Hi, this is Yoosafim Bhartya and welcome to another episode of TFR. Let's talk. And today we have two guests from Diagrid. Mark first of all, CEO and co-founder, as well as Iran, Schneider co-founder and CTO of the company, as well as co-creators of Dapper Project. Mark, Iran, it's great to have you both on the show. It's fantastic to be here with you. Thank you. It's great to be here. This is the first time I'm talking to you folks, so I would love to know a bit more about the company and the project. So any of you can take the lead and tell us about the company and the project. Well, let me jump in here. Yes, so Yaron and I both spent many years working on distributed systems platforms and different technologies. And whilst we were together working at Microsoft, we came across many scenarios where we worked with developers who had to build these distributed applications that had to solve hard problems. And so we sat down and we thought about how is it that we make developers lives easier. And so we started a project there called Dapper or distributed application runtime. That's all about helping developers build scalable distributed applications on platforms like Kubernetes. And it was very successful as a project.  It's extremely popular with the community. We have many, many thousands of contributors contributing to part of it all. And so because of that, we thought, wow, we can take this to the next level. We can really impact the industry here. And so we decided to set up our own company called Diagrid. Excellent. Thanks for the story. We have covered Dapper before. But I do want to go into the bit of an original story of Dapper as well is that where did the idea originate and also what happens in most cases with these open source projects that you start a project to solve a specific problem. As the user base and how it grows, the use case, the scope of the project also grows. So if you can talk also about the kind of evolution of the project as well. I think the project started off in a pretty interesting way because both Mark and I were looking at solving the same problem that developers were facing. But we were working at Microsoft at the time for two different teams. I was working at the time for the Azure Incubations team, which was a highly advanced technological team under the office of the CTO in the Microsoft Cloud. Mark was working on another team that was doing distributed systems across a fleet of services inside of Azure. And we're both looking into how to take these services and really give developers the ability to use them outside of Azure Cloud. And while we were doing that, we realized, hey, there is a really big opportunity here to take the tech and the inspiration for the APIs that were designed internally and make them open source and then reach a whole wide new set of user base and developers. And so Mark and I started working together. We created an idea. We kind of like funded it inside of Microsoft. We spun up an engineering team, open sourced it in October of 2019. And yeah, it's been garnering huge attention in the community ever since. Can you talk about what kind of community around, when I say community, it's also the containers, developers who are involved with the project, but also the user community who are using it. In terms of contributors, there's many cloud vendors contributing Alibaba Cloud, Microsoft, companies like Intel, HashiCorp were pretty early contributors to the project. As for end users, they come from all verticals, really healthcare, finance, banking, manufacturing, tech-savvy enterprises, web scale companies, NASA is actually running Dapper in our space on the International Space Station. You can search for that. Many interesting use cases across a wide variety of verticals. And Dapper is very much focused about developer productivity. It's about developers being able to build their applications faster and not having to build their own plumbing code for common design patterns that you see all the time for like microservices architecture. So for example, if you're building an event-driven application where you want to send messages between services, Dapper gives you a pub sub concept and an API that allows you to get into your development fast and get your solutions fast. Or if you want to be able to build a long-running, stateful application, it does state management for you. So these are the sort of things that rather than developers having to figure out exactly themselves, build it and make choices, Dapper is a productivity API that allows to get their solutions fast. Excellent. Thank you. Now let's talk about Diagrid and a perfect example of open source, where there's open source project, but open source alone without commercial backing, it won't survive. Sustainability, we do need a commercial angle. So talk a bit about the relationship between Diagrid and Dapper, how you're helping the community and at the same time how you're helping the user community who not just want Dapper, but they want a lot of additional features support behind that. So let's talk about that. Yeah, so I mean where we are with Diagrid, we see ourselves as a developer focusing company. We want to build solutions and tools and API platform to make developers productive. So one place that we started with today is that we see that many, many developers take Dapper and they run it on top of Kubernetes as a platform in production. Kubernetes has become the de facto standard for how you host and run large scale applications. And of course Kubernetes itself has challenges. Anything that you deploy on Kubernetes, you have to manage and run and Dapper amongst all those projects has that as well. It has a control plane that you have to deploy and upgrade and manage. It has a rich of metrics that come from it all. So one place that we are working closely with the community today is that we've built a service inside the Diagrid cloud called Diagrid Conductor and it helps operators and developers manage Dapper running on Kubernetes. So in other words, it gathers the metrics information, it gives them insights to their application, it gives them advice and best practices. There's a lot of insights that we've gained working with hundreds of enterprises that allow them to understand how to run Dapper in production. We sort of codified that into sort of roles and best practices. So this tool Conductor and this service Conductor really allows enterprises to kind of get to grips with operating and managing Dapper in production. And we've seen huge usage of this in terms of their productivity to be able to increase their reliability, increase their security and overall operate Dapper in these production environments on Kubernetes. From Diagrid's perspective, what kind of solutions, just to look at it, what kind of things you're offering to customers and users? So everyone running Dapper on Kubernetes today, they are basically needing to manage and operate Dapper on top of these platforms themselves and that can be very troublesome. It incurs lots of cognitive overhead on top of infrastructure teams. And so we offer a fully automated Dapper on Kubernetes. So that product called Diagrid Conductor really takes away all of the toil of operating Dapper on Kubernetes. And then we have a second product coming out, which is a serverless Dapper, fully managed Dapper that basically takes the Dapper APIs that are really lucrative for developers everywhere and offers them to developers running on serverless platforms like AWS Lambda, Google Cloud Functions, App Engine, AWS AppRunner, Vercel Functions, Cloud Flare, all of these edge compute serverless platforms and really accelerate developer productivity by providing them with these ready-made best practices baked into these developer primitives. KubeCon is almost here. Talk a bit about your presence at the event. What kind of things you will be showing at the upcoming KubeCon? Yeah, first we're super excited about KubeCon. It's an amazing audience time to meet developers in person and things. We'll be there, we'll have a booth and come up and meet us. One of the main things we'll be talking about there is our conductive service about a lot of enhancements we've put into it recently, things that help you do your certificate management, how you do visualization and operation of your running Dapper in production. So that's the main thing we're going to be engaging with people there and we'd love to hear your stories. In fact, what we'd like to do more than anything is we'd like to help companies kind of adopt and actually grow their Dapper user base. So we often provide architectural guidance to companies if they want to come along and talk about their stories, the needs that they have. And we are very active also in working into the Dapper community, having our engineering team contribute into that. So often hearing about how Dapper fits into your problem space, how you think it can be a good solution to you and how we can help even contribute solutions to the open source thing that would help your Dapper adapter. So come and talk about architectural guidance for using Dapper as well as the services we offer in our Diagram Cloud. Also, there are many Dapper talks at KubeCon this year, at least three that I know of. So yeah, highly recommend to go check those out because they show a lot of Dapper usage in really interesting scenarios, like autonomous vehicles and Dapper and Wasm, for example. So those are always really interesting because Dapper is really at the forefront of the bleeding edge of distributed systems in Cloud Native. It's pretty interesting actually because Dapper is fairly unique in the CNCF space because many of the technologies are very operator-focused and that thing but Dapper is very much developer-focused technology. And we find that a lot of developers turn up to KubeCon. It's a very important conference for them and Dapper is very central to a developer's capabilities to be able to build these distributed applications. So it's kind of quite unique in terms of one of the technologies that's inside CNCF. Mark, you're on. Thank you so much for taking time out today and talk about Dapper, talk about Diagrid. And as usual, I would love to have you back on the show and we'll look forward to meeting you folks at KubeCon as well. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.


Team keep it clean. What's going on? Appreciate y'all waiting out on the stream for me, man I love man. I love y'all man y'all are the best y'all are the best But team keep it clean. What's going on is engraving here with another video and how come nobody told me man How come nobody told me nobody told me I was reading um Late for work this morning Not I didn't say I was late for work. I was reading late for work That's the article on the Ravens website Baltimore Ravens.com. Look that I gave them a plug We ain't even sponsored or nothing like that. But anyway, I was reading late for work this morning and they They said that Tavon young caught a pic in OTA's So I'm like, man, what's up? Why nobody tell me my boy Tay Tay was healthy.  I didn't know I did not know What's up Aiden? What's up everybody? I had no clue man. That like got me a hype My Friday's already been going great and I hope y'all has been too, but no, I ain't no Byron I didn't know I did not know I Had no idea Tavon young was healthy. I knew that He was back like I Seen pictures of him and I seen pictures of him with the Hellman on in the Jersey But still that ain't mean nothing to me. I thought he was just there I thought he was just there and you know how to injure guys they got to be there But they don't practice. I thought he was just there, but I ain't know he was back man. Shout out to my guy So that was great news man, that was a great news Now we just want to see a 22 there, but that might that might not be for a little while So he got a like I like I said before he got the injured at the end of the season. So what's up Phillip? What's up Drake? Okay, good pyro. That's what it is man. That's exactly what it is. Glad life is well, man I'm I'm getting cold. I don't know how I'm getting cold. What's up Marina appreciate all y'all coming through What's up, Marcus?  This is great. This is great. This is great. This is like This is nice man. You know, I love y'all you you want me to show y'all why I love y'all How you can tell I love y'all because this you see the them two and a half pieces of chicken left I had that left. I was doing my um, I was doing Getting ready to do my live stream But I say, you know what? Let me eat first because these things take they take forever I said, but let me eat first. So what happened? I started eating and then I was like, you know what? I said, I can't I can't uh Before I finish eating, let me go ahead and start the live stream. I said, let me start the live stream so I started up the live stream and I Said, you know what? I had to cut my lunch short. I cut it short I cut it short So for y'all though, so it was worth it. I'm sure it was worth it Um, because this news is like I mean it to some of y'all y'all already telling me that it's not even news Um, because y'all already knew what's up, nick? Um, but yeah, man This is this is great. This is great If we can go into the season with healthy cornerbacks and jimmy smith I'm not counting on him and I'm not saying that out of um, I'm not saying that I'm not saying that out of anger anything. I'm not counting on them though. Um But if we can go, I'm not even gonna worry about jimmy smith If we can go with brandon carmall and humphrey taevan young, um avrit. Hopefully he's nice canady um Levine and then of course the safeties and whatnot, but they've been healthy if we can go into the season with Healthy cornerbacks man. Oh boy, man. Oh boy. Hey marina. We are almost there. We are almost to 10k, man Almost y'all make sure y'all leave a like on the video too We got 44 people up in here, but it's 45 people up in here, but only 22 likes y'all make sure y'all leave a like on the video And if y'all can y'all please let me know when it's like 255 I know probably everybody gonna forget Like I'm forgetting now. I can't see the time on my phone right now Let me know when it's 255 though, so I can head back in to work Bring elan back and see how he looks in the new system. Hey, you never know you never know But let's see him on another team. Let's see him do that. Um, appreciate y'all though, man. Thank y'all for coming through um That's great news though, man. That is great news. That is really great news Uh marina say not being racist, but I'm black and not being Sexist, but I'm a boy. Oh, oh my fault. Okay. All right. My fault marina. I thought okay Maybe using somebody else's youtube. That's fine. My apologies, man. What's up, philly for life? Uh, oh, I got 10 minutes. Okay. Appreciate that juice, man. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Um, so yeah, and make sure make sure y'all click the thumbs up button We got 46 people in here, but 31 likes man. He says shake my head matt elam only had one pick as a raven I mean, it ain't all about interceptions. So let me turn back on that a c I got I can't find a good temperature at it for it for it to be where i'm not um Um Where i'm not uh too cold and not too hot. It's tough. It's tough Oh, there's a person named marina that you like. Okay. Hey, that's what's up, man. Hope it works out never know Um, but it's it's been raining. Oh pyro say you live in florida and got it on a hoodie Hey, and where I work at it's cold, man. It's cold on the inside. It's so cold. Um, But it's been raining. So this is my umbrella because I ain't got no umbrella Oh, but sadly it's a fake. Hey, it's all good, man. It's all good It's all good Elam was a straight liability. Well, hey, they use elam wrong too. But anyway We on the positive stuff positive stuff taevan young We can get taevan young man. Oh boy. Well, we got him. So oh boy I didn't even see that it was a diving pick. I gotta see that man. Who's on the matter 19 cover? Yeah, terrell owens That was his big announcement. Um So it's like, okay, cool So madden 19 and if you get that hall of fame edition, then you can get it, uh On august 7th, so I mean, I'm I'm not Not that I'm not excited for madden, but I'm not excited as I used to be for it Because y'all know before madden used to be this channel used to be madden The old channel used to be madden, but now that we changed. Um, I'm just excited for football season, man Football season is what I'm looking forward to madden. Yeah, I'm still play madden We're gonna stream madden when we can but madden is not the focal point of this channel anymore As y'all know, especially the ones that have been here for a long time y'all know this channel just took a complete just change And I like it for the better now because it's more me now. I ain't gotta. Yeah, it's I like it now, man um, but yeah, so yeah madden 7 you get that that that, uh What the hall of fame edition is to want to cover he's not on a regular cover He's just on uh, he's just on the hall of fame edition.   Um Maybe because I don't play it as much as a lot of people play it.  It's never gonna happen. It's never gonna happen It's never gonna happen But here's what it is Franchise mode. I can't really say much because I don't really play franchise mode. Um Raven to save way until and jimmy smithy. You think he could make a transition to free safety I wouldn't want him to because he's such a good cornerback. He's such a good cornerback when he plays, man He's such a good cornerback, man, but here's what it is, man Hey, appreciate that unique you say crazy how an actual personality in honest opinion Can make up for an editing a good camera or mic Yeah, I appreciate that a lot man that that that like That that that hit me deep man. Appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Because I the madden videos this madden is it's a it's a lot man It's a lot having to edit the videos put them together. Um And just I mean because you gotta you gotta play the game which is fun You gotta chop the videos depending on how you like editing the videos for me I like the madden videos better when there was a full game So I could just talk talk talking that was it Editing the videos is a lot of fun too, but it's just it's so time-consuming and it can feel like Not like work work, but it can feel like work almost sometimes and When it comes to editing sometimes just be so tired, but this this raw stuff right here. This is my favorite. This is my favorite Uh, when they got vr madden team keeping clean will be having pick up games. Hey, that'll be fun, man You never know never know never know it could do that. That'll be cool, man Maybe they may let's see what madden 19 does because they incorporated Okay, appreciate it. Oh, you must have been in the military or the army You must have been in you must have been in in either one of the two You say 14 50. Okay. Appreciate that. Appreciate y'all giving me that heads up, man Um, I should have gave myself some extra time because it's raining and stuff and the parking lot of my job always gets flooded but Either way is what it is. Appreciate y'all, man Uh, yeah, you get to see the bloopers and everything when it's live when it's live You can't edit out anything. Nothing is edited. This is real deals. You get everything just like it is. So That's it. That's it. I remember there was one video that we did where um I was streaming from from the house and one video we did Uh, I was streaming in the hallway. Carter came running up behind me. I was like, say Carter What are you doing, man? He was playing around and stuff Then he ran toward the camera. Then he ran away from the camera and his butt was out I'm like, come on man. Like what's up, man? What are you doing? What are you doing? So You said what happened to the intro music? That's only for the edited videos That's only for those that I can't put it on these and let's find a way to do a little intro to have an intro on every video But I can't put it on these because these are just live. But yeah, man, that's Carter, man. But anyway, um Ken says Smith young Humphrey gonna be locking down offenses this year Hey, hopefully Smith can be hopefully everybody can be healthy man because injuries could happen to anybody But definitely Jimmy Smith. Hopefully he can be healthy. He can start the season healthy and he can stay healthy Even if he even even though I wouldn't want him to but if it's for the greater The greater good of the team and for the roster if he got to start on the the pop list the physically unable to perform this So be it. So be it. That's fine. Um, one more thing What to take from these OTAs before you got to get up out of here? What do I take from these OTAs? Um, and what you should take from the OTAs? Uh Uh No, man I You say Raven space. Just watch my car. Come on, man. Did he really? I believe sky's gonna be a number one. Uh, somewhere down the line. Hey, we'll see man I heard about the OTA thing. They said he was looking good yesterday or whatever Are you excited for the return of the college football gaming? No, I never really played college football gaming like that. I never really watched college football like that So either way Oh, you serious Marcus? Uh, hey, all right Cowboys expected appreciate you man. Um real quick what to take from the OTAs Just don't take too much from it. Don't take too much from it because They're practicing against each other There's not really defense out there. They're not really really playing each other like that They're not really going up against each other They're not going against people that don't want to see them succeed They're not going against people that want to see them fail when you on when people on the other team Are going against you they want to see you fail. So that's real competition But right now they're not going against anybody. They're going against all their teammates So don't take too much from it. I mean, it's nice to see people. Oh, that guy was making nice catches This is where teammates start building a reporter. This is where they start getting to know each other a little more This is where they start getting to uh, just know who they're going to be working with a little more Well for the people that make the team but um But just don't take too much from it. But just know that this is the beginning. Yeah This is the beginning. Uh, you also say OTA is beginning of a long season. OTA just getting them in football mode Yeah, man, get them in shaping what not getting them used to football. This is it, man. So You need they say if you see Rasha catching a football, you know, you can't trust it Whoo, so it's almost time for me to get back on out there now Uh, appreciate y'all. Thank you for watching. Yes, it is time for them to get in shape that you you write about that Um, so I appreciate y'all.  I enjoyed carrie williams. He had his ups and downs but everybody does I never talked. We didn't talk about pyramid a little bit But but even with that what to take from that. Yeah, we talked about that I think it was yesterday either yesterday or the day before but yeah We talked about how everybody made this big deal with that that picture of the catch And and I think it was who I think was my boy marcus. Why should I think he said that he saw the video on pyramid End up catching that pass so everybody but people were saying that oh his form is wrong and blah blah blah And I'm like, uh, I mean you you're gonna analyze all that from a picture Like you ain't even watching the motions of it. I mean like come on there, but People do they'll do anything They'll do anything. They'll say anything Just to say stuff. But anyway, appreciate y'all. Thank you for watching. Um, I guess I will enjoy the rest of my food At my job Because we had a stream and I say well stream or lunch stream or lunch. Well, we did a little bit of both So appreciate y'all man. Thank you Uh, it looked like he was fighting the ball. Ooh Well, that's not good Appreciate y'all. I see y'all have to work. Thank you. Make sure you subscribe Leave a like on the video click the thumbs up button and follow on twitter because youtube don't give you all your Notification like they supposed to they slip up on that. Love y'all. I'm out man. Thank you


Get her they're right there.    What are you doing? I got the high ground. I got the high ground Turn away from us. All right, very very sharp uniform. You're wearing my leg. I appreciate it Okay I'll put her brains all over that truck Yeah, Maroon Anybody else in the van yeah, in fact, there's an explosive in the van There's a bomb in the van ma'am I can't even believe I'm in the back of this car with you Miss elderly lady keep your your your your moustache real quick All right, I'm putting on my earmuffs. She's got a handcuffs on you You're under arrest Mr. Cornwood you can ask her if she would like to have a bench trial Ma'am, would you like to have a bench trial? I don't need to try any benches. You didn't even give me the option to sit down Ma'am, you can sit down right there. I can't move no one took my shackles off You can go in there and take her handcuffs off. Miss Cornwood. She doesn't have any contraband or anything that can harm us on her person's right? Nope, she does not All right Why don't you rough her up a little bit Cornwood? No, don't do that.  Quiz You can't pop quiz this man. He'll take it literally Why don't you give me as hard of a time as you're giving your hairline? You remember how to take See problem solved here now we can cover if she fell asleep She dies be a damn shame if she didn't Hey, why not This will be fine. Maybe we should roll her maybe we should roll her over make sure she doesn't know Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and roll her over we're flipping you over man Now she's suffocating on the ground Pull them back here Okay, ma'am ma'am. How are you doing? Do you know why you're here?  She talked about my hairline Are you kidding me? What I helped her You helped her do what I helped her learn a lesson. So you use unlawful force on somebody No, I think this is about as lawful as it gets. No, that's not lawful at all again But why the hell not in you want to go to prison?  What's wrong with that That's illegal.  What do you what is what are you without understanding? What is it?  That's not how that works. Mr.    She's probably better than ever.  Did you like that? No, I mean she's asking for it. It's okay.  I'm gonna spray hormone around your your apartment So the cat's about to die any minute now. You can't talk to old people like that.  She just stops. I swear she was doing it. See now.  She's not doing anything.  Please. I've had it. I've had it. I've been super patient today.   I do apologize Yes, ma'am you paid your dues here to to society maybe 103 years ago, and we realize that you may pass away soon So we're gonna respect you I You probably probably worked with my great great great great great grandmother and Jesus All right, keep standing in front of the Mr. Cornwood knocks you asshole You're taking the picture dummy Sorry Wish I do you want this some people say this is my better half would like to take a picture from here How do I take the photo? I like this half because I don't have to look at you This new key turn around, please All right, uh, mr. Corn we're gonna take her photo. Okay. Oh I need you to to use What type of photo application do you you have on your eyeball? Uh, how about we just do it like this? Lenny Lenny you want to get in here? No, I can I'll get guilty. No, mr. Cornwood. That's not how Let me see the picture We got that taken care of All right, I'll see myself out. No miss newt. Stay here. All right. Yes, sir Where's the picture at? Here, you know what actually I'm gonna just put it in the MDW What are you about to put this woman's water this woman's photo on water? Here just go ahead and check the NDAW for tell me what you think of that Mr. Cornwood Uh-huh.  What was wrong Your entire entire body is covering the actual photo of the suspect Well, what do you mean? You need a picture of miss newt not you. Yeah, but I want them to know that I bagged her Your name will be all over this I don't see what's wrong with this. I'm gonna be completely honest with you Mr. Mr. Cornwood, I need you to take your phone out and I need you to take a picture of just miss newt Miss dude, I appreciate your patience. I apologize. Oh, don't you worry about it, dear I'm used to having to wait on men.  Oh perfect. All right.  Ma'am. I was special ma'am. I was special teams MVP. Okay, you got to remember that I was special teams Freshman year east Texas Baptist University.   He's gonna be terrified Andrews Here it comes. I've got a very wet mouth Andrews Wait, hold on. This is serious What do we do what do we do? I just passed out from uh Cpd. Uh cpd out of my mom operas. Oh, oh, onomatopoeia There's a hippopotamus in the other dangerous in both water and across land They was creepers Hit me so hard. I feel like I'm walking differently Nobody hit you ma'am. Don't worry. Oh, okay All right, ma'am, you you have a mighty fine day now You have yourself on mighty fine day as well You'll be safe and you'll be especially safe. Maybe consider wearing a helmet whenever you're around this maroon Yeah, yes, ma'am. I will consider wearing that All right, dearies Now remember the other offer still open if you want to come over 7 30 I'll be serving warm apple crumble and vanilla ice cream Thank you, ma'am. We'll be there. Okay, sweetie See you soon. Bye. Bye. All right, ma'am. You have a nice day now.  He's pointing his gun at me again Hard as I try maybe I just can't I ain't no open kind of leaving thing She kissed me one time and she took my heart. Maybe you can love me. You can leave me. I'm on get on start


We present Nigel Antony in The Hornblower Story, adapted from four of the C.S. Forrester novels by Val Gilgood, with Terence Skelton as William Bush. Part three from Lieutenant Hornblower, The Landing. I've known bad moments at sea, carms when you wonder if the ship will ever move again, hurricanes, a cannon going adrift with the realization that you're up against heavier metal than you can tackle, a half-mutinous crew, a captain you couldn't trust. Baird all of them. Yet I think I'd take any of them rather than land at night on a beach, I don't know, to tackle the storming of a fort with a party of men, every one of them depending on his offices to know what to do, and to give him a lead. That was how it was when we went ashore, Lieutenant Bush and I, on the Semana Peninsula that night, with 180 seamen and marines from Renion, knowing that the fort on the hills above us must be carried by dawn, or we should all be dead or prisoners. Party all ashore, I'm ready to move, Mr. Bush. Very good, Mr. Hornblower, thank you. Shall I start up the gully with the advance guard, sir? Do so. Star Bowlings! Follow me closely. Every man is to keep in touch with the man ahead of him. Now, remember, your muskets aren't loaded, so it's no use snapping them. Cold steel to be run into the enemy. If anyone of you is full enough to load and fire, I promise you will get four dozen at the gangway tomorrow. Walton, bring up the rear. Follow me, starting on the right of the line. Your marines, Captain Whiting. All present at correct time, ready to move off. Thank you. Then we may as well start. Mr. Abbott, I shall go with the marine detachment, follow us, and be sure to keep in touch. Aye, aye, sir. The climb them isn't going to be easy.  Aye, aye, sir. Yes, who's there? This is Wellard, Mr. Bush. Mr. Hornblow sent me back to Actors' Guide, and there's grassland beginning about here. I'm neither deaf nor blind, Mr. Wellard. Captain Whiting? Sir? We'll go forward. You're in touch with Mr. Abbott. Yes, sir. Very well, Canyon. Sir. Friend, Mr. Hornblow, Mr. Bush is with me. Ah, glad to see you, sir. My party has formed up just ahead. I've sent on two reliable men to act as scouts. Very good, Mr. Hornblow. Captain Whiting. Sir? All the men in hand. All but one, says his brain is ankle. I've left him back there. Then let your men rest, Captain Whiting. Sir. They're hardly trained for climbing cliffs and the tropics. Your report, Mr. Hornblow. We're on the crest, sir. You can see into the bay from over there. How many miles from the fort, do you think? Well, three or so. Less than four miles, anyway. Dawn in four hours from now and the moon rises in half an hour. There's some sort of track along the crest, sir. As I judge, it should lead to the fort. That's reasonable. If you'll permit me, sir, I'll push on ahead and see how the land lies. Very good, Mr. Hornblow. It's a definite trail, sir. Crosses a gully just ahead. Not a serious obstacle. Then go forward with your party, if you please. Aye, aye, sir. Mr. Bush, sir. Here. Well, Lord, again, sir. Mr. Hornblow says there's another gully ahead crossing the path. And there's cattle, sir. We'll disturb them and they're warming a bar. I understand, Mr. Wellett. I'll warn the men. Tell Mr. Hornblow if I'm going to hop the advance for 15 minutes. Aye, aye, sir. Halt, there. Halt! Yes, Captain Whiting? Trouble. With one of your seamen. Drunk. Must have had spirits in his canteen. What have you done with him? Well, he started to make a noise while my marines knocked him out. He's quiet now. I'll do a steady man to look after him when we go on. Right. But you, Mr. Hornblow... It is, sir. I've sighted the fort. A mile ahead or thereabouts. There's another gully. The fort's beyond that. You can see it against the moon, maybe half a mile, maybe less. I've left orders with my party to stand fast at the gully while I report it back to you. Half a mile from the gully to the fort, you say? I'd estimate less than that, sir. Very well. I shall remain here and await daylight. Yes, Mr. Bush. May I go on and rejoin my party? You may. Shall I give permission to my mental load, sir? No, Captain Whiting. Cold steel. Justice, you say, sir? Now, listen. I want you to warn your men individually. Sir. They may run into stray cattle. I don't want any silly mistakes. Meanwhile, they can rest, sleep, if they like. Bernat's not to be fixed till you get my word to advance. And when we do, I want us to reach the fort in one wave, not in scattered twos and threes. Is that clear? Quite so. Very good. Carry on. The sky is beginning to fail, but there's still some time. As things turned out, the waiting had been the worst part of the business. The Spanish sentries were careless or sleepy. Bush brought up his men in fine style, using my grappinals to heist them up to the ramparts and axmen to hew their way through a wooden sallyport into one of the bastions. In a few minutes from earliest dawn to tropical sunrise, the fort had been carried. Most of the garrison had bolted down the hillside from the reeking bayonets of the marines. Remained the business of calling men drunk with fighting back to discipline, to decide with Bush and Captain Whiting on our next move. To the left, the peninsula dropped sharply in a series of jagged headlands to the deep blue of the ocean. Further round still was the sapphire surface of Scotsman's Bay, and there, with her backed mizzen topsoil catching the rising sun, lay renowned, looking at that distance like some lovely toy. Good morning, Mr. Hombler. Congratulations, sir. Thank you. We've got possession, sir. I've posted a petty officer and some men in charge of the guns. A few have got away. The marines are after them now. Not enough to travel, as I fancy. No, sir. I've 40 prisoners under guard at the main gate. Captain Whiting's collecting the rest. Very well. What's the building there at the foot of the ramp? Provision store, sir. I've put sentries on guard. There's liquor there. Double those sentries. In their present state of the men get at liquor, there'll be no controlling them. Mr. Abbott? Mr. Abbott?  I've not seen you since the attack began. Sorry, sir. Very sorry. A bit of trouble crossing the ditch, Mr. Bush. That's no excuse. Take a leaf out of young Weller's book here. He stayed beside Mr. Hombler. You should have stayed beside me. Yes, sir. Get ready to signal the ship. You should have been ready for that five minutes ago. Clear three guns and find the man who was carrying our color and bend it over the Spanish flag and jump to it. Aye, aye, sir. Mr. Hombler, try to find out who was in command of the dawn. Yes, sir. Come with me, Mr. Weller. Aye, aye, sir. Sir, it is me there. You need a party to help carry the wounded into the shade. See to it, if you please. Until someone has stopped that damn bell, it's the living I'm worried about. They can sail must for the dead at sundown.  May I draw a pair of charges from the four magazines?  Use your common sense. Sir, sir. Yes, Mr. Weller. What now? Can't you see I'm busy? Mr. Hombler sends his respects and could you please join me up on the tower there? He said it's urgent, sir. Oh, very well. But Mr. Hombler should know that I have a good many things on my mind at the moment. Sir, might I borrow your telescope, Mr. Bush? Telescope? Is that all you wanted before? Here. I merely want to see if Renown has heard our signal guns, sir. Well, have they? Yes, sir. She's bracing a mishandtropsel. So far so good. She'll make the long beat back along the coast of the peninsula. What else? Out there, Mr. Bush. Up the bay, beyond the battery. There's the town, Savannah, I think they call it, and you can see the shipping. They'll up anchor any minute now. You'll wish to see this for yourself, sir. I see four small craft and no sails hoisted. Hard to tell what they are. Easy to guess, sir. They didn't need big men of war here. A few handy craft with a couple of long guns could lie up there, dash out and snap out prizes, then retire to the protection of the bay and the crossfire of the fort and the battery. And we know what that meant. Just so, sir, those ships all know by now that we've got this fort and they'll guess that as a result Renown will be coming in after them as soon as she can get round the headland. And they can sweep, tow and cage, and I'll be out of the bay before we can say Jack Robinson. And what's more, they'll have a fair win for Martinique. Likely enough. It'll take Renown hours to make that long beat back on the starboard tank. She must get well out to sea if she's to weather the cape. No need to teach your grandmother, Mr. Hornblower. Sorry, sir. Wouldn't it be as well to man the guns here? We won't have them under fire for long. They'll be shallow-draft and they can hug that opposite shore. But it won't take much to sink them. Particularly if we use red-hot shots, sir. I see what you mean. Repay them in their own coin for what they did to Renown. Well, that's the idea, sir. We'll try. If those privateers get away, they might be the devil to pay. Can you do it, Mr. Hornblower? You know how to heat shot. I'll still find out, sir. None of our men will know. They're seamen, and you can't heat shot at sea for fear of fire. I expect I can find out, sir. Now, there's the furnace and all the gear that Don's used down there. By the way, had any breakfast yet? I know, Mr. Bush. Have you? Other things to see to. Now, mind that you do, and that's an order. Oh, yes, sir. May I have the telescope again, sir, before I go down? Thank you. Yes, I was right by George. That two masters warping out already. Less than an hour, I reckon, before she's within range. I'll get the guns, man. Once down in the body of the fort, smoke was soon rising from the furnace in one corner, and a loud crackling from inside it. Two long handles projected from the far side of the furnace, balancing two that projected from the near side. All four were part of an iron grating, the center of which rested above the blazing fuel. Lying on that grating were rows of black shot. The seamen was plying a pair of bellows. Other men in relays brought wood from where it had been piled by the Spaniards against their ramparts. Open her up. Let's see how she goes. Getting pretty warm. Try your spittle, Mr. Wellard. Spittle, sir. You can spick Wellard on that cannonball. A sharpish lad, sharpish. Aye, aye, sir. Oh, that boiled off quick enough. Did you see, Wilton? Aye, sir. We'll fry the devil. The tongs and bearers for the shot. Ready? Aye, sir. And wrap rags round your hands, so you don't want to be skinned. Now, work the shots onto the bearers with the tongs. Carefully, and roll them into the guns. A tumble water by each gun. Now, bring the shots over to your guns. Oh, there, there, steady. Steady there, steady. Silence there. Run the guns back well clear of the embrasures. Then in with your wet wads, you rammers. Two to a gun. It's not so easy, sir. The dons could manage it to judge by the practice they made against us yesterday. We can better them surely. Oh, aye, sir. Run up your guns. They run the point, it'll be puzzled. And how long will it be, do you think, before a hot shot burns through one of those wads and explodes a gun? That I don't know. I shouldn't be surprised, sir, if we found out during the course of today. Probably. And what do you think you're doing, Wilton? Bringing up fresh charges, sir.  Aye, aye, aye, sir. Swabber out. And we can't be too careful. You don't want any chance of live charges and red hot shot coming together on this platform, do you? Oh, no, sir. Ah, very well then. These cartridges are English, I'll wager, Mr. Bush. English? What makes you say that? Well, I know. West country's surge choked and stitched like that. It'll have got them out of English prizes. Well, now, we'll hope that'll teach those privateers to leave our ships alone. If we can cut off their supplies, the dons will be in a bad way against the blacks. Let's hope so, sir. That rammed those wads handsomely there. No powder in that bore, Simmons. All of you is discharged dead in the ship's books. Standing down the bay, Mr. Hornblower, if their intent are making a bolt for it, it means they're not feeling too secure. I'd have expected them to try to recapture the fort. They could land a force up the peninsula and come down to attack. I wonder why they don't try it. It'll be long range. Make sure of your aim. Yeah, Wultern. Oh. Take a ranging shot. Gun captains. Make sure of your aim. Make sure of your aim. Fire only when each gun bears. I like it. I like it, sir. Number one, sir. Fire. Gun crews. Fire only when you're sure. My telescope, Mr. Abbott. Sir. Thank you. Sting, I think. Yes, by God, I can see smoke. Fresh charges. And see that you swab out those guns properly. Damn it. She's getting away from us. Rain shortening, though. Gun captains. Get your coins in. She's swinging around, sir.  She's taken ground. A fire. And run ashore deliberately, I think. That's done it, then. The first one, anyway. Just blow now. Blow to places. Bella can't have had hands to spare to fight the fire when we hit him. Probably a shot through her deck and into the powder magazine. Poor devils. You don't sound too pleased about it. What does I think you know, Mr. Bush, sir? I have a weak stomach. Here comes the next vessel. Nearly in range. And by Jupiter, the other Spanish schooners are turning back to anchor. And bring up more shot, bearer men. Gun captains. Run up. Train. And fire. As you get the air. Fire is on. The Spanish had no stomach for more as renown, hove, incite, and a wind that was fortunately freshening. Bush had his prisoners sorted out and ordered a watch to be set. It was only next morning when we saw a boat put out from the battery across the bay that we could take stock of what we'd achieved. The boat came in under a white flag and off Samana Point, renown lay, waiting for the first puffs of sea breeze to bring her up the bay and into touch with her landing party. Bush would not let the Spanish envoy who arrived into the fort. He feared some ruse or an attempt by the enemy to gain intelligence over our actual strength. As I had a fair knowledge of Spanish, I was sent outside the ramparts to meet him with a small guard of our marines and orders to report back on the interview. Well, Mr. Ombloar? He's a colonel or tagger, Mr. Bush. His credentials are signed by the Captain General who is across the bay. What does he want? A first to know about the prisoners, the women of the garrison especially.  Yes, sir. I added that I would ask your permission to release the women to him. It would make matters easier here, sir. Also, I thought that if I appeared agreeable, he would speak more freely. Yes, yes, and? Don't you think he might take away the wounded as well, sir? It would free some of our hands and we can't give him proper treatment here. If we released to him all the prisoners, he would give us his promise that none of them would serve again while renown is in Spanish waters. Needs thinking about. Sounds fishy to me. No, he keep his word, sir. He's a Spanish gentleman. He is, is he? And we can't pack a hundred prisoners or more aboard renown, sir. I agree. They'd be an infernal nuisance. Is there anything else? He hinted at the possibility of arranging a capitulation, sir. To deuce? And what did he mean by that? Surrender, sir. Evacuation of all this end of the island by the dawn, sir. My God, I hope you didn't... No, of course not, sir. I tell him I couldn't bargain with him, but, uh, you could, Mr. Bush. No, Mr. Hombler, I could not. It's a matter for Mr. Buckland to deal with, if anyone... But if I might suggest something... Go on. It would take some time to make any arrangement about prisoners, Mr. Bush. There's the question of their parole, and I could argue about its wording. Yes. Then it would take more time to ferry the prisoners across the bay.  She can anchor down there like a cork in a bottle. Those schooners won't be able to get out, and Mr. Buckland can take over the negotiation should he wish to do so. Very well. You may negotiate for the return of the prisoners on parole, but nothing else, if you value your commission. I warn you, formally. I understand, sir. Suspension of hostilities during negotiations? I suppose so. And you'll send a boat to renown to make sure she doesn't open fire on a boat filled with spaniards crossing the bay. Colonel Ortega will make a boat available to us. It seems to me you're being mighty tender with these dons, Mr. Hombler. In fact, you are taking too much upon yourself. Sir. I'd be glad if you remember that I'm in command here. Yes, sir.  Have it your own way. Whom will you send to renown? Well, I could go myself, sir. I could tell Mr. Buckland everything necessary. Very well. You better go, I suppose. But mark my words, Mr. Hombler. You are to make it quite clear that I've not authorized negotiations. I take no responsibility for anything of the kind. Is that quite clear? Yes, sir. And kindly bring Mr. Buckland here as soon as possible. If I may say so, Mr. Buckland. I don't doubt that Colonel Ortega was sent by the Captain General to negotiate for the prisoners so that he might have a chance to put out a feeler regarding capitulation. But you cannot be sure of that, Mr. Bush. In his position, sir, would you mention a matter of such importance if not expressly authorized to do so? I would not. Then I suggest that the Captain General had capitulation in mind from the moment he knew we had taken the fort and renown good anchor in the bay in consequence. So, if he's prepared for such a negotiation, it must mean he's either a paltrune or in ready serious danger. You talk like a sea lawyer, Mr. Hombler. Sir, I meant no disrespect.  Quite. Now I'm sure you wish to tell me what's behind all this. The Spaniards have been holding this end of the island against the blacks for months now, sir. Pada, lead, flints, shoes, they're probably in need of all of them. That's true, sir. To judge from the condition of the prisoners we took. Thank you, Mr. Bush. And now renown has arrived and you've cut the Captain General off from the sea. He doesn't know how long we should be staying here. He doesn't know your order, sir. Never mind that. If we stay, sir, he'll have to surrender. He'd rather bargain with us, sir, where he has something to bargain with than wait and have to surrender without conditions to the blacks. That I can understand. Better bring in this Colonel Ortega fellow. You say he speaks English. He does, sir. Very well. Colonel Ortega, I believe. Sir, Captain Buckland. I am Lieutenant Buckland, at present commanding his Britannic Majesty's ship, Renown. Honoured Lieutenant Buckland. I understand you have terms for your Captain General's surrender in mind. That is so. He will surrender all to you intact. Military stores, the battery across the bay, everything. In return, he asks only for a free passage for the garrison. Men, ships, civilians, and passports for our ships while on passage to any Spanish possession. Cuba or Puerto Rico. And if I refuse? Then we will fight, senor. We will fight to the end, rather than submit to dishonour. Fine words, Colonel. If you compel us, they shall become deeds. What more can you do to us than you have already done? And there is another thing. You dare not stay longer in this island. There is the yellow fever, vomito negro, we call it. Yes, I have heard of it, Colonel. Our troops have lived with it all their lives. Many of them have had it already. But yours? There's something in that. Mr. Bush, will you kindly... My Captain General could ally himself with the rebel, senor. They do not look upon the English as their friends. He could bring an army against you. That is my last word, senor. Very well, Colonel. I will consider the matter. You may leave us. What do you think, Mr. Bush? He had some good arguments, sir. On the other hand, we might turn the thumb screws on him. How? Bring Renown up the bay. You saw how tricky the channel was yesterday. And we'd still be under the fire of the battery on that side. But we can run past it on this side. Yes, and nice fools, we'll look if we come in, find about a range, and we have to run out again under fire. It would only stiffen their resolve to go back on the terms that fellow offered. The second repulse. No, by God! Mr. Hornblower? It'd be risky to take Renown into the upper end of the bay. We might get at him from the peninsula here, sir. How, the devil? Now, mount a guard on the upper tip of the peninsula, and you'd have the far end of the bay under fire. No need for hot shot. We'd have all day to knock on the pieces, even if they shifted their anchorage. So we would, by Joe. Could you get a gun along there? We could use one from the ship. Not too heavy. A nine-pounder bow chaser. Send it round to where we landed yesterday with teakland cables. Big trees to attach the cables. Sway the gun up easily. After that, not more than half a mile uphill, but not too steep. Those nine-pounders weigh less than a ton. Yes. And then? We'd have those ships under fire, sir. And those ships are the dawn's only way of escape. Ortega was only bluffing when he spoke of allying with the blacks. If the rebels a chance, and they'll cut a third of every white man and woman in this island. And those ships would be our prizes, sir. It might be worth trying. Would like to say, sir, I think Mr. Hornblower deserves every credit. Of course, Mr. Bush. Then we'll start tomorrow morning, as soon as the hands have had breakfast. I'll leave the details to you to arrange, Mr. Hornblower. Bye, Joe, if it did work. In part three of Lieutenant Hornblower, you heard Nigel Antony in the title role and as the narrator, with Terence Skelton as William Bush. Mr. Bucklin was played by David Peart, Wellard, Mark Hudson, Mr. Midshipman Abbott, Keith Ladd, Walton the Gunner, Herbert Smith, Captain Whiting, Randall Hurley, and Colonel Ortego by Graham Tennant. The Hornblower story is directed in Manchester by Trevor Hill, assisted by Christopher Hayton Webb.


That was a tough one, wasn't it? Interval session at the track. What did we do? We did 12-400s with 30 seconds rest. That's the problem. 5-400 is fairly easy on his own. 30 second rest. Just make it a little bit more fruity. So yeah, we're lucky to live in a good place. We've got a nice track here. We've got a beautiful view on the mountains behind. There's a bit windy on the back end, which was lovely. Yeah, some of our interval session that we get ready for race cycle, running race that we've got to come soon. 20k? 20k. Oh yeah, don't know what else to scrub to that one again. And then we've got this cross-country race coming in February, something like that. And yeah, goodbye here. And now if we go home, play with the kids.


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Coming up on DTNS in Real makes a stab at another smart glasses form factor. You asked for a repairable phone, but are you gonna buy it? And the war between the Wall Street Journal and Facebook continues. This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, September 30th. We're all out of September 2021 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Marath. And from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. From Austin, Texas, I'm Justin Robert Young. And I'm Roger Chang, the show's producer. I can't remember who we were supposed to wake up, but wake them up. September has ended. We were just talking about AI and whether AI can be artisanal. That was one of our good day internet conversations. You can listen in by becoming a member Patreon.com slash DTNS. That's where you can join our top patrons like Jeff Wilkes, Paul Rees, and Dr. X17. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. Some iPhone users report that several accessibility-focused Siri commands that share details and can perform functions on things like phone calls, voicemails, and sending emails are no longer functional on iOS. It's not just iOS 15. It's across multiple versions. For example, asking Siri to play my voicemail messages now returns a, sorry, I can't do that response or something similar. A user on the Apple Vise forums, like Apple Visual forums, say that they were told by Apple support that Apple is aware of the issue. Apple Pay has a feature called Express Transit that lets you make a contactless payment without unlocking your device pretty slick. You just tap your phone at a metro station gate and get right through. Well, scientists at Birmingham and Surrey University found a way to use this feature to make an unauthorized payment from a locked phone linked to a Visa credit card, had to be Visa. An attacker would need equipment to mimic a transit ticket machine, so it's not something everybody can do, and then relay signals from the phone through that machine to an Android app to a contactless payment terminal. The signal is modified to trick the payment terminal into thinking the phone is unlocked and the payment is authorized. The mimics ticket machine would need to be near the targeted iPhone, so the most likely scenario would be using this on a stolen phone that you can't unlock. The attack has only been shown to work in the lab. Visa does not believe it's practical in the wild, and so therefore it doesn't sound like they're going to bother fixing it because it's confident its fraud detection system would spot the activity. However, Samsung Pay and MasterCard, even on Apple Pay, are not vulnerable to the attack. The USB Implementers Forum introduced new logos to be used on USB cables that indicate if they can charge with up to 240 watts of power, a feature recently added to the spec. The new logos are to be used if a cable or port supports that 240 charging or 40 gigabit per second transferred speeds or both. There's also a logo for 240 watt chargers. USB logos without the numbers are still used for cables that only support 20 gigabit per second transfer speeds or 60 watt charging. It's that easy. Intel announced its second gen Neurotrophic chip, Luigi2 and Lava, an open source framework for developing applications for it. Members of the Intel Neuromorphic Research Community, or INRC, can get two cloud-based servers running on Luigi2. Neuromorphic, not Neurotrophic. Neuromorphic computing mimics the human nervous system. Members of INRC have used Neuromorphic chips for advances in applications like speech recognition and autonomous navigation. An Accenture test found the previous version of Luigi was 1,000 times more energy efficient and 200 milliseconds faster at voice commands compared to a standard GPU. On Thursday, Honda announced plans to build its first electric vertical takeoff and landing aircraft the EVTOL, or EVTOL, built with a gas turbine hybrid unit and enough range to take passengers between cities, not just within a city. In a new robotic advance, Honda also showed off a proof-of-concept avatar of a robotic hand with fingers controlled remotely by a human in another location, which Honda says it'll be ready to show off in more detail by 2024. Honda also has a new partnership with Japan's JAXA space program to build a circulative renewable energy system on the lunar surface with oxygen and supplying living quarters with air for lunar colonists while the hydrogen refills their rockets. This is what the car companies are doing. Hyundai, Honda, Toyota, they're all trying to be robotics companies, AI companies. All right, let's talk about Fairphone. You ever heard of Fairphone? Fairphone makes easy to repair smartphones with sustainable materials. You can use a Phillips head screwdriver, that's all you need. No special screwdriver even and swap out modules for displays, batteries, back covers, USB-C ports, loudspeakers, earpieces, rear cameras, and selfie cameras. Fairphones always receive a perfect score from, I fix it, and Fairphone recycles one phone or an equal amount of e-waste for every device it sells. And it just announced a new one, the Fairphone 4. Now the knock on Fairphones have been that their specs aren't usually very impressive, but the Fairphone 4 not only has the usual modular design, but a 6.3 inch 1080p LCD, 6 or 8 gigs of RAM, and 128 or 256 gigs of storage, as well as a micro SD card slot, along with two rear cameras, one of which can record up to 4K at 30 frames per second. These specs aren't going to blow you away, but they're decent, they're mid-range now. Despite the removable rear cover, which is good for repairs, it's still managed to get an IP54 rating, making it splash-proof. It's the first waterproof of any kind on a Fairphone. That means they did have to lose the headphone jack though. That's going to be a ding. Got to have a wireless Bluetooth headsets to use it. Its major upgrade is a five, or I guess a USB-C, because it does have a USB-C port. Its major upgrade though is a five-year warranty and a promise of two major Android updates and software support until the end of 2025, and they're hoping they can extend that to 2027. Fairphone 4 ships October 25th, starting at €579 or £499 sterling. It's a hobby phone. If you're really into this, if you really care about these elements, then buy it, but it's likely because you're a very specialized market. Now, that market might be big enough for Fairphone to have a lot of success, and I very much wish them well, but I don't know if these kind of issues, which tend to bubble up to the surface during technology kind of conversations when we talk about how hard it is to repair certain kind of flagship phones, necessarily bubbles into a mainstream market. Well, I think Tom's point that this, you know, you're reading out the specs, it's not super impressive, but it's not a crappy phone either. I know Fairphone has been around for a while, and yes, the folks who love that modular design, who want to be able to swap out parts, whether you're just swapping them out or because there's something wrong with them. I mean, it is a pretty big group of folks and to have a phone that, sure, it's not going to be the flagship phone that you might pay a little bit more for, you're still not paying top dollar for it either. So it's cheap. This is like over $500. It's not cheap, but it's not for a $1,200 phone. It's upper mid range, upper mid range, not bargain, but also, you know, it's not above a thousand bucks. So, yeah, I don't know. I would be calling people on the carpet here, like, hey, you want that repairable phone? Here it is. Are you going to buy it? Except they didn't include a headphone jack. So I know every single one of them that isn't going to buy this would be like, well, I would have if it had a headphone jack. Of course, because, you know. Okay, moving on to some AR. Why don't we? Augmented Reality Company and Real announced a new project called Air Glasses, a more compact and cheaper version of its smart glasses. The company expects it'll be a fraction of the price of the previous version. Previous version was around $600. So, okay, whatever a fraction of that is, the Air Glasses connect to a phone for power. They don't have any cameras for sensing the world around them. So in that sense, they're like totally different than the Facebook, Facebook. What are they called, Tom? The Facebook. The Ray-Ban, the Ray-Ban. The Facebook Ray-Ban. How quickly we forget. Yes, the collab, the Facebook walk, the Facebook. Anyway, let's go back to the Air Glasses while we're thinking of this. You can control the Air Glasses with a smartphone app, so you can think of them as pretty much just a wearable display that are on your face. They have two micro OLED displays with a refresh rate of 90 Hertz, pixel density of 499 PPD, and a 46 degree field of view. And Real says they should be about like sitting three meters away from a 130 inch screen. So that's either gonna seem like you're not far enough away, or just right, maybe too close. The lenses can tilt at three angles to make the view a little bit more clear. And because they're focused on display alone, the Air Glasses are lighter than the previous Unreal Light Glasses, 77 grams, and look more like regular sunglasses because there's just less in there. Unreal Air Glasses work with iPhones, iPads, and most Android devices and are expected to begin shipping in December in Japan, China, and South Korea with Europe and the US to get them next year. Ray-Ban Stories. The Facebook Ray-Ban Stories. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And I forget stories. Not to be confused with Facebook stories. Anyway, this is another interesting take. What we're seeing as companies going, well, the big hold up is people don't want a big bulky thing on their face. So what can we pack into glasses that still look like glasses? Facebook Ray-Ban Stories did it by saying, we'll just put cameras and wireless, and that's it. Won't do anything else. It's not gonna be augmented reality. And Real is saying, we're gonna put lenses in there. We're gonna put the ability to see a display, but you're gonna have to plug it into your phone. No wireless. And this is really just, I'm on a plane, and I wanna lean back, or maybe a train, and have a display. Or I wanna have a huge display without having to have a big, huge heavy monitor or something like that. Maybe. I could see people wanting that, yeah. Yeah, I like this idea in theory, mostly because I want people to take more swings at smart glasses. I like the idea that the Ray-Bans were, wear the camera glasses. Let's see if people like it. I like that this is, we are the heads-up display. What I don't love is the fact that it does need to plug in. I think that there is a world now where, in looking, and I always keep going back to the Google Glass experience, because that I think was a very interesting example of what we liked and didn't like about a heads-up display. But the fact that you got phone alerts on your face could be very interesting. It probably is less intrusive than looking at your watch to do it, which makes you seem kind of a jerk. But if you have to plug it in, then that takes away some of the ubiquity. Yeah, it's hard to call something air glasses that have to be plugged into something. I know that folks plug their headphones into smart devices all the time, but being that the wireless option is pretty good these days, and you don't need that. It's a tough sell. That said, I like the idea of a heads-up display if I'm wearing glasses. I have heads-up display in my car. It doesn't give me a whole lot of information, but good stuff, like how fast I'm going, and if I'm getting into a school zone, and the time of day, and that sort of stuff. It's helpful. It's helpful to just kind of know that that's there, and you don't really see it unless you want to engage. I like that idea of a heads-up display. I don't think I really have the need to take a lot of photos with my glasses, and maybe that's just because not enough people do it that way yet, so I'm just not used to it, but the having little information on something that is just sort of there when I'm looking straight ahead, or even to the side, that I am used to, and that I do like. I like the idea of being able to watch video. Getting the equivalent of a 130-inch screen to watch Netflix when I'm in the back of a lift, or on an airplane, and sitting in an airport.  That depends on what that fraction is, right? Is it five-sixth of $600?  Put on the oculus. Hey, the president of the U.S. and two European Commission vice presidents met on Wednesday as part of the U.S.-EU Trade and Technology Council. The council was created in June to focus on security and trade, and by trade, it seems that they mean export controls for tech. The council also released a joint statement Wednesday saying it would deal with technology misuse and misinformation. Now, this council has set up 10 working groups. Some are pretty obvious, like technology standards, supply chain security, data governance, combating unlawful surveillance, and export controls. There are also working groups for connectivity in developing nations, screening foreign investors, and promoting digital tools for small business. And then there's one group, which will work on non-market economic policies and practices that distort trade, which you could probably colloquially spell as C-H-I-N-A. Meanwhile, China applied to join the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership, which was signed after the U.S. with Drew in 2018. Taiwan and the UK have also applied to join. I can't imagine this will be entirely bad or entirely good for the internet or technology in general, but it's certainly an indication that the battle lines are being drawn. It's not that we didn't know that, but here they are. They got their big marker out, and they said the U.S. and the EU are going to draw a line right around here. We're going to try to get developing countries on our side by helping them out, and we're going to try to combat China with this very long-winded named working group, and at least we're seeing countries cooperate on technology possible to see, which is certainly important for things like the supply chain right now. Yeah.  So the idea of having not only everybody be on the same page, but also maybe take a look to the future so we can think about situations like this before they arrive and maybe learn some lessons through this process is a very, very, very good thing. The question is exactly how effective it will be past that and whether or not it actually means anything to China. Obviously, they swing a very, very big stick when it comes to the fact that there is a lot of production over there, and they have a massive, massive market. Yeah. I don't know if you have to affect China's opinion to be effective though, right? You can put in place rules, and I think probably the biggest opportunities for this to have an effect is on security, for sure. Hey, folks, know a little more is coming back October 7th. If you haven't subscribed yet, now's the perfect time to get in on it. You can catch up on all the back episodes, and we will kick off the season October 7th with an interview with Stacey Higginbotham on Matter, the smart home interoperability platform. We also have episodes on RCS, lithium ion batteries, the trusted platform module. There's even an episode back there on USB4, if that story in the quick hits earlier confused you. Go get subscribed right now. Know a little more at knowalittlemore.com. Oh, who's ready for a little tech and media tussle? Yeah. And the Wall Street Journal. A bit at odds over the last week or so, because of a series of reports by the Journal about internal research at Facebook. So Facebook released by themselves two annotated PDFs of slide decks presenting its research on the effects of Instagram on teen health. That's what this entire situation has been about. The documents are called Hard Life Moments, Mental Health Deep Dive, and Mental Health Findings, as well as Teen Mental Health Deep Dive. Now, the Wall Street Journal published those plus four additional documents they say relied upon for their reporting on this subject. The additional documents that the Journal published are Teen Girl's Body Image and Social Comparison on Instagram and Exploratory Study in the US, Appearance-Based Social Media Comparison on Instagram, Social Comparison Topics, Celebrities like Count Selfies, and Teen and Young Adults on IG and FB. Wall Street Journal reporter Jeff Horowitz claims that Facebook published its two versions of the documents after the Journal notified it on the paper's plan to publish all six. Now, a lot's being made about how to interpret the findings, and really that's been the scandal here. But let's talk about what we think of what Facebook did here in releasing their own slides and what we think they should have done or should do going forward. Yeah, we talked about a couple of these stories when they were released by the Wall Street Journal last week. I didn't think the research itself was as damning as a lot of headlines seem to think. It seemed to say that there is a negative effect, especially on people who are already having a negative effect, and that's useful to know. But to me, it was more about the fact that this research was there and helpful to understanding how social media is affecting folks, and it wasn't released. I think what the Wall Street Journal did in releasing all six arguably is a good thing because it allows more people to see what's going on. It's a bad thing because the people who best would look at these are people who actually are well-versed in the topic and can contextualize it and understand and see, like, ah, this is statistically significant. This is understandable in light of other research that's been done out here. Just kind of putting them out on the Internet in general is going to lead to a lot of misinterpretation. But frankly, because Facebook isn't making this kind of research readily available outside of its walls, you kind of have to have something like what the Wall Street Journal did happen for us to get a perfect picture. And I think it would be in Facebook's best long-term interests to open up this research even at the risk of having some of those misunderstandings because instead of it becoming a viral hit on Facebook, because it's a big headline, you could just be releasing them into the academic community and having people discussing them there.  It's actually research that's being done to help make the world better.  It's well, at least Facebook has been doing this research. Facebook is not just completely blind to the fact that there might be negative results from somebody hanging out on Instagram, using it too much, being of a certain age, getting results for stuff that is particularly harmful based on other stuff that's going on in their life. It is good that Facebook, whether or not they're changing their products and their platforms because of the research, but at least conducting the research and getting it a little bit smarter about it, it does, yeah, it turns into something where it's like the Wall Street Journal is like, we're gonna publish this, so you better be ready to respond. And Facebook said, okay, well, we're gonna publish slightly different versions of at least two of these research studies that you obviously have gotten a hold of anyway. So then it becomes kind of a reactionary thing like, ah, Facebook had to respond, but I'm with you, Tom, if Facebook, they're in kind of a weird position because if the company was like, hey, we're gonna do quite a few studies that are very particularly focused on young people and possible negative harm that these sorts of platforms are doing to them, you really have to let the public know that in a well-thought-out way so that there isn't just this knee-jerk reaction of people saying, I mean, even internally, Facebook thinks it's harmful. Look at what they're doing. Thanks, when you hide it, I'm sorry, real quickly, it's when you hide it that people assume it's really bad.  And actually, these don't show as bad of a thing as you might expect. Nor does it show that they were hiding it, right? Like this may or may not be something that they ever intended to be for public consumption. This was for an internal dialogue that theoretically would be more effective than litigating this through the press. Facebook has no choice but to double down on their product, especially when we're talking about something that is as complicated as an effect on teens or teen girls specifically. You want to know what's harmful to being a teen or a teen girl? Being a teen! Like this is a rough time in life, and Facebook certainly being the mirror of its own cohort is going to be associated with that element of one person's path to adulthood. There is nothing here to me, either in this story or in the way that Facebook has responded to it, that is anything less than a moral panic argument by The Wall Street Journal. This is the same as saying that MTV was creating sociopaths, by the way that it depicted people in music videos, which compared to what music videos look like today is an exceedingly quaint and ridiculous argument. I'll only disagree in that I think the moral panic is being done by others reporting on The Wall Street Journal. If you read The Wall Street Journal articles, they're fairly balanced and they're not, I don't think, egregiously fanning the flames of panic, but still having that effect. I also think when I say Facebook is hiding it, I mean, Facebook is combating NYU researchers from using publicly available data. Facebook, while they have a system to share data with academics, academics complain that they restrict what data they can get and make it less than useful. That, when I say hiding it, I mean, they could be doing a lot more to help people study all this stuff rather than doing studies and then leaving them inside. Go publish them. I agree. I agree. I do think that they could do it. I can understand internally that they could. Why are we going to hand people knives so they can stab us? And I think you end up getting stabbed more when you don't cooperate, you know? Put the knives in the hands of people who want to, like, dice a cabbage with them instead of stab you in the back. Beat your cabbage knives into plush. Stick with cabbage. All right. Real quickly, back in 2009, Blue Stacks was founded to make software that lets you run Android apps on Windows and macOS. And now, Blue Stacks is moving into the cloud with the aim of playing Android games in the browser across iOS, Windows, macOS, Android and Linux. Not just the aim. You can do it today. Blue Stacks X is launched. It offers ad-supported free mobile game streaming. The ads are pre-rolls. They don't interrupt the gameplay. You don't have to pay anything, though. And the whole thing runs on Blue Stacks corporate sibling now.gg. That's a hybrid cloud platform running with AWS Graviton servers. So the whole thing is kind of also an advertisement for now.gg if you're a business looking for something like that. You can try out these games and see how that platform works. Blue Stacks X can also offload some computing graphics to the local machine, but you don't have to download anything. This is also different than the Android app compatibility. Microsoft is bringing to Windows 11. That integration uses Amazon's Android Store, whereas Blue Stacks works with Google Play apps so the developers don't have to do anything. Blue Stacks X also works with a Discord bot called Cloudy that can be used to share gameplay sessions. So you can connect all the players in a session to a Discord voice channel automatically when they begin playing. It launched in beta with 14 cloud games, including Raid Shadow Legends, Disney Sorcerers Arena, and Lord's Mobile Kingdom Wars. Try it out right now, x.bluestacks.com, if you like. You don't have to, but it's there. I think it's well. I'm surprised no one else has called a bot Cloudy before. Maybe they have. I was a little scared. Like, is that the only Cloudy you can get? But yeah, this is great. And I think an excellent example of a company that does one thing really well, which is this emulation of Android in another operation system, particularly Windows, although they do work on MacOS, starting a cloud service Amazon style that's out there. They also have an online game service, so they're leveraging that with x.bluestacks.com. So a great example of something that's been, you know, bubbling under since I was doing Buzz Out Loud back in the day and has succeeded without, you know, getting a lot of controversy or a lot of attention. So I think it's worth checking out. Another thing that succeeded, at least in one place, is something called the station. This is an automated landing space and payload control tower made by MatterNet and now fully functional at the EOC hospital group, medical facility in Lugano, Switzerland, down in the south. The station provides a safe place for a cargo drone to land, swap its battery out, and it's protected from the elements and anybody who might have interests in its medical cargo, because again, this is a hospital. The first packages will be temperature sensitive hard shell cases with vials of things like lab samples, medication, even blood inside that would normally be transferred over land but have a short shelf life. So going by drone can be advantageous. The station includes a small collection door, could be opened by an authorized party kind of like restricted areas of a hospital itself. The station's first big deployment will be an Abu Dhabi where MatterNet is working with SkyGo and the city's health department to roll out a network of 40 stations across the city. Tech crutch pointed out too that this is one of those rare cases where the prototype, like the concept art, is what it ended up looking like.  Yeah, it really does, it looks like some sort of steel art thing that you might see in the front of an office building of some kind. But yeah, it's neat. Up above the ground enough so that, yeah, it would be quite difficult for somebody to get in there and it sounds like they're trying to keep it as locked down as possible so that sensitive material can fly and land safely. Yeah. To all those people who are like, why are you just going to land blood samples on the lawn? People will steal them. Here's your answer. It's MatterNet. All right, let's check out the mailbag. Let's do it. Okay, so we got the iPhone 13. We covered it in depth a few weeks ago now and Ryan says, the ProRes Rock video capture on iPhone 13 is perfect for his work and he gives us an example. Ryan says, I run a small media entertainment business, do quite a bit of video recording in a small studio with my clients. I've been using a Canon XA10 for close to 10 years. I also have a Canon 7D DSLR and a Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 1080. The XA10 lets me record to a memory card, set it and forget it while I interview clients in front of a green screen. The Pocket Cinema shoots raw but is suffering from a slow and painful death. Because my space is small, post-production can get tricky with regards to camera focus and color correction against the chroma keyer, especially if my subject is moving around in their seat a lot. I was looking at a Pocket Cinema 4K for my studio space, but when Apple announced ProRes raw on the iPhone 13 Pro made me reconsider my decision. Then when my phone carrier offered me a sizable trade credit for my current iPhone to keep me paying them for another three years, made it a no-brainer for me. That's great. I love getting this in-the-field example of what it's good for. And this is a great example of a small business which we kind of talked about with Schleicher, a small business that needs what the phone can do without having to spend extra on a separate device. That's perfect. It is fascinating as the term prosumer has kind of gone out of favor that we are seeing exactly how much the low, middle, and high realms of stuff like video equipment which used to be very, very pricey and very stratified are now kind of collapsing. And then Corey Kay wanted to know, is it just me or did anyone else think about the ED209 from Robocop during Wednesday's story about the Amazon Astro? It follows you on Century Mode. It can't go downstairs. I will never be able to unsee this, says Corey. If you think about Robocop and any of our other stories or if you have questions or comments or any feedback at all and anything that we talk about on the show do send it our way because we love to know what you're thinking. Feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. 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