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I'll bring us our opening quick tip this week I was on my Apple watch launched the weather app, and you know, it shows you that little circle It shows the temperature for every hour of the day Tap the middle of that hourly circle to change from the temperature on every hour to temperature and precipitation and then tap it again and you get to Precipitation percentage so you can cycle through those I had no idea More quick tips like this plus your questions answered today here on Mac geek up 991 for Monday, July 17th, 2023 Greetings folks and indeed welcome to Mac geek of the show where you send in your quick tips your questions Your cool stuff found to feedback at Mac geek up comm we share those on the show organized loosely into an agenda that hopefully makes a little sense and Really, hopefully allows each and every one of us to learn at least five new things every single time we get together Sponsors for this episode include a new sponsor hop water at HOPWTR.com slash MGG that's where you can go to get 20% off your first purchase Of course BB edit and another sponsor here for today at barebones.com. We'll talk more in depth about those shortly here for now Here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton And here in usually sunny Pensacola, Florida, Florida the birthplace of naval aviation and it's pilot Pete Huh, I know I never think of a first of all greetings pilot Pete. It's good to get to hang out I I never think about Pensacola as like a a naval Head, you know, yeah, but of course it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, it is it is the birthplace of naval aviation And anybody in the area, I highly recommend go visit the naval aviation museum One of the top naval or one of the top aviation museums in the world. They've got some amazing things there So, all right. Yeah, maybe I'll come down or capsule it. Yeah, come down come down and visit and We'll go to the museum and it is reopened to the public. It was closed for a couple years due to covid and a Some semi-terrorist attack and oh man base and yeah, it was really tight security But you could now the public can now get back in so that's a beautiful. Yeah, it makes sense. Yeah, okay Cool, we have more quick tips pilot Pete Do let's uh, I'm gonna change the banner to quick tips and all right. Let's let's attack those things My face is too big. That's not uh, that may actually be true. I don't know but uh, that is the name of The discord member of our macky cub community who shared this tip. He says, uh, here's the epitome of a quick tip I love the epitome of a quick tip since a lot of great mac os tools and apps like the lovely Uh mac os aerial screensaver are hosted on github I frequently find myself wanting to know when new updates are released If you have a github account or if you sign up for a free one It's simple to then sign up for email alerts on these new releases Just go to any given repository for your App or whatever it is you want to watch and click on watch then custom and select releases Voila, you'll start receiving emails about new releases. I love this I um I I mentioned in the in the thread on discord that mac updater is also a great way to keep track of releases and my face is too big Replied saying yes, I run that too But it doesn't always catch the things that are on github and he said so I like to use both I like this this is most interesting because that's what everybody needs though is more email, right You know, I I have I have changed my tune on email And and it really is a result of all of the Um social media algorithms out there the algorithms don't Decide what's in my best interest to get they decide what's best for What would best capture my attention and keep me, you know doom scrolling or whatever, right? I mean I get it like I totally if I ran a social media company. I'd probably do exactly the same thing, right? I get clicks. That's how you and that's how you keep engagements and all of that stuff Um, but like I've I've noticed with things like bands that I follow If I don't sign up for their email list, I don't I I will miss shows that are coming. So like venues that I like to go to bands that I like to follow I sign up on their email list You know, you could sign up for podcasts that you follow For example, you could go to mackeygab.com and sign up for our email list so that you'll know When a new episode's out you also get like all the show notes with clickable links and time stamps and everything Right there in your email box including what we're going to record and you can come join mackeygab.com slash Discord and join us in the chat there and yeah because that's that's when we are most active As we're live chatting together and that sort of thing. So Um, I'm going to take us down one more quick rabbit hole though. Sure because we we did mention email Are you noticing I'm getting things that I've had for years coming to my inbox showing up in my junk mail What has changed in apple mail and we don't have to address it now, but later in the show maybe no no We're here. We're totally fine. Um, this is interesting So I I want to ask a clarifying question before I we dig in here Are you seeing this with? Email accounts that are iCloud hosted or with any email accounts any email accounts. Okay, so it's my personal harm in one Domain is now there's the things that I've gotten for years like But your personal harm in one domain is not hosted at iCloud, correct? It is not. No, it's it's a just host server It's a just host thing. Okay, because we've been getting reports. We talked about a few of them on the show I've heard about quite a few just via email that we haven't yet included in the show But but there and and like my dad was also reporting this allison over At no silicast was reporting this lots of you have been reporting this Yeah, in fact my mac stock ticket on the mac e-gab email wound up in there Yeah What so you you you are the first one? No, I guess actually my dad would have been the first one to identify that this was happening On device not on server. That's what I've been trying to figure out is we've been sort of distilling through this is Is it on device? You know, is it is it iCloud server based spam rules? Or is it the apple mail on your mac or on your iphone based spam? Yeah, me thinks the ladder. Yeah, I think it's on the on the mac. Yeah. Yeah, the evidence is definitely pointing towards the ladder. Yeah Uh, I don't use apples spam filtering and and maybe that's the the answer here because yes lots and lots of you are seeing false positives for spam so things that are being Incorrectly identified as spam and put in your your spam folder or put in your junk folder I guess is the name apple applies to it And I bet more and more of you are experiencing this but are unaware of it and that's even worse Yeah, get in your chunk mailbox now Yeah, yeah, I I um For years, I've used the server based filters that are You know from my mail host whichever mail host that might be for years. It was of course google Most recently and also for years. I've been using fast mail. So I'm using their filters But if I yeah in in mail I go into you know, mail's preferences junk mail and I uncheck the box that says enable junk mail filtering This does not stop my mail host from doing any server based filtering that all still happens I'm just not doing a second layer of it in apple mail And I think it's those two layers that are getting people in trouble Oh, okay. I I really do I like I I don't because it's what's weird about this pete is To our knowledge Apple hasn't changed anything in apple mail like ventura has been out for a while The people that are experiencing this I know Like anecdotally, I know that they all have been on ventura basically since the release day, you know ish, right? So You know when that's why when I first heard about this It is happening sort of widespread I thought oh something on the server changed because we haven't I mean we have we've had Point updates of ventura, but no like, you know major like we're not on sonoma yet And so it's like it's probably not a new engine Turns out maybe it probably is a new engine and apple just didn't say anything about it I don't know right like I don't I don't know I I don't know why I'm speculating as to why but I No longer have to speculate that it's happening And it is not happening to me But as I just mentioned I have junk mail filtering in apple mail The client app disabled and so like that would be my advice for I'm going to start there and if it's overwhelming. I'm I'm ready to Go on to another client like canary mail or something like that Or well, but here's the thing. I think you're better off Finding a mail host that does spam filtering that you're happy with because that way you get it Uh, you know, sort of device device agnostic, right? Your phone gets it just like your mac gets it just like So Yeah, because I have on my server, you know, you get into the various Oh, I forget what it's called, but it's basically the spam, you know, uh, you know I can't think you give it a signs it a number You know what I'm talking about where the the server looks at the email and it signs it a number And above a certain number it's going to throw it into junk mail below a certain number So but getting the heuristic Filter set on that to to determine what is and what isn't obviously is a very complex problem That has challenged the best minds in the computing industry for years It's a cat and mouse game too, right because the people who want to send spam are sending it out So, you know and our our combating that no, so Yeah, like fast mail and I think we I've had this conversation sitting in this chair with this microphone recently And so I think it happened on the show But it might have happened pre-show or post-show or in our hangout that we had on sunday. I can't remember but um Yeah, yeah, I I um I recently reset my fast mail spam filters. I I reached out to support and had them wipe my My teachings I heard you say that but I don't remember where but I did hear you say it But so I did that and I've been retraining it and I check my spam every other day I have it in my calendar and it it really works and it takes me It's way less than a minute to do it when I'm doing it that frequently And was it was that on the business spring? But maybe it might have been on this show too, Pete Like I don't it might have been don't get old. It's bad for your memory folks bad for your memory. I've heard Yeah, I've heard but I can't remember where I've heard that so um So it like but yes, there there. This is a known issue if you are using apple mails Like the client junk mail filters be hyper vigilant As to checking your spam folder because you will you will miss things. I like I guarantee it Almost guarantee it, you know, there you go But well my humble apologies for taking us down that rabbit hole But no, I'm glad you did as soon as we talked about need getting even more mail. I said, oh good.  Yeah, but but that's why I now I'm checking my spam folder more Vigilantly because I want to make sure I really manage that stuff and get what I want and and all of that I will say this and it this is just me Anything I find in my spam folder that is not spam, of course I move it to my inbox and train it that that is the way fast mail and most Mail including apple mail and and and gmail. That's the way to train it. So do that I last quick question. No, no, I'm going to finish my thought. Okay. This is really important So I train the stuff that is not spam to be not spam I do absolutely no training of things that are spam if something makes it to my inbox I delete it and the reason is I know that I'm going to check my spam folder every two days, right It's no big deal for me to hit delete and what I don't want to do is have too many false positives So I opt not to train things as spam I know you feel like I'm beaten. I'm like I'm beating the system if I make sure I train stuff as spam You might be beating your own system I don't know I'm just sharing what I do and what works for me.  Are you now not training that as spam or I mean, obviously you should leave it alone, but No, no, you can delete things again. This really is very dependent on Who your mail host is and how they manage things But most mail hosts do it all the same if something's in your spam folder And you delete it which I do every other day I I go through I pick out the ones that are not spam and I delete the rest to you know Flush the queue and and clean it out for the next time That That act especially with I know with fast mail but but is true with google and and apple as well By deleting something from your spam folder. You are confirming that it is spam Okay, good to know. Yeah. So in that sense. Yes, I am training it I am reinforcing its belief, you know fast mail's belief that this was spam We we thought it was spam. We put it here You left it in spam and then deleted it that confirms that it was spam. So yes in that sense I am training it. So you're good to go there. Okay. I didn't want to defeat a you put it in the mailbox The spam mailbox if I deleted if I just told it, it's not spam. That was my concern Yeah, it's not with fast mail I like and and also not with email and but you know, you gotta It's it's wide open, right? You want to make sure you understand how your chosen mail host does this stuff And it if you're using iCloud mail, that's how it does it Excellent. Okay. Yep. Well rabbit rabbit hole. Oh, look at us. We're out of a rabbit hole I think we should go back to quick tips. Are we Are we out of the rabbit hole for now? I got another one. I'm sure I'm sure you do Uh PC unix in our Discord has a quick tip says I usually click on the text I want to select and slide with my finger to select more. This is talking about on the like ipad or iphone Sometimes little formatting pops up and interferes with that making Seeing where you are Sliding too difficult, you know, if it starts putting up like the little, you know, bold italic things or whatever Says but if you're using a keyboard on your ipad You can revert to the same methods you use on the mac and so With a keyboard on your ipad or of course a keyboard on your mac the things we're about to describe Are ways of selecting text Hold down the shift key and use the arrow keys to select what you want Because then those pop-ups get out of the way on the ipad if you happen to be selecting from the insertion point You can skip tapping and only use shift and arrow keys, right? So if you are navigating through the document with your keyboard And your cursor is at a point where you want to select either forward or back from that Hold down the shift key and select to the right or to the left to go one character at a time Select click the up arrow or down arrow to go one line at a time and you can you can combine these Right so you can say I know I want to select, you know three lines down and four characters over Okay, well you'd hold down the shift key you'd hit down three times and then to the right arrow four times and boom Now you have that all selected and you can do whatever you want with that selection I use this my fingers know this right? I I use this all the time Sometimes to delete things sometimes to cut and move things around Sometimes to you know select text that I want to make bold or italicized or whatever So yeah, it's a good good little tip. So hold down from the insertion point Hold down shift and then use the arrow keys to select text Best thing you can do is go play with it and then try to remember it so that you start using it And then you won't think about it anymore and until until pc unix reminds you of the quick tip Yeah, and and here's the cool thing Play with the option key and the command key because if you use shift option in the arrow key you get a full word What yeah So you get the full word at a time And then if you use the command key you go all the way to the end of the line Wait say this wait, I was I was blown away by the first thing you said so shift Option and then the arrow key gets you one word at a time takes you to the entire word So you don't have to use a letter at a time that sort of thing But if you want to go to the end of the entire line Then hold shift command in the arrow key and it will take you to the end of the line What magic is this right? It's here once we again. It's stuff. I've been using for years Years amazing and oh, yeah, by the way, doesn't everybody know this? I know this That's the interesting thing of the human mind.  Yes. We just do it. We assume other people know that Yeah, of course when we say it out when you say it out loud. It sounds utterly ridiculous Right, you know the the presumption that someone would literally have the same experiential knowledge as you is is ridiculous However, we I I can join the we in saying we make this mistake all the time and this is an assumption. Yeah Fascinating. So but that was yeah, we're just on that way. Oh, yeah option and command keys help Okay, here's what's cool Like and you can accept the entire page from from the middle down by hitting shift command in the down arrow Takes you to the bottom of the page What or the top of the page? Yeah, and and here's the cool thing that I've noticed as I'm playing with this and really screwing up Where I am in our agenda Because that's the document I've been doing this and so this works like in a web doc in a google doc too. Yeah, but um Shift and the up arrow just shift all by itself in the up arrow Goes up to the the you know the previous line or down arrow down to the next line To the insertion point, you know to right above where the insertion point is however Shift and option and the up arrow goes to the beginning of the line above and so I like this man. This is good Pete I think you somehow muted yourself. I think I did I had a dog barking in the background. Sorry And yeah people running in out. So that's all right. That's all right. Oh, this is awesome. All right, cool Oh, I love this stuff. This is this See this is why we do this show right for everyone's benefit. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. It's great Uh, Chicago tom has our final quick tip here, which is uh, I have the sound module Showing in the menu bar. So a little you know the sound icon. Yeah the icon with the speaker He continues if you click on this icon, it allows you to set the sound output to another device Did you know that when you option click on the icon you can quickly reset or change the input device as well I don't know that I knew that pilot Pete, but I do now Yeah, yeah the option key can be your friend folks. It is uh, very much a fun Fun thing. 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I do I switch my gush darn Page and then my mic was still on mute. I thought so. Yeah, we're gonna go to judy's question Um, judy writes in she says she has an m1 2020 macbook pro writing the latest os and an iphone 14 It's also up to date. She inadvertently took a burst photo but managed to save one photo out of the 10 She says as far as I can see it is just one photo, but when I try to import it into photos I get the message That says duplicate burst photos are not supported. I can't find the duplicate It's not in the duplicates folder nor the imports folder She says I really want this photo in photos and i'm using icloud photos now since photo stream was abandoned Any ideas on how to get this photo into my photos? Thank you judy huh, so My first thought is Let's confirm that the photo is already in your library, right? Like I mean it it's saying that it is Is it is it confused that it's saying one of the bursts, but a a different one is there Or is that one from the burst there or is the entirety from the burst there? And it's asking you to maybe go select that with photos on your mac So that would be the first approach is is Why is it telling you what it's telling you? Is it an erroneous thing or is it correct? And if it's correct then that would be a different path because maybe it wants you to Extract the the burst photo, you know from the the group of them that's already on your mac Assuming it's not there um You know the mac has that image capture app that lets you grab things off of Devices that are plugged into it it pictures and movies specifically off of devices that are plugged in and your phone Counts as a device that's plugged in if of course it's a device that's plugged in So what you could do is extract that photo from your phone using image capture and save it like on your desktop And then manually drag it from your desktop into photos. Maybe that would do this. I don't You know, I bullheaded persistence, right? I don't know. Yeah. What about in the other option? Taking it. You know, it's probably not Probably losing a lot by doing this, but I wouldn't say try and take a screen capture Of it and then save it with preview or something like you're probably really losing a lot of Yeah, what is there if you do that? I agree with that. Yeah. I mean it Like I wouldn't that wouldn't be the first that's a last resort. I was the last resort But it would get you there, right? Like I mean depending on depending on what would look good on your iPhone If that's where you want to look if you want to blow it up and print it, you know to a Yeah poster probably not as good, you know, so right right just just a thought Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like it though. I mean I like that idea. It you know, it kind of gets us. Yep. Yep All right, exactly. So hopefully that helps. Yeah. Yeah, and I have I have lost Kentucky engineers question. I got it Oh, you got it. Essentially, he's asking about what does the tab bar do? Show tab bar on the finder Because he he updated and then I lost lost the Plus sign that is normally there even if you only have one tab open in finder That's right. Yeah, that's exactly right and um, if you don't so yeah, it was I was going to approach this a little differently, which is why no, that's why I called it what I called it But but essentially what you described is correct, right? If if the plus sign is not there in the finder it's because There is only one tab showing Or there is only one tab open and no tabs are showing so you can either Make that plus sign along with the tab bar show by Adding a new tab with command t Or you can go to the view menu and choose show tab bar if you enable that Then it will always show you the plus sign even if you only have one tab open but Which is how I do things in the finder I right and I mainly do it that way because I don't like things jumping around When I add another tab and so by having the tab bar there It's not like You know things aren't jumping up and down when I when I add a tab bar It's not shifting everything down or do the same in safari Because I I know I'm going to have tabs open more often than not So also in in safari. I choose view always show tab bar and that way it's just there and I don't have to I don't have to think about it. I'll tell you the one I do Frequently I use all the time is forklift And that's kind of a replacement for finder the advantage of forklift I think finder can probably do it too. The advantage to forklift is that it allows you to FTP as well. So it doesn't have to be a local drive. You can ftp to a server Or from a server All right, so this is interesting to make each other but because you I think of forklift as an ftp client Yes, and and it is as you said, but you backed into that you said you think of forklift more as a finder Replacement I do that allows ftp. Yes that I That's interesting to me because there are a lot of people over the years that have asked us for finder Replacements for a variety of reasons right and we always mentioned one and that's pathfinder, right? I do like pathfinder too, but yeah, I found I use forklift more That's fascinating to me Huh So what do you like as a coming at it from the finder replacement? Angle, what do you like about forklift that that sort of attracts you to that over the finder or even pathfinder? boy, that's That's a 64 thousand dollar question. Dave. It's one of those things that I adopted early into my workflow and I liked it Yeah, you know is that that's not That's not a satisfying answer to a lot of people. I know No, but it makes sense to all of us here what worked for me and yeah It just I found it useful It seems to me one of the things is it's always in columns And I know some people every now and then I'll try to go to a list to you and finder that sort of thing But I really like the column view layout of the mac os and that's one of the first things I really liked when I came over from From windows the the column view with mac os was much better But I forget you're a switcher. It's been a while. In fact, yeah, it's been 17 years. Yeah. Yeah Yeah And because that's the thing we always joke about right was what a hot mess ventura is it's windows It's uh max vista, but oh man Ventura isn't even close to being a mess No, no, no, but it's fun to poke them in the eye over it Yeah, they deserve the eye poking it the comparison is is not accurate. Yes, I agree But yeah, so there's that and it's fair. Yeah, and I think uh, I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure that uh Set set app is where you can get a free as it were copy of um of uh Not pathfinder forklift forklift. Oh interesting. All right Yeah, I I know you okay, so you said you you weren't sure how to answer the question I think you did a great job Because like the idea of columns in the finder is something I loathe I I want to see the detail list view I am a list view guy. Yeah, absolutely Obviously, you can get far more granular with list view you can alphabetize and well I want it by the date it came in or size or anything sure Yeah, um, and and I do use that some on some occasions But more often than not I like the column view just because I find it quicker To to move things around and that's why I like for that's the beauty of personal preference Is it it like what works in your workflow? Sure. What works in your workflow? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, it's fascinating I like it. All right. Thank you for that.  I like it. I like it. That's twice today I know it's great Aaron shares a tip for us. He says uh, Dave as a musician you probably know About the quest for ear protection that doesn't ruin the tone of the sound So, yeah, earplugs the wrong earplugs and to a degree even the best earplugs like I have custom fit musician earplugs They they some they somewhat change the tone of the sound of course and and you know lesser expensive lesser costly earplugs are Sometimes worse, especially like the foam ones. They just cut out all high end. They protect your hearing. Don't get me wrong Um, but he says uh in the 80s We had custom etymotic earplugs that had filters on them 15 db 20 db 25 db I still have my old ones. Yep, and but they all ruined the sound everything was muffled over the years people tried to improve on this well on my keyboard forum People were talking about AirPods pro gen 2 so the current generation of AirPods pro and the adaptive transparency feature It basically tries to keep loud sounds under 85 db And the interesting thing is that you can see the volume reduction right there on your apple watch You can see the volume that is external and the volume that's reaching your ears And he says it can be used as essentially an ear plug He says I tried this with a loud guitar and yes I could see it limiting the volume to peaks of 87 decibels and then bringing it back down to 85 But there's more you can customize this transparency You connect to your AirPods 2 and play a song from any audio app that you have to do that Otherwise, none of these options will show up Once you're playing music through your AirPods 2 on your iphone go to settings Choose your AirPods go to accessibility Go to audio accessibility settings and turn on headphone accommodations Scroll down to the bottom and you will see apply with Phone media and transparency mode make sure you turn transparency mode on so this Enables a custom transparency mode and you can set the amplification to the lowest setting You can adjust the tone darker whatever you like Now when you go put your AirPods 2 on AirPods pro 2 sorry and play with like a band it will limit the sounds It's pretty amazing He says to make sure in ios 16. It's called adaptive transparency in ios 17 It's called loud sound reduction is on because adaptive transparency was not clear enough And I agree with that change. I'm glad apple made that change or is making that change in ios 17 I'm jones in for the latest uh pair of the uh AirPods because of that. Yeah, the some one of the features that looks good is that you can have it in Active noise cancelling and begin speaking and it goes automatically to the transparency mode And then mutes the music that sort of thing the one thing that I find frustrating with the transparency mode is I lose directional Where's that sound coming from? it seems to Give me both the same amount even even with the AirPods pro 2 or no because I haven't tried the pro I think I think they've solved that with the pro 2s to a degree. I you know as I hadn't thought about it until you started talking about it here, but I would presume That this adaptive transparency feature is one that was borrowed from the in development vision pro Ah, yeah, right. Sure, right the whole I'm I'm immersed. I start talking now I'm outside of my environment now. I'm back in my environment like that's definitely a vision pro thing Hadn't thought about it because we were introduced to it in AirPods first before we knew about the vision pro So, yeah, I'm sure of it like of course Yeah, I I bought a pair of AirPods pro gen 2 And they showed up and pretty much between the day I ordered them and the day they showed up Lisa started showing me how her AirPods pro Were like totally foobar and one of them was shot and this that and the other thing and it was like Okay, well here's um Here's AirPods pro gen 2. She's like you didn't have to order these for me. I'm like, I didn't I didn't no I ordered them for me. I love you honey, but I didn't yeah, I ordered them on prime day. It was a year ago Right. I ordered them on prime day and uh, and so I haven't used them. Okay. No, I could be mistaken Then we we may be talking past each other a little bit Dave. I have the latest until WWDC back in June where they announced the next set where oh Do you have those are those out yet? Um, I don't think they announced new ones Pete. I think they announced features for the current ones that are new features then Oh, okay. Yeah, I misunderstood that then because like I that's the one where I was looking forward to The ability to be in in active noise canceling listening to music then start talking and it and it stops your music and goes to transparency I thought that was a new you will you will get that Um, oh very cool in ios 17. Yeah. Yeah, I won't I mean unless I shell out for AirPods pro gen 2 Well, there's that probably well And I gotta tell you and I think I mentioned it on another show I've tried other bluetooth active noise canceling Earbuds and I like them, but the the AirPods are hands down the best of the various that I've tried You know now you're I wish we'd had this conversation two days ago because I'm sure there was a deal I missed during prime day um, I I've been testing new Active noise canceling headphones from both jbl and from poly And I'm really blown away by both of them I I have them teed up for our next cool stuff found episode It would be good if I could compare them to the AirPods pro gen 2 I might have to borrow Lisa's pro gen 2 for a little bit because well one of the things that I find with a lot of them Like I just sold my job roast because you could only listen And use independently like the right side Oh, and you could you could listen to stereo, but you couldn't use the left by itself or vice versa I'm not sure which one it was but it was like that's kind of silly I want to be able to use both independently and that's one of the beauties of the AirPods is you can put one ear in And then when the battery dies put the other the other in the case and go all day long And especially for podcast listening that works great. You have the world around you and And for phone calls to Yep, you've got twice the battery length if you're willing to only have one ear in so exactly exactly so What say we move on to ned? I'm in bring us to ned Well ned said this morning and probably the morning he wrote not this morning But this morning my macbook pro would not connect to the internet using a wireless or wired Another symptom is that all the wallpapers changed to default It does connect to the local network devices like the sonology that nas Sonology WAP. I don't know. I'm missing something wireless access point Ah, there you go. So it connects us to the sonology wireless access point the nas, etc Now my work macbook pro until 12.6.7 Does not have problems. I've shut down and start up rebooted the router and the web and connected to the wired router Any suggestions on what to do next you need a new macbook pro now So yeah, this is a this is a discussion thread in our in our discord group And I'll I'll put a link to that thread because there's some great stuff from from lots of folks I've chimed in a little bit, but it's been discussions been driven by Uh several of you out there bryan maro and and tony have been really helping You know the obvious things to check when you've got a device where it clearly appears to be connected to your local network But can't get on the internet. I've seen this before Starts with did you check your your dns settings? right like make sure that that you're actually able to do dns lookups and You know, you can check that in system settings or system preferences depending on which version of macOS go into network See the dns But really a great way to test it is to open up the terminal and type ping space www.apple.com If it comes up with an ip address even if it doesn't answer That comes up, you know, the dns is working right if it's because it's dns translates from the names to the ip So that's that's one way Another thing that was suggested which is a great advice is check the parental controls To make sure that you don't have something turned on there Do you have a profile from your? You know employer. I realize this isn't your work mac book pro would be weird that your work one works With a work profile and this one doesn't without but make sure that you don't have a profile installed because that's like parental controls just for adults And then You see if there's a vpn running Because anything that can get in the way of your network see if tail scale is running See if little snitch is running right all of those things are going to manipulate the network stack in uh In a way that in theory would be something you want, but it could sort of break that Ned also pointed out that the wallpapers all changed to default that was weird Well, no if he's using apples like you know Wallpapers that download from the internet if they're not able to download from the internet. This is a consistent symptom Oh, yeah, okay. So like I I took it that way like okay, and it could be completely unrelated. It could be Not that but that was kind of my thought um I When ventura prior to ventura you could go and remove any network device You go to system preferences go into network and you could remove a device and re-add it You can't do that in ventura with the wi-fi device anymore, but you can do it with the ethernet device But net is saying that this is happening with both wi-fi and ethernet So while I might be tempted to remove the ethernet device and put it back I'm not convinced That that's going to help because it's happening system-wide It's not when I'm on wi-fi this works when I'm an ethernet it doesn't you know, it's right That would make sense then to remove that device. There's a stuck bit sure it exactly right. There's a stuck. Yeah, I like that um you know so the um I'm still Another way to test for a dns issue is there is the <IP_ADDRESS> dns service that you can use from uh, I believe that's from cloud flare. Yeah You can load <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>.1. Yeah four ones in your web browser And it doesn't require a dns lookup because you're literally loading an ip address. It just happens to be four ones and See if you can load that because that will tell you if you have something blocking the internet That Is not related to dns. So uh, that that would be another good way of of testing that um But that you know, that's kind of I don't you know, these are the if I were there. These are the next things I would try right is to just try and get there You did mention tail scale, but I know for a fact that I when tail scale Goobered me is when I had I had it as an exit node And then I was also trying to run pia vpn at the same time and I was absolutely not on the internet And I don't know, you know, there were two firewalls there Blocking it and then and then somehow somehow in mech system settings security firewall Maybe something in there has been blocked fair. Yeah fair. Yeah Not likely. I mean, it's weird. Oh that came about like this morning. I get up and it's not working Well, wait a minute. Well, what yeah, what changed what changed and why yeah, yeah So So check that. Yeah, you know, those are the those are kind of the things that come to mind and uh And check, you know, yeah check those out. I think you know, so and it's it's on the nodes. I think it's probably uh Brian Monroe that Ned did fix this But I don't recall that it was I don't recall that it was in there Now I don't we don't see the fix in our screen capture of the discord So we'll have to sort of which is why we're just going to move on. It's totally fine. We could do that. Yeah, so Yeah, so take us to manic blogger. Would you be I'm going to do that at this time? So He writes in uh, hey there. I have a number of apple devices The iphone 13 running the latest operating system an older macbook and that it And occasionally it keeps asking me for my wi-fi password. This is very near and dear to a very close friend of mine Which means I have to keep typing in the password. I have just and I just have to repeat it again days later I have an asus routers. I have asus routers using mesh It started happening recently and I'm not sure what to do next. Um, and dave, you had a good answer for him I am am I sharing the answer here? I happen to well, I guess you can I tried it. I tried the same thing And sadly, uh, it it repeated itself And so my solution was to change my network name because it wasn't happening I have two networks sharpie and I have sharpie 2.4 for my 2.4 gig It would always connect to my 2.4 gig without fail But it would never automatically connect to my 5 gigahertz network So I changed the network name from capital s sharpie to all caps sharpie and the problem went away Well, of course, you know because I changed the it was a different network as far as the iPhone is concerned Right, right, right if you want to keep the same network name and there is You know, we we talked about this recently changing your network name is a painful process Oh, yeah, because all your internet of things correct and and you know, there's the the uh the domestic Uh peace factor as well That you don't want to disturb right checks to your divorce attorney when you start changing network Names and email accounts. Just that's right. Yep um If it's just happening on your mac The the way I would approach this is uh, I would go I would Disconnect from wi-fi. So just turn wi-fi off on on your mac Disconnect from this device this network on all of your devices And then on one mac go into keychain access First choose the iCloud keychain that's there and then either filter, you know, your search or sort by Uh and find the the things with that network name. You might have more than one entry Look for the entry or entries where the kind column Calls it airport network password. That's where your wi-fi passwords are stored Delete any entries with that network name with the kind of airport network password in the iCloud keychain Then go to the login keychain and do the same thing After you are done doing that in the login keychain Go back to the iCloud keychain and make sure they're still gone Reboot your mac Reconnect that one mac to that wi-fi network And hopefully it asks you for a password when you do that if it doesn't it means that it has Re-inherited it from iCloud go repeat those deletion steps again What you need to do is make that one mac the truth Right and and then have it push it out to iCloud. It's possible that iCloud actually has it right And at any point in this process your mac might just be fixed and then and then you're good to go But otherwise just keep making sure you're you're wiping it out of iCloud so that that one mac can become the truth And that one mac can be correct And then have that mac that mac hopefully then we'll push it all back out to iCloud And the rest of your devices will inherit it from there You know, we don't know whether the problem Is specific to that mac or that that problem is specific or is iCloud wide We know your other devices are okay, but that doesn't mean that iCloud's okay, right? It might just mean that your other devices are okay It's it's we've seen it go both ways and it's there's no easy way to tell other than starting down this path and just seeing How many times you need to sort of beat against that wall before it it finally, you know, let's go Right and and you told me at one point wait 24 hours for iCloud to properly purge and propagate and Yeah, it shouldn't take that long. I mean it should but yes, I mean with yours. It was it was just happening so much I think you had I think your issue was that this was sort of tied in knots on multiple max simultaneously And that yeah, so and I had the I also had the advantage that you know I do go away on business frequently for more than 24 hours So I had the ability to forget that network for 24 hours and not affect my My workflow your workflow. Yeah, exactly. Yep. Yep. Yep. All right Well, how about we move on to roger? I'm into it. All right He says hey guys, I have a t-mobile internet router that occasionally goes wonky when the house power blips It does not do a full reset and I'm without internet to check cameras and thermostats Calling t-mobile does not solve the problem because it will not show up on their system is being online I can call my neighbor to come over and pull the plug for a minute and that will cause it to successfully reset However, I would like not to impose on him when this happens Which seems to only happen when I am out of town like this past week Any suggestions on how to accomplish this perhaps plugging it into some Sort of power surge device that resets up to every 12 to 24 hours may accomplish that goal Is there such a thing on the market? Do you have any suggestions? So you answered that question and my my answer ahead of time was just put it on a ups And that way when the house power blips Yes, your your router doesn't power blip your right. No, that that is that is a way to avoid this problem Assuming that that's the only time that this happens is that you know, if it's only on a power blip because I would agree Really the solution and I think having your network gear on a ups aka a battery backup unit Is a good idea. There are several brands that I happily use apc is sort of the the you know gold standard brand if you want to call it that Amazon basics also makes great ups. I have many amazon basics ups in my house I think I have I think I have more of those now than I have apc units So, you know, but you know by one that's the right size the big the right size battery For whatever you need to power your router doesn't take much, but you might choose to power your router and something else I have most of my electronics all my tv's all of that stuff are on ups is and you know, they I can only speak anecdotally here, but In addition to Keeping power blips, you know with the power drops From affecting my units it also conditions the power So all of my devices get very consistent power if there's a spike or a dip it just smooths it all out and Since everything is on a transformer these days and since those transformers are probably The least expensive component in the camp in the in the chain there You want to take care of those transformers and giving them consistent power Keeps them from overheating and having to regulate things It in an in an overactive sense. So my stuff lasts and I'm gonna, you know knock on some wood here But um, you done did it now man. I did yeah, but um, but you know a ups would be would be great However Your if your router doesn't gracefully recover From a power outage. There's probably something wrong with that router from t-mobile So I would ask them to get you a new one All that said I do have an answer for the very specific question that roger asked There are two devices that I know about that We've talked about on the show that do exactly what roger is looking for the first is called keep connect Um, and it is for 50 bucks. You can find it on amazon. I've got a link in the show notes It is the called the keep connect router rebooter You connect it in line you plug your router into this you plug this into the wall So it has the ability to cut power from your router when desired And it also connects to your wi-fi so it monitors your connectivity And when it sees that connectivity has dropped for too long It resets your power and brings your router back up and hopefully Everything is good. It says it will also send you texts upon resets So that's one the keep connect which I you know like this idea There's another called the connect sense router rebooter. That is 55 dollars on amazon and guess what it does the same thing I don't know about the text, but otherwise it it kind of does the you know the the the same thing and and does that I found a thing On amazon for eight dollars called the extension cable router rebooter um This does not connect to your wi-fi. It does not know when your connection has dropped Um, it is also not plugging in via ac power. It is plugging in between the transformer and your router so Probably a whole lot more limited use case, but it's only eight bucks and It resets the power on your router every 24 hours, whether it needs it or not So there you go. Yeah, or whatever is connected to it. I mean it's it's it's built for a router, but you know could be could be anything so um Yeah, so those those are Those answer the question, but I it's definitely the economical one. But yeah, well, I like your answer Yeah, I mean I like get a ups, but I also think you know, especially if this is a t-mobile device Go get get t-mobile to replace that device. It's obviously It should recover gracefully From a power outage. I had that problem after a software update with my first uh fiber ont Which is essentially the we'll call it the cable modem for the fiber, right and Uh, it was fine until it was not fine, and then it wouldn't recover gracefully from a power cycle You had to like restart restart things in the right order and it was no bueno Yeah, yeah, yeah not good but You know, I got him to replace it and everything's been fine ever since so I think I think it it it A firmware update sort of borked it from them, you know, one of them pushed. Yeah. Yeah, so anyway all right Let's move on to barb then Barb writes in she says several several episodes back Y'all talked about resetting the apple tv remote when there is a problem my personality My personality made me do it. Okay, I get it And now I'm with you barb My personality made me do it even though there was nothing wrong with my apple tv remote Now my apple tv remote will not turn off or turn on my tv Even when I long pressed the power button when I did a search on your website It sent me to episode 961, which did not have what I needed. Please send me in the right direction Thanks barb and I listened to the latest podcast if it ain't broke fix it till it is What a hoot because that's exactly what I did It happens to the best of us barb you are in good company Indeed so I think I'm understanding The way I'm interpreting this is that once the tv is on the apple tv remote still controls the apple tv device It just does not power cycle. It can't control the power of the tv Right and or I I'm I'm thinking maybe also the volume I would assume the volume too. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So if that is what is happening here What you need to do is sort of reconnect your apple tv To the remote functionality of your tv and that will also retrain your remote if it's doing it via infrared So To do this you've got a manually power on your tv. I know like an animal And then you're gonna have to walk all the way across the room barb and back all the way Or use the remote that came with your tv. I mean either one, you know uphill both ways in the snow That's right. Yes. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we're carrying the coal and the firewood. Um Then once you've got that on Use your apple tv remote to control your apple tv go to settings again This is on the apple tv home theater control Control tvs and receivers and make sure that option is on If that's off, none of this is gonna work Once that's on if it was off and you turned it on try it you might be done If you're not done Also on that screen There is the learn remote feature that learns your tv's remote into your remote I think this is what happened for you. You reset the remote and it forgot the infrared commands That it had previously learned from your tv. So you're gonna need your tv Maybe You might need your tv's remote apple's so smart about the way they do this that Sometimes you just say, oh, yeah, I have a panasonic tv or you know lge and it's like, yeah, I got you. Does that work? Yeah, okay, great. Then you're done. So that may be all it takes If I completely misunderstood the question And it's that your apple tv remote isn't controlling anything like not even your apple tv Then you might need to repair the remote with your apple tv and so again Turn on your tv manually so that you can see what's going on And set it to the hdmi input that your apple tv is plugged into again So you can see what's going on point your remote at your apple tv Make sure that the remote is about three inches from your apple tv So for this one, you definitely need to get up off the couch And then press and hold the back or menu button and the volume up button for five seconds Your tv might ask you or your apple tv via the Message on the screen might ask you to place your remote on top of the apple tv to complete pairing if it does of course do that so hopefully Hopefully one of these two things was the problem and Even more. Hopefully one of these two things is the answer But my guess is you have to just do that learn remote thing But I figured while we were on the subject we'll go through the whole Sure shoot match and and I I have mad respect for you barb that you heard about a thing You didn't need to do and you did it anyway because that's what we do here. Yep. Absolutely. You're a good company I break stuff all the time. I hear about like oh, it sounds like that's got to make things better So I I I definitely need to do it and then It turns out No, I think within the last six weeks. I've done it on the show You were talking about something in safari and I did it and you're and then at the very end you went Oh and before you do this remember to Yeah, I do have a habit of Not prefacing it like I'm really good over the years I've learned that but this doesn't happen in the order that you folks read it like when you send in a question I'll start answering the question like okay. Yeah. Yeah do this this is this and then it's like Oh, wait, I got to go renumber all the steps I just put in this email because step number one is make a backup Like, you know, yeah, but I will start giving advice and then after I give the advice I'm sort of digesting or even as I'm giving it. I'm digesting What the implications are it's like well, obviously make a backup first and it's like I gotta put that there. Yep, Dave Yep, yep, so yeah, I'm I'm that's partially my fault. Yeah Whatever so No, that's great stuff and I've got one Here's another rabbit hole for you and I It's weird. So I've got this really nice LG TV. I bought after Christmas about four or five years ago when it was all on sale and It's the OLED beautiful screen and all that and it stopped connecting to Wi-Fi No matter way, so I can't update it anymore And I looked on YouTube and it involves placing it on his face taking the back off blowing out the The card that handles the Wi-Fi and I'm like, I really don't want to do this to this expensive TV But I can't seem to find a way to get it to connect Wi-Fi So if anybody knows of another way without taking my television apart I Dave has Dave in the corner I know I'm sitting in the back of the room, but uh, what if you Got a device that would connect to Wi-Fi and then let you plug your TV ethernet into that like, uh, You know like an access router Well or an access point from your mesh network, right like like some mesh access points Actually where that TV is sitting I have a hole drilled through the floor down to the router and up And I do have some cat 5 cables right there. I have not tried the cat 5 cable So I would that that would be my thing is it could be the whole network board is shot, right? In which case then it doesn't matter, but um Yeah, I mean, I would just say well, I mean sometimes Wi-Fi cards die, right and then you use the ethernet And sometimes cards die the TV works great except I I only use the apple tv input right now I can't use the netflix app on the tv as it right because it doesn't connect so which is fine You know, I don't use it. I don't need to use it, but it would be nice that it worked Yeah, you know, I um We we have for the most part at home standardized on not using our lg tv's smart tv features We just use the apple tv because it's just so much easier however at present And they told me but they've told me for six months so i'm not holding my breath anymore They told me they're working on this at present the plex app and only the plex app on apple tv has trouble It will not in fact play Dolby atmos sound through the apple tv Right the plex app on my lg tv Will play dolby atmos sound So if I want to if I have a movie on my plex server And I have a few where there are you know where there's dolby atmos on there I have to play them through my lg tv otherwise.  So exactly So, yeah, I mean it because like otherwise the apple tv makes life so much easier Dolby atmos sound from apples movies from netflix. This is most definitely a plex issue There's a long story. I plex is I know they just did a bunch of layoffs I never like too bad. I never like to hear that about my friends Uh, and and certainly the folks at plex are are are people I consider friends Many of them not all of them However, a silver lining to that may be That the one person who was in the engineering department that was sort of holding up a lot of progress On how plex does things might not be there anymore. I don't know whether that person was let go or not But I do know that that person existed at plex and is a Huge has been a huge problem there You know, we don't usually get into the gossip here, but but like I've dug deep enough to find out like Why aren't you guys doing these things and and of course corporate grass will not say anything about this But of course not if they can't they can't or should they right, you know But you get into the trenches and when like five people point to a specific person the engineering manager and they're like That's the problem. It's like, oh I can see this now. I've had interactions with that person. I I get what you're saying.  It just you know, they get the Okay, that's a lawsuit, you know, that's right. That's correct. Yeah But they could just let that person go like, you know, well, that's another lawsuit, but you know, yeah, maybe maybe No, I get what which is too bad because Because I don't know about all the listeners, but if if you haven't tried plex boy, is that a great way? Yeah, to conglomerate all of your media I love it between that and channels and then you can play You can play plex through channels even so Yeah, no, and don't let don't let my comments about their internal politics Dissuade you. I am a huge plex fan. I love plex Like I don't know I would use mb There is a there is a competitor of sorts to plex that that is pretty much as good ish Uh, and it's called mb emby. So if plex were to go away, I would definitely switch over to mb But um, but I don't want to have to I don't know what plex lifetime pass costs right now I think it's in the hundred and a quarter range somewhere in there. I bought it when it was 79 dollars Probably seven or eight years ago. Yeah, if not longer and it has been worth every penny Absolutely, if you don't have a plex lifetime pass get it. It is so much Oh, yeah, so function way to go. Yeah, I love it. But start for if you haven't started with plex start for free 100% Make sure it works on the hardware you have make sure it does the things you want get familiar with it and then If you're consider if you're at the point where you're like, I want to pay for a year of this Just pay for the lifetime pass. You will thank yourself Absolutely. Yeah, and as much as dave hates it. I'm gonna tell you you should do this Well, I don't I know is not it Dave is well, okay. Hate is a strong word to Dave is not a fan of the word should you should correct If you want to be like Dave and me Yes, there you go. Yeah Yeah, yeah, we have one last thing to share from listener Javier um, we were talking recently about Uh, your apple tv Not working all that well and a way to fix it is to free up storage on it And our advice was to delete apps. Well, Javier says I've experienced the same issues I have a 64 gig fourth gen apple tv and a 64 gig third gen when I went to storage on both They were both almost full. I too got caught. But here's the thing I don't have many apps or games on either of them in total all my apps take up about 700 megabytes of the 64 gigs I don't have any games installed Let's assume the apple tv software itself takes what six gigs on my 64 gig apple tv That would leave over 50 gigs of available space But he says I was seeing it was reporting less than one gig of storage left It says but I think I found the culprit or at least a big contributor to it the aerial Screensaver when you go set up the aerial screensaver the apple tv warns you that each screensaver can take up to 50 megs There are four different flavors of aerial you can choose to enable one two three or all four and each type has Several videos that can be played and they can be updated with new ones and download it automatically And you have no granular control of how many to download If you multiply each one by 950 you can start to see how quickly that will add up to make matters worse There's no way that I've found to delete or reduce the number of these videos He says to my solution change the screensaver from aerial to say apple photos You can select between animals flowers landscapes nature or shot on iphone or of course under home sharing You can use your own personal photos But the amount of data the apple tv or storage the apple tv will use for the screensaver should now be significantly less Since turning off aerial my storage has climbed from less than one gig to now four gigs free using the same apps as before So maybe it's now finally deleting some of those screensavers as they expire Yeah, fascinating. I wish there was a way To and maybe there is to tell it Don't cash anything just download it every time you're going to use it. I don't have I got unlimited bandwidth I've got you know, I'm on a fiber connection. Let's let's let's rock and roll. Yeah, they are beautiful I know that's the thing is I don't want to give up my aerial screensavers p There's the one over lax. There's someone over There's the several over dubai. There's yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, there was something over I think it was over the netherlands. Um, some gorgeous. You see these all the time. I never do the uh, the the the northern lights So the oh, yeah, right exactly You pilots, you know, I know that you know most pilots also know how spoiled you are in this regard that you get to see those things on a fairly regular basis From a great vantage point. Yeah, it's really something. In fact, I got a quick funny story. Okay, go my first time I'm a brand new fo first officer on an md-11 and we are coming back from europe back to the states And it's long flights. So there's three of us and the captain goes back for his rest break The relief pilot is sitting in the captain's chair and we're out over the north atlantic on a december night And the most gorgeous aurora borealis northern lights. I've ever seen are up there So we turn down every light in the cockpit to To go as black as possible and we just sit there for about 10 minutes watching this and it's like, oh, this is beautiful It's like, all right We got to get back to flying that the autopilot has the airplane and things are going along Fat diamond happy So we go to turn the all the instruments back on and they're black I have got adrenaline racing through my heart.   I'm literally I had now I've got adrenaline pumping through my heart. Oh, yeah, this is bad. We're over the north atlantic in the middle of a december night and We got nothing You have time you do have time on your side And fortunately time is what it took because about 40 seconds later the instruments started fading in These this is an md11 They're crt's cathode ray tubes. They are not the instant on ledl So we turned them off. They had cooled down now. They needed warm-up time. That was all oh man That's the longest 40 seconds you've ever experienced. It was terror.  So as long as we're on our routing, we're good We don't have to do anything good. Peter's got it, but Yep, yep, yep. Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so that was terrifying Not making gap stuff, but we talked about the aurora barialis and I had to go. Yeah, this is I appreciate the story Self-inflicted stupidity wound and we're supposed to have some here last night in uh, new hampshire And uh, they did not make it here, but it was just as well I had I was up at The previous day I was up at like 2 30 in the morning for to do my final round of prep for Colonoscopy that I did yesterday, which was early in the day And so, uh, there was a very little chance that I was going to be able to stay up As late as I normally do to see those and so when I saw the news report that said You know, you don't like it's not going to happen. It was like, okay, that's it. I'm going to bed So I'm well rested now. Everything's good. Colonoscopy went well. It was, you know, simple and easy.  Yeah, I could yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agreed totally agreed Thank you for hanging out with us folks. Thank you for sending in all your questions to feedback at mackeekab.com I believe is what I said. Whoa. Did you say feedback at mackeekab.com? I believe I said feedback at mackeekab.com Hopefully that's where they're sending in the news I think I said it in the I think I even said it in the intro of the show But I didn't give you an opportunity to you know, do the shtick. So I had to open that up. The shtick it is Yeah, thanks for hanging out. Thanks to cash fly for providing all the bandwidth to get the show from us to you Thanks to our sponsors, of course hopwater.com slash mgg. That's hopwtr.com slash mgg Finally was able to have another one last last night after my my cleansing and all that stuff I loved it. It's great. Those things are awesome Because I couldn't drink alcohol yesterday. You see after the I had anesthesia, you know, it's the responsible thing I can today and I will You should and and bb edit from bare bones. I should thank you appreciate that um We're gonna head off to max stock the next episode will be recorded Maybe at max stock, but we're gonna have another one in the can just in case It was something at issue. Yeah, just because you know editing and all that stuff might take some time But hopefully the live mackey cab caucus that we are doing at max stock Will be recorded in a way that we can share it with all of you on these channels So if you're coming to max stock, be sure to say hi. If not say hi everywhere else We are and what's the what's the last thing we're going to share with them today p Well, you shouldn't get caught.  Thanks for hanging out with us later