All right everyone well it's two o'clock so I think we should go ahead and dive in. But before we do I have a couple housekeeping items just quickly cover. So before we get started just a reminder that all of our sessions are being recorded and the chats are being recorded as well. So we're going to ask that everyone please abide by our Passboard Code of Conduct and I will drop the link to the code of conduct in the chat. When you're in the session you will be muted and for those who need it close captioning is available you can start it on your Zoom settings, your Zoom audio settings. If you have any questions we have an FAQ section on our site and in our SOSU platform. We also have a help desk available and we have a line available at<PHONE_NUMBER> for those who need it and with that I will hand this over to our panelists. So hello everyone my name is Brent Legs I'm the Executive Director of the African American Cultural Heritage Action Fund at the National Trust for Historic Preservation and I want to welcome you to the 13th annual meeting where the African American Preservation is meeting. It's an honor to spend the next 50 minutes with you talking about the opportunity out of a moment of crisis. This is also an opportunity for us to all celebrate the successes and the leadership of the African American Cultural Heritage Action Fund. So before I provide a brief presentation I want to welcome my colleagues Loana Holland Moore and Breonna Rhodes who will speak after me and our hope is to continue our format for anyone that's participated in a previous meeting. The idea is to create space for us to have a dialogue and exchange about issues and opportunities impacting the Black Preservation movement in the United States and we hope that we can still curate that kind of conversation and exchange with you and before I talk about the Action Fund I again just want to highlight that we started this meeting around a conference table at the St. Paul National Conference in 2007. This, that moment, created the blueprint for all of the diversity programming that we see today and we at the National Trust are exceptionally pleased that the African American Preservation work that we first started by creating the Rosenwald Schools Initiative in 2003 really has set the blueprint for our broader diversity preservation work across the country. Now you all know that the Action Fund was created in the aftermath of Charlottesville in 2017.  We created the Action Fund to demonstrate that preservation could provide leadership and that we could shift national consciousness and in essence begin the process of reconstructing our national identity. We hope that this work begins to foster truth, healing and reconciliation. The Action Fund is a movement to redefine a new American narrative and culture. In essence, we are building a true national identity that reflects our country's diversity to create a more equitable and just society. Preservation today, contemporary preservation is a tool for social justice. We wanted to build a new team of leaders, esteemed leaders that's part of our National Advisory Council. This is the 20 member board of the Action Fund which is co-chaired by Darren Walker who's the president of the Ford Foundation, an actor and director, Ms. Felicia Bouchotte. And if you look at these faces, these luminaries, Dr. Evelyn Brooks Higginbotham, the first African American to chair the history department of Harvard University, and the national president of the Association for the Study of African Life and History, the organization founded by Carter G. Woodson, or the 14th secretary of the Smithsonian Institution, Dr. Lonnie Bunch. They are advising us and supporting us in the work to preserve 150 Black history sites across the country. So the Action Fund was created as a five-year, $25 million campaign, largest campaign ever undertaken on behalf of Black American historic places by the National Trust. And I'm proud to say that in under three years, we have raised more than $24 million. And we are building and we are building a new community of partnerships and support and shifting the role of philanthropy in the United States towards preservation as racial justice. We also are leveraging our media engagement to amplify this work and the amazing, beautiful, and complex culture of Black America through these kinds of publications. Now I want to highlight our view of preservation as equity and activism. So you probably know that the signature pillar of the Action Fund is our national grant program. Over the last three grant rounds, we've received almost 2,000 proposals requesting nearly $200 million. I'm glad to say that we have supported 65 preservation projects nationally and invested almost $5 million in sites of Black resilience, activism, and achievement and so much more. These numbers affirms that African American historic places have been undervalued and underfunded and we are working to mitigate disinvestment in African American cultural assets. We also are working across our National Trust Historic Sites portfolio. I hope that you have seen the rubric on teaching slavery interpretation and descendant engagement, which we hope becomes a national model for the field and brings communities together to talk about these issues. We're also exploring across some of our historic sites. This idea of shared governance and authority, which we hope will also be a national model for the stewardship and interpretation of traditional historic sites like James Madison's Montpelier. We're working at nontraditional sites to advance this idea of equitable interpretation and to reveal the often overlooked and hidden narratives of Black identity embedded in these kinds of stories. And we're working with artists who can help reimagine the interpretation of this history. We have worked across 11 national treasure campaigns at places like Chaco Bottom in Richmond, Virginia, once the second largest slave holding center in the United States. We are proud to have partnered with the local community and grassroots advocates to develop a community driven vision for memorialization, economic development, and education. And this is the vision that the Richmond community has for reactivating this cultural landscape in the heart of Richmond, Virginia. Many of you have seen news about our partnership and project at the Nina Simone Chout at home in Triune, North Carolina. You probably are aware that four New York City visual artists as a form of arts activism and politics would create an LLC, save the house from demolition, formed a partnership with the National Trust. And we have worked with other national partners like the World Monuments Fund, Preservation North Carolina recently protected the property in perpetuity by using a preservation easement the strongest legal tool possible to protect historic places. And we are finalizing plans to develop a stewardship plan for this site. We're doing this to honor the voice of the American Civil Rights Movement and the legend known as Ms. Nina Simone. We are inspired by the awe and beauty in history of our more than 100 historically black colleges and universities. We have piloted through our Hoku program a preservation and practicum where we partnered with Morgan State University and Tuskegee University introducing students in their school of design preservation theory where they learn that at the Grand Teton National Park in Wyoming, they come back and apply those skills on a real-world project on their campus. And we believe that this is the pipeline for the next generation of black professionals in preservation. We also have just piloted a $1 million HPCU Cultural Heritage Stewardship Initiative. This is in partnership with the National Endowment for Humanities, the Kaplan Fund and other partners. And we will partner with up to eight HPCUs fund two campus-wide preservation plans and up to six individual building plans. And our goal is to equip HPC's with the knowledge to steward the most remarkable collection of historic buildings arguably anywhere in the world. I hope that you have seen our latest research report that was released on October 15th. It's called Preserving African-American Places, Growing Preservation's Potential as a Path for Equity. We study 10 mid-size and major markets with historically black African-American neighborhoods and you can see some of the statistics on the right but it has affirmed that the disinvestment, that we're fighting disinvestment, that we're still fighting issues of urban renewal, that we are fighting to retain our cultural assets and fighting against demolition and the issues that disproportionately impact black historic neighborhoods and communities. We're working to create space for new voices and for new ideas and we've established a fellowship program. These are four of the newest cohorts you hear from Breonna Rhodes in a minute. Kandace Taylor, she is the author of a Green Book. They came out last year and is working with us to identify 10 Harlem-based Green Book sites that are eligible for listing in the National Register. Yoruba Richan is producing a short doc on the story of preserving the home of John and Alice Coltrane in New York and Jenna Dublin is the co-author of the Equity Research Report that I just mentioned. And then there is another component of Hope Crew. It's our Intro to Preservation Trades. We are working with Diverse Youth, introducing them to the history that surrounds them, places like Nina Simone's house where a small team of paid craft workers would paint the exterior of Nina Simone's house. We see this as an opportunity to build a pipeline for the next generation of qualified preservation craft professionals in the field of preservation. We also are committed to building the organizational capacity of site directors across the United States. And over the last three years we've worked with 25 non-profit organizations building their capacity in preservation planning, non-profit management and fundraising, and this was the cohort that are convening in Maryland. And last, we convened our very first Cultural Preservation Leadership Summit, a two-day event in March of 2018. It was co-sponsored by the Ford Foundation Center for Social Justice. We had an elegant affair the night before at the historic Apollo Theater. Elizabeth Alexander recited poetry, went Marsalis, played for us. They had a stimulating conversation and we look forward over the next couple of years to bring all of you together in the next Cultural Preservation Leadership Summit to discuss the opportunities before us to amplify this important work. And then last, and for anyone that is unmuted, please mute your microphone. So last, I just want to say that we are committed to securing new and equitable investment with through our federal government to diversify national park service programs. You might not know that the National Park Service can't lobby and advocate for itself. The National Trust plays its leadership role and I'm glad to say that since 2015 we have secured almost a hundred million dollars in partnership with Congresswoman Terry Sewell, Congressman James Clyburn, and other congressional members to establish the underrepresented communities grant program, the civil rights and HBCU grant programs, and the civil rights and reconstruction air and networks. This is preservation activism and equity. So I'm going to leave you with this. So during the Black Lives Matter protest movement here in D.C., this summer, an unnamed protester would write these words on the side of the Decatur House and the shadows of the White House. The Decatur House is a national trust historic site operated by the White House Historical Association. It's a space where enslaved Americans were once held in bondage. And the question states, why do we have to keep telling you Black Lives Matter? This is why the action fund is so important because we continue to use this as a platform to fight for justice, to honor our ancestors, and to reimagine preservation practice in the United States. You receive just a sampling of our work. And again, I wanted to share this with you because I want you to celebrate with us for doing what has yet to be imagined, for setting that blueprint for the other diversity communities that will follow the action fund. And together we can transform the American cultural landscape, secure new investment, create new partnerships, and build a national ethic for the preservation of American history and our historic places. So with that being said, I'm going to turn it over to my colleague, LaWanna Hollenmore. Thanks, Brent. You know, one thing you have to think about when we talk about African American history is the fact that it is American history and that our sites are tangible connections to our past and to that history. And for that reason, it makes it so important to be able to save them, to be able to preserve them, to be able to take care of them, to be able to be their stewards. We at the Action Fund hope to draw attention to the remarkable and still largely unrecognized collections of places and stories of African American activism and achievement. And through the elevation of those stories, we hope to contribute to that collective narrative, which is our American history. And this year, for our national grant program, we just wrapped up year three of our grant cycle and awarded $1.6 million to 27 African American historic sites, organizations nationwide in four categories, capital projects, programming and interpretation, project planning, and organizational capacity. And we have awarded a total of $4.3 million in funding to 65 sites and organizations so that they may accomplish their goals. Over the past three years, I've had a chance to really see the breath of needs of African American preservation nationwide, and there is a need. And this year, for instance, we've received over 500 LOIs with over 470 of them being eligible. And what it is is that once we receive them, they undergo an evaluation process and are narrowed down to those 50 that we invite for a full application. And of those evaluators, we have external reviewers as well from Harvard Touch and Center for African and African American Research, Masala, Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture. And once those applications, we whittle them down even more. And that's how we determine our final awardees. And I'd like to tell everybody, and many of you that have talked to me know, I say this all the time, that it is extremely competitive, but you have a chance. And in order to do so, you have to put in. And the call for LOIs for letters of intent is almost always the very beginning of December, around December 3rd or so. So please definitely check our website around that time to find out more information about it. Also, I'm holding a grant session tomorrow at 2 p.m. about best practices in terms of applying for an Action Fund grant. And I'll be joined by three of our awardees from each of our three years that will be sharing their experiences about the process so you can find out more information then as well. And just in general, you can also contact our grants department, let them know that you have a project that you're interested in that is of an African American site or place. Feel free to email me at Elmore at Saving Places or I'll be happy to answer questions that you might have. And with that, actually I'll go ahead and thank you all for coming. And I'll turn it over to our Action Fund Fellow, journalist Breonna Rhodes, who will share more about the work that she's doing for the Action Fund to help to share the full stories of these sites. Thank you. Hi, everyone. My name is Breonna Rhodes and I'm the Action Fund Editorial Fellow. Before I begin to tell you all about the projects that I have worked on, I want to say that this has been a fulfilling and amazing experience over the past nine months. I have spoken to great people and have completed extensive research to tell the stories of these historic sites. This has been the most beneficial and influential commitment I've made towards my journalism career. And I feel confident that I am now a woman in preservation and a historian as well. So let me touch on a couple of stories that I've worked on over the past couple of months. Just to start off, the first story that I decided to focus on was the John and Alice Coltrane home. During this time, we were at the beginning of quarantine and artists were learning how to tap into their creativity at home. I think this site is a source of inspiration for creatives who are making this adjustment and also giving them an encouragement to let them know that the effort to create and limit the experiment with artistry. The accomplished jazz musicians and composers used their former 1952 Long Island, New York suburban home not only to escape from the outside world but to cultivate their most iconic masterpieces from 1964 to 1973 while being surrounded by love, support, and more. John spent five days in isolation in one of his upstairs rooms with just a pen, paper, and saxophone to create his legendary piece, A Love Supreme. And the piece continues to inspire musical artists across various genres to this day. One of the highlights of this story was actually speaking to the Coltrane kids, which is Ravi and Michelle. And it was so great to hear about the touching moments while they experienced at the home. And one thing that stood out to me that Michelle said that she said that their parents were the epitome of a black love story. So I thought that was so amazing. And the fund will actually continue to provide assistance for the home and turning it into a cultural education center. Right after working on that story, I worked on a civil rights listicle, and I focused on seven historic civil rights sites that exemplify the fight against racial justice. You all know in 2020, activists and protesters are still taking a stand in large part due to the killings of Ahmaud Arbery, Breonna Taylor, Tony McDay, and George Floyd, and many more. And for many around the world, these fatalities are emblematic of the systemic racism black people continue to face. Activism and protests are not new to the history of the fight against racism. And I wanted to highlight that and talk about the leaders from the civil rights movement who paved the way for those who are amplifying their voices today, and also highlight significant sites across the country, such as A.G. Gaston Motel, the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, and the other historic sites that I mentioned in the story that continues to tell the narrative of why all Americans should continue to fight for equal treatment. These places not only represent the history of that struggle, but also establish a framework for the contemporary protest movement. In specific, I want to highlight the Nina Simone childhood home that Brent mentioned earlier during our talk. I am a native North Carolinian, and this home is very dear and true to my heart because Nina Simone is a native North Carolinian as well. Simone used her voice during the civil rights movement to address oppression and racial inequality. Mississippi goddamn was written after the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in 1964 in Birmingham, Alabama. And while I was interviewing Brent for the story, he's made a quote that really touched my heart and stood out to me. And he mentioned that it takes on one with influence to speak on behalf of removing and speaking in reference to Simone, and she did that and she risked her career.  There are reincarnations of Nina Simone. The stories of the seven places that I highlighted still remain powerful today. And just like Brent, I truly believe that these sites remind us that we are the light barriers and the social innovators who have taken on the burdensome but beautiful road to shield national consciousness. The next story that I worked on was August Wilson Childhood Home.  And that is definitely what August Wilson did. And one thing that I've highlighted as well in this story is about the celebrities and entertainers like Denzel Washington, who have donated money to help restore the house. He's also collaborating with the Wilson family estate to make a series of motion pictures based on Wilson's body of work. And the trailer of Wilson's award-winning play, My Rainy's Black Bottom, was just recently released starring by Ola Davis and the late Chadwick Boseman, which will be out at the end of the year. This is the last film Boseman was featured in. And I want to say may he rest in peace. After this story, I worked on a CTV and John Lewis story guide. You know, you all know on July 17, the United States lost two notable trailblazers of the Civil Rights Movement. And I wanted to highlight how both men dedicated their lives to the fight for racial and social equality for Black Americans. The guide offers a look at the sites and locations that honor both Lewis and Vivian and their impact on civil rights. So I highlighted First Baptist Church in Montgomery, Alabama. And that was the location when Lewis first met Martin Luther King, Jr. And I also highlighted Nashville, Tennessee. In Nashville, Tennessee, that was the location where Lewis and Vivian both spearheaded their fight for civil rights. And another location was the Freedom Rides Museum in Montgomery, Alabama. And the museum recognizes the fearless endeavors of the protesters who participated in the 1961 push to desegregate public transportation and seating. Another location was Parchman Farm in Mississippi. Both Lewis and CTV and were arrested and jailed at Parchman for disorderly conduct and disturbing the peace. One of the most recent projects that I've worked on are the significance of a historic Black neighborhood across the country. When I tell you all, I truly enjoyed this project. I took a lot of time to really create a list of cool that highlighted these neighborhoods because in the 20th century, the first half to be particular, Black Americans identity and their influence on the United States was very impactful. In reaction to racist actions and laws during that period, Black neighborhoods provided a sense of belonging, serving as a space not only to garner wealth, but also to celebrate Black culture in a unique and authentic way. And during this time, Black culture identity began to emerge. But you know, Black Americans were still dealing with Jim Crow, segregation, desegregation, and other factors. Many of these communities then last because of factors such as gentrification and outright racism. However, I wanted everyone to know about how these communities have full rich history. And the particular sites that I highlighted were the Greenwood, Black Wall Street District in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the Haiti District in Durham, North Carolina, Harlem in New York, U Street right down the street in Washington DC, Jackson Ward in Richmond, Virginia, and a few others. It's what I want to say is that it's great to see the support for Black businesses now. It's on the rise now, and that's why I came up with the idea to acknowledge these areas who laid the foundation or the blueprint for successful Black businesses today. My most recent piece that was published, I think, I believe last week was a story gone on Black politicians who have paid the way for the current politicians that we recognize now. As we prepare for the upcoming election, which has the chance of being a historic election, this year, United States Senator Kamala Harris became the first Black and South Asian American to run for Vice President. And I want to say, overall, it's safe to say that I've had an incredible journey during this fellowship process. And I'm excited about the two upcoming seasons that I will end the fellowship out with. This fellowship experience has made me proud to be a Black woman, journalist, activist, historian, and all of the above. And I'm forever grateful for the trust and the action for the team. And I hope that I can continue to tell amazing stories as well. Thank you all, and I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you, Brianna. That was fantastic. And thank you, Luana. So at this point, we want to facilitate a conversation with you. And again, I hope that these three speakers, that we were able to demonstrate the power of having African-American professionals, whether in a traditional space like a preservation practitioner or a journalist like Brianna, that we all can contribute to the work of telling the full American story. So thinking about this year, pivotal year, we have racial unrest and racial injustice that has been most visible. And I know that all of us, Black, white, and beyond, that we have been deeply impacted by the horrific killings and murder in American streets. We also are facing a health pandemic, COVID, and I know that that has impacted a lot of your preservation projects. I'm sure many of your organizations are struggling to sustain operations, retain staff, if you have paid staff. So I want to ask you a question and feel free to either raise your hand or show us in some way so that you can unmute and share how have you responded? What has been your opportunity in these moments of crisis? Have you found new ways to be more creative to leverage digital technology and programming to expand your audience and to increase your fundraising? Have you been more creative in the way that you think about preservation and the memorialize and memorializing ephemeral history related to the Black Lives Matter protest movement and beyond? I want to hear from you about your preservation opportunities or even some of the challenges that you're facing in this moment. Who wants to share? This will be a test case for bravery. Hi, Brent. It's Janie. Hey, Janie. How are you? I'm well. Hi, everybody. Well, I certainly want to share this because even though COVID has been just traumatic for all of us, it has also provided new experiences and new opportunities and new ways for us to preserve the great history of African-Americans and to preserve our stories. So in South Carolina, we launched Black Carolinian Speak, Portraits of a Pandemic, because we found that in South Carolina, there was very little in the archives about the influenza of the pandemic of 1918. We didn't want that to happen again. It was not going to be happening on our watch. So we have this project and you can appreciate this. When it was brought to the Executive Committee, I said we have no money, guys, but I'll find a few dollars. So we found $500 to launch a website. We are collecting stories. We have now collected over 65 moral histories from across the state. Our goal is to collect over 100. We've collected artwork. We've collected diaries. We've collected stories from people and we are archiving them at the South Carolina Department of Archives and History. So I found $500 to do a webpage. Someone heard us, heard me talking about it. We have attracted more than $50,000 in the last four months to support this project. Brett, you know me. You know how I go after the money. Yes, you do. And some of my colleagues, members of our foundation, our chair and our vice chair, are on this webinar. So I want to publicly thank the National Trust. We are so indebted to you. That training that we came to just sparked us so much. And so I'm sure that Dr. Watson, who's on with us and who's our chair, and Dawn Dawson-House, who's our vice chair, will share my sentiments and our thanks to the National Trust. We have great things going on in South Carolina. Folks, check us out at wegoja.com. W-E-G-O.org. Thank you, Brett. Thank you. And you all can hear that Janie is a legend in preservation. And she participated the South Carolina African American Heritage Commission Foundation. They participated in our six-month preservation leadership training. And their goal was to raise $50,000 over that six months. They accomplished that. And you probably have seen in the chat that they've raised an additional $300,000 rebranded the organization. They're killing it. They are a shining example of the power statewide preservation organizations to take a leadership role in preserving and telling this important history. So thank you, Janie. You are quite welcome, Brett. And thank you. My heart goes out to you. Thank you. Who else has an example of innovation during a moment of crisis? I'd like to go. Please, go ahead. So my name is Arianna McCow. I'm the president and principal conservator of Zilani Glass Conservation. And I come to this as someone who is hands-on, preserving different pieces. We primarily work on historic buildings, often churches. And in this moment, in general, I don't like to put myself in the in the floor. I like our work to speak for ourselves, but I felt like this was a moment for me to speak up to our community, especially the stained glass community where people often perceive it to be very Eurocentric. And so both in the people that I hire to work for my company, and also reaching out to the people and the communities that we serve, I've brought myself more to the fore to say, look at the people who you are choosing to conserve your pieces. And we like to broaden the scope of the people who are training. So we've been working along with nonprofits because I strongly believe in having interns that are paid to come work for us. And finding organizations that already exist that reach out to the community were based in West Oakland. So finding those young people who may not know about this as a career path and working on that. And I'm also on the board of the Stained Glass Association of America. And I encouraged the board to put out an actual statement about equity and who they reach out to. And through discussions with them, they said at the beginning, well, you know, we're equitable, why do we need to state this? And after going through conversation, they were enlightened to, you know, you need to speak what you do because sometimes people don't know that's what you do. So coming from a different perspective, but boots on the ground and would love to support and find more projects that we can work on. So my team isn't just working on a narrow group of things, because I know there are lots of projects that we can conserve. We just don't know about them. Thank you for your leadership. Thank you for moving that organization towards a space of equity and putting that that ethic on paper and in writing. And thank you for the paid internships. Yeah, well, I hope that you get to meet our colleague, Milan Jordan, who is the new director of Hope Crew. And there's a lot of mission alignment and what you just described. You too should certainly talk. And then we gave our largest grant this year of $150,000 to historic Vernon AME church in Tulsa, one of the last standing remnants of the racial massacre from 1921. And that $150,000 is funding the partial restoration of their stained glass windows. Yeah, so maybe you could be connected to that project in some way. Would love to. Thank you so much for the time and for people listening. Hi, Brian. This is EJ Scott. We met in Virginia at the preservation Virginia farm. You were our keynote speaker that day. And hi, Luana. Nice to meet you. I just want to say that the graffiti that you showed in your presentation where the gentleman was asking how many times do we have to tell you that black lives matter is has is sort of my perspective on things because I believe that the reason that we're in this situation, I guess, is people having difficult to understand our value is because of the lies and the propaganda that has been perpetrated against us over the years. I have as I took the believe I told you before, I work on telling the stories of ordinary people when they came come out of enslavement to know what they did in or once they first emerged from enslavement and how those families have progressed over time. There was, as you know, we were generally relegated to certain neighborhoods of certain streets. And where I live in Virginia, there was a street called Liberty Street. There were two houses built on that street in 1870. And they wanted to tear them down because they'd gotten into certain disarray. I worked, I consider myself an activist community organizer. So I got the community to show up at some city council meetings and demand that that not happen. What I found out and doing some research is that when the city of Manassas had applied for the historic designation for the city itself, they use those houses built in 1870 on their application. But once they received the designation, they drew Liberty Street out of the historic district. So we demanded that they put Liberty Street back in the historic district. And we also have a marker telling the story of how this gentleman escaped from slavery, went to New York, was paid $1,000 for his service, came back here and purchased 14 acres and started and built these homes that still exist today. Those homes, one of them sold for $104,000. And now, then recently, it sold after refurbishment, sold for $477,500. We had another one that sold for $415,000. It is currently on the market for $525,000. I think these are important things that we need to work at because this will help us generate generational wealth. And that's what we need in our communities. So I wanted to tell that story because I'm just so excited about it. And one other thing, just this past weekend, we dedicated a monument to Jenny Dean, who was built the first school here is the Manassas Industrial School for Colored Youth. This was a school that allowed people to go beyond education from like the third or fifth grade, the first one, teaching them trades. Well, that is fantastic. And I just want to say that your story is a common story where we have to fight this kind of cultural inequity and advocate on behalf of our history to be recognized within the traditional systems of preservation and you exemplify the power of grassroots preservationists. Like we can fight against this when we are committed to securing equity for our history and for our neighborhoods. So thank you for that. So in our last few minutes, I just want to open up the floor to anyone if you have a comment or something that you want to share. 10, 15 seconds, any thoughts about the future of the Black Preservation Movement and work. And I also want to just acknowledge our allies that are here with us, that work with us on the ground, you know, this multiracial, multigenerational coalition of advocates, it will take all of us to elevate the significance of Black culture in American history. And I thank you for being part of this movement. So in the last few minutes, anybody want to share an opportunity? Hi, this is Tiffany Perry, and I am the Chief of Staff at Russ College. Russ is the oldest HBCU in the state of Mississippi. I am very new to this role. And so I have only been Chief of Staff now for about six weeks. And this preservation work is extremely new for me. I have a marketing and communications and operational efficiency background, but as Chief of Staff, I'm now juggling a lot of different priorities. One of those being the restoration of the Mississippi Industrial College, which is another HBCU that closed in the 1980s that we have acquired as a part of Russ College as a part of our role. So we have a new president as well. She's the former Mayor of San Antonio, Texas, Dr. Ivy Taylor. And so just being on this call is so inspirational. You all have shared a lot of great information. But I'm really looking forward to learning a lot throughout this conference about preservation, especially on HBCU campuses and kind of the work that can be done there. So thank you to everyone who really shared, because as a newbie to this work, these types of conferences and conversations are very critical for us on HBCU campuses. Excellent. And thank you for sharing. Thank you for joining Russ College and providing your expertise. And I'm so pleased to hear that Russ College has a commitment to preserving and stewarding its campus, returning it back to its fullest glory. I'm sure you've been in touch with my colleague, Tiffany Tobert. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So Tiffany is a project manager for the HBCU Cultural Heritage Stewardship Initiative. And it sounds like you all will submit a letter of inquiry. I'm hopeful. And that would be correct. Fantastic. Well, thank you. Thank you. If there's one more, I'd like to ask a question, Brent, if that's okay. Yeah, go ahead. Hi. I'm Michelle Robinson. I'm a professor at Spellman College, so in the HBCU conversation. I also serve as a community partner for the Historic Black Townsend Settlements Alliance. And we just recently came in contact with a community that's struggling with preservation of a piece of property that has been, for lack of a better word, swallowed up by a local institution. And I wondered if the National Trust offers any kind of legal sort of guidance for people who are in those kinds of battles. This is something I haven't been faced with before. We've been working in communities for about five or six years just supporting the work they're doing in preservation, but never in the sense that things are being sort of acquired and stories being lost as a result of that acquisition. And I just wondered if there's any kind of initiative like that going on? Well, through the Action Fund and just at the National Trust, we provide technical assistance in many different areas, whether it's legal advocacy, it's preservation, and beyond. So yes, you should reach out, connect with my colleague, Luana Holland Moore. And we'll be able to connect you to the right person internally at the National Trust so that we can learn more about what the real threats are and offer some guidance and for some solution. Okay, thank you. Yeah. Everyone, I just want to say thank you. I trust that you will have a fabulous conference. And again, it's just, it's beautiful to spend time and space with you as we uplift and celebrate the power of African-American historic places in history. Enjoy your conference. Bye, everybody.


No, that's not a serial killer's mugshot. That's my university ID picture from four years ago. A year later, I would leave university and begin to follow God's calling on my life and pursue Christian content creation. As I started putting out pieces of content online, God began to lay something on my heart. For years, I'd seen the disconnection that can happen between fathers and sons. A relational gap can form in the teen years and often is never repaired. Fathers desire to reach out and bridge the gap, but they just don't know what their sons need or want from them. I was having a passionate conversation about this with my dad and the next step kind of became really clear. Write a book. But hold up for a second, why would God want a dyslexic kid who couldn't read till he was 11 to write this book about building father-son relationships? It's the reason that God asks any of us broken people to carry out his mission because in the midst of our weakness, he is strong. So at 19 years old, I decided to start writing. This was around the time that my mom was going through cancer treatments. So I would help take care of my siblings part of the day and would write the other part of the day. I'm on my way to McDonald's to get some writing done. I usually do most of the writing, my writing at home. I get a little antsy at home sometimes when I've been writing a long time, not as productive as I could be. So I'm gonna head to McDonald's. I just finished the manuscript, but my fear was getting ahold of me. I hid the manuscript deep in the drawer in my desk just to collect dust. I left it there for weeks. But one day, God just made it clear to me that I was being ruled by my fear. And at that moment, it all became clear. It wasn't about writing a best-selling book. It was about taking a step of faith to trust God that he would use this in the lives of fathers and sons. Two years later, and here it is, a letter to my father what your son wants to tell you but doesn't. This book verbalizes the doubts, struggles, and questions that young men have and engage with fathers to make a meaningful impact in their son's lives. I tell stories about my relationship with my dad and engage with spiritual truths throughout the book. While this book is directed at fathers and sons, I've also had mothers and daughters say that they've been greatly impacted by the book as well. Growing in these relationships isn't easy, but it's so worth it. To pick up a book today for yourself or for your dad or for your friend, head on over to dailydisciple.ca slash book or the link in my bio. Thank you so much guys and I hope you're blessed by this book.


In his childhood, Chris Gardner lacked everything he needed to survive. He hardly knew his father, Thomas Turner, who was leaving in Louisiana during his birth. His stepfather, Freddie Triplett, was physically abusive to both him and his mother, Betty Gin Gardner. The little Chris was later separated from his mother by his violent and abusive stepfather and was brought up in several foster care homes. Known to him, his mother was convicted of trying to kill Triplett and was sentenced to jail. Despite his mother's periods of absence, she was a positive source of strength and inspiration to her son. She encouraged Chris to believe in himself and sow the seeds of self-reliance in him. Chris coached his mother as saying, You can only depend on yourself. The cavalry isn't coming. Chris had also determined from an early age that alcoholism, domestic abuse, child abuse, illiteracy, fear and powerlessness were all things he wanted to avoid in the future. He soon decided to join the Navy and served in the U.S. Corps for four years. After his retirement, he took up the job of a lab research assistant with surgeon Robert Ellis. There, he developed an interest in building a medical career. Chris later abandoned his job at the lab as the job was low-paying and he had a family, his wife Jackie and their son Christopher Jr. to cater to. He also ditched his dreams of becoming a medical doctor. For some time, this young man sold medical equipment to Mick Endsmeet even though he was never really satisfied with what he was doing. As his passion for doing something more rewarding grew, Chris decided to become a stockbroker. After a few failed attempts at getting a placement at several training programs offered by different firms, he was eventually accepted as a trainee at the Dean White Reynolds with no paying sight until he was able to get a confirmed job. During this period, Chris, now separated from Jackie and in full custody of his son, had to secretly struggle with homelessness with his son while they survived on the money from his medical equipment sales. Despite his difficulties, Chris exhibited a sort of dedication that eventually paid off and soon he was able to establish his stockbroking firm, Gardner Rich and Co. Though he started the firm small, the firm ended up shooting Chris to fame. He later sold his small stake in Gardner Rich and Co. in a multimillion-dollar deal in 2006 and became CEO and founder of the multimillion company Christopher Gardner International Holdings. The estimated net worth of this famous stockbroker soon rose to about $60 million. You see, if you're going through difficult situations as you watch this video, it's easy for you to conclude that life isn't fair to you. I get it, I've been in your shoes before and I can tell you how it pains. I suffered rematches in for 17 years and I prayed every day of my life for death. But today, when I look back, I can see why God permitted such pains. Alicia Dixon said once you've been through tough times, you can only become stronger. The one thing about being stronger is that when you become stronger, you become better, smarter and richer. Don't allow what you're going through now to destroy your greater future. Chris Gardner determined from an early age that he was going to avoid alcoholism, domestic abuse, child abuse, illiteracy, fear and powerlessness. As you go through difficult times, avoid fear. As you are going through a difficult time, avoid excuse-making. As you are going through a difficult time, avoid alcoholism, drugs and every other vice that may destroy your dream. Believe in yourself. Wake up every day to fight for it and you shall win. Robert Schuller said tough times never last but tough people do. Dirk Nowitzki said and I quote, I understand you've got to go through tough times to get better. If you liked this video, watch more videos on our channel. We love you.


Well I'm a software engineer. I've been in the tech space for 20 years now so I started off in C++ and then I did a lot of Java and I've been doing Scala since 2013. Scala is appealing because it's a very concise language so first of all when you're coming from Java it's roughly half the amount of typing that you have to do so it's very very expressive. It's a language that supports functional programming. It favors immutability in its constructs so it's sort of naturally more thread safe and concurrent friendly. Currently I'm the Team Growth and Deek team manager so Team Growth and Deek is put together to create a third Ethereum classic client written entirely in Scala from ground up so I'm responsible for the technical health of the code base and for coming up with the delivery milestones. There are four milestones currently on the roadmap. The four phases really involve block synchronization, transaction execution which is the EVM and then the command and query phase which involves the JSON or PC interface and then finally the mining aspect of the Ethereum client. Functional programming is side effect free so there are parameters to functions and there are results of those functions and no matter at what time of the day or night in the future of the past that you call those functions there are no other side effects. That is functional programming in a nutshell.


Well, we had a four hour session on the key trends for the future and what government officials and regulators and industry people have to know about what's coming by 2020. We went through all of the things like big data, artificial intelligence, robotics, data security and all the trends and of course we saw some demos and it was very exciting for me myself. After four hours I feel like I've seen the future and my brain hurts. And now we have to talk about how we get there and what we do. And we had some great debates and lots of interest and I feel quite positive. I think in the end the one element that stood out is still that many developing countries we still need to first connect people so that they can actually participate in this world and that is still crucial. But nevertheless my point is that we can't wait to address those issues once they are connected. We can't wait until that we have to do it beforehand. And I think the second one was that everybody feels like technology is becoming so exponentially powerful that we now need to think about what it does and why it does it and what part of it we want. Well I mean it's quite obvious that we're looking at machine learning and what machines can understand that is a key trend. We're looking at everything becoming mobile and visual, you know video, text, mobile devices. The connectivity like water basically in 2020 70% of the global population connected. So the internet becomes like air and we're looking at key trends like the fact that developing countries are booming and they begin up the middle class that's really going to change things on a global level. Collaboration is increasing, interdependence of business models. So it's not just technology but also the social changes resulting from technology. Well I think it's very important for people to get together and look outside of their own comfort zone and this is kind of what could do it or has done it I hope. And it's very important to also say okay we need to go beyond the business as usual you know the discussion about all the things that we've done in the past already and you know there has to be a space where you can experiment and go outside of your comfort zone and look at something that's not immediately you know everyday business and this is really what this event can do I think.


Why are you already laughing?   So Usually a weekly podcast Not so much recently. It's more of a whenever there's updates podcast And we do have a few updates this week. We got some stuff for over prime We're gonna talk about their delayed early Access announcement the website's kind of down and they a new face skin concept That's pretty cool Fault had a small patch and then they announced crunch and then predecessor just a howitzer and a calari vid So we're gonna get into that. I'm your host the man who's joining me as always is my friend and co-host with his little co-host jelly knees and smudge What's up man goose dude? I'm happy to be back with FTM I always people all the time because we do ETE always confused ETE and FTM Mm-hmm, right and I was always like no, it's this right and then the second we started up FTM They're always crossed in my head now. It's like this is it's we're in ETM FTE, I don't know one of those two shows but with us this week.  It's whatever you want it to be Let's not go ahead and tell us how you got started in the pair into a paragon and your history with it and all that shit your favorite hero I got started with everybody's favorite the dirty five stacking It was it was a game. I was always playing with the family of friends And it was one of those games where if none of us were able to join we didn't play like if one person missed out on that day We didn't we didn't jump in but What got me into paragon was the trailer that my cousin set me in the beginning That's what got my attention their trailer was amazing So to clear this up your favorite hero is a dirty five stack There you go No, I thought mangers. I thought he said 35 stack for a second Is there some meta that I don't remember the whole family plays like you're in charge of the queue you're in charge of WASD you're in charge of the old You get to move the mouse Sounds like a great video It's like reminds me jelly on that time you played fault with our voice commands exactly Geez awkward with voice commands. Yeah. Yeah, it was insane. He played chimeric like Q. Oh Man um Well before we get to the updates this week I got something a little serious to talk about epion a member of the community He streams fault for the most part, but he does play all the other games He is part of our community got to a major car accident. He's a firefighter It was a head-on collision somebody fell asleep at the will and drifted into his lane. So he has multiple fractures He's in a bad way. He's he's he's stable right now. He's gonna live but he's Really bad off right now and there is a go fund me for his family to help him through his recovery effort So if anybody if you are in a financial position where you can give and you would like to give I will have that linked in the description below as well as we pinned Comment below for the go fund me if you do want to give some money to help epi out, but um With that with that out of the way, let's get into these updates starting with overprime Now I did a video specifically about this last week, but we still haven't discussed it on the podcast, which is the announcement coming out of overprime talking about how they're going to delay their early access release and um Do why they were doing that and everything so uh jelly, what did you think of the announcement coming out overprime? I honestly was pretty sad to hear that this was what was happening, but at the same time I respect them for it, right because I and I think a lot of us felt this way Had way more fun playing overprime during their last open weekend than I expected Right and we've talked about it mangoes at length prior to that test of it feels it looks like it's way too fast It looks like all these things, but you didn't feel that playing the game at all In the majority of cases so I'm of course sad to see it be delayed because I want to get back into overprime as soon as I can but it makes sense and I think it shows a level of professionalism on their part that A lot of these other companies can emulate and and keep in the back of their head going forward They've been by far the most polished product that we've had out of all of these games so far And the fact that even they're unhappy with it and pushing it back I think is lays a good foundation for these other companies to do the same thing I don't know if I agree that they have the most polished product, but they're definitely the most professional company out of All of them. I think they handle things very professionally in this particular announcement was handled extremely well So what did you think of the announcement? I was actually surprised surprised in a sense that they had the ability to pop out so much content in the last few months, you know what I mean and if A company like overprime is actually stepping back and saying hey We have some some more work to do on this game before we release it It just brings up the question how out of the other games. How many of them have Just as much work if not more if somebody has polished and as professional as overprime in the backing that they have Actually stepped back because to me it was always that feeling that after that open weekend We might see an early access or some kind of alpha or beta that we'd be able to get into and and the message itself was shocking What they did was perfect. We've always talked about this about giving us updates if you're going to extend the time Let the community know so they're not on on the wire just just waiting for it, but But it was shocking for sure. It was it was a surprise to me and I think Coming out of that last open weekend at least for me The biggest things that I wanted to change before I played the game next Was basically all balance fixes Right that it was it was Respawn timers for certain things it was mana consumption for certain things The itemization being a little bit better, but those are relatively Easy things to to change. It's not reworking an entire system reworking an entire mechanic It's not any of those things. So I'm I agree with you son that I was surprised to hear They're taking a step back from it instead of just making some of those balance changes even as a first pass And putting the game out there. Yeah What about you man goose? What were your thoughts? Well, I think they I think they developed the game to their taste and what they wanted within within the The developers and their internal testers and then they got the feedback from the community Realized that the community wants something a bit different than what they had in mind But they're willing willing to bend on their on what they're what they want to do Which is really cool to see I've seen that before from them. They were talking about travel mode because a lot of A lot of the western audience hates travel mode. So they're willing to look into that and maybe Remove the travel mode if it is a problem, but At end of the day, they'll make their decision and go with it and um Like we've already seen the western market is very small for them compared to the eastern market So I don't think they really need to cater to north america and EU To be successful, but Like I said in the video too, I had no idea they had planned their early release for this winter like I'd never seen any announcement or anything on their timelines that said early access this winter Just just that it would be this year. So I was like, okay It's not going to be it's still going to be this year. So it's not really a delay as far as i'm concerned, but Whatever And I mean they said that they're going to have another test very soon. What that means is up in the air, of course Um, but I would assume depending on how that test goes They're going to have a lot of these major changes that they want to that they delayed because of in this next test And we could see something pretty quickly from them than they're after maybe even a summer release And uh, it's supposed to be a much longer test this time too. Thank god With a day and a half and then suddenly servers were out and you're like, wait a second Wait wanted to play more With overprime statement too, um Like when it comes down to traveling mode It shows how difficult it is for this community to get satisfied I mean, you have a game that gave you travel mode and no boot items And then you have a game that has boot items that people don't want You know what I mean It just shows how difficult it is For developers in general in the mobile to to satisfy their community It just I don't know if it's it's the west side of the world or it's just north america, but It's it's hard because you get both sides one person doesn't want travel modes and one person doesn't want boot items How do you how do you fix that situation? Yeah, and then at the end of the day the Developers just need to make a decision and go with it and make it work Yeah, you can't please everybody. So you got to please yourself I think an extension of their willingness to change things That i'm curious about that I don't have a comment necessarily one way or the other on is their loot boxes and What a what their monetization is going to be because that will determine How responsive or how much people dislike the loot boxes if it's a dollar a loot box Maybe will be more lenient if it's ten dollars a loot box Maybe less so right and so it's Finding a balance there, but the western audience hates loot boxes, right? There's going to be no question that the western audience is going to be upset about that when it comes out So i'm very curious to see how they respond to that Or if they just say our western audience isn't the audience that we have core Sorry, like it's just one of those things. Yeah As long as it's just cosmetics and loot boxes. I really don't care that much I would hate to see anything locked behind loot boxes at all To where you you can only acquire via loot box. That would be terrible, but Yeah, I don't I don't see items in loot boxes. That's for damn sure Yeah, if you give me a way to earn the loot boxes for free. I'm even further lenient Right, then then it really is a choice of Me spending money or I just play the game a little bit longer and get the thing anyway Yeah, right it sucks that it's random, but at least I have the option to get it for free So with my understanding the gold that they gave us during the open weekend where we were able to open loot boxes Isn't that the gold you get out of game or is that the purchase like out of pocket money? Oh, I have no idea. I don't think that if you can collect gold like that. Yeah If you can collect gold like that, I agree with you jelly that hey if it's cosmetics And it's behind the loot box makes it more interesting. It's like a gamble Hmm. I think there's a better I so fault took all of the Epic made skins and made those purchable purchasable with in-game currency Which is great. I think that's a great idea for them to get people to get skins However, the grind to get to some of those higher skins is kind of insane at the same time. Yeah Right the fact that I mean I've got almost two. I've got over 200 hours in the game I think I've only afforded one of the highest tier of those free free skins Right feels kind of bad and it wouldn't feel as bad if it wasn't a skin that you had already owned in paragon You know what?   Yeah? Yep.  Okay strange matter man. Just is saying make me a partner. There you go. Just just do it And stun he wants to be a partner just because he gets to play the new hero 30 minutes before we Look after got that sweet-ass decker skin for free. That's why Um, there it is So the and then the website too it went to like really bare bones there for a while where it was just A picture of Revenant and like their logo and there was nothing you could really click on except for their social links And uh right now it just says under maintenance. So there is no over prime website right now. Um That could be a good or a bad thing. I know their old website they It it wasn't it didn't match what was in the game like they had The fey as a play as one of their heroes But they didn't have certain other ones and yeah So I can kind of see why they took their website down. They probably wanted to make it match Match up to what the current game is like And something interesting little thing that i'm not sure actually means anything necessarily But i'm the king of finding things that don't mean anything. Um, is their url used to be over prime.co.kr Taking you to the korean address. And now it's over prime dot net marble dot com So it's there's been a transition there of some kind that maybe for the western audience They are changing the look and feel of the website and they'll have two different versions. Okay i'm not too i'm not too worried about the website being down but It was nice to be able to hop on there and look at stuff It could be a good sign too if the website is something they're working on Maybe that open weekend they're talking about or free weekend, whatever the beta weekend is around the corner I mean, I wouldn't prioritize a website build over other stuff on end the game But if they're updating it or giving us something they might be Putting more links up for sign ups and stuff like that. So i'm interested. Yeah I wait, I mean the website right now says it'll be up by the time this video goes up Or that the maintenance will be over by the time this video goes up So by the time this goes up, it may be a whole different story the website's not down It's got all the things it's got all the information Right, so we'll have to wait and see and then um They're working progress tab and they're discord, which is like my favorite tab in any discord ever They had a a concept for i'm i think it's a skin for the fey I can't think of anybody else who it would be a skin for but it's called cute b and it's like a So good so good. Yeah, it's so good Okay We'll have a picture of it up there right now Stuff did you see that? I did I did and I think what threw me off was seeing Uh a clean without makeup face on fey like that face was threw me off If I hadn't seen those wings or I just pulled up the picture It's like dude, uh, what is this? Is this a new hero? Because we're not used to we're used to seeing that glittery blue like The glowing eyes eye shadow and stuff So That clean face and the skin very creative very creative One of the few name changes. I don't really mind they went from the fey to tiana, which for Some reason makes sense to me I think it's because it's close to the soul caliber fighter that always that the fey always reminded me of The one that had the big hoop Yeah, do you know i'm talking about fey always reminded me of her. I think her name is similar to tiana Fey remind you of her. I think it's just like the the weird wraps around the legs and and like the tattoos and stuff I don't know All right, man. You sure sure. Whatever you say the fey has always reminded me of her always has I think the crazy thing the the props I have to give to overprime Is that for characters? I don't even play and have never really played I look at some of their skins and be like I'd buy that. Yeah The this face skin is one of those skins that I saw along that hero now My heck I was like, this is great. Well, I would buy that 100 if if I played fey one time and had a good game I'd be like, you know what? I'm buying a fey skin right and then go right for that one because That's just I think that skin is that incredible and a lot of their skins fall onto that for me as well. Yeah The prime the prime was that skin was out of this world The giant scarab beast bud called it bionic mushroom monster or something like that Um I think that's that's all the updates we had for overprime. Did you guys anything else you wanted to say about overprime before we move on to fault? Nope All right, so moving on to fault. They had a very small um patch just patched a few items um a couple balances a couple um Sound effects and stuff like that. I think the main news about this patch was how small it was and what that means for Fault as a game because I think it's a good thing that they didn't have to have A massive amount of changes In this patch like they didn't have to fix this on the map or that on the map or they didn't have this going insanely wrong Theoretically it means they're approaching that further state of balance where then Balancing new items and new characters become the primary focus going forward and not tweaking maps or tweaking everything here in And making the game feel new and fresh and focusing on that Is a bigger priority for them, which I think is great Any opinions on the new patch stunt you play fault probably more than uh Any of us I'm enjoying it. I actually am uh, I still kind of get frame drops if Google chrome is open in the background or if like I try to capture a video For like youtube or something like that. I still get frame drops and it's Pretty bad. It'll go from 120 frames down to two in a matter of a second But in general the entire game itself Uh, it's pretty well balanced. They're they're getting there. They're actually uh, I think they're catching some of the issues before Players are catching them. So um, um, I like that I like that they're they're able to look know what they're looking for looking for If they're doing an update know what might have an issue and they fix it right away I like how they enjoy invalidating my videos a week after I release them. That's always fun because I did that video about Grimm they immediately fixed that next patch This time I took a clip from easy ads twitter and our, um, twitch And posted it with counters flapping her arms as she flew down That got fixed that got fixed in this last patch Welcome to the club man goose. That was me with a theory a year ago Release video literally six hours later. They're like, oh, well, that's not a thing anymore. Great. Thanks guys much appreciated.  No, I could the worst hero in the game. I could do without him It's just crunch.   Yep So stunt what do you think about the addition of crunch? I think every time I see your name in the solo lane using crunch. I'll just alt f4 Oh, I'll be in the jungle too, baby I I think deep down I said I was waiting for crunch deep down I said aside from my like mains like rampage and stuff I To me it was very interesting what they were going to do with crunch I think crunch has the most Combos in in the game, right like in any combo like I wonder if they're gonna bring that into this game Or they're just gonna have their own own kit running the way they want it. So I was excited. I really I really really hope they go with the combo route because That was part of what made crunch so fun in paragon. Oh god. Yeah was pulling off those combos It's like talos and ethereal is the same way pulling off those combos and weaving your abilities and doing it just right and getting the right thing Just feels so good But I feel like four people that played crunch originally If fault changed it to just have a normal ability set I feel like that would just feel off like I I wouldn't be able to play crunch anymore the same way because it wouldn't be crunched to me I would be irate if you didn't have combo. I'm sure I'm sure you would It's a rarity where we have an fcm where mangoes doesn't bring up crunch the fey or rikters. Oh, I would be so angry Um, I'm just gonna be a very dangerous hero, especially with faults like Q ability where you can cue the next uh next attack When you're sweating you're spamming the buttons It's he's gonna be a very dangerous hero to play against as long as I can auto cancel I'm sure I'm sure they they poorly put that in So here we go. We'll do this. I think we should do this for all the games going forward, but On release crunch is he gonna be broken balanced or terrible broken? Broken for sure. Yeah, I completely agree There's no way she's not broken going into this weekend Especially if they don't give it a a limit to his his abilities or his combinations. Yeah So It's gonna be crazy As happy as I am to see crunch coming into the game. I love crunch Love seeing him getting added in to the roster. I think it's a little weird that we just got feng mal. Now we're getting crunch Like feng mal is an off lane jungler and then we're getting another off lane jungler to follow him up I think that's a little weird And so I don't know if that was necessarily Go ahead No, you go ahead. All of all of the releases have felt that way of like what's what kind of order are we actually getting these in? Right, because we any initial release was grimdecker Then you had so great both of them in the dual lane perfectly fine then after that was Grux moragesh, right like calari was in there somewhere too and then I think it was calari and then they did the final two Morcish and Richter came together. I think because it was the christmas time Oh, you're right. Okay And then it must have been Grux calari and then something else, right? So we've had a lot of emphasis on Supports and a lot of emphasis on off lane junglers and yeah Mid lane has been kind of lacking and even carries have been kind of lacking and so it's this weird Thing that you kind of end up seeing and we've seen off lane Dominate because of the amount of picks that they have That they can kind of transition between and them being broken on release as well in the majority of cases So it's this interest. I'm curious what their thought process is in what roles they're releasing into. Yeah Again, this is just my thought but I think crunch Isn't it wasn't picked because of a certain uh Order they were going in I think crunch was merely picked because it's a it's a fan favorite A paragon favorite. So I this it almost feels like this is where like that Marketing aspect is kicking in because they're saying hey These other three games or these other two games that look like us don't have this hero yet I'm gonna give it to you guys. Yeah, come try it out. I think that's that's the only thing that goes to my mind That they would have actually put crunch ahead of let's say another mid laner possibly a howie eggy. I mean Yeah, absolutely And I think also now that I'm just thinking about this I I really hope that that youtube account named crunch is watching this video and it's like super stoked about it Because I remember sure he is that account all over the place and so now like the justification of having that youtube account is back Oh, yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait to play with him. It's gonna be so much fun Yeah, I think I think crunch the person is going to be pretty happy about Crunch the hero hopefully And uh, I think I think it's about all I had had for fault unless you guys had anything else you wanted to say I think so. Oh All right, uh, let's move on to your predecessor not much coming out of processor. We had a howitzer video of him using his um ultimate and then um a kalari video where she zirps through like a hole in the wall and side lane and And deletes somebody so again, it's just Um, I'm happy to see these videos. I just I again, I want more meat and potatoes out of them. I want I would rather see like a long boring Like coding thing that I barely understand Then these videos at this point like was it the howie video that was showing the ping system Was it well really? I think it was either howie or I have a gideon video But I think it was the howitzer one that he he goes up in the air and he pings a character And it switches transitions to another character's perspective and there's a ping on them And so it shows that they've got some kind of I would assume it's a middle mouse ping system because no like wheel came up on Screen. Oh, that'd be so I'm curious to see what that is Uh, but that's the biggest thing that we got out of both of those videos and I wouldn't call that big necessarily Howie pinged the gideon admin league there it is now the only confusing part about that pink too is if five different teammates ping the same hero Is it gonna give me five? different pings from every direction Or is it gonna cancel everybody else's ping almost like hey that one person is pink You see what I'm saying? It's it. Hopefully that pink is gonna be pretty confusing Yeah, hopefully they go the uh Apex legends route that if somebody acknowledges your ping by hitting the ping button It kind of pulses for a second and basically either it has a voiceline and apex But for me the ping would be enough of it's someone confirming. Yes. I'm going on this person Right just the little detail there, but it's not full on getting another flag or another ping or whatever it is, right? Hopefully they've got something like that in there Because it'll drive the jungler. Sorry for cutting off macros, but it'll drive the jungler crazy If i'm trying to gank carry lane and i'm getting pings in mid and in solo And my map has all these little pings on or or my vision has all these little pings over people's heads Yeah, absolutely. I don't know how that's gonna work Only the jungler's allowed to ping and how it's her Oh The house or video does kind of illustrate something that we already knew but a lot of people may not Understand his ultimate has been changed like you no longer Has the reign of missiles that come down He just he gets to fly for a little bit and it gets a lower cooldown on his q his r2000 rocket So he can kind of spam those while he's flying around in the air so That's kind of different for people that didn't know that And then the kalari video that was kind of a cool concept where she kind of zirps through a hole in the wall to to get somebody so It shows their hitboxes are really clean, right? Their collision is also super clean as a kalari main I loved seeing that. I was like, heck. Yes. I can pull flashy plays like that. Absolutely The weird thing to me about that video Is it looked like it was a lock-on? Because she zipped through that and was instantly doing damage. She didn't like go through them to deal damage It to me felt like she locked onto the person And used that to go through the hole and perfectly deal the damage and kill them And I don't know if that's a Uh, I assume that they're doing that in the sequencer and unreal engine So I don't know if that's just the sequencer making it look staged Or it being really staged and all those things or what the deal was there Um, but I'd be very curious to see if it is lock-on now or not. Yeah Hmm. Kalari becomes really dangerous if that becomes a lock-on If she locks on that ultimate over prime I know that was my exact Over time over prime was more of a like a combination of stuff I'd understand the lock-on but a kalari with With an ability like that and alt that where she twists or turns or whatever towards the heroine you lock that on automatically Mm-hmm And she's got double 30 kills a game She's got double daggers and predecessor. So You can slow people twice and then lock on to them with your ultimate. Oh, yes, please. Where do I sign? I I think this is great. Don't ignore stun guys. I think lock-on the way to go Uh, I would love that. Thank you but only for me I ultimately kalari is not allowed to lock on major knives lock-on too. It's with those daggers lock-on I like this. I like this plan. I mean people hated kalari and Paragon hated kalari and fought might as well do it to the other games exactly see Jelly will screw up calari pretty sure they hated kalari and over prime too I think I think you should make it her knives reset when they hit So you just get unlimited knives every time you hit somebody. Oh my god. No problem. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.   It really was Um, uh, that's all I got for processor. Let's let you guys have anything else you want to talk about I don't think so All right, uh, ethereal nothing out of ethereal nothing you got. Well, you guys been quiet. What's up jelly? I don't know man. We're just being quiet. All right We're just hard at work on let that roadmap stuff. We talked about it in the last community corner if you guys didn't see it Um, we put up a roadmap a lot of the information that's on there We're kind of being a little more dormant while we work on a lot of the information So we can come out the gate swinging when we come into that next test and go really hard on all that stuff right on It's not anything to say about ethereal The whole new world ethereal is a different game. It's it's amazing ethereal is fun Yeah, for everybody out there that was like There's a lot of people that seem to think that Paragon should just be laid to rest and just do not disturb rest in peace But they still want like a third person moba Check out ethereal because that's that's exactly what you're looking for a whole new experience in the third person uh moba genre And you guys haven't even played on the new map yet. It's literally a whole new world man. Like it's it's crazy If you're bored with easy concepts and spamming bugs try it There you go.  That's for damn sure um So I think that's going to close it out for all the updates Uh, I'm not I'm not even going to worry about the poll. I'll I'll I'll try that again next week I didn't update people about the polls. I nobody really voted. So we'll move away from the poll Uh, the discussion topic Now what we're going to be talking about we already talked kind of touched on it a little bit when we were talking about crunch Is who would you like to see? added into the Any of these games next? Um And I kind of wanted just from different perspectives Uh, I told you guys to pick one or two in case we each picked the same one So, uh, let's start off with our guest stunt Stunt, who would you pick to be added in next? I picked this hero revenant for one purpose Because revenant in my opinion out of all the heroes has that one alt That these companies can get really creative with I'm curious to know How they're going to pull it off because it's not easy Uh, I didn't play revenant too much in paragon. I don't remember if you altered A person and you were under tower. Did you still get hit by the tower? No, did you get damaged? so I'm curious to know how The other the three games fault over prime and predecessor are going to pull this off Like all the other heroes obviously the abilities are pretty close a little tweak here a little tweak there We kind of know what's going on So revenant I picked revenant just for that purpose because he's a very difficult hero to To code very difficult, especially with that alt The over prime has already shown that they like over prime had revenant So they've shown that they can at least have a version of the ultimate I thought it worked pretty well. I didn't you really I didn't I'll think I touched revenant Other than you know beating his face in with steel, but I didn't play him personally Scott vangus Scott And what's his name shade his name shade in over prime, isn't it? So shades ultimate I believe what it did it rooted people to it didn't just transform to another world it rooted them and they Took damage over time. I believe Is that right jelly? I know you played a little bit dealt a burst of damage. I think as well. Okay If you were on the other side of that alt how easy was it for you to catch up to revenant and hit him? Did it oh did it stop very like? It basically relied on you having some kind of gap closer to because his distance that he could use his ultimate was fairly large actually and most of the time the only time if he was trying to get away from me and use that to Give it give him just a little bit more space. The only time I caught up to him was on kalari Or shinby because those two have the longest dashes or dash resets That allow you to do that, but if he wanted to get away, he's gone Because I didn't play him. I mean, I don't know if he gets An energy boost or he gets a health boost when he's in that Alt form He does extra damage. I think it is. Yeah um That's one of those ultimates that can easily be overloaded Or underpowered right and so I think I think over prime did a good job of kind of finding that balance I don't think revenant was necessarily balanced outside of the ultimate But I think that ultimate itself was relatively balanced. I think he was overtuned or undertuned I would probably say overtuned by a hair. Really? Really? Okay. I think I think he was it's one of those skill things over uh revenant to me Was a complicated character in that you have to manage his bullets But his kit was straightforward outside of that Right to because you had that that balance. I think revenant and over prime His kit was a little more complicated to use effectively But when you did it just destroyed people because I was by the end of that open weekend or that or that test The revenant players that were playing him all weekend were destroying consistently And so that's I think he's overtuned for people that know how to play him But then just slightly too high on the skill cap for people picking him up for the first time I think his ability to reload where you have to press a button is what confuses a lot of Paragon players because you're not used to that. You're not used to having to reload Murdoch doesn't do it. Nobody does it. So When I tried in the practice arena at the moment, I like dude by my bullets ran out. What next? What do you do now? Reload this though that way I give four shots all game. I have 20 minutes four shots I think revenant is also a good choice because uh kind of what we talked about with crunch a little bit You have fan favorites Then you have cult favorites.  Goose. You want me to go first? I want you to go first All right, because I got a bit of a controversial one actually. Oh god. It's gonna be wukong Yeah, actually I really I I do want to see wukong as the next hero for these games And I have a kind of a specific reason as to why is wukong I think Will show very quickly what the capabilities of the balance department and their game development departments are Because wukong is overtuned as all hell in paragon And there was a reason that they couldn't nerf him far enough to keep him down Because great you've now nerfed this thing that was oppressive great. There's three other mechanics that are oppressive now Oh, you nerfed all three of those great. This one's now oppressive to the point. They basically had to completely gut him And then he was unplayable Right and so but then they didn't like that so they had to bring stuff back He was a balanced nightmare and I think from that perspective. I want to see Wukong implemented into these games to see where they go with it and how they address that balanced nightmare Because wukong had a cult following not as much as like revenant or anything But those players you're gonna have to appease those because they'll come back to the game for wukong Even if they're the the edge lords that just wanted to stomp on towers all game for in a five minute game But you've also got the stance switching For wukong and I think that's something that none of these games have Gone too far into grim and fault. I really love because of the stance switching But it's kind of a very base version of that Yeah, whereas wukong was way more fleshed out in this full stance switch And I think that as a concept That is very difficult to balance in and of itself And so I'm curious to have a stance switcher in there that really rewards the high skill cap players That's that's interesting stunt with like Stunt with with a programming challenge you went with a balancing challenge As far as adding like add this so that we can that we can see that you can do this like Add revenue so that we can see you can program his ultimate add wukong so we can see that you can balance your gain and I think For me a close second. It was hard to pick between the two wraith is the same way And that I would say wraith falls under that balance that you have to have a very key understanding of what the balance is in your game For wraith to be put in the game and not be oppressive or useless all the time. See that's my pick, but There you go. Perfect. Then we'll get into it right now We'll let let we haven't given stunt a chance to talk about wukong and I have a few things to say as well Even though I played with wukong to me When you have a hero that Has the ability to escape And has the ability to attack And in perfect in a perfect condition like he didn't he didn't have issues to me A good balance of wukong was get rid of the ability to escape Get rid of that stance and just let him have pure power You know, I mean so people Actually learned how to pick fights.    I'll wait And I think wukong is The worst version of kalari Because kalari also had that same issue where she could go in and get out with no strings Right that. Oh, okay. I envis to get in I dagger you I ult you I do whatever I need to do Double jump in this and where what are you going to do now? You can't yeah, right? And so wukong took that to a whole other level And people were already pissed off about kalari.  Yeah, well I say he had four he had four ultimates and one basic ability. Yeah He's been boris has been toned down since then but uh Yeah, I don't know it would be nice to see wukong just to see how they could balance him. I like that like that choice Uh, you guys what do you want to get into mine? You want to talk about mine? Let's do it Let's do it. All right. So I mean jelly art brought it up wraith wraith would be my pick Not because I was a huge wraith fan or anything. I did enjoy wraith, you know He was he was a fun hero but I would I would like to see wraith get added because of the variety of roles that he can play he could be off lane mid lane ADC or support you don't see many that could be adc or support You know what I mean and wraith could do both because of his rewind ability was an excellent support tool to keep Keep your uh, your adc out of trouble and he had his ward just on command And um, he would fill it and then you could just take him to mid lane You can take him up. I think he's just a great all-around hero That would be an excellent addition to any of these games Just just to fill out the roster and have more people more picks for people for everybody Yeah, that's my only real reason I completely agree with you I think there's some things about his kit that have to be looked at right the reset on his q Of course can't be a thing right or it can't be as easy to execute in that regard His rewind was consistently too strong because of just the nature of the ability I would love to see some kind of activation mechanic rather than just let me press a button and buy right like Like have it be I have to eq them or I have to See them on a ward and then press e or whatever would give it some kind of extra Thing to get that bonus effect right have it have some kind of base weaker of version but to get the full fledged Rewind give it some kind of extra effect. I also love his ultimate Even though it's relatively underpowered as ultimates go I think it creates opportunities for coordinated play That we don't really see in a lot of these games right now Then like full-on coordinated play and by association Similar to when kalari was released in fault It forces people to learn how to ward because you have to know where people are Before that ultimate drops so you can have an expectation of what's going to happen And make it a little quieter Make his entire kit a little quieter I like the idea of an activation for his for a rewind I think it'd be cool if you marked him with e and then you had to hit them with the snipe in order For it to actually rewind them. Yeah, I think that's fine I give it give it just that that little bit of something That makes it harder. It's still relatively easy to pull off But it's not just purely hundred percent consistent, right And I'm and that would kind of take away Like one of the easier ways to play him was you see somebody low health You hit him with rewind and then you just wait for them to go back to the spot You know, they're gonna be and whack them with the snipe It provides a level of counter play if he hits me with his the initial part of his e And I know he's looking for the snipe Then I double jump his calari then I do a dash then I use giddy in portal Then I whatever the thing is to provide just that little bit of chance that I have to get away Instead of it just being I don't get to play the game for the next three seconds Because no matter what I do. I'm just going back to three seconds ago. Yeah I agree. I mean, uh, I he didn't he didn't go through my mind. I totally forgot about him, but rate has that balancing and um The coding issue too I mean Most of these games have a count is that Rewinds back from the original spot. She came from But rate to go back three seconds You know, I mean, it's gonna it's gonna it's interesting how these companies are gonna pull it off We know overprime might be able to pull it off the gideon almost did that or I don't know if gideons was just a pool or a rewind, but That right click You were brought back into the uh the center of that of that target so it's interesting rate has bought a A balancing and a coding challenge Yeah, depending on the length of the rewind you have to consistently store the coordinates of where they were Three seconds ago five seconds ago. Yeah, or every character in the game any every enemy character in the game Oh god, can you imagine being able to rewind your your allies?  I would hundred percent get in the game with mangoes as my support and be like Rewind. Bye. My marriage is going in.  You're like, dude, you're supposed to pull me the opposite Not just leash on me back into power. They just freak out sometimes and pull just pull. They just pull Just do the thing I think that's about all I had to say for the uh topic the specialist She goes anything else you wanted to add to what heroes you wanted to See next No I want you guys let us know in the comments below. Let us know what hero You would like to see added to any of these games next and for what reason It can be just because you like I'm not gonna that's that's fine by me, but uh Yeah, that's going about wrapping up. Let's move on to plugs stunt. You got anything you want to plug Just by twitch channel stunt underscore v Right on he's got a pretty badass logo. I don't know if you guys thanks. Thanks to man Yeah, I was gonna say Not not only did mangoes design it it's gonna go on a hoodie right now. There you go. I'll go about that hoodie Wait, wait, wait till you see the emotes like my subscriber emotes stuff.  I'm moving this weekend. So super exciting. This will be the last time you have this backdrop for me Uh, yeah, and so not for this week, but maybe by next week I'm sad. I'm moving the day crunch comes out. So I'm like, oh computer access all day Kind of feels so bad. Uh, I can't write jelly. He's going to void lane. You're gonna see a water It's okay, I'll come back on sunday and still already be better than man Ouch probably Checks out checks out All right, folks that is going to close it out for this week. Appreciate you coming out if you're watching the premiere This is the end and uh, and thanks for watching if you're watching this as a video This is also the end and thanks for watching.