Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy E-CEO and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official Mr. Mako, what's going on? None of them. Man, hey man, we got a special guest here today man, this guy here don't need no introduction man. Y'all done seen him a few times man, some bangers man, I've been checking him out too man, went down that rabbit hole to find out who this guy was. Really found him before he found me for show man, hey, my boy Ty Harris is in the building, what's going on? What's happening? What's happening? Hey man, good to see you man, good to have you on the show. All good, all good. Man, so yeah, yeah, you do a lot of things man, hey that piano game is serious too. Yeah man, that's starting to become one of my things that we do. Oh man. When I get up there and I start doing all kind of classic Dallas hits, I'm probably trying to expand or some, you know, Texas Houston, I might go to Houston a little bit on the piano. I might go back there, we gonna see. Have you always done that as a child growing up? You know, not really. How old were you when you started? I've really been doing this seriously on the piano for about six months. Six months? Like seriously? Uh-uh. I'm gonna tell you though. Okay, that's seriously, but when did you first like touch a piano? Touch a piano.  I think the first thing I really like learned how to do is probably like the Halloween theme song. But that's like three notes, you know what I'm saying? How old were you? I can't even know. But like seriously doing this piano stuff, about six months for sure. I used to hit that thing, doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo-doo. That's all I got. That's what I got. That's what I got. But see I've always liked like classical music, I've always liked different kind of music so, you know, I guess the kind of musicality just come natural kind of thing. Where did you get it from? Like trickle down from like your mom, your dad? Uh, probably.  But not like, not playing the like instruments and stuff. Nobody else in your family play instruments? Uh, my uncle, like I said, my uncle, he married into the family, he was on that organ at church and then, you know, my papa, they was singing quartet, you know what I'm saying? That's about it. My brother, he was a music producer. My daddy, you know. Okay, so it's in the blood. Yeah, yeah. I'm musically inclined, you know, but as far as Nick is just walking in and just playing now. Yeah. So let's go back a little bit. Let's get you and Oakley off. Yes, sir. Morning Ray. Yes, sir. What part is you in over there? Redbird and Hampton. Redbird and Hampton. My side of 67. Yo, Redbird and Hampton. Good side of Oakley. That's Fat Pimp over on that side. Fat Pimp, Camp Wisdom. Okay, yeah, yeah. Fat Pimp, Camp Wisdom and Polk, baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's all 2-3-2, you know. Okay. See Strugs over there under. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Man, R.P. to see Strugs, man. Yeah, that was my dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love his flow, man. It's another cat I'm listening to now kind of remind me of his flow. I don't know the big dude's name. He out of Pleasant Grove. Out of Pleasant Grove, huh? Yeah, that nigga.  I ain't feel alive, but my son showed him to me yesterday. What's his name? BDX to Plugs. Yeah, BDX to Plugs. BDX to Plugs. You have to check them out. I'm gonna check them out. I'm gonna check them out. Big eggs, yeah. I'm gonna check them out. I'm gonna check them out. Big eggs to Plugs. That's some big shoes to feel. You're talking about some Strugs, man. That was my dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got a lot of work to do, but everybody gotta start. They say, evolution, right?  So you definitely want to let people win. When you training somebody how to do something, you let them win. They become more better as you let them win, you know. Right on, right on. You keep them stirring, but you let them win. Right on, right on. Without that endubit, you know. So coming up, what did you go to school at? I went to Atwell. Atwell? I went to Carter High School. Oh, you went to Carter? Yeah, David W. Oh, man. That school got a reputation. Yes, it does have a reputation. What's the reputation? I don't know about the reputation. Well, it's done had a lot of different things. Some of them kids went to jail back in the days. I remember. I like to lead with good stuff. No, no, no. They had a football team or something. I seen it on TV. It was a big deal. We've been on TV. We've been on TV. We had all the movies. The Friday Night Lights and all that. He'd leave all the good stuff. We had great athletes program, you know. We had great athletes program, you know. So, uh, the, uh. Some cold rappers come out of there too. So, man. We've had our problems, you know. We've had our... Just like any other school.  I remember the movie. The movie went on.  So, I don't really be liking them. Because when you really from them. From them. Yeah, yeah, yeah.   Come on. That's real, man. Yeah, man. So, shout out to them boys though, man.  So, you had some bangers, man. You go all the way back, man. Big and complete. All kind of stuff that you done put out there. Now, I ain't even getting up to the stuff you recently done. But just, how do you process like the whole, you know, just putting the music together? What's your process? Everybody got a process, man. I used to have like a real set in stone process. And now, I just kind of, I done gained so many tools on how to go in there and record. That is just, if I, it just depends on the situation. Like, last night I had a feature to do, right? I went in there and, you know, they had the song already mapped out. So, all I really had to do was probably take something out of my notes that fit with, you know, the message of a song, if there even is a message. Sometimes they make it easy on me, you know.  But other times, if it's like a plot in the song, for instance, Food Stamp Baby or something. I don't want to talk about that yet, but I want to get to that later. But I get it though. You know, just my example. No, no, I get it, man. That Food Stamp Baby go hard, man. A lot of people, there's a lot of stuff behind that, just that whole transition with OG Bobby Billion. But with me and my music alone, I just, I feel it on that piano and whatever tunes. And sometimes it'll just wake me up like, I know Quincy Jones said it'll just wake him up at like three o'clock in the morning. He'll just get up and he had to just do it. That's the best music. But what struck you that why you started taking it serious six months ago? What happened? The piano, yes. The music. You been doing it? Yeah. Right, but the piano. But the piano is just like, it's just natural, man. It's just like, for me, it's easier than a guitar. You know, some people just pick up a guitar and they just stroke the guitar and then they come up with a tune. But for the piano, man, it's just, man. So nothing really happened that, because before you used to play with it.  Just the Halloween theme song. Shit, I can hit that whole. But then you don't take it serious no more because you want to start hooping, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.   And the next day you be like, okay, what makes, what separates me from everybody? Exactly. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, what makes me more different than everybody else. And do you really feel like, do you really feel like when it comes down to it, man, once you hit that booth, man, it's on? Especially if you're doing it with somebody else. To be honest, it's a competitive thing. You're like, I got to make mine right. It's just because if I compete on the song, that don't necessarily mean it's a good song. No, no, no, no. If I want to go in there and I want a hard at 16, I got, yeah, I could do that. And I could get the chopping and rapping fast and all kinds of metaphors, but that don't necessarily make it a good song.  Or do you even think about that part? I see where I'm coming from. Yeah, I do.  That's it right there. And 100% me at all times. And then I think, or just reach inside myself for something that's real. If I can reach inside myself for something that's completely real, then I think the supporters and fans, they just going to gravitate toward it, period. Because I think we all got something that makes us the same in some way, form or fashion. And when you say 100%, you, who are you? Who is Ty Harris? Ty Harris is, you know, I'm... I want 100%. 100%, Ty Harris is 100% human being.  Not a lot of people like to say or talk about their mental health. Not a lot of people like to talk about their shortcomings or even the good stuff about them. Like some people, especially in the rap, everybody want to come straight from the mud. Everybody want to come straight from the gutter. Nigga, we all broke. But I know what it feels like to be broke, but I also know what it feels like to have something. I like that. What's the most difficult thing you had to talk about to everyone that took your minute to get it out because it was a difficult situation? Mental health. Give me a situation. Just not believing in myself. Just not like, man, just wanting the job to be over. You know what I mean? I think there's a fine line between suicide and homicide. And I think we all walk that type road. Yeah, so... Yeah, especially in the black community. Because I had a... That was a big thing for us with D'Riz Deshaun. We interviewed him a few weeks ago. He was saying that mental illness is one of the key elements that he has faced and the thoughts that come up with him. And the challenges of being... You know, being D'Riz Deshaun. You know what I mean? That's right. There are challenges to being Ty Harris. You know what I mean? But there's challenges to being out there. Anybody. Yeah, but when I look at the scale that you guys are on, there's things that you guys are skilling that others aren't. So we got to be real. Right, right. You know, that's not... That's not... Yeah, everybody got issues, but everybody don't have the same issues, right? Right. So your issues and my issues are different. But they're still issues. They're still issues, yeah. But if I can empathize with your issues, right?  You know what I'm saying? I think that's the... Dividing the side and the factor. I get it, man. That's what kind of... I try to lean toward. I don't want to be the dude that's just always, yeah, I'm the tough guy. I'm the nigga that, you know. I'm not here now. I'm a human being. Exactly. I get heartbroken. I ain't the mother of the pimp the other day. I ain't the pimp of the year.  But you have your pimp moments. Yeah. Yeah, you have your gangster moments. You know, but we all do because at the end of the day, we all... I'm still a man at the end of the day, bro. Don't test me.  Not here now. Yeah, now.  But scaling the way how you're scaling now and you're rising, I'm still talking about mental health because the higher you go up in the ladder, I think is the more challenge people get where mental health is concerned because we were listening to Cardi B last night and she was talking about when you do... Sorry, when you do good things compared to when you do bad things and how they jump on all the bad things that you do and they don't really like to talk about the good. But when you go out here and she cussed them out, you know, they try to talk about the good. She's like, don't even talk about me. You know what I mean? Why you have to talk about me? Let me do my stuff in peace. Right. You know what I mean? So you have a lot of challenges because with the bloggers, interviewers, TMZ, I mean, just everybody's gonna be talking about you because you hot right now. You scaling and knowing all of these things and knowing that it's gonna be even... Even worse. Worse. What do you think about that? Because you have other people who are younger who are trying to be... Because they want that limelight. You know, want that life. But don't realize all these things come with it. Yeah, I try to think objectively in all those situations as far as bloggers and... You know, a lot of people like to say bloggers are the messiest motherfuckers on the face of the earth when it comes to this rap industry thing. And I understand. But everybody has a job to do. You know, even though I'm hopefully one day, hopefully, it just costs my fingers I won't be on the bad side of that job. But everybody has a job. You know, it's journalism. Whether it's tabloid journalism or broadcast journalism or... It's still news and media. You know, that's just the blogger's example. You know, you just gotta... I gotta remember that these guys, they like traffic on their page.  But it could be hard because we are all a thousand percent human. And words hurt. Well, that's what the question is that I ask. You know, that'll get you on the blogger's page quick. I don't got many people on there because I ask questions about things that are going on within the city, within the music. Right, right. I mean, and you might answer a question. I had one the other day that I asked. And next thing you know, I look on somebody else's page. They don't took a... I've never even seen it the way they took it. Right. And they took it and... They twist it. They didn't really twist it. They just said what he said. It was just something that they took and said, you know, this guy... you know, I'll give an example. This guy got his self-shot over here. And I'm like... I'm like, wow, man. Like, when he said it on the platform, I didn't really think of it the way that the other person posted it and made it look, you know. And that's cool. You know, I'm the type of dude that... that when I'm asking these questions in here for show time, I'm asking from the heart. I ain't even... First of all, I don't know none of these people, bro. So I don't really trip, man. I love all of these people, though. See, that's the difference, see? And I got love for the city. I got love for our people, our culture. It's coming from a genuine place. Yeah, so I came here to... I showed up to give an opportunity to people to be able to stand on a platform and say what they need to say.  Somebody gonna see Ty Harris and be like, damn, you know. I can do it. I play the piano a little bit. Right. A kid. Right, right. I'm being real. Somebody...   I can't get... I can play it in church, but that's about it. Say, I took the shoot in this video and I was gonna come out in early 2022. Okay. And I brought the piano. Like I got like a custom piano, right? And we brought it to Daniel Park. And so happened. Just luckily, we brought it when they was doing like some kid function out there. And when the cheerleading function and the football function was over, the kids just kind of gravitated toward the piano. And it was cool to see that it was something different than they. Because they never... At first they were just looking like... That piano right here. And then you saw the cheerleading girl come over there to touch it. Yeah, put the pinky right here. Put your middle finger right here and your thumb right here. And as a major chord. You know, and right there.  For sure. That's what I'm talking about. That's the thing, man. That when people see you doing something, they feel like, I can do it, too. It's better than a younger kid. That's what we should be trying to develop. Their minds are so in tune to what everybody's doing on the internet. There are so much false perceptions on there.  I see him doing that. That's the talent I would love to do. And to keep him out the streets. You know, coming from Oak Cliff. The perception of Oak Cliff, a guy doing opera or any of that does not... It don't fit. It don't fit at all. You see what I'm saying? So I just... I thank God for people like you because I know already it can spark something in the youth. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. And that's real. Did you get any discouraging remarks whenever you first started out venturing into that area? Well, yeah.  Somebody always hates it. Like what? I'm talking even like not just by strangers. I'm talking by people that you know or family members and stuff like that. Indubitably. Yeah, straight up. My, uh... I got anus.  I love it. That's dope. Straight up. Well, I still love them all the same, but they be like, you know you can't sing. But I might can't, but somebody like it. Oh, man. And I'm one of them somebodies for days.  I found them on the internet and I went in the DM quick. Boom, boom, boom. Then I talk bad to them when I finally got them on the phone. I ain't never... Look, I been in your DM. You know how I do. I do. Come on, man. This is a lot of traffic sometimes. I know it. I talk so low. I think it was so low. I hit him up. I say, nigga, don't text me back. Call me. That's what I tell them. I'm an old school nigga.  Because it'd be real with me. I don't... I just... I be trying to get to what God put on my heart. And you... I had seen that probably about... maybe about a month, two months ago. Months ago. And when I seen it, you was there down on the... You were killing it, though. Yeah, I see that. I was like, dad, this thing here, baby. See them songs right there? You know, it was kind of easy to pick up on the piano because them songs we've been listening to...  I've been listening to that type song my whole life, South Side of the Realist O-Clip. That's my... Oh, you hit that whole too? You know what I'm saying? The one I just did. Ericka by the... Why that monkey on that thing? But that's the one there. Like, even if you had lunch or something and somebody hit that whole back at school, you'd be like, you know, everybody get creased down on that whole. So that's just kind of a genetic code. And you can play without actually seeing the notes and everything like that just by hearing. Sometimes. If you look at the video, sometimes... For the most part, man, it's just muscle memory, man. So how did you end up singing opera at the Marry's game years back? All right. So in school, and I had David W. Carter, I didn't... I was a hooping ass, man. I ain't think about singing. I was trying to hoop. Get them boys. Yeah, but I wasn't doing good in school. I was doing trash in school, right? But hooping like crazy. I was trying. Goddamn, you know, number two in the state do I see you here?  I told you, athletic program was amazing, but I needed an elective, you know, because my credits was whole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if I wanted to hoop, I needed an easy elective. And I went to go get some snacks one day from the choir room. I missed the athlete. Choir director up there. He was like, what you need? I was like, I want some fruit snacks. And he was like, oh, you got deep voice. You want to be in our bass section? I was like, shit, I looked at the soprano section. Hot holes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to get in that thing, man.  I was getting the choir. You know, I like music. You know, there ain't nothing to it. You know, so I got in there. It got interesting to me. And then I realized they took all the field trips.  And so after that, it just kind of got like, I'm gonna do some choir. I ain't got to go to school. I don't got truancy. Or I could just write it off on truancy. Yeah, I was doing, I was still in school. I just wasn't at school. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it just got better and better. And I started taking it serious. And I was just musically just interesting to me naturally anyway.  Next thing you know, the UIL of competition, the solo competition, I got, you know, the best performer. Wow. Whatever. Shout out Barbara Hill more at SMU. She was my judge. She gave me like the best performance in the whole UIL thing. Wow. She didn't lie. Appreciate that. No, you're a bad boy, man. And I thank God for you. Like I say, you're a brother of fresh air. We need all this, man. And right now, it's a wide open lane in Dallas whether people want to admit it or not. Yeah, I see you. It's a wide open lane and people have lost their touch with the music. People aren't consistent. They let other people trick us out of opposition. Y'all don't want to hear me tell y'all the truth. But I'm on Boss Talk 101. I got to tell you. It's Sunday. I got to preach it. Yeah. I got to preach it, man. We got to do better. That's one statement, huh? We got to do better, man.  I got a lot of better everybody. From the street niggas to the weird niggas to the women, the ratchet women, the quote-unquote class women. I think all women got a little class button they can push. I think all women got a ratchet button they can push. But just everybody as a whole. I think my music and what I stand for is just kind of like a down-to-earth kind of vibe.   Yeah, let's just go hard sometime in the club. But for the most part you got to look inside yourself and see we all still the same. You know? We ain't all drug kingpins. We ain't all got them bows going in and out. You know? Hell no. Just be human, bro. Be real. Let's be real. Let me... I seen you on the picture with E-Farty. Y'all done some work together? Yeah. And E-Farty used to talk about Old Cliff way long time ago. Straight up. Is he got cousins or something, Old Cliff? Oh, he got a lot of cousins. That's... I'm telling you, I used to hear him say this way for... He got a lot of cousins. You just mentioned one. I probably didn't say that. My bad. I'm telling you. Did you have a camera on? Yeah. Yeah, all them cameras on. But like Old Cliff, man, he always spoke highly Old Cliff, man. Even kid in play was on Vlad and he was like... Yeah. Yeah. You heard him say that? He was like, Shout out young Nino, man. He got a cool little flow. He got a cool little flow. So how did you and him end up linking up as far as E-Farty? And what is that about? Can you talk about it? Man, just the piano stuff, man. Okay. Piano stuff. My manager, E-Farty, he posted something on his story. He posted the Old Cliff freestyle on his story. And I want to say I got a call probably like five minutes later after I saw the post and... Hello? It was a different number. You're going to answer them different area of the code. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This might be the break things. This might be it. You know, I answered it and it was E-Farty.  Because, you know, it's E-Farty. I don't know the lingo. I ain't know what he was saying, but I knew where he was coming from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, Yeah, this is your Uncle Earl. It's 40 water.  You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know, we locked in. He came to the city and then he invited me.  So I brought my studio and we locked in.  It's five o'clock in the morning. Wow. How did you learn how to... Engineer? My brother. My big brother. I used to be on the game like a fly on the wall while he was recording on the mother niggas. Oh, really? That's dope, man. So was it... Did you see some things in E-Forty that you really wouldn't have expected that kind of surprised you? Being that he is one of our premier patriarchs in hip hop. E-40 remind me a lot of my big brother, just like an older version of my big brother. Okay. You know, the Scorpio kind of vibe thing. I'm into astrology like that. But the Scorpio kind of vibe, and he was just kind of putting me on game. Like he was just... So much knowledge and so much game, just oozing out of him every time he talked. I was just on it. Like, what do you mean by that? Just that in the third. He was just giving me all the games to be sold, and I told kind of thing, you know? Yeah, I like it. I like it, man. That's dope, man. He has a lot of knowledge. A lot of knowledge, man. But him too short, I met short. You met short? You on the wall up there? Yeah, sure. That's one of my guys, man. What did you learn from him? Short dog. I like how... I like how too short move. Like an aunt move. He moved cool, man. He moved on nobody. I take that from him because he don't move so super gangster. But don't nobody want to play with him. That don't make you tough, man. That don't make you real, man.  I like how everybody love him. And everybody respect him. Because I ain't moving. I love that. From Oakleaf to Oakland, man. Oakleaf to Oakland. He's going down, man. That's dope, man. So you brought them boys... So what did you meet short at, if you don't mind me asking? His studio. Oh, so you went to Oakland? I'm not going to tell where he at. Oh, okay. Atlanta? Yeah, man. I love it. Have you done work with him yet? I'm going to fly on the wall in his studio every time I go over there. I ought to get the information in. He threw me an alley-oop one time that I can't disclose. But he threw me an oop one time. I didn't realize he was doing so much game.  But, you know, that's... So is he... Okay. I'm going to get into blood, brother. Explain that to me. Give me an understanding of where that song came from. You and OG Bobby Billions. You and OG Bobby Billions, man. Oh... I don't know if y'all know anything about Billy Gang. Heck yeah. Come on, man. I'm friends with... Space Space. We was together last night. Me and Space was together last night. You Billy Gang? I'm not Billy Gang. Okay. I like to say I'm a cool little affiliate. You know? Yeah. That's my people, man. I love those guys. Yeah, man. And, you know, I went to high school with a couple of them. Okay.  Yeah, okay. You know what I'm saying? So when we were writing the song, we were doing the song in the studio. It was just kind of... He was talking about his situations. I was talking about my situations and it just kind of coincided. And it was kind of cool. But shout out Billy Gang because they're cool people, man. All of them. The one that went to Carter, the one that went to Cedar Hill, the one that went to Townview. I love them. They're heavy in the game. Yeah, straight up. Straight up. I like it. So I love the song, man. I mean, I don't know. Bobby, he get a raw deal for some of the stuff that's been going on lately. I know you probably don't want to expound. But at the end of the day, I can still ask you can apt out, you know, like some of the statements that he's made here recently on certain interviews, say cheese. He was on mine and some of the people got kind of frustrated with some of the things he was saying. I know that being from old Cliff, how do you feel about the interactions of the way Dallas, I put it like that. Yeah, the way Dallas kind of, you know, got these, whatever walls up, you know. The barriers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.  And he just kind of got the short end of a stick from the media and the people standpoint, because I think we all know when I'm going to say like this, a person is smart. People can be kind of ignorant. You know, people, people, a flock of people look for a leader. Right. And once a leader says something and they established that leader to be able to move those people, they kind of hang on that person's every word. If you catch my drift. And, and, and people are going to trend. Like I was just saying this.  It was a fad to hate on six nine or say something negative about six nine. It's a fad to say something negative about Trump. Regardless of where your political standpoint is, it becomes a fad in the trend to not like these certain people. And once you get on that end of the stick, it's hard to break away.  You got to be the villain of the entertainment business. And that's what they paint them out to be.  Correct. When I look at, just getting back to OG Bobby Billions. When I look at the music, man, it's different. I definitely like it. Yeah. He's a great song for some reason. Listen, I love the way he, his cadence is in the way his flow is different. It's got its own thing. Right, right. So did, did you have any pushback like when you was going to do the song with everything that was going on with him at the time? No, no. But, you know, I don't move like that. Okay. That's why when I talk about Too Short, I don't move like that. I don't move in a sense of, I'm beefed up.  Like I don't get into all that. Yeah. And if it is some smoke, I want to really talk to the real human being behind the internet, you know. Correct. And not even on those guys just, hey, bro, what's going on fam?   And it'd be like that. And I don't be on a type of time, but I'm not going to do the whole Instagram live.   Boy, I think it's just the worst. I really do.  It's really disgusting. Yeah. But it's just all for the traffic. It's all the traffic for the internet. But in this industry, I've found out that you have to be very, very careful of who you do work with because for the main fact that they might be beefing with somebody else. You might not have been beefing with any of these people, but because, say, example, you mentioned Yellow Beazy, but you, um, you did say you do something with him, but he beefing with somebody else, but you're looking for down the future to do work with that other person. They're not going to want to do work with you because you did something with him. I feel like if Kirk Franklin can do a song with NBA Young Boy, we can do anything. If Michael Jackson can do a song with Biggie Smalls. Hey. If, if, if, you know, we can do all things. If Michael Jackson can do a song with Biggie Smalls, if Michael Jackson can do a song with R. Kelly, Michael Jackson, but Michael Jackson didn't do something with Biggie Smalls and Tupac. Well, I think at the time, Tupac was already dead. Yeah.  But if you hadn't passed away, Michael would have done it. But Michael's so big, though. But who worked with Michael's sister? Yeah. Tupac worked with Michael's sister. Tupac worked with Michael's sister. Michael's sister, come on. Yeah, man. We just trying to create art, right? It's art, right? Let's make some money. Let's make some art. Let's do something that's going to push the, push the community forward, man. Like, come on. So Foodstown, baby. I mean, just the, the song and, and Bobby Billions, again, going and doing that with Trap. Trap Boy and him collabing after Outside, do you feel like it was too, too short? Too short? Too short? Too soon? Or you don't agree with that?  So. Yeah, straight up.  Um, I think the way it was rolled out, um, the way it was, the way it was perceived and, and everything that was going around the whole situation at the time, all the bullshit, it made that song a lot harder than what it was supposed to be to drop. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think it was a lot of instigation going around that song.  Um, and at that time, still now to this day, like I was just saying, it was a fad and it was a trend not to like a certain person that's on that song. Yeah. Just try Boy Freddy. Yeah.  Right. And so when it was dropped, of course with Bobby Billions being on the forefront of the outside song, which was perceived as the, the, we gon' ride from O3. You know, that song was, when it came, when it dropped with three's version of it, it was the video and everything, everybody holding the guns, you know, what you put in, you get back. And so all the niggas holding them guns in that video. The fans perceived it as, oh, this is the nigga that's gon' ride for three.   And then when Bobby was like, what the fuck? And he, I think he just caught on to it. He caught on to it just a tad bit too late that they was on some, trying to make you the face of the nigga that's gon' ride for three. You know what I'm saying? And then I saw when it happened. I remember it happening, like right before my eyes, because we was, me and Bobby was already kind of tight and locked in the studio this, that and third. I was going to shows and bitter end and all that. And I just remember it, man. I remember them sitting it up. And me and Bobby had a conversation in Houston.  And he was like, I don't think so, bro. You say that like, and I was like, all right, all right, I hope not.  What's going down?  And I just remember, I was just watching it on what you call them on my phone. I'm just watching as it all rolls out.   That's when these motherfuckers, the sharks came and they smelled the blood and then they attacked you.  Can he overcome this situation from your perspective? Indubitably. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So. Tahir's got to make it. So how are you, you're near Malink, y'all just. I'm a dog, man. You just rock with him. I'm a dog, man. I've had a conversation with Bobby. You know what I'm saying? I've looked Bobby in his eyes. I've played dominoes with Bobby. You know what I'm saying? How did y'all meet? His manager's birthday party I think in 2019 or 2020. That was the first time I saw a bro. Sugar's hand. It probably wasn't the first time I saw him. But it was the first time we actually had like a what's happening. Type moment. It was a show in South by Southwest that I forgot all about. He was on the same show that I was on and I didn't realize it. But now. Yeah.   Mm hmm. Mm hmm. You when I think about Bobby and what he's done and for the city, I look at it on the whole level. Another level. I'm looking at the whole picture. What Bobby's done? What he's done? What trap boys done? What yellows done? What any of those guys are done? All of this is a collective. What you've done? We Dallas, man. Yeah, straight up. You know what I mean? I'm out here in Dallas, man. I see a lot of talented brothers, man. I think our division is what's keeping everything from being productive as it needs to be. Without a doubt. I'm being real. It's so much time. Would you be willing to work with anyone from other sides of town like Pleasant Grove, North Dallas? Yeah. You see what I'm saying? Because there's talent in these areas. That guy I was just talking about. Really, I'm going to just keep me out there. I don't even know him, right?  I don't want to be involved in the mess. The music is different. There's anybody you wouldn't want to work with? Come on with it. Just don't bring me no bad news. Don't bring me no bad news. Don't bring me no bad news. Don't bring me no bad news. What's he saying on the Wiz? Straight like that.   Your music is so defining. Your music is something to where you are set apart. I think you should take it that way. I think you should scale it that way. It's something that you can't even put in. You can put it in with different people, but you're different. Everybody now here playing OPM.  I think yellow acting like that on Stevie Wonder. I love yellow. I've always liked his music a lot. No matter what he put when trapping design and all that was going on. I always say that on here. But I understand where everybody's at, too. It's a lot of people being hurt, bro. Straight up. It's a lot of life. Niggas got to take accountability for that for show. But we got to heal. Straight up. It's just one of them things. It's all bad.   Everything. Yes, everything. Like everything from this song to that song to this interaction. It was crazy. Yeah. And then when you had to pick a side. You know what I mean? You forcing people to pick sides and everything else.  But it happens. And people... I've been pushed to a situation because it was like, oh no, you dealt with him. Yeah. I'm like, what? Yeah. It is like they forcing to pick a side. But when you remain a real nigga and you remain solid, can't nobody, everybody just got to respect it. I think there's people like in the city regardless of what any situation. You got to respect the nigga like hit that hoe. Mr. Hit That. Let's hit that. You got to respect the nigga like baby. You got to respect these niggas because you know, they stood solid on the city needs to be here. Right. In the midst of the madness. You know what I'm saying? These are the type of dudes that say, oh, Ty Harris is here. You know what I'm saying? You brought up baby because there was a deal this week where people have been floating it around. He went to Dolph's funeral but he didn't go to Mow 3's funeral. Well... You see what I'm saying? That's been a narrative that people have spoken on this week because they felt like he didn't go to... And he from here. And he from here. Okay, let's think of this. Well, he's not from here. He's from Shreeport. He was talking to Mow 3 just like he was talking to Dolph. Let's think objectively and put yourself in that man's shoes.  First off, he's a grown-ass man.  Exactly. That's first and foremost. You know what I'm saying? I'm telling you, right?  He's a lot more intimate with this city and with both parties of that situation. Yeah. So... Man, I can't say that.  Lord forbid, it was the other way around. He'd probably have to choose the same path. Yeah, I get it. It just... Like I said, it's a lot of... It's a lot going on with the politics of the hip-hop culture in the Dallas area right now. It used to them be that way. You could do music back when Lucia and... I remember when Don Chief had it. These... All them different e-greedy volumes coming out. It was no problem. He could just drop music. Nobody had a problem with Don Chief, man. You know what I'm saying? And it was smooth, man. And you had Lil' Wheel and Lil' Wheel was saying my Dougie at the same time. And it was no... nothing going on. See, that was a different time, man. But am I right? Yeah, you're right. But this is the age of information, man. You're right. Everybody got their phones, everybody got their feelings and everybody got their opinions. So... Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you get them three in the mix, like this should get... this should get rough. And everybody's getting more vocal with everything. That's the problem. You gotta understand the people like Don Chief and them paved the way. The people like D'Roll paved the way. You can't sit back and say, yeah, but now, no, these niggas need to have some respect for the people who paved the way and look at how they done it, too. Yeah, I met D'Roll for the first time when I met Charleston. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That my boy right there. He been on here? Yeah, yeah. D'Roll, but you're gonna come do a check on me, man. D'Roll, true. It's time to catch, man. What they call the click over there? Primetime click. What's up? Yeah. Yeah. Now, sit on the road, man. But man, I like, you know, when he came on here, man, he spoke on the mode three thing because he was a little, you know, he was closer to kind of the mode three side, I guess, because they've been making people pick side. I ain't gonna say it because he say hung out with Yella, too. But at the end of the day, you know, because like I said, when they came, it wasn't, it wasn't, their lane was different. Yeah. They didn't have to worry about all these different things going on, man. Oh, I did my music. Oh, it hit in Oakland. Just kind of like you did in Oakland. It was kind of like the same feel. Did y'all talk about that with you?  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's very obvious what happened with him, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I'm trying, I'm trying to do a song with the road. Oh, yeah? I'm trying to get a song with the road. I gotta send them, I gotta send them. Man, I sure hope it happened, y'all. I'm gonna enjoy that, man. Yeah, man.  I like it, man. Like I said, these are people see the city in a way that everybody can work together again. Yeah, straight up. I'm being real. You know, it's not like we got like QC in this motherfucker. Like we got a QC label and all that. We talked about that on another episode. We can't, we can't. We don't have that certain brand here or brands that where everybody is like being, you got your brand.  But I mean, in our defense, in our defense, I think we, they had a head, Atlanta has a head start. LA has a head start in the music game in New York. New York has a head start in the music game. Even Florida, like in Louisiana even. We, Houston, but Dallas, you know, we just now getting our wings, just not growing our wings. And I think that's the perfect opportunity for us to excel.  But I think if you give us a little bit more time, we gonna show niggas that and we gonna show the world that it's a lot of good shit still coming about this month. Why do you think Houston don't work with Dallas a lot of times? I think Houston looks at Dallas more so as a money pot to come here and make money. Same way Louisiana, same way all these places do. They come here and they make their bag and they dip. That's what we've always spoke about here in our past form. How can we keep that money here? That's real.  You bring somebody in the city, they gotta work with some of these artists. You gotta work with some of these artists in the city, man. The big artists in the city, you gotta work with them.  Exactly. Now you're just highway robbery.  Show us some love. We showed you love. Come to the club, make your money and then we're gonna go to the studio after this. I'm gonna get like eight bars from you real quick. Just do the video and boom, you come back and I got you. You know what I'm saying?  Are you planning to take these trips to some of these smaller towns like the East Texas area? Family East Texas. Okay, where at what part? About Tyler. You got people in Tyler, Texas. Man, but you that's important too. Like when an artist start out, you have to go. There's show show money. People are looking. They hear the songs, but you got to put that work in. Whether it be Oklahoma, wherever, right? And then Cali, wherever, but you got to go out here and meet and greet and deal with these people and you got to deal with. I think these artists like our artists, I'm gonna say our artists. I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna press them real quick.  You keep yourself on.   I understand that, but at some point, you got to realize you have to you have to start getting with some of these artists coming up because when they get on, they're gonna remember that you helped them. For example, me, I'm gonna remember everybody that helped me because it's like it's it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when you know, I'm saying and I just started believing in my own little height.  But not at this at this point in time. I'm just kind of looking at all this situation and I know I don't reach that to a lot of you motherfuckers. Man, well, I reach out to you. So don't try to. But but but but you know, go ahead. Come on. Let's give you you got to reach out to everybody that they see you. They see the work. I've seen it. That's why I was like, you know, I've seen it. They see it.  There's no nothing wrong with saying, hey, bro, you go hard. Let's work because at some point like it's up for you.  Everything happens in its own due time and everything happens for a reason. The reason why some people probably don't reach out, whatever is not meant for them to whoever reaches out.  It's going to be hella lame.  Ain't on if.  I get it. That is so true. Come on, bro. I agree with that.  Why are you like that, bro? Come on.  For sure. Top three artists of all time dead or alive any genre. Number one. Artist? Yeah. Not just rappers. Anybody. Any genre. Any genre. Dead or alive number one, two and three for you. And when you say artist, can be pianist it can be anybody. Number one. Usually I get rappers. I don't care about that. I mean we all in the same game. Number one. I'ma go I'ma go I'ma go I'ma go Michael Jackson for the show. Number one. So wait a minute. Michael Jackson. That's the easiest person to say it. They say Chris Brown better than Michael Jackson. I've heard this a lot, bro. Brown got all his sauce with Michael. I say that too, but I'm telling you it's a lot of people say that about it. I know a lot of people say that. Well, who said it? One person. Who? I mean it wasn't like that. Number two. I like Beyoncé. Beyoncé. Boy, I ain't heard that one. Not by a guy anyway. Bro, bro. I love that. I love that. I just think about it.  He ain't gonna make my list but he an honorable mention.  Tough. But both of these people dance. Both of these people sing. Both of these people do amazing videos and get in there and hang some time. Put a lot into it. You know, the moonwalk of the truth. You know what I'm saying?  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if nobody died or nothing. Well, no, that's another thing about Travis Scott thing.  Yeah. Sitting up there like Michael Jackson took his shades off. You know, Michael pop up on the stage and niggas just get the out and he didn't have to pop up on the stage. He could throw his glove out to one of them. He throws his glove out to one of them. You can't compete with that and then Beyonce, that's why I bring it back.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have twins come back up still on top. Yeah, yeah. Come on, man.  You know, and these niggas just be rapping thinking they doing something.  You know what I'm saying?  So, you talk about artists. I'm a three. There you go. You're just snicker. You ain't going to be to come up with this one easy. Oh, man. You got to ex everybody else out the game. I don't think it does. Because everything is just like Chris Brown and then these is my niggas. Yeah. Number three, I'm going to go with I'm going to go with a classic one.  Go ahead. Really? Let him do it. I'm probably good. Oh, you got an offensive with it.  Go ahead. Who? I'm going to probably go with the white boys. And he started talking like them. The white boys. Yeah. Those boys can sing. You want to go with the Beatles? The Beatles? I'm going to go with the Beatles. Farmer, Carton and them. Farmer, Carton and John Lennon and Ringo. Ringo. I'm going to go with the Beatles, man. What you know about the Beatles? I know a lot about the Beatles. They just had a special on Disney Plus. They just had a special on Disney Plus about the Beatles, man. Yeah. But the outfits, the Beatles wore, you know, the colorful little shits and then our artwork.  It's a reason why Michael got their masters. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. But so. He didn't show got them too and he had affiliations with them as well. Straight up. You know, people don't, what about Prince? You didn't say no. I love Prince. He was a musician. 27 instruments. I think, yeah, I think he was the best musician. When I talk about artists with me, I think about the art.  You know what I'm saying? Yeah. As far as artists is concerned, you got to think about it because it's more than one aspect of art.  Do you, how do you feel about R&B, man? I'm an old school nigga, man. Like Brian McKnight and all these cats that nobody even talked about no more. They don't even talk about these guys no more, but these are extraordinary deal. He played instruments too. And they say, R&B coming back real soon. Well, who said it? I ain't seen it. A lot of people said R&B coming back. They got to work. They got to work. The first CD I ever got. Look at all these rappers singing now. They got to work. Look at all these rappers singing now. That's not the same, though. R&B is coming back. You talking about T-Rail and them? A lot of them. Who you talking about? The Reds or the Shugs? Yeah, everybody. It ain't like, you know, it's trickling that way. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. I can see it, but, you know, most of these niggas. Murray is not, he's in the quick ten, but no, that is not it. Not the R&B thing. It's still, that's just different, but it's dope, but it's not the same. Rod Wave. He more of a rapper than a singer. But you see what I'm saying? That's the bridge they trying to bridge it with. I signed a little bit. He doing a little something. I'll put him on the spot on Boss Talk 101. We need the piano here. I so wish I could have drug it up in there.  We done went off in there today. Oh, your kids, your son be having to app with a piano on the app on the phone. And he be playing the piano on his phone. Oh, yeah? Does that even work? I mean, it'll teach you though, right? Nah, it actually does. I got it. He do it too. I got the same motherfucker in that one. He talking about the pitch project. He be on there playing. Yeah, he be on there playing. He talking about, I'm not thinking I might need to summarize that she need a keyboard. Keyboard.  Oh, see. And you can play it just like on a piano. Let me ask you something, man. So if you could go back and talk to the younger you, that's one of my favorite questions to ask, man. And you could go back to when you was in high school. High school. And yeah, just coming in high school or something, just getting, just learning, just... Take it seriously. Take it seriously. That's what you would say. Well, that's what you would say about your 16-year-old self taking... You need to be more serious. At a younger age. Take it serious. So do you feel that if you had taken it serious at a younger age, that you reach further in life right now? I'd probably be an opera singer. I'd probably be an opera singer. Think so? I'd probably be... I'd probably never dropped out of college. I probably would have had all my grades right. Would have taken serious, be decisive. I would... Do you think if you went back and told yourself that you were 16 that you would have listened to yourself? Think about yourself at 16 years old. Probably. And think about yourself now. Yeah. You could have convinced yourself to listen to you if you didn't know that was you. Oh, if I didn't know it was me? Exactly. That's different because if I know it's me, it's real. I bet. You could get in and acted, man. You know that, though. I think about it. I think about it all the time. You could get into a... What's that boy name that came on here? Tron. Antonio. Diego trying to get it together. There's some people that's trying to get in to make the... See, I like people. I like people branching off into acting. I didn't make you and him. Okay. Yeah, he did his own budget, his own movie, and it's dope. When I show it to you, I'll be like, dang, this dude here in Arkansas, he in Hollywood. Man, that's crazy. And go with heart with it. Shout out to CJ, man. That's my guy right there. That's crazy you said something about acting. I was thinking about audition for Fences somewhere in... You got to go, man. You got to give it a shot. I think it's in Missouri. Auditions. You got to go. If you can do anything. Because the thing I always tell people, I said, if there's something that you want to do in life, don't hesitate and do it. Just do it. Because a lot of times we are our biggest critics. We were like, no. For real. We discourage ourselves so many times into doing things. And then later on, you're like, I wonder what would have happened if I did do X, Y, Z. Look at Jamie Foxx. Jamie Foxx from Terrell, Texas, right here up the street. He gets on the piano when he's in Terrell. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. He goes to California. The truth. The acting and everything else started to be a thing. I wanted to sing, but I ended up having to do this. And you know, just a whole bubble of... He's a jack of all trades, man. Yeah, just a whole bubble of talent, bro. Yeah, straight up. You know what I'm saying? And to be from here, from really primarily right in the area where we're from, should motivate everybody. Straight up. If he came from here and he can do it. You know, somebody else was on the way. B Simone. She's super talented. B Simone is extremely talented. She says she's like the female Jamie Foxx, and I believe her. Wow. She's funny. She can do some music. And then the improv thing is an art in itself, man. That's crazy to be able to do improv comedy at some...  Come on.   It's crazy. How could people get a hold of you, man? So I heard it's on... I know how... I know one thing God put you in my life. T-Y-E. Not T-Y. T-Y-E here is 32 on all social media platforms. Man, like I said, I hope we did you justice. You know what I mean? Here at Boss Talk, we're going to... Y'all always do. Man, we killing the game. I think we got a little something. What you think? Yeah.  I want you to teach me. Yeah. I got to go to the car to, I think, either Monday or Wednesday and go back and tell them the game, teach them the game. Oh, that's cool. Teach me the game, ghost. See, that's the way of giving back. I love that. You always have to give back. Do you think... I mean, putting God first is that important? Without a doubt. Indubitably. Straight up. That's my... Come on, man.  Talents. Come on, man. I got to. Where do you see yourself in the next two years? L.A. L.A. kicking back, relaxing on Miami, South Beach on my yacht. South Beach. With my little studio. What is it going to take for you to get that? With my little studio? I need my Grammy, man.  I need them to stop playing. I can't wait. I get to say, nigga, I interviewed him on Boss Talk, man. I knew that dude. Yeah. Give me my Grammy, man. It's about that time I'm done playing with you, niggas, man. Come on. I'm so happy, man. And what's dropping next? We got asphalt and concrete coming very, very soon at the top of 2022. So, Ty, man, help me to find me. You know what I'm saying? When you get to the next song, you know, let me stand by the piano. Come on. You know what I'm saying? Come on with it. Sure. So, how do you like you like John Legend? Because he played that thing, too. I like John Legend, man. Would you ever work with him? That ain't your steelo, though.  You different. Y'all, what was that what was that movie with? Was it a Steve Harvey movie that they kept playing that song in? I don't want to brag. I'll be. Oh, man. That was, that was, that was, that was Tyler Perry. Was it Tyler Perry? Yeah. Yeah. They played that goddamn song through that whole movie. The best you ever had. I forget which movie it was. I don't even know what movie it was, but I know that song was in it. It was that whole goddamn movie. Like, at one point, I was annoyed, but I want that kind of money. Man. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Play the song through the whole movie. That sounds good. Would you ever do work with him? Yes. Yes. Who would you like to work with? Uh... One of your biggest things, like, if I could work with this person, I'd feel like, dang, I done it. I want to work with Paul McCartney. Boy, that's dope right there, man. You know what I mean? He's still living. That'd be amazing. That would. Have you ever reached out to him? To Paul McCartney? I want to work with Andre 3000. I love Andre 3000. I don't know if that's going to happen. I love. You don't think I could work with him? Andre would be tripping, man. He ain't trying to do music right now like that. He'll do a single with you. That's cool. But he ain't feel to come on the videos. He ain't feel to do the good. He's somewhere doing something he want to do, and I can respect that. That's like my Gemini uncle, man. I do one with Andre. I love his music style. I'd love to hear it, but I'm just knowing. It might not happen, but that's sad. I'd love to hear it. But have you reached out to Paul McCartney? No. I have not reached out to Paul McCartney. You should. I mean, on the DMs, but you come on now. Yeah, straight up. So you got rejected like you did me? No. That's why CC didn't come on.  It got back on you. You see, you see, that's how lies get out.  You see, you know what I'm saying? No, he just didn't buy it. But, you know, shout out to Ro and a couple more people. Zay told me who hit me back automatically. You know what I'm saying? No, no, no. Don't play something like that. Some people don't check that. You know, on your DMs, you have that other section. The request section. The request section. People don't check that section. It's on your request section. Oh, man. What's the craziest message you've ever received? Oh, God. Request section. I plead the fifth. I don't blame you. I plead the fifth. I don't do y'all like that. They call no names now. No, I ain't going to tell no. Y'all, babe, my message is a safe place. You got to get in the actor, man. I promise, man. The expressions and stuff, just like when we did Cheetah's Myron, it's just the expression. He in a movie now with T.I. I don't even know the name of that movie. I got to hit him up and find out. But it's dope, man. You got to do it, man. I'm going to see what I can do, man. You can't do it. I think we need that in Dallas, actually. We need something. Look at country one. He killing the game right now, too. In Dallas, man, we got to be like a thousand times better at everything. At everything. You know what I'm saying? We got to really just... We just need a platform. And we don't get a platform. I believe it's coming. We have to come together to do that. Because then, a lot of people talk about Atlanta because Atlanta folks are... They're together. They have a structure. They have a structure. We're getting there.  But they just... When you got the structure and the platform makes it easier. I think you'd be alright if you don't try to be like Atlanta. If you don't try to be like Louisiana. If you don't try to... Because you got something different going on here. Louisiana got some. Florida got some. Hey, Houston got some. And Dallas got some. We need to figure out what that something is and get involved in that something in the way that we can only do it here in Dallas. Unapologetically put our own culture in everybody's face. Even the people from this motherfucker that's like... That's true.  Like, are you going to be from this motherfucker and not like the cowboys? Same, man.  My son, one of them. He's sitting right back there behind you. He is not going to do number go to Philadelphia. For some reason, every time we watch the game, he got to say something similar. Check it, man. Hey, man, we love you. Listen, listen. I'm going to be honest with you. By far you wanted the dopest interviews out and done. I can tell you that right now. I appreciate it. So, Ty Harris, we love you, bro. I love y'all. And we appreciate you for coming on Boss Talk 101, man. This has been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.