This is Think Tech Hawaii, Community Matters here. Bingo! We're back to four o'clock block. I'm Jay Fidel. This is Think Tech. This is Hawaii, the state of clean energy. One of our longest running shows, actually. That's Sharon Moriwaki, co-host and co-chair of the Hawaii Energy Policy Forum. Aloha. And we have three segments today, okay? One is Jim Kelly. He's that guy. Hi, Jim. Hi. He's the vice president of corporate relations of Hawaiian Electric Companies. We have Wen Kanseho. He's with Hawaii Energy. He's a communications specialist there. And we have John Cole, HNEI. He's an assistant specialist. I'm somehow going to find out what he's specializing in here. Former PUC commissioner, by the way. So Jim, first I want to tell you thank you very much for the support you gave us when we went last Thursday. Hawaiian Electric provided two people to help us on the trip. It was organized by Fred Riddell, the commissioner of energy of Maui and Moriwaki, of course. And we had Todd Tanjo. Todd Kanja. Kanja. Yep. And Chris Reynolds. Reynolds. Yep. Of Maui Electric. From Maui Electric, right? It was all really, really informative. And we got great footage. We're going to put it on OC16, the first class trip. Thank you. Good, good. Well, I'm glad it worked out. It's a really interesting place with a lot of interesting things going on right now. Yeah. We saw that and we love to go to the neighbor islands because we had this whole world view of bringing the islands together and having one island know with the... In fact, the guys, the commissioners and coordinators from around the counties are coming for a meeting at the end of the month and they're going to compare notes about energy and climate and all that stuff. Oh, really? It'll be very interesting. And Fred is involved in organizing that in Waikiki. French good guy. Yeah. And it's good to see the counties get together that way. So Jim, you had a press release. We wanted to follow up. It's more interesting than a press release. I mean, that's the setup. Oh, you guys had a press release. Okay, well, thank you. No, no, no. Can we reframe that question? Yeah. Okay. Making news. You're having a program about electrifying transportation in Hawaii, which is a very important initiative. Yes. And you're having a meeting where everybody's going to get together or everybody got together. Yes, we had a meeting. Yep. We had transportation and energy. Who was it? Where was it? What happened? Tell us. Well, we did. We had the first workshop of its kind last week. We got about 60 people together to talk about how we move forward on electrification of transportation, not just EVs, but also talking more about public transportation, heavy equipment, trucks and buses. There's a big push on the mainland now. A lot of delivery fleets are starting to switch over to electric, and so the purpose of the meeting was to really try to get people in the room together who could talk about, okay, we've kind of gotten past the original hurdles with EVs and getting people to accept them. We have the second highest rate of adoption after California EVs. So people are kind of gutting over the range, anxiety as cars are now coming out with longer range batteries. So what are the issues for the utility in terms of infrastructure, being able to support people charging? What are the public policy issues? There was a lot of discussion about the potential for the tax break that the feds give right now. There's some discussion about getting rid of that. How can we make, you know, EV ownership continue to be appealing? And also, what's in it for, again, businesses, public agencies? We had somebody from the city and county there talking about the electric bus that they're going to have for a pilot program here. So there's a lot of really, we had people nationally from Ford and Lyft and Proterra and some others. Oh, great. Everybody. Yeah, so it was really good and people were very enthusiastic and it's kind of one of those, I guess, spirited and also kind of rare instances where everybody's really together with the understanding that this is a worldwide phenomenon. I mean, this is a global shift that is happening away from internal combustion vehicles and equipment. And Hawaii is perfectly positioned to take advantage of getting aligned with that worldwide global shift. We're not the tail end of it. We can be right in the middle of it. Maybe even a leader. Maybe even a leader. Some interesting talk about autonomous vehicles and, you know, so, right. So it was really, people were very, very engaged. It was a good conversation. So it's one of what nine workshops you're doing? Yeah, we just started with this one and we're going to keep going, see how it goes. Okay, great. That's fabulous. What was the biggest takeaway from that? Good question. I mean, so what is the next step? What is the next session? What came out of it, do you think? I think one of the bigger takeaways was the understanding that I think people have or are starting to have about how the electric vehicle infrastructure fits in with the entire grid, how it, if we do this right, this can be a great thing because we want to have people charging their equipment and their cars during the day when we have all this solar available that we don't want to waste. We don't want to have everybody going home at seven o'clock and charging up 25,000 electric vehicles. That's not a good thing. But if they do it during the day and there are incentives and we make it easy, maybe with mobile workplace charging, then it can really help the grid be stable and also frankly allow more renewables to come on because there will be a place to put that energy. I'm really impressed how Hawaiian Electric has bellied up to this issue. You put in charging stations of all kinds all over the place and you continue to do that and you support this. You organize a program like this, you talk it up, you create incentives and it's the nod that really makes a difference. Here's the utility coming around saying, you guys ought to do this. It has a tremendous effect on the community. So really it's beyond the call. It doesn't necessarily earn you $1. Well, thanks for recognizing that. But you're doing a community thing here. This is really valuable. Well, we think it can be one of those rare things that's a win-win for everybody, the individual customer for the community and for all of us. Well, thank you, Jim. Thank you for coming out. My interest is always, it's always good to see you guys. He likes to see more charging stations too. More charging stations. Okay, we'll work out. Thank you. All right, we'll take a short break. We're going to go to our next guest, Marvin Winconsejo from Hawaiian Electric. Oops. Hawaiian energy. Yeah, well, you know it's a lot of people. Yeah, we're all. It's all one big ol' honey here. One big ol' honey. Yep. Thank you, Jim. Thank you. Aloha, Jim. Thanks for coming by. Come anytime. This is Think Tech Hawaii, raising public awareness. Good afternoon. My name is Howard Wigg. I am the proud host of Code Green, a program on Think Tech Hawaii. We show at three o'clock in the afternoon every other Monday. My guests are specialists from here and the mainland on energy efficiency, which means you do more for less electricity and you're generally safer and more comfortable while you're keeping dollars in your pocket. Yes, videos are basically... Okay, we're back. We're live. We're here together, all together. One big family, right? Yes. That's Sharon Moriwaki over there. She's a co-chair, co-host of everything. What are you drinking with? It's Marvin Winconseo from Hawaii Energy. Hawaii Energy. That's fine. That's perfectly fine. You're everywhere, Marvin. And we work closely with Hawaiian Electric. And everybody else. So, you know, no, there's no problem with that. We love Hawaiian Electric. So, Marvin, you know, the word has it. It's just gossip, but word on the street is that in a week's time we'll be right smack in the middle of Thanksgiving. You know, isn't that wonderful? Check your calendars. No, but really, I mean, first of all, how did that happen? 2017 just evaporated. Evaporated? Holy moly. But, you know, we are entering the holiday season and Thanksgiving is almost upon us. And, you know, it's a nice time for us at Hawaii Energy to really be thankful for the folks who we help, who are helping others.  But who helps the helpers? Well, first of all, we want to thank all those who give the major contributions. I mean, those who give money to funds for these programs, they wouldn't survive without that stuff. But at Hawaii Energy, you know, we also make sure that we, as best as we can, take care of these places. And one I'm talking about now is Honolulu Habitat for Humanity. We recently finished a retrofit of their facility in Kalihi. They're restores what they call it. It's their secondhand, if you will, store to help those, you know, trying to build homes, and they raise money so that they, too, can build homes for others. And we've got about a little bit of videos. We all take a look at the retrofit and hear from the folks involved with helping Honolulu Habitat for Humanity. Yeah, that's great. I'm going to tell Jim that we visited Molokai in the trip last Thursday. We saw, you know, some of the people, and they are very appreciative of things that Hawaii Energy has done for them.  Well, that's great, because we did just finish the latest chapter of the Who We Up program where we were able to deliver at a cost. It wasn't all free, but at a cost to $20, $50, we recycled their refrigerator, give them a new one. But the difference with the nonprofits that we help is we take care of everything. And not necessarily that we pay, but we have our contractors also volunteer to help, or they donate the goods needed, like the lights and stuff like that. So for Honolulu Habitat for Humanity, the bill would come about more than $11,000 for the total retrofit. But not only our program, but through our contractors and all the workers. Yeah, exactly. So if I'm a contractor or an ordinary person and I want to find out more about this program and what the benefits might be for me, where do I look? No, come to our website. And we just revamped it. So it's snazzy. Well, you just go through our homepage and over the menu it'll say... HawaiiEnergy.com. That's a good name. It's easy to remember. Write that down. If you can't best this exam, you're in real trouble. Yeah, but we have it for residential, pro-natal homes, as well as large companies. Companies. So Marvin, as we go closing the end of the year, can you give us just a moment on how the year has been and what you plan for next year at HawaiiEnergy? Actually, the year's been great. We've been able to help a lot of families, help a lot of companies and hotels. And in fact, when we just visited recently, we'll be highlighting later, is the brand-spanking new international marketplace. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's great. So what did you do? They did a great job with all the LED lights. Looks terrific. Their chillers are upgraded. We encouraged a lot of the new builders to do what they did, which is it was built into the design. It was built into the plans. And that's the best time to attack energy efficiency. The cheapest way to do it. Except some people get put off by the idea that it's a little more expensive up front, but over the long run, with the energy savings. Well, at the end of the day, I think you guys have done a lot to train people to educate them about that very principle. Yeah. And as time goes by, at least in my observation, more people understand that. They understand that step in time saves nine. They understand that. You know, to do efficiency really has all kinds of secondary benefits. And I think for you, for having done that, directly and indirectly, you've changed public opinion on this issue. Well, it's good to hear. I appreciate that. And small businesses, too. In fact, we just ran into Jane Sawyer in the elevator, you and I. Yes, we did. And she and I are going to get together. She's with the United States Small Business Administration. And yeah, we're going to talk story about how we can do even more for Hawaii's small businesses as a principle is you never know what's going to happen on an elevator. Thank you, Marvin. Thanks for coming down. Great to talk to you. Oh, we got a movie? Let's take a look. Let's see the movie. Our mission is to bring people together, build restores a way that funds that mission every lighting retrofit company to help us with this project. They helped us in every step of the way from getting the fluorescent bulbs recycled to getting these products donated to getting the team to come in and donate their time and the things that we don't have the scissor lift to get up to this, you know, ceiling heights and just from start to finish they've been a huge impact for us and an awesome partnership. Non-profits, they they don't have the knowledge or the capability or the time to do all these types of things or the capital to do all these retrofits so I'd like to as much as possible help out the non-profits and see what more energy can do for them. We love to help out organizations actually so we work with non-profits during Christmas time and we give out school supplies and baby bags to unfortunate children and then we work with different organizations so we thought why not help out another organization Habitat for Humanity and we just, you know, we really appreciate what they do for the community and we wanted to give something back to them. I can already see the impact that it's brighter and lighter that's better for our customers, it's safer it showcases our products and it's every month knowing that our electricity bill that's going to decrease is perfect. I have to explain what that was all about. Well, as I mentioned earlier that project would have cost $11,000 for but since then since they flipped on the light switch after all that was done each month they save close to 800 kilowatt hours a month that was $210 a month and so that comes up to be about $2,500 a year. Yeah, a 31% reduction in energy usage so, you know, again giving back to Honolulu Habitat for Humanity for all the work that they've done we do it for other nonprofits as well if folks out there give us a call visit our website but, you know, there's energy savings to be had we're going to make sure that you go and get it. So nonprofits only? No, well we have different programs for different sectors, no doubt about it. That helps the... Well, for example we work closely with the City and County of Honolulu that's another most recent one where they've taken the steps at various buildings to retrofit, yeah and here come the incentives City Council has to approve the expenditure but of course it's done, I mean it's obvious and there you go, but yes, we do help we have little silos for each one but we're bound to find the right package for the right sector. Thank you Marvin. Very good. Great work on the video. Happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you guys. 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Thank you and we're mahalo for watching Think Tech and your generosity. Okay we're back. I told you and I told you we'd have John Colback former PUC commissioner and a specialist at HNEI consumer advocate. I mean we could go on. We don't have enough time. John, HNEI that stands for Hawaii Natural Energy Institute it's embedded in the university it's very important to energy because you guys do research but there's more to it. Can you tell us how the evolution is going? Oh right. HNEI we do a lot of research on specific technologies. We have solar research anaerobic digestion, biomass a whole bunch of different areas that folks do research in there but we've been shifting a lot of focus into integrating things into the electric system like the variable renewable energy which is presenting a lot of challenges so what we've been trying to do lately with our policy team and some of our other resources at the institute is to help do some independent analyses of the electric systems and try to inform decision makers like the PUC with those analyses. So we're calling this show HNEI Moving Beyond Technology I thought that was a really provocative title. I'm going to ask you what that means. What does it mean? You can have a lot of great technologies but they need to all work together or be integrated into a system that works efficiently and cost effectively hopefully for everybody. So that's a lot of what my work has been. I've been managing a lot of projects that model the utility systems grids and generation and looking at increasing levels of variable renewables like solar and wind and the challenges that brings to the utility systems grid and then looking at mitigations or how those challenges can be overcome and making reports public and eventually sometimes the utility takes those recommendations. There have been times where the PUC kind of had to twist their arm to take recommendations but we try to provide some independent analyses to help inform the decisions that are being made as we transition from renewable. So it's actually integrating various technologies which people may not realize can work together can be synergized in some way to perform some larger task and this is surely so in connection with the improvement of the grid which have so many technologies and so many issues about putting all the pieces together and really there isn't anybody at this technology over here this company wants to sell you this company wants to sell you that so how do you put them together this is a really important question I would call it HNEI moving toward technology leadership because you're really identifying what technologies are going to be leading the group of technologies. There's a lot of stuff out there new technologies and new businesses coming in like through the entrepreneurs and the accelerators and things like that who have technology ideas but we have to make sure they all can integrate into the system. I'm forming a company doing some entrepreneurial thing I'm dedicated to my company my idea, my technology and I'm not necessarily I could but I'm not necessarily interested in integrating that with somebody else's. Right and how it all works together we get a lot of pitches from these technologies as HNEI does for technologies that we're not necessarily looking at or developing ourselves but we get people coming to us and asking us how this might fit in so that's part of our role as we see is helping to integrate not only the new technologies but the wind and solar as the levels increase present more and more challenges so trying to figure out how all that can work together and keep things reliable and stable. This could be pretty sophisticated but I know we're utility John I'd be reading your reports voraciously that's what I would be doing I hope they are. I think they do we actually work with the utilities when we do our modeling and not only the utilities but the PUC and other stakeholders and experts as we develop scenarios as we get initial results we get together and they help us review it so we make them part of the process so we're making sure as HNEI we're not missing stuff trying to do things that are of value to the community they don't have the flex that you have they don't have the scientific resources perhaps that you have so I want to ask a question on behalf of Sharon maybe suggest it to Sharon to ask you a question give us an example of a problem and the disparate technologies and the solution you do not have to name names however if you do name names they will be very appreciative I'm just going to pick one that from a few years back we did a modeling study with GE on Maui and they have a lot of wind as you know and we made a recommendation in one of our reports that if they changed how they operated their fossil fuel burning units you know maybe put their minimum runs down a little more and didn't produce as much power with those units they had a lot more wind on their system and less curtailment right exactly and they didn't do that initially and eventually in a rate case decision the public utilities commission kind of tweaked them a little bit on their rate of return and told them to implement some of these recommendations and they did tweak the operation of some of their thermal units that allowed for almost no curtailment for a time they started curtailment rows again but that was because of the explosion of rooftop PV which is not controllable by the utility which is a competitor to wind in this only way and so they started curtailing a little more as that went up and now their curtailment has kind of dropped again and that is due to less thermal generation on the system since the HCNS plant that they were buying the electricity from closed down well you know it strikes me it's very interesting so you run the PUC now you're sort of on the other side the other corner of the ball field and you can actually help the PUC by making these reports and suggestions in public and part of being on the PUC at least most of the time the utility has they have to do all these studies and analyses to kind of bring forth planning proposals and things but at the PUC that's kind of all you have as far as deep analysis there's other stakeholders that say things about that or complain about that but you don't really have much beyond that to go on so what H&I is hoping to do is to provide some of that technical analysis that's independent from the utility and it may say the same thing it may say something different or suggest different alternatives but it's something independent and it's a value to the decision-making process and you have the resources to do it from a scientific point of view call it scientific methodology anyway plus the scientists available to you and I know you have some very classy scientists we've met them well you've got some in life they're all much better anyway I think this is an interesting twist because we have arrived our examination here on Hawaii the state of clean energy is where is it going how is it moving is it meeting expectations and who is playing on the field and who is participating in what way to me this is very important that we start putting the pieces together it's like a grand puzzle some kid playing with Legos by the way we'd love to see all these various factors and facilities and pieces of equipment come together and now we're at a place where it gets more sophisticated it's more difficult there's more demands made on the outcome and we really have to focus on the technology and as you said the integration it's so close to you for that this is good we've made such great progress but we've got so much further to go and it's only going to get more difficult and more complicated I'm sure that's true when you have all these pieces and you bring them all together what you have is a notable achievement in a laboratory Hawaii the laboratory of energy Hawaii the laboratory of energy which the world can see and it makes us all the more a leader so H&EI becoming really central in that whole effort by moving to this integration idea and it's bringing everybody together to the table I think before it was all in silos and now the conference where you have the stakeholder thing that you have with HECO that John is involved in I think it's that kind of conversation as Jim Kelly earlier said with transportation everybody coming together then you could see how you do integrate if you don't have all the pieces it's hard to integrate well good and it could be a work on the forum I think the forum sort of sets a pace about having good clear conversation good clear comparison and pairing notes about doing it outside of silos and I think we're developing a kind of culture in the energy community where people know each other they're able to talk to each other they're able to get out of the silos I don't want to use the word consensus but make a kind of common conclusion about which way is best and scientists always have an angle I mean an advantage on that don't you think yeah definitely and there's different levels of technology I don't want to say competence but understanding so we need to cut across all of those and communicate where we're trying to go and the reasons why and the trade offs that are going to have to take place to all levels I mean the technical guys can sit down and talk about it and understand it but sometimes it's a challenge to make it because it's not as easy as us we try to do that type of thing as well I feel the chairman's going to ask you another question now well basically it's always the challenging question what basically in terms of what you've done so far where HNEI is what do you see as the the most I guess the biggest challenge in terms of really making this integration happen I mean we brought people to the table what's the next step forward in the coming year for HNEI or overall HNEI is seeing the integration where the the touch points are and what is the challenge for getting to the next level I think bringing everything together just the whole integration part and some of the meetings I've been at today and tomorrow are about integrated grid planning which would bring in the distribution side and all the rooftop solar and forecast for that and energy storage and other resources that are out there in homes at the end of the lines and being able to bring that into the planning as well because people are going to do what they're going to do but it all has to work within the system and for the benefit of the consumer so you need that yeah well thanks for doing that thanks for coming down Sean we want to check in with you from time to time and the question I thought Sharon was going to ask kind of a closing question I think this is the question I thought Sharon if I want to know what you guys are doing at HNEI if I want to know about your projects and your investigations and your successes and your relationships with other stakeholders in the landscape where do I look do I just call you up there must be some other way you could we do have a website Hawaii.edu slash HNEI and it has all our reports some recent news and projects and there's a lot of menus you can play with there and I also want to thank John because he's done a lot in terms of looking at this integrated planning who all the actors are and having a better view of how to do energy play or how we can better do energy planning so I think that's still an initiative that he's been helping the forum on and leading the forum charge you're probably going to thank him for that for appearing on the show then you're going to say farewell to our viewers am I right? and thank you thank you John and thanking the viewers for being with us and until we see you next time to continue the leadership series for November Aloha Aloha you guys


Let's solve a couple of questions on the properties of distance and displacement. The first one says Sarthak is driving a car on a straight road. The car's displacement in a certain time period is delta x i.e. minus 1 km. Which of these could be correct about the distance covered by the car during the same time period? And we have to choose all the answers that apply, which means there could be more than one correct answer. All right, as always, pause the video, give this one a try first. Hopefully you have given this a shot. Now it says that Sarthak is driving on a car on a straight road and the car's displacement is minus 1 km. So let's try to draw this. Let's try to draw, let's try to draw a car and the car, okay, this is all right. So here we have the same car and this is the same car and the displacement, displacement, this is, this is delta x that is given to be as minus 1 km. If we try to represent the car as point object, we can say that the initial position is over here and the final position is here and delta x, this is again the displacement is minus 1 km. This is the initial position IP and this is the final position FB. And this displacement, minus 1 km, this displacement really tells us, it really tells us the shortest distance. It tells us the shortest, I'm just trying to choose a pen over here, okay, tries to tell us the shortest, shortest distance between any two points. So between these two points, the shortest distance is minus 1 km. So distance really cannot be less than 1, right? Because, because of displacement is the shortest distance between these two. How can the distance be less than, less than 1? Over here, minus sign is just telling us the direction. So if the, so here we have assumed that the left direction is negative. So it's, it's displaced by 1 km to the left. That's the minus sign, it tells the direction. And 1 is the shortest distance between these two points. So option A is wrong, distance covered cannot be less than 1. Option B says, distance covered is more than 1 km. So for this one, let's think about a scenario. Let's say the car started from this point and then went all the way, like followed this path, went a little back, then again came forward, then went much ahead in the final position, then came back to the final position. Even in this case, the displacement is still minus 1 km, because the displacement only depends on the initial and the final position. It does not depend on the path, the entire journey, all the distance that the car traveled. So here, yes, the distance covered is more than 1, it's insanely more than 1 km, but the displacement is still minus 1. So option B, the question is which of these could be correct? Option B can be correct because distance traveled can be more than 1 km. Distance covered is 1 km. Well, let's see if the car started from the initial position and then it just went straight and to the final position. Here, the magnitude of displacement is 1 and also the distance covered is 1 km. So distance covered can be equal to the displacement and this is only true if the car traveled in a straight line, in a straight line between the initial position and the final position. The car traveled in a straight line without ever reversing, going back or going far ahead in the final position. It started from initial position and then straight line traveled to the final position. Only then the distance can be equal to the displacement. All right, let's move on to the next question. Here we have Manveer who observes a car's motion on the road and draws the distance L versus time T curve for the car as shown below. Here is a curve. Farouk looks at the curve and immediately concludes that this curve is drawn incorrectly. So Farouk says there is something wrong with this curve. Which portion of the curve led Farouk to this conclusion? Again, as always pause it, try it once on your own and then resume the video. Okay, so we need to choose one answer A, B, C, C, D. Which portion of the curve could be wrong? So now let's think about it. Manveer is observing a car's motion on the road and draws the distance L versus time and Farouk looks at it says something wrong. So this is a distance versus time curve. L here is distance. So okay, the car starts from A and as time progresses it travels some distance reaches point B. Nothing really seems wrong with that. Car is traveling forward. Now after point B, the curve it bends down and this is where the point C is. Let's try to draw that as well. This is point A and this is point B. So this happened in the first in this much time interval. Let's call it T1. So this much happened in T1. And then after point B it is at point C. So in this portion of the curve it means that a distance is decreasing with time. Distance is decreasing with time. Maybe that could happen if after point B the car went back, the car went back and now this is a point C. Maybe this is what the curve is trying to show. But we are drawing a distance versus time graph, not a displacement versus time graph. Distance cannot decrease, it cannot decrease with time because even if the car started moving backwards you are still traveling more distance.  So distance, it will need to increase constantly because even if you reverse, if you start going back you are still traveling, you are covering more ground you are traveling more distance. Yes, if there would have been displacement versus time graph then that story would have been different. But the distance, distance can never really decrease. Even if you start going back it's still covering more ground, traveling more distance will always, it will always increase. So BC seems to be the wrong part of the curve. Let's look at CD. CD means that there is no change in distance as time progresses which can totally be true because the car could be at rest. So CD can also be right. So turns out BC is wrong. BC is the wrong portion of this curve because the distance has been shown to decrease in this part of the curve which is not possible.


I'd love you to talk a bit about trust and inspiration and how the spirit uses that. Yeah, trust is the cornerstone of the awakening process and it's very similar to faith. It's not like that the mind has a faithful or faithless. It's more of taking a close look at where have I placed my faith, where have I put my trust? And that starts to give a meaningful context for the awakening. Have I invested in false egoic beliefs and egoic thoughts? Or have I invested in the spirit, which is really the undoing of those false beliefs and false thoughts? So in one sense it seems like trust needs to go toward the spirit, towards the great awakening. And yet this has to play out in terms of symbols. Because when the mind is asleep and dreaming all it knows is symbols. So this is the Holy Spirit's task is to exchange self-concepts into greater and greater, more expansive self-concepts that approach true forgiveness. And this whole progression or movement is of course to the point of reaching a total release point where all illusions fall and are seen as nothing. But the progression towards that, you might say the spirit has to use what the mind believes in. Otherwise it would seem impossible to make those exchanges of those self-concepts. So for example, I had a counseling call this morning with a woman who had seemed to lose her health, her house, all of her possessions of 40 years. And went into homelessness and was on the verge again of going homeless and was very, very frightened. And so the whole conversation centered around seeing that actually things weren't being lost or taken away, but things were being devalued in the mind. Because the true prayer of the heart was for healing and for joy and happiness. And these stories of these circumstances and things that seemed to be taken away were just part of that devaluing that was occurring. And then the conversation switched over to having that switch of purpose to have that little willingness to call upon God and say, how can I be truly helpful? How can I be a witness for you? How can I extend your love? Which takes the mind in a whole new direction away from the fear of what have I lost and how will I live and how will I be provided for. And turns the mind very softly towards how can I be a support? How can I be of help? What do I have to offer? What can I give? And so the conversation turned very quickly to that, that nothing was happening by accident and it was just a grand opportunity for turning the mind in a new direction into being truly helpful. So inspiration is how can I serve then? How can I serve? What would you have me do? Where would you have me go? What would you have me say? To whom? You know, just in that open state of mind where you want to serve and be of help to everything and to everyone without exception. But also of willingness to be shown, to not presume that the mind already knows how to be helpful but to be very open.


Okay, so someone asks Ellie Bowers, I Don't know how to pronounce that name, but I hope that's right How do you do what you do? I need to get out. I need to get to where you are, but I don't know how Well the thing is Ellie Bowers I didn't actually know how either That's the thing. You don't need to know how when I first started. I had to do a very strong desire So I got out of prison I stayed sober I left gangs. I Wanted to give back and had a really burning desire in my Chest here. I wanted to inspire people to change their lives. I wanted to help animals And that desire drove me to do what I do to get to where I am That's all you need. You need that drive that desire And you have to be determined and passionate You don't need to know how to get where to get to where I am. You don't need to know that You just need to have that desire and you need to act on it You can spend a whole decade wondering how you're gonna do it and you just wasted a decade What you have to do It might seem really like an easy thing to say But you just have to do it. You have to start the first step make the first step and That's how you get to where you're going But if you don't ever make that first step because you're so frozen by you're so frozen by the how How am I gonna do it? How am I gonna get there? What the the main thing is you need to start and you need to start somewhere and you need to start small no matter how small And it might seem small and exist insignificant to you at the start But you've started and that's I've spoke to people two years ago. They wanted to start doing something looking at them Now they haven't even started Been two years So that's the thing you don't wait. You don't be complacent. You just go go for it and I didn't have a desire to Didn't go. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna have this This following on all my platforms and all that. No, I just said, oh, this is what I kept repeating to myself. I want to inspire People I want to help animals. I Was angered by the injustice and that's what drove me and I didn't really care about anything else another thing about that is that people look at my My platforms and I think oh Joey just that fell on Joey's lap That just that platform fell on Joey's lap Not at all If you know the amount of work that I put in the amount of video content that I've edited I used to sit there captioning my own videos. I didn't even know how to spell Like the amount of work that I've put into all of my platforms with a hardcore animal rights message To develop the phone. I'm surprised that I've developed the following that I have I'm actually surprised at that because I'm a very hard activist to follow.  I'm straight in your face I say what I what what I fit feel like needs to be said and I'm showing gas chamber footage And I'm calling people animal abusers and I'm surprised that I've got the following I have but the thing is like You'll probably develop a following faster than me if you put the work in because you might not not be the same as me You might you might actually you might actually Resonate with more people because the type of guy I am might not resonate with a lot of people and a lot of you Wow this guy's a little bit too much for me, you know, you'll probably develop a platform faster than me If you put the work in and I had a job when I got out of prison And I got off home D I got a job brick land and I was a laborer I was working 40 hours a week shoveling sand mixing concrete I'm stacking bricks wool-burrowing bricks around all day for a year and I was on a very low wage But I wanted to stay sober wanted to do the right thing I quit that job because I I felt like it was sucking my energy and I wanted to give my energy elsewhere So I quit that job and my idea was that If I put myself in a happy state, I would be able to attract the way So while I was in that job it was sucking out all my energy and I couldn't use that energy to attract the things I wanted in my life or to use my energy to inspire so I left that job and Two weeks later. I've got another job Being a traffic controller, which took less of my energy I could work three days a week and make the same amount of money So that's what I attracted within two weeks of just taking myself out of that environment Becoming centered and I found a job that I could actually do activism four days a week And my form of activism was making video content doing street interviews and yada yada yada and I Had to go to work three days a week and even I was filming at work. I was doing my on my phone at work It's traffic control. You set up a few signs and you sit there all day So I made it happen. I made it happen And I was working that job for a couple of years while I was making my content and people like Joey this fellow this fellow on Joey Carpstrong's lap.     I Was suicidal. I was addicted to math. I was in high level organized crime gangs that were trying to kill each other I pulled myself out of that got sober, which was one of the hardest things I ever had to do.  I love I love my mate that I work for but it was a hardcore job I don't know. It wasn't it was a full-on. It was the hardest job I've ever done shoveling sand mixing concrete stacking bricks laying bricks all day for eight hours a day in the sun 40 hours a week making a very Mediocre amount of money. I was grateful But and then I've got a job and I was doing the activism top of it and I was editing constantly Camera work who to edit and no one was editing my stuff. You know, I was editing at me.   That's how I got the following You try to get a following in animal rights It's hard It's hard. If you're earthling Ed, who's just an amazing human being he speaks so articulately The most educated like he's amazing. He's talented. This guy is talented And he's his demeanor is so watchable one of my favorite activists amazing You know, yeah, but if you're someone like me, which didn't I Couldn't even spell properly. I come out as gangs and I I didn't know how to I had no social skills No social skills like you like if you come from where I come from you don't really develop social skills I'd PTSD Coming out of drug addiction anxiety trauma all of this stuff like watching over my shoulder all the time because like, you know Like and to come out of that and got hop on social media that type of paranoia and that type of you know Coming from that type of life was hard. It was hard But your desire has to outweigh how hard it is your desire to do it has to outweigh how hard it is What's harder?   You had a short window of opportunity on the world and I blew it. I blew it because I was too scared Imagine that You know me and a lot of people live their life like that They live their life in fear and then they have all these regrets on their deathbed and I didn't want that to be me That was my number one fear. I'm scared of dying. I'm scared of dying without living my life without leaving a positive mark on earth So I know that was a that was a hell of a lot of You have a lot to think about whoever gave me that first question, but that's what it takes That's what it took for me. Anyway, it might take less for you. I don't know But that's what it took for me. So don't look at don't look at me and go that was an easy road to get there. No It wasn't easy But does that mean it's impossible? Oh, no Hell no It just means you have to be dedicated Yeah, you have to be doing it for something outside of yourself. You have to be giving selflessly about this if animals are important to you If making a difference is important to you trust me, you'll find the strength


Today we're taking a look at the top 12 anticipated manga releases for the month of April 2023. Tista Volume 1, time for another box set, the later half of Sweat & Soap. World End Soltay Volume 2. Sengoku Yoko Volume 1. De De Demons De De De De Destruction Volume 12. Sugar Apple Fairy Tale. Tatsuki Fujimoto Before Chainsaw Man, 22-26. The Witch and the Night Will Survive. Loves in sight. Oh boy. Here is Boys Abyss. Demons of the Shadow Realm Volume 1. And to close out this video we got Gleolia, the second printing. So there you go guys, 12 anticipated manga releases that I think you should check out for the month of April.


Welcome, viewers, to our ongoing program, Nuclear Free Future Conversation, coming to you from Burlington, Vermont, here in the Channel 17 Center for Media and Democracy TV Studio. And I'm your host, Margaret Harrington, for the Nuclear Free Future Conversation. We've been going on for over 10 years, and we have a very special guest returning to us, Kevin Camps, from Beyond Nuclear. Welcome back, Kevin Camps. Thank you, Margaret, good to be here. Yes, thank you so much for returning, Kevin, with all of the crucial issues that you present to us and the insight that you give to us, which is vital to our understanding of what is happening in the nuclear world. And unfortunately, we are living in this nuclear world. And could you just recap for us what Beyond Nuclear is about? Well, we're a national and even international anti-nuclear organization. And truth be told, we're largely focused on the nuclear power side of the coin. But there's so much overlap that we've got nuclear weapons issues as well. And we have our various focus areas, reactor risks in the United States, radioactive waste risks, the risk of radioactivity to human health. And then, like I said, the international scene, not just Canada, but even overseas as well. Thank you, Kevin. And the title of our program is Poisoning the Well. So this is a vital issue about nuclear waste. So please explain, Kevin, what is the issue that's right in our face right now about the dumping of nuclear waste into the Great Lakes? Yeah, well, I'm from Michigan, and that's where I got started in anti-nuclear power activism was in my home of Kalamazoo, Michigan, because a local atomic reactor that I barely knew was there growing up, Palisades, ran out of room for its high-level radioactive waste in its storage pool indoors. And so it started plunking dry casks on the beach of Lake Michigan, just 150 yards from the water. And I love Lake Michigan. It's sacred to me. And so that's how I got involved in anti-nuclear power activism. And I've stayed on the board of directors all these decades now for Don't Waste Michigan, the statewide anti-nuclear coalition. And way back in 2001, we heard the first whispers of this insane proposal by Ontario power generation, which is the major power utility in Canada, to target the Great Lakes shoreline, specifically the shoreline of Lake Huron, which is just east of Michigan. If you can imagine the thumb of Michigan, tip of the thumb and goes straight east across Lake Huron. And located there is Ontario power generations. Nuclear plant called Bruce, Nuclear Generating Station, with a total of nine reactors on one site, the biggest nuclear power plant in the world in terms of number of reactors. And that's right where they want to do this radioactive waste dumping. So what is it, 19 years now, we've been fighting this proposal. And there was just a major announcement made, not only are we fighting a so-called low level and highly radioactive, intermediate level radioactive waste dump right at the Bruce Nuclear Generating Station. But now, again, Ontario power generation really is driving this. They've announced that the high level radioactive waste dump for Canada has been narrowed to two sites that they're considering for this dump. One is northwest of Lake Superior by 150 miles. So if you can imagine Minnesota, go straight north, it's called Ignis, Ontario. It's in Ojibwe First Nation territory. And the other location, surprise, surprise, is very close to Bruce Nuclear Generating Station near the Lake Huron shoreline. Two small towns called Huron Kinloss and the other is called South Bruce. So really, if they choose to do it all near or on the Bruce Nuclear Generating Station, it would be a national radioactive waste dump for all of Canada. Again, on Ojibwe land, there it's called the Sogine Ojibwe Nation. And as we record this interview tomorrow, on January 31st, 2020, the Sogine Ojibwe Nation is holding a referendum among their community, 5,000 people, whether or not to accept a bribe from Ontario power generation of $150 million. And then if they say yes, they will be expected to not only host one or more dumps on their territory, but to be enthusiastic about it. And so we're waiting to see how that community decides. But even if they decide to accept the money, we will have to continue to fight tooth and nail against this proposal. Kevin, how is this proposal different from the one from several over a decade ago? And why isn't the Canadian government in control of this situation? Technically, the Canadian government is in control, whether it's the province of Ontario, which Ontario power generation is owned by the province, actually, it's a crown corporation. They tried to privatize it decades ago, but it didn't really work. So it's still provincially owned. And of course, the federal government of Canada, as in the form of its Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, which is their version of our US Nuclear Regulatory Commission, they have to approve these proposals. But unfortunately, Ontario power generation, which has a grand total of 20 reactors, actually 21, if you include the prototype at Bruce, 21 reactors in Ontario. They really not only run the province, not just electrically, but politically and economically. And because Ontario is the most populous Canadian province in a sense, they run the country. And they're the tail wagging the dog. And the Saugino-Jibway Nation, I mean, this is a deep environmental justice question. They've been forced to host against their will from the start in the 1960s, really, with the prototype reactor at Bruce. They've been forced to host this nuclear power plant, the biggest in the world, and all of its downsides. They've gotten very little to nothing in return for that. So yes, they deserve to be paid more than $150 million by Ontario power generation for all the suffering that they've had to go through. But they certainly shouldn't be forced to consent, to say yes to this dump or multiple dumps that are targeted at them. So we certainly sympathize with their predicament. And one of the members of Congress from Michigan, Dan Kildey, who's been a real leader in fighting these dumps on the Great Lakes shores, he's from Flint. If that gives you any, he cares so much. Flint, after its drinking water catastrophe, returned to the Metro Detroit municipal drinking water system. And guess where their water comes from? It comes from Lake Huron, which is relatively pristine drinking water. So Congressman Kildey, on behalf of his constituents in Flint, who've already suffered a drinking water catastrophe, they don't want these risks on the very edge of their drinking water supply, Lake Huron. And hence the name poisoning the well, Lake Huron and the rest of the Great Lakes is the drinking water supply for 40 million people in both countries and a large number of Native American First Nations. And Dan Kildey has asked the Canadian decision makers in the vastness of your country and Canada is second only to Russia in terms of land mass. You can't find a better place than the shoreline of Lake Huron for radioactive waste dumping. So the fight is back on with this announcement a couple months ago that not only low and intermediate level radioactive waste, which is bad enough, believe you me, but now high level radioactive waste is being targeted at the Great Lakes shores. And it's not just an issue for the eight Great Lakes states, especially Michigan, which is surrounded by the Great Lakes, thankfully. We love it. It's really an issue for our entire country, for both our countries, the US and Canada and the entire world. The Great Lakes is 84% of North America's surface fresh water and it's 21% of the world's surface fresh water. And we cannot take these kind of risks with that much precious, safe drinking water. Well, it's all well and good for the congressman to ask that question, like why is this going on and what can we do about it? But what clout does an American congressperson have with the Ontario or the Canadian government, the Canadian power, the Canadian power plant? A little curd goes a long way and I'd like to harken back to the mid-1980s when Vermont was targeted by the US Department of Energy at seven different locations for the US national high-level radioactive waste dump. That then a few years later focused on Yucca Mountain, Nevada, Western Shoshone, Indian land. But when it was still looking at seven sites in Vermont, two sites in New Hampshire, including Hillsborough and one site in Maine, Sobego Lake, there was a clamor on the Canadian side at the highest levels of their government. Because one of those sites in Vermont that was being targeted was a shared water basin between Vermont and Canada. And the Canadian leadership at the highest national level said, hey, hold on a minute, this is a shared water basin. You can't do this without consulting us, without our consent. And they created enough pushback that guess what? That site was taken off the list as were all the sites in Vermont. It wasn't just because of Canada's pushback, but it was a precedent that was set that we have harkened back to. And the current congressional resolution led by the likes of Congressman Kildey and Senators Stabenaw and Peters from Michigan. But a bicameral and bipartisan congressional caucus is pushing back. There's House Resolution 805. There's Senate Resolution 470. A sense of Congress saying don't dump radioactive waste in the Great Lakes Basin. And they actually cite that Canadian pushback on the Vermont border there from the 1980s saying, hey, look, Canada objected to dumping radioactive waste in a shared water basin. Well, the biggest shared water basin between our two countries is the Great Lakes. So it's a powerful argument that they've put out there. They're calling on the President and the Secretary of State to do all they can with their Canadian cohorts to put a stop to this. And hey, if we can renew NAFTA, this new US-Canada-Mexico trade agreement, how about protecting one of the biggest bioregional economic zones in the world that is the Great Lakes economic zone? Something like $65 billion of economic activity coming out of the Great Lakes economic zone. If you go all the way from the Western Great Lakes all the way out to the Atlantic via the St. Lawrence, you're talking one of the biggest regional economic zones in the world that could be ruined by a radioactive catastrophe at a shoreline dump site. And Kevin, could you go into Prime Minister Trudeau's support for this dumping? Why is that? He was just re-elected. And what's going on politically there to give them a push to, again, propose to dump the nuclear waste in the Great Lakes? Right. On surface level, you'd think that somebody like Trudeau, who's so charismatic and popular, or at least he was previously, would just put a stop to this immediately. But no. And a part of it goes back in history. The Liberal Party that he represents, which is a middle-of-the-road, somewhat conservative party, has been nuclear for a very long time. And there are progressive parties in Canada, like the New Democratic Party. Even the Green Party has a couple of three members of the National Parliament, including an anti-nuclear leader who's leader of the Green Party, Elizabeth May, who is a board member of Nuclear Information and Resource Service, going back a long time. And so there is major pushback in Canada against this, but there's largely silence, or worse, from Trudeau's Liberal Party. And incredibly, you know, being in the thick of this fight for so long, I have to say the Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission, and now appointed by Trudeau, he's the decision-maker, makes the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission look better, which is really hard to do because the NRC is so bad. The CNSC is even worse. They are even more beholden to the nuclear power industry of Canada. So what it's going to take is major clamor from both sides of the border on Prime Minister Trudeau, and that's exactly what this congressional resolution is calling for, is for President Trump and Secretary of State Pompeo to do everything in their power to tell the Canadians, hey, look, this is not acceptable, we need to work together. There are treaties like the Boundary Waters Treaty of 1909 that call for protection of the Great Lakes. There are bi-national bodies like the International Joint Mission. The unfortunate thing that gets to the heart of your question is the nuclear power industry, whether it's in Ontario, whether it's on the US side, is very politically powerful. And they get these international bodies like the International Joint Commission, which are supposed to protect the Great Lakes, to largely silence themselves in regards to the subject matter. But there have been great exceptions to that, like when Rosalie Bertel was on the International Joint Commission's Great Lakes Task Force, and they did some major publications, like how much radioactivity, artificial radioactivity, is in the Great Lakes from nuclear weapons bomb fallout to nuclear power plant emissions. They did tremendous work. They looked at the biomagnification of radioactive contamination in the Great Lakes, and they were about to do a human health impact study on these questions. When they were shut down, it never happened because the nuclear power industry on both sides of the border said, nope, that ain't going to happen. And what about the potential for the people, the activists, to stop this from happening? We have a lot of potential. We really showed up in a big way to fight off that low and intermediate level radioactive waste dump, which is still in play, unfortunately. That's what this referendum vote at the Saugino-Jibway Nation tomorrow is about. And there were years and years of Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission joint review panels, their highest level environmental review, which we had to win in the first place to get it looked at with that much care. And it's a very rigged process, but we showed up in a big way. Just one example, a group of neighbors of the Kin Cardin, Ontario targeted sites formed a group called Stop the Great Lakes Nuclear Dump, and another group of neighbors called SOS Great Lakes, Save Our Sauging Shores, SOS. They all formed and Stop the Great Lakes Nuclear Dump worked both sides of the border, and long story short, they generated or helped to generate, at this point, 223 resolutions, representing over 23 million Great Lakes residents on both sides of the border saying, don't do this. And in fact, it's their slogan, would you bury poison beside your well. They've done tremendous work, and the people of the Great Lakes have spoken. That's more than half the population of the Great Lakes have officially passed resolutions saying, no, don't do this. And it's held it off, but Ontario Power Generation in its stubbornness, Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission in its complicity, keep at it, keep coming back. And we, of course, will not back down. We have to stop this. And when you say the people of the Great Lakes have spoken, is that on both sides of the border? Is that the Canadians and the Americans? Yeah, it's both sides of the border. It's every state and every province impacted, and many of the counties and the cities, incredibly enough, Ontario Power Generation is headquartered in Toronto. Toronto City passed one of these resolutions. And even places like the company town of Davis Bessie, Ohio, Port Clinton passed a resolution. The city of Chicago, which is the headquarters of Exxalon Nuclear, the biggest American nuclear utility passed a resolution. So, you know, what it's saying is, you know, the nuclear power industry in the United States is pretty crazy in terms of taking high risks. Even they are saying, this is a crazy proposal. They've never proposed, I should take that back. There have been proposals on the US side to dump the country's high level radioactive waste in the Great Lakes Basin, but it goes back to like 1957 when the National Academy of Sciences was looking at Metro Detroit, at the salt formations under Metro Detroit. And I think that they wised up that that's probably a bad idea. Too much risk there. So, even the US nuclear power industry is saying, this is nuts. So what will stop them from dumping into the Great Lakes? People power, you know, environmental justice, solidarity with the Soggy and Ojibwe Nation have already suffered so much, not just from nuclear, but one of their leaders spoke at one of these dump hearings in Canada and spoke about how in recent decades, I think it was in the 1950s, there was an unwritten law up there on the Bruce Peninsula that the Soggy and Ojibwe had better not wander off the reservation after dark, or they would pay for it. And he was referring to lynchings that occurred up there. So there's a deep racist past around there. So we have to work with the Soggy and Ojibwe Nation. We have to work with the Ojibwe of Manitoulin Island, which is in Northern Lake Huron, one of the biggest Ojibwe communities in the entire Great Lakes basin to achieve environmental justice reforms because up there at Manitoulin Island, they are on the receiving end of massive uranium mining fallout. The Serpent River First Nation, another Ojibwe community, the uranium mining around Elliot Lake, Ontario was right in the heart of their community. And essentially it ruined their traditional lifestyle. The livestock, not livestock, the wildlife, like moose are too contaminated to this day to consume. And so it's been, essentially it's been a cultural genocide against their people. And not just that, but a lot of their folks have also died of their exposure to radiation in the form of cancer and other diseases. I was part of a book project called, This Is My Homeland, about the suffering of the Serpent River First Nation downstream and right in the middle of this uranium mining for Canada's nuclear industry. And the environmental director of the Serpent River First Nation, Keith Lewis, put it this way. He said, there's nothing moral about tempting a starving man with money. And that's what happened to the Serpent River First Nation. The uranium mining industry said, hey, we've got jobs for you. And they were low income. So they entered into this industry. They were given the worst jobs, the highest exposures, not warned about the dangers, not just to the miners, but to the nearby communities at the surface. So here we go again with Ontario Power Generation offering $150 million to the Soggy Nojibwe Nation to allow radioactive waste dumping on their sacred shorelines. And there's nothing moral about tempting a starving man with money. And so, yes, they should get that money, but it should not force them to accept posting this worst poison that humans have ever generated. Kevin, where is the nuclear waste now that has been accumulating for decades? Where is it now that it could be moved right into the Great Lakes? Yeah, that's the dilemma is, it is on the Great Lakes shorelines. There are dozens of atomic reactors on both the US and Canadian shores of the Great Lakes. And then Canada has other reactors like in Quebec, on the St. Lawrence River. That's Jean T. And in New Brunswick, that Point Le Pro. So if the high level radioactive waste dump for Canada is on the Great Lakes shoreline, they'll be importing high level wastes from other provinces. So it is on the Great Lakes shores at some 20 reactors in Ontario and lots of reactors on the US side too. And that's an ironic development. These bad bills in the US Congress right now like 82699 on the House side and S2917 on the Senate side, the Nuclear Waste Policy Amendments Act. And unfortunately, Peter Welch from Vermont has voted for this legislation in the past. So we're hoping he'll change his position on this because of the environmental justice violations alone. But an amendment was added to HR 2699 when it passed the Energy and Commerce Committee in November 2019. It was a resolution, not unlike the one I previously described the Great Lakes Protection Resolution. It was introduced by Congressman Upton, a Republican from Michigan and Congresswoman Dingle, a Democrat from Michigan. And what it says is you can't long-term store or dispose of high level radioactive waste in the Great Lakes. And really it's pointing a finger at Canada saying don't do it. The irony, and we have called them on this hypocrisy, is that Congressman Upton especially who's been in Congress since 1986 from my home community of Kalamazoo, he has no problem, atomic reactors operating in his district. There are three of them. And then beyond that elsewhere on the US side of the Great Lakes, he has no problem with the generation of high level radioactive waste on the Great Lakes shore. He has defied his constituents who've called for action to be taken about the risks of long-term storage of high level radioactive waste in his district on the shore of Lake Michigan. So it's very hypocritical of him to be saying this. Really it boils down to a very nimby, not in my backyard. Yes, we've generated it. Yes, we've made money on it, but now it has to leave. And in terms of this congressional bill, it's targeting yet again, native land in Nevada, Western Shoshone land at Yucca Mountain. And this time around, instead of targeting Native American reservations, like in the past, it's targeting Hispanic communities on either side of the border of Texas and New Mexico. It's unacceptable, it's hypocritical. What we call for is that these atomic reactors on the US side, on the Canadian side, be shut down, be phased out, be replaced with renewables and efficiency because the risks of generating these wastes, long-term storage at a place like Palisades in Southwest Michigan since 1971, that's long-term storage. And Congressman Upton's been all for it. He's been the biggest cheerleader of the nuclear power industry in the House of Representatives for his entire career. So those are the kind of devilish details we work out. Nimbism is not acceptable, environmental racism, radioactive racism is not acceptable. And what about dry cask storage, Kevin? Is that in playing out on the Canadian side at all? Do they have dry cask storage there? Yes, the pools in Canada, just like in the United States are full, and they have to unload at least the oldest waste, the coolest waste, the most radioactively decayed waste into outdoor dry cask storage. In fact, in Canada, they're a bit better than us because they require, at this point going forward, that those dry casks be inside a building, which on one level prevents certain terrorist attack scenarios like firing an anti-tank missile at them because the attackers can't exactly see where they are. We don't have that on the US side. Our dry casks are right out in plain sight. So they do use dry cask storage. In fact, the Western Waste Management Facility at Bruce Nuclear Generating Station is one of the single largest dry cask storage schemes in the world. The figure is something like 2,000 dry casks are proposed at Bruce Nuclear. And that's just an interim storage until they can dump it somewhere. And right now they're proposing just down the road in some nearby communities if they choose to go that route. What about the danger of terrorists attacking dry cask storage? Is that an issue? Yeah, your guests from Citizens Awareness Network recently on your show, Deb Katz, commissioned a study way back in 2003 by Dr. Gordon Thompson of Cambridge, Massachusetts. And he's been one of the clearest voices for a long time that dry casks themselves are vulnerable. And so the hardened onsite storage symposium that took place in Middleton, Connecticut back in April of 2002 where Arjun Makajani coined the phrase and Gordon Thompson then did this full-length technical report. They have been calling for fortifications against terrorist attack on the dry cask storage this past two decades. And it's largely not happened at all in the United States as I mentioned. There's some exceptions. Prairie Island, Minnesota and Palo Verde, Arizona are a couple nuclear power plants that at least put in urban burming these dirt walls surrounding the dry cask storage. So again, line of sight attack by anti-tank missiles would be precluded by that. But it has to be even better than that. But those are the only two exceptions in the whole country where they've done anything in this regard. So it is a serious issue. And it's why more than 200 environmental groups in all 50 states and we have Canadian support in the environmental movement there have called for hardened onsite storage as near as possible to the point of generation. There's concern on Lake Michigan right now that the shoreline is a road into the Great Lakes. It's probably climate related, although there's been erosion for decades, even centuries. And there's even, you know, it's poo-pooed, but there's even risk of tsunamis on the Great Lakes. In fact, when I was up there at Bruce for these hearings I mentioned, one of our side events that we organized was in a town not far from Kincardin that was hit by a natural disaster in 1913. It's referred to as the White Hurricane of 1913. It was a blizzard, actually. It's the greatest loss of life on the Great Lakes in recorded history, many hundreds died. What this blizzard did was it forced a 40 foot wall of water into this community. And again, this is close to Bruce nuclear generating station. So if they were to build this radioactive waste dump at Bruce and there would be an entry tunnel at the surface, if a 40 foot wall of water were to hit that entry tunnel, it could flood the tunnel or any surface facilities where high level radioactive waste would be located, which includes currently dry cast storage. And so what hardened onsite storage calls for is as safely as possible, as near as possible to the point in generation. If there are places where erosion or tsunamis are a risk, then perhaps further inland to higher ground is required. So those are the kind of conversations we need to have in North America. Thank you, Kevin, for this conversation, which has made us alert and aware, you again awakened us to this issue that is timely. And we're running out of time as the doomsday clock has told us and that the activism of people like the Plowshares Seven, who did the, well, Kevin, could you talk a little bit about the Plowshares Seven, who are re-enacting really the resistance to nuclear weapons, which was originated by the original Plowshares people. Could you talk a little bit about that? Yeah, the Kings Bay Plowshares Seven, this was the 100th Plowshares action since 1980. And the Berrigan brothers were founders of the Plowshares movement. And Liz McAllister, Phil Berrigan's widow is one of the Plowshares Seven right now. They did an action at the Kings Bay Trident Submarine Base in Georgia, which is a major nuclear weapons base. It's the East Coast Nuclear Submarine Base for the United States. It's been hiding there really for decades with little attention and they brought some attention to it on the 50th anniversary of Martin Luther King's assassination. So they really dedicated their action to the memory of Martin Luther King and his warnings about the triple evils of militarism and materialism and racism. And they are now facing 20 plus years in prison if the book is thrown at them for their nonviolent direct action. And so blessings upon them for their good work and our hopes and prayers and thoughts are with them as they are on the brink of sentencing right now. Yes, and they are direct descendants, including one of the members of Dorothy Day and of the founder of the Catholic Worker Movement and of Peter Moran, Peter Moran from France who came down through Canada and who helped to found the Catholic Worker Union, Catholic Worker Movement and also initiated the Green Revolution. The Green Revolution was initiated by Peter Moran in the United States in during the Depression years. So all of this has historical connections and we're all connected in this. And thank you so much, Kevin, for waking us up and keeping us awake and for your action every day. Thank you. Yes, remarkably, one of the plowshare seven is Martha Hennessey who is Dorothy Day's granddaughter. Yes, yes. This is history and activism all coming together and continuing on. They're certainly not remnants as one of them, one of them describe themselves as remnants in one of the videos that I saw that you sent me. Oh no, they're living, living activists and so strong. Like you, Kevin. As we approach St. Bridget's Day in Ireland, it's a sacred fire. And actually the Dibway, their sibling tribe, the Potawatomi, their name means keepers of the fire. So it's a sacred fire that the plowshares movement has kept burning. Yes. Thank you so much, Kevin Camps from Beyond Nuclear. Until next time and we will be activists because you are waking us up and leading us forward. Thank you so much. Until next time, Kevin Camps. Goodbye for now. Thank you so much.


Lance Corporal Morgan Monotka, 0-4-11 Maintenance Manager Specialist, Marine Wing Communication Squadron 28. I joined the Marine Corps June 7th, 2020. I joined the Marine Corps better myself and gave me something to be proud of. The Marine Corps has treated me well and has given me every opportunity that I could look for. I was on my way home to come to Oklahoma for holiday leave. When my time came up to leave to go back to Cherry Point, on my way back, I was driving through Memphis, Tennessee, stopped at a gas station just outside at around 3.30, walked up to the store to a commotion and somebody had been stabbed. What initially went through my head was that I thought it was just another fight in a gas station, but it actually turned out to be much more serious than what I originally thought. The actions that I took initially was to assess the situation and to get an understanding of what happened. As soon as I saw what happened, I knew exactly what I needed to do and that I needed to implement myself into the situation. The first step I took was to evaluate the man that had been stabbed and I'd seen that he had cut on his head and a cut running down his leg and a cut on his stomach. I assured the man that he was okay and that I was going to leave and come back with my individual first aid kit and bandage him up as best as I could. When I returned with my medical kit, I initially went straight to his leg because it was gushing the most blood. I put a tourniquet on his leg and then immediately wrapped it in combat gauze and bandages. The wound on his stomach, he had already got covered up with a towel from one of the customers inside of the store, so I told him not to remove the towel in case that the blood would start flowing again. The wound on his head was not sufficient enough to where that needed real medical attention. It was more or less just a scratch. The man was more or less confused on what exactly had happened because he had done nothing in his life to deserve something like that. I took a quick mental note of exactly what the vehicle looked like and exactly what he was saying so that way I could give the police a statement and a description of his vehicle. I had a couple customers around me gather up some gloves, paper towels, and ice bags. I had adrenaline like crazy. My hands wouldn't sit still. I was shaking. I was breathing hard. I was forgetting simple steps, but I remembered my training and I stayed calm. I learned most of this in boot camp, just simple first aid combat care. Several minutes went by until the paramedics arrived and through that time I was talking to him, keeping him calm, reassuring him that he was going to be okay. He was very thankful. He told me that I was a God sent and I was his saving grace and that he didn't know what would happen if I hadn't been there. When the police arrived on scene, they first asked who exactly bandaged him up and I raised my hand. They told me that I did a good job with the tourniquet and stopping the bleeding. I stayed there until about six o'clock. What sticks out to me the most is how I can understand how people can live with just such hate and evil inside their hearts. For my help that day, I received the Navy Marine Corps achievement medal. My advice to other Marines is to always take your training seriously and to always keep calm in serious situations like this because you never know if you have to bandage up your buddy or a random person in a gas station in the middle of Memphis.  My family was very proud of me.


Hey YouTube. I've got one of these little little kits off eBay again today, but I didn't get it today. It came through the post. That's what I'm trying to say, not that I ordered it today, it's just arrived instantly. This is a little, it's based on a CD4017BE. YC and it is an infrared remote switch. Well, it's all good, little kit, simple enough to put it together. Before I can see most of the markings, they're clear enough. There you can actually see that. It has an infrared sensor. It's at the top here. That is outputted into a transistor. I can't put it in my fingers where I want it to. And then that goes into this IC anyway. And then that's pushed out again to another transistor, which then switches really. And there's some capacitors and bits and pieces in between. So, yeah, this is it. Now, in the actual advert, it shows that this has got a socket and it doesn't come with a socket.  It also has like the yellow, I don't know what the number is of the yellow connector for the power. But it actually just comes with a couple of pins and these things, which is a little bit annoying. Because again, if you wanted the connector for something else, you haven't got it. For the £6 or £19, I don't know what this kit costs. Maybe I shouldn't quibble. But there you go. So that's the kit anyway. I'm going to put it back in here because I decided I didn't want to build the kit. I decided I didn't want to build it. I wanted to build my end. And so I went looking around on the internet and I found a circuit which was pretty similar to this. And I thought, well, I'll give it a go at building it. It's great to build the little kits. You won't practice soldering and such. But it's also good to have these stay apart because I'm going to use these parts. I'm going to use this terminal connector and I'm going to use the relay up here. I don't think I've got a need for the momentary switch. I don't know why it's on here because really your remote should be on the switch. I'm just doing it from a distance using a standard plain, just old remote. This is from an old TV that I don't have anymore. I think it's from a TV that I don't have anymore. And it would have come in really, really handy. And I'll show you what it would have come in really, really handy for. What it would have come in really, really handy to use as a remote control. First, here's my circuit. I've built it already. Now, from this wire here, this wire included and all this, forget it. Forget it. This is a little intercom system I'm working on. And it uses this wire as well because I've pulled out the speakers. The speakers and bits and pieces are down there and we don't need those. And so it's just from these wires basically here, this LED. And this is where the relay should go on the other circuit. But I've decided just for this not to bother with the relay. I just wanted to get the circuit working. I had a couple of fun parts for this circuit. It was pretty straightforward really. I'll put the schematic in the link in the description. It was pretty straightforward. The only thing that I had was my infrared receiver is a different pin out. And it took me a little bit of time to figure out which way to put that round. But that sorted not a problem. If you use the actual infrared receivers that they have on the schematic, you won't have that problem. It's just that I don't have them infrared receivers. They don't come in those kits either. Completely different ones come. And so I've used that. I've connected it to my little power supply here. So if I flip this on, now it's set to 3.7 volts. And the reason why I've done that is because one, the infrared receiver uses less than that to be powered up. And two, the chip does as well. Now if I were going to use this for a heavier load, say, than what the transistor can give, which is only about 100. It's a BC, it's a 558, I think I've got there. Or it could be the 557. Whichever one's the NPN is there. Out of those two. Yeah, 357. It'll be on the schematic. But it's only about 100 milliamps. So I'm just driving this little LED with it. Yeah, it's a pretty straightforward circuit really. Well, it is pretty straightforward if your biggest enemy when you come to constructing this circuit isn't yourself. And with me, it is myself.  And it doesn't sound, smell that healthy. Just give me a tick. Right, so there we get it. Ah yes, the remote control. Now this is all one and good. But if the, let me switch over. Before we take the transmitter off for something else. You can be playing your circuit if you want. This doesn't work. This doesn't work. Why doesn't this work? And so I started changing things, looking at the schematic again. There we go. So PMP transistor, did I get them the wrong way round? Did I get them the wrong... And it was taking like 120, 130 milligumps. I think it was too much I thought for a circuit. I was supposed to be in standby if it's using all that power. It's probably not very good. But that's when I realised that the pinout on this was completely different to the pinout on the schematic. Mine's a TSO 1780. I don't know what it is actually. I can't be saying what it is because I can't remember. It's on the screen behind there. Maybe I could just bring that up on there actually. So there's the schematic anyway. Okay, so, right. Well, when I realised that that was a problem, I decided to stop taking the TSO apart anymore. And I wouldn't have got the one from my TV. And guess what? Here, here, here. It just pressed it down. It works. Ooh, ooh, ooh. I'm quite chuffed because, um... I say I'm quite chuffed because for a while I put off building these because this is the fourth one that I bought. Now, there is my bought two more. I checked with the people. I said, look, it does come with a socket, doesn't it? It does come with the proper power connectors. And they said, yes, yes. So I ordered two more. And of course it didn't come with a socket and it didn't come with the proper power connectors. But I suppose it did have these, which the other one didn't have, which is this three terminal. That's the lights that I was shining off of. The three terminal connector. So the higher voltage because this transformer, the relay can switch 240 volt.  I'm going to have this as a remote. And my lights, oh, this will be nice. This is what else I wanted to see as well. But one of these little remotes, and it does. Brilliant. Because they don't actually use... Oh, it's not that good, is it? I'll leave it a second. I don't actually use the bulb for this. I bought this one and the bulb. I'll take it apart, see what was inside, and try and see if I can make any sort of hidden tell about how it worked. But this could come in handy to have in here just to switch my lights on from here. After my battery. And of course this one run off my battery too. As it is at the moment. I'll just put a little voltage regulator. And sort that out. And because it only draws well, it doesn't draw a lot, you know, sort of like 10 milliamps with that running like that. And obviously if I put something else on, I'll just give it a separate power supply to the relay side of it. Yeah. So. Nice. Simple little circuit. It's great. Don't move around. I'm going to build one of these kits. It's great to build the kit. And I've all built a kit. And I'm pretty sure it will do together quite successfully and simply. But it's also great to just build a drawing. If you've got this far guys, cheers for watching. Bye for now.


But I was fortunate enough to get a couple tracks in on savage life one. You put which ones did you do on on our? Cuz I'm Retarded, okay, and uh, you can hear it. He can hear the beat Stop playing. Yeah, I did them, too Yeah, we on boss talk TV shot at the heat of reason you see Lil Wayne was changing with the times is what I'm saying. That's what made him different, right? Yeah, yeah But he was not only changing with the times he was changing with himself to with himself. You know what I'm saying?  Huh? Oh, yeah.  Yep Yeah, what what about um, I Had a dilemma on here. I had to check some dudes on here I you might not been watching the episodes when I checked them And you might not agree with me, but you just hit kind of close to home down there With mail them and all the people you were rocking with I told people that Boosie Make great songs Boom, he gonna drop you some great songs But I don't think Boosie has had a better said project than we did with savage life one in two Just a just all-around prop, you know, I mean just put together Album boom drop it. I don't it's hard to get around savage life one and two man Say especially savage life one Especially savage life one savage life one was put together really really really well You were like during that time you had already moved away from them. Well, yeah around that that whole family Yeah, we were still in touch But I was fortunate enough to get a couple tracks in on savage life one. You put which ones did you do on on over? Cuz I'm Retarded, okay, and uh, you can hear it. He can hear the beat Plans Stop playing. Yeah, I did them too. Really.  Were you actually you in the stew with with webby when y'all done it or you made me just send it to a yeah Well, you in Dallas or down there still cuz you was down there too. I was in Dallas. So you was in that you had came back Yeah, what happened was they had got the deal and they pretty much almost finished up the savage life one album they were looking for some other stuff and I sent them some tracks and At the time they were recording the album in Orlando. Okay, so I flew out to Orlando and dropped it They had rented a house out there and they had a studio in there And I dropped it up out there and she put the put the lyrics on it No, that was it. It was all yeah. Yeah I know I had to get away from bad rules record the album because you know the boys they be out there heavy So they having a good time. Yeah. Yeah, I had to get away from they was where they was uncut Why they wasn't thinking about everything. Yeah, that was the first time ever flew on the plane, man I was back in What was that two thousand? You went down there. Yeah. Yeah, I thought about that Orlando. Yeah, and y'all hung out or We hung out in the rent house. We were just all like in one house. What was it? Oh, man. Who was it? It was me Where he was there? male was there Turk was there Shit, I really and some other people. I really didn't didn't know like friends and family and stuff for them Or you know just people that like homeboys. Yeah Well, you know, I didn't really I don't really remember But when you when you get in the environment like that, you knew you was locked in for that album. Oh Y'all would just hang out working at that point Yeah, we were just working just working There's really no I'd already sent the tracks and they pretty much decided that they wanted them Wow at that point So I just flew out there to lay them down. Okay. Yeah, it's right lay them down to the people that don't understand What the heck you mean when you say you Lay them down right babe.   I was a little I Wouldn't I wouldn't say late to the party in that but I still had my my old way and method of doing it So that's what I was sticking with but anyway like you used to have to deal with hardware And what hardware is like a keyboard or like a sound module or? Any other Drum machines or anything like that Nowadays it's all within the laptop. It used to be all separate pieces with us. Wow, so Lay the track down. I had to take my my keyboard my Drum machine and my rolling JV 1080 sound module all out there to Orlando We plug it into the studio. They sync it up and They sync it up through MIDI like everything all of those three machines were locked together You know I'm saying now all time synced all with each other So when you push the play button on the record or the console it kicks it off. Wow, and You land the tracks in real time So as as the tracks are playing You land it in real time on a I think we were working with pro-tools We were at least working produce at that time. Yeah, but uh pro-tools are still kind of new So just landed land each track cymbal kicks snare sample horn, whatever all in real time and then Then they will come back and wrap over it. Okay, I would come come in and work Wrap over that's to get it the technique down to where it sounds exactly how they want to get it Where's to actually make the song make the song? Yeah to record the song? I'm in time to where it didn't take a lot of time doing it back during this time. No, he you know He loved that music. Yeah, I love the way. He don't stop rapping Yeah, seem like he ain't gonna never stop when he start going it just it will keep going keep going I could hear him just you didn't it wasn't gonna be no stop like it almost wasn't gonna be no Chorus or none of that stuff. No, I'm saying that you noticed that right? Yeah And I love that because it made it feel like the momentum was just not letting down Yeah his style man his style is like One one thing I really like about his style He always manages to sneak some funny shit in a song like make it sound funny You know I'm saying I really can't think of a line right now, but I always remember laughing at a lot of his songs You know really? You know, he always he got a good way of talking to gangster, but then he'll make it sound funny You know I'm saying it yeah, so did you guys unique like that you okay? So after that you basically You stay down there. How long I think we're like three or four days. I'm like three or four days Yeah, it wasn't a long time. It didn't take long getting it done now. Yeah, so I Think the most thing when I look at webby and boozey like I said they both don't far as you Patriotic when you think about artists today Yeah, we on boss talk TV shot at the e heater reason you see