Good evening.  Our close Smith, Joe stop and Carl pardon on my left. Also Vince Conti a town administrator and Diane is about town treasurer. Editions or changes the agenda. One edition. And that is the road closure discussion. I'm going to go to the highway super. Okay. And anything else that's it. Public comment hearing none. See the runners club permit. We have a special event permit application from the central remote runners. I'm going to go back to the public comment hearing. I'm going to go back to the public comment hearing. So I made the motion that we approve the permit application as presented. And the event is on April 16th 2022 and they estimate attendance of 100. And the location will be at the Montclyer high school. And the event will be from 845 a.m. to 1015 a.m. That was my impression from reading it. And they also have the liability insurance as well. And it is a 10 miler. I'm looking to see. Brad, whether they did indicate they'd be putting up signs. I didn't see any signage. Is on the application. Do you know Vince had they indicated that they'll be putting up signs. They have volunteers along the 10 miles. On the roll usually put up signs a day or two before. So everybody has a clue. You move for the run. You hear a motion on this. I make a motion to approve the special event permit application for the central remote runners for the event of April 16, 2022. Second. Second. Any further discussion. So you said that they have in the past, but signs. Well, there was one group that did I think. Have a hard time keeping them all. Last year was this group and they did have some signage. Okay. Last year. It's a. Same group. Same guy. Yeah. Well, I'll give a call and ask him to put up some signs. Because they're running both directions. Wow. They would anyway, but both sides of the road. Yeah. Well, yeah, but he said that. That's what the volunteer force to keep on the. On one side of the road. Yeah. Okay. No other discussion. All those in favor. Aye. Aye. Those opposed motion carries. And. Hi, everyone. I'm also here with my coworker Eva Zera, who's going to go ahead and introduce our coalition. And start us off. If that's all right. Sure. Hi everyone. We have. We're really excited to be here tonight. We just want to tell you a little bit about who we are. And then we're going to get into some upcoming, an upcoming event that we have. So my name is Eva Zaret. I'm a public health specialist at central Vermont medical center. And the project coordinator for. The central Vermont prevention coalition, which is an interdisciplinary collaboration. Professional organizations and agencies across central Vermont. And the state that work together in the fields of substance use. And so we're going to talk a little bit about. Prevention harm reduction and disease prevention. Treatment recovery. And some other areas we have partners who are involved from law enforcement and youth services and housing. So a wide variety of partners at the table who all touch or are touched by substance use in some way. And then the hospital. Serves as the foundational backbone member of the coalition. And the organization. For a substance use disorder or a concern that they have. And to prevent the initiation of substance use. And the participation of people and families. Who have experienced with the harms of substance use are vital to our organization. We were founded in 2017. And we've been working together for the last month. For many years. And quite a few really interesting and unique collaborations and projects have come out of this group that have actually been adopted statewide. So we're often sort of the incubator for ideas. That get picked up elsewhere. So I'd like to turn it over to Olivia to let you know about an important event that we have coming up. It's been a long, long time. It's been a long, long time. It's been a long, long time. And the coalition has been these drug and alcohol community forums that we've done throughout Washington County. And we've organized these forums based on supervisor union. And we actually have one upcoming on Tuesday, April 5th from six to seven 30 for the Washington County supervisor union. So including your town. And we are hoping to make this event hybrid, hybrid, hybrid, hybrid, hybrid, hybrid, hybrid. That I'm happy to like pass along. And for now, though, it is going to be on zoom. And we wanted to just be here tonight to let you guys all know about this event. We welcome you all to please attend and. Wanted to be here to ask or answer any questions that you might have. That you want us to address in these forums. Or any insight on how to promote them. I have a quick question. Have you already contacted the school board and are you working with them? To for this presentation. Yes. Great question. We did already actually meet the school board and our information is going to be put out in the upcoming newsletter. For this forum. And they've been really helpful. But yeah. What time is the event on the fifth of April? What time is the event on the fifth of April? Yeah. And we, we've held these for a couple of other supervisory union areas, as Olivia just said. And they've been really. A good opportunity for community members to come together. To start a conversation, to ask questions of a panel of experts that we bring. And to also organize around ideas that they have. And so we were able to get them connected with technical assistance and funding to set up a new after school program. Montpelier has really highlighted the need for like a parent education. So we're developing a series to respond to that need. So we organize it by supervisory union because we have data from the youth risk behavior survey. That is specific to your schools. And so we can look at that and say, this is what students.  This is where they're doing well. So we can tailor suggestions that we have. Based on that data. And we do lean heavily in the youth prevention sort of. Realm at these forums, but they're not exclusively youth prevention. Focused. And so folks are welcome to come and ask questions about treatment for adults or recovery services that are available. We can let people know that, for example, you can come in to the emergency department 24 seven anytime and receive, start receiving treatment at that moment and get connected to services. The next day. So. If there are no other questions. We appreciate your time. We hope to see you there. And Olivia will be in touch with if we do develop. And a hybrid. Option. And if you have suggestions on an in person location, that would be most welcome. Okay. Thank you. Any questions? Okay. Thank you both very much. Thank you so much. Yep. Conservation Commission sign. Funding approval. Yes. We have one deal in the conservation commission. To discuss that with the board. I'm here to request the purchase of eight sides. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. For the town force. The signs are going to be posted mostly on the town force, which is south of the cell tower. And part of the need is because we have a new trail going through there and we want to prevent. Motorized vehicles. Can you hear me? Yeah. Yes. So we're looking at eight signs. They would be posted at the south end of the vast trail on the. Town force to north end. There would be one coming. In off of the class four road. Another one at the landing. And then another one. Just to keep the vehicles from coming in to. The conservation land. And we've got a place that we've looked at. It's called campground signs. It's online. They make stock signs. They're under $25 each. And the total cost should be. 186 98 for each side. And that includes the tax. Yes. Are there any questions? We don't, we don't deal with that company either. And how are they? Are you going to be paying that out front? Are you expecting the town to kind of check? How are we expecting it to be paid? We could pay it and then we're reimbursed. I'm not sure how the town does it. Right. Because if it's a company, like let's say it's a company that we deal with. Then you could just charge it. And then we would pay for it. But like I say, just, I've never heard of this particular company. We don't have an account with them. So I just don't know exactly how long go about it. But I guess it would be. Up to the board if you want them to issue a check. Do you have a company that you deal with for making signs? Yes. Always on time signs. Okay. And have we, have we checked on them at all? I'm assuming those are probably aluminum signs. Reflective. Worksafe. Worksafe. Okay. Worksafe. Those kind of signs. Yeah. He gets a design. Yeah. I'm assuming all these companies are going to be competitive. I guess the reason that we were looking at this other company was that they make stock signs, which are less expensive as opposed to having a custom made sign. Yeah. We, we can look at always on time because we have used them before and see what the cost is for making up. Custom signs. Or if they have stock signs available. Worksafe is the one we deal with the most. So I have a, just a quick question. Are any of these eight signs? The placement of these signs isn't going to conflict with any current policy or trail use change in any way. Is it? No, it's not. It's not. It's not a policy or trail use change in any way. Is it? No, it's actually stating what's in our management plan. Thank you. It's just letting people know that. Okay. What's their account balance. What's there? Conservation commission. Off the top of my head. I don't know, but it is in thousands. So if we're talking, you know, to less than $200, they have more than enough. Okay. Any other discussion on this? Okay. We have decided which way they're going to go. Well, Wendy said that they were the cheapest. It's less expensive because it's a stock sign. It's already made instead of a custom sign. Yeah. Where are these people out of. Um, I don't know. I'd have to, I'd have to check. I mean, we could try to find a Vermont dealer that does stock signs also, if you would prefer to do it that way. No, you've already done the research. So. Right. To me right now is just, do you want us to, um, if you have a total price with all the dollars and who I would send a check to. Then on April 5th, our next meeting or their next meeting. I could cut a check and then send it to them. Or if you're going to go ahead and buy them.  So whichever way you want to go on that route. Be quicker. If you buy it.  We can do that. We'd like to get the signs up. Okay. You know, soon so that we don't have ATVs going across that part of the property. So I can, um, make the purchase and then just send you the receipt. Yep. Okay. That'd be great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I have a motion to. Have the conservation commission purchase the signs for. Preventing misuse of the town forest land. For under $250. So move. Second. I don't want to repeat that. Well said. Any further discussion on this. Okay. If not those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. And those opposed. Motion carries. Thank you very much. Just be sure you get Diane to receive. Okay. I will do that. Thank you. Yeah. Appreciate you. Assistant town. Treasure position discussion. Okay. What do you want to start? You go. You should have all received. Okay. There's two things, right? There's the. Description. And then there's the job hosting as well. Yeah. For your comments and discussion. Um, Basically, it's a. I'll be faceted position. Right. And maybe I don't know if you want to speak to from Diane's perspective. Well, I guess my perspective is right now, there's nobody to back me up on payroll or cables or anything. So if something happens to me, we'd be in a world of trouble. Um, obviously to me, my job is like a job and a half right now, because I've been given, given some of the other. However, um, I know that this can use health at times. And I know that I want some of the backup and I want to actually be able to give pieces of my job to this person to train them. Cause eventually in, you know, not too far future. I'll be retiring. So what, you know, something to be trained. Um, that's what I'm looking for, but also like I say, the health benefits. And then we also have a project, which we call use doc star for, and that is like, we're trying to put all of our records into one place so that we can retrieve them anytime in the future. And right now I just don't have time to work with that. I do very little with that. And it's an expensive program and it could do a lot for us. And it would be very, very helpful to have somebody.  Entering all of these documents into the system that anyone can retrieve, including yourselves. So when you say, if you have like a. Job and a half. You're falling behind. Yeah. Currently. I am falling behind. Absolutely. I understand. Um, so you're, you're going with a full-time position. Did you take and talk to any of the universities around? I've reached out, but I haven't got any, any feedback from any of them yet. I reached out to Norwich and, um, what used to be BTC, not BTC, Vermont college. That's part of Norwich now part of Norwich. And they're going to, they're going to get back to me this week with. Their thoughts on what may or may not be available through them as well. Um, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.  They do offer accounting programs. I'm certain. But yeah, that might be a place to reach out. I need to reach out to them. Okay. Just try to hire local. Can I ask a quick question? I may be just catching up to the issue, but how has there been discussion about. Um, what's the consensus for the salary? I don't think we have a consensus. Yeah. It's like we're meeting. So has the decision already been made to make the hire? Or. Is that okay? No, this is what we're here for tonight. I didn't, I didn't want to, uh, rehab issues that have already been decided. I didn't happen to. Yeah. See. Very good question. Um, And then, uh, I don't think we have a consensus because we haven't really. Um, Talked a lot about it. We initially put some money in the budget. Probably not enough to be quite frank. I think we put 40,000 in. Yeah. Right. But that was again, that was part of the. That's when we were thinking part time. Wasn't it? Exactly. We were thinking part time at that time. So. I think that's something that we need to. We need to decide where we want to go with. And I think it needs to be based on. You know, like anything needs to be based on experience. We hire a new grad, a young new grad, not so much, but if we hire someone with, you know, five to 10 years of experience, then it's, you're probably talking a little bit different to attract them. These days, the way that hiring is going. Definitely salary negotiable, commensurate on experience. I'm probably going to throw out a low number, right? To start with, I think, you know, 50, 55 is probably as low as we'll be able to go to get the amount that we want. Well, 55 with the bennies is. Yeah, that. That really brings it. The bennies make a big difference. That's going to put them probably a little over 70. Yeah. Total. Total cost. With your half position. And the project for the file. Does that make it 40 or not quite. They have to also help them. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, there's no shortage of work when we're talking about. So you're not looking for work when it comes to your side either. You have that work. I have. Yeah. Okay. So I mean. Are you falling behind? No, I'm trying to water. I'm okay. Okay. You know, there are some things that. That could be delegated. So Vince could spend his expertise in other areas. I could do more. Yeah. I mean, I think there are a lot of things that are seasonal. Yes. Absolutely. You know, so it all varies. I think the important, one of the important things that she brought up though, again, as we're, as we're moving forward, as we're growing, if you just walk through the offices, you're going to see. Dozens and dozens of cabinets. That all have documentation in them. They're all on paper. That. We probably don't even know what we have. Right. And it would be more than a full-time job. I mean, just for somebody for the next five years to go through that documentation, put it into Doc Star and a filing system so that it's retrievable and we could find what we, what we're looking for. It's. And that doesn't even take into account. Digitizing of land records that, that we haven't even discussed yet, but that's on the list of things for us discuss in the near future as well. But that's just the day to day documentation that we, that we don't have the drawings and things that we don't have, you know, file where you can get them readily available or even know that they may exist. So I'd like to take a step back and go from the big picture rather than the details of the position. In the last select board meeting, we discussed the town clerk and the assistant town clerk. And I think that it was understood that the assistant town clerk is a, is a mandated by law position. And I kind of did a little rough research and it seems like a lot of towns in Vermont have a town clerk and a treasurer. And the treasurer serves as the assistant town clerk and the town clerk serves as the assistant treasurer. So there is some reciprocity and there is a built in backup. And you know, going back probably 15 years. When Berlin switched from an elected treasurer to an appointed treasurer, I think we lost that connection between the town clerk and the treasurer as far as, you know, continuity of management, right? Vince is probably your direct superior right now. And so there's a bit of a detachment between the town clerk's office and the town treasurer right now. Is that anything that, that could be reconciled a little bit for, for some reciprocity in any way, or has anybody tried or has it even been discussed or thought, thought about?  I'm appointed Rosemary's elected. And so she has the right to, and the person that she has working for her works exclusively for her. Could we share that person? I mean, technically, it sounds like we could, but I don't know if we could, because I'm appointed and she's elected. I don't understand how we can make that cohesive. And I really understand what exactly what you're saying, but I just don't know how to make that happen for 10. The other problem is also is that Rosemary and Cren are both very busy. If Diane is out or something, it happens. How do you take them away from their job? And how do you get them to do this job? Then the other problem is their training. I'd much rather have an assistant treasure who is an accountant. And an assistant treasure who is good at clerical and clerk work. Not that I'm saying that it can't be done, but. And then the other problem is, of course, in the future years, Diane's going to retire and then. I'm sure Rosemary is too. So it's going to come down to where do we have the, you know, you want to have a well of. We need a succession plan on a transition plan for both those positions. And I don't see coming up. And the other in the last problem is, is that as we were just discussing that this office is no longer. Like. East Walden, you know, it, we've outgrown the, you've outgrown it. I'm not saying we're quite to Montpelier and Berry standards, but we kind of outgrown that part where you can have a few. Hired people in the office do everything. It's just, it just can't be done anymore. Not that I can see. I'm just wondering, you know, do we have the physical space in our current town for another, for another person? I'm glad you asked that question because that's on the. I'm an upcoming. Select board meeting agenda to discuss. There are, there are some options there. We can create some space. And I'll just give me a quick example. For example, there's, there's. The Lister's office there one day a week. We can get a job trailer. Look it up, give them all the amenities. We can get a job trailer for another person. So that, that, that's one quick solution. That's not, not too expensive. Your observation is correct. We're getting tight. Another officer. This one. Real cozy meetings. Public turnout. In looking at the job description, I was just going to suggest that under number three. I think that when it goes on to say act as human resource coordinator for employee benefits, I'm thinking we should add in assistant human resource coordinator for employee benefits so that it's. Effectively both of you with you being the lead, especially with the position being assistant treasurer. I know that is I tried to make it all inclusive. If you read under doing these in responsibilities. I think it's important. It's important assistant functions. They're not in charge of any of them. They, they assist her in all. I think we should just add in there. Specifically, because it almost is, it almost sounds as if despite that being there at the top as a caveat. That it could be perceived as that. Person being the lead. And I wouldn't want that to be misconstrued. I don't know. I don't know. Can I, can I ask a question or can I comment? While I have no doubt about the needs of needs in the town. I'm just wondering if I've wondered lately if we should be doing a needs assessment. Having somebody come in and assess the, assess what the, you know, we talked about doing a physical needs assessment. I think we should do a personnel needs assessment as well. And it's something that I, I don't know if we should be doing that. I think we should be doing that as well. We've talked about it. The planning commission that there's resources out there available. Because as you know, I'm going to be haunting you now for someone to work on the town center and economic development. And that's, so that's another position that I think we need. So I just, I'm just wondering if we want to think holistically. Before, before advertising a position about what the needs really are. And maybe one position. Maybe it's more than one position, but I don't know. I don't know. I'm thinking, I know I'm thinking out loud, but I just, I just, you know, want to, want to put a bug in your ear because that's also something that I think the planning commission is going to be coming to regularly to try to, to try to see if we can get some sort of an economic development or town center coordinator position. For the future. We talked about it a few years ago, but it didn't happen. So just, just, just an FYI. And I'm happy to look into that, the availability of resources from the, the league or the regional planning commission and doing some sort of formal assessment. If that's something that you're interested in doing or hearing about. I think, I think it is the only, the only thing I, I worry about is. Right now is the critical need really for the assistant treasurer position because of all the, all the filing and everything else that needs to get done plus some of the billing. Yeah. No, I hear you. And I totally get it. I know, I know the town's growing and, you know, the staff hasn't grown much over the years. So. Yeah. But just a thought. Okay. Well, I don't see anything wrong with, with getting an outside eye on this to give us a, a idea of what else we might need. But my only concern is right now is to get some in here and get them trained. Yeah. So I think Diane's going anywhere soon. And I would add that Diane's doing a fabulous job, but I think it's really important to have the succession planning. Oh, absolutely. And I think the time is now the need is prevalent. Yeah, no, and that's fine. But I, but I still was, you know, I just wondered if you would be interested in doing that. I understand this immediate need, but just for, to sort of assess future needs so that we can plan. You know, rather than doing it year to year, we can say, okay, maybe two years from now we need exposition. So it's sort of, there's sort of a plan out there. That kind of fits. Thank you. What we talked to one of the things that we talked about in that, I don't want to call it a retreat that we had over to comfort in meeting was right, building a some sort of succession five, 10 year plan as well. So that fits Carl. I think from my perspective, I'd be happy to, you know, work with you on that. Yeah. Thank you Carla. So now the killer question Diane is where's the money? We didn't put it in the budget. We could be going over budget. No matter what we do, I don't have any other area. That's just going over budget. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just borrowing. They fall. Well, what is what you did the year before when you increased the time click salary and then maybe assistant time full time. That was not in the budget for FY 22. It was voted on after the budget was approved and we still gave them. Yeah. So I'll throw this out as well. Okay. So I'm going to get public sentiment on, on some of the issues. This is one of the two issues that I, I put out and. I didn't get a lot of responses. Maybe a dozen. But I think there was definitely a mood that we needed to ask a lot of questions about it. So the assessment certainly makes sense to me. I'm not sure if I got a lot of the comments I got and I'm not sure if I agree or not. And I kind of am seeing more and more that there is a need. Is going from zero to 60. Or in this case, zero to 40. For the, for the full time position. So anyway, the comments seem to be like maybe easing into it might make up more sense with a part time rather than a full time. So I think that the answers were resistant to, to any. Addition to the budget. And, and I think you'll get those comments when you, when you throw it out for, for anybody's. Anybody's thoughts, but I just wanted to share that. That's what I heard from the community from about a dozen responses. Well, I mean, the matter. The problem, like I said, the problem I see is if, should anything happen? We are kind of out in the, we're out of the loop. I mean, we got nobody to take the place. Right. As far as having it part time. If we have worked for a full time person. Is it easier to hire somebody part time or easier hire somebody full time. I mean, we can try. Yeah. Well, Well, your part time does not have. What kind of benefits would a part time. Well, if they, they would still get the beamers. Okay. Or the pension because no matter what the part time person probably more than 24 hours a week, I'm thinking maybe 25. But if they're under 24 hours a week, then there would be no benefits to speak of. I think we didn't have a part time person at one point. They earned time off at a very, very low rate. In other words, it'd be like four hours a month that they could accumulate for time. But once they reach 24 hours a week, then they get onto the pension plan, but they still would not have insurance. Any other discussion. So if you put it out as a part time. You could almost answer the. Yeah. I mean, I think it goes back to the fact that we don't have the money set aside. So it's just a portion of it. I don't know. I think it goes back to what is it easier to hire a full time or part time. It's kind of hard to hire anyone right now. Anyway. It's hard to get anyone right now. Whether it's part time or full time. Yeah. I mean, my, my thoughts are right. Shoot for the moment. Right. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I'm the right candidate. We will have to dial it back to part time anyway. Because again, my concern is I think Brad hit on it in three to five years. She's going to retire. And then where are we? If we don't have someone that knows we're going to struggle for a while. And maybe you have to. Firm it out while someone's being trained to do some of the things that she does from the accounting side. I threw the five out there. I would also throw out that in a job posting, you could even list it as. Part time with the potential. Becoming full time. That's an option. Yeah. And I think in today's mentality, I call it the COVID mentality where fewer and fewer, fewer and fewer people like to work. Or want to work. And fewer and fewer people want to work 40 hours. So part time might be more attractive to, to some potential candidates. And again, I'm not necessarily advocating that I'm throwing that at their discussion since this is a vote night, right? This is a discussion night. So it makes a motion. I'm a proponent of full time. And the reason that I'm a proponent of full time is that. I think the need is there. I think it's critical. And I think that there are going to be staff that. Don't always come in. To the hours that you want them. So if you have part time, there's illness and what have you. All of a sudden you don't have very many hours in the week, whereas a full time, you know, it gives the aura of more commitment. And I just really feel that we need a full time position to back up and support you. I think that's what was discussed before in terms of what the needs are and how far you want to see that assistant help you. I don't think we would get the same level. Of what we need with a part time staff. Would take more time to train and less time to be doing the work and take you away from what you're doing during the training process. And I think it would kind of be a moot point if you did that with a part time staff number. So you haven't called it. You haven't got a whole noise or any of the other school way to get back from Norwich. Well, in the meantime, why don't you get a hold of. UVM has been counting. UVM and a few of the other schools around. And we'll take him. See what the. Kind of get a feel for from them. What the, if it's part time or full time would be the way to get a hold of it. I think it would be helpful. I think it would be a good way to get a hold of it. And I would recommend involvement in a job fair. If there are job fairs locally that are happening. If you might be able to either be there, Vince or send a representative on your behalf. But I think it would be. Helpful. You know, to look at folks that are out there. The other discussion on this. I think it would be helpful. I would like to throw out. And again, I don't know the office dynamics. But I was wondering. Especially in the near term. Looking at. Until either a part time or a full time is hired. Looking to perhaps incentivize. The assistant clerk into a little cross training. You know, we mentioned the enterprise fund. Some of the work you do is for the enterprise fund and their accounting. So like even a little bit of training. For the assistant clerk. Maybe in what you do and potentially. I'm all I'm assuming that the assistant clerk makes a lower hourly rate than, than. Accounting or a treasure would. The assistant clerk. For a small number of hours for emergency training between. Now and the time we do come up with a solution to the. To the, you know, too much work for. For one person to do right. And that might be attractive for the clerk's office to take advantage of. I don't know. I don't know the dynamic in the office. Every office is different. You know, because she works exclusively for the town clerk. Will the town clerk share her, can she, or will she, I just. Yeah, I mean, that's a, that's a, that's a quick, quick question and it might be answered. Yes or no quickly. Yeah. I'm, I don't know the dynamic and I haven't spoken to anybody about the idea. It's just an idea. And some tasks your backup support to Vince, correct? Like payroll. I'm a weak one, but yes. I remember when, you know, we were in the process of hiring you. There was some, no, I, I know that that's, you've been doing some of that and that's appreciated. Yeah. He and I do work a lot together. That's great. It really makes a difference. I just can't do this. So we step seven. That's excellent. So I think Vince, if you can find out. For next meeting. Yep. The power tie out the availability of people for power time compared to full time. Yeah. So I think we're going to have an idea of what we're looking at. I'll talk to the universities. I'll look for some job fairs. See if I can. If there's any between now and then as well, but I can at least chat with people on. And I'll even talk to some. Hiring agencies and see what their thoughts are in the hiring environment right now and what they're seeing. The trend may be new. Okay. Anything else on this. So just, just as CVRPC and the league are good, good resources, even for salary information. Then. Yeah. Thank you, Carla. And what other towns are experiencing in terms of hiring and all that. So I would check with them. Yeah, I will. Thank you. Any other discussion on this. If not, we'll move on to office building and garage. Security system. Okay. There's about what four pages. I felt like, I think I snuck another one in. So again, this is, this is from Round Hill. I did reach out to. Two other agencies and they were either too busy. Or didn't get back to me. There's actually three other agencies, I think. But along the short of it is these guys have already worked with us before. They've done the setup that the police currently have as well. So they're familiar with us. The good thing is. Good thing. Another good thing with these guys. As when I spoke to them. A couple of months ago when they gave us this, right. They informed me that their price was probably going to go up after the first of the year because the whole supply chain issue or whatnot. But I talked to them. And I'm going to say, I think that the one that I spoke to last week for this, this meeting and he was willing to hold his prices. Regardless of that at this point. If we did decide. In the next couple of weeks to move forward or not. So there's again, there's, there's different. Different things that apply here. Right. The big one, Brad, you would ask me, that's the one that I added. But I forgot to include was for the door cards. Yeah. Right. That's a, that's a big one for the key cards. For all the doors. We do have the possibility. If we want to control the entrances more or reduce, right? We can reduce the car key creatures. Like, do we need one for this door and for Diane's door? Do we keep them on keys and just car key. It's killing me that word in the front door, right? For act for that kind of access. There's some flexibility there to do that for the price of this, because that's the big, that's the big hitter. That one is about 15 grand by itself. To do all the doors. Yeah. Then we have again for the town garage. But there's no cameras over there right now inside or outside. So they've got nothing. So there's, there's putting in a camera. And there's, and there is the, the recorder over there. And that's about 3958 to set up the town garage. The security. So that's four cameras outside one camera. No, I think it's two cameras outside. And one ends up correctly. Okay. Okay. Okay. Four cameras. I'm reading it off your paperwork. Yeah. Then there is the police department in the town office. That's four cameras. They're going to. Upgrade. I think two of the cameras in the police station. That. They're old and outdated. Some of their equipment is old. Basically. And the recorder. That was 67. That portion. So this is actually 13 cameras. Is this like a total on the project or something because what I'm seeing is 10 cameras outside through cameras inside. For the police department and town office. Yes. So that's the police in the town. So that's the cameras that they have now. I think there's like I said, it's a three or five that are going to be replaced. We don't have visibility on that corner of the building. By Diane's entrance. I know there's a camera there. We don't have visibility of the front entrance. So there's a camera there for that. And then the camera on this corner. Is not. Very good. That's one of the ones outside that's going to be replaced as well. Now, which one of those cameras. Is for the, is a focused on the. Exchange area. This one on this corner of the building out here. Right. And Tim sandpile. Don't forget the same. It's the same file. It's important. Yeah. I don't know what the exchange area is, but.  Yes. Nope. Exchange area is. Under the scrutiny of the camera. For people to bring their kids to another spouse. Okay. And I think clarity on that camera is important. Yeah. Yeah. We haven't had any issues lately. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know where. There's ones just for the police department as well, which is. They don't have anything on their windows over there for door contacts. The keypad. And an alarm control panel. There for them as well. That's another 29. So again, there. Some of this will be paid. Some reserve money. Yes. That's reserve. Any grant money out there. I don't know. Not grant. This is qualified for our. Throw that out there. One of them list monitoring of 365 a year. Would that be true to form on all of them or just that one in particular. That was for the town of Berlin police department next to last. For a year and a half. We're having a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of. A little bit of a cold, but a 365 yearly monitoring. How much more of the ARPA money do we have. There's a proposal. All of it. We have not allocated any of our performance. I think you have. Isn't some of the computer? Oh, sorry. Yes. We did. We did allocate. We allocated it for this. We had talked about it. With the previous board. But it was. This was never. It was. I just. board, but this was never decided on. When we did the budget, we took it out of the budget and said, if we do it, we're going to come from our line company to monitor it. So the only thing that's been allocated is about $15,000 for the computer system upgrade and another $12,000 and $15,000 for the computers themselves upgrades for the staff to go to laptops. So the $15,000 that was coming out of the budget and then pressed it out. And that's all that we've officially allocated out of ARPA funds so far. Well, I mean, if ARPA, you're sure this qualifies. Yes. So I guess the question would be, which or how much of this you feel we need? Out of curiosity, when was the last time the door was rekeyed? Rekeyed not since I've been here, but here nine years so and before that time. So I would if I had to make a guess for 15 years ago, maybe the police department, though, they have their system that's that's probably four or five years old. Yeah, they have the they have the card system already over there by these guys. It's about four or five years old, let's say. And how much would it cost to have the rekeyed? I'd have to check that's not because I mean, it should be done every couple of years at least. It should be. Well, it's the board's pleasure here. We can we neither get the security under ARPA so it's not going to be any cost of the taxpayers or not direct cost there. Make clear that catch up mode again on the discussion. But it was kind of decided that all of this stuff was needed and we wanted to go ahead and get this done. Well, I mean, as far as needed, I don't know. I mean, it's it security is always an issue. Not saying there's a lot in here to steal. But no, again, this was originally brought back on the table by the chief because he felt that there was a lack of security on site here overall. And so a lack of security on this side also means a lack of security for them because of that door as well. And some of their equipment is is also right. And and who did the assessment as far as the number of cameras that are, I guess, required or? The ground hill came in. Forget the gentleman's name. He's been here before. Again, he's worked with the police as well. He didn't walk through with the chief and with myself. We didn't walk through and he was saying, I've got a camera camera that's capable to do this in this area that will work. And we talked about price and said, you know, we don't want the gold addition, right? So that's how it was determined. Very simple. I walk around in a discussion. And each one of these pages is just a different level of. There are different areas and what he's proposing to do in that area. And I take it the one for 1544 or. That is for the door. It's kind of key system only, only. That one, that one is the one that's separate from the rest of the security system. Of all of these, are there any things, Vince, that you feel that we could live without? Sure, we're living with all of them right now. No, realize, realize that exactly. But in terms of if we're looking futuristically at making it again, it ties into the to a to a planning discussion, right? Where do we where do we see this building and its use in five to 10 years? The good part about this security equipment is because one of the questions I asked them just five years from now, if we decide to relocate the town offices to a new location, the town center, whatever the case may be, you're in my mind. Can this equipment be relocated? Yes, it can. It's just, you know, then it's just a cost of maintenance to move it and relocate it. Good to know. Thank you. So is its primary purpose for recording misdeeds or for early warning of intruders? Or is it both? Is there a monitoring system that somebody is looking at 24 seven? No, not 24 seven, right? Or when you're here, I guess is what I really mentioned. Yeah, mostly we'll have similar to what the police, police have a monitor over there for all the cameras right now. So all the external cameras would be, we'd be tied into that and they're recorded as well. So if something does happen, say for example, somebody from a tree company just signs a drive in a dump a load of mulch over behind the pile in the town garage and nobody knows where it came from. That really happened this year. We could find out who it is. All right, well now we can. Well, you have a yearly monitoring fee, I'm guessing, for windows and doors. So I guess that's being monitored. And then anything that happens, you got back up on the cameras and we'll see what happens. Exactly, that's it. So any other thoughts on this? I'm wondering if the installation quotes on each of them, if there's any room for negotiation there, just seems like in terms of the total, there's a huge cost in the installation portion of all the quotes. Not so much, of course, on the last one because it's a smaller one. And I realize we're installing a lot, but it is, I like the fact that you said that they're willing to hold their price, that's nice. I can ask them, well, if we go with them all, there's any opportunity to get a second. If we went with the whole enchiladas, is there any room for negotiation in any respect? I have to say that I just thought it'd be handy to have it so that you could take and have card readers on the door locks, but I didn't realize it was that kind of money. Yeah, I was a little surprised by that. The big cost is in the controllers. There's three of those to do all the doors. So that's over six grand by itself. Right, exactly. That's why I'm saying I could go back to him and say, look, we're going to keep keys on these doors, but that one, the main entrance, maybe we want to keep wheels, just start using that. Just keep these as emergency exits. Yeah. And just as a reminder, I have a key to that door. Just a reminder. If we rekey them, we won't. No, I realize that. Understandably so, but I figured since we were on the topic, I would just remind that I do have a key for that door. That would reduce it a little bit, but you're looking at over four grand and probably some labor. If we can go to one controller instead of three systems. Well, how many door locks can a controller? It's four. So yeah, four door controllers. Three, four door controllers. One controller does four doors. Yeah, this would be the main entrance. There's four doors there, right? I don't think you have to worry about a double door, do you? The two, you know, just do the two outer half. Well, I mean, you would do the same door that has the lock on it now. There's only one door, place has a lock. There's two doors there. This door and Diane's door, that before. So, well, you can call them up and I think it'd be a good idea to call them up and see just what the, how much that would change the key, but I'm assuming the key is entirely separate from the campus and the other security. Yes, yeah, the car key system. Yeah, that's separate, that's completely separate. Well, why don't you take and see if we can give you a quote for just the one controller for the four doors. Yeah, we'll look at that and we'll bring this up again. Well, I suppose you should have a motion on that. Here, motion to, what's the word I'm thinking of? Table to discussion. Yes, table to discussion until next meeting. So moved. For a second? Second. Now we come to any further discussion. Is any of these door, the doors or windows, alarm portion going to the townshed, the garage, any of this, the doors or windows, the alarm portion, I guess, with the doors? No, just the camera system out. Just the camera system. Oh, I would think that once Vince gives the modified quote for the rest of it, we'll give you all a couple of weeks to go over these and we will go from there. Can I, sure, if that's, I'd like to, I know we added an agenda item. I was wondering, since we didn't discuss where we were going to have it, if we could have the road closer discussion sooner or so. First off, we have a motion on the table. Oh, I thought it was done. No, all right, I'll make a new motion. All those in favor of tabling the Round Hill security quotes till next meeting, say aye. Those opposed, motion carries. Now I'd like to make a motion to, since we didn't discuss when the road closer discussion was going to happen to make it the next agenda item so our town foreman can get some sleep before he has to go fight the mud again. I second that motion. Okay, so next one on the agenda is road closure for, I'm going to guess, Crosstown. And Comstock. And Comstock. Yes, that one came up today as well, right? Talk about that as well. Comstock's, Wayne Laibert was the only house Wayne called me today. If I wanted to block it off, what all means go for it. He put the signs out, it was, it's so soft, we can't even get on it for the equipment to be delivered right now. How bad is it in the hollow there? Muddy. Yeah. Oh wait, pray by Wayne's in some house and then down in the hall is bad. We put signs up, open it, it would deter some traffic, UPS and the SD's trucks are still running on and they're just driving around the signs and going through it, everything else. So, what are you planning on doing? Just putting some pile of gravel there? We probably just put gravel over there, yeah. Do we have to haul it there anyway? Yeah, it all needs it. But that wasn't planned for that, just let it dry out some and give it, give it a little bit of time to see if it's going around, we can shape it back up. It's, I think right now in front of Wayne's son's house, the road's that much higher than his driveway. Yeah. He, everywhere's. What about Comstock? That's, I mean across now. So, across town. We would probably just do it the same as we always have. We were talking about possibly putting, we have a bunch of cement blocks that we bought for the Fisher Road project that they got back. Yeah, when they finished up over there, because last year we had the problem. They were going up with their personal tractors and moving all the gravel out of the way and then they were getting mud trucks running up through there. They were driving up over the piles and people out there doing that. So, that's a pretty rough shape. Y'all try to get on it. I was going to let those guys know we're going to go in early tomorrow. Try to, we've got a section over there between a couple of residents that is bottomless at this point right now. Try to get on it. It's supposed to get down into like 25 degrees tonight. So hopefully it'll step in up a little bit. We're going to have to get from the Riverton side to get that section. So, if we close it, we're going to be able to go out that way. So, but it's again, like the section from the Boyers Forest, the second Boyers Forest is farther out one all the way back to the other Boyer Forest. It's just between those two. That's the same way over there by Richardson's. It's all just the roads doing that, sitting there and driving on it. Is there clay underneath that? Oh, I'm not sure. We did so low. I was very intrigued. We did that project last year over on the other side of the hill because it was one of the bad spots where we used to get the clay slides. I took it down five feet, stoned it, put a 500 feet of drainage pipe in it and then put a new sub-base and matted it and everything else. It's been running water out of the pipe, so it's doing its job to get the water out from underneath the road. That road hasn't moved yet. But I can see why that road's in such poor shape. It is just nothing but clay, sand for as far down as we can hit ledge. I mean, one side of the road, we only went about a foot. And we hit ledge. The other side, I got down five feet, so we... But there's no sub-base to that road and I think that's a lot of the problems. But I'm very pleased that the project that we did, it's done what I hoped it would do. That road hasn't heaved, slid, nothing. It's dry right now. So I don't know if we can keep coming up with a little bit of money every once in a while and do some of the problems in spots. Well, okay. Have a motion on closing Crosstown in Chandler, not Chandler, calm stop. How is Chandler anyway? We're off, but you're all right. It's cracking, but it's over there. It's that good thing. I mean, it's all gravel. That whole side over there is gravel. That road's dry. It's just packed like an alligator right now and I'm going to dry it out. But if the weather keeps up like it has been, we can probably start creating some of the roads up a little bit, but get rid of some of the potholes. So you need a motion for something that's already been closed? It not really closed, not officially. We didn't put on a public notice. We just put the signs up as a deterrent for today. Okay.  I'm in the police department called me. I think there was a bunch of kids on the train. My pocket. My pocket. We got stuck over. Saturday, I took my launcher down over it. It's great, the only ones. So we'll get some emotion. I make a motion that we close Crosstown and calm stock based on the discussions this evening and also notifications from residents that live on Crosstown asking for such. Here a second. A second. Any further discussion? I'll just throw out that. That's the second topic that I put out on Frontport Forum and Virtually Unanimous and specifically by people that either lived on Crosstown or were directly affected by it that were in support of closing it, they understand. Also say that a CAX article talked about the deepest frost and one of the quickest thoughts that caused one of the worst mud seasons we've seen in several years. So I think it's probably the right time to do it if it maybe wasn't too bad that our Monday meeting wasn't last Monday, I guess. Any other discussion? Yeah, I think, and I understand when they were talking about, they were foreclosing it for a short period of time. Yes. So we don't have a period of time. We just gonna close it until we deemed it possible to open. Well, until it dries out. No, because I do remember, I think last year that we closed it thoroughly to try and save it. We closed it right about what would have been like once it starts, I mean, you can start seeing it where it's getting to the point where it probably should be, you know what I mean. It all comes different types of the year. You know what I mean? You understand that part. But then like some of it doesn't thaw out as like, this year just like bottom dropped out everywhere. Last year, it was slow, slow going. So it took a while. Some of it thaws out. Some of it doesn't. Again, like I said, the biggest problem is over there on Richardson's flat. That seems to hold out the longest and it's right out the wide open. And it just, because we opened it up last year and we ended up hauling over there for three, four days. How long were we closed last year? Over four weeks. Yes. Roughly, yeah. Yeah, it was almost five weeks, I remember. Well, there was, I guess there was at least one comment depending on where you closed the road where some residents could easily drop down over the hill, you know, a shorter distance than traveling the two and a half miles back to paper this way. And so I guess that's... So the only reason why it gets closed is where it gets closed is because there is no residence between those two sections. It's just the hill and it's, there's three houses on the bottom below where we close it. And we close it at the upper side of the hill because there's no houses in between. I think the biggest confusion on that would have been like if we close it over by Howard Cemetery, so everybody goes out, that's kind of halfway. Everybody goes out one way. Think you'd end up with like a very dynamic once you ever had to go over there and then get the address of 24 or something that's on the other side of the closure. Right. Who's gonna go, they're gonna have to go all the way around or north as a man type deal. If we close it off where it is, it's... A little cleaner. Well, it's kind of a dividing area who covers one area also as well as some of that. I'm not, I mean, that's where it's always been closed. It's probably at least 10 years going now, I think of at least a month or close to closure every year. So I'm assuming that's some of the reason why they picked up why they close it where it is, it's additional residents and... And delivery trucks, based on the closure, delivery trucks say UPS, FedEx, et cetera. They would not be traveling the road, people would go and pick up their packages. How is that been handled? I don't believe we could stop them, same as a fuel delivery rig. Like my state statute, it's considered a necessary assessment, US Postal, I'm sure UPS, FedEx, deliveries like that is considered a necessary item, just the same as a garbage truck or a fuel delivery truck. We really don't have... You can ask a couple of women and ask them to be cold mornings, try to get in there so you don't break the road, but you can't stop them because it's a necessary set. So the positive benefit is just cutting down on the average daily traffic by cutting through traffic. That road, we've done a couple of different traffic studies on it, we did one, I think in the last spring or right next to one is, it's roughly about 1,500 cars a day. There's not many residents that live in Riverton. And I know personally, just from grading that road, there's a lot of Norfield traffic that comes out of there and that's not adding to our tax base. So I think this is maybe a step ahead because I eventually discussion will get here, but do you have a cost estimate on the spot repair you did last year, the actual length of the spot you did and then how much it cost in both labor materials? Yeah, we did 130 feet and it was close to 30,000. It's just materials, not the labor. Yeah, just materials. Yeah, we had a grant for that. And that was probably a difficult section because it was on the hill, would it have been a little more difficult than maybe? Yeah, no, not really, no, let's just. Okay. A lot of material moving on sharp at the time. We did it all, we did it in four days. So all those in favor of closing the two roads? Aye. Those opposed? Motion carries. You can start hauling your blocks. Thank you to you and your crew. Yeah, well, but I'll give you guys a little update also. We're, I feel we're in pretty good shape. We really don't have that many roads that are awfully too bad. Like we finished up two worse ones that we had today. So everybody can get in without dragging. Some are still coming around softening and some, I kind of feel that are starting to come back to the good side of things. We got some that are really good. That's really good. But compared to what I've seen picking around there for pictures of other municipalities, I think we're in pretty good shape. And I think I a lot to do is with the material that we use. The granite makes wonder it dries my duck like crazy. We put that we use a lot of that inch back. Like I'm one of the rules I was on today, Chase Roman. We just go up through a roll all the moderate off the one side. Those guys will spread that gravel up through there, couple loads, roll it back in, mix it all up tomorrow and probably be right. It'll be rock hard or at least in a couple of days. Yeah. So it makes wonders. I think it might be beneficial to Carl. You mentioned front page forum. We have the posts on the Berlin site and so forth, but maybe updates to the front page forum periodically from the road crew through Vince perhaps, just to give more communication out to residents to have an idea of how things are coming along, what's the anticipated timeline, et cetera. You hate throwing anticipated timelines out right now because... No, I realize right now, not. There's a lot of freeze in temperatures and we start getting a couple inches across and getting the top and then the sun comes back out everything turns to grease again. I totally understand. I'm just thinking more communication is good even if we can't totally meet it. We can at least work toward it. If we put something out though, every couple of weeks, the status, right? I think it's beneficial. This section of the crosstown is a little rough if you're gonna travel that way or whatever. Well, hopefully it won't be traveling. At least if they do, they'll be somewhat informed. Don't bring your Prius up crosstown right now. That's not a bad idea. Anything else, Tim? I think I'm doing great now. Okay. We're going at it as best as we can. It'll be much nicer now that we have third truck back. Yeah. It's slowed down in operations a little bit. We have one truck behind. So we made the best of it between that big snowstorm and all the gravel for the last week and a half, but it'd be nice to go back to a full fleet. Okay. Thank you. See you guys later. Thank you, Tim. So good evening. You too. See you here. Splut board liaison discussion. The only thing I have to add to that one, and as I mentioned earlier before the meeting, is that we will need a board member to represent at the union mediation meeting on Wednesday the 23rd. It's gonna be a Zoom meeting starting at two o'clock in the afternoon. The previous person that we had on the board that represented is no longer on the board. The attorney wants certainly agrees that we should have a board member there. Being volunteers. I would normally volunteer because I would have interest in it, but this particular week is difficult for me as I have a deadline with my full-time job to meet for Wednesday. So it negates my ability to do it this time. So what would be the role of that? It's like we're a number. To represent the interests of the board in front of the union. I would just say being on the fire department, my relationship with the PD, I'd hate to have that to down. Is that anything you'd be interested in, Carl? No, better time to ask than now. Any interest, Carl? Not a huge interest, but if nobody else steps up, what's the duration of the meeting? Could it go until 10 p.m.? It could, this one could. I'd be happy to discuss the details with you after if you'd like, if you're interested and bring you up to speed on the... That's the huge part, I think, yeah. That was my follow-up question. There probably have been quite a few negotiations and meetings, right? Well, the only thing, Carl, is that at least it'll take and be a fresh set of eyes on it. Absolutely. I think that's a good way of putting it as well. You come with a whole new set of perspective. Just moving on to the next one on the same subject here, Carl's debating. My perspective, and Brad and I have talked a little bit about this as well, as far as board member liaison to the other committees and things. Personally, I don't really think they're necessary. I mean, that's my role is to kind of do that, I believe. And to be that liaison between you guys and the other committees and things and carry out your desires with them and steer that ship with them based on your guidance. I mean, if you guys are there, then I don't need to interface with those with the other committees and commissions and things if you're already gonna be there. That's my thought on it. And I'll be quiet, but you guys talk about what you wanna do. Well, that may be true, but I'm gonna say for the choir department, not part of the town municipality at this point. It's kind of, that's a separate animal. And the liaison has a seat and a voice at the board of directors level. And I think it's very important for that to continue. I wasn't so concerned about the fire department since it wasn't outside from the municipal government. I was just looking more at the internals. So basically to skip back to the fire department, basically you need a board member to be on your board of directors. It is written that we have a seat there for a select board member and the town representative. Yes. Okay. The representative not being a select board member. It could be two select board members. What it can be is, what it can't be is a town resident who is also a corporate member of the fire department, a separate entity. So let's get this one settled first. Who wants, who would like to be a liaison or the member on the fire department board? I seek to continue in that capacity unless there's other interests from other board members. Carol. Support your whole heart. Well, let's have a motion to point flow to the, to be the liaison to the fire department. I make a motion. I don't know if I can make that motion. Okay. I'll make the motion for flow to continue to be liaison to the Berlin fire department. Your second. Second. Can you further the discussion? Those in favor? Aye. Motion carries. Now for, I don't know how you want to take and go about it. Any thoughts on having Vince be the liaison to all the internal town committees and labor? Inclusive of Wednesday's meeting. This Wednesday's meeting as opposed to one of us being in with them, you are. So would that suffice if we went forward in this way? You'd still need a board member at Wednesday's meeting. Okay. I think that makes sense with the expectation that Vince will just give us a report from each of those or any of the communications he has with those exists, the remainder of the entities on a list, the conservation police highway planning and public works. Absolutely. In terms of reports and communications. What we try to do is bring to the chair or a member of the board into a select board meeting to give updates at what they're doing and to give the board an opportunity to directly ask questions of maybe where things are at that they're working on. And that was very beneficial on the public works board as well. There were lots of communications back and forth and Tom Badowski was also extremely helpful. And we've come into our meeting. I'll notify the board and they get back with them and work with them. Typically we bring them in for updates. Is that when the agenda allows? Or is that let's say quarterly? Every six months, things like that. I try to bring one in, one board in a month. Okay. Throughout the year. That's definitely what I do. I find that very beneficial. And again, it's open to the board if they have priority. Like the conservation commission was in here quite a lot through the vast trail development and things. So if there's a priority that we need to address, I'll leave it to the board to tell me what the priority is if they have something that's on their mind planning or DRB or whatever. Sorry, I didn't have any discussion. I was going to make a motion. Go ahead. I guess my motion would be to discontinue appointing a select board liaison to the five commissions and departments listed other than the fire department. I second that. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Motion carries. Approval license permits, vouchers and applications. I make the motion to approve payroll warrant 22 dash 18 for payroll from February 27th of this year to March 12th of said year paid on March 16th, 2022 in the amount of $49,111.80 payable warrant 22 G 18 with checks 21, 878 to 21, 899 in the amount of $207,073.12 and the February general journal entry. Your second? Second. Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries. Liquor license. Liquor licenses. We have two here. One from Chinamoon first class license and a second class license from, I believe it's Walmart. Yes. Yup, Walmart. There's been no problems with either place that take events. No. The chief says there's been no issues. Okay. I make a motion to approve both liquor licenses the first class for Chinamoon Buffet 1400 US Route 302 unit one and also the second class for Walmart stores number 2682 at the Berlin mall 282 Berlin mall road. Your second? Any further discussion? All those in favor? Aye. Motion carries. Round table, Carol. Thank you. Sure, I just, you know, putting out the front porch forum I was shocked how many emails I got. I'll tell you, I think there's a lot of people that are really looking to have their voices heard and front porch forum was a great way to do that. And I'm going to try to remember to put the upcoming issues because not only, I mean, ideas come through the comments, but you get a real deep understanding of how people feel about the issues and people that may have had a lot more experience with the issues than you may have had or I may have had myself. So it was just a great way to get concerned citizens opinions and to learn. And a lot of people wrote some legal quality arguments for their positions. So I appreciated reading each one of them. Thank you and thank you for your time and doing that in communication is always key. Whoa. I'd like to put out a thank you to Berlin residents who all banded together. There was an accident a few weeks ago near the hospital and a dog was frightened and ran away. And the town really banded together specifically tremendous amount of residents on Stewart Road.  So I was contacted by some people and one of the residents on Stewart Road said that they were more than glad to do it and that their community cared. And I think we as a town can be very proud of our community and how everyone bands together. So I wanted to definitely say thank you. I think the town of Berlin should make sure we get the rights if Disney wants to make a movie out of this. Joe. I think going back to maybe mud season and whatnot. I think the town of Berlin could really benefit from having a rehabilitation program on their back roads. Some towns do this. I think your back roads is a huge part of the infrastructure. It's an asset of which we, you know, we kind of bandage it as we go come mud season as soon as these signs come down, we're going to forget about it until this time again next year. I don't necessarily know if the project down the bottom of crosstown is a good indicator of cost per foot, but that's a start. And so if we could turn around and I realized no one wants to add in money to the budget, but if it was going into the infrastructure of this town of which the common person is driving on, I think they would really appreciate it. And that could be chase road, not crosstown. Well, the only trouble is I have a fund there for that. I understand that. But anything else? No. And I have nothing. Diane? No, I'm good. Vince? Well, I might have a couple of things. Well, for the two new members, summary of some of the issues, maybe I know I met with both of you on one and gave you a whole list, but this is all, I'll break it up over a couple of meetings if that's all right, just about some of the things that are going on in case you do get a call right here or something or whatever. All right, so some of them that right now that are going on are coming up. Lovers Lane Ridge, good news is I got a note from the Regional Planning Commission late last week. It is on the state's list to move forward this year. It's not, hasn't been approved or finalized. It's on the list. That's as far as it's gotten so far. They're going to keep being informed. If they need anything to help drive that, to make sure it becomes a priority and gets done this year or not. But the good news is it's finally on the list with the state. So they're paying attention, I think, and hopefully with their funding that they have, we'll be able to get that deck redone. So that's the status of that one right now. We've only been working on that furry since I've been here in a couple of years before that, I understand as well. So that's the good news on that one. Next week, you'll probably see from me similar to the security update. Again, our funds are available. This is for, and there are some funds set aside for a portion of the cost for the radio system for the highway crew to be updated. If Tim's on one side of town, he can't talk to the other side of town, basically, with the system that we have right now. And it's similar with the police on their radios. They have a hard time, you know, the dead zones over in Riverton and down near your place, Brad, there's a couple of dead zones. I've got a quote from, again, I've tried for like three or four difference. I've got one solid quote back from Burlington Communication Systems, who will be, who can put a repeater up on the tower for us. We don't have to pay the tower company to rent it, well, other than just a small fee for them, but they have a system set up already up there that they can integrate us in, in their equipment box up there. So it would be a reduced monthly rate to be up on that tower with a repeater and digital radios, which are the way everything's going now. So some of the radios would be updated, some wouldn't have to be for both the police. And so you're gonna see that coming anyway. I'll get that information out, obviously ahead of the meeting, you can have a look at it, give me any calls or questions that you may have on that as well, when we can talk about the needs and the void that that fills for us. Then there's always the one that's been near and dear to everybody's heart, the Newtown Center. That is progressing. You all heard that we got the vote from the five towns for the property. The lawyers have worked out an MOU, an understanding between the school board and the town that has some conditions in it. I'll provide that to you as well, so you guys can review that and see what those conditions are. So that's moving forward. There will be some other discussions based on the language on that, when that comes time to close on that as well for an agreement. But again, I'll give you more details on that as we progress as well. And hopefully answer any questions you have on that. The next big culvert that's up is Richardson Rode. Working on that with Grenier Engineering to determine where that got left off. There've been some confusion as to what's been done, what's been approved and what hasn't, permitting and those type of things as well and the type of culvert to be used. I did get their previous quote that they had given us and it was an aluminum box culvert and not a concrete one that was quoted. And I've asked them to give us a price for concrete because that'll last much longer than an aluminum one will. I've also reached out to the state and talked to Bjorn. Bjorn? Jason Bohr. Bohr. And I've got some information from him as well with regards to that that he's looking at if there's anything that we need to consider with regards to that. So that's being proposed. We touched on it earlier, the office space and reorganization of the town office too. We're constantly looking at that, talking about it and what we can do and what we should do. The question that's gonna come up on that, when it does go up on the agenda is, it's more of a five year plan or 10 year plan, whatever it might be, are we gonna relocate the office to the new town center? And if so, what are we gonna relocate over there? And in the interim, how much, if any, funds do we wanna spend on kind of rehab in this, right? There's tiles peeling up, there's walls that probably should be painted just to kind of pick it up a little bit and clean it up. I am going out to bed for a cleaning contract with the staff, then the police have a lot of issues, I would say currently. So we're gonna look at going out to bed with a very detailed bed package to see what we can do there to improve that as well. So that's coming up, that should go out. I will have that for the board to review in April, probably for the end of April, so that we can get that out as well and try to have that ready to close and have the new or the existing, if they meet the requirements for July for the new fiscal year to start that contract as well. I'll stop there, those are some of the things right now that are being worked on, the other thing.