MX Linux is one of those distributions that I have used many times before, but I've never actually lived long term in. And I figured it was time that I corrected that mistake because every time I use MX Linux in a VM or whatever, I always come across really impressed like all their tools and all their stuff. It's just a really very cohesive experience. And I've always enjoyed it. So I wanted to see if that experience translated into using it long term. So that's what we're going to do today. This is the long term review of MX Linux. Now, just to let everybody know, I have been using other Linux distros. So if you've been watching the channel, you'll have seen me switch to men jar on all that stuff. So it hasn't been 100% full time. So I just want to kind of put that out there. I want to be dishonest about it. But for the vast majority of my time every day on Linux, I've been using MX. I've also installed it on my main computer on that computer behind me on my laptop. They're all running MX Linux. Now, the only distribution on that one in the laptop is MX Linux. So I have some really good experience. Now I've been using this now for very close to two months, almost full time. So let's go ahead and jump into the review. The first thing we should talk about is installation. Now I'm going to be putting up some b roll of me actually installing MX Linux in a VM. And you'll see that the installer is not like any installer you've seen before. And this is a completely custom installer. And it is fantastic for the most part. So the things I like about it the most is that it's really simple. It's really easy to use. It has all the instructions you'll ever need right there along the side. And it's extremely fast. I'll probably still be talking about the installation and installation will probably already be done. It took like two minutes. That's about all it took about the only thing I don't like about the installer itself is the partition manager they built in. It's not the most intuitive thing that you'll ever see. So if you have to do manual partitioning, the way they do it is just not all that great. It's not bad per se. It's just not intuitive. I would much prefer them just give you a link to something like G parted or something and then just let you go through and do the partitioning that way. It's it's not the best partition manager that I've ever seen. But outside of that, everything else is fantastic. I highly enjoy the fact that you can go through and save all your live desktop changes to the install so that you can go through and use those once you've installed it. So if you go through and that customized something or you download something in the live, it will actually translate through to the install. That's really cool. You can do all the normal stuff like encrypt, add network settings, all this kind of stuff right inside the installer. And it's really good, right? It's it's refreshing to see a distro go through and create something that is uniquely theirs and not just use calamaris. Now there's nothing wrong with calamaris, obviously, but the fact that MX has gone through and actually put the effort into making a very nice installer that installs the distro very, very fast is just refreshing. It's really nice. I highly enjoyed it. Now, once you get past the installer, the out of box experience is going to be a little bit different depending on what ISO you've chosen. So the one that you'll see in the B roll is MX Linux X FCE edition. And you'll have a panel along the side and it's basically X FCE. The differences between the X FCE version and the KDE version are simply that one is X FCE and one is KDE. They do look a little bit different, like with the KDE, when you don't have a bar along the side, it's at the bottom. But for the most part, the tools are exactly the same. The biggest difference you're going to see between the two ISOs is the MX Linux tweak tool is different with the X FCE version, the tweak tool is going to give you a lot more options. You'll see this in the B roll, where you'll have just a ton more stuff that you can do. You can change the panel position. You can change. You can reset the default panel. You can go through and change the theme of X FCE, change the icons, change the fonts, all this stuff with the plasma version of the MX Linux tweak tool, which you also get linked to in the welcome screen. It's not as full feature and that simply comes down to the fact that plasma, as far as I'm aware, doesn't actually allow developers to tie into that stuff, whereas the X FCE does. So that's really the biggest difference between the two ISOs. In terms of the rest of the out of box experience, the welcome application or the welcome screen or whatever is exactly the same between both ISOs. And you get links to videos and documentation of PDF documentation and several ways of gaining support and stuff against typical welcome screen stuff. There's nothing truly special here. The one thing I will say that I really like is the fact that by default, you actually have to click on something in order to get that welcome screen to come up every time you reboot. Every distro I've ever seen will always go through and have that checked automatically, like by default, you have to uncheck it in order to get the welcome screen to never show up again with MX. It's the opposite way around. And that's the way it really should be. In terms of pre installed software, this is where you're going to get up. It's a little mixed bag because you're going to get the default stuff that you normally get in a Linux distribution. You're going to get you know, media players and stuff like that just the normal stuff where you'll see the biggest amount of software is actually with MX tools. There are just a ton of MX tools that are pre installed. And they're all really good. And we'll I'll go through some of them here in a few minutes. But there are just probably 12 or 13 or 14 MX tools that are in your menu system.  Outside of that MX links is not uploaded. Let's draw by any means it has the default applications that you would expect they've made some choices. But there's nothing here that is like, Oh, well, they'll have six different MP3 players or, you know, four different ways of viewing photos. That's not the case. Usually they have one. And it's a good one. So don't expect to come in here and have like a distribution that just has hundreds and hundreds of pre installed package, they just have what you need. And then you're kind of left on your own as as you should be. So the next thing we should talk about and now we're going to actually move over into my actual install of MX Linux, which is right here, I'm going to go through and turn my camera off because I don't know if you guys have seen this in the in the video and I don't know how it translates. But the motion blur in OBS today is just horrendous. I got a new camera and getting it set up in MX links has not been easy. There's no sense in making people sick with the motion blur. So this is what my MX Linux looks like right now. And as you can see, I've chosen the plasma version. And it's where I've spent my time. And I've already talked about the plasma experience on MX Linux a little bit earlier in a previous video, when I talked about spending time in KD plasma. For the most part, this is a very standard KDE experience. I've had really no problems with it. There's nothing specific to KDE on MX Linux that I found disagreeable. I had more problems with actually moving into a like a floating window manager's desktop environment than anything else. And that has nothing to do with MX Linux. I will say that because MX Linux is based on Debian, I should have said that earlier, but it's based on a Debian stable because that's the case. A lot of your software is going to be a little bit out of date. And that is probably and that's something I'm going to talk about when I come to say comes to software availability. But just know that when it comes to KDE plasma, the stuff here is a little old and that kind of led me to miss out on some of the things that KDE has done over the last few months in order to make things better. So just keep that in mind if that's going to be a problem for you. It's not really an MX problem simply because they've gone through and based themselves on Debian. That's just the way Debian is. So that's the KDE experience. In terms of updating, there's two ways of doing it. You can do it through Discover or you can do it through the terminal. This isn't a Debian based distro so you can use app just like you would use in any other Debian based distro. There's not a lot here that I can say about updates. It's you didn't get a lot of updates, but you wouldn't expect that from a Debian based distro. You're going to get the vast majority of the updates will come through and they'll just be minor tweaks. You're never going to get something that is going to be system changing simply because that's not the way really Debian is meant to be used. And MX is the same way since it's based on it. So you're going to get some application updates. I think the most updates I've ever seen is about 10. So if you're coming from Arch where you get 10 sometimes a day, you're going to notice that you're just not going to see a lot of updates here. And that's just the nature of the beast. So that's updating. So when it comes to installing software itself, it's actually fairly easy, but there's multiple ways of doing it. You can obviously open up a terminal and do pseudo apt install, whatever you can do that, or you can use discover if you really want to use discover. I've never really had that great of experience with discover, but you can use it. Okay. And if you prefer something that looks like an app store, discover is going to be your option. But because this is MX Linux, we have a tool. So we have a package manager called MX package installer. It'll ask you for your password, which will inevitably not type correctly. And then you're going to get this. Now, this is my favorite way of installing applications on MX Linux. And the reason why is you're going to find stuff here that you probably won't find using app. And also, because this is a GUI installer, it allows you to go through and install from different places. So for example, you can install things from the stable repo, the MX test repo, Debbie and back ports and flat packs all from this one place. So for example, if let's just say you wanted to install the OBS flat pack, you could just search for OBS here. And you can install OBS studio, which is for whatever reason, just called studio in flat pack world. And then install it that way and hit then hit install, you can also upgrade packages right from here. So the reason why this is so good is just simply because it allows you to go through and search for things easier than you would if you were using apt. Now you can obviously do pseudo apt search or whatever it is. And it will do okay. But that's only going to pull from just the one repository that it has access to the main repositories or whatever repositories you have enabled. With this, you get access to everything. And it's really good. And like I said, I've experienced some situations where there were applications that I couldn't find through app that I found through here. Unfortunately, I didn't write those applications down. So I don't remember what they were. But I do remember it happening. My memory seems to be, you know, going out the door. But the point is, is that if you can't find something through apt come here, and you might be able to find it. And especially that'll be true. If what you're searching for isn't available at all on the Debian repose or the MX repose, and it's available through flat pack, you can install those through here instead of having to go through and do the whole messing around with flat hub. So that is installing software. Now, moving on to software availability. This is where we get into a little bit of a prickly situation. Because again, this is based on Debian. And because that's true, there are certain things that just aren't available on Debian that are also not available on MX Linux, because of the same reason. So for example, alacrity is not here. Now, if you don't know what alacrity is, it doesn't really matter. It's a terminal emulator, but it's not available in Debian. And because it's not available in Debian, it's also not available in MX Linux. So if we actually go through and actually search for alacrity here, we'll see that it's actually not here. We searched through all those things. Now I was able to get alacrity installed through building it, but it's not the same, you know, if you know what I mean, other than that, I was actually fairly impressed with software availability. There were some very weird programs that I use things like the Rofi power menu, things, things like Rofi emoji that weren't available. And there are several things that I thought weren't available that were available or named weirdly. So for example, I use uberzug for image preview and ranger. You can't do pseudo apt install uberzug because that's not the way it works.  And I didn't know that. So I thought that it wasn't available, but it is actually here. And I came across several of those situations where the package name was completely different than what I expected it to be because it's named something different on Arch. And for the longest time, I just thought that some of those packages weren't available, but they were, they just had weird names. So I highly recommend if you're going through and installing stuff in nmxlinux, you should go through and find out what the actual package name is instead of just assuming that it's the same as which you would find on other distros. That's where my assumption kind of led me astray. Other than that, like I said, I was very impressed with the software availability. I do admit that I used several flat packs. So for example, I'm using the flat pack of OBS. I'm using the flat pack of Kaden live. I'm using the flat pack of steam. I'm using the flat pack to do this because while steam is in Kaden live are both in the repos, I wanted to make sure I had the most stable version of them. I also couldn't find to do this in the repos, which is not surprising because it's not in hardly any repos, even on arch you have to get it from the AUR. I'm also using the flat pack of Bitwarden, which is also not in the Debian repositories or the MX repositories. So the great thing I suppose about flat pack is that you can go through and find applications that are in the repos so you still have access to them. In terms of flat pack itself, I've had truly mixed experiences with the OBS version of the flat pack is fine. But the problem is it doesn't use the standard OBS configuration file like in the locations that you normally see it. So normally what I do when I have multiple distros installed is that I take my master OBS configuration folder out of my .config and put it into the .config of the new distro. You can't do that when you use the flat pack because the flat pack application uses a configuration file that's located somewhere else. So you can't actually get those things to go through and use the file that you want to use. And that's the reason why I'm having so many problems with my cameras because I got all this camera stuff worked out on Manjaro yesterday. It was working fine. I get to MX Linux today and I have motion blur, I have fuzziness and that's simply because all of my settings that I had in the Manjaro version, I can't actually get here on MX Linux because of that. That's not an MX Linux problem, that's a flat pack problem. And like I said my experience with flat pack has just been kind of meh. You know what I mean? It's just kind of meh. I like it better than snaps, but that's not actually saying on it much because I despise snaps with a passion. So that software availability, like I said, for the most part I'm highly impressed with it. It's not as good as art, but what is?  But in terms of software availability, the fact that they have so many options available for you to choose from, you know, the Debian back porch, the MX test repo, the stable repo, all these places, you get all these options. Chances are for the vast majority of software, you're going to find it whether you have to use flat pack or something else. I don't think there was a single application I ended up with that I couldn't actually find. Well, I think one of a couple of the Rofi scripts that I use had to build, but I usually have to build those in Arch too. So expecting MX Linux to have those is kind of unfair. So the next section is gaming. And here you'll see me going back to a little bit of a B-roll here from gaming. And honestly, my gaming experience is going to be a little bit less because everybody knows I'm not much of a gamer, but I have been trying to game a little bit more. And the thing is, is my experience on Arch, like the the two Arch based issues that I've been using, Arco and Manjaro lately, the gaming experience on those is pretty bad. And the reason why is simply because proton doesn't work on those distros. For whatever reason I can't get the proton to work. I'm assuming it's because I had the distro install steam and the distro installer didn't install certain dependencies or something. It doesn't matter. It's not a big deal. It just means I can't game anything on anything that uses proton on either those two distros. On MX Linux, I didn't have that problem at all. So I've found that anything that I use proton for worked fine. Assuming that it worked on Linux at all. I mean you can't do, you can't play a game that won't play no matter what distro it is if it's not available for Linux. For most games, things like Civilization, Cities, Skylines, stuff like that, it played flawlessly. I don't have a high resolution monitor or high frame rate monitor. So I can't tell you though that it's an amazing experience. You get 200 frames per second. I don't know any of that. It played well to my eyes. And as long as something's 30 frames per second, I'm perfectly happy. But I know that I'm in the minority there. Most people want 60 frames per second and stuff like that. So your mileage as usual when it comes to gaming will vary depending on your hardware and all that stuff. But for the most part, gaming was a good enough experience. It allowed me to play several games that I wasn't able to play on Arch. And that's good. I did try Lutris to try to get Hearthstone installed. That did not work. And that is because it bugged out not being able to find certain fonts in the repositories. So if you're going to go through and use Lutris, you'll need to make sure that you can find the dependencies that you need for Lutris to actually function. Wine seemed to work just fine and get installed just fine. It was always just hung up on finding certain fonts. So the next thing I want to talk about are the MX Linux tools. So if you go to this category here, the MX Linux tools, you'll see that there are just a ton of different tools here that are for MX Linux. Now I'm not going to go through all these because we'd be here all day, but there are several that I want to point out. So the first one is the repo manager. The repo manager allows you to choose different mirrors. It allows you to choose different repos. And it allows you to go through and have it select the fastest mirror for you. So this is actually a really cool tool when it works. So if you want to go through and add the non free bullseye repository, you can go through if you want to add the the backports bullseye non free repositories, you can go through and do that. And that's going to give you access to many more packages than what you'd get with the default repositories. You can also go through and add the Ubuntu repositories if you want to go through and do that. Now the reason why I say when it works, if you go through and actually select these, sometimes you'll get errors saying something along the lines this repository is not doesn't have something or the other and it doesn't work. Your your update will just fail. I came across that multiple times and actually ended going through and just hitting this restore original app sources button and those errors went away. So some of the repos here don't seem to work all the time. And that's not a great thing. So let me see if I can actually get that error to come up. I'm going to apply this we're going to do okay and then we're going to open up a terminal and we'll zoom in here sudo apt update. Yeah I seem to work just fine that time with those those certain repositories. But the point is I've noticed it sometimes where okay so after going through and enabling the Ubuntu repositories this was the error that I was talking about. It says does not have a release file so those the non free ones here work these two don't seem to work at all. So they go through and you just get this release file here. Now I'm assuming that there's a way to fix this. I didn't actually go through and investigate actually trying to you know fix it. But the point is is that it might be hit or miss for you. The fact that the tool exists is really cool. So that is the repo manager and that will give you access to more software if you can't find it in the standard repositories. The next one I want to talk about is mx cleanup. Mx cleanup is similar to bleach bit but easier and not as dangerous. So it'll allow you to go through and clear your app cache a clear clean folders delete your logs empty the trash and the coolest thing about it is that you can go through and schedule it. We're going to talk about cron jobs here in a few minutes when I talk about the things that I don't like but going through and having this run weekly or monthly or whatever will keep a lot of the craft off your system and I really really like that it's something that I wish was on other distros and there are obviously ways you can do this on other distros but this is the cleanest way I've ever seen of doing it. So that's the mx cleanup. So I only have two more that I want to show you the next one is mx tweak and I'm just going to show you this because you can go through and kind of see the differences between this and the xfce version that I showed you earlier. There's not as much here as there is with the xfce version so the tweak tool is not as powerful in plasma as it is in the xfce version. So if that matters to you choose the xfce version the last one that I wanted to show you was the mx snapshot tool. Now I'm not going to go through and actually go through and show you the process of this because I have a video on it but this is my favorite tool that exists. It allows you to go through and create an ISO of your complete system and then you can it saves that on your your disk and then you can burn it to a USB key and make make it take it to another computer and install it over there and you have all access everything like right under your music and everything. As you can see if you have steam installed you get coming to problem which I'll talk about here in a second but for the most part this is a fantastic tool and I want it everywhere especially for someone who wants to use the same setup on multiple computers going through and creating an ISO of your perfect setup and moving it to other computers and then having a backup of that setup is just awesome. Now the one thing I wish this had is on this next screen where it has the availability to go through and exclude certain things I wish it would allow you to go through and exclude the default steam game location file. Now I know you can go through and add that through a text file and it's fairly easy enough but I would really like it just be a checkbox here. Don't let my steam games come through I don't need those things backed up on the ISO. That would save me from having a 70 gigabyte ISO by the way because that thing would take forever to burn to a disk if you even have a USB key that big. Being able to exclude the steam directory would be fantastic and it's only really the only thing that would say we can make this better. So those are the tools. So we only have a few more things to talk about but let's talk about a couple of the things that I didn't care for. So the first and the biggest thing is going to be the fact that this is not a system D distro. Now for the most part it didn't bother me at all. Like for the most part I did not interact with the init system at all. I'm used to system D but for the most part not having it didn't make me sad. There were however some situations where I missed it. So for example there are certain rofi scripts that I use some to shut down the computer stuff like that that rely on system D tools in order to work and those don't work on this thing because it doesn't use system D uses sysvnit which is a different init system altogether and that just meant that there were certain tools that just wouldn't work that would normally have working. So for example I had to do cron jobs in a completely different way. Normally I would just install crony and then set up a cron tab and go on my way. That doesn't work here because that relies on system D. Now there is a way to get it working with sysvnit. You can go through and do that if you want to. I didn't. I just went through and used the MX Linux tool that is called job scheduler and basically what job scheduler does is performs the job of going through and creating cron tasks cron jobs and it's fine. I'm not used to using a GUI to set cron jobs but you can do it. It's fairly easy and that's the way I went through and did instead of trying to figure out how to get crony to work. I just did it this way. Really that's the bottom line is that pretty much any way anything that you need system D to do you can do here. You just kind of have to work around the stuff. You know what I mean? And it's an okay experience. Now if you want to go through and use system D, there is an option to boot into a system D version of MX Linux. I did that a couple times. The experience is fine but you can tell the MX Linux developers want you to stick with the Sysvnit version and it just doesn't feel like a first class citizen. It works fine. It's just the Sysvnit version works better. So if you're going to use this just know going in that it doesn't have system D by default. It works fine without it but you're just going to every once in a while experience some hiccups. The other thing that I didn't like and really this is just minor is that for whatever reason the mirrors were slow. So even when you go through and hit that button that I showed you earlier find fastest mirrors to me near me for whatever reason even after I've done that the mirrors are just slow. Now I don't know if that's a me problem. Maybe it's just something that my network doesn't like particular about this system. I don't know. I will say that I've noticed it on all three of the computers that have MX Linux installed. The mirrors just seem slow. Now they're not horrendously slow or anything.  If that makes sense. So those were really the only two things that I had a negative experience on you. I can't even really say that the system D thing was a negative experience. It's just that I had to find alternative ways of doing some things. The slow mirrors thing is just something I kind of learned to live with. It's not as slow as say something like the open Suza stuff like the open Suza has notoriously slow mirrors when you're not near open Suza's headquarters. It's not that slow. It was just a little slow. Okay. So three more sections for this talking about stability. This is Debbie and stable. It works really well in terms of stability. I never had any crashes. None of that stuff. I did have K-Wing crash on this machine several times. But that's a KDE plasma problem. I'm almost positive and I'm 100% sure. And I've been told that they fixed the K-Wing problems on newer versions of plasma. So that's another kind of disadvantage of using something that's older is that some of the fixes you're not going to get. So just know if you're going to use the KDE plasma version, you're going to probably see K-Wing, which is the compositor and the window manager. You'll see that crash from time to time. Except not a big deal. But it's definitely something you should know. Outside of that, stability was fine. Now community support is where this really shines. They have forums. And the thing is, is that I've actually talked to the MX Linux developers and they have very friendly people. And one of the great things about them is if you find a package that they don't have in their repositories, a lot of times they'll actually try hard enough to go through and package that for you. Now it's not 100%. I'm sure that they're very busy people. So don't expect it to be immediate. But I've seen multiple places where they've gone through and said that they will do that kind of stuff. The community itself has been very welcoming. I've had no situations where I've had to go through and had somebody say read that thing manual. They've just helped me. And it's been very good. So that is my review of MX Linux. I probably could go on for probably a few more hours talking about how much I really enjoy this distribution. It is really, really good. Honestly, if by default it was system D, this distro would be my new favorites. Like it'd be the one that I would use for sure everywhere. Daily driver, I would abandon Arco for this distribution. And the biggest reason for that is because it has so many really cool tools. I only showed you a few of them, but there are several of these tools that have just gone through and really transformed the way I use the distro. And a lot of those are necessities because like the job schedule, schedule or tool is something that there is there because you actually have to have it because the other ways of scheduling crown jobs usually aren't available to you because most of the crown demons or whatever you call them are written for system D. I'm sure there are Sysvian knit options out there, but for the most part the vast majority of the the crown job stuff is going to be written for system D. So some of the tools are absolute necessities, but I really do like the rest of the tools and that is what has made it really good. And I've enjoyed using a Debian based distro for a change. Like I've been using Arch or an Arch based distro full time for almost three years and it has been nice to have a really good experience on a Debian based distro. It's kind of rare for me. Like I used Debian and it was fine, but it just felt lacking to me. This is the first time I've used a Debian based distro and haven't immediately missed the AUR. Like because the software ability is so good here. I didn't remember, there was only a couple of times where I could actually say that, you know, I wish I had AUR. So one thing that I didn't cover that I should have covered a little bit more is versioning. So you will, just like with every Debian based distro, you're going to find situations where the stuff that you have on your system is too old for certain things. So for example, if you need, you're running a Python script, if you don't have the certain version of Python that that script is looking for, you're probably going to run into problems. And because things are older on Debian based distros, sometimes you won't have the particular versions of stuff that you're going to need. I ran into that a couple of times, like for example, my weather script, which is a Python script, wouldn't work. There's a Perl script that I used, that wouldn't work because it was looking for a different version. That's just the kind of stuff that you have to deal with when you're using Debian. So we're using a Debian based distro, I should say. Other than that stuff, MX Linux has been just a treat to use. Now the question I always ask myself after I've done this is am I going to continue to use it? And the answer to that question, for the first time ever is yes. MX Linux is going to stay on that one, for sure. Now the laptop is probably going to change to whatever I review next, simply because then I can have those the distros on multiple computers. But that one there right behind me is going to stay on MX Linux. And I want to see how well this thing upgrades through the versions. So for example, when the next version of MX Linux comes out, I would love to be able to go through and say I upgraded from one version to the next, and I can kind of make a video on how the process of that was, because I'll take a first look view of that next version, and I'll have a little bit more experience with it then. So the answer to that, the question is yes, I'm going to stick with MX at least on one computer. So that is it for this video. If you have questions about MX Linux, you can leave those questions in the comment section below. You can follow me on Twitter, at Linuxcast. I want to take a moment again to apologize for the motion blur, holy hell. I don't know how to fix that. 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So now I'll I'll go into our agenda. So the first item on reorg is always election of the city committee. So I find it's Somebody would like to make a motion to appoint all everyone here as the new city committee for 2023 that would that's usually how we start What does it mean? Okay, so Yeah, for anybody who's who's not really familiar with the process the the way parties organized in Vermont every off-year so in odd years we Meet on the local level here in Winooski or and throughout the state in September To appoint a committee and it's called reorg because we have to basically start from scratch So we're you know, we call a caucus and and appoint ourselves as the committee and then what we're gonna do tonight In addition to that is appoint some officers for our committee. It's Deanna and then appoint Members to represent us on the county committee Which then the county committees meet in October and they'll appoint to a state committee and that's sort of the overarching body that Runs the party and the state committee will meet in a convention in November and appoint and then a Coordinating committee, which is slightly smaller body that meets monthly and sometimes more than that to Run the day-to-day business. So there the coordinating committee is the one who Hires our few staff. We have an executive director and actually an organizing Person right now where which is nice We're not always able to afford quite as many staff as some of the other parties. So having two staff is pretty neat So yeah, so getting back to just what we're gonna do tonight. We're gonna basically appoint ourselves as the committee and then appoint officers and appoint members to that county committee and I've got some discussion items here, too And we can decide how much we want to get into that stuff today but Really pleased that there's so many people here I mean For us, it's not usually a huge commitment I think that only a couple of times, you know, we Would meet if we want to endorse candidates in the March elections, for example in municipal elections Sometimes we'll meet to endorse candidates for the November elections So we could frequently in Vermont people will seek multiple parties nominations so they'll They'll run in the Democratic Primary sorry, but also want our endorsement as progressive. So that's what Taylor did for example And that's how how we've sort of in the last 10 20 10 years dealt with the whole idea of being spoilers By running in the Democratic primary So we're not spoiling anything because then you get to the November election and it's just you know a Republican versus well Frequently in Winooski. Honestly, it's just whoever won the Democratic primary So the the city committee is essentially the ones who are organizing for progressives just here in Winooski So we as Robert was saying we don't meet super regularly now But if we get a larger committed group of folks who are coming together and are really engaged around issues or specific candidates We can meet more often, but truly this is the deciding body that gets to say How often we want to meet and what our priorities are especially when it comes to nominating candidates Come for town meeting day or for the election in November Yeah, so we'll get to a point for people to the county committee, so it's up to you Is that something that you want to do? and the county committee honestly frequently Meets even less than than we do. It's not a not super busy similarly They they will have to meet if they're going to endorse candidates on that level like state Senate candidates or occasionally State's attorney or things like that that are elected at the county level Sorry What else you know, but it also similar to this body it depends how interested people are in meeting more and and doing more organizing and Seeing so many people around the table. I'm hoping that that this year might be a start of like some good organizing, but You know, it's always entirely up to us. It's a as a committee and then the county committee and so and Typically when you're on the city committee, then you're able to report back to the county committee What's happening on the city level or if you're wanting to be a part of the state committee? Same thing goes is really Being a part of this committee is I would say the most integral part to being able to be a part of the county or state committees as well Being a member of all of those committees And Yes, I will really push on the on the fact that there are not a lot of meetings involved But the meetings that are there are truly meaningful and if if you do then get to the state committee that can be a bit more of a responsibility they need quarterly and Point the coordinating committee and things like that so that can be a bit bigger Responsibility, but it's always about what individuals can and want to do. I mean people's party, so we recognize Believe me, I know I have attended I for a long time of tendency to over promise myself So I understand trying not to you know, I've been trying to do that more and more And I respect that a lot It's it's hard, but um any other questions or So I guess just to clarify David, are you interested in being nominated for the city committee to start? How about we say no, I'm sorry. No, that's okay. How about we say no on that now? Just I'm obsessed with the county committee As long as I definitely like to say, you know, oh, please No, no, no, no, no, I just want to clarify I Think that if you wanted to be on the county committee, I mean you'd want to you'd need to be on the city committee, too Sorry, I might have No, it's yeah, I probably misspoke Yeah, I I understand that's the way I was phrasing that was it didn't make a whole lot of sense Yeah, so we won't be after you to run for office in March No, absolutely and and again like any time, you know, if you feel like you're being asked too much always But yeah, yeah, we'd want you to be on the city committee first.  Sorry. I just forget that I Was wondering if to kind of set this up for people who might not know in Winooski the Progressive Party is Pretty active because we have a number of people who are in office that are progressives So I wondered if we might want to just summarize that Well, actually Great, so yeah, so I'm former state representative and I don't quite know I answer that question Yeah, no, no, no, that's it. That's it.  I mean people are just very excited about progressive issues and and so it's just a really great place to live and then it's this We are like fairly active and and and even though our city council is non-partisan There's a lot of people on the city council who have progressive issues and same or leanings and affiliations with the progressive party and and We've had ebbs and flows on the school board as well And so it's a nice nice mix. We you know clearly have our lovely representative who's progressive and so Yeah, so I'm not quite sure I'm sure that there's better Thanks as well But in terms of like building up of and what our potentials is that we we do have just a high potential in Manuski to have more engagement and more outreach and more people who are interested in being part of our party and so it's In all the door knocking that I've done people are just always very excited about progressive issues and it's a matter of Consistent organizing that we haven't that we have a lot of opportunity to that we could step into Yeah, I think you pretty much it you know we've um, you know and Well, let's see Gene ran as a progressive way back in 2004 That was probably the first candidate to run with the progressive label in Manuski And that was really hard back then and it's still pretty not not always easy It's the city sure has changed a lot since 2004 though and then I moved here in 2009 and our our committee consisted of me and the Robinsons Colin and Sarah Robinson and One other verse. Oh Israel Smith and that was it But we then we managed to get myself on the school board, which Was unexpected and no, I haven't been on the school board that long I was only I only served one term and then I lost reelection unfortunately, but and Sarah was on the council though for several years But that since then then we got you were first elected in 2014 or 20 Yeah, you and I ran together in 2014 and you nailed it I did not But did pretty well and then in 2016 I ran again But up and for up until that time when Uski was a very democratic It's still a very democratic city. So it's not like a Republican stronghold instead. It's sort of like a Middle of the road kind of stronghold for a long time has a strong labor history the mills and things like that I would say a relatively 50-50 split if we look at representation across the elected leadership in the city It's pretty much down the middle of Democrat and progressive So left leaning across the board and definitely I also look to our charter changes which we're both We think of all resident voting which happened two years ago And then this past year with just cause eviction really thinking of progressive values that we have that are in our Foundation and our pillars of what we truly believe in so to see them pass so overwhelmingly and when you ski I think we also know that there are a lot of progressive ideals that are held here Yeah, and it is important as to notice as Deanna said that our council and school board are Non-partisan so people don't actually run with labels so it can be a little Bit complicated. I mean, it's not necessarily as straightforward. It's like the Burlington City Council You can say oh, that's a progressive. That's a Democrat, you know Some people just a shoe labels completely and some people own it so But we have pretty progressive overall I would say Yeah The thing I was thinking about was actually justices of the peace because I'm one of I'm one of those And I know we have a pretty good complement of progressives who are serving as justice to the peace This is awesome because the city needs justices of the peace in order to operate and so and so do Vermonters Who want to get married or whatever? So anyway, I just Yeah, so it's great To encourage people Yeah, so we've been electing progressive justice of peace since 2010 I would say and I think currently four of the we have 15 total are progressives and and That's important not just for marrying people which is great, but It they serve as the board of civil authority which oversees elections. So if things come up along those lines then That's good. Good to have that part And it's it's interesting when you see it's really interesting because there aren't Any republicans on there and there never have been that I know of it's really very much this split between Sort of progressives and the democrats in the last ten years 14 more but however long it's been I don't know since I came and upset the apple cart. No Or okay, they're just not even trying to organize last year Via from porch forum, but it didn't materialize in tiny candidates running Yeah, I'm not sure if they even have a local committee Do we have other questions or Well, you're a JP so you can talk you can probably talk about how it's been We've had several elections now with all resident voting and of course with all resident voting They only vote on local elections and not the national elections because yeah Jess Wanooski you can vote for the school board You can vote for the justices of the peace if you live here in Wanooski, which seems fair to me and yeah The budgets are big exactly But It makes it slightly more complicated at the polls because there's separate ballots one with the national offices and one without But we've had I think really good support staff from Wanooski in terms of having interpreters Signs we have a Hostess at the door or a host at the door who in you know when someone comes in That is a non-resident to help them through the process or to even register them to vote that day. So But that seems it seems to be going smoothly I think it was a really good process that got us there, too. It was it was deliberative and Tried to involve as many people as possible in the discussion that was a good question I mean that makes me think of the just cause eviction charter change that was passed last March So that's great, but that's kind of stuck in the legislature for the moment Absolutely, yes, and part of the problem with that is is there was a technical issue on the on the City level when that was passed in when some Meetings were warned So it's gonna show up on the ballot again. I believe in March yeah for Validation vote which is simply just a revote on the same exact issue But in conversations with the Secretary of State The Charter change still lies as one that we can move forward as a legislature We don't need the validation vote to move forward But I think what we're seeing at the legislative level and has come up as an issue I Would say well it came up in my first term when we were talking about all resident voting that when charter changes are passed They might be passed by the municipality, but they still have to be passed by the legislature afterwards And so in that the legislature can change the language of charter changes Which I think is exactly what we're gonna see in the next legislative session is a more uniform policy that would be implemented for Burlington, when you ski in Essex, which were the three municipalities to pass it in the last election I don't know what that language will exactly look like I think it will likely be similar to the one that was passed for Burlington last year and was eventually Vetoed and the veto was not overridden But that is still to be told as we see what happens in the government operations committees In the coming session, but definitely encourage folks to follow along and of course advocate for The passage of just cause eviction for when you ski That we are only one of a handful of states that has that that most states as a city or municipality They can change what they want to and need to to to govern their municipality And don't need the legislature to approve things And so like for instance when you ski used to have in a charter change not allow guns to be shot in city limits that was in our charter and because of a different charter change and went through the legislature, it's that was removed from our city charter and And so That there's a little push for changing that Legal relationship between the municipalities and the state so that we can as a municipality Make decisions that we that are right for us without going through that additional body So just putting that out as a little PSA So here for that change. Yeah, thanks specifically what they were talking about was the I'm remembering correctly a lot that would allow anything that it already passed another municipality Could go through without having to go through the right. Is that yeah, yeah, well It is one option moving forward. I think that's kind of the in-between of Less oversight from the state, but of course, I'm gonna forget their names I know it's Homer's rule and then it's some other man's names rule that as to Whether it is going through the legislature to be approved or whether it is just the city that gets to determine its own Charter and what is happening within its own limits? And so I know the Vermont League of Cities and Towns has been a strong advocate for that change Especially as it hinders and we've seen many charter changes that either just don't come up again And are not considered again by the legislature or it only Goes through one time and then as vetoed and then does not come to fruition So the argument being that a charter change should be able to pass if that is what the voters are voting for Unless it is unconstitutional, and then we have those checks and balances already in place with the court system This is really good discussion. This is what happens when you have a lot of people show up. Yeah, I'm really glad to have you anything else or To the business part Oh Well, we only have this room for an hour or two, so So the first thing The way I want to do this city committee if we want if somebody We're comfortable making a motion to appoint everybody here as the city committee Great and could I get a second second? All right? I should probably make a note of this Move by Aurora seconded by Taylor and Sometimes I go really quickly through these Roberts rules type things So if anybody's confused or to concern, please stop me and slow me down, but Any other discussion on that? So all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Great, so we've appointed us As the committee now also had Erica bronze had requested to be added to the committee But she couldn't be here because she's going to see onnie de franco, and I'm really jealous Anyone else that wasn't in attendance today that was hoping to be appointed we had one other person Who emailed me who I don't know. Well, their name is Nick Brown now. Does anybody know you know Nick? Yeah, so yeah, so we exchanged some emails and It's gonna try to get on zoom, but then said they couldn't couldn't make it works too little reception So he sent a little bit about himself or themselves. I'm not sure Oh Yeah, I thought I saw the Yeah, so Nick sent a little blurb I could read oh great and okay Hi, my name is Nick and I'm interested in serving on the city of Wanooski's progressive party committee Last year I helped organize a canvassing effort for just cause eviction in Wanooski where we won approval with 70% voting Yes on JCE I'm running to be a progressive caucus committee member because I believe the progressive party and endorsed elected officials can bring more Municipal policy changes towards housing issues such as just cause eviction to the ballot And and I did go back and check old emails and Nick was on some of those emails around just cause eviction so I can at least confirm that On this city committee, I think just city I probably should have clarified more but Yeah, I moved to add Erica and Nick to the city committee Seconded by Bridget Great any further discussion on that All those in favor of please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay Great, so we now have a city committee Pretty solid number 79 I think that's pretty far up there I don't think we've ever gone higher than that because if we got to 10 we'd get more County committee members So I think this is pretty much near the top Yeah, I was just thinking it or well, but we just changed the bylaws So it'll be I'm not sure how to work out. It'll be based on How we vote Exciting still 10 would be a great great goal 10 is a great goal Yeah It is very complicated, but I guess it'll be more proportional theoretically The bylaws as they currently exist in how we're running this reorg Up to 10 members on a city or town committee We can appoint four members to the county committee and ten or more. It's a so I think They were thinking to make that a bit more proportional because Burlington gets eight and you know And that's it and even though they have a city committee that's usually dozens of people But that'll be in place for next reorg. So we don't need to worry about that for a couple years Our next business item it would be to appoint officers for this committee So we need to appoint a chair a vice chair a secretary and a treasurer and on this level Those have almost no duties. I mean the chair runs the meetings Unless delegated to I Chared for many years last couple years ago. We switched it up and have a Taylor chair, but Taylor's very busy And we don't have any money on the city level so the treasurer doesn't really Secretary we'd like to have take notes when we can but I don't remember who the secretary was last time. So that's when taking some notes Oh, I do You should take some notes, too So I would look for Nominations for chair any other nominations for chair. Oh, right Sorry, so your place chair. Okay. I got a ticket. Are you gonna take notes or Any other nominee already asked that. Sorry. Um, so Then all those in favor of me is chair. Hi. Hi Any opposed? Nope. Okay Yay, Robert I've been trying to move out of chair rolls Things but that's okay.  I nominate Taylor small to be vice chair Any other nominations for vice chair? Yes, I can great seen none all those in favor of Taylor as vice chair. I Any opposed? Go around Nominations for secretary any other nominations for secretary. All those in favor of me say aye. Hi. Any opposed? That actually makes this paperwork really easy because I need signatures from chair and secretary Roars my spouse Okay, and a treasurer remember there are no assigned duties to be a treasurer I second Any other nominations all those in favor of Chloe for treasurer, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? So we have our office already at the table together. That's great. So then our Delegates to the county committee so we can point up to four people to be delegates to the committee I'm just gonna throw out who's one Yes, other folks who want to be on the county committee I can yeah, I'll go on to the county committee to if Bridget's going I'm going And you don't have to be on the county committee So you can be at the county level But then you don't need to be at the county level to them be in that the coordinating committee which is like Kind of the board that supports and supervises the staff Just to be clear the state committee and the state coordinating committee or not the same thing, right? Yeah, so we appoint members of the county committee the county committee committee appoints members of the state committee and then the state committee Coordinating committee, which is a smaller body And they mean monthly and we're not appointing to the state committee right now. No because the county committee And you can still come to county committee meetings and participate you just couldn't post Moving to appoint the county committee David Wilcox Taylor small Bridget irons and Robert Malar any further discussion Is pretty much our business items I had included some discussion items Which the first one was town meeting day 2024 and also and this is where I'll just point out that we do have CCTV here So if there are things that you don't want broadcast on CCTV, I wouldn't suggest you bring them up right now But you know, like somebody who's thinking about it that doesn't want it So for just for town meeting day the mayor is up and to counsel seats are up We do not know who if anyone's going to be Run for any of their current seats So there's that we also have to school board three school board members up So those are probably our biggest items for our candidates for The municipality so I think really what we want to do is start thinking about One how do we support any folks that are running for those and two if there anyone that we know Who might be interested in running for any of those seats So we can kind of begin those discussions and think about how we can Well if any of them run and want the progressive nomination endorsement because They're technically as we went through nonpartisan seats, but That gets access or that can help with access to some of the state level like mailing lists and other resources, so That's where even at this level where they are Nonpartisan it can be important to get those sponsorships Re-election Okay, the two city councillors up for election is myself so we're heard and Thomas Renner I Spent a lot of information And then for our school board. Yes, so school board. We had two Resignations, so we filled some vacancies. So there are actually three of the five seats will be up and that is Stephen Berbeco is just up normally at the end of his term and then the Nicole mace and Isaiah Donaldson were appointed and we'll have to run I just ran in March, so I'm not up Appointed are they running for full terms or partial terms? I say is running for a full and Nicole will be running for the remainder of a three-year term so two more years. Yeah, it's kind of a mess right now And do you know if they're both running? I? Guess I can't say for sure for Isaiah, but he seems pretty into it and so Start let's start thinking about that now. Oh, and you mentioned With the endorsement you you know get comes essentially party resources one of those will hopefully be a updated database in the next few months we're moving from Civvy which is Freeware and what we've used for the last 25 years to Nation Builder Which is supposed to supposed to be quite a lot better with a lot more Bells and whistles, so that could be really helpful to anybody have anything else I want to say on that Yeah, definitely things to think about with that And that's that's where we might want to meet more and maybe virtually to make it easier for people and brainstorming down the line The other discussion thing I had on here is organizing and when you skate So, you know do we want to have a good opportunity with so many of us here to meet more try to you Know we talk up frequently. We've tried to do little events here and there to try to get more interest But you know that comes down to the capacity But I wanted to open that up as a discussion folks of ideas gonna say with the Level of we have an interest we have a very interesting town meeting day So it might be good to think about maybe December and January or January if there's time Just thinking of like, I don't know Taylor if you're thinking about any pre pre session event, but that might be If you have the capacity to do a pre session event then that could be a draw for people to come and Then in that like is there interest about the running for and during March? or Yeah, just something kind of around that might be might be nice Event I just I just had a question does when you ski have in-person town meetings? Because Burlington does not they just vote on There is a meeting at the school the night before but it's not it's not where we actually vote on things Well, I guess technically we vote on a couple of small things, but it's like moderator Which is also something as we think about like we could we haven't had a presence there but that also could be something that we could think about because there's There's still like there are people that come and really go through the budget and ask a lot of questions And so like that could be something that we could think about the day before and that's a longer term That's organizing for not just this March, but for the next cycle, which I mean, it'll you know, we'll be right here. So Yeah, just a potential idea See that's the sort of thing that you would call CCTV and say could you record that? Usually at the dinner usually do a dinner It's funny Yeah, because I bet we would watch that oh, yeah, like going through the budget and understanding what it is People usually show up in person. I can tell you that I think we had like five Doesn't sound like a lot, but it's so it's like yeah, I don't think it quite bounced back from It was pretty well attended Okay, so there's it's possible that CC TV can broadcast that live So you might want to call someone at the studio just explore about that Robert is the goal to raise awareness of the progressive party are we looking for candidates? Are we looking for support for people? I mean what what's because if if any of those are the goals you probably want to go before the vote, you know Yeah, I mean at all it all the idea Beats up kind of the same as the yeah, you know getting people involved interested and farming candidates and Going to that would not be to persuade anybody with them with how many take the very next day probably, but yeah But thinking about if there's Event slash progressive meeting that's happening prior to an early November say November 4th If that's available on people's calendars, and we want to start looking at that Find an opportunity to get together where it is a meeting of folks with like-minded views or That folks are being able to come together and discuss issues that are directly impacting them I think that's the best way to encourage folks to run for office To be able to identify clearly like this issue that you're highlighting is shared by others And you have a voice that you can share within local government because We don't know how many of those seats are going to be open or not And the council are gonna you know start crafting their budgets at the end of November through December even end into January and always always looking for citizen input as much as possible like and you know, that's something where Well, that's in particular you can try to let you know if we're trying to get some Pressure on different things like last time you're pushing pretty hard to try to keep the equity director Things like that and library funding that's gonna be big this year, too It's an important resource for community so yeah You've gotten a lot of emails about it. Yeah I have a question Events are good But I was wondering if the progressive party is that if they've ever thought about putting something out like a newsletter or a user group or something to kind of get people aware of Issues ideas updates at the various levels. Yeah Yeah, I mean We have whatever email us we have at the state level Oh wait, we have front porch forum I'm a big fan of front porch forum used to work there Yeah getting stuff out on there. Yeah, I think it's about like capacity so like, you know needing to have somebody who like that's Their focus and is it once a quarter once a month and then like what's it around? So I would think in order to like be sustainable. We would need to have somebody who Could take that on and own that and then I think if that if there is someone amongst us who could take that on and Was interested in working with Taylor like having during the legislative session like just a great pull and draw around Like what is you know day-to-day legislature like all the different pieces like that that could be a great build for the whole year But it is needing someone who says yep I can do that on whatever frequency and own it and do it and And that like that's that's historically been a challenge of like who can can maintain something like that And I would definitely encourage folks to sign up for the state mailing list because since we've now been able to fund legislative Support person it means that we're able to put out weekly emails from legislators Especially in the house updating about the exact issues that we're working on or the bills that are coming up And honestly we saw significant engagement this past year from the Progressive Party overall Especially when we think about the elections bill that was considered in the House and Senate and is honestly likely to be considered again this next year and so The fight isn't isn't over on that and making sure that we keep our elections fair and and equal How would I sign up for the state mailing list? Okay Just gonna say I think also there's a lot of engagement when There are particular issue based campaigns that really impact people's lives locally I think a lot of people got really activated with just cause of fiction and I wonder if there are ways to I remember Aurora you shared updates about the budget through the lists are for the city committee And I wish I had done more to sort of like write on FPF why that's important to me personally So I think that those types of updates You know are really impactful when people talk about Something that's important to them that impacts their life and other people's lives Here in when you ski too in addition to the you know longer more in-depth updates about specific legislation Which is also important But I think in terms of getting people activated those stories and individual advocating for issues is really critical too So maybe it can also be a matter of us staying up to date about what's happening and trying to individually Share you know action alerts that aren't like copy-paste, but our personal opinions on FPF and other places Which is a really wide audience it's a really wide audience wider than a listserv or a local lists I mean yeah party listserv I totally agree with that and I love the idea of Something that's small and one person one person speaking instead of here's a legislative update with all this big chunk Stuff to read through So what I'm wondering is if a bunch of people within the Progressive Party Would take the occasional issue and post about it that might be actually more effective than having one person Who's cranking out the monthly thing? Yeah, so something comes up I mean I'm curious like if there are specific things in city council that you expect coming up around school board I mean JC is passed and there might need to be some pressure on the you know Legislature, but if there are other Specific issue-based things that either like this group wants to focus on or where where might already be coming up because that seems like a way that You know an entry point for other people It's rather than saying like do you want to come to this progressive party organizing discussion Like do you want to come to a discussion about like how to prevent people from getting affected by the landlords for no cause that's kind of a more compelling ask often for people who don't know what the progressive party is or Aren't usually involved in organizing I think we're coming up on the end of the hour I reserve, but I will want to the last thing I wanted to say on the listserv is it's not intended just like for me to send warnings to You have things, you know issues or you know, and I'll get you added to the local listserv to Also, I should send like a little update out on there. Just let people know who's on there at this point It's only like 10 or 12 people But then if you have ideas for things that we should post up from which forum or events or anything It's supposed to be a discussion and sometimes it ends up in your spam folder. So be Keep an eye out for that. I don't know why it does that. That would be a good place to start Anything else? I would entertain a motion to adjourn so moved Could I get a second? All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. We're adjourned


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