Today, I want to clear up a little bit of confusion about the shells on Linux because you see this all the time. Any time a discussion comes up about, hey, what's your favorite shell on Linux or hey, what shell are you using on Linux? You know, people will talk about shells like Bash and Fish and ZSH and Corn Shell, KSH, C Shell. You've got all these various shells that are available to use on Linux should you choose to use them. But invariably, anytime there's a discussion of which shell do you use or which shell is your favorite, somebody will respond with, I use slash bin slash SH or sometimes they'll just abbreviate it. I use the SH shell, right? And SH is not an actual shell. SH is not an actual program at all. SH is actually just a link. It's an alias essentially. It's a link to whatever happens to be the default shell on your system. That's all SH is. SH is not an actual program. So when you say, I run SH, that is kind of meaningless. That doesn't really tell the user what your default shell actually is. So let me switch over to my desktop and I'm going to go ahead and launch a terminal and I'm going to zoom way in. So let's talk about the shells that are available on your system. How can you figure out what shells are available on your system? So you can do a CHSH, that's the change shell command and give it the dash L flag for list all the available shells on the system and you will have some duplicates because you will have binaries in both slash bin and slash user bin. But typically you want the slash bin versions and you can say I have slash bin slash bash. So I have the bash shell available. If I want to set that to my default user shell, I also have a ZSH available slash bin slash ZSH and I also have slash bin slash fish. So I have bash fish ZSH available. If I want to set my user shell to one of those, that's fine. You can really change your default user shell to anything. The default user shell doesn't matter. Now the default system shell. Now that's the shell that is the default for your systems root user. Now that I strongly urge you just to leave that alone. Now to find out what your user's default shell is, there's a couple of different ways you can do this. First, you can just echo dollar sign shell all caps and that is the default shell for the user you're currently logged into. Now that's not necessarily the shell that you're currently running. I could be running the bash shell right now and if I do echo dollar sign shell, it's still going to return slash bin slash fish because that is my user's default shell. That's when he opens a terminal or drops to a TTY, he defaults to being an official but if I switch over to bash for example and do echo shell even though I'm in the bash shell, the echo shell command is still going to give me slash bin slash fish even though that's not the shell I'm currently running. Another way you can get the default shell for your user or for all users on the system really is you could just cat a file. I could cat the slash etsy slash pass wd file if I can type it correctly and that lists all the users on the system. It's a very convoluted file. All the values are separated with colons but you can see the very first user is the root user and his default graphical system is the X11 graphical system. His default directory on the system is slash root. His default shell on the system is slash bin slash bash. That's what all those values mean. If I wanted to find my user and I could scroll down here and let's find the DT user. Here is DT. You can see his user ID is 1000. His home directory is slash home slash DT and his default shell is slash bin slash fish. So now I know the default system shell on my system is bash. The default user shell is fish. But let's talk about the confusion that comes with SH. People claiming that their shell is slash bin slash SH or their shell is just SH, the SH shell, right? Well, let's do a where is SH. So where is gives you the location to the binary for a particular program. So where is SH tells me that the binary for SH is in user bin slash user slash bin slash SH. Well, let's see the over to slash user slash bin. Let's do an LS and if I do an LS, there's a million binaries in slash user slash bin. So let me up arrow and do an LS and let's grip for SH. And now the list is much smaller. Let me scroll up to where SH is in the list. And here it is, user bin SH. You can see it's not really a program. It's not really a file itself because if you look at the read, write, execute permissions, RWX, RWX here at the very front of the permissions you have an L that signifies that that's really a link to another file, another program, right? So that's a link. SH is not a program itself. It is simply linking to bash, right? It just redirects to user bin bash, right? That's all that does so. Now let's talk about changing your default user shells and your default system shell. I recommend never changing the default system shell. So on GNU slash Linux systems, the default system shell is universally the de facto is bash. It's bash 99.9% of the time the root user and the default system shell on a GNU slash Linux system is the bash shell. And I wouldn't change that because all your developers for your Linux distribution, they expect bash and what they know bash is the default shell. So they're writing a lot of shell scripts with bash in mind. They're using bashisms, right? They're writing using the full power of the bash scripting language because bash is a much more complete, feature complete scripting language than just POSIX compliant shell scripting. So why not use it? And especially when you know it's going to be there on the system. So a lot of your scripts on a Linux system kind of expect bash to be there. So don't change the default system shell from bash. And I really wouldn't remove bash from the system either. That's sometimes people do that and because so many scripts are going to have slash user slash bin slash env bash as the shebang in the script, meaning the script needs to execute with bash in mind, find bash on the system and run this script with bash is what that shebang means. And if you don't have bash installed, it's going to have a problem running that script, right? So don't change the default system shell and definitely don't remove bash from the system. But your user shell, you absolutely can change that. No harm, no foul, you can change your default user shell, my DT user. I can change his shell to whatever. And there's really no chance of me doing any kind of permanent damage or getting into a situation where things are completely messed up. So to change your default user shell, you might need a sudo privileges. But I'm not sure if you could do this without sudo privileges, but it's the change shell command. And instead of dash L for list all the shells dash S for set. And then I could do slash bin slash bash because right now my default shell is slash bin slash fish. So if I wanted to change the DT user's default shell from fish to bash, that's how I would do it. Or if I was already defaulting to bash and I wanted to change to ZSH, that would change my default shell to ZSH. Meaning every time the DT user would open a terminal, it should default him to that default shell. So if it happened to be bash, I would default to bash. If it happened to be fish, I would default to fish. Now I didn't change my shell, so I'm in the fish shell right now. So let me clear the screen here. Let's talk about Echo shell, the limitations of that. Now Echo shell will give you what your current user's default shell is, but that does not actually tell you what shell you're currently running. So I demonstrated that earlier. How would you determine what shell you are currently running? Well, let me switch over to the bash shell. For most shells that are posits compliant, kind of posits compliant, things like bash, things like ZSH, you can simply do a echo dollar sign zero. And it should return the name of the shell. So echo dollar sign zero, if I run that inside bash, you can see I get bash. If I switch over to the ZSH and do echo dollar sign zero, it returns ZSH. Now let me exit out of ZSH back to the bash shell that I was previously in. You could also run this command ps. Now this is the processes command. Give it dash p and then look for the process dollar sign, dollar sign. So it's basically find the shell name. Find a process named after the shell that we're currently running, I think it's essentially what that expands to. But you can see it runs the ps command and it finds the line that includes bash because I was in the bash shell. Now if I was in the ZSH shell, ZSH, it would find the line that contained ZSH. I can demonstrate that. So we'll switch over, do ps dash p, dollar sign, dollar sign. And now it's going to find the line that contains ZSH. So it gives me the process ZSH. And that pretty much tells you that hey, we're running ZSH as our shell right now. Now if I exit out of ZSH, exit out of bash, I should be back in the FISH shell. Let me do a echo dollar sign zero in the FISH shell. Nothing is returned. So the FISH shell is a little different. It's different than most other shells. So the echo dollar sign zero command does not work. Also the ps dash p double dollar sign command does not work in the FISH shell. I can demonstrate that as well. And you can see the FISH shell just complains about that command. But the good thing with the FISH shell is it gives you an idea of what the problem is. It tells you hey, dollar sign, dollar sign is not the process ID of the shell that you're currently logged into. Not in FISH. In FISH, they have their own variable for that. And that is dollar signed FISH underscore PID. Process ID. Oh, well thank you FISH shell for telling me that. Now that I know the proper variable, instead of the two dollar signs, just do a single dollar sign FISH underscore PID. And there you go. And you can see we get the process for the FISH shell, meaning I'm currently running the FISH shell. That would also work for echo instead of dollar sign zero. You could do FISH underscore PID. It won't return FISH as the name, but the fact that you get the process ID for the variable FISH PID, right? That would also give you a clue that hey, right now you're running the FISH shell. So that's just a little bit about the shells that are available to you on your GNU slash Linux system. And again, I just wanted to clear up some of that confusion as far as, you know, your default user shell, your default system shell, and the fact that yes, there is a binary SH that links to the default system shell on all Unix-like operating systems. But SH is not an actual shell. It's not an actual program. All that is is a link to whatever shell happens to be the default on that system. And again, on 99.9% of GNU slash Linux systems, SH is simply a link to the bash shell. On the BSD operating systems, it's probably a link to either KSH or TCSH. Now before I go, I need to thank a few special people. I need to thank the producers of this episode. And of course, I'm talking about Gabe James, Matt Paul, Steve West, Arkotic, Armor Dragon, Commander, Angry, George Lee, Matthew Methos, Nate Erion, Paul, Peace, Archimator, Realities for Less Red, Profit, Rolling, Soul, Astray, TNRen, Tools, Debbler, Warranty, N2N, Ubuntu, and Willie, these guys. They're my high-steered patrons. 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hammers, but the solar technical expert can help us figure out where we're likely to have wetlands and when something is proposed, if something is proposed, wetlands have to be mapped before you can get a permit to do anything. Okay.  And I don't know if you know Harvey Allen who grew up here. I just thought like someone should just give him a map and say, where are these things? Cause he's been walking this for, you know, 80 years and stuff like that. So that seems really key to me in terms of information. I don't know if I live in a particularly damp area. I think we all feel this way, you know, but it does. So that, that's interesting to me, but it'd be good to, I think it'd be great to see the farm soils map or, you know, have the forest been mapped or I guess those are maps of the. I want to say the water protection proposed water protection districts. So that must be some, I just, I would love some maps and just information to kind of mull Amherst. Also, I also, what are UMass and Amherst college doing? Like that would be seen really important too. Their plans or what, what they're thinking about, because they're, they're half the battle here. Okay. Thank you, Janet. Thanks, Doug.  The moratorium has like is voted down to some extent, the market will decide. That being said, I do think that this decade. Is a critical decade for clean energy implementation in America. And I think the degree to which we need to scale up renewables is going to be jarring to a lot of people in America. And I think the more that we as a town can have a road map. For how we want to be part of the clean energy transition. The more that will make that transition less jarring. And so for that reason, I think the idea of the siting study is an is an important one. And like Chris, I think your idea of a zoning overlay is an elegant one. And then I don't quite know where this happens, but I think we also need to have a conversation about permitting. And streamlining the permitting process. So that proposals that are kind of in accordance with the plan can move relatively quickly and not get bogged down in red tape. Okay. And I have some ideas about that, but I don't think this is necessarily the time or the place for that. Thank you, John. Tom. All right, I'll be brief. I think I'm kind of on the fence to somewhere between, I think with Jack and your honor saying, and I, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that we can say where we want solar and where we might not want solar, but we don't determine where solar goes unless it's on Amherst property. Amherst owned property. It goes on private property and people have to. So we can say we want all of it over here, but nobody over there wants to pay for it. So then what do we do? Oh, then we can't meet the demands that we need to get to our climate action goals, right? Because we're saying, no, we only like it here and we can't touch this and we can't touch that. So I think we need to be really careful about. How precious we are about these spaces when it's mapping, because we're not in charge of it. We're only, we need to set like, I don't know, this is a random number, but if, you know, we set a certain area, it's only likely that maybe five, three to five percent of that is actually going to get developed, not 60 years. 80. And therefore we're not going to get close to our goals. So we have to understand that there's limitations in ownership, but we're not in control of where these things are installed. Unless we're incentivizing. Those places here. Here's 10%, 20% discount. We're going to pay for it from Amherst funds to put it in this place and not that place. Otherwise, I think we're just shutting down our capacity to get it. So I think we have to be really careful about why we're turning down certain areas and how we're using this study. Going forward. So anyway, this is my thought. So I think I'm somewhere in between. I think it needs to happen. But I think if we use it too strictly as a guide for what's good and what's bad, I think we lose the opportunity to get to where we need to go as a. As a town. All right, thanks, Tom. I guess I'll sort of echo that. I think we ought to be. We ought to end up with a bylaw that says where we absolutely do not want solar. And everywhere else. You know, we'll go through whatever permit process makes sense. And we, we are open to solar everywhere else. But, you know, no wetlands. No critical habitat with. You know, endangered species and everything else. We'll talk. Jam it. I just wanted to sort of, you know, one of the things that could come out of the solar assessment is like how much. Can we produce locally?  Purview too. It's like, we may decide to buy into a solar field in another town or to, you know, like they're the decision. If we do a community aggregation. Plan. That's when all these towns get together and they purchase green energy from different sources. So it does. I don't, I think we, I just kind of don't want to, I don't want to say no solar and Amherst. Of course we should do that. But we don't have to produce all our energy on this land base that we're on. We could, there could be different choices. The town is making that might be more economical. Or easier or whatever. And I don't want to push the large facility problem on to another town, but there, there, I don't think we know where we are. You know, where we're going without this kind of longer view, but I don't think we have to have solar. We have to produce all our energy. Green energy by solar. It could be, you know, through the ground, it could be from other towns. It could be wind power.  Maybe people will reduce their energy use, you know, more. But I do think it would be great to say these are sort of no fly zones for solar facilities. Because the values of this land is higher. And then here are the places that it can go. And then we may need incentives or, you know, low, no interest loan programs to encourage landowners to put that in, you know. Okay. Thanks, Janet. Chris. We've had it. We've, we're having a discussion about solar. I see that it's 20 of 10. And so I'm starting to feel like how long do we want to go this evening? We can stop now. You and I didn't really talk about what the, what we wanted out of this discussion. It sounds like you're thinking we should be. Kind of continue to educate ourselves, but not taking definitive steps on drafting anything. Until at least the working group is a part of the discussion. I think we can stop now. Yeah. You and I didn't really talk about what the, what we wanted out of this discussion. I think we can start drafting something. But I don't think we're going to. Get it finalized or adopted until after. We've. Done. We've gone through the solar side assessment. So I'm happy to start drafting something. And yeah. Is that something you would have time for? I will, but not. Let's see. Yeah. So I wanted to report to you on what's upcoming. Okay. Well, what. So that, that could be under, um, report of staff. So. Yeah. We'll come back to that. Yeah. So I will fit it in with my other things, but I can't promise it on a particular date. Okay. All right. Uh, Jack. So I'm just wondering if, uh, You know, based on your recommend recommendation there, Doug, can we kind of scale back a little bit on the, on the. Assessment part of this. With regard to just like.  As, as no, you know, Solar, you know, restrictions versus like. Favorable. I just feel like, again, there's, there's. Just wondering what your. Tactic is. Well, I mean. I think I agree with your Hanna that. The town is going to now expects to be doing a solar by law. A solar. Survey. Or assessment or whatever. And that's probably not a bad thing to help get buy in and. You know, agreement and acceptance of wherever we end up. Um, nobody's, you know, nobody's pressing us to do something in the next month or two. Um, so maybe we should turn our attention to some of the other priorities and spend a little time on those. Um, you know, that was the third, third item on this agenda. For, for, you know, on this particular topic for this evening. I'm not sure I want to spend very much time on it now, but. You know, we could certainly spend more time on it next time and not talk so much about solar. Yeah. I think that's good. Um, Andrew. Yeah, I'll try to keep the brief. I'm just wondering from that assessment perspective. Um, I mean, I know that, you know, solar companies have their own sort of websites where you enter your address and it sort of assesses the quality of it. Is that. Is that something that. You know, might be made available. Like, I don't know if that's something that we could maybe reach out to a company and say, we're, we're trying to do this. And would you be willing to. Share that information. I think. To me, the assessment piece that I think what. I think the important part is that like there's. We should be putting solar in the best locations, not just in any location. And I imagine that you'll get much better officials. In those best locations. So. I think, I think it puts us on a path to. More effectively meeting goals. Then just kind of a buckshot. Everybody can. Could put. Something wherever they want. Um, so just, just that thought. And then I would, uh, I would echo. I think what everybody else said in terms of the. The no fly zone idea. I think it's just. Makes a ton of sense. And also, I think it's important to. Important signal to, you know, the market. Then we are hoping. Okay. Thanks, Andrew. Janet. I, I actually, I'm starting to think about like practical steps. And I think we could put together what I think of it as like an outline or a skeleton of a bylaw. And, um, you know, like different provisions and maybe living the numbers blank or saying, you know, This town has this provision and we might want to do it. So I could sort of seeing doing like a very broad outline. So you're ready when, when decisions are made, or you're kind of considering taking with language or looking at other examples. So I could see how that could progress. Alongside. This I'm sort of trying to figure out that you go forward with that. So that's it. Thanks, Janet. Jack, I'll just mention. I see a couple of public comment. Hands. So. Go ahead, Jack. Again, I apologize.  So I just want to speak, you know, with regard to. You know, just from a technical standpoint, I have, I have a great Southern facing roof. And I have solar panels on there. And so when we talked about efficiency. I've got it. And it really is only. Like a, a fractured roof. I've got it. And it really is only. Like a, a fraction of the equation because. We got weather. We got clouds. We got temperature. We've got, you know, so when we, you know, we're talking about the optimal sort of location. Again, I think we've got a scale back because most. Land, whatever it is, is going to be great for solar. Okay. We're not killing. It's just. I just had to say that. All right. Because it's just a fact. And then there's another point, but I can't really remember. Well, why don't we go to have a couple of public comments and then we can come back to board comments. And maybe close this one out. Let's start with Steve roof. Why don't you give us your name and your address. And Pam will run the three minute timer. Steve roof here live in 1680 Southeast street in Amherst. I'm also a member of the ECAC. And I guess my main. First of all, great conversation. You guys are asking a lot of great questions and. Really good discussion here. But I would like to suggest that in terms of drafting a bylaw that you hold off. Until this committee can get formed. My understanding from Stephanie reporting to us last week is that this is the last version of it that I heard of. There's going to be a public committee. It would have very diverse representation on it. And I think a lot of the questions that you've been struggling here. You know, I think a lot of the people that are positions on that committee could help with those questions that you're struggling with. I think a lot of different perspectives would come in. And I think particularly some of us from the ECAC could answer questions about the purpose and the value of a solar study. Solar assessment. And perhaps even convince Jack that it would be worth doing. I think it is because I think we need to know what, how much land we have available. What different kinds of land are available. And then we have to begin to rank those, depending on how much solar we might want. In the next 30 years, we might have to start ranking those lands from the best to the worst. And who knows how far down the list from the best, we might end up needing to use over the next 30 years. Some of those questions are. I don't know if you can convince me. I just want to say Steve convinced me right there. So thank you.  And those are going to have to go out to the community. And I think as Stephanie just described that this committee would be putting together a lot of the factual basis. And then the technical expertise. And our own expertise would then bring that to the public for public. Discussion to come to those values. I'm not sure how much energy we need in town. I'm not sure how much energy we need in town. I'm not sure how much energy we need in town. And others are saying, you know, how much do we need? Do we feel we need? How much solar or how much renewable energy do we feel we need in town? So those are really important to get those value judgments from the community, but supported by strong technical evidence. So looking forward to much more conversation and development on this. And I think. I think it's a great opportunity. I think it's a great opportunity. I think it's a great opportunity. I think it's a great opportunity. I think it's a great opportunity. Conservation Commission. Watershed Protection Committee. Expert that I think someone who's worked to the solar industry, not in the solar industry, but has worked with it. Forest ecologist. I think is slated to be on that. So. Don't do too much work on drafting a bylaw, especially if you're using other towns, restrictive approach. Until we have a chance to think more about it. Thank you, Steve. All right. Our next public commenter is Kathleen Bridgewater. Why don't we bring her over and if you could give us your name and your address and keep your comments under three minutes. Hi, I'm Kathleen Bridgewater. I live at on shootsbury road. And I'm really excited about this discussion that's been going on tonight. I think it's a great opportunity. I think it's really trying to get into the weeds and find out what some of the problems are. I am part of the group of smart solar Amherst. And we have been working on these issues for two years. And, and unfortunately, we certainly have a conflict of interest by being neighbors. On the other hand, we also have collected a lot of data. And, and although we don't have. A lot of the data is in ecology or water issues. We have done a lot of reading, including of the companies who are doing solar work, solar. Development and what they have done all over the country and in our region. So I think that some of the things that the Palmer people were talking about is more. A lot of the things that we have done in the past. I think it's much more in the case than not that very often, unless you're down in South Carolina and some, some flat cotton field. Where there is no danger of runoff or. Nearby houses and wells and things of that sort. Things get pretty simple in those places, but even there up there and in Wisconsin. So I think that's a good idea. I'm going to go back to the, to the question of water. Groundwater being polluted. I hope I'm going to get more than three minutes because you've said so many things that I'd like to respond to them. I want to start with who's going to be on this working committee. And I'm going to personally. Object to the idea that Sarah Matthews, who is the lawyer for most of the. Many of these solar. Residents should be on any committee in mass, in Amherst to make decisions or to have a vote. The idea that the Fox and. I just do want to let you know, I would like you to stay under three minutes. Okay. Well, I think that this, this committee and other committees such as ecac and such as the town council have a fiduciary responsibility to the town. And to the residents. We don't have a responsibility to the soul solar developers who really are there to make money. They don't care if there is a, a fertile farm or a forest that is, is doing a great job of sequestering carbon. That's not their issue. Their issue is give us some place where we can put down these, these panels, and we can make some kind of quick pilot agreement with a town so that we can get a lot of money and have to spend as little as possible. The amount of money they're going to have to do, for instance, on the shoots very road to go and put in that the connectivity, the electric can connectivity to the substation and to upgrade the substation, they're going to be putting in a lot of money and they are putting in a lot of money because they expect to make a lot of money. Their issue is not about saving the planet. Their issue is about making their, their, their stockholders happy. They are a money making organization, all of them. And some of them do a better job than others. So it is our responsibility as a town to make sure that we are protecting our resources and following through on our values. And just because it might take a little bit longer, I think we have to be very, very cautious.  And everybody has made deals with people, you know, Sarah Matthews comes to mind. She's one of the people who have real conflicts of interest. As a concern solar. And she's, thank you. Chris, I see your hand. I don't see any more public comment. I just wanted to let people know that they don't have to say everything that they want to say tonight. There'll be plenty more times for people to talk to the planning board and talk to the ECAC and talk to this committee. So we'll be having lots of public meetings. So just be reassured that you'll have a lot of opportunity to say your, your piece. Thanks Chris. All right. So maybe we can. Close that topic for tonight. So the next item we had on the list was to talk about some of our other. Zoning priorities for 2022. Chris, I see you included the. The revised list from the planning department. Anything you wanted to say about that briefly. We're continuing to revise this list. And, you know, I really, I think I reported on it last time. The, what I could say that's new is that we did get the DLTA grant, the district local technical assistance grant from PVPC. So we will be working on trying to figure out how to allow breweries and wineries in Amherst and also how to allow incidental activities such as weddings on farms and things like that. So they're going to be helping us with that. And we're also, we've added. Attention. That was in the first phase that we've added attention to 5G, which seems to be getting more and more press lately. Town manager had asked us to look at that a few years ago. And I think that was the time it didn't seem like it was. Kind of rising to the surface as much, but now it is. So what is, what is 5G? 5G is a new form of communication. Our cell phones and our cars and our. You know, all kinds of things. Cellular technology. Cellular technology. Exactly. So it's a way of communicating. I don't understand it obviously, but. It's a way of communicating. They're cities and towns at the eastern part of the state are talking a lot more about it these days because. They're being asked to. Host.  They can't be spread out like cell towers and things like that. So it is a topic that is coming to the four. You've probably heard about it recently because of restrictions that can't be used within a certain distance of airports because it interferes with. Flight communications. So anyway, that's another thing that we're putting on our list. So we, we can talk more in depth about this list. Next time around, but it is something that continues to evolve with. Within the planning department. And then also in conversations with the town manager and CRC. Okay. Thank you. All right. So. Unless anybody has any other comments. I think we can close item six on our agenda. And move through the, the last few items relatively quickly. Item seven is old business, Chris, any old business we haven't touched on. No old business. Nope. All right. What about new business? No new business. Okay. All right. Form A and R subdivision. No form A's. Okay. So I don't have to meet you in the parking lot. No. Oh, well. Well, yeah. It'll be the topic of another conversation. Okay. Maybe I do upcoming ZBA applications. Item nine. Then to report tonight. And to report tonight. Upcoming SP, SP, SPB applications. We do have a few of those coming along. One at 463 West street at the Amherst office park. And one at 19 research drive, which is right near Kate Atkinson's office. Kate Atkinson or the one near research drive is a fairly small. Change, but the one at, and also the one at 463 main West street is small, but it's not a big deal. It's not a big deal. It involves making changes to the site plan. To reflect changes that have happened over time. So he'll be seeing that. I think you'll be seeing that on the. Sixth of April. April. Yeah. Okay. Yep. All right. So. Item 12 planning board committee and liaison reports. PVPC Jack, do you want to say anything? No, I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have anything significant. So. Okay. Thanks. Andrew. CPAC. Okay. Design review board. Yeah. All quiet. Okay. And Chris. CRC. Yes, we met with the CRC. I think it was last week.  One was the transition plan that they have. And then they're working on that right now. And the other thing we talked to them about. The new CRC. In the same with town council and trying to figure out what things that town council was working on in the past, particularly with regard to things that are under the umbrella of CRC, like zoning. Do they want to bring forward into this year? So they're working on that. And then the other thing we talked to them about was the of the plan and what pieces of the strategies have been accomplished already and what are currently being worked on. And they're gonna be talking about that and how to move that forward in the future. They're having another meeting, I think, on the 14th, or no, excuse me, the 17th of March. That'll be their next meeting. And I am supposed to be speaking to them about something but right now I can't remember what it is. Okay. By the way, I had attended a district four meeting with Pam Ernie and Anika, I think is the other member. And Pam mentioned she was hoping that there would be some sort of housing working group. And I don't know if that's her personal initiative or it's her CRC initiative. Have you heard anything about that? Yes, there are members of the town council who have been talking about that. I think Jennifer Taub is one of them and I don't know who the others are besides Pam, possibly Dorothy Pam. But some of them have been talking to the building commissioner about various initiatives with regard to housing, mostly having to do with kind of controlling housing in the downtown area and the neighborhoods right around the downtown. So that's a conversation that's been going on beyond me. It might also include aspects of the comprehensive housing policy. So it's not directly related to the item on your list of priorities in phase two called student housing district. Well, I have crossed that item off. I think that for the planning department, I don't really think that's a huge priority. We had put it on the list because we often hear about problems in the area just south of the university and there was discussion. I think it was in the housing market study and it was also mentioned in the comprehensive housing policy about how we might wanna establish a student housing district and try to keep student housing kind of confined or focused in that area. But I think that it's probably not a topic that has much chance of being adopted by town council at this time. So we're not gonna keep that on our list anymore. And I had also added group living in certain larger homes but I think we're gonna drop that as well. So we'll be focusing on, if we do get into talking about housing, we'll probably be focusing on duplexes, triplexes, converted dwellings, townhouses, apartments and multiple detached single family homes on a single parcel. Okay. Janet, do you have a brief comment? Yes, I'll send to everybody John Hornick, the housing trust has kind of a piece on the housing plan and what they like, what they're focusing on and what they're doing and what they think should happen. So I think it's not very long. I think it'd be good for us to read. Okay. No, send it off to Chris. Okay. All right. Report of chair, I don't really have anything to report this evening. Chris, do you wanna go into your staff report? Yes, I wanted to just let you know about a few things. So we did talk about what's coming up on April 6th, which will be Ron Laverde or coming forward with his project on West Street and also the other project on Research Drive, which I've said are fairly small. We also have John Roboleski coming with his definitive subdivision plan for his property on Main Street. So I think I had told you about that in the past. But going back in time, on March 16th, I'd like Nate to come to speak to you about our work on the flood maps and the flood bylaw. It'll be a kind of introduction to you to or reintroduction for some of you have seen this before, but we need to move the flood maps and this flood bylaw through town council pretty much by the end of the summer, possibly into September, but we've got a fairly short timeframe on it now, getting it approved. So we'll be talking to you about that on March 16th. The other thing that I'd like to talk to you about is raising our legal fees for legal ad fees. Right now we only charge applicants $75 for a legal ad and the legal ads often end up being much more than that and so the town ends up paying for that. We've never gone the route of the conservation commission, which actually charges applicants for the exact price of a legal ad, which as I said, can be pretty high, but we wanted to raise our legal fees from $75 to $200 and we need to get approval from the planning board to do that. So I'll be bringing that to you on March 16th. And then if you want to, we can continue our discussion of the rapid recovery plan on March 16th. Okay. Anything else in your report? Yes, Pam Rooney has been appointed as the staff, excuse me, as the town council's liaison to the planning board. So she will be attending planning board meetings she had done so in the past. And now she's kind of been added to the list of contacts for the planning board and so she'll be attending our meetings and she is a planner and a landscape architect. So she will have a lot to say about, well, she's not actually supposed to say anything, I think, but she'll have a lot to think about what you're talking about and a lot to report to town council. So anyway, I'm glad to have Pam as one of our partners. And who was the previous liaison? I actually don't know. In the past, Connie Krueger was one of the liaisons. And I don't think that I knew who was the liaison prior to this in the town council. Okay. All right, anything else? That's it. Okay. All right, so the time is 1009 and I think we can adjourn. Thank you all for a robust discussion about demolition delay by law and solar by law. Thank you. And we thought this might be a short meeting tonight. Thank you too. Pull it up. How wrong we were. Good night, everybody. Thank you, Doug. Thank you, everyone. Have a great night.


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