Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy, E-CEO, and I'm here with the lovely. Amazing. I stand in. Damn, official Mr. Mako, what's going on? None, none.  Man, hey man, listen man, you know, y'all niggas don't really understand what going down over here, Boss Talk 101. Y'all think y'all know, but y'all really gonna find out, man. It going down, man. We get some of the dopest guests to come on Boss Talk 101, man. This guy right here, man, I've been rocking with him a long time. You know, if you really love music, you know who this is. If you don't, then you front, then you know your history, man. Jody Breeze in the building. Yes, sir, yes, sir. What's going on, my God? Man, I'm chilling, big bro. Man, hey man, it's a lot I want to ask you about. A lot. I'm with you, I'm with you. But, I know already she gonna- Ladies first. Damn. Ladies first. But one thing I say, I love your accent. I love that Atlanta accent. Because not everybody has that, we've met so many people from Atlanta, but it's only a certain, I don't even have to be from a certain part of Atlanta to have that accent. But it's just, some of y'all, like DJ Ace, he got it. DJ Ace. Yeah, he got that accent. You got it, I can hear it. Yeah, I appreciate it. But not everybody have it.  Not so much, not so much. But anyway, you from Atlanta, what part? I'm from south of Atlanta, Christian Georgia. Oh, okay. So you don't rap Atlanta? One thing I know it's about y'all is like, it'd be like, oh, I don't rap Atlanta. I'm from such and such, it's just like everybody always that's some everybody into Atlanta. You got to rap where you from, but you got to rap where you from, but it's still Atlanta, you know what I mean? Right, that's what- How far is it? Is it outskirt or is it- It's like probably like 35 minutes, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you always in Atlanta anyway.  Marietta, it's right there too, ain't it? Yeah, it's a lot of places in Atlanta, if you drive north, 30, 40 minutes it's outskirt, but you know, that's what makes up Atlanta. Yeah, yeah. It's the outskirts. And Georgia has so much to offer. I didn't realize till what I hate, cause we visit there frequently, but I come back home and be on my Instagram and stuff, and I see people taking pictures by this place, like it has a waterfall and stuff like that. And I'm like, nah, that's not Atlanta. Well, it's in Centennial Park. Somewhere, yeah, somewhere out there. And I'm like, that's pretty. I'm like, I've never seen that in Atlanta before. Yeah, that's Atlanta. It's like downtown, like midtown Atlanta. But it'd be like a waterfall. And you can take pictures and stuff. I'm like, damn, that's beautiful. Atlanta is a beautiful city, though, forever. Yeah. Low-key. So you raised with your mom, dad, or just your mom? I was raised with a mom and a stepdad. And a stepdad. Me too, man.  So you know, I come from that kind of background. But was he a functional drug addict or was he not? He was functional. He was functional. Was he still in your life?  But some people come on and be like, no, my mom or my dad was a functional drug addict where you wouldn't really know unless you know.  You know what I mean? Man. Especially back then, you know. It's not everywhere, but I was, I had it everywhere, you know what I'm saying? It was worse.  When I first got some, I stole it from my uncle.  And when I came up, you know what I'm saying? I really came up. Like I really was like the man. I didn't realize what was going on in my mind. I lost kind of thought of who I used to be. I became the man, you know what I'm saying? People were listening to me and then I started, you know, I really, I started buying stuff with it that I didn't know you should even be doing, you know, the girls was kind of, they like it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know. Let's be real, when you young, when you young, you don't know. So you trying to figure this out.  Yeah. You know, I had a whooping nigga behind the two of them. One thing I know is all y'all men do it because of the woman. It was amazing. They do it because they want a woman's attention. The woman, no, it wasn't just. No, it wasn't just about the power, nigga. And the money.  I'm going to tell you something. The money was so, you didn't care about the money or as much as you cared about the dope because you knew if you had the dope, you had the money coming. So if I ran out, I used to be like, man, dog, if I had a bread, I'd be upset, nigga. Like, I got to have it. You want some more? Yeah, so I can be able to do my thing what I was trying to do. Because that's what time it was like, nigga, had to have that dog boy in the money, nigga. You know what I'm saying? The money will come in. Yeah. Because the money can't, because you have to, you didn't have the frame of mind to invest the money in anything else, nothing like that. No, no, I had 10 cars, I had no house, nothing, I lived with mama. We just ride clean every day. Damn right. You have to hide, we'll be out of here. They were the days though. Yeah, it was a different time. So sisters and brothers? Yeah, I got like three sisters and one brother. And where you falling between that?  Oh, okay. So were you raised like a baby boy or no?  He always telling me not to spoil my baby boy, but I don't think so. They didn't spoil, I was bad here. They didn't spoil, I was bad here. What's the worst thing you did when you was a kid? What's the worst thing I did? Yeah. Why you say that you was bad? Like, what's the worst thing? She, I give you an incident. Okay. I say probably in the 10th, I mean in fifth grade, I was probably like 10 years old. I stole the car and drove, I drove to school for a week, to elementary school for a whole week. 10 years old? Yeah, I only got a coat because I bussed the tire coming back home on that Friday. Whose car did you steal? I stood there to go. And he didn't know? No, he was asleep, he was a truck driver. Oh, so he was out of town? No, he was asleep, he just be knocked out, you know what I mean? For 10 days straight? No, not for 10 days. Five days. For five days, sorry. Not about four, because he went to school. No, it was morning through Friday. So four, really? But how is that possible? He's not asleep the whole day. That's why I'm like, how is that possible? I'm saying when I get up in the morning, he's asleep. Oh, when you come back home, he's still asleep. Oh, he didn't realize. No, and I was getting away with it. I got away with it for five days, I bussed the tire coming back home on that Friday. That's crazy. Yeah. I guess he didn't know how to change the tire. No, they called the police right, they called the police right and say, they say somebody bussed the tire some shit, but you know, I did it. What, what did he say? What did he find out?  And told him that you've been doing it? Yeah, I was doing it. What did he say?  They really were. What you mean? What they say? They tried to kill me. What are they talking about?  He tried, he literally tried to kill me. I would have hit, I would have hit, he wouldn't have found me. No, no, I was just curious, man.  I just like. So did you know how to drive? Actually know how to drive at that time? Yeah, my mama taught me how to drive. It was her fault. But she was just trying to look out for him the best she could, I think it's true. That's the way it been. Wow. Yeah, that was bad. Yeah, you was bad. Let me answer this music, man. I'm gonna jump right into it. I just want to ask about just, how in the hell did you link up with P. Diddy?  When boys in her hood first came out, Kim is the one who took us to, Diddy, the lady he was married to at the time. Okay. Yeah, so from the beginning, y'all would just like to my. When y'all first came out with y'all, it was just you by yourself, or how did y'all, How did Kim find you? That's what, that's right. Nah, her and Block was kind of cool.  So she took it to Puff and that was the first time she ever took Puff some music. At all. So when he heard it and he knew that she thought it was dope, he just flew us out, he listened to it, and shit went from there. It was like that. How old were you? I was probably like 19, 20, I was like just turning 20. How did you feel?  I already was signed to Warner Brothers. Oh, damn. I was with Jazz and Faye. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, you were used to all of that, yeah. So I used to come to Dads all the time. Yeah, I had stayed fresh out here all of those shits, I was already. So he did that show love and all that. He was doing that on your stuff. Ladies and gentlemen. I was already on Trey and Slim Thug. You was already on it.  We was hot back then though, it was a hot time for you. It was just about to, y'all were just about to be. That's right, for to get real bold. How old were you when you started in this business? I was 18, I was like just turning 19. Oh, so everything just started going back to back to back. Yeah, it just happened. Cause at the time I came, the only, the only who was out then, it was like real music, like real, real music out then. So you just couldn't just rap to be rapping. You had to have some talent and you had to be, you had to be about what you were talking about. You know what I mean? Yeah.  It was a time when, this was a time when you had the Pharrell, you had, you had them brothers. What was them brothers up there? Pharrell and them two brothers, the, the, the, the, all that, this, this, this time, just going back in my mind, I know, I'm an old nigga. I think right back to it, it was not only them, it was some more. It was even, even Timberland was hiding, popping back then. I'm gonna be honest with you. Everybody was out then. Miss, miss Ellen, all that. It was a hard time. Outcast and all these people was out then, bro, like Dre was still doing it.  It was popping. The young blues, Lil Jon, all this. Them niggas were solid then. We was just about to take over.  This is where niggas live off of that era. You're right.  You know what I mean?  That's how big it was. It was real.  And it was a different kind of time. You know what I mean? Niggas was really trying to keep it real. No, no, no. It was, it was a real, it was a real movement back then. And I was just happy for the entrepreneurship. I'm a smart nigga. So I'm happy niggas getting money, niggas. For sure. Niggas is getting money now. Getting a whole lot of money. A whole lot of money. It wasn't getting that before. And that's why the old rappers really got mad the ones who didn't get to get it. Some of them old rappers, they called to it, the LLs and all that, they called to it. But a lot of them couldn't figure it out. Yeah, man. And you seen that too.  Like you gotta know how to get to the money. No matter what you doing, you gotta know how to get to the money and keep them all forgot your pocket. Yeah. By the way, how they doing it nowadays, compared to the way how they did it, everything was more hands-on back then. Now everything is more digital. Yeah, way more. So is it easier now than it was back then? Or is it harder? Of course it's easier. It's way more easier. But it's more watered down though. So you made it easy, but you took away what it was really meaning and what we're standing for. You know what I mean?  You just can't turn the phone on. But y'all need to say it. That's the one thing people be looking at us and be like, how y'all growing so fast and stuff like that. And I would always say, and I correct me if I'm wrong, but I would always say, I would always say, because we out here giving out cards, we out here talking to people, we still on that grind like what it used to be, but we still capitalizing on the social media and trying to get people online to do that. So why not do both? A lot of these younger people are just straight internet. They don't know how to talk to people face to face. We out there on the ground. But y'all, you come from it. That's what I am. You see what I'm saying? So that's all you know exactly, but you know. When I see that era, you talking about the BMF movement and all that stuff was going on. There's a lot of money being thrown around, bro. A lot of niggas talking that talk, but walking that walk. Niggas flying here, niggas flying there. Y'all got billboards everywhere. Niggas y'all was doing things. I'm still trying to get a billboard up a boss talk right now here. There was a lot of history, man. It was a lot of stuff going down. How was that Atlanta thing when the BMF movement was going on? Shit, it was like, what you see, what you hear. You know what I mean?  Is it true? All the like everything? Yeah, all these, yeah. Cause I don't see stuff on the movie. I don't know nothing else. It was different, bro. It's almost like if you didn't come to the Freak Nick, if you ain't never been to a Freak Nick then you would never know what it was actually like.  So it was like, I can say a whole lot of shit, but I'd rather just be like, hey man, it's what you heard. Because when I think about a movement like that, I think about when, especially when y'all out partying or going to clubs, if they walk in everybody, it's almost like you partner Red Sea, everybody that's back off and they just walk through. Is that how it was? Yeah, I mean, and see that's why, when people talk about BMF and all that, it's like, it was like a movement. It was like, you know what I mean? It wasn't just a BMF, it was, BMF was plugged with everybody. So it was like one big hood. So everybody liked them, it wasn't no hate. Man, it was love all day they had, man, all kind of love. Me, she's a real one. Home is a real one. And I ain't gonna do no flat home as a real one.  Yeah, yeah, no, I get it. It was easy to, you know what I mean? And you know his son, is his son just like him? I don't really know him, I ain't really. Young? I know he young, man. You know, when you're, I just don't like that some niggas do even know somebody else. Like a kid, these niggas, it's crazy. They got guns and he tight jeans, different, man. I don't know, I can't say that about them, because I don't know, I ain't know about them. No, I'm not talking about him, I'm not talking about young niggas in general. You know what I'm saying? Like, I know the young niggas now. Oh, for sure. They out here doing some stuff. Yeah, they wilding. And they got cameras now, so you see everything they doing when they do it. They wilding. And that's the crazy part though. Imagine having cameras back then, like they got now. It was, it's all. Who would have broke the internet? Of course you'd have broke the internet. Who would have broke the internet? Niggas wouldn't even been able to look.  That's why I'm so, I'd be trying to be cool and laid back, because it's like, man, this shit, man.  I don't know everybody think they doing like, what is it? But it's a lot of bad and good from that, because yeah, you would have broke the internet, but a lot more people would have been in prison a lot earlier. No. Because a lot of people putting stuff on the internet that shouldn't be on the internet, that's why they getting caught up. See, I don't think we would have ever did that much of the internet. Like, it wouldn't have been to the point where we filming our lives every day. Every day.  You couldn't even really take pictures of niggas then. Yeah. Niggas didn't even like cameras.  Yeah.  That's how they get paid. Now we would have never been doing that, but we could have used it to our, you know what I mean? You actually could have thought it could have, it could have been a camera.  It would have still been major. Yeah, yeah. Because even in music now, who was it that came on here recently? Somebody else came on here and was saying, and it was back in the days, he had put some stuff in his song, and that still got him caught up in his music even today. You know what I mean? When he went to his case, his case wasn't like that far back. Who was it that we had on the show the other day? But anyway, something he had said in his case, he had called up a couple of people on his, we just did that, I think it was Blood Rock. Okay. He said he had named a couple of people in a song that he did, but it was just- Yeah, they had used it against you.   Cause they do be doing it.  Yeah, yeah, yeah.  No, at all. You see what I'm saying? And these motherfucking folk be tripped. No, they will get you. But you gotta be careful. They gonna push that pressure. But they be doing the most- I don't know how it is in Atlanta, or in Georgia, but I've heard, because they say it's the worst one, bro. They got their own rules, their own law. Bro, and that whole thing right now, from what, you know, I'm on the outside looking in. They going to the internet. Nigga, the internet, they is not playing.  I wouldn't be dealing with that. Yes, they liking niggas up off the internet. Now, I'm talking about for real, they trying to give you real time off the internet.  But why don't people be smarter about it? Why people keep putting stuff on the internet, knowing that they're watching it, they can use this against you? I don't know. It's not even like what you may say. What I say when the rest of you say- Anything you say.  That nigga, yeah, he got, I don't fold buns right now. Anything you say. But we need to put that on social media. Anything you film and say can be used against you. Can and will be. Can and will be used against you in the court of law.  That's like a freedom of- Speech. Speech.   Going to shoot. Niggas are on the internet. On the internet with the gun. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm with you. I've seen it, yeah. I've seen it. I mean, we just had a case here where something happened in Big T Bizarre and it was bodies laying everywhere. They sent a picture. It was in real time. Man, he need to be on probation, man, and taking pictures of guns. Guns and weed and everything else. I see that. I've seen that. That's crazy. And the nigga, before all this internet stuff happening, if you was on probation or parole or anything, you wouldn't even get around that and then nobody see you. Now these niggas ain't got real buck with it, huh?  Who see them? They don't care. That's crazy, man.  Boy, them boys in the hood, you was the hood. How you come up with that?   Like, nigga was really not just rapping.  So it was like a whole another vibe and everybody getting money. And this was early on too, cause Jesus, they just, they hadn't, it was just getting started. Everybody was just getting started.  But you sung that, did you write that?  No, I was not writing. You didn't write that? No.  No, you just, you said you just say it. Yeah. I get what you're saying. So that's how you just came up with that. Yeah. And you one time, one time, like one time hit and you did it or you had to go over and over and over before you got it? No. Them boys got all that.    But you gotta hear the beat. You gotta hear the beat. Yeah, I'ma just vibe to the beat. And then go and do what I do, yeah.  Because at that time, niggas, niggas now, they be saying they don't write. They probably, they do. But at that time, everybody was right. And when I came, I literally was the only nigga that wasn't writing though. Like, Lil Wayne was writing. JZ was writing. Everybody was writing. JZ too? Everybody was writing. Damn. At that time. At that time, all the niggas were writing. Because it really just starting out because I'm sure that they're so experiencing it that they don't really have to write no more. They just jumping and do that thing. But when you started, you started like that. Yeah, that's what made them like, this little motherfucker coming in here. Natural. They telling me, they like, you ain't, where you need to paint, you need, no, I'm like, no, I'll give you the beat. That's what made the impact. Where do you get that from? Like, your music abilities, like, did it come down to your mama, daddy, somebody? It's just a gift, you know what I mean? I had some people in my family that had that gift too. My stepdad, he had a gift. You know what I'm saying? But he was more, he was a preacher.  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he still knew how to control her.  Yeah. So I saw a lot from there too. But at the same time, I got my own little sauce, man. Like, God bless me. He blessed that boy, man, but. Hey, man, listen, man, hey. So, man, when you think about the music and the history of the music, just the stuff that you done accomplished during that time when Niggles was really about what they say, how, what percentage of rap do you think in today's time is really spoken word, like the truth or bull crap, you know, or some myths? Is it, what percentage would you say? Is it 80, 20, is it? Oh, what you mean? What you mean, so if all the, out of all the people who rap them, is they really doing what they say? That's right, that's right. 92%. So it's 98% false. 99%. You can't say that, you can't say that because you're not in these people's daily lives, so you really don't know if they're doing what they're doing. I'm not saying all of them, some of them are faking. But you can't say none of us can really say unless you standing right by that person 24 seven. Listen, listen, honey. I think so.  How you gonna be doing all the ones who are doing it? Where they at? Yeah, they don't do it alone. Cause these, a lot of cameras out there. They in jail. I just think it's, it's. So ain't nobody doing anything. They, they, it's cap. Showing a whole, just they, they doing too much. Showing a whole bunch of money, they make names with the money now.  When you doing something for real, you don't want nobody to know. Trust me. What is a new generation? This generation, they do stuff and they want everybody to know it. I think the older generation is the ones who move like this new generation, they'll do stuff and they want you to know that they did it. Even if they, you see people will be shooting and killing people and they still trying to put it on social media. Man, it's, it's on a few, it's on a few of these little new cats who come from there. But you will see it, you will know it. You can tell you.  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You feel it? But it's also easy to tell when, boy you bullshitting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.  See, I'm just not one of the one who, I don't like doing little niggas like that. I don't like telling little niggas, yeah, do that, be like that. Yeah, when I know you lame. No, I want you to be lame. Yeah, yeah, be who you are, man. Yeah, man, be lame, man.     A little baby? Cuttin' the barbie for real.  I'm just a new guy that the one in the red told me about. Oh, Huncho. Huncho. You know him? Oh, I don't know. See, I don't know. He out of Atlanta, too.  Yeah, yeah, cause he knew me.  Okay, okay. He hard. See, it's good. See, you see some good, all right ones in there. Yeah, it's a couple of little young niggas. So you look at them, so does it matter if, so you like them because they're real? Like if they rapping like you. I gotta feel like you're laying bad in here, like you come from me. So if they're rapping and their rap is good, but you know that they fake, you don't like it.  But the song good. But the song good. I don't kill. Okay. That's why I like High Boy West. Shout out. I don't kill.  Whether it's true or not. Yeah, they'll just stop entertaining people. People don't want to hear that.  Okay. They will run out of the world.  End of tape.  Because some of these young kids are looking at it like it's real and they're following it because they think it's real and they're not looking at it as entertainment. They're not looking at it like they're watching a movie. Yeah.   I don't even want to focus on getting nobody to tell them that. I want to hear about that. I'm gonna go back to that Diddy thing a little bit more just the bad boy South. Did that really, is that something that, I know he started with like dealing with y'all and was it a really a movement or did that ever take? Yeah, he came up with bad boy South from us. That's when it started. So he went and signed Bal and G and all that. Okay, okay. That damn show did.  Yeah, yeah. And it was major. And is it true? And I think I heard you say this about writing for P Diddy, you wrote, what did you write? Yeah, I wrote like eight songs. What songs was it? On his press play. He did a press play album. I was with him for like six, seven months just writing and game game, you know what I mean? How was that?  I can't say that bad, but I'm just. But them boys were little, his kids and stuff. He had them kids then too, then. Yeah, yeah, they're my little partners.  Yeah, he's my little partner. All them down the waves in his head. Yeah, man, he's my little partner. Man. It was just different back then, man. Shit was just real, bro. Like if you had a vibe and you genuinely fought with somebody, then it wasn't about nothing. Yeah.  They called me like, hey, bro, I fought with you swag. Yeah, yeah. I came to chill with him.   I was like, this nigga, here hell, you started that song and boy, but then you came after GZ when he did the first verse and handed you a business thing. I was like, this nigga was howling them niggas. You wasn't playing with that nigga, man. No, it was. It was a hard song. It's just a hard song that you couldn't forget and it made a nigga feel like going to get some money. Exactly. What was I saying? I actually won an award for that song with him and that, with that girl named the little pussycat dog girl. Oh, I'm seeing her face, but I can't remember her name. She's pretty as fuck, too. The dark skin one? No, the little pretty one with the curly hair. Damn. They had a little song I forgot what that song was. And you got a war with that hoe. Damn. That's what I'm saying like it. You feel my war. And how do you feel about like the awards now and do you feel like the shows, man? Like it's a lot different than when y'all first came in the game.  Do you go to the award shows anymore? Hell no, I ain't been to an award show and probably like, probably about seven, eight years or something. I don't want to even deal with it no more. No, I don't want to see them for real. I see them, I see people with it. I don't want to see nobody, man.   But they still, they see you. They like, that's Jody. That's cool, but I just, I don't know why I'm not a fake kicker. Y'all, any of them niggas genuine? Because I heard you say that before. It seemed like they rubbed you the wrong way with that fakeness, bro. I already don't like people. So it ain't even done that. It ain't hard, right? Yeah. That's really crazy, but it's real. You was autistic, but you just put in a situation, right? I would put in a situation to like people. Because of your talent.   That's what they take real and not real to you. Yeah, that's all it is. Man, I listen to, how about like your new stuff though, the new music that you doing? What make you like, I think it was Gunner. You got a song called Gunner. Yeah, that whole go real hard. You said a few things on that thing, nigga, you was talking about with that real nigga. Cause I listen to that whole, you was from Chicago to Ohio or something like that. Oh, I'm being real. Nigga, you really was doing this. Is that a real song? Once upon a time. Yeah. Man. I like how you say it. Once upon a time, man.  Yeah, I like that song. I got a lawyer fan base, bro.   Just because I don't been there or what.  I done kicked it. How you supposed to kick it?  We don't, I'm not dead count. I don't kick it. I don't give them the whole world do that. I don't kick it like that, man. I feel like some room with y'all. No, no, no, I get it. You see what I'm saying? But I gotta fit in with that. No, nigga, I ain't fit in with none of that. None of that. So it's gonna be, it's gonna be weird.  It's like this. This is how it's gonna be. Yeah, it's weird because you not fit to just comply. I ain't doing nothing. I ain't going for nothing.   Let me ask you something. Then when you get the real love, was you down, was Diddy in Florida at this time or was Nigga in New York? He was in, when? When y'all did, when you were doing the music. Who was in Miami? In New York. Okay, I figure something. Who was both?  I haven't been in New York several times, but it was just, adjusting was tough for me. My granddad from New York. So you like it? You like it? You could live up there and stuff, versus family? No. That's what I'm saying. Why? I'm trying to figure out how Nigga like it. My cousin moved up there. Listen, man, I used to go out there in the summertime.     Dang it.   You know what's going on in the middle at all times. I need to be inside a house. Like, I need to be in a room, quiet. I can go to sleep. You can close your window.   Them motherfuckers be out there.   It is. I wouldn't move up there. I was up there. At least you stay healthy if you have to walk everywhere. You won't be big. Man, who's in the walk everywhere though? They walk everywhere.  In the meantime, I used to go by myself at first, but when I went with her, she's power walking out there, nigga, I'm not doing all that. I love it. I love it. I'm trying to get to the first pizza joint, nigga. I ain't trying to do all that. I don't care nothing about that. Yeah, that's a lot of walking. Them niggas love it though, after a while. They live it, bro. Yeah, I like it. They'll walk anywhere. The only thing I don't like about New York is the cold. That's it. That cold, that cold.  I used to think they were really mean, it's like, me, me, but could they hear, though? I don't know if I could do this, fuck. I don't know if I could do this. She tried to help her up and she come up and never said, thank you enough that she helped up that hole with like a zombie. She was like, damn, this is crazy, man.  She puts it back down, puts it on back down. You have to do this, yeah. No, I'm gonna, I always go back to the, I'm gonna go back to that, the Uptown song that you dissed GZM. What was that? Most time when niggas get together when they're young, we've seen it many times on this show where things don't work out. But what made you go that route? And then I seen, I think I seen Wacka Flock in that video too. But what made you? There was a lot of news in that motherfucker.  What, what? Shit had happened. Shit had happened, man. That's what you want to put it?  Man, nigga know I ain't going for nothing, man. I ain't going for nothing, never, at no time of the day. But do it, to put it on the song, though, basically. Yeah, I meant what I said. You just like, I'ma go and put it out here.  You feel what I'm saying? And that's what I was on.    Yeah, yeah. Just because I act like that and I be like that.  And I'm dope. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a rapper and whoop.  And I've always been like that. That's real.  These niggas know what's up with me, man. These niggas know this, but they know under one with this. They know. Yeah. Well, I looked at the track record line. I see it. I don't drop sauce on all these niggas. Yeah, yeah. You feel them?   But I'm so cool about it. It's like, okay, okay. Gonna do your thing. Yeah, I could see what's going on. Yeah, that would make me cool. But at the end of the day, for you to do that song, and then you basically just say, you know what, I'm gonna put it out there. You wouldn't, it wasn't no turning back. At that point you, I said what I said, it was what it is. So I get it. Yeah, you weren't cool at that point. You were ready to talk.  Listen, at that time, bro, I didn't even, I don't even do that. Yeah. So for me to do that, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's it. Shit had happened.  I don't figure it out. You believe what you wanna believe. You feel what I'm saying, but I like facts. Yeah, yeah. So they would, I'd be standing on, I'd be standing on like niggas be playing games out here. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? And you don't supposed to explain everything. But when you, did, at that time though, did you move, you moved like you always moved cause you was already straight? Dolo. When there were a whole bunch of niggas with you and all of that. Man, Dolo. I see them niggas with a thousand niggas with them when you see them. I done been in place of what these niggas be. I know them niggas gotta be scared or something. It's a hundred niggas with them. Damn, what? You done seen it, nigga. You done been on it. You done seen it. But listen, bro, they was like family to me too.  Meet them. That's family. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? So they be in this rap shit, niggas be taking beef the wrong way sometimes. Cause beef sometimes is misunderstandings. Just a little misunderstanding. See, when everybody get to putting their little two cents in shit, niggas start feeling like they need to feel like. Niggas starts dropping up.  Like niggas, they try to jump me. Some niggas try to jump. Niggas don't try to do something to me. You know what I mean? But I'm gonna do something. I do something to you. You gonna have to do something to me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause you have to walk around here. Cause yeah, I'm gonna do something. I come from that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't switch up and play like, I can't switch up and be another kind of way. How you go from being like that and then just turning to just not being like that. Now I'm like that forever. That's why you shouldn't put your business out there. You should just handle it behind closed door. You know, with partners over the phone or in face to face. And you just gotta handle your business. Right, don't put your business out there. You just gotta handle your business at all times. So I wanna know, what is your why for doing this music? Like why get into the music and then after doing it so long, because I know a lot of people after doing it so long, they see a lot of fakeness in the music industry. And they be like, man, I don't wanna do this no more. I can't deal with this because it's not real. Why keep doing this?  You can't, you can't. See, I got a crazy fan base.  You know what I mean? So I always try to put out one CD or your delight.  You see what I'm saying? I can't rap all year long. Yeah.  It's too many rappers. It's almost embarrassing now. Like y'all are embarrassing a nigga like. Do you think it's gonna change? No, it's gonna get worse. Listen, it's gonna be more rappers and more rappers and more rappers to come.  At our age, they seven years old rapping now.  Yeah, it's whole ruffin' to be rappers. Rappin' going nowhere. What made you do that? Who was you talking to on that song, Frog, man? Nobody. You just made, it was hard. Yeah, I don't be talking to nobody. I just be.  Keep going in on that frog situation, you know? Cause it is, but it made sense though. It's a lot of fraud. I think that's a lot of time. If you do something like that, you gotta be inspired from somewhere. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?  Yeah, so when you think about just the, do you even listen to music in the Texas scene now? Cause you in Atlanta, but you know what's going on.  Anything? Anywhere else outside of Atlanta? In Texas. Texas, Louisiana, right? I just be listening to y'all here cause I'm gonna go look for the nigga if you. I don't be knowing these niggas name. I don't be knowing these niggas. I might hear a song and be like, let's call it. Yeah, yeah. I don't be knowing them though. I ain't been studying them like that. You don't study them. But it's a couple of niggas that I like. But I just don't, you know, it don't be, it don't be moving me like that no more. Yeah, no, I get it.  They even if I wanna kill somebody. Man, I went down there. I'm gonna be real with you. For some reason in my mind, when I was in Atlanta last time, I didn't know that there was open carry down there. In my mind, I ain't thinkin' they can do that. Every nigga in the world got a gun in there. I'm like, every nigga down here. On their hip. On their hip, walking around that hole, they gonna blast some. And then how they try to do a nigga with a fit. Tell them they don't want you to get it. I don't fuck, I can't carry them. You got to have one. Too crazy. A lot of them niggas that might be still got an issue with just the ones that's out there carryin' them now. What kind of setup is that, y'all? That's a dangerous setup, bro. You can't do that. You know what I mean? So niggas can't get caught with a gun. No, they know that man can't get caught with a gun. Why? And you can't bear on nobody who have one. Exactly.   That's the crazy part because it's definitely going down, man. Let me ask you, is that strip club scene still like it was? When I come to Atlanta back in the day, I was that stroker to the light. They had the lights on in that hole. I'll never forget it. It might be a couple of strip clubs still poppin' and I don't go to strip clubs. I know, but back, I don't either. It been probably about, what, four, five years? Maybe four, five years. Oh, long down, because man, that maybe four, five years. Yeah, after a year. But still, when I went, I was down there, I see them niggas down there doin' a real strip club scene for real. Yes, of course. But don't hold, see, it's so many niggas, man. They hold on, put their stomach in their back, man.  It's crazy.  What they call it the B. What is it?  The B.B. what? The BWM? B.B.H. Huh? No, no, no.  I mean, they goin' surgery and doin' all this.   So you won't talk to a girl that do all that? I can't, sometimes you don't even know until she pull a shirt or she got them two dots on her head. You feel it? Like, it's sometimes. You see them scars. Yeah, you gon' know what goin' on. So once you see that, you not gonna call her a second time? I know, you can't, you can't turn on them, man. You can't, you can't turn on her. Hey, you trippin', man. Ain't too deep, man. You can't turn on them. But at the same time, like, why? You probably didn't even have to do it. You see what I'm sayin'?  You didn't even have to do that. And some of them are so addictive to it. Because once you start at it, they know that y'all men love it. Y'all ain't involved. Cause y'all want the beauty, the beauty, the beauty. Not me. Y'all know that sort of stuff. I would never let her do nothin' like that. Don't take nothin' away from what God made you. I'm telling you. I don't want nothin' else. Sometime it posted a look, how it's supposed to look. Look, nobody want all that. You know what I mean?  They just think they, they whole get 10,000. They want to go to Mr. Fix. They better try to do so. I think, I think, and this is us apathetically speaking, I think that a lot of women, when they started doin' it, they started doin' it because their boyfriends are, not only is it your boyfriend, y'all talkin' about, no, no, listen. Cause y'all men, I'm not sayin', you know. They gon' blame everything on the damn man. Excluded, maybe. But. Maybe? Hell, you mean. But, but I'm talkin' about, we'll go to the strip clubs. And most of these girls at the strip clubs had these things. Some of these women that was left at home, probably feelin' like they need to go get it, so y'all men don't have to go to the strip club. Here I am. Now they insecure, for one, some of these bitches don't even have to be like that because they are beautiful. That's right. They already be beautiful.  When you beautiful and you still don't think you fuckin' beautiful.  That is so true. And they do it all the time.   But you don't know, but at the same time, you don't know what they been going through.  And although they beautiful, that's trauma. But you oughta have some kind of sense in your head to know when you're that beautiful.  Like, some of them might need it. I'm gonna be ugly or not all the way right. You know what I mean? But somebody gonna be really beautiful. Why would you do that to yourself?  And then you just put yourself in that category.  Then they gon' act like they dead, like. You can't act like that, you dead to me. No, bitch, I figured that I already know what's goin' on. I don't like that. No. Because I heard stories, I've heard, I remember, I don't remember who told me this story. But a man livin' with a woman and he said, I've never even seen her natural hair before. She won't even let him see her natural hair. Like, some women are so insecure. You can't trust her. You can't trust her. Some women are so insecure.  Or who she is. Or who she is. Let me see behind. Like. Bitch, I don't care your opponent's hair. D.B. Hey, hey, look. I'm D.B. Damn. Hey, look, I'm D.B. I don't know if I'm fuckin' with D.B. I want to see it. Yeah, and I want you to be real with it. Come on with it. Hey, if I got a problem with it, I'ma just tell you I got a problem with it. I'ma just tell you I got a problem with it. I'ma just tell you I got a problem with it. Little opponent's hair. Man, I get it. But I respect it. But you go at the extension and you be good.  Now I respect it. But at least you did. You came real. You know what you got. At least you know what you got. Yeah, bitch, I know I got a little bit of opponent's hair. Man, I love it. Man, let me ask you about, man, you done tripped me out, man. If you had to do it all over again, man, let's be real. You was cold in basketball. Do you think that, what, do you ever think about that?  Think about like, damn, I coulda, I coulda been to the end of it. I coulda been to the end of it. This whole another level. Yeah, I know I could. NPA. So that's what I'm saying. Do you ever think about that? Not really, cause I don't regret it.  I had a good life, y'all.  You'da been more clean cut. You wouldn't have been as raw. No, you'da been with the white boys, man. I don't know if I ever could have like, that's why I started doing what I'm doing. Cause I don't know if I ever coulda just made it like that, because my attitude was just, You gonna be one of the more's got to know.  They just, they like that.  Yeah, he's like, bro, I don't know what I'm trying to tell him what to do, man. Do you still watch it? You still watch the, you be watching the ball game? Hell yeah. Who you think doing it? I like go and stay, I always like go and stay. I'm a direct fan though. Okay, okay.  I seen that nigga play with the phone.  I just wanna say that to you. They be known.  Yeah.  Yeah, that nigga seen them brutal. Yeah. You feel that? Goddamn, Dramon. Same. So. Then a little pool hard too. Yeah. Yeah. But he had like made it.   And he know that, he know that. It like, nigga might wanna come back and see you for something and that's what I be trippin' on for people do anything and they don't think before they do a lot of times, you better be ready for what you come out of nigga with. Yeah, yeah.   So, is Atlanta still, you know, they was, when y'all had it, y'all, you write, y'all killed the game. And right now the game is still going down, but we got the internet involved. Do you think that Atlanta is like, still like one of the spots where that music is comin' out of? Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm sayin'? So, let me ask you this, like, when you look down there now, I remember them niggas, man. It was a bunch of different niggas, man. It was the OJ, the Juice Man, the G, you, all you niggas, man. Is this still like, when you hit the block, is it like that, like, when you go out, everybody moved out of the mood. That's the new Tyler Perry got it to where everybody, the movie stars and everybody think they can go down there and hang out, you know what I'm sayin'? Yeah, they do. How different is it and how much effect did you have on it, cause you, when the boys started off when it wasn't just there yet?  You feel, you can see the impact, it's easy to see it. You see niggas everywhere, every day, niggas that might be anybody. You know, it's a new Hollywood.     You feel what I'm sayin'?  I don't make thoughts about the water boys when you said that, I'm not playin'. I don't know if they be bad, but they be out there outside with these bottles. Some of them here, you know what I mean? Some of them just tryin' to do something.   They're the one with the pants all the way down. Oh yeah, they got down. When they goin' to a car, they all, they all the way in that house. They lookin' at you, they tryin' to see what you got goin' on. You know what I mean? Them the one.  Because all they be needin' is more fuckin' to be out there. Man, come on, man. That's right. You feel him?  I like that, man. You know what I mean? Do you do that for a lot of young kids? You know what I'm sayin'?  Now when you do shit, nobody's supposed to know it. I get a kick out of that. I like that. You know what I mean? We need that.  More fuckin', they gotta go do somethin'. I don't kill to tell it. And say I did this and that.  Even for people in the industry and all that. I can literally say, hey, I don't know when that. Yeah, I took him and said, hey, come here. Did you ever get started? Did you ever, anybody ever start study you when you met him?  So that's kinda hard to... I haven't met everybody from the jump. No, but... I've met everybody. Like, who was the first person you really linked in with? It wasn't Pete did? No, I used to work with Jazzy. I know, but when he was... So you had Jazzy with all these other folks.  Jazzy was like one of the hottest... He was with Lil' John, with the hottest producers at that time. Did you do a thing with Jermaine Dupri or you didn't do nothin' with him? No, I don't think we... I met him a couple of times, but we never did nothin'. What was with, what's the other name? I used to work in Dallas Austin Studio. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. That's where I started it. So it was like me, Keri Hielsen, Lloyd, Sierra, you know what I mean? Polo the Done. Yeah, yeah. Like, B. Cox, Sean Garrett. That was my intermediate family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? So, dead alone, man.  You and him are still cool today?    You know, I don't know.  I don't wanna rock with that name. Yeah, that's why they don't like me because majority of them, that's what I thought.  Damn, yeah. You lame, you ain't really about what you say.   I gotta ask you this, I wouldn't be right if I didn't ask you, would you ever work, you and Jazzy, y'all ever workin' together again or anything? We done did a, we done did, I'ma tell you this, let me tell y'all, y'all might be the first, they might gonna get your whole lot of views. Okay. They gonna be the first time, I pretty much see. You giving me exclusive, y'all? Yeah, I'ma get you a real insight on this situation. Just to put clothes, like every week good, everything go good, it just like, in life sometimes shit happens, right? So, you know, I hadn't talked to him in a long time and he called me one time. Okay. And I hadn't talked to him in like five, six years. And I'm just keeping it real too, so you know with a little call he's like, what you calling me for?  That's the way I do it, cause you're acting like me.  But he was having a trap music. Release, what, I think it was a 10 year anniversary. Okay, okay.  So we ended up, he ended up calling me telling me, you know, he wanted to set a set, yeah, come to the set and set one.  Long time. So it's one of those. Yeah. Yeah. It didn't seem real. So it's just like, that's why I played the game, how I played the game. Yeah, yeah. I'm not worried about what you think about it. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or what y'all think? Yeah, yeah. I'm just a real one. Yeah. Like for real, no matter who it is. And every time you see me, I'm gonna be that real one that you know.  Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm talking about?  So a lot of time and it either gonna come to you or move away from it. Yeah, but you still gotta respect the game. Yeah, correct. You feel it? You gotta respect the game. So and it's always supposed to be love at the end of the day. Cause you know what I mean? More focus be done dead.  So when you came for the anniversary, all y'all came together. A lot of those people you hadn't seen in a long time, right?    What's up my nigga? Long time, I ain't seen you in 10 years nigga. Yeah, I ain't doin' all that. I ain't seen you in five years nigga.  Nah nigga, he over there, but it's cool. You know, I came out of respect of what we done, but I'm really not the one to even play no fake love type game. For what, but we grown. No, I get it. You know what I'm sayin'? You should wanna do that with nobody. So, again, did y'all make it something together? Have y'all done any new music?  They're just because it's a legacy, so I ain't gonna be the one to. Do you think a lot of times, like the boys in the hood and that whole group, do you think that you the reason why a lot of times it don't get back together and the whole thing don't start back blooming? Like if you sayin' I don't wanna be around certain niggas, you know what I mean? I don't wanna be around certain niggas. That ain't what it is. Just like, I don't wanna do it then. Cause you know a nigga a lot of hear that music again.  You know, I'm trying to get it back. You hear?   Nah nigga, you go hard with them niggas, man. You can't do that. Cause you say you do a lot of stuff for the fans, so if your fans come to you and be like, they want that, you tell them that you wouldn't do it. I'm so low.  You say you do it for your fans. Yes, I'm fuckin' anti-social. I don't want to be around nobody, man. You got kids? Yeah, I got two little girls, man. And one of them... They just like you? Nah, one of them, one of them we beef, cause I don't like her, don't mind me.     How old are they? She like three. One of them three, and one of them like 19. She just turned 19. Oh, you have a big old guy. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. In between. Yeah. Wow. That you know of. Nah, I ain't got no more babies. And if you say they ears, you lying. So if, for some reason, I always like to ask this question every now and again. But, you know, if God takes you, say tomorrow, whatever, God forbid, but how would you like for everybody to remember? You could, everybody needs to leave a legacy. Everybody wants to leave a legacy. How would you like everybody to remember you as? To remember me. That's a, that's a deep question.   I want to learn whatever you say.  You know what I mean? You should know what you leaving behind. That's what you living like it for. It's what you live for to, to lead it. You know what I mean? But I don't dwell on that. I don't care as long as my babies and the motherfuckers that love me and that I love, know who I am and got something good to say about me.  Cause some people don't think about it. Some people just live their life and never think about it till you actually say the question or put it to them. They're like, you know what?  So sometimes by thinking about it, like, you know what? I need to start to live my life a different way. So that I have a legacy. I don't want when I go, people just say, I work all the time. You know what I mean? I want people to say, well, I gave back. I did this. I helped that person. You know, stuff like that. People want to leave that legacy. You know it's so easy about leaving that kind of legacy is doing it. Everybody want that legacy. Everybody can have that legacy. But you gotta do it. Gotta find the time to do it.   I'm a good dude. You raised right. No, I'm being real. I was raised a little bit right. From long ago, you're gonna leave a good legacy. Yeah. So we all gonna help them with the same legacy. Man, it was a good man. Yeah.  Some niggas wasn't good. They still be saying it. That's just what they do at the funeral, I'm saying. That was a good nigga right there. But I'm like, that nigga wasn't worth it. Damn, I'll be sitting in the back. But you know what? You know what it's crazy? Because some people be certain way with certain people.  They ain't the best motherfucking in the world, but you the deal with over here. Exactly.  Nobody goes both ways. Because I've heard women in relationships be like, I can't stand him. He was a mess. He did, did, did, did it. But you move on to a different woman and all of a sudden it's like you a different person with that woman. Right, yeah. Is each person bringing- Yeah, she brought the best out of him. You couldn't. Yeah, I would do that. Yeah, you wasn't worth a damn. I'm maybe getting mad as ever. Like, why you couldn't be that way with me? Why you gotta be a- Yeah. They be doing that. Shout out to all my exes, you know. Let me go on and say that. You know what I'm saying? That's what happened. You know what she got me in all. Yeah, a nigga did what? Level up. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't let that be in the head. I didn't do it in my belly. Hey, give it. Hey, I applaud y'all.   It takes compromising. It's no easy task. A lot of sacrifices.  But listen, I'm gonna keep it real with both of y'all. I'm gonna keep it real, real, real with both of y'all. Do it. And y'all look nice together. It's where you get your colors on and everything. And let me tell you. Hey, look. Let me tell you something. I just, in this era, they had no y'all fight. In this era, I can't do that shit, y'all. Why?  But at the same time, y'all fattel. They're taking so good. It's possible you can find that person out there. But listen, you gotta think. She ain't preaching it. Listen, I wanna tell y'all, I wanna ask y'all a question. Everybody knows. I'm gonna ask the man, the marriage couple. For 20 years, a real question. Now, to this day, just a message from y'all, I was somebody that was close to y'all. Like, I'm y'all personal friend. Do you still think, I'm asking the both of y'all, that you can be with this person for the rest of your damn life?  Yeah. And y'all mean it. I mean it. Then y'all fight. Don't rid them cause of God, bro. You gotta understand the reason, though. You gotta let me answer this. Okay, you go first. Because it really don't have nothing to do with us as much as it got to do for me with the covenant promise that I made before God. So it don't really have nothing to do with what she's doing and what I'm doing. But one, when you think about standing before God for me and making that covenant, cause I made a vow to God years before I even met her that I was gonna do right. So I'm doubling down on this. So I just gotta stay focused enough to say, I'm not never gonna turn my back on God. That's more important than all that stuff. The relation for, yeah, we have ups and downs, but I never let a problem be more bigger than our marriage. So I, and plus the covenant bond I made before God. I never ever turn my back on that.  That's exactly what it is. That's tricky, cause you could end up miserable. Not really, no. Because you gotta know the steps. That's tricky. Listen, the steps of a good man is all about the Lord, bro. I'm the type of guy that I live by that code. So you gotta know that code. You gotta be done deep to even know the code that I live by. Most niggas is playing with it. They don't know the difference between Hebrew, or Ramic, Greek. They don't know about all the conosity of what I have dealt with to get to who I am today. So it's gonna be hard for a nigga to tap into what I deal with. I already know that. So when I deal with people, I already know I have to stay on a certain level just to communicate with them on the level that they own. Because, and it's not disrespecting just saying, I know already I tapped into something that was great when I dealt with God in my way. And so I'll never be able to explain it cause it's unexplainable, but I just know what I have between me and him is personal. And I told him by promise, if you give me this woman, when I wrote that letter. Yeah, you had to do right. I was gonna do right. Had to do right. So whatever she do, whatever, that's on her. But I gotta stand by that code, I made with God. That's amazing. Cause everything is spiritual. So a lot of times we get caught up in a flesh. Everybody does.  I pissed y'all. Or he pissed me off, or vice versa.  So, you know, we do something that we each other don't like, but at the end of the day, that's, you know, that's the flesh talking. So once you start to take yourself off of the flesh and be like, you know what, I'm not gonna let the devil defeat me today.  You know what works for you.  I send you a text. But you gotta resolve it. You can't go to bed angry. You have to learn how to resolve something. So we pray together and all kind of stuff, bro. My fam like I got kids, man, my son. And we pray together, my nigga. Let's see, that's something special. But I know y'all watching the world. We see the world. Like, what do I think? We wanna heal the world. That's conceptual. We wanna heal the world because that's the reason why we do this is because hopefully somebody's watching it who's going through something with their girlfriend, their wife, whatever, and realize that I don't need to walk out this door and say, you know what, screw you, whatever. I'm not coming back. Damn, the kids, why people don't stay married no more? Everybody want to get married. But why they don't stay married no more? Because they only want to good times. Nobody want to accept the bad times too. And it comes together. I just don't understand. But it's a lot of people that do stay married is just the people that you focus in on and not marry.  It's over a marriage like hell, you know what I'm saying? So it's just something to where, whatever you focus on, it comes to you.  You be like, can you see them break it? And you try and wreck it. Yes, bro.  You know what I mean? Even if you're gonna get divorced, they still would try to... Hang in there.  I want to jump on them. I want to go in their inbox. I want to call them, find out their numbers and be like, y'all can work this out. I wish I had their number. You know what I mean? Because you giving up on something like that. But it's special though. It may be major though, especially when you know what you got, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. It's major. I applaud it though. But thank you, man. Jody Breeze is big coming from you because I started to leave nigga 10 years ago. Nigga, I was gonna get up out of there, but I changed my mind. Nah, I don't do that. Okay. Don't do that. You came out.  You came out on top of me. Mr. Make-A-Hold and all that together. Nah, man, thank you so much. But that was a disgruntled woman in the background that's probably the best. Yep. Probably the best, I'm gonna say probably the best. Yeah. But man, we got two. Okay, top three all this all the time. I gotta get you out of there. Better live, any genre. Any genre, number one. Top three all the time. Yeah, any genre. Easy. Number one. Long Hill. Okay. That's fly. Love it. Somebody else did that too. Number two. Who it want this shit? Number two. Number two. Andre 3000. Oh, did you ever get to work with this dude and talk to him and been in the same studio? Yes. That's fly. His creativity has fought with me. That's fly. That's fly. I need him sitting right there. Uh oh, he's calling him.     Number three. Number three. This, the third one. The coldest one. How you want me to be? Like, wrap over it. It doesn't matter. This is your top three. Hold on, man. You're forgetting trouble. Top three. Call him on the phone. Number three, that third one. We're getting it done. They don't want to hit you right out. Number three. I'm trying to think. I got Long Hill. Yeah. I got Andre 3000. Now who's number three in that thing? Okay, it can be R&B. It can be any genre.  Number three. Man, just give me that.  And I always thought he was hard as a motherfucker. So he wanted hard. That nigga treat that. Hey!  Trick that. Trick that he was hard as hell. That nigga did his thing. Listen, man. It's nigga one of the hardest niggas ever to spit on before a nigga's talking about. Yeah, and you done had them conversations with him, right? What type of dude is Trick that? What type of dude? Yeah, I never got to talk to him. Somebody asked me if I... You ain't never talked to him. I ain't never met him. You would love Trick. Trick a good dude. I see him cooking. Man, Trick the real. The nigga like to cook. Listen, man, Trick. Trick the first rapper that actually came to get me and flew me out to Miami and like, look, bro, you that nigga. Like these niggas, hey, ooh, ooh, ooh. That's love, bro. We kicked it for like two, three days. Man, that's love. Yeah. He just seen something in you. Yeah, he the first rapper to be like, man, listen, man, come hang with me. This one, he was Trick Daddy. No, no, no. The real Trick.  This one, you could... This one, a lot of people said it was outside. It wasn't. It shouldn't come outside. Dead time. But Trick Daddy was that guy. I remember them time. Yeah, I'm just showing you a little some downsides. No, no, that's written there. Why love it? Nigga, what you talking about? It's a whole lot of motherfuckers though.  No, I definitely get it, man, but you named your top three, nigga. I'm Ryan Richard, nigga. I don't get Lauren Hill, nigga.  Stop playing, man. I want to stop playing with Lauren Hill because nigga, he said that Andre 3000 and that nigga, Trick Daddy, man. It went down just like that, man. But Jody Breed, we love you, bro. I hope this ain't your last time coming on Boss Talk 101.   I appreciate you. I appreciate you. I salute the both of you. Man, thank you so much, bro. I can tell you, we're gonna try to keep it going. Yeah, you're gonna put it up there.  Yeah. Give her a camera, yo. Where's she at? Bring it, bring that chair. Bring that chair, we need it because she got a couple of questions. She always got a couple of questions. Let her get a couple of questions. Crazy. Yeah, I'm just trying to tell them. They got a sale going on, but as in body words, got the candles too for free. I know, I'm by two games, two free. I already know it. Come on, man. This ain't a bad word, man. No, we're gonna talk about that. Come on, man. Hey, I feel like I'm being sit up.  We gonna, it's not, you feel like that? Yeah, with the hill going on right there. Dang. Fix it a little bit. What did you feel a little bit? Look. Close to you. Yeah, right there. You should just be relaxed. I am relaxed. Yeah. I'm always relaxed.   I feel like somebody's, y'all. Brittany Loso is in the building, y'all. She just stepped in. Really less so. You know, she's, she wanted them wild hair that we had come through. And I'll tell them what she about to ask. She got a little phone with her. She wanted to speak with Jodi Green for five seconds. Let's see what's going on. What's going on, Jodi? How you doing? I'm good, what's up? Hey, Jodi. Hey. Do the girls like, you know, I know. When they be like, they be hit you with that? Yeah. Uh-uh, Jodi. Yeah, they used to do it all the time. Oh, okay. How do you get the name Jodi Breeze? Man, to be real, it's really like my alter ego. It's your alter ego? What made you? What made you, what made you, this is actually. And Baby Boy was out too, you know, I did kind of take it home. Okay.   I'm like, you know what? Oh, you took my last name?  Oh, okay, yeah. You didn't know that, though. Oh, okay, you a G. Breeze Baby, that's what he's called me, yo. Okay, then the player? I don't know why I came up with that, though.  Uh, pretty much. Kind of, sort of. Pretty much.   Yeah. Yeah, cause you had to show the hair on the dem boys, so it's been growing over time.  You know I'm not gonna do it. You know I'm not gonna do it. I like that.  It's been a minute, I heard your new music and you still got the same cadence and you like the last of a dime, Breeze. What did that mean to you?  Okay, so you're not like going extinct and nothing, cause no, when it says last of a dime, Breeze, that's technically like extinction. Like the black rhino right now, ladies and gentlemen is right now. I just want people to know that I still got it. You know what I mean?  Okay, so we gonna break down some of your lyrics cause I like to know what the artist was thinking when they were saying certain things. So in this song, it's some boys in the hood sell anything for profit. Five in the morning on the corner clocking.  I'm not a morning person. So five o'clock in the morning on the corner, what advice would you give a hustler trying to get it that's not up at five? Like, that's not up at five? Yeah, cause I'm trying to make a morning get up at five. Five in the morning on the corner clocking. Like there's people five o'clock, like what about the second shift? I'm more of a one of 10. See, back then at them time, we ain't go to sleep. Oh, okay. So one for the up to a five. So you just getting up, but we still up. Yeah. Five in the morning, you know what I mean? I wouldn't be getting up, I'll be still up. So I would be up with y'all. So technically this is about me. No, it's not about you. Cause you went up already.  You went to sleep. Oh, back then. Yeah, that's true. Okay. Gotcha. So even if you ain't up at five, you still can be a hustler and get it. You can, but if you up at five, that mean you, you trying to get it. Y'all gotta get up early or don't go to sleep. Yeah. Don't go to sleep. I like that. Okay. Now you need to go to sleep though. You gotta go to sleep. All right. And I ain't come to play.   I don't mind just going ahead and buttering up to get where I go.  That's what they do. Yeah. It's like part of the game. I just don't, I just don't agree with it. That's okay.   All right. Nobody's.  Why we just can't just be straight forward. I'm just like, yeah. Yeah. Ain't nothing wrong with a little fluff though. Nah. Hey. How you doing? They were wrong with them. See you the type of motherfucker. What? Tell it. Hold on. See you the type of motherfucker that's causing some of the problems. Dang. I'm the problem. I'm the trouble. Ka, you just want to kiss the boo boo for no reason. You know what? You don't want to stand on there. You just want to just be okay with it. You want me to kiss it? Okay, fine. You going to give me this? Okay, fine. No. You know. No. Okay. Don't be like this.  So straight like that. Yeah. Breathe, you know. I better bring out, bring your breathing a little bit. Yeah. Don't be kissing, listen.    I believe it. I believe it. All right, all right, all right, all right. So, you know, in Atlanta, you're from Atlanta, right? No. Okay. We'll part, specifically. I'm from the South Side. South Side, okay. So Atlanta got a lot of stuff going on right now. What do you think about what's going on right now with the Rico charges, with the artists that's going like, you know, with Ghana right now, with, you know. I got my own problems. Okay. So you like... I got my own problems with the law. Yeah. So you're standing out the way. I got my own problems. Yeah. I mean, how did that go though? How does that go?   Well, let's see. Well, I'm telling you, I got a custody case going on with my daughter and that's what they knew into me. Wow. They went and took all the pictures out of my Instagram. What? And taken all the pictures of everything, old pictures and everything.  At all. You feel what I'm saying?  Now they want you to look like this. Yeah. No matter what you actually look like. Okay. They want you to look like this. They want you to look like what? What does that look like? A fucking... Like a mad, appreciate a mad man. And you can...  Yeah, you cute too.   But no, hey, but for real though, cause this is a serious topic. Yeah, this is. You know what I mean?  They make it way too hard for me and to be faultless. You feel what I'm saying? Cause you gotta fight too hard. Right. To take care of something. Which I admire.  I shouldn't have to go through that. Right. You feel what I'm saying? So it should be nothing for you to admire. It shouldn't be. It shouldn't be. It should already be in place. It should be normalized.  You know what I mean?  You gotta know how to keep your head in and not just be a...  Just keep it simple and be you. Be normal, man. Yeah. It's easy to be a star. It's easy to be whatever you're saying you is, but like what we doing, we doing? This is normal though. It is. Yeah. I agree.  That's for more... I could never do that. You know what I mean? Yeah.  But everybody living like the other way around. So it's like, man, as long as you be normal, you keep cool, man. How can you advise or encourage? Because a lot of people going through what you're going through now, a lot of men going through what you're going through, court cases, some men say, you know what, screw it, when my child reach 18 and I'll deal with my child at that time. I don't want to go through all this headache. But a lot of people, a lot of men do that.  I'm gonna say it too.  You going through it? I just got out of jail for 30 days. How was that? For kissing everybody out and... Contempt the court? Yup, telling these out for wife over listen, bro, you ain't finna tell me that.   She just turned three. She just turned three. But she didn't want to be there. Yeah, listen, it'd be these lame-ass women, bro.  They just do lame, but they want to make themselves look like... But this is my thing, though, because you're saying that now. You're saying that now three years later. But was that person still lame when you first was laying up in them?  You know what? I can't stand you.   Because they whole be battered and got down.  Women who do that are battered, man.  Man, you feel me? I hate to break in here. Did you get everything out of him? Because he got another interview. You gotta go to the show. Yeah. What time is it? We don't know. We've been sitting and talking. Okay, yeah, I know. It's 3.23. All right, we got what we got. All right, you don't understand what you had to say. You don't gave me the advice I need to have. Yeah. I'll talk to you, though. All right. But just don't be kissing on it. No. No. You know, it's just, I'm just like that.  I think what I do is already what I do, but they label it as, but I don't mind. What you got here? It wasn't a hill.  I don't know.  I get what I want to get. Man, you funny.  You can't give it that deal. Bring it on, so. Jody Breeze. All right, y'all are all into Jody Breeze and his business.  I don't want to put him on the radar because you know how y'all do. And now y'all gonna want to make him be our MCMs and stuff. No. Chocolate skin, smooth, too. Long hair, take care of his kids. I ain't never know what, like, these hoes know what's on me. Ooh. And you kind of look, you kind of look like, Lydani and Samson a little bit.  He's up running back. I don't even know. The football player. Yeah, you giving me, yeah. You like him a little bit? I always say I look like him. How? A little bit. I don't even know that nigga. I don't know.  Sandy, yeah, go, you come here. Fort Worth. But now. Oh, Lydani, I do know what you mean. He hard. Yeah, he hard. No, five minutes, 10 seconds. All right. What happened? We done? Yeah. All righty. It's over. They don't even know it yet. They like, where this nigga come from? See, I don't even know what you got.  Like, you know what I mean? I just was doing it to break customers in. Newly corrected. Let me correct you a little bit. We doing it. Uh-oh. I know that's right. Bro, you just started editing, man. You just started editing. She just started editing. This is a drill. I started editing. I did. That's right. Bro, we were, like, warming king. Ever since we were warming kings. I shoulda not just started editing. I shoulda not. We doing it. That's how they do it, Jones.  Sooner they get a little something, they just take it. We want to be brothers than them. No, we take it and make it better. That's what we do. Yeah. Give us that sperm. We gonna take it and make it better. Give us a house. We gonna take it and make it better. Right here. Right to the end. No. Right to the end. I do like that. I like that stuff. Hey, Monty Moses, man, come here for a second. I want people to see that you're still on the show because you stand behind all this stuff. They gonna see it in the previews. Here it is. Here it is. Listen, now on this subject, you can go on to it. You can't do that. I don't allow a subject, so you can't do that. Now on this subject, bro, but you know that. Say it, man. Nah, but we just want to show love to Jody Breeze and he in the city. And I'm gonna be honest with y'all. Ain't nobody gonna do what we doing. We got the coldest nigga in here right now. We for the play game with y'all, nigga. We coming up, nigga. Y'all niggas in trouble, nigga. We done linked up, nigga. It's going down. I'm gonna get his number, too, nigga. And next time you know, I'm flying out there. He gonna show you. South side. We pulling up. Damn right, man. We gonna show y'all what's going on. Okay, huh? I like your little hat, too. All ready. Y'all will come with a little salsa and a little splash. No, I'm saying I come here looking different every time. I ain't know who she was coming here looking real different the other day and what we going on. I like to have diversity. So you could feel like you were more than one person. That's what that is. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. Check it, man. Hey, man. Listen, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the bosses talk. And we out.


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