what is going on guys welcome to a new video so you've seen the title then today we're going to be discussing whether you should start dropshipping in 2019 so is it worth it so it's a video I've wanted to do for quite a long time I get a lot of questions from you guys and I wanted to put a lot of thought into it before I made this video just because I don't want to give you a broad kind of irrelevant answer that doesn't really help you guys out that much I wanted to give you like a more logical unbiased and better answer just so you guys can make the best decision really because ultimately then I don't want to give you guys false hope or lead you down the wrong road and in three or six months time and maybe hundreds of pounds if not thousands of pounds of investment and realize it's something that you don't want to do so what I've done then is a bullet point it kind of like the main points or fundamentals of what goes into a drop shipping business I've got some notes from my phone and I'm just going to work through them one by one and just kind of tell you guys then how they will be affected in 2019 and whether that's a good or bad thing then if you want to start a drop shipping business now before we get into the points I just want to make just want to say a quick note on skills so regardless of whether you succeed or not in drop shipping as long as you haven't spent thousands of thousands of thousands of pounds then I don't think you're going to regret the process because the skills involved in running the business that you'll have to develop and gain are going to are going to be valuable to you and your and your development and your life for a very long time so when it comes to running a drop shipping business then you need to know how to source products and negotiate with suppliers you're going to learn the ins and outs of building an e-commerce store and how to maximize conversion rates and essentially make the most money so when it comes to things like upsells and cross sales what they are what good ones are what bad ones are and then ultimately probably the most important skill that you'll learn is marketing so social media marketing it's absolutely huge and it's only going to get bigger if it hasn't already then I'm pretty sure at some point it will become the biggest marketing space in the world and if you get good at marketing and you can and you can turn a profit on pretty much any product then you you'll be able to walk into pretty much any business in the world and just get a job straight away if you can show somebody that if they put 10 pound in and you get them 20 pound out then they're going to pay you whatever you want as long as you're making them more money than you're costing them so in terms of the skills involved in building a drop shipping business they're very valuable and they're not just applicable to e-commerce and drop shipping they will apply to a lot of different walks of life essentially so anyway that being said then let's get straight to the points and point number one then is products and suppliers so as time goes on then more and more products are going to come onto the market and so are suppliers it's never been easier than to start an import business regardless of whether you're drop shipping or not if you're just buying products in bulk it's crazy easy now to do because of technologies and advancements in things like communication and shipping times if you think back to just 10 20 years ago before Alibaba existed then I wouldn't have a clue how to go about sourcing a product from China it was just this far-fetched idea that I just never would have considered I mean I would have been six years old at the time but had I been old enough then I just wouldn't have had a clue how to do it whereas now anybody with an internet connection and a computer can literally start a business a global business sourcing products from pretty much any country in the world and then sell them in any country in the world so as time goes on then there's going to be more products available to us which is always a good thing because there's more more ways of making money essentially and there's going to be more suppliers as well because as places like China and Vietnam and the Philippines as they start to realize the potential of being online and people like us essentially buying products on Alibaba or Aliexpress they're going to they're going to want to be part of that and so there's going to be more suppliers coming on to those kind of platforms and ultimately that's going to drive up competition which is always a great thing for people like us because it forces suppliers then to do two things number one is increase their quality because they want to have the best product better than everyone else that way people will source it from them and it's going to improve pricing as well obviously everybody's going to be competing on price so effectively then you're you're going to be able to find better quality products for a cheaper price and this is actually a really really important reason because if you walk down one of the main roads in in any kind of major city that's full of restaurants and bars then only the good ones survive and that's because they're providing a good service a good product at a good price the competition is so high unless you're good at what you do then you just won't survive so in terms of sourcing products and quality products from decent suppliers as well then it only becomes a good thing so a quick little story then for you guys because I know a lot of you like to hear stories about my past and things I've done so when I went to China last year then I met these two English blogs who had been importing goods by the container load and for about two decades and we're doing it a long long time and they told me this story then about this guy who was in the kitchen niche he was selling like high quality kitchen tops they were either marble or slate I can't remember anyway he was sourcing these kitchen tops by the kilo and he was paying by the kilo and he was paying about twenty dollars per kilo for these kitchen tops so he went to the canton fair which is the world's biggest import the world's biggest import export expo and he found this supplier then that was it looked legit like they had all their big banners of their company names and they had product samples their people in suits catalogs everything and they were showing him samples of pretty much the same product he was sourcing but they were quoting half the price so he thought he was going to the winner went back home to the UK struck a conversation online with them speaking to them over email and decided to place an order for a 40 foot container just straight away just commit it to a massive order of that load and he thought he was in the money because obviously he was paying half the price and when a container comes into the UK then there's a checking sheet which is basically where import and customs check it against what the supplier is saying so basically make sure that matches up so there's no funny business going on and because he was important by by the kilo then that was kind of like the main kind of like the main figure that had to match up so anyway the weights matched up the container finally arrived he went down to the port to accept it and collect it and he opened it up and all he found was rubble like just mixed and matched like broken up rubble it wasn't even the correct material the people who replaced the order with have literally have gone to the level of weighing the container and filling it to the correct kilogram of rubble so the whole thing was pretty much just a waste of money needless to say then the supplier just went underground and he never got his money back now I think that was about 10 20 years ago I can't really remember but in terms of things like that happening today yes it does there will be obviously there's going to be people out there that's that want to take advantage of people but it's a lot more difficult to do because just going aliexpress and alibaba now and you can see how long stores have been in business you can see how many orders they've sold and fulfilled you can see what start rating they've got so in terms of finding a good supplier as well it's just so much more easier to do now and if anything it's only going to get easier to do that if it cannot talk it's already really easy so in terms of finding products and suppliers then it's just a really easy process to do and if anything at all it's only going to get easier into 2019 so hopefully you guys enjoyed that little story then if you did please leave a like on the video and if you want to hear more stories like that then about my past experiences and ships to China then just make sure you leave a comment down below or something so anyway moving on to point number two then which is Shopify now to be honest with you guys I haven't used any other platform online any other e-commerce platform online in terms of like how in depth I've used it compared to Shopify I haven't so I can't really talk much about Shopify versus other platforms but what I can tell you is that if you want to make a lot of money then Shopify is more than adequate and in terms of one thing I have looked at is add-ons like things like the Shopify app market and extra apps you can get for Shopify if you compare that to any other platforms like WooCommerce, Wix, WordPress then the add-ons you can get at just second to none and that alone should be enough to sway your decision just purely because the add-ons you can get like will significantly increase your revenue if you use them correctly things like upsells and cross sales customizations you can do to your website free shipping bars countdown timers around certain times of the year great as well so in terms of add-ons then it's really good and since I started using it then going on probably two and a half years now it's changed quite a lot especially in terms of the reporting that you can do again I can't really talk about other platforms but what I'm trying to say is they keep putting more money into it and developing it so in terms of moving into 2019 and even further I can't see any reason why they wouldn't continue to do that and it goes back to that whole competition thing so there are loads of other e-commerce platforms so they're all going to be competing against each other which should make all of them up their game so Shopify should make sure they stay on top of everybody else and hopefully then keep their prices down as well so there's not really a lot more I can say about it ultimately you want to do your own research but from my point of view then I don't think you can beat Shopify now but I will say then that one place or one area then that Shopify does fall short to the other sort of things like Wix and WordPress is that it's not drag and drop so when it comes to design and customization in terms of the aesthetics and appearance of your site then it's not as flexible as other platforms but on the flip side of that then the customizations that Shopify does give you is more than adequate to make more than enough money than probably most of you do want to make and you can actually make those changes as well but you will obviously need some sort of coding experience and what a lot of people don't realize as well is that when you start a Shopify account then you do actually get one hour's free like time with a Shopify designer if you go into the chat section then you can actually ask them to do things for you and you do like I said you do get one hour's free not design work with a Shopify designer so if you haven't used that yet and you do want to make certain changes then definitely something worth checking out so moving on to point number three and this is actually a really important point because if you want to scale your business then to be making significant figures then you're not going to be able to do everything yourself one of the hardest decisions is letting go of things things like customer services well which is like people representing your business on a like on a first instance like a first impression if you don't get your customer service right then it will just destroy your business so that's one of the hardest things to let go but it's also one of the most time consuming and I don't want to say unskilled but as people stand a drop shipping business then our main focus has to be on marketing because that's ultimately what's going to bring the customers in so point number three then is labor or virtual assistance then basically people to bring in and work for you so order fulfillment customer service and this is a really important point because as I mentioned if you want to scale so the point in which I started hiring VAs which was about 70,000 revenue just because I found myself spending probably two to three hours a day just on overload fulfilling the orders and two to three hours of my time at that point was a lot of time I was still working a nine to five so like I said it was it's not unskilled work but it's work that would have been better off done elsewhere so I could focus on the important thing so doing the product research and building Facebook ads and Facebook campaigns and moving into 2019 again as the internet grows especially in these countries that are less developed and people's skills as well people start to hear more about things like Shopify and opportunities for designers as well which is crucial again if you want to be successful with Facebook then I always recommend having your own unique ad whether that's an image or a video then more and more people are going to be coming online on people on places like Fiverr or Upwork and again it comes back to that whole competition thing competition is going to go create it it always always increases especially when it comes to the internet because more and more people are using it so as competition increases so does the quality of the work and it should drive down prices or at least keep prices very competitive which is always a good thing again for people like us who are going to be bringing people in then to help with things like that so to give you guys an example then of why virtual assistants and designers are so important then so going back to the whole order fulfillment so two to three hours every single day in two to three hours I could probably come up with maybe a list of five or ten really decent products or I could do that doing order fulfillment or I could pay someone $30 then to process my orders for the day so what I do is I pay my VA's $10 an hour regardless of whether they're doing order fulfillment customer service whatever it is now some of you guys who do have VA's might say that you can find people a lot cheaper than that and yes you can but the way I look at it is if you if you give somebody more than what they expect then they're going to return the favor and give you more than what you expect so if you're going to pay someone the bare minimum then expect the bare minimum service whereas if you pay someone what they expect and more then hopefully they should return that favor if they're a decent person and at the end of the day what's if I'm going to pay somebody $5 or $10 an hour over the course of three hours what's that $15 a day depending on what kind of products you're selling you can make that back for one single order so in my eyes then paying that extra amount is worth the return so all that being said they're moving on to the fourth and final point I feel like I've been talking for hours so if you're still watching now I really do appreciate it thank you very much the fourth and final and most important point then is marketing so this is going to be the biggie then and probably the the point that kind of turns you on to stand a store turns you off and that is so speaking about Facebook ads and because that's usually kind of the examples and what I talk about most in this channel now Facebook ads are getting more expensive so when I first started back in July 2016 then I could pretty much put an ad out and just average five pound per purchase and it would be no biggie like it'd be pretty easy to do I've documented it in past videos so just go and search for those and in today's world then that's not so much the case Facebook marketing has got so much so much bigger and again it goes back to that whole competition thing at the end of the day Facebook ads are bidding platform so essentially think of it like eBay everybody's bidding for that for that advertising space or that all for that cost per click or that purchase so the more people that are advertising in your space then the more it's going to cost you and again as it becomes more and more popular as more and more people cotton on to how effective Facebook is then it's just going to drive at prices so yes that's a bad thing but there's a few things in that we can do to make the most of it or at least adapt and make sure that we actually survive so number one is sell more expensive products so it's going to become harder to achieve those lost cost those low cost per purchases but if you sell more expensive products then there's going to be more room in there to effectively account for your marketing cost so if you follow me on instagram i'll post a lot of stuff on there when it comes to my own facebook ads and you'll see that i average anywhere from sort of kind of around a nine ten pound per purchase so depending on what your product costs obviously that's going to fit in or it isn't and also what you need to be doing what's going to be key then pretty much from now onwards is building a brand or at least building a following on social media because the more followers that you have on social media then the less money you're going to have to invest into into marketing so put it this way then put it this way then as a new business with zero followers then in terms of organic traffic we might get one or two from when we put a post on instagram or facebook whatever it is but essentially 100 percent of our traffic then is going to come from marketing which is so it's a hundred percent paid traffic whereas if we had a million followers across all platforms then essentially every time we put a post out which is going to be free then we're going to get a significant amount of traffic so that's what that's the way you've got to look at it you've got a kind of it's like a balancing act so facebook ads starts up up here and then organic traffic is here but as you build your following then you want to do it like this and obviously as your organic following increases then the amount you spend on ads should decrease because essentially you can bring more people onto your store just through posting on social media and just to illustrate then how important this point is you've probably already heard the story by now but it's one of the Kardashians I think it's Kylie Jenner has one of the biggest Shopify stores in the world that did almost a billion dollars in sales in the first year and she didn't run a single ad it was all just by pushing her products through her social media following so in terms of starting a business now and moving forward then branding or like I said at least having a social media following is going to be absolutely critical to your success if you just purely try and rely on your facebook ads then you can be successful but what I'm saying is that it's going to be difficult or at least going to be a lot more difficult than if you had that big or large or social media following to back and that goes for email marketing as well so I'm not going to go into too much detail now but when I talk about facebook ads you obviously have your front-end ads which is essentially going out to cold traffic so it's the initial point of contact with a potential customer and every time they see your brand and hear from you then obviously they start becoming more aware of you and if they enter into your store you can retag them so retagging ads are going to convert a lot more so that's going to drive down your cost per purchase and if they make a purchase and allow you to to essentially send them emails then again that's another way that's another point of contact and again another way email marketing is one of the cheapest ways of marketing as well and that's going to make people bring it in again that's going to drive down your overall cost per purchase across all platforms so I guess to kind of summarize then facebook ads for 2019 they're going to get more and more expensive but like I just mentioned there are a few things you can do about it but that being said then that still doesn't take away from the fact that facebook ads add the most powerful it's the most powerful method of marketing in my opinion because in terms of the level of of tagging you can do on your actual customer suit like just to name a few like crucial things so age, gender, interests, location, what platform they're on you just don't get that on any other kind of marketing platform so it's still the place to be and if you want to get involved in dropship and you've got to think about it long term and if like I said if you put a lot of time into facebook ads and learn it then it's going to be such a valuable skill so if you're thinking about getting started dropshipping in 2019 then you've got to think of it of a long term and kind of like a journey or a development and if you put a lot of time into facebook ads and develop those skills then that one skill alone will make you a millionaire whether that's your goal or not it's such a valuable skill like I said if you can make somebody more money than what they have to pay you then pretty much any business in the world will want to hire you so to kind of summarize then I'll give you like an overview of this video then dropship in 100 yes in terms of pretty much any other business model just to talk about the required investment upfront is kind of minuscule compared to other other similar business models so yes it's definitely worth standing 2019 but just be aware of the points that I've just discussed and if you guys have got a different opinion to me or what are your thoughts then leave a comment down below I'm always interested to hear from you guys and see what kind of like the general consensus is and that being said then I'm going to wrap the video up I've got absolutely no idea how long this video is it could be 10 minutes it could be half an hour and there's going to be a lot of editing to do but anyway if you're still watching thank you very much for watching I really appreciate the support and I'll see you guys in the next one


Hello and welcome to the session. In this session, first of all let us discuss the amount of NUT left unpaid. Now if the NUT is left unpaid for N years then the equivalent amount which will be paid at the end of Nth year is same as the amount the ordinary NUT certain. Therefore the amount of ordinary NUT that is A is equal to A upon I into 1 plus I whole raised to power N minus 1 the whole where A that is small A is the annual payment of each installment of NNUT of N periods the rate of interest is R% per period and I lose the interest of 1 dollar for the same period and I is equal to R upon 100. Now let us discuss what is a thinking fund. Now it is a fund that is accumulated for the purpose financial application in future designated date. Now if the periodic is required to accumulate capital A dollars to periods where interest percent fund period is the interest for the same period and I is equal to R upon 100 then capital A is equal to A upon I into 1 plus I whole raised to power N minus 1.  An example to accumulate money from his retirement age by setting aside a certain sum of money every year which will earn him compound interest it is done by investing is created. Now a thinking fund was created for the following purposes. Child's education, second is machine replacement and third is redemption of the values. Now let us discuss endowment and scholarship. Now in this the individual may donate the money in a lump sum or number of years so that a purpose will be created from the donation to pay scholarships to bride or native students every year and such a purpose is called an endowment fund. And here the scholarship will be paid for a fixed number of years or in perpetuity that is forever and it cannot be called as a scholarship fund. Now let us illustrate it with the help of an example. Now suppose dollars per annum awarded in the bank giving an interest now if the scholarship is awarded that is in perpetuity that is forever then we have capital P is equal to A upon I. Now here A is given to us as 5000 dollars so this is equal to 5000 and I is equal to I upon 100 that is 5 upon 100 so this will be 5 upon 100 so P will be equal to 5000 over 5 into 100. Which is 100000 dollars. Now this is the amount which will have to be deposited in the lump sum to meet the liability of a payment of scholarship of 5000 dollars per annum and lastly then P will be equal to A upon I into 1 minus 1 plus I whole raised to power minus N and this complete whole which is equal to upon which is 0.05 into 1 minus 1 plus I will be equal to 1.05 minus 5 upon 0.05 into 1 minus 1 upon 1.05 whole raised to power 5 and this complete whole upon 0.05 into 1 minus 1 upon this is equal to 5000 upon 0.05 into 1 minus 0.78 whole the whole which is equal to upon 0.05 into 0.21600 dollars. Now this is the amount which will have to be deposited in the lump sum to meet the liability of a payment of a scholarship of 5000 dollars per annum for the period of 5 years. Scholarships may be paid in perpetuity so in this session you have learnt about left unpaid scholarship fund. So this concludes our session. Hope you all have enjoyed the session.


Hey guys, what is up? Welcome to my channel. So for today's video I'm really excited because I'm going to do another unboxing. I just did my beauty list unboxing But I'm going to do my Jeffree Star Valentine's Day mystery box unboxing. So excited for this I'm more so intrigued by this because there's been a big buzz about these boxes I don't have a lot from the Jeffree Star line I have like tried a couple lip liners and some eyeshadow palettes because I do like his eyeshadow palette I haven't really experimented with the brand. So I got the bigger box, which was the 75 They also had I believe it was like a $40 one. I don't know. Let's just Look inside the box by the way. It's super cute. All right So immediately I see that I got a pop socket with the Jeffree Star logo on it I've never used a pop socket before so I guess here's my opportunity. I do like Jeffree Star So, okay moving on immediately. I say I don't have an eyeshadow palette I was kind of hoping I would get an eyeshadow palette just because it was $75 But whatever let's keep going. So I did get one lip liner and this is in the shade Unicorn blood so I have tried his lip liners before and I do really think they are a good formula They can be a bit drying but they do last on your lips a really long time can't get it out of its box All right, so his lip liners have this really cute packaging and then Unicorn blood is just kind of like a dark red color. This actually would have looked really good with my lipstick right now So I'm happy about this I really do like the formula of this and the packaging is so cute this and a bunch of them in a cup make perfect decor I'm literally scared because every star has crazy colors and I just So this is the Jeffree Star obviously cosmetics Skinfrost in the shade lavender snow Okay, I'm really nervous about this. First of all, this is huge. This is literally the size of my head basically I Don't know what I'm gonna do with this color. Oh These are Holy cow super soft. I've never tried this formula before really metallic So when I was ordering this box, I knew I would get crazy colors That's the premise of Jeffree Star, but I still for some reason was hoping for neutral colors I have no idea what I'm gonna do with this. It's not like a super crazy color But I actually kind of could make this work I think but this is a really good all of our lid color, but oh my gosh I don't think I'll ever make a dent in it. And then we also have the supreme frost highlighter This is in frozen peach that sounds promising Okay, so this is the packaging and then so this looks like something I can definitely work with Complete different formula than that first skin frost much more of a sheer formula very Glittery. Yeah, definitely. I have some glitters to it. That's lavender frost Okay, so I'm really excited to try this and I think it's really neat that I get to try both of the formulas All right, so we have looks like a few lip products here This is the liquid lipstick in the shade posh spice and this is definitely a color I can work with this looks very nude a very cool toned nude almost like gray So that's what that looks like definitely can see myself getting down with this color really excited I've never tried the liquid lipstick formula. There's also another one in here. This is the shade diamond Oh my goodness. Yep. This is typical Jeffrey star Fashioned will I ever wear this color on my lid? Oh my gosh. It's even more neon in person like No, I won't ever wear that but what's really neat about his liquid lipsticks is a lot of people use them for liquid eyeliner I do have an Instagram where I do play around with a lot more colorful looks So I actually think I'm going to use this as a liquid liner or I mean if I ever do a crazy look I Mean, I'm clearly not gonna get a lot of use out of this basically is what I'm saying. This is fun. Okay, so then I have a Another liquid lipstick. I don't even really like liquid lipstick. This is in the shade dream house, which is a Metallic Barbie pink.  That is crazy I actually can see myself doing some looks with this. So that's the bottom one right there I definitely can see myself doing some looks with this, but I don't think I'll use it that often Let's be honest here, and then I did get one lip ammunition So these are really cute and this is Jeffrey's girl. Oh My gosh This is so crazy bright take a look at that. That's I Feel like I wish I wouldn't have gotten to kind of similar colors But I do have a theory though that pink lipstick is gonna come back like hot pink lipstick because venti It just announced their new liquid lipstick that they're coming out with and it's like more of a hot pink So I think we have a future for hot pink lips. I don't necessarily know how well they flatter me They're not my favorite formula, but very bright hot pinks. I don't know I should wear them more honestly though cuz they're cute. Okay, and then I did get a shirt. I opened this already I'm not gonna lie and this just says I saw two other unboxing videos, and I guess everybody got this it just says can't Relate really cute Valentine's II. I've never had like youtuber apparel before, but I'm glad it's like makeup related you know, alright, so overall my box I got a shirt a Skinfrost and a supreme frost both our highlighting powders just different formulas a lip liner three liquid lipsticks and a Lipstick so $75 that's pretty good And then again here are the colors in case you're wondering pretty colorful outcome. I think I'll only really wear like Three things that I caught in my box. All right So overall do I think it was worth it if you are somebody who? Wears a lot of crazy colors. Oh my gosh. Absolutely. This box is worth it if you're like me, and you don't wear crazy colors I can't say that this box is worth it. It's really not I don't have a lot of Jeffrey star things So in that regard this is kind of good for me because I can try a lot of his Formulas and maybe go back and purchase these formulas in colors that I would actually wear But for the most part I did only get like three things that are actually going to be worth the money for me So $75 is kind of a lot. I don't think it was worth it for me But if you're ordering a Jeffrey star mystery box, you know, you're getting crazy colors and stuff like that So you can't complain. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying from a practical standpoint This probably wasn't worth it for me It's really fun though because you just don't know what you're gonna get because he does have so many crazy things and I mean his packaging is gorgeous just having his collection is just pretty to look at I think if I were to do it again I would get the smaller butts just so I can get the different formulas to try out But I don't know if this ever comes out I'll probably end up doing it again just for the fun of it practical standpoint This really wasn't worth it But it is really fun and I'm still kind of really excited to play with this stuff honestly I am kind of disappointed though that I didn't get an eyeshadow palette I really was hoping to get an eyeshadow palette That's what makes the mystery box is really fun is when you get a really nice prize like that Like the beauty list ones were nicer because I felt like I got nicer stuff for the same value Anyways, I hope you guys enjoyed this video. I'm now going to binge on these unboxings It was more of the mystery for me. I don't really own a lot of Jeffrey star And I just kind of wanted to see what I would get because of all the hype So I hope you guys enjoyed this video remember to subscribe to my channel Like this video and I hope to see you guys in the next video. Bye guys. Have a great day


At the vice presidential debate, COVID-19 expectedly came up and Mike Pence had his work cut out for him because he had to do two things in order to be effective. First of all, he had to prove to Americans that he's at least one of the grown-ups in the room when dealing with this virus because we know that Trump is incapable of acting like an adult. So we just had to prove to us that he's at least a little bit more responsible than Donald Trump. Second of all, he had to somehow defend what's effectively indefensible. He had to defend and explain himself to the American people as to why this administration, one was untruthful about the severity of this virus and why 210,000 Americans are dead on their watch. How you do this, I don't know, but before I show you what he had to say, this was the opening sequence of the debate and this was the first question that Kamala was asked. You can tell by the way that she shreds him, it's going to be really difficult for him to try to save himself here because, again, this is difficult to defend, something that's indefensible. But the way that she attacked him for bungling this pandemic, it really was brilliant. Take a look. What would a Biden administration do in January and February that a Trump administration wouldn't do? Would you impose new lockdowns for businesses in schools and hotspots, a federal mandate to wear masks? You have two minutes to respond without interruption. Thank you, Susan. Well, the American people have witnessed what is the greatest failure of any presidential administration in the history of our country. And here are the facts. 210,000 dead people in our country in just the last several months. Over 7 million people who have contracted this disease. One in five businesses closed. We're looking at frontline workers who have been treated like sacrificial workers. We are looking at over 30 million people who in the last several months had to file for unemployment. And here's the thing. On January 28th, the vice president and the president were informed about the nature of this pandemic. They were informed that it's lethal in consequence, that it is airborne, that it will affect young people, and that it would be contracted because it is airborne. And they knew what was happening and they didn't tell you. Can you imagine if you knew on January 28th as opposed to March 13th what they knew what you might have done to prepare? They knew and they covered it up. The president said it was a hoax. They minimized the seriousness of it. The president said, you're on one side of his ledger if you wear a mask, you're on the other side of his ledger if you don't. And in spite of all of that today, they still don't have a plan. Well, Joe Biden does. And our plan is about what we need to do around a national strategy for contact tracing, for testing, for administration of the vaccine, and making sure that it will be free for all. That is the plan that Joe Biden has and that I have, knowing that we have to get a hold of what has been going on. And we need to save our country. And Joe Biden is the best leader to do that. And frankly, this administration has forfeited their right to reelection based on this. So she really did a good job right there. I think that that's effective. I think that's going to land. And I was a little bit worried when she, you know, she was asked basically, what would you do differently? And I was worried that she was taking too much time pointing out what Donald Trump did wrong. But she did actually land on some solutions and she didn't spend as much time on that. But the way that she presented it made it seem as if, oh, well, the solution actually is pretty simple. We need contact tracing. We need to make sure we do more testing. And these are things that Trump says he's doing. We have more testing than any other countries. But I mean, you keep talking, you keep saying that you're doing all of this stuff, but we're seeing cases spike again. 40,000 new cases a day, 45,000 new cases a day, 210,000 deaths. So the solution, it isn't that complicated. Kamala Harris, I think she did a great job at explaining how you failed and why it's really not that difficult. You just need a serious person to get in there and fix it. So, you know, that right there, if people tuned in just for like the first 10 minutes of the debate and then tuned out and all they saw was that Kamala Harris is coming away looking really good. Now, if they saw this, Kamala Harris is coming away looking even better because Mike Pence tried to defend himself and he came off as smug and fake. And what he says is honestly just embarrassing. And that was he suspended all travel from China, the second largest economy in the world. Now, Senator Joe Biden opposed that decision. He said it was xenophobic and hysterical. But I can tell you, having led the White House Coronavirus Task Force, that decision alone by President Trump bought us invaluable time to stand up the greatest national mobilization since World War II. And I believe it saved hundreds of thousands of American lives. Because with that time, we were able to reinvent testing, more than 115 million tests had been done to date. We were able to see to the delivery of billions of supplies so our doctors and nurses had the resources and support they needed. And we began really before the month of February was art to develop a vaccine and to develop medicines and therapeutics and saving lives all along the way. And under President Trump's leadership, Operation Warp Speed, we believe, will have literally tens of millions of doses of a vaccine before the end of this year. The reality is when you look at the Biden plan, it reads an awful lot, like what President Trump and I and our Task Force have been doing every step of the way.  Which is something Joe Biden knows a little bit about. And I think the American people know that this is a president who has put the health of America first in the American people, I believe with my heart, can be proud of the sacrifices they have made. It's saved countless American lives. Senator Harris, would you like to respond? Absolutely. Whatever the vice president is claiming the administration has done, clearly it hasn't worked. When you're looking at over 210,000 dead bodies in our country, American lives that have been lost, families that are grieving that loss. And you know, the vice president is the head of the Task Force and knew on January 28th how serious this was. And then thanks to Bob Woodward, we learned that they knew about it. And then when that was exposed, the vice president said, when asked, well, why didn't y'all tell anybody? He said, because the president wanted people to remain calm. Well, let's get to that. No, but Susan, this is important. And I want to add that if Mr. Vice President, I'm speaking, I'm speaking. You can get 15 more seconds and then we'll give the vice president a chance to respond. So I want to ask the American people, how calm were you when you were panicked about where you're going to get your next roll of toilet paper? How calm were you when your kids were sent home from school and you didn't know when they could go back? How calm were you when your children couldn't see your parents because you were afraid they could kill them? Let's give vice president Pence a chance to respond. Vice presidents, you have one minute to respond. You know, there's not a day gone by that I haven't thought of every American family that's lost a loved one. And I want all of you to know that you'll always be in our hearts and in our prayers. But when you say what the American people have done over these last eight months hasn't worked, that's a great disservice to the sacrifices the American people have made. The reality, if I may finish, the reality is Dr. Fauci said everything that he told the president in the Oval Office, the president told the American people. Now President Trump, I will tell you, has boundless confidence in the American people and he always spoke with confidence that we'd get through this together. But when you say it hasn't worked, Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx and our medical experts came to us in the second week of March. They said if the president didn't take the unprecedented step of shutting down roughly half of the American economy, that we could lose 2.2 million Americans. That's the reality.  That was a horrible answer. So first of all, he defends himself by saying or implying rather that they would have been more competent than Joe Biden because they instituted the travel ban from China, which Joe Biden said was xenophobic. Now, here's the thing and I wish that Kamala Harris would have pointed this out. You knew about the severity of COVID-19. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden did not.  You already have a Muslim ban on the books. So it's like, are we really that unreasonable, especially if we don't know how severe this is? But you do. I mean, you could have been upfront with us and say, look, this is airborne. This is a lot worse than the common cold or the flu. So we have to take these precautions, but you didn't do that. So to just say, well, we did the China ban. That isn't sufficient. Like that doesn't make you look good, especially because you had complete information and everyone else had incomplete information.  On top of that, he brought up plagiarism. He says, well, look, your action plan looks pretty similar to ours. Looks like it was plagiarized and Joe Biden wouldn't know a thing or two about plagiarism. Now, as I stated in my full debate breakdown, yes, Joe Biden was humiliated before when he ran for president because he was busted, plagiarizing speeches. But you're clearly trying to divert attention away from you and attack Joe Biden. But here's the thing right now.  Like if we're having a conversation within the context of like who's more trustworthy, then maybe you bring up the plagiarism thing. But to bring up plagiarism just randomly and take that potshot while you're talking about a serious issue where more than 200,000 Americans have died because you have bungled it. I mean, the average person is going to think, I don't care if he's a plagiarist so long as he actually handles this virus so my life can return to normal. Like for him to just shoehorn that in, it was out of place. It was off-putting and it's just a bad look because you are the one who's supposed to defend yourself and Kamala is not a plagiarist. So what is she supposed to say to that? You're not even saying this to Joe Biden. So it just, it came off horribly. And I think that Kamala Harris responded in a way that was sufficient. She said, look, whatever you guys are doing, if we're copying your plan, it hasn't worked. And on top of that, you were the head of the task force. So why are we seeing so many deaths? So he just, there was no way that he was able to back himself out of a corner. And you know, to say all of these wonderful things about how, oh, we love the American people. We respect the American people. It's not enough. But the worst moment by far of this exchange was when he misconstrued Kamala Harris' argument deliberately. And he said, you know, when you say that the American people, what they've done hasn't worked, that's just insulting. And I'm paraphrasing, but anyone who's watching sees that it was obvious. Kamala Harris was not saying, oh, the American people are terrible at handling this pandemic. She was referring specifically to this administration. When she says you've bungled COVID-19, why would you extrapolate and think that she is talking about the American people? The American people don't have power in this situation. You have power. You're in control. You're in the White House. You've got the Oval Office.  It's not the American people.  And there's no way that he believes that that's what she meant.  No, no. Nobody's going to buy that. So this was a horrible look for Mike Pence. And, you know, I know I just said that that part was the worst part, but I want to talk about the most embarrassing part. And Trump did this as well. And I don't know why they do this, but Mike Pence brought up swine flu. He brought up swine flu in a conversation about COVID-19 where more than 200,000 Americans have died. Take a look. If the swine flu had been as lethal as the coronavirus in 2009, when Joe Biden was vice president, we would have lost 2 million American lives. It is astonishing to me that they think this is persuasive because every time you invoke swine flu, all you do is remind people that Obama and Biden handled that more competently. Because does anyone remember a relative dying from swine flu? The numbers are much, much smaller. Does anyone remember the economy collapsing because of swine flu and their entire lives being changed, losing their jobs because of swine flu? No. So for you to say, well, hypothetically, if, you know, swine flu was as deadly as COVID, then, you know, if you crunched the numbers and you divide by two, then it would have been... No. We're not dealing with hypotheticals. We're dealing with reality. And the fact of the matter is that Obama and Biden handled swine flu adequately. Because guess what? It was gone pretty quickly. That's not the case with COVID-19. And hundreds of thousands of people are dying.  Like if I am advising Donald Trump and Mike Pence, I tell them to stay far away from swine flu because you're just going to remind people that, you know, these types of things can actually be... mitigated. We can contain the spread of viruses if we have someone who's competent. So this was a disaster for Mike Pence. And this is why I think, you know, largely coming away from this debate, even if Mike Pence wasn't as bad as a debater as Donald Trump, not like even bad in terms of debating people. Like I think that Trump probably just turned off more people. Mike Pence is a better debater than Donald Trump. But people right now, they want answers and COVID-19 is the number one issue. This is the number one thing that's affecting people's lives.  It just, it makes you look so bad. And, you know, you think that he would have expected this to come up and had prepared a better response for it. And everything he said, I think was rehearsed and pre-written. But the fact that this is all that you came up with, it's just honestly laughable.


So live I want to see I don't know why I want to see Valerian in the city of a thousand planets as very much as a fifth element because it's the same director yeah right now it's got his stamp all over it but I I want to see it there's some about it there's and this is interesting I don't care about the plot I'm very interested in the world because that was the thing about the fifth element was the world-building that they did with it I thought was very very compelling and I think that's one of the things that gets lost when they do a lot of these not genre movies but adaptation movies like the Marvel DC Star Trek toward the later the later movies is there rain Wilson's gonna be in Star Trek Discovery the TV show which way which one's rain Wilson he's the guy from the office yes yes I know that he's gonna play he's gonna play Harry mud the true yeah you know you know what he'd be perfect for it yeah perfect for it hard-cored Fenton mud I like rain he's good but the world that the like having a living breathing I think that's one one of the things that made um Guardians of the Galaxy so fun was the world that they inhabited right you like if you if it was a standard kind of like gang heist you know you know we get a fun characters in an interesting world yeah yeah they just made a very fun I mean that's a movie that to be honest is kind of forgettable but it's still a fun movie you sit through it and you enjoy it anytime you can fly into a giant head yeah and they never really explained that unless you're a Marvel comics fan you understand why it's a giant floating head but it's it's you have to develop a world that's I mean you know the world of the rings the world is part of it that's what draws you in the middle of the Star Wars like oh I want to go a planet where everyone is like writing a space camel or something right you know it's kind of cool like you know how many people weren't like thrilled when the Millennium Falcon and the return of the Jedi was if return of the Jedi flow of the giant spaceworms now that's Empire Empire Empire Empire Shakespeare when it's like the giant spaceworms now well then the Starlight Pit was kind of a disappointment initially because all the look was all it looked like was a hole in the ground with teeth that they glued into it ooh all right are we ready to go sphincter of tattooing all right hiding Mr. Ashley are you prepared absolutely fantastic let me just do one thing all right here we go daily tech news show is powered by you the audience to find out more head to daily tech news show comm slash support this is the daily tech news for Friday March 31st 2017 I'm Tom married Chris Ashley from SMR podcast alongside on this Friday good to have Chris thank you sir what it do oh I'm so glad to be headed into the weekend it wasn't a bad week just a long week somehow I don't know why yeah I was a traveling last week and I was telling a story on our show last how awful it was to get back the trip was good the you know the the meetings were great very productive and then I get stuck in Canada last flight out after sitting in the airport for three hours and then it just like okay so we're still more planes to the US so we didn't spend the night and you know and then all the restaurants are closed so it kind of made this week drag never get in man not even any free Tim Hortons nothing well here's the problem right so I went to Tim Hortons there was in the right in the whole in the airport open was Tim Hortons a place called chicken burger and and some kind of brewery so we went to the brewery first and realize I'm sorry to tell you that the only thing we have left are two burger patties and and some chicken fingers and I was like I'm not taking the last two burger patties from any restaurant so I guess chicken fingers chicken fingers you walk over there three teenagers working in the back one of them's got a bottle of sauce that's all over his fingers all over the bottle and they're just laughing and I was like oh no no no no we can't eat here the little thing else was Tim Hortons and then I walk up to the Tim Hortons register and what do I see new trainee I was like oh gosh wait for losing words but that's why I ended up beating at Tim Hortons though just grab the quick sandwich there gotcha gotcha well someday all of those jobs may be taken by robots and that's gonna be our main topic later today is what that new trainee does in that situation but let's start off with a few tech things you should know auto co-founder Anthony Levendowski pleaded the fifth amendment protection against self-incrimination in regard to documents pertaining to Waymo's lawsuit against Uber which owns auto and I guess the judge said it's not gonna stop me from putting it in an injunction if I want to so this this case is heating up yeah the only time Dave Chappelle has forever ruined the term plead the fifth for me because if you've ever watched his skit and you see him playing the character Tron and he's in there singing I plead the fifth that's how Anthony Levendowski I hope that because that's gonna be the only fun part of this for him synaptics announced the new fingerprint scanner called the FS4600 capable of force sensitive presses swipe gestures and support for software navigation buttons so if Samsung had used this they wouldn't have to put the fingerprint sensor on the back if they didn't want to that should be arriving in your products in Q3 you know early on in in life you would think you know this is not a big deal but the more I use fingerprint sensors the more I want them everywhere yeah any improvement to technology in this area is good for me because my corporate computer I have to type my ridiculous password to get into it and in my surface I can just show my smiling face and log right in that great awesome for me snapchat announced Friday it's rolling out a search function for photos and videos posted publicly to our story so this is the curated version but they say they'll have you know a few thousand pictures you can search for if you just really need to see some puppies or something I don't know man you know the more stuff we have online the more avenues we have for people to search out your information I'm sure all the private investigators are pretty happy about this yeah sure all right here's some more top stories Palmer lucky has left Facebook and therefore Oculus the company he co-founded in a statement to TechCrunch Oculus said Palmer will be dearly missed lucky's last public statement was back on September 23rd in response to news reports about his involvement in a group supporting President Trump's campaign lucky did not appear at the Oculus developer conference in the fall he did appear in court as part of the lawsuit brought by a Zenimax against Oculus where he was found guilty of violating an NDA and then in January they named Hugo Bara as VP of VR at Facebook with Oculus underneath him Brendan Arriba was no longer the CEO of Oculus as of December he he's in charge of PC VR and now end of an era right Palmer lucky out at his own company it's crazy that that type of stuff can actually happen but I guess at the end of the day you got a greater responsibility to the company as opposed to yourself but you know with Microsoft January and Launch Project Scorpio in a couple weeks so in a couple months actually announce it you know which is their updated Xbox yeah yeah that's kind of weird timing I am curious where he goes next basically he's Facebook is very bad press averse and so I kind of felt back in September as soon as he had to do some some spin control that Mark Zuckerberg was probably going to look at a way to shuffle him quietly right out of that company I he think he's a really talented guy though and I wonder who is going to want to have to be able to make use of that talent maybe Microsoft oh maybe himself maybe he has his own plan maybe he'll start his own thing again that's you know that's he just kind of did it because he was into to screens and optics and was like hey I think I can make VR out of this it's a pretty great story still absolutely Twitter has changed the default picture for new accounts from an egg to a gray gum drop headed human I saw my first one just 30 minutes ago Twitter claims a photo gives less prominence to accounts with a default profile photo this is obviously not going to solve trolls on Twitter but you know the idea is that those eggs that are often used as people say eggs when they refer to trolls sometimes because people will create accounts about putting an avatar they won't be as easy to spot they won't be as prominent I don't know if you really want to do that just make it an empty box don't even put an avatar in there I guess yeah or maybe stop allowing people to have be anonymous on there I don't know that's I mean there's so many other things they should do to really fight this this isn't the thing that's all no no and in fact that you know that they even let this out they should have this is something that you should never have announced they should have just let it happen they're like oh not an egg anymore yeah now I'm a gum drop headed human yeah and they made a big deal of how they you know they tried to make it genderless like it is so that it's not necessarily a man or a woman and I'm like it's it's it's popular price character it's not yeah I mean it's a popular thing to do but at the end of the day they've got bigger problems you know the amount of trolling the attacks that occur you know to people that say something that they disagree with it they need to really get on on that and and I believe some people are saying oh great they spent all their time doing this I don't think it's the same teams that are working on fixing one that fixing the other but I get it like you people want to see more progress on the other front same time I'll be honest and this doesn't if this is not in relation to the troll problem at all I will be happy to see something that very clearly is an account without an avatar I remember when the eggs first showed up I thought that was people picking eggs for their avatar it was you know and of course I got used to it pretty quick but this is very this does very clearly say like no no default photo to me right yeah I guess yeah yeah Verizon has announced the installation of a search tool called app flash on all of its Android phones it'll be coming in the coming weeks the EFF notes the Verizon says on its site that the app will collect your mobile number device identifiers device type operating system list of apps you use contacts and location which it will then share with advertisers you can limit the information that the app collects and you can opt out of targeted ads but you cannot delete the app unless you root your Android phone this is one of the most disgusting things I have seen in online and you know in the news and it really really bugs me about this because the fact that they have this app ready to go after right after that both the house and the Senate passed the past the repeal yeah people wasn't even repeal block these rules aren't going into place right right great we don't prepare for that urge boom boom house Senate oh here's our new steal your information without telling you stuff I man I and unfortunately you know got it people aren't just not even gonna know this is happening and that's the worst part about it and here's the thing Verizon the good part of this is that those 2010 transparency rules did force Verizon to put this on its website and in the EFF did its job in finding that and saying hey folks this is what they say they're doing with it so that part of the system still works and so we know that they're doing it they they're not able to hide it also I mean I'll give them half points for allowing you to opt out I prefer opt-in but man putting on a collection app like this that you can't delete is just that's just adding insult to injury yeah how was that okay you can opt out of targeted ads but we're still can gather the information why because they can now link that information to the other information they gather about you know in fact I think it was I want to say Nick let me find somebody just sent an email right before the show so I didn't have a chance to put it in the full lineup no Nate sent an email pointing out like hey don't forget Verizon is in the process of acquiring Yahoo one of the biggest programmatic advertisers and they already own AOL so they can now take all of that ISP information cross-reference it with AOL and yah and eventually yahoo yeah it now makes the picture is a lot clearer because no one really understood why is Amazon why is Verizon buying yahoo yeah for the ads yeah yeah and so now you got the ads the ad platform user information because there's no question how much user information we know that because they keep giving away well here's some good news total us retail sales from recorded music rose 11.4% to 7.7 billion the biggest rise since 1998 revenue from streaming services made up 51% of annual revenues for 3.9 billion the first time that streaming services have made up more the majority of revenues for the music industry and that's a big jump up 70% from last year when you break those numbers down sales from paid subscriptions more than doubled while free ad supported services like what you get from Pandora or YouTube rose 26% sales of digital downloads declined 22% that's not a big surprise at this point and of course sales of CDs declined as well you totally expect that the RIAA however said they could have been bigger if we had a better deal from YouTube and also we still want stronger copyright laws they still don't get it they just don't know they get it they get it just fine but you know it's nice to see that because you you know you'd like to see companies totally from the business standpoint like Pandora and all the streaming services actually be successful they came up with a new way to play music they drove the business and it's good so that part of it and you know you had Drake that's just broke streaming records I think you're right you know so Nicki Minaj I think was on the list as well so you know what the music is there the content is there and people are excited so I want to see the musicians getting their money you know which that that is something that sometimes happens sometimes doesn't but overall if the music industry is doing better that's more money that can go to musicians and I think that's good I've been saying for a couple years like you got to wait till streaming services get to scale before you start condemning them because you remember the music was railing against Spotify in the early days but now that it's starting to bring in the bucks they're backing off on that they just want a better deal from YouTube so they're putting the pressure on them they've been putting pressure on Pandora for the same thing for a long time and that's fine they're a business they should be pushing for a better deal I am I only get upset when they want to start changing laws which they want to do with the DMCA don't change the laws just to benefit a single business that is recovering and and doing but doing well and I think will continue to recover yeah unfortunately I have no hope that they're not gonna pass some kind of law or change some kind of law to make that happen fingers crossed I have a shred of hope I will have the hope for you Chris thank you I'm gonna raise my hope level up alright the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission has rejected an application by four banks to collectively negotiate with Apple over access to its NFC controller for payment applications why well the Commonwealth Bank of Australia Westpac Banking Corporation National Australia Bank and Bendigo and Adelaide Bank wanted to team up so that they could pressure Apple to let them create their own payment system for iOS in other words they said please let us collude so that we can force Apple to let us make our own Apple pay they didn't want to have to use Apple pay the ACC Chairman Rod Sims ruled that such a move would reduce competition on several fronts so now the banks are all gonna have to negotiate individually right so good you know because as much as you know I don't necessarily defend Apple every chance I get at all but you know what they got technology they invented it well they invented it for their device how I wanted it to work they made it popular and now hey give us what you got or allow us access to what you got so we can do our own thing no I'm not feeling that at all well I mean I get it where it's like hey Apple has a monopoly over Apple pay because that's the way Apple works right it's got that that vertical system but if these four banks start to throw their weight around together they might be able to force that to happen and certainly if they can get it Apple to do it it would be easy to move it over to Android and then suddenly they're dominating the payment system in Australia which is why Rod Sims said yeah no there's a few different ways that this reduces competition so I don't think I don't think we're gonna allow it look why don't these guys figure out how to make the little credit card readers all have the same display information why don't you guys work on that first because sometimes you gotta push the green button otherwise you gotta skip it some machines now show debit twice and you're supposed to figure out which one is credit figure that stuff out first leave that I'll say everybody else is probably a US centric problem not an Australia problem because they've been on chip and pin for years but yeah I'm totally with you if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in less than five minutes folks you can subscribe to our sister show and I highly encourage you to do so Daily Tech headlines dot com So Rob Lucaccio is the founder and CEO of a company called Live Person uh he was somebody who was working with web chat for customer service back in the late 90s he's been doing this for a long time and he has a guest column on TechCrunch that says in the title we need a new deal to address the economic risks of automation and I'm gonna I'm gonna break down his reasoning here Chris but this is something I think a lot of people are thinking which is hey I love the idea of automation for self-driving cars for robots doing things more efficiently for AI chat bots that help me do things but is that going to put me out of work? Right and so this is such a multifaceted thing to think about because it gets into some of the fears that a lot of people have around introducing socialism or more social programs into the into the uh current economy but you can't just do things that take away people's jobs and then just be like good luck to you so you know I'm for automation because obviously it increases efficiency increase you know it says you get technological breakthroughs but man I I like the idea that they introduced in in this article about how they should go about at least addressing that. Yeah let's take a look at what he says uh first he lays out that 40 to 50 percent of tasks performed in customer care fall into a category that is highly susceptible to automation this is the industry he's in so he watches this very closely he estimates about three million people in the U.S. are employed in call centers uh so you know not every single one of them would be out of a job but a a big percent 40 to 50 percent could be other sectors that could be affected by this truck and taxi drivers we've talked about that before cashiers security guards retail clerks uh obviously manufacturing jobs already uh subject to replacement by automation and that's not going to get better in this situation he believes millions of Americans that face unemployment within the next decade and though new jobs are created as old jobs are automated the problem is displacement of workers many can't retrain because they're in a low wage job where they don't have the resources to to save up a lot of money to pay for retraining in a new career they certainly can't go retrain in their off time because they're spending all their time working so we're going to be in a situation where we have a lot of low skill low pay jobs and high skill high pay jobs and that middle is what you keep hearing people talking about is where this is getting eaten up so let me just ask you directly because what do you think of the idea to tax these companies that are bringing in these automation machines because personally I think it should happen you know because as it stands today we do a lot for for companies and rightly or wrong whichever side you fall on you can't just pull well I guess they could pull money out of nowhere we've seen that before but at the end of the day it's hard yeah we need to take care of people we need to get better about taking care of people and I saw I'm okay with the the taxing of this to help offset and maybe that creates education programs where these folks can go to and retrain maybe it actually pays these people and creates new revenue streams to pay people um you know I don't know if it's all out just you know sit there and let's just collect money you know I'm never down for for that aspect of it but I'm okay with this where do you fall yeah well there's there's three solutions that Luccasio mentions one of which is his own Bill Gates is is advocating what you're saying taxing automated services to slow down the rollout which would slow down the impact and give time to retrain people using those tax funds Elon Musk says just do universal basic income he's one of those guys who's like let's just give everybody ten thousand dollars a year there's a lot of studies still being done on whether that would actually help and there's no clear evidence that it would or it wouldn't so that's a pretty murky situation you can have a lot of opinions about that Luccasio is calling for a preemptive new deal he says go Roosevelt on this before we get the depression fund education and retraining programs in cooperation with employers that have jobs and encourage software platforms that require human input get people to create startups that require humans who are better at things like design creativity empathy judgment he says lean into what we've seen with things like Etsy and far organic farming where something that got automated in a huge amount manufacturing and farming had a resurgence for the human touch on things I worry that attacks if not very carefully implemented could actually slow down the rollout of automation too much because what you're talking about here is you're going to make if it all works out right what I believe is down the road it's going to be better for everyone because you're going to have more efficient ways and raise productivity but what you have to address is the displacement it's not that we're going to lose jobs I feel like we're going to make enough new jobs but you're going to displace people so I have a job at a call center my call center job goes away I'm not trained or maybe I'm not even the right location maybe my call center job is up in Wisconsin and all the jobs that I think I could get to take its place are out in California do I have the money to move to California and and join the tech circle out there maybe not so that's where I think yeah maybe a tech a precise tax on output or maybe there's a more creative way to do it that then funds people who can retrain maybe even move in certain cases to take new jobs I think that's essential I think you have to have a plan for that because the disruption is going to come fast and it's going to come big and it will work out over the long term but you need to have something to help people make that transition yeah yeah so essentially a some degree of a combination of some of the proposals that were in this article which I think makes the most sense because you're definitely going to need to come up come up with the money for the training for relocation as you just mentioned and you know just where else you're going to get it but from the people that are benefiting from that the same situation that's creating the displacement yeah so but at the same time we don't we don't want you're right it has to be intricate enough not to slow down progress you don't want to kill the industry that's creating the new jobs right right yeah so yeah man it I'm glad it's not my problem all right no kidding but yeah it's such a it's such a strange time because you know for folks like us that are super into technology who want to see these things but you know the compassion aside you you realize there is a serious detriment to to these things as well so as long as long as we and but I the biggest overall thing is now is the time to start being proactive yes how we address the situation and I thought I think that's the best part about this the whole discussion there's a New York Times article that just came out today that researchers at MIT and Boston University using real world data to do a study found there isn't a lot of employment increase to offset jobs lost in manufacturing right now due to automation and part of that is geography where where the jobs are not created in the location where the people in manufacturing lose their jobs but even when you when you kind of factor that out there's still not a huge increase in the jobs yet and so that that is the thing you need to look at too to say okay how how do we find ways to get people into the the new situations that they could take because what they're saying is not there are loss of jobs they're saying there's not jobs that these people who lose their jobs can get right yeah and so the only way around that is education and training and so I don't that's why I never understand especially for people coming up because you know we're pretty much for the most part set in our industries and what we're doing but the people coming up the kids coming up are the ones going to be in trouble and so I just never understand when when you know there are proposals to help pay for education to get you know and it's just like no we can't do that everybody and it's like you you have to look at the bigger picture you know we have these big part of middle America that where all these jobs are going you know even if even for the folks that are shipping jobs overseas it's really the same thing you know you ship the jobs overseas and then all of a sudden you create this vacuum of folks that don't have anything to do and a lot of these jobs that they decided you know in that whole car manufacturer they said okay we won't ship them all but they're still automating so there's like the problem's not solved it's just delayed well and MIT and Boston study that I mentioned tried to look and say well is the problem really oh you know outsourcing and overseas and they're like that has virtually no effect it's mostly automation from what they can tell that's the that's the bigger threat so and like you say it's not just kids who may not not be getting the education they need to move into these careers that's a huge problem it's also the the adults if I'm close to retirement age I'm in my 50s and I've been doing one job for you know for the most part all my life and suddenly you're like hey don't you want to become a a gig employee you know right on dog vacay.com doing dog walking and it's like no no that's not what I want to do no I've got a couple years left to work I'm definitely not trying to do that yeah or you know I've been I'm an excellent at putting these parts on these on this little other part and then creating something you know creating a car yeah and so yeah so it's just man I just don't I'm not seeing the happy ending that we would like to see at least at this point but at least you know again I'm happy that the conversation is happening but well and and I know some people say well hold on I don't want taxes to go up do we need you know the government spends too much money as it is however the government is going to spend more money if we don't have a plan for this great because you will spend money on people who get thrown out of work and are unemployed right because they'll get sick and that'll put a burden on the government system right you'll also lose tax money if you have a bunch of people sitting around idle instead of productively working at jobs so you want to make sure you get them into jobs so that then you're creating money that actually brings in tax revenue without raising taxes so spending a little bit in the right way that's the trick that's what Chris and I are both saying we're not have the answers but spending money in the right way saves you a lot of money down the road yeah you know and there's no question that once you create these areas that are now poverty stricken and all these folks are now disenfranchised and uneducated certainly crime is going to start going up and the folks will definitely turn to that as a means to make money so you know whether you want to invest to help you know educate the kids for the future you want to help invest to keep the streets safe and you know you can't look at this it's anyway as a bad thing finding the money and then creating these avenues for folks to get out of these situations that are already here but you know we're not near the peak of yeah yet at all and that's the trick right making sure you spend the money on a program that fixes these problems that prevents these problems and that's where the rubber meets the road because people have lost faith that that can happen so we're early enough that folks like Luccasio are making the call saying we need to start figuring this out but we're also early enough that nobody's really figured out what that actual solution would look like yet absolutely and i don't want to hear anything about no bootstraps either and i'm gonna hear about bootstraps picking ourselves up by the bootstraps yeah bootstraps are like buggy whips are they like that's a that's a 19th century technology you know this is what you love to hear i don't got any boots around that have straps i'm more intense no straps yeah hey thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit you can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit dot com uh got an email here from patrick and sunny but still a bit too chilly paris who says hey tom chris len and roger by the way if you're wondering where len is he had a family uh thing come up so he couldn't be with us but we do miss him and hopefully he'll be back next week patrick writes long-time listener and scarf wearing co-host well this is patrick beijer writing into the show that he co-host on tuesdays he says one last note about the isp's fcc privacy thing i believe one key element of that whole situation that has gone greatly unreported isps argue that they should be treated fairly and be afforded the same conditions as internet services like google and facebook that might sound reasonable at first but we should remember that isps are already getting paid for the service they provide whereas google and facebook are not if they want to play by the same rules maybe they can start offering free internet access to everyone in the country i won't hold my breath that's obviously a joke but it shows that they can't have it both ways well okay actually i guess they can what i mean is i don't think they should as nil i put tell put it in a video on the verge this means we're paying isps so they can also sell our data talk about adding insult to injury makes very little sense i could go on about the ideas that oh but we'll get cheaper internet because of the added revenue stream and sure we might if there was a reasonable amount of competition but those have been talked to death so i'll stop there hugs to y'all patrick and paris well that's a great point right because that was one of the major arguments that was used in this whole thing in the first place was the fact that they were saying well google and you know all these other guys they don't have to do this so why do we have to do it and they went the complete wrong direction they said okay well you don't have to do it no everybody should have to you know do it that was the right direction to go to but clearly this was a money grab and i forget which senator was that was speaking i think was two days ago when they were about to pass this thing and he was just like you know what do they need to know what kind of underwear it was hilarious but he was making great points he was saying you know they we should have made the rule for everybody not really lacks the rule and this one that was my point yesterday is is maybe the rules the FCC were going to put in place weren't the best but didn't come up with what are the the appropriate rules for your privacy and apply them to everybody who has an opportunity to gather data don't just say yeah you don't need you don't need this you know it this is a terrible terrible thing kevin from spring is really here tennessee actually had an idea what if google reveals a feature called gpn the google private network so when you're doing a search there'd be your traditional links but then an added feature would be a gpn link that google would fetch and run through a secure tunnel like a vpn google has had all my information for over a decade he writes and i have yet to have a negative consequence for that for better or worse i trust them more than i trust my isp no no you're not mine at all no they're part of the problem they're doing the same thing they're gathering data you know yes i get you want a vpn not a gpn you know for sure and who's gonna you know who's gonna be the next vpn provider and you know build those things right into routers that they sell but the reality is you know google you have to trust that google's why would google allow you to encrypt the information that they need it kind of goes against their business right that's that's the i mean it's a brilliant idea and i could almost see google doing it because sometimes they will do things that go against their business model because they know it you know creates warm fuzzy feelings with people but yeah yeah uh finally will in cloudy wait no rainy wait no sunny dublin writes uh he's been meaning to email since i spoke of planned meetups back around st patrick's day that on the first thursday of every month a selection of people who could best be described as your listener base meet up for pints and chats in dublin it's a great group of like-minded people and anyone who follows your show would fit right in they meet in the magpie in dalkey dublin from around 8 p.m uh for a few hours that's the first thursday of every month and we'll have details and some links in the show notes as well so if we got anybody out there in dublin looking for some like-minded folks to share a pint with uh made me really jealous when he sent me a picture of the Guinness he was having today uh i'd love to go join them as well one of these days maybe i'll get over there but uh yeah the magpie in dalkey dublin 8 p.m first thursday of every month uh look for will that's awesome isn't an awesome one when fans meet up with other fans and then they become friends because yeah man it's just awesome yeah plus good for you guys sounds great uh well good for you too thanks for joining us you're one of us now uh i'm here yeah tell folks about the smr podcast and what they can find there hey you can always check me out in my two buddies on the smr podcast mr rod Simmons and mr rob Dunwood every week week recorder show uh talking tech we might get into a little bit of politics from a tech standpoint we all work in the software industry so you know we have our own takes on it it's just a funny show uh and a fun show to listen to when you listen you have to feel like one of the guys uh one of the one of the pals in here so come check 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came first um the modern new deal new deal too electric boogaloo electric boogaloo that might be the leader keep going oh my um verizon facebook gets unlucky no more lucky at facebook um there's not as many titles typically yeah i think they they had a hard time getting showbot up and running uh today but at least they got it running so my vote goes to electric boogaloo yeah i voted for it too oh man so you got big plans this weekend tom uh yeah well we got a new dog oh man so we're gonna be hanging out with the dog she's a german shepherd mix okay we're calling her ray she's right down there right now sleeping uh she's she's my production assistant so we're gonna be hanging out with the dog and uh my wife just text messaged me like just the second uh she's at wondercon for work she said i bought soya a bow tie so here's our other dog oh geez and he's black with white on the front so we've been joking that he needed a bow tie for a long ride to go with his tux so i'm guess we're gonna dress up soya at a bow tie and hang around with the dogs what about you uh you know i just i'm gonna get my clean lady out here so the one the wife comes home she comes home oh i said where's the wife yes pilot she's in california actually oh really where is she in san francisco or something uh where did she go you don't know yeah i'm the worst i'm the worst i was just like i was like okay okay you know have a good trip but uh um she's out there she works in she works for a company that does like drug inventions you know like she used to work for astrazeneca and like a pharmaceutical company yeah she went to a smaller one nice out there for a convention and training and all that stuff so you know so yeah so it's just you know i gotta find that i'm definitely definitely because i've been gone i was in vegas a couple weeks ago that's why i couldn't catch it with you guys in and oh yeah and then uh uh canada last week so i am definitely firing up this man you've been traveling around yeah it's been you know i guess you know what when the economy is down everybody knuckles up you can't do it on web you know on the web you're gonna have a good reason to travel but you know they've kind of loosened up the pockets a little bit so that's good if you need to go yeah of course so you know it's like you need to go see somebody go see them so yeah so i'm you know taking advantage of it all right the new deal to electric boogaloo is at the top right now i'm good with that all right i think that's all all right i'm gonna jump out of here i take my little baby girl to gymnastics i so appreciate you having me on the show oh yeah thanks for coming back man it's always good haven't you anytime you want me i'm here absolutely you know what i want to get you and the robbs uh on one of my roundtable shows that i do once a month too we'll figure that out oh let's figure it out robin rod let's do it yeah all right great all right you guys have a wonderful weekend i'll talk to you soon see you bye so yes new deal to electric boogaloo has been chosen and i'm putting it in the id three times transition period a lot of people i mean none of these things ever go smoothly i mean that's just the nature of how that's one of the reasons i wanted to talk about his column because i think he's right about we need to decide we need to decide ahead of time i don't i don't really have a lot of faith that we will but he's right that we should and whether he's right about a new deal or whether it's some other solution that somebody has yet to come up with we need to start putting our brains against it yeah no i totally agree it's um it's definitely something worth planning yeah because i don't believe we'll that the robots will take all our jobs and and and we'll be stuck without jobs and it'll be no the whole point of the robots and automation is it increases abundance for everyone what is important is to make sure that everyone can share in those resources in that new abundance yeah and i mean you know it's i mean you're intersecting so many issues and it remains it remains to be seen uh generally how this will play out i mean if everyone was uh you know um uh sister teresa or mother teresa sister teresa is my teacher from catholic school uh mother teresa was a sister at some point right yeah uh mother teresa yeah i'm sure that could probably work but you you know not you cannot not everyone thinks that way or will think that way yeah some people still have very much have a and it's tricky because the people are like ah don't don't use government tax money for this they have a point which is because it will be wasted right the assumption is because it won't work it'll be wasted it'll be mismanaged and you don't want that that is the opposite of what you want uh that doesn't mean the government isn't the right way to do it it just means you have to make sure that it's done right somehow or maybe there's another way to ensure that it's done right that's a public private partnership uh i don't know i'm i'm very attracted to the idea of basic income i have yet to see the evidence that says it will work and that's that's the tricky part of it there's some evidence says it will there's some evidence says it doesn't uh and you can come up with a lot of common sense reasons why it would or would not work but until we actually see some it working somewhere i'm i'm not going to get too enthusiastic about it and maybe maybe it might not just be basic income is not just a straight monetary transfer kind of thing i mean you know colonial expansion worked for for for one good reason there were a surplus of people yeah right it's like hey not doing anything will cost you more yes no i'm not saying i know i know i'm just saying that to the audience not to you well uh yeah when basic yes and no i mean it's it's the same argument what oh i'm sorry i'm talking to the chat room again jpeg gpeg his question or her question is wouldn't basic income devalue the dollar less incentive to work and lower wages there is there there is evidence that it doesn't give you less incentive to work that it's because it's only just enough to feed and clothe you that people still want to find work so yeah that's one of those like well common sense says if i'm making some money but if you have it at the right level you still want to work because you want a better life and and so it doesn't disincentive work but then there's some other evidence that says yeah but for a certain section of the population they actually it it does stop them from continuing to work so there may be something to that devil's advocate in me would say and this is the jerky kind of a holy part of me would say maybe maybe the premise of the the whole thing is wrong does everyone need to be brought on board does it you know at what point do you cut your losses what are you saying there's let people die i don't quite understand perhaps i don't know it's it's not so much but it's it's uh um we're working on the we're in this is probably east meets west thing but we're working on the assumption that everyone needs to be brought on board everyone needs to be safe i don't know what you mean by brought on board like as as part of society everyone should be taking care of what if you don't believe that oh you mean like just let let people starve yes fall by the wayside yeah i don't think that's a good i don't think that's a good plan i disagree with that plan i think that's the whole point of having a civilization is that you don't let that happen i believe in universal human rights maybe what do you mean we shall see i'm saying what i believe in that's not a we shall see situation i know i mean the jerk we shall see as i stroke my non-existent beard i mean honestly uh if you don't believe that everyone has a right to you know a certain level of existence then you just go out and kill everyone right isn't that that'll solve a problem that's the linden marush plan well that was kind of the that was kind of the the british plan for the longest time join the military yeah no i think that's horrible i think that's unconscionable unconscionable there are very few things i would condemn that would be a thing i would condemn man you brought us to a dark place roger how do they bring us to a dark place you talked you said like maybe maybe people should just die you got all ebony's or scrooge if they should die they better do it and decrease the surplus population no i don't think that's the solution i don't think i don't believe you think that's the solution but i just said i'm playing devil no i know that's that you really were advocating for the devil with that one the extremist the pull pot solution extremist beef extremist beef like is that like really like sour and and spicy tasting beef jerky yeah maybe like the the super spicy slim gyms having to a slim gym that's just motor oil hey so i'm going to talk about this more on monday but monday is episode three thousand which gets people really excited right like oh the three thousandth episode it's not actually the three thousandth episode of daily technician uh if many of you already know this but when we started daily technician derrick kitchen suggested he's like what if instead of starting with episode one you combine the number of episodes you did at buzz out loud with the number of episodes you did at tech news today and then add one and that's the number of the first episode of daily tech news show so that's what i did it isn't even an accurate estimate of the number of daily news shows that i've done because there were several tech news today's and buzz out louds that are counted in that number that i wasn't on because i was on vacation or out sick or whatever but it's you know people like round numbers so on monday we will note that it is at the episode three thousand not the three thousandth episode though kind of a fine line to draw a fine line like fine wine well thanks everybody for watching and listening we will be back for episode three thousand maybe we can get um like all the mystery science theater people to come bye


Welcome to another week of Watch It Weekly Wednesday. I'm Aubrey, part of the Stampin' Jill creative team, and today I wanted to share with you a fun card layout idea that's a little different and a little bit fun. So we're going to start with a piece of cardstock. This is four and a quarter by 11.  Just like this, okay? So let me grab out my Stampin' Trimmer and I wanna show you where to score this for our card. It's very simple. We're gonna score it right in half at five and a half. And then we're also going to score it at four and a quarter. Just like that, okay? And then we'll fold it. I like to call this layout idea an album fold card because what we're going to do it's folded in half. We're gonna fold this other part back to, give it a nice score. And what we're gonna do is adhere down this little piece. So then when you open the card, it opens kind of like a photo book album would open. And then you have just this nice square piece that we're gonna have our card. So I'm gonna adhere this. I'm just using Stampin' Jill. You could also use Stampin' Jill plus that would keep it down really well. Just like that, okay? Super simple.  Four by four is super nice because you can get exact measurements out of a 12 by 12 piece. So you can get nine pieces of four by four. And this is going to adhere down just right here on this square.  And this is what the layout of my card is gonna look like. So let's adhere that all together.  And then you just get to add all your fun details. So let me show you a few cards that I've made using this very simple card layout pattern. So with that exact one, you have this, wishing you everything wonderful. So I used this lovely in linen paper, designer series paper. I added some of the sequins dies on there. And then a cute saying, wishing you everything wonderful because you totally deserve it. So cute. Here I have one with the Yeti. This one's so cute. Getting ready for winter. So that one I have opening upward. You can see here we have a butterfly one with that super cute butterfly paper. Love it. Here's our gnome. You gnome me so well. It just opens like that. Masculine best dad award. When you have a really nice basic layout like this, it's so nice to recreate it using all the different product you own. You can use this layout with any suite, so much fun. If you go visit us on our blog at stampandjill.com, you can go and see all the measurements for these cards and some still shots. If you have any questions, make sure to email us at sudemonstrator at gmail.com. Thanks so much for watching. We'll see you next week for another Watch It Weekly Wednesday.