Hey everyone and welcome to the live stream today. We're going to be talking more about the the new firmware beta that was released by Road this week. I've already put a video out about this But yeah had quite a few questions and comments and things like that coming back So I thought might as well dedicate another live stream to it and just have a bit of a general geek out really So love to hear your feedback if you've been using the the beta so far and if you've Used any of the features or indeed encountered any issues. There's a couple of things that I've noticed But that is obviously the point of beta firmware is to find out these little things So I'll be talking about that as well And so yeah, let's just get straight on into it. Shall we but first of all, I do have to say hey Bicky great to see you always love seeing the pictures of your Your setup never gets tired. That doesn't have my always feel a little bit inadequate with my two stream decks Hey dragon great to see you here as well Haven't haven't seen you around the block for a while. So great to see you in here Hope all is doing well for you So let's start talking straight way shall we then about this new firmware update the links by the way to download this if you Haven't seen it already are in the description to get on to the firmware beta program with road There's no sort of barrier to entry You just literally go to the the website that is linked down below and then you can just go and apply to it Download the firmware and it is obviously beta as I say so there may be some issues with it That is the point of beaters you will find instructions though on the road website as to how to Go back to a previous version if you're finding there's anything that's stopping you from doing what you need to do Hey, Steve great see you in here as well. Fantastic to see you on the live stream Good luck with the beta update. It's pretty painless really It's a pretty swift process and then you'll get access to all of the things that I'm going to be talking about today So the main thing that was added in this version then was this advanced audio routing or also Should I say a sort of building on the audio routing that we had in the previous firmware update? And what I'm talking about there is if I go into this top-down shot then It's in this outputs and then the routing just here Now the way that this work before was we just had the the options for Basically the three USB channels and the Bluetooth And we could choose between whether those were going to be mixed minus or not and just to Reiterate again for those that may be not so sure what makes minus is that is where you've got multiple different things coming in on all these Different channels. So you've got your mic. You've got the USB You've got various of the different inputs coming into the to the Rocaster Then if you're using the Rocaster with communication apps What you don't want is the thing that is coming in from that particular app to be going back out to it So what I mean by that is if you're using your Rocaster with zoom for example, and you've got the the in zoom You've got your mic set to the Rocaster And you've got the speaker set to Rocaster as well Then if you didn't use mix minus then the people from zoom would be coming through into the Rocaster Into the mix and then we'll be feeding straight back into zoom again through the mic input And so what that would mean is that they would then hear themselves back slightly delayed And this is known as slap back and so mix minus basically takes all of the inputs that are coming in Through all of the channels and then it removes the one from the that specific channel So it's not being fed back to it. So it means that it's basically feeding everything back through to in this case zoom except for the the feed that's coming in from zoom so it is Minising that track from the mix going back to zoom. So that's what mix minus is so in a previous firmware update They turned on the mix minus for the USB Bluetooth channels so the three USB in the Bluetooth channel so we had that but they also gave us this thing called the custom mix Which basically enabled us to in fact it looked pretty much just like this main mix mix minus and custom And what custom allowed us to do was basically just decide Exactly which tracks we wanted to be going or which channels I should say we wanted to be going down to this channel So in this case Bluetooth before if you recall then with custom you could choose which channels to include in The mix for that particular channel Well, what they've done now is they've taken this a step further because basically they've opened up as you can see The custom mix to all of the channels now and by that the all of these sort of listening I suppose channels So we've got all of the four Headphones so that is these four here and they've got all got obviously a jack socket on the back for these four channels We've also got the monitor so that is where you've got external monitors plugged into the speaker ports on the back You've got the left and right speaker port and the recording so we can also control what is actually being recorded versus what is These to the device rather as opposed to what is going out to all of these channels And then we've got those four channels as we had before But they've taken it a step further because what we actually have is if I come into one that's not gonna affect what we're doing Yeah, this one In the custom mix now instead of just having basically a toggle to decide whether something is going into the mix or not we can now adjust these levels independently and So I'm making this live stream as I say because I had a number of questions that came up before And one of the questions was specifically around this and to maybe go into a bit more depth in terms of Explaining how these all work So if you can see at the moment in fact what I shall do is I'll just take off some of these things that I've got on at The moment I'll just pop those down And just make this a little bit simpler to to understand hopefully Let me just come out here for a second There you go. Can you tell I'm really prepared I'm just gonna do this just so that we don't have any of these sort of listening commands switched on at all In fact, they have just seen notice something that even though I'm listening to that channel. This seems like a beta thing. I'm not I'm still hearing other channels as well, which shouldn't happen. So that is a beta bug that I need to file Anyway, let me come back into here outputs routing. There we go. We're back to where we were So if I come into this USB channel, what you can see here is effectively on the the screen here We've got something that looks like the position of these faders as they are at the moment In fact, what I could do if I just come into here a minute I'm just trying to make this as simple as possible. So if I come into faders at what I'll do is I'll just actually Delete this from here Put none on there And I'll put none on that one as well So there we go now we've just got it nice and simple with just the six faders So this relates to these six faders here. Sorry for that to just thought I'd make this as I say simple as possible So now you can see that we've got six faders and those six images there Relate to the six faders down here and what you can see is that as I'm moving these up and down So if I move this one down, you can see how it is moving up and down on here as well So this is showing the position of the physical faders on the device But what we can actually do is this is showing where these are, you know for everything at the moment But what we can actually do is we can set a different level for this on a channel by channel basis So at the moment, we're looking at the USB secondary channel This is where everything is we've got custom selected, but we haven't changed anything yet But what I can do is I can come into this particular channel and if I just zoom in a little bit So make it easier to see I'm going to tap on this channel And now you can see that the the sort of fader has been highlighted green That means that that is the sort of active fader that we're going to be adjusting and Then if I dial down with this dial, you can see that I am moving the position of that fader Now what that's going to mean is that this is adjusting the effective level For that channel. So now what you have to think is that you know for all intents and purposes on the USB 2 secondary It is as if the fader is actually down here. So we've changed the level, but it's only changed it for that particular fader So if it was changing it for everything, you would hear the the the audio going down or if I change my mic for example, I can turn the fader down here and For the secondary channel it has got my mic now a lot lower But obviously you are still hearing my mic perfectly. Well, you're hearing it exactly the same as before If I was to come into the the primary channel for a second Because that is the one that you're hearing right now What you'll notice is if I click on the main mic if I turn the main mic down Then this is actually turning it down for you So you've now heard that my volume has gone down even though I haven't touched the fader here So we're changing the the sort of faders on a channel by channel basis now Why is that something that you might want to do? Well, for example, if you are streaming You know gamers often stream listening to music where they don't want the music to go out in the stream Or maybe they want the gameplay to be at a higher level or maybe they want to have a discord running in the background And they want to change the level of that, you know, the discord feed coming through into the main mix These are various different cases where you might want different levels going into one thing versus another For example my podcast as well when I live stream my podcast and I go in after the fact And I actually sort of restart the the intro music and the outro music I put it in a different place because when I'm actually starting the podcast as a live stream I hit the the music when I'm starting to stream But then it takes a while to propagate to go to LinkedIn and then it also goes to Amazon And so after the fact I go in and chop off the beginning and chop off the end and then I kind of reset the music So what I may want to do is then have it so that although that audio is going out into the live stream I maybe don't want to just include it in the recording all together and I can just remove it So I would be able to set a different level for that that audio track for example in here Now there's a couple of different ways that we can use this so at the moment you'll see that We're back to this USB to channel. I've set a relative level here So we've got that little white marker there showing that although the fader is physically up here That's the top level The audio that is going out onto the this through this track is actually significantly lower But because they've got this sort of blue bar between them that is signifying that they are still linked And in fact this little icon here that looks like a link very much So it is also another reason that another way that is displaying that but what that's going to mean is that as I move this fader In fact, let me take this one that's not going to affect your audio What you'll see is that the physical fader position is going up But also it is dragging up this fader going out onto the secondary USB So although we've got a different level on that particular track going out onto the USB to also the secondary USB channel They are still actually linked so when I move the physical fader It is still moving the fader on that channel now obviously it's going to be relative So it is still going to be a lower volume and actually what will happen is if I move this fader all the way down to the bottom You'll see that now effectively because we've got that sort of gap between them although the fader here is not quite at the bottom On here it is actually already zero so effectively the the audio going to the USB secondary channel here is zero and as I move this fader down It's basically just going to close this gap up now until this one goes down to zero as well Conversely if I was to put the the relative Relative fader position above where it is in reality on the physical fader You would have the opposite effect So as I move this up to the top you can see that this one is now maxed out up here But the physical fader is not and then it's basically just going to close that gap up So it's just going to be something to be aware of I can see that there's going to be plenty of room here for people to Maybe maybe get a little bit confused or maybe have you know, you've got to remember basically where these relative settings are It's going to be easy to come in here and make some changes And then there's no sort of way to Visibly see these when we come out of these settings So just looking at the fader now, there's no way here to see what the relative levels are on the other channel So you will need to be aware of this Oh, sorry, you can't see the full area of the screen that I'm referring to let me come back out of there Sorry about that dragon. There we go. I'll put the full view on hopefully let me know if you can still see the display Okay, but yeah, that does show the the full amount. I was trying to zoom on in on the screen really But hope that hope that it does help But let me know if you you still can't see the the sort of screen clearly Hey, Keely, just so you pop in there as well So let me come back to that screen So yeah, there's basically no way from looking at the screen now when you're on the main screen To know what these relative levels are so you will need to be sort of conscious about what you've set those at to know That now that I'm moving moving the fader up and down You know what that's doing to those other channels in this case. We were on that USB to channel We've we've set that to be at you know a different level to here so you will need to be conscious about this and what you are doing and Yeah, Bicky saying he hopes they update the display to show that yeah, it's gonna be tricky though, isn't it? I mean, I've been wondering about that like how they could do it because Maybe have an indicator on it to know when that just to tell you that there is at least one channel where it's different Otherwise Yeah, it could get quite complicated. I don't know how they would do that from a UI point of view To actually show that you've got differing levels It might be useful where if they had something where it basically showed like what is the maximum difference in either direction? because you could have one you could you know, we've got basically Not ten channels is it that we can change ten channels effectively So before we look at here look, we've got ten different channels So there's basically you could effectively have ten different levels for each fader But what they could do potentially though is just have like a sort of max minimum So you basically have the fader position But then it does show you where there is a sort of maximum and where there is a minimum Sort of above and below that that might be one solution To to sort of illustrate that because as I say you are going to have to keep this in your mind otherwise But yeah, you're showing all tens probably going to be a bit of a bit of a stretch But if I come back into here So this that we've been talking about so far is this relative change So it's basically relative to the the fader and as I move the actual fader It is moving the the the one that we've adjusted as well What you can also do though is you can actually unlink them. So clicking on this little link here What that's going to do is in fact, let me do this one. I'll do this one So now they are unlinked So hopefully you can see there's the the link symbol there looks to be sort of broken And now what happens is the fader when I move this fader up and down You can see on the screen that the fader position the light The you know the light one here the small little indicator is showing the position moving up and down of this fader But actually the fader going out onto this specific channel on this custom routing is not changing at all So that is now no longer linked to this fader here So then in that case this is just a case of tap on this We can adjust the level of that one. We can put it exactly where we want it We could have it just all the way down. We could have it wherever we want it And it's not going to be affected by this one. So that is where you just want to set a specific level For that specific channel and of course as you can see we can do this for all of the different inputs Now we can we can also do that across all of the different channels So you can effectively in theory then just set completely independent levels across all of the channels as well So that is the one that is a sort of unlinked Now what you can also do is basically Replicate the previous functionality that we had which is to say, you know what in this particular mix I just don't want to include that at all So you would click on here and now it is not not going out to that particular channel Incidentally mix minus so just to be clear on this and you've got the option of main or mix minus When you come into custom there's no sort of mix minus set up by default But if you want mix minus then the way to do that is basically just remove the actual chat channel that is you know the the outward Output to that channel from this input. So here we're on USB 2 So mix minus is effectively you've got all of the channels going to USB to accept USB 2 so if you wanted to make sure that you were adjusting levels But you also want this mix minus thing you just need to make sure that you sort of remove the corresponding channel From the from the mix that is going back down that channel. So here we're looking at USB 2 So we remove USB 2 and that is now effectively mix minus But we've made some adjustments to the levels as well. So that is how they that is how they that is how mix minus effectively works Now one of the questions that a lot of people ask and I've had this with that consultations where people are not comfortable with hearing themselves back Over there, you know over their monitors, you know, if they're on zoom calls or things like that all day They find it a distraction to be hearing themselves back now Obviously the reason why we have the the monitor if you if you're on mic one position and you're plugged into your Headphone one and then you're going to hear the microphone. You're going to hear yourself back and some people find that Strange and they're not used to it or they just don't like it Well up until now there's been no way to actually prevent that because it's part of the you know The thing that as the sort of host if you like the person on channel one That you're going to want to be able to monitor everything including your microphone And there was no way to actually change that well now effectively you can so if you're someone who doesn't like to hear yourself back Then what you can do is you can come into the headphones because As well as being able to change these USB channels, we can also change the headphones as well So if I come into the headphones one Which is the sort of main one then you can see that I've got my my little microphone here as I'm talking the Levels are going up and down and everything else is just exactly as it is so these are all there's no adjustments being made They're all just doing exactly what's the the sort of main board if you like is showing But what I could do is I could actually just remove my microphone from the mix And so now I'm not hearing myself back and for me This is a bit weird because I'm now used to it But a lot of people as I say I don't want to necessarily hear them self back when they're on you know zoom calls or things like that So that is how you would do that you can effectively just remove anything from any channel now So you can effectively move your remove your microphone. I'm just going to put that back it for a moment So this brings us on to another sort of area that I'm going to be using this for which is just quickly hey Eileen great See you here Yeah, one of the ways that I'm going to be using this is I've done this sort of little work around before to give me an extra channel on the Rocaster going into my computer because I use basically I've got my microphone here This one is for e-com live orange for e-com. This one is discord. So purple for discord And then I've got my blue for zoom. So those are my three channels And those are basically the USB Rocaster main Rocaster chat and the secondary channel. So those are the three USB channels that we've got Over those two USB connectors that we've got So that is those are three dedicated channels that I'm using with mix minus on For those sort of three communication apps where I need to have basically a dedicated channel with mix minus But what I did was I basically used then two of the channels on the back or two of the inputs on the back So I've got here these two here that are just down there That is basically a left and right channel that is coming from the computer And this is something that somebody asked about I posted a short about this the other day actually But how do you do this where you've basically got this extra channel then coming in from your computer? And I've talked about this before on the channel, but we can now sort of build on this But just to be clear the way that you do that is you need something basically with a TRS on one end and then on the other end if you have a dual XLR you can basically plug this into your computer and you can plug these then into the the dual XLR on the back and that gives you a left and right channel and to set that up on the Rocaster if I just come back to this shot and if you want to set up your Your channels basically you're going to go to where is it? faders and Then you can set what you want for each individual channel So if I want to apply basically a stereo pair, but to a single single fader You just come in here and you can see here where you are going to select what the input is In fact, if I just come and do a new one for you, so Daisy Let me just take a sort of blank space like that Here what you can do is you can see that you can select any input to apply to that fader But you've also got these little stereo buttons just down here And you can see there is a stereo button between input 1 and 2 a stereo button between input 2 and 3 and a Stereo between input 3 and 4 and what that's going to do is that's basically going to link those two mono channels Into a single stereo channel and so that's effectively what I've got here. So you can see it says on it 2 and 3 So that channel there is basically Linking input 2 and 3 and that's the ones that I've got there on the back Linking together these two channels to become a stereo pair and that you would do I'm actually using a slightly different connector there But this is basically the easiest one that you'd have which as I say is to XLRs going into a TRS and plug that into your Headphone socket on the back of your computer and then basically you've got another feed coming into the Rocaster from your computer. So the way that I had this setup was that I was as I say using these three USB channels with mix-minus for zoom, e-cam and Discord and then I had my system audio which didn't really need to be two-way in any case Had that coming into this this sort of pair on the back And by the way, I've left a link to all of these connectors down in the in the back in the the description But now what they've done is with opening up the routing to the headphones What we can effectively do is we can actually create a two-way audio and Basically create another mix-minus channel So the way that you would do that is basically take a cable out of the the back So I've got this cable into here. In fact, let me just show you what I'm talking about Out of the way a little bit Where's it gone So basically you would take a cable out of the headphone socket at the back And then you would route this one then into the computer and you'd use something like like this if I just bring it up So that's just an extension cable a 3.5 mil Extension and then that would go into something like this where you've got a headphones and a mic that goes into a TRRS because the TRRS going into the computer into the back of the Mac mini for example will Will basically give you the mic input and the headphone input Or a headphone output I should say so then the headphones here You're going to connect this using this cable the one that goes to the dual input into the Rocaster So the headphone socket from your Mac is now basically going into the Rocaster And then that output you would need to get a little adapter like this to take the quarter inch down to a 3.5 mil Run that into the mic input here that we've got the little microphone symbol there And then plug both of these into your your Mac and now you've basically got a mic input and a Speaker output from your Mac So then what you can do is basically just then that is coming out of as I say one of the headphone ports on the back So if I come over to here for a second So that then is just plugged into one of these headphone ports So this is plugged into headphone socket number two and that then is controlled by by this dial here So what we can do then is if we come back into our audio routing So I'm going to go into the outputs Go into routing and now what we can do is set up our headphone to which is effectively our feed back to our computer on that channel And now if you want to have mixed minus as I mentioned before The way to do that is just to remove the thing from that channel that you want to remove now in this case It is actually this stereo pair that is coming in so that is effectively the input from our computer And what we're going to do is we're just going to remove that one From the output that is going back out through the headphone to socket Which is actually the input to the computer and now what we've created is basically a fourth mix minus channel And so any application on your computer that you wanted to use in addition to the other three Where you wanted to have mixed minus on then you would just select the input and the output as being your headset So in your Mac you would see in your settings that you've got an option to change your audio And you could just change that to be the headset that you've got plugged in at the back And that would effectively then be this fourth mix minus channel so Plenty of reasons where you might want to use that so if you are someone who uses zoom and also zoom ISO for example Then you would use the zoom ISO would be on one of these channels and the zoom would be on another And then you would still have your ecam and discord as well So that is a great way to just sort of hack this around to basically give yourself a fourth USB fourth mix minus channel Now somebody asked about can you just plug directly into a single socket on the back? You know just taking an extension plug it into the computer and into a single socket rather than the rather than use two of them That's what I did initially until my error was pointed out by I think it was DJ Rob Who pointed out as well as a couple of others in the comments, but yeah The sockets on the back just bear in mind our only mono So you do need that pair if you want to have the stereo, but if mono is cool with you Then you can just plug it into one of those and then in that case You know you're only taking one channel and it might be that with your microphone You can actually have up to you know three different mix minus channels then in addition to the three that we've got over USB the only thing then would be how to get them into your computer So if you want to create extra channels another way to do it would be to then have you know one of them going in over that TRS cable into your computer as You know showing up as the headset you could also get a you know You can get these little USB adapters that basically you plug your headphones and your mic in and that would give you a another Channel that way so there's lots of ways that you can basically still add these all in I'm not sure you know if you're getting up to maybe six mix minus channels. You're probably doing something a little bit niche anyway But there you go Just a quick check in hey Parker great to see you here And oh bicky so you're gonna use that with when you stream on disc gold play music low for listeners But it's too loud in my headphones. Yes, that's exactly the the use case for this So yeah, it's good good that it's finally here. I'll be interested to see how they How they do display this on the screen? I'm also really looking forward to being able to do this with the smart pads I'll come on to that in a moment, but yeah, it's limited in terms of what you can sort of activate of this But I still tend to use the sort of listen come out listen buttons at the bottom and the mute buttons to to activate These sort of exclusions out to certain channels. I'll explain this in more depth, but Yeah, being able to just do it with a touch of a button. I think would be a really useful feature as well Hey James great to see you here confidently upgrade to venture a venture. Yeah, I've I've I'm on Ventura now, so In terms of Ventura, there's a few little niggles with it in terms of the Some of the things that you've got set up you have to re Reapply the preferences. So for example with pro mouse that wasn't working. I had to go back in and and go and Refresh the settings or something like that. So yeah, there's certain things that you might have to reset But it seems to be working fine So Bicky's asking can you change monitoring volume for individual channel? You can't change them but the monitoring volume as such except that you are monitoring it in your headphones So in theory, yes, because you would basically I mean monitoring is basically just what is coming through your headphones, isn't it? So in that sense, it just be a case of Coming into the headphone channel So if I go into the headphone one, so that's where you're going to be monitoring And basically you've got control over all the levels there So you could actually change the monitoring level relative or independently and so in that sense. Yes, you could do that You could change exactly what you're hit hearing because yet you've just done the the headphones Hey Andrew, great to see you here as well Hello there great to see you first time in the live stream. I appreciate your comments You're at the beta and I sent feedback to road to suggestion to add markers or indicators on the main screen To see the relative levels of each and I'll be doing exactly the same. Yeah, I don't know if you're here early But we're just talking about that as well It would be really useful to to see that so that's a great a great suggestion And yet we've all got it all got to get that one in the more the more of us who submit it the better You could Yeah, that's terrible You can never hear your vocal effects and did a whole stream talking in megaphone and never knew it I've done that before like triggered something without realizing it. It's funny that is because I Have heard a few people have had that and it doesn't happen with me all of the time But there's been a couple of occasions where I've had it where I've been trying to trigger something And I've thought it hasn't worked, but it has So yeah, there's definitely a few sort of software Firmware issues with it in terms of that the other one that I've had that I know a lot of people have had as well Is I'll get like one of the smart pads triggering just on its own And it seemed to happen as soon as I mounted it on a on a stand and it it was worse when I it was mounted on to My Algato wave arm. So just to show you how my setup is at the moment That's perhaps a bit far away try this one So this is just on a on an arm at the moment because it's got the visa mount on the back So I've mounted it to that and so it means I can sort of move it out of the way when I'm not demoing yet I can push it out of the way But I also did have it on this Algato wave arm because you can obviously also have it with a single connector on the back as well the Whatever the size is so they got either the single screw or the four screws So at the moment it's with the four screws on it But when it was just on this one I don't know whether it was kind of like twisting and distorting the the casing or something like that potentially But yeah, basically this smart pad here triggered. So I've basically just decided I'm not going to use this one just for For the sake of security But that sound pad just happened to be the sound of cricket So it's not great when you're on a zoom meeting and then suddenly get crickets But I suppose it's better than as you say the the the megaphone or the robot voice Mr. Cameron junkie, I don't know if you're aware of him But he's got a great channel and he posted a short recently where yeah He was just a crucial crucial point of explaining something and it went into the whole you know witness protection style voice the deep one so That was quite amusing But yeah, obviously not for a whole stream. So definitely a few little issues around and do you know if road is? Planning on dragon dropping the touchpad. Oh, that is so needed, isn't it? It seems such a it seems such a strange thing to not be in there to be honest Given that you can program the touchpads on the the screen and given that the screen You know, you can drag and drop the channels on the faders Why is it that we can't do that because it makes actually using the I find there's a huge amount of friction in using the smart pads And so I probably don't use them as much as I want or as much as I would if it was just a lot easier to use So just in case you weren't aware what Andrew is talking about there is on the the smart pads You've got these different smart pads. So if I tap on a space here and add let's say a I'll put an effect. I'll just put the robot on so now we've got Who would help if I showed you this wouldn't it? Let me come back and do that again There we go So what we're talking about here is where you've got the smart pads and you can program them So you can program the smart pads by just going in either tapping on on here You can go into do it from the menus But just tap anywhere on this area of the screen which sort of shows you what these eight smart pads are doing So if I come in here and just say apply an effect So we'll say we'll apply robots to that one and then if we come into this one We're gonna program the one next to it. Let's say that that is some other effect. I don't know something like that echo So now we've got those two smart pads. Well, how do you swap those around? Let's say I want to decide I want to move that one down here You would think you'd just be able to sort of basically touch on that and just drag it down because you can do that You can drag and drop, you know with with the fade positions So it's still a physical thing on the device and you can just drag and drop and switch around which one you want where But with these you can't and what it means is if I want the you know, whatever this effect is down here What I actually have to do is click in here Then I have to clear it like that and then I have to come down here And then I have to set it up again and with a simple effect like this is obviously no problem But when you've got an audio clip, you've got to go back into the road central device Road central app and then you've got to go and through and set it all up again So yeah having drag and drop on there It's something that I've submitted already as a feature request But it definitely is something that I'm hoping comes in because it would just make it It would just make it a lot more sort of user friendly And what kind of boom arm am I using for the the roadcaster? I'll tell you which one it is and I'll get this up because I should have put that in the description, but I haven't but I can get it up. No problem It was it's one it was like $24 or something like that not an expensive one and I thought to myself is this really going to be any good I bought it was whatever the equivalent is in Thailand, but on on Amazon it is It is about $24. I think I'll find the link for you though because yeah, it was one of these things where I wasn't really sure about it Anyway, it turned up and I couldn't believe actually the quality of it. It's really really sturdy Perfect for this. I've since bought another couple. So I've got one with my if I just come to this shot One's holding this but then this monitor here So I have a monitor that is basically beneath my teleprompter It's like a little lightweight monitor and so I've got one for that and then I bought one for my wife's monitor as well So they're really really really good. Let me just find the link for it for you though Just a second That's it get this up for you Yeah, it's not a not a brand I've heard of obviously at that price, but there you go So this is called a North by you It is one of the Amazon choice ones I didn't realize that when I bought it from because I bought it from Lazada, which is the sort of Southeast Asia Amazon equivalent, but there it is. So at the moment it's $29 on on Amazon and yeah, it's just it feels so sturdy You would I would have I would have thought it would be you know a lot more flimsy than it is Considering the price point, but yeah, I've been really happy with this. There it is and it comes with a Just to digress slightly but since we're talking about it You can see it's got this basically a clamp so it clamps to your desk But it does also come with the screw attachment so you can actually just screw it directly through your desk instead So so I haven't done that here, but I've done that on my my wife's desk. So it just sort of neatens it up Holds a lot of weight. I mean, I've just using it for the rocaster obviously I'm also using it for this really lightweight monitor but my wife's monitor is like a what is it 32 inch curved monitor and it's got no problem holding that up as well I got some cable management going on underneath there as well and yeah It's really good rotates as well so you can twist it around so all the usual things But yeah, I was just really impressed with that for the for the price. I thought it was really really cool So anyway, I digress slightly. Where were we? Yeah, so I do hope that they they do some other updates in terms of that that sort of dragging and dropping it as well Now I did get a couple of other questions though about the the software and the other the the update But one of them was related to the the software the sorry the road central software In fact, there was one thing that I missed out of there. Let me come to that as well As I go off off topic again. Where is it not there? It is this one hopefully Yeah, there we go. So that is the road central app Accompanying the update to the device. There is also a road central update and you can see this is beta 2.0.1 5 You do need to get that as well as the firmware So make sure that you download that because that will have an effect on working with the other beta Now I mentioned before there's a couple of things that have changed in here. First of all, if I go into the audio setup We've now got more control over what we can do in terms of I've just noticed This is not actually picking up my channels at the moment Maybe need to restart the software. I can still demo this anyway, so but basically here It we've now got as well as being able to set up the routing and this clearly is not making the connection because it should Just show the routing that I've got on here And but now we've got these little cog wheels here where basically you can go in and actually change All of the processing and things like that That is something that wasn't available on the the previous version of the software So now you can actually go in and change all of the you know the the noise gate the compression and all of that kind of stuff as well So so yeah, that is another little addition which has been added in and we've also then got the new routing So obviously you can control all of that from here So that is in the where was that device configuration routing so all of the features that we've just looked at in terms of setting those different levels Then then yet you can do that in here now as well You could do that before as well But it's just we obviously didn't have all of the features so that's been added in one thing that they've also added though is talking about the smart pads They have actually added in the ability to change things like the effects and the mixer effects So previously it was only the The the the the sound settings basically so be able to be able to upload a particular sound To that that pad whereas now you can go in and change all of the the effects as well So previously we just had this choose a file drag and drop So it was just for the audio, but now you can go in and change all of those those effects as well So that's just another another update to the the settings in the another way that you can update the settings I should say from the app Hey Felicia great to see you here as well Whoops lazy. Where's it gone? I'll be trigger happy there to get off the screen as soon as it went up. There we go. Hey Felicia Yeah Yes, yeah ordering from from Amazon US to be shipped to Europe is probably not the yet the wisest But you should still be able to find it from there. They just you know search for the name I think they've got them everywhere. Like I say it's I got it from in my case Lazada, Thailand So so yeah, they are available everywhere else as well So the other thing then that I was showed on my it was actually inadvertently in a In the the short that somebody asked about as well was this little thing that I've got on top of my my There we go this this thing here. So this is I talked about this actually in my previous live stream. I was talking about my studio upgrades Hey, Richard great to see you as well So one of the things that I'm going to be starting to do more with the with the Rocaster in my studio in general is Actually doing some demos of products. So obviously for my not for YouTube so much, but on the My Amazon live channel Doing product demos and things like that where a microphone like this gets in the way So I wanted a wireless solution and the one that I went with after a lot of research Was this one this small rig. What's it small rig? w60 How'd you pronounce that? Poravella, there we go One thing I really love about this though is the fact that it does come in its own little charging case So I looked at the road obviously the road wireless go and then there's the dji option as well but I just like the fact that these come in their own little case and then They've got the the two wireless devices in there. It doesn't record to the device like the road does But nevertheless, it's two wireless Ones there. They've got a little windshield obviously that goes on the top And then the thing I like about this is you've got a usb charging socket on the side But also it hasn't just got a usb cable built into the case, which is a nice little touch So, you know, great if you're sort of traveling to be able to take that with you as well I'm going to primarily be using this just in the studio And so as well as the the two mics, which I'll be using one of at any given time You can see one of them just switched on there Switch that off Um And yeah, these are they're a bit smaller than the road by the way as well So the road wireless goes are basically the same depth but just not quite a bit wider So these are not quite as wide as that But the transmitter, these are the transmitters The receiver though is basically just sitting up here And the way that I've done that is because I did want it to be sort of sitting where I can see it I can show you how I've set this up I'm a bit of a MacGyver fan. So I tend to make these little things So what I've done is I've basically got a little stand like that. This is the road VXLR Pro so this is basically to take a A 3.5 mil jack And take that into XLR. There are three different versions of this. This is actually the the middle one One of them doesn't do phantom power the one that is the next one up from this the Top one if you like the more expensive one that basically it will work over much longer distances So it's something to do with the power rating or something like that But it will work basically if you've got a longer cable attached as I'm just using this here I do want the phantom power, but I don't necessarily need it to go over long distances So I've got this which just plugs it into there The actual transmitter itself or the receiver I should say it just looks like this the cutest little transmitter receiver I should say if I switch that on Um, it's just got a little screen there and then you can adjust the levels of each mic individually So with these little dials they're not switched on so it's not showing up But that would show you sort of the levels coming in from the the mic That's then just is plugged in With this little cable that comes with that actually with the set is the same one as you can get with most road in any case With road mics is the TRS cable here at one end going into TRS on the other So that is just plugged into there. This is a little cold shoe mount So I've left a link to all of these things by the way in the description as well But then I've just used my little Magic molded plastic. So this is this stuff called polymorph. I've talked about this on the channel before This is not a bag of columbia's finest. It's something called polymorph Which is basically little plastic granules like maybe I can show you this It comes in a packet of these little plastic beads And you basically just put it into warm water or hot water and then they melt and then mold it into any shape And then when it cools down it'll set, you know as hard plastic basically So that effectively is what this thing is. So I've just made this little molded plastic That sits nicely over the top of the the road So this comes with a belt clip by the way So if you've got you know an xlr cable clips on your belt and then you'll just plug into to there But this then will just basically fit onto this So it just gives me the little little angle there of this cold shoe mount And then this will just slot into that And then this pops into the back So there I have a little thing that will basically just plug into the back of my my rocaster And it's got my little wi-fi receiver Or whatever it is Just plug it in Then that is just nicely mounted onto the back of my my rocaster So someone had asked about that that is what that is It is a a receiver for my wireless mics, and then I just wanted it like that so that it sits nicely on top of My rocaster. So when I'm looking at it, that's what I see. I can see the levels that it's coming in at And it just sits neatly up there, but that that plastic stuff There was one that I was on or rather had Luis from uh, mr. Cameron junkie himself was on my podcast and he was talking about this other stuff that is like a a It comes in a sheet basically, but it's like toughened plastic that you do the same sort of thing heat it up and you can mold it into anything um, so yeah, I need to get some of that one as well, but uh There is a 3d printer in my future. Yes It's one of those things that's been on the list, but I've never got around to it But yeah, there's lots of things that I could I could 3d print this stuff's really handy though Just for making, you know, you don't have to do any You know designing of the things you can just make little Fittings and things like that. I've used this so many times it comes in really handy for little repairs as well Of stuff where you need to just repair something. It's uh, yeah works retreat. It's really tough once it's set as well So, uh, yeah, definitely recommend that Hey jules, great to see you. Thank you for dropping into the stream Um, how does one set this up for a multitrack recording? Um With logic pro can you briefly show that uh, right? I can't necessarily show that because I don't have I don't have logic pro on here at the moment or anything that would have Multi-track I'll show I can show you the settings in the row caster. How about that? That is what I can do with that at the moment. Uh, so if I come back to this shot um So in the settings And then where would it be to be outputs? You've got multi-track here So you've got two options which is recording and usb So recording is when you are recording to the road caster itself And the usb is what is going out over the usb one channel. So when you are Doing multitrack, you've got three usb channels.  Um, however You uh, uh, you can only use the multitrack on the on the primary channel the usb 2 The road caster pro 2 main. Sorry. It's a bit of a mouthful on the main channel Um, so in here you've got the option of it being off Prefader or post fader. Um, so with it being off Then that means it's just going to go out as a stereo mix And in fact, you can see that when you actually have a look at your devices Maybe I can get this up if I go to my audio preferences I'll show you the difference of how you can tell that this is either on or not uh sound settings So what we'll see is if I bring this one up over here for you So I've got my uh sound settings open now To come and down and what you can see is over here where you've got your list of input and output devices This says road caster pro 2 main stereo and that's because I've got it set up as there's no Multitrack on it If you've got multitrack on then you'll see that this name of this will change to road caster pro 2 main Multitrack. Um, and so that is the one in your audio application That is the one that you will need to to select so you'd need to make sure you've got multitrack on on the device But then also make sure that you've got Um, uh, just selected this one as your sort of input to your, you know, your audio program Um, in terms of the different types of multitrack, there's basically two options there So you've either got If I come to the right scene, there we go, uh, you can see you've got here Hopefully you can read that either Um, main. Sorry either off Uh prefader or post fader. So prefader is likely what you'll want to have Um, if you are doing any sort of audio mixing in, you know, an app like you're talking about there like in logic Um, because prefader is basically going to send all of the sort of raw information Exactly as it's coming in so you're not going to be applying any sort of um adjustment to that in terms of these these faders Um, so that would be prefader. So if you're going to do any sort of post mixing, that is likely what you will want Um post fader then is, you know, any adjustments that you've made here Are going to also carry through into that mix. So, um, yeah likely if you're going to be doing things in, you know Any kind of audio editing app you likely want to have the actual, you know, full signal coming in And then you can do the adjustments in there Um, so yes, I would I would say that that's probably what you're going to want And then in that particular app, as I say, it's not they're not apps that I use But in there you would then have all of those tracks coming in Um Oh, that's interesting. So bicky when you um, when you uploaded large audio files to the pads It gave you less pages. Did it really? Oh, that's interesting. I've never tried that that Yes, so perhaps there's a limit on the the space Of, uh, of how much it's got for that. Ah, interesting stuff. Yeah, never never realize that one That's that's good to know though, that is Um, as I say, I've not really used the the pads that much just purely because of the um, uh, you know The friction involved in making any changes to them. So I don't tend to to use them so much Um Let's have a look here Our garage band is similar While using obs with the rocaster which setting is best to use rocaster chat or main It actually doesn't really matter to be honest. Um, since they added in the mix minus to all of the channels um What I would say though is to have a dedicated channel to uh obs And then also have mix minus turned on and the reason is that um, if you've got any audio coming from obs, it's been a while since I've tried playing around with obs, but obviously you can have Um, you can have audio embedded, you know in your obs setup, for example So obs is going to see the rocaster as a mic input So if you've got any audio that is happening in obs It's going to be feeding into the rocaster into the mix and then it will be feeding straight back into obs If you don't have mix minus switched on um, and so that is what you'd want to do Whichever channel you have it on if I just come back into this top down shot again Make sure you go into the rooting and let's say you've got it on the usb one or usb chat Whichever it is just make sure that mix minus is switched on because the thing about that as well is You don't actually notice it yourself as the person on the rocaster monitoring it That if you don't have mix minus it is basically feeding back into the the application So often people do this on zoom everything sounds fine to them But because they don't have mix minus on everyone in zoom is saying oh I can hear echo and they mean slap back They can hear themselves coming back um, so yeah in obs just to reiterate I would say Basically choose any channel, but try and give it its dedicated channel So you'd have maybe system audio on one and obs on another that is going to be the best result in terms of Future proofing it this thing about the mix minus by the way It's one of those things that if you need it you need to have it on But if you don't need it it also doesn't matter if you do have it on so I always just say you might as well Just switch the mix minus on for anything, you know for anything you're doing really for all of these For all of the usb channels at least Um, because yeah, I can't think of a scenario where Um, you would want the channel feeding back to itself. So it almost is a no-brainer to me to have it switched on Um, yeah, so in my case, I've got ecamm live, which is my my obs if you like Ecamm live is on the main channel I've got discord on the chat and I've got zoom on the the secondary channel But they could equally be on each other's channel The only one where the actual channel that you pick makes a difference Is coming back to that previous case that jules was asking about Which was when you're using multitrack the multitrack only applies to the main channel So if you are doing anything where you want to use multitrack You probably want to reserve that channel for that and then use the other channels for for other things Um So, yeah, I hope that I hope that answers the the question Um, but yeah, that's where I'm up to with the uh, the row caster So a couple of things in terms of little sort of bugs that I've noticed So one of the things that I do when I'm actually doing this rather than exclude channels from specific You know incoming channels from specific outgoing channels. I tend to use the listen buttons on the bottom So what I mean by that is if I just come out of here I've just mentioned that I'm I'm I have ecamm on this channel. So I want that to go in my live stream This is actually the channel for discord. So I've got discord open So channel members can go in there and join before the live stream and afterwards as well So that's the cue to check out channel memberships But I have that one where I want to be able to hear what's going on But I obviously don't want it going out in the stream if somebody speaks in discord I don't want that just passing straight through into the stream I've got zoom here as well. And this is system audio. So I don't necessarily want system audio going through all the time I've put these faders down to the bottom at the moment just for this demo because I didn't want to have any of these things Sort of cluttering up when I was showing These other advanced settings, but normally what I do is I basically Have this these mute Buttons fixed so that these channels are now muted So even if somebody was screaming in the the discord it wouldn't come through there because they are muted But also in that case, I can't hear them either So they are muted for me and they're muted for you as well So if you use the listen button though, so this is the green button What that means is then that I'm listening to that channel Um, and now I can't hear any of the other channels. Um, I'm only listening to the discord It's not going out into the the mix. Um, so I can't now hear myself For example, even though that's going up and down. I can't hear myself But you can listen to multiple channels So actually what I tend to do is just set this so that I'm listening to all of the channels But I'm muting the ones that are going out The reason why I do it like that is because in the live stream Sometimes I may want to flick over to discord and have the audio from discord come through And so this is for me the quickest way for me to be able to just basically toggle this on and off And then that would then be going out into the mix. I can toggle it off again And then now it's not going out into the mix, but I can still hear it So this allows me to monitor and listen to what's going on without it going into the mix And as I say, I wouldn't want to do that in here going through the custom routing because it would mean Anytime I wanted to bring a guest up from discord, for example into a live stream Or if I was doing something in zoom where I wanted to have someone in discord coming into the zoom call Which is something I do sometimes then Yeah, it would be a bit of a pain to actually go in here click on the Sorry the the outputs click in the routing Click in the output here and make these adjustments. So that's the reason why for me, I find that these listen and and Mute buttons down here work really well. One thing that I've noticed though is that whereas before even though Even though you're not listening before the levels would still come through So if I was to play some audio or something like that, I would still see the levels going up and down In fact, if I just come into something here, maybe I can just get up a something with audio in That's not going to cause issues. It's probably easiest if I just go to Play one of my own videos and then I'm sure it's not So I'll just play something in system audio for you for a second just so that We can see how this this is sounding Second Because what was happening before is I would still see the audio levels going up and down So if I just play any video from here, I'm just playing a video on on here and I can now hear the audio backstage Also, Daisy now that is coming through for some reason because Uh, I'll tell you why that is I've changed these setups of this a little bit Um, but basically what I'm getting at is where before I was listening to something if I just quickly changed my audio settings I changed the output. There we go. I want that to be external headphones Right so Now I'm hearing the system audio Coming through on this channel because if you remember that pair there is the one that I have for my my system audio now previously even if the The thing was muted and I was listening. I would still see the level though I would still see the level of the audio, but it seems in this update I'm no longer seeing the the level even though Um, as you can see or feeling you need the there is some audio actually coming through there So it's only when I unmute it for you that I actually see the level But previously I would still see the level which is something that I think you would want I don't know why they've removed that because uh intentionally because I think that you do want to be able to mute something Monitor it and actually see where the levels are here That's part of the whole point is to be able to listen and monitor something To get the levels right before it goes through into the mainstream So that just seemed to be one little little bug that I've noticed at least I think it's a bug It's certainly something that doesn't make a entire sense to me. Um, so yeah And that's how bicky you listen and monitor it too And this brings me on to another sort of suggestion of I'm going to be putting in I've already put this in I think with the previous beta, but I might as well try and put it in again Which is that with these smart pads You can control to some extent Some of this monitoring on the bottom So if I come into the smart pads and then click on one of these Tap on one of these we don't click anymore, do we? Um, but you've got these mixer effects And what this allows you to do is Basically set up some level of rooting Um, so trash talk is if you want to Talk trash about people who are coming in over usb or bluetooth And that is between you and other people in the studio So if you activate that one, then basically it means that only the people on the headphones and the the the mic inputs Will be able to sort of hear each other Um, assuming that you want to talk trash about people who are coming in through some other way Um, so that is just a it just sets that up as one button Basically means that anyone on headphones in studio will be able to hear and anybody else will not be able to hear What's being said whilst that is pressed Then the other one is back channel. So these are the two that relate to rooting and with back channel. What you can do is If I uh look on these buttons down here now So at the moment, I've got these mute symbols here next to these three channels But i'm listening on all of them if you actually mute and listen on the main mic channel So the mic the the primary mic What that's going to do is that's going to set up a back channel between the mic and Any other channel that you've got these two things switched on for so if I press this you'll see that they all go So now those have all gone yellow. I can kind of simulate this with you guys I guess if I just turn these down I'm going to now create a back channel between Me and this live stream by pressing basically the the the mute button on both of them And what you'll see is that hopefully you can see that that has gone yellow basically on these two meaning that now Basically this audio now is only going between me and and you it's not going down to these other channels So it means that in the discord jeff now won't be able to hear me But if I take that off for a second like this Like that there we go So that is the way you can set up a back channel and you can do that in here as well So you can decide where you want the back channel. So between mic The my mic and my headphones and any of these other channels But also with the usb channels So you can do this back channeling, but what you can't do is be really specific about How you want these things set up? So what I'd love to see is for them to advance this whole section of the Where was it the the mixer effects? So build out this mixer effects more to be able to activate some of these controls so that we don't have to do this little work around of using the the listen and The listen and mute commands to decide what's going where be now to have a shortcut basically on here To activate some of the advanced routing would be would be really helpful So that's something else that I would like to like to see So have have you played with using the caster with With using caster with rcp. I do know I haven't played with that actually By an application control between the mac and the rcp12 I've not played with the app and I don't think I've heard of that app I'm googling it right now But what I have been pleased to see is that I mentioned on a stream previously I'm going to check this out whilst we're talking. Um, I mentioned on a previous stream How I was thinking about making an app to basically connect the road caster with um, ecum live so that um, you could control audio over ecum live with the with the midi controls because you can control midi from the smart pads And then you can also control things with the faders there was already an application called el mc, I think ecum live midi controller And that enabled you to use midi devices to control ecum so you could use midi to switch Scenes and things like that Um, but one of the things it couldn't do was it couldn't adjust the volumes So it could only do the you know, you could switch scenes and all that kind of stuff Which meant that you would be able to use el mc to switch scenes by tapping smart pads, for example Or maybe bring up overlays by tapping the smart pad. So that would form that link Well, two things have happened since then since I mentioned this last time First of all el mc is at a big update. Um, so that means that now it can actually control the volume You know audio things like that. Um, which means that you could then in theory have The rocaster controlling ecum live audio Levels and the reason why I wanted that was specifically for Controlling guest level so in interview mode Where you've got a guest coming in to be able to control the guest level on its own fader You wouldn't necessarily see the actual level on On here because you're just using the fader to control something So you're not actually seeing an audio indication of their level except that you are seeing that on the fader coming in from ecum But what it would mean is if you had multiple different guests, you could assign a fader to each guest then Um, so that's one thing that happened is el mc was updated to allow that But the other thing that's happened is obviously the stream deck plus cut came out And that's now got support for that as well. So it looks like I won't be bothering to make that happen After all because I've got two two new ways of of solving that that problem Hey, kath great to see you here. I'm I'm going to be doing some Some edited shorts in a descript. Thanks to kath. She did a great walkthrough of it and Basically, I've been sitting on descript for for ages and not getting around to doing it and repurposing my content And yeah watching your live stream the other day kath Just basically answered all of my questions and it saved me going and figuring it out. So I really appreciate you doing that Something that you would love to to be able to save to do is save audio clips sound inside the drive of the rcp So that I wouldn't need my computer to assign them to the smart pads Yeah, get a way to get those audio clips in there's a sort of work around for that But not really the work around for it is you can record clips on the device itself And so what you could do is you could have You could play the audio clip on your computer and then record it on the device So what i'm talking about there, but yeah, I totally agree. There should be a better way to actually get those in But the way to do that would be If we come over to here and go to the smart pads What you can do here is click on that and click on sound And then you can click the record button So now anything that anything that's coming through the roadcaster Is being recorded. So now it's recording my voice But if I was to have any other audio coming in it would be recording that Click on the stop button there and now I've got that audio clip and if I was to play that Is being recorded. So now it's recording my voice But if I was to have there you go So that is now basically got us that that audio clip and then Obviously you might need to clean this up if you play something over on your computer And you want to just sort of trim it you can trim it like that And you can trim the beginning and the end using those two little dots on the bottom You can also fade it in and out by moving the the dots at the top So you can see that that's kind of like ramping up. So and then that one's like that Maybe ramp it down So if I was to just click on that there, then we've got that sound assigned is being recorded. So now it's record So that's that's basically, you know recording a sound on the device So in theory, although that is obviously my voice, it could equally be anything else that's coming into the roadcaster So that is a little way of doing it rather than going in and finding the file and dragging and dropping it and all that kind of stuff You could literally just record a little clip From there instead So that is a little little way around that but I totally agree I think the smart pads in general are one of the areas where I see there is the most scope for improvement where They could improve the sort of usability of it for sure And Paul's dropped in the link for Caster Oh, sorry castor I have seen this of course. This is the one that was doc was talking about Um, so yes, yeah, yeah Um, but this so this one I'm just looking this is uh Is this is this one linked specifically to roadcaster? That's what I threw me. I think Um, have you played with using caster with the rcp2 to get I get you I get you I get you I thought you were talking about I thought you were talking about actually controlling apps with the roadcaster I've misunderstood the thing there. I haven't looked at this now. I know that doc sort of dismissed Doc dismissed the algato wave software quite heavily says oh, we don't need uh, we don't need that This is a better app. Um, I would disagree with that to be honest because Yeah, caster is basically an app that opens up control of the the mac Opens up control of the audio on the mac so you can assign basically different applications to different You know faders and it's it basically gives you something akin to a roadcaster in software form on your mac Now I haven't really dug into this because um, the thing that this doesn't necessarily have Is the fact that the algato wave software has a link in with the algato stream deck plus So why would I not use the wave software which does pretty much the same thing as this? Um And I don't know I think doc's got a bit of a thing against algato because he sort of Poo Poo's it for one of a better word Um, but yeah, this is basically like the algato wave software in that you can assign different things to different channels So I've not played around with this because I'm going to play around with the algato one first of all Which basically is open up free if you've got a stream deck plus So I'll be using that one a little bit more This does kind of extensively the same thing you can assign different apps to different channels And on on here you can apply effects. So all of the same kind of effects, you know compression and stuff like that You can apply to to that as well. So yeah, they're very similar to the algato wave Wave link software. So I shall be digging into that. Hey, Michael. Great to see you here. And I've got to say Drop me an email. I've tried to reach out to you on discord when I was on A word, what's his name? DJ Strix channel. You won the Ecamm live masterclass So I've still got to get that to you and I haven't heard from him With your details and I've sent you a message on discord A couple of weeks ago whenever it was just after the event. So you were one of the winners of the the ecamm live masterclass So do drop me a message or tell me the best way to get that to you. And yeah, I'll get you the details for it. So Then hey Gretchen, great to see you here as well. I appreciate you stopping by the the stream And bicky. Yeah, that went to what was his name now? It was a chap in canada Um Jordan Jordan something Jordan. I won't say his surname anyway, but Jordan something in canada won the stream deck plus I am going to be doing another giveaway though I've not sorted out all the details of it yet, but I will be running another one And it may well be it may well be a rocaster. We'll have to see. Um, but yeah, it was um Yeah, we're very well received that was so I think I'll definitely do another one Um Uh, so I've totally missed your comment then I was too busy telling you to make sure you drop me a message to give me your Details to get you the masterclass. I completely forgot to actually read the comment. Um Caster's vsc VST support bit of audio hijack alternative Maybe I might as well just actually show you what I'm talking about with the wavelength as well because wavelength not wavelength Uh wavelength app because um, yeah, it is it is very similar to the um to the caster Um It doesn't have caster as sound pads. I think so you've got the ability to sort of trigger audio from there Which wavelength, uh, doesn't I don't believe? Um, but then, you know, the whole point of that is it works with Um, it works with um the stream deck. Anyway, so I'll just quickly show you this one since we are talking about it So, yeah, this is something I've not had time to dig into just yet. Um, but The wavelength software, uh, basically looks something like this And this is what I'd mentioned on a previous stream that uh, yeah, this is going to actually work well with Uh, the rocaster to give finer control over certain different things that one probably shouldn't be there Let me change that to a different app. So Uh, this will just be app that is open. Let's say safari There we go. So what this means is that basically, um, and this is the wavelength app and this, uh Previously was only available if you had got, um, a Elgato wave microphone or the elgato wave xlr Go, uh, what's it called wave xlr? Is it the one that you can plug any xlr mic into? So it would only work if you had got one of those devices Well with the stream deck plus it basically opened up the elgato wave software to anyone who's using a stream deck Plus regardless of, uh, you know, irrespective of whatever Microphone you're using. So what that means is that you can set up this mixer I could add another channel in here for I don't know something else. Let's say google chrome So now you can see I've got basically different channels for all of these different apps And so that basically means that whilst on the rocaster, I've got now, uh, three usb channels for zoom ecam and discord Well, what I could do is use that system audio channel that I mentioned at the beginning of the stream that I set up I could then have fine control over all of the levels of all of the, uh, the other different things that are feeding into that Separately and what you can also do in here is you can apply effects to if I click on this Uh, you've got various different audio effects that are all of the sort of built-in effects that you've got on the max so we can do things like, um Uh, you know eq, uh, but low pass filter high pass filter all that kind of stuff And apply those different effects compression So if I add that in there, uh, I can come in and sort of change the the effects of them Where's it gone? It will open up a little window somewhere. It's opening up somewhere else Let me try that again. Let me add a different one. Let me just add This it's probably I tell you where it is. It's probably opening up behind my ecam window. No, where is that opening up? I don't know. It's opening up somewhere else Um, so but yeah, so basically when you've got the uh, the Streamdeck plus regardless of microphone you now have the access to this and uh, yeah You can do some various different things on here and change effects and so on and michael's saying that uh, he likes wavelength um When on the road or garden zoom meetings. Oh, they sound nice garden zoom meetings um, so yeah, but yeah, basically just um Works works like that Um castor is also a loopback replacement Uh, actually so you can do some other sort of rooting stuff with that as well. But yeah, there's castor and What is it? There's there's another one. Isn't there ground control room? So if I come over to castor this one Yeah, there's that so there's two applications. There's a ground control castor which is With all the different sort of I'm not sharing the right screen here. Am I we try that again? There we go. Uh, there's castor Which is this one which is as I say, it's very similar to that wavelength But there's another thing here ground control room Um, and that one then has a very different rooting and things like that. I think So, uh, so yeah But anyway, yes, so I'm going to be trying to there's the sort of rooting that you can do there um So yeah with them, uh, I've not really used loopback since I've had the um the row castor because I find I can do most of the Rooting with that and then it's really system audio that I'm doing with with anything on you know else on the computer So, uh, so yeah, I'll be digging into to wavelength a little bit more um so, uh dragon is saying, uh Where's it gone? It seems to be suddenly going a little having a little bit of a wobble There's no reason I get that. Where's it gone? I've been using loopback and audio hijack now mostly sound source all by roga me get sound source is great for controlling the audio levels and routings. Yeah, so I've I used um, uh, mainly loopback and audio hijack I don't think I've used sound source actually but yeah loopback for audio routine and audio hijack I used to use for um, Uh, what's it called noise cancellation getting rid of the air con noise and stuff like that But yeah, I don't need to do that with the uh with the rocaster Um, it is a shame, isn't it really? I don't know why they um, why they don't do that thinking about it Bicky really saying that they all got away software Um, if they made that available without having to buy a specific item because you would think that actually By opening that up to people so that people got to start using it It would work the opposite way of actually helping incentivize people to get the device You know saying that you need to have the device to use that Well, it could work the other way if they actually opened up that software and then people saw how good it was Then they could say um, well, maybe I might want to get the uh, the stream debt plus now to control it because they get to try it beforehand, so Yeah, it's a bit strange that one. Um Would caster work with road caster and obs for zoom calls in a live stream It totally would because basically what this is doing so what caster's doing and what the wavelengths software are doing Is they're basically just allowing you to control um the various different levels of your audio So in effect, you know, as well as in just the same way as we've got the sort of You know the mixer on the road caster where we can adjust the levels of different channels Well, basically it's just adding another level of fine grain adjustment then Um, so that uh, you can adjust the levels of different apps And I mean even without the road caster, let's take the road caster completely out of the equation Just having one of those, uh, you know either either caster the app or having road, um The uh, sorry the the wavelength app having that Um, you would be able to adjust levels and do very similar things as we can do with the road caster So think of it really as um, just an extension of the road caster mixing board Really except it all just comes down to one channel in the road caster. So um So yeah, that's uh, that's that's what I'd say about that The other one that's a bit weird while we're talking about road is they obviously came out with a very similar app To those called, uh, was it road x and I was really looking forward to that because I thought it was going to be basically like a A caster or a uh, a wavelength But from road the only thing is it's only pc and so obviously I'm a mac user I was surprised that it didn't come out for mac as well And it basically looks very similar in fact if I just pull that one up Uh, what's it called road? I think it's just called road x, isn't it? They had a big build up to it this new things coming out road x and then it was a microphone as well A road x microphone, but they also had the the app Uh, where is it? A virtual mixing solution for streaming and gaming And uh, yeah This is what it was There we are road road x Unify And as you can see from this little image here It's it's on the the computer looks very similar So you've got different levels a bit like a rogue. I mean it looks like a virtual road caster, doesn't it really? You've got the different faders there. You've got the different channels Um And yeah, I was it's just not available for for the mac. So I was really surprised by that um And there it is download for pc Unify is compatible with windows pc's only windows 10 and above required So the day that it was released I went to go and downloaded it. Oh never mind But uh, yeah, that's a bit surprising. Hopefully that will come to the the mac at some point Um, well, I think I've pretty much covered everything yet. Uh dragon ground control room does look pretty pretty cool Uh, I will dig into that at some point. I'll it's on my list. I've got to get around to it Uh, thanks for stopping by great to see you again in here and uh, yeah, hope to catch up again Soon so that is about it in terms of the the uh, the road caster and we've digressed a little bit If anyone's got any final questions or anything like that related to the road caster, do let me know Um, otherwise what I'll do is I shall For a road caster content obviously coming imminently I've got a few other little videos that are planned as well I should also just mention that if you are interested in learning more about the road caster pro 2 Then you may want to check out the the road caster pro 2 master class Which is available On my website and I shall probably just pull that up That basically covers everything from beginner through to advanced level of the road caster and goes into detail about like advanced audio processing and stuff like that So over a hundred videos in there This at the moment is obviously beta software that we look at i'll beat a firmware as soon as it makes it into the final You know a real firmware update if you like, what do they call it? You know a final update Then the content in the road caster pro 2 master class will be updated as well Because it does stay up to date with all the latest firmware and that the one that I think is the biggest sort of Use of this course and the reason why I created it is I see so many people who don't really understand the audio processing side of things And so I do have a whole section there Which is on advanced audio processing where I go into things like, you know, what is compression and Uh noise gates and what do all of those different? Parameters mean so when you go into the advanced section of the audio processing, you know You'll see see things like attack delay and all of those. I think a lot of people That are maybe just you know new to road casters new to audio They don't necessarily know what those things mean And so we're not sure how to tweak those to get the best results and it seems like, you know This is such a powerful device To not understand how to use some of these advanced features Is something that I think potentially, you know, is an area where people Would like to learn more and certainly that's my motivation for sort of creating this course So you can find that out at roadcaster masterclass.com and find more details about it there And yeah, that is just something if you're interested in learning more about roadcaster I mentioned this in my previous video and somebody I got a little bit upset that I I put an advert for one of my own products in my own video. How shocking is that? But YouTube is after all a platform built on on advertising And so I just choose to advertise some of my own products from time to time But hopefully you get value from all of the free videos on my channel as well But I left it till right to the end today Thank you to everybody for stopping by and great to catch you all here Much appreciated. Thanks, Bicky. Thanks, Steve. Great to see you here Thanks to everyone else for stopping by and I will catch you all Next time and in the meantime for those that are watching on the replay I'll leave a link to some of my other roadcaster videos over on the right hand side And I just want to say a big thank you to all of my channel members For your ongoing support I really appreciate each and every one of you and to everyone that comes and just hangs out watches last questions See you next time