Speaking of excellent. I showed rags a couple Simpsons episodes. Which ones did you show them? Lisa on ice and the two who shot mr.. Boone's later or Lisa on ice man that every time the ending gets me Yeah, it's quite wholesome Yeah, it's some or also just reminds me of like I feel kind of sorry for like 20 minute animated shows They have to tell complete stories so quickly Like yeah They're pretty jam-packed with stuff is I mean you're there's just moving along You know how much time to waste It's funny to think about because remember the whole point of bojack horseman was things don't get neatly wrapped up in 20 minutes But yet yet it still has less substance than like the who shot mr. Burns two parter, which is like better than that whole show Yeah, that was that was fun to watch We paid because I've never really watched a Simpsons never was a thing that I see now because to me That's like foreign because when I was growing up everybody watched the Simpsons. Yeah, watch the Simpsons Um, I didn't even have parents would let me watch Simpsons. Yeah. Yeah, it happens. Obviously. We all had like There's some weird restrictions that can come up for different parents who just have different worries about different things and Um, yeah The Simpsons was designed to subvert Like standard family sitcoms. So it's easily Understandable that a a normal family might be like well, this is just a bit. This is almost toxic this show. It's just like oh because Simpsons at times can be like everybody Sucks there, but then also they um, they come through in lots of ways and it always felt to me anyway a lot more authentic like Um in brief interactions that can come across a lot of people are very ego driven or self driven Um, but when the chips down and the choices come in they usually make the right decision And you gotta believe who Homer is Yeah, uh, because at least Ron ice if you only watched that episode had to judge Homer as a character He's kind of a complete asshole Yeah, he's talking about how they're both losers Losers Let's burn this place down Let's tear this place apart.  Oh the joke with the the pie. All right pie.   It just eats the pie Yeah He's more invested in the pie that he has about completing about the pain. He's just like, I can't fucking just move on I think that's the Simpsons is like so genius in ways that as a kid, you never really appreciated like the show was really funny But then when you rewatch it as an adult, it's just like Because I I know we've talked about that clip that clip when um, it's the bot bot Is it bot's comment? I think it's like that episode is Insane it turns the number of jokes. Which season is bot's comment I think that's season five. I want to say season six.  It is so many good episodes of it Well, that's the thing for me is season six was the only one that I ever had on dvd So I watched that one over and over and over again. I remember there was like that was one where homework goes to clown college Um, I think that was the one where marge becomes a cop was in that episode too Forget about the badge. When do we get the freaking gun? Hey, I told you you don't get your gun until you tell me your name I've had it up to here with you else Remember it's funny too, which was which is kind of nice to see a comedy show that's actually funny Oh, yeah, that's because when I rewatch family guy, I just don't laugh Yeah, oh well You were far fewer than simpsons At least it's classic here, right And if it was like cheating with family guy because most of the funny jokes are cutaways and cutaways are really easy to do Yeah, we just we just want a joke here. So we're just gonna have this joke be here for whatever It doesn't have anything to do with anything, but you know Yeah, it's it's it's gag writing which is what Trey Parker and Matt Stone said like they don't respect it because it's just It's just gags like where you have the the whole joke in that episode is that a bunch of manatees Just pick up balls from a tank that have words written on them and then just put them in a row And then it's a family guy joke Like a name and adjective Like what sort it is. I want a lemon of Troy as well. That one's I think season 6 too Do you know how it ends with? Well, there's a lemon tree in Springfield and Shelbyville steal it. Yeah After they have their little like first initial fight with the kids from either town Grandpa the Simpsons in the background just goes some things never change the millhouse goes look everyone an old man is talking and they'll just walk Sit Part of that episode where the other guy's dad like the The faux homer from Shelbyville where he's like, sorry Springfield you lose now if you excuse me I'm feeling a little hungry. He just takes a bite out of a lemon The expression is incredible Yeah And yeah, he's trying they try to like make it a win by the end that the lemon tree was lost to Shelbyville So they're like we cast out the evil lemon tree now. Let's have a cold glass of turd of juice Yeah, it's so many fun days you ever had prune juice I don't know. I feel like I would know at some point maybe but no memory of it. It's warrior's drink Uh Yeah, so Simpsons is neat Simpsons is neat. I really enjoyed watching it.  Oh, yeah, yeah real quick Really, um, I'll stop remembering jokes. Okay. It's just it's we're in the intro All right, everyone's pouring in you guys can listen. Let's talk about a favorite moments from Simpsons in who shot mr. Burns when they Exonerating Smithers and he goes so instead of shooting an evil old man I shot it assault old man. It's much worse Yeah, that was really funny. I remember laughing at that. I remember there was just a lot of good stuff It's just and it's the delivery too. The voice actors are really good. So the deliveries are quite good All those voice actors super talented considering that there are only three male voice actors Like in the show who basically play all of the male characters It's it's kind of it's unreal actually the versatility of like Dan Castellan at a Hank Azaria and um And you can find yourself being like, oh, I'm not even sure which one of them that is. You're like you're listening. You're like, that could be Yeah I think um, I for some reason I used to think that chief wiggum was Dan and not Hank Azaria And then it's like, oh, wait. No, it is Hank Azaria And then of course like you can figure out some of them But some of them get really difficult to to figure out like it's obvious that Abe We're not obvious. I don't want to say obvious because they still have different voices like Krusty Abe and Homer all voiced by the same person, but then you start like pushing it further and further Uh, because they're all they all have interesting origins, right? Because Abe is supposed to just be really really old Homer and then Krusty was originally going to be Homer as well That's right. Yeah, I'm I'm so happy that he was like his own character because Krusty is like Hilarious. Yeah I think they're all stereotyped. So Krusty is the washed up celebrity. Like it's the The person like he just arrives when mr.  Yeah. Hi Yeah I feel like the favorite joke with Krusty was the the one where he does the ads for a Krusty burger I think he's like, you know, if you win you get a free Krusty burger takes a bite And cut I think that I think Bethesda was probably a really big fan of the Simpsons because they too think that they can get away with only using Three voice actors for their games.  It's fine But that's probably more for their old games, right less so now now they have like the money to get whoever they want So Skyrim is a game that really comes to mind when I talk about when if you say Um, what's one of the flaws of Skyrim?  Um, where you just you clearly obviously the same voice actors And a lot of stuff. Yeah, I look up on our IMDb On IMDb, there's like seven or eight people who play like 20 or 30 This is unreal In what Skyrim? Yeah, like look at look at the cast for Skyrim Like there are a decent number of people in it, but there are some people who are playing like 30 characters Well, yeah, and you feel it because I don't want to say they're not talented But there's a lot of play they do not Hide it well at all Well, I think there's only so much you can do like Steven Russell. He's a really good voice actor who played Garrett and uh in Thief and he's playing like 40 characters I I feel like even the best voice actors you're gonna really struggle Once you get to that point, you know, yeah Plus why so impressed with Simpsons is just like you have these people doing 50 voices and it's like, how the fuck? How's that even possible? Yeah I don't know how bad it has been fallout for um, it's probably the same They probably I I bet it's the same. I don't maybe it's a little better. Maybe not but you would I guess you'd think that with If you have Bethesda money Then you could hire more than four people to voice your 100 plus characters and you're sprawling I say sprawling you big open world RPG, you know with all of the characters and stuff But I guess all that work went towards Well, but all that work went towards something else so Whatever that is Full out for us better, but still Steven Russell is playing like 15 characters Yeah That's weird that you wouldn't do it like rock star where you just get one person per character Because you have that much money that you can afford to do it And I think with rock star it'd be easier because a lot of the NPCs and stuff. They're supposed to be like parody people and um So it simpsons works in the same way where simpson is a cartoon and it's a comedy and stuff So you can get away with Agree using voices in a way But with skyrim and fallout when it's trying to be much more serious Um, it doesn't seem like it it could work I I do think it's noticeable in simpsons when they have a guest star voice because they are so starkly different from the simpsons Wild voices like you know side show bob his voice is like No, there was so many oh side show bob like it's too good.  Stay away forever. Oh, no Wait, that's not right I've got it say stay away from my son.  Right? It's just lots of weird play that just people making mistakes that are very much character driven or Playing on tropes.  They did And the references are so on point because again that reference was that was kate fear like that was That was just parody of kate fear when I was watching it with rags. I think like three different types I was like, oh, that was a reference to thing by the way if you haven't seen it Oh, that was a reference to the you know, like um when lisa Is trying to give chief wing of the clues.  So I didn't know because they do the thing It was just weird Yeah, because the the the joke is of course, I think the way that they do it is the uh, you see like a word You hear it and you try and pronounce it backwards and then they flip it in post so it makes it sound really like creepy um So she's speaking words all the way like that and I think she says, um Um Suit burns look better I think she says something that the the mysterious sort of element of it like in twin peaks to figure out Is she's talking about inspecting burns a suit? I like chief of them just doesn't get it. He's like, I don't understand.  She just look at burns a suit because oh Huh I I actually I think the joke that came right after that was actually funnier Where the other cop comes up to him and he asked him It did he did he have did you also have the super weird dream with a burning card magic trick? And he's like, I'm driving And that made me really that was just really funny to me It's just I it's just well paced and comedy is you know a big part of its timing And it's very It just it works really well It's like it rolls off the tongue Which one really does doesn't it?   Yeah That's the he's really hard to dislike Yeah, he's such a nice guy except when he's talking to the The Monorail plan. Yeah, you guys go stop rafting. We'll never stop. All right moving on. So hello everyone. Welcome EFAP 136 I think that's what it says I think so three that might be true being the key detail in that because there's three of us and I've called it the EFAP triple threat versus quad damage because I'm can't come up with anything smarter than that We're going to be covering potentially four videos Quadru-roll videos. Yeah, that's not I yeah Hey, right come on something better on the spot now we'll change it For the title of the um the stream that we're doing go for a better title You know, I open this to chat too because I I couldn't think of anything I think the EFAP triple threat part is okay, but the quad damage part is just kind of like, huh? Yeah triple threats. Okay, but I guess threat sort of implies Because it's for our audience and I don't know if our audience would consider us threats But we're against the thing like I'm not threatening. I'm very threat to the thing It's in the title right versus Not a threat to the audience. They'll be fine I feel like it's still kind of like in general like a threat like I don't want people to see me as a threat I want people to see me as um You know, what's a good example like um Do you want it to call the EFAP three-way someone just suggested? No, I feel like a three-way wouldn't it doesn't convey the You know, I guess the no, I reckon No, yeah, I don't think so because a three-way implies that the three people are in a contained semi organized kind of thing amongst themselves will say and We are on one team Going against another team Like if there were two different threesome's that were being ranked and scored based on a wide variety of different attributes and Move sets and executions and things of that nature sure, but I don't know. I just I don't know about trip. I don't know about threesome I like triple threat more because threat you you could say, you know, it's a threat to them You brought up which I think makes more sense than a threesome Um But I don't know I'd have to give it um give it some thought You think on that and I I will literally just just alter it during the stream because we have the technology and uh It's all in caps too. Oh, yeah. It's a it's a bold title. It's like yelling at me. Yeah Yeah I mean if you don't want about the damage because that's I think people are getting confused by that like What is the quad damage referring to? Well, it's for people dealing damage to our brains. How about that? Uh, okay. I see Yeah If we had a something we could do with the Well, the show we're talking about is going to be the Falcon and the Winter Soldier which already I'm really starting to hate that name Because so long and clunky to fat was yeah, it doesn't it's it's very clunky and long and it doesn't have a fun acronym Uh, it's Fat was that that isn't a fun acronym. That was that was yeah, it would be To fat was because yeah, I don't want to declare fat was here on this show I don't know if I have the ability to do that to fat was um I've yeah, because even with like the last Jedi tlj. Okay. That's nice and easy three syllables tlj nice and simple Uh, there is a skywalker tross One syllable little makes a little word there, right? Um, but the Falcon and the Winter Soldier I hate it Because especially when you have to type it out It's bad enough. I'm saying it like low key where it's just low key. It's really easy Yeah, and you know wonder vision.   It's a shame that the show doesn't Yeah, yeah So anyway What we're opening up with today for some funsies is there was a thread talking about how we're the worst people ever as per use you all um Part of it really amused me, right?  Oh, yes You would have a really really here. Yeah, I think I think that's it. I always feel like I'm gonna get the name wrong Um, I I want to confuse it with I'm thinking of ending things Nobody would want to be confused with that movie. Uh, they don't feel like names They just feel like statements that might slip out in any random conversations. It's very autistic though, isn't it? Probably what they're going for is like, you never really hear So thinking of any things they were they were trying to point out How terrible it is that we watched them before doing that and I was really confused I was like, isn't that like Isn't that a thing that we should do if we want to talk like compare them? Should we refresh our Really weird. I've never been called out for watching the things before I talk about them, right?  Um comment What they watched it to see if there was a one-to-one comparison between Them and joker because every film snob who hated on joker claimed It was an inferior version of taxi driver slash king of comedy slash falling down Of course, they had an obligation to otherwise Oh, of course, they had an obligation to otherwise you'd claim What an interesting sentence of course They had an obligation to Otherwise you'd claim they didn't watch those movies to see the comparison. See this is where I like commas. Yes commas are great um You've essentially made it so mollering crew can't win in your eyes. So which is true Yeah, if we hadn't watched them, they'd be like they didn't even watch them beforehand. How can they really comment on this? And by the way, if the implication was like, I've never it's like embarrassing You've never seen these before so I had seen taxi driver I comment if I had seen king of comedy before and I definitely watched falling down when I was super young um But that's irrelevant Like I had not seen any of them before we'd watch them for the joker video That was the first time I'd seen them which I honestly think is a major benefit to have someone who hasn't been influenced By not only having seen them when they were much younger Or as they were getting older but being surrounded by people saying they're amazing You instead watch them in an isolated sort of uh environment. You just like this is what I thought I saw You know that sort of thing very useful. Um So you think like well, what can be the response to this right? What could they possibly say? um I was I was impressed with the response. Let's just put it that way All right. Here we go. The response to that is That's right.  Well, well, they can't If someone's bad if if you have a dichotomous proposition like will efap watch the material or will they not watch the material And it's bad either way You might not be a reasonable person.    Definitely wonderful social media space.  Uh, I don't know if you knew this already I'm pretty sure freaky does but someone found the genny nickel some stream again And posted about it basically just the the two images next to each other and just like you know Like oof and then all the comments came in wonderful Wonderful comment. I can't believe that they did that thing that whatever the thing is that they did. I can't believe they did it those Oh Here we go. Uh, this guy says, um His name is no lives matter till black lives too. Hi Uh, so they spent almost half an excessively long podcast on her because a woman Had an opinion on a movie they didn't like sound totally normal to me I guess we're all i emoji a woman A woman, which is always a woman. Oh, I gave this person the benefit of the doubt. I shouldn't have to read your name, but Always super interesting to hear that one because we cover 98 male. I think if not 99 It might be even more Yeah, because we're over Because we've only covered women twice, right? Uh, three I believe we covered jenny twice and sarah z once I think that is it well Yeah, in sarah z was probably the video that to this day remains the most unscathed Yeah, not counting like a tonal or like when we showed, um A hoi a video that we go in like very much prepared to check out the arguments and address them It's like that one came out probably one of the most positively out of all the ones we've covered So we're at 136 right? Yes, we're gonna assume that we do Let's say we do just two videos today because we never get to as many as we hope we do Uh, because these videos we cover are very bad And minimums to make them so 136. Uh, so what percentage? How would you find the I think we have We cover an average of two videos probably per episode, right? You could say that 50 times, um We've we've we've had ones we've covered like So that'd be 266 men or 266 videos by men. I mean, we've definitely covered one per video I would assume there's a couple of ones where we have really long videos. I guess that we cover a half and half true Um Well, so that means that in two percent of podcasts we even cover a woman Right, so in just two percent of podcasts. We've covered a woman Which however if you think about videos if we do 136 times two So let's say we've covered two hundred and seventy two videos um And we've covered three by women. I'm not gonna count zero zero z actually because That well, let's go ahead and do it. Let's say three that'd be three divided by 272, right? So one percent Well, it would obviously it wouldn't really matter anyway, but I find it amusing because it's like That does seem kind of sexist actually if you think about it But it's actually explained by the fact that the majority of video assay stuff is done by males rather than female on the internet So yeah, 99 of videos covered are um Men But you know what?   So we don't really mind at all We're very equal opportunity Critics give a go at this one, right? This is a all right The Joker movie was good In the straight white boys didn't understand the message of the movie at all, but that's not the movie's fault Well, it's interesting too because she hypothesized uh jenna jenny jebby Hypothesized that perhaps the theme of the film was that you shouldn't take your medication She's very good at her job um This guy said it was a refreshing take on comic book movies But I kind of understand some criticisms of it, but making an 11 hour video is petty as shit Uh I don't think this person is friends. Uh, I know the whole video isn't about that But you must have spent a good chunk of time responding to the girl So again like first off the random capitalization of time Interesting strange it is because you couldn't accidentally have done that you have to specifically type in Shift time with something else, right when you're writing a sentence and you feel like you're about to This word's important because this is the the qualifier in a way You're like this one should be capitalized and your brain's like no it doesn't that's not how it works though And then we have responding to the girl Again with the specifications. Do they ever say to the to the man or the man and this is one of the things I Oh, yeah, they called you straight.  It's not a difficult movie to understand Right. I don't think it's intended to be We watched a lot of people try to understand it If you're jenna jenny nickelson or movie bob or the young tix, it might yeah, if Yeah, you'd extract the opposite if this is their, you know job But you know Yeah Very uh 11 hours is petty. I didn't know that I didn't know either because I remember having a really good time and enjoying myself Talking with my friend those we've shown comments before but there's people who are like I checked it out because I was like Basically blowed away but like the idea of 11 hours of in cells ranting about women and I was like, oh, it's actually just a chill Fun time. It's like, yeah, let's yeah, how about that if we didn't enjoy this We probably wouldn't be doing it.  That's insane. I can't I don't hang out with my friends Have fun for 11 hours And I'm sorry if you can't if you can't maybe you're just boring or your friends are boring I don't know you should have put more points into charisma And these are the same people that will also like celebrate onto it have been like, oh my god I watched like two seasons of community today like, uh Just all in a row and it's like, yeah, and you're like, hmm Oh, you like by yourself. Yep So uh, this one, uh, I just tweeted out as like this is just the whole thing in a nutshell I quite love this interaction. Oh boy. Here we go Uh, let's see, um listening to What is well, okay. I guess quads on my is there is there a functional difference between a parasol and an umbrella? Uh functional. I mean parasols are usually much bigger, right? I don't I don't know actually, um Uh, let me let me actually look at it. Well because their name is a is a is an umbrella that's being rained on And I didn't know if I wanted to mention it and then I was like, is that an umbrella or a parasol? I don't know Parasols are like for beaches and stuff and you stick them in like the the more sun protection than rain protection Uh, let me see, uh, generally an umbrella has a curved handle to allow for easy grip and storage A parasol, however in latin para for shelter or shield in sole for sun Is typically constructed from more delicate fabrics such as lace cotton silk linen canvas and plastic Which is odd because well, no, what's What a strange thing to say because that doesn't really tell me anything at all about the difference One is about one is about the shape and construction Well, what is about the shape like a curved handle easy grip and storage and the other is It's typically made out of lace cotton silk linen canvas presumably And so like I that doesn't help me at all Well, I think that I think they're telling you that to imply like so the parasol's goal isn't to block out the sun But to reduce its effect on you as it comes in while the umbrella is meant to protect you fully from water So like it's stronger materials. I think I think this is the difference. I I'm not an expert on umbrellas and parasols It says that a a straight shaft and handle are standard characteristics of parasol formation Let me look up. So does it seem to be does it seem to be just the the handle? Well, the difference between the two which is I mean, I mean correct me if I'm wrong But I've always known parasols are much larger and you don't like hold them You put them into something like put them in stands and stuff Like if that hole in the middle of the table outside. Oh here. I found I found a picture. I think you're right Um, let me let me show this. Here we go. This is handy. Uh, let's let's read that's so It looks like a parasol is A power so I handle That's the big thing. Yeah, so it does seem to be One is for mobility and the other is like it's not as portable. It's not it's not it's not portable It's the vote. Yeah, it's like you said you stick it in things like stands or over tables Yeah What's really strange is that look at the last one in design umbrellas are modern and innovative um Whereas parasols are classic and standard. I was on board with this until that last one Yeah, I don't I don't see what that seems almost a bit, you know, you're letting your opinions slip in there I I fully disagree try conville.com. My I I was on board with this. I can no longer recommend this. I said it was very helpful No longer display that bottom portion to protect the integrity. This is 80 helpful The last is that's what's confusing And it doesn't help that they led me to that conclusion because look at the pictures of a parasol in the umbrella The umbrella is red on top black and white stripes on the bottom. That's bold right and it's it's Like everyone else will see the red but you get to enjoy the black and white.  Does anyone ever call it a sunbrella? I like this. Well, that's the fabric Right, what is called sunbrella? Let me look up sunbrella so Sunbrella leader in performance fabric My god. Oh, I think sunbrella is a brand. Oh, okay, that makes more sense Oh, so they're giving us examples of brands sunbrella And sunproof, which I guess could probably probably the name of a company But yeah, I guess sun. Yeah, like those are brand. Do they give brands for opongi and nylon? That's fair enough I assume Pongi is a company. I don't as do I Anyway, uh, so anyway, uh, so uh umbrella says because now I know it's an umbrella because you could tell Because it has the the curved top. It's the rain on there, too Yeah, it's also a stylish and innovative Um, uh, they say listening to Should be an 11-hour podcast is probably the lowest of the low You're hitting it first everyone lowest of the low I mean in the gloom here. Thank you for not having a picture. I I don't know if I could take another exploration session Uh, he says I mean I'll listen while it works So like four hours one day for the next day and so on until it's done And then they say that's reasonable enough Yeah, so Yeah, that was a nice little that was like a little mini simpsons episode. Yeah, I'm not sure Full story. Yeah, the lowest below that was a quick turnaround like the end of an umbrella handle Yeah, they they kind of just they sort of they under they sawed the argument. They were like I'll accept it Yeah, that was a good argument. I have been enlightened. I guess that's good, right? That's probably better than I were getting super defensive But it's simultaneously a little bit disheartening that people out there can't figure this out for themselves They're like, why would you ever watch a longer podcast? What scenario are you able to listen to things to things through an extended amount of time? Someone goes, oh while at work and they go, whoa And to and from work and so you wonder like are they aware of work and stuff like that Do they know about it? I don't know Slounging around because generally when I listen to stuff I very rarely will sit down and Fully give my attention to a youtube video. I will be multitasking I'll be listening and it'll be up on my side monitor and I'll peer over once in a while Um, what do you miss people do shame? Yeah Um glad they came around though and now What do you may call the coup de gras for these twitter people?    I'm like, but you're all saying long man bad like what? I'll never understand this logic That's why we say it. You're why we say it if no one ever made those Statements anymore. We wouldn't we wouldn't ever say it You know, it's funny because it's true. That is the only argument. It's long. That's bad Like oh, she how you spend your time should conform to my standards Which is funny considering that Like one of the main things it gets talked about now lately It's just the idea that like the things that you assume are standard. It's worth considering that yes, um As well as these often come from the people who are like, you know, every position is valid every approach is valid And you shouldn't be trying to discriminate and then simultaneously except for that one Yeah, except for the one that upset me.  What good job Not all content is appropriate for you Oh, well, uh, that that's actually gonna come up in more ways than one. Um, oh my god So that'll be interesting a little pin in that one before we get started with today's Blooms, I want to because I was I was looking at the comments on the uh, the stream we did last night And so I want to show the efab people just one of the highlights. Okay, just one of the things Because they were quite amusing. You guys remember what game we played, right? No, okay, wait, wait, what? Neither of you listening You didn't understand what I meant when I said we streamed a game last night. I I do I don't know what you said before but it must have been different. Okay. Okay. Well, I was gonna I'm gonna throw up just just one highlight. All right. And then uh, it'll be on them to go and find this stream and watch it for themselves Okay, because we we all fully recommend it. Uh, I think So one two one four four. Here we are Now context for those in chat who have no idea what I'm about to show you The idea is it works like telephone. It's called gothic phone This game is amazing. It is kind of amazing. Yep The way it works is everybody has to create a prompt that starts a story and then the That story is like shifted around probably clockwise. It doesn't really matter And so now I have to draw the picture that represents the story that like maybe fringy just wrote And then it gets swapped again and rags has to draw well write down a sentence that represents the drawing I just made and by the end it creates a little story and so I think uh, this is just one of my favorites from the night So I'll show you an example as you can see on the screen here. This is where you're gonna be seeing The stuff happening Our young prostitute tries meth for the first time Brainy burned the tape on again Meme repository is probably trying to say is brainy the neighbor the prostitute. Is that the idea there? Maybe he meant britney britney. Maybe yeah And so I don't know how to get to an a to a y from i and it He wanted to say she burned the tampon again, but he spelled it so flimpy that it came out burn the tape on again So fringy just so it's fringy will only see The sentence brainy burned the tape on again. That's all he gets It's about how the image changes over time based on people's descriptions of it. So So, yeah, I thought again was a pink box. And so now let's see how it progresses Yeah The progress of that is phenomenal These if you guys haven't seen that this is what you're missing when you don't watch efab gaming's right This game is so much you will definitely have us playing this again. This is yeah, we played champed up a lot This is better. This is way better. It's back It's like if If it were possible to be way better It would have to be that it improves like loads of the mechanics, which it does the game is like just it's faster Like it's more efficient at getting to lofts and there's loads of modes and it's all customizable Like holy shit. You just improve completely And you said that game's free, right? It is free. Yes, that's a browser game I would totally pay for the amount of lofts we got This is really great. I'm I'm very much looking forwards to playing this again Um, I guess I'll show one more example from the other kind of game that happened Some which was also good. I don't know if I like it better. Maybe just a little bit less, but it's still good Yeah, yeah, there's loads of really fine things that come out of it like different kinds of jokes In terms of how things work so for chat, right the way this one works Is that um someone draws an image and the next person sees it and has to replicate it Based on they you can take as much time as you want to look at it But as soon as you choose to stop looking at it you have to go from memory and so It gets tougher and tougher to maintain especially with the clock running out Like it gets faster and faster. So this is just an example of how it deteriorates I tried to start off super easy. So hopefully this one made it to the end I think this one has to survive I draw something like this pretty late in the game. I feel like I'm around with the time All right Oh It became Satan Watching this again makes me smile. Well, yeah, we're probably gonna want to try and set up to play this again Like sudo rather than latex. It's just you know, I'm curious Absolutely, if this one will even run out of steam, especially with with trading out like those different people to play it the Oh, it was a fun one. Yeah Because as some people are better than others. We'll say it. Wow We won't be specific. I don't know how we're doing it. Yeah, but the people like Me more positive is really bad at this game It's hilarious though Yeah, you'll often just it'll just completely deviate everything. It's like oh, it was going one way But now it's going this way But part of why that's so entertaining is to see people interpret his images and then how they move on. Yes. Yeah He is the he is the the speed bump on the way to progress. Yeah They stand very interesting Yeah, and I recommend if you have if you have friends check it out with them gothic phone Yeah So this wouldn't work for all the people on twitter that we've been showing No, no one and of course, uh, the link is at the top of this video now I just I just saved it. So it'll be on moolah eventually like all the uh EFAP gaming's are rolling out there Eventually and so that that's about that for the intro because we kind of need to jump right in Um, we have four Falcon winter soldier takes we'll probably get through like two and then we'll be like, oh, no, we've hit 13 hours damn Oh, god, we will try as you can see there are three of us that is Designed to help. I'm rags the speed in which we can approach this because we'll have like there's four people's perspectives that we no longer have to spend time Listening to and bouncing off obviously so we can go faster. That is the logic here four videos This isn't because I never want to cover falcon and the winter soldier again. That's not it I don't have a replacement reason. So yeah Well, because I I would I would love to not have to think about that show again Uh, not until that show made us angry. Yeah, we're clear. Yeah Like oh, yeah, oh that show was so funny with how about it. No the show upset us Yeah, because one division because we're manchurian this was frustrating And you know what not nice to have frustration after we've just had such a fun gaming stream, you know, that's just not nice Yeah, that's right. Life is filled with highs and lows. I guess My face is still sore and that doesn't happen often. Hmm My back I think It flared up the pain in my back because I was laughing so much It was like My I think my lungs all my throat.  Well, my face will it works. I guess it coincidentally works the same as you guys So like it's totally forever We have of the four Um, I guess we'll reveal them as we go But first it's a person Who has been covered once before and the video was like, okay It was like a 50 50 if I remember correctly and it's someone who um, It's welcome to come on if ever they want to But I had a lot of people requesting us cover this video seven minutes long. It's by cheffrellis productions Uh, he he has a take on this show Uh, let's check it out. See what happens. See how it goes funding for cheffrellis is provided by square space The spot today's video from websites and online stores to marketing tools and analytics Squarespace is the all-in-one platform to build a beautiful. That is a very low res Yeah, I was about to say is that me? Or is that watched together? It is is it the video? No, it's gotta be no the videos are way clear. This is him. Sometimes my watch together is a bit blurry, but I No, it's it's in the video.  I thought I did provide art for people They did for me when I did one uh promotion Not for them, but you know, maybe he only does 4jp videos. You don't know Yeah It'll render quicker. I know that Yeah, definitely, you'll save like you say like two whole seconds in the render. Yes Beautiful online presence and run your business.   Oh, we get so sued. So anyway, I thought the show was Ooh, I don't even get the reference. Oh, no Look at that squeeze Squeezed it in wait. Did he Did he un-wide screen it did he stretch it up and down? Ew Because I don't touch movies when I No, I don't touch them They were made that wild purpose like like zack sniders justice league Don't so so this is the thing I don't even know if we've really talked about it But like aspect ratio Is a thing and there's a couple of choices you can make when you're creating your videos For example, if you're dealing with let's say you're cutting up zack sniders justice league Justice league as well as a tv show that maybe is full screen So you're dealing with three different aspect ratios You can make the choice to essentially falsify the others to be four by three But then you have to be very careful, which is not what high top and brown table did with um Approaching the videos in terms of like how you cut Uh, the things that weren't four by three, right? For example, if you're gonna cut this by four by three you probably start Around just to the left of falcon and you end on Cutting out the other side that you try and capture the what is Hopefully the part of the screen, but at the same time Now this is something that high top and brown table should respect more than even we would Uh, there's a reason they shot it like this. They want all this in the frame preservation of the The source material, you know, yeah, which by the way, it's fine. I know we hate him. It's fine But uh, joss ween has said the buffy and Well, buffy not angel but buffy should only be watched in four by three because that's how it was like they filmed it With the intention of only what it was in the four by three to be seen not the stuff on the sides Great lots of problems when you add it back in um But yeah, you know They know right like I think when they're filming they have little like they can have like a little square on the screen They have so that they know what is going to be in it. What is going to be out all that stuff So when you're making this decision, you're like gosh, and I know that phil mento said this is like Can my fans handle the four by three? Like I don't know which is very I don't know what to say for that. I just like wow all you have to say is I'm gonna I'm going to show this in four by three because that's what the original death that was or I'm going to Show it in this aspect ratio and it takes two seconds to say that and boom. It's covered. Yeah for me. Um All by three is just like well, it's different enough that I'm not going to attempt to try and change it like zooming in I will consider it when Putting like clips from you know like when aquaman points if I want that in future videos I might zoom in to him to make it match like widescreen or full screen Yeah, because it's just him pointing that you care about in that image And I think if you don't know what the snider cut is and you see jason momoa pointing like that in a square You're like, why did you make that a square and it's like it's well Okay, well So there's an immersion factor. It's kind of where I'm going with this If you wanted to make everything full screen you could have zoomed in Right, that's probably where I would have gone first not stretching it What I find strange is that he's already had uh like four by three images. So why does he Why does he want to stretch this? I don't think this is for copyright. I don't think it'll make a difference Yeah, I don't think this is happening. Yeah, so yeah, I guess in conclusion I would probably uh say that maintaining the native aspect ratio of everything is totally fine I wouldn't blame anybody for making that choice if you want to try and fiddle with it to make it match better For example, all of his full screen except a few clips. They're in um Is it letterbox when they have the bars above and below? So as shorthand I can't quite remember, but I think so if you decided to zoom in on that To make it look full screen when it's not which I've done before Um, I think it can honestly help in terms of that one guy out there who watches thing goes Oh, there's some black bars now. They're gone. That seems a little incongruent even though it would be native That presumably I think that's totally fine as a choice to make But man, don't stretch it so that people start looking really weird The sort of the locations is distracting. I just don't I'm not quite sure why do that's all I have a feeling we might be getting this for the whole video now if this one is already like this Look just just acclimate. Well, nothing's been right so far. It's all been Not bad. I'm a grand over 25 seconds in but it's not gonna say right or I mean, I'm mostly I'm mostly forgiving and stuff like this if the script is all right Yeah, it's just weird to see for you.  I would have believed you Was youtube started 2015 before was it 2005 Wow, oh man that even that makes you point even accents my joke further. Yes, it does Marvel would get so sued. So anyway, I thought the show was pretty good with a few fatal flaws that keep it back from being pretty great Before this show, I always found Bucky to be one of the most boring MCU characters. Oh, wow Wow, what an in what a what an interesting opinion Well What can you do when someone says something is boring? We'll wait for him, of course to make his qualifications But beforehand I would argue he's possibly one of the most interesting in terms of a normal man Signs up to fight in world war one is almost killed and saved by his best friend who then joins a like What are they just like off the books sort of the howling commanders or they are they um They're just a really special. I don't know. They're like some special forces. Yeah, special forces. Yeah So he joins that and during one of the missions against a Sect of the nazis that specialized in like sci-fi technology is thrown from a train And before death is experimented on by the nazis who found him to be given a mechanical arm because he lost it in the accident And experimented on to the point of having super soldier Abilities and then his mind is wiped and brainwashed into becoming a soldier for like oh, I feel like already We've gone way into how interesting he is. I'm just like, oh, I don't even finish the story yet We've like a third in Yeah, I think I'll sorry we'll we'll do yeah a little dynamic So um, yeah, there's no need to keep going. I just I just uh I know several people who are like very invested in the show because of bucky They were like I can't wait to finally have a something that focuses on bucky instead of him being like a secondary character immense amounts of potentials that you can have with this character There's a lot of stuff you could go with him. He could become Fully heroic. He could become tragic. It's all kinds of things you could do He's uh, a very open-ended with how you want to resolve him. I basically did nothing Well, yeah, and it's such a shame show hurt him Because the first thing you see is like he's reliving a winter soldier's assassination Then he wakes up at night with ptsd having you know haunting him. You're like, this is a fantastic start Good. This is we're good. We're good. And then that's about it The rest of it's like really overt or really thin or he is ignored It's like and it almost seems to me It's just like they got the one bit that I think everybody would have gotten right right. So that's All right You did that um boy So yeah, um Let's see why why he thinks that it's like yeah He's suffering and all that but they never really took the time to explore his suffering. He's suffering all that. Yeah They did take the time to explore it but they never explored it. Wouldn't that what be this this show would be? Like we've called it. I mean, he's he is the titular winter soldier Suffering but they would explore it. That's amazing Or something I mean, I would even go as far as in civil war Um and winter soldier have lots of pieces that you get to uh, yep appreciate Absolutely Like the idea that we haven't gone into it with more depth, so I should be like I being I'm the one who doesn't like this show and presumably he thinks it's good. If not great This was the show to do it, right? Wouldn't you feel that way? Look finally the show that can flesh him out Strange but all right, but they never really took the time to explore his suffering They just thrust him into action where he doesn't have any personality and we only care about him Why would he have personality in his missions? Wow also? He does have personality He does yes, uh, we've got so much He just said we only care about him because steve does he doesn't have any personality. This is oh, this is intensely wrong. I care a lot about him Oh, we're gonna be so Yeah, we're to begin uh, so I think I think there's an implication what he said that like He just gets thrown in because they need action But like that's not That's not what's happening like it's he's critical to the plot of both films. Yeah It's also he's a Well, it makes sense to have him in action sequences. Yeah, of course if you want action sequences It makes sense to use characters Who would be in action sequences?  He actually even is like curious He's got elements to him. Um, I can't remember correctly But you know when uh, robert redford shoots the the maid does he seem a little bit unsettled by that at all? I can't remember. Who is he just like that's chill. I don't think so because he's obviously Is he in the shot? Um, yes, I I think he is Well, uh going off memory of that particular. I remember the scene.  Um, and then civil war We get lots of lines from bucky that give you a strong insight to how he's feeling about everything One of the ones I think that would be all of our favorites or at least one of the many is uh When he says I remember all of them a very strong indication of the existence he has And then of course talking to steve about whether or not he believes he's even worth this And then if you know bucky from first avenger Plus they're like bantering about the lives they had in the past You've got a very very normal friendly person who's trapped underneath all of this the horror of his years When we want him back He's got to deal with all the repercussions of having lived that life like I I don't get it. Um, what's funny. I think it's really interesting Is that like I know several people who's Would like the most excited they were about characters in the mcu buck. He was like at the top Understandably, sorry because he's gonna know what he'll do. Yeah And they blow it. I mean he's he's surface level cool As well people want to see more of him doing cool stuff And underneath that you're like, oh as well as he's got this interesting character that they can do a bunch of stuff with Especially with how he ties into the mcu and the other characters. He's not just out there on his own Oh, someone said uh, he says I'm with you till the end of the line. It's like don't remind me because Cap was clearly not with him till the end of the line Unfortunately, no, that's right. He abandoned him Um, but yeah, of course, this is just considering Everything up to I mean, you know winter soldier wasn't ruined by endgame Cap was damaged, of course, uh Winter soldier was ruined by lots of portions of this very show But apparently it wasn't that interesting to begin with which honestly, I I don't even know that I've heard that take before The new one I haven't And falcon was okay. He was pretty cool and winter soldier, but I stopped caring about him pretty quickly after that Well, what are you all this?  All right. I guess so then like Uh, moving on don't make me care about these guys Probably because there's plenty of time to flesh them out and see them living life Copying with their insecurities and struggles and baggage and insert that one line from shrek that james uses in all his videos here so I mean like the idea of those things happening Is it exists? Yeah, I can see why someone would have said that's what they saw But it's not really what was it. But that's not what happened But you knew enough to know that that's what they were trying to do but you just accepted that it was pulled off But it wasn't not really so like I'm getting like hardcore cosmonaut vibes from this This video like in terms of just the argumentation style of just sort of throwing out thoughts without saying anything about why you think it And people just accepting it That's kind of like the vibe. I'm getting from this Well, yeah, it's not very persuasive so far. It's just sort of no This reminds me of like conversations I've had with people about media where they just say something like Oh, yeah, I kind of stopped caring about it.  Like what like what is this? I just stopped caring about it. That's just my opinion Well, yeah, these are just like that's how you would respond. He would say uh He would say I'm just I'm just sharing my thoughts. So I'm sharing my thoughts Because what I do? These are his thoughts me sharing them Let's see if they get better. I got really into both of them for the first time But it's falcon who really steals the show here. True. He like destroys everything. He was the most boring I mean he was uninteresting. His character was destroyed. He was insanely frustrating That's and they focused on him way more than bucky That's kind of why I would say like maybe you're right.  It was a video It goes over Kitchen nightmares like reality shows big brother Brings god talent all those like sort of ones And he basically like categorizes how they use music to manipulate you which is not. Oh, yeah for anybody here Well kitchen nightmares. It's really well. It's on the uh on the american version Yeah, well, so there's the two versions. Yeah. Yeah, the british one's a lot better in terms of Yeah, he compares the british one and the american one as a big part of the video Which is obviously one of the I think most people already aware of this, but we'll go over it anyway So in the british one the example he has is um going around. He's like walking into the the restaurant and um There's like a sort of standard beat just just background music where he's walking in And it just slowly fades out as he introduces himself to the woman and talks to her And then she finally starts admitting that it's doing terrible and that they could very well have to close And then it cuts to like a wide and he's like this is the unfortunate reality for a lot of restaurants in britain And it's silent, right? He's just talking also Before you go further, um, notice, I don't know if it'll be get brought up. I haven't seen this video But gordon ramsey is the narrator for the british version in the american version They have their own narrator narrating in third person what gordon ramsey's doing Hmm They didn't bring that up and I I couldn't even remember that myself, but yeah So the american one he talks about how they um They would have started with like that probably would have been their template and then they were like Well, when you have moments that are like really shocking in the episodes that have almost been edited to to be payoffs at particular points Musical cues come in with them And then they they keep doing it and they're so they're getting Chunked up everywhere to the point where they start to have scenes that don't have music in them And they're like, oh, we better put music in them to make sure because otherwise It's going to come across as strange now that there's even a portion without it And this is what the scene they show Where like it bounces in a matter of about 10 seconds to four different like musical crescendos to represent completely different emotional states like a dramatic horrible tension to super uplifting to sacrificial to comedic and you're just like Whoa, this is like whiplash The music and the sound effects they have the horror music the strings they have the Mm-hmm kind of Yeah, and they have like a very intense orchestral sort of music as well kind of Works like lots of violins and like really quick And and they use it in like house kitchen and stuff as well Um, but if it was more out of place in kitchen nightmares, I feel like it was really Another sad. Yeah. Uh, there's another really cool example where he said there was a the britain scar talent one There was this guy coming on stage and his whole thing was a dog That you show what you've written on a card to But not the guy and then you'll talk to the dog and the dog will tell him what you've written on it. That's the trick And uh sad music is already playing and some of the people there are like sad and He was like this is so confusing because this isn't sad at all like what's what's happening And then once the trick's over he explains the history of the dog and it involves how the dog Jumped in front of someone going to stab him because he's a police officer and it actually took the stab for him Which is like insane And like everybody's welling up while watching this video explain what the dog did and it's just like yeah The music and the editing will try to prepare you for this because it doesn't quite come in natural Well, you know as naturally as it can but at the same time like it's almost like a fuck-up There's like well I gotta get you sad because this is about to get very sad like the music is directing you because it can't have You think for yourself another comparison he does is um, I think it's like a david attenborough narrated nature show where he describes a crocodile What it is and what it does and it's just moving through and I don't think there's a soundtrack and then he compares it to another Like shittier nature program where they have this like monster music and it's just like this horrifying Creature is going to hunt down And um, he's like imagine they did this for when like a pigeon eats a whip And he just does creates that himself and it's like hilarious because it's It's just making sure you have the emotion they want you to feel now. Where do you think i'm going with this? Well, yeah Yeah, I think I I wonder if there's a show If there's a show that does this that we recently watched the show's many out of everybody It really Wants you to feel things And it is very confident and very insistent that you feel certain ways With this show regardless of context and regardless of what's actually happening You need to feel this way At this scene when you're looking at this guy feel this way when this happens feel this way Very very obnoxious I'd call it and I feel of course, you know, we just need to go ahead So so just a quick example You remember the one we were showing in the last uh if I were we He tosses the shield at someone in neck and they're like stunned and then he kicks them across um If we were able to just get an extra shot in here and then change the music so he hits him With the shield it hits him in the neck you make like a sharp like shock sound maybe even horror And then a scream from the guy you did it to and he kicks him a back breaking sound and then back breaks into the wall And then it cuts to the extra shot we have is it shows cap's face And he looks down at himself He looks back up And he's like scared or shocked at what he's done and we play the right musical cue and then the scene carries on Now that would be That would be quite manipulative now wouldn't it compared to what they had in place and it's just like Well, they have those videos on youtube where they take uh shows And movies and stuff and they re-edit them to be like You know such and such movie But it's a horror film and they just re-edit it and they change the music and some of the Cuts and it looks like a horror film even though it's like a comedy or a kid's movie Well, man, you could it was up people are very easy to manipulate And it's it's kind of it's awkward because people would say like well, isn't that the point of music? And it'd be like well, I think music probably ought to accentuate the emotions that you already have Rather than like trying to warp What is a reasonable interpretation? Yeah, we want them to be congruent with the event. Yeah, that's gonna be the key factor. It's the sauce not the meal You know, which fun enough like it'd be I was just gonna say like kitchen nightmares will often At least at some points have the correct emotion quote-unquote But they've like blown it up and it's almost cartoonish and it's a breakneck as well in terms of how it'll change And the issue nightmares. Yeah. Yeah the the issue there a lot of people will claim is just like It's not letting you experience it for yourself. You're almost being told with each part of the music exactly how to feel at all times So it's like, yeah, there's also a level of subtlety you need as well. It's it's complex. Music is very complex Music is like Good music is like a super soldier serum. It just makes you more of what you really are Hmm, right. Well, yeah, exactly it's because you think about appropriate tracks and Like like when you watch, you know return to the Jedi and then you have your epic space battle music for when this space battle is happening But when you have your intense one-on-one, you know dual with luke and vader, it's appropriately somber Well somber kind of mixed with that one's hard to describe because it's so good, but it'd be really awkward like if you watch civil war and when When steve is fighting tony if they were playing really happy upbeat music That would be really weird like if they played the avengers feet theme really optimistically as he stabbed the shield Into his arc reactor that would kind of take you out of it To um jump this one ahead because I just think it's very relevant Super chat says can't the same argument be made for the lack of music to manipulate an audience? No music can also warp your emotions. I really feel like I would argue the opposite It's uh giving you free reign to only react to the events that you're seeing on screen And so if if the point of seeing it like a child mood or something You go, well that's manipulating me to be sad. I'd be like, oh well now we're getting into uh I can't even know what to say anymore no no music is like The application of no music is more like real life so and Yeah, I'm not sure what's because like music isn't Depending on what the story is is like a non-diagetic element. It's like an extra thing that's getting added on So if you're watching like saving private ryan The the whole point of there being no music is like, oh, this is the experience at this particular moment And you just need to take it in If they had music And and I think we mentioned on the stream like that movie fury which has a lot of music that always is Insisting like how you're meant to feel about what's happening. Like this is a tank battle. It's really intense This part's really sad. We need to play this music and it's like Look you let people like figure out so if you had like a fight scene Between maybe cap and iron man and it's nobody's really getting hurt and it's bouncing forward He's got epic music, but then um the music would suddenly cut I think it would put us all in a position of like, you know, and the punch is a really sounding really hard The dream is over. Yeah. Yeah, we're like fantasies over. This is what could really happen. It's real and in the real world There is no soundtrack Mm-hmm Anyway, yeah, this this show makes the shit out of people and it really annoyed us That is that is a conclusion to use music and camera work for the majority of uh, how it manipulates you Um, yes, I think the idea that falcon and bucky ditched lamar and cap isn't something that Basically anybody who likes to shows even thought was a thing that happened. I don't think they even considered it And it's because the the the direction and like the the attitude of the show is just not actually acknowledging it Just like nah, that's fine. It would not a thing shut up.  It's like no, we're not. That's just what happened. Yeah That james uses in all his videos here I got really invested in both of them for the first time But it's falcon who really steals the show here Sam trying to come to terms with what steve wanted for him compared to his own hesitation about being a black man holding The shield is really powerful stuff. I love everything with i but remember it's incongruous because yeah Yeah, it doesn't make sense that in an endgame that was not the impression that that scene leaves you with that He doesn't think that he could be captain america Yeah, this again unfortunately the world the world as built wasn't ready for any of this You needed to let everybody know who was writing all those other stories that this is where you were going So they could actually have these issues rise up instead of just being plonked on There's some other creator will probably come along at some point and not address any of this stuff because they're doing their story So we're just gonna have to like it to me.  I don't want to tell my own asia bradley and how tragic his story is I like that scene in the second episode where the pig. Well, here's the thing.  Did he wait? Hold on. Can we do anything with asia bradley and how tragic his story is? I like that scene in the second episode where the pigs harassed sam Pigs he called them pigs. He called the cops pigs. Well, that's great. Wow Um, okay I'm sure. Wow.  Yeah, that's right Uh, we're you're on the list where we don't you know, you did not you don't actually like us or respect us or want us So we're not going to help you out at all I like how as well it's um, wow It's even worse than you might imagine too because to call the one that made the mistake a pig Because you think that they're like, I don't know hyper prejudice and a bad person What about the ones that just turn up to do their job? What about the one that corrects the police officer that made the mistake? Are they all pigs? Like, oh, okay Yeah, um, it's a great attitude Because remember profiling and Profiling a huge group of people based on the actions of a small minority. That's very very bad to do All right, we shouldn't ever do that. That's definitely not something that's cool However, pigs if that group is police officers Then it's okay for you to take that and apply that to the entire group as a whole unfairly But these are very principled people who are very intelligent And yeah, just to back up what you said, it's just like, um Believe me like I hope you never get into a situation We really need the cops then like because you'll just be like, oh look at them helping me those pigs I can't believe it So are the black cops are they pigs too? presumably I imagine that I would say that yeah It's like because acab brunt Yeah, all the get's All cops I kind of like that The acab thing exists because it's so it's so nice when you're when someone has that and like their profile You know that just instantly you don't have to care about anything that they say That's pretty you can just move on to another you just move on to another person because this is not a reasonable individual That you should take seriously. So it's it's really a time saver Oh, yeah, so you can do the isiah thing um His story it's a it's a tragic story that they made up for this. Uh, I don't feel like it's real Well, yeah, so in the sense that a story can be real So for us artificial There's no difference between what the writers told me about isiah's story as there is with someone going I'm gonna make my story about how hard it was for a black guy.  I mean, it's Especially now with bringing people back to life and ret conning things They're going full comic book in terms of what they're doing with this which is fascinating when You see them talk about how apparently they have 10 to 15 people whose responsibility is to make sure that everything's like consistent in the universe I mean you hear that for a lot of these franchises like star wars has that person too But like I don't understand what's happening because like this can't work You can't just drop isaia in Said that he's been around since like the 50s as a super soldier and that there were other Super soldiers and have it never come up ever in any other stories except for now Also, he beat the shit out of winter soldier winter soldier never told steve this during civil war when all the super soldier shit came up He was just like, uh, I and if you would ask them on set you'd have been like, what do you mean? You're making all this up. I'd be like, yeah Because it's not a part of the story Oh, well Of everything with isaia bradley and how tragic his story is I like that scene in the second episode where the pigs harassed sam before realizing he's an avenger and being like Oh, sorry, I didn't recognize you because it's unfortunately pretty realistic. This is the first time to see you pretty Really, really. Yeah, this is How many times does something have to happen? Like percentage-wise of the times it happens, right until it becomes Realistic or not. Is it just one time doesn't have to happen once I feel like most I feel like a lot of people just recognize anthony mackey if they sort of let alone like in this universe Falcon one of the adventures. Everybody knows who he is. They're not gonna one of the issues with the show Super selective recognition of these two people. Yeah, and everybody knows who these people are We're closer to highlighting a different kind of issue where celebrity status will often get you out of trouble Um versus non, which is I guess a class issue, uh Yeah, but oh well You know like like the idea that this is the thing It's just so awkwardly done too because we just had this whole Speech about how this black person was horribly treated and he's like a mirror of captain america Then like seconds later. They're like is this black person bothering you bucky?  Property in a long time that feels like it takes place in the real world.  Jesus Christ. How do you even say that? None of the laws work properly. Nobody goes to jail for anything Yeah, it's nonsense. None of this can work. None of this could work in the real world. You could believe that in civil war even I don't want to say winter soldier, but Yeah, I'm not gonna say winter soldier, but at least in civil war, right? You're like this could exist in the world like I could believe that You know with all the allowances we're giving for these people and events and superpowers This could happen in the real world These would be what the actual consequences of these things would be this show is allergic to consequences They just don't exist. They disappear between scenes their reference, but never executed the blip and unblip too Like to include that and then be like yep, this is very realistic You're like the world wouldn't even be close to the same It would it's uh, but yeah, you know it's realistic. It's great Nice and grounded. I was so invested It also the person calling cops pigs is like, yeah, that's a realistic world Okay, all right Okay It concerns itself with real life issues and the fact that it's a tv show means that it actually takes the time to focus on these issues No, it doesn't it doesn't it skips over bucky's ptsd.   I hope you guys managed to achieve some stuff. I guess Someone said mcu never had obama. They did he only got one term though Because they replaced his second term with a different president for the mcu Well, because they have that other guy Well, I I guess it would be safe to assume that obama is not canon in the dc in the mcu like he it's someone else Well, I think his first term is Is it If I'm in three I'm in one was 2008 and then I meant he's after 2012 so that means his first term would have been right Yeah, it had to have been an Iron Man two that he was mentioned then Oh, I don't know if he's mentioned by name. I haven't got a reference for that Um, I guess let's see So I guess uh mcu president timeline Is there a timeline like on the internet somebody actually thought this Obama is in the mcu. Well, is there a simple google reference for this obama? Barack Obama looks like obama Apparently luke cage mentioned him, but I don't know if that if that counts Oh, he's in It says captain america winter soldier and then book in quoting in quote. What does that mean? I think somebody in chat said that there was a book about obama on on the bookshelf Oh, that'll be enough That's nothing. All right Yeah, apparently he is mentioned in the in winter soldier. So Oh Okay, well mentioned. It could be a name on a book. You know, uh I think that counts. I think that definitely counts because it was another it was a different obama It was a white obama. It was it was his brother Steve But that doesn't even include the iam patriot stuff, which is completely animal, which is the important part Yeah, which we can't talk about We're not gonna mention that rather than brushing past them the dialogue bits are the best part of the Because I was like Show by par the action being fine. There's some standout fight scenes, but nothing. No, there aren't It was no like I mean standoff in the sense of which one is worse I like how he just totally I like how he totally breezed past the dialogue's really good No, the action scenes are all right, but there are a few standout ones like what what is this? It's all terrible actually. It's all horrific This is this stuff is written in like a half hour. This this script. It's just thoughts absolutely This is this is like cosmo 101 in terms of just the way that the arguments are presented It's just like you had a thought and you wrote it down and then you moved on to the next one And you're just going and you're not substantiating anything It's so disappointing because People will look up to this and try to emulate it, but there's like nothing to emulate that isn't just It's the whole um What thought theater originally did right with his mando video. It's you see it all the time You just do it because that's what you do.  We have piano music I just assert things and say them and just move on to pools randomly and there's nothing to it It's empty. There's no work or like passion that goes into it Um, and yeah, the the dialogue was horrible.   That's some good dialogue Best part of the show by far with the action being fine. There's is there an action scene we thought was No We're the one where lamar died That that was the one where they weren't killing each other for some reason. They were just throwing knives at each other Oh, yeah, bucky spays them. He's not killing them.  No That was never how it worked He's but again the fight scene that he's showing here sam kills all these guys and they're not super stuff They're just normal guys, which is fine because they're trying to kill him like ironically like They're incompetent cartoon logic where it's like kills matter when I say they do and you're like, oh Yeah, it's the whole thing of kill the goons, but not the main head honcho who was actually Mostly Yeah, the most awful of them all the person you should be going for the most Well, yeah, because captain marvel kills all those other people, but then when that's jude law She just puts them in a spaceship and it's like, oh, it's funny.  She does kill his when he was like the leader of this whole thing That's right. She just postures in front of him.  It's like, oh Some stand out fight scenes, but nothing too crazy. It was better than which which all the In all the fight scenes are one of those things that I would put against the whole it's realistic thing because it's the the fight scenes are Insanely unrealistic or have how guns just aren't present unless they are for one shot And then they get knocked away instantly As if they want to just remind you that the gun was there actually but it's not going to be brought up anymore because it I like how he's comparing it to one division.  It was not a better example That's the thing is being like it's better than one division. Like, okay Yeah, good for it. Of course it is Nothing too crazy. It was better than one division's action scenes. That's for sure Zemo was a really fun addition and he stole every scene he was in I thought you said falcon stole the show. Yeah, I thought Well falcon stole the show except for when zemo stole the zemo stole all the scenes that he was Please please redraft. Please It makes sense control f stole. Oh wait for every moment falcon was on the screen. We shouldn't even have to control it It's been two minutes. I know You could probably zoom out enough and put it on the same screen. You think that so like yeah, because brains have like memory So you shouldn't have to remember that you said this I definitely made these mistakes in prior drafts. I'll be like, oh, I've described something as amazing Like three times in a row.   Do you see what he did this before he said the show was pretty good But a few floors keep it from being pretty great. This is like you'd need to do better. Sorry We didn't even cite her character changes of flow because we don't have the context of it yet Yeah, you can't actually like being like, uh, you know Having to do things throughout a character is without explanation is bad. It's like well not yet I'm considering they kind of reinvented her entire character without any hint as to how she became this new person The reveal that she was a power broker is but like what's for these zooms Well, I don't really I don't know. I think but I think this is in the show Well, no because he's I guess it's hard to tell because it's so blurry I was gonna say he's already fucked with the aspect ratio But this could just be a standard zoom. Yeah Not sure because she doesn't look that stretched She might be um Yeah, I uh, I think the show is very much aware that Sharon is not Sharon, you know, and it's like mystery Yeah, mystery box. Like I wouldn't call this a flip. You know, like tlj was never like Wait, luke isn't luke.  No, it was falcon getting the shield Yeah, I agree. I don't who'd be the power could bet nothing to me. I was like, all right, then Yeah, I guess they just they wanted the actress back or Um, maybe she knew somebody that wanted for new stuff coming up.   So it doesn't show on their faces, which is fair enough And in a mountain by the ends, I don't know why they bothered don cheeto showed up for five minutes And that was pretty epic carly. Why is that your analysis? Why is it your epic? It it's weird that he never showed up again Like for the resolution, you know, I was kind of hoping that he was gonna be in the show Like uh, yeah, because I feel like he has some input to give us given his character in this universe Yeah, because people talk about how like falcon side lined with tony.  I about too is probably the most war machine we've ever gotten from one movie, right? Um, yeah, because he's more of a focus and ever since I guess he is getting a show later on armor wars Well, let's hope that one does him justice and doesn't make him a psychopath. Yeah That would be nice if we got a good war machine. I war machine is cool. Like I really like War machine on a on a very surface level. I just need more.  Look how much he's been through. He's been here since iron man two Oh, sorry, iron man one actually um God he's one of the most like longest running characters and this is barely I've ever been for him. It's crazy It's it's kind of unreal, but he never got a movie as well Why didn't they make a war machine movie like with black widow how she didn't get her own movie until she's dead Maybe they kill him Saying that this guy thinks that luke's arc and tlj was good and he liked it So if that's the case, then he's you never know what to expect. Did he I thought you I I wouldn't be 100 But I could have sworn that he wasn't he was like 50 50 on it at most, but maybe I don't know Honestly, I'm not gonna be too shocked by anything at this point It was okay.  I don't get these people. I don't understand them They're just like this is what we're supposed to think or what we're supposed to He said he said she felt like a real revolutionary and not a mustache. I didn't like you mate. I didn't hear that part Oh, well, I can play again Hey, I like how she feels like a real revolutionary and not a mustache twirling villain She's totally a mustache twirler. It's kind of funny You're supposed to feel sad for Dude, even if there was one we're like, okay, you're getting a bit mustachey twirly right now Yeah, even her own team thinks that she's like too evil Is he saying real revolutionaries are too evil? Well, he doesn't think that she's too evil, but the show It's very confusing to read. Hopefully we'll get something from him.  I don't know but I don't but he thinks that cops are pigs so who So he probably has a good opinion on modern day revolutionaries or something I mean, if he likes calling in hates types Yeah, the cops so far it's like who What a side to pick but all right, he thinks she's uh, she's well, let's see what else he says about it At the same time, she's not really that compelling of a threat, especially not compared to john walker Oh What? Oh, no, where are we going?  Oh god, where are we going? I'm not happy with that setup.  I why why why did you hate him? But he was an ironically amazing person He's one of those people Yeah, well, yeah, he's not a bright boy. It's pretty clear. Oh god. This is gonna be fun to listen to I can't remember the last time I got this invested in hating a fictional character Why what was there to hate?  He's basically doing amazing. Didn't he's showing the scene of walker and uh I almost called him starburst Battlestar That that'll start after After uh, they get bucky out of prison bucky's been arrested and so captain american pays his bail And gets him out of prison.  Well, and then they're like, hey, how about we work together and and sam's like Oh, we're free agents. We're more flexible.  Yeah, that's not even like so if for example I was somehow able to be like an iron man type and just roll around everywhere I want to do whatever I want and you two are government agents I'd be like and if you said let's work together I go now I'm a free agent I would expect one of you to be like, um, that doesn't mean we can't work together That just means that we have different rules for where we could go at what times that we do Yeah, we want we want the same thing and if we can still pool our information to work together But it never pans out. We haven't lost anything like It's unreal because when we were watching it we've talked about it before but we knew he was gonna be Quote-unquote evil But we were getting very confused because we're paying very close attention and everything he had done up to this point Was not only like awesome of him, but like it was showing him to be a very very good person And it was very confusing that like Bucky and falcon hate him and like I said, I cannot understate Because because rags just mentioned he got him out of prison and he got him off the therapist and he's approved in for active duty Like these are things that are just amazing. It's like Bucky should be incredibly thankful But maybe those things kind of get dwarfed by the fact that bucky's life was saved By him.  I'm picturing the Shea frillis. How have you pronounced it? Um, I'm picturing when he was watching it.     Y'all suck It's like y'all are purposefully ruining things And all I've got left is well, I mean But like if you look at how the main characters look and feel if you if you listen to the music if you watch the camera angles Walk is kind of a bad guy Oh All right, I wonder if he's gonna reference anything outside of this is really he's really easy to manipulate Well, I'm sure he's about to tell us he doesn't have much of a doesn't have focus He doesn't he's not critical of media, which is odd considering his job I guess I'm sure he's gonna tell us this psychopath murdered an innocent person or something.  That's like the equivalent of go outside. I guess Um, so he thinks all cops are pigs though Well, yeah, the response to that would just be like go and meet and discuss things with some cops Maybe even What if you had a family member never mind whatever that was like just exactly the amount of ignorance that I would expect at this point But uh, it's it is interesting to me like we never really cover that whole like people Sending messages to actors as a result of the before was it? I'm just like I never even think like what what is wrong with you Why would you ever do that just stop? Like it doesn't even I don't think to have it come up. Yes, it's it's insane that you would do that That's unreal. It's the playing a character It's that job As the season continued on I started seeing walker more and more as the main antagonist compared to carly Because the show The person who's blowing up buildings full of people.  Like why are you real? You're showing her next to the van. She's about to set on fire Like what are you doing? Do you guys remember when they beat him to to a pulp and broke his arm and stole his shield when all he did was say you guys should see a medic Yeah, they finally show up and he's he's emotionally traumatized And they show up and his first thought is y'all should make sure that you guys are okay What an awesome.  John Walker is a Chad.  What did you hate about him? I could on the locker room chat the interview the the what those are all examples of him being evil. So yeah, um, but Like it's it's it's one thing to say that you don't like him and you think he's a bad guy It's quite another to say he's worse and more antagonistic or should have been the antagonist compared to Carly Like what are you calling who incinerated three people to death and like another 11 people who wanted to do more Except the good guys stopped her Like if the good guys weren't there I quote a good guys weren't there to stop her murderous awfulness So many more people would have died horribly Like look at our body count compared to walkers and the circumstances too Yeah, Walker killed one enemy combatant In the midst of battle in the midst of battle. Yes, you know, Carly is found mine Carly premeditated To blow up a building filled with people.  She's yeah, and she's not She was hoping to kill all the board members as well Yes, that's right. And she did her justification. I don't mean to kill people in her matter. Oh, wow Like you're just the worst. She's doing. I feel like someone trying to stop you matters Yeah, well, no, he doesn't not to the cause rags not to that which is kind of I think Stupid it would matter you killed uh captain america's black wing man that represents like The g.r.c.'s police force in a way like surely it would matter you killed battle star Like people would care about battle star, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, because as people are saying Lamar was a bro. He was Lamar was amazing. There's literally nothing wrong with the whole series Yeah, I would have been calling a show that was you know, he's two john walker and Lamar teaming up going on adventures I want to see that They said man, it was really endearing to just see them smiling at each other as they were like saving people's lives like these guys Yeah, they're way better than our protagonists. Oh, yeah Way better yeah, like And Lamar was even like trying to um even you know provide at least some understanding for where walker was getting frustrated Like you'd have conversations and they'd have little bits of banter They have their history and then he died saving him like there was yeah What can you do? There is no reason to dislike Lamar at all Like there's nothing Lamar is just great.  He's there. He saves his life And as has been established he is like 100 correct and in the heat of battle walker makes the right decision to save the people As he would yeah, that's that's who he is But instead we got the Figure that's where the season was going.   Why would the super? I actually have to be now. Oh my god I think people unironically think that what um urskine was saying to steve is like that is the scientific way that the serum works As opposed to a more metaphorical Saying about the nature of power The serum doesn't make you insane and it doesn't make you a better or worse person It's the idea of how do you respond to being imbued with that much power That's what it's about with the serum. It's not like the serum makes you insane And how come carly isn't how come how come she's totally fine even though she took the serum Well, I guess that's what he's arguing right is the herics insanity is blowing people up their insanity is being in the flags I don't think he is. I don't think he is. I don't even know that he appreciates I didn't well. I didn't get the impression from the show whatsoever that the serum makes you insane I'm pretty sure the doctor was explicit. He was like there was no like repercussions. There was no side effects. It was pure No, but the problem is that people refer to the urskine quote about good It makes good better and bad worse where but again, they're just reading it as if that's like the scientific method For how the serum works rather than like actually make as if yeah, basically, which is what the whole point of that is Um, she's clearly insane for me. Yeah, I know that but what I'm saying is I don't know that the show is acknowledging Yeah, yeah, the serum She was insane before the serum clearly. Yeah. Yeah She's nuts. Um, and if you remember her team when she blows people up are like, whoa Meaning, yeah, they think even though they have the serum that what she's doing is Too much as if it's more part of here than it is the it's not the serum at all.  So it's yeah, let's drop that The other being a character who was never wrong That's what kind of holds zemo back from being like a good guy You know it's obviously his methods, but That his view on them is it was well established and why he thinks that But his ability to I guess Well, it it's going on its own tangent, but But we'll probably get there. I don't know if he's got extra Someone will have something on zemo before we end tonight.  Thanks to the super serum making him worse I mean the end it does that's not how it works. Why what?  He killed an enemy combatant with his weapon Why is everyone so weird about this Like what do you think like what was he supposed to do? Well, I've seen so many conversations about this but like he was supposed to arrest him and it's like How like like he doesn't have like like you need special cuffs for super soldiers Do you just hope that he stops attacking stops being a threat this guy kept running away?   Yeah Yeah, the thing that really like like puzzles me I guess about this is that uh Well, we've already been over how much other characters have done things that are very very similar So it's like again the whole manipulation thing, but at the same time, uh, if I guess it's like down to a What we talked about if it was seen in real life if it was seen seen on like a live leak video It's like judge him morally, uh, you know thumb up thumb down or thumb in the middle and I guess like even Just just at the core it's be like Looks like he kind of did what he felt he had to do and it's a really stressful environment Is it the most optimal? It's like he threw a plastic chair at him.  No joke.  Yeah.  We're gonna make a weapon for you. What do you want? So as like well, if it's a weapon is a shoot state is in shield is Not ideal for a weapon. It's always been silly. We've just sort of Well, it's symbolically cool, right? That yeah, it's Captain America has a shield That's his weapon because he's like defensive almost on a yeah And in a sense you go along with it. He throws it. It bounces off. It comes back. He catches it comes back. Okay.  Nah It's like, okay Someone said in the chat that it's morally gray at worst is like yeah, pretty much pretty much at worst. It's morally gray. Yeah Again, this is this was hard For someone to have to do and if I was able to speak to him after it I just want to get his his account for why he made the decisions he made and then I don't see much more happening post that Yeah, they they do they do walker dirty in this show totally um I was talking to blame the uh the the lad we had on for the the boys breakdown. Yeah, he was saying that um With uh walker with a situation like this nine times out of ten He wouldn't have been like given any kind of punishment close to what we see in the show The only way it would happen if it was like hyper politically motivated and that they needed to make some kind of a A statement or whatever about Sitting things sitting different and I was like so could could you see what happens in this apply? He's like the the way they do it in this doesn't even make sense. Apparently the the sort of uh punishments he gets would never be given without also having a prison sentence Like the that's how harsh they are um, right And it's almost like what do you expect what do you expect him walker to do? Why did you send him there or why why would he be there at all? That's the thing That's why I changed it. Yeah. Yeah, they but that doesn't make any sense either But going by the insane logic of this shockingly poorly written show like what aren't bucky and Falcon there to do the same thing Like what are they there to do it stop them but not hurt them? And well, it's a fracking maybe right.  They have to get special ones Yeah, what are your means for transporting these people back to prison?  That's all you need to know It's written by a 12 year old who wants to give a message And then there's the aspect of people say that you shouldn't do that someone who surrendered which uh I don't know that in every case that would be considered surrender Uh, feeling of blame says that uh, he wouldn't consider what the guy did here a surrender um More so he's he's uh, preparing for a what would be incoming combat Well, also, yeah, I mean that he's not the one who ended the life of lamar.  It's very complicated.  And I've seen people be like, oh well, he must have military court of some kind. Yeah, but military court We're rules. Mm. I feel like in military courts because I don't know as much about military courts But like I imagine that you would have a right to actually present your case Surely sounds very american, you know, it would be weird if you couldn't Um And yeah, the most I've seen people say is like he probably gave his testimony before they would just say He can't repeat it. It's like well, then why would he be so obsessed with giving it if it's already been given that would be weird It's insane. Yeah, this doesn't make any sense. None of this works And you would think that an insane amount of people would be super supportive of him Because he killed the terrorist a murderous terrorist in a combat zone like I Like I it's it's literally just that there's blood on the shield and the music is like Like we could have done this with a lot of falcon and caps kills Oh, yeah, imagine doing it with camp when he goes into Lagos and crushes those dudes and Hits them so hard with the shield that they are all the time Lots of people all the time literally people who are not even engaged in combat who are human He's a super soldier and he decides well, you're out because you're on the enemy team Which seems to be okay with everybody else, but not anymore No, it's it feels really weird what's happened to the mcu. They used to just be like, yeah, no, they kill those guys It's all right. And now it's like this weird transition. It's like no Agatha.  No, that's not. What's it going to be in the next thing? And if they do die, they're really kind of heroes. It's so weird how like It's not it's not that It is so it is so morally nonsensical. It is it really is. Yeah They didn't do it out of anger Is that it what so what does that change really?  Nope. Whether or not he was angry. They're terrorists How would you not be angry?  It's like what is the opening of winter soldiers like french? They say that they live french mercenaries and they're taking a boat got hostages. Yeah from shield Of course, you'll be emotionally invested in that. You're like these people who take are taking hostages.   Because if if chafferolas for example was here and he said this is why he thinks walker's a horrible person And he hates him. I'd be like man Who do you like in the mcu? And I would love him to mention any of them, right? But the one I think I really wanted to mention is like oh well steve. He's one of my favorites And I'd be like oof steve's much worse talk about steve. Yeah, not even close Yeah, remember that time when steve dragged that dude on the ground for 10 seconds Why do you always reference that one go for that? Yeah, that's not even bad at all. Yeah Triscillian is the killer argument Oh, yeah, it's true.  Okay Yeah, triscillian. You're right. Yeah, and so that is like Wait, so now we're shifting to intention not like the damage they have dealt which is like all what civil war is about It's like sometimes your attention is not going to matter if you're killing people.  Yeah Like a vengeance kill on the prisoner. It's like, yeah, I would be much more on board But this one is um That's as someone said at worst morally gray Was wild and I didn't know how they could top that. Well, they didn't John walker just decides in the final episode that he is gonna be a good guy. He was never a bad guy He's not cute. He's never a bad guy You see person doing wonderful amazing things being literally heroic for multiple episodes over and over and over every time And you say you hate him. How does he so reconcile this with episode two with all the good things he did?  There's just dialogue. I don't like that They give him there's something that matches his character at all, but hey Um, even that being the worst thing that he does like well, that's not so bad It's not so bad at all Um, someone mentioned it earlier in chat someone said uh the shaft forless guy.  That was like the first meme of 2020, right? Yeah, it was something like that. Yeah uh, yeah the um Uh, she she's isn't it like he's like a really friendly worker and she's just shitting over him. Yeah That's the one. It's this one here. Let me show you Yeah this one Is a very interesting self-own. Yeah. No, that's not it Well, that's a new guy. No, that's not it. That is new. Yes, it is. That's not no It is not I will I will literally says new guy rags No, that's someone change the dialogue in the last panel Oh No, no, so yeah, but this is making fun of her is is the point, right? Yes. Sorry. Yeah.    I forgot about this. This is about PewDiePie, wouldn't it? Because PewDiePie got robbed and people were like, well, who cares? He's rich. It's like wow Hey, would you like it if you were robbed? Oh, wow, I can tell you're gonna be the kind of co-worker because we become friends What really held though? It's like, oh The one with the dog What's so great about this meme is that it there it spawned even any even more memes Yeah, it's such such an incredible odd self-own by this psycho artist Everyone deserves empathy Well, that's the I see why the person in chat. I forget your name.    I was watching it like curiously and I I was just watching it as you were speaking and I didn't realize it was climbing On to the fan. I was just looking at it and that it went in it was I was like, oh Wait, how does wait? What kind of it climbed into that like the blades?    I bet like the sound of it hitting I meant like the physical sound Of a spider body hitting these rapidly spinning blades Where the whole spider was large enough to I was like damn Yeah, I don't think it was small. That's why I was distracted by it while you were talking I was like, oh my god, that's buddha. Wow. That's I rip spidey, bro. Yeah Spider See that's it represents man's effect on society having this artificial wind and it kills nature The f is like it's kind of f f is one of the most that is a long enduring meme. It's crazy. Yeah Advanced warfare.   I don't know but I really enjoyed that game's multiplayer because it was so silly Oh, man, like I heard a lot of people really hated it, but I really enjoyed that I like zipping around and jumping into the air and I quite liked it so much because it wasn't anything like a call of duty game So that's why I kind of liked it That's true But the problem that I have with that is that it becomes very difficult to know where to look like It becomes totally unpredictable where you're going to get shot from which means that the maps kind of don't even matter anymore Anyone can be anywhere at any time And so it was very much a I wouldn't call it balanced at all Definitely not because they did the whole Maybe they did this before I don't know but a weapon will have a Like like there is a base weapon And then there will be special versions of it with different stats And you would very clearly see Obvious correct gun decisions that everybody would make over and over all the time So Like they the smg where it has slightly less this but it just has better damage or something like that And it's just clearly the better option and everybody would use it Yeah, but that's me the case in every call of duty. That's like one weapon that's just Insanely good I liked it, but it was definitely a guilty pleasure where I think I put like 100 hours into it Which is a lot for a cod game for me I think I put some like 20 hours into it, which is pretty low compared to what I put into the ones before it Yeah, I'm like it definitely wasn't good, but I enjoyed it. It had this just silly arcadey kind of Quality to it. That's true But I mean, I feel like Titanfall was a better example because like it has adventure ability, but it's bound Yeah, yeah, I'm like one of the best first-person shooters of like the last undoubtedly.  Curiously. Go get it. Go play it. Go get it. I didn't actually check if that was true I'm assuming it's true. They wouldn't have said it otherwise, right? Yeah, uh, let me that's that's uh It had like 16,000 people playing I heard about that. God damn. I need to boot it up and play it again because I haven't been able to play Titanfall 2 is just not enough people But if there are that many people playing god damn So just so that we're um Clear even if you don't have any interest in the multiplayer the single player is insanely good You should buy it. Even if you just want to play the single player There you go, but the multiplayer is awesome. Well, the multiplayer is really great too. Yes Uh, it's very fun very fast-paced very exciting very engaging Um, it's too good for this world. Evidently. It's better than apex legends as far as I'm concerned I uh, I want Titanfall 3. I would have Apex I like apex a lot. I have like 1600 hours of apex legends. Yeah, I wish we got I I would have preferred Titanfall 3. Yes apex is a nice nice thing over there. It's good, but Uh, yeah, Titanfall to Titanfall 2 and Titanfall. Hopefully we'll get a Titanfall 3. Hopefully I hope so Oh, man, I don't know who knows who knows Um, I don't know if you guys are the same thing on your phone Where you get like random articles on your like push notifications I'm not sure exactly where they come from, but I find them mostly chill. They're fine Some of them are like, I'm just like, I'm not really interested in that But they probably learns what I'm interested in and so most of it's media related But today I just like tilt my phone for a second because I heard a noise. It was like Gal Gadot has turned 36 What okay I'm I'm proud of her again. That's all right. Yeah. Why did you tell me that? Thank you so much God the world is weird. Anyway back to how Walker is a horrible person, I guess Yeah, I mean a good guy literally he drops his shield and starts helping people and he doesn't seem mad Yeah slightest that sam is the new captain america. Why would he be? Like he's just happy that people were saved. He's yeah, he seems to be a really stand-up guy That's why we were so worried when the decision was you know being made in the show And we were all tensed up and our assholes were clenched and we were super worried and gripping the desk Like this show's written so bad that we it could feasibly be in this show. It was written that he Went after carly even though that would not at all match his character It's it's bizarre because like I was almost picturing we were watching it It's like oh, he's gonna go fight here then the car will fall off and then falcon can save it, right? That's that's that's the other show they could have made And then he would have realized like I was wrong.  They threw the shield down to get both arms on the on the truck Yes Right.  Mm-hmm, right Captain america was just another thing that he was doing in that he got He was still him and he was a hero before that Happens the weird thing is they redeemed him in the exact same way. I wanted prince charming to be redeemed and trek the third Um Sorry that didn't happen I guess I'm sorry that john walker was treated like prince charming from trek the third residence jimbo I okay Please put yeah, you put the help. Yep. How could I know? Jesus christ chat So chat if any of you have any aspirations of becoming a big youtuber that covers media I don't care who you are You can do it. You can do it feasible that you can do it because look at the people who are big youtubers talking about media It's it doesn't have anything to do with talent It doesn't have anything to do with actual skill I thought what an incredible insightful thing in the same way it's prince charming from trek the third When you hear that line in 11 months from now, you're gonna be like, oh my god. I remember someone said that That's a thing somebody said Wow We're halfway through Quacken crazy coincidence jimbo. See I wouldn't know I don't know. It's not a coincidence. I don't know what he means. Those are two unrelated things And the most in a way two things can that's not a coincidence They're unrelated and you two completely related things Is he suggesting that the relation is the fact that he watched them and felt this way? So for example, he watches records and goes I want x to happen and he sees another show where x happens And he's like what a coincidence That's not a coincidence though. I mean it's not a meaningful coincidence.  All right Jay didn't need to be redeemed. He needs to be say he needs to be rescued from this show He's too good for this show.  It was a waste of time Just fill a I think the shitty dialogue.   That's the tragedy. That's a john walker level tragedy Oh, there's so many people playing.  They're all gonna be upset Oh, you know, that's a good idea. You know what? I'll put that down in my notes I'm busy over there. Come on guys. Fuck, but yeah, all right. Let's press on. Does he play inside? Let's press on Titanfall 2 Did john walker coming to terms with the fact that he didn't deserve to be captain america? No, he did. No, he did He literally did if right? There is nobody on earth that earned it more than him. Uh, sorry, and this isn't my opinion This is literally like what they've done in the show. They made him a triple winner They made him one of the peak physical like an intellectual human beings on earth He proved that even though he wants to take revenge for like one of his friends Or even you could argue it's avenging the friend who died to save his life And instead he chose to save some innocent people and then also he executed a terrorist in in battle Like I don't yeah, he's captain america. I'm sorry.  I suppose like a lot of things probably are Just because you have opinions doesn't mean you should make them public, but Oh, well as people put it out. He was almost pretty much as good as cap without the serum like yeah Yeah, and someone said he jumped on four grenades and none of them would does I don't know It's it was silly to make him hate three medal of honor winner because like essentially almost impossible In terms of what you would have to have done as a human being to have gotten that However, that's what he has which means that tells us a lot about who he is and what he's done.  What are you talking about?  So like yeah, I don't really have a problem with him fighting back Like if this is a claim of like see how unlikable he is attacking our protagonists I'd be like are you five like seriously?  Yeah Yeah As far as we want to go with that one They honestly made him too unlikable for his own good if the plan was to redeem him It would have made so much more narrative and thematic sense if he was the one to kill carly Yeah, I can agree with that Yeah, it would he deserves it.  Yes It makes sense that the hero gets to do heroic things.  He thought the show was going to have him killing her and that it would show that he's a psycho who needs to be stopped Well, he he did add the qualifier that what makes him insane the important part is the serum The serum would be what makes more convincing not the act of killing her just for clarification At least that's what I got from him from being as best faith as possible So uh, theoretically we could I think from his perspective we could have had walker kill her And not be insane. I think he's suggesting that would be a redemption form But again doesn't need redemption and I think yeah him saving all of the people in the in the armored truck I don't know. That was pretty legendary as a move just saying Yeah, um He came there to get carly, but he chose to say yeah, it's pretty Pretty clear But I think the point he's trying to make is that this would be like villainous for him almost but It's hard hard to nail it down because hard to tell with this is such scattered thoughts It's no repercussions from sam for this despite how big of a deal he makes out of carly's death They really botched both walker and charon's characters and it they know Everybody except for walker and the Lamar.    You don't want to have Because you can't speak if you're flying through the air it shows that but that's not how Universe works you'd have to be yelling and screaming and they probably wouldn't hear it So you need to have a mask on all certainly you have to have a mask on if you go too high Talk about pressurization and stuff, yeah But this is just So like so the rocketeer had a better outfit Yeah, uh, I'd say a lot of a lot of people have better outfits I I'll go as far as saying this one was shit and I was a little embarrassed when I saw it I just I saw a lot of people saying are still comic accurate and I was like, all right I don't know. All right.  Yeah, the blood doesn't exist Wonderful it drags down. What's otherwise a decent enough finale. I actually like Not and I like how it still felt applicable to the real world despite the Wow Talk about it's attached. This Is the kind of guy who could put a jock strap on backwards How do you say any of this? He's like a broken crayon. Like how did you get to this point? You're supposed to be really simplistic It's actually like a it's it's like a kindergartner Is is talking that's what this speech is.  It's actually terrible It's so awful It's so And not even going into how like preachy it is and insulting it as to anyone who has a brain Which is why the chafferless likes it But just talking about the context of it within the show And it was why are we all here? Oh, yeah Because crazy evil terrorists wanted to burn a bunch of people alive so that they could get something They want that doesn't make any sense and that we we should be immensely against Yeah, but It's like the the foundation of the argument from him is so I don't know how any of this works and that's You know what that's a that's a plus because I just don't get it And the guy's left it baffled like That of what you said is useful I don't know if you knew this but I can't use anything Jeffers gonna comment on that pig in the background. Oh, hopefully would that not be dude Imagine the kind of name he has for politicians because they're the worst or senators and and uh Anybody of any political ranking is like, oh Disgusting dink and chat is right the speech was the writer putting his character on a soapbox with a megaphone Just to tell the audience the message. Yes.  What's so funny is the message is pathetic It's do better Useless Thanks. We'll all do better now do better guys I don't know anything But do better So when did So when Wakanda made him the suit did Wakanda make the suit knowing he'd be captain america Um, I guess uh, I can't remember if we discussed it But yeah, that's fucking hilarious because Wakanda do not like like any authority other than their own They don't share their technology at least not to this degree, right? I'm willing to believe that T'Challa's made efforts to try and like have Wakanda help the world But the idea that they make this fucking super suit For a person is like do they trust falcons like I guess they do I guess so Basically kill them earlier, but then it okay You have to believe as well that either falcon or the Wakandans designed this it wasn't it wasn't sorry Either either bucky or uh, the Wakanda's did falcon didn't have any You know say yeah Like what do you think he needs like this is It's like imagine being bucky and you get to turn in this one favor and you're like man He's gonna love this.  This is so embarrassing. Oh bucky designed this and then falcon's like Oh, man a little bit. Do you mind if I make a few changes though?  I was like, haha.  He's like Oh That's great, man. I love it.   It's like, yeah, but it's meant for black guys It's okay. It's like I need to see that because all black people are on the same side I mean, well to be fair I think that this show is really like it actually thinks that and the people who write this and like it They think that if you're of a certain skin color, you've already been genetically sorted into the team that you need to be on so Well, that's that's a rationalizer, right? The Wakandans were like Make a suit.  You know The one who sold our ancestors into slavery. I don't think so We don't like we don't talk about that Well, Wakanda is specifically funny about that because they didn't help anybody. They just watched it Yeah During all the slave trading and the tribal wars and the yeah, they in case there's any confusion all the starving Black man. That's terrible by the way. I don't know if we need to be mentioned with that.  So you're like Yeah, you can man better world building then. Oh my god I was gonna say the benefit you have is they can spread out But then they can also have devices to keep secretives. They want to leave the surface dwellers to themselves sort of thing Yeah, Wakandans. I got nothing. It's like they stopped expanding after the five tribes were taken over. It's like why It's like well the land wasn't there. It's like what do you mean? It would have been so much empty land They would have expanded anybody would it's like no that's colonize a talk Remember I got called a British like my britishness is getting to me when I was the same It would be british of you to want to like put another house next to your current house. You're like, okay all right You british it's not like human beings who originated from africa expanded across the entire planet Africa in the middle east I'm pretty sure isn't the general assumption that east africa is where human beings originated from Like the middle east is where civilization originated from like once, you know, the the uh, the neolithic Yes, it looks like humans first evolved in africa and much of human evolution and crime I thought oh, I thought that was just known. I thought everybody knew that Well, I didn't know if it was there or like the middle east area I just didn't know the middle east is where mainly um where like the the agricultural revolution happened That was like where the fresh yeah, that's probably where the civilization's popped up Yeah, that's right. I was thinking super important area. Someone's had by the way Why is so much of his head exposed? It's like, I think the war card does want him dead So we can stab him We will leave the weakest point his brain right on off or they just gotta shoot him right Seriously, that would be my first question if I was given this suit Oh dude, is there like a head piece that comes with it that I have to attach or something?   I'm not gonna lie I We should see the rockets here. I can't help but just think about The rockets here and how it's just fun. Let me pull up the suit from that and how it's just it looks It looks really goofy, but it's just better Let me get a good picture of it. I'm sure we'll get into it The list for all this happening was the big purple man collecting magic rocks It's cool to see the mcu taking in insane cosmic events like half the universe dying and coming back and showing us Oh my god Man oh fuck Showing us the repercussions by having basically barely addressing it at all and then the end is oh The borders are staying as they are and everybody's cool with that like that's the end of this Yeah, they do not want to commit to that There is they're not An idea of how we like take this sort of stuff when in Wanda vision They had one scene showing the chaos of people coming back in a hospital I was like, oh my god, could it be? We're finally going to address it the scene ends and you're like, I cannot wait for them to finally never again Yeah Just like the bucky flashback like oh, we well we you know, we've covered it now And now it's up to the audience to invent a whole bunch of shit that we never actually did It's like they actually go in depth to bucky's deep-seated PTSD and brainwashing and they explore it in detail in Wakanda, by the way They show what happened in Wakanda in the time we haven't seen him the connection he makes with the um I forget a name crazy Wakanda number one or two. I guess uh I or wasn't that the what's the first? No idea.  Oh god, that would have been so much worse Does that mean that Wakanda is basically those people from batwoman with the desert rose Also, I feel like there were yeah, I mean there I because it extends past medicine with Wakanda Uh, rock tea looks cool. I reckon. Yeah, it looks kind of steam punk It yeah, it yeah, it's because it takes place in the late 30s. I think is that steampunk or diesel punk? Uh, I think it's diesel punk. I think that's what this is. Yeah With like a lot of art deco influence It's it's neat. I really like it that looks cool I uh, I remember really liking it. Um, it takes place in 1938 yeah, so late thirties I don't watch this movie. It's good. Yeah. I well, I don't know if it's good, but it's very enjoyable I but I think there's definitely good stuff in it But yeah, I'd love to see the rocketeer again Anyway Yeah, like half the universe dying and coming back and showing us what its repercussions would be for ordinary people When sam No, no, it only uses it so that a black woman can't get a loan Well, accurately, it's he can't get it right falcon because um, if oh, yeah, they wouldn't give it to falcon either Because falcon could just get the loan and give her the money Oh god, it's so stupid, right?   Yeah, joe johnston Oh joseph egleston johnston the second which is his full name, but yeah, that's him He did them both Wait, when you say oh I guess he didn't yeah, because the russos would have taken over after it man, I guess Yes, oh, so oh, we also made drastic pop three apparently. Well ah well You know you can't win them all guys. Well, we can't all be john walker Yes That's interesting coincidence Yes Um, so yeah saying this was a great way to look into the effects of the blip. Nope Just just no this makes it seem silly This makes it seem like the the blip is not being treated realistically at all if they were doing that they'd say All right, so it shows you don't have any income for x years and like oh, yeah I was part of the blip and like okay Can you show me the card that you know just proves that you were blipped so that we know how to you know that's done Oh, okay, so you were blipped.   They just give you money. This is none of this is handled properly It's all very confusing because uh, obviously the bank wouldn't have operated this way It shows like a really weird lack of knowledge on their part but then also that falcons shouldn't be in this position in the first place and then um The world itself like like banks don't just Well, you kind of just yeah, you went into it like they don't just give you money It's a lot more complicated than that You actually have to prove a lot of different things because if it did just give it to everybody They'd be fucking bankrupt Those are there's no reason they shouldn't are you insane? No reason banks shouldn't give people money What? Um I hope that's not what I hope I don't someone said that in chat I don't know if they're referring to the bank thing. Hopefully not There's a lot of reasons a lot of people think that money is just a magical thing that people Who have a lot of it can just give away to people who don't have it The funny thing is we really need it to mean something otherwise things will get real bad There's a couple of events in history that involve making money meaningless Yeah, yeah, anyway, yeah, so that's why it's called a loan and not just a gift Is what I mean all of it's non-functional and it's it's like a really shitty writer being like look banks are stressed And now that's causing stress for other people I can imagine yeah, if you're a big bank and like imagine what the good because pretty much all banks will be under fdic and if you have half the people that so As far as I'm aware after the this happened after the the black plague Where you lost a lot of people but the amount of money in the world stayed the same So that does a lot with like value of money and stuff like that So take that and exploderate it to level 9 000 Where the same amount of money exists Half the people on the world disappear Now that's where I'm bringing Hoffman back Yeah, and how to govern how to how to There's I can believe that the world would still remain functional But you got to show that to me You got to show it because there's a lot of work that you got to do But they just don't they they it's almost like they bring it up whenever it just might be convenient You know and then they say see we didn't forget about it and then it's like this guy like see they're they didn't forget about it slightly tangential Thing to think about in relation to how that things get affected, but like I'm assuming this might be I can't if we've discussed before if it's in freeze script as well but If the avengers had gone to whatever governments were in place Before they unsnapped and said we're going to do this the government would be like Yeah, so we're going to need months to prepare for this if not more. Yeah um, yeah, I I would I wouldn't be surprised if after the blip governments pretty much Yeah, local governments would probably take Control at least temporarily like there would be a lot more focus on local governments instead of federal ones mm-hmm I think there would probably be big shake-ups in terms of It's too much to even really get into like the the amount of implications is insane And then to have all that happen and then five years later Maybe you're starting to get back to you know some level of decent work ability And then they all just reappear again and you're like, are you fucking kidding me? We just did all that work and If They They are not ready to deal with the implications.  Do they know what state are they gonna be in like how do we start like hugging the wall?   They're not going to say Oh, you were bliped for five years. So we're not going to give you any money They'd be like, okay. What was your history before the blip and then they would probably measure Like the change in the economy. So yeah, you did well before the blip, but now, you know, that's that's done What's looking at that's that's done So they'd measure that up It's probably a complicated process that they'd use because there's a lot of money on the line and they can't just give money away for free especially now So and that's the super interesting thing about the blip if someone let's say a full family was blipped out of their house and someone then Lives in it and makes a family over four years and then at the fourth year says to the bank Like can we now officially own this like no one's coming back? I'm like, yeah, okay And then the people come back. It's like what happens now I'd like to explore that but this show Oddly says do better It's like, okay It's like at the end of uh Kong skull island when the guy goes back after being trapped on the island and his wife has a husband Do better Yeah, that's what he should have said He's when he was dead.    All right in this demonization of them. Well, it's it's like pigs, right? Just like there's just pigs. There's only bad people cops. Rival. I mean bank banks banks are Thanks Yeah, thanks. Let's start calling them banks. I think banks are yeah useful uh as a As a like thing that there is there's such a great bad guy though Oh, the well the problem well well well a lot of banks do unethical things Sure, absolutely like as banks fundamentally are a pretty useful institution But the problem is that there are a lot of banks who do you know, like using your money to fund fossil fuels Like that's that's not such a fun one But like the utility of banks and loans and stuff is super useful But this show is just banks are bad Well, it's very reductive simplistic takes on uh on really complex things Well, and he's celebrating that Like he's like nice.  It's like That's it It doesn't matter about your fuels friggie. Uh, all right We've got to be moving out of fossil fuels eventually.    I concluded all of the reverse takes. How did this happen? Someone said do they mention why they don't just go to another bank? They just say that it's all the same everywhere Yeah, she he says like we'll try every bank and she's like why are you so obsessed trying to make this work?     Okay, so when walker picked up the one vile It was actually two. We just didn't quite see the other one. He popped together and when he was oh, yeah They're both super soldiers. He stabbed lamar with with the syringe That's why it's a delayed reaction because he was kind of dead But it's working its way through his body and he's he's on he's in the morgue right now But he's about to go He's gonna be alive and well and those two are gonna be Lamar is eris Yes I don't care that it's from dc put him in it just make a portal that takes you to the dc universe Put him in it.  It was they told us it was supposed to be joda hex. That's supposed to be who it was Jonah hex Oh my goodness To see a witch like um, wanda No, he's probably a wizzy. He has hexes or maybe a sorcerer or a warlock or a mage They're all different remember Yep necromancer Necromancer, yeah, oh it makes that makes more sense because lazarus pit necromancy Yeah, get away from my necromancy pool my juice of zombiness Yeah, you're working together though.   He's a good person. He deserves better from this world I guess amazing. I want more john walker So This is something I find interesting about the process of making a review I've been over it before um, and I know that there's like the two modes I think there's there's obviously space in between but like seems to me there's two modes a lot of people will say I want to write mine Without influence from like other people's perspectives to get mine solid and then I wouldn't mind checking out other people's opinions See what see what happened. I'm the reverse mode where I'm like, I want to write mine And then I want to check out what everyone else was thinking see what uh, I maybe didn't pick up or see how people have interpreted this like beyond my own pov and um Thing is I find that the the the mode I go with typically leads you to a script That's a little bit more aware of of the meta rather than simply your own perspective And it can also lead you to get a bit more on your own perspective Because say for example, I look at reviews I've seen the show and all of them say this all of them say like how the fuck would anyone like walker?  I'd be like well, I'm gonna add to my script now But I think it's really odd that everybody hates this guy when and then I'd have a sequence explaining exactly what I think He did that makes him an upstanding Citizen and I just be like, yeah So I think people are a little bit biased on this one They're not really looking at the events as that's how they happen and maybe that wouldn't