...on supporting the Government of Indonesia in their very successful efforts to reduce deforestation here. You will have seen the recent WRI figures showing Indonesia, one of the few countries in the world where the rate of deforestation is coming down. So it's a fantastic testament to the work that the Government of Indonesia are doing on deforestation. And we are definitely keen now to do more work on blue carbon and on mangroves. In our work here we have four key principles and then I will hand over to my colleagues. One is that we work alongside, in support of and with our Government of Indonesia colleagues. We normally display a very small role supporting Government of Indonesia policy. Very often, sometimes actually sat within the Government of Indonesia. For example, one of our programmes has been ten years sitting inside Kahlaka. It's a little seed of help to our colleagues and partners in the Government of Indonesia. So that's the first thing that everything we do is in support of Government policy here, Indonesian Government policy. The second thing is that we try and work where we can very closely with communities. If the communities aren't on board then none of us are going to make any progress. And especially around livelihoods. If local people can't see a value to their livelihoods of the type of work we're trying to do, then it's almost definitely doomed to failure. The third thing is we try to work with a very holistic approach. So certainly South Kalaman Tan where we've been working with a lot of our partners in this room. We have a landscape approach. We're trying to look at the whole of the peat dome and see how together a series of initiatives can try and make a really genuine progress. I'm sure that's the approach we should be taking in the coastal environment. Not picking out tiny bits but looking at the whole of the coastal environment. Both the terrestrial near coast and the near sea as well. And fourthly, I think the really key thing is to be long term. Projects that last a few months are not going to make a lot of impact. Projects that last just a couple of years probably are not going to reap anything like the benefits they probably could. When I look at a programme, if it's less than five years I don't read the contents. I go straight to the duration and if it's less than five years I just ask for it to be revised. Because it stands very little chance of making any really sustainable meaningful progress. So I'll leave it at that. Manchester UK Government is very, very keen to expand our work in blue carbon, especially around mangroves. And we are longing to find opportunities to work alongside our colleagues in the Government of Indonesia. Thank you. I think we need to give a big applause for this statement. Very relieving statement. Before I go further, I just wanted to explore the same kind of question for everybody. Is the Norwegian Government perception about blue carbon and what will be done in the future related to specifically for blue carbon? I know the Norwegian Government is very strong for the green or red plast, but is there any specific strength or new coming programme for blue carbon? Please. Thank you very much, Pak. First, thank you very much for the invitation. I'm very honoured to be in an event with so many experts on blue forests, blue carbon. Growing up as an inland village boy in Norway, I was not very much exposed to blue forests when I grew up. I did work in a tree nursery and I did help my parents to plant trees, but I don't think those plant trees would stand a chance in salt water. My fascination came from being introduced to mangroes by reading detective books. I was reading about the hardy boys and they went on adventures in the exotic mangroe landscapes, where they also met exotic wildlife like crocodiles. I kept my fascination when I was working with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, but then we only looked at this from a resilient side. We did not very much look at this from the carbon sequestration side. Now I feel very privileged living in Indonesia, in the home of the largest mangroe forest in the world, and also having the chance to go and explore and work with these landscapes and communities, which are so valuable and so vulnerable and so beautiful. This is a great learning experience, but I guess that you're most interested in the official government policies. You know us mostly in Indonesia for our climate and forest cooperation, which is the largest bilateral cooperation between the two countries, but the second largest is our marine cooperation, and that is also the one that is growing the fastest. We very much recognize that mangroes and related coastal ecosystems are critical for the well-being of people, as Tom is pointing out, and the planet, and they are key to reach the goals of the Paris Agreement and also the sustainable development goals as this event very much recognizes. Then we also see from the Norwegian side that mangroes and the coastal ecosystems do not receive the attention they deserve for too long. So we are very happy to see this conference, give them well-deserved attention in the Indonesian context. On the Norwegian side, last year our government presented a white paper on the place of the oceans in our foreign and development cooperation. This white paper proposed blue carbon or blue forests as a priority, and we see this as a natural continuation of Norway's engagement on red plus around the world with other countries like Indonesia. We are following up this white paper now on different levels that would mean we at the embassy will have to do our share, and also on the highest possible level our prime minister in December decided to establish a high level panel on building a sustainable ocean economy. That is on the highest possible levels. She has invited heads of states to participate in this panel, and we are very excited that President Jokowi has accepted the prime minister's invitation to participate, and together with prime ministers and presidents from other important coastal nations like Australia, Portugal, Mexico. The minister of maritime affairs and fisheries, Ibu Susi has already actively contributed to this panel, and we are very excited to see what they will deliver for the benefit of our shared oceans. Back to the mangroves. They are, as we see, the most effective carbon sinks, more effective than the terrestrial forest that you are already working on, and they should belong in our bilateral cooperation. For like this, it's easy to have a particular focus on the carbon sequestration, but also we will work with partners like the UKCCU with our development partners in Indonesia to have the landscape focus and to have the focus on the people and the communities. I am sure we will get questions from you later, so I think I will save some more examples for now, and give some time to the other speakers. Give applause for Park Chris. Before I give a comment, I would like to directly invite Ibu Aseli Caterina from USAID. I think you would like to have some music for your song. We can use some slides. Slide presentation please. While they are preparing, can you... Slide, so that's it. Ibu Aseli. I also, okay, I think here we are, you can directly answer the same question what the US government perceive about the blue carbon and what have been done in the past and what will be in the future blue carbon kind of project or activity. Please Ibu Aseli. So probably it's better to give a little bit overview about the USID. So you know where I see it under the USID Indonesia program. So with the government of Indonesia, we have what we call it five year strategy plan. So our five strategy plan is developed jointly with the government Indonesia and other stakeholders. So that's true, a lot of consultation process at the national and also local level. And then under the strategy, our marine and fisheries program fit under the environment office portfolio. And the environment office portfolio actually in Asia we have six sector and I'm only representing one sector by the marine and fisheries portfolio. Out of the six sector that we have under the environment office, there are three actually related sectors, the forestry program. I think our colleagues from the USID study program already say something about their program.  Actually we also partner with the ICCTF on that one. And then we have the marine and fisheries portfolio that I would like to share in this afternoon session. So can I just stand up and then... Five to seven minutes if it's okay. So my title of the presentation is Protect Indonesia Marine Biodiversity. It's critical in safeguarding Indonesia's future. Actually not only safeguarding Indonesia's future, but protecting Indonesia's biodiversity is very critical to our regional folks and we also have the impact globally and I'll explain it later on. Next. So we have a big component marine biodiversity program. But when we design the program, we not only focus on the protecting the biodiversity, but we also consider the climate change impact and the adaptation. And then we also try to balance between the utilization and also conservation efforts in Indonesia. So that's why we have a sustainable fisheries management component under our program. And then we also want to use the opportunity to expand the economic opportunity at the local for marine tourism. Of course we would like to promote something that is sustainable both for the system, for the people and also for the business. So this is our approaches under the marine portfolio. Next. So in order to achieve our program because we want to integrate between marine and fisheries, in the past we have one single project that's dealing only on the marine conservation and then the other project dealing on more fisheries. But under this current strategy we try to integrate between these two components. So we work in the most biodiversity provinces in Indonesia. So this is the hotspot of the global hotspot of marine biodiversity in the world. So we work in the three provinces. North Maluku, Maluku and also West Papua. These numbers are taken from our recent assistance working with the national government and local government in developing the provincial marine spatial plants. So this is our targets under our project. So our ecosystem, our primary ecosystems are coral reefs, seagrass and mangrove as you see, the majority of the mangroves are located in West Papua and then I'll take an example from our West Papua work. So in terms of the technical approaches, we use as much as terminology that the government in Indonesia has right now. So we divided our technical approaches into four components. Marine protected areas, ecosystem approach to fisheries management, spatial plan and also a law enforcement. So that's the four technical approach that we have. Next please. So in the three provinces because this is so huge, we cannot cover the whole provinces. So when we identify where we need to work on, so we have the gap analysis and then track analysis. In terms of the gap analysis for example for MPA, we see a lot of investment already in West Papua on the MPAs that for example for Raja Ampat, we only do small activities in the marine protected areas, but we do more MPAs activities for example in Bintuni and South Sorong working with our implementing partner WWF and then we are working in the Fak Fak area with the conservation international and then our North Maluku work is led by WCS and then for Maluku is with the Coral Triangle Centre and then actually we have a coordinating, implementing partner, the TETRA Tech on this regard. And then that's our primary partners, but actually we are working with 15 organizations including two universities in West Papua as well. Next. So this is the example. I took this example because we are talking about the blue carbon, actually it's green from above. So this is our work that we've tried to establish mangrove-based conservation in Bintuni. Bintuni is located in West Papua and then also since we have tried to integrate between the management of the fisheries and also the conservation. So we work also on the fisheries aspect and in this regard the primary fisheries activities in this area crabs, shrimps and also baramundi. The interesting thing for baramundi, they only take the swim bladder because it's very expensive and then they export for China. So mostly small scale fisheries, small scale fishermen, traditional tools and in the past actually in this area there were shrimp trawlers but because it's banned in 2014. So many people see from the industrialized fishing to more small scale and it's also give opportunity for the coastal community who lives in this area to have a better economic income. So we work also with the crab fisher in the middle. So there's the crab, mud crab and then also this is a type of boat that the community use, very small scale. And then we just recently did an assessment in this Bintuni Bay and then we found about like 27 mangrove species and then 5 associated mangrove species and also found many charismatic marine animals like dolphins, crocodiles also. So it's a very interesting place but we also aware that other developments are also happening in the Bintuni Bay so we also need to work with the other sector as well. So actually in the Bintuni Bay, the Ministry of Environment and Forestry, we already started to protect some of the mangrove forests in that area. And then under the development of the Provincial Marine Spatial Pan of West Papua we also work with together and then plan to establish and in addition to the Kailhaka Conservation Area is about 200 mangrove-based protected areas. Next slide please. This is the Bintuni Bay, this is the profile of the Bintuni Bay. So this information is taken from our book that will be launched during our Oceans Conference but I had mentioned that one. So this is the information that is available in our book. So there are three volumes and very informative especially about where we work, what will our intervention, what our targets. So this is one example from our side in Bintuni Bay and then we have the baseline for MPA because still no MPA right now so the ranking is still zero. So we use the Ikape-Tigaka, it's probably your familiar with. So we try also to track the progress or improvement of management of the MPA using this tool as well. Next. So in the world of fisheries intervention based on the assessment I think someone mentioned about the consistency of the data collection, the standard, the analysis and etc. So we work with the Minnesota Marine Affairs and Fisheries Center specifically with the Fisheries Research Center. So we establish together the data base so all the data are being stored in the Minnesota Marine Affairs and Fisheries and we work together how to analysis and then later on when we have a better time series that can come up with the harvest strategy of our specific species. So in the fisheries we work on the stock assessment, IFIS, there's the database platform that the government Indonesia has a new name, I forget I think EBRPL. And then in Eastern part of Indonesia the customary laws are still very strong so we try also to incorporate into the management system and then we work with the government to improve the log book and the compliance of the log book. We have also a small scale facial registration because we also want to understand how much is bought out of the water and then also have them to get the Catepinalayan fishery cards. So that's the fisheries. Next. So talking about the conservation and fisheries, I think people are more interested to talk about the cash or about the money. So this is where the money goes for the crab fisheries. So we study the crab supervision analysis. The production in the Bintuni Bay in 2016 is about 500 tons. So it's 50% of the shrimp production actually, but the price of the crab is so high. So even this is a small scale but the value is very high in the Bintuni. So the majority of the good quality as always products coming from any sectors will be exported out the country. So the majority target for crabs are Malaysia, Singapore, Thailand and China. They usually transport to this country through Surabaya on Jakarta. Next. So this is just the hardest part actually when we are developing a project or a program in Asia to set up the right indicators. But this is actually just to show you a number of factors that we are trying to protect. We have other indicators, how we measure the behaviour change, how we measure the income level, the compliance to the regulations on a policy. The picture on the left is actually our team from I believe WF when they are doing the survey in 2017. So what I want to conclude. Next slide please. I'm very pleased by Jamal to be here among the carbon members. I'm not the carbon expert even my initial start we see. But I think even we come from different angles. I think they are protecting biodiversity and work in other programs as well. We can complement one to another. I think the good things that we can use this platform is to find the synergies among development partners, among the governments and other countries. So we can have a greater impact, especially Indonesia for our. Thank you. Excellent. Although it's taking a bit longer. But anyway, I have many notes here for USAID. By the way, your name is Celi Caterina. Let's move. This is like antonnes in the afternoon. Tony Wage. I would like to ask my question. I know that ICTF started with green dimension. And I believe also that driven by donors in the beginning, the mission maybe to more to climate change mitigation in terms of green carbon. How far the ICTF will move in the right direction? Kejala ni. Here at a time nice. ICTF yet to bring green carbon. That's very challenging question. But I believe you can answer this one. You do have presentation, right? Slide by Tony Wage. OK. Well, thank you so much. First of all, Pa Jamal Jomba. So if he mentioned about CC, so I will call him JJ Jamal Jomba. So Pa Jamal. That is a very good question. If I may, can I get back to you with questions about ICTF and I'll just give you some sort of a brief background picture of what we were thinking about the blue carbon issue here. So yes, please, if you could go back to the slide. Just a picture to give you an idea that potentially, again potentially we have this much, the numbers is very important, but just take the 17%, 3.3 x 10 to the 15 gram carbon of what we call the reservoir of the carbon of Indonesia representing the 17% of the global carbon reservoir of Indonesia. This number is very much debatable. Of course you have an excellent team of experts here that can debate this number. Yet I want to show why I want to show this, is the importance of Indonesia in the global picture. Yes, this is very nice, very important numbers, but also very staggering, because if you think about the rate of deterioration of the degradation of these ecosystems, because of the blue carbon ecosystems, is also very alarming. This number could change at any time in terms of years or maybe millennium or something, but of course we have to think about not just this number but the rate of degradation. Just about this degradation, I just did a little calculation by JJ. We have on average about 17 to 18 million cars and this is data in 2014, coming cars coming to Jakarta every day. That number, the emission of the cars, if we take that total, will surpass the rate of degradation of the mangroves and seagrass if you think about the 11 million car per year that can be equivalent to the rate of degradation of these blue carbon ecosystems. I think when we think about blue carbon, yes, we can think about the carbon, but please think about the conservation as well. Pa Daniel, I commend you for hosting and also coordinating this event. I've been doing this in over almost 10 years, promoting blue carbon, since I was in the Middle of the West in Viserys, but this is by far the most successful one, quantity and quality. I see here Emily, it went back some years ago when we started this, but the idea here that I want to highlight is what we need to think as a collective. I agree with you Patom, this is not donors and recipients, but we are all partners to save what we have in Indonesia. Can I have the next slide please? I'm sitting here representing the ICCTF, Indonesia Climate Change Trust Fund. The only trust fund dealing with climate change and the only trust fund that the Indonesian government established to support the objective of Indonesia's climate change issues. I'm grateful that we have people here, but they're also sitting here with me, partners that have been helping ICCTF. Don't worry about the numbers, but I just want to pick the 76 projects that are on the top left of the slide. This is the number of projects that ICCTF have done since 2010, and only a handful of these deals with blue carbon. To answer your questions, yes, now we have to make a bold movement towards the oceans or at least towards the coastal areas. Most of these are land-based. Out of 76, how many related to blue carbon? Only five or six. I'll get to the next slide. Most of them are land-based and mitigation adaptations, as well as energy sectors. We are talking about the climate change. What about the coastal area? Like I said, I just picked four or maybe five or six projects. One in Riau, Kalimantan, and one in the two in Kalimantan, and also in Belicom. We are dealing with mangrove ecosystems, and thanks to our partners here sitting with me, Pat Tom, you have been very supportive in helping ICCTF to bring the issues of conservation of the mangrove area, especially the coastal area, as well as grant that we receive from the USAID. But the point here is that all of these projects are dealing with community livelihood, ecotourisms, conservation, replanting of the mangroves, and also we are thinking about livelihood of floating cage, such as in Kotawaring in Barat. So the idea that we have from ICCTF is, yes, we have to do this conservation, but how is by through helping the communities they are living nearby the ecosystems itself. The rest of them are mainly terrestrial. This is our project of ICCTF. Only a handful of projects are dealing with the coastal area and coastal communities. And we have to do more. We are planning on this couple of projects here in North Slavia and in Nusatangara Barat as well. But again, community as well as trying to help with the livelihood and the policy. So I'll get there. So can I get the next slide please? So this is part of the introductory part by JJ that I just want to introduce to you the initiative that ICCTF has been mandated. I need to reiterate that ICCTF is a government working unit established by Bapanas. And as a working unit in Bapanas, we are also mandated to help the government objectives. And with Bapanas now, ICCTF has been tasked to roll in the idea of what we call the Blue Carbon Strategy Framework. The Blue Carbon Strategy Framework is a policy initiative. So I'm trying to divert this with the scientific initiative because there are so many of them. A lot of people here in this room are doing the scientific aspects. You are doing a great job. But in terms of the policy, this is what we also have to think because from the discussion before, I'm hearing from the presenters that yes, you need the government initiative. You need the government support. And I hope this Blue Carbon Strategy Framework will become the initiative that can mainstream for this initiative. If you are talking about Bapanas, then we have to deal with the RPAJMN, the midterm development plan for five years, which then needs to be translated into the next RPAJMN, the annual one. And also, what we have to do is strengthen the collaboration between ministries. So at the beginning, to the mandate of Bapanas, ICCTF will help coordinating the coordinating ministry of maritime affairs, Camancomar and Bapanas, working closely with the two closest sectoral ministries, namely Ministry of Environment and Border Forestry, KLHK, as well as Ministry of Marine Affairs and Fisheries. So, J.J., this is just an initial idea that I just want to touch because there are other people that talk about this also, but I'm open to talk about the IBCSF. So, again, thank you so much for having me here on the platform. I commend Pa Daniel for this. Looking forward to the discussion further. Thank you Pa. Big applause for Pa Daniel. I feel relieved now to know that ICCTF is moving to the right direction. Our last speaker for this session is Marcel Silvius. He is an Indonesian representative for the Global Green Growth Institute. Time is yours. The slide to Pa Marcel. Thank you very much. Because of the time for Marcel, I didn't realize that we only have half an hour left for the discussion also. So, it is up to your wisdom to manage your time. Maybe not more than ten minutes, please. I will take less than half an hour. All right, thank you. I promise. Yep, by representation. Thank you very much. It's really a pleasure to be here. Although GGGI, I have to say, the Global Green Growth Institute is not a donor. Of course, Pa Tom also said to the Government of Indonesia we are trying to help where we can. We are helping with this planning process. I just saw Pa Madriil coming in. So we are helping a little bit with the RPGMN, the next five-year plan and looking at the sustainability of that also in the longer term. We are helping Forest Management Unit establishment and business planning for them. For instance, in East Kalimantan and Central Kalimantan. But we are not doing anything specific on blue carbon, I must say. But I do hope that in the RPGMN blue carbon will get due recognition. And that's one of the things that we as a peer reviewer of the results we will be looking for. Also in the East Kalimantan our East Kalimantan work with TNC. We have other partners where we are strengthening the FMUs. We have also been working on the Emissie Reduction project document for the FCPF of World Bank where we hope to generate through better planning business-based forest management and forest restoration. We hope to generate in terms of performance-based payment something like a hundred million dollar that will provide an incentive for all local stakeholders to put more effort in the conservation and restoration and sustainable management of the forest resources. And again, blue carbon is part of also of that. But then in addition to looking at that performance-based payment we believe there is more need also for generating upfront funding to do this work. And we hope that actually the performance-based payment that's hanging there in the market we could perhaps create things like peatland bonds or mangrove bonds that will provide upfront money to make investments that will enable private sector to come in and also enable public-private partnerships cooperation between government and private sector. I think that's very important in these coastal landscapes. This is in the Asmat Minica region in Papua taken from a plane. It's one of the largest mangrove areas in the world. Very little studied, very little known but of course a huge carbon store but even more and that's why carbon, blue carbon it's a very nice title somebody this morning said it's a nice PR instrument blue carbon but the real value of mangrove lies in its productivity in terms of fisheries, wood but also in the coastal protection so the resilience it provides not just for climate change but also for all the threats that are there out there already in terms of storms and other things that are happening in the coastal zone. So I have a few slides indeed so I will now stand and take the other microphone. Yes. Just to show the next one. Just to show the importance. Again we've seen several figures. One of the figures we developed with the mangroves that represents something like 63 coal-fired power plants. The degradation of the tidal marshes 16 coal-fired power plants and the seagrass degradation 39 coal-fired power plants. So in total these coastal areas represents almost 100 coal-fired power plants in the world and that's every year. Peatlands of course are the world's biggest carbon stores by far outweith this but you also have to recognize that a lot of the coastal ecosystem including mangroves are based on peatlands and you can't separate these things and one of the things that is happening in policy is that these things are separated and that mangroves are just seen as a little stripe of land on a map and are not seen in the context of the landscape. One of the things that GGI is doing worldwide is indeed developing certain mangrove oriented projects but we don't call them like that we call them coastal zone projects because we're looking at the entire coastal landscape by just saying we're going to protect this mangrove forest from logging or other first conversion impacts that's not enough you have to see also how the mangroves relate to the inland area for instance if you block off the fresh water flow into the mangroves by for instance building a road or a dike the mangrove will be killed and you can have a nice greenbelt own policy but it's not going to help so when you are planning coastal zone development or any development in the coastal zone take account of your coastal ecosystems. Next one. I mentioned there's a lack of really effective regulations there are a lot of regulations in Indonesia and also in other countries in the world but they're not effective. Often people don't even know who owns the land or who governs the land is it the Ministry of Environment and Forestry or the Ministry of Marine Affairs and then there's the local government that battles for these resources often you see illegal land acquisition people just convert it and say this is my land and then they get a certification of that so that's really interesting so the old race of the inland hydrology is a key impact the ground water extraction we saw from Mr Pahendra earlier today the huge areas of coastal erosion on the north coast of Java why is this eroding so much it's the ground water extraction from industry in the coastal area the muck is subsiding by 15 to 20 centimeters a year it's not just Jakarta also the muck that whole region and the mangrove and the sediment accretion in these coastal areas don't keep up with that land subsiding so you're losing your mangroves you're losing your land you are forcefully evacuated not by government but by the sea they are being washed away they have to migrate out of it that really represents a huge cost to society a social cost environment cost and economic cost but also when we buy tiger prawns on the market most people don't know these come from the intensively managed aquaculture ponds on the coast which often have been developed 90% I would say developed at the cost of mangroves so the public is not aware of how they actually relate to the coastal areas and how their purchasing power is actually impacting that next one please it comes at a high cost loss of livelihoods, land erosion high cost of mitigation measures in terms of dykes by diversity reduced resilience of coastal communities so there's really a need for enhanced governance in these areas next one limited awareness so policy and regulations need to start to be developed in such a way to support the production systems that can be developed in conjunction with mangrove restoration and conservation at the moment those policies are lacking because they're only looking at the mangroves they're not looking at the whole coastal zone and we have to take account of the whole coastal zone some of the activities and international activities such as Aquaculture Stewardship Council and the Marine Stewardship Council actually provide very good frameworks for such policy development and I would encourage everyone to look at their criteria and principles next one please so coming to finance then why are all these destructions happening, why is the conversion happening, well the banks that are providing a lot of the finance to the private sector in the coastal region generally don't have very much of an idea of what's happening there they don't have the awareness of the knowledge on coastal management sustainability management they try perhaps to be in compliance with social and environmental safeguards we have very little expertise and definitely not focus on the coastal zone as a result very difficult very easy to secure funding for unsustainable developments in the coastal zone but very difficult to get funding for the much more risky perhaps in the beginning a more difficult and smaller scale green growth development possibilities in that zone so there's a need to redirect that financing okay next one please so our needs is GGI is just that we originate projects, we design them we structure projects and the finance instruments environment and social safeguards and ensure that the focus is also on inclusive development so a lot of the attention will be on the communities and not just on the larger companies next one please next one we'll move on a little bit quicker next one so the role of the donors or the partners is to refinance or redirect the finance flows how can we assure that there's more money going to sustainable initiatives rather than unsustainable initiatives that requires awareness it requires principles and criteria frameworks, it requires policy reviews in this sense and requires also help to the finance sector itself in terms of the banks to create that awareness in these finance conglomerates ensure that they know what they're doing in these coastal landscapes there's a need for de-risking the alternative developments often people just think if we give a little bit of money and time to a coastal community they will restore the mangroves for us but for them it represents a huge investment in terms of their time and their efforts and then they are not sure if they actually are going to harvest the positive results from it because they don't have a land tenure in it or they have other insecurities so they need to be de-risked in their efforts and then I'm sure communities can play the key role in mangrove management and restoration and in the economic development of that coastal zone so de-risking of particularly small-scale community-based, business-based enterprises in the coastal zone I think is a crucial way forward for Indonesia so Indonesian government and partners can invest in public-private partnerships we do need to have also a larger private sector involved and that needs specific attention but again what the partners of the government particularly could do is help with a settlement of microfinance facilities at the moment they are very limited of those around in Indonesia remarkably few microfinance possibilities communities do not therefore have access to this kind of funding and that's where I think the donor community really could make a big difference and I would encourage them to look then also at how they can collaborate with particularly the local banks to get these established so we invest in business models and plans for green coastal development, there's a lot of very good examples in Indonesia for community-based coastal zone restoration involved in Francis Silver Fisheries we heard nice examples from Pan Yoman earlier this morning I think there needs to be specific attention in Indonesia to supporting industry to take on and adopt the principle criteria of the marine and agriculture stewardship councils there are great possibilities for development of sugar industries and alcohol industries also for ethanol for Francis for transport as an alternative biofuel NIPA is one of the most productive plant species around in the world but it's hardly used and it's not developed at implantations although there are very good innovative techniques developed over the last 10 years that make a really viable product and more productive than most other biofuel crops in the world and then there's the need for building the nature approaches in dealing with many of the coastal zone friends last but not least I think the partners can help to ensure that there's transparency in the planning process in the policy processes of the government particularly on the social and environmental risks of development as well as underneath to build in safeguards social and environmental safeguards in the project, thank you thank you Marcel, give a big applause for our last speaker today college my friends ladies and gentlemen unfortunately we only have 15 minutes left for the discussion I believe so many people would like to raise their hands to be honest I would like to give everybody opportunity to express please this is not your time to do a presentation so please be very sharp quick and only the most important issue and no further explanation so please raise your hands and identify yourself and straight forward start from and the three in the middle only three we start with three please the third question is what is the future of the LOI of this bilateral agreement and just one short question on mangrove management in North Maluku I looked at the one picture of creatures like crabs and lobsters getting entangled in this network of mangroves to what extent can they benefit as a business to the local population you talked about having them being exported but to what extent has the amount made last question hello my name is Mul Tantra from Green Forest based in Singapore I managed the largest mangrove concession in the world actually located in West Papua Indonesia in Bintuni Bay and that has been going on for 30 years anniversary so before USAID went there we were already there so the questions really is related to any kind of donor help for sustainable use of the resources which I have not seen before whether there is something to think about because it allows a sustainable impact for maintaining the mangrove forest for many many many many years to come I would like to give actually an opportunity to everybody to respond some of the direct question but some of the indirect question is considered as a closing statement so please I start from Tom Owen Edmonds from UK Climate Change Student can you give your response to the questions arise from the audience and also this is considered as a closing statement thank you lovely thank you shall I do one about partnering I'm not entirely sure why you had to do that every time you said partnering that's how we operate here for many decades we have an extremely close relationship with the government here level of partnering here so maybe we can talk outside but I'm a bit surprised to see that hand signal used throughout your question in terms of why is nothing being done on blue mangrove I might hand that over to when she has her chance because there's a lot going on I'm aware of a really excellent USA program called The Starry who are doing incredible work down in the Momeca mangroves and have been for a long time but I believe that a tallest mangroves in the world an incredible extent of mangroves and they've been working there for a long time I believe the USA C program are also doing a lot of work on blue carbon so there is a lot of work going on by many people in this room already on blue carbon I can say that we as UK are not doing very much at the moment on blue carbon and we would definitely like to do more so that's an answer to your question in terms of a closing statement all I would say is that I think good things can happen quickly over this two days we will have a lot of problems laid out to us a lot of obstacles actually when you look at when a country like Indonesia decides to focus on something they can get very very positive results very quickly I look at illegal timber exports which are now pretty well down to nothing first country in the world to qualify for due diligence free exports to the European Union an incredible example to the world I talked about the deforestation rate we talked about fires going down Indonesia can, I'm sure will do something very profound on blue carbon and this is a fantastically welcome step along that path thank you blue carbon being covered by your bilateral partnership I will try to answer your question at the same time so the commitments on the international level towards the UNFCCC including the nationally determined contribution and on the tools that are developed by the Indonesian government so we are I have to say that we are at a very exciting time of this partnership so Minister Sita Nurbaya has been a driving force to transform the forest sector in this country to reduce their missions she has expressed that she thinks we will soon enter the results based payment we have an official indications numbers on forest covering Indonesia that if they can be verified they could potentially trigger very large payments under our bilateral partnership just to answer your very your question about the spending so when the agreement was signed it was an agreement that 20% of those up to up to 20% of those 1 billion dollars could be spent before we reach the results based payment cycle so we have spent around 15% of the totals of $150 million on the direct bilateral partnership in addition to that there are programs like the global green growth Indonesia program like the AN Green fund which is targeting Indonesia like all our civil society partnerships that are funded by the European operation in Indonesia they don't count so we can at least double that amount for what our investments are in Indonesia so far and those numbers will increase significantly as soon as we have the verified emission reductions as soon as the funding instrument is in place and as soon as the safeguards instruments are in place so we are very hopeful that we very soon will reach the third phase of the partnership and much payments will flow into the Indonesian forest and forest protection work then to go to to the mangroves so or blue forest and blue carbon blue carbon is to some extent already included in our partnership the Indonesian fell which we of course also build upon and the MRV system is estimating emissions and uptake in mangroves above the ground so carbon stored below the ground is not included yet that would of course trigger enormous payments if that could be included and we are open to looking into that certainly but that requires a lot of work on the Indonesian side and I think in our partnership it has been agreed to focus now mostly on the peatlands in the first part and then medium term also looking at more of the blue carbon and in the meantime I think I just want to commend some of the provinces and maybe East Kalimantan to start with because they are taking this work further when they are developing their first carbon partnership facility program they are working hard on mangroves as well which could potentially buy if they are able to reduce the uncertainty in the uptake on carbon in the mangroves they can of course also trigger larger payments so this is an incentive for the province and for the national government as well and very happy to see that East Kalimantan is working so closely with the ministry on this because this can hopefully serve as a pilot for when we are taking the partnership to the next stage so then finally what is the future of the lateral intent that is not up to me to say that is up to the politicians I think to decide upon but we have a hope that we can do as we did in Brazil where the first billion dollars was transferred into the Amazon fund where the funds were used and invested in reducing the deforestation and the emissions further and then our parliament provided additional funds so that we are now in the second phase of that partnership and that is of course our hope here at the embassy as well for the future cooperation, thank you Okay I'll continue, I think there are two questions that are related so I tried to address the first one is on the economic value of the fisheries in North Korea if I'm not mistaken actually the pictures are taken from West Papua in Bintuni Bay but in terms of the exact value I don't have exactly the numbers but I can just give you an overview so you can get an estimate so this is very let's say like a populated area it's only our target project site only about 1200 people live there and their main target fisheries are shrimp crabs, swim bladder from the baramundi or snappers and also the flying fish eggs all our commodities are very expensive and we already did the survey and study so we can share further with you if you are interested to know how much money that the local community get from these fisheries and then of course we can also see through the super chain who will get the most benefit there in the margins that they get from this seafood product trading here so that's in term of the value and then as I mentioned that we are soon to publish our state of the sea report and then we have information data from it's our project sites it will be available in October during our oceans conference and then we do also public scientific report if you want to learn more about the fisheries in our target areas and then I think in term of the donor working on the promoting sustainable use of the natural resources probably I give an example from the forestry arena this is from our work together with the nature conser Fancy, I think TNC Parizel already explained in the morning and then to promote sustainable use and then come up with the better policy we need a good data so right now we are quite confident for example for our work with the TNC on the snapper and grouper because we've been collecting the data for the last three years right now and then we cover quite a huge areas of Indonesia probably can be representing around 30 up to 60% right now in term of the snapper fisheries Indonesia and then what we use then the data can then tell both the regulator the government and also the private sector part because from the data that are being collected right now we analyze the data to see whether the fish stock is still healthy or not whether they are catching small fish, different fish, big fish which one they should actually catch from the water so we can work both with the regulator, with the government and also with the private sector along the supply chain that we are working with so that's an example in terms of the promoting sustainable use of fisheries resources ok, thank you Pa JJ, let me start my closing remark back about 10 years ago then the minister of marine affairs and fisheries just came about in the sexy term and he asked how much carbon that Indonesia has because in his mind free with that amount we can start doing this carbon market go into the market and start selling our carbon from the mangroves and the seagrasses back then I didn't know I wish I known I don't know now I have to ask Daniel again but from what I've learned from this expert we have some ideas like how much but again the idea of talking about blue carbon in terms of carbon market I think we have to put that as a second third priority number one issue for us is I think the conservation how we can stop eliminate the rate of declining of these ecosystems that's number one we are still bragging with our you know coverage of mangroves seagrass in Indonesia but we have to we also are not doing good job in protecting them so for from the point of view of the partners number one issue and this is actually answering some of the questions Emily and the gentleman over there is about the sustainability and the obstacles is we have to look at as an integrative comprehensive issues when we talk about blue carbon we cannot just talk about mangroves we have to think about the seagrasses in Indonesia let me ask the scientists who are here exactly how much seagrass that are still left in Indonesia I got you know I asked 10 people I got 10 different answers we can easily relatively speaking ask them how big the mangrove coverage that's what we can see if you go to Maluku where Ibuseli's project with the small trawlers they can just wipe out this entire seagrasses ecosystem one indicator I've been working in Maluku for decades now we don't see any dugongs less and less dugong is one indicator species indicator where you have seagrasses now the dugongs are gone so well that's one thing well now we are talking about carbon counting how much carbon above ground and we talk about blue carbon yes we have to do it comprehensively but also when we do the scientific yes you have this environment of the scientific information the data but for Indonesia I think the regulation, the policy must also be advanced in terms of bringing all these players not just the protectors of course but also working together within the country but also bilateral or multilaterally with other people this is what we as we sit here so we think what I think the most important one is to have these two prongs the scientific issues we heard from Henry about how Indonesia is gaining outside at the COP co-op meetings where we have all the potential but also inside within Indonesia government we have to do that so we must take this as a comprehensive issues when we deal with this ecosystem we cannot left out the people who live there because we cannot just say well guys you cannot cut the mangrove trees and see grass but for what alternative so I think this is more of the activities that I've been hearing for Iboselli to to help the community for their livelihood and with that we can see like how much resources have been allocated to help the communities for for conservation but this is where I think we need to think about the community but of course as a government with the public and also the ecosystem we have to put them together I'm glad that by Marcel mentioned by Madryl he's here Babanas has been putting this low carbon development initiative so I think with and well I know this is intersectoral issue but if we talk about the development and intersectoral issues we need to put them together and we'll be talking in the next session so I'll invite people to come and listen to by Madryl's talk so with that thank you very much for this opportunity I'll try to be shorter now Luke Arben again it's a very nice kind of name but don't think about it as just carbon I think the key value in the coastal ecosystems is in their huge productivity they are the most productive ecosystem in the world and therefore they need to be cherished and so it's for the livelihoods of the local communities the fisheries, it's the wood production it's the resilience that they create for the coastal landscapes that's where the value lies and carbon can be used maybe as one little element in it maybe it can be easily quantified and can be discussed therefore as a means to say how much is this worth in terms of dollars the real value lies in the social and the socio-economic value for the local communities I think as a closing remark I would say that I'm now one year here with the Global Green Growth Institute and I'm extremely encouraged to see what is happening in Indonesia in terms of the major progress that is being made towards sustainable development planning you mentioned the low carbon development initiative Indonesia but it's not just the kind of a study it's actually mainstreamed already in the midterm planning process the RPGR men the background studies ask for kind of green growth inputs for my organization for many other partners this comes from the forestry sector in Bapinas and from the Ministry of Environment and Forestry itself it comes from energy it comes from Ministry of Economic Affairs especially economic zones are being looked at now as opportunities to pilot green growth development a lot of these things are or these areas are also based in the coastal zone like Bitung, it's a major fishery special economic zone they're looking at how they can green the development of that special economic zone not just in terms of the fishery but also the whole urbanization that's happening and linked to that so that integrated planning, looking at sustainability issues daring to look further than just five years of planning but taking this further 40, 2045 I think that will enable the government and all the stakeholders to take into account what actually both the positive and the negative impacts of current development plans are and how it could be modified to optimize this to the better future of Indonesia thank you very much Thanks by Marcel give applause again for our speakers but before we are really closing this session allow me to make a very short conclusion with seven kind of concluding notes the first one we witness today that the donors if they don't want to call donors we call them the development partners whatever they call it they are very important partners in this issue all of them consider a blue carbon not only a blue forest but blue carbon to make sure that we don't stop at mangrove we need to go deeper to sea grass maybe also to the ocean because they are really a complicated food web so it's always related to each other they are significant issue and need to need a serious attention second blue carbon based on this discussion today is not only related to carbon sequestrations itself but also related to likelihood, economy, fisheries etc including any other associated ecosystem services number three we do still need a lot of science on British BC is supposed to be also British Council BC a blue carbon we need a strong science a lot of expression needed for example if we lost percentage of mangrove what is equals to equals to millions of cars and fuel and so on I think this need a lot of sciences and also strong data on related to blue carbon issues number four of course we need to have as discussed in the first session we need to have a stronger policy of framework, governance so the Bapenas already mentioned about the need for a strategy framework and I think this is hopefully become part of the middle term or RPGM national RGM number five it is understand that blue carbon not only as a for mitigation for carbon sequestration but indeed it also need adaptation strategy because it is already degraded so we need to have both mitigation and adaptation at the same time number six of course we need participation we need a more broader participation from all stakeholders not only the government not only the development partners but also NGOs university and many other societies the last but not least we need to have a much better what we call a financial architecture for blue carbon we need a bigger one we need a more strategic and the last but not least we need it sooner not later thank you and this is the end of our session today please and thank you for your participation I will go back to the conversation


Hi everybody, we're back, this is Dave Vellante with David Floyer, we're with Wikibon.org and this is theCUBE, Silicon Angles production of VMworld 2013, we're here in Moscone South, we're at the street level, come on in and see us, we're in the lobby, just look to the right, we have a great location here, thanks to the folks from VMware for setting us up and this is the spotlight on virtualization backup, it's a key topic, we don't hear enough about it, nobody talks about backup and data protection, sort of as an afterthought, but it's something that Dave and I have been tracking for a number of years. Aman Singh is here, he's a senior enterprise storage and backup architect with Jive Software, a very good, cool company out of Palo Alto, Aman, welcome to theCUBE, thanks for coming on. Thank you, thank you, pleasure. Let's start with Jive, Jive is doing some really interesting things, tell us a little bit about Jive and what your role is. So what Jive does is it's basically a social collaboration business software and we are spreading across the, across the lots of large enterprise environments where the, we're trying to see that how, and we don't use email for our collaboration, that's the main thing that, which we'll take care of many things from the collaboration perspective. What I do is that, so from the architecture perspective, from storage and backups, I manage end-to-end support and implementation. Yes, so Jive started in the early days of social networking and kind of had that vision of bringing that capability, that collaboration capability to enterprises. I think of my kids, my kids don't use email, you just mentioned, yes, it's something that is. Yeah, email would be like, after a few years, no one would know what email is. What is that? It's just a matter of time, is it? Exactly, yes, yes. Okay, so you look after the storage, maybe can you paint a picture of your environment generally and we can drill into the storage piece of it? Sure, I mean the way, so we have two aspects of the environment, one is you could have a hosting side of the environment where customers come in and we can host everything for them and then there's on-prem also, but most of the customers are coming into the hosted which is like a software as a service environment and from that perspective all the backend is how we run everything in the cloud. So you look at Amazon, how you can use it as an infrastructure perspective, you can use your own software, but from Jive perspective it's like you are running our software and on our infrastructure and so that calls for redundancy, resiliency in the environment and how things are done, if something goes, happens in the primary data center, what are the backend data centers and how things are run and also from the latency perspective what things could be done from overall perspective that the customers have a very good value feedback from the overall product perspective. So talk about the SLAs that you are sort of promising your customers from the standpoint of how frequently you protect data and what happens if something goes wrong. So it depends on customers, like customers can buy DR and they can also go to enhanced DR which where the RTOs and RPO times are much lower and so it all depends on what customer wants. So we can have something running in the data centers which we can just flip things up and they can have something running in the backup data centers or it could be we can restore it for you in a couple of hours and you can be up and running. So when we talk about, it depends on which level they choose and so forth. So when we talk about data protection as a service you're doing that. You're doing that today. So okay, so take us through how you're doing it. So I would probably go a little bit back how we were doing it. So basically we were using storage level technologies to replicate the data across. Now what happens is that when a customer comes in and he says that, okay, I want a policy where I want to retain my data for one year and so we go back and we're like, okay, we can do that. It's either for all the customers or it's for not all the customers. I mean, you have to keep a consistent policy across the board where you can eat up space so fast. It's like, okay, now what do we do? So you're keeping backups of one year for everyone or you are keeping backups for three months for everyone, right? You cannot pick and choose. There are no policy-based backups. Any service level you want as long as it's blue. Exactly, yeah. So with that, it's like there's no policy-based backup. You cannot have granular backups if you want to and you cannot tweak the environment with what we had as of today. So that called for something more sophisticated and also it also comes to money, that how much money we are spending on monthly basis on that given architecture. Is it scaling well or not? So it was not scaling. We were spending a lot of money in it and there was no granularity in the present backup infrastructure. So that's where we called for, okay, we need to re-architect this whole thing. Okay, and by re-architecting now, you're able to monetize it in new ways, yes? Not only to provide better service and better customer satisfaction, but you're able to charge for different service levels. Is that right? That is correct. And it's not just that. I mean, there was so many things that we could do with the present infrastructure is that, one is you can have granular backups. The other thing is everyone talks about DDo technologies out in the world. But so when you're running, so from a storage architecture perspective, that I don't want to run a DDo on a production system where I want to save space, right? It's like, okay, I want to get that DDo out of the production system where I can do all the DDo from the backend, my backups do all the DDo's. And now the DDo's, what Data Domain offers or AMR offers, basically going with CISL algorithms and variable block DDo's, they are like much more higher than what a given production system can do today. So you save a lot of space. And if you talk about DDo, they can give you run about 40X DDo on your data, which is like you can run a given system today for next five years and not spend a dime on it. It's just a management, even the management cost goes down because it's a centralized console where you can manage everything overall. That's been a huge cost avoidance for you. So huge cost avoidance. Yeah, I cannot give you a number, but it's something huge. Yes. So you can get, how do you get to specific problems? So somebody has corrupted a copy of something or other from a week ago. Can you come bring back a specific copy of a person's? That's the beauty of it. Yes, you can go into that. This system, the present infrastructure, collect on it and say, okay, this is what exactly you want. Even, it's not even if you talk about VMs, right? Even you can dig into the VMs and say, okay, this is the file that I need. And it has happened so many times in our present infrastructure. Okay, we need this file. Okay, I cannot give you this file. I have to give you this whole blob where you go ahead and find from it. And the restore process is presently, or what we were doing previously is a nightmare. Takes so much time. Since our environment is, there are like so many millions of files. So taking a backup and restoring that in the present infrastructure is very hard. But the newer architecture is like, once you do a level zero backup, after that it's a breeze. Just could you describe that new architecture a little bit more? What are the things you're using within that? How are you organizing? So one thing is, I mean, it's a distributed backup. The thing is, going with data domain LMR, it fits into the present virtual infrastructure where you have proxies running, which are the brains for all these software. So it knows what has been backed up and the data domain takes care of all the deduces and everything. And LMR side takes care of, okay, what I'm backing up, should I be backing up this again? How much data I'm going to send across? So it takes care of everything. And it also, since we are like 99% virtualized, so it just fits in, you bring up the proxies and you create the policies that this is how I want to run it. You create the, when you want to run it and how long you want to retain it. And after that, it's just a breeze. So AVMR has the brains and data domain is providing the brains. That's the allocation of resources across the system. And the other thing is, and this thing is that you can replicate these data domains into another site and they can do a bi-directional replication back to the original site also. So you can actually run production in two different sites and not worry about backups. And the other thing is that, one is that you have a local copy in your local data center and the source are way faster than what we do today. Because we have to pull a data today from an off-site location because that's through the SOC2 compliance that you have to have an off-site location. So did you architect this? Yes. This is somewhat unique from other stories that we've heard, David, right? Yes, it is. I mean, you've got a tremendous amount of flexibility between where's the second site? How far away is that? Well, so we have a couple of data centers. So each site depends on what the backup site is. So we have a few sites in the U.S. We are in Amsterdam, we are in Singapore. So it all depends on what is sitting where and we can set up a bi-directional application however we need it. It's just doing that, okay, this is what would be my applicator site, this would what would be my primary site and you can pick and choose. So why EMC? Talk about that a little bit. Okay, so one thing is that actually this is the second time I am architecting the solution with Data Domain. And previously in my previous company, we actually were using a third party software net backup with Data Domain. Since LMR has come a long way from what it was providing in earlier years and there was not much, I wouldn't say confidence in it but it was not there from the enterprise perspective. We never went that route. Now from the EMC perspective, since LMR is part of the EMC now, one thing is if something comes bundled from a given vendor, it becomes much more easier for the support perspective. Let's say as of today, if I am having an issue even from the VMware perspective, if I'm having an issue, it's so easy to get the resources on a single call that here, this is an issue, they all work together. Otherwise, it's always, it's a finger pointing, right? It's not my issue, it's your issue, right?  It's just like, so the biggest thing is single vendor solution works perfectly and it does what I need it to do. I mean, that's- I just did a survey and one of the questions we asked is, it was around virtualization, it was around multi-hypervisors. We asked, are you willing to trade the risk of lock-in for simplicity and about half the survey said yes and there wasn't any other response that was that close. Some wanted to open, some wanted lower cost, whatever it was but is that a fair characterization of your attitude toward working with vendors, vendor management, are you willing to trade the risk or are you willing to risk potential lock-in to get simplicity and service from a single vendor? I would definitely do that.  Everything comes and falls down to, it's kind of a backbone to help the whole thing and if you can get to a point where it's so simple to get support, so simple to support the whole thing, it's just like- So it's a conversation we have a lot in the keepers. Every vendor says we're not going to lock in, we're not going to lock in, but there's always some degree of lock-in risk. So as a buyer, you have to be cognizant of that and that in and of itself is not a reason not to do business with somebody, it's something that you have to evaluate in your spectrum of decision-making, isn't it? Correct, correct. Okay, good. How about advice for practitioners that you'd give that are facing some similar challenges that maybe you face? What would you say is the most important thing that you did or if you had to do it over again, you'd do differently? So I mean, when we started with this, we did a POC with all the big units in our production data centers. And so the main advice is that, I mean, the biggest thing is know your environment, like what you really want out of your environment and what needs to be done and if you present that to your management or whoever you want to show it that, okay, this is what it is today, this is what we will be getting to, right? And this is what we will be saving and this is, and do I need another person to do that? No, everyone is scared of backups.  Then you're like, change it? Yeah, yeah, it's always like that. So you want to get away from that mindset, okay, like, someone, so for me, it's like, I can create policies in a given environment and say like, okay, here are the regionally policies. If someone needs a backup, go ahead here and this is the how to do it and do it yourself, right? I don't even need to look at it once I have set it up. Yeah, one job fills, I can go ahead and take a look at it, but I don't need to babysit the environment. That's, I mean, you want to get away from that. I mean, babysitting the environment is not, it's not that we have a lot of time in our hands, right? It's always something or else going on, so, yeah. Yeah, excellent. All right, Amon, thanks very much for coming on theCUBE and thank you, David, for sharing the spotlight here with me. Thank you. All right, keep it right there, everybody will be back with our next guest. This is theCUBE, we're live from VMworld 2013. Okay.


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Rotary International and IHE Delft Institute for Water Education have been working in partnership since 2011. Since the partnership commenced, 77 students from 31 countries have been sponsored by Rotary to further their water-related studies at IHE Delft. Together, the two organizations allow professionals to grow, enabling them to build their skills and capacity to solve increasingly difficult water management challenges worldwide. Good morning everyone. I'm very excited to do this video this morning. My name is Emmanuel Chinadu Umolu from Nigeria. I was the beneficiary of the 2013 Rotary Scholarship Program that enabled me to undertake an MSE in hydraulic engineering, land and water development at IHE Delft. I think my motivation started when I was working as a professional engineer in Bolivia for water projects. I was working for an NGO and implementing projects in rural communities. So many of these projects were infrastructure projects and I was very curious to understand why these projects didn't really work or sometimes were not sustainable. So I wanted to understand different dimensions of water, not only the engineering aspect but also political, institutional and social. So I did a little bit of research of masters and I found water services management as a perfect match so I was even more motivated. My name is Scott Taggart. I am an engineer in the water treatment industry. I live in Canada with my wife and two children. I was looking for a way to advance my career. I thought that more education would help. Then I found IHE and I thought, wow, I discovered that Rotary was offering scholarships for IHE. So I went to my local Rotary group with an application and they agreed to forward my application on to the Rotary Foundation and IHE. IHE Delft is the largest international graduate water education facility in the world. It carries out educational, research and institutional strengthening activities. Since its establishment, the Institute has provided graduate education to more than 15,000 water professionals from over 160 countries. Both IHE Delft and Rotary believe that water is one of the most important issues of the 21st century. Water relates to several Rotaries, areas of focus and in particular to water and sanitation, peace and conflict prevention and resolution as well as disease prevention and treatment. At the Rotary Foundation trustee, Steve Braun, signed the Memorandum of Understanding, which IHE Delft in November 2011, to provide Rotary scholarships for 18 months master studies in water management and sanitation at IHE Delft in the Netherlands. Distribute water in a good way, but also to have a good water treatment there. Rotary International for IHE Delft is one of the possibilities to first of all give us the opportunity to train more people coming from the global south that are working in the water sector. And together with Rotary we also believe that we have to shape, create, educate in a lifelong learning setting the water leaders of the world. IHE is doing that by supplying information on the technical side of water. So how can you do the water treatment? How can you make sure that you have the right quality of water at the right moment in time in the right place? But also all the socioeconomic side effects that are related to the water sector is also what we try to educate at IHE. IHE Delft alumni return home where they acquire key positions, support the implementation of the global water agenda, and improve the quality of life of their communities every day. Presently I am part of a World Bank Task Team on a $500 million finance project titled Transforming Irrigation Management in Nigeria. The objective of this project is to improve access to irrigation and drainage services and to strengthen institutional arrangements for integrated water resources management and agricultural services delivery in selected large public schemes in Nigeria. Our goal with this project is to improve the lives of almost a million direct beneficiaries. This is a noble goal that I am happy to be part of. IHE allowed me to achieve what I wanted because I wanted to work for the International Development Corporation. So after a couple of months in the NGO I applied to be a consultant for the German Development Corporation and I was selected so that was great. And it is still very valuable for me because I see now no boundaries on what kind of water related job I can get. After completion of post-graduation program at IHE I came back to India and joined Centre for Water Policy Regulation and Governance at Tata Institute of Social Sciences. At the centre I am a part of a two-year post-graduation program known as Masters in Water Policy and Governance. I teach for the program and also I am a part of some research projects. As a part of this teaching program I am helping others to build their own capacities in the water sector. Right now I am working with a classmate in Bolivia, another one in the Netherlands and myself in Canada along with our Canadian, Dutch and Bolivian rotary groups to sponsor the construction of some sanitary latrines in Bolivia in a community. This is based on an initiative that has already been going on so we know that it is successful technically. And now with the financial funding and rotary we are able to increase the scope of that. These latrines have solar showers in them so they can have warm water and sinks. And it has been shown that they provide an immediate and long lasting improvement in the quality of life of the people that receive them. The partnership between the Rotary Foundation and IHE Delft Institute for Water Education has made a significant and sustainable difference to date with the targeted water and sanitation and water and peace scholarship programs. We are very proud that we have been able until now to train 77 students from 31 different countries but we do hope that we can at least double this number of students in the coming future and for that we are seeking your collaboration. By providing this scholarship to me Rotary has started a chain reaction and I am thankful for Rotary for providing this opportunity and being part of this chain reaction. In retrospect all these would not have been possible without the support that I got from Rotary to undertake an MSc at IHE Delft. I say thank you to all Rotary donors for your generosity.


Just a couple of days away now from the high school football state semifinals in two teams from our area make up half of the class 3 a bracket Clayton Castle previews peers in Pequot Lakes as they each prepare for their big games on Saturday. We've come down to the final four in the state football tournament and in class three a we have two teams from the Lakeland viewing area headed down for a chance to go on to the finals in Pequot Lakes and peers. This isn't the first rodeo in the state tournament for the pioneers but the team knows every game is a battle including this week's match up against Jordan. They're, they're good. They're for the defense. I don't know. I guess we're just going to keep doing what we do all the time and keep running the ball and just keep doing what we're doing, I guess. Jordan has some playmakers on his team but coach Leo Polkamp says the team is preparing and will be ready on Saturday afternoon. Well it starts with getting some pressure on the quarterback. He's got a very accurate arm thrown for a lot of yards this year and we've got to get some pressure on him, you know, mix up some coverages, kind of disguise some coverages, not give him the same look every time. And if we come and play defense and do the things we're supposed to it's going to be an interesting game. At the top of the bracket the Pequot Lakes Patriots are preparing to take on undefeated top seed St. Croix Lutheran. Well they're the number one team in the state. They've got a great record. They're a very good team. A lot of great athletes. They run the ball very, very well. They've got a couple players in their division one. In preparing for St. Croix Lutheran the Patriots will be switching some things up in what could be a challenging battle. We're switching around our defense a little bit to face them. We're doing some new plays for offense and watching a lot of film for them. Being the underdog hasn't gotten to the Patriots. Instead the team has been using its underdog status as motivation. I think a lot of people think that we're the underdogs and I disagree. I think that we can shut them down and stop what they're going to do and go get the win. Pears and Pequot Lakes will both be playing on Saturday afternoon at US Bank Stadium. Reporting in Pears and Brainer Clayton Castle, Lakeland News. Thanks Clayton. As he said both kickoff Saturday. Pears playing 9-3. Jordan at 2 and then right after that Pequot Lakes will take the field with undefeated St. Croix Lutheran right around 4-30. If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News please consider making a tax deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.


Hey guys, it's Emmanuel here and in this video. I'm going to be talking about the RSI Divergence strategy While making this video I'm going to make some assumptions that you know what a candlestick is that you're familiar enough with your Platform to know how to plot the indicators on your chart that you know what a trend is supposed to arrange in markets and That you can follow a simple set of rules Which I'm very sure that you can so yeah, let's get started So the very first thing you want to keep in mind is that this is a sort of like a counter trend strategy meaning you're literally taking trades against the trend and Immediately alarm bells should be going off Warning you that this is not a strategy that you can use at any random location on your chart You have to be very specific in terms of the location you choose to get involved in the market Perhaps what most people don't understand is the RSI divergence as it's Usually taught is an entry method and the last thing you want to be doing Is taking a trade or entering a trade against a strong trend again and again That's got to be a very quick way of losing all your trading capital There has to be a very good reason as to why you've chosen to take the trade after seeing the setup on your charts I'll go further into details with this in a second So in terms of the market state Component of this strategy we are looking for the market to be in a trending Environment and should have been for quite a while So remember this strategy is used to predict the end of a trend and the turning point in the market So it's critical for you to use it after the market have been trending for quite a while We do not use this strategy in a range bound market neither should you be using it at the first sign of a trend You want to wait till you feel like the trend is over extended and these are things we'll go over in this video For those who don't know what the RSI divergence is It's simply when the RSI indicator the relative strength index indicator diverges from the price action on your chart another word for divergence can be separation or part in dividing so basically doing Opposite or going in a different direction altogether to what your price action is doing So let's take a quick look at the chart to see exactly what we're talking about We've got a pretty good example right here with the market in a pretty good-looking trend pulls back Tries to continue traded above the previous. I only buy a little bit in this particular instance But on here looking at the peaks under indicator We see the indicator putting in a lower high at this peak I think I'll use the crosshairs to try to show you exactly the point So right at this high we've got a high on the indicator as well on the next high The indicator puts in a lower high At this point we can say Price is diverging in the sense that they are separating or parting from each other So let's zoom in further And discuss some of the specifics of what constitutes a divergence So what I'm going to do is make this rule based to make it as systematic as possible for the sake of simplicity If at any point you can't answer these questions with conviction Then I suggest you leave the trade alone and look for another opportunity You never risk your money or invest in anything you are not sure about Right. So rule number one Do you see a trend and does that trend have at least two higher highs in this particular setup? We can clearly see that the market is trending higher and for the second part of the question We've got at least two higher highs in this case We had three before the market topped out and gave us the divergence rule number two As price pushes higher past the previous high has the rsi made a lower high Now what most people will instantly want clarification for is whether i'm referring to the candlewick trading above the previous high or can it close and trade higher With several candles and still count as a divergence and the answer to that is Yes, it can't close and trade with a couple more candles going higher as long as the divergence continues on the indicator and I'll look for some examples on the chart to show you this later on This next rule addresses my earlier point About not taking a setup just randomly with this strategy You'd have to have a good reason to be taking the trade at a great location on your chart So the next rule is it's price at a good support and resistance level And the quick and easy way to do that is to find out what price is reacting to at this previous high And why price could be trading past it with less relative strength Giving you a clue that this move above Could be a fake a stop run manipulation or a short term move before turning around So now we simply zoom out And see exactly what price is reacting to and there We can start to see how price is held as support and then react it to as resistance Moving on to the last rule which clarifies our entries And there are two types of entries that I would like to share with you today And the first one is do you have a reversal candle or reversal candle pattern at the second peak? Forming the divergence if your answer is yes Then you can feel free to take the trade with stop loss above the high with some extra room for buffer However, it's important to keep in mind that this is the aggressive form of entry which maximizes your reward against your risk But is also the riskier of the two entries The second entry is waiting for price to break and close below the 20 simple moving average Taking the trade with stops again above the high with some extra room for buffer As you can clearly see you'd be taking a lot more risk in terms of pips However, it is the safer entry to take and as promised Here's an example of a setup with price breaking and closing above the previous high With a couple of candles before you get your candlestick reversal signals Before price ended up going lower now Let's follow the rules one by one and see if we get a valid entry as we have previously covered So remember rule number one is the market trending And as you can see we've got an uptrend with at least two Higher highs rule number two as the price pushes higher and trades above the previous high Do we have a lower high On the rsi indicator number three Is price at a support and resistance location? So let's check and there we go We've got price using this particular level as a resistance And if we go further back we see it using it support And finally Do we have our entry confirmation? The first entry is a reversal candlestick confirmation Which we have right here On this candle And the second is right here as price closes below the 20 simple moving average And here's a couple of examples of what a bullish divergence looks like And clearly we can see We are in a downtrend And as the market trades below the previous low giving us a lower low the rsi is turning upwards giving us higher lows Is this a good support and resistance location? Let's zoom out scroll to the left to find out and as you can see Price responding to that particular location And finally our entries good entry confirmations right here And when price breaks above the 20 simple moving average And that's it from me take care


Hello friends, welcome to the session. I am Alka. We are going to discuss matrices We have to show that the product of the matrices on the left-hand side is not equal to the product of the matrices on the Right-hand side our matrices on the left-hand side are 5 minus 1 6 7 and 2 1 3 4 Which is not equal to 2 1 3 4 and the second matrix 5 minus 1 6 7 So now let's start with the solution Let a be the matrix 5 minus 1 6 7 and be the matrix 2 1 3 4 we have to show that a b Is not equal to B a So first of all we'll take the LHS LHS is equal to 5 into 2 plus minus 1 into 3 and 5 into 1 plus minus 1 into 4 6 into 2 plus 7 into 3 6 into 1 plus 7 into 4 This is equal to 10 minus 3 5 minus 4 12 plus 21 and 6 plus 28 This is equal to 7 1 33 and 34 Now we'll solve our RHS RHS is matrix 2 1 3 4 and second matrix 5 minus 1 6 7 on multiplying these two we get 2 into 5 plus 1 into 6 2 into minus 1 plus 1 into 7 3 into 5 plus 4 into 6 3 into minus 1 plus 4 into 7 This is equal to 10 plus 6 minus 2 plus 7 15 plus 24 minus 3 plus 28 This is equal to 16 5 39 and 25 Thus we see that our LHS is not equal to our RHS so LHS is not equal to RHS hence proved Hence matrix 5 minus 1 6 7 multiplied by matrix 2 1 3 4 is not equal to Matrix 2 1 3 4 and the product of 5 minus 1 6 7 This also shows that the multiplication of matrices is not commutative. Hope you and understood the solution and enjoyed the session. Goodbye and take care


Hi, it's now time for us to start the vertical theory portion of the theory lessons for classical piano and guitar class here at NCSSM These lessons are called vertical theory because they basically deal now with notes that are stacked on top of each other As opposed to notes that are sort of working in a linear fashion in the linear theory We're dealing with scales and intervals primarily in keys in the vertical theory We're dealing with triads or chords so we're going to start by Defining a few things making sure that you understand some of the terminology we'll be using and then we'll get right into the theory lesson First of all, it's important to understand that in music harmony results when we put notes together and they're played simultaneously so Chords or groups of notes played together help to create harmony when we put those pitches together in specific patterns That gives us chords Now in the harmony that we're used to hearing here in the West There are some very Relatively specific rules on chords and chord structure and we're going to begin really learning those rules here as part of this theory So let's go ahead and take a look as we move to the staff and begin to get into some of the real specifics here chords are also known in their most basically in their most basic form as Triads now that term triads comes because there are three notes that are going to be working together now in the interval portion of linear theory you learned how to identify all of the different intervals and Triads are based very strongly on Thirds in fact a triad consists of three notes that are built in thirds the lowest note of The triad is known as the root Okay, and the root is In some ways the most important note of the triad Then and we have the next note which is known as the third and Of course the top note which we'll think of as the fifth And I think that makes sense because if we're thinking about the interval the interval from the root to the next note Up is a third and the interval from that note to the from the root to the top note is a fifth So I think that should make pretty good sense to all of you, but what is the what is the Specific interval well from the root and we'll put root 3 5 up here that sort of Represents our triad from the root to the third needs to be a for a major chord It needs to be a major third This is for a major Triad and from the third to the fifth needs to be a minor third Incidentally just for your information the distance from the root to the fifth ends up being a perfect fifth and This will build a major Chord for us or a major triad From root to third is a major third from third to fifth is a minor third Okay, if we take a look at the chord that I built right there the notes are G B and D So if we have Let's go to our other screen. We have G B and D in that order From G to B Has to be a major third and in fact one two three four half steps And from B to D has to be a minor chord triad. There's our D One two three half steps. So in fact G B D is a major Triad Okay, let's move back and let's identify another kind of triad. How about a minor Triad Okay, we still have a root a third and a fifth But in a minor triad the distance from root to third is a minor third and The distance from third to fifth is a major third So a good example of a minor triad would be from G To be flat to D and In that case G Be flat D in that case. Let's just start up on this upper G. There's our G. There's our B flat There's our D One two three half steps. That's a minor third one two three four half steps. That's a major third so we have our major and our minor Triads if I were to give you Three notes and let's go ahead and give you the note a and we will Give you an a here and a here and a here now What I want to do is build a major triad using that a as The root here and we'll use it as the third here And we're going to use it as the fifth here and show you the process for doing this So here we have a is the root so we're just going to put a third above it and another third above that Okay, then here where a is the third will put a third below it And a third above it and here where a is the fifth we're going to put two-thirds below it So first of all we've got our triads note names determined, but we want to make a major Triad in all instances so we know the a has to remain a on each of them So let's do a little bit of work here and realize here in this one Where it's the root we have an a a c and an e a C and e so let's go to our Keyboard here, and we've got a C and e now for a major triad. It's got to be a major Third on the bottom one two three up to make it major. It's got to be C sharp so let's go back to that and simply go C sharp then We go from that C sharp, and we go one two three and sure enough that gives us a Minor third from C sharp to e so we've got a good major triad here the major triad is a C sharp and e so that's correct Okay, now. Let's look at the next one here. We have the letters f a and C Okay, there's our f Here's an a let's count our half steps one two three four Oh, so in fact an a is a major third above f and from a to C One two three so we have a major triad already With f a and C that doesn't need any sharps or flats of any kind Okay, now the last one we have df and a D f and a Remember we can't change the a it was given to us so from df and a we'll go back D Here's our f and here's our a Need a major third on the bottom one two three that won't work. We've got to go up here to f sharp and From f sharp one two three that works so D F sharp a Becomes our major triad And that would be how we could take that same note and sort of make it either the root or the third or the fifth of Various triads, okay now it's time for you to go ahead and take a look at the lesson and Try to apply some of this stuff that you have learned Remember a triad has a root a third and a fifth and it is a major third from the root to the third in a major chord or a major triad and a minor third from the third to the fifth and if we have a minor triad it's a minor third from root to third and Major third from third to fifth. Let me write that down one more time Just so that that stays clear in your mind a major triad from root to third to fifth is a major third and then a minor third For a minor triad from root to third is a minor third and From third to fifth is a major third I Hope that's clear and you can go ahead and go to work and do the first assignment in vertical pitch


Michel Fouchet, welcome to WPC TV. You are a distinguished foreign policy expert in France, a former ambassador. And I think you've become a little bit of an expert on China. And I wonder how you view China's global ambitions. I think you have the one belt, the Silk Road, et cetera. It's a global ambition starting with original realization because the main topic is to unlock Western China to provide stability and also access, market access and resource access. So it has a domestic element to it. First element is development in the western part of China by unlocking, you know, an opening border with Kazakhstan, Central Asia, Pakistan, which is a top priority. Pakistan is the only ally of China. China has not a lot of friends, but one ally which is, of course, Pakistan access to the Indian Ocean and Afghanistan, but because Afghanistan is full of resources but full also of instability. And so this one belt, one road initiative is interesting not only because I am a geographer, but because Presidency himself is committed to that. When he paid official visit to Serbia or Poland, like this year, with strange places for a Chinese president, it's because he wants to negotiate transportation agreement, and he is doing that between Central China and Western Europe, 50 trains a week, but also Swiss Canal, a new logistical basis in Djibouti, in the Maldives. So they have a kind of British-style strategy of, you know, pearls, islands, military bases, present is a logistical basis, but they have also military significance. But the first intention is geoeconomics, and geoeconomics will produce in the long term geopolitical effect. Geopolitical effects which will be salutary for the peace of the world, or might be... I think if China is able also to address security issues, because China is investing a lot, including because it's overcapacities in industry, in very troublesome regions, Central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, so China one day will have to become a global player and not only a global producer and trader. We shall appreciate it. Thank you so much. Thank you.