That was a four one like the call to order the Tuesday April 17th 2018 Sheboygan County Board of Supervisors. Are we certified in compliance with the open meeting law? Yes the agenda was posted on the 12th of April at 11 a.m. Thank You John. We will now have the presentation of the colors by the Sheboygan County Sheriff's Department Honor Guard. And the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance. Thank You Honor Guard. Invocation. Relationship to the chairman this prayer will be nonpartisan. Holy One.  The source of all being and the bringer of peace. In this spring time of the year when snow still covers the land. As the days grow longer and the nights vanish more quickly we are grateful for the many blessings of the past and resolve to work for an even better future. Today we humbly ask you to enlighten any darkness in the hearts of those gathered here who have been entrusted with the grave responsibility of governing the people of Sheboygan County. May they resist any temptation to act out of selfish interests. May they seek the common good of the people of this beautiful county. Give them wisdom. They need to discern what is right and true. Give them the knowledge they need to enact policies which bring hope to the poor, the weak, and the vulnerable. Give them the understanding and goodwill they need to listen to one another in charity especially as they choose their leaders. On this April day when we are most aware of our temporal obligations may we not neglect the demands of the spirit. As they go about the business of the people may the members of this body commit themselves to listen to the better angels of their nature as they seek to do the will of the people. God of life may we not forget that our nation is still at war in far off lands. Keep safe those who have answered the call to serve their country. Hasten their return to home and family. With great sadness we graciously ask you to comfort the loved ones of those who have answered the call of duty and made the ultimate sacrifice in the defense of our nation and in the cause of liberty and justice. With the gratitude that can never equal their valor we honor the brave service of our fallen soldiers. And we pause now to commend them to you. Bless them with final peace and endless joy in the name of all that is holy we pray now and forever. Amen. Amen. Thank you Gary. It's going to cost me at least a dinner for sure. That's okay we're brothers that's how brothers are to each other. Okay roll call. There are 24 supervisors present. Thank you. Administration of the oaths of office. Judge Edward Stengel. Thank you. It's really my honor again to be here and to be able to participate in these proceedings. I've been coming into this building for a little over 40 years at this point. And many of you have served on the county board for almost that long. That was not meant to be anything to rock it. John said if I did this and I did a good job I could keep coming to the legislative breakfasts so I'm doing the very best I can. But it's really been my honor to be able to be a part of all this and to serve with you the citizens of Sheboygan County. And the part of that honor is to witness day in and day out the many great people that we have working for Sheboygan County who support the courts and who work in all the other capacities that support and provide for the citizens of Sheboygan. And certainly you people who have served on the county board and who will serve on the county board are a large part of that. I think Sheboygan County as I've gone around the state and talked to other judges is somewhat unique in the ongoing cooperative effort that we get at all levels of our government. And I think it is certainly a very important thing that we continue to work together and meet our goals in serving the citizens that have elected us to these positions. And I hope that we will continue to have all the support that we've had in the past. We owe a lot of our success to the cooperation and support of the people that we work with you with us and certainly the county board who has always supported us and the county administration. So with that is my pleasure to administer the oath of office. I'd like to have you stand. Please raise your right hand and when I indicate to please state your name. I trust each and every one of you know your name and you'll be able to insert it. And also when we get to the part where you indicate the district that you're representing. I and please state your name. Swear our firm that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the state of Wisconsin and the Constitution of the state of Wisconsin and will faithfully and partially discharge the duties of the office of county board supervisor district number to the best of my ability. So help me God and thank you very much for your service and the very best of luck. Thank you. Thank you judge. Next we have some introduction of department heads and introductory statements by the county administrator Adam. Thank you Mr. Chairman. Good evening. Good evening. It feels a little festive in the room tonight and as it should. What a tremendous evening. I want to really thank and welcome our guests and family members and it was a pleasure to meet Tom's brother and have him share some words as well as Judge Stangle to be here to give the oath and of course our sheriff's department always does such a wonderful job representing us through the honor guard. So thank you for that. Thank you Don Bruhler and Paul Gruber for stepping up and welcome to the Sheboygan County Board. Mike Oji also deserves a welcome back. Unfortunately he couldn't be here tonight. He had a conflict but we we welcome Mike Oji back and this afternoon we had the brief orientation with Paul and Don and I felt almost badly for them. We threw so much information at them in such a short period of time and I want to thank the county clerk and the corporation council, our IT director, our human resources director. We all got together and very quickly talked about rules and responsibilities, a very strong committee structure, the difference between resolutions and ordinances, Robert's rules of order, code of ethics, open beatings and public record laws, information technology and the extensive supervisor salary and per diem payments. Like any new job, it takes time. It takes time to get that experience and really to be good at what you do and I think Tom Wagner shared some really good advice as I've heard from a number of chair persons over the years. Don't be too hard on yourself. Take the time to listen and learn and lean on many of the very good people you are surrounded by. You know, Ed Stangle mentioned the experience of this county board. We have a number of highly experienced and respected county board supervisors and there's one on each side of you that no doubt would be willing to help you be successful. So please don't hesitate to reach out. And of course, this evening we're surrounded by our department heads and key management team and they as well are outstanding and ready to assist and do all we can to be successful. You know, we listen in this organization, we work together to problem solve and we deliver. This organization delivers Chairman Wagner and our executive committee, all of the liaison committees had a highly successful term the last couple of years and we have a lot ahead of us. But you are you are now part of an organization as you as you quickly may recall from this afternoon of 825 employees working with 19 departments administering $150 million budget over 207 programs and services. There is so much to learn in this organization. There are so many opportunities to problem solve. There are so many opportunities to help people indeed. And this organization has a track record of success. We're the eighth largest employer in Sheboygan County. People don't appreciate that unless you're part of this organization, following Kohler, Bemis, Sheboygan area school district, DMACS are gentle Aurora and Johnsonville Sausage. We certainly aren't striving to be number one. In fact, if you look at our staffing, we've gone from a high of about 1350 in 2003 to 825 today. We've had nearly a 40% reduction in our staffing. And that doesn't just happen. It occurs over time through thoughtful collaboration, streamlining, consolidating working together. I'm proud of our track record. I'm proud of this organization. And again, if you haven't been a part of it, if you're not part of the Sheboygan County family, it's tough to really fully appreciate the breadth and diversity of this organization. Quick snapshot, 19 departments, 19 departments administering $149 million budget, 48 million of property tax levy, the rest state, federal, private pay health and human services, $34 million operation over 40 programs administered there, the Sheriff's Department, $24 million operation, Transportation Department, $19 million operation and Rocky No Health Care Center, 13 million. Those are the big four comprised two thirds of our budgets alone. If those four aren't streamlining, gaining efficiencies, working in collaboration in the budget process, it's real difficult for the rest of the departments to make the difference up. The remaining departments building services, Clerk of Courts, Corporation Council, County Clerk, Court Commissioner, District Attorney, Finance, Human Resources, Information Technology, Medical Examiner, Planning and Conservation, Register and Deeds, Treasure Real Property Listing, University of Wisconsin Extension and Veteran Services. I can't imagine you being bored in this organization. There is so much going on, so many opportunities to make good things happen. It's complex. And really, as we've shared before, and I think as many of us lead by example, it comes down collaboration. We work together. The tone is set by the county board chair. It's set by our management team. It's set by each and every county board supervisor. We expect collaboration, helping one another be successful working together. Just some quick examples. And this was just during the last couple of years, just the last couple of years. We established the Amsterdam Dunes Wetland and Mitigation Bank and preservation area. Roger Distruty was chairman at the time. Tom Wagner was vice chairman at the time. Incredible accomplishment. We constructed a ring of fiber in partnership with the city and school district. We established an information technology disaster recovery system. We implemented through the courageous leadership of Chairman Wagner and everyone sitting in this room, the one half percent county sales tax to help maintain a safe and reliable transportation system, reduce borrowing, provide direct property tax relief, share sales tax revenue with other municipalities to help them be successful with their own transportation needs. That was courageous. And we are now poised for success as a result of it. The district attorney, I see Joel here today. This is a difficult person to get in touch with because he is busy as all of our department heads are. I am so proud of the work Joel's been doing. And the district attorney, as you know, partnered with the Health and Human Services Department. We added an assistant district attorney. Not many counties have done this. The county board did so. So we can focus more on children's welfare and permanency when it comes to adoption. Impressive. We established an opioid detoxification and treatment program. Tom Eggerbrecht and his staff and all involved stepped up. We're also proud of Judge Ed Stangle and all involved for their work with the Drug and Alcohol Treatment Court, as well as the good work by the by the Veterans Court and Charlene Cabuz here this evening. A lot of folks stepped up to assist with those two initiatives and they are far better alternatives to incarceration. Rocky Knoll continues to provide five star quality service. We established joint emergency dispatch, launched emergency medical dispatching. We're in the midst of significantly improving our courthouse security. We're offering more leadership development opportunities than ever before. We engaged our staff. We had an all employment engagement survey and summit recently recognized in the WCM magazine, if you didn't see the April issue. Back speaking of the magazine and Greg Schnell and Jim to be store in the room, we're wrapping up our work on the transportation complex consolidating three facilities into one. And despite all of our challenges, despite of everything we work on together to accomplish to improve, we continue to have healthy fiscal reserves. We continue to lead the state and being frugal with property tax increases and Wendy, our finance director and her team continue to be recipients of achievements of excellence and the excellent job they do with financial reporting. This does not happen by accident. I wish our reception would have been tonight, Mr Chairman. I think I may have aired on that. We should be celebrating success tonight and we will be next week following the county board meeting and all of our guests are certainly invited to come back. We should be celebrating success because it's the people in this room and our management team and our staff who make these good things happen. So without further ado, I'm going to introduce just a few of these good people, key leaders in our organization that we all rely upon to implement the policies of the county board and to administer the good work of their departments. I'm going to start from smallest to largest. I'm going to ask them kindly to go on the east side of the wall so all of our viewers at TV8 can see these folks and I will call them out one by one. So don't file up yet. One by one. Dave Lafine is not here this evening. He had some surgery. He's doing well, but our medical examiner is not here, but he has an annual budget of 202,000. He has four employees and 31 years of experience and as I go through this, focus on that experience a little bit. Charlene Cobb, I see with us our evening, our veteran service officer. She has a budget of 266,000, three employees, and she's been wishy-boying county now for 10 years. Carl Bizzing, our corp council, Crystal Fieber, I know had to leave. She just departed because of a conflict in Plymouth, but we have two strong corporation councils. Carl in particular has been here now for 18 years. He has a $323,000 budget, and though it says on this sheety as one employee, he really works with a law firm of I think eight, seven, and a lot of good people that all provide assistance as needed. Ryan O'Rourke could not be here this evening, our family court commissioner. He's on a much-deserved vacation. He has a $353,000 budget, three employees, four years of experience. John Dolson, our county clerk. Our county clerk has a $454,000 budget, three employees, and has been with us for five years. Cindy Sarcady. Cindy is our area extension director. She's a hybrid. A new approach by UW Sheboygan, UW Extension, rather. She has a $467,000 budget and three employees here in Sheboygan, co-located with UW Sheboygan. She's been with us for just under a year. Jean Gallimore. Jean is our human resources director. She has a budget of $592,000, five employees. She's been with us five years, and I would be remiss not to call out Penny Ellsner, who's probably working on something right now. Hopefully texting her husband saying I'll be home soon, right? Penny is our deputy HR director and does a tremendous job. Ellen Schleicher. Ellen is our register of deeds. She has a $636,000 operating budget, seven employees, and 12 years with Sheboygan County. Joel Armanski. Joel is our district attorney. A $1.1 million budget, 15 employees, and 11 years of service with Sheboygan County. Wendy Sharnon. Finance director. Wendy has a $1.5 million budget, 17 employees, three years of experience, though as you know, Wendy is involved with developing the county-wide budget, which is $149 million. Aaron Brault, Planning and Conservation Director. Aaron oversees a $2 million budget, has 14 employees and 11 years of experience with Sheboygan County. Chris Lewinsky, IT director. Oversing a $2.1 million budget, seven employees, three years of experience. Melody Lorgie. Clerk of Courts. Oversing a $2.1 million budget, 24 employees, and you would not believe this. 34 years experience with Sheboygan County. Drinking from the fountain of youth. Jim to Beast. Jim to Beast is our building services director. Oversees a $3.5 million budget. Oversees 30 employees, 18 years of service with Sheboygan County. Kayla Clinton. Rocky Null Administrator. $13.4 million budget. Oversees 160 employees. She's been with us just for just six months, but hit the ground running. Greg Schnell, Transportation Director. $18.9 million budget, 95 employees, 12 years of service, and of course Greg and Jim have just done a stellar job overseeing the complex and consolidating three facilities into one. Charles Sweet, is Charles with us this evening? Excellent. Charles is our airport superintendent. This was one of our consolidations. We consolidated the airport and highway into a transportation department. Charles oversees a $667,000 budget, has three employees and has been with us for four years. Sheriff Corey Raceler, $20.4 million budget, 192 employees, 27 years of experience with Sheboygan County. Inspector Jim Russo could not be with us tonight, but the inspector as well has been just outstanding in his 30 years of experience working with Sheboygan County. Tom Eggebrecht. Tom Eggebrecht is our Health and Human Services director. $33.6 million budget, 193 employees, nine years of service to Sheboygan County. Scott Shackleford. Scott here. No, I'm sorry. Scott had a conflict tonight. Shannon Otten had a conflict tonight. And Diane had a conflict tonight. Jackie Mogulski. Jackie is new to our team. Manager Division of Economic Support. So many of you probably haven't seen Jackie before. We were able to recruit her from Washington County and welcome Jackie. Oh, behavioral health. I had that written down here and read the wrong line. Could I borrow someone's glasses? Thank you, Tom. Welcome. Welcome, Jackie. And Tim Gessler. Tim is our manager division of economic support. That was an area where we consolidated with child support. And that was a separate department years ago. Another consolidation. And Tim stepped up and did an excellent job overseeing that and provided a smooth transition. He's been with us now for 10 years. Of course, I'm your county administrator. I mentioned $149 million budget, 825 employees. I've been here 19 years. Who am I missing? Laura. I wasn't going to introduce Laura tonight. Laura Henning Lorenz is our county treasurer and without her, none of us get paid. I am so sorry, Laura. Welcome, Laura Henning Lorenz. Let me see where I skipped over you. I got to go back here. Did I skip over anyone else? No, I just skipped your name. A $765,000 budget, 8 employees, 15 years with Sheboygan County. Did I miss anyone else? Thank you for pointing that out.  This is a rock solid team. And on that note, you may be excused. Thank you. Let's put our hands to the phone. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Adam. Thank you for all you do. And thank you to all the department heads and elected officials on behalf of the full board. Thank you very much. Next, we have adoption of rules chapter 2, which we do every two years. Now, as the memo said, there are no changes. So at this point, I'll look for a motion and a second. Supervisor Wagerman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will move that we adopt the resolutions as presented. Thank you, Supervisor Wagerman. Supervisor Koch. A second that motion. Thank you, Supervisor Koch. Is there any questions or discussion? Any questions or discussion? Seeing none, we may all vote. Please push your aye or nay button. Since the previous unanimous thing. Thank you. Next, I'll turn the elections over to our very capable Corporation Council, Carl Bissing. Carl? Mr. Chair, you need to turn it over to the clerk who has to turn it over to me. I'll turn it over to the clerk, then you can give it to Carl. All right, then the clerk directs Corporation Council to conduct the election of chairperson, vice chair person, and executive committee members. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. All right, what you do on our organizational election. I used to conduct this according to the usual method. However, last term you codified the usual method into a written format, so now I have to follow a script. So, we are going to elect a chairperson, a vice chair person, and three additional executive committee members. The first task I have is to appoint three election tellers from among the department heads. So, those department heads who didn't leave are at risk. First of all, I'll appoint Wendy Sherman, our finance director, so that they will be counted properly. I will appoint Aaron Walt, our planning and conservation director, so that they will not be wasted votes. And I will appoint Sheriff Corey Riesler. No, not because we want to make sure it's done right, but because he's the most junior department head, so he gets stuck. So, I would ask that the tellers come to the teller table. The organizational election shall be conducted by secret ballot. It's the only opportunity you as supervisors can essentially to use secret ballots. Then your tenure as supervisors, everything else pursuant to the open meeting law must be publicly recorded. But you do get secret ballots here today. So, the first vote will be for the office of county chairperson. And I would entertain nominations. The first vote in each election for a given office shall be the nominating ballot. The corporation council shall display the result of the nominating ballot and shall ask all supervisors receiving at least one vote if they accept the nomination. So, shout them out from the floor, or do we nominate by secret ballot? Secret ballot. Secret ballot. So, do they have their secret ballots? They do. All right. Then those supervisors can regularly use, they want it for nominees. According to our new rules, you get one vote per ballot. That's now in the rules. You do not have to. County board chair nominating this is a pastel routine workout with the Kertie Fielder that she had to leave. And I'm not going to do it by myself. That doesn't work as well. Not doing that. Do we have any non-needs? I won't get the counter to it. I want the names. How later? Supervisor Weigler. The majority of them are non-needs. Supervisor Marthensi. And Supervisor Koch. Supervisor Koch. How many nominations does Supervisor Weigler have? Twenty. How many did the Supervisor Marthensi have? Two. How many for Supervisor Koch? One. All right. Now, do any of you three wish to decline your nomination? Supervisor, Koch is declining his nomination. Anybody else? Will it be an opportunity for debate? Do you have strength for anything? No. No. In that case, you decline the nomination. Now under these rules that you have enacted last month, we have to vote again. Because this was just the nominating ballot. Now we are into the election ballot. Wrong one. We have one candidate. But there may be a right ends because it is a secret ballot. These are your rules, ladies and gentlemen. Tellers that it is unreadable, contains extraneous verbiage, or marks, is blamed for his cast for a name not the nomination will be classified as an abstention and shall reduce the number of votes passed by one vote. So be careful. Telling you name time with the A or B, right? Twenty-four. For who? Twenty-four votes for Supervisor Weigler. I declare and certify that Supervisor Weigler has been elected chair person of the Chewagon Public Board. Take care of that. Nice question. Yes. Twenty-three ballots for the nomination. Because somebody chose not to nominate somebody. You'll have to nominate somebody. Thank you. All right. Vice chairperson, vice chair, entertain nominating ballots to nominate somebody. Give your secret ballot to the teller. In the interim, please sign your oaths before you leave tonight. Thank you. Two nominees for Vice Chair. First one. That's your rules. We now have first round voting on the solely nominee. We may want to revisit this in our rules. Extraining this verbally not nomination. Surely classified as an abstention. One abstention. Okay. One vote for Mark Hennessy. That's abstention. And twenty-two for House. Twenty-two. I certify and declare that Supervisor Hatch has a majority in his elected vice chairperson. Number one. This is completely out. You took those. I got nothing. I am a superintendent. He had a little bit of work this past weekend. Thank you very much. Sunday morning and return from Milwaukee. Sunday later in the afternoon. And it got much better when I hit the Chewagon County line. So I like that. How about the airport? Did we get that out clean up on the primary track? Charles, do you still here? Supervisor Effing. Supervisor Siegelbauer. Two. Two. They're damp. Supervisor Dam. Supervisor Geary. Supervisor Geary. Four. Four. Supervisor Mark Hennessy. Supervisor Benz. One. Supervisor Glavin. Supervisor Glavin. Three. Supervisor Hoffman. Supervisor Hoffman. One. Two inns. Yes. Two inns. Supervisor Cotton. Supervisor Atten. One. And that's Supervisor Procek. Supervisor Procek. Five. See, now it gets entertaining. Ladies and gentlemen. Don't beat me to gel jokes. All right. Do any of the nominees choose to decline in the nomination? Supervisor Marthensy, you're declining. Anybody else? Supervisor Atten. You're passing. Thank you. This is executive number one. So if you come to executive number two, if you decline it on one, are you still eligible for two? Sure. Okay. If you want to be inconsistent, that's fine. Well, I'm just saying. Yes. Yes. So. Or you can change your mind between that lengthy period of time. Anybody else wish to decline in the nomination? Skim none. I would ask you to vote. Round one for executive seat number one. Supervisor Upping. Four. Supervisor Ziegelbauer. One. Supervisor Ziegelbauer. One. Supervisor Dam. Three. Supervisor Dam. Three. Supervisor Gehry. Four. Four. Supervisor Gehry. Four. Supervisor Glauvin. Three. Supervisor Glauvin. Three. Supervisor Gossler. One. Supervisor Huffman. One. Supervisor Prochak. Seven. Supervisor Prochak. Seven. I do not believe we have a majority. Okay. Now I believe we drop off the name. Right? Let me read this again. Attorney Supervisor, I'll continue to cast one vote per ballot for one of the names placed in the nomination for the office ad election by writing the last name and on the note. We do not drop off. We continue to vote. We'll have to revisit this. Oh, it does today. Here are your rules. Supervisors. Yes. Does anyone wish to decline? Supervisor Zicklebauer is declining so far. Before that time. Now I know the supervisor power has, we have 23 supervisors present. Still need 12. Supervisor Albin, two. Damn. Supervisor Dan, three. Supervisor Glavin, two. Supervisor Huffman, one. Supervisor Prochak, ten. As I indicated, the majority is 23 divided by two. Ron Taram, three. Does any of the nominated candidates wish to decline at this juncture? If you declined at this juncture, please proceed to vote for an all-in-three. Supervisor Albin, one. Supervisor Dan, two. Supervisor Dan, two. Supervisor Gehring, five. Supervisor Gehring, five. Supervisor Huffman, one. Supervisor Huffman, one. And Supervisor Prochak, 14 there. Supervisor Prochak, 14. Zero. Zero for Glavin. Supervisor Glavin, zero. All right. Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. You've kept me prepared to write on to the next sheet. And so, congratulations to Supervisor Prochak. That is elected Executive Committee Seat Number One. We're now on to Executive Committee Seat Number Two. We have nominees for Seat Number Two. Who do we have? Supervisor Siegel, two. Huffman, one. Supervisor Huffman. Supervisor Gehring. Supervisor Gehring. Eight. And Dan. Supervisor Dan. On to Round One, Executive Committee Seat Number Two. Supervisor Siegelbauer, Huffman, Glavin, Gehring, Effing and Dan. Supervisors want to hear Supervisor Howard say. Can we get that to happen or not to this? Thank you. Seat Number Two. Yes. Siegelbauer, two. Supervisor Siegelbauer, two votes. Huffman, one. Supervisor Huffman, one vote. Glavin, three. Supervisor Glavin, three votes. Gehring, eleven. Supervisor Gehring, eleven votes. Effing, five. Supervisor Effing, five votes. Dan, one. Supervisor Dan, one vote. Does anybody wish to withdraw the nomination? Supervisor Siegelbauer. Anybody else? Round Two, Round Two. Thank you, Supervisor Siegelbauer. Your choices are Supervisor Hoffman, Supervisor Glavin, Supervisor Gehring, Supervisor Effing, and Supervisor Dan. Only vote one, so they can get on them. All right. Supervisor Hoffman, one. Supervisor Hoffman, one. Supervisor Glavin, two. Supervisor Glavin, two. Supervisor Gehring, 15. Supervisor Gehring, 15. Supervisor Effing, four. Supervisor Effing, four. And Supervisor Dan, one. Supervisor Dan, one. It appears that Supervisor Gehring has a majority, and the other two are attracted to the other. I'm always wrong. All right. All right. You have Hobbler, one. Supervisor Hover, one. Now, if you had some, it might have been. That was someone who were working for us. Supervisor Effing, seven. Supervisor Bosman, one. Supervisor Bosman, one. Opponent, two. Supervisor Hoffman, one. And Supervisor Glavin, three. Supervisor Glavin, one. Supervisor Bosman, declined. Does anybody else decline? Who's been on the decline? Supervisor Hover, declined. Thank you, gentlemen. Professor Bosman. So your candidates are Supervisor Gamm, Supervisor Zigglemower, Supervisor Effing, Supervisor Hoffman, and Supervisor Lavin. You're not taking my treatment. I'm an activation person, too. I think we should place them under arrest. Yes. Supervisor Damp, six. Supervisor Effing, five. Supervisor Effing, five. Supervisor Hoffman, two. Supervisor Hoffman, two. Supervisor Glavin, three. We are on to problem two. Does anybody wish to decline in validation? Supervisor Effing, I'd like to encourage those. Thank you, Supervisor Effing. I'm going to go down there. It'll be written next. Supervisor Glavin. Thank you. Thank you, Supervisor Glavin. That means Supervisor Damp, Supervisor Zigglemower, Supervisor Hoffman. Supervisor Zigglemower, 11. Hoffman, two. Does anybody want to decline? Supervisor Damp, nine. Supervisor Zigglemower, 12. Supervisor Zigglemower, 12. Supervisor Hoffman, two. Supervisor Hoffman, two. Finance director, am I right in thinking that 12 is a majority in a group of 23? I would declare Supervisor Zigglemower the winner of the third seat on the second seat. Okay, real quick. Dick Beamer said I have 45 seconds and no more to say. No, I'm just kidding. I will keep it very short. Thank you very much. I said on the radio a couple of months ago, there is no I in county government. I sincerely believe that. It's all about we. I think when we succeed, we succeed together. And I want to thank you for that. I did want to make special note of my two brothers who are in the back. Father Gary, thank you for doing the invocation. And my other brother, Jim, is there from, he does live in Mantua County, but we still like him. That's all right. And actually, Jim is a coach at Two Rivers Basketball for 20-some years. He's a Hall of Fame basketball coach. Very proud of him. And my wife, Susie, thank you very much. He coached Aaron Brault, by the way, Aaron. You could talk to Aaron about that. So small world. And thank you, Susie. So, Vern. Thank you. I'm honored and humbled to be selected the vice chairman for the county board. I look forward to working with everybody over the course of the next two years. And I will do the job to the best of my ability. Thank you. Thank you, Vern. And I, too, would echo to George, thank you for your service as vice chair for the last two years. Thank you very much, George. Next, we have a adjournment. So if Supervisor Beemus would... Thank you, Supervisor Beemus. Is there a second? Supervisor Obler. Mark, missing? Right. I vote... Thank you, Supervisor Obler. I wasn't worried about that. I don't think there's any discussion, so please push your I button and we will stand adjourn until next Tuesday.


trade what you see with Larry Pezzavento call now toll-free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER> now Larry Pezzavento okay folks posted a chart here of Jim Bartolioni he's on stock charts quite a bit and also all star charts with JC parrots and Jim's gonna be our guest next week he was the one that told us about a month ago you know about the 382 pattern in the ABCD structure in the regional banks and of course they had a huge break and some of them have broken then we'll never come back but that's what we're watching right here folks what happened during the break here was I did get the phone call from Steve's doctor and Steve had come out of the coma and he was talking to me and so I got to talk to him again and I had to remember what happened to me about 15 years ago my very dear friend Bob Gammillion who ran Wilshire coin and was part of the people that was one of the four coin dealers that were working with the Laverne Redfield collection back in 76 when I was a Drexel and Bob was on life support and the family could not turn off the machine so I drove over to Beverly Hills to turn off the machine and I got in to the room and the family changed their mind and and so I said okay I said whenever you want me to do it and so two weeks later Bob came out of the coma and he was never the same but he was still able to function for another ten years passed away happily but you know his mental facilities were probably at 60% at best but the most amazing thing folks believe it or not when they told him that I came over to pull the plug and we had made an agreement together that we would do it for each other he didn't speak to me for a month and we spoke every day and we finally made amends to it and stuff but that reminds me of some of these things that are happening let's get back to the markets because that's what's what's very important we got a caller talking to us about believe it or not platinum we haven't seen a platinum chart since Hector was a pup and let me get it up here so we can take a quick look at it and I see it here where is it platinum platinum where are about here it is right here here's platinum and he is saying we were talking about the old 382 here today and you'll see in platinum look what happened I want to bring it up you'll be able to see it look at that beautiful 382 that stopped right there on the money and then bada bing bada boom you went right up here well when a 382 happens folks we know that that's part of the structure that we love so dearly and that's AB equals CD the only bad part about this chart is it comes from Boston Dan and I happen to be a big Boston Celtic fan and then I was flat out upset I kept looking for Larry bird in the stands but he wasn't there they just played terribly but Philadelphia played so good that they deserve to be the big winner here but getting back to the chart you can see the 382 led to the ABCD up to the top and now it's back off a little bit this is the same pattern that we were looking at in the gold and I'll bring that up again because it was another one that was pretty much as spot on as you can possibly as you can possibly ask it I'll bring it up here because we happen to be be short right before the break it hit our price objective and then of course went up I didn't get the I didn't sell it there because I was busy doing other things and stock indices and currencies but you see we went right up to the 38 the 61% retracement of this high right here but the important thing is that's 78% of that high but the high up here is the real high that you have to take remember that when we got up there to that 2084 you have to take that too because that's the real high that's the high of the market this is a secondary high that leads to this ABCD that comes down here at the 78% level and then we had the short right here there was our profit objective right here to 382 and then you run the 35 bucks straight up to the state level here and now we've come down moving lower so it's we're getting more and more information now that the gold and silver may have top now this could be related to the US dollar or not because remember the US dollar is currency does not backed by anything it says for the full faith in government of the United States well try to take that to the bank if they don't want to take it in Mexico you know that they don't even like to take dollar bills and paper money in Mexico anymore that used to be a premium and not anymore nope they use their telephones and stuff like that so it's a it's very very it's a little scary actually when you when you look at it that way so let's take a look at silver since we're talking about the get this up here to take a quick look at it then we'll get to the stock indices a little better here a little bit because it's really important today day today folks when you hit these numbers so perfectly and then the market reacts the good part is if it comes back and and closes really strong that tells us this was a major bottom and we're probably going to be looking at higher prices so we've only got a couple hours to go we're still down I think what did I saw there were three of the the CAGS indices yeah there three of the four are still down but we'll see whether that's gonna mean anything or not anyway as you see here this was the 78% level here in the silver we've been waiting for that for quite some time you'll notice that that was the perfect ABCD right up there that's 26 20 I I really believe and I'm in my heart and I believe me I've been bullish silver since I was since I've been in this business I think that someday we're gonna once we clear $55 an ounce half a you know that's that's a hundred percent move from where it is right now you'll see silver I hopefully that's on my bucket list somewhere between 75 and $100 an ounce that'll put gold somewhere around 3500 because if this paper money stuff keeps going on this I know the block chains are supposed to be 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here in just a moment and down the stretch they come here it is folks there's your 382 there was your first 382 right here there's your second 382 right here at 4135 your risk has got to be above here but look at this beautiful ABCD to the downside 382 rally and then a perfect a b c d coming in right here and that's where we are coming up right now so I think that that's what we're looking at it's a pretty quick one but that's the way they are sometimes so that's a 382 off of the high it'll either work or it won't the risk on it is about 10 points profit objective would be at least 20 so sometimes they work sometimes they don't the only one that has not worked today has been our little piggies and I want to get to that to show you what happened because don't the natural gas didn't work either but the pig trade we just get this up here because I know most people and they're not trading hogs even though they're traded quite a bit by the funds but let's get this up here in the pigs here and we'll see we had the first 382 retracement it rallied about 400 bucks and it it did come down and hit this level here it hit this level right here which is no longer 382 you see this was the 382 that worked and then so the next 382 would have been up in here somewhere but it didn't what did it do it came down to this level which is 50 percent I didn't want to risk anything on that so I had my stop at break even and I would be able to say to the priest thank you for the confessional and move on and I'll see you in a few weeks but that's what I would do I forget about it soon as you soon as you have a losing trade you forget about it that's what you have to do baseball players when they have a three strikes you think that they're thinking about the two strikes that they just had no they're thinking about what to do next and that's what you have to do in trading you gotta forget what happened in the past folks that the past is BS that doesn't mean anything it's no good at all you know that's uh that's the main thing let's just cover a couple I think I've already covered the bonds and I did the S&P and I did the Dow I did those I'm sure we've got those all covered the Euro I need more time here on the Euro because this is a really important pattern because it's the most actively traded thing in the world and I mean world because it trades about a trillion bucks a day you'll see we had a beautiful A, B, D, A, C shucks an A, B, C, D set up right down here now we made a slightly lower low over the previous day here on the night okay we took us out by a couple of pips and then we rallied up to our next sell point right here well this was during the report and what I did is I just personally I I didn't want to give anything back and so I put a stop right in here and then when it got back up to the 382 again I went ahead and resold it again made a little bit but you know we're still short from this from way back here that's a that's a big A, B, C, D over the last five days you know with virtually no risk of around 300 bucks you've made five times you're almost five times your money on that and that's what the floor trader handbook proves to you if you listen to that video long enough that these A, B, C, Ds they work do they work all the time nope but nothing else does either so let's remind ourselves of that now let's take a quick look at the natural gas because this is another one that did not work and I want to get this up here because you got to show the good and you got to show the bad and we'll get it up here and you'll be able to see it there was your buy here if you see four or five days ago we have the nice rally up here was the the positive thing if you remember Mike Moore said there was real positive outlook for the first few days of the week here in the crude oil gasoline and natural gas and natural gas crude oil gasoline and heating all of them were positive and so they were a buy on Sunday night and we went through those series of 382s and they were just they were they were really impressive even if you don't believe in Fibonacci and looked at it you'd have to say well that's not I mean that's not by accident I mean these were so to the point folks I'm talking about one or two ticks to the exact number of something that you know trades for like crude oil trades $71,000 for a contract I mean these numbers work you know do they work all the time nope but they work most of the time and there it is so this is what we've had happen now so what my game plan is here you probably you probably have an A, B, C, D pattern forming here in the natural gas and it probably got down to maybe the 50% so what I'm going to do here is when we get back from the break I'm going to upgrade the natural gas one and then I'm going to update the hog one so you can see what happened when these patterns fail because when they fail that's just as important as when they work because pattern recognition tells you one thing that you have the odds in your favor because they repeat over and over again and they do it in a way that is very very sensitive to these patterns of A, B, C, D which is nothing more than Mandelbrot's fractals Gartley's fractals and also these algorithmic boys if you don't think these algorithmic boys know these numbers you better think again because those those fellows there on top of their game I wanted to re-enter talk a little bit more about these treasury bonds because this was a big thing that's going on right now with this debt because there is a possibility that maybe they won't do anything that they I'm not going to say anything about the government there's your three drive to a top pattern this goes back to the last 10 years appears where they were telling us that look all you have to do it's going to have negative interest rates but it's going to be really good because we'll have no inflation and we're going to hold your money for you and we're going to charge you a fee for it but we're not going to be able to guarantee that you're going to get your money back so let's figure that one out by a little back in the envelope math the people that were putting this out and one guy from the University of Pennsylvania I forget the name he's a PhD Nobel Prize dude said get ready for negative interest rates and when I heard that I said maybe I'm seeing something wrong but as you can see the market is broken down with this big A, B, C, D there was your pattern and we're waiting for a weekly 3A2 at their 138 to sell that but that is that is just absolute foolishness it it really is I just never could figure that out and I I have some people that are really smart that told me yes it's going to happen because of the treasury bonds and the Chinese buying and the Japanese buying and all the other stuff and I said no no no no no I said I don't have to figure that out too much to realize that that's not probably going to be what's happening so that's pretty much it now here is the hog trade I want to get this up here we'll see it before the break which is good and then we'll have Paula T on the horn and just a little bit there as you'll see we went right down to our level there in the hogs and I decided to take a what we call this you take it take your sister to the dance so you got to take her to the dance the dance is over and we go back and sit on the sidelines again and we wait for another trade so we're going to take a break here and we'll be back with Paula T web gold report as a precious metal gold is still king it continues to hold the most effective safe haven and hedging properties across the global major trading hubs of the london otc market the us futures market and the shanghai gold exchange the gold report tom obrien publishes his weekly gold report every monday morning for subscribers consisting of coverage of the xau hui gdx the dollar bonds the south african rand as well as 25 different mining equities with specific buy sell recommendations the gold report new 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paula tweb douglas on the line paula how are you today doing good doing good how about you i'm still living the dream paula is going to give us a little exercise and what money really means i'm i'm going to give a little prelude first uh when you guys moved here on august the 16th of 1996 uh you know mark worked every day here with me in the office uh for six years and one of the things that i used to do is i had a thousand dollar bill on my desk we got him at the federal reserve uh byron and i we got a thousand dollar uh we each got two each and then we got a five hundred dollar bill mckinley's on a five hundred in cleveland is on a thousand so i had that thousand dollar bill there and mark says why do you have that there i said to remind me that it's it's real money that's being traded remember 96 now you could get all the money flashing up on your screen how much you were making and the first thing that mark said was take that function off and he explained it uh well well i'm going to take give you back the thunder because you know what the story is so why don't you tell him pt well i mean when when when traders aren't connected to the very money they want to grow then that's when they consistently lose all right um as as we've talked about before you know mark stood on michigan avenue trying to give away free money and people walked around him like he was nuts and because they didn't believe in free money and traders don't believe in free money either and since as traders you know we're we're basically just pointing and clicking a mouse we're not actually quote working hard physically to make profit so sometimes there's a conflict there it's like well all i'm doing is pointing and clicking my mouse and i just made a thousand dollars um so there's that work ethic involved and you know that that plays that that plays a part in in how much we win or lose and as i did said earlier take some money out of your wallet and look at it and really look at the money that you have earned look at the money that you are taking in profit and connect to it in in a way where you haven't previously um when you became a trader you got into trading to make money period that's the only reason we got into trading any of us is to make money and yet when when you don't look at your accounts you don't look at your statements then you're disconnected from the very money you want to grow so you don't know your money and so you can't grow your money so you have to keep this in mind you made a promise to yourself i'm sure most of your traders out there made a promise to yourself i'm going to make more money as a trader whether more money from your other career or just more money in general how how well have you followed through on that promise to yourself ask yourself that and be honest and this is what my next book is about making promises and promises lost and promises failed and what does that mean as traders you made a promise to make more money whether it was just to yourself or to your family and you're not fulfilling that promise so you have to ask yourself why and that's because you're not connected to your money that's what it all goes back to trading is about money i don't care what everybody else on the internet is telling you it is about the money that's it so you gotta you gotta make that all right in your brain you gotta align that in in your thought processes that it's okay to make more money it's okay you remember well we've said this on the other show before that uh robert st john when we traded on the floor of the murk he was he stood next to tom uh tom baldman for what eight nine ten years wasn't it that they worked a long time long time yeah and uh it was just really amazing and tell the folks how much money he carried in his uh in his in his money clip is he had a rubber band basically what it was how much money a minimum of eight to ten grand yeah every day in hundreds money every day every day because you know why he was connected to every penny that he made as a trader once once once he worked with us i mean he was a boom and buster and that's when he came to us to work with us and once we got him back on track he was so connected to his money he loved money he loved making money he loved spending money he loved sharing his money you know he was a very generous man he was a lovely person and probably one of the best bond traders ever and but he he connected to his money because he wanted to grow his money and he went from like i said having two mortgages on his house and ready to get divorced within one year of working with us he was up i think it was two to three million dollars with everything paid off he was he was profitable two to three million dollars because he was connected to what he wanted to grow and that was his money i remember when he was in pismo beach uh visiting us when you guys came out together he stayed with all of us were together for a week and he traded every day with us and rich Anderson was there and he averaged a quarter of a million a day yeah so he made a million he made a million two for one week and we were only working two and three hours a day because mark only wanted him to trade the first hour of the day which was the most important for him and he worked basically an hour and a half to two hours if he worked a full day he'd give a he'd give a hundred grand back so he figured that out right away he had to do something different but they only worked an hour and a half to make that kind of money but folks he was trading large sizes he would put on 200 bonds and add 200 and add 200 it was not unusual for him to have 500 bonds on and so he was it was really quite special so tell us about the book when you when will it be when will it be out well i've got some workshops coming up this in the next couple months a couple of my own and then i've been invited to do a workshop in charleston in august so i don't think the book will be out till probably end of the summer but um it's going to be called the sagacious trader and it's the new wave of trading psychology and how you need to approach your trading in today's world climate especially with the presidential election coming up which is always pretty squirrely time for the markets so it should be really good it's it's going to take this a little bit deeper and a little more lots more stories that that bring home the point of having the right mindset is really the way to go now i got a stupid question what what does sagacious mean it means thought-provoking ah there's where you get an italian to try to make him think it'll never work hey listen thanks for joining us we'll have we can't remember the name of the book but you know maybe that'll help me i know it's got a weird name hey listen thanks for joining us and we'll have you on again soon okay yeah anytime tell the folks how to give me your phone number give me your phone number seven six oh tell them that phone number please seven six zero six three six four two nine zero seven days a week and polytweb.com okay well she's like me we never stop working because we're never working we're always playing that's right pt we'll talk to you later see you soon you bet okay let's get back to work here we got to do a couple little things here we got a trade on and let's just see what it's doing we sold the s&p at forty one thirty five it's got a four point loss in it's let's just get the oh i'll get the chart up here just a second because we want to follow it as we're looking and there is where we sold it let's get it up here hold on one second one second one second one second remember we have a 10 point stop on this boys and girls there's where we sold it right there and now what we're going to do is we're going to look at what it's doing right now and that should be right behind it somewhere i hope and there it is and as you can see we are underwater a little bit but that is all part of trading and we'll get this up here and there we are right there now when we if we get above here we get above this level here we know that there's something probably wrong so we sold it here we're going to put our stop at 10 points above that so let's just double check to make sure what that that is that we sold it at 35 okay so our stop being being as wild as it is today we have to risk 20% sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument you have to practice sure but you also need excellent instruction from experts at tfnn you'll get advice and guidance from the authority and technical market analysis and it's not just dry tedious text either tfnn airs live financial content streamed live on tfnn.com and tfnn's youtube channel with tiger tv live every market day from 8 30 a.m to 4 p.m eastern for free each host is an experienced trader and gives their take on the market while taking calls and questions live from around the world from the moment the market opens until the 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traders and active investors distributor four side fund services LLC this program is brought to you by Vista Gold traded on the NYSE American and TSX under the symbol VGZ okay folks I didn't run the AI uh before I put the trade on which sometimes I do sometimes I don't I believe in the 382 no matter what you can see the 382 on this one was just absolutely spot on and I didn't know this I didn't run this because I was too busy doing getting ready for the other show and doing some other things but you come down and you make your ABCD to the downside you make another ABCD down to the next one exactly 1.27 of that swing and now it says we're going to be up the rest of the day now we sold this at 41 35 put a stop at 41 45 folks only risk 10 points because the odds are it might get above here by a little bit but not too much and with only an hour to go in the day it's it's frankly it's 50 50 but you just never know it's still down so it can still move a little bit lower from that level so that's why I'm going to do it that way and believe me we we don't have we don't make money on all the trades we make money on some of the trades but again and we're going to be out of I just saw the beeper almost go off but it didn't but 41 45 would be there it is right now and just uh that one didn't work boys and girls um you can call my law firm it's do we cheat him and how the number is five two zero five five five five five five five and ask for Luigi he's the head uh legal expert there at the firm of do we cheat him and how so that's what I would have done so I'm glad to see this gives you another chance to to play the game one more time and so that's important to me because these lows and highs that we have are so perfect Fibonacci wise that it really really makes really makes a big difference now let's take another look at one of them that was also um that was also on the 382 that was uh just absolutely spot on today and it's working uh really really nicely to the tune of uh several several hundred bucks let me get this up here to first of all let me draw in the draw in the ratio because I know a lot of people will say that didn't happen we'll get this up here and it is basically the soybeans eventually these soybeans are going to go up and it might not be in my lifetime so let's get it up here and we will have it in post-taste as they say in the trade and here it is right now this was one that worked extremely well we posted it as it was happening this morning because it was happening just when we were on the air and there it was right up at the 382 and now you can see it's uh breaking down if you did the work in the wheat uh wheat did exactly the same thing now the wheat we didn't quite get a chance to update it but if you look at it closely and I think you can you'll be able to see the 382 up there at 644 and now we're trading about a nickel nickel under that so we're that's how we keep an eye on these grains and try to figure out you know where we are this you know trading is simple but it's not easy uh mark always said you know simplicity beats complexity and that's really what you want to try to do is to keep it that way I don't know if you though some of you folks here that this is Tom O'Brien's show but if you have never heard of the book by Tom Hougar the best loser wins it's basically he learns how to lose that's because just like a slot machine it says on that slot machine in indelible link that you can't read as you I have no chance of beating me long term and I've taken in $1.2 million more than I've given out but if you can get behind that machine and learn how to play like that machine does you're going to be better off because you got to be thinking how much money can you lose so if it says 350 three quarters you put in three quarters or three dollars whatever your amount is that you want to risk risk that you may get lucky you may not get lucky but that's all you're going to risk because you have no chance of beating it our game is different because we have some tools that make it easy to to see and see how it works so anyway that's that's what you got to do you got to think like that but anyway if you don't have that there's a paper that he wrote called the best loser wins it was a prelude to the book and when the publisher saw that title the best loser wins they went crazy for it over there in the uk and it's become a bestseller they sold way over 50 000 copies on the first printing and boy that's a that's really really a big thing for a technical book in trading and it's become very very popular so you ought to get the book I think it's 45 bucks and it's worth it but if you want the paper it's a three pages about you know losing and what it's about and from that he expanded to to bring out this book that is uh it's really quite spectacular just larry at trading tutor.com and I will paste it out there and fire it away so you'll be able to see it so one more time I want to bring up here this is the thing that you want to pay close attention to because if we close above this number today and if we close above this number today and we hit some pretty important numbers on the downside this is the dow Jones remember we hit this again last night and we backed all the way you dropped 500 points folks and look where we are now we're coming back very very strongly towards the last hour of the day and should we close above here and should we close above here that means that we are going up and probably a lot higher than some people might think just stop and think of this in the context of the e-mini s and p and what it's done okay remember just put this up here we'll be able to get up here and see it was one second and there's where we go okay there was the 786 we came all the way down here okay to this level right here I didn't check to see if that was a 61 percent retracement or not and I am going to do that right now so give me a second here and we will take a quick look at it and tell you whether it was or not and let me move this around and put up a uh 60 minutes so I can see it okay now we're going to see where we are uh oh this is going to be interesting hold on I got to clean it up just a tiny bit and then we're going to go from the high shut the front door and raise the rent a little misses it by a heartbeat let me get this up here so you folks can take a quick look at it but it missed the fib point the 61 percent retracement by four points and that's what gave it that last boost because it's still bullish as long as they can get above that and let's just get it right here so you'll be able to see it and we'll get right up to it and then when I get ready for the break here I'm going to update it and show you where we were and there's where we were and where we've been since then we'll be coming up shortly and that will be right here there it is and we'll get it up here and you'll be able to see we missed the 61 percent retracement on the way back by two points 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right here and you see why you can't be really bearish in here folks because this is a really strong trend and my goodness even today the pullback off of that high stopped right there at the 61 percent retracement now we started getting below that then you got trouble in River City but River City is still not ready this thing is still very very bullish if you remember gold when it was 1818 before it went to 2070 that's that's the same type of pattern that that you're looking at so don't get too bearish in here but you know swing trading sure you can sell and buy against those numbers but longer term this is still extremely bullish I don't I don't I don't I tell people that so I hope that they believe in now the Russell looks bad the Nasdaq look bad the Dow Jones it still looks as good as this one does but but the other two that Russell and the Nasdaq still don't look quite that good but that's neither here to there but we've we've got the Nasdaq has actually moved up today and I think that the S&P is up now today only one down right now is the Dow Jones so that's what we're paying attention to here dear as we're seeing some of these things unfold here this morning so I certainly hope that helps and remember tomorrow we'll be back on the air with both shows and hope we'll be able to bring you some good information like always so live every day in an attitude of gratitude and may god bless