Welcome to the Dr. Gundry podcast. Well, if you've read any of my books, you know I am no stranger to controversy. In fact, people have been dismissing my work for years now, even as new research has validated many of my observations. And just the other week I apparently stirred up a hornet's nest of controversy when I told friend of the podcast, Lewis Howes, that fruit wasn't always the healthiest choice. Well, today I want to address my critics head-on. On this episode of the Dr. Gundry podcast, you'll learn why an apple a day isn't the best way to keep the doctor away, the best fruits you can and should eat, and why a high fruit diet isn't the best way to help your body heal. We're gonna have a good time with this, and I am more than willing to accept criticism. Let me give you an example. As a young professor at the University of Maryland, having completed a fellowship at the NIH where I invented a method of protecting the heart during heart surgery, by, get this, pumping blood and preservatives backwards through the veins of the heart, which have no valves, and having the cardioplasia solution come out through what are called thebesian veins, think, lesbian like drama. And this was completely opposite to the method that was used, which was to inject these solutions down the coronary arteries, which for the most part were blocked. And I reasoned that, gosh, since veins aren't blocked, we should put these solutions backwards up the veins. And I did a lot of research in animals to prove this, and then did a clinical trial in patients. And I presented as a young man my findings to 10,000 heart surgeons at the annual meeting of the Society of Thoracic Surgeons. And who was selected as my discussant to say I was full of it, then none other than Denton Cooley, who is, was the great, one of the greatest surgeons of all time, heart surgeons of all time. And he got up after my showing my results, and he says, Dr. Gundry would have us believe that we should give the heart an enema, and have that enema come out the lesbian veins. Now, this was long before social acceptance norms. And he got a rousing laugh and applause from 10,000 heart surgeons. But two years later, my technique became the standard for protecting hearts in heart surgery. And to this date, it's still the standard of protecting hearts. Why is that?  And 10% really gets under their skin. He said, why is that? And I said, well, I like to say that I am a challenge to people's balance. Now, what do I mean by that? I mean by that is that conventional wisdom is unfortunately often wrong. And back in the day when Leonard Bailey and I were pioneering infant heart transplantation, it was incredibly controversial. And I actually had an entire talk about conventional wisdom. And I'd like to share, actually, from my memory, a few of the most famous quotes of people who were wrong. And bear with me because it's pretty humorous. How about the president of the Royal Society of Science in England, who declared that rail travel, steam engine, rail train is impossible because once the train gets going faster than a horse, that passengers will suffocate because the air will be sucked out of their lungs. Kissy was wrong about that. The president of the American Cancer Society in 1949 declared that if smoking is a cause of lung cancer, it is certainly an incredibly tiny one. It wasn't until 1964 that the surgeon general actually made the connection between smoking, causing lung cancer. I'm always amazed with the exploits of General George Patton. And George Patton said if everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. Shaggy, the reggae star, sings a song about his mother telling him, if you're the smartest one in the room, you're in the wrong room. Ken Olson, the CEO of Digital Electronics, the forerunner of the personal computer, said, I think there is a maximum need for 50 home computers. Thomas Watson, the chairman of IBM, said there will be a world need for 10 computers. That was IBM. So conventional wisdom is frequently wrong. I'm going to finish this with my inspiration from Carl Sagan. Carl Sagan has said that the purpose of science is to question the status quo, to have the courage to question conventional wisdom. So if you think I question conventional wisdom, you're right. And I don't do it willy-nilly. I don't do it off the cuff. I do it based on my research and based on the research of multiple others. So let's start off with some of the most stinging criticisms and really good comments. So and I'm just reading what was on Instagram or from Twitter. So you say, fructose is bad, but fructose is in lots of food. Why is the fructose in fruit as bad as the fructose in a soda? And do you really think fruit is worse than candy? Well, let's talk about fructose. First of all, I do not think that fruit is bad. Actually, I don't think I have said that fruit is bad if it is appropriately consumed in season and that it's appropriately consumed in tiny amounts. But let me give you just one great example to answer this question. So you guys who are listening can't see it, but I have arranged on a table in front of me. We have a cup of seedless grapes. And for those of you who are watching, there's a cup of seedless grapes. It's about 10, 15 grapes. I have a Hershey's milk chocolate candy bar, 44 grams. It's the standard Hershey's chocolate bar. I have a glazed doughnut and looks absolutely fabulous. And I have an apple. I've mentioned before that this particular apple, which is about the size of a good size naval orange now, is two to three times the size of an apple that I would have eaten as a kid. And one of my biggest arguments against our modern fruit is that it has been bred for sugar content and it has been bred for size. So, for instance, my brother-in-law, who's a cardiologist in Indianapolis, and I both trained at the University of Michigan. And he's a cardiologist. I'm a cardiac surgeon and cardiologist. And one of our favorite tricks for our patients was to hold up the apple and to hold up a glazed doughnut and ask them, which has more sugar? And, of course, every one of our patients and everyone who wrote in on the podcast would say, are you kidding? The glazed doughnut has far more sugar than the apple, when in fact the opposite is true. The glazed doughnut has about half of the sugar content of an apple. Half. And the sugar in the apple is mostly fructose. The sugar in the glazed doughnut is sucrose, which is half glucose and half fructose. So there's actually far less fructose in a doughnut than there is in this apple. By the way, there's far less glucose and fructose and sugar in a glazed doughnut than in a banana. But it's nature's candy, right? You're right. It's nature's candy. So now I'm holding up the cup of grapes and I'm holding up the Hershey's chocolate bar and I'm not advertising Hershey's. The cup of grapes actually has two times the sugar content of this Hershey's candy bar. And it's mostly fructose and there's virtually no fructose in the Hershey's candy bar. Plus the Hershey's candy bar is mostly fat, which slows down digestion. And the way grapes have been bred, there's actually very little fiber in modern grapes that could slow down digestion. Plus grapes used to have seeds in them. And the benefits of grapes are actually in the peel and the seeds. And I've never watched a monkey spit the seeds out when eating grapes. They chew them. And the benefit of grape seed extract, by the way, is in the seeds of the grape and they're not there anymore because you didn't want them in your grapes because it slowed you down from eating that sugar bomb.  And that's okay. If you want to have a sugar bomb, be my guess. Me, I personally, if I'm going to choose between the two, the way modern grapes are bred, I'm probably better off having a 70% or 90% chocolate bar rather than a bowl of grapes. Okay. So why do we like fructose? I've written about this since day one. My first book, Dr. Gundry's Diet of Evolution, one of my sayings was give fruit the boot. Now my editors at Random House were just apoplectic about this because it certainly went against conventional wisdom. And they said, how can you say such a thing? And I said, well, interestingly enough, my research as an undergraduate was in human evolution and studying how great apes morphed, if you will, into humans based on their diet. And great apes only gain weight during fruit season. And fruit season, even in the jungle, occurs once a year. We have two thirds of our tongue as sweet receptors. And we have it because when we taste sweet, we should eat as much as possible to gain weight for the times then there isn't much food. And I've talked about this before, but we're going to do it again.  And the plant is manipulating you to be interested in eating its fruit because its fruit contains its baby's seeds until they were genetically manipulated not to have seeds.  And the more of their fruit that you eat, the more babies that you would poop out and the better chance that they would have of having more of them. So to convince you to eat their babies, they had a diabolically clever plan. First of all, they told you when the fruit was ripe by the color of the fruit. And fruit ripens, it changes yellow, orange, or red in general. And isn't it amazing walk down any snack food aisle, walk down any cereal aisle and you'll see almost all the packaging is some shade of yellow, orange, or red. And that's because those colors hit your brain and say, oh my gosh, it's fruit season, we should eat as much of this as possible. Now here's the other trick. Why is there fructose in fruit rather than some other sugar like glucose? Well, it's well shown that glucose when you ingest it raises your insulin level. And when insulin raises, it actually shuts off very quickly your hunger. When you eat fructose, fructose has no effect on insulin because fructose is such a toxin and I'll get to that in a second that rather than going in your bloodstream, it goes direct to your liver where it's detoxified and we'll get to that in a second. So insulin levels stay down. So one of the fascinating things and I'm holding up a generous clump of grapes. There's about two cups of grapes here. You could easily eat these two cups of grapes and grab another and have absolutely no feeling of satiety of being full. That's because the plant designed it that way so that you'd keep eating its babies. And it was a huge benefit to us because we could keep eating and keep storing fat. So I had to send papers, there's actually books published on the fact that great apes only gain weight. So I had to give my editors large amounts of documents and I printed out one just for fun today. And I'll read it off changes in orangutan caloric intake energy balance and ketones in response to fluctuating fruit availability by Cheryl Dean Knot. And this was published in Springer and basically they studied 60 orangutans in Indonesia. And they found low and behold, that orangutans when they were eating fructose went out of ketosis. Anybody paying attention fructose stops ketosis. And only during fruit season did they manufacture fat. The rest of the year they actually spent in ketosis. And again, there's books written on the subject. And so fruit eating was incredibly useful to you and me, our ancestors to gain weight for a period of less food. The problem is up until recently, fruit was only available for a very short time period. And then it wasn't available. I happen to have a few blackberry bushes and raspberry bushes in my backyard. And believe it or not, if you're going to have fruit, blackberries and raspberries are probably the best fruits to have. Actually take it back. Passion fruit has the lowest fructose of any fruit. And I also have a passion fruit vine in my yard. My blackberries and raspberries were great for about a month. And guess what? They're no longer. There's no fruit on them. And there won't be until next spring. I can go to the store and I can buy blackberries and raspberries every day of the year and almost every grocery store. I can on my way from Palm Springs to Santa Barbara every week, I go past rows and rows and rows and rows of blackberry bushes and raspberry bushes and strawberries that are bearing year round because they've been hybridized and they've been genetically engineered to grow year round and bear fruit year round. That doesn't make it good for you or even a smart idea. We weren't designed for that. We were designed to access fruit in a circadian rhythm based on seasons. And I love walking down in my garden and going, Son of a gun, look at that, those blackberries and raspberries don't produce fruit right now, I better not be eating them. That I can get in a grocery store. Great apes gain weight during fruit season. You were designed to want fruit.  So is fruit juice bad for you? Is fructose that bad? Well, here's a paper from Pediatrics, the Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics and I am a fellow of the American Academy of Pediatrics. Excess fruit juice consumption by preschool age children is associated with short stature and obesity. Fruit juice consumption associated with short stature and obesity. Children never ever drank fruit juice like apple juice as their beverage of choice. That is a modern phenomenon. How about from current opinion in endocrinology, diabetes and obesity, fructose consumption and cancer? Is there a connection? It turns out that the American Cancer Society did a study where they took women who had successful removal of breast cancer and they divided them into two groups. One group was said, don't change your diet. The other group said, you need to eat seven servings of fruits and vegetables a day. The current dietary guidelines. Now, think about what that says to you and me.   The other thing is that if something is if a vegetable has a seed in it, then it's a fruit, a tomato is a fruit, a bell pepper is a fruit, an eggplant is a fruit, a squash is a fruit. So we gravitate to those vegetables that are actually fruits. So what they found was that, interestingly enough, the incidence of recurrent breast cancer was higher in the women who followed the guidelines of eating seven fruits and vegetables a day. Why? Because they were eating mostly fruits. Now, why is fruit such a mischief maker in terms of fructose? It's because cancer cells actually create energy by what's called glycolysis fermentation. It's actually very inefficient. But if you have a lot of substrate, it's really good at producing lots of energy. Plus this paper, which I just held up shows that cancer cells can use fructose, sugar to build proteins that they need to build more cancer cells, whereas glucose, the other sugar can't be used for that. And that's why in all of my books, I have documentation of patients who I have managed with aggressive cancers, squamous cell cancers of the skin, brain cancers, prostate cancers, who when we took fruit and seeded vegetables away from them, their cancers regress.  But just out of interest, those of you who've read the plant paradox, you know that book ends with a young man who had the most devastating form of brain cancer, a neuroblastoma, the same cancer that killed Joe Biden's son. And he had a huge resection of it, and they left a lot behind. And they sent him home to get his affairs in order and gave him six to 12 months to live, which is par. He had cured himself of prostate cancer years before by following my program. And he sheepishly showed up in my office again, asking for help. Interestingly enough, we just talked on the phone last week. He has three children, a daughter who's 13, two sons, twins who are 10. They're all doing great. And he was reminiscing that seven years ago, really of that day, was the day we started on the program and removed all fruits and seeded vegetables from him.  His pet scans are normal. He's on no medications. And he just called to say, you know, you were right. So I've had 20 years of taking care of patients on a daily basis, observing what happens when we give them fruit, take away their fruit. And I can tell you, that's why I wrote in the first book, give fruit the boot. How about this one? This is a review. Fructose, a highly lipogenic, that means fat forming nutrient, implicated in insulin resistance, hepatic steatosis, that's fatty liver disease, which is rampant, and the metabolic syndrome, which is taking our country by storm. And it just so happens that fructose feeding has now been shown to alter gene expression patterns, alter satiety factors in the brain. That means it doesn't stop your hunger. It increases inflammation, increases reactive oxygen species, and portal endotoxin concentrations, which you're going to learn all about in the energy paradox in both human and animal feeding studies, not just rats, humans. How about this one? This one was one of the questions. In fact, let me read the question, because it's a good one. Our bodies literally run on sugar. Fruit is essential for life. I guess nobody asked an Eskimo if fruit was essential for life, because Eskimos don't eat fruit. There is no fruit. Better call all of my keto friends because they're doing very well without fruit. In fact, our body runs on glucose, not fructose. In fact, a fructose rich diet, I'm holding up another paper from Nutrients 2017, a fructose rich diet affects mitochondrial DNA damage and repair. Huh, fructose damages mitochondria. Gee, I just didn't make that up. That's actually been studied. And of course it would be damaging to mitochondria. That's why it's taken to the liver to detoxify it into uric acid and triglycerides. Now I got really interested in triglycerides, because triglycerides are the first form of fat from sugars and starches, primarily fructose. And triglycerides are carried by LDL, the so-called bad cholesterol. And imagine my surprise when personally, I took my triglycerides of 166, that's a little over normal, stopped eating fruit, and my triglycerides fell to 30. And imagine my eight full shock when my HDL, my good cholesterol, which was horribly low at 32, and I was told it was genetic, went to 80 when I stopped eating fruit. And I published papers of human studies of where this has been done. And the paper is called our heart diet recommendations all wrong. Fruit increases triglycerides and increases LDL and it lowers HDL, exactly what you don't want to happen. How about this? High dietary fructose, direct or indirect dangerous factors disturbing tissue and organ functions from nutrients, accepted 2017. And basically during fructose metabolism, ATP depletion occurs. Depletion occurs. It doesn't help ATP. Why does that happen? Well, it turns out that you'll learn this in the energy paradox. We take a compound called adenosine monophosphate, turn it into adenosine diphosphate. And then at the final stage of making ATP, we add another triphosphate and we get adenosine triphosphate ATP. Fructose grabs a MP takes it out of the energy making chain, and instead turns it into uric acid. So fructose actually steals your ATP. And there you are having your fruit smoothie before you go to work out. The plant has fooled you and the data is actually rather impressive. How about this one? Published in 2012 in hepatology, higher dietary fructose is associated with impaired hepatic ATP homeostasis in obese individuals. Huh, fructose. How about this one? From Journal of Nutrition. Vegetable but not fruit consumption reduces the risk of type two diabetes in women. Vegetable consumption but not fruit consumption reduces the risk of diabetes. Oh, here's a good one. From 2010, the journals of gerontology increased fructose intake as a risk factor for dementia. Well, of course, if it causes endotoxins in your bloodstream, if it damages mitochondria, then you might find evidence that fructose increases your risk of dementia. How about this one? Let's just use the same amount of calories in a test. But take fructose out and replace it with glucose and see what happens to human beings. Isochloric fructose restriction reduces serum delactate concentration, which is the first part of liver de novo lipid synthesis in children with obesity and metabolic syndrome. Taking the fructose away and giving them glucose stopped fat production in the liver. Oh, one more. How about from 2019, the Journal of the American Heart Association, serial plasma, phospholipid fatty acids in the de novo lipogenesis pathway and total mortality caused specific mortality and cardiovascular diseases in the cardiovascular health study. And what the heck are you talking about? Turns out that fructose makes a fatty acid called palmitate. It's called C16, if you want to look it up. And as you'll see in the energy paradox that fructose is where palmitate comes from. And if you follow what happens to individuals with the highest levels of palmitate in their bloodstream, they have the highest all cause mortality, the highest mortality from cardiovascular diseases, and the highest amount of heart disease from the amount of palmitate in their bloodstream. And palmitate doesn't come from palm oil.  Okay, fructose isn't bad. These are statements. It's only bad if you have too much of it. I actually think fructose is bad. And I think you can see why there might be evidence of that. That's why, believe it or not, when I wrote my first book, and every subsequent book, I told you, get yourself a juicer, put it in a juicer, throw the juice away, that's the fructose, and take the pulp and mix it in coconut yogurt, mix it in lava yogurt, mix it in goat yogurt, mix it in sheep yogurt, throw that in your smoothing. Get rid of the fructose. The rest of the fruit, there's some phenomenal benefits that I write extensively about. I want to get polyphenols in you. I just want to get the mischief maker fructose away from you. And that goes to this next question. Fruits are packed with antioxidants, vitamins essential. They should never be tossed into the same category of sugar. Well, they used to be packed with antioxidants and vitamins. But our soil is now completely devoid of most of the things that you're looking for in fruit that are beneficial. And in fact, a really good extra dark chocolate bar will have many more antioxidants than you will find in fruit. So let's be careful out there folks. Number five, you have fruit in your products and you say fruit is evil. How can you be so confusing? Well, I'm not confusing at all. I and other people use the extracts of fruits, the polyphenols in fruits. We get rid of the part of the fruit that's mischievous and that is fructose. Again, I have nothing against fruit. I just wish we could go back to a time when it was packaged better when it was grown properly. And we only had it for a very limited time period. And that's what I've said in all my books. And I said it from day one. But if you have a choice and you have diabetes, if you have metabolic syndrome, please give fruit the boot. Let me bring up a recent example from two weeks ago. Two recent examples. I take care of a lot of diabetics, both type one and type two. I've never met a type two diabetic that doesn't have to be a diabetic if we can teach them how to eat. And one of the first things I do for diabetics is remove fruit from their diet. And recently, I had a very, very bad diabetic who had hemoglobin A1C of 10. Most of you know, I got my A1C down from commercials on TV. Hemoglobin A1C basically looks at the amount of sugar and protein that you're handling for two months before the test, looking back in time on average. And normal is less than 5.6. I believe that we should all be aiming for 5.0 or below. So this diabetic started with a hemoglobin A1C of 10 and a blood sugar of over 300. Within three months, we had his hemoglobin A1C down to eight. His fasting blood sugar was down to 163. His triglycerides, and I remember triglycerides come from sugars and starches, particularly fructose, went from over 500 to 163. Not bad, not where we want them, but a good start. I saw him recently three months later. And I was shocked. His hemoglobin A1C is shot up to 12 and a half. His blood sugar was 360. And his triglycerides were up to 700. And I'm going, what happened? He says, oh, I read this book. And the book says, if I'm a diabetic, I can cure myself of diabetes by eating a fruit diet. And that's all I've been doing. He said, I've been cramming the grapes in. I've been eating apples. That's what I've been living on. And I showed him his results. And I said, quite frankly, you haven't been living on a high fruit diet. You've been dying on a high fruit diet. And the numbers couldn't lie. I had another gentleman who we got all the way down with the plant paradox program to a hemoglobin A1C of 4.9. Six months ago. And I saw him back for his six month visit. And one of the first things I noticed about him is a very thin, he's an athletic individual, that he had a pretty interesting, for lack of a better word, beer got on him. That his wife had noticed. And he had gained about 12 pounds. He was very thin before. And I said, Hey, you know, it's interesting. You're gaining weight. He says, Oh, yeah, you know, it's COVID. I'm not exercising. I'm not changing. Okay. And he says, but let me tell you, he says, I read this book. And the book says that the key to health, particularly during this time is a high fruit diet. And he says, So I have been eating fruit. He said, I couldn't be happier. I who knew that I could have all the fruit I wanted. And I said, Well, did you ever carry the great apes gain weight during fruit season? He says, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but this book says that that's not true. And I said, Well, let's look at your numbers. So his hemoglobin A1C, which was 4.9, that's actually gold star work in our office, was now six. And in our office, 6.0 is diabetes is insulin level, which had been two and three was now 14. He was an insulin resistant diabetic in six months, by following a high fruit diet. Oh, and by the way, is HDL, which used to be spectacularly high at 70 had fallen to 30. And his triglycerides, which had been as low as 40 and 40 five, we're now up in the 150s, which is wildly high for him, all because he added fruit to his diet. So 20 years of experience. I'm not just saying this for controversy. I'm saying this because I take care of patients on a daily basis. And I can't watch them kill themselves. Give fruit the boot. Next one, if what Dr. Gundry says about fruit is true, then how could so many people heal from juice fasting or high fruit diets? Well, I used to be for about nine months, a raw food is and I've talked about that before. And what so many raw food is fine is that the only way that they can maintain their weight, because you lose weight dramatically on a raw food diet is to eat large amounts of fruit. And I can tell you from personal connections that almost every raw food chef has had to stop being a raw food chef either because they develop diabetes, or their teeth rotted out seriously. And they've had to abandon a high fruit diet. There's a few that pull it off. But most and I, I know that community very well. I have every raw food book ever written. Most of it is unsustainable. Sadly. And juice juice fasting. Quite frankly, what's happening in those and I get into that in the energy paradox is you dramatically cut calories. And quite frankly, you can get away with just about anything for a short period of time. It's the cutting the calories out. It's reducing the window when you're digesting things that made all the difference, not the fact that you were on a juice diet. Does it fiber in fruit helps slow the body's absorption of fructose? Yes, it does. But the problem is fruit has been bred for sugar content and less fiber content. It's been bred for size. So that fiber is unfortunately, not very much.  So sorry, fiber in that kind of situation is overrated.  This thinking is so backwards and illogical. Just because the plant wants to seduce you into taking its fruit and depositing its babies somewhere else doesn't necessarily make us particularly smart. One of my great revelations in life was thanks to Michael Paulin's first book, which was called The Botany of Desire, how plants manipulate us, insects, their predators for their benefit. And that, of course, is one of the reasons I wrote the plant paradox, because plants don't necessarily have our best interests in mind. It was a win-win long ago when we had fruit, we gained weight, we made it through the hard times. It was the perfect way to do it. Just look at the orangutans. But now we don't do that anymore. You have to cycle fruit. Okay, so you can point to some studies in animals, but what about humans?  So that's it. I love fruit. We all love fruit. We were designed at the basic level to love fruit. Our tongue was designed to love fruit. Our physiology was designed to love fruits because we could fatten up for the winter. And even the colors of yellow, red, and orange hit our brain and says, eat more of that.  So I don't mind being manipulated by a plant, but at least I know that that's what the plants trying to do to me. I'm an educated consumer. I'm not against fruit, but I am very wary of modern fruit. So just have fruit, have a little bit of it, not too much, and only in the season when it would be available where you live 50 years ago. Okay, so I know this fruit lecture was difficult to digest. I'm not against fruit. I eat fruit. But berries are your best solution if you're going to eat fruit. Blackberries have the lowest fructose of the berries followed by raspberries followed by boys and berries. Strawberries, if you can find them that are truly organic, they're not bad either. But bananas, apples are way up there. And passion fruit, it's coming into passion fruit season. And if you want a low low fructose fruit with tremendous health benefits, passion fruits can't be beat. And by the way, lemons and limes have as many as you want, they're incredibly low in fructose. Use the peel, use shavings, the polyphenols in lemons and limes are just absolutely spectacular. But do it in season. Enjoy fruit. Just watch that you're not doing it year round. And if you really want to have fruit year round, just follow my recommendation. Put in a juicer, get rid of the juice and freeze the pulp in little ice cube trays and then throw it in smoothies. You'll get all the benefit of fruit. There's tons of benefits in the polyphenols and the fiber and fruit. If you get rid of the fructose that's been manipulated in all our current fruits into very high levels.  And I don't want that for you either. It's time for our audience question. Ah, this is a good one. I wanted to answer this week. It comes from tomorrow Marie MD on Instagram who wondered why I would recommend sun chokes when each cup has 14 grams of sugar. That is a great question. And in fact, each cup does have 14 grams of sugar. Two and a half grams of that sugar is fiber. But anywhere from 30 to 50% of the sugar content of a sun choke is inulin. And inulin, you and I cannot digest as sugar. We cannot absorb inulin as sugar. But who wants inulin? You got it. Our gut buddies think that inulin is probably their favorite food.  So why wouldn't I promote sun chokes? In fact, they're really one of my favorite foods for feeding gut buddies. But thank you very much. Remember, just because it says sugar or carbohydrate doesn't tell you what that carbohydrate is, whether you're absorbing it or whether your gut buddies are getting to it first. So again, an educated consumer is what I'm looking for. And that's why I do this. Now it's time for review of the week. This week's review comes from Nina Nava on iTunes, who gave us a five star review. Thank you very much. And wrote, Dr. Gundry has a unique way of educating us on topics that can at times seem too complex or overwhelming. He keeps you entertained with his wit, making the information memorable. If you haven't listened to his podcast, you are missing out your gut. Well, thank you. Well, thank you, Nina Nava. Your review on iTunes helps us reach the biggest possible audience so we can all live longer, healthier, and happier lives. And again, that's why I do this. And I thank you that you recognize I try to put a little win in on all this because some of this stuff is pretty deep. And I want to make it as accessible to any of us. That's what I'm here for. And so thanks for that and tune in. And that's it for the Dr. Gundry podcast. And I'll see you next week. Before you go. I just wanted to remind you that you can find the show on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher or wherever you get your podcasts, because I'm Dr. Gundry and I'm always looking out for you.


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profuseness throughout that Prince instead of ever having seen anything like it on that he could not have imagined that there was anything in the world that could come up to it Prince said the fairy if you admire my palace so much which indeed is very beautiful what would you say to the palaces of the chief of our genies which are much more beautiful spacious and magnificent I could also charm with my gardens but will I set the low until another time night draws near and it will be time to go to supper the next hall which the fairy led the Prince into and where the close was laid for the feast was less apartment the Prince had not seen and not in less inferior to the others but his interest into it he admired the infinite numbers of scones of wax candle proofing with amber multitude of which instead of being confused were placed with so just a symmetry as formed on a grivel and pleasant side a large side table was set out with all sorts of gold plates so finally rough that workmanship was much more valuable than the weight of the gold several choruses of beautiful women richly dressed and whose voices were ravishing began a concert accompanied with all sorts of most harmonious instruments and when they were set down at the table the fairy proven her to care to help Prince Ahmet to the most delicate myths which he named as she invited him to eat of them and which the Prince found to be so exquisitely nice that he commanded them with exaggeration and said that the entertainment far surpassed those of men he found also the same excellence in wines which neither he nor the fairy tasted of chilled dessert was served up which consisted of choices sweet myths and fruits wedding feasts was continued next day or rather these following celebration were continual feasts at the end of six months Prince Ahmet who always loved and honored salt in his father conceived the great desire to know how he was and that desire could not be satisfied without this going to see he told the fairy of it and desired she should give him leave Prince said she go anew please but first don't take it amaze that I give you some advice how you shall behave yourself where you are going first I don't think it proper for you to tell the salt near father of your marriage nor of my quality nor the place where you have been beg of him to be satisfied in knowing you are happy and desire no more and let him know that soul and of your visit is to make him easy and if only of your fate she appointed 20 gentlemen well mounted and equipped to attend him when all those ready Prince Ahmet took his leave of the fairy embrace her and renew this promise to return soon then his horse which is most finally and was as beautiful a creature as any salt in his tables was led to him and he mounted him with an extraordinary grace and after he had with her last idea set forward on his journey as it was not a great way to his father's capital Prince Ahmet soon arrived there the people who like to see him again received him with exclamation of joy and followed him in crowds to the saltman's apartment the saltman received and embraced him with great joy complaining at same time with the father with tenderness and the affliction his long absence had been to him which he said was more grievous for that fortune having decided in favor of Prince Ali's brother he was afraid he might have committed some rash action Prince told the story of his adventures without speaking of the fairy home he said that he must not mention and ended the only favor I ask of your majesty is to give me leave to come often and pay you my respect and to know how you do son answered saltman in this I cannot refuse you leave you ask me but I should much rather you would resolve to stay with me at least tell me where I may send to you if you should fail to come or when I may think your presence necessary sir applied Prince Ahmet what your majesty asks of me is part of mystery I spoke to your majesty of I beg of you to give me leave to remain silent on this head for I shall come so frequently that I am afraid that I shall sooner be thought troublesome than be the accused of negligence in my duty the saltman of the Indies press Prince Ahmet no more but said to him son I penetrate no farther into our secrets but leave you at your liberty but can I tell you that you could not do me a greater pleasure than to come and by your presence restore to me the joy I have not felt this long time and that you shall always be welcome when you come without interrupting your business for pleasure Prince Ahmet stayed but three days at Sultan's father's court and forced returned to the ferry Paribunu who did not expect him so soon a month after Prince Ahmet returned from paying a visit to his father as the ferry Paribunu had observed at the Prince since the time that he gave her an account of his journey is discussed with his father and leave he asked to go and see him often I've never talked of Sultan as if there has been no such person in the world where as before he was always speaking of him she thought before blood on her account therefore she took an opportunity to say to him one day Prince tell me have you forgot Sultan your father don't you remember the promise you made to go and see him often for my part I have not forgot what he told me at your return and so put you in mind of it that you may not be long before you quit yourself of your promise so Prince Ahmet went next morning with same attendance as before but much finer and himself more magnificently mounted, equipped with the same joy and satisfaction for several months he constantly paid his visits always in a richer and finer echipage at last some visitors the Sultan's favorite the judge of Prince Ahmet's grand power but figary cut made Sultan jealous of his son saying it was to be feared he might infill himself into the people's favor and dethrone him the Sultan of the Indies was so far from thinking that Prince Ahmet could be capable of supernicious design as his favorites would make him believe that he said to them you are mistaken my son loves me and I am served in his tenderness and fidelity as I have given him no reason to be disgusted but favorites went on abusing Prince Ahmet till the Sultan said be it as it will I don't believe my son Ahmet is so wicked as you would persuade me he is however I am obliged to you for your good advice and don't dispute but that it proceeds from your good intentions the Sultan of the Indies said is that his favorites might not know the expressions that this curse have made on his mind which had so alarmed him that he resolved to have Prince Ahmet watch unknown to his grand vizier so he sent for a female magician who was introduced by a back door into his apartment going immediately he said unfollow my son and watch him so well as to find out where he retires and bring me word the magician left Sultan and knowing the place where Prince Ahmet found his arrow went immediately tether near the rocks so that nobody could see her next morning Prince Ahmet set out by daybreak without taking leave either of the Sultan or any of his court according to custom the magician, seeing him coming followed him with her eyes till on the sudden she lost sight of him and his attendants as the rocks were very step and craggy they were an instrument of all the rear so that magician chose that there were but two things for it either that the Prince retired into some cavern as a ferris there happened she came out of the place where she was hit and went directly to the hollow way which she traced till she came to the further end looking carefully about on all sides but notwithstanding all her diligence could perceive no opening not so much as the iron gate which Prince Ahmet discovered which was to be seen and opened to none but men and only to such whose presence was agreeable to the ferris paribano the magician who saw it was in vain for her to search any further to be satisfied with the discovery she had made and return to give the Sultan an account the Sultan was very well pleased with the magician's conduct and said to her do you as you think fit I'll wait patiently the event of your promises and to encourage her by the presence of a diamond of great value as Prince Ahmet had obtained the ferris paribano's leaf to go to the Sultan of the Indies court once a month he never failed and the magician knowing the time went a day or two before to the foot of the rock where she lost sight of Prince Ahmet's attendance and waited there the next morning Prince Ahmet went out as usual at iron gate with some attendances before and passed by a magician whom he knew not to be such and seeing her lie with her head against the rock and complaining as if she were in great pain he pitted her, turned his horse about went to her and asked her what was matter with her and what he could do to ease her the artful sorcerers looked at Prince in a pitiful manner without ever lifting up her head and answered in broken words and sides as if she could hardly fetch her breath that she was going to the capital city but on the way theater she was taken with so violent a fever that her strength failed her and she was forced to lie down where he saw her far from any habitation and without any hopes of assistance Good woman! replied Prince Ahmet you are not so far from help as you imagine I am ready to assist you and convey you where you will meet with the speedy cure only get up and take you behind him at this worst magician who pretended thickness only to know where the Prince lived and what he did refused not charitable offer he made her and that her actions might correspond to their words she made many pretended vain endeavors to get up at same time two of the Prince's attendants alighting off their horses helped her up and set her behind another and mounted their horses again and followed Prince who turned back to the iron gate which was opened by one of its rich in you and when he came into the outward court of the fairy without dismounting himself he sent to tell her he wanted to speak with her the fairy perivano came with all imaginable haste not knowing what made Prince Ahmet return so soon who, not giving her time to ask him the reason, said Princess I dare you to have compassion on this good woman pointing to the magician who was held up by two of his retinue I found her in the condition you see her in and promised her the assistance she stands in need of and I am persuaded that you out of your own goodness as well as up on my entreaty will not abandon her the fairy perivano whether eyes fixed upon the pretended sick woman all the time that the Prince was talking to her ordered two of her women who followed her to take her from the two men that held her and carry her into an apartment of the palace and take as much care of her as she would herself while the two women executed the fairy's commands she went up to Prince Ahmet and whispering in his ear said Prince, this woman is not so sick as she pretends to be and I am very much mistaken if she's not an imposter who will be the cause of a great trouble to you do not be concerned let what will be advised against you be persuaded that I will deliver you out of all the snares that shall be laid for you go and pursue your journey this discursive's fairies did not in the least frighten Prince Ahmet my princess said he does not remember I ever did or designed anybody an injury I cannot believe anybody can have a thought of doing me one and if they have I shall not nevertheless forbid doing good whenever I have an opportunity then he went back to his father's palace in the meantime the two women carried Magician into a very fine apartment ritly furnished first they sat her down upon a sofa with her back supported with a cushion of gold brocade while they made the bed on the same sofa before her the quilt of which was finally embroidered with silk the sheets of the finest linen the cloth of gold when it put her into bed for the old sorceress pretended that her fever was so violent she could not help herself in the least one of the women went out and returned soon again with a china dish in her hand full of a certain liquor which she presented to the Magician while the other helped her to sit up drink this liquor said she it is one of the Thornton of Lyons and the sovereign remedy against all fevers whatsoever you'll find the effect of it in less than an hour's time the sabre was better took it after a great deal of entreaty but at last she took the china dish and holding back her head swallowed down the liquor when she was laid down again the two women covered her up like quiet said she who brought her the china cup and get a little sleep if you can we leave you and hope to find you perfectly cured when you come again in our hands the two women came again at the time they said they should and found Magician up and dressed on the sofa how was my robot potion she said it was rough it's cure much sooner than it told me it would and I shall be able to prostitute my journey the two women who were fairies as well as their mistress after they had told Magician how glad they were that she was cured so soon walked before her and conducted her through several apartments all more noble than that or in Chile into a large hall the most richly and magnificently furnished of all the palace set in this hall on the throne of massive gold enriched with diamonds, rubies and thrones of an extraordinary size and attended on each hand by a great number of beautiful fairies all richly clothed outside of so much majesty Magician was not only vessel but also amazed that after she had prostrated herself before the throne she could not open her lips to thank fairy as she proposed however, her even knew savor the trouble and said to her good woman I am glad I have an opportunity to congratulate you and to see you are able to pursue your journey I want to thank you but perhaps you may not be displeased to see my palace follow my women and I will show it to you then the Magician went back and related to the Sultan of the Indies all that had happened and how very rich Priest Ahmed was since his marriage with the fairy richer than all the kings in the world and how there was danger that he should come and take the throne from his father Magician was good yet he could not help being concerned at the discursive all sorcerers to whom when she was thanking her leave he said I thank thee for the pains thou hast taken and thy wholesome advice I am so sensible of the great importance it is to me that I shall liberate the operating council now the favourites advice that the prince should be killed but Magician advised differently make him give you all kinds of wonderful things by the fairies help till she tires of him and sends him away as for example every time your majesty goes into the field you are obliged to be at a great expense not only in pavilions and tents for your army but likewise in mills and camels to carry their baggage now might not you engage him to use his interest with the fairy to procure a tent which might be carried in a man's hand and which should be so large as to shelter your whole army against bad weather when the Magician had finished her speech the Sultan asked his favourites if they had anything better to propose all silent, the two may follow the Magician's advice as the most reasonable and most agreeable to his mouth government next day certainly the best Magician had advised him and asked for his pavilion Chris Hamed never expected that Sultan his father would have asked such a thing which would first appear so difficult not so impossible though he knew not absolutely how great power of genius and fairies was he doubted where it extended so far as to compass such a tent as his father desired at last he replied though it is with the greatest reluctance imaginable I will not fail to ask favour of my wife your majesty desires that will not promise you to obtain it and if I should not have the honour to come again to pay my respects that shall be decided I have not had success but beforehand I desire you to forgive me and consider that you or yourself have reduced me to this extremity Sun replied the Sultan of the Indies I should be very sorry if what I ask of you should cause me the displeasure of never seeing you more I find you don't know the power a husband has of her wife and yours would show that her love to you was very indifferent if she with the power she has of a fairy should refuse to trust in your request as this I desire you to ask of her for my sake the prince went back and was very sad for fear of a fan in the fairy she kept pressing him to tell her what was the matter and at last he said Mother you may have observed that Etherta I have been content with your love but I never asked you any other favour consider then I conjure you that it is not I but the soul of my father who indiscreetly or at least I think so begs of you a pavilion large enough to shelter him, his court and the army from the violence of the weather and which a man may carry in his hand but remember it is the soul of my father asked this favour Prince replied the fairy smiling I am sorry that so small a marriage to disturb you I can make you so uneasy as you appear to me then the fairy sent for a treasurer to whom, when she came she said Norgyan, which was her name bring me the largest pavilion in my treasury Norgyan returned presently with pavilion which he could not only hold in her hand but in the palm of her hand when she shot her fingers and presented it to her mistress who gave it to Prince Hameth to look at when Prince Hameth saw the pavilion which the fairy called largest in the treasury he fanced that she had the mind to jest with him and there happened the marks of his surprise appeared presently in this continent which for even you perceiving but start laughing what Prince? cried she do you think I jest with you? you'll see presently that I am in earnest Norgyan said she to her treasurer taking the tent out of Prince Hameth's hands go and set it up that Prince made just whatever it may be large enough for to soften his father the treasurer went immediately with it out of the palace he set it a great way off and when she had set it up one hand reached the very palace at which time the prince, thinking it small found it large enough to shelter two greater armies than death of the saltiness fathers and then set up a revenue I asked my prince a sudden pardon for my credulity after what I have seen I believe there is nothing impossible to you you see? said the fairy that pavilion is larger than what your father may have occasion for for you must know that it has one property that it is larger or smaller according to the army this to cover the treasurer took down the tent again and brought it to the prince who took it and without saying any longer than till the next day mounted his horse and went with the same attendance to the saltiness father the saltiness who was persuaded that there could be any such thing as such a tent as he asked for was in great surprise at the princess diligence he took the tent and after he had admired it the smallest his amazement was so great that he could not recover himself when the tent was set up in the great plain which we have before mentioned he found it large enough to shelter an army twice as large as he could bring into the field but sudden it was not yet satisfied son said he I have already expressed to you how much I have obliged you for the presence of the tent you have procured me that I look upon it as the most valuable thing in all my treasury but you must do one thing more for me which will be every week as agreeable to me I am informed that to ferry your spouse makes use of a certain water called the water of the fountain of lions which cures all sorts of fevers even the most dangerous and as I am perfectly well persuaded my elf is dear to you I don't doubt that you will ask her for a bottle of that water for me and bring it to me as a sovereign medicine which I make use of when I have occasion do me this other important piece of service and thereby complete the duty of a good son toward the tender father the prince returned and told the ferry what his father had said there's a great deal of wickedness in this demand she answered as you'll understand but I'm going to tell you the fountain of lions is situated in the middle of a court of a great castle the entrance into which is guarded by four fierce lions two of which sleep alternately while the other two are awake but don't let that frighten you I'll give you means to pass by them they're in danger the ferry Paribano was at that time very hard at work and as he had several clues of threat by her she took up one and presenting it to Prince Ameth said first take this shoe of thread I'll tell you presently the use of it in second place you must have two horses one you must ride yourself and the other you must leave which must be loaded with the ship cut into four quarters that must be killed today in the third place provided with a bottle which I'll give you to bring the water in set out early tomorrow morning and when you have passed the iron gates through the clue of threat before you which will roll till it comes to the gates of the castle follow it and when it stops as the gates will be open you'll see it for lions the two that are awake will by the roaring wake the other two but don't be frightened but throw each of them a quarter of a mutton and then claps purrs to your horse fill your butter without the lighting and then return with the same expedition the lions will be so busy eating they will let you pass by them Prince Ameth set out next morning at a time appointed by the ferry and followed the directions exactly when he arrived at the gates of the castle he distributed quarters of mutton among four lions and passing through the midst of them bravely got to the fountain filled this bottle and returned back as safe and sound as he went when he had gone a little distance from the castle gates he turned him about and, receiving two of the lions coming after him he threw his saber and prepared himself for defense but as he went forward he saw one of them turned out to the road at some distance and showed by this head and tail that he did not come to do him any arm but only to go before him and that the others stayed behind to follow he put his sword up again in its cupboard garden in this manner he arrived at the capital of the Indies but the lions never left him till they had conducted him to the gates of the Sultan's palace after which they returned the same way they came though not without threatening all that saw them for all they went in a very gentle manner and showed no fierceness a great many officers came to attend the Prince while he dismounted his horse and afterward conducted him into the Sultan's apartment who was at that time surrounded with his favorites he approached toward the throne laid the bottle at Sultan's feet and kissed the rich tapestry which covered his footstool and then said I have brought you sir the helpful water which your majesty desires so much to keep among your other rarities in your treasury but at the same time wish you such extraordinary health as never to have occasion to make use of it after the Prince had made an end of this compliment the Sultan placed him on his right hand and then said to him son I am very much obliged to you for this valuable present as also for the great danger you have exposed yourself to open my account which I have been informed of by a magician who knows the fountains of lions but do me the pleasure continued he to inform me by what address or rather by what incredible power you have been secured sir replied Prince Ahmed I have no share in compliments your majesty is pleased to make me all the honor is due to the fairy my spouse whose good advice I followed then he informed the Sultan what those directions were his expedition let him know how well he had behaved himself when he had done the Sultan who showed outwardly all demonstrations of great joy but secretly became more jealous returned into an inward apartment very sent for the magician the magician at her arrival saved the Sultan the trouble to tell her the success of Prince Hamad's journey which he had heard of before she came and therefore was prepared an infallible means as she pretended this means she communicated to the Sultan who declared it next day to the Prince in the midst of all his courtiers in these words son said he I have one thing more to ask of you after which I shall expect nothing more from your obedience nor your interest with your wife this request is to bring me a man not above a foot and a half eye until his beard is thirty feet long who carries a bar of iron upon his shoulders of five unhundred weight which he uses as a quarter step Hamad, who did not believe that there was such a man in the world as his father described would gladly have excused himself but the Sultan persisted in his demand and told him the fairy could do more incredible things the next day the Prince returned to his dear Pariba Nul to whom he told his father's new demand which he said he looked up and to be a thing more impossible than the two first before added he I cannot imagine there can be such a man in the world without doubt he has a mind to try whether or no I am so silly as to go about it or he has a design on my ruin in short how can he suppose that I should lay hold of a man so well armed though he is but little what arms can I make use of to reduce him to my will if there are any means I beg you'll tell them and let me come off with honour this time don't fright yourself Prince replied the fairy you ran a risk in fetching the water of the fountain of lions for your father but there's no danger in finding out this man who is my brother Sky's Bar but is so far from being like me though he both had same father that he is of so violent a nature that nothing can prevent his giving cruel marks of his resentment for a slight offence yet on the other hand it's so good as to oblige anyone in whatever they desire he is made exactly as salt on your father as described him and has no other arms than a bar of iron of 500 pounds 8 without which he never stirs and which makes him respected I'll send for him and you shall judge the truth of what I tell you but be sure to prepare yourself against being frightened at this extraordinary figure when you see him what? my queen? replied Prince Ahmed do you say Sky Bar is your brother? let him be never so ugly or deformed I shall be so far from being frightened at sight of him dead as our brother I shall honour and love him fairy ordered a gold-chefing dish to be set to the fire in it under the porch of her palace with a box of same metal which was a present to her out of which taking a perfume and throwing it into the fire there arose a thick cloud of smoke some moments after the fairy said to Prince Ahmed see, there comes my brother the prince immediately perceived Sky Bar coming gravely with this heavy bar on his shoulder, his long beard which he held up before him and a pair of thick mustaches which he tucked behind his ears and covered his face his eyes were very small and deep-set in his head which was far from being of the smallest size and on his head he wore a grenadier's cap besides all this he was very much unpacked if Prince Ahmed had not known that Sky Bar was Paribas' brother he would not have been able to have looked at him without fear but, knowing for who he was he stood by the fairy without least concern Sky Bar, as he came forward looked at Prince earnestly enough to have chilled his blood in his veins and asked Paribas knew when he first accosted her who that man was to which he replied he is my husband's brother his name is Ahmed he is son to the Sultan of the Indies the reason why I did not invite you to my wedding was I was unwilling to divert you from an expedition you were engaged in and from which I heard with pleasure you returned victorious and so took liberty now to call for you at this words Sky Bar Prince Ahmed favorably said is there anything else sister Rena can serve him it is enough for me that he is your husband to engage me to do for him whatever he desires the Sultan's father replied Paribas has the curiosity to see you and I desire he may be your guide to the Sultan's court he needs but leave me way I'll follow him brother replied Paribas it is too late to go today therefore stay till tomorrow morning in the meantime I'll inform you of all that has passed between the Sultan of the Indies and Prince Ahmed since our marriage the next morning after Sky Bar had been informed of the affair he and Prince Ahmed set out for the Sultan's court when they arrived at the gates of the capital the people no sooner saw Sky Bar but they ran and hid themselves and some shut up their shops and locked themselves up in their houses while others flying communicated their fear to all they met to stay not to look behind them so much that Sky Bar and Prince Ahmed as they went along found streets all just late till they came to the palaces where the porters, instead of keeping the gates ran away too so that the Prince and Sky Bar advanced without any obstacle to the castle hall where the Sultan was seated on his throne and giving audience here likewise the hushers at the approach of Sky Bar abandoned their posts and gave them free admittance Sky Bar went boldly and fiercely up to the throne without waiting to be presented by Prince Ahmed and the cost of the Sultan of the Indies in these words thou hast asked for me, said he see, here I am what would thou have with me Sultan, instead of answering him clapped his hand before his eyes to avoid sight of so terrible an object a twitch, uncivil and rude reception Sky Bar was so much provoked after he had given him the trouble to come so far that he instantly lifted up his iron bar and killed him before Prince Ahmed would intercede in his behalf all that he could do was to prevent his killing the Grand Vizier who said no far from him representing to him that he had always given Sultan his father good advice these are they then said Sky Bar who gave him bed and as he pronounced these words he killed all the other viziers and flattering favorites of the Sultan who were Prince Ahmed's enemies every time he struck he killed some one or other and unexcaped but they who were not so frightened stand staring and gapping and who saved themselves by flight when this cell execution was over Sky Bar came out of the council hall into the midst of the courtyard with the iron bar up on his shoulder and looking hard at Grand Vizier who owed his life to Prince Ahmed he said I know here is a certain magician who is a greater enemy of my brother-in-law than all these base favorites I have just decided let magician be brought to me presently as soon as he was brought, Sky Bar said at the time he fed to the stroke at her with his iron bar take the reward of Black Purnicious Council and learn to fend sickness again after this he said this is not yet enough I will use the old town after the same manner if they do not immediately acknowledge Prince Ahmed, my brother-in-law for their Sultan and Sultan of the Indies then all that were there present made air echo again with repetitive exclamation of long life to Sultan Ahmed and immediately after he was proclaimed through the whole town Sky Bar made him be clothed in royal vestments installed him on the throne and after he had caused all to swear homage and fidelity to him went and fed to Sister Peribano whom he brought with all the pomp and grandeur imaginable it made her to be owned Sultanists of the Indies as for Prince Ali and Princess Neruniar as they had no hand in conspiracy against Prince Ahmed and knew nothing of any Prince Ahmed assigned him a considerable province with its capital where they spent the rest of their lives afterwards he sent an officer to Prince Hussain to acquaint him with the change and make him an offer of which province he liked best but that Prince thought himself so happy in his solitude that he but the officer returned the Sultanist brother thanks for the kindness he designed him assuring him of his submission and that only favor he desired of him was to give him leave to the retired in the place he had made choice of to be treated and of the story of Prince Ahmed and Fairy Peribano the history of Jack the Giant Killer of the Blue Fairy Book this is a LibriVox recording all LibriVox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit LibriVox.org recording by Brett Condren the Blue Fairy Book by Andrew Lang the history of Jack the Giant Killer in the reign of the famous King Arthur there lived in Cornwall a lad named Jack who lived to light and hearing or reading of conjures, giants and fairies and used to listen eagerly to the deeds of the knights of King Arthur's round table in those days they lived on Saint Michael's Mount off Cornwall a huge giant 18 feet high and 9 feet round his fierce and savage looks were the terror of all who beheld him he dwelt in a gloomy cavern on the top of the mountain and used to wade over to the mainland in search of prey when he would throw half a dozen oxen upon his back and tie three times as many sheep and hogs to the road the giant had done this for many years when Jack resolved to destroy him Jack took a horn, a shovel, a pickaxe his armor and a dark lantern and one winter's evening he went to the mount there he dug a pit 22 feet deep and 20 broad he covered the top over so as to make it look like solid ground he then blew his horn so loudly that the giant awoke and came out of his den crying out, you saucy villain you shall pay for this I'll broil you for my breakfast he tumbled headlong into the pit and Jack struck him a blow on the head with his pickaxe which killed him Jack then returned home to cheer his friends with news another giant, called Blunderbore vowed to be revenged on Jack if ever he should have him in his power this giant kept an enchanted castle in the midst of a lonely wood and sometime after the death of Cormoran Jack was passing through the wood and being weary sat down and went to sleep the giant passing by and seeing Jack carried him to his castle where he locked him up in a large room with bodies, skulls, and bones of men and women soon after the giant went to fetch his brother who was likewise a giant to take a meal off his flesh and Jack saw with terror through the bars of his prison the two giants approaching Jack, perceiving in one corner of the room a strong cord took courage and making a slit knot at each end he threw them over their heads and tied it to the window bars he then pulled till he had choked them when they were black in the face he slid down the rope and stabbed them to the heart Jack next took a great bunch of keys from the pocket blunderbore and went into the castle again he made a strict search through all the rooms and one of them found three ladies tied up by the hair of their heads and almost starved to death they told him that their husbands had been killed by the giants who had then condemned them to be starved to death because they would not eat the flesh of their own dead husbands ladies said Jack I have put an end to the monster and his wicked brother I give you this castle and all the riches it contains to make some amends for the dreadful pains you have felt he then very politely gave them the keys of the castle and went further on his journey to Wales as Jack had but little money he went on as fast as possible at length he came to a handsome house Jack knocked at the door when there came forth a Welsh giant Jack said he was a traveller who had lost his way on which the giant made him welcome and let him into a room where there was a good bed to sleep in Jack took off his clothes quickly but though he was weary he could not go to sleep soon after this he heard the giant walking backward and forward in the next room to himself though you lodge here with me tonight you shall not see the morning light my club shall dash your brains out quite say you so thought Jack are these your tricks upon travellers but I hope to prove as cunning as you are then getting out of the bed he groped about the room and at last found a large thick billet of wood he laid it in his place in the bed and then hid himself in a dark corner of the room the giant about midnight entered the apartment he closed on the bed in the very place where Jack played the log and then he went back to his own room thinking he had broken all Jack's bones early in the morning Jack put a bold face upon the matter and walked into the giant's room to thank him for his lodging the giant started when he saw him and began to stammer out oh dear me, is it you? Bray, how did you sleep last night? did you hear or see anything in the dead of the night? nothing to speak of said Jack carelessly a rat I believe gave me three or four slaps with its tail and disturbed me a little the giant wondered more and more at this yet he did not answer a word but went to bring two great bowls of hasty pudding for their breakfast Jack wanted to make the giant believe that he could eat as much as himself so he contrived to button a leather bag inside his coat and slipped the hasty pudding into his bag while he seemed to put it into his mouth when breakfast was over he said to the giant now I will show you a fine trick I can cure all wounds with a touch I could cut off my head in one minute and the next put its sound again on my shoulders you shall see an example he took hold of the knife ripped up the leather bag and all the hasty pudding trembled out upon the floor odd splutter her nails cried the Welsh giant who was quite ashamed to be outdone by such a little fellow as Jack her can do that herself so he snatched up the knife plunged it into his own stomach and in a moment dropped down dead Jack having hitherto been successful in all his undertakings resolved not to be idle in the future he therefore furnished himself with a horse a cap of knowledge a sword of sharpness shoes of swiftness and an invisible coat formed the wonderful enterprises that lay before him he travelled over high hills and on the third day he came to a large and spacious forest through which his road lay scarcely had he entered the forest when he beheld a monstrous giant dragging along by the hair of their heads a handsome knight and his lady Jack alighted from his horse and tying him to an oak tree put on his invisible coat under which he carried his sword of sharpness when he came up to the giant he made several strokes at him but he could not reach his body but wounded his thighs in several places and at length putting both hands through his sword and aiming with all his might he cut off both his legs then Jack setting his foot upon his neck plunged his sword into the giant's body when the monster gave a groan and expired the knight and his lady thanked Jack for their deliverance and invited him to their house to receive a proper reward for his services no said Jack I cannot be easy till I find out this monstrous habitation so taking the knight's directions he mounted his horse and soon after came inside of another giant who was sitting on a block of timber waiting for his brother's return Jack alighted from his horse and putting on his invisible coat approached and aimed below at the giant's head but missing his aim he only cut off his nose on this the giant seized his club and laid about him most unmercifully May said Jack if this be the case I better dispatch you so jumping upon the block he stabbed him in the back when he dropped down dead Jack then proceeded on his journey and travelled over hills and dales till arriving at the foot of a high mountain he knocked at the door of a lonely house when an old man let him in when Jack was seated the hermit thus addressed him my son on the top of this mountain is an enchanted castle kept by the giant Gallagantis and a vile magician I lament the fate of a Duke's daughter whom they seized as she was walking in her father's garden and brought hither transformed into a deer Jack promised in the morning at the risk of his life he would break the enchantment and after a sound sleep he rose early put on his invisible coat and got ready for the attempt when he had climbed to the top of the mountain he saw two fiery griffins but he passed between them without the least fear of danger he could not see him because of his invisible coat on the castle gate he found a golden trumpet under which were written these lines whoever can this trumpet blow shall cause the giants overthrow as soon as Jack had read this he seized the trumpet and blew a shrill blast which made the gates fly open and the very castle itself tremble the giant and the conjurer now knew that their wicked course was at an end and they stood biting their thumbs and shaking with fear Jack with his sword of sharpness soon killed the giant and the magician was then a whirlwind and every night a beautiful lady who had been changed into birds and beasts returned to their proper shapes the castle vanished away like smoke and the head of the giant Galagantis was then sent to King Arthur the knights and ladies rested that night at the old man's hermitage the next day they set out for the court Jack then went up to the king and gave his majesty an account of all his fierce battles Jack's fame had now spread through the whole country and at the king's desire the duke gave him his daughter in marriage to the joy of all his kingdom after this the king gave him a large estate and his lady could live the rest of their days in joy and contentment and of the history of Jack the giant killer the black bull of Norway of the Blue Fairy Book this is a LibriVox recording all LibriVox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer please visit LibriVox.org recording by Scott Mather the Blue Fairy Book by Andrew Lang the black bull of Norway and many a hunting song and song of game and glee then tuned to plaintive strains their tongue of Scotland's live and lead to wilder measures next they turn the black black bull of Norway sudden the tapers cease to burn the minstrels cease to play the Cute of Kildau by Jay Leiden in Norway Longzheim there lived a certain lady and she had three daughters the oldest of them said to her mother mother beg me a bonnock and roast me a colop for I'm gone a while to seek my fortune her mother did say and the doctor gave a while to an old witch washer wife and tell her purpose the old wife bade her stay that day and gang and look out her back door and see what she could see she saw nach the first day the second day she did the same and saw nach on the third day she looked again and saw a coach and six coming along the road she ran in and tell the old wife what she saw a wheel for the old wife yarns for you said they took her into the coach and galloped off the second doctor says to her mother mother beg me a bonnock and roast me a colop for I'm gone a while to seek my fortune her mother did say and a while she gave to the old wife as her sister had done on the third day she looked out at the back door and saw a coach and four coming along the road the old wife yarns for you said they took her in and after said the third doctor says to her mother mother beg me a bonnock and roast me a colop for I'm gone a while to seek my fortune her mother did say and a while she gave to the old witch wife she made her look out her back door and see what she could see she did say and when she came back said she saw nach the second day she did the same and saw nach the third day she looked again and on coming back said to the old wife she saw nach but a muckle black bull come roaring along the road a wheel quotes the old wife yarns for you I'm hearing that she was next to distracted with grief and terror but she was lifted up and sat on his back and a while they went I they traveled and on they traveled till the lady grew faint we're hunger eat out to my right lug the black bull and drink out to my left lug and set by your leavings say she did as he said and was wonderfully refreshed and laying negate and ser they raid till they came in sight of a very big in bonny castle yonder we mon be this night quotable for my old brother lives yonder and presently they were at the place they lifted the night in the morning when they brought the bull they took the lady into a fine shining part of her and gave her a beautiful apple telling her not to break it till she was in the greatest ever mortal was in in the world and that would bring her out again she was lifted on the bull's back and after she had ridden far the night for my second brother lives yonder and they were at the place directly they lifted her down and took her in and sent the bull to the field for the night in the morning they took the lady into a fine and rich room and gave her the finest pear she had ever seen beating her not to break it till she was in the greatest street till they came in sight to the far biggest castle and far father staff they had yet seen women beyond the night for my young brother lives yonder they were there directly they lifted her down took her in and sent the bull to the field for the night Presently, they brought him the bull, set the lady on his back, and while they went. And I they gade, and on they raided, till they came to a dock in Uggsum Glyn, where they stopped, and the lady lighted down. Says the bull to her, Here, ye mon stay till I gang and fight the deal, ye mon seek your cell on that stain, and move neither hand nor fit till I come back, else I never find ye again.  She set her cell down on the stain, and by and by, all round her turned blue. Or come with joy, she lifted the eight foot and crossed it, or the other, say glad was she that her companion was victorious. The bull returned, and sought for, but never could find her. Behind she sat, and the eye she grat, till she was wearied. At last, she raised and gave the wow, she kedna huartil. On she wandered till she came to a great hill of glass, that she tried all she could to climb, but was not able. Around the bottom of the hill she gave, sobbing and seeking a passage ore, till at last she came to a smith's house, and the smith promised, if she would serve him seven years, he would make her iron shun, where she could climb over the glassy hill. At seven years end, she got her iron shun, clam the glassy hill, and chanced to come to the old washer-wife's habitation. There she was tell'd of a gallant young knight that had given in some blue-dee sarks to wash, and where washed they sarks was to be his wife. The old wife had washed till she was tired, and then she set to her doctor, and bathe washed, and they washed, and they better washed, in hopes of getting a young knight. But all they could do, they could not bring out the stain. At length, they set the stranger damazelle to work, and whenever she began, the stains came up pure and clean. But the old wife made the knight believe it was her doctor had washed the sarks. So the knight and the eldest doctor were to be married, and the stranger damazelle was distracted at the thought of it, for she was deeply in love with him. So she bethought her of her apple, and breaking it, found it filled with gold and precious jewelry the richest she had ever seen. All these, she said to the eldest doctor, I will give you, on condition that you put off your marriage for a day, and allow me to go into his room alone at night. And the lady consented. But meanwhile, the old wife had prepared a sleeping drink, and given it to the knight, what drank it, and never waked till the next morning. The lee-lang knight, their damazelle saddened, sang, O seven-lang years I served for thee, the glassy hill I clamped for thee, the blue-dee-shirt I rang for thee, and wilted out no walken, and turned to me. The next day, she kept no what to do for grief. She then brought the pear, and found it filled with jewelry far richer than the contents of the apple, with a jewel she bargained for permission to be a second knight in the young knight's chamber. The old wife gave him a neither sleeping drink, and he again sleep it till morning. All night, she kept sighing and singing as before. Seven-lang years I served for thee, the glassy hill I clamped for thee, the blue-dee-shirt I rang for thee, and wilted out no walken, and turned to me. Still, he sleep it, and she nearly lost hope all the gither. But that day, when he was out to the hunting, somebody asked him what noise and moaning was yonder here at all last night in his bedchamber. He said he heard nah, only noise. But they assured him, there was say, and he resolved to keep waking that knight to try what he could hear. That being a third knight, and the damazelle being between hope and despair, she brought her plum, and it held father's richest jewelry of the three. She bargained as before, and the old wife as before took in the sleeping drink to the young knight's chamber. But he told her he could not drink it that night without sweetening. And when she gave oah for some honey to sweeten it with, he poured out the drink, and say, may the old wife think he had drunk it. They went to bed again, and the damazelle began as before, singing, seven long years I served for thee, the glassy hill I clam for thee, the blue-dee-shirt I rang for thee, and wilted out no walken, and turned to me. He heard, and turned to her, and she told him, oah, that had befallen her. And he told her, oah, that had happened to him. And he caused the old washer wife and her doctor to be burned, and they were married. And he and she are living happy till this day, for all I can. End of the Black Bull of Norway. The Red Etten of the Blue Fairy Book. This is a LibriVox recording. All LibriVox recordings are in the public domain. For more information or to volunteer, please visit LibriVox.org. Recording by Scott Mather. The Blue Fairy Book by Andrew Lang. The Red Etten. There were once three widows that lived on a small bitter ground which they rented from a farmer. One of them had three sons, and the other had one. And by and by it was time for the wife that had three sons to send them away to seek their fortune. So she told her eldest son a day to take a can and bring her water from the well that she might bake a cake for him. And however much or however little water he might bring, the cake would be a great or small, accordingly. And that cake was to be all that she could gie him when he went on his travels. The lad gave way with a can to the well and filled it with water and then came him again. But the can being broken, the maced part of the water had run out before he got back. So his cake was very small. Yet small as it was, his mother asked if he was willing to take the half of it with her blessing, telling him that if he chose rather to have the hail, he would only get it where a curse. The young man, thinking he might hate to travel far away and not knowing when or how he might get other provisions, said he would like to hate a hail cake, come if his mother's malice and would like. So she gave him the hail cake and her malice and a lang wit. Then he took his brother aside and gave him a knife to keep till he should come back, desiring him to look at it every morning. And as long as it continued to be clear, then he might be sure that the owner of it was well. But if it grew dim and rusty, then for certain some ill had befallen him. So the young man set out to seek his fortune. And he gave other day and other next day and on the third day in the afternoon, he came up to where a shepherd was sitting with a flock of sheep. And he gave up to the shepherd and asked him, what a sheep be lying to? And the man answered, the red eten of Ireland unslived in Beligan and stole King Malcolm's daughter, the king of fair Scotland. He beats her, he binds her, he lays her on a band and every day he dings her with a bright silver wand. Like Julian the Roman, he's one that fears no man. It said there's unprecedented to be his mortal foe, but that man is yet unborn and lang may it be so. The young man then went on his journey and he had not gone far when he inspired an old man with white locks herding a flock of swine. And he gave up to him and asked, who swine these were when a man answered? The red eten of Ireland unslived in Beligan and stole King Malcolm's daughter, the king of fair Scotland. He beats her, he binds her, he lays her on a band and every day he dings her with a bright silver wand. Like Julian the Roman, he's one that fears no man. It said there's unprecedented to be his mortal foe, but that man is yet unborn and lang may it be so. Then the young man gave on a bit further and came to another very old man, herding goats. And when he asked whose goats they were, the answer was the red eten of Ireland unslived in Beligan and stole King Malcolm's daughter, the king of fair Scotland. He beats her, he binds her, he lays her on a band and every day he dings her with a bright silver wand. Like Julian the Roman, he's one that fears no man. It said there's unprecedented to be his mortal foe, but that man is yet unborn and lang may it be so. This old man also told him to beware of the next beasts that he should meet, but they were of a very different kind from any he had yet seen. So the young man went on and by and by he saw a multitude of very dreadful beasts, ilk and of them with two heads and on every head four horns. And he was sore frightened and ran away from them as fast as he could and glad was he when he came to a castle that stood on a hillock with a door standing wide to the wall. And he gate into the castle for shelter and there he saw an old wife sitting beside the kitchen fire. He asked the wife if he might stay there for the night as he was tired with a long journey and the wife said he might, but it was not a good place for him to be in as it belonged to the red eten, was a very terrible beast with three heads that spared no living man he could get hold of. The young man would have gone away but he was afraid of the beasts on the outside of the castle. So he beseeched the old woman to conceal him as well as she could and not to tell the eten that he was there. He thought if he could put over the night he might get away in the morning without meeting with the beasts and so escape. But he had not been long in his hidey hole before the awful eten came in. And nay sooner was he in than he was heard crying. Snock bot and snock bane I find the smell of an earthly man. Be he living or be he dead his heart this night shall kitchen my bread. The monster soon found the poor young man and pulled him from his hole. And when he had got him out he told him that if he could answer him three questions his life should be spared. The first was whether Ireland or Scotland was first inhabited. The second was whether man was made for woman or woman for man. The third was whether men or brutes were made first. The lad not being able to answer one of these questions the red eten took a mace and knocked him on the head and turned him into a pillar of stone. And the morning after this happened the younger brother took out the knife to look at it and he was grieved to find it to brown with rust.  So she requested him to take the can to the well for water that she might bake a cake for him. The can being broken he brought him in as little water as the other had done and the cake was as little. She asked whether he would have the hail cake with her malice and what a half we're blessing. And like his brother he thought it best to have the hail cake come or the malice and what might. So he gave away and everything happened to him that had happened to his brother. The other widow and her son heard of all that had happened through a ferry. The young man determined that he would go also on his travels and see if he could do anything to relieve his 12 friends. So his mother gave him a can to go to the well and bring home water that she might bake him a cake for his journey and he gave it. And as he was bringing him the water, a raven or a boonies head cried him to look and he would see that the water was running out. And it was a young man of sense and seeing the water running out, he took some clay and patched up the holes so that he brought home enough water to bake a large cake. When his mother put it to him to take the half cake with her blessing, he took it in preference to having to hail with her malice and yet the half was bigger than what the other lads had got altogether. So he gave away on his journey and after he had traveled a far way, he met with an old woman that asked him if he would give her a bit of his bennick and he said he would gladly do that and so he gave her a piece of the bennick and for that she gave him a magical wand that she said might yet be of service to him if he took care to use it rightly. Then the old woman who was a ferry told him a great deal that would happen to him is what he ought to do in all circumstances and after that she vanished in an instant out of his sight. He gave on a great way further and then he came up to the old man herding the sheep and when he asked whose sheep these were, the answer was the red Eddon of Ireland unslived in Beligan and stole King Malcolm's daughter, the king of Fair Scotland. He beats her, he binds her, he lays her on a band and every day he dings her with a bright silver wand like Julian the Roman, he's one that fares no man but now I fear his end is near and destiny at hand and you're to be I plainly see the heir of all his land. The young man then went on his journey and he had not gone far when he inspired an old man with white locks hurting a flock of swine and he gave up to him and asked whose swine these were when the man answered the red Eddon of Ireland unslived in Beligan and stole King Malcolm's daughter the king of Fair Scotland, he beats her, he binds her he lays her on a band and every day he dings her with a white silver wand like Julian the Roman, he's one that fares no man but now I fear his end is near and destiny at hand and you're to be I plainly see the heir of all his land. Then the young man get on a bit further and came to the very old man herding goats and he asked whose goats they were and the answer was the red Eddon of Ireland unslived in Beligan and stole King Malcolm's daughter the king of Fair Scotland, he beats her, he binds her he lays her on a band and every day he dings her with a bright silver wand like Julian the Roman, he's one that fares no man but now I fear his end is near and destiny at hand and you're to be I plainly see the heir of all his land. This old man also told him to beware of the next beasts that he should meet for they were of a very different kind from any he had yet seen. When he came to the place where the monstrous beasts were standing he did not stop nor run away but went boldly through among them. One came up roaring with open mouth to devour him when he struck it with his wand and laid it in an instant dead at his feet. He soon came to the Eddon's castle where he knocked and was admitted. The old woman that sat by the fire warned him of the terrible Eddon and what had been the fate of his 12 brothers but he was not to be daunted. The monster soon came in saying, snuck but and the snuck bane I find the smell of an earthly man be he living or be he dead his heart shall be kitchen to my bread. He quickly aspired the young man and bait him come forth on the floor and then he put the three questions to him but the young man had been told everything by the good fairy so he was able to answer all the questions. When the Eddon found this he knew that his power was gone. The young man then took up the axe and hewed off the monster's three heads. He next asked the old woman to show him where the king's daughters lay. The old woman took him upstairs and opened a great many doors and out of every door came a beautiful lady who had been imprisoned there by the Eddon and under the ladies was the king's daughter. She also took him down into a low room and there stood two stone pillars that he had only to touch with his wand when his two friends and neighbors started into life. And the hail of the prisoners were overjoyed at their deliverance which they all acknowledged to be owing to the prudent young man. Next day they all set out for the king's court and a gallant company they made and the king married his daughter to the young man that had delivered her and gave a noble's daughter to ilk onto the other young men. And so they all lived happily all the rest of their days. End of the Red Eddon.