160 kilometres since our lunch amongst the windmills, we're now officially visitors in the Hawks Bay. We're regrouping here before we make our way into the sunny city of nature.


All right, all right everybody What is going on? I hope you're all doing well. I'm doing absolutely fantastic We're nearly there man number two Antonio Brown why I've received it for the Steelers now before I start this video guys I Want to talk about What what I've seen of I have actually done a video on Antonio Brown before but I hadn't seen him speak To the camera and there's one guy that is really It's really just hit me You know, I don't know if it's his confidence because he knows he's so good or because he's just got that demeanor that sort of laid back like happy like I Don't know really smiley all the time Just just a faint little little smirk.  It's insane. Anyways guys Antonio Brown Why receive for the Steelers? He's number two on the top 100 players of 2018.  I like him He watched the show There he is Do you watch the show? Of course Number one shirt Man, it's a lot of great guys that I hope that I'm hired in number four Yeah I don't know man. Might be the teeth. He's got some insanely perfect teeth. I think that's what it might be Jeepers look at them pearly whites, all right Oh your hands like a video game So he'd be super Mario just bouncing that's kind of how he plays like when he's running his rocks He's like just bouncing from like, you know to the hash to the 50 yard line to the bed number to that It's about somewhere on the field and this part of zone. I'm gonna go to that part of zone I'm gonna go to this part of zone. I'm gonna catch the ball Dumb around pass everybody scored Big Ben Rothersburg Bad record Not a bad record Ricochet It looks different Super human Maybe he's the best player I've ever seen in person, you know, I mean the double T doesn't matter Maybe you can beat the double team every time Get them Thursday night and do that guy was crushing it There was nothing positive that came out of that film for us Dude, did I catch the ball on his helmet? Like that's ridiculous, you know Well, I haven't seen one of those Whose kids growing up in the same neighborhood and playing sound like football with him Ben, he throws to the far sideline Hey, look, you're joking I see it 24-7 it's in practice It's walkthroughs. It's when he catches the ball immediately.  It was 28 to 28 and we were about to get the ball with 30 seconds left And everybody was looking at me. He was like, he looked right at me. He was like, Joe, don't worry about it I got y'all And him being so confident and so chill on the sideline I was like, if AV goes out here it makes this happen. He's the goat And what happened? Did he do it? He went out there and made it happen For the left side for Brown makes a catch out of that No way Let me see this Probably the best catch ever to know. Let me see this. I'm standing right there too. Like I'm not oh, wow The first thing comes to my head. I'm like, yo, that's a catch. Okay, because obviously you'd be like, okay Who caught the ball first? It's ab He's known for his 20 taps And that's what he does like shit, man Okay, so if I ever catch if I ever see ab catch a ball Close to the sideline and I think no, that's got to be out. That's got to be out I'll definitely be looking for the the replay because For whatever reason He always seems to have his toes in The drag the toe drag You got it. I've got to get that man. If I'm going to be catching the ball near the sideline I've got to start getting used to doing this toe drag trying to get two toes in Yeah, there's no way he's just caught that ball like there's no way and then they started reviewing Brown tries to scrape that right foot far out. That's so good That is so good. And I just kind of looked up at the thing and was like, wow, he just caught that ball Place and drag baby Place drag was bad Place and drag Catch the ball place your first one and drag the second one Thanks, ab Thanks for that advice, bruh That is some nice advice Oh, I remember the way you said it man. Place and drag baby. Just place and drag Love this guy, man. He's just caught that ball.  Place and drag baby Place drag was bad I didn't know from down the dragon was back. So it's all about Tell me this guy's not old. Tell me he's gonna play for heaps more years. Please Please please please He's 30 Oh, he's been playing since 2010 jeepers He was 195th pick in round number six in 2010. He's made six pro bowls Only missing out in 2012 Man Sweet I've seen in a very long time Tony totem Tony t Since 2013 Antonio Brown has the most receptions and most receiving yards of any player in nfl history over a five-year span And what was that over is the most receptions and most receiving yards of any player in nfl history over a five-year span Antonio Brown in the historic Starts to stack up with a place and drag In 2017 place in drag. No, not that one Place and drag And nearly fly to the top of this year's top 100 Antonio Brown has a chance to be the greatest of all receivers I only want you The only way to top among this year's list You'd have to be the greatest of all time Who's that? I wonder Oh there he is Tom Brady Man, I've been looking forward to watching this for ages, man.  We're here. I cannot I can't believe it, man Oh, I can't believe it. We're doing it. All right guys. That was that was Antonio Brown I I've been looking forward to seeing him for for probably about 50 players and we finally have You know having bell and brown on the same team with big Ben Rothesberger. I can't wait to see the Steelers play this year Um, geez. I've seen how heaps of players from the Steelers Heaps of them and from the the Vikings. I honestly think the Vikings would have to be the team that I've seen the most players from Would that be right? I just feel like I've seen a hell of a lot of purple and then red and then uh black and yellow as well, so I don't know. I don't know, but I'm getting there. Anyways guys. Look if you have liked this video If you've liked this series, if you want to support me and this channel, please press like if you want to subscribe, please do And I'll see you back here in 30 seconds to watch the last video for the top 100 players of 2018 Tom Brady Let's do this shit. Peace out


Let's make the best trigger smash potatoes in less than two minutes. We'll start out with three pounds of baby gold potatoes and two tablespoons of melted beef tallow or Butter or your choice of fat anything works here toss that together Make sure they're evenly coated and then those are going on the trigger at 500 degrees for about 20 minutes You want them to be fork tender and just as soon as they're fork tender and cook through we'll pull those off We don't want to pick up too much color here Then you add another four tablespoons of beef tallow or your choice of fat Toss it all together and the residual heat will melt that make sure they're evenly coated and then we'll season with a teaspoon of Garlic powder black pepper dried rosemary and red pepper flakes the red pepper is optional But I think it really gives it a nice kick Then we'll use the bottom of a glass or I like to use a Yeti tumbler You want to make sure it's heat proof to smash these and I'm arranging these on a half sheet pan It's going to be pretty crowded you may need to arrange things kind of put them up the sides or You could split this between two sheet pans That's probably the best way to get these extra crispy But I just wanted to make sure these would all fit on one half sheet pan and as you can see Barely fits but it fits the sheet pan goes back on the trigger at 500 degrees for 30 Maybe up to 40 minutes to get these as crispy and golden brown as you want if you do split them into two sheet pans They may cook a little bit faster. So keep an eye on these be careful not to burn Once they're to your liking hit them with a little kosher or flaky salt Some fresh parsley or chives and they're ready to serve as a side dish You'll see your thinner ones will be almost extra crispy like potato chips and your thinner ones will be a little bit fluffy inside With the crispy golden brown exterior and those edges will be nice and crunchy You can serve these as a side dish or fix these up a little sour cream bacon cheddar chives Whatever you want. Hope you enjoy these be sure to like and subscribe for more videos


guys we're doing a hardcore classic wow this is one of the most like buggy like annoying dungeons that a lot of people die on if you die you have to delete your character and then we gotta kill last oh like it's fine chat i won't fall dude does he have bounced me does he have bounced me guys i think it's time i need to assemble the best of the best of the best sir to enter no mergon i'll dps but i'm doing a no chest challenge if that's cool nips out baby i'm doing a no chest challenge dude okay cone in the barbarian high tinker megatork has given me the task to venture into no mergon and slay thermal plug i'm not afraid of a good battle i'll come if there's room in your party ah yes cone in the barbarian returns our two-handed leather fury warrior we have a rep paladin we have a warrior no mergon's a big big dungeon chat it's a big boy this is not going to be easy there's a few options for some good weapons here crowd pummler thermal plugs left arm you will need a burglar to test simply saves home defense i may not be the most honorable or bravest rogue that's it that's the end of my pitch no we're not we have simply save on our side okay we have to fight against no mer's defenses yeah okay actually you know what yeah invite c dank invite yeah okay you've got me all of blooder yo here's the plan chat i have assembled the best team we have cone in the barbarian we have evil coat rack the road we have c dank the warrior and of course the only thing that's going to keep us safe in this dungeon in no mergon simply safe okay we need simply save without simply save there is no way that we can defeat no mergon there's no safe like simply safe let's go do this thing i can trust simply save to keep me safe unlike certain streamers that killed our teammates for content i did not do that season here we are here's our group guys i have assembled the best of the best okay evil coat rack the rogue c dank the warrior cone in the barbarian and of course simply safe all right simply save the dwarf priest guys there's no safe like simply safe remember that we're gonna go into no mergon and nobody is gonna die there is not a single person that has died in any of my dungeon runs yet nobody has died and nobody will die why because we got this guy on our side okay we got simply safe it's gonna be perfectly fine all right it's gonna be perfectly fine we're gonna go in there look i know this dungeon like the back of my hands okay i know vanilla like the front of my hands i know burning crusade like the side of my hands okay i know my hands better than most other people know their hands why because i have two hands that i use two-handed weapons why again because i'm a rep okay absolutely so i'm gonna take these guys in there we're gonna go one shot this thing blindfolded eyes closed hands tied behind the back playing with our feet okay that's how easy this is gonna be unlike the automated robots my monitoring system has live agents ready to react to respond to any alarm they will reach out to you promptly confirming your well-being and dispatching help and emergencies it's like having a team of highly skilled engineers and adventurers at your service indubitably very good thank you simply safe can you uh tell us about that special offer that you mentioned last time i think don't wait don't forget to heal while you're telling us that special offer i'm glad you asked us man in recognition of your quest through nomeran i have a special offer for you by signing up for an interactive monitoring plan you can save 20% on a simply safe security system and enjoy your first month free it's an opportunity to acquire top notch protection for a fraction of the price sick well simply save you're so cool helpful also very good at advertising okay hey we do need to be careful this is the easy part of the dungeon okay this is the easy part i feel like this is this is how nomergan gets you okay this is how nomer gets you he kind of puts you to sleep a little bit like they like lull you to sleep and then bam haymakers all of a sudden you get like an alarm bot is coming after you and you got aggro from halfway across the dungeon and it's just a nightmare okay so we got to be you know yeah you got to stay on your toes here oh box of parts for engineering oh what is this blastmaster emmy short fuse such devastation such dev dude final fantasy stole this from classic wow look over there at the tunnel wall which which wall is it that one of that one i think it's this one trogg incursion oh no defend me while i blast the hole closed dervish belt of arcane wrath oh nice grads conan as they club at three people in a group dying oh my gosh dude dude i've died to that before and in real i'm not in real life and i've done that before in uh like normal like actually playing the game i'm like scared to get close because i don't remember when they explode i think it's like pretty obvious oh the charges are set get back before they blow that's band two oh no incoming blast in five seconds clear the tunnel stay back well done without your help i would never have been able to thwart that wave of troggs of course did you hear something heard something over there surely another tunnel won't open at this precise moment yes of course not oh no we're a little bit high level for the the so no more not it's such a big dungeon in vanilla wow the range of what levels that you do a dungeon is kind of high so like the very beginning of a dungeon will be much easier than the very end of a dungeon like these are like level 25 and then like the last boss is like 34 this would never happen if no we're gonna have simply safe of course you're absolutely right bogus but absolutely 10 seconds to blast okay stand back everybody we come from below you can never stop us wait chomper and grubbus durable hat of stamina 12 stamina hat dude you want simply stay to say Dave look at that big old helmet well let's see let's let's see the drip chat right here ready um we gotta we gotta check the drip okay simply say put it on we'll see it super because your help my people stand the chance of retaking our beloved city three cheers to you sick hell yeah oh they have rockets wait are we stealing is this illegal simply say are we stealing or is this okay no comment okay hammer of justice so you can see they're starting a little bit higher level now like 27 and that boss was 32 yeah that boss by the way drop some big big gloves we didn't get them it's only like eight percent chance they dropped okay so let's see the next boss that we're gonna fight viscous fallout you drop some big cloth boots big dagger real big dagger for a uh for rogues and then uh a staff that's you breathe underwater that's the big boys that dagger why is the damage meter inverted i mean it's not inverted i'm i'm doing i do big damage okay that's why i'm close to the top or at the top every okay well there's my first one just complain that's how you get what you want all right you guys get that guy taken care of i gotta do something real quick wait what is this wait i've actually never been on we i've never been on this thing what i've always either jumped down or gone down the room my weakness the one thing i'm scared of oh no conan's afraid of heights oh no i will keep you safe conan have no fear yes simply save is right simply save will keep you safe don't worry do hey be careful i almost i almost stepped in the crack never use your stun to help your friends no i save it for if something bad happens and then i need to stun then uh then it's not on cooldown just like you saved your blessing of protection okay relax simply save that wasn't trying to make a joke huge red dips i'm out of mana okay you guys never say anything whenever my damage is good you guys just say whenever my damage is bad look see that oh here's our punch cards we gotta use our punch cards here okay if you don't have a card the binary says no mercy without the card it says no mercy with the card it says kiss me i'm nomish wait the binary says the lich king lives isn't vanilla wow the punch card says the lich king lives how do they know wrath wasn't even hell yet kernoby what what happened the last thing i remember is being captured by a group of dark iron dwarves beaten to within an inch of my life and then thrown in here with these filthy troggs get me out of here adventurer here's the plan lead me to the exit if we make it out alive you go to booty bay and let scooty know that i went to ratchet self-destruct sequence what is he doing simply save be nice okay stop making fun of the other alarms okay well let's escort him and then we'll come back here anti-escape countermeasures self-destructing 20 seconds oh my gosh run hurry kernoby that was close that was close don't leave well he wasn't he wasn't coming he was just sitting there he's like time is money friend and he's like just sitting there just like waltzing on his own like dude hey yo in 20 seconds self-destruct you're not leaving left him behind just like you left seeding whenever i fought okay i got 13 grime encrusted objects i've never seen such technology yes conan this is what we use to clean isn't it can you get like actually like rare items for this mine headed nowhere on amulet of the tiger in it is this gamble kind of this feeling i need more grime encrusted object well it's easy all you got to do is pay five dollars to get a pack of 20 of them no more gone amulet of the bear wait dude you guys got sick necklaces i don't have a necklace okay we got to keep on moving you play very well thank you dude every time you know it's money you know like sometimes like something happens in your life and you remember like these are like pivotal moments like something happens in a certain scenario and then you always associate that thing with the thing that happened wait i didn't even see that was the boss the dagger dropped viscous fallout drop the tag and drop the dagger for evil co-wrack like when i'm when my my wait like when when when like when my wife met her boyfriend yeah no exactly so like for me one of those things with reddit it was like early like classic wow beta and people were talking about i can't wait for these streamers these streamers to get exposed for how bad they are at the game right it was just one thing and then people were talking about oh yes i've watched asmingold quite a bit and he's never you know he uh he needs you to a better job at xyz you know and like some idiot okay some moron was like comparing me to asmin was like yeah i was watching s-fan play instead and i've noticed how he uh like he's like quite good at rebuffing his uh his teammates in his party and making sure the buffs don't drop i imagine like a group of like just a group of people just sitting in robes and leather chairs like sipping wine like oh yes excuse it i've i've seen his buff uptime it was rather rather good bro like what like what are you guys talking about okay we're gonna try that okay look at the this is the first time nomish universal remotes ready yeah i'm attacking i'm attacking do i get any attacks with this oh wait i just gave it blessing a might oh frick no not the defense units buff your enemies buff your enemies challenge i'm not gonna 07 it's fine okay hey if any water drops by the way if there's any water that drops off a mob don't loot it because i'm out of water i should have two water but i'm wondering him i just have almost no water it was the mighty righteous dude i wish accident i wish honestly the the more and more i think about it if they do make any changes i would love for them to find a way to add seal twisting back in whether whether it was like adding seal of blood or finding a way to make seal of righteousness like worth twisting the two classic clothes are the best iteration of each class well the problem is if you have a lot of people if you ask the average person what the best iteration of rep paladin is they'll say wrath but a lot of rep palins say it's burning crusade i i just i love burning crusade red so much chat you know what else performs well simply safe you notice that we haven't died yet because we have simply safe on our side okay there's no safe like simply safe okay let's see who's gonna win the battle of the centuries mechanized entry versus mechanized century s-fans minion let's see who wins i think i won wait he took the artifact yoink wait this is actually gonna end before uh my channeling is gonna end before they die before he dies wait he has battle shout wait can i bop him wait i used blessing of protection on him and it used the cooldown but he didn't keep the buff seeding is gonna die now no seeding is fine he's not gonna die wait i wonder i wonder what happens if i mind control the mobile alert system simply say be nice to the nomer gun alert system okay they're not as advanced as you simply say if seeding is gonna die oh hey we got two groups let's pull them back against the wall pull them back around the pillar i mean around the pillar and we're gonna fight them right here ready aim yeah we we talked about it already chris we talked about the beginning stream already peacekeeper peacekeeper frick i can use my loud hands on accidents wrong cooldown wait pacify pacifies an enemy rendering an unable to attack for 10 seconds oh frick it went out of my range okay okay um we are ready to go everybody is buffed up good all right justice nope doesn't work oh he's immune it said he's immune electrocutioner's leg holy okay time for the red punch card let's see what the red punch card says the gnome king wears night elf underwear play more wow help i'm trapped in a binary punch card factory very good okay so here we are we have let's see what we have left we have we've got to go kill crowd pummler uh dark iron ambassador is a rare spawn if he's around then we have the last boss to mech janear thermo plug okay so before we go simply safe nomer gun is filled with robotic devices and alarms okay we've seen a lot of them already how do your security devices compare to those that are here excellent question s man while nomer guns robots and alarms may be impressive my security devices are far superior my entry sensors utilize uh advanced technology providing you with precise notifications when triggered additionally i have high definition cameras they grant you crystal clear views of any area requiring production production you'll have an unprecedented level of situational awareness throughout nomer gun nice sick very good simply safe that's good stuff very good nice i got a new weapon this will help me defend myself from threads just like simply safe helps me defend my home from intruders absolutely c dank absolutely intruder alerts oh look dude good job simply safe dude simply taking out the competition okay so we have two more quests left right one no we have three more explain no consecrate i'm retribution look i'm a gigachat ret paladin okay i'm not gonna level as holy that's the easy mode mc a mechano tank okay this one's mine now dude this thing does no damage the chute does no damage knocking back no oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh oh my gosh dude i i bopped him as soon as he jumped into the air dude oh my gosh dude oh my dude that was terrifying okay crowd pummeler do i want this um manual crowd pummeler like i feel like we pass i need this guy i need like a corp smaker better than smites i mean yeah i would take i would take it as uh i would take it for conan yeah conan you should take this i do think it'll be better rats yeah but we don't have a druid you guys keep saying druid there's no druid why you guys keep saying druid oh frost yeah yeah look at that ice blast wait what what are you doing what are you doing to me what is he casting on me wait are we like in a like tug of war like ice blast okay let's see we have almost all of our quest done we have two more punch cards i think or is it one more and then we got to kill the last oh like it's fine chat i won't fall dude does he have bounced me does he have bounced me i've never seen it bounce me okay explosive sheep boom guys we're doing a hardcore classic wow we're doing a dungeon right now this is one of the uh this is one of the most like buggy like annoying dungeons that a lot of people die on if you die you have to delete your character okay yeah we are we're approaching the danger zone okay this is the part that gets a real sketch things are buggy you got to be careful we have to uh stick to the walls don't walk in the middle of the room things are actually like this is sketch get that hearth ready no i'm no we're not gonna need a hearth okay yeah if the mind if a mind drops if one of these dark eye agents drop a mind we have to kill the mind immediately look at these see now these guys are like r level or higher 33 the early part of the dungeon is easy but now is whenever it gets tough guys i said this earlier okay as you can see i've gathered the best of the best all right i've gathered the the best possible team that you could possibly have in all of world of wow okay we have cone in the barbarian we have sea dink the war the warrior evil coat rack the rogue and of course we have simply safe okay there's no safe like simply safe exclamation point simply safe in the chat you want to be safe you want to get through these dungeons of course we got to have simply safe healing us all right so we're going to go in there we're going to kill mech janeer therma plug who's taking over nomergon and he's been oppressing the gnomes so much so that they've had to come into iron forge with their cousins the dwarves all right so let's go do this thing hey simply safe can you move i'm trying i'm walking here walked into an apothecary can you move so give me some chapstick and put it on my bill seeding already catch up on a new tune seeding died yesterday and he already made another character and he's already level 33 arcane nullifier oh well this is awkward can you remind how seeding died i don't remember oh phalanx smallers of the bear big shoulders dude big shoulders okay guys we've got two arcane nullifiers lepros machines machine smiths okay this is a big group is a big pack that guy here i'm going to use my gnomish universal remote and i'm going to make all of them attack him and then they're going to kill him and then we're going to go in okay what if it fails sounds fine okay here we go okay it worked it worked okay we're going to let them kill this guy i'm going to use my reflection field these guys even cast spells i don't know okay wait actually dude i'm actually doing pretty well here okay so we killed one of them dude this is actually kind of owning wait this thing is almost dude this thing's a freaking machine it's not even it's almost dead but like it's not even that bad it killed three of them on its own here we go dude that was sick that was actually kind of sick okay now hold on before we pull guys before we pull before we pull before we pull simply safe your level of precision visual coverage has been invaluable in navigating nomergan's treacherous terrain i'm grateful to have your advanced security by my side no matter what happens here except don't let us die but also no matter what happens here this has been incredible you've kept us alive i'm honored to be your guardian s-fan remember your safety is my utmost priority both in game and in real life let's continue to conquer nomergan with confidence knowing that my superior protection will see us through indubitably yes absolutely absolutely simply save don't forget to check out my exclusive offer at simply save.com slash s-fan together we will emerge victorious yes of course of course of course guys uh-huh rp before dying we're not gonna die thank you yes simply save.com slash s-fan chat check out that link there's no safe like simply safe okay ready let's do this it's time the vinyl boss walking bomb knock away it's gonna knock somebody back it's gonna knock back dude this this boss is actually much easier than uh like this boss actually has like crazy mechanics but like kind of a norm because like these bombs are coming at you and you're supposed to go and you're supposed to like turn off the my machines in the future no no simply save is the future oh charge gear of the tiger big ring big rolls let's see what happens c-dank is rolling cone and the barb is rolling i'm rolling evil corack passed c-dank is the winner congrats c-dank charge gear the tiger very good no nice we did it we cleared no we're gone nobody died did he escort the goblin oh yeah so we okay these are the amount of quests you get goblin escort plus one two three four five six seven eight so there's nine quests i think there's a good chance that we end up getting like a full level dude whenever c-dank got knocked back here i was so scared dude time to get a corpse maker ooh do we go rfk today all right guys can we get one more big hearts in the chat for simply save for keeping us alive today we made it we made it we survived big hearts in the chat for simply to have keeping us alive today don't worry little gnome your home is safe true we don't have homes well you do now because the gnomes got their home back high tinker mecha torque i like to think that i'm dead our plans grip runner dungarees okay yeah unfortunately these are just garbage dude we got almost a full level by the way from all of that we got almost an entire level chat i think here's a plan rfk


recall command in IGP Shutsun.  So today we're gonna start teaching this command, recall, and I usually break it down in several steps. One is that I'm working on recall, another one is when I'm teaching the dog to be straight sitting in front of me. That's a different exercise. Today we're gonna focus only on recall and the requirement is to start doing this. Your dog needs to know command sit or lay down down or plucks and stay. So you can leave the dog somewhere, walk to the point and then recall the dog. And when I work on this exercise I usually work on the speed. The dog needs to be quick running to you. So that's all we're gonna do today. Just recalling, building up the speed, make sure that the dog understands the command because it's the first time I will introduce it to him. I usually I use command come. And it's pretty fun because it's just more or less running. But one thing that I do is that I use, I don't know if you guys can see, I use poles. And I don't need poles for the recall in the dog, but I will need them later when I will sit the dog in front of me to be straight. Poles will help me guide the dog to make sure the dog knows the straight position in front of me. So but because I use it eventually and I'll connect the two exercises, recall in the dog and then sitting, that there is a why in this training I always use poles so the dog runs through the between the poles when I call him. So let's see how it works. But no, with the poles which is fine, but he needs to run to run through them and then straight to me. So we'll keep doing this. There is no problem in having the dog run fast. As you can see he really likes it. It's fun for him and he figured very quickly he needs to run through. Typically when I will keep training with this, I'll leave him further and further out so it's longer distance so he can really build up the speed. I can do it because the camera won't capture how far he is sitting. But that's pretty much the gist of it and we'll keep practicing until the next step. Happy training!


Welcome to the ITU Plenty Potentiary Conference 2018 in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates. I'm very pleased to be joining the studio this morning by Belinda Rexelby, who is head of international relations for GSMA. Belinda, welcome to the studio. Morning, Max. Thank you for having me. Good to see you. I just wanted to start off by asking you a little bit about the fact that there's considerable attention being placed on harnessing the power of ICTs of information and communication technologies as an enabler for good, for development, benefit of the people, families, communities, even nations. What's your personal perspective on this? Well, I think you only have to look around to see the power of ICTs on our lives today in all parts of the world. It's just astonishing how much transformation they've brought about. In particular, I think there are two things that are so particularly impressive. One is the ability of ICTs to transform and bring life-enhancing services to other sectors. So, for example, the financial services sector, healthcare, education, and that's really having a transformative effect. And the second is just the power of ICTs to really reach out to people who are in areas, rural areas perhaps, where they might not have access to a lot of these services and really bring about transformation in their lives. And I think the mobile industry in particular has been very good at both of these facets. And although we still talk a lot about the connectivity gap and it's very important that we close that, if you look at pure mobile services, not just internet, 93% of the global population now have access to a mobile phone, which is more than some people have access to basic services such as electricity or sanitation or water. So, I think it's revealing how far the ICTs have come in such a short space of time. Now, this plenipotentiary conference is the first one since the world agreed on the Sustainable Development Goals in 2015. I wanted to ask you perhaps a little bit about ICTs and how ICTs are helping to drive sustainable development, how GSMA sees that. Yes, well actually every year the GSMA has published a report since 2015 on the impact that the mobile industry is having on achievement of the SDGs because we're trying to measure specifically what mobile can do. And we launched the last one in September and it found that mobile is having an impact on every single one of the SDGs and that the impact has increased since the previous year. And surprisingly, the four SDGs where it has the most impact are SDG 4 on quality education, SDG 9 on industry innovation and infrastructure, SDG 11 on smart sustainable cities and SDG 13 on climate action. And one example of the latter climate action, you might think that it's not necessarily a goal that would be affected particularly by mobile technology, but this year we've seen 1.6 million households being connected to solar home systems which enable them to have access through mobile enabled pay-as-you-go mechanisms to clean energy, electricity rather than either dangerous or polluting sources that they were using previously. And that's in what countries? Mainly in Africa. In fact, I think we covered something along those lines, ready pay a project that was going on in Kenya, I believe. Exactly, exactly, yeah. And in terms of talking about getting people connected, about half the world's people are currently connected to the internet, the other half is not. I wanted to ask, how does GSMA think it would be the best way to get everyone connected? Well, it's core to our mission at GSMA. Our mobile industry agreed purpose is to connect everyone and everything to a better future. So everything that we do is done through that lens and we're trying very hard to help address the challenges to the connectivity gap. What we do is we work closely with our member operators to promote innovative new services, business models and capacity building. And we also work with governments to advocate for a policy and work that will help to overcome some of the barriers to adoption of internet, such as digital literacy, digital skills, the lack of locally relevant content and, of course, affordability issue. And finally, I just wanted to give you the opportunity. I'm sure you've been having a lot of discussions here at the Plain Potential Conference, but I wanted to give you the opportunity perhaps to spread your message further as well to our wider audience here. Well, what I would just like to conclude on and I think something that's very important in order to close the connectivity gap is we all need to work together. It won't happen on its own, it won't close on its own and there is a role for governments and for the member states of ITU. There is also an important role for the private sector, so the sector members of the ITU and academia. And I would really like to make a plea to ITU and member states to work genuinely with the private sector so that we can all come together and overcome this challenge. Next week, thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much.


Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to this session. I'm Yinchuan Guo from IBM China. I have an English name, Davy. You can call me either way you like. So the gentleman's stand aside is Tom for Field. He's a community manager. He also spends many times with OpenStack, IATN team. So I will have this opportunity to have the talk with him. So I'm from OpenStack, IATN team. The mission of my team is to support OpenStack to become a globalized software. So in this talk, I will cover below questions. What is a successful global community? What have been done in OpenStack and what will be done in the future?  I think maybe most people, maybe most of you may understand this worth, internationalization, localization, globalization. But I will just give a short introduction to make sure we are on the same page. So internationalization is a process of designing software application to make it easily adapted with many languages and regions without any code change. So localization is a process to adapt software with specific regions and languages. So by adding some region-specific components and translating the text. So globalization is a combine of these two. So internationalization is done once when we design the software and implement the software. So localization can be done once you want the software to be adopted to a certain region. So next I will start the talk. What is a successful global community? How to make a successful global community? So I think there is no doubt that OpenStack is a global community. The picture here shows the countries with members in OpenStack Foundation in October 2013. So you see OpenStack has membership among all over the world. So next page, we also have global users. The picture here shows the WebAccess data reported on September. So you see the United States is the biggest visitor to the website. But it's only 30%. So around 70% of the visitors to the website are from the country, which don't speak English, maybe. So OpenStack also has global meetings and user groups. We all know this summit is the first summit to be hosted in outside the U.S. And the percentage among half of the attendees to the summit speaking English and half are not speaking English. So there are around maybe 70 user groups in the website now. So OpenStack has global people. So how about the content? The items I listed here are the regular content in many regular communities. So you'll see software and documents and some promotion materials. For example, our website, our newsletter release notes or something like that. And we also have some tools for community collaboration for example, the wikis and blocks. So do we need all of these contents to be globalized? What's the priority? So maybe some people can argue that OpenStack is an infrastructure level software. It's like an operation system. So people who play with OpenStack may be familiar with English, may be able to write and read in English. But to tell you the truth, I'm a well educated people in China. I have been in a U.S. company for eight years. But if you let me to choose between Chinese language, Chinese document and the English document, I will prefer Chinese document. So reading Chinese document by Chinese people is more easier to make them understandable and to save them time. So here I did an investigation of the famous software communities. So the top line are the regular contents of a community. And the first column is the well-known global communities like Ubuntu, Mozilla, LibreOffice, GNOME, MediaViki, Android. So you'll see Ubuntu is a well-globalized community. There are software and there are documents. There is a Chinese website and there is a Chinese Wiki website for Ubuntu to contain many documents and many useful information. So Ubuntu also have teams named as local community teams. Local community teams will help Ubuntu to do the local promotion and translation. So Mozilla is also a well-globalized community. The website of Mozilla supports tons of languages. So if you think about how many countries use Firefox, you may understand the situation. So the interesting is Android. Android is a platform. So actually the website of Android is not translated at all. But we all know Android can support internationalization to this application running on the Android. And the user interface and the messages are translated in Android. So based on this information, we look into this slide again. So I will mark user interface, messaging, user documents, and the website as a top priority to be translated and globalized. So developer documents, distributed messages, and the Wikis are well to help them globalize. Okay, so I will transfer to Tom to introduce what we have done. Thank you, Daisy. And Daisy has been very kind because she's given me all of the awesome slides to present because the internationalization team of OpenStack has already been quite successful thanks to her work and the work of many people around the world. So I want to run through with you some of our successes. You may have heard of the OpenStack Operations Guide, a book that was produced in a sprint style designed to handle operators to get them up to speed on how to build OpenStack clouds or operate them. This book has been fully translated into Japanese and there are a couple of other languages which are about 70% of the way translated. So right now there are people reading this book in Japanese and it's a 50,000 word book. So this was an amazing achievement of the team. However, the big success for us in the internationalization team was actually to learn about the process for translating books and how it's different from translating strings and code. For example, when you're translating a book you require a lot more context, especially if you're going through the review process to try and determine the quality of the translation. And so the Japanese team invented a system to fix some inadequacies in our tooling to enable this book to be translated and reviewed to a very high quality of language. The other one that you may have seen in the release notes is in the Havana release we've translated the dashboard into 12 different languages. And this is the work of many, many, many people around the world, some of whom worked right into the late evening before release to get these done. And it was a really successful demonstration of how for a code project we were able to create a community around certain languages and translate strings so that nowadays people can, just simply from a drop-down box, select the language that they want to interact with OpenStack in. Sorry, you need to take a photo? Okay, cool. All these slides in the video should be available online. Another success is recently OpenStack Foundation launched a site called Ask OpenStack where anyone could come and ask and answer questions about anything to do with OpenStack. And we decided to try and experiment and make a localized version of this in the Chinese language because as you saw on the statistics that Daisy presented, we have a lot of users who speak the Chinese language coming to our website. And this was actually an example where the OpenStack Internationalization team was able to join another community and help get their translation efforts up to the 100% mark or close to it so we could use their software. Perhaps one of the biggest successes and the foundation for all of these activities is the tool chain. We have a really good tool chain that enables us to go from the code into a translation system and back again. So it means that right now today, whenever someone checks in a code patch or a new document into OpenStack, it's automatically uploaded into a system that translators can then see those strings and immediately start translating. And that happens automatically with every single patch. Similarly, once the translations have been completed, the system will again automatically download those translated strings and put them back in the repository. And we've closed the loop there so that we can make translations available very quickly and we can make the strings available to be translated very quickly. And this was developed in-house mainly by Daisy and has given us a lot of flexibility to change the way that we work depending on how the developers are going. But by far the biggest success we've had is the team and the growth of the team. We have now more than 200 people involved in OpenStack translation. Some of these people may actually not be part of other parts of the OpenStack project at all and in fact are just people who enjoy translating or enjoy language. And this is one of the big differences of this team. It's actually pretty much mostly volunteer-based which makes it very different to the development team where the majority of people are actually paid to work on OpenStack. And so we're really benefiting from people who have skills in multiple languages and are able to join the translation team easily through the interface. And as a result of starting to put a bit more formality around this team and give the internationalization team a place to rest and communicate a weekly meeting, we're now translating more than 100,000 words a month which is effectively translating two copies of the operations guide every month. And that's looking to continue and increase over time. So I now want to just go quickly into a bit about what we've done this week. It's very convenient that we're the final session of the entire conference because we can talk to about the particular sessions we had in the Design Summit. We had four sessions this time in four different tracks amazingly. Translation didn't have its own track at this point but we'll talk a bit about that later. So the first one was Publishing Translated Documentation on the documentation track, specifically talking about full manuals and books rather than code strings. And we had a really robust discussion around how that works and came to the conclusion that documentation is very different to code strings and needs especially a different review process. So we're going to set up something like a staging server where partially translated documents can be viewed. So you can review translated strings in context. Similar to the model that the Japanese team used with the Operations Guide. We also had a session on the Internationalization Policy of Messages. So up until this session, every single message in the code was treated with the same priority, which means a user-facing message and a debug log message were both given the same weighting in terms of translators. We determined that actually user-facing messages should have a higher priority for translation than debug log messages and these kind of things. So we've decided to implement in Oslo a categorization of those messages, which we can use to prioritize a particular message. In addition, when it comes to translating log files, we've determined in order to make them searchable when they are translated into other languages, we need to implement a message ID system for log files. The third session we had was translation tools and scripts from the infrastructure track. This is predominantly about that tool chain we saw before that goes between the code, the translation system, and back. We looked at some of the gaps we've got right now. So we determined, thanks to Ryan over there, that our wiki already has the translate functionality enabled, which means we can easily turn that on and start translating some of the important pages on the wiki that people need. We've also determined that since TransFX is now a closed-source system, meaning we can't extend it to meet our needs, we are starting to look at the open-source alternatives and we've decided to try and work with all of the different open-source translation software to all communities to raise feature requests and try and get those to the same standard that we're having with TransFX today, eventually planning to move on to an open-source platform. And finally, just before this session, we had the Ice House release schedule and coordination session. And we're very pleased with the response from all of the project technical leads in terms of supporting the internationalization effort, giving it an appropriate amount of time for string freeze and translation to happen. We're also aiming to get better communications after the string freeze if there is a need to change a string to pipe that through the internationalization team to ensure that we have complete translations. So I now want to invite Daisy back up from the stage to explain the vision for OpenStack internationalization. So Han wants me to give you a vision of what we are going to do in the future. So for me, I'm going to focus on three items, teaming, tooling, and globalization. So we now have OpenStack IATN team, so most of the team members are translation team coordinators. We all know that internationalization is more than translation. We also want to cover the OpenStack software itself internationalization. So we would like to invite more developers to join this team, and we would like to rename our translation team, for example, maybe China translation team to China localization team. So we also would like to invite developers to join our localization team to support not only translation but also some of the localized work in OpenStack software. So as to tooling, we would like to run a translation platform to support the translation of all the staff in OpenStack community, and we will use the integration tools to do the automation integration with OpenStack infrastructures like the JIT, the website all the weekend. So as to the globalization, of course we will work on the translation, and we will do an IATN test and a report to figure out the gaps in OpenStack internationalization area. So then we will know what are missed in OpenStack. And as a follow-up of the design summit, we will enable the message IDs and separate the message into different domains. So we definitely want more people to join IATN team. So if you are developers, we warmly want you to join our team to work on OpenStack IATN. So OpenStack is a software with a great future. You can go together with this future to, you can go with this software to see how it can be, how it grows a well-globalized software.  If you are not good at developer, maybe you are not want to translate, but you can also join us as a tester.  So Tom will introduce the official program in OpenStack community. So during the Havana cycle OpenStack technical committee determined that there was a need to recognize projects in addition to just the projects that were producing code in some form or way. And in essence, this idea of OpenStack programs was born. So OpenStack programs are simply efforts which are essential to the completion of our mission. And our mission in OpenStack, as I've written there, is to produce the ubiquitous open-source cloud computing platform. And even if you just stop that mission there, you can see straight away that if we are going to be ubiquitous open-source cloud platform, we need to be globalized, we need to be internationalized, we need to be localized. And so I believe that during the Ice House Summit, the internationalization team will request to become an official program of OpenStack. And hopefully that will go well and we'll get the recognition that we can get most off of the internationalization team and get our own summit track, for example. We don't have to go to four different tracks to talk about what we need to. But I believe this is the final slide, Daisy, and you have the text for this, didn't you? Yeah. Yeah. So we want to keep learning, keep growing, and keep working. We've gone through a very, very dramatic change over the past six months in terms of understanding of the needs for internationalization and localization in OpenStack. We've learned a lot about review and tool chain and how to bring community together. And we want to build on that to keep that community growing, keep the momentum up, keep up with the 1,600 software developers who are working to make OpenStack successful around the world. And above all, we're practical people, so we're just going to keep working and keep doing this every day. Thank you, Tom. Sorry. Very good. I believe we now have some time for questions. Yeah. So any questions, comments, suggestions? Right. Right. Yes. Yes. We should have translated these slides into 10 different languages. That's correct. Okay. We'll upload that to TransFX after this talk. Sorry. There was another question. Yes. So we've got people which are really active in more than about 20 or 30 different countries, but there are some less active in even more countries. So yes, we welcome everyone in any kind of languages. And we've also, for example, if you look at the Spanish language, we've had some requests from our friends in Mexico to have a particular localization of Spanish for Mexico in addition to Spanish. So there's lots of flexibility and lots of options and we definitely welcome you. So I believe in Japan, you have a guy called Matoki-san and he's taken up the role of a language coordinator for Japanese. You can either approach him directly or you can just sign up yourself on the TransFX website or you can post on the mailing list introducing yourself. It's whatever is convenient for you. So some countries like Japan have a really well coordinated translation effort and translation team. Other countries just rely on people finding the website themselves and starting translations without any effort. So we can introduce you directly after the presentation, if you wish. I'm paid by IBM. We actually have already had some companies support us. IBM has contributed a significant number of translations. Friends at DGT in Vietnam have contributed a significant amount of translations. The guys at Cloud1 in France are contributing things. So we are getting bits and we're finding that, yes, having it. But I think most of the translators are working in their spare time. And it also, like for some of the languages most populous countries, for example, Napoli or maybe BASC or something like this, it will be challenging to get commercial support. But yes, you're right. We should also continue to investigate commercial support. It seems like everyone wants to sleep and or have a party. And the good news is you have 13 extra minutes to do that. We've said everything we wanted to say. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you.


Meeting for May 3rd of the year 2022 and we have an agenda there. Bruce, if you want to go ahead and put your name and I'll put the, by the way, I'll put the agenda link in the chat there. Right. And take a quick second to look over the agenda and any modifications we need to make anything. Not quite right. Good. I've got a couple of things, but I can add them into AOB. Yeah, that's fine. So, Adam, Adam, where do you think appropriate? Um, why don't you go ahead and do that and I'll cover the 1st item because we'd have that taken care of. So, last week we talked our last meeting. We talked about archiving the community repo Diane put that in Christian signed off on it and actually the community, the old community repo. That has now been archived. So we just need to add those few pages into the current documentation that we wanted to save. And actually, I think you did that. Is there, is there any page that hasn't been moved over yet, Brian? There's no page that hasn't been moved over, but there are a couple of things like the, like the subgroup. Chairs that we haven't actually, right. So, they haven't followed what we said we're going to do in the charter. Right. And, and so I wanted to actually make it public and announce it via Twitter. But it turns out there's a complication with Twitter, which we'll talk about in just a bit. That's the ongoing saga of the Twitter. Okay, so technical documentation. I understand it's a work in progress. Brian, you're still. Yeah, as I said, as we were talking before we started the meeting official, I broke my cluster. So, I spent days sort of trying to work through things and probably made it 10 times worse. So I'm actually going to just trash and rebuild the cluster. Then I can continue with that work. So hopefully there'll be some progress before the next meeting. And I can contribute to my time is going to be freeing up. Okay, great. Yeah, working group repo will be waiting to move things over once we actually have our moving plan, which we'll talk about towards the end of this. I haven't got a chance to do the moving of the working group menu around yet. That will probably happen tomorrow. I'll have some time for that. So some updates that we need to push out is I decided to do this as a Q way. Sorry, frequently asked question FAQ. So we actually get asked a lot about like are they going to many 4.9s. And it makes sense, I think to do an FAQ and then wrap it with some texts that says, by the way, this applies to 4.9. Yeah, go ahead. There is an FAQ section in the community documentation. So probably we can just add it into that. Right. Exactly. Yeah. And the 4.10 blocker is over with now. And there is a new 4.10 section. We should change this that they're okay. The updates new. 4.10 that came out. I haven't updated to that one yet, but I hope to, and that was actually Vadim cut that one. So Christian didn't have access, but Vadim stepped into to cut a release. So that was cool. Deaf testers, we need to push out a request for that. And then CRC push out a request to see if anyone of us, but we got another CRC question or actually a handful of CRC questions since the last meeting. I'm continuously surprised how much CRC attention how much attention is being put on CRC in the community. Well, I mean, in the last, what's the last OpenShift roadmap, they actually did talk around a new effort around CRC for OCB. So I think that might have generated some of the interest because I think they're looking at a ways to cut it down further to give that sort of desktop because the sort of micro shift is an edge that doesn't have the GUI or doesn't have that OpenShift experience where CRC is meant to give you that a personal OpenShift with a very, very similar experience. Although some of the monitoring and the advanced clustering stuff is missing, but you do get that developer UI experience. And I think that's why there's the renewed effort there. It's a bit of a dissonance here because I'd be interested to see how that team has got it getting on, which is talked about the, I forgot what they called it, the group that have their own cloud. They were going to look at that. Right. Yeah. And then for the SEF testers, do we have any instructions because when I first started this group, one of the challenges I had is, how do we set things up? Because a lot of this, the instructions are written for OCP and it assumes that you've got access to the registry with the Red Hat operators on. So, do we have a link that we're asking for testers that they can actually follow to set it up, sort of work with? Yeah, I think we might approach, maybe we can get Sri to write those up. He was the one who actually had access to his own stuff. Maybe we could ask him to just write a quick page of instructions to demonstrate that. I did see that they have narrowed down the error a little bit more. And are we looking for SEF in cluster or SEF out of cluster that the cluster uses? I think in cluster first, and then anything that we can do for out of cluster is good. I didn't get a chance to read what the latest update was, but apparently they did narrow down the issue even more. And there is a bugzilla further upstream for it. Okay. But yeah, I mean, it would be good anyway because we get a lot of questions for it. So let me see if I can get, let's see, I can't. I guess a related thing is that there actually is somewhere in the weeds, a Rooksef operator. Yes, there is. Which is not in, of course, our operator repository, whatever that might be. Well, for OCP, they've actually done quite a good job because they've rolled it all up into, I forget what they call the operator now, let me have a quick look. In OCP, the OpenShift Data Foundation, that's got the RoofSEF and Nubar, so you get file block and object storage through that. So we want the equivalent really for OKB. Yeah, although it is fairly straightforward, like I installed Rooksef long time ago based on Charles' instructions. And his instructions didn't get updated because he moved on to bigger, better things, but the next time I had to install it, I started with the manifest files that were in the Rooksef repository and just compared it with what I've done before. There are not that many changes that you have to make to it, so it's not that hard compared to many other things. Sure. It's just that, and it is possible following the instructions in the Rooksef documentation once you've got it installed to upgrade it. To minor releases or major releases and so on and so on, and that has generally worked without too much grief. But one of the things that I think it's almost sort of an underlying miasma is that nothing is easy. Compared to many other projects, open source projects, when you do many things, it's a relatively high risk and it's easy to get it over your head because the actual framework is quite deep. I spent, I guess, three weeks teaching Kubernetes implementation to my students and barely scratched the surface. And there were lots of things like networking was too big for me to really touch, much less storage, which is probably worse. Yeah, and it changes on every platform, depending on what's the underlying technologies. That's right. Yeah, and I think that's where, if we had a good operator catalogue, you may not understand it but I mean, with OCP, I can set up a cluster. I can then put the storage foundation on to get object block file storage, I can put key irons, we got local registry. I can just put GitOps on I can put pipelines on and I have a full sort of self contained development environment. I've even put code ready workspaces on hold their workspaces, whatever they're calling them now. And I get this full thing. And I don't need any skills. It's just point and press with the operator. Right. No, I think I think that's really critical. I've been actually pushing that. If you once you get to the point of, okay, the shiny new toys installed, I want to actually do something. Yeah, then you need the various catalog operators. Yeah, and that's why I've been sort of my mantra we need to get these operators. Right, but we're moving forward. I guess we've been sort of sidelined by having to follow continual upgrades. And they are working on the catalog, the new individual catalog for okay D. Certainly that project has been sort of put aside slightly because of some of these larger issues that we're looming. But the okay D catalog we are told is coming right now. Okay D specific catalog. So let's see what happens and push for stuff like this to make it into it or rally the community. But I also, I also think our technical documentation that we're doing will enable people, because again, if I look at the operator. I'll point to this registry thing, but now that we know that just replace that one with this okay D. For 10 operate base image. And then I can just use docker build or podman build. So even things like that I can go in and stop building operators with the instructions on how to do the what john sort of gave us for how to build an operator. We can use that to build the additional operators from just the gate source. So I think the instructions were doing on how to customize okay D will help build operators where when you just look at the gate repo it's just like well nothing works because we don't have access to the registries. We now know how to get past that. I think that's a big plus. Yeah. Okay, took a little bit off course, but by the way, I did install the the latest for 10 without a hitch. Okay, good. No further problems there. And I did go back and just out of interest. I installed the OCP CRC. And that works fine. Okay, which in a way, and it is for 10. Because one of the reasons I installed it was to see because churros instructions were based on for eight. And I wanted to see what, you know, I mean like, obviously, if we're going to do a CRC it has to be at least at the same level that the OCP one is. That's one of the reasons why I was installing that again and also see whether or not it took down my laptop with all the other stuff that's on there. And it seems fine. I don't really have a case and even to use it though. The other thing is that's why I think we need to sort of reach out to the community to get some users who actually have a need to use this and and really, you know, run some things on it. That someone trying to learn OKD would want to do right because this is a learning tool and experimental tool or experimenting tool. We need to find some people who are in that position to give feedback on the builds that we do. Right. I mean, there are, I don't know, there's probably close to a dozen Kubernetes, you know, minimize versions that you can install.  Yeah, for sure. You know, K3 K8. I mean, the list goes on and on. And I'm very similar. You know, like, I used kind. In the class that I was doing and I had to go back and forth between kind and many cubes trying to see exactly what the differences were. They were guessing CSC gives you things like source to image and it's those workflows that are subtly different from native Kubernetes. Yes, you can achieve them if you put the extra projects on. But just that whole developer workflow with the developer perspective. And saying I can take a git file. It'll then work out. Okay, I can see you've got a maven file in there. So I'll choose a source to image and yeah. Okay, so I think I think where you're headed is really the point in a way is that we if we don't know the purpose for it. Then yeah, it's hard to know if it's worth doing or worth spending time on versus everything else. Yeah, so maybe we should have a discussion of the pros and cons of okay, like. What would it buy somebody because we can always point people to the red hat OCP one success that they go get a, you know, developers, you know, free account. And therefore then they get a, you know, pull secret that will avoid a lot of the grief. And yeah, if they want to do something bigger, if they want to do something bigger, then, you know, they should go over to okay D because if they try and use OCP in a sort of production like environment, then somebody's going to come after them. I don't know if that was true, but at least it's in theory it's true. And, but some things I mean like like mini cube does have a console. It's not as nice. For sure. And all of the, all of the red hat people that are doing all these demos pushing serverless or whatever, they seem to uniformly use mini cube. And the guys that, you know, Adobe that was, you know, teaching operators, he was using mini cube. So I mean, I don't really have a dog in the fight. Product wise.  And I think this is what the effort around CRC is. You've got a laptop. CRC is too big. It's too heavy. By the time you've got CRC working, you don't have any resources left for your workloads. And I think that's where Kate's kind K3S, they give you a Kubernetes environment and under two gig of memory. So you've still got a substantial part of your laptop resources free to do your workload. I mean, if CRC is going to be useful, it needs to be into that sort of, that sort of domain where I'm not taking 80% of the resources just to get the base platform running. And I can't really don't have any space left for workloads because that's where a lot of people are with CRC, whether it's OKD or OCP. It is quite a heavy desktop environment or laptop environment for Kubernetes and if I want to do a quick Kubernetes demo on a laptop, I'll pick Kate. Well, and why is that part of that is that, OK, so like the console software has a dependency on metrics. OK, which includes, which pulls in Prometheus, which pulls in all that stuff. And I don't know how well, like is it even documented the dependencies between the different components. But also don't forget that OpenShift is all operator managed, which in a big environment is a huge advantage. But it means that if I run a base system, I'm at 200 and something pods just for the base system. You have that recent error that puts you up near a thousand pods. But I think this is where we're trying to run an enterprise grade offering on a laptop. You want all that management capability when you're running at scale. But on a laptop, it does exactly the opposite. It needs too much of the resource. Well, that's why like at one point we sort of threatened to start up a working group. Which I was happy to be on to go through and slim down the CRC and try and figure out exactly what's required what's useful. How can we do that and. And I'm guessing this is what the useful thing. And I'm, but I'm guessing that's what this new OCP CRC. Effort is about that was announced in the OpenShift program. If you look at what was it then what's what's next. Presentation. Yeah. Yeah. Let's let's stop. We need to communicate to people to get other CRC folks in the conversation other than just ourselves. So that's, I think what we need to do next. But, but I think for our. I guess limited resources. I don't see CRC rising that high compared to all the other things that we need to worry about. So I would leave the question mark on that item. Okay, so moving on to the Twitter issue. So there's an issue that the, the, the Twitter was set up with a Red Hat employees email address. And from what I can gather that Red Hat employee is not going to be an employee or is not an employee anymore. And so we have to connect it to a different email address. I messaged Diane about this I have not heard back. The, the, the other thing that this brings up is we really need a. We need to start looking at setting up an email address that is particular to the group and that is accessible by multiple people or, you know, or provide an email list. For setting things up or something like that, like we set up a separate Google group or something to where we are then able to. Not be dependent on one individual for these types of things. Is it required to be an individual email address or can it be something that we can then manage with aliases. Well, you mean from the, from the Twitter side or do you mean from the side. From the Twitter side, I think it's 1 email address per account. I could be wrong. I don't know. I'm not a Twitter is not something that I'm that I use a lot. So, but yeah, I believe it's an it's attached to a particular email address. I don't think there's any way to delegate. But we can investigate that, but that's where we are right now. I mean, regardless of of that part, we do need to figure out the part of. Getting it attached from the email of the right going to be something like okay D at red hat. And then the red hat people forward that to whoever it really is. I don't know that that's a workable plan. To someone to If it's got a red hat.com, I'd imagine it's like most they won't allow anybody outside the organization to have any control or publish anything from that because that then comes back directly on to red hat. So I think if you do that, it would only be limited to Red Hat employees. We need to check that with Diane but most corporates have that sort of policy. I think. Oh, good. I think getting a Gmail account or a something like that that we can then have multiple people know the password of is probably the way to go or something like that, unless we've got some money and we can set up our own and pay for our own mail domain. Well, we can do aliases if we. So here's the thing. Can we need to check with Diane about this. Can we convince the red hat admins to put different MX records in the domain. Because if so, I don't know. I don't want to get over the heads of anyone here if you've not dealt with mail administration, but in essence, in a domain record, there are what are called MX records which point to mail servers. We if we can have them set the MX records to whatever we want, we can set it to someone's server. I'm have I run mail servers happy to volunteer them. We could use Google. We could use whatever the question is just can we get them to change the MX records because then we could get admins at okd.io, whatever at okd.io and do multiple aliases or whatever. It's just a question of, can we get them to change the admins? I'll put that on a to do to ask, because that ultimately will decide if we can get something at okd.io. Yeah, but I mean, in general, it's bad practice to use a human beings. Yes, for that sort of thing. Yes. Yes. 100%. So we'll put to do is that Diane about changing MX records. Okay, so that's the scoop with the Twitter and I really at this point, I want to get on with that election stuff of the of the chairs, but I want it to be transparent and I feel like I mean, I guess we can post it in the okd Facebook group. We could put it in, or in the OpenShift Facebook group. We can put it on the working group, Google group, and we can put it in the Slack. And I don't, no one is using the matrix account. No one's chatting in there and I don't know. I think we need to have a conversation. It exists. I've been in there, but we'll see. Yeah, I prefer us not to get into that because if someone writes, I'm not going to check. Right. Yeah. It's to spread out as it is. Okay, surveys. Well, I did get the survey from Drity. And so the link is there. We should asynchronously go over this over the between now and the next meeting. And I'll send a reminder out maybe next week on the working group email list. Any questions that you think we should add? Is it good enough? Whatever. Let's hammer this out and then send it out to our users in the various platforms that we just talked about. Does that sound like a plan?  You know, and ask questions about website stuff and everything like that if you want, Brian. And someone's got. Edit access. I think I do. Because I'm just saying just looking at it. I'll tell you what, if not, I'll just recreate it and give you all edit access. Because the 1st question definitely needs changing because it's saying what version are you using? And there's not 4, 9 or 4, 10 there. Let me see. Customized theme preview. Yeah, I do have edit access to it. And so I should be able to add collaborators as it is. So I will add you folks as collaborators. And. And we'll go from there. That's not like a plan. Yep. All right. Request for testers. Yeah, we need bare metal testers. We're getting more and more. It's amazing how much bare metal stuff is going on. That and CRC are really surprising me. So, but then by their metal, does that include. Like a virtual bare metal. I think so, I think it does have to be or is there anything specific we need this. Let me check with Sandro to see if they've got people. At the main meeting, we can ask Sandro because he should show up. We'll find out like where they are at and if they have people who want to. Test some stuff and write some stuff up for us. They've been kind of dormant lately. But maybe we can find out if they can volunteer some people to help with some documentation. Or at least circle the channel a little bit and answer questions when, when folks have questions that would be helpful. Let's see what else. Style updates. We all have style. We have, we have good style. What was that? That was for the website. Installing update. Yeah, so Brandon's cities pull request. And you should have noticed that the look and feel is slightly changed. And we've got a much brighter main page on the light, the dark mode hasn't changed an awful lot, but the light mode has got significantly better as more readable and better contrast. So, I'm not sure whether he's actually planning to do anymore, but that's, that's the work that he's done so far. And I thought it was important to get that release before we actually do any moves. Can we acknowledge his efforts somewhere on the site? Or, and I would say Twitter, but once, once we get that, but just be like, thanks. For the efforts to update our site, but like, I feel like we should give some acknowledgement because this has all been done sort of in the background. You know, and that was a great thing to volunteer some time to do. So. Yep. Awesome. So if you want to write something up, then, and then we'll just post that in various places, like a little two or three sentences or something. Okay. Yeah, I don't want to add too much to your task list though. So if you want. You can delegate to Bruce or something.  It's difficult to know where to put that. Yeah, I mean, what we can do is we, I mean, I know there was a blog on there that we haven't used since we actually moved over to MK docs. I don't know whether we want to kill it off or try and get it made active again. We could put something and maybe ask him to maybe ask Brandon just to put a few words about what he did and. That would be actually, I think. Yeah, that would be really cool actually and explain why and our focus accessibility and things like that. Yeah. Yeah. So, so that might be good way of doing that. Just pull a blog where we can sort of thank him and then put a paragraph from him. Can you head that up to get a paragraph? Okay. Yep, I can do that. And then the last one publishing update so when we publish and it does a spell check and a link check. And now the question is do we want to keep doing that or do we want to and the reason I ask is because things like the minutes Jamie he broke us with all the spell check. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did notice that. Yes. And so the minute what I've done is I've just gone in and disabled spell checking on your minutes section so everything in that minute and everything below that is now removed from spell checker. And so it's really do we find that automation useful or a pain in the backside that we want to get rid of. It's always nice to have a site that's practically spelled and all the links are always working. But it means when someone wants to do a quick update, they can suddenly get stuck with someone sites broken or someone's taken a page down and it's not something they're interested in fixing but their update is now blocked because of it. Yeah, I don't have I don't yet have automation to actually go check to see have we got any broken links this week or anything like that but so it's really. I want the publishing to be as easy as possible to encourage more people to do it. So it's what people think is the right balance there. So we just put them as warnings and not block it or do we have to say what's important. I would say so here's the issue that came so here's an example of how nitpicky it is. The thing that was that was throwing the air was that we have in our attendance name. Affiliation close parentheses. Apparently the way that that is written causes an error in in the link checking. Because it's thinking that it's a parentheses for URL. And so we can't find for example University of Michigan as a link. But there's a way to turn off at the top of the page right like for the for an entire page. Yeah, there are sort of like the spell and there are various things you can put in so for example some of the pages. I've actually added page specific spellings that accept is everyone's email address and things like that it both with spelling on. So I think the link checking and the spelling. What's what's our straw poll vote here my vote would be to turn it on what Brian what do you think Bruce what do you think. Well okay so I mean I think spell check is a useful thing. Especially if it's flexible on UK versus Canadian versus American spelling, you know for color and, you know, honor and things like that. I've actually said it to say that we must be us in us. It did it did but I have said that in the majority of people are in the US I have said the end US is the accepted spelling for our site. Well I'm in Canada if that helps. I know it's one of these things where. Well I have a you in it. Are you saying you want to keep it on. Well, okay, so it seems like there, there, there should be.  If something in parentheses has to be a URL. That's the link checker. And that's the link checker. Okay, but so a bug in the link checker then because. Well, no, it's actually the rules of lockdown. Yes. Okay. So, typically I was wrong in the most literal sense, right? I made it like, yeah, so maybe to escape the parentheses. Yeah, if you escape it, or if you put it in quotes, a block quote, it doesn't check what's in a block quote. But if you just have it as normal text, it actually breaks the rules of lockdown. That was the issue. Okay, so, well, that sounds like a learning issue. We can fix it the source. Well, it means that we have that I have to, you know, when I write the notes, for example, for this meeting. I need to do all of that and then make sure that I copy and paste with all of those things in there. It's fine. It's just, I'm wondering, you know, how much time do we want to spend on that? I mean, the other thing is I can do what I've just done. Disabled for a section. Yeah, right. And for the minutes, if we just want to say the minutes or whoever writes them up is what gets published. Yeah. Waltz and all, then that's okay. But I actually think if you've got a main section of prose, and it's just got lots of spelling mistakes in. It just makes the thing, no one cares about this. No one's actually cared enough to write it properly. Yeah. Yeah. I do like that you call it prose as if we would have some very articulate poetic descriptions of. Okay, you know, open shift in Kubernetes. Yeah, I mean, the poetry is different, of course. Exactly. Okay, so I guess we'll keep it on. I will be a little more mindful. And if we can maybe turn it off for now for meeting minutes, just because it is typing in minutes stuff. Okay. It is turned off for minutes now. Yeah. Okay, good. Cause when you're typing stuff in, it can be very. You're just trying to get it in, right? You know, and right. Technically, we, we really should have someone else taking the notes as opposed to also leading the meeting. But we'll get there when we get more people involved. Okay, so is there anything else that we need to cover to do is are to check with Diane about changing the next record. That's me. And then Brian, you're going to get a blurb on the website style updates that we can share out to give some credit and thank you. Yeah. All right. Anything else we need to talk about right now before we disband. Sounds good. Do we have a timetable for when we want to move over to the get, then you get repo. I wanted to have that conversation today, but I was kind of hoping that Diane would be here or someone else other than just the three of us. I don't know. I mean, do we want to have that conversation now? Well, we are going to have to line up, for example, the keepers of the, the, and the NS records. Yeah, things like that. We are going to have to do things like that. I don't want to wait because I feel like there's that list is actually pretty big. And I don't want to, I don't want to hand it off to Diane until I know that she's going to have the time to do it. I mean, what might be useful is just to actually for the next meeting, have a plan that we can actually just put up. And if you want to do it in Slack, or if you want to actually just curate that in a discussion. That's what we talked about before. Yeah. Yeah. Just so we actually have the list of when we actually decide to sort of go for it. These are all the things that we need to consider and line up. So we actually have that discussion and say, okay, we're going to do this in two weeks time. And everyone lined up for two weeks time. So do we want it in the OKD IO discussions or the OKD discussions? Well, everything is in the OKD discussions. I don't think we're actually not using. Someone put in February 15th. What should be the purpose and format of the guides? And I think that was the folks doing the guide stuff like Dan Axelrod and Christian and you participated in it apparently. Okay. Yeah. Well, it's up to you. What do you think? I'd stick to the open shift one because that's what everyone's using. You're rather than the open shift different about CS. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So. Okay. Do you want discussions on creating one now? Okay. Oh, the other thing I wanted to say is if you have to look at the issues. I think we've got three or four issues in the open shift.io repo. I think most of them are old and we can probably close. There are things like the charter. And I just I was just trying to tidy everything up before we actually do the move. Make sure that we don't use anything. So I was just trying to shut them down and I think. I mean, we're already crafting things like the charter outstanding actions, which I think is one of the issues. I'm just thinking. Can we actually close off issues and shut down things and. Okay. So hold on. I'm just finishing up this discussion. Okay. Plan for repository transition. New discussion is created. It's 1206. Discussion 1206 minutes. And it's there. And to do is I'll say this is for everyone is to. Work on the transition transition. All of us. Okay, great. All right, so in terms of those that you want to close Brian, what are you thinking. And just. If you look at what's outstanding is there anything that. That we're actually going to do off. Can we actually close them for being stale. I'm just getting the list of mail. I think we do need to have a conversation about the matrix. Situation update group charter. I think we're good. We can close that. Yeah, I think security contacts. So I. We got a hold on that I sent an email to. Um, Mohammed. Who had volunteered to. Uh, to do security stuff and haven't heard back. So let me reach out. It's like we connected on. And then I said, well, I'll send you an email since we're in different time zones. And then I haven't heard back from them. Um, but I certainly laid out what we would need help with. So, I mean, for me, I think we should close this matrix one off. And put it in discussions because I think we need to come to a consensus in the main group. Yeah, as to we've set this up. And nobody seems to be that keen on actually engaging in using it. I know Neil's Neil's desperately trying wants us to use it, but. Yeah, but he's not saying anything or posting anything or. No, but so I don't think that's something that. We're not going to add it to the documentation unless there's a consensus that we're going to use it. People are going to check it support it and. So I would like, I would say, let's close this and leave it to a discussion group. That's fine. Because it's just going to sit there and do nothing. The charter will happen and then obviously this security contact. Well, the security contacted we decide to just in terms of the contact. Tell you what, let's keep that open because that might be affected by the MX record discussion. Because if we can get like security at okd.io, that would be fantastic. Yeah, but I think there was also the issue about, can we do anything about it? So we're actually does raise the security concern. Because at the end of the day, it's OCP source code that would need to be altered. So there are, well, but some of it is Fedora. Some of it is Fedora. Some of it like there are some unique bits. That are okd specific in it so we can't treat it completely like it's like it's just OCP rebranded because there are actually some unique bits. For example, we did the change to see groups V2. Before OCP did. There's also a couple of system D units that are unique. So there are some things that are. But when you say they're unique. If they're not in OCP, then they're in Fedora repo. Is there anything that we've written is okd that could have a security exposure. That wouldn't be covered by because all we do is pass it off to Fedora or to OCP. I think we need to do an analysis. The appropriate path is to actually do an analysis of that and see what type of artifacts are. Okd specific and there are some I know that there are some things. In a node that are okd specific that aren't just branding so. You know, and particularly once we get into the community, the okd community operators catalog, if there's a security issue with the catalog configuration. But let's actually look at that. Ok, is there anything else then. So is there to do out of that. I think we'll move that we're going to move the matrix discussion and the security discussion to the main group and see we're into the main group and see. Yeah, I'm just going through all the repose. I'm just trying to shut down anything that can be shut down. So when we do the move, everything's clean and we don't have to. Worry about taking issues with this because I think code goes across quite easily with a. A sort of a fork. Where we're going to leave all the issues and discussions behind. I think. I think so. Yeah. Ok, cool. We'll see nothing else. I'm going to bid everyone do. And stop the recording and I'll see you all at the, I'll see you all online as we hammer out the transition plan asynchronously. Yep, sure. I send out a reminder on that. Thank you. Thank you. Bye.


If it is not a trial but the community has done the community here... Yes Yes Festa example kabakani ya Manikandu zubili za nizachokab Banikandu wasb kwa muntendewe Kambaka Pf I think our nationality chairman who should not bury our heads in this house There is a problem with the Pf but the freedom we have given to the PF, they are taking advantage of our place. Our cadders were removed from the station but PF cadders remained. Instead of giving themself, they want to use and abuse our officers. And also they want to act clever like they are the only ones who got the directive from the president. Yes. First it's as we implemented it. The directive was given to you P&D, you said there are no cadders in the bus stop. Yes. And we implemented that directive from the president. So PF cannot come and champion and victimize our people who are drivers in the station. Yes. I think that is wrong. But you know, you are drivers. You are not cadders. Yes. And we are dressing here you as drivers. Yes. And why we got involved as a party to address you because we are the ruling party. Yes. And we will be right to address you. Yes. So we did not come here to address cadders in the station. We are dressing drivers in the station. Yes. And the reason is simple. You came to our offices because we are the leaders of the ruling party. Definitely. And we will address you. We will address you. Yes. We will address you. Yes. I was the bus driver at the Moses Tansen Danu. Danu. Durian, of course. Durians in the conductor one. Yes. Long time. We were the one who shifted the cafeway from Kurima Tower City Market, which you remember. It was my conductor at that point. Moses Tansen was one of my drivers. So I understand what drivers go through. This issue of Chinimbasa was not a new thing. It started with Peter Bororiko. Yes. It started with Peter Bororiko. Yes. Yes. Yes. I have a runner. Peter City. Yes. We were the bus drivers in the Giaio. We took out the bus. We took out the bus when we were about to do that few days. Yes. And I was the youngest driver at that station. Yes. Yes. I was the youngest driver at that station. Yes. We were the graduates of Boramuni region. We were one of the village drivers. Yes. Yes. Still, the drivers themselves they could come together and come together and help us to come to Chilimbasa. But we were the drivers at that station when we started at Chinimbasa. But also why we accepted to address you as drivers because when the information was to the ministers we were told by the chairman but now it's either here or in this issue of the PF. Yo there's one thing we still understand right now. The PF, when it's our president, we're done. Balungu. Balungu eh? Yes. When maridas it's our president you're done. So president you're done. Well done. So maridas are doing it for the president is you're done. There's not two ways about it. 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So, even a bus driver, mu constitutione actu, is in a right to associate himself with the ruling party, you are welcome.bonsize kwa mamaki na basite she ahi tohasi bago ni mahojimatatri na watu murumumba tule ttri nemasa machi mesteyefuna indikadarize mabasite jum에도 wazosa danda makama muka muka shepa nizu umero mo yesHAHA nizu tynga mabaswa pif bifos muka henda kwuu isi tepe má kureimu tape mpa Kwa ni posle? Chia mani mani kecha? Pa Chia mani banda, wazimba, wamana karaya? Kwa tu esi chia mani? I'm saying no, this branch solved that problem. Need I to close it back? Ani yesa, sayuza chitoya? Yes. Senda wuja reha handa, wuja wuja wuja wuja wuja. Uzanbiya!


any updates on Ukraine? Ukraine is collapsing. Hard. I feel sorry for Ukraine. It was a completely unnecessary war as I said before. The most unnecessary war I know of in history. I don't know any other war that was as unnecessary as this and that was as obvious what the outcome was going to be as this. We called it from the get-go when it started. We had a lot of people, Ukraine is going to win.  Ukraine is being sacrificed. Sacrifice for the NATO agenda to divert people from the economic collapse of the Western world to another carrot being dangled. Unfortunately, it's the Ukrainian and Russian lives that are being dangled. We mentioned that Europe was committing suicide. Suicide, right? And people were like, no, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine is going to win, look at those, France and Germany, Ukraine is going to win.  So sad, so sad, so sad, right? I still see Ukrainian flags. This is how low-accused you are. You still see people flying Ukrainian flags.     That's the people flying Ukrainian flags, right? Crazy, crazy.  They're saying you war pro, they're pro-war, right? Fuck.  They sacrificed 500,000 Ukrainians and 60,000 Russians to their NATO war mongering gods. I've said it before, Western Europe has started two world wars and they're starting the third one. The oligarchs, the aristocrats in the Western world, right? In Europe specifically and the military industrial complex in the United States, right? Those oligarchs in Western Europe, in Europe, right? They need to be dealt with.  When is humanity going to say, you know what? We had enough of these motherfuckers. All those kings and queens and lords and aristocrats and the EU, unelected people. Time to have a little talk, motherfuckers, right? That's my opinion. That's my opinion. That's the update on Ukraine.  Can we use the space lasers on them? Man, if NATO of the Western world escalates this anymore, right? Russia will not hold back, right? Russia will not hold back. Washington has space washing machines. Russia's economy, as Doran liked to call it, tatters. They're going to go to tatters, right? As they're quoting Benderlian and all those clowns in the EU, right?  And it wasn't a loss where they just walk away scot-free. They collapsed Western economies. They caused hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, okay, annihilated a nation, and rolled out tyranny in our own countries, right? Because they silenced us. We're trying to silence us. I don't know. Well, when are our NPCs in the Western world going to wake up? We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. Again, do not forget. Do not forget. Free Assange. Free Assange. Free Assange. Julian Assange is a publisher and journalist that has been crucified for trying to bring transparency and accountability of capitalist power to humanity. Something that we desperately, desperately need in our societies. For more information, see wikileast.org, candlesforassange.com, or countless resources available on free speech platforms.