Hi, and welcome to the Permissive Conformance Program. You might never see this talk. Actually, in fact, I hope you don't, because if you don't see this talk, this means we figured out how to splice this in as a neo-talk, simply because we will have pretty fresh results, which currently we don't know yet, because it's a month before KubeCon. So I'm kind of optimizing towards having a really short actual talk. Maybe you'll see, maybe you don't, and having an extended Q&A where I can share the actual results in a bit. The one-on-one, all of this, what we are doing here, as of today, October 14th, we will start publishing an overview of software, of projects, of products, of as-a-service offerings, which are compatible with Prometheus. If they are not compatible with Prometheus and if they claim to be compatible with Prometheus in the past, we will most likely also end up publishing those results just to have a little bit of a fair level playing field between all the different offers and vendors and such. As of this recording, I don't know who is making that cut, or was making the cut. We just don't know. It's too early. The intention, obviously, is that we want the end users, you most likely, to be able to choose between different implementations, between different offerings with confidence, without having any confusion about what is actually compatible with Prometheus was not. We have a little bit of a problem of success. We are victims of our own success. Prometheus is the standard in cloud-native metric monitoring and beyond. That's great, but because Prometheus is great, obviously I'm kind of biased, but I think it's correct. We have hundreds of thousands of installations. We have millions of users. This is great. The market segment, which we are leading, is worth billions, most likely even 10x that. Depending on who you ask and what analysts you read, it's substantial. As is commonly true, it's a lot easier to claim that you're compatible with something as opposed to actually investing the work of being compatible with something. Some people, honestly, don't even realize if they're incompatible. Others maybe are more aware of this. Doesn't matter. The point is we have confusion in the user base about who is actually doing things to Prometheus way and who is just claiming to be doing them the Prometheus way. How does this work? We created a suite of tests. You can see them here, just in the Prometheus org slash compliance. And anyone can run them. Obviously part of the design. CNCF, or more to the point, the Linux Foundation is using trademark law, which I found interesting when I first realized how this is structured to grant the usage of a mark. In this case, the mark Prometheus compatible with licensed little logo and such. So those vendors, those projects can showcase that yes, they're actually compatible with Prometheus. To get this, they need to sign paperwork with CNCF or the Linux Foundation, which include clauses like good faith testing. You can cheat on the tests, blah, blah, blah, blah. And lots of dry stuff, which you need to sign if you want to actually have that mark, but then you agree on the terms of the usage of that mark. That's a prerequisite. So if you would try to stop agreeing with this, you already signed a contract in the past, which is kind of nice this mechanism and this automation in contracts. Nice, when I realized how this works. You can either to submit your test results yourself or Prometheus team runs them for yourself for you with things like remote write. It's a lot easier to run it yourself and to write tests yourself and just run them fully automated with for example, promql, you need quite a bit of interpretation of the result sets. We'll get there and hopefully there'll be more automation over time. And then you really receive a time limited mark to actually show that you are Prometheus compatible. And if we on the Prometheus side update our test suite and you run out of that grace period where you have that mark, lose that mark under the trademark contract, which again is for a nice design. You might stumble across three different words which look almost the same conformance, compliance, compatibility. Conformance is the name of the actual program. Compliance is if a thing complies with an interface. For example, Prometheus read write how to generate and learn what have you. That is just that one interface which is being tested. Obviously there's overlap and such but you have a result set for one set of tests. And that's your compliance score for a thing. And the compatibility score is then how compared, like we simply multiply all your compliance scores which are relevant to you. And that's the end score of percentage of compliance. And if you reach 100% in all the relevant compliances you have 100% compatibility and then you get the mark. Why do I say if it's relevant? If you don't offer, for example, a storage course in an instrumentation library it would be kind of unfair to have alert generation or something as part of this. So that's where this is coming in. You might not actually be implementing all the interfaces of Prometheus for your thing to be considered compatible with Prometheus. If you're an end user, it's quite easy. Look for Prometheus compatible and ignore everything else. There's a little bit of a trick which I pulled here in the structure of this naming. We're using three super common terms, conformance, compliance, compatibility. The nice thing is they all have defined meaning in this contract under this program which means that if you signed the thing you implicitly acknowledged that those have specific meanings and you cannot in some potential future become clever with how you use other words. Which is a little bit of a trick but it has a nice forcing function to just keep everyone honest. There's also incentives here. There's like a lot of incentives as we in Prometheus team have found over the years again and again and again, there is a ton of informal knowledge among vendors and such who is actually compatible and who might not be, but they don't really want to raise a fuss or have a public fight or have what have you. Even if some people are aware that some things are not as they might seem to appear. But remember, we have these huge amounts of money which the market is worth like the market segment in which we are moving. So there is a direct monetary interest for people, for enterprises, for managers to improve the tests to keep everyone else honest. Their incentive is obviously mainly money here but even if that's the case, even if they go in this for purely monetary reasons the result is a more comprehensive test suite for everyone. Of course, you just cover more potential failures, more incompatibilities, what have you. I like this design. The initial cadence of this, I mentioned we have time limited grants of the marks is super aggressive. 12 weeks or two minor releases, whichever is longer, which is really, really short cadence. On purpose, of course, this thing will still evolve. It might actually be the case that as we introduce new tests or new aspects of testing, that some products, some projects even lose their mark of compatibility and then they have to reimplement something to or implement something, fix something to actually retain or regain that mark, which is not nice. And like again, this is hopefully what part of the incentive is for a lot of people to keep each other honest and to just keep moving the complete ecosystem at a nice velocity. If you need help to convince your manager to let you personally write stuff here, talk to us. We can most certainly make a good case why you as that person should be doing this and that work on this and that test suite. We can help you with design document. We can help you with everything. On purpose, we want to structure this as openly as humanly possible. Matter of fact, we already have two quite large cloud providers who committed to working on a Prometheus remote write receiver test suite. Maybe as we talk, it's already done, I don't know. So we just opened the design document so they have a place where they can write everything in. Everyone can get a feedback, no matter if they're from those vendors or Prometheus team or from someone else entirely, it doesn't matter. And once there is consensus on how that test should be structured, what needs to be covered, all those things people can just get going. All develop in the open, all even designed and discussed in the open to make this as honestly fair as possible. Let's move to the results. There aren't any. Kind of self-evident Prometheus Cortex Thanos will be compatible and anyone who is running them in a proper way, let's say, will be compatible as well for kind of self-evident reasons. Beyond this, it's just too early to tell. We will see. We will see this in the Q&A where we will see each other, hopefully right now. Or if we're lucky you're never even going to see this talk and we have a full thing with nice tables and the presentation and I can show you the mark and everything, maybe we are lucky that way. If not, see you in the Q&A in a few. Thank you.


We've already given you the tutorial on how to jump rope like Jake Gyllenhaal in South Paul, but we forgot to mention one thing, his Zen dude body. In today's video, we're going to be breaking down how to get a body like Jake Gyllenhaal from the movie South Paul. What's up, players? What's going on, ladies and gentlemen? Dan Wimmer from Zen Dude Fitness.  We look at every single like. We look at every single subscribe and it means a lot to us. So thank you and if you love this video, if you love this channel, go ahead and give us some more love by giving this video a like and a subscribe as well so we can continue to teach you guys how to get lean and live a more epic life with a jump rope. If you want the jump rope that we always use, that we always promote, it's the best jump rope out there on the market. It's the cross rope I say in every single video. If you guys want a 10% off discount to get yourself started and skipping yourself lean, that link is right here or up here. That link is down here. That link is only down here. So Jake's physique is the epitome of the Zen Dude physique in this movie because he's lean but he's also very strong and explosive but at the same time he's not too tight. He's fast. And Jake looks pretty amazing. Billy Hope as you can see here, he looks pretty awesome in a suit as well. Not that Zen Dudes wear suits that often but just in case you're trying to impress that lady for a nice dinner out, you know, you might want to throw one I don't know. So first I want to talk about where Jake was at. Now before the movie South Pole, Jake had already lost 30 pounds to play the role in his previous movie Nightcrawler. So he came into this not super scrawny but skinny. What he needed to do and what he ended up doing was packing on 15 pounds of pure muscle and as you can see from the photos in the video, I think he might have been 6-7% body fat. I mean the guy was just shredded. So how did he get there? First and foremost guys, Jake trained for this role 5 months. I'm talking 5 straight months of training twice per day because in Jake's mind and as he mentions, he basically got in 10 months of training. Over 5 months, you know, every single day twice a day you just start learning the techniques. I trained for 5 months. I trained twice a day for 5 months. I'd wake up in the morning and over time I added miles to my road work but I'd start at like 3 miles and then eventually I was running 8 miles and then I would go and I'd work out for 2 hours and do mid work, heavy bag, speed bag. Did you know that? I knew nothing about boxing when I started really and I knew that in order for me to pull it off in any way, I was just going to have to learn how to do it. So he had no prior experience boxing, even sparring, even hitting a heavy bag or a speed bag. So he had to basically become a fighter in a very short period of time. So instead of training once a day, he trained twice per day for, I mean Jake would train for a total of 4 to 6 hours every single day including Sundays for 5 straight months to get in the shape that he was in. So please understand at the base of all this, when you're doing boxing training, like hitting the speed bag, jumping a lot of rope, sparring, you are burning a massive amount of calories. So when talking about how to get a body like Jake Gyllenhaal in the movie Southpaw, just understand that this dude was moving all the time and that's what we constantly talk about here at Sendoo Fitness. That's why I have Do the Thing written on my shirt and tattooed on my fingers. Do the Thing. As described by his trainer, Jake would typically do 3 hours of boxing in the morning followed by strength conditioning and cardio at night. What's interesting is to build up a lot of muscle mass. If you're someone who's very scrawny and want to get big, you do need to be hitting the weight room. So he talked about doing some strength training but he wasn't really doing, you know, 3 times a week doing bench press and squats and deadlifts. He wasn't doing that kind of training. A lot of the work he was doing was more focused on agility and speed. So while Jake wasn't hitting the weight room super consistently and wasn't doing your traditional lifts that typically get you that bodybuilder physique, he was doing a massive amount of pull-ups and sit-ups and yes, you can build muscle depending on how you eat with those bodyweight exercises. So Jake, that's how he got a lot bigger in his arms and as you can see in his chest area because he was constantly working those muscles in his upper body. We'll always be up front with you guys. If you want to gain muscle the fastest way, you need to lift weights. Chances are you probably don't have 6 hours every single day to train and do as many sit-ups and pull-ups as Jake does. So you're going to have to hit the weight room because that's a more efficient way to pull on muscle. We included a link to our gaining muscle course down below. So if you're looking, if you're thinner and want to build muscle in a lean and strong way, check out that course below. And of course, as you can see in many of the clips here and as you see in the other video I shot, Jake became extremely proficient at jumping rope. I'm not just talking, you know, he could jump rope regular bounce pretty fast. My man is doing crossovers, double-unders, even a move, the side-swipe single-under that I could not pull off in the tutorial. So Jake became an amazing jump roper. Again, total body workout, burns a ton of calories. That's why boxers look the way they do because they jump a lot of rope and do a lot of high agility activity. In addition, his cardio also included just simply a lot of boxing. So speed bag, heavy bag, sparring, all of that is super strenuous on your body and provides a great calorie burn. Okay, next, I want to address something that the internet put out because not everything that's on the internet is reliable. And I can't get this out of my head, so I have to share it with you guys. In researching, Brandon and I are very meticulous about researching how these people got their bodies. So when we make videos like this, we scour the internet for all the information we can find. And I kept coming across this article and many articles that were saying, Jake Gyllenhaal was doing 2,000 sit-ups per day, and that's why his torso looked the way it did. Maybe he did do 2,000 sit-ups a day. I mean, the guy was training four to six hours. So he was doing a lot of work. And I believe that he definitely had the dedication to put that in. But I couldn't find any videos or actual quotes of Jake confirming that he was doing 2,000 sit-ups a day. Now, why is that important? Because guys, doing 2,000 sit-ups a day is a nice title. It's a nice headline for a newspaper. But that's not why Jake got so ripped in his torso. If you take, if you examine his six pack, Jake is very lean because let me remind you, he was in a calorie deficit. He was burning a massive amount of calories through jumping rope and boxing training and doing a lot of push-ups and pull-ups, not because he was doing 2,000 sit-ups a day. While he might have been doing a lot of sit-ups, that was not the sole reason that Jake looks the way he does for this role. At the same time, if you have information and you have like a video saying, and Jake Gyllenhaal's like, yeah, I totally did 2,000 sit-ups, then send it to me. Because I want to be, I want that knowledge in this video. Let me be straight with you. You don't get a six pack by doing 2,000 sit-ups a day.  So that means doing a lot of high intensity training, doing a lot of jump rope workouts like we have on this channel, doing a lot of push-ups, pull-ups, body weight exercises, and even some weightlifting from time to time. You might be asking yourself, Dan, how am I supposed to get this body? I don't have four to six hours to train every single day. That is totally understandable first and foremost. Not everyone is a Hollywood actor, okay? So you can still get his body by just following a few simple rules. Like I mentioned earlier, if you're looking to gain muscle, gain lean muscle, you do need to calculate your calories and macronutrients because you need to be eating a consistent amount of carbs, fats, and proteins so that your body builds muscle or it can lose body fat. So if you're skinnier and you're looking to gain muscle, what I need you to do is go first and foremost, we linked up our calorie and macronutrient calculator below. Fill in your numbers, start tracking it in my fitness pal. If you have any questions, again, we laid all of this out in our gaining muscle course link below. But if you guys are bigger-framed, like Brandon and I used to be, we were bigger-frame guys that didn't need to build muscle, we just needed to lose body fat, then check out our getting lean course which I have linked up below. Also follow all the workouts on this channel. Guys, we have an abundance of high-intensity workouts that are gonna help you maintain your lean muscle mass but shred you up and lose body fat. To reach Jake Gyllenhaal's physique is completely attainable. It's absolutely doable for everyone. You just need to know where your starting point is. If you need to get bigger, you need to be lifting weights and doing high-intensity workouts with the combination of eating the right amount of calories and macronutrients, eating in a calorie surplus so you can gain that muscle. If you need to lose weight and just shred up body fat, you need to be eating in a calorie deficit and doing a lot of the high-intensity and body weight workouts like we recommend. What was Jake's diet? I love the answer that is provided for what was Jake's diet during all of this because he was basically like, no, I didn't track my calories and macronutrients. Why is that, Jake? Well, because I was burning like 4,000 of them a day.  One thing I did find interesting is that Jake talks about how much Chipotle he ate during his training. So why is Chipotle a good option? Because it has all the macronutrients that you need delivered in a healthy and delicious way. Tons of protein, lots of good carbohydrates, lots of good fat. So Jake talks about he didn't really track his food, but he made sure that those three macronutrients formed the base of all of his meals. Lastly, guys, and the most important part of this entire video is Jake's mindset. Take a look at this clip right here. A lot of people ask me often, they say, we'll talk about the, oh, you've gotten shape and whatever, how many sit-ups did you do and how many push-ups and how many days did you work out and I just literally never thought of that. Like I, what I thought about was, I just need to be, I need to learn how to box. Hallelujah, Jake. Now the reason Jake got ripped for this role is exactly what he just said. He didn't even think one time about how long it was gonna take him to get, to be proficient in boxing. He just did the work every single day until he achieved the result. That's a great metaphor for you guys. A lot of people ask us, Dan, how long's it gonna take me? Is it gonna be four weeks? Is it gonna be two months? Is it gonna be a year till I have the body? My answer is I don't care. It doesn't matter. Stop focusing on how long it's gonna take you and just put in the work that you know you have to do every day and don't stop until you have the result. Some of you it might be two months, some of you it might be two years. The point is guys, you don't reach any big landmark like that in your physique without just putting in the work consistently. So ladies and gentlemen, I hope you enjoyed this video today on how to get a body like Jake Gyllenhaal in the movie Southpaw. Please understand that if this man can go from nothing not knowing anything about boxing and being a little bit scrawny when he started to being a not only a badass boxer but super lean and ripped that you can do anything you set your mind to as well. Please believe that Zendu Nation, we're out. Hey guys, again, if you love this video, go ahead and subscribe to the channel. Every single one means the world to us and we cannot wait to continue this awesome journey of fitness and fun with you all in 2017. Let's get after it ladies and gentlemen.


with John Furrier, we are at the Women in Data Science conference, the first ever John data science conference here at Stanford at the Ariaga Center, about 500 women going all day. They've got panels, keynotes, breakout sessions. It's a lot of horsepower, John. I was a little confused by some of that early algorithm stuff, heavy science. Yeah, this is not one of those women in tech promotional things. This is like down and dirty hardcore computer science at Stanford, PhDs, big name, industry folks in the air, but also really a lot of tech athletes, as we say, the people who are actually doing amazing work. I mean, when I say amazing work, we're talking about machine learning, we're talking about companies like Netflix, Walmart, Labs, Intel, and just a lot of academic PhD and master students. So this is absolutely a computer science oriented program. But with data science, you bring in physics, you bring all kinds of interdisciplinary. So that's what I was most impressed on is the quality of the people in the room and the interdisciplinary around computer science and science in general. And just overall, just the content was phenomenal. Looking at the background of some of the guests, John, most of these people came straight out of their PhD, straight into Google, straight into Netflix. And it's amazing. Caitlin Smallwood from Netflix talking about the level of granularity of detail. They have 50,000 descriptive lines for one of my panels when I go to Netflix. The amount of attention to detail experimentation is really phenomenal. Yeah, and they go in the great detail. And the problems that they're solving are significant. So this is like really amazing and inspiring to see all these women in tech and these ladies just kicking butt here with the science. But it's interesting that dynamics are different than the men's shows, or the standard shows, which is mostly dominated by men. The hallway conversation is highly engaging. And they're also camera shy. I just tried to get them, come on, camera. Oh no. So there's a little bit of a fear that their employer will get wind of it, that they're afraid of some PR, because with data science there's a huge PR problem. For instance, one company I won't say was talking to us at the table about the ramifications of just really good science and how it could be misconstrued in the PR function because it would look too weird.   So there's an element of awesome science going on that's just not well understood by mainstream right now. So that's why I love Stanford here, this event. They're working on some really cutting edge science around algorithms. And it's all tight now in computer science. It's not messy, like it was in the 80s when I was growing up. It was like data structures with algorithms and compilers and operating systems. Now you can be an algorithms person and you don't have to take the data structures and all this stuff kind of the requirements. But really, really clean computer science programs now and they're bringing in other disciplines. So really exciting to see. Yeah, it was great. You know, it was not that long ago. You were talking with Michael Jordan at the GE event and he talked about the differences between computer science and math.  Math, everything's got a confidence factor, right? There is no right answer. And really it feels here at this data science summit that they're trying to bring in as many disciplines as they can. And also what keeps coming up over and over even from Google that has infinite resources, you would think, computing and money. You still have to make trade-off decisions. You still have to have a hypothesis. You can still start the process and save a lot of computational power because again, there always has to be a value component to it. So these are the people that are at the big companies that are at the cutting edge of the science. And it was another thing that was interesting, John, during the keynotes, kept referencing research, research, research, research. Most of the research articles reference were 04, 07, 09. There was one 1999. It's all relatively new. It's all relatively fresh and people are in a position to really cutting edge, move this thing forward. Yeah, you know, Jeff, that's a great point. And we noticed at MIT with Andrew McAfee and Dr. Lowe. And now here at Stanford is it's a really great time for this type of approach with data science, with interdisciplinary and whatnot, these stuff that's coming together. Because it's so clean now. A lot of the foundational work has been done in the science and the computer science side. It's not as messy as I was saying before. So what you're seeing now is a real explosion of multi-talented individuals, men, women, across multiple disciplines. So a lot cleaner is not as messy. And again, a lot of that foundational work on the computer science stuff is done so you're starting to see explosion. And that is super exciting. And that brings up these conversations. You're starting to see more people involved. You're seeing a PhD person in physics who's really engaged with the discipline of physics, programming because it's part of the tooling of their curriculum. And that spawns more creativity, more collaboration. So the computer science flywheel is rolling. The foundational work is done. And you're starting to people really sink their teeth into solving big problems. Yeah, I'm reminded of my conversation with Hilary Mason at Grace Hopper a couple of weeks back where she called me out on my computer science done, or data science done well is magic data science done poorly is creepy. She's like, no, no, no, it's not the data science. It's how you use it. It's what you do with it. And really there's conversations about ethics and how you do experimentation and really being sensitive and doing the right thing. You know, you just don't willy-nilly start playing with people's experience. They're your customers. They're paying you money. We were having a conversation just at lunch there about Facebook's controversy around are they manipulating the emotions of the users?  It actually is iterating on the data aspect of a user experience. On one hand, you can look at that saying, whoa, we're being manipulated, but really Facebook's trying to just do great work to create the best user experience possible. So in the effort to be iterative and to be agile, there is some misconstrued situations of, wait a minute, it's not evil. Don't do no evil, as Google says. So in computer science, you're going to have this element of manipulations, element of experimentation. And that's where people get confused. Experimentation and iteration for a great user experience where data's at the heart of the value proposition should not be misconstrued as evil. And that really is going to be where people in the science and the field and journalism have to do their work to identify the signal versus the noise. Yeah, and the other piece I think that's really great is people have this perception that, grab a bunch of data, throw it in a Hadoop cluster, the answers come out. That's really not the way it works, right? You've got to have a hypothesis. You've got to have some relative knowledge about what you're trying to discover to move the process along. Still a lot of great opportunities for kind of O-line merchants, O-line people that have been in the business for a long time to really partner with data scientists, partner, give them the context, leverage their expertise and really get to a one plus one makes three opportunity. Yeah, this is going to be multiple decades of innovation because like I said, the foundational work's done. You're going to see an explosion of great things because it's just so early, even in the room there, we were having another conversation we were having at the table was, you know, can you imagine in middle America, this conversation, we were like, no, we can't, this is Silicon Valley. It's a very special place here at Stanford. And the top minds of women in computing are here talking about some of these crazy, cool things. To the middle of America, we'll be like, oh my God, and the press will try to make, you know, create fear. So, you know, there's a whole transformation happening and I personally think it is one of the most exciting times to be in computer science. It is one of the most exciting times to be young and be a developer, to be an entrepreneur because so many new things are changed. It's really going to transform the work streams, the value chains and everything else in business and in science. John, it's great and we're very fortunate. We live close by. We can come over here because a lot of innovation happening here at Stanford. A lot of great companies coming out of here. A lot of brilliant PhDs partnering with the business school people to come out and really create transformative companies. And so we're excited to cover it. Excited to be in the neighborhood. I'm Jeff Frick with John Furrier. We are at Stanford University at the Women in Data Science Summit. They're our first one. Look forward to being back next year. Thanks for watching.


This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network Baseball is officially back and so is Rob of Friedman pitching ninja joining us once again for today We're gonna pick his brain about what he learned at the all-star break We're talking about pitching matchups for today talks and strikeout props and get you ready to begin your second half on a high note This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and number fire.com My name is Jim Sonis I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire joined here as mentioned by Rob Friedman check him out on Twitter at pitching ninja find His work on peacock nlb.com Fox and of course here at Fandall sportsbook as well Rob Welcome back from the all-star break. How you doing?  What was the highlight not dying? I think that was good like we had a bed and Ben We was about the home run derby and I lost because I'm not a home run guy Like I hope no one hits home runs. Yeah, and yeah, he technically had to throw me over the So I had Peter Lonzo winning it and I feel like you too. I feel like work Yeah, I feel like Peter Lonzo might be like a closet pitching ninja fan Based on the way things went there So maybe you need to recruit Peter Lonzo to get like some mop up duties You can get some gifts out there at Peter Lonzo because I think he might be on your side actually Well, I mean he definitely got painted to death. Yeah, that I think you're staying away from his nitro zone Good plan like if you're a pitcher. I get it. Yep. Yeah, I mean It looked like it was a lot of fun out there in Seattle It looked like you were talking to a lot of different pitchers You've got a full podcast up over on your YouTube page talking about different pitch grips any insights you gleaned from talking to you guys Up there just because like I feel like for you, especially Being on the ground and talking to people has to be so valuable. Oh, it's it's fantastic I mean the things that jumped out at me are a lot of pitchers really want to understand why their pitches move The way they do and they they know a ton about it You kind of expect that in in reality, but I think a lot of people assume that pitchers Oh, they're just you know, they they throw the ball and we all look at the stats No, they look at the stats, too And they're looking at video and movement numbers and stuff to make sure their pitchers are moving, right? So the knowledge of pitchers is huge and then Josiah Gray like pitch picks up a pitch grip every other day I think like I think he throws as many as you Darvish now So I expect big things out of him I love the energy that he brings and the desire to keep learning like that dude Will leave no stones on turn to make his game better I know it's cool to see him get to pitch to you know kind of a reward for it seems like Constantly tinkering again, you know, you don't want to overtinker but like he is tinkering He's trying to learn even though he's super young still it seems like he is on the right path He's got some stuff too. So it seems like when you combine Intelligence curiosity with some stuff. I feel like long term. It's it's pretty okay to be high on him going forward Oh totally. He's one of those guys that will not let himself fail So that's what I like is he holds himself to a high standard wants to keep learning And if things aren't working for him, he's going to figure out a new way to make himself better Like he just added a sweeper apparently that I don't know if I've ever called it one But he picked it up in the last month. All right. Well, there you go I'll have to look forward to that when digging into his next start Uh, that would be a lot of fun that pitching staff kind of has some fun dudes in his equally So, um, it definitely gonna be fun to watch them going forward talk some strikeout props and talk about potential strikeout leaders for tonight Across major league baseball in just one second But first a reminder to make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast We were here every weekday talking mlb nascar pga Whatever it may be on the covering the spread podcast vd if you like what you hear We must say five star rating on apple podcast or spotify Also, check us out in video form on the fandal youtube page and over on fan dual tv plus Let's dig in now to friday night rob and of course, we do have uh, you darvish out there for today to kick things off He Will be the second pitcher to throw a pitch in the second half of the mlb season when you look at the pitchers on tonight Slate rob who stands out to you in terms of strikeout props for tonight So I was looking at alcantara versus kramer in the uh, the orioles marlins game And you know kramer coming off a big effort against the yankees I kind of like his where his confidence is and I think sandi's turned it around a little bit You know the only bump has been the braves and that's a bump for everybody like He only giving up only giving up four runs against the braves. It's like a shutout basically, so I give a buy on that What to you Did you see in alcantara's recent outings that led you to believe that he's turned a corner because I've been searching all year trying to find Okay, this is it. This is it. No, this is this is it and it's like it's a tough match up here, too But the strikeout number is low. It's four and a half for alcantara minus 134 on the own Over almost identical for kramer four and a half minus 136 for him. What do you Made you think that alcantara had figured something out I've seen his change up return a little bit more to normal and that's where I thought he was struggling so uh to me seen as Again a couple of good games his stuff is there like it's not like a velo drop or anything like that I wouldn't have any doubt that with that change up now being more dialed in That he's going to be able to put it together today. Now, of course saying that It won't happen, but my logic is there. I feel it right right and it's based on what you see And I think that's always gonna be valuable, too So alcantara four and a half is minus 134. I love dean kramer personally. I think that he's super fun it's a low strikeout team in the marlins, but um kramer It seems like he's unlocked something like the past two or so months And it's a large sample now of him pitching really well 25 strikeout rate his past 11 starts What puts you on kramer as well here? It was exactly that like I mean he's slowly Or or I guess under the radar picked up a good stretch of k's and I kind of like him for five today Like I think I think both of those guys that seems like a pretty good pick to me That should be a fun game to watch. Uh, so liking alcantara over four and a half minus 134 dean kramer Over four and a half at minus 136 in that marlins versus orials game Which other props you looking at for tonight rob? I would I mean I think tyler glass now might strike out 400 today So, uh, you know, he's been he's been really nasty Yeah, and I could see him having a fairly sizeable game today You know against the royals that seems like a good match Glass now strikeout prop is seven and a half right now minus 140 on the over looking at my numbers So I have strikeout projections rob that I run myself based on pitch counts and stuff like that I have glass now projected for 8.7, which sounds low probably based on an entire glass now But that's like a 90th percentile number because it's hard to get high strikeout projections high and still above this number two Of seven and a half with minus 140 on the over because It's Tyler freaking glass now Um pitch count has been good enough. I would say uh better than I thought it'd be to when he's not cramping Um, and he's facing a team that will strike out for sure Not the best plate discipline out of uh, can city so I get why you're you're high on glass now here. It kind of seems like assuming the weather is okay it's kind of a Unfortunately pun intended your perfect storm for glass now to rack up some strikeouts tonight. Yeah. Yeah, I told that's exactly what I'm seeing I mean, he's he's a basically an unstoppable force and the and the royals are a very movable object, so I think he'll do okay I firmly agree. I hope that we get some good weather in that game because glass now is a delight to watch always seems like He's just kind of himself again, which is uh reassuring given a situation So we are on a glass now over seven and a half minus 140 and then kramer over four and a half minus 136 Alcantra for four and a half minus 134 in that same game Now we're not going to get the To lead the night in strikeouts prop up yet because there are a couple teams that have not announced starters He had the jays not officially not their starter the a's. I don't think have either So there are a couple teams that have left some things open So we're not going to get that market up yet But once that market does come out rob Where are you going to turn first? Which guys are you looking to to potentially lead a Friday night and strikeouts over at fandom? Well, I mean, I want to see glass now's number Yeah, because he's got to be the favorite like that matchup is kind of sick for him Yeah And I think like erot could be a dark horse against the mariners like, you know They're known to strike out just a little bit and uh, and he actually wanted to have seven and four last time Didn't pitch all that great as far as you know given up runs But his stuff is there and it's sneaky good and he could get a bunch and he might be You know, I don't know what the odds are going to be if he's got a good number. I would look at that so I uh Have the tigers money line today in part because of edward roderiguez looking at that first star back off the il Velocity was good. It was actually better than it was before he got hurt He was willing to use his Cutter and his slider. So that to me that to me I always care about because I want to know they have confidence in in their health And off speed pitches being willing to use them to me is always a key indicator Right, which is always something he is good at but like I know it's the a's too But like seeing him do that to me allow me to overlook the results in that game and focus on the seven strikeouts The fact that he pitched well, so I agree with you. I think we should be on roderiguez for tonight Because I don't think that can that that start was as bad as the results would say I could not agree with you more. That was exactly my logic looking at that and against a team that has some k there And he's slight, you know kind of under the radar been picking up strikeouts this year So that is somebody, you know, I think he's back healthy I didn't see anything that's going to hold him back and it wouldn't surprise me like if you get a good enough number Yeah, he's a six and a half for the strikeout props specifically. Uh plus one 14 on the over that to me says he'll probably be 12 14 to one, I would say uh to lead tonight And I think that could be intriguing probably longer honestly given glass now is there and glass now sucks up a lot of the The win equity in that market, but I think roderiguez very interesting And hopefully he can do so getting a win not drew it against louise castillo because that's not fun But like the tigers think are very interesting and potentially undervalued at plus one 66 Okay, so check out tyler glass now see if you can maybe get a discount there based on Weather based on glass now, you know having the crances last time out anything like that or Rodriguez potentially a dark horse against the mariners for tonight We're all I'm glad we're on the same page with it. We're all Rodriguez and the the tigers one for tonight I think that's that that makes you feel better about it I always feel better when we're on the same page because a lot of times I'm sitting there talking with you And I'm like, oh, I didn't think about that pick like that was actually pretty good You you know you pull something out and I'm like, dude, you're the man See for me It's more like I'm very nervous recommending the tigers to beat the mariners plus one 66 and you say roderiguez and I'm like Cool, I'm in we're good to go sign me up My mental like burden is a lot less. So it's a win-win as always awesome Well, that is rob freedman makes you check him out on twitter at pitching ninja find his work on peacock nlb.com Fox and of course here at fandom as well rob It is great to have you back on the show and joy the first night post all-star break. We'll talk to you once again next week I'm gonna be busy. Yes. Yeah Alrighty again, uh, check out all of rob's great work Hoping for a lot of edward roderiguez strike out gifts for tonight and hopefully a tigers win as well We'll talk about why I'm on the tigers here as we go through some money lines In just one second But first take your first swing at betting and I'll be on fandal and get 10 times their first bet amount in bonus Betts up to 200 dollars. That's right. Just bet 20 bucks. You'll land 200 dollars in bonus bets win or lose That's 200 you can spend on betting everything from strikeout props via rob freeman talking about overunders Who you think will hit first home run on an app that is safe secure and super easy to use plus when you win You can get paid instantly. 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We love louis castillo here on this podcast But he has had some issues with hard contact at times So i'm expecting a pretty low scoring type game and that does favor the team with a 38 Percent implied odd to win. That's the tigers plus 166. I've got them around 40 percent So to me tigers are good value to win for tonight Plus 166 being their uh money line right now over at fandall sportsbook The other two money lines i like have actually moved a bit since i was looking at them this morning So We do want to dig in and identify whether There is still value there as always so you can chop around potentially still get a discount elsewhere The first one is the balkamal orials. They are currently minus 130 They were minus 118 earlier on today the implied odds of minus 130 are 56.5 percent and the implied odds of 180 or 118 or 54.1 percent so about two Percentage points of movement. I have the or is around 60 to win So there is still value there, but I would note once again Make sure you shop around try to identify if any books are lagging behind when it comes to This market's even get the orials at a better number I think there's value of minus 130, but shop around and see what you can get my model typically Likes the marlin. So I was a bit surprised to see It showed value in the orials here, but it comes down to what we discussed with rob where Dean kramer has been really really good recently It's a 10 start sample from me on kramer since he started throwing more cutters in that time He has a 3.75 a skill interactive era With really impressive plate discipline numbers now I do get a bit worried hearing that rob has seen some life out of sandy alcantra's change up because that change Up has been it was kind of a key pitch for him when he had his breakout was getting that change up because he previously had a lot of issues with lefties and nullified that and If he can get back to being sandy alcantra minus 130 will look pretty rough here. So I would say it's not as Intriguing as it was before because there's less value now since it has moved and I've talked to rob and that does matter for me So a bit wary about minus 130. I do still like it. My model does still show value So I would take the orals of minus 130, but I would at least get some caution Uh, and let you know that this that the numbers move. There's not as much value anymore and A person whose opinion I respect says alcantra may Potentially be trending back up But I like the orals primarily because of kramer their offense and disliking the marlin's offense The second one actually has moved in our favor, uh, which means it's moved against me, which is never a fun feeling But that's the chicago cubs money line the chicago cubs out to plus 110 right now at vandal sports But they were plus 102 earlier on and then they moved to even money But apparently someone came in and uh bet on the red sox because this one is moved back towards boston. So So That means it could move again So what I would do is open up your vandal sports book app while you're listening Check where the money line is to the cubs if it's still a 110 in an hour or so I'm recording this at uh 10 19 a.m. Eastern if it's still around 110 or so around 11 Then I'd be okay diving in otherwise If it's still lengthening I'd hold off, you know, you want to find that inflection point You want to identify the point where you can get the best number So if it's still around 110 in an hour or so, I'd be okay diving in but just check on this market to see Whether or not now is the right time and I get why there's money coming in a boss Because brian bay is starting for the red sox and he's very very fond and I do like him broadly But I think that the money line here Yeah, is underselling how well kyla hendrix has pitched since returning now This depends on which metric you look at because skill interactive era is not into hendrix It's underwhelming at 4.85 since he returned but to me the weakness of skill interactive era is identifying or quantifying pitchers who are really good at Suppressing hard contact and that's what hendrix does in his time this year. He has a 32 hard hit rate allowed and That's why his expected era is down at 3.81 when you've got a guy who is an outlier With his bad at ball data either in the good sense of the bad sense I put more faith in expected era than skill interactive era. They're about neutral. I don't care I'll go skill interactive era because I trust the mechanics of that one and the sustainability that one more but in these situations I skew towards expected era and Hendrix expected era is 3.81. It's just pretty good. I think that contact suppression is a skill Also, there is some weather in Chicago for today So maybe there could be a weather delay if that does happen though The cubs bullpen pretty solid. No huge concerns there. They've got a better skill interactive era And they're active roster in the bullpen than the red socks do so Not saying they'd have an edge, but it wouldn't be an active negative if that were to happen So my pot my model as the cubs win odds 54.6 percent the implied odds at plus 110 Much lower than that as it has moved again against us. So Plus 110 the implied odds there 47.6 percent So, you know again when you open your app check out this number See if it's moved if it's lengthened more I'd hold off try to see if you can get a better number later on Keep tabs on that market throughout the day But if you open your app and see if it's still plus 110 or for shortened to plus 105 or something like that Then I'd be okay diving into the cubs. I took this. I think at even money yesterday, so it moved against me, but I'd be okay that even if it were to get to even money once again for the cubs So three money lines for today the Orioles at minus 130 the cubs at plus 110 and the tigers at plus 166 That's all we got here for today Here on covering the spread want to give a big thank you once again to to rob freeman check about on twitter at pitching ninja Find his work at peacock nlb.com fox and here on covering the spread each friday as well If you got any questions for me, I'm on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s You can also follow the fan dual podcast network at fan dual podcast Do not forget to subscribe on the covering the spread podcast feed or on the fan dual youtube page or check us out Over on fan dual tv plus. Hope you all have a fantastic weekend Good luck to you with your bets across nlb for tonight and this weekend. We'll talk to you once again on monday This has been covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network


What, if any, discussions did you have with Phil Goff about this matter of you returning? Phil said I was welcome back. I have to confess he sounded like he was chewing dead rats as he said it. Do you think Phil Goff is the right person to lead the Labour Party? I have always supported the leader of the Labour Party. Phil hasn't always. I support him as long as he's leader, but I think he's got to ask himself and the caucus have got to ask him whether he can win the next election. I've never tripped up. I've never stuffed up. I've done it. I've done it. I've done it.


were less willing to wait in the ever-lengthening lines as the gas crisis worsened. The black marketers took their plastic jugs to the petrol stations, filled them, walked down the street a few meters and used siphons and plastic funnels to pour gas into the empty tanks of those able to pay a little extra. Everyone from small children to elderly men on crutches were doing this. Meanwhile, short-tempered Iraqis were jamming their cars toward the pumps, some having slept overnight in their cars in order to keep their place in line. And the Americans tried to tell us this war is not about our oil, yelled the man pushing his car. He agreed to talk with us as long as we stayed out of his way. Even under that bastard's sedom, we never had benzene shortages. I'd seen these lines all over Baghdad. Gas lines were so thick in some areas that traffic would often get choked down to a single lane, further aggravating the already impossible chaos of Baghdad's auto congestion. Some of the men we spoke with in the fuel line were aware of the fact that Haliburton subsidiary KVR had just been talked by the Pentagon for grossly overcharging them by importing gasoline into Iraq from Kuwait at $2.65 per gallon. Iraqi concerns were able to do the job for under $1 per gallon. Haliburton, which had Dick Cheney as its chairman and CEO from 1995 to 2000, before he relinquished his position in order to become Vice President of the United States, was unabashedly looting the Pentagon. By this time, Cheney's old company, which he still had financial ties with and has, had obtained billions of dollars of contracts in Iraq. No one knows exactly how much money has been contracted in total, but as of the time of this writing, Haliburton's overall contracts for a log cap and oil infrastructure rebuilding in total approximately $20 billion in Iraq. Total expenditures on U.S. corporations operating in Iraq on reconstruction and other services is about $50 billion. Log cap is a logistic civil augmentation program with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, which is Haliburton's largest government contract. Under this contract, Haliburton is responsible for providing supplies and services to the U.S. military on a global basis. Services include construction and military housing for troops, transporting food and supplies to bases, and serving food. So, pause. According to the Department of Defense, there's over 736 U.S. military bases around the planet. Haliburton has the contract of supplying, doing construction on, and servicing all of those U.S. military bases around the globe. It's a pretty sweet deal. It's worth noting that it was Dick Cheney as defense secretary in 1992, who spearheaded the movement to privatize most of the military's civil logistics activities. Under Cheney's direction, $9 million was paid by the Pentagon to KBR to conduct a study to determine whether private companies like KBR should handle all the military's civil logistics. That's in the club, too. KBR's classified study conveniently concluded that greater privatization of logistics was in the government's best interest. Big shocker. Shortly thereafter, on August 3rd, 1992, Secretary Cheney awarded the first comprehensive log cap contract to KBR. The Washington Post reported at the time, quote, the Pentagon chose KBR to carry out the study and subsequently selected the company to implement its own plan. Three years later, Cheney became CEO of Haliburton. And then to finish the linear progression, so he remained CEO of Haliburton up until 1999, when George Bush announces he's going to run for president of the United States. And a committee, clearly, needs to be formed as is how it goes in the United States in order to try to decide and choose, OK, who's going to be his running mate? Who's going to be his vice president? So Cheney volunteers to chair that committee, and then he chooses himself. And then, literally, the day before he's sworn in as vice president, he steps out of his CEO position. And then the next day, he's sworn in as vice president. And here we are. I think that's pretty clear. To a quick update on that, former Haliburton subsidiary KBR has received so far now contracts in Iraq totaling well over $20 billion. In a Pentagon audit of $16.2 billion worth of KBR's work found that at least $3.2 billion in KBR billing was either questionable or completely unsupported by documentation. Another big shocker. I want to leave plenty of time for question and answer session, so I do want to start closing up. But I want to talk a little bit about why there's so much violence in Iraq, particularly coming from the US military, and why US soldiers have done so many of the things like the Abu Ghraibs, the Hadithas, the Fallujahs. Why is this happening? And I actually close my book. I think it's an important question, because it's something that's going to be ongoing for, well, an indefinite period of time right now. And it is going to get worse in time. And I decided to, I had met a man named Robert J. Lifton. He lives in Boston. He's a famous psychiatrist, because he had done studies. He became very interested in trying to figure out how is it possible for one human being to carry out atrocities on another human being? And for example, he did studies. I mean, he's done volumes of studies. But he did studies on Hitler's SS after World War II to try to figure out how could a human being, ideology or not, how could a human being put another human being in an oven and burn them alive? How can that happen? And he wanted to figure out psychologically how does a human being do that? How does he get to the stage of doing that? And then he did similar studies during and after the Vietnam War for the United States, military. He would interview troops coming back home, because it was not uncommon in the US that literally similar to Iraq, guys would be walking in the jungle on patrol one day. And two days later, he'd be showing up at San Francisco Airport and walking around the streets of San Francisco. And it became common, especially in the latter years of Vietnam, for troops to come home.  That's what Lyfton labeled it, that they would come home and they'd become so normalized to that type of situation that they would come home with necklaces of tears that they had cut off of Vietnamese resistance fighters or carrying digits of their fingers in their pockets as war trophies and this kind of thing. And so again, Lyfton tried to figure out how can people do this to other human beings? Ideology or not, how can this happen? And a lot of his work actually ended up playing a very heavy role in updating what was formerly called shell shock into post-traumatic stress disorder. A lot of that's thanks to Robert J Lyfton.  And so when he saw the Hadithas and the other graves and things like that coming out of Iraq, he again started writing about it and researching what was happening. And so in order to not dehumanize American soldiers or try to paint them as the bad guy or something like that, I thought it was very important to include this in the book and also because it was something that I experienced myself as well. And in an article titled, Conditions of Atrocity,


Hello, everyone. I'm here with the founder of the Young Turks and Wolfpack Co-founder of Justice Democrats and now he is running to represent the 25th Congressional District of California. Jank. Thank you so much for coming on the program Thanks, Mike. I appreciate it. Look, I am really excited about your campaign The first thing that I said on Twitter when I found out that you that you were running was that Jank would be a wrecking ball in Congress But I want to ask you so you have been hosting the Young Turks now forever Why run for Congress now like why change up the pace and will you be the wrecking ball that we all think you will be? Yes, so a normal politician would tell you well. No, of course not I'm going to work with the other side and my colleagues to do absolutely nothing Okay, but not me. Yes I will probably be a wrecking ball and and I hope on behalf of the voters and on behalf of progressives and righteousness and justice so The number one reason I'm running is because I was waiting for someone else to say the word and they just wouldn't say it's bribery Corporate campaign contributions are bribes So isn't it amazing Mike that we all know it every single voter goes. Yeah, that's obviously true I've never asked In any audience the question of do you think Exxon mobile Gives money to politicians for charity and gotten a yes Or for their health or well-being of the voters and gotten a yes. No, everyone knows Exxon mobile Gives you money to buy you it is a bribe So since no one was saying it I thought look we've got to move the national conversation and It turns out Congress people can do that Exhibit A AOC exhibit B ro Khanna exhibit C Rashida Tlaib a lot Omar you get it all just Democrats all strong all progressive and all moving the national conversation We can do this. It just takes a little bit of courage to go out there and call it what it is Yeah, and the thing about you is you've kind of had this outsider strategy And you've been incredibly critical of Democratic Party leadership rightfully so you panned an op-ed I think it was earlier this year where you said that Nancy Pelosi is not a progressive That's obvious. I think but I'm curious How do you keep that level of pressure knowing that if you are in Congress? She could easily hold a committee assignment above your head and try to marginalize you within Congress So how do you call her out without dealing with those institutional disadvantages? Yeah, ain't nobody gonna marginalize me Or any other progressive as long as I'm in Congress So the most powerful thing in Congress is not a committee seat It's the mic that you hold on the floor of the house that's where you can move the country because Imagine if you had a congressman a sitting congressman go out there and say Listen guys, we're about to vote on a drug bill and Here are all of the bribes that the Republican Party is taking on that drug bill But I got bad news for you here are the bribes that the Democratic Party is taking on that drug bill That's why the Democratic Party is only talking about Negotiating prices for 25 drugs rather than all the drugs They're gonna leave a thousands and thousands of drugs unaddressed because they take money from drug companies. I mean that would Immediately be a bombshell a political bombshell That you would drop in the middle of the national conversation So that is way more powerful than any morsel that leadership would give you off the off their table It is a totally Wrong and ineffective strategy to go and beg leadership for a tiny little crumb off their table And wait 20 years to take any action the correct path politically not because it feels good But because it's pragmatic is to force a national conversation that they cannot win and we will definitely win We have the entire country on our side. No one else thinks it's not a bribe It is and it affects every issue health care Climate change guns you name it it all comes back to the same problem. These guys are serving their donors and not their voters So the question that I'm at that I want to ask you and what it sounds like you're saying by the way Is that you can't be reined in which I love and the Democratic establishment is going to hate the question I want to ask is what do you think the response will be to you because we're gonna see probably one of two things either They're going to attack you non-stop You'll be the new like darling of Fox News like AOC is or they're going to just try to ignore you What do you think that your approach will be with you because you will be someone who they can't really? Get to acquiesce. So how do you think they're gonna respond and do you think that will be effective? Yeah Good luck to them trying to ignore me I don't think it's gonna work. So And look they could do that honestly when I was on the young Turks We we've got over 12 billion views and I think we helped to move a generation and so did you Michael and and so did all these other wonderful progressive shows online and Millennials and Gen Z are 80% progressive and we've landed our ships in the next generations and they're already totally screwed but in today's Politics They could just say oh, well, yeah, I mean humanist report. That's online. Please. It's not on MSNBC So we're gonna ignore it. Okay.  It's just not possible. Now. What does that mean? They will fight me with everything they've got they were there already doing this from the kitchen sink at me Oh, did you know he said this 19 years ago? Did you know he said this 17 years ago? And on and on and on and then they turn around they say, did you know he criticizes Obama from the left Hey guys, make up your mind. Am I too far right or too far left? You got to get your tongue point straight when you are our Democratic Party hack So a lot of the groups in California that are part of the Democratic Party machine They all came out on the same day with the same exact talking points. Gee. I wonder how that happened Okay, that happened because they've got marching orders. This guy's not playing ball Take him down with deliberate speed. Well, okay what's happening though and what they didn't expect is now our army is fighting back and so I Told people online every time you see one of their bots or trolls Attack me online with old comments. Give me a dollar at jank2020.com until they cry mercy Okay, and believe me all they care about is money if they see us raising money every time they use their trolls and bots They're like, ah, okay. He's raising too much money for me. Okay backpedal backpedal backpedal. So They just disrespect us completely both in the online community and Progressives they think all they have is people. They don't have any money. Well, sad day for you guys. I've now had raised Significant amount of money. I appear to be in the lead in terms of money And I did it through 14,000 individual donations averaging 28 bucks my Democratic opponent her average is $2,700 That's insanity that's almost a max it's because she's got had like 150 Organizations give to her. It looks like there's only 22 actual human beings who gave to her 22 versus 14,000 they don't know what they're messing with so What if I go to Congress? It's not gonna be just me.  It's the people's house. I want to invite people in I know the Democratic Party machine hates that sad day for them We're gonna reclaim the Democratic Party for populism and for progressives It's exactly where the Democratic Party belongs and I love everything I'm hearing it seems like there's no way that they would be able to hold you down Even if they tried and they will try but my question is Will you be able to still co-host the young Turks or will you have to divest because can we use that as like a way of bolstering Your agenda in Congress or will you basically separate from the young Turks? How is that gonna work out? Yeah, so you if you win you can't have two jobs. So that means that I will not be a full-time host on the young Turks But that doesn't mean that I have to divest from the young Turks so almost all of the Folks in Congress have some sort of investments and in a sense young Turks would then become an investment for me After having put in 18 years on it, but most importantly just like other progressives come on the show now Whether they're candidates or Congress people I can come on anytime and be a guest host I could be a guest I could be a guest host So for example today Ro Khanna is on the show and he's a sitting member of Congress He's coming out as a guest so I can do that anytime I want and look In terms of online media, I was born in it Okay, so This is this is my home turf I'm not going anywhere. So I'll give interviews to Progressive online media outlets before I'll give it to TV I believe it in my bones and and I think that this is where the real revolution is So yeah, they won't be able to get rid of me online That's great. It's nice to have that platform because in the event they do go for the ignore strategy There's no way that that can work because you do have you know online progressive media behind you And you have this platform that you founded that is dedicated to the cause that you are promoting So I think that there's really like you are the worst case scenario for the establishment and I saw an article I think this was from the Daily Beast They called you the Trump of the left and the worry from Democrats The worry was that you would lose that seat or lose that district for them because it's a purple district Talk through the dynamics of that particular race because it's wide open currently There's a lot of people running for it, but explain why I already know the answer I'm sure most of my viewers know the answer, but for those of you who are unfamiliar about why you know Um, Jenk is being a firebrand in a purple district explain why this strategy is the winning strategy So a couple of parts parts to that. So first of all, I love that they So Daily Beast says, oh, it might endanger the district because he's Trump of the left I don't know if they know this Trump won so The Democratic Party did the same exact mistake In the national election as they're doing the 25th district. They said no, it's okay We've been knowing to the leader we handpicked her and she's best equipped to deal with a populist on the right Turns out they were 100 wrong She was almost the only person who could have lost to Donald Trump and she did Because they didn't believe in the voters. They didn't trust the voters They didn't want there to be a real primary They rigged everything on behalf of Hillary Clinton and it turned out that that is not the right way to run a party And then if you do it that way, you could even lose to a monster like Donald Trump Uh and also by the way an imbecile like Donald Trump. It's amazing that they lost to him We were right. They were wrong and here they are. They're trying to do it again They're like, no, we've been knowing to the leader in the 25th district and she's going to be a corporate democrat a centrist democrat that tries to appease republicans How could you possibly say that's more electable?  Uh, they've got no love for big business in palm dale or Lancaster Or simi valley or santa clarita none of these cities.  We're going to get you higher wages by focusing on renewable energy, which is perfect for the animal valley So solar energy wind energy higher paying jobs So you don't have to commute these are real issues And those real issues are the ones we win on if we have the courage to fight for our principles Instead of laying down to republicans. So if they want to go with that strategy God bless have added hoss, uh, then i will almost certainly win this election jen 2020.com i'm curious about the um, the situation in your district with regard to income I don't know if you know the numbers off the top of your head, but you're running a very populist, uh, you know working class Centric message, but it's around the los angeles area. Is that correct? So is it a higher income area in general? And if so, how do you kind of offset that? Do you know anything with regard to that because kyle kalinsky brought up a really good point the other day on his show About how in higher income areas, it's more difficult for progressives to win like they still can win But it's just a little bit more difficult. Like have you have you thought this through at all? Yeah, so, um Look, I love this district. It's perfect for us It's middle class through and through So the animal valley is a little bit poorer than the suburban part would just have to clear it out and see me valley And by the way because they're poorer they get ignored by the democratic machine And I ask that doesn't make sense. That's the more democratic area of the district Why is it ignored because they can't fundraise there because people are too poor Oh god, that's sickening So I don't need to go and fundraise from fancy people I love that it's a working class district. I love that it's middle class So those are exactly the kind of people that we could raise wages for not just minimum wage Of course, it should be $15 minimum wage nationally. It's already in california They pass the law But we need it to be national so that they're not trying to take jobs away from us by saying Oh, you can go pay people less in kentucky But it's not just for the minimum wage. It's for middle class Corporate power is also squeezing you guys And so and you know it in all of your lives because every dollar they give to their employees is a dollar less they make in profits Now if all of your politicians take money from those corporations, they're going to help them suppress your wages When you got to progress a fighter on your side, my whole job is to get you higher wages I guarantee you that that works better in a middle class district like the 25th and in a purple district like the 25th That's great to hear. I I do want to talk a little bit more about strategy So i'm not sure if you saw there was a poll from kaiser family foundation that found out that support for medicare for all Throughout the year had actually gone down slightly and support for a public option increase And I think that this is largely attributed to corporate democrats like joe biden and p butta judge just hammering away You know initially p butta judge for those of you who don't know supported medicare for all But he started taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from the health insurance industry and all of a sudden You know those legal bribes amounted to him Driving down support for medicare for all. So if you actually have a message with with regard to an issue like medicare for all Let's say hypothetically speaking best case scenario, bernie sanders is elected. You're in congress So there's going to be a lot of democrats who we're going to have to win over to get it passed Do you think that Shaming them essentially for taking these legalized bribes, which I think is the only way we should be characterizing it Do you think that will actually be effective at flipping people?  Yeah, so it's a three-part process First of all, you have to get people to real facts The reason the poll numbers i'm going to give for all are going on and some of the polls that they are is because the entire media And and all the corporate democrats and the entire republican party have all joined forces against essentially two people Bernie sanders and Elizabeth for and so now bernie's got the better medicare for all plan. That's why i endorse bernie but The amount of free media that they have put into bashing medicare for all is millions upon millions of dollars Now it might even be up to a billion dollars in essentially advertising against medicare for all But still in one recent poll it pulled at 55 percent It has withstood all of the assault so step one is tell people what it actually is So i was on cnn the other night And grisco almost said well, it doesn't get rid of private insurance I was on nbc today. They asked me the same thing doesn't get rid of private insurance Well, you've got to finish the sentence brother, okay? It gets rid of private insurance and gives you better insurance It gives you expanded coverage It covers more than all the private insurance out there now without any co-pays premiums and deductibles And it costs less because it gets rid of the middlemen the corporate executives the advertising the bureaucracy It costs less in every single country that has ever tried it So when you get people to real facts, they go, whoa, well, then what's the downside to which I say exactly Okay, so point one is getting the information point two is yes Shame people that are taking insurance company money drug company money and put it out there Say, hey, look if you want to defend taking three hundred and sixty thousand dollars from drug companies and you say that doesn't affect you Have added horse. Good luck to you But i'm going to tell people you're taking that money and then you deal with it any way you like and so this is called hardball and No one on the left has tried hardball for decades so Arguably, obviously aoc roe bernie have begun to do that and they've done a wonderful job at it But hardball is my expertise and then finally the third step is Yeah, i'm gonna put your name on a list and so those corporate democrats If they didn't already despise me, uh, they will have Significant issues with me But listen guys, if you're not voting with us on medicare for all green new deal getting money out of politics higher wages You're not voting with us Well, then we gotta get somebody who will and that's how politics works So if i'm in congress At your bottom dollar i'm making a list and then we're gonna we're gonna make sure that there are progressives that are coming for those books And i love that This is why i called you a wrecking ball because we need someone in congress who will make them afraid Like we have people who are speaking truth to power like aoc and roe conna but there's nobody who Is aggressive and i think that aggression in and of itself Is something that we can utilize to our advantage like we're no longer going to lie down And just take what you know the establishment says we should accept no those days are done and Getting you in congress would actually have someone that i think would almost for lack of a better word Intimidate corporate democrats into doing the bidding of the people which you shouldn't have to resort to that right like we shouldn't have to Intimidate them to do the bidding of the people But that's where we're at in american politics where everything is stupid and we're living in hell And we need someone like you to get in congress and basically um Make their lives miserable if they're going to continue to be corrupt So um, I know you've got to get going to host the main show before we leave give us your main pitch And i'll i'll kind of set you up with a softball so you can use your main catchphrase. Are you going to win this thing? Of course Okay, so Look in all seriousness, like um, nobody's ever seen a race like this Uh, so even bernie. I love the pieces, but he's too polite. Yeah And so no one has ever taken on the establishment with this kind of force so Can I accurately predict how the voters are going to react? to this kind of aggressive Attitude where I say i'm going to fight for you no matter what and that includes Fighting democratic party leadership if I have to I hope I don't have to wouldn't be great if they also represented the voters Wouldn't that be lovely? That's the whole point But that's that's who I am and I'm going to give them Who I am I'm not going to be a slick politician and change any stances to try to win votes No, I'm going to be honest with people tell them where I stand Tell them that they're getting their instinct that they're getting screwed over by the politicians is correct They are serving their donors and I'm not going to do that. I don't take corporate fact money I don't take lobbyist money. I'm going to serve the actual voters And uh, and they're going to run a classic Corporate democrat strategy almost all their Energy will be focused on trying to attack me personally and trying to do character assassinations They will avoid the issues at all costs because they're not right on a single issue They don't have the voters on their side on a single issue So they will run from the issues and run towards smears. Will it work? I don't know They'll have a ton of money That's why I asked people to give small donations if you can bigger ones great. I would love it Volunteer we're going to do rally in the valley every weekend. We're doing rallies come out and join us We're going to show them people power and so it's going to be the people versus the establishment The fights in the 25th come join us jank 2020.com if we win this It'll be a cannon shot over the heads of washington and we'll finally Be able to fight corruption together And i'll leave that there jank 2020.com. Let's change national discourse and not just shift the overton window to the left Let's yank it to the left aggressively and make sure that You know They Can't you know take us for granted. They can't ignore us any longer. So thank you so much for coming on the program jank It's been an absolute pleasure. We're rooting for you Thank you, mike. I really really appreciate it and look I actually end on this guys Me winning isn't the answer uh What we're going for at the end of the day is passing the bills If you don't pass the bills, then we didn't get anything accomplished We didn't get anything accomplished by getting progressives into office. We didn't get anything accomplished by being progressive media No, the whole objective is pass the damn bills You've got to get medicare for all you got to get an amendment to end private financing and elections You've got to pass the green new deal So when I play hardball, whether it's in the middle of a campaign like this or in congress The whole point is not for ego. It's not for pride It's it's not to get on tv No, it's to move the national conversation so you could pass the bills because that's what changes your lives If you didn't pass the bills, we didn't get anything accomplished So please whether it's during the campaign or if i'm lucky enough to make it into congress with your help In congress come join me So that we could put all the pressure on the world to actually get the legislation done So we change people's lives for the better Yeah, that's exactly what I want to hear. Thank you so much jank All right. Thank you, mike