Hey guys it's Nate A.K. the Foot Account and welcome back to the channel. The party is starting early. We've got news about Ultimate Birthday and it's starting soon on FC24 and there's already a small part of it that is added to the game already. Yes guys we're talking about that big promo foot birthday as we know that it's called and there's one staple of foot birthday from the news that we have seen that is continuing and moving forward into this year as well. Plus there's so much to talk about relating to the new spring update with gameplay changes. Market panic. I'm trying to get some coins before prices potentially drop today and some other leaks in today's video. If you're excited for foot birthday drop a thumbs up and of course subscribe if you're new. Now yesterday was a big day of content so let's go over that first with our daily showdown upgrade and we finally got the showdown that we were waiting to see. EA dropped a Barça Atleti showdown that is coming this Sunday. Joao Felix and Memphis DePie and there's a lot of opinions right now on these SBCs because this card everybody knows is going to be good in game cold dynamic solid upgrade. I think the play style pluses for me are nice technical is obviously very very OP. I think chip shot it could have been something else and it would have been nice to it but it was like Tiki taka and chip shot this card would have been absurd and it would have been insane. This card does look very good five star four star Memphis DePie as well a very nice card finesse plus and first touch plus also five star four star got that weak foot upgrade. Now here's the issue right the cards are Jews it's kind of reminding us like a kanji and Bobby Clark upgrades are massive two play style pluses absolutely massive upgrade potential with plus twos if Barça or Atleti were to win especially Barça right a 91 Felix would be crazy. This is what Felix could look like remember we did it with a kanji right as the most hyped card from the first set of showdowns if they were to win this game and then putting him into the Evo this is the card that you could end up with which absolutely looks insane. You're talking a team of the season almost end game level card with five star skills and technical plus you know how OP this guy would be very ratty but very OP that's the potential that we're working with here here's the problem the price is the problem guys Joao Felix's card now with fodder slightly going up a little bit is 800,000 coins to complete from scratch that is expensive it is nowhere near the affordable prices like a kanji and Bobby Clark under 400k these cards are doubled in price and that is the problem that's why there's a lot of debate around this right you see the card is up voted very heavily but also down voted very heavily at the same time and the SBC prices is definitely what people are the most disappointed with 800k for both these SBCs just seems to be too much you definitely feel like for Felix or to pie especially Felix is a lot of people are interested in this card they need to get a win it doesn't even need to be a draw it has to be a win and then you put it into the free Evo to get into a 92 rated card to make this worth it and with that much on the line if I was a Barca fan I would still try to do it this is the best Felix card you've got potential to be insane but for me right now I'm putting this SBC on hold it might be one of the better SBCs to do if they end up winning right but I think with it being out for the next four days I'm gonna wait at least until Friday or Saturday before it expires to decide because by then we'll see what birthday is about the card that are coming out and some more five star week four or five star skill boost to players there will be dropped as well so I'm gonna wait just now on that one that's kind of my mind mindset I don't know what you guys are thinking down below in the comments that I want to hear some feedback from you guys because everybody is all over the place with that set of SBCs now don't don't sleep on the pie either and I know that both these are craftable right now with the 83 times 10 and the exchanges and the player picks light so if you want to do it you can knock a lot of coins off the SBC it's just a lot more expensive than we were hoping after how good a kanji and Bobby Clark were but yeah don't sleep on the pie the game is at Atletico Madrid and I know Barca really good Atletico play today in Champions League who knows right this game is definitely a derby and that's why the show down for it but less than we wanted the next SBC that was dropped yesterday that not as many people are talking about and kind of for good reason for NATO Torres winter wild cards I mean when you drop an SBC that is on the market for a card that is on the market less than the SBC is that's never gonna bode well with the community on this game it's 10 squads for Fernando Torres coming in at a price of 674,000 coins before the SBC was released he was 620 K and I think now he was like 450 on the market earlier he's dropped off a lot because it is in that range where it's craftable and it is the best version of for NATO Torres right now so if you want to get this card you can do it just I mean it is craftable and that's nice and it's an SBC for his version especially this version with quick step plus and the face mask which is cool but I think that it's a little bit expensive also yesterday we had the return of our gamble Tuesday player pick this time it's a 1 of 487 plus with 284 rated squads required in one team of the week you know it's there if you want to give it a shot go for it I'm not probably touching that nor am I touching the encore icon upgrade anymore I did one more these yesterday guys and I got chef shanko base okay the two times I've done this I put the icon straight into the exchange and kept crafting in the upgrade packs because it was just bad and so I'm done doing those I'm putting my full focus on crafting the 33 times 10's maybe doing a player SBC or two but then looking forward to foot birthday so speaking of foot birthday we had our first actual piece of foot birthday content dropped yesterday I know it like you know Nate it doesn't count because it's kind of something that we get all the time but I think it technically does count right ultimate birthday champions bonus it is out for a long time 41 days and that's why they increase the number of wins that it takes to get the foot champs red item shell 35 matches won in foot champs finals to get you that and then there is a guaranteed sorry not a guarantee for birthday pack there's an ultimate pack in here in 8410 actually that's a good idea just thought of that they should do an guaranteed ultimate birthday player pack as a part of this at some point that should be an incentive and that should be an incentive like we should see that more often we have not seen that a ton this year I know that it is in the season right now but like whether it's SBC's whether it's in objectives like rewards for objectives or whatever more of the guaranteed promo card packs sprinkled in a little bit more yeah that would be nice I feel like something that that has to come out during ultimate birthday as well so that was the first technically piece of content release for ultimate birthday or foot birthday this was the other big talking point yesterday the spring update which we hinted at in yesterday's video we saw the leak in some news that was going to be coming but this made some waves guys this is there's a lot to talk about here and I wish we had time in this video today to discuss at all the good thing is we discussed this on the second YouTube channel on stream yesterday when this is first coming out we talked all about it so I will drop a link to the second channel right up here and at the end of the video drop a link for that video if you want to go learn more about that how this is going to be impacting the game play styles tuning a whole bunch of other things but that play style tuning part is massive it's really changing the game so we talked about that over there if you want to go and check that out at the end of this video and that was kind of all the content yesterday guys it was really the Felix showdown with Memphis the pie that was really taking the cake for the biggest thing happening on the game yesterday so let's talk about foot birthday right that loading screen was massive as well this is what we're here for guys ultimate birthday foot birthday we're probably still gonna call it foot birthday there's some things that we can notice from this loading screen because first of all when I look at this that this is truly beginning now I'm surprised that EA really dropped a loading screen on a Tuesday heading into Wednesday that was a very early drop for them but as I look at this I'm like okay this is like last year EA put a lot of extra effort and a lot of extra work into this loading screen right a normal loading screen is two car designs and just a background right nothing crazy this one we've got an FC like logo that's birthday cake with like grass for the spring update I'm guessing you've got the other words here you've got like a border around the outside with small text and reading into that small text I think it does confirm a couple of things five-star celebration I'm guessing that means that they're going all out it's gonna be five stars like I have hype I don't know five-star upgrades so that confirms the staple of foot birthday every single year having five star week footer five-star skills not on all the cards but almost all the cards right that's a big big part of foot birthday every single year we talked about that yesterday that is confirmed to be happening once again and then also here says 15 years of football ultimate team and again I just really hope that they do something since it's a 15-year anniversary I just hope that they look back and do some sort of throwback aspect to this promo and I hope EA go nuts guys I really really do I mean with the way they're tuning the game even with this update potentially coming out maybe this promo is set to push the power curve change the gameplay and really give us cards that we want and we actually can put into our teams that is the hope but it's gonna have to come down to big stat boost it's gonna have gonna gonna have to come down to the five-star skill move week foot upgrades as well and the packability of these players right we need some tradable packs to actually feel like we can actually pack them so that's kind of all the new news that we have about foot birthday there are no other leaks right now besides that loading screen but I think that's gonna change today guys I really think that is going to change we are gonna get news we're gonna get info and even right now like it's it's turning you could say like the hype is starting to turn the panic I wouldn't really say there's a ton of panic on the market I want to talk about the market and how this news is impacting in here in a second really it's just starting to turn things and I think later on today we're going to get more leaks that's why I'm starting to get out of a few cards I finally sold the rashford that I bought yesterday for 1.6 mil I wish I could have sold them for like 50k more and made some more profit but 1.6 to 1.7 49 I'm very happy with that I flipped this to morey from 925 to 1.01 and some of the other cards that I have here just trying to get some quick flips on and get out of I can take the profit take the cash and be liquid heading into this weekend which is I think a very very smart move now another thing to talk about for foot birthday jumping back to this point is they've already dropped some pack code here's some other interesting parts about foot birthday we already know this is the pack that everybody's talking about a full 11 prism pack this might be everybody talks about when are we gonna have a 1 million coin pack I don't know if this is it but this is one of the craziest packs that we've seen full 11 prism pack includes 11 guaranteed promo cards yes you read through all the promos their thunderstruck radioactive winter wildcards team of your honorable mentions future stars they're all 88 plus it's 11 promo cards one of them guaranteed to be 91 or higher I don't I don't know if that is going to be a million coins bro but that is a crazy pack I know it's old promo cards to which is going to definitely make a lot of people not ones to open it but what's the promo pack that they have in here this 750,000 coin pack includes four players but it is icons there's another one here I thought that gives you regular promo players now this is a heroes or icons pack as well as another heroes or icons pack this is one first half foundations it guarantees you three player items rated 87 plus and also an 81 times 11 and it's 275,000 coins so can you imagine a 11 players pack with all promo cards inside of it I'm guessing not including the icons the heroes but 88 and above and 191 plus that is going to be an expensive pack and that is going to be a crazy pack just to see it be released but that is the one that everybody's talking about again it is untradable so don't worry like oh my gosh winter wildcards are going to get destroyed on the market because they're all going to get packed it is untradable but then there's some other packs and here's to this one to me guys I'm getting excited about this one ultimate birthday energizer pack happy 15th birthday ultimate team includes 15 rare gold player items with 185 plus and one ultimate birthday player pick alone for 15 matches all items untradable I think this is free I think this is a free a birthday energizer pack and all things that are energizer pack are cheap they'd like to give out this sort of stuff so I think that might actually be a free pack that we get on Friday for the start of ultimate team I mean it's a birthday right a gift a present sort of type thing would definitely make sense and that might be it there's also an elite elite 88 plus pack which is an 81 times 100 with 188 plus player doesn't live up to the name of what you think it'd be and then 89 plus foundations pack which is an 83 20 with 189 inside of it then there's some more ultimate birthday ultimate birthday essentials ultimate birthday nano pack and guys a lot of people been saying do you think they will bring back the return of the 10 and the 30 coin packs in the store yeah I think so I hope so right again we kind of equated this promo is like the second half of the year equivalent to Black Friday in the Thunderstruck promo and the 10 and 30 coin packs this year were first seen during that time of the year so I don't know if they're gonna come back in the packs for you section because that's where we saw them most recently I think it was a month ago that this was released that's where we saw the 10 and 30 coin pack released most recently or it'll be inside of promo packs one of the two I hope that is a part of this upcoming promo for sure so that's kind of all the packs that have been added to the code of course that 11 players pack is the one that is absolutely crazy so we're gonna wait for more foot birthday news today guys I really believe there's gonna be more leaks the more information this is usually the time of the week where we start to get the leaks there's no car design that's been added here into the game yet I'm looking I'm looking I'm seeing nothing so that's a little early for that but I'm surprised that we haven't heard like anything about foot birthday at this point in terms of players that could potentially be in it you know yesterday I said that I had a hunch that maybe Hyunmin Son would be a foot birthday player this year that's no leaks that's just a guess I'm still sticking by a guess like that drop a name down in the comments of who you think could be a great player to have in foot birthday as well there are so many great names of players they're gonna be could be in this promo and I hope EA do release something crazy now let's talk more about the market because with this loading screen I looked on the market and I looked around and I was like you know is this gonna make people panic and I think at the moment not really because we don't have anything else to really justify this being certified crazy right we know there's gonna be five star upgrades five star celebration right but I still think with this loading screen being out I think there is potential for the market to drop I know the market has been slowly dropping the past couple of days if we just kind of take a look at some random promo cards like let's go future stars right let's look at future stars I don't know future stars look Eva I was he doing recently eighty eight thousand coins again like last week he was a hundred and six K just kind of dipped down and he's been actually he's up a little bit from where he was he was in the low to mid 80s so it doesn't feel like the market has panicked a ton I know some cards on the middle to higher tier like some team of the years have dropped in value they have dipped a little bit whether that was because of the good SBCs we've had recently or just people starting to sell before for birthday these are the cards that we said to sell earlier on because we knew they were gonna drop and they they have been right 2.6 mil for her down to 2 million coins so there's definitely a drop there but it's not everywhere but I think there could be more drops on the market in the next day especially today and here's what I'll tell you from trading a lot in the last two or three days like it is not this moococo I think these two moococos for me are the cheapest ones they were have been the cheapest on the market for the past I think hour or close to it a bar a couple of undercuts coming in I think that the market is getting really slow and it's hard to get sales and that is one thing for me that signals there's a lot less demand and that could mean that some prices are going to drop whenever the panic whenever that switch kind of flips whenever it's a leak or some news about something that's gonna be coming out during for birthday that seems pretty crazy if it is good enough to make people feel like they're gonna panic I think that that could mean with prices starting to drop they could drop a lot because if there's not very many people buying then there's just gonna be drops and drops and undercuts and prices are going to go down so that is the thing that I would tell you to be a little bit careful with right now that's why I'm starting to take the cash I'm trying to just not undercut and panic but just trying to slowly get these cards out over the next day basically before it could get worse maybe later on today and then into tomorrow depending on how the leaks look so that's kind of the leak situation we'll just have to kind of fly by the seat of our pants if you will and see what happens today to impact the market in terms of news let's talk fodder because on the flip side of things fodder is up because EA did not drop the lightning rounds yesterday that were pummeling these prices all throughout the weekend they stopped now could they come back today they could so I have not invested in fodder I know yesterday we talked about doing a club stock on the low prices might not be a bad idea 89s back to 30k they were 27,000 apiece 90s 41,000 coins they were all 3567,000 coins at their lowest point the Bruins up a couple k a card 88s were all 15 now they're 18k but I am not buying this right now because I think it's very possible that Wednesday today EA could run those big lightning rounds again that is when they started running them last week which started to crash some of the fodder prices anyway so just be careful with that so I'm going to say if you're not invested like me I think we're kind of hoping for those lightning rounds to come back so that we potentially could invest but fodder is slightly up because there are SBCs people are crafting exchanges people are doing and maybe even some people investing in fodder because it was just at like an all-time low ahead of a birthday so that's kind of a market round up there just kind of waiting to see what happens today before we see some more drops and while take that sell on Suley that is a card that's playing today bought that for 310 selling for 357 love the profits but I need the coins and just like in the safe play of being liquid now being liquid selling some investments also something to think about today with yet again another Wednesday bringing the second I think well actually this might be the third set of fantasy FC upgrades and I'm not telling you to sell all these cards guys I'm really not but I know that a lot of them that were on the lower tier are up a lot Pedro poros 38,000 coins this guy was 20k for ages right I know a lot of you maybe have invested in him and his price is up a ton but it's because he's getting upgrades guys I do believe that a card like this should be should still continue to go up because he still has upgrades to get and he could go all the way to a 91 rated with the position that he's in but just remember last week with Polatano all the recipe for a price drop after a card upgrades is not many more upgrades to go and they've like if they've achieved three upgrades out of the four maybe even two I think you want to be careful and especially if it's a lower rated card so that poro is one that I'm just throwing some caution into the wind about just to be careful with he could go up today I don't think he goes up much if he gets up when he gets upgraded in fact I do think that he maybe drops off a little bit so if you want to sell and just be careful and get your coins there you absolutely can it's the lower rated cards that I'm the most worried about even Madsen who I already sold but he's 47,000 coins all he has to do is appear one more to go to an 80 to go to a 90 rated card actually he's going to go to an 89 after the second upgrade that he'll get tomorrow but I would just be careful with the lower rated cards and also I'd be careful if any of you crazy people have Ferlan Mendy still in your club I mean this is one actually I think is the most expensive left back in the game and I know he's getting a double upgrade is it a double upgrade or a single upgrade today I'm not quite sure but I think I would sell that card especially ahead of a birthday I don't know like seven milli for a left back is crazy and when he's not live anymore he's probably going to drop off even tail Hernandez team and they were still like what five to six mil so I could see this dropping a mill or so even though it's you know a crazy card and it's going to be insane in game so I would sell that so I'm just being careful with the live cards of course for those of us that have untradable live cards are getting upgraded today we're excited right because today is an upgrade day for Timo Werner so we're getting a plus one for Timo he's going to 91 rated as we progress through progress through all the upgrades he got the two win upgrade all he needs to do is see the pitch one more time and for spurs to score four more goals for him to go to a 92 rated card which is very possible and very exciting so those fantasy upgrades are coming out today or bonds getting a plus two as well or bond would be a card that I would be a little bit more careful with two maybe sell that one and not worry about it and just take your coins there unless you're holding on to somebody like Marmouch for the long term because you're hoping that they go to 91 rated or something like that apart from that I would just be careful now also as I'm going to maybe try to steal this Tamori here on a cheeky bid for a quick flip one thing to watch out for today is our second to last not the last second to last showdown SBC right we've got Lobotka and Bastoni matching up this weekend in Syria we've looked at that one we know about that one and then also we've got the other one is Bundesliga Wolf and cannot for Dortmund and Frankfurt and then this this showdown between the women's United and women's city teams is also still out there as well but I don't know how they're going to fit three showed on SBCs in the two days so one of these might not drop or maybe they drop two on one day we will just have to see what they do with that but of course we will get a daily showdown SBC today I just think think about how it was with we started with a congee and Bobby Clark and then it kind of went down from there I don't think it gets too much better today than Felix or even more expensive than Felix and the pie that we had yesterday so maybe two play style pluses but I would bet that the players that we get are a lot cheaper for the SBCs that come out today and then of course lasting look at is a new team of the week come out every Wednesday right we've got Modric we have got actually Modric with two play style pluses could be interesting and for those of you the team that your honorable mentions I don't know if it'll be better than that card probably not but actually it should be because he did not have any upgrades over the road of the knockouts for that version so Obamian is coming in team of the week and then White is coming in team of the week as well so doesn't look like a crazy team of the week and no no messy to speak of this time like there was this last week so maybe EA won't go all out in full send the lightning round packs maybe they'll try to save some of that for what is upcoming with foot birthday so that's kind of what to expect today on a Wednesday I don't think there's too much else it's expiring or actually you know what does the icon I guess the icons unlimited so it's not going to come back today maybe the the hero player pick yeah looks like the hero player pick does refresh today and Wednesday as well if you're interested in that oh and the 85 plus campaign mix upgrade has returned as well it is back and it was re-released yesterday so if you want to grind that that is out and available let's see if I win this bid I doubt I do yeah I'm not I'm not going to pay too much more than like 900k for this card I'll do nine okay guess I won't I don't think that's going to be able to sell for like too much higher than a million coins I don't know if it's worth my bids and my coins at this time but I'm gonna take the coins and some of this other stuff get ready get liquid I'll still trade on the market today I'm not scared of trading in a market that is volatile because there could be some very very good flips with the panic signaling so watch out for that but of course watch out for news info and everything today for birthday bring the hype and I hope there's something to get excited about very soon on this game so if you're excited for a birthday drop a thumbs up on the video comment below if you have any questions and check out the video yesterday from the second channel where we talked about the spring updates the changing of the seasons and gameplay and how that might even affect the market a little bit I'll put that link right up here and subscribe to that channel and subscribe to this channel if you haven't already so you don't miss uploads when they go live in the future I'll see you guys on twitch free today that links down below description see you guys there it's been made for the count and have a great day peace out


All right, it's Navarra Media. It's the eve of the election. Delighted to be joined by my boy Owen Jones Here he is Michael. Here he is. What you've been up to today, babe?  It was phenomenal. So Croydon just so we all know it's got about 150 vote majority for Gavin Barwell. He was a Tory housing minister The stories have an excellent record and housing Team really affordable homes built if you want my opinion. So what we've done is got a huge army out What was amazing about the crowd is how young it was. It was very diverse These are people obviously been often on the sharp end of the sorts of policies the likes of Gavin Barwell have been implementing because they probably struggling with ripoff private rents And what we did is just absolutely just swept through the constituency and it's just incredible because you know There is a grassroots army the Tories have the money they have the millions we have the people on the ground That's the difference we're up against a racket of vested interests. You have a shed load of I did get I did get a flyer from one To a relief at it today. I asked her if she was hired. She said she was a volunteer, but who knows Wow, I think we all know Yeah, she was a robot. I'm joking. Um, yeah We're real. We're not droids. No I mean we've got a huge army on our side all across the country and I'm a bit burnt out now because I've been doing it. Oh god. I'm never done now Um, a fair few and you've been doing your bit. You get people down there. It's good No, but what's amazing is the ones I've done and it's the same today about a third to a half of never been knocked in the door before And that is something to build on Cadre building that is young people often in their 20s annoying Uh, it was who never knocked on a door never gone out campaigning and the light If I don't do it now then when it's amazing. So I want to ask you a bit about the campaign in general Obviously, you've been a Corbyn supporter from the beginning Left the Labour Party, but you did have your doubts, right? We can also add your doubts. Have you been pleasantly surprised? Yeah, I mean, you know, I voted from twice campaign I put my heart and soul into his first campaign As uh, many of you is in the angry comments, probably some of the left below this have already pointed out I did uh, have very very public doubts The other wobble, uh, yeah, I mean the campaign has already proven me wrong In the sense of it's been a you know, it's not just the Tories have imploded which they have But let's not just to trigger you Labour's resurgence there because the Tory poll rating hasn't gone down that much Labour's has gone up massively and that's because They offered a vision an inspiring vision about what we could do In a very wealthy country to overcome all the problems we have that we asked those at the top to bear a bit more money So we can invest in education health housing jobs That we can have a genuine living wage that we can You know, we can bring our utilities back under control of the people of this country and that has cut through In in a way that my worry was that people made the minds so it didn't matter what we said They just wouldn't they wouldn't be listening to us, but where I've been proved Decisively wrong in a way You know and again, we're still the odds are stacked against us and election is going to be tossed That's why every single person needs to be out that I was proved wrong that people a lot of people have just changed their minds And have been inspired and we do have something to build on and my fear was We just march off to uh, you know, we'd be in the early 20s less in the polling and You know, that's my darkest moment. That's what I thought But it shows that people power a grassroots movement and inspiring vision And people are more up for socialism than we thought They bloody love it I want a bit of clairvoyance, right? So people are going to watch this tomorrow election day It's the evening before election day I want the prediction of what is going to be the headline on the sun the headline on the Daily Mail And the headline on your very own paper The Guardian So we're going to start with the sun. What do you think's going to be the headline? Um That Corbyn will nationalize your mother and he will force everyone to change their first name to Osama bin Laden or something The Daily Mail Um, I think the Daily Mail will be um that uh Every street in britain will have to be renamed Vladimir Lenin is well cool and uh, we should Um, or wear soviet berets and the guardian the guardian Well to be fair to the guardian I mean the guardian has pissed off a lot of people Uh in navara and I understand, you know the frustration there. It's a liberal newspaper It's not a socialist newspaper bear that on mind the only socialist, you know They've got me and george mombio and so williams on the left. He's right for it gives a platform for us um I mean the guardian came up with an editorial which was wholeheartedly about labor in this election. So I don't know um Yeah vote labor. I mean, it'll be a nice object. You know like neck and neck in the polls. What's going to happen? I think no, I don't know. It'll I I will hope it will be a solid Tories and labor's done something good. All right. This is going out on election day We're not going to waste this opportunity with oan jones. I want to the camera That that motivational speech. What should people be doing this afternoon? Who should people call? What should they how do we do the best we can? For a socialist government come tomorrow morning. These are my pleading eyes. Can you look at these puppy dog? Pleading eyes. Look seriously now. I mean genuinely serious here If you don't at this moment do every last thing you can do To to get people out to vote for labor then Then when because we have a labor party offering an inspiring vision about what this country can be That we can build the houses that people need that we can have decent well-paid jobs for everybody that that we can overcome Poverty and insecurity that we don't punish young people who aspire to education by saddling them with debt That we don't force old people to be fearful of losing their own homes if they want social care That we can have utilities that we all depend on not run by profiteers or governments that aren't accountable to us But by the people of this country these are things you can have but only if you go out now And literally get every single person you know Drag them kicking and screaming if necessary to a polling station Because the good polling that has probably given you a lot of heart a lot of you heart Is based on people like younger voters and non-voters and a surge in support by women for labor A lot of altitudes think to themselves. You're not going to come out and vote Young people. This is what they're saying. They're lazy.  You can turn this around This is history But only if at this very moment this last moment you do everything you can to get every single person You know to come out. Don't do it now now Thank you. And it's a pleasure to share this historic moment with you You'll be watching this on facebook Most probably my idea Well, it's not an original idea message 20 people Who you haven't talked about politics for in the last year people who you don't know if they're gonna vote message 20 of them More if you've got time Go out canvassing if you if you if you're up for it go on my nearest marginal.com That will tell you who really needs the help and it's so easy It's so easy if you've never done it before Most people I've been out with I've never done it before you'd be paired up with someone's experience It makes such a difference. It gets the very out. 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Thank you for your patience while we go ahead and get everyone together and make sure that we have tested all of our AV. So good day to everyone who is joining us for DevConf in 2022. I'm Leslie Hawthorne and I will be your moderator for today's keynote panel. For my day job, I work as a senior manager in Red Hat's open source program office where I lead the team that is focused on community engagement for industry verticals. Today is my fourth DevConf, but it's my first time addressing the audience for the virtual event. And I'm sure I speak for many of us when I say I look forward to us all meeting together in Bernau and having a wonderful coffee and enjoying sessions together in person for a future DevConf. Before we begin our keynote panel in earnest today, I'd like to pause for just a moment for a virtual round of applause for the whole team working behind the scenes to bring DevConf to us each year. And I would especially like to thank all of them for their hard work to just quickly change tactics and make sure that we could all continue to meet virtually. So we really much very much appreciate everyone who's involved in bringing us DevConf. So thank you very much. You want to say thank you in chat. That's also great. All right, so awesome. So thank you all for expressing your appreciation right along with me. I'm excited that we have for our keynote today kind of a new perspective with DevConf CZ's global audience right in our talk today. We're going to move beyond our delightful details about technical implementations and we're going to do a deeper exploration of the value of open source software, open artificial intelligence, open content and open standards and how these will are all currently being used to create a better future for Europe's citizens. Our remarks today will explore the current state of the art for open in public policy, municipal governments in academic areas and we'll be looking at developments at the European Union wide level within particular countries and also at the city level. And I'm particularly excited today that we get to share together the impact of open in DevConf's own home city of Bernaud in the Czech Republic. When we're thinking about the context for our remarks today, you know, it's really clear that open source software has been a foundational element in Europe's technology ecosystem for decades and only my 15 years or so working with the global open source community. I've been honored to know so many European free and open source software developers, many of whom runs their own small to medium enterprises. They create and support open source solutions. They create business value. They create economic mobility for their employees. So I've always been excited about the power of open source to be able to do that to foster small business growth and make sure that people can have a good life working together and moving beyond just my own anecdote and personal experience. We also have the recent European Commission study from 2021 on the economic impact of open source software and hardware on the European Union economy. And the estimates from that study are that open source contributes to between 65 to 95 billion with a billion euros to the European Union's GDP. And then when we're thinking about things in the policy context, there's been several important developments over the past 20 years opening up Europe's IT market and driving genuine freedom in the IT space. So we can think of examples as far back as the European Union's first version of their open source strategy that came to us in 2003. That was the foundation for providing the grounds to switch over to Linux for the public sector. Then more recently, we have the Tallinn Declaration of 2017, which said that they're mandated making use more use of open source solutions or open standards when building ICT systems. And then even more recently than that, we have the Berlin Declaration of 2020, which further underscored the importance of open source as a key component of creating human-centered systems and innovative technologies in the public sector, but also throughout Europe. And then if we think about the ways in which open source and open standards are being institutionalized, being made an operationalized part of how things are done in Europe. In just the past 18 months, we've seen a number of developments that underscore the significance and importance for open in Europe, such as the creation of an open source program office at the European Commission within Germany's Ministry of the Interior. And most recently in France's Interministerial Digital Directorate. I've already mentioned the European Commission's detailed study on open source software and hardware that was to publish just six months ago. And then if we look at the way that industry consortia organizations and software foundations have been continuing to advocate for open source throughout Europe from a business and policy perspective for a very long time, we also note that the Eclipse Foundation took the notable action in July of 2021 to move its headquarters from North America to be based in Brussels, Belgium because of all of the growth and activity for their work coming, you know, being driven largely through Europe. So it's with all of these recent events in mind that I bring our focus to today's keynote panel open across Europe from the continent to the cities. I'm honored today to be joined by four distinguished panelists, three of whom can offer us their perspectives, not just as subject matter experts, but as citizens of the Czech Republic and even current or possibly former residents of Bernou. I am pleased to welcome to the stage Mr. Marcel Collaya, Ms. Lucy Smolka, Mr. Robert Spall and Ms. Claire Dillon with and great thanks for their forgiveness. Should I mispronounce their names? Let's go ahead and meet all of our panelists individually. I will first introduce Mr. Marcel Collaja, Quester of the European Parliament and Vice President of the Czech Pirate Party. He served until very recently as a Vice President of the European Parliament. He engages in the committee on the internal market and consumer protection, the committee on culture and education, and the special committee on artificial intelligence in the digital age. His work is mainly focused on topics related to the functioning society in the digital age and he stands for open technologies, freedom on the internet, independence of media, transparency and a united Europe. He is also a graduate of Masarik University and a former resident of Bernou. Thank you so much for joining us today Marcel. Hello, thanks for inviting me. Excellent. I am now pleased to introduce Ms. Lucy Smolka, the lead of the Open Cities Organization in the Czech Republic, as well as the co-founder and lead of the Open Content Organization and the Czech branch of Creative Commons. Lucy joins us today from Bernou where she is a lawyer specializing in law in the digital space and combining law and technology into modern social tools. Under her leadership, the Open Cities Organization helps municipalities with their digitalization and openness strategies, bringing together several Czech cities to collaborate and share code and other resources together. She is a frequent lecturer and published author on public licensing, copyright and software law, and is also a fellow graduate of Masarik University in Bernou where she received her doctorate in intellectual property. Thank you very much for joining us today, Lucy. Thank you very much, Leslie, and thank you for having me here. I'm very happy to be here and for the chance to speak here today. Thank you. Wonderful, thank you. And we will turn now to Mr. Robert Spau, a GIS specialist in the Data and Analytics Department of the Bernou City Municipality. Robert manages the ongoing program to ensure that the data resources of the city of Bernou meet the needs of the city's residents from a content functionality and operational perspective. He is a subject matter in open data, and he is our third panelist from the Czech Republic and our third alumni of Masarik University, where he studied geographic information science and cartography. Thank you so much for joining us today, Robert. Thank you very much, Leslie, and I'm looking forward to this lively discussion. Wonderful. And last, but obviously certainly not least, I am pleased to introduce Ms. Claire Dillon. She is the executive director of the Inner Source Commons Organization, which is a global community of practitioners with the goal of creating and sharing knowledge about using open source software best practices to do software development inside of organizations. She also helps organize the OSPO++ network to support the establishment of university and government open source program offices worldwide. In 2021, she was instrumental in setting up the Open Ireland Network, a community for those interested in advancing open source at a national level in Ireland. Previously, Claire was a member of Microsoft Ireland's leadership team and has spent more than 25 years working with developers and developer communities. She's a graduate of Trinity College in Dublin where she studied mathematics. Thank you for joining us today, Claire. Thank you, I'm delighted to be here. It's not often you get to say the good thing about a pandemic, but the good thing about this pandemic is that I'm here at this virtual conference, so I really appreciate it. Thank you. We're very happy to have you. All right, friends, my thanks again to our esteemed panel. I'm sorry, my script is failing me. There we go. So thank you to all of my esteemed panelists. Now that we've had the opportunity to meet all of them, let's go ahead and dive into how open is manifesting across Europe at the continental, national, and municipal levels. We'll begin today with a question to Mark Tell. We are seeing a surge of interest around open source as a policy tool across Europe. Would you please share your insights with us about how open source, open standards, and principles of open collaboration are taking shape from your point of view as a quester and until very recently vice president of the European Parliament and also as a vice president of the Czech Pirate Party. Right, yeah, thanks for the question. I am a member of the Bureau of the European Parliament a third year now for two and a half years in the capacity of a vice president of the European Parliament now as a quester. And the most important thing for me and for my work in the Bureau and I also need to add that the two and a half years I was a vice president for ICT. I worked in the ICT innovation strategy working group of the Bureau of the European Parliament and I was responsible for ICT in the European Parliament. And for me, the most important thing was to make sure that open source solutions are taken as default in the European Parliament. And that is now currently the case. Probably we don't need to go into the details of the internal procedures in the Bureau of the European Parliament and how this can be achieved. But the fact is that at this moment solutions based on open source are default. I can give you an example now with the pandemics that already has been mentioned. I use it as an example. At the beginning of the pandemic, the parliament suddenly had to completely change the way how it worked. Before then everything happened face to face, including meetings and most importantly, including voting. So you had for not only the committees but the voting sessions of the plenary, you had to gather all the MEPs in one time at one place. You had 700 MEPs at one place voting. And that, of course, was no possible with the pandemic to put 700 people in one room. So we had to basically from day to day that completely change the way how we work. And we started to do voting remote. So in order to be able to guarantee the integrity of the vote, for me it was extremely important that we all vote by roll call, which means that we can identify which member of the parliament voted which way. And that we could use as some kind of a procedural guarantee of integrity of the vote because the parliament, of course, was not ready for any kind of formal verification through cryptography that the voting integrity is guaranteed. As you can imagine, this was a bit complicated because different committees vote a bit in a different way. And there was a system that was introduced in some of the committees that was called I-Vote. And as the name maybe suggests a bit, it worked with the proprietary application from Apple and required from every member of the European Parliament voting to have an account with Apple's iCloud, which I found totally unacceptable. And I worked on replacing the solution with an internally developed solution, which now currently is the case. Voting in the committees is now based on this internally developed solution. And why I'm speaking about this is that it is based on open source. Now, where the line between the understanding of the parliament of the advantages of open source lies at this moment is that there is a clear understanding that by using open source technologies, the parliament can save a lot of resources, save a lot of money, make systems that can be reused or create systems that can be reused. But where the understanding is still not is the advantage of the open source development model. So the application, unfortunately, by itself is not open source in a way that you could look up the code in a public repository that you could file bugs, maybe that you could do code verification that you could improve the codes or fix issues that are in there. So there is still a long way to go. But from this perspective, I think that we have already gone quite some way. Now, one of the major issues that I have identified is the reluctance to use open source software is because of capacities and because of not really being able to understand which system is already out there and which could be used or reused. And for that reason, as a member of the European Parliament, I have put forward a pilot project, which is a way how I could start with the European Commission a project that is financed from the budget of the European Union. And I have put forward a project that is called now with the European Commission FOSEPs, which I always forget what it is, so I have my little cheat sheet. It's free and open source software solutions for European public services. And the goal of the project is to bring together the repositories of open source solutions for the public sphere, bring them together, create a unified interface and enable sharing of experience and create some kind of knowledge sharing platform that then could be used by public authorities so that the knowledge that we have with using open source solutions can be shared across them. The aim is not to create another platform because that obviously does not work, but it's more to synthesize the work that has some results in other catalogues of free and open source software that exists out there. Very cool. I had absolutely no idea about the proprietary voting applications taking place in the Parliament, so that's... Thank you for your service to make sure that those solutions are open source. And I'm also very excited to hear about the ongoing work to continue cataloging all of the open source resources that are available for use by public bodies because I know that there have been some excellent work done on that in the past and the idea that we could have kind of a European-wide catalog is very exciting. So thank you very much for those comments, Martel. So we will now turn to Robert for his remarks from the perspective of a practitioner of open at the city level. I took bets on how long it would take me to interrupt. Can you put a little thing up here on ponytail? Okay, but you know you're making mommy look very unprofessional right now. Can you go back to your room, Linda? You know, because my key does not make me a pony, then after that I have a big mess because I like leaving the ridges then there. Your mom is not really great at putting a ponytail in your hair when she's in the middle of a presentation, but I think you look very good now. More. Your comment was bad for us. Well, I will do a better job when I'm not in the middle of a talk, okay? You didn't put it too low down. Probably. Why don't you ask Scottie if he can help you? Hello, wonderful and patient people. Hi, I'm Pacta. Hi, Robert. As we're thinking about looking into what open means for Europe at the city level, at the municipal level, can you tell us some of the work about some of the work done by the data and analytics team for Burno and how your group serves the city's citizens? Yeah, thank you, Leslie. Our team is responsible for the management and development of Burno Urban Data Platform, data.burno.cz. By the way, for those listeners or viewers who do not speak Czech, it's also in English, so you can access it as well. The platform serves as an entry point for anyone who needs the city data for their work, projects or research. We have already published over 120 high-quality datasets ranging from the population data through transportational data to environmental data. On top of the various formats or distributions available, many of which are open standards such as GeoJSON or GeoPackage. We also generate feeds for every dataset, which allows anyone to just connect to the data and use them in any way, in any app or system they want to build. Free of charge, free of any constraints, it's just your open data. What needs to be mentioned, however, I think is the fact that we go with quality or quantity, so most of our datasets are continuously updated and have a complete metadata and detailed documentation if needed. And this platform enables our citizens and companies to have a seamless access to the city data, which saves time and money for everyone basically, including our own colleagues who do not need to send countless emails back and forth. I would like to now mention several apps or use cases that incorporated our data, and for example, architects or construction engineers use 3D model of a city or app named KAMSNIM or Wear with the Trash in English, you would say. This app navigates users to the nearest container for recyclables and the app feeds the data directly from our database through the platform. There is also one use case I would like to highlight, which is currently undergoing or currently we are working on that. We have a problem in the city of Brno that many streets are very narrow, long and one way, and when the garbage truck comes to a particular street, it clocks the whole street. So and there are like 20, 30, 45, 50 minutes traffic jams and we had a couple of solutions, but most of them were really expensive how to solve the problem. So at the end we decided that we will use the data platform to feed the position of data of trucks to the navigational systems such as VACE and similar. So anyone with a car navigation or driving navigation will be able to easily see that there is a garbage truck and they should avoid a certain street. So this will minimize or hopefully it will remove the whole problem. So I think this is a perfect illustration of how these kind of platforms can be useful. There are many other examples like that and I could continue for a while, but the main point here I think is that as our society becomes more and more digital and as more and more processes go online, the importance of platforms, platforms such as this are increasing and are becoming more of a necessity because it makes our lives easier, it makes our lives better and most importantly the lives of our citizens. And although we are only at the beginning of the road and I think its impacts are still relatively small, I think we are going to see a rapid growth of importance in the upcoming years. Thank you so much Robert. I was just so impressed when you mentioned that all of your work was documented and kept consistently updated and available with all metadata. You folks should be very proud of your data hygiene and your practices. That's amazing. I still rarely hear that. So I appreciate your remarks. Thank you. We'll now turn to Lucy to tell us more about how the different ways that open source is benefitting urine, peon cities, beyond burnout, more widely throughout the entire Czech Republic. So Lucy as we're looking at how the impact of open collaboration and co-creation and contribution across the Czech Republic, can you tell us more about the two organizations that you're leading open cities and open content? And specifically we'd like to know what collaborations across cities these groups have done and I am also, if you have time and the desire to tell us, if these groups are also collaborating with organizations outside of the Czech Republic as well. Thank you very much, Leslie. So I will briefly introduce activities of our organizations. So at open content we focus on legal issues of modern technologies and law on the Internet. And among these areas we are dealing, for example, with licensing of copyrighted works, with compatibility of software licenses, with legislation requiring public administration to digitize processes. That's also very topical right now. And also we analyze gaps that current legislation did not think about. We are trying to explain what you can, what you cannot do, what you can expect. Right now we are also dealing with a number of issues concerning legislative requirements for digitization and implementation in public administrations and cities. Open cities, they focus directly on cooperation and support for cities interested in digitization, openness and database decision-making. And also let's say use of modern technologies to simplify public administration and facilitate access, orientation and providing information for citizens. Open cities try to bring together those cities who are interested and who are active and who want to participate in joint projects. So a very important part of activities of open cities, apart from educational and consulting activities, it is definitely development and operation of open source software. So we provide open source tools that cities can operate and they can use them either on their own or they can use our help. So we have projects. One of them, the oldest one is called Cityvisor, Cityvisor in Czech. And this project arose from cooperation of cities and Ministry of Finances. And this project enables transparent and clear display of municipal finances. So the aim of this tool is to bring the budget, the budgeting closer to the citizens and show it in comprehensible form and also simplify further work with the budget and simplify it for also for the analysts and for publicists also. I would also mention another project of us and it's the open source software that helps with digitalization of the subsidy process. So the original version was created with the help of City of Prague Tree, let's say Prague Tree District. And then the open cities took over the project and modified it and developed it more. And now we are creating more and more functionalities which helps the cities. So the software allows you to process the entire subsidy process and the city can then have the entire application and all further steps of the subsidy process. For example, to support sports or culture or, I don't know, establishing green areas in the city. It's all digitized in the software. And maybe I'll mention one more project. It's our latest and it's continuous scanning of vulnerabilities. And this project, the software was created in the response to cities concerns about cyber attacks and about misuse of computing power or data or leakage of documents. And it is a supplement to penetration tests. So it's not a penetration test, but it helps with cybersecurity. Let's say it's like an antivirus program that looks for vulnerabilities in the infrastructure of municipalities. So that's our latest. And unfortunately, we have not found a similar organization which we could collaborate in other states. But we found some very, very helpful and very, very great organization which are currently helping us with some other goals of us. I have to say we are very lucky because we found partners who already have so much experience with open source and with establishing open source program offices and open source hubs. And I must definitely mention Vienna business agency, which are participating in a project with us. Also amazing guys from open forum Europe. And of course, the editors, both from Bruno and from abroad. So thank you guys for your help. Thank you for the opportunity to serve on behalf of myself and my fellow Red Hunters. Thank you very much for your remarks. Lucy, I appreciate it. So we will now move on from hearing about the wonderful work being done in the Czech Republic and also the exciting collaboration with Vienna as well. So let's look at kind of now change our lens to the idea of open source impact but at the national level and invite Claire Dillon to to offer remarks focused on her home country of Ireland and also her experience working with some other folks working at the national level. So Claire, while we're really still in the in the early days when we think about institutional of open institutionalization of open source across Europe. Ireland, though, has had some early triumphs around this with open source, particularly in the academic space. Would you please share more with us about how open is taking shape in Ireland and the innovations that are occurring as a result. Certainly. Thank you, Leslie. So I wouldn't say triumphs in that respect, but but I will say, you know, I think that when we see early wins, we absolutely need to celebrate them. And just to say that I came upon and began to learn about the open ecosystem and the potential for positive economic impact of open source software only in the last number of years. So I'm not one of, I'm not a long term open source and Fischianado, but I am a I'm all in now because I have learned in recent years about the potential positive benefits of it. And that was why I became involved in the Ospo plus plus network which is a network for open source program offices in government and universities and it's fantastic to see Lucy mentioning the fact that that is a trend that's hitting the Czech Republic as well. When I was started that work. And it became obvious to me through various conversations that Ireland was not necessarily well known for their stance on open source. In fact, people really didn't know what was necessarily happening in Ireland. So one of the things that I wanted to do from that was was actually connect together the people in Ireland who were working in the open source ecosystem. And it actually became a surprise to me but a very, very pleasant surprise to find out that one of the first open source program offices in universities in Europe was actually from Trinity College Dublin which was my alma mater. And, and, you know, that was that was a surprise I didn't know it existed until we started connecting the ecosystem in Ireland because there are a lot of people in Ireland involved in open source, but they don't know each other. And, and there isn't a kind of a national awareness of what's happening, the global trends, or these benefits that can can be gained from working in the open. So when we found out about the Ospo in Trinity we were delighted. And it's even more, I think a little bit unusual than some other Ospo's in that it actually came out of their tech transfer office their TTO, and which is actually quite unusual from a from a from an Ospo's perspective in university. But it was because they had an early recognition of the potential for startups to spin out of technology that was happening in Trinity, and but to do it in the basis of operating in the open source ecosystem or relying or somehow integrating the idea of open collaboration in their business model. And there have been some great successes from that perspective in terms of startups in Ireland that are operating in this way and it's a fantastic thing to see. And then when we think about that, I mean in the context of that, the report that you mentioned earlier, the, that came out about the potential positive economic impact of open source for the European, you know, that came out for the European Commission but for all of Europe is for everyone actually but but but specifically for Europe. And I think that there's a huge interest now to see well how can we accelerate that in terms of that indigenous innovation ecosystem in Ireland so we're seeing a lot of interest from some of the other agencies in Ireland to see well okay if this is an opportunity then how can we support people are operating in that area. And I'll also note that in recent years we had the second thing that happened more recently in Ireland was the fact that we had the our covert tracker app in Ireland and was was built and released then as open source software, primarily actually initially because they wanted to make sure that the privacy aspects and everything that they were doing was done in the open so that they would get by in from the citizens and in terms of their trusting the software. But that was the first time, certainly that I'm aware of that the health service executive had decided to do something in the open like that and it then follow on became that one of the starter projects for the Linux Foundation public health initiative. And what's amazing to me about that is that it started to dawn on people that again, I think like Marcel mentioned that open source isn't necessarily just about the idea of reducing cost or, you know, getting reuse, but that there is this ability for people to collaborate in order to gain trust of citizens to have transparency and for it to be better, better and more easily adopted, but also to facilitate these kind of cross border scenarios. So from our perspective, the same code was used in Northern Ireland as in the Republic of Ireland, which really helped when it came to navigating the restrictions around covert on the island of Ireland, for example, and that sense has been gone on to be used in other scenarios as well. So, for me, it was one of the first times that you saw people recognizing these additional benefits other than cost and reuse and these practical elements, but how open source and open collaboration is almost necessary for us to be able to tackle some of the challenges that are coming at us so fast. So, I, you know, personally speaking, I think it's amazing when we start to see these trends in Europe, and what the opportunities are, and more recently still in open Ireland Network, we had some government representatives come on and say that they were very keen to work with organizations like, for example, the UN Digital Impact Alliance around things like GovStack and to try and look at how, instead of everyone building everything for themselves, how can we collaborate across borders to actually be more efficient, but also to make things work across borders. So, I'm delighted to hear and learn about, you know, the stuff that is happening in the Czech Republic, and I would love to follow up with Lucy afterwards around the Open Cities Initiative, because for me, this is, it's the, it's the, these kinds of connections and collaborations, and that I think can can really help demonstrate the additional value that open source and open collaboration can bring. And because I do think that that narrative for people outside this ecosystem needs to change so they're not thinking about it just as sure I can get something for free, but it's more to say, how else would you tackle these global problems, the only way to do it is through collaborating and working together. Thank you so much for those wonderful remarks, Claire, and I know that in some of our past discussions we've really talked about this process of institutionalizing open source is really all about bringing together the people who are already engaged in the process of that as a discipline and helping them to find the folks who will collaborate with them within their own, you know, department or their own team and then all the way out to the entire global folks who want to volunteer to spend their time together, getting the right things done for all of civil society. So thank you so much for that. So, folks, I wanted to just do a quick check in with our audience we have had so much wonderful stuff to share today that we haven't even gotten to our second round of questions, and we're supposed to conclude our panel in seven minutes so I'm just going to do a really quick check in with my panelists. Would you find folks like us to draw our attention out of the chat and ask for audience questions. Oh, because I'm happy to do that since we have a little bit less time okay cool I'm saying some thumbs up. And then if we don't have any questions from our fine audience members. Marcel I'm going to ask you what was going to be our concluding capstone question, and then we're all going to enjoy the rest of dev conf together if that's okay. It adds in delight so that's wonderful alright fine folks who are watching the live stream I look to the chat function in our event platform hop in now if you have any questions you want to ask her feedback you want to give the participants I'm going to quickly scroll up. I see a lot of clapping. That makes me feel good about that. Please that we are all having a good session here together. And a people need coffee, I agree with this as a stance at all times I have to say. Let's see. I agree master rec University rules and I still think I didn't learn to pronounce it correctly but I have been practicing and probably not well enough. We had a comment from Lubos but Marcel has responded to this. Oh there's a Q&A tab. Thank you, Pavel. You are a wonderful human being. Okay, but we do not have any questions from today. So that is okey dokey pokey. Alright. Claire has asked I would love to or is stated that she would love to add that if folks are interested in learning more about the Ospo plus plus network please feel to reach out or to visit Ospo plus plus calm. This is a group of the best way to put it in Claire should absolutely correct me if I'm wrong is this is a loosely affiliated of people who are well acquainted and deeply committed to the idea of creating open source program offices for government or for academic institutions and when we say government this could be, you know, European Parliament this is things like the European Commission this is at the city level this is at the national level. And the idea there being not only that open source program offices are good because they help with open source and doing more open source related activities but really it's about that the ability for people to connect with one another, because if you know that some place has an open source program office, you are likely to know exactly where to go to find the people that you need to collaborate with right, otherwise, you know, if you're talking about, you know, government style open source things it could be that, you know, in Germany you're talking to the Ministry of the Interior, excuse me that's Germany, in Germany you're talking to the Ministry of the Interior in France you're talking to the digital directorate so how do you even find the people you're supposed to be able to connect with so Ospo plus plus is here as a group to establish connective tissue between folks who are engaged in this sort of work and I hang out on their calls I always learn something new so I absolutely invite folks to come along. All right, since we have not gotten any any further audience questions I'm going to turn the stage back to Marcel and ask our final question. So Marcel gathering together all of our themes for today. So I'd like to ask you to examine a common thread among them right so now we're about to enter into the Czech presidency of the European Union later this year. So can you give us your thoughts on what the Czech presidential agenda should look like when it comes to open source and open innovation please. All right. Yeah, that's a good question. So first we need to realize what actually the presidency in the Council of the European Union is and in short, that is an opportunity to set the direction for the whole Union for the six months of the Czech Republic will have this opportunity. So and one of the key tasks for the presidency is to finish the negotiations on the open legislation so unless the French presidency that you know is currently the French now currently have the presidency. Unless they finish the legislation on the negotiation on the legislation on the Digital Markets Act, then this is what the Czech presidency should take as an utmost priority. That is a legislation that will help to tame the big tech giants that currently basically concentrate a lot of market share on some specific digital markets like social networks or chat platforms, search engines, etc. And why I speak about that in connection with open source is that what I was able to push through in the negotiations in the European Parliament is a principle of interoperability. So these tech giants like Google, Facebook, Apple, they would be required to open their services like social networks and chat platforms for interoperability. So that competitors, including of course, open source services like for instance, mastodon for for a social network, they could interconnect and interoperate with them. And that this would solve one of the major issues for for them when it comes to getting actually some users because nobody wants to be on a network where there are no users. Of course, it would be really handy in that sense, if I may have a little ask to, you know, go through your respective governments and tell them about this, how this how this is important. And that we should in the Council of the European Union push for this principle of interoperability. Also, there is a plan for a proposal for an EU governments interoperability strategy that is foreseen in the second quarter of this year. And we would like to see the presidency committing to advance the discussions on this file. And last, but not least that I will mention is that the Czech presidency will have on the table to finish, or at least advance negotiations on the regulation of artificial intelligence, the artificial intelligence act. And over there, there is, of course, a huge potential to to shape the legislation in a way that, you know, transparency is one of the most core principles how to make the use of artificial intelligence fair and not discriminating. And of course, all of us know that open source software is the best positioned to, you know, take leverage of this requirement that is really important for the future. So that would be my three examples. Thank you so much for those remarks, Marcel. I want to thank everyone who attended our panel discussions today, our keynote and also thank you very much to anyone who may be viewing this video later on. I also want to once again thank my esteemed panelists for joining us today and sharing their time and their wisdom with us on Saturday, because, you know, thank you. We're able to share your perspectives and spend some of your day with us here today. Once again, thank you to all of the folks who are organizing deaf comp once again this year we look forward to thanking you. We hope in person next year. And finally, I would like to just note to members of the audience who may be interested in these sorts of topics. The open forum Europe group from Brussels their public policy think tank in Brussels will be hosting an event on European Union public policy next week. It is completely free of charge to attend sessions are also offered after the fact on video. So if you would like to continue your learnings in this area or have an opportunity to talk to other speakers who are touching on these same things, please do consider attending the open forum Europe public policy event next week. I thank you all for coming and I look forward to seeing you in a future deaf con session. Thank you. Cheers folks. Thank you very much as well. Cheers. Thank you. Bye bye. Have a great day. Great conference. Thank you Leslie. Thank you for having me. Bye bye. Thank you all. Cheers. Bye bye.


A color party is made up of a group of people, mostly people that have had experience. I was just sort of tossed into it by my husband because he was a sergeant at arms and always needed bodies. So, but I happily went along with it. Now, my coordination is reasonably good. So I was able to do so. We attended various functions. Unfortunately, celebrations of life were a lot of those and the parades of course, and anything where a legion was required to be present, they usually had a color party. And it was a very rewarding thing to have done people and people always like to see the military and they like to see the flags. If we always carried first the Canadian flag, the Union Jack, the provincial flag, and the municipal flag plus NATO flags. And depending on the occasion, if it happened to be a European country, that would be represented as well. And the sergeant at arms had to look after if we had visiting, we're visiting ship for example, I remember occasion where when we had a ship from Mexico and it's up to the people to provide their national anthem, which can sometimes be a challenge, but it always seemed to work, I think. So my time as a member of the color party was always, you felt very proud.