Chat, what's up the YouTube viewership? What's up, man? If you're in the YouTube right now, please hit the like button Please comment on what your favorite section of this episode was. This is the needed podcast episode 19 This is the 19th week. We've been doing this. I appreciate all the support you guys have given me I'm a little bit under the weather I had a man tournament this weekend who run Philly my man Jimmy do a great tournament gave away over a $5,000 in prizes and I was in this little room all day with man players So naturally I got a little bit sick that always happens to you. So it's definitely something you got worried about man I'm really might switch just to the fifth pound instead of the handshake from now on but Almost over my cold. I feel like I'm about 90% It is Tuesday And it was a crazy week in the man world. It really was it was obviously something we've been waiting for was just competitive men It was the end of the The man challenge and the tournament single elimination There was I believe four rounds of sync or three rounds of single Single elimination until you got to groups Then we got to groups then three people made it out of there Some people had other single elimination games. Some people made it straight to the live event the biggest takeaway we get from all the All the online tournament was just that just the putrid Display of effectiveness that the EA online servers gave us Just I mean as a man that streamed and broadcast and it commentated probably about I mean 90% of the games that were streamed Not a lot of them were streamed and that's understandable That's like a whole nother topic that we've gone over a million times on this podcast and so on and so forth But the biggest thing was just the just the rate at which the games desynced there was a new glitch that came into the game There was a freeze at two minute warnings So some of the biggest games coming down to the wire most I mean most Memorable was the sigh and rage game, but a two minute warning and the fourth quarter in a seven point game froze That was wild and you know what happened to a lot of games Obviously, we all watch problem go through it to two different these things I played in my head tournament that had three desynced within 20 minutes where the game just drops Obviously an online later game It doesn't matter that much because you can just quit starting up a game so on and so forth But in the tournament you have to sit through and you know go back to that point There's no situational mode where you can just program that point into the game and that's something that Really hampered the online experience for everybody today or this weekend man And the biggest thing to me is that you know in life everything, you know, obviously you can't fix this problem You know, they they all know it's a problem. They know that it's happened. They know that the desynced are there They know that they're happening rapidly now. It wasn't just every once in a while I remember talking to chow in Vegas for the man chan man classic and one thing he said like Well, what percentage of games you press I probably say two percent of the games desynced no After watching the tournament this weekend I mean, I would say probably at least 60 70% of the games that I watched and I broadcasted and I commentated 60 to 70 percent of games desynced in which players had to go ahead and restart lose all the momentum that they had lose All the thought process that they had and just have to restart a game and all the adrenaline that you have all the adrenaline That your opponent has whatever it may be if you're up if you got momentum if you're feeling good If you're feeling bad, whatever it may be you have to restart the whole thing and it's really detrimental to tournament play man and and the biggest Thing like I said EA knows this is happening. Obviously, they have no answer for it. They can't fix it Nor I mean, I don't think they don't care That's some of the things that say they don't care because obviously this looks really bad And it's it happened on a live stage a couple times. I want to say two or three times But it was really bad for the what's my color Really bad for the online play the online tournaments and obviously they can't fix it I don't think they wanted to go on and I would think they wish they could fix it But they can't I mean, obviously it's been going on all year They implement the tournament tab now all of a sudden we're freezing it a two minute warning excuse me, oh man Freezing the two minute warning so not only do we have to do with deal with these things now We're freezing into the two minute warning so you can get through a whole game without these things bang Freezing the two minute warning got to restart the game anyway Okay, so from where I'm at as a consumer And that not only is a consumer and we all are at are people that invest their lives into this Invest their time and their energy and their money into this into the product that they are giving us into pretty much You know their whole mcs the whole field everything That they're giving us we're investing everything that we have into this And for it to be this bad and for that to be such a terrible experience For everybody that participated in the tournament and everybody that watched the tournament for it to be that bad I wanted some type of apology from somebody. I don't care if it was a janitor that works at EA I would like somebody to say you know what this is not a standard that we accept and we apologize Because for me, I I understand I'm old enough to understand that not everything's gonna be perfect Man, no matter what you're doing, whether you're doing a picnic whether you're doing a softball game Whether you're putting fireworks up whatever it may be It's not going to be perfect. Things are going to go bad and maybe you might not have an answer for that Maybe it's you know what I mean? Maybe it's Something you can't deal with but to accept it and stay quiet about it and not you know accept How bad it was and how awful experience it was for people that Continued to put their time and energy into it and how bad we what we had to go through what we all had to go through And to not apologize for that to me was very disappointing Now at the same on the flip side if you look if you're in Matt Mark who's situation because he is the leader He is the commissioner.  So essentially If you're the leader of this and it's going bad Which it did If you go ahead and admit make make a statement like that. I'm sorry for how bad it was I'm sorry that you guys had to sit through this. If that's your statement That's kind of admitting that you did a shitty job Now anybody in his situation who's already probably on a hot seat Might not want to go ahead and admit that you're doing a shitty job But at some point as a man, I think taking accountability and apologizing for For what happened this weekend and what everybody playing the game had to go through Is a pretty big deal and for me personally that it means a lot That's for someone to accept it somebody at EA. I mean there's so many people And for nobody to say anything about it and just think it was okay for everybody to sit through these desyncs Sit through these freezes and sit through the quality of online experience that we've dealt with and for them to not say a single goddamn thing Was very disappointing pretty much and that that's pretty much what I took in from the whole weekend from EA standpoint That I really wish they would have just um You know just came out and just Said something, you know just acknowledge that is unacceptable You know and and they do it obviously the tournaments are great for all of us man players We really appreciate them put on these tournaments, but at some point At some point you have to have some sort of standard for what you're doing I mean he sports is bigger than life right now and what we had to deal with was not acceptable from any standard And somebody needs to I just wish they would have came out with some type of apology Acknowledge what happened, you know because it was bad and Anybody that watched them playing it would probably agree with me and I think some sort of apology and acknowledge me It would go a long way especially for me Because I am that type of person and maybe it might not work for everybody Maybe it'll just get killed on the apology letter or maybe it'll just make fun out of whatever it may be But for me personally I would love some type of you know acknowledgement and you know accountability from EA Which they gave nothing, you know, they did not acknowledge the fact that the game was shitty all weekend And so we just had to live with them affect the people's games more often than not it really affected problems games But we'll talk about problems game going here and end of I mean we'll talk about problems game going forward here But first of all after through all the desyncs all the two-minute freezes All of the stuff we went through we did come up with 16 players 16 players that made to california 16 players that are going to go ahead and compete for another belt. I don't know how much money this one is total Um chat how much money are we competing for I believe it's like one something I want to say 180 maybe total I don't know. It's not the last tournament was 700,000 You know so out of a million when you take that 700,000 chunk away. It's not that much. So 190k is what the chat is telling me so We'll see But I want to show you guys this is the eight people that we came across This is the groups that they're going to be in for the man challenge And I'm really excited about it because it looks fairly even. I like the way the groups are stacked out No real killer group. Every group is kind of Kind of even I want you guys to check this out Uh, you bring this up for me. Uh griffin. We could take take a look at the groups for the man challenge 2019. I believe this would be and uh, where we at I guess you guys can see that fairly well. We could probably Zoom it up a little bit. Yeah, that's that's perfect. Okay, so this is the first group We got pavin Who defeated clef to get here? I'm we're not going to talk about I mean what happened and that's where you are Going to talk about that but not right now. That's going to be later in the podcast So stay tuned we'll talk about penalties accepting declining and when you shouldn't should not accept But pavin, obviously we had him on the podcast about two pot two three podcasts ago Demand club series champion made california again great performers by him Obviously probably the top five player top one player right now is pavin. He is right here Then we have beast mode mac man 17 man challenge champion Obviously you guys shouldn't on beast mode mac be somewhat familiar with beast mode Then we got crit Crit I mean it's been a twist. That's for a long time. This is his first live event This is his first opportunity to be on the live event stage We'll see what he has and then we got syah joe the same thing Anybody that's played money games played mws played players lounge gamers and whatever You know syah joe if you played the leaderboard is I got juice You've got to know syah and and this is his first live event as well So you have two new new booties in there with with two chip two belt winners That's a pretty I mean if you want to put two new booties put them with two belt winners Two guys with a lot of experience. I mean I wouldn't I can't even think I Obviously beast mode won the man class or the man challenge and man 17 That automatically put him into the man championship at the end of the year I'm trying to think of beast mode made any other live event since then like it was just a man challenge that year that he won And then the man championship, obviously, I don't know if he made it out of groups I don't really don't remember but uh And pavin this is his first year really competing. So although these guys have experience they have belts They're not the most experienced belt winners. They're not, you know, skimbo kids so on and so forth but They definitely have experience and both have belts against two guys that we have not seen on a live event stage So that'll be I mean, obviously if you want to ask me If I were going to pick who wouldn't make it out. It's going to be between. I mean the crit versus syah game I'm not sure. I never really played crit And uh, I don't know what he has or what's going on draft champ is really funny, man You might give crit his number one book and give these other guys shitty books And you know why he have it might have a little advantage, but for me as I've syah Sy or crit whichever one of those struggle whoever wins their game I think we'll get out of there whoever loses their game might see the road But we'll see it's going to be interesting man draft champions is pretty much anybody's ballgame And everybody's going to be pretty even but the one playbook Unbalanced will be a big deal But I would pick uh the loser of syah and crit to be the one to not make it out of this group Then we go on to the next group. We got kane man We got jay. That's the best last year's ravens club series champion We got spoto the young angry guy that's mad at the game all the time and we got books the the the air eating plant drinking Old guy books as I referred to books the other night the most boring man in the history of the world But that's my guy and he's back at a live event Probably has the most experience of anybody on this list kane's has a little bit obviously experience He's done a lot especially in club teams back-to-back bears club series champion was in manbolts 17 Was in the man championship that year as well. So kane's has experienced books Old man books is back playing spoto who probably once again looks like an eight-year-old And then jay is the best the ravens club series champion last year. So this is definitely a decent little group I would Man, I think kane's is playing good right now. I don't think he he lost it all in the online play I think he's got a chance if he's got a good book He's got a chance to make a run obviously books for me My favorite the person i'm rooting for so anything I say with books isn't going to be biased um, but I think uh, I think jay is the best of the one that does not make it out of here I think kane's and books are pretty good. I think spoto's good and I don't know about jay Is the best we'll see what he does we can do but I would pick him to be the one not to make it out next group Drenny vs. Ghost again, I'm tired of watching Drenny vs. Ghost vy electrified a skimbo slayer And then we got westley joe rice Down here. This is it. I mean, this is a good little group man. You got bunch man ghost bunch man joe rice Drenny and then vy who I mean is going to run the ball going to play good defense Really solid player that I mean obviously this is I believe he won a giants last year But this is for me clubs is a little weird because I feel like clubs is kind of easy Now I don't want to say easy to win But it's like it's a little easier to make a one of these if you guys get what I'm saying I feel like making one of these final 16s or final eights is a big deal And obviously joe rice is done and ghost obviously has about journey has about So vy would probably super be the underdog in this situation and I would expect him to make not make it out But then again joe rice did get blown smooth out twice and still make it So joe rice lost by 40 in two different games and still made it here somehow So god bless him. So like I said, what vy can beat joe rice I think vy might make it out and vice versa because I think ghost engineer elite man players I really do. I think I think don't handle these of the two guys fairly easily Move down to the last group another great group. I think these groups are really balanced I think there's no like group that we sit back and say oh that group's amazing And there's no group we sit back and say oh, I wish I was in that group I think they're all pretty balanced man. I think they did a good job. We got carry cue Of all the people in the man community I've probably gone out with carry cue the most as far as going to the club and to the bars And being on the women he did fall in love in vegas a couple weeks ago and he lost that girl So I hope carry cue found that girl that he found in love with and then she ran away. He didn't get her number He was looking on social media. He gave some shout outs Do you remember some and he tried to describe her to people and I hope he found that girl and he got to the girl that I made the final 16 for the man challenge So come check me out. So carry cue carry deuce is is alive and and honestly If if carry is going to make a make a run it's definitely going to be draft champions So you get a good deuce book get a fast receiver a good running back I think he's definitely going to be a problem for anybody to deal with And then another thing you have crushing kiv two guys that play a lot together two guys that lab or whatever may be And it's interesting because And then you have prodigies noble prodigies shout out prodigies for making another event another decent player So this is a pretty even obviously have kiv who's elite And the rest is pretty even It's a pretty even field another even group But this is interesting to me crushing kiv is because Now I don't know if they think about this kiv is probably a nerdy probably thinks about this, but Me and skimbo the man classic Last year we were in the same group. He didn't talk to me at all He didn't want to play me.  He's just like we just People thought like we know No, like skim because this was skimbo's thought process And I'll tell you guys this is he was thinking like okay If me and w are going to do the same thing against carry, right? So if crushing kiv lab all day to stop carry, right? So so carry plays crush first, right?  So essentially I'm wondering if kiv and crush are working together Or they're like chilling and they're not really, you know lock in on this because this is interesting to me that you know is Because skimbo wouldn't help me like he wanted to help me get we had to play true boy rest in peace and we had to play um Stevie j skimbo we didn't go over it like we didn't talk or do anything like that at all like nothing and essentially it was uh Because he was afraid that if I ran a certain defense against Stevie j by the time he played Stevie j That Stevie j would adjust to and be able to beat it So he wanted to do his own thing and let me figure out on my own So I don't know if crushing kiv ever put any thought into that. Are they going to lab up and Try to get out of here and try to you know Beat carry and prodigy or they just want to be on their own Interesting thought process. I don't know like I said if I look at this, I think Between crushing prodigy is the one that's not going to make it out. I think carry is going to be really tough and induce in draft champions But we'll see how they go approach it is something I'll be looking at this crushing kiv run the same exact defense against carry Do they have something different or are they on their own or are they together? What is their thought process? Because like I said skimbo would not help me at all, you know I think a lot of that was skimbo To this day skimbo is afraid of me because he knows on that big stage I will put hands and feet on him. So any advantage he gives me will stop him from winning that That's pretty much how it is I think that's ultimately it and I think kiv kind of has mind control over the rest of his crew Like I don't think anybody in kiv's little crew will ever beat him Other than I think mo because I think nobody has mind control over mo. I think mo Can you know mo mentally is tough enough to be anybody but these other guys? I don't know about crushing and jeff and I know westley has no chance of beating kiv But I don't know about crushing jeff and him. I don't know if they have The ability to beat their leader because like I actually I feel about emb I feel like ghost could be a million times better than joke But joke will always be ghost because joke is just a leader and ghost is just a pawn. But anyway By the way, that's the groups that was the uh Just my brief going on my brief synopsis of the groups man. That's definitely A tough thing to uh see you guys and everything It's definitely uh good groups to look at good games coming up. I believe it is the um I believe this is The march. I want to say march 14 15 Something like that the middle of march. This will go down Little bit extended from um before I want to say two weeks from now or three weeks from now Before I believe it was like the next weekend or it was like two weeks was the Was the longest man You know that's pretty much I think two weeks was like once you made the event Bang you scheduled you flew out you played that weekend. So this is a little bit of time I believe these guys will go ahead and play uh A lot more draft jumps I saw Wesley playing earlier today playing sally cap I think there's something to be said about standpoint man standpoint good people As opposed to just wanting to play uh The same mode. I think it's okay to play different modes, but the last week I would just focus on one mode, you know that that same type of speed Those same type of players, you know them same type of draft especially The biggest difference for me is probably the route specialist You know, there's nothing in draft champions like that, you know And I see a lot of these kids playing and using that a lot especially with their bunch and um It's definitely the biggest difference to me in between the two different modes But I'm pretty sure those guys will lock in and it'll be pretty good, uh but We'll see how it goes Like I said, I mean I'm ready for boasting with a belt and I will tell you right now chat If bogs wins a belt, I will eat nothing but salads for two months straight two months straight So my birthday is may 11th. I will eat nothing but salads a salad for breakfast a salad for lunch I will drink air. I will drink water out of a mason jar with lemons in it I will do all that if bogs wins a belt. I promise you that and I will be 170 pounds And you guys won't recognize me, but we'll see I mark my words if bogs wins a belt when bogs wins the belt I mean I'm fully honestly because I will tell you this as a man that's played the hell out of bogs for for three years This is probably the best bogs has been playing at least Since before the man bowl that I won like bogs is playing really good football right now So hopefully he gets a decent draft and a decent team And we'll see how it goes um but On to the bigger news in the week the bigger drama so to say the bigger Topics that all you guys want to talk about because everybody wants to talk about these topics This is why they show up. This is why they watch I mean, obviously we can talk about the groups and talk about the games, but let's talk about the topics I mean the first one I got on my list Is the beast motorcyrus and this is directly related to problems game. We've all watched problems game We all watched it The two descents the descents on fourth and eight from his own from his from problems 40 Whatever they'd be out of field or range We all watched that pretty much and uh After the game so on so problem kind of went through all these descents The kid didn't know how to get back to the right spot Then he had to restart the game and get so on and so forth the game took three hours And obviously we all root for prime because when hey, I mean he kind of friends with everybody But he's also like the biggest streamer so he has a green following So you always want to see for me personally you always want to see people that stream and put man Is their career you want to see them do good, you know So I'm gonna especially against a creep name like I will listen I will always root for the real name over the creep name every day of the week. I don't care what it is. But anyway so They play prime gets a little bit cheating in the game Uh The the opponent we're just going to call him the opponent caught two high balls like playmakers just Just some not I want to say super Flukey catches but just some catches.  He's playing good. Then he had that overthrow if you guys remember I'm sorry. I wouldn't really have highlights for it, but it's not that it's not the point of the Topic he had that overthrow pick and it was just like damn He went through all that desync and all that restart and then kind of get a little bit cheated So the game was over bank the game's over So now we find out that this king duck character was essentially cyrus Now all you guys know cyrus. He's uh been in the band community forever Good guy, I guess I don't know nothing bad about him. I've always had pleasant talks with him and everything So I have no problem with him. You know what I'm saying Beast mode same thing been in the band community forever Bang bang bang been in emb whatever never had any problems with beast mode been a pretty decent kid to me I have no problem. You know what I'm saying? So boom now these two guys live together Okay So what problem was alluding to in a couple of his messages after the game was that maybe beast mode who I would have Ah Me personally, I don't know how good cyrus is at the game. I don't know how good beast mode is at the game I never thought beast mode was some super elite player like in kiv skimbo goals or the joker Somebody like that beast mode's been a pretty decent player, but we can all agree. He's not a super elite player You know and cyrus Might be just an average player whatever it may be But anyway problem was alluding to the fact that maybe beast mode plays the game for cyrus because they live together Now this has always been a problem in madden that people assume is going to happen And the most recent example was the early mud head tournament when Kiv played all the games for serious mo And emb accused them of that where and so that was the first example of that Was when kiv was playing for serious mo early in the year this year, but in all seriousness, um You never really know who you're playing in an online tournament, but for me as far as i'm concerned I've always felt like I should pretty much be able to beat anybody You know, and I really don't know who i'm playing on the other and like I said, I uh Played a lot of emb members in these online eliminations. I really did and um You always assume when you're playing a franchise evil low Little man, whatever it may be It could be joker because joker lived down the street from all these guys And it's like he could just show up at their crib and play the game And it's something they've always accused emb for and and emb always accuses other people with this But ultimately I think it's just a part of online man that we kind of got to expect We kind of got to you know Anticipate it and expect it, you know, it's really not a big deal because I feel like everybody Kind of has the opportunity to do it me myself I've never been I would never let anybody play I would rather lose than play Than let somebody else play for me because I feel like as a man it's like For me, it's like for me to say I'm not good enough to win. Can you come please play my game? What? Like what? I just I would I on my mother I'd rather lose than admitting that ever in my life I would rather lose but so for me that's never been an option Um I would I mean there was other notions of people having multiple uh Multiple Gamer tags in the tournament and that's something I mean I fully expect everybody to do You know, if you have some some friend down the street that wants to play mad You know, you want to go grab some games getting a leaderboard. I would 1,000 do that and I would 1,000 asked 1,000 ask, you know, or 1,000 assume that Multiple people did that man, you know this year in the dc tournament Because you all you gotta do is qualify on the top 96 You can go over your buddy house play play 50 games And qualify or whatever may be Qualified and you got two chances now.  I don't think anybody actually won and got in there So yeah, I'm looking at the chat a little bit I've kind of been and youtube you guys can help me I've kind of been debating whether or not I look at the chat during the podcast or not You know, because I don't want people to the youtube viewership to go back and look and be like damn I mean, who's he talking to if I talk to anybody. I'm talking to the chat, but So on and so forth, but like I said People playing games for people has been around since online man has started Especially I won't even tell you how many times nfl players will get somebody hit up a And you'll be surprised how much this happens nfl players will hit up a professional man player and say Y'all got a gamble against my guy for $5,000. Can you sign on my name and play stuff like that happens all the time? It's all part of online gaming, you know, you never really know who you're playing on the other end All you know is the gamer tag and that's something as man players I think we've all accepted and really it's not something to really talk about really honestly until And the one talk is about can we make streaming mandatory? It's tough to make streaming a mandatory thing for people Because it ultimately is like why It's tough because the streaming equipment. I mean that me problem or people with computer computer is at least a thousand dollars Things about webcams mics all this extra stuff is just like now you're kind of expecting now you're kind of opening up The mad the the the tournament field to only like professional gamers You know, you remove the whole thought process of somebody just playing for fun and making a run in a tournament And I think it's a little bit unfair that you I mean ultimately for somebody like me I wouldn't care obviously But I think it's a little unfair for people that aren't, you know Set up whether internet-wise or equipment-wise to stream mandatory But it has been talked about in meetings. I've been able to competitive meetings Do we want to you know make streaming something mandatory? But we'll see if that's ever a decision going down the line and uh You know, we'll see if there's positives and negatives to making everything stream the mandatory It would be cool for man. It definitely would be more exciting. This week would have been way better especially this weekend Group play games and the the the winning getting games would have been so much better because we saw Chat you guys tell me we saw rage versus sire decent, of course And we saw eagles nations games. That's all we saw all weekend. That's it You know But anyway So that's pretty much like I said people playing for people has been around men since online happened It's something we accept. So I think complaining about it. I mean, what can you really do? There's really no answer for it.   Sometimes when I say jokes like that like seriously i'm Books played his games promise you but anyway That was that topic now. Let's get on to the the next topic which is pavin versus clef Which stream streaming in this could have helped this dilemma Now this game and my understanding comes down to Kind of I want to say etiquette I think that's the rule we want to use, you know etiquette is kind of the rule We want to throw out there. It's kind of the word we want to throw out there What type of etiquette does a man player have to do? What is expected of a man player? What is expected because I feel like at some point we're all kind of friends You know, I feel like everybody, you know is kind of my friend, you know And I wouldn't want to cheat anybody out of anything But at the same time I want to win You know when it comes down to what penalties are acceptable what time in the game is a penalty acceptable When can you accept the penalty, you know because obviously we get to a point where all the um Delay games start to gain people You know people don't accept them the only person to ever really accept them was joke and the man ultimately But you know jokes a different type of person and we'll get to that in a couple seconds But essentially if you guys did not hear What happened between pavin and clef clef needed gaming representatives? So I was a little biased and I'm going to be a little biased on this conversation but What happened was it was it was late in the game Clef was down points. He needed to get the ball back from pavin He was down like three a minute left in the game if pavin gets one first down the game is over Clef holds him the three yards on first down second and seventh and before when Pavin comes out of the huddle going to the line of scrimmage Before like the y receivers even get set I believe what happened was clef clipped on the d the end hit the right trigger by accident Dn goes off size does the jump thing jumps off size gets from second and seven to second and two Bang, that's a huge play a huge penalty to take because second and two is that much easier Second and two is you know, I mean there's yeah, it's pretty much going to get a first down to end the game So that penalty essentially kind of ended the game for clef Now, I don't know. Obviously it was accident. He didn't want to do that. He wasn't on aggressive. He didn't fake hike And uh, it was just it was just something it was something that And this is what's crazy about it. It's something that if they were playing a $20 game He would I would and it all right put it like this if he was playing a $20 game If he was playing 20 any time in the game, it would have happened. He probably would have declined it If it was a hundred dollar game it happened in the first half Probably would have declined it And it was a big moment in the game and you know what I mean? It's that kind of thing, man and we'll talk about this all the time because I feel like and clef told me that poppin said if he was playing somebody else, he would have declined If he was playing bazooka larry, he would have declined it But because he was playing another tough opponent on his same level and wanted that first down to get out Then poppin accepted it, you know, and that's I feel like you got to be the same You're accepting and declining got to be the same for every single person You know and honestly for me what I saw I would have accepted that But because it happened to my man clef. I think it was scummy But I want to give you guys two examples I found two examples from man live event Of where people chose to accept or decline the penalty You know, and we'll talk about this.  He's still the posted boy for madden, but let's get to these two examples The first one I want to show you is young kiv griffin gonna bring these up for the people at home This is young kiv against carry q now. This is a little bit different Because this is the first quarter of the game You know saying this is the first 30 seconds of the game It's not even the first quarter. It is the first 30 seconds griff, can you bring this up? Yeah, there we go. So this is against carry q Bang young kiv. This is I want to say madden 17 madden challenge Now this kiv carry boxed them so much. He has a fourth and four on his own 31 first play of the game Now you see carry is just a weird old on defense He's like pressing not pressing and if you remember this year, they had the little motion out glitch He gets this guy off sides Now kiv is running his play, you know and bang. He throws this incomplete You know kiv does uh, you know, i'm a decline net You know why because I didn't deserve that that was a glitch in the game And you see he's thinking about it But ultimately he's going to decline that you'm saying because kiv has the you know The the four thousand dollar gucci jacket on and he says, you know, I don't need that He has the four thousand dollar gucci jacket and the 40 dollars in makeup on and the 400 dollar haircut So he declines the penalty and ultimately I will tell you this chat You see how much success kiv has had since then because he's honestly an honorable person But I also rewind this if this happened at the end of the game would kiv decline this penalty You know, and that's kind of where I'm at would you decline it would you understand? And carry here happy you know saying he got the ball carry q meaning of a live event this time will make a run So that's an example of kiv declining a penalty bang Now I want to give you an example of the biggest scummy penalty in the history of mcs error This penalty happened against me And this was joke A man that's outspoken about everything And I will show you this play right here Notice chat notice this this is the man classic and I will tell you this this game I I got cheated out my life in this game.  I'm in a tough spot defensively, right?  So if he gets the first down runs the draw We and what he does right here.   I could have put the controller down and did the same thing He didn't earn that I wasn't on aggressive. I didn't do anything anything to warrant getting a penalty right here Nothing And this penalty essentially takes him from the 450 yard line In the field will raise to where he can just run the ball and get a field goal. And what does joke do? Exception Exception Now that is the worst possible penalty you can accept Right there is the work because at least like cleft clicked on the guy went off sides That is the worst possible penalty you can accept and joked that on the live stage at the live event So I never he could never ever in his entire life complain about anybody ever accepted a penalty Now, I mean, I don't know what I would do But I might accept. I don't know what I would do. But I think that cleft penalty I accepted uh, but Ultimately, it's always tough not taking the free points or not taking the free You know what I mean the free yards But anyway, that was my two examples of penalties that you can accept Decline whatever it may be. I mean ultimately the choice is yours But I think you have to stay consistent and if you would accept it in the first quarter You pretty much I accept it in the fourth quarter if you would decline it in the first quarter You gotta decline it in the fourth quarter. It's kind of that. That's how I feel about it. You kind of got to stay consistent And ultimately I mean I I think you can't really argue as somebody Accepting penalties for them to win them the game. I mean EA sports is in the game, but essentially that's what pavin did It wasn't it wasn't as bad as the joke one and it he didn't win him the game Where I don't think this joke penalty won him the game. I kind of just think You know, I mean obviously give you a huge advantage and that one game pavin a huge advantage to get that first down But ultimately there's there's some type of etiquette. I don't know what the unwritten rules are. I really don't but uh I mean shoot You got to decide whether you're going to go for it or not and uh pavin obviously accepted his penalty And like I said people ask what should I do when joke they accepted the penalty? Like what are my options to do? You know what I mean? Like what what should I do? You know what I got to think about the next play because He was not I mean he was like regs He was kind of field of range after he accepted that penalty and it's like if I start complaining about it You know, like what's going to happen. They're not going to stop the game They're not going to give me my five yards back. Nothing like that is going to happen So I pretty much had to focus on the next play because I figured if I could stop him Hold him for no yards. He can get the biggest day of the 42 and kick a 59 yard or something I really had to make sure he didn't get any more yards. So if my thought process wasn't about the penalty Obviously the penalty sucked, but it was more about I got to keep playing this game is not over pretty much You know, I didn't complain because it was me. It's like what like What are you really going to do? What is that going to solve complaining about it, man? You got to keep playing, you know, and honestly pretty much everybody I'm I mean pretty much everybody's kind of different, you know, how you react to a situation like that Kind of determine how it's going to work and I'll tell you what because clef Obviously, he didn't like it So it became a big deal because he thought the computer just did it. It was a computer thing So on and so forth So maybe that effect how you play the next couple days and I know they took like a whole day off in between the games So to me that was huge I mean, it's hard to keep your moment. We talked about the descents. We talked about the freezes, man It's hard to keep your momentum through all of that, man. It really is Hard to keep your momentum and it's hard to keep that intensity going the whole time really but uh That's that's that's the whole penalty thing, man. You like I said, you got to stay consistent I don't really know where to draw the line. I think all penalties are pretty Acceptable. I mean, like I said, the one joke except it was pretty much the worst to no huddle My computer player bump into his offensive line Is probably the worst one you can get honestly But that's enough of that. That's enough of the poppin versus clef. Obviously pavin went on the win the game And he's in the groups we talked about earlier Good luck to him in the tournament We'll see how the madden karma fights back as we saw kiv declined the penalty and he's had a lot of success Since then, you know, pavin accepted the penalty. We'll see how it goes for him down the line, you know But the next thing I want to get into is the man drama videos man, we've seen Yo mama has man drama and now we're seeing um gph. Oh, you guys know gph doing a lot of man drama videos And I just this is how I feel about these videos You know one they're done by people that kind of aren't in our circle They they aren't I'll tell you that right now even your mama at some point is kind of your mama's like I think your mama's a super clown. I'll tell you that right now. I think he's a super super super clown Because one minute. He's your best friend W. Let's go out to the bar. Let's go to the club. W. Let's hop on his seat with this Let's make a song. Blah. Say blah. You didn't blah. Say let's make a needy gaming song. Blah. Say blah Then I mean then the next week he put in our posts about me and skimbo still being racist And he said the needed gaming logo is just a skinhead logo with little change Why would y'all support this literally made that post a couple weeks ago? I think he is a person that will do anything for attention And just piggybacks off our names to get attention and I don't like giving him any attention honestly But I don't think he's doing the man drama videos anymore. I think gph Who I think is a pretty decent kid. He's a little bit over the top. He's um Kind of in that same Avenue, you know what I mean?  I've all this stuff so I can talk any shit I want any man drama video I want I can do but these guys that are kind of outside of the circle that are just Like casting stones and pointing judgment for views on the man competitive scene I don't like it, you know, and I don't want it to become a clown show That it's always been with your mama and I don't think gph is there yet But he's flirting but to be honest with you and uh I think there's an avenue of Players like gph who are pretty decent man players like not they're not great obviously Could probably qualify for like the draft champions tournament could probably crack the top hundred and we can leave You know like halfway decent man players like not your average the bazooka joe is pretty much what i'm saying Like guys that play man a lot, you know, they're better than everybody on their block They're better than everybody in their high school But they're not good man, you know what i'm saying and I feel like those are the ones that hate the man the competitive scene the most You know, those are the ones that that wish they were like good at man And they wish they could be the best man players But they but they're not there and because of that they hate the competitive community I think there's a niche for that type of person, you know what I mean you know, I think Those are the people that like these man drama shows kind of like Appeal to you know what I mean like the the halfway decent Like the solid man player that wants to be great, but just isn't there yet, you know Uh, and it's pretty much It's pretty much uh, I think that's what the man drama show is for that type of person And I feel like there's there's more of that type of person that is halfway decent and man Then there are elite man players like like us, you know what I mean? And I think the man drama show is kind of for them And uh, I mean, it's been good. I think gph does a good job. He's he's an entertaining kid He does a good job But I just don't want it to become a clown show where he just starts fabricating a lot of stuff Like your mama would do and that's where it's like. All right, buddy like Let's not let's not go too far. Let's not get out of hand with this Let's keep it you know keep it real. You know what I mean and like I feel like he you know and honestly We'll see how it goes. I mean, I don't have a problem with pretty much Anything he really said. I mean one of the things about he talked about his latest Man drama video and you guys can check that out gp a gaming powerhouse. This is youtube I don't know if you guys know you guys should know who gph is but anyway latest video he talked about kiv Getting game film or somebody else while he was bitching about his game film being out I mean, I don't think I mean I don't think that's a hypocritical thing. I think just because like Just because I don't want my game film being out doesn't mean I can't go ask somebody else's game film, right? Like like what's wrong with that?  I mean, I don't understand why what's the problem with that I feel like every man player in the world At this level is going to be Trying to find every ounce of information that they can and if you don't use every answer It doesn't matter any field in life that everything and you do in life Every field that you have man, if you're not trying to access as much information as you can You're just letting yourself down. There's so much information out on everything that we do man Between the internet between youtube between wikipedia or maybe there's so much information Between your friends know what stuff between, you know elders know what stuff There's so much information that you have if you're not accessing as much information Or if you're denying information that people are trying to give you or anything that's available to you You're just doing yourself a disservice man There's so many opportunities to learn more about everything in life And if you're not using these advantages that you have to gain more information You're really just letting yourself down, you know, honestly, you know, I mean And To me I I feel no shame I have no shame for somebody trying to learn more about something that can help them in life Whether it be because learning more about how my opponent plays man Is like that's going to help me advance in the tournament. That's going to help me become a better man player You know, and I have no problem for someone even a kid said that some guy just gave him the film because Honestly, and I and I'll go back to this same group of youtube type people That are halfway decent a man, but not good enough to compete They kind of want to be in the competitive realm You know, so if if I'm a youtuber and I'm pretty good at man Oh, should I have something that can help him?  So I'm I'm more than certain people would hit Excuse me people would hit give up to send him things You know because they would they want him into competitive or they want to be in that competitive realm They want to be friends with somebody that's that elite Goes back to that So but like I said, if you're not trying to access every bit of information You're doing yourself a disservice And I I think just because even if kill was out looking for to take like which which I would do all the time I mean, I remember the man classic when I played online every game I I had to play I remember I had to play short text school I hit up akg because he just just lost them akg. What's up, man? Can you I passed broadcast? Do you have the game? Oh, he streamed on his channel? Okay, thank you akg. Let me go check out short texas goon twitch. Oh damn. I'll just watch that game Okay, next game who I got playing this all got play franchise.  I'm deleting my past broadcast I'm making sure nobody recorded it.  That's my job So I see nothing wrong with even if kid went hunting for stuff. I don't understand what My like I said last week on on the show I mean my biggest thing with the kid and mowing on him. It's just how they just demean how somebody's trying to ground youtube that's corny to me because That's the only problem I had with their whole interaction. Really. I really did and I told you guys if I played off stream I would ask somebody but that's just me Nobody else. But other than that, I have no problem with anything that went on whoo We should have examined we don't talk about young kids getting this getting obnoxious It really is like I said, especially somebody that really hasn't done shit But anyway That's pretty much how I feel about them shows man Uh, when your mama did it was a clown show it was because he's a clown period Just a man that wants any type of attention for anything that he does period And I don't want gph to go down that road Because I think he's better than that. He's uh more entertaining. He is more creative and There's more things to talk about man. I find things to talk about man every single week Even when there's nothing to talk about I find things to talk about But the last thing I want to get to man is the eagles nation thing That was a big deal for me And I kind of thought a lot different than most of you guys thought and I'm going to look at the chat a lot right now because This was something that was kind of important to me and kind of I want you guys to relax because a lot of y'all A lot of people want to talk about eagles the eagles nation For those of those that you don't know that are in the chat that are in youtube, whatever it may be Who's ever in that doesn't know eagles nation eagles nation is 19 years old Uh, I first want to say I Ran the eagles nation. I want to say man 16 when he was a chubby little 15 year old Got to my throat a lot of talking but uh Yeah, so I first ran the eagles nation probably man 16 He was a little chubby 15 year old or whatever and um I remember in the man in the in the munt world Everybody scammed somebody like that's pretty much I think The eagle but he was nation anyway So he was a kid Streaming trying to play mutt trying to get into the mutt community. He's a little bit weird You know, he would wager here and there and so on and so forth and uh, essentially for In the past four years from man 16 to man 19 He did a lot of welching Burning people on wages burning people on money games even to this day like Not paying up what he loses and so on and so forth and he also Do a lot around a lot of racial stuff a lot of racial inwards and all this stuff that was terrible I didn't know about any of this but I've heard from a lot of people that I respect a lot of people that I trusted this happened Cool. So first of all, I want to do two different subjects This the burning subject and it's the racial subject. First, let me talk about the burning thing This is how I feel About because I really think the two first of all the two scumbag things But I think the two different things to begin with And one before I start any of this conversation Never am I once will I ever stick up for the for any of these actions? Never do I condone any of these actions? Never do I just Ignore any of these actions. They are terrible both of them equally terrible.  This is how I feel This is how I feel I feel like if I'm going to go best somebody online, right? I'll bet you 20. I don't care who you are. I don't care if you're bazooka larry in the chat, right? I will bet you 20 dollars.  He might pay me. Who knows? I feel like online and twitch met in the man community people have credit You know, I mean, you know, I know who I can bet with and me myself I pretty much only bet with people that I've met in real life But I know the people I can bet with you know, and if I decide to bet with this random name and he doesn't pay me God bless him. Now his credit is shot Right. There's people in the man community.    I will tell you that right now. That's how I feel about burning But I mean, it's not for me somebody a welch is somebody it's not like a Crucifiable act. It's not a crucible thing because I feel like I mean, part of it is the person that's gambling. That's how I feel about Gambling and as far as people that are owing people money. You mean that's it But that's just how I feel about the burning thing, you know and And being sick and trying to do this as rough, but um Now we can but now we can get into the racial thing And you guys know me. I dealt with this immensely. It is the reason I just have my own esports It's the reason I have no real sponsors. It's the reason I have no real Esports organization is the reason why I'm by myself. It's the reason why I'm just standing on my own name because when I won and I was the most Marketable person that has personality that has you know Intangibles that is good at man. I was everything two years ago and it came out that I was racist And I said a bunch of n-words and everything no matter what the context is and this is people Because you guys know me and a lot of you guys knew me before this At some point the context for the rest of the world the context doesn't matter You know it does for you guys because you know me And it does for Eagles Nation because obviously I'm assuming you guys told me his was much worse And it matters because you know the situations But for me, obviously the 500 people that knew me through twitch and man, obviously they knew who I was So they they oh, no he can't but out of 500 people that knew who I was What percentage is that compared to the people that actually saw what I said? You really got to think about that, you know And really context didn't matter for me because it's pretty much just about the words that you said And and the way people attack me and people still attack me today Not knowing who I was not knowing where my heart is not knowing anything about me Nothing about me the way people continue to attack me to like I said to this day Is was devastating on my entire man career is devastating on my whole life is devastating on Every accomplishment I ever had in man because some people that's all they care about Now Eagles Nation Obviously is a child And I don't know when he did this racial stuff. I don't know when it happened Never excusable even from the stuff I did was never excusable and one thing you can never tell anybody how to feel about it So someone is offended to the point where If someone's offended to the point where they don't want to deal with Eagles Nation no more They don't want to hear nothing about them. That's fully acceptable. That's fully fine And if someone never wants to talk to me and someone never wants to deal with me Somebody never wants to do any business with me and I'm detrimental to their success I have to accept that as a man for the rest of my life. I cannot tell people how to feel If you're that offended about it, then god bless. I have no problem with that but The one thing about Eagles Nation to me I think he's a little off You know, I feel like he's he's 19. Like I said when he started this he was a chubby little 15 16 year old kid I think he's like super sheltered. I think he grows up in like some rural farm area somewhere I think I think he's like borderline autistic. I'm serious about that and um I think when you see somebody act like this somebody don't pay his bet somebody dole around racial slurs crazy I feel like he has no guidance. He has no role models.  Like just a little weird just a little off seriously like social like socially awkward like doesn't know no better Like do you ever see like like life when can't get right? Like he's like they can't get right a man Like he's a little slow You know and to me I feel like so what I get from eagles nation is that he doesn't have A support system around them. He doesn't have the guidance. He doesn't have a role model Honestly, I feel like he doesn't really interact with people in real life If you let me say like You know what I mean? Because these are things that you learn in real life You know early in early in your life. Like you can't say this racial stuff. You can't not pay people These are things honestly chat as much as these are things you learn in like middle school and high school Seriously, like am I am I wrong? Am I right? These are things that you learn early in your life And I feel like these are things he didn't learn So I feel like okay, this guy's made tons of mistakes and I have reached out to him like no dude You have to apologize for all this and my biggest My biggest complaint in all this is is this is what it was This was my biggest complaint was kind of how we all treated this kid In the chat and and pretty much when he was as happy as he could ever be because Obviously all he wanted to do was play man. We all know he's really not that good a man like he's You know, he's never going to like win a belt or nothing like that But he has a lot of fun playing the game and at some point you got to remove I don't know to me.  He probably burned people But I know he didn't call 500 people racist in the words.    Maybe he doesn't deserve to be treated the right way But then does that mean we treat him like shit? Does that mean now because of what you did in the past? Do we have to treat you like shit? How should we treat people that we don't like pretty much is how what Jacksonville taught me like How do we go about doing that?  Obviously if y'all don't want to deal with him He's racist.  That's my question pretty much You know what I mean Like to me it's really it's not a joke like it's not about the jokes And I feel like a lot of the twitch a lot of the twitch chat is a lot about who can say the best joke And I feel like that's what it was when he was playing and stuff and I maybe I don't maybe I don't know Maybe I'm all the way around but it's kind of how I like since Jacksonville.  You know what I mean? He's He's a little loose. He's a little You know, he's he's not there. He's awkward At the word to describe the kid is awkward 1000 percent I chat you would agree with me, right? So he's not all the way there. He made some super mistakes That he should immensely apologize about and I'm not even talking about the burning The racist stuff is completely different from the burner If you're also getting burned by eagles nation at some point you kind of deserve to get burned by eagles nation I mean, I and Joel and you're right. If you say it once you said a million times, you're right And I think every white person I mean we gotta get over that like every white person has had racial moments in their life like And it doesn't mean it's right. It doesn't mean it's acceptable. It doesn't mean And it doesn't mean that's a hateful person, you know, sometimes You have to understand what arguing is about Sometimes when somebody gets you mad, you know, and I don't I guess he said this to Jrk guys just relax big man streamer and whatever back in the down. I don't know where it was. He's the one now God bless him. Good kid But um, ultimately when you get when someone makes you mad or you get an argument A lot of times you just think what can I say fast to make him as mad as possible? You know That's all Yeah, he definitely needs to uh, acknowledge why it's wrong, but honestly Who who maybe I'm just assuming that People in his life.  I feel like that's something important in everybody's life I mean you guys agree with that. It's important to have somebody in your life That will tell you where you're wrong that can guide you and show you right around And like I said, this kid is awkward to the point where it looks like and it feels like he has nobody in his life That tells him what's right or wrong You know what I'm saying and it's like How do we treat that person after that?   I just feel like it's No, no one gets a pass for anything.  How are we going to we as the man community? How are we going to handle this?    But that's kind of how I feel I'm scared of every person and I'm scared of how I treat every person And how how can I treat people to make them affect the rest of their lives pretty much Is how I see my life now really That's all I don't know if he's I just it's not that he's slow. I don't know if he's slow I just he just seemed awkward. That's all chat and y'all could agree with me all the way I listen, I reached out to him and I talked about it and I said, listen, man, you got to take and I told him I would write it for him I would I would really help you met because this shit affected me immensely and I was That's all Yeah Yeah, but Joel, but what you have to realize is that Now Kepp I'm all the way I will never guns will never be a part of my life kid By the way, Joel, but what you gotta understand is that it doesn't matter how you use it And it really doesn't as much because you know who I am and you know the context that I used it and you understand it But for somebody completely disconnected from the situation, it's the same thing So I get treated the way y'all treat him You have to understand Joel that The way y'all treat him is the way the rest of the world that doesn't know me or doesn't know The kind that's the way they treat me.  It's just a misfortune it for his his upbringing his life all that I just think is unfortunate And obviously it's not none of our responsibility But we could do something to kind of help it. I mean I really I don't know That's all I mean it's opponent. It's not about defending. I don't know why you don't I don't know how y'all get me is defending I feel it's like The word defending there's no defense. I I just feel like The question of the whole subject is how are we going to react now? You know, how are people going to react now after this kid then did this day in the third? How are we going to react? You know, how what can we do to react? And I'm sorry youtube Uh, this is a little deep that this is like personable with me and the twitch community man If you have your own opinions on this you go, please comment below But I am reading the chat if you ever want to check these these podcasts out live their tuesday Around 7 p.m. You hit the notifications on my channel twitch.tv slash dub dub Legend you write about that and I think that's one of the strengths of madness that People are so different, you know, everybody in the man community is different, you know, like But ultimately we all come together because we all love the same thing, man And you're gonna have some people that grew up and You know a tighter household, you know that are more secluded as I think this kid was very secluded You know saying he probably didn't see a black person until he was freaking came down to man tournaments Honestly to me and I feel like it's hard to see how You know hard to get a reaction and understand how the world's going to react to your behavior if you're not around the world If that makes sense I mean, I'm I just don't want you all to I don't want any of you guys confused me with somebody that's justifying any of that That's all I want man. It's I just never wanted by confused what I'm saying. I'm pretty much just saying Uh, how can we treat a person? After that, you know what I mean? Because I know the way I was treated And I know what it feels like and uh So definitely and at some point and mohawk said to someone and somebody you kind of deserve it, you know, you kind of But some of it's just not necessary, you know, because trust me, man I know everything I do that was wrong. I know right from wrong And at the time I didn't even I didn't know right from wrong at the time I had no idea how big the deal was because and jollo, I tell you this is something at the time when it first came out my third was Same thought process you guys had. Oh, everybody know everybody go understand the context. They know me. They follow me on twitch They know me. They could never think I'm racist. That's the first thing I thought I thought it was just a couple little haters in the world. That's the I said I said what? Everybody knows me. I'm dubbed that. Everybody knows me. I was just playing Nobody knows you nobody knows you man. Nobody not a single single person you know I just I'm to me it's pretty much uh How can we you know not because to me it was tough for me When I when I accomplished something great in my life and honestly for him making this little tournament run It's probably equivalent to me winning a tournament or something like that Like this is the most attention he's ever gotten from mad, you know what I mean?  And honestly, I feel like y'all that's really offended really I think the best thing I don't know like it goes to the thing. I don't you can't tell people how to feel But I think just ignoring the kid and not paying him no attention You know because I really just I really just Yeah, people will uh people will definitely um The one thing about people and it's not the man can be just people in general They will Always try to bring you down man And you guys will realize this the the more success you have in your life The more people will try to bring you down and it's that bring you down type of mentality that I hate And I think it happens in everything, you know It's kind of almost it kind of almost ties into the the gaming powerhouse trying to bring down kiv Trying to bring down the competitive gaming community, you know, because the competitive game like less You know, and I always think people have that attitude Well, yo, I'm not going to acknowledge that because the youtube will not see that comment But anyway, no, I feel like I feel like the more you're doing life the more people will try to bring you down And I feel like as a man community I don't think we need to be the people that needs to always bring somebody down Because I think we can be better than that. I know I can be better than that And that's what happened. That's exactly what happened to me And uh, you everybody has something they can bring like when when anybody wins a belt There's something you can bring them down.  Obviously the racism is pretty much as at the biggest flaw you can have as a human being right now Especially in this time of day is it's pretty much the biggest flaw. So and I don't know Yeah, I mean that that's all I mean, I just I hope you guys one understand that I'm not justifying anything I just feel like the way we could we could treat the kid a little bit better Ultimately the kid has to apologize and be Accountable for everything that he's done Now I fully I fully will tell you this The burning welching thing is completely to me. That's that's y'all fault a little bit Chat agree with me or don't disagree me. Half of that is y'all fault for betting with the kid You know what I mean? I I see it like Like this like I feel like this with the cat with with the chat is like I see the chat 100 people say he owe me money Listen, if if he owe 100 people money 96 of them, that's y'all fault. That's how I feel about it But as far as the racist thing is completely different So that's why I kind of want to separate those two issues Because I do feel like if he was just a burner like ish But he wouldn't be getting killed the same way You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't know.  I don't I really just wasn't happy with the way our community kind of just Was just trolling the hell out of them and stuff that that's the one thing that I just didn't like it You know, that's all Because a lot of it to me was pretty much it just felt like how people talk to me. That's all But anyway, I see y'all the chat on jokes now. So I thought Ultimately, like I said, I just wanted you guys to make sure I know I'm not justifying anything the kid did I just want us all to be conscious about how we treat people from here on out In the man community because I mean like I said after Jacksonville I am afraid of every person and I'm afraid of all my actions I take towards every person and how they affect the rest of their life and and I hate The mentality that people have the human nature is to bring somebody down when they're up when they're high on their pedestal You know, it's just crabs in a barrel mentality That's pretty much what a lot of people have and I don't want the man community to have that I want better for the madden community and as a leader of the man community I will do my part. I have reached out to the kid I fully expect he will have an apology He will be accountable for these actions and I will do my part To hope to try to guide children because that's what you guys are most of you guys are children or kids or young adults And to learn what right and wrong is, you know And what you can do in social settings and what you can't do in social settings and and how to act You know, even if I change even if I change this kid's life just a tad little bit and get them in the right direction Just, you know, five degrees in the right direction That'll be better than nothing man It'll be better than killing them in the chat and I feel like we can do better as a man community But also if you feel like If you feel like man, I don't want nothing to do with the kid. He's racist.  We did this for 19 weeks chat This is 19. So 52 divided by 19. I don't know the answer But it's feeling like we're almost more than a quarter of a year done with podcast, man This has been I've been really been accepting the uh All the support I've gotten from this podcast man has been a lot of work I also gotta thank nerf street for giving me this venue my man griff and dray in the back to always do the Little they hit the little buttons and turn the switches and everything they do all the fancy stuff They do all these graphics make it look real nice. So I definitely gotta thank those man next week will be 20 Next week will be episode 20. You might do something big for episode 20 I don't know what else we're going to talk about But if you're in the youtube section, man, please hit the like button comment on then comment on eagles nation what you think about the situation Ultimately, like I said, I just want to be conscious of how we treat people in this community as a whole That's all man. We are not crabs in a barrel. We are better than that. We want to see everybody succeed Ultimately, that's the measure of man. How happy can it be for somebody else's success, man? That's the measure of your confidence It's the measure of your self worth man when you can be happy for somebody else Not that I want y'all to be happy for the kid But I just want y'all to be conscious of how y'all treating other people in your lives I'm sorry to act like dr. Phil, but this topic really uh This topic really spoke home for me because of my My past and because of jacksonville two different things that happened to me that I see immensely in this situation So that's why I wanted to talk about man. So if you have any comments, please leave them in the comment section I thank you guys chat man. I love you guys, man without your support We would have no podcast But we do have a podcast today and this was episode 19 episode 20 is next week So I appreciate you guys coming through and kicking in with me


Like, why do you look so unhappy? It's like, I'm sorry, I apologize for my Asian face. Who's passionate about supply chain men, but it doesn't exist. Because most Asians are not satisfied with their relationship with their parents. So why would they be satisfied with their boss?  Listen, if you're Asian out there, just know that you'll never be happy and it's just over. A new study shows that Asian-Americans are the least happy with their salary at work. What is the real reason for this? We are gonna dive into it and share our insights because I am with professional comedian and former McKinsey consultant, Alvin Kwai. Thank you, Alvin, for being here and sharing your insights, man. What's up, guys? I might've been the worst McKinsey consultant in company history. Still McKinsey, though. Still McKinsey, though. McKinsey's not an easy one. Can't take it that way from me.  Yeah, so we're gonna be talking about this viral new Pew Research study, guys. So if you guys are interested in this topic at all, please hit that like button and check out other episodes of the Hot Pop Boys. Let me read it for you. For Asian-Americans specifically, only 28% of the workers say they're extremely or very satisfied with how much they are paid. That is the lowest percentage among all racial groups. So Asians are the least happy out of everybody. Surprise, surprise. Asians are also the racial group with the lowest percentage who say that they are highly satisfied with the relationship with their boss so they don't like the relationship with their boss. And moreover, only 60% of Asian workers say they can be themselves at work all or most of the time. There are nearly 20 million Asian-American citizens residing in the US with 8.8 million in the workforce. Side note, Asian-Americans are overrepresented in both low-paying occupations such as manicurists and cooks and also overrepresented in high-paying professions including all the technical fields. So I guess like before we dive into the comments section, Alvin, what are your initial reactions to this having been a former Asian professional? Yeah, I love that term overrepresented in high-paying fields. Like, oh, we're just, there are too many Asians who are paying them too much. Like that's a bad thing, right? Yeah, yeah, these Asians are getting too much money overrepresented. Yeah, I think Asians are just overrepresented in work period. Like I think a lot of Asians, especially when it comes to the lower-paid jobs, they're working two jobs at least. Love the grind. I think it's the same Asian working both jobs. I think one Asian is being a consultant at McKinsey during the day, and that same Asian guy's going to the Chinese restaurant and cooking General South's chicken at night. That could have been you working at McKinsey and doing comedy. That comedy would have been your low-paid. Yeah, exactly. Hey, very highly paid, don't ignore him. Can be highly paid, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I think like, who is even themselves at work though? No one is. So that's like a funny question to ask, right? Like, I don't feel like myself at work. Yeah. Who is themselves? No one's themselves at work. That's the whole point. That's why it's at work. You're not hanging out with your friends, you know?   Dude, I heard one guy say that he was passionate about supply chain management. Who's passionate about supply chain management? It doesn't exist. You're passionate about cocaine. That's what you're passionate about. But the supply chain to get to the cocaine is that he has to work the job and then pays the money, and then the money buys him, he goes to the connect. Exactly. And then he gets what he wants. Exactly. It's the things that aren't said. Right, exactly. Yeah, I mean, I think when it comes to not satisfied with your relationship with your boss, I literally think you could replace boss with parents, and that would still apply to most Asians, because most Asians are not satisfied with their relationship with their parents. So why would they be satisfied with their boss? Those are the two most like authorities in their life, right? Exactly, I think our parents just gave us trauma with any authority figure.  He loves you.  Neither is your dad. It's never gonna happen, all right? Right, so it's just another cold parent. And then also, I think you having worked more professional jobs than me, but I know this Asian culture is different, especially even the way that we communicate in the workplace. Yeah, absolutely. I think Asian culture, the way you communicate is very straightforward. There's not a lot of beating around the bush, whereas corporate culture is, that's all beating around the bush. It's all saying what you have to say without saying it. Like, hey, I was wondering, could you give me those, we could circle back about those reports that I asked you to do, where it's like AKA, like, hey, do the reports. The longer you can delay what you wanna say, the better, like, hey, I was just wondering if you had the time, maybe in the afternoon, you could get me, you know, three paragraphs later, get me the reports. Right, possibly. Have you ever been told, hey, why aren't you smiling? Yeah, Alvin, why aren't you smiling? Yeah. Is something wrong, you're not smiling? Yeah, straight up, like, why do you look so unhappy? It's like, I'm sorry, I apologize for my Asian face. You know? Like, are you sleeping? Like, no, no, I'm not. You're looking a little tired. This is how I look. This is my, this is the structure of my face. All right, everybody, we're gonna get in the comments section. All right, main top comment. Well, there's plenty of Asian leaders and managers in California, but I don't know about other places. So this comment was saying like, I worked in different places in America, and probably at McKinsey in Atlanta, I'm assuming there wasn't a lot of like high up Asians, but in California there is, which makes sense. California actually has like most of the Asians in America. So it's like Asian land. It's also like, also Mexico. So it's like Asia and Mexico combined, and that is California.  So the only Asians are in Atlanta, I feel like. So they're just not that many of us. Right. Don't just chase the higher paid job, find a place that has a good environment and culture for you. What good is some extra salary if you spend eight hours a day in a toxic environment that's against you? How do you, how much do you agree with this? I agree completely. I mean, eight hours a day, at least. If not more, if you're in consulting for sure. Probably more, yeah, for like, you know, five, six days of the week, that's your life.  It's not worth the money.  How good is cocaine if you're only enjoying it for like an hour a day, dude? You gotta have more time. Man, whoever this coworker was, man, he apparently did a lot of it. He loved it. Really stuck with you. All right, so another comment was, 99% of workers in this world are not satisfied with their salary. The other 1% are the employers and the owners.  But I guess what does it mean that Asians are the least satisfied with their pay? Like, does it just mean that Asians might have the highest expectations? I think they have the highest expectations and I think their parents are also bothering about it. Because whenever, like, my sister is a real worker, you know, and anytime she's told my parents their salary, they're always like, it should be higher. It should be higher. Right. I bet if Elon Musk's parents were Chinese, they'd be like, why aren't you a trillionaire? Your disappointment. And yeah, I mean, I feel like the expectation can be passed down through our parents. I think one mistake that a lot of parents make, but it's not like fully their fault, they're just being like, you know, achievement-oriented immigrant parents is they kind of put their expectations of the things that they didn't accomplish onto their kids. Yeah, absolutely. But it's kind of like that Lavar Ball or like any other parent that's like yelling at their kid at their fourth grade AAU game, like, go dunk on that kid, go dunk. It's like, because the parent wants to dunk on that kid. Oh, absolutely. But he has to do it, it's a proxy through his child. So it's just like, your parents might have been like, yeah, like, I should get paid more if I was in your job, so you should get paid more. Get paid more, what are you doing? You know? It's also a proxy for everything they're unhappy about in their lives, you know? So they might be like, you got to dunk on that kid, but inside they're actually screaming, I can't get hard anymore. Oh, you mean it could be related to something else? Yeah, they're just unhappy, dude. What about this last comment said, Asians will never get paid fairly in corporate America. Go be an entrepreneur or join an Asian company that wants you there. Because basically the feeling is that a lot of Asians, and generally, I think a lot of Asians in society, they feel like they do the right things. They follow the law, they pay their taxes, they work hard at work, but they're still not getting paid exactly what they should be considering they do all the right things. Now in America, it can be a different game.  Yes, yeah, yeah. So I think that a lot of Asians miss out on that, right? Yeah, absolutely. I always said this. I said, if Asians looked at how to hack the game and hack corporate America and hack like how they're supposed to act and talk to people with the same scientific lens that they look at anything else with, like their engineering mind or their science biology mind, they'd figure it out. It'd be game over, dude. Dude, it'd be game over. We got to just look at things scientifically. Yeah, yeah. Dating, working, getting promotions. Look at the sign, we got the data. Yeah, just under a microscope. I agree. Man, to wrap it up, do you think Asians are ever gonna be happy? Are we ever gonna be satisfied? Or let me ask the question. You guys let me know in the comments down below. All right, we're having this discussion. Will Asians ever be satisfied or is this just the desire that is gonna drive Asians to always overachieve? Yeah. And that once we feel like that we're happy, we're gonna be content and then we'll become like any other American. Yeah. Listen, if you're Asian out there, just know that you'll never be happy and it's just over. Just over. At any age? Is there any Asian that could be happy? Filipinos, can they be happy? No. Nobody's happy. Half of them will be happy because they're like half Spanish so that Spanish side will be happy, but the Asians. But the Asian side, the very Asian side will make them not happy.  Dude, how do you be happy as an Asian? Is it possible? No. Do you just have to lower your expectations? Yeah. You have to have no expectations. Damn. Kill your soul.   Not yourself. Live as an unhappy being for 80 years. If that's the key, I hope that's not the key, but you guys let me know in the comments down below what you think. Hopefully this video was helpful as a production conversation for you. Hopefully it was funny and yeah, I mean, guys, I'm telling you, we're not lying when I'm saying Alvin is now a comedian, but was a former McKenzie consultant. McKenzie is not just any old consulting firm. No. Like if I, coming out of business school in college, if I was gonna do consulting, I was only looking at PWC, man. Yeah, yeah, no. You did McKenzie, that's like top level. It's really impressive. It's really, really impressive. Yeah, it's so impressive. Everybody check out his comedy. His comedy is also very impressive. It's really impressive. As impressive as his McKenzie career. All right, everybody, thank you so much. Please hit that like button. Check out other episodes of the Hot Pop Boys. Check out Alvin's links down below. And until next time, we out. Peace.


Hey everybody, I'm Greg Sussman and today we're taking a look, obviously, at the tournament in particular Thursday afternoon for the early slate and Fandall has you ready to break the slate down with us. I'm joined by Brett Oswald from Fandall to give us all the advice we can all handle. What's going on, Brett? What's up, Greg? What's up, everyone? March is here. March is definitely here and we'll start with the top plays on the board and that brings us to Kansas with Deidre Lawson and if Kansas is going to make a move, Lawson has to be the guy that gets them there. Why is he one of your higher priced players that you're putting in your lineup? Well, he's your classic do-it-all kind of college basketball player and he's one of only two guys averaging 19 boards or excuse me, 19 points, 10 boards, a steal and a block per game. Now he's without two of his best running mates and Azabuki and Gerald Vick for multiple reasons. He is going to shoulder even more of the load than he has all year, which his usage rate is up near 29% according to sports reference and so we need to target that heavily for a guy averaging nearly 37 Fandall points a game this year. Lawson does a bit of everything as you heard Brett say.  Lawson is a good player to build your lineup around. Up next, we'll go to Michigan State and one of the best players that I got a chance to see in the country and that's Cassius Winston, who many of you will predict will lead the Spartans to the final four. Cassius Winston at $8,900, obviously a good price. What do you think? Yeah, I mean he's a Naysmith candidate for a reason. He's one of the best point guards and one of the best passers in all the nation. He's third in assists per game and second in assist rate in the entire NCAA and he's heading a Spartans team that has a very high total out in Vegas around 76 points at this time. They're giant favorites playing an overmatch Bradley squad. You expect him to take advantage of Tom is a success in March and past years.  Winston, one of the best guards in the country, as you said, nominated for the Naysmith Award this year and for good reason. Every time he plays, he, I don't know, he impresses me and I think he'll do a lot of impressing at least early on Thursday against Bradley. Up next, we'll get to Tramont Waters for LSU and Brad, everyone's off of LSU this week, especially on Thursday. Given that Will Wade's not coaching, given that they're playing a Yale team that people love, why are you in on LSU? It's first of two LSU players who gets you and why are you in on Tramont Waters? Well, we're in on LSU because they have the highest total on the slate as they get ready to take on a very high paced, high scoring Yale squad all their own. The Tigers total is seven points higher than the next closest team. Last I checked on the slate, Yale's defense is 149th and Ken Palm.com's adjusted defensive efficiency rating and beyond just the boost he's getting from that, he's averaging over 15 points for a second straight year. He's also thrown in those three steals a game. So that's just six fandal points you're getting from steals alone, especially against a Yale team that allows opposing teams have seven steals a game. So it's a recipe for success with Waters 8,200. Yeah. So here's a reveal after a member. Even though LSU may lose this game and Yale could ultimately beat him, it'll be high scoring. It's the highest total on the board is what LSU is giving you. So putting not just one player and we'll get to the second one in a moment. Two players in your lineup. Well, it could make all the sense in the world and be a big difference maker for you. Up next, we'll get to Sam Houser and Marquette, another popular upset pick, Brett Marquette in the first round, falling to Murray State, of course, and John Morant. I don't see John Morant on the list, but Houser makes the cut. How come? Well, everybody is going to be on John Morant and Marcus Howard on the other side on Sam Houser's same team. You're going to pay up for Marcus Howard above 8,000. You're getting Houser in this nice midrange area. You're getting exposure to that juicy one 49 and a half total between these two teams in this exciting 12-5 matchup. There still might be some popularity involved, but I think it's a very good contrarian play, especially for a guy who has a high of 42.1 fandal points this season. He can really fill it up from outside. So I would look for him to have a good game against this Murray State racers team, which plays at a high racers pace. It's going to be fast and a lot of scoring. So Houser, one of those guys that people aren't thinking about, a little bit contrarian at 7400. It's a good price on a team or in a game with a high total, a lot to like there with Sam Houser and Marquette. We mentioned Cassius Winston earlier. Xavier Tillman, another one of those Spartans that you may want to consider in daily fantasy on Thursday early. 7300 dollars. How come you're going back to Michigan State here? Well, they have a very advantageous matchup, like I said, against Bradley. And believe it or not, Bradley's leading rebounder stands six foot seven, Elijah Childs. Tillman is 6'8", very lengthy, 6'8", very athletic player. He hasn't been playing big minutes all year, but if you look at his per 40 minute numbers, he's at 16.3 points and 12.4 boards a game. And he's going to get all the run he can get, especially with this Michigan State team short handed without Cal Arons and Joshua Langford, who was hurt earlier in the year. He's also tied for the most putbacks on the team and converting 70 percent of those opportunities. So if he can take advantage of those of the poor rebounding numbers on Bradley's side, I could see him having a very big game. And potentially at low ownership, given his lack of minutes at points this year. Averaging under 24 minutes per game. So maybe again, a contrarian play here from Brett that'll help you out and go in a different direction than the majority of the fantasy players on Thursday. One more top play to get to. And that's Nasreed for LSU. We spoke about them before the high total against Yale. Why in particular are you interested in Nasreed? First and foremost, he's super talented, he was a very highly touted freshman when he got signed by LSU. One of many that we've seen over the years, including Ben Simmons, he's actually one of only four freshmen in LSU history or going back to 1993, according to sports reference database that has averaged 13 points and seven boards a game. He has seven double doubles this year, and he's coming off just a 26 point 14 rebound game against Florida in a loss in the conference tournament. So he's playing at his best. He's peaking. He has that experience now, even in his freshman season, to where he can take advantage of LSU's high total and get you a big amount of fantasy points potentially under 7000. Reid obviously incredibly talented and even without Will Wade as the head coach this week. I think there's a lot to like with all of the LSU Tigers. And that's why, as Brett said, it makes sense to get at least two in your lineup. We gave you the top plays, but who are you to pair them up with? Where is the value to be found? We'll let you know when we come back. More from the FanDuel Hurry Up right after this. Back with you on the FanDuel Hurry Up alongside Brett Oswald from FanDuel. I am Greg Sussman. We gave you some of the top plays to look for on Thursday's FanDuel DFS slate. But we need to get the value plays to pair those top guys up with. So let's start with Kansas, who for once isn't a one or two seed. They're a four seed. What J-Hawk makes the most sense to get into our lineups this week? Yeah, that's Devon Dodson, a super talented freshman guard. He's not the cheapest value player you're going to find at just under 6000. But he's been a key player for this J-Hawk team all season. And he's picked up the slack in the absence of Ligero Vic, who, as I said, left the team for personal reasons. And since he did so on February 5th, Dodson's numbers are up in terms of shot attempts from 7.7 a game to 9.8 a game. In that time, he's averaging 24 FanDuel points. But that's up to 28 in three big 12 conference games or in the conference tournament at that. So he's just a talented freshman producing now, getting more minutes, peeking at the right time, much like a lot of freshmen this time of year. So he's a very good value play to add alongside Losson. You mentioned you took Losson earlier. Impairing him up with Devon Dodson makes a lot of sense for the Kansas J-Hawks in particularly if you want to pair off these guys and go after North Eastern, it just makes too much sense not to get both J-Hawks in there. Another player you want to get in there is Blake Reynolds of Yale. We said before that LSU Yale game is going to be high scoring and Reynolds at $5,400 makes a lot of sense, Brett. Yeah, this is a senior captain of this Yale squad. He hasn't been averaging big minutes all year, but you have to imagine he's going to get more run in the tournament and crunch time. As a senior, he is third on the team in points per game already, and that's up to 17.2 over 40 minutes. Now he's probably going to play around 30 minutes, but but you don't need giant production from him to reach value. If you're looking for that optimal four times value, all you need is 21.6 Fandal points at this price. He's a nice stretch for shooting over 44 percent from three. And he could cause matchup problems for a guy like Nas read that we said, you know, he's a bigger guy and he's going to be sucked inside. As the senior leader for this Yale team. Well, he's going to put up points. You know, he does not want this to be his last game of his career. It's a real big reason to like Blake Reynolds and as many superstars that you could fill into your lineup here. It's going to be high scoring. We know that.  Up next, Christian Cunningham for the Louisville Cardinals are he's up next. And while Cunningham against Minnesota, I like the matchup. Maybe it's just because I'm not high on Minnesota. What do you think of Cunningham and Louisville? Yeah, this is more of a contrarian spot. Like you said, it's it's not an obvious spot to go to, according to the Vegas totals and everything like that. But it will be a close game according to those Vegas spreads. Five and a half point favorites. The Cardinals are in Cunningham is one of very few players in this range that can get you around 30 Fandal points because of his scoring and just his minutes load overall. He's a little old for your average college player.  He's played in over 140 collegiate basketball games. He transferred from Sanford this year. So he has that experience of playing and knowing all the things you need to know come March. Kind of checks all the boxes, given the experience, given the amount of talent that he has, given his role for this Louisville team, playing over 31 minutes a game. Obviously, someone you want to get in your lineup. Up next, we go to Murray State. And it's not John Morant. He certainly would not qualify as a value play. It's Darno Cowart. How come Cowart fits the bill and not some of these other Murray State players? Yeah, what we want to do here is actually play off that John Morant play that everybody else is going to be looking to do since he's finally on a slate this year, but he's expensive. And why not take advantage of his playmaking skills? Get a guy that can grab a couple of al-Yups and easy dumps down low, as well as the rebounds. He does have season highs of 23 points. And 13 rebounds in his first year with the Racers. He's a junior transfer. He's averaging over 19 minutes, but over 40 minutes, he's averaging 21.6 points. He has five double doubles since the beginning of February. So he also has picked up his play of late in conference play. And his usage is fairly high for a guy that doesn't play a ton of minutes around 25 percent. So this is what I think is an obvious value spot to get in this high scoring game against Marquette. It's a good spot for playing off John Morant, but just cheaper. Obviously, someone you want to pay attention to. And obviously, someone you're getting into your lineup, especially at the price, just $5,000. We go back to Michigan State here, our third Michigan State player. And it's Aaron Henry. You're loading up on Spartans here, Brett. Yeah, why not another one, you know? They have one of the higher totals on the board and they're a big favorite. Now they're shorthanded. And that's the main point that we're looking here for for Aaron Henry, who is just 4900. So he needs just nineteen point six fandal points for you to get that four times optimal value you're looking for.  Now, Kyle Arons is out.  And he gets you those peripheral stats that we like to see from our value guys, seven point one boards per 40 minutes, along with two point seven assists and two point two blocks plus steals. So he can get you get you what you need done in the big amount of minutes that he's seen recently for the Spartans. Minutes, that's what the name of the game is. You can just find a guy to play all these minutes on a beat off team coach that doesn't really want to play as younger players that aren't ready for prime time. Aaron Henry fits the bill. He's cheap under five thousand dollars. Certainly, someone you have to consider on Thursday. One more guy to get to, and that's traveling Queen for New Mexico State. $4,700. How come you're looking in this direction to play that averages less than 15 minutes a game? Yeah, like you said, Queen is not a big contributor. He hasn't seen a ton of minutes throughout the year. He's averaging just 7.5 points and 14.7 Fando points. Now, fortunately, all we need is 18.8 from him at $4,700 for him to reach value. He's coming off a very hot 27 point game in the conference title game. And he has six games of 13 plus points since February 7th. So he's hot. He's an efficient scorer. He has multiple games with double digit points in less than 25 minutes. You don't usually see a guy do that. So he has a special kind of talent and even against Auburn, you know, this could end up being a slightly higher scoring game than the expert sync because Auburn gives them a nice pace boost by about two possessions. So Queen would be a smart guy to fit in your lineup with the very high price guys like Lawson and Winston, the killer queen, a perfect value play. And you could fit in more high price guys like Winston, maybe a jammer at maybe a Sam Houser as well. A lot of different variations you could do. One that you're going to need to do Queen at just $4,700. That's going to do it for us here, the Fando hurry up. I want to thank Brett Oswald for joining me. Good luck in DFS on Thursday. Good luck in your brackets. And well, we'll see you back for more March Madness coverage right here tomorrow.