere, which is also like another unique identifier for that machine. Yes. And I think that's incorporated in a lot of software where you have to register something. That makes sense because my serial number didn't change, right? But interesting. Yeah. If you I think if you were to get like an aftermarket, you know, third party motherboard or not third party. But if you were to get a motherboard from a third party, it would be an Apple motherboard that you would wind up with the serial number assigned to that motherboard. Apple dealers and authorized service providers are able to reprogram it and put your original serial number back in. So yeah, my serial number doesn't change. But I think you're totally right that the GUID, whatever that GUID is, baked into the motherboard, obviously does change. So, you know, but thankfully we're able to do it without messing with any of my data or or other settings. So it's it's been fairly smooth. But but yeah, it's fascinating, fascinating. All the all the things that, you know, as I launch them, it's like, oh, yeah, got to do that. Oh, yeah, I got to do this. But another thing to check. Mackage did this part right. But I had actually I had the genius bar, I don't know, four or five years ago, replace the I don't even think they replaced the motherboard. I think they just replaced the CPU slash GPU unit in my 2014 Retina iMac. And they replaced it with the wrong speed chip. So this was this was not my most recent repair. That one, they did fine. But I knew to check for it because a genius bar had done the wrong one in the past. And when I call them, they were super embarrassed about it, obviously. And, you know, at first they were like, well, we can get you in, you know, we have an appointment for next week. And it's like, no, no. In fact, I think I realized it while I was shopping. Like we we picked it up and then went and had lunch at whatever mall the, you know, the Apple store was in, I think probably in Salem, New Hampshire. And I realized that looking at the receipt in my email at lunch, I was like, we got to go back. And they were like, yeah, we can't get you in today. Like, you don't seem to understand. Like, this is now your priority. You put the wrong chip in my computer. So check that, though. If you know, if you're getting things replaced, make sure that that they replace it with the right thing, because lots of things will work inside your computer. You know, those parts are modular. So always make sure to check. I did check. Like I said, a mackage did the right thing. No great surprise. All right. Should we should we do some quick tips, my friend? Sure. OK, my first one is or our first one is for me. I spent, as I said, nine, maybe 10 days on the road. And I did not this was not technically a vacation. We were moving our son into school. And then, like I said, went to those those two concerts. But but I, you know, work needed to continue. And so for both of us, you know, and so we made sure we had either an Airbnb or in in Mountain View, we had a hotel that, you know, gave us ample space for us both to work and that sort of thing, which is sort of important. But what really helped was using a handoff, I guess it's part of handoff. Really, it's just treated as an airplay display where we actually we both used our iPads as second screens for our Macs. And it's super easy to just set up your iPad next to your Mac.  And that's it. Boom. It's there. It's done. You can drag windows back and forth. And it to me, I'm used to a lot of screen real estate when I'm when I'm working. I have two monitors here actually in the studio. I have two down in my office. And though it wasn't a 27 inch screen that I was able to add to my Mac, it really even just having a 10 inch iMac iPad screen rather. Sidecar. That's the name. Thank you to Kiwi Graham and Warren in our chat room at live.mackycup.com. Sidecar. So using Sidecar, which is essentially using the iPad as a as a separate display, but made it, I don't know, it just made the experience more immersive for me. I wasn't fighting as much with windows. It's just really nice to have a second screen to put something else on so I can kind of have two things up at once. So anyway, 13 inch MacBook Air and and the the 10 inch display. Made all the difference in the world. It made me super productive. So yeah, just just a quick to heads up when we did some of those remote events. I would often do that.  Yes. Yeah. Oh, I see. Like even just in your house because you were doing those remote events on your laptop, not on the Mac mini in your studio. Got it. OK. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, it's right. Exactly. When you have to have a video up or something full screen, having that extra screen that you can, like you said, take notes on. That's a great idea. I like it. Mr. X has a quick tip for us. He says it would probably be helpful to remind the audience that even when you're using a VPN, you can still leak your real IP via DNS leaking. And there is a useful site to test for DNS leaks. And it's called DNS leak test dot com. So we will put a link to that in the show notes. And this is correct. You can if DNS isn't being routed through the VPN, you can still very easily leak your real IP to a to a DNS server and and may even wind up getting DNS results that are specific to your area and not the area that you're intending to VPN from. So that's a great tip. Thank you, Mr. X. We'll put that link in the show notes at MacGeekUp.com. Of course, if you go visit MacGeekUp.com, you can give us your email and sign up for the list so that you get show notes delivered to your inbox every week. You don't even have to look for them just right there. You have to go once then after that. It's all good. Brian has a lot before we go to that. Have you ever dealt with the DNS leaks or anything like that, John? No, no. OK, to check it out. Yeah. Listener Brian has a good quick tip. If you are using RAID, he says after months of working with support at Soft Raid to solve disk locking, kernel panics and other strange problems with a brand new Thunder Bay 4. They told me sleep does not like RAID volumes. So they suggested either using lock screen and only allowing display to sleep, which means uncheck put hard disks to sleep and check prevent sleep when display is off. If not shutting down entirely overnight. So shutdown is OK, but but sleeping the Mac and sleeping disks specifically is is an issue, he said. So yeah, he was having all kinds of RAID issues, but turning off sleep seems to have solved them. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess that makes it. I feel like there's a way to fix this, but it also makes sense, right? Because if you're Mac, if you're using software RAID, either Apples or Soft Raids, you know, it's your Mac that's managing those volumes. And so I could see where the sleep wake process, especially if it's a boot volume, might be an issue. I don't know. Again, I feel like there's a this should be a solvable problem and with allowing sleep. But but, you know, it's how it goes. Right. I don't know. Any thoughts on that before we move on to some stuff? As far as I know, all of both my drobo and synologies will spin down the disks after a certain amount of time. Right. But that's hardware RAID, yacht software RAID to two very different things. But a great distinction. Yeah, yeah, letting your Mac sleep if you're using some kind of hardware RAID or especially a networked RAID device, no problem. It's software RAID where your Mac is actually managing the RAID itself. That seems to be the issue. Brian's reporting here. Yeah. Yeah. But even direct attached hardware RAID, which exists, I don't think is is affected by this problem, but certainly network attached is not. Yeah, cool. Hey, let's jump to Cool Stuff Found, John. And you have you have something I'm eager to hear about. Yes, I have a cool stuff found and. Here it is. What is it? Kind of everyone that can't see it. Yes. It's round and it has a hole drilled into it. What it is is the Chipolo one spot. Hey, what's it do? It's the first device that I'm aware of. And I bought some when you just saw I had it or maybe you didn't. Unless you that's right. If you're just listening, you can't see it. It's basically the first find my network device that's not from Apple. Really? Yeah. OK. So there's an upside and a downside. So one, it only supports Bluetooth. It does not have the ultra wide band. OK. So that's the downside. You know, it'll still locate your stuff is just that you don't get the magic circle and all that stuff when you get close to something. But it will show you directions on the map as you walk towards it. OK, I see. OK. So so this is effectively a third party air tag without the same level of granularity as an air tag. Right. Is there a benefit to this device, though? Keep on. Number two, it has a hole drilled into it. That is a problem with the air tag is that you have to get an external holder. Or you can. I wouldn't recommend it if you know where to drill. You can drill a hole in the air tag. Of course, you'll make it then not water resistant, I would think. And also you may destroy it. So right. Yeah. So if you need a hole, you know, to put on like a key ring and stuff. And then here's the other advantage, Dave. This thing. Hold on here, let's see. All right, ready? I'm going to play a sound. OK, that's a pretty sound. Yeah, but it's also, dude, it's like a hundred decibels.  So is it louder than the apple one? Oh, OK. All right. I don't know how loud apples is. Yeah, yeah, apples isn't that loud.  Kind of like this, those two. But I noticed when we talked, we might have talked about this on the show. I noticed that when when I first got my air tags, that it it seemed really quiet and like almost to the point where it was too quiet if I was even in the room with it, and then I went four rooms away and I rang it and it was the same volume four rooms away. So apples chose in a frequency or a pattern that seems to to carry very well, even though it's not loud. So I'd be curious to see, you know, if you put two of these things next to each other, if you kept getting further and further away and ringing the air tag in the Chipolo one spot, you know, how is there a point at which you hear the Chipolo but not the air tag? Because that's really what matters, right? Decibels are part of the equation. But but, you know, being able to sound, being able to carry is a is a different part of that equation. But yeah, that's good. OK. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah. And the pricing's about the same. A four pack you can get for under a hundred dollars. OK. Apple. Yep. But, you know, it takes the same battery, CR 2032, I think. Sure. Placeable battery. Yeah. So, you know, it's an option. It'll be interesting to see who else jumps on the find by a bandwagon. These guys are the first. Actually, I never heard of them until I saw a post on Twitter about them. Yeah, I would I would like to see it start being embedded into other devices that that have functions other than just being an air tag or, you know, like it'd be cool to have it in other things like, you know, I don't even know, like baked into a key ring or baked into a wallet, right? Like, find me.  Chipolo, I look and they do have a wallet size locator, though it's not. Find my it's using, I guess, just regular old Bluetooth. Just their own proprietary thing. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Hey, while we're at it, we should we have a question about air tags. And so I figure we should answer that while we're here. Listener Carl asks, he says, you were recently talking about putting air tags into your luggage, which I did again on this trip. And I loved it when you travel so you can keep track of where your bags are. However, when we fly, we are always told to put our cell phones into airplane modes so that they don't interfere with the airplane electronics. If there were a bunch of air tags in the luggage in the cargo hold, could they start interfering with the airplane's electronics? So the answer is I mean, I'll say maybe I don't want to say definitively no. But the reason we are told to put our cell phones in airplane mode is to turn off the mobile radio, the cellular radio. But Bluetooth and Wi-Fi are perfectly acceptable on the plane. In fact, this is worth noting. If you go and turn on airplane mode on your phone, you can then turn Wi-Fi and Bluetooth individually or both back on. And your phone will remember that that's what you want for airplane mode. So the next time you turn on airplane mode, your Wi-Fi will remain on. And that might not be what you want the next time you turn on airplane mode. So just bear that in mind. But yeah, Wi-Fi and Bluetooth are totally fine on the plane. I use Bluetooth for my headphones as do many, many people on the plane. And of course, planes themselves have their own Wi-Fi network. So Wi-Fi is is fine. As far as the cell phone, the reasoning behind why we don't use or shouldn't use cell phones on planes, it's it's twofold. And I, as I understand it, the primary reason is not the plane's electronics, but it's the cell network. The cell network is built to do handoffs assuming that you are on the ground. And if you are flying above the towers, you know, mile above the towers, those handoffs don't don't like it's a very different set of math. And it screws up the network. But also when you are doing those handoffs, you know, sometimes if your phone is at the edge of a signal range and you have it near a speaker, you can hear that chattering chirping sound. If you had a hundred phones doing that, that could cause issues not just with the plane's electronics, but with the pilot's ability to hear radio chatter in their headsets. So so, yes, there there are, as I understand it, I'll put an article in here from the Honolulu Civil Bee, which which actually goes through all of this stuff. But those those are all factors. So yes, it could interfere. There is a nonzero chance that it could interfere with the plane's electronics. But it's more. But if that were if that were a greater chance, then they would they would be enforcing this with a whole lot more rigor than they do because, you know, Timmy always leaves his phone turned on on the plane.  But but it's it's, you know, it's a nonzero chance, but it's more that the FCC has said, yeah, no, no, no. We don't want we don't want to tax the cell network this way. So turn them off, folks. You're probably not going to get a signal most of the time anyway. But anyway, we'll put a thing in the thing. And if you know more about this feedback at Mackey, come. Did you say feedback at Mackey, I did. But you might not have been able to hear me because my phone's at the edge of the range. And so it might have been chattering in your ears. So yeah, I said feedback at Mackey.com. Yeah. Yeah, I found similar. It was one of these Q&A sites or something like that. But and it was from supposedly from a pilot. And he said, yeah, the main reason is that, yeah, so the power level of a cell phone trying to phone home can get into, like, I think he quoted like six watts or something, which is a lot of power relatively speaking for and yes, that it would interfere not so much with the radar and stuff, but with voice communications. Yeah. Yeah. We took a small it was a Cessna 172 we went up in when we got to Portland and it was actually a blast. The guy took us down like the the Columbia River so we could see the gorge, but we were flying at a thousand feet and never once did he suggest we needed to turn off our cell phones. And, you know, we had to climb to 1500 when we went over the dam as per local, you know, air airspace regulations. But otherwise we were sitting at a thousand feet and our cell phones work totally fine, as you would imagine. I mean, we were lower than the tops of a lot of the, you know, hills that we were flying in between. And it was an amazingly smooth ride, too. Like it was weird. It was like one of the smoothest airplane rides I've ever had, regardless of plane size, which is sort of weird, but it was it was fun. But yeah, you know, in a small plane, depending on your intended cruising altitudes, it may not be an issue, but, you know, going up to 35,000 or if you're in a private plane, private jet that they all fly at 45,000. So they stay away from commercial traffic, you know, that you definitely you're not going to get a signal reliably up there. All right. Yeah, moving on. Listen, right? Moving on. Yeah. Well, listener Mark shares a cool stuff found. He says you guys have mentioned a better finder rename on the show a few times from memory. And I was reminded of it on a recent show where you were talking about Regec, Reg X, which is the key to A B F R's capabilities, but I have not heard mention of B M F M, which is big mean folder machine. When COVID hit, we needed to shut off or shut down our office and get everyone working from home at the same time as turning a very paper based business into an all electronic version of the same. Each job had a paper folder that went from group to group as the job progressed. That's difficult when the groups are not in the same building. We had files all over the place and would be adding more and more as we started saving to disk rather than printing the combination of A B F R to get all of the various files into a consistent naming convention and then B M F M made from the same folks as A B F R to move them all into their newly consolidated home was awesome. Thanks for this, Mark. That makes a lot of sense. I had I never knew about big mean folder machine. So now I can't say that anymore. Now we know. It's great. I like it. Did you know about B M F M, John? No. Yeah. It's pretty cool, right? All right. While we were traveling, I noticed an article that Andrew put up here, Andrew or put up here, the Mac observer. And it's an app called a shell, a dash dash shell. Easy for me to say that's a terminal app for iOS and iPad OS. And it supports Python, Pearl, text, C plus plus and all kinds of Unix utilities. And it's got even more commands now, including things like F F M peg and on R are it like, yeah, so it's a terminal app for your phone. And and now you can use a what's the command? It's in the article anyway, but you can one of the new commands they added allows you to force it, force your iPhone to trigger iCloud download. So it's actually got it's not just, you know, an interesting thing. It's got some utility. And if you need to force an iCloud sync, you can do that. So I think it's a pick folder or something. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, it's it's in the article. I will I will put the link to the article in the show notes. Mackie come but yeah, I was stoked to see that. So it's fun. While we're on the subject of the terminal, John, listener Todd shared something with me that I never knew about and I now love. He says, when I set up a new iMac, I install homebrew. And then next I install TLDR with homebrew. And you do it by typing brew install TLDR. TLDR provides simplified man pages for the tasks you are most likely going to be running in the terminal. You don't have to rummage around through the man pages or Google for appropriate syntax, it lists and if you, you know, if you type TLDR and then a command name. So I did TLDR space net stat, right? Just to see what it would tell me. And it gave me like four of the most common examples of what people actually use net stat for and how to invoke them with it. And so I didn't have to go and like he said, you know, either read the man page or more often than not, I find that it might find myself at stack exchange where someone has, you know, effectively TLDR it being like, oh, if you want to see this, do that. And so TLDR is now, well, it doesn't have a home on this Mac because I just got, I just got home to this Mac and this Mac just got home. But it will have a home on this Mac. In fact, I'm going to go ahead and type brew install TLDR right now and hope that I don't break everything because now it's going to be here on this Mac. Did you know about TLDR, John? The traditional definition, yes, but this implementation, no. The command, TLDR, of course, means too long, didn't read. And it's something if you post that, it tells everybody that basically you just have an off the wall opinion and you actually didn't read the article. Right. No, no, no, that's not what it means. No, what it means is it's I just typed a long opus. And if you don't want to read my long opus, the TLDR is the summary of that article. So that's that. And that's what it does here, too, right? It says, don't bother reading and digesting the man page just to get here. TLDR, this is all you need to know. This is the summary. So TLDR is a summary. Yeah, yeah, yeah. TLDR, if you're traveling at all, get yourself traveling at all on planes with any regularity, which I realize we haven't been doing for a while. But as we get back to that, get yourself an Oculus Quest 2. They're like 400 bucks. This is a VR headset. My son wound up buying one, I guess, right after he got home from school this past spring with the intention and and and he followed through on this of taking it with him to school because it will allow him to play video games without having a big TV in his dorm room. And so we got a chance to use it all summer and it really is truly amazing.  I'm surprised we haven't talked about it in the show, but I really don't think we have.  It like it doesn't look like the real world. It's clearly computer generated and all of that, but it is enough to the visual cues of it are enough to make you feel like you're in another world. In fact, the best example that we've been doing with people all summer is that there's an app called Walk the Plank or Rogers Plank or something where you you are brought up 50 stories in a building and the elevator opens and there is a wooden plank dangling over the the sidewalk. And I don't know. I have not experienced many people who are able to walk out onto the plank without a lot of a lot of effort at first. It certainly I talked about the plank. In fact, years ago, when I experienced it at CES, they had some VR exhibit in the Seagate booth. It's the same thing. And it scared me the same way, like knees shaking, sweating. What I'm getting to, though, is my son brought it with him to school, which meant he had it in his carry on on the plane. They have a Netflix app for it. We were on JetBlue. JetBlue continues to understand what they need to deliver to give people a good flying experience. They were the first ones with TVs, right? And and now they're the only ones with like super fast and included in the price of your ticket Wi-Fi. Their Wi-Fi is fast enough that you can actually stream Netflix. And this is relevant because I put on Lucas's headset is his Oculus headset with headphones. And I was in another world. I was in a living room with a big huge screen and I was navigating Netflix. And then I hit go and the lights dimmed in the room. And I was able to watch a thing. I mean, I only watched for like five minutes, but it was amazing. And I was completely removed from the, you know, cramped hellscape of being on an airplane. Really, truly, if I was traveling, like I used to travel once every four to six weeks or something like that. If I was traveling with that frequency right now, I would absolutely buy one of these things. It's wireless, which is great. But you can obviously plug it in and charge it while you're going because it does burn power. You know, I think you only get three or four hours power out of it. But the Quest 2 is is pretty cool. It's it's a pretty amazing little device. We had two of them for a period of time this summer because they Amazon sent my son the wrong size. Like they come in different, you know, you can get 128 gig or 256 or whatever it is. And they sent him the wrong size. And so they sent him another one and he had 30 days to return the first one. We played ping pong, John, on it from different rooms of the house. It was no, it was like we were playing ping pong together. It's like truly amazing how how fluid the experience is. It's pretty cool. So. Yeah, highly recommended. They were hard to get last Christmas. I think they're pretty easy to get right now. Well, I guess we got two more cool stuffs found, huh, John? Oh, OK. Right. I don't know. OK. Martin has a cool stuff found that is a follow up. We've been or as Martin says in a recent episode, you discussed a requirement or a desire to inspect email headers. So he has an answer for a geek challenge from time to time in iOS. He says, I'm currently looking at an email app called Altamail, which, among other things, will allow header inspection in its iOS app. It also has Mac and iPhone apps or Mac and iPad apps as well. Sorry. The downside for me is that it is a subscription and it's a little too heavy weight for my semi retired status. So so there you go. Thank you for that. We'll put a link to Altamail there and I believe Altamail works with any email server like any IMAP server. Yeah, it's from EuroSmartz. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They do. I forgot about EuroSmartz, John. They make apps that are for like people like like this is a perfect example. People that want to get a little geekier with their stuff. This gives they give you more options.  I forgot about EuroSmartz. Good stuff. Cool. Thoughts on that? Any thoughts on that, John? No. OK. All right. One last one from Steve. While we're on the subject of email clients, Steve says a fellow Mac user friend of mine was looking over my shoulder the other day and pointed to an app on my dock and said, what is that? And when I clicked on it and showed him my stream, he was blown away and it reminded me of how blown away I was when I first discovered this app a couple years ago. It's still technically in beta. He says, which I don't understand because it works flawlessly. But if you have several Gmail accounts like I do, this native Mac app is a game changer. It essentially is an email client for Gmail. And it does an amazing job of keeping the key features of Gmail and a browser that we love so much like the Promotions tab, spam filtering, et cetera, but doing it through a locally installed and very well executed app that is native to the Mac, the developers are super engaged and responsive as I've provided a lot of feedback over the years, which they've seemed to appreciate. Very cool. All right. Yeah, I had no idea. My stream existed. I don't think we've ever mentioned it on the show before. If we have I have forgotten about it. So you use Gmail for anything, Mr. Ron. No. OK. All right. Cool. No, just just my TMO accounts. Yeah. Yeah, I'm still I'm not still like I'm very happy about my move to Fastmail. And as somebody pointed out, the Fastmail app will also show allow you to view email headers, but it only works with Fastmail accounts. But but Fastmail has a decent iOS app, too. So but that Fastmail has been great, man. All right. We have we have more follow ups. 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So there are two ways to do this. The first is simply by using Siri on your phone and saying, hey, I don't like to say the hey word and the Siri word right next to each other in case your voice is similar enough to mine that I trigger your phone. So you say Siri so and so. So for me, I'd say Siri, Lisa is my wife or Lisa Hamilton is my wife. And then Siri would make that connection. And you can even like tell it, you know, is no longer, which I'm not going to say because I don't want to put that out into the world. I like having Lisa as my wife. But, you know, you can use Siri to to connect and disconnect people that way. There is another way of doing this or to just see what those those relationships are. And it is in your my contact card.  It will bring you to your card. And if you scroll down, you should be able to see if you have any of these relationships defined, you can also edit your card. And add those relationships all the way down. So I have, you know, spouse, brother, son, sister, father, mother, daughter. Like those are all listed there and I can add other contacts. And so it relates these contacts back to me. And then I could say, you know, Siri, call my daughter and it would know who my daughter was based on this relation. Of course, you can edit them and change them there, too, if if you desire. I realized I had I had my son in there as my child.  It's just I mean, it's not weird. He is my son, but I would just never say it that way. But I figured why not make it accurate, you know, so. Yeah, no. So it is doable and thank you to everybody, everybody, everybody. Sure. Yeah, everybody. That's what we'll say for for sending all that in you all rock because because that's that's how you are. I love it when a geek challenge is is met with so much so much detail and fervor and ease. It's awesome. All right. Moving on up. Yeah, so we got something here from Jonathan. And Jonathan says, I got a text from my power company reminding me that chargers draw power even when they're not connected to a device or when the connected device is ready charged. They suggest that you should disconnect those chargers. We're not in use to save power considering how many chargers we have.  Any idea how much power draws attributed to this. I'd never heard of this before or seen info on how much energy is wasted this way. So I did a quick verification of the second case. It's not quite the right answer. I'll tell you how to get the right answer. But so I had one of my machines was fully charged. And so I plugged the power adapter into it and I used my little USB C USB C power meter. And sure enough, even when my machine was fully charged, which machine? MacBook Pro. Thanks. Sixteen inch. Yeah. So yeah. And sure enough, even though the battery was fully charged, the power meter showed that it was, in fact, drawing power. But that's because it was it was a computer in use, right? It's not it's not your charger that was drawing power. It was your computer that was drawing power, which is which is different from what his power company is alerting him to. His power company saying, even if your computer is right, like your computer was 100 percent, yes, but you were also using it. So it had to draw power from something. Either the battery to deplete it, which would then need to be recharged.  Yeah, I mean, the way to properly measure it. So one, if you know how to use a multimeter, you could look at the power draw from your wall, but that's 120 volts. So be careful that you don't electrocute yourself. How would you do that with a multi now? I'm curious, how would like I'm comfortable electricity? I'll do this. How I mean, you can put I'll have to say, like Paulie outlets series. Yeah, right. You'd have to put it in series, which my multimeter won't do. My multimeter would let me go in parallel because it's got two leads, but I don't I don't think that would tell me how much current was flowing across it, maybe. Yeah, I'll have to look. I'm almost certain my multimeter has a current thing or maybe it doesn't. Maybe I'm just I mean, you can measure the voltage. I mean, putting the leads in in the right and the left and setting the multimeter to AC voltage, you can measure the voltage. Sure, I'm going to have to review how to measure the current. Or I'm sure you could get a current meter. Well, the way I would do it is I would get a smart outlet that measures current. I mean, I mean, you're right, a current meter would do it. But to add some utility and some, you know, geekiness to the process, why not get something that's going to tell you via Wi-Fi what it's actually using? Right. And then you could if you got a smart outlet, if you find that your charger or I mean, like an individual charger is probably going to use so little that it's not worth doing this. But academically, like, yes, I'm sure there's some. But if you had like a big charging brick by your bedside table, let's say, that, you know, could charge four or five things, maybe that does use some significant power if you put it on a smart outlet and got a smart outlet that managed that that monitored power usage, you could a monitor the power usage, which would answer your questions, but also you could have that outlet turn itself off, say, during the day when you are not there and therefore not putting your devices on charge at night. And so again, I like I feel like this is more academic than it is practical. I could be wrong, though. I haven't I haven't put a power on my charge. My. So I have an atomy smart AC control. And among the things that it collects is the amount of power being drawn through it, which is nice.  Yeah, I don't know of a standalone smart outlet. Oh, there's tons of them. Oh, OK. Yeah, I don't I don't know one off the top of my head. Yeah, I mean, I have one of the Amazon ones that I use to turn my laser printer on and off, but I don't get measures power. Smart outlet power meter. Yeah, I'm finding.  So you can buy a four pack of BN link Wi-Fi heavy duty smart plug outlet. No hub required with energy monitoring and timer function. White 25 bucks for four of them. Now, those aren't going to be home kit folks, but they will be, you know, Amazon A lady and those sorts of things. So like I could see that being handy and there's a there's a zillion of them. You can pay any. I mean, I think. Yeah, I get the sense that the power draw that. Yeah, it's like academic. Is it the power draw? Spending the money. It's going to take twenty six dollars. It's going to take a lot of money to recoup what you spend on the things to measure the the power draw. I think I could have this totally wrong. But I I definitely saw a report recently that that. Talked about how much energy in normal places. So not Hawaii, where our prices are like four times as much. But how much how much energy? What the cost was to charge your iPhone every day for a year. And I want to it was definitely less than ten dollars a year, right? Like it was I think it was in the six or seven dollar range. And that's to charge your iPhone. That's actually putting, you know, power into the battery that you're then going to use so without charging your iPhone. I think you might be at seven dollars over the over your lifetime, unless something has a super inefficient power supply. Like if you're noticed, here's a good way to tell when your device is not being charged, when nothing's plugged into it, you know, other than maybe the cable, touch the device, touch its power. If it has a power supply, that would actually be a warning sign if your charger has its own power supply. That's probably a sign that is built inefficiently, but touch the power supply, touch the charger. If it's hot, then it's wasting electricity unless you're using it to heat your house, which, you know, I guess, or maybe you put your coffee on it and kill two birds. I don't know. But touch it. If you can feel heat, then there's something wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I actually did that one time. So I bought a it looked like an Apple MagSafe charger for my prior machine. Sure. But it didn't have an Apple on it, but it looked exactly the same. I think it was probably made in the same factory that Apple makes theirs. Or it was a good knockoff. Sure. I mean, it was a lot less expensive than Apple's. But here's one thing I did to tell the difference between the two. So I have one of these Seek thermal thermal cameras. Oh, OK. All right. And I aimed it at both and the knockoff was definitely warmer. So they use different components that I think were less efficient than the Apple product. That's really smart. Huh. Oh, interesting. All right. Those thermal cameras are cool, man. So this is my I used it to detect. Seek is the one that I seek thermal thermal dot com. OK, I'll put a link in the show notes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it's handy. The other thing I used it for is finding spots in your house where all the heat is escaping in the winter. Oh, I actually used it to find a duct. So there was one part of my house that was like really cool. And I found a duct that I didn't know existed. That totally makes sense. That's brilliant, man. Oh, because it was cooler than everything else around it. And I was like, what's going on here? And I found it was a exhaust for the for the stove, sure, that they then sealed over for whatever reason. I don't know why. Interesting. All right. I mean, I'm going to put a link to seek thermal in there. But but if you can update it, you know, we'll be after the show with a link to your specific camera so that people can can do the same thing you can. That'd be awesome. Wow. What a guy. I love this. I got to get one. I mean, it's mostly I'm asking you to put it in there so I can order one. But that's different. You know, I mean, that that's what this shows about, right? Like we talk about the things that interest us. And therefore, you know, because the things that interest us interest you. It all works together. That's how the audience thing works. It's beautiful. All right. While we're on the subject of chargers a few weeks ago, I asked people for feedback about whether they use Qi as their primary or perhaps even only method of charging. And we got actually quite a bit of feedback about that. And there's lots of you that do. Matt, Matt's comment actually sums it up really well. So I'm going to let Matt take it away. Hey, Dave, John and I do pilot Pete. I'm a couple episodes back. So maybe on in the past couple of weeks, Matt from Chapel Hill, just checking in with a brief comment, a couple of episodes ago, Dave, you were checking in about does anyone use their Qi charging exclusively and I have to say that of late, probably, I don't know, six or so months, that's the way I've been doing it. And I really enjoy it. I particularly like it as I have it next to my bed. And so I just put it down and in the morning I pick it back up. And I don't have to fiddle with anything. I can do it by feel, which is great. And I've also been using my watch as my kind of nightstand. My Apple Watch is my nightstand time. And that that works for me. Just a brief kind of tip, I guess, as well, if anyone is like I am, likes to use the magnetic car mounts in the vents. I thought that would prevent me from using Qi effectively. But I have found that if I use a case with a back, that's important. So that I can sandwich the metal disc at the bottom. This is where I put it. This is the key here. Put that metal disc at the quite near the bottom of the back of the phone. It still supports the phone. In fact, the weight of the phone seems to be just fine in supporting that the mount, the magnetic mount. But also it's for me, anyway, far enough below the Qi coils that when I then put it down on my, I have an anchor, not the high, not the fast, the high speed, but just the standard. I guess that's five or so watts. It does not interfere with Qi charging at all. And I would just say then also for me, you wondered, oh, well, can you tell if it's charging or not charging? And my phone anyway gives an audible ding or dong sound so I can always tell when I put it down. If it's charging appropriately. But anyway, you can have your cake and eat it. You can use the magnetic disc center quite low. If you have a case with a back, I have a clear back and get the charging done. So anyway, that's for me. Thanks for doing what you do. Don't get caught. Thank you very much, Matt. That's great. And in addition to Matt's sort of intentional tip, his comment that he uses his watch on his nightstand. What a fantastic thing for those of us that that don't do that at home. Don't forget about it. All you have to do is put your watch on charge and then lay it on its side with the crown up and your watch will go into nightstand mode, which, well, I was traveling for the last couple of weeks or the last week and a half, whatever, was awesome because I, you know, the places I stayed didn't necessarily have clocks right next to the bed, but it didn't matter. I can have my watch right there. If I think my watch was going, I think I have mindset not to just be on maybe that's normal, I don't know. But, you know, I had to do is like tap it a little bit and I can see the time right from bed and it's right there and it's super handy. So, yeah, that's it. These little these little touches really do make a difference. So thank you for all that, Matt. That's great. You want to take us to David? Well, we'll stick with our our charger. Yes. So David asks, checking in on a topic, I'm not sure you've covered. No, we haven't. How long should I expect my charger to last? I've had one for about three years. The charge is three devices and the watch is fine. The other two spots don't seem to charge as well as they did. Is this something that's common? Are they only made to last for a couple of years? Three years seems a bit short. But then again, it was only 25 bucks. Hard for me to say, because the first cheap charger that I bought is about three years old and it still works. So I so, yeah, I mean, there's really no moving parts. So it shouldn't so it shouldn't ever fail in my humble opinion. Yeah, the the only thing that I could think of is that I mean, there is heat involved here, right? Like, so is is that going to burn something out over time?  Heat's the only thing happening. There are no moving parts. So as long as the as long as heat doesn't have a negative effect on that coil, then yeah, the only thing you can think of is that if if if you perceive that it's not charging as quickly as it used to, you may want to check your power source for it just to make sure it's providing the enough power to the. It sounds like it's a mat since he says he could put three things on it. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, I mean, the power supply may be going. You may want to get one of those USB power meters and just see how much juice it's getting and if it's enough for it to if it's powered by USB, it might not be like a normal cheep had. Yes, his if he's using a mat that may or may not be like my mat. The God, why can't I ever remember who makes it? I think it's Belkin. It sits right behind me. I use it all the time. Sorry, it's not Belkin. It's Nomad. I don't know why I have so much trouble with that. But that Nomad charging that does use a USB-C power delivery to to power it. So I could put a power meter on that. Just remember, compare apples to apples, right? Know that the power that it draws is not the power your devices are getting because you're losing, you know, probably 50 percent of it to heat. I think is about what what has been reported in general. I don't know about that, Matt, in particular. But but, you know, quite a bit is lost to heat in the process. But as long as you're just comparing, like I here is me charging my iPhone at 10 percent, right? Because your iPhone will draw different power at 10 percent than at 90 percent. Right. And so be very careful that you're you're controlling all the variables. But as long as you are, then you can check it, you know, once a month and see is the, you know, is is the usage declining. And if so, there you go now, now you know. So, yeah, one last little follow up, I'd love to get to some questions today. Although we're taking a lot of time with these follow ups, and it's great. It was from the chat room live.mackykev.com. Listener Alan 567 noted the answer to yet another geek challenge was that I wanted to see my iPhone's console without it being plugged into power because power changes what the iPhone will do. And he reminds us or tells us, if we didn't know, which I don't think I did, that I'm amazing will let you view your iPhone's console without it being wired to your Mac, it will see it wirelessly. So bear that in mind, too. Thank you, Alan. Great stuff. And I think Ferrer sent in that same note as well. So thank you to everybody. All right, let's see how many questions we can do here, John. So Listener John sends in the question and says, I'm going to migrate to iCloud Plus with custom email domains. And once the final release is available, how would you recommend moving around 20 gig of email across from my current provider to iCloud? My inbox itself contains about 16,000 emails, plus I have older emails stored in various archive mailboxes. I've set up the Google backup service to backup my emails to my Google Drive. So could I download the backup from there and then import to my Mac? But just wondered is if there's a better way, how would you verify that everything has successfully copied? It might sound like a simple question, but from past experience, I think there is significant risk of the copy process being incomplete without me knowing it. Yeah, you're right. That if if you're a mail provider and in this case, it's iCloud and I am pretty certain of the answer here. But if your mail provider does not offer a server to server migration path, then your best, perhaps, only way of doing it is by using your mail client. And so your suggestion, John, of downloading the inbox archives and importing them into your mail client, that would work. Just make sure you set up your new email box, you know, your iMac email box first and then import those inboxes into your existing iMac boxes, so import the inbox into that inbox and then it will upload it from your Mac to the server. The way I've done it in the distant past when I have done this migration is to simply connect to both iMac accounts at the same time, which mail is perfectly happy to let you do, and then go to, say, my inbox, command A to select all and then you could do it by dragging, but it's so many messages that I would hate to land on the wrong thing. So I go to like the messages menu or I right click and choose move and choose my target and choose wisely and carefully and then say go and then just leave mail alone. Don't let your computer sleep. You know, just let it do its thing. The mail activity window will give you some indication as to how it's progressing, but it's not perfect. But that's really the only way to do it. It's one of the things I loved about my recent migration to fastmail was that they have a server to server migration and I just gave it my Google credentials and went to sleep. And by the time I woke up, it had slurped it all in from the server. And the way to check is to, you know, spot check it, go to your inbox and see. Do you have, you know, 16,402 messages in one and 16,402 messages in the other? So great. Good to go. If not, well, do it again. So yeah. I had to a while ago, I think when I signed up for Yahoo and I wanted to transfer some stuff and at that point, Apple Mail wasn't that great at copying a large number of emails from one server to another. So just the caution because I ran into it.  SMTP error, you mean? SMTP. Yeah. Sorry. No, that's good. Yeah. Yeah, it was like, oh, I couldn't I couldn't transfer one of these emails because there's something wrong with the header or something. So and it would stop. I was like, well, that's things. So the way I solved the problem is I would copy in small batches like I'd drag over a hundred at a time. Oh, it kind of sucked. But eventually got over. That's so good. Yeah, I've had I've moved thousands at a time and it's fine. But you're right. I mean, it can get wonky. The moving and I use the word move. I should not have copy is the right thing. No reason to move them, leave them where they are. The copy process would be the right way. Yeah, so. All right. Good luck with that, John.  Shall we shall we go to Todd here, John? Sure. OK, Todd. Well, Todd is going to say what Todd has to say. Hi, I'm Hi, I'm Mac Geeky Gabbers. This is AD Todd out of Utah.  I'm running an older MacBook, all I can afford. It's got high Sierra on it. But something I've never been quite sure of for all of OS 10 is should I be running Onyx on a like a weekly basis or maybe a monthly basis and booting into safe mode to clear cash isn't so on on a weekly or monthly basis. It's my understanding and I could easily be wrong that for the maintenance routines to run, the system has to be left on 24 hours a day. I use mine in the morning, I use mine in the afternoon. I turn it off when I go to bed. You know, so it's on maybe about half the day. Am I doing something really wrong? I would be interested in hearing your responses and replies in the upcoming Mac Geeky Maccast. Keep up the good work. Keep having fun and don't be like me. Like I said, I think I've been caught. Bye bye. No problem. And yeah, Maccast is a fantastic show. But we and I love Adam and we will but we will give you some answers here. John, you want to start? You know, everything that was suggested sounds like a good thing to do. OK, the thing is personally, Dave, I don't take any of these steps until something starts going wrong. Well, let me take that back. So there's one thing that I do is that I do a restart of my of this. My Mac mini, I do a restart of it once a week. Yeah, yeah, per your suggestion, because it gets wonky. And usually that manifests itself as like weird audio and video glitches. Yeah. Yep, I was going to say do a restart every 10 days or or less like on my laptop. That's whenever I notice my laptop getting weird or doing strange things. And this is true of any computer, but my desktop's like you. I use energy saver to schedule a restart and so I don't deal with it. But but if I notice my laptop getting weird and I look at how long it's been up, it's almost always double digits in terms of days. So yeah, that's good advice. Yeah. Yeah. Other than that, of doing the other things he said, like run onyx or food and safe mode, I typically don't take those steps until something is not working right. That's fair. Yeah. There's what there's what what I should do and what I actually do. That's fair. I'll be honest with you. No, I'm kind of the same. He, in fact, I'm definitely the same. I generally only run onyx if I if I know there's a problem or I'm trying to troubleshoot something, he asked about the maintenance scripts. There's a bit of a misconception there. They will run if your computer is asleep. So you don't need to leave it on 24 seven. There was a period of time where they were more likely to run if your computer was on or more likely not to run if your computer was asleep. But but I but Apple has has dealt with that for the most part. However, if you have a computer that is asleep a lot, like a laptop that you aren't using as your daily driver, that may not run maintenance as often as you want. So it's worth checking that or simply doing that with onyx just to stay ahead of it. But, you know, for a desktop Mac or just one that you use regularly, I don't think you're going to have a problem. I think it's going to take that maintenance is going to happen. So yeah, it's good stuff. You know, we have so many more questions, John, than we are going to have time to answer here today. So I think what we need to do is we'll do another show next week. We'll do eight eighty nine. I think we have to I don't think we can. I don't think we can end. We don't get to just stop doing the show. So send in your questions. Like we said, feedback at Mac geek.com. We'd love to hear from you. We do love to hear from you. Whatever you have to share, it's awesome. It's amazing. It's amazing. Anything else, John? Did I have anything? Did you have anything else for Todd's question? I brought in the band. So no, no, maybe I jumped the gun. All right. Well, thanks for listening. Go subscribe on YouTube. And that way you can see and hear the segments that that we chop out and share for you. So it's youtube.com slash Mac geek podcast. But that link is right there in the show notes for your. Clicking pleasure. Clicking ease convenience. Why don't we just use the word convenience and not make it weird? OK, that's what I got. You got anything else, John? I got nothing. All right. Make sure to check out our sponsors, folks. Of course, draft kings dot com with code MGG to get your free shot at a million dollar top prize, LinkedIn dot com slash MGG to post your first job for free. And text expander dot com slash podcast to 20% off the first year. See all the other deals we have at Mac geek up dot com slash sponsors. Thanks for hanging out with us, folks. Thanks for listening. Thanks for sharing all of your quick tips and questions and all that. And yeah. Oh, oh, John, one more thing. Don't get caught.


Everybody this Brett and it's May 30th 2023 and I'm gonna do our lot walk It's Tuesday I normally do these on Mondays, but we had Memorial Day weekend Hope everybody had a safe and relaxing weekend anyways got a ton of stuff in I was here till Friday booking in vehicles till like noon and Since then I've gotten about 15 more vehicles in some of these are gonna be copies from the last video Remember all these videos are gonna be linked in the description below so definitely check us out on our website So you can get all the information on these vehicles I'm gonna go through really quick because I got a lot of work to do today and Here we go starting off. We got a 2016 Ram 3500 Laramie limited in this one has 47,000 miles on it white pearl. This is just the normal six seven with the 68 RFE automatic transmission It's in really nice condition from what I can see Just looking at it right now the interiors really clean non-smoker. This is the 2022 in anti-matter blue F350 that we got in last week already. So we already went over that one. There is the 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk with 103,000 miles didn't get it into service like I wanted on Friday We just got really busy. There's the Audi Q5 that we got in last week as well This is I confirmed a 2016 F350 This one has like 70,000 miles on it. This is kind of a cool Ram 3500. This is a 17 megacab SLT duly it's got some big wheels and tires on it I wouldn't be surprised if it has a leveling kit, but it's got catskin leather and this one has 37,000 miles on it. I don't know if this is an icing or not But pretty cool truck. It's got the power boards And that's in really nice condition as well Here is a Chevy Camaro that we just got in. I believe this is a 2 SS 2019 and I want to say like 8,000 miles on it and We have 6,000 miles on it. So really nice car. I didn't see any blemishes Of course, I didn't really look it over that great this morning. This one came in on Saturday or Sunday Got dropped off Not sure if that's Riverside blue or which blue that is but really good-looking car and that's in really nice shape this is a 2019 Ram 3500 Megacab Laramie That's in really nice shape just came in granite crystal and this one has I want to say 74,000 miles on it it's got a couple little dings in the box that will fix and This one has 70,000 miles on it. So Really nice and clean inside This is a 2017 Jeep Cherokee. This is a latitude Trayton four by four Not sure if this is the v6 or the turbo But it's got a couple little dings and stuff on it. This one has like 68,000 miles on it, too This is a 2019 Ram 1500 classic body style crew cab Short box Ram box and this one has like 88,000 miles on it really nice condition If you don't mind the miles this thing is pretty pretty darn clean. It's a big horn and In really nice shape the classic body style so you can still can get the classic body style in 2019 We have a Jeep renegade I think this is an altitude addition. Oh, yeah, it's got the panel rough. Nobody closed that this weekend so we'll have to close that and This one has 69,000 miles on it. This is a trading from the weekend really clean I didn't see any dents on that. It looks like it's just a front-wheel drive But pretty nice condition. These are a couple new grand Cherokees. Here is a 2015 Yukon SLT SLE This one has 90 some thousand miles on it has the a passenger really nice condition 92,000 miles. It's got the second row bench third row seats nice and clean inside That'll be a very nice piece for us This is also a brand new renegade This is a Ram 2500 that we got in Cummins diesel and Patriot blue is the color. This is a 2020. That's in really nice shape Got a couple of dings unbox. We'll fix those and Not really sure 30,000 miles 36,000 miles on this one. I believe 34,000 miles Anyways Things got brand new tires somebody put those on recently. Otherwise those firestones are usually Destroyed or gone. They look like they're brand new on there so Like new tires on that one still has the blue on there and then we have a 2021 Dodge Challenger Red Eye Hellcat 700 or 807 horsepower. This one only has 2,000 miles. It is like new wide body, of course Our last Red Eye went in like about a week once we got the title actually one in like two days once we got the title Anyways, that will be a hot car as well. And finally I have a 2000 and 22 Chevy Silverado 2500 double cab Z71 LT1 from California That thing's in really nice condition and I apologize not knowing the miles on it. I think it's 20,000 miles or so Anyways, I've got a book all these in today and get the paperwork to our service department So we can get these through 11,000 miles on this truck and LT1. It's got power seat all-weather formats Really a nice vehicle. There's another new compass and thank you so much for checking out the lot walk Remember all these vehicles. Oh, we also got a 2017 Corvette in I don't know if you can see that over there That is a zero six three LZ We actually have that one sold already came in and we sold it before I could even look at it anyways That's all the vehicles that came in remember everything is linked in the description below and thanks for checking out the video Remember to like subscribe and share on the YouTube channel click all the links and thanks again


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