This is an economic plan with a significant ecological impact. Right now in Tamil Nadu, we've converted 69,760 farmers into agroforestry. And their incomes go up anywhere between three to eight times in five to seven years. But the most important thing is it's lucrative for the farmer and his hands are free. He doesn't have to go and mess with it every day. He can do various other things. This human resource can be used in many different ways. So, the most important thing is we need to move people away from this three-month, four-month agriculture into long-term agriculture.  If land has to remain in the hands of the farmer, you have to go for long gestation period crops. So, a whole lot of people are going for coconut, but how much coconut will you grow? How much agriculture will you do? There's only that much because most of the Tamil people don't eat fruit. They don't, pongal. That's how it is. Pongal, daily pongal eating. They don't like fruit, they don't like all that, they like pongal. All right? I like pongal. You like pongal too. So, because we have learnt how to mix these three things – pungence, sourness and salt, we can produce magic out of it. You go to the local village into the poorest home with little tamarind, chilli and salt, he makes magic. After that you don't want to eat anything. You want to lick it dry because it's like that, you can't stop. So because of this, fruit consumption, if we have to increase, we have to start a whole campaign. It's not going to just happen overnight. If you just grow fruit, it'll go waste, otherwise it must be of that quality that you can send it elsewhere. There are many issues to this. Agroforestry is a best thing we can go into because there is immediate consumption for that. Some part of it can go into horticulture, but the important thing is, land should come under shade. Every ten thousand trees will augment about thirty-nine million litres of water. So when we talk about these two hundred and forty-two crore trees, what it means is it can sequester anywhere between nine to twelve trillion litres of water to give you a perspective. Right now Kaveri river that is flowing, the total volume of water in the Kaveri river is twenty-one point two trillion litres. We are estimating in twelve years if we can do it. If the government gives an incentive to switch, we are asking for an incentive from both the governments. Right now four states are going aggressively with Rally for Rivers recommendations. They are planting crores of trees on the river banks, they are doing that work. But we must understand results will come after eight, ten years, not now. It slowly happens. If you want results that's how it is, there is no magic wand for this. So I met the environmental minister in the center, the Jalsakthi minister and we are talking to the Nithya Yog and the two governments here. But without incentives, we won't be able to shift in a major way. We are preparing to start mega nurseries all over the place and raise fund for this two hundred and forty-two crore trees.


This lecture is part of Berkeley Math 115, an introductory undergraduate course on number theory, and will be about products of Dirichlet series. So to start off with, I first recall about products of power series. So suppose I've got a power series A0 plus A1x plus A2x squared and so on, and I multiply it by another power series B0 plus B1x and so on. Then I get the power series C0 plus C1x and so on, where the number Ci, given as follows. So C0 is just A0B0, C1 is A1B0 plus A0B1, C2 is A2B0 plus A1B1 plus A0B2, and so on. And in general, Cn is just the sum over all i of Ai times Bn minus i. This expression here is sometimes called a convolution of the series A and B. In the theory of Fourier integrals, you get a rather similar convolution, where if you take two functions f and g, the convolution is the integral of f of y minus x times g of x dx. And you can see this is rather similar to this expression here, except you've replaced integration over the reals by summation over the integers, or maybe the positive integers. So taking a product of power series corresponds to taking a convolution of the corresponding arithmetic functions. So what happens for Dirichlet series? So let's take a Dirichlet series f of s, which is f1 over 1 to the s plus f2 over 2 to the s and so on. And g of s is going to be g1 over 1 to the s plus g2 over 2 to the s. And let's just multiply them together. So f of s times g of s. Well, the first coefficient is just going to be f1 times g1 over 1 to the s. And the next one is f1 times g2 plus f2g1 over 2 to the s. So so far it's rather similar to power series. The next coefficient is f1g3 plus f3g1 over 3 to the s. And now you notice there's no, nothing like f2g2 in the numerator that we might expect by analogy with power series. And the next one is f1g4 plus f2g2 plus f4g1 over 4 to the s. And now you notice that what's going on is the pairs of subscripts 1, 4, 2, 2, 4, 1 are always of writing 4 as a product of two numbers. In other words, this is really a sum over divisors of 4. So f of s times g of s is a sum over all n of 1 over n to the s times the coefficient, which is a sum over all divisors of n of f of d times g of n over d. And now this little bit here, sum over d divides n of f of dg n over d is really a sort of multiplicative convolution. You see, it's rather like the additive convolution we had earlier, except instead of adding, instead of summing over all pairs of integers that sum up to n, we're summing over all pairs of integers whose product is n. So products of Dirichlet series correspond to taking a sort of multiplicative convolution of two arithmetic functions. So let's look at an example of this. Suppose we take f of s to be just the usual Riemann-Zeta function. So that's 1 over 1 to the s plus 1 over 2 to the s and so on. So the numbers, the function f of n is just given by f of n equals 1 for all n. And let's take g of s to be g of 1 over 1 to the s plus g of 2 over 2 to the s and so on, and work out what Zeta of s times g of s looks like. Well, if we write its coefficients as h of n over n to the s, then we see that h of n is just equal to sum over d divides n of g of d times the function 1 taking an argument n over d, which is just 1. So this is just sum over d divides n of g of d. We can see an example of this. If we take g of n to be, say, Euler's function phi of n, the number of numbers less than n that are co-prime to n. Then we recall we had the identity, the sum over d divides n of phi of d was just equal to n. And you remember, we used this identity, improving that numbers had primitive roots by carefully counting numbers of elements of various orders. So if we take f of s, so g of s to be the function phi of 1 over 1 to the s plus phi of 2 over 2 to the s and so on, then Zeta of s times g of s is equal to 1 over 1 to the s plus 2 over 2 to the s plus 3 over 3 to the s and so on, where the numerators 1, 2, 3 are just the values of this function f of n is n up here. And from this, well, so this series here is just Zeta of s minus 1 as we saw earlier. So from this, we can work out what g of s is. g of s is just equal to Zeta of s minus 1 divided by Zeta of s. So that's the function whose coefficients are Euler's phi function. So we found that in previous lecture, different method using Euler products, but here we've found it by taking products of Dirichlet series. We can also get something called the Mobius inversion formula. So the Mobius inversion formula says this, if g of s is equal to Zeta of s times f of s, then obviously f of s is equal to Zeta of s minus 1 times g of s. And if you write it like this, it looks completely and utterly trivial. If we write it in terms of the coefficients of the functions f and g, it looks rather more subtle. So the first equation says that g of n is equal to sum of d divides n of f of d. And the second equation says that f of n is equal to the sum of d divides n of g of d times the Mobius function of n over d. So the Mobius function comes because it's the Fourier coefficients of Zeta of s. So Zeta of s minus 1 is just sum of mu n over n to the s. So this pair of equations is called the Mobius inversion formula. Yeah, it's the same guy who invented the Mobius band with a twist in it, but he also did other things. So an example of this, suppose we recall that n is the sum of d divides n by 5n. So in this, we're taking g of n to be n and f of n to be phi of n. So we can apply the Mobius inversion formula to this and we find that phi of n is equal to the sum of d divides n of d times mu of n over d. So for instance, this is the phi of 6 is equal to 6 minus 3 minus 2 plus 1. So another example of a product of Dirichlet series, we can take Zeta of s times L of s, where L of s was the series 1 over 1 to the s minus 1 over 3 to the s plus 1 over 5 to the s minus 1 over 7 to the s and so on. And this series turns out to be equal to a quarter of sum over n of r of n over n to the s, where r of n is the number of solutions to n equals a squared plus b squared. So you remember we discussed the number of solutions to this before and we found that r of n was actually multiplicative and depended on the prime factorization of n and whether prime factors were 1 or 3 modulo 4. In particular, we see the series r1 over 1 to the s plus rp over p to the s plus r of p squared over p to the 2s and so on. The sum of this depends on the value of p. So for p equals 2, it's 1 over 1 minus 2 to the s because these numerators rule 1. For p1 mod 4, we get it's 1 over 1 minus p to the minus s squared as you recall from a few lectures ago. But for p3 mod 4, the number of representations of p to the n is 0 unless n is even. So we just get this factor of 1 over 1 minus p to the minus 2s and we can write this as 1 over 1 minus p to the minus s and 1 over 1 plus p to the minus s. And now if you compare all these Euler factors with the Euler factors of zeta of s.  You see that zeta of s times l of s has exactly the same Euler factors as a quarter of sum of rn over n to the s. Quarter there I guess. So this expression here is actually something called the zeta function of the Gaussian integers. So the usual Riemann zeta function is just the zeta function of the ordinary integers. And there are analogs of this for various other rings and about the simplest example is the ring of Gaussian integers whose zeta function in fact turns out to be this. You can sort of understand the connection because the coefficients of zeta of s or the coefficient of 1 over n to the s of zeta of s is up to a factor of 2, the number of ordinary integers of absolute value n. And here the coefficient of 1 over n to the s is the number of Gaussian integers such that the square of the absolute value is n, again up to a factor of 4 or so. So the zeta function you can think of as being something like counting the number of Gaussian integers of given norm. Another thing we can do with Dirichlet series is differentiate them. So suppose I've got a Dirichlet series, f of s which is f of 1 over 1 to the s plus f of 2 over 2 to the s and so on. And what happens if I differentiate it with respect to s? Well what I get, well the derivative of n to the minus s is minus log n times n to the minus s. So I essentially multiply all the coefficients by log of n.  Log of 1 is 0 of course. I'm just putting it in so that you can see what the pattern is. So an example of this is the function lambda n which is equal to log of p if n is equal to p to the k and 0 otherwise. So you remember last time that sum of lambda n times n minus s was just the derivative with respect to s of log of zeta of s. So here we've got an example of taking the derivative of a Dirichlet series. As an example of all this we can prove an identity due to Selberg. So this is one version of Selberg's identity. So Selberg's identity was a rather remarkable identity found by Selberg that he used to give an elementary proof of the prime number theorem. And his identity isn't that he proved the prime number theorem isn't exactly the following identity but is rather closely related to it. So his identity says that lambda n times log of n plus sum over d divides n of lambda d times lambda n over d is equal to sum over d divides n of mu of d times log of n over d or squared. And if you were asked to prove this identity it would look like a complete nightmare. I mean this looks like this just completely bizarre complicated identity and you've no idea how you should even approach it. Well if you approach it using generating functions for Dirichlet series it becomes essentially trivial to prove. So all we do is we find the functions whose coefficients are given by each of these functions here. So for lambda n you remember these are the coefficients of this corresponds to the Dirichlet series zeta prime of s divided by zeta of s. And you remember if we multiply the coefficients by log of n this corresponds to differentiating the function so we get zeta prime of s over zeta of s differentiated possibly with a minus sign in there. I always get muddled up about the minus signs. And here the expression we've got with summing over d divides n of some function of d times some function of n over d. So this corresponds to the Dirichlet series whose coefficients are lambda of d. You remember this is just zeta of prime of s over zeta of s times the function whose coefficients are lambda d again. So we just take zeta prime of s over zeta of s again. Now here the function log of n squared, so this bit here would just correspond to the function where we take the second derivative of zeta of s. Now this whole thing here where we sum over mu of d times log of n squared you remember when we sum over d divides n of mu of d times something this corresponds to multiplying by 1 over zeta of s. So this term on the right corresponds to the Dirichlet series zeta double prime of s over zeta of s. And now all we've got is the identity zeta prime of s over zeta of s differentiated is equal to zeta prime of s squared over zeta of s squared times zeta double prime of plus zeta double prime of s over zeta of s. And this is essentially just Leibniz's rule for differentiating so it should be a plus there for differentiating the quotient of two functions. So this completely horrendous looking identity between arithmetical functions just turns out to be a elementary piece of calculus where you're just differentiating a product or quotient of functions. Okay, so next lecture I'll be talking a little bit about the prime number theorem and not giving a complete proof of it because that's rather too complicated but sketching the main ideas of a proof of it.


Good morning George. Hey Duffy Okay, good we got both Perfect should I just leave it like that you think that's what's that I just leave it like this Have I seen the meeting like this? What do you mean? Do you see the the toxides? Oh, yeah, okay? CNCF TOC meeting April 2nd, 2024 And last audio check. Thank you Hello everyone We will wait a few more minutes to allow more folks to join us I was gonna say Kubernetes zoom always has to be Bob always Yes, did you happen to see my cube con badge? Yes, yes it did. Yes, I had Kubernetes zoom on there for Oh, he's here. Oh, that's funny. Oh, that's how you do that. Okay. I was just asking around for like How do you actually remove them the three-day I meeting notes and it Bob?  They will ban The specific users that are using it. So it sounds like a bot has found us just generally and specifically. Okay, cool They will join Like any like if someone joins and like subscribe to a meeting they will automatically join any meeting that they've added to their calendar Thank you for the update Emily. We've got Yeah, folks here, which is many as much as we're gonna get so yeah George go ahead and get started next slide George All right, hello everyone you've made it to the TOC public meeting your participation in this meeting in attendance means you comply with the Atlantic Foundation's anti-trust policy notice next slide You've made it here. So you've got all the zoom information next slide We have several TOC members present here today Next slide. All right. So we've got a few items on the Agenda CubeCon Paris recap updates from the TOC tag chairs meeting and TOC member status updates on projects next slide So This is our opportunity to hear from the tags any meeting update or any updates that they have going on any questions But also like what was the experience at CubeCon this time? I know tag contributor strategy did some canvassing of projects in the project pavilion I will turn it over to you all to share What you thought about CubeCon this last event and I'm not a tag but like honestly it was probably the best I've seen so far in terms of Engagement like there were people all sorts of people that were asking about various projects the project pavilion was like never not busy And people were there until like You know they essentially be kicked out of the convention center because there are people were there so late the last day Wow Lynn yeah, I'm going to add to that. I'm really really impressed with the engagement the energy from this CubeCon Emily and I and Nick Nikita and a couple of other people had a panel. I think it was like three thirty Ish on Friday afternoon and it was pretty well attended. It's just impressive Like the energy from the CubeCon What I have heard there on the first day of CubeCon the the vibes on the AI Maybe a little bit too much Given, you know, we kind of spent like the whole keynote on the first day to keep talking about AI Well, it's maybe not nearly close to Very reality for a big enterprise yet. So that's Interesting I heard about so far. I'm just so impressed with the energy, you know Everybody seems so passionate every time I went to the expo It was very well attended Compel with other CubeCons that particularly the CubeCons in the US in the past, too. So Duffy Yeah, I agree on the AI sentiments and I also I do and I actually do another shout out to the project pavilion and I was really impressed Although it took me a little while to realize that they were changing out Particularly they were changing out spaces in the project pavilion for different for different projects over time That was that was very confusing to me at first but it was really neat that that it was constantly busy and then it was Really had a good opportunity to actually connect with a few folks who are who had some questions about Projects moving levels and those sorts of things. So really really big Very very successful CubeCon in my opinion. Yep Some chatter from the chat seems like a lot more attention was around projects and community and some of the leadership groups and working groups That were in attendance We did have a lot of individuals attending the TOC panel, which was pretty insane for how many Attendees we had there the Cates meeting great ran out of space So overall it seems like we got way more attention way more interest from attendees in kind of the Other parts of CubeCon that we've been asking for for a while. So that's great. Excellent All right, any other thoughts and ideas? observations I would say the poster session. I think was a great success I was one of the co-speaker on the post session You know, they gave us all the post session like the best slot in the expo centers of people keep coming You know getting food. So it was pretty cool to you know, say hi to people and what people are interested in, you know Show them the poster The other thing I want to give a shout out is Jorge help organize the lightning talk for the project It was like super super well attended and organized. So that was so far Kathy Yeah, I would like to add that you know, I think the AI working group's work was very well received and Has, you know, a lot of interest from the community on quite some people come to ask, you know How to join that working group how they can contribute. So I think that's also a very good success and Thanks for all the people working on I mean on that white paper and also in the working group Yep, yep, so sounds like a lot of interest and attention now now the ball is in our court to follow up with everybody that we talk to and all the actions that we took to make sure that we're making progress Speaking of progress next slide So at cube con the to see in the tank chairs met there was a comment and chat that it was probably one of the better meetings that we've had so yay slide deck and agenda work So we talked through the results of the tag chair tag leadership survey that was sent out. We talked through Reons observations and analysis of the differences between all of the tag charters and where there was variants where there was similarity We talked through some of the challenges that can contributors to cloud native brand new ones coming in to the ecosystem have challenges and understanding what is the tag doing or are they doing work those kinds of things So we talked through a lot of kind of more concrete actions next steps challenges that the tags are experiencing and based off of the survey and past discussions and meetings we had proposed Exploration groups domain technical review and leadership and contributor ladder for tags. So I'm going to start from the bottom up Leo. Thank you for linking the slide doc And chat here the leadership and contributor ladder for tags. This is something that's new Nikita. Thank you so much for filing the issue earlier today. There's been a lot of discussion already on it which is fantastic This is about introducing terms for the tag leadership. We do have co chairs, but the technical needs currently don't have terms. We also want to promote rotation and emeritus status for tag leadership as well And set up a more clear path for newcomers into the ecosystem to achieve some of those leadership roles within tags. There was also a brief discussion and I don't remember if it was during the tag chairs meeting or post in one of the hallway tracks about individuals that are contributors that may not necessarily want to reach a technical leadership role They just want to do awesome work within the tag. So we need to make sure that that is also accounted for within the contributor letter. So the issue for that is linked in the slide deck. If there are individuals that are interested in participating. Nikita is leading kind of that issue in that effort. Hopefully we'll have this near complete by April 16 which I think was our target date to do a check in on some of these activities. So talk on the issue there and then I believe Nikita is coordinating kind of more asynchronous or synchronous catch up so that we can have a plan and we can get it implemented and move forward. The next thing is the domain technical review groups. This was something that was done in the past by tags although rather inconsistently it varied greatly from tag to tag some projects were getting really good feedback some projects were not getting a lot of feedback. And the TOC is often gone to the tags to ask for a domain review of a particular project whether or not it's hey does this look like it's cloud native and fits within this area should we accept it as a sandbox project. And in other cases providing an update is for due diligence support of how does this project actually fit within its domain technical area within the ecosystem. So there is an issue that Karina started. I've asked her to go in and update the issue with a little bit more action oriented kind of like. This is the work that we're trying to do and what we're trying to accomplish here. The intent of the domain technical review group is to put together a consistent framework for tags to be able to evaluate and engage in projects that is meaningful for both the tag and the project in understanding how it's how it works what it's doing like within storage or within networking, how it's compared against the best practices in that particular domain space, how it's providing some differentiator associated with that and generally how it measures up within the cloud native ecosystem. So Karina is going to update the issue later today. If you're interested in providing input insights sharing your observations and what's worked well in the past with tags. And comment on that issue. The one of the deliverables that I believe we had talked about was making sure that it's a very clear and easy to follow process for tag members to get involved and engage with a project. The next one was exploration groups. The issue is also linked on the slide deck here dims thank you for filing that issue. There's been a lot of discussion on it and there seems to be some continued confusion or kind of trying to understand where we're at with a few things. The exploration group proposal came out of the survey feedback that there are new technologies, new workloads, new areas that we have individuals in the ecosystem or outside of the ecosystem that come to CNCF and they want to do something in that space. It's either too new or there's not enough that's concrete for us to either set up a brand new tag, create an additional stream of activity associated with it. So the intent was to provide a time bound focused group that allows them to go and pursue a particular area so the AI working group is a pretty reasonable example of this they came together. They had a set of deliverables that they were looking to do. It was a new and relatively emerging space at the time. And now I believe that they have some follow on actions and plans to continue work in that group. But the intent here would be to better tightly scope and couple these kinds of exploration opportunities to determine whether or not we need a new tag whether or not we need additional work in this area. If work doesn't need to happen, meaning we don't need to provide guidance we don't need to do white papers we don't need to do outreach to projects to understand how they can safely incorporate certain technologies. So there's a lot of discussion going on associated with this. There is some overlap with the concept of working groups that exist within tags. If this is something that the tags do not want to do or don't want to kind of account for is a separate work area. That's fine just have the conversation on the issue to see if this is worthwhile to do. This is one of those things where we need individuals that are close to this level of work to provide their insights and kind of their expectations on the issue so that we can decide whether or not this is something we want to formalize within the TOC and within the tags, or if it's just something that we roll up underneath of the existing working group structure which isn't entirely clearly well defined across all the tags. Are there any questions about those proposed items that came out of the talk tag chairs meeting. Just maybe a quick point of clarification on the exploration groups and existing working groups. It sounds like largely the difference might be that one is time bound and the other one may or may not. Correct. So there is a few more things there right like. Thanks Tim. Hi. So it might not fall under attack. So we're not going to go create a tag just for the exploration group. So we might need something that is independent of a tag because of the very nature of it right like we don't have tags for everything. So then the other one is we need to think about as a strict timeline right. Working groups don't really have one and like we do still have working groups that don't want to disband. So having clear criteria here to say hey this is like a new area. We don't want to confuse it with any of the existing governance structures. I think that that is the main main focus of give it a different name and do something different and make it easy to start one. So that they can get the resources that they need and the help that they need from CNCF staff, TOC tags and working groups and essentially serve as a signpost for people to say okay I'm interested in this. So let me go hang out with those folks on this call and like collaborate. So that is the kind of idea that we are looking for here something quick to aggregate and hopefully do some meaningful work and then disband when it is done. Maybe we'll turn it into a working group or you know as part of a tag later but you know unless the idea I have right now is to say that unless the TOC gives them permission to continue. You know there is we need to have some kind of a balance there to say okay you're not meeting anymore. Let's go ahead and wrap you all up. So that is the kind of thing that I'm thinking about right now, based on all the discussion that is there in the issue so far. Yep. Okay. Anything else on those. During the course of the TOC tag chairs meeting there were other things that were talked about and proposed but due to lack of interest. They were dropped. So you'll see a couple things in the slide deck if you do if it's not on here it's because no one was interested in it. And that's fine. Trying to be very mindful of everybody's time and a lot of these activities but if we don't have individuals that show up to participate and to contribute and drive these activities home to completion, then they're not going to get done. So if you are super keen and interested in any of those areas. Please assist show up provide your ideas and perspective. It would be greatly appreciated. Right. Next slide. Alright, couple of things. George thank you you've pulled up the TOC project board. So, the TOC has a very long backlog we have 17 that are currently in the new column of projects that have applied to move levels we are keenly aware that the backlog and the queue is extremely long. They are no longer underneath of a cube con freeze and we have significantly modified the moving levels process for projects to make it more streamlined and when I say that we are the changes that were merged into the TOC repo before cube con affect all projects that are in the new column and assigned if they were already started in their due diligence their due diligence needs to finish underneath of the old process but new projects. They're kind of doing a self assessment of where they are against the graduation or incubation level criteria. We've provided significantly more clarity on the criteria with significant contributions from the moving levels task force to thank everyone for that. We're hoping that this should speed up the due diligence process overall. Thank you is so long and we do have a lot of projects that are in this like middle area. I know pixie is one of them that ones on my list. To see members need to make sure that we are updating our issues for projects moving levels to reflect the current state of where they are at. So several of them haven't been moved in a while. It might be that we've been bombarded with work or cube con activities. So please take a few moments to go in. Make sure that the assignee on the issue is correct. I know someone had volunteered to take cube OVM once Richie transitions once Richie transitioned, but it's not been updated since then. We need status updates on a lot of those and please reach out to the projects to let them know where you're at. I occasionally will get DMs directly from project maintainers that they haven't heard from their TOC member. So please please please reach out and talk to them. That being said, the next thing associated with that is the cube con freeze. So we currently have a freeze with instructions on the TOC repo that talks about certain activities cannot be performed within certain amount of weeks of cube con and then the week after cube con. Because of the change in when cube con has been occurring, as well as the increased amount of cube cons, we cannot maintain the freeze as it's currently written. So I wanted to open the floor to discussion with tags and with the TOC members about what is appropriate. George, if you could switch back to the slides real quick. One of the other challenges that we had associated with this is that cube con was often being used as a milestone for moving levels by projects. This is problematic because it puts a lot of pressure on the TOC to rush through due diligence, the projects unhappy when we can't meet a cube con goal for them of moving levels. So we need to make sure that we're addressing the misaligned incentives associated with cube con as a goalpost for moving levels. But what recommendations do folks have here? A lot of the challenges we were being inundated too close to cube con when a lot of other activities go on around that time frame, particularly within four weeks. Ideas, thoughts, opinions. Quick question, if I may. Are you folks going to do freezes for cube con China and India as well? So that that was part of the kind of discussion is cube con China had been exempted from the freeze because it was it was dual with another event since cube con India is brand new. That's where a lot of the questions are starting to come up. We have so many of these kinds of events right now we cannot possibly support a freeze for everything. The TOC still has responsibilities to projects to move levels. Dimms. Yeah, I have a feeling that we should restrict it to the two big events in the year and not do it for anything more. And maybe which to we can decide depending on like, you know, the how the events grow and like where the TOC members are coming from. Right. So, at this point, we are good or bad. You know, EU and any based to see members. So we probably need to start there for sure. Yes, Ricardo. So far. But then we should write it down somewhere why we took this decision so we are not revisiting this and that when we do revisit, we know why we took the decision. So it sounds like still yes on the EU and North America freeze. We have some of this already written down in the URL that's linked under freeze it's on the TOC repo under process. The current time point timeframes are within six weeks of the event to see doesn't take on new sponsorship of applications to move levels. So we should postpone that sponsorship until after cube con to increase the likelihood that one we don't forget to do a kickoff with the project, but to also make sure that we're focused and have the opportunity to engage appropriately with the project without being distracted with all of the different activities that happen around that timeframe. So are the weeks for the block in the activities underneath of that appropriate because there's the six weeks mark and then within two weeks of the event we don't do public comments opening. We don't do voting on projects any open voting is paused. There's no project announcements associated with that. So the six week thing was basically meant to be something you know to help kind of define the fact that there should not be a milestone right. Like that was the point of having a six week break there. Correct. And we haven't really seen a change in behavior related to that necessarily people still absolutely have that perception. Correct. So I wonder if we should reduce that to four weeks and continue with the rest of the and I think the two week prior to the event think absolutely makes sense, especially if we aim for those two, especially be picked two events a year that are going to be that Can we do. The majority. Duffy to be. Yeah, I was saying like the two weeks of the within two weeks of the event and the second week following the event part of it kind of makes sense for events where the majority of the TOC or a good amount of the TOC would be present. I don't know I mean maybe that's the language is that you know if if the expectation is that the majority of the TOC might be present at an event then we have to consider that event. We have to consider the timing around that event. But also reduce reducing the six weeks prior to the event to four weeks, because we still have meetings in those two. We still have meetings all the way up basically until two weeks of the event. I was actually going to suggest you drop the two weeks and just make it four weeks because it's so much more clear for everyone as far as like it's here it's not like and then being able to move towards like a two week afterwards as well. So when you say extended to four weeks are you talking about the two weeks prior to the event. So there is one deadline and it's four weeks before the event. And we just combine the whole thing into one four week period. Right like there's one like that like and make it a binary gate about like the if four weeks before the event rather like graduated or you're not one of the two because like there's just a lot of like lay almost awesome. Like you all can like, you know, push back on me about this but just from what I'm seeing I think four weeks probably be better for everybody. All right, so let's simplify it we'll make it four weeks. So looking at the content on the document. We just need to remove the within two weeks of the event. Merge those bullets together and then change it from six weeks to four so that we got everything together Kathy. Yeah, I think before the event.  Do you have that, like one week or two weeks after the event. That one should still stay because the week immediately so there's the cube con week where nothing really ever happens other than people are at the conference. And then the week immediately following cube con I know CNCF staff usually take that as a kind of a reprieve from all the chaos that goes on around cube con and a lot of us are either coming back and catching up on work. So we're usually busy during that timeframe so I think we'll still keep the second week following the event is when we can start picking things back up again. All right. I also think, you know, we should, we should pass information like, you know, not like as a moving level. Well, I feel quite some projects, you know, targeted it could come as a, you know, a time point that will probably be approved with some kind of conflict. So we need to make that all clear for people don't have a long expectation or planning or planning. Yep. James. James you're muted. Sorry. I wanted to touch on what Duffy was talking about. I think the individuals to see members can still specify their availability and unavailability to do the project that they are working with. This is here we are talking about like the blanket one that everybody knows about. So if you're good, some of us are going to India then we make sure that we tell the project that we're working with at that point that look, I'm traveling I'm not going to be around so you know, set your set their expectation that nothing will happen for the next two weeks, because I'll be traveling basically. That's kind of where I was headed, but I think we've also just nebulously defined that there'll be two events during which this freeze will apply. And so what I'm wondering is should should that be better defined by saying if the expectation is that the majority of the TSE will be at an event. Then this will be the event that this that this freeze applies to. So how about this. Let's focus on the two events that we talked about because we can always make adjustments to this later. I would also add in a caveat that to see members are expected to be communicating with projects, or when they're going to go dark because we're dealing with the coupon event. Whether or not that is one of the major ones if it's coupon India keep on China, maybe there's a whole series of KCDs that to see members might be attending. So, we have a few recommendations. Is there a to see member that would like to write up the proposal and submit the PR so that we can get it approved emerged in before the next cube con. I can help with that. I'm Emily I'll sync with you, you know where should this be in the GitHub. It's actually I will grab the link because I realize it's may not be parent, but the link to the area that we're talking about is in chat. So, Lynn, I'll think with you online. If you need any additional help. All right. So we talked about the freeze TSE members going to go in and update their project status on the boards. Any other updates questions. We've got 28 minutes. I don't want to have to fill the time with that error but if folks have something that they would like to talk about. Most of the TSE is on the call. So I did want to ask like who here was not in Paris. Right like at what questions that do you have a day we missed you in Paris. I was going to say I don't know if anybody else has words I wasn't in Paris. I don't know if I have a ton of questions I mean the spot if I said a whole bunch of people and I've talked to them, I think maybe the biggest thing for me is like, takeaways of TSE things that we should be doing I don't know better differently and or that people really love that we're doing super well. I think a lot of that you guys already covered I'm assuming there wasn't like super secret things you refuse to talk about on on this call that happened in Paris. So I think we probably covered that. I don't know nothing else kind of really comes to mind that stuff I need from this group from Paris. So just so everyone is aware there was no super secret chaos at cube con that the TSE was pulled into so I think this was the first cube con in a few years where we were not inundated with running around and dealing with one crisis or another. So that was certainly very appreciated. We did have a few TSE members meet with certain projects to understand where their health is at and some next steps that they were going to take. But beyond that seems pretty normal. Matt. Hi. I had a question. I was not at Paris. I had expected to be. But was there any discussion or was there any notable movement around cross foundation collaboration. I asked because I now have some more time freed up. And I've got just yesterday from Cody, for example, the track list from cube con. And I also have the full history of GitHub now pushed parquet. Right. So we can like start combining these data sets and providing some interesting visualizations and to do that I'll be using Apache things. I'll be using CNCF things I'm using open SSF things right in the context of the CNCS landscape graph project, which now actually is actually graphic has some data. So if there are any rules of the road or opportunities to kind of like test drive collaborative models in the open that are cross foundation. I'd love to know about it or if there was a hallway track on them. I don't believe there was a discussion on it at cube con and I do know that there is one sandbox application of a project that exists underneath of the Linux foundation proper. That it's applying to CNCF and we do have an open issue on the TOC repo for exploring the possibility of projects existing underneath of one or more foundations or working groups existing underneath of that. There was from my recollection, the last conversation I had with anybody about it was that there was a concern over the licensing associated with those contributions and CLA. In this case, it would be more like a solution that leverages Postgres Apache arrow and guac from the open SSF. So, for example, like so things like this that as we build a super graph of these little sub graphs some of these sub graphs are going to be things like the graph for understanding artifact composition, which is now an open SSF project. Right. So it's more like just if there's a right way to do that, or if there are certain notes or breadcrumbs along the way that would be useful to inform whatever process work is happening in the future. You can ping me directly or I'll follow. I just dropped a link to the issue in chat. Take a look at that. I don't know that there has been any kind of prior arch or any additional information beyond what's there. So I would say it's going to be project or effort specific. And as long as we're being mindful of what all is in scope and where the work is being done, we should be fine. I guess because I see a bunch of hands up, but I want to ask if any of the hands are related to Matt's query. Nope. All right. Bob Duffy and then dims. Okay, this is jumping back to something earlier regarding the ladder and all that. If I know we have time but like, if you prefer to discuss it someplace else or like on the issue happy to do that too but I had an idea when to run by folk. Okay, cool. And one of the things I see with like the sort of ladder to tag leadership and sort of going beyond that is like there isn't a, you know, big incentive to go to be a tag lead right now. Or, you know, potentially, especially when it comes to like your employer giving you time to potentially work in that tag. So I was thinking about maybe trying to extend a ladder, sort of pass that and say make one of the TOC seats specifically like one from the GB elected pool actually be basically comes from current and emeritus tag leads. And what would wind up happening is the TOC would nominate people out of that pool. And then the GB would vote on, you know, that position so they're still sort of a, the GB still has a say, but you have a pool of people that, you know, are already very familiar with the ecosystem and sort of the expectations around things. And so there should be hopefully a bit more, you know, people coming into it knowing what to expect and actually being able to help. So, I like the idea. It's not the first time that I've heard it, and it's actually been discussed quite a bit, particularly this past round of to see elections we found some opportunities to improve awareness to the governing board about the work that a lot of our tag leads have been doing. And the tag chairs so that their visibility to the governing board is potentially increased. I think we need to do some, we need to have some conversations about how we can do that in a repeatable and constructive manner for engaging with the governing board along those topics. I think it's though something that we should probably take offline and outside of that leadership discussion, although it is directly related to it. Okay. Yeah, I figured I just wanted to like float through the idea by it, but like happy to discuss out of band later. Bob, you should definitely log that in the, as a comment in the issue. So we don't lose it. Yep. We definitely revisit that. Yep. Thank you for bringing it up. Duffy and then dims.  And so I'm wondering like when we will have, I want to make sure that we're addressing this in the TOC meetings as we go forward, like when, like how we will fill those, how we will fill that space and what the, and what the, what the people who have to fill those shoes are going to look like because those are big shoes, you know. Okay, so I can speak to some of that. Daniel crook, who's also on the call today is kind of helping support. GV who you all know as well is helping us. And I'm here as a contractor for the next couple of months to be able to make sure the transition goes smooth. So yes, totally hear you and also like the nice things are going to happen for all of you, which are working out more details as well. There's another, another piece to this, which I will just put out there. I don't think I don't expect us to be able to make this change very quickly. But one of the things that I think the two of us have discussed is like more transparency around the legal process. And I don't know, I'm specifically curious who will drive that in your absence. Daniel and I are working on being able to do like more of a transition around how that actually works. And like you can expect to be able to have the foundation board be better updated in the future as I hand off to other people around this. Cool. Good catch. Tim is back to you. Yeah, so I have to go back to Dave. I'm updating Dave. So one of the things that happened was around the end user tab, Dave. So that's being formed and that is well fleshed out. And so there, you know, there was a lot of discussion in multiple places. Hey, let's go ask the end user tab what they think. And like, let's work together with them more. So that was one of the big things that came out of Paris as well, which you might, I don't know if you've heard. I've heard like a little bit about it. I was going to try to get more of it from the tab but I mean I'm totally happy to hear more of the TOC's view on the tab conversations. My kind of hand wavy take so far that the tab is still very largely figuring out what what it does where with who would win. So I think it's hard for us to expect a lot quickly. I totally hear you. They need to set themselves up first. I think Katie, you are bridging us both, I guess. Yes, there is me and the card on the tab at the moment. Yeah, as Dave mentioned, there's a lot of defining what the workloads for the tab are going to be and defining those responsibilities is very much still working progress. There's nothing yet precise. I think at this stage we're trying to collect expectations from different groups, what the TOC would expect us to do, what the tags would expect us to do, GB and so forth. And then I presume the responsibilities would be a combination of this, including the skillset that the tab provides. So it's still very much yet in progress. When there's going to be any updates, I'm more than happy to present them and actually share them as well. Real quick on that, actually, TOC members, you probably lost it in all the post cube con flurry, but there is a action in our channel for defining what is the end user tab priorities list from the TOC. We've had a lot of discussions around that, so I'm going to bump the thread so you all can chime in and provide those perspectives so that we can formally share them back to the end user tab. I was going to say the same. I think Dave is right. It's very early, but it's also a good time to push the feedback on what the tab could help with. We have a couple of items like selecting end users for the interviews during the diligence, things like this that can delegate some of the work we have in the TOC. Anything else? All right. So to recap, we've got three issues on the TOC repo for new work to assist the tags. TOC members are going to go through and update their issues for projects moving levels to make sure, one, they are assigned correctly, two, that they are in the correct state, and three, that they have reached out to the project to just give them a quick check in and where things are at. Anything else? Liaisons are out. Liaisons are out, yes. We have new TOC members, so we have new liaison assignments. Not a lot has changed, but we do welcome Kevin and Lynn, and their new assignments as TOC liaisons, so please make sure that you are still engaged with your tags on a regular basis either attending their meetings, thinking up with them after the fact or beforehand, and also making sure that you are reviewing and replying to the tag updates on the TOC mailing list because it is super highly visible across the ecosystem and it's important that we engage with community discussions there so folks can understand the work that the tags are doing and know where to go to get involved. Awesome. Thanks everyone.  Thank you. Later.


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Hey guys, it's Nate, aka the Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel. It is Thursday, just kidding, it's Wednesday, but we're going to be looking at some Thursday flipping investments. You guys might be able to sync your coins into tonight, later today in FIFA Ultimate Team, possibly to make some coins after rewards on Thursday of this week. We're going to talk about the sell time and maybe about a possible promo that could come on Friday, which could create a loading screen on Thursday, possibly even today. There have been loading screens on Wednesdays that have popped in the past, just kind of EA drop something when we're just literally not expecting it at all. So that could come today. I mean, obviously, Wednesday, Thursdays, we're always having the chance for a loading screen when there is a promo that could be coming in the near future. And that promo on Friday could be team of the group stage. But let's say no loading screen comes out today, at least, I do think there's going to be some things that we can buy and sell in that window after rewards. We're going to probably looking at a sell time again of sometime before 6pm UK on Thursday. But hopefully the market can do well this week. We do know right now that this market has a lot of coins. That is no secret. This market has a lot of coins, and people are buying players with those coins, because today, only today alone, we have seen player prices go up on informs, out of pack specials, and even some gold cards. They have gone up a really, really high amount, because we literally got no content today. I mean, a lot of people have coins, so they went out and did SBCs. SBC fought a rose today. Those best of cards went out of packs. Those rows, you can tell people are buying those. A lot of people invested in those. We'll talk about the implications of that this week as well. And yeah, so I want to talk about a few things. We first always, though, take a look at the team of the week predictions. Of course, you might be watching this video, team of the week could already be released. But these are kind of the highlights that I think could get in this week. This is from Patrick, the same guy that we look at his predictions every week. Simple blue on Twitter. Van Dyke is the big name this week. Van Dyke should get in for his performance last weekend for Liverpool. So I do think that card's going to get in. Delhi Ali should get in as well. They had a great game for Spurs. And we're going to talk about how Panic could be a very good place to pick up some weak and weak flips this week. He's got Crestwell in there. He's got Carval Hall, which would be a very welcome site for people looking for a right back to get their players on full 10 chem for some of those La Liga teams, especially if you got maybe an Usman on the right side. You need a link to him and to your your PK maybe or just a lot of Spanish right back is needed. Obviously Carval Hall is not the best card ever, but it's okay. But other than that, the team of the week managers looks really average and looks doesn't look very promising. I would say that there is a possibility that maybe maybe they drop in some bigger name guys. I know a Bomb Yang had two goals. I would not expect for him to get in. But I mean, if they put somebody like an a Bomb Yang in or if they put if they throw some guys in the team of the week that makes you think like, why is this guy a team of the week? Like this is kind of sketchy. He didn't really do that well. Like he didn't have a great performance. Why is he getting in the team of the week? That would raise a red flag in my eyes. Because that could mean that there's something good coming on the weekend because as we talk about a lot of times in these videos, if a good team of the week comes out, if it seems to be boosted, that usually means there's some other sort of promo coming that weekend. If they were really stretching to put some players in team of the week, like sometimes we've had players that get in team of the week for an assist. Like I think Pogba got into team of the week one time last year or two years ago for an assist. And we knew like, all right, something is coming this weekend. So that's something to always watch for when the team of the week comes out. But of course, we're always looking to link investments. A lot of the stuff that's linking to VVD is up a lot already. Robertson Inform, Robertson Gold Card. I mean Fabinho Gold Card. I mean, tons of stuff has already been invested in for the links to VVD. Robertson is like 250? Nah, fam. 260? Yo, 259K for this card is crazy. He was like 200K. He was under 200K before Black Friday. And even when Van Dyke scored that goal, I think he was already coming back down from 220 to like 200. And then he's shot back up this week. If people have invested a ton of coins into these Liverpool links, if that's you, I would I would contemplate taking the money early because there's going to be a lot of panic selling on these cards. I think imagine if VVD doesn't get in a team of the week, imagine the panic on these cards. I do think he'll get in though. But just imagine that if there's no VVD in this team of the week, you're going to have some of these cards drop a ton. And that's going to be a massive, massive buy opportunity. Because the next thing I'm going to talk about is what is low in this market right now? And the answer really is nothing. There is nothing that is like low, that is cheap, that looks like a, you know, what we would call a good buy area or something that we could get into in terms of special cards and on gold cards and in icons, man, because everything this week has just gone up and up from the coin injection on Black Friday and Super Sunday. And then today, this is the market today, 109 points on index special up to 114. No content. What are people going to do?  So that's why you saw a lot of these rise up in price today. This is going to be a place on this top down on the index special. I spend a lot of time here, especially on Wednesday nights looking for deals on the market and scrolling through the team of the week squads and looking through like other special cards and other informs, just kind of, I know their prices and I know that they get low. You don't actually have to know their prices if you don't really want to memorize them, it helps. But you can look through here and say, okay, Griezmann's 412, Decoy's 69, that's really high right now. Now, Goans at 82, that's high. Hummel's 55, that's high. And basically what you can do is you can look through some of these teams. And if tomorrow night at Wednesday, you see a little bit of panic selling, that could be a potential big buy time opportunity. That could be a big buy time opportunity with a lot of potential. If you see some panic selling on some of these cards, that's going to be my game plan, my main game plan is to look for some panic selling on that. And to be honest, this week, I think you can even Thursday flip with gold. I think that the meta gold cards, very popular cards, even some of the ones on a higher budget are going to be very flippable this week. So if you look for some guys in here, are there any examples of guys I might try to flip? Pogba, Pogba doesn't have the hype this year, man. He is a very good card, but he just doesn't move. He doesn't have a ton of hype. Maybe on this side we'll have some stuff, maybe a bail, maybe a Usman, maybe an insignia could be a good weekend league flip, an Allen gold card possibly. But you're kind of looking for maybe a guy like Sterling, or maybe a guy, maybe a gold money, maybe a gold Robertson, maybe somebody in that gold range that's maybe like a 50 to 300K is like a perfect range this week. A lot of people can afford a card like that, especially after all the coins that were put onto the market this week. So that's where I would say is to look, look in kind of that range of stuff as we do get into more of the day on Wednesday, a couple hours before rewards, there are people that sell off their teams and there's a lot of people that bought teams this week. So you might have people if a couple guys sneak into team of the week that are pretty good, you might have some people sell off their teams before weekend league, before their rewards, and especially in the center back area. Maybe you see a guy, if VVD gets in team of the week this week, maybe see a guy like Odomendi go down, but also he might have the possibility of going back up in price too because, you know, if you're going to link a center back to VVD, it's probably going to be this guy. He's like the second best center back in the prem right now in this game. 80 pace, 85 defending, 80 physical. We need some center back Premier League informs. I'm looking at you, Dawkins and Sanchez. Please, my dude, get some upgrades. That would be sick if we had a card like that. So whatever that may be, though, keep an eye out on those special cards for some panic selling in the evening. I want to talk about other panic selling. I kind of already mentioned it with like the links to team of the week. First of all, I think the links to team leak are going to fly this week. Like let's say we've already seen the links to VVD rise, but if there is a usable player that gets in a team of the week, like even a Delhi Ali, there's two sides to this coin with Delhi Ali who already has the screen card, about 240,000 coins. The inform is not going to be as good as a screen. So right now the screen sits at 240, 250. Very rare card is all these screen cards are. He got a plus 10 defense and a plus 10 physical boost from his gold card on this screen version. So the 86 informed Delhi Ali might have similar stats in terms of like pace, shot, passing and dribbling, but the defense and physical will not be as good on his inform. You might see some panic selling around on this card. And if he just gets too low, that's going to be a great opportunity to pick up stuff for Thursday flips. That goes for anything. If we have an SBC that comes out at 6pm UK, and if there's some panic selling because of it, definitely get on and look at some of that panic selling because panic selling in a high market like we have right now creates a fantastic opportunity to make some profit. I made a lot of coins last year on panic selling on Wednesdays or Tuesdays, a couple of days before Thursday, where I would look for panic selling in a market that was going up, and I would buy Thursday flips of the stuff that got panic sold. That happened often with like Felipe Anderson last year got multiple informs. I would end up buying the lower rated version of his inform after it had got panic sold from being announced and being entered into team of the week because that first day of team of the week, and when people go out and they, and they pack cards or they want to get that Felipe Anderson and their team, they want to get the new inform right, but that new inform comes on the market super duper expensive. And everybody goes back and buys the old inform and it also just brings hype to that player getting an inform like, oh shoot, this guy's not too bad. Let me try to get him in my team. So that's a great way to pick up on some panic selling and pick up on some deals on cards. Let's say like this Theo Hernandez gets in team of the week and he gets a 84 rated inform and that 84 rated inform is probably somewhere like maybe 70-80,000 coins. You might see this 81 inform like panic sold down to 30K. That could be a pick up opportunity. Just make sure that there's a big gap between the new inform and the old inform because if they're really tight, really close in price, there's not much room for a rise right there before people will just go ahead and buy that other new inform. So that's kind of a requirement for that, but that's something you could look out for today. And of course I mentioned if we do get some sort of player SBC, if we get another flashback or player moments card, you could definitely see a little bit of maybe some panic selling around that too. Like maybe if we get another center back from the Prem, if they release a center back from the Prem, SBC could cause a little bit of panic selling as well in like an area like Odomendi or something like that. So watch for some panic on that. Of course there's going to be link investments to probably some team of the cards when Team League comes out, the shoot up right away. If you're about that, go for it. If you're not, stay away. But you should see some stuff happen like that. And again, gold cards that I mentioned this week. One place again that you can look for flips this week is going on that players tab, clicking the popular players button on here and just looking at some of the most popular players in this game. Griezmann at 152. I bought this guy for 140 something. He literally didn't move this entire weekend. He's up about 10K from where he was at his lowest point. Yesterday he was 140s. He rose up to like 160. Right now it says 152, which is actually not a bad price. But this is still one of the most desired cards in the game. And I think people just like sold them out of their teams this last weekend. But this is a guy you just can't sleep on any week during Thursday flipping. These high rated meta golds, people have coins and people are buying teams again with these cards. So maybe this guy under 150K is a good shout. He could easily go to like 175 this weekend. And that would be a really, really solid Thursday flip investment that you could sink your coins into. But again, the popular players tab on foot bin, you look at some of these guys, and you see them who are the most searched guys in an ultimate team, Kante, 360, Mane, 327. That's still not that high. I still think he has room to go, especially as his inform continues to creep up in price. Bobinho possibly, maybe a guy like, who else? Who else on here? Maybe Lucas. Lucas has held his price. 9,000 coins. Even through the Black Friday promo, he was 7K. He's already up 2,000 coins. You might see him like over 10K, you know, stuff like that. The OP, the meta stuff that people are using in their teams, maybe golds like a Varan, maybe a Leng Lei, maybe a Numtiti, stuff like that. Keep your eyes out for that. Terstegen as well. Just again, Kyle Walker. Kyle Walker's inform is very, very expensive. So that means probably a lot of people are going to be looking at that 84 rated right back card. Is he like, what, 50K-ish? Just under 50K, 47,000. So that was the perfect search right there. That could be a card that rises this week as people continue to build their teams. Now I want to talk about overall market stuff. I kind of talked about who you could buy. Icon's probably a decent flip as well if it's a meta card, for sure. But I want to talk about some of the effects of a lot of people investing in Best of Team of the Week. So many people invested in these cards, man. Like so many people. This Ben Yetter card was 180K. 180K, when the Team of the Week SBC came out, there was a lot of panic. And this man went low. He went low, low. And a lot of people invested in these cards. And I was a little bit skeptical of this. First of all, just because of how much supply this guy and those Best of Team of the Week cards have. But the demand for the cards and the amount of coins on the market are right now beating that supply. Because these guys have gone up, he was 180, man. He's gone up 50,000 coins. Some of that is investing. Some of that's the link to Fabregas SBC. That's made him go up. But there's a lot of people that have invested in Best of Team of the Week. Diabala, Nygolan, even Inform Manay, Inform Katie B, Inform Mertens. A lot of dudes like that I would be very, very careful with. And I would honestly consider selling into the hype. Yes, you heard me correctly. Selling into the hype. Selling before rewards. Because a lot of people are going to be selling these cards after rewards. There still might be some demand for them. But I think their prices are going to stay pretty level. Maybe go up a little bit. Because there's going to be so many people trying to sell these cards at rewards. But also, that's a good thing for us. And here's why. Those people that have invested in those cards, they probably have a lot of money tied up in their banyetters in their monies and stuff like that. They won't be investing for weakening rewards or as much because they have all their coins tied up in these other Informs already. And when they sell those Informs, they probably have teams to go build themselves. So they're going to sell those Informs, take their money on them or take a loss, whatever it is, and then go build their teams, right? And they're going to be buying the players that we invested in for rewards that are going up in price already. So if you're one of those guys that invested and best up team of the week, I might just take your coins beforehand. And I think there's a lot of people that invested in these cards, judging by how much their their card prices went up. Debala was like 110. And I think he's now like 140, 150 or something like that. Let me figure this out for you. Let me figure this out for you. He's not 240k. Yeah, so there's a lot of me here like 150, that 89 Debala. So, okay, 150. That's exactly exactly where he is. 155, 153. All right, 150, just over 150 for this card. He was 110k. He's up like 40,000. So that means a lot of people haven't invested in him. In my opinion, that's how I feel about it. Yes, it's just a usable card. So it's gone up a little bit. But I feel like there's a lot of over-investing with these as well. This kind of feels similar to me and how the scream promo felt. So many people invested in screams and they went up, but you are better off selling into the hype than if you would have waited and if you would have sold actually after a week and a reward. So I would recommend that maybe you look and maybe you decide to sell on the hype for some of those investments so that you can then invest for Thursday flipping because I really think that's a thing, man. I really think that a lot of people that bought these best of team of week cards still have some part of their week and week team to buy. And that's going to cause some of the market to go up a little bit on Thursday after rewards. So those people that invested for Thursday trying to sell after might not make that much money because of everybody selling at the same time. And then they have to go out and buy their teams still as well. So that's a situation that I would look into when I think I could see happening this week. Again, it's hard to find deals on this high market. It really is kind of hard to find some deals on this market the way that it is right now because everything just keeps trending up. My advice again is just wait and see what EA drops today in terms of SBCs. Look try to find some gold cards that haven't really risen up that much kind of like a guy like Griezmann like this this money isn't up too much and look across the market for informs that could be panic sold in the couple hours before rewards as well. And of course the content that comes today at 6pm UK could create some market movements that we can look out for and that we can make some coins off of as well with panic selling and stuff like that. Remember if you're buying panic selling cards or panic sold cards or link investments, make sure you remember that it's you want to invest to the OP cards invest the links to the OP think about what people are using right now they're using French centerbacks they're using La Liga centerbacks they're using Premier League links French links Brazilian links those are all the best types of players to go and to look into invest in so focus on those few nationalities and focus on those few leagues if just think about the teams that you see and you play against in Weekend League all the people that have to are Steggan, Veran, Langley, Scream, PK, Inform, Someto how are they getting links to these cards and stuff like that. So that's what I have to say about Thursday flipping this week sell time again I think you try to get it out before 6pm UK on Thursday just to be safe we like to be safe if you think that we're not going to get a problem this weekend I think it's like maybe a 60-40 shot 60% that we do 40% that we don't maybe you consider holding later maybe with an icon especially a card that's a lot more rare on the market you could be you could you could be okay to to hold that card a little bit longer and maybe take more of a risk on it because it's just that super rare of a card so that's how I feel about Thursday flipping this week I'm going to be going all in on it as per just because this market has so many coins and I want to be a part of everybody buying their teams post-weekend league rewards this week so if you guys enjoyed this video smash your thumbs up on it comment down below if you have any questions and of course subscribe to the channel if you are new it's been Nate the foot accountant catch you guys later peace out


I don't know why that measured stop This thing is really neat. All right like a couple more times. So welcome to vlog Thursday. We have a new toy. We have a new toy It looks at eyeballs So what this is is a auto ref Caratometer by cannon it's actually here for recycling because it doesn't work right anymore and we have an optometrist as a client and This thing's kind of joystick and it's kind of fun to yeah, and we will play with anything with a joystick It's got a joystick like what are we gonna do with it? And this is the rk3 model, which I think we can all agree is the best of the rk models best of the rk models here Does it have like a manufacturer date on it? It's yeah from a long time ago. Yeah, right? 1996 is when this is made 90 so 21 years old. Yeah, we may do a breakdown videos We'll tear this down before we recycle it so I may do a breakdown video of it because we're curious about all the Little optics and things that are inside of it and how it comes apart So that's a that's another Subject but that we was here So we wanted to play with it and show you guys what we're doing with it We have to yeah, and I can see inside Marvin's eye with it. It's exciting I'm trying to get him to give me a diagnosis of glaucoma so that I can get prescriptions for glaucoma for glaucoma So far so far Tom is not a licensed optometrist though. Yeah, we're gonna work on that But it's got buttons and things that go up and down and a little motors inside of it So we have our own little interest in building things with it. We don't know what we're gonna build up We're gonna take it apart You know, we have the clients fine with it. They don't care. They do whatever you want with it Tom And I said we will does it like it doesn't have the capability to save anything Yeah, yeah, this is before data storage. Yeah, so it's not like it just it'll print stuff out of like what you're doing right away Which is kind of cool. It's numbers. We don't understand but I know it's got all kinds of things And buttons that's there for why I like it. Yeah, I've actually because they're a client We've been there before and they we've got to see how some of the other really new machines work in some of the New technologies and it's really cool. There has to I'm traveling has the joystick there has to be a way We can just turn that into a count like a like can we run like the raspberry pi through it or something I know and make it a gaming console make it a game. That's the first thought then we realized that because everything is analog and physical Not really. Yeah, we have the casing though. We have the casing. We'll figure this out Anyways, yeah back to the other stuff that we want to talk about on vlog Thursday We have been installing many many unify cameras and a big thanks to unify They retweeted one of our install jobs We have some more to talk about because we did a custom job I just haven't had time to do the video on it because when we're busy installing stuff We don't always have time, but it's a combination site-to-site wireless Job with unified cameras over the site-to-sites that's been we have a lot of industrial companies and large outdoor facilities And it's the only way to really get internet across to those facilities with because Directional boring is kind of a pain in the butt due to the size and scope because some of these are several acres big So doing a directional board to get internet to these is not Just not really that reasonable to do. It's real expensive and tell those who don't know what a directional board is Tom That is where you know Here we go. We're gonna have diatoms and stuff You have a machine that goes under the ground and it goes so many feet and has to come up again And what those are is so they can get cabling underneath existing roads without actually You know tearing up the asphalt parking lots and things like that. So that's expensive Site-to-site wireless systems on the other hand are very reasonably priced to connect multiple buildings together So it's pretty cool stuff. We've been doing more of those projects. I just got to finish one of them I I try to put together technical details on it I just flew my drone over the facility So you got some ideas of just how big it is and where the camera locations are And I just got to do the narration part of the video, but like I said, I've been really busy We've also had and I'm in contact with Unify with this because other people are having the problems and are unexplained Cameras that become unauthenticated and the solution simply is to restart the Unify video software Now we've done a lot of these installs and we have zero of them for a long time that ever had an issue one particular site Persistently has the issue Engine's yeah, it seems to kill off the cameras every six to ten hours It's a little bit of variable, but it's also done it sooner. It's done it later It ran all day the other day and then I came in to we're help finalizing some adjustments of the cameras And it was working that morning. I'm like cool. We solved the problem. I'm changing a setting Nope, it broke while I was just in the cameras and I restarted it and it ran again for another 24 hours So but then it decided to quit again. I don't know We're just gonna reload that system and do that. There's a thread that says Unify video 371 Not updating on the unified things if you're experiencing these problems with the unified cameras Join in the messaging of unified. They're trying to sort it out. I'm sending them log files and so are some other people on there Because we don't know the deal the we did two systems at the same time We literally bought all the cameras at the same time. So same order same box cameras Someone to one client something to a client the jobs are fairly identical We even got the same custom-built servers for both of the clients why one works and one doesn't we don't know and neither does unified They don't know what glitch occurred That that leads to this has been a bit of puzzle for sure a very frustrating one too, especially well Not only for us obviously for our client. Yeah for our client So my plan today is to go down there and we're gonna go reload that computer for the client because that seems to be the Solution some people you just start over with the box, which is not a big deal The only thing you have to do is rename the cameras game But we have them names so we can save the name because I'm purposely going to Readopt all the cameras and not actually export the config file and re-import it because that's what someone else did and it had the problem seems To follow the config file we think so So in essence unify did they gave us the did you try turning it off and on again? Yeah Yeah, they're working on it and their support's been responsive I just don't think they know because there's first many deployments as they have There's not many of us having the problem and first many deployments as we've done we don't problem And when we look at the common illusional job, we have bigger jobs. We've done it. I'm a problem We have smaller jobs are having a problem or is the secret the fact that they the exact number of cameras They have is the problem. I don't know Well, that would be weird if you're gonna have five you're gonna have seven just don't do six. Yeah Six is weird number. I don't know that's the kind of puzzles We're there's a small part of me that would like for that to be Just a random like yeah, you can't do sick cameras. Sorry. Yep. You have to get one more on us That's pretty good. Yep YouTube, thank you. We're the gaining and subscribers has been great. We had we're about 7,000 We're close to 7,000. Yeah telling your friends and have them subscribe Get the bell notification going the Thing about YouTube is only as soon as those trying to figure out what people would like to see and we jump around a lot Because we do so many different things. I'm trying to cover the breadth of what we do And I was just didn't think about it But apparently I seen several thousand views on the video where I'm on site actually showing what we do now My trouble is I can't always get permission to film. We have that big chemical factory and I'm willing to But they don't want us filming there. We know them pretty well We might ask but it's going to be a concern I wish we could film all of our jobs that I like doing the onsite stuff It's fun to do the videos and show the behind the scenes of exactly like, you know, we talk about the projects in Large scope, but not in detail Sharing the details is important But I also thought maybe we'll do some more Specific videos of Corey for some best practices for cabling and wiring So a lot of people have questions about that and you know when you've done as many Because I someone right I commented they don't think he cut it off off at the end of rg45 I'm like no when you cut them that often a lot of people think you have to pull them out further No, Corey knows exactly how much needs to be left on the end to do it Yeah, because we test every connection after we do it We we would know if we did it wrong. I would be interested to know how many wires Corey or how many feet actually let's we should do I wonder if we could calculate how many feet of wire Corey has run Well, we actually kind of did that so someone commented on one of the videos and asked just how much cabling went into that and I can actually answer fairly definitively on those because Not not that we bit it by the foot and there's going to be some left over But we know how many boxes that job took and so like one of the cracer jobs took 70 boxes at a thousand feet Wow, that's 70,000 feet of cable and we use pretty much all of it There was like there's little 20 foot runs left in some of the boxes when we're done So I want to know over like over the years I want to find I want to do one of those like like how many times would the wire wrap around the earth I know and it gives you anything about 70,000 70,000 feet that's a job. Yeah, that's what is that that's several miles. Yeah 70,000 feet and that's like 15 miles That's a lot of I know yeah, but either way you can see it's a lot of cable someone else can calculate that Well, maybe Marvin can somebody's going to let me know if I'm wrong. So Everybody's wrong is when you're wrong on the internet. That's for sure I'm going to use technology to do this Um, the proxmox project in the build has been agitating to me So I got proxmox installed we got the build done and that was fun I get cabled and then we ran into some power supply efficiency things I might just do a power supply efficiency video I thought because we started calculating how much the power supplies in it cost and how much noise they make And that was fairly annoying. So we replaced all the power supplies in the proxmox box and I got it built But I'm Understanding now why people want so many guides with proxmox I assume the web interface would be more thorough and it turns out It's not there's a lot of things you can do from the web interface, but you just have to drop to the command line I'm not afraid of the command line. Uh, I just need to get around to Learning all the tools and setting them all up. It's all is this a series of commands I've never done zfs from the command line. Well, I can't say I never have I don't often because I use free nas So I got to get into those little details. Um, I'm trying to decide if I'm going to do the video due to the complexity of it And uh time constraints will I do that video is kind of up in the air at the moment? Um Because I was like cool I'll learn it and maybe I'll switch my stack over to it But I'm less apt to do that because I don't have a team of linux guys and People say oh, it's less professional to run the virtual stack that I have But it's easy to use it's that's a big thing I need to be so it's easy for my guys to manage and use it because they do sometimes They create virtual machines with it and things like that. So anyways before I get too deep in the technical rabbit hole Yes So moving on Marvin's been out knocking on doors Uh, that's been a big thing is the push for sales And we've really been studying it sales because they're a little bit different than other a weird thing Other bdb markets, it's amazing how many companies will stay with their it guy that they hate, you know, it's the Old scenario if you dance with the devil, you know And I think that it has to do with it's like you just have to wait for the pain points I've been discussing with a lot of other it companies, you know Just all the sales strategies and I've really come to it. It's really the the bottom line is knocking on doors Is how you the new leads it's knocking on doors. It's belonging to we belong to the southern way county regional chamber of commerce So our chamber of commerce affiliation B and I limited success Our chamber of commerce and some others have done this as well. Maybe you can talk here's into doing it if you're interested They started their own competition for like some of the networking groups and our chamber Knocks it out of the park and there's how many people in the connection script you go to Wednesdays has Around 30 around 30 people in there and that rivals some large and there's a lot of good leads we get from that So our affiliation with different business associations chambers of commerce and things like that That's one of our methods of lead generation And the other method really is sometimes just stopping by knocking on doors of new businesses and saying hi to them So that's been it's been interesting because we've been trying to figure out I mean, I just don't get a lot of leads from I found your website and want you to come in and rebuild our whole building They hit our website But it's usually when we had a touch point with them first as in, you know, we met with them We handed them our card. We seen them at one of these networking events. That's generally the catalyst for Us getting in contact them. So it seems to think about the sales process. Yeah, a lot of people as I'm finding out Like their uncle does their Support for them.  Yeah, you're not doing our you know Well, any other side of it too is how do you let them know when they've outgrown with their uncle can do exactly Exactly. We're we have a couple clients that we do some consulting work for That have been using some internal people but they're realizing that they're a much bigger company and needs something more serious in there and One of the companies has partners and it's been interesting to us that The younger partners going you guys are a disaster rate and happen and the older people going all this system That's been in for 10 years is fine Well, it's funny you mentioned a couple minutes ago like the you you dance with a devil, you know I won't name names one of the places I stopped at yesterday and talk with them There the person that does their work for them as a friend of the owner of the whatever And I was like, okay. Well, you know, is he doing a good job for you?  Oh, well, we just kind of we try to fix it ourselves. Yeah Okay If you get tired of fiction it yourself Right you go and and we pitched them on some of our managed service agreements and things like that And what they really do is we take care of all the antivirus all the All the things that you need, you know updates antivirus firewall filtering all the websites make sure your employees go into a good place This whole we have an entire stack that we offer to them for a very reasonable price And I say very reasonable um because it's not cheap, but neither is security breaches. Those are real expensive Losing all your data downtime and what happens to your company when your reputation is oh, yeah You can't get things done you can't deliver on projects and internally you're going Yes, because our computers don't work so that kind of thing is um Very expensive to your company and not just in a how much you spent to have the computer guy fix it It's the overall that you have with it that costs a lot of money So some we try to get them to think about it's easy for companies that have had major failures They really think deeply about it if they survived the major incident But it's really hard on other companies that are playing the odds and going We don't have backups in our server and we've never had backups when we don't pay anything and Nothing's ever broke. It's been running for the last three years without a problem Statistically you're playing the odds you're playing with fire, but you're right You may go an entire server cycle from you installed it to you Upgrade and replace it and it never breaks and you you won congratulations It's somewhat like when people make the uh the analogy to flying We're like we're like statistically flying is the safest, you know, if you look at the number and I'm like, okay Yes, I get that but if I'm in my car and my and my engine stops working. I pull over to the side Yeah, I call somebody they come tow me away if I'm on a plane and the engine stops working I crash into a mountain So it may not happen as often But it's so when it does happen It's catastrophic and that's what people realize when they lose their documents We you know, we've got some of these clients that we've been telling them for a long time To do things and they use I will get to it. We'll get to it. Okay. I mean, I can't force them to and Then disaster strikes. Yeah, and then they're and then they're on the phone going. Oh my god. You guys have to save us Yeah, that's always be proactive take preventative measures And that's also a common lead generation disasters and we're not it's just how it works They have enough of a catastrophe They decide after that to completely be proactive with everything and put the man of services in so makes a big difference Yeah Learn from others folks learn from others get ahead of the curve. This is this is the thing where you can very easily You don't even have to learn from your own mistakes. You can simply look around learn from others. There's plenty of mistakes going Yes, I'll need another topic is going to be security. I'm going to do some more security videos Uh, it's just been a really really busy week because uh as much as I love youtube That isn't how I make all my money I make some money off youtube, but I make the majority of money from actually doing it services So sometimes we get really caught up, uh deploying projects So but I got some more videos in a way for those of you that I mentioned that I will be doing them I'm undecided what I'm going to do with the proxmox video, but we are definitely going to do Uh, some security videos because you're a little bit easier and some are going to be just talking about general security For setting up your small business because it's going to be kind of aimed at Other it companies where people may be doing some of their own it So it's going to be some some ins and outs of basics of uh things you need to do We won't get maybe eventually we'll go there where we talk about entire lockdown networks, but that's a very We're in a small business market. We don't do we I mean we do some larger clients that have lockdown networks But it's not it's not the base of it. Yeah, and most people will do that They already know they they worked in the industry and know how to do an entirely lockdown system So I don't think that I don't know maybe it is maybe it isn't our target audience But uh, keep your tinfoil hats on and we'll we'll get those We'll get to the security videos because they are important. They are very uh very fast growing big topic for all this So keep the lizard people from reading your emails. You don't want the lizard people reading your emails They'll use it all against you. That's important We should start wearing tinfoil hats for these these talks That's not a bad thing. You know, what else we got on top. Uh, let's see. What have we been doing? Well, I mean we well we we had our opening. We talked about that things are still we're actually we're keeping this area pretty clean Yeah, since we clean, you know, it's been consistently clean. So you'll you'll notice a this even though we talked about it last week You'll notice a distinct lack of Uh, cigarette butt saga videos because we may have won this one.  Yeah Yeah, we have not made another cigarette butt video for those of you following on the uh, our facebook I don't think I've posted any butt videos to the youtube's. Okay. I'm not sure we've talked about it so many times either way Well, we had plans to do it because we figured it was going to still be an issue But yeah, we'd actually set it up because we were going to interview people and ask them What made it what made them think it was okay to leave garbage in our parking lot Oh and someone commented. I think I replied last time like is there an ordinance? Yeah, there's ordinance against it But proving they did it even with it on camera The police are like really going to bother us with that. We didn't want to upset the police going You know, yeah, can you come and write tickets of people littering? I mean it is a problem, but it's hard to get the police to sit in the parking lot and write a ticket for that So yeah, yeah, but uh, they don't really seem to be coming over anymore Yeah, so we haven't seen any of them in our parking lot.  So like They'll follow you over and leave the envelope.   We think we hope I mean it has been it's been a rainy week So maybe they're just not venturing out You know, it's been it's been a hot and rainy week. So we'll have to see but Um, I think the timing is interesting Absolutely, so we'll have to we'll have to turn our attention to to some other people violating various ordinances Yeah, because it was it was kind of fun and there's part of us that goes But we had fun doing it, right? But the other part is goes, you know, we're happy because it started out as the goal Is just not to have cigarette butts over parking lot and we we've not met the goal, but it's not as satisfying as Especially when we had a whole plan we're like all these interview videos are going to be awesome Yeah, I don't know why you think you can throw garbage around now They won't do it because occasionally there's food wrappers they were throwing out too.  He returns butts on that note We are going to get back to the things we do that make us uh busy. Um I got more stuff. I got more server quotes to send out for clients There's probably a whole other topic is quoting servers, which is a pain because people get sticker shock They see how much all the licenses are for the microsoft server and it's You know people say oh, they could run linux like no no no I work in a real world where the the platform that this client's looking at does have to run microsoft windows server Has to run with a whole series of windows things and those things all have to be licensed in addition to the licensing for the software So the customer's kind of rolling around in the sticker shock of how much the licenses cost because it more than the server itself Yeah, I mean the server's got to be pretty decent and we put a rate array and everything and we specced out a really nice redundant server But what they're shocked is is just how much it's like there's four thousand dollars of licensing They're like there's that much because everyone has to remote into the server Because the software's weird and doesn't have a web portal So it's also making them consider whether or not they like this software It doesn't have a web portal because another one does and the other one had more expensive recurring costs For the licensing because they charge per user software as a service But this one because they don't offer software service You have to host everything on your own server and then each person instead of using client access Everyone has to remote into the server and they require that you set up a terminal server with all these remote access licenses And microsoft well, they they cost money So they're looking at just the licenses on this is like 35 hundred bucks right around there. I think it was for licensing Yeah, so Yeah, that's they're like that's a lot of license fees I'm like, yeah, so the software is cheaper, but you because they rely on microsoft for it instead of a web portal I don't know why you design software that you have to rdp into But that's how this company has apparently designed your product and it's weird. No anyways, what are you gonna do?  Ha ha see what I did there All right next week. Thanks