All right I want to switch then to evolutionary psychology now just just to be clear again not my field I'm not an expert don't know much about this but I know enough to ask the right kind of questions and what I want to do is ask some questions because I know a lot of you for examples of fans of Jordan Peterson and fans of other people out there who are who use evolutionary psychology all the time I see it on YouTube videos I see it on Facebook I see it on Twitter I see it everywhere everybody just assumes evolutionary psychology is true I watched the video of Steven Pinker debating this woman and I forget the woman's name but about the difference between men and women and again using kind of the evolutionary psychology what I take to be the evolutionary psychology methodology to do that and you know and I have a lot of questions so I'm mostly going to be asking questions I mostly want to suggest to you this idea that this is another one of those fields that is young new that we know very little about and when people come out and say definitive things oh men behave this way because they evolved in this way I don't know men tend to want to have many sexual partners because they're promiscuous because they generate lots of sperm and they need to distribute that sperm because what's important evolutionarily is having children right and and that drives men to have the inclination to have affairs and to sleep with many women right right I mean I've heard this this is not this is not unusual this is a common claim women on the other hand can only can only have you one baby at a time they are weaker therefore they need to latch on to the one man that impregnates them they need to keep him around so they are much more likely to be monogamous women also attracted to wealthy guys because this is all stuff that comes out of evolutionary psychology some of it's pop evolutionary psychology some of it's real evolutionary psychology whatever that means now what is evolutionary psychology now this is a definition this is from the science daily but they but I'm sure there are others evolutionary psychology is a theoretical approach to psychology that attempts so first of all it's in the field of psychology that attempts to explain useful mental and psychological traits useful mental and psychological traits such as memory perception or language as adaptations as the functional products of natural selection so the idea is natural selection has selected certain mental and psychological traits all right so I want to ask a simple question I don't expect a I don't expect an answer but these are the kind of questions I would ask do we understand in psychology in psychology that that's the field that does evolution in psychology do we have a good understanding in psychology on what are right what are traits capabilities and behaviors right what are they does psychology have a good understanding or perception is or do you think you would come to different conclusions about perception if you held different philosophical views within evolutionary psychology do the psychologists have good understanding of emotions and where they come from and the relationship between emotions and ideas and thoughts do they understand what thoughts are and you know the basis for thought do they understand the idea of rationality and what rationality is do they value reason do they believe in free will and what is the role of free will vis a vis whatever psychological traits we might have received through evolution right through through natural selection so these are the kind of questions I would ask and I don't think from everything I've read and from all the videos I've watched that there is what I see in in even in the best thinkers even in the talk call it the Jordan Peterson's of the world and and the Stephen Pinkers of the world and the woman he debated is almost no mention of free will no mention of human reason no mention of rationality no mention of what they mean by traits what is the border of trait do they think for example you know where does where does uh and now you can even go deeper what is psychology actually studying is psychology science yet how much knowledge do we have in psychology notice that the evolutionary psychologists often ignore cognitive psychology which from the little I understand is probably most interested in thinking and in ideas and in concepts and the impact that ideas and concepts have on emotions so you know so you know I don't know I don't know again this is not my field so I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pretend to have answers but I would just say beware beware of of these definitive answers that they come across men are different than women because here's the list now I am convinced unequivocally without any question that men are different than women and that there is a biological basis for them I'm convinced of that a biological basis and a psychological basis that men are different than women how in what ways in particular again above my pay grade but the very fact that men and women are biologically so different is going to make them different in other in the way they relate to reality the very fact the men or women uh have have uh you know different biological experiences men don't have a menstrual cycle I think a menstrual cycle has an impact on a woman now what the impact I don't know but it's an experience a man will never have you know the experience of thinking men and women have the same right the experience of uh I don't know having an ale into the physical experience of of having to walk of having to think of it all of those experiences are similar are the same between men and women and therefore I don't think there's any cognitive difference between men and women in that sense but there are differences and how they manifest themselves in emotion or in behavior or you know it's interesting it's interesting in values and values they seek is interesting the fact that the male penetrates the female is significant that's not irrelevant it can't be irrelevant psychologically the fact that for the most part men rape women women don't rape men women don't rape men that is significant so all of that plays into the differences between men and women and all of that should should be studied now there is a legitimate question and that is what traits and I don't even know exactly what traits are but what traits are genetic so I can tell you that my two sons were completely different from minute one in what way were they different um in how how aware they were of their surroundings how much sleep how much they slept um you know whether the eye movements um the level in which they engaged with the environment around them the amount of crying so there are all these things now do we understand those differences those are pretty simple so those are pretty simple and I don't think we have a full understanding on them so I look I'm not saying evolutionary psychology is determinism is deterministic necessarily although I think many evolutionary psychologists are determinists but even to ask the questions of what are traits what are inherited traits what are learned habits maybe traits of by definition inherited what are habits what what influence the traits have on our cognitive functioning what influences do our traits have on our emotions on our habits on you know our psychology on our capabilities and ultimately on our behavior I think that evolution psychology is way too dependent on statistics way too dependent on storytelling that is a making up story evolutionary stories that explain what they want to explain they've got a theory they've got a and then they go back and they find a story in evolution to explain it eh you know it's it's very very questionable as a science and and you know Einrann said that in her lifetime she said psychology was in its infancy it was just beginning as a science they were just starting to think about what were the relevant questions and I think to some extent that is true I think to some extent that is true and if that's true if psychology is still very early then evolutionary psychology is even earlier and evolutionary psychology won't be a fully fledged science until it has those psychological foundations built until we understand more of what we are talking about what are the core scientific questions we have to ask what is psychology so my suspicion is that much of what you hear in evolutionary psychology is just is is just not true it's it's it's statistics and correlations and and and correlate and I saw this with Stephen Pickers presentation correlations on a correlation is not causality and they try to attribute causality and they and they they come up with biological evolutionary stories to to make the causal attribution but look I know a little bit about evolution and I you know and I've studied some biology and I think most people let me rephrase it I think most intelligent people I think most intelligent educated people don't really understand biology sorry don't really understand evolution evolution is not trivial what natural selection is is not trivial so beware of becoming a amateur psychologist beware of becoming an amateur evolutionary psychologist because I think the professionals are on shaky ground I think the amateurs don't know what they're talking about and I see too many out there way too many amateur evolutionary psychologists so I'm not saying it's an illegitimate field I'm just saying it's young it's new there's a lot of questions to ask and without the right philosophical framework it's very difficult to ask the right questions and since they don't have the right philosophical framework they're not asking the right questions right what we need today what I called a new intellectual would be any man or woman who is willing to think meaning any man or woman who knows that man's life must be guided by reason by the intellect not by feelings wishes wins or mystic revelations any man or woman who values his life and who does not want to give in to today's cult of the spare cynicism and impotence and does not intend to give up the world to the dark ages and to the role of the collectivist broads


And welcome to Talk Story with John Wahee. I know I tell you this every time we have a show, and that is that we got another exciting guest for you today. But in reality, folks, we got our very special, special guest today. We have with us joining today Mr. Toshio Matsuda, and Mr. Matsuda is known and worldwide as the samurai lecturer. What he is is that he is an author and an economist, and he did a number of different things. Some of his personal background is even as interesting as the things he talks about. So we are going to have a very interesting time this afternoon talking about geopolitics and geo-economics, meaning the impact of international politics and international economics. So welcome, Matsuda-san, I am delighted to have you. But before we get into the substance of this, I wanted to say that you and Mrs. Matsuda Mariko, she is in fact your partner, and she is with you in all these businesses. Yes, she is my lovely wife, not only wife, but also she is my boss. So she is your boss, she does. The reason why I mentioned it, folks, is because Mariko and Matsuda-san are now the cover page. They are on the cover page of Luxury Magazine International, and the reason for doing that, what a wonderful dress she has, and I hope my wife doesn't see that, she wants something like that. But anyway, the reason why they are on the cover page is because Matsuda-san, you are giving a number of lectures in Europe and Tokyo, just tell us. Yes. Okay, this Luxury Magazine is published in Europe, especially Monaco and Paris and London, especially Namasko in Russia. So the magazine itself is in English, Russian, and French? Oh, English and Russian. English and Russian. And this happens because I did a summary lecture that was May 16th in Monaco at a famous yacht club, and lots of people came, and my lecture was so successful, and then London people invited me to come to make a lecture in London, and the Moscow people called me and said, Mr. Masuda, please come over to Moscow and make your summary lecture, oh, and Dubai. Oh, Dubai. Yeah, Dubai people also invited me to come to Dubai to make a lecture, so the magazine company focused on me. Well, we are so lucky to have you here today. I wanted to say, though, that you actually very early on, and people know this, that back in 2001, I think it was sometime at the end of the summer, I'm not exactly clear with the date, but I wanted to, and a bunch of people from Hawaii, ask you to give a lecture at Wai'a Lai Club to the business community in Hawaii, and at that time, what I remember most is that at that time, somebody asked you a question. You kept telling me this, by the way, privately, and I said, don't talk about this, and don't talk, and what we're going to talk about from folks is that Mr. Masuda was saying that within, by, before the 12th or the following month or something, before September. Yeah, you said that the United States would be in some kind of conflict. The world would turn over. You weren't sure what it was, but in the audience, this is what I remember. In the audience, somebody asked you, they said, Mr. Masuda, what kind of stock should I buy? And I remember you saying, I'm going to give you advice what not to buy, and in fact, what you should sell, and you said, sell airline stock, and then you predicted that the world would be, the United States would be in turmoil, and that was, and one month later, 9-11 occurred. That's right. Because I knew the code date was September 12, where they were supposed to guess for nine suspects who were suspected to have born, burned or bombed U.S. embassy in Kenya and Tanzania. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. 9 suspects. They had a code date September 12, and I knew they were innocent, so you cannot have that code date, so something must be happened before September 12. And that's why you predicted. That's right. But you see, but Mr. Masuda, you were already famous, and the reason why we even brought what you got invited to, to wildlife, to give that lecture, which by the way, there are still people thanking you for your tip to sell the airline stock. Long time ago. Before they did it, but because, actually you were well known in Japan for being able to give a sense or give a prediction as to when the yen was going to be devalued with the dollar. In fact, you had written a number of books about the economy of Japan and the world, if I remember correctly. As a matter of fact, I wrote over 30 books, that's about economy and politics, and most of them were best sellers, but the most important thing is I have been advising to almost 700 people in Japan, they are all investors, since 1997. And also I have a broadcasting, radio broadcasting. Yeah, that's right. You do a radio show every day. Every day. Every day on the. Monday to Friday. Yes. And no matter where in the world you are. That's right. Since 1997, up to today, so my radio program in Japan is the longest history in Japan history. Okay. And that's why you're known as the samurai lecturer, right? You can see this. Yeah. My lecture is called Samurai, I am a descendant of 47 samurai or Ronins. Yeah, it's a very famous story in Japan, and what it is, it's a story about Japanese culture and Japanese sense of loyalty and all the things that make a samurai. Yeah. And you are actually a descendant of one of the 47. Yeah, 47 Ronins or samurai. And that story, if I talk about that story, it's going to take a long time, so I'm going to miss. But the thing is 47 Ronins made some kind of revenge against the corrupted high-rank officers. Right. Worked in the Edo central government. And the idea, again, is that is a story that the young people thought about in Japan, about what constitutes, I guess you would say the culture, but also the samurai spirit. Yeah. So, okay, we got a chance for people to get to know you a little bit better. I'm going to ask, I'm going to throw you a curve right now. I'm going to ask you a tough question. And that is because you're an economist and because you know something about the international impact of different government decisions. What do you think, well, the Fed in the United States recently lured the interest rate. Right. They gave a rate cut. Yeah. I think it was in July, right? The end of July. Yeah. So, what do you think of that? I mean, what impact will that have for the rest of us and for the world? That was the most important things in the world economy. Lots of almost 100% of the analysts predicted for the rate cuts in coming July FOMC sessions. Right. And as everybody's every analyst predicted, the Fed decided to cut the rates. Now, the president was insisting that they cut the rate. Was he just tagging along with the rest of the other experts? Mr. President, Mr. Trump repeatedly asked the chairman of the Fed, Mr. Power. To cut the rates instead of raising the interest rate, but Mr. Power ignored the request of the Mr. President and raised the interest rate four times in 2018.  But that's why he explored how to fire Mr. Power. Which would have been a very difficult thing. So anyway, Mr. Power lowered the rate. And then Mr. Power said at the end of last year, 2018, I'm going to raise the rate maybe two, three times for our coming year, which means this year. So Trump was completely got mad, fire him out, fire him out. And then FOMC decision making committee was open, January, no raising the rates and March, no raising rates. And now July. He cut the rate. Cut the rate. Now what? But the real question is, why did the Dow crash after the rate cut? Okay, normally, normally, when the Fed cuts the rates, stock market should go up. Right. See, that's a common sense because using money and using policy which is good for the stock market. So, as everybody, every analyst predicts, the Fed cuts the rates and only one day, maybe 30, 40 minutes, the stock market goes up, went up, and then stop. And next day, next day, August 2nd, Mr. Trump, President of the United States, announced the additional tariffs against the rest of the imports from China, which is worth about 300 billion US dollars. And he said he's going to start imports on the imports, starting from September 1st. So market was so shocked. So in other words, you got what was supposed to have been a boost to the market, and then the next day you got a... Yeah. Trump, because of Trump's announcement of the tariffs against the imports from China, the stock market crashed down. But there is the truth behind this Trump's actions and Mr. Power's actions. Number one, Mr. Power should not cut the rate if he follows or if he respects the fundamentals of the United States. Economic fundamentals is so good. For example, most important thing for the GDP, growth of the economy in the United States is the spending. And the consumer, public spending. Well, I tell you what, we're going to take a short break right now. But when we come back, I want you to continue that thought and conversation and also tell us a little bit about what you think the world economy will look like as a result of these actions and others. If you know the truth of the Fed, you'll understand what's going to happen. Let's come back. We're going to be back shortly in a minute and we're going to talk about, as Mr. Masuda, the summer eye lecturer, tells us about the truth of the Federal Reserve system. Aloha. I'm Mellie James, host of Let's Manna Up, Tuesdays every other Tuesday from 11 to 11.30. This show is meant to dive into stories of local product entrepreneurs and how they're growing their companies from right here in Hawaii. I'm so thrilled to have our show kicked off. And so please join us on Tuesdays at 11 o'clock as we talk to local entrepreneurs and hear their stories. Aloha. I'm Keisha King, host of At the Crossroads, where we have conversations that are real and relevant. We have spoken with community leaders from right here locally in Hawaii and all around the world. Won't you join us on thinktechhawaii.com or on YouTube on the Think Tech Hawaii channel. Our conversations are real, relevant, and lots of fun. I'll see you at the Crossroads. Aloha. Welcome back to Talk Story with John Waihei and our guest, the samurai lecturer, Mr. Toshio Masuda from Japan. And by the way, folks, if you got a question and you want to join this conversation, please call us at<PHONE_NUMBER>. We are always available to answer your questions. So, Mr. Masuda, you were just about ready to tell us why the set of circumstances that occurred recently with the Federal Reserve actually resulted in a drop in the market instead of an expansion. And that had to do with which was what you were pointing out just before the break. That had to do with the Federal Reserve Chairman, I guess, in ignoring American economic fundamentals. That's right. The American fundamental, economic fundamentals is still now or the time of the FOMC. Fundamental was so good. For example, most important fundamental is the spending, the public spending. The beginning of the year was not so good, 1.1 percent. But coming near to the FOMC, in other words, decision-making committee, it's getting better and better and better. And it went up to 1.1 to 4.3 percent. Wow. 4.3. So, the spending is consumer spending went up so high. And another thing, an important thing is the hourly earnings wages. That also jumped up to 3.2 percent. So, when that happens, the logical thing is to let the economy adjust itself. Yeah. It was very good. And another important thing is, as you know, the employment. And the employment rate is 3.7, the lowest in U.S. histories. So, all the fundamentals are very, very good. So, when fundamentals, economic fundamentals are so good, it should raise the rates. So, the Chairman should have done what he was saying he would do, not what the President was telling him to do. Right. So, if the Fed follows the fundamentals, the economic fundamentals, it should have raised the interest rate. But the fact is they decided to lower the interest rate, cut the rates. And then right after that, the President? So, when such kind of a thing, unreasonable things happen, there will be always something, politics involved.  But there are people that have suggested that this whole relationship with China and the President Trump is actually, there's more to it than the people might see. What do you think all of this is leading? Yeah. So, before talking about China, as you told me, right after the Fed cut, the cut rate, you know, the share supposed to go up, but it fell down. Because Mr. Trump announced the more tariff, additional tariff against the imports from China, as I said, you know, 300 billion worth of the imports, that is the reason why market crashed. But there is another fact of this reason, because the Fed chairman, Mr. Powell, Mr. Powell, cut the rate, you know, he was not supposed to cut the rate, because look at the fundamentals, there is, you know, economic environment is very good, and the U.S. economy is going so good, so Fed was not supposed to cut the rate, but he did. And then right after Fed decided to cut the rates in analysts, including me, analysts, wanted to argue if Fed decision was right or wrong. So, there was a discussion, arguments happened, and then Trump, all of a sudden Trump announced, put the tariff against the Chinese import, so all of a sudden stock market goes down, and then because of the announcement, because of the tariff against the Chinese imports, we are talking about recessions, future recessions, and Powell said, even though U.S. economy is so good, fundamental so good, but there is the fear of recession in future, that was his reason why he cuts the rate, but at that moment there was no single sign of a recession at all, zero. So, it had to do with the tariff cut? So, Trump covered it up, see, this is a real political reason, and what's happened is, because of the rate cuts, the share price was supposed to go up, but there was a lot of argument, maybe Fed did wrong things, because look. Well, you know, one thing about China is China, if we're, you know, switching to that subject, China holds a lot of U.S. bond, and what is the, what is your feeling about the relationship between Chinese, the value of Chinese U.N. and the dollar, I mean, isn't that part of all this scenario as well? Recently, as you know, Mr. Trump, I know it by the way, and I don't know if the audience knows, and maybe I'm just spilling something I shouldn't, but I know that you actually advised the Chinese government from time to time. Yeah, I met chairman of the currency committee of Bank of China, February 17th, and I gave them one very, several advice, but one of the most important advice I gave to him, and cover up what Mr. Trump was challenged against you, in other words, China, against China. So he understood, but I don't know if he followed me or I don't know, but if he followed me, if he had followed me, Mr. Trump could not have announced that China is currency manipulators. Recently, in our recognition, you know, Trump declared that China is currency manipulators, but I suggested them to keep it one to seven, in other words, one US dollar to seven U.N., all right? Didn't China just recently do something like that? Yeah, they came back and they now keep one to seven, but it's too late.  We are going to get it close, but I wanted to ask you one, so what is your predictions for the economy, the world economy? OK, world economy, I don't have enough time, but I'm going to give you a conclusion. OK, yeah, that's what I mean. World economy is going to be bubbled up, bubbled up. OK. Everybody talking about recession and lots of negative things, there is no negative matters. The stock market anyway from now on goes up, and developing nations, countries, economies grew up because Fed started to cut the rate. That is a very, very good news to developing nations, because they had to raise the interest rate, because Fed raised the interest rate, and all the money is called capital flight, all the money goes out from developing countries, and so they had to protect their currency. They had to raise the interest rate, that's bad for the economy, but now opposite, so they started to cut the rate and release more money, so the developing countries' economies goes up, and the United States, the United States' economies, as I told you, fundamental, too good, and while you are too good, you are, you know, cutting the rates, so good is going to be too good. OK, you know, we've got a couple more minutes, and I know you never shy away from controversy, so let me ask you a question. I remember back in 2016, at one point in time, you said the United States doesn't need an election. This was before the election, you don't need the election, Trump is going to get elected anyway. I didn't think so. I obviously was on the opposite side, but why did you think so? Oh, it's very easy. In order to win any election, not only presidency or congressman, whatever, in order to win election, you have to have three things. One, money, second, brain, third, stock price, share price, all right? Money, Sheridan Anderson, the richest guy in the world, supported Trump, brain, Kissinger supported Trump, and stock market goes up, so he won. Well, you know, that makes a lot of sense, and as I said, you know, you and I didn't agree on that election, but I want to thank you for being here today and for being willing to answer these questions, and folks, by the way, Mr. Masuda's lectures are on, well, they're in Japanese mostly, but you speak, you do it in English as well. Yeah, I'm very bad English, but you understand what I mean. Well, we want to thank everyone for joining us today, and we definitely want to thank you, Mr. Masuda, the samurai lecturer, for being willing to spend time with us and letting us know a little bit about what's going to happen with the world economy, and according to him, things may be getting better in the future economically.


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For those of you who don't know me, I'm Dominique Jopin, the president of IMD, and I'm really happy to see a full house today for our speaker today, SADGO. Thank you very much for being with us today.  I would like to thank all the people who have been here, because today it's a bit unusual. I understand we have some MBAs, some participants from the program for executive development, the numbers of alumni that I want to thank also, staff of course. So we have a full house which is a bit unusual, but great news. It means that there's a lot of interest in what you're going to talk about. So this morning we met about an hour ago, and I must say that this morning I was wondering what I'm going to talk about with yoga. And so I went to this meeting a little bit anxious with kind of conversation about how we're going to have, but I must say that we had a long discussion about what was planned. And I was extremely happy to see that we are sharing a lot of very common elements regarding what is leadership, what are the fundamentals of business education. And we had such a great discussion that I think we are going to start doing things together. So that was a very productive meeting for me and also I guess for SADGO. So we went to the MBA, I'm going to leave the floor to the syndrome who is going to give us a little bit of background on SADGO. So as I was preparing to welcome our guests today, I reminded myself to be as short as possible so you all can enjoy this unique event and talk. But to introduce SADGO, Yagi Vazudev in a short manner is not so simple. As his work and impact spread to so many areas of society and life. Let me try and give you some highlights. Described as a yogic, mystic, and humanitarian, SADGO is the founder of the Isha Foundation, an organization that taps the unsigned science of yoga to deliver programs that create physical, mental, and emotional wellbeing. Programs that have today been attended by five million people around the world. To give you an idea of the management challenge, the organization is operated by a network of two million volunteers worldwide. SADGO is also a social entrepreneur who has pioneered mobile health clinics and world Olympic Games in South India, opened various networks of schools, and even won a Guinness Book World Record in the number of trees planted in one day. More than 800,000. Is that the origin of a massive popular movement in South India where it now gives programs that are attended by 30,000 people at a time in cities like Bangalore, Cochin, or Chennai. He has been named one of the top 50 Indians by India Today magazine. And if that weren't enough, SADGO also writes poems and is ready to challenge you at a game of golf in between his international travels. SADGO is not our typical guest on the IND campus. However, he has visited Switzerland many times before. He has been a regular guest at the annual meeting of the World Economic Forum in Davos. He also has given a TED talk, spoke at the United Nations, the Indian Economic Summit, the Thai Back Forum, and many other conferences. His interviews are featured in the New York Times, BBC, Bloomberg, CNN, and he also runs a column, The Afterton Post. Maybe it is so difficult to cover the many heads that SADGO is worth because he is, as he says himself, in the one and only business there is, the business of human well-being. And God knows how vast a topic that is. Really, when we say at IND that we run the business of education, management, entrepreneurship, and leadership, we too are fundamentally in the business of human well-being. This is why we feel extremely lucky today to welcome someone who lives and works at the cutting edge of a common discipline. SADGO, you are perfect examples of our own values and it is our privilege and pleasure to welcome you on campus today. So the first question would naturally be, what is that prayer about? It's not a prayer, it's an invocation. An invocation means there is a whole technology as to how to organize your system to do a particular action. As human beings, we do so many things in our lives. You want to run a race, your body, your brain, your energy needs to be in a certain way. Your friend, it needs to be in another way. You want to do something else which needs your intellect on, it needs to be in another way. Like this, for different types of activities that we perform in our life, we need to have our system in a certain way. Lot of people are managing to make it happen naturally or the situation will slowly set them in. People will enter the situation and prepare gradually, the situation will model their mind, their energies and everything to function well there. But there is a way that you can consciously create an inner situation where you crafted situation within yourself so that you're organized in every way.  There is a whole science and technology as to how to go about this inner organization within a human being. When we say a leader or when we say ambition, ambition is just an exaggeration of the existing. When we say vision, as the word suggests, it is about a new possibility, something which is not yet. Ambition is about wanting to take as much as we can take. Vision is about making everything else. One is an aggressive way of taking it and it is an embrace. It is like the distinction between love and rape that seem to the same for external worse, but it's a world of difference making the world ill too willingly and trying to take a piece of the world at two different dimensions of life. As human beings, like never before we are empowered. Individual human beings, we have become so powerful because of technological advancement. What ten thousand men could do, thousand years ago, today one man can do. When we are so hugely empowered, it's extremely important that the way we exist here is in a more inclusive way. All this philosophy is it possible for a businessman? It is very much possible and especially not possible. It is very much needed for the businessman because business is about expansion. Does expansion happen because of inclusiveness or does expansion happen because you forcefully take something? If you forcefully take something, you will never expand to the full capacity. Only if you learn how to make the world ill to what you want it to be, only then you can take it all. Ambition is about more, vision is about all. When there's a leadership, a leader is somebody who is trying to create a situation and people are looking up to him believing that he's going to make it happen. So that means he must be in some position within himself that he is able to see things better than the people around him. Business leadership or managing large situations. If you want to manage one thousand people, essentially you are managing one thousand minds. If you want to manage one thousand minds, if you are not even able to manage your own mind, it is going to be accidental management.  We are sending a completely wrong message to the world. If you succeed, you will suffer. This is the message that's going on in the world. It happened in sixties in America because all the successful people are so miserable, yet did not see that success is worthwhile. They thought just sitting on a straight corner and smoking pot is much better. At least we are happy. So this is a very wrong message that success is a bad thing, is a horrible message for humanity and the future generations to come. Right now this message is going out because you will see successful people have the most miserable faces on the planet. Success should be a sweet thing, but success has become a suffering. Simply because we are managing to do outside things without doing anything about ourselves. If the work that you are doing is important, the first thing that you need to do is work upon yourself. What does working upon yourself mean? Say as you sit here, each human being is his own. Simply because of the accumulation of experiences that have happened in different people and how all this is assimilated within each person, each human being is his own and that's the beauty of human beings. You can't find a carbon copy anywhere. Everybody is unique. This uniqueness will be a wonderful thing if it functions cohesively. The same uniqueness, if it does not function cohesively, this uniqueness has to be called your really unique means that means you are a freak. Only if this uniqueness functions cohesively, this uniqueness can be celebrated and enjoyed and the world can benefit from this and the individual can benefit from this. Our idea of success has become like this right now, that we are sitting, you know there's a proverbial story in India about a man sitting on a tree branch and cutting it but sitting on the wrong end of it. If he succeeds, he will fail. Right now we have brought the world to such a situation that if we succeed, we will fail. In 2008, when I was at the World Economic Forum, the recession was just beginning and I saw all these 2000 and old people who are hugely successful people carrying very long faces, the recession is coming, the recession is coming. So they asked me to handle a session called Resession and Depression. I said recession is bad enough, you don't know how to get depressed in top of it. And the way we have created this whole situation is such, if we fail, we will be depressed. If we succeed, we will be damned. That's how we have created the situation. If all the several billion people on this planet use modern technology and get super busy, I think the planet just has ten, fifteen years left. Fortunately, fifty percent of people are lazy. Now it's not human intelligence which is saving the planet. It is not human love or compassion saving the planet. It is human lethargy which is saving the planet. That's a shame, isn't it? Simply because our ideas of success, our ideas of well-being itself has not been consciously worked at. It's just like we have just grown like wilderness. Now today, leadership means that we are able to re-engineer our very idea of success, well-being in the world. If we don't do this now, the success will be a bad thing. All the younger generations are becoming activists who are against any kind of successful activity on the planet. I was, I happened to be in a conference in London, a major conference, almost three thousand people participating, all kinds of people and this is about being the change. And here all kinds of things were going on and I was listening with great apprehension for what things that were being said. One man has come from India, he's brought ten tribals from India carrying one-man bag of tea. He said, see, I have brought the producer himself to UK and they are going to sell their tea bags right here and they're going to take their money. Nobody in between, no corporations, nothing, no cash, direct. I said that when my time to speak came, I said it's okay. I don't mind buying a tribal tea, but I fly Lufthansa. I don't want to fly a tribal airline where two out of the four engines are working. The idea of creating corporations and businesses was to make our life more efficient, not monstrous. It will become monstrous if we function out of individual ambition rather than a larger vision. Somehow get there, this is the way of the ambition. Somehow get there, we'll work only short term.   I seek your permission because it is probably just post lunch for many of you and the moment I say once upon a time, a lot of people think it's bedtime. It's not.  The bull eating the grass, the pheasant picking ticks off the bull partnership business. There was a huge tree at the edge of the field. The pheasant nostalgically looked at the tree and said, oh, alas, there was a time I could fly to the top most branch of the tree, but now I don't have enough strength in my wing even to fly to the first branch of the tree. The bull very nonchalantly said, that's no issue.  Within a fortnight, you will reach the top of the tree. The pheasant said, come on, what kind of nonsense is that? The bull said, really try and see the whole humanities on it. The pheasant hesitantly started picking at the dung and low on the very first day it reached the first branch of the tree. Within a fortnight, it did reach the topmost branch of the tree. It sat on the topmost branch of the tree, beginning to enjoy the scenery.   If an external observer looks at our world, a human activity over a span of a few hundred years and looks at what we have done with ourselves, this will be our story. We just somehow made it and then collapsed. It is no more about somehow making it. We are right now allowing social and other environments to shape human consciousness. No, human consciousness should shape our business environment, the social environment and the voice environment. Instead of allowing the human consciousness to do the other, right now we are allowing the circumstances to change the human consciousness. There is sense of being human, ease. Every other animal adapts to its situation. We can create our situations. This is the fundamental of being human. Otherwise we are no different from any other creature on this planet. Everybody else is capable of adapting. We are capable of crafting the situations that we want. Now leadership means just this, that we have a vision to craft the situation where everybody can fit in and everybody can prosper and our ideas of prosperity has to change because right now if we have to provide what an average American citizen has to seven billion people, the living earth statistics says that we need four and a half planets. We just have one and there's another one, eight million light years away. If you're up for the travel, there's just one more. Another two and a half we need to find somewhere. So our success itself is working against us. This is not a good thing. If we do well, we will do badly. This is not a good way to craft our situations because our idea of doing well is just being little better than yesterday. Just being little better than yesterday is not doing well. This happened in nineteen hundred and ten. There was a man in India. His name was Topiwala. Topiwala means a hat seller. You have this culture here also that somebody's second name happens to be his profession, carpenter, goldsmith, blacksmith, whatever. Like that he's a hat seller. He's a Topiwala. He was going from village to village in topical heat selling hats. One afternoon he's tired, sat under a tree, opened his meager lunch, ate and closed off. When he opened his eyes, he looked, all the hats were gone. He looked all over the place, no hats, they're just gone, disappeared. If you do everything that you can do and it doesn't work, what do you do? Usually look up in prayer. So he looked up.  He screamed at them. They screamed back at him. He abused them. They abused in their own language. He picked up whatever he could and tweeted them. They picked up whatever they could and threw it back at him. Not knowing what to do. Frustrated, he took his hat and flung it on the ground. All the monkeys took their hats and flung it on the ground. He picked up his hats and went about his business. 2012, 23rd of September, another Topiwala going from village to village selling hats. He came in the afternoon, sat under the tree, opened his allowable at lunch, 21st century. Had his lunch, promptly fell asleep. When he opened his eyes, hats were gone. He didn't look here and there, he looked straight up. The monkeys were sitting with hats on. He got up and jived. They all jived. He made funny faces. They made funny faces. He had all the fun he wanted to have. When he was done, he took his hat and flung it on the ground.  So, just one step ahead of his today is not leadership. Leadership has to craft. Today we have come to a place where the economic leadership has moved into a certain position in the sense about 300 years ago, largely religious leadership was controlling the world. From mindlessness of religious leadership, we moved into the tyranny of the military leadership. From the tyranny of the military leadership, we moved into the confusion of democratic leadership and confusion and incompetence of democratic leadership in many ways because hundred people are trying to run the place in which 542 people trying to run the nation. By the time you make these 542 people understand what is needed and what should be done tomorrow morning, it will take five years. And they are not there by then. So today we are moving into a place where in the next 10-15 years time the economic leadership will be the most important leadership in the world. We are definitely going there. The good thing about the business leader is he has no qualms about anything. If there is a good deal, he will make a deal with the devil. He has no prejudices about anybody.  He has no issues. He will make a deal with the devil if the deal is good. So the economic leadership is in many ways, in the very nature of things, it is very flexible leadership. If we train this leadership, if we bring about now an institution like this and many others, if we bring about the necessary shift from economic leaders operating out of narrow personal ambitions to a larger vision, that will be the greatest thing for the future generations of the world, where a clear message that success is the sweetest thing in your life, success is not a miserable thing. This message has to go. If this message has to go, economic leaders need to do something about themselves. They are doing a lot about many things. They need to do something about themselves. When I say doing something about yourself, why is it important? Do you see me? Are we in talking terms or is the ratio? Are we in talking terms? Do you see me? Yes. Use your hands and point out where I am. Ah, you got me wrong. You know I am a mystic from India. This light is falling upon me, reflecting, inverted image, going through our lenses, inverted image in the retina. Don't you know the whole story? Where do you see me right now? Within yourself, isn't it? Why do you hear me right now? Within yourself. Where have you seen the whole world? Within yourself. Everything that you have ever known and experienced is only happening within you. Right now, if somebody next to you touches you, you think you are feeling their hand, but that is not the reality. The reality is you are experiencing the sensations within your own hand. You cannot feel the other hand. You are completely incapable of experiencing anything of the outside. The way it is projected within you, that is the only way you will experience it. That is why what is light for you is darkness for some other creature.  You have owls in Switzerland? If you and I will sit together in certain argument as to which is light and darkness, where will you go? Endless argument, isn't it? Who is right? You or the owl? You or the owl? Who is right as to which is light and which is darkness? Huh? Both? If you are saying both, either you are in the diplomatic corps or you have a successful marriage. These are two areas where you should learn to say both, both, both. Now I am asking you, which is light? What you see is light or what the owl sees is light? Which is the real light? You don't know. The thing is your sense organs have opened up as it is necessary for your survival. It is opened up as it is necessary for his survival. You really don't know what is what. You only know the world, the way it is projected within you. So working upon the inward nature of who you are is the most essential thing. If you are in any position of responsibility and power, it's extremely important you do something about this. Otherwise it will give you completely wrong images which look right. I wanted to look back on the history of this world. How many horrible things human beings have done to each other, believing they were doing the right thing? Yes or no? At that time when they did those horrible things, they really believed they were doing the right thing. They did not think they were doing the wrong thing. This happens because we have done nothing about the interiority. When I say interiority, what do you have for breakfast? What do you have for breakfast? Egg. Egg. Chicken. So he had an egg for breakfast. But over the morning, this egg has transformed itself into a human being. Isn't it? It goes into you and it's becoming human body. Isn't it so? Yes.  Isn't it so?  He can make a chicken egg into human being over the morning. If you ask Charles Darwin, this would take millions of years. He can do it over the morning and every one of you can do it over the morning. So here, there is an intelligence here. There is a competence here which is capable of transforming a piece of bread or a egg or a banana or whatever into a human body. When I say human body, I'm not talking about you or me like this. This is the most sophisticated machine on the planet. Yes or no? It's the highest level of technology. Isn't it so? Human body. Every other gadget that you see on the planet has come out of this. This is the gadget. This is the gadget. Yes. You're too involved in the iPhone. You never look at the eye. This super gadget, with what kind of raw material are you manufacturing? With a chicken egg? With a banana? With a piece of bread? So there is an intelligence here. There is a competence here which is of that level. If only if you found access to this intelligence. Even if a drop of this intelligence entered your daily life, you would live magically. People around you will think you're superhuman. There is no such thing as superhuman. People talk about being superhuman simply because they have not realized that being human is super. Being human is super because he can make a egg into your human being. Chicken egg. Is it not super? Is it superhuman or super? It's just super, isn't it? That you can make a chicken egg into your human being over the morning. If your digestion is good in three hours, otherwise four hours. If you have a weak stomach, four hours. Otherwise three hours. Fantastic, isn't it? Does this intelligence exist in everybody? We have mistaken that intelligence means thought now. The intelligence in the body is so phenomenal. That which is the very source of making this body happen is right now functioning within you and there is a way to find access to this. This is what we are offering as inner engineering process and this inner dimension is needed the moment you are taking a position of leadership in the world in whatever capacity.  Once you have such a privilege in the world, I think leaders have this business that they have to do something about themselves that the way they think, the way they enact, the way they act is not destroying the world in so many different ways. Maybe good intentions. Good intentions alone will not produce results. It is the right kind of action with the right kind of consciousness that produces the necessary results. We are going with ambition right now. We think that's our only driving force. There's a beautiful story in Indian lore.  So it puts its hand inside. It's a very narrow necked bottle or a jar puts inside a handful of nuts. Want to take it out, it won't come, it's stuck. It has to let go some, but it's ambitious. It cannot let go even one nut. Pulse and pulse it doesn't come. Then another wise monkey comes. Some monkeys are wise, you know. Another wise monkey comes and says this is not the way you live it. And together they overturn the jar and all the nuts are out. Now we have to move from more to all. If you journey from more to all, that means you have traveled from ambition to vision. If you have questions, any kind of questions. My English is not so good, but as I heard you, if I understood you good, the change can only happen by individual action. There is no social movement, political movement with collective action. Your thought is only a thought of individual one or not. See, I want you to look at this properly. There is no such thing as society. There is you, me and that person and that person and that person. Together we give it a name called society. But there is no such thing in existence. It's only in our perception, isn't it?  You think there is a society, there is no such thing. There are ten individuals.  No society is not wonderful. There are ten individuals who are doing wonderful things. If a million individuals do really wonderful things, then you say this is a fabulous society. There is society is not functioning wonderfully. Individual people are doing wonderful things. That is why society gets the benefit, isn't it? But actually there is no society. It is just a word. It doesn't exist. It's individuals. If you want to transform a society, you have to transform the individuals. How else? You can make one mass teaching. Even if you make a mass teaching, still to what extent each individual takes it, that is the extent you find the result, isn't it? Now as a humanity, when there is no society, is there a humanity? There isn't. There are only human beings. But as human beings on this planet, we are interested with a certain responsibility right now as a generation of people. Why I am saying this is, for the first time, for the very first time in the history of humanity, we have come to a place where we have the necessary capability, resource and technology to address every human problem on the planet. Nourishment, health, education, whatever, whatever, name it. For everything, we have resource, we have capability and technology. The only thing that is missing is individual human beings who will stand up and make it happen. Yes or no? Never before this was possible. Twenty-five years ago, even if you dreamt of it, we were not capable. But now we are capable. If you are not capable of doing something, that is fine. If we are capable of doing something and if we do not do it, if we do not do what we cannot do, there is no issue. But if we do not do what we can do, we are a disastrous generation, isn't it? It's my wish and my blessing that we should not become a disastrous generation. We should be able to turn it around because everything else is on the plate. Only the man is missing, isn't it? Do you see everything else is on the plate? Only the man is missing. Earlier it was not like that. There was no resource, there was no technology, there was no capability. Now everything is there. Only you and me. You are speaking to an adult audience today and asking adults to change is obviously more difficult to address the problem on an earlier stage. How would you recommend to have the children changing at an earlier stage and having them doing something else than playing with the iPhone? In your perception, do you believe a child is supposed to be more sensible and intelligent or an adult is supposed to be more sensible and intelligent? What do you think? A child? That's a dangerous perception. The reason why everywhere in the world the laws are made like this, is that if a child commits murder, we will not punish him as we punish an adult is because there is a margin, because he is still growing. His faculties are not fully there. He is not fully responsible for his actions, isn't it? Yes or no? That's the reason why everything in the world is structured like that. So to put it in the right perspective, we are definitely expecting adults to behave more sensibly and more intelligently than the child. A child is given a huge margin because he is not it there. He is humanity in the making.  So if you think it's an adult's prerogative to be rigid and flexible, this is how I am. I thought this is only an Indian problem. In India, there are many people, you tell them something, you say, I am like this only. Now you are saying you are like this only. You are not like this only. It is just that to dissolve your rigidity, you have not found a solvent. I will give you a solvent. We can dissolve your rigidity. Right now your rigidity has come to your body because of a certain lifestyle and because of certain attitudes to your mind. Nothing else. Your body and mind, let's look at it this way. This is too little a time to look at this aspect, but I want you to think about it. Your body, your physical body, over the period of time you gather, isn't it so? It's an accumulation. Eggs, bread, bananas, this, this, this, this. Body, you accumulated or no? Why are we not on talking terms? I came all the way to speak to you. Is body an accumulation? Yes. What you call as your mind is an accumulation of impressions. Yes? What you accumulate can be yours. I will not dispute that for now. But cannot be you, isn't it? I am speaking now using this microphone. Suddenly I say, this is my microphone.  After some time I say, this is me. Then you will say, let's go. Let's attend Martha's class. I'm sorry. If I claim this microphone is me, just because I'm using it, would you think I'm insane or not? Yes. Right now you're doing this every day. Food appears on your plate. You say this is my food. You eat it and then you say this is me. You need to look at this. I'm trying to do this shortcut. It's not a good way to do it. What is not you? If you think it is you, what is not you? If you think it is you, even the medical explanation for insanity is that. Yes or no? The medical definition of insanity is if I think I'm the microphone, the psychiatrist will say you need treatment. Yes or no? What you gather can be yours, can never ever be you, isn't it? So there is something that gathers all this that is an intelligence which can make a identity a human being. Should you not access it? Should you not make that dimension of intelligence possible? I am not asking you to change. I am not asking you to change. Change is just a little improvement of the past. I am not asking you to change. I am telling you, as a human being, you have come with a potential which is enormous. About two years ago, the cell phone companies in India did a survey. India is one of the big, not one of the, the biggest cell phone industry growing right now. 60 million phones we are adding per year. So the companies made a survey and they found 97% of the people are using only 7% of a cell phone's capability. This is, we are not talking about your smart phones, the dumb phone. Of the dumb phone, 97% of the people are using only 7% of its competence. So they must be contemplating. Even if we remove 90% of the software, most people will not know. 3% complaints we can handle it. Business, you know. Now, if a simple gadget like a cell phone, if we are using only 7% of its competence, what do you think is the percentage of this super gadget we are using right now? I don't want to talk percentages. It's too low to talk about. You're comparing the body and the mind and in fact for the body, whatever you eat, the body will select, which is good for you and will evacuate, which is not useful. How does the mind evacuate? The mind is also doing this, but its decision making may not be as good as the body's because a part of it has been handed over to you. If the mind was not in your hands, suppose the digestive process is not in your hands, you put something, the stomach itself will decide what to take, what to throw out. But now in the mind, you choose. So that's why it's a mess up. What should go out is not there. But even now, there is a certain selection in the mind. See, everything that your five sense organs come in touch with in wakefulness and sleep is recorded in your mind. Suppose you walk from here to there, actually there may be twenty-five different types of smells. Everything is recorded. You won't feel it. Consciously you will not know it. Only if somebody smells really bad or really good, you will know. Otherwise, if you just walk like this, there are three hundred smells floating around in this hall. Every one of them is recorded in your mind. To what extent means? Suppose you are fast asleep. Let's say you are fast asleep, I come into your room and I speak in an Indian language of which you have no clue. But you are fast asleep. You didn't even hear. But twenty years later, let's say I spoke twenty sentences, twenty years later we can hypnotize you and make you speak those twenty sentences in a language that you do not know. Experiments like this have been done. So everything is being recorded, whether wakefulness or sleep. But still all of it is not in your memory, conscious memory. All of it is not finding expression in your life. But all of it is influencing you one way or the other. So I want you to know, even with food, what your body absorbs also has impact on the food. What your body rejects also has impact on your food, on your system. What your body rejects don't think it has no impact. It has impact on your system. So we're hearing in the video that you or Isha Foundation has four million, two millions of volunteers. My question is how do you manage to attract them? If anybody has to go crazy, it's me. Because doing all this activity, running various institutions, creating huge events on a daily basis all over and making this happen with volunteers means I want to understand what it means to work with volunteers. Nobody is trained for the job. That's the first thing.  And the next thing is you can't fire them. They're volunteers.  So what happens is, in a corporation, what you can do with one word, I do the same thing with one hundred words because I have to win over this person. Otherwise, she won't do what she has to do. But the efficiency with which we function, you come and see, we are super efficient in everything. Far more efficient than most corporations. That's why they're coming to us for training. I was conducting a program, a three-day event for the top 30 executives of Microsoft India. And I had about eight volunteers. They were running around doing everything. After two days, these executives, they're not watered. You know, they're always looking for attrition elsewhere. They said, Sadguru, where do you find these people? I said, you don't find them. You have to make them. How do you make them? I said, you have to make them fall in love with you. How do you do that? I said, first you have to fall in love with them. They said, oh, they don't pay us for that. So that's how it is. When people are passively involved, everything is a mess. But with simple adjustment, you can do wonderful things because human beings are functioning at hundred percent. Nobody's trying to hold back anything. Everybody's trying to do their best. Many times their best is quite burdensome. But that's the whole thing. So managing a situation like this, anybody can go crazy. But I will not go crazy because that one thing I fixed. What we have fixed is just this. See, for example, human experience goes through various things. Every human experience, for example, let's say peace. Suppose you lost your peace today. What happens? You go home and people at home, the family gets the first dose, usually. If it continues, tomorrow you may pick a quarrel on the street.  The moment you yell at your boss, everybody knows that you need medical treatment. When you yelled at the family, they thought it's normal. If you start yelling in a situation where it will have serious consequences for you, people know you need treatment. So you go to a doctor. Initially the doctor tries to talk you out and it doesn't work, then he throws a pill into you. Pill means what? Little bit of chemicals. Little bit of chemicals, suddenly you become peaceful. Maybe not forever, at least for a short period of time. Or in other words, what you call as peace is a certain kind of chemistry. What you call as joy is another kind of chemistry. Blissfulness is another kind of chemistry. Ecstasy is one kind of chemistry. Agony is another kind of chemistry. Thermoil is another kind of chemistry. Anxiety and fear are the kinds of chemistry. Whole human experience, a range of human experiences are different chemical bases within you. Now we are talking about a technology of creating the right kind of chemistry. You are in a chemistry of blissfulness. Doesn't matter what the situations are. You are at your best. Right now, people's logic is this, the situation is going wrong, I will also go wrong. This is a silly way to exist. Especially if situations are going wrong, it's all the more important that you are on the track, isn't it? Once you establish your way of being and it cannot be disturbed by what's around you, one thing that has happened to you is you are free of suffering.  Otherwise, every step that you take is a half a step. What will happen to me? If this doesn't work, what will happen to me? Just to give you an example, in 1998, certain experts from United Nations came to South India and they made a prediction by 2025 Tamil Nadu State where we are, 60% of this state will become a desert. I didn't like predictions. I don't like any kind of predictions because predictions about individual human beings or societies are being made without taking into account what is beating in a human heart. Only statistics. Looking at today's numbers, you are saying tomorrow's numbers will be like this. I said I don't like this and I drove around. I wanted to see for myself if it's true. I drove across Tamil Nadu just to see if it's real. Then I saw that what they said was wrong because it's going to happen much quicker than 2025. Then I came back and said what to do? Then I saw in Tamil Nadu there was only 16% green cover. The national aspiration is 33%. Then I made a simple barefoot calculation. For the area that we have, if we plant 114 million trees in 6 to 8 years time, in 15 to 20 years we'll have 33% green cover. So I called a group of people and said we need to plant 114 million trees. This is Hath Guru. Do you know what's 114 million? How can anybody plant 114 million trees? Then I said see what's your population? 62 million. If all of us plant one tree today, take care of it for two years, plant one more. How many do you have? You got the number? Even a beggar in the street can plant a one tree. He'll have an office growing for himself. He'll have an office space going for himself if he grows a tree, isn't it? A growing office space. So today we have, you know it's like almost 12 years now, we have planted 16.7 million trees, living trees, not just saplings, living trees. And this year we're planting 6 more million trees and Tamil Nadu's green cover has gone up by 7.2%. It's the only place in the whole of Asia where the green cover is actually going up, not down. And we did not give up our life to do this. This is one of the side things that I'm doing. In a month I spend about three to four hours on this project. That's how much time I allotted for this project. With three, four hours in a month's time, I think it's good enough result. I thought we will plant 114 million trees. We've not gotten there, we're near 20 million. It's still a long way to go, but for three, four hours of investment it's good enough. That means management must be good, isn't it? Because it is not management, it's a big law of air.  They will not fall in love with you unless you fall in love with them. That's a secret. You have to do it first. Thank you for coming. It's a pleasure to be here. In the process of setting up a new initiative called My Drop in the Oceans, and the idea of My Drop in the Oceans is to help people to describe and to define their own drop in the oceans in terms of their own impact on the environment, the positive, the services that we benefit from from the environment. I just wonder, those drops can be a multitude of actions or you could describe them as one accumulation of actions. I just wonder how you would describe your own drop in the oceans. See, the action has to be focused. If it's multitude of actions, it will not go anywhere. One of the most important things that's needed is any number of individual human beings are doing wonderful things. But the problem is they can't scale it up simply because they do it their own way. Now, we got to do it the way it works, not our own way, not my way, not your way. We just have to learn to do everything the way it works, not my way or your way. There is no my way and your way. There is a way of the world. We have to do it that way. There is a way of this planet. We have to do it that way. Only then we will be a sustained success. Otherwise my way and your way is ambition, which is destroying the world. Vision means we do it the way it works. If we do it the way it works, we'll all do it the same way. Then there is no problem. If you do it my way and your way, then there is a problem, isn't it? Thank you very much.