All right. All right. All right. All right check it man. Hey, man It's e ceo man. I'm here with money Moses man poker and the official miss Jamaica What we doing today? Hey first we're gonna start. I will tell my money problems. What is it rich people problems man? Hey rich people problem y'all we bring the second segment back We know a lot of people been asking for it money most decided to bring it back and so it's going down man So what we got today man? Let me hear it. Yeah first. We're gonna go with Kanye Just over 400k for this mini van. He's been how much over 400k 400,000. Yeah, I don't know man That's some people house man. That's a Texas home right there. That's why I bought a Texas home What's the features in that thing man? Some of the features are got custom seats where they swear I got custom speakers TV big TV for like living room TV But all tools to get him to be in daddy mode Wow You do take all that for you custom one-on-one custom one-on-one mini luxury van from say this being so Wow, I mean does that it take all that to be a dad that all this swerving seats and big screen TVs I'm I guess if you want to move a style guess you have to man I must step my game up when we wouldn't when I'm our kids a little we were at rolling that forward pickup and It had like it was like a four-door and sometimes it's something It's a maybe car. Maybe it make it maybe it don't you know what I'm saying We coming up though together these doors open by itself. They open by itself. Yeah, I got a button opening doors You know y'all. Yeah, I mean poker. How important is it you think to have a $400,000 car dog? I know you got to think big van a van. It's a mini van. It's a father van. You got a boy four kids Yeah, but you don't need that that man. I mean I came out. All right. We didn't have it. What did y'all have? Christ LaVanne growing up. It was a Christ LaVanne. Oh, y'all had one alone. It was gray and ashy, too All my friends in the hills is gray, right? Yeah, it's great. It's nice 10s 10. Oh, it's 10. Yeah. Okay. I see if all my friends the front seat So I want to sit up. You know when I see you Man, what about you miss Jamaica? What did y'all have a van? What y'all have? Oh, I had a trailblazer a trailblazer Shabby trailblazer that would have been perfect travel rate for him. He could have got a trailblazer or he could have got a Durango now you got you talking about four kids though, man I mean and you talking about all your people, you know the people that see him. I probably I don't know where he live But I'm pretty sure he's somewhere LA here in LA. Yeah, probably in Hollywood or Beverly Hills. I mean So can you've been spotted in the whip around LA lately in a one-on-one custom luxury Mercedes Benz Benz? This unless horsepower than the Mercedes. I mean then the Lamborghini. He's usually dry But it comes with healthy price tag more than 400,000. Oh, wow Why not he got it because that's a half a million dollars That's a half a million for a car, but when you're looking at somebody who have billions I have a million to him seem like a what a buck $100 we don't know but we never been there. So how are we gonna know that's true?  I ain't hating on it. Don't know man He has space to carry them kids compared to who driving his sports car. Just give me a Cadillac him who driving He shouldn't be driving every inch of a drawing man. So poker what you got for us today? Well, Carly B Who? Carly B, okay? Cardi B done what? She has paid for the funeral cost of the Bronx fire victims. Wow, that's that's B So that's putting off for her city for sure. Wow. I mean, I wish we had more people like that You know, it's a lot of them that do a lot of things But Cardi B has been doing a lot of things. She does a lot for her arm community and for people Through things that's one thing I've seen a lot of her I think a lot of people do a lot of studies on it's not noticed though. It's not publicized Yeah, and it should be like that. I think she's stay like that Well, everybody should know your business if you're gonna do it do it from the heart now for the public Well, the public reported. Yeah. Well, Cardi B just had another child too And she's still you know giving but she must got that loot coming in But you have pros and cons of that though because I've spoken this before is the fact that yes It's good to do things in silent but then people turn around us at and be like what do you what have you ever done for the city? People talk about it all the time. You know what I mean? I want you to answer this question though Who judging you at the end then people are God God. I said don't matter what they think That's true. Shout out money Moses was saying God is the reason for the season But yeah, so so so Bronx She the it was firefighters that was affected. No fire victims fire victims She paid for the funeral causes of wow and and what did this happen? Did it say? No, it's just in Bronx though. It was vague about it Man anytime you can give back to where you come from it got a few you got that's got to be something to hit you right here Especially with no problems. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Shout out to shout out to her and obviously wish I can do it Oh, yeah, man. What what it mr. Baker? What what coming in? What what do you got? Well, what I have is former NFL player Ed Worder, okay, he tweeted and said 26 years without an NFC championship game appearance He's talking about him cowboys He said Everyone everyone wants to say it's Jerry's fault and I'm not a firm believer in that I think Jerry put together some pretty good football teams over the years I mean at some point the players have to win the games Whose fault is it for losing Jerry's or the team Jerry? Why would you say to it's your team? So, but he's not out there playing but Jerry call place from the Jerry be calling place from the from the booth You know that Okay, but not to be under which no, I'm not gonna say Jerry I'm say it's the office of coordinator because they needed a different offense because the offense that deck need to run They're not running it like that is like a spread quarterback. You need to be in a spread offense I guarantee you that will be the best quarterback in the NFL. They get a spread offense well one thing I love about being a Cowboy fan and being in the Dallas area and understanding that the power that comes with being a Dallas Cowboy fan Is that we still be? America's number one team no matter I don't see why not I We paved the way we are the Cowboys and at the end of the day respect what we have done our legacy is to be held true Fans know that next year you will be in the Superbowl. Don't even try Let me answer this cuz I got I had a conversation The other day with your brother about about cowboy fan.     I want you answer these I guarantee they got people in their family members They need help with something but you want to spend your energy on being somebody over the cowboys game Man shout out to KL see that's crazy. Shout out to KL KL see shout out to Charlemagne the God Shout out to Jay Z shout out to yeah all these people this cowboy fans You gotta stand up for you for the cowboy. Don't stop fight fight fight. There's a song. I think they go with that No, that's a problem. Stop fight fight. No, okay. Well back to the question though Do you think that Jerry is the head? I think the Jerry is of the problem Is Jerry the head? No the owner. Yeah, like do you view him as the head of the cowboys? I think he's a Is the reason for the season? I think what Jerry's done with that team is phenomenal I love the fact that you know the pair all of the stuff all of the the Caps and jerseys and the new ways that they Advertise and every year Jerry stands up to the plate and do different things that makes the team to stand out and Capitalize off marketing dollars. He's a great businessman. You said a lot, but you never asked that question Yeah, I'll ask a question for you Jerry say less and you'll win more Well, I was always told that you can only go as far as the head. So Jerry could be the problem Well, I don't think Jerry is the problem. That's what you're trying to come up with anyway Jerry's the problem man Keep the team listen.  He need a spread office. I'm telling you I'm glad you did this. Oh that got a lot of support. They got a lot of fans Well moving on we got One more subject that can a different office and watch what happened Mike Tyson say never got paid for that exhibition fight with With Roy Jones to this day. He's still waiting on his money. What do you think about that? Rich people problem. I mean vital. I think that's his fault. They holding this money up I don't like that. I thought that they're supposed to get the money up front before they do anything They supposed to get some up front and and some after well Well, he ain't gotten his he ain't got none. All right. He's just saying they holding his money They holding his money up. He went through it with the bacon. He did He went through it with Don King where they messed, you know, he had to go to prison for Allegations of rape or whatever the case may be. This guy has been going through it He it's a money always become a problem with him when he dealing with this boxing But when you deal with acting see they on in hangover they paid him You never said it in payment hangover but in In this box in the ring where people where people are they know they they can misuse Mike So here they go tripping. So then they ask him do he want to fight Jake Paul? I Don't know about that. That's it. I don't wait for the only way you go Mike Tyson fight Jake Paul if they pay him all the money. He'd be old first And then get his money.   You don't want none of that smoke. You don't want none. That's You cannot bring a gun to a fight. Hey, my hands been dilly-dally for I even picked up a gun man That man been knocking that's why I had to pick up a gun black guys been running up on Jake Paul getting knocked out That don't make no sense what you just said. What do you mean your hands been deadly? That's why you had to pick up a gun. No, the gun is more deadly Street Steph, you know, he said that's the reason why he had to pick up his gun.  Oh, that is facts though. I know that I had to pick up a guy They wouldn't fight no more still when somebody one fight me.  It don't matter. They fight me one-on-one out. They're gonna bring a gun with them Why didn't you just put that energy into like professional box because I when I moved to Dallas? I was I was like 21 So I was like I didn't start really Think about boxing to after like 25 or 26. It could have started late But I could have but I didn't get I didn't actually get into it boxing to like later on like I want a box now But it's too old you just you started rapping now Yes, that's easy. I can sit in the garage and do that Let's talk about country Wayne for a second the other week We had phase on love on the show and he was saying that he said country Wayne didn't what wasn't getting residuals for his for what he does and basically kind of questioned the fact that he was really making money in comedy and You know poker, what do you think about that? I? Mean I don't understand why people are not getting paid for a word Well, he he seems to be doing quite well when you see him his drip on the show He pulled out the money. I mean club first of all money can be rented. So you think that money can be bought now country Wayne making money. I know you know I'm saying so like he probably making money They probably making money. He wanted me that he think he should be making he got a team of people around him as well He having to feed a lot of different lives man. I like what he did The row and all and what did he do change his character which one from drip to whatever I mean not from from country Wayne drip. Well, he got drip country. Well, he got the old man He got three or four. I'm like, but he put now. He put in drip like up front. No He put in drip or drip just more his I think and then his he's more outspirited, you know, you've seen drip That's the better. That's the best one. Yeah, but that don't mean the other old man don't get down He's still buying all get down with the best to me. They all get down. Yeah, they all get down with drip Just the best man I think hey country Wayne country Wayne is one of them guys and there's nobody we got Cheetah as my I'm coming on the show this week. So I get to ask him What do you think about country Wayne and and just ask him about the ins and outs What I respect the most about country Wayne is the fact that he put God in a lot of stuff man I love it and it's it's clean comedy, right? comedy And the fact that we heard from inside sources that he does pray before everything and Like us we pray before I admire that. Well, that's what you should do. Hey, man a family that prays together Hey, man. So hey, man, that's that's a great segment you guys y'all came up with some hell of a topics Basically we're gonna be doing rich people problem poke up once a week so you can come in and help us with that So on Sundays or Saturdays if you get a break come through and we're gonna do a segment of rich people problem You guys will hear this. This is money Moses segment He brought this week when we first started we decided to bring it back you guys Let us know if it's somebody that y'all see out there. That's rich with a problem and we'll be sure to and not y'all problems Oh, they may be rich though. I was just about to say they might be rich check it man. Hey, man. Hey, man Thank you guys. I'm tuning in


Hello, my name is Daniel Jaff. I'm working for Deutsche Telekom and would like to welcome you to my talk about vanilla and distributions and how they differentiate. So, let's start. What means vanilla in this context? I would define this for this talk as upstream without any private changes and it's taken from obviously Git in this case or from some release packages. But it's important there are no private or propriety changes within. So, sounds great, right, in general. But let's take a deeper look onto that. If you start for your organization with evaluating if you probably choose vanilla or distribution you should, you know first what your requirements are really and what's your use case. So, you may consider topics like which top feather you need. In this case, simply I would say open stack and obviously you also need storage and in my presentation I assume here to use Zephard and you need a basic operation system including stuff like the kernel and the hypervisor and so on. And you should also know which specific components you probably need in your project from OpenStack. And also what kind of features for example from Ceph like Ceph S or which SDN controller you need or which hypervisor you want to use and probably also which API versions of whatever. And for sure there are also types of operational requirements you have in an organization like do you want to use CI CD or topics like automation and for sure also topics like all the management of release cycles, updates, upgrades. If you have requirements for special SLAs in your organization and for sure also topics like support for your cloud. That means internal and external support. But you also have always topics like constant efficiency and probably also legal topics. I come later to that. The second point you should consider is your organization itself. And I have to say even with full automation of your stack you absolutely need experienced operators and for sure also very likely developers. Our experience is that without that you can't use vanilla. And you maybe also need to change the mindset of the existing people depending on how old your company is, what the operators and developers did before. And you for sure need also to change a lot of processes. Another topic you need to consider as the community if you use vanilla. And you need to think about how to fix bugs you find and how to add features you have and which are not implemented currently upstream for example. It's very easy, you should simply participate in the community. That would be with vanilla the only way to do it.  You open blueprints and simply get feedback and you also start reviewing stuff that other people do. Without that you will fail with running and vanilla OpenStake. But what then? So typically open source developers do either what they are interested in or what they are paid for. So if you, that's applies to the most of the open source communities. So if you have a bug and nobody of the upstream developers are interested in this topic or don't see the problem then you probably very likely end up and doing it yourself. So you need to be prepared that you may fix or implement the stuff yourself otherwise probably nobody will do it if it's not attractive enough or somebody has the same problem as you and is paid for fixing it. So with that in mind let's take a deeper look onto the components. First on OpenStake we have these six core projects, core services which are really mature and also widely adopted in many environments that's Swift, Keystone, Nova, Neutron, Synder, Glance, you all know it. But besides that there are some optional services which are not fully mature which are simply not considered core services for that and are not that widely adopted. You may ask why this list is that short that simply because these are packages that are really projects that are supported by distributions at least by the distributions I checked. So if you would discuss about OpenStake then the question is always automation. One option would be write your own. Yeah, you can do it sure but only if you want to end with an epic fail because for sure you can't write that on your own and with each other update you will stuck with adapting stuff and changing stuff and from our experiences that likely ends in a big fail and you stuck with the version you have. So what does the community, the most of the, at least as our experiences is Ansible, Puppet and Chef currently or Croba and that is the most of the stuff that's done so do you maybe ask what about fuel and chujul? Yes, it's maybe also an option from my experience if you use Miranthus or Canonical because 96%, 69% of the code is from these companies so it's probably the best you stick at least for chujul with Canonical and probably also for Miranthus with fuel. But even then, if you take the automation from the community you probably even then end with code that doesn't fit you and it's maybe something missing or it's not applying to your automation or to your environment. So it can also happen that you take a lot of time or need a lot of time to even bring up your cloud environment and I have, for the most people that did automation and our environments on our own or did use Vanilla it took at least a half a year to get it running for a news case so and you maybe stuck longer with the release of OpenStake than you think. So especially if you have to fix automation stuff on your own and do a lot of stuff on your own. And very likely that means at the end that's a lot of work for yourself. So let's come to Ceph and Ceph you have at least two parts that are really mature, that's Rara's block devices and this Rara's gateway object storage interface. These are considered as mature and the other one is Ceph of S that's not that mature but it's on the way to be enterprise-worthy. So what about automation of Ceph? I can only say check what I said before so it's applying again don't do it yourself. And then you can choose from either self-deploy or you could use Ansible Puppet and Ceph that's what it's available in the community. Yeah for sure it's also true, but that is what the community is mostly doing. So what are the alternatives to using Vanilla? It's simply using one of the distributions. I choose here for the presentation, Rattat, Susie and Mirandis and Ubuntu, meaning Canonical. I left every other like HP solutions out of that. So the question is what is the preferred solution for your company? So usually I would say if you are only for example in Rattat shop it's probably Rattat so but if you are free to choose you should take a deeper look on the distributions. So let's take a look on Rattat. For the OpenStake stuff, they have a product called Rattat OpenStake platform, it's version nine and it's coming with MetaCar and it's based on their Enterprise Linux version 7.2. And the kernel version on this product is 3.10 but don't take it wrong, that is not an old kernel. That is probably, there are a lot of patches than a high number of patches. So for enterprises it's not always needed to have the latest greatest bleeding edge kernel. So it's from the number and old kernel but there's a lot of features from newer kernel versions. And the available hypervisors are KVM, vCenter, ESX and Docker via OpenShift. If you use this solution you're stuck with that or you have to use one of these. For deploy event they use OpenStake director with triple O and Ansible. You have also the opportunity to use PecStake instead but it's recommended to use the OSP director for that. If you take a look on what's really supported in with an OpenStake from this distribution from Red Hat it's that is true for all of them. The core services are all supported. Six core services are all supported by all distributions but they differentiate by what they support otherwise. So with Red Hat it's only Silometer, Heat, Horizon, Orionic and Sahara as will be supported to get full support. And for the gray runs you get a technical preview so it's probably maybe fixed if it's important to get it for the next release ready but you also have a set of services that are currently not supported with the product. Fuel is only in general only supported currently by Miranta Soy that's very clear but from the rest the most of them are also really services that have a very low number of maturity and so one or two in the papers and that's probably the reason why they don't support it. The life cycle of the product is that they provide packages for every upstream release. So the next one will be Newton obviously because they currently support Metaka and so you can get an update with every version and there are additional products recommended as I said before OSP directors as one of them. Satellite is also recommended to manage a lot of stuff around the products and cloud forms. Let's take a look on support. That's very different between all the distributions and Red Hat supports in the first year you get full support. That also means you probably get a new feature if you agree on it and get a lot of updates but in the additional two years they say you still get support for bug fixes basically. So if there are bugs you get a fix but you don't get back port for driver or packages and no install updates. I said before one topic is always cost and here the pricing is based on socket pairs and machines and as with all the distributions it highly depends on what you are kind of support you want. Do you want to have only support within the business hours or do you want to have 24 seven or do you want a special SLA and very short reaction times. So and it also depends in this case on if you are running real guests in your system or not. So I didn't put any numbers on that because it's really hard to compare and to be honest the default prices are usually not that what you pay at the end. So if you are interested in prices go to Red Hat, Susie and whatever and us. If you take a look on Ceph they provide providers called Red Hat Ceph Storage. It's version two and it's basically a jewel release also based on rail or you have to choose you can use Ubuntu 16.04 for that. That's deployed via Ansible or via Red Hat Storage Console. Ceph FS is available but only as a technical preview and it will be supported in next release probably. It's planned at least. Pricing I said that partly before it's based on yearly subscription and it based on raw capacity with a load limit. You can't have really large nodes. There's a limit in it and but it's raw capacity. It's you can discuss if that's what you want. So you need to decide it on your use case if you have a lot of storage there and it's not full then it's probably a little bit expensive. And there's also a pre-production subscription available for a low price you can use and can test it and you will still get support. Let's take a look on Susie. The OpenStack product, at least the version announced today was OpenStack Cloud 7 and it's coming with Newton and it's based on the latest SP2 from Slash 12. And the kernel version here is 4.4. They switched from SP1 that was 3.13 or so. Switched with the new release to 4.4. And you have a high number of hyper-wise supported. It's KVM, it's Zen, Hyper-V for Windows, VM Bear. It's also IBM set VM and it's Docker. The automation is done via Krober and Chef and the services supported are these. The difference to Rated in this case is also that they support basically Magnum and Manila but Ironic is only a technical preview and they also support Tempest. The life-cycle management or the product life-cycle from Susie is different to all the other distributions. They only take every second upstream release and concentrate on making that stable and providing a stable product and then jump over one and it's supported to switch between and they make sure that you can switch between them so the next release will be release in this case. There are also a list of recommended tools in this case, Susie Studio for example, to build appliances and Susie Manager and for KVM and Zen instances that are not cloud-ready you can also have these less high extension that's basically handling old, not cloud-ready applications and make them high already, HA already, sorry. The support is at least 27 months, it's a strange number, right? So it's two years and three months after the product released. From the pricing, you have different prices for a control node, for an admin node and you have the compute nodes that are like with Red Hat, a socket pair based so if you have more than two sockets in your machine you have to pay another subscription and it's also depending on the type of availability of the support services. With SEV, we have the Susie Enterprise Storage Solution and it's also based on Jule and is using a Calamari as a front-end to monitor it and it's deployed either through CROBA or in the future it will be deployed via Salt but that's currently also a technical preview. Features in this case are also like with Red Hat, ZFFS as a technical preview and there's also an ISCSI gateway to connect Windows VMs or VM-ware VMs to your ZFFCLOS node. Pricing is a little bit different to the other ones. Here you have a set of basic subscription and then you pay for additional nodes. There is one difference to all the other distributions if you have features that you need that are upstream features that go upstream, you don't have to pay for them. If you agree with them, it's part of the subscription so every other distribution probably shards you with whatever it is per mandate implementing and doing it but Susie says that's all included in the subscription because all other users or customers of us will also have something from it and then so you don't need to pay. So let's take a look on Mirantis. They are also based on VTACA but they are the only distribution that don't maintain on basic OS or on base OS. So you can choose between for the controller nodes is only Ubuntu, either 14.04 or 16.04 and for compute nodes you can choose between Ubuntu, RAL, Oracle and Susie. Not sure if that's very common to run different base OS in your cloud but you can choose it that there are cases where our customers need that. The corner base basically depends on the base OS and the supported hyperwizards are KVM, ZAN and VMRARE. Deployment via a fuel, I said it before and the list of supported packages are these. They basically also support Moran what's one of their projects basically and they have no packages which are considered technical preview and not fully supported. Life cycle as this read had every upstream release was in one or six between one and six months after release and the next one will be with Newton in the next year. It's recommended to use the stack light for monitoring and so on and probably the partner catalog they provide for stuff like billing and so on. They supported three years their product and the pricing depends on your base OS basically. So for Ubuntu it's per machine and for RAL it's per socket pair and I guess it's the same for Susie but there was no information on that so with Ceph it's a little bit different to the R1s. It's part of the OpenStack distribution not of the base OS and currently it's Hammer. Ceph Hammer with Ubuntu and it will also be in the next release. So it's a little bit older. It's one stable release behind what the R1s are using and deployment also via a fuel token and due to the fact that it's Hammer it's only RBD and RALS gave it a support. So it notes with Ceph's support. Pricing is for Ceph based on gross capacity. So let's come to Ubuntu. The OpenStack product is also Newton based and it's Ubuntu 1604 and the kernel is S now with Susie 4.4 based and the hypervisors that are supported are KVM, Hyper-V and LXD. So let's, I have to say, let's get one thing out of the way. The canonical OpenStack solution is probably not what you expect to be the same as the Ubuntu OpenStack. That's very confusing or is often confused by people that saying Ubuntu is widely used and the product is widely used. But in fact, between the most upstream developers, it's the community version that is used. So the enterprise version is basically using also Juju and Mars while the most community developers are using probably DevStack, Puppet, Enzymil or Chef to do their product. So if there are numbers in some poll to check how many users are using Ubuntu, that's probably not the same as using the enterprise product. The supported services from the additional services currently only Cylometer and Horizon are really supported. Probably surprising for some people. The other ones, most of the other ones are unsupported as technical preview. So it's not fully supported for production. Life cycle is every upstream release and the recommended product is Lenscale for system management and security compliance and auditing and the support, to be honest, I find it really complicated. Generally, the LTS version is five years supported but within the LTS release, you can have updates or have new OpenStack releases. But these are only then one and a half years supported and even if you are on an LTS version, at the end of the lifetime of the LTS version, you get an update to the OpenStack version that's part of the next LTS and that's then three years supported. So I don't know, it's a very complicated matrix to find out what really is currently supported with the product and how long is it supported. The pricing is per node and year or per VM and hours. They have a lot of different models or per OpenStack regions if they are small or large, medium and so on. And as with the others, it's highly depends on what kind of support you want. With SAF, they provide a product called Ubuntu Advanced Storage with Joule and a tool called Ubuntu Performance Dashboard to check what's going on on the cluster and see where you have performance problems probably. The pricing is based on used capacity. Sounds nice. In general, from my point of view, you have three potential issues. Landscape and Ubuntu Performance Dashboard have a non-open source license as a proprietary license. So whatever happens when canonical goes bankrupt or something like that, or probably it's an even compliance problem for you. So you should know that. And the other one is the kernel and I would say it's at least a controversial integration of CFS. You probably followed the discussion in the community, built your own opinion on that, it is at least controversial. So there are probably problems for you. So let's take a look on how would you assess which distribution can provide support for your project, for your cloud environment? So marketing, just kidding. Retoric question. So if you are lucky, you made your own experiences. So if you are already probably a Ubuntu shop or a ASUSU or a Red Hat then you probably stick to that and you know what you get. Or you know somebody that can say that's good or that won't work or whatever. So if you have a lot of time or at least have some time and have the resources, I would really recommend evaluation of the products and do a POC. All of them provide their enterprise product for at least 60 days or so to download and test it and get all updates. So use it, install it and make your own experiences with that before you stick one with one. Because I have to say, everybody says it's probably easy to switch from one to another or from vanilla to a distribution, but that's not true. So it's not very easy to fix. If you have something in production, you don't change that easily. So another indicator would be to probably take a look on what is the contribution of these distributions to the core components of your project. So probably on OpenStack, on CIF, KVM, Kernel, whatever. I put some numbers together. Let's take a look on OpenStack. These are the commits between the Grizzly and the current O-release or upcoming O-release for the core projects. As you can see, currently Red Hat bit the most and Mirantes is coming up. The other ones depends on, looks the same for the selected OpenStack optional projects. In this case, yeah, build your own opinion. I also took a look on how many reviews are done. So for me it's also important that if you don't, you should also participate in bringing the project forward. And one of that would be to review bugs or to do reviews. And that's the numbers from the core and the former optional projects. To be honest, it still looks the same. The only difference is the bug-fixed ratio. I checked how many bugs are opened by the distribution and how many are fixed. It doesn't mean that they fixed what they opened, but you get an idea on the behavior of the distribution. If they only open bugs and wait for it, that somebody in the community is fixing it or if they are going and fixing. I also took a look on documentation and translations. That's one of the numbers. And surprisingly here, Susie is really concentrating on that and bringing forward the project documentation. If you remember some years ago, the documentation really sucked. And at least they are doing this work, reviewing, checking what is missing and what's wrong and fixing it. So let's take a look on Seth. It's the same colors, but it looks a bit strange as well. As you can see, you only see currently Miranda, Susie and Redhead. Obviously, I mean, it's a Redhead project. The numbers for Redhead are from Ink Tank and Redhead together. So there are some competes from Canonical, it's 28. Over all the time, over the complete project. Let's take a look on the kernel. That's for all the kernel releases, for the standard kernel releases and the standard Linux 3. That's generated from the tool that's used by the community for making the release informations together and who contributed how much. So here, you obviously see that Susie and Redhead are the most active, but also even Miranda's contributed. What I did is I checked out all the stable trees and checked if there is something different because I expected if you have an LTS kernel for distribution ever, you stick for some time with that and you probably hit the box and you need to fix it. So I checked it, but to be honest, it makes no difference. It's still the same behavior. And if you take a look on KVM and LibWord, in this case, it's LibWord and QEMO Git repositories because KVM is already in part of the kernel. So that's called by that and it looks the same. So I'm at the end of my presentation. You can download the presentation from GitHub and simply scan the QR code and yeah. I'm open to questions. Could you take a microphone or so that's to get it on the video stream? Is there a microphone for the audience? Yeah, then say it and I repeat it. Just comment. It's serious. The contribution is serious from Canonical Ubuntu when it comes to packaging, preparing Debian packaging while they haven't included the support of so many non-core OpenStack services in their distribution. Question is what is supported, right? I mean, if you pay support, the real question for you as a distribution is what is really supported and that's in here. So yes. Yeah, another question. So have you compared the installation? Do you have a firsthand experience, time, complexity, anything? So I would recommend to check the presentation from Florian Haas from Tokyo for that. I didn't do it again. That was basically evaluation and it was not what, how long one needs and what's good. So he did a very good presentation on that and I would recommend to check that, this one. Politically correct, we use Ubuntu. Canonical, Canonical, yeah. We are using Canonical. At least for the project I'm working in but there are parts in the company that are using Huawei as you heard before was underneath Susan. And there are also parts in the company using Red Hat. So it's the project I'm working on that's using Canonical. It's not the company, it's the big company. It's fine, okay. I just said that in our company we use Mirantis Fuel without their support. We use it by ourselves and we pretty much like it but are there any other distributions that can be used for free? With fuel? Not necessary with fuel. So, sorry, I didn't get the question. I mean, are there any other distributions that can be used also for free? There is obviously Ubuntu for free. I mean, Ubuntu, not the commercial thing, the community thing. You can use it or you could use DB and whatever. Yeah, make you happy, it's no problem. I don't know if Fedora and OpenSuzi are really concentrated on OpenStack but there are packages. So for sure there is OpenSuzi with packages and I guess there is also Fedora with packages for OpenStack, that's not the question. They are available for sure. Sorry? Or RDO, yeah. RDO, you read it.  Yes, and all of them provide a way to run them with OpenStack. Yes? No, I left them out. There are two, for me there are two specialized on very special topics. So that I mean before was you need to know your use case. There are use cases for using probably the HP products or some other things. But I concentrated for this presentation on the four major distributions. But to be honest, I didn't check it because we did the evaluation on our own. So it's our own requirements and it was a very long list. Any other questions? No? Then thank you.


In this game, I will be asking a popular YouTuber the price of 10 Yu-Gi-Oh cards. Their goal will be to guess the price of each card as closely as possible. For each dollar away they are from the correct answer they receive a point. As points add up, the lower the price. Today we see if your favorite YouTuber can win the $1,000 grand prize. Distant Coder is one of the most well-known Yu-Gi-Oh streamers on Twitch. He is known for his extensive knowledge of Yu-Gi-Oh gameplay and card rulings. He is a dueling book Yu-Gi-Oh judge and his ruling quiz and deal or no deal series. Today we find out if he knows his Yu-Gi-Oh prices. What's up guys? We're back with another episode of Guess That Price. This is episode 10 with Distant Coder. How are you doing today, man? I'm doing good, bro. How are you? I'm doing great. I've got this list barely in time. I mean, we're like, what, 26 minutes late when we're supposed to start recording? But it's going to be awesome because, what, are you going to be gauged? Let me know. Are you going to do it? It's time to cook, bro. I believe in it. I believe in it. I hope you can do it. He is by far the number one right now, and then we got to talk about the other end, Farfa. He is by far the worst. So will you be Farfa or will you be gauged in a good or bad way we're about to find out? I'm aiming for something right smack dab in the middle, bro. That's what I'm aiming for. Okay. Super average. That's what we're looking for. All right. Question number one. I've already talked to you about the rules. You pretty much know how they work. Reinforcement of the army, secret rare first edition from Magnificent Mavis. This is a pretty new card. Do you know the price? Okay. So I know that some of the Pharaoh's rares from Magnificent Mavis are money. I know the crystal bonds. I actually know the crystal bonds of that set because I actually have one and from memory it was like 90 bucks. Now keep in mind this is going to be rough for me because I Canadian dollars, US dollars. You might want to get out there translated over type in 90 Canadians and see what that is USD. It's fine. Say I'm not a problem with that too. Oh yeah. There's no problem. Typically when I deal with cards, I deal with it in USD even though I'm in Canada. So I know crystal bonds from memory is something along the lines of 90 USD. And I feel like Rota is probably more than that. The way I'm thinking here, I'm thinking Rota is probably going to be along the lines of like 120 to 150. That's where like my ballpark is at. I feel, I feel fairly confident with this one. I'm going to drop it at a solid $120 and I'm locking it $120. You're already pretty confident on this one. You at least have looked at some fair or rare prices. So you have an idea of where these might be. Coder, this card is 120, oh, wait, sorry. I'm reading your answer. Wait, that's not right. I thought it was insane. I was like, I'm crazy. Coder, it is not $120. You're not doing too bad though. It's $84. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I think that these, when I looked at the little chart on TCG player, this thing has like tanked. So it probably was at one point around that. But it seems like, I don't know when you check the crystal bond price or the crystal beast or whatever. But I feel like these have come down quite a bit since it's a pretty new set. But still, you're really not that far off.  So not a bad start. I've seen a lot worse. Okay. Now I checked the crystal bonds. I think it must have been like a week or two after the release of the set. Yeah. That probably came down. That's probably why. I don't keep up with prices. I check them one time and then they just stick. Yeah. You got to keep that in mind. But I bet the other ones down too then, because there's no way Rota is less than that card probably, right? Yeah. Because it's so generic and stuff. But okay. Let's go to question two. You're doing fine. Not great. Not terrible. That's where I, where you want to be, right? That's where I want to be. I want smack dab in the middle or chilling. All right. Number two. Here we go. Chaos Space Collector Rare, first edition from Toon Chaos. Bro, this is hard because the only Collector's Rare from Toon's Chaos that I actually know the price of is like Gamma and Gamma is like $400 or something like that. Gamma is very expensive. Yeah. But Gamma, Gamma I feel like is like an outlier. Like what other Collector's Rare are there? There's like the Toon cards, right? So you got like the bookmark or whatever in Collector's Rare. But those are, again, those are Toon cards. They're like always expensive because of anime, woohoo. Yeah, there's like, there's like the Chaos sponsors like Chaos Emperor Dragon, Black Cluster Soldier, Toon Black Cluster Soldier, Stardust is in there. There's a bunch of stuff like that. Well, like Chaos Space is like an extremely playable card. Right. It's the thing. Yeah. One of the few out of that set. It sucks is the only one that I actually know the price of is just Gamma and it's so expensive. But I'm like, there's no way Chaos Space is like $250, $300, but there's no way. There is just no way. I think the Gamma is like $500 or something insane. It's something like absurd. Like it's $400 plus easy. And I can't imagine there's another card in that set that even comes close to that. I feel like Chaos Space could definitely be like $200 Collector's Rare. That could be a thing. $150 would also be realistic. I feel like below $150 for a Toon Chaos Collector's Rare doesn't make a lot of sense. That wasn't the set with the Nightmares, right? The Nightmares were in the same set as the Droid Trons. Yeah, it wasn't. There was no Nightmares in the set from what I know. I think that was Gemini Impact or Genesis Impact, whatever it's called. Genesis Impact. Yeah, I think that was it. I know that the Nightmares are like fairly cheap if I remember right. I feel like Chaos Space is going to be somewhere in the middle of the pack here. So you're thinking of Tier 2 is what you're saying? I'm getting a $200 vibe from this one. I'm not going to lie. I am feeling Tier 2. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling Tier 2. Okay. I am going to be slapping Chaos Space right at the $200 mark. Lock that sucker in and I think we're going to be okay. Yeah. All right, we'll lock it in at $200. So far, pretty confident guesses on both of them. Let's see how it fares for you this time. Last time, not too bad. Question number two, you'll think of Tier 2. Chaos Space, collect your first edition from Tomb Chaos. You guessed $200. It is $192. Let's go! Oh my God, I'm crazy. Okay, you nailed it. So with your bonus, because you know you get the bonus for being in the right tier, you have now added back $2. So you're doing great. We're chilling. Okay. Awesome. I'm chilling. Yeah. When you said $200, I was like, oh my gosh, he's right on it. And then you said $150. I was like, ah, don't go that way. And then you came back. I was like, all right, nice. I mean, yeah, because Tomb Chaos is just one of those things. Like, it's a set that not a lot of people really liked. But some of the cards in there are like super chased after stuff like gamma stuff like Chaos Space. So I can imagine that the cards in the set, there's none of them that are like middle of the pack. They're either 150 plus or they're like pennies. Yeah, this set was interesting because it was like kind of short printed because like COVID and then everyone was hyped up about it. So a lot of people pre-ordered it and then it turned out to be kind of a dud on a lot of fronts. So yeah, they're expensive boxes, but not too many cards that actually make your money back. But this is one of the big ones. So that was a good guess. We're going on to question three. You're kind of doing well. I thought you were supposed to be in the middle of the pack here. Okay. You might have to slow down there, buddy. We're there. We're chilling. We are okay. We have our question of protection. Okay. Question number three. Coder, royal decree super rare from tournament pack six. Oh my God. My God, my God, my God. Okay. So I have not dabbled in goat format very much, but the little that I dabbled in goat format, I played a Horus the black flame dragon deck that also played royal decree. And when I just so you can use nothing, you can't use spells. You can't use traps.  Yeah. And when I built it, friends of mine who dabbled a bit more in goat told me royal decree at the time was like super fricking expensive and no one ever had three because I think it only came in the tournament pack initially. Or was it that was that another set? I don't know. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let me give you a little background here. Yeah. Yeah. Give me the backstory to this one. Yeah. So royal decree originally was a tournament pack for ultra rare. They reprinted it later in turn of pack six, which is what I'm asking you as a super rare. So the the one they were talking about was the tournament pack four and you could only get it as an ultra rare. This one was the next print. The super rare. Okay. Okay. Tournament pack super rare royal decree. TP six. It won't be as much. I feel like it so it's not it's not the max rarity royal decree. So it probably won't be like mad stonks. Okay. Rexon, I'm going to ask you something. You tell me if you could answer it. Can you tell me what like the the ultra rares or whatever were in tournament pack six. Yeah. Okay. I can tell you that. Okay. So tournament pack six in tournament pack one three way. They only had one ultra percent. Yeah. So in tournament pack four, it was the royal decree tournament pack six was I believe the tune cannon soldier. Oh, and then there was four. There's four supers. So there's like a usually 20 packs per box. There's one total ultra, but it's one in 108 packs for that and then it's one in 18 for a super rare and there's four different supers. I think that will make this royal decree not that expensive. I'm definitely thinking tier one and I'm definitely thinking it's something like it's probably like 60 or under. I feel like it won't be above like the $60 mark unless there's like some additional backs or like this specific tournament pack six possible to find this specific set was only only sent to Brazil or something like that. Okay. That's there's none of that, but it is the sixth tournament pack set. So I will tell you that they started with this is just regular tournament pack and then they became a champion pack astro pack or turbo pack astro pack than OTS. So this is the first set of those. So it's the sixth tournament pack ever made, but there's no weird like Brazil thing on there. Okay. Good to know. Damn. I don't know. I'm I'm I am I am struggling with this one. Hey, you have lifelines. Yeah. Yeah. I'm considering using a lifeline because I'm going to be honest. I feel like this is definitely one of those things that can either be like dummy cheap because it's not max already or it could be dummy expensive anyway because you definitely had like some of these older cards that will have a print. That's like, you know, a million dollars and there's another one. Yeah. If you don't have a million dollars, you can spend 200 K on it instead. You know, I am going to ask for the tier on this one please. All right. Okay. First lifeline is being used the first lifeline asking for the tier. Royal Decrease super rare from tournament pack six is from tier one. I figured. I figured. I figured. So you're on the right track. I think I'm going to drop it right at 40. I think 40 is a safe bet. I'm going to drop it right at 40. Lock that sucker in. Okay. All right. $40 on the Royal Decree Coder. This card is $93. Okay. Okay. So it's top end, but it's still tier one. So you get the tier bonus. So there's that. Yeah. It is 93 because all these tournament pack hollows basically, especially if they're like remotely playable like Royal Decree and go format stuff. They're usually not going to be that cheap, but they are still, you know, not that expensive. Like as you said, I think the other Royal Decrease around like 500 or something. Something like that. Maybe 600. So that you were thinking like that. And then once you realized it wasn't like that, like if you just told me like, yeah, this was that one, like that first printing, whatever I would have said, I would probably immediately jump to 500 bucks. Yeah. Cause it was very expensive. Okay. But not too bad. You're fine. Nothing to worry about. You still got two lifelines left.  I guess that's still dropped right now. So as of right now that one doesn't count. But if you do have a worse one later, we will then replace that one fair enough. Fair enough. Okay. And this was, this was even that bad. I was like 50 bucks off. Yeah. Yeah. This is, if this is your worst one, you're going to be doing really good. So let's go to question four. Summon Skull Ultra Rare First Edition from Metal Raiders. What? MRD first, MRD first.  Man, you're, you're pulling out the old cards. I started playing in 2016, Rex. So what are you doing to me? Hey, to be fair, I gave you like the most new cards. I'm just going to let you know. Oh, let's go. I gave you a bunch of new cards. Okay. Okay. Okay. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. MRD first edition, Ultra Rare Summoned Skull. I mean, this is probably money. I can't imagine it's not money. MRD first is like always expensive. Is it? I think. What do you know about MRD? I know it's called Metal Raiders, bro. That's about it. Okay. Well, I'll give you a little bit. It is the second set ever printed. Yeah. So like these sets only, it only has like one Secret Rare, right? Two Secret Rares, Thousand Dragon Gate Guardian, but it depends on which box you get. It has a retailer hobby box. Right. Right. So it's basically one per like whatever you would get. I mean, I feel like an MRD first. And like we're going near mint for all of this, right? So this is all near mint. Yeah. If I don't specify, which I usually, I've always done near mint because it just gets dicey when you say Mod Play or something like that. Okay. So Summon Skull, it's going to be up there. It has to be up there. Like I feel like this thing graded. If someone told me it was $500, I wouldn't be surprised. But I feel like not graded. I feel like if it's just like a raw near mint copy, I feel like it's definitely going to be up there and it's going to be a tier three most likely because I feel like anything MRD first foil, especially for an Ultra, because there weren't that many Ultras in these sets, right? Because this was back when there was 10, but there's 10 supers, 10 Ultras. This was before like you had like guaranteed Ultras and stuff, right? I'm pretty sure that. Well, you. Okay. So here's the layout of a box for an old school box was you would pull four supers. This is usually like on average four supers, two Ultras and zero to one secret. If you get a secret, sometimes that would replace an Ultra. Sometimes it wouldn't. So sometimes you get two. Sometimes you could get three Ultras, but pretty unlikely. Usually it's two. You said tier two ends at 250, right? 250. Yeah. So 251 plus is tier three. So I'm going to hazard a guess here that this is definitely a tier three card, but I'm hazarding that it's on the lower end of tier three. So I think I'm going to drop it at 255. Just to be in that tier three, just to be chilling. I wouldn't be surprised if this is like 300, but I'm going to put it at 255.  I don't know, but 255 run it. What? Why do you want it to be just inside tier three? You just you're just sure it's a tier three. So you just wanted to be right on that tier three. I am pretty certain it's going to be a tier three. I got a vibe. I got a vibe. Okay. All right. $255. You've locked it in for the Summon Skull Metal Raiders. First edition coder. This card is worth $399. Okay. I knew it was tier three. Hey, you got the tier three right. You didn't know for sure that was it. And you when you said, uh, um, if you told me this card of a grade, it was 500. I was dying because this card used to be 5,000 grade. No shot. Yeah. When it was like during the hype, it was 5,000 for 10. Now it's down to like 2,000. I think old cards, old cards are so crazy because you'll find like, what was that one card? There was like an equip spell from like LOB or something. It's a common that's like short print. It's the, the, the silver bow and arrow or something. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's like 300 or something. That card is like $300 as a common because it was short printed at LOB and it's like, bro, why? Why do old cards do this? Yeah. All the LOB commons are insane money. Metal Raiders is getting there too because they actually have a lot of anime stuff and Summon Skull just like the anime printing, which funnily enough, this isn't the first printing of Summon Skull. It's the one out of the starter deck. So it's like a common. So then you get this because it's the hollow version. It's the one everybody wants, but you're not bad. I mean, this is your dropped one now. So we are now replacing the 50, but that's okay. That wasn't too bad. He's still got two lifelines left. Six questions. Yeah. How are you feeling right now? How do you feel? I think I'm doing fine. I think I'm doing okay. I knew this card was going to be like either Mad Stonks or just Okie Stonks. Turns out it was a Mad Stonks. What can I do? Yeah. An anime level. That's anytime you see anime, you got to think Stonks. Sometimes, sometimes the anime just be crazy. You know, but there's some anime cards that just aren't that money. It was crazy. That's true. But there's good news. The next question is good news. Okay. All right. Question number five. We have Unchained Twins of Ruha. Starlight Rare first edition from Chaos Impact. Bruxen, I know the price of this card that I told you was good news. Not only do I know this one, I know the price of this card because I check it periodically. This is the card whose value I check about once a month just because I own three of this thing. I wonder how much it's changed since you checked it. Starlight Ruha is $170. Lock it in. Give or take. It's just maybe, maybe it's a bit more. Last time I checked it was $170. Smack that on the nose. Run it. Okay. All right. You're locking it in. You're sure. I figured this would be one that you've probably checked at some point. I didn't know you checked it that much. So it's good for you that you did that. Question five. Saying this is the second tier two. Unchained Twins of Ruha. Starlight Rare first edition Chaos Impact. Coder. What if I told you it was like 300? What would you do? I would tell you you're lying. I would be lying. It's $171. Let's go. So you are one of them. You almost got that crazy bonus of 25 and you get it right on. But hey, that's one off. You get the $10. You're adding back nine bucks. That's a great midway point right now. You're looking good. Let's go. We take those. We take those. Yeah, dude. I knew my boy Ruha was $170, bro. I knew it. I already knew it. Question six. Grandmaster of the Six Samurai. Secret Rare first edition from Strike of Nios. Oh my God. This is question number six. Grandmaster of the Six Samurai. Secret Rare. You got any idea on this one? No. What's Strike of Nios? Is that STON? Yeah, STON. It came out in 2007. Dude, if I get this wrong, John is going to kill me, man. Oh my God. Hey, you can always replace it and get another one so you don't have to answer to them. Yeah, I can't imagine Grandmaster of the Six Samurai that much. But it could be like just crazy, you know? Who knows? OK, please clarify something for me because I am not in the know. Is Six Samurai a deck that is typically played in Edison format? OK, I answered this last time for Farphone. They asked about Test Tiger and I said, no, it's not in my deck. And then apparently some of them run it. But so, mine didn't run it. But I do not know of a Six Samurai deck. When I do Edison, I look at the Edison.com and look at the top lists. They don't have Six Samurai. It's not in the top list. OK, I can tell you that. I don't know for sure if anybody runs it or not, but I don't think it's in Edison. Yeah, so what you're telling me is it could be playable, but it is also not one of the top. Yeah, it could be playable. I'm not sure about that, but it is not like the top eight of the tournaments. Good to know. So this is not going to be spiking as hard as like Blackwing cards because of. Yeah, like Vayu or something with the ulti. OK, OK, OK. I'm not going to use a lifeline for this one. I am going to go with what my gut is telling me my gut is telling me that this is probably a two to current. I know Grandmaster was like crazy because at the time you could play like oppression with Six Sam's or something like that. And like if you oppression negated the Grandmaster summon or whatever, it would just like add itself back or something. Is that what it does? It's something crazy. Yeah, I know. I know in the current Six Sam decks, people still use this card because it's like nuts. Ruxen, Ruxen, Grandmaster of the Six Samurai is two hundred and seventy five dollars tier three. You evened it out because I'm being an exam. Andy run it to seventy five. All right, exam. Andy didn't pay off Coder.  Andy, we're going to have to find out if it worked out. Grandmaster of the Six Samurai, secret rare, first edition strike of Nios. This is actually a funny one because you have guessed this number already in the quiz. Oh, it was 255, 255 dollars. But still you're really close. I mean 20 minus 10.  So that turned out to be pretty good. But I was earlier. You get to some skull too. It's five and I was like, man, you should have saved that for the Grandmaster. That would have been sweet. Hey, that's not bad.  No, that's really good on the tier threes. I am not upset about that at all. All right, exam Andy. Question number seven, you now have two of each. So keep that in mind.  I, you don't know now because I, even if I exam Andy, you don't know what's coming next. I can't exam Andy anymore. I got, I got one freebie right there and then it was over. I never know how to say this card. So I'm just going to say it like I think you say it. Breanac, Dragon of the Ice Bear, ultra dual terminal rare, dual terminal one. Oh my God, Brio, Brio, Brio, Brio. This is what, okay. So remind me, Brio came like secret then this, right? I think it was a secret hidden arsenal. And then they upgraded it like it rare. I think this is technically a higher rarity. Yeah. Then they also like, did they, I don't remember if this was in the dude dual terminal, not dual terminal, but dual hidden arsenal, dual thing or whatever. I mean, even if it is, that probably wouldn't do anything. No one liked that set. Yeah. That set was horrible. So I know DT Trish is like massive money. Was DT Trish also dual terminal one? I think DT Trish might have been a different one. I think that there was, I think there was only one of ultra per set. So like when you'd get it out of the machine or whatever, I think you only got one ultra. So it must have been a different set for Trish. I think Brio might have been in the same set that also had the Gen X Undine. And if it is, that means this is money because I know the Undine is like not crazy money, but it's like people really, really like, people really like Undine from dual terminal. It's like people's favorite Undine, especially when they play 20, 15 format and whatever and they get to play like Mermail and stuff. You play Undine and that's really good. Yeah. I am definitely using a lifeline on this one. And I think I'm going to be using the higher or lower. Okay. I ask you if Brio is above or below 200 and $30. All right, second lifeline being used on the Brio. This thing is less than $230. I definitely think this is still a tier two. I don't think this is going to be a tier one card. This is definitely going to be above 150 bucks. Wait, tier one is only up to 100, right? 100, yeah. 101 to 250 for the tier two. I'm going to say Brio is like at a smack dab like solid 150 and we're going to put it right there. I think it's a safe bet. We're going to put out 150. All right, Brio. We're just going to call it Brio because I can't say Brio dragon of the ice bear ultra dual terminal rare from dual terminal one. You said 150. Yeah. This is actually an $88 card. Oh, wow. How the mighty have fallen. These have gone down a lot. I actually think that that new set might have hurt these cards somehow. Really? I could have sworn this was like 200 like recently and it's $88 now.  We take those. I think that's my furthest one now. No, the summit skull is still waiting. Yeah. The summit skull is your furthest still 62. Really not that bad though. You still have one lifeline. You've got three questions left. Are you ready for question number eight? Yeah. Yeah. Did imagine using a lifeline and hold that's the worst feeling. It's the worst feeling three more to go. We got this. All right. Question number eight. We have effect veiler ultimate rare first edition from dual list revolution. Damn. I wonder how much this is dude. I don't know how much this is. I recall I think I remember if I remember correctly at a buddy of mine. His name was rex and actually was weird who had a play set of these in French that I wanted and didn't get up off him. And if I remember right these were right around the $400 if I remember correctly. That is that is keep in mind. These are English instead of French. Yeah. So if I remember right if I remember right you had priced these for a French copy at $400 if if I remember this correctly. Yeah. This was this was when again. This was YCS Hartford. I think it was Hartford might have been Charlotte. I can't remember. I might have been Charlotte. It was like it was like Hartford. I think yeah. I definitely think it was hard for I remember we were at a bar we're having some drinks. I was like yo I want French veilers. They were like bro I have I was like buy them and you didn't. And I didn't I didn't end up buying them. But yeah 400 I feel like this is just the kind of card that just never goes down. And the thing is I also remember a more recent experience than that. I remember checking the price of Ulti veiler and Starlight DD Crow and remembering like and feeling like oh these are so close to each other. I didn't think DD Crow was as much as an Ulti veiler or something along those lines. I believe Starlight Crow is sitting around 450. So I think I'm going to slap the veiler right around the 450 mark as well. I think that is a very very safe bet. I feel like it's probably somewhere between 450 and five. Maybe I should be safe and drop it at 475 put it right in the middle of where I'm thinking. I think I might do that. I'm going to put it right at for near near mint. Okay near mint Ulti veiler first edition 500 500. 500. All right. Okay. We lock it in. Is that is that it 500. Oh yeah 500. I'm going all in. Okay coder. That was some interesting talk.  Let's see if you went the right direction. Okay. I definitely did. I know I did. There's no way I didn't. Okay. Okay. A feck veiler he's confident ultimate rare first edition duals revolution. I did want you to buy some of these from me. You didn't do it. You were too busy. You know buy another stuff for some reason. I don't know why. Yeah. And I'm worried about this thing is worth 521 dollars. You want to be in with 21 away. That was clutch. That was super good. Absolutely insane. The whole being within 21 on a $500 tier three. That is really good. That's super strong. Let's go. Let's go on down. I'm down. I'm down. That works. All right. We're we have two more questions and as you know, if you've watched the show, we ask them both at the same time. Yeah. Okay. So I'm going to do that right now. I'm going to ask both questions. Then you can deliberate. You do have one lifeline. If one of these sucks and you don't like it, you can swap it out. Fair enough. I'm ready. Let's go. 9 and 10. We got this. We close it out. We clutch it. Question 9. We have forbidden chalice ultimate rare first edition from raging battle. And then our last question. Question number 10 is light and darkness dragon secret rare for retro pack to my God. Oh my God. Okay. Is there anything you're feeling like you want to swap right off the bat or what? Immediately off the bat. I'm telling myself. I want to swap this light and darkness dragon probably because the thing with chalice is I've known the price of chalice on multiple occasions. I had a buddy of mine who owned a place out of this Ulti first in his binder forever. And I remember consistently asking him like, yo, you want to trade it? You want to trade it? How much and whatever the light and darkness dragon, I do not even have any idea where to begin. The veiler was a tier three. The Brio was a tier one. Therefore one of these two is going to be a tier two. And I'm fairly certain that the forbidden chalice is the tier two because from memory chalice is sitting somewhere between two and 250. The light and darkness dragon. I have no idea. So I'm going to swap out the light and darkness dragon. Okay. If you were going to guess, give us your guess of what the light and darkness dragon would be. The light? I don't know anything about retro pack to you. I'd probably say it's like 300 bucks. I don't know. I have no idea. All right. I'll let you, I'll let you know if you're right or wrong when we get back to it. Okay. Your replacement question is your last lifeline. Let's see if it comes in clutch. I don't know if you know about this card or not. We're going to have to find out number 39. Utopia Astral rarity from battles legend Armageddon. This one's either a lot of money or not a lot of money. I feel as though it was a lot of money on release and then kind of fell off because I think the astral rare Leviathan dragon fell off plus ratio as well. I think I'm going to lock in the chalice. I'm going to lock in the chalice at 240 because I feel like it's on the upper end of tier two. I think this is okay. Two card. I'm going to lock the chalice in at 240. I feel very confident with that one. It's all right. It's somewhere between 225 and 250 most likely. So 240 is a safe bet for that. The astral utopia is either mad stonks or it's kind of mid. I mean that could be anything. Oh my God. Your only clue like it's do you think the the lad like what do you think about the lad? Do you think it could be really cheap or do you think it's expensive? I feel like it's not. I feel like it's not 300 if it's in the same tier as the the utopia. I feel like the utopia probably it could be. It could be money. Wait, battles of legends Armageddon. Were there other starlights in that set? There was. There was a big one. The 10,000 dragon. Oh, that must have been a pretty pulled set. Are there any others other than 10,000 dragon in this? No, it's just these two. This is the other one. It's 10,000 dragon and then the astral utopia. Then it has to be money. Like even if it's overshadowed by another card, that's like like this in 10,000 dragon like 3k or something like that like raw. It's like I think it's 1400. But yeah, it's insane. It's still like I can't remember the ridiculous. I can't remember the last time. I've seen like a card to have been released in recent years hit four digits. Like it's been for. Yeah, it was it was nuts. Yeah, it's already rivaling like Apollosa and IP and those came out like a year before. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Then this is probably money. I am going to put the astral utopia at three hundred and fifty dollars and I'm 350. I'm going to lock it in at a solid. Let me rethink that one second. All right. Okay. Oh my God. You've been good at walking around after after you say your initial price. So I feel like it's lower. I feel like it's closer to three than 350 and I said three for light and darkness dragon. Who knows? Maybe I'm just crazy. Yeah. Maybe just double 300 it. See what happens. Maybe I'm just insane. I'm going to I'm going to run it with with utopia. Three hundred dollars. Okay. Okay. All right. Three hundred bucks. Run it. I believe in it. Okay. All right. Let's do the reveals. I'm going to start with the light and darkness dragon just for fun. Okay. Show me the light. So what's the sauce? You just threw out three hundred dollars. This will give you at least an idea of where you are with the astral utopia. Okay. The light and darkness dragon is three hundred and forty six dollars. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you are in the right here for the utopia. Okay. We'll go to the friend chalice next as you were confident about this one. We're in the ballpark. I feel pretty confident about the chalice at two forty. Okay. You said two forty. You said two twenty five to two fifty. Yeah. This card is two hundred and fifteen. So you were very close.  Yeah, we definitely take those very strong. And you know for the final one, you are in the right tier. Yeah. You went from three fifty to three hundred. Let's see if you went in the right direction. You initially were you weren't sure, but then we hear 10 K. You're like, yeah, it's got to be money. It has to be. It has to be. Yeah. And you were right because it's in tier three. The number thirty nine utopia Astro rarity from battles legend Armageddon is two hundred and sixty dollars. Let's go. Okay. Okay. So you walked at fifty dollars in the right direction. So yeah, let's go. Okay. Honestly, you didn't miss any by a lot. So I'm really interested to see how you did because your worst one was the summit skull and that one's thrown out. I don't think you miss any by a hundred. No, I think the closest one was the Brio that I missed by I think fifty or sixty bucks. Yeah, sixty two. Okay. This is going to be interesting. I think you did pretty good. So we're going to have to do a little bit of math, figure out where you're standing and all the standings. So far, we've had nine episodes. So will you be in the top half? I feel like you will. Let's see a few moments later. All right. We have the results of how Coder did. I want to remind you guys, if you're watching this video, you can win money because of Coder money. We are within one percent. We went a thousand dollars. If we're within five percent, five hundred dollars within ten percent, two hundred and fifty dollars, twenty five percent, one hundred dollars. And if you're Farfa, it's five percent and then you are fifty percent and you get fifty dollars. So yeah, hopefully not that bad. We know for sure we didn't do that. I mean, I'm aiming for ten percent so that they can win as much as they can. I don't know if I'm there. I don't know if I'm there. Maybe I'm close. I don't know. We'll see everyone. If you want to win the giveaway, make sure to like the video, be subscribed, turn on notifications. Let me know down below how Coder did and make sure to go check them out on his channel as well. So far, this is what he did. Our total value for the ten cards that I asked him was two thousand two hundred seventy eight dollars. He was off by two hundred and sixty six dollars. He also got eight tiers correctly. So we took out eighty dollars. That means that he was a hundred eighty six dollars off. That's ten percent. That comes to eight point one seven percent second best ever on the show by engage. How do you feel about that? Dude, that's crazy. That's insane. That was good. Eight percent is super solid. You are actually the first person to get it between five and ten percent. That is absolutely. Gage Gage was like Gage like cooked it. He was absolutely insane. I was just trying to come close, bro. I think I did a good job. That's pretty good. You did. You split the difference between him and Joseph. Basically, he Joseph was like eleven almost and he was four point something and you got basically eight percent. So you split the difference. You gave us someone in there our tenth episode paying off pretty well. That was an impressive performance, Coder. All right. Let's pay the people out. Dude, pay the believers. All right. Make sure to enter the giveaway. If you want to win two hundred and fifty dollars the first time it's ever been given away. We had a five hundred dollar giveaway, but everyone else has been a hundred or fifty. So this is a big performance from Coder Coder. You got anything else you want to say before we go? No, dude, comment, like and subscribe and we'll see you on the next video. All right, everyone. Thanks again, Coder for showing up to this and doing this. I was a little late and it was worth it for him because he dominated. Also, check out his Twitch stream and his YouTube channel have those linked down below and I appreciate you guys watching. I'll see you guys in the next one. Peace. Have a good one. Okay. Okay. Okay. So I got the swap out, dude. Okay. I watched the episode with MBT and you gave him like the Mattel action figure card and something else. Yeah, I think it was like you gave him like collectors or a gamma or something and then a Mattel action figure card and he goes, I'm going to swap out the gamma and I'm like, I know. I was like, what? I was like, who in their right mind does not swap out the Mattel action figure car because he knew it. He basically knew the answer. I was like, oh my gosh, how did he know this? That's insane. That's yeah, that was nuts that he knew that I there's no way I would have gotten that. That was that was nuts.