I survived day three of driving in LA. They knew that flashing applause sign for everybody out there watching. Thanks for hanging out on the Friday, just in time for Brandon Marshall to recap DHOP's debut, which was incredible. I hang out with Derwin James, who faces and loves Gino Smith. You don't wanna miss that. We have game previews ahead of Mark Ingram. May join us for a tough conversation. Long flight home. Saints are two and five to start and this will be filled with beer. Perfect person to have here, of course, to preview all the action on Sunday and to recap what went on last night with the Andrew Hopkins. But last night, a beautiful, I mean, Al Michaels could not have been more gleeful and joyous. Celebrating a high scoring Thursday in a football situation, the Cardinals beating the Saints 42 to 35. That was the score, 42 to 34? I believe that was it. Is that right? Great, there we go. You can know what the score was. It was high scoring. That's all you need to know. Fantasy points galore. Back to back pick sixes at the end of the first half, giving us this beautiful viral moment. Can we take a look? I think we have it. The leap courtesy of, yes, Marco Wilson. What a gorgeous thing. Can we see that again? I missed that the first time around. I've only seen it a million times on the Twitterverse over there. Yes, it was beautiful. Everybody had their memes and gifts about it and it helped fuel the Cardinals to a win. This morning though, we're not talking about that. We're not talking about Taylor Swift. I haven't listened to it. Your thoughts. Someone in my, our control room rhymes with Schmoen says that it's not great. So let me know. How was midnight at up and Adam's show? This morning we are going to focus on the reunited and it feels so great situation between Deandra Hopkins and Kyler Murray. And we talked about this yesterday. We saw top tier Kyler Murray when Deandra Hopkins is there. And lo and behold, the most complete performance of the season from Kyler out of Kyler, even though he was yelling at Cliff Kingsbury telling him to calm the F down as the camera's picked up and we can all read, you know, mouth language here. But this is the first time all year he's posted a passer rating of over 100. And let me tell you, I am always very, and everyone knows I love DHOP. I am very nervous for players, coaches, whoever, celebrities, putting out too many hype videos. I'm a very undersell over deliver and you are setting the bar so high as we watched Deandra Hopkins clip after clip after chick talk after, you know, eight millimeter Scorsese film on black and white, whatever a film noir on his return and his comeback. I would rather just always show up quietly and pop on the scene and then ball out. And after last night, I was like, he didn't do enough. I could have used another highly produced music video because Nuke absolutely delivered. And you can just look at the box score to see how much DHOP means to Kyler's success. Maybe more than any quarterback, wide receiver duo in the league. And I mean that. If you check it out, Kyler completed 10 passes to Deandre for 100 yards, three yards and just two other passes to wide receivers on a day. So despite an incredible effort from an extremely short-handed Saints team, the Cardinals moved to three and four and they are right back in the thick of that wild NFC West race, which I likened to Game of Thrones where somebody's got to win and it's going to be the team that figures it out first. Robbie Anderson barely got involved. Give him a couple of weeks to maybe learn the playbook and feel reinvigorated and hopefully they make magic happen. And speaking of the NFC West, late night, bombshell, taking the steam right out of Taylor Swift's announcement, I think. We had the 49ers trading for running back Christian McCaffrey, sending back a second rounder in this year's draft along with three other picks. That is the news. I love it when this stuff happens to see one of the best, potentially most explosive, highest ceiling players in the NFL go to, what I do think is the best possible situation. And yes, Rams and Bills, great. They would have been attractive landing spots too, but Kyle Shanahan's offense will be built around the run game first. I think he goes to Buffalo. He's lost in the sauce a little bit with Stefan Diggs and company Rams. I don't really trust their offensive line with everything going on.  And I cannot wait to talk to Mark Ingram about this. And a huge moment, guys, for the Niners. According to Interrap Report, last night their main competition in this deal were the Rams. So to beat Sean McVeigh and Les Snead, Mr. and Mr. Fs and Picks bros at their own game and snatching away a superstar talent, such a win within a win. So I think they move drastically shifts the balance of power in the division. And I said it pre-season, and now this sort of reaffirms it. This is the team in the NFC that I think does go all the way. Take that staff. Anybody look at stats as tweets from last night? Hopefully he was happy about it. So Jim and Garoppolo, Christian McCaffrey, we'll see what they can do. All right, let's bring in our very good friend, six-time pro bowler, founder of the IAM athlete, media empire, Brandon Marshall. What's up, what's up, what's up? Hold on, what did you say? Who's going all the way? I think the Niners might represent the NFC this year. In the Super Bowl? Oh, yeah. K's Bowl prediction. What are you, who's their competition? In the NFC? Yeah, I'll wait. What, you got the Eagles? Of course, the Giants, the Eagles. Come on, that's, there's two there. Are you over Tom Brady? Are you one of those people that's over Tom Brady? Oh, Tom Brady and the Bucks, they lose to the Stillers. So now they're done. Tom Brady having troubles, they're done. It's Tom Brady. Do you have, if I were to ask you right now, which team is representing the NFC in the Super Bowl, you would pick the Tampa Bay Buccaneers?  No, no, no, no, no, no, I was doing too much. It's TV. Can I, can I? It's TV, K. It's TV. No, I'm all the Eagles. Who would you pick? Yeah, that's the Tampa Bay. The Eagles, for sure. The Eagles, I mean, I wouldn't even, I'll put the Bucks over, I'll put the Bucks over the Giants, but the Eagles to me are the most complete team in the NFL. A lot of people have the Buffalo Bills up there, and then the Eagles actually have the Eagles, then the Bills. I mean, what can't they not do, right? On a defensive side, they're front seven, they can get to the quarterback. They're secondary, are they the best in football? You know, Slay's super smart. Again, everybody in position, you also have on the offense side, they can run the ball, they can throw the ball, they have two wide receivers that are number ones. It's unbelievable, and they're having fun, and they're not playing selfish football. That's the tough part, right? A lot of times when you're in these type of situations, the selfishness can bring a team down. They're actually having a lot of fun, okay? They are, but I could argue all the same things for the Niners, so that's what I'm saying. What? One of the best defenses, let's be honest, and they'll get you, and then you add Christian McCaffrey to Shanahan with Debo, with Kittle, Kittle who's not even 100%, he hasn't really developed chemistry and limited work so far this season, and you have a quarterback that has been there and done that, and they obviously haven't gotten the prize that they all wanted you, but they've gotten to a Super Bowl. So I think, I guess my thing is, I think the Christian McCaffrey news is huge in the balance, not only in the West, but in the NFC, and you disagree. I yesterday, before this trade, would have said the Eagles, and now I'm saying the Niners. You don't think that's fair? No, listen, you're not far off.  Then they turn it on. Why do they turn it on? Because of everything you just said, or the two that I wanna highlight is the defense, and then Coach Shanahan. I think it's all the time, I gotta give him love every time, but he's the reason why I was drafted. Everybody thought I was a tight end, some people didn't even think I was good enough, and he called Coach Shanahan, the big Shanahan, Mike Shanahan and said, dad, you gotta take this guy. And they actually had a family argument because Coach Mike Shanahan wasn't gonna draft me. So I came up in that offense. In that offense, yeah, there's the Rod Smiths. There's the big McCaffrey that was there, and there was the Shannon Sharps of the world that everybody thought made that offense go, but what made that offense go? That run game, that run game, and then the keeper game, being able to build the passing game off of that run. So Christian McCaffrey, obviously super talented, been in a tough situation over the last couple of years, and also banged up. If he can stay healthy, this is a scary team because he will make that whole thing go. That's gonna be a scary, scary, scary, scary, scary situation because not only is he really good, but you now have a coach that can scheme big holes. He can scheme you into a situation where you're on the heels of the secondary and the linebackers right away. So super excited about this, but Kay, I have to wait.  You're bolder than I am to go out there and say, the 49ers are now the team to be in the NFC. I just need to, can we get two, three weeks, Kay? Can we revisit this in two to three weeks? We will, 100%. What is your background today? What are we, we're very serious and grim this morning. No, I had some I am athlete graphics up, but it just didn't work out for me. My team, my tech team isn't here. You know, we're a startup, Kay. My tech team. We're rolling on the skeleton team. So my graphic was dropping.  You and my producer, Richard, exchanging video messages to each other. I heard about that story. We'll get to that another day. Listen, did you hear what I said about DeAndre Hopkins and you think I'm being bold? I think he might be the most valuable receiver, maybe the most valuable player, after what we saw last night, what we saw last year, what we see out of Kyler with or without him, especially over the last two years. Am I crazy? No, I mean, look, you got it right here. Beautiful graphic, numbers don't lie. 10 catches last night with significant about that is trust, right? A lot of people thought he was going to be on the pitch count. A lot of people didn't think he was going to impact the game the way he did.  They're like, Jay Cutler, smoking Jay, smoking Jay.  Always Jay Cutler. And that just highlights the quarterback why I received a relationship. When quarterbacks are struggling, which the Cardinals are struggling, when teams are struggling, what does quarterbacks do? They go back to what they're comfortable with and that's who they're comfortable with. The Andre Hopkins, the Andre Hopkins just three years ago, he was the best wide receiver in football. Remember what he did for this team in a young Kyler when he was traded for nothing from the Houston Texans to the Arizona Cardinals? So now he misses six games and he steps in and he plays the way he did. He was a safety blanket for Kyler.  Right now, if I'm DHOP, you know what I'm doing? What? Pay me more money. Pay me more money. I need more money right now, like next week. Like next week. Look what he just did for Kyler Murray. He saved the day. He was suspended six games. But listen, hey, when you win games, everybody forget everything. See, I don't know. Usually I love your advice. I don't know. I need DHOP. You're saying wait a couple of weeks on Christian McCaffrey and the Niners. I say let's wait a couple of weeks for DHOP to start barking for more money, especially when it's clearly a mess in that locker room. Be real for five minutes.  You can just go knock on the gentleman's door and be like, hey, you see what's happening now? We're probably, we can potentially win a division. Kay Adams, the only one out there saying that the 49ers is just gonna run away with it. Listen, with me back, we could easily win this thing. So if you give me five, six more million dollars, I can ensure you when Kyler is cursing, calm the F down. I'm gonna be the one to put my arm on the shoulder every single time and say, young brother, we okay. I am here. DHOP is here to save the day. Just follow me. So for that, I'm just gonna need another five million and we'll be all good. You see how easy that is? Ha, ha, ha.  Don't say that. He's got a contract, I believe, till 2024, in DeAndre Hopkins. So we'll see how that goes. But that's your big bro, Brandon Marshall's side of things. And DHOP knows about money. He knows about branding. He knows about marketing. And you're calling him the most valuable, let me see, most valuable player in the league or most valuable wide receiver in the league? Most valuable wide receiver. Let's go with that one. All right, I like that. Now you broke some new speaking and wide receivers on the I am athlete podcast. He had D Jackson and he revealed that he still planned to play this season. He also had this to say when you asked about potential landing spots. I like Lamar Jackson game right now, man. Ball tomorrow. Jackson to Jackson.  I like to support the young fella. Mm. Okay, so Raven sign, wide receiver to Sean Jackson. What do you think? Is he going to fit with the Ravens? Yeah, absolutely. DJ can still do it.  So that situation didn't work out. He moved on to the Vegas Raiders and he still showed his speed. And that's what you need from DJ, right? Like DJ is not a wide receiver that's going to come and do it all, right? He's elite and he is special when it comes to speed. He's 35 and he can still move, right? So that's all he needs is to be able to put pressure on the defenders. He needs to be able to go back to when Hollywood Brown first came into the NFL. I never forget it, the Miami Dolphins game, okay? And I need to plug in my computer before it cuts off on you, but the Miami Dolphins game. Go for it. You got Hollywood Brown. Hollywood Brown, I felt like on the first drive, Jackson dropped back and threw this bomb and it was a touchdown, right? And it was dynamic. He had 160 something yards on four catches. That's what DJ can bring to this table, but he hasn't had anyone that he can trust and I had the elite speed and ability to be able to bring that to the table every single Sunday. Now a lot of people will look at me and say, Brandon, well, he's old and, you know, can he still do it? He's washed up. You only need five plays, Kay. That's it. Just give me five plays. That's it. And then now I'm good. I'm plugged up. There we go. Where's your tech team? Man, I need a bigger budget, man. The founder of this company. You heard of Fandall? Fandall. The founder of this company, he's not giving me a budget to play with. It's not great. All right. What did you say? He's gonna work out. Your best friend, Richard's in my ear. Richard's saying you're the founder. Oh, me? Oh, I forget. Yeah. You gotta cut that show. My friend. I cut this show to myself. You gotta do what DeAndre Hopkins, what you're telling him to do, knock on your own door and ask for that five million to get yourself a tech staff and art director. Correct, correct, correct, right. Let's wrap up this D-Jack conversation in Baltimore. Baltimore, they can be undefeated right now, right? We're talking about the games that they've lost. It's one, two, maybe three plays. That's it, right? Lamar Jackson is playing exceptional football outside of two or three plays. This team is going to be scary on the back end, on the back stretch, right? A lot of the pros, pros say that football season starts the day after Thanksgiving, right? Watch out for this team right around there.  Now everybody's talking about the Buffalo Bills and how good they are. Baltimore Ravens, they're serious, okay? And then obviously you have the Chiefs out there, but the Baltimore Ravens, please don't sleep on them.  Like, look at his press conference this week. Yeah. Sam upset, I'm mad. We've never seen him that way. He's always cool, calm, and collected. It's true. I just want him to get paid. I mean, I think bringing in a Dishon Jackson, like I don't know what the expectation is for him, but you know, any move that the Ravens make is just going to add pressure on him and what that contract looks like. So I hope for Lamar's sake that the Dishon Jackson, even if it's those five plays, help him get what he wants, because we all want to see Lamar Jackson safe, healthy, and highly paid. One quick one before we go. Three game wins. When you say go, you always do this to me. When you say go, that means I'm not coming back on the show? We got, let's, we got Derwin James coming up.  You can't hang out. If you tell us ahead of time, you want to hang out for 40 minutes, we can hang out for 40 minutes. All right, here we go.  I love it. I want you to just come on for as long as you want. But riddle me this. Jets, I'm surprised by it, because they're in the middle of a three game win streak, right? And everything's going well, and then we're hearing about Elijah Moore. He's disgruntled, he's not happy. This is a second year wide receiver who's reportedly asked to be moved and asked for a trade. So I ask you what, you know, maybe not what your advice would be to Elijah, but what your advice would be to Zach Wilson and how to handle this, he is a exciting second year quarterback who's making things happen, changing culture, changing with the fans and how they view about this team. But so what would you tell Zach Wilson about all this? Well, you've seen it in the past. I saw Zach Wilson's presser yesterday. He handled it totally wrong. He should have came out and said that this is my guy, and I'm going to find ways to get him to ball. He came out with other excuses that were valid, but you don't say that publicly. You go to your guys and I'm gonna find a way. I just spoke to Elijah Moore probably 30 minutes ago, and I told him I support him. I told him I'm in his corner. And a lot of people don't like that. I'm a big Jets fan, and Jets fans are going to be mad at me, but I told him as a wide receiver, you get paid to catch the ball. Now, how you go about it, it's a different story, right? But at the end of the day, zero targets, two catches, and maybe behind the scenes things not going the way they should be going. You know, you need to have those discussions, but I would like for them to keep that internally moving forward. It's well said, Brandon Marshall. Richard, get out of... Richard, why don't you just do a show with Brandon Marshall? Ian says not a surprise. Jets coach Robert Sala announces that wide receiver Elijah Moore won't play on Sunday versus the Broncos. Be Mars, this is not how we do business. Right, yeah, this is a tough one. You know, obviously it's heating up there. I don't like this. You should be able to play through this and work through this, but, you know, look, the Jets, they're gonna protect this chemistry they have right now and maybe a good decision on the Jets and hopefully Elijah and his team, they get what they need and what they want. It's well said. Be Mars, I am Athlete Podcast. Get yourself that tech team going and next time we will make plenty of time for you. But then I'm scared I'm gonna give you that time and you're gonna say, I gotta go. Why do you want me on for half an hour? I'm gonna be splitting plates and tipped tap dancing out here. Some people in this world, you give them whatever they want, Kay. Like Kay, you're the best. You're the best too. Talk to you in a bit from, we're gonna stay in the AFC from offense, of course, to defense. Derwin James hangs out with me. There's trucks and beeping and it's not great audio, but he was great as always. Derwin James talks about Brandon Staley. Does he defend his coach going for it and being so aggressive on fourth? We'll let you know. You know me, I'm going for it anyway. I want to be aggressive anyway too. I'm a aggressive player and as a defender, I'm like, if they don't get it, hey, it gives me an opportunity sudden change to go make a play. So, you know, we gotta go out there anyway. Whether we pun or not, we're going out there anyway as a defense. There is a night football. Mark Ingram will stop by to talk about this long flight for him, but everybody is talking about that dive. Look at the athleticism. Marco Wilson shown it off. It was a dive into the end zone after his Six of Andy Dalton Cardinals saying, frame it, give it to your mom for Christmas, put it on the fridge. We don't care as long as you have it. And then this was Meme DeGlore, one of my favorites, me walking away from the drama. I just created. All right, Twitter, keep doing your thing. We've got Mark Ingram on the show. Sam Munson, what kind of beer am I drinking today? Golden Road, October fast. From where is that from? Los Angeles. Golden Road from Los Angeles. I don't know if Sam Munson is in Ireland or wherever he is. Big discussion in our control room about that yesterday, but right now I want to show you this sit-down that I did and it wasn't a sit-down. He was very much standing. It was very much loud, but he's very much smiley and wonderful and always light-hearted. I love the Chargers. I support them. Derwin James, one of my favorites in his fifth year. He's gone through so much adversity, missed an entire year, but he's been to the Pro Bowl twice, an all-pro, the ultimate height man for everybody on his team, from his kicker to his star-wide receivers and his quarterback, of course, and a guy who, if there was a person to convince me that California is great, it's Derwin James. How are you? How are you? How are you doing? It's so good to see you! You know what, I just moved to LA Derwin and I wake up every morning and I say, how blessed am I? 88 degrees, go in it. Do you feel the same way? You play in a gorgeous SoFi stadium. You're healthy. Things are pretty good, no? Yeah, I definitely wake up, feels great every morning, every night. You know, that's what you pay for the taxes out here. Now you just beat the Broncos in overtime, so you're happy about that, I'm sure. 19 to 16. You had a huge sack in that game of Russell Wilson. How satisfying is that as a safety? It feels good. I thought you could make a big play, especially playing the game, you know, on defense, trying to get the ball back to the offense, so we can make a pick, a sack, anything to change the game, you know, is always that good feeling. Derwin, what did you do to Russell Wilson that he looked the way he looked in the second, third, and fourth quarter? I feel like as a defense, we kind of locked in and stopped letting people just get wide open because the players that they hit on us early in the game, it was literally nobody running with the guys, so like, I feel like we locked in as a defense and really like everybody did their job.  I got to get a vase on there, now you got to get, you got to get a vase on there, okay?  Dustin Hopkins crazy game, he gets the game ball, the whole works, and literally no one was more excited than you. And that's what it's like, Dustin Hopkins. Florida State is that garnet and goal, it's that, you know, everything, I just see how hard he works. And D-Hop, he's such a great teammate and such a great guy.  Now you don't just have pickers though, you have love for everyone. Asante Saniel Jr. ever, he was miked up in your game against the Texans and you were hype. You were so hype for him. You created quite a buzz in the pre-season cooks, gobbled up, they're going to lose yardage here. You been making tacos all day. I'm proud of that. I'm more proud of that than anything. You making full gas tacos. It's your fourth year in the league now, which is sort of crazy. Outside of getting the guys going, what is your role on this Chargers team? Just being a heartbeat that the team know and want me to be, you know, and the team asks me to do a lot. They want me to be that leader. And you know, I know everything that comes. So, you know, I just try to do my best day in and day out, keep setting the standard, keep setting the example for the young guys and you know, get as many wins as we can. Let's go back to week two, my friend, because this is, I'm just going to say it, the most iconic play in my opinion of this season. Appreciate it. I don't know what's going to, I don't know what's going to be better. I don't know what's going to be better. It's this, it's this suplexing of Travis Kelsey. You basically body slam him. Take me through what this was like and how it felt.  And I knew that, you know, I was only so close to the end zone. And I was like, man, I got to come up and make this tackle. I didn't see nobody like close to him. So I'm like, it's just me and him and the goal line.  And, you know, I connected with a good hit. Where does the strength come from to do that though? Is it adrenaline? What is that? I feel like naturally I'm strong though. Naturally, I'm strong, but I feel like I connected good and I was low enough, you know, the low man always wins.  What is the key to dealing with Travis Kelsey? I mean, I can't just give you one key on how to contain him because he just like, I mean, he got a lot. Like he wanted the greats of all time. Like he gonna go down in history as one of the greats. I mean, just so going to get some, it's just a battle. You know, every time it's a battle, he constantly mixing it up. He's not running around the same pace. And everyone knows when it comes to creating routes like what he can do.  One of the greatest ghosts of all ghosts. It's crazy.  Yeah, he talked to me. So like, it's different when I'm be out there playing and stuff like, you know, usually guys talk trash, but they don't really like talk trash to them. It's always like, you know, good conversation.  What do you mean you're out there talking about game of thrones? What do you mean it's good conversation?  I like, no one's just like out there just talking trash to me. It's just like good play or, hey man, good, this is always like good compliments. It's always, it's not like, you know what I mean? Yeah, but after that, you know, he talked about it on his podcast with his brother. He admitted that it was the craziest play. He got, got all of that. So there's love there, right? Yeah, for sure. It's all love. It's always love anytime. It's love every time. Okay, I have lots of love for your coach, Brandon Staley. And he's getting it from all sides for being too aggressive. So I'm gonna give you the floor here. Why is going for it the right move? Let him know. Because the guy, first of all, the guy we have that quarterback, we believe in him. In the office we have the weapons around him. We believe in him. And as a defense and as a team, we know that, hey, they don't get it. We gotta have a back and go get a start. And you know, like it's preach. We practice it every day, every week. So like we know our mindset. Like we don't need to go out there and change how we are when we practice every day the way we are. Now, are you saying that because it's true and you believe it or are you saying that because that's what you do as the king of matter? Nah, nah, for sure. Nah, it's true. I really believe that. We believe in Justin. And like I say, you know me, I'm going for it anyway. I want to be aggressive anyway too. So I'm a aggressive player and as a defender, I'm like, if they don't get it, hey, it gives me an opportunity, sudden change to go make a play.  Whether we punted or not, we're going out there anyway as a defense. Yeah, I've never played Madden, but I hear you're quite good. I know you gave Jaylin, Ramsey, all the smoke in college. And I know I read. I'm all right, Madden. Yeah, and you beat in Tyreek like crazy, like 50 through two to three in a charity game. You're obsessed with Madden. Would you rather get like a bad pass break up on the field against Tyreek or beat in a Madden? A pass break on the field. That's making me play. It's so cool. Yeah, come on, I don't love the game that much. I don't know how obsessed you are with Madden. I love the real game now, come on now. It doesn't beat that. You have the Seahawks in Los Angeles this week and you have been watching tape. I imagine on Geno Smith day in, day out. Yeah. Do you, what are you seeing? Let's start there. First of all, I got time to spend with Geno, my rookie year. He was with us in 18. We went 12 and 12 and four that year. He was our quarterback on the roster, him and Cardale. So just going to get some everyday scout team practice, just seeing them, you know, my rookie year coming in the league, he gave me great looks every day, like in practice. So, you know, just knowing the person who is traveling, playing with him. So like, I know everything he can do. Like, I'm not surprised by any of it. If you look at his QBR, everything, like I've seen him every day in practice since I was a rookie. So, you know, I'm already accustomed to what he's used to. What, I mean, so you're not surprised that he's sort of emerged? No, no, for sure. Cause like, he helped us get ready every week in practice as a defense in 18, in 18 when it was 12 and four that year. He was a good creditor as a defense. I feel like he helped us in the Cardinals. They did a great job giving us looks all year. If you look at when he was in college and whenever his number's been called, he's always done his job. So I can definitely see the success continuing for him because he works hard. He puts the time in and like I said, I got to spend time with him. I think he's going to throw you that ball. And that pass is intercepted. Derwin James goes up and gets it. Speaking into his distance, let's go. I am, I'm a big man. Let's go, I need that. I need all that. You're always smiling. And I know that it's, you know, for camera and sometimes it's, I always think it's really remarkable with you and Stake on Barclay actually is another person that sort of presents this to me. You missed so much time. You're in your fourth year. You missed an entire season. You have a smile on your face. So when you had to sit out in 2020, what did you learn about yourself as a man and as a player? That I really love ball life. Cause a lot of people say they love ball and like, but when you're having success and then things are not going your way, you really get to see how much you really love it. And you know, the days that I was by the university getting better 1% every day. You know, it made me to who I am today. It made me a better person today. And like I say, I wouldn't rather have it no other way. I'm always smiling. Just keep going and working hard. Last one for you, what should I ask? This Chargers team, I have the helmet. I'm always supporting. Does it feel like a different team this year? It definitely feel like a different team. I know we don't, I know we might not have all our guys out there, but I feel like the way we've been able to win these games, these last three games, I feel like it's helping us, you know, that we're going to need in the season. You know, being able to win, you know, from coming back from forward team zero, being able to win overtime and being able to win all these different ways is just shaping us up to the team that we want to be later in the season. And Justin Herbert, you've seen a bit of a difference in him, not that he needs to change, but how has he grown from even just last year?  Go win another Super Bowl there for Zofi, you know? Let's do it for Zofi Stadium. Rams got one, y'all gotta get one. Yeah, for Zofi. I like the healthy respect for Geno, but again, an interception. For sure. I love the ambiance of the truck backing up. They kicked him out of the facility because Khalil Mack of all people, quiet Khalil Mack, making so much noise, they felt it on go outside. Love Tim, love Tim on Geno Smith, healthy respect there. We'll see how it shakes out Sunday. Sam Munson coming up with some, let's get PFF'd up, but now, how about some you up? This is the text Conrad Company sends to people because he's single and out there on the prowl in LA, ladies, be careful. But let's talk about this. These are guys you should pick up and get in your lineup too. It's Uncle by Loa, Conrad out of her kitchen strays for no reason, I love you Conrad. He's bringing to 11th on Fantasy Pros.  Tony Pollard, everybody, 26th on Fantasy Pros. He's been very boomer-bust this year. It's true, Jerry Jones continues to try to make Zeke a thing, but I would trust him against the league-worst Lions defense. You couldn't ask for a better gift in Week 7 with all the running back shake-ups. So I'm gonna give you another one, why? Because I love you, Melvin Gordon. Ooh, people have been burned by Melvin Gordon. You might be hesitant. He was benched last week. He and Hackett have worked it out. They've talked, woo-saw, all of that. And I think the Broncos lean on him big time, vote of confidence from Hackett, to Melvin Gordon against the Jets. Josh Palmer is a guy I like at the wide receiver spot for your daily fantasy needs over at FanDuel. Use the FanDuel app wherever you like to go. He's got an 18 target, that's a lot. We love volume, he's a volume king. And that's happened over the past two weeks. He leads all charge of receivers with nine grabs last week. Little nod and love for Derwin James, some synergy there. Get Josh Palmer in your lineup. And I'm in love with Hayden Hurst, I don't know what to say. I can't quit him. He's all over my fantasy choices here. And he's been up and down week to week, but that means you have to play him in a good matchup. And that's what we got here. Kiddos, the Falcons have allowed the second most catches to the tight end spot. He knows the Falcons very well as well as we all know. So I got you a tight end. I got your quarterback. I got your running back. What else do you want from me? You up, get these week seven sleepers in your lineup. All right, we had Brandon Marshall who wanted to stay longer. And in my head I was thinking, should we have him stay longer? Because he always wants to. And we have Mark Ingram on deck. So we want to save space for Ingram because I want to talk to him. But also Ingram in the desert, long flight home to New Orleans, bad loss, probably sleeping. And I figured he didn't want to come on, but I would love to talk to him. We emailed him. Maybe he wakes up and joins us. No faults if he doesn't want to. But I got questions about the turnover. Their margin is minus 10 by far the worst in the league. So I want to talk to him about that. I want to talk to him about Dennis Allen. He loved Sean Payton. They talked and Sean Payton was on the show. But he has a lot of respect for Dennis Allen. He knows Dennis Allen. How do they handle this? What are the conversations happening in the locker room? What can they do to fix what happens so it doesn't happen again? So hopefully we get Mark Ingram, if not totally understand. Let's go to Twitter for some questions that you guys have for me, which is absolutely terrifying. Football enjoyer, would you rather, oh God, would you rather stick your hand in a deep fryer for five seconds? Ouch, I don't have a deep fryer.  You got a high scoring situation. We had 30 something points scored, 32 points scored yesterday. That must have been sent before last night's action. This is what you call a dummy block. Guys, this is something we have in case a guest doesn't show up. So that was an old tweet. All right, if you could eat only one form of potato, deep fryers down hungry, for the rest of your life, oh, easy, a french fry, any kind of french fry, a curly fry, a steak fry, a wedge, whatever. Yeah, french fries for life, I would eat, oh, french fries, babe, french fries. If you could be in the, oh God, if you could be in the head of any current NFL player on game day, who would it be? This is the toughest question I've been asked in a long time. I actually don't have an answer. Tom Brady would just be, I don't even know, just onto the next play, blah, blah, football jargon, blah, blah, blah. I wouldn't like that. Aaron Rodgers, I kind of have no interest. Conrad Company's in my ear saying Josh Allen. Josh Allen would be like a puppy.  Josh Allen would be like for a good time. For a good time I'd be at Josh Allen's head. Lamar Jackson would be really interesting too, I think, to be in his head. I don't know why all quarterbacks. All right, you know what time it is, Friday. Beer o'clock somewhere, some country singer sings that, and we've got Sam Monson, not a country singer. Might be in Ireland, we'll see. It's Friday, very much looking forward to the games. This weekend, week seven, not before, we get a little PFF action. This was big time news, Christian McCaffrey. I'm forever grateful for all the people who've helped make these past five. It hasn't been five and a half years, that's wild. It's been special for him. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Carolina. I will always love you, but I'm on my way to potentially win a Super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo, Debo, and Kyle Shanahan, and though Shanahan again is out there in the Bay Area, that's right, a deal for a second rounder and some other draft picks for Christian McCaffrey. So, Mr. Lynch, we see you, we salute you, we cheers you, and Kyle Shanahan as we bring in our PFF guru. Yes, he is the host of PFF's lead podcast and everything over there. And you know, Sam Monson, I gotta be honest with you. I sat in the control, Mr. Nigo, I have a serious question I want no one to yell at me. Like, does Sam live in Ireland? Is that where he's coming to us from? So tell me, you're in the middle of Cincinnati, as I understand it. Yeah, he used to live in Ireland, and then Chris Collinsworth bought PFF, relocated the whole shebang over to Cincinnati, so that's where I am now. Are you, you're clearly by the looks of your garb, not happy about that move. You're not exactly wearing Raiders Ice Cream T-shirts. Well, now that my accent transitions further and further away from Ireland, I have to compensate by wearing more and more Irish stuff. Well, we love it. What's the kit today? Is that right kit? I don't know. Nailed it. Just the vintage Ireland jersey, the rugby jersey. That's badass, I like that. Okay, tell me what we're drinking and tell me what you think about Christian McAfrey. I went back to the Guinness, like I kept it simple this week. It was what was in the fridge, I understand. I'm drinking something called Golden Road October Fest. It's cute and ironic that LA thinks it knows anything about October or fall or October Fest, but hey, let's give it a shot. Cheers to you, my friend. McAfrey, go. You too. Yeah, I love the combination of Christian McAfrey and Kyle Shanahan's offense. Obviously it's PFF, we're analytics, I'm contractually obliged to hate the compensation and how much they gave up on the cost and all that kind of stuff. Right. But put that to the side for a minute and just think of what Christian McAfrey within this offense can be. He's an incredible running back, but he's also an incredible receiver and the 49ers now have a running back that can split out and play wide receiver and they have a wide receiver that can go into the backfield and play running back and they can interchange those guys constantly. That's a unique matchup problem for any defense in the NFL. A second, third and fourth round pick. Not a first round over him, of course. And the big thing that PFF doesn't have to tell me is that the health is gonna have all the difference in Christian McAfrey as he's missed so many games with injury, so praying he can stay healthy throughout the season. All right, time to get PFFed up with my guys that months into why I don't hear an accent at all. So very, you're a man of mystery, but the number is 10. I'm gonna say 10 is the amount of pounds I will gain by the end of the season if we keep doing the segment on Friday. A price well worth paying, I think. 10% is the percentage of Denver Broncos drives that end in a touchdown this season, which is the lowest percentage in the NFL and really emblematic of all the struggles that we're seeing right now with Russell Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett's offense and just everything that's going on with the Broncos on offense. I wanna say the Broncos red zone percentage, just to point out to add insult to injury here, almost just as bad scoring touchdowns on just 20% of their red zone opportunities. No one else to put that into context here. I'm a numbers girl trying to be, no one else below 33%. They take on the Jets this weekend. All right, next, the producers are telling me the number is 413, let me guess here. I'm gonna say 413 is the amount of times that I'll most likely fail my written drivers test in the state of California. Got a written drivers test, come on.  You gotta be able to pass those. 413 is the number of rushing yards after contact that Saquon Barkley has this season. Like he is playing at the best level we've ever seen Saquon. He's looking like the superstar that he was when he came into the league and he's doing that behind a Giants offensive line that isn't good right now. Well, say, yeah, he's amazing. Second in the league in rushing overall. I can't, you know, you're saying, in my head, I'm thinking comeback player. The fact that you just said the best he's ever looked makes me so happy. He has 616 yards and those are just 33 behind Nick Chubb for the league lead. So, you know, he's got the Jags and I have a feeling he's going to keep it going. Finally, the number 40. I'm gonna have to have to say it's the number of times and I have a re-bought and we'll re-buy the bag of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups that I've chosen to give out for Halloween because I keep eating them and I have 10 days to go. Yeah, that's a tough one. Keep it, keep it away from the food before the kids get to it. Number of pressures that the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line has given up this season. We are looking at the best offensive line in the NFL. Every week, I think so far, they've been number one in PFF's offensive line rankings. They are the bedrock behind all of this offensive success. They're able to be so good running the ball, passing the ball, all because that line has no weaknesses whatsoever unless injury strikes. Were they in, you know, the Lane Johnson, is that a concern for you guys over there at PFF and then when your pre-season rankings, when it came to offensive lines, they were top three, top five, I remember? Yeah, yeah, they were definitely one of the best lines coming into the league, but as long as that starting five stays healthy, I think they're the best line out there. Lane Johnson, when they go into the bench, it's tougher, but he got a concussion, they've got a well-timed bye week, I think they're gonna be good there and they'll keep that starting five intact. And Philly is on a bye this weekend getting rest. I like the week seven bye, they're built down this stretch. I don't know who's stopping them unless it's the nine. All right, Sam Munson with PFF, we appreciate you. Love having you on the show, you can catch all of Sam's work on pff.com and the new PFF app. We didn't do much beer drinking, but I've got about seven minutes to do it. We appreciate you, my Guinness drinking friend, and we'll talk to you soon, cool? You too, thanks for having me. Bye, so, the ghost of Sam Munson. All right, coming up, no Mark Ingram, no. If anybody can find, everybody tweet at Mark Ingram, where are you? You're supposed to be on the Up and Atom show. We'll be back with some K-Makers. Where's the performance? You're pretty tough, two seventeen, here you go. Let's go! Chelsea, hey, two and a half days? Chelsea, two and a half days? Hey, can I do a baby? Come on. I love the visceral emotion from that Giants locker room. I need more coaches dancing in week seven. Coaches dancing in the locker room, it needs to be more of a thing, it isn't as much. All right, it's time for some K-Makers. Fanduul's got you covered. These are some guys who may or may not, and likely may, get into the end zone in week seven. I've got you covered, I'm gonna go. All running back edition, what? Yes, Aaron Jones, hey, Packers! Aaron Jones, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. He only has two touchdowns, all season. One rushing, one receiving, but I think the Packers are going to get back to simplifying things, have you heard that before? The Packers wanna simplify things. What does that mean? Give the ball to Aaron Jones, please. Give it to him, against the commanders, their 25th ranked rush defense, and so you gotta get him in your lineup. Josh Jacobs, the Raiders, coming into this week's game against the Texans, they're coming off a bye. We like that, Jacobs has gotten 59 touches and scored three touchdowns over his last two. Houston is a lot of the fourth most touchdowns to running backs this year, I feel good about that one. Last but not least, Patriots. Oh, it's icy to call a Patriots running back in that mess that my gran headaches and needs, et cetera, of a backfield that Belichick likes to run out there, but Ramon Dre scored two touchdowns last week against the Browns, and this week it's pitiful Chicago and they've allowed five rushing touchdowns, great over their last five games, so it just seems to make sense for Ramon Dre Stevenson, Josh Jacobs, and Aaron Jones to score touchdowns. I was over last week on my K-makers. I appreciate the production staff for not building a full screen to show the people that I didn't even get you one K-maker touchdown score, but that is where we are here. I'm gonna go study for my driving test. If anybody has any, you know what my makeup artist today told me she has a cheat sheet from the California DMV that she's gonna give me. Like when you write on your TI89 calculator and you're trying to pass the SATs, oh, did I, it was just me? Okay, bye.


What's up guys. A very warm welcome to SPM Buzz. My good name is Miski Finchi and this is Buzz with stars and as I bet you can already see. Sule ushao nisha tukonanani leo. As you can already see, I'm hanging out with our star.  Gopo san oku aji Niko fiti katita? Yeah yeah You don't like to know how tall are you? I don't know, it's 6 something Breeder, uje tukua passport?  How you doing though? Very good I'm doing good niku puwakabisa Nga onapale tu na chabuwa gin na mawiski Gin na mawiski Eh, tu seme, eh, wazaziwa na ona Lakin tu seme gin for the sake of the camera Apo sa Apo sa Tu tupe kale kak Tu na tuwa wiski Nga tuwa wiski Ebu tu pei oku alas to him because mimei shika Gin na mawiski Gin Mainbin say hey yuki wa tipsi Hei Nga puniwa tu pamao jamam bili Bili Chesa ya nimi Try no Chesa Hey, that's a dope jam Let me ask how was it working with Meja It was wonderful It was amazing It was experience kwa sama Niku puwakabisa, everything was perfect What was different between working with Meja Any other artist that you've done na konabuwe Working with Meja It was easier First of all in terms of accessibility For the video Once he liked the song The coding it was easy Session really for poor Perfect Ah that's really good And then pale kwa voice over Pale awa ma dem koniwa na respond That's mandi Ya ya ya For the whole hook Kwa mandi Oh you need your hook The hook is the chorus Kuna pats kava siangu Kwa mandi Then Meja We had someone else To go to studio Eh It seems like you guys are hanging out with mandi quite a lot Ya siwa mamori Ya ni mamori wa tu Nisha wana rumapale Like you two guys could be dating new and mandi Is that true? Rumani ruma tu Where is the confirmed kwa wari uke? Rumani ruma tu ni ruma Iko eni wa tu Ya But ni maori wa tu musically Have you guys known each other from Kitambu? Ya we've known each other for a while We worked on a couple of jams Before So badu saisi wa pamoja That's good How would you describe her as a You know we know mandi for an artist What about mandi as a friend How is she like? In Sempo Eh Fumeza Eh Ani vali ugeri wana ranga Mandi u add kwa lezi wa Apart from being an artist Nia tis no man ni besten piti Eh Ha ha ha Okay, not over you But I would like to know What is that one misconception That people have of you? Well I don't know Okay wana Wana unaka bule Mimi Eh Mimi maze mimi Misi kagi bule Imagine him easy Whether you guys He's quite easy You know like very easy It's unexpected Ya mimi nafigatu ya Amani filia, when you've used to So maybe you're not afraid Are you bound to bule with him Ya ya ya Maybe you are But I mean it's too easy Eh Okay Let me ask you If you were in a relationship Could you put it out Public or private It depends Depends on Depends with my partner They want me to go public now Depends with To no go public For likes Is it for business Is it for I don't know Is it for validation Eh Depends Do you feel like you'd be Comfort about yourself If you were to make the decision If I were to make the decision Aha It still depends It makes sense Ni ni base ni ni No go public Ni ni Like when you were a strategic If you were a strategic If you were a strategic If you were a strategic If you were a strategic Yeah It just makes sense Business wise Brand wise Shobiz wise It all depends Yeahmeансin ikoti easy for anything In the progression Okay Bazinga mentality Yea That's a dope album Let me ask you How did you come about Choosing the people you've done Collaborations with in that Particular album Yeah It was mainly the vibe Okay. Kwa ni ngenana vibe nikiwa nani kwa nani hingaoma. Kwa mi mwa na ii pick people to do collabo zuti na kwa mimi mone pianishaona, umsene zi ngenana ii vibe. So ni kikiwa kwa onu kumini ajina da ii uko have a song e ni ngezafit uko ndani. Ii na kwa gani kwa shuwa that su tengera na nii vibe. So chances of you what are refusing very slim. Very slim. Ah, okay kumia watu wana nii mo collabo zuku nii strategy hawa na. Kwa gani nii ngenana na nii. Ru nasaka tsume ginama whiskey. Who else would fit that song? I mean it has to be major. For sure. Okay, it's called strategy. Now you know, I'm a breeder. It's why we talk about gengeton because we've seen wame pigwa vita sana, sana, sana. And at some point we feel like ila vita imewa ingia waka relax kidongo. Coz at that time I mean gengeton was ndi okusema, you know. It still is for sure. But most of their pioneers atone waki put out the work the way they were doing, you know. What you do let's tell the gengeton at Istanbul wame relax too and they can do bangas out here. When they like push, when they like work like, nzi kini jani na the more you push, the more music you release the more na grown na demo na fika ma li na faku fika muja easy obstacles, bili tatu, nikawahida but pay attention pay no mind to all the obstacles that is na kam na mzi nzi gengeton peke me pigwa vita so many other genres na mzi kiz me pigwa vita nuti in Kenya alone you can liya kupush camisha break barriers yon top of the world yun na mamisha bado me zenata very true juni niwa li fanyan dofike panyan li fika sio fanyi kilo li fanyatimes too kweli, kweli so there is no point of giving up for sure na fuki ma fan on the leke supports ma fan on the leke supports ma fan is very important do you feel like Kenyans embrace their own very well yeah, yeah, they do kuzi na justisa Kenyans in nani Kenyans ni mtokopali twitter ma Kenyans ni what when I say that you nzi kiki nini have been to shows na bambi kambaha so it means to say na peneimzi kini liya too we just need to highlight more of the Kenyan fan appreciating Kenyan music and the less of and less of wale oto na shilaga unas juni ni you see, more of the people that love Kenyan music na peneimzi kikiya Kenyan be vocal about it if you are a fan of a Kenyan artist be vocal about it, tweet show love, kani shows ni meza pachesma alba manini kani support, 200% be vocal bisin na wana jazo kushi na ni wana kwa highlighted na wana kwa highlighted na wana kwa highlighted na wana kwa highlighted na wana kwa highlighted na wana kwa highlighted na wana kwa society kuna liya to na handa na following biggie wana kwa opinionia na matter now the problem that we have is most of the people whose opinion matters ono kwa negative for sure when we say umu kwa kwa entertainment 10 plus years kwa kismamu na unangia bout Kenyan music negativ ni, unanguja out of creative but if we have more people when you are supporting music on mafa it, gangaton artist or chance uma jo uimajin we kakama sayu na jo, saniyonga api omapiano kwa saniyonga api omapiano kwa saniyonga api omapiano so when you talk about gangaton uangia kusu, saniyonga api uti inuka na iliki tu exactly but imagine kwekawana positivity kwa saniyonga api omapiano kwa saniyonga api omapiano nini, mebi they have personal issues I still am an artist, but I am a human first. Before I was born, I was depressed. I was in a situation where I had a fever. I had a fever because I was so excited. I had a fever because I was so scared. I had a fever because I was so stressed. This is the best of my ability. I understand. So, more support. Let's have more people who are vocal and support the positivity. Let's highlight the positive things. I am not saying that I should go to the hospital and say I can't go to the hospital. I am saying that I can't go to the hospital and say I can't go to the hospital. You get less of the negativity. I am not saying that I should highlight the positive things. I agree with you. We know that is a good point. We talk about it dying instead of going up. We encourage these people. That's the thing. Quelli. bipartisan Sifu tobola. Sifu tobola. ya One thing about music, if you're born talented, you're talented Talenta yu zi There's no one who can take away your talent Hype ineza isha Another thing you need to differentiate between Hype ki isha Na sazile Saniha kwa na hype Kwa zi niya The hype dies down Ma tiziki badoiko Let's support it even when we want the hype Ya Kus if simple people are atuwa kitambo Wali isha And then they come back, they do music And they are feel relevant Because talent never dies For sure Music is art Art never dies Like 10 yas Art never dies It never dies Kuna watu wali me Art 1600 duko A.D. ya mani dici Walu zi kumapitcha zi kumonali seliche wali Kwa li kitambo Badoiko makasai Ya Okay, I mean I hope that has gotten into you Someone who's been giving up You know just doing your music Just pursuing your art I hope you've gotten something from this Now you know Breida you've mentioned You know depression And mental health is a very big issue in this country Especially for men How do you think we can just You know approach this thing and help you know Men just pick up And just do better for themselves I feel like we need to be more accommodating And more like receptive to Ideologies as I Okay You understand kitambo li kwa kwa Kwa nohume manzai wazi kwa Fai kulia Wazi li Wazi kwa emotional Wazi Wazi re-acts to view to Emotionally Kwa tuwa mademdon neza liya ni Mademdon neza complain about she does how But nowadays naja We guys appear to be changing So we need to be more accommodating Of such ideologies Manzai kwa kuna stress Shoa as manzai Ngia Boga nana say Tok support, Toks idea Naja Agili, Ideologies As I Manzai manzai Manzai manzai Pesu challenges N演oma Ganga We live in a world With challenges Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Nizim up Ya, kwejitha niwa auwa na kitu. Tuva niwa kia uwa. N plotsia, kutia darba mahena kuyumahuru. Nga loo meka kwa liro. Loo meka kwa liro. Na niwa kumutu. Niwa kwa lakini. Niwa mahena kwa m lyrics. Nga loo meka kwa kwa kiyonu. No artistu niwa kwa kwa rodingi. and it was a big deal on social media What are your thoughts on that? Bo na it's not a big deal it's not big deal我有. Kenyan do nifani kwenji. Kwenji kwa kwa kwenji. Tube it on a top board the kcbkin him Puqu kilaku mi topped it on stage Ya, ya Ya itikia na Ike Ya kai explains ya ya ya Ngo kwana joungotu? Yeah cool Bizanyani. Wato esi kwa approach? Mi kwa na expression iti. Uzi nga rebia mood, iti. Apum na iti. Sidi wta kubundo. Sidi wta kubundo fanya. Tстрой na sta kupasha. Ima so minun wa un uzi. Oh, it doesn't get you in training. Juhu ni mai have so many instances where he say ma be in a head. Ium tona naeni fan. So like online is not a real place. The house is like that by the way. Ya, online is not a real place. It's online as it is. It's a different world. It's a different universe. Yes. Once you treat it like that, it will never affect your daily life. Ya. Atim saya kwa negative ah. Jibam bejo. Abu and courage into mwenye. Ame go through cyberbullying. As in they have been bullied. They don't even know where to start. They even stopped doing what they want. They don't even believe in themselves anymore. Just encourage someone. Ya. Ya. As in they have been online so seriously. Ya. Of course, they don't know where to start. But don't take it too seriously. It's not a real place. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. Ya. imported Why do we still do rallies? Only in a real place. Never believe that place. You know university never take it seriously.  Talking about Debe, would you actually consider being supporting a political party or a political... Labdas are big baba for president.  They people are coming to me and saying Namakata, but you never say it's something like that. They say it's a big baba for president. You never say it's something like that. Yeah, I say it's a big baba. You're not even saying it's a big baba. Yeah, you don't even think it's a big baba. The people who think it's a big baba... Sia nga liya trak rekodyak, kliya muit aminikovu junia, maybunya mimikiki paniakazi. Ya Ma bone a misi andosu mi rite kama uwa. Na juwa. Batsia atu tuwa ma kelele Akinana, ya ya ya, it needs to be ukuna agenda, bono na supportumste. Bona mi fesktu apeni nyanana kelimi na believing Kelimi na stand-for as breeda kaza then of the day there is things that I stand for. There is things I support. Atakama sii jakwa vocal, laborti zovitu. Ya There is ideas that I support, nanon na zina faa, We have seen so many artist going into political aspirations Do you feel like just being famous gives you the guarantee that you are a good leader? no, actually it is not even about being famous Do you think good leaders are born. Ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni ni Okay. Okay. Okay. I mean now to me on what to when I in the layer social media people are removing albans. The shop is industry is changing. Do you feel any difference since you started doing music and now? Big difference mum. Very big difference. What are some of the notable things you can actually identify? Of course the money has increased. Yes. There's more attention to. As a means of. Successful. For the better. The last time I checked your rates card was somewhere fair. Yes. The biggest song in the country. 100%. Information. Information. Information. What? But I mean they always do actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well and good. Yeah. Parents have always supported your music. Well to be honest. Yeah. Yeah. Excuse me. is my biggest. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How does that make you feel just seeing your dad so proud of you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is so good. I mean parents just supporting their kids. Because imagine we as a Jojom Toto. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Nope. Yeah. Imagine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.  It opens your mind.  And make sure you implement it. For the votes. How was it working with a what he's all about. He's all about positivity. He's all about progression. He said, yes. Tiyomiyo piyo aili kwa pale, hindi ho, as young as he was, what is that one thing you could say when you look at Tiyomiyo, he challenged you as an artist? I don't know if it's a circumstances or money, but he's so full of life here and passion here. He was a young artist and he had a huge age. And he said, come on, let's go to the concert. He was a young artist and he was very young. He was tall and he was very tall. He was in his 20s and he was in his 30s. He was in his 30s and he was in his 30s. Just hearing about someone else. What next for you? nao jeen en whisky you know is something very new you know but what next other than you do you have anything else? More music, much drop an EP, drop or a mixtape, kwa so i kule apo tiki, these are my elections i say but more music, bangas, bigger songs yani, this yani different settings yani big baba don't say, we are not ready, but we are here for it you started on a very high note we are here for it bangas after banga i mean just just keep going keep going i mean uh i can't wait to see you perform nao jeen en whisky in the shows ni ni ni ni it's just about to become an anthem by the way it's already an anthem, it's the biggest song in Kenya right now yeah congratulations thank you so much keep keep doing what you're doing please tell your fans your last words manzei mafanuote jo, Breda LW was a father big baba, papa Fadela, but zenga daddy manzei shukran sana for the support keep watching jeen na ma whisky na manzei na napenda sana jo napenda sana niku ba tiki nation tkwe that was Breda LW you guys make sure you stream his new song featuring major niku shuo usha ona, lakini you really want it, ena alafuku je kwa comment section tell us what you think about that song but thank you so much Breda for your time thank you for having me manzei espm band subscribe to subscribe to support manzei all right guys that was Bars with Stars right here with me Miskifingi until next time make sure you subscribe goodbye