Everybody, today we are debating whether or not evolution is racist and we are starting right now. Ladies and gentlemen, thrilled to have you here for another epic debate. This is going to be a fun one, folks. It's going to be a wild one. It's a little bit controversial. That's what I've heard. But want to let you know, if it's your first time here, consider hitting that subscribe button as you've got a lot of debates coming up. So for example, you'll see on the bottom right of your screen, Matt Dillahunty will be here in less than a week to take on Randall Rouser. And each of them will have a teammate in that tag team debate. So it should be a lot of fun. And that's on whether or not there's sufficient reason to believe in God. For tonight, it's going to be a lot of fun. It's a tag team match. So both sides, each side will get 12 minutes that they can split amongst each other to make their opening statements. And then we'll go right into open conversation. So with that, obviously, as usual, the affirmative will be going first. So that means G-Man and John, who you see pictured on your left, will be going first. And following that, very excited that we will have then Ned and newcomer Matthew, who are but I got to let you know folks, by the way, really interesting for this debate that negation of P and G-Man, they go back to like the olden days of YouTube back when like Nephilim Free and Potholer, like these, this is like old school, which is a really interesting history they have. But also, do I understand right, gentlemen? Is it true, Matthew, that you also were back from the olden days of debate on YouTube? Oh, I can't quite hear you. Let's let me just quick check we've got you coming through on Zoom. No, that's a sorry, that's a rookie mistake. I forgot that my mic was muted. Yes, I was very active, I would say between 2010 and 2014. Really cool. Awesome. Well, we are thrilled to have all four of you guys here. This is going to be a lot of fun and want to let you know they are linked in the description folks. So with that, we're going to jump into this pretty quick. If you have a question, feel free to fire it into the old live chat. And if you tag me with at modern day debate, it makes it easier for me to be sure I've got every single question in that list. Super Chat is also an option. If you do a Super Chat, you can both ask a question or if you want to leave a comment toward one of the speakers, you can, to which they, of course, get a chance to respond to. And also with Super Chats, it's going to push your question or comment to the top of the list for the Q&A. So with that, very excited, we are going to jump right into this. And so G-Man and John, the floor is all yours for your opening statement. Thanks for being here. All right, cool. So I guess I'll go first. Okay, cool. So hello, everyone. Welcome to modern day debate. And today we're going to be debating on whether or not this evolution every theory is actually racism or not. And I believe that it is. It definitely promotes it and it definitely gives people a justification for being racist. As many of you probably already know, and if you don't know, I don't believe evolution is actual science. I believe that evolution is a philosophy. I believe that you can prove variations within the kinds, but you cannot prove that we share a common ancestor with an animal. And that's going to be very important moving forward, all right? But as a philosophy, evolution supports racism. And if you don't believe me, go read The Origin of Species. Actually, that's not the real title. It's called The Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection or the Preservation of Favored Races in the Struggle for Life. Stephen J. Bull said, by a biological argument for racism may have been common before 1850, but they increased by the orders of the magnitude following the acceptance of evolutionary theory. This is a direct quote from the Descent of Man, ladies and gents, written by Mr. Charles Darwin himself. At some future period, not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilized races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races. I wonder who they're talking about with that. Throughout the world, at the same time, the anthropomorphous apes will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest allies will be then the wider for it. For it will intervene between man in a more civilized state as we may hope even than the Caucasian and some apes as low as the Babu instead of a now between the Negro and the Australian aborigine and the aborigine and the guerrilla. This is from the Descent of Man. Now there was a supporter, Charles Darwin, oh and by the way, in case you don't know what this is saying, is basically saying the Australian is more evolved than the savage, the black man. So let me also show you something here that is in the origin of species. Thus from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely the production of higher animals directly follows as the origin of species page 243. The standard of the intelligence of the Negro is similar to that of the 11-year-old youth of the species Homo-Stadians. You want to know who said this? It was Henry Fairbill Osborn and this was a supporter of evolution. Charles Kinsley said this, the black people of Australia, exactly the same races as the African Negro, cannot take in the gospel. This guy was a priest. All attempts to bring them to a knowledge of the true God have as yet failed utterly.  Again, this is Charles Kinsley and he was a supporter of Darwinism. I'm going to stop here because I don't got that much time, but I will say this evolution promotes the idea that there is a race that is more involved in another one. This is why we had slavery here in the United States. I want to show you something here regarding genics and then I'm going to give it to J.Govs. A natural selection says this ladies and gents, natural selection is the theory that only the strong survive. For example, animals that can outrun their predators, live the past on their speedy genes to the next generation. Listen to what Eugenics says ladies and gents, the study of how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of heritable characteristics regarding as being desirable. In other words, you're going to take two perfect human beings and they're going to have sex and they're going to get offspring and that offspring is going to be something that's desirable. But you don't want to have someone who's superior getting together with somebody who's not superior in producing offspring. Evolution teaches that only the strong survives and their form of natural selection that they're teaching with their social Darwinism is Eugenics. This stuff was practiced by Adolf Hitler. This is practiced by many evolutionists today. My opponents can laugh, they can giggle, they can do everything that they want. We have the transatlantic slave trade. We have what happened to the Aborigines. We have the Holocaust and we have a bunch of other things to look at to prove that evolution and not religion directly affected all of that. But I promise you this ladies and gents, they're going to try to find a way to say how religion affected it and not evolution. Get it J-Dubbs. I appreciate the open statement by my tag team partner and I want to say thank you to James for having me and of course our, you know, our opponents.  He's coming at it from a point of view from, I guess, what people interpreted as and then I guess how they go on to subscribe it in their lives. I like to talk about it from a different point of view because evolution then goes on to say, you know, certain characteristic traits.  I was looking in today about some of the, you know, different racial categories and it seems to be that a lot of people used to believe, I don't know if this is a common belief today, but I would like to explore it, that different skull size influences the shape of a brain, how much intelligence you had and a lot of people would say, I was reading along that Africans had smaller brains, they had smaller skulls, they couldn't adapt, they couldn't, all this other stuff. So I like to hear it from that point, evolution in itself, that it's people are evolving into different races, into different categories, which have different traits that one may believe is better and worse than another. I guess you could say it's just a personal choice, I guess it's already better than low IQ. I guess you could make that argument, running not as fast as whatever the case may be, we could talk about it better if you want, but I really want to stick with the actual topic of the discussion and that is that evolution in itself, different races, different categories of people, and these different categories of people have superior traits over superior traits. I want to stick with that. Thank you so much. Thanks so much. I think that we have a little bit of a connection problem, and it should get better in just a moment. So we're going to switch it over to those who are arguing tonight, namely Ned and Matthew, taking the negation. So thanks so much gentlemen for being here. The floor is all yours. Can you hear me guys? You go first. Okay, Matthew, I guess that's the worst road because apparently somebody was wrong. Oh, the lag is a little rough. Testing, testing. I'm getting an unstable check check. Everybody hear me all right? How about mine? Can you hear me okay? I can hear you. Can you hear me? Matthew? Now you're picking me. I can hear you. I can hear you. Yes. James, can you hear us okay? Yes, I can hear you. You're frozen, but I think that's OK. We'll just move on. Well, I mean, I guess Matthew was screwed because somebody in 1859 titled a book in a way that I'll go ahead and turn down my bandwidth, I guess, or turn off the, would it help if I turn?  I'll just try to go try to hit me if it's you can't hear me. OK. Basically, well, again, we're screwed because somebody in 1859 dropped the title. Guys, I mean, James, are we OK or should I stop? I think I can hear you. Yeah, I think they're ready for you. Can you hear me?  You may be muted. Definitely not muted. OK. And if you can, I can hear you, but they're saying in the chat I was anyway, I'll go ahead. It doesn't matter. I mean, we can get to this anyway. But again, just in case anybody didn't hear, you made a stop broadcasting the video. I think it's OK to if we all leave our cameras off for now and it should come back shortly. I'll just stop video and then that way hopefully that'll make it better. OK.  You want me to go first or do you want to go first? I don't care. It doesn't either way. It doesn't matter. I mean, but I'll let me because I'm going to be fast with it. Maybe you can have the majority of the time. The problem here is that, well, I can't say problem because there's there's too many to count, but I'll go through the quickest things first. One, there's there's a difference between how people feel about a scientific theory, how it manifests in society, and how it's used in science, how it describes something that happens in nature, how people feel about it, how it affects culture is one thing. What it actually is in science is another. That's something that's being that's actually a logical fallacy of false equivocation. But the real problem here is that the genetic fallacy is what all of this is being based on. We seem to be obfuscating the entirety of biology in favor of the beliefs of one person who studied biology.  A species can change over time to survive through natural selection. And what's the last that? Genetic mutations and genetic drift. That is something that occurs in science that has nothing to do with anything that Charles Darwin believed. It has nothing to do with how people feel about eugenics or social Darwinism. Anything that people do in society and beliefs that they hold is completely separate. So whether or not something actually occurs in science and has been occurring since before humans were even on Earth, that can't be racist if there are no races because it was happening before people were people. So that is the biggest problem here. One of the first things that G-Man said was that evolution is a philosophy which is incorrect. Philosophy has to do with thinking about things, not studying them with the scientific method. It's not the same thing. Now, how it manifests in society is completely different, again, from the science. If you're talking about how people think about science, but not the science, then you are mixing things up. I can only hope not in a deliberate attempt to confuse people. Also that evolution is racism, which obviously is ridiculous, so I'm not even going to bother responding to that. Dawkins noted, or not Dawkins, Darwin noted something happening in nature and wrote about it in his own way, wrote his own book, noticing something. And let's just say, as the opposition, luckily for me, since my name is Steele, makes me sound awesome, the opposite of a strawman argument is a steelman argument. Let's say that Darwin was a racist through and through, and he hated people of different races. Let's just say that's true. That doesn't have anything to do with whether or not evolution is the case in biology, nothing. So we can observe what's happening in science and use the theory to show that it's the case, modify it when necessary, as happened with punctuated equilibrium a few decades ago and adjust it so that it's the best explanation without ever having anything to do with racism, with how people feel about how evolution could be used to control human development in our society. How people want to use it, such as in eugenics.  That's really all I need to say, other than I would like to address what John said about determining what is a better or a superior trait. Nature is what is changing. Nature is determining through natural selection and mutation what survives and what does not. Nature doesn't value things because valuing is something that a person with a mind does. Nature doesn't have a mind, therefore nature can't value something, therefore there is no better. There is only that which develops and survives and that which doesn't. We apply the values when we observe that. So that just doesn't have anything to do with anything. One last thing I have to add and then I'll kick it back over to Ned. I believe the G-Man, oh happy birthday by the way, Gary. I believe the G-Man said that Darwinism, evolution is why we had slavery in the United States. Darwin only lived in the 1800s and slavery's been around since 1500s, 1600s. So that's nonsense like everything else I've heard. Anyway, that's all I have. All I'm gonna say is that just because someone doesn't understand a book doesn't make it racist.  I mean, I'm sorry, but you guys know me. I'm usually pretty level-headed. I don't laugh and I don't ridicule, but wow, wow, motherfucking, wow. I don't even know where to start. You know, and unlike, you know, G-Man said that we're gonna push this back on religion. No, I mean, he went from square one and completely chumped off topic, trying to bring Darwin's beliefs into evolution. It's a scientific theory. It has nothing to do with the person who posed it or their beliefs. A theory is either validated or invalidated by the scientific method and the testing that follows. Now, again, I don't even know where to go with this. If you wanna go to eugenics, well, yeah, that's not Darwin. Darwin never taught eugenics. It was literally his cousin, Francis Galton, and again, as irrelevant as this is. Yeah, he was a Christian. In fact, in the first three centuries of the 19th century, most enthusiastic components of eugenics were in the United States, and they were Christian evangelicals.   It has nothing to do with it. But again, dealing with the level of intellect that we're talking here. And John, you seem very rational, so I'd love to talk to you about this because I think you've got something to bring. But, gee, man, you really need to learn when you come into a debate and you choose the topic, maybe actually understand how to flip and stay on topic. I mean, I don't know what else to say. I wanna concede the rest of the time because the cross on this is gonna be entertaining to say the least. You got it. We will jump into the conversation mode. So appreciate everybody being here tonight. It's always fun and we are in for a wild one, folks. Wanna let you know, if you see the studio flashing colors, don't worry, nothing's wrong. If it's flashing green, that means somebody new has subscribed and you'll see in green letters on the bottom middle of the screen, it'll say who it was. And then also if it flashes red, that's just from a super chat coming through, which again, in red letters, will show in the middle bottom of the screen. So before we jump right into the open conversation, one last thing, happy birthday to you, man, okay. Okay, hold on, happy birthday to you, man, okay. It's all yours. Yeah, happy birthday to you, man. Okay, so I'm gonna go first, though, since I don't understand this topic in a right now, I just wanna go first. Can we get to it? Okay, cool. So negation to P, I don't understand the topic of racism negation to P. You wanna say that again? Well, wait a second.  But that's not the topic again of it. Is evolution is racist? What do you mean it's not the topic? It was the topic. Or does evolution, or does evolution, or does evolution, no, you don't know the topic. You didn't understand what we were doing before the show.  You're not ready for this and I can tell. But you saying I'm not on topic. Well, let me ask you a question. Do you, negation to P and map to steel, believe your apes? Yes or no? I believe we are descended from apes. Yes we do. Let me read something to you, negation to P. You're an educator, right, negation to P. Yes, that's my job. I'm a professional educator of 25 plus years. And this is from Charles Kinsley. And I'm gonna be quoting a lot of evolutionists today. All right, listen to me very carefully since you believe you're eight. All right, and then tell me whether or not you think I know the topic or not. It says, and I quote, okay, I am haunted by the human chimpanzees. I saw along that 100 miles of horrible country to see white chimpanzees in a dreadful, I'm sorry, it's dreadful. If they were black, I'm sorry, if they were black, one would not feel it so much. But their skins, except were tanned by exposure are as whites as ours. This is the rec quote from Charles Kinsley. And if you wanna know what the reference is in 1860, Kinsley wrote a letter to his wife after visiting Ireland where the potato famine had just killed one million people in the country of eight million. All right, why would he refer to white people as being white chimpanzees and then blacks as being black chimpanzees?  Could you please explain this to me? Break it down for me.  And I can explain, but... Okay. Tell me this, you believe you're an ape, right? Well, you allow someone else to talk. We'll talk about the slides on that later, okay?  G-Man, if we can kick it back over to our other guests. So we'll give you a chance to respond and I promise we'll come right back to you, G-Man and John. All right, gotcha. Kinsley's opinion on racists and what specific ape family that we came from has nothing to do with the theory of evolution. G-Man, you seem to be completely unaware that tried to marry an individual's opinion to a scientific theory is absolutely ridiculous. So if Kinsley was wrong or if Kinsley was right, depending on what the progression of the apes was, black, white, green doesn't matter. Evolution stands independent of that belief. Again, all you're doing by stating this is doubling down and showing that you have no understanding of the scientific method theory. Okay, so there's two things I wanna say about that. Number one, I mentioned in my opening statement, negation of P, that number one, evolution ain't science. And I can prove that with one question, sir. And I will a little bit later, not yet. I want you to keep telling everybody the science first. Okay, so that's number one. Number two, I'm talking about it as a philosophy, which is proof you did not listen to the opening statement. We're gonna have a lot of fun with you when we review this later, because you don't listen, all right? We're looking at this as a philosophy. And atheists or evolutionists or biological evolutionists don't own this theory. There are various other belief systems out there that uses the theory of evolution in various different ways. And if you was educated, you would actually know this. And since you wanna keep calling evolution science before this debate is over, I want you, sir, to keep showing me, I'm sorry, I want you to show me how you get new amatomical features from mutations, since you wanna talk about it as a science. I also would like for you to tell me why they killed these aborigines and lied and said that these were transitional fossils to prove that evolution is true from a scientific perspective. If you cannot do that, we'll get back on the philosophy part. History has shown anyone who supports that theory is a racist.   Okay, and that natural selection has didn't have nothing to do with this bearing. I can show you the definition. And the next time I go on the screen share it to show you that you don't know nothing about it. Okay. Switching back over. Is that to me or is that to Matthew?  What I said negation to be irrational.  What you don't understand. What Matthew, go ahead Matthew. I'll let you play with this one. All right, cause I think that it's, I think that it's only fair that since there are four people here that we switch back and forth and let everyone have a chance. So I'm just gonna say something really quickly and then kick it over to John so that we can all go back and forth. Otherwise, we may as well have the debate between two people instead of four since it's with four that we'll make it with four. What I said, I mean, deal with what I said. I've already annihilated what you said. Hold on, we do have to give out what you said. I don't think he's done quite yet, G-man. He's been, I think maybe if we give him maybe one or two more minutes. He's not answering the question. You can point that out after though. Okay, the question was answered but unfortunately I was answering it at about a ninth grade level and you want me to answer it at a second grade level. That's the problem and I can try that. That's why I made all these handy dandy little index cards. Every one of these is a logical fallacy and I've been trying to hold them up every time you employed a logical fallacy to help you, but I will be happy to repeat any part of the annihilation of your point that I already did in my opening statement but if there's some aspect of this that you still don't understand then I'll be happy to help. So I want you to address what I read out of the dissent from him and what I read out of the origin of speech you have not addressed even one. Okay, you've got to give him a chance to though. Matthew. I can do that. I can reply exactly to that just one second, Negation. What was said, let's again, I'm gonna repeat myself and steel man, everything that any sort of editorial, op-ed, information, commentary, anything that was said in the origin of the species by Charles Darwin. Let's say everything that he said was racist. Again, that's, I'm steel manning and saying that you're, I'm actually answering the question. Let's say that- You have to answer the question. Gee man, we have to give him a chance here. I know you're a narcissist and it's hard for you to let someone else have attention for a little while but just let me talk for one more minute and then I'll let John talk. So maybe you can let your fellow debater talk for a little while. The problem is the book that you're talking about, even if it contains all of this racism, all of these horrible things, even if it does, and that's all true, that has nothing to do with atheism, sorry, not atheism, evolution. Because my apologies, originally we had chosen is the atheism racist. And then the topic of this debate was changed to is evolution racist. So pardon me for getting that confused, but the theory, the scientific theory of evolution is nothing to do with the beliefs of Charles Darwin. It has to do with what happens in nature and how we can observe that in nature. The book can be full of racism and it still has nothing to do with the scientific theory of evolution. It has nothing to do with it. You are trying to make a connection that does not work. It's, there's no connection in there. You're right, he went, you're right about what he went. I.e. you don't understand what you're, you're the very, I thought you wanted me to come back, G. I.e. you don't even understand the very topic that you wanted to debate. I mean, not Matthew, sorry. G-man, we do have to let Matthew and Ned finish. They're being condescending and they're not debating. They're not dealing with what we're talking about. You can totally point that out right after. Here he goes. We also haven't heard from, if we do wanna hear from John, John, we can kick it over to you as well if you have anything to add. I would much rather hear from John. Please, Jack. I think it's wrong that people would be little in G-man.  Whatever you think about his opinions, it's whatever. I don't really care. G-man's, it's a great point to make. I understand that you're saying it's not exactly evolution, but it's extrapolated from it. People use the evolution, right? Take eugenics, for example. Let's just be, let's be practical. People take the evolution question that there are different races and the different qualities within the races.  We're gonna breed this trait in and take this trait out. They do it with people, just like they do with the dogs. This is a fact of reality.   They're just presenting the facts, right? And Charles Darwin, I was reading a book today written in the 1800s called Crania Americana. And this atheist evolutionist was showing different skulls. And he was saying that you can see different skulls in different races. Native Americans had different skulls. The Negro had different skulls. The Caucasian man had different skulls. Right there in that fact, this is my question. So I'm gonna stop here real quick and I'm gonna offer off a question. Are there different racial groups within the species? I know evolution doesn't teach that we're different species. There's no speciation, but within the species, is there a Negro race, is there a Caucasian race? If so, do these groups have different racial characteristics? Sure. Not sure to say, it's not sure. One say no, because we're going. Can I get on that? Because if we look at it from a scientific perspective, we have 99.99% the exact same genetic code and from evolutionary standpoint, what defines a species is can they interbreed? So if you wanna say that that .01% differentiates special classes, definitionally you're wrong, but even if we grant that, like Matthew said, we still man that, it is an irrelevant point. There is absolutely nothing from a scientific perspective. That's what I'm trying to explain. Because there's nothing from a scientific perspective that would prescribe, there is a quote unquote superior breakout of that 0.1%. They're from an intellectual standpoint, we are exactly the same. We have everybody from Neil deGrasse, Tyson, all the way down to you with the monocytic white man that's ever walked the planet. I may be. Okay. Sorry, the leg is a little rough on the show tonight. I apologize if I interrupt. When you pause, I think you're done. I apologize. So you're saying that. I'm the same way, John. You're saying that the people today aren't here today because they won out over the dead that happened in your opinion millions of years ago. They're not inferior, they lost out. No, they're absolutely here because that evolution through natural selection won out. Now, if you wanna bring into eugenics into the picture, that is a personal opinion on how we can manipulate natural selection and it's no longer natural selection. That is special selection. In the same way, like you said, that we breed dogs, we breed horses, we breed cows. That is not the theory of evolution. You can use it, but no one does that or at least anymore. No one is using that anymore to say, oh, we're trying to, from a eugenics standpoint, wipe out all of the ex-people because they're inferior. There's no scientific... Of course we're still doing that. We have designer babies. The Communist China practices a form of this. They're breeding out the weak of what they're saying, the weak genes, the weak gene pool. This is a practice that's happening today, my brother. And you're absolutely right, John. John, you're absolutely right, but are they doing it because of the race? Are they doing it because they want their particular child to be better? That's where it becomes racist? Because in their belief, I don't believe in evolution, but they believe that evolution exists and they can manipulate it to perform. They can make... Absolutely. They're outcome greater, which we can't hear. We've already proven that with horses and dogs and across the globe. There you go. So racism gives us more of a racism. It's racism. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Racism is an evolution. Wait a second, John, you're making a leap. One second, let's give... Promise to come back to you, man. G-Man, I promise we'll come right back to you, G-Man. We want to give a chance to respond from the other side to John's last points. G-Man, G-Man, the grown-ups are talking. Can you go play with Dustin in the corner or do something to entertain yourself while we're having an actual discussion? So anyway, John, because you had a great point there and I want to try to clarify this. G-Man, G-Man, G-Man. I can understand why G-Man's a little upset. I mean, I can understand why G-Man's a little mad. I can think it. I think that it's the reason that shade is being thrown G-Man's ways because he's interrupted. So I think that's the reason that you haven't gotten the shade as much. So G-Man, we have to be fair to that. I appreciate the passion. We all do. That's not why I'm getting shade. I'm not even dealing with the stuff that I brought up in my opening statement. Normally, you would interrupt people and you would say to them, look, that's not the topic of the debate. You notice I still need to get my answer about I didn't expect, they didn't tell me how mutations could come from the features. G-Man, how about the science? Why don't we give a chance to Ned quickly to respond to John? I promise we'll come right to you afterward. And then you gotta stop, you gotta stop the ad-homotax because if negation of P doesn't one more time it's gonna be a problem in here. I'm serious. This is a serious topic and he's making light of it. I'm gonna have him for dinner later. He didn't say no way.   You laugh later. Go ahead. You're named to be right there. You try to look the video, my friend. Go ahead.  I want you to answer our questions and stop throwing the ad-homotax. I'm trying to. I'm trying to. Answer them. I'm not loaning in fruit. You don't want to deal with the actual topic. You can't even deal with me bringing up social Darwinism. You didn't bring up any of that. All you said was, oh, just because somebody has an opinion doesn't mean that it's not evolution. And you called it science. You're not telling anybody. You got it. We're gonna give, let's give them a chance to respond to both John's point and Donald's point. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm so entertained. John, you made a, you actually made a good point here. But what you're forgetting is, is that the use of gene manipulation is not based off of a special or a, you know, it's not because of skin tone. It's not because of race, if you will, even though I don't believe there are human, different human races. But it is based on, can I select for a stronger, oh, I don't know, intellectual child? Can I give them an advantage from an athletic standpoint? But there's absolutely no breakout saying we should breed out X race. That's not where quote unquote, if you won't even call it this, modern eugenics comes in. And that's why it's not racist because it doesn't target a race. It targets specific traits. That's just like we do an adult. We don't breed out the Chihuahua because they're little. No, we breed for the traits in that dog. They're still all dogs. So anyhow, sorry, I don't want to ramble. Just to answer that a quick point that there are race of humans that were bred out. The Neanderthals are an example of a race of human beings that were bred out of competition. Is that not, not the case? The homo-sapien one out, there you go, a form of races. Right, but wait a second. No, that is natural selection doing that. It wasn't a eugenics or a person. Okay. Well, what I'm saying is, is racist believing that someone is superior to another person. Oh, that's not, okay, I want to answer that real quick. I think that's the problem right there is that we're assuming that racism is that a person's political beliefs. But the definition of racism can also mean that you believe that a particular race has some sort of dominant feature over another race. It doesn't necessarily have to be bigotry. Well, that's exactly the definition is that one's belief, one person believes that there are, there is at least one race that is superior to the other. In science, it could be multiple. Okay, well again, you can go multiple. I absolutely agree. But that is what is definitional to what is racist. But science doesn't do that. Science says that from an evolutionary standpoint, whatever nature selects for because of advantages in the environment. And that could be somebody who's weaker. That could be, but how is that racist? Because racism comes from an opinion of a person and it's not, we're trying to manipulate that to get rid of quote unquote, the weaker races. You're saying from a naturalistic point of view, evolution allows for one trait to be taken out over another one. That is better. That is superior. However you want to worry. Whoa, whoa, whoa, don't smug, don't, I'm sorry, John, don't smuggle in better. That is not what evolution talks about. Are we better than a cheetah? G-Man, again, me and John are talking, please try to refrain from acting like it. If G-Man wants to jump in, I'll let him talk. Well, but as soon as I finish my answer, then he can. But not a little of my students. G-Man, let's let negation of P finish his point. I promise we'll come right back to you, G-Man. Yeah, I mean, here's the thing. Is a cheetah better than a human? From a velocity standpoint, how fast it can run? Absolutely. Is a gorilla better than a human? Absolutely, they're stronger. If you're gonna start smuggling these words to better. Can we get that one at the top? G-Man, can you work with me here? I promise. Immediately, like if you want to. You know, G-Man, just because you don't understand this is the topic doesn't mean that it's not the topic. So, yeah, G-Man, please try. I can't hear. That will be adulterated. We're losing some people. It's time to Scott Ropot voices come through. Hold on one second.  I've, hold on one sec, guys. Okay, give me one second. G-Man, work with me. Okay, so give me one sec. Let's give negation of P 30 seconds to finish his point. We'll come right back to you, G-Man. We got to give him a shot to finish his point, okay? No. Okay, go ahead, negation of P and then we'll come back to G-Man. Okay, thanks.  I mean, I don't know. Anyway, I'm going to, I don't know where we were. So I don't want to waste time. Sorry. Okay. We'll go, we'll kick it over. G-Man, the floor is yours. I want to see this public right now. I want to see this publicly. I was on here the last time with this guy named, with this flatterer and during that entire debate, quite the flatterer sat down through ad homes at me all day. I'm in this debate and this so-called college teacher or this educator right here, he's throwing ad homes at me all day. They don't want to actually debate. I actually have a very specific question. You said that evolution was science. How does mutations create new amatomical features? Is that for me? It's for you or your partner. I just want somebody to answer and approve that it's science because evolution is not science. Cool. Go ahead, Matthew.  Go ahead, Matthew. I'm afraid of all this one. Okay. Okay. So now the topic of the debate has to do with the scientific aspect of evolution or the philosophical aspect of evolution or the socio-economical ramifications of evolution or what someone once said about evolution and how it affects different races 150 years ago. It seems to me like the goalposts are shifting since we've already defeated the points that you made at the beginning. Now, they're shifting and changing, but let's just- You need to do nothing. You didn't answer my question. You man, you man, we do have to let them know. We can't just intervene like this.  There's gotta be a brain in there somewhere. Answer the question. Okay. Which one? You've asked 10, I've answered nine. So there must be one that I missed or I forgot. My memory is not so great sometimes. Mutations. How is she listening to me? Okay. And then right now I'm muting you, G-Man, until he finishes, okay? Okay. One example is ring species. You can Google ring species that shows how one species in an environment around the state of California of salamanders moved around, migrated around the state of California and over time became separate species with different characteristics, which shows that since they can no longer mate with each other, they are for not the same species anymore. Speciation is proof of macroevolution. This has been known and said all over the internet for 10 years at least. That's the proof. I'm gonna try to be as polite as possible and say thank you to you since you too want to communicate. Just because something becomes a different type of species, doesn't mean that they're creating new anatomical features. You clearly don't know what that is. A new anatomical feature would be a feature that that animal no longer had, that doesn't already have. For example, the mutation happens is a mistake, right? So you would have three eyes instead of two, or you'll have one eye instead of two or whatever, right? That's a mutation. In order for me to have common ancestry with an animal and it'd be science, you got to be able to show something different. A new anatomical feature, okay? That had nothing to do with the previous animal, all right? And you can't do that. All you said, okay, animal went to his other part of town and features, you can't do that. Now, going to my or not science, let's actually get to the philosophy. And you too, Matthew, too, because I'm gonna put you in the same category. You say that because a person has a particular opinion, it has nothing to do with the theory itself. Where did they get the opinion from? They got the opinion from the theory. The theory justifies their racism. I'll give you an example. Why did Adon Hitler want to wipe out the Jews? Because they looked at them as being an inferior race and the only one at a superior race, the Arians at this particular time to actually dominate. As a matter of fact, if anybody wasn't what Adon Hitler considered to be a superior race, he wiped them out, okay? Do you know what a natural selection is, guys? So let me read it to you here. Actually, let me read to you what social Darwinism is, okay? The theory that individual groups and peoples are subject to the same Darwinian laws of natural selection as plants and animals. Now, largely discredited social Darwinism was advocated by Herbert Spencer and others in the late 19th and 20th centuries and was used to justify political conservatism, imperialism, and racism, and to discourage intervention and rapport.  You notice that I'm actually dealing with the actual topic at hand. They said, they said Lucian had nothing to do with it. Then tell me this, why was Darwin believing that his race was superior?  Please explain that without going on. So, G-man, you don't understand the topic like Dragnut Silvis told you to say.  I haven't talked to Dragnut in years. Anyway, so please explain to me. You have to give him a chance to respond. That's my question. Would you mute him for a couple of minutes so I can actually answer the question? I'll mute myself, you answer the question. Thanks, G-man. You can believe that I'm a liar, but that's fine. I don't really care what you believe. You have the freedom to believe what you like, G-man. I haven't done anything really online, other than be worried about Trump and all of this mess, this coronavirus, over the last few months. And anyway, to come back to the topic, again, I don't really believe that this debate is about one question. It's about multiple questions. And that is a trap that G-man was attempting to set up with this debate from the beginning. So let's just run over the points, the social aspect, the philosophical ramifications and the scientific theory. Now, the scientific theory describes nature, which has been around according to the evidence since before human beings were human beings. This is a process that was occurring before human beings were human beings, according to the science. Now, how that existed, how that worked out, had no input, no effect from human beings. Evolution has been progressing ever since. Now, yes, since human beings have been in a position of being able to modify and affect natural selection and domesticating animals and warfare and affecting each other's civilizations and wiping out through genocide this people and that people and our biases against each other are affecting each other, we are having an effect that only nature did before, yes, but that does not change the underlying science of how evolution works. So you've got gene drift, which is random changes in genetic structure. You've got genetic mutation and you've got natural selection. Two of those are random, one of them is not. All of those things affect evolution. Now, the question that you seem to now want that I didn't answer correctly before, apparently, is how does a new feature, anatomical feature appear or disappear, give you an example of that and that is now the focus of the debate. Okay, so let's focus on that. You can look through all of the transitional species that we have evidence of through the fossil record and through the genetics that we've sequenced. There have been transitional species from fish to amphibians, among others and that goes from having gills to lungs. So that means that gills are disappearing and lungs are appearing. You've got examples of that right now with lungfish, mudskippers, for example. This is an imagination, can we get some evidence? That's not evidence, that's an imagination. It's just conjecture. Can we get some evidence, please, because I think you better go get your college professor back, okay, the people who actually do this for a living all disagree with you. So you being wrong has nothing to do with the science. You've been off the grid for a while, my friend. There's a document that 1000 scientists assigned that it said that they're doubting the theory of evolution. I will show it if you want. All right, that is a lie and you cannot show me these new anatomical features. That's number one. Number two, you are avoiding social Darwinism. You don't want to talk about that. You will not get into the eugenics and talk about what motivated Adolf Hitler to believe that the Aryan race was superior to the Jews or anybody else for that particular matter. You want to know why? Because you will lose the debate the moment you start talking about it. Okay, so let's talk about it. Let's talk about the actual topic.   Let's go back to John, maybe. We haven't heard from John for a while. Hopefully, we'll hear back from... All right, we've got Ned. I think Ned puts himself in a bit of a peculiar situation because he said the affirmative to my question earlier of whether or not there were subcategories to the human species. And I think just that affirmative statement that there are racial categories. Whether or not... Okay, you can make arguments saying, well, it's just human opinions, which one are better or worse. But the fact that that exists, the fact that in your opinion that evolution is producing some racial groups one way, you know, A, and then a way B, right? And then someone can come in and say, okay, maybe running faster is better. Maybe someone being stronger is better. It sort of puts you in a bad position, no matter which way you go, because then now you can manipulate it. Now you can come in. Now you... G-MED points. I think G-MED... I don't think you can get away with it. You have people who are abusing the system as you will. Now you're saying the system is gender-neutral to use that phrase, right? It doesn't matter. It's not saying one way or the other. It's not... Technically it is, because it's deciding at this particular situation, this is better, this particular situation, this is preferable. So therefore there's something that's not preferable. Therefore that's categorized as worse. You see how that ends up? I understand it's English. It's the human language. It's language. I understand all that. But objectively speaking, I think this is another point. I think this is a problem with... You don't believe there's an objective truth to what's going on. There's something that's actually happening, and it's saying one way or the other. But you're saying, oh, it's just subjective. When really it isn't really subjective. That's just what I'm saying. And G-MED's obviously talking about the implications of those things. I mean, I can understand why he would believe it.  I don't know how it's pronounced. Tuskegee experiment on African people, you have... Tuskegee. Sorry, I apologize for mispronouncing it. You have these things where these people believe that black people didn't feel pain, and black people, it didn't matter what you did to them, because they involved that way. They involved not to have pain receptors. This is what they believe from the evidence. It's hard to get away from that. I understand you're saying, we should divorce that. We should say, no, put that to the side. That's a racist... That's a racial...  I'd just like to put a pin in this right now and come back to that point later. I would like to address this point when Ned is done. Okay, fair enough. Ned, what's going on in your back? You have your fellow bear? How's that really? I'm taking vodka over here. I'm down to three cups here. What's going on? Nice. So, no. I mean, again, man, the thing is, as long as you can substantiate that these quote-unquote better qualities of human beings are being selected because of race, okay, it's racist, but you're not giving us anything like that.  They're not doing it based on any kind of racial line whatsoever. In the same way that we manipulate the genes of a dog, doesn't mean that... I mean, they're all dogs. We're all people. We're all humans. And because the science does it that way and incorporates us all into one... homogenous group, you can't say it's racist. I mean, again, it's a ridiculous question. I'm sorry. But because you... I mean, okay, then let's look at it this way. It's not simply skin color. It's not simply skin color. It's based on race. Again, I agree. Race is more than your skin color. I agree. 100%. You're right. So, here's the thing, James. You tell me, and this may be a little controversial, but I'm going to go ahead and go out on this limb. I like being out on the limbs. That's where you actually... No judgment sound. There's no judgment on me. I don't know. Again, I'll use... James, they got to answer the Hitler question. They haven't done it yet. Oh, my God. So, the Hitler question. G-man, please. Why does Hitler not eradicate the Jews? And what... How about... Well, there's a huge argument. G-man, again, because of your ignorance, you don't understand, you might want to go look at on the Jews and their lies from Martin Luther and how that mirrors Mein Kampf almost to the letter. Mein Kampf never quotes Darwin. In fact, Hitler... G-man, can I finish this? I know. You've got to jump around like a two-year-old. No, I don't got to jump around like a two-year-old. Mein Kampf never quotes Darwin ever. In fact, toward the end of the war, Hitler actually burned the origin of the species. But because of your ignorance, you don't see this. And because you don't know that Hitler based 90% of his views toward the Jewish people off of Martin Luther's writings, again, I understand that ignorance is bliss. So let's go back to someone who actually will think, John in particular. So, John, back to your... Brett Keene's son is the one that actually thinks. I'm glad you said that twice, Negation, if you could. In relation to you, yes, he does. He actually has some good points, G-man. I have good points. I have an answer to my question regarding eugenics. You can't sit there and tell me that that's not an actual selection. You haven't pulled it. Let me repeat you what you said in Negation.  That is the best quote in the world. Please, somebody, please, please, please, somebody. John, can you... I don't know. Has it... James, has it moved to our time to ask questions you have? Oh, we got the Q&A. Oh, we got Q&A. Q&A. But wait, wait, wait, wait. Either you and him or whatever, because I've got to hit this point. I've got to hit this point. Eugenics is natural. Again, natural selection. I mean, that is the best quote of the year. How is eugenics natural selection? Please explain that. Please, explain it. Eugenics, you're making a point. This is why nobody wants to come on here no more. Listen, this is what you've been saying. God. You're saying the study of how... Matthew, go ahead. Hi. Yeah. Sorry. This is up there with S.A. Thomas and others. I'll try not to get the giggles again. Seriously, why aren't they answering my question? Good luck with that. Before they say anything else, James, make them answer the question, okay? James, I'm a non-filler, and why he did what he did with the Jews. Now, he's not there. I thought I did. I did answer it. I absolutely addressed it 100%. Fight the flatter. They just did nothing but be rude. James, James, James. Wait, honestly.  Secondarily, the problem is, is Eugenics, he tied to Martin Luther's beliefs in how Jewish people were evil. That's why, can I finish G-Man? That's why he did what he did. G-Man. That's why he did what he did. Not evolution. We'll kick it over to him. Come on to that now. If you want to do a 30-second quick one, G-Man, then we got to kick it over to him. I just want to read the definition of it, and then I want to bring up Francis Galton and show you why I know he went on Google. If you guys go Google up Eugenics, he knows what he was talking about. It says to study how to arrange reproduction within a human population to increase the occurrence of an inheritable characteristic regarded as desirable. This man just got finished talking to J-Dubs about speciations, and he was talking about survival of the fittest and everything when he was talking to J-Dubs about this. Then it says it was developed largely by Francis Galton as a method of improving the human race. It fell into disfavor only after the perversion of the doctrines by the Nazis. That does not... Listen to me carefully, immigration appeal. That does not mean that Hitler had... that Hitler was not directly influenced by the theory of evolution. You bringing up Francis Galton didn't mean anything. I know you Googled it, and I know you had to in order to even talk about this. So let's try this again. Explain how evolution had nothing to do with the extermination of the Jews. They believed that they was a superior race. Evolution teaches, and J-Dubs is correct when he says this, evolution teaches is that you got a race of people out there that is more evolved than other people, particularly white people. They will say that black people are closer to the apes because of our physical appearance, and you keep sitting there going like this and laughing at one night as if that's just going to magically go away. When the police are out there, you can laugh it up, and please keep doing it.  When Adolf Hitler sat there and talked to people, I'm not going to laugh about that. No, you keep laughing. When Adolf Hitler- I'm not laughing about that, G-Man. In fact, I'm about to drop you- Wait a minute.  No, wait. No, no, no. G-Man, G-Man. Please let me address this. Let me address this because I am- There is no- You know how relaxed- G-Man. Please, please, please mute him. I've got him on mute, but I think Darth Dawkins taught him how to unmute. Hold on, G-Man. Here's the thing, for him to come in here and be- No, man. G-Man. Faith your G-Man. Here's the thing, is seriously- To be that disingenuous and absolutely accuse me of actually, like I am not sympathetic to what is going on today. G-Man, I literally was in- G-Man, I literally- I literally was in Indiana today.  I didn't happen to see you at the rally. I didn't happen to see you on the street.    You have no idea who you're talking to. You two old child. I'm done, I'm done, James. Let him ramble.  I'm the racist, Gene. I'm the racist, I'm the one that was in Indiana war. You're making excuses for Hitler. We're going to kick it over to Matthew. Matthew's been really patient. You know what you're doing here?   You listen to me.  The absolute lies and the absolute friend over here.  You're making excuses for that. You're making excuses for that. You're making excuses for that. You're making excuses for that. All that. Okay. Thank you for that. Let's kick it over to Matthew. We'll take one more point from Matthew before we go into the Q&A. Thank you very much. I don't like people that take this. Do you see what? Okay. I hate sorry. You don't take none of this. Okay. G-Man. Okay. No, no. G-Man. G-Man. You're like. Every time I come in here. Every time I come in here. Every time I come in here.  We're going to kick it over to Matthew. Okay. We're ready for you. Matthew. You allow. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. You're like, oh, man. Oh, man. Oh, man. And I can quote. Please. Okay. Ready for you, Matthew. No. No. You man. You're old. Come in here. G-man, please. I just want to say thank you, James. The host of the show is a great, it's a great show. And. Everyone. Everyone subscribed to James. Everyone subscribed to James. Everyone by one of James's shirts, You see what they support over here? Please, dude. James, it's been at home. I appreciate it. Let's see. One sec. It's been at home for a whole day, but they won't take time to these cards. G-man, please. Why didn't you invite me on here if nobody was going to take this seriously? I think that if you sound like Darth Dawkins right now. Calm down. OK, we're going to kick it over to Matthew. Oh, OK. I can talk now. I would actually like to agree with both of my opponents on something. And that is that human beings and how we affect our environment and each other, even on a species-wide scale, we have had a very morally negative impact on evolution. We have used our values, superimposed our values over even animals, whether because we're afraid of tigers or because we want more pigs or cows or chicken or because we hate our enemy across the river. All of these factors throughout history have caused us to have a negative impact on some aspects of life on Earth. Yes. In that way, how we affect evolution of other species, other aspects of the human race or the human species, even other hominids before us and coexisting with us, we've had a negative impact on a lot of them because of the horrible warlike aspects of human civilization. Yes. In that way, we have allowed racism, our racism, to affect evolution. Yes. I agree. But that still has nothing to do with life itself and the four billion some odd years that the Earth existed before we got here. So the science still is not based on how we feel about our enemies. That is a social issue. So yes, you have the philosophy that comes from evolution, the political viewpoints and the political actions, even some scientific experiments, horrible things that were done to people throughout history based on racism could be informed by what someone read in a book about evolution. Yes. That still doesn't change the fact that, OK, the best analogy that I can think of is a water hose.  Now, you can use that hose, which is just the flowing of water under pressure through a hose.  You can use it to torture somebody with Chinese water torture. There's a lot of things you can do with it, but the hose is still a hose. How we use it. Can you actually answer some of the questions? Can I get my closing statements? Sure. Honestly, can we actually get back to the topic? I've got to go anyway. I have to call my dog. You're leaving. I still love you, stop, baby.  Oh, John, it was nice to meet you. No, I'm sorry.  You're right. All right. Why don't we take care of Matthew. Thanks for being with us tonight. Totally understandable. Family first. And what we'll do is, John, if you had any quick, really quick. Just a piffy comment real quick. Just a piffy comment before we go to Q&A. And I really hope people send some Q&As our way and donate to the channel. Super chats, I really appreciate it. I think that we have to acknowledge that there is something objective and something subjective. And I think that we have to acknowledge that there are things that humans are doing and something from their perspective, naturally happening. Something's naturally occurring. And I think that the debate was supposed to be about what's naturally occurring in this so-called process of evolution. I don't believe in evolution, but I'm just going for what they believe. They believe that there are natural occurrences that are happening objectively. But apparently from what I've learned tonight that there aren't things that are happening objectively, which I found interesting. Although there was disagreement about whether or not there are races being produced by evolution, that is a natural thing that happened from what I assumed that the human species, through evolution, produce races. They produce human beings that were Negroes. They produce human beings that were Caucasian. Objectively speaking, you can quantify objectively that there are qualities that are better or superior. However you want to word it, I don't want to put a thing on a James. This is my closing statement. That's just what I'm in this position that I'm coming from, James. And that's just what I'm saying. That's just my position that, out there in the ether, what they believe that there are things happening that are superior, inferior, better, worse. They grew an extra leg because it's better. They grew gills because it was a beneficial thing for survival. Obviously, not having gills is not good in their perspective. So that's what they believe, not me. So thank you, James, for having me. And I don't even know what else to say, James. Thank you. Thank you, my pleasure. And we appreciate it. By the way, we may not do this topic again. Who knows? But I will let you know if you're interested in these controversial topics. I just found out today, Brenton is going to be debating JF on this coming Tuesday on whether, basically, on the topic of race and police brutality. So that should be, it will be probably a fiery one. And so hopefully we'll see you there for that one. Next up, want to get into Q&A. So Steven Steen, thanks for your super chat, said, James is the alpha race. Evolution has favorites. That's funny. OK, Dwayne Burke, thanks for your super chat, said, tell G-Cat we are all meeting at Hooters later. Next up, the G-man has left the building. The Holy Spackle, thanks for your super chat, said, Matthew, good to see you again. Sorry, it's under such poor circumstances. Hashtag fighting oppression. Appreciate it. And Jen S, thanks for your super chat, says, Darwin was racist and sexist. Respect yourselves, women. Gotcha, OK. Next up, and if you guys want to jump in and respond to these, you can if you'd like. You don't have to if you don't want to. Next up.  OK, I will absolutely agree that at least from a sexist standpoint, yes, he was, as was most of the people, most of the men in the late 1800s. Racist, OK, if you want to go there. Again, it has nothing to do with the theory. So sorry, James, go ahead. No problem. Oh, and by the way. Want to give you guys a chance to respond to these. Gotcha, Dwayne Burke, thanks for your super chat, said, Ned forgot to take a tape back to blockbusters. I think that was just regarding the connection. I'm not sure. But my connection was bad tonight, folks. I have no idea what it was. It was good. Next up, holy skepticism. Thanks for your super chat. Said, happy birthday, G-man. God bless you. Next up, Frito Sarabia. Thanks for your super chat. Says he asked, does the evil dictator does schedule? You know what I mean? I have to give up a lot of my data coming here to have these discussions. And I have I never want to see this guy in a room with me again. That's all I know. Negation. What? John did his past. Leave him alone. So run, run, run, G-man. Run away, run away, run away.  You know, because you can't handle it, I understand. You guys are old buddies. G-man, you're old buddies. OK, thanks for your super chat. Sigevredo Sarabia said, does the evil dictator from World War 2, does that evil dictator's, quote, master race correlate with social Darwinism? Would there have to be a, quote, master race if origin of species describes a, quote, lower race, unquote, in evolution? I'll address that. I'll address that for sure if you, if you'd like. Sure. OK, absolutely. Yes. Because the key phrase there is social Darwinism. Social Darwinism has been debunked, or social evolution would be a more appropriate term. That has been debunked for well over 50 years now. But because certain individuals can't understand the difference between social Darwinism or social evolution, and evolutionary theory does not mean the evolutionary theory does not hold. Got it. Yes. And I want to respond to that. This is not a debate on whether or not your precious science holds or not. I actually, one question, you didn't answer it. All right? Now, as far as the philosophy. I did three times, G-man, just because you're not intelligent enough to understand it, I did. As far as the philosophy of evolution. So riled up tonight. We must continue.  It's all right.  Thanks for your super chat. She said, G-man, you defend slavery, whereas Darwin was against slavery and concerned about reducing poverty. Who is more racist?  So anyway, going back to negation and pee, all right? Negation and pee. My argument was it had to do with the philosophy of evolution. The topic actually deals with that, OK? And I can bring it back to your scientific evolution, what J-Dubb said about appreciation, all right? Or about genes or whatever, right? And you don't want to talk about that. You want to sit there and cause somebody low hanging fruit, right? Me too. Like I said, this is a really good question. You are absolutely the low hanging fruit. We will definitely agree with that. What do you are going to get soon? That's all I got to say. Good. Gotcha. Thanks for your answer. Let me come back on that. Let me come back on that. The only racist laugh about this is not funny. Let me finish off this again. This is not funny.  I'm sorry, but as an educator and as of someone who teaches. So the moderator does something about it. G-man, you just said you're going to go let Ned respond. No, no, no, I was responding to him. But then you're not going to let me respond back to him. He's going to get the last word, and that's going to be it. This super chat originally was for, let me try to figure out who this is for. That super chat was originally for Ned. So I do have to give Ned the last word, because I don't want to have it be a super chat. Goodbye, old me. Go ahead, Ned. And misrepresent me, straw me and me, and then throw your ad-homs, because that's all you got. Good. G-man, I've answered your questions. And because you think, are you going to let me?  I mean, I'm sorry, but my nine-year-old has better self-control than you do. That's a statement of fact. That's not an ad-hom. You still have improved that my position is wrong, though. How about that? I know. And that's what's amazing, that in your mind, I still haven't, even though I've explained it to you three times, and there's been at least 20 people outside this discussion that's explained it to you.  Wow, I'm shocked.  Oh, atheists agree with you already. They agree with you. We have to give him the last word. The super chat was directed. The super chat was targeting him. Go ahead.   I'm happy I'm not one of his next students, because he ain't going to learn enough. G-Man. All right. Thanks, Bill. Yeah, that's why I've been paid for 25 years for my educational skills. You're right. Not to actually teach.  Oh, wait. We got that one. Oh, wait. OK, this is actually my mistake. G-Man, that super chat was for you. That was the one about, oh, no, you went back to the original one. So yeah, OK. Charlie Welch, thanks for your super chat. Said evolution is racist is like saying baseball is mean. Gotcha. Raptor Hovind, thanks for your super chat. Said G-Man, please stop. Let's see. Please stop. Gotcha. T-R-O-C66, thanks for your super chat. Said G-Man, ad-hem, quote, ad-homs are bad. Also G-Man, quote, I know what you look like and you are going to be sorry later. Good threat, G-Man, real Christian of you. Did you say that during tonight's debate, G-Man? Oh, yeah. Yes, he did. Absolutely, that's what I thought. That's why I was laughing at so long. In other words, negation to pee. Negation to pee, because I got to hang out. It's already being advertised on my YouTube channel. You should see what it says. OK, let's not. Hey, James, James, that's one point to the. What are you doing right now? You're making excuses to race it. Can I make one point on the baseball comment real quick? Yeah, OK. I think that I mean, we're agreeing with you, though. I think I know, but I just want to piggyback on that if I could. I have to give G-Man a chance to respond if I if you do, please do. Yeah, I would love to hear G-Man's responses. We all know that G-Man is a Christian by every definition of the word. We also know G-Man struggles with bisexual curiosity. Therefore, with his reasoning with Darwin, every Christian is bisexual, at least if not homosexual. So go ahead, come back on that. I would say that, James. James, you got to know me about you got to know me about over talking him. That is a rumor on on on YouTube that him and. No, I can bring up the. I can bring up the client that you said you're going to my power to take it but the court because it ain't you. We better remember that. All right, just remember that. G-Man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is not home. This is this is what this is exactly. I don't want to hear your G-Man. I don't want to hear your boy and leave. I don't want to hear your voice. I don't want to hear your voice. I don't want to hear your voice. I'm just going to read through more quickly.   Raptor Hovind, thanks for your super chat. Raptor Hovind said, G-Man triggered. Raptor Hovind, these are your other super chats at James' great entertainment. I'm sorry, Wilson said, happy birthday, G-Man. Next up, thanks for your voice. I want to hear your voice. I don't want to hear your voice. It's got a good beat. Let's see. This is a quote from Stupid Horror Energy. She said, quote, Darwin, like Abraham Lincoln, believed in white superiority, but he was far more enlightened and sympathetic to black people than most white men of his time. I'm on a Christian channel. Remember that, guys, this is a Christian channel. Remember that. Because I mean, it's true. I'm a Christian personally, but the channel's neutral, like, in the sense that we don't have any Christian videos or atheist videos. Nothing neutral about what's going on right now.  I'm not even on my level in terms of subscribers and notoriety on YouTube. Like, honestly, can you understand what I'm saying? Even nobody, even nobody, nobody.  Go read some chapter one. Next up. Three songs, one. Vegan Cap Libre. Thank you, Laura, for my channel. Go read some, chapter one. Vegan Cap Libertarian. Thanks for your super chat. Said, hey, G-Man, if we're all made in God's image, why aren't we all invisible? If you want to explain what being made in God's image is, you can, G-Man. Six questions. Well, I'm sorry. John, if you want to respond, you can. I know you believe in the Tanakh, right? Sure, sure. What does it mean to be made in the image of God? It means that we can rational. We can think and speak. Gotcha. Thank you. And I'm sorry, Wilson. Thanks for your super chat. Said, Ned, if you start causally starting, if you start casually, if you casually start using the N-word with the hard R, G-Man might defend you against racism like he does Shani Revin von Hilton. Yeah, I've got a little too much class to do that. But again, when you can jump back and forth from one fence to another, and just because of happenstance and the person happens to somewhat agree with your position, that shows exactly how strong your arguments are. Gotcha. Looks like G-Man's speaking. And I'm going to do some pre-trial again. And I'm going to do that as early as Monday. OK. Oh, no. Please don't put the police.  My whole world will crash if you're going to pre-trial me. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, I don't know. Oh, my. You're going to get it from me. And then we'll see how funny he thinks it is then. OK, good. Thank you, Raptors. Oh, these funny things I think it is tonight. Raptors. And James is going along with this laughing. You know what I mean? I don't find it funny. It's all good. G-Man, you don't get it. You are hilarious. That is the whole reason that I'm here tonight.   I don't care what you think. It's not what I think. It's not what I think. It's what everybody thinks. Right now, you're creating atheism. You're creating people who need atheism. Right now, including your own Christian brothers. Don't worry. I'll be live soon. We'll see if that's true. And I'm going to have plenty of African-Americans in my channel, too, talking about this. We'll see who the races is soon, Negation to P. Absolutely. Please bring them all. And trust me, that's what you will be qualified as. You and Matthew. Work my words. You'll see. And you know what you're talking about, right?  You're joking. And James. And James. And one more thing, James. James, I resent the fact that I'm on this YouTube channel and you keep correcting me, but in their opening statements, all they did was throw ad homes and then he asked for nobody questions. And then you proceeded to question me. Next up, Adam Elbilia. Elbilia, thanks for your Patreon question said statement for G-Man. Chillax, bro. Life is awesome. You're friendly. You're not inviting me back to this YouTube channel if this is what's going to be happening. You're friendly. Like honestly, there's no serious discord going on here. Okay. There's no serious... Next up, bigzebra.com said, hi G-Man, I can't stay. I just wanted to wish you a happy birthday. Happy birthday. Next up, okay. Brian Stevens, thanks for your Patreon comment said, Project Steve only used creationists with the name Steve and has 1,448 compared to G-Man's 1,000 scientists of any possible name who believe in creationism. I would have mentioned that, but I don't think I could have gotten a word in edgewise. It's a good point. Next up, thanks for your Super Chat from, Stupid Horror Energy said, Darwin didn't have slaves, G-Man. Next up, Raptor Hovind, thanks for your Super Chat said, happy sweet 16 birthday. Vegan Cap Libertarian, thanks for your Super Chat said, hey James, love your channel, man. Thanks for your kind words. Totally appreciate it. All credit to the speakers, by the way, including G-Man. But may I ask, how much would you charge to have a debate between G-Man and Cirrus, the skeptic on the morality of Christianity? I'm willing to host it. I don't know if G-Man's going to want to. What, you said next Friday? I have some birthday cake because. We get some serious moderation. I have serious moderation. I've been like, I've been like so easy going with you. You're not getting on about their attack.  Right, and I am to get or threaten the negation of P. I'm going to use this thumbnail on my video, this whole thumbnail right here. As a matter of fact. No, please, man, don't use my face. Let's go to Massive. Can you do anything not to do that? Anything. Well, today's Gary's birthday and mine is next week. So I celebrated my birthday with my dad. I don't have no friendship with you. My name is G-Man. My name is G-Man. That's not use people's first names. That's not Doc's drop. Come on. No, it's not. It's not. Everybody on the planet. It's not. It's not doctor. It is. He doesn't refer to himself on the internet. He does. That's the problem. He does. He is the one who has dropped his own name. You have to understand. He uses it personally. This is why I didn't give you my address. I knew it. I knew it. This is why I didn't give you my address. James. I'm not talking about. It's a private. Internet. You do. That's wrong. Next time, I hear my name on here, somebody's getting dropped on his channel. And I'm not playing. Okay. Drop of G. Drop of G. I'm going to go to jail. That's a thing. I'm getting engaged in the beauty of it. I'm getting engaged in the beauty of it. Jail. Jail. Jail. I'm getting engaged in the beauty of it. I'm not going to care about blacks and all that stuff. I'm just trying. John, we've known. John, don't try to. He goes by G-Man, referred to him as G-Man. I'm gonna say you know you're behind the gates in the people are my words What can I do whatever what yeah something what did I tell you what kind of trouble he's in what what can I do right? Not tell you what kind of trouble. He's it. Oh, no Tell you what kind of trouble. He's it. I'm just curious Let's move on I guarantee you're gonna be involved though. I know that much. Oh my gosh. No, you're gonna be very much involved in the gates You know, I know you're talking to him next up. Okay. We can I've not talked well, whatever Don't worry. Don't worry.   Thank you for that I think that's a reference from from Darth Dawkins one of my enemies a Maynard saves things for your super chat said Shame my tongue Fat with promise all along when I woke up from that sleep. I was happier the night ever then Thank you. That's very beautiful poetry. I appreciate that Next up. Thanks for your super chat from our dearest friend main Let's see Maynard saves strikes again and says babies are selfish. I think they're they're teasing you g-man Trolls haters and naysayers. Thanks for your super chat said be careful or you'll end up in in jail I'm sorry Wilson. Thanks for your super chat said everyone going to actual physical Yeah, I'm trying to work with you. All right, so what we're gonna do is how many times have I been on this channel? I said, I don't wonder I don't want to interact with these childish comments Like you're doing this on purpose man. Seriously at this point. This is you now I Didn't even I just said jail. I read it. Okay, the other one I admit I read it Is this the modern-day debate show or is this the g-man show I forget? We are going to rock and roll and want to say thanks to our guests It's been a true pleasure with all of these guys g-man's passionate. Nobody can deny that Maybe it's because of this birthday. He's extra excited. So one last happy birthday g-man. We love you, buddy and You know, this is the trick It's like we've got people on here all the time they debate and disagree sometimes they even get passionate and Tell them that they're gonna find them in real life, but at the end of the day You know, we're all friends. So I think it's good and healthy to debate. We really appreciate our guests They're all linked in the description Steve. So sorry or I'm sorry. Well, Matthew Matthew, so sorry. I didn't get your link yet, but I will put your link in the description box immediately after I've got everybody else's if you have a link, I'd be happy to put it in there for you It's it's fine. Thank you. I appreciate that, but it's fine. You got it my pleasure. And so yes Let's see. Thanks so much everybody for being here Excited as we will be back tomorrow for a debate on whether or not there is sufficient evidence to believe in God That's another tag team. That'll be tomorrow afternoon. So hopefully we'll see you there for that Oh, I forgot to read new subscribers. I think we had one or two on the green screen In other words, when it lights up green in the back, Shakaris Sanders, thanks for being a subscriber We appreciate you being here. Welcome to the community thrilled to have you. I think there was one other one Embarrassed that I missed their name. So sorry about that, but I buck melanoma. Thanks for your super chat said I call myself buck hockey Gotcha duly noted. Thank you for that. And I think that's it for all of our announcements So do you want to say thanks so much folks? It is a true pleasure to hang out with you here every night And so it has been a lot of fun. We're gonna Wish you well and hopefully we'll see you tomorrow. Thanks again though to our speakers as the speakers really are The lifeblood of the channel. So thanks guys for being here. Take care everybody. Have a great night