This is Think Tech Hawaii, Community Matters here. Hello, huh? Welcome to Condo Insider, and let me be one of the many to wish you a happy new year. I'm sitting here with my co-host, Jane Sugimura, who's very well known by all of you. We decided it might be helpful to just review the legislation that took place in 2018 and kind of the status, and then if we have time take a look at 2019 what we might be see happening in this year's legislature. So again, happy new year and welcome. Happy new year to you, and thank you for having me here again. Well, you're the boss, I mean, I don't have a choice, but you're like, I keep calling you the godmother of our industry because you certainly deserve a lot of credit for your many, many years of hard work on behalf of the association industry. Well, thank you very much. You know, I appreciate it. But I have a bunch of people who help. Well, you do, and I would say I just worked with you recently on a matter where an association, road association, forgot to be formed 40 years ago, and you solved the problem. Well, thank you. Yes, that was a challenge for everyone. Yes, it was. I mean, it's amazing that for 40 years, nothing happened, and all of a sudden someone said, oops, who's going to repair the roads, and there we were, you and me together. Right. I just think I've made a little note of some of the bills that were passed, and we spent quite a bit of time in the last couple of months on the fire sprinkler bill. So let's start with the city council and just give us a short update of the fire sprinkler bill. The fire sprinkler bill is in place, and it basically mandates that all high rise residential be retrofitted with fire sprinklers unless you're exempt or you can pass the life safety evaluation, or in the end you can opt out. But there's a new bill, and it just got introduced, and it is basically bill 72, which the mayor vetoed, without the two year extensions on certain deadlines. And the reason why it was reintroduced is because there were some important things in it that got thrown into the dump when it got vetoed. And one of the important ones was language that changed the instructions about who was going to do the examination, and so there's language in the new bill now. I think it's 64, bill 94, but I'm not sure. It includes language that the life safety evaluation will be done under the supervision, by or under the supervision of licensed professional. And that allows the licensed professionals to use association staff, or lower paid people rather than licensed professionals. And I hear that Dana Bergman, a Bergman group, has got an ad in this month's building management magazine, where he seems to be the first one offering to do life safety evaluations. Well, I think that's good. I think there's a lot of confusion and some lack of clarity on that particular bill. But we've always said in the past we support the safety of the residents and the first responders, and we're just concerned that the process be clear. And in some cases, because the buildings may be so old and have unique engineering problems, that residents have the right or owners have the right to opt out if they knowingly and willingly choose to not spend that level of money. Because we've talked in the past about it. Some associations said their budget quotes have been up to 50,000 in apartments. So I think we're on a process and we should be happy. But it's here, it's been done, it's been signed, and maybe Bill 94 will get approved. Probably it sounds like a will. Yeah, it included the things that the fire department didn't object to. I mean, about extending deadlines if you have to apply for a permit. Because the first big deadline is completing the life safety evaluation, which is three years, and the second big deadline is actually getting a passing score, which is six years. And so for the second part, getting a passing score, some of those repairs are going to need permits. And so to the extent you apply for a permit and it takes you a year to get the permit, then your deadline for completing, getting a passing score is extended by the length of time it takes you to get your permit, which is fair. And the fire department had no problem with that the last time around. Well, it's here, it happened. So it reminds me, though, the other thing that was going on in the city council was, I think it was Bill 17. Yes. Where there was other mandatory structural engineer of the envelope. Building envelope inspection. And that one is not quite dead. If nothing happens by the second week of February, it will be dead. And I think because of the life safety evaluation has been passed under Bill 69. I mean, that kind of encapsulates a lot of what would have had to have been done under Bill 17. Yeah, indirectly. But they were primarily following, I think, a New York law where older concrete buildings, it's called spalling, you get the edges deteriorate, fall off. They fall down 20 stories. If they hit someone, then they're probably dead. And the idea was to mandate these building envelope inspections. But I think we got, I don't want to use the word sidetrack, but we got intent on the fire safety sprinkler. And that one kind of got pushed aside for the time being anyway. And with the building envelope inspection, I think with the buildings, the high-rise buildings, they're pretty good about doing the painting and the spa repairs all at the same time on a regular basis, like every 10 years or when it starts to look like there might be a problem. And so that, I think, takes care of the building envelope inspection. Because when you have to do a paint job, paint the entire building, I mean, that's one thing they have to do is to check for spalls. And to do that, they have to do a building envelope inspection. So I think most buildings, and that's the argument we use with the city, most buildings have always done this. And so there's no need for a Bill 17. Yeah, I think the other question is, well, how many reported incidents do you have of an almost injury or whatever about spalling and things falling off the building? I don't know of any to be candid with you. There may be, and it certainly is a potential risk. But I'm not sure, mandating, again, all the associations in the state of Hawaii, which is a much bigger number than the 350 fire sprinkler buildings. To do with this building envelope inspection is meaningful. But anyway, just so everybody knows, being everybody up to date, that that's kind of alive, but dormant at the moment. Yes, it's on the back burner. It's on the back burner. But also in 2018, the most controversial bill under state government was Act 187. Right, that was the priority of payments. And the reason that bill, I mean, that act happened, was because there were homeowners who didn't quite understand the priority of payments. And they couldn't understand why they were making their maintenance fee payment every month. And yet they'd be getting a bill from the association saying, you're short, and we're going to charge you late fees. And what they didn't understand is that the condominium statute, 514A and B, allowed associations to develop a policy called the Priority of Payments, which meant that when the unit owner sent in their monthly check, that if they had a late charge or legal fees, that the maintenance fee would be applied first to those charges, and then they'd be delinquent. Under maintenance fees, because part of the money was used to pay the legal and late fees. Right, and then they would incur another. And with some of these people, they are on short pay or some other type of program. And so they don't always get monthly statements. So they don't know until much later. And sometimes they don't know until they get an attorney letter. And the way the law was set up is that you could not challenge or dispute that amount unless you paid it all. In other words, you had to pay first and then dispute. And this law, what it does is it says that you only have to pay the maintenance fees and that the priority of payments no longer applies to late fees and legal fees so that the associations can't use your monthly payment to apply it to those charges. And I think the interesting thing about that is we know that the industry will be putting in a bill to amend some of that language. Because when you look at condo associations, you have the common expenses, which would include maybe maintenance fees, a special assessment. Some people break out the reserve contributions. You may have a common electric meter and a breakout of the common electric charges. But you end up with parking and storage lockers and fines and HO6 policies that the association has a right to purchase if you don't buy your homeowner policy. And then insurance deductible says to you, and a list was lengthy that the original Act 187 really didn't address the board's right to have an application of payment policy. And so I think the proposal of the industry is coming up with first the common expenses, then to other types of charges. But on those other types of charges, the board does have the right to set a priority of payment or application of payment policy. And why that's important is when you write that one check with whatever you've got in it you're paying, it goes to a bank lockbox. Then the computers of the world take over and start allocating and assigning this. So the board has to have some ability to allocate this. Otherwise, the accounting becomes a nightmare. Yes. So that's Act 187. Right. But as you mentioned it, didn't 514A die January 1 of this year? Is it? 514A, yes. It died as of January 1. So 514A is dead. It is gone. We only have 514B. And I guess there may be some old associations where the developer still owns some units that are still dealing with that. But for all practical purposes, 514A has been repealed. And 514B is the condo law of the land. And we should probably never mention 514A ever again. Right. OK. The other thing you and I have known for several years now, the big issue within the legislature, has been disputes with homeowners. And we had an Act 196, which became from the House Bill 1874, that expanded dispute resolution options. Tell us about that. OK. I mean, what it did is it took mediation and it basically expanded the group of people that could use a mediation. Because what it was limited to was just owners and the board. But then there are disputes between people who sit on the board and the rest of the board and with managing agents. And because there was no provision for those people to initiate mediation, we had to amend the statute to allow for those types of disputes to be allowed to be mediated. And there's some other issues, which I want to address with you in that particular bill. But we're going to take a short one minute break. And we'll be right back with you in one minute. OK. 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So join us for Human Humane Architecture every other Tuesday at 4 p.m. on Think Tech Hawaii. Welcome back to Kondo Insider. I was actually looking at our playlist. You can go online to Kondo Insider and look at the various shows and numerous topics about association living. And I think we've done 128 shows since the beginning of this program. Oh, really? That's how many were listed on the playlist, 128 shows, if I remember correctly. And we're excited about expanding this program this year and adding some new program material, which we'll tell you about in the future. But back to Act 196, correct me if I'm wrong. We all know that facilitative versus evaluative mediation was a big win for us back in 2015, because it allows the mediator to be very engaged, to give us opinion, usually it's a retired judge, almost like a settlement conference judge. But truthfully, the bill was funded by the real estate continuing education fund. And what it basically did was between a home owner and a board. But what this bill did was expand it to include board member versus another board member, board or owner versus the management company. It expanded the people because it's had such a successful track record with the solving disputes that A, we expanded who could play. B, I think what we said was, if you agree voluntarily on both sides, you can make this binding arbitration versus just a mediation. Right, with no de novo review. That's right. With no de novo. And I think that's what has prevented some people from even using the arbitration alternative dispute resolution alternative. Because why go through the whole process of an arbitration? Because that's like going to trial. And then at the end, the party who loses just appeals. And you'd start all over again. And that's happened, I think, too many times. And so people are really concerned about doing arbitration of the statute. So I think that's a good alternative voluntary binding arbitration where the parties agree that the arbitration is going to be binding. And the icing on the cake is that it's subsidized by the condo. So that means that the neutral is paid for by the condo at fund. And what the Higgs also clarified in that act was, you see, we had a situation where one side would request a value of mediation. And the other side would say, no, I want facilitative mediation. And I think what the act now says is, the requester, if I request a value of mediation, I get a value of it. They don't have a choice. They can't use this lesser version of mediation as a tool to keep me from having my day in court, for lack of a better word. Right. And another provision that we put in here was a motion to compel mediation. And this is the one that puzzled the legislators like, well, why do we need to add that? Because the statute says shall. And my response to that is, yes, it says shall. And it is mandatory. But there are so many instances where one side demands mediation under the statute. And the other side just stonewalls them. Sometimes they don't even respond. Then what are you supposed to do? I mean, so basically, because the other side doesn't respond, you end up not doing anything. And so now there is a provision in the statute. And it was really kind of strange. I mean, when we were drafting it, I remember the senator put in $250 that you would get reimbursed for filing this motion. And I said, no, no, no, no, no. You can't do that because it's not worth it. I mean, the attorney's time to prepare the motion, go to court. And that's basically an hour going to court arguing the motion, coming back, preparing the order. I mean, you're talking at least $1,500. And so there's a cap of $1,500 in fees and costs that the person who files the motion. And you know, the judges hate to deal with condo lawsuits. So the minute you ask for an order compelling mediation, they're going to grant it. I think what's interesting about that, Bill, if you go back two years ago, I don't remember the ACT number, but it was the House Bill 832. It's actually a breach of your fiduciary. Duty as a board, if someone asks you to go to mediation, you don't go. Right. And so that affects your D&O insurance. So I think the message to all of you out there is we're trying to find ways to solve disputes between the parties involved in association management, the owner of the board, the management company. And this ACT is another good faith step towards making all parties involved with regard to interpretation of governing documents. It wouldn't be for an injury on the property or something like that. But it's a good bill that was adopted last year. And I think it took effect January 1 as far as those rights. So I think we'll hear more about that. One thing to remember is, as some people may not want to do the mediation or the arbitration because they figure, oh, it's humbling. I got better things to do. But what they don't understand is that the D&O insurance, I mean, if they allow themselves to be sued and taken where the dispute is resolved by a court and a judgment is entered, I mean, it's going to affect not only their D&O insurance premium, but it will affect everybody else's because of the limited number of carriers in the state. We know from Sue Savio that there's like two or three D&O carriers in the state of Hawaii. And we have the highest number of claims than any state in the country. And so this is a serious concern that associations should really take the heart. They got to figure a way to resolve the disputes without going to court. OK. Another thing all over the news right now is service animals, fraudulent service animal. We only have a few minutes left. So give us a short thumbnail what that's all about. OK. This bill makes it a misdemeanor, which means that you can be arrested and charged. I think the fine is what, $200, a fine of $100, then up to $500. And I think this is more of a deterrent because most people are law abiding and they don't want the hassle of being cited or being arrested. And so most people are going to comply with this. And I think this is a good thing. I don't know how if it's going to help us with the association because under fair housing we have to accept a request for reasonable accommodation for an assistance animal. Right. And so I don't know if it's going to affect condominiums, but I'm kind of hoping that there's some kind of connection with this new law and people not trying to fake the use of the, just so that they can bring their animals into the law. Well, the other states have enacted laws, making it misdemeanors for the doctor, the social worker, the licensed professional to falsely verify that a person needs an assistance animal. And hopefully that type of legislation will flow down to us. It was introduced two or three years ago. It died even though most of the disability organization supported it. But I think it's a way to see because there's a lot of little technical problems with the current service that an animal bill has passed. But it's a good faith effort to try to get attention to the matter. We'll see where that's going to go. Wage equality, that was another thing that happened this year. Right. That's where, you know, and associations are employers, so they have to be careful when they do the hiring process not to ask a prospective employee what their last salary was or compensation was. You're not supposed to ask that. Yeah, I guess it's to bring wage equality to minorities and to include female versus male issues. But now it's against the law to either put on the application or ask the prior payment history of an applicant. And I want to take a minute and tell you about the national flood insurance. OK. Those of you who are living in a flood zone may not know this. But the ability to issue flood policies expired. And it's been three times now, I think, the Congress, the Federal Congress, has extended the date to allow flood insurance policies to be renewed. And it now extended as of December 21 of this year to May 31 of 2019. But the thing they did differently this time is they didn't give FEMA the right to write national flood for new associations so they could renew existing policies. But in theory, on May 31, there will be no national flood insurance unless Congress renews it. And all the associations out there who have flood insurance may not be covered. So what are they supposed to do? They're all waiting for Congress to do something. But it's one of the few bilateral things that got passed at the end of the year, December 21, where they extended this while they tried to figure it out because the national flood policy program is a big loser. It loses money every year. And so I'm sure there'll be an effect on rates in the future. But the reality of it is, if you have a brand new association and you're in a flood zone, you're not insured for flood. Oh my god. And so unless they do something between now and May 31. So briefly, we're getting to the end of our show and a couple of words. What do you see in 2019? Well, I see. I know that there's a bill going to be or trying to be introduced that's going to mandate education for board members. Require board members to certify that they've gotten some kind of minimal level of education. And this goes back to dispute resolution. Because I think the theory is that a lot of this dispute resolution that ends up in lawsuits is because the board members aren't really educated as to what the rights of your owners are. And what they are entitled to, what information they're entitled to have and what records they're entitled to get. Yeah, kind of to wrap up the show. We're in our last minute. I think 2019, we know, as I mentioned earlier, that we're going to look at amending Act 187 with regard to the priority payment to clarify some of the technical issues. We're going to look at issues with regard to board education. That's been controversial and has been introduced many times with nothing happening in the past. And then we're looking at trying to get started a process to revise the Homeowner Association Act 421J. And that's probably going to take one or two years to work through a major overhaul of that program to make sure that homeowners have the similar rights to that of condo boards. And so in that note, I want to say thank you for coming again. And thank you for having me. Happy new year again. And I look forward to working with you this year as we go through another year. Let's hope that 2019 is a better year than 2018. Actually, you know, the number of bills introduced have been going down, so hopefully we're making progress. And we count on all of you to run your association well and give your homeowners a fair hearing. And on that note, thank you for watching Condo Insider.


r the five. Hey, I know we got a lot of happy Djokovic fans in the house. You have to watch Rafa from the outside of Australia to watch him break the record in Djokovic's backyard. And now you get to win it on Rafa's turf.  Sweet, sweet redemption. Thank you, Joyce for the two bucks, appreciate that. Sweet redemption. Lacoste made him a 23 jacket, no surprise. They're ahead of it. They know, they knew, they knew. They were ready, they were, just like we were ready. For the 23, 23 slams. Can't wait for Djokovic tomorrow when Djokovic fans are confused about why people still like him.  Djokovic fans, do you care that there's people that, Djokovic has haters?   I don't think the Djokovic fans are really gonna care if anyone doesn't like him because he's the best. He's got 23 slams. They're not gonna, they're not gonna be worried. Very poetic that Rafa-121 in Australia and Novak-123 in RG, yeah, exactly. They took over each other's, I mean, Rafa, it would have been nice for him to break it here and it would have been nice for Djokovic to break it in Australia, I mean. But yeah, all the Djokovic fans is laughing.  There's no, no one's gonna be able to hate. The calendar slam is on. The calendar slam is on because Wimbledon is Djokovic is to lose. So Djokovic takes that and then he goes to America because he's allowed to play that now. Ooh, it's on.  If we get to 25 slams, the calendar slam, I mean, man, what else can he do?  After five years, whom will fans consider goat? I mean, look, if Djokovic keeps getting more slams and distances himself from everybody else, I mean, like I said, Chad, I feel like tennis is so different. Like NBA, people are gonna make comparisons, whatever. But like, how can you argue if the guy has the biggest, most biggest trophies? I mean, I don't know how you say that he's not. Even when he was equal to Rafa, how do you say that he's not the goat? How can you not, you can't, there's no argument against Djokovic that can say that he's not. You can say I like this guy more, that's fine. You can have your own personal goat, but man, how do you deny Djokovic that? He has so many records ahead of Nadal, except for the French open record, which no one's gonna get. Djokovic, the goat of clay, Federer maybe the goat of grass, Matt, that could change, but it might be for now and then obviously know back the goat of tennis. Yep, Djokovic is also world number one. He gets back his top ranking, not to mention it only with the record, so. Nolle is now number one again, yes, exactly. No points to lose at Wimbledon either, that's true. So he's not gonna lose the ranking unless somebody like Elkrez goes past him and does better. How can you argue that Djokovic has the most poor tactics and personality? Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize that it's a popularity contest. I don't think goat status is about popularity, to be honest. I don't think like, well, you know, Rafa has more Instagram followers. I don't think that's considered part of the debate. Well, you know, Roger, Roger won more fan awards. Okay, cool. But 23 is more than 22. Like, again, it comes down to, he's got 23 slams. You can have your fan awards. You can have your followers, you can be more liked, but 23 is more than anything else. You know, like, again, there's just no, there's just no, you can't argue. I mean, if any Djokovic fan in the chat is gonna just say, Djokovic has 23, like, you're not gonna win that argument ever unless Rafa gets 24 or 23 and Djokovic doesn't get any more. But like I said, it's nothing against, like just because Djokovic has 23 doesn't mean Rafa's 22 is terrible. Like, that's the thing. Like Rafa fans and Federer fans and whatever, and Tennisfeld anti-Norway fans shouldn't be upset at Nolay for getting 23. They should be proud of their guy's achievement too. You know? And not trying to dismiss Djokovic. Don't dismiss Djokovic's achievements.  Nothing isn't, yeah, 23 is more than 22, but if you're gonna argue with Djokovic fans, I mean, just be proud of your guy. Rafa getting 14, I mean, 14 French Opens.  Nobody's gonna beat that ever. No one's gonna break that ever, you know? Thank you, Mick, appreciate it. Can Nadal reach Nolay? Okay, so let's, if we wanna say who, can Djokovic, can Rafa ever get back the record? He needs, first he needs Djokovic not to win Wimbledon. The U.S. Open, I think's up for grabs. Alkraz, Medvedev, Djokovic, the three big ones, I think.  I don't think Rafa's gonna be winning the Australian Open next year, but he did that last year when I thought he didn't. We couldn't. Does Djokovic win the Australian Open next year? Likely. Best case scenario for Rafa to get back in this race of like Grand Slam race is hope that he loses randomly in Wimbledon. At the Australian Open, Alkraz is healthy because Rafa's probably not gonna win it, so as long as Djokovic doesn't win it, it keeps it close. And then the French Open next year, Djokovic, Rafa wins it and gets a 23. So he's kind of got, Rafa's kind of got a hope that Djokovic doesn't get one more because I don't know if Rafa's gonna win two next year in his final season. Maybe he gets the French Open, but then Wimbledon, now, US Open, I don't know. So again, if Rafa's ever gonna get this record back or equal the record, his best chance is hoping these young kids can step up while he's gone. But it's unlikely, right?   I mean, getting to 15 French Opens and just keeping that insane record out of reach for the rest of time. I mean, that's the goal. That would be the goal for Rafa for sure. Jesus, why are we, I get it. We're excited, but let's not spam. Congratulations, Nole Nole fans. Yeah, Nole fans. You guys, look, and I feel your Nole fans.  Then the Australian saga where he wasn't allowed to play his best tournament and Rafa, in his absence, took the record. It's like, it's our tournament. And then Rafa extended to 22, beating Djokovic on the way. It was two ahead. Then Nole got one back last year. And then the US Open, he wasn't allowed to play. Then Australia Redemption, and now the French Open. So Nole fans have had to sit on the sidelines and watch Rafa do it. So I totally get that Nole fans are like being hanging on for this one. They'd be like, finally, we get our record. We've been waiting for this. We've been holding this back. Bloody US Open and Australia Open not been able to give us our chance. So I totally understand why Djokovic fans are like, going nuts. Yeah, he's had to do it the hard way. He can't say he hasn't earned it. That's for sure. No doubt who's the goate now. I mean, how can you doubt it? I mean, there's no, you can't make an argument. I mean, he's got the number one record. He's got the most slams right now. I mean, I could change, but at the moment he's got the most and it doesn't look like he's gonna give it up.  No, okay, but he is the greatest hardcore player. He will be the greatest, probably the greatest grass player too. Doesn't need to be the greatest clay court player. No, because Rafa can have that. The greatest overall player. The guy who's got three of every slam. No one's got that on the men's side. I mean, yeah, I mean, it's just so, so it would be so hard if in like 10 years time, school debates, we didn't do that in school, but you know, people do debate club. If you had to debate against Djokovic being the greatest tennis player ever, I don't know, I wouldn't want to be the person who has to debate against that because I don't have any argument. I'd be like, I concede. You've got that, you win. Why would Djokovic not lose points at Wimbledon? Because nobody earned any, nobody earned points. So nobody has points to lose. Everyone got zero. Wimbledon didn't get points, yeah, exactly. Prime Federer smokes Nolay, okay. I'm sure there's a matching time where we could look back Australian Open 2008, where that didn't happen. Yeah, you could argue that Prime Nolay smokes Federer.  I mean, you can do that. So 2006 Federer beats Novak, okay. 2001, 15 beats Federer. Like, I mean, be careful what you type, so that nobody, you know, make sure you're, if you're gonna argue with someone in the chat, make sure you're ready for the rebuttal. Who's the go, who's my go? Serena, Serena, because I like all of them. I hope Rude can win a slam one day. He will. Rude, today, he was coming up against a guy who was doing something, trying to do something that no one's done, but he made him work for it. The second set was, you know, it was just Djokovic being Djokovic, but the first set, Rude was in that. The second set, he was up to it. So, I mean, Rude was, that's the closest, I mean, he did win a set at the US Open, but that felt like, okay, that was the most competitive we've seen Rude in a slam.  He's getting better in these finals now, and he's getting more competitive. So, I'm excited to see Rude come back again, and hopefully get a little luck, not play one of these boys, get to play, you know, get himself up against a runer or a city pass. Rude's got a French open in him in the next, you know, 10 years, five years. Novak was playing in the third set. Was his mucking around, you reckon? That's a bit harsh. Gotta give Rude, give Rude some respect. God damn. Like, yeah, celebrate Jockermid. We really respect Rude, you know? Thanks a lot for our community tennis goad. Amazing work this week. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you everybody for joining us on a personal note.  We're gonna stick around for a while, because it's two in the morning, I don't know where to be. Rude has done well, he's still young. He's only 24, made three Grand Slam finals. Nadal, Elk, Chris, Jockermid's three of the hardest players to play in a final of a slam. And he hasn't disgraced himself this year at all. Kam, thank you, Greg's appreciated, mate. Yeah, respect Rude. Yeah, Rude's respect for sure. I mean, we coined the term last year and I think it rings true. It's not too bad, not a mess. As tennis fans, can't we all just embrace the big three? Without Roger, the first don't think Nadal would be as great and without Nadal, I don't think Novak would have the drive to reach his full potential. They all needed each other. I agree, anonymous. That is very true. Without Federer, we don't get Nadal, without Nadal, we don't get Djokovic. Yeah, we might've got Nadal Djokovic, just like battling it out. But without Federer setting the bar and the motivation might not have been there. I mean, what if the most slams was 15? These guys might've only gotten to 18 because the motivation of getting to 20 plus wasn't there. So yeah, we never know. So well said. And that's why I'm a fan of all three. I'm also a fan of tennis history and witnessing crazy history. So, you know. But look, everyone has their favorites. So you can't argue with that too. I understand everyone has their favorites, but for me, my favorites are Curious. I just wanted him to get one. Serena had no main rival, like the big three. Yeah, I mean, Serena dominant. Well, you could argue that Serena was so much better than everyone for so long. Having no main rival wasn't because the field weren't good. It was because she was better than everyone.  Then over like 15, it's like 20 years, no one could get close to her. They had people that 20 years to get within Serena's reach, no one could. Whereas when Federer raised the bar and the dial came along and went, I'm here too. So like, you know, don't disrespect Serena's records. The fact that she could be that good for that long, only Venus, yeah, only Venus, right? But the fact that Serena could be that good for that long and no one could raise their level high enough to compete, that's not her fault. That's everyone else's fault for just not being able to be a Serena, you know? Am I watching the King's Birthday match today? What's that? I'm going to sleep, I don't mean. No worries, Tihana, thank you for joining us. Who do you think will break this record? Carlos, no one, that's what I'm saying, like enjoy this because we're not gonna see this. We might see Rafa get 23, but it'd be like when Djokovic got 21 because it already happened. Like Rafa got to 21, huge moment. He got to 22, huge moment. Djokovic got to 21, ah, the other guy did it first. He got to 22, that's nice, we've already seen that. 23, it's like, oh shit, we haven't seen this. If Rafa gets to 23, it's gonna be like, ah, Djokovic did it first. You know, like, it kind of loses its shine. Like when Federer got to 20, the others got to 20, that's nice, Federer did it first. So like again, soak this in because Elcrez getting one is not even close to 23. Like, yeah, Elcrez has the potential to get to 20, but so many things can happen. So soak it up. I mean, these guys are 36, 37, and what was Federer? 38 when he won these last? So Elcrez has got 18 years to get to 20. And that's a long time, but it's also, if he's injury free, if no one gets any good, if no one comes along, like there's so many factors. What if Elcrez's biggest rival is right now 12 years old? And in five years, he hits the scene and we're like, oh shit, here's Elcrez 2.0, watch out. Or here's baby Djokovic, right? Like what, you know what I mean? Like we don't know who's coming up to challenge Elcrez yet. So we can't say that Elcrez has got the tour on luck when Djokovic is not around. Plus Djokovic is still here. So yeah, if Elcrez gets to 10, by the time he's 25, we'll talk about it. Bo. Novak also has a better head-to-head record against Rafa and Fed, and now has more slams. Goat debate over. Yeah, well, you can add, yep, you can add that cherry on top. For sure, that, you know, head-to-head, he's better than those guys. I don't think, see that's the thing with goat debates. I don't think head-to-head matters that much, because, well, it does matter a bit, but it's not like the B end, because we can't say like, oh, well, the guy from 1960s head-to-head against the 2000s guy, like, we can't compare head-to-head versus each other because some players didn't play. Right, Margaret Court and Serena never played. So we can't really compare. But that's a little icing on the cake, I guess, as well. Like, you know, he beat, he was in the hardest generation. Maybe you can say that. Mama. Noel has been the goat since 2011. I need a bit of two. Well, look, some people, yeah, I mean, fair enough. At the end, it's 22s more than 20, the 23s more than 22, more than 20. Yeah, well, that's it. I mean, that's the ending argument is that how many slams has he got? He got, he got, and that's it. And that was just so hard to debate. How do you discount somebody's extra slams? Who is another promising besides Alcoraz? Look, I mean, there's still Mevadev. He's coming good this year again. You know, can't count him out. I think Mevadev, once we get to the, Clay's over, Mevadev's back in his element. Like, I think Mevadev, yeah, he lost to Alcoraz at the Indian Wells, but I mean, we dismissed Mevadev pretty quick. Runa, obviously Runa is a very, I mean, Runa Alcoraz, we haven't seen that for a while, so let's see that as soon as possible. Sinner obviously pushed Alcoraz last year at the slams, beat him once, lost a close one to the next. So like, there is definitely Alcoraz competition.  Jokovic has now won the most slams over the age 30. Yeah, that is true. Yeah, he's won what, like 11 since 30? I mean, I wanna get this right. I wanna get this right, hang on, hang on. Let me get this right and then we'll, then, you know, I don't wanna make up numbers. So he's got, where is he at? Where is he at? Where is he at? And he's won 23 in 15 years. I think we should all mention that. Whereas the other guys started earlier, remember Rafa started 2005, now it's 2023. So he had a couple of extra years on him, whereas Jokovic has done it from 2008 to now. So yeah, so since 2018, Jokovic has won one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12. No, 11, I was right the first time. Two finals and he missed three tournaments. Two because of, well, one because it wasn't held and two because of politics. So yeah, he's won, since 2008, he hasn't lost before the fourth round of a major. He's lost three fourth rounds, two quarter finals, a semi-final and two finals, but he's won 11 slams. So he had, what? So 2017 onwards, after the injury, because remember he got injured in 2017, didn't play the US Open that year, came back in Australia, wasn't quite right. 2018, quarter finals of French, wasn't quite right. And then of course, ripped through everybody, won three slams in a row, then he lost the semi-finals of French, then he won another one at Wimbledon.  Like what he's done recently, like last five years, insane. Yeah, one, sorry, one was disqualified, sorry, one, one he wasn't there for, one got disqualified, one was not held, and two got, two were politics, one was default, and one was, actually one was injury, shoulder injury at the US in 2019, retirement, and then one was not there because of COVID. No Wimbledon 2020. Yeah, Rafferkin definitely went another slam if he comes back next year and seems to be moving okay. I mean, he's got the French Open next year if he comes back from this latest hip surgery. No wonder I love Djokovic, he's also always nice and encouraging the worst for his opponent, 100%. And look, again, like I said, we're talking about the history of Djokovic because of course he's doing something that never seemed before and may never seem again, but man, Kasparud, Kasparud, he whooped Runa, he whooped Varev. I would have loved to see him play City Pass. That would have been fun. Maybe we'll get to see him play City Pass later in the year, but man, I mean, Kasparud is just so underrated, so underappreciated.  He's one, he's made it to the three slam finals, which is some of these guys haven't made it to one. Rubelev's got zero, Zverev's got one, City Pass has got two, Mabredev's got a couple more, but he's also won one, so he's kind of in a different league. There's so many of these, Sinner's got none.  So hopefully, at least, you think Rude's top five for Clay? I think he's top three Clay. I mean, well, actually, hang on, Alcarez is ahead of him, but man, Rude's got to be, yeah, top five, top four, maybe City Pass ahead of him if you want to be a little bit, you know, maybe, but man, Rude's just got to get a 1,000 event and then everyone can be like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Rude guaranteed early exit of Wimbledon. Yeah, but he doesn't like Wimbledon, so that's not a surprise. That's not a shock. It's like me saying FAA was going to lose first round this tournament. It's not a shock. Nobac is the Muhammad Ali of our generation. I like that. That's a good analogy. US Open is the most prestigious hard court and Nadal beats him there to one. That's not true. There's no prestigious hard court event. The ADB finals is the, I mean, what do you mean? Australian Open is as prestigious as the US. Thank you, thank you. They're both the same. Wimbledon is the only one that's ahead of everything else. I do think Dominic Teem will ever come back to top level. I hope so. Cam, can you now affirm now that Jockerich is the Underspeed of Goat? Yeah, 100%. I mean, how do you say no, right? How do you, if anybody's, and this isn't going out to the chat, but like anyone in general, if anybody's like, well, I don't know if he's the goat, they're in denial. And you probably shouldn't listen to them because they're gonna make excuses. Well, you know, Jockerich won 10 Australian Opens. Not many people were there. Like I don't know what that you had the hell. Like anyone who says Jockerich is not the goat is lying to themselves. Or they're just very happy, they're very favored towards another guy and they're just seeing it through a different lens because they're blinded by their favorite. You know, they love Rafa or Roger, that's totally fine.  There's no debate hereafter, exactly. But like I said, Jockerich has the, is the Underspeed of Goat doesn't mean Rafa's trash.  I mean, that doesn't mean to be like one of the greatest of all time and everyone else was useless. Like that's not how it, that doesn't, that's not how it works. Just like everyone says that like Michael Jordan is the greatest of all time, doesn't mean Kobe sucks.  All right. Novak's just up here and Roger and Rafa are behind him. But they're still miles ahead of everybody else, miles ahead. Novak's phenomenal considering how hard his childhood was and then piercing through Fadal. Yeah, I mean, yep. He split that rivalry up. Novak's a goat, no offense to Rood at all. They're both great. Oh yeah, I mean like Rood. I mean, like I said, Rood has proven himself again. I think even, you know, it was his closest final. Yeah, I know he won a slam, won a set last year in the U.S. But again, this is best, this is one of his better results out of the three and you know, closest match against Djokovic. Who else has lost three slam finals in one year? Exactly, Hadar, exactly. No one, not lately. So Rood has got to be up there with, you know, I mean, he's done more than some of the other guys around him. It's going to be a great week for Serbia and if, you know, with Djokovic winning the NBA next, well, what's that is, what's the NBA? I haven't even, but he looked at it. What are the nuggets? Nuggets up three, one. No, that's a Friday. Double, double celebration for Serbia. What is it, Friday? That's ages away.  It's a Friday.   Can't be like, well, Nole said, though, Nole didn't say anything.  Djokovic is the terminator of tennis and he's a beast. He's a beast. If you diminish Federer Nadal, then it diminishes Djokovic. Agree, without Federer Nadal, there wouldn't be a Djokovic. Unbelievable. Unbelievable, no, unbelievable, no. Unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable. Unbelievable. I don't care about what they were saying. Marillo. You're amazing for tennis commenting matches live. Want to know if you play tennis. Thank you, Marillo, for the five. I did last year a little bit, but I haven't played for a while. I just don't have time anymore. I'm always watching matches. But I did play a lot. Used to play a lot. Thank you for the five. Before I started this channel, I used to play a lot more. I just don't have the time. All the, like, I don't, like, I mean, I played last year and me and my mates had fun, but just don't have the drive like we used to. We've got other things. He's got my friends, our families. I've got this channel. No, it sounds sad when I say it like that. But yeah, thank you for the, I actually appreciate that. I love to play more tennis though, it'd be great. Who's your male goat? Djokovic. No, back is the goat. He's the goat. I played against the garage wall as a kid, me too. I remember betting against young, a young Norley versus Fed, nice. His head-to-head on Grand Slam's matter for goat debate. Not really, but it helps like Djokovic. I mean, you can't really debate it. I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, rapper French open beats everybody. So you can make that argument, but again, like I said, Djokovic goat and the other player only be favorite of all time. Again, no, if you're going to come in and talk like that, then you're going to make Djokovic, his achievement, not as good. If you're going to be like, oh, well, Rafa and Roger are just the favorites of all time. Then you're kind of diminishing, like what someone said, diminish Djokovic's achievements because it means that like, you should celebrate the other two forgetting Djokovic. I mean, look, Djokovic probably would admit that he wouldn't be as good as he was if it wasn't for them two. So take a note out of, take a page out of Norley's book and credit the guys who pushed him to this level.  All big tournaments won two times. A piece is crazy. He's done three times on the slams, which is crazy. Two times ever. I don't know if he's got to win another, what is it, since he was going to win another, another Monte Carlo, right? Three Monte Carlos and he's got it. He's got three at everything again. No worries, Tilly, thanks for joining us. Wimbledon feels like a completely different tournament these days. I hope Wimbledon, Wimbledon is going to be real fun. I'm excited. So I think Wimbledon's, like Rafa not being here, kind of opened it up for everybody, but then again, the same winner one. But I think Wimbledon's going to be open. I really want to see if Djokovic's motivation, now that he's got the record, continues. Like, is there something more, was this the goal? Like, I don't, I mean, you would expect him to keep going, but if he gets to Wimbledon, will he be a little less, will the hunger be there? Because now he's achieved, he's on the top of the mountain. You know what I mean? So we'll find out what's the next thing for Djokovic, because now people are going to ask him as well in interviews, what's the next goal now? You've reached the pinnacle, what's the next? And if he says 25, then expect him to be fine. But I'm excited. I'm excited to see what he looks like. I think it gives a lot of play. If he doesn't have the same hunger of like, I have to get that record now that he has that record, having to, extending the record is like great, but also, I mean, without Rafa chasing him, it kind of, he kind of just can kind of sit back a little bit. If Rafa was at Wimbledon, I think it would be more pressing, like, oh shit, I better get another one. But I mean, I'm excited to see what he looks like at Wimbledon, but I also think a lot of other players coming back to Wimbledon will make it really, really exciting. And maybe, out of, outside of Djokovic, an open Wimbledon, right? Crazy tournament. None of us. Nol regains the number one ranking from Carlos. Yep. How many points ahead is he now? Novak didn't get points from Wimbledon last year, and Carlos didn't get points from Al this year. He is a 400 points ahead. 400.  And that, if he wins Halla, Djokovic is forced to play before Wimbledon. So Djokovic is only 400 ahead. So that's sketchy. Elkres at Queens Club or Halla has to win, and he can take back the record, take back the ranking before Wimbledon. Is he gonna win one of those? Possibly not, because he's, yeah, I don't know. But, yeah. I mean, Djokovic might have to play one of those now because of that possibility. Interesting. Unpopular pillion, Djokovic doesn't win Wimbledon next. I'm interested to see how he plays.  That's easy. He got that every year, whatever. I have a virat, I'm not gonna say that he can't win Wimbledon. He's not gonna win it. I think he will. But like I said, I wanna see what, what is next finale? Like, what's the next goal? What's the motivation? Calender slam obviously is definitely one, someone said so, yeah. But like, you know, this was the big one. This was the ultimate, like this was the I want the slam record. I'm playing for slams. I'm playing for the record. He's got it. I wanna, I don't know, I wanna see it. I don't know.  Business, he doesn't, business as usual. But I don't know. I'm excited for it though. Man, I watch it in a couple weeks time. Imagine if Nolle, no back with a smile on his face when he gets home. I mean, dude, yeah. He just predicted himself to win Wimbledon. He wants to be better than Roger, the Wimbledon darling. True, I mean, that, that getting more, more Wimbledon than Roger, true. Next game is 30, 30 is a little much, I think. It's a little, a little much. Unfortunately, the 25s, right there. 25 is right there. Wimbledon is always dicey. If you get a bad draw, yeah. If you get big servers, I mean, look at, look at the players that have beaten Jockers at Wimbledon, right?  So Wimbledon, the draw is gonna be interesting to see who Jockervich has to play, but if he gets a nice draw, he's only gonna play himself in. There's a difference between not getting points after winning and not winning at all. Well, yeah, I mean, a grand slam is a grand slam. No one's gonna say Jockervich didn't win Wimbledon. Just didn't get points for it. I worry for anyone who has Rownish in the draw. Yeah, Riggs, that's gonna be scary. That'll be scary. He wants to beat Connors 109, but only with slams. Maybe. He'll probably tell us. This has been great. Congrats on all the new members and record viewers. Thank you. Yeah, we had officially 15,000 people in the chat as a match point. So that's just ridiculous. I mean, this week we've smashed records. As, like I said, on a personal note, it's ridiculous that this channel, just what I think we've had, we're doing all right. We kicked down the next door. So it's crazy. WT had much better matches than this. Yeah, people say that. I think the Elkres-Jockervich match would have been the match of the tournament had it been finished completely. I think the women's final was, Sabalenka's match against Mukova and the final for the women's was the best matches of the tournament for them. And then, but then on the men's side, I mean, match of the event. Tell me in the chat, what was the biggest, what's the best match of the tournament, you reckon? I mean, probably Sinner versus Altmire in terms of epicness. Runa versus Cerundolo was epic. Montfies played an epic at the start. Stan Kokonakis was pretty epic. What about Medvedev in the five? So we didn't really get to see too many, the WT final was epic. Yeah, on the women's side, there was a lot more, felt like a lot closer matches. We had the Jaburr match with Adadmire. Obviously the Sabalenka match was epic. We had this final was epic. I'm sure I'm missing a whole lot of others. Was this the best match? This wasn't the best match of the tournament, no. Elkres in the quarters was immense. Yeah, I mean, if you want to talk about best match in terms of like most impressive match there, for sure. Elkres whooping city pass was huge. Hopefully next year on Wind Slams, they will. They will. I want to see what Zverev does at Wimbledon. Zverev, Djokovic at Wimbledon, third round. What's that look like? What does that look like? Fakina Djokovic, yeah, that was a good match. Opinion on Mira on Drava, great. Awesome to see her play this week. Again, we saw her play golf, it was awesome. She looks scary. Do we miss Roger? Always, I saw a highlight of Roger the other day. And it was just like, it was something like Roger hitting the ball, it was at the US Open from like four years ago.  And I was like, just how clean he hit the ball. No one hits the ball that clean as clean as Roger. And the shot making, the variety, I mean, yeah. Just like I miss watching Rafa. I mean, the intensity, the forehand, Carlos fans still crying. No, I don't think that. Hey, his movement. Yeah, I mean, yeah, incredible, incredible. Rubella plus Medi, okay. That's why Roger is the best to a lot of people. He was classical player. Yeah, exactly. And that's fine. You can have, everyone can have their favorites. Thanks for a great four night. See you later. No worries. Thank you, Gilbert. Appreciate that. But yes, we have, we've got the ranking show coming up. So it's gonna be a lot of fun. Ranking show coming up today. Or in like a little bit. Cam is the same way. Did you embrace Novak's, what, what? Nadal's 20 second Grand Slam. You seem to have known with Morjokamich.    So I'm not going to roast you.   Because you're probably a Rafa fan that's a little bit hurt. That's fine. So I'm gonna let it slide. But go watch the 21, the 21 slams Rafa one of these shown up in last year and then come back and talk to me. Just a question. Didn't sound like a question. Sounded like you were accusing me of not being as excited for Rafa than I was with Norley. Go check out the 21 slams and you'll see how excited I was about the record breaking. Will Elkres play Djokovic the US in final? Oh, it depends on where they ranked. You know, by that time, Elkres might be number two or he might be number four. I mean, well, Djokovic could be somewhere else. Cam is very fair. Thank you. I mean, I think I probably, Djokovic fans would argue that I got more excited when Rafa won 21 than I did today. So, you know, you can go watch that and make up your own minds. Favorite match was Alcaraz versus Novak. Nice. Great cat and mouse game for two sets before the cramps set in which was shocking. Also, Alcaraz shot surfing on clay was mind blowing. The round the legs. Yeah, there was some crazy shots at this event. Root played a great point in this one where he hit a tweener and then ended up winning the point. So that was fun. No 21, 23 shot. What are you talking about? There's a link in the chat. You want to get the 23 shot? You can. There it is. No. 23. If you notice as well, the clay is in the shape of the French, the country of France. So, French open 23, the clay. I can get it in all different colors. Go check it out. Link in the chat. Only 20 bucks as well. So, we chucked it up for 20 this time around. Go grab your historic moments. Memorabilia now. And you can still get the other stuff as well. We won, someone bought Rafa 22 the other day, which I love to think of that. Can't wait for Wimby.  Root fought a lot harder than this time. Respect. Yeah, agree. Agree. Show us your excited for Rafa face and excited for Djokovic face. Let's go watch the replays. I'm not gonna. I can't get excited fake. I'm just gonna fake excitement. It's not how tennis work. It's not how I work. I can't just be like, Rafa what? Like, this is a cringe, cringy. Australia is the champion of World Test cricket. Of course we are. Is that a shock? Of course we are. When is Keeg coming back? Tomorrow, I think. I think Kira's is playing tomorrow. I'm looking at, he's playing a woo tomorrow. And Stuttgart, so yay. Now, what's gonna happen next chat? We're not going to be doing much because I am wrecked and I need a couple of days to just chill. And I think we all do and celebrate. Celebrate a good, great clay court season because it's effectively ended. And also to regroup for what's next with Wimbledon coming up and all the main tournaments. So, yeah, we'll obviously bring content coming out because we're not going to stop, but. Yeah, next week, Stuttgart, Netherlands. There's a couple of tournaments there. Like I said, with, you know, Kira's coming back. That's fun. Who's playing on the men's side next week? So we've got Kira, Sidney Pass is playing, which is odd to see him so quickly playing on grass. Fritz, Tiafo, Kiraos. So, look, we might watch matches later in the week, but I don't have any plans on watching matches tomorrow. Medvedev, Sinner, they're all playing next week as well when we're looking at the grass. So, yeah, like I said, we're all going to take a couple of days. They're not going to play until Wednesday, most of those guys, except for Kiraos. On the women's side, I think it's nodding him, yep. Nodding him and you've got, on the women's side, Kudamatova, Samsonova, so the small, outside the top 10 names. You've got Sacri playing next week on grass. So, look, there's a couple of names there, but as I said, we need a few days. I think we need a few days to recover from the madness that has been the last couple of hours. I mean, the last couple of days, I mean, I'm still not over the Okras match. I'm still wrecked from that. They build up, I mean, Okras got cramps because he was nervous, I was nervous. Luckily, I'm sitting in a chair, so I don't cramp, but I need a few days to breathe in some fresh air and touch grass, and also probably go reply to my messages and check if my mailbox has any bills. Yeah, yeah, don't expect much the next week. I think we all deserve a break, but yeah, during the weekend, maybe next week, we'll probably watch a couple of matches just to see what the grass looks like, get our feet on the grass, and then we'll be watching the week after that. Business as usual, we've gone crazy because that's when things get real hectic. Pretty much everyone's playing in that middle week of the grass season, so that's when I'm going to go nuts. And then we'll go wimbledon the week after that, so back to the grind. Norris Law, I thank you for joining us. Now, I need to get a haircut. I need to get rid of this disgusting look. My mom always says I need a rest from the fuzzy ball. It's funny. Grass season two short day. We'll watch it. Queens and Huller is on starting at the 19th, it starts. But Berlin for the ladies is massive too, so we're going to have like a bunch of matches. No grass masters, nope, nope. So that's that. That's the answer to that question. We're going to stick around, keep asking questions. We'll debrief all the French open things, get them out of your system, celebrations, commiserations, future things. I'm not touching grass over 100 degrees outside. Okay, we'll wait until it gets dark and then maybe go outside in the nighttime. Can we'll be back looking five years younger? Probably. Hopefully.  Yep, it was pretty crazy. It was very crazy. Still can't come out of the Triantec victory hangover, yeah.    It's all a blur. Who's the biggest underachiever or overachiever? Man, that's a deep question. Why is there no buses on grass? Because I don't know, just because there isn't. They just haven't got one yet. WJ given us back to back epics for sure. Just bought Nolay 23 shirt. Hey, thank you. I'll give a shout out to those who have. If you bought the shirt, appreciate the support and support the channel.  So we've got Phillip, Gigi, Mason, Robert, and Karen buying a shirt. So thank you for buying a Nolay 23 shirt. If you wanna go buy one, link in the chat. Root is my next favorite after Nolay. Nice. See you later, Ganesha. Appreciate you being here. Queen should be upgraded to 1,000 and Monte Carlo bumped down. Savage. Do you think Roger and Rafa care they have been passed? I think both of them broke the record. So I feel like they both, like if neither of them had broken the record and Jochimich had always had it, then maybe, but Rafa broke it last year. He got to 21 first. Roger got to 20. So I don't think they're too bothered. Federer's living his best life.  He's off there doing whatever he wants. And I'm sure Rafa's not, you know, that bothered. Rafa fans are more hurt than, I think the fans of those guys are more upset than the players. I don't think Rafa himself is really that, like, oh, he's probably not that bothered. Rafa's treat was nice. Yeah, they're probably gonna, I mean, yeah.  Yeah, they're gonna congrats. Everyone's gonna congrats. Yeah, Berlin is a 500 event. That's it. Yeah, Rafa fan here are not hurt. Exactly.   But 95% of the Rafa fans are like, congrats. But those, there's a 5%.  You doubt those percentages? Well, I'm giving everyone the benefit of the doubt that not everyone is crazy.   You know, like just crazy people that take it to personal. It's a sport. It's for fun. Don't take it too serious. Try being an Australian. And then I'll let you talk to me. Try being an Aussie tennis fan. Try to, then we're gonna have a chat. Then you'll accept, then you won't freak out as much. You're just kind of like, ah, we just accept everything. We're never gonna be that good anymore. Yeah, look, some of you in the chat are in that 5%, but at least you admit it.  Is that fine? Do whatever you want. But I'm not gonna say Rafa fans are angry because that's not true. Hey, thank you Ray for buying some of the merch as well. Appreciate that. No era can stop no back. I mean, Alcares is getting close. Let's be real. You gotta be honest. Alcares is getting a little scary, a little close. Just appreciate Cam giving Rafa his due while Rafa was ahead in the slam race. Yeah, like I said, Rafa broke the record. That Federer set, Federer set the record. And then he's always broken the record again. Like all the three have done, the big three have just set records, broken each other's things. Like it's, it's, they've all had their time at the top of the record, you know, which is nice. I like it. It would have been a shame if like Roger had it and then Nolle had it and then Rafa didn't have it. Or, you know, if, you know, Nolle didn't have it and Rafa had it and Roger had it. They've all had their time as the best, as the most slams in the world. You know what I mean? Like it's nice that they've all had it. You know, at one point, Roger had the record. At one point, Rafa had the record and now Nolle has it. So it's like, it's nice that everyone's had their time in the sun as the most slams in the world. For a, for a while there, Rafa didn't look like he was going to get the most.  And then, then obviously forever Nolle, but like it's nice that Rafa got those couple that Rafa winning last year, if he didn't, like if Djokovic played this show and maybe Rafa wouldn't have got it. So it's everyone should celebrate that their guy held that record for, you know, a few tournaments or for a few years or whatever. You know, I might start to see Venus back. Yeah, I'm excited to see what she can do. Thank you, Dawn. Thank you for buying some merch. Appreciate that. Thank you, Dawn. Alcrest could get number one ranking at Queens. Yep, if he wins Queens Club, he could be back on top. He could be back. Oh, we still got 2,000 people in the house. What's up? Love to hear it. And I love to see it. It was 2017 when Djokovic was 17 slams. I know now he's got six while they've got two combined. I mean, it's crazy, right? Are we seeing various teeny on grass? I think so. Don't know when, but I think we are. We are. Novak has the number one spot to look for out for. Well, he's got that now. So he's got it.  Alcrest is still hanging around. I don't know if Baratini's back. I don't know. I don't know. Cam, what are your thoughts on Novak? On 30, if Novak wins Calender Slam and gets 25 this year. I think 30 is a long way away. 30 is too, like, I'm not gonna say he can't do it, but if you think 30 is the next goal, then you're gonna dismiss if he wins 25, you know? If he wins third, if he doesn't get 30, then 25 is gonna be a disappointment. So I'd rather people, especially Djokovic fans, look at 25 as like the next big thing and then go to 30. Cause that way when it gets, if you do get to 25, you will celebrate it as a massive deal, cause it is.  You know what I mean? So celebrate 25 and then look at 30. And if you don't get to 30, that's fine. But if you think 30 is the goal, then you're probably not gonna enjoy the rest.  Damn, and it's like, well, that's a pretty big deal.  Don't look at 30 just yet or 25 even just yet because he's just gotten the record. I mean, is it not enough? I mean, get excited for this and then, and then look at the next one. At least enjoy this one. Yeah, enjoy 23 exactly. He's got the most. I mean, enjoy it. Why does Djokovic struggle at the US Open? Well, he's at the end of the season, so he gets tired. 25 is definitely possible. 30 is surely pushing it. Yeah, 30 is if Elkarez gets injured and Mevvedev disappears, and a lot of things have to happen for a lot. I think a lot of people have to not play. Yeah. I reckon 27 is probably pretty realistic for more. But I know, Djokovic fans are saying he's gonna win this calendar slam this year. So that's, you know, 30 can't happen. Yeah, 30 can only happen if a lot of things go right over the next couple of years and Djokovic is only getting older and Elkarez is only getting better and Mevvedev's getting confident again and there's a lot of players that are just getting better. Djokovic getting older. You don't wanna see Djokovic, the sad part would be if you saw Djokovic play for three, four years, trying to get to 30 and starting to just fall off. Well, you don't wanna see Djokovic.  So if he gets to 25 or more, you wanna see him end as like competitive in the last, you don't wanna see him play for two, three years and you don't wanna see him like fade away even though he's done great things. You know what I mean? So you don't wanna see that happen. Anonymous. Cam, for example, in other sports like Formula One, they have Ayrton Senna as the greatest with three world championships and Lewis Hamilton has seven world championships. So why in tennis grand slams matters most to be the goat? I think the people decide the goat. I thought Lewis Hamilton was the goat. Is he not the goat? I thought Lewis Hamilton was considered the greatest of all time. Am I wrong? I think every sport's different. They have different criteria. NBA, it's not just based on titles. Tennis is based on grand slams first. I think we, you win the most of the big trophies. I mean, it started when Sampris won 14. Sampris was the greatest tennis player to ever play tennis. So Federer came along. He had 14. Go, I watched a documentary about Sampris from 2003, I think it was. Go watch it on YouTube. It's on YouTube. And during that, they say he's the greatest ever do it. He's the greatest tennis player of all time. He's the greatest. 14 slams, Sampris is the goat. And then Federer came along and went, I'll hold my beer. And then Rafa said, well, you know, hold my beer. And then Djokovic said, you know, hold my vegan beer. So I think grand slam record is the most. And also, you know, weeks in number one, I think those two things are the most important. In tennis, in other sports, it's different. In other sports, there's other criteria. There's not like a set rule of who, how do you find a goat in every sport? Well, they have to do this, this and this. It's like for basketball, it's this, for this, it's this. For golf, it's that, for whatever, whatever. And for tennis, we start with the grand slams. And then we go down from there. Sabalenka Rabakina, who wins more slams? Rabakina, because she has more time. She's gonna be around for longer. Rabakina wins one more than Sabalenka. I don't know how many, but she wins one more. Nolay has been in first place since 2021. We all know this, but few admit it, okay? Cam, you prove there is no curse. Thank you. I know, finally, we can put it to bed that there is, and the Cam curse is not real. It is not real. It's not real, Chad. It's not real. It's not real. I picked Novak and I picked Svjontek to win the whole tournament. And I told you it was boring, but I also told you it was, who was gonna win, so. It's not too bad. Not a miss. Cam, everyone talking about Al-Karaz's body, injuries and cramps. Dude just turned 20 last month. Did the goats not cramp or have physical issues at 19 or 20? Yes. Rafa has a foot problem from 2005, yet he kept playing. Doctors said he shouldn't play because it was never gonna work. He had one slam when the doctors told him that. Now he is 22.   It was a bit of a butt of a joke for a while. He was always retiring. He's now got 23. So Al-Karaz might cramp and he might get injuries and all that stuff.  Doesn't mean he can't go on and win a lot of slams. It just means that he's just got to figure out why he's cramping or why the body's a problem. He's young, I mean, he's only 20. He's only 20, I mean, you were right. Just turned 20 as well. Not like I'm a 25 for sure, 30, it's a question. Well, once you get to 25, we can then make, then we can crunch the numbers, right? Make some tougher.  So it's good that he can sort it out now before things get too much. Algrist can cramp one day and next day be a beast. Well, that's the thing, we've only seen him cramping twice this year. One against Sinner in the Miami semis and then here. So it's only happened twice.  So I don't know if it's a constant thing. It might just be a one-off every now and again, but if he sorts it out, then that's the only thing stopping him. Yeah, he got injured at the end of last year, but again, that's probably because he put himself through so much last year in terms of what he did, you know, physically cramped against Norrie. No, did he, I thought he got hurt against Norrie. He got hurt against Norrie. He hurt himself. I think he hurt his, did he hurt his leg? Can't remember. But yeah, he hurt himself against Norrie and pulled out of back of polka. So it wasn't cramping. I don't think it was cramp. Camp course doesn't work on goats. It doesn't even work. Camp case doesn't work. I've gotten, I got Sabalenka, Jabur, Zverev and Runa wrong. I got four predictions wrong, Chad. I got four out of a million. Wait, hang on. How many, okay, so wait, how many did I actually get wrong? The four, eight, 12, four, I got four, I got 10 out of 14, right, Chad? That's actually probably my best predictions yet. That's probably my best predictions. Actually Chad, let's do something fun. Let's go through my predictions on the second channel because I wanna see now how, how I actually, how dumb I sound.  All right Chad, we're gonna go through this together because this is fun. Where are we? Here we are. If you haven't joined the second channel, Tennis Talk Plus. Not a passing grade. Passing is 50%. And I got more than, I got, I got what? 10 out of 14. That's more than 50. I got a 71%.  If you're any, any sports better on the chat is 71% of picks not good. No, you'd kill for that. Everybody would kill for that. All right, let's go have a look at what stupidity I've, what I said at the start of the tournament. Oh God, I don't wanna do this now. I've changed my mind. All right, so there it is chat. If you wanna go follow the second channel, Tennis Talk Plus, link in the chat. All right, you ready? You're ready to hear what I have to say, what I have to say at the start of the week.  So the French have been starting in a couple of hours time. I thought it'd be a good idea to go through last minute predictions and not just the usual predictions of who's gonna win the tournament, but a lot more detailed predictions. And at the end of the tournament, we can see how many I get right or more likely how many I get wrong. So for this one, I think Sidney Pass is gonna have a better tournament than Mevadev. I know it's a little bit tougher, maybe with Alkreis in the way, but I don't know, I just don't feel like Mevadev is gonna have the best event, even though he is coming in with some good form. I think Sidney Pass is gonna have a better event than Mevadev in this one. Genius, one for one. All right, next. I think the qualifiers that are gonna do well on the men and women side, I think Carrotsev, who also proved in- Okay, well, he lost in the second round, so that wasn't a good take. That wasn't good. He lost the TR4, I thought he'd be better. Drew that he can do well on the clay. I think he's gonna be the best of the qualies in the men's draw. And I think on the women's side, on Drava, she's been on such a good run at the moment.  Do you reckon I got, I think on Drava was good. I mean, she got, she lost the golf, she got to the third round. You give me, do you give me on Drava? That's a good one. You reckon that's a good one? Or do you think that she should have made it further? And I, maybe I'm, I feel like I got on Drava. Maybe not. Carrots if I got wrong. Carrots if I got wrong. Yeah, one out of two. Okay, all right. Torrance on Clay, I think those two are the ones to watch and they're gonna have the best results as the qualifiers. Now, I don't know how we're gonna determine this because I don't know if we can actually find out this answer. When it comes to fastest serve, I've got to go with Bublick for the men and Sabalinka for the ladies. I think they're gonna hit big serves. I don't know if they're gonna go as far in the event as maybe some predict. I don't know if we can figure that out. Anybody know who had the fastest serves? Does anybody, anybody know? I don't, I don't know how we can figure that out. Third round is good for a quality. Okay. She could have made fourth round to be honest. Yeah, but she made third round. Is that not good enough? Is that not good enough? Third round's not good enough? I mean, anyways, we'll figure this out later. Greatest of all time is Mount Goat. Steven! Great work as always, Cam. Thank you. We appreciate what you do. Appreciate it. Is Djokovic the only player to have three grand slams for each major? Curious. Hey, thank you, Steven. Can we get some solutions for Steven in the chapter 20 of the 20? Thank you for the nice words. On the men's side, yes. Because nobody had won, Rafa had won two at everything. So did Djokovic, so he's got three at everything. That's the only guy. I don't know if on the ladies side, Serena won three of everything, but maybe. She went three, French, I don't know. Serena went three French, one, two. Yes, so Serena won three of everything. Steffi won three of everything. So he's not the only player of all time, but he's the only male to do it. Steffi has four of everything, there you go. There you go, thank you for the 20. Sorry, I didn't get to that earlier. All right, so Sabalenka in public. I mean, Sabalenka had the fastest serve. Who had the men's fastest serve? Who had the men's fastest serve? Coco Goff hit 195. I don't know the definitive answer. Tiarfo, really? Big foe had the fastest men's serve, okay. That was a bit of a random one. I mean, how do you figure that out? Look, I don't think he likes playing on clay, but doesn't mean he can't hit the biggest serve in a first round loss. Oh, here we go. The players that I think are gonna have an unseeded run making the fourth round all further, I think it's gonna be Jerry on the men's side who's been so good on the clay.  Now, if that wasn't easy, that was easy. That was easy. That was easy. And had some really big wins on the clay this season. That was easy. On the women's side, I think Von Drusava. Okay, well, let me explain this, all right. So I picked Von Drusava, she lost in the second round. I had picked Mukava. But at the last minute, I edited out Mukava and I put in Von Drusava. I had Mukava, but I edited the video at the last minute. I'm like, you know what? No, no, no, I'm gonna pick Von Drusava. So that's my bad. Is gonna have a great run at the French Open as an unseeded player. Has made a final hit before, so she knows how to play this tournament. You don't believe me? I can show you the raw footage. I can show you the raw footage. I'll play it right now. I'll show you. You don't believe me? I'll play the audio right now. I was so, I'm so annoyed that I didn't stick with my gut on that one. I said, dumb.  That's gonna remember which one it is. I'll prove you, I'll show you. I'll show you. I did, I edited it out, I did. The original, my original pick was Mukava.  Which one was it? Was this one? This one. All right, here's some raw edits. With the French, whoops. When it comes to fastest serve. Nah, that's that. Prediction, a little bit of a weird. Which one's this one? Dude, I think Shveontech would do, whoops. When it comes to fastest serve in a first round loss. Where did I put it? A little bit of a weird category. Let's see what happens. Like right or more likely, I think those two. Where'd I put it? Nah, half. The men's world number one ranked upset in the first week. And I think, oh, we're gonna, those players from each, I'm gonna show you later, Chad, I'll find it, don't you worry. I'm not getting away, I'm not giving you that one. Okay. So out of these two, I think Shveontech would do the better out of the two, better than Sabalenka will in the draw, of course, the one and two in the world. And they're both playing for the number one ranking is this time, but I'm gonna go with Shveontech to have a better run than Sabalenka this one. That was lucky. I just got away with that one. Just, whoo, just. There's a little bit of a strange category, but I'm gonna go with the Czech Republic to have them. Now, I don't think this one, I think this was America, wasn't it? Did America win this one? I can't remember. I don't think the Czech, the Czech didn't do it. The Czech players didn't do that. Most wins. Actually, that's a lie. One made the frigging final. Hang on, hang on. Who was the most winning this country? Lechka got two wins. I'm gonna have to do a recount. We'll have to figure it out, but. As a collective on the mental, we'll have to make the final, maybe. Just ahead of America, who have a lot of players as well, but I think the Czech Republic will be the most winningest country in this one. Maybe. All right, here we go. My best take, ready? All right, top 10 upsets, I think FAA, Felix Ojelecim, who's also coming in with an injury. I think he will have a big upset in the first week. But I think Coco Gough, my. Don't judge me. Don't judge me. Don't judge me. She wasn't playing well. Don't judge me. I'd be upset in the first week on the ladies side. Don't worry, Chad, it gets worse. You can laugh at me next time.  Pay attention. When it comes to dark horses, I'm gonna go with a Dajmaja on the. Whoa. On the ladies side, a little bit of an outside pick. She has played well on the clay in doubles. So I'm gonna say that she is my dark horse for the event. On the men's side, I'm gonna go with Karine Hash. All right. It was very good. God, this guy knows who he's talking about. I know what he's talking about. He's not bad. At Grand Slam. That's not bad. My back horses for this event. All right, that's not bad. Of course, the men's world number one ranking at stake and Djokovic and Elkara is fighting for that ranking amongst the Medvedev as well. But I think Djokovic is gonna have a better tournament than Elkara is at the French Open this year. What's the score? The scores, I'm at least 90%. All right, Chad, now don't laugh.  Don't laugh. Don't you laugh. My hot take for the event. I think Medvedev and Sabalenka are not gonna do as well as maybe everyone thinks. Of course, Sabalenka having won Madrid and Medvedev having the best season on clay for his whole career. I think both of them are gonna lose early. Maybe not the first two rounds, but I don't think they're gonna go as far as everyone thinks. I was half right. I mean, the Medvedev one's pretty good, Chad. You gotta give me that. You gotta give me that. I mean, many, many losing in the first days. I mean, that's not nothing. I mean, but the Sabalenka one's trash. Sabalenka's trash.  Come on, that's the worst one.  I'm so sorry.  I just remembered that I picked this too. Maybe he lost because of me? No, because I picked him. I didn't, that's not a curse if I made, if I predictioned. Anyways. So we're getting into the serious stuff now. Who is gonna make it into the semifinals? I think we're gonna have Shriontek taking on Jabir. I wasn't far away. That was only one set away from being true. One of the semifinals, I think Pagola and Kazakina. That was not even close. I'm gonna meet the other semifinal on the women's side on the men's side. I think it's gonna be Djokovic and Sidney Paz. I wanna apologize to all the Elkras fans out there. That was my bad. I apologize to all the Elkras fans for picking Sidney Paz. In the top half. It gets worse. The draw, and in the bottom half of the draw, I think we're gonna get Sinner taking on Runa. Okay, this is probably my worst take. I mean, I got one out of four. Sidney Paz didn't even show up to Elkras. Sinner was dead in the second round. Runa lost to Rude. I mean, no Rude spect. Pagola was a horrible pick. I mean, yeah. Look, to defend my pick, Sidney Paz, Rude. Sorry, Sidney Paz, Runa, Kazakina, and Jabir made it to the fourth and quarter finals. So it's not like they didn't, just Sinner and Pagola were terrible. In the semifinals. Steph beating Carlos. Okay, Steph beating Kaz. I apologize to all the Elkras fans, all right? I'm sorry. And then my last take, my ultimate win. And the big one. Who is going to win the tournament?  Djokovic, Svjonsi. Thank you. I'll see you next time. I'll see you in Wimbledon. Thank you. Appreciate it. You've been great. You've been great. Thank you. Thank, no, no, no. Thank you, Chad. Thank you, Chad, for believing in me. Thank you. Thank you. Just for the record, this video came out two weeks ago. Not, it didn't come out today. It came out two weeks ago. Thank you, Chad. Thank you, Chad. Appreciate it. Thank you. I did my job. I did my job. And that's the end of the video. Well, then there's an outro, but it's boring. Not bad. I don't think I did that bad. I mean, it can only get worse. I can only get worse at Wimbledon. I'm probably gonna get like two right. But yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm not terrible. Some of them are terrible. Sabalenko playing bad, that didn't happen. Goff not playing well, that didn't really happen. Not too bad. Yeah, not too bad. I'll take it. I'm pretty happy with that, what I said this week. With my predictions. I was pretty happy with that. Wimbledon's gonna be a whole nother thing. L.A. kept score. Okay. Why did you have to be so tough to beat a Wimbledon? Because no one else can play on grass. You have to wait for that video to come out of a Wimbledon. You have to wait. Can't wait for the Wimbledon predictions. Well, not your cameras. Now look, it's only downhill from here, Chad. You know that. This is only gonna get, I'm in a, I might never do another one again because that was actually not too bad. Thanks for the great coverage, Noah. It's Connie, thanks for joining us. Did Murray win today? Probably. Somebody said in the chat that he won the first set, I think, right? I don't know. Did Murray win chat? You tell me. How's the fan slam? I don't think it's updated yet. My fan slam is trash, but I don't know if it's updated. Wimbledon will be fine for sure. By the way, follow me on the second channel because those videos are coming out on the second channel. So, and we've got another video coming up as well on the second channel and hopefully in a week. So, if you want to follow us on the second channel and look at, we've got different stuff over there. So, we'll do those videos over there. Did you know I'm Djokovic, which, I'm Djokovic, which is the biggest fan. So, Ethan, I don't know what you're saying. I'm not sure what you're saying. Oh, Murray won. There you go. Murray won the challenger. He won the challenger. Now, Chad, I just need to prove something to, just so I keep my reputation. All right, Chad, here we go. I'm gonna play this audio because this is what happened. I should have picked her. Gonna have an unseeded run, making the fourth round all further. I think it's gonna be Jerry on the men's side. He's been so good on the clay and had some really big wins on the clay this season. And on the women's side, I think Mukova is gonna have the best run on the women's side as an unseeded player. And then I edited it out and I put Vondrussa in stead chat. I said Mukova first and then I cut it out.  I said her first chat. Give me half a point. Give me half a point. I didn't trust my gut.  Sorry, man, I say I'm the biggest chocolate fan. Oh, nice, Ethan. Well, you must be happy. You must be happy. Oh, my God. I edited it. I think Dasher beat Vondrussa so I went against Dasher. I, it's my own fault, Chad. My own fault. But it doesn't count unless it's in the video. I missed it. I know. I could have been looking like an uber genius. I could have looked like an absolute, I would have been an absolute God of predictions. But I cut it out so it doesn't count. Doesn't count. Half a point doesn't count. I don't get no points for that. You lose the competition for that.   You did well. I'm pretty happy with that. I'm pretty happy with that. It wasn't that bad. I didn't do that bad. Jokes aside, I didn't do that bad. I'm pretty happy with my results. Pretty happy with the predictions. Almost perfect. Almost perfect. Yeah, you always gotta trust your gut. Dasher is busy with her YouTube channel nowadays, if that's fair enough. I did, yeah.  No. Picking Djokovic to Sfiontek is that was the most boring, easy, basic pick of all time.  And I did. I went with the favorites and they won. So is it really that good? I don't think so. Last or should be rude? Well, I didn't pick rude. I picked Djokovic. So it's only the ones that I picked that apparently get lose. Hashtagmire were good picks. Yeah, Hadagmire was wired. When she actually got to the semis, I was like, Jesus, like I picked her kind of out. I was gonna pick Kudamatova. Thank God I didn't. Hashtagmire felt confident, but yeah, Hadagmire was a little bit of a shot in the dark. I kind of saw her draw and I thought, you know what? She's got a pretty good draw if she can get through Rabakina. Didn't have to. So I kind of picked her out of a little bit of, it was a little bit out there, but sometimes they're the ones that make for the best picks. Cam takes an ice cream truck around the neighborhood and announces his predictions. No, no, only to the chat. Only to all of you. Anyways, chat, we're gonna get, I mean, it's nearly four in the morning. I'll tell you what I'm up to now. Thanks for sticking around. Actually, you know what? Because there's still, we've still got over a thousand people in the chat, like two hours, an hour removed from the match.   All right, let me get, by the way, again, follow me on the second channel, whatever. We'll give away a no-lay shirt. Who wants a no-lay shirt?  What are you doing here? Leave, it's over, the match is done. The French Open's done, but I'll give you something to leave with. So, how do I do this? I've forgotten how to do this. Oh, okay. All right. All right, now, if you are a member of the channel, you do get a little bit luckier, but write no-lay in the chat if you want to be a part of this giveaway. No-lay is the special key, is the special word. If you want to be a part of this, this giveaway, no-lay is, no-lay is the, what's going to do this? There we go. Kind of. Wait, is that right? Why does it look so bad?  Oh no, I remember. All right. No-lay is the special word. I don't know why it looks so weird. It must have changed their website. All right. No-lay, if you want to be a part of this, hopefully if I press this it will make it work. That's it, I'll give you another 20 seconds to get your, get your, get things going. And while we do that, well, while you guys all spam no-lay, I just want to say a big thank you to the mods. Thank you Dawn especially who's been here pretty much every day, just sorting out the chat. Thank you so much Dawn for all the hard work. It's that man Pat and have been here as well. So I appreciate those guys jumping on as well every now and again to just kind of give a hand. So I appreciate that. Thanks to all the, everyone who's been here. It's all the new members. We've got a bunch of new members that have joined. So thank you for that. All those who've donated, especially thanks to Giovanni who donated, Magdalena, all the donations like Simon today. Man, I'm going to forget so many people, but there's a lot of people who donate it every day. If you donated a dollar, I mean, thank you, you didn't have to.  You don't need to give any money. This is a free stream. So you don't have to like pay your way. So I appreciate all those who did donate or gives memberships, any of that stuff. And hopefully, hopefully you'll learn something. That's my biggest thing. As long as you take something away from the stream, maybe you had a bad day and maybe you had a laugh at my expense because of my predictions are terrible. Maybe you learned something new about someone you didn't know or maybe you learned something new about someone you did know, someone of the players you did know. Appreciate all of you all being here. We had, I mean, we broke records again. I think we had, there was the biggest French open women's match ever yesterday. This match, I think we'll go down in history as one of the French open. We've got a lot of big matches because goats played a lot here. But like I said, 15,000 people here at the end of the match. Biggest match of the year so far, this one beats out Alcoraz, which is interesting. So this match actually beats out the Alcoraz, Djokovic matched the other day. So yeah, history, all that stuff. So yeah, so I appreciate all those things. All right, now, let's get to who's gonna win some shirts. Who wants a shirt? Who wants a shirt? I'm gonna figure out how to do this. All right, first winner, we're gonna do a couple is Hector. Congratulations Hector. Hector, you are now the proud owner of a Nolay 23 shirt. All you gotta do is email me, there's an email down below, send me the email with your details, the color of the shirt you want. Also the shirt size, so I can send it to you. So thank you Hector, let's go again. I'll give away a couple more, we'll give away three. All right, next, another channel member, Natural Hippy, congratulations. Members get extra luck, that's just how it works. Thank you, Natural Hippy, there you go, there you go. Actually, if you're still here, I'm sure you're still here. There you go, there's the message. Is Hector here as well? Did I see Hector in the chat? I can't see Hector in the chat. Is Hector here? Hopefully. Oh, you're here, good, good, good. Okay, again, send me an email with your details so I can send out the shirt. Don't, by the way, those who won the fan slam, I've got your hoodies on their way, so I don't know if some of you have messaged me. There are the merches on the way whoever's messaged me, emailed me. Last one, oh, it's Pat. Now, Statman Pat. Now, Statman Pat, I know, if you're still here, we can re-spin it because I know, I don't know if you want a no-lay shirt. I don't know if you want a no-lay shirt. Do you want a no-lay shirt, Pat, or do you want to give it, do you want me to re-spin? I'll give you the option, mate, because you won, so. Do you want it, do you want to win the no-lay, do you want it, mate?  It's up to you, mate, it's up to you. If you want it, you can. If you don't, I'll re-spin, someone else will get it. I did it for fun, oh! So, do you want to re-spin, do you want to re-spin?  It's yours if you want it. Re-spin, good lad. All right, here we go, who's gonna get it? Thanks, Statman Pat for, I know you're like Roger, so I'll hook you up with a Roger shirt, mate. Misha, there we go, Misha wins the third one. Thank you, Misha. A non-channel member, so a regular chatter, so there you go, Misha. If you're in the chat, let us know. Let us know if you're in the chat, hello. Pat, I'll talk to you offline and we can sort something else out, mate. I won't, you still won something, mate.   Congratulations, you are the winner of an oley shirt. Nice, there you go. So you can send that to, send me, again, all the winners, send me an email down below with your address, your color of the shirt and the size of the shirt that you want because that's why I can send it out to you. And if you want to buy the shirt, here it is, Nolay 23. You can see there it is Nolay 23, piece of history. You can buy it in all these different colors. And I think it looks best on the white because of the lines of the court, but you can buy it in black if you want as well. Supports the channel, they're only 20 bucks each. So supports the channel, all that stuff. Some of you already bought them, which is great. Shout out to all those who have bought them already. So thank you for that. And if you already bought one and you wanted the giveaway, I'll just refund you. All right, do we ship to India? Yeah, it should ship all, well, right. It should ship all everywhere, ships everywhere. I want a crew neck sweatshirt. All right, we might have to expand the store. All right, chat, we're gonna get out of here in a minute because I'm... Unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable, no. Unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable, unbelievable. I don't care about what they were saying. Super Mario. Is Rude ever going to beat the N-boss side? That is such a good term. It is the N-boss, isn't it? He comes up against the N-boss every time. The final boss versus it was Rafa, then it was Elkres, now it's Nolay. He will. Rude will win a slam, but he has to avoid. He will avoid Rafa because Rafa is almost at the end. Djokovic won't be around too much longer, so maybe there's a chance that he avoids Djokovic. Elkres is gonna be his biggest hurdle. And if he can avoid him, Rude can win a French Open, but he has to avoid Elkres. I don't think he can go through Elkres to win it. So he's kind of got that, he's got one of those, almost like the other guys. Some of the other guys have the same thing. They can win if this guy doesn't, or if this guy loses, right? So I think that's where we're sort of at with Rude. If he does, I mean, look, if he plays City Pass, that could be something. That could be definitely something. Why are we still alive? Because this is the final livestream of the tournament.  Debrief, thanks for the company, no worries. Did Rude ever play against City Pass? I can't remember. He has, but he hasn't played against me in a slam that I can think of. Yeah, he must avoid Elkres. Can you make women's sizes? I think they're unisex, so you can, it doesn't matter. Yeah, grass starts tomorrow. I don't know when we're gonna come back. I don't have any plans, like I actually have plans to not stream next week, but like I said, we'll probably pop in at some point to watch something, but as far as I'm concerned, Tennis is off next week.  You've all answered, sticking around, listening to me ramble on for two freaking weeks, I'm sure you're bored. You can go out and do normal things and hang out with your friends and touch grass and breathe air, everything I need to do. I'm speaking to myself now, but yeah, go and do all those things and we'll be back probably end of next week. Plenty of stuff coming out though. We've got the ranking show coming out today. That's what I'm gonna be working on after this. We've got plenty of stuff on during the week. We'll talk about some Wimbledon stuff. We'll talk about some post French Open things. There's some updates we've got to give as well. Plenty of things to talk about post French Open, but we all can take a couple of days just to relax and sleep. And then we're back on the grass, straight up next week, bang, on the grass. Plenty of players to watch. We might watch a few later in the week, but yeah, like I said, everybody, we can all have a week, a chilled out week until things get crazy again. Because things do get crazy. We've got four weeks of hardcore grass core tennis and I mean, we're getting crazy. But the grass is getting, we're getting crazy on the grass in a couple of weeks. Thank you everybody. Again, thank you so much to the mods, Stamamp, Pat, Dawn, Ange, jumping in. Hey, Misha, thank you for becoming a member. Appreciate that. You don't have to do that. Looking around suddenly on the shirt. But we're done. French Open, French Open 2023 over and out. And look, without Rafa, tennis is still pretty good. I know Rafa being there would have been better, but no tennis, no Rafa, no problem. Tennis lives on crazy how we've had some of the craziest match of the year have happened this year, this week. The final was crazy. The semi-final for the ladies was crazy. There was obviously that Elkarez and Djokovic match which was unfortunately not the one, didn't end the way we wanted, but it started the way we expected. Hopefully we get a rematch of that soon. But so much has happened this week. Mehvedev's losing early. Sinner losing early. Sidney Pastel can't get that Elkarez win. Rude proving to everybody that he shouldn't be underestimated. Runa is maybe not there yet. Elkarez isn't physically quite there yet with some of these matchups.  So very interested to see how this goes into Wimbledon, how many of these players can turn this into successful Wimbledon tournaments as well. It's not easy. Clay de Grasse, one of the hardest crossovers you can ask for. So we'll see if any of these really good French open players can go on and make the grass court season their own as well. We know Djokovic can, but the others we'll find out. I'll see you guys later in the week. Thanks for joining us. No back, Djokovic. 23 slams, history, history smashed because it's never happened on the men's side that someone's won 23 slams. Until today, 7, 6, 3, 7, 5. Kaspar Rude put up a fight. He tried his best to hang onto that record for Rafa. He tried his best holding Djokovic back, but it was just too much and Noley demolished him. Oh, it didn't demolish, that's a bit rude. Didn't demolish him, but beat him in the end in straight sets and Noley is on top of the mountain. He's the king of slams.


Oooooh!  Jacks? He's turned to pieces!


What would I rather do?  That's my whole life.  My entire life reeks of garbage, but you get used to it. Seagulls flying all over the place, but you get used to them. I have ten people. Ten people. That I get to chat with, share stories with, eat with, celebrate with. People are the flavor. People are the salt of the earth.


Snap to Ryan, Bucks bring a knee, he'll throw. Four-side, Gage, caught it, touchdown in Lata. Matt, guns it, caught, first touchdown in Lata in the end zone. And Ryan threw a rifle shot. Oh my goodness. Gonna throw it and socked. Turner first in 10, play fake to Hill. Matt up, throws, end zone caught, two feet down, yes!