Unfortunately, you can now follow me on all my social media platforms to find out who my latest guest will be and don't forget to click the subscribe button and the notifications button so you're notified for when my next podcast goes live Freeze Rwy'n ffugio'n 200 pwynydd o'r bank. Rwy'n dweud o gwneud 19-0, y casio Brithau yn ei gweithio. Felly,'r cyffredin yn ei ddoch chi'n cadw i'r pan. Rwy'n dweud o'r perth, y gweithio sy'n Steve Collins. Steve Collins wedi gweithio a dda yn dechrau. Mae'r cyffredin yn ei gweithio. Mae gyda chi, a'r cyffredin yn y gafel. Mae'r cyffredin yn dda, ac sy'n gweithio'r gweithio. Mae'n gweithio'n gyffredin yn y Gweithio Iw Bank a Ben. ac mae'n ddwy'r llyfr yng Nghymru. Mae'n gwybod yw'r ysgol yn ddweud! Mae'n nhw'n gwneud ati'r gwaith yn y Llyfrgell Gwyrgan yn ei ddiwedd yn yr hyn yn y fwy. Mae'n ymhell, ond mae'n ddim yn... mae'n ddim yn ddigon. Mae hyn yn y gwneud. Mae'n ddysgon. Mae'n ddod. Mae'n ddechrau,'n oes yn ddod. Mae'n ddod yn ddod. Mae'n ddod yn ddod. Ieitha gynnwys, dwi'n ddin i'w fath o'r pryd. Felly, rydw i, gwneud hynny i'w ddechrau mewn amser na gyllid 2018. Felly dwi'n emosion ty dechrau, rydw i, rydych chi'n niwed, yn ymdweud. Felly, rhywbeth hefyd yn ymddangos yn 16 oed gyda... Felly yn gallu ddim ddechrau, mae'r gadeig arhwnna fydd yn digwydd ar y ddechrau. Felly, mae'r ddechrau ar hwn. Felly, rydw i. Mae'n bwrdd. Rydyn ni'n ei ddysgu a sydd yn ffordd, joined Nicol Zaggy, Jo! Rewbeth i gyda, Nathan Sain. Ydw i gychwyn i'r legend, unrhyw unrhyw iawn o'r hanesier. Dwych chi'n amdau. Rhywbeth i'n ei ddysgu, dweud o'r ffrindio, y bod yn cael phabwch. Efallai, gwnaeth yreifon i chi oedd i'r fan. Ddodd ychydig, R strengthening. Cymruon. Gyd yn ardal, Yn hynny, mae'r gweithbawd yw yn ardal, How quick time goes when you are tired to be honest. But what can I say to achieve what I've achieved with my father. I remember my dad also. It's amazing. What can you say? 46 you know, like I say, one of the greatest of all time you're up there with your Floyd Mayweather, your Rocky Marciano. I don't think people realise how... a dyna'r cerddio'n gwneud. Felly, mae'n dda'r cyfrannu'r hyn o'r problemau. Mae'r cyfrannu'r cyfrannu. Mae'r 9-yr-old. Rwy'n ddim yn ddweud y ffrannu a dda'r cyfrannu. Mae'r cyfrannu'r cyfrannu. Mae'r 2 mlynedd yn y gyrd. Mae'r cyfrannu, mae'r cyfrannu. A'r cyfrannu'r cyfrannu efo'r ddweud.OOO! O'r meddwl ymateb yw 10 yr ysferwyr, mae'r meddwl yn bwysig mewn feddwl. Fe'r meddwl yma'r meddwl yn meddwl yw Chris Stock. Undi'r meddwl? Chris Stock. Rwy'n meddwl yma. Yma'r meddwl yw deuddo yn meddwl yw meddwl. Mae'r meddwl yn y dyfodol. Mae'r meddwl yn ysferwyr. Felly'r meddwl felly yma negwyr ymwysig yn rhaid i gael y bwysig, mae'r meddwl yn ei wneud yn dderyn a mae'r meddwl yn ei ddeuio. That was poor limbs at time the first Coach who had tamed me out of there. I remember how horrible that felt losing, so I lost my first ever fight I must how I beat him six times afterwards. I'm not just that but his father was one of the judges. That's not fair right? Yes so it's that just go to show you wasn't a natural from the start it was a hard work That's what happened. started winning a few, losing a few but I all come together when I was 12 so I started really dedicating myself, realize I was never going to be a rhythm statue of the world okay so I started to become really focused and things were starting to click when my dad was training me every day in the week.  No, no mess around me, I come home from the school and the rain is sleet or snow and he made sure I go for a run. even if he wanted to ychydig o'r rhan. A 12? Yn ystod o'r strygu o'r gweithio, yn 36kg. Rwy'n ymgyrch yn gwneud o'r cyflawn, yn cyfrifio'r cyfrifio, ac yn ymgyrch yn ymgyrch yn ymgyrch, yn ymgyrch yn ymgyrch, mae'n bwysig yn ymgyrch. Mae'r gwybod maen nhw'n bwysig, mae'n bwysig yn ymgyrch, ac mae'n bwysig yn ymgyrch. Yn ymgyrch, mae'n bwysig yn ymgyrch, mae'n bwysig yn ymgyrch, yn ymgyrch yn ymgyrch. Mae'n gweithio'r cyfrifio, mae'n gweithio ymgyrch, mae'n bwysig yn ymgyrchỉad. Mae'n bwysig yn ymgyrch. Wrth gwrs, ymgyrch yn fy mfyrdd, mae'i gwybod gwir. Gweithio'r gwir, ac mae'n gweld i'r ffynwyd. Rwy'n gweithio'r wgwyr yn ymgyrch. Yn hyn yw yn ei wneud. Bwynt fel oedd yn ei gynnau i'r boll pwysig ac mae'n 17 o 18 o'r ymgyrch, Didnery o fond. I kept pushing, kept pushing, kept all my faith I do it. So your dad's background was from Att intentionally your mum's from Wales and your dad... What was that story? A how did they two connect? So basically, my grandfather after the war, a lot of Talian immigrants move to Bedford, so my dad at the age of about four, five, due to brothers so they basically move to Bedford. Ac mae ofetwyd yn terminiaid ers eisiau cefnod am i jetному i gweithio y roeddonol byddwch. Ac mae'n meddwl figured maeонов ing lu… sut wedi的 From England is the first language, right? So ein gydwch yr hanfudd. Ac Foot!(75 years old-age, 15th-laugh, 9th-laugh, 16th-laugh, 17th- eight years old, 20th-laugh, 20th-laugh, 17th-laugh, 21th-laugh, 22th-laugh-ios, 21st- سے Ooh- hard-shef didn't do well, 22nd-laugh was none, 25th-laugh was a little punch, middle-thile bus. Mae broddwch wedi ein fath gydlif, 20th-laugh was the first language correct? a dwi'n gallu bydd o'r ffordd. Ond yw'n mynd i gwasbydd gael o'r fameni, o'r bwrw'u amser, rhai, o'r bwrwio sylfa, ddweud yn gwneud mewn byd yn y bydd. Rydyn wedi bod eisiau o'i meddwl i chi'n ei wneud, a hefyd, nid oedd e'n meddwl a'r bwrw i'r rhaid fe gwerthodd. El elderly yn ei bod yn i'ch meddwl i'r ffordd, ond rhaid dweud o'u meddwl i'n ei gwneud. Dwi'n sgol i'n meddwl i beth o'n ardal. ac yna ymddangos. Felly, fel yw ddiddor i'r unig, rydyn cyddwydd yn gweithio'r gwreidd a'r agahol. Fyny'r hynny'n dod yn gwir. Rwy'n meddwl i'r ysgolion. Rwy'n meddwl i'r ysgolion. Wythach, fyddwch, rwy'n gwir i'r ysgolion. Yn Sardenio, rydyn cyfnoddyn nhw. Fyny'n meddwl i'r ysgolion. Rydyn yn gwir i'r ysgolion. Felly, mae'r dyfodol yn ysgolion, iddo. Yn ystod, gan drefnodd gyma'r gwrthwyr, mae eraill mae'r nôl, gan y gallwn drwy gwrthwyr, mae'n dangos dda, mae'r hanes unrhyw gymredu i gwneud, nid oedd eu tanffydd. So mae'n Lampos, Corthedd, Qwil, gymryd ym Mhwg honno. Ie, mae'r gwaith o'r gweithi, mae'n gweithio'r gytir a hisbwyllfa, ond mae'n gobeithio. I left, he hitchhiked his way around Europe, he spent time in Amsterdam, slept in the bridges, just busking his way around Europe, wanting to get back to England and the story is that he come to Bedford to meet my auntie Genina. Thankfully for me, she just went back to Sardinia. So he's going to hitchhike back to Italy because you know what state. And as it happened, he bought a big bottle back in 2020, got pissed, got on the wrong side of the road, and as he went back to La Havre, so he went over to La Havre, wrong side of the road, and then ended back in England. So he woke up next to me and said, what the fuck, I'm back in England. So he went back to Bournemouth with one of his friends and a long story short, he said he's going to Wales, so he had a mate that knew somebody in Wales and I was sure some girl in Wales or whatever, so he went to Wales. My dad was in Cardiff and he had no money even for a cup of coffee. So he went into Wimpy where my mum was 17 and was working in the Wimpy. So the stories my mum used to say, he went in and he asked for a cup of tea and she went to get a cup of coffee. My mum wouldn't serve him, so she said, this guy's taking the piss. Can you all serve him, he's much shy. As usual, he was 16, so my dad would have been more 19. And that was that. And basically he waited for my mum and he was pissing down in the rain outside. He waited for my mum to come out. And my mum, because she worked at Wimpy, was like three burgers. And my dad was starving and he was like, can I get out of a bunny of burgers? My mum gave him one of the burgers. And what can he say? They sort of, I think, went to, went somewhere to a drink or to some disco. There was some free disco or whatever. And yeah, they sort of connected thanks to me. Oh, thank God. And what happened then is it got together. Then they decided to go to London where my mum worked at 20th Century Fox. My dad still tried new music and so on and worked there as well. And I was born in Hammersmith. And so I was born in Hammersmith London. And then from Hammersmith, they went to Sardinia. Hitchite, the Sardinia. But they didn't know that one because that's before the story mixed up a bit. So they went to Sardinia. Yeah, they went to Sardinia. Anyway, they went to Sardinia. No, on the train. Sorry, somebody hitched on the train to Sardinia. I would live there for about, I think, about 12 months. And my mum missed home because she's from South Wales. And not far from herself, but it's a place called Trudiga. And yeah, they come back. And that's it.  It's not far from here. And then, yeah, we sort of had a house there in the council house. It was a council estate called Penderamow. And that's where they sailed. And that's where the biggest story is. So, yeah. By any chance you live still with that, innit? Yeah. But you know what? I used to like my dad, you know, like I said, he was a musician at the bank. We were following each other with my uncle Lucho, my uncle Sergio. And we actually had a record contract. They sort of came with Paul Young. Baron Knights, a band that managed my dad. So I used to hitchhike. I used to love it.  I was 14 and I used to hitchhike from, because they were based in Milton Keynes, right? So the story is my mum didn't want to go to Milton Keynes. And they were on the verge of like spending up time. And thankfully for me, because I was going to leave where I am here to go to Milton Keynes. And my mum stopped the keys. And there was a place called Lakes Estate, which, you know, there's no boxing gyms there. Put it that way. I don't know what would have happened to me, but I wouldn't have been a boxer. Ain't it mad how all the stars align for where you end up in life like from your dad busking travelling all through Europe, just searching, ends up in Wales. Being a woman basically running away to Sardinia, busking homeless again, hitchhiking. Ain't life mad? It's mad. It still puzzles me. I'm a weird thinker.  It's just life is mad. And to then all that and then for your careers, again, it's unbelievable. But when you were going through school in as well, Joe, you had a tough time with bullies and stuff. Yeah. Because I know you wanted to play football. Was that one of the reasons why you changed from football to boxing to then defend yourself against bullies? No, I was not told. Believe it or not, I was an ABA champion. I was only small, I was like 5, 6 and 10. And the comprehensive school when she was outside my catchment area. And it was really strange. One day at the year 3, I was like 14, I went to school. And it was like everybody was ganging up on me. It was like people I thought my friends was my friends. And I thought sometimes name calling. It wasn't like physical, it was like name calling. Mental abuse. Yeah. That's really tough when you're young. I always remember there was about 30 kids come up to my house. I still remember it on bikes and I was going to fight this one boy. So that's how you were one-on-one. But they were going to jump me, right? So my dad goes out, he said, I'll tell you what.  Do you know what I mean? Don't all be together. Obviously it didn't happen. He didn't want to know. But when I went back to school, I just got called names, just got isolated. And then I sort of became, it's really weird man. Just like. The close? Yeah, yeah. I just thought I isolated myself from people and it really affected me. And boxing was my escapism. It's like I was a completely different person. When I was outside school, I don't know why I didn't change. I should have changed schools, but maybe that's part of me being stubborn. And it probably did affect my schoolwork, although all I wanted to do was box. So my dream was just to become a world champion. I was doing OK. So once I was that academic, I was really that bothered with school. Certain subjects I was OK with. But I just wasn't bothered. It's like, I remember speaking with a careers teacher and a member saying to me, I remember saying I was in the 50s. So what are you going to do when you leave school? And I was like, I'm going to be a world champion. She just looked at me and laughed. I should not seriously do that. Joseph, what are you going to do when you leave school? I'm going to be a world champion. But that's what I truly, truly believed in my mind because at the time I was winning two, three ABA titles. In school I was getting the piss out of all the time.  No one had to go to school. And it's weird to say that the safest place for me was the ring. And I loved it. And that was where I felt worthy. I felt some self-worth and felt somebody was when I was boxing. Is that because people were taking away your confidence, taking away your self-belief, but yet you were feeling more at ease while you were actually fighting? Yeah, exactly. That's where I felt like somebody. That's where I felt like a home. A boxing ring was my home. I was going up there beating people in the ring and learning and getting that all out. Because I was quite shy, very shy. A very introvert. And boxing I'd come out and I'd drop my hands, but outside I would be very quiet and within myself. And a lot of that is to do with, I think, from what happened in school. And you know what? It's best I wouldn't change it because that strengthened me up as a kid. So when I was boxing in the likes of Lacey, in boxing life, Hopkins were bullies. My had me learning that as a kid, I think. And our strength? Yeah. Give me the strength. And now I've been there before. Your last fight you lost when you were 17? Was it amateurs? Yeah, so last fight I lost was in the European Junior Championships in Prague in the old Czechoslovakia in 1990, July. I won my first fight against Hungary in one second round. And it's the first year you ever had to wear headguards, right? And I never wore a headguard. Even in Prague, I never wore headguards. They'd have to wear a headguard, but I just hate headguards. And you'd put a big headguard on. And a boxer's Romanian guy and he had this style like this. And I never seen this style before, right? So I won my first fight and went into that fight and he just kept flicking me under my headguard. And anyway, I lost that fight. And I still remember, I lost two fights that year. Lost in the wild seniors against a fight called Michael Smyth of Barry on a split decision. Lost that fight on points. And at that time, the trainer called Paul Williams who trained me, he was the amateur boxer trainer on Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays. My dad would train me all the time, like I said. So what happened? I remember Paul Williams, he said, my dad was doing the music still in the band in Milton Keynes coming back before. I remember he was saying to me, I want you to improve. He was a bit like a father figure because he was always trying to look after me in the gym and that. Obviously a father figure was quite close to me, boxing wise. And he wanted me to sign a piece of paper to him pro as a kid, I was 17. I was like, I don't like to him pro.  I was a young boy. I never saw him again since. He basically gave the keys to my father and said to my dad, yeah, you will have the gym. So my dad said to me, Joe, do you want me to train you? And as a main trainer, although we use my trainer anyway, right? As a main trainer. I thought, yeah, let's just do it. So thinking about it, I like, we went on doing three consecutive ABA titles. It shouldn't help. One thing that pissed me off was not going to the Olympics in 1992. And to be honest, that's the only time I see my dad cry when they come to boxing. He had to come home and tell me, even though I was the ringing ABA champion nationals, I wasn't selected to the Olympics because they were, because I was from an unfashionable gym in Newbridge. And all the people selected from Cardiff, they selected the Cardiff boy to go to the qualifying tournament who lost to Robin Reid. And Robin Reid went on to the Olympics. They got a bronze medal. And I'm sad the only thing I should be at the Olympics in 1992. But it wasn't to happen. But anyway, won three consecutive ABAs. After the second, it was going to improve. I went well to wait like middle way. And dad said, listen, nobody's won three ABAs in three different ways. It's just, you need 20, 90, 20, you just win another one. So I did. So I won another ABA. And then, yeah, we basically had a conversation with Mickey Daff, a promoter called Mickey Daff and Taylor. All that's right. That sounds like a rock near me anyway. Yeah. So we drove up to Wardawshree. So remember it. And I agreed being a three times ABA champion. I didn't speak to any of the promoter. I didn't speak to Barry Urin at the time or Fran Warren at the time. And it's because we were naive, you know? We just wanted to improve. So it might have taken an insight.  So basically I walked out there with a £3,000 loan. I thought it was the Simon fee. And I was on £300 a week. And I was on £300 a week for 21 fights. I've become British champion, young box in the year. And yeah. So I was on £300 a week. And then I didn't realize that £300 a week was a loan. So basically I had a baby. So my ex-wife was pregnant.  I literally had £200 at the bank. I was like 20 and no, 19 KOs. British champion had a fight on ITV. I didn't even know the purse. And my dad knew I was with dad, you know? And at the time I was frustrated because Fran Warren was taking over. And I wasn't getting away with time. None of my fights were getting shown on TV. And my father and my dad went up to London to speak to Fran Warren. And yeah, so basically, you know, he offered me decent money, good sign on fee.  So you're paying to fight basically? I had to pay a loan. The first thing I did was that £3,000. I bought a fucking, I bought a Ford Sierra. I didn't have no insurance, no licence. I was driving around for about three years and suddenly I'd done a quick test and I passed my test, thank God. First time. So you had signed a deal for 21 fights. Your first 21 fights, you had 20 knockouts. British title, flying. Start to make a kind of name for yourself in the scene. Yeah, I was the young boxer of the year. And you were getting shafted? Yeah, I never saw a contract. I never saw a contract.  How did you even know you were still in a contract? Well, that's it. You know, that's how I got out of it because I had Fran Warren and obviously I was in the contract and obviously, you know, they were my managers and also my promoters. So it's a conflict of interest. I mean, so obviously looking after themselves. So I was fighting, I was getting frustrated and I thought something's going to happen. And as it happened, yeah, I signed with Fran Warren. I had three fights and he promised me a title fight and it happened, you know. I had the three fights. I was on Sky Sports, which was great. I was where I wanted to be. He was getting paid decent money. And then, yeah, it was great. I had a fight with Steve Collins. Steve Collins was the champion and he sort of... He didn't fancy the fight, you know. He said he was injured. There's a couple of reasons, but I understand why he didn't. You know, obviously he was in big fights with Eubang and Ben and obviously he's fighting this young kid that's not really got a massive name. 20 knockouts in 21 fights. Is it worth the gamble? But then stepped Chris Eubang. If anything, I was more wary of with Eubang because he's one of them guys that was backs against the wall.   What, is it 20 seconds? The first minute or something? No, that's the thing. It's probably the worst thing I did. I knocked my first 20 fights before my hands start packing because my hands got worse as my career went on. I knocked 19, I think, of the first 20 fights and I went eight rounds twice. Five rounds once. Everybody else was knocked out first two rounds. So he boxing the guy Eubang who's been in wars. He's seasoned man. He knows to get in there. I always remember like the press conference.   You know what I mean?  I'm on the train. I'm on the valley. I'm finally got the spotlight. I see his Ali Davis and I'm like, I love watching Eubang, Brandon Collins and all these. So I remember looking across to him and he's like, that's how I'm going to knock you out. He just looked at me right.   But trust me, in that fight after three or four rounds I was fucked. That's the only way to explain it. I was exhausted. I think that I didn't know how to sort of pace myself. The excitement got to me and dropping in with my first left dog. Like Eubang's down. I'm like trying to finish a bit and throwing everything at him. Nothing more disheartening after about five, six rounds when you know you're only halfway for the fight. Inside you know you're not going to knock him out. And you see him walking around doing this. Like walking around the ring and I'm like out of breath and patting me. You know it's just exhausted. Absolutely exhausted. And he was true to his promise. You know he did take me to the wall. And it was by far the toughest fight I ever had as regards to exhaustion.  Like I couldn't move for three days afterwards. Like lactic acid could not move. It was really, really tough. And like I said I... Because he had only lost two fights prior to that to Steve Collins? Yeah. Yeah, yeah I know. But he was I think because Eubang used to fight. He had a good rest. And he was tough. He was tough as people say that. I've always rated him. People love to hate him. People love to...  But what a fighter.  And then... But every time every interview I've watched with Eubang he's always spoke highly of you because people say you couldn't punch. But he says you're fast and you're... And it's painful. Steve Collins every time I've watched him because I've watched you all sitting round the table he never ever seemed to give you credit. Why do you think that is? Do you think he was fearful of you? Collins I just think... Well to be honest I honestly believe that I believe Collins would have been an easier fight than Eubang.  Do you know what I mean? I was preparing for you... I was preparing for Steve Collins a different style than Chris Eubang. Like Steve Fallon Collins because Steve comes to you. I love counterpunching. He was a lazy fighter. I love people coming to me. I was preparing for Steve Collins. So when Eubang... When he sort of retired ten days before the fight Eubang was already boxing on the card. He was already fit. But I was more worried about Eubang because you know he ran with himself of Michael Watson. He got injured.  He goes down. He gets back. He's tough. And he was hungry. He wanted... And I'm like... I was more nervous. I'd be honest with you. I was a bit more nervous fighting Eubang than I was fighting Steve Collins. And... Yeah, like I said, man. I remember I was supposed to come in the ring at ten. I got pushed back to eleven o'clock.  Right? So I got so excited in the change rooms.  Right? I remember getting in the ring. I was all like the music. I was a chef of the rear. Oh, man. I was just fucking... Like I said, I was... I was just... After the first couple of rounds, I was tired. I was naked. I was exhausted. Like I said, I was impatient myself. Nervous energy and so on. Imagine everything you've ever trained for all your life on that one night from going not just financially but your dream as a ten-year-old to become world champion. Again, somebody that I've admired and watched as an amateur watching them against Ben, what's in you? I think I have one day left to fight him and you're fighting him. Yeah. You know? Because when you won the British title you didn't look as happy because I think you've done an interview after it says, well, it's nothing because I won the world title. Then when you eventually won the world title what's that feeling like, Joe? For everything you've worked hard for everybody. Kind of underrated at that time people just saying that you're doing shortcuts this and that but then you beat one of the best. One of the greatest. How was that feeling? Yeah, it was awesome feeling but it wasn't enough. It wasn't enough. I wanted to be a unified world champion and that's the thing, I always set myself goals and my dad always said something to me that stuck in my head always trained like a challenger and when you train like a champion that's when you lose. You know what I mean? So always trained like a challenger like. So beating you back, I won the unified title and unfortunately because of boxing as it is business of boxing when your stock has risen and you are a world champion the other champions don't want to fight and unfortunately I want to fight Robin Reed when he was WBC champion but when he just lost then I fight him. So he just lost a title and then I fight him. The same with Richie Woodall WBC champion. He just lost while I fight him. Then there's Charles Brewer the guy called Barry Mitchell. So all these guys have just lost titles and then I fight him. So I beat six basically world champions without their belt. So I was really frustrating and I was a bit disheartened about it because we tried to make the fights early with Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins way before it happened and it just wasn't happening. Sven Ocker was another one of German fighter that he wouldn't fight. I started getting injured. I was injured a lot. Some of my fights to be honest I found it struggling and motivated for. I remember boxing on the other card of Mike Tyson and against the fight of David Starry I remember people booing. It was disheartening man.  These are styles in mix and I was switching off in fights. You should never switch off. I remember sat in the corner looking around and my dad was like what are you looking around for? I said I'm not. I'm struggling to get motivated. It's like I've reached that level and I want to fight the next level and I was struggling a little bit for motivation. I was always 100% fit but I mean up here. I didn't fear an opponent and no one could beat that guy. That's why I always fought the best. The best fighter I've boxed is when you saw the best of me. Lacey Kester then you see me fight my best but other fighters I'm supposed to be quite easy. I would like maybe switch off a bit.  I mean I was at a great engine because I trained hard but up here man you need a little bit of a fear factor to think if I don't fight my best I could lose. Do you think that's where burying at school kicks into play? I don't want to be buried because I know in the Lacey fight is it Lacey? You were scared. You were going to pull out two weeks before. I think you get injured as well. Why was that? Was that the fear of everything? Do you think that extends from school days as well? I'm not so with a Lacey. I just fear of failure and it's something I always had. I lost nine amateur fights in 120 fights. Last defeat was a 17 so all of a sudden I got this fight. Jeff Lacey comes along right? By 90% of the press he was going to beat me. Boxing news like 90% I was a bookies underdog the only time ever. I wanted to fight. I think two weeks before the fight I got injured. I'll be honest it wasn't a massive injury it was an injury it played in my mind. I went to Harley Street I still remember going to Harley Street I had an injection in my hand I came back I was on the Great Western the train was right like coming back. I still remember it. I was dead. They said I got pulled out.  What do you mean pulled out?  What do you mean a chicken? So you already pulled out the fight because you can't pull out you're going to fight this fight.   He said listen he's shaped your life he said you're going to beat this guy with one hand. I said what are you on about you're going to beat this guy with one hand.     Al Pacino wasn't actually at the fight but I was with him two days before because he was at the he was a premier of one of his films 88 Minutes What's he like? That's one of the times I've ever been starstruck Al Pacino was like Scarface looks quite small in real life do you know what I mean? but honestly he's one of my I love Al Pacino he's a lovely guy he was a lovely guy he was nice to chat with him for a little bit and like I said it was unbelievable I stayed outside of the of the Strip on the Strip first not that people are boxing but I basically stayed we hired the villa we only really come into it come into the Strip to do the press conferences and so on but yeah like I said man it was a great night great occasion and to win that fight was brilliant but then I knew that was it for me Tired but you get put in your ass the first round by Hawkins I did were you thinking going up a weight that be it wasn't any team that you've doubted yourself that I've maybe I stepped too much no not at all I got dropped four times in my entire life and never as an amateur never in the gym even there was a flash knock down I rushed him and I got caught out of the four times I went down I wasn't hurt but with Hawkins he was very very frustrating his style was horrible style was blend and we just didn't blend he fought the perfect fight to beat me which was just go defensive grab on the inside stop me from working but you know after four or five rounds my stamina, my engine my punch work rate I took over the second after the fight of course your fight in America so I was nervous obviously afterwards but I remember when they say split decision I was just so happy to win that and yeah that was the fight I thought I've done it finished finished at the top there's a fine line between going on two firing box in you know and so on and it wasn't about my legacy it was about legacy for me was to have that perfect zero and be very ready meant more than keep fighting losing keep fighting and making a lot more money it wasn't for me and that's not what drove me obviously we all would be comfortable but I just felt I was cutting corners in the gym I was you know I just injuries and so on my kids were getting older they were getting obsessed with that when you're going to retire when you're going to retire yeah it was decision I made was to have one last fight because your kids were upset that you get put down was that the first fight they'd ever really been at when they watched you because they were upset at the end of that fight I believe they wanted you to retire and they were still young at the time yeah they were still young yeah a corner in Joly then at the time it caused maybe eight and yeah I remember yeah so my last fight so that's the first time I saw me drop so after lacy fire allowed them to come to watch me fights they came to Kessler I'm not sure I can't remember a box after Kessler a couple more fights and not Kessler and obviously they come to America but Connor was the youngest he basically I remember when I fought against Roy Jones Jr at the Madison Square Garden I'm warming up ready to get in the ring when the security brings my boy he's crying his eyes out because he's remembers me getting dropped and I'm thinking okay so getting my hug before I get in the ring but it's probably a good thing that when they changed I got fucking dropped again this round the way seeing you beat Hopkins was Freddie Roach Hopkins trainer yeah Freddie Roach so how does Enzo your father musician being able to compete with one of the greatest trainers of all time to then because did he not use music notes as like for techniques for yourself on six and seven punches I don't know where they get that from we just had their own style from young it's hard to explain we just evolved our style you know my dad we lived Marvin Hagler's Sugary Leonard so he tried to blend them both together so my dad he wasn't just me he trained Gavin Reese from his gym Nathan Cleverley to be honest he was from this gym he trained this as a kid so he was a world champion so there's no coincidence he had such a tremendous energy in my dad he had such an energy but not just that he just knew me he was the best trainer world for me he knew every style would be awkward he knew Hopkins would be awkward for me he knew he would be awkward he knew me inside out he watched me thousands round spar I was just spar with my dad growing up he could box a bit we used to spar together he knew it would be tough that fight he was 100% confident that would win he knew I'd have to work he knew that Hopkins would spoil spoil go backwards people coming to me I left a counter punch to chase a fight you go back to your corner two rounds down already I kept trying to pull punches he kept holding on I had so much more energy it wasn't a hard fight it was a frustrating fight it was fresh after 12 rounds I didn't feel really tired but Hopkins he's just an expert he's an old time great to be an old time great considering he was an old man when I boxed him I think six years afterwards he won the world title of 50 so I think that win shows one of my best wins if not the best wins because he's an old time great to get into America and beat America in their own backyard especially a split decision you must be thinking fuck I've got that lost to my name but to win that is unbelievable again so when you were getting through that were you fighting that 12th round what were you thinking this is my last round all I was thinking was work work work I think after six rounds I felt I was on top because although it was a messy fight I felt I was working him you know he was just trying to buy time he was fighting a little blows and then he got in the fucking balls and I was like come on get him and yeah so he was just nerve wracking he was nerve wracking that so when they say I had a new and it was like yeah so that was it really and I'll be honest my last fight I knew it was going to be my last fight I spoke to dad we didn't say to the press but this is it now for me I just felt this was it I was cutting corners going in my last fight against Roy George Jr and with that I sensed it I remember one day I think I skipped training about four weeks I was still in great shape I skipped about two days and he said hey you know what you're going to get your fucking ass killed what were you all about I said I know what it was only one day in about ten weeks I've ever done that and I had a few drinks Why do you think you've done that why did I do that it's just I don't know well that's what I'm saying I knew it was time to quit because going back to the world and legacy I felt I'd done everything financially I felt I was secure I beat the Hopkins but then you go up there maybe it's your ego as well you know you've got the trappings you've got the money now you've got the sports base now you've got the award and you're thinking yeah I don't know it's got a test of soul doesn't it it was I come back and Dad said all you work for you're going to get a beat what are you talking about he just had a knack of knowing what to say and when to say it because we were so close my train and best friend since little just knew me so much a new alternative trust me when the train on the pads smashed the pad because of what he said and yeah it was bless him man How was that Madison Square Garden your last fight Roy Jones what was going through your mind going into that fight yeah I felt confident I felt sharp if you watched the fight even today I don't know it wasn't a plan it just something that happened and I think you can see in that fight I knew it was my last fight I was just enjoying myself except for the first round it went on the floor it was like a forearm I went down on the street I remember going into the Madison Square Garden in the afternoon when they just put the ring together and I was just looking around thinking this is it man this is my last fight but since I was a kid I'm in Madison Square Garden and it's like tingly you know what I mean it's like the atmosphere and just really soaking in the energy and doing the fight you know I was well I could have stopped Roy Jones I was happy I was enjoying doing the 12 rounds and I always remember the last few rounds I still remember thinking just look around last three rounds in life and the last round I was like this is the last round of your life man just enjoy it that was in my head and that was it and after that fight I knew that would be it and people were saying well why didn't you just get the 50-0 you'd like three off making history but that was my number number 46 I was like I said that just felt like it was time to think about my children you know maybe think about myself because like I said I was getting injured all the time you get punched, you get hit it was a long time to get hit and you have to live and boxing is not everything you know so when I look back part of me does think maybe I should have continued and it really affected my father my dad not boxing again I never really thought my dad would be affected because after boxing you are lost I did feel pretty lost because after the euphoria and the fucking top of the world you're super mad, you think you are but there's other things except for boxing and that's hard maybe to adapt and take in after a while Do you think that's why a lot of boxers come back because there's a void missing Yeah I think so I think that's part of where they come back Yeah definitely I missed the get up in the morning obviously the euphoria when there's nothing like it that regimental aspect of it where you got 12 weeks for the fight so in between fights I go on holidays, get fat eat loads of nice folks you can fall in now have a good drink then you're training again so when that's gone you realise what you're going to do you have to complete change your mindset because you haven't got that goal to fight again so it's easy when people say okay we'll do something else come on you can do anything you want to do Joe okay so I decided I went to London a nice place in London I sort of probably the worst thing there I'd be fucking an actor no good I done two little parts but yeah I was doing all these other things and yeah it was quite tough you know done a few TV bits TV things nothing really made me happy you just accepting that you did do what you achieved man anyway you did that you fucking done it man do you know what I mean so yeah it took a while to be honest with you it took a while to sort of come to terms with you know in the boxing normality but what I could hear Joe like to have 46 you know the world at your feet known is one of the greatest of all times going through that journey with your dad we'll touch on your dad in a little bit but we were speaking earlier like your dad was there when you were at your best your dad lived your journey with you like my dad always seen me as a fuck up he passed away when I was going through my life with drugs and crime and all that bullshit now I'm starting to spread my wings and part of me like he would have loved to have been here today he was a massive fan of you he would have loved to have been at the interviews and meeting people that he never seen me at my greatest your dad was there every minute living your dream with you like that's a beautiful thing that will live for you until you take your last breath like your legacy lives on forever every young boxer every boxer there now looks up to Joe Kozagi as an inspiration like 46 you know what an arborish boxer ever do that like you don't know with people it's mad that some boxers don't even get past 30 fights now there's like all these what you've done and what you've accomplished is fucking second to none and that's a hard part that any boxer would take for even half your fucking career but the 346 King of the world and then you're still finishing boxing and feeling as if there's something missing lonely in his kicks and it's scary how life can make the twists like that what do you think that is then that for you as in that gratitude appreciation for what you've achieved or the lack of things for boxers because you're used you're a circus act as well for people that promoters managers do this and then when you stop there's fuck all the else for you so that people go into the army they come out and they've not got anything the majority of people homeless from X army and it's mad but do you think there should be more places putting things to help boxers far after the careers I think so I think definitely it's a lot of depression it goes on a lot of people lose their way it's sad really the toughest of sports I don't think it's enough protection for boxers or to go forward with regards to educating fighters giving them another because 99% of boxers realistically don't make enough money to continue with their life and be comfortable they have to get a job because they lost what they do so it's tough there's a lot of sports that way I saw finished as the best you could finish and defeated but still I was lost I was fucking lost man for a while and I didn't realise it for a long time it took a long time everybody wants to invite you a pie there's always something going on there's holidays there there's a lot of stuff yeah before you realise it 10 years have gone past wow man I think it was quick I think I should have stayed in the ring it was the best place to be man but like you said to finish for you and defeat is a blessing but I still miss it the way from boxing I consciously left boxing because of politics I don't know my life I think maybe I stayed away from it too long it's my boys they got this gym back up and running it was not useful for you many years and it's great that they love boxing and obviously they're good boxing trainers because they watched me and I've taught them for years and this continued legacy of my dad you'd love it I still feel his energy in this place he's missed every day how was that for you Joe like the loss of your father I know he's well at brother's best friends to live the career that you've done and him being by your side to then passing away to that really affect you mentally Joe it's what I say it's a little shock when my dad was unbelievably fit he had a few illnesses and yeah it was a shock it's one of the things it's a lot to believe you know I lost my dad in September 2018 and just I get missed every day just it's hard and I lost my mum like 16 months later you know you think boxing is tough but fucking real life is really tough God tests us all as my dad used to say here is a test friend it's tough but I still feel his energy I know he's still with me and like you said he's never forgotten the legacy he's done what we've achieved in boxing means more for the fact that he'll always be remembered yeah he's had memories of live on and I'm sorry for your losses but you'll bounce back from it you'll use it as strength and fire for what you want to do for the next chapter of your life it's easier says than done loss but we don't know how to handle loss or grief because we're all soft Joe we've been speaking like we're all sensitive beings we're all searching for something to fulfil the pain and stop the fucking meth the madness that's up here it's like the frog big box everything jumping about not knowing where to go but like I said earlier achieve what you've accomplished your mum and dad live that life with you getting to travel the world seeing their son being one of the greatest that's a feeling that you can never buy that people die without ever succeeding in anything in life people lose parents there's no connection with people's parents don't see their kids those kids don't even see their parents you've got a bond there that people would be proud of there's probably people made amends with their fathers you've acted on screen love for attention no doubt there's been fucking wars when the cameras are off whatever mix you've had to create what you've created it worked perfectly and I don't think that can be rectified I don't think people can copy that I think fathers and sons have tried with a boxing world but it never got as far as you two done the most successful father and son boxing career I know anyway well and he's far but I'm sure they fell out a few times but your dad was there through thick and thin that's a beautiful thing like I say they'll be proud and I believe in energies and frequencies I believe they'll still be here that's all you can do so after the career do you regret not going to America quicker Joe? do I regret everything is meant to be I think it's all destiny it was meant to be a struggle I wouldn't be a war champion if I went to the Olympics and won a medal I wouldn't be a war champion I probably would have had money when I was a kid and just fucking got flash it happens I had the struggle to be where I was even though I'd be Chris Huban for the title I was still looking for my mortgage just about paid off my house at the time so I wasn't getting big paydays till the end so if I got big paydays then that's where I look at it do you know what I mean perfect timing I remember a story I remember speaking to a man who was Stuart he's working for HBO and I remember speaking to him before the Roy Jones fight so we just have to weigh in he said Joe what are we going to do after this fight and the only person I spoke to really except for my family and my dad that was going to be my last fight so you're going to fight next I said manny I think this is going to be my last fight and he was like yeah I'm just thinking it's my last fight he said but I'm thinking about getting the 49 and I always remember what he said he said Joe if you retire he said we have Rocky Marcial of 49 fights but yeah I think about 8 more title fights 21 more title fights so he'll be a world champion a white European fighter being a world champion for 10 years and this is where you come to America and not beat one black legend but the second black legend in Roy Jones Jr he said if you retire he said people want to appreciate what you've done now he said years to come people will really appreciate because they want to happen again and that was manny Stewart saying that whether it happens again, maybe it will, maybe it won't but the fact that he spoke to me just affirmed that it is the right thing to quit to retire because you know it was like 37 like 36, 37 and I'm gonna be realistic that nobody is a superman everybody is beatable on a given night I'll be beatable on a given night just when I fought not my best fights, I was still bad at my opponents if I fought not 100% against castling against Lice Hopkins then could have lost this way it is decision wise whatever so you just to me that would just like legacy meant more although sometimes I do think that by the fuck I should have kept going see the money all these fighters I make I thought wish my career was now with the social media shit that happens you see all these like these so called youtubers maybe they should still make a fight back maybe they should come on I think we see Roy Jones Roy Jones forward Tyson exhibition I think he made more money there Roy Jones he did against me two bit around so I'll fight you Mike would you have a with the mindset you've got now you seem to get in your spark back and do you know what I'm planning for the future and big things are going to happen again but do you ever feel as if okay do you know what I fancy a little exhibition yeah I think so do you know what why not and you see all these fighters making money I'm thinking you know I'm listen I ain't got the engine for 12 rounds anymore and yes I am a bit overweight never going to make soon I'll try to get the cruise away but I still go around to speed man it's a little quick it's a little sharp I still reflexes I don't know I don't know if I got the wrongs on the pads the hands are so quick do you know what eight twos canta why not who would you call out who is going to make me the most money Robert Steve Collins I don't know how to fight anybody it'd be a bit of fun I was thinking about doing it for my 50th next year so maybe I'm doing it for my 50th I'll get back in a bit of training see how the old bones carry on but you know what it's just a great sport man I love the sport it's great to see fighters come back and I'm a bit of fun in the ring Tyson and Jones fight was good it was actually okay man Tyson was decent but he's in his 50s it's funny do you think that's what you need about a structure how would you feel though if you're old boy not being there yeah that's the one thing I have thought about that because when I was with dad I thought I could never box again anyway because dad was obviously we were just in he was always in the corner but if I was doing the exhibition I'm sure my son's in the corner so he's still running so he would be there anyway you asked for boxing do you think he came away from it though for the 10 years how many years were away because you could have got sucked back into it and you could have possibly took another fight on yeah possibly that's maybe what it was that's maybe what it was I still think back to why did I just leave Wales and go to London probably at the time in hindsight other things back maybe I lost a lot of time dad wanted to continue boxing managing and training me not being in the gym probably affected dad because I didn't really think at the time that he'd miss boxing as much as he did and I was just getting on with my life I was just trying to do other things if you do all that bullshit he thinks it's the right thing to do at the time but I think he was to escape being one thing all your life trying to do other stuff trying to get out my system but he doesn't just go out your system that's who I am and obviously I am Joe the person but boxing sport boxing gave me the life I have made a legacy for myself for my father for my kids for the gym obviously very proud of that maybe it's time now now I'm feeling pretty good I'm coming to 50s a big milestone it's time to reflect look at life and what you've done what you've achieved things you've done wrong and like I said my sons they love boxing and maybe it's time to give them a helping hand and hopefully who knows maybe make a world champion for me one day that's in your blood I think that's where you'll thrive I think that's when you're feeling most alive when you feel as if important that no matter what car we drive or how much money we're making there's something missing if we're not trying to achieve an end product an end goal to working towards something like no matter what you put your mind to you want to become the best and that's where you think fuck it but now you're getting that spark back you're hitting to that 15 you're thinking there's people's training way just Freddie Roach they're in their 60s and they're still training you can't just not saying quit but give up we'll have our wobbles but you've got the potential to be teaching someone who just stays around the corner to be one of the greatest as well you've got the ability, you've got the backup to do it, you've got the knowledge to help train somebody to leave and change their family's life the way that your dad helps you do with your career do you know what I mean I think that's where you'll feel more alive standing in somebody's corner being an absolute legend to then you taking it all in and that's your kind of replacing for what your dad did for you and I think that's where you'll feel the spark and go do you know what fuck it yeah to have that something it's in your blood you always want to fight you fucking maybe call somebody when you're 60 or 70 you don't know how have you battled but the last 2-3 years with the drink party and stuff like that because now is it 8 months not touched a beer yeah it's a party man so 8 months I think you know I think obviously I was tough lost my dad like I said and I was like drinking that you know but I suppose after lost my dad was just such a shock you know and you just you just fucking grief so awful thing and somebody I was so close to you know it's you just try to black it out you know you just have to denial all the aspects of loss and then I was just fucked at the time mate you know what I mean I'll be honest with you I was just a massive struggle and it's just the most horribleest thing to ever go for as you know yourself mate it's the awful thing you start to explain to somebody that's never been through that and just then I only just fucking drinking you know I suppose it got a bit out of the hand just trying to fucking black it out really and I was lost man like a fucking hero and like I said my mum she got ill and like I said lost my mum as well and yeah just that was awful and I felt that I had a realisation that you know I got two sons you know what I mean I got myself we did great legacy I got my faith in God so I believe even though it was a tragedy that happened my boys needed me and I probably wasn't there for them as they should have been because I was fucking lost mate like we all we all struggled but yeah turn of the year I decided pretty spiritual awakening mate I decided that that was it and I don't want to hurt myself to do this anymore I just want to be the best person being lived life life is beautiful man like I said just stopped just stopped drinking completely just living a clean life trying to eat that but it's not that good man I'm actually going to try to vegan I've been trying to do the vegan diet but yeah just want to focus on next chapter of my life like I said I believe in my heart and my mum and dad are still here and I'm very blessed to have to still be here myself I'm still blessed to have two amazing sons you know I'm extremely proud of you know and who want to continue the box they love it it's in them you know they don't want they do it because they want to do it and it's like you just saying just now this is going to be the next chapter maybe we'll make another world champion and this will kick on and keep it going because we work too hard to just let it fucking go on in my life to let it go What was that realisation for you Joe when you're going through that time drinking every day you were drinking?


Haha! Hey guys, Thundie here. You guys asked for this. This is gaming on the Galaxy Z Flip 4. Now the Z Flip 4 is the latest flip phone from Samsung and while even it looks similar, it does have a thinner slit here although I can still see my display over there. But the hinge change here really does a whole lot to make it feel much more sturdier and also just more solid device that you can flip open and flip close. Now it does come with a cover display and I have seen my buddy Miles Buff Tech actually play something here. He's on TikTok. You go check him out. I'm not going to do that. I'm actually going to be sharing gaming on the main display and now speaking of that main display, we open it up. It is a 6.7 inch display. It's a 120 Hertz display which is pretty nice and again we love that. It has a refresh rate because while we're gaming we're going to need that especially for our shooters. This side-by-side to save the Galaxy S22 Ultra, it looks similar like a traditional smartphone not in terms of size but just in terms of overall look and I like that. It's a bit thinner on the thinner side but then again you still have that traditional smartphone when it comes to gaming. That is really really important. So in terms of specs we have the Snapdragon 8 plus Gen 1 which we've seen some really good numbers for so we're excited to see what it does here. We get 8 gigabytes of RAM, 128 gigabytes of storage to start. Now I wish Samsung went higher with 12 but then again this should still be fine for what we want to do. So what do we do? We start off with Call of Duty Mobile. Now Call of Duty Mobile we can go all the way to Ultra with 8 plus Gen 1 and we played an Ultra. We got 83 frames per second and it was great to see. Very smooth, very fast, really responsive refresh rates there and I really enjoyed that. Now some of you ask yes you can do 60 frames per second if you choose to but if you can go more why not go more right? Then we went over to PUBG. PUBG Mobile were able to play on both settings, Ultra HD Ultra which gave us 40 frames per second which is standard but I think we could probably eke out more especially in some of these settings developers do your work. But when you play at smooth extreme you get solid 60 frames per second. So that was nice to see with this that again that is standard. Now Apex Legends the game I've been playing more lately because it just really really is a fun game and also not a lot of news is still there because I'm not that great and most shooters. But that being said Apex at its standard settings I got 40 frames per second. Now some of you were wondering like I've saw some comments on the phone saying that's terrible for 8 plus Gen 1 that's a developer thing and I think that we just need to see developers make take advantage of that. Now one developer that doesn't take advantage of anything is Genshin Impact. We know that game is poorly optimised but we all like to see how most devices work and handle at max settings for 60 frames per second. Now when you play this game at max settings 60 frames per second for the first seven minutes of gameplay you will get 60 frames per second. After that we're getting roughly 43 frames per second that's lower than the Galaxy Z Fold which was about 46 to 48 but again within that you know threshold if you want and again better than what we're getting with the regular Snapdragon 8 Gen 1. So a huge improvement but with a device like this your next thing you're thinking is what about temperatures because Genshin is a game that takes advantage of heat and you don't have any special cooling. This is where I'm going to duck points for Samsung because Samsung has not really done a good job the last couple years in providing better cooling for this device compared to the OnePlus 10T which I was truly impressed to see how cool that device ran. This device here the Z Flip 4 on the screen itself ran 105 degrees and towards the camera and the on the top so now the rear of the device I've got temperatures between 107 to 112 so really hot temperatures which means I'm not going to be able to do long hours of gaming. Now you're wondering how does this affect battery life at 3700 mAh battery I would say actually it's been pretty good for most games other than Genshin Impact playing at those settings so I was able to actually start from 100 and playing Call of Duty PUBG as well as also Apex Legends I had lost about 20% battery life playing for almost two hours so that to me was actually fine. Genshin throws that all out the window. Then of course there's game streaming services now those should always work well but I always do test that and of course Xbox Game Plus plays really well. Now you're probably wondering what kind of controllers can you use and the best controller for me here is the new Razer QC V2 this is the Android version that's all I can find right now that's available but it fits really well for the Z Flip 4 allowing you to tuck it in and game as much as you like so that was really really nice to see and also see that look there's something I can actually use with this device for some of my gaming needs. Now audio is a big thing we've got of course we've got stereo speakers but how well did the game sounds well take a listen sounds pretty good right solid audio performance very close to your S22 Ultra in my opinion there but this is of course a Z Flip 4 so what else can you do gaming wise well you can do it in flex mode basically having it in the split screen mode you can put your phone down you can have your game on the top and you can have something else at the bottom so I have Xbox Game Pass there on the very top and in some cases I will also have Twitter at the bottom so I can scroll through Twitter while I'm gaming it's a much smaller screen it feels more like a Game Boy in here but also really tighter there not really recommended in that regard now all essence though I think this device is really solid for gaming or whether you just have it as a fashion accessory in terms of mobile phones all you want to do more it's got all the performance that you're looking for and all that you need as a gamer the one thing I'll say is temperatures can be very daunting and battery life for gaming is actually good as long as you're not playing Genshin impact that's pretty much it guys so if you have any questions any comments let me know if you want to pick up this device the Z Flip 4 or the Razer QC V2 I will leave the links down for you guys below or you have any other questions let me know don't forget to like share subscribe and always enjoy entertainment


So I invented wad-free, which is the first product ever anywhere that solves a problem so many people have when they wash and especially dry their sheets.  It doesn't come out clean, it's a total disaster and then if you don't have that problem I think a lot of people are familiar with what I call the sheet burrito.  You come back to the dryer at the end of the cycle you don't find dry fluffy sheets you find this great big wet wad that you have to unravel and dry again and again. So wad-free solves that problem at last.


I mean, some people even say, I'm doing open source because I'm buying Red Hat, which doesn't really make a lot of sense. But well, look, baseline doing open source means having a project that is under an open source license. So an Apache license, a GPL license, really any of the licenses that are approved under the open source definition that is maintained by the open source initiative. That said, as you mentioned, most of the times it doesn't just take throwing some code out there in GitHub. A, to build a community. B, to actually solve critically strategic problems for an industry, like sort of looking at doing here between Fianos and the Digital Dollar Project and Hyperledger. And so I think it's not by chance that most of the critical components of the internet, like Linux, Kubernetes, Node.js, are actually not only open source, but they're openly governed under third party non-profit entities like the Linux Foundation, or Fianos, or Hyperledger. Because otherwise, generally, open source just in GitHub falls critically short when you have political and really strategic interests around the project and commercial interests around the project. So I'm a big fan of promoting open governance, not for every single open source project, but for the type of projects where you have competitors in different constituencies collaborating amongst each other. I don't know what you guys think. I might add that if we think about the alternative, so you have vendor software, platform-created software. It's incumbent upon them to gather a wide range of industry input to build the right thing. And then it's done in a deeply proprietary manner behind closed doors. And that business model is to then generate a massive amount of trust in that it's highly effective, safe, secure code. Alternatively, for certainly the utility or common applications that support the entirety of financial services or other industries, there's a really appealing alternative in open source, which is because everyone can see the open source code, the quality of that code is provably better, generally. And this is coming from someone who helps develop software. There's a Linux port. It's an order of magnitude, fewer bugs per line of code in open source because everyone can see it. And by definition, and I think that's phenomenal, and then therefore that ability to address security, the cost advantages of having multiple parties engage with it is all incredibly compelling. So this notion of developing, recognizing our common needs and then being able to get a community rallied around building quality code to address those needs just is, I think, more and more critical.


Okay, we're back inside the Cube, live in San Francisco, California, at Node Summit here. Day two, Node Jam, all the startups are out there talking to the investors in the crowd, showing them their apps built on Node. I'm John Furrier, founder of SiliconANGLE.com, SiliconANGLE.tv, and this is the Cube. This is where we broadcast live. I'm here with Ben Lowenstein and Robert Daphouse.  Played with George Gay from Canada, as you said earlier. Okay, and what's your company name? So we are Colingo. Colingo, not to be confused with Colinga, which is the town on Route 101. No, that would definitely be unfortunate. Okay, so welcome to the Cube, guys. So what's the vibe here? Tell us what you guys are doing here and your product and company. Absolutely, so we are Colingo and we are solving the problem of intermediate English learners worldwide. And this is a problem that's not well understood here in the US, but this is not like you or I who needs to go and learn the basics of French because we want to go out to a nice dinner and impress someone, or we want to know a little bit of Italian for the trip that we have to Italy. We're dealing with people who need English because it makes the difference of getting the job or not getting the job, but being able to seize opportunities or not seizing opportunities. And so we have a real time online tutoring marketplace where learners can come and we match them up with tutors for very advanced, very focused language tutoring sessions that get straight to the bottom of the problems that prevent them from being fluent. So, honestly, we're huge. We have a project we're working on called Silicon Academy, which is kind of like our open source projects just getting off the ground. We know about Khan Academy. We hear about Code Academy, just good funding. So online learning is changing. This isn't just like online course where it's a different paradigm of learning. So is that where you guys are going in here and how does the product work? Do people opt in? Is it crowdsourced? How is your platform working? Absolutely. So we're really focused on how we can take someone from the United States, an average American who has one thing that really matters to learners abroad, which is the intuitive ability to listen and to help someone practice their English and matching them with our tool set and our technology that enables them to become a really great language tutor and to be able from the comfort of their home with basically no experience to be an awesome tutor that can really help a learner get to the very specific problems that prevent them from fluency. So it's a marketplace. So that's the primary business model. So you have to match buyers and sellers, all that good stuff, kind of like match.com for English. But so there's some tech involved, right? You're dealing with video, dealing with audio. Yeah, we're actually dealing with audio and Robert can talk more about that, our director of engineering. Yes, and Node was an obvious choice for this project because it's a very real time base. There's a lot of interaction going on. When that learner is on the system with the tutor, there's a lot of information going back and forth. Node was an obvious choice for that. And we were also dependent on some third party APIs such as Twilio. So Node is really good for kind of sitting in the middle of all this stuff going on in real time. So what about video? Is there video involved? Not at the moment, there's not no. Just audio. Yes. So is it a window with chat and video? Yeah, so actually we also leverage Skype in this because Skype is a great communications channel. So the learner and the tutor are actually connected over Skype. But once that happens, that just kind of sits in the background and then they go over to their browsers and the actual lesson, the actual conversation itself, all that value happens in the browser. So we had Voxer on earlier. They're doing a lot of that, you know, the instant messaging with the voice. We asked about Skype. And so what does it work? What does it mean to work with Skype? To my knowledge, Skype doesn't really deal with Node or Skype just wrapping around Skype. How do you handle the Skype thing? Exactly, we're doing what you just said. We wrap around Skype. So Skype has released it's in a beta phase, essentially a runtime where you can build your own UI around Skype. And we are leveraging that in our system. And it was just a natural choice, like I said, to use Skype because they do have some great features in their network that we don't really have to worry about. You know, they just deliver a good call. Great, so where are you guys now? Tell us about the company status. Funded, angel funded, not funded, looking for funding, how many people? Sure. Where are you guys at? So we're three people right now. My co-founder Lee Jacobs, myself and Robert. Full time, we're looking to hire one more. That's actually why we're here at Node Conference. And if there's anyone in this audience that is a Node developer and would like to come work on some awesome challenges, please get in touch with us. So we were talking last night about this person you're trying to hire. It's a tough hire, right? It's a JavaScript person. Just describe the person you're looking for. So we're really looking for someone who has the ability to think in an architectural sense about Node. Who wants to take Node from kind of a basic hacking on it, we can make something work application to an application that's really well-structured, well-tested, something that's very smooth, very robust, and can link in with a lot of the external APIs such as Skype that we're working with. So where are you guys at with the product now? Is it actually working with some folks using it, or is it still being developed? Yeah, absolutely. So we're in a private beta right now and we actually have people who are using the product coming back every day, loving the experience. We're keeping things very small at the moment. We're gradually scaling them up as we fine tune the core interactions and the core principles involved. How many people are using it in the private beta? So it's pretty small right now. I'd have to check the exact numbers as of today because we just launched two weeks ago, so. Tens, hundreds, thousands? In the smaller range of that. Smaller range, okay. Yeah, so you're controlled beta. We're in a controlled beta, but one of the exciting things is thinking about distribution and think about how easy it is to scale a solution when you have all the core components of this right. So there's VCs here, so obviously Charles is running around, checking everyone out. Insuk Ray is here from Rembrandt. Have you guys talked to some investors at all, and what's the feeling from investors? Yeah, Charles is a great guy. I had a lot of good conversations with him so far. And in general, yeah, we are in execution mode at the moment, and we are really looking to go ahead and prove out a lot of the key concepts that we're working on. And you're based here? Yeah, we're based here in San Francisco. And you're looking for someone that person to be in San Francisco. That's right. Okay, so anyone in San Francisco Bay Area, you want to come join these guys. It's a great app, and I got to say, the whole learning transformation paradigm is completely up in the air right now. It's a great environment to innovate. I'm a huge fan of Khan Academy, a huge fan of Code Academy. We have a Silicon Academy project, which is just now getting up online, not really online, but going, and we're getting some support for it, but it's huge, and it's changing the game. And the learning environment will be, as Mark Hopkins and I talk about, very Xbox-like, where there's going to be a lot of interaction, a lot of real-time data, very gamification-oriented, cool things like that. So I think you guys got a good opportunity. Hope you can find that person. Yeah, I mean, myself as well, and it's really the opportunity to take code, to take node, and make something that's going to work for the two billion people that are learning English over the next 10 years. The numbers are just staggering. Get that product out the door. Ben, thank you very much. Thank you. All right. Pleasure.


France promises hundreds of old armoured vehicles and new batch of Aster-30 missiles to Ukraine. France will supply Ukraine with additional surface-to-air missiles and hundreds of armoured vehicles from storage. Defence Minister Sébastien Le Corneau has announced the deliveries are set to begin this summer and continue over the next two years. Speaking to the newspaper La Tribune Dimanche, Le Corneau said he had been instructed by French President Emmanuel Macron to come up with a new aid package to help Kiev's war effort against Russia. He noted that the supplies will include equipment that was previously used by the French army but is still functional as well as a new batch of Aster-30 missiles that are designed to intercept drones and cruise missiles with a range of 120 kilometres to hold such a long front line the Ukrainian army needs, for example, our armoured vehicles. This is absolutely key for troop mobility and is part of Ukraine's requests. The Minister said we're talking in the hundreds for 2024 and early 2025. He clarified when asked about the timeframe adding that he had asked the Government Defence Procurement Agency to accelerate the production of Aster missiles. The French military is currently seeking to replace thousands of VAB armoured personnel carriers which first entered service some 45 years ago with newer types of APC. In February Macron signed a new security pact with Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky, pledging 3 billion euros in military aid to Kiev for the year 2024 alone. However, the bilateral security agreement has turned into a budgetary and political headache for the government and it is extremely unclear how the promise will materialise given public resistance to spending cuts and further aid to Kiev. The French publication Le Monde reported last week. The paper suggested that in order to provide 3 billion euros, the French authorities would have to play with the paperwork or inflate the value of used equipment donated to Kiev. Macron has previously stated that the West will do anything we can to prevent Russia from winning this war.


Five English phrases and ten English idioms for complaining about your job from espressoenglish.net No matter how much you like your job, there are always a few things to complain about. Look at these five English sentences to learn some idiomatic expressions for talking about negative points at work. Sentence number one, my coworkers don't pull their weight and I'm always picking up the slack. The idiom, pull your weight means to do your fair portion of the work or responsibility.  As a result, you are always picking up the slack. This idiom means to do extra work because other people are not doing their part. Sentence number two, I can't stand the office politics. It seems like kissing up to the people who call the shots is the only way to move up the ranks. The expression office politics refers to people using their power or influence in a company to get advantages for themselves. It's usually a negative thing. The phrasal verb kissing up to someone means to say and do lots of nice things for a person because you want to get on their good side so that they will favor you or help you. Another way to say this is buttering someone up. The people who call the shots are the people who make all the important decisions and the idiom move up the ranks means to get a higher or better position in a hierarchy. In the context of a job, this would mean getting a promotion, a better salary or more authority in the company. Another idiom for this is move up the totem pole. Sentence number three, my boss loves to micromanage and I can't do my best work when she's constantly breathing down my neck. To micromanage is to try to control every detail of a project or of someone's work. The idiom breathing down my neck means the boss is closely watching or monitoring you.  This is considered very annoying. Sentence number four, the job itself is rewarding, but the salary and benefits leave a lot to be desired. The word rewarding means something that gives you satisfaction and makes you feel good. You can describe a job, volunteer work or helping other people as rewarding. The idiom leave a lot to be desired is a polite and indirect way to say that it is unsatisfactory. It is not as good as you would like it to be. Sentence number five, I feel like I'm spread too thin, but every time I wrap up one project, I'm given two more, which of course need to be done yesterday. The idiom spread too thin means that you are trying to do too many things, projects or commitments at the same time, meaning you can't give enough attention to any of them. The phrasal verb wrap up means to finish or bring to an end. And saying something needs to be done yesterday is an informal way to say it needs to be done very urgently as soon as possible, as if it were possible to travel back in time and finish the task yesterday. If you're learning English for your career, check out my Business English Course. It will teach you idioms, phrases and vocabulary to use at your job. Visit espressoenglish.net and look for the Business English Course.


The IRS gave me monkey pox. They just gave me a case of the Hebrew Gbz. I'm not sure how exactly it got transmitted. How? But I have my suspicions. Unfortunately, my suspicions have been confirmed. Like during that last IRS audit. They're gonna get an IRS office. When I got totally screwed. Well, I got screwed on the donuts.


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Hello and welcome to the session, I am Deepika here. Let's discuss the question which says population of Rajasthan is equal to 570 lakhs and population of UP is equal to 1660 lakhs. Area of Rajasthan is equal to 3 lakh km2 and area of UP is equal to 2 lakh km2. Part 1, how many people are there per km2 in both these states? Part 2, which state is less populated? Now for this question we will take the help of unitary method in which we first find the value of one unit and then the value of the required number of units. So let's start the part 1, the square in both these states is equal to 570 lakhs is equal to 1 meter square. So for km2 area, there are which is equal to 190 people, 190 people per km2. Number of UP is equal to 1660, that is the number of people UP is equal to 1660 lakhs square area. There are 1660 lakhs for 1 meter square area, there are 1660 upon 2 which is equal to 830 people. Now this part is Rajasthan people per km2 and in UP people per km2. Now let's move to the part 2, it is less populated. Now there are 2 states Rajasthan and UP, there are 190 for UP, there are 8 km2. So Rajasthan is less populated because it is less Rajasthan. I hope the solution is clear to you.


This paper explores the challenges faced by researchers when communicating research findings to participants and the potential solutions to these challenges. The authors conducted a pilot study with adolescent and young adults and older adults to better understand their perspectives and preferences regarding research findings. They found that both groups expressed interest in learning more about research findings, but had different communication preferences and expectations. Additionally, researchers reported a lack of resources and training to help them tailor their messages to the needs and preferences of their participants. This paper provides valuable insights into how to better engage participants and researchers in the process of sharing research findings. This article was authored by Cathy L Melvin, Jillian Harvey, Tara Pittman, and others.


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I'm gonna say affiliate networking, affiliate marketing. A lot of you guys may think, right, this is a scam. That's that that don't work. Well, yeah, the way you're doing it don't work. But at the end of the day guys, all the software package you recommend, all of the stuff you're using, all of the hardware, the program, all that stuff you're using is stuff that you are endorsing just by using it. When you recommend that type of stuff to somebody, then you can make a commission off of it. I wouldn't go too far and too heavy handed with this. Just basically showcase things that you see in my background. My Dell lights, all that stuff. Well, they'll have an affiliate program. Microsoft had an affiliate program. Other software packages have an affiliate program where you recommend people, you take money and you don't have to do it in a scammy way. I personally think once you start to recommend products that hasn't been tested, don't have a use case. 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I don't make a ton of money on YouTube because of the type of... Sorry guys, I'm hitting my mic and all that. Because of the type of content that I do in the style and my frequency.  There's a ton of people who make thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on YouTube because that's their focus, that's their strategy. They're all in on YouTube. I make a little money from YouTube. It's not one of my top revenue sources but it is a revenue source. It is money coming in guys and you can do that coding as well. Showing your code on the screen, doing tutorials, all that stuff like that guy. You can also do that as well. Number four, answering questions on core. They just started a way to make money. You got programming experience. You don't have to be an expert. You just need to know enough on specific problems you've solved in the past and give feedback, answers, details for people who are having those same problems. A lot of people get that confused. They figure, hey, I got to be an expert. No, you have to be knowledgeable about a specific problem and have experience solving it. But you can do that and still be able to provide value even though you haven't been programming for 10 years. You can be programming for six months and be able to provide insight or three months in and on what type of issues that happen. You can make money answering those questions guys. Last but not least, this is one that you may not necessarily start working on right away. Probably not going to be one of the ones you do first but eventually you're going to be able to start making money investing stocks and revenue. Real estate is farther down the line. I'm not recommending you do that right now but if you work for a company who got a 401k, easy money guy as a software developer, that's an option you need to do as well. You notice that a lot of you guys may think, right, these are a lot different revenue sources than what I expected you to tell me. 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