ttributes is a listing of attributes and the credential definition contains the DID of the issuer, who will be using that credential definition, and the public values of the keys to issue the credential ultimately. So it's it's through the credit depth as opposed to the schema that we're actually able to perform verification later on using the ledger as the source of truth for those keys. Another question that has come up. How does the requester view the credential issuance if it's not viewable in the ledger. I'm not exactly sure which party you're referring to when you say requester. But I will say, so did come as a peer to peer interaction already establishes that there is a clean and secure communication channel between two parties. So all information is transmitted over that channel. It is then the responsibility of the recipient of the credential to make sure that they correctly store that credential in their wallet for future use. And then if the issuer would like to keep track of some data about the issue of the credentials it's issued just for its own purposes. It is permitted to do so in that issuance process. So there's no external system no external database to these two parties that has any record of that though, since it takes place between the two. Okay, with that, I think we are ready to proceed on to the next step which is verifying presentations. So I'll turn it back to char. Great thanks Daniel. So now that we have issued a credential we can now practice verifying it. Whereas the issuer had to decide which credentials to issue whom the verifier must decide who and what to trust. And so to do that, they will interact with the holder. Read from the ledger perform cryptographic computations to verify that the attributes presented were issued by that specific issuer. One thing the issuer does not do is interact or one thing the verifier does not do is interact with issuer. So the verifier is only able to read the information written to the ledger by the issuer when the holder approves the verifier to do so. And so for the sake of simplicity and reducing the number of windows to navigate on a screen we're having Alice play the role of both the issuer and the verify in this demo. And roles are not set permanently between parties if the role is unique to the interaction. And so this works. This works just fine and it is also entirely possible that the issuer is the verifier. For example, if an employer issues an employee credential, they might want to verify that to identify the employee. I also just want to emphasize that the issuer and the verifier can be different entities who do not interact and cannot gather in for exchange information about the holder without the holders knowledge or consent. But they are able to trust each other, as Scott mentioned at the beginning of this workshop, because they write and read from the ledger. And so we will return again to this diagram, where we saw the steps for issuing a credential but now we'll move to the verifier side. And so first a presentation must be created. Whether the verifier requests presentation or the holder offers presentation, we're going to focus today on the verifier requesting presentation. And then upon receipt of the presentation the verifier reads the did schema and credential that mission from the ledger and verifies that to stations. Again, we will show the flow of messages necessary to verify a credential and again this is more of a developer friendly language than the way that people would normally talk about this interaction. We want to show what the message flow looks like. Finally, the holder can propose a presentation, which would trigger a presentation request message from the verifier, or if the verifier is initiating, they would start this interaction with the presentation request and then the message flow is the same regardless of who initiated. And so if the holder wants to approve this request they can do so and then send a presentation back to the verifier, then the verifier must verify the presentation and then they will send an acknowledgement back to the holder. Once they've sent their acknowledgement their set of your interaction is complete. And the holder receives the acknowledgement and the presentation interaction is complete. And so to verify a credential, we will have the verifier request a presentation from the holder and indicate which attributes from which credentials should be presented. So back to the toolbox where Alice is now acting as the verifier. We will navigate to the verification tab at the bottom left of Alice's interface. And we will choose to request a presentation, which brings up a window where we can choose the connection we will request a presentation from the holder Bob. We can add a name to the presentation and optionally add a comment. For example, we can add in the attributes that we want to verify, and then we can select the credential definition ID under restrictions if we want to say we don't want to verify the value of this attribute from just any credential, but only from this specific credential associated with this is this credential definition ID. If I go to the bank and need to verify my identity to access an account, the bank would likely accept if I presented a the name on my passport, but not the Duncan Donuts rewards card that Scott mentioned earlier. So for this simple example, we will just verify both of the attributes name and age from the specific credential definition that we created earlier. So we can create that verification request and now we see that this presentation was requested from Bob. So now on Bob's window, we can navigate to presentations and we see that is this presentation shows up under his list of presentations and in the same way that the issuer issues credentials from this credential issuance tab, and then the holder accesses them and holds them in the my credentials tab on the verification side of that the verifier uses the verifier tab to verify request verification and then those show up as presentations for the holder under the presentations tab. So before a live demo of verifying a credential will just talk about a few different types of presentations. So we have just shown the simplest example of a presentation which is called a full disclosure presentation in which all the attributes are revealed from one verifiable Another type of presentation is the multiple credentials presentation or the composite presentation in which all the attributes are revealed from two or more credentials because one single credential doesn't contain all of the required attributes. So this, this might occur when multiple specific identification documents are required like a passport and a piece of mail to your address. Let's see then selective disclosure is when only certain required attributes are revealed from one or more verifiable credentials. So instead of revealing the entire contents of a credential, you have the option to only reveal a subset of those attributes. And then a predicate proof presentation is when we only reveal a true or false value a common example is age the verifier does not need to know if you are 22 or 60 if it only matters that you are over 21 years of age so this is a great way of preserving privacy while verifying necessary information. And then lastly, revocation just been mentioned a bit a few times is the ability to revoke a credential. For example, if a credential expires or for whatever reason the holder is no longer eligible. So we will not be covering this today but I'll just briefly mentioned that revocation is supported by the Indie and non-cred standard and I spent significant work put into supporting it with an archive as well. So, with that I will pass it back to Daniel for a live demo of verifying a credential. Cool, thank you. Okay, so starting off again with our Alice and Bob agents. We've got Alice. Great, but Charlotte just described a moment ago. Alice was our issuer in our original exchange, but we're now going to switch roles and Alice will become a verifier. I've already said all of this, but the roles of a particular participant within an India non-crit system is dynamic.  But it is important to note that the fact that Alice issued the credential that we're about to verify is not significant in this exchange. Alice is still using the values written to the ledger to verify the presentation that Bob sensor. However, it's also valid to call out that Alice being both issuer and verifier is also a perfectly valid use case. In the context of, for example, if I am an employer and I issue a proof of employment credential to my employees, and then later when they come to the employee cafeteria if I want to offer them a discount based on proof of employment they can present their credential, proving such, and then give them a discount on their sandwich or whatever. Because I as an employer was both the issuer and verifier that was not instrumental in that exchange it actually helps decoupling systems within an organization I don't have to know what software issued that credential I just know how to need to know how to verify it later. Using the same decentralized route of trust in the form of the hyperledger and you distributed ledger. So with that discussion out of the way, reiterating some of what char said already will now go to the verification section on Alice and request a presentation from one of our connections. Let's go with Bob, and we'll put some name to this I'll just say test for now and since I've got only a very simple dummy credential to work with at the moment, you can optionally add a comment. Now ask Bob to reveal some attributes about himself and name and age. I'm cherry picking these of course because I know Bob has those attributes and is in his wallet as issued by a verifiable credential. So now I'll go ahead and hit confirm. And in just a moment, we see the presentation in its final completed state verified with the verification coming back as true. We can also see the attributes that were revealed as a part of that verification process, which in this case was the name of Bob, and the age of 42. Oh, I think this is pretty obvious but just in case it isn't the verified of true is a cryptographic verification. It does not necessarily mean that these values meet some other business logic determined threshold or requirements about these verified attributes. Layering up above occupy, we would take this verified status of true and then combined with the revealed attributes determine whether we want to proceed and whatever other business process that we were in the middle of engaging in with this. Our other connection. You can also explore in a little bit more detail what's going on under the covers. So we see the presentation request. Let me, let me pull up this diagram for a refresher of the process that took place between the two though. So Alice was the verifier over here, Bob was the holder. We began with a presentation request as opposed to Alice beginning with a presentation proposal. So the request was sent to Bob, and Bob, whose agent is currently configured to automatically approve any presentation request approved it automatically and then sent the presentation, the verifier then verified it and then sent it and acknowledgement back to Bob, entering complete state for both of the parties. So in a typical exchange this would again be something that would either be decision made based off of a business process. The business rules automation system or whatever might also be defined by a machine readable governance framework, which verifiers we're willing to present what information to might be something that is well defined within your legal jurisdiction. Or it can just be left up to the user directly. This connection would like to see the these attributes about you are you okay with that. You can have the ability to select which credential credentials to supply the attributes from if there are multiple credentials in their wallet, fulfilling the same attributes. So after deciding that process deciding which credentials to use in that process, the holder since the presentation and the verifier checks it. So we should be able to see evidence of each of those steps in this object so we see our presentation request. We see our requested attributes here name and age, I said those backwards there. We could have supplied some restrictions, you can say that it must be from a certain credential definition ID or a certain schema, or a certain issuer, which is more or less the same as a credential definition ID, but same difference. We can also see that we did not request any predicates. We see some occupy specific things. We see the actual message that was sent as the presentation request here. So this is the format that it takes. Not quite over the wire since this would be encrypted, but as delivered from Alice the Bob at least. And then it is a present proof one that request presentation with an attached request presentations object. And this is a generic way of stepping credential system specific data from verifier to holder in order to communicate the credential system pieces. So in the case of India non credits that was of course, you know specifically which requested attributes, in which predicates a w3c credential system wouldn't look quite the same there, of course. Then we can also see the presentation that was sent back from Bob. We see the raw value of the revealed attribute as well as the encoded value this was the value that was actually used in the cryptographic verification process. And the age with its encoded value since it was an integer value already. It remained an integer value. And then there's also opportunities for doing cells with tested attributes and occupies support for credentialing and predicates. We also have some unique identifiers here. This is not the complete set of the presentation. There are incredibly large arrays of numbers that are actually omitted from this data structure so this is not perfectly representative of what data is sent back between the two buffer peruse ability at least this is the information that's included at this point. The attributes are the key attribute that are missing from this data structure, which again are pretty large sets of numbers with attributes associated with them to determine how they should be used in the cryptographic verification process. To briefly call out a question that was answered in chat already. And then the graphic solution is being used. So, indeed, a non creds takes advantage of the, let's see if I can get the name right, can manage the, I forgot the L already. Sorry, whoever L that was and who came up with that signature scheme, but there are more details in the handout. The specifics of that CL signature suite. If you want to dig into that crypto that's your cup of tea. There's also more details on the India non creds specification at large within the within the handout. There is a push on going for the ability to use different signatures within a non creds. That's pretty early on. It's just a twinkle in somebody's eye at this point honestly. But we anticipate that bbs plus signatures should be able to support the same level of functionality that CL signatures are supporting. And thanks for the person that put the full definition of CL in there. Okay, I see a question here. How did Bob confirm the presentation request. Yes, I should call that out so I described the process where Bob would approve which attributes were revealed to the requester. For the sake of simplicity within the toolbox and within this demonstration that part has been automated out. So it just took place in the background without any intervention on our part. But within the admin protocols used by the toolbox. There is actually a mechanism for determining which credentials we would like to use and sending it on to the plugin. The toolbox itself is just assisting and automating that process. Believe even if we check our message list. I apologize for the background noise there's a yard work going on out right outside my window so hopefully that's not picking up to clearly on my mic. I feel too bad we can't hear good. I might have clicked away too frequently for it to be visible here. But on receipt of a presentation request, the toolbox plugin will send a message to the toolbox saying a presentation request was sent in. It's requesting these attributes. These are the credentials that would fulfill these attributes and gives them the opportunity to select which ones. So, but as I said, the toolbox does not currently have a UI to expose that functionality right now. Cool. Now I'd like to step through a couple more interesting scenarios when it comes to credentials and presentations. So we've issued this really basic credential. I should go to the credential issuance and look at there with just a name and an age to Bob with age of 42. So I'm going to add another schema and credential definition to the next year. So going off of my employee cafeteria example from before I'm going to go with employment potentially. And at the same time as I'm typing this out also called out that schemas are separated objects from credential definitions for more than one reason, but one of those is reusability of schemas. So within a governance framework, it might already be well defined what attributes we expect to be presented in certain contexts. So a machine readable governance framework might include the schemas that we are willing to accept credentials from and accept presentations from and it's really noisy. I'm sorry. So, while I'm coming up with a new schema for employment. It is certainly possible and maybe even likely that within a certain legal jurisdiction there's already a well defined set and instead of creating a new one, I should go and reuse one that's already available on the ledger. So I'm going to create one and say, I won't include name, just for the sake of demonstration but I'll say data hire and add another attribute and say, access level, I guess, if they've got a specific security clearance. What else should I include on here. I'll keep it simple and keep it to those two attributes for now. So go ahead and create that schema. And then create a new credential definition from that schema. Again takes a hot second as it performs that key generation in the background here. Also writes to the ledger which is a not instantaneous process I suppose. And there's our credential definition and we see the attributes data fire and access level. So now go ahead and issue the credential to Bob, using that employment credit def ID. This form is automatically populated with the attributes that we need to give as part of that credential definition. Add a comment here of proof of employment or the heck of it. And say data fire is, I don't know 2020 January 1. Good question in the chat. Can you edit schemas or just create new ones with another version. And the answer that came back is correct. You would just create a new schema with a new version. So the schema will remain on the ledger and remain in use and it kind of becomes a business policy decision to say, whether you should be using one versus another, or governance decision as well. Continue with my credentials here saying access level is basic. And our credential is now issued to Bob at least from our perspective on Alice here. And we see the attributes that were issued our data fire and access level basic. If I go to my credentials on Bob. I see the new credential has been received from Alice and see those same attributes. I realized now I didn't explore at all previously what values are returned in this JSON structure here. So that might be of interest you can see in the raw credential attribute we see the schema ID and credit ID. We see the values with their encoded representations. And we see signatures that were used to sign those attributes. Honestly couldn't tell you exactly what all of these different attributes are. That's above my head. But these are pretty well defined in the non cred specification. And then there's a signature correctness proof as well. Let's see if there's anything else interesting look at in this data structure we got the credential request metadata, which has a master secret associated with it. That's an interesting one. So I alluded to the concept of private folder binding previously. In the non cred credentialing system. There is a master secret associated with a holder of credentials. That master secret is blinded and presented to the issuer of the credential in order to issue a credential specifically bound to the owner of that secret. And this is what we use in order to say that this credential over here and this credential over here. And this will actually be crucial in the next steps that we're going to go through our verification process. As a result of now having multiple credentials to prevent present attributes from. So if I go to verification on Alice. And I'm going to create a new presentation request for Bob and say, This is the proof for the employee discount in the cafeteria. I won't add a comment I guess I'll just leave it as simple as that and then I'll say, give me your name and give me your date of hire. And it must be from this specific employment credential that I issued earlier. I can add that restriction, or otherwise it would be up to the holder of the credentials, if they had another credential with a date of hire and it to swap it out for that one so we want to add that restriction here. So then I go and hit confirm. And we see the proof pop up and we get the check mark meaning that it verified as true and completed successfully. So we're able to see that Bob has data hire of January 1 2021 or 2020 rather, and his name is Bob. So we're good to go ahead and give him that employee discount for a sandwich. So we just use two different credentials and as I was talking about have strong guarantees that those were issued to the same individual. They came from different credentials. We've, we've got that cryptographic assurance taken care of. And if I can view the same presentation from the other side as well. So that's one interesting capability of the non cred system. That has been discussed in the W3 CJ son LD credentials context, but has not yet come to fruition in any implementation that I'm aware of. So the BBS plus as a signature suite supports the sort of functionality. So in theory, using BBS plus signatures and W3 C credential format, you could accomplish a similar outcome. But the Indian on credits has that all built in and is quite mature and it's implementation of doing so. Let's do one more verification, or at least one more, maybe I'll do another one after this will see. And now we're going to demonstrate predicate proofs here. So this time I will say, and Sam has clarified. In the chat that BBS plus allows for selective attribute disclosure, but does not have built into it predicate the ability to do predicate proofs using zero knowledge proofs. Blinded holder binding. I'm not sure if that's actually accurate or not Sam but I'll defer to Sam on that one and say that he's probably right. Okay, so we're going to request a predicate proof from Bob for his age greater than or equal to 21. So that Bob can buy some age restricted product. I like that terminology that Scott was using earlier so I'm going to steal that. And we're going to say that it's going to be a requirement to be from this credential, as a stand in for being perhaps a government issued ID from, you know, be as a driver's license or some other issuer that we're willing to trust to have verified that age accurately. We don't want it to be just any credential as char was pointing out. We don't really care honestly if Duncan donuts thinks you're above the age of 21, we want to know that the DMV or the government has gone through the vetting process of making sure you're above that age. So I'll hit confirm on that credential. And we see that it has also verified is true. We see the predicate of age greater than or equal to 21. So we are comfortable going ahead with saying Bob is able to purchase this product or whatever. So there's a couple of questions that came up in the chat, blinded holder binding and what is meant by that. So blinded holder binding is is the process I just described in the Indian non cred system, where there is a secret, which is used to help correlate that two credentials were issued to the same individual. The blinded aspect of it being that that secret is never, of course, given out and it's unblinded forms any other party because it's a secret. So it just helps with the ability to determine that that scenario to credentials to the same individual. I've repeated those same words multiple times so if that didn't come out any more clearly. Feel free to ask more clarifying questions in the chat and I'll give somebody else an opportunity to do a better job. If Alice weren't the issue or two could restrictions show the credential that missions. That's a good question in the UI. So if Alice was not the original issue of the credential. The UI is currently structured such that if we want to impose one of those restrictions we need to know about the credit ID already. So in the credentials tab, and this is something we haven't used yet here, but there is a mechanism for retrieving. That's a schema. I need to go to this one to actually under my credentials. I'm going to go ahead and click for the bait and switch there. And we have the ability to retrieve a credential definition here. Probably not ideal placement in terms of UI. But if I go to Indie scan, for example, and I grabbed the most recent schema, or rather, let's see where, yeah, employment. That's one I just issued. Let's go with membership. And go in here and then I take the credit ID and then paste it in there and say retrieve. I haven't done this process recently so I hope it works. It did. Okay. Good to know. So we see that it has the level and date. And then within the verification tab, we can, oops, on requesting an attribute, we can use that credit ID. So that process that I just went through is more or less a manual discovery process for already out there credential definition IDs. And I think it's more common that instead we would see those be included in a governance framework as being well known values for a given credential, such as a driver's license credential from the government having jurisdiction in that whatever area you're in. So yeah, there's better systems than just using any scan, but any scan is a good analog for us to manually retrieve that data and use it in the toolbox. I believe that about concludes all of the hands on portion that we had planned for today. Unless there are any more questions that people would like to have answered I'll leave just a minute or two to see if anything comes in in the chat. And thank you Sam for further clarification on on the blinded holder binding. Okay, a couple of questions. Unfortunate scenario of rocket chat not being not working and couldn't establish connections between agents. Hopefully rocket chat works eventually, but you're also welcome to contact us at in DCO if you'd like some assistance working through these. And we can provide some basic support at least and help you get through the demo on your own. Another question that came in here is mediation part working in the toolbox. That's an excellent question so mediation. This was added to the toolbox at the same time as it was being developed for the areas cloud agent Python code base. So these two sections allow us to request mediation from one of our connections from both the toolbox and the connected agents perspective. So I could using this tab, say request mediation from Alice and if Alice was a mediator agent, then my toolbox instance within start using Alice as the mediator of its connections. I'll be honest and say that I haven't tested this recently. So there might be some minor issues to resolve there. But last I checked it was working. So hopefully it is still the routing section here then allows us to from a, a mediation client perspective view which of our connections have mediation associated with them which of our keys have we sent off to a mediator for purposes. Oh, this is where we would actually request mediation from a connection. I misspoke earlier. Apologies for that. Mediation is a pretty detailed, I'll say, and nuanced interaction as well. We had a DCO have done trainings in the past on mediation before we might have done a couple meetup events that might have recordings out there, not sure. Let's go back and see if there's anything that we can share potentially there. There's also some documentation on mediation within the areas cloud agent Python repository as well, or you can read up a little bit more and what capabilities are present in which capabilities are not. Let's see which one down. So next one down is so transaction ID equals credential definition ID. Let's go back to the end scan and take a look here. So in this case. I'm not sure I'm, I'm 100% certain on this one. Lynn, do you think you could step in and help clarify this one so is the transaction ID is the same as the credit ID is that a universally the case thing or is it possible for these two values to differ. That is a good question. I am not 100% sure but that's what it looks like to me right now I can look that up and get back to you. So, yeah, that's, that's my understanding as well. The transaction and the credential definition itself are closely tied as identifiers for that transaction. So, that appears to be the case but I can't say that I've got that knowledge in the forefront of my mind to say for sure. Let's see other questions can you give us some info about the mediator. I might come back to that. I did allude to some more resources there hopefully that is a good location to get some more info there. Can you walk through the parameters in the end scan please. I'm again not the expert on indie scan so I'll let Lynn correct me at any point here, but these filters at the top here corresponds to the transaction types that are possible on an indie network. So NIMM corresponds to the writing of a DID to the indie network NIMM is kind of an antiquated term originally meant was short for very NIMM. So hyper ledger indie as a decentralized identity solution that actually predates the W3C did specification uses some different terminology in a few different places. So NIMM is DID writes a trip are more or less arbitrary metadata that you can associate with a NIMM. This was a precursor to the document. Again, given the historical background there. Again, as it predated the did spec schema of course corresponds to schema transactions claim death. This again. Bit of a historical context thing here to claims used to be referred to, or excuse me credentials used to be referred to as claims. That was even persistent in the W3C space for a while before they switch to the term credential. The entry definition is a definition of our application registry this contains the remote URL for the tail server that is responsible for hosting tails files for recipients of revocable credentials. This is again kind of another can of worms that we don't really have time to get into today. So I'll leave it there for now revocation registry entry. I believe I use the term delta to refer to this in a chat message previously. This is an update to a tails file that is obtainable from a remote tail server. So by taking the original tails file and replaying all the revocation registry entries, we get an updated list of what credential identifiers are within the set and whether they've been revoked or not. And that kind of gets into the weeds a little bit on revocation. Some more details can be found in the handout for links to info there set context I'm not actually sure what that one is. So I couldn't tell you. I'm actually sure what that one is either but I will add a little bit here. So in the course of our training today, the updates to indie scan have been as much as 15 minutes behind. And the reason for that is because indie scan has some settings in it that make it so that it, it doesn't cause. A lot of traffic on the ledger it just pulls a couple of transactions at a time and so it's been regularly updating throughout the course of people adding a bunch on but it does get behind I think it's about four minutes behind right now just kind of gradually updates itself and just a few transactions at a time. So apologies for it not being so quick but that's because it doesn't because we don't want it to have an impact on the response time of the ledger so Cool. Thanks Lynn. There's been a little bit of back and forth in the chat. I think Sam's done a good job of addressing that one and again I think we're at a point where we should just be linking to some more resources for you as we wrap up here. On the topic of mediators and DCO does run a public mediator that you can use for development purposes, kind of as a, you know, reduce barrier to entry for developing a mobile agent. I will obtain a link to that to that and drop it in the chat while we proceed on to our next section.  And then I think it'll go to Sam, or maybe I'm going directly to Sam one of the two. I apologize that I jumped the queue. I think you're good to go go ahead. Okay. So the for the last section here we want to talk about community engagement and how to how to get involved in the community or both receive help and contribute effort to the, to the things that are available and so that's what that's what I'm talking about in this final segment and I realized that we're within 20 minutes at the end of the training. I will try to make this useful and brief as part of that. I'm talking about this, because I've got a bunch of experience doing this. Daniel and I were both around before Aries was Aries. And so we've been involved there. I'm still a co chair of the hyper ledger Aries working group here within hyper ledger. I'm also the co chair of the diff did come working group and I'll talk that about that in a minute. This right here is the avatar that you'll see on all the places and that and I'm telegram salmon most of them. And so if you see me on GitHub, or on Twitter or something else, please reach out. I'm an architect for and so I'm involved in the community I'm involved with lots of customers and helping guide them to appropriately apply the solutions that this space offers. The reasons to engage. There's a lot of there's a lot of reasons to engage and the, I'm not going to read the slide here. But the, the point that I want to to mention is that there's various levels of engagement here. You can jump into help you can jump in. There's lots of people who who joined the community to kind of lurk and listen. And sometimes it's a long time or never before they, they either, you know, mentioned something in a meeting or comment on an issue and that's okay. There's any level of engagement that you're comfortable with is the level of engagement that will work better for you, but engaging with the community is a great way to to learn it to help and support. And there's a handful of different organizations that relate to areas. The most obvious one of course is the hyper ledger foundation that's where the areas project is. We've also talked a lot about Indie and we've engaged that in our examples today. Aries works with lots of ledgers and strives to work with even more. And he is one of them and that's sort of historically what Aries was born out of the other project to mention here is hyper ledger Ursa, which also came out of Indie is a cryptography library that Aries and Indie both use, but is also spun out and available as a separate project. Hyper ledger has been a fantastic place for these projects to live and has has been amazing in their support of the efforts that have have gone into these projects so very grateful there. Another organization to be aware of is the decentralized identity foundation. They, they support a number of efforts that did come working group is the one that I am the most involved with. In the areas community we developed what came to be known as did calm v one, and there was enough interest from outside of the Aries project that we can. There's a lot of interest in other folks that wanted to be engaged with did come and so we are have been working for the last couple of years for the next version of did calm did calm v2 over there, and expect this to be a great year for the progress and finalization of that spec itself. It's very similar, but some important changes that both improve the protocol generally and make it more usable by a larger community. There's other working groups there there's an identify identifiers and discovery working group and a claims and credentials those those all sound like very similar things. A side tree is a technology that was that was organized there. And this can all be founded identity foundation is where their site is and where you can find additional information. These working groups all have regular meetings and slides and all sorts of stuff like that. The decentralized identity foundation does have a different membership model than hyper ledger but, but for small companies or individuals and there's a streamlined process, which makes it easy to get involved. Another useful organization in the space is is the trust over IP foundation. Here is their logo and they're in their, their uri. They've been done some really cool things they focus on governance, and one of the thing projects they've been involved with is the good health pass initiative. Linked here and we'll have these slides later is they have a really cool layer model of the trust layer that showed up in an earlier slide at the very beginning of our training today. And so that's worth exploring as well.  The W3C communities credentials group. And Can you see my slides. Sorry. Yep. Okay. So the W3C CCG is what it's commonly called. Oh, we've got some folks that can see them and some folks that can't. I apologize. I don't know what zoom is doing. I hope we can find a resolution to that. I can see. Okay, the, the CCG has been involved in two important things one is the W3C credential format. And the other one is the is the did core spec that of course we rely on. So the CCG is available there as well. So these are the communities that you may want to get involved with or that relate peripherally to the areas work and and where you can find them. So when you engage with a with the community often a bunch of the work is done in working groups, working groups communicate typically via some sort of chat like Slack or rocket chat. There's always an email list, and there are regular working group calls that you can join or listen to the recordings for the calls within. This is very true of hyper ledger and also true of most other organizations. There's an antitrust policy and a code of conduct. I don't mean to imply that they only apply to the calls they apply to all of the interactions of the working group. The groups are formed of people typically that represent companies, although sometimes individuals that are in competition with each other, and, and find that that it is worth engaging in and standardizing and working together on some aspects of their business so we call that co So here's the basic rules we don't we don't discuss business deals we don't discuss any sort of pricing in those calls and just focus on the technology projects itself. The code of conduct is also very important. Bill and Ted said it really well we need to be excellent to each other. There's the code of conduct also contains policies and procedures to resolve any issues that do come up. And I'll have more to say about that in a minute. There are very common ways of doing that they almost always have meeting agendas topics are being the, the chair of several of these working groups topics are almost always welcome. Even if they're, even if they can't be put on the schedule for the next week or that they'll, they'll almost always accepted meetings have different ways of sort of volunteering sometimes the zoom hands feature or just speaking up as good. Sometimes with larger meetings you need some more formal interactions and so sometimes they use the chat as a formal queue. So you can sort of get in line to speak. And it's a great way to ask a comment if you don't understand like how you, you know, ask permission to speak up then dropping a note in the chat is an easy way to do that during the live meeting. The calendars are usually published by the organizations that host them so hyper ledger has a calendar for example, and the diff also has a calendar. It's usually found in the repositories associated with the working groups and or associated wikis or on the agenda, and a little bit of googling turns these up pretty fast. The meetings are often recorded which is super handy when you can't be available there. It's also really handy when you want to watch, if you watch in a player. The C is one that usually will play the format that they're recorded in, and you can watch them in faster than real time which is helpful to when you need to catch up on meetings. They're usually posted if you don't see where they are then go ahead and ask, and they will help you with that. GitHub repositories are very commonly involved whether they're code or whether there's other sorts of documents that are created. There's almost always a read me that contains useful information. It's also worth being familiar with the issues in the repository active pull requests. And you can also of course browse the commit history because it is a GitHub repository to see kind of what kinds of actions and who in the community is involved. You can contribute your code. There's a couple of quick tips here you need to mind the code license that is in the repository to make sure that you understand it and that you are capable of committing that you typically work on a fork of the repository, and then submit a pull request for that. And the developer certificate of origin DCO, you can Google that up for specifics as well as commonly required for these repositories. And that helps with some legal issues surrounding the code. This is, this is important. And I want to spend a minute on this. We need you in the community. We realize that everyone is busy but if there's time or this lines up with with the goals of your employer or personally, we would welcome your contribution here. I typically invite you if everyone in the meeting that you join seems to come from a different background than you do. We need your perspective we need your experience. We need you to help us understand things better and produce a better project. Please be persistent with your contributions. Sometimes there's rules that are that are a little bit frustrating to, you know about different types of reviews that are required or other things, but please be persistent with that. The general request here is that we're all human. You know the this is the focus is on software but we're all humans making it happen and we all have different stresses in life and not everyone is in a perfect place all the time. If someone is a little bit short with you or or a little bit impatient or something then then please be a little bit patient with them and the stresses that they have. But here's the big but don't put up with bad behavior. If there are, if there are things that are unacceptable particularly because of the code of conduct of the community. That's not the type of thing that we that we ought to put up with. If there are things happening in meetings or comments being made or or other sorts of things that make you feel unwelcome. Please, if I beg you, please engage and try to help us solve those issues. Before you leave, obviously this is fully voluntary. These sorts of issues I seem to be relatively rare, and I'm glad for that. But I want to make sure that anytime something does actually come up that we improve our community rather than then drive people away. That's what we do. And we hope that you will find the time professionally or personally to engage in the in the products there are the projects that are important that you're interacting with the community happens because of volunteers and and makes that work forward and that's how we have great things like areas as a project and India as a project and the all these other efforts that are happening in various organizations. I hope that came across as a quick guideline and a plea to be involved. We are grateful that you're interested in this training at all and that we're here. Again, this is me. I didn't. This is a slightly better updated screen here. If I can help you with anything as it relates to the community or anything that we've talked about today. Please do reach out. If you have any email address at in DCO, or you can reach out on on any of the other platforms that I'm engaged in the same goes for all of the in DCO team, if there's a way that we can help point you to resources, help you get past something or know who to ask, please do reach out and we would love to help you. We've heard from a bunch of really knowledgeable people today. And with, with all the things they presented a Daniel and char took a huge chunk of the technical presentation, Linda to fantastic job with the networks and Scott with the introduction and the terms and the overview and the orientation to the concept and so we are all available. James has his email that he's just reached in the chat and you can reach all of us. We're glad you came. And we're and we hope that you learned stuff today and that this was useful. And, and we're glad that glad that you are here.


Listen to Herbert Marshall as the man called X. Wherever there is mystery, adventure, intrigue, in all the strange and dangerous places of the world, there you will find the man called X. Bill Thompson. That's not important now, Ken. What is? I'm in a mess, and I don't know what to do. Can you get over to my house right away? I'm right up to my neck in the filthiest game that's ever been played. It's a job for you and the Bureau. I'm sorry, Mr. Thurston. That's exactly what happened. I didn't even know Bill had come home yet. I was in the living room with Mr. Connors here waiting for him. We heard the shots in the den. We rushed in and we found him. Easy Nancy, easy. Any idea why he was killed, Mrs. Thompson? No, Mr. Thurston, I swear. There was no reason, Thurston. There couldn't have been. Bill Thompson didn't have an enemy in the world. Jim's right. It just doesn't make sense. Of course it doesn't. Bill just back from Korea, a wonderful new job. We were so happy. And then this... What was this new job? Well, he was working for a man named Weaver, George Weaver, selling stocks and bonds. That's right. Weaver Investment Company. They put Bill on as a customer's man, paid him a healthy salary plus commission. It was a good deal. You must have been pretty close to Bill's and know all these things about him, Connors. I was. Did you work with him at Weaver's? No. We got to know each other pretty well between Pusan and Heartbreak Ridge. So he gets through all that and then comes home to this. Yeah. Well, thanks for your trouble, Mrs. Thompson. I won't bother you anymore right now. Well, what are you going to do now, Mr. Thurston? Try to answer a couple of your questions. My questions? Who killed your husband? And why? All looking for someone? I'd like to see Mr. Weaver.  When are you expecting? That's kind of hard to say. He don't hardly ever keep what you might call regular office hours. I'm Mary Jane. Mary Jane Walters, that is. Can't I do something for you? Maybe you can, Miss Walters. I'm looking for some information about investments. Tell me, what kind of securities do you handle here? Well, nothing but the best, honey. Stocks and bonds and things like that. Did you want it? Well, now for heaven's sake, what you all expect that is? Mice in the wall? Oh, sure. There you go. Much as I hate to do it here. Let me get that gag out of it. There you are. Boy, that's better. There you go. What the devil's going on here? What happened to you? It was the dame that did it, Mr. Thurston. What dame?  Gun in her... Now you went and done it to Mr. Thurston, too. Well, sure enough, sugar, I reckon I did. So as I can get on about my business. What kind of business? Well, I got a little old job to do, sugar. Murder. How are you doing with those ropes anyways, Mr. X? I'll be rid of them in a minute. Your girlfriend's handling it with a gun, and she is with knocks. That female I need joke laid, no friend of mine, Mr. X. Then maybe you better explain what you're doing here. Sinch. You didn't want my invaluable assistance here in San Francisco, so when I bumped into that Bill Thompson friend of yours, I took a job with him. Bill Thompson? So that's how he knew I was in town. Oh, sure. Anyway, he asked me to watch the office here for him to let him know when that Mr. Weaver showed up. When did he show up? He didn't. Nobody but that Mary Jane Cookie. And when I made a pass at... I mean, when I asked her what she wanted, she conked me. All right, Peter.  You've got work to do. Work? What kind of work? Finding Mary Jane Walters. Finding George Weaver. Maybe finding murder. Well, that George Weaver ain't home, Mr. X. So let's go. So get out your knife and pick the lock. Oh, Mr. X, what kind of talk is this? Go on, open it. Okay, okay, okay. You know, but this is against the law or something. So is murder. Now what? We go in. See? What did I tell you? Nobody home. Take another look. Mr. X. Yeah. Who? Who is it then? He was George Weaver? That's my guess. Y'all know George Weaver, honey? Y'all right? Well, so we meet again, Miss Walters. Why'd you kill him? Now, honey, laugh. Y'all don't really believe that I'd do anything like that, do you? I found him like that when I came here to collect the money. What money? Why, the money Y'all and Mr. Weaver stole off in my poor, widowed sister. Now, suppose you would tell us just how we stole that money, Miss Walters? Y'all know right enough. Send her to that check after her husband Charlie got killed in courier. Using it as a come-on so she trusts you with the rest of her money. Yeah. Let me get this straight. After your sister learned that her husband had been killed in courier, she got a check from the Weaver Outfit, is that it? You know it. Telling that with some dividends on some investments he'd made before going overseas. Had he invested money with Weaver? Well, the check sure looked like it. And Bill Thompson said so too. Thompson? That's right. Showed up a couple of days later. Dished out a smooth line about how her husband wanted to set her up financially with more investments in case he was killed. Only didn't have time before he shipped out. Ah, the old story. Mailing a fake dividend check to a widow is a come-on so they could sell her a lot of phony stock. That's what happened, all right. Thompson and Weaver walked right off with the $10,000 she got from a GI insurance. Thirtiest racket in the world. Robbing the widows of men killed in courier. Stealing their last cent of insurance. Hey. I almost thought that friend of yours, Bill Thompson, was such a nice guy. He wasn't in on it. But you just said... They must have been using him. Frontman. When he found out what was going on, he called me on the phone and they killed him before he had a chance to talk. Who killed him? Weaver? Weaver's dead. Now there's somebody else mixed up in this. Mr. Big. And until we get him or her, well, we haven't stopped this dirty con game yet. Then what you're all fixing to do now? I don't know, Miss Walters. I just don't know. You're wasting your time. It's just a local racket. It'll blow over. What worked in San Francisco can work anywhere in the country, Chief. Let's me put a stop to it. Meanwhile, what about you? Stymied right now, aren't you? Not quite, Chief. I've still got a... Okay, I'll take it. Talk to you later, Chief. Right, Ken. Thanks. Hello? Mr. Jane Walters, can you get up to my sister's house right away? What's up, Miss Walters? Some man's been up there threatening her. Better come right away before you find yourself with another dead copes on your hands. I'm thicker than my cousin's Grisha's head. Is this trip really necessary, Mr. X? Why do you suppose we're making it, Pagon? Well, I can't even hardly see what you're driving. Nothing but that white fog in front. We could drive right off the mountain and not even... Woo-hoo! You see what I mean? We won't even know when we'll get to the joint. Mary Jane's at her sister's place has fog lanterns at either side of the driveway. We'll spot them easily enough. Oh, sure. Where are my eyes out looking for lights? And for what? Maybe just to run into somebody else with guns? Oh, quiet. Keep your eyes peeled. Yup. There are the lights now. So what? So we drive between them, park the car and see what's up with Mary Jane's sister. Hey, Mr. X, this ain't no driver. That's a cliff. A cliff! Hang on, Pagon! We'll return to the man called X in just a moment. Because of the increased birthrate during and since the war, an extra seven million children are going to be seeking an education. Right now, there are not enough classrooms or equipment or books, and above all, there aren't enough teachers. America will need almost a quarter million more elementary school teachers within the next seven years. This is to take care of the extra enrollment alone. It is over and above the hundreds of thousands of young teachers who will be required to fill normal vacancies. Today, more than ever before, teaching offers an attractive career for intelligent, imaginative young men and women who are attending college or high school. Teacher training courses are available to you students who wish to prepare yourselves, and millions of youngsters will be waiting for your services. The need for teachers has never been greater. The opportunities have never been finer. Now act two of the man called X starring Herbert Marshall with Leon Balasko as Pagan Zelchmit. The brutal murder of his friend Bill Thompson served as Ken's introduction to a vicious swindling racket, one whose victims are the widows of soldiers who have died fighting in Korea. Ken learns that one of those victims has been threatened, and he and Pagan drive through a blinding fog to her mountain home. But as the car turns in between two fog lanterns, supposedly marking the driveway, the road ends abruptly with a steep cliff, and before the car can be stopped, it lurches off the road. Pagan, you all right? He drives me over a cliff on top of a mountain. He wants to know if I'm all right. Well, that answers the question. And we didn't go over in a cliff. Huh? Oh, well then, you did see it. We only wound up in a ditch.  Boy, oh, look at the drop of Mr. X. That was a couple of feet. Oh, what happened to the driveway, anyways? Over there. Over there? But those fog lanterns said this was the place. How did the driveway get moved? It didn't. Somebody moved the lanterns. Easy as that. Oh, that's ridiculous. They could go people like that, having them drive right over the... Oh, Mr. X. My sister can't tell you nothing about those lanterns, Mr. Thurston. She just ain't here. Then what can you tell me about them, Mary Jane? Oh, you conners. Well, you can't prove anything by me, Thurston. The lanterns were beside the driveway when I drove up here. How long ago was that? About a half hour ago. Just driving around in the fog? Or do you make the habit of looking at the widows of soldiers killed overseas? Are you accusing me of something, Thurston? I'm looking for an explanation, conners. Now, there's no need for the two of you to get all riled up this way. I can explain everything. That'll be refreshing. My sister was too scared by those threats she got to stay around here. She left for the airport, heading back to dear old Georgia. So you waited for me instead? That's right. And conners? Miss Waller's called Nancy Thompson to see if she'd been threatened too. And to get your hotel number. I was there at the time and decided to drive out here to see if I could be of any help. Well, I trust you're all satisfied now, Mr. Thurston. About everything with the Lentons and those threats your sister got. Oh, there. Some dirty old skunk called her up on the telephone. Told her to keep her pretty mouth shut about her insurance money being taken or else. A man or a woman? Well, now, it might have been a man. Then again, it might have been a woman. My sister wasn't any too clear about that. There doesn't seem to be anything too clear about this whole setup. Well, as I can tell, Thurston, you're just running around in circles. If I am conners, I'm bound to wind up back where I started. With Bill Thompson. And his widow. I'm certain that I'm right, Mr. Thurston. There just wasn't anybody connected with the firm Bill worked for except Mr. Weaver. Hmm. Tell me Nancy, how did Bill get into the investment business with him? Oh, he met him at a veterans' organization. You see, Mr. Weaver was interested in Bill's former outfit. And then from then on, well, the next thing we knew Bill was working for him. It seemed like such a wonderful break for us at the time. And Bill was so pleased with the idea of being able to do something for the families of his buddies.  Wait a minute. Were most of Bill's customers the widows of men who served with him overseas? Well, yes.  Thanks, Nancy. Thanks? For what? Straightening out a circle for me. I'll get you a complete list of all the casualties in Bill Thompson's outfit, but what the devil you wanted for. Suppose you'll bring it out here in person, Chief. And I'll show you. That's right, Mrs. Richards. If you get any dividend checks in the mail, any phone calls or personal visits, please call me. You'll save yourself a lot of money and grief. That's right. And thanks for your time. Goodbye. Well, that's it, Chief. The last of them. You've left that same message with every woman whose son or husband was killed in Bill Thompson's outfit overseas? Well, everyone in the Bay Area, yes. Okay. Then where do we go from here? We don't, Chief. What? We wait. What for? For the person we're after to make the next move. Yes, of course I do, Mrs. Carson. It came in the mail this morning. I see. Good. Thanks for letting us know. We'll be right over. How about it, Ken? Is that it? Chief, Mrs. Soul Carson got a dividend check in the mail this morning. Who was it from? An outfit called the Thornburg Security Company. You never heard of them? No. But they're going to hear plenty from us. Everything's okay, Mr. Rex. I got this little dingles attached to behind it, but you're my call. Good, Peyton. What about you, Chief? All set here, Ken. This room's really wired for sound. Those microphones will pick up every whisper. Good. How do you feel about it, Nancy? Better to go ahead? You know I am, Mr. Thurston. There's nothing I wouldn't do to get the man responsible for Bill's death. That's one of the reasons I asked you to play the part of Mrs. Carson in the first place. Yes, I know. Well, what happens now? The man from the Thornburg Security Outfit made an appointment with Mrs. Carson over the phone for ten this morning. When he gets here, you're Mrs. Carson. I see. Play along with him. Let him sell you an investing with him. He'll arrange another appointment to take money from you. And you'll be recording it all in the next room? Every word. And when he shows up the second time? You'll give him the money. $10,000 in Mark Bill's. And then? We close in. Morning at the same time, Mrs. Carson. You will have the money ready in cash? Oh, yes, I'll have it ready, Mr. Thornburg. And thank you. Believe me, you'll never regret it. I know it'll turn out the way your husband wanted it. Yes, I'm sure of that, Mr. Thornburg. Bye. That's it, Ken. Act one. Ken, tomorrow, act two. Thank me for the rest of your life. Okay, Ken, we've got him. Let's move in. Hold it, Chief. But before he's taken the money, we've got the whole thing recorded. What do you want to wait for? I want him to get away. But Ken, oh no, please do as I say, Chief. By the time we're through, we'll wind this thing up for good. That Thornburg character isn't wasting any time getting wherever he's going. Mr. X, where is he going anyways? To pay off $10,000 to his boss. Hey, who's his boss? We'll find that out when we get there. Yes, yes! You mean if we ever get there? Trailing that character up these mountain roads ain't any joke. Make it easy. He's turning off the road now. Hey, that's right. He's going to get to that driver with the lanterns hung on the side. Lanterns? Mr. X? Yeah. We've been there before, Pager. $800, $900, $1,000. There it is. $10,000. Cash. Mrs. Saul Carson was a pushover. Yeah, okay. Now here's your cut. Thanks. Well, where do we go next? And whoever it is, I hope she's as easy a mark as that little brunette. Brunette? What brunette? Well, Mrs. Carson. If I ever saw a luscious, dark-haired baby, she was... Wait a minute, Thornberry. Are you telling me Mrs. Carson's a brunette? Well, sure. With blue eyes? Pretty as shade of blue you ever saw. Nancy Thompson. What? Saul Carson's wife was a blonde. That easy mark he used was Bill Thompson's widow. Come on, we got to get out of here. Wait a minute. I don't get it, Jim. What's this all about? Time for explanations later, Thornberry. Thurston. That's right. Looks like your racket's over, Connors. Oh, you did straighten out that circle. Sure, but Nancy's helped. She's the one who tipped me off about your sucker list. They were really pushers up for your con game. Hey, but where does that cute cookie Mary Jane fit in, Mr. Thurston? She doesn't, Pager. But this is her sister's room. Connors must have talked with her, letting him use it. Thought it might be safer headquarters for him when I was around. It's still safe, Thurston. Don't try it, Connors. Hold it there. You two, Thornberry. Okay. Okay. All right. All right, Thurston, you win. Oh, why didn't you really give it to him, Mr. X? That's all that no good deserves. No. No, you can't. I got to write the trial to the protection of the courts. Did you give Bill Thompson a trial? Did you rob the widows of your own buddies in the courts? Their husbands died to preserve the rights you're trying to crawl by now. And you holler for justice. Okay, Connors, you'll get what's coming to you. The American way. Due process of law. And now here's our star, Mr. Herbert Marshall. Thanks for being with us. And my thanks to Gene Tatum, Lillian Bayef, Will Wright, Paul Fees, and Byron Kane. The title of next week's show is The Clicking Buddha. Sounds almost cute, doesn't it? But the Clicking Buddha holds one of the most insidious weapons of destruction ever devised. Oh, and Leon Bolasque will be along as usual as Pagan Zelschmidt. So join us, won't you, when next I return as the man called X. Good night. A man called X starring Herbert Marshall is a J. Richard Kennedy production with music by Milton Charles. Tonight's story was written by Sydney Marshall. This program is directed by Jack Johnstone. All characters and incidents in this program are fictitious, and any resemblance to actual characters or incidents is purely coincidental. And now until next week, same time and station, this is Hellgipney saying good night for the man called X. This is NBC, the national broadcasting company.


Little did you all know, but for the past few weeks I've been performing a little bit of an experiment about parasocial relationships and I think there's a lot we can learn from the content cop that iDubbs did on Tanemojo. What is up everybody? This is Chris from the Rewired Soul where we talk about the problem but focus on the solution and if you're new to my channel, my channel is all about mental health and what I like to do is pull different topics from the YouTube community to try to teach you how to improve your mental and emotional well-being. So if you're into that stuff, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell, all right? And by the way, thank you all again for helping me get to 10,000 followers on Instagram. We have to swipe up. I would love to know in the comments. Has that made your life easier? Because it's made my life easier. I can just link you to stuff and you just swipe away. But anyways, I also get a lot of suggestions from all of you. I talk to a lot of you over on Twitter. So if you have Twitter, make sure you follow me over there at the Rewired Soul. Over there, I'm not looking for a swipe up feature, but if you want to get in touch with me, Twitter is a great place to do so because I don't have a huge following. So typically, I will see your tweets, all right? But anyways, like I mentioned in the intro, I've been doing a little experiment about parasocial relationships, all right? And I want to use what iDubb says in his content cop about Tanimojo right here. Either all of them are okay or none of them are okay. But if you try to come online and tell me that I can't say a particular word. No, no, I'm half black. So the context in which iDubb said this, I'm not going to dive into that. That's for another channel, all right? But anyways, I do appreciate the fact that he's bringing up some critical thinking, all right? A massive part of mental health for me, and I hope it is for others, is to question your thoughts, right? One of the biggest issues that we have is that we believe every single thought that we have. Something that, you know, mindfulness teaches us is that we need to get curious, okay? We need to get curious about the thoughts that come up in our heads. And we got to think, okay, why do I think this way and not that way? All right? So let me explain the little experiment that I've been doing. All right, so here's the experiment I've been doing. So as many of you rewired soldiers out there, no, I get a little bit of backlash for the type of content that I make, right? And it's really fascinating to me. So what I did was, because I wanted to see if I would get the same reaction if I talked about mainstream celebrities, okay? So recently in the past few weeks, I've made two videos about Millie Bobby Brown. I also included Drake. I also talked about the relationship between Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande, as well as Kanye West and Kim Kardashian. These are mainstream celebrities. So I want you to think about it. Now I'm not going to show all of the examples because I may get accused of cherry picking. So if you would like to validate my claims and see if I'm telling you the truth, I suggest that you go and do your own research. Check out the type of comments I get on videos like Tanimojo, Bobby Burns, Trisha Paytas, whoever it is. Check out those comments and then compare them to the comments that I get talking about mainstream celebrities. And you'll see two very different comments. For example, you'll see comments on YouTubers when I make videos using them as context to teach people lessons. You see comments saying, leave them alone. Quit making videos about them. Quit making videos for views. You're just trying to do this for views. But if you see me talking about the mainstream celebrities that I just mentioned, those comments are virtually non-existent. Now why is that? Why do you think that is? And I'm serious. Like I'm trying to figure this out, right? So parasocial relationships. What are those? Okay. These are the type of relationships that people have with celebrities. Okay? And as we're seeing in 2019 and for years now is that YouTubers are becoming the new celebrities. Don't believe me? You all saw what recently happened with James Charles in the UK. All right? 8,000 fans showed up to his meet and greet traffic throughout the city in England. Like what? What? And you also see people like James Charles, people like Keemstar, you know, and others out there wanting to be respected on the same level as celebrities. But at the same time, they don't want to be used in the same way that celebrities are. If you want an example, check out these headlines that I'm showing you on the screen right now. Why is it okay for us to discuss celebrities going to rehab, celebrities going to jail, abusive relationships, you know, in the news? Like why is that okay for us to talk about? But it's not okay for us to talk about YouTubers. Do you see what I mean? Like I want you to ask yourself that question. Why is that? And I have a theory. I have a theory. Okay? What I feel is happening. What I think is happening. And I want you guys to ask yourself this and leave me comments. What I feel is happening is when you're watching a YouTube video and you're watching it on your phone or you're watching it on your computer or you're watching it on your laptop and it's a person filming in their bedroom, right? Or they're vlogging or walking around town. You feel more of a personal relationship with them. You feel like this is your friend. Okay? Is this healthy or unhealthy? I don't know. I think there is an extent where it can get unhealthy. A prime example of this is what recently happened with the Dolan twins. Okay? You had fans trying to show up to these guys' father's funeral. Okay? So this is a parasocial relationship that can definitely get unhealthy. But when you see the defense that you get in with these YouTubers. So something that I also find interesting is like I've always looked at mental health and even when I was working at the Drug and Alcohol Treatment Center, I always look at it as education, right? Teaching people. My mom and I have talked about opening up an outpatient treatment center sometime in the future. And when I envision it, I always think that I wouldn't like it to be like a classroom, right? I would like people to have homework. I used to always tell my clients, like, I love when you ask questions because it shows me that you're paying attention and you're engaged and you're wondering.  And I love that. It shows me that you're paying attention. You see what I mean? So it's important that we learn from these things. So I kind of look at, you know, what I'm trying to do is kind of like history, right? So if you've ever taken a history class, you've probably had to write essays or reports or whatever the, you know, whatever it is, maybe done a presentation. But one of the most famous sayings about history out there is if we don't learn from history, we're doomed to repeat it. I'm probably screwing that quote up, but you know what I mean, right? Well, if we can't learn from what we're watching on YouTube or what we're watching on television or what we're seeing in movies, right, then maybe we're doomed to repeat it. If we're not taking these lessons and doing something with them and turning them into something of value, then we might be in trouble. All right? So the other thing that I want to talk about is, and maybe this, you know, is something more relevant to my age, but all of you around my age, I'm 33, you probably remember when the news was plastered every other week, it seemed like Lindsey Lohan was getting herself into some trouble. All right? She was a young child star and just spiraled out of control. All right? She was getting DUIs. And one of the most famous pictures of her was this one just being messed up. Now, if I made a YouTube video using this picture and explaining to people, you know, the dangers of becoming dependent on substances, how many people do you think would really leave a comment having an issue with me discussing Lindsey Lohan? But again, when I discuss a YouTuber, that's when the issue comes in. And again, like Idub said in his video about Tanimojo and his content cop, either all of them are okay or none of them are okay. The other theory that I have about this is that people think that it's not okay because the person might see it. All right? But where is that same empathy for mainstream celebrities? What if they see it? What if Millie Bobby Brown is on YouTube watching videos, right? What if Kanye West stumbled across my videos? I've seen YouTubers talk about being dehumanized, but do we dehumanize mainstream celebrities even more than we do YouTubers? All right? Now, don't get me wrong. I don't think that there's anything wrong with discussing what mainstream celebrities are doing. I don't think there's anything wrong with that because we use those as lessons. There are many studies that have been conducted discussing how people, young people especially, are being influenced by the people that they idolized in media. Okay? Now that we live in the age of YouTube, we really need to take that into consideration. If any of you watched my video about Shane Dawson and his cartoon conspiracy theory, I talked about social cognitive theory, right? And this is a learning theory about how people, especially young people, will emulate what they see. So my other question is, why is it okay to promote clearly toxic behavior on YouTube, but it's not okay to discuss how it's unhealthy, right? Like, I want you guys to think about this. Like, you guys, like something that I think people get twisted all the time, and some of you have heard me say this many times before, is that people think that mental health is talking about a lack of a mental illness. All right? Like when you talk about physical health, are you only saying that a person is healthy if they don't have a disease? No. Physical health means a lot of things. A lot of things. Is it how much you weigh? Is it the amount of muscle you have? Is it how you look? Right? It's all these things. So a person like myself might be completely devoid of any type of disease, but if you look at this chub I got on me, would you say that I'm healthy? Not entirely, even though I've been working on it, all right? So again, like I really want you to think about what I've said. Either all of them are okay or none of them are okay. So it's either all okay or none of it's okay. I want you to start asking yourself that. Why is it all right to talk about mainstream celebrities? Why is it okay to talk about them and teach people using them as an examples, but not YouTubers? Especially when YouTubers want to be held at the same level as these mainstream celebrities. All right? I want to see your comments down below about this topic because it's really fascinating to me and I actually have a collab coming up really soon where we're going to be talking about this even more. I'm going to be collabing with a YouTuber that I think you all know and you all love. All right? If you want to have fun in the comments, take a guess of who it is. Anyways, that's all I got for this video. If you like this video, please give it a thumbs up. If you're new, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell because I make a ton of videos and a huge, huge thank you to everybody supporting the channel over on Patreon. You are all amazing and I will be posting soon for the February Patreon Q&A, all right? If you would like to ask me questions and have me answer them, sign up for Patreon right there, all right? Thanks so much for watching. I'll see you next time.


go through the process and to see her talk to vendors about locations and photography it was really exciting so anyway and then today to a new grocery store chain we just heard about in the area called New Seasons Market and it's a sort of a combination of a traditional food grocery store and a organic food grocery store. They have some regular brands that you would find it like Safeway and then they have some organic brands pretty cool they also have your normal for an organic grocery store coffee bar they also have a wine and beer bar so you know it's interesting it was good I really liked it so anyway we went and did that and took a little drive around the area which I you've seen if you are watching this and yeah now we're just out here in the family room watching YouTube and hanging out and yeah complaining because the dog keeps farting and he's sticking up the house you know reality all right that's it for right now I'll be back it is Wednesday I believe it's November 21st I do know it's the day before Thanksgiving I've no idea lately if I've remembered a vlog every day and if I have if I've spoken during said footage I know I haven't edited last week's vlog yet but I'm hoping to get that done this afternoon and load it soon but it's been a crazy week what was getting ready for the holidays and we had a whirlwind title closure on our old house in California less than 10 days all cash offer but we're done and we're closed Mr. Bandit's not doing super well it's just been completely insane that's all I can say can you tell by the bags under my eyes I'm not sleeping anyway so we're getting ready for a family gathering at the new here at the new house in the Pacific Northwest which is going to be a lot of fun as you can tell by looking at the sky behind me I'm here I'm at the mailbox it is a beautiful gray overcast overcast cloudy rainy day but you know we're in the Pacific Northwest I actually like this weather a lot so I'm good with it anyway that's it for the moment I'm going to check the mail and then go inside and turn on the fireplace and maybe have a cup of tea I'll be back the HOA president and and my neighbor Julie uh who interrupted me ending out that clip but anyway I hope you all have a happy Thanksgiving and I'm going to go inside now and have a cup of tea I'm going to show you the view that's adjacent to my house though as you walk up to my driveway I don't want to show too much of the house because I love you all but you don't all need to be able to figure out where I live but yeah this is the view next to our house the protected woodland that's so cool right and down over here is the tree that I've mentioned before that big giant one it's approximately a thousand years old so cool anyway all right I'll be back morning everybody it is Thanksgiving day and we got the turkey in the oven and we're getting ready for family to come over for dinner I'll get footage if and when I can but above all I hope you all have a great one whether you celebrate Thanksgiving or not have a great day enjoy your family and yeah all right I'll be back happy black friday everybody are you out shopping sales I'm not intentionally avoiding the store not only because I just don't like the whole premise behind black friday particularly I don't really need anything I'm all for a good sale I just don't like the whole idea of making Christmas about things anyway speech giving aside we are just staying home and recovering from Thanksgiving yesterday it was really great fun I don't think I got any video clips or anything but if I get any still images from the family who I know all we're taking photos I'll insert them here somewhere there's also some footage I'll put in here somewhere of bob and bandit just both passed out on the couch or relaxing on the couch in the floor and we've just been puttering around the house we put up some Christmas decorations I'll also put some video of that in the vlog and mailing out Etsy orders and enjoying for me anyway enjoying the brisk sort of damp weather in the pacific northwest I actually like this weather asking me a few years from now I may have a different opinion but I actually like it at four I think it's easy for me to breathe so anyway that's it for the moment I'm going to check the mail I'll be back good morning everybody at least I think it's morning is it still morning there do we know it's 1104 it's a lot it's technically it's still morning we just got done doing some DIY repairs on the refrigerator I think we got it maybe the husband's pulling out a couple pieces of pie for himself and then we're going to get rid of the rest because people left way too much food here for just the two of us Mr. Bandit still hanging in there in the fireplace we're going to try to get him to lay over there instead of where he wants to lay which is right here he keeps getting stuck between the couch and the coffee table and yeah it's not good for him so we're going to try to get him to lay down over there anyway we're going to maybe be running some errands later but we're not doing too much exciting so just recovering from Thanksgiving still and hopefully booking some tickets for Christmas because we're going to go visit some family right before the holiday so anyway that's it for now we'll be back bargain shopping for the house we went to Habitat for Humanity Restore now we're at the Goodwill Outlet Store and I don't know where we're going to end up next but I'll let you know Goodwill Outlet Store if you need clothing or housewares fine they sell stuff by the pound be prepared to dig and bring a pair of gloves I've been in a lot of dirt right on to southeast it's not what you'd call clean anyway we are headed to the mall I think we're mall people I'm guessing so we're going to head that way so that was fun not we were literally around the corner from the house waiting at the stoplight to make a left turn with our groceries getting wanting to get home to eat our barbecue by the way that smells delicious and let Mr. Krabby pants out of his crate and some kid in front of us backed up into my car not once but twice anyway yeah so that's an interesting ending for the day we're going to just sit and enjoy our barbecue and chill for a while I think I think we need to now yeah even Fred agrees yeah time to sit back he probably needs a beer I'll give you a glass of water something yeah because it was just he didn't even look to see if there was anybody back there and we couldn't go anywhere there was somebody behind us so yeah hey guys you know I'm so bad lately about filming the vlog exit video clip I forgot again so fun fact it's Sunday it's like probably around lunchtime but anyways I hope you've had a great week we had an interesting ending to our week we're gonna go out in a little bit and I guess and check the car we'll see what it looks like I didn't look at it this morning anyway I'm gonna film my conclusions about the two pouring mediums today and that sort of thing so anyway I hope you've had a great week I hope that you have a great holiday and let me know if you want to keep seeing the vlogs if you're interested at all if there's other stuff you'd like to see on the channel let me know and yeah let's go all out and have a great one I'll see you later bye guys