And here we are once again I'm very exciting chatcatch it for I've listed this to myself as the extra credits if I think it's the one regarding Was it the Never do like character that species or races that are like just evil Remember it's the one that like everyone hated I Think they even try to argue at one point It's just bad writing. Oh, I think yeah, I did say it's bad writing. It's bad.  I don't know they said low-key Like they were they were saying some stuff that got a bit loads of trouble Yeah, that one that one was a didn't go over well It's kind of funny because I generally like when you give the the evil You know, I kind of prefer it when it's a little more complicated than that But I mean, it's not like a fundamentally broken idea to just have a flat-out evil faction. I Just well, we would have gone over in that stream. There's there's so many elements to Do I find it's neither it's neither a necessarily good or bad idea it all comes down to execution Not sure which order there's I couldn't quite tell so we're either doing these from the end to the front or the front I'm sure Yes Her heart's out we can add this that's one of the best Lines from one of the greatest movies of all time. Do you guys remember that? I do remember suicides. Oh, God That's suicide. Yeah, it took me a while. It's like The audience need to understand the stakes They cut her heart out that means they can kill it. We got to have Rick say that He just grabs will Smith. He's like her heart's out. We can add this God movies terrible There are 40k sub factions that are genuine good guys the Yanmari Yanari, sorry The lamentors the farsight enclave to name a few they just aren't any good nation slash races. I Know nothing about 40k. Nothing. I don't know about it. So yeah Heresy the tau deserve to be purged More 40k Yes If long videos means there's something wrong with you then there's something wrong with red letter media too. Oh Yeah, I mean there's some of the original long as they Introduced all people to the idea of making a video longer than five minutes you're reviewing something It was horrifying to a lot of people I can But efforts have since gone as far as making 10 hour videos, you know Sure if you put all of this one of the What was that I was gonna say if you put all of the Picard reviews in order that probably amounts to what like set a six seven hours Oh my god The season I guess probably yeah It's almost probably like that's way too long if you're just trying to tell people you don't like it. Thank gosh I've seen Zabatari, but no Written in stone by some guy Some guy just went out to rock calm did you videos comfy longer than this Any of them regardless of the topic. Yeah Will you ever read super chat sent during premiers I So the Boba fat ones I collected them all up and we did them in one go on a on a catch-up stream I figure I'll do the same for Kenobi as for premiering my main channel videos and obviously whatever those guys if they do that they make their choices too But I tend to respond in the live chat. I'll add the person you like Thank you and answering the question That's how I've dealt with premier super chat so far Explaining a past super chat if an orc can choose to be evil and attacks you you need to fight him If an orc has no choice in being evil and attacks you he still needs to be put down The difference is one of worthy of hate the other only of pity Suppose so it's gonna be down to a lot of factors, but yeah, you're still gonna need to kill it if it's trying to kill you I Can't even remember exactly what the main issues extra credits took with the concept I think their thing was that to to suggest that there is an intrinsically evil race has connotations in the real world The problem is It's not a quibble and it's a fictional world And it's a bit but like evil is it could just mean, you know like How mosquitoes evil it's like kind of well, I guess I guess it's the I it would be that um There was like zero agency on the part of the evil race. They're just all evil intrinsically Like we've defined it as evil evil can mean a lot of things and can be fulfilled by a lot of things If someone said mosquitoes are evil I could understand what they're saying Yeah, yeah, I guess I guess the main one would be that you just it's not real life Like drawing these parallels feels odd. Yeah, not everything in a work of fiction has some incredible Dastardly connection to the real world in some way Considering getting a ruby fan to talk about iron wood I got I got nothing for either of those things. I'm afraid Molo, which genius was your first run in EG to mine was Ivan everything was on fire constantly Oh evil genius to I think mine was It was the scientist lady the tech lady I'm trying to remember who I went with Well, because I think the other one was like basically Margaret Thatcher was one of them and then the fourth one I come I think I went with science lady as well. I'm trying to remember So the geniuses. Yeah, there was basically the I'm I think Ivan was the dude with there was there was dr. Evil Like basically dr. Evil and then Ivan was like this general dude And then there was a scientist lady and then there was Margaret Thatcher Yeah, I The one I chose could I think she boosted scientists in a yeah So that was that was Zelika that was a name. Mm-hmm. Okay. It was fun. I liked it. It was fun See blood-borne for what happens when humans and cosmic entities try to be friends I'm not I'm fine not understanding them also. 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You guys ever see the daily gondor spoof articles if not you should punch that into Google images right now. It's great. I Have seen some of those.  No, no, no, no, they're making a remake PS5 I'm wondering if they're gonna act if they're actually gonna have the the gall to change story lines I think they will I would try and make Joel Joel more obviously evil in the end That's what my thought to they because the last of us to really requires Joel to be Like evil when he isn't so I think something I guess right from what I understand It is in-house so it's being made by Naughty Dog. It's not being outsourced I Feel was uh, oh, and also it's a remake so it's not a remaster.  I Mean that's a I don't know man. Like does that game feel like it's old enough to warrant a game's less than 10 years old I don't feel a technology the mechanics in the game on even like they haven't advanced that far like I mean like the clear one would be Final Fantasy 7 I can understand why you'd remake that like that game was on PlayStation 1 The graphics were really rudimentary You can you can more there is there was much more of a reason why you would want to remake that to capture the scope of that game from what I understand about that game The last of us like if you release that on PlayStation 5 people say like the graphics are a little dated But I mean it's still still looks pretty good. Yes, it looks fine.  I don't want them to now, but like no I can at least see that But like the last of us feels a bit. I Don't know if that seems odd. You think that especially with the resources that would need just make a new game Like just make something totally kind of yeah make a new thing Well, it's been nearly a decade since their last new thing. So maybe the beam counters have decided that's more profitable I don't know. I mean they might be I guess it's less of a risk But like the last of us was a risk when it came out and it became like the best-selling game I think until Uncharted 4 and then the last of us 2 did not top a lot of it for on their best-selling game list Yeah, I guess it's just it It's not clear thinking about it It's like yeah, the last of us was their last new thing and they used to make new things really regularly They'd have like a game per generation Crash and Jack then Uncharted and the last of us like oh guys come on make some like like science fiction game was on I don't know make a gamey game again. It's been a long time since you made a gamey game Make a game. That's like a game. Oh crazy Well, we are definitely especially when it comes to seemingly PlayStation Well in some the act still makes gamey games like spider-man is a gamey game It's got gaming mechanics and all the games I play are gamey games I feel at this point go. I just want to sit down to play a game Well, I guess it's just um, I I think that I Muller would you say that God of War 2018 is a gamey game even though it's still, you know going for like the cinematics That's that's that's one of those ones that's Straddling the line It's more of a game than the last of us is as far as I'm concerned But it's still in the realm of like man. This is very cinematic Well, because God of War 3 is like that's a gamey game. Yeah, sure. That's still in that era I guess it's just um, you know when you look at like Devil May Cry 5's got its super slick cutscenes and hyper polished graphics, but like When you get control of the game, you're playing the game. They let you play the game I just kind of want to I feel like something happened in the seventh gen where it's like No, you need to marry the gameplay with the cinematics is like, please don't just give give me the cinematics and then give Me the game so that I can like, you know, they're clearly segmented parts where I don't get control stripped away But um, I don't know. I think I think they still want to keep making games like the last to us, too That's the direction they're headed in damn If Marvel actually cared to make money instead of an agenda, I feel like a red Peter skull clean your room Bucko versus evil cap would be a success It'd be funny as hell if they like leaned into the meme and had Jordan Peterson voice him They aren't orcs they're Ewoks Quinton told me. Oh, no Yeah, get it straight. Yeah, that was a weird part of that video from What would be probably early 2020 now? Abyss is plane of origin for demons on from DND Okay For the demons live hmm extra credits is making some disgusting judgments. Does he ever consider that being evil is just part of orc culture? Yeah, why is he so bigoted? Re-fucked up Question more than some of your old soma videos you praise Stirling for his takes. How do you feel about his current content? Jim Stirling was Fantastic back in the day at their best Super great consumer advocacy highlighting lots of problems really You know in that same sort of camp of really pushing for more of an awareness amongst gamers of the business models and Yeah, consumer advocacy, which is super valuable My steam just went off. I'm assuming I Can hear you so I think it might be no steam steam's gone off for me, too. It's no connection. Is it Wednesday my dudes Well, it's Wednesday over here. So I might be it might be why steam does a weekly little Thing. Oh, right. Yeah, we just crossed into Wednesday actually 10 minutes ago So it might that might just be their quick little daily reset thing Fair enough. Yeah I remember quite enjoying each gym positions that came out and found it relatively informative back when I was very into just easy gaming news and stuff like that combined with old biscuit videos These days I find it incredibly difficult to watch anything from that channel Fortunately Yeah Yeah, we're just fine channels can change and grow and stuff But it's I'm not even sure if I'm still subscribed But if I am I'm not watching anymore like not like, you know out of spite or something It's just like I haven't wanted to select law RF oh oh, maybe we shouldn't tell the fans the bigots if they don't like our movie Disney kills him Who's RF? Oh, oh Oh, oh What they got there? Yeah Disney kills him. I do not know been too long I'm sorry.   It's just like How does that even work? How do you build anything? Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with that but like obviously it's a difference between a species like an Orc and a whole civilization Reasonable first-order officer does this movie need to be four hours long Zack Snyder kills him Questions get you choked on the ceiling or whatever That's Kylo for you That's Kylo Oh, yeah, yeah, man, he's just Chopping things up grabbing people.  That's that's Vader. I Like how that's his only character trait is just confused That's Kylo red I'm gonna put an end to this argument with logic orcs aren't evil because they're the orcs orcs are corrupted elves You kind of a good orc because it's the process of corruption that makes them exist Well, I mean, you're just talking about the world building. He wouldn't argue with that. He'd just say that that's like bad Yeah, that you shouldn't have written it that way. I don't think that there were really many appeals to Logic within the world because the problem is it's kind of hard to when you could just have any concepts That explains why this is the way things are After people witnessed a real-life Odin Thor and Loki would they not immediately convert to Norse mythology They'd realize the Vikings were right So well, you'd have people who would convert but you'd also have people like me rags and for you who'd all go so they're aliens They're not their aliens. They're not gods and it becomes a lot more complicated now that we have Egyptian gods We're gonna have Greek gods Egyptian gods seem to be just like legit magic and well and also like the ancestral plain Like that's a place that exists like for real So the the myth all look like whatever the black panther Wakanda religion is is real in the yeah Basta's like a real god, I guess Doesn't Mark doesn't he go to the because Mark Spector is Jewish So I think he goes to something that's akin to I'm not super familiar with a religion But he goes somewhere that field of wheat. I think that's part of the Jewish religion as well So it just seems like any and all religions Like no religion is gonna be afterlife could say They were probably wanted to deny anybody's at this point now. Well, that was well easy in the fields of wheat, right? Well, I guess that's what I'm saying is I think the MCU just has a whole bunch of different religions and mythologies that exist at the same time I don't know if they're not they're not ready to explore Yeah, how faith would change in a world like the Marvel Cinematic Universe that's filled with the aliens magical beings Because all of that if any one of those things occurred and like if we found the aliens I feel like that is gonna influence basically all religions or like at least a lot of the major some of them So you have to count for them and and then it's like okay You got aliens and then you include magic. It's like magic like man Magic is like that causes things, you know that you're gonna have to talk about with a lot of religions Yeah, I don't think but it's it's Marvel. It's safe Like there's not gonna be any exploration of any of these things. I'll just all coexist at once consider the The evil spirits dragging him to hell and multi-physomanas.  Yeah, Marvel aren't gonna Marvel can barely get like You know walking from a building to another building straight, so Good luck with them trying $10 to hear the eFap crew do their best anime girl sounds No anime girl sounds Well, it would just be like short little anime noise like It did that's that's just all it is So the two of us is just like nah like, you know what let me give them 20 samples We have to make up for your lack of engagement But uh, that's what that's what it is It's just like it's once a now imagine all those noises but with close-ups of Anime eyes and the little like the lines You know I'm talking all those little lines that go around in a circle around the outside of the panel That but that they sort of vibrate just a little bit as if to imply like stress or motion when nothing's moving Do that does it not piss you off that for three makes Loki look like a dummy No, I know I Remember that was a that was one of the I got a bit of pushback for saying that I think Ragnarok does line up with his journey overall Cuz it's it's that film was essentially Not not like hugely focused on but it's definitely like one of the core parts is just thought coming to understand What it means for him to be like the king of Asgard Because now he has to you know Odin's gone as guards fallen and so it's all just like re You're gonna be the king, but in your own way like that's kind of that's kind of what they were going for there At least it seemed like before endgame kind of yeah, I think as much as everyone praises the infinity war scene I think it's made better with Ragnarok's existence I think so I'm not really sure that that scene makes a lot of sense if Ragnarok doesn't happen And if Thor doesn't have what happens to him occur in that film and we've gone over it before but Thor does have a lot of subtle Comedy lines that are quite fun And even his opening appearances. He's a funny guy Yeah, and you can argue he's breaking out of a shell to some degree Well that's what comedy is maybe how he copes with a lot of situations There's I think that's weird stuff in there nonsense stuff like him getting electrocuted by that stupid device doesn't line up at all It's weird to me that they chose electricity as well. It's like you really want to use that to subdue Thor Loopy poison Well, you find a way to leverage something like so many kids about like he's forced to compete if he wants to XYZ Like maybe even get access to a ship, you know Well, maybe you can find a way to have Sif in the story there instead of her just being absent and back now Yeah, maybe that's why Sif wasn't on Asgard was because she was doing stuff and that brought her to Cicart But yeah, like there's issues I take but like Loki in that show in that movie I mean You just look at it. He's defeated by Valkyrie in a one-on-one. I don't know if that would it might count as evidence of him not being his Pop speed man because he should never even be in a position where you can I've talked to this for like I'm even a little bit disappointed with his death to Thanos.  I wasn't even focusing on the God part. It's the mischief part that Yeah, yeah, exactly.  That's it And in the same way, yeah, I probably would have preferred him getting taken down by Valkyrie in a more satisfying way But for example, I like the Thor getting the device on him by Patton is back Yeah, I think that Loki is Tricking the trickster. Yeah, and he's just he's learned from all the times they've interacted and and then that conversation is also It's kind of what Loki's been looking to hear from Thor for a while in a way So I don't think he would have expected because it does think he thinks of Thor as like a dumb brute Like I find that satisfying but I'm trying to think of any other examples. I mean thought is pretty Loki does pretty well in the third act Yeah You rags domestic chat abuser and ruiner of grandma No He says no No, no, yeah, no Mjolnir refuses to be moved by unworthy people through Yeah, that goes in the new movie Well, we just need to know what she was doing in her past that would get her to that position Bring you talking about the flood. They're not a race. They're a parasite Can you also say that about you know what never mind also hi, John? Yeah, I mean the flood the flood are a parasite did I call them a race? I mean they are sort of Spore thing Well, it's kind of the problem with like the term race because like there's a difference between a race and a species Like in reality. Yeah, the only reason we use race in the context We do is because we only have the one species of us that exists Well, it's just what all human beings regardless of our race Yeah, it's like in Middle Earth an elf is not a human like they would be at their different races Well, they would be a different species but like in the context of a fantasy setting amazing They even say the race of men Yeah, I guess I guess it's just that I'm generally when you talk about Well, then you say alien races like in mass effects So you'd have like the Asari and the the Torians would be considered. Yeah, it's almost like you would It's almost like a setup for dialogue between an alien and a human is like you call different colored humans different races But they're still human and they'd be like, yeah, it's just like a colloquial thing that we developed before we met other species Well, yeah, I mean I could easily imagine. Yeah, it's um, yeah Are they actually different species? Can you breed with them? Is like, yeah, do you share a planet with them? It's like, no, no, no, they're all human. We're just different flavors and we yeah, it's just Yeah, I would be I would be surprised if other species out in the you know, the universe didn't have similar Like words for I mean they probably it's one of my pet peeves with a lot of science fiction stories Is um, like for instance and think about it with halo sang hilly is the planet sang Helios is the planet the sang Heli come from it's like, hmm, you know, it's like if you name the planet humanity like There is a lot more to it, I think than it being that simple Because there's plenty of context in which that can happen perfectly reasonably especially the naming convention is controlled by other people I guess to push it forward a bit a further pet peeve of mine is like Oh, what it because what is the language of the sang heli the elites? It's sang heli. It's like well, they'd be more than one, right? Like if I'm to believe that different planets will if they if there are sentient beings that evolve into different cultures They would you know, I would imagine that an alien race would have as many languages and as many cultural subdivisions within their own Species as humanity. Yeah, aliens and works of fiction are often mono cultural Yeah Which works for simplicity sake, but you know, if you want if you want to go a bit further until a bit more World building try to implement some more language. Well, you don't need to come up with languages. Just maybe Create more cultural subdivisions within an alien race Also, do you both say species instead of species? Did I say species? Oh Now that it's at the forefront of my mind I've always said I think I say species. I I probably I probably alternate a little bit But I think I generally use species. I think I say I'm not sure now that I'm thinking about it You've polluted you've polluted my mind with the focus But I don't know. I don't know which one I typically use. I think it's species But species probably happens.  Game stonks, what's that doing these days? Game stonks. What is game stop doing these dead? Oh Oh They're still worth a hell of a lot more than they So for reference prior to like the shorting stuff They were averaging like three or four dollars for like a year and then it's shot all the way up to like 325 Share they're still at a hundred. So if you bought before the rally, you're still up like Probably 5x if not more But it's never hit the peak that it I sold all my game stop currency dig by crypto Yeah, and that's uh, well, I guess hey, maybe there'll be another Bump down the line somewhere. That's right. You never know bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. If you don't play you don't win Just the EFAP does not offer financial advice on I have I offer plenty of advice I I know there are no there's none of that financial advice On the on the EFAP show no by low sell high Diversify your portfolio Make money Communism by the numbers was way worse and communism keeps more people in abject poverty Why did that come off? What no idea? That's always good to remind yourself. I guess Civilians question battle of New Orleans New Orleans, sorry was that part of like the Mexican-American war War of 1812. Oh, it was that Did you Jackson was a general there Yeah, I because I just looked it up I never did I didn't know because I all I know about the war 1812 is that the White House got burnt down And then it ended in a stalemate But Yeah, that ended in an inconclusive military draw Fascism happens once communism fails ask China Okay, what you're talking about China number one In response to the vampires under communism such capitalism, I think they would thrive under Librit Libertinism, I don't know if there's a different thing or if they're going for Libertarianism I think the thing about vampires is that they're typically very shrewd and politically aware and very savvy business wise They have almost like a mobster kind of vibe that they put out So they could probably thrive in any economic situation. Yeah Vampires with yeah, whether it was if it was under capitalism They'd have all these businesses and corporations and underground things if it was under like socialism or communism They'd get into that upper class of people that you know, pull all the strings if it was libertarianism I don't even fucking know they just do whatever they'd be in their castles. They're spooky castles on mountains And that would just be okay. I don't even know But I think that you could put them in a variety of different situations and They'd be fine Which is one of the things that I think is very appealing about vampires this they're very charismatic and socially aware and A vampire in one part of the world would be completely different than a vampire in another part of the world But they're very versatile and very social Like imagine how you might have back in the day, right? Renaissance era one of the popes is a vampire, right? He's controlling all of this stuff political and religious and da da da and he has all this influence and In this society and he's vampiric and he doesn't he can't go outside or whatever. So maybe he plays it off as like Some sort of a mark of god or something or he he makes sure that he always is Doing having midnight masses, shall we say all kinds of stuff? You could you could change all of these characters to vampires and they are they how they make it work could be really interesting You could make a vampire story in basically any era that exists of civilization And it would it would work be at ancient times to science fiction Are any of the things that you think wouldn't work? Like where you couldn't put a vampire? No, I'm more so curious because you said like you could put a vampire anywhere and it could work It's like well, what couldn't you put anywhere and it would like fall apart isn't that just a matter of the writer I suppose I guess in the sense of it's way easier to make it work and be plausible instead of saying like Oh, actually the pope is a Tyrannosaurus rex You know like oh you have to work really hard to make that be Like a thing, you know, whereas like oh, he's a vampire He looks like us and he talks like us and he's charismatic and you know things of that nature But yeah, I suppose there's a lot of things you can make work in a lot of ways but in terms of it being more easy to do plausible plausible plausible and um I guess narratively interesting For a lot of people vampires are very versatile in that regard A big fan of empires Um There you are playing your favorite fantasy slash crime game when suddenly boom You're in all slash black. Okay. That's to be fair. That came out of extra credits. All right You didn't ask for this. You didn't want this You didn't choose this is there a The line Um Oh god, there you are playing a d&d. But all of a sudden you're an orc. You didn't ask for this You didn't choose this yet.   It's like Jesus christ $10 to hear the e-fap crew do the oh no that one that that one we already read out clearly We truly live in a society Truly we live in a society Indeed we do Fast forward to assassin's creed 29 where you meet an xcia assassin. Jesus christ. That's jason born also high rags Hi I mean Yeah, I could see the assassin's creed going 29 installments. Why not?  Everybody's doing live service. Sony's doing live service. All right.  I can't believe october revolution um I think that was something that everybody wanted and I remember it was that uh feudal japan. That was another one that everybody really wanted Um, and they just never did it. They never did those I think uh, there was also china as well like in ancient chinese history or Yeah Yeah, like the han dynasty and things like that the unification of china kind of as we know it things of nature We have all these city states that are warring and whatnot. It's just that um, there was a time There where the settings were starting to because they kept going forward Because but the problem is once you jump to the american revolution to continue going forward means that like your options start to diminish a lot to where it became The the french revolution and then it was victorian england. It's like we're getting real close to modern day now um And then yeah, we kind of almost gone one of the things that was really neat about it was it was more like classical to medieval and I mean, yeah, because it gets a bit harder to account for assassins and an era with guns Like it just starts to get a bit harder It just turns into like it man and splinter cell Which we have a lot of those games and I think already. Yeah Yeah, and So there is that element of you just you don't you're not what you used to be Like you're just a modern stealth game and as neat as splinter cell and hitman are That's not assassins creed. You know, I I like those games for sure. It's just yeah It is a matter of assassins creed has a bit of a niche. Unfortunately For as much as I liked exploring ancient, uh, like uh going through Greece in odyssey. It's like man I thought that like the first one was meant to be kind of the the crusades and that everything that was going to happen Would be either around that time or later and that doesn't preclude you from there's a lot of history in that time Yeah, absolutely, and there was more than one crusade There was more than one crusade it would imagine if they actually did that like wow The reality is with this this live service game.   That's pretty whatever it ends up being Because it will probably be each new season you get a new historical setting, but not particularly in depth Yeah, it's like, uh, I want you to do one thing really well Exactly that's one of the things that I absolutely adored about assassins creed origins Was just that the setting was so awesome And I would just go and look at everything there was because that the ancient egyptian greek mix It was a gorgeous looking game with so many excellent details, and I really really did Adored just the environment in the setting you just run around and look at stuff and run through cities and clamber around tombs and ruins and everything it was it was so fun to just explore in that game Yeah I used extra credits for a school project on gamification once. Oh how I cringe at the thord They've they have done good stuff. Yeah, they have legitimately done good insightful on things. They used to be respected. I think Yeah, they used to be absolutely and I think their history stuff is still fairly popular though I never got into it or cared about it. Yeah, the history stuff as well as their just advice on like game Like trying to make a game and everything That's where they seem to be more liked Hello massive smaller. I was wondering if you've played prey would love to see break it down one day in long man form I've had it recommended a whole bunch of times and I do intend to play at some point. Yeah, I I recommend it That's a cool. That's a cool game with a cool environment to explore fun stuff frango thoughts on irish independence Yeah, fringy. I've been meaning to ask you, but I feel now is that appropriate time with the secret channel How do you feel independent? I've been independent for less. I can't I didn't even know I'm surprised you even said that. Yeah, I was gonna say usually Well, the only thing I know about that is something that this is kind of a fun fact um, the australian constitution was that was our written in ninth well, it was probably written before because it was ratified like on the 1st of january 1901 and um You know, we we we were and still are like part of the commonwealth and you know, like part of Britain in a sense or we definitely were back then but now it's yeah in any case it has under it uh, the united kingdom of great britain and ireland because that was when it was written And it's never been updated because in order to update the constitution you need to go through a pretty extensive process Oh, yeah, our constitution refers to a country or like a union that doesn't really exist anymore. It's just kind of interesting That's fine. That's just good lore It's interesting lore that it would be I guess what I find funny is just through the sheer way that our legal system works And how difficult it is like in referendums and everything to change the constitution It just never got changed. It would be too much work for something that most people don't even know It's just funny It's one of those I guess it's one of just those harmless holdovers from an older time. That's like it's just character Well, it has no impact on the there's nothing about it that is legislatively relevant It's just there. There's like a relic from that time. Just kind of interesting um Do the top 10 ape slash monkeys of all time you hacks The top 10 man 10 Slash are we talking about like ape-like characters and movies and video games or are we talking about I was gonna ask they mean in terms of strength. Is that how it's done or Or just general really just cool ones I mean, I mean, maybe it's a boring choice, but like chimpanzees are awesome Yeah, I mean, I really like, um Chimps are cool. Gorillas are really neat. I like monkeys. They're fun. They're Monkeys are cool. Yeah, but I couldn't tell you any sub species. So like like of all the monkeys. I don't know really I mean, I mean there's uh We have of course my probably my personal favorite is a particular species of great ape Um, what would that one be? Uh humans Oh, yeah, of course. We're great apes I like orangutans a lot as well. They're they're uh, yeah I like tang. Do you ever have tang? Well, they're not orangutans. They're orangutans orangutans, do you do you have a tang though? Tang Yeah, you ever have a tang. It's like a it's like it was like an orange drink and their mascot was the orangutan I okay. I we don't have tang here Um, everyone says orangutans even me. So I'm wondering where that came from I think I think it's just orangutans is like a little bit trickier Because it's almost like a orangutan. You know, it's like an onomatopoeia I think so Like an like an engine you you pull the lever and it goes orangutan out of curiosity What is the and We'll do this just try and do both the same time ish. I guess What letter does The the good book in the multi-phase of madness. What letter does that word begin with? The the a and free V Yeah, it's v. It's not a It's with shanty But the thing is Oh, many people believe it's a shanty because of how fast people say book of the shanty Do you understand? I say Book of a shanty book of it. Yeah, it sounds basically identical. Yeah I saw as I was always saying book of a shanty as in v But some people are like more like keep saying a shanty and I was like no book of shanty book of The shanty and I just don't yeah, even if you're specifically trying to say one people think it's the other because they sound identical I've now out of curiosity read into the etymology of orangutan It's derived from the Malay words orang meaning person and hutan meaning forest So To refer to actually oh, this is funny. So apparently the word was originally used to refer to forest-dwelling humans um, but the word underwent a semantic Extension to include apes of the pongo genus, which is orangutan in the early stage in the history of malay Man, that's that's that's interesting that makes sense because there is a lot of even in the very early stages of Like phylogeny studies and the evolution discussion things of that nature and going back further But people pretty much people all over the world recognize that humans and a lot of the monkeys and apes We are not hugely dissimilar in a lot of very obvious ways I think um, I mean when you talk about how close chimpanzees are as an ancestor It's like obviously we're not the same, but like you can see you can see we are clearly very yeah We are we are alike in a lot of ways like I mean it's it's uh I'm not even sure why like people have such a hang up about like that I don't see the problem like chimpanzees are super impressive animals Like they're probably so okay or is that use of tools that organize social structures I think it's a mostly religious thing. Uh, that was the biggest as far as I know that was the biggest kind of Roadblock on a lot of the evolutionary discussions surrounding What do we classify humans as and what do we classify the apes as? Right because we are You know like yeah, because we're so clearly super similar Um, and and there's that aspect of you know, no We're made in god's image or humans are particularly special in this Sort of intrinsic deep spiritual way So it cheapens our existence by saying that we are also like ape creatures Because what I was going to say is humans are special in the sense that we've created this massively complex world But oh yeah, we're special. Definitely. I I don't really I don't don't bother me really like yeah Yeah, it's it's that attitude of and similarly there's also the the religious aspect of We can be similar in fact We're going to use that as an argument for how there is an intelligent designer behind everything Because so many things have so much similarity We're going to say that that is evidence for the fact that it'll come from a singular The fact that so many animals have two eyes and full limbs and everything and we do all that stuff I guess um Some now I'm just thinking about something else Isn't it interesting to think that for a good portion of like human history We inhabited the world with other intelligent like human ape species Yeah And then all of the other ones that you forget about I mean, I think uh Because homo erectus died out before we existed right I I think so. I'm not sure I'd have to check because we have homo erectus neanderthals homo habilis And Australopithecus afarensis, which is I think what Lucy was Yeah, he was cool, dude. Um really. Yeah, um Interesting. They they did the last known population of homo erectus Uh was a subspecies that lived in java Around 117 to 108,000 years ago at which point we definitely existed Um, because I think anatomically modern humans is at most 200,000 years ago, but definitely 100,000 years ago And then I think depending on yeah depending on where you want to draw the line Which a lot of the evolutionary lines are basically arbitrary. Um, yeah modern humans are like 100,000 at the 100,000 to 20 75 Yeah, so it depends where you draw the line.  I'm returning to monkey How far back can I go to find a group of proto humans that I could actually get along with So the book presented a similar thing, which was how far back could you go To just get a baby from that time raise them in the modern world and nobody would notice Uh, I think about 50,000 years ago is about how far back you could go because before that For whatever reason the brain just wasn't at the state that it could really do complex things like modern language um Like something happened around 50 60 thousand years ago that just we got a lot smarter really quickly um I think I think they uh believe that uh proto humans like earlier humans actually had bigger brains than we did and were like on the whole more capable of being um Of of higher intelligence because of the lifestyle that they lived demanded so much of them interesting stuff It is interesting stuff. Now you made me think about how I watched that thing both of you separately and the fun fact about humanities, um, let's say happiness and like individual, uh efficiency and and and like abilities is it I'm trying to find better ways, but the the shortcut would just be Once agriculture was introduced Yeah, and it did significant damage and uh I just remember the complete opposite reactions from both of you rags was like, I don't think so and for you was like, yeah I watched all the kerzgesagt videos. So I know the truth, which is that Agriculture really made our lives really tough for a long time. I think um Yeah, it was in the book sapiens because i'm pretty sure that's where kerzgesagt did some of their research from That um that the average person probably led a much harder more difficult and painful life For much of the agricultural period Then uh, the hunter-gatherers did the problem was that once you become there were a lot of utilities to hunter-gatherers to engage in limited agriculture And then that limited agriculture eventually turned into more permanent agriculture Problem is if you're born and raised in an agricultural society It's kind of hard to like imagine not being that or even being capable of going back to hunter-gatherer lifestyles so for a long time it was really tough because There's actually a level of food insecurity if your crop is bad. You're dead Um, you have to worry about people coming and stealing your food Uh living next to animals meant that a lot of diseases that were never exposed to humans A lot of a lot of illnesses now like the the cold and everything stemmed from living with animals It was it was tough for a long time, but the utility of agriculture now is like we created this world Where our people's lives are probably easier Interesting stuff. Yeah, it's like it lays the foundations for what we eventually had but at first it was it was a rocky ride Um Just a reminder that Pewdiepie has been making videos for 10 years yet. No one Yet has not once reviewed pie also high rags Hi, well, I don't I don't even know if he's a mathematician. He might not be like Like might not be his level of experience area of expertise I feel like I could review pie without being a mathematician I Suppose maybe it's a maybe it's like a matter of interest and it would require a lot of research into but maybe the history of it and Uh, you know, maybe contention like who found the pie and what kind of pie you end up with in different countries If any difference at all north is incredible similarities This is all part of the same system Funny to see link are there would be many pie charts many many of those lots of us When you see Linkara be bitter about Chris O'Neill Yeah, we this came up in a different catch up we did Linkara doesn't like to be made fun of You embraced it probably be much better for him Yeah, you really kind of should sometimes it's you know have enjoy the memes embrace them They give you a lot of character Instead of thinking you have to be the oc of your own anime and you're just amazing and perfect and incredible I'll say he literally made himself the oc of his own Well manga, I guess It was a cartoon little colic. I'm not sure exactly what job Uh Is basically wwe the movie Fair enough I don't know anything about wwe so I couldn't tell you if that was accurate or not I want to I want to give wwe more credit Well, I mean there's a lot of stuff that's impressive about wwe the fact that it is fake and like all of the coordination in the athletics of that And there's probably like a story that legitimately is like Characters knowing each other and being on like Works with each other. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.  All right. Look, I like monkey You're right. Godzilla is kind of an a-hole similar to superman It will back snide a superman presumably Um, but I I don't even like I said, I don't know the narrative of god zilla versus kong so Um I'm now picturing kong gently pulling the roof off an art museum sitting down beside it and quietly pondering the paintings as people run away Yeah, he'd be like, how come I don't get any access. This seems like discrimination He'd be right Uh more a little bit. We'd be getting a falcon and went to soldier's dream like we got for wander vision also high rags Hi Yes You did indeed. Yeah, I think that went down as one of our more popular breakdowns like people Either really hated that show really enjoyed us talking about how much we hated that show or both Well, I didn't enjoy hating it. I just hated that show Made me very angry It perturbed me A great deal. Why don't you and the other weebs gonna get gonna Going to do All right, it's a bit weirdly written. Uh anime efap we need to do so Though we can destroy the nilla efap The nilla efap is not just regularly nilla efap Look, you got arcane. All right, isn't that good enough?  Where was it drawn or who the original creator and owner where they're from just like Man all these different ways to figure it out, huh? I've read attack on titan end and I knew it was going to be bad, but I didn't realize it was going to be game of thrones bad Oh, do you guys remember when I happened like back on titan got a really bad ending and we were just like, oh, no Yeah, I got I got nothing few though because I just don't know anything about it Big creatures attacking a city or something. Well, I know Writing is the bread. All else is the butter Okay, one way to put it All else is the butter I suppose because yeah, you wouldn't want to have if someone's like would you like the sandwich and this it's the sandwich But no bread just be like stuff in your hands and you're like, okay Feels a bit weird, but if you just had bread, you know, that's that's food.   Probably not Aquaman's terrible Like black panther has qualities in a fit of worthwhile. I don't really know what I would praise and um Aquaman like Aquaman is an absolute mess clusterfuck a hilarious clusterfuck and I honestly one of the biggest reasons I want to see the sequel now is to see what amber who's role in it is Kind of the meta has really well into it. I don't know how much you know rags, but in her testimony While she was uh, yeah, no testimony for the case. She uh, she said that her role has been pared down that uh, she's even asked She was asked about all of her different things to prove whether or not damage has been done to her and at one point she says that uh She doesn't even know how much is going to make it to the final cut now So there's a strong awareness everyone knows what's going on like well I mean, I think I mean I feel like it's got a show in that based on Everything that's come out about that film. It seems like the focus is on Aquaman and his brother Not those two as a pairing, you know, so it almost feels like there was an awareness from the outset of like, hmm Which makes you wonder why you wouldn't end the contract, you know Or we had something similar to Christine in uh, Dr. Strange and they've You can you could probably knock out a lot of Christine stuff in Dr. Strange if you really wanted to Yeah, well to the point where you have or ask are you happy in the fucking wedding and then you don't have anything all the way up until Uh, like the end of him talking to Wong about being happy. You could cut all of her out Uh, I think it'd be tough right when they're walking together through the crazy. I guess if you Shouldn't be walking Well, it's just wouldn't she wouldn't I guess you could chop it around and kind of put him on his own through reshoots There's always reshoots. Oh, yeah, you would definitely end up with something really Choppy and awkward, uh, but I think you can do it. That's the movie Because you know, you know, like when he's attacked by the spirits You just don't have her say anything and he just opens his eyes and he's like I can control Which to be fair would make no sense I have to be the one holding the knife. Yeah Because yeah, yeah, the fact that she even questions the dark hold is like, yeah, this is the reason why I hold the knife bitch I'm willing to save the multiverse even if it means using the spooky book Oh, don't remind me of how much I really don't like what they did. I don't even like christine Man, is she worthless in that film Before but now, yeah Uh, where is the last super chat catch up from march? um At this stage, no idea. We're gonna help you Yeah, I don't I don't want to I can't help you with that. Uh, they all get put out. I haven't missed one. So It's it's on mula somewhere I do try to list them by date or at least in the title what they're covering but obviously, uh They they could all be mixed together at this point They are they are a huge selection of videos where the three of us just talk about stuff and reply to people To insight into the minds of the the mad mad mad men were behind all this Um, so falcon the winter soldier has anime slash atla tier dialogue Um, I don't remember was it probably a lot of this bad shit has really bad dialogue. Um When you say atla level an anime level, I assume you mean everyone was saying how they felt Which by the way, I will take that over assassination Oh, yeah At riding like really bad riding Well as far as I'm concerned it is bad, right? And that's what I'm saying. I'd prefer it to assassination Yeah, I care for being blunt about how they really are is way better than At least they're still acting in accordance with their beliefs to some extent. Yeah They're not destroying themselves in the process Everything dr. Strange says to christine before Like once they've defeated wander that that to me feels like anime writing where it's just like it's time for you to end your uh Or to complete your arc with her. So you got to say all the things. It's like what things you're gonna say It's like, uh, yeah, I've always loved you, but I'm scared you'll get hurt if I was to hang out with you That's it All right, there we go Like though it's uh, it's really easily done But I mean there's also bad dialogue throughout these things as well as on the nose dialogue uh Hey, how John McAfee billionaire type is treated like he has no legitimate point and Sarah's hour is just there in Godzilla vs. Kong Who's Sarah's hour not familiar with the movie so I couldn't tell you Either am I also eco terrorist Jonah way? Oh, uh, that's charles danse's character, right? I think I think you yeah, but I Come Part of the reason why wasn't as encouraged to go see it was the they didn't bring back charles dad So it's like why yeah, but I mean god's love is maybe he didn't feel like it.  He was barely in king of the monsters. It was ridiculous.  Oh people like this guy and his portrayal of this leading charismatic and at times arrogant, but Very assertive leader type guy. It's like people like him. All right, bring him in. Don't give him any lines though It's like, well, oh, but that's what people liked. It wasn't just yeah I'm standing there. Don't yes, like don't you want to hear that? I'm going No, I don't know what movies even are What is acting? I don't know. Let me just make the product Uh, miss the main video discussion But I can say as a dungeon master for dnd The rules on evil races have always been more suggestion as opposed to strict requirements extra credits clearly hasn't played in many games Well, it's you you get to decide what they are. You're the gm. It's your world.  That's the whole point If you say it's that way, then it's that way. That's kind of your job is to do that in a In a meaningful, sensible way. I'm not defending them, but it sounded like in their video. They didn't care What rules are in what place they're just saying outright?  I never knew. Yeah, I didn't know either. Cool.  I wonder if there it is Grug have a dream that one day small orc and small human are judged by Not violence of walk land, but by if they good or no grug have a dream today. Also grug almost forgot high rag Hi high rag. I like that grugs friendly Why do they make good or no? Hey rags mola and fringy What do you think of peter griffin's character development over the course of the show? Do you think he's a giga chad? I just not know you're enough. He's another character who liked deteriorated over time. Yeah Uh, I don't think he was particularly great as a character in the same way that I think homo is at his best No, no, no, um, but he definitely fell apart over time I don't have much to say on pretty griffin Well, yeah, because he was kind of just like a not as good a version of homo But then unlike homo who kind of just became like really stupid peter became a psychopath Yeah, he's like really cool. Um, he has absolutely. Well, yeah, whereas home homo isn't um I guess like broadly He like he just hates meg. He doesn't I don't know, you know, it's like lots of things aside Yeah, because I remember seeing videos make that point no show like clips from other stuff It's like, oh, yeah, and a lot of it is obviously for jokes, but like when you stack it up Wow It all it's all part of character at the end of the day About the beginning of the day Uh, well at the beginning that's what i'm saying at the beginning and the end There's a break in the day. Uh, there's a break you wake up You don't have to be anyone not even yourself.  That's right.   This is now a d&d discord group and tried to talk about how this and the neo nazi video are correct Well, the nazi video. Sorry. Uh, what should I do also high rag? Oh man, they might be too far gone. Well, no I mean it depends on what they agree with what what what and why do they think those are accurate perspectives and Why do they have so little?  That's all I got Like tell them that you are an adult and you can differentiate between fiction and reality It's actually not that difficult Regardless of what extra credits might say um And hopefully your games are still good Play eternal darkness. It's on dolphin. Uh, it's not really suitable for to protect catch up film darkness Is that the that's the one with the mobster who gets the spooky powers? Uh, I think that's just darkness or something the different game something darkness eternal darkness is like a horror game. That's uh Like top down ish Go around in like buildings and solve puzzles and stuff Okay, all right Uh Fringy, have you ever considered that your races are treating everyone equally? Um, I'd say that I haven't considered that because I don't know I just because moller and I we were gonna we were gonna mention it One of these days we've been talking people the same way regardless of their immutable characteristics No, there he is doubling down. I told you you'd do this I can cut this part out everybody. Yeah, it's got this part out You'll thank us later fringy. It's best that people don't know We'll fix you we can we we can fix him I can fix him Also, is there an okay way to depict an eskimo is it always racist? I don't know. I don't know what the rules are on that one. I I don't know what the rules are today. Um Could be yes. Could be no I'm not sure honestly Nubia exists me comics had their chance Nubia, what is that nubia? Who is nubia? Or where is isn't that a place or a person in the comics? I don't know It said like you have like you have nubians right from like the nubia region or is that a Oh, well there's a follow-up saying for serious check out j long bone reading of nubia Uh J long bone nubia. Let me click on that. Maybe it'll j long bone nubia Oh, I remember That I remember the imagery But I don't know Like anything about the character. Oh, is that like the I'm I'm a strong super Like independent women who's very very very black and I'm wonder woman, but better Honestly, I don't know. I'm a loop on them. I think that's what it was It was something like that. It was like some wonder what like the the wonder woman But the black one um If I may self shill I've written a short story titled the heads That you can read on wattpad funnily enough I named the main character jeb before listening to efap now all I can see is people's president trying to reanimate human heads Oh, well, he was never a president, but um Yeah, well, they said the people's president, which is true. Oh the people's president.  Yeah sweet sweet Have you never heard of jeb though before Jeb just fair enough that you chose to name your character jeb. That's fine. I'm not judging In fact, it's a great choice powerful name uh You guys like falcon the wind to soldier? No Not really bad If you want more elaboration there is a stream Don't you worry about it? um I think all of extra credit's history series have a video at the end dedicated to everything that got wrong or left out Now that's just good history um Sounds like that stuff is way better than their um stuff people don't like that. They do Yeah Seems that way um Fringy, can you name three historical revolutions you consider marley justified? Thanks They're not doing that Uh Cold racists say you got a pass from woodstock 99 Woodstock 99 Yeah, I don't know what that is Tell me woodstocks. I know are the music festival and snoopy's friend. Yeah Uh, what are your gun choices in re4? I sell the handgun sell the punisher and use the red nine and use shotgun skip riot gun for striker use tmp Skip rifle for semi-auto rifle and skip all the magnums Generally what I will do is if I'm playing like I guess super serial and I'm not trying to just challenge myself I will um I think I will keep the handgun Until we get to the red nine I will get the punisher and I will get all the medallions so that it comes with the free power upgrade and I'll sell it Uh, because it sells for more once you get it anyway um I will Keep the shotgun. I only upgrade if I upgrade shotguns. It's really just power Uh, I don't upgrade capacity or reload or anything like that because you just don't need it Power is really the most important. I'll disagree on capacity. That's one of the best ones upgrade for uh, like magnums or High capacity things in general because it's just a free reload Um, I never found I've never found I generally skip capacity upgrades unless it's for the tmp or red nine or something that I'll have for a while Because capacity is you can play around that We get the not too difficult benefit then as well of it has more space to put your ammo into the gun As opposed to your briefcase Yeah, you can hold some more, but generally I Don't have the issue where I've run out of space and really really need a couple extra shots Uh, the only time that really super applies is going to be with the tmp Because tmp capacity gets so big But you want to really time your tmp capacity upgrades for when your tmp is empty So you get all the free bullets that come with the capacity upgrades Uh, but generally the same logic I use for basically all the weapons I've I've never I I think ammo is so plentiful in that game once you get good that you just never need it It's just not a necessary you be close to being a necessary thing I I always skip it for the most part capacity is one of the last things that I I don't reload speed is probably the last thing that I upgrade. Let's be fair if you really go to the game There's a lot of things you don't need to do Uh, yeah, uh, sure, uh, maybe that's why I don't do it. Well, I just never really It of course it's weapon dependent a But I I generally don't go with like I say you've You know like however grenades and power weapons dare I call them for bosses, but someone could be like you don't need to do that. You're really good at it And I'd be like, yeah, I know but I like depends on the box You definitely want to have like you want to have a four incendiaries for Mendes you don't have some points you don't have to You don't have to but it's generally going to be worth it But I I get I've never found needing the the the extra Space that capacity upgrades give you to just be worth the money that you could be saving up for power Um, let's never found the exchange to really be worth it for me Capacity is such a low price that I've never seen it eating into my power budget And I've just never never really gone for it So yeah, but I will generally go with um I keep the pistol until I get to red nine buy red nine Cell Punisher with the extra upgrade. I will keep the I'll get the different shotguns as I go, but I'll only upgrade power pretty much Um, I generally do not get the rifle sometimes I do But generally I don't get the rifle I will almost always have the tmp. The tmp is insanely good. It's probably my favorite weapon in the whole game and Other than that. Yeah when I when I get the striker I sell the riot gun and get the striker though I will say the Capacity upgrades are much more useful in resident evil five Which is an interesting idea for a video that I've had Which is that the change in the inventory system between four and five Means that you have far more reason to upgrade your like things like capacity Which will influence what kind of a weapon that you will even take The starter pistol for instance in resident evil five. I forget the names of them It can hold eventually 100 rounds in it Even though it doesn't have the power Or some other things that the other handguns do the fact that it can hold 100 Means that the nine inventory spaces that you have in resident evil five Uh, you don't even have to spend one of them on having pistol ammunition at all because 100 can go into the gun itself So there's there's actually some interesting balance advantages that come with having that nine slot inventory even though Don't like it in general. I've always liked the Attache attache attache case the resident evil four Everyone prefers the resident evil four case and they still haven't gone back to it They keep almost baiting that they'll get back to it even resident evil village game Little closer than ever sort of close. Yeah, it's still not there. I mean Aesthetically it certainly looked worse. It just looks too Boring and gamey whereas in resident evil four things were different colors and you actually they they looked like the things just in A box like it's not just about matching how it looks or even necessarily how it works The whole game has got a morph to be able to Accommodate that system again. It's a lot more complicated than just being like look. It's the briefcase.  Exactly.   Like this isn't like anything. We're actually doing it. We're legitimately like Vampirism and likeanthropy. It's real.    Yeah, we uh, I feel like we did a pretty good breakdown of it Honestly, we did a very good breakdown on it Uh, I'll be around for the next one. Hopefully it's better Did we conclude it was better than seven? I can't remember anymore. I think so. I think it was a little bit better than seven I'd rather play it than seven Certainly. Yeah, I think it's more consistent throughout than seven was because seven I feel like you get to that like four hour mark and then it's just like Yeah, it's like really starts the yeah, it drops off ugly section Funhouse we did booby trap section That's like the is where stuff's getting real thin and then you go to the The mines of the ship and they're both incredibly thin just an area you run through and things attack you Oh god, I that was a miserable playthrough.   What a joke Because yeah, that game just wasn't finished I got so many great reviews though. It really did.  I can't remember. No Was that a thing for Resident Evil 7 retains their roots? Uh, yes, it definitely was.  No, sorry. I was trying to remember if it was Eight or seven in money or videos or something It's just it shows you it's always been this way There's just this tagline that everyone says about a game because that's what they know to say The same thing happened with ukulele, but like the reverse where it was like everyone knows to say the camera doesn't work The the pacing is all off and it's just like none of these arguments are actually substantiated Or even compared with the games that they'll praise in its place because Man, original thought hard to find on youtube Even if it's cringe Like it's fine. It's better than what you just go What's everyone saying about this game cycles of violence? Okay. Yeah, uh, this game talks about the cycles of violence. It's very deep Oh, they didn't like the last of us. Uh, yeah, it's a bad game. Boo Like those people are probably the worst kinds of people, right? You don't hear from them that much though. Yeah, they don't have a yeah At least the people where I like it's weird as we played village and we were just all like on the same page pretty much Yeah, it's just this isn't good. This is like actually bad like watching anybody's Dreams of it be it freeing myself metal and I think jay long gone streamed a bit of it I can't remember if as did I know drinker did It's just you know, it only lasts so long like the novelty of all of it Especially for I feel like more mechanically focused Dare I say gamers Who are like trying to figure out how best to min-max everything and then eventually break the game by accident and just like oh Yeah, like I'm gonna actually treat this like a video game Not like some roller coaster ride where I'm just ready for the next spooky thing. Yeah Really like this is a video game first and foremost I will treat it as such and it fails very much in that regard Despite how much it tries to not be a video game in many ways So by extra credit thinking the goblins from goblin slayer on evil since there is it's not their fault They don't have emails of their species. They have to kidnap and uh unwilling women to reproduce Wait, what? I don't know enough about goblin slayer I have I don't know anything about goblin slayer Hmm Yes, hi rags Hi as the funniest member of efap. I was wondering who are your favorite comedians most curious to hear your thoughts on george carlin Uh, I don't know that much about george carlin. Uh, I I really like norm mcdonald And steven wright I like Ah gosh, um I enjoy Trying to think of his name Yeah, bill burr. It's pretty funny. I like bill burr Yeah, he's funny. Yes um I really like sean lock and um Who is the guy you'd mentioned? Yes uh You did the voice of him and I was like, oh, that's a good voice david mitchell. Yeah. Yeah, I like him uh Stephen car. I like him. I think he's funny um John richardson can be pretty funny I like A lot of these are from just like british panel shows. We're just funny people joe wilkinson um Even fry Stephen fry. Yeah. Yeah, I found him pretty funny um Yes, Dave chappelle is funny. So yeah, there you go.  He got from converting kkk guys them hood wearers as evils Uh extra credits. Oh, yeah, because they said at one point that um Like what was it something like you could have the uniform you wear is just like who you are And that's just like it's over for you basically I think he said like cult worshipers and then he also had like people wearing kkk hoods He was like, you know, they're evil and it's like Wait I wonder how they would react to the original iron man stanley wanted to make a character that was Uh, that the public would hate by the end But by the end sympathize with tony was a rich arms dealer in the 60s during the counterculture movement Um, well, I guess that's the idea right a lot of the time with premises but Trying to create endearing stories. It's like challenging Stanley seemed very concerned with um character from the lips interviews and stuff. I've seen with him and it doesn't surprise me at all that Uh, tony stark can transcend Sort of a the a g was written in because there's always gonna be Someone selling stuff to people to make bad things happen, but then they can also just be a human and so How do you make them a An audience almost favor it and it's like, yeah tony stark is an exploration of that and It just further pushes the conversation forward of do your best to not demonize people no matter what in terms of I should say dehumanize people Yeah, yeah Um extra credit should watch american history acts That's not I doubt they thought they did anything wrong in that video They just sort of roll with the punches because they've done it a couple times where they've had videos where people just like the fuck was this And I just keep going. Yeah, they've I know some of the writers since if I've lashed out on twitter, uh, All right, okay, right. I didn't know it's always always a great look when you make it was it was with the It was the nazi thing in particular that really blew up Uh, when they did not have like nazis as like playable characters and like a multiplayer Yeah, that was like in call of duty world at war when you can play When you're playing one of the factions is like russia versus germany that that's bad Yeah, they want games to inform people that you're playing as a nazi and a nazi is a bad person in history It's just like jesus christ.  I was thinking by the way, I just had this random before the other day I guess I never thought about it before But it was always there. I was just like is incredibles like heavily inspired by fantastic for Uh, it's well, I mean you can see how right in terms of a lot of the choices that were made Like this four of them It's a fantastic Violet's got the same powers as sous storm. Yeah There's four of them and also I guess leaning hardcore into the 60s aesthetic Yeah, um, but I guess yeah, you want to have the strong one and I mean I guess you could say that mr. Incredible is kind of like um thing kind of Kind of like the thing and dash is the one who is not like anybody else really He and except in attitude is kind of similar to to johnny Yeah, but they're different enough and it's a great film. Oh, absolutely. It's just fantastic films that have existed I was about to say the best fantastic four film if one could put it into a genre It's just funny to me to think about because I think that's a great example of being like You know if someone said like I hate incredible This is just a ripoff fantastic four or something in the same way people say that about like joker to taxi drivers We're like they're clearly different And I like that that happens. It's good inspiration It definitely seems like that when I know like when it When joker came out and we got the constant comparisons from everyone I often wonder if that was just A thing that got spread by a few people and then it just took off like wildfire wildfire And then everybody just kept repeating it over and over You wonder how many people really remembered these movies and saw both of these movies and legitimately think that they're Super similar Or if they know that's the safe thing to say Because for us the the clearest closest connection was king of comedy. Yeah Well, so a lot of people just still do bring up king of comedy. Um And they like combo it up because there's elements But then to me it's just like you've gotten so broad that like yeah Not fair anymore to say that it's copy any one thing I think they're just they're very very distinctly different. Where's the appreciation for Like dialogue. It's not copied dialogue. It's all new. So like dialogue's not just The easiest thing to write, you know, like the fact that he's done that And then like how the scenes connect what the history of this particular character is and how it differs from So many other things like I don't know it always felt weird to me as a comparison, but Yeah, you're right and it reminds me of a certain youtuber saying Watch blade runner wasn't a fan. Watched it again. Still wasn't a fan. Just kept watching it until I get it now Because I know I'm not allowed to not like this one. Exactly. It's uh Whatever you ever done that for a movie before it's because you knew you couldn't like uh, it couldn't not like blade runner Yeah Which is funny because I don't have that problem. Uh, and a lot of people don't because you can just end up going I didn't like it It's okay. Yeah Value of the craft even acknowledging that it wasn't for you instead of pretending you like it when you don't We are now about to enter the stage of destabilization Okay destabilization Uh, Yuri Bezmanov warned us about demoralization All right, I'm familiar. I'm so I'm sort of familiar with who he was He was like a marketing material for black ops cold war That it was yeah Bezmanov was like uh, like a communist propaganda political expert person who would explain how to subvert cultures and get them to do things I'm not that familiar with him. I just sort of know of him and I hear his name pop up here and there But people treat his clips as like Scarily accurate with lots of how different things go. I think that's how yeah That's sort of the context where he pops up in is like see this is what's happening And this is what Yuri Bezmanov said you should try to do if you want to subvert culture and get people Who think certain ways I guess that's kind of funny though considering that that was in the context of the cold war Which has been over for a long time Well, I'm assuming that's the point is that it's like look it's all happening again or you know You know how it goes with like you can take a lot of statements from a lot of different people and Move them around to be like ah Uh Give man 2000 years. He put someone on the moon give woman 2000 years. She's stuck on an island using sticks This logic brought to you by the dceu Hey, they wanted to be that way. Okay.  Yeah, what's going on? People kind of forgot about game of thrones true And uh new show is going to be out eventually. I'm not even sure what the day on that is Um, we never shown a good Batarian in any game batarian Um, and the guy there are yeah the batarians in um and in mass mass effect And the gath only have some differences between the factions in them kill the organics and don't I mean the gath are a little like The problem is it's hard to talk because the batarians aren't like they're not a malevolent race like necessarily I think that they were just more aggressive than a lot of other Like races in the mass effect series that they're just more Yeah, more standoffish Weather culture or whatever and the geth are robots Um, and I mean as we learn the geth aren't like a malevolent There's actually there's a lot that's um that they've sort of fallen victim to underneath the quarians I mean in mass effect three if the choice is between the geth and the quarians It's like damn the geth really got screwed over here You know legions a good boy The evil of the evil team needs to be diverse. So diversity is evil No, I just want just want representation in every environment all over the place It's gets strange sometimes when it's like please make the evil people diverse But uh, I guess the same logic of you want to be able to Be yourself in all places or something It is weird to play battlefield 5 and see black women running around. It is it is very odd Well, presumably it's a good and bad people right or good team and bad team. It's not necessarily Definitely definitely on the allied side. I think on the the germans. It's the same way.  I saw someone quote tweeter and they said this is a world war two game That was just like Oh Well, it is just one of those things is like in a modern military setting I think I think it's a lot easier to uh to it's easier in a modern setting. Yeah Well, yeah, just it doesn't for as much as it is a video game Like it's kind of hard to tell what kind of things will and will not pull people out of the experience and um It's something like world war two. It's I think it's pretty very easy to tell You know, everybody knows what world war two is with what I think even with battlefield one It was like because a lot of people weren't aware of like colonial armies and um and how all of those the french Yeah, the french have The weird one with battlefield one was that the german empire Their recon soldier was a black guy Germany did have um african colonies. They lost a lot of them after world war one That was part of the well, they didn't during world war one They had just like very to no connection with them because of blockades and stuff like that Yeah, no, there were algerians on the french army, which makes more sense um But yeah, the the german empire getting the black sniper was really bizarre to see The british had the colonial forces, right because they would have had um indians. Yeah, well Yeah, the medic has a the medic wears a turban. He's sort of like a like an indian kind of I guess what i'm saying is like There's always ways because the the one that everybody talks about because it's so easy russian woman sniper Like it's a really not a hard sell at all. Yeah, if you're playing Yeah, the russian faction and i think it's only one of the russian factions because there's two the reds and whites Um, there are russian long, you mean? Yeah, and so in battle for the one there are russian maps Where it's like two different russian forces. I think oh, I see But uh to from my memory. I think that's how it is, uh, so Uh But yeah this Battle for the one did it way better than five Five is just like you could be anything anywhere. I was like no just stop The this very it's it is definitely an uncanny peak that you have to get over in this game When you play five all the screaming women everywhere very strange the very multi-ethnic Uh, you know which is strange because if you play as the the japanese faction In battlefield five you can be a woman, but you are limited you have to be asian if you're the japanese you have to be asian So the where their limits start and stop is just straight and I think one of the reasons is because the In part of the base game. I think it was only Uh, the brits and the the germans and the original and so the pacific war was added later And so these later additions maybe they started to tone down on How much you could customize particularly the the imperial japanese army? uh, because you're only You can only play as Japanese Hyper customization regardless of which aspect you talk about whether that's character creation or like outfits and stuff just feels really hard In a world war one and world war two game.  It's like this feels really odd In in a game that is based on like a real historical event Which there are still people who are still there are people who are still alive who are part of that I don't know. There's a level of like I don't know.  There's just something about it.  It's like these crazy halloween costumes people want to look as bombastic as they can um Which is dope. It's it's weird considering how Many kinds of different things are see let me because I've got a poll that I did double check You cannot play as a you you cannot play as a black woman or a black character as the germans. It's only whites um So let me show you like there's there's a lot This is both it's a positive and a negative of battlefield 5 and I think it's ultimately skews towards the negative But classes and other battlefield games would have very distinctive looks to them I think battlefield one is like the tentacle of Class and faction design and battlefield because every army looked unique and all of their classes looked unique And you could tell who people were Based off of what they looked like and in battlefield 5 you have an outfit system where your character has pants torso or Like a like upper body lower body and a head and you can customize them to look Different ways, but these outfits are only restricted to the faction not to the class So you could have if you wanted you could have the same character as all of your classes for like the german army and So you could have this you could have a Character look like this Right, which is all real stuff from world where like the winter mask and all that sort of these outfits But you could have that be every single class's appearance So you can't tell a class by looking at them You have to rely on like the icon that pops up over their head, which is Not preferable to me just using in-game knowledge and Recognizing soldiers based on their gear So it's like yeah, sure there's a lot of really interesting and cool outfits in this game that look like they're totally believable as soldier outfits But They can be applied in so many different ways That it removes from a class dynamic Um, but I don't know we've talked about this for a long time. Yeah Remember when games showed you this story and didn't tell you their story and remember when they could be They're only told you their story in a game and not on social media i.e in the story I'm just telling the stories in social media And it's would be like when a writer goes on and starts explaining the story because like they need to defend it Or retweet someone defending their film because they had a really strange I can't believe that happened it's insane Yeah, like oh, they get it. It's like cut. What are you doing? You'd never have to do that if there wasn't a problem There's a problem. Exactly. Well, I that's still one of those nobody on set Nobody during the editing like nobody or either they didn't you ignored them or They were too scared to like I don't know Unbelievable thing for film history, honestly It is insane. I can't believe still that they did that All things are slipped by You would not expect it to be great, but there we are I Top ended up loving the film. That's just funny I can't believe he used a xenomorph For an example that evil by nature is not as good as evil by choice The lack of any awareness is astounding That is strange considering the popularity of the xenomorph as a bad guy Um plus they're like they're more animals and not like a sentient race. They're they're an alien But they're not yeah, they're not an intelligent Well, that's the problem with the whole evil part. It's like the xenomorphs don't consider themselves evil No, they're just hunting to eat and then Breed like they're they're fulfilling their purpose. It's just that it doesn't align particularly well with our desire to continue living Yeah, because when you zoom out enough all of this is just bullshit like the all the categories we've given to everything Right, we're all just things stardust moving around in different positions like the idea that we go Hey, what you're doing there is evil the tiger looks up like, huh? I was like, yeah, of course. So The fact that they would categorize the xenomorph is like see this is this is how it can go wrong. They're just like, what? I'm just getting confused. We don't we don't do the moral thing.  They want to erase humans for whatever reason They might have a reason. I don't know if they do Yeah, as we've said, they seem to just be operating biologically like the the eggs, for example I don't think they're um, they're like, uh, I can't wait to kill me a human also like Automatic doing doing what I do The extra credits is advocating for haradrim genocide because they chose to fight with sarron for money.   I'm like putting morals on a game that's just like level one fight two slimes. It's just like, what if I don't want to fight them?    I guess um It's the second d&d episode on community where he's like Do we have to cross the bridge? Can I go behind it? Or does your will stop?  Thank you for covering it and shredding those terrible points into atoms But no problem. I don't think we were far from the only ones that covered it though. It was like a Very few people were okay with that video. It's like a tradition Extra credits every once in a while they release a video that's so bad everyone covers it. Everybody hates it on the internet Unfortunately people like extra credits never had parents to give them a proper child morality So they were never able to grow a proper adult morality and ethos calm down It's a bit of a reach like yeah Remember I mean there might just yeah, I mean there might just be bad people. Who knows Well, I I think it's fine. They hold this position and they can hopefully be argued out of it I hope so. I fucking hope so Thank you both Well, thank you for both getting through my shift and helping you with writing Makes me sad when people criticize you for reviewing scripts when the script writers should have done that themselves before making the movie What was the The stat was like 90 percent of tlj's first draft is in the final I think they said that was a point of pride And yet it just explained everything. Yeah Uh, but good to hear good to hear um Okay, I'll read this all out as it's supposed to be but then I'll tell you something funny about it So psychopathy is a personality trait that is in fact genetic evidence shows neanderthals were Where we're basically all psychopaths um They spelled psychopaths with s a i c o Wait, they spelled it how So they spelled psycho s a i c o So Okay, that's very amused by that. Um as for psychopathy is genetic. I have no idea as for neanderthals being psychopathic Got nothing on that either. I have no clue about any of that Uh, I remember a fanfic where I read the protag did something to convince someone not to be a nazi and could not bring herself to care or see it as a good deed because in her eyes the man was tainted Okay, I guess it's a redemption and stuff right or depending on what the guy did um Some people have their limits. I suppose Now imagine how hard extra credits freak out over von stroheim I don't know who von stroheim is niza. Do I sounds like a dish? Hmm In regards to good in evil modern philosophy has shifted towards the idea of moral relativism some Many people today have and do defend things like cannibalism or oppressive practices in foreign nations My dude, I think you'll find that there's been people defending that shit for all of time somewhere Because uh, we got crazies all over earth unfortunately But um cannibalism like I don't think you're gonna find many people in the west defending capitalism Sorry cannibalism cannibalism Um I thought aragon did a good job of making the urgals An enemy faction while also making them understandable and eventually turning them into allies I legit can't even remember any of that As I said doesn't bring any bells for me. I'm afraid. I don't know Uh, people don't need to appease the universal standpoint to have moral force behind their views if stuff is evil.  I didn't think there was a universal standpoint. I thought that's Part of the why this is such a complex conversation that's been going on for so long Don't need to appease the universal standpoint If I seriously I can't even think of what that might refer to I yeah, I I cannot decipher this question And that is the last of the selection Wow the extra credits um Thank you so much for sending in your kind and intriguing messages Absolutely. Thank you support in the show through the uh the donations and we appreciate it quite a bit All I all I can really say now is uh, thank you so much for listening for watching and uh We'll we'll the three of us likely we'll see you in the next thing whatever it may be Goodbye and good night everyone Goodbye everybody. Bye. Bye


It's kind of like when we were in high school, you know, we used to back in those days, I remember years ago we had the teachers that had overhead projectors, overhead projectors, and when they first get in and they flip them on, it's just the light is just perfectly reflected onto the wall, beautifully, perfectly reflected. Then you start putting the overlays on the shadows. That's, those are filters. Whatever those are, those get projected onto the wall.  Talk about early stages of Hollywood except you're chained in. It's almost like Hollywood, but you can't leave the theater. You have to, you're chained onto the seat.  You're just chained in on the seat, you can't go anywhere. They actually took those shadows on the wall, on the cave wall to be reality. Very famous Plato's cave analogy, and then when one of the prisoners finally got free and went out and realized that it was just a fire burning and there was a bunch of characters walking by outside the cave and the shadows were just being reflected on the wall. He went, I will go back and tell my friends and they killed him.  So, so this is like a convincing job. The spirit has to work with the mind to loosen the trust from the investment in all kinds of things. Well, what kind of things be invested in this world? Money, money seems to be a symbol that's so interchangeable for so many other symbols that it has taken on an exaggerated sense of worth and when you read A Course in Miracles, Jesus calls him, you know, he says, you really believe you would starve in less than 76. He says, you really believe you would starve without stacks of green paper strips and piles of metal discs. He sounds kind of detached, almost like he's poking fun. Green paper strips and metal discs. Now we can update the course and put plastic cards. We're out here in California. Plastic cards, you got to put them, you really believe you would starve without stacks of green paper strips, piles of metal discs and a nice variety of plastic cards.  That's what he says. He says it, he's actually poking fun at the constructs that have been given so much faith, so much trust that we've put trust in the laws of economics, we put trust in the laws of medicine, we put trust in the laws of nutrition, we put trust in the laws of exercise, we put trust in, you could just go on and on and on and on. Even what goes in this world is alternative modes and methods of healing, you know, moving energy and so on and so forth. That energy that's getting moved around is not the energy of all that is. That stuff doesn't move. I mean, there's nowhere to move. It's just all that is. If everything is energy, then where is it to go? How are you going to move it? So even the alternative healing methodologies are all part of the dream too. So basically to come to the last filter is to simply allow the mind to be convinced that this is a dream. I mean, really, really, what would be so frightening about a dream if you knew that you were dreaming it? People have reported for the last couple decades where they've had lucid dreams and it's cool. It's a cool experience to be lucid dreaming. Nobody says, oh, it was terrible. I was lucid dreaming. I was all mighty and all powerful. I just couldn't stand it. Nobody says that. They say, wow, it was cool. I knew that I was dreaming and I was just watching it and it didn't scare me at all. What would a monster, how can a monster be scary if you knew you were dreaming it? Only if it was real and it's like and that's where awareness of dreaming comes in as being important.  Why are they glad it was just a dream? Because they realize that it had no power to really hurt them. That's why though. So Jesus actually at one point he says, awareness of dreaming is the function of God's teachers. Isn't that a beautiful way to say it? Can you address this section in the course, the hero of the dream? Yes. Yeah, the hero of the dream is the body and all of its serial adventures, you know, it's like the focal point in that dream. It's the hero. It's the one that that seems to be the star. The body's like the star of the show. And without without that star, it wouldn't be much of a dream at all. In fact, some of you might remember there was a movie that came out in 1999 called The Truman Show. And Truman starts to get these little signs and symbols that it's all made up. Like it's all a set. None of it's real. And on all of a sudden as he gets closer and closer to finding the escape door of leaving and walking out from the set, then Christ off. That's another way for calling an ego. Christ off. You're off Christ. It's ego. Christ off tries to in the last second try to convince him you're the star.  You're live to the whole world. You know, it tries to build him up as the hero. You're the star of the show. This whole show is for you. This show wouldn't be anything without you, but it's speaking to the body. You know, as if it's the body. It's the hero.  You know, you never really knew what my true experience of who I am is. It has nothing to do with this.  You are safe in this world. You have nothing to fear and then he comes right around and says you're afraid. You know, it's the ego speaking out of its two sides of the mouth. So basically the hero of the dream is the body and as long as the mind stays identified with the hero of the dream it will be afraid because there is no safety on a battleground and there is no safety and peace and love and harmony in a distractive device that was designed to keep the mind not knowing who it really is, a spirit. There's no safety on in the script. Even when people give me the stuff sometimes out here, but we're told to be in the world but not of it. Oh, sneaky, slippery, slippery, slippery. That's really sneaky. It's like, okay, does that give me, now I have justification to kind of do a balancing act between spirit and the world. So I can kind of, you know, I can kind of be sunk into the world a little bit, in the world, but not of it. That's a slippery slope. Yeah, you get back to more the teachings of Jesus, you know, that which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of the spirit is spirit. Never the twain shall come together, you know, illusions and truth, when you bring them together only one remains, that's spirit. So this is a journey is starting to really see the nothingness of form, like the Buddhists talked about, the emptiness of form, but being guided with the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit will use the forms to release them. The Holy Spirit uses time to teach you that there is no such thing as time, to take you back to that timeless moment, that is the gateway to eternity. Uses symbols to teach you that they're all symbols and that they are equally meaningless. That's exactly the method of operation of the Holy Spirit.