Hey friends! An unboxing so tall that I'm just ahead in the background. They've all come kind of at the same time so I thought why not just open them all on camera because they're all kind of, they're pretty relevant and you guys seem to like the videos where I unbox random things on camera so we're gonna go with it. Featuring my donkey, he lives in my living room. I'm gonna start with these two so I have a commercial grade printer and I've had to order some things for them. DJB Studios, which makes me feel super legit. So this is like not super exciting but I did have to drive halfway across the town to go get these. Let's get to do vinyl. So this is a special kind of vinyl. This is called etch vinyl so it essentially you put it on your window and it makes it look like frosted glass. So you could frost out like a bathroom window but you can also cut designs into it. This stuff is super expensive to buy though so these are the the third piece of that. So essentially I buy like a 60 inch roll and then I pay the company to cut them into three. So I get three because my printer only cuts to 20 inches and this is not very exciting either. This is just glossy laminate. I prefer matte laminate like way over glossy and they forgot my blade that I paid for.  Is it in the tube somehow? Oh it's inside, that's a knife. There it is. So this is the removal blade thing that I got.  The next super fun you can already see what's on the front of the box. This is smooth cast. 15.4 pounds, this is a gallon. I have to move these ones closer because it's 13 far away. This one was already opened because I shipped it to my fiance's work and he decided to open it because he thought it was for him because it was addressed to him. It is from my favorite art store in Canada. Screwed up. This is the wrong stuff. This is supposed to be the aerosol can. Oh my god I bought 10. I need the aerosol one, that's what I thought this was going to be. I needed 10 of these not 10 of these. Anyways, I also got a wet palette. These are becoming really popular in the hobby. They essentially should never run out of paint and if you're painting you should be able to like close this and walk away. For $20 this is essentially a paid myself but whatever. So let's lighten the mood with this package. This is a sticker meal box so I don't order stickers from sticker meal but I have ordered some fun stuff. I recently got packing tape which was really cool. My heart can't handle all of this like incorrectness lately. It's not bad, they're not great because they're translucent and the back is really ugly. These were just like another promo that sticker meal was doing. I'll bring it closer. It's a little funky chain. And this is the last box I saved the best for last because that's my favorite way to play the unboxing game. I'm excited to see this one come up for sale. Oh but he's so cute. Oh I love him. So this guy is I believe it's Lance a lot and he was a gambler's choice. All right so thanks for coming to this super impromptu unboxing. But we got some good stuff, we got some stuff we needed, we got some boring stuff, we got some stuff to try, some fun stuff just cuz and it all came in like the same two days. So that's always fun and it's always fun to just film a video just for kicks. Thank you so much for watching. This has been DJB Studios and happy unboxing. I don't know happy spending way too much money on art supply.


This is a supplement, this is a fifth video in the series, but I recorded it fourth, but we'll call it the fifth one anyway. This is about what you finally do when it is time to read unadapted ancient Greek. Here are some of the tools you may find yourself using.  In front of the camera right now is Little and Scott's Intermediate Greek English Lexicon. This is called the Middle Little, for those of you who are looking for a cute name for it. There is a bigger one called the Great Scott, and then there is a small one called the Little Little. I think for most learners' purposes the Middle Little is probably going to do the trick. It's a Greek English dictionary, Greek here, definitions, some examples of use, not very many. He'll explain how some specific authors use specific words. He may give you information about, well, they. They may give you specific information about what dialect this word is apt to show up in. This is really the gold standard, and you're not going to find too many copies of this used, because if you see it used, that means someone has died. This is the sort of book that goes into your library and never comes out. You should be able to pick up the Middle Little for about $50 or so. It's probably the one you would want to use just for ordinary casual use, for serious use you want to stop up to the Great Scott. Got this one, borders one out of business, lucky me. Oh my goodness, it's a translation. This is from the Oxford World's classics. This is the Plato Symposium, and there's nothing much to say other than get familiar with the content of what's in the unadapted Greek. This is for students who are just beginning find out what it is you're learning how to read, get excited about it, get yourself some real motivation here. Oxford World's classics, Penguin classics, there's all sorts of inexpensive translations of all of the major authors. Find who you like, read it, and if you like them in English, you'll like them even better in ancient Greek. I don't know what else to say other than that. However, one final tool. This is my copy of Herodotus's Histories, book one published by Geoffrey Steadman. He is the author of the notes and commentary, and also the publisher. He's done these on demand, so then that way they're never out of print and they're never out of stock, and it's just great.  You should read ancient Greek. What he's done is he's reproduced a public domain copy of the Oxford text, which is a critical text that is our best guess as to what the text actually was when Herodotus wrote it. Down here is the apparatus, which, well, if you're an intermediate reader like I am, there's no need to fuss with that. So here's the unadapted Greek, and over here, Steadman gives us all of the vocabulary words that occur fewer than 15 times. He gives us the words, so here we have apos, apios, toe, a word. It happens 11 times in book one of the histories.  And how do you get in the club while you read a bunch of ancient Greek? Well, how did you get to do that? Well, I don't remember. I just read ancient Greek now. And in the back, he has the full vocabulary for the ones that happen more than 15 times. So we have like thala, thala sa, he, si, happens 22 times. So this book is really quite self-contained, and it's published. It's printed on demand, so you don't need to wait around for the publishing company to get up on this. You can just buy a copy directly from amazon.com and Stedman gets a little bit of money and you get the book, and it's all very, very exciting and good, and you don't have to wait around for someone to decide, well, it's worth our time to print a couple thousand copies of this. Now, Stedman's going to make it available so that you can get one copy at a time. He's done other books. My understanding is he's working on Herodotus' History's book seven. He's done Plato's Symposium. He's done some of the Iliad and the Odyssey. He's really doing a phenomenal favor to anyone who wants to read Ancient Greek and is not at a really advanced level. I can't say enough about what he's doing.


Yes, my presentation is in the beginning a little bit more generic and not only focus on our company but I will get there also. We are all students in this industry now because it is so new and especially around token sales and ICOs and there are so many different models, I don't think I've seen two identical ICOs yet and if learning from mistakes makes you better I should be pretty close to experts soon because we have done a lot of the mistakes that hopefully people coming up after will not do. We have been looking very closely at a lot of the other token sales. We have learned from a lot of them. We established a very solid advisory board very early but we didn't take their advice. Error number one, first of all we went very quick to market. Our advisor said you need to give yourself multiple months of marketing you need to build up a community around it. We thought that we could push it out through social media and build a community very quickly. We looked at what David and Gorang with Indorse did. They were traveling around doing road shows. When David was in China and Vietnam doing meetings Gorang's was flying all over Europe presenting their business and building a community and they spent time on doing that and resulted in I'm not sure around 1500 people on Yuslak channel today which is quite amazing from doing these road show right so there is a lesson learned for those of you that are planning token sales start early build a community because only a lot of postings on Facebook and LinkedIn and stuff that won't cut it because people need to know who they are dealing with they want to know about the team they want to know about the projects and especially now maybe some months ago when we were sitting and marking off this is a good ICO this one I'm gonna join and you were waiting for three weeks till it starts but today it's changed there is like multiple ICO starting every single day and by the way did you mention your date August 8th it starts same date as ours two totally different concepts we copied the Beijing Olympics so ours start 0 8 0 8 8 minutes past 8 p.m. then it's when when the counter hits 0 but scaring me I can do a little bit on the background story of cost because as David my original idea was actually also social media I started to develop what I called a one-stop solution for social media because I looked at all the channels and to me Twitter is under sharing Facebook is over sharing LinkedIn is for professionals you have all of these different channels and most of you are using all of them or at least many of them so you log in there you log in there log in there log in there so if you want things done fast and well higher lazy person to do it right because he will find the easy way to do it so maybe I'm that lazy person so because I wanted to gather all of this into one platform but with sort of different rooms you can enter where you had your Twitter and you had your LinkedIn you had your Facebook with walls and combining all of this then inside this social community this was not on the blockchain it was not related to cryptocurrency we were looking at Facebook and looking at this was before they are IPO so and they were talking about Facebook credits so we were also then planning an internal credit to be used in the system then somebody asked why don't you accept cryptocurrency and start looking into cryptocurrency and I was a token newbie I had barely heard about it and I figured out the onboarding process for crypto was very complicated especially if you're not a techie for those that have been in the industry we had some chats yesterday who has been longest in the tech and they've here have been chopping holes in data cards back in the 80s and stuff so but for newcomers to enter I wanted to go in and look at it and I mean there was there is a jungle of wallets out there you don't know which one to choose right but even if you get a wallet you still don't have any Bitcoin or any group of currency so then you have to figure out where can I buy them okay there are exchanges there are probably as many exchanges as there are tokens almost now there are hundreds right which one are good which one is bad which one have the volume which don't which have a security which don't right and then the next one if you run a store or a shop and you want to accept cryptocurrency then you wanted to go through a payment gateway and not just send direct wallet to wallet and payment gateways for cryptocurrencies there are a few not very many but at the same time you don't know which one is good which one offered this which one offered that so then we sort of pivoted the entire idea of then changing over to crypto one-stop solution and instead of a social media one-stop solution so cost is short for crypto one-stop solution where at phase one we are today 124 days into our beta launch we went live on April 1st and phase one is developed in-house so we have a platform we have developed a cryptocurrency exchange with currently around 25 trading pairs we're adding new tokens and new coins on almost a daily basis now we have developed a payment gateway and a POS systems for merchants that wants to start accepting cryptocurrency which is a huge demand for out there and there is more and more onboarding we have a proof of developer listing that is basically brand new we have a token market cap overview we have merchant listing and those are the things that we did now in the initial stage so the platform is already up and running we are as I said 124 days into the process we have so far registered around 3000 trading accounts and we have onboarded around 150 plus merchants already that are now integrating our POS system to start accepting cryptocurrencies they are from multiple countries from Japan Korea Malaysia Singapore several countries in Europe and we are seeing an increasing demand so far we have not opened up for self-registration so actually they have to submit the form then our merchant manager will get in touch with them and they will work on a process but we are targeting around 1st of September to have all the plugins the rest APIs and everything ready so so you can just plug in to your existing system your web shop solution or whatever when if you want to start accepting the group of currency and basically you can take off which group of currencies you want to accept all of the currencies traded on the cost exchange will also be on available on the payment gateway so you can accept for example I I assume that we will pretty fast after their ICOs list both Hello Gold tokens and we will list the indoors token so even if you run a coffee shop you should be able to accept indoors token IND for a cup of coffee right and the system is there it is just to plug in so it is added also user cases for the other tokens that comes from other token sales but when we talk about token sales this is the more generic part upon creation the tokens have zero value right I attended a speech earlier I know several of you were there by Dr. Gavin Woods when he presented parity and he was basically on stage with a mic in one hand and his computer coding with the other hand and he launched a token in was it fifty one second that is how complicated it is to create the cryptocurrency today right of course that's that's just to put a token out there and he can then put in the parameters and decide should there be a hundred should it be a million should there be a billion should it be 21 million like like Bitcoin should there be over a hundred billion like ripple or those is up to you but the amount doesn't matter because hundred times zero or one billion times zero is still zero the value upon creation is zero and then it's when it starts that is when the job starts to add value add user cases doesn't have to mean in money return but that can be user cases right with an added value for example the the indoors token where you have a user case you're using it when you are endorsing but at the same time it's also a tradable one so that can increase in value over time when you see the increased user cases of it so there is a whole ecosystem to the different revenue models most token sales use the ERC tokens that is based on the Ethereum platform they are easy to make of course you need to know I could probably not do it because I'm not a tech guy but they are easy to make fast to make upon creation zero value and then the work starts why am I am I too close I guess there are multiple revenue models for tokens and as I said opening wise I still haven't seen two identical ICOs there are different user cases there are different revenue streams some have a revenue share some are using dividends it's a little bit more dangerous word to use these days especially after what SEC and MAS have announced some have specific use cases some have access that you needed to onboard for example a platform and to get access to your products to use a software there are so many multiple models I've looked at a few of them these are all based here in the region fund yourself now is a also a Singapore startup they ended their ICO yesterday they had a fairly modest cap and they and they reached it and their token is actually going trading as the first pair against Ethereum tomorrow at 4 p.m. on cost of time so we're happy also to work with them they have a model where they are building actually a crowd funding slash ICO slash token sale slash token generating event slash whatever you want to name it but a platform to host ICOs in a way and their revenue model is that the ICOs that wants to be presented on their platform needs to have a portion of the sale that is only accepting as their FY end token so there is a user case similar to what EOS is doing now with what they call a tandem ICO they are buying the EOS token now especially in the China market because there will come a larger ICO a bit later where 20% can only be paid in EOS so they are creating a use the case with another use the case but they are they are sharing profits from these projects and reinvesting in in the projects fund yourself now they are in beta targeting to launch their live version early 2018 you have indoors I don't have to go so very much into that model because David have just done a good job I put this this is just my interpretation of it that it is participation based and there is also a pool token and there is a value driver for that you are getting that onboarding advertisers and stuff have to they can buy the token on exchanges etc. from the token holders and then use the IND token to pay for advertising on the platform so there is a use the case and there are pools that again will will generate your revenue as a token holder if my understanding of IND is correct it's always dangerous to talk about people that are in the room we have 10x everybody knows about 10x they made a Singapore community proud by hitting an all-time high and raised around 80 million yes between 70 and 80 all depends on the enterprise so and that goes a bit up and down lately so I've called them a revenue share and a participation cashback model because they have a split model where their business model is based on a cashback from Mastercard they are open about this the numbers out there in the white papers and everything so I'm not revealing any secrets if I recall correctly they are having a 2% cashback from the card providers out of those fees they are giving 0.5% to the token holders paid in Ether and then all the card holders are getting a 0.1% but that is paid in their own token which is called pay PAY so there is a mixed model where they are giving out both Ether that I would call of current value on the other side they are giving out the pay token which is more based on potential future value it is already tradable so you can call it also present value anyway because you can already now trade it on multiple exchanges with fairly nice trading value very quickly they did an amazing marketing job they really built a strong community before they started very skilled people that are out there with they are doing live presentations on on Facebook at least weekly with Julian they have a solid team here in Singapore so absolutely and I know that probably many in this room are already holding some pay tokens because they participated they know I'm not gonna go there you almost went there yourself you did you just didn't mention where but it is all good we have Hello Gold which is a what what do we call it banking in gold for the underserved and you will hear more about them afterwards and they can they can probably go more into details but it's a revenue share in savings in form of gold backed tokens and the the GBT will be will enable crypto investors to cash out of normal tokens into gold as opposed to fiat so there is also a sort of a split revenue model because it comes with two tokens in the system so but I'm not going too much into details on the Hello Gold one because the next speaker is from Hello Gold then we have our model ours I've classified as a revenue share base where we have this this sign this model that we call the cost fair share model on the cryptocurrency exchange if we start over here the transaction fee when you are trading starts at 0.2% it can get it get lower based on your own trading volume whatever peer you are trading if you for example are trading Bitcoin to eat there both taker and maker pays a fee right and one can have 0.2% fee but the other guy can have higher trading volume so he is on 0.18 so that that can vary but whenever a trade goes then there is a fraction of a Bitcoin and there's a fraction of an eater that is being paid in transaction fees those fees goes into the transaction fee buckets 50% of those fees are then going back again to token holders not in the form of the cost token but if the fee is collected in Bitcoin it is paid out in Bitcoin if it is collected in ether it is paid out in ether if it is connected collected in pay or IND or whatever currency that is traded on the cost platform it is paid out in that one so in a way when you're holding a cost token you are sort of hedging it against all the other tradeable ones and the more tradable and the higher trading volume a cryptocurrency have the bigger portion of the transaction fee will be in that one so basically unless you plan to trade the cost token you really don't have to look at the trading price of it because you can just buy it and you can park it just put it aside put it on a paper wallet and lock it in your safe and you don't think about it and on a weekly basis there will be paid out fractions of Bitcoin, Ether, Taos, NEM, ARC whatever currency is that the fees are collected in at the same time so you're basically building your portfolio for the payment gateway all merchants and around the world that starts to plug in start accepting cryptocurrencies now we are talking bigger numbers because I mean people can buy a car with Bitcoin for example people can down the road buy a house they can buy holidays they can buy travels we already have energy company from Europe on board that currently have 70,000 clients and they are offering now to pay their gas and electricity bills in cryptocurrency through our payment gateway the transaction fee there is 0.75% 50% of the fee go back to the token holders the same as with with the currency these are the current two features we have but we are adding more and more features and as long as the features involves a transaction fee or a fee that comes to costs it will be split 50-50 and go in to the distribution model and go back to the token holders so instead of only trading potential future value which will be the cost token in itself because as I said upon creation the value is zero you are actually earning in current value in form of Bitcoin and Ether and all those tradeable ones is a little bit just short of what I said cost is short for crypto one-stop solution we have a huge roadmap we have signed up a lot of partnerships already of services that will be added once the token sale is over we have a backlog of services that will be added on to costs I can mention a few of them is B2B remittance through a Singapore based company we have P2P remittance with a Philippine company we have screening of incoming transactions for white listing similar to what what David talked about from CoinFirm that are screening especially for now they are only doing Bitcoin and Dash but if the if the wallets have ever been involved in or red flags from Silk Road similar activities the incoming transactions will be rejected so and that's to try to avoid that those people uses exchanges to move the funds in swap it around and move it out again so that that is for added security we have the non-strategic partnership also with fund yourself now so we're gonna help and build the entire ecosystem for doing ICOs and crowdfunding through we have a partnership now also with ICO rating and TAS and if you add to the fund yourself now you basically you have and our exchange then you have a company like ICO rating that can validate and sort of audit your white papers and and given an investor score then you can host the ICO through the services of fund yourself now and once the sale is over you can list the token and it can all be done then through the same platform which is cost so all of these services will be added onto the platform and we are right now we are basically signing to 3M or use with companies per week so and we are getting a big backlog of implementations our token swap starts August 8th same as indoors it will start 8 minutes past 8 p.m. in the evening a copy of the Beijing Olympics one eater 600 cos we have a bonus system where the first five days will give a 15% bonus and then it will decline for every five-day period the sale ends on 6th of September I'm gonna be honest we have set a high cap we have no minimum cap but we also modest in our approach and say we don't expect to sell out we have no minimum cap we have an internal happy cap and there is a hard cap the hard cap is very high it is based on a three to five year roadmap where the funds will be locked and held an escrow by two Singapore law firms and one rep from the advisory board they will be released annually throughout 2018 2019 and 2020 in equal portions based on that the multi-sig private key holders which are the two law firms and one from the advisory board approves the management budget that we need to present on an annual basis so even if the cap is high it is not and this is also a lesson learned from other ICOs that are raising 50 million hundred million and they are stating throughout their ICO that they have an escrow but the escrow is only for the ICO once the ICO is over boom there they have 50 million right and those money are supposed to last they're supposed to last long to build your business the work starts basically when you're token sale is over so you need to make sure and also tell the public your your model for this how you plan what is your strategy going forward so to ensure that you don't get in that there is a lot on the different chats where people are are using the word Lambo right you're raising 100 million and then the next day there is five in the executive team that all suddenly have read Lamborghini's parked outside that is not the purpose of token sale right and show the show the world tell the world that that is not your intention and say why this is not even possible because there won't even be available money to buy lambos because it will be portioned along with the growth of the company and you have milestones that you reach some are using milestones based releases also can be a good model but have it vetted to have it controlled by someone outside there is not one single shareholder there is not one single from the management not one single stakeholder in the company that will hold any of the private keys for our escrow that is basically it's the process is fairly easy we are also aware of all of these camps we have done a slightly different model we have built the ICO engine ourselves we are hosting it ourselves so basically you register on cost of IO then you can click on contribute now you are basically generating an account with cause you get a verification email you have to click on that to validate your accounts you create the password so you have your own password protect the dashboard so you log in there and when the counter hits zero there will be an option to click for contribute now and a unique ethereum address will be generated for you only so doesn't matter which chat you see if it's telegram what's up even our own slack channel or whatever there will never be posted any address because every contributor will have its own unique address that is only visible behind your own password protect the dashboard so that is is our way of ensuring that our job then is only to tell people about that process that's so you don't get scammed that there won't be any address out there for anyone to post so whenever if you see anyone posting that this is the address for cause it's fake it's a scam because nobody knows we don't even know because it gets generated when you click the button and that is behind password protected area then you contribute you will instantly see how many cost tokens you are entitled to the now system that will start generating revenue is targeted to go live on 1st of October we wanted to have the gap between the trading start of the token and the release of the Dow as minimum as possible so we decided that we are releasing and starting trading of the cost token on September 20th the sales ends on September 6th so two weeks later the token will be released and then another 10 to 12 days later the Dow will start his first revenue share of course in the beginning it will be fractions it will be small we have big goals and big dreams our long-term vision is to become a top 10 exchange within three years and also a top 5 preferred payment gateway for cryptocurrencies in the current market to hit top 10 on exchanges it requires around hundred million dollars in daily trading volume what that number will be three years from now I don't think you will reach top 25 with 100 million so depends of course if if the world centralizes a bit but the process is easy on board showing dashboard and hope to see many of you participating from Tuesday on words thank you


Thank you so much. As-salamu alaykum everybody. So I'm going to take you all back with me about 15 years and we're going to go back down my memory lane to Elm tree the homeschooling cooperative that Mariam just mentioned and I Was one of the language art teachers at Elm tree and I taught all the way from I started with third grade And I went all the way to eighth grade. I taught all the grades there But one of the jobs I also had at Elm tree was to go into the preschool room every day and Read picture books for half an hour to the three and four year olds And there's this one little girl who has always stood out in my mind for the past 15 years She's in college now. Mashallah And she would be sitting in the preschool circle and when I would read picture books to the group I had her full attention She would be completely focused. She wouldn't fidget She wouldn't make any noise She would be able to ask answer very intelligent and deep questions that were asked of the group She would answer intelligently and she would be able to predict what was going to happen next She was able to discern what the message of the story was And that really blew me away because I knew that this little girl her mother Didn't speak much English. She had only been in the country a few years and she was still learning English Now alhamdulillah. She speaks English just fine. But at that time English was a bit of a challenge for her So I was really fascinated to know why this little girl was so attached to books and had a good grasp of books Whereas the other children in the group whose parents were born and raised here They had a harder time focusing so I asked her father And her father told me Something very interesting. He said that every single day He read three picture books to his daughter He would go to the library He would pick out books that he chose or he would pick out books from his own childhood that he remembered enjoying And he would read her three picture books And we were seeing the results of that in the classroom in that preschool circle And that is something that pretty much every language arts teacher can assess attest to I've been teaching language arts now Masha'Allah for over three decades And in the past 30 plus years Me and all the other language arts teachers we have noticed the same things again and again. We have seen that Students who have high levels of vocabulary Students who are able to write complex sentences Students who have a really good grasp of grammar Students who are able to Figure out the deeper motivations behind what characters are doing in books All of these students what they had in common was that they were avid readers They were prolific readers and they were being read to at home And they were reading constantly themselves so In the late 1990s we saw an uptick here in the united states of america and even around the world But it started like amira mentioned from the us and in the late 1990s the book publishing industry Saw a huge steep What would we call it slope go up? in book sales and The book publishers were doing really well and books were flying off the shelves And stores like borders and barns and noble were very very popular in the late 1990s And social scientists have studied this phenomenon to find out what was happening in the late 1990s to make So many people be attached to books and they Paired it down to three different factors that were happening at that time The first factor that they give credit to is oprah win-free They said that oprah win-free When she started her book club on her show a lot of kids today Even you know young adults wouldn't know who oprah win-free is but at that time She had the most popular daytime talk show and she was very passionate about books They say on average she would read three books over a weekend is what I read about her And so she would just really passionately discuss books that she really enjoyed and those books Overnight would become bestsellers andrew. I don't know how to pronounce his last name. It's either dubus or dubu But and andre dubu who wrote the house of sand and fog. He said that oprah win-free single-handedly Saved him from poverty. He was Very he was struggling. He was a struggling writer. Nobody knew about his book. She read it She recommended on her show and overnight he became a multimillionaire bestselling author The second factor they say is in the late 1990s about what made books really popular is that the world was introduced to a young man named harry potter Harry potter blew all the theories out of the water jk rolling created this character introduced him in 1997 People at that time were saying no child is going to read a 500 plus page long book And harry potter approved him approved all those theorists wrong Children were willing to stand in line for hours to buy 500 plus long page books and The third factor That they saw in the late 1990s is that the internet became very popular and books And articles and magazines were suddenly Accessible at the touch of a fingertip and all of a sudden people had access to books even in the remotest villages and towns So what we see from that is that If people show Enthusiasm for books the way oprah win-free did and they're excited about books It's contagious and if people know that they're not going to be tested and they're not going to be quizzed They're just going to have discussions about books. They're going to be more willing to pick up a book and read it I still have Peers who will tell me like when I mention that I love the book of my sin men by john steinbeck I have a friend who said oh my god. I hate that book And I asked her why and she said oh our teacher made us analyze that book to death And I had to write like three papers about that book I I just remember hating it and that's often what happens a book can be analyzed to death Most people just want to have discussions and enjoy books The other thing we saw is that if you have good characters and good stories People are going to be willing to pick up a book and read it even if it's more than 500 pages long And the third thing we saw from the internet is that if books are accessible People are going to read them if they're easy to get to Now there's a very inexpensive reading kit that I can tell you about that everyone here can have in their own homes So that they can create an environment in which their children are going to want to read So the reading kit you just think of the three b's the three b's the first b is books Every child should own their own books Yes, you should go to the library and yes, it's fine to go to used bookstores But every child should also have a pristine copy of their own book They can write their name in and that they keep for themselves And they should have access to books The second b is bookshelves Or book baskets So in their bedrooms every child should have a book basket next to their bed or a bookshelf in the room In which they can display their books and show them off And the third b is Bed lamp or book lamp and that was one of the little prizes that the the kids got for answering questions Getting a book light. So at night All the kids should be told after they've done their prayers and said their aura then read their Quran and they brush their teeth And they've gotten into bed They should have a little book light or a bed light next to their bed Which can allow them to read their books for like maybe another 10 15 minutes before they have to go to sleep And what happens with that is that these children then get to associate coziness and comfort and the safety of their home with the environment of reading books Now, how do you know if you are successfully raising a lifelong reader? Every single student If that student can answer these three questions you with a with with a response Then you know that you are raising a reader. The first question you ask is what is the last book that you read? The second question you ask is what are you reading right now? And the third question is what do you want to read next? If the children can answer these questions, you know that you have got A lifelong reader inshallah Now, how do we create an environment where children actually want to read? Studies have shown That the primary factor for success for children wanting to read is if they are coming from an environment Where reading is being role modeled So the adults in the home are reading as well Not just the children and that and we're not talking about reading on your laptop or on your phone Every adult should have a book There should be a stack of books on your coffee table in your family room that you're making your way through And your kids kids should see that you power down your phones you turn off the tv And you know you sit around and you read books And it's a contagious Contagious feeling to to want to it's infectious to want to read when you see people around you reading And the second thing that kids need to see is they need to see respect and reverence for books So we should be teaching our children how to handle books that you don't get them dirty You don't throw them around you don't put them on the floor, right? And you don't scribble on them. You don't dog ear the pages Now what are some of the benefits that we see in children who read avidly? So some of the benefits we see with the primary benefit that I see in all my students who are prolific readers Is an incredible grasp of a high level of vocabulary I have a niece who when she was six or seven years old Her little brother who was three years old was doing something naughty and she looked at him and she said He is such a rap scallion And all of us were like rap scallion. Where did she get the word rap scallion from and we found out that her mom at That time was reading huckleberry to her and that's where she learned that word I have another friend whose son she gave him permission to go into a room to get something and he just turned to her and said Oh, I can just go in there at will He's five years old. I can go in there at will And she found out that he was reading a book that was a british book and that's how they spoke so he picked that up I have a student. I was teaching just the other day and we came across the word disparage And I asked him, do you know what disparage and he's an avid reader and I said, do you know what disparage means? And he's like, um, doesn't that mean to disdain things? So he responded with another equally high level word um I had another student who we came across the word dismal in a book and I asked her Do you know what dismal means and she said doesn't that mean dreary? But my one of my favorite stories, however Is this young girl that I taught last year who was in the fifth grade And this girl in hails books in hails them and one of my biggest challenges of teaching her was finding a book that she hadn't read And it it actually got very embarrassing. She was in the fifth grade. She had already read frankenstein She had already read pride and prejudice It got to the point that she was willing to read a book again Just so I could have a chance to read it for the first time her teacher So we were reading johnny termaine And in johnny termaine it described that the soldiers they were walking down the road and they had a gimlet eyed stare And I was like gimlet eyed stare. I'm not sure what that means. Let me hold on. Let me look that up And she's like, oh, I know I was reading a book the other day and in that book They they talked about a gimlet and a gimlet is a drill that bores holes in metal So it must mean that they have a piercing stare That's literally what gimlet eyed meant Okay, so high levels of vocabulary, that's what comes from reading the primary thing that we see It also lowers levels of aggression studies have shown that especially in boys It it calms them down It trains children in high levels of focus We're in an age of distractibility and with a book you are sitting there and you are focused and you are reading It teaches kids about the world around them If a child is sitting there and he hears his dad and his friend talking and they're talking about Some savvy investor in stocks and they say oh that guy he has the Midas touch A kid who has read the book king Midas and the golden touch will understand What it means if somebody who's investing in stocks has the Midas touch It means everything they touch turns to gold, right? They do well So it teaches children about the culture and the world around them So how do we introduce books to children? This is what I like to do and I am going to have mariam Help me out here So I am still teaching Alhamdulillah even now and I also work with preschoolers and I really enjoy introducing books to preschoolers because it's a whole new world That's being introduced to them And I start out with for example, if I had a book like this, this is not a preschool level book But if I had a book like this I would start out by going Is this a hard cover or is it a soft cover? And I would also tell them another word for soft cover is paperback and all the kids would say hard cover And then I would ask them. Do you know what this is? On the on the book this thing that I just took off most of them will say book cover But then I'll tell them another word for book cover is dust jacket And why do you think it's called a dust jacket? Because dust jackets protect the books from dust and also from getting smudges on them Now just like you have a name books have names too every book has its own name And that book is called that name is called a title But guess where else the title is it's not just on the front cover Oh, by the way, I also tell them talk to them about front cover and back cover I tell them about pages show them the pages and what they're called Then I talk to them about how every book has a name and the name is called a title And then I ask them Do you guys know what you have going down your back and then we talk about what a spine is And I tell them, you know a spine helps us stand up straight If your spine is straight you sit down stand up straight But if your spine is curved you're going to curve over and they all kind of practice showing them how they can sit up Straight and how they can curve over Like well guess what every book has a spine also that helps it stand up straight Do we ever want to put books like this on the ground? No, why not? Because the spine can break we don't want to break the spines of our books Then I also talk to them and I introduce these concepts gradually over the course of weeks in preschool Talk to them about who an author is and who an illustrator is an author is the person who writes the stories You see the writing on the pages That's the story the illustrator is the person who draws the pictures You know another fancy word for pictures illustrations Can the same person be the author and the illustrator? Yes So that's basically oh and then also I I chose this book in particular because I wanted to show That many picture books will have this sticker on it If you've got quality books in your classroom They will have this sticker on it and this is the caldecott medal and the caldecott medal is medal given for the best illustrations in a book that year if it's gold They were the number one place winner. If it's silver it means an honorable mention They were close to winning. They didn't win first place But their illustrations are considered beautiful and so children are really fascinated with that and after that They will noticing which books have caldecott medals on them. And if they're silver or gold, thank you And then the last thing I tell every child from preschool all the way up to high school Is that no matter what kind of book you are reading whether it's a picture book whether it's a Detective novel whether it's science fiction whether it's a coming of age story whether it's a memoir Every single book at the end of the day is a mystery And you are the detective And the mystery that you are trying to solve is to figure out What is the message in this book that you are being given?  Even if it's a painting The creator of that art has a message that they are wanting to put out in the world And it is your job to figure out what was the message in this book that I read And is it a message I agree with Is it a message I accept? Is it a message that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and the prophets a la alaihi salam are also giving me Is it a message that my parents are teaching me at home and want me to take take in and embody And if not What do we do? And letting the kids know that not all books are worth reading Not all messages are the messages you want to absorb. So you have to be a discerning reader, right? Okay, and Conclude just this part of the talk Um There is an author a man named jim trelease who He came out with a compilation of books and he titled it the read aloud handbook And every four or five years he would publish a new version of the read aloud handbook And from what I have managed to gather from his essays that I have read I think he's a conservative christian though. He doesn't say it But everything he says kind of aligns with the values that we muslims have mashaAllah and So he talks about the value of reading aloud and he does mention that there is a difference between a good read aloud And just a good book not every good book out there makes for a really good read aloud And so read alouds have very specific criteria And what he did was every few years he would release this list of picture books That he thought were worth reading aloud to children and I loved Loved the read aloud handbook every four or five years. I bought it. I bought old copies I have every single copy that's ever been published from the 1970s all the way to the 1990s And he no longer releases those books. I think he's too elderly now. He has a website But anyway a few years ago we were talking about it and I was telling amirah About this man named jim trelease who's kind of done the work for us and has picked out some really Good picture books that we can safely, you know read to our children And amirah at that time said, you know, we need something like that for muslims We need somebody who's reading books from the islamic perspective through the muslim lens and knows whether You know, this book is worth reading to our children or not And she's like somebody needs to create it and I was like, yeah, somebody needs to create it And that is exactly what these young women have done. Mashallah these four young women They've been working on it for the past few years and I'm incredibly proud of them And I'm so excited to be able to be part of their journey in in helping them promote You know mindful reading for muslims and so Before I conclude, I wanted to just go through some really quick tips about do's and don'ts of read aloud Are we okay on time? Okay, so You want to introduce the title the author and illustrator every single time you read a book to your child You want to remember that your attitude towards the book matters if you are bored with the book don't read it Okay, read books that you enjoy reading because your enthusiasm is going to show Especially in the preschool age look for rhythm and rhyme as a parent you are going to get bored of reading books that are Repetitive with rhythm and rhyme my husband used to hate reading the little engine that could That I think I can I think I can but every night we would read I think I can I think I can because our kids loved it And the message in that book was what? That you can persevere right you have to have grit and you you can do it if you think you can do it Inshallah you want to look for simple images Again, this is we're talking about preschool level books simple images not a lot going on simple sentences and words As they get older it's going to get more sophisticated you want to create a routine around reading So for every family it's going to be different for some people It'll be like maybe the father reads to the children while the mom is getting dinner on the table Or maybe the mom reads to the kids when they're in bed right before they fall asleep But there should be some routine to reading Okay, so that the kids can look forward to it And you want to be patient when you see that your kids are fidgeting And know that they're going to come around inshallah they're going to get it In in the beginning it is hard for kids to concentrate, but they get it over time You want to read above children's intellectual levels because what studies have shown Is that they can't read above their intellectual levels, but they can listen above their intellectual levels So they can listen to sophisticated vocabulary and uh more complicated grammar However, you don't want to read above their emotional levels And that's honestly that's a problem I have with some of the islamic picture books that are coming out Because some of the islamic picture books can be really intense like a lot of our books are about like battles and wars and You know, there's a time to introduce that I personally in islamic picture books I love the books that talk about The five senses that how Allah gave me ears with which I can hear and then talking about all the different things You can hear and Allah gave me eyes with which I can see in the early years You just want to teach kids about the wonder of the world and how Allah's panathala is behind it all So you want to avoid long descriptive passages If you're reading a novel you want to end on a suspenseful part and end at a cliffhanger So that the kids are eager to continue reading the next day. You want to make it cozy You can have hot chocolate and blankets. You can read in front of the fireplace again Kids you want them to associate positive feelings with being read to Let them take their time to look at the pages if they don't want you to turn the page because they really want to inspect the illustrations let them Be expressive your tone matters If it's a suspenseful part start whispering if it's an exciting part start speaking louder Do different voices for the different characters and then have a discussion at the end about what was the message of the book Okay, take your time. Don't rush through the book Let them okay if you've got fidgety readers who have a hard time sitting there let their hands be busy Give them paper. Give them crayons. Let them draw They will still be listening and they will occasionally look up to see you know the pictures on your book And that's fine. You'll be surprised how much they're taking in Reading aloud is a wonderful time to bond for fathers and their children It's an excellent excellent way for dads to bond with their kids. My husband. He read The the Iliad he read a version of the Iliad with my boys and taught them Greek mythology and it took a lot It took like a year to get through all those stories Esops fables which teach beautiful messages and morals So it's a great time and then the kids remember it when they're older You want to definitely limit their screen time? After you're done reading a really great book like sarah plain and tall for example in third grade You can watch the movie of it as a family because it's a clean movie and it's done pretty much true to the book But but otherwise avoid, you know cartoons and and and movies and all that stick to books for entertainment And invest in that time Oh, and don't use reading aloud as a bribe or a punishment. Don't tell your kids if you don't finish dinner I'm not going to read to you tonight But a reading book should not be linked to anything else except that it's your routine and you do it with your children, right? And that that's it. Okay, so I hope that was helpful and inshallah. I think you're going to really enjoy the rest of Uh, their presentation inshallah Uh, I have a question What if what if like a kid reads a book like captain underpants like I've read that book and I'm not really like What what that book is really about? What would happen? Well, what would be? What would be your opinion on what what the person should read? Yeah That's actually a really good question. Um The best analogy is is that people like to eat junk food, right and candy And it's not going to affect you just overnight But is it good to have a steady diet of junk food? What what the ladies up here are promoting is like the best of the best quality food It's it's the food that's going to make you healthy. That's going to make you grow tall grow better That's that's what these books provide you. They're going to give you good vocabulary They're gonna you're going to think about it for a long time And the messages in them captain underpants It it just goes in and out It's not going to stay with you forever as far as like wanting to inspire you But there's books out there that when you read them, they're going to change the way you look at the world And inshallah the books on this website many of them And there's more out there that they're still going through and getting sifting through that inshallah are going to sharpen your ability to see the world around you But you're right one book here and there it's not You know, you know, what am I do is is that inshallah and Allah can make anything happen But one of my do is is that we reach a point Where if a book doesn't get Put on the mindful muslim reader website or doesn't get their stamp of approval that publishers and authors will ask Okay, what do we need to do To get you to include it on your list. What do we need to take out? Just just tell us the one thing that's gonna You know, give us your thumbs up and inshallah that can happen It it does happen and their their communities where restaurants will serve halal me because they know that That's the way you get people to come to the restaurant So the same can happen with books as well and one point I'm sorry that I I forgot to say in my talk that I wanted to say right now In case there's people out there who are not doing this Please normalize giving books as gifts to children When babies are born, I don't I personally don't give clothes. I don't give toys clothes get outgrown toys break Books are gifts that keep on giving They they don't break usually Um Children even if they quote-unquote outgrow them if they love the book They're gonna want to hold on to it for their own children They get passed down to younger children to siblings. So books literally they keep on giving they're very valued and You know books are worth a lot. I I still remember one birthday party I went to where people were giving these huge like You know the the child was opening his gifts and the toys were really like huge and lit up and they looked fancy But I personally knew that that toy didn't cost more than like 15 20 dollars And then there was this one lady who came to the birthday party and she's like I'm so embarrassed like people are giving all these big grand gifts And I just have this one book that I'm giving the child And uh the child opened it up and it was this beautiful pop-up version of ellison wonderland I was fascinated and I noted down the name and the publisher because I wanted to get it for myself It was a 40 dollar book, right? But it's it's like books Have value we shouldn't be ashamed of of showing up with one book to a birthday party people will appreciate them


The 11 o'clock clock on Think Tech, I'm Jay Feidell. This is Think Tech Tech Talks, because we're going to talk about tech today. And we have Randy Minas, he's on the faculty of the Schuyler College of Business, but better yet, even better than that, he's into information technology. Welcome to the show, Randy. Hi, thanks for having me Jay. Absolutely, absolutely. I'm so interested in this. This is why I love my job, such as it is. So first of all, your specialty is information technology, and that is so important. It's important for business, but it's also important for everybody about everything, because we are living immersed in a world of information technology and we'd better get to learn it. And so I guess, you know, there's two sides of that question. If you could speak about it on one side, the technical side, how do we make this happen? How do we make it work? The second side is, how does it affect us? How should we deal with it as a, say, a consumer of information technology? Am I right? Do you break it down that way? Yeah, yeah, I think that that's a good way to break it down. There's one, how do we use the technology on the other side of it, is how do we use it responsibly? How do we use it in a way that betters our interactions with each other, and how do we use it, and not use it in a way that is detrimental to the interactions with each other.  Information technology, in business, in both? Yeah, my PhD is in information systems with a minor in neuroimaging, and I have an MBA, and then my undergraduate degree is in neuroscience. So neuroscience, that really adds a special dimension. It's interesting, yeah. So my research focuses on connecting neuroscience with IT. How does, how does the information that we process today, and the technology that we use today, affect our processing of information, and does it, does it have good effect on that effect? I find that fascinating. Yeah, we have a lab at UH that looks at that. Has it ever occurred to you that the neuroscience of the brain is just a computer anyway? It is, yeah, it is. It's like a computer with a heck of a lot of connections, right? At the end of the day, we're all mammals and can, can never forget. Right, and so we created a system that is that, you know, IT systems reflect how our brain actually operates. So let's talk about the program. You guys have devised a program in Shidler. Really fabulous to have this at the university. It's a masters of science program. Can you talk about it? Yeah, so we have been working for a few years on developing the masters of science and information systems or MSIS program at Shidler. And this is a 30 credit hour program. It's a very common degree on the mainland. It's actually one of the best masters degrees that you can get on the mainland. We're bringing it out here to Shidler and we're really excited to start it starts fall 2020. We've extended the application deadline because of the COVID-19 situation, lots of things happened in the spring. So the degree is focused on getting the technical aspects of information technology as and parent and also with the managerial aspects of it as any like an undergraduate MIS management information systems degree would do. This is taking it up a notch to the more technical and managerial aspects of it. So who would be interested in this or who is it tailored for? Who does it want to attract? That's actually an interesting question, but it was originally designed as a bachelor and accelerated master's degree and that's just academic terms for what we call a four plus one program. So for our undergraduates are getting MIS degrees. They can double count three courses that they take their senior year as for the master's program. So it reduces it to a 21 credit hour program for them. But then when we were talking with industries and CIOs and everybody out there, they were like, there's a there's a huge market demand in industry for this as well. So there's the full time program, which is, which is alongside that too. So initially it was designed for the undergraduate that was getting MIS degree to stay on an extra year and then get that extra level of learning so that they could enter the job market that much more competitive. But now it's also there's been a huge demand also from the industry wanting to come back in and get the degree as well. Oh, I would imagine. I would imagine because it's a it's a wave of the future. It seems that every day it becomes more important, especially with the advent of all the social media other communication programs.  It seems like every day that somebody inventing some of the kind of communication system that will rule your life or at least enable you to do all kinds of things you couldn't do yesterday. Yeah, exactly. And, you know, I was actually teaching a digital transformation course in the spring to MBA students when we had to go through a huge digital transformation from a meeting in class to meeting online. And we all in various ways were thrust into that. And that was that was an interesting process to go through. And so I think a lot of us relate to that right now and how we manage that process is really important to understand. And that's what our master's degree, you know, kind of we have a way of strategy of how to how to manage that transformation as part of the curriculum. Yeah, it sounds like it borders on the whole communication field and like, you know, think tech we do videos, but we also do data processing. And, you know, we have lots of technologies that support our video mission. And I suppose it's connected. And so you, it's not you can't be alone on information technology. You're going to be, you know, able to touch those other fields and help them or use that.  Well, I mean, when I haven't used this analogy for a really long time, but when I was in the PhD program, I would always argue that it's almost like like studying psychology psychology affects every single aspect of other other areas that we study. IT has become a similar way where IT affects every single field that we're in as well in every single industry in the business environment. I remember, you know, this is 15 or 20 years ago at UH, a lot of the departments, a lot of the researchers, PhD were devising their own programming. They were going beyond the spreadsheet. They had lots of data, they had to manipulate and analyze and they were doing it themselves. And I would say to them, why don't you go to the computer science department?  Do that. And I said, no, we just do it in our own department and we do it just as we need it no further than that. It's not really efficient. You have to have, you have to have experts who can reach out to other disciplines and help other disciplines. Which side of the fence would you be on on that issue? Well, I think interdisciplinary work is critical. The lab that I that I have at UH is with the Information and Computer Science Department as well. So it's the two of us collaborating. And, you know, the, the highly technical side and when we put it up with with the more of the business or social science side of it as well. So if I go into this program, God's very tantalizing. Do I program? Do I actually code? Or do I learn about all the, you know, various programs that are coming down the bike and being established either commercially or by open source? How, how deep is the drive? Yeah, that's, yeah. So the, the aspect of the technical side of it. One of the really important things that a lot of our undergraduates end up going into and I would imagine, you know, at a higher level, the MSI students would be like a data analytics or data scientists or eventually managing a team like that. So for that, you need to know how to manipulate data. You need to know how to work with big data sets. But in terms of like the programming or highly, highly technical aspects of it, you'll be exposed to it. But, and, and you'll understand it, but the majority of it is how do we manage it? How do we put, how do we put this into the organization in an efficient and effective manner? And how do I know enough about it to manage a team that is going to be working on this, this very project? So, so that's kind of where we're geared. It's kind of like if you have, you know, the completely managerial side of it and the completely technical side of it, how do we pitch right down the middle on it?  I have to do both. It's about business management at the end. Yeah, exactly. So what kind of classes? Can you identify some of the subjects that are in the classes offered in the program? Yeah, yeah. So we, we have some classes that will focus on like data analytics and business intelligence and abstracting up from data to information to creating knowledge for the organization that's valuable. We have advanced cybersecurity course that gives you more cybersecurity training. So that's another aspect that's a really hot area right now. And then data management and enterprise data management as well as just data management, data governance in general, enterprise resource systems, those types of things. So those are, those are the, those are kind of the core courses that we focused on initially. And then we also have digital transformation, which is more of a strategy oriented course on how to take a business that is trying to implement a new business process or something that needs to be digitized. And so that's, that's getting back to the systems analysis and design. And that's true a couple of thoughts on that as so many times you see that somebody comes in and we're going to, we're going to upgrade our system, we're going to digitize our system, we're going to put it in a database somewhere. And people think, well, okay, at the end of the day, I'll be able to find things easier. It's much more than that. Because in order to make the analysis to create the database, you have to, you have to examine your whole business. You have to find up reorganizing your whole business and coming out to a whole new level. You thought it was just a matter of record keeping wrong. It's a matter of re-examining, re-imagining your whole business operation, isn't it? Yeah, or sometimes just like you're thinking just of tracking out one system, putting another system in its place and, and really if you, if you look at the capabilities of the new system, you can really reimagine how it's going to affect your organization. So that, yeah, that course in particular tries to pair like, okay, what's our strategy of the firm with what's our IT strategy of the firm and make sure those two things align before you just start to haphazardly implementing technology that you think is cool. Yeah, the other reaction I have is that, is that, you know, out there in the business community, even now, even with the advent of Zoom, there are people who are self-admitted, who might be contrite loveites. They seem to be everywhere, and they are at all levels of management. It's very interesting, you know, I would say that a person who has reached high levels of management probably has a better understanding. But there are a lot of people who have reached relatively high levels of management that have no understanding. Okay, so when you say that you're going to offer this program as a separate offering to people out there in the field and business, it's extremely valuable because it will raise all boats and it will do away with many loveites that we have today. It will give them management skills that can leverage their whole company. And we need to reimagine a lot of companies now in COVID. We have to get them back into the marketplace, but much more efficient than they were. Because this is, you know, much more than it seems to be. I don't think this program is limited in any way to Manoa. I mean, to the market in Manoa, the academic market. I absolutely agree. And I mean, it's serendipitous, right? In a bad way, I guess, maybe. But the pandemic situation is happening, but it right when we launched the program and you know, there's a lot of like, you know, worry about contraction and budget and everything. But this is one of the programs that really would help make sense of what is going on to industry and how we manage all of the changes that we're going to have happen. And the other thing that I'll just say for people that are watching that are considering the program is that when I went back to get my MBA was during the 2008 recession. So also during recessions, it's a good time to go and go back and get a master's degree and improve your education on any variety of fronts. Sure. Or watch Think Tech and learn so much. Absolutely. So, when does it start and how does it start and how are you dealing with COVID and organizing, you know, the material in the classes, the interaction with the students. Right, right. So the fall 2020 right now we're still following UH guidelines as we have to. And we're planning to be in person in the fall. One of the things about the program that I didn't mention at the beginning was that it is geared towards allowing you to have a full time job or a part time job so the classes are taught at night from six to nine o'clock at night. So you can have that full time job right now or have it we're hoping that they're going to be in person classes in the fall if they turn out to be online, we'll be ready for that adaptation as well. But right now we're going forward with the plan of being in person for the fall semester. Great, great. So, if I am watching and I want to know more about this, where do I go get a website. Yeah, so I can, I can send you guys the the website information. If you go to the Shidler.Hawaii.edu there's a MS information systems link there. If you're interested in learning more about the program. I'm also willing to meet with students MSIS at Hawaii.edu. And we'll make sure you get we get you that information. And so the applications we're doing, rolling applications probably through at least the beginning of July. And there's $100 application fee. And the, oh, and the tuition is $887 per credit hour just so. So what's the prerequisite? The prerequisite we'd be looking for business business experience and and some technical experience. It doesn't have to be exactly like you've taken you have deep understanding of networking or whatever the working with in a business with it people for people that are coming back in a managerial and more of a managerial role. And work with the IT department that might that will be enough for you to just start. You know, if if you're undergraduates in in English and you've kind of been working, you know, in hospitality job or something like that, we might want you to take a course or two to get the technical prerequisites that you need. And the managerial prerequisites you might need to get to get to the level of the master's program. So you'll help me tailor it to my own situation and my own expectations, I guess. Yeah, I mean we're in Hawaii we're in a community where we want to try to help as much as as possible and help each of the students kind of achieve what they want to achieve while keeping you know standards and everything in place as well. And one thought we've heard this many times in the last few weeks is that the people don't want to return to a mono economy with the hotels. They want to have a more diversified economy and we've been having this conversation since David, and it never really got traction look at us now and have a mono economy. You know, they, when they talk about reinvention, they talk about technology they talk about getting back to you know the dream of the 80s 90s to have a technology sector that really makes money. And it seems to me that what you're offering does feed into that, because an executive entrepreneur that has this kind of managerial view of technology is, is more likely to be able to succeed at an entrepreneurial attempt. Using the skills in this program. Yeah, I think absolutely for for small and mid sized businesses this is this is critical information to to help give your business a leg up, especially if you know, we have to go back to the social distancing and isolation you know having that e commerce side of your business and in some way shape or form and having the ability to get that up and running or promoted. That's important, but just in general having a small business person with the knowledge of how to promote your business through technical means it's just as just as important as the brick and mortar store and likely to become more important. Let's flip to the thing you and I were discussing before the show, which I enjoyed our conversation so much. And this is the ordinary Schmoe, you know, who's out there in a world of digital media and, you know, high high speed communication, all around him where he is drawn to it because he feels that or she feels that he has to watch out for every email every message because any one of them could bite him. And so he's working around the state of anxiety all day. And, you know, chasing the information that's in there that directly affects him. And thus he gets married to it, and he gets dependent on it. And maybe he's unable, you know, in a biochemical wave, a psychological way unable to probably process this. Maybe he accepts things that are not true. Can we talk about that for a minute, because I think that's the mammalian fall in the ointment that here we have this high science, and then we have we're emotional we're biochemical individuals. Can we handle it yet. I think that's what you've been studying and thinking about for a long time. Yeah, yeah. So with the with the work that I've done in cognition and kind of marrying that to how we respond to it systems. There's the Daniel Kahneman, a very prominent economist, it has has written a book called thinking fast and slow. And it's about how the mind works and then it works in two different ways. There's what we call system one thing, which is really, really fast automatic thinking so you know things that you do that you don't even think about like, you know, when you're when you're driving to work, you're not thinking about everything you're doing to, you know, in the car necessarily unless that your attention has to be focused on it because there's some danger in front of you. And then there's system to cognition which is the deliberative cognitive thought that the cognition that we're using to have this conversation essentially. So a lot of like the ways that we process information online is the system one like automatic responses. I believe that I don't believe that I think about this in a certain way so I'm just going to and we just move on and we just scroll through that Instagram feed we scroll through that Instagram feed, and we have these instant kind of reactions to them without thinking deeply or stopping to to deliberately think about it. And so what you know it's it's called confirmation bias where we believe what we want to believe. And we believe what we believe in the past and what has shown us to be true in the past, and we see something that contradicts it we tend to divert back to what we already believe. And so that's, that creates this this bubble of information that you, that you are doing that we all do then we've done since the, you know, what we were worried about tigers attacking us right which we were talking about before. Now you have algorithmic algorithmic bubbles that are put on top of that that we're not even sure, you know, unless you're really tech savvy of what they're doing so I call it the bubble times to in Facebook right so they're giving you what they want you to see. So you are seeing and interpreting that through your own information bias lens as well and that's so that's like the bubble times to and so those are doubly insulated bubbles and what it does is it really makes us start to drift off of what the ground truth is. And, and that happens in a variety of different ways and so when you become so insulated. It's really hard to pierce that bubble. So you have to really be conscious about getting outside of any one social network or anything seeking out information from other sources. And that's, and that's exhausting sometimes because you know who's got time to do that. I'd rather just scroll through my news feed or my or my Facebook feed and just react to it. But, but it's vitally important as we're seeing in society.  I've been working for the paper one time and, and I could never control my headline, never. There were people hired in the newspaper in every newspaper, they write the headlines. And that's like what you're talking about with the feed. When you go through the feed really quickly now, you're reading the headlines. You know, unless it really touches you, you're not likely to click into it. You don't have the time. You gain this kind of official layer of information and the guy who writes the headlines has enormous influence on you. The headline can be twisted this way that way anyway. And so, you know, you have disinformation is so easy. And it's so it's ubiquitous. Now, in the case of the newspaper with the headline, you're going to have two guys sitting on an approach with rocking chairs. And one guy is reading the paper sees the headlines and he reposted to his friend that his friend says, that's poppycock. That's not true. So you get, right, you get a kind of a control mechanism, just in the human interaction and a little time and space to think about it. When you're there with your phone flipping through all the stuff, you don't have that. There's nobody saying it's poppycock, you have to make the poppycock decision yourself. Right. And you've got to be disciplined about saying that is that is poppycock or that's not. And yeah, and what we were talking about before was that the flags are flagging information is true and false. There was a lot of hope that that would that would help. So Facebook initiated the fake news flag essentially that was that only existed for like six or nine months. And we had done a research study on it that showed that if you believe the information that was presented to you and there was a fake news flag associated with it. It made you one angry and two it made you just discount the flag completely and move on.  They're going to challenge me.  You agree with Zuckerberg's decision not to flag anything. I. Well, I mean in the political situation or just in general, the political in the political situation, I think that there's much more responsible actions he could be taking on it. The flagging the information that that Twitter is doing, while it is serving a some purpose, I'm glad they're trying to do something it's not likely to is likely to result in the same. The same thing that we found our study that people that believe the tweet are going to believe it and say okay Twitter I'm mad at you for putting that there and people that didn't believe it were like oh I'm glad that Twitter put that there I don't believe that in any way it's not going to move anybody from the discourse, but getting that information, allowing that information to come out there and kind of percolate through society is what the real danger and problem is. And so as much as we can create interrupts on some of that where we stop and think. I mean that's the poppycock thing that you were talking about your friend, you know, saying you're reading something that's that's clearly not true. We just study we're working on getting published right now but we looked at if we had people rate the credibility of the news source almost like a Yelp rating while they were going through their Facebook feed. And it just had them stop and consider whether they knew it was true, or whether they've had personal knowledge of the situation, and the credibility of the news source that created them to think more deeply and be more critically more critically You know, Randy, I've been thinking about that for years. I think you're totally correct on that. I think I was going to ask you and you know the remaining time. What is the solution here is it comes at you faster. You're more suggestible. It happens more quickly to more people. It can redirect and you know have a negative effect on huge multimillion populations in instance and seconds. How do you control that. And I think I think what you just, you know, described may be a real solution. We got we got to save ourselves from this. It's not healthy. There's got to be a solution. And it's got to come from the people who understand what happens in information technology. So the rating system would be very influential on me. If I saw that this source was, you know, a negative source, I would take that different. Even if I even if I otherwise like the, you know, the media. So I hope this can happen. How, how can it happen on a large scale. I mean, we've got to get policymakers somehow involved or we have to get the organizations themselves Facebook, Twitter, the social media giants to be willing to make some sort of strides in that in that area. And I don't think all of them are all the social media giants are unwilling to step into the area. I just think that they've gone a little bit into it and and see and have seen some things that haven't worked. And so they're kind of more reticent now to try to put other things into place, even though right now is when we critically need some of that in place.  It could be a system of ratings where you have multiple sources of ratings on a given author or publication. It's like like eBay, you know, I'm, I'm surprised that PR media hasn't done this for eBay. Well, for civil beat, which is a, you know, this is one of his companies or although it's a nonprofit he started it. And the idea would be is that the reader writes the writer, the reader writes the right rates the writer, the all kinds of media, all kinds of data interpretations go in there at the end of the day, you have a metric and the metric is very influential and how you take this, this particular. And the other part that's really, really key is just getting the person that's doing the rating to stop and think for a second to so if you're, you know, going through Facebook and they say, you know, can you please rate this, this headline that you are scrolling past, if that gets the person out of this automatic except and just kind of let the information come in, then that's going to create some difference to and these little changes add up to big changes in our behavior in the long run. Yeah. There's no reason why something like this couldn't be done I think and it would have a, I think it would catch. It's very valuable. And so your program is very valuable your whole area of examination is, I really appreciate it appreciate you're coming on the show. I hope we can get to talk again soon Randy and I wish you well on the program and on dealing with coven and developing the program. Yeah, well, well thank you very much and thank you for the opportunity to come on here and and chat about the program and and the other stuff I love doing it. And I hope we can get to talk more too. So, I'll send some information, a program information packet that you guys can put online or something. Thank you, Randy. Randy. All right, thank you. School of business. Thank you so much.