Good morning. This is a convening of the Massachusetts Gaming Commission, and we are meeting virtually, so I'll take a roll call. Good morning, Commissioner O'Brien. Good morning, I'm here. Good morning, Commissioner Hill. Good morning, I'm here. Good morning, Commissioner Skinner. Good morning. And good morning, Commissioner Maynard. Good morning. This is May 24th. It's Wednesday, and we have met every day this week. I want to thank the team for preparing us and my fellow commissioners for great work Monday and Tuesday, and today we have our agenda-setting meeting. It is number 146. I'm going to get started with our minutes, Commissioner Hill. Madam Chair, I move that the commission approve the minutes from the May 10, 2023 agenda-setting meeting that are included in the commissioner's packet subject to any necessary corrections for typographical errors or other non-material. Second. Okay. And has everybody had a chance to review them? I'll set any edits, corrections. Okay, Commissioner O'Brien. Hi. Commissioner Hill. Hi. Commissioner Skinner. Hi. Commissioner Maynard. Hi. All right. Excellent. So we have quite a few things. In our notes, we'll get started. Thank you, Grace, for keeping us with an ongoing calendar. So we need to look at that first so that if we have matters that are going to need to be scheduled, we have some dates in front of us. Right now, our dates are through June 29th. So there are some July dates that Grace is proposing, and then some August dates that we can go through. Commissioner Maynard, you happened to be in the office yesterday and you've had some thoughts on perhaps shifting Thursdays. Do you want to go over that? Sure. You never know when your musings are going to become thoughts. I think that I actually said that I liked, you know, Tuesdays for the summer. And really my thinking on that has a lot to do with the fact that I can stay, you know, work from home and do a lot of the reading that we do. And Commissioner Skinner and I actually talked right before this meeting of reading these packets. Sometimes we forget what is what, where I do at least. And so that was kind of something I threw out there, but open to other ideas. And so that would be shifting instead of a Thursday, you know, we obviously are meeting on many different days and we remain nimble. But if we were to go to our bi-weekly schedule to shift, keep agenda setting on Wednesday, but shift our Thursday full some meetings to Tuesday. And I did think about that last night, Commissioner Maynard thinking, well, I wonder how that would work and help the team to if there's some benefit there. So, thoughts? That's my question. We have a, we have a sort of a working back from Thursday in terms of getting the materials in. So what does that mean for, we do Tuesday that have to get it in by what Wednesday, Tuesday, Wednesday of the week before? I don't think so. I mean, do we do Thursday to Thursday now? Yeah, it's supposed to mean by I think close a business Thursday for a Thursday meeting. Yeah. So, that's particularly if there's a vote so the commissioners can review that if they have to take some action, there may be some shorter memos or presents that may be a little bit. That's the only way. Okay, makes sense. Right. I mean, I think made a defer to Grace, my only thought is, you always have to post the agenda, you know, to full business days ahead of time so instead of, we'd have to post the agenda the week before based on my experience which was quite helpful in understanding the process of covering those. That means you have to do it earlier because you don't get that weekend. Yeah, I think for the agenda, at least for the summertime, we could give it a try if the commissioners would prefer Tuesday. The only consideration my mind might be legal who tends to have a front of the meetings and if they think that they're okay with getting materials in for Tuesday meetings then we can definitely give it a try for the summertime and see it works. And that's what the significance of summer is relative to schedule these public meetings. I'm fine with moving the date. But I'm wondering if we should think more long term, because it is helpful to know that, you know, every other Thursday we have these meetings and to be able to plan around them. So, you know, I just, if we are going to go back to Thursdays in September, it'd be good to know that because, you know, we're all planning ahead for things, vacations and holidays and the like. So I want to just make sure that we have an understanding if this is going to be the sum for the summer months only one I would like to understand why to what's the plan comes September. I think it would be up to you all what your preferences on days as long as the staff thinks they can get materials in on time for either Tuesday or Thursday meeting I think it would be up to you all, which ones you would prefer I know Jordan just had mentioned Richard Maynard had mentioned the summertime but I think it's your preference. Just one comment. Oh, sorry from legal. Just to note that the regulation public comment hearings are currently scheduled for Tuesday mornings at 915 so they're just maybe some in the ones that are scheduled out now can't be moved because the notices have already gone out so it's just possible that I think it would be fine but we may need to get some regs to different meetings if we happen to receive a lot of comments that we haven't had a chance to digest and process and prepare to present to the commission at a meeting that would start then at 10. How far out there those schedules. They go out two to three months so let me see what we have. The latest one we have scheduled right now is July 11. I think unless you're so you didn't. I'm sorry. I'm just going to double check that Judy hadn't done anything for those other ones on the chart yet right. No, those notices haven't gone out yet but they will on Friday. Okay. If they change to Tuesdays with that mess you up Judy. I just need to probably run the schedule again. Ordinarily we have our our reg hearings on a Tuesday and I've liked to schedule them about a week and a few days before those Thursday public meetings just so we can take all the comments that we receive and kind of bundle them and work faster so it just like Carrie is saying be a bit more difficult to have that quick turnaround between like maybe a 915 reg hearing where someone's offering comment and then come back together before the commission and give you all a formal more full some rundown of the comments that we received so give me a few minutes I can try to to to run it out and see what we could do. That's all right. Right now because we'll give you us we're going to but it sounds as though we could shift and it would just take a little bit of work for Judy and legal down the road. Madam Madam chair may I add something to this. Yes. It's all shown to be very flexible when it's come to our schedules over the past year. And I'm sure that we'll continue to do that moving forward. I am like Sheldon Cooper from the Big Bang theory I don't like change. And I like having our Thursday meetings and to be quite honest with you. And I've spoken to you Madam chair in July. I have a very special event happening in my life. That's going to take me away between 10 and 12 days. And I worked my schedule around Thursdays so that I could be part of the discussion should there be a meeting during that time. If the family understands that and will have a room for me when I need it should there be a meeting during that 12 to 14 days off. So with that said, if we could keep it the same. I would appreciate it. I understand Commissioner Maynard's thoughts and actually may agree with them but going into July. I've already worked my schedule around Thursday meetings. It's fair. And it's his daughter's wedding if you're wondering what he was going to like he was doing mountain climbing or something. It's, it's not, it's not on a ship where on a boat like job was his daughter's wedding and we're really excited in Colorado. So, Brad. Commissioner Hill and all you know that it is okay for everyone to miss a week. And I, what I do truly appreciate is everyone's attempts to to make a meeting and we are able to because of the flexibility that the virtual platform gives us and so I just want everyone to understand that there's permission to to to miss. And, you know, the majority can continue with that said, Commissioner Maynard and Commissioner Skinner in terms of our commercial variant. I'm, I'm fine with whatever works best for all of you. So, if Thursday works best for Commissioner Hill, for at least to July. How should we. I just want to. Commissioner Maynard first please and then crucial Brian. Sorry, Commissioner Brian, I just wanted to be clear. I'll pull the curtain down a little bit for a second. Right. When we have public meetings on on the end of the week, right. All the prep work goes into the front of the week for the commissioners. And so all the reading all thinking all the meeting with the team. And then you kind of the steam rolls out at the end of the week right after the meetings. I was just trying to reverse that so there was no commissioners here there was no thinking I'm like, you know, is this better for this period is it better not it was really just me trying to reverse for the summer, you know, you know, when I'm when I'm doing my readings and and calling the staff and doing the public portion which is, you know, you know, a lot of a lot of work on camera, right. So I was, that's all it was and so I'm perfectly fine with Commissioner Hill's proposal and whatever I there was just just me thinking that for the summer be nice to switch the work around a little even beyond the summer to, you know, to the point I made earlier it's like if that is what works best in terms, you know, for staff number one and, and also commissioners then I have no problem switching days, but you know, I also want to make sure that it works for all commissioners. So, you know, given that Commissioner Hill is not available because he's planned his whole life around the Thursday meetings as I indicated that we do we all do. You know, I would say let's stick to the Thursday meetings and if you know come August, we're in a position to switch. Let's do it. Yeah, so my, my thoughts on the Thursday I agree with that I mean I think if people have planned we keep with that I think predictability, no matter what the day is going to be helpful for everybody. My hesitation with moving to Tuesdays is my experience in being here is, despite everyone's best efforts it could be difficult for staff to get things into us. And there are times when I feel like my weekend is already spent sort of crash coursing so I know who to talk to earlier in the week before Thursday meeting. My concern with the Tuesday is that it's going to be all the more and we're going to be cramming things in on Mondays to get ready for a Tuesday and so I'm not real fond of the idea of Tuesdays in general because of that I think the Thursday is a better cadence for us to be able to digest and talk to staff before meeting in a vote. I'm not opposed to trying it. I'm just trying to get to two cents based on my experience with just trying to get staffing able to get into us posting getting those, the Thursday cadence seems to work a lot. Well, going to proceed with Thursdays Chris. So you've got some dates that you want to offer up commissioners thing you may have some personal stuff going on. Just get these these done and we'll see if most of these dates will work. Grace I'll have you go through. So as the chair mentioned our last public meeting currently scheduled for Thursday, June 29. So just keeping in line with our cadence here at the next agenda setting meeting would be Wednesday, July 5. I might recommend not doing Wednesday, July 5. I'm guessing a good amount of folks might be out that week. So that's true. And you all don't mind, maybe we double up the week of July 10 and have agenda setting on the 12th and a public meeting on the 13. We'll have 12 and 13 that day that week. Will that be better for probably the team for our agenda setting I think might be more helpful. Commissioner Skinner. Sounds good. And so sorry just one one thing actually on that week I believe Commissioner Maynard is out of town on the 13 speaking at a conference. I would like to do a public meeting on Tuesday, the 11th and agenda setting on Wednesday, the 12 of July. And I did speak with Trudy. And I believe that that is the only the only conflict on that week. And if I have to miss I understand. But you're also going to be in a little bit of a different time zone so that will be helpful right. So that's the 11th. So Tuesday the 11th for a public meeting and Wednesday the 12 for agenda. So you want to start earlier, Commissioner Maynard should be doing nine o'clock start that that day so that you can be up earlier. Does that help you or. So I'm actually to save a little money I decided not to go in on Wednesday for my Thursday. I'm speaking on Thursday. I'm actually flying Thursday morning into Denver from Boston so I'll be a good portion of the day. So we'll do a 10 o'clock start. All right. I don't think, oh wait, if you're talking about the way on the 12, I'm wide open on the 12. Yeah, I think moving, moving the meeting to Tuesday the 11th and having agenda setting on Wednesday the 12 negates Commissioner Maynard. Those are both those are both fine. I'll be involved. Great. Thanks, Grace. Can we just go back up to the 29th. That meeting I'm going to take a look I'm, I'm in the same boat I'm at a conference I'm speaking I think the day before. And I'll just check the agenda because I'm going to try to get to, you know, the, the next day stuff. The only thing if we could maybe think about, if it's going to end up being a meeting, a meeting, maybe a nine o'clock start but let's just keep it as tentative, you know, 10 to 10 for now and I'll take a look at the agenda. Is that okay everyone if we, if we did, if we possibly moved that okay. All right, so we skipped July fifth, we're now 11th and 12th and July agenda setting grace the next one would be. So then July Wednesday July 19 would be agenda setting. I believe Commissioner Maynard and Commissioner Hill are both out that week. Commissioner Hill I'm not curious schedule. So, again, I have put Thursday aside for that week. Okay. What does it do agenda setting right before the public meeting. We could do that too we could do a nine o'clock agenda setting and then move to a public meeting. That's fine too. Yeah, there's a chance I'm out that week as well. If we cannot have agenda that we can clear that week that's safer for me. I can do my best to sort of be there remote to get a quorum otherwise. Okay. It's not in the calendar yet because it hasn't been. Yeah, we're figuring out so we could roll over agenda setting because it would just be two weeks anyway right grace so we could double up on the week of. Of the 24th you would need to double up then I that should work because I think some of the other commissioners as well are out the week of the 17th so then into the week of the 24th. We would do agenda setting on Wednesday the 26th and have a public meeting on Thursday the 27th. Grace, Madam Chair apologize could I just get back to the last week for one second. Could we is there possibility for a meeting somewhere between the 12th and the 20th we'll have three regulations coming back for final approval. The, the comment hearing is the 11th. So it would be difficult to bring those to a meeting on the 11th. And then they need to the first filing needs to go out on the 20th. We have a meeting schedule for the 12th. Oh, I thought that was the agenda. That's the regular meeting. It's an agenda setting meeting. We can tack on a short rag meeting right. We could we could add on. Does that work for you commissioners we could just roll over the Braggs on the 12th. That's for me. Yep. Great. Thank you. Okay. Okay. 27 public meeting. 26. Then we moved into. August. August. So August 2nd. Wednesday August 2nd would be an agenda setting meeting. I believe chair. You may be out on the second. Well, I have my son's wedding. I have my son's wedding. I have my son's wedding. That's Saturday, but I think. I should be. Able to. If we could make that a nine. An agenda setting would that work for you? Cause I bet I'll get on the road after that. And then. We're driving up. That Wednesday. Grace. Rather than that Tuesday night. We're driving Wednesday. Okay. So then a Thursday, July 10th. Sorry, back to back to. I thought we were in August. Yeah. Sorry. That's okay. Okay. August. Is there not an agenda setting? August 2nd will be an agenda setting at nine. Yeah. Okay. Just so that I can maybe get on the road a little bit earlier. And then. But it's going to be really nice weather that week, everyone. Just so you know. I think. I'm sure we know it's going to be really nice weather in that. In July too. So August 10th. Thursday, August 10th would be the next public meeting. Yeah. And you chair may also be out that day. Yeah. And I think I'll be. I may have to have someone take over. It depends on. The burden of my job that, that day, I will be the caretaker of two small grandsons. So, but I just don't know when that kicks in. I think it might be kicking in later. So we'll start. And it will be fine. And then August Wednesday, August 16th agenda setting. And then Thursday, August 24th would be a public meeting. So I'm likely to be out that week or a good portion later in the week. Actually. Now I think. Let me back up. Wednesday, the 16th agenda setting. Yeah. Okay. So that's, that's the week I, I have college move in for my daughter. That following week, I should be okay. Sorry. I'm a little delayed here. It should work. It's, it's agenda setting. It should work. So yeah, let's, it's fine. Let's do it that day. When does she, when does she start? Not sure yet. She hasn't gotten her housing assignment just yet, but we do know that that is the week. So, you know, we'll fine tune those details a little bit later. I think I'll get that done in the month. And that's for a dinner setting. We can always be flexible that week. Okay, guys. And that I'm potentially out on the 24th, but I think you have a quorum without me. Just one second. I have in front of me, your organization requires your device to restart. Right now. We start now. Huh? I would do that. That might be the bios and it took over 20 minutes from you this morning. You shouldn't have the option to delay. Take the time. I'll let my device restart later. I'll do that one. Then it might actually. I'll take the time there. Just went away. Just remember to, to restart it. Kathy later. So you don't have this again. In an opportunity in time. Okay. So Wednesday, August 16th agenda setting Thursday, August 24th of public meeting. And then to round out August. Wednesday, August 30th agenda setting. Okay. And commissioner Brian, you were mentioning when you were going to be out, but I wasn't sure when that was. So that, that eight 24, there's a chance I'm out that week as well. But I think you, it sounds like you have a quorum without me. So. Right. Or if you decide that you need a break from everything else, you can join the meeting. Yeah. I've got to go do my meeting. Block myself in a room somewhere for the day. Yeah. Well, not for the day. Right. Or at the beach on my phone. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. I haven't tried that yet.  I've done that, but not on a beach. Fair point. Can I get on record? I have a, I have a, I have a planned vacation that week. It'll be a staycation. Although. I'm not sure how that will change given the fact that my daughter is moving into college the week before. So I am available on the third, on the 24th. As of now, because it, I don't have anything scheduled for a vacation during, during that week just yet, but I'm just noting that I will be largely unavailable that week. At least that's the plan. And so just, if you could consider that, if we're thinking of moving the meeting to another day that week. Okay. So, and that's some. We could move. We could. And put it on August 29. Well, let me clarify. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Commissioner O'Brien has said that she's not available on the 24th. So I think if there is any appetite to move the meeting for that week to a different day. Now's the time to discuss it. I'm out that whole week. So if you have a quorum without me and you need it, I think you just go ahead without me. I'm likely unavailable that week. But I understand that's the same week, right? Commissioner Skinner. It is. And I'm available. And so I can plan for the 24th. I'm offering up because I heard that the two of you might not be available that week of the 21st. So what if we did August 29th? That's a Tuesday. And then we'd have a Jenna setting the next day. How's that? I should have entered this Tuesday. I got, yeah, I got a Tuesday meeting in the summer. I was just going to say, I prefer the week, the week prior, but whatever the majority decides is fine. I would prefer. Wait, is that my, is that. I can't tell anymore. No, I, I. The 14th was fine. We could double up. The 15th and 16th. Is that what you're saying rather than the 30th? If we were to do that, we wouldn't have a public meeting again from the week of the 15th until September. So just flagging that. I'm not sure if that is realistic for. That's not what I, that's not what I'm suggesting at all. Oh, well, we used to just. Yeah. In the olden days, we used to actually only have like one in July and one in August, if we could, if we could get away with it, but I know we're back up right now. I was saying, I prefer it to, to stay the week of the 21st, rather than go to the following week. But I'm fine with the majority. I'm also available the following week, but. You know, it's better for me if we stick to a regular cadence. Michelle, Brian, are you okay? Then if we stick to the. Yeah. I think if I think, yeah, we're, it's just, I think once in a while we're all going to have to start missing once in a while to keep a regular cadence going. So if I am out of pocket, it looks like you got four without me. So that works. Okay, everybody. Let's think about what we'll put on the agenda for that day. Teasing Commissioner O'Brien. I was going to say, I may, you know, by the reserve votes on something, if it's something I really want to be there for, but hopefully we can just keep the business moving without me. We'll be, we'll be mindful of that. I'm teasing of course. All right. So it sounds like we've got a plan.  I am mindful of the fact that in the, in the summer that family vacations occur and wedding is occurring. And so we want to make sure that the team. Coordinates well with Karen and. That our meeting schedule isn't so taxing, but we can be flexible and able to get stuff done. You know, maybe it's a half an hour meeting here or there. Okay. I don't know. All right. So we've got those dates in place. No, I already know the answer to this, but will you get the hold out today? Thank you. Of course. Okay. So we're turning to our next public meeting. I'm just going to keep on. Actually, Madam chair, I just wanted to make sure that we have a good meeting. Okay. So we're going to have a good meeting. Estimated time to genders. Going forward. Yeah. Grace is going to do that. Great. We beat estimates this week. Monday was really a good, a good meeting. So. Thank you. But Grace is going to do the time. All right. So starting with May 30th. That's our next public meeting. Next Tuesday. Next Tuesday. And. We're starting at 1030 AM. Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to have our administrative update. Karen, I don't know if there's anything in particular.  You're on mute, but. There are a lot of hand motions. Yeah.  I'm not sure we would really need it. I know this meeting was set up for the community mitigation fund issues. So we can take it off the agenda. If you'd like just to screen. All right. And then we may have minutes. Judy. Yeah. Okay. And we'll take up legislative update and regs. Oh, go ahead. For you. We're leaning in. All right. I just meant to clarify. We'll have regs for June 1st. So the next meeting. Okay. So no, much state of update and no regs for the 30th, but we will have a sports way during that. Yes, we, yes we will. I believe fanatics indicated that they have a small amendment to their waiver that we did yesterday. They called me in a panic yesterday afternoon. I should have that to you today. Okay. And then, I think you have a couple of house rules. We have three separate. House rule updates. Each. Are approximately 10 minutes. For timing. They are for fanatics. The MGM and. MGM Springfield. And then. Okay. The three licenses changes to the. Remaining for the credit language. Okay. Madam chair. Yes. Can we keep the legislative update on the 30th? Because there may be something we want to talk about. We're not exactly sure. And if it doesn't come to be, we'll just. Not talk. Yep. We'll put it. We'll put it down. I'm not sure. But we're going to make sure we're doing that. We'll do that. We'll do that. Certainly. And it's a possibility we may have some updates for. Okay. I only did that because I was thinking of it being a community mitigation fund, but we were expanding it and makes good sense. Thanks. It would be very quick, very quick. I can show you. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. And then. Our sports waiting and then we have. She's going. Yep. We're good to go. Okay. And what, how much time? I know.  Joe, what do you think? Well, we have more applications in front of you this time. I don't have the exact count, but I think it's somewhere around 20 or so applications. I mean, if we did each one of them in five minutes, that's a that's 100 minutes. So that's, I mean, I would, I would definitely plan on, you know, somewhere between an hour and a half and two hours. I can talk faster. Well, we want, we want to give all the right time for questions and everything, but you don't need to talk faster. We will allocate the right amount. Okay. Grace, are you all set? All set. Anything else that's urgent for the 30th for the team members? One other issue. I think it could be on the 30th or the first, but it relates to the 90 day audit that we've talked about on a number of occasions. I think we're going to be ready to bring a part of that back to the commission for consideration and possibly an extension of the regulatory timeframes. You like that better for the 30th of the first grace. Do you have a sense of how long that discussion might be? I'm not sure Katrina do you have a sense as to how much information there is to digest. Well, I think there's two parts to it. Todd, the first part would be seeking the extension for the 90 days, because we still need to do the assessment on the independent technical experts. And so we're still collecting data from them. So it really depends for that second part that we would be presenting to the commissioners our findings. Maybe a little bit later. I think we've got it. Yeah. So if it's just an extension of time, it's probably in the 15 to 20 minute range. Okay. Well, the 30th is Tuesday. So is that, and that's a holiday weekend this weekend. Is that going to be too quick for you all? No, I would, I would be fine with Tuesday if that's okay with Todd. Yes, that works. Okay. Let's do Tuesday. June versus a pretty heavy legal meeting as it is. So we can break that up a bit. Okay. All right. Anything else for May 30th? Let's turn to June 1st. Okay. Got an update. Madam chair, I guess the only question I have on that is we had discussed the COVID vaccine requirement. And I know the commission requested the truth to get a little more information. I'm not sure we could get that. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure if you have any time for you to digest and then, and put it on for the first. I don't know if you have any thoughts on that. What works for you? Yeah. I think the, the first may be a little quick. For me, I still haven't been able to gather the information, but I will try to look into it. So. We'd be happy to push it out a little bit. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for that. I'm wondering if we tack that on, because I see for, if we push that to June 15. I see Karen, you're going to be out of town. And I think that might be. And it's a little bit of a difficult meeting for me. Cause it's already ending up perhaps four to five hours long. Yeah. I, that's the date of my flight, my flight. I got a double check maybe in the evening. So I may be able to participate in at least some of the meeting on the 15th. So I don't know if that's helpful. I want to see how the travel plans are. We could add it on to agenda setting on the 21st. That makes it a little bit later. We'll, what if we keep it, let's keep it on the 15th. Okay. The folks mind if we did start. At nine on the 15th set possible for folks. It's my college reunion. Yes. To miss any fun. Yeah. Thanks. I'm not hearing any nays. That's good. No nays. Okay. I hope I don't. Let's, let's keep it. Okay. I'm going to figure out that schedule. Nine or 10. Depends on that mountain climb the night before. Okay. All right. So back to June 1st. We'll put COVID over. And I do think it's really important to. Learn everything about IEB. And the legs, And the legs. And the shoulder, And the shoulder. It's a piece to the troop. Yes. And we'll coordinate with. With that. Okay. Let's see what we're going to take care of it probably on the 30th. And so, Grace. Yeah. Okay, we can always roll it over if we need to. Minute meeting. Sorry. Judy. It will be December 15th. Then we move into regs. Good morning. We can add Judy on to this one too she's been leading the charge, creating these. We do actually have a draft we haven't yet had a chance to circulate it internally. So. We can move forward with this, but I'm not sure. It will have been vetted. If we were to do that. At this junction. Could you say what that is again. Yes, absolutely. So these are new regulations governing the licensing process for horse racing. For the new track. And I would prefer to be able to share that. In house before we move. For commission review publicly, but we're not quite there yet. So I guess what I'm saying is that if we could maybe bump that one a week or three that would be helpful at this juncture but if we need to move forward with it. Okay. Okay. And that will be until June 29. June 29. I think, yeah, I think we're very close. So that would be helpful if that works for everyone else. Okay. And then. So, and the ADW regulations, so you company them all together. Yeah, I think they're all kind of one sweet ADW regulations actually are not being prepared at the moment we're working on the license. We're going to do the piece first, but they're a component of that so it's on the list. Okay. All right. So you'll work out with grace exactly what you want for the 20. Okay. Sorry, all the regulations were kind of bundled there we do have sports wagering regulations for the first. And that's the data privacy regulation and then 138 what we're calling sort of the auxiliary regs 138238 247 and 248. So those we do still one on the first. Yeah. And grace has that list. And so that will be under just regulation for additional regulations, the sports wagering. Okay. So please repeat the sex. Absolutely. So for the first it will be what is now going to be 257 the data privacy reg. That's the main reg for discussion. And then we will have 138238 247 and 248 and the very two second overview on the history of those is at a previous meeting. So we're bringing those back for a handful of discreet changes. So those should not quite be very fast. The main reg for that day is data privacy. Thank you. Okay. So sports wagering, we've got that standing item for us. Anything. No, I think you. Yes, for June. So for June 1. When legal presents 247 we have a follow up after legal presents with the form for events and wager approvals. So the form itself for weight. Is it wager and event approval. It's a petition that they can either petition for a new event or a or a new wager yes. Racing application review. That also needs to be rolled over or are you all set for that. I think we need to get the regulation so you can probably even take that off for now. I think we need to get the regulations done and then we can come back with the application to make sure it's consistent with with the regulations but it's Yeah, it's associated with the other one. Are you okay with that. Yes. Okay. Then we have the S for issued Alex. Good morning. Good morning. Yes. I was asked if we could move that to the 29th and a family issue that came up. Okay.  He said a conference. He all set for the picture license plate report. Yes, they are all set. Okay. And then we have the initial review of the school year. To be able to. Commissioner Skinner you're all set with that. Yes. Okay, thanks Sarah. Okay. Anything else for the first. Oh, there you are. Thanks. So I just had a new veterinarian which is considered a racing official work yesterday. And so I use the delegation of authority to approve him, but that needs to come back before the commission. Just for to appraise us. Correct. Not a vote. Actually, I'm not sure how that works. If you guys vote on that again, or if you just, if I'm just surprising you. I think the delegation. We do want that memorialization of the delegation race. That should be. At some point on our list. I know legally you've got a long list, but we want to get that done. Okay. So commissioner Maynard and commissioner Hill. Can you and Todd, can you remember under the delegation? She just can do it. And then she just comes back and updates us. Is that right? Or is there. Yeah, I think that's right. Well, I don't think we voted. I don't think we voted on the revised delegation. So it would be under the existing one. Correct. And as long as this particular matter falls within the original one, I don't think we voted on that. But. I thought the way we left it last time we talked, because there were going to be some revisions to that document. And it would be brought. Back before the commission for a vote. I thought we had a consensus on in general, although I hear what you're saying. We technically did not finalize the load on the final parchment. Right. But. I thought that we had a consensus. I don't think this changed that. I think it was just a notification. On that. And then when they come up at the end of the year, right? In the cycle, Dr. You can say this, we, we then look at them again, but as you're going, it was just a notification. Correct. Well, I think I would defer to Todd, but I think. I don't remember when the commission voted. On the delegation of authority back in, was it 2013? I don't remember when. So I think that, you know, there needs to be a vote of this commission on the revised delegation. And I just turned to talk. Can you remind us that we actually voted and then said, could you memorialize the document? Or if we. And we're going to memorialize and then come back. I, I, if you asked me 10 minutes ago, I would have sworn the commission voted on it, but based on commissioner Skinner's comments, I'm not that sure right now. And somebody checked on that while they're, we're going through this so that. Then we'll come back to Dr. like that was matter. So I'm sure one of the lawyers can find that. So that'd be great. Please. My memory. Yeah. Okay. And so for Alex, it's either going to be Alex in any way, in any case, we're going to have you on June 1st. To update us and possibly we may have to ratify. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Anything else for June 1st? Okay. Let's move on then. And we'll go back. June 15th. Okay. I'll get back to everyone. I appreciate your flexibility around that. Administrative update. That could possibly be the COVID if Karen is available. Otherwise, push COVID to the next meeting. Meeting minutes, Judy. Awesome. But I just, I was just looking at something else. Okay. So let's see. For the 15th, we'll have December 9th, December 29th. So two sets. December 9th and the 29th. Okay. Then legislative update. We'll see if we need that by that time. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Great. Thank you. And then we have. Okay. Okay. Extend that waiver out to that date. Is that Caitlin? How it was left? I think the waiver was longer than that. If memory serves. We have had, we're planning to bring advertising back. Give me one second on the 29th. So I can double check. The waiver, I think goes through the 30th. I think that's right. So. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. So the 29th, we'll turn to 256. And on that waiver, right? That would be the only issue on advertising. At this point in time, but you know, things can change. So. We'll see. I remain hopeful. Okay. So.  I'll be right there. So regulations, you're going to swing back to grace. I know that commissioner is going to, you asked for the list, but as soon as grace gets the list, you'll be happy to distribute that list to you. I don't know how the commissioners want advance. Notice of which grants will be covered. But she can distribute it. Anybody can ask grace if she has it. Okay. So sports wagering. My guess is that we'll have more house rule changes by then. But we don't write it. This moment. Okay. I also think that we'll have the lottery update for you by them. The lottery update from the operators, the mobile operators. Oh, good. If you want it that day. We'll have it ready. And so that will be from each operator. At this point, I can circle back with what you guys prefer, but I planned on just putting together an overview report for the next couple of months. Okay. That may make sense initially commissioners, and then we can invite back folks for questions. Does that satisfy you for the, the lottery update? I've seen. Nauts. Okay. I like that approach. Crystal. Thank you. Just a reminder. For the sports wagering, Bruce and. If we are bringing in. Members of the operators team. I think it's important for, I know that you're going to get the name and the title for grace so that we can have a good, I know that you're going to get the name and the title for grace so that we can have that information in advance. It's always really helpful if you, if our team is able to really be. And be able to answer basic questions without having the. Operators individual sort of have to chime in the other day. The individual is wonderful and just chimed in. You know, but it's always harder for us to ask questions. Of the operators team that we might ask you. So again, to the extent that you can anticipate what we might be asking and get yourselves. Really well versed on that. That's helpful, but we are really appreciated in that gentleman was very helpful to us the other day, but it occurred to me. I might make that suggestion only. So that we can all feel really comfortable. Asking. The tough questions of our team. So that we don't necessarily make that operator feel. Unprepared. That's mainly my concern is asking. I'm never going to be, none of us will ever be concerned about asking our team members or something you can't answer because you can just, you know, get back to us when you're prepared, but it's always a little harder when it's. Okay. Thanks. I don't know if you understand what I'm saying, but just in terms of. Daryl and Bruce being able to, you're going to get more and more comfortable with the kinds of questions we'd likely are going to ask. Hi. Then we have, we have a couple more things, and then I'll turn to Burke. How many applications for that final review of that day? A lot. It's like 26. Maybe all of the public safe. So it's, that's. I'm, I'm having eights because it's going to be such a long meeting and I probably should have. Figured out like a better. All right. So it's going to be long and we've got quite a few regs as well. There was another item in sports wagering as well. A lottery. And what was the other one? The other one, we would like to put a placeholder. We've had several requests by the operators. So we're, we're hoping for the form to be discussed and approved. So we're hoping to get that back on June 1st. And then the operators will be able to use our new form. To request approval of new. Events. For their. For the catalog. So we're hoping to get that back by. At least the end of the month. The request has been made. So we're hoping to get that back on June 1st. So we're hoping to get that back on June 1st. Unformally now to us. 29th. Do you think that might work? Oh, I apologize. I thought this was for the 29th. Well, this is for the 15th. Okay. I apologize. We could. All right. Then I'm wrong too. I don't know why I thought we were on the 29th. The lottery update will be the 29th. Okay. That makes me start feeling better because. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Then we have, but we also have game sets. The quarterly report. Karen, I'm wondering if we could roll that up. The. Mark is away, but. I would. I'll take the responsibility to say that that can be. Okay. Hello. Hello. I think it's a jump in on the beginning of the 15th. I was thinking maybe a casino update. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been thinking about a couple of topics. If it's the 15th or the 29th, whatever fits the schedule best. Ending the other subject matters. If we could, I'd like to recommend the 29th of that to Karen. It's fine. Okay. Thank you. And we will really welcome those updates really helpful. Okay. Thank you. Karen, I don't know if that anything that Burke would want to do an update on might also require an executive session. So you can think about that as well. For any kind of full sum updates. So Madam chair on the 15th. Also legal reminded me since I'm doing the first drafting on the officer succession presumptive nomination policy. I don't know if that would be really the only way for me to distribute it without violating OML is to do it at an open meeting. So what I'd ask is that we have that on just purely for distribution of the draft on the 15th. And then we can put the vote on. After that, but that way at least it can get out to everybody else. Great. Okay. So right now, then we would really have a potential. So for the first few minutes. Some, some rags. Limited, limited sports wagering. Nothing anticipated for right now. And then our full sum. Community mitigation. Final review and I've asked really the game sense update to be done. At a later date that might disrupt the game. But given that I'm out of town and using my friend's bedroom, I am trying to. And I think there's going to be a line for the internet. I'm hoping it all works out. But I can also leave the meeting and have someone take it over. So thank you. I just don't want to miss community mitigation. All right. So now we're turning to the 29. That was the other one that I've been at different time zones of potential nine a.m. start. I mentioned earlier about data conference. So now we have work with the administrative update on casinos. Anything else Karen that you can anticipate for that date. I don't have anything right now. Okay. And then I don't know if you have your dates now for that. For minutes. And it's okay if you don't. Sorry, toggling back to my large spreadsheet. We will have minutes from. January 3rd. And December 22nd. Before we continue, I'm just wondering if anybody found. Whether we voted on the delegation or if we. Depending the memorialization to be able to track that. I think we have to actually look at the meeting to determine that. So we can't do it until we get off this meeting. So we're, we'll have to do that after. Actually, Judy was able to do that. I don't know. I don't know. I was never taken commissioner Skinner was right. So we will memorialize.  So does, I guess for the question is with respect to the, the task, I think that was the word used in the delegation. Does some. Do we have any questions? Do we have any questions? Do we have any questions? Do we have any questions?  And do we have to have. For June. I think Dr. Legman already. Acted on the request from. Oh, you did. I thought you were going to do it. I'm sorry. Right. Yes. I acted on the request and. I'm assuming that under the old. It was under the old delegation. So. And I guess the question is just if the. The commission. Wants to vote on it themselves when it's brought forward, or if. You just want to be notified by me. Under under the old delegation. We'll leave it to Todd to tell grace if we need to mark it up for both. Okay. Sounds great. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. Back to the 29th. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. No, let's play the update. But it is near the end of the year. So maybe commissioner Hill. I'll stay tuned. I would put it on. Okay. We can always remove it. Right. Thank you. Thank you. And then regulations. I know that we. We're looking at. 56. Yeah. I think we'll have at least two on that date. I think we'll be bringing play management back for a final vote on that day. That's all I have right now. But again, Sometimes things you have to know and add something. We also added the racing regulations. From. In the first. The which one grace. No, the racing regulations that were on an earlier agenda. Yeah. Thank you. And then the escrow, right? Yeah. And escrow. Yeah. Okay. And then the final. Sports wagering. We've got lottery. Updates as well as the form update. For the event. Anything else, Bruce? We could possibly have a couple of house rules. Like I say, by that time. Yeah. Okay. If you're logging, it's not the form update. It's the form update. For the 29th, it will be the operators submitting. The forms. Thank you. Really important clarification. So it reminds me. We probably want to revisit that. Which I believe will be discussed on the first. 247 is being brought back by the legal department. Okay. Is that the brag that will, that says that any person can. Final event. Yes. Yes. And we are planning to bring back a revision to that. In line with the commission's prior conversation. Okay, great. Thanks. Thanks, Darryl. Okay. Absolutely. Final review of the budget. Mr. Skinner and Derek. Good to go. Right, Derek. Yes, we should be good. And this is only the outside date. If they're on substantial feedback, then this can go on the 15. I believe we were going to keep it on the 29th, because Karen is going to be out of town on the 15. Okay. Yeah. So my update. If my flight is in the, I'm going to double check on the flight time. If I can jump in on the 15th, I can coordinate with Derek. And if we need to move, if we can move it up, if I'm going to be around. And the 15th is the long community mitigation meeting. Right. I think chair, you were trying to not have additional items for that day. But if there's, I think I'm hearing Derek say, if there's something that really required us to address the comments, we would do that. And we would make the budget a priority. Certainly up on me, commissioner Skinner. So thank you. Yeah. Thank you so much. We'll just keep that in our back pocket as our. Okay. And if maybe we could even go on a different date. Right. If Karen is not available, we'll go on a different date. If there's. Reason to not go forward on the 29th. Okay. I'll set on the 29th every one. Do we have something else to add? I think we're going to want to put the vote. On the presumptive nomination and rotation of officers on for that day. So we're going to have to wait until the vote is final. And we're going to have to wait until elections on the 11th. To cycle in with the 15th is the start date. I had it noted. I didn't mention it. I'm sorry. Okay. Dr. Light. The jacket. You should be ready for the recognition of them as the group representing the majority of the jockies. Okay. That should be all set. On the 29th. Okay. Anything else team. Okay. Joe, you will be, you're anticipating everything done for community mitigation. I got my fingers crossed. I'm not available on the 29th. So. I am, I am very hopeful. The open sea somewhere. Okay. Okay. Joe and I share a lot for a particular northern Vermont lake. You know, there's a cheese called will be cheese. It's very expensive, but it is will be Vermont cheese. So you might want to take that on your vacation. Maybe I'll think to buy some of it for you. Within ethics. I could do that. Or you could share it with the office. There we go. Okay. Okay. So we have that then. And now my notes are now to under review. I want to just pull the calendar again. So starting with the 11th. We've got as commissioner of Brian. I just pointed out, Grace. We would have the boat. Or the actual officers. Right. Michelle Brian on July 11. So now under review. The process. Yeah, that's, that's still under review. Okay. Uncle or Boston Harbor. Oh, we have our. Yeah. So we've got an additional public hearing scheduled for June six. And then. At some point after that, we need to come back to the commission. With, you know, if you remembered our last meeting, we're trying to determine what an application is going to look like from on core for, for, for like a formal submission on this project. So the next step in that is to get back to them on what, what we want to see. And, you know, we put out that memo the last time I've taken a lot of notes from our previous meeting. We'll hear what we hear at this public hearing. But I don't think. I would say maybe at that first meeting in July, we would, we would, we would do that. Just there's really no time between now. And the 15th when community mitigation fund has to be done. I don't really have a whole lot of bandwidth. Until that's done. So, and I will be out that last week of June. So probably that first meeting in July. And I think we, we could try to finalize a letter to, to on core requesting certain information. Any questions for Joe about that commissioners. All right. Why is pretty. Hopefully when we get into the summer, I can start putting more detail into the smaller subset of the working group. Okay. I don't think Bonnie's here today. He is not on, but they did reach out to me. They're hoping to have that done at the end of June. So hopefully you can add it to that June 29 meeting. Okay. And we don't have, but that might be also when we have the game sets. Can you send an email to. Okay. Mark and Bonnie in the long grace that your earliest convenience so that they know that. That they would need to reschedule that with their. Game sense folks, please. And then. Richard Skinner, the HCA compliance update. Yes, please keep that under review. Okay. So, that's it. So I'm going to be back in a minute. I'm going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in about 20, 29, right? So. I'll step there. So, kind of operations. Have we heard from. I've reached out to them yesterday. I haven't heard back. I'm going to call them next week to see if they'll give me an answer of. An anticipated date. January of 2024. Those are the only two that we have left currently. Yeah. I think I'm interested in hearing from Valleys pretty soon. The other DGC, they were very forthcoming about their timing with us and when we issued the temporary licensure there was an understanding commissioners if you recall about their delay and they explained their delay in great detail to us. I'm interested in finding out when Valleys is going to get going. Last I heard Valleys indicated that they're waiting to get this new platform and if you recall I had sent out an article that they have a new platform. When I sent the note to them two days ago I sent it on top of the article about their new platform and requesting some date or a quarter when they might start but they have not responded to my notes so I think a phone call would be appropriate next week. Right. We're reasonable but just wanting to understand commissioners I don't know if you agreement with me or not but I'm just interested in getting them going if possible. Yes. Okay. Thank you. Event catalog additions I think we're good right? Yeah that's still pending with you know that's kind of an ongoing subject. Right. But we've made a movement on it with the two dates. Yep. Okay. And the same across rules ongoing. Yes. We also I know there are some changes that have been adopted by one or a single operator that we decided should apply to others. I think if you could coordinate with Grace some kind of a process to do that in one sweep of anything retroactively so that we can get to the present that would be really helpful. Yes. I think we're doing that like with the not accepting credit and credit cards and that right now and I think we've heard from all the licensees. Correct. I think we acted on the credit one didn't we I think I think we have one or two to approve. Correct. So the credit to my understanding was included in the draft Kings I mean my apologies the Fandle one that was presented earlier all of the operators that didn't have it were asked to change they were they all submitted their change it was not heard by the commission yet and so the ones that have also submitted changes on top have been pulled out so that there's only three left that just are going to be an isolated memo with that slight change. Do we have to so the ones that adopted the credit language are doing we haven't approved that yet is what you're saying. Correct. Okay review of the risk-free advertising. I'm wondering where that is Caitlin because I don't I don't see it as an under review with Commissioner O'Brien and Todd I think that that's something that our regular regular review of our regulation should be that should be a matter we're working with Nina on that it comes before us full discussion I don't see that as being something that's separate and apart not sure why it's under review this way. So I had brought it up at the last agenda setting asking that we the commissioners have a conversation about what we wanted to do we wanted to take another look at that particular language to make sure that our intent was being followed by the language and so I think it was put out there for because I asked for and because Todd and being hit illegal was going to spearhead making sure that was ready for all five of us to talk about. Yeah I think I actually said we want to clarify our intent I think I used that word first and so it has been a discussion among all five of us so I think that should be brought up as a priority right Commissioner O'Brien. Yep. Where are we on that Caitlin? I think we need to have some internal conversations about that and figure out the way in which we want to bring it back and present it there are a number of different sort of interrelated issues that I think we'll want to touch on so you know it's interesting I happen to see in our PowerPoint that was presented to us who presented the PowerPoint RSM and yesterday they did say it was in the public one but the American Gaming Association's responsible marketing code for sports wagering states that no message should suggest engaging in sports wagering is without risk or utilize quote unquote risk-free language. Note the term free bets or risk-free has caused concern over if term is factual. While sports book operators refund the initial bet when are lose it's done so in the form of credits it can be applied to future bets. That is lose these credits the initial state has also lost some examples include this language within the presentation as this is how they are and were presented online so RSM actually addressed this in yesterday's presentation. I think Commissioner O'Brien my thought was that we could still have some examples but have language that would outline our intent in the right I don't know if that's what you were thinking of other commissioners I don't know what you're thinking about I'd like to get to that sooner than later. Yeah no I would and I know Mina made a comment that you could make an argument that our intent is in the current language but I think we all agreed we wanted to take a closer look at it because we were getting things like when are lose or you know so kind of is it skirting the language and our intent basically so we wanted to take another look at that particular section to make sure it was clear. We move it up to our next meeting and we can all chill on it even if you don't have the exact language I know that probably makes you feel uncomfortable Caitlyn. Well let me just if you don't mind let me just add this this wrinkle this provision is in play in an upcoming adjudicatory hearing and so I think we should pause on having that conversation until after the adjudicatory hearing. I'm sorry to interrupt but I actually thought that public policy allows us to review something even if it's in the course of an adjudicatory hearing a good good policy or. I think you absolutely I mean it's a it's the commission's decision I think in the past when this issue has come up where there's been a reg that's been the focus of an adjudicatory hearing and the commission has wanted to talk about it we have deferred until after the hearings so that if we if we move this out until after the hearing which is not that far away I think that would be in line with what the commission has done previously I think the commission could talk about the reg in advance it's it's a question of what you want to do do you want to sort of have a fulsome conversation about a reg that you're then going to have an adjudicatory hearing on or would you like to wait data the hearing Caitlyn I think it's it's June 7 June 7 I think um in the past maybe that we when we um decided not to I don't know if it was the same circumstance where we were trying to improve um our regulation that's what I'm just wondering because I I know that I pointed to this in the course of my career um so just so June 7 I mean if we're if we're being totally honest I'm not sure we'd be prepared before June 7th to have to to bring back what you're looking for so it might make sense to put it after that if possible is is there a way to at least get you guys to do a really short memo with the relevant section of the reg to us that would be great for June 1st just for the 30th or it would be great to I apologize uh commissioner right I don't I'm not sure I understand the ask so when we brought this up the last time my memory is that Nina said he felt there was an argument to be had that the language currently covered and therefore would have prohibited something like win or lose would have also been within that prohibition but there was going to be a look-see at the language then it was going to come back if there was suggested tweaking if we can even get the site and the specific section of the regs so that we can take a look at it the five of us in the meantime yeah that that we can do yep we can absolutely do that and then June 7th is the adjudicatory hearing um so the next day it's the 15th my favorite meeting um when we're looking at the 15th to grace for the other no the other advertising rag would be uh issue will be on the 29th we could put into the 15th this issue otherwise could we make sure that we are addressing it by the 29th absolutely and my apologies there's kind of missing that um grace on the um on the under review all right now 90 day audit yes we're still waiting on that to be get approval of the companies to to complete the 90 day audit and that's in the works right now with our it department and licensing we need to do any take any additional steps on that are we okay cod it's coming up we just we talked about it at the beginning of the meeting you're going to talk about it in a week or so yeah on tuesday the 30th thank you mr i wrote it i noted it differently okay succession of officers felt we're all set now for the 11th um the mission statement is um um something i wanted to bring up um i'm working on a working group to look at that so i'll keep everybody updated um so um another issue of maybe i should turn to the team anything else before we move on from our under review okay one thing i wanted to bring out commissioner is um i have the pleasure of of meeting in person the um executive director of michigan's academic control board um Henry williams uh recently and um interestingly enough in our panel discussion i i mentioned independently the need for any commissions to elevate the discussion around how we can extinguish or put out of business the illegal markets and mentioned that it probably would be through reaching out to the department of justice attorney general garland and and executive director williams agreed with that and probably at that point in time wasn't in a position to be able to update the group that we were speaking with about an initiative that um michigan took with several other states to send an exact letter to um uh attorney general garland on april 28th they issued a letter and i can tell you the states that signed it it was um nebada gaming control board new jersey division of gaming enforcement michigan gaming control board illinois gaming board colorado division of gaming louisiana gaming control board and this is simply game mission and they um wrote a lot of addressing um how they were urging the department of justice to prioritize combating illegal offshore sports books and online casinos i know that we speak a lot about how we have to strike the right balance from and the legislation had a straight right balance and setting a tax rate how we have to strike that right balance and even looking at our advertising and other regulations so that um our our legal and regulated market can in fact repeat what we illegal market and and actually hopefully put them out of business so uh today i just thought i would mention the letter and then have gray circulated to the commissioners but i'd like to put it on for um i guess perhaps our next meeting it might be brief um to see if um and perhaps mills could draft a mills had in mind a a cover letter where we might be able to say that the Massachusetts gaming commission um you know echoes the sentiments that that um these um gaming uh regulatory entities set forth in this april letter something for us to think about i had wondered if you know we should ask other states that weren't included in this i think there's real valid reasons why these folks were working together they've been regulatory um partners for a much longer time and in in this sports waiting world than we have and so they were working on this effort and i um i think you know other states may follow our lead but given that we always operate in public it's a little hard to orchestrate that kind of a group thing uh but i wondered if we might want to take that initiative and say we we join uh rish is i'm careful not to get into too much substance but i wanted to see if we were amenable to me putting it on the agenda for the next week michelle varian that's fine absolutely okay mr skinner christian manor all right so grace um i think you have a cop thank you christia tell i think um we um let's have a couple of letters and if you could circulate that and then maybe mills something it um mills i think you thought something very simple um and perhaps you know draft something for our consideration and then we would mark it up and decide if we're going to put our names on okay thank you um and and i did let um the executive director in michigan you know know that was a possibility and he was very generous to share the letter with us okay um there was a a press release two mills that went out with it some um but the letter wasn't attached so maybe mills you can pass around the press release two thanks all right um incident reports for sports wagering Bruce uh was that something that we have to talk about right now or i not not necessarily we have all the uh uh like patron complaints and things as far as the incident reports uh soon we'll have them in a uh a new program that's very easily searched that crystal hit had found and that would certainly be available to all the commissioners to search if you're looking for a particular subject or whatever it's uh something you can search so you and Karen would coordinate that with us yes okay excellent thank you um one um uh follow-up and i i know that uh director lily else isn't here but karen if we could just uh think about this for an upcoming meeting um we had um an executive session on general matters about safety and we uh we have a follow-up meeting but we don't have that scheduled yet so if we could think about what that um how that might work and that would be an uh an anticipated executive session okay anything else commissioners that you're having under review on on your mind legal anything that we're missing how's that how's that um not seeing anyone with their hand up or light on that it grace it should be it um for anyone who added um agenda items to the meeting on Tuesday the 30th i will check in with you today because we will need to post that agenda tomorrow so i'll just need to look with you um this morning otherwise we should be all set okay i'm keeping track of so that's um next Tuesday correct yeah the holiday on the day yeah yeah thank you so much a holiday on monday and we'll be very ready to go on tuesday morning actually i have a request in that regard um just when materials excuse me materials are being sent to grace um i mean i'm speaking for myself as one commissioner i'd like to receive those real time just going into the holiday weekend um i want to make sure that i have adequate time to pay i would better what looks like a pretty hefty meeting on tuesday so grace um gets materials from the team members um um and on an ongoing basis does everybody want her to forward them to you the reason why um we don't necessarily forward have like every member of the team forward it to every commissioner is because at a certain point in time we can lose track of to what is the most current version so um if you need grace to send them to you um just enter an email and she'll show forward so we had been doing sorry please um grace let the serve as the request as soon as you get them i mean i know you're doing your due diligence creating the package preparing them but i for one would love to get them as soon as you have them um and you know i won't make i won't ask staff to go to the trouble of sending them to me directly um you know if this process works grace whereby you're just forwarding stuff as as soon as you get it so the way this used to work was once grace got it it was in a shared drive in a folder with the date on it for the meeting and so we would have the ability to go in and check as well um so that if she wasn't you know able to forward immediately or whatever you would at least be able to cop in when you were ready to access it so i don't know if we continue that practice or how it's being kept otherwise and that works too um just mindful of you know any additional burdens put on you grace um that that is my general process as soon as something is sent to me i add it directly into a shared drive folder which i believe everybody does have access to so um and i can share those holders as well for the most part um within reason um i do send them as close to as when i get them as possible um obviously if i'm expecting a couple other things in the next hour or two i might hold it to save your inboxes but commissioners can i i'll make sure absolutely get it the second i do um and there is a shared drive folder that has the materials in real time as well which i can share thank you anything else commissioners are you all set all right it all bounds out we've got a few Tuesdays in there a few Thursdays and probably some Monday and Wednesdays and occasional five so it all full circle um i'll make a motion to adjourn commissioners it looks like you're ready move to adjourn second all right and if there's a discussion uh commissioner o'Brien hi commissioner hendryl hi commissioner hi thank commissioners hi and i hope yes have a great day everyone thank you so much


I'm back and it's time to get honest about Canada's forest industry part two. Fighting number two. Canada doesn't report on how much total forest area has been logged to date or how much forest area remains unlogged. This means we don't even know how much damage has been done. If we were a forest-dependent species we'd be paying much more attention to logging's total impact on the landscapes we call home. Canada also compares the speed at which they log to the entire size of a forest as opposed to a much smaller parcel of land that is actually valuable to log, which means we're clearing trees a lot faster and the real logging rate is much higher than Canada is admitting. Speaking of deception, finding number three. Canada's state of the forest report doesn't cover biodiversity impacts. How can we look at the state of the forest if we don't even consider the animals living there? Sensitive species like caribou and spotted owl have been plummeting in recent years, yet you'd never know at reading Canada's annual forest report. We know that these species are declining because of loss of habitat, including by forestry practices that have been certified by industry as sustainable. Every year the Canadian government puts out a glossy report putting a green spin on how our forests are doing. Here we explain why the report matters and how we can fix it. So far we've talked about Canada counting clear cuts as forests, the definition of forest degradation, and the truth behind logging rates and biodiversity impacts. In the next video we'll touch on how Canada's report doesn't accurately portray forestry carbon emissions. Stay tuned for more. Get involved at the link in our bio.


Today we're opening old Yu-Gi-Oh products from your childhood. What's up, guys? We're back with another epic video. Today we are opening the old Yu-Gi-Oh products from your childhood, assuming that you are around my age, maybe even a little younger. You guys remember this 2003 Gear Free the Iron Knight 10? We also have this GX Special Edition, which came out, I think, one to two years later. It might have been 2005, like early 2005 for this one. It has the promo elements. We'll hear a wild heart. So for this 10, this is going to be open for Conor C from ruxant34.com. Go check that out for other old school products. They don't have to be open. You can just get them shipped sealed to you, but Conor wanted it open on the channel. Then we have a GX Special Edition. This was sent in by Northern Cart Collectibles to be opened and given away for you guys. So we're opening these packs and then giving all the pulls and the elements of Hero Wildheart to one of you guys. All you have to do is like this video, be subscribed, and let me know your favorite product from back in the day when you were a kid. It doesn't have to be either of these products, just anything that you remember. And finally, we do have, I know, you're like, what, more Grand Creators? If you guys remember that live stream, Pot of Greed to Three? Honestly, they can bring it back. I mean, I thought we opened the entire case. It turns out I still had 16 more packs. We did not pull a fourth collector rare, so it's almost guaranteed to get one in here. So we're going to kind of mix these together, but we're going to start off by cracking open this GX Special Edition. It's very oblong and hard to show on camera. Inside, we do get the... It's actually a misprint Wildheart where it doesn't have the Secret Rare foiling, but it has the Secret Rare name. But every single one is like this, so it's not really that special, but it's still very cool and unique. So there's an Elemental Hero or Elemental Energy. We have a Lost Millennium and a Cybernetic Revolution. Let's see what we can pull out of here. First, we're going to open up a Grand Creators and see if we can pull that missing collector rare. This was from one box that I pulled a couple of packs out, and then I realized... Literally, I pull this like every time. And then I realized that I had hid them away and I didn't open the entire box. So when I realized that, like just a second ago, I was like, we need to open these packs because we thought that we got gipped out of a collector rare, but it turns out we didn't actually get gipped. We just forgot to open some of the packs. And the rest of that case was crazy, too. If you guys missed that live stream, go check it out. We pulled absolutely insane in terms of the cards we won. Psychic Tracker Exabedal. Oh, a punk! That's back-to-back Ultra Rears. Wow, back-to-back Ultra Rears right off the bat. So maybe that's all the good pulls. Okay, let's go into an Elemental Energy. Anything pulled in this pack is going to be in the giveaway. So make sure you guys check that out. Hit the like button, subscribe and all that stuff.  Let's hopefully we can pull, like, the cover card. That would be crazy. I've never pulled that card, ever. So that would be pretty awesome to pull it for you guys. Let's go with the branch himself. Beige Vanguard of Dark World. Jethonian Palmer. Level Modulation. We've got Familiar Possessed Area. VW Tiger Catapult. Weed Out. Hero Barrier and a Nano Breaker. So just a Hero Barrier that time. All right, let's see if we can get an Ultimate Rare. That'd be pretty crazy. Grand Creators. Come on, guys. Let's get some crazy out of this Grand Creators. We could pull Tarantula. We could pull E.T.E.L.E. We could pull Solon Strike. We could pull, of course, the Adventurer, AKA Brave Engine. That would be pretty big. The Punk. Okay, I got Punk. All right, okay. Injector Hornet. Wielder. So this is probably going to be, like, the last Grand Creators opening we have. Not ever. I mean, I'm sure at some point I'll open this again, but, like, I don't have any more packs. So, like, there's no reason for me to open it unless we, like, find it at Walmart or something like that. But at this point, this is, like, pretty much the end of Grand Creators for us on the channel. Castile. Exo-Sister. Ellis. I mean, we've pulled way too many Exo-Sisters at this point. We just need to retire the set. I still want that last Collector Rare. So we pulled the Water and Changes Collector Rare on the live. Can we pull the right Collector Rare in the same case? That would be pretty massive. Xarelom. Danelle. Injector Ladybug. That was a dinged card. Okay, we got the Gabrine and Hidden Armory. Okay, another one. Come on. Give us something good before we go into this Lost Millennium pack. So we've already pulled two Ultras. I don't remember if we pulled an Ultra out of the other ones. Otherwise, if we did, then there's no Ultras left. Good pull. We got the XCs at Universe, Rise Bell and Injector Hornet. All right, let's move over to the Lost Millennium. Let's see if we can pull the man himself. Ancient Gear Golem. We could pull Flame Wingman. We could pull Rechef, the Dark Beam. We could pull Elemental Hero Thunder Giant. These are all really cool cards. And of course, Brain Control. All right, so we have a dummy Golem. Double-A Attack. The Monk Fighter. Picaru's Second Sight. Ancient Gear Soldier. Elemental Hero Sparkman. Battery Charger and Royal Surrender with a White Ninja at the end. All right, nothing again in that one. Okay, Grand Creator. So far, we're a little underwhelming. We got to pull a couple of bad Ultrarairs. We pulled nothing from the GX Special Edition. We still have the Ginzo, not the Ginzo 10. The Gear Free 10, a little bit different. Both Joey 10s, though, from that year. Caspital. Zeck Caliber. Punk Rising. And Zector Dragonfly. Cool card, but we have many, many of those at this point. I think this was like 20 packs. So I think I only opened like four, maybe, of this set. So maybe we didn't get the other Ultrarayer. That would be nice, because there's a lot of good Ultras, or a couple of good Ultras we want. Strike. We've got the Denel. We've got the Insector Sword. The Ga-Ga-Ga-Punk. We're gone. All right. We're gone. We're gone. And we are, yeah, officially struggling. We are officially struggling in this video. All it takes is one big pull, though. We got a Hoppa. We got a Punk. We got a Denel. We got a Punk. Magical Warrior. Dragonback, or Draco back. And the Irene. Just another rare. No. Let's open the Cybernetic Revolution pack, and then we're going to crack into that Gear Free 10, and we can open the rest of those Grand Creator's packs. Can we pull something cool? Let's go. For the giveaway. We got a Doitsu. That's awesome. Can we pull a Cyber and Dragon Ultra? Cyber Dragon's super rare, something like that. We've got a Tadpole. That's awesome. Pots of generosity. Be generous. Give us a Cyber Dragon. Shanspai. Doitsu. Fusion Recovery. The Spiritual Wind Art Miyabi. Poison Drawfrog, and Elemental Hero, Bubble Man. Just a rare, but it is the Bubble Man himself, the Bubble Master, the Man of the Bubbles. Yeah, I know you guys want that. All right, that was a cool pull. While it was not a great pull, it was still very cool. That would be a very awesome Ultimate Rare to pull. Like, that's one of the best ones in CRV as a rare. So let's see. We've got Exibito. We've got Azar Alarm. We're about to open this tin after a couple of these packs. Ties of the Brethren. Punk. Another Punk, Spider, and the Irene. There's still so many packs of this left. Like, more than I thought we had. I was thinking it was like 14 packs, but it's really like 20, so it's a lot more. We have another Wild Picking. I'm just gonna skip that Castel Virtual World. Asaphiel. All right, one more pack, then we're opening this tin. We're gonna get into Conor C's Epic Polls. Hopefully something really good, because so far we have not had a great pull yet in this video. We're kind of hoping that we will, or hoping, not opening. Hoping. Exo-Sister Armament. We've got a gogy pull. We've got the Carp Devin. Hidden Armory. Oh, oh, Insect Imitation. Double of the same Ultra Rare. Awesome. Okay, does that mean we're gonna get four Ultras and no Collector Rare? That's what happened in the first box of this one. So I wouldn't be surprised if it had to get, that was supposed to be the last pack, but then I kind of got distracted. Castel, Nannan, Breath of Resurrection, Force of the Lost Flowers, and Torrential Tribute. Did this thing just give me false hope? Do we actually still only have three Collector Rares? That's gonna be a bummer. Hopefully not. Okay, this Gia-Free 10. Let's see what we can pull out of here. We have Gia-Free the Iron Knight. All right, so inside we have five packs. We also have a promo, which is at the very bottom with no protection, which is always scary with these 2003 10s. Let's see how it looks on the front. Front looks pretty nice. Centering is actually a little off, but it's not too bad. Now the back moment of truth. Wow, this is clean for a 2003. It does have a little bit of the scuffing, but compared to some of the ones I pulled when I opened like every 2003 10, if you guys remember that, wow, those were in terrible shape. So this is actually pretty good for Connor. I don't think it's PSA 10 worthy, but it's definitely like pretty near mint overall. Okay, and now we have these five packs. Legend of Blue Eyes. We've got Metal Raiders. We've got Magic Ruler, which is, yeah, it's still Magic Ruler, but it says SRL, I think. It's like the weird mixture. Then we have Pharaoh's Servant and Lab at the Nightmare. All of them are red banner because they just changed that over from the original Konami logo at this point. Okay, let's go into one Grand Creators and then we will go into, I think, Labyrinth of Nightmare first is probably our choice. We will see. We have Injector Centipede. Starlight Papillon. Got the Zekt caliber. We've got the Emergency Teleport. Exo-Sister Stella. Okay, just the Stella. Now let's go into a Labyrinth of Nightmare. Can we pull something crazy like a Magic Cylinder Secret Rare? Can we pull, what do we want? Like a Dark Necrophere would be pretty cool as an Ultra Rare. There's a lot of really cool cards. Let's do three just to be safe. We're gonna go with Lightning Blade. The Garuda, the Wind Spirit. The Emperor's Holiday. Bio Magee. Aqua Spirit. Spirit Elimination. Skull Lair. Oh, and a Last Warrior from another planet. Whoa, this is one of my favorite cards. This would have, if I had kept thinking about other cards I wanted, this would have been like number two or three. The back does have some pretty significant scuffing to be honest, but this is still an Epic Ultra Rare out of Labyrinth of Nightmare. This is a really cool card. I've always really liked the artwork. I mean, just check him out. It looks amazing. Like if you had this card as a kid, you're like, this card looks awesome. Problem is I can never summon it. All right, so Connor definitely broke the streak of bad pulls. He pulled us something epic, so that is good to see. Let's see if that'll, bless me with the Collector Rare out of my packs.  So it's pretty funny. We're all opening up packs today. It's pretty fun. Let's see if we can get a Collector Rare. We'll pull three Ultras out of these. So far, no Collector Rare. Next, we're gonna open up Ferro Servant. We got a Magic Core Warrior. Okay, and not too much there. Now let's go to Ferro Servant. We started off with an Ultra Rare. What more can we ask for? I say a Secret Rare. Secret Rare. I take another Ultra, Super Rare. I'm sure we'd take anything at this point. All right. Here we go. It was three last time. We have the Bombardment Beetle. Type zero Magic Crusher.  Invitation to a Dark Sleep. Goruchin Kuwagata. Souls of the Forgotten. Gust. Insect Barrier. And Morphing Jar Number Two. An iconic classic Morphing Jar Number Two. Pretty cool one.  Back to Grand Creators. We have a few total packs left for this opening. If you guys have enjoyed it, make sure to subscribe for more epic content, because we'll be coming up. You guys know. You guys know what's gonna happen. So just subscribe. We got a Punk. We got Exo Sister. Exo Sister Ellis, which we have pulled a million times. I just pulled so many Exo Sister cards. So now we have three of each pack left. So let's do this. So we end on LOP. Yeah, let's do this. One more of these. We wanna end on Legend of Blue Eyes. We have Insecta Hapa. Arm it. Go, you pull. Carpidivium and Hidden Ars. Wait. This is gonna be another Ultra, isn't it? Oh, it's another Ultra, but it's a good one. Rite of Edremacere. There we go. This is the most expensive Ultra in the set. So it looks like we are gonna get a three collector rare case, but we pulled a $60 card out of this. So this was totally worth opening. All right. Thank you, Connor. You definitely did that. All right, we have Magic Ruler. This is the weird Magic Ruler where it's also Spell Ruler in the same pack, which is very odd. So let's see. Let's do this. See if we can pull something epic. So as you guys can see, no it is MRL. Wait. Oh, it says Spell. That's what it says. Spell on the Spell cards. Yeah, there it is. Spell card, MRL, which is very weird combo. And it says Magic Ruler on the pack. So we got a Dark Zebra, the red archery girl. Koto Dama. Octoburcer. Octoburcer, whatever you wanna call him. The Hungry Burger. The man is hungry. Speaking of that, I am starving right now. And Commencement Dance. So that just reminded me. Anna, send you of the 10,000 hands. Another rare, but a very iconic one to me at least. Okay, two more packs. If we do get like a four ultra, one collector rare box, that would be pretty insane. I mean, that would be pretty awesome. We got a Centipede. We got a Star of the Papallion. Emergency Teleport. We've got the Breath of Resurrection. Thunder Discharge. Sector Hornet. Wait. Oh, Breath of Resurrection. I just missed it completely. Onto my favorite set. Metal Raiders of the Look.  It's a little chunky. Got a little bit of a chunky pack in here. We're not fat shaming the packs. I know, guys. I know. But... All right, here we go. What can we pull? Can we pull the legendary? Pocainium Moth. Here we go. Pump King, the King of Ghosts. Guilty of the D-Nite. Electrical Lazard. Legal. The Germ Infection. Man, guys. That reminds me of 2020. I don't know about you guys. We got the Angel Lizard Warrior. We got the Seven Colored Fish. All right. Seven colors, including the lips. Killer Needle. And Ho-Shingen, the Starman. The Man of the Stars. Final pack for me. And then we go into the Legend of Blue Eyes, White Dragon. The best set of all time. Besides the Metal Raiders. Okay. Wild Picking. We got to start with Papillon. Ties of the Brethren. Oh, we rocked the special. Right to the Breath of Resurrection again. All right. Still an awesome box for me. I'm happy with it. Now let's get into Connor's last pack. He started off extremely hot. He got a nice near-mint promo. He got himself an ultra rare last warrior from another planet. Three straight rares though. So can he redeem himself with a Legend of Blue Eyes, White Dragon pack? Where he pulls the Blue Eyes, White Dragon. I mean, I'm down for that. I'm totally down. We've got a Yorabi. We've got a Two-Mouth Dark Ruler. He no time. Armored Staffish. Mizorizame. Yami, yami, yami, yami, yami. Oh, there it is. Yami, yami. Let's go. Yami, yami, Mizorizame. Yami. Okay. Let's stop with that. Whitty Phantom. That was just too much. Kagemusha of the Blue Flame. And finally. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Excuse me, sir. Can we get the Blue Eyes, White Dragon out of this jar? We're gonna need you to remove this jar. Open it up. We're gonna need our Blue Eyes, White Dragon because it seems that this trap card took our pull. We got scammed. Dragon Capture Jar. There's a Blue Eyes in this pack, but I think it's stolen. I think that's what happened. If you guys enjoyed this video, make sure to subscribe for more epic content. Shout out to TCG Trusticard's Toneflow show, Tomato Juice, Stanley, Mike, Nance, Mimic, Echo, Daxter Ian Moosa, Jr. Barting, Anana Thai show, and JT Cho. Thank you guys for supporting the channel. And I'll see you guys next time. Peace.