. Aye. Opposed? Abstain? One abstention and absent one. So it's 11, zero, one and one. All right. Yes. I'm sorry, Lynn. I should have said this earlier. I was pulling up that email again. If we could just have the minutes reflect since it wasn't in the town manager's report that the date that Nancy Schroeder had started serving on the trust was August 14th, 2017, then it's like we covered everything that's normally in the report and it's... Thank you. That would be great. Yes. I just would like to acknowledge the hard work of the town manager and the people in his office and also the resident advisory committee who have worked very hard over the past couple of months. They've given my committee a lot to do, but we're very grateful and I'm appreciative of the hard work. I just want to recommend them for that. Thank you. I have to say I was pretty impressed by how many came forward. All right. The second and under appointments is clerk of the council at this point, Athena O'Keeffe is presently serving in a temporary row, as her fiddle sign says. So there may be a step I missed in here and if I did, I am totally apologetic. What I did do was review the sections of the charter we did advertise a vacancy, though we did not advertise quote a position since we are allowed to hire a town employee and we honestly do not have sufficient funds to hire a full, full-time new total position. We developed a draft much to thank you Margaret for this of the accurate job description. It is a draft. Before two weeks ago, Mr. Bachman appointed Athena and also appointed another member of the town as the clerk of the clerk, town clerk as well. But for the town clerk of the council, it was Athena. I've met with Athena. I've talked with her about her interest in the position and I have to say what most impressed me is some of her innovative thoughts about how to help the council in our own visibility and coordination, working both with us and with the rest of the staff who has been supporting us as well. This position is not going to be shared as the town clerk position, which I think Margaret did an amazing job doing both and she would probably tell you never to do it again. So let's have questions at this time and then we'll see whether we go through a motion. Yes, Dorothy. So what percentage position is it? It's a very good question. We at this point estimated to be somewhere around 60% but it fluctuates and it fluctuates for example, I'll just give you an example. This is our fifth Monday night meeting in a row. That's not normal, we hope. And so that makes for instance the month of June pretty exceptional with regard to number of meetings and yet other months don't have as many and sometimes the issues are not as complicated and so forth but it's somewhere around 60%. So is the rest of Athena's time, will it be a town clerk? That is really something to be worked out with the town manager because there's also an issue of the position not being a union position versus what other responsibilities. So that has to be worked out. That's why their charge reads the way it does. I also wanna thank Alyssa for making sure that we did the statement that we did that consisted of advertising a vacancy because we had to have 14 days on that I believe. Yes. So then I'll take the blame as well because I don't think that what we put up was adequate notice to comply with 6.2. I think any plain English reading of 6.2 would indicate a vacancy, some form of job application that someone could put in that a position was going to be filled in XYZ time as opposed to what we ended up putting up which was a very fine press release that talked about the work that Margaret had done for us and we put at the end that it qualified for that but I'm not really feeling it but that's a conversation we can all have and this could possibly be put down to a beginner's luck sort of thing as we're trying to sort this out. Along those same lines, I think maybe some of this got copied and pasted from a previous job description in that item six says manages staff assigned to prepare minutes of committee meetings and I think all of us on council committees would be thrilled to know that there were staff assigned to prepare minutes of committee meetings but since those staff do not currently exist I'm wondering what that means. So I'm going to turn to Mr. Backeman because we've been having this conversation, please. So it's our intention to have staff and we've actually had this conversation with the school superintendent who has a similar need to do minutes for your committees. It would not be, other than the full council meeting would not be Athena doing those minutes, it would be someone else who would be responsible for those minutes but we understand the need to have some standalone person or people who would be dedicated to doing the minutes for you so you're not trying to work as a committee member and do minutes at the same time. So we've looked at some shared positions with the school superintendent because he is experiencing similar demands on his staff and our intent is to have something set up as soon as we can, either part-time positions who will take on a committee who will do the minutes for you or one person who'll do multiple committees. It's kind of important for us to understand the rhythm of the committee structure so we can talk to people about what the time commitment is expected to be. I think we're getting a sense of that now and I think that will help us recruit people to do this job. And so the reason, so the clerk would be responsible for making sure the minutes were done in a timely manner, were posted appropriately. These would be minutes takers but the clerk of the council would be responsible for making sure all the minutes were up to code basically and distributed for approval and then posted online as required. And they would coordinate to make sure that every meeting was covered, okay. Is there another question? Yes. So aside from the notice for crime on a 6.2, my other question, and again, this is brand new to us, is you had indicated at a previous meeting that you would talk to the town manager about this and you obviously did because there's a huge amount of information here, including a position description. I guess I'm trying to understand since as a select board member, the only person I ever got to hire was the town manager. As a school committee member, I had a couple more choices. As a town counselor now, we're doing this hiring. What's, since we only have two people, one in a part of a person that we own, it's not like we need like a personnel committee per se, but how does this work? Does everybody just feel good about, okay, good, there's a job description, we're done with it? Or is there something that I don't want to hold up this process necessarily? But if she were to ever leave us, what's our read on this? I'm just trying to get a sense from the council what our shared expectation is here. Let me add to that. I also have raised the issue of how do we evaluate and feel that that's something where we all have things that we might add to the evaluation. I think it might be done a bit differently than the town manager. Thoughts? Dorothy? Can you clarify? What are we talking about right at this exact moment? My question was, is the town council just accept that somebody wrote a position description for the only other person we hire other than the town manager and we're fine with that. I'm assuming we don't need a committee to look at it, but can we move forward with this now? Do we feel the need to study it more? We did get a chance to read it since Friday. It's just new, right? It's a new thing for us. Things can be changed. I mean, we're going ahead and we're trying to find somebody and hire somebody. Once you see people, sometimes you decide to change the description. I don't think that a description is a legal contract. Yes? So I think it's important that we're not hiring someone. You're using, under the charter, you have the provision to appoint someone who may be an existing town employee. So that's the action under the charter that you're acting under, that you're appointing someone who's an existing town employee, just like you did with Margaret when she was an existing town employee. If this were a new position that you were hiring for, it would go through a much more rigorous hiring process with a posting advertisement. We'd go through, the council would need to decide how it was going to interview people, review resumes, do all those types of things. That's not what this is. This is, the charter allows you to appoint someone who's an existing town employee. Now, when you appoint someone who's an existing town employee, there are things to work out. We were fortunate at the last time when we hired, the town clerk was hired with the premonition that the council might use the town clerk as the clerk to the council. We didn't know back in July of a year ago when we hired Margaret that you would actually appoint her, but we had laid the groundwork saying, if you get hired, and I interviewed all the people, I said, if you get hired, you may be appointed by the council, so be prepared for that. That's where we'd like it to go. We think it made sense. I think our experience has been that the clerk serving as both the clerk and the council, I think Margaret did a terrific job on it. I don't know if anybody else could have. She's a unique character. And so her advice to us, and I think was to separate those positions somewhat, but whether it's a clerk to the council is a full-time job or not. If it was a full-time standalone job, then we would advertise it and go through the interview process. We think it's a lot more than what, it's a lot more than what we allocated for Margaret to do it. So I think that that's the idea today is you would tell me, go and make this happen. I would meet with the union, talk about the position. The clerk to the clerk of the council has to be able to go into executive sessions and take minutes so it can't be part of the union. So we negotiate the position, that this role out of the union, but also maintain other responsibilities that the clerk could have currently. So I think that there's a little work to be done in discussing with the town clerk and with the union. I think we can make it happen. We've had some preliminary discussions. I think we'll be on the same page and it'll work out okay. That's okay, thank you. Additional questions? Dorsey? Does it seem like this is something that should be going through the OCA committee as per the charge? That was something actually I did discuss with Alyssa, the town manager discussed with Alyssa and it was felt that it was not, but I'm... The charge seems to say that it is. Make recommendations of the town council regarding all appointments by the town council. Serve as the committee to review and advise the town council on all candidates forwarded by the town manager for employment as department heads. Not sure that's what it is, but just wondering why it isn't going through OCA. Alyssa? We had a five minute conversation standing here. When we were trying to figure this out, this was not a big elaborate thing. This was a, oh my gosh, we have a whole bunch of dominoes falling and can we get this up so that we would be able to capture the person we wanted to do the work. I'm not sure what would go through OCA because this is not a committee appointment. This is a town council appointment, not a higher as you point out. It is perhaps the only viable unicorn of all the unicorns we've discussed in terms of being different. Then it literally is different than everything else. And I think that I feel more comfortable with the notice that we used given again that it's not a full hiring process, right? That's not what you would do when you talks about the typical because of course, one part of the charter talks about the fact that this person works for the council. A different part of the charter says whenever a vacancy occurs or is about to occur in any town office or town employment, not talking about the department heads, but just literally anybody who can work here whenever we have a vacancy. That's a 14 days vacancy is kind of a funky word associated with this in terms of our real ability to appoint a sign working with the town manager. So I apologize if I didn't ever take it back to OCA. I literally waited to see what was gonna happen next. I was actually quite amazed that such a full package was put before us this weekend to look at tonight. And so that was why I just wanted to make sure everybody was good with where we were. And like I said, I couldn't see a personnel committee coming out of this or OCA necessarily having any role in this because it's not the same as committee appointment and it's not something we're confirming of the town managers. It's a suggestion just like it was a arguably, I would say a very strong suggestion that we have Margaret as the clerk of the council because that was the condition that he hired her under. But this seems like a really good fit and everything. And so I'm not arguing about the person at all. I'm just wanna make sure we're all on the same page for our expectations. Evan. So the OCA charge make recommendations to the town council regarding all appointments by the town council, specifically references Charter Section 2.9. And of course the very first thing listed under Charter Section 2.9 is appointment of clerk of the council. So it actually does seem like it's in OCA's charge. That said, of course, it's always within the ability of the town council as a whole to waive that. And so if the council, I would argue this maybe should have gone to OCA. But if the council feels as though, given the situation we're in, there is no need for OCA review where OCA cannot provide something meaningful to this discussion beyond what we've already had, then it's fully within the right of the council to say, we're not going to have OCA look at this. But I would imagine it would have to be a formal vote of the council. Sarah. So actually, when I saw this, one of the things that I thought was that it did fit under OCA, not that we want to take on anything. So two points I would make on that is one of the things that was brought up is that perhaps we want to take another, the council itself would like to maybe review what we're putting in for a job description because that might evolve. So that might be something that OCA could take up the initial work of and could also do some of the looking at candidates and similar to the process that we already have and then bring it to town council. It could be that that's just an unnecessary step, but then again, I'm looking at consistency. So to me, it seems consistent. And the other thing is that, while I incredibly respect the institutional knowledge, Councillor Brewer, I do think that maybe some decisions I think is something that would be good for all of us to talk about while taking into consideration that some people know way more about how things have worked and do work well. I would just make that point. Yes. Given that this is an interim position that we're talking about and we've had direct, no, we're talking about a pointing car as the, given that. She presently holds the interim position. Right, yes. Thank you for the correction. I'm tired. We have worked with Athena. We've seen the quality of her work and I feel that this is one of the few times that we could comfortably bypass OCA. Kathy. I just want to say real briefly that people may or may not remember, but when we adopted the rules of procedure, we have a whole section called the clerk of the council, which has a job description in it. And this was actually at the request of Margaret because we'd said, what does the president do? What do other people do? So she's, and I just cross-checked that the brief description matches this. So we did spend time thinking about, aside from taking minutes, what was the role of the clerk and we spelled it out. Not to say this is perfect, but it's in writing and we adopted it. Okay. Sarah, did you have your hand up? So I was just going to make the clarifying point that I didn't mean that we, that OCA would need to take it up right now. I mean, I'm just saying that if it's something that the council decides that it just, it was brought up that maybe the council would want to review or change or in the future, it could be something that does fit with the OCA charge. But obviously I don't think we need to do it right now. Is there any other comment? Yes, ma'am, did you? So while we're talking about this, I'll always put a plug in for GOL. In terms of job descriptions, you could argue that GOL's charge is where the job description of the clerk of the council falls because it relates to organization of the council. So I'm just going to put that there. I do want to say that I'm comfortable avoiding the OCA process on this one or skipping it. We already, as a council, have sort of stated that the current OCA process is not working for appointments. And so right now OCA doesn't really have a process to go through trying to figure out how to appoint or recommend an appointment for the council, number one. So I don't believe OCA may be ready to do that right now for the clerk of the council position. And the second one I wanted to make is when I think back to when the OCA charge was adopted, I don't recall considering that clerk of the council or the town manager would be automatically put to the OCA committee. And so I'm not sure this council made a actual decision when passing that charge to say yes, OCA gets the town manager appointment. Yes, OCA gets the clerk of the council appointment in terms of who the recommendations come from. Maybe I'm remembering things wrong, but I don't think we had that conscious decision being made versus just talking about reviewing town manager appointments and then the committee appointments that we have to make. So I think that's a discussion to have later, but I would argue tonight to go ahead and appoint Athena as our clerk of the council and maybe then put on a future agenda. I don't make real discussion about the OCA charge as it stands right now about a whole bunch of things similar to the discussions we've had about the GOL charge, another one that was done really early on. Maybe it's time to have one about the OCA charge. Any further discussion? Yes, Evan. So again, I do just want to clarify that the council did when we wrote the charge, actively put in the reference to charter section 2.9, which includes clerk of the council town manager, appointment of the town manager is 3.1. So that charter reference appears nowhere in the OCA charge. So I don't think there's any assumption that OCA would weigh in on the town manager hiring a town manager, but it does feel to me as if the council actively put in a reference to a charter section, which is fairly brief relative to some sections of the charter that we'd expect that OCA would weigh in on any of these. That said, I don't envision that OCA would use the process that we have been using for committee appointments for this appointment. And so I think our advisory role would be fairly limited. I think in the future, it would make sense for OCA to be involved beyond just one member consulted individually. But in this situation we're in right now, unless I hear otherwise from my committee members and I hope I hear something from them, I don't necessarily know what OCA could offer additionally in this moment. Okay, we need a motion. Mandy Jo. I move per section 2.9a of the charter to appoint Athena O'Keefe an existing employee of the town as clerk of the council effective July 1, 2019, further to instruct the town manager to take the necessary steps to ensure that the council's decision is carried out. Is there a second? I second it. Any further discussion? All those in favor raise your hand and stay high. Opposed? All right, well just on that chance, Athena come forward please. We have to swear her in. May I ask a follow up to that? Please. So perhaps given that there are little things that need to be worked out in terms of how exactly this position is gonna work from the town manager, which he will report back to us. Once we have that information and then we take that plus what was in rules plus what the charge says then Oka could have a conversation about where we fit in this process perhaps separate from our full charge and we're looking at the whole thing but to be able to put all those piece parts together just so that we don't lose track because like we said, we worked on the rules with Margaret specifically for this. Now we have a job description. Now we may have a little tweaking that happens associated with town manager's part and then Oka could look at that and report back where we are coming next if that sounds reasonable. Okay. Committee reports. Many of these we have taken care of tonight because they have led to actions but very quickly audit. Nothing. By-law review. Evan. Nothing new. Community resource committee. No report. Goals at hot none. Finance committee. We will be taking up the percent for arts at our next meeting matter referred to us. We have not had the opportunity to really discuss it and we did have a discussion at our last meeting with the chair of Oka about the appointment process for resident members of the committee but that's turned back over to open. I understand Oka will report on that in this next meeting. Let's give something to say now. Evan. Oka did vote today to recommend three people to be the non-voting resident members of the finance committee. You can expect to see a written report on those for our next meeting. An emotion. Okay. G.O.L. I just want to point out the report we have 45 days to report on the rules and so that is up soon. So we, on what was referred to us from the rules committee and the council, our report says we're still working on it. We hope to have draft revised rules by the 22nd and then the other stuff will continue on. Okay. Oka. Okay, okay. We're on to approval of minutes. We're going to do a joint thing on June, minutes for June 17th and minutes for June 24th. The motion is to approve the minutes of the June 17th town council meeting and the minutes of the June 24th, 2019 open meeting of the residents as presented. Is there a motion? Second. Further discussion? Changes? Corrections?  Opposed, abstain, and absent. So there's one abstention and one absent. So it's 11-0-1-1. All right. Town managers report. Thank you. Happy new fiscal year. I know everybody's a little groggy from fiscal New Year's Eve. So we have a lot of searches going on right now for the director of senior services, for the town clerk, and I will have a recommendation for the director of senior services that I will deliver to you on Monday, July 8th. That will, I talked with the chair of Oka this morning about the timing of that. That allows the council to be able to weigh in prior to the 14-day expiration of the department head appointment. So we have a candidate. I've made a job offer contingent on the review by the town council. And the search for the town clerk is ongoing. We basically just revved up the machine that was happening a year ago, and they're up and searching for the town clerk for that as well. The third position that you may have seen is David Burgess, who is the principal assessor who's retired, but his intention and my desire is for him to come back on a part-time basis to fulfill the function of the principal assessor on a part-time basis, which he has permitted to do under the retirement laws. He had intended to work for another year or so, and due to some other situations, he decided to retire now, but wanted to continue working, and this will give us some other opportunities to transition, give us a little bit longer glide path into a long-term transition. The Independence Day is the next big event, which is on July 4th, obviously, and South Amherst Common has a major event, which is always a terrific event that people like to go to. The fireworks and the festivities at UMass will be a little bit different this year because where we normally have the event behind the stadium is a construction site now getting ready for a new indoor football field, and we will be, if you are on University Drive, this will be to the left of the stadium. The thing that will, the two major changes this year is there will be a beer garden that's available, much like the taste of Amherst. This is located in the town of Hadley, so they're the permitting authority for this, and the university owns the property, and there will also, the town of Hadley and the state police will be closing Route 116 from about six o'clock until about 10 o'clock. They have experienced previously for the Amherst fireworks that a lot of people would like to stop on Route 116 and observe the fireworks, and the police found that that was a potentially dangerous situation in terms of cars and pedestrians mixing on a road that's a divided highway, so they will be closing that. That will cause some inconvenience to people, but they will be, we've added police direction officers, both in Amherst and in other part in Hadley as well, to help people get around that situation. This morning, I had the privilege of having the town clerk swear on three new firefighters who have started work today, and that's really good news for us. We have had some unexpected retirements or resignations, and when that happens unexpectedly, it creates a crunch for our firefighters because it takes about 10 to 12 weeks to train a new firefighter. We had already been in process for hiring these officers, these firefighters, and we had a list that we could choose from, so this is opportunist, opportune, they won't be fully available as a standalone firefighter for a couple months though, unfortunately, but they start their training today, they were out there doing all the things that they were supposed to be doing, learning to drive our ambulances and things like that. So good news, three new firefighters on duty as of today. The Ranked Choice Voting Committee is having its first meeting next Tuesday, and you're all invited to come if you'd like, but it's a pretty strong group that will be organizing itself, the town clerk, the temporary town clerk is a member and will be managing that process, and so that meeting's been posted and they have a pretty big task ahead of them because they have a deadline to meet, and I think that they have a lot of people who have experience in Ranked Choice Voting, there's also a discussion on Ranked Choice Voting later in July at UMass, which I'll share with you, so if you're interested in that, people can go through that, that's open to the public as well. We've done a lot of appointments, but we still have vacancies, so we're going to sort of recognize where we are in terms of where our vacancies are, we're gonna make another push for advertising to the public, say here's where we still need people, for instance, we talked about participatory budgeting commission, public art commission, so we'll go out and sort of advertise to folks again to say we still need you, and we often have vacancies throughout the year, so it's always good to have a pool of candidates who are expressing interest in serving. The Kendrick Park, the Planning Department had a public meeting to explore the idea of having a playground in Kendrick Park, this is something that the town had looked at previously, we intend to go for a grant to pay for this playground, and we're hopeful that it'll be funded, it's the only way this park at this point and time would move forward is that we'd receive the sizeable grant for it. One of the things I've heard multiple times from people as we talked mostly about the North Common was the lack of play space for young children downtown, people come downtown with their children to get a slice of pizza or get ice cream, and there's no place really to go for them to expend some energy, and so that's something we hope to address. Station Road Bridge, we've, if you've been down there, we bought a bridge, it's sitting there, we have poured the concrete, and the way it works is the concrete has to cure, it has to, they pour the concrete and then they pour some test cylinders, and then they take out the test cylinders and they put that, they subject that to pressure every week until it can survive 4,000 PSI, and so they tested one today and it broke at less than four, they tested, they test five at a time, they tested less than 4,000, so next Monday they'll test again, they're fairly confident that these will test, they will all survive the 4,000 PSI test, and in that case, we have everyone lined up next week to install the bridge, which requires a crane to do the paving that allows people to get up over the bridge to install the guardrails and to install signs, so whether permitting and are these concrete cylinders surviving will be doing that next week and that should take about four or five days to do, so we're optimistic that that will move forward pretty soon. The Puffer's Pond is closed as of today, they tested the water again, we will know tomorrow if we're allowed to reopen, this happens periodically during the summer, it's usually because of runoff, it's not because of human behavior, it's because of heavy rains and runoff, and this weekend wasn't helpful necessarily, but because of a heavier than normal concentration of E. Coli, we closed the both sides of the Puffer's Pond. The traffic has, people have been learning about the new one-way traffic, we've added signage to help guide people, we've had police patrols up there and more as an educational tool, and so I think that that's gonna work out pretty well, people are getting used to the new parking alignment, they're taking advantage of the nose-in parking, which increases the number of cars that we can have on the roadway, so I think that's all working pretty well. I think fourth of July weekend will be a real test, especially because it's supposed to be hot, there'll be a lot of people coming up, it's a place that a lot of folks come from over Western Mass to take advantage of Puffer's Pond. So it's very popular and we have added patrols up there from police and from our conservation officers, and we have one of our parking enforcement officers swinging up there periodically as well, and also working the beach a little bit more than we have in the past, to make sure that people are abiding by the rules that are at Puffer's Pond in terms of no alcohol and things like that. So that's what I want to report on. Questions, yes. Amanda Jo. Do we have a timeline on when ops renovations might be done? What, Groth Park? We started to see some vertical, it starts going up. I don't have the timeline on that. It's probably a couple of weeks, so. Darcy. I just want to say that I really looked forward to the town manager report and enjoy it very much and think it's one of the most valuable documents that we have. I've been sharing it at my district meetings because it just tells everything. And I have one question and a comment. The comment is that I did like it back when you had a section that was entitled sustainability. You always have stuff in there about sustainability, but I think it would be great to have that label. And I also wanted to ask you about the contract with Amherst Community Television and that you said in the report that the contract was going to be adjusted as per needs of the town council. And I just wondered if that's more detail about that. Sure. So we did have a meeting with members of the board of directors and the director of Amherst Media. Basically, because the current contract had provisioned it that allowed us to reopen it if we changed our form of government because it calls for a coverage of the select board and things like that. And we want to reach clarity with them about what meetings that they are actually going to be covering and what their capacity was to cover them. And I think it's a very productive meeting. Where it stands now is the balls in my court where I'm going to make changes to the contract, send it over to Amherst Media. They're going to review the changes. They're pretty straightforward instead of where it says select board. Or town meeting, it will say town council. We want to call out the public forums that are required in the charter. All the things that are required in the charter, we want to make sure that it's in the contract that they're going to cover. So there's no question going forward. So they're not covering the committees of the council? No, they have a hard time covering daytime meetings because they rely a lot on volunteers to record the meetings. That currently they're required to cover the finance committee meetings. That's the only thing that's in the contract itself. If we were to contract for additional meetings or committees, we probably would probably look for some compensation on that. One more. Yes, go ahead. So is there a way that we could get some kind of agreement with the IT department about how fast they can get up the videos of the council meetings? So we talked about that as well with Amherst Media and about who can do that the best. I mean, Amherst Media has the best equipment to put in the taglines that you want to see. So you know what you're watching and things like that. It takes several hours for them to do one of those things. So after there's a meeting, it gets downloaded. It takes time for them to do it. And they've laid off a person in their recently. So it's just about staff capacity at their level in terms of being able to turn it around. They prioritize this meeting and being able to turn this one around as quickly as possible. Committee meetings are lower priority, quite frankly. Evan. So regarding Session Road Bridge, obviously we got a little bit behind what we were hoping for for the temporary bridge. I'm looking at the permanent bridge schedule which has advertised bid award beginning August 19th. Is the delay for the temporary bridge also pushing back the permanent bridge schedule? Or is there an anticipation that this will stay on schedule? Right. The intent is not to move on the permanent bridge until we get state funding. So we'll be putting funds requests in and the state bridge program is a little messed up, now, honestly. And so once they are looking for applications again, we'll be putting in for this bridge. Any other questions at this time? Alyssa? This almost falls under unanticipated and I'm actually gonna look to our new OCA chair for this, but we just heard a report much to my surprise that we are going to be getting a department head appointment that has the 14 day clock and OCA doesn't have a meeting between now and the 22nd. And so that means it wouldn't be possible for OCA to give you a recommendation on that except if we meet that morning, the 22nd. And so I guess I would ask, although I would defer to you, my initial instinct would be to ask if the town council would, we're not gonna have a written report for you. There's no chance of that. We're not gonna be able to schedule an additional meeting based on it coming out next week. And so what is the town council's pleasure associated with? My assumption is that an oral report will suffice. We literally won't have time to talk about it at all until that morning for the first time. That's fine. We will have the town managers memo because that comes to all of us. And so it's not as if we'll be working with no knowledge. So what we will ask for is an oral summary of OCA's discussion and your recommendation because we're not scheduling any more meetings either. Any other questions? Okay, very quickly, there are two things. There's an updated evaluation timeline for the town managers evaluation. I mentioned earlier that we took a little longer to get it moving out but it does not affect your timeline. But the reason we did that was because of converting things to use of Survey Monkey, which allows us to compile stuff a lot faster. And then, Lisa actually did some editing on it. So I just wanted to mention that everything is still on track and you were provided with the timeline. The other thing that has come up recently is the whole issue of timeline and key milestones for adopting zoning bylaws and other bylaws. And using a piece of a document that actually is part of a book that our Bob Ritchie is writing, we've now met and started adding into that the pieces that are part of our rules of procedure and also the charter and hope to be able to present that back to the council. But in the process, let me just say that is why we delayed because in doing that, it was determined and also before that was determined that because we did not hold a joint hearing with the planning board regarding the zoning bylaws, we had to go through the complete process of re-advertising with all of the same people that the planning board had already advertised with. So this in no way reflects on the bylaw review committee. It's just a matter of abiding by the law. Other than that, I have nothing else but going on to future items, I do wanna mention that we do at some point need to figure out how to address the issue of permission to fly additional flags because it was not specifically mentioned in the policy with regard to public ways. And it did come up though we went ahead and did approve it to fly the flag that we're flying now. And are there other future agenda items? Mandy Jo. I just wanna state that as chair of GOL, I've received a couple of comments on that. And so it will go on to our future agenda items to review the public ways policy to make sure to figure out a recommendation on flags on the flag polls and also commemorative flags throughout town. Thank you. Other comments on future agenda items? Okay, councilor comments? Yes. I just wanted to remind people about the Google form that the OCA sent out with regard to councilor outreach. We have five of us have completed it so we're waiting for everyone else to get that in so we can just get information out to people about what everybody's doing and what we can do better. Okay, thank you. Other questions, other comments? Do I hear a motion? There is no executive session. There are no other topics. Do I hear a motion to adjourn? George doesn't wanna adjourn. Come on. Second. Second. Second. Andy second, all those in favor? Raise your aye. Opposed? Abstain. Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.