Now we're live now. We're live now. We're live. All right. How do you guys like this? Let's choose music Is this the Chris Holmes is there anything in back? I don't remember It's just as kick you says kick me as hard as you can Spit on me live with Chris Holmes on the metal voice Guess what Chris Holmes is actually I'm not in France, but I'm actually in greater Montreal in Canada greater Montreal and You know what? We're here to talk about the upcoming shows If you guys have some quick questions, please feel free. I'm gonna open up the comments here What we're gonna talk about we're gonna first start off Chris with 9-11, you know the USA on this day So many years ago a tragedy that happened Tragedy yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah worse than that first thing ever happened in the United States since 1941 boom Pearl Harbor we tip our hats off hats off to the heroes and to the people who died You know 9-11 we even know even though I'm from the West Coast, you know It still hit me hard when seeing those buildings come down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Here to announce The upcoming dates in Canada Chris. Yeah, how's the flight first of all? It's great. Yeah. I had no problems It's good. All right, I played a lot of pool On the computer, I thought you're playing pool on the plane. No, I was on the computer. I've never done it before That's kind of cool You know and that computer that computer knows it screws up your shots, but makes this perfect And that's picked me off every time this didn't it Sarah's tapping on the she's tapping on the screen Show me something the ladies looking behind me like I'm the one that's hitting her, you know And then there was a kid kicking my seat And I was just there's always a kid Oh, no, but there's three kids and I was I was like see I was thinking like this I'm gonna get up and just turn around and scream at him scared the hell out of him And then I got up and I looked at him and I was like I asked him really nice.  I was a kid and be rude, but I really appreciate it if he didn't you know Give him the thing. Did you know who you were? No, he didn't care. He's a kid about seven. You can care less who I was Okay, he would have if I had stood up and sit and went like this. I looked at him like this. See look You know, but I just nice to him I was a kid. I was a kid one time, you know, I'm so I'm still a kid now You know, it's it's great that you know after so many years We've always done this sort of zoom live chats and it's nice to see you in person I like to thank Martin for you know, putting this together I like to thank Kathy for getting you over to Canada in one piece, you know And she's taking care of you throughout the whole cancer thing and I know that you look good You look good.  Yeah, I'm still suffering from the radiation treatment real bad Okay, even though this day I got a I got a spit. Yeah all the time in a cup, you know, whether it's put on somebody's for and My I can't sing yet because my I go to sing and nothing comes out Because of radiation You know on you, so it's the way it is. I'm like, you know, thank God. I'm lucky I'm lucky that the cancer that I had was treatable because a lot of people said isn't Yeah, yeah, you know the doctors say we just don't worry.  All right, and uh, it's you know, I knew it was treatable The first time I date I was diagnosed with it I didn't know how bad it was but it's when we went to the cancer hospital They shove the thing down my nose. Mm-hmm and we asked the guy I asked the guy and he just said all you got to do just follow what we tell you and it should We should get it clink get it out of your throat And it did and you did thank you and thank you to all your fans, right? Who sort of you help you know with the the the money I I kind of tripped out and thought How did it come out of my body, you know, I mean they didn't cut it out It's shrunk it I think so that spit it spitting all the time constantly, you know, or else number two it out or number one I don't know Maybe you're out to something. I don't know You know that sense to set since February I didn't eat and I didn't eat and I didn't number two for a long time And I was on then they put me on a feeding tube with my weight dropped down below 80 kilo below 88 kilos You know in my nose I was fed that way for a while Slowly I could drink water again and stuff. So yeah I'll be next year. I should be a hundred percent good, you know, you you got through that Yeah, you got through COVID and now you're in Canada and you know It's exciting and I'm gonna I'm gonna sort of like read out what's going on this week Okay, and that's why we're kind of like I'm videotaping this but at the same time we're live streaming this yeah So everybody right away They you know to go out buy some tickets, you know and come see the shows It's not only a show but it's an event Right because we're seeing your documentary. We're doing Q&A. You're playing a few songs the Q&A stuff should be cool You know people ask questions what they wanted what they always want to know if I don't want to give an answer About certain questions. I'm not I'm not Next question. There's a few things. I'm not gonna talk about All right. Yeah, all right. So starting on September the 13th now We're at in two days from now. You're gonna be downtown Montreal at the CIB L. It's one oh one oh one point five FM, it's a French station. You'll be doing an interview with them and actually I know you've never seen it, but it's sort of like It's not it's sort of like at the heart of the metal scene in Montreal That's the street where it's at. Yeah, it's downtown East St. Catherine Street and there's like a glass window You can people can actually we're walking by on the street. They actually can see you being interviewed Okay, so it's really cool. So whoever's a like in New York. Thank you that old. Yeah And and I mean even though it is a French station you will be you know speaking in English, right? And they'll be translating which is cool and it's at 8 p.m It's at 8 p.m. Yes, it's at 8 p.m. So I'm getting a thumbs up. It's at 8 p.m Okay, and you'll be signing before or after I'm not sure and he'll be signing after so you want to see Chris in person Go to Montreal CIB L. It doesn't cost anything To get support you. Yeah, and you'll be signing after that too. All right Yeah, all right. Yeah, do whatever they want and now here's the big one you're ready for this now September 16th Which is the coming Friday. You're going to be at the Piranha bar Piranha bar, I know you never you've never been to the Piranha bar, but it's sort of the heart and soul of you know Metal in Montreal. All right, and this is on St. Catherine Street also Here's the event and just you probably know this it's going to start off with People are gonna come they're gonna watch a documentary the mean man. All right After that, we're gonna have a Q&A and I'll be doing a Q&A Martin who's in the back there. He will also be assisting si on a de question off. I say you've got to do it, okay? And I don't understand the question, but I probably will but anyways, he's there also to help out I'm gonna be doing a Q&A like we're doing right now, but we'll be taking questions from the fans.  Okay, great bad. They're great bad They're a tribute 80s metal like they do it, you know great and then white noise which is sort of a fan a friend's of Correct Kathy friends white noise is fat friends of you guys, right? White noise the opening band. Yeah. Yeah, they're friends Yeah, okay, and then you're gonna be playing five songs. We won't tell you the song No, you gotta come there Okay Five songs and then who's gonna be in this band that's playing the five songs with you The drummer that I normally have been England and whatever you're Stephen Jackson Been a this bass player named Chuck.  You looked it up. It's the name of use was Cornelius. Oh Never and I didn't know him and then my friend Martin It's gonna be playing this guitar against whatever, you know some of the songs that we played the two guitar sound Okay, he's helping me out. All right. So this is like sort of like a you're easing back into playing live, right? Yeah, well, I haven't played for I did play last year this time kind of Ten months I did play 12 or 11 months ago in Ireland and Scotland last shows and you know, it's been off of Diagnose of cancer couldn't play for a while. Mm-hmm. So, yeah All right. So and before we get to the next event. Yeah, I want you to talk a little bit about a Steve Grimmett You actually spoke to Steve. Yeah Well, he the night before he sang on a song that I had written called playing in with fire Which is written about COVID and the way the way the Americans the President and Did everything on the news with COVID with the people why why into them? That's the song was written about playing with fire.  Okay people's lives a hundred a million people died America, yeah, it's written about that and I I did it Reproduction with the song I just clicked it or whatever and then up I sang on it and It was you know, whatever and Sarah goes, let's have them different singers So yeah, we had different singers and I met Steve at a show. Mm-hmm a festival We played real cool guy at a fun time being around him stuff called him up see if he'd sing and he goes Yeah, man, he's he was the first one to kick saying and gave us you know the music back to mix it and stuff and His wife my wife have kind of been staying touch and then he called me the other night about maybe four weeks ago Three weeks ago and Sarah gives my wife gives me the phone. Hey, what's up, Steven?  I don't know if I should say this I go well You know, I'm lucky that they didn't wake me up.  He's one leg at tour. I think he had a shirt like I mean, you know He took it with you know with humor.  She was a seat the Steve's dead or to Steve who she was grim it like what I got He can't be he can't be maybe it's fake on the thing and a few more things came in on the internet And I looked it up and in your show confirmed it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah sad and he was on He had an exceptionally exceptionally Voice exceptional voice rare that he you know, his voice was about as rare as the singer that I used to play with for years Yeah, you know rare. Yeah, yeah unbelievable a leaguer a leaguer vocals Oh, here's see a top-notch singer. Yeah, unbelievable man. I wish I could sing What quarter? Yeah, I wish I could sing a tenth what he does Steve will be missed. That's for sure man Yeah, Steve and he also had a heart of gold which is rare in this business. Yeah So I mean, so this is a lot of people I do but there's more in this business There's more haters than there are lovers. Yeah. Yeah, that's the way it is. This is sad.  Yeah, 9-11 this planet will still spin around the Sun We treat we treat we treat who knows what kind of condition it'll be that we'll all be gone. Yeah You know, it's a life, but music will live on. Yeah, it will live on no matter what the life is really short It is really short.  Yeah, we did. All right September 17th rest in peace Steve rest in peace Steve. Yeah. Yeah September 17th Katya DeLune This is a bar and at two o'clock. They'll be showing your documentary the mean man, right? There is our performance there my thing There's also performance after the the the documentary showing so there's no opening bands There's just a performance of come down at Quebec Disat septum. I think we have a Q&A to after that and are you gonna do a Q&A Martin? Yes, and a Q&A as well. So Come watch the movie the documentary. It's hilarious. It's great. It's a good watch, right? It's interesting to watch it is where it is in Quebec City So when are you the chance you can get to see Chris Holmes in Quebec City? You're not Not only do you get to see a great documentary you get to see him play And you know you get to talk to Chris signings always sign this right? All right, you can come ask it. You can come and down and ask me the most asked question I get Was it alcohol and the decline?  This is the rock pile in Toronto. You've played Toronto before right, Toronto, Canada. Yeah Oh, yeah Rock pile and this this time it's going to be Tim Henderson from Brave Words. Who's going to be doing the Q&A with Martin as well? You're gonna watch the documentary who's gonna watch the documentary. There's gonna be a signing and There's gonna be a performance of five songs there, too. So rock pile Toronto. I've been there a Great venue. You're gonna love the rock pile. You're gonna love it. Tim's a great guy Brave Words people are amazing You'll have a phenomenal Q&A and interview there. All right All right, you know, I want to ask you this You know, there was always this rumor about your your parents or your mom, you know And I think you brought it up on the last interview, but I didn't really ask you about it.  She's never been I mean Well, how did that even start that that rumor he used it? He used it on for press Moms are hells-angles. Well, first of all the women aren't health angels.   That's how stupid Okay, all right, all right because I know you mentioned it last time we spoke It's just and on the interview that we did and I just didn't really want to just sort of clarify that Right make sure all right if anybody out there has something no one asked Chris Sebastian saying hey Chris can't wait to meet you on Friday. So that's in Montreal Jim Harrison great to see you Chris back out there Thanks Marianne saying rest in peace Steve Grimmett Cindy saying hey Chris so glad you're better Bobby saying I love you I love your first three albums. I Guess he's referring to the Wasp ones right where they're great out. It could be my soul and your soul ones Steve Steph saying the real wasp spirit right here the wasp spirit, which is Chris Holmes What are your views says John on iron maiden? That's a pretty general question What are my views? Somebody asked me if somebody's asking who's a favorite band you ever toured with Iron Maiden who is the best band you ever toured with iron Maiden who was the nicest band? They were the coolest guys I've ever been around in the rock business I Traveled on their bus because of the same management Small as yet. I want to know I want to Steve Harrison's bus with Bruce and David Nadrian had a bus themselves Bruce flew a lot of times that I always was on their bus and of course They had they loved me because I'm from more Hollywood, California and and and every time Everybody and Iron Maiden when they'd say something they'd enter and the question with dude for some reason just said because you're from California Wouldn't that be mate like like you think they'd use mate because that's a good equivalent mate in my nickname with all the maiden guys Chewie because one time we're I think we're at the cat and fiddle in Los Angeles and somebody says about Star Wars and I went And it's just it's just stuck. You know, so it's alright. That's my next name Chewie Here I made it was just some of the greatest guys, you know In this business. Yeah coolest guys Ron who actually I went to school with Ron looking well Chris wish you good health And he's probably he's seeing you back in the day like back when you first, you know Start coming to Montreal and Canada back in the you know the first album and we guys are playing, you know The larger theaters Joe saying Chris we are so glad you're feeling better. We can't wait to meet you in Cornwall So there you go Cornwall Cornwallians. I don't know if that's the correct term Cornwallian, but sounds right Cornwall, that's alright. That's just a joke or my sense of humor Chris is saying that's awesome. So any any questions Joe was saying the guitar sound you have is like no other What's the magic behind your guitar tone? I grew up with Eddie Van Halen for a young age learned how I don't I know I don't play like him but I learned from I used to help roadie for him a lot and Learned a lot of tricks have how to set up your amp blah blah play and then I'd ask There's a few times he played we play just him and I and he'd show me some tricks Whatever, but a lot of it was was with amplifiers tone with the Marshall sound how you hooked it up and back then He was one of first guys that ever figured out to use a volt the variac with an amp because they didn't have master volume Mm-hmm. He had those amps back then didn't have so the best way to The only way to make them sound good so it's what distortion is you have to crank it up loud But he's he figured out you take a variac and it's the tubes turns down like a light bulb Yeah, yeah, the tubes would do that and I've learned that from you know Being a how he treated other people is the main thing, you know A lot of people don't know that you grew up in Pasadena Where were Eddie grew up in Pasadena? Well, you were hanging out in his basement together like you you right and growing up with Eddie Van Halen No, I knew him before Van Halen Unbelievable before they named the van van, but that helped me with my sound another another thing about my sound my sound is When a guitar has distortion in it distortion And if you if you play guitar, you'll understand there's the root note the fifth was it's in between and Then the third which makes the chord major or minor When you hit the third note You usually the root and fifth is what makes the chord the note E a yeah, whatever But when you hit the third which makes a major minor it creates harmonic distortion of a higher register up around 5k to 10k That do not mix it makes uneven harmonics, and it goes I can't do that It makes really really bad distortion that your ears pick up, and I never liked that Okay, most of chords that I would hit with distortion or two notes But all six strings. Okay, very important sabbath mostly hits two notes AC DC a lot of it's only two notes, but but Yeah, if you're gonna hit a major or minor chord usually you want to turn down a lot of the distortion It won't do that But when it's distorted it her it's called harmonic distortion It makes white or pink noise, but you don't like to hear and I never liked that so most of the chords that hit or to no chords You know cool, and the pro it didn't how you process the guitars how you dial in you lose the effects and stuff like that All right, Tom saying some refer to Chris as two tall homes Yeah, because there was a word going around Chris didn't like like that too much I could care less They used to call me two tall homes and lost because when we played blind in Texas Yeah, I had a Dallas Cowboys Texas Dallas Cowboys Jersey and there used to be a guy and in it back in the 70s. He wore 72 NFL he was a he was a linebacker called two tall Jones So my nicknames when I put they said on my jersey two tall homes All right, and it's just you know black you would wear the cowboy hat or whatever, you know Sometimes I said when I didn't have the jersey I'd put my pants up because I had teni llamas So you can see the tenant that wanted to look like cowboy boots and I would wear a bandana You know cowboy hat, but I like to put on it. I mean that was one of the reasons. I mean you're tall, right? Yeah Or I'm short Well I was in high school I was six six, you know, yeah, yeah, you're tall guy and black you was tall and the rest of the battle It's tall is right. You think about six One, I mean this is like a friggin tall band then you put the heels on right back in the platforms Well flies were flat Flat healed in the flat in the front bit five inch heels in the back. Yeah, like like dad, but yeah, yeah Look tall. Yeah, you know you're on stage and Joe Rockstar, of course you want to look good You know, but I mean it was also detrimental to you to find a band afterwards, right? That sort of my height was a little more on the average, right then too tall, right?  I'm on stage, you know The way it is yeah But you're okay. Yeah, it still doesn't bother me. I put it this way I wouldn't want to stand on stage next to Andre the giant and play guitar It's like if you and me weren't a band. Yeah, it'd be weird I'd be the short guy.  Yeah. Yeah.  I feel like a shrimp You know, I'm not what do you know what? Let me let me rephrase that question.  I'd still do what I do. Yes, some people It bothers, you know, yeah All right, we'll get back to it now. Here we go September 23rd Cornwall at the Port Theatre doors open at seven and The show is at eight. There'll be a documentary There'll be a Q&A and they'll be that mini show. So all these dates and all of these things I'm I still sign stuff too. And you sign so yeah So Friday and and the next week and a half you're gonna be doing signings There's gonna be documentary showings. All right. This is not this is not just a performance. This is like an event, right? This is like sort of like right. It's got everything. We brought some records over in case people can't find Other than downloading it if they can't find some So you got merch. That's what you're saying and this is one of the things here right here the shirts right here Let's choose a music. Yeah, right and again. I don't know what the back says. It says kick me on the back I know it says mean man. Oh, that's why you kicked me before I always when somebody had years ago somebody had me were signed their shirt in the back I'd say kick me as hard as you can It's got so mean James McLean. Good to see you here been looking forward for to this for a long time How long long cheese? When's the last time you've been in Canada?  They're crossing the border for you. You can cross the border now I thought they wouldn't let people cross the border. They let people cross the border legally Legally you can cross border legal when we flew and they sent us through the customs and then we were waiting to get There's a big glass room about four or five times because about a hundred people and they're all sitting in the chairs I go Man, I hope they're not gonna say sit over there wait for your number and for some reason We got up and right and I was like we're gonna have to sit over there wait And then you know, you steal a luggage that people don't get at the airport Hmm, I blew me away There's so this most I've ever seen in my life at the airport that Sheriff said a few things and boom. We were on our way. I couldn't believe it. I don't have we don't have to sit here with all these people You know and she's got a different passport than I do Because she's a Canadian too, right? Yeah, mine's American and it's sometimes a custom to look at weird All right, here we go parents weighing in here my buddy saying Munchel July 1989 was the last time you're here with Wasp And it was a headless children tour With Benelli with Frankie. Yeah. Yeah with Frankie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? What a killer drummer to put a killer drummer Brandon saying good to see you're getting back in action excited to get many more years from your iconic guitar playing You know your guitar playing is iconic. It's I mean without that guitar playing those wasp albums would have never been What they are today. I did all I did all the rhythms. I know that and what Randy played his leads And he ran he did a good job at what he did. I can't say that, you know, and at whatever mine were, you know, yeah That's an iconic. I don't look at it iconic because every time I play I gotta hear it Dean is saying a Dave saying excellent to see you're doing well brother. We are all so worried about you That's the fans really support you throughout this. All right, so I'm gonna read the dates again We'll do a couple more questions take a couple more questions and We'll see you at the shows. Yeah, September 13th again Montreal. This is just a radio interview, but you can go They'll be signings at 8 p.m. At CIPL, which is 101.5 set in Emission Française may you're gonna be speaking English. There will be translators 8 o'clock. You'll do some signings Then September 16th, which is this Friday.  They'll be opening bands plus you'll do five songs, but we're not disclosing the song Yeah, gotta come and see come and see you guys see it September 17th, Quebec, Caracé de Lune The documentary it's at 2 p.m September 21st with brave words doing a Q&A with Tim Henderson You'll be performing in a documentary as so forth and September 23rd in Cornwall the Port Theatre.  That's how much they missed you. They've been aching for you to come back, you know Jay saying I saw you guys open for Sabbath was fourth row and Blackley's spandex was a little thin and see-through We'll go there So what do you like? We won't go there Jose saying how cool maybe there is someone who is not entering. I don't understand he says see you See you in the Diamond Rock Club. I saw you in the Diamond Rock Club in November, Northern Ireland last time was great So yes, you were in Ireland in the UK, right? Okay, they must still be in the UK. All right, here comes Orlando. His name is Mosh pit. His nickname is Mosh pit Orlando Ask him if he's selling any of his solo albums on this tour. That's a good question. Yes. Yeah How many albums are we selling? We're selling merch here on tour. We're selling shirts. We're selling merch What do we sell?  You look good Chris is Jay Will you have the DVD of me man? Yes, it will be for sale and you'll be able to watch it when you come in Right, so this is a great place like under $30 and you're getting all this and they can come in with your phone I see what I would do. I'd come in with my phone and tape it off the thing Doesn't work that good anyway. I don't I didn't have a phone All right, did I leave anything out? Uh my thing we're good. Yeah, Kathy. We're good You want to answer some more questions if people have any more sure if anybody has any more questions go now Yeah, Thomas is saying cheers and best wishes from Germany. All right a lot of fans in Germany Jack is saying Hope you're getting your royalties. Oh, I Don't want to get into that, but I'll So bottom line is and you told me this on an interview you go And it comes down to this reunion question because everybody asked like a thousand times when you get paid That's when the time will be negotiation tables, right? When as cap or whatever what all I honestly I would just like to get paid for what I created. That's it I don't want any more. I don't want to take any more, but I created what I created, you know That's yeah, and that's nothing wrong with that. I don't want any more But I did I'm not out to steal stuff I just like what I what came out of my heart which would on records what I created There was some a lot of more stuff than that is for me. That's the way it is You know, I wouldn't change it. Yeah, I would change a few things growing up That you can't can't change the past. You only change the future Most underrated wasp album The headless children would be yeah in your opinion. Yeah, to me. Yeah The most overrated wasp album that you're on that will say I I I personally personally to me I During mix is the first album. I was screaming about the guitars are way in the background And you know the my one of my favorite albums that just came out a year before that's called born again With Ian Gillan and black Sabbath, and then you know, they mixed the guitars up That's what I wanted to do like in the headless children. They wouldn't it's just it's all it's mostly a vocal album The guitars are way in the background and it's it's not to me To me, it's not a heavy metal album Because the drum beats are or a shuffle I just it's not like You know our love machine was double bass, you know, it's all written between Tony and I It's just you know, everybody's got their own opinions about whatever, you know, yeah All right, may I may I say the second or third album to me? It's like, you know, look at the cover We went there. We already talked about that in so many interviews. Yeah me me me me me me me Martin saying looking great Chris gave it saying of all wasp bandmates. Who did you enjoy working with the most? That's a really good question. I don't want to burn all the questions in the band either Like I want to save some questions for the show in the band at first The first album stuff I didn't do it blacking. I had a good good Repertory between each other. It's fun to be around them, you know, but then when the narcissist come out come out But I will say Johnny Rod was One of the best Because I couldn't do no wrong Johnny was always in trouble and way more trouble and I could possibly be in I couldn't even get in trouble man. He was always causing so much This is the way he is. He's always in trouble and I was like that was like the flying nun You know, I couldn't get in trouble, you know, and a Johnny was great Randy and I got along great because we play guitar, you know, we don't step and step on people's faces Benelli and I got into a few You know not actually hitting each other in the face But it came really close a few times because I've known Frankie since I was 16 Way before he's in quiet riot He was in Bankel scarab at one time and scarabs guitar player was the guy that gave me sister's number Oh, okay. Yeah He's passed away now, but that's how I know Frankie This is a long time ago and Rudy Czarzo played in a band scarab. Yeah, this has to be 76 or 77 Here's a cool question mark says what do you think of no, sorry Bobby says was black has black you reached out to you since you've been sick, but I know the answer to this He didn't make a post wishing you well, right? So there was I didn't I think you could help pay for some of my treatment, but With your royalties that you didn't get Nikki six that Nikki six did oh he did Wow, he gave me a lot of money for he's a first one forked over 500 bucks and I love the guy for it Thank You Nikki so great great stuff Nikki six. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, I love them for that Anybody mentions that you'd like to mention that really like wow, I can't believe this guy, you know did this for me I had I got a it was a pretty touching You know the thing about the first month.  This is your metal god Rob Halford and it's kind of cold Rob talked a little bit on there and then the guitar player that took Tipton's gig because Glenn's sick. He's got Parkinson's disease is sad. That's really sad Yes, but thank God I could still play after my sick Kills me. Yeah, you can't do that do what he wants to do the guitar player he thanked me a bunch of tons of people did Nobody from lost it. It's kind of weird No step. No, no, no, no didn't didn't send me a message at all I thought he would but didn't just like you did that's okay. That's okay. I didn't expect it Glenn Hughes did wow, that's nice. I'm going to make one on the Sabbath tour And I was sad because I haven't been able to talk to him since he was fired. We were great We were good drinking buddies, you know It was great Glenn was one he's he's got a heart of gold, but I never really got after he was fired I never got to really talk to him. You know, I think when people go through some personal tragedies themselves They can connect with other people I went to the whiskey when he played as a solo project and a big huge bouncer wouldn't let me back stage I was like but but he goes move and I was like this. I don't want to fight this guy So I just left you know, I don't need to find out the past whatever and then I went to see the dead daisies in London Last year I even got the shirt I went to see the dead and I was on them talk and I saw Doug Aldridge get off the bus dog and he came out and I go Hey, I want to talk to Glenn. He goes man, but the COVID and stuff is somebody sick. They got to cancel the tour Yes, so I go this is cool. I understand that you know, so that's that I want to talk to Glenn Crack some jokes about whatever, you know Because I was on the tour when they when they fired him and got got Ray Gillam. Yes. Yes. Yes And actually, I think it was a near Montreal that that happened when when when the whole yeah shit went down. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I remember Vember Ray He had never played in an arena yet and It was after soundcheck and he was just he wasn't I'm just Nervous, but it was funny talking to him. He goes it's Christmas. I've only been clubs Dude, you'll be fine. You get up on the stage just for yourself.  I was somewhere in New York walking around and boom I just know his girlfriend had red long hair and I saw that Well, you raise it Wow sad Anyways, he died. It's very sad a talent was wasted and you know what on that note Yeah, there's a wonderful great cool information everybody It's he's here. Chris Holmes is here in Canada. He made it. Yeah And 2023 there's more to come so we'll talk about that as The weeks progress and you'll see Chris on Wednesday in Montreal And then on Friday and this tour will continue. We'll do all the postings I know you guys will be Chris. It's been a pleasure. It's been a pleasure to see you finally in person after so many years And that's it. So everybody, thank you for tuning in and we'll talk to everybody really soon Thank you