Sending down now, hugely important moments here. And Vasoulas just turning around, just as clear as goggles. Crowd really being lit up by the stadium announcer. Good crowd in here. That's really encouraging to see for the youngsters. The noisy crowd too. Yeah. Getting right behind their team. Plenty of excitement in this part of the world for World Championship Speedway. Here we go then. Heat 22, the grand final qualifier. Who's going to join Poland? Green lights on. Tapes up now. And once again, Vasoulas has made a super start out against number two. He's blown away from there. Here comes Goose now. Goose coming through in the third place. That'll do it for Lafayette if he can hang on. Gerald running wide there. Certainly very tight. Oh my goodness gracious me. Goose has got it all to do again now. Oh yeah, he's got plenty of speed. I think he's going to really put plenty of pressure now on Emil Brum. He's got a good run out of this corner. He just can't find the speed. I tell you what, had himself in position as soon as he's doing a great job up front. And Goose now has no answer for the Danes are doing it again. Five points would take them into the final. It would indeed. Goose under pressure. He was the hero in heat 21. Looking like he might just miss out. A lap to go. And Vasoulas at a gate number two has worked a treat. Gerald there hanging nicely in second place. One last chance for Goose. Switches to the outside. Trying to turn back to the inside to the run to the line. Not going to be enough. Den Markle through. Den Markle through. It's a bronze medal for Latvia. We're disappointed not to make the final. But nonetheless they pick up a medal. But Den Markle have done it again. You see it in the race. They have been super solid. We're picking up second and third. And so it proved in the grand final qualifier. Five points for Den Markle. Gerald and Brum doing the business. Riccardo and Vasoulas a surprise winner actually of the grand final qualifier. Picks up the win. But Goose as hard as he tried. It was a good one. And Vasoulas just couldn't get amongst the points. Latvia will be so disappointed with that. Because the tactics worked. And Vasoulas off the inside gate of gate two did his job. He made the start. He got out in front on the first lap. And that was all he needed to do. But I've gone one better than last year, Chris. They were fourth last year. They're making progress. They've picked up a medal and the crowd are clearly delighted with that. That's amazing from the Danish team. Managers proved to be correct. You can't beat his enthusiasm. No, he loves it, doesn't he? He lives and breathes it. And all credit to him. Den Markle in the final being rock solid this evening. See it once again, Chris. Yeah, Latvia's tactics working a dream here. And Vasoulas just makes a perfect start. Doesn't panic, creeps around the inside of the track, gets himself in front. At this point, Francis Goose has done the job. But he can't get across the right and red there. He just can't do it. And he just runs in wide. And to be fair to Emil Bruem, he read it perfectly, crept around the inside. And then Goose tries. He looked up the inside for the cutback. He tried around the outside. Just could not generate the speed. No, unfortunate for Francis Goose as hard as he tried. And we're taking very difficult in there. And the dogged performances from the two Danish riders here. Look how tight that is. It doesn't get any tighter than that. I thought Goose was going to jump on board there from get off his own bike. I desperately want to be in third place. The disappointment for Latvia, although it will be reconciled with the fact that they picked up a medal at home. And the crowd, a warm round of applause for the two gladiators on their celebratory lap. Denmark and Poland then will go head-to-head in the grand final itself. Henrik Muller and Nicky Pedersen just having a chat about it. Looking like they will go with potentially the same lineup, I would think, for the final. We've got just a few moments now. Track will be left alone for the final now. No more track raiding this evening. I don't think there's any question mark over Poland's tactics. Zemskiy off the inside gate. Sheerlek off the outside. There's no question about that. I think the odds are fairly short on that one. So we'll move down to the pit area where we will have the draw for the grand final. And the leading team having the first choice is team Poland and Rafał. The Rutskiy will make a selection. Could you please select your riders and the gate position? Viktor Przyjemski will be starting in red helmet colour. Mateusz Czerniak in blue. And Mateusz Czerniak in blue helmet colour. Thank you. No surprise at all there. That's the format that's been working well for them tonight. And next to make a selection is Henrik Muller and team Denmark. Please select your riders and the gate position. Here we're going to have Isbun Jail on gate 2 in white. Then we're going to have Jesper Knudsen on the outside in yellow gate 4. And Jesper Knudsen in yellow helmet colour. Thank you. So Denmark using all three riders in the last two races. Knudsen coming back in for the grand final. He'll go from the outside gate. I'm not sure if he's going to thank Niki Pedersen and Henrik Muller too much about that, but nonetheless he's got a chance. And that's the way they've been performing. The luck has been with them on occasion and they've managed to sneak into it. Second and third to keep their gold medal helps alive. Poland in the driving seat. They have been a class apart here. Clear favourites coming into this final. Absolutely. With the starts he's been making off the inside and Sienak will do whatever it takes to get past. Only overconfidence I believe will beat Poland. There's a line up for you. Victor Przembski with the red helmet colour. Mattias Sieniak with the blue helmet colour. Espen Jerolde with the red helmet colour. Mattias Sieniak with the blue helmet colour. Espen Jerolde in white. And Jespen Nutsen coming into the grand final to replace Emil Brem in yellow. Last race of the evening to determine who's going to be crowned world champions here in Riga. Speedway of Nations in 2023. DeWalt, FIM Speedway of Nations. Mattias Sieniak has been sublime. He has been a class apart, has ridden superbly well, hasn't had the best gates, has had to do the hard yards coming through the traffic, but he's made like work of it. He's been stunning at times, inside, outside, working the bike so well. Can Roland make it 10 under 21? Well, team titles on the truck. Well, if the record that would be. Fabulous record they have at this level. 15 victories already out of 18. 10 in a row. That would be truly superb. Very proud nation, of course. They're a powerhouse of Speedway these days, Poland. Winning the Speedway Cup in Wroclaw very recently. The leader in the world championship, the world champion in Szmarzlik, of course. So they are totally dominant at world championship right now, Poland. But can Denmark do something about it? Four laps, I say, only overconfidence. Maybe a little bit of complacency. Possibly creeping in. But I think it's unlikely. They seem very focused. Denmark were the last team to beat Poland in this competition. They'd be ironic if they were the ones to do it again. Yeah, they have won it twice. Poland. Excuse me, not Denmark. They won it twice more than that. Yeah, they have. One lap is not good, is it, tonight? Denmark has won it in 2010 and 2013. So they will be keen to try and do it again. Of course they will. But nonetheless, a silver medal will be still a fine effort. But Nicky Pedersen, he's a winner. As he jogs up to the start position now where they're released, he'll be trying to instill some of that killer instinct that still lives strong in him, doesn't it? Even in his mid-40s, Nicky's... Diminishing. No, it doesn't. Poland. Tosiemski there, the 18-year-old, beginning to make his mark. Highly rated in Poland. And he's got a lot of publicity about Vick to Tosiemski. Sometimes that can be a negative, but he's certainly responded superbly well to keep Kowalski out of the side here in the latter stages. De Bruycki very happy with his pairing. They have worked very well with the fast-starting Tosiemski and Shearniak being able to strut his stuff coming through the traffic. Rene Schaefer now. Look at Nicky Pedersen. Look at the intensity on his face. He knows that Denmark have got a chance here. He knows that the Danes are beating the Poles already tonight. They know the time the Poles have been beating. Time of the evening. Speedway of Nations, two gold medals on the line. A world championship up for grabs. Poland are the holders. The true Poland have pretty much owned this event forever. So the line-up, Vick to Tosiemski for Poland in red. Manchester Shearniak for Poland in blue. Espen Yield for Denmark in white and Jespen Knudsen coming in to replace Emerl Brand for Denmark in yellow. Interested to see which way they go here. Will they put Knudsen off gate number two and put Yield off the outside round? A few moments of time we'll be able to confirm that for you. I think that's the way round I would have looked. Knudsen works here inside quite well. The riders up at the tapes doing a bit of gardening. Looks like Knudsen is going to go from the outside here. That's the way they've gone. Prezemski on the inside. No real surprise there. The Shearniak out of gate number three. Tentz time saw Raffael Dubrochi. Will he do the double? Looking likely. His tenure as team coach for Poland. He was under pressure coming in to the Speedway World Cup. Got out of that. But a skippish tee by a stunning move from Matse Janowski late on in the final. But here in Riga tonight, Poland who have dominated proceedings throughout the event. Four laps to go. Who's going to clinch gold? Nicky Patterson desperate for his team to do it. Still will be a fine effort from his charges. Three new riders coming in. Picking up silver as a minimum. That's still a very, very good result. Yeah, absolutely. We have got the top two teams from the qualifying heats in this grand final. But there's eight points difference between Poland and Denmark. Here we go then. Final term of the night. The grand final to determine who's going to be world champions. Tapes are up into the first corner. Poland showed cleanly. Prezemski off the inside makes another star. Shearniak there alongside them. They are in dominant form here. They really have been a class apart tonight, Poland. And they are controlling the final out in front. They are comfortable out in front. Gerald back in third place with Newton out the back. But Poland is set to be world champions again. Shearniak so aware of what's going on on that opening lap just looking for his teammate. And they are doing a brilliant job. Really riding above his years and riding so nicely as well. Just looking at him, enjoying himself, hanging off the bike. Just backing the side. Waiting for his teammate. That's a little bit soul destroying when you are the other guy doing a great job. Into the last lap then Poland. Set to be crowned world champions once again. Shearniak absolutely superb out in front. Prezemski coming in. Has done a terrific job as well. One last blast through the last corner. And Poland are champions again. Speedway nations of two world champions. Many congratulations to them. Plain sailing in truth in the final. Denmark just not able to land a blow there. But Shearniak and Prezemski have done the business. Shearniak in particular. Has been so, so good this evening. At one stage there he almost selectively reverse going down the backs. He was off the throttle for so long. He just stayed off the throttle for a long while just to close the gap and keep his teammate close to him. But Poland just dominating in every format at every level. And the 21 speedway of nations champions this evening. Speedway World Cup champions. Smartznik leads the speedway Grand Prix. What a year they're having. Now I'm enjoying a fabulous season of speedway. That's for sure. 10 in a row for Poland now. At under 21 level. Terrific performance from them. Incredible record they have. And Shearniak and Prezemski. Kowalski out there as well. Enjoying what's just happened as well. Must be a touch disappointing. But nonetheless it's been a fine showing. And who can stop them? They seem to have this conveyor belt of youngsters coming through. They encourage it. They focus on it. Denmark certainly coming to the four here. They finished fifth last year with 26 points. They pick up Silva this year. So much improvement there. Here's the results for you of the final. Poland pick up a maximum score with 7 matches Shearniak and Victor Prezemski. Gold for them. Silver medal for Denmark with Espen Gerald and Jespen Knudsen. A team effort from Denmark using all three riders throughout the evening. At all scoring points. That's an encouraging sign for them. But there was just no holding Poland. So a great moment for them. And they'll be chuffed to bits with this as we see it again. Ruffle to Bruchy, Polish team are just bringing the changes in their 30. Bringing Prezemski in and sticking to the format. Prezemski off the inside here in red. Just doing a great job off the start once again. Kind of just felt the way he's been starting that that cannot go wrong that format. He has a little look for his teammate. Realises that Shearniak has made a very decent start off gate three. Just runs around the inside stopping anyone creeping around the curve. There we can see both riders just looking across at each other exactly the same time. Looking perfectly as a team. The Danes have done a good job all night. Just nowhere near as good as the Poles. Absolutely. Dominant performance from Poland. Worthy champions. That's for sure. And they'll celebrate this royally. They maintain that incredibly high standard. And just look at the reaction from Mattius Shearniak. They're clearly delighted with that. And he'll be looking forward to now trying to retain the GP2 World Championship. I forgot to add that to the list. He's a clear leader of that. He's in commanding position with that.


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What's up everybody? Ricky Kruth here. Welcome back to the Zero to Diamond show. I'm Ricky Kruth as always and today we're with Peter Lorimer. How you doing, Peter? Very good. How are you, mate? Good to see you, Ricky. For sure. For sure. What's going on? What's going on? Oh man, just down here getting after, like always. I hear you. You're in Alabama, right? Yeah. Nice. Never been to Alabama. Always kind of wanted to go, but never made it. Check this out, man. I'm right on the Alabama, Florida state line, right on the beach. And we got white sandy beaches, palm trees, million dollar condos. Love it. Sounds beautiful. Is that the Panhandle? Yeah, it is. It's right, it's right there at the end of the Florida Panhandle. It goes right into Alabama, probably like 30 miles. That's where I am. And then the Panhandle hits Mobile Bay. And Mobile has a huge bay. And then on other sides, Mobile, there's Dolphin Island, but the really, really nice beaches kind of start dwindling and it goes into Mississippi and it's not as nice over there. No disrespect to Mississippi at all, but they got good casinos, but their beaches aren't, you know, white sandy. And if you're listening in Mississippi, we still love you. You're tuning in to the Ricky Carruth show. But yeah, man. So where are you? L.A. Okay. So you got a Netflix show. I got a Netflix show. Yeah. So it's, that was kind of like the cherry on top of, and it was actually, believe it or not, something that I wasn't really looking for. Yeah. I just kind of stumbled into it or we stumbled into each other. I was, you can probably hear by my accent. I'm an English guy. I've been in California for 26 years. I came here with a dream and an airline ticket. 26 years ago, but I used to be a record producer. I was a house music producer and remixer. And I had a lot of hit records through, through the nineties. I had over, over 30 number ones in the billboard club charts in the US, 25 in the UK, the world as a DJ, you know, it was a wild and wacky and wonderful time for about 18 years. And it was incredibly rock and roll. Wow. And then, and then around 2000 kind of saw the end of the music business coming. Been in it a long time. It was an unhealthy industry for me. And I wanted to do something else. So I started property investing and I became an agent. And then I became the number one agent in Cali Williams in LA. And then I started my own company. And now we have four offices, 175 nearly 200 agents. And our big thing was social media as a company. It was video and self promotion. And Netflix literally found me on YouTube. Okay. So your, so the, the foundation of your new company was social media. Correct. So back, going back to Keller Williams, becoming the number one agent, were you a single agent? Did you have a team? What were you? I've always been a single agent. What kind of volume, what kind of numbers do you have to do in California as a single agent to be the top agent? I think I can't remember what it was, but maybe it was 80 million or something. 80 million. Yeah. Maybe 90 million that year. Right. Right. And I did it all through social media. No door knocking, no cold calling. No. So even back in the Keller William days. So this is 2003, four. No, 2005 is when I became an agent. So I was the number one agent for Keller Williams. I got the award in either 2009 or 2010. I can't remember. Probably 2000. I can't remember one of those years, but we started PLG, which is PLG estates in Beverly Hills. We started that in 2010. And we're still going now. And it was in a room, not much bigger than this room. And now we're four offices and, you know, lots of really cool people. And we went after a niche. You know, we went after a niche, Ricky. I wanted to go after, my story is kind of always looking for the alternate route. And I didn't want to do, and I'm not knocking it, but I just didn't want to do the cold calling, the door knocking, the, the postcards, the usual stuff. So I wanted to really niche it down back then. So with me being a music guy, being a creative, I just went hard after the creatives of LA. I figured there was a lot of them. And went after my sphere and just was unstoppable. So you had a pretty big sphere. Before you got into real estate.  You had rock and roll. Yeah, you probably. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I knew a lot of folk, but I came to find out a lot of folk didn't necessarily trust me as a real estate guy when I got my license. Yeah. And I found a lot of people, you know, I, the music's an interesting game. It's full of glitter, but there's not a lot of money in it, unless you're the super top end. So there was a lot of people who just were great, but couldn't, couldn't even jump into the property market. So I found my deals through digging into the darkest crevices and corners of my database and just not giving up. Right. So what would you say? So now that you've been through all that, you started your own company. You've founded on, you know, you guys as principals to build your business as social media and, you know, not the old fashioned way and all that good stuff. What would you tell somebody or how would somebody start from scratch? No real base. They're 20 years old. They just got their license. They, you know, what, what do, how do they, how do they become number one? So if I was going to move to Alabama, right? I don't know anybody in Alabama. I was going to move to Mobile, Alabama. How big is the city? Well, I'm not mobile. I'm in Orange Beach. We got about 8,000 population, but we have about 6 million visitors every year. So let me deal with it, because I can't even get my head around that. Let me deal with the city that I know. Say Chicago, right? If I was moving to Chicago. Okay. Here is what I would do as a brand new agent. I would chummy up with all of the agents in an office that I worked at. I would always recommend going to a boutique. It's just the way I operate. I think there was something that I learned in the music business when I was coming up through the ranks as a record producer. And somebody said to me, Pete, always stand next to the guy that's got everything to lose. And so with boutique firms, especially the more progressive ones, you get access to the owner of the company and you get access to someone who's got everything to lose if it fails. Now I'm not saying there's anything wrong with corporate. There isn't. My flavor has always been the mindset of being a boutique guy. Even though I was at Keller Williams, I ultimately started a boutique. So I would do that.  I would ask them if I could sit all their open houses. If they didn't have open houses free, I would say, in LA, we do them on Sundays. I would say, can I sit them on Saturdays? If they were not free on Saturdays, I'd say, can I hold them open Tuesday nights and Thursday nights? And then I would promote those open houses through social media and invite people to them. I would then promote myself in a specific zip code of Chicago in an area of, let's say the south side. I would promote myself as being an authority in that market. I would niche it down. I'm going to come up with an area. I'm going to call it Royal Woods, right? If there's a Royal Woods in Chicago, let me know. But I would go after the Royal Woods area and I would start doing videos about how to improve the value of your house in Royal Woods. New coffee shops that have opened in Royal Woods. Why is it great to buy in Royal Woods? And I would just keep hammering it and hammering it and hammering it and hammering it. I would go around to local businesses. I would introduce myself. I would say, do you mind if I do a promotional video about your business to the community? All I ask of you is, can I leave a little notice of who I am? Maybe some cards. And will you promise to put me out on your social media? And I'll put you out on mine. And that's what I would do. And I wouldn't stop. And if I didn't have clients, I would be making videos constantly, constantly, constantly, constantly. I like it, man. So, so you'd use the open houses as a reason to invite people to come meet you. Yep. I mean, and that would help you become familiar with properties and what they're priced at and what they look like in different subdivisions. And then so you'd have two things. You do open houses. You'd promote those heavily. And then you do videos of local businesses. You get to know the business owners. And you would kind of network like that. Is that what I'm hearing? Correct. And I would maybe I would look, I would see what, what's a new business. There's always a new coffee shop. There's always a new designer boutique, right? There's always a new cheese shop or something. And I would say, Hey, can I hold an event at your place? Right. And they'd be like, well, what exactly is that? And I'd say it's just a meet and greet. You just need to donate some cheese and some wine.  I'll bring the wine. I'm going to get a bunch of the local community in here. I'm going to promote your store. And then I'm going to sponsor. I'm going to sponsor it. And all I'm doing is I'm bringing some wine and bringing the people. And I just want to go around and meet everybody. Are you cool with that? Okay. Then I would get to know the locals and where they lived and blah, blah, blah. Right. And so, and so that's how you will get exposure. Okay. Now, now how would we go into taking that and creating, you know, clients out of that or, or converting that into actual business that translate into us paying our bills. So I would then, if a bunch of people are rolling up to events, I don't know what it's like in, well, in Chicago, but in LA, everybody wants to talk real estate all the time. So I would literally, I wouldn't be practicing scripts and doing all of that stuff, but I would speak to people and I would ask them where they lived. I would say, why do you like it there? When did you buy your house? You know, do you know other people that want to move into the area? Very much the same techniques as open houses. But I would do it where, and I'm very good at getting people's numbers. I'm very good at getting people's details. And I'm like flypaper. Once you meet me, you're stuck. Right. Never getting away. I'm on you. Right. And then it's just follow up, follow up, follow up, follow up. I do not believe in Zillow. I do not believe in any online leads other than social media leads. So when you say you're like flypaper, you stay on them. What do you, what are you doing? Are you calling them? Are you DMing them? Are you emailing them? Are you texting them? What do you, what are you doing to stay on them? All of the above. Everything. Everything. So when I was a new agent and I met someone, right? It's hard. It's hard because they meet a lot of people, right? When they're thinking, and if they don't know you from Adam, you've got a mountain to climb to win their trust. Right. And so I would do, this is back in the day, when I was prospecting before there was so many platforms in social media, but I would make sure that I called them. And then I would email them. And then I would text them to let them know I left a voicemail and an email. Just wanted to make sure I'm not sure which platform you check. Just wanted to show you that I'm, you know, following up and about what we talked about. By the way, couple of new properties that are coming on the market that you might not know about yet. They're not on the market. Love to chat. Okay. And then reel them in. There you go. So, so we are making calls. They're just not cold calls. It's more like a follow up call. Correct. It's, it's a call to. No sort of know, might know, could know just met. Yeah. Yeah. Never strangers. Okay. I know people that make a living. I had some living through strangers. I would rather drive a bus. Sure.  You just got to figure out what works for you at the end of the day. It's about who's contact, and then who has the skills to communicate that they actually care about those people. And then on the back end, who's doing the best job to build their brand from there being that flypaper. Man, that's just the bottom line.  It's all the same. It's all the same. I guess I like to have a little bit of emotional leverage. Right. Right.  Whereas if I met Ricky through Bob at the gym and I know Ricky and Bob are good mates, then I'm kind of okay mates with Bob. And then I take you out. The chances of you screw me over cold because you know, I know Bob have been reduced. Right. I like it. You know, I like that. I think, I think a lot of people watching are actually gets probably like a lot of things, a lot of light bulbs are probably going off of, they're probably thinking of people right now that. I can't understand that guy. He's got such a strong accent. They're probably thinking.  I like his glasses, but I don't understand a word he's saying. You guys should have seen him before he came on and he had these headphones on that were like this big. Yeah. I look like I'm flying a plane. More calling Orson. So, okay. How, how big is your company? How many agents? About 175 between 150 and 200. Okay. And y'all are over just right in the California LA area. Just a few. We're all in LA. We're in the four, we're in the four kind of the four central areas of LA. You've got Beverly Hills. You've got in between Beverly Hills and downtown. There's an area called Los Feliz. You've got studio city to look like.  And then you've got, um, I got a beach office. He'll do sand. Great. Sounds like you're doing really well. So has the market kind of over the last 18 months or so, kind of flatten out a little bit.  For sure. I've been waiting for, so I don't, I don't, if you've seen that movie, the 300, you seen it? Oh yeah. Great movie. So we are the, we are the 300. Yeah. Okay. Because and compass and, you know, Coldwell and Keller are the army, right? Okay. And then what has happened is. As a little bit of opaqueness and confusion has entered the market. We all have our swords out and we're banging our shields. And this is the moment we've been waiting for. Yeah. I like where it's going, dude. Now we are going to charge. And, and, and spear as many people as we possibly can. Figuratively, of course, just using the 300 metaphor. Yeah. Because. There's an awful lot of money. Being thrown at the real estate industry. Yeah. It's going down to dark deep hole though. Well, this is it. It's easy when the plane's doing this. Oh, look at these apps. Look at this. No, they're losing money on the way up. Money on the way up. I mean, what's going to happen when it really. If you can't make money when the market's great. What do you think is going to happen when the market turns. Yeah, that's that's that's good. And I just think those of us and those companies. That have my entire strategy for the past. So I first detected I sell a reasonable amount used to sell a lot more, but I sell a reasonable amount of luxury, right. And around four years ago, four years, one of my, one of the, I don't have a lot of talents. But one of the talents I do have is I can see around corners. Right. Always been able to do it. Even when I was in the music business. I had to predict where dance floors would be 18 months from. That date. So I'd make an album and it had to be current. And this is electronic music, which changes like that. So I had to estimate where it was going to land. Otherwise I wouldn't be in business. And that muscle I never thought would help me in real estate, but it's turned out to be the best muscle. I could possibly hope for. And so the ability to kind of. Have a really clear idea or an 85% clear idea of where this is all going. Allows us and me as a company to position ourselves. Where it's going to be, not where it is or where we think it's going to go, but be there. When it arrives. And four years ago, I began to detect. Faint. Like almost with my ear to the ground, the feeling that the super high end was contracting. Beginning to contract. And I then was like, okay. I need to as, as the rest of the world was having, you know, these expensive lunches and glamorous affairs and big parties and. I was making. Plans. In preparation for the contraction. So I moved the ethos of my company about two years ago. And I was like, okay. I need to prepare for the contraction. So I'm not looking at. Like bills coming in and this and that. So that when everybody else is beginning to lose their heads. We will keep ours. And we are more focused today. Than we have ever been. And it's an exciting time. Absolutely. So you went through the last crash. Yep. And you started your company in 10, which was literally the bottom of the, of the crash. Yep. So what, what, so tell me what you learned through that that is and, and what actions are you taking now to position yourself. To where you don't lose your head and you can continue. So. What I learned was, and I get, I think I have to thank the music business for this Ricky. What I learned is when. I, I, I, I remember a genre in music changed, right? If it went from techno to trance, a lot of guys that were doing techno were like, well, I don't really know what trance is.  No, I'm just going to stick doing. Techno. I'm just going to do techno. Right. So. Evolving an adaptation is part of business. So in 2007. I remember going into my office manager at Keller Williams, guys in the office say he just sold his hairdresser, his third investment property. And I was like, okay, and I said, where's this hairdresser's just the local guy down the block. And I'm, and it just didn't compute. So I'm like, all of these people are leveraging themselves. What happens if they walk away? What happens if there's an economic shift? And I spoke to my office manager and she looked at me, bless her heart, she was very nice. But I said, her name was Lisa. I said, Lisa, what happens? What happens if we go to war with someone and there's an economic shift? And everybody's got 100% loans. In fact. What year is this? 2007. 2007. Yeah. And she looked at me and she said, oh, well, that will never happen. This is America. She will just keep going up. And I was like, okay, as soon as I heard those words, I'm like, if this is what everybody's thinking, this shit's going down. That's what everybody was thinking. Yeah. So just on gut, that gut that I've trusted my entire life, that gut that I left home at, dropped out of high school, left home at 15 to go make house records in London. I followed my gut. My gut said, Pete, you need to have a differentiator.  You're meeting investors. You need to kind of do something to stand out. Now my, my mind was, I can't get you all the way there, but I can get you 80% the way there that this doesn't make sense.  And I said, fellas, keep your money in your pockets because I don't think this is going to last. It can't just keep going up and up and up and up and up. And this is when it was 6% mortgages. I said, I think something's going to happen. And a couple of them, not all, a couple of them listened.  And it was as much like, wow, that was lucky.  But the point I'm making to give you a very long answer is how does one prepare? One prepares by keeping our eyes really wide open and not being resistant to change. It is apparent the market is changing. Most people don't like change. I love change. Most people don't like it. If we resist and put our heads in the sand and go, it'll be okay. I'm just going to keep doing what I was doing a year ago because that worked. You're going to go down. You'll go down. If we evolve and look at the, because this isn't, I'm not the smartest guy. I just look at what's coming down the pike. And if the messages are markets flattening, sales are taking longer, prices are not going up as much, maybe they're coming down. I can resist all I want and it's not going to change it. So now what I did in 2010 was I went after investors. And in 2019, I'm already lining people up to say there's going to be an opportunity for mom and pop investors to pick up single family residences in Los Angeles. And many of them have already started buying. And I think there's going to be more opportunities next year. And you just got to bob and weave with the punches, right? Got it, got it. So your strategy is when you foresee it coming, you're trying to just kind of advise clients that there may be something coming. I want you to be aware, give me your contact information. I'll stay in touch with you. And when this, when this, when these opportunities come and the market folds a little, I'll call you and we'll do some business. So that's, that's your way of preparing. So, so you've got, so I'm taking it that you've got your business of normal people, regular people who, who have to buy, have to sell now for whatever reasons. That's normal business is just kind of clicking along. But then in the back of your mind, you're also not, you're also paying attention to the fact that we may have something on the horizon. And you want to go ahead and start kind of getting the word out that you're going to be the guy to come to if and when that happens. Yes. And it doesn't always have to be catastrophic events, right? It can be stuff like, you know, rate increases. It can be, there is a new thing in Los Angeles where there are development zones, right? Nobody really knows what they are. Development zones are where you can sell, buy a property, hold it for 10 years and not pay any tax on it as an investor. I'm sure you've got them in Alabama. And then there are other things in LA, accessory dwelling units, right? Where real estate agents are kind of scratching their heads going, well, I didn't kind of know what it is. But there's an opportunity to know that stuff now so that you can add value to your people so that they trust you. Because if everybody's receiving the information at the same time you are, where's your value at? Right. You know, I'm, one of the things I live by, Ricky, is I would much rather act in a market than react. I'd much rather set up my stall and say, this is what I believe rather than, oh, have you heard? Right. You know what I mean? I do, I do to a certain extent. I think, I think you can set the expectations and say, basically, but you're not saying that this is what's going to happen. You're saying this is what, this is kind of what might happen, correct? Yeah.  I mean, you can't, nobody can predict it. Nobody knows.  You might even put your clients in a bad position because they might make a decision based on what you say. So you're not predicting the market. You're telling people that based on your experience, that you believe that this is what might happen. And if it does, you know. Yeah. I mean, case in point is this, right? So rates, as we know, are crushingly, crushingly low, crushingly. Right. So I've had, when I say investors, these are not the investors that have no pulse and just count money. These are mom and pop people, right? Real people who've got real money to lose. I'm a real emotional guy, so I'd really like working with emotional people.  I think there is going to be a correction, right? And I think it's already underway. The correction's already happening. The question is, and they're saying, should we wait or should we buy now? When rates are at three and a quarter percent, the market would have to correct an awful lot for that to not make sense. Because I believe 18 months from now, that three and a quarter percent is going to be closer to five. And so that means the difference between three and a quarter, or three and a half percent and five percent is over 20 percent. So that means the market would have to contract by 20 percent for it not to make sense to buy now. That makes sense? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And it's what I believe, you know, and the bottom line, Ricky, is this, with all clients, treat them like family, treat them like, like you are my own brother, David, and how I want him to win. And I want to advise him to buy or to wait or to sell next year or to sell now. Or if you don't need to sell for, if you need to, if you want to move between one and five years, then hold on to the house. Let's talk again in four years when all the madness is over. Let's talk then, you know, nobody knows where it's going to be in four years, but we're heading into a year next year that I think is going to be turbulent. Right. You know what you just said right there for the past 60 seconds is the foundation of my coaching program. Talk to them like they're your mom, dad, brother, cousin, right?   That's something I'm really big on, because it's got to be like an extended part of your family where you don't care if they buy or sell. You just want to help them either way. Now, later, tomorrow, never, whatever, some of my best clients never even bought anything from me or sold anything with me. They've referred so many people to me, but they've never bought or sold anything with me, but I treated them so well when I showed them property or went to the listing appointment or whatever it was, but they never did anything, but they see me as like their little nephew or their uncle or their, you know what I mean? And I got people like that too. I mean, we're getting into something that I really, really, really believe in, which is the core of my business, which is with clients, there is commission. And then there is service. This catches a cab, goes to the train station, gets as far away from me as possible. When I'm thinking about commissions, I'm not thinking about service, right? So commissions, I don't even think about. I think about what can I add to this relationship, right? Whether it be, I get money from it or not, what can I add when I was a brand new agent, somebody was even thinking about real estate, right? And they had no job and no credit. I would be like, let's get in the car. I would buy them a coffee. I'd buy them lunch. I'd give them a good day out. And I'd say, I hope you enjoyed yourself. So when you're ready, I'd love to help you. The amount of folks that came back to me a year or two later after they built their credit up and bought with me was staggering. The number, there are, okay, we're getting into the four horsemen of the apocalypse Ricky, if that's all right.  Okay. All right. Go ahead. What are they?  So I just did a freaking podcast on this as well. Oh God, what are they? You know what? I'm just terrible, man. You have to at least remember one of the four, right? Well, I remember all, I remember some of the big ones, right? So essentially the ringleader of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, expectations. Okay. If we are going into relationships with expectations, it is a disaster. That doesn't mean goals. That doesn't mean we don't hope to close a house or make a sale. But when I go on a listing appointment, I'm looking how I can be of service to that person, even if it's to say, you know, I'm not the right man for the job. You need to sell it with Ricky. Because Ricky's just got far more experience with this type of thing. I'm just not the right guy. Or now might not be the best time for you to sell at all. Might not. You know how many times I've done that and won that listing either right then or a week or two later. Because I literally did not care. I would say, you know what? I think you need to wait a little bit. And just based on your situation of why you want to sell. Yeah. I'm big off finding out what people's motivations are behind why they want to buy or sell. Yeah, me too. Me too. And the amount of listings that I've gone on and I've said to them, you know what? Why are you selling? Why don't you keep the house, pull out the equity, go buy another house and then rent this sucker out. You're in a great area. You're in a great school district. This house is going to double in the next 15 years. Kick it. Keep it. Keep it. Keep it. Okay. Expectations are one. Yeah. I can't remember what the other four are.  All right. You're going to have to email me that. I need to know. But uh, cool. Well, tell me about the Netflix show. What is it? What's it about? So yeah, the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse got it. They said it was so great. The video was so great. But I just have completely spaced on what I said. You have to go to my YouTube channel viewers and find out. So Netflix, the Netflix show is something that I'm a big believer in, which is the business of Airbnb. So I'm a big believer in the shared economy to put my money where my mouth is. One of the big changes I did with my own firm is we had multiple offices, traditional offices around LA. And we had a 6,000 square foot headquarters in Beverly Hills. And the type of agents that we attract tend to be the more kind of savvy, the more kind of street wise guys, all of whom this is their office. Right. And so the only time my office was full was when we had meetings. So I said to my lovely wife, who's my partner in the business? I said, look, we're flying high right now. We're doing great. So I need to do something drastic.  I didn't shut it down. I moved my Beverly Hills headquarters into WeWork. And then I moved my valley office into WeWork. And then I opened the beach office in WeWork. And then I have a brick and mortar office in Los Feliz. And what that did is it was a bold move. And it allowed us to essentially prepare for the storm that's coming that I referred to earlier back to the Netflix show.  Like WeWork is the shared economy. And I got approached by Netflix to found me and heard what I was saying about it. And they said, do you want to do a show on Netflix? And I was like, who is this? I thought it was one of my pals goofing around. And I didn't think for it, I'll be honest, Ricky, I didn't think for a second that I was going to get it. You know, I thought I'm just this big rambunctious British guy that nobody can understand. And they said they'd been auditioning for a while and couldn't find anybody. And I'm like, where were you looking, prison? And that's where they found you. That's where they found me in a cell with a stripper.  They found they found me. And I was, you know, they were lovely. And I essentially got the job pretty much. So how long has it been going? So it came out last season. One was last year. We went to eight cities in the US. And the premise of the show is, I guess I'm kind of the Gordon Ramsey of Airbnb. I'll go to Airbnb's, figure out why they are not working as a business. And then Genevieve Gorda from Trading Spaces was the designer on the show. Her and I worked together to make the business and the design fabulous. Then we relaunched the properties. And I'm happy to say they're all doing 100 to 400% better than they were before we got to them. And the show's been really good and opened a lot of doors for me. And, you know, there's going to be more TV coming next year. Absolutely. So when you go in there and remodel these and they start doing the 100 to 400% better on the rentals, is it a combination of, is it just strictly we remodeled it and made it look this certain way? And that's what is attracting more renters? Or is it a combination of we remodeled it? It looks a million times better. And we're advertising it differently. Correct. It's that one. So with short-term rentals, the philosophy is very similar to real estate, except when somebody's buying a house, the area is obviously really important. And the house is really, really important. And then the facilities in the area are important as well, but not maybe as important as the house itself. In short-term rental, it's kind of the other way. Right. The amenities, the restaurants, the bars, the stuff that sightseeing is as important as the house. And so what we did on the show is completely reworked the business plan, completely reworked the marketing, completely reworked like all the photography and videos and then the design so that it could be marketed for something that was a niche. For example, we did a boat house in Seattle, right? There are lots of boat houses in Seattle that are available for short-term rental. So then how do you stand out? So we created one where we, because it was smaller, we called it the Seattle Lakeshore Love Nest or something. So we were going after a niche of romantics. And it did really, really, really well. I mean, one of the secrets for me of anything is don't try and appeal to everyone all the time, just try and appeal to the people that like you all the time. Right. Right. True in business as well, huh? You know? Yeah. Yeah. 70% of people either won't like you, have another agent or whatever, but 20 to 30% of people you talk to are going to love you enough to do business with you now or later. Yep. Cool, man. Well, anything else that you want my audience or viewers to know? No. I mean, I'm a very big proponent of video and vlogging. That's definitely the cornerstone of who I am and what I'm about. So I'm going to give you listeners and viewers some places to go find me. On Instagram at Peter Lorimer, on YouTube Peter Lorimer official, Facebook Peter Lorimer official. And then on YouTube and on Instagram, I have a personal channel which is Peter Lorimer Life and Times, which is my family vlogs and, you know, these big epic films that I do when I go away, which I totally utilize to push out to my sphere to catch a business, which it does. Absolutely. Yeah. Have Ashley was it? Do what? Ashley, was she the one emailing me? Yeah, Ashley is. Yeah, it's a dude. Oh, okay. Ashley, have him, have him email me all those links and I'll put those in the under the description of this YouTube video and also the podcast and everything that way everybody can find you there, but man. Do you do one of these every day? No, I do maybe two of these a week as far as people on my show and then I'm probably on maybe three or four of other people's shows a week. So I probably, yeah, I probably do one or two. Like I'll do, I'll do another one after this and then I'll do two tomorrow, but I don't have anything the rest of the week. So it's just a hit or miss. I, people think I cram a lot in this. People think I cram a lot. Hey, you guys should think about coming to Orange Beach or Gulf Shores to do the, do one of those Netflix shows because we got 6 million visitors every year. It's a small town on the beach. There's a lot of Airbnb's and we've had HDTV and other, other players down here. So it might be something interesting. Yeah. Anybody watching if you've got an Airbnb, feel free to reach out to me. I'll give you my email address, peter at peterlarima.com. There you go. Easy. Easy peasy. Cool, man. Well, man, I know a lot of people got a lot out of this. So I appreciate you doing it and reaching out and everything. And my pleasure. Just let me know if there's anything else I can do for you, brother. You got it, Ricky. Thanks for having me on. Absolutely. Later, guys. See you, mate.


The Lowdown on Teaching English Abroad with a Family If you do a quick online search for teaching English abroad, it would be easy to assume that it is only an option for young single people. However this is far from the truth, as there are countless thousands of people of all ages who are currently teaching abroad with their families. Many parents see it as a great opportunity to provide their children with an international education, that is far removed from the one-dimensional option that most of us experience in our home country. Although moving abroad to teach English as a family is a great option for many people, there are obviously several things to consider before jumping on a plane. Safety Concerns If you are thinking about teaching overseas with your children, you are likely to have friends or family members who question whether it is safe to do so. Just remember, if you do your research and plan everything in detail, there is no reason for your adventure to be anything other than a safe and enjoyable experience for the whole family. The bottom line is, don't choose a destination that you would consider to be unsafe for a solo traveler, let alone one with a family. Also consider the quality of each country's education healthcare and childcare facilities, before choosing a suitable location for everyone involved. It is worth remembering that young children are amazingly resilient and open to new ideas and experiences, so they are likely to embrace the move with much less concern than most adults. I Have a Non-Teaching Partner For many families moving abroad to teach involves both parents working as English-language teachers. However, if one partner is not planning to teach, it is important that they are fully on board with the move before setting off. Unless they are able to work online or are happy not to work at all, it is essential that you research the employment options for your partner to ensure they can find a suitable job. Crucially, this is a conversation that you need to have way in advance of your departure to avoid adding extra stress to what is already a potentially life-changing decision. Money Concerns If you and your family decide to head overseas to teach English, it is reasonable to ask can I make enough money to support them? The short answer is yes. Depending on your choice of location English teachers are generally able to earn a decent salary. Also many popular teaching destinations have a lower cost of living than back home, and you might even get added bonuses such as free accommodation or flights thrown in. If you have advanced qualifications or experience as a teacher, you might want to consider Middle Eastern countries such as the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, or Qatar, as they generally offer the best salaries and bonus packages. East Asia is also well known for its high salaries and bonuses with less stringent requirements expected of teachers. Of course if money is not such a big deal, there are great family adventures waiting for you in Europe and Latin America. Other Considerations Your marital status could be an issue as unmarried couples are not eligible for spousal visa sponsorship in some countries. It is vital that you check this out well in advance, if you plan to take your partner as a dependent for visa purposes. Your choice of employer could also have a big impact on your family living abroad. Typically private language schools pay better than regular schools, but the hours can often include evening and weekend work to suit the clients. Regular schools might be a better choice if you have young children. The Main Perks of Teaching English Abroad as a Family. New Language and Culture Probably the biggest perk for many families moving abroad is the chance to be immersed in a new language and culture. Whether it is Arabic, Korean or Italian, you will be amazed at how quickly young children can pick up a new language. As a family you will also get to enjoy a wide range of unique cultural experiences, from preparing and eating the local cuisine to exploring historic buildings, temples and markets. Family Travel For most teachers with a family the chance to explore new countries during the weekend or holidays is a real highlight. While you might consider heading back home for major holidays, many people take the opportunity to do something unique, such as spending Christmas on a tropical island or hiking in the Himalayas during the summer. In many places it is entirely possible to get a cheap flight to a neighboring country just for the weekend. You won't be lonely. Unlike the tens of thousands of single teachers who head overseas every year, you will be taking a support network with you. If you have a tough day in the classroom, you will have a partner to offload on in your own children to make you smile. It is often the case that families who experience this kind of adventure end up growing closer, as a unit as they all go through a similar transition of culture shock and the initial language barrier. Many families also find that simple things, such as eating meals together and family outings to the beach or cinema become more regular and special when living in another culture. The main pitfalls of teaching English abroad is a family. Homesickness. Once the initial excitement of your new life starts to wear off a little, it is not unusual to feel a twinge of homesickness. The kids complaining that you can't get their favorite cereal at the supermarket, where your partner moaning about language problems when buying groceries can start to drag your mood down. At times like these, you need to take a deep breath and remember why you made the decision to move abroad in the first place. For the majority of families these feeling will pass, and the adventure will go from strength to strength. Schooling issues. The rules regarding school enrollment vary from one country to the next. In some areas the children of foreign workers are not allowed to attend local schools, but must enroll at an international school instead. While the quality of education at international schools is generally exceptional, the fees can eat a big hole in a teacher's income. If your kids are able to enroll in a local school, this can also cause problems if they have not got a good grasp of the local language. If your partner is not working, you might have the opportunity to homeschool your children which can be a great option for many. Long-term plans. Although teaching abroad with your family for a year may seem like a great plan, what happens next? Will the rest of the family want to continue longer, or will they want to return home? What if you want to stay but your partner wants to leave, or the kids want to go back to school in their home country? While it is hard to predict how anyone will feel down the line, it is still important to consider the long-term prospects of moving abroad when weighed against the potential upheaval involved. Are you ready to teach English abroad with your family? While there are certainly some challenges involved in moving overseas to teach English with a family, don't be put off from following your dream. With the right amount of research and planning, there is no reason why you and your family can't look forward to the adventure of a lifetime. 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Welcome back to the next episode of The Therapy Show Behind Closed Doors with Bob Cook and myself Jackie Jones and this is part two of the one that we started last week which was part one on running therapy groups and this one is about the styles of running therapy groups, the different styles that we can use in that because we felt like there was a bit too much information in last week so we decided to split it over to you. Yeah and thank you very much for allowing me to have the opportunity to talk about my many years of experience of running psychotherapy groups and the different types of psychotherapy groups and what I'd like to concentrate specifically in this and in said video with podcast is I'd like to talk about what a process group is. Yeah a hybrid individual group which I talked about last podcast and the group I ran for so many years which was basically a hybrid one which is where the individual becomes the star in the group not the people in the group. Yeah and there's a huge difference. Yeah I think the one that I did was a hybrid you know. Yeah absolutely. So here we go then a process group and there's different types of process groups so pass or lead a third podcast. Wait loosely loosely a process group is one where the leader of the group is trained and will facilitate the group as a process in other words it's not going to be an individual that is the star of the therapy group the curative factor will be the process of the group. Okay. Is that clear? In other words the issues that the individuals bring into the group collectively so it's a we and not an I it's co-constructed co-created rather than an individual process so the leader will be concentrating on the different factors of the group and the themes of the group the system of the group rather than an individual process. Okay so one person brings a topic and then everybody discusses that theme or topic is that what you mean? Okay this is why I said there's different styles of running a group but in general in general it's about processing whatever happens collectively in the group. Okay so for example you know if you were trained in group dynamics and trained in running a psychotherapy group in the way that I'm talking you might well start the group this way once you've sorted out whether it's one hour whether it's two hours whether it's three hours how many people in the group a group contract when you've sorted all those admin things out even such as for example is it for 10 weeks and is it for 20 weeks is it for ongoing when you've sorted all that stuff out a group dynamic process facilitator might walk into the group and say something like this okay so we have two hours now over to you. Wow just like we are now or you are if you could see it you can see Jackie's face but exactly a long long time ago a long time ago before I became a psychotherapist probably 32 33 I was I was interested very much in learning about myself a little bit more that doesn't mean I'd gone into therapy because I hadn't so I must have been 32 and I did a I did a 10 week course what is called the extra mule part of Manchester University I don't know if still call the extra mule part this is God this is 45 years ago 40 years ago whatever yeah 40 years ago and it was called I think group dynamic a taste of group dynamics or something like that and I can't remember what the actual taste was it was for two hours or was it an hour and a half and that's exactly what happened what I'm saying now and the person basically said what I've just said and then shut up I think it was for an hour actually and then just was quiet and whatever people bought people bought now I knew nothing about psychotherapy I was a virgin to all of it I was learning about myself so I found it intellectually interesting I found it I was pretty stunted emotionally and various other things looking back on it now I thought it was very extremely and only from where I am now I thought it was quite unprotective yeah it wasn't deemed a therapy group it was deemed a taste of group dynamics I think so it's a completely different process and people stayed or didn't stay or left out but what I didn't think happened you know there wasn't a sort of teaching really about what it was all about yeah and in many ways I think there was missing things for it but why I'm bringing this up is that if you've started going to therapy group which is a one process style it could be by group dynamic therapist it could be very similar in the sense that okay the contract might have been worked out before the group contract the structure of the time I've been it could be very similar where the person just says over to you now different from what happened with me 45 years ago which was a taste of group dynamics I think in a further education university if you're trained as being a therapist it's up to the therapist then to come in whereas this person 42 years ago I'm talking about never came at all because it hadn't got a therapeutic nature even though I think it was therapeutic in some senses but anyway won't go down that road so the person who's been trained in group dynamics will come in yeah okay good sort of like shape the way the process might be going yeah so there's the structure to it it's not just like a free for all when you you're going in this there is some structure yeah definitely okay so now I've just said that on there I'm going to go to another type of process group which I got trained in so I did transaction analysis training group training and for all those years I've told you about there while I was 65 64 I run in a hybrid style towards the end of my running good life if you like I've got trained in what I'm going to talk about now relational group process so I'm adding the word relational in front of it yeah and in fact whether it's the couple of months time wherever it is I'm going to be running a relational group process at a conference and teaching of it I anyway I learned got trained in this I was still running groups hybrid way and I didn't change it if I was to come out retirement now at 72 and run a psychotherapy group I'd run a relational group process I actually think it's harder to run okay needs a lot of training and experience now people this and this might disagree and that's fine I don't want to minimize um how the training or how uh some how difficulties or whichever way we're going to talk about this hybrid group therapy is but I do want to say running relational group process no needs training but needs skill and I think person needs to be trained uh quite deeply in this and perhaps move up from individual therapy to you know get trained to be able to run groups in this way so let's just talk about relational group process so if I stepped out from retirement now to do it I would take eight people I'll probably have two hours I'll probably get a contract for what that is a group group relational process and then what comes out of it uh you know I will make sure that I am involved potent and provide psychological protection in the group uh and we can debrief after it yeah and I out of the two hours I probably do maybe an hour and a half while I'd have the actual group process and then I debrief from it I think that's the way I do it okay so the relational group process number one is in us and it's not an I okay so it's always us it's always built on co-creating co-creation construction and a relational whole and it's putting respect, phenomenological enquiries, the methodology, involvement, potency and a collective experience at the height of the one and a half hours process so I'd probably start it by giving some educational principles out now if I was running it regularly I'm not going to say the same principles every week obviously but if I was to start one at the beginning I would talk about the importance of collective collectiveness the importance of transparency the importance of genuineness the importance of speaking and taking ownership of the I in other words if you are going to speak in the group that you need to talk from your own experience and not speak for someone else because it's your experience and not somebody else's if you're going to challenge somebody you would do it respectively from when I'm okay you are okay position and I would talk about these sort of principles and I'd talk about normalization and I'd talk about the idea that if you trace back what any of these issues are about in context they will all have meaning and that you know normalization is part of the process where I will have made meaning of what might seem a crazy situation as normal in the context where those issues came from so I would I would accept principles for the group yeah like I'm talking about now I'll start the group say over to you but I would also be really important to involve myself in the relational group process so if people if some people were drawn I might well say when there was the right time for example I noticed that you're quite what's drawn in the group would you mind you know is it okay for you just to um let us know what's happening internally as you as you're so as you know what's happening internally from that withdrawn place so I would you know be aware a bit like a symphony it goes up and down and there's a balance of crescendos and different things so I would be always aware of the balance in the group and so if one person's going to challenge another group I will make sure there's a time for eternal experience and ownership of what's happening yeah thinking of relational needs in the group that may or may not be met and then I would involve myself in saying maybe looking at how the past has been played out in this relational group process and what different coping mechanisms they might want in a different scenario or whatever it is so I would in other words I would be playing an active role in involving myself in the success in the success of a relational group process okay so everybody would hopefully have time to express their internal world what's happening internally in an external protective collective group yeah so when you start off and you say over to you then one person would say well actually this week um I've had a bit of a conflict with my husband they came on from work and this happened and that happened and then the other people would join in with their experience of it yeah if that actually happened I'll go on through this yeah so you said all that I would then say oh unless you've had a difficult time and as I hear you're sharing some of this internal process what would you like from the group as she shared okay comes in and says you know when you said that I felt a real hanging my heart because I've had I really I really have some identification with that and xxx and then I might then keep with the person who said what they said that they've had a hard week and say oh as this person says this what's the impact of their care or whatever it is on your yourself right yeah and encourage that person to say something back and then encourage that person to say something back and then if somebody else wants to come in they might want to come in yep yeah starting to think of how the past gets presented collectively in the group and what the group or individual members of the group how they respond in an empathic way or not yeah because not everybody's going to react in an empathic way and I was taking notes and one of the things that you said was respectfully challenge so it's not like everybody has to be in total agreement with what people are saying it's about respectfully challenging so somebody might say for example oh you know when you said you had a really hard day and everything I also see that you were laughing there and that really jolted me because that seems a willing conch once between the laughter and the real drudgery of the day and I was wondering what that meant for you and for me it meant that I couldn't I found it hard to take you seriously yeah I can see it being quite a powerful experience to be part of of that oh yeah because we do it naturally well us women tend to do it naturally where we we ask for other people's opinion do you know what I mean if we've got an issue we often tend to talk about it with different groups of people you know I were friends I will work colleagues I were families whatever it is so I suppose it's just a similar way of exploring that but in a safer therapeutic environment rather than just getting a load of random people's opinion on whatever is going on in your life at the moment well I think there's something specifically healing about energy a collective energy of a group yeah I think that's the dimension I really want to say and the other thing is the word relational is really important here I think there's a healing thing to a group if it's led in the right way that's why I started I think that's the key to it is that there is somebody at the helm it's like social media you know Facebook groups that say that it's a support group but there's nobody actually leading the way and it just ends up a bitchfest or something 100 correct the that's why I said at the beginning that the the therapist of this type of group yeah trained needs to be active and very proactive and involving themselves absolutely the protection of the members of the group yeah yeah so you touched on it with this and I'm kind of interested in this but were you are you saying that you're doing a training course on this no I did one I did an integrative psychopath for 11 years Richard Erskine and then in that training there was a whole training on relational groups therapy now we're now into I don't know I'm 60 now I didn't want to change my groups which have been running for a long time in a completely different style when I look back at my career and sometimes I wish I had because I think I do see the power of Goulding's individual hybrid groups but I really like the healing energy of a collective group yeah different way yeah I'm just I think I'm just curious because at the moment I'm seeing a lot of couples in therapy and I can see how this potentially is quite healing you know for the individuals to be in a group setting to be able to talk and learning about relationships different relationships the relationship we have with ourselves as well as the relationships that we have with other people and how they can impact on us so yeah I can see it being really useful it is and and you might start with a theme of these types of groups you could start with a theme you can say well what I'd like to perhaps have a theme of this you know relational group where it would be the concept of shame and we come from a history where shame you know we often feel shame based on the teaching style in the western world is often we carry a lot of our shame with us and I was wondering who would like to start yeah so we could have themes to the each relational group process I'm not going to bring a theme in when I do this relational group enquiry and teach of it I'm just going to start I'll start with the principles like I have now and then I'll just say over to you but I do know that in terms of protectiveness I have a very involved and protective involving a proactive style I think it's really important in this that the therapist also is relational you know it's like it's your part all of you including the therapist is part of a relational whole and the therapist is the leader in many ways like the or you know the leader of an orchestra yeah the conductor yeah if you like and that's why I said it takes quite a bit of training yeah yeah it's not easy you don't just get collecting people to do you know this is a this is a this needs experience therapist I think really yeah and I've been part of these groups and I understand the power of them and I think you're the really did hit the nail on the head and that the success of relational group processes oh the success of the early ones from the other podcast I talked to more individual style it's the therapist the power and potency of the therapist yeah so when you're saying an experienced therapist needs to do this what what kind of experience are you talking the amount of time that they've been a therapist or the training that they've had or does it does it both both okay definitely yeah that experience individually on the clinical level and I think they need also to have training and when a relational group process and I think they need to try it perhaps in the training first where they got some practice yeah it's also a different way of thinking it's not an eye it's not of them and us it's a whole yeah a relational whole where respect where transparency whether an encouragement on taking ownership of the self are all be requisites yeah I like this oh yeah I think it's I was trained by Richard Erskine in this and if people want to look at a very good article on relational group process in the way that I'm talking about here go to his website which is all one world I'm going to give all one word integrative psychotherapy.com go to his website which is Erskine's website press on the left hand side articles and I've put pop about 50 articles and I think it's the number eight the ninth down is called something like a relational group process and it's a very good article on the principles behind what I'm talking about and read it several times the philosophy is very important in terms of the integrative whole I'm talking about but I think it would be something enlightening people might find and they might like that way of doing groups and some of the principles and the discussions and the ideas are very enlightening I think. I'm going to go and read that article Bob because I'm really interested in you've you've tweaked my interest. It's a it's an important one and I like talking about it and also I'll be doing it shortly myself and I was thinking as I was talking to you know maybe I could have started this early in my career I thought I was of I know I was a very good individual sorry just backtrack a bit but when you're saying you're saying I'm going to be starting this myself in a bit what are you talking about starting. Oh sorry is that what I said I didn't mean to say I'm going to be running this group with a conference soon. Right okay what can people find out about that? Oh well that's closed now it's on the Richard Erskine website because he runs the International Integrative Psychotherapy Association and they have a really big biannual conference which is in Bilbo later in June sometime I can't remember the day I'm going to now I think it's June the 20th I don't know June the 12th or something like that so and the conference is full but it's run every two years so you know it's a good thing. I have done a relation I think I don't know how many years ago it was and it was one of his conferences so it may have been it was way before the pandemic I ran a group of probably eight people in a relational group inquiry and taught off it and that was very successful so it's a very powerful way of doing group therapy yeah in my opinion.  Absolutely and people listening to this I hope you found it interesting it took my thoughts about relational group process and please go back to the previous podcast we did last week which explains the individual style group therapy that I talked about and all the different classifications and different styles of psychotherapy group because I certainly don't want the listeners to get caught up thinking there's only one style because there's many you might have been trained in many different modalities and many different ways to do those groups and that's fine that's completely fine because I'm a real fan of difference rather than right and wrong. Yeah yeah and it's a valid point that if people have just caught this episode they won't know that this is part two of a two-parter yeah which we added on because there was so much information but I think it's a really good topic that you know it's not just individual therapy that you know there are group therapies that you can get supporting under them one different ways and we're just exploring some of them. Yeah and it's really interesting because things go into circles and waves and goodness knows well when I first started in my training transaction analysis in 1985 psychotherapy groups were the vogue of the day and I would say the late 1980s and all through the 1990s beginning of the 2000s in Manchester this is where I'm doing the podcast from was very very vogue for group psychotherapy and maybe also in the country and certainly in the transaction analysis movement we go forward now to 2023 and in Manchester in the transaction analysis community I don't I perhaps know two or three groups wow so individualism and individual therapy has taken prime permission and I wonder what that says about the culture in 2023 and the rising we need to make a shift Bob maybe we need to be introducing groups I can see where there is a big need for groups yeah definitely all those wonderful things I just talked about so it's his interest in 2023 especially in transaction analysis community I don't hardly know any groups we need a resurgence of groups Bob you need to get back in training I'll sign up I'll be the first one it's start again yes right okay until next week so we'll probably do the the tissues and teas in the therapy process next time is that what it's called well that we kind of put that one off and decided to do part two IIT and tissues in the psychotherapy room and the importance and understanding of the dynamics oh absolutely that'll be a great podcast yeah so that's what we'll be doing next week so until next time Bob thank you so much I've thoroughly enjoyed these last two episodes guys and lovely to have the opportunity to talk about the different styles and purpose and structure and admin of groups brilliant see you next time yes bye bye you've been listening to the therapy show behind closed doors podcast we hope you enjoyed the show don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review we'll be back next week with another episode


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