Live from Orlando, Florida, it's theCUBE. Covering Microsoft Ignite. Brought to you by Cohesity and theCUBE's ecosystem partners. Welcome back everyone to theCUBE's live coverage of Microsoft Ignite here in the Orange County Civic Center in Orlando, Florida. I'm your host Rebecca Knight along with my co-host Stu Miniman. We are joined by Raphael Meyerwitz. He is the VP Office of the CTO at Presidio and Jake Smith who is the Director Data Center Solutions and Technologies at Intel. Thank you both so much for coming back on theCUBE. You're both CUBE alum. Thank you for having us. It's great to be back. So I want to start by laying out for our viewers why you're here and that you're part of the Microsoft ecosystem, Intel, Cisco, Dell and others. Can you explain a little bit to our viewers how the role you play in this ecosystem? Well for us, Microsoft is a long time partner. I mean it's pretty well documented. We don't want to go there today but at this particular event we're announcing a bunch of new product solutions. We're announcing new technology capabilities and at 4 p.m. we're going to announce some world record results for performance with an operating system in an application environment. So it's a very exciting time for Intel to be a part of this event. Well this is quite a tease. Can you give us a little bit? Gonna have to wait till 4 p.m. I will say it has to do with Windows Server. It has to do with Xeon's scale of a processor family and our future obtained products. Well so these are all great lead-ins and before the cameras were rolling we were talking about all of these things. Do you want to go through a little bit where we are with each of those businesses? Yeah at Presudio we've also been partnering with Intel for a long time and one of the things that we've seen also is how Intel has developed their ecosystem of partners with software like today. If you look at today what was announced today with desktop as a service with Citrix. That's something that we have been involved in probably for about 10 years and now we've actually seen that come to market where not just the control plane is in the cloud but the actual virtual desktops are in the cloud. And we think that that's going to be a really good viable option for customers with Office 365. Yeah Raf maybe expand on that a little bit for our audience. You know one of the things I always say is you're talking this multi-cloud heterogeneous world. You want to follow the apps, you want to follow the data. Well you know the desktop is part of where those applications and data live. So how does that tie into all of the cloud stuff we've been talking about the last few years? So for a lot of customers, one of the reasons they move into the cloud is really for simplicity sake, right? When you look at the desktop, the desktop has really not necessarily been the most simple thing in the world, right? Whether it's virtual or whether it's a physical desktop. By having the control plane and the virtual desktop in the cloud where you can consume it with Office 365 and also through Microsoft and you can buy it through a single entity, customers are really going to see a lot of value in that. And we think it's really going to play in the mid-market really, really well. Upper enterprise customers and some healthcare customers may take a little bit more time to adapt to. Jake one of the things we talked for years we talked about people did their upgrades based on the TikTok of the Intel piece there. Now we're talking about things like, you know Windows as a Service going evergreen. Maybe how does that relationship, the old traditional wind-tell versus the cloud era upgrades? You're talking about the new latest generation. How do we think about that today? You know I'm not going to use that the merged term because that's the work that Windows does on Xeon scalable processor family has been amazing. But typically we've done a two to three year cycle on a server release. With our new roadmap which we announced in August which you were there for, so thank you. We're actually going to release a new CPU every year. And we're releasing a new CPU every year because we have to deal with the fact that cloud customers in Azure want to have the availability to the latest and greatest technology right now. And partners like Presidio and RAF team have developed technologies like Concierge which he'll talk about that give customers the ability to manage their hybrid cloud environments both in the cloud and on-premise. And when you start giving customers that flexibility they want the choice to say, I want to deploy your latest Xeon processors, Xeon scalable processor family, Skylake processors this year and next year I'm going to maybe skip a year before I deploy your next version. Yeah, thanks Jake. So one of the things that we've done at Presidio we've tried to innovate ourselves and we listened to our customers and we know where our customers' pain points are. So Presidio Concierge is something that we developed from the ground up that provides both SaaS based applications provides customers with the usage on their SaaS based applications, how they're consuming their licenses and also provides them with analysis on some of the infrastructure as a service. A lot of customers when you talk about multicloud it doesn't necessarily always mean the hyperscalers right? It could mean SaaS based products as well. So we developed this product from the ground up in combination with Intel and it's something that our customers are starting to use a lot and we think that there's going to be a great roadmap for this product. Some of the features that we actually give to our customers are actually for free because we know that our customers are really battling with figuring out the usage patterns internally. Well I want to hear about those pain points. What were the problems that you were trying to solve with Concierge? So some of the pain points, we have customers today that get invoices from some of their public cloud companies with SaaS providers or with this infrastructure as a service and the invoices are 50 pages long. They can never actually figure out what their true costs are. So we, through a SaaS based platform that we developed from the ground up, we can provide customers with all of those metrics around their licenses plus also their usage around infrastructure as a service as well. And what has demand been like? The demand's been really good actually when we launched a product about two, three months ago we already had 20 customers and we've seen a lot of interest. Presidio has about 7,700 customers nationally that we call on today and we've grown tremendously with about a $3 billion infrastructure partner today that provides both on-premises and public cloud services.  Unfortunately today, cloud is no longer simple. You know, I would say if you said, okay, if I went to my server vendor of choice and wanted to configure something versus I went to my cloud vendor of choice and tried to configure something, cloud might even be more challenging for somebody to do. But one of the areas that we're trying to help customers get some simplicity back is if you look at solutions like Azure Stack. So Rebecca and I interviewed Jeffrey Snowver earlier today and that was the goal they had is to give kind of that operational model and even some of the services from Azure and put them in my data center. Just wondering if, you know, I mean Intel and Presidio, you're both partnering with Microsoft on this. What are you seeing? What are you hearing from customers? Any proof points as to how the rollouts are going on there? So Presidio, we were one of the first Azure Stack partners probably about a year and a half ago when it was actually announced and when it went GA, I think it was June of last year. And we partnered with Cisco, Dell and also HPE in the space. And we've seen demand from our customers creep up. Single node solutions, we've seen demand where single node POC solutions are being deployed today. And then in the public sector, we also started to see customers that are interested in it because it will provide them with a gateway to the public cloud in the future. Yeah, we're seeing the exact same thing. Obviously we've been partnering together for some time. The beauty of Azure Stack is it's optimized for Xeon scalable processor family as well as Intel Optane technologies, both the SSDs and then in the future our persistent memory capabilities. What we like in our work that we've done on Azure Stack and Azure Stack development is that customers have had a lot of releases to begin to determine where Azure Stack's going to fit in their overall portfolio. And that's really how you have to look at Azure Stack is how do you manage your portfolio between the cloud and on-premise? Azure Stack is a great tool for that. Yeah, you know, leading up to the release of Azure Stack, I talked to a number of service providers that had pent up demand. Leading up to this show, I was hearing a lot of non-North American interest. Can you give us any characterization as to how the rollout's going? Yeah, I think when you look at non-North American interest, there's a lot of localization that has to take place in a lot of those countries. Maybe there's not actually an Azure public cloud Azure in those countries today, which is something that Microsoft is building towards. So customers want to get used to the APIs, they want to keep their data local, and they want to have the same APIs on-premises versus in the public cloud for all of their applications. And that's why I think you see it especially in Europe as an example, right? A lot of countries in Europe where they actually data sovereignty is a big issue, right? The data's not allowed to leave the country that they actually in. And the demand I think will always say Microsoft version two or version three, they always get it right. I mean, we've seen this time and time again. They've proven to us that they get this right all the time, so. I want to follow up on something you were just talking about though, with sort of risk management being a really big, hot opportunity, the next generation of rich risk management and mitigation. Can you talk a little bit about what you're doing there and what you're hearing from customers? Yeah, so Presidio developed the next generation risk management framework called NGRM. So we found we do a lot of security with Cisco, Palo Alto, we have a lot of security vendors out there that we deal with, but what our CIOs were really looking for is they were looking for a single dashboard that could actually provide them with a scorecard green, yellow, red, basically saying, you know, this is where we act in our security strategy and this is what we need to remediate right away. They can take that to their board, they can also use that internally for all of their CISOs and also all their internal IT infrastructure personnel that they have. So it's something that we've seen customers adopt because it provides that analysis and the remediation and it's not necessarily tied to a specific product. Again, this is a SaaS-based platform that we develop from the ground up because our customers are always saying, well, there's always security vulnerabilities. How can we constantly check on this, right? And it doesn't matter whether you're in Asia, whether you have on-premises solutions, whether you have some other public cloud provider, we can provide that holistic view for customers today.  I mean, things like Server 2019, we all expect. The open data initiative, the commentary that we had is, if you talk about digital transformation, I mean, Microsoft, Adobe and SAP, two companies at the center of it, you know, what does it mean? When will customers see the benefits of this and any commentary on digital transformation in general would be great. Well, typically, you know, we've been involved in a lot of these open standards and they typically take three to five years to work their way all the way through the system and build a proper ecosystem and standards and then work their way into the product lines. I think in this particular instance, there is a driver. We talked about the driver of cloud and why we Intel are now producing chips every year and you're not waiting for the three-year release cycle. Well, the open data initiative, I think falls into that camp. I think you're going to see an escalated transition to the open data initiative because people have to be able to move their workloads. Presidio recognized it very early on in the process. We've been working with them for some time, but that's one of the values that they bring to customers is the ability to do that, but more and more customers and more and more data are being stretched and there has to be compatibility between file systems, file format, and data classification. The open data initiative is a start in that direction. Yeah, I mean, one of the examples that I could give you also is, you know, we always talk about IT transformation. We have a large customer that's actually a fleet truck company that underwent IT transformation and they came to us and they said that they actually needed telematics on the trucks and the fleet of trucks. And the reason was because a lot of these trucks were breaking down and they would send it to a mechanic and the mechanic would diagnose it. So we actually created in partnership with Intel and with Microsoft, the telematics platform that actually can provide the customer real-time with what issues they actually have with the truck. And it saves the customer a lot of money. That's the type of information that customers are looking for. This customer has on-premises data plus also in the public cloud. And I think stretching that and providing analytics around that is really important. And is it possible to take away the silos?  I'm very optimistic that we can take away the silos but I'm also realistic. The only way to take away the silos is develop new applications, new capabilities. And as my friends in the Windows Server team will tell you, we spend a lot of time trying to figure out how do we use virtualization and container technologies to you take old legacy data and carry it forward onto new modern IT infrastructure. And when you can do that, then you can extract value from the data. If you cannot take it from an old and equated infrastructure to a new infrastructure as ProCidio has done, you stranded the data and that's where you have those silo breakdowns. So I think we're developing the tools but we're not all the way there. Yeah, you look at with Windows 2019 coming out, there's Linux support in Windows 2019. Who would ever think that Microsoft would be releasing Linux support? Microsoft loves Linux. Microsoft loves Linux now, right? And they all get up. And they all get up now as well. I mean, Microsoft has really developed the ecosystem of partners around, also around the open APIs and what they've been doing over the past few years and I think customers are really starting to embrace that and you look at even another feature that's coming out with Windows 2019 with Storage Faces Direct, right? I think Microsoft, this is really going to be the entry into the hyper-converge space, right? Customers are going to start building their own hyper-converge platform based on Windows 2019 data center. Yeah, I wondered if you could give a little more color here, Af, you and I lived through kind of conversion, hyper-convergence, you know, when we wrote our original research at Wikibon, it was VMware is the one that's going to get everybody talking about it but the one eventually that will be very important here is Microsoft because Microsoft owns the apps. They've got the operating system so absolutely they can be critical in the HCI space. What are they doing and how does Presidio and partners go to market with this? So I mean when you look at Windows 2016, Windows 2016 was really the first generation of Storage Faces Direct. Windows 2019 has really improved upon that and we're starting to see customers become more interested in that, right? The reason is because customers want a single platform that they can easily manage with a single operating system. So there used to be the war, as you mentioned, between VMware and Hyper-V. ESX and Hyper-V, Zsphere and Hyper-V. I don't really see that being talked about anymore. It's more around the features and the robust features that customers can actually get out as quickly as possible. I don't know if you have any questions. Well, Raf, you're absolutely right on. I think people have taken virtualization for granted, right, we added virtualization technology in Xeon in 2006 and they've sort of taken it for granted. Obviously VMware is a big partner for both Microsoft and Intel, but the reality is that in a hyper-converged environment you need a file system, you need an operating system and you need apps and Microsoft has all that capability. As you'll hear at four o'clock, we announced world record numbers and it's spectacular and the reason for it is in our last version of Windows Server 2016, we delivered six million IOPS in a hyper-converged environment.  We think this new instantiation that we've already started to announce in Windows 2019 and Jeff Woolsey announced it earlier today and started talking about the features and project Honolulu, we think those kind of transitions are what it's going to take for enterprise customers to begin to break down the silos that you discussed and really start to look at their data holistically, build data lakes that can scale, okay, and build frameworks that are, I don't even want to use the term converged anymore, but hyperscalable. Yeah, I mean, to tie into that, right, you look at what Intel has developed around Optane and some of the storage platforms that they've come up with, you know, 10 years ago, Intel wasn't really known as a storage company, right? But you look at all of the storage vendors out there today, they really are putting Intel inside and when you start looking at what storage space is Direct is going to deliver and some of the robustness that are on Optane, they really think that it's going to be something that customers are going to embrace with Windows 2019 and future version of SQL. Yeah, so Raph, I got to give Presidio a lot of credit, though. We launched a program called Intel Select Solutions and it really allowed us to take Windows and storage spaces Direct and create a solution that included both the CPU, the networking, the SSDs and the memory and Presidio has led that and so because we have these Intel Select Solutions for storage spaces Direct with Presidio, we have the flexibility now to give customers package solutions that are pre-configured. Great, well Jake and Raphael, thank you so much for coming on theCUBE, it was great talking to you. Thank you very much. I'm Rebecca Knight for Stu Miniman, we will have more of theCUBE's live coverage of Microsoft Ignite coming up just in a little bit.


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So if I give a hundred dollars EA, I'm giving a hundred dollars to one of you So that works out. Well, I'll pin one of my comments in the top of this video All you gotta do is reply to that. You don't gotta like the video or subscribe.  You boy pizza So all you gotta do is reply and I'll randomly select one of you and I'll just YouTube message you or whatever So make sure you're checking that I know a lot people don't check that but make sure you check that these blitz packs 276 plus overall gold or better and 172 plus gold overall better. All right pack number one Let's get this bread. I actually like really like these packs and there's a limited to Shawn Jackson in packs And I couldn't even tell you the last time I pulled a limited time player So hopefully we can get him we get Dylan Cole I think this pack-and-play though is almost guaranteed to be better than the last one because I got screwed over so bad on the last one Elite 85. Hey outside Jeffrey. Let's get it. Okay. So as of right now, we're giving away an outside Jeffrey jersey, but that can change Thanksgiving gold Jordan Lucas, can I just please pull my limited? Randall Cobb. All right. Got a wide receiver Should kill Barrett 79 right outside linebacker Shaw Jackson or or Lamar Jackson. I'll take any of the Jacksons Cuz that Lamar Jackson is ridiculous too. Hey big legend Hey, I'm excited, but can I give away?   Christian Kirk 88 speed. Oh that card's good. And we got another elite Robert Woods Yo, what is this? Oh team a week?  Oh, thanks. We got okay. It's a tight end though That's kind of dull So we got a tight end and is that Fitz magic? Our QB is currently Fitz magic.  Yeah, it's a cornerback and another team of the week elite. I think that's what that is Gary on Conley a slightly better right tackle and an elite. Yes. Thank you, that's not that good But hey, it's an elite and another it's a teammate cold This card has like 91 speed. I think 92 speed jakeen Grant. Okay Nothing Nothing nothing and an elite on Chris Harris Jr. That's technically our nest next best regular pulls So he actually could be the jersey giveaway. I'm not really gonna get no elites in this one. I can feel it I can feel it. That's like tingly gold Wait, what that's actually an elite. Okay, so these wide receivers don't look like much at all But they're so fast He's got 92 speed. He's got 88 Tim Brown has 86, but he's definitely pretty solid Damian Williams is my hat back right now I might put in Wendell Smallwood and set it him Lamar Jackson's going here. Sorry Fitzpatrick. We didn't get a full back Whatever Vance McDonald David and Jokou at tight end Jordan Mills at 90 overall Bruce Matthews Defense James Smith BJ Goodson got all 79 overalls at linebacker got a 79 free safety elite strong safety Gary on Conley William Jackson Chris Harris Jr. And at least that's this is way better than the last back play like Significantly better. All right now. I'm buying Lamar Jackson And I actually might run some read option in this game. We're throwing event This is like a college playbook or run straight like read option and triple read option Whatever though Lamar Jackson. Let's get it Oh He's got the long shot coach boys. You know what this means if someone has a long shot coach you do not lose that game Throw it throw it throw it right here.  Who are you bro? I think Jaylin Ramsey is accidentally my partner Turner Yeah, he's not going very far. He's like eight. He's like 80 speed Well, we're on the 42. This is a touchdown. I've got a lot of throw power on this Lamar Jackson Oh, he's right there. Go Evan. We're gonna block as many people as we can And then we're just gonna scramble. Oh He's got a QB spy on me, but I am too.  Yep. He can And then I'm hitting with the fake da Let's see if we get it off though Fitzpatrick to Jake Elliott to the new Evan anger truck them.  Well, hey, let's get it. All right counter bar when Let's get a pic underneath covered Dude, this guy is really testing And I don't like my ball just quit bro, just quit like this game is all over. Oh Pressure's on.  What just happened I Have no idea what I just did I'm giving it good read Good read Matt Maher All right, Vance McDonald's getting kind of sad that we've been throwing to Evan Ingram so much So I might hit him. Oh I really could have but I'm gonna hit this. Oh get there 72 speed to King Grant. I Have an anger I'm press coverage Boom boom Well, we all know I'm not punning. All right, we got room on the right side. I'm hitting Y. Uh-oh there Robert Woods Was that that was like a four-man coverage Third and two I want a Lamar Jackson scrambling touchdown and I'm gonna get it It's gonna happen if I want it. I follow and I pick the ball up and I got the first down. Oh my god This has got to be so frustrating. Oh That's touchdown. See ya. See ya and read the scouting report, bro.  All right. I have an underneath right on that Throw something underneath Throw something underneath. Let's go. We stopped it. Okay. I haven't ran this play-all game And I think he's in a cover too. Yes. He is Robert Woods. Let's go eight seconds that got us like 30 yards Get it and groups got it one juke to the end zone One second. Oh, let's go. This card is nasty and Read the scouting report. I threw a mallard anyway, but he was getting over there So I might have had to break that tackle. Can we return a kick would you keep Grant? Oh? My god, wait a second. Oh my god. We're gonna return this kid. I Just gotta get this guy. Oh That's it, that's all he needed he needed me to return that kick that far Right fight. Oh my god. He literally Is not quitting he definitely shouldn't be in Marjax and take off take off so fast. No, no, that is so cheesy, dude All right, are we getting this in the end zone with Lamar Jackson? That's how dive Let's see if you read the scouting report. Oh, maybe I'll hit him with a different one I'm gonna hit him with the one to the opposite side Not that it'll do anything different Yep, you're doing the wrong way. Oh wait shoot. I don't know this. This is not gonna work.  No. No, you can't score He pitched the ball and recovered it.  No, he cannot score. No, no My pride My pride. Oh, you think he'll try and do my fake on me He should have He should have tried that see if Evan anger. I'm gonna just straight up streak this He actually might be is that touchdown Dude, this is like that my favorite team that I've like played within a long time. All right. I'll see you later The fumble. Oh my god. He finally recovered the fumble All right, he finally recovered it, but he covered on the one yard line, which is not great for him Come on safety. Oh, I couldn't get there quick enough. Oh, no, no, no, no Why is Xavier Rhodes in this game? I don't know but darn it Oh my god I don't know what I did How am I letting this guy score? Who wants this ball? I'm throwing it to a I'm pressing a and throwing it. Oh my god This game loves me today for a second three two Gotta score our touchdown right here fellas No, okay made one miss toss it up I got laid out All right boys, that's it for today's back play. This was sick I want to try and get Lamar Jackson have an anger on my wheel of mud So I'll definitely keep that in mind when I record the next one, but that's it. Thanks. Watch as always peace out


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Okay, in previous lectures we talked about the CUBE MX, about the pinouts, about the configuration, what is necessary to install and now it's the time to test our first hands-on and test if everything is installed correctly, also the IDE and test if we can also work with our discovery board, nuclear board or the eval board. Okay, then we start with the new project.  In case you have different processor you need to select the different family, different series, different line. Now my RE, now what I need to do, I want to create a very simple hands-on for the lead toggling. This will be very easy. First I need to select one pin which is dedicated to lead. I know that on my nuclear board it's this pin PA5. Then I can select PA5 as an output which is very simple. Here I can also label my name of my pin. It will be for lead for the better naming. And this is all from this tab. The clock configuration I'm okay with the default setting for the GPO toggling. I don't need to do anything more but I here need to check the configuration in the GPO. I only check the GPO state after configuration will be low. I'm okay. The mode will be push-pull. This is okay in line with my configuration. Now pull-up, pull-down resistor is also correct and minimum speed. The skew of the edges is low for the GPO toggling. I think it's enough and we can save this. We can here save our project. Damn this I need to change here in the trainings. Example projects. Okay this I will cut a little bit later. GPO one for IR. You can name it how you want. I click on the okay. I can generate a project with the project generate or here with the icon generate project. Let's take a while and now the QPMix asking me to open my project in the IR. Then I can click okay and open my project.


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I don't have like an end game here. You know, I think it's just kind of like anything in the entertainment world. It's all about who you know, all about who will stumble across your channel and maybe give you a shout out. I know a few channels that were lower than me by quite a bit and they get that right connection.  The patriotic assassin asks, will you ever do another collaboration video like the ones you did with Chris Stuckman and Schmoes? No, maybe with people like Jeremy Johns or the flick pic. I reached out to all of them several times over the years. Jeremy Johns never returned my calls, never responded to any of my messages. I'm small, I'm peanuts, I get it, why would he? And my show, you know, a couple years back wasn't as polished or as good. So to him it's probably like what's this do for me? What's the point? Flick pic actually said he was gonna do my show. What's that guy's name? John Flickinger, I think. He said he was gonna do my show a few years back, like three years ago and kind of stood me up last second when I had the script and stuff prepared. People I have had on like Chris Stuckman and some of those others, they never really, they don't give me anything in return and I write their scripts for them. They never invite me onto their show and they never tell their audience about me. So what did I gain from that? Other than giving them more exposure. Joshua Garcia asks, how much does YouTube pay you?   There's just too many chefs in the kitchen. There's so much competition fighting for people's views. And I can't, you know, I'm like not knocking YouTube. That's just how it is. And they don't have the ads to support all the channels. Month average is 150 to 200. That's pretty much what I bank on from YouTube ad revenue. $150 to $200. There is of course other revenue sources. I make money from Patreon, from pledges. I think I have 52 people supporting me over there. They're not giving me ridiculous amounts of money. So it's just another couple hundred bucks. Then you have the new YouTube join thing that I have going. I only have like 10 supporters there right now. So that's maybe another, you know, 40 or 50 bucks.  I'd say from YouTube and Patreon and the community thing, 500 bucks a month on YouTube. The realistic fact is I'm a web developer who can charge anywhere from 80 to $150 an hour depending on who the client is and depending on what the project is. I mean, in one hour or two hours, I've made up one of my revenue streams. In six hours, I've completely blown everything out of the water. This isn't the smart bank for me to do. And then there's plenty of freelance work out there. It's just, this is the passion. Jackson Schroger says, I've been watching your channel for a couple of years. I remember a point a few years ago when you really seemed to stress losing followers and interest in the channel. Mentioning that if you didn't receive more fun soon, you'd most likely stop pursuing having a YouTube channel. Was this actually helped by a lot of donating or did your following significantly increase or did you just decide to push through and continue with YouTube regardless? Love your content. Adam, keep doing what you're doing. Go Cougs. Thank you, Jackson. That was very nice to say. I'm glad you've been watching. Certainly changed a lot on the channel over the years. Started out as Movie Feuds. That was the channel name and it was Corey and I doing the show. Then it turned into Feud Nation because I thought I could take it all on and do like Movie Feuds and Video Game Feuds and Sports Feuds and things I really didn't even know about. And then finally, Adam does movies. After talking to people, doing research of my own, I learned that YouTube really, it really tries to find a bucket to put channels into, whether it's a parody channel, whether it's a video game channel, yada, yada, yada. So having Feud Nation, which is already confusing to people, what that doesn't mean anything. Having all these kind of random videos about different topics, that was just, I wasn't picking up steam. I was actually losing views and subs and just wasn't going anywhere. So by saying, Adam does movies, you get it.   The channel grew actually quite a bit after I rebranded. I jumped like 15,000 in a year, 20,000 in a year, which was awesome. And now it's plateaued. As far as why I continued, yes. A couple of years ago, I just, I evaluated everything. I'd been doing the channel for three years. Corey was gone.  I had little, tiny kids at home.  My wife, Lindsay, she's got a disease. I don't talk about it, but it's her thing and we're working through it. But it takes up a lot of my time and energy. Looking at the YouTube thing, I'm like, is this silly show really worth doing? And so I put out a video. It was kind of this poor me thing. It wasn't trying to be. I just basically put it on the line. I'm like, look, if you want this show to go, I need to see growth and I need to see support.  Just do this show for basically nothing. We're past the fun stage in life. You know, I'm 36, I'm not in college. I'm not, you know, I'm not single or I'm not just with a wife and no kids. I have responsibilities. So the honeymoon phase is over on YouTube. Now it's time to get serious. I think that's what you see with a lot of channels. What happened was, yes, I did get support. Usually it was just comments, people saying, I love your show, don't stop. I wish I could support you, blah, blah, blah, which was nice. I also had a bunch of Patreon support. There was like a dude giving me 150 bucks a month by himself and he did this four or five months to the point where I'm on Twitter saying like, hey man, you don't need to give me this much money. Like I really appreciate it, but don't, you know, you do you first and put money in the bank and I don't know your routine. I don't know what you have for funds, but please don't kill yourself over my show.   But for those of you that don't know, and it's been a long time, but the hurt is still real for me, in high school, my father, my hero, he died in a car accident.  I unfortunately had an amazing dad who was killed way too young. In fact, I think he was only three years older than I am right now. So, relatively young guy. I'd been filming with my friends, never had my own camera since I was in third grade. You know, he was a big movie guy that we went to all the movies together. He's the one that really got me into movies. When he died, it just, it killed, it killed me. And it was two weeks before Christmas. No presents under the tree yet. We're living in a rental house while our, their new house was gonna, our new house was gonna be built. It was just a disaster. A week after his death, my mom comes up to me with a box. He had apparently bought me a camera at Best Buy, hadn't wrapped it yet, and tucked it in the garage. He bought me a video camera, a guy that I had no idea, and I don't think he knew anything about filming. You know, he made a conscious decision to go to Best Buy. He knew that I loved this. And he bought me an expensive camera. And he put it in the garage and he was gonna wrap it and give it to me at Christmas time. I think back at that, and I saw the support come in at the time when I was doing my Woe's Me thing. And if, if I stopped doing the show when it is seen growth, when there is people that like what I'm doing, I'm making people laugh, and I'm talking about movies, then I'm not only letting myself down, I'm letting my dad down. So the show's going on. The show will continue to go on, regardless if I get the support or not, if people, you know, pay a dollar or two, we're past that point as well. Yes, I could easily make money elsewhere. Yes, I could save myself a lot of sleepless nights doing this by just not. But we have one life on this earth and I'm going to, I'm gonna make the most of it. I think this is the path to go still. I will do another Q and A. I will hopefully get it done sooner. It's just these ones, I try to get my entertaining videos out more. You know, I try to get my movie feuds written. I try to get my cringes out. I try to get Adam Rantz out and Deep Inside Movies, the newest show that I really like how it's going so far. A couple episodes in, I hope you like it too. With those four main shows, plus I have Bad Movie Pitch, which is actually, I've only done a few and I think that show has a lot of legs as well. I just haven't, you know, had time to really focus on that one yet. But that would be another show. So five main shows on this channel to look forward to this year. I'll do two more. Favorite director, Steven Spielberg.  He's the one that got me into movies more than any other director. With Jaws, with Jurassic Park, with E.T., with Indiana Jones along with George Lucas. So definitely Steven Spielberg, old school director, and David Fincher, I think is one of the most powerful directors out there. You got Seven, you got Fight Club, one of the best movies ever made. You have Panic Room, like even a simple concept like Panic Room, you made awesome. You have The Zodiac, which is fantastic. You have The Game, which is criminally underrated. You have Social Network, which was a pretty boring topic that he made Bad Ass. Gone Girl, you have just so many good movies by this director. Sammy Jabber, can you rank the Mighty Ducks movies? D2, Ducks One, D3. Okay, that's it, I'm done. If you wanna ask a question, shoot it in the comments below. Hopefully it's less time than three months from now, but if it does take three months, stick around for the answer, okay? Thanks for watching.


Hey guys Shaber 1000 here today We're going to try one of these meatball makers Supposedly you can make stuffed meatballs with this Let's check it out Okay guys So let's uh, see what we got here. I know it's in here But you guys know but I've been waiting on this It's a wish product Monkey got for me because I've been wanting one for a long time Because I've been seeing everybody Review these Now some reviews are good some not so good and Sometimes they'll stick Inside there. So before we do anything once I wash this off I'm gonna put a little bit of oil in here. I forgot cooking spray. So I'm just gonna put a little bit of oil you know, I'm gonna wipe some oil in here with a napkin and We'll go from there.  We're just gonna put some cheese in the middle of this That's how we're gonna do ours, but I've been wanting this. It just came today. So Let's check it out I'm gonna go ahead and get this washed off And I'll get my oil over here and we'll start making meatballs Okay, guys get this all cleaned off and dried off That's some I'm just going to use a napkin because I forgot to get Paper towels as well, but all I'm gonna do is just take a little bit and Lightly coat that because I know from what I have seen They seem to stick For a lot of people and you only get like one or something out of it So that's why I wanted to use like a cooking spray or something to see if that will help. I'm just gonna lightly Hope this We're gonna see what's going to what's What happens with it? Okay? because Because we were asked like what was our favorite meal to make together and It was meatballs was the answer and So this way you kind of make it a little more fun. Okay? all right now I'm just going to set them inside this pan here Now I've got this mixed up I've got a It's not really how to make my how I make my meatballs this more of about this thing But I'll tell you what I did I put some I put I got two pounds of Ground hamburger ground beef and I got a pound of 16 ounce sausage roll sausage Mixed it up in here with two eggs and I've got some I put some crackers. I Crack I smashed up some crackers just for a binding agent. I know a lot of people It's probably gonna say well, you're not supposed to mix all that stuff up. You're just supposed to use Regular hamburger. Well, I look at it this way This is the way I make my meatballs. This is the way I'm gonna try it out. So let's Put these in here. I don't know how much meat I'm supposed to use Or anything, but we're just gonna try this Let's see Try on there, right guys.  I'm just going to keep checking until the internal temperatures Where it should be I'm gonna bring up the temperature probably to around a hundred and sixty-eight to a hundred seventy I know we'll just go from there. I'm sure I'm putting too much in here, but it'll be fine, right? now You're supposed to take this and push that over Like oh, I'm just squeezing that over top of the uh, that's gonna see better I'm just gonna take the excess off. I'm sure you don't have to some meatball guys And he's supposed to be perfect right now. Let's open it up and see what our meatballs look like Okay, not too bad This one didn't make one Well, I'm not impressed so I mean See this one just stuck here and something over by that stew I've got another one out. Do you guys think have you ever used one? I'm gonna try this a couple more times, but I'm not gonna do it on camera because I'm not gonna bore you guys with this, but I'm pressed as of right now If something happens that starts working for me, I'll add it in at the end of this video, but I mean We can try one more, but I don't think I'm out. All right guys, there you go. Here's the review of this thing and it pretty much turned out The way everyone else is dead So I'll get monkey out here and try to see what she thinks of it, but Right now I'm not impressed. I'll try a couple more, but I think it's gonna be the end of this video So and I've waited for weeks on this thing Um I don't know Anyway guys, there you go. That's the uh Meatball stuffing thing maker You know, I mean Let's try to make just a meatball Let's see what happens here. Let's put it in the center one I mean, I mean really now I'm not good with that at all. I mean, that's it's I'll do it by hand Shaber 1000 the myth the man the legend I'm gone for now guys. You take care of yourself and be cool. Bye now


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And I mean utterly replaceable. OK, the political and legal realms that follow that, the bastions that follow the cultural context, are developing laws, regulations, and procedures that are isolating men from their families, from their properties, from their marriages, that are actually removing a number of sexual health issues. For example, men typically have almost zero sexual reproductive rights. You actually have more rights to your intellectual property rights than your own physical DNA. And not only that, society is controlling our ability to communicate. Society does not want men speaking up. Feminism, in essence, is a single form of single gender politics, with only one seat at the table. And women like it that way.  I don't mean just in a physical and a material way, but in an emotional and psychological way as well. We suspend accountability for women culturally. Throw all that on top of a very, very unchanging biological context. We have not changed biologically for millennia. Our base nature hasn't changed. And so you're throwing all this sort of together in a way in which most men are unprepared for. We don't recognize what we're facing. So based on that, I'm going to start breaking some of that down as far as the context, in an environmental context. One of the most important and the fundamental is identifying the age in which we live. If we're going to be looking at architecture, it's important to understand the time frame in which it was created to understand why they were doing what they were doing, what solutions they were trying to meet, what were the programmatic objectives. And in that regard, we live in a fascinating time frame. We live in the age in which men can ask themselves probably the question of our era. Who do I want to be? Who do I want to become? What type of life do I want to live? And the nature of it. And no other time in human history have men of any social standing, any social status, been able to honestly ask those questions. Typically, those questions have been reserved for a very, very small minority of individuals on this planet. Today, everybody who's here and some of the people that are looking at this video now, can ask themselves that question. And I find that revolutionary. The second thing is to recognize not only do you have that privilege, but there's an expectation that comes with it. And it's a tough one. And this is where you're going to come face to face with the age. And that is physically it is almost impossible to leave your parents home, become a new quote, an age and adult, and have the knowledge and awareness associated with the information age. We live in a knowledge-based economy, a service-based economy. That requires a high degree of education, a high degree of education coupled with practical experience. That takes time. That takes effort.  What they're finding is it's more dynamic than just going and getting a degree. It's not just a four-year program anymore. It's closer to a decade. You need that practical experience. Not only that, practical education is now coming into question. It is completely possible to get a higher educated degree, a STEM degree, a science, technology, engineering, math-type-based degree, and still be completely unemployed in this age. Our context with our employer, our context within the business realm in which we're operating, can pretty much guarantee you will have 10 to 12 jobs in a 20-year period. If you're lucky, it will be shorter. You'll have a longer stint in that. You'll have a little more stability. But we no longer have this expectation that you will work at a same job for 20 years and retire with a company you got your first job with. You are no longer brought up through the company. It is easier to outsource. It is easier to hire without and transfer knowledge base. Basically, stair-stepping. You've got to start thinking that way. If you don't, you're going to run into direct conflicts. You're going to have self-crisis. You're not going to be prepared. And it will play out not only in your own personal lives, but the relationships you have in very profound ways. Add on to that complexity. There's no single route in which to achieve this. It's now new. It's the Wild West. You now have any number of ways to do it. College is not the only route. And it may not be the best route. It may be the worst route. Not only do you not get necessarily a healthy education, depending on which school you go to the quality of education, but you will leave indebted to a degree that will be hobbling. You will become basically financially indebted to the point that you become actually an essence to your own freedom of choice. That's called slavery, whether it's a physical shackle, whether it's a financial shackle. The results ends up binding you, weighs you down. You ultimately are going to be responsible for your own education, your own self-development. That's true in relationships. It's going to be true in anything in life. Keep that in mind. But as we look at the information age in general, I want to take a bigger step back and look at in the transition of mankind with social relationships, because that's what I'm going to be primarily speaking about, is we've gone through in a historical evolution primarily three times. And this is not the first time we've had major social evolution or changes. The first time is when we went from hunting and gathering to agriculture. And what you have is a degree of specialization taking place, and it's a dramatic specialization. Unfortunately, most of those time periods are undocumented. We can look back at areas where they transcended the bench to see some friction, some conflict. But on the whole, we can only kind of empathize and imagine what that conflict was like. But we do know that there was a degree of specialization taking place. The second would have been when we went from the agricultural age to the Industrial Revolution. There we do have documentation. But the issue here is that it wasn't just that we have the documentation. The documentation tells us very clearly it was single gender specialization. Men got more specialized. Men's roles have been able to provide. We came further specialized. Women on a whole, their dynamic role, did not change. And as we go into the information age, we now have a significant change in the fact that we now have dual sex specialization. We talk about in a very kind of overt way about society becoming more feminized. And that is very true. And that is a direct outlay of the information age. But part of that feminization is realizing we have specialized roles where women are taking, fulfilling, and actually co-sharing in. And men have not adapted very well. Our psyche of belief has not actually kept up with the times. And Darwin has taught us anything. It is the species that evolves appropriately for its time and the challenges its face that survives. And where men are failing, where men are feeling lost, they have not kept up with the times. We have not recognized that we have an increase in EQ, or emotional quotient, as far as what we expect in relationships and jobs and everything else. We have old school models of what it means to be a leader, to lead and to manage. It's fairly direct. They're typically referring to as hard skills. Women have brought in a whole series of other skills that are highly valuable to increase effectiveness, team building, networking, socialization, consensus building, collaboration, and overall a measure of diplomacy. When you take this in an appropriate context. And these skills are highly utilized in business today. But we don't teach them in men in relationships. Men who don't understand that, who don't learn that, who are not taught that are exposed to it, go into life at a deficit. And we need to realize we're at a disadvantage when we don't know something. And ignorance is no shelter from reality. It's a hard fact of life. These sort of skills, and while we utilize them in business, really are perfect for relationships. This is where you start developing them. If you don't not understand how to set a boundary, if you don't not understand collaboration building in a relationship, or consensus building in a relationship, proper to lead and managing and maintaining a relationship, your share is hell not going to do in a business.


Now we're going to show you another example that we discovered this year. This is a patient with neurofibromatosis. The patient did not have leash nodules, but look at these little dark bodies that you can see in transillumination. There's three of them in the area of the ciliary body, right there. Although we don't have proof of this, we are highly suspicious that these represent neurofibromas within the ciliary body. There's some more off to the side.


You should know by now how to order positive integers, but how do we order negative numbers or more generally integer numbers? Let's do it step by step First we should figure out what a negative number is in real life We can quite easily imagine what it means to have 1,000 pounds But what does it mean to have negative 1,000 pounds? It means that you not only have zero pounds, but also owe somebody 1,000 pounds So when you finally earn some money You should first give 1,000 pounds to your creditor to break even and only after that start growing positive numbers of your earnings To have money is better than to owe money in most cases That's why positive numbers are always bigger than negative So our first step is to split numbers in two groups negative and positive If we have zero it will stay in between these groups The second step is to order the numbers in the positive group. You already know how to do that The third step the negative group numbers should be ordered in the same way, but in the opposite direction The bigger our debt is the less money we have So the bigger the value of a negative number the smaller the number itself and the last step connect both groups together and Don't forget about the zero. We now have our numbers ordered properly Let's try to arrange the following numbers in ascending order Pause the video and try to do this on your own then continue watching Did you get them right? There is also another method to find what number is bigger You can use it if you know how to do operations with integer numbers Just subtract one number from another If the result is a positive number then the number that you are subtracting from is bigger If the result is a negative number then the number you are subtracting is bigger If the difference is zero then the numbers are equal You wouldn't normally use this method to order integers However, this method is common and so might be really helpful when ordering more difficult maths entities Also, if you are a computer, it's so much easier for you to just subtract numbers rather than do all these silly things with Digits and signs So just keep calm and subtract them. Let the power of order be with you If you liked the video give it a thumbs up and don't forget to subscribe Comment below if you have any questions. Why not check out our Fusco app as well until next time


Hi you guys! Lindsay here. Welcome back to my channel, Inside the Hymn. So we've hit a bit of a milestone, which is kind of blowing my mind, but I hit 10,000 subscribers here on the old YouTube channel. It's really hard to believe. I think my three-year anniversary is coming up in February, so this has happened really fast, or at least faster than I thought it would be. If I'm being perfectly honest though, I did have a goal at the beginning of 2018 to hit 10,000 subscribers, so the fact that we did it and that we did it in November with the whole another month left is just really, really exciting. I'm sure you've noticed I've been posting a lot more videos and trying to be really creative in the content that I bring you guys. I've been able to work with some sponsors here lately, so I'm really, really putting the work into the channel, and so it's so nice to see it being rewarded and coming back to me by all of you subscribing. So as a thank you, I am going to be doing a little giveaway. If you saw my announcement video where I told you that I'll be moving to Charlotte, then you know that I have been going through the sewing room and cleaning up some stuff, and in that process I found just some duplicates of stuff that I've had, things that sponsors have sent me, that I have extras of, patterns that I bought two of. I know you've done that before too, and I also went to Joanne and bought up a bunch of really cute notions that I have featured in my favorites videos in the past. Okay, we have this really cute simplicity themed coffee mug. Adorable. A Dritz sweater comb. This gets all of the lint off of your clothes. Here's some patterns. McCall 6-3-2-6. It's this fun little top variation. We have McCall's 7-1-6-6, which is like a crop top and a skirt. McCall's 7-1-2-7, which is this sweater pattern. Butterrick 6-2-4-8. Another sweater pattern. McCall's 7-3-8-9. A little top. Cute variations. Butterrick 5-6-4-4. Wow, lots of patterns. Butterrick 5-4-9-0. I've made this dress a good trillion times. I love it. For some reason I had two copies. Don't know why. McCall's 7-0-8-9. It's a perfect fit pattern, so you get a perfect fit on a little sheath dress. And then this vintage looking Butterrick 5-9-1-9. I love the back detail and the bow, obviously. And then I have a Cricut Sewing Tool kit, which includes scissors, a pin cushion, a seam ripper, thread snips. This is like a leather thimble measuring tape and pins. I have the Tunic Bible, which includes the uncut patterns. A great little book on how to make a gajillion different types of tunics with different necklines, different sleeves, different lengths of dress, all kinds of stuff. I had this really cute simplicity vinyl decal. You could stick this to a gajillion different things. They put this one on a reusable cup, but you could also put it on a notebook, or your computer, or just not anything. I have the Curve Runner, one of my absolute favorite things from 2018. I have the Dual Rotary Blade Sharpener. If you've never seen one of these before, I'll be reviewing it here on the channel shortly. I have this Needle Storage Tube, which like twists up so all your needles pop out. I have this Magnetic Storage Catty. Honestly, you could never have too many of these. I think I have two, and I'm considering getting a third one. Love this. I have one on my cutting table and one by my sewing machine. I have this Bias Tape Maker Set. There's three different sizes in there, and it comes in like a storage tin. Very functional, easy to make bias tape using these.  So okay, to enter the giveaway. Super simple, nothing complicated. One, make sure you're subscribed. Fun fact, 50% of the people that watch my videos aren't subscribed. So you might think that you're subscribed, but you're not. So double check. Make sure you're subscribed. Click the little subscribe button. Bingo, done. I'm not even going to ask you to click the notification bell that sends an email to you every time I post a video. That's not a requirement, but you can do that if you want. The other requirement is though to leave in the comments your favorite inside the hem moment. Something that you remember from the channel, something that I reviewed, a pattern that I made, anything that we have done here on the channel that is really memorable for you. I kind of want to take us down memory lane a little bit and reminisce and, you know, kind of like you take in the last few years and what it took to get to 10,000 subscribers. I couldn't do this job. I couldn't have this career if it weren't for all 10,000 of you, actually like 10,200 and some odd of you at this moment. So I am super, super grateful and I hope that this little giveaway is a small token of my appreciation and can tell you how much it means to me that this is even possible. So anyways, thank you all so much. I'm so excited. I cannot wait for you guys to see what is in store for 2019. I have a good jillion great ideas and our next milestone is like 25,000 subscribers. So let's see if we can get there. Let's see how long it takes. I appreciate each and every one of you. Enter the giveaway, subscribe and leave a comment. Then we'll pick a winner and I'll announce it on social media and then reach out to you personally. So don't worry about any of that stuff, but, but yeah, go ahead. Enter now. Leave your comment. Click the subscribe button. Let's do this. I'll see you all soon. Bye.


llicit offense so what we wanted to look at was who's left behind when you have that criteria who might otherwise be benefiting from that risk production programming and when looking at medium to high risk people who are not convicted of illicit offense that's almost a quarter of the total people you might otherwise want to get that programming because they are not getting that programming while they're incarcerated when you look at the community side where the populations are bigger the medium to high risk people who are supervised in the community who are not receiving programming again because they're not convicted of illicit offense that's almost half of the total medium to high risk population so there are two and that's a big gap we also talked a little bit about how there are a lot of people who are lower risk and in the community that's almost 5,000 people who probably shouldn't receive risk reduction programming that is well designed and focused on meeting the high risk people but there are people with lower risks but other needs that may not be met in other places and it doesn't mean there's no need it's just a resource problem so I just wanted to highlight that there are lower risk people who will have different needs that don't rise to the level of meeting DOC's really intensive programming but they are probably having any number of things go unmet locally as well and then this was the last data slide I wanted to share with you all prison admissions made up of people coming off of supervision and the prison population made up of people coming off of supervision where that places Vermont so if you were to just look at probation and parole populations combined Vermont would have the sixth lowest admissions rate if you will made up of people who were revoked in the country if you add furlough violators to that however Vermont would have the highest that 78% than any other other state again caveats because furlough is unique in Vermont and unified systems you've got a mixture of populations but it's still well above most other places and then the percentage of the prison population that's comprised of people who are revoked from probation and parole Vermont would be 16th lowest it was just those two populations adding in furlough Vermont would be sixth highest so again it's there's a lot of returning into the state which is driving a lot of what's going on with prison populations and admissions and putting a lot of pressure on the correction system we then have also present well can we stop and just see are there any I was going to shift into a new section but I just want to see if there are any questions on any of that there are many more slides that I just pulled out the summary for here that addressed through site visits and sitting in on programming that was offered inside prisons and in the community and then also meeting with staff across the state supervision staff across the state in a few different places and so there there's a lot of information the whole presentation around we're going to see Vermont doing really excellent work and where there's opportunity for improvements or for improvements something that we said yesterday I hope it was well delivered or that people really hurt us is that Vermont's in a in a rare position the state and the department corrections through legislative actions through agency leadership actions through the training of staff down to the interactions we've observed with staff is doing really good job of making sure that people who are lower risk with lower criminal or shorter criminal histories are essentially having much less interaction with the criminal justice system the state has done a really wonderful job of working with people to lower recidivism particularly among people who have lower risk many states are working to get to where Vermont is both in implementing and adopting of its base policies and in significantly shifting the populations of people who are in corrections today the challenge is that because of that good work the people who remain in the correction system under DOC control one kind or another are higher risk and higher need and so it's a critical moment for the state to evolve and step up a little bit in what the interventions and the programs look like for those higher risk higher needs people if the state really wants to continue moving forward in safely reducing populations and helping people be successful in the community so a big piece of what we presented on yesterday was identifying the strengths that we see in Vermont and also again identifying where there are to get to that next level of working with a harder population of folks and so this is the summary of a lot of that that I can walk through but again there are many slides that support this in greater detail I would say that the key takeaway for us is that larger text at the bottom which is the positives of what Vermont has built and then the realities of what limited resources have resulted in and the need for some stronger implementation that exists today and then we also spent time yesterday looking at how people with behavioral health needs are worked with or how those needs are met and addressed in the criminal justice system and this is again a summary of several slides that was based on our observations and conversations of people across the state I think the key a lot of this is that similar to what I described in questions which was we had with someone say at some point was it's sort of a triage mentality again we don't have enough to give everyone we want to so we have to focus on who we most immediately have to give that to I think something similar is happening a little bit on the behavioral health side where you have more resources available for people who rise the level of having serious mental illness or who have opioid addiction because Vermont's doing a lot of research for people in between many of whom have co-occurring disorders or mental health needs that are not at the level of serious mental illness and what's available to them is also very disparate and variable across the state and there's probably areas where coordination of care really needs to be improved in order for supervision officers to even know more about what their clients need which is a really good outline and it's something I appreciate that going back to slide 15 at the bottom the Vermont's Connect correction system is increasingly popular by people with higher risk of needs that can be addressed through effective treatment practice and access but limited resources to help the state back I think maybe more of the critical takeaways for me is having our colleagues in the House and Senate administration and others recognize that we are now dealing with a much more difficult group of people in our correction system that we might have been talking about 10 to 15 years ago but the resources that we haven't put into that population require much more intensive resources to hold them accountable but at the same time to have them you know get rehabilitated I think that would be the most important takeaway for all of us to read the full and in that part of the difficulty in getting good people working in corrections when we met at St. Alvin's one of the things that I came away from that meeting with the officers for us how many people they start out with who don't even last a month because it's a really difficult group to work with now and I live you know I'm sure the same thing in Ruffins so I I appreciate this it's very helpful something I want to say Senator I would agree I think that is that's the story I see in Vermont that again you have a harder population than that a lot of states are trying to get there the other side is it's not impossible to work with those folks it just to what you're saying it takes a little bit more and I do want to note something that my colleague David emphasized yesterday which is that from our observations of supervision officers and their interactions with their clients in the community who are really strong and that's not just luck that's training as well the Department of corrections is invested in training that we see how in the quality of the supervision in the officers who we witness and so in that sort of limited view but it gives us optimism that it's an example where Vermont has a strong infrastructure to build on to work with higher higher risk higher needs but it is kind of a critical next step that the state needs to take can I just get definition of higher risk and what types of crimes have these people it's not the crimes it's me yes so crying so when I say risk the and I'm not going to do as good a job as my colleague who's an expert on risk assessments but there are validated risk assessment tools and screeners that the Department of corrections uses to assess a person for their criminogenic risk so an offense and crime is actually not part of it it's a number of other factors it can be the age of their first interaction with the criminal justice system criminal history to an extent comes into that in that same way there are associations there are a number of factors that are assessed that statistically indicate a person's greater likelihood of reoffending and so criminogenic risk in some cases sort of counterintuitively you may have someone who's been convicted of a very serious offense but actually is low risk meaning they'll probably never do that again and that's for a variety of reasons so and oftentimes people who are very high criminogenic risk are not necessarily convicted of serious offenses but other factors in their life lead to a higher likelihood that they will continue to move through the criminal justice system through reoffending and violation behaviors it's a little bit of a different concept and just someone who will go do the exact same thing necessarily but it's based on the number of factors and I'm sure Dale actually will speak to that from much greater detail it's tough to move from crime-oriented discussion to a risk-oriented discussion and that difficulty we fall into that trap as legislators there's a certain crime that we find so important that we want to make sure that there's a long sentence attached to it could be murder it could be aggravated sexual assault but take some of the cases that have been really out-profiled understatement or somebody murdered someone who had tormented them who had sold them into slavery as a sex slave I think there's a woman in Tennessee that received the pardon from the governor who had killed her the person who was trafficking her though she'd probably had no risk to ever commit another crime like that because of all circumstances but somebody else who may be high-risk who's main crime has been forging but continuing to the desire to get the drugs I think when I met with Jim Baker last earlier this week we got talking last Friday he was talking about it in Rutland when he was chief they figured 75,000 was the cost per year to keep a heroin habit going you need to think of all the people in Rutland five years ago that made 75 grand and that was before they put food on the table housing whatever else you need 75,000 just for your heroin so the amount of money that went into that but if you solve that heroin problem I look at what you're saying senator about moving from an offense or crime-based to a risk-based system something else that is not adequately represented in these slides but it's in the larger presentation is where we see the state overall and the Department of Corrections in particular doing that and there are also a lot of slides where we try to represent many different places where the Department of Corrections is conducting risk assessments identifying people based on their criminogenic risk and then how you see that play out in their failure or success rates on probation and furlough and so the good news is again you've got a corrections department that going back quite a few years at this point has and moved in the direction of well let's use these tools to identify people and then specifically connect them to the types of supervision and the types of programs that make the most sense for them and that's again Vermont has moved to that place and now understanding that you know that you have a higher risk population of people it's the next level of what can we make available to them and how can we work with them a little bit differently Any other questions? Mary? Thank you I'm sorry that I missed the beginning and forgive me if I'm asking do you have set of recommendations for next steps we should be taking? Not yet that's the next the working group is coming back together January 22nd and that will be when we come make specific policy recommendations and as much as possible estimates for in tax of what those policies might mean essentially where that might lower populations allow for some savings etc And there's good news Mary Yes with M.I.C. Diane sitting there She's there for the money Oh because When we implement it in the last legislation based upon these recommendations from the Justice Center federal money will be available to us to help implement those policies for the next two years Yep So the funding for this phase of the work comes from the Bureau of Justice Assistance and for those for those oh we ever lose an hour Yeah I would for those states that do pass and reinvest they're eligible to apply for additional funding for colleagues of mine who come and work with the state for a year or two to help implement them and to monitor what the impacts of the policies are and make adjustments to make sure that they're doing what this goes to So funding for monitoring not necessarily federal funding for like housing programs or No it's not direct funding for that necessarily but it is real You said the bridge Yeah I think it is sort of a bridge into you know you just pass me laws now they need to how do they actually work The other piece I'll say though some states can apply for something called the sub-award which is I think up to $500,000 that is sort of direct money to the state for an identified need that would assist in the implementation of those policies further So some states and some other areas that I don't know that they've ever been I can double check I don't know that it's been telling us direct is sort of transitional housing it's a one I mean it's only one chunk of money so it won't be something that would come regularly but states can identify where agency improvements or implementation improvements could be boosted significantly by some additional direct funds from the state what so my first plush at this by the time or anything else I don't want to get the clouds roughly representative Hammond's opinions so my first do you actually say yeah I did we go back I did and it's 514 okay 14 or no yeah my first statement when we get that says you're still pretty early process that we learn pretty well and pp but we're failing pretty measurably and furlough is that a reasonable assessment at this night I would temper that a little which is I want to because it is furlough is just very unique right it's just a different more different wow I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I to our assumption is those are the folks who are coming in and graduated sanctions. So a decent chunk of them are coming in in response to violations that's not a full revocation that in other places where that might happen, it wouldn't go in your prison system and so it wouldn't have this impact. And also, you've just sort of got an interesting design again in the way that Furlow has defined that kind of inherently means the response is going to be a little more punitive perhaps than it would otherwise. So it does stand out, it's very high, but we think there's structural reasons for that, some of which could be addressed through potentially some policy changes. And I'm wondering if some of those structural issues to Furlow is, you know, DOC and what just later has been under a lot of pressure for the last five, six, seven years to release folks to bring down our prison population. And I'm wondering, is there any correlation with that and that the folks who DOC has released because there's been so much pressure, not to incarcerate so many people, that folks have been released, they needed more community support than what we have in place. I would say that would be true almost no matter what with the population you have. I think because we have a harder population than we did 10 years ago. A lot of people coming out of very high residences. That's true for anyone coming out of prison, right? Any post-release, immediate post-release prison or community population is going to have higher risk. And I think the fact that you already have a higher than perhaps normal risk population as far as who's making up your correction system means that you absolutely, there aren't a lot of low-risk folks coming out on Furlow, we just know that that's true. And so yes, they are people who need more in the community and they are not succeeding and when they're not succeeding repeatedly, it's not the first time they're being returned to prison for different reasons and different lengths of time, but not for very long. They're getting grossly up to 90 days. And so it's absolutely a two-pronged thing of the structure of Furlow is problematic probably and then also the lack of other necessary supports in the community for people who absolutely need those things is going to be contributing to that as well. And then that contributes to the churn in DOC. But then can't provide the adequate program and space to the folks who are there that could use it because of the constant churn in DOC's causing moving people around facilities to make space. Yeah, again, we're referring to them as events but 5,800 Furlow return events in four years. That's a lot of events. That's a lot of events. Plus they're getting other folks coming in and out. How many folks do you have coming in on a yearly basis for admission, 5,000? Derby. Yeah, Diane Derby. If I may just add, talking about the federal funding on this front. So we're talking largely NeoJay funding, BJA funding, which is largely technical assistance with a bunch of appropriations that's now passing through the House today in the Senate by the end of the week. It has a lot, I think at the federal level they're starting to see the whole government approach. That's kind of breaking down the barriers. So there's the SAMHSA funding, for example, and some things to really take a good look at because they're, I mean, the MAT treatment that's happening right now in the prisons in Vermont is funded through federal funding as coming to the state opioid response. As is recovery housing, as is transitional, some transitional recovery coaching in the hospital. So I think just to encourage legislators to think beyond NeoJay when you're thinking about these funding. Appreciate that. Absolutely. And the funding bill that's passing right now is really stepped up on that. You were missing, but I didn't thank the Senator for all his hard work on these issues. We didn't meet anywhere near where we are without him and a few others down in Washington on these issues. That's great. I'm happy to keep that in mind. Please pass that on from my entire committee, I think. We're all very thankful that we have them down there. Any other Senator? Is that, are there any questions for them? Well, thank you very much. I think we're gonna be looking at January 22nd and our final meeting, and then on the 23rd, we plan to meet with the various standing committees with the Justice Center on what the bills will look like. The good news bill that Senator Judd shared will start the bill. It'll be a committee bill, and I hope to get it done. We'll clean it up. Absolutely. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Representative Brad, Representative Edmunds, Representative Hoover comes to clean it up when it gets over there. I want to represent the pass, and Shaw will stay out of it. You promised to not mess it up. I thought I'll tell my work partner. Thank you so much. Thank you all very much. Thanks, and have a enjoyable holiday season.


The work that we're dealing with today on the happy life, as I said, it's addressed to his brother Gallio similar to how Cicero's works are addressed to Brutus and so forth They are also in dialogue form, but not nearly as Explicit and clear of a dialogue form with here's the setting here's the date on which we did it Here's the characters that were there and then we try to tie those characters very tightly to The speeches that are given here. We have a much more subtle dialogue form. You might even think it's not really a dialogue so We we have this voice that comes in and gives Objections, but it's not exactly clear if those objections are supposed to be what his brother is saying in response Or if these are general one might say and you might very well write a treatise where you lay out various doctrines and then you consider objections to it and we wouldn't really think of that as being a Dialogue but we do call these works dialogues Because there is this voice that comes in and issues objections and then he responds to it Also, there is a mixture of stoicism and epicureanism in this work. How do you mix? Stoicism and epicureanism they can't be mixed in a glass like gin and tonic can be mixed So how can they be mixed aren't these mutually exclusive? Philosophies that contradict each other on every point from the primary initial impulse that we're supposed to all have To the final end of what all of our actions are supposed to aim at There is also an important element in this work of an apology for his own Life somebody's throwing in his teeth the argument that you say you're a stoic philosopher You say you despise wealth yet. You're the richest guy in the world.  You are the most powerful politician in the world and so he Seneca tries to Explain that and give an apology for his riches an apology for his power an apology for how you say that you don't care anything about luxuries and yet I was at a party the other day where you had beautiful Looking attendance that were serving alcoholic drinks Cooled by ice brought down from the tops of mountains and so forth in golden vessels Right next to silverware carefully set out on a very Luxurious table and yet you don't care about Luxuries and you think you despise all of these things and you think that the cynics are really the way to get to Virtue how does all of this? How do your actual? How's your actual behavior fit with your? philosophical views So here's the parts I want to focus on a claim that he makes early on about his relation to Stoicism the definitions that he gives of happiness the arguments that he makes against pursuing pleasure which are Appeared to be generic arguments against pursuing pleasure that would apply equal Equally to an era stippin kind of hedonism and an epicureanism kind of hedonism But ought one to make generic arguments to those his views on luxuries and the account of his own arguments about wealth and also his approval of epicureanism and how all that works together So the first Point that I want to call your attention to is what he says about Stoicism Here's the quote it's in section 3 I'll pass over without comment the opinions of other thinkers It would be a tedious business to number and refute all of them and ask you to listen to my own But when I say my own I don't find myself to one particular Member of the stoic elite I am entitled to hold an opinion and so all and so I shall follow one Individual I will invite some other one to divide the question perhaps also when I've been Summoned to speak after all the rest I'll shall not attack a single one of the opinions put forward by my predecessors And I will say I have this further observation to make Now that neither says yes, I'm a card carrying stoic nor I'm not a stoic In fact, it says I'm a stoic But I don't I'm not associated with the one particular person in stoicism as we've seen Stoicism is a big philosophy with the long history and you could be more of a Chrysippus kind of stoic or you could be more like Clan these or you could be more like Xeno or you could be more like one of the Roman stoics that Cicero talks about and what he says here is not that I won't be a stoic But that I won't follow one particular kind of stoicism and I'll have my own Voice about this, but now when we look at the definitions that he gives of happiness It does look pretty much like mainstream Stoicism, so here's the first definition he gives this is still in section three As is agreed among all stoics nature is the guide I choose Wisdom lies in not wandering from nature's path and in molding oneself According to the law an example of nature Accordingly the happy life is one that is in harmony with its own nature and The only way it can be achieved is if first the mind is sound and Constantly in possession of its sanity and secondly if it's brave and vigorous and in addition capable capable of the noblest endurance adapting to every new situation attentive to the body and all that affects it but not in an anxious way and finally if it concerns itself with all the things that enhance life Without showing undue respect for any one of them taking advantage of fortunes gifts, but not becoming their slave So making some points about selection and use of in different things like things that come by way of Fortune So he gives that definition of happiness and yes, it looks like one Way fairly mainstream way to interpret the imperative to live in accordance with nature So those of you working on that problem. What do they mean by living in accordance with nature? Here's one kind of answer that we get to that But then he goes on in section four to give several other definitions of happiness Two three four five different definitions of happiness It will be the same thing if I say the highest good as a mind that despises the operations of chance rejoicing in virtue or Here again Here's another attempt the power of the mind resides in being Unconquerable Experienced in life calm in action possessed of much kindness and concern for those with whom it has dealings or again We might offer the following definition that of calling that man happy who recognizes no good and evil apart from a good and evil mind Who holds honor dear and is content with virtue? Who's not the sort of person to let workings of chance go to his head or crush his spirit? Who does not recognize any good greater than the one he alone can confer upon himself and who will find? true pleasure in despising pleasures Okay, so notice various elements of these definitions because They will come back again crucially when he's Apologizing for his own way of life for example when he's apologizing about the fact that he's the richest guy in the world He might come back to this part of the first definition towards the end where he says something about Not paying any undue respect for any of them, but taking advantage of fortunes gifts not becoming their slaves So maybe what he's doing is the richest guy is hey, it's not my fault. I'm the richest guy This just sort of happened to me and I'm taking advantage of fortunes gifts I'm not a slave to them and if I lost all of my fortunes I would still be just as happy as a stoic but in that sense it just so happens that I've got them I've got to make the right kind of use of them or Yes, I'm concerned about pleasure and I engage in pleasures, but the true pleasure for me is despising pleasures Again going on in this paragraph. It's also possible You should wish to take a wider view of happiness to transfer the same notion to other different forms of expression without Impairing or detracting from its meaning for what prevents us from saying that the happy life is to have a mind that is Independent elevated fearless and unshakable a mind that exists beyond the reach of fear and of Desire that regards honor is the only good and infamy is the only evil and everything else a trivial collection of things Which come and go neither subtracting anything from the happy life nor adding anything to it and do not Increase or diminish the highest good. It's inevitable that a man with such a grounding whether he wills it or not will be Accompanied by a continuous cheerfulness and profound happiness that comes from deep inside of him Since he is one who takes pleasure in his own resources and wishes for no joys other No joys greater than those of his own heart Okay, so progressively Defining and redefining happiness in a way that it sounds like You know an undergraduate reading this set of paragraphs may have just thought yeah Yeah, you're saying a bunch of stuff about virtue and it sounds like stoic boilerplate stuff But if you break this down and analyze what he's saying He's got quite different notions and different approaches to happiness in here. Yeah If one is thinking happy life Should not go after the majority of people because The herd we should not follow put a step on them on the same place that they heard it for you Right, so we should have our own our own perception. Yes judgment individual judgment Then here on the third paragraph fifth line. He talks about honor In my opinion on it doesn't make sense without the approval of them of the majority of people They say without the approval of public opinion, right first he denies the judgment of public Then he goes and then says that okay honor is there Yes, okay good point. So that's exactly what I'm getting at that is a fairly problematic thing What is honor honor might require? Approval of other people if I'm concerned about the approval of other people then I'm exposing myself to Fortune because if they change their mind about me Or if they all disapprove of what I'm doing even if it's the right thing from some other perspective then I Lose honor. So how exactly is honor to be? Incorporated into here isn't it a matter of indifference Shouldn't it be a matter of indifference perhaps preferred indifference But is he not elevating it here to some kind of constituent or component of happiness so that it has a Role that it ought not to have that is that is a kind of question We ought to ask about these definitions that he gives of happiness Now the next thing I want to look at is we get some kind of epicurean objections here Where an epicurean comes in and says no wait, but you're on you're you're Undermining the value of pleasure and isn't it important to bring pleasure in and then he engages in some boiler boilerplate like Responses to know virtues greater than pleasure and we shouldn't even try to combine pursuit of virtue and pleasure and then there's a kind of again a kind of Dialogic reply from an anonymous voice saying no no we actually have this more sophisticated view about pleasure. What about that? And then in in section 12 he rants about what he essentially Characterizes as pseudo epicureanism. He says that you get these people who? Actually just use epicurean philosophy as a cover for Indulging in things so you find out that these I thought you were a dedicated philosophy student What are you doing at this kegger completely drunk out of your mind and so forth and they say oh well no I must I'm an epicurean philosopher. Let me tell you about this philosophy. It's dead dedicated to Pursuing pleasures. I'm actually got a really sophisticated view of pleasure is the only Goal of life and I can't imagine a happy life that is connected with things like drinking eating and and a wise philosopher named Epicurus said that okay, and so you get this kind of Using philosophy as a cover for indulgence, and he rails against that pseudo epicureanism, but in so doing a proves of a Kind of real and deep form of epicureanism saying this in section 13 My own view I shall state it though It may give offense to members of our school meaning the stoic school is that the teachings of Epicurus are holy and upright and if examined closely rigorous For his well-known doctrine of pleasure is reduced to small and slender Proportions and the rule that we prescribe for virtue. He prescribes for pleasure. He bids it obey nature, but little enough Luxury is enough to satisfy nature. So where does the truth lie? Whoever applies the term happiness to slothful Inactivity in the gratification of gluttony followed by that of lust is looking for a good Sponsor for his wicked conduct and when he comes along with that persuasive name. He's found attractive He pursues the pleasure that he's bought not the one that he's been taught and Once he begins to think his vices resemble his teacher's instruction He shows no fear or shame in indulging them But from that time on he actually revels in them in full view of men's eyes I will not then follow most of my school in saying that the sect of Epicurus teaches men to practice vice But I do say this it has a bad name. It is Disreputable, but without justification comes the beginning line of response So where does that leave us when there is a true? kind of Epicureanism that restricts pleasure within the bounds of what is connected with virtue and The overall argument that Seneca seems to be making is that we ought to be is that pleasure Will naturally be a result if we focus on pursuing virtue for the sake of virtue and not for the sake of pleasure Then we will get this tranquility Self-assurance and self-confidence that comes with being immune to what happens from fortune and that Tranquility is the most pleasant state that we can be in and that Epicureans are merely confused by thinking that we should pursue that kind of tranquility and that pleasure Directly and even Epicurean say a lot about how you can't be happy and you can't be successful if you Don't do virtue and they're right about that They just should they just shouldn't have been a little bit more careful in talking about what the actual End is but they should not be just thrown out completely because what they say is holy rigorous and correct in a way about getting to pleasure now of course I Think Seneca would have approved of us running out of time in Answering his this objection this long ranting objection Which he levels that himself you've probably heard components of it from other people But is himself trying to cope with this problem use you to say you despise power You're super powerful. You say you despise wealth. You are