This is covering the spread here are your hosts Jim Saunas and Dr. Ed Fang What is going on everybody? Welcome into covering the spread. That's right here on the fan dual podcast network and numberfire.com Where today we are getting you said for the Travelers Championship with Colin Davey He is a data scientist on Twitter at a DJ baseline talking about his favorite bets for the Travelers Championship and his general process For betting on golf. My name is Jim Saunas I am a senior writer and analyst for numberfire.com joined here as always by Ed Fang You can find his work at thepowerank.com. Ed, they announced last night baseball is coming back It will be opening day on July 23rd We are less than a month away from the opening unless things get weird until then which they could how you doing? I'm doing pretty good. I'm a little bummed that this weekend is the last weekend of the Bundesliga and My numbers kind of look terrible compared to the markets because there's a lot of Motivation and in fact, you know a lot of teams have stuff to play for and some don't But yeah, I'm excited to get some more American sports baseball is going to be added You know, they're going to be playing in their home stadiums that are going to be empty so a little bit more of a data set for home advantage without fans and that's exciting and also a Closer proxy for NFL because there will be some travel involved or at least more travel potentially than like the Bundesliga because They're gonna be playing divisional teams So it will be closer But they will be like going from minutes like Minneapolis to Milwaukee is still five hours or whatever like that That's like enough where it's an impactful travel number So it's going to be very interesting and I want to see that data But I'm also just excited to see some baseball because it's been Upsetting like I I'm not awake in time to catch the KBO I like following the KBO because I it's fun to like look at some old MLB players who didn't necessarily succeed in major league baseball haven't success over there and The team names are fun and stuff like that, but it'll be nice to have major league baseball back to you Yeah, I mean, I'm not such a data nerd that I'm only interested in the home home field without fans But yeah, I think it's gonna be nice to have some baseball back, you know a little disappointed It's only a 60 game season but obviously MLB had their issues in getting this going But it's nice to see that they figured it out and we're they're gonna get At least the 60 game season going. Yeah, and I think it's gonna be awesome It's like it'll be very interesting to see how things play out because there is gonna be a lot of randomness which Sure, I kind of want the chaos So I'm all on board with that. It should be a lot of fun. So we'll be talking baseball I'm sure before we get to the new opening day later in July, but first we got to talk some golf We're gonna have Colin Davion. You can find him on Twitter at ADJ baseline We're gonna discuss the Travelers Championship his takeaways in the opening couple weeks of golf coming off of the COVID-19 Layoff and his favorite bets for this weekend. Make sure you are subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast We are an Apple podcast spotify stitcher the Google Play Store I heart radio I could go on and on if you name that you can probably find us there Make sure you hit us up there, and if you like what Colin has to say, please leave us a rating and review as well Before we bring Colin on though, we got to go back to last week We had Ted Knudsen on to talk about the return of the EPL and and you talked about it too And you and Ted did pretty well at your number. So let's talk about that and I'll talk about Talladega before we get to Colin Covering the past All right, so last week we had Ted Knudsen on you can find him on Twitter at mixed nuts KNUTS and talked a little bit of EPL and Ted liked Southampton against Norwich. They were plus 120 Southampton rolled in that one They won 3-0 and I know that your numbers like them as well So riding high and Southampton there Ted also mentioned Brighton at plus 240 against Arsenal plus 240 for a money line Pretty good. They won that game two to one the final one that Ted had mentioned was Shefty the United at plus 130 against Newcastle. Newcastle won that one But going two to one on picks that were all plus money pretty solid showing by Ted there And I know he was asking for your numbers as well on those numbers to add good confirmation that you were on the same page You had a tough one for Leicester City against Watford You've had some bad luck in the final minutes of matches the past two weeks Leicester City took a 1-0 lead at in the 90th minute and that put you at plus 115 in a good spot But then Watford scored three minutes into stoppage time to tie things back up ended in a draw So all around a good showing for the soccer numbers last week, but couldn't even better if not for again Last minute goals kind of bite me in the butt there Yeah, well and and the thing part of it was like, you know My numbers didn't think Leicester was as good as being like third in the table as well So it was a little bit surprising that you know that yeah that they found value against Watford So yeah overall, I'm not too worried about it and we may get back to Southampton later in the show How are you feeling about your numbers after one week back in the EPL? Because it seemed like things went pretty well based on the way that you and Ted seemed to jive on a lot of those numbers Yeah I mean another game I'll point out, you know My numbers are not as high on Liverpool as the markets were They ended up tying 0-0 with Everton Everton was the better team They had more chances in the second half to win that match They were up 1.4 to 0.9 and expected goals. So Yeah, I like that as well, you know, Liverpool is gonna win the league there there. I think as we record I think they're about to play right now They're gonna wrap up the league and then motivation is gonna be an interesting issue there It's not necessarily how good they are. So keep an eye on that as well Absolutely, but a good opening weekend for the EPL for sure. For NASCAR last week I discussed three long-ish shots that I like to win in Talladega Those guys were Eric Almerola, Clint Boyer and Matt DiBenedetto Almerola and Boyer were 26-1, DiBenedetto was 40-1, Boyer and DiBenedetto wrecked together So that's always good. Boyer was running 6th with two laps left But then he wrecked, took DiBenedetto with him. They finished 25th and 36th. Sweet Almerola also spun in the last lap. So all three of them, we went three for three on spinning in the last lap But Almerola still almost won the race potentially as a result of spinning, but so Ryan Blaney was leading in case you didn't watch he blocked Eric Jones and John Hunter Nemechek were coming on the outside and that slowed Blaney's down, the contact did and That allowed Almerola to get this run. He was coming on the inside of Blaney They were like right in front of the start finish line.  I'm not going to complain about that I can complain because I think he would have won if Stenhouse hadn't done a very Ricky Stenhouse thing and wrecked Almerola, but I'm gonna take it I think it was still a good process, but that was a wild Wild race and a lot of fun. I'd mentioned Nemechek too in the betting guy at a number fire He was 65 to 1 wasn't competitive the entire race and then almost came on the outside and won it But uh, it was fun to have a couple of drivers there in the sweat at the end Even if Almerola couldn't quite get the job done, but a win in reverse would have been Pretty sweet. I would have taken that for sure. Oh, well, maybe next time in Talladega. We'll see For sure All right, so we're gonna bring on Colin Davey now once again, you can find him on Twitter at adj baseline He has done work for SP Nation. He built the live win probability model for the action network We used to work for fantasy labs and good golf data guy And that's why we wanted to have Colin on for this week to preview the traveler's championship We know that things are about to start because we're recording this on Wednesday So we are going to talk some in tournament betting as well an overall process for Colin to get his thoughts Let's bring on Colin now and pick his brain a bit about betting on golf Covering the present Let's bring in Colin Davey now to talk betting on golf Colin. I hear that you have a Super human immune system. So I'm excited to have you on the show today. How you doing? I'm great. Despite Ed's best efforts. I am here and talking with you all Sloan was an interesting visit to Boston this year in retrospect, but of everyone in that group I think I came out kind of the the best So count my blessings. I guess I don't know if it's luck or skill So you you managed to breathe the air of many many people who ended up with COVID and that we know tested positive for COVID And somehow you were you have been just fine. So yeah I feel like I need to be like promoting an elixir or a snake oil or something and as well as this golf knowledge So but I I don't know. I don't have a good explanation for it Okay, so no magical elixir yet We will check back on you though because I think they're clearly the cases are back on the rise There's still a market for this magical elixir. So you've still got a window to profit and I think that We we can revisit that for sure. Yeah, stay tuned to this space. Yes, absolutely So let's dive into some golf here Colin. We've got two events under our belts since the end of the COVID-19 layoff So we got some fresh data and it's the first time we've had fresh data in three months So that's good. The problem is it's eight rounds and that's a pretty small sample So how much value are you putting in what we've seen out of these golfers in these two events? And is it misleading like what are you thinking about these past two events so far? So it's the it's kind of the classic question in golf in general How much do you wait recent versus long term? And it's kind of compounded by like we don't really have a good long term Well, we have an adjusted picture of long term. So when I hear that question How much do you you know wait the past two or three events in general? It's always a question of you know, how do you wait it compared to what right? And from my time kind of building up the golf models at fantasy labs and my own research as well You always have you start with kind of a base assumption of Have some way to calculate someone's, you know, long term Expectation or just kind of like their overall solid form And recent form is always basically an adjustment from that So we have two rounds And yeah, it's not a lot And on top of which it's such a drastic change in timeline and there could have been all sorts of things that have happened It could be new playing conditions and so I Default to kind of a longer term view of all these golfers and so You kind of give it the same weight as you did as though the tour had, you know Been continuing this whole time. So it's some adjustment But the bulk of your evaluation should still be How good all of these golfers were before we all went on hiatus Excellent Collin. Um, tell us a little bit about your approach to that The data that you use because I think it's a little bit different from what other people use sometimes to evaluate golfers Yes, it is And Ed, I don't know if that's an indirect plug for your own models But for those not in the know Ed and I actually have the exact same base algorithm that we use to Rank a lot of our players and teams only differences I did it for golf and Ed does it for basically everything during that golf and We may be biased, but I think it's actually a really really good algorithm To handle definitely jumps in time and if your data is cut off It's really good at kind of picking up right where we left back off so the um, the data itself Is nothing too fancy. It's just basically a record of everyone's all golfers Kind of strokes per round the differences it adjusts for a lot under the hood and it kind of figures out Almost like a more advanced version of strokes gained if this golfer beat this golfer this Tournament by seven strokes, but lost to him by three strokes and other golfers did that and it kind of collides them all together To produce kind of a study state rank order of who is overall best It's kind of similar to strokes gained except it takes into account strength of schedule or quality of field Uh in a lot more sophisticated way that I think produces a lot more kind of stable rankings of players I like it a little bit better than Strokes gained for a lot of reasons one strokes gain has a lot of gaps in the data Especially in tours like web or events like web.com and european tour where they don't have shot link data And you have holes in the data And the adjustments that you're able to make from you know, strength of schedule and quality competition Are a lot more predictive than any Kind of granular adjustments you might get from things like strokes gain tea to green strokes gain punting stroke stroke Ends off the tea They don't really have a good strength of field adjustment to them So keeping on that same subject Do you think that that better positions you to have a good read on Golfers who may have like excelled during the swing season like looking at these younger golfers like Collin Mora Kawa, Victor Hovland These golfers who did really well. Maybe when the fields weren't as strong Do you feel more confident in your evaluation of those golfers given that that's the way You are judging them is is relative to field strength Absolutely I think you get a lot of cases where people will rattle off top five top tens top 20s as a predictive stat and it's a good shorthand, but It's kind of an incomplete stat Um, why not include european tours? Well as well as that I mean that's one of the biggest challenges is what these european golfers when they move to and from the different tours How do you evaluate, you know 47th at the sony in hawai versus a fifth at something like the the south africa to shawani open Like it's not the same caliber of field. You need a way to kind of have a rosetta stone translate between the two Um, and I think that approach kind of Once you can adjust for those quality of fields you get a much better overall picture for those golfers Interesting. I think that's definitely necessary Especially for majors when we have a lot of that movement guys went over from the european tour and stuff like that So definitely I think a smart way to approach that. Let's go back here to talking about the end of the covid 19 layoff We mentioned that we're mostly buying in too longer term form Had there been any specific golfers who have stood out to you as being wildly different from where they were before the covid 19 Layoff whether it be for a good or batteries in this mate. There may be no one But is there anyone who stood out to you? Well, I don't think this discussion is complete without Mentioning brazen to shambo in the roughly 95 pounds Put on during the layoff um, I'm actually the first to admit that Uh, when looking at numbers alone Data will not capture drastic changes that people have undergone like in those layoffs Um, I think my default assumption is whatever the golfers were before the layoff They were after the layoff and you're going to find exceptions to that that are backed up by qualitative and quantitative data Because golf is such a small sample size sport to begin with I think you start from a stronger position Assuming that any drastic changes are probably small sample and not statistically significant If you want to make any kind of you know actionable decisions off of changes that you do see Is probably best backed up by qualitative backing either you know that they've made changes You know that there's something physically different with them I'm the first to admit though that that is outside of the realm of data alone Yeah, well 95 pounds does seem like adjustment. I it's not 95.  He's my trout with a golf club. Yes, exactly. Well, I could be good I guess I think Um, call. Let's talk a little bit about golfers and their matches with courses How do you fit a golfer with the course and does that change your model and where they're expected to play? So there are a lot of different approaches to finding course fit As as a concept, I do believe that different golfers and different types of golfers do better or worse in certain types of courses and so my approach at a high level is um kind of come up with a model for based off of golfers generic stats How well you'd expect them to do overall if someone's shooting, you know An average of 69 strokes per round and you don't know what their strengths are All else being equal you expect them to do better than someone who's true 71 without knowing what their strengths and weaknesses are So once you have kind of some base expectation of how golfers will do in general based off of their high level stats What you can do is Figure out on a course by course basis. What type of golfers? Uh, given their descriptive stats things like driving distance accuracy scrambling ability putting ability What golfers have overachieved or underachieved those base expectations on a course by course basis? Uh, you can do that with the any kind of method you want I like something as a simple regression model to show which stats Show over and under performance on each course course by course basis and you can kind of get at least a directional idea Of what types of golfers will do better or worse than each particular course So when you go through that process for tpc river highlands, which is where the travelers championship is this weekend Does it lead you to a certain archetype that you expect to do better than usual at a course like that? Yeah, river highlands actually has a pretty clear archetype in my mind One of the weaker fits is uh, I think it promotes accuracy over distance It's not a bomber's course. You have things like driving accuracy in greens and regulation Having a slight boost to certain types of golfers, but I think the more interesting fit Is bad putters do better at river highlands interesting Okay, and that's a weird one to wrap your mind around but if you walk through it a little bit It does kind of make sense. I do believe in the abstract that um, let's take a A golf course where putting is literally has randomness everywhere Let's say there are land mines and they blow up every seventh ball or something like that Um, if your bread and butter is making is doing, you know making long putts and putting well If there's just randomness spewed across all of those putting surfaces your advantage is neutralized And so the way that's reflected in data is if your good putter and your advantage is neutralized Then bad putters do better than they would otherwise So conceptually it's not that hard to imagine is for as far as something more practical Maybe the greens are so fast that they're all putting on glaciers And so the ability to read greens and kind of make those my note adjustments Is neutralized by the fact that it's just such a fast course. It's tough to capitalize on that edge So, uh bad putters far and away have I think the biggest advantage to their opponents At discourse than they would any other course as someone who has talked myself into losing a lot of money in daily fantasy on guys Like Joel Damon and other bad putters that is just music to my ears. It makes me very happy to hear that This is a green light weekend for you, Jim We're feeling good. That is for sure. So Colin, we're talking to here Wednesday afternoons There's not a ton of time before the tournament, but I do want to talk about the full tournament here first Before we look at live golf or live betting with golfing Any golfers stand out to you as being undervalued based on the current odds over at fangirls sportsbook Yeah, and a lot of it is based on what these golfers were doing before that, you know, all this layoff hit All these layoffs hit and a lot of them are not necessarily household names yet If you want some Spicier takes, uh, I believe that Colin Moore, Cabo and Xander Schoffley are top five golfers in the world right now There I tend to like younger players who they just uh, if people show really good form at a younger age Before they're basically 26. You can count on them Having a lot of like growth and upside baked into their process because players do generally improve like from 22 to 26 And you kind of can and you can anticipate that they will get better with a little bit more seasoning Um, I think the results they've shown to date Um put them right up there with worry right there with Justin Thomas like right that right up there with Bryson And it's easy to forget that they're putting up really good results before all the stuff hit um On for a couple more names that kind of fit the profile similarly Victor Hovland who did win the Puerto Rico, which is you know based admittedly kind of a jv tournament that used to be web.com Um, but he did it in enough convincing fashion and beat some pretty good names that he's showing enough upside Uh, as well as one name that has not got a lot of buzz yet scottie shuffler I think he's just as much of uh, some of these young guns that kind of show the same upside And he's young enough that I think you can bake in some improvement where he is due For a good showing any one of these days And I think that the that it's interesting to hear you name those specifically the three younger guys outside of zander because What do they all struggle with it's the short game for a lot of those guys I think it's it's interesting that you are gravitating that direction Sheffler 75 to 1 while you are talking more a cow moved from 40 to 39 So someone may be in on this stream and is listening to you give out these picks So just be aware of that as we're going through here But I think it is interesting to hear the guys who struggle with the short game being the ones you're focusing on here Because it lines up to what you were saying before Yeah, absolutely. And like I said, this is a green light for bad putters. And if that's one of the weaknesses, I think it'll be Uh, severely diminished this weekend Excellent, um What are your thoughts about internment betting? Is that something that you do? Uh, what are the differences between internment betting and pre tournament betting? I mean like any in-game betting It's a live adjustment of your priors going into the tournament versus what has happened in the tournament And if there's ever a place to introduce even more randomness and adjustment uh in golf It is in tournament versus uh pre tournament. So I don't think that I necessarily have the expertise to touch that Uh, um, especially considering staggered t times weather effects. There's just a lot to process on the fly And I think there is you know, value to be found in internment betting Um, I don't think that the live data necessarily supports it from a pure data angle But there are definitely people who know how to you know, make qualitative decisions on the fly Adjusting from that kind of priors. Um and kind of capitalize accordingly. I just don't think that you know data Our pure data is uh, you know a good enough approach to do that profitably So what are the resources you lean on then uh when you're trying to make those assumptions? Are there certain places you will go to try to get uh any qualitative data? You can get at least or are you trying to watch the tournament yourself to get that that that qualitative aspect of it? Or how are you uh going about it? What resources do you lean on most? Um for that qualitative stuff It's mostly people who are closer to the game whether people who either watch a lot of it People who know some of those players on tour or have some kind of experience It's uh, I think a good way to test hypotheses of your own Um, you know always approach not don't necessarily go in with the narratives that you're looking to prove already You should have some inkling of you know, I think this is an angle. I think this is something to look at Uh, and you know, that should be either confirmed or denied or should at least align with someone who has seen something similar Um from a completely different angle So you're leaning more on people rather than numbers when it comes to live betting. Is that a correct? Uh takeaway from that or yeah, I I mean, I think your number has always found your first foundation Sure, and then like any adjustments from that, you know should be Validated by you know people basically Okay, perfect. That is Colin Davey. Uh, Colin I want to thank you for swinging by chatting some golf with us and Hopefully at some point spreading your magical elixir for avoiding, uh, terrible diseases Appreciate it. Uh, good luck with this weekend. Hopefully you can talk to you again soon. Sounds good. Thanks for having me on All right. Thank you very much Covering the future One final thank you to Colin Davey for swinging by and breaking down the travelers championship and ed Uh, it was cool to hear him talk about how he uses a similar approach to his models as you do for yours That's always fun when when things align like that I know I probably should should have killed the kid a couple years ago So he stopped applying all my stationary distribution of markov chain methods to uh to other sports, but uh No, it's definitely a good thing. He forgot to mention. He implied at first the tennis I think before he ever got into the golf. So he's got some tennis numbers Um, I think he's still running those Yeah, and I think the baseline in his twitter account or first the tennis too. So They don't have to get him on for some tennis. We can have like a whale capper Uh, you know whale capper collin davy crossover type episodes or something like that If tennis ever comes back if novak jokovic stops doing weird things like we can eventually get back to that. So, uh I mean that it is really funny that the two sports most amenable to social distancing like golf tennis are like So slow and coming back. Yeah. I mean like Golfs had this weird uptick. There was a time on wednesday where it Kind of looked like they were going to cancel the travelers Um, apparently that's not happening, which is a good thing But regardless it was uh, it was a weird time. So I don't know it's it's grim uh for The prospects of stuff in the fall. It's a little bit scary as things come back with all the this increase in cases. So You know, yeah, we'll see Yeah All right, uh, before we dive into covering the future Fandall sportsbook is giving you a chance to get in on the action risk-free Create a fandall sportsbook account today and place your first bet If you lose you will receive a refund of up to $500 in site credit It is that easy for more details visit sportsbook dot fandall dot com Offer valid for new users only must be 21 years old gambling problem. Call 1 800 gambler Let's take a look at covering the future ed. You want to talk some more e pl for this week What are your numbers saying about uh, this week's set of matches? Yeah, I think the idea here is that you're looking for teams that are much better than expected goals And they are in the table. So what I do is I take the data fb rough, uh, which is my new favorite website in the entire world And I take the expected goals in each game I adjust for strength schedule and then I'm able to rank teams and then The rankings on offense and defense also give me a set of win probabilities Which can go check out at the power rank dot com slash predictions And ted newtson talked last week about south ampton. Uh, the numbers definitely supported that Digging a little bit deeper. They are 14th in the table. So not particularly good But they're actually as high as seventh when you look at expected goals adjusted for schedule And, you know, normally, uh, I would never just say, hey, you know, it looks like there's value on south ampton Just because my numbers Say that, um, but I'm definitely going to lean on what ted said last week You know, someone who watches a lot of games and knows the sport a lot better than I do Like we mentioned they did deliver last week Midweek, uh, they do have a match against arsenal. Uh, my my predictions are up It says south ampton has a 42.5 chance to win which suggests some value at plus 155 And then, um, so so just the team to follow as well They have a match against watford this weekend. I have not posted the predictions yet on my site But it certainly does look like, uh They will suggest some value on south ampton. So, um All the premier league predictions will be up at the power rank dot com slash predictions Does it feel good to have like fresh data going up on the site once again? Yes, it's it's almost really weird to to not be updating things and, um, you know, right now like You know with all my football stuff like I've been doing it for so long that I just I I type update into my computer and it just gets everything going and I've had a chance to automate everything So much with the soccer stuff, but it's still nice to look at things and um, and uh, yeah Just taking a new information for a sport. I really do like and that feels pretty good. All right I like that says that south ampton once again hide ads numbers, uh for this weekend in nascar There are actually two nascar cup series races at pokeno And the odds are up at fandals sportsbook for the first one And I have two bets that I like a lot based on those numbers. The first one is ryan blaney He is now 13 to 1 to win at fandals sportsbook and he did just win on monday in taladega and taladega and pokeno Super different tracks. So it doesn't matter that ryan blaney won there But he's been running well everywhere else recently too. So I want to buy into him at 13 to 1 blaney Six top five finishes in the past seven races in the lone race where he didn't get a top five He led six elapsed and then wrecked while running second So good in all each of the past seven races with at least some shot to win The top fives have come at one and a half mile tracks a short track a super speedway So the track type does not matter. He is just running crazy well right now and He is a past winner in pokeno. He won here in 2017 back when he was still with wood brothers racing His best finish since then is sixth But he is in the middle of a career year is age 26 season Which is a very productive season for you know, kind of like what colin was talking about where you want to find guys Who are productive and ahead of their aging curves ryan blaney is that and the form is really good here Right now ryan blaney is second in my model behind kevin harvick harvick is plus 550 while blaney is 13 to 1 So I think blaney is a tremendous bet. I also have a future bet on him, which we had talked about on covering the future He was 28 to 1 to win the championship. He's now down to 10 to 1 So feeling good about the the championship bet on blaney as well for a longer shot of pokeno I love tyler retic at 65 to 1 retic is a rookie So this will be his first cup series race in pokeno but he did finish second tier in the xfinity series last year and The car he is currently in ran well on this track last year That was daniel hemric who was running the eight car last year and hemric finished seventh in the second race here last year He was 13th in the first race two of his better finishes for the entire year And retic has taken that car to a new level this year So we could expect him to potentially push for a top five type run this week He had a fourth place average running position in homestead two weeks ago That is like the prototypical tyler retic track and pokeno is not that But it shows that he and his equipment do have upside I think that that's least intriguing when his odds are 65 to 1 so retic a longer shot at 65 to 1 I do like that quite a bit But i think that blaney is my preferred bet between the two 13 to 1 he actually opened at 11 So maybe you can potentially like hold off on blaney even and maybe get him out of a better number But I think even at a if you go back to 11 to 1 he'd still be an advantageous bet in my mind Adam kind of sad that the the run of nascar is Coming to an end because we're going to have other sports to bet and like I've had a lot of fun having a legitimate excuse to just keep talking nascar on here So they actually kind of said that we'll have other stuff that I can shoehorn into covering the future Well, it doesn't mean you got to stop. So this is true. We'll get into baseball a little bit, which will be excellent But You know, I mean, I don't know. I might be talking about soccer for a while. We'll see Hey, I mean we have champions league coming back in uh in early august They're gonna finish that up And then I don't know when they're planning on starting the fall leagues, but Yeah, I think wasn't the mls planning on being in Orlando too Like along with the fba. I don't remember. Yeah, I can't remember either, but that might be Do this as well, but uh regardless It's been fun to have uh some nascar talk here on covering the spread and maybe we'll get to keep doing that Going forward that is all that we have for today though And anything you want to plug over at the football analytics show or over at the power rank Yeah, the power rank, please sign up for my free email newsletter. Uh when we do start getting closer to the nfl seasons I'll start posting some of my best predictions Up there. So definitely don't miss out on that and then uh, I also wanted I did an episode about what the probability of football and uh, so someone tweeted me about it last week and was like You know your guest mentioned that the numbers in the us are going down. What was he talking about? I was like, huh, that's interesting. So I went to the johns hopkins site and and looked at their data And uh, sadly we had we had recorded that on june 10th, which was the bottom of uh, Basically the minimum of the daily new cases in the united states. Yeah, it has sadly gone up since then And um, yeah, it's a worrisome trend. Uh, there's a there's a lot of things to worry about for the american sports fan The the situation in florida is really bad and that's exactly where the mba wanted to finish their season You know dr. Anthony fasci said that the nfl should do what the mba is doing and play You know quarantine the entire league in one location He doesn't have the power to actually make that happen and I don't think the nfl is going to listen to him at all I think they're gonna they're gonna try their best to pray and I think they're gonna be able to do it But anyways, there's just a lot of cautionary tales out there, you know continuing number of cases in the college football ranks um, so Not the best time, you know, I feel like we've gone through like ups and ups and downs with this. Oh, yeah 100% Yeah, uh, like every day when I look at the new numbers It's been it was concerning when the numbers had plateaued and were no longer going down And then it was like uh-oh a little slide to hiccup and then it's like uh-oh and then it's like uh-oh like just increasing magnitudes of frightening as the case numbers have gone back up because It kind of seems like there's no You know putting the toothpaste back in the tube because people probably aren't going to like lock down again Like I did the first time and the cases are almost as bad as they were back then Yeah, I mean, I think the states have talked about that's the last resort to lock down again Yeah, um, but obviously no one wants to do that Which is why you know in michigan's has been great, you know I think the governor has done a really good job following the science and And waiting for a lot of metrics before opening up the state and that was definitely frustrating for a while Because you know, we couldn't get back out But now finally we're getting to the point where we can but You know, we get about yeah 100 200 cases a day new cases a day in michigan That's been I think one of the best states in america But to kind of put it in perspective that's about the same number that new cases that germany gets every day And they have about eight times the population of michigan so They're really doing things right over there uh in europe and uh, I just You know, I I hope the us kind of Goes in that direction and and so we can get our sports back this fall I know a lot of you listening are very smart So I trust that you are wearing masks, but if you're not please do they help a lot Uh, I trust I trust all of you our loyal listeners to wear masks So hopefully you are uh because that does help out a lot And that's why like in new york and the same thing We've had many of the open up some things back up because cases have been down because people are wearing masks So for those of you who have done so thank you and please keep on doing it That is all that we have for this week Make sure you check out ed's work the power rank.com checking out on twitter at the power rank as well I am at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s You can follow the fan dual podcast network at fan dual podcast big Thank you once again to our guest collin davie Make sure you follow him on twitter at adj baseline to check out all of his work there Thank you to cow and theobald our video producer from the video side of things here today Thank you cow as always and of course Thank you to those of you who tuned in for it today to check out covering the spread We appreciate all you. 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What's going on everybody? Got Kyle and Sean here relating sports cars are up in 2023 tier one baseball 12 box case number 11 Number 11 pick your team style. I've got Andres a with the Giants This one is Angelo C with the white socks Brent C has the a's and Cardinals Charlie C has the Pirates Christopher E with the Brewers Don L has the Nationals got Eric C with the Orioles Francis M with the Yankees and Phillies Gregory has the Greg M has the D-backs Astros Mets Rangers Jeffrey H has the Rockies We've got John M with the Reds Leslie G has the Dodgers Matthew S has the Red Sox Padres Michael C has the Angels Mike a has the Braves Robert P has the Cubs and Royals Seth K has the Tigers and Rays Shane C with the Mariners Steve B has the Marlins got Swaggy G with the Guardians and Timothy M with the Twins and Blue Jays Twins and Blue Jays. What's up, Dan? What's going on, sir? The order goes on it. We have a break schedule. We break in order There's the break schedule on the website. We go in order of the schedule. All right guys next one coming up still has 14 to go All right, good luck here guys tier one case number 11 Let's go. Good luck here guys case number 11 13 to go number 12 breaking next Yeah, right remarks. I'm in I'm definitely in for now. So I was saying earlier trying to get a knob or a bat barrel here That is the goal ours. That is the goal box one Each your own Marlins, let's go. Oh, yeah You get new six series That's one from in there Got to Sean Sylvia six serious knife though. All right. First up. We got a legends relic the 200 gonna be a Nolan Ryan For the Rangers Rangers Nolan Ryan This one is another relic rookie relic Chris Morell for the Cubs For the Cubs on the game use relic 400 Got an auto of Brian De La Cruz number to 299 that'll be Marlins on the on-card auto Brian at De La Cruz and Esther a Ruiz the 299 rookie for the A's This one there A's getting something going on early 13 to go in the next one guys breaking right after this Let's get it filled up I think is in the chat. I don't know where Mars. We got like a small box. I'm right now only like 10 of them I don't know what the Might have to though Might have to though. I don't know. I just saw the one I don't know Say radio is the rain of 400 that's true for the rays on the Jersey This one is CJ Abrams on the bat relic number to 400 game used for the Nationals I'm selling the trash list on Jose Kwayas to 299 rookie for the Royals Royals Yeah, I'd buy it To 149 got Edgar Martinez fit the whole top ten on there. Hell. Yeah Edgar Martinez nice one there Mariners guard of 149 really Trash list up a knife Like it thank you Stephen taking the blue jays and number 13 13 Jonathan India on the game use route to 400 reds This one is Jose Ramirez on the other Jose Miranda. Sorry auto to 299 twins Twins one there Jose Miranda and this is gonna be a rod of 49 for the Mariners Mariners a rod on the on-card auto Nice one there good old a rod to 49 I start Mariners Edgar and a rod Really 400 got Tony Gonsolin take that a rod was nasty at football to do Gonsolin. Oh, I'm not surprised. Yeah QB big time. Yeah, there's Jason Alexander rookie to 299 for the brew crew Jason Alexander And Dale Murphy on these silver ink number to ten nice one there braves Nice a low number Dale Murphy on the silver ink start their braves as well 13 to go guys on the next one all teams on sale for the rest of these tier one breaks tonight Check them out 13 to go in number 12 here we go Shane We go Shane Come on that barrel that knob. Let's see it say rainy Johnson and 99 for the Yankees Yankees on the big unit Interesting Tristan Mackenzie that one's gonna be to 299 second you're out of for the Guardians Tristan Mackenzie Robin yeltsin 149 Yelp Dracula their tier one talent for the brew crew Brew crew on the nice on-card auto Yelty box six Hey guys check the link in the chat. I want to get you to case number 12 not 13 to go all teams on sale Josh Donaldson gonna be for the Yankees the 400 on the game use relic God Josh Smith to 299 rookie for the Rangers Rangers A little bit of time got in the got in the field there for the Rangers when the Dolis went out This one there The Rangers rookie and this one's gonna be Barry Larkin Barry Larkin a 149 for the Reds He's always got a nice clean auto Barry there box number seven Louis Severino Yankees number to 400 on the game use relic Severino We've got a Dolis Garcia. Just talking about him to 49 for the Rangers That'll definitely happen in this one in this product Steve definitely a lot of a Lot of veterans 249 And this one's a rookie auto 299 Tristan Casas Yeah, it's weird mark seeing even seeing him for that is weird Yeah, I know Harrison click the link in the chat click the link in the chat Number 12 number 12 Casas Eight Click that link in the chat we'll get you there Wade Boggs on the relic for the race the 400 chicken man chicken man Got a blime mattress the 299 rookie there for the Astros 299 And Rangers we got the World Series MVP to 149 Corey Seeger Nice one there Rangers getting a auto of the World Series MVP a nice one there Seeger six of 149 box nine is Blake Snell the 400 on the game use Jersey Buddy Kennedy on the nice one there rookie to 10 Silver ink auto for the D-backs Like the silver ink I was four out of ten and Kerry carpenter 299 rookie for the Tigers Kerry carpenter Hey, I still 13 to go on the next one number 12 Another case of tier one going Jose out to vei on the bat relic to 400 to vei Got Joey window on the auto 249 tier one talent for the Marlins former ray with the the no gloves Joey no gloves 249 and Justin steel gonna be rookie to 299 for the Cubs Dang near a NL si young this year nice one there on the steel. Love Texas. It's up Texas. How we doing today? Can't complain over here man Football soon ripping some tier one good to go box 11 Waiting for ya tunnel talk Box number 11. This one is Tom Glavin number to 400 on the game use relic braves Tom Glavin God use the LDS on the rookie to 299 for the O's You snail DS On Christmas decor That'll happen my man. That'll happen. No worries This one is Frank Howard Frank Howard for Washington the Washington senators As they throw back there that one is to 249. Let me make sure I know that's probably not the Nationals since the Expos became the Nationals. Oh, it is Nationals Yep, still goes to the Nationals still goes to the Nationals That's a rangers cart rangers How's that rangers the renautical here? Check the checklist around me until Rangers. I I believe you guys. I just gotta check Check list just says senators Yeah, it is in the Rangers set. All right Rangers to 249 Rangers and on the back to 249 got rookie Otto Corbin Carroll. I don't work I Don't work nice one there on the rookie Otto Corbin to 249. There we go d-backs We go d-backs. I got you guys appreciate it Appreciate it. No right guys still 13 to go in the next one very nice one there d-backs on that Corbin Appreciate y'all. Good luck here last one number 12 say Robbie rates 400. I'll go to the Mariners Mariners on the Robbie rate We've got Nate Eaton on the rookie to 25 gold ink eat eat in there for the For the Royals Royals Thank You Teddy taking the Padres in the next one Andrew taking UNC in our Bowman case and Mike taking two in Bowman Appreciate you guys 12 to go in the next one now 12 to go 25 And Walker Bueller on the Otto to 149 Walker butane we got five of them today mark. We got five cases of tier one We'll get some fire. We'll get a bat barrel bat knob something going. Alrighty guys Do a quick hit recap 400 we had relic Robbie Ray Tom Blavin out to vey Snell Wade Boggs Severino There's Josh Donaldson to 99 Randy Johnson and Tony Gonsolin to 400 Had Jonathan India Abrams Randy Morel and 200 Nolan Ryan got your mark. Yeah, I don't I don't know much about the old old school ones man There's mark Bueller mark Bueller Walker Walker Bueller to 149 eat into 25. There's Corbyn Carolus who 49 Frank Howard that's going to the Rangers Diaz to 299 steal the 299 Joey Wendell to 49 and Kerry carpenter To 10 we had rookie out of buddy Kennedy Corey seager to 149 blime address Dolis had Tristan Casas rookie Barry Larkin Josh Smith McKenzie Robin younce and to 10 Dale Murphy Jason Alexander rookie had a rod to 49 Miranda Eger Martinez Q us Rivas Ruiz and Brian de la Cruz All righty there guys that'll do it for um case number 11 tier 112 box case number 11 number 12 going next


who's watched this channel for more than a few months knows that I've done several videos on this particular lie and it seems that no matter how many times it's been debunked, they still just keep trotting it out. After that now infamous protest over public statutes, President Trump held a press conference where he tried to describe the event as being between two groups of people, the extremists and the people he described as very fine people. He explained that there was violent groups there on the left and the right being Antifa, BLM, the neo-Nazis, and white nationalists. Then he explained that there was another group of people there, both left and right, who were just normal people there to protest either the removal of the statues or keeping the statues. He described those people as very fine people and then condemned the neo-Nazis and white nationalists. You had some very bad people in that group but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group that were there to protest, the taking down to them a very, very important statue.  Look, I mean, he's not the most eloquent guy but I've watched the press conference several times and it's very clear what he's saying. The media then chopped up that 17 minute press conference into a 3 second soundbite and used it to completely misrepresent what Trump said. Since then, all the network, all the cable, all the print media has repeated that lie and completely misrepresented the quote. Many have debunked it, not that it even requires debunking because anybody can just go and watch the press conference. I think people that believe Trump called neo-Nazis very fine people just want to believe it and they make a conscious effort not to actually watch the 17 minute Q&A. I know a lot of people have said that that press conference was done later after the controversy sparked, but no, that is the press conference that sparked the controversy. Fast forward to today and Nancy Pelosi's butt hurt after getting destroyed by Trump during the national prayer breakfast.  And they are giving encouragement to people to do things. Just as remember Charlottesville, people were coming down that hill with tiki torches saying the Jews will not replace us, the Jews will not replace us. And what was the president's statement? They're good people on both sides. Really? The Jews will not replace us? They're good people on both sides? Wrong. I just want to point out that it was a reporter from the press corps that teeter up for that and then none of them corrected her afterwards. As screwed up as it is, that's because the press is part of the grift. Not only is she lying about what Trump said, but she's not even referencing the correct event. She's getting two different events mixed up. The douchebags with the tiki torches were a completely separate event from the protest over the statues. Joe Bynes also been out there spreading this lie and he actually got called out for it by a Breitbart reporter once and what do you think the media's response to that was? They framed Biden as defiant and the reporter as the bad guy. It's simply undeniable that Trump never called neo-nazis good people and in fact condemned them. And yet the media just carries on telling this lie over and over because they know repeating it makes it true. That's why I have to keep doing videos on this specific topic. As long as they're gonna lie about it, I'm gonna keep calling it out. And since we're on the topic of the media purposely misrepresenting Trump's words, we saw the same thing during the impeachment hearings when Democrats claim that Trump said that he could do whatever he wanted. Sir, in forming your opinion, did you review these statements from President Trump? But we're fighting all the subpoenas. Then I have an article too where I have the right to do whatever I want as president. I did, and as someone who cares about the Constitution, the second of those in particular struck a kind of horror in me. What they don't show you is that he's talking specifically about Robert Mueller and firing him. The media have dutifully played their part and have been reporting this lie as well. Or help out just today when CNN tweeted out a supposed fact check where they called Trump a liar for saying Comey admitted to leaking. The problem is, CNN's own reporting shows that Comey admitted that he was a leaker. What more do I need to show you? Who out there takes CNN or any of the network and cable news networks seriously at this point?  All I know is that as long as they're telling these lies, I'm gonna do my best to expose them. If you'd like to support me in that mission, please like, share, and subscribe. Please also consider supporting me on Patreon, Subscribestar, or Paypal. For just a dollar a month, you'll get early access to all my videos. 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Did we just pop a random level 3? Broly, of course we pop a random level 3. This might actually kill. Broly is triple S damage after all. How's it going everybody? DatoDoy here, back with another round of Dragon Ball Fighter's Rank Matches. This time we're taking a team of Broly, Super Saiyan Vegeta and Yamcha. To be completely honest, I just felt like playing some Broly. Usually when I do that, I feel the need to pair him with Super Saiyan Vegeta. The assist is just that good. Oh, we got another Super Saiyan Vegeta here. Alright, well let's take him to the corner. See how he likes it over there. Alright, can we get it? We do, nice. And Vegeta assist for good measure. And we drop it also for good measure. Don't even worry about it. Oh, nice vanish there. Okay, early spark. Maybe he's feeling something. Oh, right back in the corner with ya. Okay, we missed that. Let's go ahead and pop the bubble just in case he wants to throw out some beat. Yeah! Oh, what are you... Aw, I was getting hyped up. Dude, the bubble was eating Vegeta's attacks. I did get a question about that. What does the bubble do? It just eats up basic beams and ki blasts. Alright, we got canceling. Safe and sound. Oh, nice use of the beam to cover my Super Dash. I didn't expect that at all. Where are you going? Alright, rolling fresh away. Kid Buu has entered the battle. Man, I don't know how to guard against Kid Buu. I don't know anything. I don't know anything. Okay, one bar. We have Justin. At this point, he could kill us with three bars. He only has two though. Maybe he wants to try his luck. Tell me that wasn't sick. No, I always forget that doesn't connect against smaller characters there. It also might not connect against bigger characters. Let's be completely honest. Overhead, double overhead. Aw, god. Did we just pop a random level three? Broly, of course we pop a random level three. This might actually kill. Broly is triple S damage after all. Nah. Hang on. Hang on. Yes, 9-1-1. I'd like to report a robbery. Yes, I've been robbed. Uh-huh. Of course you can take your time. It's just a video game. I can't believe it, dude. I can't believe it. Your boy got robbed, I think. I'm gonna have to watch that back. Oh no. Oh, Broly. I'm so sorry that had to happen to you, mate. Don't even touch me. Okay. You know me. Okay. Vigina neutral, though. We got that.   We ran it back. We hit it again. All right. He doesn't have sparking.  Yamcha, please catch. Nice. Yamcha always coming in clutch. This is gonna allow Vegeta to do some real crazy stuff. Let's not even save any bar. We don't need it. Let's just get this knocked down. Get this fake out. Dragon rush. Can that kill? Nah, it can't kill. It can't. It can't. It really can't. Oh, beautiful. But if he lets me confirm a DP into sparking, it's over. So he's got to get Vegeta out of here right now. Aw, I'm getting too obvious. I'm getting too obvious. This is called fishing for the DP. He has to. Oh, actually a level one. We'll kill.  Hello, Big Bang. Ah, see you later. Nice. Dude, I don't even know what that was. He should have level one. I don't think that would have killed even if it did connect. That's hard to say, dude.  Speaking of risky. Get out. This is a no fly zone Vegeta. Oh, my God. And get off of me. Oh, no. We got Kappa the Kid Buassist. You never want to get locked down by that. That is a lockdown, dude. Don't down heavy. Oh, he did, but it just didn't work out for him. All right. I understand that we all have our personal space, but all right. Get back in the corner. Pop a Broly. Actually, no. Oh, we armored through it, but it just wasn't enough. Key Blast. Key Blast. Watch the Super Dash. Bait it. Bait it. Bait it. We like to bait things out here and right out in the cell, please. Thank you very much. And I messed that up somehow. That's fine. Dive kick him. Oh, kill him. All right. Go, Vegeta. Something tells me he's not going to want to Super Dash, not in this environment. We've punished everyone so far. Oh, this is not going to kill. But we have the Spirit Ball, the easiest to connect DHC. Are you playing Dragon Ball Fighters and accidentally do a level one way earlier than you should have? Just Spirit Ball, bro. It's that simple. It's cake. If you don't understand DHCs and synergy, just throw Yamcha on that team. What's the big deal? He's good? His assist is great? And this was supposed to be a Broly video, but now I'm advertising Yamcha. Purchase Yamcha DLC, everybody. On the ground, what do we do? Block high. Go low. Block high. Double overhead. We should have blocked high twice. We out, though. We're dead. The Super Dash was really obvious after that. That's coming from me, though. Super Dash is always around the corner, baby. Oh, I can't believe we got crossed up. Oh, nice back dash. He knew I wanted out. He knew I was going to do something risk-k there. Oh, let's go. Matter of fact, let me walk you down into the corner real quick. I accidentally... Oh, God. Oh, God. We got to block. That crossed me up. That was smooth. That was some smooth gameplay. I'll be honest. I didn't even... I didn't think he would reach over me. Oh, okay. Four bars and sparking to our name. We got to back up. That's fine. You know what? We can't let him have assist, right? So this is kind of risky. It was too obvious. Oh, I knew I should have kept the buttons going. That was obvious. That was an obvious one. Okay. If we get one hit, we can convert into sparking and pretty much... Okay, here's a new plan. Everybody's like...  Oh. Guys, come on. Come on.  You can't yell at them in the comments. You got to just feel bad for it. The plan was to spark empty vanish into a full combo just to pick up the kill. And you can see how that did not work out for me. Oh, he thought he was going to keep reflecting, I think. All right. We can still win. It's just going to be really hard. Oh, wow. We get... This is going to get three bars so we can mix up. Wait a minute. Hold your phones, everybody. Oh, fold them too if you got the 2,000 bucks. Let me know if you get that reference. No. Okay, that won't do any damage at all. Oh, we delayed it too much. Beautiful. He's out playing me. And we got him, boys. And we got him. A simple crossover is going to get the job done. Oh, wow. Yo, why is it so intense right now? That was fun, though. That was fun. Rematch? I'll snag one. Why not snag another rematch? Let's get it. Okay, just keep the pressure up. Ooh, I knew he would reflect, but I just missed it. No. No.  The thing is, that wasn't even like a devastating mix up or anything. I just saw the kid boot hit me and I was like, I'm done. My career in this field is over. How was I supposed to block that, dude? All right. Knock me down. Three bars. Does he take the hard knock down? He doesn't. He sparked out. Like him what I'm seeing. Missed that up pretty bad. Low couple of lows. That's fine. Oh, no. Ah, the rolling crush overhead is the one that gets me. Let's go. We in there. Yeah, you would. You would, dude. Ah, grab this man, Broly. Okay, good.  Sorry if I went quiet.  Oh, I almost, I almost barged through it. Can he kill here? Oh, with the assist, it's maybe, oh, that's looking like a kill. One, two. That's death. Oh, Broly, goodbye. That's bad because we're still downsparking. So this is not, this is not as even as it looks technically. Okay. Okay. You know what? We're going to have to, I need all the, I need all the pressure I can get. So you're out. Vegeta. I clicked the buttons I wanted to. I think I dashed too long. Ah, darn it. Darn it, darn it, darn it. Down tech. Oh, don't even try it. That's too fast. Now we playing dragon ball boys. Big mistakes by me. All loan up to it. All loan up to it. Candy beam into level one. Yup. If it works, dude, it works. Yamcha. Is it even possible to get a Yamcha comeback? Ah, with the way I'm playing? That doesn't look, that doesn't look like it's happening. Down tech again. No, we get hit by an overhead. I thought I could, I thought I could block it. Sparking. I don't think he can kill here, but I don't think it really matters. I think he just wants as much damage as possible. Extends it. Drops it. Guard cancel. Oh my God.  Ow, was I not blocking? Okay. That game is a wash. This game we lost so bad. I think it's because I was maybe jumping or I held up back. All right. We got to take our loss and strike. Good game to our opponent. We lose 4,000 points. I don't have that much points in the bank, dude. Oh, okay. Big lag, but that's fine. We're good. Are you kidding me? Oh, the Vegeta assistant. No. I am not going to be blocking for six months and that's because I'm getting hit. That's because I don't want to block, dude. I don't even know what the block button is. MK? Oh, you really tried the reflect, but Yamcha does not allow that. Not here, dude. Get down there with him. Oh, no, no, no, no, no.  Let me out. Let me out, dude. Let's go. Let's go. Oh, no, Vegeta. Oh, Vegeta. Key Blast, Key Blast, Key Blast. Go ahead. Super Dash. Technically, what? I can't believe that worked. That was so late, but I will take it. Come here and grab. He knew it was coming. It was pretty obvious. I must admit. Oh, beam. End to vanish. What's he going to do after this? Snap back? We're sliding. He takes sliding. We down tech. We guard cancel. It's not good. Oh, no.  Snag this man. You got to watch out for this Super Dash, dude. I am reflected in this weather. Hell no. I'm not going to take a hit from him. Okay, okay. Okay, back in the corner with you. Put up the bubble. No way that hit me. Did you see me try to down heavy it? Like the cheeky player I am, dude? That would have been sick, though. That would have been so cool. I wonder why it didn't work. Oh, no. Bad vanish. I didn't see the Vegeta assistant till it was too late. That was something else, huh? Oh, no. Okay, he doesn't down heavy me back. He didn't call me back, dude. And I will make him pay for that. This is perfect. That is exactly what you want to see.  Should we try to mix him up? Oh, come on. Why did I get stuck in the mud there? I was really about to put the pressure on. All right. Yes. Oh, EXDP. I didn't even take it into consideration. Let's go. Please hit Yamcha. Oh, no. Yamcha. Oh, that never works. Get off me. Get off me. No, I ain't blocking anything. I don't have to switch. Oh, come on, Vegeta, you got to get better legs. Oh, that was sick. Ooh, ooh, kill him. Oh, what are you doing, dude? Catch him. EXDP again. That's not going to hit, is it? It does. Oh, we're safe. Switch. Finish. Oh, we had no options there except for Super Dash, and you know I wasn't going to get that obvious with it. Overhead by Kid Boo, it hits. Oh, no. Oh, no. Please let me down. Please. Oh, no. I didn't expect to be... Okay, that was cheesy. I don't know what he did to get hit by that, but we'll take it. We'll take it. We'll take it. We'll take it. Oh, we knew that was going to happen. Oh, we knew that was... I can't believe that almost worked. Oh, that wasn't supposed to be a... Oh, we had him too. I got too cocky. That wasn't supposed to be a reflect. Okay. What am I doing? Okay. Okay. Okay, we end it. We end it. We take the win. Well, hopefully you guys enjoyed this very intense ending to this rank match. If you did, let me know your favorite moment down below in the comment section while you're down there. If you like these videos and like the channel, make sure to hit the like button and subscribe. Helps you keep up to date on all things fighting games, including Dragon Ball Fighter Season 2, which we will cover as more information gets revealed. Other than that, though, thank you so much for watching this video, and I will see you in the next one. 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Okay Balash, you had a win today, tell us something about it. I'm really happy with this win because today the first-fold team has a tough match but other than that I wanted to use this line for 10 years and today I got an opportunity and I use it finally. Right, you've kept this a secret all that time, this line. Well, once I used it but it didn't make it into the database and it was only a draw so I don't count that one. So you use it once and it's gone forever? Yeah, because once again I took a lot of risk with this line but I saw that Gunai had a tough day yesterday so I thought it's time to take some risk with Black as well. Right, so kick a lady when she's down, is that what you're telling me? Okay, this is the match, what to do? I understand. Sorry for that. Let's have a look at the game. Okay, Gunai Mamatsada has just played the move D5 in this position. How does it develop today? Yes, we got the Chigurin variation of the main line Spanish and I used the ED4-CD4 to get this banana structure which is quite modern treatment in all kinds of Spanish. Spanish is to get some winning chances. D5, 95. I think the best moment to play A4 which is an important plan for White is to do it now because in the game if you could move just one move further... Back here. No, no, further. After D5, 95, takes, takes, A4 it gives him an extra opportunity to play Bishop D7 which I could use but I didn't want to because I tried to stay consistent and it would be it which was my plan. But if she plays A4 before instead of D5 then it's a bit premature because I can play let's say even Rb8 and after D5, Nb4 but you will see that it's really important to have the A file opened. So 95, 95, A4, Rb8 there was this forcing sequence maybe we can just move so okay, F4, sorry. Let's try it too. So 93, Bh4 it's quite a strange way to use the bishop but actually it works. The point is that if White takes, Queen takes back the pawn is hanging on F4 if F5 I have a very strong knight on E5 and let's say Rf1 if White gets one more move let's say Ra3 is a crushing attack but I can just take on A3 and White has nothing better than take on this perpetual. One more point I would like to mention is that after Rf1 here in this analysis sorry, in here. Yes, here. Without the inclusion of A4, Rb8, Abab I could play more for F5 but here it runs into E5 which White could play even without with the E file closed but it's really dangerous because also my rook is a knight to spin so here I would have played Bh3 and the game ends in a draw so Rf1 was played Bg3 I tried to use these weak squares and she played a really nice move here really strong Ng5 but I was surprised that after that she didn't follow up so the point of Ng5 is if let's say 8-6 comes there is F6 and I need to take I will get back here because let's say I take the knight Bg5 I need to play G6 at some point because other than that Qh5 comes but the main point it's a recurring theme that Rf3 actually traps the bishop so this is the point of including A4 because if let's say White plays A4 here I can just play B4 and I'm a piece up and there is no way to get to the bishop Nd7 so 8-6 F6 yes I need to take but then Nf3 and White has great composition so even if she's unfamiliar with this position she will find this F6 because other than that she doesn't play F6 and here I wasn't sure Kg7 computer shows 0-0-0 of course what else but Hungary and Grandmaster what is Grandmaster Tomás Banus lost this with Black so I was like I don't want to go for this so at day 97 but to tell the truth it's a dubious move and I was aware of that but it's really hard to refute it over the board if someone is not prepared so the point is that White needs to start if he wants a winning attack with Nd7 I need to take and now now F6 because if E5 I think I can close the diagonal with F6 so F6 first I cannot I cannot take on F6 because E5 is discovered check so I need to play I think G6 Qg4 important to start with this one Bp5 I think check first or Bg5 doesn't really matter Bg5 and here it's kind of a stalemate situation so Kr8 is the move and here White has not a winning move I don't say winning White can more or less force a draw with Qh6 I take probably with the knight I don't know I take with the knight because if White doesn't force a draw now then I think I can maybe at some point I can even sacrifice Ng4 and I got rid of this pin even at the cost of the piece because let's say Qh4 happens Txf6 I cannot bear this so I play Kg7 and Qh6 or Bx6 perpetual but the catch is instead of Bx8 Qh6 here Kg1 is very close to winning with White because the point is that if White doesn't play Kg1 or doesn't force a draw let's say plays RxA3 with the idea to bring the Rxf3 once again you see this Rxlift then I'm in time to play Bxp5 Bxd4 and Rxd5 and I can get my queen into the defense and of course I want to sacrifice Ng5 so that's why White needs to play Kg1 and if then I play can you move to Kg1? sorry one move yes this if Bd4 there is e5 and Bxg6 and everything so I cannot play Bd4 other than that the Rxlift is threatening and I play B4 and I think Bxp4 is a problem because White gets rid of this defender and ok somehow Black can end up in a pond on a Rook endgame which is probably closer to losing than to than to drawing but I was willing to take this risk because it's already moved 29 so if someone is not prepared it's impossible to find and the idea what I wanted to play for 10 years is let's say White starts with e5 instead in f5 knight yeah here instead of knight f3 which is with W so let's say White starts with e5 Bp5 I think f6 I can take knight f6 that doesn't really bother me so the point is White now goes for Nx87 because if I take then Queen comes with check and f6 and I think it's made more or less so the idea is knight f6 and I'm a whole exchange down but I have really good compensation so I think computer already shows equal plus because the d5 pawn is it's really weak and ok bishop is 7 this bishop is a monster bishop f4 cannot come because I take on b2 so at the very least I game back 1 pawn and already then I'm not doing that badly materially and ok it's all to play for so I was really surprised when she went back to f3 and ok that was the first move by myself rook e8 I'm not sure how good it is because it gave her the opportunity to strike with b4 so I could start with b4 just that first of all there is no rook lift it's rook a3 rook a3 and other than that there is no b4 which she played in a game so I didn't see anything wrong with that I just dismiss it on general grounds that I don't want to give up the c4 square yet ok knight d2, knight d5 so I think I'm already better here rook a8 I don't say I was so happy when she played b4 knight f6 I played because if I take yeah sorry yeah if I take first when I played rook a5 my point was to take and if knight d4 actually knight c6 doesn't really threaten because queen b6 check I have so I can start with bishop e5 but then I realized that she just plays rook b1 regains the pawn and actually it's I have a weak pawn as well so there is weak pawn weak square but maybe my advantage is gone already so I played knight f6 and here there was one more move I didn't expect or didn't understand I thought she would take bc and at last I was planning to take dc5 because actually my pawns could run much easier than her pawns and e4 is weak so probably she needs to sacrifice it somehow with some e5 d2 and then some f6 but I thought I'm doing okay and other than that I could just take on e4 previous move as well and after that f5 pawn is hanging but after bishop g5 I think my position was already close to close to winning yeah yeah so I just played h6 and okay material is equal but okay there is this once again weak pawn weak square very strong bishop queen d2 was normal so that I don't want to show my cards whether I play cbc4 rook c7 so I was waiting for her move to play rook b1 now I close the file and I think here after knight d4 her position is close to close because at least what I consider to be his last chance is her last chance is to play rook a1 instead because here I cannot get to today fast so easily yeah at least she has some activity because okay there is this very bad bishop but also it's not easy to use my bishop either so what happened in the game because yeah bishop d7 to defend rook a1 now but okay she got into the spin with bishop e5 and she needs to defend I decided to once again I think it's even better for me to have the bishop on the long diagonal and she even needs to make a move before knight f3 to be able to play and even though she could force an hand game or middle game with opposite color bishops it was no relief for her because okay it was a curious decision by me queen h4 move 36 because I could play just queen f6 and she had like 1 minute or 30 seconds and of course queen g3 is coming and okay first thing is just to exchange queens but in the few minutes I spent on queen h4 I was actually relying on this you know psychology that she would play queen f2 because I realized that it's completely winning for me if rook f2 bishop d4 wins and after that I don't even need to take the pawn because actually I invade with the rooks and okay we can show the final position rook a2 happened I could just take a pawn but okay I play rook a3 I could even give mate somehow on the king side I win the bishop she resigned here okay thanks very much bye


Diane Schutter, now Senior Vice President of HR, a long time ICANN employee. Diane, how did you first become involved with ICANN? In 2000, very early 2000, Louis Tutan, who was the first general counsel, had brunch with a friend of mine. We used to work together about six years before that. And he asked how I was doing and I had my own business and I had just had one of my larger clients relocate and I was looking for something to replace about 15% of my revenue. And he said, well, do you think she'd come up 10 hours a week and help me set up the office? And I'm still there. Diane, what was it like in those early days? There weren't a lot of people around. At the time that I came on board, there were really only five people. The CEO, the general counsel, and the first policy person who was also the CFO because in those days you had to have three different people as officers in the state of California. And there were only three of them except for the receptionist. So our first policy officer was our CFO at that point. And it was a small suite that we were sub-leasing from USC. That was a USC building in Marina del Rey, right? In Marina del Rey. The early work that was done on this was all done by John Postel's staff. And so when we started up, they continued to do the work on a loan to ICANN until we could get funding. And then as we got funding, we hired people and we sent John Postel's staff back to USC. So Suzanne Wolfe was one of them, John Postel was one of them. There were a couple of other people who did things behind the scenes up at the USC offices. So we started in this small little corner and every time we needed space for quite a long time actually, more than 10 years, USC gave us another little chunk of space somewhere. And that's how we grew and eventually started bringing people on as the funding came in. You mentioned funding. How tight was money? Well, when I started, we had $75,000 in the bank. And part of what I was asked to do was set up a financial system because it was being run off a spreadsheet by Mike Roberts, the first CEO. And the very first thing I was asked to do, I was asked to build the testbed registrars for their very first invoices. But I had no clue what a testbed registrar was. It was like total Greek to me. And that was actually the very first invoices that went out that came in with funding for us came from that. And then as the registries contracts had been executed, we started invoicing them. We operated really the first two years off of four large corporate loans that we were given. And we paid two of them back at the end of the first year and two of them were extended into a second year. And by that point then we had enough funding coming on a regular basis from the registrars and the registries as well as some donations from country codes and the RIRs that we were able to repay those and fund on our own. Were there ever times in those early days where you thought, you know what, we're not going to make it? Not as an organization as a whole. Not make payroll, yes, because the cash flow wasn't steady because of the donation aspect of it and the timing between quarterly registrar billings and every other week payrolls.  In fact my very first international meeting was Melbourne in 2001 and I got on the plane and this man sat down next to me and said are you going to the ICANN meeting because most of the people on the plane appeared to be. And I said yes and he said my name is Bruce Beckwith and I burst out laughing because Bruce was with NSI in those days who was the largest registrar and I said you're going to love this. I'm Diane Shredder. I'm the woman that calls the bugs you about money all the time. I can do that all the way to Australia. So he was very nice. We struck up a friendship right there and then but it was just, you know, to me, he was one of those people I needed to get the checks in from. So aside from money, what were the biggest problems that you were facing? Too much work and not enough people, which, you know, we still face but in those days when you had a very, very small staff, you did everything. I mean, Louis was our webmaster, our general counsel, ran our phone system. You know, I basically ran the meetings, ran HR and ran finance for three or four years all at the same time until we really had enough funding in to kind of go to the next level. That was probably our biggest problem. We had a lot of time just trying to establish legitimacy and being challenged by people that didn't really want to see us succeed because they had their own agendas in the space, whether it be someone like Verisign, who saw us in those days as a big threat or the civil society groups who did not see us as the path they wanted to see taken. People in public forums who were very, very contentious about a lot of the issues in the early days. So there was always this constant criticism in the early days. So it sounds like what you're saying is that the very legitimacy of ICANN wasn't there from day one. It grew. It grew. Absolutely not. And it really took a long time. In some ways, it's still one of those things that we struggle with because we're such a unique organization and have such a unique niche. Going through the transition period, there were definitely people who questioned the legitimacy at that point still, but usually because of their agendas, not because of what ICANN itself was doing. How much of a hassle was it and how much were people scrambling in the context of the very sudden and unexpected death of John Postill? He died before I came, so I don't have as much context about that. The piece that I know in the early days, we did get a lot of people who purported to speak for what John would have done. Oh, John would not have done it that way. Oh, you can't. I know one of the early conversations was when John Crane joined us was about his title because John Postill... John Crane now one of our security people. Correct. John Postill would have carried the CTO title, as I understand it, and they proposed to give that to Crane, and people were like, oh, no, nobody can have that. That would have been John's title. So there was some of that type of talk around John Postill when I came on board, but I don't really know how they dealt with the other question. Was there a point, Diane, or maybe there wasn't? Maybe it was just a gradual sort of thing. Was there a point where you thought the ball's rolling? We now have a funding model figured out. We're bound to grow. Was there such a point? So I think one of the turning points for me in understanding and seeing the future was when Stuart Lynn, who was our second CEO, proposed pretty much out of the blue on his own initiative, that I can do what they called evolution and reform at that time. And that was in 2002. He presented a plan to the community about, okay, we've tried it for a little while and we need to reorganize. And that was when we moved some things like, it went from the DNSO to the GNSO, and it went from being an outside organization to one that was supported in-house, where we really got the basic structure that we're in today. I think the fact that it didn't make us fail as an organization, because when you talk about changing what you're doing, you open the door to people who want to take it apart, right? But instead, it reformed in a way that actually led us down the path we're at today to where we've gotten to. That was one big turning point. But this isn't just a regular startup. This is an organization whose primary role was the organization coordination of the internet's addressing system. Correct. But there were people out there who wanted to see that done differently. And, you know, mostly because they had a commercial interest that they wanted to see succeed. Or, you know, sometimes they had a personal agenda with believing that tech should be done a different way that we were doing the addressing. And I really think that with what Stuart did at that point was a big risk for the organization, because if you open the door and you go out into community consultation to agree upon what your new format should be, it's just as easy to say, no format. You shouldn't be here. But it really did. I think it cemented us through the next period. Shortly after that, when Paul Toomey joined, then he proposed the new funding model that took us from the $3 to $5 million type of a budget, up to $15 and then up to $25. And that's really when we were starting to be able to resource well, to be able to support the work that we were trying to do. How much concern was there internally about the U.S. government specifically and all other governments generally? I don't think it was concern as much as it was trying to have people on both sides understand what an appropriate role would be for them. With governments, they kind of want all or nothing. That's what they're used to. And with a lot of the people involved on either the commercial side or the civil society registrant side of things, they didn't want government interference in it. And so the whole subject of the GAC in their role was pretty contentious with a lot of the various groups in the early stages. The fact that in the bylaws it has the provision about GAC advice needing to be accepted by the board sounded a little bit to people like, well, the government's having it. Governments are used by their very nature. They're used to having the final word. They're used to being the voice. All of a sudden in ICANN, they are a voice, but not the only voice. Correct. Well, in the early days, just writing the GAC communique used to take hours. In Bucharest, the GAC communique went until like 2 in the morning one night because you're having all of these individuals even though it was a much smaller group at that point who have to agree upon what the language and something is like. And that's very unique in the government world. They have the United Nations where they each have a vote, but they don't come out with one document in the end. So to have any group of governments, all of whom have different needs and represent different constituencies, so to speak, come together and issue one statement as something I don't think you see anywhere else. Well, you're hitting on an area that I was wondering about because the multi-stakeholder model is such a weird, funky creature. It's just not well understood by anybody who's not participated in it. What kind of task was it to convey understanding of this unique model to not just governments but everyone else? Well, I really think that we still struggle with that. I think it's something that we take a little bit for granted the people that work with it all the time, not just within ICANN, but within the constituencies about how strange it appears to people outside the world. And I think that I saw a chat passing this morning from some of the conversations at the GAC today where somebody's comment was we need to do a better job of educating some of the newer GAC members on what it is that we really do. You have governments in particular where the people that come to the meetings will change as governments change. You don't necessarily have the same person representing a country for a long period of time. And you may get a minister one time and you may get a lower level person the next time and they may have a complete different understanding of what the multi-stakeholder model is and what you actually can do within it without the consultations that go on. So I think we still struggle a bit with how we explain it clearly from the perspective of the person looking into it because that perspective is very different among the various groups. There are some people who honestly believe we're just here to make the money and then there are a whole lot of people that have a much different... You have the people that have the mission of keeping the internet open and keeping it stable and so you have that tension there, the governments, the control, the money and then the people with really the passion for the... Quite a mission of interest. What was a two-part question? What was the greatest challenge in the early days? You mentioned the funding, perhaps it was that, perhaps it was something else. And fast forward to today and what is the greatest challenge for the organization today? I think in the beginning it was not getting distracted by all of the forces that were really kind of trying to bring us down as an organization and trying to take away any of the legitimacy that we had established because we would get attacked, so to speak, on multiple forces. There were various players in that world who were funding people behind the scenes that weren't obvious. Some of the user groups in the early days had members that had been funded by some of the commercial interests to come and really raise questions from all angles about ICANN and what you're doing. Today, I think it is trying to be too many things to too many people. We only have so many resources. We only have so much bandwidth mentally. So, as we get into this age where things are very, very complex in the world and you just take the data privacy issues alone, that can really absorb a lot of time and resources dealing with that. At the same time, we're looking at people who want the next round of the new GTLDs to come out. We're doing the KSK rollover. You've got all of these various pieces and how do you prioritize it so that your resources are really helping you to get to the best end results? So, what I'm hearing you say is it sounds like sometimes we need to learn how to say no. We need to learn how to say no or we need to learn how to make the participants in the multi-stakeholder model understand that they may have a really good point and a useful point of view, but that isn't something we can necessarily tackle today. Let me ask you, let's talk about you personally. 20 years you've been there. 17. You've been an amazing transition in the organization. Six CEOs. Six CEOs. Why are you still there? The people. That's easily the very first thing and I am never bored. So, anytime I've been at that point where you get a job and you think it's time to get something else because I'm getting a little too comfortable I can't offer me that opportunity because the organization has evolved. And so, I, you know, supported the board for four years. I wanted to change my pace. That was a very challenging role time-wise. You've got board members all over the world. You've got committee meetings at 4 a.m. in the morning where my time and I was getting older and I wanted to come by pace back. So, I looked around and there was an opening in the organization so I stayed with the organization. Every time I've needed to do that I've been lucky enough that there's been something that I can that has fit my needs as well as me fitting the organization's needs. But the real thing is the people. I've met the most fascinating, smart, nice people through this whole process. I've met, you know, I'm a milkman's daughter. My mom worked in retail and I've met the president of Estonia and the president of Uruguay and Bill Clinton. Who thought? I've met people who do this out of passion. I've met people who are multimillionaires because of the businesses that they built around it and there's really not much difference in distinction between them. We're really fairly classless as an organization and that really appeals to me and people have a lot of passion about it for better or for worse sometimes. Let me ask you a softball as Senior VP of HR. Yep. Is the organization as committed to the people as Diane Schroeder herself is? Oh, I absolutely believe it. And I think it's one reason that we continue to be a fairly successful organization people-wise is that even if people don't really understand what we do when they come in, the passion that we have as well as the commitment of the organization to people in general. As we developed over the years as an organization, most of our funding went to our outside work. If you didn't do the outside work well, you didn't need an inside structure. So we didn't build up HR or finance IT. Well, we got to the point where Fadi joined us and we doubled in size in 18 months and we went from about 130 to 260 staff. It broke. It broke that foundation that didn't exist. But Fadi had the foresight to say, okay, I need to give you the resources. And he did. He funded HR, went from four people to I of 15 now. Finance the same, IT the same. By doing that, he showed a commitment to people. Yarn has the same commitment to people. People come first. We try to do what we can to help. I really truly believe we are an ICANN family. And we've been able to keep that feeling no matter how spread out and diverse we are. And it's one of the things that people really focus on. I can't tell you why we've been successful at doing it, but we don't want to lose that aspect of it as we do the work that we have to do and the work changes. I read a magazine or the Clinton administration official who arguably could be considered the father of ICANN. When I post the question to magazine or about what do you see as the greatest risk to ICANN moving forward, he said something to the effect of if ICANN becomes very self-impressed or if it becomes too bureaucratic and too big, what do you think about that? Well, I think that's definitely true. I mean, I feel very much like if we lose the passion, which is what I think you do if you become that type of an organization, I think that you will lose a lot of the committed staff. It's a very hard job. And it's a very hard job at any level that you have. It's very fast-paced. It's very diverse. So you have to be thinking about a lot of aspects at any given time. It's a lot of different agendas coming in and you have to try to balance those. And you have to really be able to see the big picture. And there are people that don't fit well with the organization. They will come in and they will find that it's just not for them. And I admire the fact that sometimes they identify that early enough on and they're lost for a little bit and usually either through mentoring in the department or getting involved with somebody in one of the other departments, they start to see where they fit into the picture. And I hope that will keep us from doing that. We do have to find a way, however, to balance the tremendous pressure to be everything to everybody against limited resources and people who need to have lives, so to speak. It isn't the organization that it was when I joined when you had to do everything 24-7. And I think that we're still struggling how to find that balance. Very good. Diane Schroeder, one of the first employees of ICANN. Thank you very much for taking the time. You're welcome, Brad.