e get the government to do everything? Something that I'm also curious about was because you guys were talking about the strategy of how they landed. And I was just thinking about how similar it is to like Soviet-style tactics. So I feel like that decision on the filmmaking side would be, look at how bad the situation is. We're just throwing all these guys out there, even though we've been giving them propaganda that we know exactly what we're dealing with. Then we have all the tools. Well, they didn't, though. The tactics are for a reason. Like when the Soviets probably don't do it for the same reason that the mobile infantry does it here. It's because the mobile infantry in the movie thinks that this is the best way to combat a foe that they think is going to get taken out by these tactics. I don't think it's necessarily because they were poorly equipped or they were just bodies to be thrown at the enemy. I mean, in the film, it's not like it's completely nonsensical and they thought that it would actually really win it for them. I'm willing to agree that in the concoction of the plan, maybe there was someone on the board of directors of strategy or something that said, a lot of people could die if we do it like this when we could do it in a longer, more methodical way. And then they were like, we'll take the losses. Like... Well, I want to defend Soviet tactics here for a second because it's not just throwing people around. There was an entire doctrine of deeper operations and it was come up with a guy, I can't remember his name. He was known as the Russian Napoleon. Brilliant strategist who got on the bat side of Stalin and so got tortured to death because, well, that's what happens. But the entire idea is to utilize the strength of the Soviet Union's manpower. It is continuous attacks across a large frontage to figure out where the enemy is strongest and then avoid those areas, smashing through the weak point with large reserves of armored forces, deluding deep behind their lines in a Blitzkrieg-style attack to cut off their reinforcements. It's actually a really effective and competent strategic and tactical doctrine, but the thing is they were up against the absolute worst enemy because the Germans had the perfect counter to that, which was the strategy of mobile defense where each of one of these brooks that break through were countered by Panzer formations while the front lines were just weakly manned. But the Soviet cell tactics were not that bad, just a bad enemy. Hmm. Well, if they were truly bad, they would have lost, but they didn't. Is that how it works? I think that is more to do with the manpower and the materiel. The another thing that people don't give the so much enough credit for is that their artillery doctrine was genuinely quite brilliant. Their idea of massed batteries was just as innovative for artillery warfare as the idea of Blitzkrieg was for Panzer warfare. They had unfathomable quantities of heavy guns. I mean, the Spartans weren't bad because they, they weren't bad because they lost at Thermopylaeus. True, true. Well, it is.  But that seems to be the context. Well, there's things like Pyrrhic victories and there's the Confederate States and the United States Civil War. Just winning a battle isn't necessary, just because you win a battle doesn't mean you're closer to winning the war necessarily. Oh, yeah, of course. I mean, there's so many layers to this kind of thing. I'm studying Soviet and not Soviet, Chinese soft power right now. So there's all sorts of ways to win. Yeah, right. There's all sorts of ways to win a conflict. I mean, everybody's played civilization. But as for the Starship Troopers thing, I find it really hard to argue that they were using, like very realistic military tactics. I get into the same conversation about Star Wars and how there's like tanks and all sorts of, all sorts of artillery pieces that should be on the field, given the kind of weaponry that we have, but they don't exist. And obviously, I think that has to do with production. I mean, there's either a uniformity that has to do with the props and being able to produce a lot of them based on one pattern, or it's to be an aesthetic point that there's just so many people that are all supposed to be wielding the same thing. There's a uniformity to them. I can't decide which one. It could be both. It could be both. But I agree with you. I think it's down to the production, rather than the original writing of the thing. Yeah. And I think that's why in more modern iterations like Traders of Mars and stuff like that, we certainly see a shift. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I hope that we get more movies that actually think about this kind of stuff because YouTubers are ready to talk about it. Oh, yes. Yeah, they are. And without shouting at each other, that's the best way to do it. Yeah, I thought it was really interesting. I suppose we can keep out this section. He's probably going to bring up some more stuff. Glybd, do you want to hang out for a bit? That's Tasha Troubles.  So if you want me to hang out, you guys just let me know when you're bored.  The invite to the room. So it's going to get, unfortunately, joined with. I would have to reset it. Oh, my God. It's OK. Oh, we'll survive. I hate it when I do that. Get the copy of that. Throw it over there. Doot, doot, doot. Prepare to join a new room. It's OK. All those smart people in chat who are like, Mwaha, I'm going to join. Nobody will be there. You can all watch the video together on your own, independent of us. That is true. All right. Doesn't you like, by the way, Sargon, happy Brexit day. Oh, thank you very much. How was that today? It's every day now. Oh, yeah. All day, every day. No, no, it's we've been out of the European Union for nearly two weeks now. Oh, boy. So you're not just like one massive escape from LA style criminal hive island of. I mean, give it a few more days. Well, London is basically, yeah. Build a wall around London. Yeah. Is it like build a wall around London to touch it from Britain and sail off into the North Atlantic? All right. Free. Here's the video working for everyone. Don't enjoy the same rights or status as military members. Governmental leadership positions are reserved for the veterans and thus military minded people set the path of society. As we see in any society. I object because, again, you didn't have to join. You didn't have to join the military to become a citizen. It was just one option and this happens to be a war story, so that's the one we follow. What are the other options?   You have to suffer. If you're handicapped, they'll give you something that would be... Like, they're not going to ask something that's impossible of you. Yeah. But it will be one of those aspects of I served in the way that I could. I gave in the way that I could. Make a video defending the lost Jedi, that sort of thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But the purpose is that, essentially, you have to kind of suffer through whatever it is. It's just a trial. No, it's like a genuine physical, emotional trial, because at the end of it, you'll remember why you have your citizenship. You'll take it seriously. You'll treat it like it's something valuable. Yeah, there's a... Which is, incidentally, the opposite of the way our governments act now is if our citizenship is worth nothing. There's a civil version of the military option, I believe, in this world. If citizenship is not a path, meaning if military service is not a path to citizenship, why do we do that with foreigners? Precisely. That's a really great point. Yeah, I like that there's an inherent notion that it's bad for veterans or something to have heightened or status that's preserved to them or reserved for them. I don't get it. And you can tell this because he treats the soldiers as if they're psychopaths. It's like, oh, we're trying to turn these into killing psychopaths. So that's not what the soldier is. And the soldiers are not separate from the civilization that creates them. Like, they're part of it. It's not, you know, he's trying to separate the two things if they shouldn't meet. Well, and it's always funny because if you look at the structure of America specifically, it's supposed to be 18 to 45, I believe, is the militia that can always be called into. That's like a... I'm not sure if it's codified into law that you have to do that, but in a time of war, I'm pretty sure that's one of the things you're supposed to do. Well, you've got the rights of the militia, haven't you? Yeah, exactly. And yeah, it's actually more arguable that the militia is more constitutionally oriented than a standing army. But that's another... Didn't your founders warn explicitly against standing armies? Absolutely, absolutely. And if you go to any of the tourist destinations that are like military monuments to the revolution, usually the tour guide is ex-military and is there because he admires the previous generations that served before them? And if you get into the meat and potatoes of it, you find out that most of the situations were enhanced and possibly won, like the Battle of Bunker Hill was won by private artillery that was owned by only a few rich people in the town and they actually used the cannons to dig out the parapets and the walls that they built up. And that didn't... Just as an aside, because I know Arch Warhammer and you guys like this kind of stuff. Yeah, I know, I'm interested. There was a super high kill rate for British officers because there were Scots that were being fielded and their lobster coats were worn down. So you could spot who was an officer and who wasn't by how shiny their uniform was. Plus the Americans were countered little cunts and aimed for the officers on purpose. Hey, we had to build a country.  I just realized the streets were going to turn off ours. Sogum didn't destroy it. I'm confused. Oh my God. Why is it still up? It's your fault. Well, I guess the weather wasn't that bad after all. I'm disappointed. God, you're not doing your part. More like expresses disappointment in God. He sends the Thai food to Britain that he's like, I'm doing my part.  Be governed by a military elite. Gentas never end well because they fail to understand the need for restraint on militaristic behavior or a balance of ideas in government.  You remember when the Mobile Infantry decided to butcher, you know, half a continent? No, of course.  Didn't you see that bit? No, yeah. Not the face huggers. Today is an adult bug of tomorrow.  Um, you know, I just can't. I can't, especially because I'm vegan. Yeah. See. Isn't it vegan? Like, Tehran. Tehran, vegan. This manifests in a united citizen federation with a Mobile Infantry runner muck. With what? The Mobile Infantry runner muck? Runner muck. I don't know about that. What? I do know about that.  I'd love to know the references he has for that, yeah. Lieutenants don't hesitate to commit violence against infantry and training or place muck. You were just complaining about like just.  Oh, the horror. So as you did highlight, I guess violence would be relative to their current medical standards. And isn't isn't Rico put into some kind of weird Star Wars like tank at one point? And yeah. Yeah, that's after a bug stabs to his leg.  And you think because that when you get stabbed, that looks like it would have gone through the bone for sure, right? Like it's. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He gets he gets booped. But yeah, this remind me, why does he attack her? She says she gets a transfer, right? And she says.  And so she'd like, fight me. And he's. Yeah, all right. Yeah, and she does, she does assault him. All right. She could have. Well, she'd volunteer. Well, what I'm suggesting is that it's not like he does this with no cause. Like what?  That's what I mean.  Hey, guys, make sure you don't annoy me with your looks. Value on the lives of their soldiers. Hardening soldiers for war is one thing. Throwing a knife through a recruits hand and disabling him. Except he's expressly fighting. Yeah, he spends the rest of the movie being an efficient fighter. So obviously this did not actually disable him. I mean, in this very moment, it disables him, but that's, you know, they're not free. That's like saying training hard makes you tired, which disables you, which doesn't make it very good training. So. Oh, I'm tired, though, right? I'm tired. I've been disabled by my own men. Doesn't he get like. Well, what is his position? Because he does pretty well, right? That guy, yeah. Yeah, isn't he promote tonight? Yeah. Yeah, it's like corporate level. Value on the lives of their soldiers. Harder. Also, just got to remind everybody that Ratczek's character has a robot arm. So, yeah, I think he think the knife in the hand. I think it's going to be okay. I think he's going to be all right. I think he'll make it. I want a robot arm. People could go into battle. The prosthetics are so good in this future that, oh, you don't have an arm. We'll give you a robot one. You'll be right in the front in no time. It's like, damn. Recruits hand and disabling him is moronic. The mobile infantry badly needs the. Wait, did you just describe it as moronic? Yeah. Value on the lives of their soldiers. Hardening soldiers for war is one thing. Throwing a knife through a recruits hand and disabling him is moronic. The mobile infantry badly needs the oversight of more politically inclined individuals. Like Chief Palpatine.  Wait, was he suggesting Chief Palpatine? I don't know, man. Gorge.  What if he's like, okay, everyone, we're going to make a clone army? This is a statement that doesn't make any sense either because he's calling it a military junta. So that means that every soldier is a political agent because they're all ruling the state. And it's that. I mean, it is correct to vote. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It is correct that all of these are they are all politically minded because they're trying to earn their citizenship so they can vote. You know, is every soldier is essentially a politician in the same way that, you know, everyone who votes is involved in politics is like they are that thing. The next flaw is that the mobile infantry is a volunteer force. Now this is both a weakness and a strength. They should be using slaves. Well, let's let's see. I'm curious where he's going to take this. For today's video, we will consider the aspects that make it a flaw. In the Federation, the lack of compulsion means that the mobile. I got a skip in the video. Yeah, well, I'll drag it back. We need to make sure we hear him. Aspects that make it a flaw. In the Federation, one chooses to join the military, but doing so is the only way to become a citizen. So there are incentives to do so. That's not true, though. There are civil options, but yeah. Also, is it the only way to become a citizen in the movie? Is that true? I don't remember. It probably is true in the movie. But let's say that it is in the movie. Sorry, it's not forced inscription. Why is it playing on mine? If I pause it. It's not forced inscription. And at the same time, it's also not just a voluntary force and gives you a bonus that gives you extra voting rights and stuff and involvement in government. What exactly is the argument against why any of this is a... A flaw? I'm assuming, like, the first thought I had was that he's going to try and argue that it will give you less numbers overall compared to how many you could have if you forced them. But this is the thing. It seems like, I don't know, like say I'm trying to kill a criminal and he's in a room with 10 babies and I flamethrower the whole thing. I'm like, victory. I killed the criminal. And it's like, you need to consider what else you just did. Like, the other things that happened as a result of that. Like, it feels weird to isolate these quote-unquote flaws at all. Here's just a standard rule of warfare.  Hello, I'm the Soviet Union. I would like to disagree with this notion. Are you kidding me? The killed death ratio? No.  I love it. It's pretty bad.  Right, conscript armies. Yeah, but even then, they would have done better had they had a smaller and more disciplined and volunteer professional force. But they were the communists and they didn't have that. They did have that. That was what was stationed on the front line to Germany during Operation Barbarossa. Oh, and did it do well?  Just, I'm not going to advocate for Russian-style warfare at all. This is from chat. No, but that is a general maxim that I think you can stand by. Just clarification from chat. It's not about the right to vote to become a full citizen. And yes, you do have to do service, but not necessarily combat or not necessary combat. Wow, apparently that's in the film, but I really can't remember. Civil... You know, I can't remember. I can't remember being... So far the country... So far the country... ...talked about it, I think, because he's the one who handed out the applications and they were talking about, you know, what kind of service they were going for, Navy, military, or civil, etc. I think that was them. All right. It's funny to me because... He even says it's the best decision I ever made. Well, see, that's... Making me the man I am today. So this is the super interesting thing about that scene, right? So from the director's point of view, I think he's trying to say, look at this guy, and he's been brainwashed into thinking that was good. And then you see it from the perspective of, let's just take a random audience member called Bob, and Bob is like, I really like that that guy, despite having faced such an adversity, is proud of his work, is proud of the contribution he made to his society. And this is what I mean. He sacrificed practically all his limbs, and he's still full of praise for the system.  And you're like, to be definitive on it is pretty tough, you know? Well, you'd think that if he really was against it, then he wouldn't be out there as a recruiter, convincing people to do it. He would be disillusioned and upset. Well, the point is he's brainwashed. The point is that he thinks that what has happened is a good, while it's not. Can you name a brainwashed? I'm sure he doesn't think his own limbs being blown off is good, but like having done his duty is good. Yeah, it's a despite this. It's still, you know, I'm still glad that I did it, even though this happened to me. But you got to admit that all of the veterans that are in the movie have at least one limb taken away, usually, except for the instructors. But again, I love the fact. It's going to say, depending on POVs, I'm pretty sure this is RLM's perspective. They're like, see, it's the film trying to say, like, all of these teachers are all people who are victims of this war that brainwashed into thinking is an overall good. I'm paraphrasing that might not be the position, but I'm just saying that there's a potential position. Well, the alternative is that all of these experienced members of this system are explaining, and not only explaining, they're happy to debate it as well, which is quite interesting. Yeah, they have a justification for everything that they've lost. They've gained something in their minds for it. So that is the admirable way of looking at it. And then the negative way is looking at saying, they've lost as individuals. Drew Gordon said, ball is misreading the scene. I didn't even read it. I gave you two readings of the scene. Like what I read is, okay, that's fine. I wanted to make a point about the conscription thing, because I think it's funny how, you know, you can have conscription in a military service, whatever you that brings in all the people into your unit. But if you look at the way that the, like special forces or the higher tier, higher geared and higher trained forces choose their people, it gets harder and harder and it takes more and more individual effort to join those units, the further elite that you go. And I don't think that there's a special forces conscription unit anywhere in the world. So you need to offer the reward. And that's the essence of the military structure in Starship Troopers. Effectively, the entire military special forces were supposed to be anyway. I think you'd be hard-pressed to find somebody that was a veteran that thought that this movie had the politics completely off base, the way that it's presented structurally in the society. Oh my God, some of these, some of the memes that they've been making are insane. I just posted one there. Email bugs right to Jesus, my body. Wait, is this a meme? Yeah. I thought for a second it was going to be like a real Juan Rico pretty much does whatever he wants to fill, he doesn't act like a leader committed. When does he turn, catch some gage and... You mean intercourse? I knew a bug in that comment.  Oh my goodness. It's so... Because we have this whole meme before about whether or not you're an alien in this game can be found out through hacking. And it's so applicable to this. It's like, I've been hacked. I'm not an alien. I just think it looks like human intercourse. Isn't that what you call it, fellow humans? Is that not what we also call this? Like tell me the lie. All right. Way to become a citizen. So there are incentives to do so. Still, the lack of compulsion means that the Mobile Infantry cannot force the most talented humans among the populace to fight for them. Almost like a bug. Wow. He really sounds like a bug. It's like, but we need to get the warrior bugs to fight them because the cockroach bugs are bad at it. You know, we need... We can't have volunteerism. This guy is... He's applying some real... I'm concerned. Logic to this... Okay. I wonder how it's determined. Exactly. Just mark humans. Yeah. If they're wearing glasses, kill it. Wait, what? We need to redistribute the intelligence and capability of the human population. It's only fair. Oh, this is so great. I love this video. Flipside, this means that the Mobile Infantry is going to have to settle for the best soldiers they can get. Like Juan Rico, a complete...   Yeah, okay. Why is he using good as an example of the best we can get? I thought he was really good. I thought that was kind of the point is that he...  Absolutely. 100%.  But he's like... He wants to go after the cheerleader or whatever. He's a football star. He's excels in training. He's exactly who you think he's holding. He has human intercourse. Yeah. I think it's interesting to think as well. Right. So you have like a selection of people. It's not... Where I was going to go with this is it's not just about the physical traits of the body for whether or not they'll be good in combat. Like it's clearly... If they're volunteering, then they're clearly on board. They have an interest. They have a stake personally in operating as soldiers. Yes, either they want to do it or they want the rewards of doing it. If you force a bunch of people, whether or not they're big and strong or whatever sort of attribute you're running with, have a feeling you might end up with the problem you were mentioning earlier where he was like, oh, weak-minded people who can't handle any of this. Like if you could script Eddie at all that you think are the best, who knows what you might end up with. There are drawbacks to each of these plans.  Wait, sorry. What was he citing this as? Like an example of how he's incompetent. He made a mistake. Therefore, he's not good. Yeah, this was... You do get how unlikely this was. She got shot at the same time as he was checking the helmet for somebody and she shot in the direction of the guy without the helmet. It's very unlikely. Unfortunate. Still his responsibility though because he was leading the group. Yeah, this is the whole thing about Tai when we got earlier.  Yeah, I'm just gonna throw it back. Is that actually his point? Flipside, this means that the mobile infantry is going to have to settle for the best soldiers they can get. Like Juan Rico, a complete pups. Everyone has to!  Everyone has to settle for the best they can get. Gets a fellow soldier killed. It's so unfair as a representation of what happens in this scene.  Yes, Captain Diffy just called for a medic despite the fact that the soldier doesn't have a hand. The motherfucker is in shock. You have to do that. Yeah, that's what you always do. I mean, Jesus Christ. You understand what he accomplishes in this film. You watch the movie, right? Like you sat down and you watched the film from beginning to end.  You understand all the things he accomplishes. Is he gonna... Yeah. Yeah. It's like, does one mistake negate everything good that you do?  But that doesn't mean that you're good at anything, okay? You made a mistake one time.  This is why this is what annoys me about people who talk about Hitler. I mean, yeah, sure, Holocaust World War, but hear me out. Hear me out, Autobahn. Veganism. You haven't seen his art, clearly. Passion, yeah. Passion, yeah, those shorts. Some people are saying, by the way, that the clarification about the scene, they don't know if the helmet would even have saved him. Because if you look at, especially on this screenshot, he was shot in, like, just above the eye from a downward position. There's a good chance the Breckenridge, I think his name, he would have died anyway. Maybe, maybe.  You need to take him out of the area if you're gonna be careful. Even though- Oh, I will grant you this. Having a live fire course, where getting hit by the simulated lasers will cause the person with a fully automatic assault rifle to spasm uncontrollably is probably a recipe for disaster. Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, because maybe, yeah, maybe we should just talk about how dumb that is in general, because they're being shot at by laser, sort of, standing enemies, right?  Those lasers make them pull their triggers once they're shot with it, and it makes it just fire wildly. It's like, this doesn't seem like a good plan, guys. Like, I don't know if, I don't know what the benefit that outweighs the negatives are of that is training course. I mean, I guess I get the point. It's to get them accustomed to recoil and the sound of gunfire and bullets and stuff. I get it, but there are probably better ways to do this. In fact, there are, we do them. But I get it. Oh, also, I forgot.  So, yeah, there you go. What a hero. Man, man's a hero. Yes, Captain Dip just called for a medic, despite the fact that the soldier doesn't have a head.  It's like, they're already dead. Yeah, we're not hurrying. It's like, chill out.  I always got the impression that he knew full well that guy was dead.  Yeah, because he's just, it's just done. You see a soldier get hit. Your first instinct is to call for a medic. Like, it's almost like you don't even think about it. Boom, soldier was hit, you call for a medic. I mean, he wasn't a fucking, he wasn't helmet repaired tech.  So you called for a medic, but this guy's actually not dead. Did you not look? Like, come on, learn your lesson. And also, by the way, nothing is lost by calling the medic over. No, it's a waste of the medic's time, right? He's over there playing solitaire on his phone. James Ball said, oh, the chick who killed the dude, she ends up leaving the military too. It's like, yeah, because she's weak-minded. If she wasn't weak, she would have stayed. Yeah, I mean, that must be a heavy sort of thing to know that he's not your fault done, but man, that's got a way on you. She was sociopathic.  That's war. People get shot in training. Training. It can happen. It can happen. That scene would have ended so much better. Yes, Captain Dip. Just called for a medic, despite the fact. Also, let's be clear.  A little odd, but all right. We get that in YouTube videos all the time. It's hilarious. Yeah, we got that with that one Joker video we watched where the guy censored, like, the F-bar. Don't spoil it. Don't spoil it, because it's not the one from... The soldier doesn't... One of the cinema people ones. We're going to be covering them. And... Oh, my God, you're right. Oh, my God. Something funny happens. And I don't want to spoil it for the chat when they finally get to see it. There's so much material. But yes, it is. And the funny thing, I guess, about it is that it might be a reasonable thing to do, because a lot of people theorize that YouTube's like scrub your videos for swear words. Maybe not for graphic violence. You'd think they'd have some bot for that, though. Yeah, it's still just... It's weird that you would have to do that. That's the thing. It's weird that you could show something so graphically violent, but then... Oh, they can't handle the dipshit word. Also, someone brought up that the Starfleet Trooper universe has pretty insane medical tech, the things that Commend are astonishing. It isn't out of the blue that Rico calls for a medic. Yeah. It's not beyond the realms of possibility, probably. Yeah. It is possible to survive getting shot in the head. Maybe not... How much better would the scene be if he didn't yell for medic and we just slowly went out? The whole point of that is for him to second-guess his leadership capabilities and bust him back down to private.  He shows... Is trained to a degree. He has concern. He is operating. He hasn't fully lost his faculty. He's not a psychopath.  Yeah, he doesn't smile and go, Woohoo! Yes, Captain Dip just called for a medic, despite the fact that the soldier doesn't have a head. This highlights maybe the most major flaw of the Mobile Infantry. Wait, that's it? Just that they through volunteering, they end up with shitty soldiers. That was his point. Well, if anything, this is more of a criticism of a live fire training course than it is volunteers. I don't see how you can't just make the argument in reverse.  Yeah, they're not there for good reasons. They're not cut out for it, or they don't want to be there. Are they looking for the first excuse they can to get out or to engineer an escape or to go AWOL? Sorry, I was just going to say, doesn't this also happen in regular exercises where you're trying to go prone and they shoot a machine gun over your head?  Dying training, yeah, it does happen. Yeah, so I don't think that it's just that putting it on is a way of measuring it. There is an element of potential danger that comes along with getting trained for even more dangerous. Yeah, you're becoming a soldier. You have to be prepared for that. Its main hero is inept. He has no specials, he no- Really? Captain Putts is what- That's unfair. Wow. He's really good in the film. You highlighted just like one error. When he was learning how to be a soldier. This is really weird.  He's very decisive. He's accurate. He's a team building supportive person. He's brave. Yeah, I don't- What are your references? Give me something. He single-handedly kills a giant monster bug. Well, obviously, he can have human intercourse in only 10 minutes. And he has human intercourse, exactly. I wonder if he's going to bring up human intercourse as a flaw? Do it. Yeah, but he doesn't have psychic abilities, so he's not cool. That's true. I need human intercourse to be a top coin on this video. Human intercourse. He's got elite skills, and isn't that intelligent. Whereas many elite soldier forces are defined by a heroic- You're comparing him to Master Chief? That seems unfair. Isn't Master Chief like- Yeah, that is really unfair. He was engineered basically as a kid to be a super soldier. These are two completely different characters.  Like, I don't see how this is- If you're saying compared to a hyper-intelligent person, he's not very intelligent. It's like, oh, that's a real shock. Well, I mean, one of the things about Rico's character is he's not a genius. He's not some guy who scores A's on every course and everything like that. And it dovetails into what Archer was bringing up at Highline's point of the citizens are not more intelligent than the regular person. They are the regular person. He's not a Mary Sue. Yeah, but he's not meant to be something superior to the average person. It's showing that, look, the average person can do this because when the scientists, the hyper-intelligent people, all funny ideas into the head, they tend to actually end up killing millions of people and it all goes horribly wrong. I mean, that's the whole point of socialism is it's scientific and it's scientifically killed 100 million people in the 20th century. You know, so it's like, I don't know, being super smart does not mean that you get everything right. That's the lesson. Someone in chat, Archer, this might trigger you. He said, Master Chief is a 40-case space marine with better armor and less bulk. Oof. Oof. Oh, boy.  Don't know about the better armor part, certainly. That's a... Armor inferior.  Aren't space marines bigger than John just without armor? They're huge. They're not even like human. They'd be on average roughly standing shoulders and head above them. The only thing Master Chief has is that the recharge shield or whatever. Yeah, the armor helps, but he's got the recharge shield and obviously the training that goes along with it. But like 40k is... It's just another group of things. I wonder how it stands up to a fully automatic grenade launcher. Let's be real. Master Chief couldn't even be Doom Guy, so come on, guys. There's a reason these things exist in different universes. Yes. I like how it's just out of the loop. I have a blank. You got to get... I know literally nothing about Master Chief, so... Master Chief didn't even have human intercourse. He didn't. I don't think so. Neither do space marines. That's why they're superior. But they're not even humans, so it's okay. Oh, so they have alien intercourse? That's... That's borderline heresy.  And yeah, lots of people have been continuing their point about the medic in chat. I saw the conversation going. Not only do you have ambulances on hand, apparently, with live fire courses, but medics will be going to bodies whether or not they're confirmed dead in the moment. And that on the 0.0001% chance, the person who's been shot in the head is alive. You would call a medic? For the sake of it? Yeah, it's like you always lose nothing, my friend.  Like, could be alive. Just fucking... I'll just continue the exercise. Well, let me check his pulse. Let's see if we have any respite in the eyes. I'll bother a medic later.   Can't you see? He's... His premium is over there. This is an intensely weak-minded person who will go on to become a general, such as reflective of a very flawed professional life. We are shown that he is very good. He's weak-mindedness. He's chosen because he is very good at his job. That's like the whole point. I like how he's got no references outside of that one in training. Like, come on, dude. Can we find like a picture of the dude talking about this and we'll see if we can find an intensely weak-minded person? He doesn't make very many mistakes after. This guy is like, Johnny Rico is an imbecile.  I mean, at least Johnny Rico can wash his clothes before he makes a YouTube video.  And he can have human intercourse. Do we know if this guy has had human intercourse? Or is he even capable? He seems like he's, uh... He fraternizes with a lot of bugs. Are we sure he's not a bug? I bet he's a bug sympathizer. The Mobile Infantry is stuck with Johnny. It's that time of the month Rico. He almost quits the Mobile Infantry, a force he only joined because of a girl due to the helmet incident. What? That's more than enough reason. But he doesn't know. So for one, he doesn't. But two, is that all reasonable? You got one of your teammates and friends killed. Of course you're gonna be doubting yourself at that point. He's not a sociopath. Well, that was a flaw, right? Who wouldn't join the Mobile Infantry after they got nuked? Right? Makes sense to me. I just...  Well, but he's highlighting it as... If your friends and family have all been wiped out, why wouldn't you fight the bugs? This is an intensely weak-minded person who will go on to become a general, such as reflective of a very flawed professional ladder. You did such a bad job of giving any credence to that argument. I don't know, you got someone shot moving on. You're like, okay. Next, we have the Mobile Infantry Transport Vehicles. In the film Starship Troopers, the main vehicle used for space travel by the UCF is the Corvette Transport. The Corvettes were often used to deploy dropships which carried Mobile Infantry platoons. The Corvettes are fast, but along with the dropships they transport, seem to have weak defenses and lack much in the way of offensive combat capabilities. Hold on, weak defenses? That is a plasma ball a couple kilometers wide. I was gonna say, I didn't know that they... Yeah. Yeah, with... I don't know how powerful the fences you were expecting. Yeah, I don't know if they're designed to withstand this kind of, this kind of, like, hit. Like, Captain, we've been struck by a small sun. Don't worry, we've been armored for that. Yeah. Can we have an advanced society? We'll be fine. It's funny for me to watch him complain about the ship stuff because my dad was actually the guy that was in charge of the unit that directed those miniature shots. So it's always funny for me to see the Klendothi drop stuff. Really? Oh. Yeah. That's really interesting. That's awesome. Let them send you up to say some more interesting things. Yeah. Tell me something else that's interesting about something relevant. Do it. The guys that did the explosions and the pyrotechnics on Starship Troopers, same people that did A New Hope and Empire. Oh. Some guys that did the miniatures. This explains why it also stands up today, to be honest. Because if you watch it, it does kind of stand up today. Yeah. Yeah, this was... The movie almost wouldn't have that look to it if it weren't for the fact that Sony had a division called Sony Pictures Image Works that was still had a physical unit. And the physical unit did miniatures and all sorts of small range locked in, in-camera effects. And unfortunately, when the digital stuff started to pick up after that and Sony started changing, Image Works became a digital company. And that physical unit was led by my dad. So that's the third one. Yeah. What do we... And also, what do we know about the armaments of these ships? Exactly. Are they designed to engage in space battles, essentially? Or are they just transports? I mean... We don't have that information, unfortunately. Not to my knowledge, anyway. Again, the transport vehicles available to the Mobile Infantry don't seem suited for battle against the alien enemy they're fighting. Designed to battle them specifically. They are designed just for a general use, I imagine. Yeah. And how are they not suited? The aliens don't seem to have space vessels. They seem perfectly suited. The fact that they can't withstand enormous plasma blasts is the contention, I suppose. It's just like, oh... I mean, I guess you could argue they're incapable of orbital bombardment, which fair enough. But the thing is, that's actually difficult. But that's also not true. They do bombard planets before going down to them later. But I love... Essentially, this argument is like a magic gathering argument. It dies to a removal.  Like, things can be killed. Okay, yeah, yeah. It can be killed. That's true.   Exactly.  Yeah, they seem to... I mean, they do seem to do a good job at what they do. And I think one of them... Isn't there an escape scene with one of the ships? It gets hit. But it's still integral enough for a lot of them to escape regardless? Yep, yep. You see some ships with massive chunks torn out of them still being able to make it back to their base. Pretty resilient. But I'd be curious if they have actual... Like, if there is a... If there is... Let's see, after... So the Yamamoto was the ship... Hit by a plasma launch from the surface, heavily damaged. Heavily, the ship returned to Fleet Battle Station, Ticonderogo, where it was docked despite still being on fire.  I mean, it'll obviously depend on where you get hit. But I'm also... I'm curious what their armaments are. Maybe there's a wiki entry or whatever. These last few points, he's just shooting them out, and they need to reach that 10. It's just like, I don't know. Gotta get to the magic number. And finally, our last flaw should be rather obvious. Despite the mobile infantry existing in a world of advanced technology, as we've previously discussed, they largely fight the gigantic bugs on foot. They don't use much in the way of an air force or ground vehicles, and in the films, don't have exoskeleton suits that give them enhanced abilities in warfare. This seems almost ludicrous. Why? I need to know why. Yet the lack of an alternate means of engaging the enemy is a catastrophic flaw. In other words, there is a... Oh, look, a scene where they win. ...three to which the mobile infantry... That's a great point. It does a great job.  Like, sure. They're not as good as they could be, I suppose. These will have been left out because the oven wasn't following the book for the military tactics of the thing. It was the politics and philosophy that... Yeah, and it's very possible that... Like, armies don't change overnight, so it's very possible that the armies that we see deployed against the bugs were simply the ones that were kind of the mainstays that were used in inter-human conflicts, where if we don't have any large-scale wars going on and it's mostly stuff along the lines of scattered resistance here and there, terrorism here and there, then you need human beings to deal with that in a way that artillery can't. Yeah, but the important point is that it just isn't following canon when it comes to the military equipment. Like, all of these problems are solved when you realise they're actually probably about a dozen guys in flying mech suits that shoot nukes. Where are the tanks? Where's the air support? Yeah, exactly, where are they? That was the men themselves were those things.   I agree, but that's not what it was. And we also see in later movies yeah, they much more, especially when they can just, it's all CGI and it doesn't matter what the pixel is, you know. They have all this stuff. They have the super exoskeleton rocket flying suits and the big air forces and stuff. And it looks great. Carmen is reckless when she's moving the ship. I, it was a plot hole. Oh, wow. Someone just sent a, someone sent a super chat, might be topical. Aircraft is useless against artillery and tanks would be useless due to unknown terrain of the planet. Try again. I don't know about useless. How is aircraft useless against artillery unless you're talking about. I get at least suggesting that they couldn't use aircraft because of the alien artillery, but I mean, they can clear the area or confirm that they're not there and especially smaller ships, surely, because they can avoid it. Yeah, they have fighter ships and like strike ships, gun boats, things of that nature. And I don't know about tanks being useless. It's like, sure, I see the idea that if they're using conventional treads, maybe they would be useless in some areas because of the terrain, but you would still have other options. You'd still have artillery, especially if it's set up in a location, assumingly it would drop in. Like tanks were deployed and used against Montecasino. They were used in Russia. They used in the desert. They're still used in the desert. They were used in the book colleges. Tanks are not useful just in flat terrain. Are they less useful in certain types of terrain? Sure.  And I think you'd assume that they would be dropped in. That they can't have any other form of like movement. Like why would we assume that the Starship Troopers sort of technology means they'd only have that specific kind? Like, I assume they'd have some other stuff. Things that could be like the bug. The ideal platform would simply just be a fast, solid-wield vehicle with a couple of twin-linked heavy machine guns. You fantastic. Perhaps a power armor suit. Yeah, right. With jetpacks. But I don't understand this idea. Maybe a TAC-NUC on it. Yeah, the train's not good enough for jetpacks. The idea that air superiority doesn't win the day is constantly countered by every day in Syria. The Russian military is basically taking back most of the land with the Syrian ground forces doing the cleanup operation. Yeah. So if you could... And that's the Russian Air Force. That was fucking... Exactly. Yes, yes. See, and there's all the artillery that's available that's horse carried or whatever or mechanical that's on the ground, but you can't defend it against aircraft that have, what is it, laser-guided missiles or... Yeah, what are you gonna do? Right now, aircraft-based weapon packages are at the absolutely most lethal. And frankly, there is very little anti-aircraft defense that remains that is actually effective.  And that goes for whatever the aliens are gonna have. They have those giant plasma things that shoot slow projectiles. You can obviously send in... What's the A-10? What class of bomber is that? Whatever, it's close combat. Yeah, ground attack.  So, yeah. There you go. We've addressed something there, definitely. Another chance to rate the mobile infantry after my next video highlighting their positive aspects. And if you haven't seen Alan's video on clone trooper flaws yet, please check that out and vote there as well. Hmm, I can imagine that being annoying too. It's like the same argument, but it's copy pasted for Star Wars. But no, they make the opposites. They're like, the clones, they didn't volunteer. They're just conscripted. They're like, okay, all right. I think they can easily be countered by just going, hmm, an expendable army of the best bounty hunter in the galaxy. Yeah, a short term. Can't see the downside. A short-lived, temporary, essentially disposable, well-trained, biological unit that goes into battle again. Okay, well, yeah, that's not unreasonable. I guess we'll just finish this out and see what happens. And stay tuned for Alan's next video, which covers the advantages of clone troopers. For now, my friends, remember Argentina, obliterate the aliens, and humanity first. Wash your face. I'll catch you next time. Generation Films, peace. Toodle. We did it. We did it. I think he could have done a better job. That's just, that's my take, okay? Geez. Bizarrely unfair in weird perspectives. That was fun. Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where it's just like... That's the problems is when you have like a list. Okay, we need to find 10 things. We can only find three things. Fuck, make up the rest. Well, sort of have to like split that up into like five more somehow, and then just make up the rest. There was a guy in the chat called Blame the Controller in here. He's let me know that he'd be interested in just commenting on some of the stuff we've been over because of his experience. He's apparently watched the movie many times, read the books, eight years military, with staff, sergeant, trained soldiers, and was deployed, et cetera. We could point out some extra bits about how this guy was making dumb arguments. And he's able to pick up. We can explore a little bit, How much time we got you guys for now, Argonne?  Can we get even 10 more minutes or something? Not like watching a video just chatting. If I'm going to have a cigarette, then I'll be back and get another cup of tea. Yeah, go for it. I'll be back in a minute.  All right. Sounds good for me. I feel like we're going to have to collect up a whole bunch of questions for you guys.  They think just because you're here, that you will be here later. How insane is that? No sense of logic. Ridiculous. But I will think about trying maybe to do a de-fap in future, where it's literally just talking about the stuff the super chats have said to you guys, because like I said, I've got like 30 questions saved from last time, and then there'll be the ones this time, too. We had a backup video, but it looks like we won't need it. So, Glib, how's your day been? It's been great. Excellent. I am in the process of working through a script right now, and I had a table read the other day, so that's going pretty well. How's your Patrick Willems thing going? My Patrick Willems video is about 75% complete, I'd say. There's a couple of things that I want to rerecord, because I don't really like my own points as much as I did, and then the visual aspect. Now I understand how hard it is for you guys to find relevant footage. Sometimes it's just, you have to go through all your library. Paul Bethel has been suffering through that, because he's been editing his job-wick video. He's like, look at Nightmare, when you spend like an hour and you get, oh yeah, I managed to get that five seconds right. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Sometimes it's really rewarding. I've been talking to a lot of people and showing them my stuff, and people seem to like it, so I think I'm on the right foot. I wonder, I just am nervous about what the effect is going to be, because I haven't done this before. So I don't know if it's going to be just a flop or whatever, and get like a couple hundred user, if it's going to have some kind of impact. And if Patrick sees it, I wonder what his response is going to be. If he finds out you have any association to evap, you won't respond at all, I think. It's not going to be hard. You'll just need someone to tell him that, and then he'll be over. But yeah, I guess we'll see. It could be interesting. Yeah, and I'm excited to get past it too, because I want to start just doing straight movie reviews, because responses I feel like are best done organically. When you have to actually like write something out, and then read how the other person's wrong, it feels like a court document. Yeah, I suppose I can read out a couple of the questions I've got here. There's specific for Arch, if you're interested. Go ahead. Like I'm going to pick these at random, until they're all gone one day, which I'm sure we'll have. Hey Arch, do you know the YouTuber Lutin09? His 40k law vids are very entertaining. Yes, I do know him. The good shit? Hang on, well actually. Oh well, there you go then. Hi Arch, if you're still here. You are my web way drug into 40k. What is your favorite 40k or inspired by 40k game? Favorite 40k game? That's a difficult one. That's a large question these days, because there's quite a lot of 40k games now. It's gotta be one. I think honestly, I gotta go with one of the old classics, Shadow of the Horned Wraths, just because of it did shit that was so cool and forward for its time. Like it was total war back in 1900s. That's a good one. Yeah, I don't play a lot of 40k games, because I'm not huge in like RTSs and stuff, and a lot of them tend to be that. But I really liked the Space Marine, and I have really enjoyed both of the Vermintide games, though those are the End Times. And I generally have a bit of a preference for fantasy over sci-fi, but both of those games slash series have been really good. Really good. And then it ended with, and if you're not still here, hi Jay, big fan. We found out Jay. Why though? Arch, can vampires sustain themselves on orphans? I don't know. It's a bit of a unique taste, I suppose, but I don't see why not. Well, we established long ago that orphan blood has like slightly different rules, but I suppose you would know whether or not it's possible vampire experience. I happen to say that it's going to be a lesser taste. It's probably going to sustain them, naturally. Yeah, it'll probably sustain them in the same way that the reflected light from the moon doesn't kill them. Tell Arch that the Death Core of Kreeg is the best regimen and anyone who disagrees is a heretic. It's not far from the truth. Tain it first and only. And that Kreeg Astartes would be scarier than anything in the warp. They're not hard enough to be Astartes. Hi Arch, I love your content. Tell the story of Tusker Daemon Killer and the Blood Prince Balls. Blood Prince's Balls. Tusker Daemon Killer. So Orcs like fighting. That's the only thing they like. They just want to fight. And so they wandered into the warp on a Daemon world, the Daemon world being a planet outside of reality where the Daemon in question decides all the rules and he got insulted by the arrival of the Orcs. So what a bridged version. Tusker didn't care about his offense and crushed his nuts in a paraclaw. The Daemon didn't enjoy this. The Daemon then cursed them to stay on his planet for all eternity and being slaughtered every day for best of eternity in a giant battle. The Orcs could not have been happier. My God, so many facade on Arch. You're just not as cool apparently. That's true. Also Ho Ho Hai Hai rags. Ho Ho Hai Hai. And Cole for Jay. Yeah, no, that's fair. You've got any more for you in my selection? Yeah, this giant one is just so many saga ones. Disgusting. Well, and I think I think the guy is actually trying still to join. He's having some trouble, unfortunately. But yeah.  You guys remember that actor dude, Juicy Smollett, who claimed to have been attacked by people wearing mega hats? Yes. I remember all that. He has been indicted again for false testimony. Oh boy. For the same thing. Yep. Oh, joy. What's going to happen to him? So presumably whoever he paid off the first time has decided that he wants more money. Well, oh yeah. I guess I can look at the new ones as they get in as I try and organize a bit better. There's control left arch in the Superchats and I got 246 results. That can't be right. Something's wrong. But the first of the citizens says, Arch, what do you think of Titanicus? Titanicus depends. Are we talking the video game? Are we talking the board game? Are we talking the organization? Broad question. I have no idea. Which one do you are you most familiar with? I'll leave it all of them. Well, if you're talking about the book, Titanicus by Dan Abnet, that was pretty good. He's talking about the board game. I don't know. I haven't played it. If he's talking about the video game, then that was okay.  Bit of a broad question, as I mentioned. Oh, now I'm getting like a whole bunch of new ones for you specifically. Hey Arch, have you heard of Voldemort's guide to Warhammer? His audio drama slash law is very nice. I have not heard about that. No, sadly. If you could witness the combat of any war in history, what would it have been? The combat. So combat A battle? Yes, I assume. From a position of relative safety, I would assume. Oh, sure. Yes, let's just, yeah. It'd probably be Kersk because that would be fun. Just thousands of all my vehicles blowing each other apart. And so it'd be after the guns, after firearms, some sort of conflict that was in the Middle Ages. In the Middle Ages, just a lot of bunch of dudes bopping each other over the head with heavy metal objects. It's boring. I don't know. Let's think about it. Boring to you. Talk about like a marathon and stuff like that. We have naval aspects of it. Bunch of sweaty men just pushing up against each other for very long periods of time. Stabbing occasionally. As well. So you like the longer range explosive combat? The thing with hoplite combat is it's, yeah, it's really boring. You've got the heavily armored dudes up front. You know, they're not all taking that much damage. You've got big hoplons. They're shoving and grunting at each other.  Think about like castle sieges and stuff of that nature. That could be nifty.  No, no, like sieges, actual sieges. I mean like Jerusalem and stuff.  Those are outliers, though. You don't usually want to attack. But you get to pick them and you get to pick the individuals you want to see. You could wash the, I don't remember the name, but that sieges the Romans did against the Jews in Israel where they had like a giant mountaintop fortress and the Romans being the autistic little cunts they were. It was like, yeah, we're just going to build a ramp 100 meters tall, screw you. Wasn't that the Siege of Masada? That might be it, yeah. I think, I'm not sure. I love the Romans approach to Siege warfare. Like there was the famous quote that nobody knows if he's real. If one guy was like, aha, we've got no food to last us five years in a day. And the Romans were like, cool, we'll come back into five years in two days and take your city.  I bet there'd be a lot of awesome choices because ramming, penetrations, meh. Mola playing tabletop with Arch and the Gang when? Tabletop for nudes. I play real men games. That like Simpsons hit and run. That's a real man game. Will Movie Bob be a villain in VTM Arch? I don't think I can fit him in the script. Movie Bob?  He would probably fit in the Soviet Union, though. He's the one in charge of eating all the food. In charge of the eating. Supernatural aspect of gluttony or stuff. Arch, have you seen my Arch marines versus Tyranids fan art yet? That's from Mendez with hands. Or Mendez with hands, I'm not sure. I have not. Where has it been put? He's not specified, but that was the account name. Also, high rags. Hello. Some Arch, the Imperium using the death core versus the CIS. Deathcore, man. CIS. Are they referring to the droids? Yes, to the droids. Yeah, those guys. They're probably deathcore. The droids are retarded.  The thing is, with that kind of technology, you should actually be able to build an absolutely superb automated army really easily. And yet they didn't. They made them comic relief. Well, yeah. The weird choice I always found was in the Revenge of the Sith. They make the droid voice goofier. Like in the first two, they're almost low-pitched and very utility-based noises, as in like, Roger, what are you doing here? How is this, blah, blah, blah. But then in the third one, they're like, I guess more child-friendly? And remember when they're falling over, they're like, wow, that sort of thing? It's like, huh. Why would you program your droid, your battle droid, to make that noise? In case it's a surprise, it needs to be able to vocalize that surprise. I need it, yeah, because when I first saw it, even as a kid, I was just like, this is odd. These don't feel like Archie Weave. Talk about your favorite, Isakai. Isakai. All right, that's... We're getting into the deep anime now, are we? Favorite Isakai.  Why are these broad questions? It's difficult to come up with one thing. I'm so sorry, the realm of the super chat. Favorite Isakai. Um, Tanya the Evil. That counts as Isakai. Um, Arch. Movie? Am I? I guess Mobile Infantry. This is the deathcore of the Kreeg.  DKOK versus the entire Terran Federation. Who wins? That's cool. They have more dudes. And uh, and the follow-up, I guess, is how large is the TFs and Mobile Infantry's trauma? As in like, I guess, what would their losses be? Trauma. Hmm, large and sad.  Wait, some people have said, Shad disagrees with what? Anything Arch said was there? Don't know. Um, Hey there Arch, love your videos man, you helped me really get into 40k. Quick question, do you plan to do lore videos about the Farsight Enclave, Farsight himself, and or how that faction operates? Possibly? Hell, even probably. But when? Only God knows. Hmm, four runners from Halo, or Necron from obviously, Force for Arch please. Necrons. Hmm, the Necrons literally eat stars and use them as ammunition. Oh, I can do that. Anyone can do that, it's easy. Yeah, the four runners were pretty, I mean, they had the, you know, being able to build all the Halo installations and all that stuff. Have we seen the four runners? Have we actually seen what their civilization looked like, or just their robots? No, I think we only kind of just see the remnants of what they left behind, and we have to go with the implications of it as far as I'm aware. Yeah, I didn't play Halo 4 or 5, so I don't know. But based on the scale of the stuff they were able to create and build and what it could actually do. Well, let's put it this way. If Space Marine armor can be flayed, like layer by layer, by a simple Gauss gun from the Necrons if I recall, then it stands to reason that they would be able to take out the four runners because they're not that much more powerful than... I don't think that stands to reason because a lot of the four runners of what we understand is they're, we know them most by their large installations and they're like, remember what the Halos were meant to do. Yes. So knowing that they could do that, you know, what else could they do as a result or by implication? It's certainly, you have to... Yeah, you're right. Yeah, so I don't know.  That's pretty potent. But we don't know what the Necrons are doing, though. They're just doing it slower because they like making people suffer. I don't know if there's enough information on the Halo side of things and I think that the Necrons are deliberately ambiguous in how powerful they are. Isn't it because the Necrons are actually a creation of another species, right? The Necrons tricked them into all walking into a gigantic machine that turned them into brain-dead metal monstrosities for the most part. So isn't it more reasonable to say the Necron versus the four runners as opposed to the Necrons? And is the big thumbs somehow bitch-slapped by the Necrons and the new Fluff and now they're their slaves, basically? Oh, jeez. Well, I don't know anything about the new additions. I can't... In my world, just so that you understand, Cadia still exists, but... In my world, Cadia still exists as well. Yeah. So whatever the actual Fluff is right now, I can't call into reason, but I don't know. Seems like there's not enough information. Archimperium fighters versus F-22 Su-35 other 5th gen. I feel like that might be a weird thing to listen to in terms of the things we posted it in case it makes more saids when written. Imperium fighter F-42, Sierra. Yeah, that's a modern-day fighter. It really depends. Like the thing is, the Imperial fighters avoid capable craft. So they could literally just be chilling in the absolute upper atmosphere using guided weaponry and our modern aircraft would not really be able to engage them at all effectively. But down on ground level, in a dogfight, yeah, the modern aircraft would actually vastly outperform Imperial Thunderbolts and Lightnings because they were designed to be rugged war horses capable both of atmospheric operation and void operations. Hey Arch, have you heard of Voldemort's guide to warhammer, his audio drama? Oh wait, did I read that already? I think I did. You did? I'm so sorry. And that one was... Oh yeah. Is Arch a car guy? Car. I own one. It moves when I press buttons. That makes you a car guy. Also speedrun hit and run. Maybe one day, if one metal comes over, I'll speedrun it with it and we can hot seat it and have drinks. It'll be great. I'm back. Hello. Hello. And...  Oh wow. Abandoning again, huh? Yeah, well... Yeah, 10, 15 minutes. You promised you'd be here for 17 hours. I don't ever call making any kind of promise like that. And it's why I don't visit most of the countries in the world. It's like they're 17 hours away. Or more. Whoa, what a coincidence. Yeah, seriously, it does take ages to get anywhere. I hate it. I will, I mean, I may as well just take this time to read out a bunch of superchats that came in the last time you were here that were directed to you and see what we can do about getting as many of them through you before you leave. So... Sargon, did you see Dadsy Pelosi stutter today? I didn't. That would have been a month ago, I guess. Ham, ham, ham. Oh, right, that was eight ago. No, I didn't. No, I don't know. That's referring to... Sargon, you're finally... Go ahead. Well, just her impending loss in the impeachment, presumably.  How are you? I'm very well, thank you. Gonna drop F for a start is really infuriating what happened to him. You got all that back now, right? Yeah. Good. All right, can you hear me now? Hello. Oh my god. All right, finally. That was embarrassing. Is the quality okay, by the way? Yeah, it's good. You sound good. Okay, I have three different microphones on my desk. There's actually a reason for it. And I just spent the last 15 minutes trying to figure out why a microphone wouldn't work on a computer that it wasn't connected to. Because I have it connected to a different computer. And I was pressing the buttons. I'm unplugging stuff. I'm going in the back. And I'm like, why is this microphone? Why is this Yeti not working? It was working literally 12 hours ago. And I finally came to the brilliant realization that I was using the microphone for the other computer. So problem solved. Excellent. What did you want to talk about? Well, now we're like an hour late. But no, it's just like when I was hoping the video was going to be longer. But when you was talking about just the military stuff. Now, you know whenever you watch a movie and you see them doing something that you are proficient in. For a lot of you guys, it's probably gaming and stuff. Every video game depiction in a movie or TV is just beyond idiotic. They have the flapping mannerisms of like my mother did when the first time she ever tried to play Mario Brothers. Trying to get the character to jump and move in the controlled around frantically. But when you're talking about military stuff, like anyone who's been in the military, like when they do stuff in these movies, like there's so much stuff that's wrong.  Yeah. Well, you know what, and the thing that's actually aggravating is there are military advisors on all these movies. Every single movie that has anything to do with the military, whether it's realistic or fictional, they have military advisors that are telling them to do stuff. And like, when I see mistakes, I'm like, how did you let this go through? But I guess when you're talking about like this dude who's like reviewing a military movie, and he's critiquing military things, when he clearly has no understanding whatsoever about how any of this stuff works. And again, sorry, go ahead. I was just going to ask you if you had any examples that you thought were like pretty pertinent. Like, was there anything in the tactics or the in Starship Troopers that you feel like he was unjustly? The way he treats the men. But they're not robots. What do you think about the idea that they need to be sociopathic in order to rank the highest? So here's the thing. There is a breaking down kind of aspect to it. When you get into basic training, which is kind of the start of the movie, they do treat you like garbage. Just like what you've seen in Full Metal Jacket and the other ones, they treat you like garbage. The point is to strip you down to basically just the raw you. And then they try to rebuild you in the way that the military needs you to be. You have to go through some not pleasant stuff when you're in the army. And you need to have the mental fortitude to deal with that stuff. So it starts out with very little things, you know, them just making fun of you for having glasses or being overweight or something. But eventually you have to realize that the potential end is you in a real firefight and your buddy who you've been friends with for the last three years gets shot in the head. Like that's a very real thing. And you need to have the mental... I mean, no one is ever going to be fully prepared for something like that. But the idea is that you don't collapse into nothingness and you don't start just balling and curling into a ball. You need to be able to do what needs to be done. Drag your buddy over to the side so that he's protected. Administer first aid if you need to and then continue the fight. So it's not so much as like making sociopaths or nothing like that, but you do need to have a mental toughness and an emotional toughness. And a lot of people just don't have that. And certainly not to the level that the military needs. So they really do need to break you down. When I was going through basic training, I always... It didn't faze me. Because I knew it wasn't personal. I mean, it was still... There's certainly some things that will tick you off.  Actually, before I got out, they actually asked me to be a drill sergeant at boot camp. And I was like, no, I think I'm gonna pass on that one. I would rather just get out now. That's already interesting. Yeah, yeah. Are you gonna relate it back to the whole sociopathy element that he was sort of advocating for you? What was your opinion on that sort of take from him? The... Oh, so I do have to throw a caveat here. I didn't catch the... Like right when I started chatting in your live stream is when I started catching. I didn't catch it from the beginning. So, unfortunately... He basically says that a flaw with the mobile inventory is that they form very obvious bonds based on... For lack of a better term, affection or love, or they have very human reactions to a lot of things. They need to be hardened and turned into... And he uses the word sociopaths as if that's a... No, that's dumb. Well, don't care for the people around you. Every soldier, you always form attachments to the other people in your platoon. And even if you... Here's the... I'll give you a great example, okay? When I was going through... This is not the basic training story. When I was going through basic training, my platoon, third platoon, warriors, we hated one another. I cannot stress the amount of internal animosity that was present in this platoon. We absolutely hated one another. But when it came to the training exercises, we dominated everyone, every single time. Because when you're in that platoon, even if you don't really care for the guys next to you, you are still on the same team and you're still on the same goal. So, you...  Like, you know...   Come on, come on. So, there's a sort of camaraderie that you get. And that's from people you don't like. When you actually like people, it's even more. So, you're never just gonna be like this robotic terminator thing on the battlefield. As much as you want to complete the mission, you care about your friends. I mean, this is why men will jump on a grenade in order to protect their buddies. Like, it's not that you're less human, it's that you are very much human. You're even more to an extent because you're willing to give your life to save your friends. Even the dude who you don't even like in the platoon. So, the idea that everybody is just like the sociopaths or whatever is just ridiculous. Can I ask us the quick question? Have you ever had any experience with conscripts before in training with other military or... Yeah, I was in NATO for two years, stationed in Naples, Italy. And that was a disaster. I'd rather go back to Iraq. For the sake of argument here again, just to clear one thing up, Italians are not white. I also worked closely with some British soldiers when I was in Kuwait. And in Iraq, there's also the international forces and stuff. So, I also did some training exercises with a bunch of people, some Polish soldiers and stuff. Did you ever have any accidents in your training exercises or live fire exercises? Yes. Nobody got killed, though.   That actually happened when I was going through basic training. So, it's not totally unreasonable that something like that would happen. It is real. So, that was, truth be told, that was the single most terrifying experience of my entire basic training. I went through the live fire that you guys mentioned before where they're literally shooting over your head with live rounds. Like, it's about 10 feet off the ground and you have to crawl through mud and there's like the real explosions. We granted they're behind these little kind of fence barricade mound thingies but there are real explosions, real bullets going over your head and you have to crawl through it. That's not very fun. But the single most terrifying experience was with the live grenades because some of these guys are dumb, all right? So, that's another point where he's wrong about the army having all hyper-intelligent people. Oh, God, no. Some of these guys are dumb. Well, who thought that they were all hyper-intelligent, though? Oh, no, no. Well, you were saying that he's a bad protagonist.  None of us.  It's like, no, you fucks.  Like, it's not you, is it? It's not middle-class soft-handed journals fighting for the country. No, it's the rough patriots from the heartlands who end up fighting for the country. So, there's an aspect of that I've always just hated the kind of shitting on the working class.  You know, it's all quite high-minded, really, as well. So, yeah, anyway, sorry, I don't want to... No, no, no, it's fine. But it's just an obvious, you know. Well, I mean, you have to realize that there's different jobs, too, right? Like, it's... So, I was what's a 25 Bravo. The long, fancy name is Information Systems Operator Analyst. Normal speak, it's just computer guy. So, I ran networks.  But, I mean, you have different specialties in the military. Not everyone is, like, just in, you know, a knuckle-dragging. Military soldier. Yeah, moron, right? But going... I want to tell the grenade story because it's actually pretty funny. So, some of these guys are not too bright, right? And you have about 200 soldiers, okay? We're in two single-file lines, so 100 each.  Every single one of them has a live grenade held to their chest. And I wouldn't trust some of these guys to carry the eggs in from the grocery store. And these guys are holding live grenades. I was so...  What is gonna do it?  There's a sequence that they teach you. You hold the grenade a certain way. You swipe out the... You sweep out the key. You let the spoon pop, and then you throw it, right? And I went up there, I did my thing. That's it. Good. Get out of the line. It's actually kind of funny because when the drill sergeants are dealing with you, when you have live ammunition or a live weapon or something, they will treat you like, you know, the best ever, right?  Like, it's hilarious to see this switch. But after I threw mine, yeah, someone fumbled theirs and they had to duck behind the barricade thing and it went off. And I was like, oh my God. And I'm like, I'm just glad this is over. But yeah. So they're not all rocket scientists. That's for sure. They're not. And it's not an insult to say that. It's just a fact. And with highlights, you guys are misinterpreting the video. He wasn't comparing them to a modern army. He was comparing them to space marines. And I think that's as retarded as being like cavemen and modern military. They're both human. So let's compare their tactics. Yeah. And also it's apparently a series where he's judging space marines versus other space marines versus other space marines. And to like the comparison, for example, with Master Chief on intelligence, it's so unfair when you know the context difference. Like it's just like, what is the point of this discussion if you're going to be bringing in like things from fiction that are completely different? Like what is it? You're going to conclude that they're not doing as good of a job as the people in Halo when there's a completely different technology and time. I mean, I agree that that's a valid thing to do, but maybe you should have mentioned it. Not if you conclude, what I'm trying to say is that it's an interesting comparison to say which one might win in a theoretical fight. But I figured that was obvious from the get go with something like this comparison. You're like, which is the better space marine? Like in Master Chief or Rico? It's like, I don't think there's even an argument to be made. Actually, Rico would destroy him if it was in the book. It's kind of a shame that they didn't do it. In fact, I think maybe Sargon can back me up on this one. I believe the Starship Trooper book is the thing that popularized the idea of Mech Infantry, because in the book, they had power armor and it was described as looking like a giant gorilla. And you were like 10 feet tall. What does Master Chief do? I've never played it. Is it Halo comes from, right? His abilities aren't particularly like... Imagine a really, really, really good... I'm going to have to head out. So I'll talk to you guys again later. Well, before you go, do you want to just let people know about your channel so that you can go check you out if they haven't already? Or not? It's completely... Well, everyone has to do it. It is a rule. His channel's Arch Warhammer. Go and watch it. What does he do there? You got to tell people what he does there, otherwise they'll be confused. I speak noises about Warhammer 40,000. Usually, yes. And other things. And he's deep in the lore. If you liked his perspective, if you enjoyed his voice, check out his channel. It is in the chat and in the description. And thank you very much for hanging out with us. It's a lot of fun, dude. We'll have you back sometime if you're willing. Yeah, sure. Well, this was a lot of fun, but I have to run. So I'll talk to you, maybe even. Talk to us sometime. Yes. Yeah, we will catch you later. All right. Human intercourse. Oh, yeah. That was a great phrase. How much longer do you guys have right now? I woke up right when I started talking in the chat. I was up all night. I figured that once Sargon has to pop out and once you've said what you wanted to about that video, if you both pop out, we'll be doing super chats then until we reach the end of them. And I'd happily bring you on for a future episode if we ever get to cover. I'll see about checking out, because some people are complaining about that. They did a video on the clones from Star Wars.  And we can make that a future one, if you want. I think they might. I think they might. You know, clones don't think for themselves. I might duck out myself, actually, just because it's got midnight now and I don't want to be up all night.   Yeah, I know, I know. But I've got stuff to do tomorrow. That is absolutely fine. I didn't have anything to do. It would be fine. In that case, would you like to tell the people about your channel a little bit before you go? Oh, my channel is a CAD Daily and I just talk about just political things and things that are on my mind, I guess. But, you know, I tried to make it interesting. I don't waste people's time. There is a good chance that most people in chat have heard of you already. But hey, if not, and you enjoyed his take on Starship Troopers being a wonderful utopia and the bugs got what they deserved, Joker style, then check out his channel. Which they did. And it is. Love what you've been doing. Sorry I haven't been watching you since you had that white background and we made it to the Gamergate, so we can't get stopped. That's a definite age. Doesn't everything just feel so different now? It does, but I think that we're winning. Yeah, I agree.  Back in 2013, you couldn't actually criticize feminism publicly. It would get you shut down in the same sort of, like, worse than now. It was something you genuinely got persecuted over. Yeah. And over come so much more mainstream now. Yeah, I know. I was just gonna say, I'm pretty sure I found rags through you, Sargon. So I owe you extra. Anyway, right. Speak to you later. One more thing before you go. See you guys. There was a whole bunch of Super Chat questions. We'll get them to you one century. It'll be fine. I just wanted to read this one out to you. Yeah. This one says, Sargon, consider this your redemption chance.  Jesus. I was just so blown. I was like, whoa, all right. What have I even done? Reacting to a top 10 things wrong with Star Trek Troopers. That was your redemption, dog. I knew I could redeem myself. You did it. Anyway, thanks for having me on, guys. It was really fun. Yeah. I'll speak to you. I'll speak to you around. Catch you later. Someone said, you didn't get through many of them.  We got through more than I expected. I expected zero. We got through like 10, not bad. Sargon and Arch's collection, which will be ever growing. And this is the thing. I can't promise that these will get to them. I'll do my best to sort it out, but it's the way the cookie crumbles. The only ones that are guaranteed are essentially me and Rags will be able to get them every time. I still got like one or two for Jay in here, I think, and ER, Anna, Aiden, Jay Longbone. There's a couple of bits and bobs here everywhere. I'll just try and get them if I can get it. But yeah, I guess also, do you go by blame the controller or do you prefer a different moniker? Um, most people just call me blame or BTC. Blame, all right. Yeah. Um, what else was in that video? It was pretty significant. I think anything that came. Oh, yeah. I guess the medic calling for the. Yeah, that's yeah, that that was dumb. So whenever, whenever you have a training exercise, it doesn't even need to have live ammunition, live fire. Any training exercise is always, always going to have an ambulance with medics nearby, like always, like even if it's just a ruck march on Fridays, usually, well, the basis where I was at anyways, on Fridays, they would always have these huge runs, right with like the entire company or the brigade or whatever, right? So you've got literally thousands of people running. Kind of like, you know, almost marathon level, number of runners and stuff. And you're going to have ambulances and medics available for that too. And they're going to be spaced out intermittently. I mean, that's their job. They it's it's kind of like being, you know, just like a paramedic and EMT or something like that. That's what they do. They just, you know, if they're not actually responding to a real emergency right then and there, then they're going to be assigned to whatever training missions are going on for and it doesn't have to be their company, right? Because there's, you know, there's medical companies and medical brigades.   And blah, blah, blah. So they're all there's always going to be there. I know it's like a trope where people like yell medic, you know, after someone gets hit, but that's what actually happens. So it's- That's what I thought. Yeah, even if something gets killed, you still call for a medic, right? Even if they're clearly- Yeah. I was, I had something called a combat lifesaver designation. It's like a baby medic, basically. Like they teach you how to give an IV, CPR, you know, how to give a, what is it called? It's like a nasal pharyngeal thing. It's when you stick a tube down someone's nose so they can breathe. Yeah. So like I, when we would go running, I had to like carry my combat lifesaver pack with me, which had like some IV and, you know, the other stuff in it, which was fun. I enjoyed having to run with that extra gear. And then, so like even if someone was like injured or someone needed help right away, like I could do it. And if I couldn't do it, then the medics would do it, who were like 500 feet away. So the idea that like there isn't going to be medical staff or that you shouldn't call for them is just so dumb. Well, this is the thing. I mean, even as layman who have like no real experience with any of this definitively in a personal manner, it was just like, I don't know, seems like it makes sense that you would call them for the medic. Like, I mean, even if the guy is like stone cold dead, like he was in that example, like, are you just going to leave the body there and continue the, continue the training exercise? He should have shouted coroner. Or something else, I suppose. Like I need someone to arrange the funeral for the departed. So I'll tell you, I'll tell you exactly what would happen. Like if it was real life, exactly what would happen. If someone gets injured like that, because someone actually, here's another story. They were doing training exercises in Kuwait before we went north into Iraq.  And you might be asking, oh, like, they just aimed it down at their foot and they shot. No, no, no, no. It's much more interesting than that. So they have these firing ranges where they're practicing. Now, as it turns out, hard metal surfaces will cause a ricochet. Oh my God.  Somebody should do something about this. There's a bunch of targets downrange. And there's also some metal containers, shipping containers. Well, someone got the good idea, Ferry, to shoot one of the metal containers and it ricocheted back. And I don't know where exactly it hit him. I think it might have hit him in the leg or something. I mean, it was, no, it was the arm. That's right. It was the arm. She hit herself in the arm, because I saw her walking around with a sling later on. And she actually was dumb enough to ask for a purple heart, which is for injuries, but it has to be sustained by enemy fire. And shooting yourself is not going to get you the award. But so whenever something like that happens, right, whenever, whenever someone gets injured, like everything stops. Like it is like a remote control with a freeze button from a bad Adam Sandler movie. You press the stop button. Nobody does anything. Nobody moves. They find out what happened. Why was this person injured? And then there's all sorts of paperwork after action reports and all that sort of stuff after, after the effect. So it's not like, like, I don't know what that guy was like. Why is he yelling for a medic? What do you expect them to do? Like just continue with the training exercise and leave the dude bleeding on the, on the floor. Yes. Yeah. And precisely that. Sufficient training to fight the bugs. Yeah. Anything else that sort of came to mind if you wanted to talk about it from the video? Because I know that there was just, he was saying all kinds of things. Yeah. Unfortunately, like I said, I didn't come in till, till the tail end of it. I wish I would have gotten it earlier, but I'm sure you said all kinds of stupid stuff. We'll just assume. Um, well, in that case, I was going to say like I will, I've got you as a contact now, or at least through Discord. I will set something up with you in the future if you're interested. And I'll try and make it military focused if that is more preferable. I mean, you can if you want. I do have a little bit more knowledge than just military. So I mean, I'm open to coming on for anything. Oh, it's always just nice to find like a topic that people are more familiar with rather than generally familiar with. Yeah. But as far as my, my channel goes, I do gaming. So it's if you like overwatch, then you can come to my channel. But otherwise, if you're looking, like I actually am trying to start like a modern media pop culture kind of thing. With movies and stuff, but I haven't gotten that off the ground yet. So right now I just run the Do you have a link to your channel or something? So we can post and chat. Yeah, it's it's just blame the controller. And do you do that all? Do you blame the controller? Not as often.  And when I was growing up, like, you know, if Mario fell on the pit or something, it was not uncommon for people to quite literally blame the controller. Like, you know, I pressed the button. Why didn't it work kind of thing? So that's where it came up with. That's the right on. Well, I put your channel into chat and I'll put it in a little bit later as well as arches. And I will pop it in the description on the reupload official. I appreciate it, guys. It's been fun. I, you know, I like listening to you guys and it's pretty cool to get to join you in and rip someone apart. Well, thank you for your insight. It's been interesting. And hopefully we'll hear more of it in the future as well. All right, guys. Catch you later. Doodle. See you. I'll be going. Yeah. All right, Rags. And I'm glad, I suppose we are four hours in, which means we have a grand total of seven to knock out super chats. Nice. I wonder if it'll be possible. Nah. So I'm just going to hit the ground running on these. We ready to do this? We're ready to do this. All right. First one. Hi, Mola. I have a suggestion for Discord. In the description of the Cantina, how about posting a link to 100 hours of Cantina band music on loop? Now, when the Discord was being set up and turned over to a Star Wars themed one, we actually did at one point. Didn't we like have a bot that sat in the Cantina playing the music on relatively low? I think that was like a thing that we put in place. I'm pretty sure. But didn't you take it away because it was being abused? Oh, I can't. I didn't take it away, but the mods might have. I can obviously there's probably a lot of ways that can not only go wrong, but also be really annoying. But obviously, if you need Cantina music in the Discord, just throw it up on one of your browsers. It's the right way to do it. EFAP quote without context of the day. It's a subtle reference to the liberation of clams everywhere. Yes, clam liberation is very important. Let's say that quote makes a lot of sense. I very much stand by it if I said it. I can believe that. Whether or not I said it. Um, I've been waiting for this EFAP. I'm sick of tired of people not understanding Starship Troopers, Godspeed, Sargon, also High Rags and Moosley. Hello. Oh, I like talking about Starship Troopers, though people get very testy about it. I have seen from different discussions online. And I'm just, it's all right. It's been so long since my last EFAP. I mean, oh yeah. I guess because EFAP Saturday and Tuesday, obviously the next one now won't be until the following weekend. So it'll be a bit of a gap, but Infinity Tism's five and a super chat catch up three are both going to come out in between then. And maybe if it feels about right, we could try and get those Lord of the Rings EFAPs out finally. Oh my God. That was like 12. That was so long ago. There are a few alive now who could remember it. Exactly.  And I'm like, I hope people enjoy the commentary at that point because it was before I started going more crazy with the editing and stuff. So, but yeah, I want to do a premiere of Fellowship of the Ring. I'm just concerned that it might get booted because live streaming copyright content seems to have different rules than uploading it. So we'll give it a shot. If it doesn't work, we will redo. We will re-edit. We'll do things. Hopefully it'll come out because I am excited to see it. I want to see it. Oh, yes. Again. Sargon and Arch, what foul warp magic is this?  That takes magic here. It was the Emperor as well. Disappointed that I'm leaving for work right as the crossover I've been waiting for takes place. But this will make tomorrow much better. I'll see everyone later and service guarantees citizenship. Of course.  Don't see it. Also High Sargon, Arch and Rags. Hello. And yeah, I've been hearing a lot of things about Bids of Prey. Nothing that it's fantastic, but also nothing that it's like a complete horrible disaster. I've mostly just been finding it sits that are like bad to okay. It's in that area. It might be worth checking out just because it sits in that area because I can't think of a movie that was great, that changed its title after the opening weekend. Oh, of course. I think that's definitive evidence that they're desperately trying to get it to be more successful and it's just not. Oh, Wags is upside down. Did you go visit Fad? I did. More, oh wait, I read that. So build a wall around Yellowstone? Got it. I don't know if a wall is going to do much, but maybe if the wall is made out of some space age energy field that can actually stop the volcano. Or what is Yellowstone considered? Is it a volcano? Yeah, okay. Apparently it's going to split open in that geyser or whatever is going to become a volcano.  And yeah, whenever I hear about it in like media, it's always described as like, yeah, we don't actually know.  And it's like, oh, what if you'd like, could you theoretically sneak in there if you were a crazy person and drop a grenade into it?  Or would it take a hell of a lot more than that to set it off? I think that the idea is that the plate tectonics have to move to release. Oh, okay. Like a grenade wouldn't do it. All of that end up pressure? Like a grenade wouldn't do it. No, I think it has to be deeper. What about? What yield of explosive would be able to do it? If possible, at all, I wonder.  Damn it. That's the whole reason I brought you on, dude. I assumed that it would have somewhere that was inside where the magma actually was and had enough pressure to push it through. But at the same time, I don't know if that would set off the necessary reaction to cause it all to explode outwards. So we suggested a nuke. It's like, well, at that point, the nuke will just do the damage anyway. But yeah, it looks to be, most people describing it as a super volcano and that it's overdue to eucentisms. So that'll be something else to be concerned about. Yeah. Hey there. Hey, man, there's a Creamy Sheave imposter using a different PFP in chat. My YouTube account is Creamy Sheave Palpatine while his is just Creamy Sheave. We'll try and keep an eye out for that. We wouldn't want quotes being attributed to the wrong Creamy Sheave. Remember the full Creamy Sheave Palpatine? There's an important difference. The Ewok cannot commit 50% of crime if you disable his hand. This is true. I saw someone last stream tell Rags to sit on their face, so I will say it too.  Also, hi, Wag. Oh, oh, hello. And absolutely, man. I'm down with that. Hope you know what you're doing. And that's from the guy who was asking about favorite Star Destroyers. So yeah, all bad. And he wants to like my answer a whole lot. Don't worry, Mola. Time stamping at three minutes. I give this stream 18 more minutes before total collapse. We survived. We survived. Hey, Fappers. Why don't you like Interstellar? I love it. And do you think Tenet will be good despite the time? Shenanigari? Gansh... Shenanigantary. Who knows with Tenet? Who knows? I'd be interested to see it probably. As for Interstellar, um... Since we want to do, you know, we'll do the thing like we did with Mandalorian. The navigation via love portion of the film where they discussed that is like the stupidest thing ever, or at least it's up there. And the method by which all of the problems are solved when you take a step back and look at the entire plot line of the movie is utterly ridiculous.   So Rags, tell me, if you're like a, let's say a frustrated farmer who's a lot of you, a lot of your crops are getting burnt up or infected, all right? So you're in a bad mood.   You come home and do you know what you find? What do I find? You find your son sitting at a table and a doctor having checked something about him. Now, of course, you're pissed about that, right? Yeah, what's up? So the doctor says to you, your kid has a serious problem.  You can't breathe properly. So what is your reaction to that? Oh, well, I guess we got to go somewhere else. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, you punch him. My son? You punch the doctor. Oh, okay. Like, how dare you have a breathing problem in my house? And it's, it's a part of the film where you have to slow because they basically, it's shot quite, the soundtrack is going a bit crazy because it's while Matthew McConaughey and Matt Damon are fighting each other, it's intercuts between these two things. I believe.  He's like, how dare you check my son? It's like, okay. All right. Enjoy your dead son then. It's, it's weird. But there's a lot of things that I guess I should eventually be able to go over when I decide to cover in Stella One Day. And I know it's a tad irrational how much I hate it. I just felt extremely condescended to when I was watching the entire film while in the cinema. I don't, I don't, I don't think you're being irrational at all. It's totally rational when they brought in the power of love or whatever that was like jumping the shark for the movie for me because it's, the movie tries so hard to be somewhat realistic, if not accurate. And then it just pulls this kind of abstract thing like they couldn't figure out how to logically solve this issue.  Oh my God. Yeah. Is it the one where it's so shallow they could walk on it? But there's an enormous wave heading toward them but they thought it was about it. That's the deep end. That's the deep end of the planet. It's like a pool. It definitely does the thing where it's like, hey man, it's, it's like sci-fi and gravity and it's fine.  The moon is very close to the planet and it's moving very fast. So all of these waves are moving fast as well. That's what we're supposed to assume with that. But yeah, hopefully that's, that's enough now in terms of why I don't like that movie. But I do actually want to make a video on that one day, one day. What's worse, a communist or a YouTube system or YouTube system? Okay. At least with the communist, you sort of know what you're getting. But with YouTube, it's like every day is a magical surprise and you have no idea what wonderful things will happen today. We got a question for Mr. Sargoni. I'll have to save it. Quick play Sargon's theme. I don't even know what that would be. Quick play Sargon's theme. Well now they've got a clip of you saying that. How wonderful for them. Oh my god. Now they have to come up with Sargon's theme.  I cannot confirm or deny that may have been confirmed or denied. Okay. Hey rags. Well it just says hey rags. Oh hey. And then it asked me to pronounce a word. I want to ask you to pronounce it first. Okay. Silence definitely. They want you to pronounce that? Well I will pronounce it. It's a it's a Welsh word but they want you to pronounce it. Well they don't actually I'm curious to see what you would pronounce it as. I'm gonna let's say Simru. It's actually pronounced Cymru. Cymru. Cymru. It's Cymru. What does Cymru mean? What does that word mean? Oh I'm pretty sure it's Welsh or Wales let me check. Because there's a party named after that and I never knew what that meant. I know what plaid means. Yeah it means Wales. Ah. We add it. So that's like the the the nation name. Is there a name for Welsh people that's like that? Yeah. Disgusting cretin. I mean well I'm not 100% sure. The Welsh. What is the Welsh in in in Waelish is what you're asking yeah? Or not? I don't know. What are you asking? Oh I was just asking what the name for the Welsh people are in Welsh. So what is Welsh in Welsh? The yeah but for the name of like the people like we're Americans and someone from Wales would be what in Welsh? Is it just called the Welsh? They are the Welsh yeah. That's that's why it's it actually applies to us but when you guys like speak American we can actually say speak Welsh for the Welsh people. You can't say speak American for the American people you know. So it's so Cymru the word means Wales? Yes. But Welsh people are not Cymru something it's just Welsh. Oh well I don't actually know what um I guess oh Cymraeg that's what it means to Welsh is Cymraeg. Cymraeg what? Okay cool so like that. No rags it's clearly spelled this way. See that that's how it's spelled. I need you to come and get the Cymraeg for me. I made a mess in the kitchen.  What the okay that's not Welsh at all. You need you need to bring it into the kitchen because I uh. What is this accent you're doing? That is not Welsh. No one no one can do it. We are going to India today. Now that you're going to talk like a Welshman. It's completely different.  I am a Welshman I just came from India. You're going to watch Doctor Do little and you'll be able to nail the Welsh accent. Thank you come again. No uh oh great my two favorite YouTubers. Oh no my least two favorite YouTubers.  Well obviously I'm the favorite. I guess me and rags are the favorites. Yeah I'm cool with that. I guess we're the favorites and I guess glib and blame are your least favorites. Who would have thunk it. That's exactly the joke I was gonna make yeah. Who would have thunk it. I agree. It's not even a joke. Sagawn Mola gets your tree fitty this month. Well there you go uh. Hey Sagawn do something with razor fist. I can keep that for him. Lol not even finished with the movie Bob or Nazi quote and here you are with two massives. Hello wags. Hello. I I feel like that was a very interesting uh. So that's a very good Welsh accent. I I've been surrounded by it my whole life so it would make sense that I could probably. Chat says it checks out. Yeah um. Boo Mola EFAP at the same time as Metal Stream. Yes Metal tried to steal our viewership and he was pretty successful but he couldn't keep going so. He had to he had to give up I'm sorry. And question for Sagawn. Could trial be kept. I don't know what to do about this ranks like we'll have to. Even if we did a stream we're solely answering questions from Superchats with Sagawn and Arch. I feel like we still wouldn't get through all of them because then all of the Superchats would be asking them questions again if you know what I mean. Just infinite because we can do it because we can do those ketchup stuff but you know. What do we do with these I don't know. Greetings from the country of Le Frommage. I can't wait until Sagawn crashes this FAP. Jokes aside I thought you would like to hear that Sardonicast heard about your chat with I Hit Everything Muller. They hate it and want any discussion between you two to stop. Okay. I saw that on the reddit. I don't know the actual Sardonicast people. Oh sorry it says our Sardonicast it's not the actual. I obviously I seriously doubt YMS and I had everything would say anything like they would never want to speak to me again. I'd be surprised. Ralph maybe. Have you tried reaching out to Ralph? Have you tried talking? I think I yeah I did. I sent him a tweet before I don't think he does DMS. I could try an email but I haven't tried that yet I don't know. Yeah I don't know he would be an interesting person to talk to just to understand why he was going off on Joker specifically. I mean it's not like his content is consistently bad. I like some of his reviews a lot.   Remember when he was evil not gay? Yeah it's kind of like Smithers in Simpsons where the gayness was sort of like some implied stuff that you could run with that creates some fun jokes but then they seemed to crank it quite significantly and started to become like oh this is less funny and more strange now it's like their character.  Do you remember the the joke that everyone always references is he has like a naked Mr. Bird screen saver on his computer? It's just the kind of thing he's like wait what? And he just like Lisa sees it and he just goes oh you should probably ignore that. I thought Starship Troopers was trying to show a fascist society positively and portraying it as all right from the audience point of view was the most interesting. Well I mean that's what this whole there's a good portion of the stream about that today. I think it's an interesting discussion that sort of goes back and forth and a lot of it brings up the conversation of death of the author. Like literally stabbing the author to death once they've hit publish. Be it on a on a movie or a book or anything else. Also high rags and happy birthday early or belated. Um oh thanks very much early by day it'll be uh it'll be tomorrow. How many hours is that we might actually make it? The five? Well oh god it's it's 641 p.m. here. Oh so yeah we got another five and a half hours to go.  Yeah we could. Also I've read a few that was a little bit ahead there my bad. Um status of the Game of Thrones season eight end video. It's gonna be on the way I do want to make it. It's just that these are the things I gotta get through as well so it'll happen eventually. Who let the Inquisition in here be mindful of your heresy? Well yeah we kind of are heretics it's fine. Sagaon best doggo corgis or rags. Damn I'll just say that for him. I think you know I think we know. Do we know what he would say though Rags?  Is this I don't know if this was confirmed. Hello long man and rags. Hello. Hi. Have you heard of or seen the greatest American hero? It's a cheesy silly and funny tv show with decent writing. Check it out you'd like it. I've never heard of it. Never heard of it. Yeah cool. Have you heard of Josh Keef? I've enjoyed his videos but his latest one was bad. It bothers me because he's done well at being objective in earlier videos. It's titled 2010s action movies. I've got no idea who he is but I can give that a look see I suppose. I'll write a note. You never know where videos to cover come from in the life of an e-fapper? Could be from anywhere. Could be from your own mum. They just drop them in you're like oh thanks. Hello massives. I'm genuinely it's genuinely touching and great that you take the time to listen to your super chat slash chat and have a personal contact with your community. Thank you so much for this. Hope this goes on forever. Well yeah I like interacting with the peeps. I like it too. And yeah as for e-fap going on forever the sad reality is that it will destroy itself one day right? We get to episode 10 billion and I think that'll just be mean rags like Hey welcome to e-fap. Hey welcome dear to e-fap and space. This new Star Wars episode isn't so good. Star Wars episode 412 is terrible. I don't like this new female character she's lying. Four good Star Wars movies in the last 500 years. No I just go quiet wads of rags. It's like I think he's dead. He's like nope I'm here. This e-fap is going on my increasing backlog. Hopefully I get to finish it in March when I'm my own boss Freelancer. Cool I'll share some of that sweet moolah with my first big paycheck.  Very well sir thank you so much and I'm glad you're enjoying it. Good luck with becoming your own boss. Was loving Buffy until Seth Green showed up. Oh you don't like Seth Green? I like him Seth Green. I don't know if it's maybe a personal thing. Maybe he's had some Disney things in real life. But I've always liked him in Austin Powers, Robot Chicken and Borphy. Thoughts on Mathematosis Lost Art of Demon Souls. Not a huge fan of that video and this is the thing I really like Mathematosis. But I feel like he's advocating for like games that just explore different directions in the hope of finding some gold. As opposed to deciding this is how you do it and you only do it that way is too restrictive. And as much as I can appreciate the the former can lead to a lot of amazing things. I don't want to celebrate when they do it and they create garbage.  But he defends that one as being a great example of exploring. There's different ideas that are just like he runs away from you awkwardly until you get into a fight with him where he has like two moves. One of them can infinitely stun you if you're not careful.    You I feel like I've made this argument before you know what I'm talking about. It's a little bad because it's new. Everybody knows that. Oh I don't like automatically good. At this point we have our own culture based on our memes. I hope it's not too much for guests.  Nostar Mola and high rags. Hello Nostar indeed. Nostar. Um hey Mulesbury don't tell rag but I'm currently or I'm going to California to meet my new niece. What move why would that bad you hate California? You're going to California to to meet his new niece. Meet your new niece. All right. Maybe some some kind of maybe I'm assuming this is just a she's like her with the door open over in California is that what's going on? Oh I assume his brother or sister just had a kid in but he says don't tell rag. Don't tell rag. Yeah that's the part I was asking about I was confused. Why would rag be upset about that but again California could be lax on toilet door laws. Could be. What movie slash games slash things should I show her first to be a super duper cool tism's uncle? Go with some classic animated Disney movies. Yeah I've got some uh 2DM Pixar. I got some nephews just be like cool around them and enthusiastic and don't be dull and boring and well he was asking what media to show him. He's asking what media to show him. Oh uh maybe some of the older animated movies that are a little weird because to them it'll be it won't be like anything else you know like have them watch Return to Oz and see if it's chosen for life or if they just yeah yeah or wizards. We talk about space wizards a lot land wizards man they're terrifying. I don't know I think nowadays like playing video games with them. An option if you have that. Yeah prepare yourself for Fortnite. Well responsibly. Who's your guys favorite Mary Sue? Bonus points if said Mary Sue is the most damaging for its universe. So I'm confused by this question to a degree. Say it one more time.  Bonus points if said Mary Sue is the most damaging for its universe. My favorite Mary Sue. But like if it was most damaging for its universe wouldn't it not be our favorite. Yeah like I don't know if I could that wouldn't I wouldn't like it then. What if there are two separate questions. Well it says bonus points if said. Yeah the last one's more of a statement. All right well if we go with what's my favorite Mary Sue if Saitama can qualify which he can't necessarily qualify because he's not loved very significantly whatsoever. Isn't that satire though it doesn't I don't think that counts. What what do you mean just because it's comedic elements doesn't mean it isn't a dramatic story. Yeah the whole story. Yeah so I don't really think he's much of a Mary Sue because most of his issues he can't solve with his soon and he did train for it. But he can yeah and he does. In fact all the problems he comes up with against in the season he solves with his being strong. Well but all right so like what I mean is like he wants to go and go to a sale at a marketplace and then he misses it because he's this is why it's complicated and we'd have to be very because this is the thing right some people say that Ray doesn't qualify because she doesn't qualify with every single portion of Mary Sue's a Mary Sue's like category and I find that to be just like unnecessary and like come on we know that she qualifies for a lot of them. Yeah let me put it this way if he qualifies then he wins so easily because I like him so much. Well yeah he's fantastic but part of the reason why he's so good is why he also doesn't really qualify for Mary Sue as in he's dealing with a lot of issues that have nothing that can't be solved with being really strong. While Ray I mean there's nothing she comes up against that she can't solve and any flaw she has is always in reference to how amazing she is as a person. I like Harry Potter that's my favorite Mary Sue. If that one counts I'd probably go with that I guess yeah. Because he has all these blessings and stuff but his character is kind of not really about that on an internal level and I think that's an interesting dynamic to have.  He starts out as like you're the chosen one the boy who lived and that kind of thing and then the media gets a hold of him and slanders him a lot and then people start to hate him. And then I think the the thing that I like most about him is that his personal issues aren't really the issues that he goes through on the epic scale he's got and Saitama is kind of similar to this Saitama sorry he they both have personal desires and needs that aren't really part of the overall plot they're kind of tangential so like a lot of what Harry goes through is relationship issues and friendship issues that are teenage drama and like for the book. Do you like how someone in chat Saitama is not a Mary Sue he can't solve his issues with his powers like oh what I said weird for weird but follow up with saying how categorization is a problem with Mary Sue because it depends on what specifically you're talking about whether or not someone counts like I really it bothers me how much we've been through this topic over and over again and yet people in chat are like definitively immediately like yep this person is or isn't a Mary Sue it's like which parts of it are you considering you part of what about the author insert part a lot of people try to ignore that one and a lot of people argue that it's evolved past that now that we can't even consider that one because it's just like the word itself is more declarative of their immense power which isn't actually necessarily what it is it's more so that they they have power to the point where no problem in their way can be solved or can't be solved that both the good guys and bad guys will just inexplicably love this person they will be extremely skilled in in direct reference to whatever problem they have to solve even if it's completely illogical and then the author insert part would probably be pretty important and then gary stew is another selection of it's not necessarily an inverse but it's not necessarily Mary Sue but guy right there's like other elements to it so it makes it complicated well so what what's a good example of a Mary Sue then well I would say I think Ray should be the quintessential example I think it's amazing that they wrote it that way I agree and it's so obvious and all that but can you give me like just a secondary one to point me in the right direction because some people in chat are saying Harry isn't and I'm like okay well if he if the chosen one isn't enough that has all these special powers that you know can stop him from death and like all these special magical rules because I've debated a bunch of people about how Harry Potter's magical system is wish fulfillment it's not really sensical then because we don't consider Frodo a Mary Sue because he's the everything is put upon him and he doesn't really want to do it but he does it out of courage and I would want to argue like surely Sam is the one that pushes him to the end without Sam Frodo would have lost right exactly so it's not just the chosen one aspect and you have characters like and who are really good who grow even though they have a lot of power but um on like the other end of the scale because usually Mary Sue's I consider to be just bad writing I can't think of many that would fit every standard set I don't think that's the point really yeah I agree with me enough of them then you start to hit that territory um so I I don't know I another would be Korra I think that's probably pretty fair but all these characters are so unlikable yeah they're like unlikable for us but in the universe they're usually pretty well liked right right right and that's understandable but it's like the the question is what's your favorite oh my oh jeez yeah yeah goku no well this is the thing if if whatever we suggest doesn't quite qualify this question is going to lead us down to a rabbit hole forever but most damaging for its universe as well does that mean in terms of breaking rules or does that mean like literal power factor I think that would be the case because if you have a bad power crawl you kind of ruin the rule set usually you can go excessive with it like Dragon Ball Z is kind of Dragon Ball continuation but the power levels are so much higher but then once you reach too high a power level then the impact is minimized James Bond goes to Mary Sue? Having plot armor doesn't make you a Mary Sue it depends on which movies Bond but it also depends on like someone just said you guys don't get Mary Sue's it's like I don't think you realize that nobody uh in large groups completely agrees on what exactly a Mary Sue is yeah exactly that's the current issue I kind of would be interested in throwing it out at this point and instead because the whole point of Mary Sue was to be a shorthand for a set of attributes but since nobody ever seems to agree definitively on what the attributes have to be at this point it's like why don't you just tell me what the attributes are and you know what I mean like so if I go this character sucks because they're a Mary Sue instead I just go this character sucks because for some reason everybody in the world loves them I don't know why that is they're so powerful that there's like no challenge they can't overcome and they always seem to have a skill set that allows them to pass every single challenge too they are they're engaging in activities in the storyline that come across as if they're like a fan like like someone's writing it and have inserted themselves into doing all the things they would want to do which is like riding the Millennium Falcon having Luke's lightsaber uh fucking able to speak droid and wookie all of these things that are just like it doesn't really make sense for her to have that but it does make sense if you look at it from the point of view that this is someone who's like I love Star Wars I am now in the universe look at what I can do and so if someone's like oh you're just describing a Mary Sue I'd be like I don't care like at this point you just these these are these are these are problems on their own whether or not it's a Mary Sue I think that a lot of the time if you look at a Mary Sue or what like the person that is being called a Mary Sue it's usually because they have all of the components that are needed for an entire cast to be interesting so they're the lover and they're the technical guy and they you know Ray does everything she doesn't need anybody but a well-balanced story you'd think would have characters at disadvantages where they're required to team up with somebody else or required to deal with somebody else that may be in a negative uh light um you know who does a good job with this is Joss Whedon by like putting people in situations where they have to deal with others that they may not want to deal with and they have to hash it out because if a Mary Sue can just go in there and accomplish the task it's almost like they're a video game character and they're playing on easy mode and they don't understand why you on hard mode with all of the actual difficulty challenges set by the developers are having such a hard time it's like they the character can't really interact with the story in a meaningful way because it doesn't challenge them that would be how I would look at them what a Mary Sue is like or down go um someone said I can define it for you with references and I was just thinking like we did that already right and then you've got someone else saying like uh yes everybody can disagree on it but some people are just wrong and it's like sure but again this is something that people keep debating and then the southpaw's links the tv tropes page and it's like again again the tv tropes it's evolving as a term uh naturally there's a lot of terms are used and we can all agree that rey is the thing that pulled this term out into the mainstream like before rey uh people were talking about Mary Sue's a lot less um and so it's see how being like stitched to her it's kind of what I was trying to get out there and a lot of people use Mary Sue to mean yeah a character that has raised like sort of attributes yeah absolutely she's the penultimate like the apex massive of the whole thing um and the best example like you're saying but it's she's such a good example that she eclipses the entire trope for me you might as well just call it a rey yeah um but I get that there are other elements and people like so when you try and extrapolate to a different character they're like no no no it doesn't follow these traits and you're like oh well rey doesn't necessarily follow them it's like it doesn't matter like that's what I'm all right so so right here you have different traits that are explained in this trope page I'm not going to go into the details of them but there's like folders and it's it's divided into personality skills physical appearance accessories relationships etc and just to briefly sum that up a Mary Sue has all of the good parts of those and none of the bad parts of those in my book like what kind of issue would a Mary Sue have it's not like a player protagonist where uh like on the Mary Sue scale let's say it's like oblivion where you can join the fighter's guild and the mage's guild and there's no restrictions and you can role play as whatever character you want make your own spells that kind of thing and then there's the other side of it which would be in a role playing game where you are fixed into the position that you've chosen for yourself you choose for yourself so I am a mage therefore I am definitely going to be physically weaker there's no way around this kind of situation Mary Sue's don't have to deal with any kind of thought process that has to do with that because they have all of the aspects of the plot already lined up for them to tackle and we find it really lazy because as a logic problem if you introduce elements that would stop a character from being able to do something and you actually have to stop and think about it the audience is going along with your logic when you actually put it to the print so to me it's like Mary Sue ultimately can be boiled down to write her laziness and giving them no obstacles or character flaws that they have to overcome because I can't think of anything that Ray had to really overcome except for plot elements that are needed for the audience to understand where we are in the story on like a meta level like here's the ending here's the beginning here's in in story it's hard to justify who she is and people bring up stuff like oh she can swim and and she's a desert person or how does she know how to read or speak wookiee and all this stuff we were talking about that before the talk about a good part of tlj the whole like oh she's she's shocked and interested about rain and she has a moment and it's so cool to see someone who's not seen rain before react to rain like also she can swim like hang on like she practiced swimming in the sand okay and she can pilot that boat thing because she slid down on a because she fought with a stick yeah and then I saw like someone was posting how her lightsaber if you look close it has like she can choose what color blade she wants I don't know if that's canon but it looks like there is actually a button that can choose if it's green blue or yellow I don't know if that got cut but just like yeah I feel like I see it a lot because if we if we zoom back a little bit from Mary soon we just go into bad character writing I think a lot of stuff that's written into pre-existing content people go with their first idea so like I hate this Star Wars Rebels creation where there's a character that has a lightsaber that has a black core and it's called a dark saber and it's like a super ancient lightsaber and to me I'm just thinking like that sounds like something that somebody in 12 levels like 12 years old on the playground would come up with like it doesn't have thought about how it's going to change the the greater scheme of things like why didn't we see any of this before it's people people are inheriting large intellectual properties with long stories and not realizing that every element that they put into it affects every other element into it and it's really disappointing to see that there's no quality control based on that and Mary Sue's are just like when you ask the question like oh what's going to be the the most destructive Mary Sue it's going to be every single one especially Ray because it just did everything that she does changes something yeah yeah so I probably most damaging for its universe probably would go to Ray would definitely be in the running obviously it's just the it's difficult the whole reason why this has been long is like we're trying to figure out which ones even qualify and then how to assert what the damage they did to each universe they're in was um so I think I'm going to go with a safe Ray answer in order to progress yeah and also Mary Sue usually refers to a protagonist but we could say that the the Predator the super Predator from the Predator is a Mary Sue kind of just has dominance over everything right uh being really powerful is like the most limited viewpoint of what a Mary Sue is uh that seems to be the most like if you do ask a lot of people across the internet what it means they might throw that in and it's like it's not it's a little bit more specific than that and there's loads of other traits so I get that it's just that um it's something something that's usually a part of a collective and it's usually contextualized in a slightly different way but yeah hopefully that's an effective answer um oh boy here we go I cannot wait for all of Twitter to explode over arch and saga I'm joining the toxic brood make sure to check r slash sig marxism later to see them screeching live also hi rag hello uh please watch super space lair robot chicken oh they did something about that I will uh I will look into such a thing at some point hi rog's moob schler hi hello uh get chase I don't like minorities face and pester louis six out of 50 levi um olivé levo I've never known which one is correct I hear all different ones all the time onto efab police shootings it'll be a wild ride I promise my god gonna get banned I'm sure of it um I started watching youtube for arch arch led me to sargon dnd crusaders led me to rags led me to efab and mohler efab led me to jay the apex train rack of a youtuber thanks to you all yo I'm so glad that it ended with jay you went from knowing how great youtube can be and then you found out what else it can be it's a it's a good journey apparently those star destroyers are the opposite of a suction cup man suction cup man a suction cup man um suction cup man it's a uh I get a guy climbing a tower with suction cups is that suction suction cup man is the only thing I mean I didn't want to laugh at him but yeah it doesn't seem that impressive I don't know all right but good for good for good for suction cup man I suppose um I hope he suction cups by day he's a plumber and by night he goes around jumping off rooftops if you if you want more spacey content look up the channel Isaac Arthur there you go did you hear about sjw's complaining about the sonic movie they are complaining that there are homophobic slurs throughout the film I can't wait to see it oh boy I can't wait to not find any I was gonna say I'm pretty sure it's I saw uh was it LS mox tweet about it I think um it's confusing you look at it and it's like a bunch of bots I think who are all posting that all of them say the sonic movie is awful homophobic whatever else and I we should all go see bids of prey like that's what they all say and it's like okay really weird I don't know who's responsible for those best caliber music um but I seriously doubt sonic will be anything but a family friendly romp I still can't get over how episode 9 managed to one up 40k in obsidity with the zystones zystones that I don't know what that is the zystones yeah I think that's how it's spelled zystones or zystones I don't know those are not even the imperium have guns that can one-shot planets well then they need to get on palp's level don't they oh just oh yeah I guess so because all of his ships in his fleet could do that um crabs are sea spiders it's just socially acceptable to eat them after you kill them join the mobile infantry today oh jj star wars is like eight-year-old me playing with my star wars action figures but worse I was way more imaginative yeah because that's the thing if you want to compare it to a child's approach with uh how he did it in that movie it's like yeah it's not even a very interesting child it's just like there's lots of them you're like okay come on timmy work with it what else you got um although committed to genocide and they were like queen slay I mean if i