What's up guys, how's everybody doing today? Let's see what the market is looking like. All right, so what's up? What's up, Jawa? How's it going? Yeah, pretty good day, huh? So let's check out the market MGM killed it today up like 9.6% Great news or something. I believe I remember correctly. Let me check this out real quick Yeah, they got an upgrade from neutral to outperform from they raised the target from $33 to $68 And people went ham. They were like, oh my gosh, and people just bought bought bought. So that was a good move it today Let's see. Let's see what else is on today Etsy Like how do we wear reversals and upside? It's just um interesting day interesting day Fc The region cruises up a little bit So I guess I guess Carnival was up too then because if I believe we looked at Carnival yesterday and Right. Yeah, we looked at it yesterday. We're like you know, I didn't like the stock but It was at the area to buy the dip and It hit the support so It bounced off the support Interesting move there A lot of the Lot of the pink stuff got wrecked today. So it's tech So MU got completely wrecked lost the other support that we had there. So now it's finding new support MU down almost 4% today Citrix system is also down.  Some stuff are up. Most of the stuff are within like zero to two percent range so very choppy today and Then we have the market market kind of playing the way to like where we want it a little bit so MU to the Goulag Where so check it out. So yes, this is EX Which is the S&P 500 mini futures? I tracked this because it runs 24 or 23 like 23 6 something like that So it runs like much more hour than spy. So it's a little bit more accurate and You can see like where we were yesterday, you know, or even today. Honestly, we hit the area today, too so this is like the top from October 1st and What's this other top from? So we had that top from October 1st. We had the top on like October 5th and We hit that top again today. We have nice little run up and then you know kind of rejected off that right So just send just been testing market just being super extra choppy if everything goes plan then I Mean, I don't even know what catalyst we have other than the fact that our side is way too high If things goes planned, we could potentially come back to like 427 428 levels on the spine Yes range because the daily chart our side is pretty maxed out the last two days. We've been selling off So that's typically, you know signals and signs of bearishness If we come back down to like this range over here, probably good range to move back up What's up cars? It's going nasty Nate DJ Yeah, well, how you guys doing? Oh, you know what? I do know I do know why we I do know why we're going down because I kind of posted it up a little bit I posted it over the weekend on the market outlook for the 10th to the 16th in our elite channel So this week we got the inflation numbers coming up and inflation numbers supposed to be mean high Which is a good and bad I guess but in the good part is that it could be transitory The bad part is high inflation, you know, it's just it's just not good, but for a lot of companies Because that means supply costs up, right? And then JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs is kicking off earnings this week. So that's something very interesting to look forward to And that's gonna be like, you know, JP Morgan's small morning I forgot where in GS is but it's gonna be good, you know, just Friday So we're gonna interesting to see, you know, what direction those are gonna go and Then the IMF and the World Bank also holding their annual meeting this year. I mean this week So yesterday posted the market outlook, you know, I said market had a nice bounce last week as depth ceiling moved to December However, we're still struggling to break over that 442 area trend line with unemployment numbers hitting only Only 38% man on Friday, right? Yeah, I mean Honestly, we could go either direction. We're in the middle of the range Naturally, it looks like we're going down Based on the technicals, everything is pointing downhill, right? Everything is pointing to a downhill slope But obviously a surprise news And really really good news and stuff could pull us around, you know TSM say some really bullish stuff And and we can see market recovery, you know Things could move But if you know, if TSM says like the stuff that we think they're gonna say, you know With the whole shortage in situation Then we're in trouble, right? And we're probably gonna go to the bottom of the range because And you know what I kind of remembered this from the last time unemployment number came out to Um, I remember the last time we had really bad unemployment numbers The market had a bull trap, which you know a bull trap is when the market ran up You know making everybody think we were bullish and they trapped all the bulls and then it came back down So I remember the last time we had bad unemployment numbers that happened and didn't make sense So we're kind of getting that move, you know this week as well where unemployment numbers And I mean that our employment numbers are only showing like 38, right? So that's a huge miss man hitting 38 scoring 38 out of 100 percent It's a huge miss. So it was kind of natural. We went down. So this was published on october night um Talking a little bit about that And then, you know, I said tech had a good bounce as well, but there was a lot of fear Uncertainty and doubt around facebook So overall tech sector was struggling to break over trend line resistance as well And pretty much nephrik was kind of carrying the tech sector a little bit, but we'll see And and dollar index was almost about to break down. It was hitting the support there Um our side had already cooled off. So last week I was bullish because dollar index our side was extremely high Market our side was low so, you know It Market was more likely to bounce where a dollar index was more likely to go down And the dollar index was going down. It would have been good for the market. So we did get that a little bit So for some of you guys, I hope you guys were able to close some positions. Hold off a little bit And then financial sector they're earning this week So we were either looking for a huge breakout or rejection here But i'm gonna call it here, man I don't think I don't think we're gonna break out on the financial sector Because if there's one thing I know about the financial sector is that they are notorious for like Like teasing man, they're like one of the best teasers out there. They just love to tease you like if if xlf Was a girl It would have like a only fans page just to like tease you So as you can see it kind of happened a little bit, right? We had that top It looked like it was like setting up for the breakout And obviously we didn't break out, you know, we checked a little bit come back came back down And like for the longest time, man, we've been hoping for the financial sector to break out But I don't know if we're gonna get it. I really don't think we're even gonna get it, man It's tough. They have such great quarters previously I'm not even sure if they can continue to beat those great quarters So we'll see especially Goldman Sachs, man What's up, I'll put troll Yeah, tough times man tough times getting wrecked a little bit This week, so we had some plays going really well and some plays just got flopped, you know, obviously our A play didn't go as well kind of flop a little bit, but didn't risk that much Down about a little bit on that 59 percent Pinterest was doing pretty good up 17 percent from that But and then I also shorted the market from 436 to 426 based on the trend line So ideally I'm looking for like spy to hit 426 427 area for the bounce So that's why I shorted from 436 to 426 as a spread Does this mean so if I ask you to come to your head most likely I mean Yeah, you know what? What are we looking at for a firm? Wow a firm is still hella strong.  They ran so much already. It's like I I know like anything over here just FOMO on that on the firm play now, right? It's already has such a monster move. It's probably due for a correction down to like 108 109 What about what's the other one? I I wouldn't even group sq in the same sector anymore, man. I feel like sq is like More with paypal or they're like forgotten Like sq used to be a really popular stock a few weeks ago or a few months ago But it's like a forgotten ticker now or it's just a Just a curse ticker at this point Check out sofai So far I had a little bit continuation today. Wow more move up I don't even know if I want to like I don't know. I I miss that sofai move myself I don't know if you guys got in there. How many of you guys got in it? But um, if you guys got in and look for that next price range at 2075 and Try to take some profit there because if market is going to be bearish you know Obviously it's not going to be that great to So for this to pop further, right? Oh, yeah, let me let me put some stocks on the request.  The OCU DocuSign. Is docuSign still dying? Yo, should we check out MU man? Should we see what the next support level for this buy the dip on MU is?  You sure the MU today? Yeah Nice Oh, so you got in the 15th range 50 dollars. Yo, that's crazy, man Etsy scns Let's see scns MU be coming going down for six or seven months straight where it has it has man all right, so Let's start checking out some of the tickers. Let me see. Do we have any earnings today? Oh, we do. We have SGH I was looking forward to that. Let me check out this earning real quick Um, because I was curious this is going to be the start of like that semiconductor, man Because um SGH is also a designer manufacturer of electronic focus on memory and computing text and stuff And not exactly semiconductor, but in the in the same area at the computer stuff I was a little bit bullish on ER, but I couldn't buy any spreads on it for some reason Um on safety works. I don't know if it was glitchy or what Then let me do it So let's see earnings per share was 2016 cents be estimate of dollar 60 sales is 467 mill as opposed to 461 um And then EPS is dollar and 80 to 2020 Whoa, yo, that's crazy So the earnings per share um for q1 guidance is dollar and 80 to 220, right? It's also a big range too um, and they think like and like analyst estimate is only like at dollar 49 So they're they're expecting to make a lot more money potentially than what people are estimating them to um Even though sales is at the lower range of 440 mil to 480 as opposed to 458 Hmm interesting Very interesting move there Going on andy. I think this CRSP 96 dip Oh, wow apple just dropped two at the hours All the news on apple So net sales up 57 percent you over year EPS up 160 Full year up 34 Okay, let's see how the stock price looked like um compared to a year ago Stock price last year was around 25 um, so So even at 1.5 percent their value around 37. So stock has definitely ran up a lot um, let's see Prior to cove it where's cove it coves are here around 34 um 34 times 1.5 So Yeah, they could probably have potential to run back to the 50s over here Because that is some crazy crazy, um Earnings per share and guidance there. It's probably going to be something I got to put on my watch list, man I might look to play that tomorrow. See if we have a huge run if market is bullish, obviously Oh, what are they talking about? I don't see any apple news. I don't know why they said that apple dropped following some news So market on close today was 696 to the sell side um Oh my gosh, yo now they're trying to sell that um So white houses they're trying to prevent inflation from being an issue And they're also trying to sell the fact that a 10-year treasure yield are not bearish for the s&p 500 It's starting to get to the point where a lot of them is just like Like Like it's just like it's just like bs and it's just like it's just like yeah guys. It's okay Um, I understand like I understand that all the data right now is really really bad, you know um This is kind of what they're saying like this is pretty much What they're trying to tell us Oh apple is likely to slash iphone 13 productions, aren't you because Oh, no, this could be like the end of the apple.  I hope not bro. Thank you for that nasty name so Like lately I don't know like starting last week and this week we've been seeing a lot of hitch funds and and and all these guys like coming out and And spewing this bs news yo and and what they're saying is that they're like, oh, yo, don't worry guys You know unemployment numbers was bad like job numbers was really bad, but it's okay You know, it's okay. Like it's okay. We only hit 38 percent. You know, it's not as bad It's not bad for the market now They're trying to come out and say that the rising 10-year treasure yield is not bearish for the s&p 500 and Like it's it's like so silly because these things are almost directly correlated And for them to kind of come out and say it's not, you know, like typically it says it's typically view is bad news Convention of wisdom or whatever But now they're saying that Hasn't been bearish at all for at least the past 15 plus years Like bro, where you getting this data from? The last time the 10-year yield went up Um, you can check this on like trading view It's like egs 10 So like the last time it went up over here Um, was in march, right? And as it started to climb up a little bit, we had a huge pullback in march and that's an e 500 So I don't know. I think if we if it this potentially does come back up to like 1.7 1.8 Of course the market's gonna get hurt You know, of course What's up professor glass welcome. How are you doing? All right, so let's check out some stocks CRSP CRSP had a huge drop after hours and then seeing some recovery right now Their share fell after updated result from early stage CTX 110 cancer study They're saying they're showing some remission. It's not working as well Yeah, apple's gonna send spy down. You're right Oh, wow, you know what and the news came out. When did the news come out? Oh, it came out 410 could have picked up some puts Because you know that um for s and p 500 you can actually buy calls and puts until 415. Did you guys know that? So CRSP actually had a pretty good bounce today. Um, it was setting up the reversal too To the upside um prior to that drop at market close. It was setting up pretty good reversal but That that gap down at market close is probably gonna make a hundred dollars the resistance line now And it's probably gonna most likely come back to the next level around 84 at this point Yeah, I didn't think about it either man, but I only saw it when it that popped up on my thing at 48 418 But it's gonna be pretty ugly. Um Might have to might have to look for bearish plays at market open tomorrow instead Based on the apple news because apple is such a big like It's such a big Ticker that isn't so many ETFs, right? Let me show you an example. Let me show you apple ETFs ETFs with apple exposures more or less So like it's in the xlk is in vgt It's in the russells a whole bunch of stuff You know, it's in the the s and p 500 growth So Like a lot of the market stuff is gonna look at it's it's in a heavy weight in a lot of the market We laid it stuff. Let me see next level is in the 80s for CRSP if you guys are If you guys are bullish look for that next level or 85 to buy the dip And if you guys are new here's the link to It's the link to the list Yeah, 9% of the qqq is no joke, man So it's like it's gonna drag the cues and then it's gonna drag the spy down tomorrow If that bearish news continue to you know, follow through it's gonna be pretty ugly Nobody is gonna want that So next one is docu sign haven't looked at the sticker in a while. So let me see how it's looking Oh, wow, it did had a nice move um to the upside But dang this stock has been like I don't even know how to I don't even think I can chart in that other side other one Yeah, it's been like it just been a straight decline since um Since like august it found the top it hasn't really moved much um It's coming back to test the 200 level here So we had a nice bounce after the test at the 200 last time to over here Um, obviously that didn't get us anywhere It's probably gonna come back down to test again Oh, no There's a huge head and shoulder possibly setting up on the um On the weekly chart So that means like next level probably looking for is like all the way down here, man shoe I don't know They got ya coming up Watch for this range right here if if it doesn't if it breaks if it like Breaks under the 200 and you know, it doesn't bounce Then it's either it's most likely gonna come back down further If it does bounce over there, it's gonna move up But it really depends on the direction of the market where the market want to take things um So like think of the market as the environment as the weather if the s&p 500 and the qqqs and uh You know in the rustles if the weather is really bad then You know everything else is gonna get hit by the storm Need to hold the 200 s&a at 248 Blossom vow today How's vow looking? Yo, I think vow could potentially drop man because Um, the dollar index might start moving up and that could be bad for vow So be a little bit careful with that. I'm a little bit bearish on the commodities for this week my man So fiat world said apple states that texas Oh txn Um in alvago can't deliver chips They expect to produce 90 million iPhones in the last three months But they're most likely to more likely to produce only 80 million About 11 reduction The 11th percent reduction is a lot. Um Like that could be the difference between Them hitting the the numbers this year Or for the quarter versus them like missing the quarter, right? So that's gonna be pretty interesting move there. That's pretty significant If it was like five percent that might have been okay, but dang 11 reduction Let's check out mu real quick Yo, so yeah You guys this day earlier, too I think somebody was saying that mu was like down to 59s or 60s or something or 55s I guess that makes sense now that makes sense because Yeah, because if it like if it um If it came all the way down if since it broke this level, there's really no real support. There's some support around 64 Um, but I wouldn't even argue as that like great support there So it could potentially come back to this pre-covid levels And that's that potentially 60 Wow Let's check out plug How come plug is moving up today? Right Yeah, I mean, I guess I guess that's why like we always hate it. I'm you man. Remember like, um, we joked about how crap They were for like That whole situation in 2018 and stuff dang Can't believe they got me back in at one point, too Actually, there's also a possibility that I could set up this trend line now that I just think about it I just thought about it Um, so that could be like 63 64 I mean if it comes back to 60s, it's got a bounce there, right? It's got a bounce It's got a bounce, bro Yo, so many things are setting up this head and shoulder on the weekly chart. Are you guys seeing this? Like look at this big head and shoulder. There's a lot of stuff that's setting it up Oh boy Oh snap Yeah, do we miss this super um I lost track. Did we miss that super bounce on Roku? I think I missed it, man. I didn't see that Wow, what the hell? Where was my alert? Slacking man forgot to set an alert Some friend, right? What's up, kid? How you doing? Yeah, um, I had this we had this drone a while back looking for that super bounce there um, and it did too Just put that in there in case you guys want to check it out later All right, let me check out plug. I lost track there. Um, I'm not sure why plug ran today. It was weird plug's potential for guidance rays could cat a Catalyze shares analysts say so they must have had a guidance raise yesterday or something and Energy shortage So plug has some levels up here at the $32 area. If that's well, if you're bullish, those are potential levels in go to It's sitting at a resistance level right now to short term wise So this is a good area to sell take some profit um, if you're up in it if you don't sell here and you want to um, be a little bit, you know risky Risky dicky next level is that 33 34 dollar almost So that's also a good level to take profit If you're bearish you can alternatively short short those levels as well um, and and you know Look to take it down from there nice nice You're still sitting fc fcel. How's that doing? Oh, it's moving up too. I guess the whole alternative energy sector is starting to To see some recovery Let's check out etsy next Long and strong. Let's go Oh, so etsy. I've been I joined this a while back. Um, it actually followed it pretty well We had to move from the bottom trend We had some ejection from the top trend So let's see. Let's see if it can continue this this um, this kind of directional move of that rejection on the bottom and I mean bounce on the bottom and rejection on the top So this potentially next level we're looking at on etsy could potentially be like 2 17s If you're bearish you can try to short it to like 206 are 200s even Resistance to 17 support 197. All right, s c and x next s c and s next What does this company do is like? Hold on Let me look it up s c and s is a medical company focused on design development commercialization of glucose monitoring system Okay, looks like they awarded themselves some shares last week No other news going on for this company super slow mover If you're bullish, um, this is a potentially good area to buy at the yellow line. We bounced there off that before could also Further down could also be there Probably look for that area to hoe Um, if you're bullish, this could probably see a move back there or down here So moving a move back up here would be Where's that? That is 409. So it's at 328 right now Uh, if things look good things get a bullish move that could be the next Next direction We got a lot of money flowing. So I kind of need to break above Need to break above like 345 above 345 will easily hit that four dollar range Thanks cars. You too. Have a good night Enjoy You should see four dollars All right, let's check out XOM next Yo, a lot of energy stocks have been getting a lot of love and hitting like really high levels XOM is one of the few ones that hasn't really like Hit these high levels that I guess a lot of people are looking for Um, it potentially if you're bullish, you know, you you want to expect it to hit like 66 dollars Um, or even at least like 64s, but it's been struggling to do that Um, let me see I remember drawing this huge double bottom pattern this doubly pattern And I was expecting to hit the 66 man for the longest time. It never did freaking scam I haven't really touched oil ever since the last time I got scammed by it But based on the the crude oil futures You would think, you know, you would think that XOM would touch this levels because crude oil futures has already passed like it's already passed 2020 January 2020 highs, right? 2020 crude oil futures trading at 65 dollars Even in like 2018 of october when we had huge run up It was trading at like, you know, uh, what was it 75s? We're trading at 80 dollars per barrel right now, right? So I don't know why XOM isn't moving Professor glass I've been waiting for a long time.  I came in Nothing to like really see no pattern or anything. I don't really see any patterns on that other chart I mean over here you can see that recovery off that 200 um, so I mean I don't know I don't know potentially making higher. Maybe if it pulls back all I can say if it's pulled back to here Let's probably look for that by the tip area earnings aren't always good for these oil companies Um, but if it pulls back that'd be the area, you know, if it um moves up You know, the areas to sell is 66 Oil stocks aren't going to be something I'm going to touch anymore It's just too far out for me, man resistance 66 support Where's the support at 57? All right, there you go. Hope that helps man What are you playing on it the butterfly?  Yo, that's ballsy man I'll tell you one thing man one thing I know for sure these oil calls They don't look like they burn ivy, but They move so slow they actually do So just be a little careful Big green energy stock link to bill gate. I'll check it out. Thanks, nia so lately um ever since they like Got closer to the slack acquisition. I think they finished the acquisition too. I could be wrong I'm pretty sure um sales force already finished the slack acquisition And ever since they they did or they got really close to doing it. It's been moving up Um, it was almost hitting this huge buy level here I had a buy order around 195 Looking to buy the dip at like pre-covid levels, but sadly it never hit Huge disappointment there. Um, and then started that reversal to the upside After having like months of downtrend now is having this uptrend So if you're really bullish, you're looking for the next level to come back up here Or come back down here to the test I think we're more likely to test the bottoms over here Then to go to the tops. I think we're going to test the bottom first and then go to the top because If I remember correctly, I think CRM might be like somewhat similar to like the Dow industrial sector And and the industrial and the Dow Jones They're they've been pretty weak. They just had a crossover So it's looking a little bit bearish For them because they they just rejected off the top here So I'm looking for them to do a triple test back down at 338 right now. It's at 343 So if that happens, then I think CRM is probably going to come back down to test like Maybe 265 or maybe like 270 range and that's probably a good area to buy the dip UEC The ovarian energy probably had a nice mood today So next resistance It was consolidating a little bit here Next resistance is probably like 360s if it can can can move back there Maybe we'll break above. Maybe we won't Since they got earnings coming up in a little bit Let's look in a little bit bullish It looks like it's breaking out of that consolidation there. What I say that price range was 360s CRM had a big big move Because they raised guidance when they held the annual shareholder meeting Oh Wow, they were saying back in when they reported the earnings Dang, why did G us like that man? I think we went long on CRM too, right? Oh snapchat. Let's check this out Only thing I'm confident about snapchat Is that there's some support at the 70 dollar range right here and And the Bollinger band also says the same thing That's the only thing I am confident about I'm looking at this chart anytime because Let me see We do have a cross over here and it looks like it could make that next leg move I mean technically you can kind of say like This is somewhat of like a Supply zone or like resistance zone, right? um, so like if this is like a resistance area then It needs to potentially like really break above that 76 dollar area for it to go to like 79 80s plus But then at the same time, you know, you got to ask yourself how bullish is the market right now You know, what's the direction of the market and where does the market want to go? So what what what what position do you have on it? What do you have? Do you have calls or you have puts? What are you looking to do? Oh, no, you have calls expiring this week ouch What um Are you up on it?  I will say leave a stop loss right there So 73 50. That's the stop loss area if we break under that If we break under the 73 50, that's probably where you want to get exit You know, because let's say best case scenario. Um, best case scenario market is bullish, right? And even though we have that bad apple news, let's say market drop a little bit market open bad apple news, um And it comes back to like 73 50 and that's the support that's the support from today, right at like, um Or yesterday that's support from yesterday's before market close And let's say it finds support there and it bounces, right? And then it can potentially hit 76 plus And then you know, you'll probably be in the profit there Maybe 77s and then for that potential breakout if possible. So that's the best case scenario Um, that's why I would say probably have a stop loss right there Yeah, that's also true as well Um, sometimes you might just have to close the position Or just give them more time So that's the link. Uh, what was the other stock you guys wanted to check out? GWH see that time interval secret sauce Nobody knows It's like it's like when it's like those videos Like my time intervals like those videos where they say Find out this one secret trick to making millions in the stock market It's all in a time interval Yo, how come I can't see this my type in this rate? For some reason brazinga just doesn't have it. Um, so I came and Look up this company I See acquisition company What Look it back. Yes. Yes, which makes giant batteries of iron salt and water Starts trading the company lost 245.3 million in the first six months of 2021 Just trying to go public. Most of it was just trying to go public It's interesting interesting concept. It's already moved a lot. You know, um, I feel around Like eight nine dollars ten dollars whatever through the special acquisition And you know, obviously had a huge spike a lot of hype behind it um, at some point another you're gonna it's kind of like It's probably good for scalping Um, but I wouldn't touch it in terms of investment Most of these tickers like they're they're you know, they value at that ten dollar level It could be like like getting it now would be like kind of getting into like lucid, right? Um, remember when lucid group first IPO everybody was hype They were like, yo, this is the next tesla to the moon boys, you know, and And people bought that stock from ten dollars, right and the momentum was so strong That it had bought the stock to like 65 dollars But if you bought it anywhere from like 33 to 65 You're still back holding to this day You know and And like and you're just praying that they they you know End up making money someday and 10 years down the line It becomes like a 300 dollar stock and then you actually make money But as of right now it was just back hold the central You know, just be careful a lot with those hype news and especially special acquisition hype news Because a lot of the special acquisitions stocks They're they're already value at five years of of like, you know five-year valuation of sales and growth And if they don't meet that five-year sales and growth plan Their value even less than ten dollars so This is a little tricky there But I mean if you want to scalp it they trade it definitely very interesting stuff to to do that I mean, I would probably even add it to the watch list just for day trading Because if there's a lot of volume, there's a lot of people, you know playing around with it then It's it should be, you know, it should be fun. You should find some levels once established some levels To to trade play with it. Let me see But right now there's not enough data to you know That's established it to really um To really trade it Yeah, broke that trend too Maybe maybe you can see a scalp when it comes back to like the twenty dollars levels Because see some potential bounce in these levels here Um, if it comes back down you can see a bounce there before the next like big leg up Um, say let's say if it's like doing a bull flag It'll probably bounce here and then move on further Yeah, just watch don't let the formal get to you man You got this. There's so many other tickers You don't need this ticker. Just put it in the friend zone. Um, you know, Sean I was looking at I was looking at steel yesterday and I was a little bit bearish Um, I think I think we're gonna potentially test like the lower levels here I don't know maybe because The the dollar index is really strong. So that's something I've been watching We've got to monitor where that where that moves But it's been getting really strong man. I don't know why it looks like it want to break out further So if it continues to break out further, I'm going to wait for it to finish Um, I mean, it's not a bad idea to start at the position of steel But I think like maybe wait for dollar index to hit 94.75 ish To start that position But this level looks good. This is it looks good level if it holds continue to buy the dip I guess at the 2050s Yikes That was so bearish last time I think I drew this all the way here. I meant to drew it here Yeah, look for that 2050 to hold, you know, if that doesn't hold then Let me see. I knew I I knew I charted it the other day Where did I chart it? Yeah, if that doesn't hold it's going back to 16s, man It's got a hole. It's got a hole, bro. It's got to Oh, I know why I was looking at last time. I remember now. Um, I was looking at iron futures That's what it was So iron futures, um iron ores futures is like, you know For steels and stuff, right? Um, they just had a bounce the other day. I think that's why I took a look at it because it popped out on my alert Um, because it it dropped from like 200 and something dollars All the way to 100 like that's a huge drop. So anytime it drops that much It tends to dead cat bounce so Yeah, I think it's a good idea to average back. I think it's a good idea to average down because You know anytime something has like such a huge drop It's gotta bounce at least a little bit. It's gotta at least like dead cat bounce just a little bit But sometimes it doesn't though. Sometimes it doesn't I Mean like look at lumber, right? So we're looking for this bounce kind of like this lumber bounce You know what I mean So Yeah Look for that support at 2050. You know what? You know what? I'm with you Let me set an alert Go to my 195 minute time frame. Let me set an alert Let me jump in That's pretty much it man. I'm gonna end the stream here. Um, if you guys want to check out the watch list Here's the link Um, I think I enabled access so you guys all have access now If you have any questions, feel free to hit me up or anything. Otherwise. Have a good night guys. Take care I'll paste it on the youtube side as well


So after a tough start at the clay court season, a third round loss in Monte Carlo, and apparent injury to his elbow, Novak Djokovic has just had a press conference ahead of the tournament in Bosnia that he's playing this week. The ATB 250 event that was supposed to be the Serbia Open, but this year it's going to be in Bosnia. He's actually opened up about the injury and also about the tournament in general. Is that what Djokovic had to say? You're welcome all of us tennis players in a very positive way. It gives me great pleasure to be in Bayer Luka for the first time professionally. The good thing is that in tennis every week, you have a new opportunity to make maybe more than seven days before. Of course, I was not satisfied with the result in Monte Carlo. This is a new week. I received a lot of support and nice emotions from the people who met me at the airport in front of the hotel and today here on the field. I was hoping to get something like that, but this exceeded my expectations. And when asked about the elbow injury, he said, It's not ideal, but it's good enough. I hope it is fully ready for my first match here. That's what Djokovic had to say in a press conference as the start of the tournament has already happened. Djokovic will be playing an 18 year old Frenchman to start the tournament. Probably a great start for Djokovic and it has got some tough players. This event, you know, Rubella is playing this event at this stage of this video being recorded. So it's not going to be easy for Djokovic. And of course with that injury of the elbow that he suffered at Monte Carlo, we'll see how he does in his first few matches. But let me know down in the comments below. Do you think this is going to hurt Novak Djokovic's chances at the French Open? What do you think maybe Monte Carlo? He just hurt his elbow and he's going to get better. Maybe the more he plays like the Australian Open with the hamstring, the better it will get. Of course Madrid is happening next week and then Rome, where he's the defending champion. So he's got some big tournaments left to go before the French Open and a lot of points to defend to keep that number one spot. But Novak Djokovic is playing Bosnia this week, even though he has an elbow problem.


The story I have for you guys today is one that I want you to listen to carefully because there's a really really important message that I want you to pay attention to but before that you need to walk and go find the Eiffel Tower because today is my last day in Paris. I do want to get that final look because God knows when I will be back in Paris again. Let's go. There she is. I don't know if everyone who's been to Paris agrees with me but every time I make it to the Eiffel Tower it's the same feeling. It never gets old. You always get that wow this is the Eiffel Tower because it's just so incredible. I personally am not a big fan of Paris but the Eiffel Tower is always mesmerizing. It's such a wonderful structure. This is a story that I've been wanting to share with you guys for quite a while and hopefully you can take some lessons out of it. If you're on Facebook you probably saw some of these travel groups especially those for women and there are a bunch of them that are super helpful especially for female travelers who want to get more into solo travel so I would go to one of these groups specifically. I don't want to share the exact name but it has an incredible supportive community so usually if someone is traveling solo for the first time they would go in and get tips from other travelers about safety, good places to visit, how to stay safe if a destination is safe and there's also this thing where travelers can offer to host each other so let's say for example I have some space in my apartment and I'm willing to host somebody in my country. I would post to the group and say that I have availability these days. I'm willing to host you and this way these female travelers are supporting each other or if you are a guest or you want to introduce yourself as a guest you can go to the group and you can post the destination that you are traveling to and see if there is somebody who's willing to host you. This way you're not really traveling alone, you get to meet new friends or at the very least you feel safe for your first solo trip and you have somebody who's probably willing to show you around and even travel with you which is so helpful. I have personally met so many incredible women on this group. They usually have great admins to make sure that everything is well organized and people are respecting the rules etc etc. There are always some weird stories posted to this group, usually women who end up finding themselves in weird situations so for example if somebody is traveling and couch surfing they are sharing somebody's couch and then at some point they don't feel safe during their stay for one reason or the other. They would post an emergency message on the group and if there is somebody in the region where they are traveling they might be open to host them which is really helpful. I love the support behind it and the good intention behind it and the willingness to help other female travelers who are in the sticky situations but there is this story that I saw the other day and it really stuck with me and I wanted to share it with you guys and this story was from a person who traveled from her country to probably the other side of the world to meet up with this guy who she talked to for months online. It was the time for them to meet face to face and so he suggested that she traveled to the country where he lives to meet up with him and he also offered that she stays with him in his apartment so she accepted she traveled to the other side of the world met up with this person stayed with him but then at some point of her stay she started feeling unsafe because this person was abusive I'm not sure if it was like physical abuse or mental abuse but it's still abuse so she was not safe at all and she posted to the group asking for help and it was an emergency like she was trying to get out of the situation as soon as she can but she also pointed that not only she's not feeling safe but she doesn't have the resources to get herself out of that situation which to me it just blew my mind because first of all the title I chose for this video you never travel the distance for a guy and even even if you find yourself in a situation where you think it's reasonable for you to travel the distance to meet up with somebody that you don't know because by the end of the day talking to somebody online is not the same as seeing them face to face like people change what you see online chatting online and being out of your sight is not what you get when you see that person face to face that's one but then two even if you decide to travel the distance I mean at least think about having your own accommodation and having that safe space because you are in a country that a is not a country that you are familiar with the environment is not something that you are familiar with the person is not something that you are familiar with at the very least have a place for you that you can go to and crash for the end of the day or even if you decide to stay with this person at the very least have the plan B and have some resources to help yourself and get yourself out of your out of that situation instead of begging other people which I there's nothing wrong with asking for help when it's necessary it's better than not asking for help and you know the situation can escalate really fast but this is where the importance of being independent and having that cushion and that emergency fund to help yourself when you need help because it's just not a fun situation to be in and this is why I think for women especially being independent and being financially independent is so crucial whether you are traveling or not traveling it's so important to have a say in in what you want to do with your life and you have the power to help yourself because when you have that financial independence you are capable of making decisions for yourself you don't need anyone else like you don't need anybody to help you you don't need this person to to beat you up because they know they have the upper hand and they have the power to abuse you like this person I'm 100% sure that if he knew that you are capable of getting yourself out of that sticky situation he probably wouldn't be um abusing you to to begin with so please please please whether you are traveler or not traveler always prioritize being independent and not relying on on anyone especially when you become an adult like don't rely on anybody yourself yourself and yourself first not your parents not a partner not your husband not your boyfriend or girlfriend it's yourself have that emergency fund always I always tell my my friends or like younger siblings it's always important to have a couple of thousand dollars underneath you to help you get out of sticky situation in this life and you will go through sticky situations and honestly for me I was very happy to see that there were so many women for this story specifically I was happy to see that there were so many women who were willing to drive and get the person out of that situation but not everyone has access to helpful people like this and at the same time I was thinking to myself okay it's good to have groups like this that can back you up and women that can back you up when it's needed but at the same time I couldn't help judging this person and judging this situation because sometimes we go after our emotions and we forget to use our brains like why why would you do that no matter how much you you are in love with this person put your hearts aside and try to use your brain because somebody who's using their brain they're not gonna allow themselves to be in a situation like this I think that's the story that's the message please please please be very very careful we always share the the beauty of travel and the positives of travel but there are so many dark stories out there especially for solo female travel keep enjoying your travels but please please please be very careful


YouTube I'm sorry, man, what's going on it's a grave here with another video and in this video the Steelers It was said that they could possibly be interested in Mitch Trabisky And it was said that he would have a markets that the Giants were interested in him and whatnot But now Steelers they made it official and they have signed Mitch Trabisky so Maybe his time in Buffalo will have I guess sort of humbled him like hey Whoa, let me sort of take a step back for a second Re-evaluate myself change up some things maybe improve learn some things from Josh Allen to you know, Josh Allen is like that man and Okay, and let me try to reinvent Who Mitch Trabisky is as a quarterback in the NFL and now he'll have a chance to do that with the Pittsburgh Steelers He goes to a good team goes to a good organization They know how to get things done over there in Pittsburgh But really the biggest thing in my opinion that was holding them back had been quarterback play been Rosasburg It was not a ever bad quarterback But over the past couple of years especially last year like you saw it over the past two years for sure Think that the struggle was with the arm strength Because for the short passes or they would get there the intermediate passes They would struggle, but they would get there but the deep passes It was like they would hang in the air for so long because he couldn't put that zip on it like he used to But now Steelers they they got some QB competition with Mitch Trabisky With not Hodges, but a Mason Rudolph and Can I think of the one that used to play for the Washington football Dwayne Haskins? There we go and I was thinking I remember when um Steelers initially hired Brian Flores as a defensive assistant I think oh hold up now. I Know he's gonna be working with the defense But you know this this is a this position for him is just a stepping stone to get him back to being a head coach in NFL one day, but I was wondering like man Could they also go for the Sean Watson as well? But I think with them signing Mitch Trabisky that rules that out that rules it out And this like it. This is a surprise signing to me I will I'm very excited and very like seriously interested to see how Steelers fans feel about this signing Me if I was one, honestly, I would not be excited about it You never know what could happen. You never know But I would be like ooh, I will be a little bit worried And I would really be like scratching my head as to why But hey, we'll see I could be completely wrong and this thing could turn around We could come back to this video in a year and people could be like I see you you thought Mitch Trabisky wasn't even gonna be a good fit for Pittsburgh and it worked We'll never know. Well, we will know in about a year from now but Interesting move. This is not one that I saw coming at all at all, but It is what it is Thank you very clean I love y'all subscribe because again free agency is crazy as y'all know it is turn your notifications on because this as you have Seen already it's gonna be a lot of videos about a lot of different teams and this thing is wow But I love y'all y'all stay up keep your heads up. I hope you having a great day. We out


I'm ready to intro. OK, excellent. Hi there. My name is Eva Galperin, and I will be hosting your panel for this afternoon. I just wanted to give you a pretty good idea of who it is that we're going to be talking to. We're going to be talking to Tara Hariston, who works at Kaspersky and is sort of fundamental to keeping the coalition against stalker wear together. She is basically the glue and the organization, and I cannot thank her enough for existing. We are also going to talk to Harlow Holmes from the Freedom of the Press Foundation. Harlow does a lot of work with victims of stalker wear and is going to talk to us a little bit about what it's like to sort of work with the people on the ground. And finally, we're going to talk to David Rees from Malware Bites, and he's going to talk to us a little bit about sort of what is stalker wear and what we're doing about it and how it's being detected and how the sort of treatment of stalker wear has changed over the last couple of years. All right, so let's go ahead and get started. I wanted to go ahead and start by asking some questions of David. So David, thank you so much for coming. Thank you. Thanks for having me. So do you want to begin with telling us what is stalker wear and how does it work? Yeah, yeah, it's a broad question, super simple answer. And honestly, I think it's really interesting because it's something that I didn't know about five years ago, four years ago. The really basic answer here, stalker wear is typically a mobile application, not always, but typically, very often, these are mobile apps that are put onto people's devices without their consent that allows for them to be spied on. They are privacy invasion enablers. They're digital tools to look into someone's life, again, that very frequently, you do not have the consent to do. So on a person's device, stalker wear can pry into your emails. It can look into your text messages, your SMS messages. Stalker wear can reveal your GPS location as it's happening. By the minute, it can also reveal GPS location history. So that can reveal patterns, routines of what you do.  That can reveal where you live, obviously. That can reveal the people you visit, the people who are important to you, who you visit once a week. Let's say you visit your parents, your grandparents. It also, frequently, stalker wear can pull into someone's photos, their videos. It can pull deleted photos, which is exactly what it sounds like. If you have a phone and you say, OK, let me get rid of these photos, it can actually pull from those photos that you believed were deleted, that your phone told you were deleted. And it can pull them for someone else to look at. Again, these are all things that, I think, on their own are startling, are quite scary. Put together, again, they become these tools that can enable such severe degrees of privacy invasion. Kind of briefly as well, they let someone else take photos with your device without you knowing. They also sometimes allow live streaming. So as an example, if I had stalker wear on my device and someone was viewing it, right now they would see me through my front camera. It can live stream, which is as horrifying as it sounds. We've tested these things. I've used them on test devices specifically for writing research. They work exactly as it sounds to a terrifying degree. So that's what stalker wear is kind of in a nutshell. It is something that, slow and behold, lets someone stalk someone. From the perspective of a person who's installing stalker wear on somebody else's phone, what does this process look like? Like, where do you go? How much does it cost? What does it look like when you are looking at all of somebody else's information? Yeah, yeah. It's a fantastic question. And the broad answer is it's really, really, really easy. It's like disconcertingly easy to get this stuff, to download it. It's disconcertingly easy to install it onto someone's device. So the way it works, right?  And you're like, how do I spy on my partner? How do I spy on my wife? How do I look at my wife's text messages? You will find results. You will find results and you will find tools online that don't just answer that one question, right? How do I look at someone's text messages without their consent? It's how do I look at someone's text messages without their consent and then also their GPS location and then also their photos, their videos. They are suites. They are entire suites of software that provide their suites of accessibility. And I've done it before myself, right? Again, to do this research to see how easy is it? Is it as easy as one assumes? And all you really need is physical access to a device for about five minutes as wild as that sounds. And I know if you're saying right now, oh, five minutes, I mean, we're so attached to our phones right now. When's the last time I'm away from my phone for five minutes? Every day, believe it or not, every single day, you actually are away from your phone for five minutes. To interject, I've done it in less than a minute. There you go, right? It doesn't even need to be like, oh, I'm in the shower. I'm in the bathroom.  I'm folding my laundry in another room. I'm checking my email in another room and I don't have my phone on me. It is shockingly easy to do. It does not require a high technical knowledge. It is really as simple as drag and drop sometimes, and then opening the phone up and pressing the app button. Also, these apps often can hide themselves from view. So once you've run that tool on someone's device, it's hidden. It goes away. Sometimes it hides as a different type of app, as a system update, as a calculator, as something banal. Sometimes it's just not there at all. And there's no way you're going to find something like that. It is not there. Visually, it is not there. So very easy. So how widespread is the stalkerware problem? And what indicators can we use in order to make a guess at this? Yeah, it's something that we in the cybersecurity community have struggled with because you want to get a good view of what is happening out there. How widespread is this? Like you said, what is the scope? And we have to do some rough estimation here. We have to do some back of the envelope math. This isn't precise stuff. But luckily, many of the companies within the coalition against stalkerware, Spurski is one, Malorbytes is one. We have many other partners. They have began releasing numbers on either the number of users affected in a given year, the number of detections they make. So the way that works at Malorbytes is if we find an app or if we prevent an app from getting installed, that counts as a detection. Avira, Avast, they're putting out numbers like that. Basically for 2020, so for the past calendar year, I looked at our numbers at Spurski's numbers and at Avast's numbers. And everyone had collected at minimum 40 to 50,000 of these detections or number of users who were affected. Again, things aren't perfect here. You can't say, OK, well, it's just 50,000 plus 50,000 plus 50,000 equals 150,000. There might be instances where people have both of our apps. And so that's one case, but it's producing a double result. That also probably doesn't happen that often, but you can't discount it. But more than anything, what is most important is that even if we have that number, even if we just look at Malorbytes, our number was like 52,000 last year, that's the people who have Malorbytes. For Spurski, I think it's also around 53,000, 54,000. That's people who have Spurski. There are many people who do not have our tools. There are many, many, many, many people who do not have our tools on their devices. There are many people who don't have Malorbytes because Malorbytes maybe isn't even supported in that country.  It's where are we available? And so if you look at something like 150,000, that kind of rough, again, very rough estimate back of the envelope math, not perfect, that's already a ton in my mind because of think of all the things that we're missing. And it's also a ton because even if that number was a 10th, even if you came to me and you said, we have the perfect data, doesn't exist, but we have the perfect data, let's say only 15,000 people a year globally are affected by this, think of the severity of the harm. I don't care if it's only 15,000. I don't care if it's only 150,000. These tools can and have been used. There is documented use that this intersects with domestic abuse, with domestic violence. The harm here is physical violence. We've seen this before. So again, if you're curious like, oh, is 150,000, is that that many people? Yes, yes it is. Drastically so. The privacy invasions here are not just theoretical. They are not just privacy invasions. These are privacy invasions which do and have led to physical violence. It is an extremely severe problem. So the last year, year and a half, we've all been dealing with COVID-19 and lockdown. Can you talk a little bit about how COVID-19 and lockdown have affected the use of Stockerwood? Yeah, the bad news is it made it worse. Like, what a terrible headline to come away from it, right? Everyone's going through a pandemic. And somehow the use of Stockerwood also increased. We saw this kind of across the board with several companies. So at Mauribytes, we detected an increase from January of 2020 before lockdowns really started taking effect to June of 2020. We saw something crazy. Like, we saw this insane up ramp of like 500 or 800% to be perfectly honest with you. Those numbers are insane. I think they're crazy. I want to couch them and be like, let's not say that it's a perfect thing. But I do want to communicate that it's still happening, right? Like, it didn't go away. And luckily, we're also supported by the fact Avast put out numbers. And they showed that in the first four months of like when lockdown really started happening across the globe. So March through, I believe, July. Comparing March through July to January and February, again, before lockdown procedures really started to take hold in every single country, they had a 51% increase across the globe. And I believe like an 80% increase in just the UK. 50%, 80%. Our numbers are very, very high. But they're supported by the fact that there was an increase. There was an increase. And I remember thinking to myself, perhaps quite naively, why is this happening? Like, what's going on? Isn't lockdown a, if you're locked down, can't you see what someone's doing? Even if you are an abusive individual, can you not see? Like, what is this thing doing that is sort of like checking a box of abuse for someone? And I was thinking it too narrowly, right? I have to also consider, and thankfully, right? This is part of what the coalition does. There are smarter people than just myself. Smart people who work with victims, who worked with survivors every day who understand these things. I have to consider that there are situations where a survivor lives separate from their abuser. And something like lockdown, which says you can to visit someone in their home, that drives already a violent and abusive person into an even greater loss of control, right? It's, they're more irrational. And again, I always worry about saying these things like explaining an abuser's mindset because that doesn't excuse it, right? I have to be very clear here. Being separated from someone doesn't, it doesn't suddenly make it make sense that you want to stalk them, that you want to spy on them. No, these are bad behaviors. In many situations, these are crimes. But even if they weren't crimes, they are bad behaviors. These are not normal outcomes. So again, I had to think about that. What's happening out there? What is driving the increase? And there are, again, it kind of comes back to the fact that every use of stalkerware, every domestic abuse situation is nuanced. That's why there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution to this problem that we're gonna talk about more in depth today. And unfortunately, in the pandemic, all of those nuances led to increased use. All right, so that's terrible news. Yes, it is. On that extremely unhappy note, Ms. Harlow, I'd like to spend a little bit of time talking about what life is like for the people who are working directly with survivors of domestic abuse and what the situation looks like on the ground. Harlow, could you talk to us a little bit about the work that you're doing and the kind of abuse that you are seeing in kind of your typical situation? Okay, yes. First and foremost, thank you very much for inviting me. And before I do get into that, I wanted to comment on what you just said, David, which I thought was pretty interesting, very, very intriguing, which is even if you are locked down, you can't see what someone is doing. And I think behaviors like that, where you mentioned that these are dangerous and sick and cruel behaviors, even taking place during lockdown kind of points to the irrationality of your typical abuser, where that person can be in, as Eva mentioned, they can be in the laundry room, they can be 10 steps away from you, they can be in the same bed as you, and they just wanna know what you're looking at on your phone.  I would like to give a little bit of a shout out to Dragana Curran, who is an amazing writer and researcher who wrote a very, very excellent piece called Sharing Spaces with Men during the COVID-19 pandemic, where she takes a global look at these effects of women feeling compelled to give men that they are locked down with access to their bodies, access to their time, access to their emotional space. But that said, I would like to preface that as I'm sitting on this panel because I have an amount of experience that is not at all the same as my co-panelists and it actually becomes a security route. I work in digital security, I'm the director of digital security at Freedom of the Press Foundation. And before coming to this particular role, I started to learn about these technologies and the capabilities and how they can be abused coming from like the human rights defense space. And that learning how stalkerware, malware, abuses of like all sorts of other characteristics of a mobile device that I'm about to talk about work put me in a position where friends or family members or even friends of friends of mine who knew that I was the person who knew about these things would reach out to me like after hours in order to have advice. So we do not at Freedom of the Press Foundation officially have at all any kind of incident response or program that addresses domestic or intimate partner violence. However, I always did find it fascinating that not only from a technological perspective about how these systems of surveillance work but also from a level on how to interact with people who go through this particular type of trauma. So... Miss Allen? Yes. Would you characterize this as like a problem that is strictly men spying on women or do you see something different? It can be different. It actually can be different. The difference actually does often have to do with positions of power, ultimately positions like seeking out positions of control and getting a particular amount of satisfaction at exercising whatever power you have over the person that you are trying to oppress. And once again, I do not come from like a psychological background and I would not want to mischaracterize my ability to address those types of trauma. But that is definitely something that I had learned in the more personal interventions that I've had to do on behalf of friends and family and friends of friends, et cetera, with certain types of incidents that I see working as a digital security professional, working with journalists who have also been subjected to certain amounts of like spyware or suspicion of spyware, physical and digital surveillance and helping them un-node and understand exactly like what the capabilities are, how that may or may not have affected them in the long run and how to empower them in order to take steps to make changes. And so that has been a very, very interesting like interplay between what I had seen personally and what I can provide when I'm working with someone who comes from that same place of trauma but from like the journalist space. All right, if I can interject for a moment, I've actually seen a really interesting dynamic where so frequently I am approached by survivors of abuse and I'm approached by people who have experienced physical abuse from their abusers. And I would say probably about two thirds of the time it is women, but about a third of the time it's men. But a really interesting dynamic that I have seen is that occasionally the survivors of abuse are trying to take control back by spying on their abusers and they ask me, how do I spy on this person? This person is cheating on me, this person is beating me, this person is lying to me. They're a bad person.  And what I tell them is essentially you cannot fight back against an abuser by becoming an abuser yourself. And that is a dynamic that worries me very much. Like you already know this person is abusive, please let me help you get out. Getting out is much more important than sort of trying to regain control because trying to regain control or getting the sort of upper hand in the relationship is just continuing the cycle. Yes, it puts you in a pattern. It definitely does, yeah. So can you talk about sort of generally or even specifically about the kind of cases that have come to you? Yeah, so I have rarely myself seen instances of the type of spyware that David and Tara are going to talk about. However, what I see mostly, what they think is unique, is a lot of like misconfigurations that make it more, make a stalker, an abuser more successful, such as, let's say user-generated content, which will on an Instagram post show exactly where it is that you are, that leads to like physical stalking or having the configurations on whatever social media platform that you use that displays your latitude and longitude automatically and not necessarily knowing that there are options to pare that down and turn it off. A lot of abuse does or surveillance can come from like the morass of like shared family plans. So like, someone can get a huge amount of your telephone data if they are on this, if they control the plans that all of your phone lines are on and can like audit that. And also things like shared iCloud accounts forgetting that you've allowed certain people to like find you by your phone and you have that capability still turned on on the phone. Yeah, there are... So yeah, what's that? Do you see a telephone? Yes, definitely. In cases, actually I do very vividly remember an incident when someone, when they were breaking up with their partner, did not remember that they had shared their passwords because that was like the contract that they had had in the beginning when things were better. And then as things became more dangerous, more abusive, forgetting that this person could still access their email account because they had a shared account where they had like a certain password and that password was reused on this other email account. Those are things that I have seen most of the time. So that's just like one example. So what do you usually recommend to people when they come to you and they say, I think my device has been compromised or I think my account has been compromised or like I have no idea what to do and I don't understand what's wrong. What is the order in which you look for compromises and then what kind of advice do you give to people? So there is definitely like that type of due diligence that you should do to look for like weird profiles on the phone, depending on your operating system. Like is someone or has someone installed something that perhaps if you can't see it but you do notice that like from a network perspective you should not be connecting to the internet via this particular route. Or that you have like certain like safeguards on your phone that make it possible for people to have installed something on your phone behind your back. So on Android, for instance, why is play protect disabled? Or on your iPhone, like your iPhone might have been jailbroken. So that's the due diligence first and I would tend to like perform that on my own because when I do not find that and once again in personal experience working with people that I know I actually have not gotten that but I just know from my experience in the field at Freedom of the Press Foundation as a mobile developer that that's what you should do. But then when you can assuage those fears personally then going to the people and just I give them like the security lesson that any of us might receive at any of the events that we attend such as understanding why in this particular situation what someone can do if you have shared passwords and how people ultimately can pivot onto other things other assets that you thought you had been able to keep private because you didn't remember that you had this shared reuse password out in the wild and why that's important. I also one thing that I've had moderate success with is telling people that it's never you know like such a horrible thing to start over again with a person and with a phone. Factory setting a phone is not as scary as it needs to be and often especially in cases of intimate partner violence when people are like not only gas lit but also in addition to like potential physical violence there's a high high probability of like financial control allocating the resources to get another device unless you're going to go to like organizations that do provide like brand new devices or just new devices for survivors. You might want to just like hold someone's hand as they wipe their phone and reset it and set it up to how I think that they should. All right, just as a quick interjection sort of the order in which I usually approach this I start with sort of the most common thing which is I look for misconfigurations and I look for you know human leaks of information. Then I usually tell them to essentially change their locks. So what you do is you change all of your passwords you install a password manager. Password manager to factor authentication from onto FAA. Make sure you're getting, make sure you're receiving alerts about like attempts to log in to your stuff. Yeah, and then there's also a whole bunch of other like you know just ways of like creating I guess like the psychosocial support that you need if that all becomes so overwhelming because it's a lot, it can be a lot of data. Yeah, and that's a lot to ask a survivor to do they're going through some stuff. And then finally after all of that if the problems are persisting then usually I tell them to if they have an Android download an antivirus program and run a scan. And if they have an iPhone to go through the domestic abuse manual that Apple recently put out and that I will link to in the chat. So now that we've made it through sort of you know the this malware is very bad and here's what it looks like when you when you're dealing with humans every day. Let's talk to Tara. Tara can you tell me a little bit about the coalition against stalkerware like how did it get started and what are they doing? Sure, well as always Ava thank you so much for having me and allowing me to participate. So the coalition against stalkerware launched in November 2019 we had 10 organizations to start five advocacy groups including EFF and then five cybersecurity vendors including malware bites and Kaspersky and we really been focused on kind of raising general awareness around the threat of stalkerware but we also have some other specific activities that we're engaging in things like sharing stalkerware samples amongst the technical companies that participate in the coalition to make sure that we're all detecting these things at the same level and that it's a real robust and healthy dialogue around what constitutes stalkerware because as David mentioned in his remarks the functionality can vary but we have that general overarching conception that it's something that enables a former surveillance without notification and consent and that tends to inform the detections that a lot of the companies are undertaking so that's a really big effort. Another thing is how do we interact with a number of different communities of interest? You know there's so many stakeholders that have to be aware of this issue to make sure that we can best support survivors as well as the organizations that work on their behalf. So we try to have resources available for survivors for things that they can look forward to determine whether stalkerware may be present on their device. We also are engaging with law enforcement so actually just about a month ago Interpol announced that they would be kind of collaborating with the coalition on how to educate national law enforcement agencies about stalkerware and tech-enabled abuse more generally so hopefully that information and that awareness and that sensitivity to the psychological harms that Harlow was mentioning can be filtered down to local officials throughout 190 plus countries. And then I would also say that we're trying to quite frankly have some conversations with tech. The industry really needs to understand the importance of not only stalkerware but stalkerware as an example of tech-enabled abuse because I think to what David was describing the numbers seem quote unquote small but it's actually really just kind of a symptom of these dynamics of power and control that tend to be pervasive in intimate partner violence relationships. And so there may be other forms of tech-enabled abuse like what Harlow was describing in terms of misconfiguration device or account compromise stalkerware would be a very small part of that continuum of violence but it is violence nonetheless. So I think we need to have a lot of conversations amongst our own industry quite frankly to understand the harms that this sort of technology can cause. And then lastly I would say we try to have a lot of discussion with media. I know you and David have had conversations with media on articles about stalkerware and other issues because quite frankly stalkerware has been a little bit sensationalized. It's kind of the quote unquote sexy issue that a lot of media tends to report on. But again, we want them to be very conscientious again of the psychological harms that are involved but also to treat this as kind of quite frankly another public health issue. We see that in terms of suicide prevention they provide the hotlines. We want them to do the same with domestic violence hotlines when they write about these sorts of issues as well because they are so interlinked. It's not just a matter of the technology. We often say within the coalition that stalkerware is not a technical issue. It's actually an abuse and crime issue and therefore we need the reporting that kind of frames these issues in the world to kind of take the acknowledging that fact. Can you talk a little bit about how law enforcement currently views stalkerware and sort of what do they do generally if somebody comes in to talk to the police and says essentially there's... Look, there's stalkerware on my phone. What do I do? Well, I think we still have this challenge with law enforcement and this is not true of everyone so I'm not casting aspersions here. But quite frankly, there tends to be a sense of disbelief that law enforcement or any criminal justice system actor tends to express when a survivor approaches them and says, hey, I think I'm being stalked. I think I'm being spied on through my devices because it just seems so fantastical. And so unfortunately a lot of survivors because of the general reaction tend not to approach law enforcement but I think when they do, law enforcement tends to sometimes be under resource to deal with any forensic crime. They tend to kind of kick it over to national law enforcement agencies which is why it's so important that the coalition is going to be partnering with Interpol. And as a result, it really just kind of lends to this overarching view from the survivor's perspective that society and the people that are supposed to protect us are not going to do so because they just can't engage with the level of psychological trauma that someone experiences by feeling like they're being surveilled all the time, that nothing belongs to them, that their minds don't belong to them because someone has access to their devices. And it just doesn't seem like something that's within the realm of possibility. So unfortunately we hear anecdotally that quite frankly, a lot of times law enforcement is not very responsive with someone approaches them about these issues. But definitely spying on somebody else's phone without their consent, spying on their stealing of their passwords, logging into their accounts, listening to their phone conversations. Isn't that illegal? The quality of the internet is, but I think there's a little uncertain, you've mentioned this and discussed this in other fora about like wiretap statutes and things like that. So yes, but I think what often happens is that similar to quote unquote, other crimes, there has to be certain threshold that is met for law enforcement to take action, which is really unfortunate in economic crimes. It's like, okay, if it's at a certain dollar amount, we'll take action if it's below that amount and we'll wait. Unfortunately, it seems to be a very similar approach when it comes to law enforcement in terms of these cases. And so, and law is very different. Even within the US, so they're across the globe, a lot of countries have statutes around domestic violence, but they don't necessarily consider that technology can be used to perpetrate domestic abuse and intimate partner violence. So it always is this question of, do we need to have a specific law for like technological abuse, or can we at least acknowledge that, okay, technology is being used to perpetrate abuse and violence, then that should be sufficient. But again, what do these law enforcement officials consider the threshold for action? And so I think it may be a bit different if there's maybe, if it's not necessarily a criminal proceeding, but maybe it's like to request an order of protection, for example, but you still have to kind of show a pattern of behavior. You have to provide a certain amount of evidence, quote unquote, in order to convince whether there's law enforcement or the criminal justice system, magistrates things of that nature to engage. And unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be even the horrifying fact that there are thresholds, there doesn't even seem to be a uniform threshold. So it's this very unfortunate dynamic where it's very ad hoc in terms of how law enforcement responds to these, despite the amount of evidence and the experience that someone is presenting to them. The response, unfortunately is to put it mildly less than optimal. One of the most common sort of bits of feedback that I get when I talk about stalkerware is the response, there ought to be a law, you ought to make this illegal. And then I have to tell them, I have terrible news for you, it's already illegal, but law enforcement doesn't do much because incentives are simply not aligned. Can you talk a little bit about the Safe Connections Act because it's really exciting when there's actually a law that might be useful for helping victims of domestic abuse. Yeah, sure, and the Safe Connections Act is something that would allow a victim or survivor of domestic abuse to be removed from shared phone plans. So again, going back to something that Harlow mentioned, a lot of times this is not about stalkerware. And it's having, a lot of times the abuser might be the purchaser of the family phones. And so they may have, because they're purchasing it, they may have had the opportunity to install the stalkerware even before the survivor gets their hands on that device. And oftentimes they're not able to separate themselves from the phone plans because of the way that phone plans typically work. So the Safe Connections Act is legislation pending in this Congress that would allow survivors to remove themselves from those shared phone plans, particularly because this isn't just a matter if they are cohabitating with their abuser. This is also an issue that can persist. Maybe once they've left the home, this is something that can persist even if they're just co-parenting children because that's another vector, which is just so infuriating to me that this isn't just about adults. A lot of times the abusers will leverage the children in common to act as a mode of surveillance on the survivor. And a lot of times that could be through the devices that maybe they've procured for the children. So things that enable survivors and empower them to have the access to technology but not have that access compromised by an abuser and not be dependent on the abuser for that access to technology. Something like the Safe Connections Act is really important. It's been great to see the advocacy that's been going on around those issues in Congress. And then also, for example, there's the Violence Against Women Act reauthorization that the House passed in March. Actually for the first time has language related to technological abuse, including the definition of domestic violence. So there's definitely a lot more attention on these issues but unfortunately with everything in Congress, it takes a very long time. And so in Congress' two year cycle, so we don't necessarily know timing of when some of these things are gonna move but it's definitely a positive direction to see that there's been some awareness of how technology can interplay with these issues of abuse, power and control. Fantastic, thank you so much. So we're gonna go ahead and get started on Q&A because there are so many questions. And I will simply read off the questions and then whoever feels like fielding it may go right ahead. The first question is, if someone with a technical and or legal background wants to get involved in helping victims, where can we start? What organizations do offer incident response for victims of stalkerware? Anybody? Yeah, I'll take that. Thank you for that question too. Please join, help us.  And what that is is it's not just running an antivirus scanner to look for one of these pieces of stalkerware. It's also like Harlow was saying, it's looking at system configurations. It's looking at what's open. It's looking at, do you, just asking questions, have you shared your passwords? When's the last time you changed them? Who has them? Have you ever had shared account access which is completely normal? Like that's not a thing that people should be blamed for whatsoever. That's part of being alive today, right? And it's just going through those questions one by one and helping folks out. The only one that I specifically know of is actually all the way in New York and it's run by the clinic to end tech abuse. I think it's CEDA, yeah. And that's actually run out of either Cornell or... Cornell, Cornell, you know. Cornell, yeah, there we go, okay. Almost a whiff to that one. But they run that, they run that tech clinic and I think it's a fantastic model. Like I really do. I think it's a great model because as we've learned about today, just in the past like 40 minutes, these aren't, you know, it isn't like a survivor is saying I am being spied on, my Google Drive is being rifled through, someone knows what photos I've taken and without any follow-up, someone could say that's that piece of stalkerware. Like it isn't that at all. If it was, it would be easier to stop these kinds of things but of course it is not that. So a lot of this work requires person-to-person support. It requires advanced safety planning, right? Is it safe to even reach out to the National Network to End Domestic Violence to reach out to a domestic violence hotline? For many individuals, it is not. It is not because their device could be compromised. It is not because they are being stalked, they're being watched. So again, I know that CEDA is the one that does it. There are, there's at least one clinic that does it. I hope that there are others but CEDA has been very, very open, at least with me, without ever knowing them. You know, as much as I talk about stalkerware, my title at Mauerbytes is I'm a writer, right? I write about stuff and they were very, very open to talk to just a guy who wanted to talk about stalkerware. So they may know more places is what I'm saying. They may know more folks who are engaging in that model. I know more. There we go. Eva, if I could just really briefly, you know, similar to the clinic and tech abuse, there's also the technology enabled course of control institute out of the city of Seattle. But, you know, so there are definitely these models that are kind of like as David said, this kind of security audit approach. But quite frankly, I would recommend that anyone that's interested in helping survivors with these issues, go to your local DV program, your local domestic violence shelter. Because quite frankly, what also is the challenge is that domestic violence professionals, you know, people that are either advocates or, you know, service providers don't necessarily feel like they have the ability to help the survivors if there's a technology component to the abuse and violence that's happening. So, you know, we have a partner, for example, in the coalition, Operation Safe Escape, which is like this network of volunteers that do provide direct services to survivors. But even if you don't want to or cannot join these particular examples, reach out to your local domestic violence program. Sure, they would welcome any support that you can provide to help people with these sorts of technology issues. Do you find that the networks that you work within are struggling with capacity? And I mean, do we have any grand ideas about how to address that other than, you know, more people like the person who just asked that beautiful question? I think from my perspective, it is definitely, this is one of the things, for example, the coalition's trying to do. So one of the main constituencies obviously are the support organizations, those that provide service or advocate on behalf of survivors. And we are actually in the process of finalizing kind of an introductory technical training on things to look for when you suspect that there's either stalker wear or some other form of tech abuse that we want to deploy as widely as possible. And once the resources are finalized, we are going to share them as broadly as we can and anyone can then help disseminate and socialize that content with the networks that they work within. So I think it's going to be providing resources and information, again, empowering the organization as well as the survivors themselves to protect themselves, but also, you know, quite frankly, a lot of times it comes down to funding. A lot of DV programs are very under-resourced and underfunded. So if organizations have the ability to not only volunteer time, but also to volunteer or provide financial resources that may allow them to tap into these networks more broadly, that's something that I would also recommend. Eve, I'm sure you have other... Oh, oh, I do. So we've talked a little bit about Operation Safe Escape and the National Network to End Domestic Violence and CEDA in New York. But I also wanted to point out that, yes, a lot of people sort of freelance this. If it becomes known that this is the kind of work you do, people start seeking you out. And if that starts happening to you, what I really strongly recommend doing is learning a little bit about trauma. Just really take the time to learn about, you know, the trauma-informed approach to providing technical support because technical people can end up hurting a lot more than they're helping when they think they're helping you out. And I think it's really, really important if you have the technical skills to learn the dealing with trauma skills, get the soft skills on this. And if you have the soft skills and you're already very good at trauma-informed support, then learning the technical skills. But you absolutely need to do both because one or the other by itself is just not that helpful. So the next question that we have is, can you talk a little bit about air tags and similar devices? Who wants to talk about air tags? I'll start a bit. I personally have never seen that used against someone, but I can definitely imagine that being used against someone. Ultimately, they're tiny devices and Apple isn't the first, you know, company to kind of come up with this idea, but little devices that you can attach to actual objects, non-networked objects in order to locate them when they go missing. So like another one is Tile, for instance, if you're thinking about like Tile from way back, they're ultimately like, you know, a variety of Bluetooth-enabled and somewhat networked depending on like the protocol devices that you can attach to, you know, like your keys or like throwing your bag or something like that. And I do think that while, you know, like I haven't personally seen anyone have that used against them, I can once again imagine a situation where, you know, someone does have like an air tag or a Tile or whatever, like just kind of like dropped in their bag without their knowing and that being used as like a tracking beacon. As far as like, well, and I'll ask the rest of you about mitigation there. Well, to interject a little bit, I air tags have been available for purchase for a couple of weeks now. I already, you know, bought one, tested it, tore it apart, yelled a lot about Apple's really insufficient mitigations for stalking, pointed out that Tile has no mitigations for stalking, yelled at Amazon for saying, oh, we're gonna partner with Tile because we think that Tile isn't invasive enough and we think that it should talk to all Amazon Echoes.  But I have already seen air tags being used in domestic abuse cases. I actually just talked to a person who works directly with domestic abuse shelters who told me about two cases, one of which involved a Tile, which had been, not a Tile, sorry, an air tag, which had been stuck to the bottom of a car in order to track the vehicle and the other involved a air tag that had been slipped into the pocket of a partner's purse, which they knew that they simply never opened that pocket. So the abuse is real and the harms are not purely theoretical at this point. Does anybody else wanna talk about air tags and Tiles and just sort of this particular class of objects that we're starting to see? Eva, just really briefly, I'm not gonna talk about the air tags or Tiles because I don't have the sophistication and kind of knowing the details. But I guess what this really kind of points to from my perspective is that it's really important for us to understand that stalking can be enabled by technology that's been around for years. We tend to be kind of thinking about this as like a more recent phenomenon or something that's kind of, something that's only gonna be a problem with emerging technology, but location tracking is not new. We make the devices smaller and smaller but these technologies been around for quite some time. And so think about that when we're talking about these issues. Again, stalkerware still tends to be a fairly small subsection of tech enabled abuse. And this is a call not just to people that are interested in the issue to kind of understand that your car, even without a location tracker, but just with the general GPS service has been available for nearly 20 years. There have been cases where people have used the GPS tracking on a car to stalk a former partner. So think about that. But I also, this is kind of my little soapbox call for action with tech. Like, Eva, you were saying, have a survivor centric trauma informed approach to helping survivors. It's also have a trauma informed survivor centric approach to technology design and development. That this is not just about some edge case. This is thinking about how this is not just about your intentionality. This is like, okay, I have to think through the perspective of an abusive person, an abusive persona, how could they use my technology? Even if it's being used as intended, it can still be used to perpetrate violence and abuse. So it's really important that we think about this very holistically, because it's not an edge case. In some cases, it's not a stress case. The technology is being used exactly as you meant it to be used, but it can still perpetrate abuse and violence. That is an excellent point. Thank you so much. David, do you have anything to add? Just off of Tara's point, fantastic. The call to action that folks inside tech companies should consider more uses, 100% yes, absolutely. But I wanted to also add that we've all seen this before, where the people who are responsible for this, the words we use, they're champions. They're quality champions. They're survivor champions. And I appreciate every champion that we have. I love every one of them, many kudos and thank you to them. But I do wish that companies stopped relying on people to do more than they are being asked to do. I wish that companies stopped relying on the fact that they're hiring someone who out of their goodness is deciding to advance a product, right? Make those parts of the design, make that the job. Make that the job description. Make that the design process. We are barely scratching the surface in another area about making products that are accessible to all populations, right? To accessible to people who are handicapped, whether developmentally in any way. And we're just barely getting to that point where we're considering, what about someone who's colorblind? What about someone who's dyslexic? What about someone who can't read at this certain level? Standardize that. Make this part of the job. Again, I thank every champion out there, but if we keep relying on champions, we're not gonna get anywhere. We're just gonna have one-offs. We're gonna have ad hoc things. We don't spell. Yeah, exactly. Wish we could move forward on it, that's all. And if I could also just to piggyback on what David just said. It's also really important that when you do reach out to those that are doing the work with survivors, like National Network to End Domestic Violence, the Stock and Prevention Awareness and Resource Center, or your local DV program, if you're a tech company and you're like, okay, I care about this issue. I see why it's important. Don't assume that you can take advantage of their expertise without compensating them in the way that, compensating them for their expertise in their time.  And you will pay for that service. Recognize that these people are experts in their field as well. And therefore that if you're gonna take advantage of that expertise, obviously for hopefully beneficial reasons to make sure that your products can be less abusive, then make sure that you're thinking through, not just engaging with them, but compensating them for that expertise just as you would some other technical resource that you might be consulting for a product or something else. Just make sure that we're thinking about that their expertise is just as valuable as expertise within your company. Fantastic. And we have one last question, which is what would you say to someone who is considering using stockerware or air tags or some other form of tech enabled stocking against their partner? Anybody wanna start? Oh, come on, it can be yelling. Yeah, it's hard, right?  Like really quickly, don't do that. And there's part of you that's like, well, how do I, how do I meet someone in the middle? There is no middle, there isn't a middle here, okay? It's wrong, like someone else, take this, you know? I mean, I'm only assuming that this person, if they're talking to me, it's because they don't necessarily realize that they're entering into or they're about to enter into like an abusive pattern with someone. And I, yeah, because otherwise, no, I wouldn't talk to that person at all. But definitely telling them exactly what David had said, that there is no middle. And it's also not like that, what you are about to enter into is technically known as abuse, technical enabled abuse.   And if that's where you're going, then like you and your divorced lawyer will help you through what you need to do, but like don't go on your own. Yeah, and that's only assuming that someone is acting in good faith and just isn't aware of the implications of what they're about to do. Tara? No, I mean, because it's so difficult. And I mean, and I'm not obviously an expert, but I know that there's, for example, members in the coalition that actually work, not only with survivors, but also with perpetrators. And I think sometimes it's, this isn't trying to meet them where they are, but it is kind of taking them through a series of questions, kind of asking them like, what is it you're trying to achieve by even thinking about this? Can you think about what kind of psychological harm you can cause to someone else? Because quite frankly, what this is a manifestation of, again, this is not a technical issue. This is really a manifestation of the fact that we as a society, and this is not just in the US, this is globally, don't think digital harm is the same thing as physical harm. And this kind of comes up in like the policy responses and law enforcement responses as well. So I think it's just kind of trying to get them to think through what they could be doing to the other person, maybe also reminding them of legal jeopardy they're putting themselves in, but it's also really making it very clear about how digital harm is harm point blank, full stop. And that they need to be thinking through what they're, and what also they're doing to themselves because there's a kind of a heightened emotional response that abusers get when they have access to these tools and they're getting all this information as well. So it's trying to kind of not meet them where they are, but really be very clear and explicit about the harm they're causing to the other person, the legal jeopardy they're putting themselves in, but also the harms that they're causing to themselves by engaging in this behavior. Fantastic. Thank you so much for participating in this conversation. All of your input is so important. You made such fabulous points. I really appreciate your having come to have this conversation. If people have any additional questions, where can they find you? Harlow? I am at Harlow on Twitter or otherwise Harlow at freedom.press. Tara? I'm unfortunately one of the uncool kids. I am not on Twitter, but you can locate me through at Stop Stalkerware on Twitter. That is the handle for the coalition. And I'm sure if there's any questions that come through myself or one of the other partners will be happy to answer them. And again, Eva, thank you so much for having us. It's a pleasure. And David, how do we find you? Yeah, yeah, I am. I'm foolishly on Twitter. Tara, you're making the right move here. And I'm at David Al Ruiz. So there I am. Fantastic. Thank you so much, everybody. It's been a pleasure. Thank you.