And I'm sitting inside my Evolve 20 Sunstream Fire and Freed Sauna. So I'm going to test this sauna using my Cornet Electrosmoke Meter. That's incredible. Like I said, it's from AlexFergus.com. And I'm sitting inside my Evolve 20 Sunstream Fire and Freed Sauna. So today what I'm going to do is I'm going to test this sauna using my Cornet Electrosmoke Meter. I'm going to test the EMF levels in this sauna. So I'm going to test the magnetic fields emitted from the carbon panels here. I'm going to test some microwave fields for Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. I'm also going to test the electric fields which is typically high in fire and freed saunas. I've already done a comprehensive review on this sauna. You can check that out at AlexFergus.com. There's a blog review over there. I will also be doing a video review. So depending on when you're watching this, I'll put all the links to those videos and articles below. But this video is just going to be focusing primarily on the EMF readings. A quick note on this meter, the Cornet Meter. It is only about $200. I'll put a link below if you want to purchase one of these because a lot of people ask where can I get it from. What that does, obviously the meter will show the reading. Tesslers, micro-Tesslers and whatnot. But then that traffic light system on the side will tell you whether that reading is safe for the body. Dangerous or extremely dangerous. And now I've set this up so the color system is very strict. It's using the building biology standards which is quite strict. I'm going to get into it. I'm going to have a quick look at the sauna setup. And I'll go through the panels and everything in the wiring. And then we're going to get this meter out and start testing it. Be sure to hit subscribe and check out those other videos below. I will be doing a lot of comparison videos with this sauna and my clear light sauna. And I also have EMF videos on other devices such as my red light panels, the aurora ring and other gizmos and gadgets. So Sunstream use nano-carbon heater panels. All right, so this is what emits the infrared rays in the saunas. Sunstream have developed these panels so they are virtually free of EMF. And we're going to test that soon. Because traditionally, well typically most most infrared sauna panels emit a lot of magnetic and electric fields. So some companies will put cloth or mesh covers over the sauna panel to block some of those electric fields. And then they'll do certain things with the wiring. And sometimes they just say stay a few inches away from the panel. So you're not exposed to potentially dangerous. Now Sunstream and this Evolve sauna. I'm an Evolve 20. I don't know if I mentioned that before. It's a two man sauna. You can learn more over at sunstream.com. And mention my name, Alex Vegas, you will get a free gift or a special deal as well. So what you would have noticed there is I just removed the wooden slat panel. And you can see that this is the heater panel with no covers. There's no mesh. There's no cloth. Nothing on it. It's just the raw heater panel, which is pretty cool. So yeah, they, Sunstream are so confident that there are no EMF levels that they don't need any of those fancy covers or protection covers. And the reason why that is removed like that is so you can easily clean it by the way. Let me just flip back in, which is very cool. All right, so next up we're going to look at the microwave, the Bluetooth and the Wi-Fi technology used in the sauna. And then we're going to look at the wiring set up as well. And then we'll get the corner meter out and start doing some testing. Pretty much all saunas these days or five root saunas at least come with built-in speakers. And often they use Bluetooth and even some use Wi-Fi transmitters. So you can sync with your phone and iPad and whatnot, which is pretty cool.  So here's the control panel for this sauna. Now this sauna doesn't have Wi-Fi, but it does have Bluetooth built in. But the cool thing about this is you can actually disable the Bluetooth and still utilize the speaker and control panel. All right, which is pretty cool. So for those of you who are worried about Bluetooth and N1, absolutely zero microwave exposure when using a sauna, yeah, the Sunstream one is going to tick all those boxes. All right, next up we're going to look at the wiring and then we're going to start making some tests. All right, I'm crouched inside my Sunstream Evolve 20 sauna. And what I've done is I've removed the water and slats, protection slats on the side panels and I have lifted the seat bench, lifted that off to show you the wiring internals. Now a few things I should mention here. Firstly, the back of the seat, the underside of the seat. I don't know if you can see this, it's covered in a middle foil and that's got a grounding connection going into the panel there. Now all of the heater panels, so this heater panel, so obviously internal wiring here comes out here. This is all heavy gauge shielded cabling. It's very, very heavy duty. When I do my Sunstream versus Clearlight sauna, so be sure to subscribe to that. You'll see that this cabling is very or is quite unique to Sunstream. The Clearlight sauna uses cabling just like this, which is not ideal for AMF exposure. So all their cables are very heavy duty cables. And then you've got proper molded, you can secure connections into the power box here. I'm not an electrical engineer, so I'm not going to get into all of this, but you can see it is reasonable. I mean, it's a very heavy duty setup. They haven't cut any corners here. All right, so let's get into testing. Now the first test I'm going to test for, I remember we test three components of AMF, the microwave magnet electric. The first one I'm going to test is microwave. So I've got my corner meter here. The unit's going to be in milliwatts per meter square, I believe. And I'm going to do a background level with the sauna off, and then I'm going to turn it on and see what it comes up to. All right, so I'm going to try to zoom in on the meter here, so you can see the numbers. And I'm just going to talk over it. All right, so that's how pretty much I hit height as I sit in the middle of the sauna against the back wall. You can see over here that we're in the safe zone, which is great. And the figure on there is 0.000009, which is nothing. I mean, there's no background. Wifi, I don't have the wifi on. I don't have my phone on me. So I'm going to turn it on. All right, so the sauna is now on. And in fact, the drop down of fraction, we're 007. So there's no reading. We're up to 0.0011.  See how this green notch hasn't even moved? All right, so there's two or three green notches before you get up to yellow. So with that sauna on, what was the highest we got there was 0.0014, which is nothing. I mean, it's, yeah, I don't even know if this unit is that accurate. That's great. I mean, that's awesome. There was absolutely no EMF liver whatsoever from a microwave point of view. Now this sauna does have Bluetooth. I haven't enabled it. Sorry, I haven't disabled it. You can go in and disable it completely. So if I did get my phone, which is not on me and turned on Bluetooth, turned on Bluetooth, it would find it. Now, obviously, if the phone found the Bluetooth speakers in here, that reading would be high. I don't know how high and I don't exactly know where the transmitter is. I don't know if it's in the control panel or down below in the power box below. But obviously, if you're doing that, you're turning on Bluetooth on your phone and you're creating a connection.  The sauna's just going to receive it. But the point of this was you don't have to get your tools out and making any big changes or adjustments to disable the Bluetooth transmitter because with the sauna running and no phone or no Bluetooth devices on me, this corner meter was showing that the levels are perfectly safe. In fact, there are rock bottom. There's hardly any difference between when the sauna was on and when it was off. And just to put things in perspective, I'm going to grab my phone. I'm going to turn it on to see how this jumps up. So just hold there for a minute. So I have my phone. Now, just to show you how low those figures actually are. Um, so we'll get this on screen here. Okay. So my phone's on the airplane mode at the moment. Now I'm going to turn my phone off the airplane mode. You can see in the background and see how that jumps up. Like rock bottom sky high, right? What is it at? 4.85. I put it closer. 10, 64.  We were talking with the sauna on in the background, 0.0014. I mean, it was minuscule, right? Now, if I turn Bluetooth on, my phone just Bluetooth. So everything else is on airplane mode. I just have Bluetooth on. So it's searching. You can still see it's in the red. It's much lower than it was before, but it's still in the red. Now, if I turn the sauna on and then I find the connection. So with that connection on, you can see now that it's in the yellow red sort of level. All right. But as soon as I turn all that off, I turn Bluetooth off on my phone. Well, it's down to green even with the sauna running in the background. So I'll turn the sauna off now. So like I said, you should not be worried about microwave levels even with the Bluetooth transmitter on because there are no, there's pretty much no levels whatsoever, which is great. All right. Next up, we're going to look at magnetic fields. All right. So now we're going to just the magnetic fields. Now magnetic fields are interesting because they're pretty much impossible to block. It's just a distance thing. All right. You can't use any special fabrics or materials to block the fields. All right. Even you need like meters and meters of concrete. So, and they're also quite dangerous. You don't want to be right next to it if the fields are quite high. So that's why when it comes to buying infrared sauna, a lot of companies don't look at EMF levels or they say they got good levels, but in reality, they don't. So, Sunstream with their Volvo range have always said that the sauna or the EMF levels are virtually non-existent. So it's going to be interesting to do this test. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to test the magnetic field as if I'm sitting right up against this panel. All right. So that I should give a tape measure, but it's about an inch. If I am in contact with the wooden slat here, I'm not even an inch, probably about three quarters of an inch away from the middle panel. So that's where I'm going to place this meter. Okay. And again, we've got the building biology standards on the side here. So if you see it shoot up into the yellow red, not ideal. It stays in green. We're in the safe zone. Now the sensor for magnetic fields is on this side.  So the sensor is close. Now one thing, if you do notice it move around as I'm talking, whatever, it's very sensitive to movement. So if I drop it or if I tap it, it'll, it'll spike up. So I'm going to try to get it perfectly still. And then I'll try to get the camera on the screen so you can see it. All right. All right. I hope you can see this. Now I've got the camera looking down at this so I can hold the sensor, the meter. And the sauna is currently off and I'm going to hold it just over the, there's my finger. It's going to be sitting right, right there on that joint. Okay. So not even a niche. And you see as I moved around the number, you know, there's a lot of fluctuation. So if I hold it perfectly still, we'll get a baseline. All right. So see, we're in the green. I hope you can see the screen. Let me see if I can focus on a little bit better. Well, the number on there is 0.03 micro teslas, I believe it is. And see as I move around, it bumps up, but that's not already. Okay. So what I'm going to do, I'm going to try to get it perfectly still in a position where my back would be if I was leaning hard up against the wooden panel. And this is on the back panel, which is the biggest panel in the sauna. And we're about half a foot away from the corner. So this is typically where I'd sit, you know, kind of in the corner with my back up against the panel. Right. So I'm going to turn it on. You can see the level there is 0.03, 0.04, which is, there's movement in the green, but it's still rock bottom in the green. So we're in a safe, perfectly safe zone right now. I'm going to turn this on around there when you hear that beep. And there's absolutely no movement, which is quite surprising. I thought there'd be some movement. Well, there we go. There was a slight bump up into the yellow. But so I'm seeing 0.03, 0.04. The highest I've seen was 0.05. And that may have been me moving, which is very, very interesting. I mean, it's amazing. Okay. That was me moving that little spike there. So we just got a 0.05 and that's the bottom level of yellow. And that was one-off. So you can see that whatever they've done with this ornament with the technology, with the panels here, it obviously works because that's quite incredible. I did not expect that. All right. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to move it closer. I'm going to go right up, hard up against the panel, which you wouldn't do because you'd be burning. Your skin would be burning if you were doing this. And even there, we're at 0.04, 0.05, 0.06 is the highest I saw back to 0.04. Still in the green with a little bit more frequency getting up into the yellow. But that's the lowest yellow sitting. And that's right up against it, which no one would do. I mean, you've got these wooden slats here to protect you. So that's fascinating. So again, we'll turn that off. So I'll leave it sitting there, 0.03, 0.04. So when it's off, there's absolutely no movement. So I'll turn it back on. That's incredible. So there you go. Yeah, I did not expect that. I thought it'd be low, just given what they've been saying. The company's been saying about this technology and what they put on their website in their own testing. And I thought there'd be some movement, like a low yellow or something. So for reference, I was testing that here. So in the corner, right up against it. And even when I had just chicken, I got the right side. The magnetic sensors on the side. Even when I had it right up against the heater panel, there was nothing. I was just checking that the heater panel was working and it's because it's warm.  It was working, which is crazy. So now we're going to test the electric fields. Maybe that will spice things up a little bit. Now this last test, the electric field sensor is on the top here. So ideally, I would test it like that. That's going to mean I have to get the camera up above again. Which is going to take a bit of work. So instead, what I'm going to do is I'm going to have it on a slight angle and I'm going to zoom in so you can see the screen and I'll read out the results as well. I'm going to test it the same distance that, what was it, three quarters of an inch. I'm going to test it like so. So assuming I'm leaning up against the back of the sauna. And to put things in perspective or to give you a baseline, this is quite sensitive as well. The electric field, when you knock it, let's get it on the screen here. We have this running right now. We're at fluctuating between five and 10, which is rock bottom green. There's no movement on the green. All right. So let me zoom in. All right. We zoomed in and I'm not doing the most precise reading to you. But we're less than an inch away from the panel. As you can see, we're at nine, eight, 11, seven. It's rock bottom again. This is with the sauna off. So I'm going to turn this on and run. And it's actually going down. I know we're back at eight, nine, 11, nine, six. So there's absolutely no difference with it on and off. Is that a three? Fire up. So now I'm going to turn it off again. It doesn't even move. Enough. You can see that. Well, probably can't because I went in too much.  It shows any peaks and troughs, right? And you can see there was absolutely no movement. Now, if I bring my phone over, you can, and I put my phone right next to it, you can see, see that it's spike. That's just when I phone next to the device, right? My phone's away. This sauna, this 2000 watt sauna with my magnetic field electric meter right next to the panels. There wasn't even like fluctuation, which is crazy. I mean, it's amazing. It's really, really good. It's awesome. Yeah. Like I'm stuck. I'm just quite surprised. It pretty much didn't detect anything. There was no movement whatsoever with the sauna on or off. It just doesn't even matter. There's no spike. I mean, while you saw what happened when I put my phone there, it shot up. Most infrared saunas, they can lower the magnetic field. The microwave, they just don't have Wi-Fi and Bluetooth. But when it comes to electric field, they've got to put some shielding over it, and it might be a cloth or it might be like middle mesh. So the clear light sauna, I'm going to do a comparison here to here and I'll compare these things. They have to put that over to block it because electric fields fortunately are quite easy to block. But you saw when I took the slats off on the other panel, there's nothing covering these panels. So that means it's been engineered in a way that there is no electric magnetic field in a minute, which is great. And the other great thing is it means, because they don't have to use a cloth or anything, you actually get better exposure. The body can absorb more of that fire infrared light because as soon as you put something up there, it's going to block it. And it might only be 10, 20, 30 percent. I got no idea, but anything that's physically there is going to lower the infrared rays. Just like these wooden slats do. And I know Sunstream have used wider slat openings compared to the clear light saunas. So that's great. I mean, that's really, really good for people looking to buy an infrared sauna that has absolutely zero EMF levels. We tested microwave, which is your Bluetooth and Wi-Fi. We tested magnetic field, which is from the wiring and the electronics. We tested electric fields, and all of them were rock bottom. And remember, I've set my corner meter up with very, very strict standards. By default, the standards aren't that strict in terms of color code setting. So if something's in the green here, you know it's safe, like very safe. And I'll put a link to that, the standards I follow in the show notes below. So you can be sitting, I could literally be sitting in this corner, right up against the panels, with my head next to this control panel. I could stay there, and I would know that my body is not being exposed to any dangerous electromagnetic fields whatsoever, which is quite incredible, given that this sauna draws 2000 watts. And I am literally surrounded, feet, legs, in front of me, on my side. I'm surrounded by these panels. And yeah, there's no issue. So I will be updating my blog over at AlexFigus.com, where I've written a review on this sauna. I'll be updating that with these readings. And I will also be doing a video review of this sauna. So be sure to subscribe and stay around and check that out. And I will also be doing a hit-to-hit comparison between Clearlight and Sunstream. So if you are looking at buying a sauna, I know Clearlight is a popular brand, but yeah, you might want to check that out, because I think based on this, and based on a few other things I've been looking at, I think Sunstream is going to come out on top, as the better sauna, as the healthier sauna. Plus a good value as well. So there you go. Speaking of value, if you do want to buy one of these saunas, head over to Sunstreamsaunas.com if you're in Canada or America. Otherwise, head to, I think it's infraredsaunas.co.nz if you're in New Zealand or Australia. And you can get all the latest prices and see all the different models. This is an Evolve 20 or two-man sauna. I love it. It's a great sauna. But you're speaking of value, if you want to get the best deal, when you're shopping around or when you're asking for a quote, tell them AlexFigus sent you, and they'll give you an extra sweet deal or a freebie. I'm not too sure what you'll get, but it'll be good and it'll be worth it. So be sure to give me a thumbs up, hit subscribe if you want to check out those other videos and have a look at the other content I've done because there's lots of stuff on here. And if you want to read the full review for this sauna, head over to AlexFigus.com. I'll put links in the show notes below. Bye.


While the internal investigation continues at Bemidji's Sanford Center, its management company VenuWorks has fired two more Sanford Center employees, one being fired in relation to an internal investigation. It was announced Friday that Associate Executive Director Kristi Anderson was let go as part of a cost-cutting measure. Business Manager Randy Miller was also released Friday as a result of the continued investigation into former Sanford Center Executive Director Curtis Webb, who was fired from VenuWorks for using company debit cards for personal reasons. The investigation is ongoing, but the city plans to hold a meeting to discuss recent events. Where things are at right now, the forensic audit is being conducted by Sanford Center's VenuWorks contractor. And that's going to be extended another couple weeks based on some of the preliminary things that they've uncovered. And so that will be extended further for a few weeks. We can't comment on the nature or some of the specifics at this time, but we're going to be holding a closed session of the city council on November 7th to review that. VenuWorks won't be replacing the Associate Executive Executive job, Director job, but they will be looking to fill the now vacant business manager position. If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News, please consider making a tax-deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.


Again, when I was informed that there was child pornography on the internet, I was extremely offended and we started an organization that was extremely militant. We started out as the ACPM, the anti-child porn militia. In the first three weeks of our organization, we got 300 volunteers. A hundred of those volunteers signed up as hackers.   As you all know, that information is backed up on CDs, other hard drives that does absolutely no good. When we came here last year to DEFCOM, we were looking for hackers. While we were here, one of our board people, one of the people in our organization, said something that I really paid attention to. You cannot stop a felony with a felony. Our main goal is to put these people in prison that is the only way they're going to stop dispensing child pornography and wounding children and killing children. In order to do that, we had to embrace law enforcement. We now work directly with law enforcement, other organizations such as Missing Children, FBI, US Customs, UNESCO. One of the things that we've done with our hacking community is we've redirected their energy. They now are building tools to help us fight child pornography. We have one tool in particular that goes out and spiders out child porn on the internet. We are refining that tool according to law enforcement's requirements to do a better job. If we send in all the reports we get of child pornography, they cannot deal with it. We have a lot of work to do. We have a lot of filming. But if we refine those reports and do part of their job to make their job easier, we have better equipment, we have more time, we have more bandwidth, then they can do their job better. We are now a non-for-profit organization. We have a structure. We have a board of directors. If you go to our website, look at their bios. We have businessmen. We have actually two parts to ACPO. We have ACPO and we have TeamACPO. TeamACPO is made up of our programmers and our developers. ACPO, board of directors, myself go through background checks. Anybody dealing directly that close with our organization goes through background checks. Our coders do not. A few of them do because they are working on specific tools. So we have to check who we are dealing with. Well, at this point I think what I am going to do, we also have a huge liaison program all over the United States, all over the world. One of the goals of the liaisons is to look for law enforcement contacts. This is D-Quest. He is our French liaison and our European representative. Hi everyone. As she told you, I am coming from France. I will take care of the European part of ACPO because this child-porn financing is not only a disaster in America but also over Europe where we have a lot of child-porn, not only websites but a really well-organized system. One of my job with ACPO is to take care not only to get contacts, like for example get really good contacts at the UNESCO because we are an official, as Natia said previously, with non-profit status now. It's like a real organization, not only a website. And we are trying to build like a big network of contacts in official agency all over Europe because it's really important to take care of this part of the continent. The other thing is about the team ACPO, as Natia said previously, we do have many programmers who join us directly by our website because we are trying to build a lot of tools in different language, running different platforms. We can use to automatize the maximum of the task because we went like when we started two years ago from single copy and paste, from submission from the website to now fitting directly databases with all the information, all those reports we get from website, from emails and it saves a lot of time. It will help us to be more efficient on the result and all the information we will grab from those reports. The other part for team ACPO is to build some kind of donation where is to make some software running on different operating system that family will be able to use at home just to make sure the kids are surfing and don't see this kind of pictures, this kind of website. So that's one of the biggest plan we get at this time is to release one of the person across platform software to filter not only with keywords but with all the technical parts to prevent this from happening to kids. So we're working on this and that's why we need some programmers for this team ACPO, no matter of the skills you have, it depends because we not focus on any language at this time to build this kind of software or any people with C++, with any language would be really helpful to us for the website part for making the softwares, for creating those databases and I think there's a lot of a lot of job to do on this part. The other part is about our needs, so of course we need some not only software not hardware but we need bandwidth at this time all our information are gathered on computers around the world. One of the main aims is to get local and small and pretty secure network operation center with dedicated line database system like regular network operation system center, sorry. So as a non-profit organization at this time we're able to receive donation from companies, from any people and it already helps a lot this, I don't know what's your word, it's in America, it's the 501C3 that's the technical word for the non-profit. There's a lot of things to do with ACPO. If you have programming skills, if you have skills at all, we don't ask for anyone to work like 24 hours a day, if they just want to spare some time with us, if they feel like doing it, everyone is welcome, really. And we also, as one of our board of directors likes to put it, we're kind of an umbrella that has met with other organizations doing basically the same thing we're doing, trying to stop child porn on the internet. We have a sister organization in Germany, Anti-Kinder Porno DE, who met with us at Myrtle Beach in law enforcement. They've been around for about six years. We have a group in Denmark that we're closely associated with. At this time, I'd like to introduce you to Ra'Loxley from... You never get it right. I don't, I get locks from condemned.org. I'm Ra'Loxley. This is Blueberry. This is our Australian component. Some of you may know me as kind of the hacker contingent. And we started exactly like they did. We didn't call ourselves a militia, although if I had thought of it, we probably would have. We figured that, and it was really Blue and Vort, the other people from Australia that started this. They brought up a website and they knew that I was out there doing it anyway.   You want to come and help. And so we kind of got in bed together right away. And we started in the same way. We started going out and right on the website, it says, we take child pornographers off the net in any way we can. What's the exact wording? It's about it. Any way we can. Well, I got hooked up. Some of you know the name Most Hated, unfortunately now in jail. But one of the good things that he did was introduce me to Natasha and her crew.  And after many screaming phone calls in the middle of the night and her sitting me down and in the channel and saying, you know, you need to listen, I finally came to the realization that as much as I hate to admit it, she's right. And our group now is 100% legitimate. However, we do have a lot of people that come to us and say, listen, we found these sites. What do you want us to do? And we tell them, we want you to report them on the site and we will take care of them. Now, unfortunately, and I'm hoping my law enforcement contact next to me doesn't shoot me. But unfortunately, they don't have as much bandwidth as we do. They don't have as much time. And so what we find is that they'll go and they'll look at the site three or four times. These hackers, and if it's not gone, a lot of the time they take it down themselves. Now, I will not go out and let me step back. When they come to me, I'll always advise them about the law, as I understand it. And I just kind of got my head handed to me. I didn't understand one piece of it. I've always felt that it was morally right to do this, morally right to go and, yeah, it is a felony to perpetrate a felony. But something that I was missing was that when we go out there and we hack these sites, a lot of the time we're stealing evidence from people like them who are in a legitimate investigation trying to put these people in jail. And this is what Natasha has been screaming at me about for about the last six months.  But I will tell them what the legalities are, why you shouldn't do it, and explain to them what the consequences are, potential consequences, which I just got schooled on this morning. It was kind of pretty embarrassing. But if it's a choice between hacking NASA and a pedophile site, I think everybody knows what recommendation I'm going to give them. For us, it's been a hard transition because the people that I deal with are hackers. They're people that want to go out, they want to hack things, and they want it to be something that morally right, they can kind of jump on the bandwagon and do something that they can perform an act of conscience, which they still do. Now, I'm trying to change that. I'm not recruiting, don't need any bandwidth, don't need web space, don't need anything. We have all of that. All I'm saying is that get involved, you know, whether we don't, yeah, sure, everybody needs money, but we're not looking for that either. If you know a congressman, senator, anything like that, write him a letter and say to them, listen, these guys are right, they need to, the congressmen and senators need to start changing some of the laws to give them teeth.  There is a particular law that we have been looking at and we're now actively in the process of trying to change if somebody goes out and rapes a child, they can get 10 to 20 years. If that person is related to that child, generally they get probation, we find that unacceptable. By definition, a child trusts that family member and we find it very difficult to set that type of a precedent to a child and nobody knows that. That's the thing. So that's one example, please, just get on the phone if you know senators, congressmen, just in your home states, just write them a letter and say go look at condemn.org and see if you can help us. That's all, that's all I ask. And did you want to say anything? This is Blueberry, hopefully you can understand her accent. Hi, I just, I've had a thought that I really think the industry should start regulating itself. I'm talking about the people who run web hosting services. Yeah, I think that unless people who start filtering their own content, look at what they're putting online before they just put it up. Otherwise we're looking at censorship down the line. You're giving governments reasons to install software that prohibits people viewing things. We're not for censorship. With the industry starting to look at what they're putting online, if they stop putting it out there, we don't have to take it down anymore.  Perhaps an easier place for us to catch them online like IRC, you know? So if any of you guys are web hosting, check your content first, please, please. Boy, I didn't think you were gonna say anything. On that note, back to you, Nat. Thank you for listening. And I'd like to introduce you to Detective Mark Latterman, and he'll tell you more about himself. My name is Mark Latterman. I'm a detective for Minneapolis, and I'm currently assigned to the Minnesota High-Tech Crime Task Force. Yeah, I can't believe no one spotted me. It's my fed. Anyway, I can certainly appreciate the frustration that several attendees of this convention have regarding hacking child porn websites. However, I do have to caution you that if I am investigating a crime, if I am investigating unauthorized computer access in the state of Minnesota, it is punishable by a five-year felony. And that's to start with. I don't have to show intent. I don't have to show damage. I have to show access. That's very easy for me to do. So I just wanna caution you about doing that. I certainly appreciate the morals behind doing this. I certainly appreciate why someone would want to go ahead and do this. And if I wasn't in law enforcement, I don't know what I would be doing about it. Yeah, I just don't want to see someone with good intentions get more trouble than what they realized could have happened to them. Also, I do wanna keep this brief. So I just wanna touch on one other topic. There's this misperception that if someone wants to report child pornography on the internet, that they wanna go to the feds right away. Well, believe it or not, your local and state authorities have much more authority in dealing with these crimes than the feds do. And I tell you that firsthand as quote off and federal agencies come to me asking for assistance in Minnesota. So I don't wanna tell you folks, don't go to the feds if you wanna report something, but certainly try your local and state authorities first also. Thank you. If you do find it, report it. At this point, we are gonna open it to questions and answers. Yes, ma'am. We wanted to keep this real brief because we know it's handed. Yes ma'am. Well, that's one of the things that we're doing with Team ACP. She wants to know how we're gonna know what the website is. That's one of the things that Team ACP has done is written a script now. So all our reports run through a process. And not only do we give them the URL, but we give them the DNS, the IP, who is all the other information we can. The next step of that, and that goes off to Nick Mick, the missing children, customs, and the feds. After that, if we find that the site is in Alabama, then if you're the Alabama liaison, you will have given us law enforcement connections in Alabama. It will be sent to them also. Go Phil, go. I can actually speak fairly loudly if you want. I'm curious, can you, you can only do things about sites here in the United States, right? I mean, no. That's, really. Yeah. We have law enforcement contacts in a lot of different places in the world. We are by no means to where we should be in terms of our contacts. So if you know somebody, and we'll never have enough, because it's such a global problem that you can keep me if I talk to you. But it's such a global problem that people just don't understand. It's everywhere. And for every site we take down, you know, 10 are put back up. Let's try the time to light it up. Eight weeks before they even do it, it's like, it's too long. It's too long. You've got 20,000 people down wanting to put it in straight back up. So you really please try to lobby, lobby, lobby. Really get law enforcement to cut down these times. This is one of the things that we're doing too, is we're going to address the problem. There are people out there, I think there's corn out there, but I think there's child porn. And there's a lot of people that don't go out because it's child porn. Old ladies with computers. Grab the mic. The other thing Blue had said too about ISPs, we do have a letter that is ready to go out to the ISPs, but because of the process and staying legal, that has to go through all of the board of directors that goes to, that has actually gone to the feds, and that will go out to ISPs now addressing that problem. Something else I wanted to say too. We were sent some information to send over to law enforcement.  I spent three hours deleting information that someone in their good intentions had tried to crash that BBS and shut it down. It took me three hours. I had to send it to a professional organization database. It took them another five hours before we could even start to look at this information to send to the FBI. So a lot of times, like it was mentioned before, and then the evidence that we had gotten before, they did eventually shut this BBS down and a couple others. We lost the evidence that we had ready for law enforcement. So from my point of view, please, if you know of a site, report it if you have a problem, mail, don't shut down these, some of them being watched.  After, we want to argue about the way we will do it. It's different organization, but there is something for sure is we will cross maybe sometime our roads on several sites, and that's why exchanging information, it's not because it's two different organizations that we won't speak to each other, that's why today we are at the same table, is to make sure we don't make them waste some time on the site or if they don't do it, they don't make us waste some time on the site we're working on. And this is really important to get those kind of contacts with all those kind of, with all those organizations. Yeah, that's another example. We also, at the time of ACPM, something like a year ago, one of my friend, Kelm Williams, from AHA, Etiquel Acura Against Pedophilia. The X-Packet Storm, Ken Reynolds. Also known as Packet Storm. Working, we were working on the Russian site, like our folk pics, because when we're talking about child porn, just forget the 10 years kids.  And we're trying to do the maximum to grab information and to work on this case. And just mail him to know if he adds some information and everything, and just tell me, mail me back like a few minutes after the request, just stop it. We're working on this case for at least six months with Interpol, which is the equivalent of a federal agency in Europe, but working all over Europe. And, I mean, they've been working six months. And if we started to work on this case, we are trying to get information or anything. I mean, all their work would have been, what's the word? Worth? Destroyed. For nothing, for nothing. That's why it's really important. We're still in contact with all those organizations. Much as I hate to admit it, hacking these sites does destroy evidence, doesn't put the people in jail, doesn't allow them to be Bubba's girlfriend in jail. And so it deprives me of a great pleasure of knowing that they're in there for a long time really suffering and they can't put their poison back up on the net. So as much as I hate to admit it with my kind of checkered past, they're right. Yes, sir. In the previous session, the gentleman said that it took him three hours to detect who put out the lovebug virus. Why does it take you people six months to get one of these sites that everybody's looking at all day long? Yeah, the thing is, what I was saying about this, you're talking about the Russian site I was talking about, yeah.  But several cases showed us that it's a real mafia behind this. It's a well-organized network of child porn.  What it means is it's backed up. There are several servers. And I mean, it's very well-organized. And what they try to do on this case is to introduce and send some agents directly in Russia to get into this network. Because this is a real mafia. Yeah, you can't, unfortunately, in some cases, you can't jeopardize your life to go after these sites. You have to find a way to get the site down without being killed. So. If I may, a second? Just to go to your question, the lovebug virus, they also have databases of what people have done. This guy was previously up on the radar. What's going on now is pretty much, we're way behind on that level of having information about people and who they are someday we would love to be there. And really, that's what's starting to generate now with the work Natasha's doing and Loxy's doing with generating this information, tracking down and setting up these data warehouses for the lack of a better term.


I hope that's sound working let me see Ladies and gentlemen a lot Because I thought that I didn't realize what time it was but I got a movie date today with my family Going to see old Space Jam and some of y'all know I've been working with the NBA as a speaker and a life coach since 2010 So I got a few guys that I'm cool with that's in the Space Jam movie And that's my little humble brag, but I got to go see Space Jam and so I forgot But before we go to the Space Jam movie We got to go pick up my oldest son because he paintballing with some of his friends So I didn't realize the time so I'm not gonna be on here too long If you missed my video yesterday, I did a video about Women approaching men I've been hearing about that still and more with with our Little raggedy society and just how we changing everything up So y'all make sure you catch that video and then maybe when after my movie when I get back home I might upload a Video for today and for those of you in the blessed business tribe I try to put a business video up every Saturday. I moved that to the blessed business tribe so you'll see that under the channel where it says join and It was some issues with some people in the blessed tribe. So y'all forgive me about that, but you just you know Whitney I honestly don't know how you do it, but I think you know, I Really don't know you probably have to Google it, but I think just where you hit join you hit See perks or something and then you see the blessed business tribe up under the blessed tribe But it's on that's really for people who you know You serious about building a brand building a company a personal brand or a company or something like that If not, it's not it won't really be beneficial So yeah, thank y'all and I'm gonna try to get on here a little more every time I say that then everything in the world You know, it's summertime doing a lot of moving around a lot of traveling but um, I Begin some videos up. Let me see here now if you have a question for me hit the Put hashtag Q So it'll pop up Because I didn't come on here with a topic because I thought I was gonna do a Q&A and then I realized What time it was so I got to get going soon but um, I Pretty sure you probably miss some of my videos because I had like a week there where every day at noon I had one going out So if you miss something make sure you look back Bodine, thank you so much Thank you very much for the support there Okay, so this More people in, you know Europe and whatnot y'all get to find a See a live because it's earlier Ashley Beverly God bless you now. Am I wrong for telling a guy to stop buying me things which is sending mixed signals? No, you're not wrong You're not wrong for that That's very noble of you Thank you. Just join. I'm building my brand and just finished my book and got it on Amazon. Awesome Well, that'll definitely help you. I just posted a video today called a brand story and Talking about a couple different aspects of that. So The blessed business tribe definitely a bless you on that end Am I wrong for telling a guy to stop buying? But you're sending mixed signals. Okay, you I've seen your question in the in the chat now How do I create distance without being rude? Have a friend that's starting to call too much and have a and have a girlfriend Want to avoid an emotional cheat vibe? A lot of time we can't really worry about Being rude you just got to do what you do and and really it comes down to just ignoring If you don't want to say it like hey, you got a girlfriend, you know stop reaching out so much because you got a girlfriend and I know if I Had a boyfriend this you talking that I wouldn't want him to be reaching out to you know One of his lady friends So you can express that if y'all that close and if he gets it he gets it if he get a attitude he get a attitude But you know, I got people in my life like that I have texts and they got a lot going on Some of my professional athlete clients and and there's just so much going on that they might not see my message And I just don't hear from them And sometimes it might be two three messages of me checking in But it just could be there in the season of just shrinking their circle just kind of closing things in and I have to realize and respect that like Hey, it's a lot going on, you know, and so we can't really worry about How a person gonna take it or if they're gonna see it as rude when you Protecting yourself How do you know you can trust a man who has been caught messaging other women online? You don't know that you can trust them But one thing you can do is see if he's willing to open up that Channel of communication meaning if he's willing to come in and you know Be transparent And bring you in and show you more and let you see his phone You know, let you see his social media be open and transparent with you And so when somebody's doing the wrong thing they typically if they want to make it right they come and they do the opposite And have a open door policy I remember early and me and my wife when we first got together You know, I messaged a young lady on facebook And then later after that I left my computer up. She saw the message And she thought it was, you know, a little too friendly And so after that for me to You know, do the right thing and show her that i'm about her. I just Left my facebook open like just let her see like ain't nothing going on. I ain't really mean nothing And so that's what a person should do It's been almost two years since I broke up with my ex, but I still have random thoughts and dreams about him How do I stop this? You can't stop it You're not gonna be able to stop it. It's just the more you get the do in your life the more you see the more you do You know the more Data you add to your memory bank Then the further you push that away You know, so live life get out join clubs join organizations get going meet new people network talk Make new friends. You just need more data in your brain But that stuff right there.  It doesn't mean that you still care for the person It just could be a smell that you smell It could be a sound that you hear it could be something you see And the brain just associates it because of the memory And it's just how the brain works. So don't really look too deep into it It's just how how your brain works.  I have declined should I find a new barber?  You know what I mean?  She respected herself. She respected her son She respecting this personal environment because it's like, okay, barber. Why are you single?  Everybody got a mama. Why are you still single? Where your woman at? Where your wife at? Where your girlfriend at?  You see what I mean? So you got to read between the line We'll get out. God bless you now Should I stay with my fiance who is really trying to grow he does fall short But he is growing not cheating or anything just not strongly on christ Yeah, I think as long as he's making forward progress then you're going in the right direction You're not going to meet a perfect man. You're not going to meet a man who all the way grown who you know All of that so as long as he going in the right direction And he doing the right thing.  I'm very blunt And I'm 14 years into my marriage and my wife still have to you know, look at me sideways Sometimes if I say something that's too sharp, I don't yell. I don't curse But I still have to you know, watch how I say stuff And because it could it could hurt because You know I'm like that And so when you got that little goon in you You could be like that. And so you have 14 years in marriage. I still have to check myself And so I say that to say none of us are perfect And if you just walking away on everybody Because they're not perfect Even though they're making progress then you'll be single the rest of your life And then the thing about it is you also have to look at yourself and realize that you're not perfect either And so the same way you judge him you could go to another man and then that man judging you By your imperfections and then you like man, I had somebody that accept my flaws But I judge him too harshly now I'm getting judged by my flaws Uh Jimmy god bless you I gotta watch this here time now If you have chemistry and he doesn't ask you on the first date red flag text every day meaningful combos Um Yeah, that's a that's a red flag, but you know, it just depends on how long y'all been talking So If it gets passed like three months Then yeah, it is It's probably a wrap. You ain't going about your business, but If it's still inside of three months, then he could just be taking his time getting to know you And he not out 10 times could be talking to one or two other women getting to know them too And just for the sake of his pockets and not having to spend too much money Going on these dates. He's just doing the free The free way of getting to know somebody My boyfriend dumped me, but I know he's my husband. He says he wants me to focus on myself He's going through a lot and we've been through a lot together. What should I do?   He never tries anything when we are together. He takes me on dates I feel like I should tell him i'm a version before Continued dating further how to tell him should I? Um, I mean he's not trying you so he might already know that he might already assume that Because he's not trying you and he may be as well so You know when what you have to realize and yeah, you could tell me a version if you want to that's just your personal business That's your personal choice But the thing about it is if you telling your version then y'all break up the next day. Are you okay with it? My thing is when you dating somebody don't tell Them anything that you don't that you're not comfortable with them going and announcing in the barbershop That you're not comfortable with them going and telling everybody else that they know That may know you Or them posting it on facebook don't tell any of your business There's somebody that you just starting dating that you really not all the way locked in with If you're not okay with them putting it on the billboard So what you do with what's between your legs? That's really your private business.  It's none of his business Especially if he's not asking you shouldn't just offer up information And to a man a woman being a virgin a good man. He that's actually a great thing. That's an amazing thing and so Whenever he find that out, he's gonna be ecstatic about that.  Well, I'm finna go You see what I mean? So just kind of keep your business to yourself Make sure you put the hashtag q in front of your question. So I can identify If y'all noticed the moderators, uh, thank you to the moderators. God bless y'all. I really appreciate y'all They've been uh, fun. They've been be helping me out, but they delete the messages in the chat. That's not a question So try to make it a little easier for me to see the questions Hubby keeps going to x With kids when we have disagreements comes back and suddenly agrees with me based on what she said and makes changes How to explain this is not okay. He thinks it's helping us Um, sometimes you got to explain things with your actions and not with your words So if he keep going to his ex and keep coming back to you and you keep letting him go to his ex and coming back to you Did nothing you say out your mouth gonna Mean anything to him as long as that door is open So when he got to really know and understand it's like listen Playboy you go over there to that woman again Don't worry about coming back here. Just stay over there and i'm filing for divorce by You got to be by it instead of just you know talking about it because a man don't respect words You know, we we really bop that action with men All the talking really don't mean anything if actions don't follow it up I'm 23. He's 41 long distance perfect dates Says the right things never caught Never calls me and goes days without texting. I ended it. Was I wrong? Uh, no, you were not wrong. You was not wrong Read read that message. You wrote me two or three more times Read that two or three more times. Okay You was not wrong Me or more god bless you Tony i'm taking your advice and stand off my back and men And men are looking at me like i'm crazy, but i've noticed i'm way more focused on my goals. That's a great thing That's a great thing and them looking at you like you crazy is a compliment too Luciana god bless you What should you say when a guy you started talking to ask if you are talking to other guys? um No, just tell him no that you're not talking to other guys because he's just trying to Get intel so that he could not feel bad about if he talking to other women And what he mean by talking to It in his mind is going to mean more than what you mean by You know a man when you tell a man you talking to other guys He assumed that you sleeping with other guys That you sleeping that there's a possibility being a grown woman in this society that you sleeping with Another man or those other men And so You only let when you dating you only let people know business that pertains to them Anything that don't pertain to them Then it's none of their business because anything that you say can and will be used against you in the court of love So you have to be very careful that you're not speaking And just volunteering information that you don't have to give up You got to act like you're in the first 48 because In the society that we in today People ask questions to see how they could get over To see what they could do and so you have to be careful with how you answer these questions And don't be given too much information. That's not being given to you Uh, Stephanie god bless you met on tender Took me Took me out on a date to a nice restaurant was a gentleman Suddenly becomes explicit context nasty movie requests degrading behavior. What does this mean about how he saw me? um You know It could the issue could be with him very much so he could just be nasty He could just be a little perv and That's up for you to understand And there but there are Ways that a woman could come off You know, so if a woman has on jeans and a t-shirt And it could be a nice outfit, you know with some nice shoes some nice tennis shoes Or a woman can have on jeans with some heels or a woman, you know But there is energy That a woman gives off that a woman could give off to a man that says this woman's about business And if I try her the wrong way, I'm liable to get slapped cursed out and she'll never talk to me again So But there are men that regardless of how you present yourself and regardless of how you show up regardless of how you look How classy you look or whatever They're gonna try you just to try you because that's in him And so that's something that only you really could analyze because you know as a woman What kind of energy you give off or what you're going for? So if you're going for sex appeal If you're going for you want to look sexy you want to show your assets, you know meaning Your body part assets then Then you know, you kind of gave us certain energy if you know, that's not what you're going for and you didn't do that Then you know everything it rests solely on him And so you only you can determine if he reading and responding or if he just being who he is Be Jones, he say he need time to himself and he and he was the wrong doer Oh, no, that means the wrong door. Oh, and he was the wrong door And he need time to himself. Um it that means he's not ready to settle down That's all it means. He's just not ready to settle down. He's not ready to be in a relationship He ain't ready to you know tie tubes Like the women say get the tube tie. He ain't ready to Lock it on in on one woman. And so that's all it means he need time to the Do his thing to cheat in peace. Melinda. God bless you now Caramel kisses. God bless you now Caramel She um, she got my cash shop a long time ago And she'd be posting that thing And every now and then somebody will send me a little blessing and that That's because of the moderator caramel Kisses, I appreciate that and the other moderator to be posting a little stuff for me and Helping out really appreciate y'all really do This guy invited me to his bday party haven't talked in four months after I told him not to contact me anymore Why would he invite me if we don't talk? It just you know just circling back just just checking your temperature What should we do about it? Yeah, it's getting rough. You you know what you kind of just got to keep going until you meet somebody who's not into that Because not everybody's into that. So you kind of just you find out early, you know, you could pop that question You find out early and if somebody into it If you're not a therapist that work on addiction then just go on by your business because it is getting it's getting a little crazy D night. God bless you. Hey y'all got to go here in a few minutes You know, I got to go see the moot and space jam with my family And we got tickets for my sister and her kids too And I got to pick up my oldest son before we go So I ain't got number probably a few more minutes on here D night on 42 single no kids fit etc already leveled up Where can I meet men during the daytime without going online to bars or to clubs? to be honest with you men everywhere and What I would recommend too is just kind of is how you're a couple coaching sessions Just to really talk through this thing and see if you're truly ready to see what you're giving off to see If your mind is truly ready in position But and then once you do that It's really just about getting out of the house with intention You know, you go sit in starbucks and do your do your work for a couple hours.  You're speaking you're smiling You know and just just getting out but sometimes We we can't see ourselves and so sometimes we say oh, I'm ready. I'm this and I'm this and I'm this But perception is reality and we don't have to give to see ourselves through the eyes Of others. So that's where a coach will come in. So y'all make sure y'all go into my mentor dot life And um hire you a coach for yourself development If you don't have a coach then you ain't fully developing because because you need to be able to see Through the eyes of somebody else because you may have some blind spots You may have a couple areas that you're missing that you thought you had filled in And so it's worth having a talk or two With somebody outside of you even if it's not a professional somebody that's going to be real with you Kimberly god bless you divorcing my choice and it hasn't been a year and my husband's new girlfriend Is posting them in claims. They're a couple. I feel disrespected if this is a me thing or Is this a real concern? Have three kids.  What do you have going going on? Other than looking at her facebook and so you have to Level up to say, okay She patty he patty he teed on me the whole time.  I have a good time man. Hope you find something to eat today You see so you sitting and you weren't about Old work and you got to worry about you. You got to worry about new work. So she need to be blocked Her facebook shouldn't even be coming across your page. You should not ever be checking her page You shouldn't be checking for him checking for her Focus on you and do you and so and that's what you have to realize So a lot of time to work is just in us I said it god bless you now greatest little high Tony What does it mean in manglish when a man Approach you Shows interest and communicate with you and tell you to call him but doesn't ask for your number Sister I don't even know I don't even know I can't even I can't even tell you I can't even tell you He's uh, he must be listening to that man podcast I can't even tell you about that one sister That he got me he got me confused about that one. I Y'all be going through it A key look God bless your boyfriend. Don't me to focus on himself guilt when I think about dating another man in the future normal I tried my best and did nothing wrong discouraged So it's uh, you got to pick yourself up. Okay, and you got to go on about your business. You can't feel No guilt when the man say he need to focus on himself in manglish what he's telling you is It's me not you But what that really means is it's not us. It means we're not meant to be So hey, don't y'all see no more questions. I got to go I think y'all I'm gonna pop on here a little more and it's gonna be at random time So, you know y'all just have to set your notification bell You know, it'll be on random time. This is random time today. So it's just a few of us But I'll be popping on here Just randomly when I get some time in my day And sometimes if maybe I might do it a couple times in a day. So It'll be different members of the blessed tribe on the different sessions to the moderators. Thank you so much Really, really appreciate you. Um Caramel kids are giving you the blueprint right there if you missing the lives I don't know if share was in here today or glam rock. So mama tish Um, god bless y'all. Thank y'all for being moderators on here We'll talk soon maybe oh, you know what one of my guys got a boxing match tonight on showtime. So y'all tune in on showtime tonight if boxing don't turn your stomach And uh, so I don't think I'll be on the night, but maybe tomorrow. Hopefully lord will We'll talk soon


Thanks for the introduction, yeah, I'm Douglas, I work just down south of Edinburgh first a building, so this is a brilliant opportunity for me to come and talk, so thanks for sticking around on a sunny Friday afternoon. For this talk I'll introduce myself, say what I'm doing here and talk in a case study of the maen nhw'n cynnig y byddwch cymaint, y dylaiwch yn ddechrau'r ysgolwch gwaith o'r cyd-fawr. Mae'r cyd-fawr yn gefnogi'r cyd-fawr. Mae'n gweithio'r ysgolwch yn gwneud yma yn y proses, ac mae'n rhaid i'r projwch gynnig i gael yn y ffugir. Mae'r tîm agosig o'r tîm yn dechrau'r cyd-fawr yn unigol, ac mae gennym i ni'n wneud am y dylau'r ysgolwch. Mae'r ysgolwch yn cymwysgol o'r cyfnodol, Cyngor tyw i'r ffordd a'n deillaf, mae rhai ddim yn dweud i gynig ar ffordd, nid rhai ddyrych yn cyngor y cyfradd nhw, dywed ar gyntaf o mwynhau, ac ydych chi'n ddigonio fe oedd rhai ddweud eich fod yn cyfradd mawr yma a'r ddych chi'n gweithio iddi, rhai ddych ei gydweithio eu cyfrdd hon, a'u meddwl o'r ffordd. Ym rhaid iddo o'i gwybod ar y bol, oherwydd ffordd yn hyfodd yn garwyd i agelwyr, Something so I needed something nice to process the output from it and not so a python came in, I didn't use IDL for a while and then I run away from it like a wildfire. Pythons being much nicer to me so my work is mainly working in my research group. o data rangla person. I've heard of the term the other day research data engineer and maybe I fall into that category but it's just a title isn't it. So I'm somewhere in the middle of all these things hopefully not jack of all trade master of non but could argue that. Right so a beef introduced by air quality now if you saw the keynote this morning this was touched on basically all it is is a measure of how polluted the air we breathe is so air quality and air pollution are used synonymously and interchangeably between people and in this case I'm specifically talking about pollution with direct health effects so nitrogen dioxide ozone particulate matter which is basically just sucked this is not in this case greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide and methane because these effects climb it and not health directly and all these are generally emitted from traffic but also natural sources such as fires and interesting there was actually a fire on Blackford hill which is just near the observatory in Edinburgh yesterday luckily put out by the fire brigade before it got too far maybe it was a stray cigarette or something but you could smell that smoke in central Edinburgh and so that was having impact on the air quality. Just to bring the tone down a bit there's been in the news an awful lot recently a quick Google brings up lots of stories about how this affects your health and impacts it's having and it's pretty horrible and it's becoming more and more in people's forefront of their mind which is a good thing generally however we need to monitor this because just saying it's there or smelling it I mean it doesn't give us much information so what we need is some way to get this monitored air pollution into an accessible form which is where python comes in and this is a little quote up in the top corner that I heard a talk yesterday by someone called Alex Jacob but I thought it was perfect data only has value when it's relevant and that's so true because you get a number from a monitoring station and it is meaningless to most people who cares if ozone down the road is 300 what does that mean but to make that measurement into something useful you need to spend time and energy gathering the data knowing where it is processing it and putting it in a form you know and to most people this is daunting because they don't have the right skillset they let them know to look even people with the skillset it's time wasting so the reason I kind of started this job is because my boss wanted to free up some of his time when he's writing grants he doesn't want to spend a day trying to plot this air quality somewhere he wants a quick easy thing so he can do it in half a minute and get on with the rest of his day basically and the thing with these this hurdle in the way is for most people it's too much it's you know if it's outside out of mind I don't want to bother with that so what we need is something to combine this data collection the gathering of it the analysis and then visualize it in a way people can understand so ideally a set of tools that anybody can use and that are accessible and understandable by anybody and the idea of ideally you want a tool that can be used from anyone anyone school children to academics that is a broad range of people but you know it's an ambition and so the solution is why we're all here python and finally get on to python since we're here and so first steps first is getting the data now this has been earth not too bad for this so I'm getting for this case study I'm using air quality data from DEFRO which is a UK department government department currently owned by Michael Gove I don't know what that's good or bad but and there are over 150 sites currently working in the UK has maybe another 200 that have been previously working have been shut down for various reasons and these each take hourly measurements of all sorts of various pollutants so there's an awful lot to deal with especially since summer been going back since 1975 so there's a lot of measurements but on the grand scheme of things actually all the measurements have ever taken it only adds up to a few gigabytes so it's not big data but it's messy and annoying and hidden away and um is there but yeah not many people use it so these is a little plot of where all the stations are spread across the UK the nearest one to us here is just by Arthur's seats this is a picture of the one in Edinburgh it's a green box there um and you'll be glad to know that Edinburgh is generally pretty good according to this for air pollution however you've got to consider things that was alluded to in the keynote this morning that this air quality station is right next to a park it's set away from the road and if you're not a busy area at all you start putting one of these outside the road outside and you get a completely different picture so there are all these stations scattered around the UK and annoyingly Defford doesn't have a nice neat spreadsheet where they all are like a list CSV file longitude so I need to find every bit of information about these sites so I can start using them properly and usefully um so talking about coordinates how long they've been going for what pollutants they measure um codes you know like the european site codes they have all these sort of thing um and this is where python finally comes in is data scraping which has been an incredibly useful tool and I've been using beautiful soup which is a great module for passing out hgml code so it's basically putting your request there a web page from h from using python request um put it into beautiful soup and it passes it all out for you and you can search for bits of you want so you say all right for this site Aberdeen print in there give me all the bits of information you've got about it and you get a nice table out and although Defford have been great and you could email them and ask for this sort of information this is a very quick method of getting a lot of information you need and although on the website each one of these sites has its own web page so you have to go on look go on look you can do that in a loop no problem like just flick through them all so now I've got all these sites I need to get the pollution data from them and again this is another thing that is not made easy by the government but every site has its data available in a cv that you can just csv so you can just go to a particular url and it's there however you need to know that url and that's not available I managed to get that by finding someone else's code who does some work with them a couple of years ago going through their r code finding the url that they use and so it's a simple task if you know the url the problem is you need to know the site code and the year so each web page so for instance Edinburgh the site code is ed3 if you want 2018 you'd have to use those this data is not any useful structure you want data from 2018 in Edinburgh great it's all there you want specifically carbon monoxide from the past five years from Edinburgh Aberdeen and Glasgow say you're talking about 15 web pages there which are their own information in a lot of which is useless to you because you only have to carbon monoxide say not nitrogen or whatever but it's there and it's available and that's good we have some data to play with so the next step is analysis which is the fun bit that I enjoy and of course I use pandas however I am ashamed to say I came to pandas quite late in the game I was quite stubborn in the terms of everything I'd use just use numpy and that worked so why bother changing anything else however just a quick google of oh I want to read this CSV off a web page what's a quick way of doing that pandas is easy oh I'll try that one line oh that was easy oh that's a nice data frame in a time series oh this is really nice and I wish I'd spent a couple of hours maybe a couple of years ago spending a matter of how to learn teach myself pandas and I would say to myself I don't even want to think about how much time but it's a bit of a lesson in don't be so stubborn in your code of use things like filtering or resampling are such powerful tools in pandas and making so quick it is fantastic and there are also great tutorials on documentation out there you know any and I'd say stack overflow which I basically owe my phd to is full of pandas that it's just you know want to do anything pandas pandas pandas so we've got this data in pandas we can do all sorts to it I guess the next step is we want to visualize it and I use plotly now for a long time I use matlab which has been great but then I discovered plotly and this provides very simple ways this is a very small snippet of code that'll make that graph on the side that's all you need and it'll make you an interactive plot that has features like hover and zoom and you can change colors really easily and if you're thinking about interacting with people having something that they can change they can manipulate or not manipulate the data but you know make how they want to see it becomes a lot more interactive and a lot more personal instead of just having a static graph there that's showing you whatever you want to show and it's great because it makes things incredibly simple these are three I mean there's what they are isn't important but you can make very simple plots are you subplots things any bar plots wind roses so that's more to do a wind rose there are a few modules out there now that do it but plotly it just seems miles above the rest so so far I'm in comfortable territory for me this is what I've done for best part of six years I'd say it's some sort of data analysis for something however the next step for me is putting it online this is going very much into the unknown and doing something like this really highlights how you can think you know about python and then you really don't um after a little google and search around I went with Django it seemed like a good framework it's a huge framework has lots of documentations and lots of tutorials which is great but also a little daunting because somebody's never used this before it's like oh god but I'd say there's lots of tutorials and I know it's not aimed at me but I'd find that Django's girls tutorials on how to set up a website using Django is great for anybody starting off with this I know there are other frameworks out there and a lot of this is very much of an uncertain light I'll try it I'll see I don't know if this is the right thing for me but I'm going to go with it and see how far it goes and especially with Django it seemed it's very popular it's you know lots of documentation tutorials but it's not really designed as far as I could tell for the sort of websites I want to make it's mainly focused on blogs and that sort of thing but give it a go and I might be preaching to the choir here but basically Django for you you'll easily create a lot of files for you in a template and these files include things like urls.py which is a list of the website URLs you want to be called so your actual website name goes in there and then it calls this use.py which processes things and renders web pages and then model it just sets out this thing for you which as a beginner in a website but yeah pythonic websites it's it's ideal you know it click and play basically and then you can start spending the next couple of weeks breaking it day after day so again yeah you can type in your website by the way this is the name of the website but heads to urls.py which says to views.py hey this person wants to visit this website do something which then says to the southern module models.py they want something from this website process some data get something from a database do something and then they'll find here you go it's back to views.py and then that mixes that it renders it with some html and css and it makes yourself a pretty website and hey presto the website is born now this is very simple static website at the moment with some buttons on you can click but it was fairly simple to do that and python you know the amount of tutorials out there and python really helps that but as I say Django is a great framework but for what I wanted to do which was lots of people interact with this website change graphs play with them it's not I found the easiest thing to do to create multiple instances or interact with pages especially without reading scary words like JavaScript so I discovered along with plotly who do nice graphs they something do something called dash which is another framework and this is taken straight from their website says they build analytical web applications with no JavaScript required so that's two thumbs up from me and then this is built on their JavaScript to react flask and it ties it in so you can have interactive things like drop down sliders graphs whack that with your analytical code and you can make something that looks good pretty easily and I thought this is ideal so dash creates these apps which could be standalone websites by themselves in my case it's not and I'll explain a little bit later every time a website's loaded a new app instance created so you get one per user they do what they want it doesn't affect anybody else each app layout also each app has like a layout because basically in python you say I want this than this I want a drop down menu then I want some descriptive statistics I want a plot I want a selection menu you can click all that and then you click them and it calls these callbacks which are python decorators for functions so you click this and this decorator goes oh someone's said they wanted uh this colour bar to be yellow changed this and it sends it back and updates the page and it's brilliant so with a bit of wrangling amounts to put my dash up in my original dango framework with a lot of help of people and forums um so dango framework sort of holds everything together and dash up is inside that and that was all the hard work basically they get the data processing it displaying uh quickly on the website except if it wants to yeah great I'll just type it in maybe so you end up with something that's not showing on this screen that's great so this is a simple website it's not that pretty to look at it's a work in progress but dash providing so this is a selection tool to get some data you might want so we can go so define it by region let's say central scotland since we're here and I want all urban sites just carry the all it's thinking it's this is using a quite a cheap serve at the moment so you have to and eventually when that's finished spinning around it selects all the sites that are in central scotland that are counted as urban so you can click head and percent lennards which is the nearest one will stick with the uh with a time series select any variables they use let's look at nitrogen dioxide click submit now this is calling the data and plotting it up and this is all that and so this is what's good about dash is you can hover hover data get different points you can zoom in to look at more points um you can download it if you want let's reset the axis and with dash as well so you can make these interactive things you click weekly and this is saying all right someone wants to resample this data every week and it goes there and it says there's a pandas module that easily does that just resample week um or you want to stick it in a line graph instead um and you can just add more plots onto these so we have say histogram which you can uh change a number of bins to 50 if you'd like um this is a example of the average concentration over one day so it's taken all the time series and saying oh look there's a whole day there basically we can split that into weekdays so monday tuesday etc and you can see peaks at rush hour um so as all these really useful tools uh and makes a nice play website a website you can play with sorry problem is there's too much data really um it's time to use the database previously that that website was calling the defra website every time someone put in a request it out on this much and it's going off that's said before with the way they've structured their data this is just not feasible um it's calling it every time it's fine for a small amount of data it won't really take more than a second maybe but as soon as you start getting decent amounts it's taken a very long time and eventually it's going to crash so better better data management's needed and that's where jango comes back into its own again so using jango it's really simple to integrate a sequel database into it and i basically just copied all the data defra had and waxed it on this database which now jango calls it leaves defra alone sort of because it needs constant updates defra updates every day i'd just have a worker post in the background saying oh it's morning go collect some new data bring that down and now any combination of millions of data points is available you want every three o'clock on a wednesday outside abidine brilliant you'll do it for you no problem so that's the way it's out at the moment and it is still early days but it's been a good learning curve and there are developments that like to do this there are many many bug fixes that need to be done it's quite easy to go on that web page and break it it doesn't work on a mobile for instance it doesn't really work on internet explorer um but you know it's a work in progress i'd like to integrate more data with it so more stations a lot of european stations and a lot of council stations this picture here is a new sensor for co2 even though i said i wasn't talking about it but we could include it um on top of blackford hill the observatory there so that data could be available soon um talking about satellite data and models although then you're going from gigabytes for entire decades to terabytes per day so your data management starts going a lot more uh interesting i suppose and also to get more feedback from any users you know the people who are using this is actually useful i've made some plots but what you know i've showed you simple ones what would be really useful you know comparisons against different things so that's where we're out at the moment and i started to finish with lessons i've learned from doing this um and sort of going into the unknown the first one is just jumping i spent a long time being like no that doesn't quite fit what i'm doing and that's but you'll never find the perfect tutorial and it's best to start with something that's very imperfect and build it up than trying to find you know wasting your time trying to find something that's better and in that sense be adaptable i started with jango it didn't quite work what i wanted i went with dash i looked at some other things i went back to jango you know there's no point belligerently sticking with things and so don't be scared to make the wrong choices i started a lot of websites like this is just not right so it's not what i wanted but i'm very proud to just sit in there to let my thumbs in or what i'm going to do but take your time to learn new things in my case pandas is uh what i would have learned but you know i suppose that's okay isn't any walk of life not just python don't get bogged down by the little things i found with rightness website that i found it a lot better to quickly do something that makes you feel like you've achieved a lot and then you can be like all right i'll play with the colors of the bar plot later or the spacing that doesn't really matter right now what i want is to get something going and get excited about it but in that mind keep an eye on what you're trying to do because um you end up sort of getting again looking at these small things and be like well what is that i'm trying to do is this is spending a week going over this this bit of code is going to re-sample actually useful for anyone or is it just something i want to do also don't reinvent the wheel and this might be a case for academics especially because i know people myself included are always hesitant to use the people's code because it's always a bit scary putting your faith in results that is almost a black box you're like here's put this data into a python module or a website and it comes out the other side what's it going to show if you know what it does step by step that's good but you're going to waste a lot of time doing that and at some point you've got to trust people you can't redo everything and lastly go for a walk take time i've found if i get stuck that's the best way to do it really just go out and especially with air quality if i go outside and it smells and better do something about that so that's me thanks for listening and more tech problems isn't it i've not planned on being but i'm living Edinburgh so i could be i don't know what i've not looked at what sprints are i could just repeat the question back if yeah so he asked if i was out the out the sprints yeah yeah so that question if you didn't hear was about using data from a Scottish Government and in Edinburgh and Friends of the Earth have lots and yeah there's so much data to be used out there deffra is just a starting block but i've a few friends who work at the Scottish Environmental Protection Agency specifically looking at air quality and they have a lot more stations available and stuff but now i'd love to use it yeah and more the better in terms of educating as in say i say with Edinburgh you go on the deffra website and look that's going to show you it's fine but sometimes it's not you know past few years sorry that um the local monitoring stations in Scotland are lots of them are placed along roads and um Scotland's been breaking legal limits um along these and so that this is the motivation behind trying to better monitor better check these results and visualize them so i'll i'll speak to you later but um if you i mean yeah more data the better i'll put your judge thanks thanks for a great talk um are they do you know like so if you're using data from various different sources um like you were just saying um do you think that the what you collect from different types of stations will be comparable with each other will there be sort of like technical variations in those do you there is a problem with that so things to be directly comparable people argue so different types of instruments might have different calibration things and you saw the example went on the website briefly you can select it by different environment so Edinburgh is considered urban background but you might get urban um traffic which is on a road or and these things i mean you can say one's more so than the other they're not as that directly comparable um you can't do it easily but it's doable there are ways around it but yeah it's not just this number versus this number basically there was another yeah this is the last question uh it is open source and yes i would accept a request it is a mess right now last quick question and this is a question from friends of friends so this is a real case that the parents of the primary school they they are convinced that the the error around the primary school and the air quality is bad for the children but then however they don't have a way of convincing that the local authority local council to say the air quality that is really bad for that so do you have any suggestions or any two kids that for as a citizen of the or the parents of the school can use it and to collect it and then convince the authorities to say this is a problem um it's difficult because there are a lot of people that think that and i would argue rightly so there are lots of groups uh i know from university side and i imagine there are from commercial sides as well that are actually looking for uh ways to test their instruments and gather data so there's one recently um from the University of Birmingham here that they did a study around schools in uh within Birmingham so they brought some monitoring stations and it wasn't didn't cost the school anything didn't cost parents anything it was it was a research project done by Birmingham but then they fed it into the community and got the community involved and showing and their results actually put a no traffic zone around their local school um so there are there are out that they are out there unfortunately i don't do anything directly measurement wise um i could write down a few places you might be able to look afterwards okay that's uh all the time we have a lot of it so let's thank the speaker