Don't overthink it. Finding your calling is simple. And I wanna show you how to do it using practical teachings from the scripture. You know, we complicate this so much. Sometimes we get inside of our own heads. We think about our past and imagine that we're disqualified. We think about our shortcomings and imagine that God couldn't possibly use us. But whether you feel it or not, whether you realize it or not, whether you believe it or not, God has a calling on your life and walking in that calling is simpler than you think. Again, it's not necessarily easy, but it is easy in the sense that finding it can be very simple. We complicate things so much and I want to simplify this for you. I want you to write in the comments section right now. It's a prayer. It's a public proclamation. Just write these two simple words. This is to the Lord, send me. This is a public declaration of yielding your life before the Heavenly Father. Send me. So again, we're talking about finding your calling. I want you to go to Matthew chapter 25. We're gonna read a few verses beginning at verse number 14. And here in this portion of scripture, we find a very important biblical key. It's the principle of stewardship. Many Christians are stagnant. Many Christians are frustrated. Many Christians are confused because they don't know this biblical principle. The biblical principle of stewardship, the law of stewardship. Now, that may not sound exciting. Of course, we understand that to be called by the Lord, you need an encounter in His presence. To be called by the Lord, you need the power of the Holy Spirit. To be called by the Lord, you need to walk in purity. You need to know the word. And of course, when I say to be called by the Lord, I'm not necessarily talking about your salvation. Of course, we know salvation is not by works. It's by faith. And we, of course, place our faith in Christ and receive His righteousness. What I'm talking about here is your calling to ministry. Your calling to be used of God. Your calling to be used in impacting others around you. And in order to do that, we know there are things that have to be in place like what I just mentioned. But what is often forgotten is this very simple, very practical principle of stewardship. And if you can learn stewardship, you will see an acceleration in your understanding of your own calling. So Matthew 25, I'm gonna begin reading at verse number 14. Again, it will be like a man going on a journey who called his servants and entrusted his wealth to them. To one, he gave five bags of gold, to another two bags, and to another one bag, each according to his ability. Then he went on his journey. Verse 16, the man who had received five bags of gold went at once and put his money to work and gained five bags more. So also the one with two bags of gold gained two more. But the man who had received one bag went off, dug a hole in the ground and hid his master's money. Verse 19, after a long time, the master of those servants returned and settled accounts with them. The man who had received five bags of gold brought the other five. So he increased what the master had given to him. Master, he said, you entrusted me with five bags of gold. See, I have gained five more. Verse 21, his master replied, well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful with a few things. I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness. The man with two bags of gold also came.  See, I've gained two more. His master replied, well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful with a few things. I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness. Then the man who had received one bag of gold came. Master, he said, I knew that you are a hard man harvesting you have not sown and gathering where you have not scattered seed. So I was afraid and went out and hid your gold in the ground. See, here is what belongs to you. So he didn't do anything with it. He just buried it, didn't invest it, didn't produce. He didn't use it to increase. He just buried it because he was afraid. Now he brings it back to him. His master replied, this is verse 26. His master didn't say, I understand you were nervous and didn't want to squander what I gave you so I can appreciate that you didn't take a risk. Now, what does he say?  So you knew that I harvest where I have not sown and gather where I have not scattered seed. Well, then you should have put my money on deposit with the bankers so that when I returned, I would have received it back with interest. So like at least you could have done something. Verse 28, so take the bag of gold from him and give it to the one who has 10 bags for whoever has will be given more. Isn't this just the opposite of what culture teaches us today? For whoever has will be given more and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have even what they have will be taken away from them. Verse 30, and throw that worthless servant outside into the darkness where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Now, of course, this principle of stewardship has what we call universal application. By that I simply mean that the principle that is behind this parable, though the parable is talking prophetically about something very specific, the principle here is of stewardship. The principle here is of using what God has given to us. Now, we often get stuck when trying to find our calling between two things, paralysis and presumption. Those who are presumptuous just take steps ahead of where God is going. They assume that God is going to back everything that they do. They don't check their motives. They don't check their own purity. They don't check with God. They just move forward, do what they see fit and spend their life doing exactly what they want while never listening for the voice of the Holy Spirit to instruct them. And then on the opposite end of this, we have those who get stuck in paralysis. They're so afraid of making a mistake. They're so afraid of stepping, quote, outside of God's will end quote, that instead they settle for doing nothing. They're so afraid of doing the wrong thing that they don't do anything. I'm gonna say that again. They're so afraid of doing the wrong thing that they don't do anything. This legalistic mindset where they think that there's this demand of a specific occupation. We imagine that we're gonna get to heaven and God's gonna say, well, I called you to be a lawyer, yet you were a pastor.   And we have this idea in our minds that that's what it means to do the will of the Father, to find that specific occupation or that specific function here in the earth. That's not it at all. Fulfilling the will of the Father is to live in the righteousness of Christ. And Christ, of course, perfectly fulfilled the will of the Father. So we have to be free of this legalistic bondage where we're so afraid of taking the wrong step or we're so afraid of applying the wrong action that we just freeze up and say, I'm not gonna do anything. And really what it is, I'm gonna call you on it now if this is you. And if this is you, you gotta admit it and ask the Holy Spirit to help you here. Really what it is, is it's a false humility. Well, you know, I don't wanna move unless God tells me to move or I don't wanna do things out of impure motives. Those are both really good ideas. No, you should not move outside of God's will. And no, you should not do things with the wrong motives. I agree with that. But sometimes we're so afraid of those things that we don't trust God to be able to guide us. We're so afraid of those things that we don't trust God to be able to keep us. There are many of you who should be ministering online already, but because you're so afraid of being perceived as someone who has impure motives, you've not made a move. There are some of us who should have written a book already, who should be preaching already, who should have witnessed to their coworkers already. But we're so afraid of missing the timing of God that we miss the heart of God. Now, again, I'm not saying that you just move on ahead, do things out of your own imagination and do what's before you. What I'm saying is that there has to be a balance between paralysis and presumption. To not walk so fast that God cannot instruct or correct you and to not be so still that we settle in this place of fear where we never do anything that has any impact, referencing back to Matthew chapter 25, we read verses 14 through 30. We see that when the master went away, he didn't give the servants instructions. Instead, he gave them resources in proportion to their ability. He gave them something to do something with. He put gold in their hands, fully expecting that they would take that gold, invest it, or use it to maybe start a business, or in some way increase those resources to do something with it so that when the master returned, that they were able to give that back to him as an offering and say, here's what you gave me and here's what I did with what you gave to me. So no instructions, no specifics, just do something with what I gave you. You understand that I want there to be increased. You understand the kind of master that I am as of course they understood who he was. So do something. And that wicked and lazy servant was scolded, rebuked, punished. And the master says to him, you should have at least put that gold that I gave you as a deposit with the bank and we could have gained interest on it. In other words, you could have done something. You could have done anything at all. It was counted to him not as humility. Someone needs to hear this. It was counted to him not as humility, but as laziness. It was not humility, it was laziness. And some of us are either afraid or spiritually lazy and we try to slap the label of humility on these things in order to be excused in our conscience from what we know God is calling us to do. So again, am I saying that therefore you should just run ahead, do whatever on your heart, go ahead, accomplish your goals as you see fit, do whatever is in your imagination, don't ever consult with God. No, I'm saying to live at a purposeful pace, to take that which God has given to you and apply it to his general will. What do I mean by that? I'll tell you this right now. Here's what you're called to do. You wanna know your specific calling, biblically speaking, here's what you're called to do. As a Christian, you're called to live holy. You're called to worship the Lord. You're called to glorify Jesus. You're called to know the word. You're called to pray. You're called to evangelize. You're called to serve in a local body of believers. These are the general commands of God. And so often we're waiting for a specific instruction from God when he's given us general commands in the word. Now why is God going to give to you a specific command for your specific situation if you haven't done anything with his general commands? So what is the will of God for your life? To accomplish all those things. To do all those things, of course, by the grace of God, through the power of the Holy Spirit, it's God's ability in you, it's not you doing it, we understand that. But to cooperate with the process that he has you under. To do the basics of Christianity, to carry out the basics of Christian responsibility, to be effective for the kingdom of God by following his word. You accomplish God's will by obeying God's word. You accomplish God's will by obeying God's word. So many of us are waiting for the heavens to open and God to give us a vision of the specific task that we ought to do. We wanna see, is it an orphanage? What city? What nation? And it's good to know those things. I'm not saying we mustn't be instructed in the specifics. I'm simply saying, while you're waiting on the specific instructions, obey the general commands. Use your specific gifts to fulfill God's general commands. That's what you're called to do. All of us as believers in whatever capacity are called to expand the kingdom of God through the use of our resources, talents, abilities, gifts, energy, connections, whatever God gave to you. Think about the fact that in the parable that we just read, the master gave to each one in proportion to their ability, but he gave each one of them something. So whether you feel like God can use you or not, whether you feel qualified or not, whether you feel like you have something to give or not, the fact of the matter is that God puts something in your hand. Even by the way, if it's something as basic as willingness, you know, God can do quite a lot with willingness. God can do quite a lot with surrender. God can do quite a lot with radical faith and obedience. So God gives to you something.  Think about 1 Corinthians chapter 12 verse seven, how it describes the purpose of the spiritual gifts and the fact that each one of us have a spiritual gift. Each one of us has been given something from God.  He gave you something. And instead of waiting around and saying, well, God hasn't given me something so specific that I think it's tailor made just for me, therefore I won't move, instead of waiting around and doing that, say, okay, how do I give these specific gifts that God has granted unto me unto the purposes of the kingdom of God? How do I use my specific gifts to accomplish God's general commands? So whatever he gave you can be used to win the lost. You may say, I'm not a preacher, I'm not an evangelist, I can't stand in a pulpit and preach, great. But he gave you something, maybe he gave you a gift of encouragement, maybe he gave you an ability to speak and put people at ease, maybe he gave you a friendly disposition or friendly demeanor so that people feel more free to open up with you, maybe he gave you a big family, maybe he puts you at a job where you're connected with a lot of people, he gave you something, maybe he gave you compassion or kindness and you have this tendency toward those things, you use that to fulfill God's general commands. I'm not saying God won't specifically instruct you. He absolutely will. Like the Lord led me, obviously, into media. He led me to evangelistic ministry, to the healing ministry, to teach on the Holy Spirit. What I'm saying to you is that what God put in you, Lord, I pray you help us receive this, ask the Holy Spirit to help you receive this. What I'm saying to you is that what God put into you is an indication of what he's called you to. What God put into you is an indication of what he's called you to. So then you look at what God gave you and no more of this false humility, no more of this self-hatred, no more of this being critical of self and saying, well, I don't have anything, I have nothing. Some of us just need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and take an honest evaluation and look at our lives and be thankful, show gratitude for what God placed in you and then say, okay, how do I use? Even if you think you're the one with the one bag of gold, you say, I'm not the five bag of gold person. I'm not the two bag of gold person. I'm just the one bag of gold person. Okay, even if you're just the one bag of gold person, which sometimes I feel like that's where I am. Lord, I don't have much to offer you, but my willingness and do what you can with it. So maybe you're that one bag person. Maybe you're like me and you think of yourself in terms of being that one bag person. Okay, he gave you one bag of gold. Do something with it.  When you say things like, I don't have anything or God didn't give me anything or I don't have anything to offer or when you say things like that, again, it sounds like humility, but really what you're doing is you're criticizing what God deposited in you. Now this is not a message of condemnation. This is one of correction. I'm not saying this to tear you down. I'm saying this to wake you up so that you can say, okay, wait a minute, maybe I have been a little negative. Maybe I have just kind of been feeling sorry for myself and saying, well, you know, I have nothing. Why? Cause we look at, you know, what some would call the power gifts. Well, I don't have the gift of prophecy. I don't have the gift of healing. So I don't have anything. No, he gave you something and it's a lie from the enemy. If you believe otherwise, don't let the enemy lie to you. And so then you take these gifts and you say, what did he give me? What did he put in you? Take an honesty value. And if you don't know, if you can't take that honesty valuation, ask the people around you. And when they tell you, don't say, no, no, no, I don't have that or no, no, no, I'm not gifted in that area or no, no, no, I disagree. I'm not that good. If you're gonna ask others their opinion about how God gifted, you just receive what they're saying. Cause thank God for Christian friends who sometimes can see in us, the things that God put in us that we ourselves cannot see. But you take that evaluation and you say, here is what the Lord has put in me. And it doesn't necessarily always have to be supernatural, though every single one of us will have the working of the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit in us. Sometimes it could be something as simple as, I'm a very kind person. Or God gave me a lot of patience. Or even something you might not even think of like, I have a big family. Or I like to write or I like to paint or I like to, whatever it may be.  And as you begin now, here's what happens. As you begin now to use what God has given to you to fulfill his general commands, to expand the kingdom in general, then what begins to happen is God begins to reveal to you specifics. In other words, he guides as you go. He walks with you as you obey. Of course, he never abandons us even when we struggle, but I'm saying that there has to be this pace of grace. We're not running ahead of Jesus. You're not lagging behind Jesus. You are instead walking with Jesus. And in order to get to this place, you have to surrender and you have to be willing to take an honest evaluation of self and say, okay, what has God given me? I'm gonna steward that. And I'm gonna use that. And I'm gonna do all that I can with that excellence is not having the best of everything. It's doing the best with everything that you have. So that's one thing you wanna find your calling. It is easy to find your calling. Now it's not easy per se in that there won't be any trials or you won't have self doubt. I mean, even to this day, sometimes the enemy tries to attack me with self doubt and so forth, but you know, as long as we trust in the Lord, that's the key. So that first principle here to walking in your calling, and I'm only giving you two this evening because I want you to really meditate on these truths. That first one is stewardship. Understand stewardship. Do what's before you and God will direct the next step.  Let me know in the comments section if this is helping you. How are you being challenged? What areas maybe are you overlooking in your own life? Let me know in the comments section. John chapter 15, I'm gonna read verses one through eight now. So number one, know the law of stewardship. And number two, and this is probably the most important key, but I wanna finish with it so it's the last thing in your mind here and it stays there. Or it's the last thing that I say so that it's the one that you remember most. John 15, one through eight. I am the true vine and my father is the gardener. This is Jesus speaking. He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit. Well, every branch that does bear fruit, he prunes so that it will be even more fruitful. You are already clean because of the word I've spoken to you. Remain in me as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself. It must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. Verse five, I am the vine. You are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit. Apart from me, you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away in withers. Such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish and it will be done for you. This is to my Father's glory that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be disciples. And again, that's John chapter 15 verses one through eight. I'm gonna say something and I want you to hear it without being dismissive of it. Because sometimes I think we hear things so often we kind of just wave our hand at it and go, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've heard that before. But really, I want you to get this in your spirit. This is important to me that you understand this. It's important to me that you receive this, I should say, more accurately in your spirit. You wanna find your calling, abide in the vine. Abide in the vine. You say, well, how can that be? It can't be that simple. Yes, it is. It really is that simple. Cling to Jesus as he holds you.  And if you're with him, you're in the will of God. Because when you walk with him in this way, now you've gone from making it into a formula or a system and you cultivate that relationship by your obedience to him, your trust of him. And now there's this connection in you that begins to form. Now we already know we're connected to the Lord. We're in him and he and us. But you know, you receive of that connection. That connection begins to gain influence in your life when you walk in obedience. And some of us complicate this so much. People often ask me, David, what would you say to someone who's just beginning in ministry? Well, first of all, I like to think that I'm still just beginning in ministry. This is the beginning of something I believe God is doing in his ministry. And I get to be the steward of this particular expression of God's ministry. So I still like to consider myself beginning in ministry. But people still ask me, David, what should I do? What should I know? What's the key? I'm telling you right now. And any minister who walks with the Lord in this way will tell you the same thing. Just love Jesus. Like really, that's it. You're not gonna get a special formula. There's no special ritual. There's no special prayer. There's no secrets in the anointing and secrets in the mantle and secrets in the power of God that nobody can ever learn. I mean, it's all in scripture anyway. But you can learn all of that and still miss it. You can learn all of those keys. You can get a double portion of this and a mantle from that. And you're not connected to Jesus. You're not gonna bear any fruit. Not any fruit that lasts anyway. You want lasting fruit. You wanna truly enter into your calling. Cling to Jesus. You know why? Because when you spend time with Jesus, your character changes. And that character becomes a character that can handle the calling. You don't cling to Jesus. You don't develop the character. And if you do happen to be able to force your way into a promotion and ministry, the weight of that responsibility will crush you because you never strengthened the character within you. And then as you spend time with Jesus, you begin to develop this sensitivity to the voice of the Holy Spirit. Well, isn't that a great advantage? I think about the apostles trying to go into Asia. I believe in Acts chapter 16. But the Holy Spirit keeps preventing them until it's time. Well, that goes to show you that they have the same mindset that I do, which is just go and do something for the Lord that is commanded in scripture generally and let God guide and correct you. The sin of presumption isn't that we don't take initiative. I mean, isn't that we take initiative? You should take initiative. You should try to look for areas where you can serve and help and expand the kingdom. But while you're taking initiative, listen for the voice of the Holy Spirit. And so long as you're listening for his voice daily, if you do happen to miss it, he can correct you. That's what happened in Acts 16. Read it. They didn't pray about going to Asia. They didn't get a specific instruction from the Lord, go to Asia now. No, they just said, we're gonna go because it looks like there's a need there. God's general command is to preach the gospel. He specifically gifted us with a preaching gift. Let's go into Asia and preach. And then the Holy Spirit said, no, stop. I don't want you to go there yet. So they didn't. So that goes to show you that they were just looking to fulfill God's general command with their specific gift and the Holy Spirit guided them. And if you cling to Jesus, you're gonna be sensitive to the voice of the Holy Spirit and you'll be able to know those moments when you're off track.  You wanna be in ministry, oh my goodness. Let's talk even specifically about public ministry. Now this message can apply to all believers in every aspect of every kind of calling, I should say. But, you know, let me just take a minute or two to talk to those who are called the pulpit ministry, preaching ministry, teaching ministry. You want that kind of ministry? The pressure that comes with that, people would not believe. It looks so glamorous, like you just get to talk to the camera, you get to stand on the stage. My friend, I'm telling you, the pressures of ministry, the attacks that come, the people who turn on you, the way the enemy tries to, I'm telling you, if it weren't for Jesus, it just wouldn't work. Sometimes I think you know not what you ask for, but Jesus will sustain you. Knowing Jesus brings that mental and emotional stability, helps to keep you consistent even in trying times. And that really is the key.  You don't lose strength and vitality. Yeah, there are moments where you maybe get physically drained or mentally drained or emotionally drained, but spiritually, there's this divine energy that helps you keep moving forward. I'm talking about strength, vitality, movement. Stay close to Jesus. You wanna find your calling? Your calling is found in Jesus.  Your calling is found in Jesus. You wanna find your calling? Seek Jesus. You wanna find the power of the Holy Spirit? The power of the Holy Spirit is hidden in the presence of the Holy Spirit. It's that simple. You say, how can that be?  And when everything in you is aligned with God, you're gonna become like a magnet for your calling and it will just attract itself to you. God will guide you. Become who you're called to be in Christ and then what you're supposed to do comes naturally. I'll end with that thought again.  Become who you're called to be in Christ. And then what you're supposed to do for Christ will be drawn to you naturally. Father, I pray you help them do it. Help us to steward well, which you've already given to us. Help us to obey which you've already written unto us in your word and help us to keep Jesus at the center. Lord, we repent of being presumptuous. We repent of being fearful. And we in faith, Lord, declare that we will step into the calling that you have placed upon our lives. Help us to stay close to you. Touch that one receiving this now. And Lord, I pray for those who are believing for healing and deliverance. Let your power begin to flow. Touch their lives in a fresh way. Holy Spirit, let them sense your presence and power even now. In the mighty name of Jesus we pray. I want you to write it in the comments. If you agree, write amen. If you enjoyed this message and you think others need to hear it, make sure to leave a like on the video. And also, I really wanna stay connected with you. If you enjoyed this teaching, you want more like it. 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this August gathering. I'll speak legal propositions in respect of preparation of NRC in the state of Assam. In 1951, NRC was prepared on executive instruction in the state of Assam while the census was carried out. But that could not be completed throughout the state of Assam. And recently in the year 2013 the Assam government led in the Assam assembly that NRC documents of 6 districts are not available. And water list of 1966 or 1971 of many more districts are not available. This NRC the term is being used as updation whereas the rule says about preparation. Because 1951 NRC is not completely available through the state of Assam then that cannot be updated. But rather it can be prepared raising 25th March 1971 as a guard update. The rule was framed in the year 2003 for preparation of NRIC national register of Indian citizens throughout the state of, throughout the country. But that rule provides for house to house enumeration. And in the year 2009 that rule was amended and rule 4A was added to the main rule. And a schedule was appended to this rules for special provision for preparation of NRC in the state of Assam. The schedule says that the NRC will be prepared in the state of Assam containing the names of those who are having their names in the NRC of 1951. Or any of the electoral rules after 1971 and their descendants. Rather we can say this NRC national register of citizens within bracket descended by descent. Because the persons who acquired citizenship by otherwise by following due process of law whether it is registration or whatever may be after 1971 they are not entitled to enlist in this NRC. This issue of applicability of section 3 of the citizenship act that is citizenship by barb is not also considered for this NRC process. Recently Honourable Supreme Court referred this matter whether section 3A1 that is by birth of 1987 would be applicable in this process or not. Or those who claim citizenship on the strength of that very provision of citizenship act will be entitled to include their names in the NRC or not. Is referred to the constitution bench on 13th August 2019. The NRC process while this process started as a pilot project in the year 2010. There was recent man amongst some section of people in respect of this process and application forms and procedure. Then in the year 2010 Assam government constituted a cabinet subcommittee for discussing the issues with all stakeholders of the state. And prepare a modalities and SOP standard operating procedure how to prepare the NRC in the state of Assam. Then it was unanimously decided that the NRC would be prepared on the basis of these two documents and 13 documents other documents were added to these two documents which are mentioned in the rules. This process started the verification process that is official verification report of the documents which were submitted that backend report was called for. And two types of documents were used for this inclusion in the NRC. One kind of document that is prior to 1971 that is called legacy data or legacy document. And another kind of document that is linkage document to link with that very person legacy data holder by the descendant. Now after this publication of final NRC which cushion arises that is the person will have to approach the furnace tribunal as per paragraph 8 of the schedule that has happened with the rules. The paragraph 8 says that the persons who are not satisfied with the outcome of claim and objections. They may prefer an appeal before the designated tribunal constituted under order 1964. The designated tribunal might have been something different from the furnace tribunal because this appeal right to appeal is a continuous process of NRC, NRC process. This is not different from and when a person is referred to the furnace tribunal he has to produce his certified copies of documents and he has to produce the continuation of his presence in India or in the state of Assam. But in case of NRC the person was or rather is required to produce two documents. There is one prior to 1971 another after 1971 only to link and this applicants were asked for submit their family tree. Family tree order we can say it a legacy tree. Mr. X is a legacy holder. A, B, C, D used his legacy. Every person has to submit was required to submit their family tree consisting the names of all persons who use this legacy data for cross checking the authenticity. Now in the furnace tribunal people are getting confused that if this appeals are virtually converted to reference then people will be at difficult because certified copies of 1951 NRC are not supplied by the government. Yet judgment of one of the Guwahati High Court is there in 1976 that 1951 NRC is not a public document rather it can be said as a private document. That's why the people will not be able to get the certified copy of this 1951 NRC except the electoral rules of 1966 and 1971. Other documents, land document people may get the certified copy but other documents are there and those are not given certified copies but those documents were considered while carrying out the NRC process. And these designated tribunals rather these tribunals are now termed as furnace tribunal rather these tribunals could have been termed as citizenship tribunal because this process, entire process of NRC is being carried out under the citizenship act and rules frame they are under. Not under the furnace act or furnace tribunal order whatever may be. Then some legal questions comes up what happens on our Supreme Court in a case, individual case held that the person who have already approached the furnace tribunal and whatever may be the outcome, whether he has referred or he approached whatever may be the outcome he is declared Indian citizen or foreigner, he cannot approach the furnace tribunal again. Rejjudicator will apply for that. Some people who have already declared as Indian citizen under the IMD act or IMD tribunal and furnace tribunal they are left out of this final NRC. And now they are barred by this judgment. Rejjudicator will applicable. Where they will go? One class of people. And another category of persons the children born after 3rd December 2004. There was a modality for disposal of claims and objections of NRC process which was approved by the Honorable Supreme Court on 11th 2018. The model is closed, 4 subclose 9 says that if a child of 14 years or below the age and both the parents are qualified to be enlisted in the NRC, then the child should be included in the NRC on the basis of oral testimony of the parents. But such many more children are left out from the final NRC. The children are also required to approach the furnace tribunal. Virtually the children cannot move the furnace tribunal or designated tribunal, whatever may be the parent have to approach as a legal guidance or as a parent of that very child. Then we are thinking to move Honorable Fx Court for some mechanism for this 2 categories of people. Those who are now remedial less, rather we can say remedial less due to operation of law and procedure. Thank you very much.


Hello, I'm Pukie, and I'm going to be walking you through today's session on using puppets and play to explore feelings. I hope you find it helpful. So idea number one that I shared is about roleplay, and this is because it's a lot less scary for children to explore difficult things that have happened to them or that might happen in the future or situations they feel that they're going to be facing when they do it in the third person. So we do it through roleplay through our puppets or through using characters in play. So we talk about they rather than I. So this is something we return to a lot. It's particularly beneficial if it can be done alongside an adult who's actually got a little bit of time to really hear the child's concerns and to begin to explore them. That's something that can happen at home. It's something that can happen at school, but it's really about having an adult there who's good at listening and hearing what the child has to say and picking up on those concerns. And worries and in terms of how to do it. We're just going to use our puppets or our little play figures or wherever it happens to be to kind of either replay something that's already happened or to imagine something that will. So think about how we're going to manage a new situation in the future. Just one little note here. It doesn't need to be that the figures or the puppets are particularly representative of the people or things involved in the situation.  They might, for example, decide that they today are Superman or Spider-Man if they're feeling strong or it might be that I don't know a person who scares them is represented by a dinosaur. Sometimes there are things that we might interpret and read into the choices of characters and puppets that a child makes. Sometimes they're totally random. So just kind of go with the flow. It's up to the choice. We want this to be child led wherever possible. In terms of how we actually make that happen, there are endless possibilities here. So don't be limited by my suggestions, but rather allow your imagination to flow, but a few things that you might try are so we can replay. We can actually get a child just to show us what's happened by replaying it using puppets or using toys to represent the different people and the situation involved. Now the thing here, this is not about we're not looking here to take this to court or anything like that. We just want to try and hear for a child what's gone on. Many of our kids aren't able to write down or talk to us about what's happened or perhaps have a particular incident where their behavior has been challenging to a member of staff or something like that. And they might not be able to explain to us what's happened, but they might be able to kind of show us or just work through what was happening that day using puppets or using play. Now it's not going to be a perfect retelling, nor do we want it to be. What we actually want to see here is the child's interpretation of what was going on. So we should not be looking to try and correct or fix. We might challenge occasionally if they're using language that's unkind about other people or things like that. But generally, we want to let them go with the flow and show us what they think happened and how they felt it and how they show it through play will often be very, very telling of their interpretation of a situation and we can often understand quite a lot there about particularly what's gone wrong if things have kind of escalated. We can use mind reading with our puppets and toys as well. So we might sometimes freeze frame a situation when they're showing us what happened in the classroom. So they might go, OK, let's pause the moment. Now let's just jump into the shoes of, I don't know, Mr Potato Head over here, who is representing your friend Simon. How do you think Simon felt at this moment? What was Simon going to do next and how was he thinking of feeling? Or let's step into Superman here, who is representing your art teacher. What do you think he was thinking at this point? Where was his mind and what did he think was going to happen next and how do you think he felt when X happened? So we kind of freeze frame when we jump into those sort of multiple points of view. And even if you're doing very simple kind of role play that might be between two different puppets interacting just every now and then, just stopping thinking, what do you think this puppet feels? How would this puppet feel if this puppet said X or did Y? And it can be really, really helpful just to jump into those different points of view. Really challenging for some children, but actually a really good skill to exercise trying to explore that kind of theory of mind and the way that different people think and trying to imagine the world from their point of view. And then finally, we can use our puppets and play to actually look ahead to the future. We might be exploring fear situations that come up often and thinking about how we might manage those situations, how we might cape and thrive in these situations, or we might use our puppets and play to explore a specific different situation that's coming up a change, a transition or a new experience that a child is going to have. And we can use our puppets and our play to think about how that situation might play out, the different eventualities that might happen. And in particular, we can then begin to unpick some of the worries that a child might have if they're anxious about a situation and do our if, then planning. So we explore with our puppets, with our play in a non-confrontational fun way, the different things that kind of could go wrong. And we say, OK, well, if that happens, then what could our puppets or our characters do? What might work here? And we use that again, that non-confrontational third person to explore the possibilities for the characters in our play situation. And hey, bingo, we've got something we can apply to this real life feared situation. Idea number two is around free play. Free play is amazing because it can allow a child to enter that beautiful state of flow where they are just joyful in the moment where time passes and days can go by and we don't even notice it's happened. This is amazing respite, particularly for our children who perhaps are neurodiverse or find day to day life a little bit more challenging than their peers. Being able to have that respite of joyful flow activities is just amazing and will make them much more energised for the rest of the day. So it can kind of relax and calm and help to regulate. So that is sometimes just reason enough, but also it's just fun. And it can be a really nice bond building activity to do with a child too. So we might think about who gets involved in this kind of place. The child might do it on their own, but we might bring in certain adults, particularly those with whom we are hoping to bond build. So again, great one if we've got new adults involved with the child and we're trying to build that trust playing alongside letting the child lead the play and really enjoying the flow of that play that is very child led, very, very bond building and again, great activity for parents and carers to get involved into if they feel able to. And how do we do it? Actually, this one's super simple. We just make the space, provide the toys and they don't have to be anything expensive, you know, a few sticks and some leaves and some mud is all that you need if you're outside inside just really whatever you can lay your hands on kids will naturally play if given space and feeling safe. They will play and then just let the child lead. Of course, you might have all sorts of fancy toys that you might use for free play and that's fabulous too, but just whatever you have, just give them space and give them permission to just let go and play. OK, and how do we actually make this work? So first of all, as an adult who has an interest in play and who might go and learn some of these skills and have some ideas about how to do it well and have practiced, if you can actually just let go and play alongside the child, then that can be really, really helpful to show them how to play because they might not have these skills and it might give them ideas about how to play and get them kind of started, get that spark going and also that can be super helpful for adults as to not all adults have learned to play, not all of them have had safe spaces in which they can learn these skills and so they're not able to support their child so well in this kind of free play. So you might sometimes get the adults involved too. And you're not going to say, this is how you play. Here's a lesson in playing. Some adults might invite that, but often actually they will just absorb watching you play alongside their child and then we begin to build their confidence. We start to draw them in, we start to get them involved and actually it's really confidence building for the adult as well as for the child and helps that bond building between adult and child. One thing to note here, if you're working with a family where the adults find it hard to play and they've not learned or they don't let go and they don't do it, then those bonds may well not be quite as secure between adult and child and so helping the adult to learn to play and getting them involved in that bond building activity of playing is such a brilliant thing that you can do and doesn't involve huge, huge skills and understanding on your part.  So in terms of like what else we need to do, so we're going to lead, we're going to just then provide the toys and the puppets and just be alongside. We don't necessarily need to join in with the play all the time. If we're requested, then we should join in. And sometimes if we if we want to support the play, we might ask particular questions or just drop in little seeds of ideas. We want the child to really lead the play wherever possible, but sometimes a little bit of prompting, a little bit of supporting, a little bit of guidance from us can help that play to continue and allow them to go a little bit deeper into the situation. So we might ask a question. Oh, what would happen if it rained next? I wonder what would happen if their friend came around to play at this point, you know, just asking interested, interesting questions. And then with free play, the other thing we can do is just notice. Don't use these free play moments as moments to go deeper, meaningful, necessarily with the child. If they're enjoying the play, just watch the play, notice it, take some notes and come back later. If there are certain people, places, themes, ideas that are coming up again and again in that free play and they will, these are the things that your child may find really, really helpful to explore with you at another point. So you might explore them through play, but not while they're really like going with the flow and really enjoying the play. We just notice and come back to those repeated themes. Idea number three is around using puppets and play for skills and language development. This can be used more generally, not just around exploring emotions and feelings and things, but actually for our children who've got particular sort of wellbeing and emotional type issues or situations they need to address. We can particularly zone in on those if we want to. More broadly though, it's important to note that those children who we might be providing extra support because they struggle with things like low confidence or self-esteem issues, or they've got other challenging stuff going on in their lives. Actually, you might use puppets and play and things to develop some of their basic skills around like number and letter because building those skills and that confidence gives them the springboard that they need to just generally become more confident and build their self-esteem and help them learn, I can and so on. So actually, this is a really massive kind of area and can be a really nice fun way that we can develop some really important skills with our children. When we develop skills and language through puppets and play, it feels a bit less scary for our children. It feels a bit more fun for us and we can often kind of keep going at it a little bit longer than we would otherwise. And children often don't even realise that they're learning, but they're learning so much.  So we can really lean into this, not just with those early years, but right up through play is a helpful way to learn at every age and stage, even with adults as well. So this is something that can work one to one. You can do it as like some more group interventions or even with kind of whole classes. And again, your imagination is your only limit here, really. And how do we do it? There's all sorts of different things here, but basically having a bit of an idea about what are the skills or the language of development needed by a particular child and then just try to identify particular games or puppets or types of play that might specifically support those skills and that language that is needed. How does this look in practice? So first of all, actually just watch a child play. So if they're in that free flow state of play, either alone or together, actually our job then can just become nurturing and noticing the desired behaviour. So if we've got a child who we know really needs to work on their sharing or their cooperative skills or their problem solving skills or they use some good language, we're just going to notice when this happens and we're going to praise them in a way that feels acceptable to that child. So we're going to notice it, we're going to praise it. It will naturally happen. We want to see more of it. So we're going to do what feels good for that child. We might write down, we might take pictures, we might do whatever feels good for them, but pick up on the specifics of what they did well and with our praise where we can, if it's acceptable, the child, we want to be spontaneous, notice it when it happens. We want to be specific. It was really good that you X, Y, Z. So not just that was good, but specifically tell them what was good and we want to be sincere. So don't say it unless we mean it because kids are detectives when it comes to our feelings. You can use all sorts of board games, number games, word games to nurture specific skills. There's a whole ton of very specific ones out there that are being developed all the time. You can make your own and actually making your own board games or word games or number games with children can be fun. You can do things like write on Jenga blocks to create questions or sums and that sort of thing as well. So you can create your own or you can just take games that you already really love and think about what skills might these be helping to develop and then really lean into them. When it comes to play, if you can take things that you like doing anyway, then that will really sort of inject that sense of fun and make it much more fun for you and the child so you're more likely to really get a lot from it. And then finally, we can use our puppets in particular, but also our little characters and things to develop our social scripts. So if a child's got a tricky time ahead or they've been through something that they found a bit challenging or it's kind of going round and around in their head, we can do our kind of role play using our puppets and then specifically think about the social scripts involved in those situations they're thinking about. What could they say next? What would be good words to use here and practice them? So it's really important that our children get confident using words that feel good for them and that they've had a chance to try them again and again and again so that when they actually really need to use them in a situation, they're able to kind of rely on kind of muscle memory and rehearsal to return to those words, to those scripts that they really need. So for example, you might have a child who's facing some really challenging friendship issues and they're just kind of going round in circles with this and they're not making good progress. So then we might use our puppets to explore these friendship issues and the puppets might think about different things that they could say. If the friend does X, what could the puppet say? And then the child will voice the puppet and they can practice saying whatever assertive or calming or helpful or other phrases that might be helpful for the puppet. Don't tell the child what to say, instead explore with them because what we're looking for in these kind of script type situations is not for the child to use your words because they won't and they'll feel uncomfortable, but rather for them to, with your help, develop their own words and then practice saying them. The best kind of scripts are the ones that we've created for ourselves that feel right in our mouths. So our job is not to tell, but rather to support and scaffold so that a child can create their own scripts. We might then rehearse, revisit, replay and practice this often. And if there is a particular live situation for a child, it's really worth revisiting that with the puppets again next time. So did this situation come up again? Did you try any of those scripts that we rehearsed last time and what happened? Oh, it didn't go quite to plan. Okay, maybe let's play it out and you can show me what did happen. And let's think about what we might do differently next time. Okay, at this point in the session is the moment when we pause and actually we try and turn the ideas into actions because this is the bit where I remind you, of course, that my gift to you are the ideas in the session, hopefully, and your gift to yourself and the children in your care is what you do next with them. So we looked at three things here with regards to puppets and play. We thought about how we can use them for role play to act out certain situations that have happened or might be going to happen. We thought about free play and how that can help a child enter a state of flow and can help to point us towards some of the things that might be on a child's mind that might need exploring at another time. And we thought about play and puppets as a particular way of developing the skills and language that a specific child might need to work on right now. So you can think about three things. One, what's already working well? What practice can be shared within the group? What can you cherry pick from each other and what could you be doing more of because you thought, on reflection, this is really great. More children could benefit from it or I could spend more time doing it. What could you try next? What ideas were sparked during the session and what are things that you could give a go as a result of something that I've suggested or something that you've discussed together or a spark that has happened whilst you've been doing the session? And then turn it into really, really practical next steps. Try to make them tiny. Think about something you could do tomorrow as a result of something that you have learnt today and commit to actually doing it.  A few resources here. So first of all, you might want to think about Play Do. We love Play Do in our house. I've got a little guide here about ways to use Play Do to get kids talking, which you may have access before. Next, if you can, then 100 Ways Your Child Can Learn Through Play is a really brilliant book one of my favourite books because I am not a natural player. And this book has so many different suggestions for play and how to use it really, really good for parents, really, really good for support staff and so on. Just for me, it provided a framework for play that may play feel much more accessible as a non-playful adult. So I'm very grateful to this book and it's just brilliant. It is specifically aimed at children with SEND but like so many things aimed at children with SEND it's just blooming brilliant and could be used for everyone. So I would really, really heavily recommend this book. And then in terms of listening, I did a beautiful podcast with a guy called Greg Botrill who also has like books and YouTube channel and all that kind of thing. He's great fun and he did a podcast with me all about play and how adults can let go of their adultness and play. So if like me, you're not a natural player, you might enjoy listening. And also just Greg was just so much fun. It's just a lovely lesson. He was one of the most fun, enthusiastic, joyful podcast guest I ever had. So worth a listen if you wanna just feel good. Okay, I hope that was helpful.


Good afternoon folks, this is Jacob Schup, filling in for Tom O'Brien. He will be back tomorrow. Take a look at what we've got going on today. We have the ES mini about flat today, the Russell up about 0.15 percent, NQ's again just down slightly 0.22 percent in the Dow futures of about 0.29. We kind of have a flat market today. Some of the bonds kind of going down in price. We'll talk a little bit about that and what that kind of means for rates going forward. We have Tesla, it kind of got eviscerated the other day up about 0.6 percent currently, but trading from about a monthly high of $265 down to $239. Steel Dynamics, down we were looking yesterday at about $120, kind of volatile right now at least for the price, down about 1.69 percent today. Take a look at some of the more base metals here. We have gold. That was actually trading up a bit, we're at 2,051 on the contract, and then silver really gave up a lot of its gains up from that peak of about $26.35. Trading right now at $23.22, copper staying pretty strong like that contract at $3.84. Crude oil, so there's a lot of stuff going on that's going to impact I think energy prices here. There's a lot of tension in the Red Sea. A lot of oil kind of moves through this area. We had the shipping giant Maersk resume shipping through there now, I mean a lot of supplies go through the Red Sea, so this tension's impact a lot of things, but oil will be number one in here. I think we're going to see a jump. We'll talk a bit about that. I get concerned with seeing this oil jump. Prices have actually been pretty low recently even at the pump for a lot of consumers, which is awesome. If there's anything that kind of gets impacted on the oil end here and prices go up, that's obviously going to skew the total CPI. That might cause some kind of reaction in a way that we don't all like, especially for holders. Let's take a little more of the dollar trading flat right now, we're at 102.43, looking probably to retest around the 103 area, a higher dollar, that gets a more depressed market, and we haven't seen a lot of movement in the way that we would like to see the dollar move. QQQ sideways, Google, down about 1.09%, Meta, pretty low, pretty sideways at least rather, about 347.28 Disney, down at 90, so we're trading down about a buck from yesterday, Apple at 182.47 in the spy, we're trading at 468.96. Let's take a look at the global market as a whole. The eurozone is anticipating pretty intense inflation. Inflation is still rising in the eurozone even though they believed that things were going to kind of pull back like we're seeing here. Now this is bringing some doubts over rate cuts. Of course, we're not the eurozone, but this does impact us in some capacity. Essentially, the French released their figures earlier this morning, was rising about 4.1%, which is okay, but that's up from 3.9% from November, so we are seeing an increase there. Germany is getting really hammered with it. It's about to be released here. It's going to be a jump, basically 3.8% from 2.3 in November. If we see this kind of spread out, we might have a more prolonged kind of stage of seeing rates going to get pulled back. We spoke about yesterday how the Fed is kind of thinking about we're going to reduce some rates. They didn't release kind of a roadmap for that. They said probably by the end of the year we'll have three-quarter point reductions, but still if you get something like we were talking about with oil comes in and prices get kind of skewed. Again, I know that's not the core CPI, but I think one of the things that bothers me about all of that is if core CPI is bad, but energy is lower for that reporting cycle, then it's a good thing. Obviously, if CPI in general is just high, but core CPI down, that's a good thing. There's this spin that exists that kind of just persists in the media, especially when CPI is released. I have a feeling that if, again, if energy gets a lot higher, this next kind of cycle, we might see some of that kind of euphoria coming from the talk about a pullback in rates kind of dissipate. We might see some sell-off. I'm not sure we'll have to wait to see on that. We'll take a look a little bit more about this. The oil contracts really are surging. Let's take a look here. Sideways right now, $7,223 in the Brent. Again, we just have a little bit of this tick up here. Yesterday, they were surging around 3%. There's obviously protests over high fuel prices, at least in Libya. This affects oil fuel production in Libya. That completely halted it entirely. There's ongoing concerns over Yemen's, the Houthis, which are backed by Iran. Of course, there are some issues with Iranian drones hitting some big shipments, essentially. This whole area is under a lot of intensity. And again, if this gets impacted, these trade routes get impacted, we might see a bad total CPI going forward. Take a look here. We're going to look at Ford, just for some other news during the day, up about 7.1% in the U.S., vehicle sales rather. Best year since 2019 for Ford. The sales increased about 7% last year, marking the automakers' best sales since 2020, coming in lower than the overall industry's growth. Ford on Thursday reported sales of nearly 2 million vehicles in 2023, which is a 7.1% increase from the previous year. The company finished third in overall U.S. sales. That is trailing Toyota and General Motors. Ford's overall 2023 sales are lower than the industries, which Autodata firms topped about 15.6 million total of last year. Of course, we've been seeing Ford try to get into the electric vehicle area. Again, I think some of these old kind of traditional vehicle makers are going to have a hard time pivoting away, because their infrastructure isn't really focused on that. Volkswagen has been doing a good job. We'll talk a little bit about them in the coming segments. They're a deal with quantum scope, and these guys make a solid-state lithium battery. We'll talk a little bit about that, but it was actually majorly successful. This was positive for Volkswagen. Quantum escape went up, like, let me see here. Yeah, almost 50% today. So we'll talk a little bit about why that is and what that kind of technology, how that plays a role, and how it may impact other companies like Tesla and so on. So folks, stay tuned. We'll be right back.


Welcome back to the third annual Vail Scientific Summit. Recently I chatted with Dr. Laura Niedernhofer and her husband, Paul Robbins, both with the Scripps Research Institute. And I chatted with them about what it's like to be a married couple working in the world of regenerative medicine and anti-aging. I'll let you start. Go ahead. Yeah. So we're trying to understand two aspects of aging. One is the basic biology of what drives aging. Why is it that we age at the rate we do? And then secondly, we're trying to develop ways to intervene with that process so that we can actually slow down the aging process and potentially even reverse that. And we've been doing this all in mouse models, but the goal now is to be moving this towards the clinic. So, and the real idea behind that is aging is of course the number one risk factor for virtually every chronic degenerative disease and cancer as well. So if we could therapeutically target the aging process itself, then we could really attenuate or prevent all of these diseases at once. So that's the long-term goal. So it's been a very complementary relationship in this because we both have our strengths and weaknesses in science, both have our strengths and weaknesses in our private lives. And so it's actually been just wonderful. We spend 24 hours a day together. We're usually at work seven days a week. We're at home. We're talking about our research and directions we're going. I'm much more the 30-foot-thousand-view guy, and she's the one who deals with the details, both at work and at home. And that has led to a very successful partnership all the way around. Yeah, great. It's been great. And what's really fun, too, is I think we both entered the aging field at the same time. So this was about 10, 12 years ago. And it certainly wasn't on anybody's radar screen at that time. So I feel like we got in on the ground floor, although we were already standing on the shoulders of giants. But we came from very different perspectives. So Paul has a strong background in autoimmune diseases, understanding immunology, the orthopedic background. And I came from understanding damage that could drive aging and how we get rid of it in our cells. So it has been extremely complementary. Yeah, so one of the things that we've shown over the last five years, and we being more of myself but others in the field, is that as we age, we acquire damaged cells in our body. And that these damaged cells, which are termed senescent cells, actually are bad. They release bad factors that not only age locally a tissue, but they age the whole body systemically. So one of the things we're working on is to develop ways we could kill these bad cells specifically.  And then mice and then clinical trials, which are starting, the periods of clearing these cells does extend healthy aging. And we're hopeful that this will lead to a new paradigm of how we treat aging in humans. So I would just add to that our job at Scripps, I think, is to develop a drug pipeline. So what's really holding back the field of aging right now is the FDA says, well, how are you going to treat aging because it's not a disease? So we've had to create with a lot of colleagues a pathway that we could actually get these drugs into people. So the first clinical trial designed to treat aging has been designed and approved by the Food and Drug Administration. So that'll be initiated this year. So we want to have a very robust pipeline of drugs that can go in right behind this proof of principle clinical trial. So we've got these synolytics that Paul was talking about. We also have drugs that can target pathways that sort of get activated and angry when you have damage. And so I think we have kind of a pretty robust panel of drugs and thought processes about how we're going to slow aging once we're allowed to try it. Right. So I started off working in muscle skeletal diseases. So looking at osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, muscle wasting, even work in cystic fibrosis. And one of the things I realized after spending 15 or 20 years working on these different diseases, isolated diseases, is that the same mechanisms, the same pathways were driving each one of these diseases. So a single drug would work in multiple models of disease. And we started to realize, well, the driving force behind all these diseases were actually processes that drove aging. And so a new concept that came out the last five or 10 years is a concept of geroscience, which is that you treat the root cause of disease, and that root cause of disease is aging. So by slowing aging, you could either prevent onset or delay onset of a whole myriad of age-related conditions. And so it was like an aha moment. It's like, what am I doing studying visual diseases? I'll study the underlying cause of every one of these diseases. But I'd add that the honest answer is turning 50. And you realize everything that comes with it. But, and then the other thing is kind of being the geeky little kids that we all were when we went into research, medicine, we wanted to change the world. And we wanted to have an impact that would be translated to people. And right now, aging is the number one biomedical problem on this planet without question. So it's being equated to when we discovered sanitation and penicillin. And all of a sudden people, their life spans doubled basically because they weren't dying of infectious diseases as children. And so aging, now we have an aging population instead of young sick children. So we've really got to tackle this. Yeah. So we try not to talk about lifespan because the goal is not to make people live longer, is to make them live healthier. So we're trying to compress the period of morbidity and the life period when everything starts to fail. You like to be healthy until you're on the golf course and have a heart attack at the age of 100. So we're not trying to extend lifespan. Now, if you extend health span, one of the benefits may be that you'll live longer. But that's not the end point that we're striving towards. It's healthier living. In fact, the way they articulate it for the clinical trials is it's all about reducing, as Paul said, these multiple morbidities with a single drug. But the side effect may be that you get a few more years of life. So not not the main goal, but just the side effect. If I could just just add because one of the end points of clinical trials for aging is actually cancer. So people never really think of cancer as an age related disease. But the highest risk factor for most cancers is aging. So this isn't just going to be osteoarthritis. It's going to be cardiovascular disease. This is actually going to be approaches to delay or even prevent certain types of cancer. So this will have wide ranging applications. When the focus of the summit has been on aging, because I think Johnny, who's the organizer of the meeting, is realizing that aging is an important component of many of the things he's working on. So he's he drank the Kool-Aid and has been convinced that this should be a focus because many researchers have spent their careers doing analysis in young mice. It's just easy or or young animals or but yet what the people were treating in the clinic are usually older. So I think everybody has started to realize we have to be looking at what goes on with aging. Luckily, many people at this symposium are really collaborating with and those who are not, I think, will leave here with new collaborations and new directions. So it's been a very exciting symposium. When I would add to that, aging is complicated. I mean, it really affects every organ system.  So it's great to meet face to face with people who are dealing with bone or muscle or cartilage, all of which are affected with aging. So then we can share our expertise and say, hey, shouldn't you be measuring this and could you help me measure that? So I have to say this summit has been really valuable to me because I've met new colleagues that will change the course of my research. So I've got a new collaborator to work on disc degeneration, another one to work on bone and then exercise physiology. So it's been very exciting. Yeah, because the unique aspect of this symposium is is bringing clinicians, the top clinicians together with top basic researchers. And that doesn't usually happen. And so this interface between basic science and clinical science, it's always been the Valley of Death and research. So we treat mice, but then never makes into humans. And so the value of this symposium is bringing these two groups together. And then hopefully continuing to work together, not just me and Vale for four days, but continuous, we leave Vale to continue to collaborate. So it's a very exciting time.