What happened to my man? Hey, buddy.  I'm back All right, mr. Had to take a pee break. That's a weird shot Mr. Had to take a pee break. That's like an only-fans shot What are you doing there? I'm being an adult. I'm finally an adult. I'm being an adult This is literally an iconic moment. I'm an adult 19 plus happy belated birthday belated. It was last winter fest Okay, so we're at the media day We're gonna try all the food that's coming out this Season you got the peach ale. I got the peach ale. Yeah, I got the watermelon.  Thanks. Are you? It tastes like beer Really really good, but yeah, it tastes like beer. I was not expecting that. Well cider is beer Yeah, but like I was expecting like, you know, the Apple cider they have at winter fest.  Not even yeah, but you don't get the can always said every Because I'm gonna get them all those are amazing. Okay.  Yeah, it's all beer though. It's sparkly. Yeah, that's honestly the best. Okay, buddy Okay, buddy That's too much camera time. My hands are shaking too much. Oh my god. Is it gonna look like this? You guys has the beer coming okay a little bit more. They'll be nice and okay. Now. Let's try the fit here. You take the first bite. I Not the first but oh, what did you get yours is different? Oh, you didn't get a sausage with it very different.  Sure was Suria He's like after you Here's my Yeah, thank you We can make 18 plus jokes now, right Yeah, we can. Yeah. Yeah, we just can't do it to me No with that attitude buddy What God edit out? He got Canceled. Oh Right, right, we should be split. Okay. We'll come right back So Brendan you're eating your culture. Yeah How's your culture days? I think they do it better than you do I Get like the powder I do too to be honest I can already tell I'm not trying to hate but there's no there's no spices in it very Irish very Irish to hot dog Yeah, it's just a hot dog It's not I think that's Irish It's like is it hot dog or sausage? No, that's what I'm saying did they use hot dog or sauce because that's a hot dog That's a sausage, but it's but that might be very Irish I think that we're very bland Tell that to those mashed potatoes are pretty good like everybody polish the plate I got to finish mine before he gets grabs at it I'm sorry, I swore beef So this is the taste of Caribbean Honestly, it's like a whole meal Yeah, I am too Oh, it looks like a steak You're watching what? What were you what? Oh dear God? What a gentleman My bad. Oh, he got us water. Thank you. I got my water Thank you. Take a bite. Thank you. I want to take a bite. Oh my god That's actually really good. Really? That's really good. I have a lot of flavor Why are your eyeballs so white? Yeah, you want them red green Very Papa Smurf, let's see what you think What's that supposed to mean you're big and blue Seating y'all I don't you don't want you want to see look now you don't feel so conscious at all It's really good, but That's It's actually like tastes good like it's oh my god Just the taste is interesting, but it's too spicy. It's cooked to perfection, too. Honestly, look at Papa Smurf. Yeah, that is fine. It's Sorry, that's really good Why is this gone anyway? Well, I think they got four yeses for this one easily You know what's flying Syria because he can't keep his head on the ground like oh my god all he's been talking We do not sound like we're friends We are bullying each other Never Okay, what do we have here really couldn't even read it. This is a This is a churro sundae donut, and it's made by Grace actually Grace is currently working right there. You know, she's a multi-tasker Does everything for the park? As you can see. Yeah I got the cheesecake I'm so excited for this sundae though. Try try the sundae Everyone knows what cheesecake tastes like. Nobody knows what cheesecake tastes like. Not wonderland Is it warm? Yeah, it's hot. You didn't feel the bottom of it. That's why the ice cream is melting so quickly Oh my god, it's good. Oh, yeah How are they doing this year so different?  I'd like to update the people for longer, but I'm gonna eat mine Instead of a cookie, which I took a picture. It says it on the thing Seria, there you go. There's your Leviathan Thank you, thank you sweet I do a taste test Okay, so who has what Okay Okay For a light beer, it's quite nice Almost a little citrus the aftertaste This was just beer So you have the light you can tell by the color IPA yeah, yeah, it's a little like line No, this is a line specific line I can take line here. All right, everybody let's switch How we got canceled, okay What is this one? Yeah, now you have behavior that I have you come you know Wow, this is a lot more stronger I like I personally like the light beer the loudest and now confused who hasn't had what That has a citrus the aftertaste like they have one What is that one this has a smell Why is the Leviathan the weakest one Oh, yeah, this is the weakest one of the beers He should be able to handle it That's strong. I Want the can't know thank you. I don't like beer try to try to know I don't drink beer. No, no, I don't drink beer That's just personal preference not anything So what happened He hasn't had that he's a lightweight though that and he's just like I've seen him drink before and It's not bad Like beer, yeah What I'm gonna get Had a little too much samplers together. I'm gonna get sick. It's like a Niagara trip. Yeah, no Don't drink anymore. You've hit your limit for me my I'm taking this out of your hand though. Give up You've had too much Yeah, you were done and then now that I do I just got it all over me throw it out show restraint This is what you do when you hit your limit. There you go Look at that We recognize left-right and center Really? You've been friends that is giving a chapter. No, I didn't use those words Oh my god You just got in the way of a family Okay, my turn I said don't jump and what does he do? He full-on. I love you son to my back now Jonathan's turn Jump on Jonathan's back I'm kidding Jonathan. You are not in the right No, no, yeah, Kate's turn. Is it like Leviathan?  Oh It's more fun than you guys, but you are the right Kick kick kick


So this is a game called patchwork. It's a two player game. And I knew this game was hot because when I was working in the PAX library multiple years in a row, right, this game would be coming in and out and in and out. As soon as it came in and went out, people wanted this game. We only had like one copy, which I think maybe felt like it had a higher demand than it deserved because it was a low supply situation. If we had more copies, you probably wouldn't have that problem. But anyway, two player game. I knew it was hot. I've seen it in stores. And recently the iOS app was on super sale, like way discounted. So I bought it. I learned how to play using the app. Today I read the rules PDF. And it turns out the app taught me how to play exactly 100% correctly. The app has an amazing user interface with very few, few flaws. Rim read the rules, which are really short. So he learned how to play. We played twice. I completely destroyed rim both times because I've been practicing playing this on the app for like a few weeks. And I literally never played it before. And you didn't try very hard. Yeah. Well, I wasn't going to spend the time to really look at, but all the potential pieces, but even if you had tried very hard and learned to play, you played it a lot. I mean, the margin of victory by which I destroyed you even in the second game was so vast. I think that, you know, even if you practice this for a while, I would still be better than you. I am. I will play this game enough to prove you wrong on that at least. I think you could make it close. I do not think that you could beat me on any consistent basis. There is the tiniest amount. There's not that much going on in this game of luck in terms of who goes first, which could matter. And if two players were truly equal, depending on the peace distribution, first player could determine winner in like a small percentage of games. And that's about it. Right? So here's how the game works. You're trying to make a quilt, right? And the best quilt wins with big old like extended Tetris pieces. It's sort of like block is right. This is a set of pieces. And it's the same set of pieces for every game. And some pieces are going to go to player one. And some pieces are going to end up with player two. And some places are going to end up with nobody. And you're making a quilt. And at the end of the game, best quilt wins. And here's how it works. On your little board where you make a quilt, which is a nine by nine board, every empty square left at the end of the game is minus two points. So it's 81, nine times nine times two, 81 times two is 164, 162. You can have negative 162 at the end of the game if you don't put any pieces down. That's not going to happen. Also, you then get one point for every button you have. A button is like this currency. And you start with five. And then as you get a certain number of incomes as the game goes on, and the incomes are equal to the number of buttons that are in your quilt already. So certain pieces in your quilt have buttons sewn on to them. And those pieces will generate currency for you every time you pass a currency spot on the track. And the track is this timing track. So basically the way that archaeologist game, right? So the timing track is whenever you add a piece to your quilt, it takes time to sew it on, right? So you get these hourglasses. And when you've got to the end of the game, right, is you've spent so many hourglasses that your piece moves off the edge of the board. So you can think of it as everyone starts the game with X hourglasses and the currency that you're spending. And as you spend more of them, right, you cross certain checkpoints and thus get your income points. And you're also this little one by one squares that you can get by moving faster than the other player around the track. So if you spend a lot of time and get high hourglass pieces that you move faster, which is good and also bad, which is interesting because the game is it's one of those rare games that has two very different currencies and pretty disparate. Like the ranges range from like one hourglass to what's the highest hourglass on there. I've seen sixes. Yep. Yeah. The cost range from like one to ten is zero. There was a zero piece that you can get. No buttons whatsoever. So as a result, the game has a lot of sort of play like within a very narrow band like the rules are simple and there's a narrow space in which to make your decisions. But there's a surprising amount of play within that space. Right. That's the best way I can describe the brain for the first few times I played this. I thought the game was problematic and that it was a snowball game. If you got pieces early that had a lot of buttons on them, then you would get a big income early. Right. Like if you think about it, if you got a piece in your quilt with one button on it right at the beginning of the game, you actually just netted one button per income phase. There's a set number of buttons are not only the currency of the game, but their points at the end. Right. There's a set number of income space times. You're only going to get income X number of times. I forget how many is like seven or eight times or something like that. So if you got one button right at the beginning of the game, right, that's huge. If you get two buttons right at the beginning of the game, that's really huge. Like you're getting two times eight. That's 16 buttons. Like that you're not, you're getting. If you cross that first income phase without any buttons in your quilt, like think about how much that comes out to at the end. Right. So I thought that the way to win this game was to get a bunch of buttons in your quilt early at any cost to get huge income to buy amazing pieces, to have tons of buttons and just fill your quilt in as best you can. And then at the end of the game, we're going to win with a big fistful of buttons. And that is true to some extent. Right. If you do get a bunch of buttons early, you will have a big income and it will snowball and you'll have a good score generally. That is, however, I was afraid it was, but it wasn't. You cannot like guarantee and lock in a win that way. It's not somebody else can have a lower income. It's only a two player game. They can have a lower income and play more efficiently and fill in their quilt better. And as long as they have some kind of good enough income, they can beat you out if you can't fill in your whole quilt because you moved so fast and sort of like how in a lumber of someone else might be getting a bunch of pieces and setting up their stuff really well, but you've been accumulating the right numbers in this giant hand. And then you have a turn where you're like, I want that tile, that tile and that tile. Yep. It happens.  That's great. I bought a piece that cost one button and that means I'm still got nine buttons left. That's like, that's nine buttons. I didn't spend that you spent. Right. So even though my income is less, I actually got more buttons than you because I'm just holding on to them. I have a moderate income and I'm buying bargain basement pieces that are really effective.  You spent them all on the Mercedes piece and the, you know, the Ferrari piece. And now you broke son. Guess who wins now with these two currencies. Think of it this way. You've got one currency that is victory points and you, you get them as income and you spend them to buy pieces that may or may not provide more income. Yeah. The other currency is a fixed one where there's only a certain number of spaces you can move in the entire game. So there's one currency where you can only go down and it's worth a buff kiss at the end. You're always going to hit zero. But at the very end of the game and the very last piece you take, it doesn't matter how many you take. So if you've got like one hour glass left, you're going to cross, you're at the next to last space on the board. As soon as you take a patch and add it to your quilt, it will be game over for you because you will cross the finish line. You can take a piece that has like theoretically like a thousand hour glasses on it because they let you do that. So you actually, it's a variable number in that you don't have to cross the finish line exactly. You can benefit quite a lot by squeaking your way up to the finish line and then taking a piece that has like eight hour glasses on it. No. So I mean, in the end, I mean, I'm probably going to buy the game, but I've been collecting, I put it in the same class as Lost Cities and the Morals game, the Mushroom game. Yeah. There's a bunch of games that are like little two battle lines. They come in the flat square box. Adelines is Canizia, right? Yeah. Yeah. And it's one of those ones and it's a good one of those ones. There's a reason it keeps getting checked out of, you know, the PAX library constantly. And also it's pretty short. It's quick. It's really quick to learn. Yep. There's a lot of play in terms of skill and like you can just sort of play it. Like you're not going to play it out unless you really start memorizing build patterns. You start memorizing. Like you, you could really overanalyze. I've played it for like weeks on my phone and I'm still playing it occasionally. It's a good pooping game, I think. Yeah. Good pooping game. I think the best thing about this game is that, you know, even compared to something like Lost Cities, it is way more accessible even to not board game people. Yeah. It would take me five minutes to explain this game to someone who's never played a board game before. You can get anyone to play this game and the theme is even accessible. Lost Cities requires me to explain a whole bunch of math repeatedly and people still don't get it. Right. But the quilt building part, you know, the theme of quilt building is totally chill with everyone, right? No one's opposed to quilt making. No one's offended by quilts. Right. And then you it's totally Tetris piece putting together, which is literally the most popular game that humans want to play. So if you just say, Hey, you know, it's like blockus, right? You can just get anyone to play this. And the fact that it's fast and also two player, you know, you don't need to get this whole group of nerds together to make it happen. You can just open it up with one person and teach them to play it and go. I think it's like a super good entry way. If you need to get one person into board gaming as a hobby, this is like maybe the best game you can get. And in general, these games, I can't think of another two player one that's as good at that. You need to bring a few of them anytime you go to a gaming con like a packs, because you're always leaving the situation where three of your friends are in the middle of a tabletop game. And there's and then you're sitting there just waiting for them to finish. And another person walks up and you need to keep them in your orbit until the next five player game. Yeah. Get the app on the iPad. It's even because then the setup is way faster. Yeah. I think I would prefer to play it with physical pieces because then they're all out all the time just the iPad to the app's credit. It lets you scroll around and see all the pieces. And when you're zoomed in, it shows you a representation of everything that's like it really lets you look at all the information and it's like the app does as good a job as it can do. And it's yeah, like 90% there. It's like one of the best board game apps I've had ever. That's why I'm not complaining about giant iPad helps. But listen, I play on my phone. No problem. But I would prefer it physically just because of the way I play games with extant information like the pieces. Yeah. If I could see being able to see everything at once and not having to scroll to like remember what I just looked at. Yeah. It would be very helpful. But I mean, you're not going to make that happen in a even on a. But that's it. It's a trade off. You can get that holistic extent information experience by playing it physically. But then you have to do all the stuff that the game just sort of handles like counting out the income will slow the game down. Yeah. It's like, okay, what's my income? That could suck. But it's a good game. I'm probably going to buy it.  Yeah. This has been geek nights with rim and Scott special. Thanks to DJ pretzel for the opening music. Cat Lee for web design and brand okay for the logos. Be sure to visit our website at front row crew dot com for show notes, discussion news and more. Remember geek nights is not one but four different shows sci-tech Mondays gaming Tuesdays and my comic Wednesdays and indiscriminate Thursdays. Geek nights is distributed under a creative comments attribution 3.0 license geek nights is recorded live with no studio and no audience. But unlike those other late shows, it's actually recorded at night.


My name is Henry Cook and I am the project officer for the Biodiversity Means Business Project. It is cited on the Wrexham Industrial Estate and it's part of a North Wales Wildlife Trust project. Originally we started the project in 2016 as a project to work with businesses on the industrial estate. There are over 365 businesses on the industrial estate and a lot of them have land around the edges of their units which we work to sort of manage sustainably. Currently there's a lot of practices going on including mowing and development and things which threaten some of the special species that live here. There are things like barn owls here and other rare species which need our help and can thrive in this setting. Well the Wrexham Industrial Estate because of its unique history is actually more diverse and supports more species and habitats than the surrounding countryside. So what we are trying to do is look after the wildlife within the industrial estate but also provide wildlife corridors that extend out into the local countryside and connect wildlife across the entire area. Well since the start of the project we've seen the business land holdings and areas owned by or managed by local communities and farmers improve markedly for wildlife so we've seen areas of land that were previously mowed 15 times a year of very little biodiversity value, managed now as wildflower meadows benefitting bees and birds and butterflies and everything that benefits from these habitats. We've seen orchards planted, we've seen woodlands planted, we've seen hedgers renovated. It's been absolutely fantastic. So the main benefits of the funding from the sustainable management scheme has been to allow us to contact new businesses, bring businesses into the project, speak to them and let them know there's another way of doing things, one where we embrace wildlife and bring it to our doorsteps. The positive effects not just on wildlife but on people are significant. This includes mental health benefits and well-being benefits from people being able to get out, enjoy the industrial estate and get a breather during their working day.


This my man, OJT, and this is Queen of the Mall, yeah. Don't call me White Girl. Yeah, Officer John Tackle.  This is Gilly the nut, White Girl, even though they say don't call me White Girl, I'm gonna call the White Girl, you now tune into me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Me and I was worth a game. This is brought to you by Barstool Sports. Listen, man, let me tell you something. Stop playing my handle, man. You got people calling me. No, this Officer John Tackle. No, people calling me John. Officer Jonathan, his old name is Jonathan. People calling me JT before we get started. Let's get into our sponsors, you know what I mean? Hold on, our first sponsor is CBD, MD. So this man I was worth a game is sponsored by CBD, MD. Y'all know I'm heavy in the CBD game. I done had a lots of people send me CBD over the years, but y'all know I'm gonna tell y'all the God honest truth all the time. I never sugar-coated nothing. CBD, MD got the best CBD on the market. Hands down. It ain't no sports right now. Everybody going through it. Ain't nothing to watch on TV. You probably don't watch everything on Netflix. So you know what I've been doing. I just been playing PlayStation and getting some good sleep. Every night I get that good sleep. You hear me? That's CBD, MD. You can go there. You can get the CBD, PM, soft gels. Oh, I popped that right there before you sleep. Like a man that been at work for 24 hours straight. Get some of the best sleep in your life. Or you can get the CBD, PM. 500 milligrams of high quality CBD with melaton, valerian root, chamomile and other sleep and promoting ingredients to create a powerful and effective sleep. So man, get you some good sleep right now. CBDMD.com is where it's at. Promocode game, of course.  Listen, they got the lotions. They got everything, man. They got everything on there. You got back pain, neck pain. Listen, CBD is the new wave. I know a lot of people out here running late. CBD is the new wave. Make sure you visit CBDMD.com and make sure you put the promo code GAME and so you get 25% off. You wanna get into this? Listen, man, let's get into me and I was with a game. That song of the week was brought to you by Olam, Act Bad. But let's get into this, man. Let's get into this. I wanna talk about something, though. Let's get into it.    You know what I'm saying? They don't know what they're facing out here. They don't understand that power of one. That's very important. I talk about it.  The power of one is the power of that one decision that could change your life for good or could change your life for bad. I don't wanna sound like a broken record, but I got to because I always, like one of my things as a person to me is always trying to get some, like just school to young boys and make sure that, you know, go in the right direction because I ain't had nobody that continuously would beat me in the head. You know, somebody might say something to you when you was coming up and I was coming up in the streets of Philadelphia and I thought I knew everything. But it wasn't told to me enough. And the dudes that did tell me some real stuff and try to deter me from operating in the street culture, they was outnumbered. So I'm the dude, I got a loud microphone. I try to keep giving it to them. And I talk about people about the power of one, right?  He was in prison with me. It was a ride. He was in prison for a ride. He was in prison because he was in the car with some I. Dude got into a little dispute, shot the block up, jumped in the car, peeled off with him and he was with him. Conspiracy to murder. I'm saying is this, you gotta know who you're dealing with out here. You gotta know how to move around and you gotta understand, everybody don't got your best interest at heart. You gotta surround yourself with people that's gonna lift you higher or people that's going, people that love their self, love their life, they freedom.   And it's not just that, you got it in sports. I didn't have young cats that I talked to, professional athletes, and they trying to figure out, let me like, damn, what do they do with some of their associates? It's like, you in Denver, Colorado playing football homie or you in Salt Lake City, you playing basketball.  And that one decision, that one night that you running around with your homie, could take everything that you can work hard for. You know what I mean? Just because now you in the news, cause you with your homie, he's not thinking about that.  And then it's the flip side, the power that one decision that could change your life forever. Understanding, damn, you know what? Let me, let me discipline myself. Let me make sure I ain't in certain places. Let me make sure I'm doing what I need to do in order to get where I'm trying to get in life. See, a lot of times you got to do what you need to do so you could do what you want to do. And I think a lot of times we understand that.   And that's a lot of people's problem is not having that discipline. That discipline is one. Wanting it right now is a lot of people's problem. And I was playing for like a five, 10 year plan and I'm still operating that plan.  You got to like, everybody, we live in the world now.  Cause I'm like, you didn't see people put a post up and they life change overnight because it might go viral. So everybody looking for that viral moment, but it's about, listen man, ain't no two people in the history of life made it the same way. So you got to stop looking at people life on. So everybody is looking at something on social media. Everybody from, you know, a relationship, person being in a relationship, they looking at the, they may tell them some, well, what's the name? Just got a herbo boy, you know, his, his what's the name, G-wagon, G-wagon. We don't live in that type of zip code for me to be buying you a G-wagon. Like people don't understand. Like we don't, we don't, I'm not even getting that type of money for me to be buying you something like that. I don't, I don't, and we got to start appreciating what we, what we got right now and start staying dedicated and focused on what we could work to become. And I just think that social media has really fucked us up to believe that right now, I mean, right now, and it was like, if I could see it right there and they doing it right now, but I didn't see when they were sleeping on the couch. Somebody couch or, I ain't see what they. They ain't see what it took for you to get the way you got. When dudes was in the bathroom studios, they may have had a little mixer and they got a little mic and they in the bathroom rapping and trying to come up and grinding and doing shows for free. Like people ain't see, you know, people ain't see when Dan Wildo was something. People didn't see it, not everybody.   And I'm walking and I'm saying, I ain't, you know, I come home from prison.  They're like, man, people say, wow, Dan Wildo, yeah, I'm staying on the train. I'm operating my, this TransPass. Fuck, I'ma get in the, you know what I mean? I come home looking for hacks on the corner.  I said, what happened to the hacks on all of Broadnay, man? Ain't nobody ever hacking, what happens to the hack man in the market? That's how long he was like, I'm looking for the hack man, for sure. I'm looking for a fake cab truck. I'm looking for the hack man. But then you always say, nigga, why are you always walking? I'm saving my paper. And I'm trying to do scenery, you know what I mean?  But it's about having a discipline, you know what I mean? And staying in your lane. And let me tell y'all something else about the Power of One. The Power of One, as far as business, is the decisions you make. You feel what I'm saying? Like a lot of times the Power of One, that one decision could be whether your career do this or whether your career do this. You know what I'm saying?  And me being one of the CEOs or one of the people who speak up for the company, I turned the record deal down.  You know what I mean? Well, that's you. I would have been a- The Rock! What was that, man?  The Rock! We'd have been a fuckin' Rock. Because you already know how I feel about a Rock. I always say to Jay-Z, you used to be right behind him. The Cuck! No, no, no. Why did you turn it down, Gil, seriously? Because he's a nut-ass nigga. The money wasn't right. What you mean? I turned it down because- I would have been- Because that's a solo. Because as a solo artist, I had already signed my solo deal where I got a certain amount of money. I got six figures put in my account. I got 15, 16 points, a bump at gold, a bump at platinum. And then a deal come through for a seven-man group for only 12 points.  Oh, that's such and such. Oh, I'm happy to be with such and such.   I was one of those niggas.  I had got my Rock chain through the Rock up. This nigga's crazy.  You know what I mean? Doors would have opened when I had the Rock chain. That's the sort of Rock was even on there.   Let me take Dane with that.  Get my bags. This is pre-state property time. I would have been a Dane Bag carrier nigga. I would have never carried this bag. You would have been Cain Dane Bags. Fellas. You would have been Cain Dane Bags nigga. Here it would have been.  You would have been and let you dance all on stage. You would have been a dancing nigga. This is before the state property. But you were all out, you like this.   I need to get to the bottom of this. That was a heavy major figure fan. I need to know the story. Fuck, it's wrong with you. But no, it was before, but they had to change, I think. It was prior to state property. He would have here to have been running around the cut. I mean, like see, this board don't know how to operate. The cut. I would have got my chain, right? Listen, anything I love. It'd have been like, follow is the Rock. White girl, white girl. No, but I love old Dane's piece. I would have got my motherfucking chain.   Same thing like with baby. Same thing like with baby. I'd have got my cash money chain. You should have got the chain, Gil. I'd have got the chain.  First of all, you would have got the, I know you. I'm flabbergasted. You would have got the chain. I'm flabbergasted. Here to run through the whole industry.  Because back then, niggas was hunting. Here to have been cool with everybody. What's up, here with all in the Bronx, where niggas see his rock chain. Give me that.  No, no, I wouldn't.    Who robbed you? Pop got shot in the studio, nigga.  Shout out to Pop. Don't mention Pop. All right, people. I'm just saying, I'm just saying back then, back then, niggas got robbed at studios. Niggas got shot at studios.  Like, no, no, like at studios in Manhattan. Not studios out there.   I didn't say it still happened.  Shout out to thundercats. But what I'm saying is niggas don't really be jewelry hunting now. Who do you think would have got robbed, me and him first? Who do you think would have got robbed?  Who would have got robbed?  Break it down. Don't do this. Break it down, white girl. Who would have got robbed and why? And who wouldn't have got robbed? This is in the late 90s, early 2000s at the studio. Who would have got robbed and who wouldn't have? I must say they would have robbed Gilly. Thank you. Because. Why they wouldn't have robbed me? Just break it down. He's the rapper. They gonna assume. No, no, no, I was a rapper, too. I don't know your rhymes, Wallo. I know Gilly.  I was, I tore him out of, I took him to the studio. I don't remember your rhymes, Wallo. But they wouldn't rob me. That's all the matter, right? First of all, first of all. Wallo, I don't remember your rhymes. First of all, how you gonna say they wouldn't rob them when we robbed the nigger for his chain, then we want the dancers. Shout out to the dancers.   Let's come up to 2020, guys. Let's come up to 2020. Thank you, 2020. 2020. So the deal wasn't right. You turned the deal down in. And sometimes, back then, I had to think, damn, did I make the right decision? Was it the wrong decision? Was it, should I had took the 12 points with seven niggers? Break 12 points down. Break that down. Break that down.  God, dang. Don't know nothing about 12 points. Is the points that you get on your road? Yeah, you feel what I'm saying? As far as how much money you get off of. So 12% of a dollar? I'm asking. Some people don't know. I'm asking. Is that 12% of a dollar? It's basically ownership of your music. They would have to break it down too much. Yeah. Too much to split.  It was a lot of major figures.  You wouldn't get a lawyer to see and break down all the everythings and the ins and outs. The major figures. Nigger. I knew the specifics. I was a huge major figure fan.  Crazy. 12 is bigger than 7. It's a big major figure fan. It's 70, y'all. And it's 12 points.  That's like saying is 70, y'all.  That's enough.  He knew their worth.  Thank you. Thank you.  And he gave me a change. Shit, you gotta look why would Jay-Z come looking for us? You got to be somebody. He'd have been like this. I got me a rock chain.  I know. Rock. I listen to you. And you would have carried Dame bag. You might still get you a rock chain, Wildo. Right. They still giving them Jones out. Look at you. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm sure. I still got some spit under my belt. OK. Let me ask y'all a question. What's the top five cities in hip hop? Philadelphia. You're the lawsuit. Philadelphia is a top city in music period. And it's not something I'm going to debate about. I know the facts.  But every year, every generation, we've been like in music period. It's New York or Atlanta number one. New York over Atlanta. Right now, Atlanta probably over New York. Atlanta over New York right now. No, we just talking about in the history. We talking about the stat. Sistically, you talking about the top five hip hop cities. You can't do that. And before we get into this, these top. You can't forget that Atlanta has been running for a minute. The South has been running hip hop since 2000.  And let me talk about ExpressVPN. Listen, ExpressVPN is something that you need to get as a service. Listen, they protect your privacy. Listen, hide your IP address. Anything you could choose from over 100 different countries, the channels, they got Netflix, they got Hulu, they got BBC, I play, they got YouTube. 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All right, can I, I'm gonna say New York. I'm gonna say. Okay, but it's a, okay, so hip hop.  I'm not out in LA. I'm asking you a question. Hip hop started in what, 19 what? I don't know the answer. 78. Okay, just say it started in 76. That's just to be just, okay, cool. New York had it. For sure. So that's 86, 96, but the self had it for 20 years, man. So it's kind of about even. You mean, you're not saying the South had it entirely on smash, like it came out. You saying, you can't say, we talking about the city, man. We not talking about the whole South. All right, we talking about Atlanta, all right. You're not saying that they had it in its entirety for 20 straight, like, come on, don't do that. Yes.  Ludacris. It's been spuds with okay, the West Coast is hot, but the South still had it. The West Coast ain't had it for a long time. A long time. You know what I'm saying? It's been a while. No, I can't even, honestly, dawg. I don't know. It's been a long time. Because the West Coast have they spurts. You feel what I'm saying? What's the last part? DJ muster. The game? DJ muster. Oh, I don't know. No, no, no, I'm gonna just say this. I'm gonna just say this. Kendrick Lamar. L.A. L.A. Listen, listen. Kendrick Lamar, one of the best top artists in the game. I mean, I like he is, but then he rep words like he has L.A. on his back, just him. No, I don't think L.A. is the West Coast on the map like that. L.A. Loan to me. L.A., you gotta think about this. L.A. got the chronic. He got all eyes on me. He got niggas for life. He got straight out of Compton. He got America's most wanted. They got, L.A. got some of the most classic.  That's what I'm talking about. Doggy stuff.  Yes, they do. And then you go to New York, right?  Yeah, because, okay. L.A.'s stat, the whole death row. Yeah. And that's 93. New York, you could say the whole bad boy. They got bad boy. They got Biggie. They got mob deep. It's niggas alive right now. They got Lil Tim. They got JZ. They have rough riders. Oh, they stat. Just say the labels, rough riders. Murder, Inc. Motherfucking, you got 50 in them. Listen, G-U-D. Come on, man.  Right.  So you gotta say New York first. Okay, but then you could go to down south too. Let's not forget. New York, L.A. Atlanta? Wait, hold on. Atlanta got T.I., GZ. Gucci man. Oh, before you say even one of them, say the dungeon friends. Say out guys, please. Wait, I'm going to get to that. Slow down. Fuck, you talk about niggas.     No, GZ, Gucci, like that. GZ. Dungeon family. Gucci. Goodie mop. Dungeon family. Jermaine DePri. Monica. Motherfucking, uh. Thug. Young thug. Young thug. Shout out the young thug. I love you, boy. You like QC? I'm alive. Hold on. Who else? Come on. No, no, they got QC. I said Q, that's a lie. Yeah, but who else though? Yeah, they keep going. Don't forget about Ludacris.  Hold on, can I say something? Ludacris. And I'm not taking nothing. Lujan. Lujan. He created a whole like thing. Everybody you say, I respect.  But this is in your words. It's a lot of them now. It's a little different from back then. Motherfuckers was selling real physical copies. Like real records. Like holding them. Right. Listen, Murder, Ink, Rough Riders, Biggie, Bad Boy, no, the motherfuckers, Rocker, Phillip. Them niggas were selling records, man. So hold on. GZ Platinum, Tiff Platinum. I'm not saying they're goody mob Platinum. Monica Platinum. When you talk about it, you gotta think about influence. Right. Like, right. It's niggas from Detroit rap like they from Atlanta. Niggas from Philly rap like they from Atlanta.  Niggas not out here. No, no, but hold up, hold up. Can I say this? Can I say this? We not even talk about one of the young niggas. But can I say this though? Atlanta. Old niggas. Listen, but what the young, she's saying like. I'm not even talking about the young niggas. That's not even half them niggas. They ain't had the internet like they did now. You saying influence. That's why everybody can get a good sound. Sound like Chicago or sound like I'm from here. Because they ain't had it. They got the, they got the advantage with that, the influence more. Think about that. The influence more. Like if you ain't see a do, if you ain't see a do from Chicago, if the internet don't come. You don't see chief. You don't see these dudes. You don't see the whole manner and the way they, they move the way they roll again. Swing the gun in the videos.  Right. But you're going to try to say. Atlanta come before New York. I'm not saying that. Please. I'm just, I'm just, but what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is this. Your influences to me is everything. Because Michael Jordan is the greatest player of all time because he had the most dominant influence.  These kids won Jordans and never even seen the nigga play wild. That's influence. You got 40% of the niggas in Philadelphia right now. Right now.  That's the fact. That's the fact. They even do Atlanta niggas ad libs, skirt, that's the fact. That way. I mean that's what Uzi did. No, no, no, no. Uzi blew coming out of Atlanta. It's different. But let me ask you a question. It's different. He didn't blow coming out of Philly. He blew coming out of Atlanta. He was in the mix down there. But let me ask you this though. Don't you think? How many young cats got a rap like that?  No, that ain't the truth. Who pay? But okay. Griselda gang. They won in a million. No, they not one in a million.  I'm just telling you. Well, all right. I'm just saying this. Okay. I'm from Philly, but I listen to Lil Baby. Where are they from? So now I'm going to start rapping like Lil Baby. No, that's where Lil Baby's from. That's that's his culture. It's not my culture. So if I'm trying to represent his culture, that's not even where I'm from.  But that's all they know. That's all they listen to. That's what they growing up. Where are they from? Griselda gang. But you got to understand. You got to understand. Griselda gang. If I'm a young, if I'm a young, if I'm a 17, if I'm an 18 year old girl, let's make her grow. I'm a 19 year old girl and I listen to young baby. I listen to Lil Baby. I like his slang. I like the way he talk. I like it's things that I like about him that makes his music and him all go together. You feel what I'm saying? But look in Philadelphia right now, right? And tell me one artist that's popping and don't sound like a Philly artist. Ain't rapping. Tell me because all the artists that I know, they got a little buzz for themselves and that's on the way up. It's all rapping. KP out of West Philly, 80,000 followers, Leif Ward, O.T. The Real.  I'm gonna hit the scale.  It's between us. I don't kiss and tell. I've been in it. He run it. Drew boy, Drew boy. And all the niggas that's running around here like this.  No, them niggas don't get paid.  We grew up listening to Gilly, Meek Millie, Big Willie. I grew up listening to Schoolie D. And nigga, you grew up listening to me. Nick, I was your favorite rapper, nigga. No, that's not what I was trying to rap like me. That's why you ain't got a ball in you. No, that's not what I was trying to rap like me. While I'm new, still have it. I got a little spit on me in there. Whenever you're ready, I'm ready. Whenever you're ready, I'm ready.  I'm really ready. Like ready, ready. Whenever you're ready. You keep talking about you or you. I'm almost mad. I don't remember. You heard me rap. You don't want that. You want the mixtape back in the day, major figure mixtapes? I was on the first stuff. Come on, dawg. The smack battle. The smack type battle. Well, I smack you. I know them tapes like from my, I don't remember while I was rapping. I'm sorry. I don't know how I miss that.  All right, so the top five cities in hip hop. Atlanta. New York. We get New York number one because they end up.  Is it Atlanta or is it L.A.? Atlanta before L.A.? What about you? Philadelphia. What's wrong with y'all? Houston's on the list in Philadelphia. Listen. Oh, yeah, you're right. You got Kendrick. You got Tupac. You got Ice Cube. You got motherfucking M.C.A. All right. You said one nigga from right now. New York is one. L.A.? If we count L.A., we count that whole, because you said the south. We count the whole California. Can we count the whole California? We count the whole California. Definitely. No, no. You can't count the whole California. We just want to get the Bay Area. Just cities. The Bay has its own thing. Yeah, we got its own thing. The Bay has its own thing. They don't consider themselves L.A. niggas. At all. I know. I know. Okay. So we going New York, Atlanta, L.A. Or you could switch it either way. All right. Let's get them three. It don't matter. Them three. What's number four? Houston. Philadelphia.    A ball, MGG, Scarface. Pimp C. Swive House was out there. Swive House. DJ Scrooge. You got Slim Stubb.  No key key, poor boy. Bun B. Bun B. No, but Bun B and them was going to put out there. It was the same. No matter. Put them there. Texas niggas. I'm just saying hold up. Now go to Philly. You got Gilly. Stop saying you're nuts. Please stop putting it in there.  I was black ball. I was one black ball. I'll be bigger than James. Niggas.  I got Philly. You got Meek Millie. You got Big Willie. You got Schoolie D. You got Cool C. You got EST. You got Major Figures. You got State Property. You got Jill Scott. You got Music. You got the Roots. You got Jasmine Sullivan. You got Boys the Men. You got Teddy Pendergrass. You got Patty LeBell.  We number four nigga. Philly is in there. We in there nigga.  We in there nigga. Philly is on the list.  So Philly number four and Houston number five. I don't think it should be in any particular order. Chicago is not on the list. Wait, Chicago got some more fuckers.  Did you kid me? Chicago is not on the list. She don't know what she's talking about. Of the top five cities. Why? Why? Drill. Drill music. You got Common. You got Kanye. You got Twister. We talk just because it's niggas from the city that could rap. Don't mean they're one of the top five cities. You know, come on now. No, not Chicago. Drill what?   People joined gangs when Chief Keith came out.    They definitely was in the video thinking they from Chicago. Young niggas look up to Chief Keith. So we're gonna go six.  We're gonna go, we're gonna go, we're gonna go New York. We're going, what about DC? I feel like we're forgetting somewhere. Everybody's watching this. DC's now on the list. Please put your list on there. DC's now on the list. Miami. Miami. I love you DC.  Miami. Miami's now on the list. Treating them. This is, that's just ridiculous. Ricking them from down there. What about New Orleans? Oh yeah. Now what about New Orleans? Yeah, we tripping.  New Orleans. Because you had the whole cash money. You had the whole no limit. Man, that's about it. New Orleans now on the list.   That's not even the same thing. You can't put them together. So that's it.  No, no. You're right.  And I wanted the cash money chain or a no limit chain in New York. I wanted I wanted a rough riders, a murder ain't or anybody. Anybody. Anybody wouldn't get while or a chain of dog tag. Please. They got a brand new being chain. Come on. No one to the chain. Hey, what y'all think the effects of the corona virus going to be? Hold up before we get into that, right? Before we get into the effects of the corona rivals right now during this corona time. Everybody to all you e-commerce sellers, everybody on it is selling things and moving and grooving. I think y'all really need to tap into shipstation.com. The ship station, what they do is they give you a free 60 days. One thing about ship station, just a few clicks and you'll be managing your orders. Click on the mic at the top of the page and type in game. G A M E, right? You'll get a 60 day. I'm talking a 60 day free. 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You know Ronnie Romance. He just comes with his romance. He ain't, you know, no grocery. He's just laying pipe.  Do you have any girlfriends that's got Ronnie Romance in the crib right now?   That's not right.  You get to stay and eat the food snacks. Plus that nigga probably got a stimulus. I would hope you got some of that. I think after the coronavirus, I must speak from a street perspective. I think after the coronavirus is up, I think it's going to be the crime rate is going to go through the roof. Do you think so? Yes, because just if you went in streets and you were hustling, most motherfucking hustlers didn't plan for the coronavirus. For sure. Let's be for real. Pray for the boosters. So now, if they had a little bit of money saved up, that's gone.  When the coronavirus is over, niggas re-up money is going to disappear. But did your money really slow down? Because niggas still getting high on quarantine. All right. I'm trying to tell you. I'm just saying. Listen, a lot of motherfuckers is not doing it.  Niggas is spending more money right now and not making no money. That's the bottom line. They spending more money than they making.  Where they spending money? Groceries.  Weed. Weed. Shit. Not much money. I don't spend money on weed.  Sober? Like, come on. But the bottom line is, the bottom line is, the bottom line is there ain't no money coming in because you see DJs DJing from home with cash apps on the bottom of the page. Is it wrong to put cash apps at the bottom of the page? No.   I'm this close. Yeah.  How many girlfriends you got? I got, I know a few. And they doing well. Like, what type of money they making?  What's good money?  I'm this close. Okay.  Listen, you have to subscribe, Gil. That's what I'm going to tell you. Like, I'm going to tell everybody else. I'm going to have to subscribe to see. In order to subscribe. In order to subscribe. And you got to get out there. Oh, no, you ain't. You ain't been on the micro page. Nah. You stuck a Heineken bottle on that. Hey, listen. Listen. Let me ask you a question though. How many hot list? This fucking. So you saying only fans. You saying only fans is saving people out here? I'm saying that people got created. Only fans are saving lives. You figure Boosie was going live. They got the website. Now you can go see the strippers on the website. You don't have to worry about the live. I mean, people getting creative because the people like that are effective entertainers strippers bartender security guard. There's no work for you. There's nothing going on.   So what'd be going on? Only fans. I never subscribed to only fans. Do they be up?  I know you subscribed about four. No, I don't know that. What do you think about your only fan subscriptions?  Like clean up. Let's show them how you clean. Only girls, only chicks. No, no, no, no. You don't need fans. There's gonna be men looking at y'all. It's men that watch this podcast right now to see y'all right now.  Both of y'all for sure. Y'all handsome. I'm sure it's gay niggas that watch this drawing to y'all. I'm pretty sure it's niggas that's like wild love. No, he's here. Oh my goodness. Let's be real. Who cares? Samarations. Wild love. See, I don't really gilly. He too. Gilly talked to my shit, but wild love is wild love for me. Wild love could definitely run in my bed room. My bed room would do one of them videos. It is just like that. Get up, Anton. You still sleep. Wake up. I'm here for you. Why is you still sleeping, Anton? Why is he still sleeping? He had down low thugs. They look at him like all that tough shitty talk. We don't mind the gays watching. We love y'all. Y'all fine. Y'all can watch us. We just know they probably ain't looking at me. They looking at low. Y'all mean skin all glowing.   You look at him. He got that glow. Look, you do got that. You got that rainbow glow. You do got that locked up. You can't tell your age type of glow, Wallo. You do got that rainbow glow. Wallo, you know that though. You got that green hearts, purple diamonds, purple horseshoes.  No, what's that cereal? Lucky Charms. Lucky Charms glow. Wow. You got that. You got that lucky. You got that lucky Charms. No. People that aren't jealous. You see, okay.  No, Gilly. If April went with Wallo, I would have scooted Wallo up because, yeah, I mean, a nigga did come on my page when I didn't want to tell you. He did. A nigga came right on my page. You know, I don't judge. You know, I don't judge. I talk to everybody on my page. He came right on my page. He was like, I was locked up with Wallo. I used to give him the eyes, but... No, he lied.  I'm telling you what he said on my live. You can go back and Google the lies. I used to give Wallo the eyes from the bottom tier. He said, because, you know, he said, but he used to be so in the Ricky Menage and he ain't paid me no mind. I said, oh, all right. You lying on me, man. Yeah, but listen, let's keep it real though.  Because niggas is going to be on angles, man. Niggas is going to be on angles out there.  I give you a lot of game. If you in the streets after this corona over, all right, be in the streets if you want. You know what you're going to be smelling? Smoke, because the nigga going to take that pack and run off for me. I'm trying to tell you.  If you in the street game right now, you should be getting fire insurance. Fire insurance.    It is done. That is called the get back. That first pack is called the get back.  Smell that. Get up and get back. That first pack is called the get back. What about these stimulus checks? Where's mine? Like, let me ask you a question.  You get $1,200, right? You're supposed to get $1,200 and $500 per child.  But you can still apply for your stimulus. And you'll get it. And you can use your cash app card if you're that trifle because you don't have a bank account. They said, motherfuckers, they said that $1,200 hit nigga's accounts. Shout out to DJ T for that. That's what's up.   But he's a real hip hop. Like he cuss.  Donald J. Trump. He's a DJ T. DJ T. Yeah. I mean, he's pretty fucking... I thought that was a nigga from Delaware.   He wants to check, stop and remade because he went his face on it. That's your question. Did you smoke a mile today? Of course. Started my day with a long blacking mile. I enjoyed it. Was it the wood tip? The smooth tobacco. Was it the wood tip? No, only plastic. Oh, plastic.  You niggas in my DM either. They be in your DM since...  What are they saying in your DM?  They call you the queen of the mile? No, but I got a lot of Schmedium dicks. I already told you all about that.   It's just shitty. Like I thought it was going to be like rappers and football players. It's not.   Like, seriously. And I post them. Let me ask you a question. It's a gamble, motherfucker. Let me ask you a question.  Let me ask you a question.  Is he corny? Let me explain it.   Let's say it's 947.  I'm at the pediatrician with Smush. You ever...  I'm talking dirty.     No. If I say...    So what are you lining this up?  Why would you take a picture of your dick? Because I asked you to. No. Come on. So women do women like... That's great.  No. All right. Well, that's fair exchange. Let me just say this. So what about... Let's fair exchange then. What about phone sex? You have phone sex? Come on. Of course. Face time sex.  Quarantine.  You got to go to the bathroom. Cut the water on so you can go on your side. They got to turn the face time up. It's a joke. It's a joke for cheaters. What you be doing on that? Not me. Gilly, what? What you be doing on that? You have to subscribe to my OnlyFans to see stuff like that. You don't got an OnlyFans. It's coming. Give me a second. What's your name going to be on OnlyFans?  I ain't hiding nothing.  We know y'all on there. I'm not doing that.  I'm going to tell my aunt on Facebook, don't hit this link. Don't hit this link. I'm sharing. How do you change your name to Queen of the Mouth? Because my name is Don't Call Me White Girl. How much you charge her? You know people have different prices and stuff. I don't know where we can start. $49.99.    You got the pay fat.  You never know. Subscribe. I'm going to look at you different. Use a different name. What you going to do? Don't be acting funny though once I come back in here. A cable remote? Now you're thinking. Now you're thinking I'm giving you a only 50. What am I supposed to do? You're fitting your choppers. Wow, Gil. Like wow. Really? Because you said a cable remote. That's a big new motherfucking Comcast remote.  How many what? She may don't have Comcast. Oh, what you got a flash stick? I thought it was a flash stick.   Everybody getting them stimulus checks.  For sure.  Did y'all get y'all stimulus checks? No. I didn't get modified. I would have been excited. I don't understand. I'm looking for mine. The whole thing is like what did you spend it how much did it get? 1200. You got a stack.  This motherfucker's claiming niggas kids. I know bitches got 3500. Seriously. People got hit. I know some people that had children that just got flat 1200 because at the end of the day it's Donald Trump is sloppy. You know what I mean? But you just said his name was DJT. Like he on the wheels of stills. Listen, he's a bum and he doesn't do anything right. So this ain't being done right. That's why you need to apply for that money. Don't think you're not going to get it. People just damn. Let's get to me. Hey, listen, this is what I want to talk about. I mean, I was worth a game, right? So all the people out there that's in relationships, whether you the show show your boyfriend, your girlfriend, your wife, your husband, your partner, whatever you want to call. Stop letting people that's not in your relationship.  What you mean? What you mean? What I mean?  That's hard.   You got to go home.  I could run you away from a nigga. That's what up. But what I'm saying is a lot of a lot of relationships.  It's already. Yeah.  Why they got so much power?  No, no, no, not all the time. Almost all the time.  Why? She was running him from the door before he left. So now I feel a attack.  I'm gonna make your life miserable. Like either you gonna let me see my child or you not. I'm gonna take the proper procedures to see my child. That's not a question.   I don't want no more.    Why you, why you mad at me?  I feel like a lot of them are not honest.   She's from the project. She's one of her asses a while. If you stay down it might blow over. Niggas don't do that.  You don't know what the fuck's going on.  I'm not even bringing you around.    But listen, so now I take it into the bus name.  You know, people put socks over the phone.  So I slide up in the drone and I get on the last phone in Dallas on J block. Anybody that was up Dallas, penitentiary, Pennsylvania on J block. They remember the shower, the old shower room, they turn it to the phone room. So they got three slots you could use. I go to the back slot, lean this way. So, so the door is right there. So I lean, be talking to it. Yeah, what's up? Have my joints not operate my piece. So you get on there. Oh my God. I'm like, you playing with it? Yeah. I'm ready to put that thing in you. So you rubbed one out at the phone. You did. From the rip. Ah, all the ball in my pants.  I've never heard of that and no prison story in my life. Why are you crazy? It was me squeezing on the phone. Nobody rubs one out the phone. You are different.  You rubbed one out in a day room situation. Party pants. You go up and say why? They don't party pants.  You got party pants. You rubbed one out in a common area. You know what I mean, dude? Listen, in a common area. I'm not the first boy to dig his body. You're wrong. You're out of pocket. You're out of pocket. It's three phones in the room. In jail, the proper place to rub one out is the shower. It puts the individual shower in your bunk. Everybody's in the shower. I had to be at individual showers. You rubbed one out in the shower. And the penitentiary is 50 people in the room. That's some decency, Wildo. That's disgusting. These are my socks on the phone. Yeah, because the phones are coming. Some are Dallas. No, no, no, they ain't coming. That was Dallas the pink palace. I'll be from here. Dallas, listen to me. Listen, you be from here. I'll be from here, right? You be from here, right?  So now on the jacket hand. He thinking that's your arm, but you're whacking him. Your jacket hanging. Your other joints are you shaking the dice. Innovative. Innovative. Yeah, could you just hear Mona on the phone? Everybody come. You come at the phone, you. No, she's, she's. I'm saying you, though. No, you listen to me. So then you come all out. Do you finish at the phone? Come on on your pants.    You're free. So listen, did you, I'll never look at him the same. The handshakes is not going to be the same now. Come on, man. You walk through with a sticky hand through a common area with other men. Oh my.   You can't walk.  I've never crossed no line like that. Talk with the bullshit, man. Like, you ain't. I appreciate your transparency.  This is chicken and diced.  So then you walked all the way back to your cell. You get jerked off on the visit, cuz. It's the same thing. You walked all the way back to the cell. That's different. She got to come to her hand. Right, you walked all the way back to the cell with a hard joint with some jail joints on it.   No, no, I was calmed down. Oh my gosh. You used that there with the come on your hand and talk for another 10 minutes. That's chicken and wow. Let's just back off. I ain't gonna do that, bro.  Yeah, this got kinky. No more stories from the cell at the back. I might gotta put this on my only fence this episode. No, but I guarantee you a lot of dudes is watching this that was a steamy one. They didn't got off on the phone before. Wild on the phone. No, it's no doubt about my mind. I've never heard that and I disagree. Your dad got off on the phone. Cool. He was mad at me because I talked to him on the phone.  My father and Gileague, I get one off too.   Hopefully it'll be off of quarantine. We can't fight you at the quarantine, Gil. All right. Well, listen, I appreciate y'all for tapping in, right?  I got a pop. Listen, I got a pop. My money's on my pop. My money's on my pop.  My money's on my pop. Your age, nigga. Did he work out up there? Your age, nigga.  And y'all the same height. What's up? Y'all the same height, same age. Let's go.  Stand me on the stop. You don't call me.  If he tackle you, I don't want to hear nothing. He tackle you. He's all box work.  All right, well, listen, man, we ready to get up out of here, man. Hey, listen.  Yeah, all right. This is me and I's River Game. We appreciate y'all for tuning in each and every week, making us the number one music podcast in the country.  See, see.  Come on. I go by the name of Gileague the King.   Pray for my weed.  I'm so happy to be here though.   Come here. I can't believe that.  That was just wild. Like, how do we end that? Like, how do you wrap that up? I came to my hand and walked through a common area of men upstate prison. Killers were coming my hand, walking through.  It didn't get that me.   I didn't shoot right to the cell. Get out of here. And it's just like that. Right!


Other than getting enough sleep, what can we do to improve the glumphatic clearance of waste from our brains? The provision of a running wheel, so mice could voluntarily exercise, has been shown to improve glumphatic clearance in aging mice, which was accompanied by a reduced build-up of amyloid deposits and improved cognition. Sleeping position may also make a difference. Studies on rats show that their natural sleeping position curled up on their sides allows for better glumphatic transport than sleeping on their backs or stomachs. People also tend to spend most of their time sleeping on their side, particularly their right side versus left, compared to their backs or stomachs. This may maximize blood outflow from the brain. When we sleep on our right side, our right internal jugular vein, the main blood vessel in our neck draining blood from the head, is wide open. And our left jugular is partially collapsed, and vice versa. Since most people have a dominant right jugular vein, sleeping on their right side might maximize brain drainage. Does it matter? Well, people with neurodegenerative disease, mostly mild cognitive and permanent, Alzheimer's disease, tend to sleep more on their backs than those with normal cognition. About 72% spend at least two hours a night on their backs, compared to 37% of those with healthier brains, raising the intriguing possibility that head position during sleep could influence the clearing of neurotoxic proteins from the brain. In crib death, sudden infant death syndrome, sleeping position can be a lifesaver, leading to slogans like back to sleep, or more morbidly, face up to wake up. It's premature for an adult jingle, maybe on your flank to not draw a blank. The characteristic position of poor sleepers is on their back though, so maybe it's the poor sleeping rather than the position per se that leads to cognitive decline, or the causality could be reversed with dementia-deteriorating good sleep habits. Even if sleeping position did matter, it may take a night in a sleep lab to track your movements. It turns out self-reported sleep positions are often false. Should brain benefits to side sleeping ever be established, you can train yourself with so-called positional therapies, such as the tennis ball technique, which involves wearing a shirt to bed backwards with a ball stuffed in the chest pocket. The uncertainties don't end with sleeping position. The glimphatic mechanism itself was rapidly embraced in scientific circles and the popular press. However, it's been controversial. It wasn't until 2019 that the first evidence was published that the glimphatic system discovered in rodents even existed in human brains. Even the relationship between sleep and Alzheimer's disease is perhaps best summed up in a recent neurology review entitled It's Complicated. Yes, those getting less than 7 hours of sleep may have higher rates of Alzheimer's, but those getting more than 8 are at higher risk, too. If anything, population studies show that longer sleep durations, more than 8 or 9 hours, are more strongly linked to Alzheimer's disease and dementia in general than sleeping less than 5 or 6 hours. The association between dementia and long sleep duration could be reverse causation, where prodromal changes in the brain years before Alzheimer's is diagnosed causes prolonged sleep. Long sleep duration may also just be a confounding factor, a marker of some underlying health problem that's the real culprit. For example, oversleeping may be a sign of depression, which itself is an established risk factor for dementia. But there is a plausible biological mechanism for how extended sleep duration could increase dementia risk directly. Longer sleep duration, typically defined as sleeping more than 8 hours a night, is associated with signs of systemic inflammation, elevated levels of C-reactive protein and into lukin 6. And both of those inflammatory markers, in turn, are associated with an increase in dementia risk. So much more needs to be teased out about the role of the glymphatic system before we make conscious efforts to tweak it.


how we hard coded the numbers so they don't change because of that random number generation tool. Okay, so now we can count the frequency of these items and we can do our standard kind of frequency type of, type of, let's do it this way, where we would say, okay, here's our bends. So these are representing the minutes between arrivals now. So we've got zero, you know, if I look, if I look at these numbers, what's the count that we have zero minutes on up to the 40 minutes between the arrival times? And note that you can't really use a count if function to do this because these numbers over here are now not whole numbers. So we have to use the frequency which are gonna give us the bends. So here's our fancy frequency which we're just gonna take the data array over here and then we're gonna say the bends which are over here. That's gonna be our array function that'll give us the frequency and then it'll put these items into our buckets. So in this case then we have the number one. So one minute, how many times did we have the one minute and in our data set on this side, 51 times, two minutes or up to and including two minutes. We had 30 of those, three minutes, 31, four minutes, 19, five minutes, 20, six minutes, 18, seven minutes, 14, eight minutes, 14, nine minutes, 18, 10 minutes. And you could see it starts to go down as we get up to those higher numbers. So there was a lot of them, you could see that are on the lower side. So the time between arrivals, we tend to have a bunch that are on the shorter side when things are following this exponential distribution and then we've got a few that take a lot longer in the intrams and that is how you can kind of imagine what's happening with our curve. So then we're gonna say, okay, I can also represent this in terms of a percent of the total. So these frequency bins, if I add them up, should add up to the number of counts that we did over here, the number of customers that we looked at and saw the intram time, which was 300, so that looks correct. And so I can divide each of these then by the total of 300. So 51 over 300, oops, hold on a second. 51 over 300 gives us the point, gives us the point one seven or 17%. So we can represent this as a percent then as well, which is what it's gonna be represented as when we do the actual exponential distribution. And so that's showing that calculation. Okay, so then I can do it this way. X equals the arrivals during one minute and let's this time use our actual exponent dot dist. So now I'm gonna do the same thing, not using our randomly generated numbers, which represent us actually going out there with a stopwatch, but now we're just gonna do the smooth curve using our exponent dot dist, where I'm just gonna take the X here, we're gonna take the lambda, and then we're gonna take the cumulative, it's not gonna be cumulative, so we put a zero. So now we're gonna plot this out with our actual curve, which is similar, notice it's giving us, it's giving us the percentages, right? Because when I use this curve, I'm not gonna get an actual frequency because we're looking at the percentages. So then I'd have to, if I looked at this one, what's the likelihood that we have the one minute, and then if I did it 300 times, you would think the 300 times the point one, four, one, one would be the actual frequency of it. So that's why you need the percent that we have so we can compare over there. And so this is what we get when we get the smooth curve or the curve generated from our function, right? And you can compare these out. So if this is the one, this is versus one, two, and two, three, and three, four, and four, five, and five. And so you could see there's somewhat similar. And so if I was to plot this out, this is the enter arrival times from our actual data set plotting this out in a histogram, which looks like this. And you can see it kind of, it's approximating the shape that we would expect. It's not perfect, of course, because we didn't generate, we only generated 300 numbers. Here it is with another type of graph. And then if I looked at it in comparison to the actual curve, which is the blue curve in this case, so the blue curve is a nice smooth curve compared to the random generated curve, we can see that it approximates what we would expect from the exponential distribution. So the general idea with these line waiting situations is like, why does that happen? And you could see why it kind of happens here is because you've got these, the times are often short, the intervals are often short, but then you have some of those intervals that are the long intervals, right? And that's what's given that characteristic type of shape, which often happens in these line waiting situations. So if you were in a, so if you saw the Poisson distribution in a line waiting situation, then again, oftentimes you would think that if you took the exponential, the time between, that it would follow, you know, this kind of exponential characteristic shape as well.


Thank you. Thank you for the introduction So this talk is on type proof of space and I'll explain what those are So first a proof of space is an alternative to proof of work where the resource being used as space instead of computational Energy so it should require the prover Who's producing this proof to use Significant space and has all the same applications as proof of work including applications to spam prevention or mitigating denial of service attacks and most famously to civil resistance in consensus networks like Bitcoin the advantage of a proof of space is that it Spaces a reusable resource so producing a new proof of space can reuse the same space Unlike a proof of work which requires consuming new energy So it's proposed as a more eco-friendly way of getting a system like Bitcoin So what is a proof of space look like it's an interactive protocol between a prover and a verifier where the prover is Allowed to choose the amount of space that it commits to store it sends a commitment to the verifier The verifier sends a challenge and the prover produces a proof that should convince the verifier that it is using almost all the storage that it claims to be using As efficiency requirements though you require the proof and the commitment to be much smaller than the storage that the prover claims to have So the overall communication should be much smaller than the storage and The verifier should also run efficiently So if N say is the amount of storage the prover claims to be using then the verifier should run in polylog and time There's also a non interactive Version of proof of space or any proof of space protocol since by definition Is public coin the fiat chemo heuristic can be applied in order to Get a non interactive version where the challenge is derived as a hash of the prover's commitment So in the literature on proof of space there's a differentiation though between two types of proof of space The one which I just described may only convince the verifier that the prover is using a lot of space in order to produce the proof But it may not be required to persistently use space over time so a proof of persistent space is one where the prover demonstrates that it continuously uses space over time and This is divided into two phases one which is an initialization protocol that looks much like the one I just described it can be either interactive or non interactive and then the prover enters an online phase where it fields challenges from the verifier and Computes responses that should convince the verifier that it is still storing a a lot of space But rather than it continuously rerunning the initialization the online phase is seen as a separate phase because it Can be much more efficient for the for the prover to do the initialization phase could require the prover to do a lot of work Now notice something Regarding you know the efficiency of initialization versus the online phase if the prover could just rerun the initialization to respond to the online challenges then Clearly this wouldn't work as a proof of persistent space the prover could delete its space after each challenge and then redo the initialization in order to respond to challenges so in the way that we define this is by restricting the time that the prover has to respond to challenges and in particular the Time that the prover has to respond to these challenges Should be much shorter than the time it takes for it to run the initialization So how tight is a proof of space? That's the principal question that this paper explores In other words, how much space can some adversarial prover save and still pass the protocol? could it pass the protocol with only one minus epsilon gigabytes if it claims to be using a gigabyte and For a tight proof of space the answer should be no for one minus epsilon as close to one as possible in other words A smaller epsilon gives you a tighter proof of space So we can define epsilon tightness as saying that if the online trooper stores less than one minus epsilon gigabytes Then it should fail with overwhelming probability to respond within some time limit t T is typically set to be proportional to the storage size a weaker way of defining Proof of space security would allow for a time-space trade-off in this definition even a parallel secure parallel prover who uses a lot of Parallelism in order to speed up Its response time to get it smaller than t should fail Whereas we could allow for a time-space trade-off where the prover should simply have to do a lot of computational work if it chooses not to use that much space persistently so in in in this work I define a tight proof of space as One which can be tuned to be arbitrarily tight So the protocol parameters could be tuned for any epsilon less than one so that it is epsilon tight as just defined the problem is that While tuning the parameters to to be a tighter proof of space for smaller epsilon that may also impact the efficiency And so we'd like to maintain efficiency and so the efficiency goal is to keep the proof size or communication and The increase in computation proportional to one over epsilon as epsilon gets smaller Intuitively the reason why it seems that one over epsilon is sort of the best we can do is that the the way that at least the information theoretic versions of the online challenges work the the prover is has to store some string of large size and the And if it for if it forgets too much of that string then the verifiers challenges will sort of catch it on On the errors that it made or the parts of the space that it forgot So if it only for if it only forgot one percent of the space Then the probability that the verifiers challenges will locate will be in that area of space You know is only good enough if the number of challenges is close to one over is you know order of one over epsilon Or lambda over epsilon so in this work we get epsilon tightness with Proof size which is seemingly close to optimal or order of log in over epsilon So what was the state of the art before this work will proofs of space were first introduced in 2015 and That construction had one minus epsilon less than one over one over five hundred twelve which Would mean that the there could be an adversary who uses only a five twelve fraction of the data Now note that these numbers don't indicate that there is actually an attack that achieves that but just gaps in the analysis Ren and DeVatos improved this in 2016 and made one over epsilon closer to one half okay, and construction from 2017 was a different type of proof of space, but it wasn't tight and Then in 2018 we had the first tight proof of space Although unfortunately in that construction the proof size increases proportional to log in over epsilon squared So it which is which makes a big difference for for efficiency. Let's say epsilon is you know one over a hundred And furthermore that construction used these very special types of depth robust graphs Which we don't have practical instantiations of we have asymptotic constructions But even heuristically we haven't really been able to demonstrate that it has this property so Why do tight proof of space matter? Well one can get better provable security for proof of space just like in any The goals of any tight security exercise We would like the gap between what the honest Prover has to do and the best possible adversary to be small as Either we have to tune the parameters for the worst possible adversary and make life extremely hard for the honest Provers or We set life to be reasonable for the honest Provers, and then there's some adversary that virtually doesn't have to use any space at all But a second motivation is that it's necessary for this new type of primitive called proof of replication and I won't go into proof of replication in this talk since it's actually extraordinarily tricky to define properly and It would require a lot of time to explain But I will talk about useful proof of space which are very related to proofs of replication And also greatly benefit from tight proof of space, so I'll explain that next so what is a useful proof of space? It's a proof of space where additionally That's a correctness requirement The Prover is able to use its storage to store files of its own interest So it doesn't have to waste the space as it's engaging in the proof of space protocol Cool. I can still use my space to store my movies What is an application well if you think about the application of proof of space to Building blockchains like a Bitcoin alternative One of the things that we're concerned about with blockchains is the so-called blockchain carbon footprint, you know proof of work Based Bitcoin it wastes a lot of energy since all the miners in the system Continuously use a lot of energy to maintain the system and proves a space We said is more eco-friendly because it can reuse the same space So it doesn't waste energy or require more consuming more space You know every minute But it does still doesn't do anything positive and you could say that the the space is still not being used for anything useful so a Useful proof of space would push this even further and have a so to say positive footprint because What the work that the miners are doing to maintain the the Bitcoin like system is can also simultaneously be used for data storage so consider a System where the miners are all mining for the blockchain and and using their space for for useful data storage One of the things that we'd be concerned about is that at some point in time one of the miners finds a cheat that lets it gain a huge advantage in the proof of space protocol and Unfortunately, let's say that that cheat no longer It's different than the honest protocol and so it doesn't necessarily have the same correctness property as the honest protocol It perhaps does not allow this prover to still store data useful data Well lose travels fast and all the other miners catch on and eventually this falls back to just a proof of space blockchain And it's no longer doing useful data storage. So one implication of tight proof of space is That we can you know sleep well or rest assured that nobody will find some adversarial strategy that saves Significantly from deviating from the honest protocol One other thing that we would be concerned about is how efficient is it is to extract data from this useful proof of space So let's say somebody wants to retrieve the movie that the miner is storing If that takes a really long time then that may be undesirable for the application And you can think of it as it being a little bit less useful, but maybe still useful for storing, you know archival backups But unfortunately a caveat of data extraction efficiency is that efficient extraction implies that the proofs of space are not Asynchronously composable, so let me illustrate why that is. Let's say there's a proof of space Miner and the the the prover and the the prover Encodes a data file f in its proof of space and stores this encoding of f as its persistent storage and then after that Initializes another proof of space where the data input which it can choose is The and is the same stores that it needs to pass the other proof of space Protocol so now it can only needs to store the the second doubling coding of f and by the Efficiency of extraction it could efficiently extract f During the online challenges and be able to respond to the challenges for both proofs Pretending to use twice the amount of space, but really only using half that amount. So that would be a problem But we're going to ignore that there are perhaps ways of dealing with that in in applications where there's a stronger Promise on what what what files are being stored by the system. So we'll ignore that for now so let me talk about in the remaining time the construction so The construction of many proofs of space works by labeling a Directed acyclic graph. So what is a graph labeling? we use a collision resistant hash function H and Label each node of the of the DAG with with the data input in this case We can just choose it to be the index of that node The source node is given the label, which is just a hash of its of its index and every other node is given a label which is derived as a hash of its data index and also all Its dependency labels so all the labels on nodes that have an edge to that node and so on and so forth until we label the whole graph and the way the proof of space works or this family of proof of space protocols work are by sending a commitment to the graph labels receiving a challenge, which is a subset of the nodes and Then opening the labels of the nodes In this challenge set and also their parents and the verifier will check that this hash relationship is correct At least on the the challenge indices so it can be shown that for special types of Directed acyclic graphs this gives a proof of space because if the prover forgets too many of the labels it will require doing Sequential work we just heard two talks on proofs of sequential work Require doing sequential work in order to re-derive those labels and respond correctly to the challenge. So let me give you just a Very high-level overview of the construction. I I give in this paper And so don't expect to understand all the details here I just want to give you a road map so that you have in your picture in your mind of what the next Few slides will be on the first step is to build a very weak not tight proof of space just from something called a depth robust graph And the depth of us graph that we require is Simply one where if you look at a very large subset So say on 80 percent of the nodes any 80 percent subset contains a long path directed path and intuitively this gives you a Not tight proof of space because if you for delete like 80 percent of the graph then in order to re-derive nodes any the label on any node within that it will require you to Compute labels along a long path and that requires sequential work the next step is to amplify This to get a tighter proof of space by layering depth robust graphs and adding bipartite expander Edges between the layers and we can show that that gets you a tight proof of space But not one where you can extract data from it efficiently and so the last step is to Make the picture prettier and I Called this local it's called localization as a technique in proof of space where We basically absorb the edges of the bipartite expander graph or project them into the layers We'll have to reverse the edges of the depth of work graph at every layer For reasons I'll get into later. It's in order to maintain The proof of space security, but what it ends up with is a graph structure where each layer can basically encode the labels of the previous layer and Extracting data from this can be done more efficiently So first the first step is this depth robust graph So remember I said a depth robust graph can be defined in in many ways as a very strong Depth of us graph is one where if you delete any constant size subset that constant size subset Maintains depth, but I actually can get we can get away with with using the weakest possible depth of us graph which just requires to be robust in very large subsets and So as I explained before Intuitively this if you just apply the the labeling game to this graph. It gives you a weak proof of space Now what is a bipartite expander graph There's two sets of there's sinks and sources and we say that it's an alpha beta expander if any subset of size alpha and a has It's connected to at least a beta fraction of B. It's said to have beta over alpha expansion So the first construction step two takes copies of a depth of us graph I mark here and read the edges of the depth of us graph. So every layer has a copy of a depth of us graph and Then adds the edges of bipartite expander graphs between them and The labels are derived on the last layer and stored So let me give you some intuition about why this gives you a type proof of space So consider Sort of just a naive attack that stores labels on the last level and forget some of the labels So let's say it forgets deletes the labels in in red Maybe redirving just those labels if we're only one layer would not require sequential work but because of the bipartite expander edges if we look at the dependencies of these labels on labels in previous Levels that are not being stored and would need to be redirived the dependencies expand as you move up in the graph until the dependencies include 80% of some level and since the graph was depth robust in 80% size subgraphs Redirving 80% of any given level requires sequential work And you can use this to encode data Simply by taking the last light layer and x-wearing it with the data file of interest I'm omitting some details on how you would modify the proof, but the main point is that unfortunately this sort of generic way of Using the proof of space to encode data Requires you to redirive Deterministically the labels and so it would be as inefficient to extract data as it is to generate or initialize a proof of space to begin with So the last step is modifying the structure of this graph and what we do is we Project the edges of the expander of the bipartite Expander into Each level and what this does it has the effect of turning each level into a Expander graph is an undirected graph. So it's an undirected expander, but it's a DAG So it's not it's not a you know, it's not actually an expand a graph is and So let and and so before I tell give you the security intuition The reason why this allows you to encode data in a more efficiently extractable way Is that now the dashed edges will be used to derive a label which encodes the same index label on the previous level? So if you look at like c6 it will be derived by hashing the dependencies of c6 in the same level and Using that as a key to encode c1 and simply using x or let's say and And so the the labels on the last level are actually encodings of the labels on the previous on on the first level and Those can simply be data inputs So let me give you intuition of why this still maintains proof of space security and why we need to reverse the edges in each level So again the graph is an expander as an undirected graph So if you look at the targets and dependencies of any given node, okay, that is large and if we go up one level then the targets of this node c14 become dependencies of c9, which is another label that we need to redrive the encoding of c14 and the target the dependencies of C14 become the targets which in turn become dependencies in the next level. So if you bump two levels up Then the dependencies expand just like it did with bipartite Expander graphs and so with roughly double the number of levels you get the same effect of dependencies expanding And this is not approved the analysis has to go through more careful analysis of all the things a prover could do But in the end we only need levels which are proportional to log 1 over epsilon where epsilon is the tightness we want and The extraction is paralyzable because Once you have all the labels on one level you can in parallel rederive the labels on the previous level until you get back the data So thank you. That is the end of this talk Are there any questions? I have a philosophical question about these proofs of space Yes, especially the reusable reusability of the space and the fact that you are having Useful proofs that allow you to continue to store other data. Yes, like your movies So if I'm trying to prove that I have two to the 40 memory Actually, don't have it but Amazon has it. Yeah, if Amazon can continue to store in their databases all the movies that other data that they are storing and They will let me rent the The memory for one second very cheaply because it doesn't cost them any extra and therefore people will be able to Pretend that they have the two to the 40 memory even though they are renting it out So did you think about the economic issues of proofs of space, especially when they are Yeah, yes. No, I I have thought about that and and and other people have Have as well pointed that out in general about any useful form like useful proofs of work as well would have a similar issues It's more that then then Amazon is sort of dominating the the mining of the system But it doesn't the the impact is that you don't have this effect where as in Bitcoin the miners are you know economically committed to Bitcoin is a network because they're invested in it since they need their mining hardware in order and it's not useful for anything else Amazon doesn't really care about Bitcoin continue to store files These would be extremely inefficient for Amazon to run so Maybe we don't want to make them too efficient but But it's an excellent point and there's a philosophical debate about that. Yes. Thank you There was another question here Also related to that property of reusing reusing the proof of space because I'm one because sometimes you would like to prove that you have New space so you so you wouldn't like this property of reusability Actually, so is that because I don't know so I have some proof and then I I'm doing a proof for someone else So I don't want maybe to reuse the same proof. I mean because yeah So reusability doesn't contradict that goal so the point of the proof of space is that it's a proof of persistent space you commit to Storing say a gigabyte of space and you can continuously prove that you're still using that gigabyte if you want to then use more space You can bump that up to two gigabytes by producing an independent proof of space with a different you know protocol identifier and If those compose then you're showing that you have twice amount of space The point is that you can reuse the same resources to continue to produce proofs that you're still using that and the fact that so It looks like in your construction like you have a lot more dependencies in the in the graph Yeah, the graph is basically roughly the same size as previous or the graph The size of the graph is also bigger like twice bigger and also and also the number of edges is bigger So maybe that poses some constraints on the prover. Yeah So the the graph that I have is is considerably bigger than the the data But the proof are only stores the labels on the last level, which is the size of the data But it requires, you know going through several steps of derivation in order to get there Yeah, in fact one advantage I didn't mention about the second construction over the first is that the first construction It because it doesn't have this locality property It requires the prover tonight naively the prover would have to use a buffer of size Twice the data in order to derive the the data storage because it needs to keep around the labels on the previous level in order to derive The next level whereas in the last construction it can once it has the the labels on a given level it can Basically replace them one by one as it's deriving the levels on the next and it only needs to use overall You know end storage in order to derive the last level rather than a buffer of size to yeah Are any any questions? So thank you for your talk I had a question regarding the Interactiveness of the proof in your pictures at least they were all interactive Can they be made non-interactive for the persistent proof of space? That's an interesting question so Classically no, however If you had and I and I an ideal realization of the random beacon one that would Just spit out random numbers at specific time intervals unpredictable random numbers And that could be used to replace the random challenges that come at intervals from the You know from the verifier, but that requires a realization of a random beacon and there's proposals for that But you know requires much stronger assumptions