Welcome to another episode of in the studio. I'm Lynn Weaver. Our topic is the Battle of the Books, which is an event taking place in Davis on October 15th to benefit the Hattie Webber Museum. And my guests are Randy Jones of the UC Davis Writing Program, a poet and interpreter of poetry. Andy has taught classes on TS Eliot and poetry of the beat generation and close reading of poetry and as well as the advanced poetry writing workshop. He's done other things. He happens to be the poet laureate of Davis and he also has the time for a radio show. Now what radio show do you host? Thank you and I host Dr. Andy's Poetry and Technology Hour on KDVS and I've been there since the year 2000. So 15 years now on the air talking about poetry and technology. A lot of poems flowing. Absolutely, any poets. Like your show it's an interview show so I get to welcome new people every week. Oh that's fantastic. Shelly Dunning, she's the co-sponsor of the event with the avid reader, a resident of Davis, the mother of four and the well-known promoter of frugal February and you might wonder what this is. It's an experiment that Shelly has done with family and it was so interesting that it made ABC Good Morning America and you might wonder what that is. It's a story of a family trying to beat the lures of consumerism by not spending any money during a whole month. Welcome. Thank you. And then we have Kate Durin. She's a writer, a communication director and board member of the Smith-Lemley-Opese Syndrome Foundation and she's also the coordinator of the new parent support group I believe Mother and Baby Source. Andy and Kate are co-authors of the book of poems and essay titled Where is Duke? Yes, which is one of the books entered in the battle of the books. Welcome all. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Now Shelly, I'm going to start right with you and ask you, tell us more about the battle of the book. Sure. And yeah. Well, Battle of the Books will be a first event sponsored by the Davis Store. The Davis Store is a little project that my family and I started this past summer. It's in progress but it's basically a little souvenir shop and the goal of the Davis Store is to make enough money to put on events to raise more money for local nonprofits. So our first event, Battle of the Books, is to benefit our very special Hattie Webber Museum and it is a take on an event that we, the authors and myself and many, many parents in Davis have long wanted to be a part of our elementary schools in Davis and our junior highs participate in Battle of the Books at those levels and every year we as parents are fortunate to be judges in our children's activities. So rather than reading children's books, we have taken six wonderful Davis authors. The talent in Davis is amazing. Chosen five books and we have challenged Davis readers to form teams, divide up the book list, read a book and then come to the event where the authors will challenge their knowledge and their comprehension. So the author themselves will be present. Yes and that's the exciting thing about this event is Davis has some pretty impressive talent and to be in the same room with all of those authors while they're quizzing you on their works is very fun. It's very thrilling. It's very thrilling. What a wonderful initiative and you, so if say I would like to participate Shelley, what would I do? Well when you choose to participate and I know you will, you will simply find a group of friends and your team can be three to five people and we're very flexible. So if two of you would like to form a team and you'd like to read all the books that's great. If you'd like to get five people on your team, choose the book, get your team members names, go to the davisstore.com and click on the events tab and register and then read the books and show up. That's fabulous. Now we have a poster of the event and I would like to show it so that we can get the dates and the wear and all that and so it's October 15th and as Shelley just mentioned you can go to the davis store and register and I believe it's a very when very minor registration fee. Yeah and so this is how you do it and on October 15th seems very very soon to have read all these books but you can read only one. That's right. The way I understand it. Okay well that is good. Now Shelley one more question for you and then I'll go to Andy and Kate. Where's the battlefield? The battlefield is St. James Memorial Hall and that's located on B Street next to St. James Church. Yes. The event will begin at six o'clock. We'll have food, we'll have wine and the focus as Andy and Kate will tell you is really on fun that night. So if you choose not to compete that night you would just like to come support the Hattie Weber Museum. Sign up on the website, come have a glass of wine, root for your friends and meet the authors. That's really going to be the highlight of the event. That's wonderful. Now Andy and Kate have co-authored and before I come to your book which I haven't read but I'm looking forward very much to reading it. I would like to direct our camera to the five books that have been selected for this event and one is Indelibly Davis by former Chancellor Larry Vanderhoof and then the other one is the very famous by the very famous author John Lesquaw and this time it's The Fall I think it's his latest book, isn't it right? And then another famous author is Stan Robinson, Kim Stan Robinson and this is Aurora again his latest book and perhaps you can help me Andy with the other two books and what are they? Sure one is Land Falls by Naomi Williams. She's also a Davis. She's a Davis author and she's been a member of many writing groups and Land Falls has really worked its way into the adoration of the critics. People across the country have highlighted it for praise. It's a historical novel about a French sea trip that took place in the 18th century. At first blush it might not seem like an enthralling topic but I'm reading the book now and I think it's very engaging and I've heard Naomi read from it and it's it's just terrific so I would encourage people to check that out. And then the fifth book is Where's Juki and as you mentioned before this is a book that Kate and I wrote together about the joys and challenges of raising a son with special needs and as a poet I've contributed the 30 or so poems in here and Kate is an essayist and blogger and so she's got about eight or so essays in here. Yes I was intrigued by the fact that it was this different format poems and essayist and I'm looking forward to talking a little more about the book itself but just as a note and it's sort of a note but a question too these are all Davis authors right? We live in a very interesting town I must say and I I have looked I have read several of the books by John Roskra and I haven't read anything by Stan Robinson because oh I don't know I like romance rather than science fiction so now one other thing that that is very important and perhaps I should ask Kate but please jump in what were who selected the books and what were the criteria I know I'm being on shaky grounds here I don't have to you don't have to reveal everything. You know I think when we first came up with this idea these were the only authors we invited and I think because they all had first of all they're all very well known but they all had very recent works and so that was that was kind of the the criteria is they they had very current works out there that people hadn't read yet and so that was that was a fun way for us to bring in readers and and have them read new works so. A great deal of coordination and perseverance I suppose to organize all this. Yes definitely but I have to say I'm so impressed with with the authors I think you know I talked to friends across the country who know a lot of these names and they're they think it's phenomenal that they're participating and I think for them they think this is Davis this is our Hattie Weber Museum of course I would love to be a part of this so it's really been a very easy very fun process to organize. Well I'm glad to hear I'm glad to hear so Kate let's talk a little bit about this book is it particularly about your son. Yes so Andy and I have a son who was born with a rare genetic syndrome he's now 14 years old and I find that what helps me sort of just get through those challenging days is to think as I'm going through the day I often actually think about writing it in my head maybe that's a little odd or maybe that's just what writers do but sometimes I'm just I'm actually taking notes in my head and thinking this moment is so odd or so crazy or so funny that I have to write it down and so I started writing essays and I started collecting them together on a blog and all about the sort of joys and challenges of raising this very special but kind of rascally rascally boy right and you know life is not always easy with him but I wanted to share some of the joy that I think is sort of hidden for families like ours because people sometimes see us on the street and think you know you know oh that poor family has that huge challenge thank god that's not my kid you know yeah I think there's a lot of that. I dislike that attitude totally because it is very demeaning and it it doesn't doesn't make sense sorry this is just my editorial here but you're I say so they have different themes different topics I wanted to share some of the some of the things that I think people don't know about about raising a child like Juki so I wrote about some of the happy times with him you know some of the times that we have caused to celebrate but I also write about some of the deeply sad moments moments of course and Juki is Juki the name of yourself so his name is actually Jackson but his sister nicknamed him when Juki yeah when he was a baby and it's stuck now I understand you have a short excerpt that I've asked you to read I do yes we our time is very limited but hopefully it is short because I'd like to go to Andy and have a little bit of his a little snippet of his poem as well so please go ahead okay so this is titled meet Juki meet Juki probably more than any other photo I have this one shows Juki's true self yes he is sitting inside a box on the top shelf of his closet yep that box is dangerously close to falling off the shelf notice the artful balancing act with his right foot Juki lives on the edge he's never happier than when teetering on the brink the edge of a high shelf a rooftop at midnight or the limit of his mom's patience we're used to the quizzical looks from strangers Juki calls attention to himself I'll have to stop you because we are running out of time but very quickly Andy would you like to read a little bit and but this already you can see how you want more yes exactly well that's the purpose you know the 15 minutes it's such a short time and I apologize for that I'll read some from the first poem in the book which is called my entropy elephant about 30 seconds or so he is my entropy elephant my kangaroo of chaos the contents of all drawers will be revealed all shirts become t-shirts all gowns strapless if a tree falls in the forest run to take the axe from his hands if the water main has broken he has taken a break water seeks its own level and this boy is a guide so that's a little bit from the first poem and where lovely absolutely roughly well I'm afraid our time is up it went very quickly I am so grateful that you took the time to be on my show and I wish you the very best of success for this I think it's going to enrich the life of Davis literary and level of you know intellect and Davis and hopefully you'll have it next year as well that's our hope yes October 15th is the date I want to remind your viewers and that they're all welcome to come join us over excellent so Dr. Randy Jones Shelley Dunnan and Kate During thank you so much and thank you all for being here and for watching in the studio if you'd like to stream this episode you can go to dctvdctv.davismedia.org and we're also we will be on YouTube and while you're there you might want to check out some of our other shows we have very illustrious guests and fascinating topics so and please I don't want to forget to thank our prestigious technical crew Kevin Calvin and Matthew and of course Diane who is the technical director thank you all so much and see you next time


Hello everybody, welcome back to Esoteric Atlanta. Happy Saturday. Unfortunately, things got really busy this month. And so we did not get a chance to get in our June tea leaf reading with our favorite tea leaf reader, Sarah Adamson. But she is here today. What we thought we would do today is we would just do a brief catch up with Sarah so you guys can get a chance to get to know her better as a human being, as a Canadian patriot. And then we would soon in the next couple weeks do the July reading, get back to our July tea leaf reading. But in the meantime, after this episode airs, I am gonna be doing a giveaway. I am gonna be drawing one lucky person to have a 30 minute tea leaf reading privately with Sarah on Esoteric Atlanta. The channel will be paying for it for you. 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I hate that we even have to divide countries at this point because I just feel like we're one, we're the, even though the globalists want us and one global thing, I feel like we're their worst nightmare. We're like, we are dispersed amongst. We're dispersed and we support each other but in a good way. In a good way. In a good way. And Sarah and I of course have been chit chatting and catching up and I did put an introduction to this video.  So we did not get to do a June tea leaf reading for this month, for the month of June 2023 but surprise, surprise on Monday, this upcoming Monday which is the 19th. Sarah's going to have, she just showed me the cup. I'm not a tea leaf reader but that cup looks pretty bodacious. So. I didn't see any smooching but there were a few hearts so. No smooching but a few hearts. Okay. We'll take the heart. We'll take the heart. We'll take the heart. So on Monday guys and actually Sarah when you release the video on Monday let me know and I'll put it on my community tab so that people can catch up with what's going on and get a feel for what's going on and then of course we'll have you back at the end of June to do a July reading and I announced this in the beginning but I'm going to announce it again you guys. So I said one, we're going to give away one reading with Sarah but I just changed my mind. I can do that. We're going to give two readings away. So I would like for you again if you want a tea it's a 30 for a 30 minute tea leaf reading with Sarah if you would like to be entered into the drawing to have a session, a 30 minute session with Sarah for two people put your name down in the comment section below write Sarah S-A-R-A-H, Sarah with an H and put Sarah in the comment section so I can see all your names so that by the time she comes back we'll be able to look in a poll to winners for a free reading with Sarah. So exciting. So exciting. So Sarah what's been going on with you? Just really getting over this cold that I've had for almost six weeks now on Saturday essentially. So if I done a little bit stuffy or a little bit foggy throughout my apologies that I'm drinking my, okay I don't drink tea we know that but I do like Roybus tea so I am happily drinking my Roybus tea so I'm doing that.  So I had to do two, I got the two done and just posted a short and just getting myself finally caught up there and I've recorded the new TV screening. So that is, yeah it looks quite crazy. It's gonna be whatever coming up for the next two weeks I have to like listen to the recording that I did to like remember all the details but essentially a lot of love a lot of partnerships, a lot of craziness but a lot of good stuff like a lot of abundance there had to have been like, I don't know seven trees or something. So for me tree abundance that's just what it means to me this readings are like that's how I do it. So for me abundance is trees and TV screening. So it's there were multiple and there were partnerships and it was interesting too because like the tree will lead to another tree that will lead to another tree that will lead to the partnership that will lead be it was quite interesting. It's like stepping stones. It's stepping stones. Yes, a hundred and that's exactly what I said without using those words because as I was looking at it I'm like whatever this is it's we may find ourselves and it's a general reading so entertainment purposes only take what you will and leave what you don't but it really looks to me like one leads to the next leads to the next leads to the next leads to the next and it's like a consistent thing during the next two approximately weeks. And interestingly that does go into is looking at the calendar goes into the dates for me goes into the first week of July which oh gosh, hang on one second so I'm gonna check the calendar. I'm using one phone and using my other phone here. It goes into like the next weekend so the week of July 1st heading into like July 3rd. So July 1st is Canada Day and July 4th is Independence Day. So whatever it's leading up to it's two significant dates in North America anyway. So I just found that to be very interesting. This is big astrologically too because we know if the American Revolution actually happened which if you're new to this channel and you're like why is she saying that LOL anymore? I'm not so sure about a whole lot of them now. I don't know, I don't know really. Maybe it's in, maybe it was a cover up. We don't know these things. We don't know anymore. We don't know what our history is anymore but if we're gonna do the mainstream knowledge that July 4th is like our Independence Day but we didn't actually, it was like the 3rd or the 2nd or something that we actually won. They pick the 4th my friends, get this. They pick the 4th because that is the day it has something to do with the sun and the earth pulling away from the sun where it's the most important from the power of the sun. Which if you look at that from a dark cult perspective the sun has always been the representation of light and of goodness, right? It's probably a portal. We don't quite know yet but we know nothing's as insane. Probably. Probably at this point, yeah. They mark this day of celebration for the United States as a day basically and take it for what it is but astrologically is a day to kind of mock God. That we're pulling away it's the farthest we can. Which I think as far as like, I mean I'm not God but if I were God, we're all fractals of God but as an American and I'm sure the same for Canada today in Canada we have pride in our country, like we're proud of our ancestors so it's not really, it didn't really work that way. Like we weren't, we were proud of the independence and all that kind of stuff so but it's interesting you said you saw that leading up to that because astrologically, that's a pretty big deal, astrologically. Interesting and I did not even know that because I would say repeatedly in every reading and I'm like, I'm no astrologer, I'm no numerologist, I don't know. I'm just saying what I'm saying so I have no idea so I had didn't even know that. I'm not an astrologer either. I mean I feel like I love astrology but I'm not, I just know what I've heard other astrologers say and so that's very, very fascinating to see. So maybe we'll see what the universe has up its sleeve. We know that the great elevation, the great ascension is upon us and then nothing can stop what's coming. I mean literally nothing can stop what's coming and we know that the bad guys are also harvesting too just like the good people are and so they're gonna be here with us until the end of, end of the road but nothing can stop what's coming and so it'll just be interesting to see what happens. I mean we've got so many things heating up here in the United States with Mr. T and that should end again and everything going on. We've also got Kennedy, Robert Kennedy putting in his nod which is very interesting that he's, because he's not really like him. We'll see, it's gonna be very interesting to see what this next, this full year provides as far as what's gonna be happening but Sarah, so I wanna ask you, so I've been doing this with my guests, my friends. What is something about you, Sarah, that nobody knows? Oh that's a good question, that nobody knows. Like hidden talent or like something weird that no one would know or suspect about you? Well on YouTube, I don't think, like on my channel I don't think I've ever, I guess I said that I love Gaelic I know some Gaelic and I also know some Irish songs I can sing in Irish, that might be something. That's cool, I don't know Gaelic or Gaelic, I don't know that language, that's cool. It's cool, so there's Scottish Gaelic, I don't know the language but like there's Scottish Gaelic and then there's Irish Gaelic. So they're very similar, it's just that they're different. So I know a little bit of both, I love, I love Scottish Gaelic but both languages are beautiful. I think that might be something else nobody knows. I'll have to really stop, thank you for a second. I asked Angie's question and that was the video we did about Angie's arrest when Angie got arrested and got thrown in a cell with a woman named Sparkle. I'm a killer poker player, nobody, I rock at poker. But yeah, no, okay, so yeah, I'm sure there's other hidden talents that I can actually touch my tongue to my nose. I can't do that. I'm gonna have to look that up because that's interesting. So yeah, it's very interesting, like they talk about like the fact that I can stick my tongue out and touch my nose. I can't do that. When I was in college and I was like wipe my chance, I'm sure I'd do that. When I was in college and I was studying like different literatures and stuff and the history of different things, there was a professor that said back in the day they would only allow people in the performing arts that could touch their tongue to their nose because I hadn't even heard the way the tongue can actually, the diction of certain words. Now with that being said, because of my anxiety, I do kind of struggle sometimes if I get kind of flustered sometimes because of anxiety, so that's different. But yeah, it's very interesting to study. My sister can do the three, the curling of the tongue and there's the three thing that you can make it like the three little, my sister can do that, but I cannot do that, so. Okay, I don't think I can, never try it, but I don't think I can. Like I have a hard enough time talking, like I just can't always like. I think you're a great talker, don't worry. Thank you very much. Thank you.  The fast talking, that's the Vata in you. That's the me too, same sister's name. I can't hear very well. I'm very hard of hearing. I think it's the same RH negative as the tongue thing is an RH negative thing as well. But my ear drums are my ear canal. So the drum is shaped differently than most people. So I have procedures done every once in a while, but I literally have a hard time hearing. From Catherine Edwards and I are the same with that.  I just literally can't hear very well. So go ahead. So as it could have been me just blaring music when I was a teenager, but. I don't have that, but I've always heard like a high pitch ringing in my ears. I don't think it's like any medical condition. I've always had it. And if you can go up and down and I eventually when I was taking like reiki classes and energy healing classes and things. One of my teachers was like, yeah, you're hearing energy. Like you're like that is what you're hearing. And I can tell sometimes like in if it can get very, very loud sometimes almost the point where I'm like, okay, I need to like listen to the radio or I need to do something else, put it on some music or put on something just to sort of drown it out because it can be quite loud. But if that's the case, I know helpers are around or up in a place with a lot of energy or whatever the case is. But I don't have what you have, but I do have a similar thing with the ears. That's interesting. You know, I would love to hear from our friends watching right now like what your little quirks are with your body and weird.  I have an extra vertebrae, so I don't have 33, I have 34 vertebrae. I have an extra organ. Now some RH negatives have like, I know a friend who's also a negative and she has an extra kidney, which is really handy. If you're gonna get to have an extra organ like having an extra liver or an extra kidney is very handy. Not just for you, but for any loved ones. I have an extra urinary tube. Well, that's helpful, right? I think God was like, L-O-O. By the way, there you go. I was like, she'll get a kick out of this when she's, I remember when I was excited, I had this terrible digestion problems as a child. Like Sarah and I are the same age. We both grew up in the 80s and the 90s. And I have had terrible allergies. I talked about this a little bit with Shanti and Catherine today on Solutions with Aquarius Rising Africa. I have terrible food allergies. Part of that is the RH negative, just having a very dry colon. A lot of it's also the Vata as well. And when I was a child, I would like, my parents are probably like, what karma is this when I was born? I would literally, I'd be fine all day. I was like eight years old, seven, eight, nine, something like that. I'd be fine all day. And then I'd wake up in the middle of the morning or in the middle of the night and I would project all vomit. And I actually remember this. Like I remember waking up. I wouldn't go to my bathroom. I would run down the hall to my parents bedroom. And that's where I would project all vomit. Oh, your dear parents were like, oh no, oh my God. This is somehow in my eight year old head. I was like, I'm gonna go to my dad's room and do this. But I'd be fine all day. Like I'd be totally fine. I'd just wake up in the middle of the night. And it was like, literally that was like my hidden talent at that age was I could just make it fly. And so my parents took me to the pediatrician and he was like, I don't know, I don't know what to tell ya. And so they sent me to Scottish Rite Medical Children's Hospital to specialize in my, and they did an ultrasound on my stomach to watch. And that's when the doctor saw my extra urinary tube. She was like, hold on.  And either side, so one side has tube on my, in my body and the doctor was like, your kid has three urinary tubes. They're like, oh. And my parents like, does this mean anything? They're like, no. I'm hyper extended. I don't have like extra vertebrae, but I'm hyper extended. So my lower vertebrae are very tight together. So it's very difficult sometimes.  Yep. And that. Yeah, that's the hyper, that's core, get your core strong. Yeah, for that. But no, it's, the human body is actually quite comical. I mean, there's so many, there's so many things about the human body. I would love to hear you guys let us know your funny stories about your body too. So, did you project albuminous child all over your parents' bedroom? I can't say that I ever did, but hey, there was one instance that I won't get into, but yeah, there was, yeah. Okay, I will say. I have to just remember that. I have a memory. So I will tell you guys another time I project albuminous. I was 12 years old. This is when I had my appendix taken out, which I don't know. I might have to bleep this out because I've been sitting for a while. So I might have some creases on my stomach, but I have a nice little scar there. So nowadays, apparently, when somebody has an appendicitis, they just like go in through the belly button or whatever and are little tiny. It's very, very, but back in the dark ages, back in the days of Yorn. Back when wheels were oval, they hadn't graduated to being round yet. Before fire was invented. They had to literally hack you in half, hack your body in half to get that sucker out. Well, I'll tell you guys, I'll never forget, and this was before I had gone, I went vegetarian at like 14. So, and this might be, I had an instance when I was five, when I realized animals were food and I got upset, but then your parents make you eat. But maybe this is why chicken became a no-no to me because, okay, it was a Sunday. It was a Sunday down here in the deep cell. It was the month of May. I was 12. We were at church. We were at church. I remember that I had a flower. It was like a Laura Ashley flower dress on those hideous things with the big collars that our mom has put us in in the 80s. Oh, yeah. Anyway, and I was so excited because this, it was May and we were gonna go to my grandparent's house for lunch after church and their pool was open.  So, I remember sitting in church and I was so excited to swim. So, the church gets out, we go to grandma and my granddaddy's house, my dad's parents' house and we're having our fried chicken. And I'm just so anxious to get through lunch because I wanna go swimming. All of a sudden, during lunch, I start to feel this weird pain in my stomach.  I just told you, I'm quite talented when it comes to projectile vomiting. So, obviously, I was, but this, I remember it was a very different pain. It was different. I remember going to the kitchen to make my play and having to stop for a moment because it hurts so bad. To the point where all of a sudden, I didn't wanna swim anymore. So, I was sitting out by the pool and my Laura Ashley church dress haven't even changed. And I'm telling my mom and my dad, I don't feel good, I don't feel good, I don't feel good. And my mother thinks that I'm trying to devise a plan to concoct a plan to not go to school tomorrow. So, she's thinking I'm trying to get out and go to school tomorrow and I've still got some homework to do and all that kind of stuff.  She hasn't even bothered to take, she must really not be feeling well. So, my dad took me home while my mom stayed with my sister, while my sister swam. I did my homework and my mom, and then it's like getting close to bedtime, my stomach still hurts really bad. And I remember I was sitting on the toilet, like as a 12 year old, like sitting on the toilet holding my stomach. My mom walks in the bathroom, my mom looks at me, she goes, you're going to school tomorrow. You are going to school tomorrow. Still thinking I'm trying to get out. Oh, gosh. So, I get in bed that night and around 10 o'clock, I start, again, projectile vomiting. So, my mom and I, we moved around to every bed in the house that night because every time I would sit up and vomit, it would just get everywhere so my mother would have to strip the bed. My mom and I would move to the, I ended up in my parents' bedroom by the time the next day came around. And at that point, I was just dry heaving because there was nothing left. And I remember laying in my parents' bed and my parents were having a conversation. It was like seven o'clock in the morning. My dad was going to take my sister to school. And my dad was telling my mom, my dad's a veterinarian. So my dad, he's a doctor. He, my dad was telling my mom, it's probably just a stomach virus. Just wait and bring her in at nine when the pediatrician's office opens.  It's probably just a stomach virus. So no need, because my dad was very sensitive because he would be on call about calling doctors and off hours when it was really probably just a virus.  And I'll get into that. I was dry heaving so much. My mother was like, okay, I need to take you to the doctor. We're not going to go to your pediatrician. We're going to go to urgent care because they're open. So we go to urgent care. And the doctor, Dr. Holcomb, was a doctor at urgent care. My mother knew him. And he was feeling around in my stomach. And at first he was like, it does kind of sound. He's like, yeah, it's probably a stomach virus, but it might be her. He kept saying it might be her appendix. And my parents had not even considered that, but he took my blood. My white blood count was up, which is indication of an appendicitis. And then they did an MRI X-ray to look and see. And what it looked like in this MRI X-ray thing was my col... It looks like something was wrong with my colon. Not my colon looks swollen, not my appendix. And so Dr. Holcomb was really, now guys, again, this is the dark ages. I'm sure technologies, I'm 40 now. I'm sure technology is a lot better now. But yeah, I remember him looking at this X-rays thing. This is really weird. It's looking like something's wrong with her colon. And so Dr. Holcomb told my mother we need to get her into the hospital. I want her to be observed by a surgeon. And so my mother took me to the hospital. This is all before nine o'clock, by the way, before my pediatrician was even at the office. And so I go to Dr. Davis, who actually took over after my grandfather was head of surgery and Dr. Davis took over from my grandfather, so my mother gave me to him. So there was some family connection there. And Dr. Davis was very curious about why my white blood count was up and why my colon was swollen. Meanwhile, I'm getting sicker and sicker. I mean, I remember, like I have a visceral memory, like it was yesterday, of just being just like so sick. And so Dr. Davis is like, we're going to keep her under observation for a few days because I'm not quite convinced this is a stomach virus. And Dr. Davis told my parents, he thought it was Crohn's disease, which would have made sense because I had struggled with my stomach my whole life. But he was like, but I wanna observe her.  She's got a stomach virus.  So this is why I'm saying it was really great. My mother intuitively knew to take me to urgent care because if I had gone to the pediatrician, I would have been sent home and I would have died. So a couple of days go by in the hospital, they're giving me all these drugs to try to numb the pain, which might have started me on a habit of trying to chase that dragon when I got to college. Just saying, because I remember sitting there, they put me on a drug and they got my parents got me to walk around. I sat down on a chair in the hospital room and I remember my mom and my dad going, Bryce? Bryce? And I was just like, I remember that. And I remember my mother looking at my dad going, oh my God, she's so high. She's so... 12, like I wore a training bra. Like I was 12 years old. Yeah, I still play with Barbies. Like those little kids that they're like... Oh, girl, hang on.  And every morning then they would ask me if it hurt on my right side. They would be like, does it hurt on your right side? Well, it hurt all over my body. So I would say no, it hurts everywhere. Like... It hurts everywhere. But it kept getting progressively worse as the days went on.  And so I... This one on for days? This one for days. So I had no... And they kept asking me if it hurt on my right side. And I didn't know what that meant, I got 12. Like I had no idea that was an indication of an appendicitis. Like there was something that they were worried about my right side. And so the nurse came in with that morning and she was like, does it hurt on your right side? I said, yes it does. I just said, yes it does. Totally lied to her. Totally lied to her. And she goes, okay, that's good. So she leaves the room. The next thing I know, I'm being prepped for surgery. Like all of a sudden... You're like, I just said yes, that's all I said. You're 12, I didn't know that's where they were taken. I was just on a ride on my hospital bed. Like we're just riding through the elevator. They're giving me the good drugs. My parents are coming with me. I didn't know what surgery was from. And then all of a sudden my parents say goodbye to me. I'm being rolled in there, I'm laying there and they're like, okay, Bryce, I need you to count down from 10. And it's like 10.   So I wake up in recovery and all I can feel is like this pressure on my stomach. It was awful. And the nurse brings me back and I start getting emotional. So I'm like, what did I do? I lied, I lied to the nurse and I know something happened.  And so I feel a lot of recovery in there. They're willing to go to the hall to my hospital room. I see my mother standing there. I'll never forget what she had on. This was like the 90s. She had on this big white, nice, like designer T-shirt with matching shorts, like very 90s and like kids, you know? And my mother's like all emotional. My mom's five too. My dad's six, four. And so they're standing beside each other. I see them. I lied, I'm sorry. My mom's all emotional. My dad's got his hands on his hip and I looked at my mom and I said, why, why? But I've actually gone through surgery and my mother's looking at me. She's like, I'm glad you lied. She's like, I'm glad you lied. She's like, your appendix was like hours away from bursting. I'm glad you lied. And it turned out what had happened, what had happened was my appendix, cause I guess I was such a small, skinny kid with like an extra organ and an extra bone. My appendix decided to wrap itself under my colon. So on the picture from the dark ages, it looked like my colon was swollen when it was actually my appendix that was under, that was tucked up under the colon. And so, and so I was so upset and I kept apologizing for lying. Like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry I lied. Sorry, like that was a lesson I learned.  What kind of karma is that? And next thing I know, my stomach's been cut open. And they were like, no, they kept saying, I apologize to the doctor for lying. And they were like, no, no, no, it's a good thing because your appendix was about to rupture. And so you need it, we just didn't know. And if your appendix ruptures and they don't clean it out, it's deadly. So, and if a appendix ruptures and then they go in for surgery, it's a much more serious operation. So they were like, it's totally fine, it's totally fine. But then I had to stay in the hospital for a little bit longer because of, I guess, because I had got tucked up in a colon. So I was stuck in there for like a week after surgery, I was still there. And then after I got released from this, so, let me explain. So if your children have issues with lying and you're trying to teach them, just tell, just share the story, share the story. Allow them to speak. Sometimes when a, when a surgery happens, you have all the different layers of skin, right? So the bodily fluids, if for some reason the skin isn't stitched up totally correct, bodily fluids can kind of get in between the layers of skin. Now my stomach was already swollen because it had been hacked open. And it took me a really long time to get the guts up to actually look at my scar when I was 12. And I don't know if you can see. So this side, there's one side of my, it was over here. I don't know if you can see that. There was a huge indention there because what happened was, my incision around that was healing instead of the swelling going down, the swelling just kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger. Like it looked like a tumor was growing out of the side of my, and I was, did you remember umbrows from the 90s? Umbrows, shorts, oh, soccer shorts we wore. Oh, right. Umbrows every day because I couldn't get my shorts on. Right, right, right, right. So finally my mother was like, that doesn't look right. So she called Dr. Davis and I remember going into his office like off hours and met him there. And he was like, oh, this happens sometimes. Her fluids, her fluids got stuck. We've got to just basically pop it. So he takes this like, you know those long, and the doctor's office is stick with a cotton swab. He just went, prepare. Oh my God. It hurts so freaking bad. And all of a sudden, all of this fluid just started coming out of my stomach. And I remember, because we had just studied old faithful in school, you know, Yosemite, the where it explodes.  I was, um, it's so, and so that's, that's, um, yeah. That was started with Project all Bobbitt guys. And then I ended up with this dog.  When I, when I lived in Los Angeles, when I was after college, when I lived in LA now, because of my age, because I'm 40, I wear higher-waisted bikinis. They're great ladies. If you're of a certain age, control top, higher-waisted. But when I was like 22, 23, 24, living in LA, I would wear like skimpy bikinis. And somebody saw my scar and was like, did you get into a gang fight? And I was like, sure did. Sure did. Totally got into a gang fight down in Compton. Sure did. I took it. I took a slice of my hair. Absolutely. That's what happened. I lied into the game. You lied again. You lied again. Sure did. Surely did. I was in a gang fight down in Compton. Oh my God. What a story.  He didn't know. I remember my friends coming to visit me in the hospital because I was either, I think he spoke because I was probably, you know, we're 12, right? You're 12. We were still playing with Barbies at 12. That's how innocent we were.  We were still playing with Barbies. I remember my friends coming to visit me.  I had a morphine. I remember I had a morphine button where I could hit a button for morphine. It was fantastic. More, more, more, more. Do you remember the show? Did you guys get the show in Canada, Mr. Belvedere? Maybe, but I don't remember it.  Anyways, an 80 show. I mean, maybe, but I don't remember watching it. We had Mr. Dress Up. We had Mr., well, Mr. Roger's Neighborhood. Yep. Mr. Belvedere. It was like an evening show for families, but we would, my mom and I would have watched reruns of it in the hospital room and I would just hit that morphine button. It was like, more, more, more. I was fantastic. I don't think I want to leave the hospital actually at one point. I was like, do I really have to go? Like, do we go really? I had people love, like, all these balloons for me because I was a kid, right? Neighborhood, bringing flowers, they bring balloons. I feel like, you're just like, I want my button. I just want my button. I just want my drug button. How old were you when you got home? Like, you didn't have your phone. I had a week, so after the hospital, I had a week at home before I started going back to school. And I wanted, you know, at 12, it was the end of the school year, you know, sixth grade year. I wanted to go back to school. Obviously, I missed my friends. But yeah, I had to wear umbros for the rest of school year. We had a very, very strict dress code.  That's a totally different story. But that was the only thing, like when I was 12, because we had a very strict dress code because, you know, Sarah and I are both private school kids. Oh, I get it. I get it. But I had to wear umbros. I got the excuse where I got to wear umbros and a t-shirt because I had such a big patch on my stomach. And it was only a couple weeks left to school anyway.  You think that's straight. I didn't get to do PE for the rest of the year. I had to sit and watch PE because I had my stomach hacked open. I would have been so happy about that though. I'd be like, I don't have to go to gym class. Yes. I kind of, at 12, now when I was in high school and I got sick and had to wear umbros again because I had some patches on my back from some spinal tap and stuff, that I did not like. Because in high school, you don't want to look different. You want to blend in.  And then you walk in because then you feel like all special because you don't have to wear the dress code. My class was such a small class because yeah, private schools, small schools, they have these writing assignments when I was away, when I was being morphed up at the hospital. Some of their assignments for the kid, for my classmates were these writing assignments that you would do at 12 where you would have to write about something. So many kids wrote about me getting my appendix out. I think I still have them at home somewhere. I think my mom's saving it.  Like I remember, I have a memory. I won't say the name. I have a memory of a couple of my little girlfriends from since grade C. They were their moms and like their mom, you know, were little. They were like, I have bigger eyes being like, because I think I was probably on the side hitting the morphine button. Sorry. They're like, I told them all the story. Don't lie. Don't lie. You're going to get into surgery. And they should get the morphine button. Morphine, well, it's so funny because one of my really good friends, we're still really good friends, she had had a lot of surgeries on her arm as a child because something happened to her as a kid that had to go in and work on her arm. And after I got my appendix out, I was over at her house playing because she had had a lot of surgeries too. So we were like comparing notes. And she asked me, she goes, did they give you the morphine button? I was like, yeah, I got to hit the button. She was like, isn't it great? 12 year old druggies. What? I didn't have the morphine button. I mean, I did a gallbladder surgery like 12 years ago, but I never had the morphine button. You never had, maybe they felt, maybe they're a little stricter now with the morphine because of the opioid problem, but in the, well, how old are we, 83, 95? So it was like 1995 when we had the surgery. They were like, give her a heroin, it's fine.  We were truly the last great generation where they were like, whatever. I had my tonsils removed when I was just a little girl. I wasn't, I don't think I was 12. I think it was maybe a bit younger, but I never had the morphine button. Maybe it just felt sorry for me because maybe they thought I was actually dying. Push the button and just be happy. I don't know like- I don't know if these days be peaceful.  So I was like, looking back at that now, my nephew is, will be 11 in October. So he's getting close to that age. And I can't imagine how terrifying that would be for a parent to see your child that sick into not, you know, the stomach virus, yeah, they're gonna throw up for a while, but they're gonna start to get better. I was getting worse. I was like getting worse. And so I think my parents must have been panicked. I, looking back, I just remember thinking that button's really fun, but you know, like, and so they might've just been trying to make me feel better and the fact that they, they're probably, I mean, I don't know for any doctors watching, there's probably guilt with doctors when they don't act fast enough with the patient, which I understand that they didn't know it was wrong.  They are gonna, surgery is always gonna be the last step to figuring this out. And so if they had known right away that it was in my appendix, I would have had it, I would have been in operation that first day to remove it. So I don't fault them at all, but that might've been why they were so quick to give me that much drugs. It might've been the level of pain they thought I was in because they had waited. It might've been because of where my appendix had been smushed up in my colon. I don't know. Who knows, maybe. Like, and then they had to like burst the, oh God. They didn't give me any, listen, when they popped that sucker, they didn't give me any type of numbing. No lidocaine, nothing. They were just like, pop. I was like, where is my morphine now, bitches? Like, like. We're fine, I want my bun.  Yeah, we're real people. Like, we have our own things, we have our own. I mean, but I will always be grateful for Dr. Holcomb because he was literally the doctor that was like, no, something's wrong here.  So, and I don't blame them. I mean, of course they thought it was Crohn's disease because it was my colon. That was another thing that they suspected which would have sucked. I would have still been dealing with it to this day but they could have worked, you know. So thank God it was just, and like I said, appendicitis is today from what I understand from friends who have had their appendixes out as adults. It's very quick. It's like an outpatient. The scar is tiny. You can't even see the scar of how they do it. Back in the days, they had to saw us open. Oh, God, it was awful. Like with my gallbladder surgery, it was like the laparoscopic. Like it was like a few small things. I mean, I was in hospital for the weekend but that's because I had it on a Friday or something. So I was like in there for the weekend and it was bad, but I was fine. Thank God. They didn't give you the morphine at all? They probably gave me something. I know they gave me morphine, I think beforehand. No, they gave me, no, no, no, that's not true. They put me on an IVV beforehand because they said like, don't drink anything. I'm like, don't have any like water or anything to prep for surgery. So I had that. I think they gave me something. I don't remember that was, they gave me something. I went to the ER a few times for it before I had the surgery. So I don't remember it's all blur. One time they did give me, I think they gave me morphine one time and it didn't really do too much because the pain was just so intense. And they sent me home like, here, here's a prescription for like whatever it was. So we're off like looking really good. There's one tablet of painkiller. That's pretty much what they did. They gave me a prescription. So we're off at like 2 a.m. or 12 o'clock whatever it was. Like trying to find like one of the only open pharmacy at that point in time. It was like on the other side of town or whatever it was. It was like a good drive away.  Go home.  Next time, Sarah, just tell them it hurts on your right side. Just lie. Then they'll give you the morphine. I lied. More of the story, kids, if you're lying, get the morphine. We're not condoning anything. We're not condoning anything. Not condoning any behavior. I am. Promoting any behavior.  My mother started graying in her 20s which, thank God, that has not happened to me. I thought I was graying. My hairdress was like, no, that's your blotch. I was like, oh, awesome. But my mom, because my dad's so much taller than my mom. My dad said, my mom tells a story about when I was in the hospital at that point. I think this was before operation. My mother basically lived in the hospital with me and my father would come and go with my sister. And my dad said, they were looking over at my body, talking to a doctor. And all of a sudden my dad goes, oh my God, Alice. And she was like, why her roots have like grown? Because she hadn't been to the hair-treat circuit. Because he's so much taller than her. He could see her because she just was with me. She was with her kid and she didn't leave the hospital. You know, when you're that young, the parents stay with you in the hospital. She slept right on that little, we just watched Mr. Velveteer. I think I was enjoying it way more because I actually had the bed and had the morphine. She just had the couch and the TV. You had the better day on that case. I had a better day. You know, the funny thing is, is people talk about med beds about the fact that we'll have the option of them taking away our scars. And I don't want my scars taken away. I don't want them taken away. I want to keep my scars. It's kind of part of who, it's sort of like your journey though. It's almost like a reminder of experiences that you've had. I think I would want some of the scars taken away, but some of them not. Because again, it's almost like a reminder I survived this. I experienced this. I survived and it helped shape me to who I am. I mean, I can look back on that time with my appendicitis, even though I'm sure my parents were scared shitless because they didn't know what was happening. But I think it's hysterical.  The fact that my mother didn't believe me at first, then I ended up ruining like every, I mean, my mother was very Southern or is, was, she's still alive, is very Southern. My mother's very Southern and she's very house proud. So like growing up, you know, the Southern Living magazine stuff. So for the fact that I was literally ruining every cheat that my mother had in that house. What is the sense of humor? God has a sense of humor. And there's definitely a, it's a horrible story, but it's a funny story.   This is why you don't lie. Like I was like really punishing. I mean, I remember feeling that panic. Like, oh my God, I've just done something wrong because something happened because I lied. And no, it didn't actually did it, it saved my life. So maybe that was an intuitive nod of God, like just tell them the right side because they need to go get it and take this out.  The button is, we call it the button, the button. The button. The button. You know, we're 12 at the time, you know? So there's a lot of humor there. And I like my scar, I like having that scar there because he's, and I'm very grateful. That's one thing I am, you know, even though we come down hard on Western medicine a lot, I do a lot. It's stuff like emergency surgeries that are really important. Saved our lives. Yeah, saves our lives. The gallbladder, the appendix, had spinal surgery on us later on in high school. I've had a ear surgery, which side of camera was, oh right here, right here.  And so like a few of the holes got taken out because they, they cut, you can kind of see this scar a little bit right there. They cut a chunk of my ear off because it was the pre-cancer and then they sewed it back together. And so I had, so they got rid of some of the piercings. It was like, oh well, get stuck in again. And when they did the plastic surgeon, so they cut it out and they had to go to plastic surgeon. So plastic surgery isn't just for vanity stuff. It's, you know, it's reconstruction from other surgeries. When the plastic surgeon was sewing my ear back together, I was only under localized anesthesia, which is not, I think localized is the one where you're not totally out. You're just numb. So I heard his full conversation. He was talking to the nurse who was helping him. He was telling, telling the nurse about his sex life. I was like 16 at the time. I don't know if he understood that I was conscious of what I just couldn't feel. I was numbed out. Yeah. He was telling the nurse all about like this woman he was dating and stuff. And I was 16. I don't even know if I kissed the boy yet at this point. And I was like learning a lot. Oh my God. Why? I don't know what to say. I don't even remember that doctor's name. I just remember the full conversation. I remember everything. And I think I was taking notes. I don't even know what do I say in regards to that. That it is so random and inappropriate. And you've got a young teenager on your table and they're not fully knocked out. Just be careful what you talk about. Because that teenager hears what you're saying. So yeah, even though we're into spirituality, we're still very much normal people. We still have our own experiences. One of the things I remember was working on my ear. So he was literally over my ear. Like I could literally, like his mouth was right there. I was working on my ear for a long time. I'm really good. I can't even remember that doctor's name. It was such a fast procedure.  Will you sew my ear back together? Because I would hate to be walking around with a chunk out of my ear. But yeah, I learned a lot about sex that day. Only you, Bryce. Only you. Of course. That was another God wink. That was another LOL from God. And you didn't even lie that time. You didn't even lie. I think my mom's watching this. Surprise, mom. I don't even think I told my parents about it. Oh my gosh. I think I just reeled and I was like, OK, we're done. I'm out of here. Let's go home. Let's go home now. Where's my sister? Let's go home. Let's go watch. Let's go watch Save by the Bell. Oh, that's crazy. Excuse me. Oh. I didn't mean to take up this show. I meant for you to tell your story, Sarah. Oh, it's all sharing. I mean, it's all sharing. But that's part of life, though, isn't it? It's just relating to part of why I think why we're here. It's good to really share stories, find humor and things. And in that way relating by sharing stories, we learn more about ourselves, too. And Sarah and I are the exact same. We're both 1983 babies. So we definitely have very, very similar childhood experiences with cultural, you know, we're both private school kids. Same year we were born. So we have a lot in common. We both can relate to the differences in our childhood compared to child kids today. Kids today. Yep. OK, so different. So different from how we were raised. I mean, internet even wasn't a thing. I remember, like, even when I was in high school, so I was born in August, I'm only with a hair. And I remember I was in high school. What year was it? It was like the late 90s, like mid to late 90s. Like we started high school in August, like September of 97. So it was like somewhere around there. I remember I had to get parental consent to go on the internet. It was that new that we had to have. Yeah, we had to like, and it was like a whole thing that during the school, during the class, like we think it was travel and tourism or geography class or something. We had to go into the internet lab and set up the computer to do students per computer. And we had to have, like, parental consent, I think, at one point. I remember when I would go online. Yeah, entered high school. We had to do a whole class again. I swear, like, elementary school, middle school, and high school, we had to do a whole thing on the Dewey decimal system. Listen. Yeah. One day when I'm old and I have Alzheimer's, the one thing I'll probably remember how to do is to do a decimal system because that thing was drilled into us and it's useless now. But I remember they did have computers in the library. But we weren't allowed to use them as any type of resource tool for anything. Even when I went to university, they didn't trust the internet. I don't know how to do a bibliography for the internet. I only know how to do a bibliography for frigate books. How does one do a bibliography for the internet? I find that very confusing. I never like doing them. I can never figure out how to do bibliography. I remember from school, but I just, yeah, I would be terrified. Kids today, I'd be like, I don't know, man. I tell my friends, kids, and my nephew, Anise, is that when we were kids, we had to earn our knowledge. We had to go on a scavenger hunt for our knowledge. You had to literally go hunt it down. In the library. Yep. Finding the book. And then the book was checked out and you had to wait. And so it's very different, very different. But I'm just so glad that we, Sarah, I say we're the last great generation. And I was telling you before we started filming, if you were born between 1980 and 1984, we're the only generation that has, it's just such a small. We're not generation X, nor are we millennials. We're called zennials. 1980 to 1984, because we're too feral to be millennials. But we're not, we're more savvy than generation X when it comes to technology. Although that's debatable. My boyfriend, his generation X, is way more savvy at technology than I am. But I feel like that 1980, 1984, we were the last generation of the latchkey kids, of the free range, feral children. And I think we did take a lot more responsibility on, because we had to. We were not coddled to the extent. There were no safe spaces. I agree. I agree. We just, we learned how to be people. We did. We didn't have the internet. Social media wasn't a thing. Cell phones were just starting when I was in high school. People were just trying to get high. Cell phones in high school. So we didn't have that technology. Like you said, we had to rely more on ourselves. We had to rely more on like, OK, I need to find the book in the library. How do I find that? Thanks for yourself. Don't rely on other people, because you need to find it for yourself. So it really created more of a sense of independence in that way, and maybe more of an independent thinking or an independence of thought. Does that make sense? Because we couldn't just go online and look something up. You had to really sit and contemplate, at least for me anyway. I did really sit and contemplate, and really look and see it differently. It wasn't just like, OK, I'll find it here. No, no, you had to sit and figure it out for yourself. Have a critical thinking that I'm not aware of. Intricacies of the school system today, but we were talking about critical thinking. Like, OK, if this is how it is, then no, this is what it is. Then how do you figure that out? Like, think, actually, think for yourself. Yeah, we also had to debate. We had to learn to debate. When I was a kid, like, we were both sides, and we were a side to side. So even if you didn't agree with that side, you had to learn how to find points to prove the point of that side, which was so helpful. And I think that's what's missing today, is we're not listening to each other. We're not hearing. What the other side is saying. And so I agree. I think we literally, I mean, this was before now. I mean, even in the United States, which is crazy to think of books being banned in the United States, because I think out of all the countries, the United States prides itself on being no censorship. But, you know, we, when I was in high school, we had to study, like, Huckleberry fan and all these books that in some schools, they've now banned. But there's, we had to talk about these topics and these things and understand them. And, you know, it's, yeah, we did have these, we weren't connected to our parents constantly because we didn't have cell phones, you know? And so you played outside with your friends and I remember my sister and I were fighting once. And my sister and I didn't fight much at all growing up. And we really didn't. But one time we were fighting and my mother came in the room and she was like, girls, look at each other. You're it. That's all the family you have is each other. That's it. And so my mother would say like, I'm not, I'm not gonna be, I'm not gonna, my mother would be like, I'm not coming in and getting involved in this. You girls have to figure it out unless somebody's truly hurt or dying.  Just a lot. No, no, no, we're not condoning any untoward behavior. I saw, I saw a little YouTube short meme that I thought was hysterical.  Like, that's a... It was a different mentality back then. My dad broke his leg when he was a kid skiing and his dad, my grandfather, made him get up and like walk. Like hobble home. Okay, that's extremely extreme for God. Well, I guess we had it a bit easier, but still, I mean, it did create an independent of thought. Like, it created a different way of thinking. Like, you just like thought more for yourself, I think. And I think we all, I can actually... Don't even lie so much on others, in a way. There's no comedy anymore.   And that's sad because being human is quite funny, you know? It's quite comical to be in these bodies. And next life, I'm coming back as a dog.  Well, my little dog, my breeze, she's here right now that I hear like rustling noises. She's looking for... Oh, she just kind of... I love her too, darling. She's like all wiggly. Because she knows like I'm talking, so she comes over and that's why my screen is wiggling. Sorry. I know, I don't... There's like a paper container or something here and she's after it. Oh, you can't have that baby. I don't know that. I'm making up. So she's after me. So listen, listen. Yeah, I get it with dogs, but I gotta hop off soon. So I speak of dogs. I have to take my dog out because he needs to go poop. Aw. So I'm gonna take three of soon too. As an adult, I'm walking around. Big dogs like Bre and Ravi, they make man poops and we have to pick them up. Yeah, we do. All right, you guys. So once again, I'm actually gonna have you put in the comment section if you wanna be entered in for the two people that are gonna get a reading with Sarah. I want you to write, Sarah is awesome in the comment section and you will go, your name will go in for the drawing. Is there anything you wanna close off with Sarah before we leave today? Oh, just thank you so much for having me on. I really appreciate it and thank you everyone. I think thanks to everyone for their patience and it was just June, May was just insane and I just, for myself, I couldn't, literally couldn't even speak. So thank you for watching. Thank you for your interest and I hope that you find your teachings helpful. And I'll be sharing her, when she loads up her June reading that she just did herself. I'll put that on my community tab guys on Monday. So be looking out for that. And yeah, you guys, share any of, also on top of saying Sarah is awesome in the comment section, I wanna hear some of your funny childhood stories. Wow. Tell me about a time you lied to your parents and what happened? Did you get more people? And I really quick comment too, I think it's a really important moment. I mentioned this a second minute ago too, but it's important I think. So like it's a task to humor, but even though we're into spirituality, I think like sometimes people think, oh, like your life is perfect and it's all calm and it's all this. We're still real people. We've had our experiences. We've had our medical, no thanks. We're still real people. And I think this conversation, just a highlight in style like, oh yeah, I like the between the button and the hobbling and I broke my right foot twice and all those other stuff. And you just, it's good I think to remember that we're still individuals, we're still people. And it doesn't make us better or worse, we're very grounded. It's probably a while of micro dosing to this day. That was probably where that started. That could be. So we're all starting with that fancy button. So yes guys, I would love to hear your stories too guys. If there are any funny childhood stories you have or a time you lied to your parents, what were the consequences of that lie? If you want to share it publicly. No I share it publicly. Yeah, don't feel pressured, only if you want to. So anyway guys, we love you and I will also be putting Sarah's links down in the description box below as well guys. So if you're not subscribed to Sarah, go ahead and get subscribed so you can keep up with what she's doing with her awesome talent of tea leaf reading. And we will talk to you guys soon. Bye everybody. Bye.