Live from San Francisco, it's theCUBE, covering Informatica World 2017, brought to you by Informatica. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here live in San Francisco for theCUBE's exclusive coverage of Informatica World 2017. I'm John Furrier. This is SiliconANGLE's flagship program. We go out to the events, extract the signal from the noise. My next guest is Jatesh Guy, who's the Vice President General Manager of Data Quality and Governance for Informatica. Welcome to theCUBE. Thanks for joining us today. Happy to be here, John, pleasure. So two things right out of the gate. One, data quality and governance. Two of the hottest topics in the industry. Never mind within Informatica. You guys are announcing a lot of stuff. Customers are here pretty happy. You get a solid customer base. That's right. Product's been blooming.  This is important. This is laws now in place coming online in 2018. I think it's the GDPR. That's right. And there's a variety of other things. But more importantly, we've got all of their data. That's right. What's your take, and what are you announcing here at the show? Well, so, you know, from a data governance and compliance and overall quality standpoint, data governance started off as a stick, a threat of regulatory pressure. But really the heart of what it is is effective access to and consumption of data, trusted data. And through that exercise of the threat of a stick, healthy practices have been implemented and that's resulted in an appreciation for data governance as a carrot, as an opportunity to innovate. Innovate with your data to develop new business models. The challenge is as this maturation and the practice of data governance has happened, there's been a realization that there's a lot of manual work. There's a lot of collaboration that's required across functional matrix to organization of stakeholders.  I got all this data, I did it this way before. Right. And now, whoa, the pressure's on to make data work, right? I mean, that's the big thing. That's exactly right. So you collaborate, you align, and you agree on what data matters and how you govern it. But then you ultimately have to stop documenting your policies, but actually make it real, implement it. And that's where the underlying data management stack comes into place. Now that could be making it real for regulatory, financial regulations like BCBS239 and CICAR, where data quality is essential. It could be making it real for security-related regulations where protection is essential, like GDPR, the data protection regulation in the EU. And that's where Informatica is launching a holistic enterprise data governance offering that enables you to not just document it. Or as one CDO said to me, at some point you got to stop talking about it. You actually have to do it. To connecting the conceptual, the policies, with the underlying physical systems, which is where intelligent automation with the underlying data management portfolio, the industry-leading data management portfolio that we have really delivers significant productivity benefits. It's really redefining the practice of data governance. Yeah, I mean, most people think of data as being one of those things that's been kind of like whether it's healthcare, HIPAA, old models. It's always been an excuse to say, well, we don't do it that way or hey, it's kind of in a no-op kind of thing where no, we don't want to do any more than data. But you guys introduced Clare, which is the acronym for the clairvoyant or AI. It's kind of a clever weighted brand. That's going to bring in machine learning, augmented intelligence and cool things. That only to me feels like you're speeding things up. That's exactly right. When in reality, governance is more of a slowdown. So how do you blend the innovation strategy of making data freely available? Right. And yet managing the control layer of governance because governance wants to go slow. Right. Clare wants to go fast. You know. And, you know. Help me explain that. Well, you know, in short, sometimes you have to go slow to go fast, right? And that's the heart of what our automated intelligence that Clare provides in the practice of data governance is to ensure that people are getting access to efficient access to trusted data and consuming it in the right context. And that's where you can set, you can define a set of policies, but ultimately you need those policies to connect to the right data assets within the enterprise. And to do that, you need to be able to scan an entire enterprise's data sets to understand where all the data is and understand what that data is. So talk about the silver bullet that everyone just wants to buy, the answer to the test, which is un-gettable by the way, I believe. We just had a lead just on one of your customers. And their differentiation to their competition is that they're using data as an asset, but they're not going all algorithmic. There's the human data relationship. So there's really no silver bullet in data. You can use algorithms like machine learning to speed things up and work on things that are repeatable tasks. Talk about that dynamic, because governance can be accelerated with machine learning, I would imagine, right? Absolutely, absolutely. Governance is a practice of ensuring an understanding across people, processes, and systems. And to do that, you need to collaborate and define what are the people, what are your processes, and what are the systems that are most critical to you? Once you've defined that, it's, well, how do we connect that to the underlying data assets that matter? And that's where machine learning really helps. Machine learning tells you that if you define customer ID as a critical data element through machine learning, through Clare, we are able to surface up everywhere in your organization where customer ID resides. It could be CMD ID, it could be customer underscore ID, it could be customer space ID, cost ID. Those are all the inferences we can make, the relationships we can make, and surface all of that up so that people have a clear understanding of where all these data assets reside. Chetesh, let's take a step back. I want to get your thoughts on this because I really want you to take a minute to explain something to the folks watching. So there's a couple different use cases that at least I've observed and the Wikibon team has certainly observed. Some people have an older definition of governance. What's the current definition from your standpoint? What should people know about governance today that's different than just last year or even a few years ago? What's the new picture? What's the new narrative for governance and the impact of business? You know, it's a great question. I held a CDO summit in February. We had about 20 chief data officers in New York and I just had held an informal survey. Who implements data governance programs for regulatory reasons?  And then I followed that up with who implements data governance programs to positively affect the top line and everybody put their hand up. That's the big transition that's happened in the industry is a realization that data governance is not just about compliance. It's also about effective policies to better understand your data, work with your data and innovate with your data, develop new business models, support your business in developing those new business models so that you can positively affect the top line. Another question we get up on theCUBE all the time that we also observe and we heard this here from other folks at Informatic and your customers is that getting to know what you actually have is the first step. Right. Which sounds counterintuitive but reality is that a lot of folks realize as an asset opportunity they raise their hand, top line revenue, I mean who's not going to raise their hand on that one, right, get fired. But the reality is this train's coming down the tracks pretty fast. Data as an input into value creation. That's exactly right. So now the first step is, oh boy, I just signed up for that, raised my hand, know what the hell do I have? Right. How do you react that? What's your perspective on that? And that's where you need to be able to Google index the internet to make it more consumable. Actually, a few search engines index the internet. Google came up with sophistication through its page ranking algorithm. Similarly, we are cataloging the enterprise and through Clare we're making it so that the right relevant information is surface to the right practitioner. And that's the key. Accelerating the access method so increase the surface area of data, have the control catalog for the enterprise which is like your Google search analogy. Harder than searching the internet. But even Google's not even doing a great job these days. My opinion, I should say that. But there's so many new data points coming in. So I get that. So now the follow up question is, okay, it's really hard when you start having IoT come in or gesture data or any kind of data coming in. How do you guys deal with that? How does that rock your world? So as they say. And that's where effective consumption of data permeates across big data, cloud, as well as streaming data. We have implemented, in service to governance, we've implemented in stream data quality rules to filter out the noise from the signal in sensor data coming in from aircraft subsystems as an example. That's a means of, well first you need to understand what are the events that matter? And that's a policy definition exercise which is a governance exercise. And then there's the implementation of filtering events in real time so that you're only getting the signal and avoiding the noise. That's another IoT example. What's your big, take your Informatica hat off, put your industry citizen hat on and what's your view of the marketplace right now? What's the big wave that people are riding? Obviously data, you can say data, don't say data because we know that already. What's your people, what do you observe out there that the marketplace is different? That's changing very rapidly. Obviously we see Amazon stock going up, like a hockey stick, obviously cloud is there. What are you getting excited about these days? You know, what I'm excited about is bringing broad based access of data to the right users in the right context. And why that's exciting is because there's an appreciation that it's not the analytics that are important, it's the data that fuels those analytics that's important.  Hence the argument, data or algorithms, which one's more important? Right, well. I mean data is more important than algorithms because algorithms need data. That's exactly right, and that's even more true when you get into non-deterministic algorithms, when you get into machine learning. Your machine learning algorithm is only as good as the data you train it with. I mean, look, I mean, machine learning is not a new thing. Unsupervised machine learning is getting better. Right. But that's really where the compute comes in. Now you can, and the more data you have, the more modeling you can do, I mean, these are new areas that are kind of coming online. So the question is to you is, what new exciting areas are energizing some of these old paradigms? We hear neural nets. I mean, Google just announced neural nets that teach neural nets to make machine learning easier for humans. Right. Okay, I mean, that's a little bit inside computer science baseball, but you're seeing machine learning now hitting mainstream. What's the driver for all this? The driver for all of this comes down to productivity and automation. It's productivity and automation with autonomous vehicles. It's productivity and automation that's now coming into smart homes. It's productivity and automation that is being introduced through data-driven transformation in the enterprise as well. Right, that's the driver. It's so funny.  Wow, hot that. And now it's like the hottest thing, being a data guy. Right. And what's also interesting is a lot of the computer science programs have been energized by, you know, this whole software defined with cloud native because now they have unlimited potentially compute power. Right. What's your view on the young generation coming in? As you look to hire and you look to interview people, what are some of the disciplines that are coming out of the universities and the master's programs that are different than it was even five years ago? What are the trends you're seeing in the young kids coming in? What are they gravitating towards?  There is an increasing growing culture around being data-driven. But from a background of young people, it's from a variety of backgrounds. Of course, computer science, but philosophy majors, arts majors in general, all in service to the larger cause of making information more accessible, democratizing data, making it more consumable. I think AI, in my, I agree by the way, I would just add, I think AI, although it's hyped and I kind of don't really want to burst that bubble because it's really promoting software. I mean, AI is giving people a mental model of, oh my God, this is pretty amazing, things are happening. I mean, Toronto's vehicles is what most people point to and say, hey, wow, that's pretty cool. A Tesla's much different than a classic car.  Right, exactly. There's a no brainer. Right. Except for the like chisel part you got to get it installed. But again, that's going to change pretty quickly. At this point it's becoming a table stakes exercise. If you're not innovating, if you're not applying intelligence in AI, you're not doing it right. All right, final question. What's your advice to your customers who are in the trenches? They raise their hand, they're committed to the mandate, they're going down the digital business transformation route. They recognize that data is at the center of the value proposition and have to rethink and reimagine their businesses. What advice do you give them in respect to how to think architecturally about data?  So ensure that that's trusted data. Ensure that that's data you agree as an organization upon, not as a functional group, right? The definition of a customer in support is different from the definition of a customer in sales versus marketing. It's incredibly important to have a shared understanding and alignment on what you are defining and what you're reporting against because that's how you're running your business. So the old schema concept, the old database world, know your types. Right. But then you got the unstructured data coming in as well. That's a tsunami, IOT coming in. Sure, sure. That's going to be undefined, right? And the goal and the power of AI is to infer and extract metadata and meaning from this whole landscape of semi-structured and unstructured data. So you have the opinion, I'm sure you're biased with being informatic about it. Let's say it.  Well, or is that? It's a nuance. You can't collect everything, but you can collect the metadata of everything. Metadata is important. Data that describes the data is what makes this achievable and doable, practically implementable. Shitesh Guy here, sharing the metadata. We're getting all the metadata from the industry, sharing it with you here on theCUBE. I'm John Furrier here, live at Informatica World 2017, exclusive CUBE coverage. It's our third year. Go to SiliconANGLE.com, check us out there, and also wikibon.com for our great research. YouTube.com slash SiliconANGLE for all the videos, more live coverage here at Informatica World in San Francisco after this short break. Stay with us.


flourished exactly because as i said yesterday by the end of this month sunset and sunrise will be in and around seven so it's a 12 hour of sunlight but i think that the night's drawing in will really bring home the fact we're heading into autumn again but there's still lots to be done uh continuing to tidy up the beds uh layer of mulch yes layer of mulch helps this time of year it just keeps it fair and sort of keeps everything looking tidy as much as anything else sort of keeps the weeds down as well yeah so it does and there's a good time to give all these sort of the beds we trim back and any gaps maybe fill it in with some new new plants a good time to plant the new stuff and of course too uh with an eye on spring no sooner will it be halloween then it will be christmas and then it'll be spring now's the time to be planning for that as well yes very much now is the time for your spring bulbs so it is sort of easy the shops and garden centres of the month starting to get fold on them um very good plants for it very easy to grow pretty much throw them in the ground forget about them and up to come in the spring time absolutely so you do the bit of effort now towards the end of the summer and then you get this lovely surprise then come spring yep exactly outdoors in the ground or on pot yeah works perfectly so it does and very good value for money like you'll won't get to sort of as good a flower at that time of year for as cheap as the ones that we've got like i say not a lot of work to them just throw them in it's just a bit of planning isn't it pretty much um speaking of pots uh is it time now to give up on our summer flowers and maybe if either retire them or think about what to plant for winter yeah pretty much a lot of them are still going you see the sort of towns there like i was in bon crana yesterday and even Larry Kenny the towns are still looking amazing with all the flowers so they are so a lot of them still going if they are starting to flag about the sort of that good week actually brought them sort of spurred them back into life a bit but now if they are starting to flag about on you the stuff's kind of the winter stuff's coming available now in garden centres and stuff so if you wanted to redo around the door basically now is the time and they can still look pretty with a bit of colour absolutely you won't get the same sort of show as you would for the summer but you will get actually uh they can be lovely looking so for the over the more depressing water once i'm staying with pots um if they're on the ground you want to be lifting them up now do you pretty much from now on it's a good idea sometimes there's sort of drainage holes in the bottom can get blocked sort of we sort of just dirt on the ground and stuff like that so it's a good idea at this time you'd actually raise them up just an inch or so even you get sort of specific pot feet for the job but if you haven't got them just any wee bits of timber at all any just to raise them up we bit to allow the water to drain out of them more easily now for those lucky enough to have a lawn that probably have one eye on maybe the last cut of the year um but in terms of of maintenance what should people be doing now uh pretty much just maintain the cutting and see how you get on it should still be growing still quite milder so it should be growing quite well um i noticed yesterday the leaves are sort of starting to turn starting to come down a wee bit so just every couple of weeks if you go out and just rake the leaves off it'll sort of stop moss building up on the other problem with the lawns now though is whilst they're still growth it's harder to find a window particularly if you've got like a domestic lawn mower whereby the grass is you know dry that it's not a complete torture exactly now it gets tougher to mow with this time of year because it's just you don't get them that amount of dry days and spray hard to collect basically yeah all right and what about um keeping the lawn clear of leaves and all to prevent the moss but what about feeding the lawn for next year feeding the lawn now at this time of year you can use sort of a like be like more low nitrogen fertilizer you get autumn blends for this time of year but what it does it actually builds up the strength of the grass without growing it on too much so it's actually we'll just keep it green over the winter months i get you by the way just keep your calls coming in to us uh if you want to ask paul a question oh wait six sixty twenty five thousand uh what's up with texture if you want to actually ask him at yourself all seven four nine one twenty five thousand um in terms of the trends you know we do go through trends uh from plants and what have you uh so what's in trend at the moment and this is is this for the autumn winter season or heading in towards the spring and summer of next year pretty much autumn winter sort of gardens can be very fashionable sort of you look to like the chelsea flower show and that's for what's going to be coming for the next year or two very much in fashion but big grasses there's sort of had been out of fashion for a while it seemed to come back in now in a big way the sort of like fluffier grasses and that uh that there the likes of autumn plants you always get the dailies are always popular so they are and you get big flowery plants that got them and uh rubectia the but it cuts the black eye season very popular at this time of year so they are just for that wee bit of autumn color all right and we were talking earlier on about planting your spring bulbs uh if you have a veg patch or you want to establish one uh what would you need to be looking at now um in in terms of you know for crops that will will flourish over the winter or yeah stuff that goes well over the winter um sort of there's members of the cabbage family you can stick in now now's perfect time for putting in your onions and garlic only good annual of a good sort of early march on them in the spring and even peas and beans work quite well at this time of year all right so if you get them in now again and you plant your plant your spring bulbs over spring your onion your garlic your peas your beans and then your flowers will start to welcome you into the late spring early summer you should be sort of starting your harvest almost and then you can plant more in the spring time and you have a more continuous supply if you know what I mean yeah I'd love to know when to prune my three-year-old pear tree it has got very tall in leaky it's still got a few pears that aren't ripe yet yes um I would leave it at the stage until the pears until you sort of take the pears off it and even you can leave it until it actually the leaves come off as well then you get a better idea of the framework of the tree so um pretty much from three years old now you could actually be pruning from now on all right but wait till the fruit is I would wait till the leaves come off it almost and just give you a better idea you can see the sort of structure of the tree and sort of if you google it even there are a few different good examples of how you prune them basically what's the best time to plant a whole thorn tree hot thorn tree um you plant what he called the hot thorn trees generally are available sort of in what's known as the bare root season which tends to be it's there's no exact date for it because it's after the first hard frost but generally you're looking from the first of December to about the first April and when's the earliest you can move roses once again the same thing more or less it's in that bare root season where the plants dormant you can actually dig them up and move them at that stage so generally like I say the dates aren't exact but generally around the first of December then but the first April how do you treat white mills you in a climber rose organically if possible and oh you tend to generate if you can favor the organic approach yes um the do climb rows first and climb rows have actually been affected badly with this year I think it has to do with the plant drying out earlier on the year which sort of the dry spell we had earlier on the summer probably is resulting just manifesting itself now almost but the best thing to do with it would be now coming into whenever finish flowering let's give it a good hard cut back and actually remove all the infected branches and leaves and take them away don't put them in your compost heap or anything just take them away and dispose of them far from the plant and if you want to do during the growing season one of the leaves it's on the reckon skim milk it's quite good at actually spraying on skim milk it's good at actually um getting rid of mulchew on a lot of plants especially in top hydronals and stuff that looks like someone figured that out uh Greg would you mind asking Paul where I could buy snow drop bulbs uh snow drops balladare garden center would be my first choice so it would be but generally generally any garden center around would would have them we have them down there at the manadoras yeah and why are they called so what what what kind of plant are they uh snow drops will we sort of spring bulb be sort of the first out right okay at least uh whenever you have a big mass and just it looks like ground leg snow uh what do you do with yellow patches on the lawn after mowing it uh is it moss should I rake it uh and then what should I do uh bring green finger jerry message that one yellow finger jerry at the moment but um the generally it can be a number of problems causing that it could be sort of it could be moss and probably the most likely one all right if you would um sort of otherwise sometimes some of the leather jackets that can be a problem as well but the best thing to do would be give it a light rake at this time of year remove any moss any debris on it and give it a good feed we're not okay uh would you trim a holly or just not cut it down I'll think that's coming back to me superstitions so it does have no generally a wee trim wouldn't be so bad so it would but no definitely wouldn't risk that either uh maybe it's just a being in autumn but how do I get rid of slugs and snails in my garden I hate them paul I hate them yes um slugs and snails at the moment probably vigilance is the one sort of remove them as you see them but some people can't act that in terms of the the squeamish nature of it um once you get to do it organically you'd be chatting uh probably your beer traps your milk traps it'd be quite good in terms of just put a like berry a saucer around the plant and hopefully they'll be attracted to the scent of the beer or the milk and falling and it's not really that's just like taking them out of the situation pretty much you can get organic pellets to kill them as well they wouldn't be as bad as the old toxic chemicals you used to get they just work and dry in them out but some people are pretty much they're organic they're certified organic so they should be perfect don't worry can you come in I put that note it's in the bottom of that box somewhere I'll never find it thank you uh no matter how much I cut back my wisteria it goes on the rampage any advice probably very near the bottom um wisteria first of all look at you a lot of people a wisteria can be quite hard to grow and a lot of people would be only too delighted to have that problem but in general wisteria is a quite it's a climate plant so it can be quite vigorous number gets established so generally we sort of light trim and spring not too late because you're risk of cutting off the flowers basically and after the plant is funny flower and give it a good hard cut back yeah okay what is it you like about donnie gall or love about donnie gall pole I suppose I'm sort of we're very lucky in terms of I do a lot of deliveries around the place now and you're getting to see lovely spots every so often so you are just just a scenery in general it is just nice I mean obviously you're doing for work it's nice if you get the space actually just to take off yes and explore right because you never know where you might end up do you yeah funny it was actually sunday was doing maternity there and looked out the window where we're staying there no big massive stag just sitting on the sitting out in the front garden and a lot of people a lot of people wouldn't like that I know but it's funny the stags we have a funny relationship with them because a lot of people like are you know leave the leave the deer alone and and you know better signposting or better fencing or whatever it might be you know what I mean I think we do have a lot of the deer I think absolutely I'd say maybe for for for town folk like me seeing them sort of novelty if you're sitting here if you're looking at them every day maybe it's a different story yeah perhaps perhaps all right thanks very much Donna Marie right okay to celebrate love 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happy love donna gall day tracy lynch thank you so much at the flip side of it it just comes in after that love donna gall it's fantastic 179.8 for diesel this is madness it is madness and it's not gonna go up again it seems a lot of what we're seeing in terms of increase over the last wee while has been um has been government returning uh excise onto the fuel which is putting people under an awful lot of pressure it's amazing how your fill of a tank can go from like 75 to 95 do you know what i mean we talk about liters and now i know most people don't fill the tank but it's when you do that you really see uh how expensive it has become right 08 660 25 000 it's been a really busy day in the phones and we really do appreciate it that's open to you for all of the conversations we're having today whether you want to enter our love donna gall competition and you can call us as well by the way now some of you don't text 07 4 9 1 25 000 or if you just want to keep the conversation uh going with us on all the topics the lines are open for that as well right uh greg i'm an elderly person an elderly man living near st johnston i'm greatly upset with the amount of potholes outside my home i have two grandchildren who like most young ones love adventure and play but with the rate of the cars and the danger of the potholes they can no longer play outside i had a fence put up but this also fell down due to the state of the road i contacted the council recently four months ago and they told me they would be out to me that friday never heard also from them since they ignore my calls emails even go up to the yard as it's close but uh close by but i'm told someone will come out i understand they're extremely busy but i'm scared of an accident happening outside my home and an elderly man my garden is also now filled with stones i am just disappointed and worry especially for my children on my grandchildren now we have um we have uh made our inquiries in relation to that and i think you also have a local representative that's talking uh about that all right uh liam margine why how are you hello thanks for a guy i'm peeping fine it's a beautiful day here in bunkrana and you're a very proud bunkrana man liam i have to say i'm a very proud bunkrana man it's um a town that um i left it for a number of years but i returned in recent years and i've found a wonderful town to live on there's so much good going on in this town um i recently held um coffee mornings for charities and one was for the earthquake in turkey that's area way back and uh we realized 8 000 euro a great generosity in the town and i had one reason to therefore diabetes and that raised 1500 and uh you know the the people are very kind i find that i'm generous um no problem getting any support uh either by like offering a spot prize for a draw or any and supporting the day itself the coffee morning but in general run of things uh people are quite quite friendly you know chatty good humorge um to quite a number of people from outside the town living in the town and it tends from the end that the lord live in here and the lord the interaction they have with the local people and so on and it's a happy spirit really generally in the town um if you want to so that's the town that's the people uh in and around bunkrana what do you like to do where do you like to go well i i i do a lot of uh i've been involved with other groups here in bunkrana and involved in the swimming groups and i'm involved in uh rambling groups and involved in a wildlife group and a running group so so much you could take part in here in bunkrana uh you know i'm involved in all those groups uh and i find this a very busy um and i love the swimming in particular uh we have lovely beaches around here we'd love to reach a dead point for a group of us to go in swimming practically every day throughout the year um the point swimmers are called and uh there's also the swilly swimmers and it's a it's very lovely to swim there and there's a you can dive off the uh the little pier that's there and it will come and show you that was out very pleasant and then there's a lovely little beach further on called portals which is lovely place to lie down and if you want to sunday it's just it's i would call it my heaven and a lot of people would agree with me it's better than spain you say like living is it even better i i i think so if you get a nice day it's generally very quiet but when the weather improves crowds come and or not many crowds never that crowded and there's a love there's a bigger beach further on calls to gull beach and that's it people come there too and then there's more beaches further on out linsford beach leanin beach there's no one to lovely beaches nearby and uh so it's just a lovely a lovely place to live and the people walk out by hegodes rock which is a very very popular place to walk to as well around here and he's a he's a strand he's a strand park uh strand park uh swan park sorry as well and a huge investment a huge investment going into bunkrana as well huge investment is going into bunkrana that's a beautiful park swan park and people it's a very family friendly park families can go there and enjoy the park especially on a good and people fish in the river it's it's it was a marvelous job that was done recently with swan park schmidt's garden worked on there by the town gardener it really looks very very nice um lovely park lovely lovely park and uh it's the whole the whole area around here is very nice you know and uh so we don't have anything you know we're not lacking in in scenery or in facilities you know well it's clear that you are an incredible uh incredibly proud bunkrana man and uh we appreciate you coming on and spreading the love Liam oh thank you thank you very much you've sold a big time it is a beautiful part of the world more of them coming in here love donnie gall uh donnie gall is the best county it's people places and things to do bird watching canoeing cinema theater shopping great garden centers and swimming snorkeling on our beautiful beaches snorkeling indeed yeah uh donnie gall's the nicest place in the world glenn vay is our favorite place to be indeed i'm a recent relatively recent last few years visiting glenn vay beautiful love the staff out there too i love donnie gall because of the way we do our wakes and funerals when someone we love passes away it's so friendly and warm we support one another in time of need and are always there for one another that comes in from joce and joce that's a really good point you know and sometimes i think the way we do things we presume it's done the same everywhere but not always and i think particularly we are uh we are there for each other molly says my hometown remelton nowhere like it and if anyone's visiting there's johnny's ranch it's a must fish and chop uh fish and chips to die for you'll be glad you paid johnny's a visit and you'll get the personal touch that comes in from molly who might be johnny i don't know but anyway it's a great ad for the place uh bobby narn beach heaven on earth and mary says also aron moore uh all beautiful places all right keep them coming into us 086 60 25 000 086 60 25 000 watch the show live now on youtube facebook and at highland radio dot com the nine till noon show with letter kenny credit union now offering mortgages from 40 000 to 600 000 euro with no hidden fees or transaction charges letter kenny credit union 9102127 there's always a feeling of anticipation when you sit into a new car that excitement you admire its smooth lines it's class leading technology it's spacious interior you find yourself sitting comfortably in a sculpted seat you can sense this one is different it's electric charged with attitude pumped with energy you've made the right choice the opal mocha electric test driver today at heron otto opal see heron opal dot are you for details fancier game of bingo play at strand bingo strand 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reps and much more if you have a group for training syftec will go to you contact syftec today at syftec dot ie and take the first step towards upskilling and safety compliance text or whatsapp your view to greg on 086 60 25 000 now last week we spoke to uh granja who uh went through an awful experience with her husband her husband is really quite ill uh with cancer and they made the trip from the west of the county into letter kenny university hospital uh with the expectation i suppose that they would spend maybe a short time in ed and then be moved to the oncology ward but that didn't happen and they had to leave even though they were said you could wait in the car but that wasn't suitable because our husband michael i believe it was in was in so much pain uh so they returned home and then he had to then return by ambulance a few short hours later another prolonged wait before being put into a what seemed like a children's bed and eventually got a bed on a ward and it went on and on and on uh right so we got in contact with selta who over two paragraphs said they can't comment on individual cases we understand that but it says letter kenny university hospital deep regrets that any patient has to wait a long time in the emergency department like hospitals around the country we're extremely challenged by a sustained increase in demand and a lack of available beds the ed continues to be extremely busy with high numbers of patients attending many of whom present with complex needs requiring admission ed patients are waiting a long time to be admitted to a bed and we apologize to patients and their families for the upset this is causing it's not just upset but okay patient safety they say is at the forefront of everything we do and staff prioritize to ensure critical needs are met we regret that any patients has experienced long wait times every effort's being made to discharge patients who are ready to go home so that beds will become available for patients who need to be admitted at the earliest opportunity luh introduced an acute oncology services in february 2021 with the appointment of a clinical nurse specialist the service is available monday to friday 8 a.m to 5 30 unfortunately this service is not currently available out of ours patients who are actively on cancer treatment are given the alert card with the contact details with the mobile number bleep for the acute oncology clinical nurse specialist and advised to call if they are unwell out of our service patients are advised to contact the impatient ward this service can help with admission avoidance with early interventions but if patients are unwell and need to be assessed they may still require a visit to the ed for this it's just amazing that like that we have you know specialist nurses but if you get sick and they're doing great work it's not their fault but it has to be sort of monday to friday between 8 a.m to 5 30 and then yes you get this card but the two or three people i've spoke to uh about this card um they still ended up long waits in the ed so i'm sorry grinding that's not a satisfactory answer and we've even got past the point now where we even got past the point now where we pretend there isn't a problem there is a problem and it's uh and it's um just the way it is all right uh aimin is from uh donnie gall here he joins us on the program now hi aimin how are you getting on aimin are you there hello yes hello yes you are there right okay uh you recently expressed your views uh as it relates to comments made by roshine uh murphy she uh was talking about uh her disquiet with the use of puberty blockers being prescribed to children who are confused about their gender uh she's effectively apologized for those comments now but still is uh i think her songs have been banned from the bbc uh and others uh are you backing her to you agree with her do you disagree well i i do i well first of all can i say i'm kind of tanked on a marie for contacting me to appear on the show you know what i do the reason i'm sort of agree with her is because i do i mean we have a right to express our opinion you know in public now i mean there's lots of people's opinions personally that i probably wouldn't agree with but i i do believe people have the right to express their opinion now there obviously is some caveats to that i mean you wouldn't you wouldn't you condone somebody that was say inciting violence or something like that but in general the principle of it i would yes but um the reason i'm sort of uh sort of i was looking up about gender identity and stuff like that and basically can i can i discuss a bit about us or is that okay or because i have studies and stuff is that okay to mention yeah i mean i suppose it just has to be in the context of aim and this is a this is a platform where people express their opinions in the context that we already understand that the Irish government now is reviewing the use of puberty block blockers and in fact is going to go back the way in terms of of the availability uh but yeah sure um go go yeah well i mean yes sorry right well just for i mean just for your viewers i mean um basically um any child presents with gender identity obviously goes through gp generally speaking they're referred on to cams or you know to be assessed but there is no gender identity clinic in Ireland now there what it said only gender identity clinic in the uk is in a place called havoc stuff that's closed now havoc stuff yes that's closed yes but yes yes it is in the process of closing but um my point is is that there were serious concerns expressed to the hsc in 2019 about the service in havoc stuff that the irish patients are referred to you know um now basically there was a for people might can you know know this because it wasn't really it was mentioned in the news but it wasn't you know mentioned too much but basically there was an independent review um of this clinic no this clinic in havoc stock is um nhs ron you know um and as i said it's the only one in the only nhs clinic at the minute in england there is there is other another two clinics in the process of being set up but from the latest um information i have this will probably be next year before they're open but anyways there was an independent review done on this um place this havoc stock clinic by a doctor hillary to cast who was and basically there was issues reported to the hsc from a doctor moron in 2019 and basically the issues he was reporting on were verified in this report now some of the issues that were that in us was basically well they were understaffed because they only had the one clinic that's supposed to fair enough but there was issues over like basically with a whistleblower in the organization that called us to be investigated in the first place but it was issues like um you know like the staff couldn't question any child that was basically referred you know they were put on a pathway to maybe puberty blockers or you know further down the line maybe um gender surgery but it was the toss in the place that um that it wasn't um the word making clinical decisions based on sound evidence now that is verified if you could just maybe make the quick point that is verified by this doctor cast in her report you know her interim report and basically it says the current model of care was leaving young people at considerable risk of poor mental health and distress and it goes on to say um that the decision making which I've been discussing there was inconclusive evidence to back some clinical decisions now not them all but some of them so that is actually in a report and I mean anybody can read that report online but the point I'm making really is that um yes everybody has been trying to show their opinion but this in a way goes more than the opinion because it's actually fact-based yeah that's why it's closing down in March of next year um yeah it's March next year that's correct yeah and I think the plan is to have two regional problems then you know yeah yeah but I mean getting back to Roshi Murphy I mean like everybody is entitled to their opinion but like she was trolled on Facebook and social media and different things and quite a lot of file abuse being thrown at her you know like I mean I would defend anybody's right to freedom of speech you know but obviously if I said in the beginning there is caveat there's like amen I just there was a post put up today there was a post put up today uh by one of the girls that was involved in yeah we're going to go and come here and yeah yeah one of the girls that represented us in the four by 100 meter four by 400 meters a lot of the comments from from people purported to be men were sexual in nature uh you know she was talking about her career uh really quite vile uh sexual comments comments about the color of her legs and all that type of stuff I just think for anyone if you comment anything even about a wonderful career or a wonderful season as an athlete it seems that you are going to get vile abuse unfortunately do you know what I mean I do but I mean I mean yes there is Greg at 100 degree which is definitely but I mean in the main provided you're not inciting hatred or violence or things like that which I would condone but in the main anybody's opinion it should be sort of respected because it is your opinion you know what I mean it's it's you know but um then like another issue with this Tavistock clinic um as as we were discussed it is in the process of closing down um is that um there was a very large percentage now this was a referral to the HSE in 2019 the whistleblower and the BBC investigation was in 2020 so there has been concerns you know quite a long time about us but um what you call it basically it was saying that there was um a 90 percent of the recent referrals to it there's been a 90 90 percent of the referrals are children who are on the autistic spectrum disorder now to me um just give you a bit of background Greg I'm a disability nurse myself and I've worked I've nearly 30 years experience as a disability nurse now I would have sort of had my suspicions around this because of the work I do and you know things of what I heard but I mean alarm bells should really ring there in my opinion that if 90 percent of their children um being referred have autistic spectrum disorders surely there's something you know there's something now I took that was in that was reported in um grit now for the viewers grip to the very conservative type um news organization so I did a bit more digging and basically in that CAS review she mentions it too now she doesn't give a percentage to this doctor but she does say there is a high high volume of people presenting with um autistic spectrum disorder now you know so it is verified in two reports you know one as I said I mean grip is a place a conservative you know organically it has it grip has no more than some might argue RTE or whatever grip grip has its editorial policies and it doesn't stray from them I mean it is it is anti anti trans ideology anti puberty blockers do you know what I mean so yeah and I'm not saying listen that's not a criticism because that's a point of view but that's what it is but the thing about it is aiming because we could find ourselves eating into the time very quickly here and you're making very good points eloquently as well the issue though sometimes with someone like Roshin Murphy is or any of us for that matter your conversation your statements have been uh evidence backed uh they've been they've been nuanced right they've been nuanced uh and and what have you what Roshin Murphy the mistake she made perhaps especially someone with it particularly someone with a platform she don't jumped in with both feet first effectively and and didn't sort of articulate a point like you might be doing uh right now now again that's why I stay as much out of social media as I can now then all of a sudden it becomes people that think Roshin Murphy should be carried through the streets on their shoulders and others that think should be thrown in jail and that's a societal problem unfortunately but amen just to put it like this though what's important because we talk an awful lot about transgenderism and then puberty blockers and I'm not trying to put you on the spot but I would say you know like do you know how many young people at the moment are receiving puberty blockers in Ireland well would you be surprised would you be surprised if I told you it was less than 15 yeah well uh yes well if I just yes well I'm not surprised or I'm not I know but it's just sometimes I think we need to put things into context because these conversations are often had as if puberty blockers are being shoved down the throats of every second child it's less than 15 uh children that have gone through assessments and what have you and listen they also should be noted uh the early onset of periods puberty blockers are often used in that regard but in terms of gender identity this more if you're having want to phrase it it's less than 15 young people in Ireland are on puberty blockers it's not it's just well I mean I'm not surprised really Greg by that number because at the minute now this is from April this is in the Irish independent in April um 2023 an article by Elish O'Regan um it's about this Tabasco clinic that there is there's still is 72 Irish patients on the waiting list you know so I'm not really surprised you know by that but my point to apart from opinion I know I'm sort of getting off the opinion thing but I do have an issue there with the government to be perfectly honest because I mean if issues were raised safeguarding issues of children shall we say were raised by consultants and people very high up in the organization Tabasco and with emails on to the HSEs going from 2019 and then as I said the independent review commenced in 2020 by Dr Cass but I mean I would imagine I mean I would think to myself that if there was very serious concerns coming in by you know very um by doctors and stuff about obviously I know there is no other clinic at the minute to refer these children to I understand that but what is not in my own opinion I would have thought that the government should have stepped in there in 2019 and sort of cease preferring more patients but the actual the only stuff cease in referring patients back last November from what I've read after all these interim reports and have it have come out you know and they're all saying the same thing there isn't no there is very I can't haven't read anything of a positive shall we say slant on it from the reports everything is paid into very serious and there's also and I think it's broadly accepted and the government accepted to there is there is limited evidence so decisions are being made based on on limited evidence but I think aiming people are having are having a converse a different conversation now maybe for a couple of years I think what it kind of things accelerated and now maybe the retreating a little bit as people talk about this more and people need to talk about these things more because I think with we're all in agreement that we have to make sure that what we're doing is actually the right thing for the child and not what we think is the right thing for the child but as you say amen unfortunately in this day and age everyone's entitled to their opinion but if you say it publicly uh unfortunately now you can be hung drawn and quartered for it or you can be a hero and I know that I just don't you know and I feel for I feel for anyone expressing their opinions and getting cancelled um but unfortunately that's the world we live in and they gave that example of that uh amazing young athletes she posted a joyous post this morning and it's just people uh slagging her off sexualizing her and uh if I uh if I could give my children one piece of advice it's stay off certain social medias to be honest amen thanks yes yes so what you said there about that actually there's a hundred percent correct too what you've said but like there's loads of there's loads of um like generally speaking as we all know like um anybody like that in general now I know I'm generalizing but in general the media can be quite liberal in their ideas and generally speaking the ideas that are being not be that you're not supposed to have shall we say are not the correct opinion as I mentioned generally speaking are more conservative type opinion based you know things like I mean if I can just get off but just give you another example in 30 seconds amen if you don't mind I know we invited you but yeah yeah like there is a thing going through the door at the minute safe access zones and basically what it means is anybody protest we're now quietly protesting to not do anything criminal within a hundred meters of an abortion facility can be criminalized you know bought to court but like the guard commissioners on record are saying that there is no need for these laws but we don't want to hurt it but I just saw that on that one I get it's public space but we don't like whatever people are going through we don't want to hurt them like why not protest at the markets where in electric candy or outside the door where these decisions are being made rather than people who are going through a health care process whether we agree or not like is it like is there not like why would I want to hurt anyone yes I appreciate what you're saying Greg but these people are generally speaking most of right they might have placards or something but generally speaking most of them are praying generally speaking you know yeah I know what you're saying I do now I mean they're not preventing any woman from access and anything are they're not harassing them or like I mean everybody has a right to their I mean if I want to withdraw into more and more into so we say that or Kenny Hospital flung they're not obstructing anybody or causing any I mean I can really protect about anything I really want but if you were going in practicing your religion and I gathered up 30 people and every Sunday you landed for mass and this is a far less serious issue and we were we were praying a different religion or chanting or something with our placards up that you found upsetting like you're going to church and you're entitled to go to church and and you would not be long going would someone not shift those people on probably but maybe you wouldn't aim and and listen maybe we should taste this out again in another conversation thank you so much and I do appreciate it and uh of course because it's that soft subject subject it feels like I'm cut naming off but I'm not uh and um we have to take a break because we've pretty much had a time the 90 noon show is brought to you by letter Kenny credit union digital loans now available apply online or via our app today and get your loan transferred directly to 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