What is going on everybody Astos here welcome back to another video So in this video, we're gonna be doing an overall market update taking a look at the Dow Jones the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq We're going to be doing a quick brief trading update today Although not much movement was in my portfolio, but we're still going to be talking about that and we're also Going to be diving into Apple's earnings today I have a bunch of notes here on my phone talking about some key numbers and metrics from the earnings and for those of you guys That I've been watching the stock after hours. It's going absolutely Bananas guys so before we get into that for everybody out there that finds value in these videos You enjoy the content that I'm putting up here on YouTube Feel free to go down below and hit that like button It really supports me and supports the channel in general and honestly It's telling me that I'm doing a good job and for me to continue to create content here for you guys So with that further ado guys, let's just jump right into it. I don't want to waste too much time in today's video Let's quickly do the rundown on what the overall markets are looking like the S&P the Dow and the Nasdaq We can see here the SPX also known as the S&P 500 the 500 largest publicly traded US companies ended up closing the day up two dollars and eighty cents up point one percent Nothing crazy, but if we hop in here on the one day one minute We can see it did tank really early today if this does want to load Okay, there it is guys. We saw the big gap down all the way to 29 24 But we recovered very nicely from that low point about a 21 point swing We'll talk about that a little bit more in depth in a couple of minutes here The Dow Jones industrial average same thing guys big gap down to 26 400. We hit that support level We popped up nearly 200 points from there ended up closing the day up $38 and 52 cents up point one five per cent. So the Nasdaq I'm assuming it's doing very well here after hours. Yep. It is because Apple is going up like crazy But overall we're up thirty seven dollars and seventy five cents as of right now up about point four eight percent Nearly half eight percent in terms of the Nasdaq So let's hop back over to the S&P 500 guys and we're going to look at some Technicles here that are affirming to me that the uptrend is continuing in the S&P 500 And we can simply see it here on the 20-day one-hour chart, right? We saw how we took that pretty big gap down today to about 29 20 Which was about nearly 30 points lower from the all-time high we hit yesterday of about 29 49 But we maintained a higher low from the previous which is the continuation of the uptrend on one technical aspect And the second one is we held the 50 simple moving average support Which has been a support over the past couple of weeks on this 20-day one-hour chart Which is a very very good sign and to be quite honest with you guys if Apple holds the levels that they are at right now If the stock maintains roughly the 210 215 level tomorrow, you know This in my opinion is going to push up the SPX and we're going to have a pretty big green day Not maybe the biggest green day But we're probably going to push to another higher high and probably to another all-time high into the 29 50s Maybe 29 60s if and if Apple does end up maintaining these levels and popping up the market tomorrow But all in all guys not much to break down, right? We're simply really testing all-time highs again The uptrend is still intact and we confirmed it on the 20-day one-hour chart that it is still intact So hopping over here to the Dow Jones We talked about and we've been talking about on these videos how the Dow has been maintaining this horizontal channel from 26 400 up To 26 800 this 400 point, you know buffer range That's where we've been trading in terms of the Dow over the past couple of weeks And if we see here on the 20-day one hour, we can see exactly what I'm talking about actually Let's go to the 30 day 90 minute. We can see it a bit better, right? We've been trading pretty much from the middle of April to now So pretty much half of this month of April. We've been trading within this range We pulled back again like we saw earlier today in the Dow Jones pretty sizable pullback and the Confirmation of the uptrend just like the SPX is or it has rather been confirmed on the 20-day one hour since we held The higher low from the previous we're pushing up to make a higher high from the previous here at about 26 600 Hopefully if the markets go up tomorrow that will end up happening and that's pretty much it right the uptrend is intact Everything is looking solid right now for the Dow Jones and just like I've been saying in these videos guys We need to see a break out of 26 800 Roughly 200 points higher from where we are right now for the Dow Jones to test all-time highs and in my opinion This is something that can very well happen in the next couple of weeks if the markets continue to stay Strong so that's the overall update guys nothing crazy in terms of a green day here But the uptrend again is still intact just like the SPX We're looking to break all-time highs here in the Dow in these next couple of weeks So the NASDAQ like I said, it's popping up mostly to a good earners report to you know in terms of Apple here We're but we're bouncing on the 50 simple moving average on the 184-hour chart very good sign that this was kind of like a A bullish little pennant here in a way right we can see it was if I can get my little drawing tool Actually, I could probably just do it like this right we can see It was kind of down trending a bit right if we can actually get it right It was kind of doing something like that and the fact that we bounced here on the 50 is a very good sign That we want to continue to push up here But now what I want to see is a break out of this little Downwards trending resistance of the channel that we can see here very clearly from my trend line If we break that tomorrow guys, which it seems like we already are and again if the markets do well tomorrow This is most likely going to happen That's going to be a breakout in the NASDAQ and I wouldn't be surprised if we were to hit another all-time high You know past 78 79 maybe into the $7,900 level if that does end up happening So honestly, you know over these past couple of videos there hasn't been much to really go over in terms of the markets Right, they've been in the same levels, right? They've been really maintaining the same patterns and that really just instills or really it's just maintaining Or really the patterns are the same in today's video, right? Very similar to what I talked about yesterday. The uptrends are still intact. That's all I'm really seeing right now guys So let me know down below in the comment section. What are your opinions in terms of the market right now? Obviously the markets have been going absolutely crazy, right? We're up 20 30 40 50 percent and some of these stocks that hit lows towards the end of 2018 beginning of 2019 I would love to know are you guys buying stocks right now or you guys just simply mostly in cash Are you waiting for a big pullback to hop back into stocks? I would love to know just let me know down below in the comment section So what are we doing or what did I do rather in terms of my trading today? Honestly guys, I didn't really do much of anything new, right? You know that I'm in Facebook and Procter and Gamble, which both did pretty decent today Facebook had a run up to $198 nearly today, right? We saw that but it honestly took a little pullback from there and actually hit all the way to the 192 level very volatile day here in terms of Facebook. I did not add to the position due to the massive spike that we saw here I knew I didn't know but I I kind of thought that we were going to see a bit of a pullback here I didn't think it was going to be this aggressive, but I didn't want to add money here and then pull back Right and kind of get faked out. So I'm still just simply holding my Facebook shares Roughly in the 193 level where I initially bought a couple of days ago. So that's kind of the rundown here on Facebook I'm still very confident in this swing trade. I still plan on holding this one into the 200 plus level That is the plan as of right now Procter and Gamble did very well for me today This is another one of those swing plays that I'm currently in I bought in after their earnings report This one was up $1.70 today up 1.62% and we were talking about yesterday's video how the pullback that we saw yesterday Was not surprising to me right because we saw a very big pop up on Friday I believe it was a 2.5% day from 103 all the way up to 106 and after hours So this pullback was simply a little bit of a retracement, right? We still maintained the trend here on the overall Five-day-five-minute chart and you can see literally the trend line that I drew in yesterday's video Take a look at that guys. I promise I didn't touch that trend line This is literally what I drew yesterday and take a look at how perfectly it played off of that trend line Right if we just extend it a bit It's not going to be perfect, but you guys get the idea here It literally bounced right at the support of that trend line from the pullback yesterday and it popped up super aggressively and That was the bounce zone right from 104 5850 ish higher low from the previous we pushed to a higher high now So tomorrow we might see another bit of a pullback or we might just pop up into the 107 level That is what I'm looking for in terms of Procter and Gamble So to be quite frank with you all That's all I did today in terms of trading, right? I didn't really deploy any new money into the stock market I didn't take any day trades. I'm just waiting or rather I was waiting to see what AMD was going to do and what Apple was going to do so I can maybe Deploy some cash into those in tomorrow's session or maybe in the rest of this week And I actually have a lot of other stocks that I'm eyeing up, right? I'm eyeing up a position in Ford I'm just waiting for the right entry point. I'm eyeing up a position in Google, believe it or not once this, you know earnings You know, they missed in terms of earnings the stock went down a lot I want to wait and see if there's going to be a reversal to the upside on Google for potential swing plays So I didn't really want to force any trades today if that makes any sense and sometimes guys I haven't talked about this in pretty much a couple weeks at this point Sometimes the best trade to make in the stock market is no trade at all, right? Sometimes it's best to just sit on some cash and wait on some opportunities, right? So tomorrow there's most likely going to be a lot more movement in my portfolio And let's just talk about Apple now guys. You saw it in the title I'm sure you clicked about on this video to hear about Apple's earnings Let's just talk about it and see what the stock is doing right now I actually haven't checked it in a couple of minutes here So it seems like we are at about two hundred and eleven dollars and thirty one cents as of right now We popped up all the way to two thirteen So typically when you're seeing a stock move like this on earnings, you better believe a 90% chance that the earnings were good Right, so let me just pull up my notes here I have a bunch of notes about Apple's brief numbers, right? So let's just do the rundown guys earnings per share came in at two dollars and forty six per share That beat the two thirty seven expected by analysts So beat on EPS very very good metric there revenue came in at fifty eight point oh two billion Versus fifty seven point four nine billion expected another beat on revenue So the two key metrics we're looking at for earnings, right EPS revenue Apple beat on both of those I believe their EPS beat by four percent. Don't quote me on that and their revenue not not as big of a beat in terms of EPS I believe it was like one two percent again. Don't quote me on that. This is just off the head Numbers based on what I'm seeing here if we're going down to iPhone sales guys iPhone sales has been one of the key Controversies in this business right the iPhone sales have been weakening China demand has been weakening sales in China Have been weakening over the past couple of months So iPhone sales actually came a bit short they came in at thirty one point oh five billion dollars versus Thirty one point one billion expected. They're actually down from thirty eight point oh three billion from last year's Quarter that is roughly a seventeen percent drop, which is actually the biggest drop in History guys, so that's pretty huge in terms of the iPhone sales a couple of months ago guys I just kind of briefly mentioned that a couple of months ago Apple announced its weakening sales in iPhones in the Chinese market, which comprises the Chinese market That is one-fifth of the total sales from 2018 so you can understand that if a certain area if a certain market comprises one fifth of your business and That market is being or doing poorly rather that's going to have an effect on the business, right? So China sales dropped twenty six point seven percent in the first quarter of 2019 and we talked about the weak Chinese demand right so Apple cut prices of the iPhones in China to Stimulate more demand right which seems to be Working with the sales in China starting to stabilize So I'm actually very happy to see that as an investor as a long-term believer and shareholder of Apple again The Chinese market is a huge market for Apple guys And we need to see China start to stabilize start to grow in terms of sales again For the overall business to continue to to flourish and grow So the fact that it is starting to stabilize there in terms of Apple's biggest product Which just happens to be this device you're seeing the iPhone right that makes me super happy So we didn't only be on EPS and revenue some of the smaller segments of the business including services and wearables they also did Significantly better than the expectations, especially wearables guys services beat It wasn't a crazy beat, but it was a beat They came in at eleven point four five billion versus the eleven point three two billion Expected which is absolutely great right they beat on on the services, which is one of the businesses They're looking to expand right we saw the new news service right the streaming service the gaming service The one other service the fourth one. I can't remember off the top of my head guys I seem to always forget one of the four on you know new segments They're coming out with but they're really trying to take the you know the iPhone database, which is around one billion You know registered iPhones from what I believe and they're really trying to Expand that into different models including these services You know the services business because this is going to be a cash cow For the business in the next coming years in my personal opinion So the wearables revenue came in at five point one three billion versus four point seven nine billion Expected another big thing guys the board has authorized another 75 billion in share repurchases which is very great news and for you dividend the dividend investors out there you dividend growth investors you Investors that believe Apple is going to be a big dividend Payer in the future, which I personally believe as well. They raised their dividend by five percent guys This is very very very big news because people that invest in dividend paying Companies they not only like to see you know a strong starting yield They like to see Businesses that are growing their yield year over year very very aggressively So five percent growth in a quarter if they keep it at this rate That's going to translate to a twenty percent growth in the dividend yield over a year Which is a very very strong dividend growth in terms of a company like Apple, right? So that's just the rundown of Their earnings for ticker symbol a APL drop a comment down below Let me know what you guys think about this I would love to know I know a bunch of you in the group chat were actually holding Apple You know you had some call options whatever the case may be so if you did very well on Apple Congrats to you. I hope it does maintain these levels, and I hope you guys are able to take your profits tomorrow Hopefully Apple doesn't pull a Facebook and by that I mean when Facebook reported earnings a week or two ago Whenever that ended up happening, you know the stock popped up heavily Then we saw a very big pullback on the next day to be quite frank I personally wouldn't mind that because I don't have a swing position in Apple right now So if we did pull back, I'd probably add some shares in my swing account For Apple on a positive earnings report. That's just my style, right? I typically wait until after earnings to see what the guidance is what the earnings are were they positive Were they negative and from there I like to get in on pullbacks. That's kind of what I do here You know in terms of one of my strategies, so Apple that's what they ended up doing amd I'm not going to go too in depth on their earnings because quite frankly guys I don't want this video to be 45 minutes long. So let's just go to their live news very quickly I know they did quite well Let's just see what they ended up doing in terms of revenue or their earnings So if we go down here, hopefully they do have it here it is guys They had EPS of point oh six which beat the point oh five Estimate I believe that was a 20% beat on EPS, which is absolutely Amazing, right? Remember AMD is a smaller cap company guys So that's why the earnings are very in the pennies, right? It's a small cap company The sales came in at 1.27 billion, which beats the 1.26 billion Estimate so that in terms of the brief metrics on AMD is a good earners report So let's just start off with AMD in terms of a technical breakdown, right? We've been talking about AMD in this range that it's been in from $27 to $28 and I was talking about in yesterday's video the past couple of videos how when AMD was going to report earnings It was either going to break to the upside right the upside of that channel above $28 Or it was going to sell off into the $26 level So what we're seeing now is finally some direction on AMD. We're breaking out of this resistance We hit almost $30 here after market hours and now we're pulling back if we go to the one day one minute We can see exactly where their shares are. They're roughly at about 29 or 28 rather 93 so this pullback here You know could open up a position tomorrow, so let's say it does end up maintaining this level I would love to see an entry at around 2850 maybe 2875 tomorrow for AMD on a potential Swing trade, but again, I'm very happy that we're finally showing some Direction here and I was actually reading a couple of articles some analysts do actually think that AMD is Going to hit all-time highs again We saw a bunch of analysts raising their price targets a couple of weeks ago So with that and you know with the you know positive earnings report here from the brief metrics that I saw You know, this could be a catalyst for AMD's growth. So AMD Definitely one that I'm watching obviously Apple don't have to go too in-depth on that because we really just did that Hopefully we get a pullback in Apple so I can get an entry point there What's the other ones I wanted to talk about today Google guys again Google Reported pretty bad earnings. They missed I believe on EPS and revenue right their sales in terms of their cash cow business Was they were down right sales were down the stock tank from nearly 1300 down to about 1188 but now with Apple's good earnings I would love to see if Google's going to end up pumping back up right if we go to the one day one minute We're slowly starting to see a little pop up here We had consolidation pretty much all day today And if we do get a confirmation back up into the 1200s guys That's going to be in my eyes the continuation of the uptrend here and at that point I'm heavily considering a position in Google the uptrends looking nice. We're maintaining a support But I want to see what we're going to do over these next couple of days I do have cash set aside again. I didn't trade today, right? I want to have cash and if we do end up pumping back up I'm going to be taking a position in Google guys. So Google Facebook Apple those are the three main ones that I'm watching here. We're seeing crude oil You know kind of getting rejected by that 50 simple moving average Today, right? We also got rejected by this resistance at about 6450 So ideally if we break that level tomorrow and crude oil I would love to take a position in UWT which is at about $21 and 20 cents right now It's looking like it's maintaining a higher low from the previous very good sign that we're continuing the uptrend Just need to see that break above the resistance for You know crude oil. So guys those are just a couple this video I want to just mostly focus on Apple right. Let's throw some pot stocks here very quickly, you know, CGC We haven't talked about that one in a while. This one's been roaring, right? It's breaking out of the resistance at $50, you know, this could potentially be a play You know crown is slowly starting to reverse to the upside, right? Just keeping on this 180 SMA break that can be a play as well again This video was mostly for Apple and my plans in terms of that stock So I'm going to end off the video right here guys if you enjoyed the video Feel free to go down below hit that like button subscribe to the channel if you're new and hit that notification bell So you're notified every time that I do make a video if you enjoyed this video again Feel free to drop a comment. Let me know what you thought about it. What do you think about earnings? What do you think about the market right now? I would love to know so I'll catch you guys in the next video I hope you all have a great night. I hope you all did great today. Good luck tomorrow Peace out. Have a good one. I'll catch you all in the next video


This is the OTP presented by Farm Bureau Health Plans. Get a quote today at FBHP.com. You can also learn about Farm Bureau Health Plans 77-year history in the volunteer state. That's FBHP.com Farm Bureau Health Plans. I'm Mike Keith welcoming you to the OTP for the return of Amy Wells. Hi, Mike. Well, wait, you're actually on the OTP. I'm actually on the OTP. It feels good to be back. It feels really good to be back. But you're not actually back because of snow, pollution or whatever we're calling this thing. You're still at the homestead. So you're back at work, but you're not back at work. I'm back. My heart is back at work, but my physical body is still in my house. Yeah, this has some shades of 2020 to it, being at the house doing the OTP, having not seen you in a really long time face to face. It all feels like a dream that I've lived before. But it definitely, it feels good to be back in the swing of things, even though we are all very snowed in here. We got a lot of snow at my house. I don't know. Did you get a lot of snow, Mike Keith? I want to say it would probably be 10 inches to a foot where I am. Oh, you got more than I did. Holy smokes. Yeah, but I mean too much for the South nonetheless. It's a lot of snow. So once this clears up, I'm ready to physically be back in the office as well, but it feels good to start thinking about Titan's things. And start to do some planning for the off season. It feels really good. All right. So let's back up and bring everybody up to speed on Amy Wells. They knew you were going to have a baby. We mentioned it many times, a second child in less than two years, barely over a year and a half, right? Not even a year and a half. 17 months apart. 17 months apart. Okay. So September, we're through three games when you go on maternity leave? Yeah, we were. I was hoping that I'd make it through week four. Was that the Indianapolis game in week four? Week four was Cincinnati. Okay. Cincinnati. That's what it was. I was hoping that I would make it through week four. I really wanted to work another home game before I left. Baby girl had other plans and she arrived a couple of days before that game. And so I've been out ever since and I have been just enjoying the Tennessee Titans as a fan. Which has been a very strange out of body experience, but also very fun. And spending a ton of time doing mom stuff, just getting lots of baby snuggles and trying to keep two babies alive. And it's been chaotic. It's been hectic. But it's been awesome. So you have two children under two. If two children under two. It is not for the faint of heart. There's, there's a lot of moving parts all the time. But Livvy, my oldest is. Loving being a big sister and is very helpful or as helpful as a toddler can be. Gentle isn't something that we have mastered yet. Gentle. Yeah, no. So if you can be helpful from a distance, that is ideal. And Kylie just recognizes that she's going to get hit in the face sometimes. And that's just how the world works. But she, it's been great. The two get along very well. But there's a lot of moving parts in my home right now. I hear at least one, if not two of them screaming. So there you go. Wow. But people ask us. Is she going to come back to work? Yeah. And the answer was absolutely 100%. You are, you're coming back to work. You are, you are committed to, I guess I would say this lifestyle. It is a lifestyle. I mean, you've made some choices here, but, but it's important to you and you like to work and people love what you do. So they're excited that you're coming back. I definitely like to work. That was something that was very important to me. Was finding a way to be able to do both because I adore my children and I have really, really enjoyed this time home with them. It's been great to just kind of focus on doing the mom thing for a while and really just enjoy these moments when, you know, having a newborn is just the best and they're little and they're tiny and they snuggle you and they smell so good and they're squishy and they're just great. And my older daughter Livy's at a really fun age where she's learning to do a lot of things really quickly. So it was really a gift to be able to be home and be around her a lot while she's learning five new words a day it feels like and is becoming more independent.  It's been really fun to be a part of however, not even however, that's a complete thought. Also, I have really missed work. I have so missed being a part of the day-to-day with the Titans. I have missed being around, of course, all of my co-workers being around you every day bouncing ideas just off the walls and having this thought or that thought, talking about different things that are going on, hanging out with Ashley Ferrell and Jack Mummert and everybody who I get to just see back and forth the people in other departments being able to just that camaraderie that you have being in an office all the time. I've so missed that. And then there's the football of it all. I miss going to practice. I miss getting ready for games. I miss the strategizing and trying to figure out what a certain game is going to look like. I miss covering it. I miss the interviews. I miss the stories. I miss all of that stuff. So now I've got to figure out how to do them both at the same time. And it's going to be an adventure. It's probably going to be more chaotic than anyone in my family for first for a while. But we're going to figure it out and I'm excited about this chapter. It's going to be crazy. It's going to be absolutely crazy. But in the best possible way. And I'm so excited to bring these two lives together because there's something really special about when you're able to make them work and kind of feel fulfilled in both ways. That's very exciting. You know, a lot happened in the four months you were gone. Yeah. There's some stuff that went down, huh? Yeah. There's a lot that went down. I mean, you essentially the weekend that your second daughter was born, we got to two and two. And we said, oh, this is great. We're two and two and didn't go so well after that. We went to London. That didn't go great. The trip was great. We had a wonderful time seeing Titans fans everywhere. And yet the game, not so much. Saw preview of what the Ravens team would become. And not surprised that they have become really, really good. And I think they're going to be really, really hard to knock off. Although Houston has a weird chance this weekend. New quarterback. Maybe the end of the Derek Henry era. New head coach on the way. Mike Raible no longer the head coach. So I mean, so much has changed that as when you finally do get over Snowmageddon and you're able to come into the building, you will. I mean, it's not like it was. No. And that's it. It's a very strange thing because I've still been obviously tuning in. I've watched every game. I went to a couple as a fan. That was really fun. You mean, you mean listen, don't you? Yeah. Duh. Well, you said watched. You said. I'm like, there's a chance that I might have turned on the television once or twice. There's nothing wrong with turning on the. I did. I was one of those people that turned it down and listened on the radio. Really hard to do, by the way. Complained about the delay. We're, you know, I'm thinking up as an art. I'm going to make it our off season mission. How to figure out, and it's different on different networks because of the delays. Well, and that's and was streaming and everything. Well, and like in the stadium, if you're listening to one, oh, four, five, the zone, you're getting it in time. But the people who had listened on the app were getting it 15, 20 seconds late.  It's like, no, it's just, it has to go somewhere else to come out. And so we're just, I'm going to make a point to figure that out for people, because if people are kind enough to try, let's do better. I don't understand the technology, but we have people who do, and we're going to figure that out. It really isn't art for, because obviously I've never tried to do that before. And every single week, people talk about it. People talk about how they've been able to sync it up and they figured everything out and they have a special algorithm and formula.  And so I tried to do it. And honestly, Mike, for a while, I would just mute the TV, not really look at it unless I needed to see a replay of something and I'd rewind and I'd listen to you for the most part. But that's not right. I mean, I'm sure there's a way to do it. There's a way to do it. You and I might not be smart enough to figure it out. We're going to figure it out. You have my word. We're going to figure it out. Like I said, I know some people were listening on like the Titans app and they were very upset by the delay. And that's probably not going to be the way to do it in stadium. No, oh, no, I wouldn't do that instead. If you're seeing more walls. Now it is going to the app is nice. Right. Like my wife was out walking. I guess we were in Houston. She was out walking. And so she was listening to the game on the app. And when you're doing something outside, it doesn't matter if it's 20 seconds late. I mean, that doesn't, and if you're out of town or driving in the car or whatever, that's, I mean, that's not a bad thing, certainly. But if you're in stadium, if you're at Nissan stadium, it's, I would understand why it's a pain. And we will do better. I promise we will do better telling you the difference. Now, if people actually follow that, that will be the trick. Well, yeah.  I can lead a horse to water. Mike. Well, but. I could see, I could see you not following it. Oh, no, of course not. No way. Did enjoy the in stadium experience overall. As a Titans fan. I've seen it in such weird chunks. The way that you and I interact with a game is very different. When I'm on the sidelines, I don't have any of my senses. All I have are my eyes and you in my ears. Sorry. So I don't hear. I don't hear. I don't hear. I don't hear. Very nice. That wasn't a complaint. So when I'm taking in a game, I have no idea what's happening in the stadium in my periphery. Usually I don't even know if people are standing next to me because I'm very using my eyes to do this thing. I. So I've never really taken it all in, especially from a vantage point where I could see the whole field get out of town. There's always a whole picture of me with all my eyes and ears and nose. I'm in the game. I'm in the game again. I'm with their six big contenders and I watched the game. And I just. Loved it. Did you watch what Ramon Foster was doing on the sidelines? Like a. Like a hawk. Did you really Ramon. Anytime I turn on the TV, I'd be looking for him on the sidelines. When I went to a couple of games. I was watching him. He'd go up and down. him different places. Nobody likes watching a game with me, because I point at things that seem very obscure. I'm like, why is that guy limping down there? Who is that? What happened to him? Nobody enjoys what I have to say or my commentary when watching a game. But my family was very nice to watch it with me anyway. Did you go to, like, Duncan or the grocery store or somewhere and somebody would come up and ask you how you thought the season was going? All the time. All the time. All the time. Which was so nice, because I just, I felt very included, which was so kind of people do. Felt a little bad. I don't have any insight. The same place that they're getting their news, I'm getting my news. I'm reading Jim Wyatt's story.  I didn't have much to say. I mean, of course, I have opinions and I'm happy, happy to chat. But I didn't know anything.  So, but it was great to just talk to people about the games. It was great to just talk to people about the team. Lots of places that I went that I ran into Titans fans.  It was so great. It's such a cool community, old Titans nation.  And even though I wasn't doing the same things that I usually would be doing, it was so nice to see people have them say hi, check in, ask about the baby. And then talk some Titans football, you know, that's the good stuff. I've got a couple of things that we wanted you to comment on during the fall that you weren't available to comment on for four months. So you're going to have your chance after I mentioned our friends at Duncan again, grab a coffee and kick off the action, whether that's drinking a cup of coffee on your way to the game or grabbing one to go before watching the game at home. Duncan is always there to help you get your game on. Just like the pros, we need to be at our best come game time, which is why Duncan is the most important part of your game day ritual because it's always the best call for football. America runs on Duncan. So does this mom? Moms run on Duncan. Moms run on Duncan. Highly caffeinated. All right. So what was your view? Everybody has expressed views on the whole Taylor Swift thing.  You're basically one of her neighbors. I am basically one of her neighbors. She went to Hendersonville High School right down the street. Yeah. Okay. So what do you, I mean, Tony Dungey, I think says it's the end of the world as we know it. He says it's taking away from the game of football. Some people are just annoyed because they're football purists and they don't want to see her. And then the Swifties are of course elated. They want to see how she reacts, how she acts with Mrs. Kelsey, what she's wearing, which game she comes to. Many of them didn't understand that Kelsey couldn't leave practice because practice is mandatory according to these reporters in order to join her at an award show.  Which is kind of where I am because I like her. I think she's a nice person. I think she's immensely talented. I'm happy for all of her success. I'm happy she has a boyfriend. I mean, she's got a boyfriend. So good for her. That's what I say. It's not hurting anybody. And of course, the league is so smart. They're taking advantage of every part of it. I mean, if, let me put it to this one, if an alien spaceship landed in the middle of an NFL stadium, they would hope it was the Giants and the Jets stadium to start with or in Los Angeles, but that's another story. But they would say, welcome aliens. Here are good seats. Enjoy the game. We're going to put a camera. I mean, they're going to promote whatever it is to promote the game. So with that as the backdrop, what did or do you think? I'm glad you're asking me this now and not when it first became a thing. Because when it first became a thing, quite frankly, I thought it was an act. I thought it was fraudulent. I thought it was a setup. I thought it was a setup. I thought that the whole thing was just a little too convenient timing wise. You know, it's the middle of the season. Travis Kelsey is in every commercial on television right now. I mean, he's promoting every product that exists. So I thought that that was a little strange. He's a very hot commodity right now and now he's dating the most popular person in the world. Just very convenient. But now, as time has gone on and they are still together, and I mean, I think it's kind of nice. I mean, it seems like a lovely delightful relationship and I'm okay with lovely and delightful. Do I need you to give it to me every minute of every day for all times forever? Like, do I think that the morning news and I mean, pick pick your news, it doesn't matter, should have like a daily Taylor Swift segment. No, no, I don't need that. I don't think that's important. Do I think that we should have like Taylor Cam during games? No, I don't really need that either. But you know, you're gonna get that. I know I'm gonna get that. It's the NFL. They're not dopey. Oh, no, no. And I think that's fine. And I think more from like a, from like just a casual, like a fan, just kind of an outsider looking in. It's nice. I'm glad you guys are together. It seems like a fun little Hollywood romance, you know, it's the football players dating the popular girl. But from a business perspective, I think it is genius. I think that there are so many ways that they being the NFL, they being Taylor Swift, they being Travis Kelsey have just turned this into the most beautiful marketing business plan I have ever seen. It is just delightful. They miss no opportunities to promote each other themselves. Like, everybody's making money off of this relationship. And I think it is excellent. That I think is so good. Like, even Kyle use checks wife who made the Jersey coat, which was great. Yeah, he plays for San Francisco. His wife, she goes up like a hundred thousand followers or something, because she put together the Jersey, which was actually kind of cool. I thought it was really cool. And the more he makes it, the more orders she gets, the more money goes into his bank account. Like this is genius. So many people are making money off of this relationship. It's a goldmine. And that I think is really great. Like that is what interests me. I mean, do I care if they're happy and living their best life together in Kansas City, Missouri, of all places? No. I mean, I hope they're happy. I hope that this is delightful for them. But they're going to live in Kansas City. Because he may retire. His brother's retired. That man is not retiring this year. You stop it right now, Mike. He's 34 years old. He's 34 years old, still playing great and making so much money. That's the amazing thing is the fans who talk about, and I loved all the videos. And I don't know if they were real or not, where the women were talking to their husbands about who Travis Kelsey was and how they've come. And I think some of them were clearly set ups or spoofs of what. But I do think it was happening in some real homes where some of the women were saying to their husbands, now this Travis Kelsey, I don't know if you know this, but he's a really good player. Yeah. Oh yeah. I mean, his salary this year was 12.5 for a tight end. He's going to his ninth Pro Bowl. He's going to the Hall of Fame. He and his brother are both going to the Hall of Fame. I mean, he may give it up. When his career is over, he ain't living in Kansas City, especially if he's with her. Oh, no. No, that's not his permanent home, although he does have a home in Kansas City. Sure. Sure. It's a good place. I'm not knocking it. And that's a weird thing too. I'm from Missouri. I have a lot of friends who live in Kansas State. My sister lives in Kansas City. They're a lot. It is very bizarre to me that Taylor Swift is running around. Casey Moe. Like that is odd to me. I think she shows up at like Jack Stack. Like you would think, I mean, girls got to eat. Where else are you going to go? I mean, there's the part of this where she is a human. Yeah. And there's the part of this where she is a character and my brain can't put the two together somehow to think that this person is in Kansas City dating a player, which yes, is a celebrity and all of that. But like, he's a tight end. He's a tight end.  We've been to things like that. I've seen him around. He's been so just like, oh, yeah, there's a guy. But now he's dating Taylor Swift. And now he's like this elevated thing. He's not just an NFL player anymore, which our celebrities in their own right, but like are just kind of also our coworkers to an extent given the nature of our job. Travis Kelsey all of a sudden is like Brad Pitt. And that's weird. The whole thing is just a mind trip.  Like I just kind of spiral and start watching all of a sudden I'm watching cat videos and I don't know how I got here. Yeah, I can go pretty deep if I really think about it. But the business of it, Mike, so many people are making money off of a singular relationship. Incredible. Incredible. I just I like her. I've always liked her since she was a teenager. I think I think she's phenomenally talented.  You decide you I just like them.  I can. But but it's not like I know them all. I certainly can't sing the ball. Oh, you probably could. If you had gone, you didn't go to to her show, did you? No, no, my daughter went my daughter. My daughter's actually been to a Taylor Swift concert, but never seen Taylor Swift. She went to the Sunday night show that was delayed several hours by weather. And she had to leave before the show started because the person she was at the show with had to be at work the next morning at like 4 30 to open. Oh, no. I've got to get her back to see to actually see Taylor Swift. Yeah, you got to get her.  I mean, the whole thing was amazing. And just an athletic feat, really. And so I mean, as a performer, I like her. I like her personality. I know I would say 98% of her songs. I knew more than I knew I knew until I went to that show and was just singing for three hours. Oh, I know all of these words. So yeah, I definitely a fan of her. I hope she's happy. That's all I care about. She's money. She's very famous. She'll be famous for the rest of her life. If I mean, if this works out this guy, she deserves to be happy. That's all I think something I never thought I would talk about on the official Titans podcast. I hope everybody knew we would have to have this discussion with you at some point when you came back. It was quite hard having all of this unfold, having it be the biggest NFL story of the year, arguably. The biggest story of the year, whether it was admitted or not. Yeah. And I'm sitting in my house with a two week old who cares none percent about my thoughts and feelings on the matter. Kylie doesn't care. She just doesn't. So I'm glad we could finally have a phone in. You know, I thought about it a couple times, but every time I like had the time and the baby was sleeping, it was the perfect storm, you guys are talking about something like really serious. And I hated to like call and be like, Hey, I know you're talking about this really important thing. This is great conversation. Can we please segue to Taylor Swift? I didn't want to do that to you. Well, it's a big deal, too, because she's from here, because she she went to high school here, and she still lives here. Yeah. When she's not a kid or New York or California or. Yeah. You know, those places she hangs out. Yes. Seat geek is still the official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. They were before you left and they are now that you're back. Whether you're buying or selling tickets to Titans games or any live event in Nashville, Seat Geek is the place to do it. Seat Geek, the new official ticketing partner of the Tennessee Titans. So Titans fans and fans. You remember how to do it. Well done. I remember how to I was afraid I'd forget. I don't know. So what questions do you have for me? After four months, I know you probably have some football questions or other questions that you'd like to share. Go right ahead. What questions do you have for me as you return to the OTP and the OTP to hear you? I mean, I just feel I should relay the questions of the people. Is that okay? Whatever you wish. Well, a lot of people would like to know about the search for a new head coach. I've been asked this question before. What exactly does that process look like? What is the maybe a vague timeline? Do we know? So I would think the earliest the Titans could have a head coach would be late next week. And late next week would be January 25, 26, 27. Yep, you're right. Okay. I think because of this, because where we are right now, if you are interviewing coaches who work for NFL teams, whether they are in the playoffs or not, you can only do it by zoom.   I said, Here's the reason that they've done it. The reason that they've done it this way is so that coaches who are still in the playoffs on winning teams who go to the final eight, go to the final four, go to the Super Bowl, don't completely get boxed out of their chance to be in the hiring process.  But you bring in Brian Callahan to interview last week. You sit down with him, you go, Oh, this is our guy, we think you do the rest of the interviews. And then you come to Sunday or Monday of this week and you say, Let's hire him. Well, then a coach on the Baltimore staff or a coach on the San Francisco staff or on the Detroit staff or teams that are still in it, they don't have a chance. Right. So what you're doing is you're slowing down the process and you're also saying that the Rooney rule applies to in-person interviews as well. In-person interviews for NFL employees cannot start until after the divisional round, which is next Monday. And Zoom interviews don't count towards the Rooney rule, because they want you to bring in candidates and give them a chance to impress you, just like what Mike Tomlin did with the Steelers, just like what Rand Carthon did with the Titans for the general manager's role.  So you have to do these things in person. So if you're setting up the interviews next week, you've got a set number that you're thinking of in your own mind, because you've got to do some things, and then you've got to go through the process. Theoretically, you could go ahead and try to make a hire the end of next week, or you could go into the following week. And things would open up more after the championship round, because during the bye week, the coaches on the Super Bowl teams have the flexibility to do some interviewing themselves. So you don't have to. It could be the week of January 30th. Could be that week, or it could be late next week at the earliest. I mean, it could go a couple more weeks, theoretically. But those are how, what I'm laying out for you, just how the rules are set up, which is how the timetable is going to be produced quite organically, because of how you have to fill those things. Titans have, I think, multiple more Zoom interviews that they're going to do before they figure out who goes to the next round. Well, what we know for sure is that Amy Adams-Strunk and the crew that she's put together, they're going to do their due diligence. They will leave no stone unturned, and they're going to make sure they find the best guy for the job. So I think, on one hand, you want to get this done. You want to get someone in place so they can start putting together their staff, and they can start doing all of that. But on the other hand, you want to make sure you find the right pieces, and you want to make sure that you've talked to the right person, that they're right fit in every possible way. So going by the rules is important, of course. We got to get the right man for the job. The rules are good. I think the rules that force you to take your time a little bit to talk, yeah, I mean, you could just sit here and say, okay, we're going to interview four guys by Zoom. We're going to cut it to that at this point. And then we're going to bring them all in for in-person interviews. And we're not going to waste everybody's time. And it's like, no, you have this time. Talk to everybody you can. Learn as much about, I mean, it's like the accelerator programs that they do, and they're going to do one at the meetings in May and Nashville here at the NFL meetings in Nashville coming up. Those things are so good because the more people, and it's good for the candidates, obviously, because they established their own network, but it's good for you too to have a frame of reference because, hey, what if you're hiring somebody in two years? What if you're going, okay, this didn't work, or something happens and you have to make a big hire, and you've met people, and then you have a frame of reference, not just talking to this person's buddy or this person. You want to have your own frame of reference in order to make all of these decisions. The more the better. The more knowledge of this, the better. And I think you would be making a huge mistake if you didn't take advantage of this Zoom time. You really, realistically, should talk to close to double-digit people during the Zoom time? Why would you not? Why would you not? Right. Why would you not? I mean, all it is is time, and you know you can't go to the next round until after the divisional games this weekend, so why wouldn't you? Expanding your network is important, I think. And I think Amy has done such a good job of that, and we saw that with Ray and Carthon, and that hire, that was a product of having a wide net, taking advantage of every networking opportunity that she could to meet people, talk to people, see what's out there, and I mean, look what came of it. So I think, plus it's just nice to have friends, you know, Mike? Well, and that's it. I mean, and so you could pick up the phone too at a certain point, and you could tell a fellow owner, hey listen, we spent a bunch of time with this guy, and he didn't fit us at the moment, but man, is he good. You know, that you can sort of serve as a reference for somebody to get that opportunity and to get that next step. As you sort of create that next generation of leadership, you know, so many of these guys who are interviewing for jobs right now are in their mid to late 30s. You know, they've just gotten to the point that they've arrived in early 40s as well. They've just gotten to this point, and you know, some of the older coaches have now moved on, and so this becomes their time and their opportunity, and you know, it's exciting. You've seen a lot of positives come out of these rules and the league saying, okay, let's try to give everybody an equal shot when they get into these circumstances, not only the teams, but also the candidates.  But you know, they could slow it down even more. They could say that you couldn't do in-person interviews until the week off between the championship games and the Super Bowl. You know, and that would make it even more. And that may be something that they do in the future.  But this thing, I think, is a really, really good thing because in seeing the Titans hire coaches over the years and hire general managers, they have gotten more exacting in what they've been able to do, largely because of the rules. You mentioned the next generation of coaches. I would like to talk about the next generation of quarterbacks, because it seems that there's something a brewing with the Tennessee Titans. Tell me about Will Levis, what I miss. I think what you missed is you missed a guy that showed all of the traits to potentially be the guy. And that's the most important thing right now in the discussion with Will Levis is you have seen enough from him, in my opinion, that you move on to 2024, feeling like he's going to be your starter and giving him the right to have the keys to the car and let's see what he's able to do going forward. That does not mean he's the quarterback of the future forever. That does not mean that he is automatically a franchise quarterback. It doesn't mean that. And there are those in the discussion who feel like when you say something positively about Will Levis, that you're saying, oh, he's definitely it. And that if you're not positive enough about it, then if you're just couching that saying he did well, we're excited to see more of him, then all of a sudden what you're not telling us is you don't think he's it. It's like, no, it's neither. It is neither. It is as the Titans make their plan for 2024 and beyond, he gets the next shot. And you feel good about him. I think he has a real chance to be that guy. Now, what's his offseason like? Does he does he have an offseason like Vince Young did after he was rookie of the year and come back his second year and not play as well? Or does he improve? What does it look like? Can he expand his game? Can he take coaching? How will he be as the offseason leader? How will he be with an offseason of it being his time, really for the first time in his entire life? Having a couple of bucks in your pocket and you're not married to a school calendar or to a workout calendar all the time. Those are the things that you have to see. But did he prove that he is worthy of giving him the next step? Yes, he did. Do I like the way he played? Yes, I did. He played quarterback. He didn't just run plays. He played quarterback. I like what I saw. But if anything in this thing for a while has taught me, it's that you don't know until you see the development. You don't know until you see the adjustment. You don't know until you see the progress. So do I think the Titans are drafting a quarterback high in 2024? I don't. I don't. Because they have the shot to know that, Amy, if this works out of Will Levis as the second round pick and he does become the franchise quarterback, then you've hit a goldmine. You've hit an absolute goldmine and he has given you enough faith to take that shot. And then if year two doesn't work out, if there's a regression or there's a problem or whatever, then you have the right and the money to go on and do something different. But for now, I think that's what you're doing. I mean, that in golf terms would be hitting the three iron down the middle in terms of a comment instead of pulling out drive. But everybody wants to pull out drive. Everybody wants to make it one thing or the other. And it's not. And if you're the Titans, it absolutely shouldn't be. Long answer, sorry. No, that was a great answer. I feel very caught up. I want to talk a little bit if you've got the time. I have. Yes, I do. That's so good. About the roster in 2024, it's going to look a lot different than it did in 2023, right? Maybe not. I mean, the roster looked a lot different in 2023. It sure did. I mean, turned over about half. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I mean, I think there's we've always said that the average turnover for a roster is 13 to 17. When you change coaches or general managers, and so that's roughly a third of the quarter of the roster to about a third of the roster turns over. That's just a normal year. When you change coaches or GM's, that goes up over 40%. I think it's probably going to be 40%. I think it'll be 20 ish roster spots because I think a lot of guys will come back in their same sort of roles, but with a chance to do more, or they will come back in like, I think some of the offensive linemen will come back in different roles, maybe not as a starter, maybe they're a starter, maybe they're not. But they showed that they can play and they can help you. And so you want them to be part of your team. That's a change in the starting lineup. But that's not a change in the roster. I think I do think the starting lineup will change considerably. Yes, I don't know that the roster will feature as high a percentage of change because I think they found some guys who can play. And you need, it's often been said, the roster's really divided into 13 or into three parts. One through 12, your very best players, regardless of position, 13 through 40, guys who are active on Sunday and making things happen, some pushing to be in the one through 12, some improving to become a starter and some just sort of maybe on the back end of a starting career, now they're backups. And then 41 through 53, which is the guys who cover kicks, your specialists, all of those sorts of people that kind of factor in. What you want to do is you want to be as good in all three areas as you can be. You want the best one through 12 you can possibly have. You want the most solid 13 through 40 you can possibly have with guys busting at the seams trying to push their way forward. And then you want the most active, talented, athletic 41 through 53 you can find. I think in all three areas, Rancarathon, Chad Branker and Anthony Robinson, the guys who run personnel, I think they are looking to improve in all areas. And that, you know, you are going to see some guys in that one through 12 who turned over, which means roster changes.  And the Titans have a lot of cap room this year, a lot to work with. Ton of cap room, a ton of freedom. They have the ability to go do what they need to do in a variety of areas. Trades are certainly a possibility that they draft picks, they don't have a third round pick. They'd love to have a third round pick back. I don't know where or how they get that. You know, that could be dropping down in one of the first two rounds. If they get to number seven and they have a pool of four or five players that they would like to have, they might be willing to drop back to 10 in exchange for somebody's three. You know, somebody's desperate to get one of the quarterbacks Titans. Again, in the philosophy, you don't feel like they're going to take a quarterback at seven.  I mean, from a Titans perspective, you should probably hope six quarterbacks go in the top 10. I don't think that's happening, but that would be, that would be what your hope would be because that makes number seven more valuable. And remember, what you got in the third round last year was Tajé Spears. So nobody can convince me that a three is not important because he is, to me, he's one of your top 12. And he was a third round pick last year. Yeah. Mike. Did we do it all? Did we get it all?  Well, we've got a lot to do. I'm going to hire a coach. Yeah. Excited about that. We think we're going to Senior Bowl. That's the plan. Kind of matters when we hire the coach. We love Senior Bowl. Mack and Red are ready to go to the Senior Bowl now. Of course. Bust out your matching sweatshirts, boys. We're going to Mobile. I hope they don't wear the matching sweatshirts. Oh, they will. Step brothers. We've got to pull out that picture again. It was so great. Pretty OT people. Yeah, they had no idea how many hits that picture of them. Step brothers picture as we call it. I love it. But yeah, I mean, last week was a tough week for Titans fans. And I get it. And it got a little better every day. And now you're to the point where you're turning the page and you're saying, who's the coach going to be? And I would say this about the coach search.  You're not hiring somebody who ran an offense or a defense. I wouldn't spend a lot of time judging what their team did in the first round of the playoffs based on what kind of head coach they're going to be. And the overriding fit of a head coach is about a lot more than just being a football coach. I've been around a lot of head football coaches that it has driven them crazy how little football they actually get to coach. Because they are so busy, making sure the coordinators have everything straight, working with the general manager on personnel, doing the things in the building that they have to do administratively, doing PR things. They, all first time head coaches would love to be coaching more football. That's what they'll end up telling you. In the end, the good ones learn the balance. And they learn to say no to certain things and then they find the balance. But they would still tell you they don't coach as much football as they did back when they were coordinators. Because the other things that are required, you've got to talk to the owner. You've got to talk to fan groups. You've got to do the media four times a week. All those things that are requirements of the job. Being an administrator and an organizer is a big part of it. Being somebody who can be a communicator with everybody in their world and outside of it is part of it.  Like Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift doesn't need, the band is important, but she's front person. A really good head coach is a good front person. So as you evaluate the candidates, I would encourage the OT people to look at it from a much bigger, wider view, 30,000 feet for sure. Because that role and look at the number of people who have been head coaches before.  So as you hear, so these things are out there, and I think you always want to keep those things in mind as you're looking for the head coach. Not how many yards they gained or how many yards they gave up. They wouldn't be in their roles if they weren't pretty good overall. Everybody has games where your players are not at their best or you're not at your best, whatever. So I'm not meant to give a lecture. I just think it's a bigger discussion. And having seen it for years here, when we have focused on one thing, we have not picked head coaches that were as good. Yeah, I think perspective is important, especially in that role, because you see such a small amount of the whole of what that role requires. So, don't think fake folks. And the other thing too is, I mean, and Rand Corathon said, well, we're not hiring the next head coach, we just will live us in mind. And that's really smart. Because even if you hire one of these guys who has a background on defense, plenty of these guys can go out and hire a great offensive coordinator, great quarterback coach, and you can be absolutely just fine. I mean, certainly nobody was complaining about the offense here from 2019 through 2021.   To me, that's what it comes down to, Amy. I think that was the year, if you asked me, if you had not seen or heard any of the 2023 Titan season, my description of it to you in a sentence would be, our talent wasn't good enough. Yeah, I think that's fair. Well, that's what, whenever you lose the game by a play or two plays, yeah, generally the underlying thing isn't a call by the official or a game plan, a game plan or a play call or whatever. I mean, there are certainly all things we would do differently in anything we failed in, but most of the time it's the other team was better. Yeah. And for several years, we were better. Six straight winning seasons seem to win virtually every close game, but our first 12, pretty good. Our top 12 was pretty good. Our 13 through 40 was pretty good. Our 41 through 53 had guys who were coming on all the time. This year, just not enough in any of the three areas. To me, that's what it came down to. And now we've reached the time of the year where we can go and address some of those things. Well, it's like the commercial they ran after the Super Bowl that Steve McNair starred in 20 years ago, the minute after a Super Bowl ends, they cut to Steve McNair in a white bathrobe sitting out by a pool and he starts singing tomorrow. And then they cut to all these other people singing tomorrow because the bottom line was now that the Super Bowl was over, tomorrow starts the next year. And we're almost to tomorrow. We're almost to the point.  They won the division and they were bad, too. There was a real thought they might have just won one game. There are teams that go from being down to being right in the middle of it in a hurry. The Rams did when we played them. They won four games the year before. We played them in Super Bowl 34 the next year. I mean, that's the beauty of this league. We just got to keep pushing for tomorrow. I can't wait. I can't wait. Well, you'll have to. No, I think actually tomorrow. I'm leaving my house tomorrow. I hope. Fingers crossed. Fingers crossed. But we've got a lot of good stuff coming up. Well, we did. And most of all, and I want to say this honestly, the best thing is you're coming back and we're glad we've missed. It feels good to be coming back. I've missed you all very much. I've missed doing this. I miss the OTP, man. Of all the things we do, I love this podcast and I love the OTP people. And it feels so good to be back. I can't, there are not words to describe how good it feels to be back. And I'm ready to go. Ready. Well, fortunately, there's a lot to do. There's a lot to do. As the OTP people can tell you, there's a lot to do for the Tennessee Titans in this offseason. There's going to be a lot of good stories. There's going to be a lot of news. There's going to be a lot of fun discussion. And let's go, man. I mean, it's time. Let's just go. The countdown to Indy begins, Mike Key. We're going to the Combine in weeks. Yep. Senior Bowl first. Senior Bowl first. For the returning Amy Wells, I'm Mike Key. Thanking you for joining us for the OTP.


Okay are you worried that this stuff will be your legacy at the end of the day because it's it's you know I said this leading up to the fight and and and it was bothering me that people were talking about you in a certain way and I tried to remind people hip surgery you don't need me to defend your honor but like but you know what I've already said this to you Ariel we've already discussed this topic but now that it's over are you no no no we discussed this legacy is stupid legacy is something that people shouldn't really be concerned about because you should just be worried about what you're doing on a day-to-day basis like moving forward what I'm gonna do I'm gonna keep trying to coach the main kids and change the main lives as I can and and if I somehow long-term achieve something and people want to think back on me favorably or unfavorably then they're gonna do that but you can't determine what other people think and you can't let what other people think dictate your actions and so I've already told you I think legacy is a relatively stupid concept from from a self perspective like I'm going to do this because of my legacy I think that's that's a really negative thing for people to actually think about so I try not to think about it ever for myself so you but you don't sit back and say like man you know when I'm 60 is this going to be the first line or is this going to be the foot ever ever that's good and you shouldn't you really shouldn't it's it's counterproductive to your current life to think about what people what people may think of you in your future life and just like literally do do what you want to do in your in your current life and if it fits your morals and standards and if you can stand by it then stand by it and if you think you should do none of the things then go do other things and that's it but to think of what is someone going to think of me in 30 years that's kind of productive and so you have won way more in your life than you have lost however and I hope you take this right away you're one of the best losers that I've ever met in the sense that no one you handle defeat and you don't just lose you have lost twice in a very you know public and spectacular way and you handle it better than anyone who taught you how to do that because I mean I so I would just say the thing that taught me to never ever be um I mean I think I think my dad was probably a big influence of like not being scared just go go freaking do you know um but yeah I think I think that was probably a big influence because I wasn't good I wasn't good in the beginning so it was like I'm just gonna go compete as much as I can if I lose I lose and then I'm you know I'll just keep moving from there and then I probably I probably should credit a little bit to the fact that I'm slightly autistic I think that's like allows me to just like be in the moment with whatever I'm doing right now


Thank you so much for keeping us company times for politics now. We look to the commission on revenue allocation to 47 counties. This very day the Senate will be having a special sitting to try to solve the problem that has been there. The president has called on the senators to make sure they solve this matter. So the majority speaker of the Senate, Samolupo, gives you a call on the meeting that will be happening this very Monday to see the allocation of the revenue, how it will be addressed. And there is a looming problem due to the alliances to different leaders. That is the president, the ODIM leader, Reloadinga, and the president Uhuru Kenyatta. There could be a problem on who to support on this particular issue. Send us your comments or questions to all our social media platforms at Y254 channel. I'm speaking to Sarah Sidlitzo. He's a political analyst at Richard Derrick. He's an aspirant MCA of Ugenya. Good morning, gentlemen. Good morning. It's good to have you here this Monday. Yes. And even as we look about, we talk about politics and what is happening, please someone tell me, do you want to see my youth or leave my office as a Ford, Sarah? See, I'm a youth and I'll speak also as a youth. In the reality of the matter is that youths have become an asset for hire, not to do the good, but just to do the bad. To push someone's agenda of few people's agenda. And then after they have pushed their agenda, they are never to be seen. So that has remained the role of the youth in the society. It is a high time that youths we should be focused. We should know what we want. We should fight for what we want because sincerely speaking, being hired just to go throw stones just because of political differences, then that is something that is backwardness. We need to style up. We need to grow. We need to be visionary because they say we are the leaders of tomorrow. And some of us, our tomorrow is today. We don't have another tomorrow. For those youths who are being used, it's high time, style up, do the right thing for your community. Because we formed the largest percentage. The population we have, the youths have the majority of numbers. These numbers are not used twice. If we can turn that energy into something that can transform our economy, then our economy will grow and we shall benefit. Thank you. Derek. For a long time, when it comes to politics, we will see the youth demonstrate. And by the way, is it our upbringing that hakihetu niku tupamawe, hakihetu niku andamana, hakihetu niku vandalize? Is it the same thing that will happen even to generations to come? Well Hilary, first of all I think we as the youth, we've been marginalized because during the campaigns you see people dishing out 50% over 100%. And this is the only way the youth can handle it. While the government is promising jobs, which other jobs apart from cleaning the roads till our leaders, not even leaders, our politicians, because in Kenya we have only politicians thereafter their own gains, till they realize that the youth can do better than cleaning the gutters and cleaning the roads. Till then there won't be any stability. See, they have to empower us. They say we are the leaders of tomorrow, yet in appointing people. They do appoint people 55 and above. What will happen to us the youth? What will we do apart from being hired here and there? They are writing off billions by mumiasuga kq. Why can't they write off billions to help by the youth? The youth who are jobless. Have the youth placed or have they used a position themselves to a position where someone can say, he's a good leader, let me mentor him. Are our politicians doing that? Absolutely not. Our politicians are not doing that. They only care about themselves. You see now leaders from Mount Kenya are running. They have seen that elections are coming. They are gearing up for the elections. They now realize that the youth are part of the nation. They should empower us as soon as right now instead of us struggling, hustling out here, because we are the youth initiative. What happened to Vision 20 Party? The youth could have been placed better in the society. That's true. There's something you're saying. We've been set aside as a marginalised community. You see youth as a community on its own. We need to be mentored and nurtured. But the question is, it's not a bad idea, it's a good idea. There are those youths like me and him who are here who need also to be nurtured, you know, the other. But you see, majority of other youths, wherever they are, they are not thinking the same line we are thinking. Because they are sycophants. They are mediocre. They are there, you are a youth who is here. Who brought you here. It's your own brain. Somebody not to hold your hand and bring you here. So it's high time we as youth need to take very serious steps in life. Nothing comes on a silver platter.   Because if you are there to be hired and used, then why should not be hired? Even if your fellow youth will come and hire you, so that you go and make news for him. He campaigned. And I believe he used the same youths. He has smart people. He has smart people. He is sitting on the table discussing. He has other youths, 100 youths. He has 10 smart people on the table discussing on how to win the election. He has 100 youths somewhere in a corner who are there singing his name, shouting his name to make sure that the name remains relevant on the ground. So why do we do so? Because these youths are there for them to be used in that way. Because they have decided to be used in that way. Youths, it's about time you wake up. It is high time for the youths. And I speak as a youth. I'm not yet at five. I'm still a youth. And I speak as a youth. It's high time youths make radical steps in their life. Because if you don't make radical steps in your life, no one will come to make a step for you. You have your own fit. You have your own brain. Make a step in life. Okay? Alright, thank you. Let's now move to what is happening. And actually I've seen it has caused an uproar the commission on revenue allocation to counties. It has brought a problem because the proposal now goes for the numbers, not the land mass like it used to be. An example that many people are lighting is Kiambo. Kiambo has a lot of people. Compare it to Wajia or Garisa. Those big counties in terms of square kilometers. But now the proposal goes for the people who have, the counties that have majority of people will be given a lot of the bigger percentage. But it's causing a problem because we have the people in the Koso region. They support Baba politically speaking. And then we have a region that also supports Baba from the other side, let's say Kisumu. So the Koso region will reduce the revenue according to the proposal. Now do you think this will bring the problem to the handshake, Derek? Well certainly it will do. And this will require the Senate to soba up and make appropriate decisions. Not based on the political stance. Rather on the equity and fairness. Once they do that then everything will be sorted. Because right now counties like Garisa, they are marginalised. How do they expect the people there to survive? They have to do it as soon as possible. Or else the county operations will be stagnant. Siras, is there a looming problem? There's a very big looming problem. And at the moment, as we start, I don't want to look at and I don't want to peg the problem on the handshake thing. But I want to peg the problem on the house, the August house that is the Senate. And when I talk of the problem being the Senate I have already said the problem we have in this country is not the president, it's not the position leader. It's not any political leader. The problem we have in this country is the August house. Be it the National Assembly, that is the parliament that hosts the MPs and the Senate that hosts the Senators. This is where the biggest problem is. And it is a high time we shift our blame from the leaders, the president, and then remember we have three, in governance, we have three organs. We have the judiciary, the executive and the legislature. These are independent of their own. And executive sets place policies that should run the country. That the ministers and the PSS and any other way including the president. The judiciary ensures the law that is in place is well followed. We adhere to the rule of law. And if you don't adhere to the rule of law the judiciary is there. Then we have the legislature. The role of the legislature is to make the laws. The laws that are protected by the judiciary. So these are the arms of the government. But one arm of the government has decided not to play its role. They are supposed to play its role. But to be a signatory to the executive. So this is where things are going wrong. But when we have the legislature, that is the MP and the Senators doing their role they are supposed to do as it is and the constitution. Then we will not have all these problems. And having... I used to hear something they say one man, one shilling, one vote. That is what has brought up to all these things of distribution of resources to the counties. You cannot compare Nairobi County and Garisa County. You cannot compare Keambu County and even... Let me say Viga County or even Huma Bay County. They are not comparable. Why? Keambu's population is bigger. Why? It is also closer to Nairobi. There are people who live in Keambu but work in Nairobi. Because the housing in Nairobi is very little. That is why the population of Keambu is bigger. And as we grow, as we go by, the population of Machakos will also grow bigger. Why? The proximity to the capital city. Because right now even Keambu will reach a time they want to be space for people even to have housing. They will be housing problem in Keambu. So we will see Machakos is still a virgin place. So people will now be commuting from Machakos to Nairobi. Okay? Because of proximity to the capital city. This is the capital city. As much as we have other cities but this is the capital city that drives the economy of this country. Okay? Where the finance basket is in Nairobi. So everyone, there is what you call rural urban migration. So people are migrating from rural to Nairobi. I come from Tungoma. I come to Nairobi to do what? To get a job or do something or schooling. The essence of devolution was very simple. To ensure we have we first regulate the movement of people from rural to urban. Okay? If at all the senate which protects devolution could have sat down and looked into this in the better way. Then the migration of people from rural area to urban areas will be come. But it is still high. Why? We have not even worked on devolution the way it is supposed to work within the constitution. Manis have been allocated to the counties. Okay? But the problem is the oversight body that is the senate does not play its mandate well in overseiting the manis that have been channeled to the counties. The office of the budget OCO used to give reports on how manis have been spent. We only seen very few governors being called to the senate panel committee just to explain how they have used their manis. But you see no substantive report has come out to the public. I want you to hold on that thought of becoming there. Derek, do you think the new proposal now that has been put in place the senate will be addressing it? Do you think has the spirit of devolution? Well Hilary certainly he does but then what we are looking at here is we have to cushion the imaginary counties the allocation of funds. Like currently we were using the 2009 population censors and the poverty levels. In order to maintain equity the same has to be used. Or we have to use the one recommended by the commission. Because here we are looking at a situation whereby some of the senators actually will not cast their votes on this one because of the administration because of the various political terms. But then we have to look at the common monainty here. Because you see that the way he says here has said the oversight is what is here. And there is a lot of misappropriation of funds. Accounting like only having 10 ICU beds while the governor is building White House worth 75 million. Misappropriation of funds and the Senate is supposed to oversee that. If the Senate is not doing the mandate what do they expect? It's us the common monainty that will suffer most. So they have to sober up and they need to be fair and they need to be equity. In order for this to work out. And the sooner the better. You are mentioning about the misappropriation of funds and just to mention we have a few counties that will be benefitting from this new proposal. We have Kiri Nyaga, Baringo, Bomet, Westporkot Kaka Mega, Bungoma, Machako Tmbu. We will be some of the people benefitting from the new proposal because we have more money coming to the counties. And I remember from the first chair council of governor chair the former governor for Bomet. He was advocating and actually came up with the chama he needed that pesa machinani. We have COVID-19 to address we have counties that have not even matched to the 300 beds yet they need more money. We have money coming from the IMF and other donors. Now the government will be giving more money to these counties. Will we still experience the misappropriation of funds? We are here to experience a lot of misappropriation of funds. One, the money, remember the government give the counties monies. As it is stipulated in the constitution we have a world bank go to each and every county. These are all the world bank places in each and every county. Then we have revenue collection from these counties. Then we have also that those let me say like a country let me say for example a country like Denmark, a country like US may decide to go in a county to support it in one way or the other. Now what we should hear in the Senate is the discussion of monies because it's all about development in the area. Devolution was meant to see that this development in the counties what is found in the city should also be done in the county. That's why I mentioned rural urban migration to reduce rural urban migration. For example if the counties in western Kenya that is the north region could have seen that we have a city called Kizumu. If we can empower we can sit down as governors and as senators from this region and ensure that this full development in this area and then have some things in Kizumu that are replica to Nairobi we shall reduce rural urban migration from this region and mark you by reducing rural urban migration and empowering the counties what you are doing is also increasing your revenue collection. By increasing the revenue collection in your county you will be able also to have other funds on your adding to what the national government is giving you because when you go back on revenue collection Nairobi collects more because it is the city and also the population Kiyambu also may collect more because of the city and the businesses that people have set there so in businesses are set in the counties if manufacturing industries are set in the country in the county for example the Panpepa in Webuye if it was well refurbished if it was put into operational how many youths will be employed in that county a number of youths will be employed how many farmers will plant trees so that they can people can have the trees and send it to then how much will be collected as revenue then we go to the sugar companies because that is a sugar belt area we go to the sugar companies we have so many we have so many sugar companies in that region so if these sugar companies have been now they have started doing the operation the operation have started how many revenues are you going to collect and how many employment are you going to create we want to have youths tamaking in Nairobi going to industry area where we have a few companies because most of the companies have crossed now when the senators go on the floor of the house and they don't put their focus on such things then devolution is meant to fail devolution now we remain all about having governors who will only think of what will be of me come after my 10 year time elapses ok that is now what will remain on devolution we will only be having those regional kingpins regional leaders having those people who have ambitions of being presidents and they have done nothing in the county so if senators we will sit down and look into these things ok very well in using a microscope then we shall be safe we shall be protecting devolution but we are not protecting devolution because of the failure of the senate in oversighting so these are some of the things that we need to do and voters should also be informed know the roles read your constitution know the roles of your MP of your mc of your senator so if you know these roles they are surrounding the constitution then we shall be safe it is also our role we as the voters to protect what is ours now Derek he has mentioned about voters knowing the constitution you also mentioned of the poverty by 2009 census I am sure if this proposal goes through we will have a political statements of we need to increase our population just like they call for big numbers when it comes to voting we hear our region we are few we need to have numbers do you think it is the same thing that will now start happening to counties maybe the politicians in certain regions and when they speak calling for numbers you will understand is that what will happen there is a great school by the name of Thomas Sowell Thomas Sowell once said a politician is one person who will align his self interest seem to be like a national interest definitely we should expect more that because the type of politicians we have majorly they care about themselves but then the one inch is the one suffering the numbers the numbers matter more money to the counties we need numbers but then the counties are not utilizing the funds if they could have utilised the funds then as and he said here there could be urban rural migration because a county like let's say Kisumu Kisumu can take care of itself and the people around there but what are the youth doing there the youth instead they are migrating here look at a population like Madari it will come at time in 2022 whereby you will see politician flocking around Madari because of numbers because of numbers we need to empower our people the numbers matter yes but then it will only matter after the people we elected do whatever is needed of them we are running out of time we have you just mentioned the rural urban migration and the youth are there this new proposal do you think it will favour the youth in the spirit of devolution and even as you respond to that we have 22% to health the earlier interview I had here we talked about primary health do you think this one has everything that we need let me tell you one thing the proposals are being brought right now they are not better than the proposal we had in the earlier constitution the 2010 constitution they are not the proposals are being brought right now they are only centred on numbers ok and you see when you centre yourself on numbers fine also have a bigger perspective these people come after 5 years they use their numbers to vote me in or to vote this government in ok now after voting me in or so and so in what are my roles what are my responsibilities my responsibility is to assure there is good health in that area and good health is not all about hospitals hospital should be should have water clean water sanitization because that is under public health sanitization ok then good schools good schools also with good health ok there should be food because a child who goes to school hungry will not perform a child who goes to school hungry will be malnutricious and then we end up losing so the population will lose because there is no food to eat there is no better health there is no clean water live on electricity first of all but let us look at these basic things good health good education good water now we want to give our children better education we have facilities so if for example a county will go because we have ECDs we have and I have always said we have ministries in the county minister of education minister of what are their roles now if a county assembly will sit and discuss about a health within that county and come up with mechanisms of implementing the idea how many health centers will they have in a world enough to cater for a population when a county assembly will sit down and discuss a bill on education education does not only touch on the child so it touches on the teacher it touches on the subordinate workers it touches on the school amenities so if all these things are well discussed in a better way then we shall have a good society no matter how many billions will be poured in this country will be distributed in the counties but with poor management and poor oversight because we have a manager and we have an oversighter when all of them become poor these monies won't do anything they will end up in people's pockets alright now finally do you think this new proposal favors the youth the youth that we have said right here to wake up well the youth shall never be favored not unless we stand up for ourselves you see unemployment rates actually the president developed some kazi kwa jana initiative the youth are complaining they haven't been paid where is this money headed to till when our leaders will know that the youth the work not only we need to develop a system whereby the youth are favored we are the leaders of tomorrow and in order to address a problem you need to get to the root of the problem of which the government is not even trying to do we need to better our healthcare hospitals the way he said nutrition education when you look at the VAT on books the VAT is too high compare it with the betting of which the betting was scrapped off is the government favoring literacy or literacy once we are literate then we are headed somewhere see they need to favor the youth mostly alright and we are out of time but the senate will have to sit down pass the proposal or fail it we will wait and see whether it will be happening or not either way we sit here we point where there are problems and the proposal where there needs to be changes but anyway thank you so much gentlemen for coming and sharing your opinion apparently we had little time back home thank you so much for keeping us company they have been my guest Ugeniko Siaia right? exactly and political analyst Seiras Elite so thank you so much for being part of why in the morning I'll be seeing you later in the day with the updates for covid-19 and news highlights in the evening keep it white if I find you the rest of our programming many misderiva hilawe good morning