Hello everyone, it is Wiki Tree Challenge Wednesday. I'm sorry I have missed the past two Wednesdays as the time difference. I haven't been able to do it since I was at work, but here I am and I'm very glad to see you all and it's gonna be an exciting live cast today. So before we get started, let me introduce everybody who's here. So next to me, I'll start since she's over here. Mindy, she's our Wiki Tree Challenge Coordinator. We would be nothing without Mindy and then I, Sarah, I'm a Wiki Tree team member. And then next to me we have Coral Parks who is our current guest star who we're doing this week and next to her, her mother is also here so she can see what we found for them, which is exciting.  Gonna be a great Wednesday. And for those of you who are watching who maybe you've popped in because you're a family of Coral and Kay or you know Melissa and maybe you don't know Wiki Tree or the Wiki Tree Challenge, I'm gonna tell you a little bit about it. So Wiki Tree is a community of genealogists who are working together on a single family tree. In other words, we collaborate through an accurate global tree that connects us all. And most remarkably, it's free. The Wiki Tree Challenge is our year-long event and part of our year of accuracy where each week a team of Wiki Trayers takes on a genealogy guest star's tree and collaborates and make it more accurate and complete than it is anywhere else. Our goal is to improve our accuracy on Wiki Tree, add more family connections and make more friends. So great. Yes, and we are definitely doing that. And I'm going to explain a little bit about the challenge and what goes on on the participant side. So for our participants, of course we're not doing it for the points and trust me, it's a lot of fun to be able to get this done for the guests. We just, we really love it. But a little bit of competition doesn't hurt, helps keep people motivated and see where they're at. So we do pick a most valuable player, MVP of the week each week. They get, all of the participants can earn 10 points, bounty points per brick wall ancestor that they find. And then for the additional relatives, they can add the siblings, children, and they get one point each. And sometimes those really add up. So that kind of gives us a way to give points and let people see where they are. Now collaboration is really, really important with this. And we wind up with anywhere from 25 to 40 people working on one week, on one week's guest star. So collaboration is super, super important. On the left there, you see the spreadsheet. We go ahead and list out the participants for that week. Hopefully they put the ancestor they're working on so that if somebody else comes in, wants to work on that same ancestor, they can go, oh, somebody's already got it and pick somebody else. So we're not stepping on each other's toes and working on the same person. Now on the right hand side, you'll see the G2G post. That's our genealogist to genealogist forum post. And there we have a new post each week for the guest star. We go ahead and post out who the great grandparents are and then people can post if they found a brick wall, if they found something interesting. Sometimes they just ask a question. There's a lot of activity that generally goes on in those posts. And then our final way, of course, is Discord. This is our most important one because we are a global site. We have people that are working at different times all around the clock. And this is our live chat. Now we go in there and we have people that sometimes we're just cheering them on, hey, way to go, great job. You can go in there and say, hey, I need a second set of eyes on this record. I'm not sure if it's for the right people. And where else can you get four or five people to just stop what they're doing? And they all look at it and give input. It's great. We get translations in there. There's people that just sit there and wait for others to ask for newspaper articles and they go out and they look for those. There's a lot of communication that goes on through Discord and we really, really need it. And then the last thing with our collaboration is we wanna remind, and this is for the participants themselves, that the captain for the week, of course this last week has been Karen, this upcoming week is Cheryl Hess. The captain really is the person that steers the whole week. So they take care of any issues, they answer questions, they help out the participants if they need it. And also there's supposed to be the sole contact for the guest. Now we don't want 15 people messaging the guest saying, hey, how did you get that date for that marriage? I don't see a record anywhere. We ask them not to look at their trees on either site, the primary site or on Wicked Tree. So we're kinda hoping, if you have any questions like that, you'll get them to the captain and they'll be the one person that will be the go-between and go back and forth and forward to any of those messages. I guess we will go into our top five now? Yes. That's exciting. Our exciting top five. And it is because we had some new people. And the interesting thing is we've actually had some Wicked Tree challenge guests that are star guests that are paying it forward or just trying to figure out how the system works. And so we have some new people in the top five this week. Now the most valuable player than one I was talking about with the highest score was Donna Bowman. Again, yay Donna. She's been rocking it this week. And then so she's number one slot. Melanie Doherty is a future guest. She was number two. Maggie Inns, number three. Amanda Eadies, number four. And Andy Stubb is number five. So thank you to those. Yeah, thank you to those top five. And also to everybody else that worked on the challenge though, you know, it takes a team. So then we'll look at our overall stats for the week. Yes. And this is where we get all of the numbers that we have. So now on the, do you have the link for that, Sarah? Oh, it didn't, oh, it didn't change. Hold on a second. I have done the screen sharing. I'll start reading while you play with it. Yes. Yeah, I did the wrong thing. Our week 24. Now we have total points and that's the total points each person got. So Donna, they had that 129. With all the participants together, it was 564. And trust me, there are more things that go on that don't get points that people work on. So if they're on this list, they were doing something and all of it is equally important. Now there were actually 304 people added to the tree. So some of these may have been on your primary tree, Coral, but out of the ones that we worked on, we worked out from the great grandparents. So not that many of them are, a lot of these are new. Out of that 304, 68 were direct ancestors to you. Now 236 were those nuclear family members I was talking about, that siblings, children. You know, we wanna do a whole family approach so we can find every record hopefully that we can for that family. And then out of the bounty points, this is our big number. That was the 10 points each for every brick wall ancestor. And you, these guys broke 26 brick walls. So that's 260 bounty points. Yeah, incredible. There were 795 unique profiles edited. And so total edits here. And once again, this is not counting the space pages and different things that people did. Total edits, every time somebody opened up a profile, they added a source, they fixed a date, 3,101. I just, this community is incredible. And yeah, I'm always amazed. That's fantastic. Yeah, always amazed at what they do. Yeah, it's all. Now I guess to show you some of the brick walls we found and all the other fun stuff we found for you. And I guess Karen will take it away. Karen. We had a big week and we're looking at, we asked you to add your tree to the eight great grandparents. So we'll tell you what we learned about each of them. We looked at the Beecham family and saw ancestors working in the Civil War. Henry Beecham was the one we talked about last week. He was in the 87th Illinois Infantry and he was the one who died at the Siege of Vicksburg, sadly, just about the day before that ended. Corral till this last week. And then Jesse Lay was also in the Civil War with the US forces in the Sixth Cavalry. He got discharged for medical reasons and both of his wives were lucky to, or not lucky because they were widows, but they received a widow's pension based on their Civil War service. We have the line for... Right. Beecham, yeah. We've got some of this Charlotte. Yeah, just one more. Okay. Yeah. And... I didn't know anything about Karen. Karen's wife is from the school craft family, Ali May. And there was quite a lot of work done on this line and we're pretty sure that the school crafts were pretty active at the time of the revolution. We don't exactly know whether they were at that battle of Point Pleasant that was, oh, even before the revolution in Lord Dunmore's war, I might have to ask Amindi or someone to chime in and tell us about it. But a bunch of the school craft sons were all on the rolls of the militia there during that time. So they must have played some part in that campaign. Asstian school craft himself was one of the folks who was killed by Indians, as they would say, in the conflicts between the Native Americans and settlers in what now would be Buchanan in West Virginia. We go home. But we think that the school crafts might have originated in Germany, these ones who wound up in West Virginia, that school craft may have been an Anglicized spelling of a German name, although that school craft name comes up in Yorkshire as well, where it's associated with a village there named Shoals in Barwick Parish. And then actually for Lord Dunmore's war, you see that where there's the conflict that we already know happened a lot between the Native Americans and the colonists. But Lord Dunmore's war was in 1774 between the colony of Virginia and the Shawnee and Mingo nations. So still more native versus colonists than pre-revolutionary. Yeah, plenty of conflict as we continued to expand Westward all the time. And then we, do we want to move on to the read? Coach is showing the well-written biography first. Oh, yes, thank you. Yeah, all the work that folks have done. Now here's a line where we added 22 new ancestors. Oh my God, from our millbook. Wow. Yeah, and these were on the Lytton line. This is where I'm closest to Coral right now because Caleb's brother wound up settling just in the next county over the border from where my father was born in Tennessee. So that's where in our connection finder that we like to play with, Coral and I are closest. Now on the Lytton family, John Richard Lytton was an officer, a lieutenant in the Revolutionary War. And he was a lawyer and a juror as well in Bodator County in Virginia, whose name I had probably just mangled. So all the Virginians can correct me. And John and Sarah had at least nine children and there's like a hundred new direct ancestors on this red line. Very good. Yeah. Okay. Well, 22 new ancestors, that's exciting. You have a lot to go through so far, Coral and Caleb. That is very exciting, you know. Yeah. And the last great-grandmother on the Beecham side, Mary Catherine Phillips, she, we discovered a second great-grandmother, Mariah and Evelyn, she used both names. She was born Duval and married to Phillips and then married to Worthing. She and her sister, one had married a son and one had married the widowed father. And they were just having a disagreement, doing the laundry and doing their chores. And the sister just whacked Evelyn with the broom that she had in her hand during the argument. And Evelyn just fell dead.  And her sister was just mad with grief when she realized what she had done. Crazy. Yeah. Like kids don't bonk your siblings on the head. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And as we see on the slide here in the back on the preview, yeah, on the line with the folks. Are we still on the broom there? So, Jasper Worthing. The next one, yeah. Okay. He passed the broom. Yeah, there you go. That one. Okay. Yeah. So here's a Patriot ancestor. So Mariah Evelyn was born Duval and her ancestor Louis Duval is considered a Patriot by the daughters and sons of the American Revolution because he signed this oath of allegiance. That's how I joined this wealth through someone who was spared from fighting but did need to sign the oath to the United States. Oh, right. Cheryl's saying when you had a manual washer, you would lift the clothes out of the water with just a broomstick because it was so hot and that's probably what she had in her hand when they... I felt kind of bad for thinking that was a little bit serious, but, you know. Yeah. And continue. Okay. So Louis Duval is a Patriot and there may be more that we'll see and often we'll start by just picking the one that is the easiest to document, the intervening generations, but you've got a big head start here. And why don't we move on to Kay's side? And the first one, which is the next slide and the first one we considered was Ernest Graham who is the big brick wall. And it's not made any easier by the fact that there were other Ernest Graham's in the same area. We talked last week about the guy down in Black Hawk in Iowa who married Nora McKee that we didn't think was Ivy's husband, but we were really intrigued by this fellow. So Ernest and Ivy married in 1911 and this fellow in 1913, we really think it could be him. He's in the newspaper for Bigamy because he has, yeah, he has a wife and a baby in Mitchell, South Dakota. And he's, yeah, in 1913 and he's absconded to Port Pierre and brought another woman to the judge to marry. And when, yeah. And when he was found out, the article is really neat because he claims, you know, I was intoxicated and it was just a joke. It was a joke. Very. It was all in fun. Yeah. And that sounds like him. Great. Because you told us last week that Ivy said he was in there too well. And that was like all she had to say about him. Right. Yeah. So I have to wonder, like who else named Ernest Graham leaves a baby in Mitchell, you know, they're. Right. So we were looking at this. Yeah. So here's the free space, the page that folks made and they were looking at the signatures, the one on the top. I'll take you on where you're leaving. Yeah. The one on the top, remember, you said that it looked like Grimm on the marriage and then there was this other guy, Ernest Alfred Graham and his signature doesn't look too similar to me. His ease are completely different. They're different. I mean, you can, you can change some things, but yeah, I don't think those two are the same man, but I think it's really worth considering whether this victimist is him. And of course we didn't find the leads to who could be his parents, but we sure had some fun. I think it just about everybody took a turn looking at them and seeing if, is he the one, was it Lydia Downer that he brought to the justice to marry when it was found out? So he was ordered to pay support to his wife and baby, which we wonder if that's Ivy and Kennedy or if it's a completely different Ernest Graham, but boy, have we all been intrigued. That's a better lead than I've ever found. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So it really could be him. Yeah, we were just- The time was about right. Right, I was kind of making out the timeline of this fellow Ernest Graham who had some land there. It's got the public land designation with the township and range and he writes a mortgage to someone and then she defaults and he must have bought it back at the auction or received it back. So just trying to figure out the timeline of all these Ernest's and how we could help figure out which one is Ivy's infamous husband. So we didn't have- It's probably the biggest Ernest here. So we didn't have a question that you were asking like how does Wiggy Tree handle being married to two women at the same time and having children with both of them? Yeah, we just enter it. I mean, my own family is recently as a great uncle where we just enter the children and if you're legally, if you're married or if you're living as partners, you just show two spouses so the software doesn't prevent us, right? So yeah, they were talking about in the chat that probably like it'll pop up as one of the suggestions for the Wiggy Tree Plus that like, oh, look, these two people were married at the same time, but then we have the, in our biography and our research notes, we explain why this is correct. So we need the sourcing and the documentation. Yeah. And I think the only other thing that would be an issue is if say the first wife was pregnant and then he goes in and pregnant the second wife because then the system's gonna come in and tell us, no, those children were born too close together. Yeah, it's true. Although we may ask our developers that that only happens on the wife's side. Right, because we have Chris popping up and saying, oh no, someone fathered two kids at the same time and that didn't cause any errors in the software. Yeah, cool. I just wanted to talk about that real quick. There's suggestion reports because Lucy has a brother and sister born a month apart and so it pops up as a suggestion that you should look at and clarify. Yeah, well. That's an interesting, there's always something scandalous in your history. You always. Oh, we all think. That's what makes the research so much fun. Wow. Yeah, so we didn't make a big breakthrough on earnest but Boyd did we on Ivy. We have so many ancestors extending back on this line. Your fourth great-grandmother, case third, Sarah Ensign, her lineage extends back to James Ensign who was part of that Puritan Great-Mart Gratian and he came to Connecticut in the early 1600s from the town of Rye in Essex in England and he was one of the founders of Connecticut. Yeah, so. Yeah, and looking on his profile, you could see that picture that's showing for his profile picture. That that's actually a memorial to the founders. So that actually has his name on it as one of the founders of Hartford, Connecticut. Oh my goodness, we have to go see that. Yeah, and now you have to go to Connecticut. Maybe go in the fall. The ancestor was a founder. Maybe some fall foliage and some ancestral homes. Absolutely, yeah. Right, and just this was a line that really got extended back and sometimes we'll tie into a line, a bunch of ancestors that are already on wiki tree but we'll find that they're not sourced as well as we would like. So then we spend time just working through the generations and trying to find those source records. Right, there's a lot of new names on there. Wow. Oh, we loved reading. I think of Arthur's shoe. Yes, have you read about his marriage to Joy? We found one about Joy's parents thought she was awfully young to be marrying. She was only 18 and a half and Arthur was coming up on his 28th birthday and so they decided to look and they got the thing. We didn't know that. That's cute. I love this article, it's really cute because they had some friends, Dale and Francis who were a couple as well and they arranged for the minister to be ready and I think Joy and Arthur came from Tacoma over to Seattle and so they were getting ready for their ceremony and thanking Dale and Francis for coming and agreeing to be their witnesses and Arthur says to Dale, well, I do the same for you and then Dale turns to his sweetheart Francis and says, well, now's a good time and she blushed and must have agreed because a couple of minutes later they were having a double wedding. So cute. Yeah. That is so sweet. Honeymoon, the home that Dale and Francis planned to live in in Seattle. Yeah. Yeah, Brema Joy. She's where I got my middle name, yeah. Oh, that's where you're from. That's where you're from, yeah. And her sister Beth Coral is where I got the coral from. Oh, wow. And that was a sweet- Oh, I love hearing stories about her. Story and then, but on Arthur's side of the family there was a crazy story as well.  That's on the next page. His, he was born, Harry Severn's. His stepfather was- Okay, we know the Severn's one. Yeah, and he is, yeah, so he's your second cousin three times removed. So must be, well, I'm trying to calculate in my head that must be Joe Kay's second twice removed. And so he was one of the later Western outlaws. He was just, an article talking about him said he was just so cold blooded and in the criminal lore of the country there's no record equal to that of Harry Tracy for cold blooded and their desperation and thirst for crime. Jesse James compared with Tracy is a Sunday school teacher. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that he committed a number of murders. He and his best buddy escaped from the penitentiary in Salem, Oregon, I believe. And there was a lengthy manhunt and all the while his grandfather, James Quick Severn, Julia's brother was at the end of his life and everybody was struggling to try to keep him from finding out because Harry had been a favorite grandson of his and he just really wanted to be a tough. He wanted to be a bad guy and he succeeded. They say, a lot of the news reports were very sensationalized, but they say that James did learn about what was going on with Harry and he died from the shock from a great broken heart. Harry had been such a favorite grandchild of his. This is really so sad. So yeah, that's a new story. Romance and crazy outlaws. And so here's another what we call free space page. Most of the pages on Wiki Tree are about an ancestor or a living cousin. But some of them are about topics. And so this one is about these outlaws of the West. Trying to find, I already got his name. So there we go. So Harry features in there and he is documented on Wikipedia and other sites as well. There's a museum, the White River Museum that believes they have the last pistol that he was using. And just crazy the way people trying to just get souvenirs. I got some hair from the man that he killed. Just the news was so shocking. They love to sensationalize the Wild West out now. Oh yes, yes. And I prefer the romance of the previous page and don't try to multiply our murderers. Oh, so we moved on to Joy Cooley, Arthur's wife and learned some about, it's fun things you already know like Fern Thorpe who lived to be 101. She was helped to figure it out. 102 actually. Oh wow. She died just shortly before 102. Okay, so she was just about... Yeah, I'm also 102. We like to say 102 because it gives us hope. Yes, yes. And new parents were found for people on this line including Martha Harger and Lovina Sanford. Yeah, so Martha got more than 75 direct ancestors that should be new to Coral's Tree for sure. And Lovina gained more than 200 new ancestors this week. They both had lines that were going way back into England. We put Joseph Jenks on here. An ancestor and deputy governor of Rhode Island and he made it to 84 himself. So he got longevity in the family. Joy's grandfather was Giles Cooley and he was a busy, busy Republican politician for over a quarter of a century. We thought this was cute when they were supporting rather for D. Hayes and William Wheeler just the stories of how like you think a giant flagpole is something modern, but it's not. They have articles about they're popping up 90 foot pine poles and running up their Hayes for president flags. And here was this antique lantern because this is the 1876 election and just a glass that you could drop a paper into. And so they made up a pretty paper with Hayes and Wheeler on it. Yeah. And so he was fun to read about. And someone else from the family going much further back in time was Elizabeth Batchelder and her father Robert way back into 1540 in England. And a sixth great-grandfather. We talked about all the revolutionary patriots but a sixth great-grandfather, Johann William, Wilhelm Pease or Pace. Pace, yeah. Yeah, he was a loyalist. His property was confiscated in New Jersey and he was in the New York jail during the revolution. He went up to Canada and settled in Ontario and got crown land. Most people got one lot, which was 200 acres. And just last Saturday was United Empire Loyalist Day there in Ontario where he settled. And so if you want to double dip, you can look at the Daughters of the American Revolution and the United Empire Loyalist Association of Canada and both sides of the revolution. Right. Now, as we did all our research, we love to remember our veterans and learn more about how they served. So we added loads of documents and information about the many service members in the family. And so you can check out all these profiles to learn about their time in service. Now, Mindy, how did we do with all these brick walls? You mentioned quite a few and you're the mistress, the grandmaster of the charts. Oh, for the actual, yes. These are the, this is the brick wall chart that we work off of. Now at the start of it, all of the yellow places that you see are where there was a potential brick wall that we could break down. And, you know, we always understand with our guests that sometimes it isn't that it's a brick wall like you're stuck, it's that you haven't had time to research that line enough. And anybody that's serious about family history and looking at ancestors, it's so hard, especially for us on Winky Tree. I know the professional genealogist, all that says the same thing. They work on everybody else's tree but their own. So, you know, what we count as a brick wall, you may not and that's okay. But for us, we work off of any line that does not have parents attached on your primary tree. So it just kind of shows the legend. Once somebody claims a bounty point on that G2G post, then I go in and I mark it on the chart that they claim that bounty. So all those little dots you see are all of the brand new brick wall ancestors. And you'll get a copy of all this so that you can look through it. It's a lot of fun. Okay, thank you. And then this is your final ancestor, and, bleh! Ancestor George. And it's all nice and colorful. And you can see there's areas where, you know, people kind of clumped in and worked on certain families more than others. But you have a lot more ancestors out there in your branches now. You know, wow. That took us a lot further back there. Yeah, so I hope you're excited about reading everything that our team participants have found for you. We have a lot of work to do. Right, my first Wild West person and also our first person who wasn't on, you know, a patriot in the American Revolution, our first person on the other side. I like that. That was... Thank you so much. You guys did an absolutely fantastic job. More so, it seemed to be the same thing I'm finding. It's easier researching mom's side than dad's side. Dad's side is more elusive than mom's side. And my maternal side was much, much easier because I have a lot of information that she didn't add to her tree yet. Right. The Cooley and some of the shoots, all those several of the things that you said I hadn't heard before. Well, hopefully there's all kinds of good discoveries when you start climbing through the branches. We're gonna spend the next two days just looking at everything and seeing all the new. We've decided, I decided a while back that we can't find Ernest Graham and we can't find his parents. We can't find any information about him. I figured, because he was, my grandmother did say he was a drinker, near do well, he was a drinker. So I think he just went into a bar one night and just got into a bar fight and they killed him and threw him out back and dug a hole and nobody ever heard of him again. You never know. Maybe Ivy would have been next head. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, she did miss him. Yeah. And I guess we'll wrap up for Coral. We have any final questions or comments before we segue into Melissa? No? No, no, no. Oh, I think it would be.  All right. I just wanna thank you all so much for doing this, choosing me and helping me work on my trees. Thank you so much. Thank you. Now I'm gonna go spend more time learning about wiki tree and my family. Yay. Yay. Thank you, ladies. Thank you so much, Coral. Okay. Bye. So we will go and start on Melissa. Oh, hold on. There we go. So I will give a brief introduction on Melissa and then, Melissa, you feel free to add anything that we missed. So Melissa is a certified archives manager and public historian, works at the Houston County and Tennessee archives, a lecturer, teacher and writer about genealogy research process, researching archives and record preservation, has a popular blog, a genealogist in the archives, has a bi-weekly column, entered the archive lady, also writes history pieces for her local newspaper and is a professional genealogist currently taking on new clients. So taking on clients. And that is you, Melissa. Do you wanna add anything or? No, I don't sleep as it is now. So I've been researching my family history for 31 years. So it's like some of your previous guests, I've watched the show, have said that I'm a professional genealogist in 2004. And so since I've started working on other people's trees and genealogy, I don't get as much time. And so I'm very excited that someone else is gonna get to work on my family tree. And I'm hoping that it actually jump starts some things for me. Maybe I can eke out some time, five minutes, 10 minutes to actually do some research of my own. But no, I'm really excited about doing this. This is gonna be interesting. Well, we're really excited. And we do have some questions for you to ask to kind of, I guess to give a little interview and see where you want us to work on and all that. So I guess to start. So you said you've been researching genealogy for 31 years. What got you interested in genealogy? I actually got bitten by the genealogy bug at a funeral. My husband, one of my husband's ancestors, family members had died. And we were at the funeral course where I live in the South, I live in Tennessee. And so we have visitations and then we have the day of the funeral. So we were a visitation the night before the funeral. And I was noticing, this is a 1990 and I was noticing a lady walking around with a spiral notebook talking to everybody. And I thought, what is she doing? You know, I'm kind of being nosy. So I went up to her and I asked her, I said, what are you doing? And she said that she was doing genealogy research. And she says that funerals are a perfect time to talk to the family members. And she was writing down. So I asked her, I said, can I take that home and copy it? And it was for my husband's family.  So I did. And that's actually what started me on my genealogy journey. That's awesome. Okay. And out of your years of research, who would you say is your favorite ancestor? Well, since we're talking about my family, I do my family and my husband's family. I'm one of those that I researched anybody and everybody connected to any of those families. And so my husband actually has more interesting characters than mine, but my favorite ancestors are my grandfather. His name is Cody Lee Lamaster. He died when I was three. I never met him, but the stories that the family have told about him have always intrigued me. And he is someone that I wish I had known. The other person that I actually as my ancestor that I only met recently in the last year or so is Job Curtis. So when I say met, I did not know about him because he's my eighth great-grandfather. He was the one who I got into the DAR with. He's my patriot. He also did not fight in the war. I have a document that says he provided wheat to George Washington's army. So, and I joined the DAR about a year ago. So those two are probably, I have tons of favorite ancestors. I don't, I say I don't have any boring ancestors. I don't think anybody has any boring ancestors.  I believe anyone who walked on this earth has a story to tell. And so, so I don't have any non-interesting ancestors. That's awesome. My, I'm not a part of the DAR, but I could from it's the same thing. Like she's sold horses to people in the revolution. So, so you kind of mentioned a few, do you have any interesting stories to share about your ancestors or relatives that you found out? Oh, I have lots of stories. And my stories, the ones that I gravitate towards are the ones that are more tragic and, and, you know, and not necessarily happy stories. Cause I just think they, they make our ancestors so much more interesting. And a lot of times they explain why they did what they did. One of the stories is my great grandmother, Lula Kunrod Drummond. Her husband, William Sherman Drummond actually had her committed to an insane asylum. My grandmother, who was the youngest of 14 children, which has probably wise, you know, he did that 14 children, can you imagine, told me the story, said that he did that because he wanted to be with another woman. This was in 1940. And so back then the men had all of the power. And so I have the court records where that happened. And my grandmother told me the story of the day that they came to take her and they literally drug her out of the house. And all of her siblings were married and had children. And I often wondered, why didn't they not step in and do something? But the court system was pretty strong. She stayed in this asylum for 15 years. They let her out and she carried around and I have it the document in her wallet that deemed her as cured after 15 years. Wow. And she lived another 15 years after that. So that's an interesting story. I have a couple of, I have an ancestor named Stephen Thaddeus DeBolt. And in the 1930s, right now off the top of my head, I can't think of the actual date. I wanna say 1936. He was found in an alley in Wheeling, West Virginia. The cops picked him up, took him to jail, thought he was drunk, threw him in jail. The next morning he was dead. And so the newspaper accounts think that there was something fishy going on. Even mentioned maybe a mob hit. And so I've talked to a historian in the area and they said that in the 30s, that Wheeling, West Virginia was very, very prevalent with the mob. And so I like to tease people and say, I'm looking for the mob records now. And so being an archivist, I know there's no records that are named the mob records. But the other one too that's really sad that none of the family knew about was that my grandfather on my mother's side, Forrest Cecil Bartram, when he was a teenager, he accidentally shot and killed his brother while they were deer hunting. And so my grandfather never talked about it. My mother never knew anything about it. And so it's one of those things that was hidden for a very long time until I found it. I kind of actually happened onto that newspaper article as I was researching something else. And so he had already passed and so I couldn't ask him about it. So my stories are kind of sad, but to me that's what makes our ancestors come to life. Right, and I agree. And unfortunately some of the most documented ancestors are those ones that have the sad or tragic tales. It's either that or they're politicians. So that they're out there in the news a lot. But that is one of the great things about Wicked Tree is I love that white space we have, like a big white empty board and we can go in and anything we can add, like you said, even to the farmers that helps bring that person alive is great. So- I wanna know those genealogists that, I wanna know everything. I wanna know what they had for breakfast. I wanna know what their hobbies were. I wanna know all those things that are not in those formal documents. I want to know the store. I wanna know everything.  And when did you first discover Wicked Tree? You know, I think I became aware of Wicked Tree when it first came out because as a professional genealogist, you're always looking for resources and things for your clients. I am more of an expertise in paper records and archives, records that are not online. I tend to not do a tremendous amount of online research. I'll do some cursory stuff, but for the most part, I'm digging in records in archives because as an archivist, as a genealogist, I hate to tell you, but not everything's online. So that's where I do most of my research. Okay. Well, so what are your current brick walls that maybe we can bust down? I'm one of those that I don't like to say I have brick walls, first of all, it's not a denial thing. Because of the lack of time of working on a lot of my ancestors, I actually have more brick walls on my husband's side than I do on my side. But I'll just tell you this, some things that I would really like to figure out that I have worked on recently, and I say recently within the last 10 years. My family, the Bartram, my mother's maiden name is Bartram. Some of you may know that name because they were two very famous botanist named Bartram. John and William Bartram. I actually have two books that belong to my grandfather Bartram, right here. I don't think that they're in print anymore, they're hard to find about them. I have never been able to connect my Bartram family to that Bartram, to those Bartrams. And I know that my grandfather was very interested in seeing if we were related to them. So that's kind of one. And then another one which has been even more recent is I have a great-great-grandmother. Her name is Ida Isdador Bonnier. She married a default. Her husband died at a young, kind of a young age in the 40s, in his 40s. She remarried a gentleman by the name of John Talbert Renault Ladd, mouthful. They ended up moving to Oklahoma. Most of my family lived in Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio. They moved to Oklahoma just about the time that Oklahoma became a state. And I found records where they owned a furniture store in South Pulpah, Oklahoma. So I've been trying to find records for that store. I've been trying to find a photograph of the store. And so that's something that's probably the most recent that I worked on. And so you've kind of answered the last question, but I'll ask you anyways. And especially after watching Coral's week, what do you hope to get the most out of participating in the challenge this week? I think what I would like to get the most out of is I want to see what everybody finds. Because it doesn't matter if it's small, big, whatever it is, I'm gonna love it. And I hope that it encourages me or kick-starts me again to start finding some time to work on my own genealogy that it inspires me to do that because I work with clients. I have a full-time job and then I work in the evenings and I'll weekends with my clients. And so, you know, don't have a whole lot of time, but I hope that what they can find will encourage me to maybe find some time. Well, I'm sure we will find lots of good stuff for you, Melissa. We have not let anybody down yet. Oh, I've been watching y'all and just a fantastic, fantastic job, so. We have a great group of people. Yes, we do. I told everybody or when I was contacted, I said, you know, I've been doing this for so long, but a lot of my stuff is not online because I just don't have the time to do that. And so, I was a little hesitant. I thought, oh, I don't want people to go out there and do stuff that maybe I've already done or whatever, but I know you all are going to find some stuff I don't have because y'all are great. Well, we're so excited to work on your tree and we appreciate you letting us work on it and putting it on wiki tree and, you know, delving into it. So, do we have any questions from anyone or do you have any questions, Melissa, in general or any last anything at all before we kind of wrap up for the evening? Now, we would like to know if we can use any photographs that you have on your primary trees. Sure, yeah, yeah, you can. I put whatever I put on line, I put it on there knowing that anyone can use it for probably anything. I know that they're going to. But I share, I'm one of those that likes to share whatever I have discovered, whatever I have collected. I like to share with other genealogists because my family did not leave a lot for me as far as documents and photographs and things. I've had to really dig up a lot the last 31 years. And so, so, yeah, no, I like to share. And then we usually ask about DNA, but I heard you didn't get your DNA tested, so we don't have that. Shocker here, I have not done my DNA. To be honest, mainly it's a time thing, but also because I'm not really hitting the brick walls that would be, for me in my brain, what I would need to do DNA to knock down. I've been able to get pretty good in my family research. So someday I probably will, just to make those connections with cousins, living cousins and things, but not yet. Somebody's asking how Talbert was spelled. T-A-L-B-E-R-T. I believe if I'm not mistaken, Talbert Renault is actually a famous person, because I think I looked it up because I thought, where did that come from? So I think I Googled it or looked for it, and I think Talbert Renault is actually a famous person, but I can't remember why he's famous. Well, that, because apparently Barbara said there's a Tulsa Historical Society who might have information, but it's spelled differently, so. Well, they could have it spelled differently. He usually is referred to as John, a T-R-LAD. They usually do initials with that. Well, unless there's anything else, thank you, Melissa, thank you, Mindy, thank you, Karen, thank you everybody who is watching. Don't forget to like the video, subscribe, thumbs up to receive alerts, all that good stuff, and you can check us out at wikitrade.com, so on Friday, we have our Friday date night with Julie and A-1 usually, where we're gonna date lonely profiles. Saturday, 10 a.m., me, Mindy, and Mags, their weekly recap and a brief update for the challenge, and next Wednesday, same time, same place, we will be wrapping up Melissa's week and seeing what we found for her. So, unless there's anything else, we will probably wrap up, I'll probably go to sleep, who knows, it's getting late here. And with that, goodbye everybody, until next time.


Hello friends, let's work out the following problem. It says solve the following system of inequalities graphically. So let's move on to the solution. The first inequality given to us is 2x plus y greater than equal to 8 and its corresponding equation of line is 2x plus y is equal to 8. Now to draw this line we need to have two points. So if y is 0 then x is equal to 4 and if x is 0 then y is equal to 8. So we need to plot the points 4, 0 and 0, 8 to draw the line 2x plus y is equal to 8. Let's now draw the line 2x plus y is equal to 8 and for that we need to plot the points 4, 0 and 0, 8. Now when x is 4, y is 0 so it is this point and when x is 0, y is 8 so it is this point. Now we join these two points to get the line 2x plus y is equal to 8. Now to identify the region for the inequality 2x plus y greater than equal to 8 we take any point not lying on the line 2x plus y is equal to 8 and we'll check whether that point satisfies this inequality or not. If that point satisfies this inequality we'll shape the region which contains that point and if that point doesn't satisfy this inequality we'll shape the region which doesn't contain that point. Now we take that point to be 0, 0 so if x is 0, y is 0 then inequality becomes 2 into 0 plus 0 is greater than equal to 8 that is 0 is greater than equal to 8 which is not true. Hence the point 0, 0 does not satisfy inequality or the region 2x plus y greater than equal to 8 so we'll shape the region for this inequality does not contain 0, 0. Now this is the region which does not contain 0, 0 so let's shape this region inequality 2x plus y greater than equal to 8 contain the sign greater than equal to so we need to darken this line which shows that this line is included in the solution region. Now the second inequality given to us is x plus 2y greater than equal to 10 and its corresponding equation of line is x plus 2y is equal to 10. Now if x is equal to 0 then y is equal to 5 and if y is equal to 0 then x is equal to 10 so in order to draw the line x plus 2y is equal to 10 we need to plot the points 0, 5 and 10, 0 so let's now draw the line x plus 2y is equal to 10 for that we need to plot the points 0, 5 and 10, 0, y is 5 so it is this point and if y is 0 then x is 10 so it is this point now we join these two points to get the line x plus 2y is equal to 10 now we have to identify the region for the inequality x plus 2y greater than equal to 10 so we take the point 0, 0 not lying on the line x plus 2y is equal to 10 now we see that if x is 0 then and y is 0 then the inequality becomes 0 plus 2 into 0 greater than equal to 10 that is 0 is greater than equal to 10 which is not true the point 0, 0 does not satisfy inequality x plus 2y greater than equal to 10 so we will shape the region for the inequality x plus 2y greater than equal to 10 which does not contain 0, 0 so this is the line x plus 2y is equal to 10 and now we will shape the region for the inequality x plus 2y greater than equal to 10 which does not contain 0, 0 so it would be this region so let us now shape this region inequality x plus 2y greater than equal to 10 contains the sign greater than equal to we need to darken this line which shows that this line is included in the solution region of the inequality x plus 2y greater than equal to 10 so we have shaded the regions representing both the inequalities 1 and 2 and the region in red is common to both the solution regions and the solution region is the region in red and it is the required solution region so this completes the question I will now take care have a great day


Felly mae'r cwrwch ar y cwrwch fy hoffa, rydyn ni'n dechrau'n rhaid o'r cwrwch ar y dychydig. Mae'n rhaid i'r cwrwch i'r cyd-dweithio. Mae'n dwylo'r bobl gweithio i'r cyfrwyndau'r cyfrwyng. Mae'r bobl gweithio'r cyfrwyng o'r cyfrwyng yn gael. Felly mae'r cwrwch yn ddigonol. Mae'r cwrwch yn ddigonol. Mae ydych chi'n ddigonol o'r ddragoi? Mae llywodol y cwrwch yn ddigonol. y cwmwynt fel o'r adrodd o'r cyffredinig, o'r ddamograff ym mwy o'r adrodd i'w ddeithas.  Pan oeddwn i'w digonwysau yma, ydych chi'n gyllid o'r brydau a gynnwysau dyma, mae wedi'n hatchwyr yn ysgrifennu'n 15-25, nid yw y gall ar hynna ymwysau dyma yma yw'r bobl anrefion, ond yr argynnu. Nw'n dechrau o rwyf gynghoru yma, yna lleol o ddysgu cymwyno i ddadw yn ysgrifennu? Felly rwy'n dechrau o rwyf gynghoru yn cymwyno i gyd... Ond mynd i ddim yn roi'n ddifwg yw'r credu. Mae'r ddifwg yn ystod o'r hyn sydd yn fawr. Mae'r ddifwg yn ddifwg yn ddifwg yn ddifwg yn ddifwg yn ddifwg. Mae'n ddifwg yn ddifwg yn ei dda, mae'n ddifwg yn y brin. Felly dy'r cyhoeddiadau yma yn eu bwysig, ond mae'r ddifwg yn y ddifwg yn ddifwg. Rwy'n credu bod ydych chi'n ddifwg yw'r epidemicon, under research and I do tend to shy away from those phrases, but certainly I would described them as a legal alternative to heroin. When people are not having heroin, and when there is no heroin available, people very often take ox pueden or hydrocodone or any of these synthetic opiate replacements. There are even on the international legal priorities mark there are some alternatives like there's just a drug called ODES Methyl tramadol which which is tramadol with just a couple of different functional groups attached. Another drug called H792Y which has killed a few people in the UK already which is a drug that targets the opioid receptors. So yeah, definiteyly, any more questions? Downstage now. I did that this morning. It's a very well-designed and functional site My name on the top right on the corner I'm Mike Powel underneath the settings you can choose to display in 50 different currencies. So they have a currency converter on site. That's the price. In Bitcoins, currently that's about 600 dollars today I think? 400 pounds, something like that. So the Bitcoin story is a really fascinating one. It's one that I think will become very much more prominent in the next few years. Mae'r cyd-ddiadau i'r cyd-ddiadau sy'n ei fod yn y dweud oherwydd i ymddangos y cyd-ddiadau. Felly mae'r cyd-ddiadau yn i gwybod, yn y Cachol, yn y cynnwysau, yn y dweud, i'w gweithio'i gyfnod o'i gwybod. A gyddo'i'n gwybod yma i'r gweithio ei gwybod, ac mae'n gwybod yma i gyd-diadau o gychwyn, sydd yn i gyd-diadau cael ei gwybod. Oni'n gweithio'r cyd-diadau? Mae'n gweithio'n gwybod eich gweithio. pan yn fawr y Cywbeth Fxilio, mae'r ffordd iawn eich gwrth subwysig, mae'r ffordd iawn eich glod, mae'r ffordd iawn eich cyntaf yng nghymru a'r ffordd iawn eich gwrth byw, mae'r ffordd iawn eich glod, felly eich cyfrifost yng Nghymru a'r dark web market. Mae hyn yn ddiweddio'r gwrth. Felly thatas oes y cwysig oherwydd y cyfrifost, mae wnaeth hunan o wybod yn y gwirionedd blwydd, Mae'n meddwl, ac mae'n meddwl yma. Mae'n meddwl o'r US yn meddwl o'r problemau mwy yn Fethan Fethamineau, a'r rhai o'r Fethamineau yma, a mynd i'r Ucaid. Mae'n meddwl i'r US yn gofynu. Mae'n meddwl o'r problemau, mae'n meddwl o'r symud? Mae'n meddwl o'r symud o'r symud o'r urdeunydd a'r urdeunydd, mae'n meddwl o'r symud i'r allan drogau, mae'n meddwl o'r syniad gyda hynny? Mynd i gael y pwarmatid eich llwysgr, ac rhaid o'r llwysgr wedi'i ei blwyddol wrth i ddarlleniaethau'r ysgolwyddiadau a'r rherwydd Ac mae'n rheinydd i gael eich cerddol o drwng ar gwasgu bobl. Mae'n credu'r bobl yn cyhoedd. Mae'n credu'r bobl yn cyhoedd. Mae'r credu yn cael i gyflwynoed ac yn gweld hwnnw. Olygu, mae'n cael ei ddiweddlu'n gweithio'n gweld. Rydw i weithio bod pethwyl yn ychwanegol. Monw'r dweud i'w ddau am wahanol a ddwy blaenol. Rydw i'w ddweud i ddweud hwnnw o'r ddweud i'w rhan o'r ddweud o'r ysgrunegol a gwynhau amgylcheddol a rhan o'r ddweud i'w ddweud cael eu gwneud a'r ddweud lleidol i weithio. A chnynno isio sy'n ddweud â chynnyddiant a chynnyddio rydw i'w ddweud i gynhyrch. Mae oedd yn yr unig a chynnyddio'r parwysu Mae ysgrifennidau yng Nghymru'r Llywodraeth i'r cyd-deithasio, mae Ysgrifennidau yng Nghymru yn ei ddweud am gael'r gilydd. Mae yna'r prynsibol yng Nghymru. Mae gennym ddim yn gwybod y cyd-dweud a'r llyfin. Mae'r ysgrifennidau yng nghymru yn ei ddefnyddio'r ymddangos a'r paradanaethau'n ymddangos. Rwy'n meddwl yng Nghymru, dyna rwy'n meddwl yng nghymru. Mae'r ysgrifennidau fel y credliadau yng Nghymru yn ysgrifennidau. Mae'r bwysig yw'r cymhwyl sy'n gweithio'r cymhwyl yw'r hefyd. Felly, mae hynny'n ddod o'r rhan o'r rhan o'r cymhwyl. Felly, rydyn ni'n gweithio'n cymhwyl. Rydyn ni'n gweithio canibus, ac mae'r rhan o'r rhan o'r canibus yn ynmangorol. Mae'r rhan o'r cymhwyl yn cymhwyl yn cyfnodol yn ymwyloedd o'r cofnodol. Mae'r rhan o'r ban. Rydyn ni'n gweithio'n cymhwyl ar y cyflodau cyflodau. I want to see policy that consults with user groups and the consults with communities and the consults with the medical profession. Certainly, yes, I do think that the medical community had a leading role to play in this, rather than a kind of a justice or a punitive or a prison, or jailing people doesn't keep them healthy, you know, helping them to remove their addiction or helping them to make more rational choices or to make safer choices in their drug use. It will save us money. It will save us money, and it is a more or less problematic approach, I think. That's great news. You made one comment in your post. Yes, sure. Is heroin part of your story? Heroin is part of my story at the beginning. The question was, is heroin part of my story? Heroin is part of my story at the beginning, when I described that heroin was actually one of the first designer drugs. Heroin was created in the laboratory. I outsourced my memory to my book. I needed a consultant. Yes, and so this drug was actually invented. Heroin was invented, believe it or not, as a way to help people avoid addiction. It was to help them wean them off morphine. And so the designer drug industry, it feels like it really came along in the 1980s with ecstasy. That was when that time was fair shoes. But really, designer drugs, a designer drug is just a chemical. It's a chemical that's been worked in the laboratory. So heroin was the original designer drug. And then immediately, again, interestingly to note, as soon as heroin was banned, legal versions of heroin were created with various other functional groups, and benzil groups attached, and protocol groups. So the story of chemists manipulating drugs to circumvent national and international drug control, it's as old as the hills, but it is going to prominence once more. Yes, the first part of your question, what makes a drug legal or illegal, it's really broad and it's huge. Each country has its own drug laws, and then each country is a signatory to the United Nations Convention, which bans the 234 drugs that I mentioned before. So each country has its own drug laws, and then each of those drug laws is kind of different. Now that's part of the story. What's interesting is that, as the internet has kind of destroyed time, space and national borders, the drug laws really don't have much weight. They don't have any relevance. So there are drugs that you can buy in Spain, which are legal in Spain, but illegal in France, in the next country. So that's one kind of key thing that the internet's changed. It's made drug laws redundant. It's made them more enforceable in certain ways, because you can just have them posted, you know? The United Kingdom has like 80 million pieces of posts per day. That's the United Kingdom, or one small island in Europe. Think about that in like an American context. So post the law, the drugs is a key part of this. So that's what makes drugs legal or illegal. It's just the decision of each country based upon, frankly, arbitrary parameters. The next part of your question was about decriminalisation through Latin America. Well, we look at Uruguay, and we see that the presence of Uruguay has specifically attempted to remove marijuana cannabis from the banned list. And he said, okay, let's take it out of the hands of gangsters by selling it at a dollar a gram. Let's sell it for less than the gangsters. Let's undercut organised crime. Now, that's really clever. That's really smart. That's like how, what better way to prevent some of the operating in a market than to take away their profits? And you know, Uruguay hasn't fallen into the sea and society hasn't collapsed. You know, the states of Washington and Colorado haven't ground to a halt because of the recreational use of marijuana. You know, it's...  It's actually cannabis, obviously. Marijuana was what the Mexican workers called cannabis. And so back in that era, the name was used in order to demonise the drug rather than it's being seen as a simple relaxing smoke. So yeah, throughout Latin America, in Mexico they're considered, they have decriminalised marijuana and they have decriminalised personal possession of cocaine and ecstasy. Columbia is arguing for the same and they have decriminalised around those, around cannabis and cocaine. And I think that that will be seen. I think that we'll see a domino effect as each country basically defies the United States and defies the United Nations and puts in place their own experimental drug policy, which, let's face it, is a response to policy not working. In which other area of public policy do we see that it doesn't work yet we persist with it? We don't have that mentality in any other area of public policy. It's like if we were educating people and they couldn't speak French or English at the end of five years in school, we would change the system. After 60 years of the war on drugs, we have more drugs on sale, we have more profits, we have more death and more destruction than was caused before. So we have a policy that's discredited and doesn't work, but we persist with it for, well, who knows why? Yes. Sorry, I've had one from you. I'm going to take one from the guy at the back. Yes. Yeah. You're going to have to really shout. I'm so sorry. I can't quite hear you. Do I think that the popularity of the internet has said that... I'm so sorry. Ah, excuse me. I think that the internet helps communities coalesce and I think it helps create a kind of... a kind of coalition of consciousness. I think that it helps people come together and to create communities. And yeah, I think that that's contributed to this argument. I think the internet has created a smaller world where you can find out about policy in Uruguay, like that. So yeah, I think it possibly has. Any more questions? Right at the back, but you're going to have to come forward and shout it out. I'm going to cry. I'm just kind of curious. Okay. Yeah, okay. Yeah, I think I might have skipped over that bit. I said that I created a new drug and you asked what I did next. I wrote a story about it. I wrote a story. I wrote an 8,000-word story about how easy it is to make and to create a new drug. I mean, I didn't commercialise it. I didn't market it, but I did ask the guy for a kilo. I said how much would a kilo be? And he told me it would be not very much money. If I wanted to, I could have taken that drug and sold it in the United Kingdom completely legally. And I would be a millionaire today, instantly, in the space of probably, I'd say, two months. Completely legal tax. I'd pay my taxes. I'm a respectable citizen. So yeah, no, I didn't do anything for that. It's in my drawer at home. I was going to send it to a different laboratory for the guy's toxicology and poison centre, but I was quite busy over Christmas and I didn't get a chance. But yeah, it's still a home. In fact, you remind me, I need to get it sent. I need the outer house.  Any more questions? Yeah, go on. But very often, sorry, your point was that your question was that I argued that health should have a greater hand in drug policy, but many times people are addicted to legal drugs from hospitals. That's true, but really what's happening there is that those drugs are being diverted. It's not people who are being prescribed them. The majority of those who are addicted to prescription opiates or tranquilizers or benzodiazepines, they're actually diverted and just bought illicitly on the black markets or they're bought from friends or anything like that. So I think it's important to establish in any discussion around this. Nothing will fix everything. No legalisation, having heroin vending machines on the streets is not going to fix anything. Having licensed premises where you can buy cocaine of various purity is not going to solve the drug problem. What it will solve is it will instead improve the situation incrementally. It will make drug policy more rational. It won't stop people taking drugs. I mean, in my book, one of the first things I looked into was the first ever recorded use of drugs. It was 9,000 years ago. 9,000 years ago in Thailand, someone was found that they found and carbon-dated a quid, a kind of a pouch of a stimulant that someone was chewing. They found this in a cave 9,000 years ago. It's a human instinct to take drugs. I would guarantee that everyone in this room was taking drugs today. I mean, there's a vat of coffee over there. Now 200 milligrams of caffeine would put me right on edge. I can't drink three Espresso's. If you were to take all of the caffeine in that jug over there and concentrate into one small cup, it would kill you. If you took a cigarette and you extracted all of the alcohol, all of the nicotine from it, it would kill you.  So it's about dosage, it's about information, it's about behaviour. What we need to do in the future, the drug policy, is to look at behaviour, to look at how people are harmed by their own behaviour, and instead offer them solutions, offer them options, rather than having drug consumption as an illicit or illegal or dangerous activity. Have it as, well, exactly as it is, a consumer choice. It's a consumer choice with exactly the same risks as drinking too much alcohol. It's a lifestyle choice which has the same danger levels as, for example, ecstasy, ecstasy is in the UK, was famously analysed by one of the government's leading positions, and he found that using ecstasy was about as dangerous as horseback riding. So your dangers from consuming MDMA is about as dangerous as going down to a horse. So why do we not buy a horse riding? I'm not arguing that ecstasy is a safe drug, I'm not arguing that it's a great thing to do with your life. What I'm arguing is that we don't have a clear view because we have this moralistic view of drug use, we have this moralistic view of drugs being evil, wrong, or counter-cultural. We've projected a whole bunch of stuff that isn't true on chemicals, they're just chemicals, they're just carbon, hydrogen, oxygen and nitrogen. Around it all, we have this cultural and this kind of, it's just a projection of cultural values onto chemicals. I think strip that away, make it into a health issue, and then from there we can have a rational forward-thinking policy. Danny. Is there a lot of talk about innovation and a few examples to come up, a couple that didn't come up for Portugal? Yeah, absolutely. Can you talk a little bit about those two examples and how you can extend it to your own innovation? Sure, in the early 2000s Portugal had a huge heroin problem. There were open-air heroin markets and open-air areas of the city where people were openly injecting heroin. The Portuguese government decided rightly that this was the wrong kind of society to have with the wrong kind of social scene to have. Portugal basically decriminalised all drugs and they offered people help and health assistance. In that time, injecting rates of heroin use I think have gone down by 80% because people have been brought into a system, brought into a treatment option. And as well as that, what else has gone on over there? Injecting rates have really dropped and also new rates of HIV transmission are down by 80%. So, you know, usage levels didn't go up. Suddenly, all of Portugal didn't start injecting heroin into themselves because they weren't going to go to jail for it, but instead they were healthier. So that's the Portuguese model, which has been to decriminalise and there the impact it's had. The New Zealand model is interesting. It's an experimental step that New Zealand has taken. Now, New Zealand is so far away that you can't really get drugs in New Zealand. People make their own drugs there. They make their own crystal meth. So, the way that the market's developed out there in the last few years because New Zealand's so isolated in the words of one guy that I know in New Zealand he said that cocaine doesn't stop in New Zealand. So, over the years, the New Zealand drug using culture has been very interested in legal highs.  They were so completely over the fact that every time a drug was banned a new one would come to take its place and they couldn't seem to stamp out this game of chemical whack-a-mole. And they said, okay, let's instead put the owners on the manufacturers and now, in New Zealand, manufacturers can sell a new drug, a new legal drug so long as it has actually passed various basic health tests. Now, that's a radical and new innovation and it hasn't actually been tested to the limit yet. It's only been in place for about a year. But it's a brave step. It's an innovation and it's the kind of thinking that we need in the internet era to move the debate beyond legal and illegal, beyond prison or no prison. It's like, let's look at what people want to do. Some people want to take drugs. We need to get over that. We need to just accept that some people sometimes will take drugs. It's been going on for 9,000 years. In the modern context, it's been going on for 50 years. People take drugs. It's not a big deal. It's not something that I think is something that is law-de-treat.  People take drugs in the same way they read books. Not all drug use is problematic, but all drug policy is predicated on the assumption that people who take drugs are addicted or in trouble or any number of things, but there is lots of different reasons for taking drugs and for selling and buying them, mainly economics. If there's any more questions, I'll take maybe one more. Do I speak about psychedelics in my book? Yes, I do. I think that psychedelics are a really interesting case in all drug policy, because if you look at a psychedelic, such as Mesculin, or Salla Cybin, Mesculin extracted or taken from paeoteicactors, it's been used for thousands of years by Native American people, and there have been studies done which show that they actually have higher levels of mental health. Those who have used Mesculin extensively on hundreds of occasions through their life than those who didn't. Obviously that's taken in... It's the context that I think is interesting with psychedelics in the drugs. Psychedelics, just when they're taken, I think, just randomly, I'm sure that they're not very helpful substances, but I think in a ritualistic or a shamanistic environment, for some people and for some communities and for some cultures, it's a positive thing, and we can't argue against that, because the data's there and the history is there. I do talk about psychedelics. I talk about the fact that the new psychedelics which are replacing the banned psychedelics are actually far more dangerous. You can't toxicologically overdose on Salla Cybin.  You just can't do it. You'll turn into a frog first. You can quite easily die from many of the new legal psychedelics which are being sold all over the internet right now. These drugs, which have name-like chemical soups, 25 li MBOME, these drugs are LSD replacements, legal in much of the USA, and the killer people, because they're really potent. So, yeah, my drugs, my book covers all psychedelics from the very first LSD trip and the very first masculine trip by a conservative politician on camera, which is a fun story, right through to Al Hoffman inventing LSD in 1943 and right until 2013. So, yeah, everything's in there. All of that. So that was really informative and really enjoyable. Q&A. Thank you very much, everyone. Thank you for coming.


Oh I'm live. It's been like tinkering about you know on the desk and then it's like boom I'm alive I'm live. Hello everybody. Hello hello. So anyway I'll wait until some more people get in. All my lipsticks come off so I've just had something really yummy to eat. I'm getting all ready to do my astrology and then boom boom boom. So I may have to do this later. Do it later. So excuse me if I put my lippy on. Yeah how is everybody? Hello Josie and Elizabeth. Hello Elizabeth. Hello and Ellie. Hi Ellie. Excuse me I've got a drawing me lippy. Hello Trace. Hi Trace. Okay hi Julie. Hello I'm only back for half an hour. So I must have made a bit of a boo boo on my calendar because I'm just about to go live as I usually do on a Sunday. No problem. No problem and then it did this funny tink tink tink and it's like you have a reading in half an hour. I'm like I don't do readings on Sunday nights. I don't do readings on Sunday nights and yeah so somebody's booked in, somebody I know very well so they've booked in you know honest you know they've booked in. So I've got to go and do a reading in half an hour. So I think it's only half an hour booking. Let me have a little look. What is it? 30 minute reading. Okay so it's a 30 minute reading so yeah I'm gonna have to come on chat with you guys. I thought I'd pick you guys some cards. So who would like me to pick you some cards? I'd do some announcements and then I'll have to come back on later on or tomorrow after doing my teaching tomorrow. So yeah it all went its up so sorry. I didn't realise so I need to go and amend that to make sure that Sundays is not a booking day for me because I've you know we've just done the readings with our lovely Athena and she went really well you know it was amazing. Lots and lots of proof of life after you know so if you haven't seen that go back and watch that. So and if anybody does want a reading with our Athena yeah I highly recommend. I do highly recommend. Okay so just a few announcements while people kind of writing down whether you want cards okay. All right so readings okay if anybody is in Herne Bay area, Kent area, Margay area and you wanted a face-to-face reading with me because I know that I have a few regulars. If you did want a face-to-face reading I do have some time slots because I am going to be reading for my mum. I cannot do any readings for men I'm sorry because it's in my mum's bedroom and she doesn't really want me reading for men in her bedroom and it's not really appropriate but for ladies if there's any ladies out there who would like a face-to-face reading with me then it's Tuesday the 29th of November and the choices are 2 p.m. 4 p.m. or 6 p.m. okay so if anybody would like that. So tomorrow I have my psychic development starting psychic development that is a 10 week course okay it's a 10 week course and I have listed it underneath this video of all the all the different topics that you'll be doing for the next 10 weeks. You can come to one or all of them okay it's entirely up to you. If you come to the majority of those 10 weeks you will receive a certificate okay so so there you go there's it's for any sort of level because if you come in and you'll say a beginner I will adapt it for you okay so I'll give you I'll give the people who are kind of more confident I'll give those a task and then I'd give you a task so it doesn't matter what level you are. I've got my Patreon meeting it was the 24th last Thursday of the month this this time was the 24th of November and unfortunately that fell on Thanksgiving for you guys in America so I changed it to the 30th of November and so it's 9 p.m. UK start which is 4 p.m. Eastern and 1 p.m. I think Pacific isn't it so yes Thursday the first of December we're the five bells and we're going to be doing there's lots of readers going to be doing readings the main one doing readings on platform is going to be a Jill page and then there's other readers as well I've got a mediumship workshop if anybody wants to do mediumship mediumship workshop on Sunday the 4th of December 5 p.m. till 11 p.m. and it's only 25 pounds or 25 dollars okay it's a bargain okay and I have put my price up because it was 20 so I've got up to 25 so yeah if anybody does want to do that and if you are still in a financial situation please don't not come just give me a donation okay that's all okay so don't not come just so there's me little announcements let's pick some cards for you guys let's say hello hello hello hello okay so here we've got some got Josie, Elizabeth, Ellie, Grace, Julie, Carol, hi Carol, Vaughn, hi Vaughn, Chris, just dive in all we need to rearrange the booking with you because we didn't get to see you did we was it was one of you so it was either you or someone else so if if you wanted to read book with me and Greg please get in touch lovely because we did we didn't know where to send you the zoom code I think it was you anyway um it's Carol, Ellie, Dye, Sarah Randall hello yeah so um the sky and Anita and Seeker okay so let's go through these um all right so I'm going to pick you a major R card of cards and then I'm going to give you a little bit in it I'm going to do this quickly because I've got 20 minutes just 20 minutes okay hi Lisa hello Lisa who was first saying yes please who was first he was first Carol was first okay Carol here's yours okay Carol I've got for you the Lovers card okay now the Lovers card if you're in a relationship um or you want a relationship then this can mean the connection it can mean the um higher self um connecting with your um your other half your perfect partner it can mean you know they're working on your relationship that you're in now so if that is the case if you are not looking for a relationship then sometimes we have to find out what it it what it means to you because sometimes that can mean partnerships in business or partnerships in work or having to partner up with somebody to get a job done okay so let's have a look and see okay um so it's coming up with an idea so maybe there is something that you have got an idea about um maybe linking to love um would you understand what they mean okay so it's an idea to do with love has there been a bit of an eruption happened around you Carol is there something that needs shaking up is there something um that you need to kind of look into um so that you can um move forward in your life okay so just feels if I need a new wealth yeah we've got the rebirth card so you've gone through a lot of changes these changes are good changes these changes are going to help you to see more clearly um and to know what it is that you now want okay um I feel that's to do with love okay Ellie okay let's have a look Ellie what you've got here okay lovers card is always tricky it really is so I've got the devil card the devil card is all about mischievousness being naughty okay um being naughty let me have a look at what cards are around it okay for you these are just really fast quick readings okay so you're about to do something that might even shock yourself okay um this to me feels as if it's like sod it I'm just gonna go for it I don't know why um so you might find yourself in a situation where you think um what have I done or have I got into this um you know maybe maybe you end up um you know at a party or maybe you end up um experiencing something that is brand new to you maybe you say you say yes where normally you would say no um but it does seem to be something exciting happen you're ready for a challenge in the back of your mind you're ready for a challenge so the universe is saying okay we'll bring you a challenge it's all going to happen very quickly so there seems to be some mischievousness around you coming up Ellie so there you go die pick a card for die die okay you've got the temperance card so the temperance is about trying to get that equal balance in your life where it's not been um balanced enough okay so let's have a look and see what else is the cards mean okay so um so they're talking about you um and juggling money they're talking about your spiritual pathway and they're talking about love family so it's literally across the board where you're having to be that person who is grounded that person who is the one that can that can um I don't know sort out people's problems or issues and you know and sometimes it's like I just don't want to keep doing this um but um it is part of your nature it is um so yeah the Hierophant is that you're a good spiritual teacher that you're making differences with people around you just little things that you say little things that you you know communicate to other people um you know the way is to do sometimes people learn by the way you are okay you're going to be doing something different with finances there seems to be juggling money around okay and we've also got a new beginning somebody new coming into your life who is going to be make a significant difference in your life um this person is uh intriguing to you um you don't know them yet they're brand new um so look out for them that's what I see die Sarah Sarah Sarah lovely Sarah okay okay Sarah well um linking with your teaching and your development here I've got my study learning card okay and concentrating on one particular area in your life um and this particular area in your life it's like it needs to be focused on um because some big um opportunity is going to be coming up for you this opportunity you've worked hard for um the time has come that 2023 is going to be a time for you to really forward and really take on um this new opportunity um this is the four of ones um is where you're focused you're ready okay to do with your ambitions I can see that there is um I'm seeing gardening around you so I don't know why they're bringing in this as well um is their project maybe in the garden or something that also you are going to be tackling um so yeah it feels as if there's kind of like your teaching um changes but there's also changes in the um like DIY household stuff as well they're showing me um so yeah um busy times okay busy time but you're um you're enjoying it it's stuff that you want to do rather than stuff that's put on you okay we're just um so Dice said I try not to hit anyone with my car yeah you don't want to be doing that no no no and you really don't and I temperance um just as long as it doesn't mean I have to stop drinking well you know everything everything in um moderation isn't it really that's what they say don't they everything in moderation so I'm trying to get through as many as I possibly can okay but I can't promise but I'll do it do my best okay so Julie okay let's have a look Julie so Julie we've got this card which says that you've been kind of um it's like putting yourself in a box to repair um to do that last bit of so although I know that you're celebrating because you're divorced you're celebrating um but we still have to do that shedding of the old it's repairing yourself um when you go on to new pathways um and this is about kind of um you know when you're thinking too much um you're dissecting things too much and maybe there's a need to kind of just take a step back um and just make your life kind of um less um complicated so it's like take out anything that's complicated and just go step by step by sort of slow it right down as what um they're feeling for me um your love is coming so you don't have to do anything you don't have to chase after anybody or anything because it's literally just going to turn up right in front of you this person and it's like clicked and you'll just meet them and I just saw an image of them you're in an outdoor space like a could be a car park or something and I just see this person um who is basically tall dark and handsome around you yeah so um I know that's typical but you know that's it Chris would you like a card fix it Athena did do great didn't she she did Chris for you okay so I've got the star for you we've got the strength and we've got the princess of pentacles um so when I look at these cards I'm seeing that you're a very strong person you're having to be quite strong at the moment I feel that you are at a point where you could probably just give up um and you know not go for those dreams and those goals but because it's like I'm always having to do things um on my own or I've got to be independent or I've got so much you know I need some support is what I'm feeling um and you're not getting that support so it's like if I take on this wish um or this dream will I have enough time energy power inside me to actually fulfill this and to do it and the energy here is yes you do go go go um there is absolutely nothing stopping you look at these two cards look that's not saying it's time um to take up the reins of your own life and go for your wishes it's time Chris okay Von for you okay Von outspoken okay so there's going to be a few things that either you or somebody close to you needs to get off their chest it's been storing up a little bit and it's like the uh the volcano is going to erupt I'm afraid um I feel that you um you know some some words um that from the heart and something from the past as well is kind of creeping in um and you're having to deal with that you're having to understand that um there are certain things that trigger you there's certain certain things that trigger your partner um and uh all of that mixed up together along with stress um that's what kind of happens so I do feel that this needs to be needs to happen so that you can both um move forward okay but it's like you know when it's like there's an emotional hurt that keeps being prodded it's like all that hurts I wish they wouldn't do that all that hurts I wish they wouldn't do that all that really hurts you know so it's something it's a reoccurring issue that just needs to be sorted out but after that it's all good okay after that it's all good um sometimes we just need to have a little bit of a clear out understanding truth syrup time and off you go all right so trace okay how am I doing got seven minutes okay trace trace boundaries it's all about boundaries with you making sure that you have your boundaries up making sure everybody knows where they are with you would you understand that somebody has overstepped those boundaries um a person close to you note they're telling me they're going to um so these boundaries will be kind of um your defences are going to be pushed down um and this is going to it's going to cause you to to think to yourself now do I sort this out um do I confront this or do I let it go if I keep letting it go is it going to keep coming up again okay um there's something to do with travel plans and then cancelling travel plans um travel and cancel travel and cancel and that needs to also be addressed so that you can be more prepared okay so just taking my pain killers okay sky loving sky here we go it's for you sky sky everything is upside down there seems to have been a bit of a fallout so um I'm hoping that it's already happened and not going to happen um but it feels as if there's a little bit of a shake up um that needs to get sorted out there's a feeling of being rejected of being not treated with respect somebody not not wanting to hear what you have to say it's like you're trying to get your words out you're trying to tell them what's what um but you're being shut down and shut down and shut down and I do feel that this this frustration needs to be sorted out it will and it will with love okay there's going to be um um a lovely energy coming in this is to do with um okay I'm not going to put a trigger on I'm not going to put that it's to do with work or love or anything else sometimes there's a little bit of all of it um if I'm not a hundred percent sure sometimes it might be you know and kind of things are kind of shaking up here and shaking up there and shaking up there but then everything then is okay um so yeah there you go sky um it will be absolutely fine you've got the love card you've also got a celebration of love lust so seems to be something nice happening in love life coming up um Anita have I done yours Anita I don't know if I've done yours okay anybody else who's asked for cards um you said on message you would send the code there on the second on the second okay so trouble is it's like because you're just diving here we forget the name of you that's the trouble um so anyway I'll send you another Greg's on holiday with his daughter um at the moment and so um so he's with his family so he won't be doing anything any read until um in the um next week or so okay so we will sort this out all right um hi Shaq tea hello um so Anita I don't think I've done yours Anita I don't think okay all right so I've got four minutes guys four minutes Anita so these cards are not not making it easy for me because they're just going everywhere so Anita okay so there's somebody who is has got a religious background and I'm feeling as if there's going to be a bit of difficulty with this now this could be somebody that you know it could be stranger but I feel as if they're just asking you to put your shields up um don't take on board any of that crap you don't need to um they have their set beliefs um you know you are the way that you are you know um and it's okay for them to have theirs but nobody should shove one shove their beliefs down another person's neck it's not it's not good and so I feel that there may just be a need for you to kind of go stop um enough and it may may take them kind of a little bit back does that make sense with you doing that but your boundaries you know boundaries have to go up okay I can see that you're going to have to do this with fun and laughter um there is some fun and laughter coming I'm seeing some sort of a DIY project or changes in the house like furniture and stuff and I'm hearing the laughter the absolute fits of laughter where something goes wrong something doesn't go right um and it's all kind of chaos okay and somebody got problems with their taps at the moment in kitchen or bathroom so I'm seeing taps issues with taps hi Haley um so Shetty for you I've got two minutes Shetty I've got the flirtatious lady she's a flirtatious public bubbly person she puts the front on she says everything's fine when sometimes it might not be I don't like to worry people um there's an energy of love around okay so looking out for a little bit of flirtatious banter is coming up for you um maybe you're missing this and maybe you're calling that out to the universe and saying come on guys I need a bit of this I need to know that I'm still fancied I need to know you know even if you're in a relationship perhaps it's with your partner you wanting them to notice you um there's a little bit of overflowing of emotion okay with that so it's like you're needing a little bit of TLC tender loving care Shetty okay Haley so Haley um we've got the temperate card for you this is about the balance trying to make work rest and play doing an equal amounts of each making sure that you are enjoying your life that you are not in the process of it all being about everything else and not about you you're in a trial to say mommy can we come and play can we do something that's fun I want to dance I want to sing I want to do silly things so turn up that music dance around your house get out of those jammers or get out of you know put your makeup on do something that makes you feel good and builds up your confidence because you need a kick I don't know what they mean by this and that's what's coming if you do that okay the sunshine look at that in a child thing there okay so yeah in a child time what do you in a child will do oh we got some spam spammers spammers spammers okay okay so I don't have time for any other ones I'm really sorry I've got to go Seeker Elaine hello Donna Hill hello um who else Sally hi Sally oh thank you thank you um I haven't got time to do any more I'm really sorry Anita I think I did yours just now I needed didn't I um yeah so I'll come back later on either tonight or it'll be tomorrow and I will do um do some more I'll do some you know I'll pick some more cards before I start the the astrology how's that okay all right bye for now everybody take care