In editorial, the Journal of the American Medical Association, a chair of nutrition at Harvard pointed out that many plant-based meat alternatives, such as Beyond Meat and the Impossible Burger, can be high in sodium. But an issue specific to the Impossible Burger was the heme they add, derived from soybean plants to enhance the product's meaty flavor and appearance. Safety analyses have failed to find any toxicity risks specific to the soy heme. They have yeast churned out. The FDA has agreed, both for use as a flavor and color enhancer, safe. In other words, just as safe as the heme found in blood, muscle, and meat. But how much is that really saying? The concern raised in the op-ed, for example, was that higher intake of heme has been associated with elevated risk of developing type 2 diabetes. But not just diabetes, killer number 7 in the United States. Higher dietary intake of heme iron is associated with an increased risk of cardiovascular disease as well, killers number 1, 4, and 13. Heart disease, stroke, and high blood pressure. But since heme is found mostly in meat, hemen intake may just be a marker for meat intake. It's like diabetes. Three meta-analyses published today and they all reported the same link. But there's lots of reasons why meat may increase diabetes risk, like advanced glycation in products produced when animal products are baked, broiled, grilled, fried, or barbecued. So how do we know that the heme isn't just some innocent bystander? The same issue arises as between the link between hemen take an increased breast cancer risk. Since heme iron is coming from animal foods, it could be any of the other meat components like animal fat or meat mutagens, compounds in meat that can cause DNA mutations. And hey, what about all the hormonal steroids implanted into cattle that may play a role in the development of breast cancer? A study in Japan found that beef imported from the United States contained up to 600 times the level of estrogens like estradiol, U.S. beef, Japanese beef, and higher consumption of estrogen-rich beef due to hormone implantation may facilitate estrogen accumulation in the human body and thus affecting women's risk for breast cancer. So yeah, heme iron intake was associated with breast cancer risk, but maybe that's just because the heme and the hormones are traveling together in the same package, meat. This is about as good as any observational study can do. The NIH AARP study is the largest prospective study on diet and health ever, following more than a half million men whom for over a decade now, with such a huge data set, they could take advantage of the fact that different meats have different amounts of heme, so they could try to tease out the heme components by in effect comparing people eating different amounts of heme but the same amount of meat to see if heme is independently associated with disease. And indeed, that's what they showed. An independent association not only from nitrites and processed meat, but heme and mortality from almost all causes. Death from diabetes, heart disease, stroke, respiratory disease, kidney disease, liver disease, cancer, and all causes put together. They calculated that about one-fifth of the association between like eating burgers and the shortening of your lifespan could be statistically accounted for by just the heme itself, but that's assuming cause and effect. Even an independent association is still an association. You can't prove cause and effect until you put it to the test in interventional studies. Normally, we don't necessarily care about the mechanism. When the World Health Organization designated bacon, ham, hot dogs, luncheon meats, sausage, to be group 1 carcinogens, meaning we know these products cause cancer in human beings, I mean, who cares if it's the heme ion or the heterocyclic aromatic amines or the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons or the endonitrosomies? They're all wrapped up in the same place, processed meat, which we know causes cancer, so we should just try to stay away from it, regardless of the mechanism. But with the advent of the impossible burger, we really do have to know, because for the first time we have lots of heme without any actual meat. So we need to know if the heme itself is harmful. For that, we'll have to turn to interventional studies, which we'll cover next.


Live from Los Angeles, it's theCUBE, covering Open Source Summit North America 2017, brought to you by the Linux Foundation and Red Hat. Okay, welcome back everyone, live here in Los Angeles, it's theCUBE's exclusive coverage of the Open Source Summit North America. I'm John Furrier, your host with my co-host, Stu Miniman with Wikibon. Our next guest is Ross Turk, Director of Evangelism at Red Hat. Welcome to theCUBE, good to see you again. So, evangelizing is now going to be super more important as Open Source Summit, formerly called the Linux Con, Linux Kernel. So Linux is really now the foundation. So now all these new products are emerging, hence the new name, Open Source Summit. You guys are in the middle of it. What's the themes that you guys are pumping out there right now? From an evangelistic standpoint, give me the order of operations in terms of priorities. Well gosh, we're trying to tell stories about how people operate infrastructure in today's modern world, right? Which is a lot about making sure that dealing with ephemeral infrastructure, dealing with containerized applications and that sort of thing, it gives a lot more flexibility to people who are doing modern operations. It's about applications that spill over across multiple machines and doing so in a way that doesn't require a lot of heavy lifting or wiring things up by hand. So there's this whole modern operations experience thing we talk about. But we also talk about a modern developer experience. What does it mean to build applications today? And of course, you combine those together. It turns into DevOps, right? But a lot of companies still work in these two separate worlds. But people are building technology differently than they ever did in the past and they're deploying it differently than they did in the past. So there's lots of stories that can come out of that. Let's start with the story that we love. Stu and I were talking about Serverless at the beginning because you have the DevOps movement certainly is going mainstream. You're seeing a lot of enterprises looking at that as viable. Now they're operationalizing it and they need to have that industrial strength. Red Hat, Linux. But now, Kubernetes and Serverless, the younger developers, they just want infrastructure as code. So that seems to be a very hot story here and Kubernetes Serverless is kind of in the hallway conversations. How do you guys bring that to bear? Well, I think that what Red Hat does is we give an operating environment that can sit underneath all of it with RHEL and everything else we build that is stable and secure and reliable. And you need that in order to have all of this chaos happening above it with developers deploying microservices and moving things around and, you know, demands changing and all these other things. You need to have something really stable and reliable underneath that. Something that you know can be, you know, if the applications and virtual machines and containers aren't long running, what sits underneath them is long running and it still needs to be stable and reliable. So a lot of the work we've been doing for the past 20 years around Linux engineering, I think, contributes to making this stable environment for a modern developer. Yeah, Ross, one of the challenges in scaling is usually, you know, I got to worry about things like storage. State is there. Data gravity is something we need to be concerned about. It's great to say ephemeral and I want everything anywhere and I can put it in this cloud or use it in that application, but at the end of the day, it's tough to build some of these pieces. How's Red Hat helping there as containerization and scale? How does that fit into the storage that's got you on? And it's a real struggle, right?  And they talk about this really elaborate infrastructure. You're like, well, where's all your data being stored? Well, it's sitting in Oracle, you know? So you find this sort of like this dissonance between how data is managed and how applications are managed. At Red Hat, we believe that storage should be another microservice alongside all the other microservices make up an application. So that's why we put a lot of engineering effort into making things like Cep and Red Hat Gluster Storage work well alongside OpenShift so that a developer can provision storage as needed without having to go to an ops person and that when that storage gets provisioned, it's just, it's in containers alongside other containers that are providing the other things that your application needs. Software-defined storage was the answer. It's the holy grail. We've heard software-defined data center. We've been covering this at VMworld. We've heard all a lot about that. But that still is a key part of its software. And now you have hardware stacks. So IoT and cloud are opening up these new use cases for enterprises where, whoa, we actually kind of didn't test that hardware with that software. So it's kind of interesting dynamic. Software-defined is still super important. What's your view on software-defined storage in particular? Is that an answer? Is it stable? What's your thoughts? Well, I think it's an answer, but it depends on what the question is. Just to be kind of, what is software-defined storage? Let's start with that one. Well, so what is software-defined storage? Software-defined storage is, okay, so I'll say it in more like what it isn't. The traditional storage, traditional storage solutions get deployed as appliances, which are vertically integrated hardware and software solutions that are built to do one thing to do that one thing well. And that one thing is stored data. They're kind of like big refrigerator-sized things that you bring into your data center with a forklift and it's a big operation and then they provide storage for any number of applications. What software-defined storage does is it implements those same services and those same capabilities, but it does it entirely in software. So instead of being this vertically integrated software hardware solution, you end up with software that lets you build it on any hardware. And that hardware can be physical hardware, so you can build a storage cluster made up of a thousand bare metal servers or you could build that same cluster on a thousand VMs inside of a public cloud. So in making storage no longer a hardware problem like it used to be, I mean fundamentally it's a hardware problem. You get down bits of storage somewhere, but the management of storage is no longer a hardware concern. It's a software concern now and that means it's a little bit more flexible. You can containerize it. You can deploy it in the public cloud. You can deploy it in VMs. You can deploy it on bare metal. So that's what software-defined storage is doing is it's changing things around, but it requires different skills. Come on Ross, I want a storage-less environment. Can we get on that? A storage-less environment? Sure, I guess. Storage just becomes somebody else's problem at that point. Absolutely. How about, how's containers changing that whole discussion? It took us like a decade to kind of get storage working in a virtualized environment. Networking seems to be really tackling the container piece. Storage seems a little further behind. What are you seeing some of the big challenges there and how are we looking to solve that? When you look at containers and storage, there are really two things to consider. The first is, how do you make storage such that a containerized environment can consume it easily? This is what at Red Hat we call container ready. So while a storage solution container ready, when it means that your container platform knows how to consume it, most storage is container ready. All it takes is a Kubernetes volume driver to be container ready and that's one half of it. And that's really, really important. It's the same kind of thing we had to do with virtualization, making sure every hypervisor could talk to every storage system. Now we're making sure every container platform can talk to every storage system. That's important, but it's only half the puzzle. Because the other half is, now that you have storage as a software thing, a distributed software thing, you can actually deploy that storage inside the same containers that you're using, that are driving the demand for that storage. So it's this kind of weird, snake eating its own tail thing where you as a developer, let's say I'm deploying an application, I need a database, I need a web server, and a bunch of other things, and I need a scale out storage system. I can deploy that in containers just alongside everything else. And it uses the local storage of each of the container hosts to build that shared storage that then is used to provide services to other containerized applications. So it's the ability to have storage in containers, which is really strange. We call that container native storage. It's interesting, the market's going pretty crazy. So if you kind of take the DevOps and say, assume for a minute, infrastructure is programmable. But then you look at the developer action right now on the app side, you're seeing all kinds of new stuff. Apple has their announcement today with the new iPhone 8, we've been covering that on SiliconANGLE.com, Forbes has got great stories as well.  Those are going to require new chips. That's going to require consumer behavior change. So the developers are staring at a different market and worrying about provisioning storage. But these are now new pressures, new hardware, new opportunities. As a developer advocate and evangelist and an industry participant and user, how do you look at that? How does that impact in the developer market? Because Android's got good stuff coming down too, not just Apple, Samsung. It's all multimedia. What's interesting about AR kit is that if you go just back five years, that same capability required a very, very particular type of phone. The Project Tango stuff required all these depth cameras and connect style stuff to do the AR kit, and Apple was able to solve a lot of that in software just using two cameras and in software. And I think that's really- On a phone. On a phone, on a phone no less. And I think that's what's amazing about that is all the capabilities that we walk around within our pocket now were really hard to get a long time ago. This is interesting, your point. Let's stay on this for a second. This really illustrates the point. AR kit, for example, is proving that the iPhone now is smart enough with software, enough horsepower to do that kind of thing. But that's replicable across all devices now as an IoT device. So the internet of things is going to be a freight train coming down the tracks. Security, endpoint, security, whether it's all kinds of coolness, but yet threats are there. So software has to do all of this, right? So how's that going to impact the cloud game, your business, you guys, you have to move faster on hardening things, be more organic on the innovation side, not business-wise, but technical strategy. Well, I think a lot of it is enabling developers to work more quickly and build features more quickly. Also, educating developers on the security and privacy ramifications of the things that they build because it's really easy to just go out in front and advance and innovate and forget about all that stuff. So it's about changing developer culture so that you consider security and privacy first as opposed to later. And also, maybe you want to consider storage as well if you're talking about machine learning or IoT and all of these types of things you're gathering tons of data. This is video, software rendering, that's storage nightmare too. It's all got to live somewhere. And once you put it in that place where it lives, it's really hard to move it. So this is the thing you want to plan from the very beginning. And I think that's what's cool about AI too in self-driving cars. It's a consumer, flashy coolness that can say, hey, this is happening. I mean, how fast is it happening? But the developers now bring it to the business and saying, okay, we don't have an AR virtual reality strategy for our retail, for instance. You potentially could be out of business. So these are the kind of thoughts that are going on the C level that now are going into what used to be IT but all of IT, how do you handle this? This is an architectural question. So your thoughts on that because that seems to be a conversation we see a lot. Architectural, that's going to solve problems today, not foreclose future opportunities. Well, it's cultural too inside of a company. Like everywhere inside of a company, there used to be internet teams in companies, remember? It used to be like, oh, go talk to the internet team because something's wrong with the web or whatever. Now there's no internet team. Everybody's the internet team. Every single team in an organization is thinking about how to leverage the internet to make their job more effective. The same is going to be true for everything that we're talking about, you know? It's security, interestingly enough. So many people always thought security was somebody else's problem. But just this week we were reminded that it's everybody's problem, hundreds of millions of people's problem, security. So I think that as these things kind of advance. Security first and privacy first is critical. It is absolutely critical. And there used to be, I mean, I think at some point maybe there won't be a security team inside of a company because everybody's going to be the security team. Just like everybody's the internet team now. And I always felt the same way about open source communities. I thought there would never, there were always everybody. Well, people are rolling their own security now. You have these life lock or whatever they're calling these services for password protection because you can't trust even all these databases that are out there. You have blockchain with immutability. Certainly the wallets are not yet. But I mean, certainly this is where it might be a future scenario. I mean, yeah. And I think for all of these things, agility is going to be key. The ability to go down a path a certain distance and realize, whoa, I've run into a privacy problem, back up a little bit, continue down another path. I think that the faster we can make a development process, I think the less risky we make going into all these new frontiers. Yeah, Ross, one of the things we've really liked watching in the last kind of five years or so is storage turning into a discussion of data and how can we leverage that data? Real-time data, decisions at the edge, analytics. What's exciting you the most about the kind of the storage world these days? Oh boy. Well, you know, I just spent about five years in the storage infrastructure world. So a lot of what kind of kept me going day and night was saving people money, making things faster, making things easier, but also giving storage platforms that were elastic enough to handle all of this really interesting stuff that happens on top of them. So there's all kinds of new big data stacks that I find particularly interesting. A lot of the real-time analysis stuff like Apache Spark and things like that. There's so much going into visualization right now as well, how you handle large amounts of time series data and that sort of thing. It's been a lot of, there's been a lot of advancements in exactly that. Personally, I'm really excited lately in all the data-vis stuff. All the ways you can extract meaning from all this data. You know, the ways that you can make it, give it a business context that allows you to make better decisions with it. Not a lot of data conversations here at this conference. Obviously it's open source software, but I mean data, I mean I've said, I wrote a blog post in 2008, I always, Dave always jokes them because I always reference it, but I said data is a new development kit. Meaning data is going to be part of the software development model and it actually is with big data, but you're not hearing a lot of it here because most people are talking about their communities, their projects, but the role of data is fundamental at the edge. Absolutely. And so how is that going to change some of these conversations and if, can data be developed on? And is data now part of the software development lifecycle that's coming to fruition in the new way? Interesting, I think that's an interesting observation as we see sort of like Dev and Ops coming together, right, the world of the operator and the world of the developer coming together, I think we'll probably at some point see the world of the developer come together with the world of the data scientist because as I kind of rack my brain, I'm thinking what type of future developer wouldn't have to be dealing with large amounts of data, wouldn't have to have that kind of skill to be able to deal with it. So I think we're going to start to see more software developers getting more involved in big data machine learning, data analytics and things like that. So either way, the open source growth that's coming is going to be exponential, data's already there.  So in terms of, in terms of how you look at it, who someone's eating somebody, but this becomes interesting for the IoT developer or the industrial developer. Those systems were never connected to IT in the past. It was like they ran their own stuff and their own terminals. And there's this idea that everybody's heard that data has gravity, right? And I actually was talking to somebody about this and they said, well, actually the data has inertia. And I'm like, nah, that's not really it because once it's moving, it doesn't, you can't, it's not hard to stop it. But the idea that data has gravity means that, let's say I'm putting together this new IoT application or whatever, I'm gathering data from a bunch of sensors or whatever. And I've got the data in that place. Now, having all that data in that place is more meaningful to me than most of the software that I wrote. Do you know, it's like, that is the value, the kernel of the data is there. And data having gravity means that it's hard to move once it's in a certain place, but it also means that it attracts workloads to IT, right? So it used to be that software was king and software created data and managed data and now data is king and it brings software to IT, I think. I totally agree with you. I think they might even call this the open data summit soon when it's beyond open source. Now, this is going to be great. I think we're canned in hand. Software and data are going to be great. Stu, what's your thoughts on the role that data is not being talked much here? Yeah, well, John, Amazon reinvented last year when we talked to Andy Jassy. It was the customers were the flywheel and I think data is going to be that next flywheel. We're really feeding into that data gravity discussion that you were having Ross. You know, we talked when Hadoop came out, it was like, oh, we're going to bring the code to the data. Well, we know if I'm going to have more data, I'm going to have my data sources, I'm going to have third party data sources that I want to be able to work and interact with those. So, you know, data, absolutely huge opportunities there and the companies that can leverage that and get more value out of it, it's going to be able to make it more competitive. I see it's a competitive advantage, no doubt, but it's the privacy issue. So the big debate that we know in our media businesses, look at Facebook, I get a free app, I get to UC, all my friends' photos, their vacations, everyone's living a great life on Facebook, but then all of a sudden I give my data away for free for that privilege to use that app, but all of a sudden they start injecting fake news at me.  So that's interesting. Facebook makes money off my data. Yeah, that's my contract with them. Yeah, if you ask what their asset is, one person might think it's traffic, you know, or eyeballs, but I think it's data. So they're using data, I might not like it, so that might be an opportunity for somebody else to your points do. So, if you start thinking about it differently, data decisions are going to be an architectural challenge. Yeah, absolutely. I think enterprise architects are thinking, even today you're seeing enterprise architects thinking more and more and more about data than they have in the past. Ross, what do you think about the show, final word in the segment, what's going on, OpenStore Summit, share with the folks that are watching, vibe here, it's now a new name, but still the same game, multiple events come together. Yeah, multiple events together. I like OpenStore Summit as a name. I think it's a good name. It's properly named for what's going on here. It's been an interesting experience for me because I've been in this community for a really long time. So I come here and I run into all kinds of old friends. The hallway tracks, always a good track for me. The content is fantastic, but the hallway track is always really good. And I just, I can't think of anywhere else where you can go and get this selection of people, right? You have people who are working on all layers of the problem and they can all come together and talk. So, I don't know. It's really a cross-fertilization, cross-pollination, whatever you want, word you want to use. I find, I think this event's going to be in the 30,000 pretty quickly. I mean, this is going to be, well, if you look at the growth and the numbers, you know, presented on stage, Jim Zemlin was pointing out the growth by 2026, 400 million libraries. And people still think that's underestimated. Yeah. So that's a lot of growth. I think it could get there. Well, and I think that, I think these folks organize great shows. So I look forward to seeing them scale up to 30,000. Ross, thanks for your commentary. Appreciate the perspective and insight here on theCUBE. Thank you. Thanks for joining us. This is theCUBE live coverage from open source Summit North America. I'm John Horst. Do many, many back with more after this short break.


Welcome back all right, so we were talking about wisdom and Yeah, so Just probably give you a couple of examples on you know why wisdom is important, right? These are real examples real life situations that happened One was I think you may have heard of it the rise and fall of Mars Hill This pastor was a wonderful pastor He started this church Mars Hill Wonderful man of God and the church started grown very quickly right and There were thousands of people and all of a sudden there was this huge growth and You can probably go online, I think There are many articles on Christianity today Preachers comm so there are many websites where you can just go and read about this and how You know this wonderful church, which eventually became about 40 40,000 odd people At the end what happened was everything just broke down everything fell apart and The ministry came down to nothing Now the reason was the leaders did not act in wisdom I forget his name leader of Mars Hill but And The the main pastor he was a very rude very Arrogant way of speaking He loved the Lord right there's this anointing upon his life. He was good teacher But he was very arrogant. He was very abusive in his words in his actions and eventually It all you know, it was bottled up for a long time So if you go online type in Mars, you'll see some of his early sermons where he's really teaching well but somewhere in between he was gotta be very abusive very you know like, you know abusing the congregation and abusing other ministries and Talking badly about people and there was no wisdom in what was happening, right? There was no accountability also and the whole ministry came to nothing Right, there's another ministry. I believe the name unnamed the I won't share the name But this is the ministry that happened in the West Where you know This wonderful man of God he started off, you know, just with a fire of God the anointing just to the heart to bless people and to Do the work of the ministry. So he started a church the church began to grow expand growing growing growing And he was a wonderful teacher of the Word of God, right? He would really expound truths And he he was somebody who would you know, he loved hermianetics, which is you know Understanding scriptures in its context. So he was really a wonderful teacher put many books as well but something happened that You know in in the US they have something called as the IRS Which checks on your taxes and making sure that taxes are being paid and all of this and so they You know, they contacted the ministry and said we need to check your taxes now It's now just because they did that it's not doesn't mean that the devil is attacking them It is a normal, you know procedure and it's okay. They wanted to you know, check the Taxes of the ministry and they checked and everything was haywire right there were bills going to some random people Additional amounts going to the pastors accounts and all of these things right and they asked him Why did you need three million or four million for in one month? Why did you need and it's accounted as ministry, what was the ministry you did on? You know example August 2015 what was the ministry you did you've got a bill for no two or three million What was the ministry was there a conference? He had nothing to say and It was you know, I think there was some of those Sessions were recorded, but you know, they must have been taken down in the court But he was compounding one lie after another lie after another lie and eventually he knew that it's not going to take him anywhere and Towards the end he was you know all his everything was out in the open He had taken these additional money to use it for his own ministry for his own gain bought private yards bought private jets and you know Everything was just gone in a moment Probably what he worked for for many many years Just gone in a couple of months everyone knew the church was closed down the others were asked to go find different churches he was you know under scrutiny He had to pay back pay the taxes. He had no way of paying it back people tried to help him and The ministry from thousands became zero why lack of wisdom papers were not set in in the right manner Accounting was not done in the right manner Is his teaching good? Wonderful weather science miracles and wonders. Yes, there was Was he a wonderful teacher preacher of the word of God? Yes, he was He he wrote many books His books have sold millions of copies people take read it are encouraged and blessed but lack of wisdom I've just got the whole ministry down to nothing so in everything that we do Right everything that we do We must Act out of wisdom one of the things that I personally do and I pray every day Every single day every moment is God give me the wisdom to do Whatever work has been assigned to me to do it effectively Right, I know I can do it I need to prepare and you know go into the word and prepare or whatever tasks that I have to do as a pastor But give me the wisdom to do it the right way Give me the wisdom to speak the right way. There will be people who will come to you and you know Share many personal things or Difficult situations We need the wisdom of God to answer them right There's this one time last week somebody came and asked me Why is LGBT why can't we be a lesbian or a gay and still believe in Jesus? I love the Lord with all my heart But this is how I feel what can you tell if we need the wisdom of God what give me the wisdom? I Can't just keep telling you know, whatever I feel like I need the wisdom From God to answer these questions then somebody else came and asked me You know, oh, why is it? that you know You believe in pre-tribulation or why is it that Jesus did like you know said this this way So people have a lot of questions Right. What about speaking in tongues? Why is it like this or the gifts of the Holy Spirit? Why is it like this? We need the wisdom of God Here's the shows that I have the Holy Spirit It's a spirit of wisdom He gives it to us right and so we can ask God God give me the wisdom to handle the situation in the right way Right. I think I've shared this this one time somebody from this happened in Mangalore and This couple suddenly they just turned right it turned against me and they said, you know, this this this is he's like this He's given a whole list of things. I Was so upset said what is this? I was caring for them I was praying for them going, you know going out of my way and as a pastor did everything I can and Oh Now they turned against me I was so upset. I said, you know, this is not right. I need to deal with this but I was so furious But I wanted to you know really react that day But then I thank God for the spirit of wisdom.  Don't you speak a word? And I got this worse when the enemy comes into like a flood The spirit of the Lord will raise a standard against it. So I said, okay, girl The enemy is coming like a flood now, you know, I haven't done anything wrong Now the spirit of the Lord you raise up a standard against it. So I there was a certain piece in my heart And all of a sudden I began to love them said God you bless them Have them help them.  They're feeling lonely So all of a sudden that anger that hatred went away And there was this extra feeling of love or, you know, kindness and care for them But I kept quiet. I thought things will get better, but it just got kept getting worse And all of a sudden, you know, it came to a point that no, I didn't do anything Right things came to a point that they said, you know We will will try to come or we will go to another church But for now, you know, I really appreciate this is what they said really appreciate This church is pastor. Even though I don't you know, I may have got upset and angry But I really appreciate he never defended he never You know, anybody else would have come and said, you know, how can you see that? He never defended really appreciate them Maybe it was my mistake and he really we had a hard to hard discussion that they And he said, give me some time. I don't know what's wrong with me Maybe I'm going through something. I don't know why I got upset. I said, it's all right. You don't have to force yourself Right. So you see wisdom Will help us to get out of situations lack of wisdom will make us get into a situation that will make things worse Right and now I'm giving this example. Why because previous to this there were many times I've got upset and you know immediately said something and I realized that hey as a leader, I should not Right, so we learn from experience as Lou Bega said, right It's from experience We've learned from our exhale last time I did this Things went back this time Lord helped me to walk in wisdom right So each one of us, please remember this, right? We may be very learned. We may have the knowledge of great great revelations But we must walk in wisdom if we have a little bit of knowledge and walk in wisdom that is Better than having a lot of wisdom a lot of knowledge and is walking in foolishness Right. So ask God pray to the Holy Spirit and say God give me the wisdom What should I do? How should I speak? How should I portray myself as a leader? You know one of the things I remember when I was in Bible college was Now you know need to do this, but this is just something that I did and it helped me, right? So this is one when I joined the college. I was focused. I said, okay, God. I want to Learn your word nothing else. I've come here two years won't learn your word. I have to do this And I came fully prepared and I was really excited And I decided to myself I'm not gonna waste time Talking and chatting and gossiping with people because that is going to be there Right and so There was a time and I would never speak to anyone, right? I never speak to anyone in my class. I just Sit and do my work just concentrate on you know there's this one time and You know, we had boys and girls in our class. So I would never talk to any girl I've never talked right So there was this one time that somebody, you know Complained and said, you know Paul is telling this about this girl Nobody in the class believed it Nobody none of the teachers also believed it. They said, please go and sit in your place Because we know what Paul is first of all, he doesn't talk and Then on top of that you're saying this we don't believe you See the reason I'm saying this is when we walk in a brightness With the wisdom of God people will know People will see it and they will recognize Wisdom really elevates us Many a times many a times right In many seasons Right many a times we will have opportunities coming our way wrong opportunities But you got to run away from it But I run away from it Say God, give me the wisdom. Give me the grace Right and you see Joseph he ran away He ran away. He left everything and ran away Right. That's wisdom And he knew I'm not going to get into this And so we as leaders must be wise right And the reason I'm spending a lot of time in this is because I know many many leaders Who have failed Either sexual immorality or they've you know, they've they've gotten to pornography. They've gone into You know, uh adultery fornication Or sometimes it's, you know, just this constant lying Or this hatred for certain groups of people Right, um, or their own marriage is breaking up because of no wisdom Right or the children hate the parents who hate them because they're always in church Uh count of this So so we must learn to walk in wisdom Right if if you know your parents are correcting you Don't say hey, I'm in bible calls. I know more than you know Yeah, your parents right No matter how big we become how great we become and our achievements Our parents and our loved ones always we need to respect them to love them We may not agree with everything but wisdom Is God's command says love your father and your mother Done deal What they say You may not agree to it, but the wisdom of God is that we obey him Right. So each one of us let's let's do this right Let's not fall into the traps of the enemy Right my people perish Because of lack of wisdom The enemy will come Bring You know all these challenges and Situations and opportunities in front of you. You got to do the right thing ask the spirit of wisdom to help you right so Next one D Jesus combined his teaching with supernatural ministry Right even when he taught and we seen that right he took five loaves of bread Fed the thousands he walked on water. He did wonderful wonderful miracles. So basically he was trying to say hey I practice what I preach Imagine Jesus saying hey if you have faith as a mustard seed tell this mountain move It'll move and then Jesus is not doing anything. What'll they say? If I was one of the disciples I would have said first you show me something Right. I would have definitely asked Right. You you show me show me how much faith you have Showed to me then you Teach or then you talk, but Jesus thought he he he followed up his actions with supernatural Right now. I'm not saying that If if there's no supernatural we should not teach and preach. No We continue to teach and preach, but we must pursue the supernatural Right Jesus said without faith Right, if you have faith as a mustard seed, then what did he do? He walked on water. He showed them. Hey see You can do it I can do it. Yeah, Peter said yes, you can come on walk on the water Peter walked on the water Now if a shaman knows about walking on water That he knows the seas He knows how dangerous it is.  Oh, Peter. He lacked faith But we forget the part where he got off the boat and walked. No until Jesus He's the only person who walked Who express what about the other 11 disciples they was too scared They were sitting on the boat. They were probably thinking Peter. Please you you know what's happening You know that you can't walk on water, but he didn't listen right faith Is required in supernatural ministry right and and all of us Are called for the supernatural ministry all of us, right? So Can we prepare to teach or we are listening to hear the word of God or we are You know, maybe teaching somewhere you can teach the word and also You know prepare for the supernatural combine it with the supernatural Don't say okay, you know, I thought about you know, Elijah and You know the supernatural work that so that is Elijah. No, what about me? No Remember the book of Hebrews says The old covenant was glorious, but how much more glorious is the new covenant? Right the covenant that we are This side of the cross is much much more powerful And that side of the cross Right, so combine your ministry Combine your teaching your preaching with a supernatural Pursue it now. It's not going to happen by snap, right? It's not a snap. Okay. God tell me now and God will tell us no. It's a journey, right? We continue Every day to grow in that right Next one Jesus spoke in a figurative language The figurative language was another important characteristic of christ's teaching He often used metaphors the word metaphors simply means figures of speech Then he used exaggerations. That's called hyper bowls And harribles. Let's read matthew chapter 16 and verse 11 Yes, one of us can read matthew 16 and verse 11 Matthew 16 verse 11 Matthew 16 How is that? Do not understand that I speak It's not to you concerning bread That you should be aware of the living Living breads livings of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees Yeah, so he he's saying here. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, oboe bakre. So it says here How is it you don't understand that I was not talking to you about brand But be on guard against the east of the Pharisees now before that Jesus is explaining about the east Right when you put a little bit of east in the door, the whole door Is affected. It's basically like putting one drop of poison in a clean glass of water the whole water's poison Right, so he's explaining this to the disciples the disciples You know the Pharisees are like this the Sadducees, you know, uh, they look good on the outside Right, they want to look good in front of people, but there's they're like east Figure of speech. They're like east. They when you put them into the door just You know messes it up So be careful Be on guard against the east of the Pharisees, right? So it's figure of speech He's not he's not, uh, you know, saying they're carrying east and walking around. No He's talking in a figure of speech Right, uh, and he's used this in many other places. Let's look at the next one hyperbols Uh, Matthew chapter seven and verse three Let's go ahead anybody can read that Matthew seven and verse three Matthew seven verse three And why behold out the mute Matthew seven and three Yeah And why behold out the mode that is uh in thy brother's eye But consider not the Beam that is in thy own eye This is a common verse that we all use no Somebody says hey you you know, you didn't preach properly. Hey, you don't look at the Speck of dust in my eye. Look at the log of who did your right? Right. It's a hyper bowl, right Meaning there was it's an exaggeration right, uh, it's a even even the whole like The parable or when jesus is saying You know, uh, if you have seed if you have faith as a mustard seed you can move the mountain it's an uh, it's a combination of figure of speech and Uh, a hyper bowl you can't if you have faith of a mustard seed How can a mountain whole mountain move aside? Right. So so jesus spoke in these ways Right and he thought in these ways. He used totally he used parables so Uh, so that's why his teaching was very effective Right one. He used figures of speech To he used hyper bowls things that are You know something that is not possible like even the example of It's easier for a rich for a poor man to For no, sorry It's easier for the rich man to enter the eye of a for a camel to enter the eye of a needle Than a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven now. It's a hyper bowl right a camel Cannot enter the eye of a needle Right, so it was an exaggeration So there are many places that jesus did that and the most powerful of all of them were the parables Right, uh, when you think about jesus's teachings the first thing you think of is parables So jesus used different kinds of parables the word parable comes from the greek word parable Which means to cast alongside Or it's an extent figure of speech In a story form right so An earthly story With a heavenly meaning An earthly story with a heavenly meaning right now when we read the Entity of the new testament jesus ministry There were two kinds of parables or that he spoke about one was kingdom parables Like talking about the kingdom of god Right, uh, and you'll see that all through in the book of uh mark and at the mark and luke Kingdom parables talking about the kingdom of god And then you got the regular parables talking about earthly elements Earthly things like for example lostness Right, uh, then the lost shape the lost coin all all these are earthly Uh needs of the people during that time Right, so why did the lord jesus use parables? Yeah, it says here parables helps him it was illustrating truths And two to obscure truth From those whose heads were hard and unyielding right one is to illustrate the truth To is to obscure the truth from the heads of those who are you know, they thought they knew everything Right and mostly he was talking about the Pharisees and the Sadducees right who thought they knew everything about the scriptures Now picture this the parable of the sower Right jesus was giving this whole Thing he's teaching the people there The disciples are probably sitting there wondering what is he saying? And the others are there also listening to a nice story A man was walking He had seeds in his hand and then he threw the seeds Some fell on tawny Some fell on stone some fell here and it's a wonderful story. We all like stories. No listening to stories It's a wonderful story but He ended that with You know bringing the truth out saying that's what our heart is our heart is The disciples later asked what did you talk about the parable of the sower? We didn't understand anything And jesus says okay said i'll explain to you and he begins to explain them to them right The seed is the word of god The ground is the good ground And this is what so he explains the whole parable right so Parables illustrate Now while teaching And you're preaching it's always it's good right you will learn more on this Not sure if you've started with homiletics and those session those courses, but It's good to add You know stories Things that people can relate to Right so for example if you're teaching Um give a few examples Give a few thoughts ideas Or or some suggestions Something that you have read about and so that is why in teaching we must you know My teacher used to tell me a good teacher somebody who keeps god's word in one hand and god's world in another hand Right now here's the thing i'm going to ask you a question right What do you think about uh the ukrain war? What do you think about the ukrain war now? Imagine We don't know anything about it Now somebody in your church is going to come and ask you what do you think about the ukrain war? What are you going to say? I don't know that's in ukraine. No, don't worry. You come to church here We can't say that right So we must be aware of things that are happening You know, I remember the day when you know, the united states of america said uh at the president said We're going to make jerusalem the capital of israel I got Goosebumps all over my body because I thought wow A direct prophecy already fulfilled And then I was reading many articles and uh some I went I just came across this article where The muslims are in talks with the jews Now jews are very very rich people right And so that land where The tomb is Is according to them. It's david's land right but The muslims came and captured it and all of that So the jews the muslims are willing to negotiate Terms with the jews to buy it Things are going forward in that What is that? Why is it something important for us? Now if we don't understand these things we will not be as teachers will not be able to grasp the meaning of these things Now why is it important? It's so obvious right? The second temp the the temple has to be rebuilt there Right The jews have to get back that property The temple has to be rebuilt once the temple is rebuilt They know revelations talks about how the antichrist comes into power He'll go and sit inside and said he is the king And then we know the whole story jesus comes he reigns there so that there should be a physical temple And it's on that land itself The prophecy is being fulfilled All right, so we we had to hold god's word in one hand and the word in another hand Talking about science and we're in the next month of september 1st onwards. We're talking about faith and science And you know many questions there to talk about but the point is When we are teaching and preaching we must be aware Right, we must be aware of what's happening around us around the world World events and also Like you know don't get don't be fearful reading all these things and so our time is coming no We trust god's word. We trust and god. We know that god is taking care of us. He knows what's best for us But as teachers we must you know Put our mind into all of these aspects right so it's not easy Just just say okay. I want to be a teacher. There's a lot of preparation a lot of things involved so Three examples of parables told by jesus Luke 15 contains three parables right and all these three parables have the similar meaning there is The parables of lostness All right, so there are three the lost sheep the lost coin and the lost son Right, so he says the lost sheep. Okay. He had 100 Out of the hundred One went away a stray So the shepherd leaves the 99 And goes searching for that one so again There is something lost And a seeker attempting to find something lost and when he found it there was Found what was lost there was celebration and there was joy The parable of the lost sheet is so wonderful, right leaves the 99 He goes finds that one and when he found it he puts it on his shoulder and comes back with joy Now nowadays the shepherds. I don't know what they're going to do Nowadays shepherds if the sheep goes away Probably say okay, it's okay. Leave it. We had so many more or they say You know, they beat the sheep and say how can you go? You know, you're supposed to be here right and sometimes As parents we do that to our children. We must be very careful Right, there are many times spoken to people and teens They've shared with me, you know, they said I just feel lonely I feel alone. I feel I'm lost in this world of You know, uh, so much that's happening this world of chaos World of confusion so much is happening. I feel lost To look at them everything looks fine. I mean, they have a good family. They have Friends, but they just lost so The Lord Jesus here Christ is illustrating that In our lostness. He's willing to find us He's willing to restore us back and he celebrates for that At he's willing to go to the extreme to bring us back Into his kingdom, right? Christ was illustrating God's attitude towards the sinners when they were found God is not saying oh finally you came back I told you know parable of the lost son The father doesn't say you came back You Did what you had to do and came now what happened? Where's the property? Where's the money? and look at you No, nothing. He says there's a celebration Complete restoration right There's a lost coin coin is lost. I mean this Hey, the person is searching and searching and searching this coin remove everything In the house to search for that one coin And when it's found there's much rejoicing And I'm sure that when the Lord Jesus spoke of these It gripped the people's heart. They would have thought oh how lost I am You know being in this place just going to these temples offering sacrifices offering these Things that are meaningless to my heart And they must have thought I'm so lost without a savior And Jesus again is bringing that whole thing, you know a good teacher makes The their audience think And have questions at the end questions about their own life A good teacher will dig deep into a person's heart and bring out truth Right And and that's what happens right so we must be willing to Take the effort and you know now Jesus use parables we can use stories. We can use examples ask God for wisdom right, I was just remember of this one time you know, we used to go to colleges and And you know, I had this one hour of you know worship share a short message and end in about 15 minutes and Um, we went to this college a lot of Muslims in this college and Um, there were about 300 odd people students Champact audience And they were all like, you know talking to each other. They were not interested They knew that you know, they're going to come and sing and talk about God And so all of them were in their own world, you know, just distracted and talking and You know nibbling at each other poking fun at each other And the two songs we sang two songs and I during the songs I saw that they were Least bothered not interested at all. I said, God, please give me the wisdom. Give me the strength to you know Minister that Lord you have to speak to them. It was Very very intimidating, right? They're all staring at you and they're all poking fun You know, they're making passing comments and all of that And I remember that day, uh, you know, I had a video Well, I think most of us have seen this video Derek Redmond was a runner The 1994 I think I may get the wrong year wrong, but it's the Olympics finals of the Olympics 400 meters uh Raise and he was you know The most favorite to win because he had won he had won many Uh, you know Races before and he was the fastest and everyone knew it. It was probably That he's either going to go gold or silver So he was ready for the race and uh, you can go up on youtube and check it also the video there So he goes ready for the race. He's running half the way. He has a hamstring He falls down in extreme pain and He gets up and he begins to limp and he tries to finish the race because he didn't want to end the race on a stretcher So he begins to limp and cross and just just walk and try to finish the race and all of a sudden a man comes out from the crowd and Helps him to walk and that was his own father And he begins to cry and the father saying it's okay. Don't worry. Let's finish this race together They finish the race and after they finish the race Up to date. Nobody knows who Won the gold for 1994 olympics 400 meters. Nobody knows But everyone know the person who came last He fell and his father came the 30 40 000 people in the order in the whole stadium were clapping and honoring what he did I just played that video Right after playing that video it's a five minute video after playing the video I just said see we all fall down in life and just a simple, you know We all fall down in life, you know, just like how we fall It's all he could have chosen to go back home in a stretcher, but he decided no, I will stand up It was painful. He began to walk and then The father came we all need a father and we all need more than a father. We need god to help us simple thing Halfway down all the girls are crying They're weeping And tears are falling everyone.  This is important principal said it's okay. We can stay back and You know me and a few of us were there and we prayed over them Right all of them had a story to tell But all of them were touched Just it was not the preaching Not at all. It was just what they saw in that video Right, so this is something that you know, maybe all of you if you're reaching out of people colleges youth teams Use that video it Rarefully use it say god minister to people and I'm sure that will touch and Now on with youtube you can go and you can check on, you know, there's many things available so you can Use these tools and You know now the annoying is not on the video the anointing is On on our prayer on the word that we say, you know We need to be prepared to preach and to teach Whatever right the word of god and Use that as a source of our of our talk right and Finally last thing themes of other parables christ taught forgiveness Generosity you talk about he spoke about humility Um, who sure whoever wants to be first must be last and last must be first Uh judgment. He spoke a lot about judgment. He talked about the kingdom of god kingdom parables He talked about the law The lord's return Talked about mercy prayer and so much more right So he didn't just stick to one topic which he'd like but he he was very diverse he was able to minister to many people who had diverse problems difficult seasons or things that they were going through and You know He was able to minister and touch people's lives You see them their discussion questions. I think I leave this open now How is it possible to be authoritative and loving at the same time? Yes, anybody can share maybe some of you in leadership Anybody can share. How is it possible to be authoritative and Loving at the same time. How do we do this? Feel free to share your thoughts Yes, go ahead lubega. I think you should do You people when you Suppose let me say like I'm a leader in an institution And I have a staff of people We should do sit with them and set rules and regulations ahead of time I wouldn't wait for somebody to come late and then I say the rules of here if you come late You you get a deduction of 50 maybe 50 usd on your salary before You should set rules and regulations before time and people are aware of what is going to happen In the case of a breach of anything and then there you stay a simple cool guy Rules will always work. You will be lovely to them and they will never say anything. You always be ahead of your game Thank you pastor. Yes. Yes, that is perfect. That's wonderful lubega you know Have sometimes we think okay. No god. No god is above rules. No god also follows rules Read the book of exodus. Oh my god. Read the book of numbers He goes on he says, you know, you have to walk this way God says the tribe of benjamin you walked the tribe of judo the tribe you walk this way walk in this order The person standing in front will carry the banner of the thing and when you walk walk in this way, oh so much God has rules.  So wonderful. Thank you lubega Yeah, set certain rules as a leader and let them know that these are rules that we want to follow So you're being authoritative and then you're also being loving by saying that, you know It's good that we follow these rules It's for our benefit as well, right? So that's wonderful. Yes Zellie says if we lean on the holy spirit, uh, he's a spirit of wisdom. He will enable us. Yes. Thank you Uh Sid says sometimes I try to share Jesus with my college mates, but they don't take Jesus as a son of god like mostly Most of them are muslim They say that Jesus was a prophet and a son of god What should I do? in these Please share your opinion They say that we are the genuine author. Yeah uh Now see, uh, this is a huge topic uh But basically what see what like we studied in lifestyle evangelism also, right? We are called to share and There are people, you know the parable of the soul Uh, sometimes people will take it. Sometimes people will the enemy will come and uh, steal it Or it's not put in good ground uh, but Our responsibility is to continue to minister, right? You continue to teach continue to Just tell them Don't be afraid or don't be ashamed Right now, especially uh, said now during this season be wise in the way you do it Uh, but rely on the power of god rely on god's power and god will Really help you so Uh, of course, there's lots to say Uh, but just continue doing it The seed is sown if the seed is sown it will bear fruit right uh Why next question? Why would jesus obscure the truth from uh, you know by his parables? Why did jesus do that? Why do you think jesus did that he obscured the truth? Why didn't he just tell everyone, you know, this is how it is any thoughts Why did he obscure the truth from people? Why did he use parables? Why can't he just say things? And say it normally, you know, this is what i'm going to do Yes, yes said sir, uh Like you are asking like why jesus used the parables like uh, according to me the answer would be like Already in asaya and other books the prophecy was done like uh, messiah will come he will use parables to teach So like i think it was like because of the prophecies which were done Yes, that's yes. That's that's one of the reasons. Thank you so much said Yes, uh, zellie says he was creative god.  Thank you zellie Yes, one of the main reason was to fulfill prophecy, but two was also to Uh, you know the obscure the truth from those who felt they were they knew everything Right because sometimes people who knew everything they don't want to hear And the bible also says that you know another prophecy was they will hear but they they have years but they don't hear Uh, they cannot conceive the things of god Uh, but in some places jesus very plainly just spoke the truth. It's not like he was being suspicious every time No, so I am the way the truth and the life I am Before abraham was I am You come to me and I will give you this he was open about it, right? But there were times he spoke in parables at certain places At certain, you know, when he saw the uh, the audience he was able to make that decision, right? so Right. So any other questions any thoughts? Uh, we have a minute left If not, we can close in prayer all right Okay, so hope today was a good time. I really enjoyed this learning and I have so much to take from this as well so we close in prayer and Yeah, any one of us would like to close Yes, anybody please close in prayer Yeah, go ahead sir Father we come to the throne of grace lord. Thank you as we have learned from your word lord about preaching and teaching lord Whatever we have learned lord should not be wasted But it should be used effectively for your kingdom expansion and all glory be given to your lord Lord, whatever we do lord, whatever we say lord all the glorifiers should be given to your lord In jesus name we ask everything and god's people say amen. Amen. Amen. Thank you sir. Thank you everyone. Have a wonderful week ahead I'll see you next thursday God bless


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So I thought we'd sit down today because it's good to look at what's going on with your trading sometimes outside of market hours. So I thought we'd sit down and talk about you've been here now a week. I guess today's Monday. Yeah. So you've been here a week. So all in all, what have you learned since you've been here for the first week? Take trade sooner, to take out sooner, to close positions sooner. Exit, you mean? Yes, to exit. It's very difficult because generally I do exit when you call an exit. Then why are you saying that you think you're doing it sooner? Are you just not following me? No, no, I am following you. There are times when I have left them slightly longer but you've only got to be seconds longer to miss it when it bounces. So that is a slight difference. Right. It's not that. It's being able to, being here, being able to discuss things with you face to face. And I aim things out easier than you would if you were talking on screen. Like give me an example. That gap today. You wouldn't have done that? No, not the gap, not the trade. But when you analyze what you see, being able to stand next to you and say, I don't understand that. And you going through the whole process of what you see. The points you make. Yes, the point itself. Yeah. Not just the actual gap. Yeah. With it. Because to me it was doing what it should be doing within the rate as you categorize it. Right, right. But when you explained it, it put a different light on it. So you liked it more or less? No, I understood what you were saying by your explanation. Okay. Does that make sense? Yeah. Now when it fell into the open, does that scare you off when things fall more in the pre-market or does it make you like it more? From what I've learned from you, I like it more. Okay. Because it gives me more conviction that it is moving in the right direction. Okay, okay. So all the time I'm building more experience from what you look at and what you see and what you pick up first thing in the morning. Okay. Because that is ultimately, you can rate the gap as much as you want. But there are times when you actually turn around and say, no, I don't like this today or I don't like this for this reason. Okay. And it's generally just before the market. Actually. Even though we've rated this. Three seconds before. Yes. So that puts a different light on things. Okay.  Definitely. Take it, take it, take it. You know. Definitely more conscious of that. Yeah. Definitely because I'm sitting next to you. Yeah. And you're saying, take it out now. Have you taken it? Yes. Yes, it does. Yeah. Okay. That's good. Yes. So are you satisfied with your results here for the last week? Because on Friday when you left, we didn't do anything on Friday. And on Friday I got the feeling you were all worked up because you got out of that Netflix earlier in last week and that's what I wanted to talk to you about today. And you ended up having a good day today. You held the Google. You made out great. You could have made more in that. But again, it goes back to the same thing. What if you wouldn't have? I know. Stocks as today, it continued with the Google. Yeah. Could have made more. Yeah. You could have made twice as much almost. Yes. You could have made over $3,000, yeah, I think. Yes. Yeah. But does it bother you that you made whatever you made, $1,400 after the commissions or whatever it was, I don't know? I made $1,200. Oh, $1,200, okay. So does it bother you that you made $1,200? When you're taking into consideration that it's a Monday morning, I anticipated not doing anything today. Right. You did two things. From what I saw first thing when I started scanning. Right. So to pull in that first thing, yes, I'm happy about that. So how much did you end up making today? $1,800. Yeah, $1,600. No, with the two. Oh, no, okay. All right. So $1,600, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you're happy with that? Obviously. Obviously you want more. Obviously it would be good today. Who wants more? You want more? Yes, of course. You want to maximize a trade, don't you? You want to maximize it. But I'm quite happy with the day. Do you think that's possible, though? I mean, this was the whole point of last week's lecture. Do you actually think that it's humanly possible to always get out of a short at the low of the day and always get out of a long at the high of the day wherever that happens to be? Do you think it's humanly possible to do that every single solitary day, 200 plus trading days of the year, and get it right as often as a day? The short, the day trade, we took it out at the right time. That was, it was. It proved yourself. And occasionally I do do that. Yes. Yes, I do. And I say, this is it. It was perfect. Yeah, it was. Now, the Google trade, we weren't watching that. What it played out, if we watched the trade play out, right, may have actually given you more substance to continue with the trade and let it ride on. Or you might have missed the exit completely because you were in the day trade. Yes, you can't do both. That's why I told you to put the order out. Yes, they took me out. So yes, if you're just sitting there day trading. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the option takes you out in money, $1,200. Yeah. You can't complain of that. No, that's what I'm saying. But if you brought them down, you're doing them individually. Mm-hmm. And the day trade was done. Mm-hmm. Then you looked at the option to see what it's trading at in the market. Mm-hmm. You might, it might give you a different light on it. But this is, right, I'm trying to tell you though, you can play these more. You can do these options as day trades if you want to. You might have gotten back into the Netflix the day you got out of it and gotten out of it then at the end of the day or even the next day. Yes. You can be a little more nimble in those than you've been instead of holding them forever. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, I do. You can be, I'm trying to show you how you can play them a little bit better. Right. You don't always get a second exit in those. But I'm in a second entry to get a second trade in it to have a second exit. No, you might. Even the Great Baba had that. So you might get these and 50% of them. And then if you don't then you don't then you don't retake it and you're out with the money. So then you're out. Do you know what I mean? I think in my own mind it depends on where I am with the money situation. If I'm, if I'm comfortably in front then I will be more willing to let things play out a little longer. That makes sense again in a perfect world except for the fact that you don't know because tomorrow morning you could get up and the market could be gapping down because it's been running, running, running and it still could keep going but what if it doesn't for tomorrow's morning and then your stock acts down after you were up money and it sounds all great and you're in control and everything's fine and it looks good then something happens. And this is, this is the unknown factor that's involved with trading. That you have to take the money out when you're up. Yes. Yeah. It does not then relate to the trade and how long you're taking in time if you were at an option. If you had more time within that option and you were quite, well you had conviction that it was going to bounce a little then it was going to continue but you had plenty of time within your option to continue with it. Yes. But I want you to add a couple zeros on to these numbers here. It's easy to say but you know if you risk $20,000 instead of $2,000 in that trade, you say well I'll give it a little wiggly jiggly.  Do you know what I'm saying? Like add a zero on to the number and this is the same thing I tell the beginner people when they're taking 100 share lines and they get very frustrated and they feel the need to rush out of size add a zero to it. You'll see the money and you can't do that to get it right and that's what I'm trying to instill in you while you're here. But to me that relates to how much profit you're up to whether or not you cut the position down in size. So you're up say $20,000. You could cut out. Well if you want to start doing that you could do that now. No one's stopping you from doing that now. You could have got out of half of it Friday. You could get out of the rest today. You could have got half of it out in the morning today. Then do it but then you do it consistently. Don't change your mind everyone you're doing it.  Or you don't let it go under half. You need to decide. This is part of the thing with your day trading where you were back and forth with it. Get consistent. It doesn't matter to me which way you play it. Well I've tried to be consistent. Yeah. And the numbers that I've used. It's only when I've been hit too many times. Okay. Yeah. That's when I pull it back. Well you've got to cut it if it's not working in the half loss. Yes. That's what you're going to do going forward. You haven't had any losers though in those since you've been here. Netflix worked. You got out. Touch your nose. Touch your nose. Okay. Yes. Yes. Okay so getting back to what I was saying though. You're happy today with the money you made today. But in the last week are you do feel like you could have made more. Yes you could have. Yes. But when you use that example of 6,000 loss on the board the other day. Yes, yes. They all didn't tank. We wouldn't have lost 6,000. No, of course not. Because they pulled away. Yeah.  Yeah. So it's hard to, it's hard to put a perspective on the whole thing really. See your perspective is that my system works so well that you don't look at yourself with the possibility that you could lose 6,000. Good question. That's really the reality. Yes it is. Because the reality is that you could. Did you? No. Could you? You're saying these charts are so good. Melissa, this would ever happen. That's because of the way I taught you and the cause I'm giving. But I'm saying because you're thinking that way you're not taking it seriously enough about the money that you're up. And I want you to feel good about that. Because it's just not realistic that you will be perfect every day. Today at the exit in the morning the day trade was perfect. Today your exit in Google wasn't perfect. But you know what? It was half a point or 75 cents maybe off of you could have made more or one point off. You never know. Nobody can predict. That doesn't matter. It was a Monday. It was a Monday. I made $1,600 on the Monday. Yeah. So you made more money this week than you did in one day. Yes. Than you did last week. So guess what? This week's probably going to be a good week. Oh dear. Do a bit. No. It's probably going to be a good week because you're starting out very strong. Yes. Yes. I can see what you're saying. Yes. So like I said last week you were, now just follow me here with this rationale logic. And then I'll make my point. Last week you were feeling eh because you didn't hold the Netflix. He said no he didn't. Just let me finish. Friday we did nothing. Forced you to zip it. Today look what happened. So there's never any reason to feel like you missed out. Because the market will always give you then something good in return for doing the correct action. Yes. I always feel like that. I always feel like I will be rewarded if something like that happens. So you were upset last week. And I said don't be upset. And then you did the right action Friday. And then you did the right action today. And look at how it benefited you. So if you continue to do right actions it's going to come back around to you. It just will. Because the market kind of senses that with people. This is one of the reasons that people lose so much. They constantly take wrong actions. Even when they make money sometimes they take a wrong action. But they think it's a right action because they made money by double up. But that's not how you consistently profit in the market. You consistently profit by taking correct actions. Even if it means sometimes cutting a trade early. If it's the right action based on all the things that you had to make the decision in the first place. All the information you had. The market, you know, rallying a lot. You want to get a quick exit in the short, whatever. You take all the information and you make the best decision at the time. But as long as you take the correct action the market will see that you're doing that. And reward you over time. It's the people that don't get hit over the head with the market. So I'm telling you it will come back around. It just will. I'm just a little low to pull a position. I know, yes, you can pull a position when it's in profit. But not at the size that you want to pull it at. What do you mean a size? The profit. The profit's not really where you want it to be. This is what I'm trying to say. Where you want it to be. You can always be taking little bits, can't you? You can always take a little snippet out of the market. But when you get hit by a loss it can be bigger, can't it? It can't ever be bigger than what you risk. You risk $500. Say you're risking $500. Okay. You make two. You have another day. Yes. You make another two. Yes. On the third day you lose your five. Yes. Now how annoying is that? But you haven't been doing that. You've been averaging one hour at least since you've been here. On the day trades. Yes. You could have held that one little bit more. But I'm forcing you to get out before it bounces. Whatever day that was. I don't even know what day that was. Wednesday or Thursday. Yeah. I think it was Thursday. You did. Yes. And I forced you to get out and it kept going. Yes.  That's not the case. Even if you had, now just roll with me here. We figured it out this morning. I don't remember what you were up. 3,500, 3,100. You figured out the one number wrong. So whatever, 3,000. Even if you had two losses this week and lost $500 the next two days in a row, you'd still be up to grand. So I don't know where you're getting. It's in your head. You see, I split it as well. I class day trading different to the options. So the two are separate. I don't class it as a whole the way you're talking. You're talking as a whole. Yes. But I like to compare each to its own. I don't know if that's beneficial right now. Right now you have one objective. It's making money. Yes. It's a big whole of a pie. It's fantastic. I like it. Yeah. But I do like it to balance each side up by itself. Okay. Because to me, you get a better idea of how each side is working rather than just rolling it all together. I think you can make more money doing the options if you get better at holding them and seeing them well and plopping on the sides and killing the ones that aren't working right away faster but you're not there yet. But I'm trying to guide you there. You are. And I think that that's probably what you'll end up doing. And you did do some of those last year. I think you said you were up 40 grand or whatever at one point. Whatever. What was that month last year? August or September? Is the position being left? I would have been in Florida. Yeah. Yeah. So you definitely have the potential to make a lot of the money with the options. That's true. Yes. But in day trading, I think you can take more size. It's just you've got to get better at getting out and then you could go back to the size. Yes. Yes. I mean, if you could make two grand, if that was your R, at least day trades, you'd be very happy with these options. Very happy. I have made three and it's really nice. We're using the risk of a thousand. Right. Exactly. It's fantastic. That's an ideal situation for me. Yeah. If I pulled in three thousand. Yes. I would be very happy about that. Okay. Well, then that's your goal. If you want to prove to yourself, you can do some of these things that we had in the last week. Yes. So you're going to get there.  Yes, I do feel better. Good. Thank you. Yeah. So is there anything else you want to talk about before this week? I mean, I think this is a good start to the week. We had a good solid first week here. You've learned a lot. It's keeping that continuity. But you don't know because it's a trade.  That's good. But you don't know, do you? It's just a case of going with it every day and playing the trade out. Right. Being consistent in being trading every day is the same risk. Right. But you still don't know, do you, at the end of the day, if they're going to go to work? Did you just realize that like yesterday? When are you going up this morning? No. Are you been trading now for how long? No, no, no, no, no. But it's most annoying. I mean, we've had several. Just lately, maybe, you win a couple of days and then you lose another day. I mean, and it's been able to keep you frowned. Does it bother you, though, if we have five winning days and then you lose in Juniper? No.  No, five winning days. Or we're not four winning days. Whatever. And I have one loss at that. Like you can't get over that in your head. No, it's irritating. But this is what the market is. This is what trading is. You can't hang on to it. You're hanging on to Juniper or UA, whatever the last loss was from two weeks ago. You can't hang on to this. It's February. You can't hang on to things like this. I mean, we're going to talk tonight. It's going to be a good lecture about money. Maybe I'm wanting to steam ahead more. And it's just getting forward enough. Maybe that's the thing with me. Maybe I just don't feel as though I'm getting forward enough. What have you been getting forward enough? Profit enough. Profiting enough. Well, you pull back. The only way to get forward is to take more size. If you feel like you're ready, I'm not going to stop you. But if mentally you're not, then don't do it. What's the most important thing for you right now? To be consistent and feel comfortable and relax and learn something here and make money. Or to plow forward at all costs. What if we have four winning days and you make 10 grand and they have one losing day and you lose 2500? I mean, will you be upset? No. Well, then plow forward. I'm not stopping you. Not in that situation. Yeah. But I mean, any situation could happen. One day could be a win. One day could be a loss and the next three could be wins. If you can't get back on the wagon after the one win, then it's going to be problematic. See, I can do that. If you can, then you're not ready to plow forward. Tomorrow you could take more size and tomorrow could be a loss, but then the rest of the week could be huge wins. Will you be able to get back on the horse then on Wednesday if you lose on Tuesday? I don't know, you know. One loss is all right. One loss is quite comfortable. Okay. Even at 1000, one loss is comfortable. Well, then why are you talking about a loss that happens weeks ago? It's when you get several day after day. But you hide behind that. You haven't been doing that. No, no, no, no.  So you're scared that it's going to happen? I'm not scared. I'm not scared about that. I'm not scared about losing. It's just the plain fact of the matter. When you up your risk, it's very comfortable to be making for several days. Yes. Then losing a day. Yes. As opposed to dipping your foot into the water. Well, then you're just from that point, you're not ready to increase your sizing. You're not ready to do it. When you don't even think about that, then you'll be ready to do it. Which you're not. And I don't know when that is. Hopefully it'll be during the time that you're here. But I'm just saying you're not then or it wouldn't be bothering you. You will not make money in every trade that you take. I've been training for eight years. I still have days that I lose. This is what it is. I don't think you ever get to a point where you're okay with that. I can say this because I know that I'm not. But I try to just not think about it. I do other things. I really do a good job trying to think about other things. And I have an amazing ability to be able to shrug something off and just pick myself up and move forward and act like nothing ever happened. I mean, I really can do that extremely well. Actually, my old broker told me she's never seen anyone like me be able to do that. So, you know, you really have to get to that point. And it's just going to be experience. I'm quite comfortable taking it. And I have taken the risk. And I have lost on the risk. But you've got to be able to get up as if it never happened. I can. Because at the same time... But you wouldn't be talking about it here with me if you could. No, I'm just weighing everything up because of the fact that you... it's that consistency striving forward. But I do... I can take the risk and I can take the loss. And it's literally drop everything, the machine and do something different. Okay. Then come back the following day. Yeah. And it's because of staff to gain. I have done that several times. I know. You wouldn't be here. On a thousand risk. Yeah. I know. You wouldn't be here. Yeah. So, you are doing it. But I'm saying you're doing very well. Why are you worried about losing? You've made me every day as you're here. So, what are you worried about?