It's time to go back to work. Hey man, well let's let them know. The black market is open. We have things to see right here. Remember on the Playoffs Club, Dollar Bill hit the green button. I want you on the floor. Floor, little bitch, put your hands moving down here. All that. Luke downstairs. Who is Luke? Rapper, me so on it. You about that culture? Bruh, please do. Hey, Playoffs Club, one of the funniest movies I've ever made. I'm not one of the funniest all the time. Everything Bernie Mac said in that movie was funny as hell, bruh. Okay, nigga. That nigga locked him in the trunk. He said, please don't lock me in. You know I got a son. What the? Oh. That nigga was when them niggas was outside looking for a good nigga, he said. He had to pay them country boys, nothing, nothing. That nigga was moving around that club, popping out the locker's man. He had to cut. What type of nigga don't never come to his own club? Bruh that. Bruh, I already run the building, let him know that the black market is open and today. We got family in here today, man.   And then she go from the city so he been already knew what was going on and everything.  Full circle, man. It's hard to get you in the eight of them. Yeah, but I'm here now, I love the spot too. Yeah. Y'all doing it. Then I see you over here with my partner, Jeremy. Shit, good day since. Good man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's always good when you got friends like that.  Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Very introduce yourself to the world, man. I go by the name of all homies, but my mama named me Malik. Malik Jarrett, CEO of E-brand.  Elevate all the time. Yesterday was yesterday. Don't worry about that. Shit, over with. Yeah, good or bad, we gotta do it again, whatever. Hey, and that's the beautiful part about it is you get another chance. Now what inspired you to create this brand? When did it start taking off and you start seeing success and all of that? I was starving in college. So I was always used to having a job, you know what I'm saying? High school, like that. Freshman year in college, that money ran out real, real fast. My friends were going to Chick-fil-A. Yeah. Chick-fil-A can't express it, too. Express it to me. I got it back then, too.  No matter what. And that eventually led me to make some poor decisions. You know what I'm saying? It got me locked up. And then we're out, but yeah, hunger. But then, you know what I'm saying? When I was sitting in the cell, I was just telling God, like, you know, I know I'm not really, I know I'm not really meant for this. Like, this not supposed to be my life. What do you got for me? Like, you know what I'm saying? Just use me. And then I just got into photography real heavy. Fast forward, still able to graduate. I came home, D.C. And I actually started working for Germs at the radio show. He was just, you know, putting me on with different gigs. And we did the Black, no, we did the Brockley City Fest. Did the Brockley City Fest. I took some pictures. I'm Eric Abadu, future Willow Smith. I went home that night, and I'm kind of talking real fast, but I went home that night, put the pictures on Instagram that night.   You know, they wasn't tagging me or anything like that. So then all my friends were just like, you know, you need a watermark. You know, of course. So a couple of days later, my man Michael Caldwell shot the mic. He hit me in the DM on Twitter. And I was like, yeah, man, I got this logo for you.  And it was just, you know, the same eat logo. I ain't changed nothing to it or nothing. It's the same logo he sent me in 2016. And I'm just like, man, you know, that's love. I'm trying to pay him and everything. He like, bro, like, don't need any trip. I made this on my phone in two minutes. I just want you to have some representation. So around this time, I'm working two jobs. I'm working nine, nine to four, 30. Now I'm working six to 11 at two different restaurants and they was across the street from each other. I was literally on the same block all day for six days a week. And my friends was like, man, you know, we want to support you but we don't do photo shoots and all that. Make some t-shirts.  So I put that pressure back on them. I'm like, man, help me out. You know, I got the money to start it, but you know, help me out. So they kind of, you know, start jiving a little bit too. And then eventually I just started praying. I just started switching up my prayer. You know, I'm not a big religious dude, but I am spiritual. So I just started asking God to use me, however you want to use me.  You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to help my mother out and everything. My mother wasn't working at the time. And so it just came to me like, man, just go ask mom. You know, my dude's going to look out at any time. I went to my mother with my logo. So I'm trying to put this on some t-shirts. And she got me, she found, she found a person to give me some t-shirts made. My first t-shirts was God. They were nothing like, you know, what people see now. But that first weekend, my friends wasn't bluffing. My first two days, I sold out. I made more money those two days than I did in a week at both of my jobs.  I appreciate that. But do you see how important that support system is? That support system, everything, you know what I'm saying?  When Jerns put me on the mix-up show, he ain't really know me from a can of paint, you know what I'm saying? But I guess he could just tell from my aura, my energy that, you know, that I was just like him. We always been in line, you know what I'm saying? That's why we both successful entrepreneurs today. But yeah, I just started with that. And probably like two weeks after I sold out, all my friends start hitting me up like, man, you know, people ask me about my shirt, you know what I'm saying? And being who I am, you know, from DC, we always want to be exclusive.  But I'm also working two jobs, you know what I'm saying? Trying to help my mother out and everything like that. I'm like, nah, whoever want what, just hit my Instagram. So that happened in like March, by the end of the summer, that March I had like 3,000 followers. By the end of that summer, I had like 25,000 followers from March to like August. And it was all organic word of mouth. I ain't have a website until 2018.  And it was more than just selling the clothes, eat stands for elevate all the time.  Our other slogan is yesterday was yesterday. So I'm letting people know this when I'm giving it to them. And I was serving my shirts out of, you know, brown paper bags like lunch. And it was really about that message, getting that message out early on. And it still is. But that's what kinda brought people together as well. Because I used to get stories like people being in the club and they'd probably be from somebody, but then they'd be like, oh, somebody over there got the E-shirt on. So they like, hold up, Gabby, you know what I'm saying? Gabby's some type of connection or something like that. And so it really took DC by storm. And DC was always known, you know, as far as having our own clothing lines and entrepreneurship like that. But I feel like, you know, around the time when I started, we was kinda bringing it back. And now we got that energy all the way back. And DC now it's over 200 clothing lines. What you bring? So right now all this is new, you know what I'm saying? I wish I could bring out some OG pieces. But this all the things from my new winter collection. We got some more things dropping in the spring. Everything else sold out. I mean, that's good and bad. I wish I could show y'all, but it's gone. Let me ask you, look, you said something earlier. You said your first T-shirt was garbage. But see, we talk about this on the show all the time.   But at least you got it out and you can physically touch your idea.  Because like I said, I never went to school for this. I never even took a business class, let alone a fashion class or anything like that. So I was like, man, I gotta catch up. You know what I'm saying? People like this, you know what I'm saying? I gotta respect the game.  And so I was just building up, trying to learn it. But I was in the back of my mother house with just some patches and blank shirts.  But I always had a vision for where I was going. I ain't never really focused on where I was at. You know what I'm saying? Even when I was in good places, you know what I'm saying? It was always about where I'm going, you know what I'm saying? And if I'm in a bad place, it's like, all right, how are we gonna get out of it? So I always had a vision for that. And I think a lot of people, they just gotta start, man. They start where they start because you ain't gonna, a lot of times you ain't gonna even know what to do until you get started. Like YouTube not gonna tell you or another entrepreneur, they might forget to tell you. So you just gotta get, get your hands there. Some things you just gotta live. You can't learn. Yeah, you gotta live it, yeah. I like that. I see you got a collab over on the table with New Balance, man. How did that come about? New Balance, that's the, one of the biggest shoe brands in the DMV. And I like to tell people, they just came from doing the work every day. I didn't know anybody at New Balance. I ain't had nobody email, phone number, but I was just doing the work every day. And then I got a phone call. Shoe City called me and they were like, you know, New Balance is trying to get somebody to make a, to make a shoe. And we told them you. And during that time, I was doing a lot in the community. I mean, I still do a lot of community, but I was, I'm known in the DMV for just being a community type dude, community brand, giving back, just showing the kids. And they recognized that. So they sat me down with New Balance one day. I bought them with their headquarters. And when I walked in that, I ain't gonna hold you. When I walked in there, I was like, man, I had all these like crazy ideas for shoes I wanted to make from like back in the day, stuff I wanted to bring back. But they were kind of like a little bit passive. Like, I don't know. That's the first time. And later on, so that's the first year we dropped and it was like 150 pay. There you go. And that's sold out. And we dropped that on the Saturday. That sold out before the joint. So that's when they was like, all right, this kid serious. And after that we sold out, sold out of those, they flew me up to their headquarters in Maine, where we made the V2. Where we made the V2. And that's when we were finally able to do like kid sizes and adult sizes. My boy have a yeah. My boy have a yeah.  You got a little feet. They flew me up to that factory. And I got to learn a lot about the brand. And so before they showed me like how the shoes are made and everything, like they gave me a rundown of the whole, you know, New Balance brand. So I was the first person to send James Worthy in the 80s to get my own shoe in the United States with New Balance. That's what James Worthy was. Bro, that's hard. That's amazing. I know like coming from where you coming from to be able to work with one of the, like you can say one of the biggest brands in the city. Like it's a global brand, but it's concentrated here in your area as part of the culture. I know that was huge. For sure.  Like where we from? Like I know a lot of other places. The best way to put it, like this shoe right here is like our Air Force One. You know what I'm saying? To other states. So to have them knocking your door and just be somebody that was screen praying. He pressing shirts in the back room of my mother house like a year before that. It was all a blessing. Then I just had to do it for the hood. I had to show the kids like, man, you could do this. Because that's another reason why I started getting out into the community. Because when I was young, I used to say I wanted to be a doctor, but I ain't no doctor. You know what I'm saying? I probably would have been a doctor if I ever met one. So a lot of times we just got to show the kids. So you got to just literally put our self in front of them so they could believe it's real. So once I made the first one, I dropped the second one. The second one sold out. They was like, you know, you could do a third one. I was like, why not? I got to do this for the hood. So we dropped the third one. They're well on that as well. You know what I'm saying? But I'm glad to see, you know, New Balance growing and they giving other black entrepreneurs opportunities as well. You know what I'm saying? Tell them holler at me. Yeah, not for real. They definitely need to holler at you. But they with that. They into tapping into the culture. And with every brand I work with, whether it's New Balance or An Pisa or DTLR, Shoe City, you know what I'm saying? I make sure they align with me on my efforts for the community. Because right now in my city, we battling with gentrification, but also the youth are lacking opportunities and it's affecting everybody. Yeah, I heard the white people in DC Trippin' trying to make them turn the go-go music out.  Yeah, long live, man. Move back to Virginia. We got a lot going on in the city, but yeah, that's what we really battling with. And that's really what it's all about, you know what I'm saying? It's about the next design to come through and really turn it up even more than eat. Speaking of eat, man, drop your Instagram so we can keep that number rolling. Yeah, all Homage, A-L-L-H-O-M-A-G-E. Or you can follow the brand page, eat the brand, just like, what's the website? AllHomage.com, yeah. A-L-L-H-O-M-A-G-E. Now what advice would you give to the next up and coming? Malik, somebody watching this, sitting at their mom crib doing some heat press. To be real frank, man, drop your nuts, bro. I don't care about what nobody thinking. What if they don't have nuts? Do it for yourself.  Y'all know what I'm talking about. Yeah, of course. I gotta make sure it didn't break there. Y'all know what I'm talking about, but you really can't focus on what everybody was doing.  Yeah. No fear? It's the horse race mentality, you know what I'm saying? A lot of people don't know, but horse races, horses got blinders on. They just run in their race. All they see is what's in front of them.  You gotta put the work in. I tell people it's hard, but it's fair. So just be ready to put the work in for real. Hey, man, super proud of you. Man, thank you. Proud of y'all. I can't wait to see what your next level looks like. We gonna do the collab? Most of that. 85 collab?  I'm gonna drop on you after we turn the camera off, man. And we appreciate you stopping through the black market. Thank y'all for having me. Thank y'all for doing this, man. Like, really, what y'all doing with y'all platform is major, it's amazing. And for y'all that don't see, these people, the whole 85 South team, they work very hard, man. So I take my head off the y'all, man, for real. Y'all part of the culture and the community. You know what I'm saying? I was telling everybody, we come to G.C. Yeah, you're right. Y'all part of the culture and community, you know what I'm saying? Chico Ben, that's my guy.  And he definitely represents the city well. And every time y'all come through, y'all always showing love. So, man, I appreciate y'all for real. Well, there you have it, folks. The black market is officially open.


Aloha and welcome to Tough Love with Loretta Chan, where Hawaii's changemakers talk tough on the island they love. Our first guest for the inaugural episode was born in Kauai, raised on Oahu and is a public interest attorney. She was formerly a therapeutic foster parent, was elected to the board of education where she served not one but two terms. She is appointed to the Civil Rights Commission and currently serves on the boards of ACLU Hawaii and Hawaii Alliance for Progressive Action. She's also the business owner of affordable quality apartment rentals, president of the Iwamoto Family Foundation, maybe now it's beginning to sound unfamiliar, can you guess? She's also recognized as a champion of change by President Barack Obama in 2013, I mean not just done yet, just last year Newsweek listed her as one of 50 need to know pioneers for LGTQ rights. I am a total fan girl, I want to sign up for your fan club, please welcome Kim Koko Iwamoto. Thank you so much Loretta, I really appreciate the opportunity to share this inaugural experience with you. Thank you so much for being a member. Congratulations. Oh thank you. So how did you come to this point to do this show? Actually you know, thank you for asking, I mean I'm new to the island, I moved here in 2015 and I decided that it's either I could just stay home and just twiddle my thumbs and then not really know the island ever, but I could put myself out there, get to know people, get to know strong independent women, men alike. And one of the things that I did was I threw myself into a project where I started to write a book. That's right. That's right. Amazing. So congratulations. It's just you having a launch party in November 1st. First, that's right. You're coming right. Yes I am. Thank you. I already got my ticket. It's inspiring women of Hawaii. That's right. Thank you for doing this. I started reading some of the blurbs from it and it's amazing. Oh thank you. I feel like I know half of the women in this book. Oh sure you do. And it's so great to get to know them in a more intimate, deeper way and they really opened up to you. Yeah. It's a testament to how I think comfortable you make people feel and that's how I felt when you... That's right, so the perfect segue for me to say that one of the 24 women that we highlighted is obviously Kim Coco Iwamoto and I had this amazing conversation with you. I remember going to your home and you just opened up your home and your life to me and shared with me a life story. So I just feel like you're one of those people that I truly admire and respect because you speak truth to power. You would tell the emperor or empress, he or she has no clothes, as you would tell me as well if I mess up and just go ahead. But yes, please do. But let's get right to... Oh, but you know what? Let me just ask you. Fabulous pictures of you at Pride Parade last weekend. Yes. So I was so honored to serve as Grand Marshal of the Honolulu Pride Parade that took place here in Waikiki last Saturday. So thank you very much to the LGBT Legacy Foundation for bestowing that honor onto me and for all of the hundreds of voluntary hours and the resource dollars that it takes to make that kind of community event happen. And I think you saw in the picture that one of the sponsors was Bank of Hawaii and they let me kind of nestle into their contingent. They had a lot of great energy and we'll talk more about them in the program, I think. Right.  I mean, just my psyche, my thought process was, I'm an outsider, I'll always live in this liminal gray space, the insider-outsider. But for me to get to know the islands better, I also wanted to ask some tough questions, right? Right. And that's why I brought you in because I feel like you would speak truth to power and we chatted on the phone while actually we were texting. And you shared there was a couple of issues that bug you, your three big bug bears that we're going to talk about. Well, actually, I mean, so the way I kind of interpreted your kind of putting a topic out there, I thought what are three issues that people aren't really comfortable talking about? That's right. You know, that they're not comfortable articulating or challenging. And so, again, those three issues for me were paying a living wage, specifically in the nonprofit sector.  And so I had to deal with vaccinations. And so looking more into what's the mandatory vaccination schedule, that's my daughter and I, my daughter, Rory. And so, you know, I had to navigate the whole health requirements for school, et cetera. And then finally, I want to speak about a little bit about the layers of racism involved in the way people are responding to native Hawaiians, Kanakamali, protecting their land and their culture. Right. So let's get right into it. I mean, you shared that one of the things you really want to talk about was the hyper-crisis of paying poverty wages, right? That's right. While addressing poverty in Hawai'i. Let's jump right in. Yes. So I mentioned Bank of Hawai'i was a sponsor for Pride. They also were a sponsor for the Aloha United Ways Alice Report, which basically looked at families in Hawai'i and how many of them are living paycheck to paycheck. And really, what is the true minimum wage they can earn in order to survive? Because as you know, Hawai'i has the highest rates of homelessness in the nation. Yeah. So how is that happening? And so obviously, if you're not getting paid a survival wage, you end up potentially in the streets, right? So the Alice Report basically identified, and this was done two years ago, so it's a little dated. So it was $14.06 an hour. Hawai'i's minimum wage right now is $10.10. So I've been working with other community members to get the minimum wage in Hawai'i raised. I personally, given all the studies from MIT, our current trajectory of cost of living in five years, because the way minimum wage increases usually roll in, roll up over time. So I'm going for $22 personally an hour. That's what I think people need to survive in five years. Other people are going for $17. Right now in front of the ledge, I think the bill that hopefully will pass or could pass is $15 an hour, which will put many families above the survival wage identified through the Alice Report. And again, you can look at the Alice Report by going to the Aloha United Way website, and they have the report, they have synopses, but you know, back to when I was on the Board of Education, so this problem of short changing and not looking at true costs of delivering services, especially social services like education, you know, services around mental health, services for the homeless, services that affect families. A lot of times we don't represent the true cost of funders. And so in the case of public education, the Department of Education puts their budget together and then they deliver it to the Board of Education, and then we approve it and we send it on to the legislature. And so in Hawaii, the legislature is the only body that funds public education. So when I served on the Board, I asked the superintendent, is this the true cost? Is this really how much it costs to deliver quality education in Hawaii? They said, no, this budget's put together based on how much we think we can get from the ledge. Wow. I'm like, well, then you're just feeding into the dysfunction. That's right, because I was surprised to learn, I mean, from these reports and from you too, that the DOE full-time employees have paid so little that their kids qualify for free and reduced lunch. I mean, that's my heart. I mean, I'm an educator. It really breaks my heart. It does. I mean, we're not speaking actually about educators specifically, but the DOE system includes, you know, people custodians, technicians, education assistants, so it includes a lot of people. But yes, there are indeed, and I did verify this with the superintendent of schools at the time, that indeed, there are full-time employees of the DOE whose own kids qualified for free and reduced lunch. Basically the state is participating in perpetuating poverty within our state, and I don't think that's the right... Yeah. So let me just jump in and ask you. I mean, you said that right now you're working to try and raise it to 22. Well, I mean, I'm advocating for 22, understanding that. Exactly. So what does it look like? I mean... A bill almost made it through this last year for $15 an hour, but then there was some legal shenanigans that happened, or technical shenanigans that happened that kind of killed the bill. And so... But there is an opportunity to bring it back, and I have to say ironically, even though the legislature killed this minimum wage bill, they gave themselves a raise. Yes, they raised their minimum wage, and I talk about their salaries as a minimum wage also. Because no matter how little bit of work the representative might do, they can just like show up to half the meetings, they can do very little in their community, and they would so get paid the same amount.  And so that's why the community is really rallying together on this issue. On the other side to that, one of the pushback I heard was from the nonprofit sector. And this is why I wanted to address them head on. So myself and Tanya, my friend Tanya Yamaraka from Hilo, we coordinated a panel at the Hano Conference, and Hano is a Hawaiian Alliance for Nonprofit Organizations. And their director, Alisa, was kind enough to let us put this panel together, and we invited people from the nonprofit sector, people who do fundraising, and also grant makers were part of our panel. And of course, the audience was full of nonprofit board members, directors, and staff. So we're able to really speak about the options and solutions that are out there. So that you actually set a policy to pay a living wage, was there anything that changed? No, so what's the challenge is that, you know, a lot of the nonprofits, I think there's nonprofits who get state funding, right, they have state contracts, and there are nonprofits that do mostly fundraising through personal or grant foundations, et cetera. And what we heard from one of the foundations, and for myself, as a Reni Uemoto Family Foundation, we do not penalize applicants just because they're paying a living wage.  Especially, and I think I really challenge those nonprofit organizations that have any kind of mission statement that indicates that they are really there to uplift their communities with the economic aspect. And if those organizations themselves are paying poverty wages, you can achieve your mission by perpetuating the problem you're trying to solve. I think that's a problem. And I think they need to own up to that responsibility. Again, one of the problems is that just like the GOE, not asking for true costs from the legislature, a lot of nonprofits are doing that, too. They're submitting bids to get contracts that are way too low, that don't really say this is how much it costs, and they're underbidding each other, and that's a problem. So that needs to... That's like a bit to the floor. But I have to say that, you know, my family's business is Robert's Hawaii Tours, and now it's employee-owned, but they have government contracts with student transportation. They do not ask permission from the state to pay people the salaries they need to pay. If there's a shortage of bus drivers, then you got to pay wages to recruit them to work for your company so that you can fulfill the contracts to bus the students to school. You got to pay those wages, whatever they are, and so those companies are still making a profit. So the nonprofit sector should not feel like it should pay poverty wages just because they're delivering a good service. That's right. I'm with you, 100%. But for now, we are going to go for a break pretty soon, and then when we come back, we're going to speak to Kim Coco, and this time we're going to talk about her being a mother and how that's like being mother to Rory, and of course, segue to her other topic that she's very passionate about, which is on mandatory vaccinations. Hi, I'm Rusty Komori, host of Beyond the Lines. I was the head coach for the Punahou Boys varsity tennis team for 22 years, and we're fortunate to win 22 consecutive state championships. This show is based on my book, which is also titled Beyond the Lines, and it's about leadership, creating a superior culture of excellence, achieving and sustaining success, and finding greatness. If you're a student, parent, sports or business person, and want to improve your life and the lives of people around you, tune in and join me on Mondays at 11 a.m. as we go beyond the lines on Think Tech Hawaii. Aloha. Aloha. I'm Keisha King, host of At the Crossroads, where we have conversations that are real and relevant. We have spoken with community leaders from right here locally in Hawaii and all around the world. Don't you join us on ThinkTechHawaii.com or on YouTube on the Think Tech Hawaii channel. Our conversations are real, relevant, and lots of fun. I'll see you at the Crossroads. Aloha. Hi there, and you're watching Think Tech, and it's Top Love with Loretta Chan. Of course, we have our studio guest today, and it's Kim Coco Iwamoto. And right now, I'm going to segue and ask something about Kim Coco.  It was so nice to see this other side of you, just so paternal and so loving. So, thank you. I just want to correct that I'm not a legislator, and I've not worked at the legislature. I've only been there as a citizen activist. It was the Board of Education that I was elected to. So, yes, thank you for, yeah, I love being a mom. Rory is great. I feel like we're destined to be in each other's lives. So wonderful. And so with that love comes responsibility, right, for her health care, for her wellness and well-being. So, I never really considered vaccinations. I know for myself, if I don't have to get a flu vaccine or I can avoid getting vaccines, I do, I spend, I invest a lot in homeopathic and chiropractic, you know, in a lot of different alternative health to just keep my immune system strong. So I never really thought about vaccinations until my daughter rolling her in school, et cetera. So then I started following this, so the changes that are going on in Hawaii around the expansion of different vaccinations that are being required by our state. And I have to say, I just want to contextualize what I'm about to say as I've always been pro-choice. I'm a huge and longtime supporter of Planned Parenthood. I believe that women and all people should have autonomy and agency to go with, you know, to seek counsel from the physician, but ultimately to make decisions about their own bodies, what's going in their bodies, what's coming out of their bodies, you know, that they should have informed, they should be educated, be given alternatives and then be given access. So in viewing the requirements and the mandates around vaccinations of our children, I think about it with that lens of being pro-choice, pro-informed. And if people choose to get great, I actually think, because I also believe in Medicare for all. I believe vaccinations should be free to everyone if you choose to have it, if that's what you're choosing.  And one of the things that's really problematic is kids can be kept out of school, public school, private school, oftentimes daycare programs, you can be kept out. And one of the reasons why I find that really interesting is because during the 90s, there was a Ryan White act. Ryan White was a teenager who was hard from attending his school because he was HIV positive. That's right. You know, people said that's really unfair, there's a lot of stigma attached, and it's not based in anything. So they let somebody with, you know, so the Congress passed this act that said that schools and school districts cannot and states cannot discriminate against an individual for being HIV positive. So one of the things that's really interesting though is that the state now can ban kids from school for not being vaccinated, let's say, let's say if it's HIV, but now really the issue has come up, it's HPV is the issue. So you can be banned from school for being, for not getting vaccinated. But if you were HPV positive, you would be allowed to stay in school. So it's this very interesting contradiction, hypocrisy. On one hand, we value education, and then also I come from a civil rights perspective, which is the state acting in the least restrictive, least invasive way. Are there other ways to protect, to do a public health kind of model around disease and the way diseases are spread? One of the things I think about is the fact that when I travel to some countries, they have thermometers, basically laser thermometers pointed at every single person getting off the plane or entering the country. So then if there's an active virus in them, or something's going on, they can kind of put them to the side and let them get better. But for Hawaii, we have like 1.4 million people, we have 10 million tourists a year. So this concept that I learned about herd immunity, the idea of you want to vaccinate the herd and to a certain degree so that you protect it, our herd will never be able to get that because of the 10 million tourists that we never, we don't require vaccines from them. We don't thermograph or thermoscope, I don't know that word, but we don't take their temperatures. We don't do a lot of these things to prevent them from contaminating our herd. So why would we inject something, and here's the other part to this that I've been studying. As an attorney, you learn about liability, product liability. That is something that keeps manufacturers on their A game, right? So whether you build a car, anything, everything has liability, because you want to make sure that the consumer is protected. Vaccinations have been exempt from liability, 100% exempt. Congress passed the Vaccination Act, which said any producer of vaccinations, we don't care if it's ineffective.  A lot of the vaccines are being made in countries where, I mean, there's no consequence for doing a bad job. So let me ask you two questions then, so the first question is do you think that instead of having mandatory vaccination, the question, oh, we should then place the responsibility on the pharmaceutical companies, right, to force them towards having to say you need to be more transparent about how these vaccines are made, is it a matter of communication or, and then let me play devil's advocate, because I hear you, but do you also think that if we have more unvaccinated individuals in a community, do you think that this will bring also a higher risk of potential of acquiring vaccine preventable diseases? So, I mean, it's two questions. Right, and your questions, what I heard, were based on a lot of assumptions, right? And I think it's going to take a lot of time to unpack all of those assumptions. What I'm trying to say is, for myself and some other people, the challenge is I want to be informed.  And yes, in the insert, it says may cause injury or death. I mean, at least they're open about that.  Right, but for a lot of parents, and I learned this because, you know, my daughter did get vaccinated to get into her school, because I wasn't knowledgeable about it at the time. And I was never told that all of the side effects that she could befall her. Yeah. And then, and since then, I've been speaking with other parents, and also the doctor, the pediatrician has a duty to report that there is a vaccine injury. Yeah. But even then, there's a pressure for them not to report. Here's another thing. Pediatricians are given a financial payout if their patients get vaccinated on time, right? And you can look at it opposite. They get a, they get a deduction to get withheld money. That's right. So to get an incentive for vaccinating. So there's a financial incentive. There's basically a third party. That's right. The insurance company is now manipulating my pediatrician and the system to say what kind of treatment my child's going to get. That's right. Where, what other situation would we allow that kind of interference? Right. It's really shocking to me from a consumer advocate point of view that we would do that. So you have no choice, basically. No, there's financial pressure. So actually my physician was saying, oh yeah, you know, came up in, in a discussion that maybe we should, her office should just eject all the families who are questioning vaccinations because it may impact her overhead ability to meet her running an office cost. Wow. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like there's, there's a lot of craziness going on. And what we do know, and we're in this whole debate around opioid addiction and the consequences of the pharmaceutical companies. Yeah. What we've learned is that pharmaceutical companies are by far like four times more invested in lobbying. That's right. And making contributions to politicians than any other sector including guns, prisons, defense, weaponry, all of that stuff. Pharmaceuticals pay way more. That's right. But you know, we only have a couple more minutes left. But I also really wanted to quickly ask you this question because I know it's so important to you too. The one of the things that you're really passionate about is also this issue of the Aloha Aina movement. Yes. Because it's not one of our conversations.  Yes. And one of the big flags for me is I compare the protection of conservation lands, different, different actions that's happened here in Hawaii. One of them being in Manoa Valley. Yes. HIKO, the electric company wanted to put these 108 foot towers along the Waiheela Ridge in order to carry the power lines on the ridge line. So here's Manoa Valley and here's the ridge, St. Louis Heights Ridge. Right. So it would have gone up around University of Hawaii and then up towards the peaks. Yes. And yes, they wanted to do that in the community who are actually Japanese families, Chinese families, white families and the Hawaiians that were there were Hawaiian missionary families. But all of them were saying, no, do not put these in our sight lines as conservation. And they got their way. And they stopped it. Right. And they got their way.  Right. You're anti-electricity. That's right. Hey, you're anti-energy. Right. You know, no one said that. And people actually turned to the Hawaiians for protecting conservation that happens to be sacred to them. To say that you're anti-science. Suddenly they're being framed as anti-science. You're anti-science. Anti-progress. And one of the reasons we hear that is when somebody goes, oh, no, I support the team T because I believe in science. That is what they're saying. They're basically saying this group is anti-science. Right. And that in that is embedded a degree of racism. Right. That I feel like people need to own and recognize. And that's basically what I wanted to share. Yeah. No, no. I'm with you 100%. And that's why I think for our very first program, I really wanted to bring you in. Because I feel like you speak true to power. And you aren't afraid to bring up the issues that people need to hear or issues that people are too afraid to talk about. Because I mean, one of the things that I've noticed of having moved here as a Singaporean is that people are really gentle and really courteous and really nice. And sometimes in that, which I love, and that's why I moved here, but in that graciousness, sometimes we circumvent issues or conversations that we need to have. Yes. I agree. So I'm willing to take bold risk to put myself out there and make people will not agree with me. Yeah. And that's okay. And you know, people may share more information with me and might change my opinion on things or expand. Right. And I'm open to that. That's right. I'm not afraid of that. That's right. You're not afraid of tough love. You're not afraid of tough love. So also, since we wrapped up the show too, like quite quickly, I also really wanted to share that one of the things that you also shared in the book, right, is that you are never afraid to speak up for, you never want to do the work of the oppressor. That's right. And that's one of the things that stuck with me. You never want to do the work of the oppressor. So whatever you do, you always want to, whether when you have privilege of income, you want to help. If you have privilege of race, you want to have that conversation. If you have privilege of, and you're able to, it's like you play shifting roles. And you're able to see privilege. Right. And you recognize that privilege is not stagnant. And you're able to play these very different roles and put on different hats, which I think is what we must have and have these conversations, especially in the 21st century, where everything is, we're at an intersection. All of these issues meet. And we need to have these important conversations. Yeah. And also, don't do the work of the oppressor. Don't do it. I have to do the inner voice too. That's right. Your inner voice, do not listen to the words that you down in people's remarks. Right. Don't internalize that. And those are just the words we need to hear on Thursday. And the rest of the week, really. So if you want to find out more about Kim Coco, we'll find out more about her and that wonderful book. She must be plugging my own book. It's Mutual Publishing's new book, Inspiring Women of Hawaii. It's out now at all major bookstores, Costco, Target, Amazon. And also join us for a public launch at Bunsen Noble AMC Alamoana Center, November 15, 6 p.m. And all proceeds on the day of the events to work the YWCA and regular sales of the books go to work the women of Waianae scholarship. So please support Inspiring Women of Hawaii. Well, thank you all so much. Thank you for watching Tough Love with Laura Chan because you know what? Tough times don't last, but tough people do. Thank you, Laura. Thank you. Bye-bye.


We are under the lights this evening as we get you set for another edition of baseball on the show tonight An intriguing matchup between the New York Yankees and the Seattle Mariners Major league baseball on the show starts now Taiwan Walker will be on the mound for the series opener. What's your take on him Dan? Hey, it wasn't a great performance in his last start, but he did pitch well enough to earn the win We'll see if he can turn in a little bit better performance in this one Stepping into the box Brett Gardner. As you can tell easily from the splits. He's really struggled away from their home ballpark In field in the over shift here now the pitch Underway here in the Monday opener as the game's first pitch misses for Bowl one and fellas You take a look at these Seattle Mariners at the start of play here tonight They came out on the losing end last time out and are in a bit of a skid in fact They've lost seven of their last ten. Yeah, Maddie This definitely looks like a situation where somebody's gonna have to call a team meeting I don't know if it comes from a veteran or the manager decides to close the doors for a second But this team has not played well. They find themselves losing lately They lost the last game and they're gonna need a spark to get this thing turned around Two balls in a strike now to the Yankees leadoff man, and it's two balls and two strikes now three and two to the Yankees center fielder Torres waits on deck now the three and two pitch Hit hard back up the middle And a base hit so the leadoff man is aboard I know in today's game everybody's trying to go yard But can you look at having a better at bat as a leadoff hitter you take it full count You make the pitcher work, and then you come through with a knock great start Now at the plate Torres and as you take a look at the splits here He's actually better against right-handed pitching this season first delivery to him on the way Swing and a miss and he's behind 0-1 Torres is really a well-balanced hitter That doesn't seem to matter whether he's facing right-hander or a lefty He makes a lot of loud contact either way which is quite rare in today's game Yeah, you can tell this guy really pays attention puts time in the cage And he's in the second safely with a stolen base Well, I think he's making it pretty obvious why he's batting leadoff, isn't he works his way on base to start the game And then does even better by swiping second to put himself into scoring position He's trying to make an impact from the get-go in this one seedier fields it cleanly and that's out number one That's a curve But doesn't mean a hitter Aaron And that'll bring up Aaron judge who comes in today leading the American League in batting for the season Guy continues to swing a hot bat hit over 300 last month We'll see if he can keep scorching here in this one becomes set. Here's the nothing-and-nothing pitch Swung on and missed for the first strike. 0-1 pitch Swung on and lifted in the air to left center left fielder is on the move He gets there to put it away, but the runner tags and breaks for third And he's up the third safely now with two gone in the inning That was a nice job to track that one down in the alley because it definitely saved the run from scoring instead He's only able to move up to third now in the box Giancarlo Stanton and he's the right man for the job with runners in scoring position as he ranks fifth in the AL in RBI's entering play well big-time power threats like him tend to rack up a lot of RBI's He's also way up there on the home run leaderboard first offering on its way Cut fastball taken for strike one and set up behind the plate as Kenny Jansen as you see the rest of the umpire Crew there. Hey the book on Kenny Jansen D road not a very big zone, but he will give you that low pitch below the knees Yeah, and he's consistent. You're okay with that as an offensive flair He wants to give that pitch below the knees if this pitcher can execute consistently you better make the adjustment And the plate and he'll rein it in as the count moves to one and two Gardner on third with two out Hit sharply on the ground. He's got it Pro to first in plenty of time and aside is retired One left for the Yankees, it's the Yankees nothing mariners coming to bat major league baseball is on the show James Paxton the left-handed Canadian gets the starting assignment here then please act. What do you got? Hey, man, we're gonna look at a guy that's really been struggling lately in this last three starts He has a whip of over 5.0 lots of base runners lots of hits and lots of walks and that doesn't add up to very good Performances, so he's gonna look to turn things around in this one here today Here's D Gordon now it'll eat things off here in the bottom half of the first There's a fastball well off the plate for a ball and as the Yankees get started here tonight guys They've had it go in the last 10 games There's seven and three over that stretch including a win last time out Yeah, Maddie taking a look at the standings right here. This team has a nice lead comfortable You always want to find yourself in a position where you're about five to nine games got the advantage You know one series isn't going to totally kill you in the standings in this team. This team's sitting pretty right now Two and one count now to the Mariners leadoff batter. He'll try to bunt his way on as he gets this one down And the throw will be too late so it's a bunt single to get him started here So here's Malik Smith as the first pitchers have been high it's ball one They'll enter play here with an average just over 250 for home runs and 21 driven in Fastball laid off well below the knees Well, I'll tell you he doesn't look very comfortable on this mound right now This mound isn't the same one that he pitches at at home. I know they all look the same, but they're not all the same To all count the pitch This inning hasn't started ideally for him on the mound But here on 3-0 you have to have the mentality that you're only a strike and or a ground ball double play away from getting back on track Three balls in a strike to count to Malik Smith, but he's back in easily beyond three and one here. It comes Fastball is taken for a strike and he runs it full three and two and he looks at a cold strike three as the cut fastballs in there And that's out number one not too often you see in the back goal from three and odor with strikeout So that's a pretty good job on the mound right there Kind of nice that he got a free strike on the 3-0 take but he still had to put it in the zone Mitch Hannigar the next to bat He'll swing and lift a ball fouled off to the left and out of play First swings for him in this one with a runner still at first and one gone Pitch out nothing doing and they pitch out here, but nothing's going on Runner at first year one man out. Oh, and he breaks and they've got him picked off Tagged by Torres and he's out at second base Hxton peers in here's the 2-1 Three and one now Good job to work the count and put himself back in the driver's seat Started off with one strike and now he's got to count his favorite three and one And the count will be full Bases are empty here with two men out. This is in high in the air out toward left center. Gardner is there And that retires the side None left for Seattle. We are still scoreless Here's the second baseman DJ LeMahieu previously with Taiwan Walker. He comes in as a 3-16 hitter Ready with the first pitch here. It comes LeMahieu playing here in his age 31 season his contract is set to expire at the end of this season So he may end up hitting the market this winter. I'll tell you what boys? I'd like to be this guy's agent He's approaching free agency. He's one of the best players in our game He's lived up to everyone's expectations and I expect him to get absolutely paid this offseason Heading out towards shallow right on the run is Hennigar. He's there and records the first down batting there the left you will Mike Talk in now Mike talkman. He'll get to take his first cuts here Pitch on the way No one That hook stayed up in his own You can see he struggled with that curve ball early. He's trying to find that release point with his off-speed pitches But to see if he can find the feel for that thing moving forward on the 1-0 He's looked at for the first strike When it looks like this guy's gonna work in the upper part of the strike zone It'll be interesting to see if this lineup can adjust to the way he pitches No score here as we play inning number two and he misses two and one You want all even now two and two fouled away other to-to offering Now a swing and a miss he struck him out and it's two up two down to start the second Bases are empty here with two gone and striding into the plate. It'll be Miguel and do hard Ready to deliver. Here's the first pitch And that misses for ball one One one and this is pop foul, but perhaps playable behind first and No one can get there. He'll try it again Two out nobody on Maybe trying to back him up a bit there with the fastball He's a veteran out on that mound He understands he has to establish that inside fastball to open up the outer half of the plate The late with the swing, but he stays alive still two and two Here it comes Hot shot on the ground is short right to him Pro to first to get him easily in the side is retired So the Yankees go one two three will go to the bottom of the second. No score Digging in now for the Mariners Daniel Volgoback Lead off the whole number for the second number 20 first delivery to him on the way Swung on and missed Volgoback a 27-year-old he was taken in the second round back in 2011 Yeah, he has turned himself into a really nice ball player I wouldn't put him on a superstar level, but you know what they didn't miss with this pick either you go into high rounds And you carve out a career the way this guy has nice pick wind up and the o2 pitch And he got him Well, there's the great equalizer to change up L. Combio. Listen batting if you can keep that pitch in your back pocket and pull it out I don't like he did right there user hitters. They don't stand a chance. Here's the third baseman now Kyle Seeger Yes, he'll take a look at ball one Hexton also known as big maple due to his Canadian roots He was a fourth round selection back in the 2010 first-year player draft Hey when you come out of the middle rounds you have to grind for everything And that's exactly what this guy has done and he has turned himself into a solid ball player and a strike to even the count one and one and It's fouled away the one two is taken for ball to bottom of the second here with no score and He founds this one off another to two Hey, if you're gonna get a swing on a pitch that far in off the plate pretty much options are wide open Swing and a miss look like the knuckle curve there and that's out number two Not a lot of guys throw that knuckle curve, but some guys have a lot of success with it Some say it has more bite than the traditional ball, but I think it's more of a fielding It just works for certain pitchers and it worked right there. That'll bring in Tom Murphy As he'll take a look at an off-speed pitch here that misses for ball one They'll try to make something happen with two gone in the bottom of the second Could take there to lay off the high-fast ball Knuckle curve and a beauty two-and-one now into the corner and slicing foul Faces are empty here with two men out Just a masterful job of pitching here as he strikes out this side in order Three up three down three strikeouts not too shabby. We're back with more on this Monday night after this New winning set to get underway now with the plate Mike Ford Mike Here comes the first pitch the windup and the 01 Ford playing here in his age 26 season. This is his second year as a major leaguer And he'll take the fastball here inside off the plate. It's one and two Stoned cold take right there that fastball very well could have sent him packing back to the bench To two balls and two strikes now All count three and two From 0 and 2 to 3 and 2 what a great at back to start this inning off. Hey, this could be a productive inning fastball right back to the mound And he'll flip on the first to record the out and with that let's take a moment to show you what's happening in the American League's Western Division Set to get his evening at the plate started Kyle Higashiyoka And it's been a real struggle for him with the bat so far this year looking to get things turned around in a hurry Popped up and he'll lunge out of the crouch to make the play for out number two Now that is the centerfielder Brett Gardner Here's Brett Gardner now one for one after a single this first time up Yeah guys still the only hit in this game so far they've been pretty well shut down guys on the mound have really much Controlled the whole outcome up into this point No luck will reach out with one hand to make the catch on the move and that ends the inning One two three go to bombers home half of the third coming up no score into the box now Dom Thompson Williams he starts off the inning against a guy who struck out the side last inning How do they get to him here? I'm not sure Matt that they want to stay as patient We're going a lot of strikes. They might want to start swinging a little bit earlier in the count First pitch of the at-bat Thompson Williams just 24 years of age He was a fifth round pick back in the 2016 first-year player draft Hey, this middle round selection is still developing But he's doing it at the big league level and he has a lot of time to get his tool set ironed out Therefore it is Stanton and he's got it for the first out batting eight the left fielder No luck Digging in Austin Nova as he'll get his first opportunity in this one. Here it comes Well behind that fastball. It's a swinging strike. That's in there and he's deep in the hole now 0 and 2 Everything this guy throws is hard that change if he throws is in the high 80s to go along with that good heater down the third baseline This will be a foul ball and it's still 0 and 2 Bottom of ending number three nothing nothing our score and he'll try and tempt him with one of the dirt But he'll hold back here It's one and two and this is swung on and missed his fifth strike out already And there are two gone in the inning good job of making him chase a pitch for the strikeout there Not that's the advantage of getting a head in the count You can really force hitters to expand their zone to protect and when they're in that mode getting them to go after a pitch They can't do much with becomes a lot easier into the box still and more As he lays off a fastball too low for ball one and you see that average below the dreaded Mendoza line And this is just off the outside corner ball to Two outs here and the focus needs to stay sharp You don't want that lineup turning over in an inning if you can help it too high and it's three and oh Dee Gordon would be next To out nobody on and he takes ball for so a good job out of the nine hole in getting on base As we go back to the top of the order The batter number nine second baseman He was back to the top of the order now or the end up next the speedy D. Gordon Pitch out nothing doing move over to first and a dive, but he's back in Did the first and as it turns out the two-out walk doesn't come around to haunt him as that ends the inning One left for Seattle will head to the fourth still scoreless and that'll bring up Gleber Tour is Leaded off here against Taiwan Walker. This game is rolling right along We move into the middle innings with no score You'd think by now one of these two teams would be able to get some base runners on to get him in but that hasn't been the case Here comes the first pitch Timing just a tick off there is this one's fouled off to the right and this misses the outside corner So it's knotted up at one and one swing and a liner foul Here's the one and two delivery At the ball swing and a liner, but foul the two-two one more time Doesn't get the zone count full now Not a time to fool around right now on a three-two count with the middle part of the order coming up Expect a good pitch to swing it off pitch on Hold high in the air out to left field. No luck is right there And he puts it away for the first down the batter the designated hitter Aaron Judd So one away here with the bases empty and that'll bring up the former American League rookie of the year big Aaron judge Ready with the first pitch here it comes And he misses inside with that one ball one Just one hit a piece for both of these clubs and that pitch misses in the dirt and it's 2 and 0 now Judge who fittingly gets the nickname all rise who was selected in the first round back in the draft of 2013 yeah, Maddie. They certainly got it right when they drafted this guy He has turned himself into an absolute superstar Everybody knows this guy's name and kids are buying his jerseys And he won't even have to take the bat off its moorings of four pitch walk here and with the bases empty You don't feel bad about walking that guy He's capable of taking deep every time he digs in so it's not the worst thing in the world to work around him If you can next will be the cleanup hitter Jean-Carlo Stanton the liver. Here's the first pitch Stanton 30 years of age is almost certainly headed to represent the American League in this year's all-star game He's currently leading all right fielders in fan votes. Yeah, this comes as no surprise This guy is one of the best players in the game a superstar and that's what the all-star game is about the fans get To see the best players put on display. He's ready. Here's the o2 pitch not close with that when it's way above the strike zone If I'm in the box, you take a step out right here Take a deep breath after that high fastball you got to be leery of him bury in something in the dirt fouled away Pitching has the upper hand early as we're scoreless in inning number four and a splitter here But he had a bit too much on it as this bounces up to the plate This is exactly the reason why this guy has been so successful and has played this game so long Scrambling pitch after pitch making this guy work out on the mound and this is a strike three call Caught a break there two away. Well, no preferential treatment there Sometimes we see great hitters have their calls go their way on close pitches, but not this time I think that was actually a good take but on two strikes anything that close can go either way Walker a move to first and that sends DJ Lemakiew into the box as he takes a fastball off the plate for a ball one and all Oh for one for him here in this one to owe to a guy with this kind of pop You better be awfully careful because he's gonna be swinging out of his shoes from the bell kicks and deals To tight with that one three and oh no runs just one hit and no errors for the Yankees so far And he'll just make him throw one over here three and one You maybe get two pitches a game where all the guesswork goes out the window This is certainly that situation the three and one pitch is taken for strike two Good spot for an RBI put the ball in play with the runner in motion. He could score all the way from first He pops it up Gordon on to the grass. He gets there to make the catch and that ends the inning Yanks leave one on to the bottom of the fourth now still with no score to go in the bottom of the Digging in now. Malik Smith over one after he took a look at strike three in his first play appearance Yeah in today's game certainly don't get completely reprimanded for too many strikeouts But no one likes to go down looking expect him to be a little bit more aggressive at the dish this a big on the Ground to the right side and that is through into right field for a single now bad right fielder Had a girl the at bat a check on first and he'll dive back in safely Stepping in now is Mitch Hanager as the first pitch misses to him. It's ball one These are the moments in the game that can sway it one way or another while you get a W or a loss right here Lead off man on hard of the order coming up guy out on the mound as guys were cut out for him Swing in a miss as he ramps up on the fastball one-on-one His heaters got some late ride through the zone a lot of late swings right now You're only gonna get to that pitch if you get the front foot down early And this ball runs away for ball to two and one bag and he's back easily under at first with no outs here bullet back up the middle Gardner is right there one down now batter Number 20 Dan Vogelbach is next. He was a strikeout victim in his first try.  Don't be shocked if this pitcher tries to rush a heater right here No runs two hits and no errors in the game for the Mariners to this point One strike pitch is a fastball high and that evens things at one That's a good take on a fastball out of the zone. Hey, I get it He's looking for a ball to drive, but that ball was a little bit too far up in the zone That's one you normally pop right up the 1-1 and they pitch out here, but nothing's going on Strike taken the throw is gonna be far too late. That's a stolen base So we swipe second successfully, but you have to wonder now if that might actually end up taking the bat out of the hands Who one of their better hitters? Well, that's a good point man, but I'd be a little surprised if that's the case It's still early in the game is tied So that would be a pretty cautious move to pitch around him here or just walk him flat out No pitcher likes to take the count to three and two especially when you throw a non-competitive pitch like that on two and two That one wasn't even close Here comes the payoff pitch and he struck him out second time tonight now that he's been set down on strikes Well his struggles continue. It's been a rough goal of it at the plate with him and watching this at bat It's clear to me that his rhythm and timing they're just all off even as a pitcher like I was you can tell these things and exploit them Stepping in now Kyle Seeger fouled off Looking to put the ball in play here. He went down on strikes in his first at bat That's over, but low. It's a ball in a strike down to third in time and the side is retired Mariners leave one through four still tied nothing nothing Welcome back to T-Mobile Park in Seattle as we send it down to Heidi Watney Thanks Matt I talked with the Yankees manager Aaron Boone during the break about the team's offensive performance so far and Overall, he's really happy with the app. That's they're putting together Despite the fact that they've yet to push a run across the game is still tied and the pitch count for their opposition is really getting up there They think that making him work as hard as he has is going to pay off later in the game And that they just need to stick to the process Thank You Heidi Ready for another chance Mike Tuckman comes into this at bat 0 for one in the ball game now here It comes it's fouled away Now the one-and-one pitch Misses ball two he fouls this one off here now the 2-2 Miguel Andujar is on deck pitch on He is in there a called strike three I'll tell you he looks really dialed in on the bump right there He's got a shutout going and he really seems to have this lineup off balance Even when he challenges them up in the zone, they don't have an answer for it And that'll bring up Miguel Andujar As the first pitch to him is off the plate for a ball one-and-one He's 0 for one thus far and he lays off a fastball here that looked pretty good, but it's 2-1 oh Hey, you want to talk about being in the zone this guy's been raking lately And it all starts with this pitch selection two great tanks and he's almost daring to pitch or just go ahead and challenge him 3-0 to him now one out nobody on Line toward the alley and left center And that's a base hit one for two in his first couple of plate appearances And he's gonna make it there Barely as he's in the second base with a double help out. I'll tell you that's one of the first good swings We've seen anybody put on this guy so far. He's been throwing the ball really well But that was one of the few mistakes we've seen him make to the plate now Mike Ford There's a swing and a high deep drive headed for the right field corner and that nearly broke our scoreless tie instead It's a foul ball both teams with just two hits apiece thus far Tough to do much with that one a swing and a miss There's a pitch. We haven't seen a while. It's gonna be tough on the hitters if they have to incorporate that into their mindset Working for the punch out and the offering Well, there's the classic O2 wasted fastball not even close to the zone we'll see what he throws on the next pitch Ball and two strikes here it is He might have to look for a different way to put this guy away on 2-2 He's already seen the curve ball a couple of times. So he might be looking for it from the stretch Chopper to short scooped up and there aren't two away now up next to the ankle the catcher So coming to the plate Kyle Higashiyoka runner in scoring position with Sugarn first pitch of the at-bat Taken and that one catches the bottom part of the strike zone Higashiyoka a California born ball player. He was selected in the seventh round during the 2008 draft I know this guy wouldn't go into the category of superstar But to grind out the career he has being drafted where he was my hats off to him Here's the 1-1 And he lays off for a ball two and one Good time to be a nine hole hitter right now more than likely going to get a good pitch to hit The top of the order is looming on deck good spot to be a good hitter right now Yanked on the ground down the line and they're gonna hit the board first tonight as this balls down for extra bases The run comes across to score and they jump ahead 1-0 Nothing the pitcher was spotting his pitches effectively until now Work he the edges paint the corners, but he left this one right over the plate and it cost him with an RBI extra base hit right there So here's the veteran Brett Gardner and she'll take a look at ball one. He's one for two in this one One and oh here it is Two out here in a runner at second one and two now is that one's fouled off Here comes the one and two a swing and a miss on a ball way outside the strike zone and the inning is over Hickey strike for a run on the RBI double Bottom of the fifth coming up now one nothing yanks Welcome back to T-Mobile Park in Seattle as we send it down to Heidi Watney Thanks Matt. I talked with Mariners manager Scott service during the break about his team's offensive performance so far and Flat out he told me they just need to put better swings on the ball right now He said they're searching for ways to drive the ball with some authority because it's just not happening for them today They haven't gotten an extra base hit yet So it's been a real struggle getting guys into scoring position But the key he said is not to panic Sometimes you just have to fight through the downturns and keep your focus and energy. There you go for the very good stuff Heidi thanks the catcher next per Seattle Tom Murphy He leads off in the bottom of the fifth as they look to break through on the scoreboard for the first time in this one Yeah, baseball is a game of adjustments and it's time. They start making some they don't need to change their entire approach necessarily But now is maybe when they start thinking about ways to get the guy in the mound out of his rhythm a bit Right down the middle with a change up but not what he was looking for taken for a strike That's a pitch he'd like to have back. You're not going to see very many pitches like that from a pitcher of this quality I'm sure he'd like to have that one back to take a swing at it Liner in there for a base hit and this one scoots all the way to the wall He just sports that ball off the wall and now the question should he have continued on or not He thought about pushing it. I'm sure but decided to play it safe Really close, but I think this time he's probably right and staying at first Stratting forward now is the DH Dom Thompson Williams. He flew out in his last ad-bat Bouncer up the middle glove by Lame here. He'll go to the bag for one Safe says the first base umpire is the throw was too late after You see he tries to take it himself at second base, but they just can't turn the double play Striding in once again, Austin Nova. He looked at bounce back after striking out his last time up Yeah, and kind of shocked he got blown away with a fastball You could tell he was late on that one and we'll see if he tries to cheat to something this a big Gardner is there to put it away and the runner will be forced to retreat back to first Now that is good stuff More into the plate now Dylan Moore he drew a base on balls his first time up stretch. Here's the pitch There's not too many umpires in the game that are gonna ring that first strike right there That was borderline up even though it was in the zone Both clubs with three hits in the ballgame Edge of the zone that time taken and ruled a strike Nice adjustment out on a mound over through the first one a little bit But got on top and let that ball grip right out in front of him 11 and this one's in the dirt get into scoring position here with two away as that'll be scored a wild pitch Well the intent there with that two-strike pitch was obviously to get him to fish for something He couldn't do a whole lot with but there's the risk that comes with that as well If you don't execute or your catcher can handle it very well, you give up free bases Trying to hold the lead here's the delivery When a pitch is close to working through a quick inning that's when you really need to grind out some at bats He's done a good job of that and that's really big when you're hitting towards the bottom of the order Diving effort is it's off his glove Here, but he's well safe at first and there are two on and two out now That's the difference in today's games Any count but the battle is able to deliver on a 3-2 breaking ball and here's the speedster D. Gordon This'll take a look at a pitch too low So find a season with runners in scoring position Gordon is below the Mendoza line the banding average under 200 Unfortunately, yeah, Maddie. He's well aware of it runners in scoring position. That's where you need to be on your game He's just expanded the zone entirely too much in these situations Hit hard towards center and a base hit and that'll get the run in from third The center fielder number Now time will be called here as you see the pitching coach making his way out to the mound to pay a quick visit Malik Smith the next to hit as he grounds one briskly to short throw over to LeMay he would second and that'll do it So it's a run on three hits no errors and two men left on Five innings complete all tied at one and one digging in now for the Yankees Torres 0 for 2 for him to this point labor Here comes the first pitch Couple of righties starting to loosen now in the bullpen who's wind up here comes the 1-0 Hit sharply on the ground and that finds its way through for a base hit Boy after that base knock right there D roll. He extends his hitting straight to seven games Yeah, and you can tell he's made some necessary adjustments at the plate anytime you're getting a knock every day of the week You're doing things right keeping that front shoulder top staying inside the ball Aaron judge is in for the third time now as he takes a called strike. It's oh and one Catches the zone as well. It's oh and two now Man aboard here in a one-one ball game. It's a ball and two strikes not Aaron judge This is swung on and missed in the American League's leading hitter has gone on strikes one away Well pitching domination continues just a total of two runs on the board So both of these starters should feel really good about their showings if you love good pitching This has been the game for you and digging into the batter's box next will be Giancarlo Stanton One the count from the stretch They're on first here with one gone in a one-one tie and he's a little too high with that one two balls and a strike Now the two one pitch ball three Team's been struggling on offense. Let your D work for you right here pound the zone three one lifted down the line in left and That will end up a foul ball Fouled away another one sent foul Keeps fighting them off the eighth pitch of the at-bat coming up And he misses with that one for ball for so that'll put runners on first and second now with one away Second base Here comes the Seattle skipper on his way to the mound and a change is forthcoming as that's gonna do it for his starter here this evening So he'll leave with a couple of runners aboard that are his responsibility meaning he'd be happy to get out of here with a no decision Mr. Cortes junior takes the man to try to get out of this mess. There are two on with only one away Okay Junior Be his first assignment here as he'll face him with runners at first and second and one gone He set and the pitch Well the Yankees have been searching for that big hit pretty much all game it remains to see if they can get it But now it sure would be a good time Swing and a line drive. Ah, but he just misses extra bases first and second now one man out One and two to DJ LeMay here Good thing he didn't make contact with that pitch only he could do is probably hit that on the ground It could be a double-play ball the one two And the third baseline but a foul ball as it holds it two and two Yeah, you could tell he was ready for another fastball, but the pitcher went to breaking ball and the hitter just fouls that one off Straight three called and now he's one out away from getting out of this It's been a really rough day for this lineup There's really no other way to say now that not a lot of good scoring opportunities and like they've had them like right now It's just been an uphill battle for them to make anything positive happen. Now Mike Tuckman As the first pitch to him runs a bit inside for Bowl one over two from him so far in this one One and oh here it is and is one and two now One and two here it is He struck him out the third time. He's fanned in the game Yanks strand a pair Score remains deadlocked in one another shot. Now Mitch Things out against James. Don't like didn't as we get the ending under way Pedigar First pitch of the at-bat Some action out in the bullpen couple of right-handers starting to loosen up that evens it up one and one pitch on the way Might have been taking all the way right there that pitch couldn't have split the strike zone any better And you can bet he wants that one back at the plate swing and a miss on the fastball and that's the first out Well, there's nothing like seeing a good power pitcher that has a good fastball. What does he do? No, but it's good fastball right by brings the express no chance to put that ball in play Into the box now Daniel Vogel back He will take strike one on the fastball here.  He's hit listen is to add bats so far the wind up and the 01 Faces are empty one man out two balls in a strike to the Mariners first baseman To two and two now Really feels like he's just on cruise control out there on the mound right now Boy, this is a tight one. You kind of get the feeling like the next team that scores is gonna win this one Three and two now a pitch home Is it called third strike down in the zone? It's been a rough night at the yard for him. That's three times He's gone down on the banks in this one hurt big really figured out how to attack this guy the girl The mound of the play Kyle Seeger as he'll go after the first pitch to him and comes up empty It's strike one. He's 0 for 2 in the ballgame so far Paxton steps into his wind up 0-1 on its way Ball one boy. He looks strong up there in the mound this inning He's got a chance to punch out the side in order and against the middle of the order, too Bases are empty here with two men out fouled off the 1-2 Lifted down the line in left and that is down as that could be two bases and this one will bounce into the wall And he is in the second with a two-out double Yeah, this one was starting to look like it's gonna be one of those one two three easy innings But now all of a sudden they have to go ahead run standing out there at second base after the two-out double big moment here At the plate Tom Murphy and he'll watch one miss up on the way for a ball one Under in scoring position at second with two down a strike to even the count one and one Good idea with the change, but it's two and one There's a swing and a high drive into left center field of all that's carrying And he brings it down to end the inning as the go-ahead run is left stranded Danger reverted following the two-out double on to the back third tonight stick around on the show Seventh inning ready to roll. Here's Miguel and a hard now He came across to score after doubling in his last at bat First offering on its way. It's fouled away This is hit softly the third and this will be no problem over with third and there's the first down Now batting the first paper Mike for Now batting Mike Ford 0 for 2 on his line this far first pitch coming here it is In there at the knees strike one that's in there, and he's deep in the hole now and to it So back-to-back sliders for strikes. Does he come back with yet another? Hey, that's back-to-back really good sliders I wouldn't be surprised if you threw another one right here. Looks like he's got that slide ball in his back pocket right now So he ran the fastball by him for the punch out the cat forward is the second out in the seventh inning plate now Kyle Higashiyoka This will take a look at a slider here that finds the zone for strike one. He's working on a one-for-two game so far Into the wind-up here comes the 0 and 1 Two out nobody on that misses and we're even at two and two Founded back up the middle Gordon is up with it on the first and this will remain a tie ball game as the inning is So the Yankees go one two three Still tied one a piece Your attention, it's the call from the pen to take over on the mound and start the home seven eighty-five Louis Set the Striding in Dom Thompson Williams go for two of the run scored so far the designated hitter Ready with the first pitch here it comes And that misses inside one and oh the fouls this one off now the one and one pitch Is strike two swinging Late on that one is it's fouled off to the left side Not surprised he's laid on a heater right there just saw an off-speed pitch one to stay back a little bit too long Smoke toward the hole And that will get through in the right. So there's your possible go ahead run on base to lead off the inning The battle the left field To the plate now Austin Nova Righty against righty as this is taken for a ball. It's one and oh no hits to this point High strike there and it's one and one Go ahead runs the board here at first with nobody out Hit on the ground a third and do hard fields a clean link the Mayhew for one On the first and they get the double play but boy was he ever upended at second base Well, it was a promising start with a leadoff man on in a tie ball game But there's nothing like a double play ball to change the course of an inning at the plate Dylan Moore now the pitch This is on the ground over to first And he'll step on the bag himself and the inning is over Mariners go down quietly there score remains tied one-to-one Brandon Brennan has been summoned from the bullpen as he'll do so to start the eighth Number 65 Brandon Ready All set for the start of the inning so the batting order turns over now and set to go the center guard number 11 Brett First pitch of the at-bat Bouncer to the left side There is Seager and the first will take care of him So he's thrown out by the only man standing on the left side of the infield out that one away Well, I think he got away with one right there Oh, it was a fastball right down the middle and he hit it hard But he couldn't elevate it at all would have been a different story if he did Settling in now Torres it was a single for him in his last at-bat First pitch on its way Right-hander against right-hander as this is a ball one-to-no and down in the mariner bullpen It looks like a right-hander is up to throw on out nobody on hit sharply toward the right side And that's into the outfield for a one-out base hit and this one scoots all the way to the wall Boy, there's a long drive bullet off the wall right there But the outfielder does a really good job be rolled of getting that one clear and getting it back in to keep them At first for a long single. Yeah, and also a nice job by the base runner Put his head down being over aggressive and getting thrown out at second base He saw the play and put the brakes on and got back for a base hit. Yeah D-roll I think he would have been toast if he tried to stretch that Here's big Aaron Judd Pitch out nothing doing Possible go-ahead runs on first one away Not close. It's 2-0 the delivery a check on that go-ahead run at first Another throw over and you'll get dirty, but he's back in safely now the 2-0 Possible go-ahead runs on first one away Fouled away now a throw over to first Dive, but he's back in there Spitches slung on and missed and the AL's leading hitter is set down on strikes two away in a double-play situation You kind of expect most pitches to be down on itself hoping for a ground ball Also, that was an interesting pit selection to go up in the zone. I think he caught him off guard a little bit Jeprono Stanton now Mitch misses low the throw down. He is not in time pretty close But he got in there safely it was pretty obvious He would likely be on the move with two outs and I'm sure the defense knew it too But he has lightning speed and was able to take the bag anyways Go ahead runs in scoring position here with two down in the dirt here And the runner will stay put but the count moves to 2-0 2-1 now 2-1 here it is Slider misses and he's in danger of losing him here three and one Every base runner in a close game like this really matters So you can't afford to be giving out free passes this late one, but this is foul down toward the box at third He got the fastball where he wanted and just pulled off of it right side, but it's gonna be a foul ball We had runs in scoring position here with two down and he popped him up back into foul territory behind first And no one can get there. We'll try it again Another foul ball and this battle will continue. He's set the 3-2 Ground ball sent back up the middle a dive and he knocks it down And not really much of a chance to recover there as you'll reach first on what Undoubtedly will be scored as an infield single cup that close here But he comes through in the eighth to extend his hitting streak. Yeah, and he was staring at his last at bat right there Probably his last at bat would have been tough to get him another a b in this one But he's able to get it done. Hey better late than never and I'm sure when he walked in that batter's box right there He's thinking this very well couldn't be my last a b of this game So if I'm gonna keep this streak alive, I'm gonna have to do it right now Looking to wiggle out of this here. It is now a ball lined of the left side Foul runners on first and third two away. Yo, too Skied into straight away right giving chase his head a girl And he brings it down to end the inning is the go-ahead run is left stranded Yanks strand a pair Score remains deadlocked at one Your way will stay in the ball game is a new shortstop Now playing fourth Number 14 Tommy Kingley is on to pitch out of the bullpen in the bottom half of the eight Number 48 Bottom of any number eight set to go Stepping up to the plate D Gordon so far two for three in this one Gordon Ready to deliver. Here's the first pitch. That's lifted the other way out to left and there's a base hit So just like that the lead-off man's aboard representing the potential go ahead run But hey, you'll take three for four every day of the week. Yeah today's day in age Damn where everything's a home or a walk or a strikeouts refreshing to see this guy throw out three base heads Stepping in now Malik Smith So score around a month and pull back for ball one the bunt attempt misses that time for strike one That's not great form right there But you can't be surprised a lot of these guys were not asked to bun coming up through the minor league So don't expect every sack bun to get down got it back in time there And it's two and one and it looks like the Yankees will have a left-hander up and throwing in the bullpen It runs aboard here at first with nobody out Trying to get that go-ahead run to scoring position now as he puts this one down And there's one down now now battle the right field bit Hennigarh Coming to the plate now Mitch Hennigar. He went down on strikes last time up first pitch There it's second here's the pitch and it's fouled away Chameley is one of those guys that just seems to be at his best under pressure Runners in scoring position tight game tough hitters at the plate That's when he's at his best one of the keys Matty Vita being a good reliever is being able to pitch out of trouble Trouble that's created by the pitchers before you or sometimes you can have some mess that you put on yourself Hey regardless if it's a mess that he's inherited or one that he's created for himself This guy makes good pitches with the games on the line Gartner on the move He gets there and makes the play for the second out of the inning and no tag at second He'll head back there with two away now batter Number 20 riding forward now the Mariners cleanup hitter Daniel Vogel back three at bats for him in this one all ending with him going down on strikes He sat here it comes Working around this guy right here why not first base is open walk wouldn't be the worst thing in this spot. Here's the two oh three This is spot you like to be in as a good hitter runners in scoring position and count leverage in your favor Ready with the three and oh That one's right down the middle for a strike with the fastball Probably better that he let that pitch go anyway after seeing a lively fastball in the pitch before It's pretty hard to sit back enough on a well-thrown change up and to sit back on the change up And he did a good job to get the bat on that one After fouling off the second one I got a step out of the box adjust my batting gloves and tell myself. There's no chance. He's tripling up on that pitch And he'll strike out here yet a gig him to forget thus far for strikeouts One hit one left Ninth inning coming up all tied at one and one Wait a minute via beyond the mound to start the ninth inning and his job will be keeping the ballgame tied until the bottom half Dan All the villa at the plate Mike Tuckman. You'll go to work trying to do something about breaking this one one time Talk He's ready. Here's the first offering Here we go with inning number nine as the first pitch misses for ball one Pretty good pitch right there fastball in off the plate one of the things you want to do as a pitcher try to stand those hitters up And that pitch misses in the dirt and it's two and oh now Boy, that's one of the toughest pitches to lay off a hard-breaking ball at the back foot tough take on a terrific pitch Got himself a two-hole fastball there, but he couldn't connect two and one He knows full well. He's sitting on a hat-trip right here. All he's trying to do is avoid the golden sombrero A swing and a drive sent out toward the gap And as Yankees fans here on television quite frequently see Solo shot to right center as they've taken a one-run lead He was one swing at a bat that closer better get ready He's gonna be doing some work in the bottom half of this inning now Miguel Andujar He looks at a fastball that misses off the plate for ball one He's got a hit in three at bats to this point. It was wind up here comes the 1-0 And he chased one there as this is bounced to short rain didn't And a bit of a high throw that time but no problem over there at first as they record the out Up next for the Yankee The first thing Mike for Digging in Mike Ford one run in and one gone so far this inning First pitch of the at bat on its way There's the fastball that gets the lower part of the zone called for a strike Right-hander starts to loosen out in the bullpen now. That's in there and he's deep in the hole now 0 and 2 One run game here in the top of the ninth And here's a pitch inside and that got him Stepping in Kyle Higashiyoka one in one out again one on here in the inning from the stretch A bouncer to the left side The second for one return throw is in time How about that they do turn two and it gets him out of the inning And some dramatics here in the top of the ninth as this home run gives him the lead Last chance coming up for the Mariners two to one new york You're attentively Now with the same situation on tap they'll hand the ball over to a formidable force indeed The very hard throwing left-hander a rolled his Chapman All set for the bottom of the ninth now with the play We'll try to follow up the double in this last at bat with another big hit right here Well, he got a good pitch to hit last time up Looked for it up in the zone and didn't miss it. Those are the pitches you only get maybe once in a b Maybe once a game maybe once a week. So he's certainly capitalized on it last time And he lays off with one and two In a miss and that'll get a groan from the home supporters here one away Really good late fight on that slider right there. The best ones have that great action that just darts at the last minute They're so tough to get the bat on and when you've got that good slider going It's a great strikeout pitch the box now Tom Murphy as he'll take a cold strike here on a borderline pitch. It's strike one He's working on a one for three thus far. He's ready. Here's the oh one In the air out to straight away left Tuckman is there and quickly two are gone here and it's not looking good for the home nine Now batter the deputated hitter dumb Something will ya Stepping in dumb thompson williams. He steps in off a base hit in his last at bat. He's ready. Here's the first offering Hit hard down the left field line But this is foul near the seats I'm run at the plate the oh one And that misses one and one You know over the course of a full season you're gonna have some clunkers And this certainly looks like one by the look on the manager's face He's gonna probably call a meeting after this Fastball well outside Fans on their feet in a one-run ball game in the last of the ninth Hit back up the middle the may use got it off balance throw But he couldn't get enough on it so it'll be scored as an infield single now batter No left field. Hey, this game is close right here But i'll take you inside the mindset even if it was a blowout I know the team's down to their final out But you'll be hard pressed to ever find an offensive player give away an ab Nice infield single right there to keep the line moving Standing in austin noba He'll be looking for something you could drive into the gap and drive home that time run from first He swings through a fastball and doesn't catch up with it. It's oh and one Hey, if you're able to blow a first pitch fastball by a guy gotta believe that pitch is coming again right here Good pitches. This is swung on and missed and now they're down to perhaps their final strike of the evening Go to that well one more time. He's been laid on the first two And i don't know until he misses with a fastball Great tank right there, but the last thing you want to do is be called out on strikes to end the game Last chance for the mariners Close but it's not over yet. That's ball two Hey expect the challenge right here. Does not want to run the count full care down the right field line But this is going to wind up a foul ball Quick check on that tying run at first a dive, but he's back A runner on first with two away No, he's a They struck him out for route number three So that'll wrap things up here as they leave the possible tying runs stranded at first Well, that's just a great job of battling on the road They fought all the way to the end took the lead in the top of the ninth and secured the w in the bottom half That's a great team win close one tonight two to one the final score The new york yankees came through and it mattered in the ninth on the way to the win Tommy kingley gets the win in relief his second of the year Aroldis chaplain wraps it up for the save his 13th of the year So that's a wrap here tonight for mark dorosa dan, please act in hidey wattney. 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