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and got off to a weird start and the starting soon stuff was up too long bottom line is um we have ditched stream lab like entirely we don't use them for anything i know there's still a merch link down in the description i'm even going to be moving all the merch away from them as well for those who aren't aware um there's been a little bit of a tizzy between stream labs and obs uh stream labs is for those who don't know a um started out actually as just kind of a uh alerts it was it used to be called stream alerts and it just went on to become a series of tools that many people were using uh with streaming software like obs and then obs is a streaming software that is open source stream labs took obs and basically it's open source so i'll give you guys an example you probably understand better chrome is an open source web browser now you have things like uh what what's microsoft's version called edge edge yeah edge edge is technically chrome the chromium browser but you notice it doesn't have chrome in the brand name it is a chromium browser and chromium browser just means the base of it is still chrome but they edit it and modify it and do all these different things do it to make it their own um supposedly faster i don't know it is what it is so that's what stream labs did with obs with open source they took it and they sort of made it their own and did their own integrations and their own development on it the problem is when this happened stream labs reached out to obs and said hey can we use your branding and obs is like no why would you use our branding we're not developing that software yeah we're not going to put our reputation on your brand right that doesn't make any sense well stream labs basically said too bad so sad took the took the terms obs put it on their entire software package calling it stream labs obs literally that's the official name aka slobs and um yeah they went and trademarked it to prevent obs from even trying to attempt to do anything like you know fully trademark the whole obs thing so no one can do what they're doing it's they probably didn't think they were gonna have to worry about that but yeah especially from something as popular as stream labs yeah but uh yeah it's been a whole thing stream labs actually came out and responded on twitter today saying hey we're gonna get rid of that branding but it's more than just that it's actually pointed out some other issue stream labs has such as charging for premium features that literally you could just get for free on obs as it is so we just decided or at least i decided that you know what as someone who you know you you have a software developer degree i'm working on one bottom line is i think this is bullshit what stream labs both absolutely 100 so we are done using stream labs in pretty much every capacity probably by my next stream on friday uh so yeah the only capacity is we still have some merch there right now um and a donation link but that's all gonna go away and we are gonna be fully invested in just standard obs studio which is what we are live streaming from right now and you'll notice a little funky thing down here the ticker and everything it's not all set up correctly i ran out of time um but hey i'm pretty happy that we are using the bog standard we got some stuff set up we're using stream elements for a lot of our stuff instead of uh them stream elements has no issues with obs so uh we are just going to do our best to round this out we actually have more features by the way it's actually more feature rich it's just not explained so you got to kind of figure it out yeah um there's are a lot of guides for it out there but yeah we're gonna be sticking with obs studio moving forward um and have a lot of fun and i think everything works like i think if i do this oh yeah i i hope that was autotuned if it wasn't then i don't have that set up correctly either but i'm pretty sure it was autotuned um you guys let me know in the chat if it wasn't so that'd be it so let's actually get into the things we're talking today because uh here's what we got here's the here's the rundown we were talking about the game awards um basically what we're going to be doing is going through all the nominees for each category and eric and i are going to pick winners um and we're going to do basically what's a betting special now we don't have the bets locked in yet as in like what does the winner get and what happens to the loser maybe you guys in the chat throughout the betting special can come up with that essentially um the way i'm thinking of doing this at the moment is every esports category is going to be worth like a point um and then as we go eric and i was like hey is this a category we think is worth two points game of the year we can say is worth five points if someone nails game of the year that can be like a five point or something and that'd be the max amount of points you can get per category um so we'll figure out uh as we go here what the punishments are going to be what the winner gets i had debated on like getting a trophy or something for the winner um a literally a nintendo prime podcast trophy for the betting special champion um yeah be pretty cool especially if you get in grade for every every every victory for eric or nate um but yeah we'll see we'll see what happens there and then we're and then after that um we'll talk a little bit about the activision situation with bobby cotic because it's absolutely disgusting and i don't know how that guy got his position let alone kept it this long and i don't know how much longer he's going to keep it maybe he'll keep it period because the big investors right now are not calling for his head so uh let's get into this by reminding you guys that i am the tanner of a dance and this is the nintendo prime podcast and to my left and your guys's right is mr eric more hello everybody yeah yeah yeah how's it going buddy it's just going all right so it's not a podcast i thought a random thing happened in the beginning of it so well i mean changing entire technology the same day as the podcast is a bit of a pain i know i just gotta change one thing hopefully this all works i've tried to get this set up as best i can we're gonna get into the game awards baby let's go let me get my notepad up so i can write down uh my choices and the point values and everything as i said i've been a little busy here i guess no pad plus plus that'll work um well no maybe it won't well it will it will i just have i just have uh school stuff open out but hey there we go new we're good all right so you guys ready for this baby let's go all right it should have worked so um i guess we'll start at the bottom here and work our way to the top so we got best esports event so let me write this down here we got we got best e for event and we have to write it down because the game awards are sometimes not announced it so we need to actually know what the awards are so best esports event obviously we need to be one point categories i'm gonna do i'm gonna put a little note here above these these are one point categories one point are you doing both of our nope just mine you do yours all right so best uh for this this is best esport event so we have the 2021 league uh legends world championship the the international uh 2021 pgl major stock home 2021 the pub g mobile global championship 2020 and valorant champion tour stage two masters now i know about nothing about esports i know some of the games yeah but i don't watch them and i don't know what's really really popular yeah so rock paper scissors who picks first good oh just handed it to me on this category i mean i already know which one i want all right i'm going valorant i'm i'm just going to assume one of the new the new entrance i'm sure is going to get some recognition maybe maybe yeah valorant champions the only valorant one so all right which one are you going with Eric uh for one point don't really know league league i had a feeling you're gonna go league all right um let's let's back up here oh look at that fancy it's almost like i planned for it to be that fancy but i didn't yeah nominees you all categories all right now we got the best esports coach which again i don't know anything about esports so um best esports coach the nominees are area silent uh gazeev um andre eng i'm probably butchering their user names there cannot say that aim adri biad 3 horde eski i don't know james crowded or crowded well i mean that's easy um kim kinama giga i i literally don't know any of these so um i'm gonna go with the only one i can pronounce james crowded or counter i mean uh and watch i'm actually pronouncing it wrong it's crotor yeah right people are probably yelling on this in chat you how do you mess it up how do you how is a nintendo guide on an expert on esports i don't see smash bros up here for you i don't think any smash bros stuff in here well too i don't see any of that so give me a break give me a break what are you what are you picking i'm going to go with uh andre andre all right i'll give you a boat right the dugs it's a little bit of a different name oh hey look at this i might be able to just click next category let's see if it works these are all one pointers low key in the chat's all the middle one the middle one the middle one yep you're ready yeah go for our next category best esports event perfect this works we didn't know wait wait no wait wait we're previous yeah we're gonna go backwards backwards yep yes got it best esports team there we go best esports team well we got atlanta phase we got dwg kia we got natus vincere the sentinels and team viri team spirit so we got the games that are needed got door to two valorant counter strike league of legends and call it unity yeah so you want to go first on this one sure now i'll do a dwg kia dwg kia probably you just go with the i'm gonna go with team spirit because you know what we all need a little spirit in our lives don't we everyone right right who you guys who you guys gonna go with you guys listen and then who would you pick who would you all right uh by the way guys uh the new command in the chat i believe everyone can do exclamation point eight ball and ask yes or no questions if you guys want to have a little fun in the chat like who's gonna win the betting special um all right next category uh we got best esports athletes oh okay it feels weird calling them an athlete i mean i don't know what else you would call them though yeah let me see here let me see here uh let's go and we got chris simpler head show maker sue magnum egg collapse i you know what simple intends i'm just gonna go with their yeah stage names the best one i'm gonna you know what i'm just gonna write one down see what happens yeah um sticking with my theme well you already got one started right now it's i went with chris simpler i'm sorry i see the word simp and i go i mean come on come on i gotta represent all the nintendo prime simps out there they exist right maybe if they do i apologize all right i went with collapse collapse all right previous category let's see here we got best esports game so at least i'll know these um so let's see i'm pretty sure you're going with donut too right no you might go league you're probably gonna leave i'm sure no i knew you've gone league all the way right going with league again yeah going league again of course you are the best one you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna say counter strike just out of nowhere it's been it's been around forever yeah yeah you know so it was door to technically yeah um but yeah i don't i i think giving call of duty any sort of like the team's fine but giving the game a victory right now given what's going on yeah anyways and the other thing the thing is i know like war zone is still really popular but all right next up we have a most anticipated game so now how many points we want to make this because this don't feel like a one-point category especially when breath of the wild twos on it yeah so most anticipated games right now remember it's about who wins and who we want to win so there's elden ring yeah god of war ragnarok horizon forbidden west the sequel to the legend of zelda breath of the wild and starfield i will note there has been a beta for elden ring so some people have actually played it yeah okay and that could affect both gotcha but but most ended well how many points you want to make uh do you want to make it a three two three three pointers sounds good to me this is a big one this is a big one most anticipated game is a big one so like i know we both really want to yeah i'm not though because like because it's it's it's just you know that's good that's good my vote but is that gonna win i mean elden ring i know has been just massively hyped yeah you know sony fans are gonna be all over horizon and god of war yeah you know starfield microsoft people man i mean i guys i'm a zelda guy i gotta represent yeah breath of the wild two i'm just gonna call it two i don't know what it means what do you go with ragnarok ragnarok all right probably way off and who knows probably the last place but who cares doesn't matter um best maybe you indy baby you indy all right how many points you want to make this one anybody really cares oh so one pointer one pointer i'm hearing i'm hearing one pointer i yeah sure i mean i don't really sure sure all right i'm putting it under the one pointer category best a view indy now i probably haven't played any of these oh i think i don't want to pick that so we got the art the artful escape the forgotten city kena bridge of spirits stable and valheim i know what i'm going with already i i already know uh yeah because it's actually one i really really want to play and i haven't played it yet and i'm really disappointed i haven't played it yet so i'm gonna go with it because i also know it reviewed well kena bridge of spirits what i would yeah i mean that does look like a good game um we saw your knee three yeah just even looking at the art file but i went with the artful escape just because all right all right cool cool the artful escape all right next up i have no clue what i'm doing but content creator of the year i mean nintendo prime's not on the list so does this list even matter yeah right so you know what's negative one point you know what's funny about this list yeah so like look i watch a lot of youtube and i and live streams the only name i even recognize on this list is dream and i'm just presuming all these content creators are very popular and i feel really weird that i'm watching an award for a game content creator and i don't know like any of these people none of them look familiar to me now they're probably all live streamers on twitch which might meet but then again i know some of the yeah i don't know i don't know i like i literally like how like is anyone else like watching right now know any of these content creators i mean so like how many points you want to make this one i mean one because i'm on nintendo prime's not there so just because of how random it is no i don't think that a one pointer because like i just like there's just nobody are they the well can't be running dry like beat them up could have been on there i think he's big enough at this point and he'd raised a whole bunch of money for mental health last year yeah so that would have been a huge that would have been a nice get for them and obviously that's in my space and i understand like you want to go outside of that space and that's fine you know how about mr beast who now has literally the largest gaming channel on youtube i don't know if people are aware of this mr beast gaming is one of the largest gaming channels on youtube now so why wouldn't he be in here he's always helping people now maybe it's because people will confuse it with his more popular channel but i don't know man like i don't know so i know i'm going with who'd you go with i went with dream would you go with um you still go with fusely fusely or fuse sure all right well you got it right now all right give you a second i mean because uh i mean even then how about you know somebody we've had on the podcast too fake randall i mean with how much he has helped with playstation 5 and i mean just moving consoles i mean sure it's true it's true so uh next up we have best multiplayer and this is going to be top how many points for starters how many points do you want me to go with another three three pointer sounds good three pointer so we got best multiplayer all right so back from blood knockout city it takes two and there's co-op monster under rise more than one player new world and valhine so this is one of the first category where i'm like one i know all these games two there's a lot of really freaking good games on this list yes there is new world is like the biggest mmo that's happened since basically world of warcraft at this point monster hunter rise has sold eight million copies on switch and literally runs perfectly somehow a switch online game runs perfectly i know it's on the new server system but it takes two is just utterly fantastic knockout cities was a lot of fun we've been playing back for blood it's pretty great valhine was huge these this is like the first category where i'm like i don't really know what i would like i i'm i'll tell you my one logic i'm gonna eliminate it takes two for me from this category simply because it's only co-op and i feel like if you're gonna go best multiplayer you're thinking lots of players playing like you're not thinking of co-op you know i get you but that's also part of the knock for me for back for blood is that there is no couch co-op and well they didn't know pick back for blood no i know i mean in my heart i say oh a monster hunter but also do i really think monster hunter is gonna do it i want to see monster hunter get an award by the way i i i know what i'm going with and it's a game i haven't played yet so i can tell you it's not monster hunter because i play monster hunter not back for blood because i play back for blood all right what'd you go with monster hunter you want monster hunter rise okay oboe in new world because i actually want to play it and i've heard a lot of really good things besides the fact that obviously we had some issues with some uh invidia graphics cards with it and some bad coding or whatever but let's see here um that's a three-pointer let's get to the next one here um best sports slash racing how many points you want to give this one two two pointer got two pointer and we got best sports slash racing all right so the nominees are f1 2021 fifa 22 forza horizon five hot wheels unleashed in riders republic i already know what i'm going with i think this is an obvious one yeah and we probably have the same one maybe maybe don't hot wheels unleashed right yeah totally there's a lot of fun yeah um i'm going forza horizon five i mean i mean it's got a lot of hype yeah and it reviewed really well it does have some issues online but it looked it looked good too when they surprisingly for the surprise but like if you just sit down and play the game it might be the best racing sim of all time but again it does have some issues with online but it'll get that ironed out all right oh no whoa whoa whoa i have such a bias on this category do but then and fight simulators in here so do i and then evil genius too yeah which i have played and is also amazing yeah god i waited like 15 years for a sequel to that oh my god well first of how many points uh should we make another two or three well what what do you think i'm letting you pick better than sports so three so that's where you go it's funny because we play sports games like what it's better than that's pretty much all we play is one sports game hey craig house all right all right um i'm i know what i want to go with but yeah what do i think is going to win it's not about what i like the most but what i think the panel is going to vote for come on dude flight simulator man right i feel like it's just been around a long time but also it it's released on xbox series x and it's really good humankind is really good dude these are all really good games i mean i think i don't know man this one's tough this one is one of the another really tough category that i i literally don't know i think any of any of these five games can take it no for sure what'd you go with uh i went with the evil genius evil genius dude i age of empire is four but it's kind of a cop out because i have such bias i know you do but i know how good it is whereas like flight simulator i it's fun but i mean it's a sim i'm really gamey yeah age of empire is four i've been waiting 20 plus years i don't know why it's sim uh here we go basically the nintendo category best family game i'm not kidding four of the five spots are switch games i know um so so so is this their first four pointer are we giving us a four pointer all right what's our max point there's yeah max is max is okay so max is gonna be gaming the year eight five yeah and then nothing else is so it's either four or less for everything else i would say probably four less okay so this one we're probably four then sure on this one it is like a nintendo award basically so the nominees are it takes two mario party superstars new pokemon snap super mario 3d world plus bowser's fury and wario where get it together now i have a caveat here yeah when i think family game it's i think a game that everyone can kind of play together mm-hmm new pokemon snap is not that i was gonna say is that new pokemon snap single player i was gonna say is it multiple yeah it's like at least an animal crossing the horizon you get multiple people on the same island and you can play at the same time new pokemon snap that's that's that is a single player game now you could argue well yeah but it's e for everybody okay if that's the case then like every nintendo game on the planet should be on this place right um it takes two is couch co-op which is nice but also i mean you got mario party super star to be just played on stream was fantastic bowser's fury is amazing but again that's also a single player you can co-op it's not yeah i know i that's why i said worry we're good so it's a weird one where it's kind of like i mean you can say best part are we confusing like best party game with the family game maybe but like i don't know man but yes but that's something that yeah you could see when you see family i think this is i think this is one of those things where they're trying to say that this is like best kids game but they don't want to use the word kids because it's derogatory and then it takes two would that really be in there because it's more of a couple right right right man this is tough but how how is a single player pokemon snap anywhere near in this like family like this i literally don't know who's gonna win this yeah i mean bowser's fury is amazing but then is it gonna be held back is it detached yeah too also a really good game but a port right right i worry you this was a four-pointer right yeah family all right yeah i know what i'm going with what would you go with it takes two it takes two i'm going mario party superstars yeah i can't imagine a nintendo game losing a category with a four or that's it yeah maybe that's it they all cannibalize each other it takes two does it yeah it's possible it is it takes two might win by the default yeah just because nintendo games cannibalize each other in the boat yeah that that could happen i went with a super mario party superstar got it i just played it the other day it was great best fighting game so uh one right i love a lot of people are probably hating us let's go to let's go to let's go to that's fighting which probably i'm not a big fighting game guy but also i'm looking at this listen it's like these aren't really the big name fighters so um you know so we got so we got demon slayers um i'm not gonna bother to try to find out something chronicles guilty gear strive melty blood type lumina then we got the nicolodian all-star brawl and virtue of fighter five ultimate showdown yeah i know what i'm going with all right i chose nicolodian all-star brawl yeah that's what i was doing i just have i have a feeling that it reviewed well it plays like smash and smash is awesome yeah so i'm kind of going out the fact that it kind of plays like smash rose that kind of it does yeah i mean and it's popular nicolodian character i like nicolodian so good logic i like it right best role playing oh well how many points i have my thing organized by points of way or two what are we doing two or three what do you think best this has been a controversial category by the way yeah because this is the best RPG in cyberpunk in a game that got removed from the playstation store and for the first time in playstation history the game so cyberpunk 2077 is on this list even though it's the buggiest and they haven't fixed it yet it's been mostly patched by now but yeah you can't just ignore that it destroyed itself right at the beginning right so the the nominees are cyberpunk 2077 monster on to rise scarlet nexus shimmery have intensity five entails of a rise now to me this is between three games and i'm not really sure which way they're you know what i know i just hope nintendo fans don't get mad at me for it i'm trying to win i'm trying to win this isn't about what's best it's about trying to win yeah so what'd you go with tails oh sorry not tails arise tails right i just i got a feeling like i want shimming i'm intensity five to win it right it's the only category it's up for i really want smt five to win it i don't think it's going to though despite the good reviews i think tails of a rise could take it well that's a wash there conquers bad friday in there or conquers bad tail day in the chat nice all right um i'd love i'd love a best action adventure this this is going to be this is it also feels weird when you see a resident evil game on the list when it's always been a horror game but yeah nope now it's an action adventure game i mean it's properly they had to get it in there somehow how many points best action adventure we got psycho knots to metroid dread marvel's guardians of the galaxy ratchet including what department resident evil like this is i will give you a spoiler because you don't know because you haven't seen all the categories yet resident evil village is up for game of the year okay just in case i might try here i do that so usually when you think the five games that are given to you usually are also ones that are winning other awards yes but doesn't mean they're going to win it right right i mean psycho knots two is that was freaking amazing when we saw those that thriller and or that gameplay in c3 man like my my concern like i want metroid dread to get this but my concern is that it won't be popular enough with the panel but then it was popular enough to get game of the year nomination but yeah exactly that's i'm kind of worried metroid dread is not going to win any awards to be honest right i can i can that scares me i can see that then ratchet and clink hard and if i've heard guardians really good i got my not happy about it though i won't ratchet and clink again don't get mad at me nintendo fans right i haven't chose dread yet this is this is probably the category that dread wins and then is doesn't win best action game what are we doing here uh death loops also by the way up for a game so honey point two one two three two three two two we don't have a lot of two pointers in there best action game all right so we've got back for blood should really do death loop far cry six and return all all these games are really good i got my pick yeah all right i went in return i went back for blood back for blood yeah okay all right probably be death loop probably death i thought we're going death loop but i'm again yeah okay best vr er here we go this is going to be some unique ones here the best vr er how many points are you going to go one one one pointer i don't sure one pointer all right best vr er all right so we got hitman three i expect you to die two lone echo two resident evil four and sniper elite vr i went with i expected that to you want to sniper elite so you have written down yeah part of me was going turn 180 so i didn't choose him in three even though it's a pretty good experience because it's also available outside of vr um so as i said before obviously it doesn't mean the vr experiences are bad it's just the things that i think are best for vr are the games that are built from the ground up for vr and i expect you to die too your first one was amazing i'm assuming the second one yeah yeah so i mean what yeah you wrote that separately i know i did i know it was not really part of me it was like it's already written out it's already written out get out of your next category innovation and accessibility so okay it does explain what they mean by this how many points this one uh oh okay recognizing software and or hardware that is pushing them up uh medium forward and adding features technology content to help games be played accessibility yeah yeah which by the way i don't know what the accessibility options are any of these games so that would be nice this is going to be like this is going to be a total guess that would be actually nice if they actually listed what the but but things work okay so then why are the other games nominated for the categories they are you don't know yeah they don't give you they don't give you any information on any of the nominations i know which is dumb um because you have to play the game eric you gotta play the games yeah you you just want to be a i want to be a filthy casual and just have them tell me everything yeah they have strength okay well then look up the games on uh on uh we have time for that we don't have time for that all right how many points uh just because i like the category let's go forward all right all right and elevation and accessibility all right so i literally don't know which one has like the best and most accessible stuff for the most people to play um probably i got my pick i got the veil shadow of the crown i don't know anything about i don't know anything about the accessibility but i think this is the only category it's up for so i'm assuming it must be really good at it yeah i went far great parker parker six all right yeah i have no idea yeah um best community support oh boy yeah what's this one gonna be this is oh this is a wow what's this one gonna be how many points um another two sure best i'm just throwing i know that's right watch you lose because of it probably apex legends destiny to final fantasy 15 online fortnight and no man's guy yeah the best community supports this is how well well the community feels supported by the developers got it it's harder than my fortnight you as a head good support the whole time apex but like people love people love bungee yeah final message 15 really blew up this year too after all the activation crap yeah yeah and there's no man's guy which is turned into a good game so i got my pick yeah i got my pick so do i all right i went with fortnight sort of i i'm not sure yeah i think final fantasy 15 doesn't matter move it out yeah uh best mobile game so it's one pointer yeah yeah this is a negative one pointer if you get it right you lose a point that's horrible i don't like making fun of the game i know fantasian genchin impact league of legends wild rift marvel future revolution and pokemon unite so my heart obviously says pokemon unite right and i i've played it and actually really good but i i got my pick yeah yeah it has to be quite genchin impact but i you go the uh no i went actually one with pokemon wow pokemon unite yeah so i i'm going to genchin i'm going to genchin it's a really good game i remember when it was being made fun of ios and nintendo fans because oh my god looks like breath of the wild then you actually play it it's nothing like that um best indie game okay how many points for this one uh should we go with four on this one yeah i yeah i mean we don't have a whole lot of four so oh not just that it's yeah best indie game is yeah it's a major it's basically like goatee but for indies yeah essentially because there's no like you just gotta be an independent game yeah you can any genre so we got 12 minutes which you haven't played but i know you've seen trailers yeah oh yeah that's door inscription um ken of ridges spirits and lupero yep i know my god they're all so good i got my pick go to i i went death store i went 12 minutes 12 minutes okay that's a big one that's a four pointer yeah all right best ongoing game okay best ongoing game so uh how many points for this one you know what look go to run up a lot of shoes uh best ongoing game these are gonna be games that are either new or been around for a while because they're just you know best ongoing it don't end so apex legends final fantasy 15 online fortnight genchin impact and call it a war zone i'm gonna do you said two points i got my pick not it i went with cod granted i don't want them to win any awards but also i can't i mean war zones been so popular all year yeah but that doesn't mean it's the best that's the thing yeah award of the game for outstanding development of ongoing content right so what would you pick uh apex apex legend yeah all right games for impact that's one of my favorite categories okay so for sure yeah literally this this is the one where it's like you know trying to make a difference in people's lives for the thought provoking game with pro social meaning in a message oh yeah yeah so we got before your eyes boyfriend dungeon chicory a colorful tail life is strange true colors and no longer home i went with i went with like this thing so did i yeah i i it kind of feels like it's not going to be that one yeah right i just it looks so good all right best performance all right we're doing this how many points three best all right awarded to an individual for voiceover acting motion and or performance capture so erica mori as alex chen in life is strange true colors jan carlo as anton castillo in far cry six jason kelly is colt von in death loop maggie robertson is lady um i forgot how to pronounce that name from demotrescu from a resident evil village and then i can't pronounce that person's actual name but juliana blake from death loop man i went with maggie robertson from the resident village she was the big vampire lady yeah yeah uh i went with uh uh jan carlo as i wanted to go with him but i was like you know it is a as an actual professional actor really gonna win it i mean maybe i didn't play the games i don't know how good i'm sure the performance is great it's literally him in the game yeah uh best audio design well how many points for this one i love music all right four i love music it's not just music though recognize the best in-game audio and sound design not that i've played any of these games but i have but that's not that you know they're i'm a true gamer you know yeah there's no nintendo games in this list dred's not here disqualified right right bad list mario mario where's mario ades he's not here come up super star man i got mine um eternal for me uh atmospheric man well uh resident evil resident evil village all right next up we got five categories to go best uh here's here's your category so this is probably four of them because audio design was this will be the best gore and music four pointer all right so this is this is one that's just about the music we got the artful escape cyberpunk 2077 death loop marvel guardians of the galaxy and near replicant version 1.22474487139 yes that's literally the name of the game welcome welcome to near welcome to near yeah that's just that's just what they do um i'm looking at the composer names too yeah well yeah good um i obviously i don't really recognize that's okay i'm not gonna know every composer out there um i went with cyberpunk if there's any award cyberpunk objectively deserves to be listed for it is best score of music because that wasn't messed up that game was really really good with this music and i feel like they want to give it some award somewhere yeah and this this this category makes sense yeah i almost went death loop but what'd you go uh i went with the artful your full scheme i was thinking marvel just because marvel's marvel marvel music yeah best art direction 20 points for this one three three i mean what what do we add for um uh what do you want to know uh how many how many do we have under each category uh for one pointers we have one two three four five six seven we have nine one pointers we have five two pointers uh one two three four eight three pointers and two to just kind of five four pointers two to kind of level it out a little bit nope i already have it in three so um the artfuls gate death loop kind of like i'm i don't know i went like i'm not stupid if it's going to win any category it's best art direction where do you go with i was thinking psycho but i want to kind of well kind of okay kind of bridges best narrative two pointer yeah sorry not because we don't like story we're trying to balance it out a little not because we don't like story no best narrative all right so death loop it takes two life is strange true colors marvel guardians of the galaxy and i went with it takes two sort of i i just i have a feeling but yeah i could be wrong death it's got to win something right maybe yeah right best game direction it's up for that too pretty sure death loop is the most nomination it's funny is returnals got like three or four and it's not up for game of the year what do you want to do with this one too again uh best game direction sure best game um so we got death loop it takes two returnals i can ask you and ratchet and clink with the part best game direction from the lock it in there's the bait and over there locked in yeah i went it takes two again yeah i went i went with ratchet and clink baby get some people in the chat saying death loop yeah i don't think i picked up for anything yeah yeah game that year that's the five point that's the big dog that's the momentum swinger godi all right so we got death loop it takes two metroid dread psycho not to ratchet and clink with the part and resin the eagle i mean i know what's when we both want to like i'm not stew yes i mean i mean i wouldn't be i wouldn't be disappointed if it did so you go through here's the thing to be completely honest i wouldn't be disappointed this is the first so i'm gonna be honest this is the first game of the year out of all of the tgas that i don't actually know what's gonna like i think if there's anything it's death loop because it has the most nominations but that doesn't always win anything yeah and it has to win those nominations right right it doesn't win those nominations some of these other games are for the same award so it's like it's not obvious this year like because yeah the fans are 10% of the vote but the panel is 90% and i don't really know what the panel is going to pick right like yeah my heart says metric jump it was only up for two awards before this but it was still making game of the year yeah so i i mean this is the one time that it's like i just don't know yeah any of these six games might win i have no idea but it takes two is up for so many i don't know i know i already have it takes two winning two awards i know i don't know i literally don't know what's gonna what's gonna do i you know and i don't know um i have never really i honestly i don't know if i'm disappointed in any of them i don't really know death loop i haven't really seen a whole lot on it um but um everything obviously gotta be a decent enough game it's up for how many awards um like you said resident evil resident evil games are generally pretty decent yeah and villagers village was a good one yeah um and i've seen it takes two metroid dread and psychonauts i've seen those three um ratcheting clink i've seen ratcheting clink games in the past so you know just going off those it's i know it's a it's a decent series so to be completely honest like i said i this is one i don't think i'd be disappointed in any one so joe i haven't they can't they can't you know i can't i got i got mine locked in locked it in but i'm gonna save the file locking it in yeah save the file so i accidentally deleted save that uh wait i don't stop but i know exactly where it is and this is dga betting special dga betting special remember to bring your laptop during the dga well it's a long event anyway so i can i can i can i can just all right got it this year every you get an award and you get an award and you get an award everybody wins what do you think did you go with it did you go with it did you do it metroid dreads locked it did you lock it in i know shocker nintendo youtuber picks the nintendo game up for game of the year i don't care yeah metroid dread to me is the greatest metroid game ever made better than prime one two and three better than super metroid it is the best metroid ever made yeah and i am going to plant my flag in the ground and if the best metroid game ever made can't win game of the year then metroid can never win game of the year yeah no no for sure absolutely i mean i i that's my belief you can't release the best metroid game ever made and not win game of the year so if it doesn't win game of the year fine i don't expect it to it's not a popular franchise yeah i don't care metroid dread baby metroid dread yeah yeah yeah that was that was that was uh that was that was interesting yeah that was intense yeah so to get to the second part of our pocket yeah well first up what do you think about the nominees what do you think man 2021 was a damn good year for games i mean just just going off of you know how many were nominated for it or is it very top head that because there is there are a lot of games in here that are nominated for multiple awards so is it very top heavy of there are a handful of really really really really good games and garbage or you know it's kind of hard to tell but it's tough yeah it's freaking i like it's not the nominations this year because this is the year where there wasn't like that one obvious this game is better than everything on the planet year um a lot of big name games like horizon got delayed uh halo infinite doesn't fall within the release period to actually be part of the awards so like there's not that one giant game that you're like this is obviously and clearly the front runner for so many awards including game of the year now to me you could say well best metroid of all time but even then metroid is not an obvious choice because it's just not a popular series so right i i sit there and i look at these these things like even just sterile staring at the game of the year list i mean that is a really good list of games oh absolutely so for sure you know i gotta say though i gotta say that uh i want the people in the live chat right now to start formulating a punishment for the loser and a reward for the winner oh boy so the chat you guys sort that out well we talk about uh the next thing and i will ask at the end of the podcast what the consensus seems to be on what the punishment is going to be for the betting special for the loser and what the winner should we have our mods keep track sure because brian c i think i think i saw you in there um any other mods birdman whatever keep an eye on any mods there um yeah just kind of keep it kind of keep track of it kind of retry yeah um in fact i'm gonna ask the magic eight ball if i want to win no but that was before we got the bets in now the now the locked in now if you're locked in eight ball will i win the betting special come on eight ball tell me what i want to hear tell me what i want to hear oh the eight ball said no dang it yes eight dang it eight ball all right all right so uh the second part of this podcast do you know what's going on at activision blizzard right now i have seen some reports especially today i just kind of saw a couple things what do you see today um well i know apparently that the head of activision has threatened it like threatened the life of uh of an assistant assistant yeah 16 years ago yeah and so i'll know i know that there's a isn't this one how long i guess how long is this also like a very like um isn't this situation more like a lot of like sexual harassment stuff going on in the in the workplace things like that and nothing's been done about it for a long time um that's so that's what i remember about this and so okay so there is a bunch of civil lawsuits happening from the state of california and the federal government although the federal government might have settled it i don't remember um but there's basically a massive lawsuit happening against activision blizzard over um accusations of um in inequality with pay specifically for female employees and inequality with advancement and then a bunch of sexual harassment including i'm gonna get a little sensitive here for a moment folks so forgive me but um these are very serious allegations um you know including uh we talked about this briefly once before but hey the show's for adults guys someone there there is basically someone who got raped and then killed herself because of it um there's someone uh basically lewd picture well she didn't really kill herself because of that lewd pictures of herself were shared so let me clarify this maybe rapes the wrong one i think she was dating somebody um a higher up at activision who shared naked pictures of her with fellow employees and that's what made her kill herself for correction i don't think it was actually rape so i want to clarify rapes are very serious actually but it doesn't matter whatever was done led to this person taking her life that was one of the big stories to come up there was the cosby suite which wasn't part of the lawsuit but people kind of the media kind of discovered after the fact that all these people taking pictures of bill cosby after he's already been you know convicted of what he's been convicted of and inviting women up to the suite one by one for god knows lots of sexual harassment there's been two or three major employee walkouts including yesterday yesterday's walkout was demanding that ceo bbcate steps down and is no longer CEO he's still ceo as of right now um the thing is the story big story that came out yesterday was the wall street journal put out a report um because basically bobby catec has been protected under the guise of maybe he just didn't know kind of like yuzugimot over at ubisoft where he was kind of protected under the yeah people are all mad at him but also did he actually know did did the did it actually get past hr and pass the people below him to the top because it doesn't always get passed everyone to the top the ceo right even though he's responsible for everyone there is layers and if it never reaches his ear he might not be aware well the wall street journal came out with a report that yeah he knew not only did he know he didn't fire anyone for it he covered it up and he didn't tell anyone on the board has there so he so basically has there been any accusations against him like as like participating he has not been accused of sexual harassment itself although the story now about the death threat but that's not sexual harassment that's no so what happens so so that so that that comes out basically says no he knew about it and also tried to hide it that's an accusation not proven right um but bobby catec's been actually weird this whole time when the initial lawsuit came out publicly from the state of california his response was not only is this not true if you don't rescind this lawsuit we're going to leave california like threatening to take activision out of california well turns out the accusations had some truth to it and the employees basically walked out and uh yeah um that didn't happen activision is still activision blue is still in california hmm the state that filed it against him made this public after three plus years of digging into this this wasn't just a willy nilly you know we heard one thing so let's file a lawsuit they did a lot of research and discovery um supposedly activision has been unwilling to turn over various documents um even though bobby catec you say we've been fully compliant they haven't been um bobby catec uh has come out said oh yeah we're gonna hire this one firm to um help us you know become more inclusive and more this this firm has a history of actually working against like defending people who do sexual harassment so why would you hire a firm with a history of defending harassers to be the ones that are going to enact anti-harassment policy because they know the ones that they can enact that still keeps the culture i'm i'm just i know why everyone knows why but it's kind of like it's not for the employees benefit it should be independent of the people that are in charge that clearly can't do it right anyways the weird thing was after this article came out the board released a statement defending bobby and saying that we believe in in bobby catec we believe that he's the best thing for the future of the company and essentially that his anti-harassment know um you know the policies and everything in the industry leading changes activisions enacting um cannot be done without bobby catec after that broke out that's when the media dug up the story though oh by the way did you know bobby catec who by the way has been ceo for 20 years yeah this year was his 20th anniversary of being ceo of activision and now activision blizzard blizzard they dug up the story that has been known but has been swept under the rug that 16 years ago he literally threatened to kill his assistant and this happened it's been confirmed by activision themselves this is not you know an accusation that we don't know activision admitted when asked to comment on it that that happened and they said he was being hyperbolic and he apologized for it 16 years basically we don't care happened 16 years ago water under the bridge of course when you're seeing by the way 16 years ago he was ceo of activision you cannot be ceo of a major company and threatened to kill your assistant not even as a joke which they didn't state it was a joke right so he's being hyperbolic basically he's frustrated yeah right what level of frustration do you need to reach that you don't have the self control when talking to a fellow employee who directly works under you right who happened to be female too of course that you're going to kill them yeah this means a ceo of a major corporation that's flying private jets and very well could realistically be thought by their underling who it knows the entire schedule they're their personal assistant so you know the schedule you know the power this guy wields and you know that he could probably hire someone to kill you and get away with it and then he threatens to kill you i'm sorry you lose your job you can't be ceo of a company with death threat made from you to a fellow employee yeah no for sure that's an abuse of power yes and he survived that so are we supposed to be surprised and we know this is a fact activision is not denying it right and it's only because it was 16 years ago blah blah blah and it did come out of time yeah because the internet wasn't social media wasn't as big back in 2005 you know facebook was just getting out the like god yeah you know what happened and he survived he would not if this happened today you're gone you're gone you there's not a single ceo in the united states anyways that would survive oh god no a story about them be having a death threat and the company has denied that it happened confirmed true yeah by the company itself like yeah oh yeah he apologized for 16 years ago yeah i'm sure that apology went super far yeah right i'm sure that assistant still working and making millions for them right no they didn't lose their job get sent home with a little severance package i don't know i mean i can't speculate on that but i i can surprise me i can because i did i did some digging and apparently i'm not going to name names because the names weren't put out there publicly but from what i dug up for who was his assistant back then no longer works at the company and left 16 years ago now i don't can't confirm that this did it not say it's really hard okay because the details are scarce the social media wasn't big back then right so right they left but i was this even the right person that's the thing that's why i don't want to put names out there right but it's kind of sort of a convenient thing i'll say this bobby kottick at this point assuming well we know that that part is a death threat we know that he when the reports came out he was so cocky that his company had done nothing wrong that he was threatening to remove it from california as if that's some sort of threat to california is that they're going to give a shit if you oh yeah it's going to cost jobs and we'll go ahead you move you move away from all the talent is see what happens right so all these threats all these denials all these leading leading industry leading things and that's why your employees are walking out because you're clearly leading the industry right you're you're doing such a good job that 50 percent of your company's walked out twice because you know they feel like you're doing such a good job oh and by the way after the story brought the bobby kottick knew and was complicit oh guess what one of the people that was accused of sexual harassment and actually had a court case against them was one of the leading heads of the call of one of the call of duty i think sledgehammer one of the one of the lead heads of call of duty left yesterday quit because his allegations came back up because they technically were never proven true or untrue but it seems pretty convenient that if they're not true then why did you settle with the lady that accused you of it outside a court with apparently several million dollar settlement it's one of those works are weird courts can be weird but this is a reputation thing i get it i i do and if you are not guilty who cares they're gonna cost you millions in court anyways to fight her or you just handle millions of dollars and tell her to go quietly go away which by the way that's what cover-ups happen a lot of the time settlements outside a court is not oh my god they're not guilty sometimes you can say well it's because they're saving money that this person this was 2017 was not long ago this person's a multi-millionaire yeah that money was nothing to him they just wanted the person to be quiet until the person being you know making the accusations a lot of money and i can tell you when accusations are false about sexual harassment especially against men they tend not to want to give the female money this is just the history of these cases as an example tell you right now the shan watson has all this stuff in the NFL against him and he's denied all of it he's not willing to settle and give them a dime so is it true or is it untrue that doesn't necessarily don't know doesn't mean he's innocent either there's a lot of like i'm not saying he's innocent he probably isn't maybe he just doesn't think what he did crossed the boundary i have no idea it's possible because he technically never forced himself upon anybody and that's the worst based on the accusations anyway which is inappropriate behavior trying to make something happen but he didn't force it so in this case and review tech usa put it best we already know some things are true we already know some of the things he denied are now true and now the reports are that he knew about it was complicit and there's been no denial by him that that happened now today this morning a new story broke that some investors have now sent a letter some of the shareholders now sent the letter saying that bobby kottick needs to resign and that the two longest tenured board members need to retire by the end of this year because they're probably the ones that wrote the letter defending bobby in the first place now we don't know for sure right that's kind of speculation but right there's been no response from activision at this time um by the way the investor so it sounds like oh he's gonna lose his job right he's got he can't survive technically the the shareholders that are trying to get him removed only own between anywhere from 3.8 to 4.8 million shares that sounds like a lot there's 776 million shares so it's a minority stakeholders um that aren't going to be as concerned about the mass profitability there's specific shareholders that own 64 million shares if those people start asking him to leave that's a different story because they can start to convince others and make up the majority right now they basically said if they don't resign and if they don't retire they will advocate and try to convince other investors to not re-elect you at the next shareholder meeting um and whether or not that'll be successful or not whether or not they think that that threat's going to go anywhere i don't know because obviously i'm sure the first thing bobby did was pop on the phone and get a hold of the top and the top investors and say hey you're not going to side with these people right you know this is all bullshit right and you know because they're all because put it this way he's been CEO for 20 years he's made these people don't worry about he's made these people probably billions of dollars my bonus behind the scenes some of it's probably going to you just under the table oh yeah well remember he cut a salary only makes 60 000 a year yeah yeah that's his salary why don't you go look at his bonuses yeah yeah he doesn't need a salary no so view that you say put out a video saying that bobby caught it's a mom um it's a little extreme since outside of the death threat it doesn't sound like he himself sexually harassed anyone that we're aware of there's no accusations against him specifically the accusations are he knew about it was complicit in it and defended it and hit it and or is he kind of a puppet master type of thing that you know again well it's also what he did anything he's been CEO for 20 years like like look at this there was all these harassment um claims at at ubisoft right you know who's you know wiping his brow right now and thankful that this happened he's gima because guess what ubisoft that all the crap that happened there looks like nothing it it looks like gosh they they ripped the band-aid off too quick and hurt someone in comparison like this these are the accusations and some of the stuff we do know to be true from the discovery through all of this is so damning and yet the board supposedly and bobby think they are going to rise above the board or the statement officially and the no the no the board statement officially was sent from the whole of the board but that doesn't mean everyone on the board agrees right but it's the majority right and these two longest tenured people probably have a lot of influence on them let alone is bobby for 20 years yeah have a lot of influence on the board most of those people have in seats were probably handpicked my mom sure after 20 years yeah i'm sure so we have to wait and see what happens after everything yeah but it's certainly sounds like he might indeed be a monster yeah i mean because like i was saying you know he may not have done it itself well if he if he is allowing and fostering the environment it doesn't matter if you do it yourself you're allowing this to happen you're you're in it maybe not even to a certain extent encouraging it but you're fostering a place and allowing it to happen which could make it makes you a monster in a different way it's and again the death rate we know is really should have lost the job right there absolutely shouldn't even 100 the fact that vision knew about oh you apologize for 16 no no no there's no apologies when you're CEO right this isn't like a parent who's frustrated with their kids and is like i'm gonna go bury you in the back no this was a professional situation with a fellow employee i mean i don't know how many times i was told you know some mothers eat their own young so yeah i mean like i mean i i've tried really hard this whole time to not pass judgment but now that i know the death thing is real it's like i'm sorry i understand people make mistakes and can say stupid things but you know what those people when you're at the position you're at don't get to keep their job and he did and he's made billions of dollars well probably billions i know for sure hundreds of millions and it's not like here's the thing it's it's not like if he steps down the guy is not set for many lifetimes he's already super rich but you know what they say about the rich they don't like to give up the money cash flow no they don't so he's gonna do everything kind of hold on to it and every like he's the best person is he this all happened under him the what part of this makes him the best right choice for this job i mean if he knows what i mean if he's the one that set up the environment he knows i guess he knows what he set up and could reverse it when there's a thing at first the reason that bobby was given a little leeway i just dismissed it wasn't much because a lot of people already didn't like bobby was because the initial accusations that came out seemed to really be targeting Blizzard and Activision didn't own Blizzard this whole time so this culture could have existed before Activision bought them and they were keeping the company separate in different buildings and bobby you know may not have potentially been aware because of the chain of command but he was aware and it was also happening in Activision now so it now makes sense why they bought Blizzard because we already fits our company culture no and it's funny someone said earlier some in the comment to me they're like oh man you know surprise this story hasn't come out about EA i'll say this about EA i know some people that work at EA have developed games at EA all of them have nothing but positive things to say we could bitch about the game we could bitch about the money we haven't actually heard any bad stories about actually working at EA they pay well good severance package good retirement plan good health insurance and by the way they have some teams that are primarily female like the sims team is made up supposedly 70 of females so like like they are a company that very much couldn't get away with something like this for so long because it would get out there's too many female employees at the company for not to get out yeah so by the way this isn't me saying EA is a saint other than the for-profits and they have abused employees in other ways mental health lies or whatever but it's also not saying that it can't go the opposite direction either yeah i mean just because there's a whole lot of females doesn't mean that oh it could be the only opposite direction so my so many males that so i i don't think that EA has this problem i've always viewed EA as sort of like google everyone's happy that works there but not everyone's happy with what the company is doing yeah it's like we can be angry at the company but you're not hearing a lot of bitching from inside the company whereas we've heard bitching from inside places like even when cyber point 27 is seven was getting made we heard bitching from the project what employees we heard bitching from we've heard bitching from Activision and Blizzard employees for a long time we've heard bitching from Ubisoft i don't really hear it as much from EA from the internal staff which lets you know that yeah they might be just happy with the way their life is but we'll see who knows accusations come up then do you see a way that bobby survives this i mean he's never gonna survive in the eye of the public right but like Activision Blizzard owns a lot of really big IPs yeah and yes call of duty vanguard sales are the lowest call of duty sales have been on a long time but is that just a one-year lull till everyone gets over it you know yeah and war zones still they're evergreen game i'd like to say no but i mean if the big investors aren't i would never be surprised their stock has dropped over 75 percent of its value which you would think oh man that would make the investors want to dip or they just know that this is the time to buy and stock up because their stock is clearly being undervalued for the total valuation of the actual company it's just the controversy is driving the stock down the company itself is not actually it's worth significantly more than what the stock price is currently at and they know that yeah yeah but the question is will this controversy continue to drive it down and keep it down forcing them to happen yeah basically the big investors need to be the ones that decide that and people don't want people by the way people don't want to talk about this or that the stock prices stay really really low so normally when the stock prices drop investors get pissed but the stock uh people at um that own like huge stock stock at Activision Blizzard get paid dividend based on their stock so what happens because the dividends aren't based on the value of the stock dividends are based on value of your stock compared to what the company brings in so technically the dividends for like the guy who owns like 65 or 66 million shares he's actually going to get a massive dividend payment compared to the value of his share next time around so technically he's going to profit off of it now again no one's accusing the shareholders of being in the wrong but if all of these accusations turn out to even even half of them turn out to be true we already know one is oh if they if half of them turn out to be true like i don't know how investors can keep them there yeah like i i don't know i i'd like to say no he doesn't survive but the fact that he hasn't resigned already i've seen stupid or shit happen so and the thing is guys if he does resign i think he's you think he's just walking away and with nothing that only does he have all the stock options that he has so when the stock prices go back up he makes money up the stock again um he's going to get a massive separate package he's not just going to walk away with nothing oh god for 20 years i i mean with what i heard 16 years ago i got to assume it's at least been going on for 16 if not the whole time i mean the 90s was very popular time for this kind of stuff to happen too because no one was really talking about it everyone just kind of accepted that's the way it is you know there wasn't such big public outcry back then so i wouldn't be surprised if this was a i mean he became CEO in 1991 i wouldn't be surprised this was established in the 90s yeah this culture yeah and they just never did anything about it so obviously i'm passionate that he's got to go i mean the board needs to be flipped upside down they need to replace pretty much everyone in my opinion um and basically that's the only way under a completely new leadership can you really believe there's change like my thing is for there to be changed you have to admit there's a problem and bobby kottick originally said this isn't true we're going to leave california if you don't shut up about it and all of a sudden now is his tone is turned and he's the one that's going to lead the change wait he just said there wasn't anything wrong in the first place yeah right how can he say there's nothing wrong we're gonna leave california to oh yeah by the way i'm the best person we're we believe in creating industry leading industry leading what harassment because right now you are the industry leader in the video game world of harassment against women that is literally what you lead the industry industry leading in the fact that you have to actually implement this because a lot of places are actually you know not possible what i what i love about it is they say industry leading and industry industry leading industry leading for how we are going to be anti-harassment and all inclusive yet there's been no public statements about what the hell they're doing and according because they have because if they make those statements that's also them admitting yes the wrong doings in the first place which they're currently in court cases trying to deny right but also again while their employees are walking out in and the female the female employees are all going going nuts because a lot of them have experienced it especially from management and just been keeping silent because i don't know it's your job it's your family a lot of people can't afford to just lose their job like there's been a lot of people saying why don't all these employees just quit if it's so bad and it's like you don't understand people's individual situations to even make such a statement some people can't afford to just leave a job let's say you're being underpaid but you're still making 140 a year you as a especially as a female employee might not be able to start at that somewhere else there's not just jobs knocking at the door trying to hire you for that price they're trying to hire the fresh people out of college so they can get the cheap talent yeah they're not trying to hire the experienced talent all the time so those jobs aren't always available and knocking at your door so you don't know their situation you don't know what they have tied up in um you know in like retirement accounts and what happens to that if they if they quit you know you don't know what happens um to their health insurance plan plans or whatever they have going on some of them that can have personal um issues that if they went to a different company and got different health insurance plan it would change their doctors and that could ruin their children's lives like you don't know what's going on with their personal situation so i'm not going to judge anyone for not quitting the company yeah oh i i get you but this is bad yeah and it definitely has cost the company money because college degree vanguard is right now the worst selling college duty in like a decade so it's clearly costing the company or is it costing it enough because it's still going to be massively profitable that's the question because the only way real change happens at a company like Activision Blizzard there's one you know because because basically anyone i don't i haven't seen anyone defend them but if anyone is defending bobby cotton which i i'm sure some people inside Activision are um it's because well he's not accused of being a harassment people so i mean he like he's obviously not the problem he's not sexually harassing you know he's just complicit in the action right and he hit it from like i don't know how the board is it pissed if he hit it from the board then you wonder did he hide it from the board does the board does the board know and if they know just to complicit and if they know are they just like screw it well then bobby take all the heat yeah right yeah right i mean and here's the thing would bobby on the way out go by the way all these fuckers up here they knew too he just burned it down on the way out that would be crazy to watch bobby just if you if he gets forced out to just watch him just kick and scream out the door and just rip down the whole because he because i'm sorry if he's complicit and he gets kicked out the door he knows all the journey i'm sure he does there is probably crap not even in the law students oh i'm sure because we gotta remember these are the things that they found the discovery that we're hearing about usually what you don't hear about people and he wouldn't and so like he could burn that whole company down on the way out yeah but will he i don't know i mean that's why you get to sit depends on who depends on who does them wrong that's also why you get the severance package because it probably comes in shut up money no yeah it probably comes with an exit contract that he can't say anything yeah exit exit shut up money yeah yeah and also depend on how much is it gonna cost and then they then it's gonna how much is he gonna leverage against activision to stay but that's also why the board that's actually could also be by the board is standing behind him because they know if he if he wants like a bill don't if they don't stand behind him and they are complicit in it he will totally write their asses out on the way out if i'm gonna be told him look i'll step down but i want a bill and they're like i'm not giving you a billion dollars it's possible i don't know i ain't stepping down enjoy the controversy yeah have a good day yeah yeah i don't know i always wonder like i because i don't know how activision's board is set up so i'm not sure yeah so i know okay so if he doesn't step down like technically i a lot of a lot of um a lot of setups with board of directors um have it where you don't have to wait for re-elections to remove the current CEO there can be a joint agreement by the board to remove the CEO but i don't know how activision is set up and whether or not that's actually in their bylaws that they can remove him until the next re-vote um because it's usually set up because there's always usually a system of checks and balances where the board is supposed to check the CEO even when it's not time for him to be voted back i was going to say i'm sure there's got to be some sort of checks and balances maybe i mean if he i mean what if he does have absolute power if well he doesn't tend to to the shareholders absolutely right but here's the thing if he were to somehow end up in prison while still CEO you really think they're gonna not have a clause that can boot him and put it but but but but but would he be in prison well for starters i'm not saying this this because of this specific thing i'm just saying any any sort of reason that he ends up in prison for any yeah but they would just have an acting CEO he might still be getting all his payments and all his dividends he might not be acting CEO but he's also probably not fired i don't know he's probably on what they call like a a leave of an app yeah from the position yeah but he's not technically fired and it's still his when he comes when he comes a free man yeah unless he's voted out before he becomes a free yeah i don't know how they're set up i know based on the few board of directors that my dad's been part of some big companies um all of them have very different bylaws yeah so hence why i got screwed yeah and they didn't even go through the proper checks and balances and my dad probably should have sued the rest of that but yeah it's hard because it's a family thing so but it's also like it doesn't matter technically he was supposed to know before me yeah he was my superior and that's the way it's written is that he's supposed to be the one to tell me for starters and he's supposed to know about it before the vote was decided and by the way it's not like i did anything bad the actual CEO of the company it's a really sour spot for me because it happened right before my first son was born and it was a really good job and it wasn't one of those like oh you know you just got it because no no no no no no i was actually really good at what i was doing and it didn't matter because the CEO decided to waste the entire budget of the company on some stuff they should have yeah but is the company no longer exists by the way so that you know how well that went yeah um all right do we have any uh so do you guys got anything we're at the end of the podcast here do you guys have any what's the loser of the betting special gonna do and what's the winner get what what's the general consensus moderators what were the ideas floated out there that you think were worthy and if there isn't one oh boy our punishments when we think of it for ourselves they get pretty rough drinking ocean water yeah um running with a shirt off in the middle of winter out in the snow that was fun for you the funny thing is all the punishments were for you i know i know hot chip challenge the you ended up doing it which is like oh i actually wanted no no not any empty stomach not with the stale chip no didn't want that didn't think it was gonna be that bad no um pie to the face to you we've done the pie to the face to you we had done the pie to the shot winter dinner uh winter dinner winter dinner okay so the winner gets a dinner okay that would make sense yeah winter dinner that's not a problem winner wins two cinnamon challenge loser oh the losers have to wear a bikini on the podcast for a month uh month one maybe how does that work with youtube so here's the well youtube doesn't care you can be shirtless it's not that they're gonna see your bottom yeah you can be shirtless that's not a problem like uh reduce that you say this $50 donut was on his live stream to take a shirt off yeah um but i will say i will say this about the uh the bikini thing um i have made a personal commitment on my channel to never be the kind of youtuber that takes his clothes off but even if i was good looking underneath still wouldn't do it um so uh i'm gonna dismiss the bikini one just on the basis that i think it's just a little degrading and i understand the loser should be punished but i i don't want it to be like something that gotta remember like eric technically works in a professional field i might work in a professional field in the future um not really something that that can affect our potential yeah future like that but the thing is i have plenty of other stuff on this channel that'll make people not hire me so i'm just glad that it's a nintendo channel because most of them don't even know what's going on the loser needs to drink five most hated drinks in the night interesting if i lost i should have to do five shots of tequila on a live stream oh my god oh my lord i mean i can do it but oh my god is it in a row we already know what happens in a row we've been there we've done one of the but one of the no was it a better i think it was a gaming competition i lost to you and i had to do what three in a row yeah i think it was and i vomit it yeah now maybe at my stomach might be more iron compared to that now because you know i have to tequila that happens on what oh boy okay shave the head bald i mean that is not i mean that is a punishment and that doesn't affect our futures it just makes us really cold in the winter uh huh oh boy shave the head bald they're charged no no in the night i understand what you're saying but like i can shoot for five for four four hours and then like i can control all the stream and i do one an hour i'm fine right i mean i'm gonna be i will be drunk absolutely but i'll i'll be fine i'll probably enjoy it by the time i get to the third or fourth one i'll probably be enjoying it one an hour shave the eyebrows so i'm wondering like if i lost and i had to shave my head or my eyebrows would you approve would the wife be approved yeah i mean maybe shave my eyebrows because they're so bushy they'd probably grow they'd probably grow back in like a day um chug a box of bean booze with all that one oh that's a good one at once at once oh my god there's so much sugar but also so disgusting yeah lower dressed as zelda winner is link and jammed to zelda using using together during whole live stream you mean like we dance that's like a punishment for the winner too yeah right um you hate the taste yeah i'm okay i do hate the taste of the healer doesn't mean i can't handle it it just it also messes me up um hell yeah winter gets a copy of us a lot too from the loser okay i mean you could always go i mean since the winner gets a dinner i mean obviously yeah we we get what obviously loser pays well yeah i don't draw that it's not like winter's dinner okay so the winner picks and then he also pays yeah i know okay i like the winner i like the winner dinner idea is that also the losing bet though they have to pay for the dinner i mean well or do we need i mean we have more than i mean is that much so i'll say this the winner dinner school because we don't actually ever like when we're done with the show we're gonna get some food but we don't we don't really go out to restaurants that often anymore so it's kind of like that's what makes it special right not necessarily who pays right i mean sure you know you can say well yeah but we're at a restaurant so like we're at uh you know texas roadhouse i'll get i'll get the big 30 ounce sir because i'm not paying the name right but even then it's like okay you know with all the giveaways we do obviously money isn't necessarily a massive object that's gonna make us really angry oh for the loser but the winner could really still enjoy it that's a you still have your car seats yeah loser sits in a car seat for the whole podcast got it perfect that's what we're doing all right so winner gets the dinner and then loser gets double punished with a car seat for the entire podcast that's gonna hurt is especially with how wide we are and especially how long some of our podcasts okay yeah i have i have like five car seats out there okay so it'll be yeah uh so the question is which car so the thing is does the winner also choose which car seat oh yeah that could because i have multiple different ones that i don't know which one would hurt more it's not like i'm gonna i was like go out there start testing okay i know this one no i know can't test the head of time so no which one i have a feeling certain ones wouldn't hurt as much but i'm wrong right all right all right well yeah it's gonna be on stream it'd be for the podcast episode yeah so all right cool lock it in winner dinner loser sitting in a car car seat for the entire podcast oh back wrecking but hip wrecking digging in maybe some blood maybe a hip flexor there will be blood there will be blood there will be blood cool sounds good now here's the funny thing by the way guys anytime there's hundred dollar donos you guys could actually punish me if i did win you just you can just donate a lot which you'd be like oh yeah you make money yeah but if you make me do like three four to kill in a row it's gonna yeah it's really worth the money to me probably not i'll do it speaking of policy we did have we did have one super chat yeah brian see uh mentioned something earlier in the stream um about metroid dread um actually doing well in a lot of polls and a lot of oh yeah that's right so um thank you for that that man i got the shot here we're gonna call that a podcast yeah that was episode 26 everybody yeah so be sure you go subscribe to our podcast channel because eventually all podcast content is going to be over there all you'll see on this channel is me advertising that hey a new episode of the podcast is happening on this channel um you guys are amazing thank you for tuning in and uh yeah we'll uh catch you next week peace peace out new video tomorrow from somebody Timothy says yeah