We're gonna do it how you want boss talk. Yeah, everybody on It's a unique host check it check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy. You see you when I'm here with the lovely Amazing official mr. Mako. What's going on? Not not even on my dad walk on man. Hey man. Check it man We got a guy here y'all. He don't need no introduction. We down here in Baton Rouge now We hadn't been in Baton Rouge. This is our first time shooting in Baton Rouge Y'all know we've been to Vegas Cali. I know we travel everywhere The earth is our turf. Yes, sir, and we couldn't come to the city Without coming in and talking to DJ Bootsy man. Listen man. Thank you for letting us come through. Well, I'm checking in Hold on for you check in. No, I want to say welcome to Jigga City. Oh That's what they call it Jigga City man Bootsy as in like boot and see or a boot see like Bootsy come boot like That's what I thought where you get that name from I gotta go get my sister why she call you Bootsy Well, that's supposed to me. I mean since birth What did you do why she think that you I don't know? But what so ironic is Up on learning my nickname. I thought it was my real name And when I used to be in school they used to be like They're coming on my government name, you know government name is Eugene man after my dad So they would be like Eugene. I say I never answer Eugene no Bootsy I'm here No, all of the kids at school started calling me Bootsy and then one of my favorite musicians is Bootsy Collins Didn't you hear his name the other day we just said it yesterday too I know Bootsy, but not Bootsy Collins. Who's that? What give us a song? No, but is it the dog Bootsy was a part of the Parliament. Okay with George Clinton. Oh And then He had his own spin-off for the Parliament Which was The rubber band I think it was the rubber band man band. Hmm. I try to deal with that that cue dog So ain't that the song? Oh, that's that's George Clinton. It's a dog. Yeah, a totally dog Yeah, so no Bootsy Collins broke off from there. Bootsy Collins came up. I'm gonna give you a little history right quick since y'all done been to the West a the classic sample of I Rather be with you. Yeah, of course is Bootsy Collins song but the Sample is actually NWA. I Rather With you.  Yeah, like like man Like I said, you you guys here in Baton Rouge got a lot going on man when it come down to the music You you you know, you got to think about it man and in in our history when we start looking back I thought about see Steve B. Low brought this up on my show. He used to be down here with a Mail and and what's the other guy? I mean turkey male. I know I know Steve. Yeah Steve That's my boy. All right. Like like he been on boss talk one-on-one. He rocked with me Yeah, and uh, and I don't think I ever missed he but through different people that I know The name always comes through switches in dojo.  I Never will you know what I? Never got a chance to see UGK. Okay as a whole but I've been to a bunch of Bun B concerts and Once I started DJing professionally. I also did street teamwork So I did street teamwork here in Baton Rouge for a rap a lot. Okay. That's all so, you know, I dealt with zero Bun B Scarface The the UTP project with juvenile So, you know, I pretty much took care of Baton Rouge and surrounding areas when they came to promoting They albums when it was getting ready to come out when you had CDs and concerts and all that stuff done that era Okay, so, you know, I dealt a lot of you won't we forget the voice you going through my phone That's hard man. Hey, you know, I didn't I remember back in the days, man I used to turn the car around if I leave my phone at home Say man, let me go get the damn back in the days. That's not now. Okay, so you got me a check now. Yes, damn You only as strong as your woman So So when you think about just the movement of this culture down here when you when I first seen Boosie little booze he was Pimp's Project he was with Pimp Pimp only not locked in a booze. He was because of Pimp see I'm being real I in Dallas they would they would play they would give me a take this how they told me they say hey man Get this right here. This dude named Boosie. He Pimp sees are artists. I'm saying that's how they told me So when I heard it the little voice that sounded weird to me at first Yeah, you had to get used to it now.  I always rock with him But when we became on the scene, I'm like, damn Because he came after you don't realize that I know because I'm old and I was listening So how did how did that even happen? Well, the thing was Before Boosie got with Trill, okay, which it's turkey male's label which I Can't remember exactly it. I Can't remember if it was turquoise. It was male, but one of them Was cool with Pimp. Okay. Can't remember if it was both or if it was one or the other so He basically gave them the blessings on Trill we'll start the company and Boosie was actually with C-Loke Before he was with Trill. Okay. I didn't know that.  What's the story whole story is C-Loke and partner of mine name fraud This was after the how you do that there and all that was put out and Of course after after the whole thing with With C-Loke in the priority deal Didn't go right they did, you know, he came back regrouped and Next thing, you know When he re-emerged It was the concentration camp So now the concentration camp was literally C-Loke J-Von and Max Manelli but then instead of Yumbly It was Boosie So fraud new Boosie and brought Boosie to C-Loke And I don't know if if your listeners or your viewers Who watched this show? Ever heard of diamonds in the dirt, but I think they should go It's all over social media is all over like to be and stuff like that They need to go watch diamonds in the dirt, which was put together by Max Manelli to shine light on Per se the diamonds in the dirt. Mm-hmm. So it talks about C-Loke and when he got with Master P and You know It's talks about Max and it talks about Boosie and other artists that was coming up in bad rules like MC Nero's like It's a big history of bad rules music that that starts back in the 80s Wow, which is so crazy. That is crazy. So it's like everybody only knows about Boosie, Trill, Webby, you know Kevin Gates and you know who y'all see now Which of course is Gates and young boy. Yeah, Fredo Bang and all them. Yeah So it's like the The music in bad rules, I mean, it's like before it was called jigger city. It was just simple bad rules You had your different styles of music. You had your party music. You had your gangster music So it's like that that's pretty much how it started, you know When I like I said When I think about bad rules, you know, the the Boosie and Webby era that was an era And then you think about the Kevin Gates era because it came before the NBA young boy era Yeah, so I'm looking at the phases of how it how it happened But when when Boosie and Webby was hot, Webby got real hot Well on that savage life man Yeah, so did you did you get a chance to you know, link with these guys when they was doing that music? Like not in the studio now, of course not in the studio, but of course Turk would always come to South bad rules because actually Me and Boosie is from the same hood. Okay. We're just From two different parts of the hood. Okay, he's from across the tracks in the bottom I'm from the bottom part. Okay, it's both in the bottom, but it's just you got the tracks that separated Yeah, so Like I say me. I'm all like Boosie already had a fan base being with C. Lo You know off the concentration camp. How was he when it was gonna be 15 15? Yeah, he had a he had a five 15 16 years old and you got to remember this is no social media That's what I know. He had to be on it. So but but that PMC Cosine came after that it didn't come before that Yeah, it came after he already had a follow-up. That's crazy. So what happened was Lo ended up Going to jail so he had to go and Do you know he had to do some time, of course for some stuff so rather than just Hold him Passed him on to turkey man, man. So Before where we came they put out Which everybody knew the green and yellow CD was the most fire CD that was out and It was it started the introduction to trill as An entertainment company because everybody knew per se the name trill from Pimp, okay Wrapping, you know with the you on the UGK so that's right So it was like you knew UGK, but you only it was never a trill entertainment tied into it until afterwards so once Boosie got signed then You know you had the next album Which I think it was ghetto stores from a steak and When they did ghetto stores now everybody was introduced to webby So it was like man who the hell listening is But what was so? Ironic about him. He was that he was a gangster like Boosie, but he was the opposite Because if you if you really listen so if you really listen to Boosie Boosie just Make those songs like he gave you the gangsta shit Just as well as webby but When Boosie kind of is a resemblance To two pop, okay with those heartfelt Those heartfelt songs, you know, like the my nigga records or like just those records That that talks about pain Which if you a big two-pot fan Paco's that same way a lot of people love those he can make party music, but he can make those songs that You just feel like man.  I ain't mad at you Even some of the album cuz that wasn't even radio records you can fill them With Boosie it was the same way, but it was the street records and then here come webby with Give me that and bad bitch So he had the females So it was like you got the females And you got the gangsta niggas but He started moving so of course when Label started looking at that because the thing is you look at What trail put together the whole South region Was own Boosie and webby Boosie and webby. I don't care where you at Alabama, Florida, Mississippi, Texas. It didn't matter Boosie Boosie Boosie Boosie webby webby webby But couldn't nobody else they was like man, how the hell they get down there From out of this region. It's like they make good music, too But it just didn't go as far as theirs Wow When you think about Boosie he he said something before he moved out from down there. He said that he couldn't stay here because of You know, you need to leave your yo, you need to leave your city. What do you agree with that? I agree I totally agree. Why why do why do you think it's like that for the for the for the artist? well For one thing and is that just here? No, I mean, I think that's anywhere So any artist if they're from that place should leave that place Yeah, and you agree with Boosie leave it. I agree because I mean think about it when you look at young doff Killed at home. Yeah, they're Memphis. Yeah You look at Motory mode three kill them Dallas Nipsey catch an LA kill an LA you look at But you gotta think about this to me you can always move out, but they have family there They're gonna go back and visit at one point or the other and then go right back home if it's meant for them to Pass away there. Somebody want to catch them there? They gonna catch them. Yeah, I'm great. This is enough. I just don't understand what I mean But see I'm gonna I'm gonna give you my my two or three Things I see about the whole idea Because one I Look at it like this Of course You deal with the crab in the bucket mentality, right?  So prior to me DJing for him. I just used to Move recklessly, you know, I used to let people know You know, whether I know where I was gonna be and stuff like that and since then I Don't call nobody.  I think at all points in time If you are making this particular type of money The one thing P always told me was I'm trying to make it back on to my family. Yeah, simple as that Let's go back though I want you to tell me how you end up linking with P to be the DJ you got to give me the details on that well actually I've always had a Good relationship with different people from no limit Okay in that heyday so I Ended up becoming mr. Magic's DJ. Okay, all right P mad I was his DJ Which he actually became big brothers spiritual advisor and so much other stuff. How are you at that time? I Was damn I wasn't you How were you when you started DJing I started DJing like at 15. Okay, so you started really young Yeah, I start like you were doing it for a while before that opportunity started Yeah, like I was like I was DJing while I was in high school but it was just Like my grandmother might have Like club meetings and stuff at her house and I'll just be playing music Do and then that turned into We would do block parties on our street with other family members in the neighborhood and I started DJing there and then starting in 2000 is when I actually Just took it seriously So I started learning the road start learning the game from the club owner and the DJ who I was dealing with and I just started dealing with different order cuz I used to always Meet Mac magic like I met all them the only ones I would never see was P Mia X Mr.. Servo on But everybody else I will always run into because you know, like I told you earlier me and C. Load or Partners, we still is partners right now to this day. So see murder used to come to his house And we used to go shoot basketball Because LSU's campus is literally like walking distance for me from where I live to campus So I used to always link up with them and then I became good friends with the different Street team guys that worked for them then became friends with security with big poker v90 and all them and then The guy that actually linked me up with Pete was my boss at the radio station. Okay, my friend j2 easy, okay so Some of his friends were my friends so they came to a club. I was DJ and it was like man. Yeah, your boy getting ready to come back because He's finna be the program director for max 941, which is the hip hop station here in bad news So when he came back he brought me in so I started learning the ropes of radio and What I needed to do this that the other and then Probably I Started he brought me on in oh for and I was hired Literally the week Is it like like a week or two before Katrina hit Wow? I was hired to work at the radio station and Then you know I'm still at the radio station to this day. That's good stuff doing all kind of other stuff, you know along with doing a mix show on the urban station. I have my own radio show on the CHR rhythmic station q106 Plus I'm the program not program. I'm the production director over there too So, you know in order to stay in certain things you have to learn how to do more than one thing Let me ask you this My shout out trio talk little pill talk. He sent this question in he says that you say that little John stole your ad lipo No, he didn't steal my little well you stole his of partner mine one up one of us look one of my partners who The yeah, just like my brother the yeah More than a year the whole style more than a year. What was his name partner DJ incredible? Okay? he from Alexandra Lajan met him out there, okay, Alexandra, and if you really think about it and If you listen to who you with yeah Compared to after who you with you notice the difference. Yeah, Lajan didn't have the yes and the what's and all that Incredible yeah, and I can vouch for this because I was in the club all these times when He was DJing at this club, and it just so happened little John came in town for the night and came to the club and Incredible was saying what yeah the same way And it's really a lot of Badden rule style that Atlanta stole so you saying that your partner What the heck was little John doing down here anyway though just uh, yeah, he had a show or no He have a show. He was just down here. Just you know like I guess it was down here You know doing doing radio work, you know because at that time I think he just signed with TV T at that time So when he gets back and you hear him for the first time doing that where were you at and what were you doing? And what did you think I never really paid attention. I Was just like okay doing something different, you know, because it was a sign It was the same thing like who you with but it was just more amped up You know, I didn't put two and two together and I just didn't put two and two together and then men incredible was talking and it was like I knew stole my shit Because he literally was saying those things all the time all the time in the club And see that was the thing Like the club he DJ that and the club I ended up DJing that which was vibes like This club everybody would go to and when this club shut down at two o'clock Everybody would go to the other club because it didn't close to the floor because it's outside of the city limits mm-hmm, so You would always hear Did like incredible by him being from Alexandra, Louisiana, Natchez area You were here. He would play What was hot here, but he will also play the Houston music he will play the Atlanta music and stuff like that whereas you go to The club across the real they didn't close to the four vibes That DJ there. He's really from New Orleans. His DJ name is DJ. New Orleans. Wow. So those two was my like Those who I came up under So I just put they styles and made it my style because this shit I talk on the mic comes from incredible but the other style is a mixture of both of them so When you go like he will play a lot of the same stuff But then he will play the bounce records from New Orleans He will play like the partners and crimes and stuff like that and of course anytime you saw Either artists from no limit or artists from cash money on somebody else record You wanted to Listen to that record because that might be a record that you ended up breaking at the club Mm-hmm.  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah with China white who is my good friend and Too short. I think you know China white. That's my girl.  She was a good friend to magic and then she might like that's my that's my girl Wow, so I like what did you think about her style and just her China white? I mean a delivery and all that what song she's saying she got Well, she was on be a beer Yeah, she really never got a chance to really just do all right thing like she she ended up having Like other songs they ended up making it on certain Soundtracks or whatever because she got a song called what they want With uh, it's actually two versions. It's a version with just her on it But the ad libs it has one of the yin yang twins on it Okay, but then the other version it has One of the guys from the yin yang twins on it. She got that She actually had a song called girls get booked With uh with P on it. Wow, but it's just certain records With her and then you gotta think at that time It was it was hard For you to see a bunch of females Really one at a time. Yeah, it was like one or two at a time. It's still kind of like that. No, I ain't like that You have when I think about the one who'd be the hottest at the time. I just put it like that for me You don't have a lot of phases. Yeah, see you only had like back then you had me a ex you had Well, like we can go back even further.  You had MC lights before that But no, no what I'm saying, but I'm saying what I'm saying in that era See in that which era that era when no limit was hot you had me a meal this meal and you had me Maybe Trina You had all you think no Kim Kim wasn't Kim had them went back. She had it went down cuz Biggie got killed in What year you talking about? I'm talking about like 97 to 99. I was right after that, you know She came out with she came out that would be for Foxy and Kim but together together, but but you know, I see Foxy was on Meals out on meal song The party don't stop So it's just really like you had Because you had yo-yo you had like I'm not saying you ain't have lady rage You had different ladies.  Yeah, that was a different time So a different time different place different era different, you know I'm saying like like that was a that was a get it out The mud era, you know, and that's the whole game So when you think about just the whole that whole movement, it was a different time But China white China white was a one of them one of the ones that that when you think about China white man That her She did a thing. She did a thing nice song.    You probably don't even know China white was on a no-limit album Which one the twins can't enable. Okay. I know that the seven sins the basement She was on there. Yeah with Mia.  Do the do the artists get their recognition through the radio, you know play down here Or do they do like the mainstream because I never been here, but I know in some cities It's hard for the local artists to get on the radio. It's It's kind of somewhat there's a lot of politics It's politics, but it's not politics the whole thing is like when they come ask me man I want man. I want to get on the radio. It's a shit hot in the streets And I was telling them that when JT when J tweez was the program director because if you Like what they got to understand is a story with music if you have a story so just look at if You have a 100 cars passed by there's bumping NBA young boy and then you got another hundred cars bumping the same young boy song it makes it easy for me To go to bat and say man, we need to play this record When I go to my boss or if I put it in mix show rotation Because now in this day and age you have You know Playlists you have this you have that so is that a point now to a certain degree radio is last well Back in a day radio was first. Yeah. Yeah so My thing is They come in you know, they come up to me like yeah, man, man.   What what part of Baton Rouge and how did you hear about him? Well Kevin Gates actually first started with dead game records, okay So they're game records was independent labor straight out of Baton Rouge actually Guys I grew up with is who started it. Okay, so They had the orders name Kevin Gates his first record Was a ray gay style type song called getting away. Okay, which I like the record But you know certain people liked it, but That song I figured was more Kevin Gates Than the other music he had put out after that So of course to to really the thing with the thing that's so hard with Baton Rouge is They They kind of want what they want Like if you try to go do a specific type of style of music They won't gangsta shit.    Yeah, but you didn't be a young bus. I'm different man. These kids from Little bro. Yeah all the way up Man, that's that care. What's going on, baby? My point in crime on a new limit to you I Man, so what's going on? Yeah, you know, I'm here for booze. You know, that's my brother, you know Yeah, man. So man, you you know when I when I Come down, you know, I got with him. He told me about your man I said man, I got a right with this dude man See what's going on in the BR cuz this my first time here and really I ain't saying here But passing through I passed through a lot. I never stayed. You know what I'm saying And uh, but when I'm in chaos, I gotta get over the BR, man I gotta go see what's going on. I already love the music, you know But like I said NBA young boys something different man, you know what I'm saying like he appeared to the kids all the way up They they keep coming on show talking about him. He put a song out on YouTube It is goes crazy anytime. So when you first heard about him like, how was that and when was it? actually my business partner who I have a studio recording studio with actually Used to record him. Okay.  Okay, and then probably He dropped He dropped 30 a baby. So Yeah And now that's what that was on and I'm like Just a nigga here Because the whole thing is see when your kids start bumping. That's what I'm saying. It wakes you it wakes you up It's like so now You know, I have a Well, when is that I have a 15 year old? Yeah, he's your daughter should be 15.    So, you know, it's like It's just like young boy Fredo bang.  Yeah.  You're right. You gotta you gotta book him Because he crossed over to we got a lot of people like Cal Did you ever see this coming like the way these these young artists is like like with the way they do it now, too Cuz back back, you know when we we a we go back in this Cassette tapes and all type of hand-to-hand, you know what I'm saying, but now they they move in different Did you ever see this coming? No No, and then on top of it. I wasn't I wasn't prepared for it I don't think nobody was prepared for it It's like when you come from the era that we in It's very hard To just transition to the new shit. Yeah. Yeah, because with me Like perfect example, right? Um, when we recorded mystical ready to rumble album, okay? um This is when pro-tools was just transitioning into the new recording, right? So, um, when we started that record, I was like, um called job and like Y'all had to send me some more reels It was like man, you don't have pro-tools yet And I'm like, no, what's that? What is it? You know, and then they put me on and what it was and I'm like, okay Because I have matter of fact we bought Chris Clay studio me and Craig B and um We had a two inch reel And um, when they told us about that, you know, I was like No, I I'm not I'm not on it yet. I'm make, you know I don't know it. What is it? Yeah, and it was just a new transition But like right now from what we coming from it's not like we was in the middle of The new and old like we was straight from the old. So it wasn't a transition in point to me You know, I'm saying so just just as well like some of the artists that he named Every artist that he just named I know their name. I'm familiar with their name because my kids talk about them But if you put them in front of me, I wouldn't know who is who wow Yeah, yeah, you know, so I just talked to boosted before he came like me. I gotta get some new music from you, bro I just told him because like I get a lot of calls with DJ and Like because I wasn't doing it other than the tour You know, I'm saying to me traveling with mystical or whatever and A lot of people starting to call me for for gigs and I had to just kind of just let them go because I'm not familiar I'm familiar with some of the music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but not enough enough of the music. That's right And so that's why I got with like spin boozy Captain Charles, you know, I'm saying and um Like a rise move And it just kind of put me on like, you know, with a lot of the uh The stuff that's going on, but you know coming coming from where we come from, you know, like you you've seen cassettes You've seen CDs. You thought that was huge. You know, I say really like when you first seen the CD like man Like you can put all these songs on here I would throw like dang and it's quick and it's easy and you didn't think Me personally, I was like, this ain't going nowhere for a while and it didn't last long Just think about how fast when the minute the iPod hit Right, look how fast it came and went From you buying an iPod tonight is on your phone And on your watch for real. That's it. Yeah That's crazy. And then when you really look at it, it's just like he was saying with the transition.  Yeah that you can roll with number of records in it And taking that To transition into CDs Right and you having book who books to CDs to now It's on a laptop on a laptop Or something this big That's crazy.  Yeah Right, you know, it's just like yeah You got to have a backup to a backup but the music like like like when when when the music went digital like it did and It almost seemed to lose value But then they tried to figure it out as it was changing and transforming to streaming And I think that was something that that took people by surprise somewhat as well When it first happened That's why I think like right now It's so easy To be an artist Because you can't take a loss Not a big loss, you know, just think about it bullseed was like The process and the money it took To buy a beat And pay for studio time like right now it wasn't no thing about yeah, my partner got a uh a little set up in his room by his closet To where you literally had to go And buy studio time And like I said once before that even When you bootleg music back then oh man, I remember you had to buy blank CDs Get jackets made Buy the casing Buy some uh pay somebody to print up the j-cards.   You know what I'm saying? It's like You know, you still gotta spend money, but you ain't gotta spend money Yeah, yeah, right to go to Well, yeah, man, I'm going by KL to record I can record you right here right So the punching in thing did he get more popular later on or because I'm asking you this KL Or or were they punching in early on? No, you see what I'm saying. They no punching in always was there But you look at it like Right now It's to a point to where If the way is used now, it's kind of how like Auto tune is okay But one thing about it is when you when you do go to studio the studio is to perfect it as well as you can get it Which is understood but like What auto tune Auto tune was for corrections to where You get an artist up in there And they'll go sing if they hit like one one word or two out of key. They'll just go to that one word and fix it But now they just running Everybody The whole thing everybody's running their whole song Through or to where their music They vocal sound flawless But didn't want to have to perform live Mayor That's when it shows and that's when it hit That's it. I haven't seen it. That's why I'm laughing and see the bad part about it is you have to have the auto tune With with you to perform that part because if you don't They go you're gonna be exposed exposed And that's crazy because you would think they would want to Now I I heard we we was in vegas and I seen t pain and you know He started off strong with that auto tune, but this dude actually can sing and everything And I listened to him and and without any of that and he was going in But see the way t pain you that he moved he used it more Move like an effect. Yeah instead of I'm a correct fix everything He's not correct in anything. He was just using it Kind of like how future uses it. Okay, right. Yeah And um, he just made it into another instrument where everybody else Is using it as like he'll is saying to correct or carry Them to the song the reason I mentioned the the the punching in is because I was just interviewing uh, dj bermain one down in Uh, at lele and he was like shout out bermain one. He was like, uh, He had some youngsters in the studio trying to punch in and he was taking forever and he hated it He said because he said but he had bun that flew in and bun just did his bun Put it down He was already put down so fast and all that if he didn't have time for all that because this this this like this is the difference of the transition from The old generation to the new to where like Both you know what we did when we made records back then It was no thing of sending some beats You had to come into the studio That's how like a lot of classic records is here. No email. Right. It wasn't no email You had to come to the studio with the producer and y'all was going to get up in there and bang something out But how long did it take though? Was it right? Hold on. But see this did this and I'm getting to like the punching in part is like The artists will get with the producer. They they find a beat Then an artist will write to the beat and so As he writing to the beat he's learning the lyrics as he writing them you know I'm saying and by time He goes through the process of writing these lyrics because just think about like when you write when you write lyrics You may be going over this line at least 15 or 20 times thinking they ain't trying to think about what was the next line that's going to follow So you're rehearsing this line and line until the next one come And by time you do that and go through the whole process of getting the verse you didn't study the whole record me So when like he was saying when bun got in the boot By him rehearsing this line over and over and over of learning and trying to create the next one He know it. He know it. So by time he going to boot, you know, the only thing he's thinking about is perfecting it You know what I'm saying I tell what what boosie was saying is it's more like The artist they'll get up in there They'll think of it. You know I'm saying and before you know it The first thing coming ahead to come to the head. They are running but you know When you have an engineer behind you Now I'm at what you said. I didn't I didn't get it. They're not saying it right they're mumbling any words You know I'm saying they smoke again high and blah blah blah and see And that is the whole process of why it takes so long From them for them to record records because they do not you know what I'm saying Study they just come up with something right then in there and most of the time some of them do it And they'll they may get luck up and record it faster But don't know the records do you think it's time to perform? Do you think it's because people you hear the statements like jay-z didn't write or he don't write or Or a little wane don't write it or you know, you hear these things and these kids hear this stuff And they automatically they trying to be rappers.  They in my inbox all day and and but they tip my I don't write Like okay needs to write And it sound like You see what I'm saying because I mean I mean the whole thing is You you have to really Be a perfectionist to even do what A pee did to do what a wane did Jay-z or whoever because trust me If you would have ever told me back then that pee Did not write his words.    Wow Yeah, yeah So practice make perfect. So when you do this enough Anything comes easy to you But the average artist that's saying this here right now, right? How long have they been in the game? And the ones i'm talking about ain't been in at all hard. Okay, they ain't even gotta hit you They didn't even do the project for a project They just like I I think it's a popular thing that they Latched on to because they see the grace saying it and they like man i'ma say i'm i came right I that's gonna be just that's gonna make me look away. You know what i mean, right? They try and do exactly what Everybody else is trying to do right because think about it They if they going in there thinking that they can rap Without even writing it down. Even if you writing it in your phone in your phone then You you're gonna you're gonna you getting yourself caught up in the wrong thing because think about it You trying to go and be a wane or a jz But you don't even know where you're trying to go But but but that made the punchy and thing more predominant is what i'm thinking More people start punching in because they trying not to write You know what i'm saying?  Yeah, that's why if you listen to everybody's song right now, right?  Yeah Think about you trying to rush the process that part. Yeah. Yeah And then you gotta think about this it too like, you know, a lot of the labels Can take fault for this because even like This is trying to kill a lot of labels is trying to catch up and redo what No limit did like when we would have 98 when we drop like 20 some album. Yeah, really sell That's a lot to keep up with. Yeah. Yeah And the thing about it is that when we was dropping them records like that um Even though it was one project But it was eight people working on it man That's a lot Like like that's a lot of projects man Like you didn't see that that you don't see it like that anymore for show is i ain't no And even during that time you didn't see nobody just come back and Work like that, right? You may get two or three, but you're not for the getting old 20 nothing, you know what I mean and not and it be popping on the charts and think about it, you know what I mean out of out of all of the independent labels that I've seen They never did with with kl and p and no limit did In that era, you know what i'm saying like Ruthless records death row none of them not it not even You know But right you think about it even about it the movie that that you didn't see people doing independent nothing When I first seen p doing that and y'all doing that it tripped me out It made me feel good because I was like man, you know, they're doing anything You know what I'm saying but the independent thing like everybody's there now Of course because they have to be because a lot of people not even pulling a lot of people in And they you got an opportunity to go independent because the director consumer But right but you guys did it in a time when it really wasn't just a popular thing to even be a part of You see what I'm saying when you were y'all was just straight up putting bags up. I know when I talked to big Court, you know, he put he even did a movie. You know what I mean, right? So stuff like that that's amazing, man It's before your time is what I'm saying. Right, right. You didn't see that Now you really look at it. I mean you look at what what that what they did with He basically did what Michael Jordan was doing When joins came out everybody was waiting on them bitches to come out, right? When they put out CDs everybody was waiting on them to come out for show So which one which what what? Project sticks out the most to uk For as when you were doing all those 20, you know, that's a lot of damn projects, man Ghetto D was it was either out of ice cream man and ghetto D because ice cream man all the first true album because The first body was first introduced on the first true album. Yeah. Yeah Then we did the ice cream man album We'll put about it even there But we did albums in between now when we did ghetto D ghetto D is The 400 degrees of no limit That's so well, right. Yeah. Yeah And truthfully you think about like Like make them say uh, it's like that was probably like When we did that record it was more of um That was probably the biggest that was a double platinum single back then You know ghetto D peaked out At its peak was at four million Back then So it had to be that album um Ghetto D ghetto D. That's all right because ghetto D was the first album when Everybody started that's when mac and feme made their debut. Yeah um That's when uh The first album when beats by the pound was fully formed. Yeah. Yeah I I want to go back a little bit though. Also Soldier slim I've seen you on the documentary just here recently. I said, it's my boy. That's my guy right there, man So that documentary it just kind of you know, it brings back I guess 50 Cent is doing something on on uh What it was it called some hip-hop homicide, right and and I see you on there and so What did you think about the project once you've seen it? Well, when I looked at it is that um It was it was stuff in there that that still wasn't Said but It was more like um The people who knew of slim Finally had a chance to see what he really meant to the city. Okay No people know him by name but until You hear the people from the city talk to let you know how and what he meant to the city He was some he was something serious and I always say like lyrically Slim wasn't the best lyrically, but slim could go but when you talking about That street shit of the city of New Orleans That just like within bad rules, you know, I'm saying it's just like in bad rules, too Well, I was just thinking about this it other day booze is that If I'm to break down bad rules, right Artists, okay See look the big dog all father.  We ain't talked about yet. Oh, yeah Love him. Yeah Talk to me a little bit about it. Nobody is gonna out club bang this man, bro He banged the club out. He is the club Banger king they gave him the name. He gave him the name He's gonna make the it's gonna go crazy. Like he he he's been in the game 18 years. Yeah Down there like 15 18 years and consistent Yeah Consistent hits hits for the women Hits for the niggas dance records He owned it. He owned it Man then he went and took One of mouse's hardest records that he put out When he was with trill.  Yeah It's like I'm gonna put it to you like this about bad rules and it's the same thing with new wallers You can literally go to those two cities and literally if The dj's really wanted to You won't hear no other record and either one of these cities Because they have so much History of music right between the two cities I mentioned, uh I mentioned Busey we did a while ago, but Mode three we mentioned mode three me and you did his documentary came out this week. It came out after The so slim uh What a documentary When you heard him on the tracks with uh boosie, what did you think about those songs that that he was doing? R.p mo three that that dude, uh, yeah If if would have had what if would happen to him hadn't happened He was about to be that next nigga to come out of Dallas Like because I mean I get people come and ask me to till this day To play man play mode three So it's just Unfortunately his time got cut right And I think I think the one thing These these artists got to understand is if you in the streets You got to decide You want to be a D boy Or you want to be an artist can't be both can't be both Well, let me ask you this when you was dealing with whether it was uh Soldier slim or any of those artists because you you had to deal with a lot of Being that you straight lays when I meet you I see you and everybody tell me you business You straight business how hard was it keeping? You know that from coming into your world when you was when you were basically working with everyone It was it was more like was slim slim Took all this street problems and put it them on and put it on record. That's what his mom said That's what he did like we'd be in the studio in the basement on the park where you know, you You call me way at funky B man. They got you playing with me. Me mad the studio. I gotta get now He always would put it on the record. You know put it on the record Wow, you know and and it was just more like that's why I like A lot of people took to him You know I'm saying and um And the whole thing is that The reason why they gravitated because slim slim Him and see had that same R to where like with them two they they kind of I'm not going to say they bought peace between the caliote and magnolia But you have one from the caliote one from the magnolia on the same label so They bought a kind of They made it at ease Yeah because you know See took slim Even though they was always in and out the projects each one of them But you know, it was more with see like, you know, y'all know what it is That's my name.  Yeah, y'all gonna y'all gonna accept them as I do And it was the same with slim because none. I'm was scared to go and eat a project. Yeah.  You know what I mean and to see how he is now and just him You know interacting on the stage and all that good stuff, man Well, one thing I didn't get a chance to see but boosted saw it. Okay, was um His first time hitting the stage. Okay. You you didn't get to see I didn't get to see that Who was it? You got to give it up. I mean the thing was It was different because The people really did like it was a surprise. Yeah, that was one part The other part was he came out in all black. Okay, and He had his head tilted to where you couldn't see his face. Okay So what ended up happening, you know, once the song started coming on people just Had to warm up warm up to it. Yeah so The thing was When you remember mac you remember Camouflage, yeah, yeah, but he came out in all black. He came out in all black. He wanted to leave The camouflage behind. Yeah. Yeah so We did that show And we he ended up being added on to the rest of the shows. Okay so M&P had a conversation whatever that conversation was We got ready for the next show He still was trying to you know He still was trying to find his way To get back to he wanted he wanted to leave the camouflage Because that's what got him putting to the situation He was in yeah, we're going to jail because They listening to what he's saying but not understanding what he's saying. Okay. He's a storyteller. Yeah, right So His biggest and chaos on on this one. He was there when we did dc Which I knew I didn't know what the hell was gonna happen. I know I know what's gonna happen, but I'm not knowing What's gonna happen? Okay, because by then The conversation is had after we do that one show That p is going to bring him out now.  Yeah, so by the time he didn't he didn't did a couple shows So he's starting to get his swag back The show we did in dc He come back out there. This motherfucker got camouflage on And after that He was back. Wow, but you know and and I asked you that because of how Not so much as a crowd reaction, but just his demeanor Because it's a challenging thing To come from that.  I gotta get him back on the show Yeah, because because he because the thing was and he actually Said this to me And he said in in some interviews that he's done since he's been home, you know Like you got to think You've been locked up for 21 years.   I don't know about this one. Yeah that one that one Yeah, that's so you really you really got to be around Long enough to be like, okay Take a deep breath I'm good now Yeah, yeah, it just took him some shows Because he I mean the thing about mac Mac was gone 21 years but Mac is literally doing his shows With no vocals on Right TV trade Yeah, he don't wrap over his he don't wrap over his lyrics And I understand why after interviewing him because he he wouldn't ever do that Not not him. Well, he just just think about the gap that they had from How we was recording then within 21 years to how they're doing it now So it wasn't he had to just ease off and he was now he had to literally Go from here to here. Wow You know, so and doing it and doing it that's all that's all Shout out to mac man. Like I said, I just I love the fact that I see him You know, I see him doing this thing man And I know already this internet and these podcasts and all this stuff Is needed now that people don't realize it's changed now You know, these are things that we do Not only to educate the culture but also to keep people to understand where our people are at when it comes down to The entertainment and stuff. So just a dope thing to be able to see him and be able to see him moving forward. You know what I'm saying? So when you look at this bad news area and and I thought it was 45 minutes To new Orleans. I'm like it ain't but 45 minutes. It's a little longer than that Depending on how you drive. Y'all drive bad. I already see what's going on. Y'all speed man I'm gonna put this thing like this It depends on what part of New Orleans you're going to Okay, how fast you driving right and the traffic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah that traffic. Now.  That's what it was. Yeah, they played a land of the day So when when it went when the sinks have a home game you people come in as far as through port They come in to that game. Yeah, they come from Mississippi. I wonder why all them folks was leaving. I was like man Right. Yeah, I told my wife it's gonna be 45 minutes Like you don't see that kind of traffic on the sunday. No, no, you don't see that The same game. Yeah. Yeah. And then you got to look at the sinks and the pelicans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And then the pelicans out you're burning up now. You know I'm saying so, you know And then it's the holidays too. So you factoring Saints as a pelicans playing away.  I'm asking this top three. You gave me your top three. I remember you Number one top three of all time Number one Ban Rouge or this this anywhere Any genre we do this on every episode. So number one No, no, we yeah, you get to that but I I want to know Your bad rude rating. Oh, okay That's all right I wasn't gonna do it like that because I don't know if you want to make those choices. I'm a god. This is what I'm gonna do I'm gonna give you my five No, my wife ain't going for that. Hold on. That's our rule.  Yeah, that we do you the three we do three for bad rude and then we get another Oh, yeah, I did say about all right my three For for bad rude. Let's do everybody first. Okay, let's go Michael Jackson. Yeah, that's a that's a regular one. We get you did Michael Jackson, too.   And then who was the third one? Who was the third one? He did you did Michael Jackson. No, we did producers. We did producers. That's what we did.  So so So who is your top three in bad rude? Let's go, man. Let's make the work And let's make the work Top three in bad rude Level my favorite bad rude orders. Oh, yeah, that's off top.  No a full name Nero. Yeah a full name Nero He started god bless his soul.  Yeah, I look for it.   Oh, yeah So it's like it's like have it been a female to come out of here yet Not even one not one Wow, that'll be hard right there boy That's history.  Yeah, you know what I'm saying this and that's what I like about The internet and just all anything can go crazy at any time If it's good enough the internet will tell you the people will tell you this is what it is Right. You just said that. Yeah, he said that you can do about it.   Yo shit ain't hot It ain't hot go back and record another song, but that's the best way to be yeah because my whole thing is What would The respect I gained from the the artist You know before this era Of and I'm not talking about the era of the artist But the era of just putting music on social media Everybody knew You want your music heard you got to take it to boost it. Yeah, true That's real like You know when The game Because that's that's what they was called the game. They came up with the jiggly They came to boost it like I told you earlier turk. Yeah boost away yet I'm gonna bring this brand new boost. I'm gonna bring this brand new every brand new fox Like I broke fox wiped me down The original version the original version and My partner DJ jelly. Yeah at that time he was DJing for For um And he was down here for a station summer jam event It was like man.  I said fox called right now Man, like I said with no computers. Yeah. Yeah, it was cd He's like man.  You know already come more copy.  Yeah It was before the young blues.   You say young bleed Yeah, how you do that, though? That's my boy, man Yeah, young bleed. I interviewed him. I always keep forgetting to say that you're I think I said on our interview I interviewed him virtually, but he talked about that that song man and and I talked to him He was out of state somewhere and I don't know how I met my brother He ended up getting on the phone with him and me and him just you know We talked and this was I don't know if this was before Boss talk even started and then obviously when I started that he was one of the first ones, man And just that whole that song right there, man I think Ricky smiling everybody used that song man. That song was big man, right? Oh, I forgot to add You was gonna you said level I gotta ask you about that Like what made you think or feel that he's the biggest, you know your number one Who level yeah I needed an explanation on that because you said it and you The club told me Oh, yeah The club and the DJs told me like yeah, let me tell you level He's drunk. He's loud and you gotta listen. You cannot listen to him Wow And he's wild in real life like he is on the records You got that energy you got this character is the same on the records in person All of them although all of them all love but it just if you let him if you let him if you literally Feature him on your record You forget it.  That's my bro They did a record called money, right? Oh man, and he hated like little Cali did not like that record. He hated that record And I'm like And at that time he was doing he had he was with asylum a little Cali was And they was trying to do they was trying to go through the whole For some reason asylum always wanted to run everybody through boosted and true.  He had a record with oj the juice man. Oh, yeah I'm like That's cool.    We from the book little John.  There's so many different ones, but sometimes They just get lost in the sauce they just get lost because like I'm gonna give you a prime example Little dude named tg commas He had he got a record called turn me up. Mm-hmm. It's called turn me up be real because Be real is the dude that did the trick. Yeah, I see him.   Okay You know, they hide here But nowhere else, you know Like five four nine. There's another artist. He from New Orleans He hide here but Is that record popping anywhere else? So, you know, you have artists that have songs That pop in certain cities But don't pop nowhere else.  No, because you know, you can't know you can't know now But it's just it's just the whole aspect of Sometimes when you align yourself with a certain person In that city it can work Because I see so many artists like I look at the little cat I think t real.  Hold it. Yeah But He did a song with boosted, but ain't nobody checking from here. He out of Topeka, Kansas. Yeah. Yeah, exactly You know, and he hanging out in that lima. He become a boss talk a lot.  What about it? It's somebody else too fat. Any fat the one that passed away. Love fat.   That's the thing that trickles down man like Man, I don't know why it's crazy. It's like like I say, I mean You really gotta You really gotta keep your eye open for everybody that's that's around you because You got people that won't see you in but you got a lot of motherfuckers that don't want to see you in Yeah, man It's something like it's like all I want to wrap up some time I want to ask Kale like how important was it when you guys was coming out with the sound? I know y'all was in Cali and everywhere But for for the New Orleans Baton Rouge area like for it to when it hit New Orleans, you knew it was going to hit Baton Rouge Or either before you went up to LA and it at when you was doing your music The influence did how how important was it for it to hit this Baton Rouge area one thing that I could tell you About New Orleans and Baton Rouge music is this You got to think club first Out the gate out the gate. Did I catch on to what you're saying? But if it if it don't appeal directly to the club You know I'm saying it got to appeal to the club. It have to It have to you know I'm saying it is definitely our music is straight Just think about it. What commercial music have you ever heard come from Baton Rouge? or New Orleans now bling bling was one That was hard though. It went crazy Outside of that.     Well, you I could say this is a true that White man I could have been Way bigger than what it was if it had a stronger machine behind it I agree with that too.   Yeah But luke started it Give him that credit show But when it comes down to straight dance ad shaking record Back that ass gonna be the first record that comes to mind. Yeah. Wow It's gonna be it's gonna be hard for another ad shaking record As a matter of fact, we was at a bmi event and back that ass up It was like five or six years ago As a matter of fact, it was when when mystical, you know, did a thing with cash money He was invited to do a tribute To juvie. He had to do the juvie high record, right? Yeah, and they rewarded they they rewarded cash money um And this was before streaming.  Wow Wow I gotta ask you something that And I gotta ask you because I said I would I'm man of my word Yesterday, I was uh big boss. You remember that he say ask Not just you but anybody on no limit How you know how he looked at how how what they thought about him Now boss, let me tell you something boss That's what he told me. Boss. Boss was p Voice of reason. Okay um Bob's are like Pretty much His his pressure on people when he went when somebody they appear be there have people people tell people like I pee I don't know about that. I think you need to think about it.   He he was like P voice of reason, you know, I'm saying boss was able to be the one to If you if if if artists couldn't get p to listen Say boss, bro Say p bro, let me tell you something I want some real shit, bro Because sometimes hearing it from him p hearing it from him is different from hearing it from you And this is it's not that that that Pete in respect they word But Sometimes it just come it sound better coming from boss being being in a being in a position that bothers in correct You know I'm saying and then you know, it's like um Boss he was straight straight About no limit, you know, I'm saying p water too like Bars and Mia Is my son godmother and godfather wow and serve and his ex-wife was The godmother the godmother and godfather of My second daughter wow We kept everything in the family in the family everything your character though, but you know Your character though at my dog though Right at my dog like he can tell you about that part Okay, just like I can tell you about me meeting boss On the other side, you know like on the tours and doing yeah, you know Like whenever p would do a show somewhere or he'll be in LA and I'm in LA He bought his business, but he your character too No You'll be surprised like Fucking so just swimming snoop.  Yeah Yeah, they always talk about when p I guess snoop was brought down here and they gave him a house and he had everybody here in there, you know Or when they or when y'all went to LA, but but it's just it's something about the way you guys moved That that that's just extraordinary to me as a team, you know what I mean, right seem like y'all stayed pretty close You know what I mean together in a way to where y'all understood where everybody was at It was man.   Yeah. Yeah You know I'm saying to the be like, okay What's new this week? you know I'm saying and New limit being who they were at the time well What's going on in New Orleans? And it was like, um They had some hate like yeah, man.  Wow And he went silk did a song with j. Yeah, but if you notice after that Red man and met the man became a group. Yeah, there was about to do the murder ink with j jah in um X yeah, damn X. Oh, yeah, that was an all right, man To where they stayed within they circle of dev jam forming groups Yeah You know I'm saying yeah, and the same with same will cash money Everything was in house production videos Everything studios Everything man, it's a different. Yeah, I mean people cut from a different cloth during those times, man A lot of people didn't even know That they studios right now, right? I yeah, he told me that like we're like Couple buildings down That's where it all started. Wow back back right in bad rude. Okay. You saw the Marriott, right? Yeah. Yeah Is the building across the lawn? That's that's the old That's where no limit studio. Well, no limit studio was the original That was the first yeah the first one as a matter of fact.  Yeah, right, but that's how smart he was. He was yeah, right? Yeah, yeah And the entire studio office Was probably You put that the viola right here. Yeah, close it off Just it was this part just this part was the size of the And probably a little smaller smaller than that smaller than that. I've never been in there But I know the building I know the building and I always used to ride by there and see them In the wee hours of the fucking night they had one two Wait, I think it was like what four rooms. It was the studio room Then to vest the room then peak room And then the studio room in a little kitchen area. Yeah, big enough just for a microwave Big enough just for a microwave.  Look what it blossomed into man changed the world man change changed my world You know i'm saying the music man is something else man. Hey, man. It's crazy, man Yeah, man. Thank you guys, man Man, I got man. I got the interview dj boots. See man. Yeah, you know i'm talking about Man, thank you so much man. Thank you, man. Hey man boss talk 101 man. Hey, he a regular so I can't even Can't regular man. Like I gotta got to I don't care what I'm up coming to see you I'll be fire you any time I'm down here, man. I'm gonna tell you is if care giving me the call I know it's official. Oh, yeah, man.  I'm gonna say last time he was been on that thing. He gonna owe me about this. Yeah He's like, I don't know how I didn't get I looked after man. I posted man. I said man. I told him I was here I just go what he told me He's like, I didn't get to hear back from him But I just enjoyed man love the music love the culture. Yeah, and I think it gives out our people our Children just the people that watch Understanding and the development of the foundation that way they can understand truly what how it happened Without this, they don't understand. That's why I love it so much to be honest with you. Like I told you earlier, you know You know your viewers and stuff, you know If they want to find out more about the bad news music scene Like I told you earlier diamonds in the dirt diamonds in the dirt It's on to be and all other you know different platforms and stuff like that and they getting ready They were actually working on I ain't gonna say they're getting ready to drop it But they working on part two. All right, give me just just what did what did pimp see mean to you? Man Let me tell you something when we was locally Well pimp wasn't there bones there, but Just to create a thought his unselfishness because people don't know Pimp is a bad motherfucking producer man. Correct. Yeah They don't talk about that about him.   They don't they don't talk about him as a producer They talk about them lyrics.  That's him on them. Yeah, you know, Joe that wouldn't but it is Pimp that man. They don't talk more about pimp About him as a producer man man unselfish because I I never forgive when we did kick though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man You talked about it. I never forget it man. Like he He waited for me To come do the drums on that record just so because he didn't need me on it You know I'm saying but he was like since I'm here I Want the pound involved with the record. Hey, that's hard.  That's one of my favorite your favorites my favorites right there but I think One of the ones I truly love from pimp That didn't involve No limit Was having things The thing went hard didn't Man It's just boys and something else on that one.  Yeah, that's all Thank you guys man. Pimp and mama was man. What you saying man? Thank you guys man. Hey, man Check it man. Make sure you guys like and subscribe to our channel, man It's been another great segment a boss talk on the one where the bosses talk


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