Okay, welcome everybody to the June 22nd hyperledger technical oversight committee call. As I believe everybody on the call has been here before you are aware that we have two things that we must divide by. The first is the anti trust policy that is currently displayed on the screen. And the second is our code of conduct which is linked in the agenda. So, for announcements today we have the hyperledger dev weekly developer newsletter that goes out each Friday if you do have anything that you want to include in that newsletter. Please do leave a comment on the wiki page that it's linked in the agenda. I also had a comment in here to have you review the encourage projects to set annual goals. There's been a few of us that have reviewed that or no I did see your message about not merging this until we merge 123, which we will be discussing today. So, I think you know there's still a few folks that need to review the encourage projects to set annual goals but we did talk about it last week and I think everybody was on board with it so just to give your thumbs up on GitHub itself. We've also got a workshop that is coming up on July 11. For the hyperledger areas framework JavaScript release. So how you set up an agent and issue credentials is the topic there so if you are interested please do click on the link there in the agenda for any additional details on how to attend that workshop. Any other announcements that anybody would like to make. So then the next thing that we have on the agenda or quarterly reports, we did get the cello report to come in this week. I did see a few comments on there are no I think I also read your comment on that one this morning. I think that they actually did do the release but yet they in the current kind of where the last quarter plans they they commented that they were working on it. I was also confused by that. As I read it so I think I convinced myself that it was correct but we'll see what the cello folks have to say about that but I don't think it is out in fact I looked at the repo and the change log. It says 0.9 I think or something like this so it doesn't talk about the one zero. I was like, okay, I wasn't sure how to figure it out but well there it is. So the change log file I guess is not up to date. Yeah okay so it is confusing. Yeah, at least we can redo that. I also read it and I was like wait, what you said you released it how can you be working on it. So I'm, yeah, I definitely had to convince myself that that was what it seems to be two versions in fact there is two one zero versions there is the one zero where I guess they froze the code. There is the one zero GA. I think that's where it becomes confusing but see prepare for the one zero GA. Yeah, so the this is labeled as pre release. The GA is pre release from November, and then one zero came out. Okay, so one zero is more recent okay so. Yeah, so the report is needs a bit of fixing. Yeah, yeah. Thanks. We'll try and get that updated. Were there any other comments that anybody had on the cello report that we should talk about. Okay. So we don't have any past due reports. We are expecting to get the base due and the caliber report today. So we should be able to hopefully have those on the agenda for next week. We're still waiting for some answers to some questions and I did see some grammar changes as well being reflected there so we'll wait to get that one merged into the repo until we get those answers back. Any questions on the reports. For discussion today. We do have the annual review policy I did make some changes based on our conversation last week that are listed in the agenda here. I think there's just a few outstanding questions. The first is the timeline. I did see on the poll that seven folks had selected that they would like it to be within a single quarter so I did make that change yesterday. You can see in the timeline that first sentence is the annual reviews will replace the Q one quarterly report. So just wanted to talk about that make sure everybody was okay and if there were any concerns there because I know not everybody had a chance to vote on the timeline. Pull that was out there. Okay. There's no concerns there. I think the second open item was the number of folks that need to be responsible. So the number of responsible TLC members Rama I think you had suggested that we have at least two people who are responsible. So I wanted to see I couldn't remember last week. If we had come to any sort of decision on whether or not it would make sense to have to corroborating opinions. My biggest concern with having two people responsible is that if two people are responsible, nobody's responsible. And so I want to make sure that we definitely have, you know, at least one person that we can go to to have, you know, responsible for the reviews but if we do think we need a backup or a second person to, you know, help gather any sort of information. That's fine. But wanted to talk about that with the TOC and see what thoughts were. Peter. We could mark one of them as primary and the other one is backup secondary or observer, or any other label, in my opinion. Okay, so you're in favor of to then Peter. Yes, but I also agree with what you said is that if it's not a single person responsible then no one's responsible. Yeah. Okay. Marcus. I also like having two people responsible here and maybe not as a primary and secondary but more like a good cop and bad cop position. I know I'm just joking. No, I think it's nice to have two people. I'm just, I'm smiling here with a good cop bad cop. I think that's an interesting, an interesting idea I don't know that I'm, I think I feel like I'm labeled as a bad cop anyway so, but I maybe I don't want to be labeled as bad cop so let's, let's maybe not label ourselves as bad cop circuit cops because that might end up being a concern for folks but I think it's, it's amusing to me. I like it, but I don't like it. So right. I guess my question is what level of staff involvement. Do you want, which is to say how much do you want me to get involved. If at all. Is this something should the staff have a role in this, possibly as the bad cop possibly as a mediator, or just do it as the currently, as it's done currently with the quarterly reports. I ask primarily around the saw, you know the turbulence that I created around the sawtooth report. So right, I think, as far as staff involvement in the actual reviews, the thing that I think we can take and use as the work that you've done to really gather some analytics around when main heiners have been last contributing or those sorts of things so I think that the data gathering is a thing that you already do and that we could utilize. So I guess for me, you know, I would like to continue to have you run those or to utilize that data. That's, I think my thought on staff involvement but and obviously the other pieces that are defined currently in the document which is to send out the notifications of the information that's due that the report is due. I think is the one piece that I have in there. And then the timeline I think is the second piece that I have staff responsibility for. Okay, I'm just quickly for everyone that's not aware. I run this script every day, and it tracks.  In terms of GitHub involvement, and then on each repo, I have I can look and see what has Timo done for the last year and it gives me the dates of every activity for the project that the Timo has done. And I think that's one of the stats that I'm collecting. Yeah, any, any other things that the GSC thinks the staff would be helpful in providing with these annual reviews. Okay. So, right now I have at least two people who've given kind of a, or maybe it's three people I guess that have given the yes let's have more than one person. Assigned to these project annual reviews. Is there any other thoughts on that dissenting thoughts or if not I will make that change to reflect kind of that primary secondary. Whatever we decide we're going to call it in the annual review when I write it. Okay. So if we have no dissenting that's what I'll do I'll make that change to reflect that. The last thing that I did with Steven had recommended that we put together a template specifically for answering the questions about the content of the annual report so I did do that in the previous slide where I just put together a template and so I wanted to just take a look at that template and see if there's anything else that anybody is interested in making sure that we include in that template as we go forward. So, I don't know if you would mind bringing up the template in the pull request. The items that are listed here used to be in the content section of the PR. What I did is I just moved them to the template itself. So I'm going to take a look around the project health and including links to the LF insights page and, you know, providing commentary on what we're seeing in those insight pages as far as, you know, our do we see increasing or consistent with that that maintain our diversity which I think is important for us to really understand and dig into and think about a project adoption so do we do we know who's adopted the project do we understand if there's companies that are using the project or not. And then goals so for goals we have the performance against the prior goals. And we also have information about like the goals for the next year. So, if you wouldn't mind right just scrolling down in the template. Any sort of help that is required to meet the upcoming goals that that can be listed and then if the project has any changes that they would recommend for themselves as far as the life cycle states that they're in. So, you know, wanted to check in with the to see and see if they thought there was any other sorts of things that we should be asking of the projects as we look at the annual review, instead of the quarterly review. Stephen. One suggestion might be to try to be try to make this a little more factual so one thing we could do for example, scroll to the maintainers section. Request that they put a link in to the maintainers file from last year and the one from this year. And obviously the first year, you know, maybe we don't get that but but try to be try to tie it to actual like specific information then add commentary about it. Ask them to add commentary so link to last year's link to this year's comments about how many you have same with the goals because we want to encourage them to have we want to encourage all projects to have goals. And then a link to the goals from last year for the goals from this year and then commentary about it. And that would give us that combination of, you know, acts as well as discussion about those facts. So of course people to have a maintainer diversity file or sorry, a maintainers file and to keep it up to date. Okay. Thanks Stephen you were breaking up there at the end a bit but I think I did get it all. Unless it's me that's breaking up, but we'll see if Marcus will clarify who was breaking up. It's not you it's me. Okay, yeah, that's fine. I think we got it all though Stephen. You're up Marcus. Yeah one thought I have here I mean the term. First of all, I like this template a lot I think that's good starting point. So when I think about the goals I mean the term goal sounds like a commitment and I think this is also the intention here which is good. But I believe, I mean we as a to see we would also maybe acquire some knowledge about other future work items or directions where a good project or the maintainers might think of, but they don't at this point want to commit to those directions as a goal because the goal is then maybe evaluated at some point and then we see hey, did they shift all the goals. But I mean if we have like an optional subsection of goals like future direction where they can put things they would like to explore in the future, without giving a strong commitment on certain things. That would be one thing I think would be interesting as well. Okay. Thanks for that Marcus Dave. Yeah, to follow on from what Stephen was saying kind of related to that for the maintainer diversity would also make sense to make sure that the maintainers files were up to date. And anybody that needs to be retired is retired so it's sometimes awkward to go to retire your, your colleagues on a project. And the annual review is a good force point to make that happen. And for maybe the TOC lead to be the bad cop in this case, and to make sure that the maintainers are all active and everything is healthy there. Yeah, I completely agree. Dave, I think it's important that we, we do point out where we've got issues with maintainer files that haven't retired particular maintainers that haven't contributed in the past year, or six months or whatever that number is that we we decide is important. So I can add some information there about just reminding people that they should be retiring their maintainers that are having been active. So this is in continuation to the goals and the future scope kind of discussion. I'm just out of sharing my opinion. I think it's okay to have goals set for instance goals are something that we want to achieve like said, measured way of saying, Hey, by the end of this year maybe we want. We want to achieve, let's say, a new major release for the project. And we would like this project to have adoption because of these major capabilities that we want to introduce. And I think it's okay to have diversion from the goals, if at all project wants to have in between the year, because of maybe changing priorities or due to, let's say the new set of maintainers coming and then they propose new set of features to work on. And then they decide, Hey, maybe our initial goals for not accurate, maybe we want to pivot it out. And we could provide an option in two ways. So there can be an. Add in them to the goals or maybe like an amendment to it as in when like maintainers decide to do it. Or the other option could be during annual review, the team who's a member who's responsible, they will be working with the project team and they will make sure this is communicated well, and I'm sure the project must have had done something in response. In something other than what they have already promised. And then you can definitely consider that something else as in response to the goals and then the amendments if any to the goals can be added later during the review process. Or it could be described in the annual review saying that we started with this and then during midpoint we decided to pivot it out like this. And then here we are at the end of year with these things in that can be a good thing to mention in the annual report as well. Yeah, yep. I do have the parenthetical there against the performance against prior goals that says we won't penalize you if your goals change for good reasons. Maybe I'll clarify that a bit more just to reflect a couple of things right like, I think it's also okay if you don't meet your goals, if you've made some progress towards those goals, right like, maybe you're 75% of the way towards the goal that you set at the beginning of the year. That's okay too right like you were you were working towards it and it just didn't happen within the year or or things like you said changed in some way and so that one maybe got be prioritized a bit. You know I think there's there's definitely reasons for goals to change and we have to be cognizant of that but I do also think that it's worth mentioning right a bit more in the instructions that you know, let us know what they were and let us know if you changed them and that sort of thing and just the commentary right I mean we're looking for information about what's happening with the project and whether or not they seem to be on track and in some way shape or form. So, part. Hey, thanks Tracy. So, I really agree with your last point there. And I think we should probably try to emphasize that you know projects will not be punished if they're you know doing good work, even if they sort of don't meet their goals. I worry that if we, if, if things even look a little bit punitive like if people are sort of afraid to not meet their goals they might set like overly conservative and goals. That are basically, you know, not really what they want to achieve but what they're sure they can achieve, if that makes sense. You know, and we'd probably like projects to list what they want to achieve not, you know what they're sure they can achieve the next year. So, you know, as you suggested making that language. You know, very non punitive I think is important, because that will give the TS that will encourage and incentivize projects to give the TSC the most accurate impression of what they want to do. Yep. Yep. And make some, some verbates changes there to reflect that. I think maybe even removing the word penalize. Right, like that implies that we were planning on penalizing somebody for something. So I'll work on just the phrasing there and, and trying really help people understand the importance of the annual views and what we're looking for right this is really a, let's see what you're, you're looking to accomplish. Let's see what you have accomplished. And, and, you know, I think it's, I think it's just important for us to be able to understand where projects are at. Okay, any other comments or thoughts to improve this change it. Okay, I will make the changes that we have discussed then for the annual review and the annual review template to get those changes in place. And move this from a draft PR to a to a non draft PR. And then we can review it that way. And maybe have a vote on it next week, if we're ready for that. Yeah, so that that's it for the annual review then I think now we're up to the task force discussions. I think it's up to you to take us through the rest of the meeting. Well then it's going to be a short one. All right, let me just some of what's going on with the two task force I'll start with the documentation task force. Due to the overwhelming applications to the mentorship program we have a great team going into the summer working with us. I'll call right now she's my mentee. So what we plan on doing is for right now I'm going to say suspend the task force reports to the TOC for the summer. So that we can meet our goals which is we have five areas we're working on one is the GitHub which Tracy you know how that's going trying to get that to prompt approach, a good template for new projects and some documents from the GitHub repos that are consistent with the look and feel of hyper ledger. So those are the two things for that we're working on getting some templates out there for people with the new look and feel and the new branding to support any kind of creativity they want to make that that easy for them to just put their knowledge down and not have to worry about the formatting or any of that kind of stuff. We're also working closely with the onboarding task force which, again, is a combined effort. So there are a lot of changes happening with the new website and the new branding so that are helping that piece is kind of slowed down until that happens. There are other spots where people come into the community like the discord and all those other places and we're trying to make it. Ben has defined four personas that come into hyper ledger we're trying to make it so those four personas, wherever they come in, can get to where they go, where they need to be and there's user guides and documentation support for them in all of those projects that they come in. And then with the best practices I know that that task force has had a documentation piece which our subcommittee is looking at their findings. And I know in our last meeting we kind of talked about how that's going to work into a badging process so we're on. We want to work with that as well. Another piece is the mentorship programs all have a documentation piece so we've sent out some members of our team. Well we were, we had a presence at the initial meeting offering our support, and some of our teammates have made associations with some of the lab projects, as well as some of the incubated and graduated projects to offer our documentation support. And basically what the task force wants to do in the summer is work on those things to get them down and so we can present them to you. The task force at the end of the summer, but I do think that the group wants to present what I just summed very quickly to the task force in a week or two with more specifics. And then we'll coincide again with the onboarding in a week or two. So that, let's say, in two weeks, the task force will present to the TOC exactly what our goals are for those topics I mentioned, and then we'll be on our way in the summer to So that's it for the two tasks force hopefully will be on the agenda in two weeks for a more formal goal setting with no punitive damages if we don't meet them kind of thing. Okay. And that that's going to be specifically in the task force meeting itself, if you will, right. The one that happens on Monday. Yes, correct. Those meetings will still stay every Monday and we're going to offer support to again we're going to try to hit every project. And every lab that needs document to support to offer that to see what it looks like so they have a contact person on the task force in case they get stuck with their documentation. Okay, great. Any questions for Bobby. So, next week I am on holiday. I will not be here. Arun, I believe is going to to run the meeting next week. So I think the item on the agenda for next week is the security task force which we had put off for this week. Meeting with the open SSF. So just want to confirm that the security task force will be ready to present next week. Right Tracy there is open SSF meet meeting next Wednesday will understand more after that meeting. The other agenda item that I could think of was last week there were asks and creating the templates for the annual goal setting that could be another topic. So we'll get started with the PR and we'll have those discussions with you. Okay, sounds great. Anything else that anybody would like to make sure is on the agenda for us to. All right, so if you do come up with anything. I definitely bring it in the to chat or finger room. He'll be walking through the agenda next week, and I will see you I guess in a couple of weeks. And unless there's anything else we will conclude the call but is there anything else before we do that. I'll just say out loud what I said on discord I've invited all the to see members to the private repo where I keep all the get up statistics. So, comments questions are. Enjoyed. You know, please help. All right, great. Thanks for that. All right, so we will talk to you. Some of you will talk again next week and I will definitely talk to you in two weeks time. Great. Great week.


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Hi, this is Josef Lombardi and welcome to a brand new episode of let's talk and today we have with us Andrew Beccany, principal engineer at caring group. Andrew is great to have you on the show Yeah, I think we're going to talk about a stateful workloads whether one should run database and Kubernetes or not How would you define a stateful workload? primarily for me persistent or a stateful workload is something we've got an application that has Unfortunately, it's a state of memory If that application needs to be say shut down, you know, forgetting about Kubernetes completely here Without application needs to be shut down. Typically the application will be writing to desk When the application comes back up, it will read from this and it will try and recover into the same state that the application was in before So I think the key takeaway is any application that's right Let's talk a bit about the the beginnings of Kubernetes it was State less but now folks are running a lot of a stateful workloads on Kubernetes You folks have been around for a while You have seen both side of the aisle, you know So talk a bit about how we have seen this, you know Of course with every technology folks do try to bring a lot of a lot of kind of use cases Which were not designed for that a specific technology Linux is a very good example Sometimes we are right. Sometimes we are wrong. But let's talk about how the you know Stateful workloads start making their way into Kubernetes and what are the arguments that hey, you should do that or not do that Back in the days early Kubernetes, right? We had a resource available to us called Petsets. So Petsets was almost a demeaning term for workloads that the developers of Kubernetes thought that perhaps particularly weren't well suited for and The Petsets have evolved into something called stateful sets now, which are very kind of mature. They've been Tied I think in like 1.6 Kubernetes. So they're very well known But essentially what a stateful set and the difference between a stateful set and I have said appointment or job in Kubernetes Is the fact that we're attaching the persistent disk to each of the Replicas inside the stateful set. So it means that we've got that might be a Kafka cluster For example, it might have 8 brokers on each of the 8 brokers are going to have their own persistent disk And importantly whenever Kubernetes comes along and does its job and tries to migrate or schedule the workload That persistent disk will follow The the replica around so whenever set broker 6 in this Kafka cluster comes up It will have the log file and the information that it expects being attached to it Can you talk about what are the general discussions that you are hearing or if you're whether it could be your internal team when you are like Looking at a specific customer use case or you know in the ecosystem in general where once again It's like hey, should we run, you know, stateful workloads on Kubernetes or not? Yes, and it's a constant conversation inside cake. I think it can be summed up by you know If there's a managed service available for your stateful workloads, so for example a sequel database I'd currently would typically recommend that the cluster go and leverages the managed service, right? So this isn't even just about you know having to manage it to yourself It's the fact that you've got people like Amazon like Google They're investing hundreds thousands of engineers of ours into making the managed service more, you know Available performance and everything else. We don't believe that somebody more customers What's going to bring the value to or even have the engineering kind of Capabilities to go make the same investment. So there are some kind of no-brainers if you like that as a sequel is one of them Now we don't live in the world where everything that is that or stateful is in a sequel database It's kind of in a little bit of a lull now But two to three years ago and a car can use when I was working with a colleague where it was blockchain And there was no managed service for the type of blockchain We there are managed services for block teams, but not for the specific private blockchain that we were using And we made a decision that we thought that it would work well on Kubernetes So that was one this that was one decision that was backed at card We worked with kind of not for customers and that was back with us and we kind of We wrote an operator that we probably talk about in a little bit, but that operator You know helps the business logic and everything that we needed to do to run the the blockchain application on a Kubernetes cluster and saying that even when I started using Kubernetes in my 2017 my first kind of Challenge the running or my first workload running in Kubernetes was a stateful workload So I've been one of these guys that have been constantly since you know 2007 you know going kind of against the common knowledge that you know the Kelsey Hightower tweets, you know about You know anything in Kubernetes apart from your movie stateful workloads or databases I have kind of been doing that from the beginning anyway.  Well, are you crazy thinking we're gonna put it into Kubernetes? I think in that case, you know work with the customer Can you just go into a specific or maybe some use cases or you know, especially, you know Once again workload where you're like, hey, no, we should not be running stateful workloads in Kubernetes We've touched on with her. I think if there's something that is like missing critical if it's a production. It's your kind of Really your bread and butter We would definitely suggest if it's sequel we looking at a mounted service up It's available. Obviously this gets complicated whenever you're running Kubernetes on-premise. You don't actually have Sometimes the the ability to even connect out to the mounted service in that case We will be saying that you probably are an enterprise. You might have something like a database hotel You've got a team of people that are running databases in your enterprise Why not go to them as a customer and ask them to provision you with the database one-sector? So if you've got those operas if you've got those kind of capabilities available to use an enterprise Then we would recommend that you take and leverage them when they look at some of these modern technologies They kind of come into existence to solve a specific problem But as the user base grows, you know, suddenly we start seeing a lot of use cases that we did not even envision the very beginning What kind of major trends that you're seeing in the Kubernetes space when it comes to a stateful workloads or databases where you're like Hey, this is kind of becoming a new norm there. Yeah, definitely the amount of customers and you can see even from the Twitter traffic You know, there are proper enterprises being built on running cloud native on Kubernetes at the moment I you know, I'm a bit past I've worked with Kafka for a long time So I think confident are a good example of this, right? You know the value-added company for for for Kafka they as part of their enterprise suite They have a Kubernetes operator You know, which will handle all of the log rotation and scaling and all of the stuff that a Kubernetes API is not going to be able to do for you And that you know business logic needs to be encapsulated into An operator and that operator even that that's another good point that operator framework as well is much more mature You know, it seems like whether it's an actual database may sequel whether it's Kafka and the coach DB's for example, they've all got operators now, which will allow you to Confidently run these databases inside a Kubernetes cluster as an organization was Kubernetes You know, we are we have started to see a lot of things in production now as Organizations they do look at you know running their stateful workloads Databases in Kubernetes What advice you have for them? What is the right approach for a stateful workloads on communities? Yes And so here's the cop out from my perspective. There's no right or wrong answer here Unfortunately, what I would say is that running a stateful workload inside Kubernetes is not fundamentally wrong It might be quite hard But I think the point is if you're running it on say a suite of VMs I'll have you know minks in front of them or whatever your infrastructure might be you're gonna encompass the same challenges as you do in Kubernetes Now Kubernetes is made It's a very kind of rapid roadmap and there seems to be more and more capabilities with Kubernetes that allow you to treat it goes a little bit against kind of the mantra or the ethos I think of Kubernetes that you do have to put a little bit of control or you need additional YAML additional Guard reels if you like on this workload. It goes back to the pets versus Cal kind of situation that we've got You know back in kind of 2000 2018 kind of time, you know that you've got You've got a really kind of Keep an eye on and manage and you've got a kind of work with them differently to your stateful workload For example when it comes to running a stateful workloads or you know databases on the Kubernetes There is already a complexity with there and then you're also moving your database there What the reality is that we are not going to reduce this complexity What is going to happen is help customers deal with this complexity talk a bit about how carrot group is helping or how you see Customers are looking at because they should not be wasting too much too much of their time in in managing Kubernetes and all those Cluster, they should be focused their developers should be focusing on writing business applications That's a great point and it's exactly one of the reasons why I think that this these days We shouldn't be afraid of running it inside Kubernetes to take this the other way actually in fact if you're gonna imagine You've got you know, 80% of your workload as an organization. There's now been maybe over the past three four years You know what modernization has been moved to Kubernetes and containerized and whatnot You know why you then go and suggest that you have to go on or another to see in another suite like Ansible Chef whatever it is to go manage a suite of VMs to run the database on and so even even from a level below the developers even the operators of this By not having the database of the state for workload in Kubernetes You're effectively mandating that there's a whole other to see and there's a whole other room book and everything else that on Operations team we already under pressure need to go and look at and it does feed into topics that you're going to cover like Observability like logging and everything else You have to run a separate essentially stacked. You might need to run a separate, you know, class to look at that Database or blocks in whatever it might be Compared to say your front end or your microservices are the rest of your workload And you thank you so much for taking time out today and talk about this topic And as usual, I would love to sit down with you again and discuss the topic. Thank you


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It's really good stuff it just kind of puts your mind in the right frame to To be able to take those hits to actually just have things just brush off you and just move forward I mean, that's the big thing we need right now Especially this bear market and the bull market nobody cares about that stuff because to the moon and Shiva and Dogecoin and whatever But you know, but right now I think people would really use that links in the description daily stoic I think it's deli stoic.com. Ah, so the Pullman says what do you think about the advanced trade and Coinbase? So I Know that Coinbase Pro is supposed to be going away I believe it's in December. So there might be this they're reshuffling things So I don't know about the advanced trade and how it's gonna work more information will come out there is another option for Coinbase, which is Coinbase one I think it's called we pay $30 per month and that waves all the all the transaction fees up to $10,000, which is pretty good if you dollar cost average like me every day However, some people have still said that's good not good enough and they take a look at the spreads Between the cost of like a Bitcoin Ethereum and they still play a little bit funny and you're paying a little bit more So it's kind of like when you go to the car dealership, right?  Sure. How much you want to pay? $30,000. Okay, $30,000. Well, great. And then you want to finance it. No, I don't okay Well, we're now it's $32,000 and they just go back and forth and hey, you want some upgrades here and some upgrades Every for you know what they make one diamond to death That's just what it is so I get tired and I'm just like I don't care Just if I go up 10 20 50x and another couple years some just dollar cost averaging The guy with the least worries is the winner at the end of the day. Remember that. Oh Look at that. I apologize. Don't slow and Spotify. Very nice You've got to be kidding me never gets old never gets old How do we ask questions? You just ask the question. I can't find a super challenge. I think I turned it off I just felt like people shouldn't be paying paying for super chats when they can just ask me right here They're just spending on spending on investments and spending on me. I'm doing just fine I got a really nice green screen on my mom's basement, which looks like a pool house. So that's pretty cool Beardy says leave the dad jokes to to the professionals Ah Rusty says coinbase advances live now great You know what then I will ask you guys for for a favor then if you So go through coinbase advance. I need you guys to compare the spread between the Usual suspects as far as cryptos and tell me if there's a huge massive difference between the spread of like say a Bitcoin and Ethereum whatever and if you could do do me a favor just post it on Twitter and then Tweet at me at news asset. There's also a link in the description for that Lat says hey Rob Theta is doing great things we think will happen when there's the meta chain release in Q4 Look, I had digital Dave on a couple weeks ago And he's big on theta drop and he was also big on now me and Dave have had our bad calls. Let's just be honest, right?  However On Theta, he's been a hundred percent correct on theta did Phenomaly well and then for T fuel did great and instead his next one He thinks that's gonna do really well is theta drop which is like the government is token For all the NFTs and things like that. So I think that'll do well theta.  I think about 60% I still own theta in my theta wallet So yeah, I think it do well When when would I know I can't tell you when Don't make me poor or beardy by sending me eos. Just kidding. I know you I know beauty loves eos for some reason I I bought into eos. I still have some hanging around somewhere in some wallet Matt, thank you 3d green. Yes, it's very tough. It's advanced things get them very few places. I happen to have one Yeah, Dustin's got a good question FTX or coinbase pro I use while I use coinbase only is coming through and I use FTX the one thing I like about FTX is the ACH So usually what's really great is that you can take Your your bank account and you can link it up and it can just do automatic clearinghouse deposits And then you can do it you can do that, but you have to kind of wait a little bit of a time for FTX I just kind of like it where I can just send it. It's it's there if I want to make a decision It's there, but even with FTX doesn't really matter. So I just put an X amount per week and I dollar cost average I Over there I buy near protocol and a couple other things But I'm not buying as much alts as I used to I'm not putting as much money as I as I used to like in 20 2018 I put a lot now. I'm a little more conservative because I just don't know I Still dollar cost average, but I just don't know for the next big downturn is coming So I'm just waiting for 2023 to really ramp things up, but if I'm right I mean I still put money in In 2025 I still think it's gonna be a bull run. So if I have to You know ramp up in 2023 is as the price has to go down. That's okay. I'm okay with that Bullish them dear. Thanks Rob's rock. I'm not so Rob just got lazy didn't want to No, it looks okay Ah good plan has got a great question. What price do you see sweat reaching a long run answer? No idea Every time I do price predictions people people crush me, but I got to tell you I think it's going to do quite well I know on this channel remember on this channel not financial advice But I've been talking about sweat coin for a long time. There is a link in the description Let me show you There's a link in the description looks like this And you can download sweat coin. It's free. It's 100 free. Did I tell you it's free? It's free and you get The sweat token just for walking like I think it's for every thousand steps You you make one sweat token if you don't want to use that There's another one called smiles app where you can you can earn satoshis just for walking around I happen to use both because I'm greedy and I also walk so I do those things and then there's this other thing down here This says 5% degen plays right there I'll link you over to This because I got a second channel called dan degen and as if you don't know I don't these these um These projects like they don't pay me I pay them And I pay a good amount to get into these projects, but because I pay into them I want them to do well. Do you understand I'm biased you guys know that right? I'm super biased I only talk about the things that I invest into do you ever hear me talk about shiba, you know Or dogecoin because I don't invest into those things. So why would I talk about them? I'm just super biased It's just the truth So with sweat coin people like how much they pay you rub they pay me anything actually I bought 1.7 million dollars the tokens in an early sale And uh going from there I paid 0.0 a penny and a half Or something like that That's it And uh, unfortunately or fortunately that's fortunate Um, I'm in a lockup period because I got on the early sale So I can't sell those like when it drops in september 12th I can't sell anything until 12 months later and even 12 months later It still trickles out over the next 24 months. So Like I know some people will say what's the difference between that and vcs and like well I have a huge lockup period and I don't get the whole thing at once and I super believe in it And I'm probably going to have it for a while. So in the old days 2017 They would just give you apparently I wasn't I was around 2017, but I wasn't on youtube But apparently they would give you a bunch of tokens. Here's the tokens talk about my my company And then you can dump on your audience and that's the wrong way to do it Right if you're going to do it at least get into it and you have skin in the game And even when you talk about it, it sounds genuine and serious That's it. So answer your question. How well I think it'll go to Initially it'll probably do pretty well and It really depends on execution And where the revenue comes from and just watch the deep dive video which you can find in the description And I explain all those things all right Who is the good one jjong chow Isn't that scary because if usa defaults on loan because the government high spending and high interest rates When the central stable coins become insolvent and thus our stable coins will do is peg next to that's true if the us Defaults on their loan has has the us defaulted any loans recently not recently I mean Was the last time they actually have they ever not for sure other countries have you can take a look at uh at turkey Who is the big one that just had the big collapse? But when people start to default in the loans, that's when the imf steps in I don't think we're going to be there yet But it's a good point. Hey never Now i'm dear right on time Will smith of the a ch Yeah, so the a ch is 12 days way too long So with and he's talking about will I think you're talking about ftx for automated clearing houses to for that But you have to remember I think it's a safer way to do things right because Guess what not everybody's like me and will here like we try to do the honest thing You know we sign up and uh it debits our our account for our bank The money goes in and then you know we trade now some people will be very slick and they'll say yeah, I've clicked connect my bank account Bank will they'll say yeah it is and of course for a ch clearing It doesn't happen automatically it could take three to five business days and during that time you might be able to Buy crypto and then take it off the exchange and then contact your bank and go that's fraud That's a fraud charge.  It's a great question And the appraisal Where'd it go? Ha So masterworks fractionalized shares of art That is all registered with the scc. So nobody flipped out Uh, I have a basket and a bank see Which I'll be honest with you. I didn't know what the heck those were except for I knew what banks he was I didn't know what a basket. I had no idea before I got into it It didn't and they're just shares and then for this one valued at I'm up 40 percent since I bought it in october 13 2021, which is not bad I don't think so and then uh, they've sold these so far They had one they had a bank see they sold for 32 percent annualized returns 31 for condo. I don't know what that is. Olan sure Brown yeah, whatever like I'm not a obviously you can tell I'm not very refined in art But uh, I don't care because I just care about this Performance masterworks is outperforming rustle nasdaq smd 500 and crypto And that's why I'm usually talking about this portfolio balance. You have to balance risk a little bit just by spreading things around That's what I try to do But don't do what I do. I'm not a financial advisor. This is what I I spread it around cash stable coins d gen plays stocks Land property my amazon business staking I trust capital And it's it's it's pretty diverse because when one goes up and want the other when one goes down I want the other one to go up. That's that's my idea. I just don't want to be stuck going. Wow I put everything into luna Because it was doing so well. I didn't sell anything and now I just lost my you know my Everything so I don't want to do that Just trying to be a little risk aversive As you get older these are things that are important When you're young, you don't care like, yeah Who cares? Ah mark, it's a great question mark says dan after celsius debacle. What's your opinion on finance lending with bitcoin as collateral? I don't trust anything anymore I'm just uh I'm just on the cold wallet Ideal and just going from there and he had to remember like I Remember that I did a lending through celsius remember that Um, I needed to do I thought well, I'll just I'll just collateralize my ethereum and I'll lend that out Uh to celsius and then I'll help me pay for the house in portorico and it was good But then of course says you know the margin calls will come up I would you know meet those and I would put in more ethereum or ethereum then when I was in uh europe for a bit I there was a big uh dip. This was in april. This was around when luna collapsed remember that I Was collapsing a three rows capital and I missed a couple margin calls because I was in between I was in between france and spain and we're moving and I don't know I missed some and they just liquidated me all of it I was like well that Sucks kind of but not really because I didn't what I didn't do I thought this was silly Some people will say raw what you got to do is you got to uh collateralize your crypto to buy more crypto I'm like, well, what if all the crypto goes down?  Don't you know that I'm like, I've been in just 2017 I think it's gonna happen So what I did was I took the money that they gave me for the loan I put that and paid off the house Free and free and clear And that was it. So the money that I had wasn't in crypto. It was in a house The house is now an Airbnb And I it's it's an asset and I did So they liquidated me it when uh, I make a theory and went down to 2200 that was my liquidation cost So I'm still up but just remember that if you get liquidated It's a taxable event if you if you do a loan if you If you do a loan like what mark is talking about against your crypto that uh That's not a taxable event. However, you have to again, it's about risk so You know in this situation could finance falter like that the chart that we used to look at finance is a juggernaut But guess what so was Celsius and so was voyager and so was luna. They were all juggernauts So just be careful. I I'm not gonna do it personally and that's my final stance Yes, motion capture suit. Hello, eris. Thank you Yeah, it's tough to make a joke out of eros. They did that themselves. Just kidding beardy. Just kidding. Just kidding Sheba says probably yeah, I'm feeling better On some supplements and you get older you guys are taking supplements and things just have to be it What but as time goes on I want to get into the the trt. I'll be the good stuff The injection is not that not that cream wimpy Let's see That's a good question Orlando says row. Do you recommend connecting your ledger wall to deadless? And staking aida from there or create a new deadless wallet not linked to a harder wallet for a steak You just remember that Anything that you do as far as like a deadless wallet or any kind of wall like that It is a a form of a hot wallet Because there is an internet connection and you put in your past like I have my deadless wallet right here actually I can see it and The best way to do things always through cold storage. Just remember that cold storage is probably the best way that you can do things and go from there Now even saying that remember ledger did have a hack. It wasn't a hack. It was a data breach Where like the people that bought the deadless the deadless the ledger wallet They were people got their home information their phone numbers their Their names and emails, but they never got a hold of your crypto So I mean that's going to happen regardless of everything. I mean, I don't know how many of you Ever take a look at a website called how I've been pwned or something like that. It'll it'll everybody's emails on there Just how it is It's the financial advice. Good one beauty Rob using bots to ask for a question. That would be pretty good. That's not a bad idea actually I mean look I want sweat to do well, but not at the cost of like someone saying hey Rob uses a bunch of bots or something I think it'll do well regardless. I mean Looks me pretty well Let me think with this way like when you guys came on youtube. Did you have to watch an ad? Unless you had youtube premium. Yeah, you did So it's the same thing with uh with sweat coin over on on the app It's like the number depending on what date it is number one through five It's the most uh, the most downloaded health and fitness app in the globe And uh, that's what they do. They sell ad space So what's different than that and twitter and facebook and anything else? Do you really think bitcoin cash is a loser? I don't think the people that invest in bitcoin cash are losers I think bitcoin cash isn't doing that great as far as price appreciation And um, that's it I like the fact of uh, the bitcoin cash should do pretty well for transactions But I think you know lightning's got that and I don't see a point for bitcoin cash bitcoin cash people will tell me What a moron I am that's Probably not untrue, but that's uh, I just don't see the the point Oh, I got that one Danny's got a good question rob just to mentally repair. What kind of a haircut do you think we're going to take on voyager? Let's say 70 percent I'm okay with 70 percent I'm thinking like like this like I think between voyager and celsius voyager is going to come out of chapter 11 first I think they have the offers and the backers and there wasn't some gross mismanagement that uh, I mean there was a special Special advisor that was appointed to the celsius case because of gross mismanagement And that's not good So I think voyager is going to probably the one that come out and by the end of this month again The end of this month august 2022 we're going to figure out who is the winning bidder for voyager and that'll be interesting I think if they want that to To go on they have to make Everybody whole or close to whole or they have to have a secondary objective, which would be to look We can't make you whole right now, but we can give you this type of token or security or something like that which is registered with the scc And you can hold on to this and redeem it at a later date as we start to pick up business Which I think would be pretty good idea for me Moving into 2024 2023 four and five I can hold on to things for three four years. I've already done it before. Why can't I do it again? Master blaster says thoughts on the cardinal testing issue. We talked about this two days ago And I said, isn't that to me? I thought well, isn't that what the test nuts for to find all the screw-ups? and they did that so I mean look kudos to them for not putting on the main net and being diligent Sometimes the grown-ups have to be the adults and say hey, we've got to slow down and that's what happened. I'm happy for that beardies are us FTX is instant positive once I use it a bit for me Ben, maybe that's the problem Maybe that's what it is. Maybe I just haven't had enough transaction volume. I need to stick with it That's a good one So joseph says here. I would think jackson holes now price center will there be a major swings on friday this is uh Drone Powell is going to speak I believe and uh, they're going to talk about the things they're going to do because There's no meeting here in august. So they're going to jackson hole. Good for them Uh, I think it's priced in Me personally everybody says it's priced in I never really believe it's totally priced in I think there's always like little dips and things like that and you just can kind of catch those I will say this We talked about this at length before because remember with um Before powell, you know fed chairman, I mean back in the 80s We talked about volker and before volker was a gentleman named burns And the problem with the united states at that point is that remember Inflation was was hitting their highs five six seven percent And the people would always say well burns didn't do and didn't do anything He did he raised the interest rates The problem was he raised and raised and he thought it was taken care of because they were using outdated data Just like what they're doing right now And he stopped raising the rates and that's when they lost faith and then go you should have kept on to it Now we got to bring in this pit bull named volker and volker came in and said we're going to raise this to the moon I don't care 14 percentage rates. We got to we got to take care of this these inflation rates Because if they go out of control, then we have let me go from a recession to a depression and not a my watch That's what he did and it sucked for a couple years and uh They have attributed to do the uh avoidance of of a depression because of volker and his his uh watch dog ways of raising the interest rates Burns it's not that he didn't do it Just like paul It's that he didn't do it enough and consistently and I think I think paul is enough of a student of the game to understand that I think he'll keep reason rates just to make sure remember. It's your legacy right Hey marky. Thank you Yauzer says I was busy getting married probably more important before 2017 Vosel's got a good point ftx seems very shady to me. They had something to do with voyager and celcius now They have larger revenue compared to coinbase There's a secret Everybody's shady. Everybody's a little bit shady a little bit shady then there's big shady and uh And uh medium shady so if ftx has a couple of shady things In the grand scheme of things unfortunately The people that win that win the wars will write the history and if ftx comes out of this, which I think they're going to They're gonna write all the history and talk about how great they are and how they did these things and that's just how it's gonna be I'm just a realist. Unfortunately You can buy my art Yeah mark. Oh, yeah, we talked we talked about this.  I think if you want to do it a safer option is wait till I mean We're pretty low If I could say one thing if you're gonna if you need to totally borrow like this is what This is what a lot of the affluent and wealthy do is it's called buy borrow die And they buy they buy assets They borrow against those assets because it's not a A taxable event and they die and they leave these these assets to their children Within their wills and their trustees in their estates So if you want to just take a hint from the super rich people, that's what they do Now if you want to borrow against it again not financial advice But uh, if I'm gonna do it again, which I'm not but if I wasn't gonna do it I would probably doing around here in a Bear market not in a bull market because in a bull market as things go up Like hey, you got to meet your collateral. Oh, yeah, we got to keep adding you got to keep adding You got to add a 2x 3x 10x as it keeps going down. So If you're gonna if I was gonna do it I'd probably do it here, but I'm not gonna do it Mr. T says the rainbow chart and for your cycles, that's true I don't know if you guys ever seen the rainbow charts very easy to use It'll tell you when a fire sale is and one's a good sale and you can find all those charts at look into bitcoin.com No affiliation with those guys, but I link in the description because It's free to use and it's awesome Bedbug gaming says get mid journey make your own baskets I had a mid journey and mid journey if you don't know, it's a pretty cool. It's on discord and you pay about $10 a month and it uses ai you can put in different Phrases and it will create these different pieces of art. I've used it works very well But there's another one that you don't have to pay anything for and that one is called the heck is it called We figured out I did a tweet on this at one point I forgot what it called Ai No, it's not it Ah ai sites autodraw Yeah, I guess that's it name licks Oh, this isn't it name licks I'll find it later. But yeah, there's another one that's free that you can do all those things. It's pretty cool Ah, what's this? Do I need to have identification to pull my bitcoin out of 4x? Am I getting ripped off please? Here's what I say if someone contacted you and said we need your identification so you can take out your bitcoin 4x this doesn't make this doesn't sound right person personally Whatever company that you're using for this Um, contact that company directly and say hey, I got this email and they're wanting me for my identification Is that true and how can I take my money off? Yes, thank you wrenches. I do appreciate it Yeah, you can do lending with collateral and defy. That's true And yeah, you gotta you have to remember if Look at the ones that failed us Moving forward like like which companies failed us. Well, there was a centralized it was this It was a centralized exchange is a centralized lending platforms a centralized players But you know what didn't fail us besides these stupid hacks from the bridges Let me take a look at ave and compound those types of things like did they fail us? per se I think they did a pretty great job during all these these downturns not to say they're perfect But they did a heck of a lot better than losing everybody everything except for those damn Um Tunnels rob your everdome video on five percent inclusion work. Oh, no Let's see. Oh, yeah, it doesn't I'll fix that. Thank you Thank you, Aaron Any update on ledger staking use alchemy? Nope It's the luckiest person I've ever met. I escaped luna usd and celsius right before the crash Thank god.  I've been dosing in the morning of my mid-afternoon. I'm rage holler at somebody It's working better for you than me. I'm just keeping my levels at pretty decent states Yeah, kiles at a fake background green screen That's okay, but you made it prp. I've done prp and uh, I will let everybody know I'm also going to do stem cells in Honduras So I'll let everybody know about that and the why honduras. It's the same place that uh If you do a joe rogan podcast search it was joe rogan and uh, no gibson And they talked about uh, their their stem cell Journey to honduras and uh, how it worked out pretty interesting Yadr says I downloaded a dead list on my laptop. It's huge 650 megabyte files. Yes That's the that's the bummer But you know what? I hate that's the only one I trust.  I'm okay with that YouTube premiums a must Yes You pay 30 bucks.  I don't really care about So what I'll do is I pay for all the premium services. I want to pay for those or don't have to watch them I mean, I can make more money. I just can't make more time Whatever happened. What happened to earlick on the next project. I don't know what happened to steve I don't know But it's gotta suck, man Because steve didn't strike me as that guy that would want to screw over everybody And this is just my my thoughts I just don't think He was that guy because he already made a ton of money in Uh e-trade and light speed So when he started this third one, I'm like, this will do pretty well I just think things got away from it and we did have a pretty Long about 30 minute video. It was about uh, three hours capital It would just type in digital asset news three hours capital. You'll find it And I just went over, you know, how those guys pretty much fooled everybody And uh, I understand now why they didn't do the collateralization because three hours capital was like, we're not going to be collateral We have all these other, you know, this is all the money that we have We have plenty to pay you off, but we'll give you a very high yield because we've been doing this for years Unfortunately, it was a Ponzi And uh, I'm not making excuses, but I get it. But when I see when I think about steve, I'm just like It's gotta be crushing, you know again, maybe it's me thinking of of how I am but if it's too It's crushing to think that That uh, these things can happen and uh, but who knows maybe I'm wrong Let's see Like I was having a four-year cycle Do you think anybody's going from Celsius is going to jail? White collar crime is uh, let me ask you this How many uh, how many bankers went to jail in 2008 for the financial collapse? I think one So don't hold your breath Well Yeah, that's right give myself some some uptots That's Marie says should I invest in crypto now as we were speaking? I can't tell you what to invest into I can just tell you that uh, my dollar cost average Buys they trigger another couple hours. So that's just what I'm doing Ah Eric Zulu, have you looked at I trust capital staking dot? Yes, I'm supposed to be part of that uh, that first rollout. So if you don't know I trust capital I think it's always above my head It's a Roth IRA and you can now stake So what let's go about Roth IRAs Just like peter teal like peter teal has a five. He made five billion dollars By sticking everything in a Roth IRA. How do you do it? Well, he took all his shares from PayPal back in the early 90s stuck on a Roth IRA because they weren't worth anything at that point Of course, they appreciated vastly and now it's five five billion dollars And you know much is gonna pay in taxes capital gains taxes when he takes those out at 59 and a half years old Zero zero percent. That's what a Roth IRA can give you now for Wouldn't be great Because with I trust I get to buy like bitcoin, ethereum and cardano and all those different things And I get to stick them in there and when I take them out at 59 and a half, which is not far away I might add for me They're tax-free Because it's a Roth IRA and what would be great about that is like the polka dot I have I'm going to be able to stake the polka dot within the Roth IRA The rewards that I get are also going to be tax-free So if you want to find out more about that link in the description So I am going through that process right now and I'll be staking I know you're investing in everdome. Yes, you think it will recover. Sure. Why not? But remember Remember this there's this thing that I'm always talking about these rules It's all gone. Everything's a scam. Don't leave any exchanges takes and don't use leverage and take profits Those take profits part. I take profits So like with sweat coin for example Like after a year or so of having all my money tied up. I'll probably take some profits With everdome, of course, it was another year-long lock up thing Well, not initially initially I think it was they gave 10% and then it rolls over over 12 and 24 months I'll be taking profits as they come out. So I've already taken some profits out But the rest of it's just stuck there. Do I think it'll it'll recover? Yeah, and I think it's a pretty good project I talk about why when I get the right link on there I'll show you but if you just do digital asset news everdome or dan degen everdome, you'll find it Thank god someone tells me when I screw up The only everdome land No, I didn't get into the land land. I got into the Just the dome token. I missed the other part Yeah Bobby shouts bookmark daily stoic. Thanks. I'm telling you guys. It's a great. It's a great resource And those those daily emails fantastic I I'm sure they maybe later Robert ah panamana Honduras. Thank you Robert Panama. I didn't I thought it was Honduras when I said I was kind of wrong Panama Can you bring your attention to harmony one? I could Theon and Oni better DC on bitcoin is a 12k. That's true. If it ever gets there Some people think it's going to 12k. Some people think it's going to 8k and some people think it's going all the way on to 5k And that's it I don't know JF says a cycle and crypto would seem four years 2013 I guess this would be for bitcoin 1100 2017 19 621 69k 20 25 Who knows I thought for sure was going to 150k and look how wrong I was So I think that's it. Did I miss anybody? And bobby says any concerns that I trust will be beat down of our time trusting. I've been real hard time trusting too and uh If we looked at what happened with with voyager and Celsius So Where do they make their money? well Voyager, they just would have kept doing what they were doing. They made they were doing just fine They got it. They just got it themselves. Voyager made it on transaction fees. It was like the hotels.com So they would use the different exchanges and they were brokerage and go okay Coinbase ftx finance blah blah blah buy bit who has the best price for for bitcoin rob wants to buy a bitcoin Oh ftx you do great. So how much is it? 19600 whatever okay, you get it And the spread the difference between all these ones We're gonna keep a percentage of that and that'll be our fee very simple very easy to do then they got into yield And they were looking into going into loans and I got it into that and then with with Celsius that see that that one was And I had Alex on my show multiple times. He said here's how it here's how we generate yield We're gonna take the the crypto that you put it into our into our platform We're gonna be able to loan them out To and we and of course we do all our due diligence and all our safety and blah blah And uh people they collateralize those loans and we give them to them and then they use them Okay, unfortunately, it just got away from so all those those two guys That was their the way they make money and they just went off it now How does so we have to take a look at it with with I trust capital? Well, how do they make their money? It's very simple. There's no loans there's no There's no yield generation The most risky thing to do is staking now and that's just one on polka dot where they make it is 1% trading fees That's it 1% trading fee. Oh, there's a startup fee. I think a couple hundred bucks. I think And That's all so that I mean from and then of course when people say what about the security? Well, they use the same Uh custodians that uh, micro Microsoft micro strategy does which is a coinbase Coinbase seems to work out. Okay So that was a long answer to a very short question And that's it. All right. So guys look we're coming up an hour and that's all I got for today. I got to do I got to do a couple meetings right now and then go do some other stuff, but Uh, thanks for stopping by. I do appreciate it. I mean you hung with me for an hour. That's a long time Thank you So if you like today's video thumbs up subscribe all that great stuff and I will see you on the show tomorrow Roughly at the same time. All right. Adios. Bye


Hypothetically, how would the CIA be eliminated? JFK tried to do it, right? They assassinated him and the Americans, thought, bought the story of the lone gunman hanging outside of a library, upside down with one eye, shooting across. They totally forgot about the grassy knoll, right? Sloth salutations on sensor 2. How should it be eliminated? You tell me. You tell me. The origin is the Nazis from World War II. NSA, NASA, CIA, Walt Disney had a Nazi scientist making cartoons, right? With his voice explaining how science is done the atom. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Oh my God. I was also in high school. I remember the Chinese news in Hong Kong talking about it. Were they telling what type of news were they, what type of angle were they portraying? Oh my God. Mean, clear bams. Social media literally does the job of the CIA with all the data sets behind social media platforms to a large degree, right? The main social media platform like Facebook and SensorTube and Reddit. But if you come to our Gilded Server, people are sharing the legit information, right? The magic bullet, yeah.  The CIA assassinated an American president.  And the American population says, whoa, Putin bad, Iran evil, China communist.  Like really, it blows me away that people still spew corporate media propaganda. It just doesn't register with me. Even kitty cats, you can teach them things, right? Bad from good. Even cats have the ability to learn, right? How is it that Western public does not have that ability in them where they're still supporting war? They still believe these three letter agencies, they still support Nazis, where the Canadian government can give two standing ovations to Nazis and the Canadian public does not rise up and go, we want every member of parliament right now to resign, you fuckers. You gave standing ovations to Nazis, we want all of you resigned, we want new elections next week, everybody out, everybody out. How is it possible that Canadian citizens have not done that? Right? We reap what we sow. Let's see where we go.


Yeah, I'm nowhere near done with world man. I'm like just I feel like I still feel like I'm just getting started Please find somebody that So two-hander want to be in all that Yeah, I've barely got up the two weapons like I'm my head my two right now or heavy bow gun and hammer Those are my two weapons right now I'm slowly I'm trying to build up more but Like I got on that charge blade kick and it's so good, but I'm so bad at it. I'm so bad at it. There it is Not a cockroach It's like Dr. Pepper exactly This is this this I just feel like right now I have like no decorations So I'm trying to master like yesterday stream was all about even the day before was all about trying to Come up with a good solo build so I can just farm. I need something to farm I got tired of trying new stuff and being bad at it and not having the gear So I'm gonna stick with something for a little bit gear up and then I can go play those other things I like and actually have decent decorations and gear so So that's why I was messing with a palico build To try the solo stuff, you know and I was met with a varying level of success it was I Mean my stuff still weak Like that me all the top thing. I just got it. It's like level nothing So I got to rank it up, you know But I got the I got the range and I got the palico rally Got all that No, it's just a matter of leveling it up. So my um Palico can actually do damage. I mean, that's kind of what I want to get to Suncass is like and I'm like I'm not even working on temper stuff. I'm like working on normal stuff now Just to get the hang of it Some of the guys I read they were talking about Doing it with sword and shield, which may be a good idea. I'm thinking about even building the sword and shield support build anyway, but But I'm probably gonna start with the honey horn before I go sword and shield talk to these guys move Those guys you didn't want to talk to them Yes Very good Those guys too Let's talk to more people Oh Yeah, but the palico the guy was the videos I watched we're talking about using sword and shield or Lance charge Lance Just sit there and block the whole time while your palico's kill everything you buff the palico's Yeah, like half the stuff I need to that they were talking about buffing the palico's with I'm like I don't even have that unlocked yet. There's so much stuff. I don't have man I'm just like like I just got all the palico gadgets yesterday You'll get the bits. You don't get the bits right away. I Don't know if I don't think I got mine yet, and I watched it like two or three days ago You don't get them right away Escalation point build. This is the Ziggy video built not the newest one, but the old one I'll do it. You don't know if it work. Well, if you watched it and you have it This should know my thing is why wouldn't work But she did something exotic You watched it while playing overwatch. Well, you if you play through the whole thing. I don't think they're gonna Then again, I don't know what's gonna happen We're just gonna we're just gonna wait and see and then we're gonna laugh when you don't get it. How about that? We're gonna giggle You watch but didn't watch and then get anything you're gonna be like well, I didn't do anything I'll be like, I don't care. Yes.  Oh, it's a death music. I hate that music so much But it failed Spines spines prickly spines huh Yeah, but today in the monster hunter, um, I think I'm gonna I'm gonna farm I'm just gonna play with the palicle build on like What the hammer And just level up the skill because right now it's like level one the meallow top. That's what I'm talking about So I just got the meallow top yesterday and it's like level one and I can't like this Potato Think I need to do more With it, you know That's what we're gonna do today The quality was that 17 Holy crap I think it's the highest drop I've ever gotten Might get a chaos for that Exalt for 21 Some level 19s here scrolling Two to three chaos here's one for one three four five five three That's three out alcorbs One chaos one chaos It's 16 I'm gonna do three I'm gonna sell that for three Or two All right game sorcery. Thanks for coming by buddy Man, that's the first seven. I've never gotten a drop that big I should say for that that high quality. I've never gotten a jewel that high quality That's a drop Self play though What the heck? What is this nonsense? Touch them God dang zombies. You got one job Why are there two of you? I'm so distracted by the weirdness How am I doing today? I'm good, man. Um I can't complain I was hungry, but I'm taking care of that Didn't left over dinner from yesterday Are you enjoying delve as much as I do? I'm not playing it that much. This is like I haven't been playing that much But that's a fun leak I've really gotten into it But it's really fun What I've been playing And this build is such a great starter build. It's Like you get everything with this I mean unless they change stuff. I might use this as a starter build for every leak He's just it just makes everything easy Oh, we're full All right, we'll do this vow area and I'll go that I'll go down to the mines You just slam some barbecue ribs That sounds very good right now Well, where's what other areas? That's like, where is my holy relic of floating? I thought I was gonna get frozen I snowed as close Pretty soon. I'm gonna have to start identifying those I don't know if I'm gonna do face break or not How much are they going for? They the ziggie effect is probably probably really Affecting them. Let's see. What's the stat you look for the physical damage, right? These max rolls and kind of hilarious 30c 25c Oh, man 14c I probably get one of these 14c ones if I go that route Face breaker does seem fun with it But that unique sword ziggies using right now or I don't know if he's still using it That thing looks incredible. It's just like Independent spin to win This is Valhaze You got a rip shop down the road. Oh my gosh Well, we got one that delivers now door dash is like adding all these people And um, it the menu looks like a food truck It might be just we have food truck that delivers The dex you explore Wow, that's A lot of stats dex intelligence and strength and then plus two to all attributes. Jeez Louise I might just get that for the resist And life and mount a regen.  Why are they red? Oh, I'm in the cell screen Oh man, I got ahead of myself that helped my resist quite a bit I'm gonna keep this around and I'm gonna keep this around too worth it Both of those are decent dude Korean barbecue.  Oh man. It's so good All right, we're still going down. Let's get this as a rip. Oh you got it in the house.  I was like 20 I was in my 30. I was in my early 30s before I first had it Because we just never had those places where where I lived at the time when I started traveling um It hurts You hate to see a chat What happened to my flare?  I didn't stand over it. I threw down the flare Uh I gotta do it again. Wait. They gave me my zombies back. That's cool I died and I I didn't have to resummon my zombies Did that new I feel like that's new Oh, they added it last week. Oh, I didn't play something the last thing I was all about the arc trapper one Whoo arc lastly Just zipping the zap zap zoop boop the boop boy everywhere Good times good times chat complete azurite encounter Okay, I I guess that was more than one Yeah Yeah All right I have 231 azurite. Let's go and upgrade my light finally Oh Yes Down to 64 Um I want to upgrade this next. I want to upgrade the radius of the uh, what you call it too Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I want to do this in this Your arc was incredible, man It was zip zap the boop boop boop The dex you're exploring Say you like I love this delve mechanic though this is To me this is better than maps I'm gonna say it Yeah I'm okay with that statement This is better than maps They found a way to outdo maps exactly You don't have to go looking for maps you don't have to worry about drops on the farming them crafting them You just go to harder harder harder harder harder hurt the stuff over and over again You guys don't argue me though over it. I mean maps are really fleshed out. I mean they've gotten a lot of love but To me I would rather do this in game than maps I'm not even gonna lie. I would rather do this than maps I love a little indicator on the mini map I'm greedy for azerite right now That's like all I'm doing Azerite azerite azerite. Give me more azerite. It also looks prettier with them sexy new shadows.  Who was that that sent me that message Is he dead? Oh, there's another one. Is my dude dead? No, he's not dead. Okay. No beast of burden Faces of what is going on in my inventory. Oh, what is all this? Oh the cash is yeah The cash Let's see how deceptive is Chance of freeze is pretty cool Spring leaf I got two of them now chap. I want to be Your spring leaf hammer I saw slush hammer thought about the song Uh, we got enough for another run, but I need to go back and sell I don't want to You I got a bunch of quest items I need to get rid of Bye I don't know spring leaf I'm clicking search. There we go Um, what's the roll on this? Probably armor and energy and this one I got a 111 roll that the one I'm wearing Yeah So 109 roll, I'm just gonna do I haven't even got to the 109s yet People dropping them for one one chaos All the way down here to 115 It's the lowest roll you can have. Geez. Oh, these You know, if I just put I just add the stupid thing in here We didn't have this problem. Let's just filter the other way Oh, it goes down to 80. Oh my gosh We'll just do a chaos. I'm tired of looking Just sledge hammer Where's my dude?  Okay Gotta have my holy relic For my army of minions Come gentlemen, we fight for honor and justice and shiny trinkets Click it Give me all of that azerite It's a painted buckler Given that it's painted the stats are already improved 6% increased movement speed evasion alive Stunning block chance to block your face Um, we require more azerite So you'll be playing monster hunter world sometime today. Yeah, probably I'm only gonna do a couple hours of this. So we probably got like another 15 20 minutes Uh, then we're gonna go uh to monster hunter world Going to be a short path of exile session I was really surprised to see that monster hunter world is still doing very well on steam There's still over 100k concurrence And sometimes pushing 200k uh peaks On steam which is really good. It's up there with counter strike and all the other valve games Really surprised How much more to have left trying to rescue oh, that's gonna hurt push back the darkness Sometimes it feels like there's only 10 people playing. Yeah It's so I mean it's one of those segmented off games It's like if you don't have friends playing it You rely on matchmaking and matchmaking feels disjointed still If you want to play with others, I mean for matchmaking. All right, we're completely out of soul fight What do you keep telling me the depths you're exploring a dangerous exile Not talking about the bloody monsters If you stray into the darkness in your state You'll be told to shreds I reckon you should use a little as you right to insulate yourself. You're trying to tell me the upgrade I'm trying man, but you ain't giving me nothing I need to upgrade my light radius and my darkness resists. Oh wait, I can do that now But I want this instead. I'm doing it. I'll do that next I had to do the light radius Oh You'll you hate to see it chat.  We'll be we'll be closer to act four I feel like i'm lost like why did it take me all the way up there and there's nothing there Is this strength stuff? Oh next level Doesn't say I She's dead. She wasn't alive to begin with one. That's deep And although we've come Actually, we haven't come to the end of the road yet.   If so my ribbons will pluck your spines Malachi like spines like to my spine pretty spine Enough to make an empire week Do you mean a cockroach? I do that's jam boy. What is that you have? um What kind do I want? I want the I need deck stuff probably the cockroaches. I like dash of our Give me the talc woman That's something right there. I mean when I heard that first heard that jingle right there. I was like, oh, yeah This is This is a jam for me. Wait flash regenerate 10 percent when 15 and 18 This has more life though Uh, I think I need I think I need this now I need more. I think I need more survivability and I need damage at this time All right guys, that's going to conclude. Look at this ribbon. He was the last soul hero That's going to conclude the path of exile portion. We're going to be switching to some Monster hunter world right now Thanks for watching. We've we got a little bit of progress not a whole lot still in act two I'm still I got about what five nodes today Yeah, I got this node this note. Yeah, I got like five or six nodes I got all this and I'm gonna get deep thoughts next So that was a good two hour session ish