Yeah, I smelled the mustard because I want to smell it so that I can predict. Hi, I'm Heather and welcome to Hack Chat. Today I'm going to be talking about TikTok hacks. I'm going to be rating them as usual on a scale of helpfulness and easiness, but also because it's TikTok hacks, I'm going to be rating them on a scale of fun because I've learned from my TikTok consultant, my 14-year-old daughter that they have to be fun. TikTok hacks must be fun. I'm going to do the egg sandwich hack. Egg sandwiches are one of the best things in the world and this hack I was so excited to try. I have the feeling it's going to be amazing, but I'm just going to just stop talking and just try it out. I'm going to put some butter in even though this is already nonstick because butter is good. So here's the thing about this one. I don't know who invented it. If you invented this, let me know in the comments down below because I would like to give you credit. Whisk it up. All right, here we go. So you put your eggs in, let them cook a little bit, season it up. I like a lot of black pepper. Put it down, put it down next to it. It smells really good like the best Sunday morning. I want this to flip over perfectly. I'm putting American cheese on this because my preferred breakfast sandwich is a bacon egg and cheese. I'm going to put some bacon on here. I'm going to put some hot sauce on here. Fold it up into a pocket. Okay, that is extremely satisfying. Here's what I want to discuss about this. First of all, I'm very excited. Second of all, I'm hungry. Third of all, look at the proportions. Proportions are very important in a sandwich. So here we go.  Mmm. The bread is really soft. There's like a cheesy layer in there. Yeah, look at that. It's a perfect proportion. It's so good. Okay, my ratings are helpfulness, four, easiness, fun, five, plus, plus, plus, plus, plus. I'm sorry, I need to keep talking but I want to put this in my mouth. Like perfectness, four, like five. I don't know, can you give something a five for perfectness or will the world explode if that happens? Like you just don't need to do anything ever again. I think this is a beautiful thing. I give it a thumbs up. The next hack that I'm going to try is mashed potato chips by Sam the cooking guy. There's something about the texture that I'm really curious about. I've decided to test this with sour cream and onion potato chips because that is the best potato chip flavor. The first most curious thing about this recipe is that we're using a kitchen scale for precision. Three ounces exactly. So I'm going to just heat up this water. Have to wait for it to boil. I did do a little bit of research beforehand on this one and a lot of the conversation has to do with the price of a potato versus the price of a bag of potato chips. Is it more expensive to make mashed potato chips or is it more expensive to make plain mashed potatoes? Okay, so I have the chips, putting them in. This might be good if you were camping. Really everything tastes better when you're camping. Like all foods improve by like 50% when you're camping because you're just hungry. Okay, so this has only been about 10 seconds. These are softening up. They feel a little gluey. So this is like stirring like a really thick cake batter. Okay, so we're going to add a fourth of a cup of half and half. It's created a sort of a lumpy sauce. I'm going to try to cook it down a little. This appears to be very, very, very, very lumpy. I'm trying to give this really its best shot. Like I want all of the hacks to work. I don't think it's ready because it's still liquid. And I know that because when I push my spoon through it, it fills in the channel. Like if I were parting the red seat, nobody would be safe. Nobody could get across. I'm going to let it boil. Okay, so we're ready to plate it. I've followed the TikTok as closely as I possibly could. I'm going to give this its best shot here. Chop up some scallions. Here I go. Okay, so it's possible that I did something wrong. And it's possible that the brand of chips is really important. But this is really lumpy and very liquidy. So it's like somewhere in between a soup and mashed potatoes. It's not like good. On a scale of helpfulness, it's like a two or a one because I got my hopes up. It like went from a two to a one because I got my hopes up and then they were sort of dashed for easiness. It's a two because it's like it's not harder to make mashed potatoes. I don't know, on a scale of disappointment, it's like pretty high. It's like a five. Fun doesn't work in a linear way. Fun, it's cumulative.  Overall, I give it a thumbs down. Lumpy. For this TikTok hack, I'm going to be making Dalgona coffee. I think that I'm going to be a good test case because I have not actually watched this video before and I've never made it. And then apparently you have to dance and pretend to play a flute. So I wonder if I'm going to just be whisking all day, but I also could use a workout, especially on my top half. So that's two tablespoons of each thing. Sugar, coffee, water. Oh, this is already frothing. This is already becoming thick. It smells like coffee, but also kind of like dirt. It's a beautiful color. It's like very ribbony. This is fun so far. I'm going to use oat milk. So here I go, half glass of oat milk. And here I go. Look at that. It's just fun to look at it. It also floats, which shouldn't really be surprising because it's filled with air. All right, here it is, the moment of truth. It's super good. It like sticks to your top lip. It's kind of warmish on the top and then it's really cold underneath and then you get two different flavors. Bitter sweetness, that's fluffy. Then you get like cold blandness. Here are my remaining questions. Do I have to mix it up? And is it better if I mix it up? Is it better if I drink it straight out of the glass or if I use a straw? Definitely don't like the straw. I don't think it's going to turn out well. Yeah, that just turned into instant coffee. So yeah, it's better if you drink it out of the glass unmixed up without a straw. So here's what I want to say about the rating scales in this world is that like fun is so important. Fun and helpfulness are sometimes at odds with each other. It's kind of like in a curved scale just for TikTok. Like this coffee in real life, it's not really that helpful, but like if you want a delicious fluffy coffee that's pretty fun to make, I'd say that you are helped by this. And so I'd say that helpfulness, it's a four. Easiness, it's like a three. This is the longest rating of any ratings ever. Fun, it's a four. I mean, that's pretty fun. Overall, thumbs up. The TikTok hack that I'm going to try next is Pesto Eggs. I love it because you take a store bought thing that's already delicious and it has a lot of fat in it and you use it to cook the eggs. I'm acting like I've made this before. I've never made it before, obviously. But sometimes I've seen ones, this is way too hot. Way, way, way, way too hot. It doesn't find everybody. Don't worry. The sizzly sound is one of the best sounds. So what's happening here is like the oil separates out. I'm seeing it happen. The eggs are cooking, the flavors getting all around them. So what's happening underneath here, I want to tell you because I don't know if you can see it, but like a lot of crispiness is happening that maybe some people would consider burnt, but other people would consider caramelized. It smells like pasta in the summertime, herbs and cheese and like the olive oil. It's very, very fragrant. All right, it's done. I'm kind of a little bit of a purist, but I'm going to do this combination anyway. So this is ricotta cheese. You know, if you don't try new things then life is going to be boring. I have already sliced an avocado, flatten it up. I'm going to put some salt on here. I'm going to put some Pesto Eggs on here. Now I don't know if anybody is as excited as I am. Probably not because this isn't in your house yet. This is drizzly honey in a bear. Okay, so I plated up this Pesto Eggs. It's like a whole entire meal. I would totally eat this for dinner. I don't really think it's a hack. I think it's just a really good new recipe. It's so good. I just, I just hit my cutting board really hard. It's really so incredibly tasty. The toastedness of the Pesto, which I was slightly worried about is really doing a lot. It's like really, really serves a purpose.  There's like nothing phony in there. So here we go. Let's talk about it. On a scale of helpfulness, I give it like a three. On a scale of easiness, it's like four. So it's exactly the same difficulty level as making eggs in another way. But as a fun element, I give it like a two because it's exactly like making eggs in another way. I guess like the thing that makes it a hack is that you get to have all of these flavors that are very, very good with eggs. Overall, as a hack, I'm gonna just have to give it a thumbs down not because I don't think it's delicious because I don't really think it's a hack. This next hack that I'm gonna try, it's peppers with cream cheese and everything bagel seasoning. It's by this nurse, Janelle Roner. Is this a hack? Because to me, it's just putting three foods together. But maybe it's because like, it's using a pepper instead of a bagel. Also, my daughter loves Miranda Sings. I also love Miranda Sings and I saw her try it the other day. So I want to try it out. Let's see what it's all about. All right, so we take a pepper. I'm gonna get rid of all of the insides. So I think that this snack exists for people who don't really want to have like a ton of carbs. I'm also gonna do this thing that I discovered when I was camping.  I'm sneaking a mini hack in here. Here we go. This is not difficult, putting a lot on. This is like predictably good. It's like chili, creamy with like, I can't even believe how much I put on there and you can actually see my tooth marks. It's really tasty snack, but I don't think it's a hack. Do you think it's a hack? Well, you let me know in the comments below. So I'm gonna rate this. It's not super helpful as a hack because it didn't invent something new. So it's like a two. It's very easy. Five for an easiness scale. For fun, it's like a two. It's an ordinary snack level of fun.  As a snack, I give it a thumbs up. As a hack, I give it a thumbs down. The watermelon mustard TikTok challenge. I'm not afraid of it at all. I don't know what could be so bad about it. I'm gonna just watch Lizzo do it because I just could watch her have a facial reaction all day long. She somehow slices her watermelon by snapping. She just has so many emotions, like in a row on her face. It's like, she's not sure. She thinks it's gross. She thinks it's good. She goes back in for more. Yeah, that's fantastic. Let's do it. I'm gonna do a giant chunk because I thought that was really fun looking. I was told that the mustard had to be yellow. Here we go. Yeah, I smelled the mustard because I wanna smell it so that I can predict.  Did you know that? Squiggle. All right. This tastes so much like mustard on watermelon. You'd hardly believe it. I don't know. For easiness, I give it a four. So I think like for fun, I guess I give it like a three for like helpfulness. I give it a two. I'll give it a two because I like trying new things for predictability. I give it a five. Overall, sure. You know what? Yeah, give it a thumbs up cause it's fun to try things out. So we're gonna talk a little bit about what we did today. We tried a lot of TikTok hacks. We talked a lot about what hacks are and what they're not. When is it a recipe and when is it a hack? Can you please tell me what you think? I seriously want to know. I need to talk about my least favorite first just to get it out of the way. Potato chips, mashed potatoes is only good if you have a desperate craving for mashed potatoes and you are locked in a convenience store with a little bit of boiling water. But my favorite thing and it really like shines more brightly than anything in the whole entire universe of TikTok hacks that I tried today is this egg sandwich and it's the perfect hack and you know why? Because it improves upon the egg sandwich. It's like, can you really improve upon that? And the answer is yes. I literally read your comments so please tell me what hacks you want to see. You know, I'd like to talk about back to school. I think that's a really good time for hacks.


And here's a DGX station here at NVIDIA and who are you? Hi, I'm Marcus Weber. I'm actually the product manager for that DGX station. So that looks like the most beautiful desktop in the world. What is this? It's absolutely beautiful. I think so too. Why do you make it so golden? That's a design feature. So it just looks beautiful. Inside is all black. Very nicely laid out. It essentially packs four of our most powerful compute GPUs. So I'll just go right here. So the most powerful NVIDIA GPUs right here, this is the 1080. What is this? It's a V100. V100? So that's above 1080? Yes, it's a Tesla from the Tesla product line, which is specifically for Datacenter compute. Four of them and the new Volta architecture, the V100. So were you already showing this and talking about this at Compitex in June, right? Compitex in Taiwan? Since when is this shipping? So we actually announced this in May this year at our own GTC conference. And now for about a month or so we have been shipping those systems. So you got four GPUs. What else is in here? We have a very high-end Intel 20-core Xeon CPU. We have 256-gig system memory. What's also special about it is that those four V100s are connected with NVLink. So it makes them be able to talk to each other much faster than just over the PCIe bus. And of course it's water-cooled. So here we have the water-cooling system. That really keeps the GPUs nice and cool. And therefore the whole system extremely quiet. Quiet? So is this for supercomputing guys to sit and do supercomputing development? Exactly. So it's both for deep learning training workloads, first of all. But you certainly can use it also for GPU accelerated HPC workloads. So what's the price? The list price on it is 69,000 US dollars. So do you have many customers already? We have many customers already. Of course I can't tell too much about that. Like all the high-end supercomputing employees of the world, right? So all the deep learning research institutions around the world, a lot of healthcare customers, automotive customers, have this already a lot of the big universities. So this Volta, how much of the booth are you talking about here? Pretty much, maybe every booth is somehow related to Volta. That's our new chip architecture, right? The latest and greatest that essentially tripled the performance since last year when we launched Pascal. So can you maybe one or two highlights? Where would you show, should we look over there? Sure, this one. So what are we looking at here? This is the DGX1, so this is the server form factor of our DGX product line. This has actually eight of the greatest GPUs in it, the V100. And this is the one? This is actually the actual GPU, exactly. So it's just a GPU with what is going on? With GPU memory right next to it. And this is the form factor that goes into the server base. So you can see eight of those here. Those things you see here, of course, are the heat sinks that keep them cool with air. So every chip is basically underneath, mounted underneath those heat sinks. All right. So if I go right here. What are you talking about here? Well, there you probably should start asking other people to be by others, yeah. Yeah, I mean, we have a running DGX station over there. Let's check it out. So this guy would be perfect for that. Yeah? Let's jump over there. Maybe, yeah. We need to try to pull him over. Do you want to talk on video? Do you want to talk shortly about it? Yeah, let's go. Hi. Hi, I'm Ryan. I'm Ryan from NVIDIA. So what are you doing over here? All right. So this demo station, we're going to be running the same demo that we ran for Jensen's keynote. We're going to be showing off our new HPC containers. And so this example, we're going to be running the NAMD molecular dynamics code from the University of Illinois. So when was that keynote? That was earlier Monday. So Monday at three. Don't worry, you can find it on livecast. Yeah? So what is it about? Yeah, so maybe we should jump in there. So maybe you can stand right there? Because he's kind of going through it. Maybe we want to come back and do this when I can. So he's basically, what's it called? Just because I'm filming in 4K60, I don't have a hard time editing this. It would be great if we can try to show something. When he moves, I'll do it. You're really doing 4K? Yeah, 4K60. What's going on here on the screen? Let me just get it up and run it. Okay. So today we just announced that we were distributing HPC container apps on our NGC cloud registry. So along with our deep learning frameworks that we have here, we now have HPC applications, Games, Gromax, Lambs, Yandy, and Avion. These HPC apps, just like the deep learning apps, are very complicated, difficult software to install and manage yourself. So we put them in containers. Containers make life easy. Containers are really cool. Is there something to do with what do you call it? The container or the smoke container? Oh, sorry. Docker? Yeah, so this is a docker container registry. And all you do is you choose to download the container. So you sign up, you get an API key, and then you download the container to your system. And so here we started up the container in this window. And we paused. We paused waiting for a connection. Now we're going to connect this other molecular dynamics simulation to... So we're going to connect the visualization of the simulation to the container that's running the simulation. And we're going to now visualize the molecular dynamics in action. This is an HPC container running the simulation. This is the visualization connected to that, showing it in real time. And so you can see that we... You can see the molecules vibrating a little bit. So the idea is we want to run this for a long period of time and understand the dynamics and why the protein is as stable as it is. The last point I want to make, this graphic... That's actually it. That's all I got. That's all you got, yeah? But what are they doing over there? Is it all related with the V100? Yeah, so this simulation over here... Is that in space? Is it in the brain? It is in space. That's looking at the entropy field of a supernova before the supernova event happened.  Crazy happens. They're like one of the more unique astrophysical events in the universe. So this is the simulation of the entropy field. And this is a massive simulation that they've run. And now they're using containerized visualization frameworks to visualize that result. Cool. And right over there, they're doing stuff with cars? Let me check that one. Let me check that one. I don't know that one. Sorry, I'm putting it near the spot. But there's a whole bunch of stuff. Do you want to talk to these guys? Do you want to be in video? Can I ask you? Hey, cool. Thanks a lot. Thank you. So what are you showing here? So this is ANSYS Discovery Live. And this is first of its kind. And what we show here is the CD design simulation. This sort of couples the design tool and the multi-physics simulation very tightly. So by that way, one could sort of really explore a lot of designs. For example, in this case, we could create what-of scenarios like I could just end up creating another copy of this whole truck. So is it about aerodynamics of cars? Yeah, this is external aerodynamics. And what you see is a velocity plot here. So is this only possible to do on NVIDIA hardware? Yeah, this is completely built on CUDA platform. And it runs only on NVIDIA GPUs. So it won't run on CPUs. It won't run on AMD GPUs. It's only on NVIDIA GPUs. Why? Why won't it run on something else? Because it's all on CUDA, built on top of CUDA. So it needs tons of GPU performance. Yeah, at most it uses two GPUs. In this case, one GPU for visualization and another GPU for compute. But you could also end up doing both compute and visualization in a single GPU if that is what is necessary. Nice. Is this an app? Yeah, this is called ANSYS Discovery Live. And made by NVIDIA? The app is made by a company called ANSYS. But they sort of use our NVIDIA technology. What's over there? The developer zone. So they have stuff to do with the developer? Yeah, probably I'm not sure what exactly they're doing. I'm going to introduce myself. I'm PR guy for NVIDIA, so I just wanted to... I won't be on camera. You cannot be on camera? Are you sure? Yeah, you don't want me on camera. Can you introduce me over there? Is it okay if I film while I'm walking? Oh, that's not my car. Let me go over there. People are queuing up with NVIDIA juice. What is this? Sorry, can I jump in here? What kind of stuff is going on around here? Do you have somebody who can talk about it? People using computers. I'm just taking this. I'm just going to check it over there. AIHPC. And this is the Twitter feed. I'm sorry. Sorry, can I just try to film it? I'm sorry? Yeah, so you can... If you get close to one of the windows, you can actually reach out and grab it. That's cool. All right. Hi. So who are you? What are you doing around here? Sorry, my voice is kind of dying. My name is Mark Ebersol. I'm a training platform engineer. I run the training platform that the Deep Learning Institute uses to teach people how to do lots of really great things with deep learning and CUDA and OpenACC. So teaching people how to use... Yeah, deep learning, CUDA, OpenACC, basically how to solve their challenging problems with deep learning or CUDA or OpenACC or any of the other technologies that are accelerated on GPUs. So during this week... Yeah, so DevZone, these are our self-paced labs. It's somewhat buffet style. You come in, you sit, you choose the lab you want to work on, and they're all self-paced. You work through it your own pace. And then we have experts in our expert area who can come and help you with your specific problems and your code. So yeah, we do trainings all over the world at all our regional GTCs. Our training at Supercomputing was actually the first place we did this developer zone. I think it was Supercomputing 12. We've been doing it every year and it's always popular. It's a great way to get free hands-on training. So how hard is it to work... develop on Supercomputer? To develop on a Supercomputer? Well, there's a lot of really challenging problems on Supercomputers. Our tools try to make it as easy as possible to get started. OpenACC is a great way to take existing code and accelerate it with just a few compiler hints. Deep learning is a great way if you have lots of data to go and start training on how to solve those problems. And then CUDA is really when you need to get in and fully optimize your code to run on the GPU. So the developers that can do Supercomputing are kind of like the top developers, kind of? Yeah, it's a great crowd here at Supercomputing. You need to be an advanced developer to understand all the stuff for it. No. Getting started with CUDA labs, our Python labs are all very easy to get started with if you have a base understanding of the language. And then all this stuff works and all the NVIDIA GPU is not only in the top end, the V... Yeah, like these laptops themselves have gamer GPUs in them, and you can write the same deep learning code and you're running on a Supercomputer, you can run on these laptops. Obviously it doesn't run as fast, because it's not quite as a high-end GPU, but you can still develop locally and then go deploy on a big Supercomputer.


Hi. Hi, this is a CY company and we have a factory in Shenzhen and this is our new brand wireless microphone can support a mobile phone and camera. So it has a type-c charge right here, it can take the headphone and back to the camera here. Yeah. And then it has two, two transmitters with a built-in microphone. Yeah. You have some transmitter with a mini jack? This one? Yes. You don't have mini jack on this one? Yes. Like if you need mini jack, it's like this one? What's the difference between these? The size and this one has the big monitor. Have a monitor can show the batteries. All right. So it has a display? Yes. And what kind of price you talk about for this? And what's, is it a minimum order quantity or retail price? This is our, our brand you can stress in Amazon. Amazon already? Yeah, Amazon already. And we, we love to have... You can check it out the price there? Yes. And distributor can contact you? Yes, okay. In every country and make a big order? Yes. And sell in the store? And you always sell with your brand or you also use a customer brand? We support two ways cooperation. Both is okay? Yeah, both is okay. So this one is a, what's the difference in quality from this and this? Is there, the signal is the same? Or this one will be stronger signal? Suppose 85 meter. 85 meter? Yes. Here is a 45. 45. So this is the new, new version? New generation? Yeah, it is a new generation. And this one also? No, no. 45 also? Yes, 45. 45. All right. Cool. So this is a big market. Many people need a good microphone when they do the Instagram, Facebook, YouTube. Yes. All right. Can we have a little look at your product here? So here I see a bunch of Intel products. What is this one? The mini-piece. All right, with all these connectors around? All right. And there's Intel, Intel everywhere? Yeah, Intel supports Intel. Which one is most popular product? This one? Most popular and supports big calls. So it has USB, USB, bunch of USB, gigabit, HDMI, two HDMI? Yes. All right. Price is okay? Okay. Yeah, people contact you, right? For the price. Okay. It's not a too bad price, right?  This you already sell for a few years? Yeah. Yes. This is more popular in Japanese market. In Japan, they love the small laptop. Yes. All right. An 8-inch yoga laptop. Nice. With the ports on the side? For now, we have an upgrade. It's 10.5-inch yoga laptop. 10.5-inch. Yes. With the IPS LCD? Yes. And people can contact you and the price is very good. For order, minimum order, how many pieces? 1,000. 1,000. All right. 1,000. That's 1,000,000. 1,000,000 pieces minimum. Good business. All right. And here's all the Android tablets? Yes. Is it with an MTK CPU? An MTK, yes. All right. Support MTK and with LTE function. They all have LTE? Yes. All support LTE function. All right. So your company is 16 years? Oh, yes. 16 years old. With 300 staff? All right. Okay. Cool.  You have MediaTek, Spreadtrum, Qualcomm, Rockchip and the Googles. All right. Thanks a lot. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.


Hey guys Shaber 1000 here the footage you're about to see of this bar I Had said something in that in that clip that Was not accurate So I will put a caption on the screen and at the end of the video I'll tell the real story and what actually happened. So with that being said Onto the video and enjoy Hey guys shaber 1000 here Thought I'd bring you to this old bar that we went to About a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago We saw driving around looking for places a place to film And we ran across this bar. Well, we ended up parking right over there Let's see.  It's rough. I Said now, honey, these bikers were gonna be cool and it was one of the best times we had and there that was the the Well, what do you call it? Little tiki bar So we came out the back doors here I'll show you we came walk through the bar we came out Right here And we sat down.  So these it used to charge batteries and stuff It used to be a working That you could get drinks and sit over there so you didn't have to walk clear over here So you could sit there Sit over in this area And also you could get Drinks from this side as well. Hey monkey nice setup. You got there. Yeah, you set me up real good Yeah, I made that. Yeah, you know pod Yeah, that's real good. Yeah, so this place was really cool Monkey really like this currently From what we know I was talking to a gentleman over here fishing said that It was a grease fire Sleepy hollow. Like I said, you can get more drinks here over there.     Well, what they didn't steal? they vandalized they broke trying to steal it and So then it reopened and it wasn't open real real long. It wasn't too too long after that apparently they had the grease fire and And It burned down So we don't know the fate of this place yet if they're going to do anything with it Or anything like that. Hopefully they do. I hope they do anyway. This was made out of an old Trailer you can see the you can see the tongue there So this used to be an old trailer that they they built into this so Kind of cool and they also built beer out of here soft tail sign I remember that hanging up on the building it got burnt still got water in it from the ice Hope and I find a menu or something with you So I don't think I uploaded this on YouTube. This was carved with a chainsaw. Look at that amazing Very amazing This was carved with a chainsaw as well. And like I said, I do believe it was a gator If I remember right, I remember seeing it and it got burnt so I Mean you can see the fire was so intense There was another snake here that's what's left of it and It was this place was freaking awesome Nice people everybody was so nice But when she seen all the motorcycles I said, let's go and have a drink.  She said, yeah, it's your kind of place. No mine I said nobody will bother you and they didn't she can believe how Of course, this is the freezer.  Oh man. I Can't believe it. I'm monkey had a patient down this way and she told me here a while back said Hey that bar we went to Out there in the middle of nowhere. I said, yeah, yeah, sleepy all over. She says it burned down. I was like no way And sure the Boy Scout camp but you know it in there no more because they're getting ready to they're supposed to be taking down the cabins and They're supposed to be taking down the cabins and moving them So hopefully that's what they'll do footage of this place before found it and I'm pretty sure I didn't YouTube it And I don't know why there you go guys Burned out bar second bar. I've done since I've been in Florida Well second bar. I've ever done period if you guys remember the other bar. I did I think I had mentioned in it It was the first bar ever did that old abandoned rundown one Now here's this place so hopefully nobody comes in and starts you know tearing up the the stage and all because That stage is really really cool really cool, and I hope they leave that alone, but Yeah, this place was awesome. We walked right through this door It was really really cool real nice in there too. I mean the place was awesome had like Kind of like a nautical theme to it again here I don't know what happened these but somebody probably stole them. They had wagon wheels hanging on the walls and There's the high chairs for the kids There's a barrel Barrelful monkeys monkeys always wanted a barrel like that. She wants me to get one and cut it in half and plant flowers in it and There's the other one very very nice. It was Yeah, we was here for a while and they just People just would pull right up. Like I said bartenders would go out and get take their order and get their food and their drinks They would eat so All right guys There's another one for you Hope the wind didn't bother you too much, but anyway so There's another bar. Well, what's left of the bar apparently a very hot fire, but no one was hurt. I Don't know think it burned when no one was here. I can't remember But yeah pretty cool so There you go guys another one for you She bear we're going to go try to find maybe do a vlog out the road here There's a little preserve back in there. So we're thinking about maybe doing a vlog back in there So I got monkey hooked up as you seen on another camera. So Thought maybe that would help her because I know it's helped me a lot having this this little tiny tripod Holding it like this it helps To go a little more smoother. Now, of course the camera. I'm using right now is running 60 frames per second. So at 1080p so it does pretty good for just a cheap Sony the other one is the one she's using just one of them I think I gave 90 bucks for it online and That's more information for you or look this up.   This place was built in 1957 It was closed for two years when the other person bought it and the person that bought it was actually a patron of This bar and ended up buying it for three hundred fifty thousand dollars sunk several thousand more dollars into it getting a backup and running A real estate agent and sleepy hollow patron bought the property in 2016 for three hundred fifty dollars three hundred fifty thousand dollars sunk another several thousand several hundred thousand dollars into it and reopened the bar to the delight of the community and the bikers and who enjoyed the iconic atmosphere And it's the with the popka aisles. It's near floral city But it all came down in Thuland Is the name of the owner? I believe is how you pronounce that th o l u n d if that's your name I'm sorry if I mispronounce it thuland Says temporarily on january 11th When fire destroyed the sleepy hollow resort Even as customers were enjoying drinks and karaoke They were open friday saturday and sunday. So the place was I mean everybody was here and uh She says she's going to rebuild And uh Hopefully by the first of the year No insurance. I think I said that She blames What happened here? It says Someone no one recognized who was in the bar that night with an unleashed dog That was bothering customers That's who she blames us on because A bartender told him to leave and that's the woman that was talking to us Asked him to leave And says he charged at her vowing to burn the place down. He says well, you know You've got to go well, she she asked him to take the dog out and he did and he come back and asked if he wanted To order something.   This was at like 11 30 When he come back, but it happened about 11 the incident A half hour later. She said fire broke out near the kitchen The state fire marshal's office considers the fire which started near a trash can suspicious So there was they found accelerant and stuff like that But again, it was it was uh once a fish camp Over time it became a popular hangout with food and outdoor live music And of course, you know, it's got some pictures here, which I You know, we have done the You know, you saw the video So she doesn't why she doesn't know why the previous owners closed it now But said it was gutted When felon bought it. Dolan said she put $500,000 into equipment and furnishings before opening in 2016 So Yeah, it's crazy After the fire a friend set up a go fund me campaign to help raise money to rebuild Setting the ambitious goal of $500,000 The target has since been reduced to 300,000 and as of friday has raised $370 Yeah, it says right here that she said the bar was not insured It's an old wooden building and you can't insure it that sucks She said the bar was insured during hurricane irma and she received a claim because of a 12 day power outage So it's kind of like a business interruption insurance Is what it would be Insurance premiums to protect against fire damage. She said would have exceeded her $2,000 monthly mortgage So that would that would have been just for the insurance You don't make that kind of money in these places. She said She's also marketing sleepy hollow online for sale. She said friday She's taking it off the market because she wants to rebuild instead So it was for sale and now she wants to rebuild it. So It's she said customers from across the country have offered to help with fundraisers. The bar has won At 3 p.m. Saturday while that's that's over with this was back in february when this was was posted. So She wants it reopened by november. So that would be nice and once it reopens If it does, I hope it does once it reopens. We'll come back here and we'll do another video so you can see the place And when they was interviewing her they interviewed her right here and took some pictures right here And it said 25 bikers rolled in there, you know and She wants to keep the place alive Just the time that we were here. There's actually like I said, uh Man and woman over here on their bikes They're sitting over there in the shade relaxing Right before I came in here I can't be on the middle of nowhere and I anyway Right before I came in here. There was like five bikers pulled in To come and you know to the establishment and it uh, it's closed, you know So hopefully it will reopen and uh, so that's the story on it So what I said earlier, hopefully you watch the end of this so you can get the true story But what I said earlier, I will put a caption Across the screen that way you'll you'll know to watch till the end if you want to know the the true story. So and If I can find it again, I'll put a link in the description Of this story you can read about it if you're from the area or just interested in it. So again Uh, thanks for watching shea bear 1000. I'm gone for now and uh, bye. Bye guys. You take care now


As Max mentioned, I basically read our APAC work around content regulation recently moved here from Brussels. So I have been working in Brussels for the last 11 years prior to coming to Singapore. So point of reference is pretty much very much around the European Union and did a lot of work around like the code of practices that existed there as well as working through the recent consultation around the Digital Services Act. So I really look forward to working with you when you're cheating on everyone else. So thank you. Thank you. I'm really happy to make your acquaintance. And I know ministry is super easy at the moment because it's a cold-bed situation and Taiwan's developing a lot of state solutions to that issue. So we will keep our conversation within like 30 minutes to 35 minutes. And at the moment you went on with Sam and Audrey when you were talking George and I and make with me and ourselves that feel free to pin us or to talk to us. We can turn on the video otherwise we'll be Sam and Audrey talking. And about 9.30, 9.35 or 9.40 that we will probably start to wrap up. So keep the conversation within like 30 minutes. So without further ado I'll pass it to Simon and for you to kick off. Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Tang. It's great to see you. It's been an eventful six months since we were on the APEC panel together in November last year. It's a pleasure to be with you again. I only wish it was in, you know, we were actually in person. And finally also the situation was rather better in both Singapore and Taiwan. So that we won't continue to be focused on the issues of public health and there is occupying a lot of your time. And I know we are going to talk a bit about regulation today but I'd be very happy to if you'd like as well just to talk a little bit about the COVID situation and the support that we have provided in partnership with the Taiwanese government. But there are other things that are on your mind that you'd like to share around that and where we might also be able to be found. But I'd love to hear that. Awesome. Thank you. Yeah, I remember your active collaboration leading up to our presidential election and MP election in order to have honest advertisements that's published in real time as an API for investigative journalists that really helped a lot to combat the infodemic. Well, we didn't call it infodemic back then but yeah, that's infodemic and enhance if not public health, public mental health. So thank you for the collaboration. You're welcome. Look, I know from experience of Singapore where we were feeling very much felt things were under control. Everything was returning to normal. We were somewhat behind Taiwan in that respect but I know that you're going through some difficult times right now with these spikes and also issues around vaccine kind of take-up, etc. Again, this is something that we're very active on across Asia as well as elsewhere in the world and working with national health authorities to address misinformation, to ensure people have good information about vaccines and other public health matters and also to help people find vaccines, etc. So again, if there are some things that during this conversation or in subsequent days where you think perhaps there's something you're aware of that we're doing elsewhere that might be helpful in Taiwan and then please let us know or if you continue to let us know about that. Okay, excellent. Yeah, I am currently working as Max has mentioned on the vaccine appointment system. We're looking at well not a spike now, right? Rather kind of flattened curve but it's not going down. So just a continuously flattened curve. And on the other hand, of course, that means that the vaccination is on top of everyone's mind. Back when I was vaccinated on the first dose in mid April, I had a very difficult time convincing my friends and family to get vaccinated. Well, we don't have that problem there. So I think that fear distribution and appointments is the only thing that's currently blocking us from achieving significant vaccine uptake that and of course the supply of vaccines. And so I wonder how Facebook have worked previously with other vaccine appointment systems either in the US or in other countries? Do you have like stories, anecdotes or some working models to share? Well, actually, as you may have seen just yesterday, we launched a partnership with the Hong Kong government on what's called Vaccine Finder. So what we could have to do after this call is just share some information with you about that. And if that seems like something that would be of interest that could be helpful. But also we can, Max can provide information about other partnerships we've done on the vaccine front. And you can see whether some of those might, one or more of those might be helpful for time. Why don't we do that after the call? Excellent. Thank you. Just go on and talk about the issue of regulation. Yes, which is a primary purpose for our call. I mean, look, it's when Mark Zuckerberg probably more than two years ago now said that we are in favor of regulation. We think it's not right for these big private companies to be making big decisions every day around where to draw the line on content online. And actually, we do think this is an important role for governments here. Frankly, the first, I would say almost 18 months after he made that declaration, really not that much happened. There was a lot of talk and not a lot of action. But what we've really seen in the last six to nine months is a lot more action. And now it's actually countries which are not looking to regulate the Internet are seem to be in a minority. And what we're seeing is just a real very big range of different actions. Obviously with Meg on the call, we have an expert at what's happening in Europe. And she I'm sure be happy to join our conversation if you've got some specific questions about that. But we also developed our thinking, particularly around what we talk about regulating, it's not just any kind of regulation clearly. We definitely think there are some regulations which are pretty bad are actually going to suppress freedom of expression, or are going to impose the wrong kind of obligations on platforms like ourselves, which will not enable the kind of openness that we appreciate about the Internet and not allow for connectivity and the sharing of ideas around the world. And frankly, also disrupt some of the fundamentals of how the Internet works. But what we of course want to do is work with governments that are keen on trying to find a balance between how we enable video expression, how we get the balance right between what are what should be the obligations of platforms, and what are the obligations of people using services like Facebook or Instagram, and our messenger services. And so I'm happy to talk a bit more about some of those principles, but I'd like to just understand where you're thinking is that in the thinking of fellow ministers around the future for content regulation in Taiwan? Certainly. So because of our rather successful, I would say, collaboration around honest advertisement, which we treat as de facto election campaign sponsored campaign expenditure, right? That was the framework. So we did not pass a election amendment act to regulate political and social cause speech on Facebook during our presidential election season. And I believe that success well qualified, but relative success led to more action around say our leading antivirus companies like Trend Micro now starts to offer counter disinformation services in addition to the counter scam and counter virus counter efficient services. A startup called who's call I believe also joined this work in addition to of course the Taiwan fact check center and Michael Penn, who you already understand have a partnership with Facebook. So what we're looking at is what I call a people public private partnership, where people the social sector take the lead to establish speech related norms and Facebook as a economic sector player basically adhere to such rules according to say the initiative about self regulation on disinformation that you have already signed in addition to PDT and other players and the government instead of passing any particular act simply publish how much and the norm is followed and abided by the economic sector players. So that was the model that we work rather successfully leading up to the presidential election. And that's my of course preferred approach if things do work. Minister Robinson also said that if this model works, then of course the legislator doesn't have to do a top down approach that you just alluded to. And so my interest is in keeping this people public private partnership model work in the emerging challenges around non-election related speech where referendum of course is coming, but there's many other things. Yes, well that's what I mean that the flexibility as well as the kind of multi party a multilateral approach to that is something that we are very supportive of. Because you know we've all seen examples and I guess the European cookie law is probably one of those prominent examples of regulations which however well-meaning because they are structured in a very technological specific way actually become rather self-defeating and just become an annoying feature of life online and don't actually help people necessarily understand issues around privacy and tracking and that kind of thing. So we're certainly in favour of flexibility, incentives for accountability I think is very important. So these issues around transparency and so the way in which the government you know effectively almost from the sound of it under your preferred model will effectively audit or require companies to report on how are they doing against these kind of codes that are coming out of public-private dialogue. I've seen you know absolutely we've seen that work very well in the European context around misinformation and the codes there and you know the transparency around that so that all sounds like a very positive area that we could be supportive of and indeed we can share with you and Minister Lo as well our experience of this in different parts of the world. I know that particular countries or regions that you're with Minister Lo looking at to see what can we learn from those. Well I don't know whether the oversight board is a jurisdiction but actually we do look at your oversight board to discover the ways of how to make it more transparent accountable. If not directly participatory I mean there's no jury in oversight board jurisdiction but I think the oversight board is quite transparent in its decisions and its workflow. The only issue that we found from the social sectors observations in Taiwan is that the throughput that is to say the timeliness really needs work that is to say when the result of the oversight board decision affects the algorithm or the parameters exactly how that's implemented and how soon it's implemented, implemented in what fashion people don't really have a way to see that and of course the inbound flow into the oversight board how the cases are selected and so on. These of course remains non-participatory so instead of pointing to another jurisdiction which you know may change by passing a new law overnight I would like to to explore how your preferred ideal world oversight board the both the inbound flow and outbound algorithmic processes and accountability and transparency would work in your ideal world. What we've not yet seen is examples of how the oversight boards work interacts with or will interact with different kind of regulatory arrangements in certain countries. We've always said the oversight board is not about how we respond to national laws around speech and so as you know we've got pretty well established processes now for taking in reports from governments where they believe there is speech on our platform which is locally unlawful and for us to review that and under the global network initiative framework and then in certain circumstances to geo-block content so we do have a mechanism doing that but the oversight board is very separate it's all about our standards and providing oversight around how we apply our community standards and also where we draw the line and obviously we've had the most recent example of that where the oversight board has you know said look you some of your approaches towards suspending people are seen rather arbitrary and you need to provide certainty and that was obviously in particular in respect of President Trump and you have seen hopefully our announcement around that last week but also in our new in our transparency center we also now as a result of the oversight boards and decisions we now provide more transparency around the nature of our strike system and what what are the sanctions we apply when people come to convene our terms and in particular the approach we take for very for people with a more prominent voice like a president or an ex-president so and as you know we also have an oversight board member from Taiwan Dr Catherine Chen I have no idea whether she was involved in her involvement in that decision and because these things are you know the oversight board doesn't say who's on what panels does it work but I'm sure we can share with you more you and colleagues more information about our early experience of working with the oversight board and and we perhaps could share some thoughts about how that could link to what happens within individual administrations yeah so a clarifying question I take that when you said these are separate processes you mean that a national geoblock or takedown is not subject to an oversight board appeal right but but I was more alluding the other way like a facebook content policy takedown whether it's subject to a national government appeal for the oversight board to to relic yes it could be I mean for instance I mean if there is a piece of content where we have acted on it and it involves that government then they could appeal about that and I mean we as I think we can dig out the details on this but we're primarily focused on if you have had a piece of content removed by facebook and just as you can appeal to the oversight board and as I understand that we don't allow third parties to appeal on behalf of even for a national government even for a national government so we you know we at the moment we generally have thought of these things as I mean they're clearly all part of an accountability framework I'm all part of as saying we don't think it's right that a private america multinational should be making all these decisions in a what can feel like an unaccountable way even if we're quite public about the decisions we make and that that was why we call for regulation but also why we've why we've developed the oversight board and and you're right when it came to appointing the members it wasn't a big public vote about that but now the oversight board appoints its own members so whereas facebook was you know had a process for the original appointments now the oversight board is has its own independent approach to how it replenishes its membership and and also it is independent in the cases that it takes on and both ones that facebook asked it to take on but also ones which were appealed by by users of the of the service okay I bring this up and you will see that I'm trying to get content reposted rather than taken down it is because we've witnessed that the fact checkers serve a important role as a contextualizing service but if it's taken down by facebook's machine learning bot detection or whatever other means then actually the fact checkers or other communities do not have any means to provide that contextualizing service and sometimes when applied incorrectly the machine learning based takedowns does not actually have a good appeal process for individual users and so in that moment if the national government or any other consumer protection authority do not step in then it actually provides a very good conspiracy theory thought that has to say it actually amplifies the polarization around this random arbitrary looking like takedown with no appeal process if you understand what I'm saying because this is not a individual to individual basis but rather a large net of related accounts misclassified as takedown potentials by machine learning and currently as consumer protection authority or as the national government we actually have no visibility into this and so even when people can provide evidence to fact checkers that they were being wrongfully taken down we'll have to ask them to individually take to the oversight board but the inbound flow is not managed now it's not very transparent and so that creates a kind of legitimacy pressure on both facebook and the consumer protection authorities it's a really good point and it's one of the reasons why we don't kind of we haven't just transferred all responsibility over to the oversight board part of the reason for having a large public policy team and obviously we have Max Chen for for Taiwan and obviously George is in charge of the the wider region and is that you know they are also there for if there are issues like this we should almost know where you there's a concerns of me maybe more systemic although we're giving some there's a there's something there's something going on here in terms of our machine learning or in terms of how we're interacting with our third party fact checkers then absolutely you and colleagues are hopefully bringing those to our attention and so that we can look into those separately from the other side board so we're not saying that yes it was the only place you can go if you think that was getting something wrong here and there are other channels both for government I mean to both for governments and for our trusted partners and for our third party fact checkers there are there are many routes in to Facebook but and I would hope that you in particular and your fellow ministers would always be willing to you know would be very quick to let us know if you think there's something that's so that there's not not getting right but generally it's not without third party fact checkers we are not taking content down and when they let us know that they think it's something is likely false we label it and we reduce this distribution and but it's still available on Facebook but the exceptional areas are ones where we think there may be a link to real world harm and that is particularly with respect to COVID where we we do some types of COVID misinformation we actually remove from Facebook rather than just apply the label because we're really concerned about misinformation leading to people either taking you know quack kind of remedies you know whether that's drinking bleach or something has some other kind of remedy or it leading to people you know not taking you know vaccines which have been kind of widely approved for for use and because of misinformation suggesting that helpful yeah but sorry to kind of drew down on this point in Taiwan we yeah we've had for example a disinformation that said that the Taipei and New Taipei cities will receive quote-unquote chemical army sprays to kill the virus and it's very toxic and things like that and of course it's debunked almost immediately by the Taiwan fact check sensor but I think I presume and from what we witnessed that's the kind of messages that you actually go to take down instead of going to notice and public notice but but what's the what's the mechanism to make such decisions so I mean I'm happy to provide more information after the court has explained how that works and to provide some examples what we done I'm not sure I mean it's obviously COVID based so it's according to your criteria it's entirely possible for Facebook to just classify it as a takedown rather than a public notice and in these cases right in these cases we actually a couple years ago now provided a concrete proposal via max to you that is to say a second party notice and public geo notice and and I believe that proposal was seriously considered but ultimately not implemented max probably know exactly what I'm talking about max yeah I can I can provide some insight into that so when we're talking about this info and harm we're talking about harms individuals are personal like harms we usually when there's no code to action to harm a person that we probably won't take action on those contents but we rely on the party fact checkers of course that is a policy evolving and we have seen some involvement involved evolution in surrounding that policy in the COVID COVID time and about your point on the labeling actually we are doing that so when you are posting contents about about vaccines for example in any language you'll have a label on that so that you can take a look at the COVID info center on platforms to find more information about vaccines so actually the approach to misinformation remained pretty much the same that removes reduce and form which we believe that informing informing our audience is to make sure that people have informed decision is the better keyword to the misinformation issue so if definitely I can provide more examples and if you follow up with you yeah but that's not geo labeling that's that's universal labeling right what I'm talking about is a very specific proposal instead of universal labeling like any vaccine related information in any languages receive a universal labeling that redirects to the vaccine center I'm talking about very specific proposal which is when a national government or competent authority notice something that warrants labeling they have a way into Facebook to mandate within the geo region such a government competent authority provided label on that class of information on that class of shared posts that is to say we don't call it fact checking because we are not journalists incompetent authorities we totally understand that but we also believe that there is a way to get the messages into the informed people and when we first talk about this proposal I think max's point was that the competent authorities were not trained in getting the right messages out in labeling or things like that using the central election commission as an example but I believe the situation have changed now and they are informed to provide pretty good labeling messages well actually we do have an example of this in our region and that's in Singapore where there is this false news group called POPMA which does result in effectively geo labeling and now as I understand it from you know from Max and from George this is something that the Taiwanese government looked at when Singapore government introduced that and you decided that wasn't the right way to go in terms of regulating for this and but you know very happy to have a kind of some follow-up dialogue at this and just to share with you our experience of POPMA and to think about is there is there something else here that could help or when there are situations like that. My original proposal was not a law to enact POPMA what I'm looking at is a protocol similar to the self-regulation protocol that Facebook have signed around political and social advertisements that is to say it is also designed to be multi-party when we made that proposal without resorting to a law which would be something like POPMA but I mean if the you know protocol level the rough consensus level which is more flexible and more fair and more easy for civil society to get involved doesn't work out then of course we are continuously looking at POPMA in the legislature chamber but because I'm in the administration so I'm more interested in a non-POPMA act way to introduce auditable accountable form of geo labeling but if you think a law is required to do that then of course the MPs will have to consider that. I think what we should do is share with you our experience of the covid information hub which is when people are either looking for information about covid or they are they particularly maybe are something that they might be looking at a something which is being debunked then we will often we will have been directed to the covid information centre that is obviously providing official information either from WHO I'm sure from and Taiwan's case from the local from the national health authority and and so you know so there are ways in which we ensure that people get locally relevant information about covid and whenever they are kind of in contact with information about covid generally on facebook as well as sometimes we will do things where everybody irrespective of whether they've been looking at covid related information will get a notice about hey here's the latest information on you know who's eligible for vaccines in in your where you live so there are a number of different ways we do this and we can share with you a kind of comprehensive digest of that and some of our experience around the world of what's really worked because I was certainly wasn't suggesting that you should go down the same route as popular there's all kinds of issues that come out of that but it is the closest example I've seen of specific geo-labeling on specific pieces of content but each each time it's used it also creates some controversy yeah definitely and I'm not saying that the government should be the only party to communicate this to to facebook that the good thing about a multi-party or multi-stakeholder protocol is that we can carve out community accepted ways for third party that's are sometimes more trusted again than governments to either vet or contribute to such public notices great well I'm very conscious of your time and I know you're very busy but I just want to reiterate that as your thinking develops we we're very much welcome being part of different forums that you might bring together particularly forums with the public and to talk about how can we address these understandable concerns that people have about both the how we support freedom especially but also how we help people have the best possible experiences as citizens online and so I hope that you continue this really fruitful dialogue and you're always very constructively challenging about our approach to things which I really appreciate thank you I think we're therefore able to wrap up is that right Maxie you're going to finish to a conclusion thank you very much I'm going to conclusion I think that's we have a really concluding conversation and definitely I will continue to follow up with your team and there are a lot of action items that we we take note of and I'll definitely follow up with Francis for this meeting if George and Meg can turn on the video and we can have a quick a quick shot of the the meeting so that we can have the record of it and okay great thank you very much so now it's my own hey George you're okay that's wonderful oh I dropped some of your pride as well I feel bad now I should have thought about that well um well then I agree Francis are you going to just take one Francis me you want me to do it okay one second okay the fruits uh thank you guys uh and thank you man for a good time and I know you're super easy and we'll follow up with the facts and pointers and other uh like solutions that we provide to the other markets um probably will be useful for Taiwan as well and make has prepared a lot of materials for our continued work in Taiwan surrounding counter regulations we're working with NCC and with Minnesota law's office actual assembly so we have another meeting with Minnesota law on the 22nd which will deliver that we can also share our top of mind ideas about how we we can work with Taiwan because Taiwan is definitely unique in this region in that aspect so thank you again and thank you Simon for your time and this is for coordinating this thank you again thank you and I'll post a conversation with only my side of video but with all of your voices to YouTube as I believe previously communicated okay so thank you so thank you and looking forward to continued discussion bye live long and prosper


Hi, my name is Noah and I have a weird obsession with government memos, sort of like my favorite literary genre. I love reading them because the world is an unclassifiable place, but the people that write these memos have to try to classify it anyway, and the results get weird. You get these sort of like classification oddities, these regulatory platypuses. This comes up especially often in tax policy, so you'll get a case like a state where a Snickers bar is taxable, but a KitKat bar is tax-free because a Snickers counts as candy, but a KitKat bar has flour in it, so it counts as a baked good instead. In California, there was a case in 1950 with the Board of Equalization that's maybe the least appetizing court document you'll ever read. It's about whether a sausage casing should be considered a food or a container. Don't think about it too much. Here's another one. If your child is kidnapped, can you still claim them as a dependent on your federal tax return? It was someone's job to figure this out, and now publication 501 of the IRS has an entire section on it with a three-part test that you'd have to meet. My favorite government memo of all time is from the state of Wisconsin. It's about ice cream cake, and whether it is a cake or ice cream. This memo is 1500 words long. It contains 10 different hypothetical ice cream cake scenarios that it walks you through. But I recently learned that in my new home state of New York, there's a special tax category for sandwiches, so this meant, of course, that somewhere there was a memo defining the official New York definition of a sandwich, so I had to find it. I found it. It's tax bulletin 835, I think. It has a long list of examples, things like BLTs and club sandwiches and paninis, but also some kind of questionable inclusions like euros and hot dogs and buttered bagels. It includes open-faced sandwiches, which strikes me as really dangerously broad. We're just going to call any piece of bread with stuff on top of it, a sandwich. Should we be considering a slice of pizza and open-faced grilled cheese? It seems like a dangerous path, but the thing that actually this is not the most troubling. The other thing in there is that burritos are on the list. And I know in my heart that burritos do not belong on this list, right? But I had trouble articulating why, and it kind of led me to a lot of soul-searching about what is the essence of sandwichness? What is it that really defines a sandwich? Is it stacked layers? Is it about it being open rather than enclosed? Does it need to involve two slices of bread? For that matter, does it need to involve bread at all? If you want to get Talmudic about it, there's the Hillel sandwich that's eaten on Passover, which uses matza. There's the ice cream sandwich. Is that a sandwich in name only? I don't know if KFC still makes it, but there's also the double down, which strikes me as very sandwich-like. So I have spent a lot of time lately thinking about sandwich hypotheticals in case that wasn't clear. But for the burrito issue, we actually don't have to be hypothetical. There's some case law on this from right here in Massachusetts. So in 2006, a Panera bread signed a lease in a shopping center in Shrewsbury with a clause that basically said no competing sandwich shop would be allowed into the mall while they were there. A Qdoba Mexican grill moved in, and Panera sued their landlord and argued that they sold sandwiches. The Spirit Court judge ruled emphatically that a burrito is not a sandwich. And what I want to draw your attention to is that the defense case included testimony from three expert witnesses. There were three sandwich experts, like the Boston chef, who said, I know of no chef or culinary historian who would call a burrito a sandwich. The notion would be absurd. There was a food writer for the Boston Herald who said, nobody would say that they are going to the burrito shop to get a sandwich, or conversely, that they were going to the sandwich shop to get a burrito. I have to agree. The star witness was the former deputy director of the food standards and labeling division of the USDA, who pointed out that while the USDA regulates burritos, it doesn't even have jurisdiction over sandwiches. So there are actually two separate regulatory frameworks. The FDA handles sandwiches. So it seems like there's an emerging expert consensus, and that New York may be sort of out of step with it. I filed a freedom of information request for the New York State Department of Taxation and Finance, and I hope to get some more clarity on this, but it's still pending. So in the meantime, I will leave you with an argument that I find oddly persuasive, which is the torta defense. And the torta defense states that if a burrito were a sandwich, it would be a torta. And a burrito is not a torta. Ergo, a burrito cannot be a sandwich. Thanks.


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Hi, I'm Mary Harrell for Tan Books. Catholic parents have lots of resources today for telling their children about the lives of the saints. But what about the saints who won the crown of martyrdom, often showing near impossible levels of courage in the face of torture and really awful violence? Those stories can be a bit tougher to share. One such saint is Saint Philomena, a beautiful 13-year-old girl who defied the Roman emperor Diocletian and was ultimately martyred because of it. And Tan Books is excited to be releasing a beautiful new picture book about her life. Check out a little sneak peek. Well, you saw it right there. The book is My Name is Philomena and its author and illustrator is here with us today. Father Peregrine, Fletcher's gonna tell us more about it. Father Peregrine, thanks for being here. Thank you, Mary. It's an honor and a joy to be here with you and to have published this book with Tan. So thank you for having me. Father, is it a bit surreal to see your book here in a video trailer like that, that it's a real thing now that you can hold in your hands? I can't tell you how surreal it is. That's really the right word, Mary. Because for the last 10 years, I've been working on the book on my own here in the monastery cell, wherever I've been sent on assignment from the Abbey. So it's always just been sitting around with me here in this room or wherever I've been, and to see it out just on display for whoever would like to see it or read it, it's amazing. I can't imagine, that's a wonderful feeling, I'm sure. Yes. Father, you are a Norbertine father. You've been down with the Norbertines in Southern California, I think about 10 years now. Before we dive into the book, tell me how you ended up without order of priests. I think you're from the Midwest, right? That's exactly right. I was born and raised in St. Louis, Missouri, my beloved hometown, and really I wanted to do God's will, and that's very broad, and to make it more specific, I really sensed a call in my late teenage years to the priesthood, and I started out in my discernment process, considering diocesan priesthood, and I studied at a local diocesan seminary, Kendrick Glennon Seminary in St. Louis, a very excellent seminary, and I was there for a long time for six and a half years, and eventually felt that there was something else that God was calling me to, although I loved my experience there, and that ended up being the religious life after working with my spiritual director and visiting various monasteries. I discovered St. Michael's Abbey when I arrived here. I just knew it was home, so I decided I was going to give it a shot and at least try it out, and 10 years later, I'm still here, so praise the Lord. It's stuck, something stuck, you were there. Something stuck. That's it. Father, you are the master of novices for the Norbertines, and they are a thriving order, so I can't imagine you are bored by any extent of the imagination. Right, how did you find time then to write this book, illustrate it, find a publisher, all those things? That's a really good question, and well, I think because I started out this project really in my earliest years, in my earliest days here at the Abbey, because I started so long ago and I didn't give myself any timeline at all. I just said I'm going to write and illustrate this book about a saint whom I love, and we'll see where it goes, when it goes. And so I worked on it when I was a novice, and then I became a junior professed, meaning I took my first vows and lived under vows, and then later on renewed those vows and eventually made my solemn profession of vows and then was ordained a priest. In the course of these 10 years of my time as a Norbert team, I've just been periodically, when I can, writing or sketching and drawing, so I just fit it in, in between our prayers, and when the bell would ring, I would put down my colored pencils, put down the text, and I would join the brothers in prayer. So it was very piecemeal. See, this is where it helps to not have an Instagram account, because I just scroll in those times. Right, it was very, my earliest years of being in the novitiate, the novices are all very detached from social media, so that they can really dive deep into the spiritual life, into the history of our order, and that gives a very unique environment. It also really fosters a creativity. The distractions are gone, and so you can really see what's going on inside, and what do I want to do for God?  So not knowing where it would, not knowing I would be sitting here and having an interview about it, it's just amazing, but that was the origin of it all. Father, let's talk about the order, because St. Philomena and the Norbertines, this is not some random coincidence that you picked her for your picture book. So tell us about the relationship and why she's special to you and them. Yeah, well, that's a really good question too. St. Philomena was not a Norbertine saint. She is an ancient saint predating the Norbertine order by centuries, but here at St. Michael's Abbey, I discovered that many of the Norbertines just had a strong devotion to her, as many people in the church do. So there isn't a really obvious connection between St. Norbert and St. Philomena, except to say that the Norbertines, whom I met, loved her and were devoted to her, and I took up that devotion because I saw it was very fruitful in their lives. It's beautiful. And Father, to then pivot over to the saint at hand here, she has a really incredible drawn-out martyrdom. She was essentially, from reading your book, I learned, tortured more or less for a month. She then offered, the Blessed Mother came to her, told her that she would have these three days, and then she would meet our Lord. And in these three days were really the bulk of the legend around her death. And there's a lot of, there's violence and there's blood. How did you go about the process of depicting that, drawing it and writing it for an audience of children? Yes. That was, the scenes revolving around her torture were definitely the scenes that were the hardest conceptually to design. And so I found that it was something I needed to take to prayer. How to really share, I wanted to share with everyone through this book, but especially children because there haven't been too many children's stories about books about her. But I realized that I needed to do that with sensitivity and carefulness and gentleness. So I just prayed with the various scenes of her torture, very often in the actual illustrations, we're seeing St. Philomena before the torment or after the torment. And yes, and here is, this is a good example. So we're seeing that St. Philomena is being led into the prison cell there in Rome. And that was under the command of the Emperor Diocletian. So at many times in these scenes, you're seeing St. Philomena entering into the suffering. And then on occasion, you might see her during the suffering and after. Here is a good example up on the screen right now of St. Philomena being healed after a great torture. And the angels we hear from the private revelations regarding her story, the angels came and healed her as our lady promised that they would. So our lady told St. Philomena that she would suffer but that there would be help all along the way. So the angels would come and rescue her from being thrown into the Tiber. So St. Philomena became this great hero and it's really important to show the suffering in some way that is also sensitive to the fact that these are children. In this image, you have St. Philomena in the midst of a suffering here in the Tiber. And what is she doing, but she's praying. And I think this is really important. The saints show us examples of prayer and how the Lord will, He will share with us His own sufferings. And He's very united to us in our sufferings and we can use our sufferings as the very atmosphere of prayer. So I wanted to somehow communicate to whoever's reading this book. And if it happens to be a child that it's okay that we suffer, that the saints suffer in the end they are victorious and they will suffer no more. So I had just had to pray with each image and decide the right way to do it. And frankly, I don't know if I was perfectly successful in every image, but I definitely tried to evoke her story with authenticity and gentleness. Well, and I would say maybe the most successful place you've done this so obviously, but with such tender care is that image of St. Philomena at the Scourging Pillar with our Lord on the other side. What a powerful image of showing that she was suffering just in the same way as our Lord. And really I see in the book her martyrdom and her suffering had parallels to our Lord's passion. Absolutely. And this is one of the things that we learned about St. Philaminas sufferings that because she was being tortured for her commitment to Jesus for who was her spouse, Diocletian made sure that her torments were related to him. So this one in particular, Diocletian said that he would order her to be scourged like Jesus was scourged. And so this image I came up with after I was thinking how can I depict that awful scene? Well, I thought our Lord has to be a part of this somehow and it just became clear that there's a kind of mirror. You used the word parallel here and I think it's true in this case too that there's a parallel between Christ's sufferings and St. Philomena's suffering. So obviously these are two scenes that happen in two different times in history. And yet there's something in the very moment of St. Philomena's suffering that brought Christ's sufferings to her. And that's true with all of us too. So hopefully when someone reads this book and sees this image they'll realize, oh, for my suffering too, I can see Christ in a mirror here and not just in a mirror but reaching through that mirror and connecting to me. And so my suffering takes on a value and a worth that maybe we didn't see before. Well, and not just our Lord being in this book but the Blessed Mother is there as well. And there's another beautiful parallel that I think children will certainly catch. Maybe adults would miss it but children would see. In one image, the Blessed Mother, her halo or her crown is made of butterflies and that imagery repeated on at the end of the book. Tell us about that. Sure. Well, this is a butterfly here in the very end of the book. And this relates to the crowning of, the crown of our lady that the image that happens earlier on in the book. Right here it is. And it can kind of be hard to see in this but you see the butterfly there. To see the full thing, you'll have to actually, you'll have to see the book or get that. And but you see that our lady is crowned in this way. And for me, this is very special because when I was illustrating this image, I was looking out my window and I'm from a monastery cell and that season in California at that time there was many butterflies. It must have been a butterfly migration which happens periodically. And I just thought, oh, that is so beautiful. And I was designing her crown. And I thought, what if I just, instead of giving her a typical golden crown, I gave her a crown of butterflies. And it happened to be that I was doing that on the feast of the coronation of our lady on August the 22nd. And it was when I see that image and I see other images, I see a lot of just the local region, the circumstances of my life here at the Abbey of what's going on around me. And they kind of made their way into the book. And there you see the little red butterfly descending. And the red butterfly is representative of the martyrdom and that was going to be coming St. Philomena's way. Each butterfly has a different color and the image of butterflies in Christian symbolism often evoke the resurrection. So this red butterfly with the color symbolizing blood, symbolizing martyrdom was approaching St. Philomena but so was the resurrection which follows that martyrdom. So in a way, it's an unusual image. In a lot of ways it's an unusual book. And so I'm asking the reader to also enter into some of the mysteries of her life but also some of the circumstances of just the life here at the Abbey. So kind of an unusual project. Father tell us about the cover of the book, that image that was used on the cover and is the book, the symbols that she's pictured with there why you put her in the moonlight in that way, on the water. Well, so St. Philomena, I didn't, this was the very last image that I did. And that was not my plan to have this in the book at all. I finished the book, I finished all of the images. And I just when I was, I was, what was I doing? I was searching online one day and came across this image of a person standing on the waterfront and the light was so beautiful. And I just realized to myself, I said, I think I need an image of St. Philomena standing on the water, the light hitting the water. She who was, you know, was threatening to be thrown into the water. She's here standing victorious above it. And oftentimes we see, we think of heaven as this great shore and this, and God's endless ocean, the sea of mercy. And I wanted it to be this, the end of the book is the beginning of St. Philomena's life in heaven in so many ways. And we see her here depicted with this anchor, which was supposed to submerge her into the water and kill her. And actually for St. Philomena becomes this great symbol of hope. And she's rescued from this. In fact, she's holding onto the anchor as though she's in charge of this. You can't submerge her, you can't keep her down. That's the story of the saints. And you also have not just this anchor meant for the water, but you have this arrow that is lit with fire. And it was this fiery arrow that was meant to be also St. Philomena's destruction where she was supposed to die with flaming arrows being, you know, heralded her. And neither of them, neither of the anchor or the arrows killed her. And it shows that she has a power with God. And so I wanted both of these symbols to be there with St. Philomena standing victorious on the water. They're standing in the light of God. Can picture no greater image for a young Catholic girl to be reading this book and to see this in her? I hope that those young girls will really see in her this model of virtue and a virtue that they can access when they pray to St. Philomena. I mean, my prayer is that this will be an impetus not just to, you know, read and learn about her but to establish a beautiful relationship with this heavenly saint who is real, who is watching over us in this cloud of witnesses with which the scriptures talk about. And she's a powerful saint. So I think you're right on there, Mary. Father, congratulations just on this beautiful project. I'm so happy for you that this came to fruition and happy for all the readers who will read it. Thank you for joining us today. Again, the book is My Name is Philomena. You can find it here on tanbooks.com or at your local Catholic bookstore.  Thank you so much. Thank you, Mary. God bless. Take care.


Rwy'n dechrau'n mowr gwyb bod gynrych gyda'u tanfaen, Sorry for the moment that you've been waiting for But before I announce the names of the teams that will be going into the final round I'd like to say how impressed I am with all of you And you've put me to shame I'll have to go and start studying again I was so impressed with all your knowledge and I can gradually all getting your So a big round of applause to yourselves Do not be disappointed if you are not one of the teams going forward because I say you all did terribly well. I am pleased to announce that the two teams going into the final round are drum roll. Excellent, excellent. Cymru Park. I think that was the teacher. Where is Cymru Park? Stand up, Cymru Park. And St Leonard's. There we are. All the teams are now displayed the screen behind me in alphabetical order by school so you can see how you've done. And while that's happening can I ask the finalists to make the way to the seats of the front row of the chamber so we can begin the killer final round? Waiting for the scores to be sorted out, there's technology for you and we'll put them on at the end. Can we do that? Whoever's counting things up. Now the final round. Breathe deeply. The round has 20 questions. The first 10 questions alternate between the two teams. If a team answers correctly they win the point. If a team answers incorrectly the question will be passed to the other team for a possible bonus point. That will be followed by 10 buzzer questions. I'll monitor the amount of time allowed to answer the questions to ensure fairness and Graham Blyth will keep the scores. Please choose a speaker for your team is going to give the answer.  That's so that a recording team can find you. If I call you to speak please use the microphone. It will help everyone to hear your answer properly. Are you both ready? I didn't hear you. Are you ready? Yes.  Just checking. Question 1. I'll go to Cymru part 1. Just checking. This is the first time I've done this just like you. Which country is bordered by Germany, Poland, Slovakia and Austria? Nope. St Leonard's. Czech Republic? Yes. St Leonard's. The agency lies between Greece and which other country? Turkey? Yes. Team A. Minsk is the capital city of which European country? Belarus. Yes. The capital of which European country? Sorry. It's all right, we know it works now. Ukraine? Yes. Luka Modric is a footballer from which European country? That's Cymru park. Indeed. St Leonard's. What is the nationality of tennis player Caroline? Oh I forgot how to pronounce that. Vazniacchi? No. She's Danish. Correct, Cymru park. Cymru park, your question. Which British mathematician and physicist discovered gravity? Isaac Newton. Yes. St Leonard's. Who wrote the tale of Squirrell-Nutkin and the Taylor of Gloucester? Squirrell-Nutkin and the Taylor of Gloucester. I'm going to pass it over. No, Cymru park. Beatrix Potter. Yes. Back to Cymru park. Which Germanic people set up kingdoms in Italy and Spain in the Middle Ages? Goths. Yes. St Leonard's. Which Viking people first settled in France then conquered England in 1066? The Normans. Yes. There we are. The buzzer questions. Each question will be answered by the first team to buzz, so it's buzzers first, as we know. There is no conferring once the buzzer has been pressed. This is like university challenge, isn't it? A correct answer wins the point. If the answer is incorrect, the question will be passed to the other team for a possible bonus point. That team may confer. There is no conferring once the buzzer has been pressed. When you come up with the answer, you get the wrong answer. It can be passed to the other team, and they can confer. I've always wanted to say this. Practice your buzzers first. Let's see if they all work. Thank you. Is somebody's buzzer not working? Let me do them individually. Just a wee minute. I'll tell you what, no point in doing it all together. Let's see you press them in order. You start with your buzzer and see if it works. Next. Press. The light has to go off. Yes, right. Next one. That's it. Wait for the light to go off. See if they all work. Can't have any mistakes at this stage. That's you next. It's St Leonard's. The waiting. Different colour. Let's forget the questions. Let's just play with the buzzers. Fingers on buzzers. I've always wanted to say that. Ready? What is the capital of the southernmost Baltic state? Yes, St Leonard's. Pallon. No. You may now confirm. Vilnius. It is indeed. What is the nationality of Formula One driver, Sebastian Bechel? He's German. He is. Don't need to wait until the end of the question if you know it. Press your buzzer. What is the name of the fastest ever commercial passenger plane? Concord. Correct. Who invented television? No. I felt like saying penalty but there's no penalties. Pass it to Cymru Park. John Logeybeard. I was a bit of a dispute about that but we'll accept it. In which mountain range would you find Mount Elbrus? Russia. No, the Caucasus Mountains. I'll take that, I guess. The Caucasus Mountains. Next one. Which country won the 2017 Six Nations Rugby Tournament? Press that. Hesitation. No, I'm going to pass it. England. Yes. Cathy Leveranta, who manages the company that created the Angry Birds game, is from which country? Finland. Finland is correct. What is the nationality of the singer, Christine and the Queens? Yes. How did you know that? That's fair. Which city is the Atominium situated? Brussels. Yes. What is the name of the river that flows through Warsaw and Krakow? The Vestula. It is. That's the end of that round. I'm waiting for the results. Is this microphone on? Yes, excellent. We'll now present the prizes to the top three teams. It's a pleasure to invite Sir David Edward, patron of the Scottish European Educational Trust, to join me to present the medals and the trophy. Sir David will say a few words. Before I present the medals, I've just got a question whether you agree with something. The drummer in Louis Armstrong's band was called Barrett Deems, and he was asked what he thought about Europe, and he said that they should clean it up, paint it and sell it. Do you agree with that? You do. Right. First of all, I would like particularly to thank Jane Byers, Madeline McGurk, who have worked for Scottish European Educational Trust, really very, very vigorously to lay this on, and also the person who set the questions, who unfortunately isn't here to be with us, Kara Ross.  So if you're not going to clean up, paint it and sell it, go and travel. And the one important thing in your life is have fun, because there's no point in life if you don't have fun. So, let's now read them out. Right. Right, because you're going to present the prizes. Yes. Right, here we are. In third place, Sheens. Do you come forward? Let's put this round your neck.  Yes, okay. And we'll get a little picture. Thank you. You want us over here? Here we are. Here we are. Well done, well done. In second place, drumroll, St Leonard's. Well done. I wonder where you were going. Paddy. You're lovely. Lovely, shiny cake. There you are. Well done. Paddy, cadw i'r ddod. In first place, drumroll, Cymly Park. Well done. Just in case he gets lost. Well done, well done. Well done. Thank you for that. Was it you teaching him? Yes. Was it you teaching him? Who's going to take it? Who's going to take it? Who's going to take it? I think a boy and a girl, she told it. We have to give equality. Right. And you two call it a girl. There we are. Now you want to thank Sir David Edward for presenting the prizes please. I hope you've enjoyed yourself. You've certainly made the Parliament a lot more interesting than it usually is when I'm sitting up there. Don't tell the MSPs that. I'd now like you to ask John Mulgrew to come to lectern to do a brief note of thanks. After that, what I would say to you is this, that we will then be able to then go into the garden lobby, all of us, where we'll have a big group picture with everybody who's taken part today. John. Thank you, Deputy Presiding Officer. You've actually just answered the question I was going to ask. Is there any difference between chairing this event and the normal meeting of the Parliament? They're not looking for an answer. They're much better behaved. Excellent. I want to thank Christine. She's been a first-class chair today, and it's quite a brief to somebody. It's a very busy life. Yes, thank you. We're delighted, Deputy Presiding Officer, that this is the ninth year in succession that we've been able to use the Parliament building, which makes it for us all, and particularly for the young people who have come and had a tour of Parliament today. So thank you to you and your colleagues for that. Graham Blyth from the European Commission has done an excellent job today. I think I'm going to recommend them to the BBC for one of these quiz programmes that seem to keep popping up. But the European Commission has been very, very supportive of us, and in fact, without the European Commission's support, this year, this wouldn't have taken place. So, Graham, thank you very much for your contribution this afternoon. I just wanted to mention the Ganachy Trust, another Scottish Trust fund, which financially has helped us, Education Scotland, students from Harriet Watts University who did the language recordings, the local authority colleagues who organised the 31 local heats across Scotland. That's some task. And also the Parliament events team and broadcasting team and the European Parliament, along with the European Commission, has been responsible for donating gift bag materials. Thank you to them. Thank you to all of you for coming. I hope you've enjoyed the afternoon and we look forward to seeing you next year. Thank you. Now, as I said, you can join me on the steps of the garden lobby for a photograph, so in an orderly fashion make your way to the back. Sit down again. I love doing that. Please make your way to the back, chamber, when ready an event assistance will assist you to the garden lobby.  Perhaps if we could start with the people at the back moving out first, so we're not all in a one. So just make your way out from the back and then do it by rows. Okay? Now the next row go out. The second row go out as well. I'll go to the back. I see your scores are up. If you want to stop just a minute and look at your scores, I didn't realise that we're on the display board. So you can see your scores. These can be sent to your school as well. So if you want to start leaving the chamber now, please, that would be excellent.


So far, we've learned a lot about costs and why proper classification is important. Product costs need to be classified separately from period costs because of the difference in timing of when those costs become expenses and where those expenses are reported on the income statement. We've also learned that by refining our overhead allocation, we can calculate more accurate product costs. Doing so allows managers to make more informed decisions about pricing, margin, sales mix, and a product line expansion or discontinuance. In this module, we will look at additional ways to classify costs and how those classifications, mainly between variable and fixed costs, impact management decisions. Furthermore, we will gain an understanding of cost behavior in relationship to production volumes. Maintaining cost behaviors help managers forecast total manufacturing costs at various levels of production volume, determine break-even volume, and predict volume to achieve various operating income targets to name a few. In reality, there are so many ways cost behaviors impact management decisions that the list is just too long and overwhelming to show. The ones shown on this image are just the few covered in this module.