So, without further ado, are you ready, Alex, Oki Doki, and the microphone, or are we going to... There we go. Okay, can you hear me right now? Perfect. Good. I'm not that used to speaking with Mike, but okay. Okay, we can see things on screen. So, getting your plugins ready for the new WordPress directory. Before I start, who's familiar with this? Okay, good. And who's familiar with this? Good. So, in a couple of days, you will all get familiar with that one, no matter if you like it or not, because it's coming live this month. Or, to be honest, I have this slide since January, and it's still true. But sooner or later, it will happen. And the changes are huge. It's not only about look and feel. It's also about all the entire mechanics. So, no matter you use plugin directory in order to find extensions, plugins for your website, or you are a plugin developer and you want to make sure that users can find your extensions in moments when they need things like this and they can find you using certain keywords, this talk should be helpful for you, or at least that's what I hope. So, what's new? The first thing is that it's all about the keyword search. So, you will no longer have a field for outer search or tag search. Keyword search was the most popular one by far, so it's not surprising. But in the new interface, you will just have, instead of this small field up there that you can choose between keyword tag and outer, you will have just the one filled for the search tag, and that will look for keywords. So, in this case, sorting is a very important thing, because the way things are ordered will impact the way people will choose plugins, because as we know, there are many plugins in WordPress directory, almost 50,000 of them. 50,000, no, 50,000, sorry. Am I right? Yeah, numbers in English were always difficult for me, sorry. So, what we see is that plugins has been sorted in a completely different way. And we've been working within WordPress plugin directory a lot on tweaking the new search engine and ways of different elements. And as you can see here, that's the comparison of search results for the same phrase, and two in the old and the new directory. The things in blue do not exist on the list, on the old list, and the thing in green has moved within the list. As you see in the top ten for the same phrase, you have eight new things. And I have checked that with many other phrases, and it seems like that's the trend. So, it's difficult to judge whether those plugins are better answer or worse answer to the query that user has stated, but you should be aware of the fact that it's a serious change. Like if you were trying to optimize your plugin before for the old search engine, then you need to start doing it from scratch for the new one. I've told you that there is no search, tag search. However, actually there is, it's just a little bit hidden. Like if you go to the new plugin view, single plugin view, and you click on one of those tags, you will see the list of extensions that use this tag. So it's possible it's just hidden. Then there is an outer search. Yeah, didn't I told you that it's gone? It is gone like there is no field in the interface, but still you can use URLs in order to get this, to get information about plugins of a certain outer. That's the outcome that you will see if you paste the lower URL on to the browser. Then that was there, that were the changes that are coming to the list of plugins, but there are also many changes in the single plugin view. That's the old one. So stats are gone. You won't be able to see stats anymore. Installation information will also not be there. There will be no compatibility information. I think actually nobody was using it anyway, so that's a good one. There will be no links to the older version of plugins. However, this one, that's why there is mastery at the very end, because this one is still being discussed within the plugins team, so there is chance that this will come back in one of the future versions. But as of now, there are no links to older versions of plugins available. So another thing is that there are changes to, well, the other thing that will be impacted here is the embedded plugin directory, because, as I'm sure you're all familiar with, except for the web version of plugin directory, we have the one that is embedded into our WordPress dashboard, and every WordPress dashboard. And the look and feel will stay as it was, so you can use it in exactly the same way. However, the search results will be provided through the new API, which means that the search results will be coming from the new search engine. So the look and feel will stay as it was. However, the results and the order of them will come from the new search engine. And that's the reason why we still have attack-based search and outer search available through URLs and through API, because we need that in order to maintain compatibility with embedded plugin directory. So as of now, the only changes to embedded plugin directory will be the ordering and the plugins that are being returned from the query. Look and feel stays as it is. Good, so how we can optimize the plugin? What we can do to get ready for this change. Here is my list of ideas that you can implement. First, gather your download data in a different way. If you are a plugin developer, you probably have already seen that actually the information on downloads that you get from this chart that is available in the old version of plugin directory is not very accurate, because it counts new downloads and updates as same thing. So it's actually not the real information on how many downloads you have. So I suggest dig deeper into that and look for different ways to gather statistics. I've been working for a long time with this when I was having my own plugins in the repository, so I can give you some tips on that, how you can retrieve the data of the actual number of downloads from the sources that you have. And I know that there are many different ideas, but it's like we're getting closer to the moment that you won't be able to retrieve this data from WordPress.org. However, there is one change that I'll show you in a minute that may be a small help in this. Then I think that's the part that is known by now to almost everyone. There will be only five tags per plugin in the new repository, which means that that will be the first five that you have in your readme.txt file. So if you have more than five of them, then you should definitely change the order so that the most important five will be at the beginning of the readme.txt file. Then as I told you, the installation tab is gone. So if your plugin requires some special installation procedure, then you should definitely move this to frequently asked questions section. And just write a question like, how do I install this plugin?  And we've lost screen. And we're back. Perfect. Maybe that was me. So if there is some special installation procedure, it's not like just go to your WordPress dashboard and install it. That's the place to put some information about it. Then compatibility. If there are some compatibility issues within your plugin, you should definitely put that somewhere in the description because there will be no information on compatibility anymore, as I've shown you. Statistics. There will be no statistics available except for a number of active installs for the end user. So if you want to brag about it, then again, brag about it in the description. And one tiny thing about the authors. As you may be able to see it somewhere here. Let me just move back. Yeah. The authors here are not the same authors as all contributors to plugin. There is a special tag called authors header, I guess. I can remember it correctly. And you need to set that one to put the name of authors that will be shown on the plugin list. So if you don't have that one already, that's another handy thing to do before the new plugin repository comes in place. Okay. Getting back to our list. And then there's one extra thing on top of it. There is an admin view for extension developers. Here's that brand new thing. Stats are back in there as of now. I can't guarantee that they will state her, but as of now they are there. But it's only available for plugin admins. So your regular users won't see that. You can. But that's all we have right now. And as I've told you, those downloads per day count both download and updates. So that's not the information on how many people have tried your plugin. Because every time somebody updates your plugin, it counts as downloads. And that's the fact that if you're not familiar with that one, you should remember this one as a takeaway. Okay. So my big ask to you is to help us test the new plugin repository. And no matter you are a user or a plugin developer or a website developer, we need your input. Because we've been working with that for a long time. We're trying to make it better. But we are aware that there are many things that should be improved in there. So that's why we're looking for your input. Go to WordPress.org slash plugins dash wp and provide your feedback. Tell us what's wrong. And my plugin is not shown at certain keywords on the first place. It's not a valid input. But every other is. And please do help us. Because we want to make this tool better than the previous one. And without your input, it's difficult to see whether you find it helpful or not really. Like whether you find more interesting search results thanks to that or you find more of a crap. So do tell us what you think. Okay. My name is Alexander Kuczek. And I turn web development businesses into money-making machines. If you want to get slides from this presentation, I will tweet link to them shortly on Twitter. Thank you. Okay, Bernard's going to go around with the microphone now. So if you have any questions, hands in the air. I've got one over here on the right, Bernard. Hey, Alexander. Thanks for that. Really interesting. There was some talk about a year ago. It might have actually been at this work camp where the results that were returned, that some of the older plugins that hadn't been updated for say like two or three years, might be deprioritized in the results. Has there been anything implemented in that respect? Well, that's a very hard topic, I must say. And current state is that all plugins are there, no matter they are old or not. But if something has not been updated in the last two years, it position will be decreased significantly. So unless you're looking for something very rare, or you're going, or you're looking for, or you will go to the very last page, you won't see the old plugins. I think there's a hand here as well. Hi. I work for Outlandish and we produce WP Packagist, which is the composer repository for WordPress plugins, kind of a wrapper for it. Are there any changes under the hood in the way that the new repository presents plugins over SVN or there's this kind of thing? Or is it simply just a cosmetic change to the way the interface works and the way the sorting algorithm works? Okay. If I understood your question right, you're asking whether we have changed something within the way we organize plugins or the search engine itself. It's more in terms of how the plugins are stored in the large SVN repository. No, we keep it exactly the same way as it was. Actually, you can go now and see the new version and it's based on exactly the same data we have from the old repository. Both interfaces and both search engines use exactly the same data. So we are using the same structure, but for example, as I've mentioned with the tags, we're using it in a different way. The old repository was taking all information about tags and the new one is taking only the five more recent. But it's still the same SVN and in this case nothing has changed. Good. Any more questions? Just to clarify as well, the author kind of header tag, I mean obviously there's the contributors tag that you can set in the plugin header. Is that the same thing or is this a completely separate tag? I think it's outer slash header. I think that's the name of the tag that you should be looking for. Hands up. Any more questions? One at the back on the left, Ernit. Hi, I was just wondering, you've removed quite a bit of information from the interface like installation instructions, but also compatibility info. I was wondering what the reasoning behind those choices is, if you know. Well, I ask this to my senior team members quite often, I must say, and for some of those the reason is obvious, like nobody will hardly anyone is using compatibility information. We don't have data there, so it's just an in space that is being used there. In terms of installation information, the reasoning behind that was that most of the plugins can be used... Well, installation is pretty simple. You don't need an special instruction to install a plugin. And if you need one, the frequently asked questions would be the better place to go. So the idea was that they started, before I joined with a blank page, and they start to fill in with the elements, not looking at the old directory, but thinking what actually is needed and useful, and then they've discussed the missing, or we have discussed the missing parts and decided on the faith of some small things that will be gone. Thanks to that we have way clearer interface, but of course it's also, there are information that are missing, and that's correct. Hi, I've got another question, sort of related question. Given that the compatibility information is not there, and as you say, presumably you got information that nobody was selecting from the dropdown and checking whether the plugin was compatible with them, is there going to be a recommended or guidance on how to express compatibility issues in the readme? It's particularly for plugin authors who perhaps English isn't their first language. So a way to make sure that users know this plugin will not work if you're on version 4.5, for example. Well, if I were you, I wouldn't expect any official guidance from the WordPress plugin team, but I think there will be some trend and people will start to follow it. If the big players will start to put the information about the compatibility in a certain way, then others will follow. However, I hope that again for most of the plugins that won't be the case, because they're just compatible with everything we have. And they have backward compatibility and they are compatible with the new version. So that's, again, I hope that it will work in that way, and the compatibility information will be more if you're compatible only with certain databases or you need a certain version of PHP that is higher than the base WordPress requirement. So I think that will go more for this than for compatibility with certain WordPress versions, because WordPress is going into that trend that every plugin should be compatible with every modern WordPress version. I hope that answers your question. Perfect. Any more questions, or may I go home? I see that you say that they might be removing the previous versions, the previous revisions. What happens if somebody updates a plugin and it actually breaks and you need to roll back to previous version? Well, you still have an access to SVN, I guess, but it's like you don't have links on the page because that's, again, this WordPress trend that we should all be updated and we should all run the newest version of WordPress and the newest version of plugin, and it should be working. I know it's not always the case and I see it regularly, so that may be the thing, but that's the way WordPress goes, and we want everyone, maybe in a few years, there won't be even an update button. Everything will update seamlessly, and we all would like to make that happen and make sure it won't break websites, but there is still a long way ahead of us to get there. We, yeah, just a follow-up of that. We have several problems with, you know, tags being deleted from the plugins directory, so we install using WP packages and then we point to a certain version and then, I don't know, the plugin updates to version 1.6 and we still want 1.5 and then 1.5 doesn't exist anymore. Oh. And then when we run composer update, boom. Like, so I think we, I don't know, I don't know, might be for, you know, for search purposes, use the last five-tag version, but not delete the old ones from there. Never delete the tag version from SVN. Yeah, there is no reason to delete any versions from SVN. That's the purpose of SVN, to keep all the versions there. I'm just saying that there won't be links displayed, but you should, if you are a plugin developer, obviously you should keep all the old versions there and don't remove them. Yeah, that's a very good point. Sorry to harp on about this one because I think losing the easy ability to roll back to get an old version of a plugin is going to be a huge minus. So my question is, if the tags are still there, will the automatic zip still be there as well? So if you can work out what the URL is going to be for a previous version, will you still be able to download that zip just because the link's missing from the page? Yeah, that's only links missing in the page. Like, we're talking about the interface change. Okay. But as I told you, there is a huge discussion whether that should be back or not. So I will bring this feedback to the next meeting on Wednesday and tell them that you insist you need them. Thank you. And I hope this will help. Sure, even if it's just the last three, four, five, something like that, I think would be helpful. Thank you. I'll do my best. You know, I'm a junior member there, so I don't have much to say, but I'll do my best to bring that case there. Plus one for that. I think it's pretty crazy to think that everyone's going to be happy interacting with kind of SVN and stuff. You've got a whole, like, millions of users, frankly, that would be pretty uncomfortable or not even aware of that system, frankly. So, in fact, not just plus one, plus 100 to keeping the old links, because, frankly, I think you are going to end up with real trouble with that in the future, so please keep it for the users. I'll do my best. I promise. Okay. No pressure. Yeah? If you will, yeah. If you have any more specific questions or questions related to your own plug-in or your own use case, you will be able to find me around. I'll be in the happiness bar for sure if you want to ask anything. And thank you for your time.


of TFNN the power trading hour with your host David White call now toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER> now David White there we go just a second there we go you know when you get it right welcome to another excellent edition of the power trading hour with me your host who always wants you to be here at this particular time the following takes place between 2pm and 3pm well I didn't have so much as a number picked out as a time and that was somewhere around the apple dog and pony to find some kind of low for the week doesn't mean that we're gonna actually go right up from here but I suspect that we probably are gonna find some kind of decent low for the week as I said before options market makers have really not blinked through the last four or five days they've always thought that 45-25 to maybe 45-50 is where the markets gonna expire for expiration on Friday so I've been looking for some kind of catalyst really trying to figure out what the market is concerned about here in the last couple of days is something that would go away or is it just something that is a existential crisis going forward I know there's a lot of stuff to always be worried about in the market I don't see a great deal of that of anything different other than a bit of a pullback but we'll continue to keep kind of an eye on it but just looks like kind of a little bit of a September sell-off where a lot of different stocks are sold off and others are bought and that sets up positions for the fall many people talking about the Fed actually starting to tape or some since just two weeks ago it lasted all of three days before they jumped right back in it's kind of hard for me to believe that they're going to want to get their hands slapped once again so viciously by the market we are pulling back you know off of what a hundred points off the highs or so in the S&P right now we're down 16 or 17 and the volumes you know you keep an eye on it to see what's happening today the differences the volumes are tracking right now maybe a billion and a half shares shorter and maybe two billion for the day shorter by the end of the day so volume has kind of decreased out here as I said before if I'm going to think real bearish on the market I mean significantly more than you know just a handful of days as we've had before I'd want the market to rally once again and still have very light volume but my guess is a lot of what we're seeing now is out with the old and then we're probably going to go to seeing what's in with the new and that's the stocks that will do well going into the fall depending on what most of the people think that it's going to do I thought the market was worried about 9 11 then I thought kind of worried that it was worried a lot more about Apple today doesn't look like that's changed much was kind of surprised to see the market bounce as hard as it did off of the numbers at 8 30 this morning which I didn't think a lot of people had been talking about or looking at about it all you kind of have this dark cloud over the top of everybody of the of a giant tax bill that would certainly gut the stock market so I can understand people talking about a potential huge pullback in the market I just wonder whether or not there is a political will to commit Harry carry because you're what about a year away from the next midterms and my guess is if you'd want to pull the the rug on the market now there's going to be hell to pay in a year I think a lot of people would think differently in the cold light of day may sound good to eat the rich but generally and those people that give lots of money to political parties get it from somewhere and if that's taken by the government before you can get it it's not fairly easy to get it so I don't know when it's all said and done my guess is it doesn't amount to a great deal but I can see how some people are worried you know if you did have a doubling of of the tax rates for long-term holds and even more on short terms could be a big deal you see the overall burden in states like New York over 70 70 and a half percent if this would go through as written today so there's not any not reason to be concerned but I put kind of a low prio probability on it actually seeing the cold light of day and getting signed probably maybe I've been wrong on this it is a political issue again but it's hard for me to actually believe that as a matter of trying to predict the market but yeah if it went through I think how many people in the rest of the world would want to come and invest their money here in the United States I think it would be significantly less I also think that maybe a lot of people would get out now instead of wait till later of course one of the biggest moves ever in the market was based on even lowering taxes and that was back in 1999 and 2000 and in that case everybody was holding their positions to sell at a much lower rate generally the thought is that everybody would exit as quickly as they could now to pay a lower rate than wait until next year so it's always those unintended consequences of government action that you're never quite sure of because again they don't always play out the way we think that they will but the question is how fast would the market leave if we had confiscatory rates for capital gains and I suspect toot the sweet is my answer I've been watching a question in the den is whether or not anything's really going on an apple and so far no there's a lot of little stuff in there but it my thought was that normally these things run about an hour and a half so we're probably getting fairly close to the end of what's going on let's just take a quick look at apple and see if it's done anything just seem like more of the same it's off a buck 50 148 10 is the last I see so not a lot in that we're waiting there was a rumor that we'll talk about when we return are you grinding in the market but seeing little to no return or are you 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there's a little follow-through right now thinking that there wasn't some kind of big overarching fit feature that actually is going to drive people to buy iPhones but hey maybe it's not done quite yet um yeah we're bouncing around here i've got is that negative 17 now negative 22 okay uh two two two what else do we have okay and for oh we want to do a little history and then we want to move on and it's all just a little bit of history repeating on this day in 1814 francis scott keypence a poem which is later set to music and in 1931 becomes americans national anthem the star spangled banner the poem originally titled the defense of fort mchenry was written after key witnesses in aral and fort being bombed by the british during the world uh war of 1812 uh key was inspired by the side of the lone us flag still saw uh flying over uh fort mchenry at daybreak as reflected in the now famous words of the star spangled banner and the rocket's red glare the bombs bursting in air gave proof through the night that our flag was still there and of course uh what you don't know is where the music came from uh the underlying uh music uh came from a fairly rybald uh to do drinking song much a line of uh or along the lines of the uh famous uh uh women from nantucket uh kind of things uh very rybald at the time uh but uh yeah the music 19 was it not 19 18 maybe 1650s drinking songs along the wharfs of uh england many sailors uh bars and taverns um i'm used to hear i i one time i heard the uh the actual lyrics and they don't sound that bad today but apparently back then wow a big no no so uh now you know the rest of the story now you know the rest of the story and what else let's kind of let's go to some charts out here today uh kind of go out here uh i haven't updated this for a second so let's go ahead and take a look at this uh coming back into what should be support um some fairly decent uh volume uh today in a down candle uh i think it'll be a great deal of we should have huge support at these levels so the end of the day will probably tell us a lot um 441 and we'll call it 442 on the s and p cash so we'll keep an eye on it but uh i don't have anything in the indexes i've been waiting uh for a buy for options into friday because i think we're going to have a fairly decent turnaround at least uh if the volumes continue well i haven't seen is a lot of people shorting this move back down generally the big sign to find a bottom is that uh question on the follow up from yesterday where i said amd had a fairly decent looking low two reasons uh one the energy up from august 19th uh to august 30th uh compared to the that uh august 30th high back into yesterday's low uh was off by about 20 a little over 20 percent uh for the energy on the way up to the way back down and you also had a 71 million share low from august 19th tested not all the way but close enough for a scar on uh just 38 million shares in fact you didn't have much in the way of volume at the end of the close because i think we had 30 million when we were talking about it during my show so uh actually a fairly good one and uh holding up fairly well today what did i say to 10621 so you have your bounce i'd love it to come back under 105 and see a lot of heavy shorting tonight maybe even tomorrow and then try to see if there isn't something because it's kind of looked a bit bullish over the last couple of expiration fridays uh but uh hadn't really had the big movement out here got another question from ralph about uv x y and what's going on with this um you know you had a kind of a nice day on the 10th hold back a little bit the problem you have right now is that uh the uv x y is based on the vixx and the vixx is based on two different time um oscillators i think what is it the i want to say it's on the 24 and the 36 days sounds right to me i'd have to go back and look at the paper again uh anyway i wrote a little model out here and the problem is that if uh the way that those two things uh react those two different time frames react you can have still a lot of decay and my in what i'm doing is the decay looks fairly bad in the vixx which is translated into the options on the futures of the vixx which ends up being the uv x y and you end up seeing you know for a next couple of days even though you might have some big moves and a lot of people worrying about it you really haven't had the big entry into that for volume which one signals a low and probably just as much sand signals a high so you know i'd love to see something other than yesterday where we have kind of a doji that ended up not doing anything today uh they don't like songs like they used to that's good okay uh other things going on that i wanted to bring up um i've talked about this one for six months uh and that is uh these uh herbal life uh finally blew up today and it took forever it's looked horrible for a long time um i'm not one to bet on earnings uh too much uh but i knew it didn't either 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movie actor or something like that i think that may be the the the small legal difference but certainly uh unless you listening to am radio you're probably not listening to those ads pushing a lot of different supplements certainly herbalife had two problems one was that the second one was it was always considered to be by many a multi-level platform and if you've ever sat down with a spreadsheet for more than five minutes it doesn't take you to figure out that multi-level marketing uh mathematically can never work so you're always having to drag new folks in eventually that model doesn't work anymore and it all goes away um of course you know that two years of fighting and was it david einhorn or was it another one can't remember these guys i haven't watched uh infotainment tv for uh stock trading for a long time occasionally catch it but i haven't watched it very serious in the last few years uh anyway um it was who is the other one i icon carl icon and the other one yeah i oh it was ackman an icon okay anyway they fought over it for a number of years you knew it was eventually probably going to zero it's just uh in the meantime uh can you take somebody out to the woodshed like ackman and in the end um icon school ackman um but uh guess who schooled everybody else and that was the people that watched that uh uh what would you call it not a hoot nanny um episode of a stock market adventures and thought hey why can't we do that uh we'll just form our own roving gangs on uh robin hood and uh and uh reddit and we'll do the exact same thing that icon did to ackman so we kind of have that going on but we haven't heard much about it lately i suspect because a lot of the ring leaders of those robin hood and reddit things have been uh looked at very heavily by the us government and uh leaned on a little bit that uh the big guys don't like it i don't think that there's for the most part i didn't think of there was a lot in there that was illegal uh but certainly you don't hear about the big guys uh uh anymore in these meme stocks really clean and house occasionally it happens but uh certainly you don't see about it on the tv or the major news that actually covers uh stock markets but anyway um a lot of people think well uh the stock is the company and these are pretty good lessons to learn that just because the company is uh maybe another inron it may take four or five years for those things to actually come out in the wash when they do uh they're generally fairly brutal uh my prognosis for herbal life for a long time has been at least a retest of this 20 low back on march 17th in 2020 um and i think you can get there there's just not that much there there uh but certainly you're breaking now um and may break this august 28th low you need 10 million shares by the end of the day 4301 for august 28th 2020 uh that opens up really the move down to 25 and then uh 20 and 73 cents for that march 17th 2020 low so keep an eye on that i'd like that to consolidate out some people get back in it uh but not a real big fan of being in the industry of selling supplements especially also putting those together with multi-level marketing a lot of claims when they went to court no one really lost any money on that although they i guess get to say that it's not a pyramid scheme but uh i'll always consider it that but that's my opinion anyway you're down you're gonna have lots of volume you have more than 10 you can break 4301 um and there are a lot of gaps to fill all the way down to 25 on that other stocks out here that are having a bad hair day not a day to start off the day week already which is when it's down 11 percent uh when resorts uh look at that volume uh you're going back after a five million share low that's the august 19th low with 4.8 million shares with 21 or 22 million shares are ready so you've got kind of that going on there's some bigger gaps down here i don't know if this sticks um 81 ish should be fairly decent support uh at that level maybe you start consolidating out and that making a big difference but of course i didn't get to look through the news i would suspect that since uh it's standing room only in las vegas this has a lot more to do with what's going on in mcow okay it's the electric slide jimmy uh tm circle with an r and uh something else copyright gotta put that on there um okay we're down 30 points on the s and p cash question on the tlt from arnold and see what he has to say um anyway uh thanks for the uh heads up michael for my loot's colorado um he came right back up to the highs of august 4th that 18 million shares you had 12 so far today i don't know if this is a lot more than a big trading range i know the feds kind of trying to keep it going much higher uh and uh kind of stalls into it gets in the back to about 148 149 they tend to throw some money but uh looking for that fed juice uh probably thursday yet again this week uh they haven't shut that spicket off are you in the market for 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this week looks like supports actually fairly good here you had a day where it bounced off had a lot of volume on the way up today volume is about half of what it was lately normally what you're looking for in these open gaps is to fill about half of it or go to the double gap so your targets out here for possible plays would be about 580 i'm going to say 580 yeah 575 ish uh would be you know a great buy if you're along this thing i don't know if you ever get that but generally uh 575 is where you could take a swing if that fails probably about 510 520 is that next double gap which would be the next support but during expiration week you came down you had on the 10th a little less than 700 000 shares today get 451 you had 900 000 yesterday so i'm not seeing a lot that says it's going to blow out options really don't show a big blowout now maybe that changes tonight and everybody actually does start thinking the market at least the option market makers start thinking we're headed lower but if that changes a lot then i'll change my mind but i'm not going to see that data tell probably five or six tonight but i don't see a lot out here that doesn't say that we still don't get a fairly nice bounce by the end of the week the big thing is just waiting for the whites of their eyes and not taking a leap i haven't added any option positions for friday quite yet but yeah i would say halfway through the gap is where you want to look at that gap up is on the 26 uh if halfway breaks then you're probably going to that 520 much lower okay we've got some more stuff coming in here across the transom i was going to tell you i was going to talk like a sailor bow stern deck talking like a sailor okay what else do we have okay got a couple of those quick tour in flx through this again like i said i suspect that we are setting up we can set up for some big moves down but that big move down or larger move down would be more likely uh in the next week we've got two days now underneath the netflix uh three by three what you'd like it to do is have a couple of days of a rally maybe back up to 600 and then the next tick down would generally be the one that would say that it could come all the way back to 535 ish is probably where i would look for that if you get a double repo pattern in fact uh good to hear uh jody nappley uh on uh larry pesavento's show today he's rather bearish as is anybody that could listen to that show uh would say um i'm gonna wait until i get some more proof i know that there's a lot of fundamental problems out there and there's a lot of things we can look at i don't see a lot in the charts quite yet and generally you see it in the charts before you actually see it happen so i'm not a big bear here in fact i think i can make more money in a couple of day trades uh going forward at the end of this week that i can being adding any new positions here today but we shall see uh go back and check on this okay yeah off 27 on the sp cash down 70 on any day i don't think anybody would say a great deal about that but uh since we've been up everybody's of course uh kind of freaked out a bit uh two what else do we have out here we did win we did uh herbal life we looked at amd uh the question about twitter from anthony tw atr and of course uh you want me to look at anything just email me at path at tfnn.com um i'm not a big fan of twitter for a long time i think you're coming back to the 4912 the idea that they were going to uh have newsletters on the thing and make a bunch of money hasn't really gone anywhere they still fight to uh i want to say monetize a lot of what they're doing and of course they're facing a lot of lawsuits going forward and of course uh i also have a question about apple i wrote about it yesterday in the tech insider because it's more of a long-term thing uh but the decision on friday for apple i think the real uh deep side uh deep meaning of what happened a lot of people are saying both sides lost uh epic didn't prove antitrust and i'm going to say they didn't go far enough because the judge uh actually said you know what if you would have just done a little bit more work on that android trust i probably would have ruled in your favor and if anybody else is going to sue apple for the same thing go ahead and throw a little bit more on there because i think you got i've got a big whiff of it here as a judge uh there's antitrust you just didn't do enough so i think uh there's a little bit more than just apple not having a a great day-to-day with a new product rollout i think there's a little bit of that overhead and kind of a weekend market we're down uh what $2.20 on apple now so that's going to be tough on the indexes to come back uh two two two okay and let's see what we got here question about snap we haven't looked at that one for a while snap and we're going to go to scott in uh denver right now how you doing scott doing great how are you day good you got about 30 seconds before the break alibaba and some of these chinese stocks what are you thinking uh certainly uh if you get a decent low out here um the chart looks good i would say that you know if you want to see these stocks really take off if we get some kind of confiscatory capital gains change i think a huge amount of the money in the united states going to china right now this chart does look very good i'd like a little bit lower but 89 million shares being tested by a little under 15 right now not so bad sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument you have to practice sure but you also need excellent instruction from experts at tfnn you'll get advice and guidance from the authority and technical market analysis and it's not just dry tedious text either tfnn airs live financial content streamed live on tfnn.com and tfnn's youtube channel with tiger tv live every market day from 8 30 a.m to 4 p.m eastern for free each host is an experienced trader and gives their take on 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uh you know these things are untradable again something like that so i'd take that i'd take the calls on it but i don't think i'd go the act i wouldn't go in the equity or an etf or anything else i might be trapped in and take the whole loss but uh i'll tell you what you've got me looking at this for a friday play off for expirations this does look fairly good i'm seeing some other stuff uh look that well too we talked about amd the other day um that's also down with fairly light volume another kind of day to day uh but uh you know there's a few of them out there that look fairly good so but i'm kind of not making real long-term calls on this i'm kind of saying shorter term like i said if we're really going to head down probably going to get a bounce that bounce will probably be late this week and in the next week and then you probably see some bigger failures mark generally it just doesn't give up one huge uh time okay gotcha thank you very much we'll be back tomorrow same bat channel 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Hey everybody, this is Christian Buckley with another MVP Buzz Chat interview and I'm here today with Melissa and thanks so much for being with me. Yeah, thank you very much for having me.  Yeah, cool. So I'm Melissa Houghton and I'm a lead software engineer at a company called Azenix where tech consultancy and I'm based in Australia. So it's a tech consultancy here in Australia, but I am originally from California. So I was born and raised in California, went to university there as well. I've done a lot of my tech here here in Australia. How'd you find yourself down there? I mean, I'm jealous, although I have to admit I'm more of a New Zealand guy. I've been so many times to both, but I prefer New Zealand. But yeah, how'd you get your get find yourself down in Australia? My parents moved over to Australia when I was doing my degree in California. So I finished my degree and I was, you know, why not go live in another country type of thing? They've sent me back to California and I've stayed behind. That was kind of a bait and switch. Yeah. Well, very cool. So what is the company specialized in? I mean, services company, but what's the kind of the overview? Yeah, well, we actually specialize in Microsoft technologies. So it's all about dotnet and Azure, you know, which fits well into the MVP Microsoft space. I'm a big fan of all those technologies. And I specifically focused on dotnet myself and in general application development. So I do work with other languages as well, like Angular and, you know, learning a bit of laser at the moment and some dotnet Maui too, which is really exciting. Very cool. Yeah. And I know that you're very active on the community side. You know, what it's a, well, first kind of two things, like what you've been doing in the community. What's also been going on with the community down in Australia? Because I, my, talking with people, of course, my company has offices in Melbourne and I think Sydney as well and people all over the place.  And, you know, but so what's kind of the state of the community? What's been your involvement down there? Yeah. So I help organize a few different things here. So one of them is a big tech conference called DDD, which is all like general tech for developers, designers, data, whatever you want it to be. And we do usually have around like 100 people on a big conference space. So that one hasn't been able to run the last two years now. So last year and we've cancelled it for this year as well. But we still are running little what we call DDD by night events. So they're almost like the small user group online. We're doing them online events. But I also help run the melb.net meetup. So it's another user group. And that one we've been doing pretty much all online over Zoom. But we've started trying to do them hybrid if the restrictions allow. So we've had two successful hybrid ones where we have it on Zoom, but then we also have a small space where people can come together if they're in the area. And we'll broadcast it from there. If there's in-person speakers or online speakers, we'll broadcast to the room. So trying to get a bit of a mix to help everyone. And actually having the hybrid method helps for when restrictions pop back up again. We have to go into lockdown again. We can just go straight to full on Zoom. So it's kind of being on your toes and ready to change at any time. That's a great question. There's an event that I'm going to be doing here in three weeks. It will be my first in-person event this year. We actually met a very small crowd in August last year. So it's the North American Clab Summit, which is in Branson, Missouri. I don't know if you've been to that part of the U.S. It's actually tough to get there from the west. You have to go east and fly over generally to get back to Branson. But anyway. And so this will be the second year of us doing a hybrid. And we got, so we had very low in-person numbers last year, obviously. It should be bigger now as things open up in the U.S. But we got rave reviews for the hybrid session. And the thing that we did, like the one best practice was having a person in the room that was paying attention to the questions being asked online and being the voice in the room, which was fantastic. I know any other best practices or things that you learned from your online sessions that are moving the hybrid? Yeah, I guess because the meld.net user group that I run is relatively small and, you know, we're all volunteers and stuff. So that thing that we've had the, I guess, toughest time with is figuring out the tech. So you got to make sure you have at least some sort of way to do some of the mixing. We've just used an app on the phone at one point, because yeah, we don't have all the fancy tech around. And that makes it so that you can have the Zoom call going with people talking and have the people in the room with sound as well. So it's not overlapping. There's no echoes and all that stuff. So figuring out the sound, I would say is the best thing. And definitely, yeah, having someone there reading the questions in the chat and conveying them to the people in the room and vice versa as well is definitely very key. Yeah, that's, it'll be interesting to see how things when things go back to normal, you know, how much of that still remains.  I don't know if you're watching any of the sessions or anybody in your org, and they keep talking about the numbers. So I think last year and Inspire, they had close to 120,000 people participate in the event, which is kind of a 10x from what typically shows up in person. Usually it's July in Las Vegas, which is a wonderful place to be in at the mid July. And so it'll be interesting to see once they get back to in person what still remains hybrid. Yeah. Yeah, definitely because one positive feedback we've had from these hybrid events is that, yeah, it makes it a lot more accessible to people. You know, we're getting people attending our events from different states that normally wouldn't be able to come, or even some international people as well. And people that just, you know, live a bit far from the city that don't necessarily want to commute in every day for these top of events. It's making it so they can, they can come. Yeah. Well, yeah, obviously there's the benefits of being there in person and the networking and all that the face to face. But sometimes, you know, and it's, it's interesting to look at the numbers and look at the, you know, the insights from that, how many people participated around which topics, and, you know, which performed better for that, you know, for the remote, you know, attendee. And did that differ from the in person? So different data analysis. So, well, so I know we come from different worlds. So your developer, I'm, you know, not on that side, I'm actually an alliance guy now. So I'm more of a relationship business dev guy now. But I've been in this space for a number of years. I always like to ask that question, like, what are you most passionate about? Like, what, what are you speaking on writing about right now? What's really caught your interest? Well, I'm really excited about what they're doing with dotnet at the moment. So they're doing this whole dotnet unification across, across all the different components of the framework or the whole Xamarin with dotnet mowing Xamarin forms and blazer blazer desktop all that kind of stuff. So they're, they're unifying it across the whole ecosystem so that you can really, you know, you share the tools, you can create one project and, you know, have it go to all these different applications, you can use the same standards and the same type of language writing across all these different platforms. So it will make it a lot easier for dotnet developers to be able to pick up building mobile apps or building web apps versus API and using one language all the way across your, your application, which is really cool. I mean, how much are you having to, you know, jump between those different languages, those different systems, those different methodologies? I mean, or are you able to kind of work in one area? Or is it just more and more common that you're working across these different technologies? Yeah, well, I guess before it was like in my work experience, I would be doing, you know, probably a dotnet backend and then the front end would be a separate app that would be an Angular or React or something like that. So you are doing a lot of switching. And the way I usually work is doing more the vertical slices, you're doing the whole front and back end. So now when, yeah, with something like blazer, you can, you know, do that vertical slice and you're not having to switch between, you know, Angular TypeScript and dotnet C sharp backend, which is really cool. Well, and I know that just historically, I mean, there's a lot larger organizations that would go and hire specifically front end developers, back end developers. I always remarked that, you know, I worked for Microsoft for a couple of years, a decade ago, but, you know, the lack of people with the title, most of my first 20 years of my career was all about, you know, DBAs. And I worked with, you know, worked in data warehousing and did massive IT projects on that back end. So it's used to having data people all around it. I go to Microsoft and didn't meet a single person with DBA in their title, you know, interacted very little with that. And it seemed to be a lot of the push was with more of the modern technologies was to people that work on both sides of that own it end to end. I mean, is that is that a trend? Or is that just my just working in the wrong or work with the wrong circles of people? Yeah, there's still it depends on where you look. There's still a lot of companies and places where yeah, they have the dedicated front end developers versus back end, but I think it's becoming more common for like the whole class cross platform full stack, you know, you do you do the whole shebang, especially for me, I'm in the consulting world. So we, you know, we go in and help the clients and you have to be flexible and have a wide range of skills to be able to, you know, really help them get the best solution. And yeah, with this dot net unification, they're saying now you're not hiring the front end developers, mobile developers or whatever it may be, you're just hiring dot net developers, which is cool. So that's the whole full stack, you know, doing it and to end type of skill set. Well, hopefully they're not also asking a lot of those folks, which I just I know that don't know the design side as well. Yeah.  Yeah, we still have a separate design team that are very specialized in the design and we work closely with them. But yeah, that's that's their their forte. I'm sure there's some developers that are good at design as well. But you know, there are those people that are out there that are good at everything and can do all of that. But is generally not for a role. Yeah, it's usually there's some separation there. Well, tell me about your so how long you've been an MVP now? So this is my first year. So not not long at all. Yes, I just got a relations again. Yeah. Thank you. Yes, I just got it in June, actually. So it's only been one month. Yeah. Well, congratulations. And why don't you tell us what was kind of your path? What was your experience to becoming an MVP? So I've been involved in the tech community for a while. And even when I first started my career, I was involved in Kododojo, which is a programming club for kids. So my one of my first companies I worked at, we had a Kododojo that we ran there. And I was the main organizer for that. So I've been involved in, you know, helping people learn for quite a while. And I got into the, I guess, conference speaking side of things through, there's a conference here in Australia. And they have some other places as well called Yao. And they have a speaker training program called Yao New Voices in Tech. And it's specifically for underrepresented people, females and non non binary. And it's to help people get into conference speaking really. So it was a whole training program, intensive, I applied and got in was successful. And that sort of kicked off my conference speaking path, I guess, because from that actually got in as why they asked me to do the lock note at DDD Sydney. So it's the Sydney version of the conference that I helped organize in Melbourne. And yeah, it was my first conference talk and I was doing the lock note, which was pretty intimidating, but it ended up really well. And then it's just spiraled from there, really. That's right. Well, you know, so I have to say, so having organized, you know, dozens of events across the Western US started these SharePoint Saturday events, you probably have heard of them or familiar with them. And a number of them. And I know for years, I, I, I co ran the SharePoint Saturday events on Microsoft campus up in Washington. We would specifically, I mean, we would constantly do outreach to try and find new speakers, people that were brand new have never done anything that were to get students and to get, you know, just we really just really pushed hard on that and struggled to get people. And after every event, inevitably, you know, people would come up and be like, Oh, I really would have liked to have done it, but I've never done it before. Like, where were you? We're trying to get people like you involved. And so those kinds of programs, I would like to see more of those to, to open that up. Honestly, if I never presented again, and but you still could help organize these events and find more variety in speakers with backgrounds and working experiences and technical backgrounds, it would be fantastic. And so I don't know any, any guidance that you can provide of kind of what worked and helping identify speakers. What was it that that pulled you in? Was it somewhere? Yeah, well, yeah, there's been a few people. There's something we call volunteering here, where you're kind of being volunteered slash told like, Hey, you should do this talk. So it's that, yeah, I've had quite a few people in the tech community who have kind of pulled me into doing these talks saying, Hey, I think you should be good at this. We'd love for you to come speak at our event, because it is that intimidation about around being the one to apply in the first place. So, you know, having somebody to reach out to you and say, Hey, we want you to come. I found, you know, really helpful because that sort of helped me get over my, the fear of applying in the first place and saying, Okay, like, I'll give it a go and see what happens. And it turned out it wasn't so bad. And just kept going, going from there. But also, yeah, just in general, having different training programs, we like to. So in, for example, the DDD conference that help organize, we do try to focus on, on new speakers. And that's one of the questions in the application form that we ask is like, have you done talks before, and we run a full like speaker training program before the conference actually starts. So after the talks are selected, we have this, you know, a few weeks of, you know, these are the kind of things that you can do to help improve helping them practice and we can assign them a mentor if they want as well. So to do automatically assign people to that program if they, if on their application, they've never presented or, or they're, they're relatively new, make them go through. Yeah. Yeah. So we, we have all of the speakers try to go to the trainings. And, and then there's a sort of extra you can ask for a mentor as well. And we might talk to them and say, like, Hey, I know you've never done it before. Would you like a mentor and put it out there? Because it's the same kind of like push and pull type of thing where people are often hesitant to say themselves, yes, I need this. Whereas if you approach them and say, Hey, I want to do this for you. They're more willing to, to accept it. Yeah, that's a great idea. And I even like the idea of, you know, volunteering people to, to have that mentor, whether they're just assigned it. And, you know, some of the suddenly somebody's like, Hey, I'm your mentor. If you don't need help, then Hey, that's great. There's light load for the, for the mentor and they might have, you know, three or four speakers to, to work with. But I know I think that is a great lesson learned of having the mentors there. And there's, you know, there have been a few events that I participated in that add kind of a similar new speaker training. And part of that too is especially if it is an event organizers, you well know, if you have no idea what the capability of this person is, there's limited online profile, and they submit and you really like that topic. You want to give them a chance. You also want to see them in action. Yeah, you want to provide that, that guidance. Yeah, that's very cool. Well, excellent. Well, Melissa, this has been, it's great getting to know you. I hope to get down to your part of the world soon. Well, I don't know, it sounds, sounds like it might be, I'm hoping, hopefully spring next year, things will be open up again. Yeah, well, my family's in California, so I'm hoping I can get over there at some point soon and see all of them again. Hopefully, one thing is an MVP, the best perk is the MVP summit. So if that's back in person next spring, you've got to make it to that event. It's really worthwhile. So awesome. Well, Melissa, for people that want to find out more about you and get in touch with you, what are the best ways to reach you? So I'm super active on Twitter. So Twitter is a good one. So my handle is Melissa. So there's no A, so M-E-L-I-S-S underscore Houghton, H-O-U-G-H-T-O-N. And then the other way is on LinkedIn as well. So you can probably search for my name, Melissa Houghton, and you'll be able to hopefully find me on LinkedIn as well. Well, awesome. Well, thank you so much for your time. And for those that are listening in on the podcast or catching this on YouTube, of course, you can find a blog post with some of the links that she just shared over on my blog at buckthedplanet.com. And thanks a lot, Melissa. And we'll catch you soon. Hopefully, see you in person next year. Yeah, I hope so too. Thanks for having me. Talk to you soon.