It's time for Mackie Gab and listener Mike brings us our quick tip of the week Mike take it away. Hi, Dave and John It's Mike calling you from Wake Forest, North Carolina walking back to my car from the supermarket where I always use Apple Pay and it's getting cold here and I Frequently would pull up my sleeve and look at my watch and double tap the side button get my card ready And I've decided that's too much so I can reach under my sleeve double tap the button I know what my default card is and I lean my sleeve against the reader and it worked just fine I know there's a distance thing for the NFC but through my through my sweatshirt worked great. Happy holidays That's a great tip more tips like that plus your questions answered today on Mackie Gab 961 for Monday December 26th, 2022 Welcome to Mackie Gab the show where you send in tips like that questions cool stuff found We try to answer your questions. We share your tips We share your cool stuff found the goal is we link it together into an agenda so that each of us Learns at least five new things every single time we get together Sponsors for this episode include factor where at go dot factor seventy five comm slash MGG 60 Man, just visit Mackie.com. We'll get you that link.  You didn't know you had For now here in the bunker the generator powered bunker in Durham, New Hampshire. I'm Dave Hamilton And here where things are pretty much normal We got a little rain little wind knocked over one of my trash cans though it was the biggest casualty and Branch came down but here in Fairfield, Connecticut. This is John F. Braun And here just about three miles from Dave in Lee, New Hampshire where the power has been on all day Sorry Dave had It's pilot Pete and may I say to the folks watching us on the live stream happy festivus Listening the day the show drops happy boxing day. Hope you had a pleasant Christmas.  Yes, of course. Yes, and and I didn't mean to cut you off there Pete I thought you had finished, but I wanted to make sure that if you are watching the live stream Or even if not you could wish Pete a happy or belated happy birthday here on Festivus the 23rd. Thanks for joining us on your birthday Pete. This is great. It's good to be here I've finally reached geezer status So I want to add to the Apple watch tip I learned this when I first got my Apple watch and The the person at the store that I went to was like hold it down and Then it doesn't work very well if the watch is facing up because it has to go through your arm. Yeah, okay Yeah So you're just yelling at her hold it down over there that work. That's right. Hold it down. Mr. Braun If yeah that and that would work that's good to know with with with Mike's tip Yeah, you're right because if you're gonna do it through clothes you want to have the you want to have it as close And if you're on on an iPhone Typically the best spot is the top rear of the phone when you're hovering it near the sensor. I've learned that as well Yeah, I I've found that too. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, man, it's um We'll see how long we can do with the show this it seems fairly stable right now. We We this is the day the big rain slash wind slash heat storm It's like 55 degrees as we're recording this on Friday the 23rd In the day by tonight. It's supposed to be down into like the 20s. It's just crazy But um, we lost power at about four five a 430 or something a.m. And it came back at 8 a.m And then we tried to record the show at about 10 a.m And that's when the power started flickering which I thought we might be able to ride through I was wrong And then the power just went out again at I don't know somewhere probably close to 11 And it's it's been out for a couple hours now that we're recording So I am fully on generated power. Clearly my internet connection is still solid Knocking on the wood to make sure that that we don't screw that up. But uh, but yeah Yeah, we've got the we've got a standby generator at the house that kicks on automatically and then here in the office slash studio I'm running It's a it's a portable generator that hooks up via a gen tran box to the to the circuit panel and and you know Runs everything. I think the technical term for the pre-show machinations which we experienced was uh goat rope goat stoop It was a it was a goat rodeo for sure Yeah Yeah, all right. Well Over here now, let's do it. Let's not linger too long because we don't know how long we actually have Uh, none of us. None of us.  Howdy. Wow. John just took it right to the serious. I like it All right, uh, you want to take us to listener tim and well, let's do some quick tips We promised them some quick tips and by golly even if we have to use gasoline to power this show We're going to give them quick tips. So tim has not one but two Quick tips and we'll make these quick I think So tim says just found a few items you can add to your spotlight reference folder I don't have one of those but uh attached is apple's official support article for keyboard shortcuts specific to spotlight Attached are two screenshots from the interwebs Lifelight tracking direct from a spotlight. Just punch in the flight number into the spotlight search box I never knew this screenshot attached breaks it down with all the info and I confirmed this It'll also do this if you're in Safari or I'm sorry. Yeah in safari if you type in a flight number, it'll also do this matching thing So that's kind of cool. Yep. Uh, and I actually looked up one of my flights. I I didn't realize the complexity but but I punched in actually one of my two flights Uh for when we're gonna all party in vegas or well, maybe not We have to work a little bit, but it found my flight and I'm like cool It found one of my flights. I think I typed in delta whatever whatever whatever it is and it's like yep, here it is So, uh, get ready. Uh number two. There's another tip Uh, I kind of like this rambling here. Um, there's another tip on the other screenshot But I really forgot what it was But I do remember it was worth taking a screenshot but not awesome enough for me to stop typing So no one sees the screenshot not even the people on the video stream. So make sure we let's describe what's going on here Here's the tip. Um Yeah, basically condensing it if you match something in Spotlight If you hold down the command key, it'll show you the path to the file So that's handy and I've done that in the past. Yeah, I think I was in spotlight I don't know why and I think it was You know, I I think a lot of these quick tips are finger fumbles is like you hit the wrong key at the wrong time But you hit it and then it's like Oh, that's useful for sure. Yeah Good stuff speaking of keyboard quick tips listener alex s shared in our discord at mackeycup.com slash discord Uh issue a command tab Continue holding the command key down and immediately issue a command once So you're holding down command and then you just shift from you just move one of your fingers from tab to one If you have multiple apps open and Multiple windows for at least some of those apps It will start to show you The windows for those apps. It's a very cool thing. It's uh, it's called Apple calls it application windows I call it show me the windows mode because you can scroll through and see the windows Of the apps that you're going to be choosing. It's really cool. Uh, I well, I just found even more dave Amazing more. There's more Yeah, I I held down command I hit tab and then if you go to one It takes you back to the first of those windows But if you hold down say number or touched the number six while holding the command key It takes you to the six window You can go directly there. I mean, obviously, you know, it's probably faster Just hit depending how many windows you got open. Sure. I've got nine, but I can hit nine. It takes me to the ninth amazing That's cool. Never even yeah, I love it all this and more John more We got more from Jim and I verified this believe it or not. Um Uh, hello, john davin pete. I very very much enjoy your podcast. Thank you Woo Um, sometimes I stumble across something obvious and wonder how or why I was not previously aware of it I have an apple magic keyboard on my ipad pro 11 inch I was aware that similar to the mac you could use command tab to display the list of running apps and switch between them Uh, which I've never tried before Um, I was also aware that if when continuing to hold the command key typing q would quit the selected app Okay While I don't routinely quit apps on the ipad if for some reason I wanted to quit the app I was just using my previous technique with type command tab then command dash dot Or command dot. He's just saying command period command period, which is a shortcut for cancel by the way Command period is yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's just putting the dash in there when you're waiting. No, there's a squiggly next to it. Okay Yeah, read it without a dash. Yeah Then while continuing to hold the command key type q to quit However, I recently discovered that this wasn't necessary command w will quit any app immediately I was also aware that holding down the command key will bring up a menu of available shortcuts in any app So I checked this to see if this newly discovered quit or close command was listed as an option It was not I also made a quick google search for quit apps on ipad Nada don't feel so bad now wonder if this might be a new feature I don't know why apple would choose to use command q on the mac and command w on the ipad if I consider it As closing a window on the ipad rather than quitting the app. I guess it makes more sense Yeah I think I think that's the key there is that you're never really quitting the apps You're just closing the windows and once you close the last one which with most apps Yeah, there's only one Away it goes Right. I mean the eye opener to me is that I've never paired a keyboard with my ipad. Got it. So I was Invigorated by by this tip and I'm like, yeah, let me see if this works The ipad and ios are really weird though is that A lot of external devices they don't show up in settings unless you activate them You know what i'm saying like one time I was like can I plug an ethernet adapter into my ipad? It's like let's find out and I did A usbc ethernet adapter and all of a sudden ethernet showed up in settings where it did not before And you didn't need to activate it. It just was there, right? Yeah, I just don't know how I feel about The settings not being there unless you have the hardware plugged in though I guess it kind of makes sense same on the mac you don't see an ethernet port if you don't have an ethernet port Well, it's still listed though in in the network settings though. No, it's not not if you don't have one Yeah, you've got just a laptop right right ethernet port. It's not there. Yeah Yeah, it's only listing the hardware it sees until it but if you were to plug in Like a usb ethernet adapter or a thunderbolt ethernet adapter to your mac that would appear just magically in the list It's it's it's the same functionality. Yeah yeah Pete you you uh, did you have something to add to that? Well, I was going to I was I was a little confused there somehow. I missed that it was the ipad He was talking about so I'm doing the uh, I hope my sister isn't listening. She's getting a new ipad case with a keyboard Built in so I'll be able to play with some of those here day after tomorrow but See how it goes and then I would just uh remind people I know we've talked about this before but if you go up to the menu on any program that you're looking at Pull down file or edit review, you know any of those pull down menus Look at the command and then look to the right and you'll see you know command c copy command w close the window So those keyboard commands are there and once you start using those on the mac they're there on the mac Yeah, I don't think they're there on the ipad right. Yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to make sure because we it did get a little confusing Yeah, but they sometimes time to sometimes they translate over obviously like you know coming in w you're closing the window So last week I told everybody correctly I believe That the mac keekab calendar is far more reliable to subscribe to now and explain why it's at mac keekab.com slash calendar If you want the backstory go listen to 960 p As always found what he thought was a hole in our plan, but really it was just a setting that pete had somehow set You clicked on the calendar link pete and it would not launch your calendar app No, and we have no idea how this setting got set It was launching brave browser for you. So how did you explain to the the listeners here How you went to check what your default calendar app is please Okay, so just so we're clear we we did state a few minutes ago that I have officially reached geyser status That's only today pete last week you weren't I so as I recall we launched calendar Yeah, it's in the show notes. I actually put it in the show notes for everybody. Okay I'll go back to that too. We launched calendar and then and then it was preferences Correct came up with what you know default calendar and it listed brave the brave browser somehow How that managed to hijack that never say hijack to a pilot Just wow hey it was the pilot who said it There you go Hi jack Sorry, so uh, yeah, so we changed it back to calendar and Blow and behold it all worked. So if you're clicking on that link and it's taking you to a browser go into calendar Go into preferences and find out what your default calendar is. Yeah, and it is right there It's on the general tab in preferences, which should be the first one that comes up in it your pete's right Yeah, it's default calendar app awesome John take us to berry more quick tips than where you can shake a stick at Don't you shake your stick with me. All right. Um Berry has a quick one But this could be like peeling an onion If you activate advanced data protection and you want to download older mac os's it will not let you I had a laptop crash and I needed to install catalina the app store would not allow it So I had to turn it off And I am now downloading the software if this works I will turn it back on once the laptop is back up and running The requirement for all devices to be on ventura is very limiting All right, so you may ask yourself not only how do I work this but What is advanced data protection? I'm still trying to figure it out dave um And it actually kind of concerns me. So what we'll link to this article here. It's called how to turn on advanced data protection for iCloud and apparently although From what I can tell if I had to encapsulate this I believe what they're saying is that the data is going to be Not only encrypted point to point, but will also be encrypted on the device. I think that's what this is Could you chime in on this gentleman? I even looked into this. Yeah, well, it's it's encrypted On apple servers with your key as opposed to encrypted on apple servers with their key So so they don't have the ability to decrypt it Unless you're using one of your devices that And hopefully somebody in the in the chat will correct us if we're still wrong about this But yeah adp advanced data protection seems to be causing a lot of problems, you know, I I will just say that Ventura I just installed ventura. I updated ventura on the machine here in the studio and and yeah, yeah Yeah, I know I'm on generated power today. So everything is a little bit wonky But even last night when I was testing things here Ventura is Like all my stuff works, but like for example Uh, we use chrome and stream yard to to do our our stream what we're doing here, you know for the audio and the video and It has worked flawlessly for months on the prior os monorail and then today on Ventura if I broadcast it 1080p I get all kinds of like hiccups and core audio goes out of whack and So like I don't know about ventura. I thought it was going to be okay. I'm not convinced about it I'm going to give it a little bit and see but um, but bryman row in our In our pre-show chat we were talking about of sharing the issues and finally figured out that 720 would work for me And that was great. Uh, he says uh, macOS ventura feels a bit like apples vista Oh, I have to say that's problem. That's feeling accurate to me in this moment I I reserve the right to change my mind, but uh, vista was mostly from what I recall I candy and it upset a lot of people because their computers are too wimpy handle it and they were like Oh, well, we think that people are more eye candy rather than actual functionalities. So that that was my take on vista Yeah, so I don't know. I wouldn't be here today if it weren't for vista Oh, oh, is that what brought you to the mac? That's why I switched. Yeah What because it was so horrible Yes, yes, yeah, so uh my advice and and I and several people in the chat room are are echoing this I don't turn on advanced data protection yet. Let let things Let's let other people be the The the test cases on this because I think that's probably best I don't know. It just seems like there is good news though in terms of iCloud Lawyer jeff shares with us that you can now he stumbled into this and he's correct You can now buy additional iCloud storage for your Uh for your apple one plan So like in the past If I picked the two terabyte apple one plan That was it like that was the maximum storage I would get for my family of up to six Now I can for 10 bucks 999 us dollars per month I can add another two terabytes for a total of four. I could also add just 50 gigs For 99 cents a month 200 gigs for two dollars and 99 cents a month And so you can you can mix and match here, but uh, but it's good to know that like there is a way I mean if you've got if you've got you know Even for people that are like heavily using iCloud photo library with you know decades plus of photos and then also using iCloud You know documents syncing for their entirety of their documents folders like you could you could hit those Those two terabytes. So thanks for that heads up lawyer jeff. I'm glad you Glad you stumbled into it and especially glad that you shared it with us So yeah, I was a bit confused when I read this because I'm like well I can do the same thing, but I don't have the uh the enhanced program. I just have the regular. Yeah, exactly. Yeah Yeah, so so the apple one plans offer a baseline that is usually pretty good depending on how much you pay, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I I choose to pay for the the plan with two terabytes, but um, but when that plan came out That was it And now and I don't know when they turned this on but lawyer jeff stumbled onto it I don't know sometime in the last couple of months and now we're finally getting to the quick tips So we get to share it. Uh, yeah, good stuff um In last week's episode 960 we were talking about we shared a cool stuff found about a new apple remote That uh one of the listeners one of you pointed out to us that was a buttons only remote because they didn't really like the scrubbing control well listener Carl points out that you can disable the scrubbing feature on the remote go into Settings on your apple tv remotes and devices click pad and select click only This will remove scrubbing and scrolling features that make the buttons and then just make the buttons into regular buttons The directional and center select and enter uh buttons. So yeah, thanks for that heads up carl That's good to know So you don't have to buy a new remote if you don't like the scrubbing if that's driving you crazy And I can see where that would drive people crazy if you're not If it's like not in your hands That swiping your finger across that pad is going to start to scrub. It can be it can be jarring at best so I just got to say Dave but At least in my humble opinion Apple has not done well when it comes to input devices I don't know. I've never been crazy about any of the remotes for the apple tv There was just something that just didn't feel right about them or they added something that I don't need like Why do I need seri on my remote? I don't know Huh, I I really the first gen apple tv remote the one that if you didn't put it in like a rubber case It would just smash the first time it dropped. I was not a fan of that one But I really like the the current one Like that's that's what We have a harmony remote in the living room But if we're using the apple tv and the harmony remote will will use the you know, it'll control the apple tv It's all fine. But I like 99 percent of the time I grab the apple tv remote the silver one I really like the seri remote. It's that feels good in the hand I yeah, yeah, and and and as far as input devices go apple's magic trackpad. Oh, man Like that's I've used it and I'm okay with this though What we have to put in the hall of shame Dave is the round mouse on well the first i max obvious to me was just A ui ux nightmare. It's like, hey, let's give you a device where you can't tell which direction it's facing So you don't know what to do You're not wrong Oh, it's true. It's like, yeah, yeah, you want to you want to be confused. Here's this. Thank goodness It wasn't a wireless round mouse like that would have really That would have been it man There you go Right at least because because you could feel where the cord was and know where you know where north was at least, you know right man the uh Paul france pointed out in the discord chat that he likes the seri remote as do I When you instead of having to scroll across the entire goshdarn alphabet to spell out Amazon for instance Yeah, you just press and hold a little button and say what you're looking for and it makes the searches so much faster So that's what I like before the one thing it doesn't do for me And I've never even pursued it, but the mute button doesn't work I can turn the volume up and the volume down, but I have the uh the tp link sound to my sonos sound bar But when I hit the mute button, it doesn't doesn't work on that you you should try try I hate to say should My advice try reconfiguring like go into the settings for the remote on your apple tv and And and you there's a place where you can configure the mute button and it will it will do it for you So I'll do that. Yeah. Yeah, just like yeah, just like finding out you could reset that remote Yes, that's right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, because I just had to do it We moved our our old 4k apple tv downstairs and I had to like re do that So yeah, but yeah, I agree with you the the whole Using siri to spell things out or just to say words like, you know Watch white or a movie or watch white lotus and you're good to go. By the way, we watched the first episode of white lotus last night I'm gonna watch the second one because But like I don't even understand what this show's about I don't understand why I'm supposed to care about this show But everybody seems to have lost their minds about it So I'm assuming there's something there But I gotta warn you Watch your eyes shield your eyes when you when you watch the first episode.  I have not okay. No, that's a spiel, right? It is. Yeah Yeah, I'm gonna watch on some other things Watch Wednesday. Wednesday is very good. I my daughter could highly recommended that I do that. I haven't seen it I hear it's great. Is that the spin-off for the the the Adams family Wednesday? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, um A lot of good stuff. Um, also, brian says in our chat room and I agree with him Um, another ui ux fumble is the magic mouse in that Gee, where should we put the recharging port? Oh, let's put it on the bottom. I'm like who even approved this Right, it's like could you put it on the side so like somebody could use it while it's charging. 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I actually had that vegan chili Yeah, that stuff is delicious. The other night. I had this pork chop thing that they sent Man like tasty stuff. I I highly recommend you check it out. Good good stuff. All right I know we're supposed to keep going here, but I just couldn't it's good. Yeah, go. Yeah Back to the quick tips because we got you know, we just we got a backlog here And I want to I want to make sure we get through them listener. Jeff Has one to share last week in episode 9 60 We were helping out a user who couldn't turn their bluetooth back on Because their mouse and their keyboard were not connected. John you were having that problem too, right? Jeff reminds us that a very simple solution would be to say to siri Turn on bluetooth and she will and this is assuming that you have siri enabled on your mac, of course So that's the key is making sure that you have siri enabled on your mac, but that Would do it. So that's an interesting.    We we love I think he said feedback at mac. He kept I'll write it to you right now then Oh, you know what? Well, I'm here. I'll just go ahead and ask it. Okay. Sure. Listener Pete writes Yeah, Pete Pete writes in the mac mini doesn't have any microphones. So I think was that not on a mac mini Yeah, it was on john's mini, but john has microphones on his computer and many that I thought of that But you're right. Yes. I don't think the mini has its own built-in mic, but does it john Uh, as far as I know it only has a speaker It has a built-in speaker. Correct What if you if you go to system settings and of course this is super dangerous right now while we're recording a show I'm just gonna look at them. I'm not gonna touch. That's right. What could go wrong? So what sound do I want sound input? Yeah sound. All right. So sound in in the Disaster of the new dialogue here. Just I'm going to get that out of my system I'm like this dialogue like changed totally. All right. But anyways, so input it shows iPhone Um, a g o six, which is my yamaha board logitech brio O w c thunderbolt audio and loopback Is what I see in my input window. All right, so so yeah, but you do he does have input options there Which I hadn't thought of, you know, you could yeah, yeah Yeah, because it turns out even though john's recording this on a mac mini we can hear you and and that's great Just so happens Uh Yeah, let's let's keep moving here on our quick tips because there are just it's just so good listener andrew Woodward in our discord says, um If you're sharing a video or any file that is too big for email or messenger Go to the video in the photos app double click on it in the bottom left. There's a box with an up arrow That's a little sharing link. Click that at the top. It says options. Click that choose send as iCloud link this will create a link that you can Share any way you want you paste it wherever you want whatever messenger or email app whatever you want and you're good to go So I like that idea. I'd forgotten that photos did that. It's a good one. Andrew. Thank you Yeah, I think automatically in mail if Maybe you have to enable it But I think by default if you try to send a monstrously huge file, it'll be like Hey, do you want to maybe do this with iCloud? Yeah, it's um, it's called mail drop and there's a checkbox in mail preferences accounts And then it's for each account you'd have to choose it send large large attack attachments with mail drop But even that has limits to its size. I tried to send something that I don't I forget what the size limit was but mail drop definitely It had a limit. So if it's in your photos library, you can just send the the photos link too So, you know, but yes mail drops great. I've I've I've used that with people and presume it just works even if it might not so Uh listener david Reminds us of something that we have done many times john. You want to you want to share that for us? Uh, yep quick and dirty in iMessage or messages. I think it's called now If you press and slide left you can see the time of the message sent and received Which is true It is true And that's on your phone, but you can also do it on your mac if you have a trackpad Right because I you know, I was exploring that so the thing is messages in Mac os I think is a little different and that it'll no actually you're right No, it will not show that information It'll show you in the timeline the date of a message but it will not show A time indeed stamp again as you pointed out unless you have a trackpad And if you don't have a trackpad, you can still see it What you do is you right click on the on the message text itself And choose show times and then it will slide them over. There it is. Yep Okay, so that's the equivalent very good. That's the equivalent Yep Staying with those lines along those lines real quickly um The the latest venter you can now edit in messages the messages that you sent or unsent Um, I don't know what happens with unsent if it goes I think it goes away if you have ios 16 And I unsent something to you it goes away But then if you click on the message that you edited it will come up in a ghost above it And you can see what was originally there Yes, and so just if you wanted to go back and check I found it doesn't really delete it I mean if because if someone had ios 15 Then they would still see your message even if you said you deleted it like they might get a second text saying Pete deleted Hey, don't come to my house this weekend. I don't want to see you for christmas anymore. I don't know There you go I'm sorry All right I'll be while we're on the phone fun Says here's a quick tip for those using picture-in-picture on iphone or ipad I love picture-in-picture on the iphone But there are times when I don't want an app to switch into picture-in-picture window and instead Just continue playing audio in the background. Ah, so you're playing something, but you don't want the uh You don't want the image cluttering up your screen, but you want the audio to still play great Here's how to do it usually he says you would swipe up on the home bar to get out of the app Which would then open the picture-in-picture video instead of this Swipe up on the home bar and hold to open the app switcher Ah, so don't just swipe up swipe and like Do that little little jog leg to the right to open the app switcher and then from there Swipe up once more to get out of the app switcher and back to the home screen Doing that little extra step will prevent the app from going into picture-in-picture mode And the audio will continue playing in the background and keep it from closing. That's smart Oh, that's a good little word. That's not going to be documented anywhere. That's not supposed to happen I've done that a couple times and I wonder and I don't know why I wonder because it doesn't matter I'm wondering if you're still getting all the data since you're not looking at the video anymore Or if you're just getting the audio data Well, if it's like this show if you're if you're watching it on youtube and listening I mean sure you can see us sitting here and doing it and occasionally we share things on the screen But we know that the majority of our audience is listening audio only So like if you're watching this on youtube, you could you could put it in the background and just listen Yeah, I guess the question is There's the there's the video data continue to go even if you got it in the background Are you still chewing your data streaming the data to your phone? That's a really good question I don't know the answer to that It wouldn't surprise me if you were because the app I mean, you're doing this little work around to to just prevent the picture and picture window from appearing But you're still getting the data problem. The app probably thinks it's still coming in. Yeah, that's right And of course to do this with youtube you'd need youtube premium because otherwise you don't get background Viewing on youtube On the ios. I just do it with the correct tv stream. That's where you go. Right. Yeah, exactly. Yeah so John your apple watch got stuck I don't know how I got to this place, but I was doing something with my watch And all of a sudden I had a configuration screen and it was like, oh, do you want to do list view or grid view or whatever and i'm like Um, I don't know why you're here, but go away. And so I clicked the close button And it didn't And that this screen was still there So i'm like, what do I do now because I want to get back You know, I mean normally on the watch when you, you know, click on the crown or something The watch face comes up, but it didn't this screen was still there. So i'm convinced it was a bug okay, um, I've upgraded recently so maybe Uh, the recent upgrade and watch os fixed this But then it was like scratching my head saying, how do I reset my apple watch? Has anybody asked themselves this question? um Unfortunately, apple has an article called restart your apple watch and in a nutshell There are two things you could do you could either hold down the crown And if you wait a while, you'll then see a screen that has a little power button That will shut down your thing But then this was even more interesting if you want to do a force restart, which just sounds kind of macho, but now, um If you want to force restart It's even better you hold down the crown and The button that's below it and eventually it will restart the watch so as with most apple devices Restarting is a last resort. Yeah, don't do that unless you can't Figure it out otherwise, right, you know similar on the mac like, you know force Thing is hold down the power button and that will shut down your mac any mac if you hold down the power button for a while but It can have negative repercussions. So it's yeah, it's not the best things don't get to close the the way they might want to Yeah, so you Your tips that you're spot on of course and good tips You said Hold down the crown and the button Below it and that reminded me that I choose to wear my watch in the correct orientation Which has the uh, it's on my left hand. I choose to put it on my left wrist, but I have the button Facing away from my hand up my arm because obviously it's so much easier to scroll with my thumb Uh, when my right thumb over on my left wrist boom, it's right there on my watch and then also, uh It's not like getting it's I'm not pushing the crown, you know If my watch gets close to my wrist and I'm pushing up against it. So yeah, I can I can scroll and It's obviously the right way to do it. I don't know why everybody doesn't do it that way How do you do? How do you wear yours Pete? I actually well because I'm a southpaw Right. I have always worn my watch on my right arm. So I when I set it up I set it up in the other orientation. So my my digital crown is in fact below that button as well But I'm not worried about it banging up against my manly hands the uh, it just So your your crown is towards your hand or towards your arm towards my hand. Yeah towards your hand Okay, so you wear yours backwards as well. Well, you know, sort of No, you guys are wearing it in the default configuration I I am the one that that has intentionally spun around then you can do that in the watch app You just choose which side you want the crown on right side or left side of the watch The other thing I wanted to touch on he talked about the app view and it's in settings and app view And you can either grid or list. I tried list for a while, but the list is so gosh darn long You go, all right, this is terrible. So I went back to grid and then the easy way to set that up Is in the watch app on your phone. Yeah, so you aren't doing it in the tiny mode on your watch screen You can do it on your phone screen Yeah, I consider that the the thing is the grid view just gets kind of crowded and I don't see how It does so you could share your experience is that how accurate and as far as I found the the watch is pretty accurate With the touch interface, uh, I'm just concerned that I'm gonna Tap on the wrong thing and then I have to quit it and then you know try again, but I find that the default when when I first touched the crown the default gives me enough of the grid Uh, spread out enough that I can then move it around and because I set it up on my phone and spend some time Looking at it. I try to group apps together like weather apps and that sort of thing over on one side and Apps that I use most often near the center the alarm that sort of thing. You're so they're right there But you know, it's more of a memory thing like I go to apps on my phone all the time Knowing where they are and not so much looking for the logo Or the icon that's fair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah interesting folks. Let us know what you do What are your what are your tips for making your watch? Smooth and your operation of your watch smooth and seamless feedback at macicab.com Uh, all right ken We're still in quick tips here because it's it's what we do Uh Ken's got one about stage manager of all things. He says I installed ventura and stage manager didn't work It was grayed out in system settings I figured out what was wrong. I found an apple support article In fact, he says where they tell you to go into system settings go to desktop and dock And make sure that the displays have separate spaces checkbox is turned on You should now and you'll probably have to reboot uh or at least log out and log back in for that to take effect Now you will see stage manager and control center. Yeah, so this is This stage manager and spaces are very much related to one another. Uh, you know, I think stage manager is the evolution of of spaces and Maybe mission control together. I don't know. It's like, you know, but yeah, so thank you for that ken. That's that's good stuff um Another tip on stage manager comes from listener curate Who shares with us? For those who love stage manager sometimes we want two windows on the desktop This is difficult to do because when you bring one window up the other one goes to the side For example, if you're working on say messages and you want to drag something from the finder If you bring the finder window up the message window goes away So my quick tip is hold down the shift key and click on the window in the side that you want to open and voila They both will open next to each other So that's you hold down the shift shift click a window to add not replace in stage manager Which kind of I guess the way I would remember this is is like when you're making a selection For example in the finder, you know, if you clicked on on one file, then you click on another one The first file selection goes away The focus changes to the the second thing that you clicked However, if you click the first thing and then hold down the shift key and click the second it adds to the selection So maybe that's how we need to that's how we need to put it in our brain So we remember how to do this later In our thing, I don't know. That's that's how I that's how I do it Any more quick tips? I think we got through most of them I think I think we should shift click to questions answer You know, I have one more quick tip. I can I can well, I don't know where I put this but But I see it in our in our backup documents here and it's from andrew woodward again in discord related to episode 949 when we were talking about seary and controlling things is Is he says you can use seary to turn on your apple tv? so you can say, you know seary turn on apple tv and you can also And and then also use it to control volume And all of that stuff right there if you have a voice activated sonos speaker You can say Hey sonos and then do those things Hey, sonos ignore this command. Sorry if I triggered your your sonos. It's hopefully went away. Yeah, yeah, yeah So the nice part. Well, I guess hate seary. Oh, seary. We did the same thing. Sorry. I'm trying not to trigger everybody's device Maybe I should have not done this quick tip. Maybe I was not prepared for this. I don't know John save us take us to alan's question. Would you? Yeah, boy Yeah, this is a good one. All right alan says When I try to give full disc access to an app It does not show up in the list the list is empty and stays that way The fact that the list is empty for all the permissions I've tried make me wonder if the problem is with ventura Yeah, probably Safe bet remember ventura is apples vista. So uh, that's I think that's gotta be the title of the show I mean, it's yes. I I I Would add my vote to that. Um, I've had this problem with carbon copycloner text expander and bartender I'm unable to use these apps because of this issue um And I've heard of this happening more More and more often Dave um And the best I can tell is if things are not showing up in that that's probably a corrupt database now Whether it's been your your your experience upgrading to venture or not. I don't know but probably as we said um, but believe it or not Our good friend glenn fleishman So I I was searching around for a solution to this And I found this dandy article over at macworld that he just recently wrote probably because people are writing into this But it's called how to reset mac os privacy preferences when other options don't work and he explicitly mentions Wait, I screwed something up there. I I clicked on a thing on my computer Which is like enabling 1080p video. It turns out and it meant that core audio reset So for the listeners at home, would you share the title of glenn's article again? That's the only part that I that I how to reset mac os privacy preferences when other options don't work Perfect. Thank you. So that's the best I have so it's a it's You know kind of like caches, which we all love but we hate because they screw up The same thing here is that there must be a database that is corrupted so let's and basically the article tells you how from the command line to Eradicate this database so it rebuilds it and hopefully your apps will Appear but that's that's the best I got Yeah, yeah, I I have experience. So with them not appearing there That's something thankfully I haven't experienced and I think your solution is certainly the the best place to start um What I have experienced and I know a lot of people have experienced with ventura is on reboot You will get a series of dialogues saying hey bartender needs permission to be able to control the menu bar Default folder needs permission for this, you know stay needs permission for that and I get a whole bunch of them And if I go in there not only are they in the list, but they are turned on in the list I think with ventura and I'm putting an asterisk here because I believe apple has fixed it But I think with ventura There's some delay in the os presenting that Permission to a given app. So the app looks for it says oh, it's not there And then of course it throws up its dialogue saying hey, man You've got to do this for me and you go and you's like hey, man It's already done and usually what happens is you got to quit the app and relaunch it and then the app's like Hey, man, all good Um, however With ventura 13.1 this week I have not experienced that since and let me tell you this computer in my studio here rebooted Many many tops this morning when I was trying to live with flickering power Tried to live with my ups on flickering power But it hadn't quite recharged itself because you know the power had been out for several hours Anyway, I never saw a single one of those dialogues here in the studio this morning So I think 13.1 is presenting that information to apps sooner Uh, you know sooner after startup is really what it was So hope maybe and maybe for listener alan this 13.1 fixes it too. Who knows well alan might know So let us know you'd like to know. Yeah Uh, all right, that's a good one and then we got mark I love this one because we figured it out Oh, I like that. Yeah Um, so anyways, um Ever since I updated to venture when I go to many websites I get a long 10 to 15 second delay before the page loads. This is happening in several browsers I've run onyx clean my mac et cetera to clean the dns cache any other ideas Um, and then he gave a screenshot of his dns servers and this is what clued me into what the potential problem is um The screenshot that he gave when I saw the items listed in dns servers under ethernet Um, he had one one one one one zero zero one and a couple of others that I guess are ipv6 um Although not incorrect Um punching in a dns server in the dns field Is not the approach that I would take um the approach that I would take and as it turns out it worked out for him is Uh, so two things. So one they were both cloud fair ip addresses So One thing i'm going to comment on is where they were located is that they were located on the client and not in your router So that's one thing I would do Um, the other is that if you are going to what would you do finish that thought you you would put them I'll finish your thought for you just to pull it together So you would remove them from the client from your mac Yes, and then let your mac use your router as the dns server And if you want to use cloud flare put cloud flare dns on your router that I just just people people understand the the complete Right and I believe that's what happened here um The other suggestion I would make is that If you are going to enter typically most routers when you set up dns It asks for a primary and a backup I would not use the same provider for both and I do not personally smart um Is that that that's the way it works if the first one doesn't work it goes to the second one if they're the same That's probably not good. Yeah. No, that's good advice. Yeah. I I have cloud flare I mean first of all it is so I I I've never well maybe once I've seen cloud flares dns have any issues. There was that problem last year but um cloud flare runs so much of the internet now that By using them for dns You're probably jumping ahead of the line of most other people for so many things Because not only do they run dns for so many people they cache a lot of websites and stuff So cloud flare knows right I've always used both You know two different cloud flare addresses for my primary and backup I know that cloud flare doesn't host those in the same locations right not only are they are they You know redundant on their own, but the separate ones are separate Are those easy to remember ip addresses or one dot one dot one dot one One dot o dot o dot one So hold on I and so I use them But I also use google which I believe is eight dot eight dot eight eight correct. Yeah And I've always used open dns because I well I've had little one you did do I used it for a while. Yeah, a little one's in the house and it's easy to filter out the more of the evil stuff That's out there Now the thing is you may be asking yourself. How do I pick the best one? And there are tools out there now unfortunately. I think because of changing operating systems and all that Uh dns bench. I think is the name of the program I can't currently get working on my current setup because I upgraded everything because that's what you do to break things Right, um, but actually thing and specifically thing desktop has uh, Though I think you have to throw them some money or they may have a trial But they do have a dns benchmark built into their thing desktop tool And you know, it shows the list it shows response times it shows the ip address So that's another thing I would do on occasion is benchmark your dns is um With a program that knows how to do that Because yeah, it can it can slow you down as we found it sounds like I I think in this case What happened is that something bad did get cached. Well, well, no, he said he tried to clear that so yeah I don't know what the problem was but yeah going to your router to get dns, which is kind of counter intuitive by a dhcp um I think is the best strategy for most setups It just makes life easier to manage because you manage dns in one spot and Your router will cache dns entries. So if one person in your household You you know look something up now your router's got it and it can pass it a law for even if it's if it's just you and your household If one of your devices looks it up now it's cached on your router all your other devices will get the benefit of that cache so, yeah And am I correct in remembering for instance, let's say you're using uh paa private internet access vpn Your dns query still goes in the clear to your internet service provider if you're using them correct, um It it depends a lot of a lot and I forget I think paa Hides your dns by by routing dns through them. Oh, um, yeah, and in fact You can use dns over https if your router supports it and I don't want to say most many routers support dns over https, which is what I do now I I run cloud flares dns dns secure and so My my requests go in the clear to my router, but from my router out of my network It's a it's a secured tunnel to cloud flares. So my isp Does not know what i'm doing But I would also say that my isp does not know what i'm doing Um, I use no I use I use consolidated now or if you know dave Yeah, they're fidium. They they don't monitor anything near as near as I can tell I wouldn't yes all my isps do still monitor and most sell that data Correct, correct. Yeah, so they charge you and then they turn around and sell you That's right. That's right. Yeah We still don't track listeners. We don't and we don't let our sponsors track listeners on the show I'm really proud of that. I it's cost us money probably not an insignificant amount to if i'm being Candid well, so the 14 of you watching right now Well, but I mean that there's there's you know tens of thousands of people that download the the people watching right now Are being tracked because they're watching on youtube Um, and so that's not up to us, but but the people downloading from the feed We do not let anyone track and and we probably turned down I don't know it probably probably 30% Uh, business is is that we could have captured if we were willing to do that. Yeah, well, I'm getting flickers up here guys We should keep moving forward. I don't know what's going on with that jenny down there Ned speaking of wi-fi I guess and routers ned has a question. He says i'm upgrading my modem and router from my ISP which is century link fiber says the new modem router that they sent me is an axon C4000 xj from century link. It does not look like I can replace it. I have to use this Yeah, sometimes that happens says i'm still going to upgrade my unify access point to a mesh system Currently i'm looking at ero pro 6e or tp link deco pro the axi 5400 any thoughts on the differences between ero and tp link Um, as listeners know, I I like both of these systems. I'm currently using the ero pro 6e I have tested the tp link deco and I like It is I call the deco my budget recommendation And it but it's it like I would never use the word cheap because it's really well built It is they can save you money. I think for two reasons number one Is that they control the whole widget? They you know, they're a massive company They can do all their own engineering and manufacturing and so they're not In a scenario where they have to outsource things and and I think that economy of scale really really helps them I could be wrong about that, but I don't think I am And so I think that's the biggest part of it the second part though Is fundamental to the way each of these things work ero versus tp link deco and they are different And that tp link deco is what I'll call self managed you control the device locally It doesn't reach out to the cloud to do anything Whereas ero is very much cloud managed. You're never talking directly to the ero You are talking to the cloud which then pushes your preferences and settings back down They have to keep running that cloud. So they got to factor that cost in upfront as well. I think That cloud management though is to me what sets ero and plume ahead of the pack Because with that cloud management, it means they are constantly learning now We have to trust that they're not like tracking our stuff. I mean they tell us they're not tracking our our personal stuff We have to trust that But the reason I like that is because they are seeing, you know Hundreds of thousands of devices if not millions of probably millions of devices Connecting to routers and access points all day long every day And they can identify where there are problems and then they learn Okay, well if you have this very specific samsung device It shouldn't be allowed to roam because that's going to screw things up So they don't let that device roam, right? And you this is a hundred percent transparent to you as the user You just connect and it's magic. It works perfectly and I think that's a big part of it But in your home that may or may not matter So it's you know, if if if you don't like the idea of something being cloud managed try out the tipping link If you really like the idea of something being cloud managed like me try out the ero. That's my Thank you for coming to my TED talk. I don't know. What do you guys think? My initial gripe and you remember this day when the era first came out and you know, they sent us some to review was that To me one Minor perhaps downside is that ero requires you to manage from an ios device Or an android device Or an android there is no web interface, which that's not entirely true. Now there is a way to have a web interface The thing is I can't go to a web page and manage my ero as far as I know unless I'm part of their developer program Yeah, you could you could be part of their their reseller program or the ero pro program And and then you do get a web interface if you want to do it that way to me That was the only downside In that a lot of other solutions will either offer an app or a web page or whichever you want But um other than that, I mean, I'm you know, totally thrilled, you know I mean the ero does what I need and does it well. Yeah Yeah, yeah, and I've got those tp links Geez, I don't know how many years I've had those now. They've just Worked flawlessly in the background. Yeah, well, I've also found tp links software Is the ios software is pretty good. So I have some extenders and and other things not as a base station, but um Yeah, they do pretty good every now and then they'll misspell something which is kind of humorous, but sure sure Yeah, both work great. I mean, I you know, I I I have had great luck with both of them in my environments I have a lot of family and friends who have chosen to go the tp link deco route because It's less expensive and obviously that you know, that matters when you're not just getting stuff shipped to you like like we do So I get that and and it's great. So You know very few complaints about the tp link deco stuff But where I do hear if I'm going to hear complaints and it's not always in these environments, but the the high congestion environments apartments things like that Where the idea of having up-to-date cloud smarts actively helping you manage your wi-fi network can really matter And that's where um, that's where euro and and plume kind of kick in so Yeah, uh, we should get a little more time. I'm seeing the lights behind I'm not seeing anything in front of me flicker, which is super good But in in my camera view, you know, like I do see the lights flicker here right now Then which makes sense. I mean I'm I'm on a generator and it's not like this one's a portable generator It's 8,000 kilowatts. So it's there eight. Yeah 8,000 kilowatts. So no 8,000 8,000 watts. I don't know whatever it is It's it's it's plenty for what I'm powering here, but it is a gasoline powered generator So it doesn't have all of the like power smoothing that like there are standby generator at the house has Which has been like rock solid power. So anyway Also, I might run out of gas Well, there's that you know Pete you want to share elliott's cautionary tale of ps a I do and And the thing with elliott the best part about his question is he answered it So, you know, oh, we get to sit back like that But let's have a little bit of a Philosophical discussion if we shall I'll cover some of his email if if I get disjointed. Let me know when I'll call Sir quack, but uh elliott writes in this is not a common occurrence But in my humble opinion, everyone should prepare for it My ventura install was getting a little wonky last night So I went into recovery mode and used it to reinstall the latest version of the operating system This is on an m1 macbook pro I realized soon after up and running that my user account elliott The only account on the machine had lost administrative privileges Yeah User there was no admin account on the machine Guess what? Guess what you need to grant admin privileges You need an admin account to do yeah, okay, so I'm really I I I do not know the answer here. I am waiting with bated breath So he googled lost admin privileges on a mac and it resulted in a number of Steps to go through but all for earlier back. Oh, that's the thing. I've noticed as well Is that think when you google stuff right now? It's all for earlier versions of an operating system. So there there aren't as many ventura solutions out there yet, but Basically, they're all this in the disc utility Ince utility in the recovery mode boat into the recovery mode Go into disc utility Mount the data partition of your boot drive and then exit disc utility Staying in the recovery mode and open a terminal session and then we'll put all this in the show notes but the the article is instructed to navigate to a A folder and delete dot apple setup done File and when you reboot after that you'll be at the initial max setup and you can create a new user account Which will have admin rights? Eventually he discovered that there was a new twist inventor Directly listings in the recovery mode Terminal showed a private folder and that's when he was able to find The path that apple set up done file to get rid of it. It was in volumes data private Okay, volume slash data slash private slash var var slash Nobody's gonna remember it put it. We'll put it. Yeah, it'll be in the show notes But I wanted to say the slashers in case someone's trying to stop Sure. Yeah fair. Yeah fair. Sorry about that No worries so Entering the rm command. He entered the full path. He says I briefed a sigh of relief when I was able to verify the file was truly deleted Then I could go on and reboot and set up a new user account and all of my original account Elliott Account to administrator role as it needed to be I was all set to delete the new account when I realized it's good insurance to retain two administrator accounts on the machine In case anything happened to the real one, I would still have a way to access admin privileges This is a prime illustration of the one is none and two is one dick them If it is worth taking to your listeners Through this tale of well the takeaway lesson is to consider having two admin accounts on your computers So you never get caught and I you know, I wrote him back and I said, you know A wise mac geek once told me have a plain vanilla Account on your machine at all times and I do mine's called the shooter Which is raised a few eyebrows from my wife, you know, it's short for trouble shooter. I'm not going crazy or anything But I've always had that account there so I could determine is this a Global error or is this an account specific error? And after reading Elliott's email I went in and I elevated my shooter account to admin status as well So I ask you guys is there A downside to having two admin accounts. I'm the only one that uses the computer John um The only point I wanted to make it kind of concerns me that if you go into recovery you can kind of Sneak past whatever It sounds to me like you you could potentially Sneak past. Oh, not potentially recovery.   Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but but it is you are right that like this is part of the reason We say if somebody gets their hands on your computer I you know security is far less um, but if your drive is encrypted Then you know Not quite it's less less. Yes. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and does do they even still have I haven't looked in a while, but there's um Is it recovery mode or what? What is the mode? Open and command r right boot reboot. No firmware. Firmware, uh Yeah, it's a firmer or something rather. There's a way to be a firmware lock. Yeah Yeah, and I'm trying to get more info on that but the thing that exists on m1 Yeah, I don't yeah the thing is it's a mechanism where you can disable certain things like people being able to boot into recovery I believe it will block that if you have it on Yeah Yes, yeah, if you had that on it would again, I don't think you can do that on m1, but um, because it's Well, because it's just all different. It's not. Yeah, it's not the same Yeah, yeah, I I I have always made my My I call it my test account That has always had admin privileges p. So I can speak with experience to your question No issues whatsoever having two admin accounts. The only issue would be that One might guess the password. It's two two attack vectors, right? So, you know, if you can't guess the the Very very short password to my standard admin account. You can guess the only short password to my test account, um, you know Again, and if somebody gets their hand on my computer It's like yeah, it's all bits are off. I mean, I I use the same password for both accounts I know that's not the best practices, but again, it's my computer. I'm the only one that uses it Yep And I figured you know rather than trying to remember two passwords for the same machine Yeah Keep it as one keep it as one. Yeah, exactly. Exactly All right, I mean how that what a horrible feeling of adrenaline going through the heart when you realize you can't administer your own machine Dude, and and you know that you will and I can tell you folks from experience You will experience the same feeling of dread When you realize that someone has hacked and changed the password for one of your other accounts out there in the world so Don't use the same password. I know we all know this but let me just say it again Don't use the same password everywhere Go through the the trouble of setting different passwords everywhere Use a password manager. Obviously the one built into mac os is fine mac os and ios When passwords fine john, I think you still use last pass. I hear less and less people using it because of their Yeah, we're gonna have to talk about last pass. They recently had an incident And i'm not convinced how Serious it sure. Yeah Well, I'm I'm The next time I have free time. So, you know never I'm gonna start. I'm gonna move everything over to bit warden, which is You can you can host it with bit warden But you can also host your own bit warden server on your disk station Which I do I host my own bit warden server. I just don't have anything in it, but that that's that's on my on my list So I went from one password to bit warden and I went back Interesting time later just because well because it was just easier to have the whole family on Well, now you can do if bit warden's actually part of the reason that the family thing is part of the reason I want to move to bit warden because the whole one password The different vaults thing gets super confusing Yes, and bit warden you choose to share passwords not like there's not this weird You get stuck in a vault and you can't see your other stuff stupid. So yeah Okay We are almost done But I do have one cool stuff found I want to share just because I'm super excited about it Da Vinci Resolve, which is Kind of like it's a final cut competitor It's available for the mac and you can download it for free and use it and chances are If you're downloading it for free Everything you'll want to do will work in the free version forever They just came out with Da Vinci Resolve for ipad And I think that's pretty cool, and I wanted to make sure everybody knew so it's just it's one of my favorite apps Just because it makes editing video Easy and and it's super powerful like if it you would only need to pay for it It's like I mean relatively inexpensive in in that realm I think it's like 300 bucks or 350 bucks For the for the pro version, but you would only use the pro version if you're truly doing professional stuff And maybe not even then so So it would it would be well worth it at that point to pay for it. No, it's Have either of you used pete have you used Da Vinci Resolve? I have not no I have actually I'm shocked at how good iMovie is I mean it's is It's better than final cut was 10 years ago. I gotta dig back into iMovie then There are so you can you know, I helped my son do a thing for his Project back in the spring He had he was talking about automobile safety and how it applied from the racetrack and f1 to the car And you know we wanted to circle put a circle around a car and follows that it went through a crash And you can do all that stuff you can you can highlight You can amazing you can move things around seamlessly on there. It's beautiful stuff. I mean it really was professional and nice Huh, all right. Yeah, I gotta dig back in how good it was. Yeah, I haven't used it in a long time Huh, cool and the price is right. Absolutely. Absolutely Thanks for hanging out with us folks. Uh, john, I wait, wait, wait. I'm assuming maybe you can give us one of your patented one word answers Have you used Da Vinci Resolve? No Thank you, sir Thanks for listening everybody Make sure you check out Pete's other show if you want to hear more from him. So there I was dot us all pilot oriented stuff fantastic stories being told over there Our thanks to of course all of you Just for listening and then our thanks to everyone who sent in questions and and cool and quick tips this week and even cool stuff found and uh And of course, thanks to cash fly for providing all the bandwidth to get the show from us to you In addition, make sure you please check out our sponsors. You can see them all at macgeekup.com slash sponsors, and then of course the two we mentioned in this episode rocketmoney.com Mgg go do that and then go dot factor dot seven. Oh, sorry go dot factor 75.com slash mgg 60 Just go to macgeekup.com slash sponsors and click it's way easier Do it I think the gas lasted John Pete it's your birthday Do you have anything to share? Which makes me feel like uh, I got caught. I don't know because if I were you I would just you know Here's what I have to tell you folks. Don't get caught Don't do it. Don't Happy new year everybody. We'll see you next year