Coming up on DTNS, Mozilla helps you pick tech gifts that aren't creepy. Twitter posits its push to inactivate old accounts due to dead people, and cows in Russia make better milk when they wear VR headsets. This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, November 27th, 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. With 12 inches of snow in Salt Lake City, I'm Scott Johnson. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. We were just talking about languages and dialects and Mandarin and pumpkin spice coffee and spoilers. And that's all on Good Day Internet.  Then you got to get Good Day Internet, patreon.com, slash DTNS. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. Garter estimates that smartphone sales worldwide fell 0.4% on the year last quarter, which is the third consecutive quarter of decline, although the smallest decline of the three. Samsung raised its leading market share to 20.4%, as did number two Huawei, but 17%. Apple's number three market share declined to 10.5%. And Xiaomi dropped slightly to 8.3%. Number five Oppo rose slightly to 8%. Well, Valve is in the news again. Valve customizable steam controller is on sale for $5 plus around that much in shipping. So you're going to pay for shipping about as much as you are for the device. Depending on where you live, the sale is clearing out the inventory. And Valve has confirmed that these are the last steam controllers that we've made. The big question is, will they make a sequel or is this it? HP Inc, that's not HP Enterprise. HP Inc is the one that sells PCs and printers, announced Q3 revenue rose 0.1%, just ending six quarters of quarterly decline. Sales of PCs kind of built that up. Sales of PCs rose 4% on the year, beating expectations. However, revenue from printers fell 6%. Xerox is attempting to purchase HP Inc, if you haven't heard, announcing a plan to now engage shareholders directly, trying to put some pressure on the HP board to sell. HP projects Q1 2020 earnings per share to be between 53 and 56 cents a share. Apple has changed its maps to show Crimea as part of Russia when viewing Apple Maps in Russia. Outside of Russia, the territories are not shown as part of any country. Russia took Crimea from Ukraine in 2014. Google doesn't show Crimea as part of any country on its maps, but uses Russian spellings of place names when viewed from within Russia. Alright, let's talk a little more about what's going on with Facebook and VR. Patrick Beja noted that this news was breaking right at the end of yesterday's show, Scott. Well, we know a little bit more now. Facebook announced it will buy beat games. If that name sounds familiar, they are most known for Beat Saber, probably the most popular and very good game out on most VR platforms. But that means everything, including Oculus. So they've got stuff everywhere, which we'll get to in a minute. Anyway, the studio that makes this is now Facebook's beat games will become part of Oculus studios and continue to operate independently in Prague. Facebook says beat games will not become Oculus exclusive and continue to support VR platforms on its own. However, mods which let users upload their own audio files will come under legal scrutiny. That's not a huge surprise given they already sort of run up against that with that particular game. Yeah, and if I have this right, the mods are just your ability to upload your own audio file so that you can play the game with your own songs. And when this was a small company a little under the radar, it was easier to be like, no, you know, if you tell us something's wrong here, we'll go get it. But if you've got big pocketbooks like Facebook, that attracts the attention of the music industry, which starts to come after you to police that more actively. Yeah, totally, totally accurate. And they, the way it worked before, you had to know a little bit about the mods to make them. So if you wanted to put your own EDM music in there or something, and when I say your own meaning artists that you like, let's say you wanted to put knife party in there. I mean, no, it's only Linux isos that you're up there. I'm right. So you go in there and you have to know how to create the beats, quote unquote, the beats where the objects are. When you got to slice in with your, quote unquote, lightsabers all the timing, creating multiple difficulty levels. So the mod scene for that was actually kind of hard. But now with Facebook owning them, I don't think they can get away from away with that, but it's still one of, if not the best experiences in modern VR. And I'm personally excited to see what they come up with with a little injection of money. So I have really high hopes for this purchase. I think it's going to be good. Yeah, I mean, it is an example. And they're doing all the right things saying we're going to leave them independent, we're going to let them do, we want to get the best out of them, not ruin them. And so, you know, hopefully this just ends up being a way to make good games that sure will feature on Oculus devices. Don't get us wrong. I'm sure they're going to use them to make some great Oculus stuff, but continue to make Beat Saber for all the platforms. I don't see any reason why they wouldn't do that. Yeah. And there's also some precedents. And I know VR is not really a platform. We're going to talk about that a little bit more later. Or there's issues with that being called just a straight platform. But you know, Microsoft buys developers, they bought Obsidian Entertainment. They just put a game for multiple platforms using Epic's engine. Like there's a lot of crossover happening right now, which is its own interesting conversation. But this is probably going to be good for both companies. We'll see how it goes. Amazon voice services in the US getting more responsive specifically will be able to respond with excited or disappointed emotional overtones in three different intensities that can be set by developers. So for example, the feature could be used to sound excited if you tell, if it tells you that you answered a trivia question correctly, maybe disappointed if it's telling you that your team lost that football game kind of thing and so on and so on. The feature is powered by Amazon's neural text to speech. And Amazon says user satisfaction at responses increased 30% when the emotions were used in testing. So they think it's a good idea. Amazon also added a speaking style more suited to news in the US and Australia. Yeah. So right now, a lot of these voices are very like mildly positive neutral, which can be infuriating, right? Even though it's supposed to be positive, sometimes that neutral tone to tell you that your team was obliterated, 1,000 to nothing can just make you angry. I mean, or even something as simple as sorry, I don't know that one. I want her to be like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't know that one. Because you're disappointed too. We're both like, I'm sorry. It's irrational, but it's there. And so this is a good first start. I mean, it's just two emotional tones at this point. Well, I guess you're right. There's the neutral one too. And they're not going to get it right all the time. So that's going to be infuriating occasionally. But I'll be interested to see this happen. It's the natural evolution of how this all goes, right? There are certain times where I get a response where I'm like, okay, I know you don't know any better, but that was a little too upbeat for what I was asking. And your lottery number is one. Thanks. Yeah, it will rain today. See, I've got a thing right now. I'm a little mad at my echo because we were trying to get it to play 80s music on a playlist that I have an Apple music. The integration is pretty good. And it usually does the commands, right? But, and this may happen for others, but I would say, please play 80s music on Apple music. And it would say playing hot country from Apple music. And it didn't matter how I said 80s, 1980s, the name of the playlist, rename the playlist, try it again. Didn't matter. Always modern country every time. So what I would like is when I got so irritated and frustrated is for her to sense how mad I am and try so that my emotions could be manipulated on the other end. That's what I want. I'm sorry that I couldn't fulfill your request. It's sort of, yeah, it's like Scott's angry. Let me recoil and start to sound a little bit more, I'm sorry. I'm not getting this right. You're obviously upset. Bottle up those emotions to explode later when Skynet happens. There you go. Moscow's Ministry of Agriculture and Food says research shows a link between a cow's emotional experience and milk yield. So to put that to the test, to another test, there's been lots of research on this, but another test, a herd of cows at the Rus Molokov farm in Moscow's Romensky district put VR systems adapted to cows' heads on the cows and showed them a lovely summer field simulation program. Initial tests reportedly boosted the overall emotional mood of the herd, and the ministry said, quote, examples of dairy farms from different countries show that in a calm atmosphere, the quantity and sometimes the quality of milk increases markedly. The effects of the VR headsets on cows will be examined in a long-term study with a potential to expand the project.  They just know their senses are being calm. What if they do? I mean, cows are pretty docile, right? What if they're like, I like this? This is better? Maybe. I mean, that's the thing. They may like it and think it's better, but do they really know what's happening? Or do they know that they're in a fight? That's a great question. Whether it's more immersive for cows or not, Scott. Yes, that is what I'm getting at. Presence is everything in VR. That's what everybody's aiming for all the time, creating real presence. So if you're inching along a cliff wall, you have all of the regular body and mind sensations of, I'm going to fall if I slip. That's the goal. That's the holy grail of VR is to really capture presence. And I would argue the study shows that the cows, they created enough presence for the cow to be completely fooled by it. Have you ever put on a VR headset of like an ocean scene or aquarium? And even though you know it's not real, you just kind of feel yourself calm down? I think that's what's going on here. Yeah. Once in a while, it does happen. I think, and I think there is some automatic stuff that happens like mentally, if I'm in a thing where I'm suddenly thrown off something or if I'm on a roller coaster and there's a drop, you feel those sensations, even though you are kind of aware that your buddy's in a chair over there and you can kind of hear the radio upstairs and, you know, there's, there's, there's lots of things telling you you're not really in this world, yet we still react that way. I just think cows are just more gullible than us and we'll just buy whatever. I don't know why you're anti cow. Why are you going to go throwing cows in? I don't either. I like milk. I, I just, I don't know.  And I'm like, as long as they're happy because it can get, this gets a little weird, right? Happy cows come from the VR fields of Moscow, Moscow, right? Yes. Yeah. That's, you know, that's, that's the tagline for sure. But, but yeah, you know, that rival dairies are now going to start hacking into each other's VR to put pictures of hamburgers in the summer field setting. Oh, the whole thing merits. That's the rudest thing I've ever heard. In response to Microsoft's Xbox chief, Phil Spencer calling VR a quote isolating experience. This seemed to ruffle a few feathers yesterday and that quote, nobody is asking for VR. Sony's Shia Yoshida weighed in. He tweeted that quote, we oftentimes work to make things that no customers are asking for. Unquote Sony's own PlayStation VR headset has sold well over the last little while, four million units in total. And certainly had proved that, I don't know, VR might work in a console environment. I would like to point out that Patrick Beja made basically this same statement before Sony got a chance to tweet it when he was talking about Henry Ford's thing about, you know, people don't just thought they wanted faster horses until cars came along, which is kind of what Shuhei Yoshida is going for here. There were a lot of other people very angry at Phil Spencer for this. And Scott, I was curious to get your thoughts about like, was that a mistake for him to say that, or does it just kind of make sure to set the table of Xbox is not going to support VR. So just get used to it right now. Well, I think it is important that he lays down expectations for this coming generation. We're all really excited about that new console and all their services that are coming around it. There's a lot to be excited about with Microsoft this time around. I think that it's good to set those expectations, but I do think it's just an argument about semantics at the end of the day. He could have said, in our experience and with the numbers we have, we're not going to do this right now because the demand isn't there or the man, the man isn't where we want it to be before we really go for it, or some other way of saying it to soften the blow. But then again, you're splitting hairs. Like he basically said that exact same thing in words people don't like. He doesn't mean that nobody wants VR. In fact, a lot of his context was taken out when people forgot to mention the rest of his statement where he talks about how those experiences are being found in other places, PCs among them. And they have a lot of data on who's using VR helmets on PC, Windows, mixed reality helmets, that sort of stuff. So they know a lot of that data. And I think that was his way of saying, yeah, we know it's out there. We know people want it, but we're at a really early stage of VR. And I think that things need to move down the road a bit before we go for it. And I don't really have a problem with it. In fact, he's the one guy at Microsoft who is very rarely gets in this kind of trouble, just for some, you know, semantic mis-slip or whatever, something he says that he didn't mean or didn't quite get across the way he should have. And so I'm going to let this one pass. I think it's okay once off for these guys to flub up and say something in a way that upsets people. But on the other hand, if they said, yes, we're going all in on VR, I'm pretty sure you'd have a whole nother group saying we don't want VR on our console. I didn't get the PlayStation for a reason. This better not be standard. So I'm paying more. Like we'd have all of that argument. So I'm feeling kind of neutral on all this. And really what, what it seems like Spencer was saying is, listen, this isn't like great for our business model. We just don't have the demand that we thought maybe we would have. But people hear things like, oh, it's isolating. No one wants it to be like, oh, if I like it, then I'm a loner and crappy.  And, and this is, this is something that we've, you know, in technology we see all the time. Yeah. And I would say it worked at absolute statement goes unpunished on the internet. That is true. And I'm more about out of time for this point, but I just want to make this tiny point. He's one of us. He plays like us. He knows what games are like. And Microsoft is chiefly responsible for a lot of us playing in a more isolated way. They introduced Xbox live. He made it so we could play over the internet, put headsets on, I mean, they weren't the first, but the first mass market. And it changed the way we play games. We are kind of isolated as it is. So I think he's kind of weird. It's kind of weird to say that exactly. Cause we're not all exactly playing couch co-op today is what I'm getting at. But anyway, Drew Olanoff, a former coworker of mine actually at TechCrunch, penned an op-ed on TechCrunch regarding Twitter's announcement that it would reclaim accounts that have been inactive for at least six months. Olanoff brought up how this would eliminate the accounts of deceased users, including his own father's account. After his and others' concerns, Twitter posted that it will develop a way to memorialize accounts before proceeding with the plan to deactivate. Twitter also further explained why it's doing this, pointing out that the policy was always in place. It just wasn't enforced. Local privacy laws, including the GDPR, have encouraged the company to start enforcing it more than ever. Twitter also said it may have to change its existing policy as well, but will communicate those changes broadly before bringing them into effect. And if you haven't read Drew's piece, it's a great example of why you'd be like, this is insane. I can't have this go away. This person is no longer with us, but I don't have the password. I can't take control of the account. Twitter, you should do something about this. It actually means a lot to me, and I know a lot of other people feel the same. Yeah. And it was smart of Twitter to jump right on this and point out that the reason they're doing this now is because they're trying to comply with privacy laws, like you said, that it doesn't mean they have to do it right this second. And since people have pointed out something they want to take into account, don't worry. We're not going to just start inactivating everyone's account. So it's good to get everyone to settle down like, don't worry, Drew, all and off. Your dad's account isn't going away. We're going to come up with a solution, and we will communicate that solution. Like, this is actually pretty good recovery practices from Twitter here to say, let's explain what we didn't explain, correct the first time, and let's let you know that we will definitely tell you before we change anything else. And so that is good. What I wonder is, because I can't believe this didn't come up in a product meeting when they were talking about this, why they didn't have this as part of the original plan? Was it something they assumed they would get to later when they revealed more details and underestimated the backlash?  And now they've changed their mind. I'm very curious about that part of it. You know, I would guess and, you know, I was not in any of those meetings, but I would guess that this was something that, yeah, the product team was like, we got to deal with this. But once you humanize it, it's like, oh, we have to deal with this now. You know, that really even, even if all your intentions are good, and there's a, you know, there's a roadmap of how things are going to roll out. And that's just sort of the way it works with a company the size of Twitter. When you, when someone says, this is pretty bad, and here's why, well, you have to change course sometimes. Yeah, it's good to see them do that. I would just add that I'm with Tom. I just can't believe this didn't come up. It seems crazy to say that it didn't, but also I've been around tech long enough and around video games long enough to know that sometimes stuff gets in the wild and you didn't mean it that way, or you meant it in a different way, or you were just got ahead of yourself and the wrong people talked to the wrong people and, and you course correct. And that's what they're doing. So that's, that's good. Yeah. And, you know, sadly, my, my father died before Twitter came along, and, and, and I would have loved him to see this. I don't know that he would have used it, but I would have loved him to see it. And, and, and if he had, and I want to give Drew Olinoff big credit here, very well crafted piece. This could have been an outrage piece. It could have been angry. It wasn't. It was him very touchingly using his dad's existing tweets to make his point. And what I thought was a very elegant and powerful way. I don't know, maybe that was part of what, what motivated Twitter, but, but this is something that I can tell, even though it wouldn't affect me, I would want to have if I had those sorts of tweets that Drew's has of his father. Well, and I think you could almost liken this to, and, and yes, my father, who was no longer with us either, never knew Twitter, but he did leave me a couple of voicemails that I will never delete. I don't, I don't listen to them every day, but they're there, and they're very important to me. They are sentimental. And if my phone company was like, we're going to go ahead and blow that out. I would, I, you know, I'd have a problem with that as well. Yeah, Scott, I, you know, it makes me, that makes me think of this recording of my dad giving a lecture on evaporated milk that I digitized because I just loved hearing my dad's voice, even though I didn't understand half of what he was talking about. And, and so yeah, if, if Dropbox said, wow, that MP3 doesn't match where we're getting rid of that. Yeah, you haven't listened to that in six months. We're going to go ahead and get rid of it. Totally. Well, that's where we're at. Where these services have only been around to what, 10, 11 years, and we're starting to experience. Yeah, we're having to make rules that just, there were no rules because we didn't do this before. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Well folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes instead of 30 minutes, why don't you subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com. It's a good supplement for daily tech news show and you can get all those headlines at dailytechheadlines.com. For the second year, Mozilla has published its privacy not included, kind of like batteries, not included privacy, not included gift guide, which rates gifts on a scale of not creepy, a little creepy, somewhat creepy, very creepy, and super creepy. For instance, Facebook portal, super creepy. The Nintendo Switch, not creepy. Mozilla selected the 76 internet connected products, so everything has a, has a net connection here based on how popular they are expected to be as gifts. They thought, a lot of people are going to be buying these for each other. Let's help them understand what they're getting into. To determine the creepy rating, Mozilla looked at how a product shares its data, whether you can delete any of the data that it collects on you. If the privacy information from the company is user friendly, can you understand what the policy is when you look at it? Whether it collects biometric data, this is just an important point of, you know, if it's a Fitbit or something, is it going to collect your heart rate? Is it going to store your menstrual cycle, all that kind of stuff? And whether it has parental controls or not. Mozilla then looked at whether the gift would use a camera, microphone or location tracking, and if it did, what permissions were requested and required to make the product work. Separate from the creepy standard, Mozilla also has a minimum security requirements rating. A product can be secure, but also creepy. So for instance, the Amazon Echo Show is listed as super creepy because of Amazon collecting data and listening to it for quality control, but it also meets the minimum security standards. To meet Mozilla's minimum security requirements, the product needs to use encryption in transit and at rest, support automatic security updates for a reasonable period after sale by default, require strong passwords, and have a system for handling vulnerabilities, whether it's a reporting system or a bug bounty program or something like that. And it also has to have a privacy policy. If you don't have a privacy policy, you don't have the minimum security requirements. So I thought this was a great thing to pass along to people because if you go to mozilla.org slash en slash privacy not included, you can look at these before you buy them because back in the day, we used to talk about buying a phone for someone was like buying a burden for them before you could get them an unlocked phone. You were buying them a two-year contract on a subsidized phone here in the US and that was kind of not a fun gift. So you might want to consider that when you're buying something. Do you want to get them a Facebook portal and all the concerns that come with that? Or do you want to get them a Sonos one SL, which is not creepy because the voice activation on the Sonos one SL is just for playing the music and it doesn't collect the data about you. And this is a good resource for looking at that sort of thing. Yeah, the SL it's funny that you mentioned that Tom because I thought that it was one of the best Mozilla kind of little tidbits where they were like Sonos did something interesting. They made the Sonos one SL speaker dumb and that might work for you. You might have a problem with smart speakers and it does all of these things but it may actually be the best speaker for you because it's not listening the way that other speakers are in that category. Yeah, I noticed, Sarah, you've been testing and using the Fitbit Versa two. They have a whole write up on that in here and they say they've given it five and a half stars or I'm sorry, four and a half stars, which is just about the full thing and they like it a lot. They put it sort of in the middle like not that creepy, but you know, if you want to use it, you got to share some data, you got to share location data like absolutely needs those minimums. I really like this. This is awesome. I don't know why this isn't a well, first of all, I don't know why it's the thing I didn't know about until now. I didn't know they've been doing this for years. So I feel like it could be done. This is only the second year. Okay. It's an amazing little service to me. It's very well done.  Is it, is it made? Well, you know, does it do the thing you're supposed to do? Well, I love that kind of thing. This is a great follow-on on that to say, all right, well, I've decided to get a home pod. Now tell me how secure it is. And I don't know where else to get this. This is really great. I love it. Yeah. So for instance, you can click through on these and see the star levels for the security standards as well as what data it collects on you. So I clicked through on the Litter Robot 3 Connect, which is rated somewhat creepy. It doesn't have a camera, but it does use an app. It doesn't have a microphone. It doesn't track your location, but you don't know how it handles its privacy. And it's not known if you can delete any data it collects. So it's not that it does anything, it's that it's not telling you what it does. It doesn't have a friendly privacy policy. It's all legalistic. So even though it's not a device where you're like, oh, it's definitely collecting things on you, it's more about like, we don't really know what this company's doing with your data. Maybe you don't care about that. And that's fine. But you should know that. You should know that whatever data it does collect, you're not going to be able to tell. Yeah, this, this description they have, I think this bears reading real quick about Facebook portal says, let's be honest, Facebook has a pretty terrible track record when it comes to protecting their users privacy. So remember that record $5 billion fine for privacy failures. Anyway, now they're asking people to drop a couple hundred bucks to put a device with an AI powered smart camera capable of tracking every move and a word of power. Don't say your name. Listening device in your home. What could go wrong given Facebook's terrible tracker in our privacy? We're worried a lot. I like the honesty and it doesn't feel like they are beholden to anybody here because nobody's, you know, nobody's doing deals with. It's very wire cutter ask, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. It's sort of like, listen, we put a lot of thought into this so you don't necessarily have to. Here's what we think because we really mean it. And we've gone, you know, the extra mile to give you the recommendations and you can make your own choice at the end of the day. Mm hmm. Thanks everybody who participates in our sub Reddit also making your own choices by submitting stories and voting on others. A daily tech news show dot Reddit.com. You can also join the conversation that we're having all the time in our discord. It's a lot of fun. Please join by linking to a Patreon account at patreon.com slash D T N S. Let's check out the mailbag. Andrew wrote in and he's responding to the conversation we had yesterday about privacy and how you can keep yourself safe when you're shopping for Black Friday or likewise deals. Andrew said a great service that I've recently started using is privacy.com. They allow you to very easily generate one time credit cards that expire once they're used. You can pay them to pay subscriptions, use them to pay subscriptions like Netflix, monthly yearly limits on the amount. There's some options there. Once a card is tied to a merchant can't be used anywhere else. They have free and paid accounts. I use a Firefox plugin that allows me to generate and fill in temporary credit card numbers with just one click and I highly recommend the service. Okay. So I responded to him on Patreon because I saw it. I'm like, oh, that sounds like a cool service. Who are they? This is why I like this Mozilla guide. I want to find out who are they and what do they do? Well, the first thing I found on the Better Business Bureau was they have an F rating because they have 11 complaints and only two of them are closed. The business is also not Better Business Bureau accredited. So that put up my red flags. I'm like, okay, when I went to their website, they are backed by legitimate VC companies. It's not a scam. But I have some questions about who they are. What are they doing with my data? Do I trust them with my credit card data? I like the service. And to be fair, Andrew said, all I can say is that in my two months of using the service, I've had zero issues either with signing up or using the service, but I haven't had a need to return an item yet. So something to keep in mind. But I do like the idea of it. A good trustworthy service that would allow you to make these one time use credit cards would be very helpful for your privacy and protecting yourself online. Yeah, actually, it kind of feels like a theme today that Mozilla lists what we talked about with Wirecutter. I like more tools to let me make informed security decisions about what I'm doing. That seems like a really cool way to do it. That F rating is concerning. Well, thanks for the email, Andrew.  Also, shout out to our patrons at our master and grandmaster levels, including Martin James, Bjorn Andre, and Tim Ashman. Also, thanks to Scott Johnson, the day of a Ford turkey day here in the US. Scott, what have you been doing over the last week? 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write to you and blah, blah, blah. And then by the time you get to the part where it's like I need you to help promote something, it's a lot more difficult than just, hey, this is happening, here's where it is. Can you please check this out? Yeah, if we answered all of our emails, we would have no time to do our shows. Like it's untenable, you can't do it, so don't be mad at us folks. I didn't show, if I had to answer my emails, I would have no sleep, my kids would never see me.  Aaron Landis with a $10 super chat, oh, just the 10 bucks, thank you so much, no comment, nothing, all right, I'll take it. Oh, and I got a new member too, you missed that one, Mike, that's okay. Fred J. Walsh, thank you so much for the YouTube membership, appreciate it. There it is, thank you. All right, we got one more for you, I think. Funky Flesh, did you make that name just to hear me say Funky Flesh? Cause I feel like I'm saying it. I hope so, yeah, doodoo.  I get to say, I was there for five of them full time and then the past four years weekly, so yeah. And then I joked with Emma earlier today on the majority of Port, how, man, I mean, 20 years from Emma, Sam was lucky that child labor laws were different back then when she was nine years old and started working at the majority of Port. Yeah, 20 years ago, Emma was nine. Oh yeah, she would have been nine, that's wild. Wow. So Sam started the show when Emma was but a wee lass. I was, jeez, I wasn't that young. I was 17 and I remember seeing the Air America majority of Port ads with Jeanine Garofalo and Sam Cedar with his bow tie, trying his best to mock Tucker Carlson. And I remember seeing them on the bus stops around my high school and when I went to college, I remember there was an ad right there outside of my school, a school of visual arts in Manhattan. So little did I know, just a couple of years later I'd be working for the fellow. That's awesome. Alrighty, another one for you. Looney Tunes 9000, Binder for NYC mayor. I gotta say, I had no interest in ever being a mayor, like the mayor of New York, it's a completely, like the worst job you can have because every single mayor, that's it. Their career ends with being the mayor. Giuliani built the Blasio. Eric Adams, you will see, they will not go anywhere. Like they each have higher aspirations but being the NYC mayor makes everybody hate you. But I will say the allure of beating Eric Adams. If nobody runs, you know what? I'll throw my hat in the ring.  That was announcement right there. Yeah. Something tells me other much more qualified people see the opening and they will be good candidates. But in the shocking event that nobody at all decides to do it, I will then throw my hat in the ring. Very cool, okay. Lance, did you wanna read anything? I only have a couple, I can read them out real quick. Manny Spinoza with the 4.99, thank you. And just wanted to say thank you so much to all you guys. I was having a crappy day today till I joined your live stream and you do a lot to help with my sanity. Aw. Great, very nice. Supercalifragilisticexpia-delicious with two dollars. Opposed police pensions, they vote anti-union GOP. Thank you very much for the message and for the dono. Comrade Cass with the five dollars. My first leftist mafia, 100 out of 10 y'all. Damn, I felt like we weren't even firing on all the cylinders today. Yeah. But that's a good review. And Jay Cass with the five dollars, with the bisexual background lights we're still patiently waiting for Lance to whip out the saxophone blasting careless whisperer.  I don't know if you guys play sax or anything, but. I don't, I don't play anything. I used to be able to play hot cross buns on the recorder, but I don't think I can remember how to do that. Yeah. That's me, so go nuts. Yeah. Okay. Well, this one's for me from shadow, five dollars. Thank you so much. This is a cool message. I'm featuring the leftist mafia in my final paper for my information behavior class this semester. That is so cool. Hopefully it's a good representation in your paper and not a bad one, but nonetheless, I'm just happy to be there. Very, very cool. It's a paper about organized crime. And the propaganda spread by the promoters and proponents of organized crime. This one's for you, Binder. Bay photo of the super chat, Binder for NYC 2025. If we can't have Olay, we can have Binder. That should be your official slogan. Take that as your official slogan. We can't have Olay, we can have Binder. And you know what I say, if we can't have Olay, we can have Binder. Right. It'll be great. It'll be great on like, it'll be great on like, in speeches, it'll make more sense, obviously, because there'll be some context there, but it'll be great seeing my photo if you don't know who I am. And that campaign slogan on like, a bus stop ad.  Who's Olay? Wait, what is this? What is this?  Is this for me too? Oh yeah, Tokyo Hans with the super chat.  Been nice.  I don't think he has anything to do with leftists going off. He just likes getting two opposing sides together and letting them just go at it at ratings. He doesn't care who gets off the most biting critique. He just wants to get off, just him. Yeah.  It's true. It's absolutely true. Yeah, he loves it. It's a millions of views, so I mean. Correct me, daddy.  Oh, yeah, I am. Oh, Looney Tunes 9000 with the super chat. Trump is now on with the Bible now, shaking my effing head. He's doing the Bible thing right now. I mean, this is going to be his new thing. I mean, I saw someone, I don't think it was a super chat, so I want to mention now before I forget. I saw someone say, I think it was Charlie DeGinimer that, you know, Bender will be the first mayor who takes phone calls and super chats from his constituents. And I was going to say, unfortunately, I would take phone calls, but unfortunately, if I became mayor, I'd have to stop the super chats because I'm not sure what the ethical, you know, the ethics are. That's true. We'd be paid to talk to the government situation. Right. But then again, you've got Trump fucking. Right.  I mean. Yeah. I think corporate lobbyists does. It's just the people now. The people get a right to talk to you. Right. Yeah. The Lumpin Lodge. I would continue the Skype calls, though. I will continue the Skype calls. Oh. Lance was. Lance was. I was mad. You know, someone is really mad off the, I don't know, I'll have to ask the mods. I do not recall what this is about. Yeah. Lumpin Lodge, my guess is that you're not necessarily banned. I think that what happens is you can get automatically flagged as spam by YouTube itself. I've had people get flagged erroneously who weren't actually like spamming, but they like, if you post like some people were. We did have a mass block event where someone, cause like there was a person taking off the mod team and they must have like on the way out blocked a bunch of people, but I don't know what this is about that. Yeah. And if you'd message me or pay to see toys, it's gotta be, I don't know, I'll ask. Yeah. A lot of times this is automated. YouTube has a spam filtering system that is really sweeping. So I wouldn't necessarily take it personally. Odds are, it's something that's a mistake. And that's, there was something that you might have inadvertently done to trigger the spam filters or something. It's also just mods. They're usually doing what they're doing to keep people safe. They're the reason these chats aren't filled with baddies and everyone's chat. Like the mods are awesome. Well, all power to the mods. I'm gonna stand behind the mods on this one. Alrighty. This one's for you, Matt. Tokyo Hans, Trump Bible Constitution. Trump, let me read this correctly. Trump Bible slash Constitution slash Art of the Deal slash Trump University Diploma for 60 bucks. Sounds like a steal. Yeah, if it was all that, I think I would throw down. I mean, that Art of the Deal book's gotta have at least what, like a $5 used book sale valuation. So I'm in right off the bat again. Somewhere around there. Yeah. Yeah. Unknown sends two pounds. Thank you so much. The King James Bible uses singular they, them. Oh, does it now? So apparently, yeah, it's woke. So you should probably stop reading the Bible because you don't want to want to be indoctrinated. It's part of the virus. Yeah. Charlie DeGeneres with a super chat. Please tell me he's selling signed Bible. Is he signing them? Cause that would be great. That would be so funny. I mean, who wouldn't want to get a book signed by the author himself? That he stole it from a hotel. He is the Sun God Emperor, right? I mean, he signed Lake and Riley's photo. Did you see that? He met with her family and they had like the picture of her and he signed it. He put his name on that. Yeah, how tacky is that? Christ. I mean, that's just in such poor taste. Tokyo Hans with a super chat. I can second lance the statement of Mormons in Japan. I don't know why they come here. The Japanese have no interest in religion. Well, I know broadly as a society, Japan isn't very religious, but I swear like when you do come across like those religious sections in Japan, they are very committed, right? Tokyo Hans, you know better than me. So I'm assuming that for Mormons, they go there for quality over quantity.  This one's also for you or no, I'm sorry. This was for Rebecca. Okay, so the next one would be from Balthazar for me. Thank you so much. 199 curling stones weigh 46 pounds. Jesus. It's heavy. Yeah, it's not surprising though. I am for you. Tokyo Hans with another super chat.  Oh, speed to with one on the boat, right? Oh, right. It is, yes. Oh, I never saw the second one. I saw the first one, but yeah, it was on a cruise. Was it a cruise ship or just the... Okay, yeah. I do remember it being... It's also not with Canyon, I don't think, so it's not as good. Oh, that's not, yeah. That's not the same. Balthazar 199, thank you so much. I guess P. Diddy became P. Diddy. I guess so. I gotta say, when you guys were talking about the P. Diddy thing, it was interesting, I was listening, but I couldn't... I had nothing to add because I'm telling you, out of the 100 names you said, maybe two of them sounded familiar to me. P. Diddy of 50 Cent. I had no idea who so many of these people, you guys, were name dropping hard. Well, you never listened to a lot of hip hop growing up, right? You were mostly punk and stuff like that? Yeah, I mean, if I hurt, if I did listen, it was like, whatever I came across on the radio or in the mainstream or anything like that, I just wasn't... Yeah, for enough. Wasn't a hip hop guy. We all have our little areas of expertise.  So I had a long time grudge against Diddy, so I'm glad he's finally getting held accountable.  That's funny actually, Mike, because I swear to God, you, your overall aesthetic is like the aesthetic of like, I would say 30 to 40% of people in like the hardcore scene. Oh really? Like there's a lot of like hardcore kids who look exactly like you. The hair, the beard, the glasses, the way you, at least from the waist up from what I can see. I don't know. You could be wearing some raver pants under there. I don't know. That's interesting. This one is for you, Matt. Baltazar 228, we're a $10 super chat. Worth looking into Steam Elements or similar to give more money to you all and less to Google per transaction. Oh yeah. Yeah. I wonder, Streamlabs, they have their own version of whatever we're using, Streamlabs. Is that what it's called? Yeah. Or no. If any of you use Streamlabs, yeah, if you use it for anything, I mean, I use it for Twitch. You have a link to accept direct donations without having to have YouTube take any. People just don't use it. People like using the YouTube interface to see the things pop up and get the stickers and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, it is easier too. So I don't necessarily blame people. Okay, so this one is for me from Cosmere Dragon, $5. Thank you so much. Anyone follow Noah Sampson? Would love to see him as a guest on the panel. He has very funny and well-thought-out look to his perspectives. I love Noah. I would love to have that. Yeah, sounds good. I'm not familiar, but yeah. Name sounds familiar, but I don't think I've watched. He has like a mustache and a soft-spoken bisexual lighting. Yeah, he's pretty good. I saw a few of his videos. Honestly, Noah, Noah's awesome. You just described like 50% of all LemmeStrew. You're gonna say the entirety of the YouTube community. Noah's amazing. I've had Noah on my show before. I could reach out to him. Oh, that's right. He doesn't use Twitter though. So I don't know how to communicate with him anymore because if he doesn't use Twitter, I was the only way that I was able to message or DM lots of people. Yeah, I think I watched your interview with Noah. That might be how I found out about him, Lance. Okay. From like a couple of years ago, but yeah. Oh, he blew up. I think he's like half a million subs already and that was in a couple of years. Oh, wow. Like his channel just exploded. That doesn't surprise me. I think this one is for you. Now, take cash with a Super Chat. Maga Bibles comes included with a hidden pocket to conveniently store your items such as Sudafed, Orange Bond Spray, Nude Portrait of Ivanka. Okay. This one is for me. I skipped one of my internally. Baltazar, thank you so much. 1999, that is a very generous Super Chat. I really appreciate that. Oh, hi Chico. Oh. And in there he's like, goodbye. And he's out. After binging quiet on the set after last week's episode, the lyrics of the intro to Drake and Josh took a much more sinister tone. I hope nothing comes out about my favorite show, Legends of the Hidden Tim Pool. I'm trying to remember. I'm trying to remember the Drake and Josh. I don't remember the Drake and Josh. I only remember I, Carly. But I don't know the lyrics. I just know like the... Wait, you're like the same age as me. I, Carly was a bit after our time, buddy. Yeah, but my niece has watched I, Carly every single day. So I had it like down and I would just, I had this, I knew the song and I would just watch it too because we'd all just watch TV. So yeah. When I think of, I get what you're saying. So that makes sense. When I think of live action Nickelodeon shows, the first two theme songs that come to mind is this is all that. This is all that. Oh, right, yeah. And then I think of Camp Iwana. We hold you in our hearts. And when we think about you, it makes me wanna... Oh, see, I don't know that one. Oh, salute your shorts. Oh, I don't think I saw that actually. Really? Yeah. All right. Man, that's even like, that's like older school than Nickelodeon. Like, I think that was like the early to mid 90s before Kenan and Cal and all the bigger, like before they blew up. Oh, okay. I didn't like, I didn't have, I didn't get cable until I was like a teenager. So I only saw a little bit at like my friend's house. But I remember liking the Amanda show, Kenan and Cal. There were others too. I can't remember. All that, of course. I didn't watch Pete and Pete. That was when I missed. I also missed, hey Arnold. I got to see Doug when they, I remember they brought it to like a non-cable station and I watched it then. I liked Doug. But yeah. It was on channel seven because Disney bought Doug. Okay. That explains it then. Yeah. Cause I remember at some point I'm like, Hey, this is a Nickelodeon show. I could watch it. All right. Rugrats. I loved Rugrats. Yeah. My mom would rent me the VHS's from the library before we had cable. I had the PlayStation one game. I even loved the older Nick Jr. shows, which I think were much higher quality than the Nick Jr. shows today. Did you ever see Eureka's castle? Eureka. My nephew liked Little Bill. That was the Bill Cosby show I think, right? I liked you would watch them. Yeah. I don't remember that one though. David did not. My niece like Blue's clues. That was Nick Jr., right? Or was that Disney? That was, but that was much later. Yeah. I'm talking like Nick Jr. when I was a kid. Oh, okay. See that would be too far out for me. Okay. So we have a C-333-9409 with two dollars. The Joker was playing Diddy. Thank you so much. Two dollars from Ryan Shant, justice for Denny DeKane and DeBant. Yes. Thank you. Seriously.  Unknown with 10 pounds. Similar thing happened in the UK with Jimmy Saville with BBC. Hundreds of victims. His statue was taken down. And no arguing about that from racists who cry about statues being taken down. Oh yeah. You know what? That sounds really familiar. I didn't follow that too closely, but yeah. I think this one is for you. Yeah. Meow Nyan with a super chat. Hey, Thornton FD signifiers video on Black Wrestlers. I thought it was fantastic. I did not know this existed and now I really want to see it. Yeah. FD is great. Oh, I know who FD is. I didn't see the video either. W1, the WB's complex history of Black Wrestlers. An hour and 20 minutes. Oh, I'm now I'm excited to go watch this. Just watch it real quick and we'll get back to the super chat. Yeah, OK, I'll just I'm looking for a way. Yeah, I mean, a lot of WB's issues are obviously you know, obviously, I don't think they're going to be solved overnight. But I'm going to say that things will probably be a lot better over there for really black, Latino, any sort of talent, actually, women. Now that Vince McMahon is gone, honestly, yeah. All right, next one for you. So random with the super chat. I think Texas banned some websites because they featured the word stepsis. Very funny. Now we're going to have the Babylon B crowd mad at us. Yeah. Oh, I think you're using the wrong mic. Lance. Oh, weird. Or maybe my mic's broken. Next one. Now, is that better? Yeah, that's better. Yeah, that sounds good to me. This for me too. Oh, Ton Besin with a super chat. Lee Atwater, at lack of lack of the wordplay from right. I'm confused I Missed this ton boss and I'm sorry. Do you guys know what? Lee at wet water is the one the guy who sung the guy What was Hmm, I'm not sure Unknown with two pounds. Thank you. JK Rowling was investigated by transvestigators Honestly, that doesn't surprise me Because they're transvestigating Rolling rolling rolling And I always like feel to correct myself it just I don't know why it just comes out, but yeah, it's Rowling.  Oh, they had a great video about this by the way, whichever one should check out Um, okay, here we go. Jay cast with five dollars. Thank you so much The real reason Mike doesn't want to say the C word is because he pronounces it as quackers. Okay. That's good That's good Frendos I got to take off she can once be to take him out for a night walk. So I'm gonna take care I'll see y'all next Thursday. Love you nice chatting. Love you too. Oh piece Lance. Oh boy I was reading something and I Uh Both is our 999. Thank you so much. That's so kind of you There's literally a seed faith pastor named Creflo dollar how anyone can give such an obvious sham money is beyond me Yeah, I mean so many of them like Creflo doll is one of the more shameless one. What is Seed faith is Like I'm thinking like oh wait never mind, I don't know. Oh I'm like the same.  Thank you Jules Mike some mess. He had me how I will thank you. I'm glad I could Make you laugh Heidi with $20. Thank you so much. That is very kind my goodness. Thanks for all you do. I appreciate it Thank you for for what you do Uh John Barlick with two dollars rest in PIS Joe Lieberman. Yes Darnell Henriquez with $199. Thank you so much Russell Brand smiling reminds me of Jamie Braddock Jamie Braddock. I don't know.  Let me let me check really quick Jamie Braddock. Oh, okay. Yeah, I see that Comic book character comic character. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that This one's for you Outro is gone with a $10 super chat Wisconsin primaries on April 2 voting Uninstructed since uncommitted is not on the ballot. Yeah I believe the New York's the New York primaries around that time too and for us We have to submit if we want to do the uncommitted type vote we actually have to go there and Submit a blank ballot So if you're in New York and you want it because there's no uncommitted the right end doesn't I don't know if there's no Writing or writing doesn't count or whatever but if you want to Do that primary protest vote To show Joe Biden you are unsupportive of him until he changes course on the US's position in Gaza Then you must go Pick up a ballot do nothing to it. Do not mark it at all not even just not for president you can't mark the ballot at all and submit the Blank ballot and I don't think that'll be a problem because I'm pretty short in New York The presidential primary is Not on the same day as the other primary elections So you don't worry about yeah, we have to go back in June or whatever for like You know the other primary elections. Hmm. That's weird presidential primary is Coming up in New York Okay, we got this one was for Rebecca. We read it but one more time Uncle gumball five dollars rest in puss in bio Joe Lieberman I think this one's you Yep, both of those are the super chat rest in pct john oliver motor coach offer What is that? What is this? I'm guessing a john oliver show reference. Oh, right. Yeah, john oliver gave He tried to bribe Lawrence thomas by saying if you resign from the supreme court, I'll give you a million dollars per year That's a higher salary than the supreme court and also a big I don't think it's like a 40 foot motor coach because he likes to travel around the country apparently But that has since expired So I think he had like 30 days.  Oh, yeah, I want to I want to drink the pink coke If you got any purple coke Uh, red coke blue coke green coke I love coke a coke. Have you tried the spiced one? Like there's a dune cola Uh, it's called spiced coke. I'm not sure if it's dune related.  It just depends. No, I I gotta try these out Sounds good to me right now. I'm on a uh This isn't a soda. So you'll be shocked to hear I drink things that aren't soda But right now I have a limited time To drink as many shamrock shakes as I can from mcdonough Why you should oh, okay good Because they have it for like a couple of weeks Yeah, maybe maybe a month or two. Okay. I still got them for now, but obviously Uh, they're called shamrock shakes because they come around march for st. Patrick's day.  Oh my god. I actually tried one and I wasn't a big fan You gotta like mint ice cream I do though, which is why I'm surprised.  That just tastes like uh toothpaste.  So shamrock shakes are like, oof So good Yeah, it should be my cup of tea, but it's not I'm just jealous that you can like drink as much coke Uh as much shamrock shakes and it like you don't gain any weight like give me your metabolism.  I've always been that way man. I've always been that way That's amazing. I actually recently weighed myself and for the first time in my life I'm approaching uh 140 Oh really Yeah, but I'm under it still. I'm not quite okay, but I'm the closest closest I've ever been But that's basically what you're supposed to be for your height, right? Like it's it's a healthy. I got no idea I got no idea. Um I used to be I used to I when I was younger before Before I hit my 30s. I had like I had like I'm gonna say it but not in a way. I'm gonna make sure nobody thinks I'm like showing off I had a natural as in I didn't have to do anything. I never exercised.  Yeah, I'm getting I guess the closest I can to a dad bod. I guess Well, I mean to only come close to a dad bod and drink coke every day That is like genuinely like you have an alien body like I'm very jealous I wish that my metabolism worked that way because if I have a shamrock shake like I'm gaining like 35 pounds It's ridiculous Yeah, I mean I I gotta I mean It's I say this and it's I'm able to like flaunt it now, of course But like eventually I'm sure if I don't pick up the pace and start getting in shape and exercising I mean, I do I do exercise. I play soccer a lot Um, I'm coaching my my kid's soccer team too right now. So I that that's even more exhausting because not only are you playing you're yelling at kids to pay attention That's more exhausting in a physical aspect of it.  I think I was like 19 or maybe 20 Um, and I would just bake a dozen cookies for myself And eat every single one of them throughout my shift I we also sold cinnamon rolls. So I put like the uh, the little Glaze the sugar glaze on top of the cookies and eat them And that that's you know, when I started doing that I had the fastest metabolism ever But over the course of doing that I didn't realize that um That was not the case and as I entered my 20s. I gained like 30 pounds over the years doing that.  I'm like I kind of have a a bit of a beer belly.  I was very disappointed. Oh, yeah That that same thing happened to me.  I'm sure that I'm bringing this up But uh, there was I mean I I still am but it's not as comfortable. I wear tight pants It's obviously I've worn tight pants for my entire the second I discovered punk rock.  I'm a I'm a 29 Oh, so, yeah, we're both. I mean, we're but how tall are you? I'm five seven Oh, so you must be a pretty skinny guy, too, then Uh, I I I lost weight over last year. So, uh, I was like a 31. I got back down to like a 20 29 That's impressive. I mean, I mean think about I'm five four five five you're five seven You got two to three inches probably closer like three inches on me And you're only one one weight, uh one one waist size bigger, I mean, I don't know if that's the norm, but it sounds uh It probably depends on the pants, too Like most of the pants that I wear are 30, but they're a little bit loose Uh, but 29 seems like the best although, you know Kind of like fluctuate on weight.  I mean my body must just be my bloodstream must just be like That's all you have so much energy caffeine Although does it does diabetes run in your family though because if it doesn't you might Okay, that might help you a little bit, right? You know it I will say I'm definitely addicted to soda at this point to the point where if I go An extended period of time without drinking soda. Let's say even just like 12 hours I've got a headache Oh, you know what that is. That's probably the caffeine element because I So every once in a while I'll have to quit caffeine into a cleanse for like a couple of weeks because it Just for whatever reason I get like a bunch of heart palpitations And so I have to stop caffeine entirely and then resume in order for the palpitations to go away And quitting caffeine it's like I'm so physically addicted that I get flu like symptoms When I quit caffeine for at least like two days And one thing that's what is you get aches in your leg I had no idea that that was a symptom of caffeine withdrawals because my leg like so achy and I'm like, oh my god I it can barely walk. That was the caffeine. It just Caffeine is brutal. It is a very addictive drug. So that's probably what that is right Okay, I I do. You know, someone says corporate fast food addicts need to grow up I mean, I do eat a lot of fast food, but I don't think I'm Addicted to fast food. I eat a lot of fast food because Of the the convenience factor and I do like it. I mean, I'm not pretending I I gotta eat McDonald's because I got no time. No, I'd like but I don't think I'm addicted to it I could definitely like I probably can't go without eating like Those type of foods in terms of like a burger or something for like I can't like stop eating burgers But I could probably live off like cut out McDonald's and Burger King and eat like a real like, uh, You know store bought cooked burger and be fine Like I'm not addicted to fast food in that same way But I do eat a lot of it because it's good and there's a convenience factor there. Yeah. No, that's you're not alone That's the reason why it's so popular Um, okay, I think this one is for you Um, look uh, uh, yeah with a $10 super chat Um, look up robert tilton. I've seen M blank blank gets grow the seed faith preacher claims. I'm not making this up in the middle um seen So robert tilton you see i'll i'll let me robert tilton I've seen what Oh word is I don't think we got a key. I don't think we got to blank out this word Obviously, we don't use this word to describe People little people but yeah, but this is a word in this quote So I'm and it's not a racial slur or anything So let's read it here because some people know what we're talking about robert tilton.  I've never heard of robert tilton as a kid. Um But yeah, they they're very uh demented Uh, so this one is from me from uh abs anonymous bastard society seven dollars. Thank you so much Hey guys, I've been thinking about making videos for a while now just curious But how or what editing software would you all recommend? Uh for me? I use final cut pro um I think it's The best for the price.  Uh, get that a try. You don't windows movie maker Do they still come with that? Is it still okay or something like that? I'm sure you can find something that's probably free Like people think that they have to go all in when they're starting out. You don't need to I see someone recommending da Vinci. I think that's a little bit too advanced even though it's free um Cap cut from the from bite dance cap cut is free editing software That they created so people could easily make tiktok videos, but you could do regular You don't have to make tiktok videos. Oh, that's perfect. It's it's a standalone program It's free to use I mean, I use final cut when I edit. Um, I don't do much editing anymore Um, because I honestly used to edit so much that I just got like I was like, I never want to edit again It was my job to edit videos for for many many years So, um, I did use final cut recently I use final cut is because it was the standard when I went to film school And so that was what I was trained on a lot of indie movies were using final cut then in the late 2000s um Now they all use premiere because apple fucked up and let adobe eat their lunch when it came to becoming the standard um You know big hollywood movies still use avid though um But the problem with premiere from adobe is that there's a subscription It costs like 20 something dollars a month or something and that's just for Premiere if you want the whole creative cloud you got a like all the apps after effects photoshop It's like I don't even know how much 60 70 80 which is so stupid I hate that they've turned everything into a subscription I I actually think we are In the middle of we're at the end cycle for the current editing softwares And that there's going to be something new that comes along very soon and takes over because final cut pro 10 which is the current one came out cheese A long time like over a decade ago now without any major major updates Like it's the same version of final cut for over a decade now adobe with the subscription. I think people are Are over subscriptions So I do think there'll be some new standard that comes along very soon that quickly Uh takes a large chunk of the market share what it'll be. I have no idea. It could be something that's out That's small and out now that'll get bigger or it could be something completely new But I do think we're in the middle of uh, we're at the end cycle I should save the current editing software doesn't help you right now though. So go use an eye movie Yeah, don't don't splurge. Just like, you know, test the waters a little bit. That'd be my advice A stone flower dragon with five dollars. Thank you so much Democrat, maryland lands won a special election for an alabama state house seat late tuesday I saw that flipping a republican health seat in a in the deep red state Yeah, which was really uh, it really says a lot because she ran on basically reproductive rights um, and that That helped her to win So, you know, it kind of goes to show you that I think that democrats even though the polling doesn't look great right now for biden at least I think that This issue is giving them A lot of momentum, right? And they're kind of underperforming polls as a result because people are really galvanized by this issue So it's a it's a good indication that um, you know, um Things might not be as bad as the polls say at least right now But who knows Both is our 999. Thank you so much. I really appreciate that you've sent so many super chats. You're so kind. Thank you Uh, I was excited to vote in the nyc primary until I read my sample ballot No uncommitted option every delegate is already committed to biden. I'm going to submit a blank ballot and disappointment Yes, what you got to do Yeah, submit the blank ballot and my dad just confirmed my dad didn't know about submitting the blank ballot So he already voted and he just voted for the default of biden but he confirmed in the chat that, um It's just the presidential primary So if you submit a blank ballot, you don't have to worry that oh, I If I don't vote for the presidential if I wanted, you know, show my my protest vote I can't vote down ballot. No, there is no down ballot. So feel free to submit a blank ballot in protest and um You won't miss out on anything else. The other elections are in a few months Uh, this one is from me from tokyo haunts 500 yen. Thank you so much Just want to let you know that I like that.  Thank you. I appreciate that Gotta wear my sweaters, uh all now because I'm not going to be able to wear them because it's gonna It's gonna start warming up here, which I'm excited about Oh, I see people in the chat recommending affinity in terms of editing software Oh, okay. I don't think affinity has video software. I do know they're a photo shop There's a photo shop Oh, they make an a photo shop alternative a um an illustrator alternative Something else. I can't remember. They don't make a video editing software. I don't think also They were just acquired by canva The uh subscription based online photo editing video like uh, like uh photo shop software So I don't know how much longer they are going to be. Uh pay one price Uh no subscription. Maybe canva will keep them that way. Maybe not though, but they don't make video editing software Good I the subscriptions are ridiculous. Uh, so if you have mac, I don't know Like final cut pro you just pay one price. Um, it's expensive. It's like 300 bucks But you get to keep it forever. Uh, there's another program if you want photo shop There's pixel meter on mac. That's what I use It's pretty good. Like it's not as robust as um as photo shop, of course But it's still like for 30 bucks. I think they even have like a pro one for 50 Um, it's good soft like you can do a lot with it So like, you know, you don't have to do these subscriptions if at least if you you know If you're on mac, I haven't done a lot of research in a while because I've just been using the same thing though All right. Dame Karen asks isn't canva AI focused now? Yeah, but so is adobe I don't know if people have been paying attention adobe is all in an AI too So I mean you're supporting it. You know, I don't know if you can get around affinity doesn't have any AI again, if you're looking for a photo shop Or illustrator and someone said the other app they make is an in design alternative like for For formatting magazines and newspapers and stuff like that. Oh, I see if you're looking for an alternative any of those I I have I don't have the in design one, but I have the affinity photoshop alternative and illustrator alternative They're good. They're probably the best alternative I've used Um, and they're still pay one price right now. So if you buy it now, you'll probably have at least this version forever Um, I'm not telling you to buy it, but I'm telling you it's a good It's a good if you are looking for a photoshop alternative. It's a good one Hmm Okay, the one on the screen is for you, I believe Uh, both is our the super chat says li at water was the speech writer for reagan Who finally revealed that all the economic talk that glp was doing was actually just code for the n word Oh, I didn't know that he revealed that okay Oh Another one from balthazar ten dollars. Thank you so much balthazar. My goodness Just a heads up streamlabs tends to go down and have more technical difficulties way more often than stream elements Streamlabs obs seems to have issues more often than obs, but it is more streamlined Yeah, you know what not that you mentioned that when I was doing my twitch streams and using streamlabs obs There was always an issue with the audio to where over time it would just get lower and lower And I would have to readjust it and just put like a new gain So like there were like four different gains just like maxed up. I didn't know what else to do Uh, yeah That is that is one thing to consider and also I'm not like super tech savvy. So if something goes wrong I get all flustered and I don't know what to do. So I do like stream yard Uh, and how easy it is and also talk studio. I think that's the streamlabs equivalent of stream yard. I want to say Um, I like those kinds of streaming softwares because you just like it just does it for you and I like that Uh narrator with the super chat. Did you see mary hooks from stop cop city? Uh response when asked about the arson of a police vehicle is powerful I did not I'll uh, I'll look that up. Um, yeah, I'm curious Uh, we got a couple for you actually matt Uh, the citizen perspective of the super chat. I am a size 52. I cry as I over fried chicken at 11 32 p.m By the way, what camera do you both use? um God, I forgot it's the panasonic. It's a it's a it's a it's a it's a mirrorless camera. I'm not using a webcam It's a panasonic g7. I want to say Um, I yeah, that's the one I use For now, uh, I'm using a webcam. It's a logitech brio. Uh, I think it's pretty good Oh, yeah, it is good. I didn't I thought you were using a mirrorless camera too or something like that No, we're rolling with the logitech. That's the one that uh, I think lancy uses too. I want to say All right, it's pretty good Oh, we've got a gifted sub for you For morbius dragon. Thank you morbius dragon. I appreciate the uh the gifted some And we got one for you from emo dragon Oh emo dragon with a $10 super chat You see any good bands lately? Just so fallout boy jmy world and hot mulligan highly recommend hot mulligan if you like midwest emo PS what's it take to get the binder twitter follow? Oh Um, I don't follow very many people. Uh, I don't do emo dragons a good follow But if you do good content, I will follow you and I'm sure you do I think I've Retweeted your stuff a lot. You definitely like post yeah emo dragon is good clips and stuff. Yeah. All right So I'd recommend yeah as a follow as a fellow follower because I I I'm very particular about it because I do use who I follow on twitter as like My feed for news So I try not to follow people who post like a lot of like Personal stuff or stuff to their friends like people like the people I follow tend to mostly post about Paul political news tech news, you know things that I To keep me up to date with the world um But yeah, if you do that, I'll I will follow you um Hot mulligan, I'll have to check them out. Um Yeah, sounds sounds sounds like something let me write them down right now. They sound familiar Oh, who did I last say the last show I went to? um, I went to a folk punk show a couple weeks ago To see apes of the state and doom scroll It was very good Both bands are very good. You should check them out. Uh, a few people noticed my apes of the state shirt on the stream last week And a few people checked them out and have since commented about how they are now big fans of theirs because of my shirt So, uh, check out apes of the state pre advertising Hey, I will happily advertise bands I like over like, uh, telling you to buy uh Software any day of the week. Yeah, right? But also if it's a good piece of software and you're specifically asking me how to do something Then I will recommend you the one that I use because it's the one that I use Oh, we got another for you Um, the bestest leftist with a super chat You guys got to see francesca florentini on pierce morgan. It was an epic takedown of trump. She's a hero I We played that on this show. You might have missed it. It was good It was really good. I agree with you Okay, so we have This one's for me. Actually shantel 799. Thank you shantel. I appreciate that if you're looking for software Uh pirate if you can't afford it also thanks for being my favorite show. Well, thank you so much I appreciate the fact that we're your favorite show that means so much. We cannot endorse illegal activity here but um You can't pirate Software though because they have it you need to be connected to the internet to use it And they don't they have versions that they um, they alter before Before they move to the subscription that you could buy Without a subscription like I think creative suite six. I want to say was the last one This is a long time ago now and for Years out like after they started the subscription service I did still use the creative suite six ones that you just bought outright Um They are very outdated now. You definitely will notice a difference um You know, they might not even be compatible with Newer operating systems either like there might be some errors and glitches you come across um Yeah Uh, and I think this one's for you So Uh, both is are with the super chat you can still get generated codes for Creative suite six master collection on ebay. They work just fine. And it's the last non subscription master collection made Yeah, just said that um, obviously, uh, both is our sentence before I said that But yeah, it's it's it's not stable anymore. Again, you could do this You could have easily used that stuff like years after the the they moved to a subscription But now we are so far removed from creative suite six that it's It's just very out of date And last but certainly not least, uh, jacos and five dollars Roasting me.  So I'll I'll accept that as a compliment Um, oh over on twitch really quick, uh, mori helm. Thank you for subscribing with prime Uh kf logan 1875. Thank you so much for the raid earlier kf logan 1875. Thank you Oh, uh, thank you to the serfs for the raid. Wow the serfs. Oh, I've heard of him. Is he good or? Yeah, he's all right. I mean sometimes he's uh, you know, he could be a little bit, uh Out there, but uh, I think he's all right. He's fine Um, we should have explained to his viewership what it is we do on this show. They might have been a little confused A lot of first time Okay, yeah, that's that makes sense Yeah, but um, do you got anything else mike? You want to drop? Uh twitch for you? Uh, nothing on twitch, but Let me check. Yeah, we're good Want to raid shark raid Shark 3o zero Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let's uh Shark 3o Zero What's that that in let's see. Oh, yeah, I've raided shark 3o zero. Yeah, shark's awesome. We got to bring him on some time Yeah So let's uh, hold on. Give me a steady press yet. I did It's queuing it up right now. It's got to fill them up. Yep fill them up Do-do-do. 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