Live. Hi. Come on guys. We're live. Hello. We're live Hello, everybody, you know what I'm getting into chat room. You should I'm going to I'm in our discord too You know, I've never actually used it. No one does Barely people barely even know we have it, but it's integrated into patreon So anybody on patreon can get into it Folks in our Dts slack talk about it. Yeah, that's there and then I've kind of noticed other people talking about it And I probably just didn't it didn't register. It's a test because Slack you have to use the API to integrate and it's wonky discord is integrated right into patreon. So You got it, but they did it after we already had a very robust slack community. So and one sure years So I decided to just kick everyone out of slack Charge them all 35. No, it's only 35 cents. It's fine To switch. No one will care. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Okay. We're just making light of a situation that hopefully a lot of you Feel better about already. Yes We're gonna talk about that on the show, too. Yeah, and Not by way of apology, but just you know by way of history Sarah had the idea of letting patreon know they are not alone in Announcing policies that are hugely unpopular and have to backtrack on right. Yeah, it's in fact It was kind of fun doing a little research Once we decided like this guy, you know, it's kind of a good little discussion topic. I was like How do I whittle it down to just a few? Yeah. Yeah All right, I am ready if you guys are ready. I'm ready ready here. Oh we Go take it away hometown rival What's that? You want to give back some value for the value you get on a daily tech news show? No problem. Just head to daily tech news show comm slash the port to find out how This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday December 13th 2017 from DTS headquarters in Los Angeles on Tom Merritt and from studio Feline at the beach. I'm Sarah Lane And Aaron Fested Valley of Salt Lake City of Scott Johnson wait Aaron's best Fested with air, but we have this thing called the inversion and imagine like most of the year going along with clear skies and beautiful Okay, and then for like, I don't know two months of the winter. It's like Beijing at the worst possible time So your air is infested. You're not infested with air. I got you There's plenty of air to go around however their current air. I'm breathing Not the air you wanted. How's the air up there Roger Chang our producer My air is fine for Southern, California. You are the air a parrot Yeah, we've had some air issues around here as well. They seem to be getting better though Yeah Well, we are gonna talk a little bit about the changes in the patreon fees and generally about how tech companies react when they make Big publicly unpopular decisions like that, but let's start with a few tech things you should know In a blog post titled we messed up We're sorry and we're not rolling out the fees change patreon announced It would not change its fee structure to charge patrons instead of creators Jack Connie wrote We still have to fix the problems that those changes addressed But we're going to fix them in a different way get more on that here in a bit support for Google Assistant is coming To phones running Android 5.0 lollipop and at tablets running Android 6.0 marshmallow and newer Because the app is not integrated into the launcher. You'll have to launch the app before you can ask any questions Amazon is expanding its same-day delivery and one-day shipping services for prime members from 5,000 to 8,000 markets across the US just in time for the holiday rush Eligible orders over $35 are now delivered for free seven days a week for prime members This of course is in the new areas if you're not a prime member You can pay $8.99 for that same-day delivery plus 99 cents per item So unless you have many many items might be worth it The people in charge of the Mariah botnet are apparently pleading guilty and wired has a story up that I haven't had a chance to parse So hopefully we'll talk about it on tomorrow's show that they started the Mariah botnet as a way to help them at Minecraft So that's gonna be interesting to dig into also breaking right before the show attorneys general from 18 states Signed a letter asking the FCC to delay its vote on changing open net internet guidelines That's supposed to happen tomorrow Well a fraud investigation is conducted the attorneys general want to investigate claims that consumer identities were used to post false Comments on the guidelines during its feedback period. I Don't expect there to be a delay, but pressure is mounting. All right, let's get into some more top stories kick us off Scott. All right. Well police in the Netherlands I've stopped using a team of eagles to take down rogue drones because it's more expensive and complicated than they thought Gosh, who could imagine the things that need to take down your drones need to be fed cared for and trained and all of that Dutch police bought four C eagle chicks after completing their trials last year But we'll move the Eagles to a shelter. Meanwhile, the US Air Force is researching Falcons to develop defense systems against drones man, it's This was a hot topic in our subreddit this morning And you know the sort of like ha ha eagles that take down drones thing aside Obviously horses and and and dogs are a big part of law enforcement the idea that an eagle could successfully Take down a rogue drone. Maybe it's not supposed to be flying where it's flying or there's some other nefarious purpose that that Law enforcement has identified very cool on its face value But there's a lot of Complications here. I mean is that cool? Is that right?  I mean, those are like, you know Predators with big claws talons Falcons though are often trained for hunts, right? So yeah I get where the idea comes from. Maybe they should have used Falcons like the US Air Force is using But maybe maybe eagles could have been trained. It looked like maybe they could But I also don't want to be too hard on them because it's like, hey It looked like it would work and then they tried it They responsibly trained the eagles and decided not to use them before say just kind of forcing it through and Sticking it out there. It sounds like, you know, there was a animal rights groups There they were vocal about their opposition to this but it also the article referenced a falconer Who said listen if these birds are trained for something very specific, let's say, you know, they miss a drone They get frustrated or they get confused You know, it's just a small child She's kind of there's some worst-case scenario stuff that probably couldn't be ignored. Yeah But I do like the thing I like on the face of the story and the reason Today was I like the idea. Oh Sorry, that was John Ashcroft when you know, we were talking about eagles Just saying but I do I do love the idea that we are reverting back to more Let's call them old-school ways of dealing with things like this by training animals to take down technology It does feel like a weird reversal of humanity, but I find that really intriguing So we'll see is the future going to be trained birds in the same way that we have trained dogs Listen if out drugs or guns and things like that. Who knows Well pigeon seemed to be doing well for a lot of people on rooftop, so I don't know T-Mobile says it will acquire layer 3 TV Which is a Denver, Colorado based television technology company and plans to launch its own TV service Next year as part of its latest uncarrier initiative in a video explaining the announcement CEO John Legere Who's outspoken in general to say the least says he's ready to compete with cable companies like Comcast Time Warner Charter Frontier and Fox This follows T-Mobile's binge on initiative for unlimited mobile video streaming and its incorporation of Netflix subscriptions Into its T-Mobile one family plans. Yeah, so layer 3 is interesting They sell a box that doesn't need a cable jack connects to Wi-Fi Customers can create separate profiles for each member of the family So I'm curious if this is going to be a bridge situation Where you use like the T-Mobile network to connect to a box rather than just being delivered over the internet Which would be kind of disappointing to me if however, they just say No, this is just an internet service. It's gonna be competing with PlayStation View sling TV Hulu live TV YouTube TV and We're gonna let you pick channels We're gonna we're gonna let you you know be even easier than these slim bundles have been up till now I mean T-Mobile is famous for being able to pull off very customer-friendly things that other companies won't so Problem is they have to get the TV channels on board to do it It also jives with the idea that they're one of the last remaining Folks in mobile who aren't pushing some sort of TV initiative or aren't pushing some sort of extra service It's true ATG Verizon both are Sprint isn't as far as Not but let's not call them major today. Oh poor Sprint. Come on. I got their shade They're already down. They're only number four. I Just I don't know if everybody watched the video, but I I did like not only did leisure say okay These are the companies that you know, we're kind of going after which Whether or not it's hyperbole does make it seem like yeah We want to compete with the Time Warner's the Comcast that you know the big companies But he says something along the lines of like and we all know that these guys are the worst I mean he's able to get away with this stuff, so we'll see I'm very very curious Yeah Synaptics announced it has entered mass production for its first optical in display fingerprint sensor called clear ID Synaptics first announced the FS 9100 optical fingerprint sensor a year ago before it had the snappy name clear ID back then It was just a proof of technology So it's taken them Exactly a year to get to the point of announcing that yes This can be manufactured and used in phones both Samsung and Apple reportedly had to change tactics on their latest phones Because they wanted to use this and it wasn't ready yet Synaptics says it's going into production with a top five OEM So here you go folks here the top five OEMs Apple Samsung Huawei Company behind oppo and vivo and Xiaomi Place your bets Here's my bet for Apple next year I think that the next iteration of what is the iPhone 10 today will be their new mainline phone and it will feature not only Improved facial recognition for face ID, but they will then go and if you'd rather you just touch the screen And I think that's going to be their thing moving forward. So at least for Apple I think this is going to be a thing in their phone So okay, so just to sorry keep on Apple for a second So a lot of people are sort of like why do we need face ID touch ID work just fine so face ID is like Be it's kind of exists because the the this this Optical in display fingerprint sensor wasn't actually ready, which is what it should have been the whole time And so next year it's as if the people have spoken and we get back what we wanted But that's not really what's going on Well, the the rumor was that they wanted to have face ID and this clear ID That has the fingerprint sensor in the screen so they could get rid of the bezels and and Both Samsung and and Apple decided to just not deal with that Samsung move the fingerprint sensor Apple had face ID, so they just decided to go a whole hog on that. Yeah, I don't think either one of them do it I think it's Xiaomi.  So cut us a deal Well, the next story lends itself a little bit to Apple stain course for the face ID Apple announced its second investment from its one billion dollar advanced manufacturing fund that it put together committing 390 million to Finisar company that makes laser chips using the iPhone 10 and air pods Finisar will develop a 700,000 square foot manufacturing plant in Sherman, Texas put for a high-tech facility developing VC SEL which stands for vertical cavity surface emitting laser chips that allow depth and proximity sensing Which would help? Technologies like face ID or an emoji or AR kits and all the stuff that AR kit can can can help develop as well The new facility is planned to open in the second half of next year So I think this is another indication that Apple is all in on face ID They they would have put clear ID in if it had worked it didn't they're not gonna look back They're gonna keep putting money into this because the other thing they put money into was corning for for gorilla glass And and didn't see them give any to synaptics yet. Maybe who knows hmm Well engineers at British ISP Andrews and Arnold say they successfully Successfully made a broadband connection work over two meters of wait for it wet string Finally, which reach speeds of 3.5 megabits per or megabytes per or sorry acting as a wave guide to Transmit an electromagnetic wave the company says it doesn't have a commercial use for this He's not yet and the experiment was purely for fun, but it does show how adaptive ADSL Is when it comes to faulty lines with bad or disconnective joints still providing some level of broadband service Absolutely love this story. I want I want to have at least part of my network running on a little piece of wet string I know it like I love I love and this is a Anderson Arnold. I had not heard of this ISP I think it's pretty small over in the UK But I love how the company is like we don't know what this would be good for you know We put some string and some salt water and it works. Yeah salt waters I want to become something that we can somehow use in a pinch. Yeah, I I mean I Love that they're like this isn't good for anything All we wanted to do is show like DSL is pretty crazy and and how it can work because it's a wave guide You just have to have something that's marginally conductive So so what a string and and boom you got yourself a 3.5 megabits per second connection Not a terribly fast connection mind you given today's you know needs 25 megabits per second is considered broadband in the US and a lot of people think that's slow, but The fact that it worked at all is pretty crazy And of course it brings up the the immediately brought up to me the joke of you know A string between two cups for your internet connection could actually work. Yeah It's a little Matt Damon trying to get off Mars kind of quality to it, which I like a lot. Yeah Oh, totally right. He could have made his own internet connection out of a rope. It's what's yeah He didn't have me just what you just kind of keep throwing it to your reach earth Yeah, you gotta you gotta keep it wet. That's the problem. Well, it's wet. It'll it'll weigh more. So it's probably fine Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to daily tech headlines at daily tech headlines.com We have all these stories and more in a brief easy to listen to format to keep you Unformed every day not unformed informed daily tech headlines.com available as a podcast on the amazon echo as a flash briefing On the anchor app as one you can like skip through the stories as you go and do little hand claps and on the google home Thanks to anchor. It's all there daily tech headlines.com so What is that that's not what I was expecting to play It was great though. It was you know, that was lady tron burning up Which apparently is the next thing in the playlist after john ascroft. Uh, what I wanted to play was this There we go. That's better So let's start before we get into the examples and sarah had a great idea And we're going to get into this of other companies who have had about faces Let's talk about patreons maya culpa. Uh, and how you guys feel about it I I personally we talked about it a bit in the pre show that goes out to the patreons But I personally feel this is the right thing to do. Do I wish they hadn't announced this change at all? Well, of course Yes, the right thing to do the best thing to do for me would have been never have this idea in the first place but I do believe them When they say they thought this was going to be fine and it wasn't going to get people upset and so I'm going to judge them by how they react when they make a mistake Not that they make a mistake people make mistakes companies make mistakes It's all about what they do and what they're doing is listening and saying, you know what? Okay, we hear you this doesn't work for all of you So we're not going to do it until we figure out not only how to fix the thing we wanted to fix with this But not mess stuff up for the rest of you and I think that's good Yeah, Tom you had mentioned in the pre show that it's not as if patreon just sprung it on everybody There was there was testing that the company had done internally. They had reached out to at least a few curators that that I know and I just think that the the whole idea of The creator ultimately benefiting from the change which was that was the spin of this of the of this change from the company side The fact that so many creators were like but my patrons are upset they're leaving This is not helping me and it's not going to help me. I want to eat the fees I at least want the option To be able to say nah, thank you, but no, thank you I don't think the company anticipated such a backlash and It is nice that they're listening to the people who make the whole operation work anyway Yeah, I I mean, I've been all over the place on this. I kind of in the initial goings on felt like Well, obviously they've had some discussion and talking to a few other people to run patreon patreons including tom It was clear that they'd had discussions with people about They were working on some new ways of of dealing with you know How to how to balance these books and make this stuff work and it all made sense to me The problem is the impression to the public and the the impression to actual patrons Was not that it was well planned out that it was not thought about before or discussed that it just was sort of launched On everybody without any kind of warning and impressions are everything So despite the fact that I think they were they were probably Working very hard internally to to think of these things There were some definite failures along the way Uh to make it so that this would have either either been more understood or we could have had more transparency as to why they were doing it Uh or at the very least You know let the patrons themselves in on it a little bit because they were a bit blindsided And that reaction turned into a bit of a snowball Well, I don't know how you let them in without telling them and it was when they told them that they felt Upset so um, you know, I mean, I guess you could say like hey, we're thinking about doing this to everyone What do you think that that's that's the different? I guess that's the the thing that they should have done They could have done that and I agree with you that that's not a thing you would normally see a company do I guess where i'm at with this whole thing is i'm with you and that i'm glad that they've rolled it back I prefer it the way it was and I prefer them to have other ideas that aren't putting the the onus on the on the patrons I'd rather we be the reason that the patrons are there and if they want to pay a dollar they pay a dollar Yeah, make it easy and make it easy What they didn't account for and this is the part I don't understand and and and and hopefully lessons have been learned but The backlash and the freak out and the upsetness and all this stuff that happened in 2017 is not a shock And they I think should have or could have anticipated that a little bit better to the point that the brand really got Besmirched for a good week. Yeah to the point that it was hard to talk about them in public Without feeling like you had to be apologetic or whatever and I think that that's probably the thing That got under the skin the most over the weekend and made them realize we've made a mistake here Uh, and I and I applaud them for coming to the point that they came to today But I really and maybe there's not a way to do that Maybe you know just maybe like lots of business models out there There's things that have to be tweaked down the road to make profitability happen to make investors happy And because of those realities, you've got to do stuff and sometimes that stuff is weird and different and hard I don't know what else they're going to do or could have done in this case So I don't pretend to be preaching to them in that regard I just I think it's a little short-sighted not to have expected the backlash that they got Yeah, well, I I you know, yes It certainly is Obvious now that they should have expected that because it happened I I don't know If I was asked, uh, you know last two weeks ago What I would have said I would have said you need to be prepared For a backlash. What are you going to do about it? Because there's always a backlash with the change, right? but but I don't think they would have announced it if they thought it was going to be this bad They they just got caught out. So so then what do you do? Yes? Be more careful learn from your mistakes, you know, if this sort of thing continues And this becomes a pattern of behavior then we're in ea territory You know, then then it's like, okay, you guys don't get a pass for every one of these But I feel like patreon has been pretty good As far as this stuff goes so I'm willing to to continue to work with them because of that it's also Way easier to say after the fact that they should have done something Then it is to be the person advising them ahead of time And so that's where I I do agree with you scott that they should have been more representative in who they talked to They should have tried this out maybe with a different set of patrons Apparently what they did ahead of time Didn't represent all of us out here because they got a very different reaction than they expected So there you go something something to learn from there's certainly not the first company To announce something they thought was great and be met with howls of derision from the internet Yeah, that's true one that we didn't actually talk about Before this episode or put in any of our research. I just wanted to at least mention it Because it just hit me you guys you guys remember probably pretty well when netflix was going to spin off Uh their disc service Into something called quickster. Yeah, that's on line 31 of the rundown. Yeah. Oh there it is right there Yes, scott jeez. Sorry. Sorry. You're right. It's right there. I somehow I skipped past that field that is a crazy Crazy blip in the history of netflix and honestly, I'm not sure it would have spelled their end or their failure Or anything like that, but it definitely would have changed the the roadmap a little It's hard to believe that was even the same company to be honest It's it was a spectacular Mistep this was back in 2011. I remember this because we covered it extensively on tnt The funny thing was it didn't just start with netflix saying hey We thought of something called quickster and the public didn't like it and they reverted It started with an email that netflix subscribers got Personal email from ceo read hastings apologizing for a fee increase That you know the community had railed against like the fee increases too much. It makes no sense But you know it was mad at the company and he's saying okay. Okay. Here's our solution We're going to spin off this whole other movie section called called quickster And that's going to help kind of separate the you know tv shows that you're used to getting and and the netflix that you know In love with with with more content that we actually want because we want to grow our network Well, that didn't work out either And the whole thing Within well, I don't know A month I don't think it was any more than that. Oh, yeah That was pretty quick entirely and netflix has has grown to become much more profitable Healthy company since so I keep waiting for for for them to start something called quickster You know they own the name still so it's gotta gotta be good for something It seems like a it seems like a name to have for something I don't know maybe but if people don't understand what they were gonna do is split the dvd business away from the streaming business And they were gonna they were gonna say look the dvd business is called quickster It's a whole separate thing And then the streaming business is called netflix And honestly, it's what they have right now. They have dvd business that's separate you pay separately for the dvds rentals if you still do it all And you've got netflix. I think it was a way to Sort of distance the brand and get people to think of netflix's streaming Maybe even package up the dvd business for sale at some point As I wound down In fact, the matter is nobody remembers that netflix does dvds anymore. Anyway, they didn't need to do that But in 2011 that was still a way that a lot of people use netflix So you can see you can see where in a board room somewhere, you know in a conference room This made a lot of sense because netflix is like our five-year plan is pretty, you know We've got to figure out how to make netflix more of that streaming model But you know still have some sort of a product for our legacy users It just doesn't always come across that way Also, why quickster? I mean was that just the only domain name they had in house that are they already owned? I never understood how that played in quickster with all the vowels, too Yeah, we're gonna remember they were gonna not only Separate it but they were gonna expand it into video game rentals So they were gonna have at the time 360. Oh, right. Yeah So you could get dvds because y'all could also rent the latest 360 titles and get madden in the mail and And they were kind of gonna do that whole game Uh game fly route. I guess that's the name of the other one And they and they pulled all that like none of that happened at all. They kept the dvd thing I still maybe they were planning to transition this into a game streaming service at some point He just wanted a different name for that. Well, that would have been right around the time and I forgot the name Yeah Go guy Kai or yeah. Yeah. Also. I also think one of the, you know, most most memorable Gaffes by a company and this is United Airlines is not a tech company But the fact that the world saw To officers drag a man off of united flight that was overbooked because he just wasn't going to leave his seat. Otherwise Caused outrage that never would have happened Unless, you know, he happened to be on that flight just because of how information is shared these days United didn't exactly apologize and uh, that took about six months I think for the two officers to be relieved of their duties and the federal government said that they weren't going to find the company either but That's a really good example of something where it probably would have just died down Except that the public got wind of it and because of all of our sharing options now It grew into something really massive. Yeah, that's the trick, right? Like we live in a time where it doesn't matter what you do 100 years ago a company like Nike or whoever's making shoes Then could have absolutely screwed up every left shoe sold for the last year And it would have made some noise. It would have been in some newspaper It would have been some consumer outrage, but it would be nothing like today like today. We would tear them apart For not responding, especially they didn't do anything about it. So you had to have a teapot dome scandal if you really wanted to get people angry Uh, I was thinking about apple and antenna gate where everyone said hey When I hold it like this. Yeah, it the the signal goes down and apple responded like man, you're holding it wrong Uh, that's not a good reaction And eventually they had to sort of begrudgingly have Steve Jobs come out and like here have a bumper free Stop your whining. Yeah And that's about as good as you were ever going to get from Steve Jobs. Yeah I mean, it's not literally what he said, but it felt like that that's that's how his attitude was I truly believe yeah, I know that that's you know, it's become a joke. You're holding it wrong Like, you know, you know, you're not holding your phone, but it's like I truly believe that he was like We'll just hold it right I Was the kind of person he was on that I think they were 100% with like the idea that well Who's holding it weird like this? Anyway, they should just hold it this way and it's not a problem Like I can probably see it. Yeah, there's also uh xbox one games would uh would require the internet Every 24 hours to play offline Uh games on disc could be lent resold given away and rent could not be lent resold or give it away or rented They were going to try to get ready to use games Downloaded games weren't going to work without an internet connection So they they backtracked on all of that stuff within weeks Yeah, the announcement 83. There was a lot more too to that. There was a huge Well, what a mistake that was when they got up and announced this thing at the same e3 that sony was announcing what they were doing at the ps4 They announced all of those restrictions all of those changes all those things They were also really really pushing the idea that this was finally the entertainment box in the living room Not just a video game console which struck gamers in kind of a weird way The online all the time stuff was huge the mandatory connect Stuff had to be there and all sorts of weird operating system layer of windows layer of xbox os stuff Like all of that stuff fell flat on the ears of their core audience and they are still paying for that And they've they've turned it around. It's a video game box with a focus on that. There is no connect anymore They don't have any of those restrictions They just it's a combination of bad timing And a little bit of deafness to what their audience really wanted and here we are today with them at a 40 or so million console deficit or something to that effect But thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com Vote in our facebook group vote Comment in our i mean i guess that we do polls sometimes But you can do more than just vote in our facebook group at facebook.com slash groups Slash daily tech news show let's check the mailbag sarah Paul writes in from what he says is substantially snowing michigan Hope you're staying warm paul Tom sarah and the rest of the podcast and guild founding members scott, of course as well I was listening to tuesday's discussion and it made me think of one of the things that drives me the most crazy about social media And that is outrage fatigue though sometimes it Leans political i'm constantly having to hide posts on my feeds about how this or that issue is Going to ruin the world ruin the internet ruin america ruin society to the gray Where i mostly just ignore these posts that are rants or claims of outrage or indignation If everything is the worst thing ever Then nothing is the worst thing ever so for me outrage weakens the point the original poster is making all together Hmm I I agree with him. Here's the problem though Like when people are upset about a thing and they now have this new Mechan relatively new mechanism to express that outrage They are they are truly outraged about that thing the problem is you're following Let's say 300 people who all have the potential to be outraged about 300 separate things And that's the problem as we all start to sort of have an overwhelming numbers problem Where it seems like everybody's complaining and once in a while we're all in unison on something something terrible has happened And now we all feel like we got a we all got a chip in I think paul you know paul's focusing on uh got outrage And and negative stuff, but this totally goes the other way as well. I mean if I see one more You know video get passed around. It's like this is the most amazing basketball.  Yeah, it's it's it's that kind of like Everything is so exaggerated. Yeah, you just stop Believing it that's paul's point here is When you constantly are saying this is the worst or this is the best I don't believe it anymore. I you know, I like what he says is like the article that catches my eye these days is Don't panic. Here's how we can fix it Right. Yeah, like oh, well, that's weird nobody says that what's that about and that I was gonna ask what we thought the solution is And maybe that's the solution. I don't panic is the new clickbait. Yeah, there you go I mean there are five reasonable things you can do you'll believe them Sure Click through to the slideshow Right explaining them Thank you to scott johnson as always with us on wednesdays on dtns scott. What is going on at frog pants and elsewhere? Uh, well, uh, man too many things this weekend.  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I want to say the other guy Ah, so he admitted it. Yes. He admitted it. I kind of admitted it on his show too Uh, I take all sorts of credit for stuff that's probably dubious So I'm I have no room to poke holes in his but he did kind of play it both ways there So he could take credit either way That's a little that's a little uh I'll have some fun with that. It's very political of him. I think actually Well, there's politics. There's politics and there's politics, but there's only one show that talks about all three. That's right That's right. All right. Well, does that show talk about titles? No, because I'm about to Do drones dream of electric falcons?  Now we're gonna do over the wet. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha saltwater, uh saltwater Um, shoot. What's it called? Just pick up a can of chef. Boyardy. There's enough salt in there. I guarantee Oh, what's the noodle called the long the long spaghetti spaghetti would actually make more sense Linguiney. Thank you. That's what I'm going to go to meters. Here's the thing though Uh, do a noodle you get a gigabit with noodles instead of the other thing Linguiney net gotta really salt up the that pasta Yeah, you're gonna have to add some pretty salty, uh sauce, but that is the sauce is your conductor top drama And it would all have to be dry because if it's dripping the sausage is drip off marinara net. Oh my god That actually sounds like you're suiting him in the second life Both of them hit the top marinara net Oh That's the new that's you know, if you ever want to kind of go take it to the stage. Yeah That seems like a my my my vaudevillian cooking show tom marinara You take your dance and karaoke routine Yeah Tom marinara singing about spaghetti What with arpanet you could do but I can't think of Be something for that arpa Patriots or patriots is at the top leading by three which one do you like roger? I want to hear you versus the social media butterfly effect It's a little long Right, we can consider it Patreon pulls a quickster. Is that a little too inside? It isn't after you've seen the show I don't know about during What about you, uh, uh, ms. Lane? I don't know. I I'm so sort of pleased with the patreon news today. I hate to kind of like Beat it over with the It's also like patreon didn't pull a quickster, you know, no, it's not even I get it, but that's how about inter wet How about that the wet inter wet broad band inter wet Broad band inter wet I'm just trying to think if there's anything else we could squeeze into broadband, but Yeah Quality broadband inter wet I think that's good My vote is inter wet or some combination of what's a what's it called when you have the different The gauge of a of a rope Gauge oh thickness. I don't know rope terms the twine turns Gauge, right Threads the numbers there's something with the twines. Yeah Hold on. Hold on thickness of rope definition Gourd cord thick cord toward the strands Broad strand internet Strand String theory internet, that's not what I was going for but that works even better Barbra Streisand Your internet's hanging by a string I've got the net on a string. So what did you pick broad strand inter wet get it It's perfect If there's anything that's gonna make me say what's that episode about it's broad string Oh, you know actually now that you say that I was thinking about doing, uh, you know five reasonable things you can do You'll believe all five That's good. I love it. No one loves that Uh, broad strand internet wet is way better It's just just weird enough Five reasonable things you can do right now that won't surprise you So scott when when the weather gets weird, uh in your neck of the woods the the Air thing Is it like no burn days because like, you know, it's cold, right? People want to like build fires and that sort of stuff yeah, I mean It's a cozy. I mean, so we have this air quality thing because of the inversion. It's the way our valley is It's like a big bowl Yeah And so When the when there's cold air or warm air on top cold air down low it keeps it in it's a normal inversion thing LA has the same situation actually. Yeah, it's why you get small places do dember has this a lot of places Especially in the brockies have it the problem is Most years it's not so bad. It's kind of one or two days and a good snowstorm. There's it all out Just gone. Yeah We just haven't had that part of it. So what we have is this very frosty foggy Low cloud. Yeah misty thing. It all it all looks like a like a real scary movie outside in the morning Um, everyone I take it's like truly fog Yeah, yeah, I don't know if anyone's ever seen the video game silent hill, but it's just like that And uh, some of our listeners. I know I played it. But anyway, uh, so it's not bad It's just this year is really bad and then they every morning on the news It's like air quality conditions today green or yellow or Right, right. Yeah, it's just something that everyone talks about like how about this air quality? It's our yeah, it's kind of our thing and the rest of the year like in the summer spring fall Doesn't exist. Just beautiful clear all the time awesome But in the winter we all get it's like we get all of our it's like What's it like? It's like Some cities have this all year round just because of general pollution We just have it all concentrated into these huge amounts during this one or two months. It's So we're dreaming of a smog Christmas We want to snow a snowstorm or a good wind and then we'll be good for weeks and then Then we'll come back again. Yeah, um, there'll be something else. I remember when I used to live in san jose, uh, which is Not as big as the LA basin, but it's similar There were there were certain days in the winter where it was like You couldn't even really see the mountains that weren't that far on on the horizon And it was the first time where I was like this is Really bad, you know, I'm supposed to see that stuff. I can't see anything You know, and it's kind of brown now in LA. I'm like just another day No, in LA. It's the opposite like the day you can see the mountains. You're like, whoa, this is crazy There were mountains over there. Yeah, exactly I remember the uh, when I was moving in to this place There was a day where you could just you could see the mountains and they were covered with snow And yeah, and Eileen and I you know, we're like, oh, that's pretty because we didn't live here yet And all the angel eaters are like, oh, look at that. That's amazing. Wow We're like is what is it not always there like what's up? Nope, it's not it's it's weird though I I've and I agree. It's really cool looking because the you know, the elevation is so high It's just hard to kind of gauge that from here So it's like 75 degrees people are in shorts and you're like, well, there's no in the mountains. Yeah Of course, it was 32 degrees of that too. There was a weird cold snow I don't know. It's been cold here the last few nights. I've been yeah, it's been getting getting chilly at night for sure Yeah, fifties. I mean It's not real for people who have real cold, you know, it actually Friend of mine is visiting from DC in a couple of weeks and she's like Okay, so like how cold is cold Yeah, and I'm like, well, like, I don't know. Do you have like a light coat and she's like, that's not even don't even talk Like you can't wear shorts. It's cold. Oh, no. No, I wear shorts regardless Down I mean in venice where it's like obviously a lot of people are still going to the beach um, even it's I mean, it's it's shorts and Tank top weather for a lot of people unless unless the weather is like 58 or lower. I'll be in shorts You just like them Right, I prefer not to wear shorts. I'm wearing me too. I have to be So hot that I have no other choice. My doctor prescribed me to wear shorts Because she's getting enough vitamin D. My my short stone bunch up the same way my pants do I love it. I'm wearing shorts Yeah See, I I I'm with you roger shorts are fine But like in order for me to be really comfortable in shorts.  We pants that I feel Where it's it's they're basically pants. I mean, I feel it's unseemly to show my legs I I think it's uh, I think it's a sign of virility to show my legs. So That's why I think it's unseemly Hey patrons, you guys still there By now you are a special group. You really care It's funny I'm good. I'm good with shorts. I just feel like if I'm gonna wear shorts I might as well just wear a dress and then there's less material.   I'm a layered kind of guy not in a Steve Bannon sort of way, but in like a normal way Maybe like he he only wears one outfit How does he yeah, does he wear multiple shirts? Yeah, it's like four layers deep. It's smart. He's actually talk about it Like why he does it? I always thought it was just because he slept in everything and then just over time You just kind of slowly reveal But I'm not gonna say on the show what I think Um anything else you want to Leave with our Viewers before I I turn off the live. Thank you for supporting us Thank you for sticking with us. Thank you those of you who are like needed to make my voice known But now I'm back Uh, and even the people who just switched to PayPal because they're like, you know, it's just a better choice for me Y'all are great. Anyway, you can support the show is awesome. So thank you. Thank you. 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Let's do a quick review of section 5.2 from Active Calculus on the second fundamental theorem of calculus. First recall the first fundamental theorem of calculus, which tells us that if f is a continuous function on the integral from a to b and capital F is an antiderivative of little f, then the definite integral from a to b of little f is capital F of b minus capital F of a. The first fundamental theorem in other words tells us that we can compute the exact value of a definite integral of a function by first finding an antiderivative of that function, and then simply finding the difference between the antiderivative evaluated at the upper limit of integration and the antiderivative evaluated at the lower limit of integration. So in addition to being practically important because it tells us a way of computing an integral, the first fundamental theorem is conceptually important because it formalizes the notion that derivatives and integrals are related and in fact they are inverse operations in some sense. An integral can be thought of as an anti-differentiation problem, which is the opposite of differentiating. The second fundamental theorem of calculus looks at this connection from another point of view. It says that if f is a continuous function and c is any constant, then if you look at the function a of x, which is defined to be the integral from c to x of f of t dt, then the derivative of this function is f of x. This is a function that's defined as an integral and the independent variable is x, not t. So as x increases, there is an area that's being swept out between the graph of f and the horizontal axis, and a of x is an area function that measures this area as x changes. One thing the second fundamental theorem says is that the rate at which this area is being accumulated as x changes, that is, that's the derivative of the area function, is precisely f, the function that you're integrating. So here again, derivatives and integrals are seen to be inverses of each other in the sense that the derivative undoes the integral to reveal the function that's inside. Another thing the second fundamental theorem says is that continuous functions on closed intervals always have anti-derivatives because that's what this area function defined as an integral is. It's an anti-derivative for f because it's derivative equals f. So it establishes the existence of anti-derivatives for continuous functions under the right conditions. The first and second fundamental theorems are saying the same thing from different viewpoints, namely that integration and differentiation are inverse processes, the precise nature of that relationship being made rigorous in the theorem statements. So now let's have a look at some examples of the second fundamental theorem in use.


So my beautiful people today, I am back with another Alderman ring video and today I'm going to showcase to you guys how you can get possibly the best looking armor in this game. Check this out! You may just out there will not want to miss this. How's it going guys? My name's DP Jane, if you do enjoy the video, leaving a like really helps out and if you like what you see and want to see more be sure to subscribe. So so so loose that you've probably heard his name. This is his armor and it's incredible looking, incredible looking. That globe on his head really looks like a flaming eyeball in it looking badass. Now that's your armor set is more or less the same the way you obtain it's the same where you obtain the Azur armor set. Now if you saw my Azur armor set video it's this one's probably going to seem a little like deja vu because it's basically the same kind of thing. So yeah we'll use a lot of footage from that video and cut it and slice it and put it into this one because it just makes things a lot easier instead of me re-editing the same footage just to do the same thing. So yeah but either way guys this armor set is incredible and I'll short you now or you may just out there who want a badass looking armor set this one could be just for you. So check it out guys if it's what you like you know how to get it with this guide. Now that's your helmet does offer a a special trait which let's have one have a look at it right now. So you see here what power remains within raises the potency of the Lusax primeval current sorceries at the cost of additional fp consumption. So there we have it people. What they just can't tell me that don't look that looks incredible. Look at the helmet it alone is just next level it really is. So before you do this there are two things you need to know about it. Firstly you need to have beaten Rodan and you also need to have beaten Renala queen of the full moon. They can do these along the way especially Renala because you have to go back to this spot but Rodan I'll take out of the way just straight up just take him out of the way make things easier because I do believe later on in this like quest it does block certain progress. So yes take him out if you haven't done Renala queen of the full moon yet that doesn't matter because you need to go to her anyway or we need to go back to that area to get this set and complete this quest. So worry about that later on but just make sure you've taken out Rodan and you are good people. Okay so firstly guys we need to go and speak to Sorceria Salon and her location is within the waypoint ruins. So come to the waypoint ruin seller grace point if you have that if not go to the waypoint ruins and come down here. We're in here guys you then need to just just get rid of all her dialogue every bit of dialogue she has get rid of it. From here if you haven't already go and grab the kameh azer. If you don't know where this is you'll see the location to it on screen now. Now to get up to the location of this you do need to have the dectus medallion so search youtube for a guide the dectus medallion comes in two halves as soon as you get that guys you can activate this lift it's relatively straightforward and then from this point people follow the path I take on screen now.  Well upon activating the grace guys speak to sorcerer azer and you'll give you this amazing comet azer skill. Now if you've already got this guys you then need to go back to selling guys at waypoint ruins now if you already had the comet azer when you first spoke to uh sorcerer selling and you cleared out all her dialogue you're good to go and you're ready for the next stage if you just got the comet azer you do need to go back to waypoint ruins and speak to her and she will have another dialogue option to talk about comet azer or azer himself so clear out all dialogue options there guys from here guys you should have even more dialogue pop up so clear it all out and you should get dialogue about master lucer which means here guys you are on the right path now this lucer who is a evil sorcerer is trapped behind a magical seal she gives you the seal breaker meaning you have to go to said location and break said seal from here guys you need to go to this point on the map right here now there's a couple of grace points you can spawn in at aranis area i'm just using my closest one which is for for rough so just spawn in here guys and do as i do you'll come to this like grave site ruins thing and behind it guys is actually a border a secret border which if you hit it disappears meaning you can go into this rock cave like system called celia hideaway now you need to follow the path i take unscrewed now through this system there's a few uh secret walls in your way that you need to get rid of by hitting and you eventually guys have to come down there's actually two floors to this uh there's one like either side of each other you want to go to the one i think it's on your left and you'll see a sorcerer standing in front of a sealed wall where you have to take out of this sorcerer and then guys to scope to the wall and trigger it so you now guys have access to lucer now if you speak to him he doesn't say much but he gives you the star of ruin you then guys it's a goal back to sell them within the way point ruin seller here again guys clear out all dialogue and she will eventually request your assistance on an important task and from here guys you need to make your way down to the witchbane ruins so any grace here uh around this area is completely fine because you need to get to the witchbane ruins which you'll see me doing on screen now once you get here guys just come down as i do on screen now moving guys you'll find a true body of sorcerer selen here guys you'll see that she needs you to take a prime or glint stone basically her soul to a new body and you need to agree to do so guys from here guys we need to travel to where this new body is located now this new body is located within renny's rise and to gain access to this area guys you have to fight your way through a few enemies as well as a boss who can be quite difficult but lower to medium players can take him out i talk about way way way earlier on within my playthrough so yeah you need to come up to carry a manna as you can see here on the map and fight your way through this manner grounds so just follow the path i take on screen now guys and you'll end up at this boss who you need to take out the boss's name is royal knight louis and he can be a bit of a pain like i said if you're a low level but medium level players i mean to be honest like i said i beat him as a low level so yeah you shouldn't have too much of a difficulty if you can take out redine there should be no problem for you so from here guys follow the route i take on screen now from the grace you get upon beating lower and you need to come to this ruins here on the ground here there will be a false floor which when you hit it will disappear i mean you can go down now you need to come down into this chamber and hit another false wall as you can see me doing on screen now within here guys you'll see that body that selen had stalled away and here you transfer selen's glint stone into this body and then you just clear out the dialogue guys and from here guys you need to go to here but i'm right at the map of the chamber outside the plaza because you need to speak to an mpc here called jaren now you need to do this after he's defeated redine that's what i'm saying that's why redine needs to be taken out now this guy is located within the church not far from where the actual redine fight is initiated now if you speak through all his dialogue he will mention that he's getting out of here to attend to unfinished business from here guys you need to go back to the witch bane ruins but i'm left at a map within here guys you will find jaren and that bloody corpse of selen's body here guys speak with jaren until all dialogue is gone this means guys you have to get to the grand ray lucara library and to gain access to this area guys you first have to break a seal which is blocking all doors now if you come to this point on the map right here guys you'll get a map from a dude will take you to the key of where you break the seal it's hidden behind a dragon right about here so guys i'll do on screen now guys grab this key then you can come back to the seal guys and gain access to this area now here guys you have to go to the area where runala queen of the full moon is located within that grand library if you haven't already you do have to take her down but if you have you're already good for the next step so upon taking down runala queen of the full moon which is relatively a quite simple fight from the sight of grace that will spawn after you beat her run back outside of the door you'll see there's two summoning signs we have a red one on the right and a yellow one on the left but the purpose is that this we want to go to the yellow one on your left here guys obviously you want to summon to assist sasha selen so that's the option you want to go with go with the yellow one from here guys you have to help defend selen from jaren so kill jaren and then you are good upon doing this guys you then need to speak to selen who will be at the center of this grand library from here guys just clear out all her dialogue weeping those rewards she gives you from here guys then once all dialogue is done go to the gray sit down and stand back up and you'll notice she will disappear and the remainder of runala queen of the full moon will be back and from this point guys you can now get the lucet's armor you now need to head back to where we first saw him within the selia hideaway go back there guys as i do on screen now go into that little that little room located behind that that seal we have to remove and you'll find his armor set there ready for you to pick up and there we have it guys this is how you get social lucet's incredible legendary armor set if you guys enjoyed the video leaving a like really helps out if you like what you see and want to see more out of the ring be sure to subscribe and hopefully people i will see you on that next one


Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. My name is Adrian Monk, I'm managing director for public engagement at the World Economic Forum. That's great. I hope you can hear me now. And I'm delighted to welcome and introduce the co-chairs for this 33rd World Economic Forum Summit in Delhi. It's taking place under the theme of innovating India, strengthening South Asia, impacting the world. We'll have a chance to hear from each of our co-chairs on their hopes and expectations for the coming two days of the summit. And I'm going to start by introducing the Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister of Singapore, Mr. Heng Swee Kitt. Morning, sir. Can you share with us your hopes and expectations for this meeting? Well, first of all, we are going to put a period of very major changes in the global economy in terms of support for globalization in different parts of the world. In some parts of the world, there is a retreat from globalization. In other parts of the world, there is growing interest in globalization and trying to make the integration in a better global. Mr. Prime Minister, to give you my microphone, because we're not quite picking you up on the microphone. Oh, OK. Is that better? Yeah. OK. Well, let me repeat that. I'm very happy to be back here in India for this economic summit. And we are going through a period of very major changes in the global economy, first in terms of the support for globalization. In some parts of the world, there is a retreat from globalization. In other parts, there is a great desire to integrate our economy better, to have better specialization and division of labor, and to look at how, through that, we can raise the productive efficiency of the resources that we have. Now, so that's one aspect. Another aspect is that we are seeing also a growing inequality, both in terms of wealth and income, both within countries and across countries. And there is a lot of concern about how that itself is supporting globalization. And third, we are also seeing a lot of concern about the impact of economic growth on sustainable development, on the environment. So we are undergoing a period of very major changes in the global economy with a trade friction that shows no sign of abating. And this is a very important time for us to come together to look at what is it that we can do together, given this broader global context, of how South Asia and the rest of the world, Southeast Asia, Asia, and those like-minded countries around the world, can come together to provide support for global integration for the multilateral trading system and for us to tackle many global challenges around the world. And we see very useful topics in this WEF forum. And in particular, this follows on from what the WEF has been doing in raising this issue of the Fourth Industrial Revolution. I think technological changes are also growing at a very rapid pace. And this is going to have significant effects on almost every sector in the economy. What used to be non-tradable are no longer non-tradable. And with e-commerce, for instance, what used to be part of my mom shop could now be part of a global value chain. So we are seeing these massive changes that are happening. It brings a lot of challenges, but also a lot of opportunities. So I'm very happy that this forum discusses a whole range of different topics. And I look forward to learning from everyone in this forum. Thank you. The leader of one of India's biggest health care brands, executive vice chair of Apollo Hospitals Enterprise, Shabana Kamaneni. Shabana, could you share your hopes for the coming two days summit? Well, one is that I didn't want to miss an opportunity of a global platform in India where there are more women co-chairs. The Prime Minister of Bangladesh is not here than men. And this actual inequality, they say, will just is going to equal out probably in 70 years. And I won't be around. In the US, it'll probably take 120 years. So that, for me, was number one. Here was a platform of inequality of women. So happy to do that. The second point is that I think that the topic is so perfect because we're really talking about innovation from India. And people would think that here's a country that has so many other challenges. And why are you thinking of innovation when you should be thinking of other real-level problems to address the inequality of among 1.3 billion? But I think that's where the crux is. That's where the crux is that India will innovate great frugal models that are relevant to the world. And I see nothing more relevant than health care. That's where it's happening that here in India we're able to give health care at a fraction of the cost of the rest of the world. The Aishwan Bharat of the Prime Minister is actually innovating a model where he's 500 million people will get access to health care. And this will have to bring up so much innovation to make it a reality. And from that, India has always been engaged with our region. We've been there in terms of you say, I think health care is the most in terms of diplomacy, a soft diplomacy comes from health care, that we treat people from around the region. And I think more of that can happen that not only can we take our models to the rest of the world, but India will also, through its medical expertise and through some of the technology, what we're working with, the partnerships, international partnerships with global companies. And in this region, so I think that when we really talk about innovation, India has excellent models to be able to take that around the world. And first regionally, and then through the world, while we face challenges, I think many of them will get at least spoken about here. You spoke about some great challenges that are going to take place, so we need to voice that. Thank you so much. Someone who needs no introduction to tennis fans, sports person, and UN Goodwill Ambassador, Sonia Mirza joins us. Sonia, can you share your hopes for this summit in the next couple of days? Well, first of all, good morning, everyone. It's an absolute honor to be here, and I think it goes without saying why I'm here looking at the panelists. I feel extremely privileged to be in this company. I think that I as a sports person can bring, I feel sport has brought so much equality in my life, and I feel that that can be in the next two days spoken about and addressed in many ways where we can actually talk about how sport can bring countries together and improve economy in a certain way. And it's happened in amazing countries. It's happened in China, and it's happened in a lot of other countries. So I really hope that one day we get there, and hopefully we can address those issues. And the second thing that is very, very close to my heart, which I hope to address in the next couple of days, is the equal opportunity for women. It's as simple as that. It's not about the physical strength of being equal to a man. It's about having equal opportunity.  Please call me Shobna Aunty, sorry. And like she said, it's a privilege. I think equality starts right here. We've got more women panelists than men panelists. So yeah, I really do hope that we can address those issues and actually find solutions because there's so much said and done about equality and equal opportunity. It's just about trying to bring it together and make it happen. Thank you so much. We're talking about innovation. One of the biggest investors in innovation here in India is Sequoia Capital, joined by Shlendra Singh, who's the managing director. Shlendra, what are you hoping to achieve in the next couple of days? First, it's a real privilege and honor to be here. And it's even greater privilege to be in the minority on the panel. So we are very much in the midst of a very significant technology-led transformation. We think it's already happened in the developed world. It's already played out in the US and China. We think it's happening at a very rapid pace in India and Southeast Asia. And it's happening across sectors, as Minister Heng mentioned. And we think the rise of technology over the next 10 years will be pretty transformational. The largest market cap companies will be technology companies. Many of them are still quite young. And it's already playing out that in various different sectors, the young upstarts are the most important and the largest companies in India and in Southeast Asia already. And in this type of an environment, we feel like successful tech companies are going mainstream. And mainstream companies have to become technology companies. Every company has to become a technology company. And from our vantage point, we think the World Economic Forum is a great platform for old, traditional, established, incumbent, profitable businesses to actually meet and engage and learn about innovation from the new upstarts. And we try to invite, along with the forum, several dozen of the new and emerging technology leaders to this venue to essentially engage in dialogue so there's better understanding of how to build a healthier ecosystem together. Thank you. And lastly, delighted to be joined by some company that came out of the first dot-com revolution, booking.com, and their chair, Gillian Tans. Gillian, can you share some of your hopes for this meeting? Yeah. Well, first of all, it's great to be here on this platform today. Also, if you think about the progress that has been made in India in the sector where we operate, India was ranked by the travel and tourism council in the top three, looking at the past seven years from 185 countries from the progress that has been made. We can say that has been improvements that we see in this market. Then, if you look at overall economic growth and the addition of the prime minister to go in five years to a $5 trillion company and to do this through pillars like inclusiveness, innovation, infrastructure, but also international connections. I think it's great that we are all here together. Also, international businesses to see how we contribute to this mission. And booking is a company that really wants to empower people to experience the world. And we really do that to boost local entrepreneurs. And therefore, we bring economic growth. If we connect all of our partners to the digital age, even in India, we have 55,000 partners where we operate with not only big companies, but most of them are small properties, local entrepreneurs. And we really try to create advantages. So we create advantages for these businesses. We create advantages for our platform, for our customers, but also for the society as a whole. And my personal passion is around women and technology and really to help entrepreneurs all around the world to realize their dreams. And with booking, we are very proud of what we have accomplished so far. And there's lots of examples we still see today. Even here in India, we see people that are becoming a local guy to show their destinations. We see people opening up their homes to bring local dining experiences, opening up to stay at their houses. And even a company like Poonja, which is a company called Women on Wheels, who provides taxi services by women to make it more safe for women to take taxis. That's a company that we also support within our booking booster. Gillian, thank you very much. We have time for some questions. If I can get a sense in the room of who has a question, if you could just raise your hand. And if we can ensure that we're on questions for all of our panelists that take in the theme of the meeting, that would be a fantastic way to run this press conference. If you could just tell us your name and your organization before you ask that would be fantastic. And can we get a microphone to the folks with their hands up, please? Thank you. My name is Philip Monnier, representing La Jaffee from Switzerland. I have a question to Mr. Hanswick Kitt. I have a privilege to live in your country for two years, and I was impressed. I think it's a model country, not only in terms of economic development, but also in terms of social, religious, and many other things, developments. So my question is, to which extent do you feel that the success of Singapore can be replicated to other countries? That's a great question. Hi, I'm Sajid here from BloombergQuint. My question is for Mr. Singh. Especially for the private space and startups in India, what are the kind of lessons that you learn from the V-Work debacle? I think very sustainable. Great couple of questions. One on Singapore's model and how applicable it is across South Asia. And secondly, I think looking at the future of the dot com second round with the IPO of V-Work that's taken so much media attention. If I can start by turning to Deputy Prime Minister and just ask you, sir, are there lessons from Singapore that are applicable across the region that you feel, or do you feel that there's things for both sides to learn across this region? Well, first let me, can y'all hear me? Yeah. That's good, yeah. Well, first let me say that thank you for your compliments on our success, but I have to add that one must never take success for granted. We just have to keep running because the changes happen even faster. Now, if I would say that, and I would say that there is a particular model that is applicable across the world, but I would say that there are useful lessons that we ourselves have learned that we can share and that others and we can also learn from others. A one important lesson really is that the economy is very dynamic. There will be constant changes. And over the last 50 odd years of our independence, we have gone through ways and ways of changes. The key is to stay useful and relevant to the world all the time. And at the time when you have many rapid changes that are happening, whether it's in the support for globalization, whether it is in technology and the fourth industrial revolution, or whether it is in educating our people, rescaling our workers, all these major issues which every country will have to respond to. But probably respond to will very much depend on the path that we've taken so far. Economic development is somewhat path dependent. You can't just switch to a completely different path. You just can't switch to a completely different path tomorrow and that we'll have to take and try to get to the right path at the right time. So on that I would say that what we have found to be extremely useful is first being part of a global economy and that's why we are strong supporters of globalization of the multilateral framework and multilateral institutions. But when I was in Doha when the Doha round was launched, but unfortunately we have not made much progress in the Doha round. So what we have done instead is that we want to create opportunities to collaborate with many different countries around the world. So we started a free trade negotiations first with New Zealand and then from there and of course within ASEAN. So the ASEAN Economic Community has been real work in progress. It has grown significantly and beyond that we have also negotiated many free trade agreements from all parts of the world including US, China and of course India. Now the next phase that we hope that we can work together is to continue to build on this RCEP, the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership. And I hope that India will be a very major player in this. Now this is not to advocate that we should become fortress Asia but rather we should use this to catalyse support for further liberalisation at the WTO. But at a pace which allows our people to respond, to benefit from and this will be one major issue that we can work together. And the other is of course dealing with this, the Fourth Industrial Revolution. The Sri Lankan point about the importance of innovation is going to be very important and how do we all work together to support the science, technology and innovation. You see research bodies all over the world doing work, you see corporates doing work on this area. But I think if we can again work together we will all be stronger. And the last point I will make is that since like Shalendra, I'm the one that is, we too are outnumbered by all the ladies and I'm very happy to see that. And I think in many parts of the world we can unleash far better economic opportunities if we empower our women. And in that regard, I would say it's not just about economic growth. More importantly is I think we want to create a system where every person better than the men or women have the opportunity to realise their full potential and to fulfil their aspirations. And here we have three great role models of what they can do to show that women can lead companies, can lead startups and can be great in sports. So thank you. Shalendra, you are also Indian based in Singapore. Are there things that you think Singapore has to offer in terms of models for India and perhaps things that India has to offer in terms of Singapore? And also just to the point made by the other gentlemen, we've seen with some of the oxygen being sucked out of the startup sector by the WeWork experience. We've also had Thomas Kirk, 150 years old, collapsing. What are the implications for the sector you're in? I think I'll answer the first question first, which is to us, technology is transforming all regions. India, South Asia, Southeast Asia and there's lots of potential for collaboration, lots of potential for learning. I've been, just like somebody mentioned, really amazed by the system of governance in Singapore and it makes for a very efficient environment. And I think the Indian government also has sort of made pretty tremendous progress in the last several years with the ease of doing business rankings with some very transformational things like UPI, Aadhaar in financial services and financial inclusion in payments. And I think definitely learnings apply on both sides and there are plenty of examples where there's lots to sort of learn from each other. I think coming back to the question on tech and the WeWork issue, I'm not qualified to specifically comment on WeWork, but I think it's a reminder from afar and so I'm an observer just like everybody else. I think it's a reminder that companies of scale should be built with an enduring company mindset and that businesses should have a, inherently should be built with the view to be sustainable and such and have great governance around them. So I think it's an important reminder. I think lots of very high quality companies are being built in this region and I think some will go through their cycle of ups and downs as they go through it. This process of tech transformation is never a straight line and it goes through some ups and downs because as somebody who's been investing in tech for a dozen plus years, these companies are immensely fast growing and immensely fast changing and there's often no playbook to follow. But I think the principles of enduring companies and the principles of good governance still apply and I think it's a reminder that you have to sort of really embrace innovation by keeping those two principles at the core of how you innovate. Gilliam, booking.com came out of the first.com boom and not every company out of that boom survived. I mean, are there lessons from what your company went through that apply in this round of unicorns and perhaps over excitement? Yeah, so what I've seen at booking with what is extremely important is to keep focusing on customers because customers change and especially if you think about technology, customers also get much more advanced in technology and you need to make sure you keep adapting to the needs of these customers. You need to make sure you keep innovating and we've seen it as well when we are now 20 years old but when all started to arise, that was an interesting moment for a company like booking that basically was founded on only desktop and then to see, okay, can we also be successful with customers that are booking their mobile devices and that are actually traveling with their mobile device and we can have much more of an influence on customers even throughout their journey and be much more of a help and I think that's the journey that booking has gone through and for me, that has been critical to the success that booking is still accomplishing today. Can I just get a sense of the room if we have more questions for our co-chairs? Ladies there and there please and I think, am I gonna have to give up my microphone? I think I am. Let me pass it down to you. I have a question for Minister Heng, please. Rebecca Bundin from CNA. I'd like to ask you about the status and developments of the third comprehensive economic corporation agreement. You spoke quite a bit about trade relations there so I'm wondering if there are any developments that you can share with us? Any kind of progress, any sticking points? Also with regard to these kind of relations between countries in the region, could you talk about your views on current ties with ASEAN and South Asia at the moment? What are the challenges there, please? That is a great question. I'd like to bring in some of our other co-chairs as well so if you can answer the question which can engage our panel, that would be fantastic. Okay, well my question is mostly for, my name is Saheli, I'm from CNBC based in Singapore. My question is mostly for Minister Heng, but I mean, I'd love to hear all of your views too. So Singapore and India has increased its collaboration over the years so much so that Prime Minister Modi has recently said that the relation has gone from one of competition to collaboration. And Mr. Heng, you spoke about how there is growing inequality in terms of wealth and income and how economic growth is having an impact on sustainable development. So can you share your thoughts on what you feel is the future of this India-Singapore relationship and how it can address some of the topics that are of importance to this forum today? Thank you very much. And before I bring the Prime Minister in, the points you raised about inequality are fundamental to I think a lot of the conversations that are gonna take place in the next couple of days. And I just wanted to bring in Shabana and Sanya on that. Shabana, if I can just ask you, inequality underpins a lot of the conversations around healthcare and you as a leader in one of the principal healthcare brands in India have a role to play in kind of addressing that. How do you see that coming up in the next couple of days? Thanks, Adrian. I'm going to actually anchor your question into something that you spoke about India and Singapore. And one of the exciting things is while Singapore is looked at is the Innovation Hub, a lot of Singapore companies look to India and its population to see how they can commercialize it first. So while, and some of us house our companies outside and Singapore being the first destination. So I think there's a lot of collaborative in terms of the innovation and the models coming up. And I can tell you in healthcare, we've had many companies from Singapore that innovated in Singapore, but said, look, we can't commercialize, we can't take it to scale. Could you please incubate it within the Apollo hospital system? And I think that's a model that will increasingly start in many areas. And one I'd like to particularly point out is that when Singapore came to us, you know, IE of Singapore came to us and said, we have a lot of small companies that are interested in this smart cities, but we've really missed the bus into some extent with all the big consortiums. But we have people who can think about doing smart villages and smart rural hubs. So you're looking at Singapore, which is probably an island city nation, you know, all about a city and you're trying to take this out into the rural areas. And I think these are very exciting. The thought process that we can actually think these things through across the sea, across the country. So innovation would come from many of these ideas and partnerships.  What is your experience in looking at lessons that the region can kind of draw on across the different examples in terms of tackling inequality? Well, I mean, I think that if it comes actually to Singapore funnily enough, it used to hold the biggest ornament that the WTA ever had, which I happen to win twice actually. So which is why I personally love Singapore. But I think, you know, I think that said a lot in terms of innovation that we were talking about to bring tennis to a region in Asia, which is not necessarily known for tennis. We're more known in Asia for other sports. And I think that these are the steps that are taken. And you know, now obviously that tournament I think has been moved to China. So that just has opened up gates for other countries as well, you know, to have the biggest women's tournament as a tennis player. I can say that for me it was a privilege. But having said that though, I think that traveling across the world and coming back to inequality, I think inequality exists everywhere in all kinds of things, whether it's economic growth, whether it's women, you know, and I specifically obviously deal with that on many levels. But there's inequality even today in sport where we're still supposed to justify why we get equal prize money even though we do. So I mean, obviously I think that in this time and age when we still need to justify that and we still need to explain why it happens, I think that is an opportunity for us to over here try to address that issue and try to actually do something about it. Where, you know, as women, we don't need to be always questioned or answered about why, you know, equality needs to exist. Deputy Prime Minister, can I turn to you now? First, let me add to the comments of Shobana and Sonia on this issue of, you know, how Singapore can be a gateway. You mentioned that it's interesting that the companies, the startups in Singapore find India a great place to scale up. And I think this is the example of collaboration that I've been mentioning, which is that Singapore, because we are small, we have to play in a very different way. We have to maximize the advantage of being small. The fact that we are one layer of governments that we have regulatory agencies that work well together with the development agencies allow us to make changes to rules and regulations much faster. And one good example is in FinTech. The Monetary Authority of Singapore, which is our central bank regulator, is also the agency that is promoting innovations in FinTech. But financial service says its own characteristics that if you don't regulate it well, you can end up with a problem, including financial crisis. So what MES has done is that they have created this idea of a regulatory sandbox. So anything that's done within this box with well-defined parameters are allowed where existing rules don't apply. But if you want to scale up, you have to do something else. So we hope that beyond the sandbox, in many ways, because Singapore is small and we can make changes to rules and regulations much more easily, we hope that that can be a source of innovation too. And in that regard, it allows for different models, whether it's healthcare, whether it's booking of travel, whether it is even in tennis game, for us to do a lot of that. And at the same time, to have very close relationship with our partner economies, and India is certainly one of those. And for us to then take the innovation to scale. And if it can be done within Asia, it can be done throughout the world. So this is a value. Now back to the two questions on the SICA. Well, SICA and negotiations are ongoing and the upgrade will be... Minister Chan Chuen Singh is dealing with this and he has told me that they are making good progress. And beyond that, we are also in discussions on the RCP, the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership Agreement. I very much hope that India will be a part of this very important agreement. And again, I hope that we can make good progress. The progress we are seeing is encouraging and I hope we built on that. Then on the question on the competition and collaborations, I think across all fields of activities, competition and cooperation will be an important model. My favourite example is, I think those of you who have been to Singapore, you know, we have plenty of hawker centres. And in a hawker centre, they sell a variety of food. Now, if every hawker sells the same identical food, only one or two will survive. Because the one or two that is the best in selling the same food will scale and take over the whole hawker centre. But that will make the hawker centre itself very unattractive because nobody is going to eat the same thing in the same place. So in the same way, I think, whether it's companies, whether it's countries, or companies in the same industry face the same common challenges, whether it is about the trading rules, whether it's about the skills of the labour or whether it is about government regulations. And I do believe that companies ought to come together within the same industry to look at how we can solve these issues together. And in fact, Switzerland is a very good example of this. I visited Switzerland to look at what the companies were doing. But at the same time, each company seeks to differentiate itself. That I'm offering consumers something different, something better than the other one. And because it is different, you can see how different consumers who have different preferences will go to different places. And the same applies for economies. You cannot have two economies operating identically, trying to have the same competitive advantages. Not possible. But we should then look at how we can collaborate and leverage of each other's strengths. That's a great point, Deputy Prime Minister. And one of my principal missions is to deliver all of our co-chairs to the opening plenary, which starts in seven minutes. So if you'll forgive us for departing promptly, I know there'll be a chance during the next couple of days to speak to them individually and follow up on anything that you really would like to pursue further. Thanks to all of them. I wish everyone here a very profitable and enjoyable two days. And see you in the opening plenary. Thank you.


All right guys, we have some serious stuff to talk about today, which is better for you to use M1 finance or Robinhood, I've been getting bombarded with questions on discord, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube comments, every social platform Which should I use for trading? Which should I use for investing? So I figured why not just make a video on it so whenever I do get that question I could link you to this video so in today's video We're just going to be doing that talking about M1 finance Robinhood my personal experience with it So you can actually get some perspective on what you should be using whether you have a goal to be an investor or a Trader and honestly you could be both of these at the same time And I want to give you guys a plan of action for that So if you enjoy this video feel free to go down below hit that like button Consider subscribing if you want to see further content involving the stock market Investing and trading this is the channel for you and let's get right into it So first and foremost guys M1 finance and Robinhood These are both discount brokers meaning that you don't have to pay a Commission each time you buy and you don't have to pay a commission each time you sell a stock and ETF Whatever it may be right so this is very beneficial to those out there starting out with the smaller amount of money Whether it be two hundred dollars five hundred dollars maybe even a thousand dollars Right because if you're using a traditional broker like TD Ameritrade fidelity ones that charge Commissions, you know this may eat into your profit when you're starting out right think about it if you're placing a trade with let's say a Hundred dollars and it costs five dollars to buy five dollars to sell That's already a ten percent chunk out of that one hundred dollars So you're going to have to make ten percent at least on that trade or that investment to break Even right, which is why M1 finance and Robinhood and a bunch of other discount brokers are awesome So the goals of investors and traders they're different right It's like one side of the spectrum versus the other a trader The whole idea of being a trader is hopping in and out of a stock quickly to Capitalize on a short-term movement whether that's an intraday play You know buying and selling in the same day also known as a day trade or a swing trade Right, which is buying one day and maybe selling in five days ten days a month two months Whatever it may be right the whole idea is to buy and capitalize in a short period of time Which in terms of investing that's not the case right investing You're looking to buy a stock and hold it for the long term Maybe two five years maybe five ten years whatever it may be right So that's kind of the distinction of an investor versus a trader So M1 finance and Robin Hood they cater to two of these different crowds Which is what we're going to get into right now So if you're looking to short-term trade in the stock market day trading swing trading hopping in and out of stocks I think Robin Hood is the best option for you and let me explain why so when you're short-term trading The price that you get the stock the price you buy the stock at is extremely important Right, you don't want to end up doing your technical analysis Watching price action hitting a buy order a market order and then getting the stock 40 cents above from where you executed your trade right that might mess up your whole strategy for that trade And that might make you lose money on that specific trade right the whole entire idea is to execute your trade Whether it's a market order or a limit order and get the exact price that you want And Robin Hood allows you to do this and on the flip side M1 finance does not allow you to do this So M1 finance has a trading window meaning if you buy a stock Let's say I put an order in right now 11 30 a.m. Right. Let's say I put in an order for M1 finance I want to buy the specific stock the order won't go in until the next day's trading window Which is very detrimental for those that are looking to trade stocks because again guys the whole entire idea Is to get the stock at the price point that you want to get it at the the price point that it's currently at At that moment in time and M1 finance does not let you do that The trading window is the window of time each weekday when M1 makes all trades for user accounts M1's trading window benefits users because it helps keep M1's Management fees low since M1 is only trading one time per day M1 is a long-term investment vehicle not a trading platform. So timing of trades is less Important so that's pretty much it in a nutshell for what is better for trading hands down Robin Hood guys You can get the stock at what price you want whether it's a market order or a limit order And you can set limit sells and then profit based off whatever your strategy is for that particular investment And Robin Hood also has options trading So if you're more advanced of a trader if you're looking to play puts if you're looking to play Call options whatever it may be Robin Hood is definitely a vehicle that you should keep an eye on because it has commissions free options trading as well This is not to say Robin Hood is not a good long-term investment vehicle because it definitely is but in this video We're breaking down trading versus investing and which one is better for what so in my opinion again Robin Hood is fantastic for trading stocks Especially if you're a beginner with a small amount of capital whether it's a hundred five hundred or thousand dollars Whatever it may be, but you can also use it for a long-term vehicle. So now let's talk about m1 finance So m1 finance is definitely the platform to use if you're a buy and hold Type investor if you want to buy and hold a stock for a three years five years 10 years and collect those dividends and grow those dividends and by the way guys I actually have a m1 finance portfolio building playlist that it's linked down below Where i'm building a portfolio from absolute scratch on m1 finance showing you guys How i'm investing in that particular portfolio is actually a dividend growth portfolio And i'm looking to add some more growth stocks to that portfolio in the coming future So m1 finance is absolutely great guys. It's an easy to use platform It allows you to build your own custom pie chart which allows you to split whatever stocks Whatever ETFs you want based on a percentage value as to how much you want that stock or ETF to hold In your portfolio. So for example, you guys can see mine here, right? I have it split down Between johnson and johnson Altria, I have AT&T. I have alibaba. I have a developed markets fund These are stocks that i'm looking to hold long term, right? And these are companies that i'm going to be reinvesting the dividends and one cool thing about m1 finance Is that it allows you to automate your investing if you want it to right if you want it to You can have it auto invest your cash and auto rebalance your pie to fit The specific percentages that you initially said right and since i'm more of a hands-on investor I'm not doing this right i like doing it manually But if you want to kind of build your pie and then funnel money every single week into m1 finance It will literally disperse that cash for you and split it into what your pie Is set based on the percentages of the different stocks and ETFs in there Which is very very awesome for a more passive Investor m1 also allows you to see hedge fund pies, right? You can see warm buffets icon capital You can see a bunch of these pies from really professional investors that have been in the game for a long long time So you can see how they allocate their money So it's very interesting that you can actually see breakdowns of other people's pies You know pies that m1 actually creates for whether you're a growth investor dividend investor You know if you're looking to retire in 20 30 years It's very interesting how you can use all of these features to kind of help and assist you in building your own portfolio So the gist of it guys is that m1 finance is definitely the better option If you're looking to long term invest and you don't really care about What price you get the stock in that particular day, right? It won't matter if you get let's say johnson and johnson at 130 dollars versus 130 and Dollars and 50 cents, right? It really wouldn't matter because long term here You're going to most likely come out on top You know if you're picking good quality companies that are supposed to grow over time So if you're looking to invest and trade at the same time Maybe it'd be best to have all of your money in robin hood, right? Because robin hood again It allows you to buy at that particular time period and you can also buy and hold stocks for the long term Right, but let's say you're strictly looking to long term invest I really like the way m1 finance is set up the pie function the way that it's very very passive You can just deposit money in and it splits the money accordingly based on your pie I really really like that right but at the end of the day guys It's all about personal experience in me. I've used both robin hood and m1 finance And i'm honestly leaning towards more m1 finance at this point Which is why i'm building out that portfolio on m1 finance because of these features that i just talk about I really find it helpful and i really like the way everything is laid out But don't get me wrong if i'm doing some options trading if i'm looking to maybe short term trade on a small account Sure, i'd go on robin hood and i'll do some options trading I'll do some short term trading there But overall if you're looking to short term trade robin hood long term invest m1 finance And hey, you can even use both if you want to it doesn't really matter It all just comes down to your goals and what you like better in terms of these platforms So I hope you guys enjoyed this video if you did find some value in it Feel free to go down below hit the like button consider subscribing if you want to see further content for me Drop a comment. Let me know what you guys think about robin hood and m1 finance. What do you like better? I'd love to know and i'll catch you all in the next video