It's positively brilliant Yep, shawlam into God Andrew Schultz.  Yeah. Um today is inauguration day, man.  Oh, we do get back this morning. Is he locked between the inauguration Because that's crazy. His pride ain't gonna let him yet. Nah, his pride ain't gonna let him do it. Yo, as soon as trash I was a little disappointed today. Hmm. I thought he would do a little bit more to steal the thunder away from um From Biden and Kamala Because it's easy easy to do because the media is making Trump the a story when they shouldn't the a story should be Inauguration right B story should be Kamala C story should be Trump leaving with all day to day on CNN.  You got a villain Now you got to come correct now you got to go out there and really show your power like Steven A. Smith when there was no sports He was going on every day talking about sports beast though. No, no beast him and Max Kellerman would be that was Absolutely Absolutely, just talking absolutely now. We got our people's in the building. Yes gang gang Would you like to introduce yourself even though they can see you on camera anyway?  It's just a boot. Oh Y'all know I still be playing with the Buddha holes egg.   What's the other one? National least indicated number one.  Oh, wow, even though we're taking horse when we came last time We were like really horse.  Oh, so you wake up So I have the conversation with my boyfriend sex at night is for the woman Morning is for a man. Really? Yes, because they wake up hard. So men should be fulfilled Woken up hard and fine.  No, he's just like see Mars. He drinks his beet juice. I do see Mars and get juice He's very healthy.  This is a real person. It is. He's very real What do you mean by it?  It's like it's either medium or okay when they are broke I'll give you whack dick in a purse Exactly it's just it's a better combination.  You still gotta put it down Dude, I had a I was talking about flicker.  And the girl's on top because I got your legs are in the air and my legs are in the air and uh, and uh Peg this down No, no, like she's on top and I can control it when she's on top for whatever reason it's easier for me to control But she started doing something where I couldn't control it and I was coming at I could come in three pumps I would have to tell her to like get off and it was I was like traumatized You should congratulate her You know at first is cool then after a while that she needs to get off Yo, but you're gonna be working out like crazy. She works out like crazy. She might be a little Something was going on something was going on and I I literally figured out what it was. Thank god But I was having the most insecure two weeks in my life. What was it?  No, she wasn't taking the whole thing Once I put the whole thing in there, then I had a little bit more room to operate You know what that is. It's your the tip the frontal and it's very sensitive.  Lieutenant Dan's legs.     Yeah.   Let's take too much out of me at this age. Yeah, I like 12 minutes sex 12 minutes is fine That's a great amount of time And then we go again. No, no, no, no, no, if you don't think 12 minutes is a long time Do 12 minutes high intensity cardio and tell me that's not a long That's a great Everyone is at high intensity for the whole That's a whole football quarter, bro. 12 minutes a whole football. Do this. Hold your breath 12 minutes.  Yeah, right. That's a long time 12 minutes. Okay. Three minutes is a long time if you're doing it, right? Yeah, okay. Wow. I wanted to get on board with you with that one, but that's That's why it's pretty pussy insures a nut. Yeah. So if you do come fast, at least everybody got That's not encompassed in the 12 minutes.    Oh, what do you mean? So Only camera sideways Here we go, I give this tip all the time.   Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on.  Yes Really? I'm telling you. I don't know man.  Yeah, like this. Why are you doing that for a bit? Lay it on her thigh Inconvenience yourself.  I have to breathe through my nose. I'm already got asthma It's ridiculous. Then I got to get up back like I'm trying to talk nasty. It's like a breathe Just to go back down. That's a lot. My tonsils be in the way. Good. Well, it's supposed to hit that dangling little dangly thing In the back of your throat. That's lame. Cardi for making guys feel like we have to do that. Yeah, that's also true I I said, yeah, that's Cardi's fault.  Yeah Oh, that's it.  Why is it? Well? Yeah, why is that? It's just like you need that so badly that you would die without sucking There's a lot of girls that don't feel that way. I don't know any of them. You don't know any of it I love women. I love I love that. My wife is enthused about Yes, nobody wants it to feel like a job even though it is a job But it's not a job.  Like that's not fun. I don't like when men do that to me like You know what I mean? Like they gotta eat pussy. Like that's ridiculous.  Can you say stuff like that? That's that's scary dude. I mean no, but like that's scary.   I'm like, what do you really say? And she goes I tell him you can put it back there.  You can put it back there.  But doing chores. It's not a chore. Like we don't live together And he came and made sure I was gonna have my super do it. He was like, no like I can do He could do it because he's a task rabbit for a living. So that's what he's doing. Anyway He's a job worker task rabbit. Who is this guy that got so much energy and tell him pass the goddamn vlog TVs he's he's great. He's a handyman.  He's a great guy I don't know. I'm I'm still waiting and he's financially sounds.  Who are you fucking? That's amazing 50 years old Close. Congratulations. More or less? Less 48 49 47 47 why that's not 50 that's disrespectful That's crazy Actually, if you round in it a no, yeah, I guess who does your numbers? I don't know Guys, I'm tired.   Yeah, yo shut you guys got to check out Wtf media studios alex and wheezy start their own podcasting studio right down in soho. Congratulations That is positively brilliant.   We got two back Listen, you tell me if i'm wrong. Uh-huh. Why is wheezy necessary in this business? I saw it in promoting it as a black owned business alex always claims portorecan If me and taylor start a business that's just as black No, i'm just saying it's a hundred percent one black person Why don't you let him say you like this dog? To me always you're supposed to be the one who come around the corner and get me bad Wheezy's by ratio, right? Sephardic jew, yeah, he says really he what he's a Sephardic jew, which means he ain't that white That's her way of saying he's spanish White people do they find out how they're a little bit not white. That's the most white Orbeez like the Kardashians be doing Um, uh, in reach what is it a retreat a retreat in jew. No, no, african.  Okay, go ahead. I don't know, but they don't count. There's two of the ones that count The ashkenazi ones are like the russian looking ones and then the Sephardic ones are the ones that are like It's still more tan looking but they white but they're more tan Arabic they're supposed to be arabic. So what are you wheezy? She's white. She's white.  My mother's black. Okay. Okay. My father's is really, um, it's a white-owned business, bro This is a white-owned business, bro. It's a white-owned business Latino, right? He's half black. Alex's mom is mad puerto rican. I thought he was bullshitting until have puerto rican your dad's black.  I know who my mom is.  So we don't know if you came out pussy. Maybe you got c-section. Then you're not even close to black Alex is definitely black though. Alex is real bad. His dad heard ice cream back in the day wanting him to go to peek and rican got one Alex was born That's true. I mean that's sure. Yeah, that is 100 fast. So together It's a black-owned business and I would say that your mom is afra latina. Yes. Yes She's not as light as like uh j low or like one of these white puerto rican But she's out. She's do our complex.  Yeah, you're black Let's go.   I just the older I get the more I understand Who I am viewed as in the world, especially being in corporate america Like it's black girl shit all the time and and I know now A lot of things that I couldn't at that point in time Not having a white father being in certain spaces and understanding that I could navigate no spaces because he was white Right, so now that I'm older and that's not in my life I I really see the world for what it is and I watch some shakazulu I woke up and the interesting thing about that though is like you don't present as a white woman So it's not like if you got pulled over by the police you could say my dad is white Then we can give them that never worked But I know there's some light-skinned shit and that's where I've gotten ahead in a lot of things And that's why I feel like it's my right and my duty to always put black people on because It wouldn't be fair otherwise like with this studio we constantly talk about that, you know How are we going to make sure that we're doing black people right?  Maybe that's why a lot of this shit started late We should have Oh Is that fair to say in that situation I can start calling weasley a cracker till she's saying she is one cracker as cracker though That is a fact When it comes to money the jewish comes out gila is not playing but weasley I'm just saying she's there but when we talk about the check absolutely All right guys What do we see that oh positively brilliant. Um Uh, uh jasmine sullivan performing at the soup bowl. I think that's amazing since we have horrible decisions here Have y'all heard hotels? No, I think it's about us. I think it's a classic album I think it's an instant classic. It's really really good I'm excited too. I think that she's warranted the space to have a Project like this after Stuff like the me to movement what we have with horrible decisions. Um the slut walk the ambrose did I mean, I don't think I I really still wanted her to bust windows out of niggas cars But I loved it. It was a great great project. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Um, she's the super bowl She's saying the national anthem. Oh She can say no jasmine is amazing. I don't even know who she is When you get home I have no clue. She's when you get home and you turn when you turn when you turn your wife When you turn your beyond streets, bro, this weekend. I put on the jasmine. You're having to sell them in hotels, really Look to lip Yeah, I guarantee you to live. No, if you would have gave your girlfriend one more week You would have been hearing jasmine. So really? Yes, because she would have busted windows out. Oh, is that her?  I also said what I liked about that album is each song is from a different perspective of a hoe Like she talked about getting money from from men Then she talked about somehow. I didn't know we could be hoes dating broke men But she talked about that when I said I will never give you money and you live with your mom and all She went in but I really like though. That's the difference.  I've been like, I'm gonna uber you home and you'll go over.  It's crazy Hold on. So uber uber when somebody called you a uber. I mean you put down a good dick I just thought they wanted you to leave Well, that too, but I mean this is me saying thank you But I got a complex about like I really love to sun men and like I do like I love picking up a check when a date is Oh, yeah, like she would pay for dick though. Like we used to talk about it.   Um, what's the opposite of massage misandrani? You guys are from the sandriness. So a little bit. You guys hate men No, absolutely not. Yeah, I do feel a lot. I do feel like a lot of y'all y'all love for men is rooted in pain No, like why do y'all like to hurt men? So I don't want to hurt us yet.  You know what I'm saying?  That's PTSD I think maybe that wall up I mean I try not to live that way But I see a lot of the things that I do with men is to keep myself from getting hurt Whether it be like not particularly now because I'm in healthier relationships But I would even say when I the last time I was on brilliant like I would want someone to leave my house Instead of sleeping over because I was scared of the emotional attachment Now I'm able to navigate through those feelings, you know with maturation But in the beginning hell, yeah, like I didn't know what to do I wouldn't even want to go on dates if I thought it was someone who wouldn't want to stick around I'd be like, I don't want to like him too much.  I was in LA and he um He came in a restaurant that I was in okay, and I was I thought of you immediately. I really did. I thought y'all's gonna walk in together We did he was oh, that's right. We went out with you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, honestly We had great a great relationship, but I think it just couldn't get that deeply romantic because we started as friends and it kind of stayed friendly Like oh, so you can't fuck a friend. No, I'm not saying that but I think you can't grow romantically or deeper I think you can't get that deep if you're Too friendly, I think we really I was like I disagree Yeah, I think it's good. You want more so I don't know I'm just trying to say like I want deeper spiritual connections deeper I wanted real romance and I think him and I were just so homey home boy We just had great sex that like we couldn't Understand how to navigate it deeper like we just had great sex So how do you break something like that off with a friend with somebody that you're having great sex with? Like how do you break something like we were in a threple Oh, what I had a girl. Yeah, she had a whole girlfriend and they had a girl. We had a threple Why'd you have them celebrate they call y'all for hotel skits like I know I know I don't know But shut out Antoinette Antoinette's tail So she and I were dating and him and I were dating and it was like let's do this together and the three of us were great And when she broke up with us him and I realized we weren't as great together Oh, so she was the the glue it was like a stool and you know, they say that about men that are cheating a lot When the mistress goes sometimes it ruins the main relationship and it's like everything falls apart But it kind of happened like that. So I mean, we're all still friends. That's what I think is gonna happen with the next, bro I think when that's Roppel gets together I think when that's when Kyrie gets there, bro, I think that's what's gonna happen and they're gonna realize they better off with just james and KD I really do no, that's the opposite of the stool She's saying the stool can only work if there's three legs. Oh, you're right. You're right. You're right. No one pulls out right It's unbalanced. Got you. Kyrie pulled out already this a conversation for y'all. I'm like No, I respect Kyrie though. I positively brilliant. I put Kyrie in it. Okay. Well, he also just bought uh, George Floyd's family He's doing a lot off the court But I want Kyrie to normalize mental health breaks mental health breaks should be like sick days When you are mentally and emotionally overwhelmed, I should be able to take a day or two off And come back when I'm recharged. I agree. I think he could have normalized that you can't just disappear and tell mother Don't tell people why you're not here. I think we're gonna see a lot more of that I don't know if y'all uh read what they're doing with the NBA Of course, they're not in a bubble anymore But a lot of them like to get their rocks off on the road. They can't have guests in their hotel rooms anymore Thank god. I'm not a hoe anymore But they're literally not allowed to have guests in the hotel with them anymore They're not allowed when they're home Uh, they can only go to and from the gym and they have to let Their teams know when they're doing anything else. So like it's a lot They you just had them in a bubble a couple months ago. The season restarts quicker than normal They don't get the break they're used to having and then you throw them in with all of these COVID regulations and then every week there's games that are also being canceled Because you used to say that when you were dating like ballplayers that they wouldn't have sex with you before a game Before the game, but they flew in the city the night before.  Yeah baseball players baseball players don't speak English and football players I mean an NFL players their money is not for long.   No Don't do this North face you've never seen these before these are Uggs for white men Melania's bro, that's only for that's only for top 10 members of magga that get though Yo, did you see trump yesterday trump said melania melania Come up here and say a few words, you know He knows that big Over it apparently she's not even given um mrs.  I thought it was dumb to do the inauguration if you thought it was that much of a threat And I mean if they're getting all of these threats and they feel like it's going to be such violence Like why even risk that it should have been birch I think they meant violence as far as like people in the streets and parades I'm telling you all the homies that they're storing the capital. They basically they're telling me they're like, yo We got Bro, they're like we got out our system. We're good. We got our selfies. It's nobody tried nothing today. Say what?  I really you know cookies are dope. I like cookies, but I don't want no cookies But if someone was to bring some cookies then who would have it I don't know if I'm pronouncing it right What's this call? What's this called?  You told us to come out here.  Oh, it's a wrap. Oh, no, no, no. It's a wrap for y'all y'all gotta face the judge now Y'all should have got in on that train earlier. Y'all like like little Wayne I'm not mad at Wayne Wait, you're not mad at him. I don't I don't judge people for what they do when they're just trying to survive Okay, you know what I mean? Because I think that it's very easy to say what you wouldn't do in that situation But little Wayne is a multimillionaire. He's got five kids.  Yeah He didn't do anything. He did something you don't like We don't need to judge him for trump. We need to judge him from the black lives matter Like I don't have issues like that. I cannot stand when black people white people keep bailing that's out It doesn't trump just got him out of jail. Oh, right. I'm saying the other white man saved his life I mean if I'm wheezy, I'm like, yo, these white people kind of lit But that was his mentality He said that his reasoning was when he does his shows and he looks in the crowd It's mad white people coming to see him. You know what I'm saying? Well, how much are his tickets? Say what?  I don't agree with it. I don't think it's realistic But that's his experience. That's his experience. Yo, what's Kodak? What's Kodak's experience?  Yeah, probably did Wouldn't you?  We work for airlines. We go sell the booty pass. That's what I'm saying That's a great idea. You got it. You know what I mean?  Yeah, the tiger king dude was kind of pissed that he didn't pardon him.  He got the limo got the limo hair and makeup mental health special Hair and makeup the guy did a whole they did a whole interview saying you like the hair and makeup is The most important thing for tomorrow with joe exotic like No, bro, bro. That was one of the best Netflix besides yours friend Futures I've ever seen I mean when the wal-mart manager said he had experience to run that campaign I was like, this is america tv Never watched it You never watched tiger king. Never watched it. Oh, it was incredible.   It was People getting arms ripped off. It was a wild boy, bro flipping straights What you mean flipping straights flipping straights, bro.  Not here. Yeah. Oh, yeah He was in a throttle.   So why you want to get out of a room and board? No, why does he want to get out of jail then? I can't have tigers in jail, bro So that's the throttle. That's a he needed tiger to One of his employees arms got ripped off and the first thing he said is I'll never financially recover from this God forbid the fish got blood squirt and I don't know if he was perfect. So why is he why is he in prison again? Because he tried to kill the endangerment and oh, I think for killing tiger. No.   Yeah What another woman that what was the competitive competitor? She was a eater, bro Like she just doesn't like people to own tigers and like breathe them But she even though she has she has a tiger sanctuary, but they're still caged. It's just a larger She's wild, bro. She killed her husband fed him to the tiger Yo, can you watch this, sir? Please Clearly it's not worth me watching if he didn't get a pardon if the show slapped like that He'd be out Cleaning down with trump fucks with a milley, bro Clearly trump fucks with kodak black clearly It's tiger king. Nah, you know, they got a man on there with no legs And he says I bet you think I you know that these are gone from something But no, I was in a car accident It was unbelievable the show was incredible. It was it was really good You know, I want I want to go back to something wheezy said about the NBA players You got to let people have their vices Oh, see you see you just did what you do on the breakfast club. What I do Mandy not wheezy. What I said wheezy I think you said wheezy, but it's easy to mix up you half honks My dad is Oh I don't know about the cadaver Charlemagne just said to me this morning that the black effect is a hundred percent black Creatives I didn't know taking the spot of a black creator right there You see how white people do People just sneak in have you ever done the answer after test Mandy? No, I'm she's scared, bro She's about to find out she's 68 Right I need Mandy to be at least 40 if she's at least over 40 percent african we still No, I could smell the According to people like ados, they would say you're not black though. They say that caribbean black people are not black Which I think is ridiculous Yeah No, there's not what they say. He might got an accident, but that might look black. Wait, wait. They say what? They say caribbean if you're from the caribbean, you're not a african descendant of slaves How there was mad slaves there were slaves in the caribbean.  Yeah, it's also diaspora, but it's all But I'm saying like I never just I don't understand a lot of they say that about kamala.  She's not african-american. That's the difference with that The history in the caribbean is way different But you born here. I was born here. Yeah, so what's your first generation? Nah, she's caribbean-american She's not african-american. Yeah, look at us. Really. You're white.   That's another cracker.  Really? Where'd you see her airport? Wait, so she didn't even look mixed.  Yeah, there's things that you need before you do a show and y'all do y'all live shows. There's things that you need Things you have to do that's what I'm saying I take she takes before she takes tea and have tea and I take a shit and then I can get on stage But see that's advice but back in the 80s 90s guys you just smoke cigarettes I read something yesterday. I said my new bowl was literally drunk for every single game he ever played in his life Wow, people have vices.   They were Taylor was trying to be funny for a whole week and she knows I can't handle um, uh whole milk. I need almond milk. She got me whole milk She was doing that. She don't let's go No, all you know what that's that's actually not bad because protein shakes Maybe you were trying to lose some weight.  Taylor Bumps and shit man I like oatmeal too, but that's my side green tea like I have small vices You should see Mandy and I before I show Can I get the definition of a vice because I thought a vice was something that technically isn't good that you do He's just using every word possible. Why is it bad? Can I get the definition for my definition of vice? It's about to come out vice landies is a mirror. Absolutely. And now we're dead Sorry, they dropped that ball Oh It's wicked Why do people call she vices Because it's because it's your thing that you do that technically is not something that you should be doing but you enjoy doing Like whenever I want to send someone a bottle of alcohol. I'm like, what's your vice and they'll tell me Yeah, it's always bad things. Nobody's vices yoga.  Why are you doing yoga?  Yo, we knew a guy that could do it. Alex. He's Latina.  No, we were at a desk and we were like a desk It was part of guy code, but there were before of us at a desk It was different groups of four. Oh when they was doing like the guy called panel panel. Exactly.  We're like, yo, could you show us how you would do it?  He really did show us with that mouth No, you remember this you would have wanted said do it Pucker up. I don't remember You were like, yo, pucker up, bro. Nah, he just put his face where his genitals would be on his jeans And then we asked him. We were like, yo, like what is it like?    Oh, so that's something he did on the regular. I well, I imagine he did it once Actually, I don't even know if he did it right I maybe just put that in his mouth I put those words in his mouth Say what can you do you tell your own self not to come in my face?   Has it ever gotten on your chin or something like flew on your face? And I got hit I got face shot Face shot of myself. That's that's too many. Uh, scarred me dude. That's too fucking.  Damn, man. I want to do the goddamn ad right here This would be a perfect time to break and do ads But tele walked out Come on producer. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got the ad king. You got it. Oh ready and let's go All right, let's stop and play some bills, man.  I thought about using it to go round two. Why didn't you pop the blue chew? I didn't use it to go round two because um You can get pregnant You can get pregnant with round two. Yo, my god. What do you mean round two gets pregnant from the ad?      Do we got another mid roll hold up now or we can squeeze in there? Oh, we actually do Can you hit that cushion here? So press to call me out about nothing? Well, we still got a another ad another mid roll Okay, uh, listen 2020 was a rough year and a hard time to keep your head in a good place But 2021 can be better. You know why they can be better because all our friends at cushy dreams All right, they can help cushy dreams specializes in high quality smokable cbd And cbd has been shown to help with anxiety Depression even pain relief fighting information and more cushy dreams extraordinary cbd rich hemp flower comes in an eighth Okay, eight ounce cans and pre-roll joints It is cannabis that shifts discreetly to you directly to all 50 states They offer specific indigo and sativa strains that deliver desired effects. 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I think the shows in salt lake city. I think they're sold out I'm not sure but you can check but I think they're all sold out by now But then we're also gonna do columbus the following weekend as well I think I'll post a flyer for that today. You're gearing up for that new stand-up special I'm telling you. Uh, andrew shows is going to be the biggest Stand-up touring comedian. Okay. Okay. Remember. Remember it was russel. Uh, russel peters. Yeah Russell peters. I don't know if russel still is he was at one point There was a time where he definitely was he definitely was the guy like 30 Plus million dollars globally. That's going that's going to be uh, that's going to be andrew shows for sure I can't wait to see you doing stand-up on tv Like I've said it not even because i'm here.  We could we could bleep it. I didn't know. Okay. Okay. My bad. My bad. Yeah, because if they don't act great It might go somewhere else Netflix you really showed your range But like i'm ready to watch you just stand and tell jokes Look for neflix it was specific thing It was like let's tell the truth about some things that happened this year and like really make fun of Some people who I thought deserved it, you know, they were kind of like getting away scott free And I really wanted to just just roast them And but also like give people some peace of mind knowing that like most of us agree on all these issues and The media is making us feel these horrible ways and the reality is that we all can kind of agree regardless You know, so which side of the aisle you're on I love stand-up because it's just so absurd. Like I try to justify the worst things But you get in your back with ember Like your best moments are like the ones that we don't know Bruce those are always fun.  No, it makes no sense to me as I'm walking out to the stage every time as I'm walking out to the stage If you notice like especially I'm doing like these and shit I like kind of walk out slowly because all my way out. I'm like, I don't got no song makes no sense I'm gonna just talk and y'all I'm not gonna talk and that's gonna happen for an hour Like this is crazy Maybe that's why you talk to people because you'd realize how weird it is Well, I love the conversation like even within my my bits like I still want to be a conversation I don't want this to be like a a speech. You know, I want you to know that I'm listening to you even if you're not saying something Yeah Yeah, like to me it locks me into the into the bit and it makes it real like there'll be something like There'll be times where I'm like in a bit and I like feel This is weird to even like say I don't even I don't even know if people can relate to this But like I can feel an audience's attention. I can feel it. No, that's real It's it's really I know if I have them on a string and I know if there's like maybe they're like You know distant, you know what I mean?  W talk to wme or somebody Agent is talking about the Are you waiting on people bro? Why are you waiting on people?  We have a black audience. Y'all do the south? The south is one of the huge things I'm flourishing Atlanta and Miami All the ones you just said are open.  We should be doing Atlanta I'm not even going to Atlanta to just be with my friend. I'ma jump out with a man You haven't had corona yet? Yeah, I had COVID So then what you worried about?  Like Ten days later. Yeah, that's normal. It's supposed to be 14 days. She still has all the symptoms. Oh, yeah And so like to be fair and my sister just had a new born No, no, she's in florida You saw how long it was before he stopped caring about someone else beside himself Did you see literally It was three it's like a goldfish's memory. There's just three seconds.   I think like I think the Wildin out guys was trying to go on tour. You remember this Early on Nick Canada was like, nah That's a Nick Cannon thing brother. You they couldn't even you put Wildin out in like the credits or something. Yeah There's a church announcement. Stay woke Nick to Make sure y'all pre-order to mika mallory's um upcoming book state of emergency It'll be out march 11th on a black privilege published in shaman and shoester We're actually revealing the cover this friday. Okay. Yeah, so we're revealing the cover this friday so make sure y'all uh pre-order to mika's book and um, yes the black effect this week we launched, uh, Just yesterday we launched jesse larris's Carefully reckless Great clip you posted. Yeah Well, that's on her. Well, that's on the producers who produces jesse parkas sim sloot the sim. Yeah Sim produces jesse larris parkas, but that's out now. Uh, we also, uh, launched We talked back this week, which is with my homegirls from South Carolina aj We can't hear you tell me on the microphone not on the microphone But yes, I mean listen, they got a lot of downloads already, but aj and uh, tammy they're gonna they're gonna be on brilliant It's next week actually And um, of course horrible decisions I listen to a really nice text about our audio listeners and that really made me feel good I mean listen, they numbers just threw the roof right now.   That's the problem They think they're coming to see yours and we got graphic teas and sweats on We don't dress up for our video. You gotta dress up. Can we do a can we do a podcast pro tip? I mean, I don't know if it's a pro tip. This is what I've seen. Okay Podcasts are multi-platform. Everything's multi-platform. Right, you know what I'm saying? Like even if you look at a show like the breakfast club, it's radio. It's uh, It's youtube. It's social media and it's the podcast Podcasts are audio and the visual right but the main thing is the audio audio. Absolutely. That's what the advertisers Spend the money at it's with the audio youtube is great. You know me, but that's a whole other revenue check for For people, but I think nowadays you have people launching podcasts starting with youtube I don't know if that's the best idea. I agree. I agree with you And I think that when you have the video component, especially early on it takes away from the focus and making sure your audio Is really good Especially because again as a podcast people are gonna listen to you a lot of people want to perform For a camera and unfortunately as an audio listener, that's the only way I listen to podcasts is audio I'm not watching you. So, you know, uh, I guess. Yeah, that was a good pro tip. I think that I disagree Well, we You have utilized that formula of clips and visual to drive them to the podcast the reason why I disagree Is because it's hard to find to discover a podcast On these audio platforms. Is it I don't I don't think that at all.  What else they talk about like the algorithm they've get fed the algorithm In their algorithm. They have the opportunity to discover right that's why music track It's gonna play you something simpler. But but here's the thing what what I was so big on video the reason I was so big on video for Uh specifically our podcast in the beginning is also when there's a story that hits Right like for example, we talked about takashi on this podcast The first time you ever talked about was on this podcast that generated two million views We don't do two million listens. Yes. We do not per episode. Yes. We do not per episode Yes, we do. I know the numbers trust me. We don't 2.2 A month a month.  Y'all grew that with audio No, that's always video from it's always been video always been video from the beginning Really? Yeah, and we would and we would and I'm not to cut you I do want to hear your point but like but isn't patreon audio is that video patreon is both Okay. Yeah, so it's like what we did is patreon the whole different thing But what I think is having that video component is just the best advertising for your podcast because there is this youtube algorithm That's gonna push things in your face. There's no algorithm for audio yet You're never scrolling just a random podcast feed on the inner on your like a podcast app and they go I'll try these people. I don't know on apple. It is on apple. It like I don't I don't know That's what I was thinking because it's so long like a two hour podcast Is too much to digest for the first time not knowing who the hosts are but five minutes on a clip about a Content that you would really enjoy that but apple will recommend to you podcast based off what you listen before That's such a big barrier of entry two hours, you know But it's also people that choose that app for that thing opposed to youtube Where is that actually where you only listen to podcast or are you watching andrew schultz? Because of stand-up clips or maybe found him through another clip and now you're watching a podcast I feel like the reason apple does it better is because more like this people have found us through joe rogan He had yeah Maybe a porn star on once and then horrible decisions was on next speaking of that That's why horrible numbers are through the roof right now.  I was like This is an african's only podcast you're lucky We went from 27 white listeners to 29 real quick y'all went way up I'm just saying having that type of opportunity to have your your content advertised for free by youtube It's just like it's just it's a no-brainer and also social having the clips go viral Oh y'all pay to have us on that little featured page. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Well, I know we know I'm just saying we never pay but our clips just will go viral happens with flagrant all the time We'll be talking about ellen and then all of a sudden people will discover it But the thing about youtube also is like I did rogan once I had a ted talk right All the sudden There's this synergy between audiences that the algorithm knows about So I go do rogan and my stand-up clips are getting you know popping whatever all of a sudden this ted talk I do goes viral and I think it's over two million right now But it's because all those listeners of rogan also like ted talk. So youtube starts going oh watch you like this guy You're probably gonna like this guy's ted talk because you guys like ted talk a while ago, didn't you? Long time ago. It was the second time I went on surprise. You didn't even pub that more. It was a good ted talk Yeah, it was fun. I loved I I was really cool pinnacle of like entertainment. Like I made it a ted talk That's like the pinnacle of like, uh white Uh I talk for a living this state state You know who got a good ted talk wallow, bro. Yeah Wallow got a fire ted talk Wallow got a fire ted talk chris. Where you at? I want to ask you something Is he on Yo, it talks us about the the audio video thing real quick. Give them give some tips Well, I mean, I think what andrew says makes sense. I mean, I think the The issue in podcasting is discoverability, right? And I think you know youtube's algorithm is a lot more friendly towards that than itunes or even probably spotify But I think the thing you always have to try to balance that out with is that and I think you mentioned that earlier is that An audio listen is worth more than a video view if that makes sense If you're comparing it one to one, right? And it's not always a one-to-one comparison But just in terms of something like a cpm audio is worth more now as more people Kind of migrate towards video in the podcasting space You might see the the prices come down and meet somewhere in the middle But right now, certainly audio listen is worth more the question is You know, obviously the community in a place like youtube is just tremendously bigger than the podcasting space right now There's more things out there So it's really I think you know curation and discoverability are just the the two issues that everyone's trying to figure out Yeah, so videos would be for promo and marketing and audio would be for The dollars I mean, it is not exactly accurate that they're worth more. Yes, it is. But how I have I have an advertising agency All right, I'm gonna give you a peek Yeah, because you my man and this is like I feel like you should share information and Show people what's what's possible and what's what's out there? I'm just saying I sell the ads for this podcast and flagrant and I sell them based on the youtube views and the audio views And they don't get counted differently. It's a grand total of them both Saying is it was solely youtube right even I'm sure you know when you get paid through google or youtube It is different from the cpm I mean chris taught us that shout out to chris by the way who put horrible decisions on Yeah, and I've seen the brewing it isn't but yes that cpm was so important when we were getting paid and he taught me a lot about that It's good. It's good. It's cool. I'm telling you You can merge them for both opposed to people on youtube who can't do that what I would say is this Technically in terms of like an advertiser scale Right in the way that we calculate them. They're the same But what chris is 100% right about is that an audio listen is more valuable In a way because the amount of time an audio person spends on a podcast is longer than video That's what they're painful. Exactly. Yeah, so I think in that regard it's more valuable But monetarily speaking in terms of like if you get 200,000 views and 200,000 listens You still charge in the company you're advertising on 400,000 You know what I'm saying that I'm not explaining an ad read versus a youtube ad Let me clarify that the drop in ad That's totally different But that's what he's talking about and that's what yeah, but you're talking about youtube. I'm talking about ad read I'm talking about ad reads like the ad reads are the combination of both of those view counts and listen counts together Right. So y'all you put the ad reads in the videos. Yes, of course No, I'm saying I wonder if that I wonder if we're cutting our nose off despite our face in that situation It feels like you're giving away a two for one No, no, no Trust me We don't compete over here Hey, listen, if we can make more money All I'm saying is like from my understanding of the business I can only express my understanding of the business It used to be that they didn't care about the video ads in the early or the video views in the early days And now since so many podcasts are watched Right All of a sudden those ads Count and they are are way more valuable than they used to be and now they're equivalent in terms of the overall number I think it depends on the podcasting. It does. Absolutely. So like for example, it's platform based What you're saying is true But there's a movement within podcast in some parts of the podcasting space To not count youtube it's it's all going to shake out one way or the other But what you're saying right now is is 100% correct and and the reality is is there are certain podcasts that are just At the end of the day, it's like do your listeners fuck with what you are Telling them is good in those ads, right? Like there's a podcast Obviously like the reed right which has like insane synergy with their fans And the things that they suggested their fans which I assume they actually believe in really strongly their fans buy So it don't matter if it's video or audio. I know they only do audio They could say now we want the highest cpm because we know we deliver Yeah, there are certain podcasts that do big numbers, but they can't sell a single thing That's a fact. So their cpm goes down, right? So at the end of the day, it's not just a numbers game You know flagrant we kill it.   You have to have ads on your podcast. I 100% agree Like honestly, I was terrified that joining the black effect. You wouldn't have ad reads I thought that before we understood what the business would be I thought you know what like we're gonna just basically have to pay to play like Illuminary type of thing and I don't want that I don't want anybody to ever have to pay for a decision in a place that's not accessible Or like I want to keep growing. I don't want you to stop finding us And the fact that we could do ad reads I love it, especially when our ad reads are fun.   It really works But yeah, it's an evolving business It is absolutely And it's so new man But it is gravitating more towards video as people are spending more and more time on youtube and as podcasts have grown But that's because people ain't got jobs right now But it's also because the youtube space is where podcasts grow It's different I'm just thinking like that too. Yeah, I can't think of a new podcast that popped without video No, that's a lot of like Like the video popping is more rare in the audio But a new one that got really big that doesn't have video. I can't think of one It's a lot What's one? I don't think we're in that lane. I think we're watching funny stuff I think that's why you can speak that way and then I agree, but I mean when I'm listening for like npr We're like like monster type of podcast. I don't like to listen to podcasts that have energy Oh, that's a great point like those news ones are bigger than anything Yeah, the news and the long form story I love to see people people like reactions in comedy but with with the other Real like in-depth conversations and things like that.   Look at this Yeah I think they're grandfathered in from a time where like You know audio but um Even I look at the numbers ebony k. Williams those were holding court like she don't have no video But it's I wish they did I do too. I want to see that's an interesting thing like the news Informational pods really succeed without a video component radio. Yeah, but at the same time there's I mean what you guys do in the morning is talk radio That's why we're the number one urban. I hate the word urban podcast The clips when when like you do some funny moments and I can hear it I do like seeing it after but like I don't want to watch the breakfast But when you really think about like the the rise to to fame of the breakfast club That doesn't happen without you to audio and video combined And there's a celebrity component there. So you also have to add the celebrity Yeah, exactly. There's no one thing because we weren't that initially though So like literally 10 years ago. We started we did that from the jump.  We got every single interview. We've ever done record I did want to watch Monique though. I gotta be I went straight to you too That was a good one. But I think what happened. I would realize this when I would go overseas Like there's this profound effect that you guys had because you guys became like the one place for hip-hop news Right. So it's just like if you're a hip-hop fan in sweden, you watch the breakfast. It was religious But we get 10 million downloads a month in the podcast. Oh, and that's not even shocking. That's the fourth Uh, that's the fourth highest place. They listen to us. Right, right. Number one is still radio Obviously, yeah, two is youtube three is instagram social media clips I'm just saying like that.   It's possible. Yeah. Yeah. This is the youtube rabbit hole. I don't fall down I'm glad that y'all came today because this is uh, this is the second time me and mandia spoken in five months Yeah, I did just We text each other. We spoke on the phone one. Oh, okay. I get it. So, okay, okay And I do and I do want to bring that up because while we're talking about podcast podcast networks I I am apart and I'm not gonna, you know, just because okay Well, yeah, I do the same to him because y'all still y'all gotta talk Uh, but I'm on another network right now and I'm with two two new co-hosts that aren't familiar Oh, I'm on the job at a network. I see the thing is my two co-hosts have never potted before No, but I wanted to talk about it because as far as also a lot of Uh, podcasters at uh aspire to be a part of a network And so they expected pretty much for like A report card and I'm like, listen, we have to look at it. I come from a corporate background Where I can't go to the ceo and say, hey, how do you think I'm doing? And I think they expected that from joe I think a little bit and when people see us with you I think they just think that we talk all the time We have dinner because we're a part of the black effect and I'm like, no, I don't have access to just be like Hey, charlamagne. Can you tell me how we're doing? What's our numbers? What am I doing? And you know what I mean? So I think a lot of people Um, but I also just feel like because of the busy person and ceo that this man is For me to call him and ask for a report card on how we're doing. It's horrible decisions No, we see how many people are in those threads with iR I would be more than welcome to give you number two I know yeah I hit y'all up a couple weeks ago and told y'all Yeah, that's when we spoke I just don't think it's accessible and for me also just to be respectful of what you're building with the black effect You drop you are dropping shows almost on a weekly basis So a part of me is almost selfish to to feel like I can just hit up a network head And be in that way. I don't know that that was my take on it So when I say it it wasn't even in slight, but it was just like I'm not doing that with charla.   I heart does we got a scheduled call next week, but I feel bad now because I'll be calling you for nothing Who says you can't I don't even know what's happening right now. What is it? Just nothing. What is this? What's going on? Tell him Andy yet. Okay. I mean it's not anything So basically there was a meeting that we had for on my other network on air and they want to see the thing is Yes, but they wanted my co-host live and what's wrong with that nothing I'm just talking. We mentioned the show. Let's talk about the show See the thing is for motion But I bring it up to say we had a meeting on air on mic. I think it's funny by the way. I see your guys clips on instagram Thank you. Thank you. It's funny.  Like I have no knowledge of youtube So listening to you talk like this is all new like but also with our content. Yeah, everything is not monetized like art We need to help with our I learned this the hard way because youtube now popping though As many as we get on audio To 20 we get like 10 15 20,000 On the audio y'all tell people to go to the youtube page After four years of just talking I forget people would be in the youtube like y'all bitches need to put makeup on I started wearing makeup like all right. I guess that's why we here today You know, I mean we got it. We it's it's learning. It's also you need a nice visual I don't know. I agree. Like your guys visual was well now you set up that you guys have the studio But the uh, what is it called? What was it? What was the old uh, the whole life? No, no, no engine room like engine room Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's like you gotta do the set. I was part of the reason why which is why I've never went over there. Maybe and I are about to build our set especially for I mean You have to if if someone's gonna be watching for two hours. It's gotta look nice You know like flagrant is super detailed.  I'm always talent first. Okay. You can't reach out We just added a clip channel to ours. And that's your Click channel, yo To be fair, we did talk over the summer we were talking a lot right before we I mean, you were on all the meeting calls. Thank you for that. Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, I was shocked about that Like but again, I guess again, it's probably just Thinking corporate I'm not going to the ceo to ask him for a report card And so, you know, even me sharing that joe was like y'all can talk to me y'all can call me You're telling me I can call you I can talk to you.  That's all that's all.   I want everybody to win I'm not in competition with no, but I want everybody to win. Okay.  I try to be like this Yes, like imagine if you're saying boat was running and he was looking to the left or the right to see you can't do that You got to just go. Yeah And when you get to where you're going once you cross that finish line, then you look back you'd be like Oh, I'm already over here. I don't know But there are certain people that um when they fail it feels very good There's certain people that you don't enjoy when they take a l not a l Really, I like I like seeing people get what they deserve I hate the way he talks The way he talks, I hate Nobody ever said no more than this guy You could tell charlie you could be like like yo, you got timbalands on he'd be like, nah, I actually got a construction bullet I really don't like to see people like lose, but I do like to see people get what they deserve good.   Yeah, I know that So I'm trying to treat you in the most cordial way possible because I know where I'm going And there'd be no reason for me to beef with you because I know it's eventually Is gonna be beyond you right? So I have no reason But if you treat me like shit when you really don't have to I do not feel bad if anything happens It's hard to have that energy when you're doing well, which is why I can understand why you're speaking that way Like the better I do in life the more I feel good about everybody else And I'd be knowing when I hear certain people talk, you know, I can I can sense pain You know what I mean? I can sense trauma.    That's all right. That's true.  So I really don't be listening to nobody That's what I hear but I'm not crazy. I promise. No, man. Do you definitely look at the shirt? It's just a Buddha house That's what I tell men right before I peg them. It's okay.  No, I'm not though. We were doing an episode. I forget what it was This shit was the funniest thing ever Mandy said to my face We're talking about something I forget what it was birthday girl something I should be like honestly I don't really believe in science like that I said what she goes Because I don't believe in science like I go like the whole thing of science Also, she sounded like a Trump supporter That's magazine Yo, what is she wait, what was she saying about gravity? She didn't believe in science Andrew goes, well, how do you think airplanes are made?  So what's up with what up? We're not gonna do this.  No, I believe in planets, but I believe this is Neil deGrasse peg serve right here It's just it's just that of course, I don't know It's I feel like it's what we should just take as fact and not question So I feel like it's fed to us and we're just not supposed to question it Which is why I question Don't do this to me right now. So I did it. So when you go to the beach and you look all the way over Why we got a flat earth there right here I didn't say it was flat I didn't say it was flat. Well, you gotta rock away.  Oh, let's get some good ones. Yeah, let's get some afghan idiots I start one about about I don't know if the earth is flat or not. Huh? Oh I would believe Joe Biden is a lizard Two flat earth is in the room.  Yo, but real talk though parts of the world are flat Okay, uh, yeah, I don't know Parts are flat Right. It's like someone in the comments Parts of the world are flat Parts of the world go up, parts go down. I like drums, bro. That's how I like my planets. All right. What? No flats drums, bro You don't like flats? That was that was a sophisticated joke to get right there.  We took my chicken. How do you look into the eat chicken? I took my chicken.  I thought it was some drum lines Only black people just do drums and flats.  It's chicken. It's the good part. No, not good part.    Oh, how? I don't know. I just felt like All right, what question we got you want me to go through our whole mail?  Stop thinking horrible decisions is all freaky. Yeah, we can We have a range here. Ask for some we have a range. Come on. Let's see. Come on. Tell you give us one. Um Okay, so Dhillon the square fit you either have to watch a man being wife or fiance or your wife has to watch a man being your Bang your witch one. Say that again. All right. He's not speaking proper English. Sorry. Okay. Would y'all Rob Stratomus 777 would y'all rather fight a hundred duck sized horses or fight one horse sized duck? Come on. Come on He was just really hyping you up Like I tell her and this is what Taylor is giving us That was that was disrespectful to me I felt disrespected by that.  Duck size One duck size horse or a hundred. Oh, yeah, you just stomp them all out dude Squish them. Yeah, but they're big though. They're big. No, they're duck size Like horse a duck size horse is lean and tough Now you can squash a horse Or a horse size Y'all answered already. That's why I'm like Do you want me to pull up one of these? I gotta pull up one of yours. We All right, it was on patreon. I love listening to y'all.  Yes, so she says his best friend is also his roommate and if they haven't fucked already I know that if they did they'd love it. They both identify as straight, but the energy is there His friend is really fine, and I'm heavily fantasizing about an mmf threesome. How do I go about this? Male male female the same thing you posted a jet hilarious just talked about I don't know if I should go and leave it in my daydream But plot twist his best friend is dating my little sister And she could never find out do I leave it alone? Do I wait until maybe his friend and my sister break up? Do I tell my man?  Please help me sort this toxic fantasy Well, first of all, I gotta think mmf. It's male male fantasy. Is that male male female female? Okay, that's the politically correct way of saying getting a train on you I'm old school. There's three people. It's a threesome A train is when you're waiting the train. It's like a circle. A train is a caboose like there's a One after the other Rose might have one here that ain't a train.   Yeah Got you got you now.  He's the same as a threesome.  That's just not like Well, we know it is for you.  He don't even play in LA no mo I'm being messy. I don't know be a messy No, don't make your eye like that. I don't know that man. I don't know that man I wouldn't know that man if you know that would be amazing.  They're athletes and no the entrepreneurs. Yeah big ball of brand They got everyone on the black effect network just start fucking. How about that?  Oh, yeah champs Glasses Malone. Oh, I love glasses. We do that. You have some games to chronicle Come on. Keep dropping all the black effect pods. Let's go. All right So some of those dudes you want a father and son It was just it's a fantasy that's never happened. No, I thought about that though. I'm not wait. You've thought about a mother and daughter Yes, mother and daughter.  Oh lisa and zoe.  The craven zoni zoni cravis. No, I never thought about that. Okay.  Yeah, we it's a thought it's a fantasy.      I was dating How did how does she take that?     Like oh, yeah They're not allowed to What would you want the twins to do how do you mean really?  What if they what if it's like two guys and a girl or two girls and a guy Touching each other.  They have no choice No, but it doesn't count if you have one pussy like the girls. I don't know why I went like this when I said they shared heads But they they do Yeah So they said when they talk about finding a partner, they'll talk about one guy Yeah, because they have they share a body. They just have two heads on the body. That's too much That's I'm too indecisive for that thing. You know what I'm talking about, right? The two see if you could pull it up I don't want. Yeah, I don't want to see nothing You want to see it, bro? I think one of them's a lesbian too. Yeah, so she just kind of She's got she's got a steric pubic hair while her sister's blowing a guy TLC Abby and britney look at that. Yeah, they have one body But they got two full heads. They're teachers too. I looked them up recently No, no, that's not they they name them abby and britney on purses like a and b They did that. Do you think they pay them two salaries? That's would you pay them two different salaries charlamagne if they were on the black effect or one?   No, it's important Do they have one social security number? That's a good one so security number one salary. No, you're right. That is a good question You got two so security numbers two salaries. I mean they have two names So I would assume they go by two different people Damn, bro. Damn y'all got deep You can't I'm sure they both passed their driver's license exams taking the test twice They both got two separate teaching licenses But they are only paid one salary because as one of them told bbc, we're doing the job of one person Oh, wow Oh, wow salute abby and britney. Yeah Jesus Christ salute today We can't hear you taylor. You're not on the mic. I think they said when they tried to put them apart It was too risky. So they didn't do that. I believe I'm not positive But like a lot of sigmes twins have separate. They have double the worth How do you call separate them weezy?  Weezy.  Weezy said to me We're making fun of her no For being in mexico. Yep, right. She was in mexico, right? She was in mexico He said you went to mexico to be with the whites. I said no, she goes she goes. I that's not true I stated a mexican neighborhood.  Yo, that's where mexicans live.    What you mean me?  I'm just saying. Yeah, you don't have no kids yet, bro. You need to relax. Why?    Don't do that. That's years. Don't do that bullying light-skinned people.  Oh my god, and that's all on karla All on karla. Yeah Light-skinned wax a light skin wax really boy or girl a boy. I don't even think he got female cum Like They're like, yo predict what percentage of waxes come up boys. I'd be like 99 I don't think there's one girl come swimming around in there at all Congrats, right? Yeah, salute the waxman karla. All right. He got a little young m a cum, maybe That's the baby Listen Mandy and we anything y'all want to say before we get up out of here Um, no y'all make sure y'all check us out every monday. That's horrible decisions Type in horror wherever you listen to your favorite podcast and we'll pop up Again, we also do have merch. We have more dropping in february. So that's at whore high I want the Buddha whole shirt. Yeah, I'm dropping this in about two weeks So y'all can get this I ain't gonna hold you and some other stuff. 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Hello and welcome to module 32 of Chemical Kinetics and Transition State Theory. So, now we have finished basic understanding of transition state theory. Today I want to start another chapter and understanding of few more fundamental things basically leading to molecular dynamics simulations. In today's module we will look at one fundamental question what is this potential energy surface. So, we have been using this potential of X throughout this course when we write H Hamiltonian as kinetic energy plus potential energy. We use this potential energy and so today I just want to give a very brief introduction of what this potential energy truly mean. So, to understand that it is necessary for us to delve little bit into quantum mechanics. So, let us start with that. This thing will not really I mean I will not have any questions with quantum mechanics in terms of exams and all, but this is for knowledge. So, quantum mechanics essentially tells us that energies comes in concrete levels in discrete levels. They are quantized quantum mechanics. So, the equation that I will be looking at today I will look at only one quantum mechanical equation which is H psi equal to E psi. This equation is called time independent independent Schrodinger. H here is a regular Hamiltonian that we have been dealing with. In quantum mechanics these are in the language of operators do not worry about all that just a bit of technicality. This psi that is here is what is called wave function. I will not delve into what is a wave function in this course at all if you know it already if you have been introduced good. In short wave function tells me the state of the system. So far we have been looking at what is called position and velocity as the state of the system. In quantum mechanics position and velocity do not exist. What exist is wave function. So, it is something it is some function that describes my system that is all I will talk about. What is important here is this function this term energy. So, for any given system if I give you the Hamiltonian there are ways of solving this time independent Schrodinger equation. And there are actually multiple solutions to this equation. So, I put in label i. So, this at the end turns out to be a differential equation. I am not going to write that differential equation. It is a very brief and overview introduction to quantum mechanics. What is important is that your system exists in these concrete energy states E i's. So, where does this potential energy then comes from? What am I doing? Where am I leading to? I am leading to what is called the Born-Oppenheimer approximation. So, let us say you have a system of protons and electrons that is what molecules really are. They are a system of protons and electrons. You can think of any molecule H has one proton here. Fluorine is a big molecule with a lot of protons. I cannot remember how many, but you can imagine N number of protons, N number of nucleons and some number of electrons. Well, let me denote the position of all protons. Well, let me instead of protons, let me just call them nuclear to be more accurate because you also have nucleons as x N and x E. So, x N is the position of nucleus let us say and this is position of electrons. If I have multiple electrons and nucleus, so these are vectors position of electrons. So, the thing is I can write the same Hamiltonian as I have been writing so far, which is nothing but kinetic energy of nucleus plus kinetic energy of electrons plus some potential which is nothing but the Coulomb potential. So, Hamiltonian is kinetic energy plus potential energy. I am writing kinetic energy is kinetic energy of nuclear, kinetic energy of electrons and some net potential energy. I will not even write the form of this. There is a concrete mathematical form that this kinetic energy and potential energy comes in. Let us not worry about that. Now, this equation that I want to solve now is x i i equal to E i psi i. It turns out this is near impossible to solve. Mathematicians have to write it for a long time, but one just cannot do it. Even with using computers, this equation is close to impossible to solve. So, what we do is what is called the Born-Oppenheimer approximation, introduced in 1927 or 28. So, I have written this Hamiltonian as kinetic energy of nucleus plus kinetic energy of electrons plus some potential energy. So, to make progress, what we do is define another Hamiltonian as just the kinetic energy of electrons plus potential, the full potential. I am just, I have just not written kinetic energy of nucleus here. And what I am going to do is h electronic I am going to solve for just the electronic Hamiltonians, eigenfunctions and eigenvalues. And I solve this equation for a fixed value of nuclear positions. This is a tricky concept to understand. It takes time to grasp this point. So, let me repeat this. What I have done, I fix all the nuclear positions. I have HF molecule, let us say, I clamp the hydrogen nuclei, I clamp the fluorine nuclei, fix them. I am only looking at kinetic energy of electron that is energy is electrons are mobile, they have some kinetic energy. And I am looking at the net potential that the electron is feeling with respect to these clamped hydrogen and fluorine. And I solve H psi equal to E psi for this Hamiltonian. There are ways of doing it. Let us not get into how to solve that. But this actually can be solved using a computer. This is why they are called electronic structure theory solving this equation. So, the energy that I get is depends on this HF distance on the H and F positions. If I change this position, my potential energy will change. How the electron is interacting with H and F will be different depending on where this H and F are exactly located. So, this energy that I had depends on X and N now. As an artifact of the point that I have clamped H and F or the nuclei. So, if you had water, I would have clamped oxygen and the 2 hydrogens. Whatever is the molecule, I have looked at all the nuclei, fixed their positions and solved X psi equal to E psi. I get some energy. Now, for a different nuclear configuration, I will get a different energy. So, this EI depends on X. But this is only H electronic part. My real Hamiltonian was this full thing with kinetic energy of nuclei. So, H is really kinetic energy of nuclei plus H electronic, where H electronic was defined here. Now, if I apply this H on this psi electronic of I, something interesting will happen. So, I will have kinetic energy of nuclei plus H electronic on psi electronic. This is equal to then kinetic energy of electrons on psi electronic. I am just opening the bracket. I have to put these little hats to be accurate. Do not worry if you do not understand why those hats are present there on these Hs. Now, this is equal to kinetic energy and H electronic on psi electronic I take from here. So, this is equal to nothing, but kinetic energy of nucleus plus EI of nuclear positions. So, I have just applied H into psi electronic of I. I have not made any actually approximation so far. The approximation comes in assuming. Remember we want to solve H psi I equal to EI psi I. Approximation is psi I is equal to psi electronic I. This is called the Born-Oppenheimer approximation. So, psi electronic again is H electronic applied on psi electronic I equal to EI. Now, what we have noted is H acting on psi I looks nothing, but kinetic energy of nucleus plus some energy which is also a function only of nuclear positions acting on psi I. So, we basically what is Hamiltonian now? Hamiltonian is kinetic energy plus potential energy. So, now this looks really like kinetic energy of nuclear plus some energy of position. So, we call EI of Xn to be potential energy of nuclear. So, this might be a slightly confusing term. This potential energy of nuclei actually includes kinetic energy of electron in it. Remember that we have got this EI by solving this equation and H electronic was kinetic energy of electrons plus potential. So, EI actually contains kinetic energy of electrons in it. It is simply the net potential that the nuclei are feeling with each other after I have removed away the electronic positions. So, this whole trick is really a way to get rid of electronic positions. We are able to get an equation finally, which looks completely like a nuclear kinetic energy plus nuclear potential energy. And I have somehow hidden the electronic part into this EI into why I was solving this equation here. So, this is the trick. And therefore, I think of EI of Xn as potential energy of nuclei and so I will start writing this as V of Xn. So, just to give you an example, let us just think of H2O molecule just making things more concrete. So, remember H2 has only one vibrational distance here. Let me call this distance as capital R. So, what I am going to do is the following. I calculate the electronic Hamiltonian as kinetic energy of 2 electrons. H2 has 2 electrons in it right 1 from the H1 from the second from the second hydrogen plus the potential energy of the 2 hydrogens and the 2 electrons. I solve H electronic into psi electronic I equal to EI as a function of R psi electronic I. So, I fix this R, I calculate, I solve for this equation. Never mind how that those detail I am not getting into. There are many ways now that you can solve this electronic Schrodinger equation.  Any of these softwares can solve this differential equation. But this differential equation was solved for a given value of R. So, at the end of the day, what I get is I plot R here and EI which is the same thing as V. So, for a given value of R, I solve for EI and I will get different values at different. Now, let us just imagine how this plot will look like. I have already shown it to you. But let us just qualitatively discuss this plot. When R is large, well the 2 hydrogens are very far separated from each other. You see, then it does not matter if I change it a little bit. They are so far separated that the potential energy will be a constant like this. They are almost constant, if not exactly constant. When R is closing to infinity, the 2 hydrogens do not know each other at all. Now, at some distance of R which I will call R0, what you have is when the hydrogen, the H2 molecule is forming a good bond. You know H2 molecule forms a very stable bond. And so that is depicted by a minima on this energy surface.   So, your 2 protons are actually repelling each other. They have both positive charges and positive charges repel each other. And at this particular distance, it just so happens that the electrons can distribute themselves in a fashion which can stabilize these 2 charges the most. So, you will have a lot of electron distribution actually coming in the center. And once R becomes really small, so if the 2 hydrogen atoms comes really close to each other, well what happens then is that the electrons cannot squeeze in between here. So, your electrons are like this here and the 2 protons is repelling each other very hard. So, you get a very large energy. So, the 2 protons are very close and they are repelling each other and the electrons are not able to help that much because they are just too close to each other. When they become a little bit far away, the electrons can come in between and shield this repulsion from each other. And once they become too far, then it is irrelevant. The 2 protons not even see each other. They are so far away. Let us say they are 1 kilometer far away. Then the 2 protons not see each other. So, if I make even small differences, I will still get a flat energy surface here. So, this is R large, this is R optimal and this is R small. So, this is just an example of how an energy surface looks like for a very specific molecule. Now, you can choose any other molecule you want. You can choose methane, water, proteins, however big a molecule. The concept remains the same. I have all these nuclei. For a given nuclear position, I am solving for this equation and I am calculating EI. Now, as these nuclei configuration are changing, I will refine this EI and that will be my new energy. So, I just want to tell you about work from a far off era in 1931 here, introduced by two famous people, Eyring and Poliani. So, these two gentlemen were both have been overall huge amount of span of time, instrumental in understanding rate theories in many, many different ways. They 1931 in this paper. So, a translation of this paper, you can also see here. You can open this paper and read this if you want. It is an English translation. The original paper is in Germany, if I believe. They were the first people to do something very interesting. They say, okay, we have, Born and Oppenheimer introduced this idea of potential energy surfaces in late 1920s, either 27 or 28, I am forgetting my year. Eyring and Poliani said, one can represent the motion of the system of atoms by the concept of rolling sphere. So, they said, okay, I have these energy surfaces. However complex they look. This figure is directly from their paper. So, they said, let us think of these nuclear nuclei as classical particles. They are big and heavy.  That is going to be a disaster. But nucleus protons or higher entities, I can start thinking classically. So, Eyring and Poliani said, okay, I have this potential energy with me. Why not start using Newton's laws to start thinking of dynamics on this potential energy surface. So, they literally was thinking that I have these rough energy surfaces with minimas and valleys and some transition state sitting in between like this here. So, let us roll. So, let us say, this is my reactant here. This is my product here. Let us start with my reactants as some think of these as spheres rolling on these complex energy surfaces, okay. And you think of these as having some energy, I have rolled a ball on this energy surface and this comes here and it moves in this complex fashion dictated by the valleys, the ridges of this energy surface and you react and come out here, okay. So, these are literally you can really think of these as marbles rolling on some energy surface, on some surface. So, this was first introduced by Eyring and Poliani. So, we will discuss their ideas in the next module, which is basically called molecular dynamics simulation. In today's module, we have just discussed the basic idea of where potential energy itself comes from. It comes from the von Oppenheimer approximation. So, you can get a potential energy as a function of nuclear position. In the next module, let us see how we can use these potential energies to run molecular dynamics. Thank you.


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