Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop and tonight we're going top shelf with a great guest of voice You'll probably recognize Will Lyman. Well, how you doing? Great. Thanks. How are you dad just fabulous? Well, if you've got a question for will or for George and I Put it in the chat room in Facebook or in YouTube or wherever it is you're watching or send up a smoke signal and we'll get to that and We're gonna have a great time tonight. So stay tuned voiceover body shop right now From the outer reaches they came Bearing the knowledge of what it takes to properly record your voice over audio and Together from the center of the VO universe. They bring it to you now George Wittem the engineer to the VO stars of Virginia Tech grad with the skills to build set up and maintain The professional VO studios of the biggest names in VO today and you Dan Leonard the voiceover home studio master a professional voice down with the knowledge and experience to help you create a professional sounding home VO studio and Each week they allow you into their world bringing you talks with the biggest names in the voice of a world today Letting you ask your questions and giving you the latest information to make the most of your voice over business Welcome to voice over body shop Voice over body shop is brought to you by voice over essentials.com home of Harlan Hogan signature products source elements remote studio connections for everyone voice actor websites.com where your VO website isn't a pain in the butt VO heroes.com become a hero to your clients with a word-winning voice over training Jmc demos when quality matters and voiceover extra your daily resource for VO success Now live to drive from their super secret clubhouse and studio in Sherman Oaks, California Here are the guys Well, hello there. I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Wittem and this is voice over body shop or VO All righty Well, we're into 2021 and Trying a new system tonight to see if if this makes things a little bit easier if you were around last week or two weeks ago when Things just sort of fell off the face of the earth But 2021 is 2020 with more cowbell We need more cowbell Yeah Well, I had a fun weekend. I'm not gonna get into it too deeply but drink lots of water. Don't get a kidney stone If Dan becomes more and more unintelligible, you'll know why Yeah, he's on a few Pain killers. Yeah. Yeah, but I am feeling no pain. Fortunately. Good. Uh, yeah So, uh, if you've ever had a kidney stone, you know what I'm talking about if you haven't don't get one Yeah, uh, but we're here to talk about voice over and uh, all the cool stuff that goes along with that Now I'm going to introduce our guests, but you have to understand I've wanted to get him on for like 10 years. We've been doing this show for 10 years if you can believe that Uh, you know when the word podcast was just like like a what? Uh, and and I could actually show you on on the spreadsheet. I want to get will lineman on the show and George is like Okay And finally I'm on his website and I'm like, oh, I can just contact him He wrote back. So let let let me introduce him. Uh Let's see here. I know it's here somewhere Okay, all right Will lineman's an actor a voice actor uh Very accomplished at a lot of different things, but you would recognize him first depending if you watch pbs a lot Uh as the voice you usually hear when you watch front line This voice that just sort of grabs you and says i'm going to tell you the truth But probably more notably so for those of you watching football games He was the voice for the dosecky's The most interesting man in the world campaign. So let's welcome to voice over body shop Will lineman will welcome Thank you very much Danny Hey, will yeah joining us from boston, massachusetts. Uh, so Anyway, uh Welcome to the show. It's so great to have you on and uh I I have so many questions that I've always wanted to ask Uh, but first off what I usually ask people is Give us a little background on yourself.  Were you from originally and and what led you into doing voiceover work along with your acting? Well, I'm originally from vermont. Um, and I I came to boston in 1966 six um to go to boston university school fine arts um and study theater and uh, when I eventually got out of there after some hemming and hawing I I had decided that actually theater was what I wanted to do uh in my life and uh Um, but as we know, it's not a great way to make a living and uh my secondary thought was well if i'm going to do this I need an income stream of some sort um and uh Our waiting tables is really it's too much work I'm very strenuous Uh, so uh because you know people had told me I have a great voice. Uh, I I figured well, of course, that's solid. That's how I'm going to do it So, uh, I I started uh Taking my little tapes around uh on my little five inch reels, uh, which we were treasured back though in those days I'm dropping them off in studios and and uh ad agencies all over boston And I was doing, uh, you know a radio spot every couple of months that kind of thing um until uh Actually, I went away. I went away to to denver to do the opening season the inaugural season of the denver center theater for the arts we did um and we did uh Learned ladies we did, uh Midsummer nights dream and I did uh chock circle um And when I came back I've got a a call from my uh my friend and mentor j rose who is is now unfortunately no longer with us Uh my age much too young to die um But uh he called and said listen, I've got a uh a session with The boston globe they want to do four spots and uh, they asked for you. Can you come in? I said, yeah, yeah, I can come in and I went in and uh They it's before I even got in the in the booth. They said, where have you been? We've been looking for you We we we had this campaign planned around you and we couldn't find you somebody said you were out west Where are you and I said, yeah, I was at den denver and they said well, listen We've got these spots for the globe and and oh There's another thing that we want you to do uh next week It's like five spots for so and so and and can you are you going to be able to come in? Never mind. We'll talk about that later get get in the booth do these four four spots with glow and I and I and I went into the booth and I did the four spots and and Fortunately, I didn't screw them up And uh, so they I came out and they said, okay, so about next week And from from that moment on that was 1980 1980 April of 1980 something like that I I I stopped looking for work because people just called And it was like you're in the club And I and it really felt like a club at that point. It was uh, you're in or you're out And and I was in suddenly after after Eight years I was in It wasn't like an overnight success thing Well, it was an overnight success thing after eight years. Yeah after years, right? That's how it works with bands, right? They they try and try and then all of a sudden here they are. Yeah Yeah So I'm I'm always fascinated by the fact that the really great voice actors the ones who are really top drawer Especially when it comes to narrating audiobooks are Classically trained actors, uh, you know, I've we've we've had scott brick and and simon vance on the show and several others Yeah, they're they're I mean they got great voices, but they're amazing storytellers And uh, but they're also Classically trained shakesperian phil proctor as well has been on our show in the same way Uh What what really isn't involved in learning how to act that way because I think some people tend to forget if they're voice Actors that that's what they're doing. They're it's acting and I think a lot of people think no, I just have to have a good sounding voice Not so What is it that you that you you think you can you've really learned by getting that type of training? um You know, I studied for four years at fbu Uh in the in the theater program there um, but quite Quite honestly, I'm I'm I'm still learning how to do shakespeare. Uh, it's uh, it's it's it doesn't stop um, I I don't think I was particularly adept uh at 24 22 34 when I came out of college um um And and for a long time after that so Uh, it's it's it's training and it's uh, and it's and it's practice and it's It's growing up to for me it was and learning about who Who I was and really what my responsibility to being an actor Uh was about And that took uh kind of I'm I'm ashamed to say it took a long time for me um And I'm and I'm still working on parts of that that uh, um You know the the things that you you deal with as a as a human being uh as and somebody with You know with ego and uh self-regard, uh that Uh, you really have to get under control in order to be really good at it And you know as I say I'm I'm still I'm still struggling with that. I'm still working on that Well, you still do a lot of live theater though, right? Well, I used to prior to uh, you know, what? Then now there's no theater anywhere in the world I Theater on zoom really I'm sorry, it's nice. I appreciate it. Um, but uh, I'm not really interested in and in watching it. It's not theater. It's it's it's some other thing and You know, it's not It doesn't work for me doesn't work for me Yeah, I Recently tried to put together a reading of a new play uh for a friend of mine and uh, finally concluded that By the time we'd put all of this work and effort into making it happen Nobody was gonna want to watch it So it fits the purpose there Well, why don't you just wait until we can get people in a room together and and do what we're supposed to do with it I mean, that's you know, hey, there's there's an entire now nobody's producing anything now So anyway, so it's not like gotta get this up on us up on his feet Just wait, you know, there was a whole network a whole new Distribution model called quibi that went down I mean the amount of money that went into that platform Uh, it was it was a serious amount of money went into that platform George What what you actually can't do with all that money Good point good point.  I mean, I I I imagine it helped being in boston for starters, is that That was certainly a helpful factor I had done Actually a funny story.  It was a Editor actually there are a couple of bill anderson's but this was This is my friend bill anderson and he worked for pbs and uh, he was he was Uh, he was editing a nova called cobalt blues And it was about the world supply of cobalt and He said listen, uh Come on over. I'm actually the the the director of the program is going to be with us that Friday night I want you guys to meet And so I went and played poker with uh with um with bill and Ted and Ted asked me to narrate the the nova And I think that was one of the first things I did for pbs was this nova program and After that I did a few more and then I did uh, I did several episodes of eric severide's enterprise And then that went away and then I entered this competition to to narrate something called vietnam a television history and uh And I have a member the only thing I remember about about it Was that I was in contention with richard kiley And I said, oh well forget that That's And uh, and I got the job And we did 13 episodes of that and it was one all kinds of columbia p bodies and and uh everything else under the sun and uh When that was over, I got a call from david fanning Who was in his second year of frontline And said we were looking for because first year frontline All of the episodes were were narrated by the producers And um The journalists and he's decided he wanted a signature voice for the for the series And so he uh He called me and said Would you do it? I said, well, I don't know Of course, I said, yes, absolutely thrilled and uh So that's really how that happened. It's just kind of one One step after the other If you're just joining us our guest is will lineman the iconic voice of frontline on pbs and a lot of other stuff You know, it's you have this voice that It's instantly recognizable, which I think is really really important Uh, you know, it it just shows that I I guess that you've made it His job security is what that is Don't need much of a resume just talk. Oh, you're that guy That guy exactly You know, uh My wife always says why aren't you in the upfront credits for frontline? You should be it should be frontline with will lineman. I'm straight No, I don't do the kind of work that's involved in that Uh, my job is very specific and and uh, you know, uh Put me at the tail credits and and that's that's good because really People don't know will lineman They know that guy that that guy that guy from you know, that show That's that's that's what my voice means to them. Isn't that will lineman is that that guy that guy You said it. Yeah, well, you've been one of my voiceover heroes for a long time and that's Considerably what a narrow genre that is take that as high praise indeed So what what is what goes into the production of that show? I mean, it's it's Hard-hitting journalism work a lot of work not necessarily on my on on my part, but uh a lot of work. I'm I'm narrating a show uh that goes on uh Goes on Tuesday the 19th to you know, right? Today's easy Today is the 19th. No, no next sunday next sunday. I'm narrating a show that goes on the air the following tuesday And uh, that's uh, that's that's cutting it pretty close. Um Uh jim solvents third our mixer Extraordinary that's good as we're cut out for him to get that to get that out and on the air. Um, usually it's a bigger Stretch between my finishing up. My kirk always says one. He says i'm always glad when I see you because it means my job is almost done Because uh, you know by the time they get to putting a voice over on it, you know Everything's pretty much done. Yeah. What's what's the the the direction on on that voice? I mean, I mean you you get it that it's like, you know, you're not trying to put on a voice You're just being you but it you've got this seriousness to the To these you know to the the subject matter that just seems to to grip you What's the direction that you get to to achieve better? What are you what goes on in your mind to to try and achieve that? Well, for instance with mike, uh, Who's who's one of the most frequent producers there? It's just phenomenal the the work that he puts out um one I first started working with mike back when we were doing the Uh the films about a decade of destruction about the amazon rainforest back and I don't know when was that 90 91 92 something like that um You know now we'll we'll go in and we'll we'll you know and i'll watch Some sometimes the whole scratch of the show sometimes just uh five ten minutes of it The idea get the feeling get the the the milieu the atmosphere And I will say so what are what are we doing this week, you know?  No, you're back. Yeah, and we're back Technology we love it. Yeah Yeah, uh, so all right, so Clearly, I mean they found the right voice for this because it it it always seems to work just right when you know I haven't fired me yet. So I guess I it's always it's always a good thing. They couldn't replace you. They couldn't be done It would not be the same show as far as I'm concerned Now the other thing you're known for And I think probably far more people know this because let's face it not everybody watches pbs Because it's beer. That's right It's beer everybody drinks beer right and and and not and not not a not a brand of beer that was like really well known so this was You know a a a real breakout campaign for them But you were the voice behind the uh the most interesting man in the world commercials, which I thought were just incredibly brilliant, you know anytime they would come on you're just like All right, what's what are they gonna do with this guy at this time?  I just read for they sent it to me and I read for it and uh um actually the audition was I think there were three pages of those one liners And I just read them read them off one after the other and and uh And I hired me You've you've got about about 500 people out there listening to this now going You know, but it was it's because I'm so brilliant and so great There you go. There you go Well, it was I think the the deadpan nature of it just just so so hit it so good Yeah, it was really clever. It was it's a great great great campaign.  It was just Straight down like like it was an actual documentary, which is I guess He isn't just way care about Yeah, yeah, I've got it. I've got it ready to play. Can I play just a little tiny bit? Just the audio the police often question him just because they find him interesting His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man's entire body His blood smells like cologne He is the most interesting man in the world The writing is freaking brilliant, of course, I was in New Orleans, uh, uh one Halloween and uh And who are you going to go as I saw?  I mean, what was the agency with that? um Now you asked me of course never worked for them again But the checks cleared and that's really all that matters. Well, they used to Oh What was their name for heaven's sake Well now the letters or four letters. That's why you're not working for us again. You can't even remember who we were I I think we would say more about names don't Stick with me. Anyway Once again, we're talking with will lineman if you have a question for will lineman Put it in the facebook chat room and jeff holman is hiding back there somewhere Taking down all these questions and we'll be relaying them to us And we will relay them to will and will will answer them whether he answers them honestly or not that's That's a good caveat. Yeah, yeah um Do you have a home studio? I have a booth Dan. I have a booth It's about this big It's your head in there No, it has a door and it has a chair and that's but it's a it's a it's a converted closet basically I didn't want to walk too far To get to it. So I had a closet in my office and I said I can make a booth out of that So we did it's very small and I kind of I said hunched over like this to read This is the only place that sounds good is right in this corner right I love letting people hear that on the show we have amazing talent on our show all the time And there's I think people are shocked half the time when some of them tell you Yeah, I'm in my closet in my boxer shorts I have a picture of me. I was My wife and I were vacationing in in france and uh, I had you know I don't remember whether it was front line or or goseckis or whoever was called and needed something right away and I have a picture of me with my with my Headphones my harlan hogan headphones by the way. Oh, yeah harlan and my and my uh blue yeti in this The closet of this house that I was rented in renting with the guy's uh Wet suits his neoprene wet suits hanging all over the place To work very well pretty good acoustic did it work? Okay. Yeah. Yeah Nobody knew Nobody knew where I was that's great. Yeah, well as we like to tell people nobody needs to see how the sausage is made Why don't they hear it and it sounds good? How do you um, how not you're working from home? That's extensively for everything. How are they doing? Are they just giving you a script and you read it wild and you just send in files or are they Remote recording you mostly I just do the short stuff from home Uh promos, um, you know, there's a couple of you know industrial things that I do every now and then I used to do a ton of that stuff and Not so much anymore I don't know whether it's because they don't hire me or because they're not doing them. I don't know but uh and occasional I don't think I'm trying to think if I've done. Oh, yeah, I have done some advertising from the booth um, most people want to go somewhere though, um, of course I haven't had There has been much business in the last 10 months quite frankly Uh, you haven't had to do much commercial work from your your home closet setup. I have done some. Yeah I think uh probably turbo tax was the last thing I did Yeah, no uh The the front line to do a full narration. I go over to gbh to do it still I mean, there's nobody in a building. There's me and a and a janitor and a guy at the front desk and uh The engineer and we're in And the producers are on zoom so yeah That's a much more comfortable setup to do an hour's session Yeah Now it's it's a whole new world out there Once again, we're talking with will lineman here on the voiceover body shop If you got a question for him throw it in the facebook chat room and we will get that question to him But right now we're gonna take a quick commercial break and we'll be right back with will right after those stay soon Yep, this is v obs proven anybody can have a show these days Well, hello there I bet you weren't expecting to hear some big voice to announce their guy on your new orientation training for snapchat. Were you? 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He narrated of course the pbs front line episode I narrated the audiobook and it was about the nfl's concussion crisis Um, you hear a lot about audiobooks that it's an awful lot of work And not a lot of money And when I hear that I think to myself man, I wish I could help that person understand That yeah, not everybody makes a ton of dough in audiobooks, but you won't do yourself any favors if you just Try things out see what sticks and you don't get proper training and put in a good system a good production flow I teach a course called the acx master class and we're about to launch our winter 2021 series We've got a series of three free videos about this very thing How much opportunity there is and sometimes how little money there is in return and how to fix that Go to acx masterclass.com. That's acx masterclass.com Watch the videos. We'll open up registration for the acx masterclass real soon And we'll give you a discount as well for watching v obs acx masterclass.com. 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We're talking with will lineman joining us from boston ma as they used to say on car talk uh, and we we were talking about Your home studio and the equipment you use we didn't quite get there What microphone do you use or does it really matter? Uh Well, it only matters uh in the sense that uh front line really uh Requires to neumann So I have a tlm Uh, wow, what is it? 103 probably 102 103. What is it? Yeah, well, they have both Yeah, the 102 is a little one and the 102 or three is a bigger one. I guess it's the 103. Yeah, um, but it uh For for voice work it absolutely direct that, you know Replicates the the studio model So it's great for me. Um, but no, I've used I I've used a blue yeti in the back of my toyota You're not alone. Yeah And Yeah, so no the microphone for the most part does not matter I've even used the blue yeti for for front line and they don't they don't say who do you use them? As long as you use it right and put in a dead space it It works and all that bad. Yeah, you get it. You get it positioned, right? You get enough cushions in the car It's like It works it works. Uh, I I record directly in well not directly. I go through uh, uh an onyx This Jack or something like that Is it called a blackjack? No, it's it's actually a little eight track mix board. Oh, yeah And I mixer. Yeah. Oh, yeah, very good. I use I use like, you know 12 percent of its of its capacity. I'm sure Um, and that goes into uh, uh an ancient iMac And I use audacity There you go.  That's all you need Top guy in the biz and he's using audacity because it's free and free free Which is important to many voice actors who are living on Use the the uh Oh my gosh, well the Not pro tools. Yeah pro tools with one of their one with one of their interfaces Yeah drove me absolutely bonkers You know with what no you don't have the right thing for this and I know you have to get this and that's a subscription That'll cost you that and it's like every month max. Oh it's just so I forgot that I got I got a different interface and here's audacity I have uh, I have uh source connect and I'm good to go Yeah, all the All right for a phone patch. I use skype I run skype through the board It's a phone patch You see now everybody He's explaining to you that this is reality and it's not so much the gear. It's how you use it Yeah, that's right. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we got a few questions here from our vast audience First one is from jim mc nicolas. You want to get that george? Sure, uh jim asks, um Your breakout role as narrator of vietnam A television history.  Well jim At being around the right people uh being in the right place the right time uh having having done Having been prepared when when the situation arose Before before I did that I had been doing I I made my living off of industrial narrations, you know Talking about how cinder blocks are made talking about how the optical weft reader on the the mechanical looms were, you know operated and Making sense of all this stuff trying to make it Even even medical stuff that I didn't have the first clue as to what it was But basically reading syntax Uh, and if there was something that I didn't understand And you say does this mean this or does it mean this? um And then and then making that distinction in the read Um, I've been doing that for years before before I Hit it off with pbs. Uh, so You learn how to do it you learn how to make sense out of something Uh, you learn how to you learn how to put a real person in front of you And uh and speak to that person um I did a A show on the o-star race the observer single-handed transatlantic race Which this guy had he mounted Eight millimeter cameras on the transoms of these One these single-handed vessels that were racing across the atlantic from england to the us And he gave each of them, uh You know cassettes that they'd slap into them and probably you know eight millimeters They're probably like 12 minute cassettes or something like that um and uh and also handheld cameras uh so that they could you know Shoot panoramic or they could shoot turn around shoot themselves or walk up the transom hit the button and in a talk to the camera um It was quite a harrowing film actually remarkable film But when I was recording it and I just come from all these Industrial reads and so on and so forth. He says yeah, what I what I what I really want to hear is somebody that's just sitting on the couch next to me and Telling me the things that I need to know in order to understand what's on on the screen Just giving me whatever background I need to say this is right So are you sitting on the couch next to somebody and saying this is what's going on here? And this is this is what's happening that he he didn't know that blah blah blah You know and uh, it was a very very personal approach That taught me a great deal um Good direction Uh, not always you don't always get that good direction. Really? No, but when you do that's direction at all quite frankly Uh producers don't know how to direct Sorry We won't tell anybody Any other person I learned a lot from was bud greenspan who was the Olympic filmmaker right right who who taught me how to level it out Uh, you don't always want to do that, but it was the style of his film and it was the style I learned from him Uh, which is is still very useful. You don't need a lot of excitement in your work. It doesn't dive up and down It's just like level it right out.  Yeah I I once read now that peter coyote Doesn't pre-read his copy Which to me was like no How could he possibly do I'm going to assume that you've probably pre-read your copy before you do this stuff Even though as as you were saying you've got a tight turnaround with something on front line or something like that um, I Let's see I don't always read every the entire script Um, very often I will I will listen to the scratch track um but We have enough I work fast enough and we have enough time allotted in the studio for me to To be able to read. I'm a I'm a good reader. I read ahead As I read When I'm speaking These words I'm looking at the next ones So I know I don't know I just have a an eighth sense of how the sentence is going and if I and if I If I read it wrong if I say, oh that didn't go where I thought it was going to go I just stopped and do it again. It's no big deal. Right um and Another thing that I might Just offer to anybody who's interested uh if you If you make a mistake in the studio Don't apologize and don't say oh, I'm sorry. Can we can I do that again? So they have to Reslate and do the whole thing. It's just just do it.  I don't I didn't get that. I Always do that. I'm sorry Just just do the job. Just read it. Just just go back and do it right But anyway, that's that's what we can do there and it doesn't Doesn't take any time If I didn't get it right the first time just do it again Yeah, I mean most of the time if I'm reading and I'm like, well, that's not right Just stop and you just keep going. I mean I never hit stop. It's just like just edit it out Don't worry about it. Stop button. I didn't say That's right. Uh question from jv martin When you started out in narration, who were your inspirations? um When I was a when I was a kid, uh, I had a a subscription to the colombia record children's record club of the month or something like that and uh, there was a Guy now once again name as soon as I start thinking about it. It disappeared norman norman norman that's terrible Wonderful wonderful narrator Was was the man on most of these records And uh, I just loved his voice. I loved his storytelling. I loved uh, loved to listen to him and I actually met him at a commercial audition You know like 25 years later He still sounded exactly the same. It's great um So there was that and uh I didn't really have anybody that I was Trying to sound like I didn't I didn't really know quite frankly. Uh, I wasn't I wasn't a follower of of uh The voiceover people, uh, didn't really know much about the game at all Um, there were a lot of people that helped me. Uh, I mentioned j rose. All right, maybe that's before we started but uh Um, j rose a sound brilliant brilliant sound engineer No longer with us. Unfortunately um who Really kind of helped me Figure out How to How to do a radio spot how to you know, what was important about what the the the flow of it the different parts of it the intro the the the meat and the cell and And Really helped me through a pretty pretty raw time as a as a young voiceover guy Very patient with me So there were there were people that helped me. Um, but I I didn't have a I didn't have a I didn't have an idle. I didn't have a voiceover idle Hmm, I had you No I I think our career is probably paralleled each other a whole I used to be a booth announcer at the pbs station in buffalo. So yeah I you know, listen that one of the your advertiser there who was who was talking about uh audio books Talking about you denial Which is uh He did the audiobook for it. I guess I didn't even know it was an audiobook for it Um, but we did that on front line. We did leave denial on front line. It made me, uh, made me swear off football actually True, I haven't watched football since Really? Really? Oh getting playoffs this week, especially with the bill of games big games that I've been tempted but, uh I just you know, I I fell out of love with the nfl after that Yeah, that'll do it. This is an insupportable organization that they're not honest. They're not They're stonewalling to her, you know, you know Was that was that norman you're referring to from the columbia record? Was that was that norman rose? Yes. Yes. Thank you. I mean, I don't know that Norman rose. Yes Good one. Good one, george. I'd like to fill in the gaps when I can Um, thank you Hey, I'm I'm I'm I have the same gene I have my dad's gene of name drop name law not trying dropping names in the right way dropping names out the back of your head I have that I have that jv By the way, also a great voice actor himself and narrator too He has a couple questions. I can see why Um regarding frontline Are you a constant consumer of national news so that you'll know the story before you even need to tell it? uh Hey jv I Yet lately I've been uh, I've been sitting at the breakfast table for a good two hours with The times and the and the boston globe and and I come upstairs and read the washington post um on the online uh Not cover to cover unless I'm not that fast a reader, but uh Uh, it's been it's been pretty intense lately. I have to say uh, normally Not so much. I used to I used to come down and pick up the sports pages That was the first thing I'd read and then maybe I'd read a little news now. I I didn't even look at the sports pages it's like front page of both papers first and then go inside that's uh Yeah, it's a little exhausting and a little stressful I keep saying I gotta stop doing that but uh We're all doing it. Yeah In bed, but it's now it's in bed with an iphone, you know reading that I try not to do that. I don't do that. I don't take my I don't take I leave my iphone in the bathroom It's a good idea. It's a good idea.  I won't get Rona from it, you know, yeah, it cleans the rona and charges at the same time or something Yeah, another one from jv roll last last one. He has when the day comes you decide to hang them up Uh, is there a voice acting genre that you will miss the most? um If yeah, it would be frontline That would be working with that team. Um, they they just Such great people to work with and and so brilliant at what they do And it's it's such a sense of fulfillment to know You know, there were there were years when Maybe I hadn't done anything You know, I hadn't done a theater piece or hadn't done anything that I thought was worthwhile And yet I had done a year's worth of frontline another season of frontline and that made me feel good and uh And I I don't have any plans to hang up on frontline, you know, I'll wait for frontline to hang up on me, but uh No, I Why why stop why stop I enjoy what I'm doing absolutely Absolutely, so same to you jv keep it up. Yeah Uh Well, it has been a pleasure to have you on the show. I've been Looking forward to this for 10 years Now my life is complete Well, you know as someone who really appreciates Good voice over somebody who you know And I listen and I know the voices and I know the names Who that person you know who that person is But will lineman's always more of the ones it's always at the top of my head So I really appreciate you you're joining us and and parting some wisdom on us and telling us your story and Keep doing what you're doing, man. Well, thank you. I appreciate your kind words and uh, I will do my best Thank you Alrighty, we'll lineman everybody. All right. We'll be right back to wrap things up right after this You're watching v obs dot tv. 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I got it ready So I thanks again source elements and uh, we'll be right back to wrap it up Yeah, hi, this is carlo cellos rocky the voice of rocko and you're watching voiceover body shop And we're back Great meeting will lineman. I've always wanted to do that and now I have that was uh fantastic Yeah, no, he was great and some great some great stories. Uh, well, you know Next week on this show It'll be tech talk number 49 49 and we're going to be approaching 50 as we approach our 10th anniversary of doing voiceover body shop and And and e-wabs. So I think one of the things we want if there's a favorite moment of yours No, I know I know we have a lot of new viewers Uh, you know to the show in the last two years. I mean, we the audience is tripled because face it. We're just that damn good um And extremely modest about it and very honest, uh Yeah, uh, yeah, what else is there to watch except like I say Turkish soap operas But if you there's a favorite moment you have Write into us at the guys at v obs dot tv And say hey, what about this one? What about that one? There are some great moments You can imagine if after 10 years doing the show we've got some great stuff But if there's something you'd like to see again, we're going to put together A compilation of the greatest moments of voiceover body shop Over the last 10 years as we prepare for the next 10 years And uh, you know by the time we do 20 years of this george Then the fact that i'll be well into my 70s Uh, it will be after 20 years people will still want to know what's the best mic for voiceover Absolutely without question um Send us in send those in but uh next week we've got tech talk number 48 And then the following week february 1st The return of our good friend debbie dairy berry The voice of debbie neutron and all sorts of other stuff and a great singer and uh, you know And just an all-round super person a great coin size powerhouse. Yeah, she really Yeah, but yeah, I think she comes up to about my knee Who are our donors of the week? Well, we've got those familiar names. I've read so many times some of them.  Hey, Graham Sonia mobly michelle blinker christopher epperson sarah borges and philips appear and uh, those names are familiar because they're all probably subscribers So when you go to donate you can click the donate button You can choose to just drop a little money in there one time or you can just subscribe for a very small amount If you want and we'll just keep reading your name Yeah, who knows how someone's gonna hear about you and want to hire you I heard your name on vio. I don't I don't know if anybody's actually ever said that that's actually gotten them a gig ever But you know it couldn't hurt. Good night. Good night um Let's see. What else? We have a mailing list by the way And I'm sure lots of you watching the show live because you got the notification that we had will lineman on tonight And that oh, I got to watch that So you get you get an advanced view and a very personal Message from us and saying hey We want you to watch our show Email is still a thing, right? I think we're so overwhelmed with notifications and social media is this and that that sometimes just looking at an email Box is the best way to I know to be informed and sometimes it's just worth it to see the promos I put together for that. So they are entertaining I I work very hard on those. Um Let's see. We need to thank our sponsors because without them Well, we'd just be a sponsor of the show and probably would have lasted a year not 10 Like harlan hogan's voice over essentials voice over extra uh Source elements vio heroes.com voice actor websites.com and jmc demos Uh, gotta thank jeff holman for getting those questions together for us tonight in the chat room always. Thanks to him our our technical director sue merlino who picked up a new system and It was darn near the weekend Yo Over the weekend we switched to a whole new system. I know and it and it works And it's making things a lot easier especially for me today because i'm i'm not exactly sure what day it is but uh Thanks to her for for getting that done and lee penny for being lee penny. Well, that's going to do it for us We're going to re-rack it and get ready for tech talk. Stay tuned for that Make sure you write your questions in because we want to answer your questions Uh, but really it's most important to understand that when it comes to voice over audio If it sounds good It is good I'm dan lettered and i'm george woodham. And this is voice over adishah or vio b