from Austin, Texas. It's theCUBE, covering OpenStack Summit 2016, brought to you by the OpenStack Foundation and headline sponsors Red Hat and Cisco. Now here are your hosts, Stu Miniman and Brian Graceley. Welcome back to theCUBE, SiliconANGLE Media's flagship program, we go out to the shows, help extract the signal from the noise. Really love to dig in with some of the tech athletes in the community, especially here at the OpenStack Summit. Really pleased to have back on the program, third year in a row here at the OpenStack Summit. It's Mark Shuttleworth, who's the founder of Ubuntu. Mark, thank you so much for joining us again. Great to join you. All right, so one of the themes of the show is, six years ago, it was 75 people here in Austin. Now it's 7,500, you know, of course, Canonical and Ubuntu, heavily involved in OpenStack. Last user survey showed that more than a majority of users are using that flavor of Linux. Give us your kind of reflections on OpenStack, you know, where it started from, is it? Where you thought it would be and... Yes, so OpenStack has certainly become the forum for private or open cloud, and that was exactly what we hoped to achieve in joining it very early on. I think we can all celebrate that success, right? We just don't see any other forum that has the same attraction for either the end user community or the vendor community. I think we are at the beginning of the end for the sort of suspension of disbelief about what's possible, right? And I think we're starting to get to the point where people are refocusing on the core, on the infrastructure as a service. We now have very substantial proof points that OpenStack delivers as an infrastructure as a service, but there's this entire sort of big tent periphery around that, which, you know, to my mind, has very substantial question marks hanging over it. So I think this represents the end of the beginning and the beginning of a new phase for OpenStack as people really start to focus on the stuff they can count on versus the stuff that doesn't really have a room for itself in the future. All right, could you bring us up to speed on, you know, your team's involvement, what have they been working on, what are the kind of the key issues they see, what you're hearing from your users? So I think the OpenStack survey with Ubuntu as the number one sort of platform reflects our focus on the critical essentials, right? Standing it up efficiently, operating it efficiently, and making sure that it delivers virtual networks, disks, and compute. Those are the things that everybody needs, those are the things that everybody has to have, and they kind of have to essentially become invisible, right? So our mission is very much focused on that core, getting that absolutely right. Every industry innovates around that core in different ways, right? We see the telco industry with a very strong focus on networking and network functions. We see media with a very strong focus on scalability and efficient operations effectively. So we think things get kind of foggy when you get away from that core, and that's why we've chosen to really focus on the key pieces. Storage network and compute, vendor interoperability and performance and operability effectively for those. Last year we talked a little bit about Lexity and the container space, so maybe give us the update on that of, you know, big discussion in the keynote here about containers, how's that fit in? Well, we continue to see containers sort of steamrolling the world, and we continue to see new ideas emerging around the Docker-style sort of immutable piece of application. We call it Disco, right? Docker-inspired slice of computer. And so Disco is exciting. We see MISOS, we see Kubernetes, we see Docker Swarm, we see a bunch of others, we see a bunch of homegrown infrastructures, Paz-style infrastructures popping up around that, and I think we'll see that continue. Our focus, you know, we support all of that, a lot of that's on Ubuntu, but our focus is really containers as lightweight virtual machines, Lexity. That's taken off like a house on fire, landing upstream, all of that stuff's now on GitHub, landing upstream as part of this next cycle. And we see lots of interest in that from organizations that have large real-estates of idle VMs effectively because they get great density. We also see a lot of interest in that for, for example, real-time workloads, either analytics or telco or streaming, where dropping a packet or dropping a frame is a bad idea, because containers give you bare metal latency, bare metal performance.  Yes, indeed, yeah. Some of the early names that were here sort of made it a big circus. Now there's sort of tent, which is sort of trying to contain it. Where do you see it going next? The last couple of days of keynotes have been talking about, a few years ago it was OpenStack is everything. OpenStack is going to be that thing that does everything the last year has been. It's a piece of a puzzle. Where do you see it going? Well, we have two perspectives on this. We have the vendor perspective on this and we have the end user perspective on this.  You're not going to sell to Amazon. You're not going to sell to Azure. You're not going to sell to Google. So the public cloud is not a market you can think about. And so in that world, vendors are quite happy to lock themselves into OpenStack because they see it as the only outlet for their stuff. But flip it around and ask yourself as an end user, do you want to be locked into OpenStack? No, you don't. You want the benefits of hybrid cloud operations. You want the economics that Amazon, Google, Microsoft are offering you. No CIO should be saying no to that and none of them are. So from a vendor perspective, we see a lot of stuff trying to get forced into OpenStack because vendors think it's the only place they could move the product. From an end user perspective, not a lot of those things make sense to consume because they're only alive on OpenStack. And therein lies the tension, right? The tent creates the illusion of momentum, but the reality is we can be sure about the core. As for the periphery, if that stuff can't cut it on AWS, on Azure, on Google, I don't think it's going to make a difference in the world. And that's a controversial message, right? That's not something every vendor wants to hear. We're starting to see Google made an announcement a week or so ago. Hey, you can back up your OpenStack into the cloud. You guys obviously have a ton of insight because you're the number one Linux vendor on AWS. How do you think about that from a, when you think about putting yourself in a customer seat, chair and saying, they want great Linux services regardless of where they are. How do you think about that? You're thinking about private and public and that hybrid combination. Right, so I think that move by Google is fantastic. And it really speaks to the strengths of OpenStack, right? OpenStack is an open, private, on-premise infrastructure. And going back to its strengths, storage network and compute. So what Google is saying is, look, there is room for hybrid computing. There's room for your private infrastructure. And we can essentially smooth the pathway to hybrid operations for you by recognizing your storage as something we can engage with. So I think that's a great move for OpenStack, a great move for Google. It speaks to the strengths of both platforms and it's the sort of thing we'll see a lot more of. Let's shift gears a little bit. Everything here is OpenStack. A couple of weeks ago, the world kind of got turned on its head that can now run bash on Windows. Not just bash, but apt, right? You can apt get anything on Windows. What kind of world do we now live in where that's possible? What does that mean to you? I mean, for a long time, that was your competition. That was the other side of the world. Now, you've said, look, things are different. What does that mean to you now? Well, we can only see it as a healthy thing, right? I mean, the reality is we love developers. We love enabling developers. A lot of what I do is to enable the next wave of innovation, right? I'm not smart enough to innovate in every field, but I can potentially accelerate the smart people to do that innovating. So I can only see it as a good thing that we can now reach an audience that historically was closed to free software and to the tool chains that we depend on, right? I think there are those who will feel a little lost in the absence of an obvious enemy, right? We see this a lot in social things. People come together because they're opposed to something and then once they win, they start, you know, their differences start to become manifest in a new way. And we already see signs of that, effectively, in the free software community. But I think we have to step back, say this is a really good thing. It's a credit to two parties in particular. It's a credit to Linus Torvalt and the Kernel community. They do such a classy job of mapping out exactly the services that the Kernel provides, that it is possible for other people to essentially offer those services, which is what Microsoft has done. And it's a credit to the Microsoft team because they've stepped up to essentially deliver that set of capabilities. The Ubuntu image that runs in that Windows services environment is a completely unmodified. It is a perfect Ubuntu, right? It is exactly the same file system as you would run inside a LexD container. Only it's running on the Windows Kernel with a shim layer. And so I think that's a great testament to their engineering. That's a whole new talent pool that we can access. And when I say we, I mean, the free software community and the OpenStack community. Yeah, so I'm interested in your commentary about just kind of the open source industry in general. There's been lots of questions about how we monetize it. Do I have a company that's just all open source? Do I build platforms and leverage all the tools? What's your view on where we are with, in a world where Microsoft is doing lots of open source? Sure. I think open source started out very much as an alternative forum. And it had something beautiful about it in that time, right? If there was a substantial open source project focused on something, you could be pretty sure that everybody participating there was an expert and everybody was participating there as a genuine independent. Those days are over, right? I'm missing that it was a fun time to be part of open source. Today we're in a different era. Most open source today is very tactical positioning by very large organizations. Look at this forum, right? This is not a guerrilla forum, right? This is industry, right? And so I think a lot of our language hasn't adapted. We talk about community today in the same way that we talked about community 15 years ago, but they're quite different. In a very real sense today, open source is a weapon, right? It's a weapon to go faster than standards processes can go, right? And I don't think our social processes have grown up to reflect that, right? We still try to govern open source as if it was a bunch of free spirited independent experts and it isn't, right? The reality is, things catch up, people figure out how to operate and the real winner here is the end user because open source now is the de facto standard for any given industry, for any given new initiative. What about the operators? In one of the keynotes yesterday, they talked about it's kind of the DevOps ninjas versus the VMware sys admins. And of course, the Linux admins have a certain set of skills and understand how to take advantage of some of these tools. Where do you see, are things changing as much as many people put it out to be and how does that impact kind of the jobs in IT? Look, I think skills never go away, although they can stop growing, right? Skilled bases never go away, they can stop growing, right? I think what's going to happen is traditional Linux is going to go in a box and get consolidated. We're now entering a time of big software and it requires a different set of skills to operate big software, right? Remember the transition to big data? The data professionals laughed. The data professionals said, you know, you're just kids, you don't understand, you should go study SQL a bit harder, right? And you should buy bigger machines, right? Shame, you don't have access to the good stuff. But the reality is it was a phase change and we needed a new set of tools, a new way of thinking for big data. Well, I think the same is true for software, right? We had a set of tools that evolved in the 90s that essentially just allowed a human being to have longer arms. But they still require a human being to understand every aspect of the software. Well, in a big software world, that's not possible. Projects like Apache Hadoop are adding components faster than people can understand those components and it's not just a question of hiring a guy who understands that component because of course that's got to be integrated into everything else. So we need to move up a level, we need to move to a new level of abstraction where we use models effectively that encapsulate not just the code, not just the config, but the operations, right? If you have 200 people operating your OpenStack cloud, you're doomed. It may actually be a useful cloud and what matters is how much you can start doing on top of it, but you're going to have to rethink the cost structure of that base operational infrastructure, right? OpenStack should be a push button operation, a dupe should be a push button operation. All of your investments should be focused on the pieces that actually drive business value and that's not making the disk spin and the lights blink.  That's right. You touched on that a sec, can you elaborate on that? I mean is OpenStack big software? Is Mesos big software? What's going to start to fall into that big software bucket and how do people think about it? Because on the flip side, people want to talk about microservices and small little pieces of code. Microservices are not micro, right? And people talk about microservices, what they're really talking about is the decomposition of monolithic applications into constituent parts. And that's really the heart of big software, right? Microservices I think are a symptom of big software, right? The failures of a lot of organizations to stand up OpenStack using their traditional tools and teams are a symptom of big software effectively. And I've heard it said that OpenStack is the hardest thing any organization's going to do. That's not true, it's just the first hard thing every organization has to do, right? So what are the characteristics of big software? First, any interesting thing consists of many pieces. Second, that same interesting thing adds pieces every six months, right? So OpenStack, a new set of pieces every six months. Third, the pieces themselves change, right? Nova today is not the same Nova as it was two years ago. And so think of what that's doing to your teams who have to onboard that stuff and operate that stuff, right? They have to learn about stuff faster than they can actually onboard that stuff. OpenStack is like that, Mesosphere DCOS is like that. I think you'll see Kubernetes and the container passes effectively evolve to that level of complexity. And so we need a new way of thinking about how you operate software that doesn't involve hiring a bunch of people just because you want to onboard new software essentially. You have to figure out how to grab the software and the operations as code, right? So that you don't have to go through the skills development process before you can stand up a piece of software. So you just had your recent quarterly announcements last year when we talked, we were talking kind of about the profitability. Can you give us the business update? So it's better than when we spoke last, we had an outstanding second half. We're a private company, so the details are for us alone. But we feel very much on track for everything that we discussed. Clearly cloud is the driving phase change, both public and private. Delivering ways of operating across both public and private cloud is kind of a key specialty for us. But over time, I think it really becomes big software that's the specialty, right? OpenStack is a test case, DCOS is a test case. Big data now is increasingly a test case of your ability to operate big software. And what we're doing is giving organizations a real choice between SaaS and on-prem with SaaS experiences, right? If you can operate software on-prem, but it feels like you're consuming SaaS, you get the benefits of both worlds, right? You get the control of the data, the ability to choose where your data goes, and you get the ability to essentially put the costs in a predictable bucket. You know what the operating costs are going to be before you start. Right, that's that valuable commodity. I need my learning curve to go like this as fast as possible. How can you help me, right? The bits are irrelevant, I need the learning curve. Right, well, how can we skip the learning piece, right? How can I essentially onboard big data as if I just called an API at Amazon, right? And now, if I need to, I have access to the skills, but I don't have that six months to 18 months process of staffing up, right? Right, all right. So one thing that's been lighting up the tech industry outside of the OpenStack stuff is the recent space stuff. So I'm curious, you have any preference between what's going on with Blue Origin and SpaceX? I think they're both fantastic. I think competition is fantastic. I think it's great for the USA to have leadership in essentially private access to the frontiers of space. I think it's great for the astronaut community, right? This has long been a challenging community to participate in, and now it's going to be broken wide open, creating new opportunities for people in the industry, both on the manufacturing side and the system side and the flying the things side, which is exciting. Yeah, any plans to get back up? I would love to fly again. I'd like to go further than low earth orbit. I think the next frontier for us is the moon again and Mars. And I feel like those options are being developed by very smart people. It's an exciting time. All right, yeah, we often talk in the tech industry about some of the moon shots. Now, of course, we've got the Mars shot going on. Mark shuttle mirth, thank you so much for joining us again. We'll be back with lots more coverage here from OpenStack 2016 here in Austin, Texas. You're watching theCUBE. It's always fun to come back.


Hey Psych2Goers, welcome back to another Psych2Go video. So, what is intelligence, really? We know it isn't as simple as an IQ score, which is something even Stephen Hawking thoroughly denounced. And we can likely agree that Mr. Hawking was quite intelligent. Intelligence is a complex, multi-dimensional construct that can mean a variety of things for a variety of different people. So it can be hard to put into words what it all means. But no matter what definition you may adhere to, there's one thing all of us can agree on. You know intelligence when you see it. A highly intelligent person is someone who's gifted at analyzing concepts and building upon them to form a better understanding of the world and those around them, how everything is connected, and why things are the way they are. These people often have remarkably high IQs, academic achievements, and go on to become successful leaders and trailblazers in their fields. Wondering if you're one of them? Let's look at eight struggles only highly intelligent people will understand. One, you get bored with small talk. If you've ever heard the quote, great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people. This is what it means. Highly intelligent people aren't drawn to what they consider the unimportant details of life. Chatting about the game or the neighbor's newest lawn flamingo isn't something they see as a must talk about item. Rather, they enjoy discussing ideas and concepts in anything from art to science. They think in ways of the deep, the abstract, and the thought provoking, meaning small talk feels exhausting and time wasting. Two, you're careful with your words.  Many smart people tend to think more than they speak. This means that if they choose to share something, it's highly likely they've considered it from every possible angle, with rationale and logic to back up the conclusions they've come to. All this preparation though can mean long silences while they construct the thought, which then gives the impression of being reserved or overly serious, which leads to the next struggle. Three, you're socially awkward. Here's where the common movie trope of the awkward nerd comes in. You've seen it. The wide-eyed stare as a smart person realizes their response is awaited in silence. Or their cringe-inducing statement made at exactly the wrong time earned them the disgust of the popular kids forever more. Okay, we admit it. The media displays this in an exaggerated manner. However, they aren't all wrong. The awkwardness is even backed up in research. A study by Davidson in 2015 showed the people who have a high IQ tend to have a lower EQ or emotional intelligence quotient, which is what helps us form relationships and hone our social skills. Life. It's all about trade-offs. Four, you struggle to make good friends. Is making true friends and finding your crowd somewhat of a challenge for you? Some people are highly intimidated by intelligence and the perception that someone is too smart for them. They feel like they can't relate, or perhaps they're not smart enough. People don't generally like to feel this way, so their response is to simply not befriend the smart person. The highly intelligent person is still the person, and people get lonely. If you can relate to this, you may think, if it's my intelligence that drives people away, then should I dumb it down for acceptance? Well, ideally, you're drawn to other people in the same intelligence sphere as you. They may be rare, but they're out there. Five, you don't get out much. If you're highly intelligent, you'll most likely struggle in social situations. You aren't so good at small talk and find it hard to make friends. What effect does this have on the bigger picture? It could mean you don't get to go out much, so you focus heavily on academics, throwing yourself into work, work, work. Even if you generally enjoy academic pursuits, the severe life imbalance between work and social integration eventually leads to overwork, unhappiness, and possibly low self-esteem. Six, you're overly analytical. Have you ever heard of paralysis by analysis? Well, this is a common struggle for the highly intelligent person. It happens when you're crippled by always needing to know the correct answer or the most correct answer or making the best decision. Do you always struggle within decisiveness? Just like how you think thoroughly of all the angles before saying something in conversation, you do the same thing before you make a decision or give an answer. You also tend to be able to find so many angles, pros, and cons, that it can end up making you more indecisive. There is so much input that it clogs your output. Seven, your mind constantly craves exercise.  In short, your mind has the munchies.  This means simple everyday tasks or already solved problems feel like a drag. Pretty soon, so many things feel being there done that, that the search for the next thing becomes arduous. Eight, you're always feeling pressured to succeed. If we may paraphrase the late great Uncle Ben, with great intelligence comes great expectation.  From who? From everyone. Yes, much of it comes from within, however. Every time your friend casually says, so, another 4.0 this semester, or drinks on you for being employee of the month again, right?  You need to be here. Always. So you end up pushing yourself to constantly prove your intelligence, leading to exacerbated perfectionist tendencies, and an unhealthy, disproportionate fear of failure. Do you relate to any of the struggles mentioned in this video? Let us know in the comments below. We get it. Feeling a bit of victory by knowing things others don't sound so incredibly good. However, there are always many sides to a thing, and being smart isn't always a piece of cake. Others might try to define you by your intelligence, seeing you simply as a brain or an IQ score. Still more, many may never get past that, so they never try to get to know you, maybe even villainizing you out of jealousy. This can leave you lonely and feeling disconnected. Truth is, there's nothing wrong with you for being who you are.  We'd love to hear your intelligence and thought-provoking comments below. Please like and share. We'll see you in the next video.


I'm Tobias, one of the Android developers at Nexcloud, and I want to show you what we did last year and what is about the next upcoming release. So from the last conference to this conference, we did draft nine stable releases and eight release candidates. And as you can see, the commit is quite active as the last year. We also managed to double the active installations. The active installations are those installations that are signed in within the last seven days by GPLAY. So I guess this is quite impressive for an open source system. Under that we changed the release cycle to have a more reliable time schedule. So we aimed to release every two months a new release, which with six weeks of developing, then afterwards two weeks of stabilizing phase. So we're just doing a feature freeze, then doing a public release on Play Store and F-Troid and give it out in the wild to see if there are some bugs. And of course we are fixing them and after this release it again on Play Store and F-Troid. In between we can now, because we have managed, changed the system, we can now release bug fixes. They are on demand if we have a pull request or a fix, which is worth of back porting. So we can create a new stable release from the branch for example of 3.2 while already developing the next upcoming version of 3.3. And so we just have smaller releases, which are easier to test and have not so many impacts for changing for the users. And we can therefore have internal bug fixes and new versions. This is the time schedule and as you can see the last 3.x versions have roughly amount the same time span. The current one is a little bit delayed because of the company because we want to integrate single time on and after the conference there will be in the next week the RC1 for the upcoming version. Also we wanted to have a more awareness of our code quality so we integrated our test system in Tron with unit and test integrations. And so you will find in every pull request a summary with find bugs, LIN, PMD and code coverage. On the right side you can see the amount of changes of code coverage and how many find bugs, warnings there are. And our aim is to reduce them or at most do not have more than before in terms of warnings or errors. So our next upcoming version will include those main features. The now well-known feature is Threshbin. It is for next load 14 only. You can either un-delete those files and folders or you can also empty the complete Threshbin via the mobile phone. In the file detail view you can see the file versioning and restore any version you like. And the long-term feature is the video streaming so if you have a big video or a big audio file you don't have to prior download the whole file to watch it but you can just stream it with our internal player The default is when you are clicking on the file you are just streaming it instead of downloading it or you can open it with an external app like VLC or any other preferred audio or video player. And under that this is done by a secure link so no credentials are exposed. And the next big change will be that we have no available offline folders or files anymore. Previously you had to choose a file that you want to keep available offline so that every change is automatically synced. This led to the problem that there were sometimes downloaded files which are regular downloaded files but then are out of sync and so you have opened the old version. And now we are just checking if you are on the Wi-Fi and every two hours then all downloaded files will automatically get synced. And if you are not on the Wi-Fi you will see on the folder entry the outdated downloaded files and then many will choose to download them. And as also was said by Stefan in the last but in my opinion one of the major biggest features since 0x.1.0 is single turn on and this is a talk by David.


For one adventurer, K-7, form a United States secret agent who operated in 22 countries on land, on sea and in the air, brings you a story of today. Here is K-7. Again, I bring you a story that is different. Few people realize that in the world of today, secret agents often influence international diplomacy by supplying information. What movements are the aggressors planning? What are their colonial aspirations? The answers are important, but the answer to what lies in the people's hearts is more important, knowing as meant the difference between war and peace. To illustrate a different type of work performed by secret agents, an imaginative story of world crisis is now introduced by John Holbrook. Thank you, K-7. In this story, let us assume that recently the world waited with bated breath for a speech that all feared would mean war. In such an atmosphere, special agent, M, answered a call by radio telephone. He talked to a great diplomat. As he finished, he hung up the receiver. That was a guarded conversation, M. Who was it? The ambassador to a great nation. Well, M, what's the matter? Ivan, that brief conversation was more important than any car we've ever had. A statesman has called upon us for vital information. We've got to go into a country and find out how its people feel, what they think. World peace may hang on the accuracy of our report. You mean we are not on the trail of any particular group of spies? No, Ivan. The man we're after this time is the head of a great state. We've got to pierce his censorship, overcome the fear his secret police have put into the hearts of his subjects. We've got to find out what men and women are thinking, and we've got just 48 hours to accomplish that task. Start packing, Ivan. We fly tonight. Agent M and Ivan crossed the border that night. The next morning found them mingling with the people whose thoughts, hopes, and fears were carefully guarded secrets. They were not a hostile people. Instead, they wanted to talk. They wanted news from the outside world. Agent M and Ivan separated once they were in the country. Their problem was to overcome fear. They interviewed many people, but three of them told the whole story. You're an officer in the army, sir. I hesitate to ask you this. But you think there will be war? Do your people want war? We ask that of each other. No one knows. I wish I could answer you frankly. Surely no one can hear us. The very walls of the years, they're spied upon constantly. We don't dare speak our mind in public or in our homes. You can't realize what that means. No, I can't realize it. We don't know what the world thinks. We have no newspapers except the controlled press. Would you believe that news is being smuggled into us? What do you mean? Many of us have relatives and friends in other countries. They read the world news and condense the stories into a few words. Some of this condensed news reaches us. And when it does, we meet in little groups, read it to each other. Then each man makes a copy of the stories and goes out to read the news to other groups. It is our way of getting information. Well, certainly you don't enjoy living under such oppression. Would you? We have always been a proud people. Now we are treated like criminals, spied upon from every quarter, someday. You were going to say? Only that it will not always be the same. Now tell me of the outside world. What do your leaders think? They want peace. They believe international problems can be settled by comfort. And they're right. They're right if only my people could know that. Our government wouldn't dare lead us blind into useless sacrifice. If war comes. Now what's the matter? They're watched. You should repeat what I have said. I would be seized, separated from my family. I must leave you, my friend. Goodbye. I hope your visit is a pleasant one.  Are your sons in the army? Yes, all of them. And I have three. One is 19. He is with his regiment. One is 17. He is in military school. My youngest son is 10. Surely a boy of 10. Yes, Paul too. He and other boys his age drill each afternoon. They wear uniforms. They carry wooden guns.  You've been in other countries. Tell me what is the world coming to? Iron man, all of us, please. Some way we'll be found. You, you can say that. But what hope have we? You don't understand. You can't. Each morning I watch little Paul start for school. He doesn't run and jump the way boys used to when I was his age. He marches. Marches. Do you understand what that means? He marches to school just as he will someday march away to war.  Perhaps you exaggerate. Oh, no. No, I know what's coming. I was 16 during the Great War. I remember. Why do we have to stand in line with a ration card now to buy food if war isn't coming? It was so in 1917. Look at this card. I can buy meat for my family once each week. I can have just so much butter, so much flour. What does it mean? I'll tell you. Our money goes for airplanes, for guns to feed these soldiers whose tramp we hear even in our sleep. Are you taxed heavily? Almost half of the money my husband makes. Each year we have less money, but each month my husband has to work longer hours. He goes to work before dawn, comes home at night, eats his dinner, then puts on a uniform, and goes to a party meeting. Is it like that in your country? No, of course not. Our citizens don't wear uniforms. Only our soldiers and sailors. Why can't it be like that here? Why doesn't some world leader speak? Perhaps one will. Yes, probably, but he will speak too late. I lost a brother during the World War. He fought for greater empire, for empire. Must I now lose a husband of three sons? Must I see my little Paul, my baby, marching, marching, marching? He's my baby. He's another soldier. They can't have him, not yet. Someone has got to tell them. Someone has got to. And at night I must drill for the party. I don't want to be a soldier. I just want my work, my family. Why can't it be like the old days? Perhaps it will be again soon. I've given up hope. I remember when I was a boy, we had a lovely flower garden. In the evening when my father came home from work, he would sit there with us and talk to us and smoke his pipe. But perhaps he would go to the music garden and hear women and men laughing and sing. Surely men and women laugh and sing yet? Yes, but suddenly the laughter stops. We must sing about a man none of us remembers. Some man who died in a riot. You can't understand. I'm working for nothing. I'm sick of military music, of parades.   We're on a different world. The party is wrong.  Why doesn't some man speak? Why doesn't he say we want peace? Down with the party, down with their lies. You will come with me. Who are you? Not the police. No, I didn't mean what I said. I didn't mean it. Let me explain. Why are you arresting this man? Because he is a traitor to the state. Now come on out. Let me explain. I didn't mean what I said. What I did. The next day, Agent M and Yvonne met again at the flying field and prepared to leave the country. Both looked haggard, worn. What will happen to him? What will it all lead to? No man knows. Perhaps as a result of the information we're taking back, a voice will ring out across the world. Perhaps a proposal will be made that these people will hear. And if that happens, their leaders will turn pale. War will at least be put off. That's all that we can hope for. May simmer in the mind of a people's leader. But if peace lies in a people's heart, a successful war of aggression is impossible. History has taught this lesson many times. But when men are mad for power, the lessons of the past are forgotten. Pray for peace in the name of humanity. Listen for my next story. This is K7 Speaking.


and welcome to this lady Aida. Hey everybody and welcome to my desk. It's me, Lady Aida, with me, Mr. Lady Aida on camera control behind the scenes and your updates. So we're back to our shows. Everything's back. We're doing a bunch of new camera setups and everything. So you'll notice like lighting's a little bit better. Sound will be different. So we're just experimenting with stuff because we're condensing all of our shows into like maybe one multimedia station. Multiple shows, but like instead of, we usually have like different cameras and state locations. We're gonna unify it a little bit. Yeah, so we're not going to the Aida Fruit Factory, well, sorry, we're not staying at the Aida Fruit Factory at night because we have a baby now. So instead of staying there all the way till nine o'clock at night, we go home and we do our shows live and- From my desk. From your desk and we also have a kiddo. A kiddo is super nice and quiet and chill and enjoys listening to her mom talk about electronics. So with that being said- Speaking up. What do you want to know to speak? So this week, because we actually, a lot of people got back from holiday and we got back from our break and so we started, we started the show. So not as much engineering happened this week. A lot of it was mostly just kind of catching up with everybody, what's going on the last six weeks or so, starting, you know, getting people started on projects for the new year. Some really cool projects coming out already. I've, you know, dished out some really fun engineering projects to people. We're gonna take on some interesting new quests. Plus there's a lot more new chips coming out and chips that are coming back into stock. As I mentioned in the last, you know, couple months, the chip shortage, while it's not over, has been a lot, lot better. In fact, it's sort of turning into a chip surplus which you might have seen like Samsung said, wait, we have too many chips now. Which is why we didn't start Chip Fab. Everyone's like, you know, buy a chip fabrication factory. It's like, no, that takes like 10 years and we're pretty busy and also now there's a chip surplus. So what I've been doing recently is first off, we're trying to get a lot of stuff back into stock. We're gonna re-start some old designs. There's a lot of designs where, you know, they were kind of ready to go or they were about to be revised in like 2020. And then with various shortages and inabilities to get stuff done, like some stuff did get revised, but there are some things that were, if it had like three revisions involved, I kind of, kind of emotionally gave up on it and said, you know, I'll just, I'll just check it out when I can get everything. So one of them is this TFT feather wing. Let's go to the overhead. So a few, two weeks ago, I think I talked about the one point, let's see, let me auto focus and then focus walk. Okay. I talked about how I'm trying to change some of my hand soldered TFT and OLED displays into plug inversion. So I checked out those previous shows because the 0.96 and 1.14 inch TFTs, traditionally they're hand soldered. So this is what it looks like underneath.  We soldered by hand. So one, the hand soldering does take a lot of labor and it's, if we're making enough of it, it's better for me to make a double sided design with a TFT plugin. And second, this TFT actually got discontinued and then the TFT shortage showed up and the TFT prices like quadrupled or tripled. And I was like, you know, I'm just gonna wait. And then I've been using, I was using a seesaw, SAMD09, and then the prices on those went up a lot. And then I was like, should I change it to an AT tiny? And then basically like three things went kind of a miss with this design. And I just sort of said, like, I'm giving up on this for now. Let's revisit this later and, you know, maybe update it when I can get all of the pieces or maybe I'll redo all the pieces. So let's go to the computer and I'll show what I'm going to change. So, sorry, this was, so one, you know, before like during kind of COVID time, what I was trying to do was like, oh, I'll update this 0.96 TFT. Cause when I design this feather, I can only get the 0.96 160 by 80. But then the really ultra high dense 1.14 inch TFT came out, which is 240 by 135, which is like really even, you know, which is much better, much higher density. And so I started redesigning this to use the 1.14 and then use instead of the SAMD, sorry, I'd still use the SAMD09. But then like I said, I couldn't like the SAMD09, I could get it, but the price was really high. And I was like, ah, I'm like not so into it. Especially since the seesaw chip, the only thing it was really doing was controlling the backlight TFT and doing button reading. And then reset, it was one GPIO output, like eight GPIO input and one PWM output for the backlight. And at the time, there's like no chip that did all three things. No IO controller that I could use. I did input, output, and PWM. But then recently, one of the breakout boards that we added was the AW9523. And this GPIO expander is actually kind of neat because it actually does both input and output and can do constant current PWM output for backlight control. So it's actually kind of perfect for this use. And I want to, and also the price of it is really good. It's basically cheaper than the SAM D09. I don't have to program it. So there's no risk of like the chip getting erased or like misflashed or, you know, like that extra step where I have to SWD program it. So I want to update this design to use that instead of what I've got right now, which is the, that SAM D09 doing the breakout board control. So, so show you what I have. So basically everything's changing. And another thing that happened is I changed the large buttons, these small buttons. But I think what's going to happen is because I'm changing this to be, let me save this as, actually I already have a rev. I'll just save this here.  Let me get rid of the traces because none of these are going to stay. So the first thing is I'm changing this hand solder TFT to be a plugin. So let's do that first. So this TFT is, let me update all the libraries because I have a new package for the plugin version. Hold on, you look at it, it's thinking. Okay, that's fine. So if I add, somehow I have like a 16 core processor and Eagle Cat still is just like constantly thinking. Okay. For the TFTs, so I've got generic TFT hand solder. Actually, let me just look at Adafruit display, which is my library with all my displays. And it was called, yeah, generic SPI, no LED A. So, so it's actually no LED K. So the one thing, yeah, I got both the 0.96 and the 1.14. Sorry, no LED, yes, no LED cathode. So the only thing that's a little different about this is that, you know, this is, I made it kind of like a compatible footprint, but you'll notice there's no cathode for the LED. The LED, for these plugins, you know, to save pins, they don't have both the LED cathode and the anode exposed. The cathode actually connects to ground, which is actually a good idea because the power supply for the LEDs might be different than the power supplies for the chip, but it just means you have to change the logic for the backlight to be inverted. Okay, so if I plug this in over here, and then I'm gonna align this to be the same, so it'll be like here, that, and then it'll get rid of the hand solder version. And then the LED, and then it'll click to the backlight. I can check the, you know, well, I may or may not, like if it's, I'm changing so much for more in software anyways. Maybe it's not a big deal, I'll just have the example code. So it's logically inverted. Okay, so next up, I'm gonna get rid of this SAMD09. Goodbye. And instead, I'm going to import the breakout board for the GPIO. I think, where do I put it under? Okay, it's under multiplexers. I think we would see now. It's under, I can't remember where. It's under ADCs, audio, clock gen co-processors. Level shifters? No, not under PWM, under LED drivers. Oh yeah, under LED drivers. Okay, so I added this sheet, which just kind of brings in all the pins and they're all labeled nicely. But I'll still delete all the headers because I don't need the headers. And I'll delete, you know what? Maybe I'll keep the STEMAQT port. I'll delete the mounting holes and the fiducials. So you see it's kind of like hanging out down here. And I think I'll keep one STEMAQT port because that might be handy. People can like, oh, if it's double-sided anyways, like I'll just, I'll have it on the bottom. And then I'll select this and drag it over here and I give them, oop, delete this sheet. Okay, so then I'll clean this up and I will delete and I was like, don't delete everything. So now I've got this, this chip is gonna be the expander instead of the seesaw.  Change that back to normal. And I want to put this on the back because now it's double-sided. I might as well put it on the back. I can put this on the back and this on the back. And then I'm actually going to change this package back to be six millimeters because I actually kind of like, I like that size. And then this can kind of shift over a little bit. And then this like barely fits. Let's see if I can change. This is change package. I'm gonna use smaller. It's like a tiny, tiny bit smaller. So yeah, now I'm back to kind of how it was before. And yeah, it's a double-sided design now. But like I said, you know, I'm kind of stuck with that because I want to have this plug-in TFT. But the good news is that there's no hand soldering. And there's not an unpopular feather wing. And one of the things that like takes time is hand soldering those TFTs. So make it double-sided, have that plug-in on the back. So the only thing you have to do is add a cut-out like here. So I'm gonna add that now before I forget. And I will do that with the lines tool. Oops. And then you just make a cut-out by using a dimensional rectangle. And then kind of move it out of the way. And have a slot. And this is great because then the FPC will come out and we'll have plenty of space to tape it down. And it will plug in onto the back here. And then I just have to like kind of, you know, route everything and arrange it. But I have lots of space. I'll get rid of all the silk screen. The silk screen obviously is not even correct anymore. So let's get this out of the way. And then- Is it hard to know exactly where to put the cut-out? No, because I actually played with this before. And so I know you can see that there's this outline here. Let me move this text over here. This'll probably move over here. And then this'll kind of scooch. And then this I'll rotate. And so you can see where the FPC comes out. This is a little like a jiggly line. So I just kind of make it like a millimeter more. And that way I can see, like when I document the footprint on the back, I like to document where the flex connector goes. That way I know like I can put components where it won't overlap. And also like it told me like, okay, I just need to have this slot here. But then I'm pretty much good to go. So I'll finish routing this and I'll send out prototype PCBs. But I actually kind of like the, moving the CSAP chip to the AW9523 is kind of like, it was like all three pieces came together. It's like, oh, I can get the TFT for the FPC plugin. I could get the AW9523, it's now available. It's at a low cost.  So there's like six or seven different designs that kind of went through this.  So for the great search, I thought I'd show. Let's do two quick questions. Oh yeah, sure. Ready? Yeah. Have you ever done equal tutorials? And the next one is, what is this socket for the TFT display make it expensive? There's no such thing as a ZIF socket for an FPC. So there's flip top, but this isn't flip. This isn't a bottom contact. It's a top contact. So you have to use a little slide out. And we have equal CAD tutorials on the learning system. Some very good ones. How will the new chip change the code for using it? It's gonna be a new code, but you know, like I said, the TFT is changing also. So there's like so many things changing that if you're going to make one change, make all the changes you want and this will make it easier to manufacture and less expensive. I guess it's the fault. Even just in the library backend. I mean, it's, that's not how the, we don't have a library for this display. Like we have example code. Okay, all right, cool. But it's like a popular display type and the AW9523, we have library code too. So it's not so bad. All right. And do you want to get onto the great search? Yeah, let's go to the great search and we'll show you on the overhead. Yeah. Where? The great search brought to you by, did you key need fruit? Thanks, did you key? This is the time of the week where LadyAid uses the power of engineering to help you. Yes, you find the chips, parts and more that you need. LadyAid, what are you looking for this week? I'm glad you asked. This week I've been doing a redesign of a TFT feather wing and the TFT feather has an interesting navigation switch on it. And I realized this is a pretty cool weird part that I would like to show because the original manufacturer like stopped making it, but there's an alternative that's basically pink compatible. So let's go to the overhead and I'll show it off. Okay. So one thing that's, you know, if you're adding buttons in a user interface to a project, you know, it's very common to have like a navigation thing like up, down, left, right. And then usually a select so you can go through a menu or you can change specifications. This is a little joystick as well. That's another option. And this is, this one doesn't have a select. It's only a two-axis joystick, but usually, you know, you'll have this and then maybe you'll have a select button next to it. We don't also have a joystick. We recently put into the shop that is through-hole but does have a select on it. Get some good focus here. This nav switch is one that I like quite a bit. So these nav switches, they're a little bit more compact than a joystick and they're not, this is, you know, true analog joysticks. We need two ADCs, X and Y, and you can measure, you know, in the center it's, you know, ADC, VDD divided by two. And then as you go left and right, it goes from zero to VDD. The, these navigation switches, they, yeah, they tilt. You can kind of see that they tilt left, right, up, and down, and they do have a select. And they're kind of clicky because they really are five mechanical switches. So I call them five-way navigation switches, although some would say it's two axes plus select, different ways of talking about it. But I like them because they're not that much bigger than like two tactile switches and they're definitely smaller than four tactile switches. And they're very logical.  Like I understand what you want me to do. You're, you know, you want me to move up, down, left, right. And so in case people wanted to add these to their products, I thought I'd show this part and some other parts on Digikey, there's a couple navigation switches. Okay. So this is the, just show this, this was the design and this is the footprint. So it's nice is that it has five switches and then they have one common and five pin connections. So it looks like this, you know, one common up, up, down, left, right, and then select in. So you just need four GPIO pins and you connect the common to either ground or power, whichever one you want and you just need pull-ups. So, and then here is just in case you want to see a nice big picture. Oh, here it is. So this is the, what it looks like in big, big letters. So these are called navigation switches. And so watch out, because there's also thumb sticks, right? And that's kind of similar. And sometimes they are grouped together, but thumb sticks tend to be just small joy sticks that are analog. So you see these, these A PIMP switches, I mean, these are very fancy, you know, we have this one. Like I said, this is XY, but not select in. Some of these have select, some of them don't, but thumb switches tend to be analog to access. So instead what we want is, I'll go to the entire category, navigation switches. Now what I'll see is there's some really good stuff here and like the thing about navigation switches is there's a wide range of the navigation joy sticks. They're from like very tiny ones. Like this one is very small. This is, you know, maybe eight millimeters by eight millimeters, these are very tiny.  So they're all slightly different. You know, like here's this big M1 joystick and you can even see the two pots on the side. But we want the, and then this is kind of a nice, it's like a vehicle, you know, like this is from a car navigation. Another, so another one that's very popular is this one. This is like, you know, the Xbox style controller joystick. A lot of you'll notice they originally were made and used in console games or our phones or something. And then the part became genericized enough that you can then get it outside of that use case.  You can get them now and they are two pots and a selector switch and they're very inexpensive. So, yeah, these are larger. They're not surface mount, but they're also good options. So let's look at the active navigation switches. And so, yeah, there's like different directionals. There's ones that are like hall effect. We want a mechanical switch. Yeah, just mechanical. I think it will be under that. And then thumbstick again is usually analog.  So you want navigation switch. Oh, I'll show you the one access ones. There's some fun ones. Actually, nevermind. Sorry, let's go. Let's stay on target. I'll show you the navigation switch later. Okay, so here's all the options for navigation switches. So again, there's like a mixed match. There's like, you know, this ADA assistive device, but let's search by pricing so you can see all the different cost versions. So unfortunately, there's a lot that don't have photos. So you'll have to check the data sheet, the switch in particular makes a lot of these. These are very slim style ones. So they're not too dissimilar than the NAS which I showed you, but it's like very compact and you would have your own. Yeah, it's hard for a finger to do it. You want to have a mechanical add-on. This one I've seen in a couple of projects. They're fairly inexpensive and they're surface mountable. And then this is the one that, like I said, this is the through-hole version of the navigation switch. So you can see that you can kind of sort of plug this into a breadboard. It's not quite breadboard friendly, but you'd have to solder it in. And then if you go down, you'll see there's again, a kind of a slim surface mount version. And this is the one that I use. So this is, you can see the 360 on second. One second. So you can see this one has mounting nubs on it, which is actually kind of nice because it'll keep it from shearing off.  So when people are pressing up and down, it doesn't shear off of the PCB. But it basically just has six pads. You can pick and place it. It comes on a very thick tape, but you know, as long as the pick and place nozzle can get onto that actuator, you're good to go. And one thing that I thought was kind of neat is this is available in the Eagle CAD, KaiCAD library, sorry, the DigiKey KaiCAD library, which I didn't know that they had. So do check it out.  So if you want Sean to teach you KaiCAD or KiCAD, check out the tutorials. There's also the CAD models, the STP files, and you can sometimes get the, if you're not using KaiCAD, you're using Altium, Eagle, whatever, you can get the footprint from SNAP EDA or Ultra Librarian, which actually I've been using a lot lately. I've been getting footprints for parts. Even if I sometimes redraw the schematic symbol because I like to have the parts grouped in a certain way, I'll reuse the footprint because they did the math of getting the pads in the right location. So check that out. Oh, and another thing is, for a lot of these NAV switches, you'll want to have a cap on top. For the navigation switch that I use, there's a little rubber cap that we actually sell. It actually did appear down here. Let me see, hold on, there you go.  It's not sold by E-Switch, it's actually a third party, but it fits very nicely on top of these five-way NAV switches and kind of gives it a nice rubbery feel. And you can see here what it looks like. It does, the only thing that I didn't realize is it overlapped the reset button. And so on the redesign, I'm moving the reset button because when this was designed, I didn't have that rubber nub in piece, but then I added it later and then realized it was a little in the way. So that's the only thing to watch out for is it does overlap your bike components. However, like I said, I really like this NAV switch. Strongly recommend it. It's really great, it's very compact and takes up a lot less space than five tactile switches and never had anyone say, oh, it was confusing to use or difficult to use. I think they're kind of a joy for adding interface to your project. That's the great search. All right, we're gonna do some questions. You ready? Yes. Okay, here is some questions. First up, could you add maybe the AW9523S for finding that chip? AW9523S. I don't know about the S type. Okay. Sorry, but the 9523 is what? I just used the QFN bird. Do you have predictions for the end of the silicon shortage mid-year, end of year, never? I think by the end of this year, we're gonna be pretty much out of it. But I think, I'm still getting microchip like at SAMD dates of 2024. I don't know if those are realistic or not. Everybody else has kind of wrapped it up, although I'll say that there's a lot of things that went end of line in the meantime. All right, does RP2040 Scorpio have Bluetooth or Wi-Fi, if not, how could you do it or would it be better to not do it? You can add Wi-Fi with a airlift feather wing. And that's fine because the Scorpio output doesn't conflict with any of the feather pins, so you can totally add Wi-Fi that way. Would you ever make a standalone Scorpio that has that built in? I would probably look at just porting the Scorpio code to the ESP32 and having that do it. There's trade-offs though, because the RP2040 is really great at driving neopixels. Okay, any word on last March's F1C100s or even a F1C200s board? I have a trove of documents, info, et cetera, I've gathered over the last year. Oh, send them over to PTA at Adafruit. We're actually looking to doing that board again. It was one of the chips that, even if that chip wasn't unavailable, all the accessory chips that go with it, like the power supply and memory chips were unavailable and so we had to put pause on it. Plus that chip was, I got a couple of samples and then it was tough to get a reel of them, but we'll probably be doing it this year. And in chat it was noted that Texas Interments, TI just did end-of-line notices to a ton of their products. I know, they did and I think they're gonna do it for the power boost chips. I have to redesign the power boost, but they keep saying they're gonna ship us chips. No chips, no problem. That's one way to solve the shortage. Yeah, it's like, hey, it's not out of stock because it doesn't exist. We never said we had these. Yeah, I know. They're just gonna erase it from their website. All right. Oh, was the Scorpio Cowbell mentioned? There's no plans of one right now, but you can just use a Pico and just wire it up as is. All right. That's our show for tonight. Special thanks to all the community, all the Aida for team members, everybody's out there, and Baby, who just loves listening to electronic stuff. Baby Aida is just being super chill. Yeah, she loves listening to mom do electronics. Okay. That's it, everyone. We'll be doing our shows during the week. Thank you so much for supporting a woman owned company here in New York City. Your orders keep us going and more. Thanks so much. We appreciate it. We'll see you everybody next week.


Okay guys, it was hard for me to get in here because Cody, what was upside down like that? Okay, so as soon as I got home they were screaming their heads off which may seem like something that I'm so used to and I am but sometimes when I'm so used to things I forget to mention them to you guys. So yes, let's talk about when you come home. Your bird might scream his head off when you come home and in this case there's two of them. Look how excited they are to come out. And don't take that as a bad thing. That's actually a great thing. That means that your bird's excited and means your bird's excited to see you and wants to spend time with you.  That means they are greeting you and you need to go over and greet your bird.  I'm very big on understanding parrot behavior. As you guys notice I'm more into helping you guys understand the birds emotions and behaviors than I am into teaching you how to get your birds to do tricks and things like that because I really grew up with birds and I just want you guys to understand all their little cues and quirks.  These two have been screaming their heads off ever since I got home because as a common courtesy birds want you to say hello and you also have to say hello to your birds before you say hello to any other animal in the house now while that may not seem fair my dog he won't really care he'll be like at least she said hi to me birds will be like she didn't say hi to me first what is going on I've been waiting they've also been waiting they're in a cage you are their entertainment so now when you get home what do you want to do with your birds you don't just want to come to them and say hi like through the cage that's not gonna do it you have to bring them out you have to interact with them you have to play with them if you commit to getting a bird that is your job it really is now it's not something that should feel like a job it should feel amazing you should be excited to hang out with your birds let's talk about step up when you get a new bird you want to teach him to step up right now if he doesn't step up you could try to tap him a little bit if he's not getting the memo you could see if he's better at stepping back okay but if that doesn't work you have to play the step-up game with wow so he stepped up but since he was a little hesitant you want to make sure that you do step up and actually physically play the game with a reward Jersey is so jealous guys I don't know what I'm gonna do what you would want to do to play the step-up game is you would tell your bird step up and if he steps up you would make a big deal out of it you'd be like good bird and you would clap for him and or give him a treat it depends on how motivated your bird is and what you find drives him some birds are extremely driven by food so then you want to give him his apple or his treat or whatever but you don't want to stop doing it so let's do it again step up step up baby see so he probably needed some positive reinforcement besides for that like a treat okay so here's some tricks you can do if they're not stepping up you can lift their little footsies and show them you see I'm giving him like a little lift yeah and while you're doing that you want to lower this hand and make it a little less stable because birds always want to go to the next stable spot as you can see and then you tell him again step up yay good bird if your bird is not stepping up you might also want to dip this finger make it a little unstable in itself like that so you lower it step up good bird what a good bird are you talking a lot so this is something that you want to do as soon as you get your bird home no matter how tame your bird is Jersey's literally watching TV with George having a jealous anxiety attack because I'm here with these two now she doesn't exactly know that these two are here but she knows that Cody followed me and she didn't get to follow me these are the kind of things you're gonna have to try to understand and figure out about your bird so Jersey screaming in the back is not just an annoying bird screaming in the back she has a reason and it becomes your job to figure out what that reason is also she hears my voice so I'm part of her flock and I'm here but she can't see me this is very alarming for a cockatoo these are all things that you have to consider you have to become like the next best bird psychologist and when you get really good at understanding birds that's not gonna sound annoying to you that's gonna sound like a bird in distress and you're going to want to fix it and so that's what I do and that's why my bird said to be quiet all day long because I know what they want honestly so somebody bit my ear not hard but still now Nellie is liking my shoulder so she does not want to step up off my shoulder so she could really benefit from some positive reinforcement step up learning like we just did with Monty what I'm doing now as you could see when I go to give her love when I ask her to step up she puts her head down she tells me she's like no no no no and second thought I think it would be much better if you scratched my head so should I give in to her probably not I probably should continue with my step-up training this would be a lot easier if there was only one bird here but I only got one hand available and she's taking total advantage of it not only that but because she is a new bird to this house like her getting loved is not something that I don't want to give I want her to feel loved as there's a lot of noise in this house today oh can't she loves head scratches guys look at what a sweet bird she is she kisses my hand like wherever Cody just said love you Monty what do you think of all this so I try to make some like moves that maybe if you're not accustomed to birds yeah you don't want to just jump into like you see like I go for his head and then I like test out the cheeky and it worked but a move like that could get you bit with a new bird so you want to be aware step up baby oh she's after my ear she's jealous and then she laughs now I want to show you she is not gonna step off me because she loves it there so one problem that we have with her is that she's very territorial and aggressive on the shoulder she's biting my ear she's bossing me around and when I come to get her off she wants a head scratch and me giving in is only gonna make it really hard for me to ever teach her how to get off my shoulder she's doing everything she can so right now this bird is not learning that she ever has to get off my shoulder what about you Monty you're just like a cute little guy they're getting a sniff now guys something very funny is like sometimes birds like get their sniff like where they are I just get mesmerized by birds what did you guys hear Cody he said Marlene at least you guys get to hear Cody in the back okay see oh Monty will step down but we got to get Nellie to a position of learning to step down right Nellie oh we can't you cute face mmm now lead did you say now by the way I swear Monty says hey and somebody said something about baby I swear you hear Cody you said you want Cody go up here can you go up the stairs now she literally kisses me when I want to take her off okay I'm gonna show you guys a little trick that I use to get the bird off my shoulder when I can now first of all you guys remember we had this tool that is very useful for teaching a bird to perch it could be anything that your bird isn't scared of if your bird scared of it that's totally gonna backfire but this bird was totally used to perching up here so that would be a perfect trick to get her off okay yeah she's happy now one thing you guys should know about these birds if you separate them they kind of call each other to go see what's wrong with Jersey do you guys want to sit here and do birdie stuff and and and then I won't watch you and I'll watch the camera later and see what you did what you want to come to me okay I'm gonna go see what's wrong with my Jersey bird what you guys here Cody say I love you and did you say Nellie I left the room for a bit and then they were hanging over here on the side say Nellie I'm gonna leave did you guys hear Cody say Marlene what are you doing this is so hard having birds in quarantine because it's like all my birds want me to be with them so Jersey screaming cuz she can't see me Cody's over there yelling cuz he can't see me he do hear Cody saying Marlene Marlene and these two scream if they don't see me so I'm like being pulled so many different ways and I don't have that many limbs okay so I'm gonna show you guys something whoa love you come here alright guys if you have two birds you have to give them equal attention so therefore everything you do you have to do with them so you see okay she left I don't know where she's going but you guys should know about birds what are you doing one thing you guys should know about birds is that it's good to just be with them like if you're watching TV just hang out with them if you are see my birds are crazy right now she can't see me