From theCUBE Studios in Palo Alto in Boston, connecting with thought leaders all around the world, this is a CUBE Conversation. Hello everybody, welcome to this CUBE Conversation. This is Dave Vellante, and I've been running the last several weeks a CXO series where I've talked to CEOs, CIOs, CISOs, to really try to understand the impact of COVID-19. As you know, we really dug into the budget outlook, et cetera. Well, Kathy Southwick is here. She's a CUBE alum and the CIO of Pure Storage. Kathy, it's great to see you again. Thanks so much for taking the time to come on theCUBE. It's great to see you again, Dave. Thanks for having me. You're very welcome. So, you know, my first question to leaders is, when you started to get visibility, that there was going to be this crisis, what was your first move? You know, the first move for probably most organizations and especially for ours was to really assess the current state of our organization and appear in how we support the business. So we went into a lot of pre-planning, a lot of looking out and saying, if things were to happen in a quarter, in two quarters, three quarters, what would we need to be prepared for? So we spent a lot of time going and looking at our BCP, our DR plans to say, what would we need to execute on? And we actually started, similar to how you met with Mike Fitzgerald last week from our supply chain, we actually started pulling triggers to get ourselves prepared and look across both our application side as how we evaluate availability, our partners that we use, both on-prem and off-prem. And we started to also look at just kind of the current state of how do our employees currently work? And we do have a fair amount of our employees who are very productive and successful working remote. So we knew we needed to make sure that we continued to provide that level of service across the board. There was really a lot of pre-planning, a lot of looking at what are we currently doing and what do we need to make sure that we're prepared for in the unknown that we were all facing? And I want to ask you about the kind of work from home piece of that.  Do you feel like you had kind of an early warning to this and maybe more than many organizations? Yeah, I think we've probably had an equivalent to others. I think the difference was that we are a small nimble organization, our IT is very lean and we immediately move towards kind of executing plans. So there isn't a lot of approval cycles or, you know, red tape to go through. We're really empowered at the organization level to make the decisions that we think are necessary to help our business be successful. So that was really the forefront was see what needs to happen and then actually start doing. So don't just think about it, plan to do the analysis over and over, but actually start executing. And I think you would have seen that across all of Pure that we immediately started mobilizing teams, our supply chain, both from an internal, what do we consume, whether it's laptops, devices for employees, et cetera, or it was the products that we need to provide our customers and what they needed to do. So I think it has to do with more of how our company cultures and how we operate very much make it happen for our customers. And that means that all of us need to be constantly prepared for what needs to happen and within our respective teams to support our customers. So I want to break this talk down. It's a people process and tech. We always talk about the big three. Let's start with the people. Obviously your first concern was the health and well-being and safety of your people. But as Sanjay Poonan told me, once we figured that out, it's like, get to work. We got to be productive. So maybe talk about the people situation. California was kind of hit early, but I imagine you've got a remote workforce as well. Paint a picture for the people resource, if you would. Yeah, no, it's a great point that Sanjay made. You're absolutely right. The people was, it's kind of you look at this as it's people in the safety and health and then what do we have to do to provide the necessary tools for our customers? And so we immediately, as in front of the employee lens, we immediately start doing things like interactions with our employees. I'll say on a very regular basis. So we do a daily stand up in IT at the leadership level, then each of the organizations, they're also holding those. And a big part that is not, how's your work going? It's, how are you doing? How's your family doing? How are the things that you need to have in your own personal space to be able to be productive? Because if you don't have those things then people actually can't do the work. So try to be very flexible. We've got people who are working different shifts, meaning that they normally be in the office Monday through Friday, but they're trying to balance those home things with homeschooling children now and all those different aspects. So it's really been about, take care of the people first. We've done some fun things like doing little exercises where we have a challenge every day, some type of challenge that we're asking our employees to do just to kind of keep the health and mind part of it healthy and then go right into the work. And then you're right. You then get to that, okay, we've got, I think our employees have all settled down to this, whatever this new norm is. And people are now becoming very focused on, how do I make sure I hit my deliverables? And they're so focused on helping our business that they are, it's literally about, we actually had to tell some people to kind of back off, take some time off because 24 seven became 24 seven for everyone instead of having some rotations because people just didn't want others to have to wait for responses. All right, Kathy, well, let's turn to the next P which is the process. So what kind of changes did you have to make in order to support this whole work from home notion? You know, we're very fortunate. As I had mentioned earlier, we already have a fair amount of our employees that were very successful working remote. So we had already the tools in place, the capabilities in place, what we really did was a lot of validation of what we had, was it going to really be sufficient? So things like checking, do we have the right VPN? Do we have enough network bandwidth connections, et cetera. So for the most part, all of that has worked pretty well. I'll knock on wood, but it's gone pretty well. And we've had some challenges with some of the new hires coming in because we still are bringing onboarding new employees and there are some locations around the world where there are some logistical challenges of going to certain countries. But other than that, we've actually, the plans that a lot of the planning the team had done has really paid off for them as we move forward. So we've been very successful from that perspective. And I definitely want to ask you about the technology, but before I do, I want to talk about the macro. So we've been reporting that when we came into this year the consensus for IT spending was a plus 4% through COVID and other research and surveys that we've done with our data partner, ETR, we've kind of settled in at a negative 4% for the year, which would be a lot worse were it not for the work from home offset. And about 20% of the organizations that we talked to said they're increasing spending about 35% said, hey, no change. And then of course, there are a lot of industries, airlines, others affected by supply chains, et cetera, which are way, way down to hospitality, et cetera. Now that's the macro. Pure is not a bellwether for the macro because you guys are a high growth company, but what's your budget situation kind of coming into the year and has there been any change? Yeah, I feel very fortunate. We've been very supported from our business. We actually made some changes to all say double down on some investments in IT this year. So our budget coming into this year was already increased and that was to deal with just opportunities that we saw better alignment with the business, better strategic partnership in different areas of our business and how we support them from the customer side. And then also how do we want to think about areas of like our employee experience? So we actually had made this an investment year for IT. Right now, we're still on track for that. I would say that we've done a little bit of some reprioritization of some initiatives that we wanted to do versus things that we're now wanting to make sure we can care for. So I think about like collaboration tools. Do we want to expand any of that portfolio that we currently have? So it's more of a, I feel very fortunate that we came in pretty strong and we're still at that point, but we are doing some all calls and reassessing some of our priorities to say, are these the right things we should still continue to do? Or should we alter some of that? So at this point, that's what we're looking at. Yeah, I've talked to a number of technology leaders that have said, look, this is sort of a shift in priorities, as you were mentioning from, for instance, one said yesterday that we had this kind of hardened network and now we've got this distributed workforce. So we're really kind of rethinking our network priorities. We've got to secure those remote workers. It's not just video conferencing tools. It's our VPN, it's security, it's our network bandwidth. It's maybe things like VDI, et cetera.  So I would say that arts have been more of augmenting capabilities. So we've had a pretty successful strategy around what we're doing on the remote workers and how we secure them, et cetera. We are absolutely like everybody else. And I've participated in several CIO forums where we talk about this, do we need to go back and revalidate some of the decisions that you might have made in the past. And so we are doing that from ensuring that we have the right security around our enterprise. But the other is that it's also looking at, are there things that we could do that would help us from productivity capabilities?  So looking at some of those new opportunities. So I wonder if you could talk a little bit about some of the things that some of your suppliers are doing. Obviously, Pure is a big supplier of yours, I presume they're treating you like gold. But I've had some CIOs that I've talked to say that they really were overwhelmed and pleased with the way in which their vendor partners have treated them, maybe deferring payments for them in some of these hard hit industries and the like. What has the relationship been with your providers? I would characterize it very similar. We've had great partnerships with many of our major suppliers of technology and for both SAS providers as well as some of the other areas that we work with. And I would say that everyone has been made the extra effort to either reach out, whether it's at the CEO level, it's at different layers within their supply chain. A lot of communication, you hear a lot of communication from the, I'll say the supplier community, which has been really great and very responsive. So when we are seeing issues or have questions, it's not a we'll get back to you at some time or you're not important, it's about what we do to help you. So I think we're seeing similar to what you've heard from others. We're experiencing that great kind of ecosystem that says, hey, we got to make sure everyone is successful, not just an individual company. So that's been the experience we've had as well. It's been really nice to see it. In that CIO and CISO roundtable that I mentioned from ETR, we had thought that especially in some of the harder hit industries that they'd be less likely or more reticent to work with startups, but it was just the opposite. In fact, one individual said, you hear the guy says, hey, I picked three from the upper right and the magic quadrant, I vet them. He said, I always picked two from the upper right and then one from the lower left because I'm trying to find that next diamond in the rough. And he mentioned a couple of success stories. They don't all pan out, but they want to try new things and get some competitive advantage. What's your take? I mean, you guys were in this position as the challenger, the disruptor, but what's your take on working with startups in these times of crisis? I think it's important too, because they're seeing and they're nimble. And so I think that was one of the benefits at Pure Hat. We're very nimble, very quick to make decisions. You're hyper focused on the customer. And I know that a lot of companies will comment that they're very focused on their customer and customer first, but coming into Pure, you see it firsthand. And so you often see that from startups. They're very curious on what problems are you trying to solve. So they're not necessarily trying to sell you a widget of some sort. They're really trying to solve a business issue that you're facing. So I would tell you that we've had success as well over the years. Pure has worked with startups over the years. We participate with different communities, whether they're the VC community who's doing round tables on discussions around new startups and the opportunities that they're bringing will they solve problems? And I would tend to agree. I think you need to have some that understand your business enough that can help you to scale, because as a company like Pure, we're continuing to grow. You've got to be able to scale your business. And so some startups might not have some of those capabilities, but there's actually quite a few that they can solve the problems a different way. And so scale looks different than maybe what a traditional way to approach it. So I think it's really important to keep them in the mix and to actually just keep anyone who's trying to solve problems because if you aren't looking at it from the lens of like, what are we trying to do to support our business? And a lot of the CIOs were in the same boat. You're trying to figure out how do I help the business be faster, better, et cetera.  And none of our businesses can actually afford that either. But it sounds like your business continuance, business resilience went well beyond disaster recovery.  But I'll ask you, what do you feel as though your biggest challenge has been since COVID-19 hit? It's funny, I've been thinking a lot about this because we're always trying to figure out like, how do we do this better next time? What does that look like? So certainly, I think it's the education part with our employee community. We have spent an enormous amount of time with our HR partners on doing training, what I'll call training sessions or how do you best practice sessions? How do you use this? What's the best way to do this way? So I think that our key learning is that most users only touch the surface of capabilities in any of the tools that you provide, whether it's even a laptop or a computer, or a computer that you use to, you know, their home networks to what they're doing on, you know, software tools, collaboration tools. And everyone kind of just does enough to get themselves started. But when you move into an environment where we're all remote, you have to rely on all of those tools so much more. So I found it to be that we spend more time, what I'll call on the education side, on the awareness side. We are still running like some of our normal campaigns around like security awareness. But more in that lane than we have on, I'll say dealing with it or, you know, challenge with some of the just technical capabilities to keep our teams productive. So it's been more of the people side. And when you asked that question earlier, more of the people side that we've been focused on. So technology infrastructure, pretty solid. It's really sort of, you know, educating people. I always said bad user behavior, Trump's good security every time. But I'll follow up with, you know, somebody who was joking the other day that worked from home infrastructure to the new hand sanitizer. You can't get a lot of it. So, but no challenges with securing, you know, laptops or other sort of components that you might need. Now I think that some of our initiatives we're still very focused on. I would say some of the areas that we're trying to get a little bit further on is what I'll call, you know, complete touchless remote capabilities. So similar to like what our customers expect of Pure where you want, you know, remote installs, you want to be able to do it touchless. You don't want people coming in. It's the same thing in the IT space. So we're trying to look at, can we adopt some of what we're doing in the, you know, what I'll call the go-to-market side? Can we do more of that with our employee base? And I think that's where we're going to spend more of our time is, you know, that do we need to expand the collaboration capabilities? And then do we need to expand more of our capabilities on the remote side of when people are, you know, not physically in the office or can't come into an office very quickly? What can we do to do more remote assist for those users? And we've spent a fair amount on that, but I would call it more of the basic capabilities. I think where I need to look at do we expand and, you know, it's really kind of to strengthen some of what we've done today. I mean, I got to say, I'm not super surprised about your posture here. I mean, Pure, you don't have a lot of legacy baggage. You've always been a very fast moving company kind of forward thinking. But I wonder if we could just ask you generally, I kind of my last question here is when you think about Pure, but you specifically, but also your peers, what portions of kind of post COVID-19 do you think are going to be permanent? You know, a lot of people were kind of the wrong side of history in terms of work from home, forcing people to come in to the, you know, to create the beehive, understandably. But that obviously is going to change the whole use of collaboration tools. What's your sense of the top things that might remain permanent in a post COVID world? That's a great question. It's actually one of the top questions that we're trying to grapple with right now is what does reintegration look like? And what do you do both from a technical perspective, a people perspective, and what are we going to do? So I would say that there's still a lot of questions that are unanswered right now.  We're trying to understand what's happening from government controls, et cetera, and what will those need at the state, you know, country level, et cetera, for what we would have to do different with our employees. And I would tell you that our position as a company has been very much that we're going to have to continue to expand how we thought about, you know, the beehive concept versus, you know, do we have more work from home? And I think you will see that as a general, you'll see more work from home across the board. And I also think that we'll look for some creative things that we've never done as companies before, whether that is staggering, you know, times when people are in the office, while we kind of do that today just based on employee needs, we've got people who come in at, you know, six in the morning, we have people who come in at, you know, 10 or 11 in the morning. So I think that we might have to be a little bit more prescribed about so many people in the office at a certain time. So I think it's going to be a combination of, I think the technical will all continue to work that. I think the people side of reintegration is going to be the, how do we want to, you know, balance the working from home or the remote working and the, do we have more staggered schedules? All those things are going to be, I think the bigger challenges for us to address as just kind of as the economy in general. Okay, there's been great having you on. As you know, theCUBE, we love face to face, but this is safe to safe. So thanks so much for coming on and sharing your perspectives, great stuff. Great, it's great to see you, Dave. All right, and stay safe. And thank you for watching everybody. This is Dave Vellante for theCUBE and theCUBE Conversation. We'll see you next time.


Welcome back ladies and gentlemen. We'll mutt episode 21 So last episode we prestige and we earned an additional prestige point The team is looking as beautiful as ever. We went from a I think we're an 88 overall down to an 82 with the prestige I lost all my offensive linemen, which is really sad as I'm recording this the Jaguars are being the Steelers by seven There's like 20 seconds left in third quarter was 21 to zero Steelers are making a little bit of a comeback No speaking of the Steelers Guess who we got to add to the team with a brand new flashback card Ryan Shazir 92 speed middle linebacker the Ryan Shazir middle linebacker card is faster than any white player in this entire game Which I just realized after doing my all-white team. I want to see if he has any other cool stick 92 tackle 95 jumping That's actually so good 92 92 impact block Why does this Ryan Shazir have 92 impact block? I don't know why that is but I like it really good block shed pursuit 85 zone coverage That's beautiful. Now I did something weird. This might have been controversial I don't know what you guys think about this I had Derek Brooks strong safety out of position when I prestige him I took the 93 Derek Brooks outside linebacker because I can't have both Derek Brooks on defense at the same time It won't let you do that However what it will let you do as you guys can see is I can have two players on the opposite side of the field So I have a rainy moss cornerback limited edition got prestige and additionally since you guys allowed it I got rainy moss scary fast wide receiver 94 speed and for my third and final prestige for the episode I prestige tight end Dwight Clark into wide receiver Dwight Clark I wanted full run-and-gun insane wide receivers rainy moss at Dwight Clark should also be putting up some decent blocks for Mary Sanders and I get Jeremy Sprinkleback on the lineup And as you guys know he's kind of like super good for some reason I need a free safety And I need an offensive line and then we can keep moving 82 overall is pretty dang good And I really wish Tyree kill had gotten a better card. So unfortunately unless I think a weird promo comes out I don't think Tyree kill is ever gonna get an upgraded car, but down the line There's definitely gonna be an ultimate legend rainy moss ultimate legendary Sanders ultimate legend Randall Cunningham Ultimate legend Dwight Clark. I'll have some ridiculous 99s on this team come here. All right So our first wheel spin over the episode with our brand new silver team is now 91 hero 91 hero 91 hero 91 here Do not move 91 hero that's actually super super good. I am pumped who do I want? Oh, does this mean I can get a free safety? Who's got a 91 overall mud heroes free safety card? All right, we're doing cam chancellor, dude I want to lay a hit cam chancellor 91 overall strong safety 95 hip-hours gonna get moved to my free safety and the second spin and I want to earn more spins in this episode I want to get some rage quits or something there's the new spins and we are gonna get five times store packs Maybe Bo Jackson Look at how close that is. It's literally on the Bo Jackson part of the wheel Why is it not? I am so depressed. I'm clinically depressed five times store packs any action was really awesome last time when we had Randy Moss. Oh, and I get any store pack. Oh my god. Wait, this is actually way better We're gonna go with five of these NFL premium packs playoff premium packs. Hopefully we'll get some we'll get some playoff elites in this I know we will not hopefully we're guaranteed Kenny focaro Can't reduce him 91 oh my god, dude, don't you usually not get 91s in these 91 Don't sorry Poe next packs got here Oh wait, this will go my cornerback number three cornerback number three has nothing filled in we get Aaron Colvin Here is number four. Where's my elite bang Preston Brown that fills in that fills in my other linebacker spot That's actually really really really good. I gotta say this worked out a lot better than I thought it would and this is my fifth Pack right here.  Alright, whatever. We got another deep We got Malcolm Brown. Let's go hold defense is elite again. Oh my god We literally just prestige and the entire defense got filled in with lead I got five elite defensive players that all filled in holes on my defense. All right So here's the team before we hop in to episode 21 on a brand new start to earn players for prestige points We have three amazing wide receivers amazing half-pack off I'm so sorry if you're if you're a big offensive line fan out there I'm sorry tight ends be worth offensive line Sam Rogers is becoming an icon for this team. Oh wait I bought cam chancellor. I don't know why I thought I needed John Johnson.  All right, this is the team cam chancellors in all the playoff elites that we just got are in I don't know why I forgot about cam earlier. I'm sorry. Seahawks. Let's hop into a game I need to keep these players There's his top three all 93s and I don't think I have everyone knew I have very random Oh, I do she's here is on the top one now. I like that third and 12 I bet she's tight and angle again probably who have a stretch.  You're not quitting because you got one possession not to work. Oh My god, okay I get rage quit spins now.  You got three plays straight that didn't work and you wanted to quit So usually a rage quit in the first half. I would take two wheel spins It's kind of pointless because I really didn't even do anything on that like I he just was super impatient or really bad at the game So I'm gonna take one wheel spin. Here's my only wheel spin for this rage quit We're gonna add it to the team and hop into another game might be a legend. Oh my god insanity pack again Here comes the money. I got a candy pack like three episodes ago And I'm excited to get it again three slots out of the insanity pack Oh, and by the way, I'm on private browsing because I watch so much porn Zeta bites of porn so we literally just did the insanity pack before I'm gonna re-explain it super quick Insanity pack is a pack on my head that has a bunch of crazy stuff in it This is my example pack right here and that one was actually not that good So I'm glad we didn't I'm gonna pick three of the slots in this pack Randomly before I open it just like we just did with pick a slot and then I get to get I get to get those players I'm gonna take the bottom three in the middle. So I'm going where Steve Atwater on Yamada and Tyra Williams are I'm taking those three slots bottom middle and then to the right of it You know, I mean so I'm gonna get everything else out of the way first There's a Casey Hayward my boy Malcolm Smith way already have was in there There's a Thomas Davis that I missed out on and an Amari Cooper that I missed out on but okay My three half an 85 center Eric would 93 her show Walker who I can't hardly use I guess he's going at fullback and an 88 Sanders what the heck I already have Barry Sanders. All right, so her show Walker I guess I can make her so Walker my backup half back cuz Barry Sanders gets tired pretty often I see this is awesome lots of new exciting stuff just happened Her show Walker was actually a really really good return man back in the day when he played So I've got a new kicker turn partner Turner. I also have a new backup half back So when Barry Sanders gets a little bit winded her show Walker's coming in and then Eric would we got a center and his name's Eric Would that's hilarious. Let's get back into a game. Hopefully we don't get the guy to quit in the first two seconds. Oh Good God Bo jacks is Sean Taylor Kalil Mack. That's a beautiful team. My team looks awesome, too So I don't care. Alrighty the 92 speed Middle linebacker Shazir. We're starting out with Shazir is pretty much the fastest guy out here The only guy faster in him right now is that Bo Jackson who he's running with who's running with right now Please don't run me over. I knew he was What is it? What did that other tackler? What was my other tackler doing? He just stood there and let him walk past him. I know lie It is gonna be very tough to stop that Bo Jackson gotta make something happen. Boom. He's there again He's gonna break every tackle on the first hit man Yep, it's right there. I know it's there. That's not even Perry. Why is everyone missing a tackle? Every single person is missing the weirdest tackles, but that puts us at 4th and 3 I'm playing on Preston Brown. He wants to throw underneath.  There's six yards. I Want Barry out of the backfield.  All right seven to zero. That's great Oh Oh my god why Why? The balls up in the air for both of you to grab and you just let him come same exact thing. Oh my god All right fourth and one this is a pretty important down right here He needs some meal Tell me what I'm supposed to do about that and he's earning a fake the kicker fake Twenty to zero.   I literally just got them all back big hitter fumble He is gonna pass and of course he catches it right over the middle.   This is so depressing. I'm getting exposed Like this is this is what it looks like to get exposed. I am gonna play this out though I'm gonna take my L like a champion. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god guys. It's happening. It's happening. It's happening Oh my god guys I think that might be the most depressing game of my life Okay, let's be fair It could have been 34 to zero We had heart We had heart and hustle dude that actually sucks so bad if I wasn't recording I would have quit in the first quarter.  All right guys, that's it That means we lose her show Walker's the next episode you must see her show Walker Eric would that's not even that bad I think what hurts most about this is my pride and the pain that I'm suffering in this game because I want to cry


Okay, so I had a question asked because I had done a video that you know I didn't really like my job But it was dot-dot-dot because there were just certain aspects of my job that I didn't like that made my job more difficult like Mentally and emotionally and physically and so because of that there were a few questions that were asked and one of them was like Okay, and I know so you say you don't like your job, you know, you're a PA Do you plan on switching specialties and if you do what specialty do you plan on switching? And so I was like, yeah, you know what? Let me answer that question for you guys because this is an aspect of the PA career that many people gravitate to so We're in this video. I'm gonna be talking about, you know, the specialty that I'm really interested in Going to and when would I do that and how would I go about doing that?   Okay, so yes, um, you know I don't think it's a big secret that I Like women's health and I want to be in women's health and so their women's health is so broad though You guys so I have friends in women's health in different various like aspects of woman women's health And there I've realized like there are certain aspects of women's health that I really don't want to be a part of and that is Absolutely, okay, you know, it is okay to find yourself in something and then you're like, you know what this isn't really what I thought I was gonna be this is really not gonna fulfill me long term And so let me see what else is out there. It is absolutely okay And I I think a lot of us will spend time like Perseverating on well, what will other people what will people think what my what will this person think what may my parents think? But ultimately like you have to really take care of yourself your mental health in your your happiness overall And so when it comes down to prioritizing yourself I like kudos to anybody who's able to do that and does it fine Like my husband is a pro at that when it comes to like jobs and careers I I tried to take a little what is it a page out of his book, but That being said is there a specialty that I'm interested in yes, it's women's health And I've always been interested in women's health. I like women's health, but more specifically I like inpatient women's health as how it is set up currently at my hospital where they see all of the Consults for anything women's health related And then they are in charge of really and truly all like postpartum care like pain control Education and then also they do all of the cesarean sections So there is a wide range where you get to use your brain and think about what your differential diagnosis is and then at the same side like on the same token you also get to do surgeries and Assistant surgeries and then give education so the full spectrum of You know health care and being a provider and so I really really like that when would I actually make this switch? I have no idea, you know right now I'm in a good position with trauma and I I like what I do Even though there are days when I don't like what I do But at the end of the day, I'm learning a lot and I think as a trauma PA All of the things that I've been able to garner in terms of like my critical thinking skills from when somebody comes in in a Traumatic situation will only be an asset to whatever specialty I go to next if I so choose, right? So that is like one of the beauties of being a PA and being an APP in general is the ability to kind of transition across Specialty lines it makes you very marketable and it makes you an asset To any provider that you will be assisting because you get to take what you've learned at other Specialties or in another provider's office or at another institution and bring it to this particular Institution and so it should only be seen as an asset at the end of the day It's really about getting into the specialty that is right for you But at the same time like being being really like a jack-of-all-trades where you can actually, you know Be of an assist be of assistance to those that you are should be assisting and so When will I be doing that? I don't know is the answer to that But you know, hopefully as I continue to get more experience And get more knowledge in the current feel that I'm in I'll be able to just be more marketable And when I'm ready to make that switch I can easily and seamlessly make it So how would you go about making this switch from being like a trauma PA, right? You're like you're doing all trauma stuff to now An OBGYN PA it doesn't seem to compute like it doesn't seem like there's any overlap and really and truly There is overlap because there is surgical overlap We're both in the OR doing surgical cases in like your kind of abdominal ish cavity But at the end of the day, I think how how we are trained as PA's is Is what makes it easy for the switch? So at the end of the day, we're still a generalist, right? And so we learn about like women's health issues and obviously if I were to transition into women's health I would have to like Re-up on all things women's health, right? So I would need to be able to figure out all of those things so that when I'm going to see a patient I'm like, hi, my name is Adana. I am your OBGYN PA What can I help you with and they're like, yeah, you know, I've been bleeding for six weeks uncontrollably and this is not the norm for me I can go through and have a bag of differentials in my pocket that I can choose from to be like, okay Well, maybe it's this or maybe it's this do you have a history of that? Well, have you done this when did it start what like what makes it worse or better? It hasn't been consistent. There are things that you're Obviously going to take from the general aspect of getting an HPI from a patient And then there are things that you're going to have to learn and so that's how it is as a PA You're going to be able to sit up here and still like get the general basic information But you re-up on the things that you really need to know In pertaining to that particular specialty Also, you get on the job training from your other PA colleagues and from your attendings And so that is something that you really have to like keep in mind and take take advantage of take advantage of everyone's like Knowledge base and what they have to bring so that when you come in You're able to actually like seamlessly fit in as opposed to like being a barrier to the progression of the team and so that's how you would go about being a Any PA really in a different specialty once you're coming from one specialty to the other you get on the job Hands-on training and then you do your own training you read up on the various different books of that particular specialty And you go to like CME conferences and learn The various different like approaches and surgery and treatments the new and upcoming treatment Those are all things that you can utilize to make yourself a better XYZ PA, okay So that is that's the answer to that question if I were to switch it would likely be to women's health And when would I be doing it? I don't know but it will be an easy seamless transition I just need to find it a job opening and apply So that's that and that is the beauty of this career called the physician assistant slash physician associate career But if you guys have any other questions from that, please leave them in comment section below you guys already know Like this video subscribe to my channel and follow me on Instagram at it on the PA and on instrument get that's the university Thank you guys so much for watching. I will talk to you guys next time


I'm going to start with my little war story, because this is dancing on the battlefield, but four years ago I was given eight weeks to live with a diagnosis of stage four breast and lymphatic cancer. And in that battle, I lost my husband, my son, who traveled with me, got married and moved across the country to North Carolina. I have a 11-year spread. I got pregnant on my honeymoon on birth control, so that worked well. And then I got pregnant 11 years later before my ex-husband's vasectomy, so that worked well. So anyway, I have a 11-year spread, and I was 40 when I got my daughter. And so when I got diagnosed with cancer, and Steve was with another woman, and her healthy mom fell apart, and her brother, who she loved, moved across the country. She lost everything at the same time. I could tell that she was going to fall apart. She was 15. So I made a sacrificial move, which was the hardest move I've ever made, to allow her to move across the country in a stable environment with my daughter-in-law, my grandchildren, and my son.  But what I've learned through this battle, after selling a million His Princess books about God's love, is that God loves me too. I used to buy the lie that I had to suffer in being in the abuse of a marriage for you all to be touched by God, and I hid that for 25 years. I used to buy the lie that I had to give up everything for God to use me. And what I have learned through this battle is that God loves me too. I am still fighting cancer, and I still have tumors all over my neck and my back. And I was asking God if He'd heal me. I just turned 57 on my birthday in May 8th, and so I'm still hot. It just comes in flashes, so flashes and glasses so I can see you all. So anyway, but all that to say that I didn't want to beat this for several years. I didn't want to dance on the battlefield, and I had just came off tour with Chris Tomlin and casting crowns and huge arenas teaching a message on dancing on the battlefield, never knowing what I was about to walk in. I was teaching with power and passion, but I wasn't teaching with the compassion I teach now. Job said at the end of his battle, I have heard about you, but now I have experienced you for myself. I have always loved God's people, and I've always loved God. I was a born-again Christian at 24, lost my Jewish family for my faith. Today my Jewish family is all born-again, but it was a 10-year battle. But now I know Him differently, and so I said, why haven't you healed me yet? And He showed me, those are your battle scars. Pick up your mat and walk out the call. But He gave me four years to get healed myself from abuse from my own childhood, from an abuse of marriage. And ironically, right before I got diagnosed, I spoke for the Christian Counselors Association. I was their keynote speaker, and God knew that I was going to need them when my world fell apart, and they kept me and counseling for four years. So now I know God loves me, and my head's screwed on right, and I'm more compassionate than I've ever been. And now I don't need things to be different for me to be okay. I now understand what it means to have the peace that passes understanding. I now understand what it means to have joy of the Lord without it being based on circumstance. I now understand that there's a difference between a bitter heart and a broken heart.  Forgiveness a broken heart, God says, I'm close to the broken heart. So I want to take that weight off you. If you're still hurt, it's because you were hit hard by the enemy, and pain takes time to heal. And it's tears that heal the pain. But I am going to say this, there comes a point where I had to do this. Once I couldn't cry anymore, once I got good counsel, once I got healed, I made a decision, and that decision was this, I don't want to relive the enemy's works anymore. I now have cried, I have dealt with it, I have moved on, I still live in some of the wreckage, but I refuse to give Satan one more day. I choose to dance on the battlefield, but when I hurt, I will cry again. When something comes up, there's salt in that wound, I will cry out to God again. I will follow King David's example, because he is a man after God's own heart. And when I read the Psalms, so don't let anybody tell you if you're crying from painful past that you haven't forgiven. That's not true. Forgiveness is just saying this, just so you know, I want to help you with this. It's three words, no payback. That's all forgiveness is.  That's not what forgiveness means. It means that you've made a decision to let revenge be God's, and you won't pay them back. And you will let God heal your heart. That's what that means. I don't know who that's for, but I hope it helps you. I'm a little bit weak right now, so I may have to get a stool in a minute, but I'm going to share with you the best I can tonight. I'm going to give you the best possible message I can. I don't know if I will be strong enough tonight to stay and sign books. If you'll forgive me for that last, I was just in a big telecast. Did you guys see the simulcast on Facebook? If you haven't, I just did a simulcast. I got home at three in the morning, and then I'm here. So I'm a little bit weak right now, but I know God's going to give me a word, and I have a fresh word for you, and I'm excited to deliver that word. I'm just not sure how much more I can push past that. But let me just pray, because nothing I say is going to make any difference at all. So Lord, in the name of Jesus, it is your anointing that breaks the yoke, not a person. And so we are asking now that you would come in and do what only you could do. In the hearts of your daughters, your princess warriors. May we leave here dancing. May we leave here with joy. May we leave here with perspective.  When the Ecclesiastes were told there's a time for everything, but we women want to settle into a season and just park there, right? When you find that good season, finally everything's good. If it's not one thing, it's your mother. You know what I'm talking about. There's always something, right? And so we want to settle into this season and we just want to be right here. This is good. It's finally good. And then we go on to the next season. But we're warned there's a season for everything. So what I have learned in my season of mourning is I was going to milk my pain and not waste it. I was. I was like, no, this is my season. It's okay for me to cry. I don't like to cry. I don't like to feel sad. I'm a sanguine personality. I'm known as the party girl. I want everything to be happy at all times. I always have movie soundtracks playing in my home. People will tell you that they walk in. Everything's white and happy. Everything is happy in my little apartment. But here's the thing. In the darkest hours that I had alone, in the Christmases where I didn't have a family around the table, in the times that I was like, why is it that me who opened my home and my heart to everybody in my darkest hour? I don't even have my own children next to me or a husband to care for me. And I remember crying out to God and saying, God, I need a family and a family knocked at the door. With a guitar. I said, we don't know you. We don't know your circumstance.  Excuse me. My husband left me with so much debt and I couldn't work for four years and we didn't have health insurance. And I was a sole provider of the Holtemazin ministry. So there was no thing to collect, no alimony, no help, no health insurance.  And during that, some readers and friends got together and started a fight for life fund and people gathered around me and gave $10 a month. And that $10 a month doesn't sound like a lot, but it added up with everybody giving what they could. And I was able to get everything I needed, including a place to live for me and my daughter before she moved to North Carolina. Because my credit was ruined by the man that was married to. God is so sweet. Here I have always had a bucket list to live by the beach. And I couldn't get even into any apartment. And this woman called me and said, I have a vacation rental. I'm going to cancel all of my vacation. And it's in Dana Point, California on the beach. What? My point is, for $1,900 a month, by the way, who lives there? $1,900 on the beach in a little apartment. It doesn't happen, okay? My point is, I got to be fed by the ravens and the wilderness. I got to experience what it feels like. It's okay, I'm on fire now. I got to experience what it feels like to have nothing and have everything at the same time. I got to experience what it's like to have Facebook family, love on me and pray for me and people email me separately. And people come and say, I'll just come and have lunch with you and sit with me. And they never felt like they were strangers. They felt like they were family. It's like, God just sent these people. When this family was at my door with a guitar, the mother's doing worship and three kids that look like they're in the Peter Pan movie. You know, I'm like, what? And a little puppy, I'm like, am I really sitting here with a family after just laying on the floor going, God, I can't handle not being with family? Just, I now am running through the last three and a half, four years of what happened. Now that I'm healed, now that I've cried my eyes out, now that I am gonna beat this cancer in Jesus' name, I am now running through it of all the things God did in the midst of my darkest hour in me, for me and around me. Because sometimes I was so sad, which is okay. I had a right to be sad. I had a right to feel and no one had a right to tell me I didn't. But I, at some point I'm like, I wanna change the filter. I wanna clean my eyes with the living water and I wanna see what God did this last three years. So I decided to get back up and be who I'm called to be, wounded at all, and speak. And I decided I would write again and got a 10 book contract immediately with Focus on the Family. I'm writing children's books right now called Adventures with the King that they're gonna make into cartoons just like Adventures in Odyssey. They're giving me my own show starting in the fall. I'm booked solid every once a month because that's all I'm taking right now. I'm too tired so you're my once a month. No, you're my exception actually. You're my exception, I did one just a little bit ago. And I started doing Facebook Live because I can't travel yet. I just can't and not around the country. And I started doing Facebook Live and what's ironic is I was invited to come back on tour with those big arenas and I knew I couldn't. I knew physically I could not do the stamina of back east tours. So isn't it interesting that that forced me to do Facebook Live, people that follow me and already the message I just did Monday night, 27,000 people have seen it. 7,500 joined us live. The first Facebook Live I did, 23,000 people joined us live. I was like, what is happening here Lord? And from that Bible Gateway said can you come back and start teaching on Bible Gateway? And I'm like, I'm here again. I just said to Connie, I go, what? I'm here, like I'm in a green room getting ready.  Like I'm here, like getting up and wounded and all, battle scars and all without a husband. My children still live across the country. And now of course, cause I prayed for my daughter and raised her to be a warrior. Of course she's going to go into third world countries for the next nine months on the world race. I mean, awesome God, thanks. You know, I'll celebrate with her in heaven. But I'm just saying she's doing a mighty work.  They're watching me grovel with God. They're watching me wrestle. They're watching me fight. They're watching me go through human emotions that say, today I want to give up. Okay, today I'm strong, today I'm not. And you know what? At Christmas, I got the most beautiful, I mean at my birthday I got the most beautiful letter from my son who was 29, said, the way you have risen out of the ashes, I will now know God is forever real, forever powerful. And he and my daughter-in-law are raising my three beautiful grandkids, six, three and a baby. And God opened up another prayer because I have not been able to see my new grandbaby. I haven't seen my babies in three years. And many of you that follow me on Facebook know this. A friend of mine, I could only have, my doctor would only let me leave for two days, flew me there, let me see my baby, got to meet them, hug them. Of course I posted it all over Facebook, everywhere I could post it on your Facebook even. Let me share it with 100,000 people. I don't care if it's your Facebook. I haven't got to do this. I was so excited. But I'm just saying, I'm getting to see things with the living water washing my eyes. I'm getting to say like Job did, finally. And you know, I remember saying to people that have already been through hell and back, is there a back? Is there ever gonna be a day that I don't wake up and hurt? Is there ever gonna be a day where I don't wake up crying? Is there ever gonna be a day?  Yes, you will have a day that you will say those who sow with tears really do reap for joy because David said in the Psalms I read where he said, how much longer? I cry so much that my bones are dry, Lord. And as we saw, he did get from a cave to a crown. This time, I'm not backing down to the devil. I'm not afraid to step out on the water because I now know what it's like to lose everything and it's okay. I survived it. Don't walk in fear. Walk out your destiny because the next generation depends on you getting up, wounded and all. If you have to finish, bloody, do it. Because your battle scars are way more powerful than someone that's never endured anything. Your faith is not what you say. It's from what you survive. And when you survive, something like many of you have in this room. And what an amazing church that you all would have this many different ministries. This is church, just so you know. I travel all over for 25 years. This is a church. When you have that many different ministries to offer the real world what's really going on like Jesus did, meeting people where we really are at. Isn't that awesome? I don't know how blessed we are to be here. But there's a season for everything and whatever season you're in right now, I wanna encourage you, embrace that season, get what you need to get out of that season and then get out. Now when people ask me what happened, I say, do you know what? I don't wanna relive it. Would you mind if I don't answer that question? And I don't and I won't. And I tell my friends, if I even start to relive it, say we've already dealt with that. I don't wanna do it anymore. And I have accountability. Now I don't. I'm like, why would I wanna go down a sad road when I can go down a glad road and have a good day? Why do I want to replay the enemy's works when I can replay the work God can do in spite of the enemy? And I don't wanna have to lose my legacy because I gave in to my loneliness. I gave in to a disease. I gave in to a divorce. Yes, I was angry because my parents have been married in divorce three times each. I've been a part of five blended families. Now I realize today we need to start a support group for functional people that are still married. But when I was a young girl, no one was divorced but my family. I'm sorry for you that still have a functional family. I hope you can survive the world the rest of the life until Jesus returns. But it's important to understand that nothing that anybody does to us can take away what God can do through us. Nothing. We can dance when we're in pain and I don't mean as an, oh it's so happy to have been pain. Pain is a very real thing. But pain doesn't have to be wasted. I know how hard it is to push through. And this may be your season to mourn. This may be your season to sleep. This may be your season to serve. I had to understand that God loves me too. And I was not in a place and when I heard pastor Rick Warren's wife when someone came up to her and said, you've been mourning your son's suicide for so long when you're gonna come back out. And I heard her say at a women's conference, I don't know. When I'm done mourning, I'll come back out. And that's when God spoke to me, I love you too, Sherry.  This is your season to receive. What's that? Well, if you didn't have a mom that loved you well and you didn't have a husband that celebrated you, it's really hard to see that you could have a season where people can just come and love you. And boy, have I been spoiled with love in the last three years, in the midst of my darkest hour. And the most beautiful thing about your trials is you find out who your real friends are. Anybody can be your friend when things are going good. Trust me, I lost so many friends. And spiritual kids that I raised, they couldn't handle the thought of losing me because they depended on me so much as a mentor that they came and gave their eulogy of how amazing I was and everything I've meant to their life and brought their flowers and brought their gifts and I never heard from them again. Because they couldn't handle the thought of me not being there, so they mourn the loss. It was amazing the loss. But now I understand that you don't really know that God is all you need till God is all you have. And now I'm surrounded with a team of 10 people that volunteered to put this ministry back together again. I'm surrounded with friends and love. My daughter and I FaceTime and talk every single day. She calls me four or five times a day. We're closer now. I missed the teenage yuck from ages 15 to 18. I can look at it that way. I just went from 15 to good.  Honestly, I'm not kidding. Women, you can relate to this. I've wanted to lose 25 pounds for 25 years. I finally lost my weight. I mean, it was by force, but who cares? My point is we can choose to focus on whatever is good, whatever is true, whatever is lovely. Nothing will make Satan more angry than being thankful for what you got during his attack. You wanna dance on the battlefield? Make him so mad. I came in today, I was tired and Satan whispered you're too weak to give them a message, and I said, watch me, watch me, come in. You don't allow anybody to cancel out God's call on your life, no one. Jeremiah 2911, he knows the plans he has for you, declares Lord, these plans are to prosper you, to use you, to leave a legacy, to be a light in darkness, he has called you for this time. Never before have wounded warriors need to get up. Never before have we had to be Ezekiels. Never before have we needed to speak life to what's dead inside of us first.  I had to start speaking life. No, I am called of God. No, he does love me. My value isn't based what people have said about me or how I was treated by a husband. No, I can get back up again in Jesus' name because his word says I can and because he resurrected his dead son. And I began to study Ezekiel and I love that the dead bones, not only came alive but became a mighty army. And I love that David was like, where's all the people I loved and helped? And he didn't want the army, God sent them. While he's in the cave in his pity party, he didn't want those people to fight with him. You don't you know that at the very end of his life, guess who ends up dying for him? Those people. You may not have lost anything. God may have reset your table. That's what I've learned. And I have an amazing team. And I'm so thankful. And every day is a better day. And every day I can say to Jesus, your life on a cross was enough. That's all I need. And I say to God, if you'll just give me your peace and joy, I don't care what else you give me today. Because peace and joy would everybody crave and try to get, whether it's through food or people or relationships or jobs, that's what they really want, right? Peace and joy. So why don't we just ask God for the good stuff and forget going through people to get it? Call me crazy, but it's a lot less pressure on us. A lot less disappointment on us. And we're not gonna get what we want from these people because they're trying to get it from you. In reality, while you're trying to get their vote, they're trying to get your vote, while you're trying to get their approval, they're trying to get your approval, while you're trying to impress them, they're trying to impress you. So we're living for an audience of none anyway. So I think we should just bypass the people to get the peace and the joy and go straight to the source that gives the peace and the joy and you will be dancing on the battlefield. So I now pray every morning, God, I just want your peace and your joy and he gives it to me. And I go, skip it, he do da. And my kids will call, how you doing? I'm doing great, really? I said, yeah. I have God's peace and joy. What else is there, honey?  But nothing's really changed, mom.  You still don't have a husband. We're not still new. And the problem is I bypass all that and I go straight to this. Amen. I wanna share with you a few things. I wanna share with you a story I normally don't share but I really felt led to share this story. I lived in Arizona, actually represented Arizona. I'm a former Mrs. America and I lived in Arizona for 10 years. I tell people, I was a Jew that wandered around the desert and moved to California. The Promised Land is the real truth. And if you've never been to Arizona before just take your blow-dryer on high and put it in your mouth. That's it and you're there. But while I was there, there was a couple that wanted to open up in the mountains of Arizona an amusement park, like a train Western town that would only be run by handicapped people. So it was really special for parents that had handicapped children because you could only be employed there if you were handicapped. And I thought, what a beautiful idea, right? And so, and they lived on the center and they had like a hundred positive, well so while they're building it, the couple that was building it, the husband was a builder and electrician.  Now you would immediately go, God, are you kidding me? He is building things for handicapped. Now he's doing the good work and his hands are now gone. But he will tell you the same thing I will tell you now. I've been through a lot way before the four years and I thought I had a testimony. I always had a heart for God like I was starting to tell you earlier and I've always had a heart for God's people but I now have the compassion unlike I've never known. And he tells people when he gives the tour of this place. I had a heart for handicapped but now I understand why. And I'm not sure what you feel like you're throwing in your flushes or your handicap is or what you aren't but I can tell you this. If it's given by the God, it's a gift. I'm dyslexic, I can't even read my own books. I barely got out of high school with D's and I really did have an English teacher that told me I was born to lose in life and if you get into my books you'll need to read them backwards but don't worry they're still anointed. And there was a time when dyslexia was of great benefit to me once I tried to take my life and I jumped behind the bus. But what?  And I said listen, God had to pick someone that had no thoughts of their own because I don't get in the way of God. I said that's why I write books in his voice. Holy Spirit blows right through the air hole. But if I had degrees and I was an incredible award winning writer from high school and I won public speaking awards all the credit would go to me because all I really wanted to be was an ice skater just so you know and I was pretty good and I was on my way to training for the Olympics and my parents divorced and my mom took that money and spent it on clothes so she could date men, took me off the ice, left me home with her, my step-brother who was a drug dealer who started getting me stoned at 10 years old and my dream went away and that's why you see my before picture drug didn't overweight. But today, if I were to get the dream I wanted at best I would be at grandma's on ice. And my gold medal would mean nothing. It would not leave a legacy for my little grand babies. It would not leave a legacy for my children. It would not do anything for you, maybe I could come up here and shine it, I could bring it up here, oh look at this. But think about right now, maybe you're in this room and you can't dance because you're so disappointed because you didn't get what you dreamed for and then you held on to a scripture that was misquoted, Ephesians 320, he is able to exceedingly abundantly more than you'd ever get a dream. No, a dyslexic writing, that's selling books, that's exceedingly abundantly more. In other words, he wants to do something exceedingly abundantly more through you that will outlive you. You forget, you're just visiting for a little bit and we're out of here.  And I wanna say, we're all terminal. You could be dead tomorrow. You could beat me to heaven. My point is, we live too much like this is it. No, this is our chance to let God do exceedingly abundantly more than we'd ever dare to dream for future generations to make a mark with our lives. This is our chance to fight in the greatest army of all times. And to be able to say, I have fought the good fight, I have kept my faith, so here's my question to you. If God had given you your dream, would it have blessed anybody but you? If God had given you your will, would it in any way impacted the future of your children and your grandchildren?  And maybe you came here tonight and maybe God's giving me the stamina to stand right now for this moment for you to say, thank you God for what you removed so I can now move into your perfect will and do your work so you can do exceedingly abundantly more through me now that I'm finally surrendered. See, when the military signs up, they get no choice where they're stationed and they know they're gonna fight, why are we shocked when the fight of the enemy is not fair? The fight will never be fair. John 1010, he comes to kill, steal and destroy. Call me crazy, that doesn't sound like he's gonna fight fair. When my daughter said to me a few weeks ago because since she has said yes to ministry, a lot has happened and she, just inside herself and she called me once and she goes, am I always gonna struggle? And you know, mommy wants to comfort, right? And the Holy Spirit just went, I said yes. What? Yes, it may not be what you're struggling with now but you will always struggle until you learn to fight. So the next four months before you leave on the battlefield as much as I wanna love you and make up for all the mommy time I missed for you because of this cancer, I am gonna teach you how to fight instead and you will have victory over whatever comes against you because your comfort will not help you, my comfort will not help you but if I teach you how to combat and let the Holy Spirit comfort you, that will be with you forever, baby.  I know we wanna protect but we've got to protect her. And right now we need to go back out where we belong on the battlefield. That's what we were born for. We're his princess warriors. We're called to dance on the battlefield. We can do this in Christ's name and if you get a passion and a purpose and I said to the Lord a few weeks ago, I was praying and I was like, Lord I don't have the same passion for your people that I had when I was in these big arenas. I don't have, I feel like my passion is not as powerful.  They can work off my power.  It can change you tonight. I can get up here and do a little cheer. Give me a W, give me an A, give me an R. I, O, R, warrior. But that is not gonna do anything.  Many of you are only still hurting because you've never allowed that season of mourning. You've done everything you could to avoid it like I did. Everything. It was the hardest thing for me when the counselor who I spoke for all these counselors helped them go back to their ministry on fire and now they're helping me. It was first of all, humiliating if I were to be brutally honest that here I was their speaker and now I'm under their care. But when the one counselor said to me, have you ever cried or mourned the fact that you were never tucked in bed as a child?  Have you ever cried for all the loss? I said, I don't want to. I don't wanna feel it. And she goes, and that's why the cancer's spreading. Those tears and that mourning are a gift. And she gave me every scripture. Then she took me through the word and found out what I aligned with, which is a lie and that's what I've been doing for my daughter and I pray that you do it for yourself and for your daughters. So she would say something and I'd go, give me a scripture that proves that that is true about you. You know how we hate ourselves and we find everything we don't like about ourselves and everything wrong with us. And so we speak it out loud and we speak what we think about ourselves and we repeat what others say about us more than we will repeat what God says about us. So I said, lesson number one in combat. The word is a two-edged sword.  Speak it out loud. I can't, I don't feel it. Speak it out loud. Now she's like, I am so happy. I learned to speak the word out loud. I said, absolutely. I said, your mind has a million thoughts. Your mouth can only say one thing.  Wouldn't you like to have recycled truth instead of recycled trash? Who's here is ready for truth. I want the living water. I'm done with the muddy water. And I muddy up the water myself by the things I say. As a man thinks, so is he. When I started to believe the lie I couldn't come tonight and I was gonna have to cancel two hours before. I went, wait, who's that from? That is not from God.  I do have what it takes to come here and speak in minister to my sisters in the Lord. I will do what God's asked me to do. He will give me a fresh message. I am gonna come and do what he's called me to do and I'm gonna enjoy it. Ah, thank you.  She gave her last two cents. Prior to this attack and there were two other betrayals that happened that I'll never publicly talk about. But the psychiatrist convention that I spoke at said that very few people would even survive one of the seven things I walked through at the same time. And that's why he had to send me an entire psychiatry convention to help me. Because Satan came in like a flood and said I'm gonna hit her at every angle until she cannot function anymore. But I had some bookings I had to complete before I came off the road and they weren't letting me out and I would tell them I can't. I am crippled. And I never knew you could be crippled in pain. Like I never knew you couldn't actually get up past pain until this moment. Because I was forced to feel so much at the same time. And the Lord said the widow gave her last two cents and that was enough. And I realized I was the rich man prior to that. What happened? Not in money. I was the rich man in passion and joy and couldn't wait to get on that platform. I couldn't wait to kick the devil's tushy. Couldn't wait to see God's will. And now I'm getting up and I had to open up by saying I'm the widow tonight. I don't know if I'll be able to stand up here even for 20 minutes I'm in so much emotional pain. But I will give you whatever two cents I have left and I'd get a standing ovation. You know why? Because it set women free to have a leader get up and say there are moments. There was one pastor that was so mad that I wanted to cancel and I got to ask him this question. He was in his 60s. I said sir, how many years have you been in ministry? And he had said like 25, 30, 40 years. I can't remember. I said if you had a day that life was so hard you had to give someone else your Sunday morning service. And he said I am so sorry young lady how I treated you. I've had many days like that. You are released. You stay home in peace. We forget sometimes how we felt in that moment where we couldn't push through. But compassion I'm telling you from someone that's just walked through so much was the greatest gift ever. But now I'm done. I don't want compassion. I want someone to kick my tushy. I told my friends thank you for all your compassion. We're done. My pity party's over. Now I just want you to speak life and say get over it.  We've already processed this, it's over. But it took me three years to be able to say to the same friends, stop judging me, stop expecting me to be who I was. It's like what they did to Rick Warren and Kay Warren. They were expecting them to be the same where after their kid was killed. I'm like are you kidding me? It's like going into a piece of someone's life like if you went to King David when he was sinning with the sheba you wouldn't be thinking of him as the man after God's own heart. If you went to him when he was in a cave crying you wouldn't be thinking about him as a guy after God's own heart. Don't judge people by one season in their life and don't judge yourself by one season in your life.    He loves you so much. And it says that people are to mourn with those who mourn. Weep with those who weep. Rejoice with those who rejoice. So if someone has made you feel bad for processing pain I'm so sorry. I just want you to know that wasn't God. And sometimes people don't mean any harm to be honest. There were people that didn't mean any harm with me. They just wanted me to get up and get over it and get back on that platform. Who cares? You can just shake it off. You know what I wanted to say? I wanted to say I wanted to break your legs with a baseball bat and say walk it off. That's what I wanted to say. Because when you are hurting that bat emotionally and somebody tells you to shake it off. Seriously, give me a baseball bat. Okay, walk it off but my legs are broken. I don't care.  So three questions I'm gonna answer for you that I know people have right now worldwide. This is what people want to know from you as a Christian. And you as a Christian may be wanting to know this yourself. But here's the number one question that everybody's asking right now after Las Vegas shootings and after child molesting and churches falling. Here is the question they're asking. Why God? First question that comes out. Why God? Here's the first thing I'm gonna say to defend my heavenly father and I hope you will join me in this in the future. Why are we blaming God for Satan's work? Does that help anybody in this room? It'd be like someone coming in your house and kidnapping your children while you were out of town and them asking you why you weren't there to protect them. Why are we blaming God for Satan's work? Jesus already told us the prince of this world is the devil and that there will be troubles in this world. So the first thing that Satan wants to do is have you blame God because while you're hurting and he's hit you, his next step is to disconnect you from your father. Right? If they hurt your children, then they disconnect from the parent. They got a winner in the world of evil. So I had to learn John 1010, Satan comes to Killstone and the next one is this. Where is God? I had that question over and over again to myself. God, really, where were you in this? Where is the payoff in this? And he brought me to four people. Daniel could have easily said, why is Daniel being thrown in the lion's den? Let's put a backslidden Christian in the lion's den, let him get reacquainted with God. I mean, Daniel is a good, godly man and he's the one being thrown in the lion's den. Really? Let's just get a very, very carnal Christian, throw them in there. But that's where God was in the lion's den. And that's what it took for the entire land, including the king, to turn to the true God. So what I had to learn when I asked God before I did my Facebook simulcast is I said, why have you not healed me when I can get up and I could show that the tumors are gone because you certainly can. You certainly have the power to do it. And that's what he showed me. He said, because I want them to see your battle scars and that you will get up and serve me whether I heal you or not. Why Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego? Great guys, godly guys, why are they throwing a fiery furnace? Where's God? He was in that furnace with them. Where's God?  It could have been 20 years ago, could have been 10 years ago, five years ago or five minutes ago. But you walked through something that you didn't think you were coming out of and you're here today and you're out. Raise your hand. Look at the room. You know what's happened, you all? We forgot the last time God rescued us.  I'm gonna sleep for a year and try to recuperate my savings account.  But that's what we do to God. We forget quickly. Like, I forgot how crippled I was, how I couldn't get out of bed until one of my friends came and visited me two weeks ago and went, wow, you are so healed and so happy. And I'm like, am I? I am. Because I forgot. Because I'm healed. There's no more tears to cry that I can think of so now I put my false eyelashes back on. Because it wasn't worth it before. Isaiah 43, oh, the other two people, sorry, Joseph in prison. Really? The man with integrity? The man that didn't rape the girl? He's the one that's gonna go to prison? Where was God? He was with him, preparing him, gave him in the right position so he could finish in a palace.  No, that's not how the story goes. There was a healing process in the middle. There was a time where he recognizes that his brothers, but they don't recognize him and he tests them and he actually put something on them that makes him look and falsely accuses them and throws them in prison, then he makes them go back and get their brother. In other words, he tests their heart because God's words has guard your heart. It's the wellspring of life. You must hear this. If you've had abuse, forgiveness is not fellowship. There is a big difference.  You need to be like Joseph. You need to follow the word of God. And if the heart is not repentant and healed and is not safe and they've done something to you or your children, you forgive them and you give them to God, but you don't hang out with your abuser. You can't find a scripture to back that. You can't even find a story in the Bible to back that. All of them and tell Joseph's brothers were fully repentant and broken. And here's what's interesting to me about that story. Once he realized that they realized what they did to him, they still didn't know him yet, right? It says he excused himself and what does it say next? He wept so hard it said that all of Egypt could hear. Now that doesn't sound like a story that he just embraced them and said, yay, you're all here, my abusers, come on in. No, God says, guard your heart.  If Jesus himself picked the 12 people to sit at his table, wouldn't he expect you to do the same? And I want you to notice something else about the Lord that I had to learn the hard way because I had a disaster in my home opening my heart. Even the good Samaritan that helped the bloody man on the side of the road took him to a hotel, not his home. Jesus did not invite anybody to the table of 12. His inner circle was protected and he's the savior.    Would you invite someone to hang out with them for the sake of calling it witnessing that would take them away from God? Well then why would God do that to you? I hope that sets a lot of people free in this room because it wasn't until I got some really good Godly counsel from some mighty, mighty leaders that said you've got to stop opening your home and your heart to people that you don't know who they are. God didn't ask you to do that, so don't blame God for what happened. And they challenged me to find a Bible story. I couldn't, if they're not part of your purpose, they don't need to be sitting at your table. If they're not drawing you close to God, go meet them. When you go minister to people, do be like Jesus along the way, by the way. Your ministry doesn't have to be in your home. Bring people in your home that love God as much as you do that you can have Bible studies together and you can support each other and you can help each other. But go to their home before you let your kids hang out with them. Know the homes that your kids are walking in because I'm the one that gets hundreds of emails from women all over the world because of my His Princess book that have had disasters with their good, sweet heart that opened their home to situations that God never asked them to open up and they can't find a scripture to back at even. And as soon as I say that, I find a scripture that says open your home to evil people. So you can minister to them. No, you go meet them. You go out and meet them and you put events together for them, but you don't bring danger into your private space any more than Jesus did. Who does that set free in this room? A lot of you. Yes, I know. It set me free like nobody's business. And I realized that we're valuable. When you are in a military base, are we allowed to go on the military base? Just because we want to? No, and we're the people the military protects, but you gotta have your ID. You have to be invited. You don't get in those private spaces. Sorry to park here so long, but I am over 55 and I don't really care what you think. I care about protecting you. And so I'm okay not winning you over. I'm really okay. And then the third question is, now what do I do? Where was God when that thing hit? Why God first? Well, now we know it was Satan. Where's God? He's right there in the mix of it with you working out on your behalf. And what do I do now? Because I had to go to God and go everything I lived for is gone, Lord. Everything, my open house and my open heart and my children and my family and everything I fought for and everything I, and I've served you and I had all these questions. Now what do I do? And God brought me to two things. He brought me to Nehemiah, how it was from the wreckage that God rebuilt a better wall. Satan wants to whisper to us right now, you can't dance on the battlefield. Look at all the wreckage.  I couldn't find my foundation. And then I realized God didn't want me to find my foundation here on earth. He wanted me to flip my foundation up in heaven and live driven by eternity. And then I wouldn't have to worry about it being shaken or taken. And he wanted me to begin to lay stones for eternity and to make decisions for eternity. Because when we care more about people's feelings than our father's will being done, we're not gonna be blessed, we're gonna be messed. We really are, we're gonna be messed with bad. So you have to be careful that you live like Jesus because if we're a Christian, we're following Christ. And Christ wasn't real concerned about people's feelings. He was concerned about saving people and people's pain, right?  I'm gonna stop preaching the truth. Can you imagine? So if we're Christians, let's have the same bravery our savior did. And I used to say to people, I will not apologize for God's word. How many of us remember willing to say I will not apologize for truth? Raise your hand. I will not apologize for truth. I will not apologize for God's word. Job had to make a what should I do now? He lost everything. He could have walked away and wiped away his witness and he would have missed the grand finale of his life.  He's not even with you anymore. And he goes, though he slays me, I will not curse him. And then God gave him back twice as much as he lost and hopefully a new wife that could speak life. And that's where I'm gonna lead you here. When you're in a battle, when you're in a crisis, when you're walking through a battle, do not put people in your life that are Eeyours. It's gonna be another bad day. Praise God. You're never coming out of this. Yes.  You really need someone that's a ticker. We're gonna run, we're gonna jump, we're gonna find our tail. Oh no, that's Winnie the Pooh. We're gonna help Winnie the Pooh find his tail.   And that's what people would do to me. I had a team of people that have known me 20 years. They're on my advisory board, they've walked with me. They treated me exactly the same respect when I was vomiting from cancer, heartbroken from my family, did not want to minister anymore, wondered where God is, and they would still talk to the princess inside of me. They were Abigail's to me.  And he said to her, is your destiny worth it? And they would say to me, you have a legacy. It won't go away no matter who hurt you and what they did to you. You have a legacy, you will rise again. You will do this again. And I'd be like, you're on drugs, truly.  They would not join forces with me. They spoke to who I really am. They spoke to who I really am and who I have been my entire life. Speak to the death. I mean, speak life to the death. Find the death in your kids and speak life to it.  I don't care what you say. And I have my daughter say it to me all the time.  You would like clap if I pooped, you know? And I'm like, yes, I would. Yes, I would because that's healthy. And that means you ate your fiber. My point is speak life first to yourself because if you don't put your oxygen mask on, you cannot help anybody else.   I like things organized, okay? I am a sanguine, but I somehow like everything in order. And I was gonna spend today, and I talked to Connie, right? And she was too, I was going, Connie, my nails are horrible. And I still have my sycosm pact and we both looked each other and went, let's not get our nails done. Let's grab some wraps before this event and let ourself have a break. My room looks like a cyclone in it, which makes me crazy. But I have enough energy now to give you that I could have given to my suitcase. And you wouldn't have cared. My suitcase has no eternal value. My color-coded closet is nice, I love it, but it has no eternal value. It just makes me happy here on earth. Joseph could have missed that grand finale of his life. Jesus, I just think of Luke 22, 42. Father, if you are willing, please take this cup of suffering away from me. Yet I want your will, but not mine. And I remember telling God when I went out to speak, I was so confident that he was gonna have me healed Monday night, that I was gonna get on that Facebook live and everybody was praying and people were fasting. And Lord goes, you are healed. How do you think you're standing?  Because my daughters walk by faith, not by sight. And then everything else follows. That's what I'm learning now. I wanna close with this letter. I have a new journal. You have a pre-order form, I think, that was given out. And it's coming out June 15th, and it's Warrior Letters for His Princess Warriors. And then it has a journal page and then it has 50 of my truths, like I shared tonight with Power Truth. And I wanna close with this letter. It's My Princess Warrior. I have created a time for every season in life. This is my perfect timing for my plan. Right now, my beloved, it is time for war. The enemy's attacks are great. It's time for you, my princess, to put on the full armor and fight. I know the battles you face will not be easy, but I will be with you and they will be worth fighting. Your fight will not be wasted. It will live on long after you're gone and we're celebrating your life in eternity. But for now, look around you, my beloved warrior. See that you are much needed on the battlefield now. There is nothing for you to fear, for you will not be defeated.  Soon I will return and this war will be for everyone. Love your king. Is there anybody that could do guitar or music for a second? That would be such a gift to me. Thank you, I have no gift of music whatsoever. If you're in this room tonight and you don't know the Lord, you aren't here by accident. And maybe you've tried everything. I didn't come to know the Lord till I was 24 and I was at the end of my rope when I was on the top. I had won beauty pageants, I'd lost weight, I got off drugs and I was more and more depressed because no matter how I decorated myself, I needed peace and purpose. I needed a savior, but I didn't know it as Jewish, so of course Jesus would be the last place I'd go. But right now, this moment has been orchestrated for you to know him. So with every eye closed for a minute, out of respect to those that just need to have a moment with God.  Slip your hand up, praise God. Just slip your hand up, praise God, praise God. Repeat this prayer with me everybody, so our sisters that are about to come into the kingdom aren't alone. Dear Jesus, thank you for giving your life for mine. Thank you that all I have to do is ask you to forgive me and you will. So now I take a step of faith and I say, forgive me of my sins. I take a step of faith and I ask you into my heart right now. And I receive you as my Lord and savior. If you're here right now, and maybe you were where I was three years ago, you're pretty wounded. You've been beaten pretty bad. Satan has had a field day with you and you're like, I got a glimmer of who I really am tonight and I need a touch from the savior. I am like that bleeding woman that needs to touch and feel the power of God again. I need a healing touch physically, emotionally or spiritually. Raise your hand. Lord, you see your daughter's hand right now. She's reaching out to you and she's saying, touch me. Give me a new peace, a new purpose, a healing unlike no other. God, you promise that you are close to the broken heart. And so whatever they need to do to get healed, whether it's cry, whether it's to get counsel, whether it's to do something out of the ordinary that's obedient, whatever it is you show them by the power of your Holy Spirit, what that is. Maybe there's something they need to let go over someone, but whatever it is you know and we ask that you would touch them now in Jesus name.


Firstly, let me share with you my favorite description of the BEPS process. I won't read it out to you, you can see it on the screen. I draw your attention to two sentences in particular. One that says holding companies, private agreements, patent monopolies, offices registered in small and tolerant countries. And then the last sentence reads, nobody very much likes a successful entrepreneur. I think that's also true today. Now there are two interesting things about this quotation. One is the, which, which is a quote from somebody who is addressing an organization that's engaged in BEPS. One interesting thing is the identity of the redacted name, and the third is the date. Although you can probably see from the references to the common market that it's likely out of date. So the organization referred to as something called the Intel organization. And the quote comes from page 30 of a science fiction novel called Andromeda Breakthrough by Fred Hoyle and John Elliott, published in 1962, long before the real Intel was ever formed. I think this merely, this shows to me two things. First of all, Fred Hoyle, who is a very well-known and distinguished astronomer in the UK, and no mean writer of science fiction, also had a great appreciation of international tax planning opportunities. But as a science fiction fan, you can imagine my delight when, on my way to the first meeting of the expert group on the digital economy in Brussels, when I found, first, a bus stop, and secondly, a bus both headed for Andromeda. But who is this really about? So part of our briefing in the expert group involved this wonderful picture from an economist article called The Relents of GAFA, again an imaginary location containing Google Earth, Fortress, Facebook, Appalachia, and Amazonia. And in all of the discussions on the digital economy and the tax contribution of the digital economy, we see to keep coming back to a very small number of companies who are very widely represented throughout the world. But what is it that distinguishes the digital economy? I think it's four things. It's disappearing borders in four different dimensions. Firstly, geographic borders are much less relevant. And secondly, we're seeing an erosion of the boundaries between sectors of the economy, between media and technology and various other areas. And we're seeing interchangeability between digital and analog versions of things, so a book and an e-book, for example. And very interestingly, we're seeing an erosion of the boundary between classical production and classical consumption, so the ability to have a globally based car boot sale through some of the sharing websites. And of course lastly, erosion of the boundaries between goods and services. And this erosion of boundaries makes it necessary to consider whether the international tax rules are fit for purpose. And we usually have this discussion in the context of the direct tax rules. And in evaluating whether they're fit for purpose or not, we need to consider what is their effect. Well, their effect is, and has been for the guts of the last century, that if you have sales into a territory, you do not report corporate income in that territory, and therefore you do not pay direct tax in that territory. Secondly, there is no corporate taxation without a permanent establishment, which does not include either a warehouse or a website. And thirdly, it seems to be readily possible to report and disclose high levels of profits in tax havens or in entities that are not subject to tax. And I think it's probably this last feature of the international tax system currently that makes it particularly important to start addressing that issue. And that arises because of a mismatch between national tax systems. So that national tax systems throughout the world are like pieces of a jigsaw, but they're not joined up to make an overall coherent picture. And in the spaces between the jigsaw pieces, there are many opportunities to lose profits, to report profits in areas where the activities are not taking place. The OECD response to this via the BEPS process is a painstaking and careful attempt to join up those jigsaw pieces in a coherent manner so that everybody pays tax somewhere, which I think is a very good initial principle to operate on. However, the current juncture that we're at really gives us an opportunity to think more carefully and more strategically, perhaps, about fundamental concepts of tax thresholds and allocation of tax base between countries, and particularly in the context of multi-nationally operating entities. And a good framework that we might consider doing this is the framework provided by the Merlis Review in the UK, where really there are four sets of players within a multinational enterprise operating in all the countries in which it operates. Firstly, and very importantly, there is the jurisdiction of the parent and how it exercises its jurisdiction to tax over the operations of the multinationals. And secondly, there's what Merlis calls source, but really it's the country where the operations take place. So where the factories are, where the shared services are, where the R&D take place. Thirdly, there are the destination countries into which the sales are made. And lastly, but very importantly in an international context, there are the financing countries. So these are the places providing the debt and the equity finance. And obviously for a multinational, both equity and debt will be sourced in very many different jurisdictions. And until we create an international tax system or a series of national tax systems where the relationship between these four pieces are coherent, it seems to me that we are going to continue to flounder. If we were designing an international tax system, Abenicio, we would probably focus on some first principles. And of course, in these discussions, the economists are always to the fore. So we would undoubtedly have as our first port of call economic efficiency, a tax system to minimize the effect on behavior. And related to that, a tax system to minimize the distortion of competition. We would need to give some consideration to distribution of equity. I think that's particularly difficult in an international corporate tax context. And I wouldn't myself hold out any prospect that would go more than seeking to achieve the consent of the producing and the consuming countries in that system. And last but certainly not least, we would want efficient compliance and administration so it would be inexpensive to comply with the tax system. Taxes would be administered fairly and transparently and we would have a tax system that was stable over time. Now, that would be a wonderful starting point if we were designing a tax system for the planet. But we're not. We're designing the interaction of many differing national tax systems. And as of right now, I don't see any country that is prepared to cede a significant amount of sovereignty. And in particular, that is prepared to say I won't put the position of my citizens and my companies first in negotiating through this process. So I hope the BEPS process will be successful. In the longer term, I suppose the policy options that are up for consideration are how robust are the transfer pricing rules. And in particular, will the current BEPS process make them robust and up to seal up those gaps between the different jigsaw pieces? The second longer term policy option for consideration is what is an appropriate tax base and allocation method as between countries. Now, I see this debate as a big battle between the gods, okay? In one corner, we have the God of Arms Length Pricing, where profit is allocated according to functions performed, taking account of assets used and risks borne. Too often, as that is currently applied, the result bears no relationship to economic reality and results in artificial manipulation of assets and risks. We had a number of good examples of that from sorely at the earlier presentation. So that needs to be fixed in the BEPS process and it needs to be fixed fairly quickly. However, in another corner, we have the God of Formula Reapportionment, much beloved of the commission. This will allocate profits by reference to a formula such as sales, payroll, and fixed assets. But that result is going to reallocate the corporate income tax base from producing countries to consuming countries. And I see it as sucking the tax base into the consuming countries, in my view, an inappropriate way. It can also result in hugely irrational business decisions. Because for example, in taking a business decision on whether or not to outsource, you would need to factor in that outsourcing could have an enormous impact on your tax burden internationally. So in looking at the longer term and in looking at the policy options that are available, I think it's very important to bear in mind, well, okay, we have among the academic community the God of Economic Neutrality. Now, nobody is doing that at the moment, but it would allocate corporate cash flow based on the destination of sales. And it would completely shift the corporate income tax base to the location of consumption. So that both that and CT would be allocated based exclusively on sales. What's important here is that we have a pie of taxes, not a slice of taxes. So corporate tax has taken the bulk of the debate so far. We need to bear in mind that tax is collected in three ways in this respect, corporate tax, VAT, and income tax, or capital gains tax. And so, for example, those base eroding companies generally have their shares owned by people or organizations or other entities. And they are subject to income tax and capital gains tax when they sell the shares. On VAT, we were fortunate in the EU expert group to have already a firm foundation within the VAT system and to have a well-developed series of policy options. I think it's generally recognized internationally that the ideal outcome on VAT will be neutrality and an operation of the destination principles for the supply of all goods and services. And on 1st of January next, we're going to take a brave step in that direction within the EU when we will have a one stop shop for registration and remittance. So essentially, one member state will collect all of the tax and will divide that at the rates in the country of destination and will divide that out to the other member states. Within the expert group, we were very much of the opinion that this is only a first step and that we need to build incrementally beyond the electronically supplied services that will come in on 1st of January to a full destination-based VAT system so that the entire VAT revenue would accrue to the destination location. In VAT, as in most taxes, administration is the key. So it's absolutely essential in moving forward in VAT reform that we make registration, reporting, payment, compliance, and indeed audit work efficiently. And there are huge opportunities to use technology to do that. And I think our own raw system is a beacon of light in a dark world there. Secondly, once we move this concept outside the EU, we will need to be prepared to extend tax treaty provisions to cover indirect taxes. And we will need to promote common global standards, both within the OECD and outside the OECD. And most importantly, we will need to promote effective and joined up tax administration everywhere. We are facing probably some of the most fundamental changes in the international tax system in many decades. It seems to me that there are a number of conditions for the delivery of effective solutions. But I think the choices are about political economy, rather than merely economics. We have to make choices regarding the balance between source and residents' countries. We have to make choices about the balance between how the tax is collected in reference to production and consumption of resources that are increasingly scarce. And we have to draw a balance between powerful corporations and policy makers with divergent objectives. So that task is yet before us. Thank you.