okay am I heard okay good also good so yeah I think we can start so we won't be too long because this is I think the last set of sessions so probably have plans after 6 p.m. so yeah today's talks will be about how to onboard the next generation of Drupal engineers or as Dries said today villagers now we're calling them villagers so yeah this is me that the photo is not completely new but I hope I'm you can recognize me from the picture I'm a development director at agile drop it's a development company mainly doing Drupal from Slovenia this handle is also my username on Drupal.org and also on social media and it's actually the pronunciation of my name because I know that there's a characters that are not usually in your languages so this is how you actually pronounce my name the first contact with Drupal was somewhere around 2010 and at that point I was working in an agency on a proprietary CMS and in my free time I was discovering other options and Drupal was one of them and luckily enough the owner of that agency was also discovering alternatives to the expensive proprietary CMS that we were working on and yeah hopefully I was lucky enough that we were able to start using Drupal at that point and yeah since then I'm in Drupal this is Anmir he's not here today so he's not like a co-speaker or something he's just a co-worker of mine that will be that I will use to explain a thing he joined agile drop in July this year he started working on a Drupal onboarding project that we have internally so learning Drupal learning best practices and he already made first contributions of Drupal.org this is AdmirDrupal.org profile three months one week and you can see that he has 22 fixed issues I mean he has credits on 22 fixed issues so this is what we'll be talking about yeah I could I admit he's a real talent and I really like him but yeah it if we compare the two of us as I said before I started I learned about Drupal around 2010 but I'd registered on Drupal.org in 2012 because no one told me that this is actually the place to go I actually was doing Drupal projects for almost a year but it was you know we were learning by ourselves and and even though I was already making patches for our projects which of course at that point was Drupal 7 so which meant that we were also of course a little bit well it was not it was not pretty all the time because we were hacking modules as well but yeah my first issue credit was in June 2016 well you can see the difference actually and what was actually the difference between me and Admir well my path was that I was self-taught I learned about Drupal on the internet and of course my first projects were really a low quality project if I think most of you can relate that if you could go back to your first Drupal projects that you're not very proud of but yeah we were learning from mistakes but we were learning from mistakes and those mistakes were haunting us for year or two or three or even more because yeah the projects weren't built in in the proper way at that time I also with the colleagues attended Drupal events Drupal camps mostly to get more information then it sessions like this one and after many projects we were able to apply the best practices into the projects of course while I was doing a job for a living I had to learn the best practices in my free time and of course it took me a couple of years to come to a point well Admir's path is different he joined our company he has a mentor he is able to learn Drupal from experienced developers he has time to learn during the job and he also adopts back best practices from day one because well he's not allowed to do the other way but yeah this is the difference and the result was on the previous screen he he's actually contributing to Drupal modules already so what we learned until now is yeah we we need new talent in Drupal I mean of course we people are coming and going and we need to build the next generation of Drupal engineers to maintain Drupal and all the modules in the future and yeah the problems that we have today one problem I see is a step before coming to Drupal is PHP PHP might not be the hype of today it's hard to attract new developers where where all the other nice and and and sexy things are there out there and in PHP there's many old projects with bad code base which are still kept alive we know that there's a lots of Drupal 7 sites still out there it's the end of life is just postponing and postponing and of course this is showing a bad reputation to the language itself which actually evolved a lot in the last 10 years or so but because of the old projects you know the newcomers the juniors see a 10 year old and usually those are the guys who get the old projects because of course the seniors are working on new projects and then of course they don't like it and PHP is also loses the reputation and of course I think the Smith is as old as PHP is that PHP is that of course we all know that that's not true at least hopefully here all of you know PHP and know that it's well the changes in PHP 8 and and actually with every new version are really great and it's still running lots and lots of internet so it's not just going away because it can't yeah also the salaries I think we have to touch this point are lower compared to the niche languages which rust go and others but why is that I think because on average the problems the code solves there is of higher value we have to admit that you know learning curve is steeper which means that the less experienced talent is available which means of course that salaries go up but of course you have to but a 22 year old developer doesn't know that he just read the blog post that rust and go have higher salaries he doesn't know that he would probably need five or ten years of experience to be able to work on a project in those languages we are the one we have to tell them that maybe start slow and also those languages are usually used in startups products and stuff like that which we have to be honest compared to agencies have usually a bigger value per developer and also Drupal has some problems I started with Drupal 7 you know what we did was not the most beautiful thing but it was easy Drupal 8 plus we have to be honest requires more knowledge it's if not it's if for nothing else it's object oriented the programming standards are higher the folder structures because in Drupal 7 you just created the dot module file and just let's go put everything in there and you were just writing writing writing until you know and of course there's composer and everything else so I think that the entry to the technology is harder as it was in Drupal 7 and I also believe that it's not that suitable for hobby projects anymore I think Drupal 7 you know you were able to download it put on a server FTP and you were able to do something well of course now if you want to follow best practices you can't work like that because you know you have configuration you have everything else that it has to be done in a proper way and of course comparing to 10 plus years ago there's also lots of other solutions including even frameworks so not even if it's and if if a company or a client is in a need of a CMS at the end of the day you can also use Lara so what is the solution well this by accident I mean by accident by coincidence this is a little bit connected to what Dries was talking before but agencies have to work on promoting Drupal you know we have to teach people how to use it and it's not enough to just post the job ad and say well there's no Drupal engineers out there of course it's not there's no rust engineers out there there's no go engineers out there there's no engineers out there you have to learn them you have to take them on board and take some time and learn them what what you have to do is find people who are still exploring you know lots of times I hear people from on universities you know they learn them usually at least in our country universities learn you know computer engineers a small portions of different you know areas and languages and they have to decide where to go well this is this is the place where we have to find them and see if there is a prospect of course tell them what we're doing and yeah tell them in a way that they will like it impress them so yeah there will be three steps that we are actually doing an agile drop and that I want to share with you as well and of course hopefully you'll be able to get some results out of it so first find people that can become great developers to be honest and I will be honest we are mainly looking for talent and junior mid developers fast learners I said before you know the the seniors are looking for other options there are other opportunities of course there are and and also if you want to learn a framework or a CMS like Drupal it's good to start with someone who doesn't have much backstories you know who has started with fresh then what all companies can do in their local environment is of course organize workshops organize local meetups PHP meetup open source meetup so it's not necessary to go to and say we will organize a Drupal meetup it's it's a big chance that you won't get as much people as you would like but go wider organize a PHP meetup or even open source meetup this open source word I think it's it's it's quite attractive and if you you know start or start open source workshops or something like that so this is something that to attract young developers and then of course during those sessions you you sneak the Drupal in yeah and below be active in local universities and other educational institutions because that's where you will find the talent our companies is I mean we try to do our best of course other technologies are also there you know pressing on universities to learn especially some I mean some technologies with more traditional with with with more money but yeah every agency can do this locally and again we are not into looking for rockstars to be on it we're looking for newcomers we want to find the talent and we want to learn them step two now you have expertise in your company already now it's time to inject the skills directly into their veins agile drop has a Drupal onboarding project it's well it depends how much time it takes but usually takes at least a month to maybe even more which is a dummy Drupal project where they start with side building custom modules and during the custom modules they learn how to build custom entity how to build custom block as the controller everything else everything else so and yeah you have to mentor them so you have to make sure that one of your senior guys or someone who has been with Drupal quite for some time can spend a couple of hours per week probably and you know just review the work they did and be available for possible questions then of course when they go on the first project have to help them also maybe teach some soft skills so they become more independent because you know young developers are usually quite shy and afraid because and also scared of doing something wrong so we have to build a culture where mistakes happen of course we try to avoid repeating that mistakes but yeah and then build or take over maintenance of an existing module and Drupal.org this is what we did with Admir you know we are maintaining a couple of modules there are a couple of there are lots of modules out there who are not maintained or have 10, 20, 30 reviewed and tested by the community issues but nobody merges them in so find those modules contact the maintainers and maybe take over the maintenance of some module you know this is the way that you can also learn them and step three which is important this is not a one-time job you have to do this all the time because if you just go and say okay we'll organize Drupal workshops and out of 50 people will probably find five and then we'll hire them and then those five will work for the next couple of years doesn't go like that so you probably have to organize a couple of workshops to find one or two but yeah workshops meet up sessions in universities they must be constant you have to be constantly present on those for those events as I said before block the time of your seniors to review the work and help if you know that you have a couple of juniors in your team you have to make you have to find a way to block some time of your seniors and you know give them an opportunity to review the work build a culture where everyone is encouraged to help I think the whole Drupal community is built in this way so we don't have so many problems here because the story is somewhere else are you know they're not even helping the juniors because they're afraid that they will take over their job in the future and stuff like that I mean this is totally wrong and yeah in the company try to build a culture where everyone is encouraged to help and also find a way to praise and reward those who help a lot so if you see a guy who's actually working all the time on the project but you can see that he's spending you know his time going around desks and helping other people you know we have to find a way to praise and reward them whatever that way is I'm not going into details but yeah fine and of course mentor new mentors this is really important because mentor being a mentor is not you know not easy and it's not natural to be just everyone can be mentor it's not that easy so mentor new mentors means that if you are in a situation currently I don't know if you are a senior developer maybe already taking care of couple of junior developers mentoring them find some meat to senior developers who will be able to you know do the same thing in the future and maybe ask them over help them what you're doing and they will hear you they will see what you're doing they will they will be able to learn about the things you do and the result I mean at least in our company over the last seven years we hired hundred plus developers and at our peak we had six people doing the onboarding project at the same time so it was really an internal Drupal workshop during their job time you know that they came to our company in the span of month month and a half so yeah some of them were already a little in front but what happened was that those who were there for a month helped the new ones on the first desk you know because they already made them they and they were proud and they were happy that they were able to help so this is how you how you try to build we started Drupal workshops in 2017 and we had 22 Drupal workshops already in our country so this is what six six years now and from the first we have an employee who joined a girl who joined the first Drupal workshop in 2017 and is still an employee today actually we we I think usually it's about 10 to 15 people we just gathered them usually it's one day or two Saturdays or something like that so we really do from 8 4 or 9 a.m. to 3 4 p.m. and we just go over the Drupal basics and then we see a talent we see that someone is really you know interested and they understand things and yeah this is how we actually got her and she still and of course after her there were a couple of them as well PHP masterclass again a workshop that we organized was a little wider but then you know we go to Drupal and then we are also organizing meetups in our office Drupal symphony as well and PHP and other events job fair is an event in our University once per year somewhere in spring where the the final years students are able you know to meet with the companies so yeah that's it this is the slide so yeah this is actually the slide that was like not I will not say mandatory but it was suggested to edit at the end of the your presentation but really those of you who are developers it's really connected to this session because yeah if you haven't contributed yet these are the these are the opportunities because I know that at the beginning it's always hard and you always feel that you don't know enough and you always feel that all those guys are too smart for me which in reality is usually not the case because quite quick you can solve an issue or two so yeah this is also slide for feedback in the mobile app you can put the feedback and this is a thank you from my side and if you have any questions look there's been two questions both asking the same basically is your dummy onboarding project available anywhere or open source no not but I mean we could do this yeah I mean it's at the beginning it was a little we were a little bit you know it was a little of our secret but it's it's it's not a big deal it's it's just dummy project with with the tasks I mean it's it's trying to simulate the real-life project trying to simulate but of course going through all the through all the aspects of Drupal but yeah maybe I mean at the moment it's not but I think we can think about and then put put something out okay and thank you again


Deloitte are you okay? Yeah, I think I think it was my arm. Is it bad? Is it bad? I don't want to look scale of 1 to 10 How bad is it? Oh, I'd say it's about a seven point arm ripped off The Lego Ninjago movie my name is Brennan Keith Avery and this is just my opinion Hey, what's going on guys welcome back Thank you very much for tuning in for my opinion slash review for the Lego Ninjago Movie now this movie comes out Later this week on Friday This is the third Lego movie that's come out in recent years in 2014 We have Phil Lord and Chris Miller that gave us the Lego movie which I do on right here on Blu-ray I love this movie to death when I first saw the trailers for this movie my Expectations were high and when I went to go see the movie. I loved it It make my expectations even though my expectations were high I was still surprised on how good and clever the movie was and also how it tailored to adults more than they tell it to children And so, you know, I really did enjoy it if you haven't seen the Lego movie I really suggest you see it and also guys before I continue do me a favor Go ahead and subscribe to this channel become one of my subscribers Also click the bell so you can be notified when I do make uploads Help me reach my first milestone of 1000 subscribers and let's see if we can get this video to 100 likes now the next movie. I want to talk about is the Lego Batman movie that came out earlier this year I think in like January or February and Even though I did really enjoy the Lego movie My expectations for the Lego Batman movie were quite low, which doesn't make sense I like the Lego movie and I love Batman. He's like one of my favorite characters comic book characters Besides Spider-Man and Marvel so you would think I would be excited for it But I wasn't excited for that movie. I saw it and I was blown away I love the Lego Batman movie. It was funny. It was probably just as good or just as funny as the Lego movie It had a lot of adult jokes and you know, I had a good time. I was surprised. I don't own a copy of that I need to add it to my collection But you know the Lego movie and the Lego Batman movie there two for two But now we have the Lego Ninjago movie Are we gonna be three for three and just like the Lego Batman movie when I saw the trailers for this I just was not excited. I Just is not care and which is weird because I like the Lego movie I like the Lego Batman movie and I love ninjas. So why would I not be excited for this movie? You know, I don't know but you know, I just wasn't excited going in but I just got back from seeing it The movie is being directed by was Charlie being Paul Fisher and Bob Logan I've never heard of those gentlemen before I looked them up before I hit record on IMDB calm And I have it right here as well and they've never done anything before that. This is the their directorial debut For all three of them. They've have delved in the land of animation before with other properties Some more prominent than the others But this is like the first real feature film other than a few like TV shows and series and short films This is the first thing they've ever done And in my opinion It shows and what the Lego Ninjago movie is about is there's a Lego man by the name of Lloyd and he has a father by the name of Gargadon or something like that I think that's what his name is and There are father-son relationship Gargadon. He wants to rule the world and Alloy the green ninja He wants to stop him and he has five other ninja friends and Jackie Chan master Who is their master and they have to come together and believe in themselves to you know fight the bad guys save the day blah blah blah Pretty much the same that we got before in the Lego movie not the Lego Batman movie but the Lego movie and I don't want to say that I was disappointed in this movie because I wasn't because of my expectation below But I was not impressed as well This movie the Lego Ninjago movie is a huge step down from what came before with the Lego movie and the Lego Batman movie What made those two movies great the Lego movie and the Lego Batman movie is like I said before It tailored to adults just as much as it tailored to children if not more to adults than children You know this movie the the Ninjago movie it did have jokes.  I thought it was only hour and a half No, it's nothing like that but The jokes are just you know, there aren't many adult jokes. This is for children It's tailored for them and you know, I mean is it painstaking? You know, no, it's not but you know, it just wasn't for me Something else that I noticed about the film that I just didn't appreciate is the animation The quality in the animation has dropped tremendously as well While in the previous two films where everything was flowing so Seamless throughout the movie and showing so many graphics of legos jumping here and there and building this and building that with action and Lego Lasers and you also had like the water that they used in the Lego movie That would that look Lego too and it just would look real cool I didn't feel any of those same effects with the Lego Ninjago movie at times when they're going through scenes not even high action The animation was crap. I mean it was real choppy at times And you know, I was just really frustrated about that because it just wasn't flowing smoothly Now there is something that I do appreciate towards the beginning of the film And that's how I started out because there was a brief scene of live action That's that we started with at the very beginning of the movie and I do like that touch Um, you know, it had a really nice personal feel to it And you were somewhat able to untax yourself to the characters Initially, but uh soon after the film got going you did lose that character interaction that character That connection that you had with the characters and like all these ninjas like I don't know any of them All I'll do all I know is Lloyd And that's probably the point of the film. They probably didn't want you to get to know all the other ninjas, but I don't remember the names All I remember is lord is the green ninja We have a robotic ninja a water ninja a lightning ninja or earth ninja and a fire ninja and um You know the action it just wasn't that great. Um, it was kind of uh Underwhelming to be honest with you because they are ninjas. I don't understand where the ninjas got all their Their devices are flying resorts around the city trying to save the city You have one ninja that is a ninja, but he can't throw or he can't catch That doesn't make sense to me.  This is a lego movie.   I'll let you go if you never come back and it's like no eliminate them So they were not killing the innocent people and destroying buildings and civilizations and things like that But the whole movie isn't bad. I mean, I did laugh from time to time But it still was just not remotely Not remotely close to being as funny as the lego movie and the lego Batman movie, but it was somewhat funny. The effects were bad. The action was just not there It was made for children I didn't care about the characters. I thought the plot was You know just too silly for me just to take seriously and uh, you know Even with my expectations low You know, I just did not have a good time And you know, if this let if the lego ninjago movie would have came out first before the lego movie The lego batman movie I would probably give him a much higher rating But I can't do that now because uh the lego movie that set the bar And this one did not come remotely close to reaching it If I had to rate the lego ninjago movie out of a 1 out of 10, I would give it a 5 out of 10 Yes, a 5 out of 10, but guys, that's just my opinion. What did you think about the lego ninjago movie? Have you seen it? Do you want to see it? Have I turned you on? Have I turned you off? Do you agree with me or do you disagree with me? Let me know in the comment section below Let's get this conversation going and keep it flowing and guys. I'm serious. This is just my opinion I mean if you're really excited for this movie is this if this is your most anticipated movie of the year Hey, go see it. You may love it just because I didn't like it Doesn't mean that you will not like it because all things are subjective or our films are subjective Subjective, excuse me. 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Uh-huh What'd you stop the car for I gotta lift up the door. We ain't out of the garage yet Yes, these quonset huts are so long Now Rochester go straight down Rexford and turn right on no no turn left on Wilshire Boulevard I don't want to pass Pico and Sepulveda You know Rochester Paul is my favorite season When the leaves start turning golden brown and the fragrant breeze wash them gently to mother earth And at the close of each day as the sun sinks beyond the horizon It seems like some elfin painter is gilded the sky and left of glowing with a hundred brilliant Ah Not to halt their breathless pace and admire the beauties of nature Rochester What are you stopping for now? I got to open the gateway and out of the driveway I better hurry Rochester. I'm supposed to meet. What are you looking at? There's smoke coming out of the exhaust pipe Huh, let me see. Oh, that's just a little smoke a little if we could get this thing off the ground We could do sky riding Oh, it's all right. Come on. Let's get going. You know, I'm supposed to meet Phil Harris at the golf club at 10 30 Oh boy, I can hardly wait till I get out on that course The way I've been playing lately.  I merely wanted to give her a lift You know never hurts to be kindly and lend a helping hand to those less fortunate who haven't got a car Someday the tables may be turned and I'm going down. Wilshire mister get lost I wonder why that girl wouldn't That could understand it if I wasn't good-looking or something. Maybe it's the car boss. Why don't you trade in for a newer model? What for this car always takes us where we want to go? I know but look how much older we are when we get there What's the difference? That's the trouble Rochester. Everybody's in a hurry Everybody's rushing through life They don't stop to enjoy the beauties of nature Like now it's fall the leaves are turning golden brown And the fragrant breeze washed them gently to my heart And in the clothes of these days the sun sinks beyond the horizon It seems like some elven container has gilded the sky and left it glowing with a hunt Boss, boss stop you're upsetting the motor I guess you're right And Rochester drive more in the middle of the street the falling leaves are dending the fenders Maybe I will trade this in oh Rochester Rochester pull over to the curb again. It's the same girl boss. We passed her again Don't mean her the one on the corner going down Wilshire, honey. Yeah, thanks, mr. Benny. What? Dennis what's the idea of wearing a green dress? Oh, I'm not wearing a green dress. I'm standing behind a mailbox You better wear your glasses boss last week you almost picked up the sunset bus I thought she was winking at me, but it was the taillight Hop in Dennis. Okay. Thanks Dennis would you like to come along with me? I'm gonna play I'm going to Hillcrest to play golf with Phil Well, that's where I was going and Phil Harris promised a caddy for me again Phil Harris caddies for you Yeah, and he makes it so easy for me to play the game All I have to do is carry the bag tee up the ball and Phil hits it for me Dennis if he doesn't start hitting them better. I'm gonna get a new caddy Dennis Dennis boy Look at me Huh, let me explain something to you When you carried the bag Phil wasn't cadding for you You were cadding for him. I was certainly gee how I ever got two shows. I'll never know It's amazing Rochester turn on the radio. We ain't got no radio then sing something will you Dennis? I can't stand any more of that talk. Okay To the deer up there singing I'll meet you on the first tee. I'm having lunch with miss Livingston. See you later Dennis Da-da-da-dum-bum beat him. Hello, mr. Benny. Hello Yes, Molly and me and fever McGee We're happy with our new hooper A turn to the right and Harris is tight Yeah wonder where I wonder where Mary's sitting. Hello jack Oh, hello, Mary. I thought you were going to be alone. What? Who are your friends? Those are my golf clubs put on your glasses Oh, I wondered what they were all doing on one chair The nibblig the nibblig looks like a blast mogul Mary Mary, do you order something to eat?  He's too good for you. What are you talking about? You know what I'm talking about. Look how George Burns beat you yesterday Well, and the day before that you took a trimming from Cagney. All right Cagney, so I was off my game What about last week when I played O'Brien?   Gee, they're great golfers They hit the ball almost every time they swing at it And Mary, look, look, there's Norman Crasna over there. Norman Crasna. Yeah, he's the fellow that loved that joke I told last year. You know the one about like a moose needs a hat rack Oh, he was crazy about it. He was. Yeah, watch this. Hey Norman, like a moose needs a hat rack You see every every time I mentioned it. He goes crazy. I never saw a big wagon Hey, hey, there's Don Wilson sitting at the next table there right over there. Oh waiter Waiter, will you take my order, please? Yes, sir Uh, what do you have, Mr. Wilson? Uh, let's see. I'll start out with a bowl of oxtail soup and a combination salad Oh, a nice thick sirloin steak and nice potatoes Some string beans and carrots and the side order spinach a little cauliflower and uh, some hot rolls and coffee Yes, sir. Any dessert? I don't know. What kind of pie have you got? Apple blueberry peach custard raisin and pineapple. Good. I'll have them Sir, did you hear that, Mary? How can Don digest all that food? Well, don't you remember jack last summer he was operated on? Yeah, what do they take out? Nothing. They put in a deep freeze Hey, that's pretty good. Mary deep freeze. Hey, Norman, did you hear that?  There's George Fazio He's the pro out here at hillcrest remember last year. He won the canadian open. Oh, yeah And Mary I've been taking lessons from him and what he's done for my golf game is simply wonderful Oh George George come here a minute. Will you hi at George? Hello jack George George.  That's quite all right. George was money well spent You know, I'm going to play phil today phil harris. Yes Well, do you think you can keep him interested in the game? What do you mean? The last time I played with him. I had to paint the ball green and put a pimento in it I bet he didn't have the heart to hit it. Yeah Anyway, I'm going to meet him in the locker room. Oh boy. I can't wait to get a lot of that course Do you remember all the things I've taught you jack? Oh, sure. Sure George. Well, let's find out Your stance feet apart your grip interlocking your age 38 I got to run along now so long George so long jack Mary Mary I'm going into the locker room and get dressed if you want to watch us play I'll see you on the first team. Okay. Hey. Oh jack. Where are you going? I'm going to locker room to meet phil. Oh now Wait a minute jack. I have something here that I want you to hear come on over to the jukebox What there's a brand new number the sportsman's quartet recorded and it's all about a pack of lucky strike cigarettes done My quartet recorded a song about a pack of lucky strikes. Yes Well, I got to hear that wait. I get a nickel That's funny. I can't seem to find a nickel in your pocket Oh Well, here's one of mine That song is about a pack of lucky strikes. Yeah, where'd you hear it about a pack of luck? How can they? Pack all my hawks since I smoked your finder backer It's your red bulls. I lost Never mind. I'll hear it late A song that was hey, Sydney, Sydney, where's phil? Well, you'll probably be here in a minute Well, we're gonna get into my golf clothes and get these clothes off A pretty girl is like a melody Hey Jackson stop parading on that bench. This ain't no runway Oh, hello phil. I'll be ready to play in a minute. Uh, hammy my robe. Will you which one is yours? The red one with the royal crown cola on it Say phil how about a little bet on the game 10 dollars, you know just to make it interesting 10 bucks, okay But you know, I haven't played for three months. I won't be able to hit the ball. What's the difference phil. It's only 15 dollars Come on Look jackson. I'm tired. I didn't sleep good last night. You know, that floor is awful hard Phil Well, you slept on the floor Last night. Yeah, it's the first time I ever missed the bed You know them single beds ain't easy to hit Or if they're standing still Now come on, let's go play and phil it's not my fault you haven't played golf in three months So that you didn't sleep well. Remember our bet 20 dollars. What? Hey, hello, Dennis.  You look like jackie kogan and the kid All right. All right. Now come on. Let's play you shoot first phil. Okay. Here's your driver phil Thanks, kid. Now stand back everybody For 200 yards at the most Can't understand it after the awful life. He's led Well, it's my turn now rochester tea up my ball. Yes A little higher higher. It looks like a lollipop now I guess it's all right. Well, here it goes quiet everybody For I fanned it. That's one stroke. Don't count out loud I must have been standing too far away There that's better For another fan. I guess I'm holding the club too tight Well, I'll get it this time For I fanned it again. It ought to be cool now boss hit it And I hit it with all these interruptions everybody yelling and screaming at me I hear it goes for for what are you foreign about? There's some people standing down there on the green Well, you won't be there till Thanksgiving Well, watch this For well, I'll take a four on this hole on everybody. Let's go. Remember our bet phil five dollars five dollars. You said 30 I said 15 you cheat Darn those birds. I wish they'd stopped singing They're throwing me off my game. Maybe they don't know you're playing for money You can pipe down too For playing country club anyway with birds all around and trees and grass. It's awful. No peace still Hey, what hole are we on? We just finished the seven. How do we stand Mary? Uh, there's just one point between you good good phil has 28 and you have 128 There are two more holes. I've still got a chance I don't like this club. I'm using Hammy my spoon Rochester.   It's not for money. Wait a minute. Keep quiet.  What's the matter with me? What did I do that was wrong Mary? You never should have left walk Keegan I mean, what's wrong with my game? Rochester, you've seen me play better than this.  What am I doing? That's wrong. Are you right-handed? Yes, are you using right-handed clubs? Yes, well that ain't it It's when I want your advice. I'll ask for it. Hey jack, here come mr. Fazio your golf teacher. Oh, yeah Well jack, how's your game going? I want my money back. That's how it's going Fine teacher. Oh, come on jack hit the ball. It'll be dark pretty soon. Okay. Okay for Where did it go? Where did it go? Where's the ball go? There it is by your left foot Congratulations. It was by your right foot when you started It We don't have to get cute about it pardon me boys. Do you mind if I go through? Well, I know no lady go right ahead. Gee. She's pretty old to be playing golf, isn't she? She sure is. How old are you lady? 83 Well, well, all right ahead. Let's see you hit the ball. Hey get easy now Four I'll be done. Ify, I'm on the green. Thanks boys. You're welcome 83 years old and look at her hit that ball. She isn't a day over 70 Well, I'm too upset. Let's finish the game tomorrow. We're facing it right now. Now go ahead and shoot. Okay Now quiet everybody while I make this shot Poor get that ball go. Yeah, right in the woods.  Let's look for oh jack. You'll never find us. I'll find it. Don't worry. I'll join you on the fairway See you in a minute Gosh, it's dark That ball must be around here someplace I wish I had a flashlight. Why don't we go home? Get a good night's sleep and continue the hunt in the morning We're gonna find that ball tonight. That's what you said last night Last night. Have we been here two nights and three days? Well, what's the difference Rochester, it's fall the leaves are turning golden brown The fragrant breeze wafts them gently to mother's earth and at the close of each day Is the sun sinks beyond the horizon It seems like some elfin painter has gilded the sky And left it going with a hundred Second just a moment, but first when you buy keep your eye on the red bull's eye Keep your eye on the red bull's eye Keep your eye on lucky strike ls mft lucky strike means fine tobacco and fine tobacco is what counts in a cigarette Hey Lucky strike presents the man who knows mr. James walker independent tobacco buyer of Durham, North Carolina has bought tobacco at more than 3000 auctions recently he said season after season I've seen the makers of lucky strike by a smooth fragrant fine tobacco that makes a real fine smoke So it's only common sense for me to pick luckies for my own cigarette Smoked them for 17 years a lucky strike smoker for 17 years That says it. So when you buy keep your eye on the red bull's eye Keep your eye on lucky strike and remember ls mft lucky strike means fine tobacco So smoke that smoker fine tobacco lucky strike So round so firm so fully packed so free and easy on the draw. Yes when you buy keep your eye on the red bull's eye Keep your eye on lucky strike Well, I can see better now that the sun's coming up The ball landed right here on this side of the bush. Was it on the other side of the bush? No, I guess it was right here. Hey boys. How would you like your eggs? Scramble saw. Okay. I was lucky. I found that business Yeah, how would you like your bacon? Bacon, where'd you get that? I brought it with me. This happens every time Oh, yes. Now, let's see if the ball hit this tree it would have landed over by the bunker This is mbc the national broadcast


Good morning, everyone. Welcome to the 13th meeting of the Net Zero Energy and Transport Committee. Before we begin, a reminder that social distancing measures are in place across Holyrood, please take care to observe these measures. We have apologies from Natalie Dawn. Collette Stevenson is in attendance as committee substitute. At agenda item 1, we have consideration of whether to take agenda items 4 and 5 in private. Item 4 is consideration of the evidence heard on the single-use plastic subordinate legislation. Item 5 is consideration of the committee's work programme. Are we agreed? That is agreed. Items 4 and 5 will be taken in private. Our first substantive item today is an evidence session on the environmental protection single-use plastics products, Scotland regulations 2021. These regulations are subject to the negative procedure. That means that they will come into law unless the Parliament agrees to annul them. Last week, the committee took evidence from the Scottish Government on the subordinate legislation, and afterwards we agreed that we would take evidence from stakeholders. We appreciate that these invitations went out at short notice, so we are very grateful for our two guests joining the committee this morning. I welcome to our panel Jim Fox, Associate Director of Public Affairs, Food and Drink Federation Scotland, who is attending in person, and Ian Gilland, Chief Executive, Zero Waste Scotland, who is joining us remotely. Thank you both for joining the committee this morning. I also put on record that we have also written to the Law Society of Scotland, seeking their views on the regulations, and we have received short submissions from the Federation of Small Business, David Lonsdale of the Scottish Retail Consortium and Inclusion Scotland. Thank you both to our panel members for joining this morning. Before we begin questions, let me just check if either of you would like to make a short opening statement to the committee, or should we just move straight to questions? I'm happy to go to questions. Great. Thank you once again. Let me start with the first question. What do you see as the real-life business impact of those regulations in Scotland? Do you think that the impacts have been fully and satisfactorily investigated by the Scottish Government in developing those regulations? Jim, I'll put that question to you first. In short, yes, I don't think that there will be very much impact at all for Scottish businesses. This has been trialled for a long time. I think that most businesses that pay attention to these matters will already be well on their way to ridden themselves from any of the items that you are regulating. I don't see a problem, and I've checked with several businesses before coming here today, and they've anticipated this for quite a long time. It's already enforced in England, it's already enforced in Europe. We don't see a problem. Thanks very much, Jim. Ian, same question to you. Thank you, and good morning. I think that I will echo what Jim is saying. I think that we are already seeing a shift in businesses around moving away from the products that are under consideration. Obviously, at Zero Way Scotland, we did support the Government through the development of these restrictions. We were heavily involved in helping them with the consultation, particularly on the stakeholder engagement. We also supported the development of the business impact assessment, which demonstrated that. I think that the figures that I'm sure colleagues have said that. 95 per cent of the plastic products are imported into the UK, so there are very limited impacts on the value chain here in Scotland. When we look at polystyrene and EPS, although there is more of that developed in the UK, we've already spent quite a bit of time investigating what was happening in Scotland. We really couldn't find any companies in Scotland who were going to be impacted on it. Those who were producing EPS were doing it at a much greater scale, not the products that have been mentioned more about insulation. Even talking to the key stakeholders involved in EPS was a recognition that people were moving away from these products quite quickly. Thank you both for those responses. Let me bring in the deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop. Thank you. This is obviously just a key stage in looking at the regulations. Part of that will be the guidance that the Scottish Government will provide. Just from your different perspectives, do you think that the sufficient guidance on the implementation from the Scottish Government in relation to the regulations? Or is there anything additional guidance that you think would be helpful to see the successful implementation of these regulations? I think that we're broadly supportive of the approach. I think that we welcome the change in the plastic straws, the disability issue there, and that was the last remaining hurdle, I think, for industry. Thank you. Obviously, we're supporting the Government with the guidance, and we'll continue to do so. Obviously, in the run-up to the implementation in June, it's the guidance that will evolve. We will continue to work directly, communicate directly and engage with stakeholders right across the value chain to ensure that the guidance is reflecting on any considerations that they have. Absolutely, the stuff around exemptions, straws and so on needs to be articulated quite clearly in terms of hospitality industry, particularly in some of the other aspects, but we're engaged. Obviously, we'll continue to engage with all of those people. From other work that we've done, we need to be proactive in making sure that every part of the hospitality industry, every part of the supply chain that all purchasers understand what's happening, so we'll continue to do that on an on-going basis. We might not just be guidance, but it's awareness as well. I know that it's been a long time coming, but do you think that there's sufficient awareness? Obviously, big companies will certainly be very cognisant of it, but there's some smaller outlets or smaller organisations that may need to be alerted to that. Any sense of that? I think that everyone knows what's happening, or is there more communication required about this? I've not taken any soundings from very small businesses, but certainly medium businesses and large businesses. The large businesses have been aware of European regulation for a long time and are exposed to the trade associations' briefings on that. Medium businesses fall into two camps, those that are aspiring to be trade association members, and they will be well informed, and others who may not be keeping up with this. I'm not really aware of anybody at that level, so I really couldn't speak about how well they would be informed. Our colleague from Zero West Scotland. As we always say, we shouldn't get complacent, but awareness levels are very high. Obviously, we've been talking about plastics in general for a number of years now, and consumer pressure has led to a lot more awareness in front of the house, but within the supply chain, as I've said, is evolving already. Awareness is high, but as we get nearer to the implementation date, we need to be more proactively engaging, not just with individual businesses, but with our trade associations and other supply chains. It's something that we will continue to do. If the regulations come in, a business or a person who manufactures or supplies certain plastics commits a criminal offence with a fine of up to £5,000. The law society suggests that pushing that to a criminal law sanction might not be justified or proportionate and might not be the best way to ensure compliance. It suggests that civil sanctions, which have been used in other similar legislation, might be better. Do either of you or other relevant members take a view on the use of a criminal sanction in those regulations? Ian, first of all. To be fair, that's very much what my area of expertise is. We do not have a view on that. We would obviously take guidance from both Government lawyers and others. We are not part of the regulatory regime or the implementation of the scheme. I am going to say the same thing. Thank you, Gents. I thought that there was certainly a risk that you might say that. You might give a similar response to my follow-up question. The investigation and enforcement of this and this criminal sanction will be done by local authorities. Again, you may not know this, but is there any way of knowing whether local authorities feel sufficiently resourced and indeed able to do full investigation and enforcement? Again, I am not aware of any specific resource requirements or capacity. Again, as part of this, we will be communicating with local authorities and talking to COSLA about the guidance that is available to them to carry out any duties that they will have going forward. I am not aware of them flagging up any issues at this moment. I will answer a short piece of that. I think that we are generally concerned about the abilities of the authorities to regulate or to administer the regulations as they come. Not particularly these, but there are several now that are coming to the fore on environment. DRS is just one of them. In general, we are very concerned that the authorities that should be trying to protect our interests will not be able to, with the best will in the world, they do not have the resources for that. We have asked several times during the conversations, during the evidence sessions on DRS, and we were never given a real example of what is going on. We were still left with concerns. We have a DRS system that will cost us many tens of millions of pounds, and if fraud kicks in, that will be multiples of that. There is a big gap between England and Scotland in terms of the implementation of that. We do not see any real issues by the authorities to be able to control movements of goods between England and Scotland. They are already hard pressed to control things like tobacco and drugs and even people at this stage, so trying to control things like single-use plastics might be a step too far. I am very grateful. Thank you very much. Liam, just to follow up on that point, because it is a slightly wider point about resource at local government level. What personnel additional resource do you think is required at local government level to monitor this properly? Convener, I think that there is a problem. I have no reason to volunteer on what I think should be done about it. I am not an expert in that area. I just know that we are concerned that we will be exposed to fraud. No understood. Let me bring in Jackie Dunbar. Thank you, convener, and good morning. Can I just touch a bit further on what you were saying just now? You were speaking about the implementation of the DRS. Do you expand a bit more in regards to the oxy degradable plastics and the wet wipes? What do you think the priorities for those should be? I think that game might be more qualified, but I will talk about the oxy degradable. We are very concerned about having controls on the type of plastic that goes into any recycling project. If we get it wrong, then the impact on the rest of the plastics in that chain will be negative. If you mix different types of plastics together, and one of them is less than the other, then you come out with the lowest common denominator. Iain, would you like to add anything? Obviously, the oxy degradable is not included at this moment. It is a complex area. The Scottish Government is seeking further information on that. We need to remind ourselves that this is not the throw of the culture or reducing demand. We need to think seriously about what we can do to bring future restrictions in place for those things. If we are going to be consistent with our approach. The other thing that you asked me about was the... It was round about the oxy degradable plastics in the wet wipes. Wet wipes? As you will know, during the public consultation, 94 per cent of respondents thought that action should be taken on wet wipes, although they were not part of the original list. You heard last week from the minister that the Scottish Government is working certainly in liaison with the UK Government on what action could be taken on them to bring that forward. Considerations on what more could be done to reduce the impact of wet wipes. I have another question. Will I ask it just now? What do you think the economic and social opportunities are around the shift away from single-use items? How can Scottish businesses and communities capitalise on those opportunities? Do you think that there is any extra support needed? That is maybe a wish question. I cannot answer that. I am not an expert in that area. I mean, if you are talking about single-use plastics particularly, I mean, I can talk more widely about DRS, but not about single-use plastics in terms of economic impact. Ian? So, yes, I mean, as part of the wider circular economy, we have obviously provided evidence in the past around the economic impacts of that in terms of jobs and business opportunities, particularly around reuse and refurbishment of goods, et cetera. But, certainly in reuse, we are seeing a lot more growth at a local level of packaging-free shops, for instance, zero-use shops popping up all over. Obviously, we have supported, through grants, a number of those initiatives across the rural parts of Scotland, particularly in the islands, to accelerate that opportunity not just for dedicated zero-use shops, but other shops to have that type of facility. Obviously, there is increasing demand by consumers. That meeting increased demand from consumers as well. Absolutely. I think that the shift away from the throw-away culture towards more circular is going to create much more economic opportunity and internal investment and social benefits as well. Okay, thank you. Thanks very much, Jackie. Collect Stevenson, please. Yeah, good morning, and thanks very much for coming along. I know Jim yourself having visited the site in East Kilbride as part of my constituency in Coca-Cola's European Pacific. You did have your challenges in terms of finding a straw and attaching that on in terms of some of the products that you use to produce a East Kilbride plan. What I was wanting to ask both of you was, in terms of the regulations that are going forward, do you see how does it create any challenges around procurement, whether that be from the public sector or other businesses? Maybe, Jim, you could drop on that in terms of what you have managed to do to solve that problem there. I'm taking back in particular your reference to straws. We have straws, we use straws, and there is a particular product called Capricorn where there's a straw on the park, you may have seen it. And we are probably our second or even third iteration of trying to get a paper version that works for that straw. We know McDonald's have gone through the same problem. So paper doesn't work as well as plastic, but of course we all recognise that's the direction we've got to go. So we're just about there. We think we've got a solution that works now, but we've had our problems in getting there, but that's pretty much behind us. As for most other people, if you look at some of the other companies involved in this, they've had to change the way they think, but I've not heard anyone at all saying how this would be the wrong direction to go. It's really been about how we do it as opposed to why we're doing it. OK, Ian, do you want to come in on that? Yeah, certainly. I mean, I think all of, you know, with the lead-in to these regulations and the discussions that have been on-going, I guess, around plastics does lead to innovation. And, you know, I think there are opportunities, as Jim said, we are aware that, not just in the UK, but across Europe there's a number of companies now bringing forward products, particularly to meet that challenge around straws, to move away from plastics most substantially. So I think that's to be encouraged and that's what happens, I guess, when you bring in legislation that the market innovates. I think in terms of public procurement or absolutely, you know, there's always an opportunity, you know, ahead of the regulations, and I know I've been working with a number of public sector agencies over the last couple of years around reducing the impact of plastics within their, you know, states. You know, they've already been making changes. So, you know, putting the run up to the legislation there's no need to wait till the summer. I think there'll be an opportunity for further changes to procurement from within, you know, across all the public sector, also from some of the main suppliers as well. Can I just touch upon that and the work that you've carried out in so far? We've linked to local authorities and whatnot. In terms of particularly in procurement, whether there's some sort of clause in there where there should be a trail in terms of end product destination? Yeah, so we... There isn't a specific clause, but absolutely, this is the type of conversation that we're now having, or we have been having with, not just local authorities, but other parts of the public sector. It's not just, you know, it's not just where, what the product has been made of and where it comes from, but what happens at the end of life. Obviously, you don't want it to have an end of life. You want to have something, you need to be buying things that are repairable, remanufactured or can be reused again and again, and we're beginning to see those changes within the supply chain as well to support some of those initiatives. Ultimately, yeah, we still ask that question of local authorities to understand what happens to their waste, what happens to the products that they are either using in their own estates but also collecting from households and businesses what is happening to them. I think that's an important part, and we're all very aware of the impact of our particular plastics that I've had in other parts of the world that have been exported. And again, as well as the kind of moral issue that we need to take on board here, again, it comes back to that economic you know, I've said this quite often, for every one job there isn't just collecting materials for recycling, there's another eight jobs in the reprocessing, remanufacturing and repurposing of those products back into the supply chain. So we're really serious about harnessing those economic opportunities for Scotland and we need to think about doing something more constructive with the materials here in Scotland and hence the circle economy. Okay, thanks. Do you see that again opportunities there to maximise the circular economy benefits or supporting enterprises innovating more in that that's a kind of area? Yeah, absolutely. That is at the heart of the circular economy is what can we do. Not just, as I said, just doing something clever with waste but we're actually designing a system so we can maximise the use of all of the products and materials that we already have so we're reducing demand because ultimately the real pressure on the climate is from our kind of linear economy but we're taking more and more stuff producing stuff, manufacturing it and ultimately throwing it away quite often after one use what this discussion is all about. Okay, thank you. Can I just add to that? Absolutely. You worried about exporting problem materials. Most of the countries that we would look to export are already moving in the same direction so that these materials wouldn't be welcome there either. I mean, Europe's already moved I hear now that China is even regulating this I didn't mean that to sound derogatory towards China but there are countries all around the world that are moving in this direction and big multinational companies will look at that and decide that they might as well produce one type of whatever it is than several and therefore the direction of travel is to eliminate these all over the place. It's not a Scottish problem, it's a global problem. That's good to know. Thanks, Tim. Okay, thanks Collette. Mark Ruskell, please. Thanks. Is there any potential threat from the UK Internal Market Act or are we going to move towards alignment over regulations across the UK? Are there any industry sectors, industry players who are still holding out for a market, for drinks draws or anything else? Internal Market Bill, but I would say, Mark, that the Court of Public Opinion will probably resolve some of those issues. Any big business or even good medium-sized business would not want to be seen not to be on board with these types of regulations. Ian, have you got anything to add on that? Yeah, I agree. The Internal Market Bill is out with my scope of expertise. Any differentiation of standards would definitely have an impact. I think I echo what Jim says. There's a lot more deli consumer pressure and even from the big business, the big corporates and the supply chains are really taking this much more seriously. I don't think we will see that alignment. OK. Thank you, Mark. Monica Lennon, please. Thank you, convener. What we've heard so far is quite encouraging in the sense that businesses are already very engaged and prepared. We've heard that Scotland isn't a first mover in some of these issues so we know we can learn from practice elsewhere. I know Zero Waste Scotland has been really involved with disability organisations including Inclusion Scotland who have given us a written submission so we know about the plastic stores advisory group so it might be turned to Ian in a second but Jim, you gave the example of Capri Sons which I'm sure many of us are familiar with, especially anyone who's involved with small children. Thinking about the target exemptions for example if someone buys a Capri Sun in a cafe or somewhere where they're going to sit in and they request a straw the Capri Sun it's quite a narrow little straw so what is the expectation on different businesses in terms of the cover range of straws that they might have to have if people do a request because we understand that from the request system employees won't be able to ask people why they're asking for the straw and we won't have always any stigma so is this something that businesses have to look at in a lot of detail or can they just have one plastic straw in the cupboard? I've got to say we've not looked at it in a lot of detail but I would volunteer that we are talking about the straw and not the container so it would be quite easy to decan the contents of the container into a suitable vessel, a tumbler or a cup so that a normal sized straw could be used we've not considered that we've not had any problems up until now and this regulation has given us a problem that we need to move from plastic to paper but the disability issue is not something that we have considered in the past but we will do you know I've not known that we've had a discussion on that yet Yeah well it's absolutely essential that the disability and equality issues are considered so I know Ian Gulland at Zeroway Scotland's had more direct involvement in this so Ian interested to hear what level of guidance will be required because if someone is requesting a plastic straw because of the targets they don't have to give a big explanation but they might not have their own cup handy and they might feel at disadvantage so I wonder if you can speak to that given the close involvement of Zeroway Scotland in that advisory group Yeah no thanks so yeah so as well as doing the business impact assessment we've been heavily involved in the equality impact assessment even the island's impact assessment in the fair of Scotland impact assessment so you know we've been quite intensively discussing these things and obviously yeah quite closely with some of the disability groups about this so we're well aware of the potential challenges that you know are coming down and hopefully the guidance will reflect that I think you know when I get into the absolute detail of every single circumstance I mean you know from our experience though this is where you know innovation and application from you know people in the front lines so to speak and you know again going back to that point of continually updating the guidance being out there proactively listening to people how they're going to to some extent solve some of these individual issues that are going to arise potentially and we'll you know make them update the guidance as we go forward and look for clear channels to communicate this to other people that are struggling potentially ahead of the regulations coming in because what we don't want to do is you know wait for those situations to arise and yeah I guess I'm just reflecting on another implementation you know a carrier bag legislation and others you know that's been the course of our engagement right talking with people right on the front line not people within the supply chain but people potentially in the hospital industry who are going to have to serve customers and what they think would be the challenges on that as we go forward so yeah very absolutely you know that we know that these are particular issues that we're going to have to address and we're working directly with the groups that you've mentioned Thank you Ian yeah that engagement is very important wipes have been mentioned already and I asked the minister about this last week and what other items may be covered by future restrictions I think you quoted a figure of 94% of the public being in favour of a ban on wet wipes so it looks like the public are way ahead of governments on this issue from a Zero Waste Scotland perspective Ian what more could be done to minimise the use of single use wet wipes and when would you think that the Government in Scotland could look at this issue again and perhaps add that to the list of restricted items I don't understand 94% people wanted a ban I'd have to check the consultation certainly they wanted action on wet wipes whether it was an out and out ban but certainly we felt that further action on wet wipes would be productive again the reason the list that is going forward is that there are already alternatives readily accessible alternatives to that list so whilst there are alternatives to plastic and wet wipes cellulose layer there is still some work to understand still what the impact of that is within the wider environment in terms of the gradeability so there are some other things that need to be just worked through in terms of the technical aspects of it but clearly it's been highlighted as still a massive issue particularly around the beach surveys here in Scotland and across the UK so it's not just a Scottish issue it's a UK issue hence there's a selling opportunity to work at UK level if a ban or further restrictions are going to be put in place so I know from discussions with the Scottish Government that it's something they're keen to pursue looking to at pace it's obviously on their agenda at this moment in time Thank you and thank you for the clarification Thanks very much final question from me the plastic, single plastic use regulation we're considering this morning it's part of a wider series of environmental environment-related regulations that will be coming into force over the next coming months and years ahead I wonder Jim if you want to take this opportunity to give your views on what future regulations may have more of an impact on business which may cause your members some concern Thank you, convener, I welcome that All the regulations that are coming our way are largely the right things to do but in more common wise not necessarily in the right order you know we have we've worked on DRS for a while now and we think that's the right way to go we've been supportive of that for four or five years we're struggling just to get to that end game at the moment and I know the ministers considering a delay and we hope that she does give a delay because there are some parts of the industry that are ready to go and some parts of the industry that are not ready to go on DRS it can't be delivered in parts it's got to be the whole and our best estimate of the really the right time to go on DRS is September 2023 that still gives industry a problem because in England and in Wales they won't be ready until late 2024 and that was the issue on fraud that I alluded to because over £4 a case more expensive in Scotland in England you will start to see people trying to make money on that on EPR again exactly the right thing to do we have largely supported of it we still can't get governments and I'm saying governments probably Westminster but some part of that would be in Edinburgh who can't say whether DRS is part of an EPR scheme we've been waiting two years perhaps three on a VAT rolling from HMRC so we've got and this is the thing about getting it in the right order we've got EPR coming in in between Scotland DRS and England DRS so EPR comes in in the middle of that you know that's really confusing and will be a problem we've got single use plastics in the background I don't think that actually impacts on any of that but what does is plastics packaging tax which comes in next April now we've employed a plastics packaging tax we need to be able to use recycled content up to 30% now we're already doing that in the business I work for there are lots of other businesses already doing that but as you put that pressure on people more and more people to use at least 30% recycled material the right thing to do but you don't have the material to use because DRS is not up and running you start to see the disconnect DRS should be up and running to give the good materials that allows people to move to recycle material content all of this is all directionally right but in the right order at the wrong order sorry that's how I would sum it up here that's very helpful thank you Ian did you have any thoughts on the same question I sympathise with what the gentleman is saying we are in a climate emergency and we do need to take action we're serious we're serious about ending our contribution to climate change we're going to have to tackle our throwaway society and our waste issues and we're going to have to do that at pace there are things that are being done quite quickly because of consumer pressure because of the things that are happening at a UK level in terms of legislation around produced responsibility that Tim has already mentioned we in Scotland are ourselves and the Scottish Government we're supporting the Scottish Government to develop a route map for achieving our own targets by 2025 and looking beyond that in terms of the climate ambitions hopefully that gives us an opportunity in Scotland to look at what's already happening in terms of regulation but to try to set out a clearer pathway in how all these things fit together in the sequencing but it's quite a dynamic space for all the obvious reasons this is about climate change we need to take action and there's this huge momentum in the public that we need to tackle some of these issues and we need to do them quickly OK, thank you very much that wider perspective is actually very helpful I appreciate it because it will help guide the committee in the months ahead in terms of when we begin to look or continue to look at some of those issues I think that brings us to the end of the questions we have in this session thank you once again Jim and Ian for joining us, for joining this session enjoy the rest of your day that brings us to the end of this public session we will suspend the meeting and rejoin the session after this change of agenda item thank you welcome back agenda item 3 is consideration of a negative instrument the water environment controlled activity Scotland amendment regulations 2021 I refer members to paper number 3 the instrument is laid under the negative procedure which means that its provisions will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annull it no motions to annull have been laid the delegated powers and law reform committee considered this instrument on 23 November and determined that it did not need to draw the attention of Parliament to the instrument on any grounds within its remit do members have any comments on this instrument Mark Ruskell thanks convener welcome the broad intention of this instrument particularly given COP26 and the commitments that were made around methane reduction but also the need to prove the ecological condition of our fresh water resources my slight concern with this instrument is just around where the cut-off point has been chosen for transitional arrangements for the larger farms and we have to move really quickly into dealing with salari in a more responsible way but for the smaller farms there will be a delay there a transitional period of up to five years these regulations are not really taking effect until 2027 that leaves us just three years before we are meant to be meeting that 30% methane target so I suppose what we have before us is before us I do not object to it but I would like to find out more information from the Scottish Government about where they drew the line in terms of with the smaller farms allowing them to adapt over a much longer timescale and just some more information on that I think would be useful in terms of understanding Scottish Government's thinking on that and perhaps where some of the lobbying has come from trade bodies and others that seems a sensible suggestion to me does any member want to add to that are we agreed that the committee will write to the Scottish Government on those terms excellent okay great apart from that I invite the committee to agree that it does not wish to make any further recommendations in relation to this instrument are we agreed we are agreed thank you very much I now close the public part of the committee meeting thank you


Over 100 snowmobile racers will ride into Bemidji tomorrow, all part of the USXC cross-country snowmobile race. Crews are busy out on Lake Bemidji, setting up the finish line for the big race today. Snowmobile racers from all over the country are competing for the top honors and for a cash prize as well. Well, the majority of our racers are from Minnesota, Dakota, Wisconsin, some from Iowa. But for this event here, we have racers from Maine, New York, Alaska, California, all over Iowa, you know, quite a few Canadians. The race originally was from Winnipeg to Wilmer. It was only passing through Bemidji, but due to the lack of snow further south, some adjustments have had to be made to the course. We've revised the format. We're running from Winnipeg to Thief River Falls, which we did yesterday. Today we're running a 195-mile loop in the Thief River Falls area, and tomorrow we run from the Casino on Thief River into Bemidji here, which there will be about 125 miles. The race wraps up tomorrow on Lake Bemidji behind the country in its suites. Last stretch of the race is from Thief River Falls to Bemidji, like I just said. Racers are expected to cross the finish line as early as 11 tomorrow morning. We'll bring you some of that tomorrow night on Lakeland News. If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News, please consider making a tax-deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.


What's going on guys, it's your boy DPJ here today with another Destiny video and today we're going to see the contents of me opening 15 plus Skeleton Key Chests. Now some of these videos are pretty old as I've been recording them here and there since Skeleton Chests have been introduced into the game at the end of Strikes. So forgive me for some of them being old and their light levels and some of the items me receiving not being up to current standards, but at the time there were what I needed to raise that light level. I think it was a 365 start. I can't even remember is that far back, but if you guys enjoyed the video and want to see more compilations of Skeleton Key Chests openings, let me know down below in that comment section. Also drop a like and a video to help her reach 8 to support. If you could reach 4000 likes, they'd be absolutely epic, but guys hope you enjoyed the video and I'll catch you on that next one. No way. Hold up. All me cloaks are full. Me cloaks are full, so hopefully, hopefully I've got something in my postmaster. Yeah we'll go to the tower after this. I need, I've got the solar one, so anything but the solar one. Anything but the solar one. Yeah. Does it? Does it really? Oh yeah it does.  Yes we've gone to the tower though. Yeah. I've got something in my postmaster. Please be a cloak, not the solar one. Do you trust it to be the one I have? The one I have? Trust it to be that one? I mean it's a higher level yes, but still.  Please game.   Oh my fucking.  Probably yeah, but still I want a grasp of Manic.  No doubt about it, but my primers are full so I could have a grasp in my postmaster. Oh so it's one higher, but yeah. So that's not bad. That's not bad. So yes I have something in my postmaster. Please game. Bleed a grasp. No! Hold up a minute. Did I get anything? Oh I've got the Amnibagoban.   That's what it's useless. Not bad. Not as good as the key. I'm not sure what you can get, but I got an artifact in the Baron's ambition heavy. So not bad. Let's just hope they are above current level.  I thought it was higher. I fact it's higher so that's good. That is good. Can't complain about that.   Thank you. Thank you because... Let me get rid of something. What comes from this chest? Yeah I know about the hood of my...  I got the artifact and the hood of my...   My one now is only 380, so yep. I'm trapped. I'm trapped. Yes it does. Good thing you could stop doing this.  I have no idea. So what's that? The hood of the night sun? Mmm, I haven't seen that before. Is that a little sneaky peaky? I was hoping for a weapon. Where did a night sun?  Nice mortal light you got there Doug. Oh it's a baby cloak. It's a baby cloak.  Postmaster please have something good for me. Please have something good for me. Oh the devil's dawn. The devil's dawn sniper rifle. Did not know that came from that strike. Let's have a look at this. Oh we got life support. We have armor piercing rounds, rifle barrel, quick draw and firefly. You know what? That could be a beast and look at that damn impact. Thank you very much. Are you ready? You ready? You ready? Oh pistol panic! Oh yeah yeah, I got one. I've been saving it because I need to get me four one. Four one comes from this. This is the last thing I have to do. But I also want them sexual hunter gauntlets. That's what I'm, that's what I want.  Manga August grass. That's what we're talking about. As well as my, you know for a second I didn't think my phone was gonna pop up. I didn't think my phone was gonna pop up.   Have you seen them Chris? Yeah, you would you jammy bastard, you get everything. But oh my days they look so sexual.  They look so good. It's unbelievable. I love them. I love them.  Uh yeah, just kidding he's got no health. That's it. There we go. Simple as that. Yeah I'm opening it. I've got a key. I want to get that, that fake bingo, Imago loop, you know what I'm saying?  I left it too late didn't I? Yes I did.   And I'm even a big fool because although I just got an Imago loop, I just put on that lower level helmet and didn't switch back. So this is gonna come out real low. Even if it's a fake bingo though.  Oh well. Oh ain't no fake bingo but I've got a rescue mag, bitram, lightweight and lock it in the chamber. So I can't really complain about that. I've never used it. I've seen a couple people run around in PvP with it but to be honest I'm not really a hand cannon sort of guy when it comes to PvP.  I ain't bad. It's not bad. I'm probably trying in PvP. It's got no range but still.  Sure shot as well. So it's got a better target acquisition. So yeah it's not bad.  We'll get one. Yeah I'll pop up. Wait it should pop up. Oh there we go. And there we go. Yes there is a class item which I didn't get.   I got nothing coming up on my screen. I mean my class items are full. Here just go back to the tower. It's probably gone there.   Well yes. Yes yes to the tower it is. Yeah. Send me my post master. It's gonna be the class item in it. So have a look at it. Yep knew it. Knew it. Markly Lexus Undone.  I'm cream cracking mate. Tired on that up two hours sleep last night.  But yeah. You know what it is. Yeah you can get I'm sending a team to see what's going on. I think it's the band's ambition. All hexed. The auto rifle. Class item as I just got. I know you can get the Warlock helmet as well. Which is well at one. You want it at a high level. Now I just got a class item.  Oh yeah. Yeah. Because I can. I'm gonna go to the tower. See what I get. Okay so I have something in my post master. I wonder what it could be. Let's see. Oh yes I got the helmet. The Valorant Moor. And it's a 400. Basically.  Looks incredible.  That should have been exotic. Jesus. Sexual. Beautiful.   Look at his house. Just get drew in. Jesus. Jesus. Yes I do. Because I want the Skept. A treasure upon the stars. Valos to Arc has finally been defeated in the Cabal Command Delta Great Blow. I got space. I got space. More fleets will come. And new leaders will rise. Make more space just in cash. Don't know what else drops from here. But I get the trends. That's what I wanted. Please have a decent role. Every time I get this it's got a shocking role. I'm hoping. I'm hoping. It's got a good role. I will let the game ends before I take a look at it. Because it normally keeps me from a menu.  But yeah. I'm not going to get shocking like Gorilla Fighter.  And surrounded. And I don't even know. But yeah. I'm hoping for. Because it's like the year two version of Vision of Confluence, isn't it? Looks exactly the same. Shoots the same. Same sight I think. I don't know if you can get full auto on it to be honest. I love that but I don't think you can. But it's just a good role for a scout. Moment of truth. Moment of truth. Oh. Outlaw and claw control. The OAS. Not bad sight. Claw control. Feel scout. Handlaid stuck. And outlaw. You know what? That isn't too bad. That isn't too bad. Easily the best one I've had. By a mile. I can't wait to try it out. I can't wait to try this out. Thank you game.     There we go. There we go. Now please please please. Give me that perfect role. Imago loop. Fate bringer. Mother fucker. Whoop. I can see lost head there. Artifact. And I got the Imago loop.  Watch it. Danger close. Hammer forge. Rife wood barrel. An army of one. Kill me now. Yeah it's got range.   Let's get infused. Straight away.  Valus. That OAS house just went up a bit.   He did it. Yes I'm going to open the chest because I want to see if I can get enough trips upon stars. Yeah I know. It was easy yeah. But um.  You never know. You never know. I could get an even better role. I got one. I get one. Oh is it a game too? Yeah the other one I had. I told you. Oh. Yeah outlaw. Handlaid stock and crack control. So this one I'm hoping has I don't know. Glass half full. Reactive reload. I don't even know if I can get that. And rifle barrel. Or reinforced barrel.  What I got.  Exhumed. Explosive rounds. Oil frame. And underdog tear.   Yeah if I don't get it I will try because I've never had it. I don't know. It's never ever dropped for me. It's just never ever dropped for me. So one cloak. It's just always avoided me.   Trust me to get it on my titan. I also got mark of fortunes with another titan class item.  Everyone's got it apart from what I got it now. But everyone had it apart from me. Everybody. But I've never had it on my hunter. Never got it dropped. It's typical how I'll get it on my titan.   Did I just get another class item? Toward the sky mark. What? Three class items in a matter of 15 seconds.   May as well. I will keep going until I get that perfect roll.  Treads upon stars in the height of the hood of the night zone which is that baby cloak which I've had before.  Have you noticed any? Oh my days. I'll short you. I'll short you when you come on.  Yeah. Mm-hmm. No, I don't know. I think I got it from... You weren't sure I could get it from. I don't know.  But yeah, you know.  Jesus. Yeah.   I'm trying to look at things. Back in game. Um, please. Game. Have a good roll. Moment of truth. Oh, we got live support and outlaw with the red dot O-R-E-S. I'm using Vans. Custom upticks, Disciplinarian and outlaw. So isn't as good as the one I've already got which is outlaw, hand laid stock and glass half full. But still, still not bad.  Oh my. So bad. Wow. You should tell her. Grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp, grasp.  And a brawler's cloak. What is that? What was that? Yeah, I know. But still, having two decent road ones can't be a bad thing, can it? Yeah, the one I've got is amazing. It's just got brush room. I'd rather hand laid stock because of clip size, brush room.  I mean, yeah, you know, takes range line. But still, this thing don't need a range.  Drills like a beast. Yeah, not much difference between the two. Oh, we got glass half full and surrounded. Is that bull crap? Oh my days. Oh, it's terrible. It's terrible. What a waste of a skeleton key.  Yeah, I prefer it to when I drop from the bus. Yeah, that's a waste of keys then. What a cloak. It's not bad looking though. Yeah, the brawler's cloak. It's not bad looking. Yes, yes, I will. You must be ready to fix that. Didi, didi, didi, didi. I was gonna keep you in there. Might as well.  So, yeah. Let's hope this one's got a good roll though. Let's hope this one's got a good roll.  So, yeah. So, yeah. Shit.  Hurry up and load, game. Fuck's sake. Okay, it's our moment of truth. We...  We read the OAS. I had a storm. Armor piercing rounds.   Infusion packing material.   Absolute garbage.


We received a call of an accident on 80 coming out of Buck's Branch. Upon arrival, Subject had some serious injuries to his feet and legs. And he was flown out, not for sure where he's flown out, but the accident's on your investigation. There was no, we don't believe he was under the influence of nothing. It's still under investigation.


Welcome to JSA TV, the newsroom for tech and telecom professionals. I'm Jamie Scato-Cutaya here at JSA, ITW 2018 in Chicago with my friend, Gil Santelis, CEO of NJFX, New Jersey Fiber Exchange. Gil, welcome to JSA TV. Great. Thank you for having me, Jamie. It's nice to be with you here in Chicago once again. It's an honor. It's an honor, my friend. And ITW is a buzz. Everyone's talking about all this subsea development. What's causing all this movement here? So the subsea world has really taken off again, and it's because of the nature of the business. Every 20 years or so, subsea cables go through a refresh cycle. So here we are in 2018 with cables that were deployed in 2020 and 2000, and it's time to start looking at the new generation of subsea cables. Yeah, and you have to think when we're talking new generation subsea cables, it's sort of a wonderful explanation of NJFX, your new generation building room for housing these subsea cables and more. That's right. So what we've done at NJFX, everyone knows already, we took the first step in creating a carrier neutral facility where cables physically land in the U.S. So traditionally, that's not the way it works. Traditionally, these projects were managed by a consortium group. One group took the lead, and that one group became the landlord, one operator, and there was a contentious relationship at times between the one operator who competed with his tenants. In our case, by being a natural carrier neutral facility, we're allowing everyone to be in the even playing field, which allows common investment. So all the members now are willing to invest equally. All the transport folks that are coming in from the U.S. feel comfortable investing also, and that becomes the logical place where you're going to interconnect these networks that are coming in from Europe, Latin America and the U.S. It becomes the perfect marketplace. And the perfect marketplace, what type of capacity demands are there that's driving all of this? So today, I'm happy to share that TI Sparkle announced that they're having the first cable from the northeast going to Florida, but they're not taking the traditional route. It's a subsea cable. They're using a subsea cable and repurposing this cable to connect the New Jersey, New York marketplace down to Florida. So think this through. We've had a hurricane season like no other in the past, and the hurricanes came along the coast. This cable will now interconnect from NJFX down to Boca, which means from our facility down to Boca cable landing stations out to the Caribbean. We're talking about bypassing Miami coming in from Canada, any part of North America, the West Coast. So we're really getting rid of pinch points as we change the architecture now. We're getting rid of New York City as a pinch point and getting rid of Miami. And this new announcement by Sparkle really highlights that. So rerouting around all of these key cities, like Miami and New York City, what does that mean for security? So it's the ultimate. So it's like if my traffic has to work, am I going to be okay when a storm happens or an event happens in a city that I have nothing to do with? If Kansas, if Columbus is doing their communications with Frankfurt and they see a storm, there's not a concern that their network will go down because Miami is having an issue and New York City is having an issue. We're just providing more options now for these networks to really operate. And in the terms of the cloud, the cloud is only as good as the network. So our industry really does support the cloud because without network, the cloud is not reachable. And by having diverse network routes, now the cloud is always going to be able to be accessed. And talking about our industry, it's changing for sure. The OTTs are jumping into the game more than ever, building these subsea pipes. Is this ideal? It is because they're thinking so far ahead. So they are the applications that make all the connectivity worthwhile. And they're thinking five and 10 years ahead and making sure they're not going to have a congestion point on their own. So their lead investments are really leading towards the best way to develop these networks and diversity. And then putting the groups together as well and picking best-of-breed operators, they're allowing now for this network architecture to be future-proof. Talking about future, future-proofing, what do you see moving forward for NJFX for the next six to 12 months? Sure. So we've been busy, right? So we built a facility. We built a Meet Me Room. We put one in the Tata facility to try and help them have a carrot neutral play in their existing cable landing station. Then we built a separate Tier 3 facility right next door to make all the interconnections work and have that kind of quality. But at the same time, too, we've been developing another 48 acres. So 48 acres in addition to our building and the Tata cable landing station makes a campus. Negotiating with the utility to try and get more power to the region. And all of a sudden, now we've got a 58-acre cable landing station campus. So other companies can have their own facilities. They can turn around and have operational independence. But they're still sitting at the cable landing station park at the campus, and they can go ahead and connect to those subsea cables. So it's a pretty dynamic situation we've created. Nowhere else in the world do you have 58 acres that connects to multiple subsea cables that now goes to Europe, the Caribbean, and Latin America. It's now become quite the small world after all, hasn't it? And it seems like all cables lead to NJFX. So exciting times. Gosh, I was listening to you and thinking back 15 years when we first met, and it wasn't a long, exciting road it's been and so many more exciting roads ahead. Thank you, Jamie. I've always enjoyed working with you, and I always pride myself in the fact that we have this 20-year relationship when we were both just getting started. I was building a fiber-regional network in New York and New Jersey, and you were kicking off JSA and proud to see that you've grown an incredible organization as well and happy to work with you. Yeah, we're proud and honored, Gil. And I can't say enough, if you haven't checked out NJFX, you need to. My friend, Gil Santelis. Thank you, Gil, for joining us here and thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA TV.


The cooperation between Interpol and the United Nations is the fruit of a long-term bilateral commitment in ensuring international peace and security. The two organizations collaborate on many projects and initiatives to fight international crime and have identified the fight against terrorism as one of the major priorities of their work agendas. A recent example of this partnership is something called the Capacity Building and Training Program. And it's aimed at strengthening the impact of the United Nations Security Council resolutions to combat terrorism in the ASEAN region. This is funded by the Government of Canada and it's implemented by Interpol at its global complex for innovation in Singapore. The initiative received very strong support of the United Nations Security Council's subsidiary Organs Branch and members of the relevant sanctions committees. The program provided the occasion for 44 law enforcement officials from the ASEAN region to benefit from enhanced theoretical and practical knowledge about the United Nations Security Council resolutions. Listed individuals and entities, the listing process, the operating procedures to implement the travel ban for individuals sanctioned by the United Nations Security Council because of their association with archaic and related entities and the Interpol United Nations Security Council special notices, the Interpol border management best practices, and so forth. This training platform was also used to strengthen interagency and regional communication and cooperation. An important amount of additional biometric information for existing Interpol United Nations Security Council special notices was also processed through these trainings, including 12 new pictures and 22 new fingerprint entities. Furthermore, two positive hits were generated under Interpol United Nations Security Council special notice and follow-up action was taken during Operation Sumber 2. The operation combined multiple Interpol counterterrorism projects, including the one targeting United Nations sanctions, and sought to maximize the use of Interpol policing capabilities for regional and interagency cooperation. But more specifically, it consisted in the systematic screening of individuals and their passports, entering or departing key border areas in the ASEAN region against these Interpol databases. This important operational activity received the active and timely support from the Captain United Nations Services. The cooperation between Interpol and the United Nations has already proven its efficiency and added value for the sake of global peace and security. Its future and continuity require the active participation of member states and the exchange of information between Interpol, the National Central Bureau's, the special representative of Interpol to the United Nations and the relevant UN sanctions committees.