The following is a presentation of TFNN. The Power Trading Hour with your host, David White. Call now, toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER>. Now, David White. As we return to another excellent edition of the Power Trading Hour, the S&P is up 40, NASDAQ's up 268, NASDAQ, I mean the Dow's up 47. And of course, it doesn't matter where you're at in the world as long as you're here at the appointed time. The following takes place between 2 p.m. and 3 p.m. And what do we have going on today? Well, we are up a little bit on the S&P. We haven't gotten it all back. Is this just a bounce in a downtrend? I think so. The problem with short, being short, is that you have to sit through a bunch of days like this. As I said before, it's kind of a, you know, you get three steps back all one day and then you get a couple of steps higher and then three steps down. And that's kind of the bear market out there. It's not always going down and it gets a little bit better. Everybody, hope springs a turtle and then guess what? You get clubbed again. But I don't think we're done with with the weak earnings cycle or at least the response to it. I think that goes on next week. I was looking for kind of the weak part of the market to come on. And of course, we had a couple of big bounces, probably because everybody got bearish before they came out with earnings. I don't think they would have moved as much. But of course, everybody got snapped thinking that if the fascist book got a little bit of a cold, in fact, they kind of had a bowl of the other yesterday, but if they were that bad off then snap would have to be even worse. And of course, once everybody decides that they want to get on one side, Mr. Market is more than willing to take them to the cleaner. So continue to watch when everybody decides that the market is problematic. But I look for abject depression to say that you should get out of a bear market. I think first time I really thought about it a lot was Jesse Livermore's book, Reminiscence of a Stock Operator. In that book, he says if a sudden, what is it, sudden depression, sudden, I think that's what it is, sudden depression goes around the entire street, then it's time to start looking at covering. I don't see that as anything. Everybody was still talking about buying stuff. They were a little bit more nervous this morning, but I didn't see the CNBC throwing the kitchen sink in on the end of the world. But can we kind of meander around here? Yeah, but I think we're gonna continue to see these occasional, maybe once a week, maybe once every two week, big moves lower. And it's gonna be a real challenge to stay short, but over a number of days, probably the trend is lower. You can call me today at<PHONE_NUMBER>. You can always email me at path at tfnn.com and some have already. And anything else out here? I think that's about it. Eddie wants to know where Apple's going to peg today. I do not know. I've been working on something else and I haven't run the numbers. But let's take a quick look at it and see if there's anything there. To do 173.75. Just take a quick look at the options. APL for today. See if there's anything. By now, you probably should have a fairly good analysis of historical data profile options. Okay. Spirey for today. So you've got 40,000 options right now in the 175s. You got 13,000 on the 172.50s. Generally the lockup is on the 172.50s. So, yeah. You've got a lot of, a lot just higher. 127,000 at 170, yeah, yeah. Is that right? Yeah. 127,000 at 220, yeah, 17, yeah. Is that right? Yeah. Open, oh, is that different? That can't be right. Maybe they got these columns back. Open interest, I show is 13,000. I show volume is 127,000. Those have got to be backwards. So we shall see, but to me, the action all looks around that 172.50. Trying to get rid of that. 175, those look like they're probably already baked. 170s, got about 14,800. So don't know, but I can't believe that volume is right. It's 127,000, maybe it is. I didn't see what it was doing earlier in the day. But maybe you can email me. I just don't have that up in front of me, but if you just look at the options numbers right now, where's the biggest volume? And that's at the 172.50s. And that's just gonna tell you probably what they're going after today, to more likely 172.50. Although our last on Apple is, what is that, 172.50? Yeah, 172.50. Now, generally all they need to do is get within a quarter of that. So you'd say 172.75. Generally on that, it's about a quarter, maybe 30 cents, is close enough to get the action they need. We're gonna go to Al and Winter Park. How you doing? Are you there? Yeah, I'm here. Okay. What do you want to talk about? I've been looking at ANY, Annie, for the last few months and I don't have a clue of what this technology is about, but I do like what they're saying about how they're progressing and huge projections and the stock looks good right now to me. Okay. You had a big Gartley pattern develop. I don't like this big long leg off to the right. You've got a bounce and it ends volume today. Can you hang on? Yeah, yeah. Okay, Paula will review this. I don't understand it, but maybe I will buy the, I'm great though, we'll be back. Are you grinding in the market, but seeing little to no return or are you a successful trader simply looking to make your job a little easier? Learn to take the path of least resistance with David White's powerful trading newsletter. David White is an accomplished trader whose deep understanding of technology and the markets allows him to consistently find and share winning trades. Support and resistance define the ranges in which stocks trade. 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The biggest problem is not the cost of this mining equipment. It is the electricity to run it. And there's a lot better, mostly better hardware close and made closer and shipped closer to where the electricity is the cheapest in the Nordic countries. So not a big fan of that. You should look for a big discount on any Canadian companies. I don't know if you listen to me and talk about the connect discount. If you really have somebody that's smart, they're gonna come to the United States or get hired away and get a lot more money. So as soon as the company starts to get hot, all the employees get poached and it's always a problem with Canadian companies, especially with the taxes and the way they've got everything set up, everybody wants to come to the United States, make a lot more money. So I don't know about this. I certainly, if I was gonna get involved with this, I'd go to places where the electricity is absolutely the cheapest. And I thought these guys were in Toronto. Not very cheap electricity there, I can tell you that. I had an office in Markham. Yeah, I thought I heard you say that's why I called, yeah. Yeah, I'm not a big fan. They're really getting fairly repressive with their government too. So, I don't know if there's a whole lot of reasons to be in the Canadian company right now until maybe they decide that they like business more than they say they do right now. You know, can you get a dead cat bounce? You can, let's take a look at it here. I mean, you've retraced from the last tie out here, which is just under four bucks, what is that tie a day there? 378, you retraced 62%.  So let's take a look at this as just a straight retracement here. Let's get out a little bit. You know, if Bitcoin continues to do well, I'm not exactly sure it will. But just on a chart reading basis, you've got confluence at, what is that? $5.63 to 602, which is kind of fairly wide, but that's where that gap is from the 16th of November. That came down on almost 15 million shares. You're up today on 51 million shares. So it's nice, it is a sign of strength. You need the same to close over. What is that? Really over $3.78. So you're still 78 cents from that. But that would confirm the bottom. So you've got to give up a lot on this one to begin. Are you long already? No, no, I'm just thinking about buying it. Like today or Monday? Yeah. I mean, the time to buy it would have been on the gap up this morning. So that would have probably been the only time that I would have seen any kind of risk reward. And still at that point, it would be a gamble. You know, if everybody's all hot for Bitcoin going higher, I'm not exactly sure they are. It does have a nice bounce today. But, you know, you've got, you know, if I just looked at it as a chart, didn't know it was Bitcoin, that confluence level at about 563 would be my target. But that may take a couple of months to get there. Yeah, okay. Okay, well, yeah, I'm not looking for a long hold, just short. Yeah, well, that would probably be the play for me to get the risk reward right. You'd probably want to be in it so that it did go to 563. Right? So you've got a fairly decent amount of risk here. Although you got a good day, huh? Sure. But, you know, I was trying to connect that the Bitcoin, Bitcoin's been beating up so bad, I suspect the countertrend rally and I was... You know what Jesse Livermore, you know what Jesse Livermore said, rings true to me. Yeah. Stock's never too high to buy or too low to sell. It can always go lower, it can always go higher. So, but no, not a bad one. You would expect this to more than likely, if it's not just a couple of day wonder, you would expect it maybe to come back down to the low a day. So, let's say 275. If you could get into that area, that's probably where I, you know, look at buying it and it would have to hold the low of the day today, which is, what, 250. Okay. No, that sounds reasonable. I've been looking at the chart for many, many days. So, yeah. Do you have any fundamental reasons why Bitcoin would go higher? And this is not a... There are no fundamental reasons with Bitcoin. It's all auction. It's all based on, you know, exuberance of, you know, millions of people who don't understand trading. But that's okay. You know, Bitcoin probably will bounce one more time before it falls apart. So... Okay. So, that's the way I feel. On a chart basis, I was probably a little bit more bearish when I started than I am now. But, you know, risk reward at 275 looks good. Could you get that on Monday? Yeah. That'd probably be where things would line up. And then, of course, any close below 250 would be, would say that it's going to consolidate out. Okay. No, I like that. Yeah, I'm going to go with that. I appreciate it. I really do. Okay. Thank you so much. Bye. Yeah, I'm not a big Bitcoin fan, just assuming that it will one day be exactly like the tulips and be worthless in a couple of days. Yeah, you know, and, you know, JP Morgan's coming out with their own banking Bitcoin, and that's going to stay stable and never move in price and be used for trading. The other banks will probably jump on. So, it'll kill every other Bitcoin out there. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. So when you, so when you can, not when you have to be back in a minute. Having fun trading the markets, but having trouble finding like-minded individuals to discuss your trading and investment ideas with? Become an Apex Predator in the trading markets and join the Tiger's Den Trading Room only at tfnn.com. The Tiger's Den is an exclusive trading room where successful traders from around the world tend to exchange trades and ideas. Join the den and surround yourself with the sharpest minds in the trading world. 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And in my opinion, the first five or six years kind of interesting. Then the descent into evil. And yeah, kind of the algorithm finally was developed to generate narcissists and a lot of other stuff. But yeah, always the issues with a false outrage. We're going to go to John in Philadelphia. How are you doing, John? Hello, David. Thanks for taking the call. Glad to have you. I hope and look see into home-building equities. Probably most simply by looking at two ETFs that contain those, ticker symbol on those are ITB and XHB. And those price patterns, I'm going, I'm looking at like the weekly chart going back 18 months, the weekly chart on both of those and the weekly charts for the big home builders that are listed in David using interest rates and possibly a slowing economy and a more top way back. Oh gosh, what was it, May? Yeah, it was May 10th. And now this decline in team area making lows repeatedly that I can envision because I can buy it here with starter. I take a loss and that loss is small and maybe I catch a good rally. So that's the background. What do you think? Well, you certainly had, if you're watching on Tiger TV or in the den, one of the things I dislike and kind of my theory is that if you come down on more energy that you went up on, that one or two things, you're going lower or you're going to consolidate for a while before you put in a low. So either one of them means that they are probably not worth trying to buy the low on. Now on this one, you have a higher volume low at 65.81, then you did it the last one that was 3.7 million shares back on October 6th. On my power law vector indicator number, you get 4.3 on the way up off that October 6th low. For the low on January 28th after it came down, you had a 5.6. So you had about 22, 23% more energy on the way down than you had on the way up. You had a high 3 million shares on December 13th. You retested that with 2 million shares. You didn't quite go above it, but it was close enough to be 30% or actually 33% light, right? So everything on this chart says bearish. Not anything really says bullish. The one thing that you can get in housing and previous housing patterns is that when interest rates go up, a lot of the people, you know, the first tick or something, they'll say, hey, I need to get in before it's all over.  And you may have already gotten that up to 70.07. I would say more than looking at this. I mean, there's such a high correlation that you want to look at the TLT. If you, for those listeners not paying attention today or just wandering in on the bond market, we had a three-year high in the 10-year today or a four-year back to 2019. That's three years. So a whole lot there. I got somebody... I actually have somebody wanting to buy puts in them that just emailed me. You know, I'm thinking that the TLT breaks through next week. Maybe we gap down on Monday. So I certainly don't think that today is any time to go after it. I would say that the lows will probably come in as we challenged either 134.78 or 131.95, the two previous lows in the TLT. Now, that may be muted as the Fed is not quite done buying bonds, but they're almost there, right? And of course, we had the ECB yesterday saying that they won't buy any bonds after, I think, the first week in March.  I don't see a whole lot out here, other than maybe a little lighter volume today. Could you get a bounce on Monday in the TLT? Maybe, but I think everybody's running for the exits. David, thank you much for going through all of that on the ITB, the ETF for Home Builders. And as I listened to you, just an assessment of TLT and interest rates. The bottom interest contract with its price action, the current price, that fits with what you were saying on the TLT. 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That's tfn.com and hit Watch Tiger TV. Comment in the dead about the jobs numbers. I actually started working on those this morning. And there's no way those numbers were right. I'm going to say that someone went to whoever at the Bureau of Labor Statistics went to the Madoff School of Accounting on that, because you can't be that far off unless you deliberately want it to be. And my guess is the word came down is we don't want anything that looks good because we don't want the Fed to raise rates. So, well, Jim, now of course they've already said what they were going to say and so we better fix all this before it looks too bad. But I don't think you can be 300,000 off on a jobs number. I don't know how you would. I tell you what, if I was off that far I would feel so ashamed I'd have to quit. I don't think that you can phony the number that much and not have any shame. So that's my belief on it. But kind of like I did kind of look through it and they're basically saying that they were six standard deviations off. And I don't know how you get six standard deviations off. They never have been. So that's it. Yes, the Madoff School of Accounting had 20 years of exemplary service in one bad day. And that was it. But I remember the guy that talked about that. He said, yeah, having his record was the same thing as batting 958 in pro baseball every year for 10 years. It just doesn't happen. But no, I'm not thinking that we're going to continue to have a lot of this stuff. It becomes incredibly hard to remain short in a market. Where you always think that maybe it's going to come back. Maybe it's come back. And we talked about this last week. And that is that you've got kind of a rule of alternation. And that is if you get a sharp move up, that's really linear three, four, five days. And then you get these really jagged moves on the opposite side of that. Same thing on the way down. If you have a straight down move, then it's very jumpy, huge moves, makes it almost impossible to stay long.  And you think the end is there, then it hits a bottom. And then you get these things that you can't hold on the upside because they're all over the place. And that's kind of, I think it was a prector thing where he called it the rule of alternation, making it just miserably hard. But generally if you go down kind of linearly, you can draw a line and a lot of differences. Then the next one is incredibly jagged on the way up. But yeah, that's it. Our new sponsor, the Madoff School of Accounting. Dewey Cheetam and Al, attorneys. Okay, anything else going on out here? Probably the big thing is, you know, Friday you're going to have light volume already. We're doing about 7.4 billion shares. So it's not like a lot of volume came in, either at the bottom or the top, but I'm not a big fan. As I said, I'm just waiting for that other shoe to drop. Somebody in the den just brought this up. So I did look at it and that is our investments. They got a little bit of a bounce coming up out of here. But probably a good chance you're going to retest that 64. 35 sooner rather than later. On the TLT, what I'm looking for, like I said, I think we're going to get a big gap down. You really have a gap right here at about 148 to 146-ish. You have a gap on the way back up that was fairly large from about 140 to 142. That came back down. My guess is you're going to get one or two more big gaps down in this to get back into that low. 129.60 is the March 18th low of 2021. You all have 132.46 is the May 12th low. Now remember already on the 10-year, we made a high that's the highest since early in 2019. So this, I think of anything that TLT is behind the curve. And of course, the TLT pushing that flattening curve. So we're going to continue to look at this. And of course, this is the not the tail. This is the dog. The equity markets are the tail. And the bond market is at least 10 times even now bigger than what the actual equity market is in dollars. So when you see a little move in the TLT of a dollar, just figure you had a $5, a 4% move in the S&P. Because that's about historically what it's worth. They are moving much faster than that these days. My guess is this thing is just going to melt. You're going to have some big gaps down. And eventually you'll get settled in for some kind of low based on whatever the Fed decides is the time to quit raising interest rates. And again, this is going to be a tail of two cities this year. They're going to be stocks that do very well.  And its customers don't care a lot about what the interest rates are. So companies like Apple, are they affected a great deal? No, they've got lots of cash. And their customers are buying something that's $1,500 maybe at the top end. So are they really worried about a little higher interest rate? Probably not. So not so bad. But if you're talking about somebody buying a $1.5 million dump truck from John Deere, or actually the other one, Cat, Caterpillar. Or if you're talking about somebody buying a million and a half dollar implement for their farm, now they're paying, you know, two, three, $400 more a month for that bigger thing. You know, anytime you start talking steel, something heavy, something that you can't move without a crane, they do not like or tend to like higher interest rates. Question, if anything's going to happen with this bill making its way in Congress to encourage more people to, or more companies to build ships here in the United States, there's a reason why everybody left the United States. And that was the EPA literally chased them out. Intel kept some contracts because they were making stuff for the military. But there's a reason why everybody else left. Pretty much everybody else left. 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They're all about the same thing and that is, what do I see for the close out here today? Let's take a quick look here.  Yeah, still thinking 172, 51, 72, 75 for Apple. That would be pretty good for wiping out a great deal of those calls and not making it worth the while. So probably a tiny bit, let's call it 50 cents, to the downside before the close. That wouldn't be a big deal for Apple, but certainly would wipe out a lot of value of those calls that are sitting out there that expire today. And of course, more of a question about what's going to happen over the overall indexes. We had a huge pop, I want to say, I don't know, an hour ago or something, an hour and a half ago in the advanced decline line. And that kind of, I think, probably was the buying climax for the day. I don't think there's a lot of downside. I just don't think there's a lot of upside for the day. But yeah, the volume is going to be a little lighter on that side. Don't have a lot of people that were buying puts yesterday. So that continues to make me think if we didn't have a bunch of people buying puts today when I see that data tonight, and I'll come in with my newsletter Monday morning talking about it, then I'll still think that all we're doing is having some two steps forward, waiting for the three step. Now I wouldn't even call it three steps. We're going to call it the long jump back and two steps forward. And the long jump, long, anyway. So probably that week, but I'm looking for the big gap down. Maybe that happens next week. Maybe on the back of the ECB. Maybe several things are going to get it to happen. I'm still waiting for that big gap down in the bonds. Eight, seven, seven, oh, done. So what you can out when you have people be back on Monday, same back channel, same back time.


So next week we've got two indoor events two of the biggest indoor events to finish the season And we're going to the Basel indoors or the Swiss indoors. It's a big event on the European indoor season Of course, we've got two weeks left of the season We've got some players that are playing some big names that are back for the first time in a little bit Some players are also pulled out. So let's go to the withdrawal list to the withdrawal list only one person with Drew Nick curious he has pulled out. He has a knee injury. He's not playing for the rest of the season He is out for this week and next week. Okay, so here's the draw You have eight seeds in this one and no one gets a buy in the first round, which is kind of interesting So Al-Qaraz finally get we get to see him again. He's back number one seed. He's had a Mixed run of form since the US Open he plays draper in the first round. That is crazy That is a tough first round winner of that match plays either Vanders-Anshel or Manorino in the second round Then you got Kressi versus Strikker or Striker winner of that match takes on either Baez or the number five seed Karina Buster in the second round So that is a tricky draw for Al-Qaraz. Draper in the first round is not fun Now Draper was suffering from cramp last week. So we'll see if he's better from that But man tough first round for Khalidos second section of the draw now You've got Felix Oshelia Seem the number three seed taking on Hoosler FAA in some good form on the indoor courts of late Winner that plays either Fakina or Kichmenovich in the second round Then you got a qualified taken on public winner of that match takes on either Ramos-Vanellas or the number eight seed Museti in the second round. So interesting bit of the draw here, you know, Museti's in form FAA's in form Both of them playing finals today. So that should be fun And of course the winner of this part will play against Al-Qaraz possibly in the semi-finals bottom half of the draw now You've got Diminor the number seven seed taken on Runa. They just played a semi-final in Stockholm so a little replay there straight away One of that match takes on either Brooksby or a qualifier in the second round Then you got Mulchan taking on McDonald winner of that match takes on either a qualifier the number fourth seed Chillich in the second round. But yeah, Diminor, Chillich, Runa I mean Runa and Diminor have been in good form both playing well last week in Stockholm. So Interesting to see how this one plays out and the bottom section of the draw You've got Roberto Patisserie-Gouda number six seed taking on a qualifier winner of that match takes on either quarter or Murray What a first round that is quarter. He's in a final this week and Andy Murray, but we know who he is That's a huge matchup. Then you've got Nakashima taking on Goffan winner of that match takes on either Stan Vavrinca Or the number two seed Kasparud man What a first round that is very tough match for Rude in the first round against Stan the man This tournament is very exciting very very exciting You've got some great matchups potentially there and of course this section of the draw will take on the Ozealia seam section in a semi-final. So Rude versus Ozealia seam could be a semi-final very fun Matches potentially next week in Basel, but who's gonna win the tournament? Let me know down in the comments below It's hard to not pick FAA. I don't know This is weird to say because usually we don't say Felix is someone to bet on to win a tournament because he Doesn't won that many but the last couple of weeks FAA's been the man So maybe go with him for this before he's possibly a third tournament in the row if he wins today But let me know in the chat. Let me know in the comments below. Who do you think's gonna win in Basel this year?


This one might be just for the the visual people here, but I'm at Bella's 3d and Let's see Helen ton is telling me to look at this tablet and Steve is going to watch what's going to go on So we're going to scan my face Okay And slowly to the right within 15 seconds you will get a perfect face 15 seconds face. Can I need to take my glasses off? Okay, now I can't see anything, but you'll tell me what to do, right? Yes So start now Wait until you can recognize your face and Probably yeah, there you go. Okay, move closer and then follow the instruction All right says capture complete Oh, we're not gonna put my glasses on here you go. We'll put my name in here Do I get I get a copy of this 3d scan? Oh, that's gonna be fun I'm putting in my my email address wait P O D F E E T dot com All right, we're gonna see this safe Hope I spelled that right Okay, we got a picture of Allison's face here Oh, she's changing the lighting on it She's zooming in. Oh, that is so creepy. I had some shadows. Oh, look at that Wow, that is so freaky in 15 seconds 15 seconds. That is crazy So she's moving a light around and we're seeing my rather creepy face look at that. That's amazing That was in 15 seconds. So this is Bella's 3d. You can pre-order it for 499 and How do people find the company? They're finding it through you No, but I mean online I would go to Bella's 3d.com. All right, very good. Thank you very much, Ellen


While the craft fair at the Northern Lights Casino in Walker has become the place to be for artists who want to show off their work, reporter Cheryl Moore has a look at the event for this week's In Focus. Twice a month in Walker, crafters will set up shop right here at the Northern Lights Casino. This craft show here at Northern Lights, I've done twice a month now for almost three years. There's so much going on and there's so many fantastic vendors here and there's different things every single sale. Every single item is handmade and each crafter has a different niche. Green catchers, I go out and harvest the willow in the winter when the trees are sleeping and then you scrape the bark off them and then I do a little curl work in the middle. Each one has a crystal and then you get the feathers, some chickens. We come up with new and different ideas. So one of the examples is we take and we make roses out of Tootsie rolls and caramels. I design my own cut, it's got 145 facets and I've been faceting gemstones now as a hobby for 40 years. A lot of the crafters do their works as a hobby, developing their skills over time and no matter which day you go, you're almost guaranteed to find something new. My husband and I do wood crafts. He cuts things out with a scroll saw and if they're painted, I probably painted them. I started making jewelry a couple years ago. My step is all one of a kind. I never make two of the same thing. I just do cribbage boards on the side just for something to do. They're all handmade, each one's different wood, takes about five hours to do one. This is a good venue for us, it's a nice location, it's indoors, no worry about the weather or rain or any of that kind of stuff that you get in the summertime. This works out really well. The crafters say the fair is also the best place to meet people who share a common interest. When you retire you can't just walk away from that. You've got to stay in connection with people somehow and this hobby has done that for both my wife and I. It's like a close knit family that has all adopted one another. So you'll have a friendly atmosphere and the vendors are willing to bargain with you. Reporting in Walker with this week's In Focus, Shromor, Lakeland News. And the crafters are usually held on Wednesdays. If you enjoyed this segment of Lakeland News, please consider making a tax-deductible contribution to Lakeland PBS.


Hello, everyone. So we're just about ready to get started here, and we're going to continue with the theme of trust and automation, and thinking about how we can improve the systems we use around scholarly communication by automating some of those processes to achieve trust. So I'm Christina Drummond. I know we're still working on getting some slides up here, but I'm the executive director for the Open Access Book Usage Data Trust. And it is my honor today to be here with this panel to talk to all of you about a workshop we actually held just a couple of days ago immediately before CNI. This conversation is one around how do we think about and improve our ability as an ecosystem here in the United States to share usage data and impact metrics for publicly accessible research. For those of you who heard the talk yesterday around public access mandates and everything coming out in the Nelson memo, I know I'll speak myself. I was struck by watching the NIST presentation because I felt like I wasn't alone. For OA books, we've been working since 2015 with some funding from the Mellon Foundation to look at some of the challenges when you have these open research outputs, books in this case, and they live in multiple places and you're pulling usage from multiple places. How do you aggregate that? How do you benchmark that? How do you exchange it in a trusted fashion? Long story short, it's complicated, it's time intensive, and you have run into issues with data quality. And we wanted to know if we weren't alone. Is this an issue just with books? Is this a shared issue with other outputs? And that really became the basis for this workshop, which was supported by the National Science Foundation. So today it is our honor to bring to you some of the findings and some information about what it was that we discussed. I'm honored to be joined here by my co-organizer Charles Watkinson and also Neal Stern, who traveled from Europe to help share some European perspectives on how they're handling this with infrastructure as well. So with that, I want to hand the mic to Charles. So thank you very much, Christina. I'm Charles Watkinson. I'm the Associate University Librarian for Publishing at University of Michigan and Director of the University of Michigan Press, and this year's President of the Association of University Presses. So I'm going to talk about the objectives of the workshop and the perspectives that were represented at it. And we do have, for after the event, we do have a copy of the program that we had for the workshop that you're welcome to take if you're interested. So the first thing that we really wanted to do was to capture an understanding of the current state of public access usage and impact reporting, because the reality is that there's a lot of projects going on. There's a lot of interest in this, but it's incredibly dispersed interest. And there's dispersal based on the sort of outputs one's talking about, so books, journal articles, data sets, and also an interesting area of other stuff. And so there are lots of people thinking about this in different spaces, but they've not really come together. And the other part of this is there's a very strong conversation going on in Europe about these kinds of issues. And it's not really manifested in quite the same way in the US. And also there are conversations going on around the rest of the world. So the aim of this is really to try and get a snapshot of our current state. The second part here is explore how to achieve fair usage data. And Christina has put here Fair and Care to Share, which may be my new favorite motto. But essentially these are the different values frameworks that are being used to think about data and the sort of the principles and the ways we want to think about the behaviors we want to adopt around data. And of course, Fair will be familiar to you, but Care is introducing the perspective of indigenous knowledge. And also I think introducing the concept of the human into data that is otherwise really fair is more focused perhaps on the machine. But the human aspects of this activity I think are right at the heart of what we wanted to explore because the last session was all about trust. And this is a space also with usage data where trust is absolutely central. And then the third area is develop recommendations. But what we wanted to really do is open up the conversation. We wanted to get out there some nascent recommendations with the hope that we can really nudge a discussion that needs to happen and is currently happening in silos, which is odd because really it's a convergent conversation. So it used to be that we cared about different things when we looked at usage data for journals.  Books were like this one-shot thing where you bought the book and then you kind of had it sit there. Essentially all of these are now converging around the idea of public and open access and how we move from usage information to an understanding of provable effects on the real world. So in other words impact and how we get from here to there. So participation brought in perspectives from a number of different parts of the landscape, data infrastructures, consortia, publishers and platforms, funders, standard setting organizations. What was interesting in the room is everybody had multiple hats. So there's a lot of overlap between these perspectives. I'm now going to pass back on to the next slide. Thanks, Charles. And while you do that I do want to just elaborate for those who aren't familiar with the care acronym. You know, we're used to fair, findable, accessible, and reproducible. The care part really comes back to control and authority and ethics. So making sure that there is a shared common good, making sure that there is responsibility and ethical use of that data. And when we think about usage data, you know, I'll share a quick quick before we go into takeaways as I mentioned in the workshop. I don't know, raise a hand if you were following the TikTok hearings in Congress. I might just be the only data geek who really love that stuff. But long story short, the conversation around TikTok being used in public institutions is around usage data, is around geolocation data and who gets access to that data. Now we're talking about usage data with respect to scholarship. And so I just want to pause and note that these are the same things from a technical perspective and that we're trying to think about well, what does that mean when we're talking about trust and ethical use at scale for usage and impact metrics. The takeaways from this gathering, this day-long gathering, we really ask folks, well, what's needed and what's next? And there were kind of four general themes that emerged. The first really was one around discovering what our shared vocabulary is. What are the exact definitions when we say usage? What specifically do we mean? Which, you know, is it a glossary or they're crosswalks? We have a lot of existing standards in these different spaces that we refer to. And so making sure that we have that common communication framework to build from is going to be key. Second, and perhaps I like to think of this that you already heard of as a data geek, a policy geek, but making sure we have a solid understanding of the compliance elements of this, the contractual elements of this, and what that means in the global scholarly communication space, where, depending on where your author may be, depending on where the publisher may be, laws around IP addresses, and if their private information, for example, may differ. Third, we really had a conversation around those values and principles and how we need to understand what our shared frameworks are around data stewardship for usage data. I'd mentioned earlier that, you know, with respect to publicly and accessible scholarship, the information about how that data or how that scholarship is used could become sensitive. Is it something that needs to be as open as possible, but as controlled as necessary because of potential negative impacts and unattended uses that could happen down the road? So having this conversation across scholarly outputs or across our different communities around what those values and principles are, specific to how we steward that data and what the ethical use of usage data is is something that came out. And then finally, there was a, I would say it's a chicken and egg. It's always hard when you think about systems and infrastructures to figure out where to start. And I have to credit Tasha Bell and Cohen from Counter for introducing not the MVP, but the MLP, the minimum lovable product. What is a solution here that not only makes our lives easier, but we love it so much, we're willing to sustain it, to invest in it, to continue using it. And so we had a lot of conversation that circled around what does that mean? And I'll talk in a moment towards the end, but with the book space for the OEI usage book data trust, we've been leveraging some of the frameworks coming out of Europe that has been heavily funded by multiple programs through the European Commission to develop something called an industrial data space. And they're looking at how do they create interoperable ways for both public entities but also commercial entities to share their data through infrastructure and to provide that data governance layer in the same way we would think of the internet today where it just works. We want to simplify data sharing agreements, contractual agreements, all that processing and connecting and data curation and normalization that we have to do today around usage. And so we're exploring that on the book side with the IDS model and in this workshop, it became clear that as an entire ecosystem, we can take what is being piloted in this very narrow way and learn from it and perhaps see what is extensible and what isn't to this greater conversation. So what we're now going to do is we're going to go into some initial reflections, just personal reflections from the three of us on what we heard two days ago. And it is very initial because it is just two days ago. So this is our dinosaur reactions, our gut reactions to what we heard. And Niels is going to start. Thank you, Charles. And thank you for inviting me to this panel. I'm really delighted to be here. And I'm Niels Stern. I'm Executive Director of the OAPEN Foundation and the Director of Open Access Books, two not-for-profit organizations dedicated to provide open infrastructure services for monographs and edited collections. And I was brought in also, I think, to give a European perspective on what this is, how we manage or how we try to deal with these challenges. And just to give an initial simple explanation of how it works from our perspective. So OAPEN is providing services for open access books as an infrastructure. We are operating globally, but we are based in a specific country in a specific field. Now, we are also part of a larger infrastructure called OPRAS, which is providing support to scholarly communication in the social sciences and humanities. So a broader perspective, also including other output types than books, so journals and data and other things. And OPRAS, again, is part of a larger interoperability framework in Europe called the European Open Science Cloud, the EOSC. So in this way, you can see there are different levels and ways to sort of connect initiatives. Things are not perfect, but it's work in progress and maybe that can be inspirational in these conversations. So I was very honored to be part of a conversational workshop dealing with U.S. national explorations on this topic. And I think it was an overwhelming workshop and I had a lot of takeaways and a lot of things to digest. And still, after just like two days, I'm still trying to figure out how to take this down. But I think the initial takeaways that are also presented on the slide here, I can report back to some of those or actually to all of these four, but just start by saying that while we're talking about a national exploration exercise, it's, I think one of the key takeaways was that it's actually an international challenge and we need to find international solutions because there are definitely actors in different places that we need to come together. So again, I really like this way of breaching between continents and of course, think of it more globally as well. And also, a lot of focus was on books, which of course I like because that's my field, but I also think it's because there's a lot of unsolved challenges in the field of books still. And this brings me to the first sort of initial takeaway listed on the slide here, so education and advocacy. And quite simple things like definitions and common language about things were discussed. So for instance, in Europe, we talk about open science as all inclusive, all disciplines, including social sciences and humanities, which I've understood is not the case in the US. So this is a small thing, but it does make a difference. Also the definition of the book, the academic book. In Europe, we have 24 different languages and we have very different diverse practices of book publishing and so we need to agree on what are we actually measuring? And this is not a simple exercise, but we respect this, what we call Biblio diversity, which is very meaningful to what we do. And then we also need to understand what are we measuring and why are we doing it? So what kind of impact, and Charles was talking about real life impact, so how do we get there? So we need to ask the stakeholders in the field. I'm the scientific coordinator of European Project Currently, which is convening research funders also to discuss what kind of metrics do they want to evaluate their policies? So we're trying to help them in developing policies, implementation of policies, but also in the impact reporting. And then of course we need to identify the organizations that are needed to solve these challenges. So there are many small organizations that are vital to the community and we need to make them come together to solve this problem. The next one is about applicable law and policy and I was a bit hesitant to talk about law at this stage and I think that was also a takeaway from the workshop that could we try to talk about trust first and not go down a legal potential rabbit hole? And I think what we're trying to achieve is basically to find a way of having a shared space, a shared data space for exchange of usage data and as long as it's transparent and accountable and open we can hopefully maintain a level of trust that will make contributors feel confident in what we propose and try to keep it as simple as possible. I think that was also a takeaway and we have the tech in place. We have a book analytics dashboard in place that is currently up and running that is another Mellon funded project we're part of but we need this clearing house. There's a whole aspect around that which is what Christina mentioned. And then on the values, I mean absolutely important that we sort of come to alignment around our big values, the vision and I think the Nelson Memo did a good job. I was very inspired when the European Commission came out with its work programs seven, eight years ago really showing how open science, open innovation can help solving some of our big grant societal challenges. But all that visionary, all that narrative has to boil down to also principles for good data stewardship. So there has to be connections in both directions. And then finally, I think what came out as one of the best terms of the day was the minimal lovable product. So a nice way of phrasing an MVP. And I would just finalize by saying my personal minimal lovable project would be to come up with a simple visual articulation of a data space for open access book usage reporting so that we give clear overview of what are we actually talking about? Who are the actors? What is the direction that we are heading towards? What are the gaps? So we can share that with you, with other stakeholders and get feedback and improve our minimal lovable product into something more sustainable, which will then fit in some way, have a better chance of fitting into a larger sort of research infrastructure framework and be useful for scholarly communication across the board. Thank you. And we agree that I would go next. And so education and advocacy also really was interesting to me. I think that we are seeing a lot of invest in open infrastructure. Niels has some leaflets actually, which are very, very interesting about the invest in open infrastructures for scholarly books. And it was just announced today that our facilitator, Catherine Skinner, has just been hired by invest in open and has the invest in open has received an a million dollar melon grant. And I think that's very exciting. So as we think about investing in open infrastructures, let's not forget the usage infrastructures. So that would range from the identifier suppliers. So Chris Shillam from Orchid was with us. But it also goes through to some entities that we just assume are sustainable, but may not be. And one of the particular ones that came up in the workshop was counter, project counter. And of course, all of us as publishers and libraries are relying on counter stats to a greater or lesser degree. But we learned from Tasha Mellon's Coens, who's one of the videos, you will share a link in a moment, who wasn't able to attend in person but did a sort of a testimony by video that counter has 0.5 FTE and paid staff. So the whole infrastructure we're relying upon to actually analyze usage stats has half a person paid at the heart. And that is a pretty scary thing. And Tasha has just taken over as director and she's managed to get another half person to be this education and advocate person. And I do think thinking from a university press perspective, it's really striking how our members, EU Press' members who are mostly very small publishers, many of them don't know how to create a DOI. Many of them don't know what an orchid is. And these, as we heard from the national, from the public access reports out yesterday, a DOI is absolutely central to being recognized by a federal grantor, right? So that's really scary. So we've got a big gap to bridge and we really need to think about these organizations that we rely on and their health and sustainability. The second thing is really around values and principles and applicable law and policy. And that's this point about trust is core. So Christina and I work together with Charlotte Lair, also in the audience and a number of representatives on this open access e-book usage data trust project, which is funded by the Mellon Foundation. There's a parallel project called the Books Analytics dashboard which is closely connected but is deliberately kept separate from, so there's an arms length separation. But the Books Analytics dashboard is really interesting in that it's done very well with getting usage stats from the usual suspects, as it were, from JSTOR, from Project Muse, from OAPN. What's problematic is it's now running into barriers. So try getting usage stats from ProQuest, try getting usage stats from EBSCO, try getting usage stats from a publisher who wants to keep things close. But also try getting usage stats from all of the library repositories that are actually holding book chapters, journal article chapters, et cetera. And one of the other participants in our project is Joe Moore from Iris. And Iris, as you may know, it has normalized 209 repository usage data, but now it's run into the problem where Joe doesn't know if Iris can share with publishers the data from all these individual repositories that's been normalized because of this lack of clarity over who has guardianship over which data. So that chilling lack of clarity and the lack of a trusted space is making it impossible for publishers, for authors, for funders to get a 360 degree view of how we're advancing from openness to public impact. So it's a really deep problem and trust is at the heart. And for those of us who like, I just want my dashboard. The problem is we'll only get a certain level because at a certain point this is data that's being re-deposited, all these outputs, open outputs are being re-deposited across multiple platforms. And unless there's a trusted way of those platforms sharing the data, which is mutually beneficial for all those platforms, using a technology or a framework like the industry data space which is used in far more competitive industries, there will be no advance on our ability to measure progress towards achieving grand challenges and linking openness and public access to the grand challenges that we seek to address. And I'm going on too long. So lastly, I'll just say that I think a particularly interesting problem is looking at this other stuff outputs. We're seeing scholars who are increasingly developing digital projects that have multiple components in them. They're not book-like, they're not journal-like. They kind of incorporate articles and video and data sets, et cetera. And these new types of outputs have even more complicated usage issues. And just slightly anecdotally, we at University of Michigan Press published 75% of our front-list open access now thanks to the supporting libraries for fund to mission. There are two books that hit the counterstats hard. They have many, many more counterstats like together they have all the usage that MIT Director Open reported yesterday. But that's very skewed because they're not books. They're book-like things with multiple resources on the Fulcrum platform connected to them. But all those resources, all the counter usage rolls up to the book level. So we're kind of gaming the system. So when we tell you, hey, we're more successful than an MIT Press, that's completely false. That's because we're relying on a counter system that needs to keep adapting, needs to keep researching as these outputs change. So that's me and Christina, sorry, over to you. So a couple quick observations and then we'll shift to questions. The one thing I will note is as you hear about usage data aggregation, I'm sure there are some in this room who are like, isn't this an easy problem? We have technology. Can't we just build a data warehouse or a data lake? There are open data lakes. I'm sure some of you have heard about and some of our consortia that are building. But the problem is it's not technology. It's about governance and trust. Can an entity trust that the data they put into a space is used and protected in a way that they need? I'll note that this really is disruptive innovation. The International or Industrial Data Spaces Model, the IDS coming out of Europe, is radically different than how we do things today. It is a semantic web decentralized solution where the data is sovereign. It stays with the entity that creates the data and is processed in transit to where it needs to go. And so I'll just footnote that there is a lot we will have to go through as a community as we learn how to adopt those types of frameworks and technologies to the governance and stewardship principles we develop. So I think we have to start first with defining those values and principles, keeping an eye on ethics and what we truly need from this usage and impact information before we get to the technology. With that, we did wanna save some time for questions. I know all Charles advances to the last slide. I'll just note one of the great things about this workshop is we had 11 invited talks, five minute talks from a number of the players in this space. So we wanted to invite those of you. You can see the ones that were prerecorded, the ones that happened on site are not yet in there. But for those of you who may be interested in taking a deep dive on the current state, you can watch those videos. If anyone's interested in finding out more information, you're welcome to contact me and I can put you in touch with the players or engage you in the work we're doing on the bookside. But with that, let's shift to questions, reflections, and any thoughts from all of you. And I'm going to keep this slide up there so you can get the snapshot. And I just want to say, we've sort of shortchanged Christina on her reflections, but I really wanted to pay tribute to Christina. She's bringing the whole concept of the industry data space into our industry. And it's really, really exciting. If there are any comments, I also wanted to say, please do come up at the end or at the break or come and talk to one of us because we definitely see this workshop as the start of the gathering, we'd love to see some more videos in our collection hearing about other projects in this space. So please do come up to us or email Christina after the break. But if there are, if there are any questions or comments, we'd love to hear them. I'm a senior research scientist who looks at a lot of data sharing and reuse among researchers and have recently, I'm currently working on a paper actually with folks from the University of Michigan at looking at trust in data repositories. And we're finding, typically there are several precursors to trust, right? There are factors that lead to it. And I'm interested to hear what you're thinking around trust if you could break it down a little because there are different factors, so integrity or benevolence or structural assurance. So there are identification. So there are different ways in which you can do that. And you're dealing with a complex community, those who are giving you data and those who are using the data. So that trust can vary across those. And so I'm curious about your thoughts on that and kind of how you're thinking about those things. That's a wonderful question and I'll fit note what we got to do with Melons Report was to really do a lot of literature review around this and there's some excellent resources from the Open Data Institute around trustworthy institutions and data collaboratives and how to sustain that. I'll say that there are layers of trust. Everything from cybersecurity and technical controls. We were lucky to have Ken Klingenstein from In Common and Identity Federation Internet too with us all the way through making sure that you do no harm. So trust needs to be both from those who put in the data that it's secure but those who rely on the data that they know its quality and that they can rely on what, you know, the data is what it's supposed to be. But at the end of the day, the other thing and this is where we get back to care principles, we need to have trust in this ecosystem that we're not doing any harm to the scholars and to the readers that are reflected within that information. And we have time for one more question. And by the way, we would love a video from OCLC. Hint, hint. Hi, thank you, Bruce Hedrick from Ithaca and JSTOR. As we've been working for the past several years on building an organization infrastructure services for the dreaded other, the special collections, distinctive collections, primary source collections, I'm wondering, you've kind of focused on books, journals, data sets. And is there really room for the other in your conversations because I can tell you from aggregating thousands of collections from hundreds of libraries, there is a big question about usage data and impact there that people are trying to get their arms around. C&I is such a great meeting. I had the chance to talk with a senior developer from UT Austin libraries on the first day just at one of the tables. And he was talking about some of the special collections that UT Austin is making available. And the question about usage data that comes from special collections, but also the way in which the impact of the letters that they receive from the people whose lives these have touched, in many cases, people from marginalized communities, that is impact to him. That's what keeps him in our industry. So I think the special collections conversation really needs to come in there. And I think that's maybe a missing group for us. And we should make sure to actually incorporate them. So we have arrived at the time for the break. Thank you very much. Do come up and say hi or email Christine or talk to us at the break. Thank you so much. Thank you.


Think of the International Space Station, and most likely you imagine an orbiting laboratory where scientists observe how plants, materials, and humans react to microgravity conditions. But during the past decade, the station has also served a very different role, that of being a business incubator. And this is one of its star products, the CubeSat. The CubeSat is one of many types of satellites now found in space. It is one of the smallest. One unit is a compact 10x10x10 cm cube and is commonly referred to as one U. And it can be deployed for a fraction of what its larger cousins cost. Early small satellites launched from the station were literally thrown into space by Russian cosmonauts. In 2012, crew members began utilizing the airlock in the Japanese Kibo module to deploy up to 6 U of CubeSats per airlock cycle. And not long after, the American company Nanoracks built and began operating an even more robust deployer on the station, capable of launching up to 48 U per cycle. That changed everything. Mike Reed is the manager of Space Station Business and Economic Development at Johnson Space Center. He notes how one of Nanoracks' first customers, Planet, leveraged the new launch capabilities aboard the space station. Planet wanted to take high-resolution photos of Earth. While you can take pictures from the space station, your coverage is limited by the station's orbit. With multiple CubeSats, however, you can position them to cover almost any point on Earth. In a relatively short time, Planet deployed several generations of CubeSats from the space station, proving the viability of their technology approach and their business model. With these successes, Planet quickly expanded to an operational fleet of over 150 satellites deployed using commercial launch providers. This fleet gives them the ability to image the entire Earth's land mass every day. Planet's imagery is now in high demand by companies and governments who use this big data in the fields of agriculture, forestry and land use, mapping and disaster response. Within a decade, the company has grown from a true start-up to employing nearly 500 people. Multiple companies are now building small launch vehicles specifically to deploy CubeSats and other small satellites into low Earth orbit for use in a variety of ways for companies as well as students and non-profit organizations. CubeSats are being used to provide internet services to even the most remote regions of the planet. They're helping build better weather and climate models to improve weather forecasting. They're enabling text messaging for your phone, around the globe, even without a cell signal. CubeSats are also leaving the planet. The first and second interplanetary CubeSats accompanied NASA's Insight Lander on its recent mission to Mars, relaying data about the spacecraft as it entered the planet's atmosphere. Some CubeSat missions will serve as pathfinders to help map the way for the Artemis missions to the Moon, and 13 CubeSats will launch on the first mission, Artemis-1. Read concludes with this observation, today, more and more, a single large and expensive satellite is being replaced by one of the newest members of the satellite portfolio. A flock of small, less expensive yet very powerful CubeSats. Affordable access to space has broadened the station's capabilities in a way that, frankly, was never envisioned. However, that access has enabled CubeSats to become a sustained commercial success, contributing significantly to the growing space marketplace. For more science and research from the International Space Station, go to www.nasa.gov.iss-science. To discover more about the space on, around and beyond our planet, visit science.nasa.gov.


To get I'm hungry. I'm sorry. I don't even know why you be wondering. I hit the gym I think I just broke our bed. I've been hitting the gym hold on The gym is a scam and clearly it ain't working. All right What's going on if in a fan welcome back to another video if you guys are new to channel make sure you guys hit that subscribe button Turn on your post notification about leave a positive comment down below for a chance to get a what babe for a chance I'm gonna shout out in the next video and this yogurt anyway guys I don't even know what we doing today. So explain it to me because I don't even know why I'm here today I'm going to be asking Isaiah questions that are really really juicy again And we are going to make him super uncomfortable today again. Yes, and you have to answer all of them truthfully Why don't I you can't be eating yogurt while we're filming? I'm hungry guys if you guys are wondering what this is It's a coconut milk yogurt alternative. It's strawberry banana. It's freaking awesome. It's dairy-free It's good who put you on who put me on yeah, Chef Ramsay. Yeah, whatever. I put him on So the first question is does he ever turn down his location turn down? Yeah, basically they're saying the other turn your location off. No, you wouldn't be notified It would tell you in the text messages It'll be like Isaiah or whatever you got me on your name was a hubby turned off Sharing location or something like that if I were to do that argument Yeah, but honestly like you won't see that notification until you actually click on the text message I guess but I don't have no reason to turn off my location if anything I'm almost with you like 24-7 basically kind of Next question is how many times does he want to do it in a day?  It's sometimes very irritating. I'm a growing boy. I just want what does that mean? What excuse is that what excuse please tell me? Right if you wanted to like I don't know like if I got nothing to do and I'm not busy Why not get one out? You know what I mean? No, I don't know what you mean, but if you don't want to do it You don't want to do it's as simple as that but if you want to and it's like three times a day I can't complain about nothing else and for the rest of my life like Guys, I can literally be watching TV. He'll be like You want to do it? Like I'm not even doing anything. She'll be like she'll be like can you go make me a smoothie and make sure you include bananas in it? And I'll be like oh, so you want to do it, but no I don't always try to find a way in like no It's not funny. Okay next next question. Anyway, would you do a three-way if I would agree to it with another girl? Oh Girlfriend agreeing to do it What um Why are you saying it like that because like see I feel like this is a trap This is a trap. Oh, you sound nervous nervous laughs. Yeah, you stopped eating your yogurt for this one. Hey, yeah Yeah, I lost my appetite.  I got yogurt on my arm Yeah, I don't so so you're telling me you want to do it So you agree to the threesome, right? You'll agree to it Get away from my yogurt. Ah, see, I don't know because that might be weird I don't know because you could agree to it But like if I'm not giving you like all the attention while doing it you might get mad right there at that moment So I'm gonna go with no also you would be giving another woman attention It's a threesome. Obviously you have to be all involved. No like more attention than me That's what you said. No, I'm afraid that if we were doing it You'd get offended at that point like like all you're giving her said like you feel like you're not getting enough Then I feel that's what you would say Next question. I'm getting itchy Next question.  That's mosquito bites by my mom's house. They're true Yeah, whatever. How would you rate my scheme from what I want to tell? BMS broke my scale That's why That's why I be wanting to do it like three times a day because it's the game is like it's up there Do you enjoy the noises that I make when we do it? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm 100% that's like the best is All right, thanks for your question. I want to specify, you know, get all details We want to like that's what you want to ask this question. Honestly. All right. Well, you did so yes I do okay next question a lot. When was the last time that you pleased yourself? I don't know that long time Mm-hmm, and I'm being 100% truthful. I haven't done that in a long time because you're here And you're here. Why would I have to need to do that? So it's like if I feel like I need to do something like that I'll just do a yo, babe. Um, you want to do me a solid scratch my back I scratch yours like that type of thing So it's like And you know, we gotta we gotta figure it out. All right, I don't need to do that. Okay I think they get it. Do they get it? Yes, I think they do. If they don't then okay. So you're telling me you want to do it If you say it to me one more time If we're doing the deed and I smell bad, would you tell me? Hell, yeah, I would tell you. Really? I'm being that serious. You know how to do anything. You know, I'm gonna be like yo, babe Shower we could do it in the shower. We could do it when we get out, but clean first, okay? I will tell you to I'll be like we not doing this because you still Be honest, I want you to tell me so Okay, that we haven't understand it. Do you like when I touch your butt? No, absolutely not I actually hate it very much. Please stop doing that.  I don't like it.  Come on. See I don't like it makes me uncomfortable I don't like that. Oh, I like it's like it's weird. It's like I don't know. I don't like that. It's not cool for me. Next question is what times do I annoy you the most?  So it's funny.  I'm not trying to go to sleep. I'm not tired.  That's just me. I just don't like that. That's just me I personally don't like there's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with that because there's people that like that That's completely fine. That's just not me. I don't like that. Yeah, and I don't like having body hair either I do laser so I don't have hair anyway. So yeah Would you do it when I'm on my period? See, I just thought about a vine and if you guys don't know about wine You guys are too young, but I just thought about a vine here. He was like girl periods don't stop nothing But a sentence. Oh, see, but that's not me. That's not me Because When someone says all you want to do it on the period or whatever I immediately think of that I split no Red sea the red sea is it's only thing until the Red Sea term blue sea. That's it I don't know what I just said, but Red Sea we ain't doing the Red Sea. All right. That's it I'm ready. What's the nice one? That's it. Those are all the questions. All right. That's it. Yeah Oh, that wasn't that bad. It wasn't that wasn't that bad There was one that made me a little uncomfortable No, there's two that made me uncomfortable which was the threesome and then the other one where it's like you touch my butt Like don't don't touch my butt, please. Don't touch it. Stop touching my butt. No, stop Don't touch my blood was mine as yours was yours is mine. That's not how this works Yeah, so you're telling me you want to do it. No Anyway, that's it. We're done. Stop. Why are you always want to bite me? You must have played I feed you. All right for the fam so that is it for today's video I hope you guys enjoyed if you guys did don't forget to smash that like button comment team Janice in the comment section below If you think I made him really uncomfortable also comment down below if you guys want to see me ask her juicy questions And if you do make sure to hit my DM and let me know follow me on Instagram too.  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