In news edition, I'm Penisa Levine, coming to you live from Tel Aviv Day 37 of the war, a war that started on the 7th of October with a Hamas terror onslaught in southern Israel in which 1,400 people were slaughtered. 239 people remain in captivity in Gaza abducted by the terror group on that day. Today in the north, sirens sounding in the western Galilee near the coastline just moments ago. A short while ago, Hezbollah claiming responsibility for an anti-tank guided missile attack from Lebanon. Several civilians wounded near the northern community of Dovev, the Israeli military, responding right now. In Gaza itself, heavy fighting inside the strip, close to the Shifa hospital, a crucial landmark as it's located above the Hamas terror command center in northern Gaza. Thousands of Palestinian civilians making use of the humanitarian corridor to flee to the southern parts of the Gaza Strip. In southern Israel, sirens sounding in recent hours, warning of incoming rocket fire from Gaza towards several Israeli communities, including Nahal Oz and Sufa. And that's where we start. We go live to our correspondent, Zach Anders. He's in southern Israel right now. Those sirens sounding in southern communities a little earlier, what is the latest where you are? What update can you share, Zach? Well, we're hearing that those were intercepted and that there were no injuries in these earlier rocket launches throughout the day. Remarkable that we're reaching into the late 30s of days of this war and Hamas is still capable of firing upon Israel. Security officials have told me that the majority of these launch sites now in the last few days are coming from the southern Gaza Strip. And perhaps that speaks to the operations in the northern Gaza Strip and the IDF activity in that area. And certainly that activity continues at this hour. Zach, we also know 239 hostages could be hidden in underground tunnels in the Gaza Strip. A Biden administration official speaking to American media about a possible deal for a hostage exchange. What is known? What can you share? And that's that's a remarkable development here, especially given yesterday, the open source flight tracking capabilities were able to see a Israeli plane leave Qatar land in Tel Aviv and then continue on its way to Cairo where suspected Hamas officials were also into Cairo. So perhaps there has been some sort of breakthrough in these negotiations with this movement in the last 24 hours. Of course, the Biden administration has been pushing for some sort of hostage release that could entail the women and children. So that would not be all the hostages, but this sounds like at least the communication that we've heard from the administration in the last week or so has made it clear that the women and children are the first point, the tip of the spear of these negotiations. And while we hear these reports of potential negotiations, of course, that heavy fighting continues inside Gaza, close to the Shefa Hospital, which is of course located above that terror command center of Hamas. What more is known about the fighting underway right now? Well, I can tell you that some of the pictures that have been authenticated from around the hospital coming from Israeli soldiers are showing quite a bit of activity and movement in that area. Some of the photographs show the old Palestinian parliament building that obviously has been defunct for some time, but it has been able to locate that the amount of troop movement around Al Shefa Hospital is quite remarkable at this point. And it does show that there has been quite a level of engagement around the hospital. Now, of course, Hamas has not been releasing any of their figures for their losses, so we don't know how heavy the fighting has been or what the toll has been on either side. Thank you so much. We will be coming back to our correspondent Zach Anders in Southern Israel for more regular updates for now. Thank you, Zach. Meanwhile, since the start of the IDF retaliatory ground invasion 42 Israeli soldiers have been killed. The IDF saying a significant number of troops continue to fight in Gaza City's Al Shatti Camp, adding that in one incident, troops from the Givati Brigade identified civilians in a building and helped them evacuate. But during the evacuation, Hamas attackers opened fire at the soldiers. The troops responding and the Hamas gunmen were killed, so the civilians continued evacuating the area, separately a strong message of support from the IDF Chief of Staff from above. Lieutenant General Herzi Halevi flying over the Gaza Strip to view the military's ground operation and to speak with forces over the radio. So for more, we welcome to studio retired Colonel Amit Assa, former member of the Israeli Security Agency. Thank you so much as always for being here. Day 37 and developments on all fronts. I want to start those specifically with what we just heard from Zach, my colleague in southern Israel, and the developments inside Gaza. What do you make of the pace at which IDF troops are nearing Shifa Hospital, which is of course located on top of the Terror Command Center of Hamas? I think Shifa is just a symbol, okay? We know that the commander is on the ground at the Shifa, and everybody knows about it because of the evidence that we brought. And we have a problem, I think, at the outside of Israel, at the community, the American community and the Europe community, they have to push more about what happens in Shifa, because we have evidence now of people from Shifa, from the staff of Shifa healthcare, that Hamas is taking all the medicine from people that need it inside Shifa. So it makes the picture very clear Hamas is controlling Shifa Hospital and IDF have to bring down this massive place down without any casualties, of course, from the civilians inside. And it's very, very difficult to do it, and it's complicated. And I think it will be very clear in a few hours or days what will happen there. Complicated indeed. Stay with us. We've got more to discuss. But right now, let's check in with what is happening in the north. Correspondent Mary McAuliffe joins us from northern Israel. And Mary over and above siren sounding in parts of the western Galilee just a short while ago, Hezbollah claiming responsibility for sending that anti-tank missile from Lebanon towards the Dovev area in the north. What update can you share? That's right, Benita. So as you said, Hezbollah said it was behind that attack that hit these civilians. At least six were wounded. One is in serious condition in a hospital here in the north. Another one is in hospital, but is said to now be in lightly injured condition. Hezbollah saying that it struck a group of soldiers when in reality those who were injured were those who were working for the electrical company in the area and were in a vehicle traveling. They're very near to the border where they're trying to repair some power lines at the time that they were hit. Since then, the IDF said it has responded to the source of the attack where they believe this transpired inside southern Lebanon, attacking those launches that they believe sent those mortars and anti-tank missiles across the border. But since then, we've also had a different incident also with another anti-tank missile that reportedly injured four along the border. We do not yet have a statement from the IDF confirming anybody was injured in those strikes if they're soldiers that will probably be information that will remain under censorship. But still, we have seen the IDF responding harshly using airstrikes as well as artillery firing to target not just where it says was the source of these attacks of these mortars and missile attacks into Israeli community, but also targeting a number of different infrastructure belonging to Hezbollah inside southern Lebanon. So Mary, how do all these incidents you're describing right now fit into the message sent from Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah when he made that address on Saturday? Well, we've definitely absolutely seen escalation in the past few days. Number of attacks today certainly suggests an escalation here by the number of anti-tank missiles that have been fired across the border. This we've seen for some time over the past few weeks, but we haven't seen as many successes from Hezbollah able to actually hit targets inside. So the number of injured today certainly suggests an escalation. What we did hear from Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah yesterday, once again claiming that their forces are actively involved as this war in this operation with Gaza goes along. They say that they have been supporting the troops in that way, supporting Hamas, supporting all of the Palestinian cause by continuing to make sure that Israeli forces are on high alert here in the north. They have claimed that to be a success for now. But whether they will take that a step further and escalate even further to all out war, all signs that we've seen up until now certainly doesn't seem to suggest that Hezbollah either is ready or willing to go for that. But we know the messages have been coming out very harshly both from the Israeli leadership warning Hezbollah against further attacks, especially on civilians, but also from other diplomats in the region, notably of course also the United States who has been working around the clock to try and prevent the situation from spiraling out of control. Thank you so much, correspondent Mary McAuliffe, live from Northern Israel. Stay safe, Mary. And still in studio, retired Colonel Amit Asayotek, Amit on the threats that is happening up north and the recurrent messages from the Hezbollah chief and then the action, which may not exactly be in sync. We're on the red lines. I think Nasrallah is playing a very dangerous play. From one hand we know that he needs to show the Hamas and the Arab world that he's doing something for this war. From another hand, he knows that if he will pass the red line, the red line of, of course, the history of defense, Garland said, when he asked, when do we know, when we will know that Hezbollah passed this red line? So we said, if we will bomb Beirut, you will know. So Hezbollah is playing now a very risky play. I think in a few days we will see more escalating and more offensive work from, or plans to do from the IDF because they will strike first. Something we certainly will be watching out for Amit. Stay with us. We've got more to discuss. But something you alluded to a little bit earlier is the response out of the international community. And French President Emmanuel Macron called his Israeli counterpart, Isaac Herzog, earlier today to clarify and partially walk back comments he made in an interview with the BBC on Friday. Those comments sparked concern and anger in Israel as senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Ultiman tells us they were also seen as a signal of rising international pressure on Israel. Let's take a look. De facto, today civilians are bombed. De facto, these babies, these ladies, these old people are bombed and killed. There is no reason for that and no legitimacy. Just three weeks ago, French President Emmanuel Macron landed in Israel with a message of warm solidarity. But for him, times have changed. His passage seen as a marker of a wider ramping up of international pressure on Israel. Look, in the very first days, it's clear that the emotion, the compassion created the situation where everybody was just close to Israel. But I think there is no justification precisely to attack civilians. Macron's stark language is seen as a milestone, a European power coming out for a full ceasefire and attacking Israel's position on the war. Raising fears among Israelis that the war may end with Hamas still in power in parts of the Gaza Strip. The war against Hamas-ISIS is progressing in full force and has one goal, to win. There is no substitute for winning. We will eliminate Hamas and we will return our abductees. Protests have grown, as here in London on Saturday. And the prevailing view in Israel is that the sand is flowing through the diplomatic hourglass, while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu digs in his heels, setting up the clash that many say is to come. And still in studio, retired Colonel Amit Asa, former member of the Israeli Security Agency. And we also welcome Glenn Jostelson and Glenn. We're going to be talking to you in a short while, but first we're going to go to Amit because you alluded to it a little bit earlier. And that is the pressure that Israel is facing in the international arena, particularly in Europe, particularly in the US. And that matters right now. Talk to us about the impact of the rhetoric abroad and how it is impacting the way Israel is conducting its operations. Look, I don't think that Israel is conducting the operation according to what's happening in the world, but it's another place that Israeli politicians have to work parallel to the RDF successes. So we have to understand that somebody have to put on the table the place that Israel is playing a role of what the West needs to do all over. So this war is not just Israeli war. We are talking about radical Islamic all over the world. And we can see the raising up of the radical Islamic moving the people out the street, all the Islamic people out the street because of the radical Islamic, when they are support, so called Palestinian, they're supporting terror. That's the name for it. And people in the world have to see it, have to see the difference between achieving something that they want to achieve as a terrorist or putting themselves doing something for the Palestinian humanitarian. It's a very, very important thing to see when we are talking about the community, the outside. To that point, how surprised are you at the scale of the demonstrations against Israel at all these centers around the globe, the number of people coming out in support of the Palestinians, but not civilians supporting Hamas and what Hamas is doing. And there is an important distinction there, obviously. Yes, so it's not surprising me. People at the world have to understand again that this kind of support actually they say for the Palestinian, but it's not support of the Palestinians, support of terror and radical Islam. It's another thing. And people at the world have to know the line that nobody have to cross it. When you support now the war of the Palestinian, you support the terror. That's what everybody have to understand. If you go to the street and raise the flag of the Palestinian now, it's not just for Palestinian. It's for the war of the Hamas against what we say Israel and what we say all the time, anti-Semitism all over the world by the radical Islam. And let's stay with us. We're going to discuss much more on the security front, but right now we are changing gears slightly as we move to a creative artistic initiative here in Israel. And it's a pleasure to welcome to studio Glenn Josselsen, a contemporary artist. He's joining us here right now. Glenn, thank you very much for being here. Lovely to be here. There have been so many initiatives since this war started in support of course of the 239 hostages who are still after more than five weeks being held hostage by the terror group and in support of the communities who have been evacuated to other places while this war unfolds. Talk to us about your initiative. So lovely to be here, Benita. Thanks for having me. So the art of giving is an initiative. It's a collaboration with one family. They are an NGO in Israel that support victims of terror. They rehabilitate them and help them to get back into society. And I've created as you can see my dances. It's my signature style of art. I'm a contemporary artist. And I've created these artist works, these beautiful pieces to signify hope, peace, resilience and unity. And I'm basically raising funds to facilitate charity, which one family will then redirect to these people, these victims of terror. And certainly one family must have a huge amount of people needing help, additional help. How exactly does it work? People who are watching want to be involved, want to make a difference. How can they get involved in this initiative and support it? Sure. So with regards to my initiative, Benita, I'm offering my art online, Glenn Jostelson.com, which is my website, where I'm going to be selling my artworks, the prints, to raise the charity for this initiative. I'm also auctioning artworks too. With regards to one family, people can volunteer. People need to get in touch with them. I'm sure you will post their web details. So they would need to get in touch with them that way. With regards to my cause, people can share it on social media, word of mouth, whatever they want to do to get it out there. I'd love them to help me with regards to that. It's so important while we are obviously discussing on a daily basis, the security situation unfolding, also the stories of resilience and of unity and people getting involved to try and do something to help communities in need. What is your sense of the outpouring of support right now in the country briefly? So I'm from South Africa. I've been in Israel a year now. I made Aliyah in December, almost a year. And I can honestly tell you that the way Israel has come together, the solidarity, the unity, the way the Israelis have come together to help one another has just been so awe-inspiring. I'm just so overwhelmed with it and I'm so glad to be part of it. And I'm doing my bit to show that I care and that I want to help as well. It's my input. So I'm excited to be there. Thank you so much. And as we keep saying, it's so important, people who are getting involved in the initiatives helping people in need right now. Genn Joselson, thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me. Thank you. And now as we go back to the unfolding security situation, we take a deeper look at the tensions across the northern border. Amidst that tough rhetoric we were discussing earlier in the broadcast from Hezbollah inside Lebanon and also from Israel. Our Senior Defence Correspondent Jonathan Regev has more in this report. Sunday's anti-tank strike on the Israel-Lebanon border. This is what Hezbollah is looking to achieve. He thinks Israelis on the border fence, knowing that the Israeli response will also remain on the border, but not beyond. The second front in the north has been active since day one of Israel's war with Hamas, but still with the certain mutual understandings. The fighting takes place almost entirely on the border area and not beyond. Most of the targets hit by Hezbollah are military and not civilian. And Israel does not strike too deep inside Lebanon, but looks mostly for Hezbollah targets on the border. Will this continue to be the case as the campaign in Gaza continues, and Hamas is eventually toppled? No one really knows. Hezbollah is dragging Lebanon into a war that may happen. What we are now doing in Gaza, we can also do in Beirut, and therefore I hope that Hezbollah will act appropriately, and Hassan Nasrallah will not provoke us, because his aggression is unacceptable to us. At least on the ground, the Hezbollah leader is sending the message he's not impressed. In recent days, we have witnessed a new wave of threats from the Israeli leadership. They are concerned from what is happening on our front in terms of quantity, quality and depth. Of course, we will continue in this position and this performance. Hezbollah had various chances to expand the war but chose not to. That is why the cautious assumption in Israel is that the situation on the Lebanon border will not escalate into a full-on war. Is that good news? Not necessarily. We must not agree to keep the situation as it is. We have a national obligation to eradicate Hezbollah, as we are now doing with Hamas in the south. The state must act the same way here in the north. The streets are empty in the evacuated northern border communities, with the residents returned. Once the war is over, knowing that Hezbollah is just across the fence and the terrible images seen in the Gaza border could repeat themselves here, a very serious question which for the moment does not have an answer. And still in the studio, retired Colonel Amit Assad, former member of the Israeli Security Agency. So Amit, I want to unpack the message that happened from IDF Chief of Staff Herzi HaLevi. He went above and sent a message. And when I say above, he was flying over the Gaza Strip to view the military's ground operation and to speak with forces on the ground, forces who are fighting as we speak. I want to take a listen to his message and then hear your thoughts. Let's take a listen. Message of support from Herzi HaLevi, but not only a message to soldiers on the ground, also a message potentially to Hamas, your take? Yes, I think morally. And it's more to the Hamas years. Know that we are not breaking. We are all over the place of Gaza to find you out. And we will be with a patient step-by-step to move you out of Gaza. This is the small message that we can hear for the Hamas. True is very truly words for our troops, because we know that the troops are there for a long time now. And they need the support. And if some kind of saying is coming up from the leader of the army, it's very important also for the troops. You say you know that soldiers are there for a long time. And obviously, it's anybody's guess what that means. But realistically, give us a sense, your take when you hear about what's happening across from southern Lebanon, when you hear what's happening right now in the Gaza Strip, when we know that an eye is being kept on the West Bank, not to mention Yemen and Syria as well. Your sense of how long this war could potentially last. Look, from the first day, you know how you start. And we didn't start this war. So at the beginning, you know how you are moving your steps step-by-step. But we don't know really how it will be ended and how long it will be. If you are asking my estimation, as we can see at the north, it's an escalating. And it's not dependent on us and dependent on what Riz Bala will do. Escalating in the West Bank also will lead us to more actions there. So we can never know. Ritair Colonel, I met us, a former member of the Israeli security agency. Appreciate your insight and thank you so much as always for being here in studio. And that is where we wrap up for now for this Breaking News Edition. I'm Benita Levine. Thank you for watching. Stay tuned. Israel is in a state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where is she. As our soldiers are fighting on the front line, but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well. News 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra, espadas de hierro. 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In Gaza itself, heavy fighting inside the strip, close to the Shifa hospital, a crucial landmark as it's located above the Hamas terror command center in northern Gaza. Thousands of Palestinian civilians making use of the humanitarian corridor to flee to the southern parts of the Gaza Strip. In southern Israel sirens sounding in recent hours, warning of incoming rocket fire from Gaza towards several Israeli communities including Nakhal Oz and Sufa. And that's where we start. We go live to our correspondent, Zach Anders. He's in southern Israel right now. Those sirens sounding in southern communities a little earlier, what is the latest where you are? What update can you share, Zach? Well, we're hearing that those were intercepted and that there were no injuries in these earlier rocket launches throughout the day. Remarkable that we're reaching into the late 30s of days of this war and Hamas is still capable of firing upon Israel. Security officials have told me that the majority of these launch sites now in the last few days are coming from the southern Gaza Strip. And perhaps that speaks to the operations in the northern Gaza Strip and the IDF activity in that area. And certainly that activity continues at this hour. Zach, we also know 239 hostages could be hidden in underground tunnels in the Gaza Strip. A Biden administration official speaking to American media about a possible deal for a hostage exchange. What is known? What can you share? And that's a remarkable development here, especially given yesterday, the open source flight tracking capabilities we're able to see a Israeli plane leave Qatar land in Tel Aviv and then continue on its way to Cairo where suspected Hamas officials were also into Cairo. So perhaps there has been some sort of breakthrough in these negotiations with this movement in the last 24 hours. Of course, the Biden administration has been pushing for some sort of hostage release that could entail the women and children. So that would not be all the hostages, but this sounds like at least the communication that we've heard from the administration in the last week or so has made it clear that the women and children are the first point, the tip of the spear of these negotiations. And while we hear these reports of potential negotiations, of course, that heavy fighting continues inside Gaza, close to the Shifa Hospital, which is of course located above that terror command center of Hamas. What more is known about the fighting underway right now? Well, I can tell you that some of the pictures that have been authenticated from around the hospital coming from Israeli soldiers are showing quite a bit of activity and movement in that area. Some of the photographs show the old Palestinian parliament building that obviously has been defunct for some time, but it has been able to locate that the amount of troop movement around Al Shifa Hospital is quite remarkable at this point. And it does show that there has been quite a level of engagement around the hospital. Now, of course, Hamas has not been releasing any of their figures for their losses. So we don't know how heavy the fighting has been or what the toll has been on either side. Thank you so much. We will be coming back to our correspondent, Zach Anders in southern Israel for more regular updates for now. Thank you, Zach. Meanwhile, since the start of the IDF retaliatory ground invasion 42 Israeli soldiers have been killed, the IDF saying a significant number of troops continued to fight in Gaza City's Al Shatti camp, adding that in one incident, troops from the Givati Brigade identified civilians in a building and helped them evacuate. But during the evacuation, Hamas attackers opened fire at the soldiers. The troops responding and the Hamas gunmen were killed. So the civilians continued evacuating the area, separately a strong message of support from the IDF Chief of Staff from above. Lieutenant General Herzi Halavi flying over the Gaza Strip to view the military's ground operation and to speak with forces over the radio. So for more, we welcome to studio retired Colonel Amit Assa, former member of the Israeli Security Agency. Thank you so much as always for being here. Day 37 and developments on all fronts. I want to start those specifically with what we just heard from Zach, my colleague in southern Israel and the developments inside Gaza. What do you make of the pace at which IDF troops are nearing Shifa Hospital, which is of course located on top of the terror command center of Hamas? I think Shifa is just a symbol. We know that the commander is on the ground under the Shifa and everybody knows about it because of the evidence that we brought. And we have a problem, I think, at the outside of Israel, at the community, the American community and the Europe community. They have to push more about what happens in Shifa because we have evidence now of people from Shifa, from the staff of Shifa healthcare that Hamas is taking all the medicine from people that needs it inside Shifa. So it makes the picture very clear how Hamas is controlling Shifa Hospital and IDF have to bring down this massive place down without any casualties, of course, from the civilians inside. And it's very, very difficult to do it. And it's complicated. And I think it will be very clear in a few hours or days what will happen there. Complicated indeed. Stay with us. We've got more to discuss. But right now, let's check in with what is happening in the north. Correspondent Mary McAuliffe joins us from northern Israel. And Mary over and above, siren sounding in parts of the western Galilee just a short while ago, claiming responsibility for sending that anti-tank missile from Lebanon towards the Dovev area in the north. What update can you share? That's right, Benita. So as you said, Hezbollah said it was behind that attack that hit these civilians. At least six were wounded. One is in serious condition in a hospital here in the north. Another one is in hospital. But it said to now be in lightly injured condition. Hezbollah saying that it struck a group of soldiers when in reality those who were injured were those who were working for the electrical company in the area and were in a vehicle traveling. They're very near to the border where they're trying to repair some power lines at the time that they were hit. Since then, the IDF said it has responded to the source of the attack where they believe this transpired inside southern Lebanon, attacking those launches that they believe sent those mortars and anti-tank missiles across the border. But since then, we've also had a different incident also with another anti-tank missile that reportedly injured four along the border. We do not yet have a statement from the IDF confirming anybody was injured in those strikes if they're soldiers that will probably be information that will remain under censorship. But still, we have seen the IDF responding harshly using air strikes as well as artillery firing to target not just where it says was the source of these attacks, of these mortars and missile attacks into Israeli community but also targeting a number of different infrastructure belonging to Hezbollah inside southern Lebanon. So Mary, how do all these incidents you're describing right now fit into the message sent from Hezbollah chief Qassan Nasrallah when he made that address on Saturday? Well, we've definitely absolutely seen escalation in the past two days. The number of attacks today certainly suggests an escalation here by the number of anti-tank missiles that have been fired across the border. This we've seen for some time over the past few weeks, but we haven't seen as many successes from Hezbollah able to actually hit targets inside. So the number of injured today certainly suggests an escalation. What we did hear from Hezbollah chief Qassan Nasrallah yesterday, once again claiming that their forces are actively involved as this war and this operation with Gaza goes along. They say that they have been supporting the troops in that way, supporting Hamas, supporting all of the Palestinian cause by continuing to make sure that Israeli forces are on high alert here in the north. They have claimed that to be a success for now. But whether they will take that a step further and escalate even further to all out war, all signs that we've seen up until now certainly doesn't seem to suggest that Hezbollah either is ready or willing to go for that. But we know the messages have been coming out very harshly, both from the Israeli leadership warning Hezbollah against further attacks, especially on civilians, but also from other diplomats in the region, notably, of course, also the United States who has been working around the clock to try and prevent the situation from spiraling out of control. Thank you so much, correspondent Mary Makaulev, live from northern Israel. Stay safe, Mary. And still in studio, retired Colonel Amit Asayoutek, Amit on the threats that is happening up north and the recurrent messages from the Hezbollah chief and then the action, which may not exactly be in sync. Where are the red lines? I think Nasrallah is playing a very dangerous play. From one hand, we know that he needs to show the Hamas and the Arab world that he's doing something for this war. From another hand, he knows that if he will pass the red line, the red line of, of course, the history of defense Gallant said when he asked, when do we know, when we will know that Hezbollah passed this red line? So we said, if we will bomb Beirut, you will know. So Hezbollah is playing now a very risky play. I think in a few days, we will see more escalating and more offensive work from or plans to do from the IDF because they will strike first. Something we certainly will be watching out for Amit. Stay with us. We've got more to discuss, but something you alluded to a little bit earlier is the response out of the international community and French president Emmanuel Macron called his Israeli counterpart, Isaac Herzog, earlier today to clarify and partially walk back comments he made in an interview with the BBC on Friday. Those comments sparked concern and anger in Israel as senior diplomatic correspondent Owen Ultiman tells us they were also seen as a signal of rising international pressure on Israel. Let's take a look. De facto, today civilians are bombed. De facto, these babies, these ladies, all people are bombed and killed. There is no reason for that and no legitimacy. Just three weeks ago, French president Emmanuel Macron landed in Israel with a message of warm solidarity. But for him, times have changed. His passage seen as a marker of a wider ramping up of international pressure on Israel. Look, in the very first days, it's clear that the emotion, the compassion created the situation where everybody was just close to Israel. But I think there is no justification precisely to attack civilians. Macron's stark language is seen as a milestone, a European power coming out for a full ceasefire and attacking Israel's position on the war, raising fears among Israelis that the war may end with Hamas still in power in parts of the Gaza Strip. The war against Hamas ISIS is progressing in full force and has one goal, to win. There is no substitute for winning. We will eliminate Hamas and we will return our abductees. Protests have grown as here in London on Saturday. And the prevailing view in Israel is that the sand is flowing through the diplomatic hourglass. While Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu digs in his heels, setting up the clash that many say is to come. And still in studio, retired Colonel Amit Assa, former member of the Israeli Security Agency. And we also welcome Glenn Jostelson and Glenn. We're going to be talking to you in a short while. But first, we're going to go to Amit because you alluded to it a little bit earlier. And that is the pressure that Israel is facing in the international arena, particularly in Europe, particularly in the US. And that matters right now. Talk to us about the impact of the rhetoric abroad and how it is impacting the way Israel is conducting its operations. Look, I don't think that Israel is conducting the operation according to what's happening in the world, but it's another place that Israeli politicians have to work parallel to the IDF successes. So we have to understand that somebody have to put on the table the place that Israel is playing a role of what the West needs to do all over. So this world is not just Israeli war. We are talking about radical Islamic all over the world. And we can see the raising up of the radical Islamic moving the people out the street. All the Islamic people out the street because of the radical Islamic. When they support so-called Palestinian, they're supporting terror. That's the name for it. And people in the world have to see it, have to see the difference between achieving something that they want to achieve as a terrorist or putting themselves doing something for the Palestinian humanitarian. It's a very important thing to see when we are talking about the community, the outside. To that point, how surprised are you at the scale of the demonstrations against Israel at all these centers around the globe? The number of people coming out in support of the Palestinians, but not civilians supporting Hamas and what Hamas is doing. And there is an important distinction there, obviously. Yes. So it's not surprising me. People at the world have to understand again that this kind of support, actually, they say for the Palestinian, but it's not support of the Palestinians, support of terror and radical Islam. It's another thing. And people at the world have to know the line that nobody has to cross it. When you support now the war of the Palestinian, you support the terror. That's what everybody has to understand. If you go to the street and raise the flag of the Palestinian now, it's not just for Palestinian. It's for the war of the Hamas against what we say Israel and what we say all the time, anti-Semitism all over the world by the radical Islam. And let's stay with us. We're going to discuss much more on the security front. But right now, we are changing gears slightly as we move to a creative artistic initiative here in Israel. And it's a pleasure to welcome to studio Glenn Josselsen, a contemporary artist. He's joining us here right now. Glenn, thank you very much for being here. Lovely to be here. There have been so many initiatives since this war started in support, of course, of the 239 hostages who are still, after more than five weeks, being held hostage by the terror group and in support of the communities who have been evacuated to other places while this war unfolds. Talk to us about your initiative. So lovely to be here, Benita. Thanks for having me. So the Art of Giving is an initiative. It's a collaboration with one family. They are an NGO in Israel that support victims of terror. They rehabilitate them and help them to get back into society. And I've created, as you can see, my dancers. It's my signature style of art. I'm a contemporary artist. And I've created these artist works, these beautiful pieces to signify hope, peace, resilience, and unity. And I'm basically raising funds to facilitate charity, which one family will then redirect to these people, these victims of terror. And certainly one family must have a huge amount of people needing help, additional help. How exactly does it work? People who are watching want to be involved, want to make a difference. How can they get involved in this initiative and support it? Sure. So with regards to my initiative, Benita, I'm offering my art online, glengostlson.com, which is my website, where I'm going to be selling my artworks to the Prince to raise the charity for this initiative. I'm also auctioning artworks too. With regards to one family, people can volunteer. People need to get in touch with them. I'm sure you will post their web details. So they would need to get in touch with them that way. With regards to my cause, people can share it on social media, word of mouth, whatever they want to do to get it out there. I'd love them to help me with regards to that. It's so important, while we are obviously discussing on a daily basis the security situation unfolding also these stories of resilience and of unity and people getting involved to try and do something to help communities in need. What is your sense of the outpouring of support right now in the country briefly? So I'm from South Africa. I've been in Israel a year now. I made Aliyah in December, almost a year. And I can honestly tell you that the way Israel has come together, the solidarity, the unity, the way the Israelis have come together to help one another, has just been so awe-inspiring. I'm just so overwhelmed with it and I'm so glad to be part of it. And I'm doing my bit to show that I care and that I want to help as well. It's my input, so I'm excited to be there. Thank you so much. And as we keep saying, it's so important, people who are getting involved in the initiatives helping people in need right now. Glenn Jocelson, thank you so much for being here. Thanks for having me here. Thank you. And now as we go back to the unfolding security situation, we take a deeper look at the tensions across the northern border. Amidst that tough rhetoric we were discussing earlier in the broadcast from Hezbollah inside Lebanon and also from Israel, our senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev has more in this report. Sunday's anti-tank strike on the Israel-Lebanon border. This is what Hezbollah is looking to achieve. He thinks Israel is on the border fence, knowing that the Israeli response will also remain on the border, but not beyond. The second front in the north has been active since day one of Israel's war with Hamas, but still with the certain mutual understandings. The fighting takes place almost entirely on the border area and not beyond. Most of the targets hit by Hezbollah are military and not civilian, and Israel does not strike too deep inside Lebanon but looks mostly for Hezbollah targets on the border. Will this continue to be the case as the campaign in Gaza continues and Hamas is eventually toppled? No one really knows. Hezbollah is dragging Lebanon into a war that may happen. What we are now doing in Gaza, we can also do in Beirut, and therefore I hope that Hezbollah will act appropriately, and Hassan Nasrallah will not provoke us because his aggression is unacceptable to us. At least on the ground, the Hezbollah leader is sending the message he's not impressed. In recent days, we have witnessed a new wave of threats from the Israeli leadership. They are concerned from what is happening on our front in terms of quantity, quality, and depth. Of course, we will continue in this position and this performance. Hezbollah had various chances to expand the war but chose not to. That is why the cautious assumption in Israel is that the situation on the Lebanon border will not escalate into a full-on war. Is that good news? Not necessarily. We must not agree to keep the situation as it is. We have a national obligation to eradicate Hezbollah, as we are now doing with Hamas in the south. The state must act the same way here in the north. The streets are empty in the evacuated northern border communities. Will the residents return once the war is over knowing that Hezbollah is just across the fence and the terrible images seen in the Gaza border could repeat themselves here? A very serious question which for the moment does not have an answer. And still in studio, retired Colonel Amit Assa, former member of the Israeli security agency. So Amit, I want to unpack the message that happened from IDF Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi. He went above and sent a message. And when I say above, he was flying over the Gaza Strip to view the military's ground operation and to speak with forces on the ground, forces who are fighting as we speak. I want to take a listen to his message and then hear your thoughts. Let's take a listen. A message of support from Herzi Halevi, but not only a message to soldiers on the ground, also a message potentially to Hamas, your take. Yes, I think morally and it's more to the Hamas years. Know that we are not breaking. We are all over the place of Gaza to find you out. And we will be with the patient step by step to move you out of Gaza. This is the small message that we can hear for the Hamas. True is very truly words for our troops because we know that the troops are there for a long time now. And they need the support. And if some kind of saying is coming up from the leader of the army, it's very important also for the troops. You say you know that soldiers are there for a long time. And obviously it's anybody's guess what that means. But realistically, give us a sense, your take when you hear about what's happening across from southern Lebanon, when you hear what's happening right now in the Gaza Strip, when we know that an eye has been kept on the West Bank, not to mention Yemen and Syria as well. Your sense of how long this war could potentially last? Look, from the first day, you know how you start. And we didn't start this war. So at the beginning, you know how you are moving your steps step by step. But we don't know really how it will be ended and how long it will be. If you are asking my estimation, as we can see at the north, it's an escalating. And it's not depend on us and depend on what Riz Bala will do. Escalating in the West Bank also will lead us to more actions there. So we can never know. Retired colonel, I met us, a former member of the Israeli security agency. Appreciate your insight. And thank you so much as always for being here in studio. And that is where we wrap up for now for this Breaking News Edition. I'm Benita Levine. Thank you for watching. Stay tuned. Israel is at war. Make an investment in Israel bonds. It is the most powerful and direct way to stand with Israel. Visit israelbonds.com and invest now. Recargas.altis.com.co.selection to recharge and digit the number you want to place the recharge. Also, they receive the double balance in charges of eight dollars or more. A state of war. Families completely done down in their beds. We have no idea where we see as our soldiers are fighting on the front line. But the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well. Breaking News Edition. I'm Benita Levine coming to you live from Tel Aviv. We start with news just in the IDF confirming that 15 projectiles have been launched from southern Lebanon towards Israeli territory in the past hour. Siren sounding in the Western Galilee near the coastline, including in Akkor just a short while ago. In recent hours, Hezbollah claiming responsibility for an anti-tank guided missile attack from Lebanon, several civilians wounded near the community of Dovev, the Israeli military responding. In Gaza, heavy fighting inside the strip, close to the Shifa hospital, a crucial landmark as it's located above the Hamas Terror Command Center in northern Gaza. Thousands of Palestinian civilians making use of the humanitarian corridor to flee to the southern parts of the Gaza Strip. In southern Israel, siren sounding moments ago in the Kerim Shalom area, warning of incoming rocket fire from Gaza towards Israeli communities. Day 37 of the war, a war that started on the 7th of October with a Hamas terror onslaught in southern Israel in which 1,400 people were slaughtered. 239 people remain in captivity in Gaza abducted by the terror group on that day. So for more, we welcome to studio Dr. David Shimoni, commander at the Commanders for Israel Security and Avi Pazner, former Israeli ambassador to France and Italy and former world chairman of Karen Hayes-Saud, the United Israel Appeal. Gentlemen, thank you both so much for being here in studio. Dr. Shimoni, I'm going to start with you because there are developments right now on several fronts. Anti-tank missiles sent from southern Lebanon towards Israel, civilians have been hurt. Rocket fire coming from Gaza into Israeli communities, no one hurt siren sounding several times over the course of the afternoon and of course, troops inside the Gaza Strip getting closer and closer to Shifa Hospital, which is located above the terror command center. Your assessment of what is unfolding all at once? Well, I'll start with the north. We're seeing a gradual escalation of hostilities in the north, but it's gradual and it's very limited. So, yes, unfortunately, a precise anti-tank missile hit a group of civilian workers and they have people who were badly hurt. And we have now about 15 rockets that were fired, by the way, by Hamas, they claim, not by Chizballah, to the western gallery. We don't see yet a big major offensive in the north, nor by Chizballah, neither by the IDF. It's getting worse all the time. It intensifies. We see that Israeli forces, our air force, are hitting further north into Lebanon with greater force, but it's still not the big war. And I think for the time being, both Israel and Chizballah are trying to play a very delicate game of challenging each other, but still maintaining some kind of restraint over the amount of power that is used and the damage that we can inflict on each other. In Gaza, the situation is terrible for the civilians who remained in the city of Gaza, but in the past two or three days, we've seen a large volume of civilians escaping, which means that they got the message. It took a long time to deliver the message that being in the city of Gaza is dangerous. We do not want to harm civilians, and many, many of them now escape. Also, that means that the grip that Hamas officials and military forces had on the population is reduced. So, because, for example, yesterday, we heard about a Chizballah terrorist, a Hamas terrorist, who held about 1,000 Gaza civilians and didn't permit them to cross to the south, but he was hit and killed. Staggering to think that it is Hamas stopping civilians from leaving and getting to safety. Yes, because that's their strategy. They hide behind civilians. That's what is making our fighting in Gaza very difficult, and of course, I'm sure the ambassador will be able to address it more better than me, but public opinion is turning against us seeing the scenes of the destruction in Gaza. That is something we're going to unpack in more detail shortly, but right now, gentlemen, stay with us. We're going to go to our correspondent, Mary Makalov. She joins us from northern Israel and Mary. Those sirens sounding in the western Galilee earlier and just a short while ago in Akko as well. Bring us up to speed. What is the latest there? That's right, Benidas. We can bring those sirens in Akko in this area. Some of these sirens ringing out in further south areas, pretty far from the border. Those were rockets that were fired from inside southern Lebanese territory into Israel. The IDF said that four were intercepted and the rest fell into open areas. We don't have any reports of injuries or casualties or damage yet coming from those. We do know that Hamas, the Lebanese branch of Hamas, has taken responsibility for these rockets being fired, tying it to the ongoing operation inside Gaza. But throughout the day, we've had a number of different incidents here on the border. Sirens often ringing out, especially in these communities that are really lying on the border, and most of these sirens that were caused or either caused by anti-tank missiles fired across the border or from the sounds of mortars that were triggering these sirens. We know the IDF is actively responding with artillery. We can hear some of the sounds of that artillery from where we are here. The IDF is also conducting a number of different airstrikes. And it comes as we had a number of different injuries throughout the day caused by these anti-tank missiles that Hezbollah has been using to launch across the border towards these Israeli areas that are really next to the border. So inside northern Israel, at least 10 have been injured. At least one is in critical condition from that. And the IDF is now confirming that seven soldiers were injured from a similar anti-tank missile attack that struck their unit, but saying all of those injuries were lightly injured. And this coming a day after Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah was speaking out, he had a tough message for the United States and Israel, but still not saying that Hezbollah is fully involved in the fighting. Bring us up to speed on his messaging. That's right. Well, Nasrallah's message, what we heard yesterday is also a similar message that we heard a week ago when he delivered his first remarks since the beginning of this war broke out. But they say for their part that Hezbollah is actively engaged with this fighting, whether or not that's going to turn into an all-out war. Continuing to say that that lies on Israel, also blaming the Americans, but saying that they're very closely watching what's happening inside the Gaza Strip. They're watching Israel's invasion take place. What's happening there? And also what's happening in southern Lebanon with Israel responding to a number of different strikes targeting Hezbollah terror infrastructure inside southern Lebanon, but also just artillery shelling the number of different areas that they've also put the onus on Israel saying that they're watching carefully that if they're going to be civilian deaths and if Israel escalates the situation any further, that will mean it's a step for them to go even further into this all-out war. For now, though, Hezbollah does seem to seem pretty content with keeping the situation. It is launching these attacks across the border, but today they had a number of different successes by injuring a number of different people in two separate incidents, both soldiers and civilians alike. So whether or not this is a sign that Hezbollah now, despite what Nasrallah said yesterday, is taking the decision to step up this war, we still have to wait to see exactly what unfolds here. But I can just tell you, this area is definitely on high alert. Stay safe, correspondent Mary Makalov, live from northern Israel. Thank you for the update, Mary. And still in studio, Dr. David Shimourny and Ambassador Avi Pazner. And Avi, I'd like your take on exactly what we just heard there from Mary, the concerns around what is transpiring up north. Another speech from Hassan Nasrallah waiting Israel to hear if he's going to get fully involved or not. But however it's described, we are seeing more and more escalations, provocations, whatever you want to describe them as happening across the northern front and civilians have been hurt. You're absolutely right. After every speech of Nasrallah, we see an escalation, a limited, I must say, limited escalation. But it hurts. Today, we had several people wounded. There were also people killed last week. And we have to be here very conscious of the fact that more important than the speeches of Nasrallah, we have to measure what's going on in the on the ground and to see where this escalation is leading us. Because the moment of an escalation, it's upward. And here, sometimes, they are very, very gentile line that if you cross them, you get into another round. So for the time being, we have been able to maintain the fire under control, if I can say so. But we have to take into consideration that without prior warning, Nasrallah can change the rule of the game. We have been surprised one on the 7th of October, even though now we are pretty much confident we have matters in hand. And yes, we are doing a good job. There are about 70 or 80 terrorists from Hezbollah who have been killed since the beginning of this campaign. The IDF is doing a good job. But let's not take Nasrallah for granted. It can change policy from one day to the other. Dr. Shemoni, I want to turn our focus to what is happening right now in the Gaza Strip. Not only are troops getting closer and closer to Shifa Hospital, which again is located above the terror command center of Hamas, complicating, fighting, no doubt. But over and above that, the hearts of the nation waiting for word on the 239 hostages held in captivity somewhere across the Gaza Strip and now reports of a possible deal. And I say reports because it was a Biden administration official speaking to American media already refuted on Reuters as well. But how would a prisoner exchange, if true, impact the way Hamas deals in terms of its fighting strategy? It gives the time to regroup your thoughts. Well, first of all, we're talking about a hostage negotiation process. So there's a lot of disinformation and misinformation. And we don't know anything and we will not know anything until we see, hopefully, all of our hostages come back. You mentioned President Biden. He made it clear from the beginning of this war that he personally wants to bring all of the hostages back. We know that he sent the chief of the CIA to Israel and to Qatar and to Egypt, trying to negotiate a deal. I think what's changing now is until a few days ago, we were talking about how many prisoners will Israel release for how many hostages that the Hamas will release. But the equation is now changed because now I think the Hamas leaders are fighting for their life. And their life and safety will be a factor in the equation. So we have to add into the negotiation some assurance that they might seek to get some asylum, to get a way out, a safe escape from Gaza. And this improves our bargaining situation. Something we're going to discuss in more detail shortly. But right now, gentlemen, stay with us. We're going to cross to our correspondent, Zach Anders. And he joins us from southern Israel. Zach, what update can you share right now? Well, Benita, I want to bring you a perspective from Mikhail Kotler once she's Israel's special envoy for combating antisemitism. And the last several weeks, of course, you took this role just before the 10-7 attacks, the last several weeks being pivotal in international spaces. You just spoke at the United Nations. Tell us a little bit about what it is exactly that your role has been involved with. And what is the message that you're bringing to the United Nations? So I think that 10-7 in many ways exposed many, many masks. The atrocities of 10-7 were fueled by deep and lethal antisemitism. And it is precisely the same antisemitism that stokes the responses to the atrocities, to the war crimes, to the crimes against humanity of 10-7 that deny, that justify, that support, and that attack Jews around the world in their wake. That is a critical piece of what actually brought me to go on this going to be my third emergency trip to the places in which Jews are attacked literally on the streets, in campuses, definitely in social media spaces, for the very atrocities perpetrated against their people in the Jewish nation state. Do you find that the response right now, we see so many different nation states that have changed their tone and their attitude. I think would be a fair way to put it. What is the reception? Is it positive or is there pushback because of what's happening behind us in Gaza? So you know what was actually amazing and in a very sad kind of way was how quickly the world moved on from the atrocities that I just described.  That is not something that Israel can just put behind it like any country would not be able to. The atrocities of 10-7 are a turning point for civilization. It's not just an attack on the Jew among the nations, the state of Israel, or on Jews around the world in their wake. This is an attack by genocidal terror organization that in its charter is committed to the annihilation of Israel and the murder of Jews like Mein Kampf, but a proxy of a genocidal terror regime committed to the precise same thing. The annihilation of the state of Israel and the murder of Jews and this is not just an attack as I said on the state of Israel or on Jews around the world. It is an attack on civilization as we know it because that very same regime calls to build an alternate reality on the rubble of our civilization. What happened on 10-7 is not just a Jewish issue. While we may be the bloody canary in the Mein Kampf literally on the front of this war what I tried to bring in my trips abroad is the urgency and existential nature of this war as I said to the foundations of democracies to our shared values of life and of liberty. Forgive me this might be somewhat of a crude question but what does it morph into what is your concern then if if we've seen antisemitism spike and I want to start maybe with the college spaces the universities in the United States for example if if it's already so severe what can it morph into what is your concern what are you hoping to prevent? Well we got a little peek of what we have to prevent and that is actually the murder of Paul Kessler in LA in a demonstration holding an Israeli flag and we should all be saying his name. He was murdered in a demonstration in support of the state of Israel's right to exist and let's be clear the demonstrations that we see the other demonstrations that we see are not in support of Palestinians they're not in support of anything they are pro-murder and pro-burning and pro-rape they're in support of Hamas genocidal terror very clearly calling for from the river to the sea which is an annihilationist call to annihilate the state of Israel it basically echoes the Hamas Charter what we have to prevent on all spaces and we said the international institutions like the UN university spaces that are now seeing Jewish students attacked streets or homes of Jews that are being marked with stars of David around the world in Berlin on the streets of Washington and so forth this is the responsibility of countries everywhere that understand that as I said this is an assault or an attack on our shared principles of life and of liberty the responsibility to actually not only speak about or adopt the international Holocaust remembrance alliance definition of anti-semitism a working definition that was created precisely in order to be able to identify this modern mutated form of anti-semitism that is anti-Zionism or the negation of Israel's right to exist in any border and I want to be clear anybody that cannot unequivocally condemn the atrocities of October 7th is not supporting Palestinians or peace or humanity they are supporting the genocidal terror war crimes crimes against humanity and what international law experts have called the makings of genocide we have to be very clear about that so that there should be a unequivocal condemnation and be what I would hope is responsible Palestinian leadership that acknowledge that it is Palestinians held hostage by the very same genocidal terror that we know uses Palestinian children as human shields we know that they use them as sacrifice we know that they build their headquarters below hospitals and schools and mosques and the only single entity responsible for all of the deaths the murder and the deaths the unfortunate and tragic deaths that may be happening and will may still happen in Gaza is Hamas a genocidal terror organization that has to be with moral clarity the way that we fight this unconventional war for public opinion so back back to the roadmap though of if there are these protests and we do see so many of those students at these campuses that you visited that are either flat out equating their acceptance of Hamas and Hamas's actions or creating some sort of different approach to how they rationalize what's happened to how they rationalize 10-7 if that's already their stance where do you go from here to change those minds well we're talking about democratic countries that have law enforcement mechanisms that have to be able to identify and combat that systematic and systemic anti-semitism that Jew hatred that has been enabled in a process of dehumanizing and delegitimizing and applying double standards to individual Jews and to the proverbial Jew among the nations to the state of Israel if countries that that that are not that are mandated and entrusted to be able to uphold promote and protect those foundational principles and life of life and liberty or other spaces universities all spaces that enable this to thrive don't take responsibility this does not threaten only the Jews we see that most of these demonstrations are actually anti-west not pro-Palestinian and this is a threat as I said to the foundations of democracies and we have the tools to hold to account to implement the laws that we have in many of the universities there are regulations that have been violated over time and all of these have to be upheld and applied very very clearly right now because that sense of urgency and that existential threat is as I said to our civilization as we know it not just to Israel or to Jews around the world okay thank you so much for joining us and we really appreciate that perspective Benita thank you thank you so much our correspondent Zach Anders speaking to Mikhail Kotler Wynch Israel special envoy for combating anti-semitism lie from southern Israel thank you very much ambassador your thoughts very powerful words there from Mikhail Kotler Wynch your takeaways what stood out for you very powerful thoughts and I'm very pleased that we have such a special envoy to combat terrorism she's outspoken she's strong and her voice is well heard now I know the extent of the problem because you know I speak with friends all over the world so tell us the extent of the problem the problem is a real problem in democracies and liberal countries and this is what is frightening in the US and in Europe for example I have friends in Italy in France in England you know yesterday in England half a million people march through the streets of London shouting not anti-israeli slogan those were anti-semitic slogans against the Jews and when you say Palestine from the river to the sea what does it mean you throw the Jews into the sea because there's no place for an Israel people know that what's going on on the campuses in the United States you know I know personally students who have come back to Israel since the beginning of the war not only have they come back they're also engaged in the IDF but you can you cannot be a Jew on a on an American campus who could imagine that and look in France what President Macron said walking back his comments now in a phone call to Israeli president 24 no 48 hours ago he should have made this quote immediately you know what does it mean to say that we are killing babies and women Jews not Israeli Jews are killing baby and women you remember all the accusation against Jews killing babies and Macron made this terrible mistake I don't believe that he's anti-semitic but I am sure that his words have inflamed anti-semitic feelings in France today on a day where all over France they are rallies against anti-semitic and who is not there Benita who is not there Macron is not there you know previous there in spirit absolute presidents in France Mitterrand took part because it took part he Macron know he made a terrible mistake now he's sorry he called her talk it's not enough and again he says he will be at the protest in spirit as you say not enough after words like that calls for a ceasefire and Gaza are becoming louder in the Arab world Dr. Shimoni your take on that pressure out of the Arab world what kind of impact does it have right now it's been made very clear there will be no ceasefire in Israel's eyes unless all hostages are released we have a good relationship with many Arab states and with many Arab entities and the condition that enable these good relations are the fact that they recognized Israel they recognize the right of Israel to exist we're dealing now with a terrorist organization called Hamas who wants to destroy Israel and for the time being there's for the short term there's no other solution but a military solution to this and the aim of the war the two aims of the war one is to get back our hostages but the big aim of the war is to dismantle Hamas's military abilities and we're fighting against that I believe Israel will not agree to a ceasefire that will stop us from reaching these two goals and they're they're entangled with each other because if we win Hamas will get the hostages back and if we get the hostages back it will be easier for us to beat Hamas so I think Israel will try to maintain the war going on we will agree and we have agreed to small pauses especially to allow the Gaza citizens to flee to the south but and again if there's a big exchange of prisoners if our hostages on mass are coming back to Israel yes that will enable the ceasefire yes it would be dangerous yes the Hamas will try to regroup where reorganize it re-equip itself but it will be worth that risk could I add a word to what Dr. Shimoni just said yesterday at this very huge gathering of not only Arab but also Muslims head of state and we saw many there was a motion presented to cut ties with Israel or to not say cut ties but to boycott Israel okay and there were about 10 Arab countries who voted against it and it is difficult for all those with whom we have friendly relation they all voted against it and it is not easy for an Arab country to do so certainly isn't easy and we keep watching the dynamics as they're changing very briefly we don't have much time left the way Iran is pulling the strings right now with all these developments that we're discussing right now break it down for us very briefly yeah Iran is enemy number one and Iran for the time being is hiding behind Hezbollah and behind Hamas and behind the Houthi but the day may come that we will have to confront Iran directly because this is from there that come the threat to the existence of the state of Israel very briefly Dr. Shimoni your insights on the role Iran is playing at this juncture very briefly as the ambassador said the Iran is orchestrating the whole episode here in the Middle East they're using proxies they don't dare to confront us directly they know that the United States is backing us militarily and politically in case Iran will will interfere but they are behind the whole scene of course Dr. David Shimoni ambassador Avi Pazner always appreciate your insights thank you so much for being with us here in studio day 37 of the war and that is where we wrap up this edition of our breaking news coverage I'm Bernice Levine Intel Arvive our rolling coverage continues shortly stay tuned this is i24 news thank you for watching is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where she as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well news edition I'm Bernice Levine coming to you live from Tel Aviv we start with news just in the IDF confirming that 15 projectiles have been launched from southern Lebanon towards Israeli territory in the past hour siren sounding in the western Galilee near the coastline including in Akkor just a short while ago in recent hours Hezbollah claiming responsibility for an anti-tank guided missile attack from Lebanon several civilians wounded near the community of Dover the Israeli military responding in Gaza heavy fighting inside the strip close to the Shefa hospital a crucial landmark as it's located above the Hamas terror command center in northern Gaza thousands of Palestinian civilians making use of the humanitarian corridor to flee to the southern parts of the Gaza strip in southern Israel siren sounding moments ago in the Kerim Shalom area warning of incoming rocket fire from Gaza towards Israeli communities day 37 of the war a war that started on the 7th of October with a Hamas terror onslaught in southern Israel in which 1400 people were slaughtered 239 people remain in captivity in Gaza abducted by the terror group on that day so for more we welcome to studio Dr. David Shimoni commander at the commanders for Israel's security and Avi Paznara former Israeli ambassador to France and Italy and former world chairman of Karen Hayes sword the united Israel appeal gentlemen thank you both so much for being here in the studio Dr. Shimoni I'm going to start with you because there are developments right now on several fronts anti-tank missiles sent from southern Lebanon towards Israel civilians have been hurt rocket fire coming from Gaza into Israeli communities no one hurt siren sounding several times over the course of the afternoon and of course troops inside the Gaza strip getting closer and closer to she for hospital which is located above the terror command center your assessment of what is unfolding all at once well I'll start with the north we're seeing a gradual escalation of hostilities in the north but it's gradual and it's very limited so yes unfortunately a precise anti-tank missile hit a group of civilian workers and they have people who were badly hurt and we have now about 15 rockets that were fired by the way by Hamas they claim not by Hezbollah to the western gallery we don't see yet a big major offensive in the north nor by Hezbollah neither by the IDF it's getting worse all the time it intensifies we see that Israeli forces are air force are hitting further north into Lebanon with greater force but it's still not the big war and I think for the time being both Israel and Hezbollah are trying to play a very delicate game of challenging each other but still maintaining some kind of restraint over the the amount of power that is used and the damage that we can inflict on each other in Gaza the situation is terrible for the civilians who remained in the city of Gaza but in the past two three days we've seen a large volume of civilians escaping which means that they got the message it took a long time to deliver the message that being in in the city of Gaza is dangerous we do not want to harm civilians and many many of them now escape also that means that the grip that Hamas officials and military forces had on the population is reduced so because for example yesterday we heard about a Hezbollah terrorist who a Hamas terrorist who held about 1000 Gaza civilians and didn't permit them to cross to the south but he was hit and killed staggering to think that it is Hamas stopping civilians from leaving and getting to safety yes because that's their strategy they hide behind civilians that's what is making our fighting in Gaza very difficult and of course I'm sure the ambassador will be able to address it better than me but public opinion is turning against us seeing the scenes of the the destruction in in Gaza yeah that is something we're going to unpack in more detail shortly but right now gentlemen stay with us we're going to go to our correspondent Mary Makalov she joins us from northern Israel and Mary those sirens sounding in the western Galilee earlier and just a short while ago in Akko as well bring us up to speed what is the latest there that's right Bonitas we can bring those sirens in Akko in this area some of these sirens ringing out in further south areas pretty far from the border those were rockets that were fired from inside southern Lebanese territory into Israel the IDF said that four were intercepted and the rest fell into open areas we don't have any reports of injuries or casualties or damage yet coming from those we do know that Hamas the Lebanese branch of Hamas has taken responsibility for these rockets being fired tiring it to the ongoing operation inside Gaza but throughout the day we've had a number of different incidents here on the border sirens often ringing out especially in these communities that are really lying on the border and most of these sirens that were caused were either caused by anti-tank missiles fired across the border or from the sounds of mortars that were triggering these sirens we know the IDF is actively responding with artillery we can hear some of the sounds of that artillery from where we are here the IDF is also conducting a number of different airstrikes and it comes as we had a number of different injuries throughout the day caused by these anti-tank missiles that Hezbollah has been using to launch across the border towards these Israeli areas that are really next to the border so inside northern Israel at least 10 have been injured at least one is in critical condition from that and the IDF is now confirming that seven soldiers were injured from a similar anti-tank missile attack that struck their unit but saying all of those injuries were lightly injured and this coming a day after Hezbollah Chief Hassan Asrallah was speaking out he had a tough message for the United States and Israel but still not saying that Hezbollah is fully involved in the fighting bring us up to speed on his messaging that's right well Nasrallah's message what we heard yesterday it's also a similar message that we heard a week ago when he delivered his first remarks since the beginning of this war broke out but they say for their part that Hezbollah is actively engaged with this fighting whether or not that's going to turn into an all-out war continuing to say that that lies on Israel also blaming the Americans but saying that they're very closely watching what's happening inside the Gaza Strip they're watching Israel's invasion take place what's happening there and also what's happening in southern Lebanon with Israel responding to a number of different strikes targeting Hezbollah tear infrastructure inside southern Lebanon but also just artillery shelling the number of different areas that they've also put the onus on Israel saying that they're watching carefully that if they're going to be civilian deaths and if Israel escalates the situation any further that will mean that it's a step for them to go even further into this all-out war for now though Hezbollah does seem to seem pretty content with keeping the situation is launching these attacks across the border but today they had a number of different successes by injuring a number of different people in two separate incidents both soldiers and civilians alike so whether or not this is a sign that Hezbollah now despite what Nasrallah said yesterday is taking the decision to step up this war we still have to wait to see exactly what unfolds here but I can just tell you this area is definitely on high alert stay safe correspondent Mary Makalov live from northern Israel thank you for the update Mary and still in studio Dr. David Shimoni and Ambassador Avi Pazner and Avi I'd like your take on exactly what we just heard there from Mary the concerns around what is transpiring up north another speech from Hassan Nasrallah waiting Israel to hear if he's going to get fully involved or not but however it's described we are seeing more and more escalations provocations whatever you want to describe them as happening across the northern front and civilians have been hurt all right you're absolutely right after every speech of Nasrallah we see an escalation a limited I must say limited escalation but it hurts today we had several people wounded there were also people killed last week and we have to be here very conscient of the fact that more important than the speeches of Nasrallah we have to measure what's going on in the on the ground and to see where this escalation is leading us because you know the moment of an escalation it's upward you know and here sometimes they are very very gentile line that if you cross them you get into another round so for the time being we have been able to maintain the fire under control if I can say so but we have to take into consideration that without prior warning Nasrallah can change the rule of the game we have been surprised one on the 7th of October even though now we are pretty much confident we have matters in hand and yes we're doing a good job there are about 70 or 80 terrorists from Hezbollah who have been killed since the beginning of this campaign the IDF is doing a good job but let's not take Nasrallah for granted it can change policy from one day to the other. Dr. Shimoni I want to turn our focus to what is happening right now in the Gaza Strip not only are troops getting closer and closer to Shifa Hospital which again is located above the terror command center of Hamas complicating fighting no doubt but over and above that the hearts of the nation waiting for word on the 239 hostages held in captivity somewhere across the Gaza Strip and now reports of a possible deal and I say reports because it was a Biden administration official speaking to American media already refuted on Reuters as well but how would a prisoner exchange if true impact the way Hamas deals in terms of its fighting strategy it gives the time to regroup your thoughts well first of all we're talking about a hostage negotiation process so there's a lot of disinformation and misinformation and we don't know anything and we will not know anything until we see hopefully all of our hostages come back you mentioned President Biden he made it clear from the beginning of this war that he personally wants to bring the all of the hostages back and we know that he sent the chief of the CIA to Israel and to Qatar and to Egypt trying to negotiate a deal I think what's changing now is until a few days ago we were talking about how many prisoners will Israel release for how many hostages that the Hamas will release but the equation is now changed because now I think the Hamas leaders are fighting for their life and their life and safety will be a factor in the in the equation okay so we have to add into the negotiation some assurance that may they might seek to get some asylum to get away out a safe escape from Gaza and this improves our bargaining situation something we're going to discuss in more detail shortly but right now gentlemen stay with us we're going to cross to our correspondent Zach Anders and he joins us from southern Israel Zach what update can you share right now well Benita I want to bring you perspective from Mikhail Kotler once she's Israel's special envoy for combating anti-Semitism and the last several weeks of course you you took this role just before the 10-7 attacks the last several weeks being pivotal in international spaces you just spoke at the United Nations tell us a little bit about what it is exactly that your role has been involved with and what is the message that you're bringing to the United Nations so I think that 10-7 in many ways exposed many many masks the atrocities of 10-7 were fueled by deep and lethal anti-Semitism and it is precisely the same anti-Semitism that stokes the responses to the atrocities to the war crimes to the crimes against humanity of 10-7 that deny that justify that support and that attack Jews around the world in their wake that is a critical piece of what actually brought me to go on this going to be my third emergency trip to the places in which Jews are attacked literally on the streets in campuses definitely in social media spaces for the various atrocities perpetrated against their people in the Jewish nation state do you find that the response right now I we see so many different nation states that have changed their tone and their attitude I think would be a fair way to put it what is the reception is it is it positive or is there pushback because of what's happening behind us in Gaza so you know what was actually amazing and in a very sad kind of way was how quickly the world moved on from the atrocities that I just described the babies were burned that entire families were burned alive that women were raped so badly their legs couldn't be straightened for their burial that is not something that Israel can just put behind it like any country would not be able to the atrocities of 10-7 are a turning point for civilization it's not just an attack on the Jew among the nations the state of Israel or on Jews around the world in their wake this is an attack by genocidal terror organization that in its charter is committed to the annihilation of Israel and the murder of Jews like Mein Kampf but a proxy of a genocidal terror regime committed to the precise same same thing the annihilation of the state of Israel and the murder of Jews and this is not just an attack as I said on the state of Israel or on Jews around the world it is an attack on civilization as we know it because that very same regime calls to build an alternate reality on the rubble of our civilization what happened on 10-7 is not just a Jewish issue while we may be the bloody canary in the mineshaft literally on the front of this war what I tried to bring in my trips abroad is the urgency and existential nature of this war as I said to the foundations of democracies to our shared values of life and of liberty forgive me this might be somewhat of a crude question but what does it morph into what is your concern then if if we've seen antisemitism spike and I want to start maybe with the college spaces the universities in the United States for example if if it's already so severe what can it morph into what is your concern what are you hoping to prevent well we got a little peek of what we have to prevent and that is actually the murder of paul kesler in la in a demonstration holding an israeli flag and we should all be saying his name he was murdered in a demonstration in support of the state of israel's right to exist and let's be clear the demonstrations that we see the other demonstrations that we see are not in support of palestinians they're not in support of anything they are pro-murder and pro-burning and pro-rape they're in support of hamas genocidal terror very clearly calling for from the river to the sea which is an annihilationist call to annihilate the state of israel it basically echoes the hamas charter what we have to prevent on all spaces and we said the international institutions like the un university spaces that are now seeing jewish students attacked streets or homes of jews that are being marked with stars of david around the world in berlin on the streets of washington and so forth this is the responsibility of countries everywhere that understand that as i said this is an assault or an attack on our shared principles of life and of liberty the responsibility to actually not only speak about or adopt the international holocaust remembrance alliance definition of anti-semitism a working definition that was created precisely in order to be able to identify this modern mutated form of anti-semitism that is anti-zionism or the negation of israel's right to exist in any border and i want to be clear anybody that cannot unequivocally condemn the atrocities of october 7th is not supporting palestinians or peace or humanity they are supporting the genocidal terror war crimes crimes against humanity and what international law experts have called the makings of genocide we have to be very clear about that so that there should be a unequivocal condemnation and be what i would hope is responsible palestinian leadership that acknowledge that it is palestinians health hostage by the very same genocidal terror that we know uses palestinian children as human shields we know that they use them as sacrifice we know that they build their headquarters below hospitals and schools and mosques and the only single entity responsible for all of the deaths the murder and the deaths the unfortunate and tragic deaths that may be happening and will may still happen in gaza is hamas a genocidal terror organization that has to be with moral clarity the way that we fight this unconventional war for public opinion so back back to the roadmap though of if there are these protests and we do see so many of those students at these campuses that you visited that are either flat out equating their acceptance of hamas and hamas's actions or creating some sort of different approach to how they rationalize what's happened how they rationalize 10 7 if that's already their stance where do you go from here to change those minds well we're talking about democratic countries that have law enforcement mechanisms that have to be able to identify and combat that systematic and systemic anti-semitism that jew hatred that has been enabled in a process of dehumanizing and delegitimizing and applying double standards to individual jews and to the proverbial jew among the nations to the state of israel if countries that that that are not that are mandated and entrusted to be able to uphold promote and protect those foundational principles and life of life and liberty or other spaces universities all spaces that enable this to thrive don't take responsibility this does not threaten only the jews we see that most of these demonstrations are actually anti-west not pro-palestinian and this is a threat as i said to the foundations of democracies and we have the tools to hold to account to implement the laws that we have in many of the universities there are regulations that have been violated over time and all of these have to be upheld and applied very very clearly right now because that sense of urgency and that existential threat is as i said to our civilization as we know it not just to israel or to jews around the world okay thank you so much for joining us and we really appreciate that perspective uh bonita thank you thank you so much our correspondent zack and speaking to michael kotler wunsch israel special envoy for combating anti-semitism lie from southern israel thank you very much ambassador your thoughts very powerful words there from michael kotler wunsch your takeaways what stood out for you very powerful thoughts and i'm very pleased that we have such a special envoy to combat terrorism she's outspoken she's strong and her voice is well heard now i know the extent of the problem because you know i speak with friends all over the world so tell us the extent of the problem the problem is a real problem in democracies and liberal countries and this is what is frightening in the us and in europe for example i have friends in italy in france in england you know yesterday in england half a million people march through the streets of london shouting not anti-israeli slogan those were anti-semitic slogans against the jews and when you say palestine from the river to the sea what does it mean you throw the jews into the sea because there's no place for an israel people know that what's going on on the campuses in the united states you know i know personally students who have come back to israel since the beginning of the war not only have they come back they're also engaged in the idf but you can you cannot be a jew on a on an american campus who could imagine that and look in france what president macron said walking back his comments now in a phone call to israeli president i think it's too late 24 no 48 hours ago he should have made this quote immediately you know what does it mean to say that we are killing babies and women jews not israeli jews are killing baby and women you remember all the accusation against jews killing babies and macron made this terrible mistake i don't believe that he's anti-semitic but i am sure that his words have inflamed anti-semitic feelings in france today on a day where all over france they are rallies against anti-semitic and who is not there benita who is not there macron is not there you know previous previous friends absolute presidents in france miteran took part sarcosi took part he macron no he made a terrible mistake now he's sorry he called health talk it's not enough and again he says he will be at the protest in spirit as you say not enough afterwords like that calls for a ceasefire and gaza are becoming louder in the arab world dr shamoney your take on that pressure out of the arab world what kind of impact does it have right now it's been made very clear there will be no ceasefire in israel's eyes unless all hostages are released we have a good relationship with many arab states and with many arab entities and the condition that enable these good relations are the fact that they recognized israel they recognize the right of israel to exist we're dealing now with a terrorist organization called hamas who wants to destroy israel and for the time being there's for the short term there's no other solution but a military solution to this and the aim of the war the two aims of the war one is to get back our hostages but the big aim of the war is to dismantle hamas's military abilities and we're fighting against that i believe israel will not agree to a ceasefire that will stop us from reaching these two goals and they're entangled with each other because if we win hamas we'll get the hostages back and if we get the hostages back it will be easier for us to beat hamas so i think israel will try to maintain the war going on we will agree and we have agreed to small pauses especially to allow the gaza citizens to flee to the south but and again if there's a big exchange of prisoners if our hostages on mass are coming back to israel yes that will enable a ceasefire yes it will be dangerous yes the hamas will try to regroup we're reorganize uh it re-equip itself but it will be worth that that risk could i add a word to what dr shimoni just said yesterday at this very huge gathering of not only arab but also muslims head of state with so many there was a motion presented to cut ties with israel or to not say cut ties but to boycott israel okay and there were about 10 arab countries who voted against it and it is difficult for all those with whom we have friendly relation they all voted against it and it is not easy for an arab country to do so certainly isn't easy and we keep watching the dynamics as they're changing very briefly we don't have much time left the way iran is pulling the strings right now with all these developments that we're discussing right now break it down for us very briefly yeah iran is enemy number one and iran for the time being is hiding behind khizballah and behind hamas and behind the khuti but the day may come that we will have to confront iran directly because this is from there that come the threat to the existence of the state of israel very briefly dr shimoni your insights on the role iran is playing at this juncture very briefly as the ambassador said the iran is orchestrating the whole the whole episode here in the middle east they're using proxies they don't dare to confront us directly they know that the united states is backing us militarily and politically in case iran will will interfere but they are behind the whole scene of course dr david shimoni ambassador always appreciate your insights thank you so much for being with us here in studio day 37 of the war and that is where we wrap up this edition of our breaking news coverage i'm bonisa levine intel aviv our rolling coverage continues shortly stay tuned this is i24 news thank you for watching israel is at war make an investment in israel bonds it is the most powerful and 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of israel our correspondent mary mccall if he's standing by and mary talk us through all the latest developments if you would a little bit of a sound problem there we'll try and get mary back up on the line for you in a moment let me introduce to you then my studio guest this hour buggy dear general hanan geffen he's the former commander of the eight two hundred intelligence unit in the idf thank you very much for being with us so quite a lot of developments today with regard to hezbollah the terrorist group that is based in lebanon we've had an anti-tank mortar fired at israel six people wounded one in a serious condition this is quite an escalation is it not yeah we have it's an escalation but still in the in the borders that we know for the last months and so it's interesting to mention that the hezbollah it was immediately reacting and said he was actually targeting civilians but they are actually actually installing some intelligent device a kind of military equipment just to make sure that it's i'm really sorry to interrupt you and we're going to i want to pick up on that i want to head back to the north there because we do now have mary mary hi yes good evening laura so i just want to say we had a number of different attacks throughout the day here most of those caused by anti-tank missile attacks one of them causing a number of civilian casualties those were transferred to ziv medical center in spot inside northern israel where one remains in serious condition another one who is still remaining in hospital but his condition has improved he's now said to be in light condition but we also saw another anti-tank missile attack on a group of soldiers near the manara area those causing four injuries among idf soldiers all of those were said to be lightly injured though and then following that we also had a number of rocket sirens ringing out in several areas inside northern israel going as far south as kirjabbalek next to his hypha those said were said to be most of them were intercepted or at least falling in open areas the idf says for now they don't have any reports of injuries or damage caused from that but what we do know is idf is responding harshly inside southern lebanon to the series of attacks that we've seen throughout the day today using both airstrikes but also shelling a number of different areas we can hear the sounds of shelling from our area definitely striking hard in response to this chaotic day here and this just a day after yet another or two days i should say after another speech by the hezbollah leader hassan asrallah who has not really changed his position has he no that's right yesterday so yesterday hassan asrallah spoke again at this ceremony and it was a very similar message what we heard last week when everybody in this area was very fearful about what exactly he was going to say but hezbollah for its part seems to content with what they've been doing so far which is having to keep the idf on its toes here in the north while the operation goes on in gaza continuing to also be a thorn in the side of the israeli military here causing them to divert a number of different resources here whether that's troops or iron dome batteries hezbollah for its part says that that's what it's doing for the palestinian cause and that they're saying that they've already been actively engaged in the war all right mary thank you very much indeed mary mccall if there or hanan geffen is with me in the studio and i'm sorry to interrupt you just to mention but hezbollah is trying to keep it very hard in line with this equation that it's stating that he's sticking to it not targeting only military targets the ones that target the civilians are the palestinians so this is going on for the last 30 days it's interesting to mention that they targeted the civilians electricians they're working in one of the villages there in the dove and they were very hard they tried to explain that they actually attacked the military target saying that they were installing some equipment some military equipment so on and so they are not they're actually civilians yeah it's civilian so they take a lot of care to make sure that they believe it was a part of a military support or so on so this is what's going on what more interesting is from the hezbollah point of view is the thing that they hear from israel because in the last days they heard from the defense minister from mr gants from mr and tanyao they heard that israel will not accept the situation that was prior to 7th of october did the situation will have to be changed that's the situation with a terrorist group on israel's border pointing tens of thousands of missiles yeah and they were sitting actually near on the border uh uh moving there uh freely um while the situation that israel has hinted that they are going we are there want to see the hezbollah uh confined to the and also for the titani which is part of an agreement that they are you and decision that the hezbollah disobeyed and in many ways find to break down this this agreement so do you think that israel should respond more harshly to hezbollah no it's it's now it's the decision of israel because israel is preoccupied with the one one front and uh it wants to stick to this front the americans aware and and advise israel not to attack lebanon i don't know in in in parallel or wait but uh if i see it from the point of view i'm an intelligent guy so i'm trying to think what mr hezbollah deep in his bunker thinking and he heard the voices from israel things will be changed so he might uh taken he might do one two things one to be more careful not to give us or any exchange to change the situation or on the contrary trying to find a good time to try to change to initiate an attack to attack okay yeah all right stay with us hanan geffen we're going to have a look at this report now because um as hanan just pointed out israel's defense minister uh was in the north yesterday and he warned that beirut could face the same fate as gaza if hezbollah continues to attack israel our defense correspondent johnathan regev has more sunday's anti-tank strike on the israel lebanon border this is what hezbollah is looking to achieve eating israeli is on the border fence knowing that the israeli response will also remain on the border but not beyond the second front in the north has been active since day one of isra's war with hamas but still with the certain mutual understandings the fighting takes place almost entirely on the border area and not beyond most of the targets hit by hezbollah are military and not civilian and israel does not strike too deep inside lebanon but looks mostly for hezbollah targets on the border will this continue to be the case as the campaign in gaza continues and hamas is eventually toppled no one really knows hezbollah hezbollah is dragging lebanon into a war that may happen what we are now doing in gaza we can also do in beirut and therefore i hope that hezbollah will act appropriately and hasa nasrallah will not provoke us because his aggression is unacceptable to us at least on the ground the hezbollah leader is sending the message he's not impressed in recent days we have witnessed a new wave of threats from the israeli leadership they are concerned from what is happening on our front in terms of quantity quality and depth of course we will continue in this position and this performance hezbollah had various chances to expand the war but chose not to that is why the cautious assumption in israel is that the situation on the lebanon border will not escalate into a full on war is that good news not necessarily we must not agree to keep the situation as it is we have a national obligation to eradicate hezbollah as we are now doing with hamas in the south the state must act the same way here in the north the streets are empty in the evacuated northern border communities with the residents return once the war is over knowing that hezbollah is just across the fence and the terrible images seen in the gaza border could repeat themselves here a very serious question which for the moment does not have an answer well let me bring in now left-hand colonel sarid zahabi the founder and president of the alma research and education center thank you very much for being with this side so what do you read into events over the past 24 hours first that visit to the north by defense minister gallant and this attack today by hezbollah yeah of course this is a another step in the gradual escalation than to we see since october 8 it started with two incident a day and then it raised and then after i df successfully dealt with the anti-tank swads so hezbollah is adding uavs a little more targeting civilians that are operating in these areas of of the communities that now became close military zones every day we see a little more and you saw that hamas claimed responsibility for the rockets but actually it is clear to everybody who is responsible to to the whole policy and the whole strategy that is coming out of lebanon what i see of that i i think that for nasrata the situation now is is excellent israel practically evacuated 60 000 people as the mayor of shlomi just said we don't understand when they are going to be back and it takes a idea becomes busy with an active north and front while everybody is denying the world war and eventually it can deteriorate into something which is much higher scale than what it is today and i think everybody is aware of that on both sides do you think that nasralla wants an escalation and is he deterred at all by what we heard from the defense minister yesterday saying that bay root could very quickly look like gaza i'd say two things first we should avoid using the word deterrence anymore it's irrelevant to what is happening here we have learned that on october 7 and second we have been saying that in the past two years nasralla wants to drug israel into war except he's not interested in doing so for any palestinian cause but for the interest of lebanon and mostly the interests of iran wants to put face as we see as if he's doing something good for lebanon so that's why it is trying to drug israel rather than initiate a full-scale operation like what hamas had done but if you look carefully at nasralla's speech yesterday you can learn that something was changed other than the gradual escalation that we talked about nasralla in this speech connected very clearly the campaign to the sheaite axis it's not anymore this is hamas business and i am just far behind it's a sheaite axis active for various fronts which nasralla described in a lot of details and he also related to the lebanese front and he said as long as this campaign is longer there are more challenges to the state of israel other than just a direct security challenge like economic and international etc so i don't know i believe nasralla is interested in escalation i don't know exactly at which point this escalation will happen um stay with us sarita havey um hanan geffen uh do you agree with that um everyone is avoiding the word war but that is what's going on in the north right now and deterrence clearly isn't working no it's not in the war it's not a war yet because it's mentioned it's it's it's only it's it's very uh it's contained very much and very carefully for saturday so so the guidelines for both sides but the situation uh since the gaza is going on and dragging on that might change the the views uh not from israel by the word because israel uh actually is ready to this war from day one the the reservoirs were called in and the the the the the divisions were set on place and everything is ready from day one or day two uh not from israel but the question is whether nasralla uh will go that that far or it might be that after you see what happens in gaza and i it's a far it's a far picture right now but you might think that you better try to concede to what you and will will dictate going back to a resolution 1701 which is deletani as i mentioned which is perfect right now but it might be the case after he sees what happened and gaza is finished so israel can move its thousands of civilians back to the northern border towns with nasralla still sitting in his bunker with those missiles still pointing at each other that will not be that will be a resolution different resolution which is the the list that is really agreed that is most of all of his power all of his uh his elite power will be 20 kilometers from the border above beyond the deletani river sorry to have you would that be acceptable to israel then i hope not because above the leetani river there are a military capabilities that can threaten our very existence here with regard to uh accurate missiles uh 2000 drones that are also accurate nasralla already said clearly that he has the capabilities to try to destroy infrastructures in israel now i know that we have defense systems that are very effective and i i totally believe that they are very effective but it is clear to us today after what happened in october 7th that we can no longer enable any terrorist organization to continue to grow whether it's an invasion capabilities or rocket's capabilities it doesn't matter and that's why i don't think it should always be concerned with regard to 1701 it should be concerned to 1559 which is a resolution that talks about disarm in khizballah now i believe that everybody will agree that he's but we never agree to just disarm because he saw what is happening in gaza this is the opposite logic to the very existence of this terrorist organization so what do you see is the solution inside because the idea is right now as sometimes and then points out tied up in gaza the solution with being non compromised the solution should be uh israel working along with the international community making sure that there is no khizballah in lebanon for the benefit of the israelis and for the benefit of the lebanese this is the only solution i don't know whether it's kinetic or diplomatic i don't know it is definitely not going to happen just and khizballah is not going just to agree to this kind of solution but that's the only way that can promise prosperity and a true change in the reality not only here but again also in the middle east i am talking to you from my bomb shelter at home nine kilometers from the border the reality that we are experiencing here up north in the past months or so uh it's something that we we cannot enable over here in israel we are not going to go back to the eighties and the nineties here okay left hand and kudos to hami thank you very much thank you well that's the situation in the north let's turn our attention to the south because this idf troops move deeper into gaza several rockets today fired at the town surrounding the border the fighting moving ever closer to gaza's sheaf a hospital which the idf has identified as a hamas control center our correspondent zach under us is in the south of israel for us now um and uh zach first of all we should point out um the idf death toll in this operation so far has been revised upwards 42 israeli soldiers have been killed in the fighting so far and on the flip side hamas does not release their numbers so we may be able to get a glimpse of what the engagement has been around the hospital with pictures and some of the open source material but we don't know the level of loss and right now the pictures that we are seeing are showing that idf troops are within a throwing distance of the hospital itself at the same time they're releasing audio phone calls to staff inside the hospital providing some sort of routes a road a clear road for hospital staff to evacuate you have to remember that by all reports by accounts there are still patients including young children babies that are inside this hospital and need to be evacuated need to get away and the idf is reportedly helping offering to help without evacuation as it has facilitated humanitarian corridors for civilians in the north for tens of thousands of civilians already right and then you see the conflicting reports that potentially they're leaving the hospital grounds and then being fired upon and and the idf is telling us that hamas is the ones that are firing upon these people as they try to flee and then access these corridors that the idf is setting up and providing safe passage through an awful situation for those that must still be in in the on the hospital grounds you know for the longest time they've been told by all all their friends and all the people that are still inside gaza city that the hospital would be the safe place the hospital would be the place they could go for protection and now it's turning into the opposite well it is um i think uh almost two weeks since the idf identified that hospital as a hamas command center didn't they right right so to to have those folks then get the conflicting message potentially from hamas as they they argue those points and and hamas telling them no it's it's safe stay here um obviously there'd be a clear advantage for hamas to continue to have civilians inside the building to use them in all sorts of fashions as their fodder which does speak to those reports earlier of the convoy of individuals innocent people with white flags even as they step out onto a road being fired upon yeah and um despite the fierce fighting that's going on inside garter hamas still managing to fire another volley of rockets today's act and those two communities here all across the the southern tip of israel i've been able to speak to a few sources they have clarified that while it's not confirmed these launches have for the most part in the last 24 hours or potentially even the last 48 hours have been coming from the south so the south of the gaza strip so the launches that we are seeing still reach into israel have been coming from rocket launch sites in the southern gaza strip that might speak a little bit to the activity and the level of uh success the idf might be having in the northern gaza strip again where they have told people to evacuate all right zack thank you very much zack andrew's there he's down at the southern border in israel all right well with me in the studio uh hanan gefin uh former commander of the 8200 intelligence unit in the idf um the fighting moving ever closer to the sheafer hospital and the idf i think it was two weeks ago now identified that hospital as a hamas command center this is an extremely complex extremely sensitive mission isn't it yeah it's it's it's not only the the the sheafer hospital there are several others hospitals that where some of them already evacuated some of them are not yet uh these are areas that are known for many years that they are hosting that they are command posts and other facilities of command control under the hospital they believe that the sheafer for long time for many uh in the past many uh operation they were sheltering down in in sheafer we know it we saw it uh this time uh since the mission is to to get rid of hamas different from what we have uh the mission was in the last uh operation the other operation so they have to find ways to go down the hospital itself is not a target the people there are not a not target but the the the underground the the the the tunnels and the and the the command post actual command post i don't know if the commanders and the muhammad are still there probably they have some escape rooms around there in gaza but we have this is a cleaning of this area she find other facilities and it's already the start of a long process it will take maybe months to go after uh the the the commands the the the the the warehouses uh and everything the the hamas for many years have gathered around this metro the the the the tunnels they've embedded themselves in there haven't they tunnels in downtown gaza well prime minister netanyahu has been talking today about what a post hamas gaza might or should look like according to him we can take a listen to him speaking to us media earlier today first the first thing we have to do is destroy hamas because otherwise they'll do it again and again and again and they've said so so we'll destroy hamas the second thing we have to understand is that there has to be an overriding and overreaching israeli military envelope because we've seen any place that we leave we just you know exit give it to some other force very soon terrorism resurgence so we've achieved nothing the third thing we have to understand is that a civilian authority has to cooperate in two goals one is to demilitarize gaza and the second is to deradicalize gaza all right there prime minister netanyahu there speaking to us media earlier today hanan geffen there netanyahu is being a bit more specific about what he thinks gaza should look like in terms of how israel can maintain its security what do you make of that yeah well he's not very clear because he's not very happy with the palestinian sororities and they the way they behave the way the attitude they show to the 7th of october massacres they totally ignored it it's it's angering everybody here but there should have been a palestinian sororities different maybe palestinian sororities israel have a little say i'm afraid because the the the international community and especially the the america the us will take a major lead in it egypt will take a major lead the arab state so israel will be part of a group to try to to constitute a new entity there probably and as to the military part of it actually if i translate it to practical thing it means that we will easily keep the liberty to re enter gaza whenever it has any information that hamas is reorganizing a new group of hamas is there is a similar to the situation in the west bank yeah exactly this is the same we have a sorority which take the care of the day to day life but we are not trusting is we think that are vital to israel they can take off the local local police can act there but whenever a local interest it is my my heart israel vital into israel israel take care we are not going to hand it over to to other to the care one of the allegations leveled against israel is that it is seeking to reoccupy gaza and you have got it ma bengvi and other ministers in the government who say that they are open to the idea of israeli settlements inside gaza yeah everybody tells them you may dream but it will nobody will actually go back to gaza it's not the interest if israel it's israel is not occupying gaza the military activities are not directed to this we are not going to we are not conquering roads and and building and districts the military is going strictly directly to the command post wherever the hamas is once it finish is will go back to it barracks and watch and see what Netanyahu himself said that the idea of israeli settlements in gaza is unrealistic and not something that supports it's a dream yes it's a dream it will not come true but in in terms of maintaining security is that something do you think the international community would allow yes that that it will be allowed there will be if i if i take an example of what happened in the west bank america us built a very strong internal security organ in in in the palestinian authorities they are very effective but they are limited because of the order they get so probably there will be such an an organization cooperating with israel but still is there will have to go inside from time to time to make sure that things will not went the wrong way okay so and of course the difference with the west bank is that there will be no israeli citizens living inside the territory so that would be a purely military but if you take for example jenine or or nablus we see the city we see the the the refugee camps the same is going here hanyona sofiak is the same model or we can see it there okay all right hanan geffen thank you very much we're going to take a very short break stay with us and more after the break of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well thank you for watching i-24 news and calls for a ceasefire in gaza are becoming louder in the arab world this weekend the arab league held a summit in riyadh Saudi arabia calling upon israel to immediately halt its offensive in gaza but the united arab emirates and saudi arabia blocked a call to freeze ties with israel and impose an oil embargo our pierce tackle back has this report elis showing up for the palestinians in an emergency summit five weeks after isles war with hamas began heads of state of several arab and middle eastern countries arrived in riyadh saudi arabia with the goal of applying pressure on the international community to bring about an end to the fighting in gaza the kingdom affirms its categorical rejection of the continuing aggression occupation and forced displacement of the people of gaza and stresses that israel bears responsibility for the crimes committed against palestinian people and resources these arab leaders say israel is committing human rights violations while a humanitarian disaster is unfolding in gaza the president of the palestinian authority calling upon the us and for a diplomatic way out and in this context we hold the united states of america which has the greatest influence on israel responsible for the absence of a political solution turkish president redship type erdogan attended the summit after the turkish-israeli relations significantly deteriorated after the start of israel's war with gaza at the summit erdogan only found very vague words for the hamas massacre in southern israel on october 7 israel is trying to exact revenge for the october 7 attacks which perhaps many of us do not approve of by killing innocents and children and women additionally the international atomic energy agency should investigate the issue the nuclear weapons that israel possesses must be revealed speaking about nuclear weapons iranian president ibrahim racy traveled to saudi arabia for the summit for the first time since iran and saudi arabia restored relations earlier this year racy in his speech reiterated his trademark call to boycott israel the cutting of any sort of political and economic relations with the zionist regime by islamic countries in this context a trade boycott against the zionist regime especially in the energy field should be prioritized syrian president bashar al-asad also attended the summit after being welcomed back into the arab league in an initiative led by saudi arabia the summit's conclusion rejects the notion that the war in gaza is justified by israel's right to defend itself which is disregarded in israel the summit lacks any political power it can be understood as a way of arab and middle eastern leaders to show back home that they do take some form of action well the united arab emirants rejected that call by iran to boycott israel it says it plans to maintain diplomatic ties with the jewish state for more than that we can go to do by we joined by our correspondent basian bori uh basin tell us a bit more about the ua position well the ua position is um is suffering from uh two two things at least uh it's very active but uh they're coming up against um first the survival instinct of benia minnetaño who's for the moment without any kind of concession and second the power of saudi arabia all the gold states as we just saw in this footage are member of the golf cooperation council and as in just about all international organizations uh it's it's the most powerful member that who decides how to proceed and in this case it is saudi arabia so what the emirates are saying pretty much follows the rhythm set by the saudis and and that's how it's been since the start of this of this war um golf communication works in phases for a few days you have very firm condemnations of israel and then of the of the next few days the tone changes katar releases israeli hostages um saudi arabia says that negotiations on the abraham accords will resume and so on and so forth so probably in a few days time the wheel will continue to turn next week we'll probably be talking about new condemnations aimed at the jewish state and so on all because the gold countries including the united abmirates have chosen the the middle way to keep good relations with with everyone well the country's most hostile to israel wanted a much stronger statement didn't they bastia they wanted uh to freeze diplomatic ties um they wanted a committee to appeal to the eu countries on behalf of the palestinians they wanted an oil embargo they wanted to stop the americans uh from transferring weapons uh to israel um is it right that it was the emirates and the saudis that kept that out of the text absolutely um i think that saudis and the emirates are pretty cautious when it comes to israel um firstly because the saudis have very little diplomatic experience with the israelis both the israelis and the palestinians i believe that saudia arabia is either unaware of hamas's power or that it's simply underestimates it but in other case there's a comprehension problem in the last few days before the war i think we talked about this visit of saudi officials in to the palestinian territories including ramallah uh it was the first time this had happened in 16 or 17 years and it clearly shows that the saudis are not interested in the palestinians and the palestinians know this very well ultimately riyadh is just using the palestinian causes leverage to negotiate a peace agreement with israel at great cost uh saudia arabia needs this agreement to have nuclear and solar power and to finally begin its energy transition which with which it is dangerously lagging behind saudi gdp is you know still 50 oil dependent which seems absurd today for a country with such ambitions so the saudis are using uh at the end of the day the palestinians to pressure the israelis who are very reluctant and very worried about the idea of transferring the nuclear technology to saudia arabia yeah it seems as though there's a big disconnect isn't there bastia between what's going on behind the scenes and and what we're actually seeing at these summits as as is always the case absolutely and um to the extent that during this specific summit uh we talked a lot about the uh the scarf of ibrahim racy but i think the crux was was was not a gulf state leader he was mahmoud abbas he used this last form as we just saw in riyadh to position himself and the palestinian authority as a as a potential winner of this war so to speak by emphasizing the billions of dollars that the pa the palestinian authority has spent in gaza since 2007 and and the fact that the pa wouldn't be against ruling the gaza strip from from ramallah or from east russia i mean in the case of the creation of the palestinian state so he um he was on the spotlight bastia thank you very much bastia and bogey there in dubai well with me in the studio hannah geffen is the former commander of isha's eight two hundred intelligence unit and joining us now on the line jonathan shanzer is the senior vice president for the fdd the foundation for the defense of democracies thank you very much for being with us and jonathan i'll start with you um you know the ua e and saudi it was quite extraordinary that they did take those steps to block the strongest anti-israel moves were you expecting that well i i did find it somewhat surprising but at the same time i think we need to understand here that uh th