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Our distinguished guest for this evening is Mr. Arthur Garfield Hayes, famed constitutional lawyer and general counsel for the Civil Liberties Union. The opinions expressed are necessarily those of the speakers. Mr. Hayes, our Chronoscope audience knows you, sir, as a long-time crusader for human freedom, and I'm sure they'll be very much interested in your views tonight. Now, sir, we had Senator McCarthy on this show a few days ago, and our audience had his views. Now, what is your general appraisal of Senator McCarthy and his work, sir? I think he's the most dangerous man in the United States. I think Senator McCarthy is more dangerous to freedom in the United States than all the communists we have in this country. Well, Mr. Hayes, do you think that because he's attacking communism, and I disagree with the senator? Do you think that he's dangerous because he's attacking communism? No, I think he's dangerous, but because without sufficient evidence, he's smearing a lot of respected and highly decent people. Well, do you think, Mr. Hayes, that there are communists in the State Department having infiltrated our government? I don't think for a moment they've begun to infiltrate the government. I think there may be a few communists in the State Department who don't do anything that is much harm as a suspicion that's stirred up against the whole State Department by an ally like McCarthy and his ill and his followers. Well, what specific harm do you think Senator McCarthy has done? Well, I think when you smear men like Owen Lattimore and Phillip Jessup, Jessup who's done a great job for the United Nations, and when you throw suspicion on men who've been in government service for years and make people doubt their own State Department, you do a great deal of harm because you stir up hate and suspicion and fear all over the United States. I think the most dangerous thing the communists can do in the United States is stir up hate, suspicion and fear.  Do you think that there is any ground for suspicion and fear among the people of the United States, sir? No reasonable ground, and I think that no man should be deprived of his reputation as standing without a fair trial and a judgment according to Anglo-Saxon methods, and not by the ravines of McCarthy even though he has congressional immunity. But don't you think that the American people, sir, have some reason to suspect their State Department that harbors a hiss or that harbors people that are known to be subversive and to be agents of foreign powers? I don't think American people have any sound reason to suspect our State Department at present. Well, Mr. Hayes, sound reason, we're going to separate this from Senator McCarthy immediately. We agree. If you want to separate sound reason from Senator McCarthy, you and I are on the same side. All right, well taken. We agree and we dismiss him. Now, Owen Lattimore, don't you think he's a danger as a friend of Matsudon, the commander of the army that's fighting our own United Nations? For 15 years, Owen Lattimore has been Matsudon's friend. Now, do you think that doesn't constitute a danger to the thinking of our State Department? No, I don't because I've seen nothing or heard of nothing that Owen Lattimore has done. That seems to me to suggest for a moment that he isn't a loyal American. Well, now, let's come, let's do this, sir. Personalities are very interesting, but let's come to McCarthy's methods, which are the things that you are most opposed. Now, you're at your position that his methods have not been justified. It is. Now, a great many Americans, however, believe that the one reality of our time is the Soviet power and that that Soviet power is aided in the United States by people who are willing to lend their aid to that Soviet power. Soviet power in Russia is one thing. Soviet power in the United States, I don't think exists. But you do exist that there are, you do admit that there are Americans who want to make Russia more powerful and that there have been such Americans inside our own government. Yes, but very few in number. Mr. Hayes. And exercising in my judgment, no influence. Mr. Hayes, don't you think that 500,000 Americans led by Stalinists, labor leaders, they're a menace, especially when in the heart of our defense industry. When do you get 500,000 Stalinists? The 500,000 Americans are members of trade unions led in the heart of our defense industry by communist labor leaders. Don't you think that constitutes a menace of civil liberties? I don't, because I think it'll work itself out the same as it has in the CIO. At one time, the communists are very strong in the CIO. Then the communists began playing politics instead of attending the labor union duties and they were thrown out of practically all the CIO unions. Every time I read of a strike, I don't attribute it to communists. They don't deserve the credit. No, no, we're going to dismiss that one, too. We're not going to... All right, I'm glad you agreed with me. No, don't you think that though they organized conspiracy of American Stalinism with 43,000 fanatics represents a threat to American civil liberties? No, I don't. I think all those people are under surveillance by the FBI. I think they might need fifth columnists in case of war. I don't think their potential spies because spies aren't used to or under suspicion and I trust the FBI and I trust the laws. If what you're trying to tell me is that we have a right to violate laws of decency as well as laws in the statue books in order to get communists, what you're really saying is that a totalitarian government over here would be safer than a democratic government and I don't believe it. Let me say Mr. Hayes, I'm for decency. I wanted to make that clear. Well, I thought you were. That's why I thought your argument wasn't sound. Well, I'm delighted that both you gentlemen are for decency but let's come back to the State Department and don't you think, sir, that Senator McCarthy's methods might be justified and that the House on American Activities Committees methods might be justified because of a failure on the department on a part of the Department of Justice. After all, the FBI knew of the existence of Alger Hiss for four or five years before we were prosecuted. Well, I'll grant you Hiss but for heaven's sake, you're not going to found all your policy on the fact that one man was found guilty of having done something improper in 1938 and lied about it in 1948. Don't you think? Certainly you're not going to take that position. Mr. Hayes, don't you think that the State Department, having worked us into this holocaust in the East, has failed because of the policies which I think pro-communist policies or the pro-Lambor, Well, I don't have the State Department to send to the holocaust in the East. What did, Mr. Hayes? The invasion of the North Korea of the communists. Who was responsible for that? I think the communists were responsible. And behind them? Russia, of course. And therefore you don't think that the same extension of the same conspiracy in the United States represents a threat to us? Yes, but I don't see the same conspiracy in the United States. I'm not afraid of the communists in the United States. There never has been a more cute political movement in the United States than that of communism. After 25 years, they can't get enough votes to keep their name in the ballot. This idea of finding a communist owner under the bed seems to me all nonsense. And the result of the whole thing is that Americans now are so timid about expressing themselves that we've practically given up democratic methods and free speech. Nobody in this country dares to say anything that might suggest to anybody that he's an appeaser or a pro-Russian or anything else. The result is that we act as one and even on controversial subjects. We don't find any debate in public light. And don't dare. As a liberal, sir, and a believer in human freedom, you deplore the fact that Americans do not to hell that or utilize that liberty as they once did. Well, surely as soon as you get to a position where you have a timid public as you have today, that is the end of free speech. It's just as serious as for Congress to pass laws. I think we're a whole lot safer and healthier if every man says exactly what he believes. Now, to relate your views to the political issues of 1952, sir, where do you stand? Are you going to... Do you expect to support Truman in 1952? I do unless Eisenhower's nominated. If Eisenhower's nominated, I'd probably support him. Why? Because as President of Columbia, I heard Eisenhower speak on democracy and he thrilled me. And I think his views are what I regard as democratic views. Would you make those specifics, sir? We've been trying to get some of those views from him and he has refused. Well, I think if you read the past prints and read his speeches, you'll find that he's opposed to the President's hysteria. He's opposed to things that make us all fearful of communists. He believes in people audaciously expressing themselves. And he believes that the atmosphere of today is very bad. Do you think the general is a liberal or conservative by your stand as Mr. Hayes? That's hard to tell. I don't use terms liberal or conservative. Would you vote for him on the Republican ticket, sir? Yes. The party of McCarthy? Well, I regard as a party of Eisenhower. All right. I would so regard. How do you regard Senator Taps? He's a man who is supposed to have considerable respect for the law. And as a lawyer yourself, I should think that would attract you to Senator Taps. I have respect for Senator Taps as a man. I think he's able and honest. And I like the way he handled himself in general. But Senator Taps to me is more or less of a metal machine. And I haven't the same liking or admiration for him personally that I would have for either Eisenhower or Truman.  As a fighter for human liberty for many, many years in this country, are you hopeful about the prospects for liberalism as you defined it in America in 1952? Yes, I am because I've seen the same as there exists. I saw it exist in the 20s when the socialists were the target. The party to the left is always the target. Someday we'll have a party more radical than the communists and then the communists will be respectable. I think this idea of becoming fearful because of names is all absurd. 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I think of feminism as having opened up people's thinking about what it means to carve out your life as a man or as a woman or not or somewhere in between. It has expanded. It really had an extremely liberating effect, certainly on me and I think on a lot of other people. It makes it possible to think that you can actually design and create your own life and that you don't have to live in gender role stereotypes and that you can be a self created person. At the time that I photographed Felicity, which was around 1984, she was already quite elderly. First I think I'll tell you about what I saw when I walked in. There was this very nice, very well put together, elderly lady sitting on her sofa and right behind her, as you'll see, is a beautiful photograph hanging on the wall.  The reason he was dressed as a little girl is that this was the day that he was going to get his first haircut and it was quite common at that time for little boys to have long hair. So they dressed him up in the clothing of the little girl across the street and they took a series of lovely pictures and they went, I've got his haircut. The pictures were put away and it wasn't until he was 12 years old that John ran across these pictures in the attic. They brought back the feeling of this really wonderful day that he had experienced with his parents of the wind blowing up his little dress and the attention in the sun and just the whole feeling of attention that he'd gotten as this very pretty little girl. And that's when, in his case, his cross-dressing started. It is possible to create a satisfying life for yourself as a person who's bi-gendered, which is what I, or cross-dresser, which is really somebody who goes back and forth in the case of John slash Felicity, that it does not have to be seen as it usually has been by the media as some horrible, bizarre, grotesque, tragic thing.


Salaam from the NewsClick Studios in New Delhi, I am Sihant Ani and with me on the show, this is Play Things of Alien Forces. With me on the show as always is our sports editor Leslie Xavier Leslie. Year end special, ending the year on a high actually for Indian sport because some good news from the world badminton championships that happened over this weekend. Yeah, not bad. Srikanth reaching the final, winning the silver and again for the men's it's an unprecedented feat. We have so far only one bronze medals and a great way to end the season as well because Indian badminton if you look at it from an overall perspective it was a good year. The Olympic medal for Sindhu as expected probably the color should have been better but again it's a tight game over there and she did well to be on the podium again back to back Olympics. And towards the end we had seven players in the world tour finals qualified for the world tour finals. Again a big achievement when you look at qualifying itself because we are talking about the top eight players in the world. And top players or doubles pairs and out of which again Sindhu and youngster Lakshya Sen he reached the semi-finals and he missed out on a medal and Sindhu reached the final and silver. So good year after the world championship happened a busy year for them also because the end of the end of the year back to back global level tournaments as such. But again a slightly I mean I have a different view on that and which we were also discussing earlier before. Yeah I was going to say we have this WhatsApp group that is Leslie myself and our eternal skeptic Mr. Webber Bravanandan. And these guys had a quite interesting take on what happens post an Olympic cycle. Yeah so if you look at Srikanth's career trajectory it's an interesting journey because he is considered a world level player. He is considered I mean when he reaches top 10 he was world number one previously into the end of 2018. And when we look at Srikanth generally when we mentioned him we think of him as a top 10 player period quality wise. But just that Srikanth's run in the top ranks sort of happens he misses the bus when it comes to Olympics. It happens after the Olympics usually in 2018 like I mentioned when he became world number one that's right in the middle of two Olympics. And now look at it the Olympics got over and he is just showing signs that he can become the world number one again. But three years away from Olympics so this is something that I have discussed about Sindhu as well long back. This discussion this thing in my mind it has been playing in my mind for a while now that the idea of which tournament or which competition to peak. This is very important in modern sport because it's simply very difficult to sustain yourself at high intensity through the season. Day in day out and then also when the stakes are high bring that game out. Classic example of I mean since we are talking about badminton I would yeah there are examples in tennis and all this sport. But in badminton classic example was Linda and I mean the Olympics all world championship this man comes and wins everything and goes away. And then he fades he is not there but is there too because he is planning his next trajectory. So this is something that Srikanth or Indian players seem to have missed or the management for that matter because you have to plan this very systematically. Sindhu does that beautifully. Sindhu we always address and describe Sindhu as a big tournament player. What is a big tournament player. It is that planning that is required to step by step increment and ensure that you are there on the boil in perfect zone when the big tournament is happening. And then ease off a little. Now after the Olympics Sindhu East off Sindhu's first two tournaments two tournaments two tournaments she never reached the semifinals. She was building it world tours she did better. And if you look at rest of the players also they are on and off now after the Olympics the Olympic medalists for instance. And yesterday Srikanth's finalist opponent was world number 22 Singaporean player. And on a given day considering that Srikanth was ranked higher he should have beaten him. But for some reason after taking an initial lead in the match he just faded as well. So it was a game of in that sense elite level lesser models and out of which one of the players had to lose and it happened to be Srikanth. But I would say missed a great opportunity to add a world title into his resume. But I would also hope that there is some more system in place for planning these players journey. Especially someone like Lakshya Sen even bronze in the world championship which is again considering his age he is just 19. So it's a big achievement. Yeah again his peak form has started after the Olympics he never qualified. And so I'm just hoping that from here because next year is a big tournament year also for India with Asian Games, Commonwealth Games. And of course badminton the tour continues on parallelly. A planning and system is in place so that he doesn't burn out or get injured or whatever which is something that happened to Srikanth. He got injured playing the Nationals in 2019. Why should a world number one player Nationals unless if there is some plan to it. So I think one of the things and again I guess this is important because this is after all play things. Is that the challenge for these players particularly on tour is to participate perhaps in as many events as possible so as to maximize the amount of prize money that they can potentially earn. Especially with like sort of bigger money tournaments like the year enders and all of that. That's one thing and then also in terms of the maybe the frequency of tournaments they play because of sponsor commitments and other things like that. They I think need to be a little bit more on the court versus players let's say like the Chinese gang that probably gets a lot more state support. Because here and I may be wrong on this but I don't think so. But even under the top scheme which is the central government scheme for elite level athletes who are supposed to have a chance of winning in Olympic medal. Even there they are better off the more they play. The more time they are spending on tour the more sort of you know support they are getting from the state to go and compete and play and then some allowances and such. So perhaps these are some of the polls that come into play when it comes to deciding and Sindhu because you mentioned Sindhu and how good she is at planning. It's also because a large chunk of Sindhu's earnings now because she has made herself into a market friendly marketable figure. A lot of her income comes from endorsements. So she doesn't necessarily have to bank on prize money or even state sponsorship in order to sort of make ends meet as it was or have a decent you know living on a decent living wage. It's again it's one more factors there to add to what you said. So it's not just about the price money here. It's also about ranking. The more you play you get ranked you get a better draw. You won't end up playing the world number one at in the first round. So it's that that matters too. So and then also they mandate from BWF World Federation that you should have so many numbers of tournaments under your belt that that. So there have been discussions in badminton about player burnout and all that and so the key year is intensity and physical form and game form. And it it it can be varied. It can be planned by simple science which is which is very prevalent now in sports and fitness management and all that which is periodization.  So yeah you play you reach the semifinals of various tour events but then when the moment comes you are winning and this is key for other sport as well. So something that we discussed during the Olympics. Shooters context. Shooters context also in general those who make it to the Olympic Games at the last possible moment or athletes or swimmers. So Sajan Prakash for instance he made it with I mean he was the first Indian swimmer to qualify with the A mark and he post the Olympics after he returned in interviews he spoke about how he can't possibly within a month. Yeah. In the sense he qualified a month before that was his peak and he said to repeat again for the Olympics and probably break the record make the finals. So whatever he needed at least six weeks of training. The period is that and he didn't have that. So this is something that we have discussed even before Sajan came out and said about this that Indians speak for qualifying. So then forget the medal part of it at least at least for the larger chunk. Of course we won six medals and seven seven medals and it's it's great. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to forget that. But the larger the other question is why we compete at the Olympics. What is at stake. How. I mean all these things are pretty had ad hoc still. So that's that's that's something that in the coming years sports since since since other things have been set. Money is coming in. The PR is there and role models are there also in in various sport in athletics. I mean imagine that gold medalist in athletics. So now it's it's time to get the country to take off from where I mean use this as a launch pad and and that requires planning and and for the elite elites different type of planning for the grass loose different types of planning and let's see what the coming years turned out next year. Like we always say it's an important year Asian Games and Commonwealth Games. We have many medalists in the Asian Games who never made it to the Olympics. So in that sense the performance at these continental events and in a larger sense how much should we take it with a pinch of salt. That is also also something that we need to and more than we as as journalists skeptical or not. It's also sports administrators you should you should take note of such things. Which leads us nicely into our next topic of conversation on this show which otherwise we're doing a year end. So there's a good chance that we're going to sit and talk for two or three hours. So you know in the interest of keeping things kind of on track and on time. Firstly if someone can tell me how how much time we've already done on the show. But secondly the Olympics. I think a good way to kind of break this show up is also to club all of those Olympic sports into one. And since you're the man that's been covering most of that. An unexpected and brilliant gold medal performance from Neeraj Chopra. But beyond that what did you make of the games. Firstly we get back to Neeraj in a bit. I mean it was so on a personal personal note I would say I was skeptical about the games being staged at when pandemic is around. And such a mega event with all those all those players and officials and delegates coming in and Tokyo having a fee period with cases. And I've written pieces on that at that point and then somehow after the Olympics the piece I wrote was that I'm missing it. I just don't know what to do now. The thrill has gone away. The thrill has gone away. So that's games for you and it's always inspiring. What are we the outcome? What are we the number of medals that our country won or where the records were broken? Where they want to resist? Where the doping was there? All these things hardly matter because the games represent something larger as four sports lovers. And it's not by chance or fluke that even non-sport lovers hook on to the Olympics when it happens. That is its power. And that is what I guess I mean beyond the money and other factors that these guys were at vested interest in to stage the games. Beyond that I think that that is the power that that is the larger goal that everyone stands for. We can obviously say a lot about how that has been used to do a lot of other things, vested interest, whatever. But games was there and as far as India is concerned we underachieved in a way because our shooters misfire. And that again goes back to the conversation that we are planning part of it. Planning as well as protecting the athletes. I feel that there was a lot of muck being drawn around especially the young shooters who were supposed to win medals like Manu Bhaka for instance and her tussle with the coach. And then officials coming in saying statements, other people saying stuff, Manu's family saying stuff. And all these things I mean on the eve of the Olympic Games and then right through at the venue it's not done. And also Manu's first event she performed, she had bad luck and she performed badly. And after that what did you do with that athlete? You need to get her to refocus because you have two more events left in the runner. And she is again right up there for winning a medal and instead of that controversy sources this that and they just ruined it. That is just one case of it. So for me medals apart when I look at India's performance at the Olympic Games this highlights what is the problem for India. The lack of understanding of the people who run sport in the country as to what they are dealing with. It's not a political game they are dealing with. Most of them have a political background that's probably why this is happening. So sports persons competing in the field it's not a political game at all, it's not an election rally at all. You have larger things at stake, people involved in it with mind, body and matter everything is in tandem as to being in place working together. And in all that mess I mean if athletes come out and win medals of course it is a special achievement. That's where when I look at Bajrang Punea's bronze medal for instance. So there is this talk within wrestling fraternity that Bajrang is arrogant, Vinesh Fogut is arrogant because they demand that they want this, they want that. And demand at times going against the Federation officials going vocal to the media. So Bajrang has had his coach Shaco Bentonitis for a long while and a senior Federation official before the Olympics told me that the Federation is waiting for him to fail.  So when Bajrang had that injury one and a half months before the Olympic Games it was actually a solid period for him for everybody involved. And the way he fought and won that medal and if not for that medal he would have been completely made a sideline, made an escape body, may not be sideline because he will come back again. So same with Vinesh Fogut after that they hounded her till she came out in the media and presented her case and presented the side that she has been mentally tortured with this and then the officials had to step back. This is on the simple subject of a physio. Of a physio and wrestling as a sport and you need a high demand. Highly demanding sport. Yeah, you have limited number of, I do understand limited number of officials were allowed because of the pandemic situation there. So physios maybe India at 5, 6, whatever they had to be distributed among this thing. But a woman, I mean we address women wrestlers in the mix and she was just asking the women wrestling team needs a physio. Sindhu had a personal trainer and physio at the cost of other coaches but that stopped our, I agree. But again the wrestler in question here is also trying to use whatever the cloud that she has to get what the basic requirement to compete at a high level. So it's a given and for me arrogance matter for sports person because that translates on to the playing field. And you just can't rein it in and then expect them to be super aggressive and fighting for that medal when that fight is being squeezed out of them by the system. So that is a major problem in Indian sport. When you look at it, the way they completely control and completely dominate. Exactly, so at least need to have that mindset right through and that's it. And of course if they are outrightly very wrong and all that there is. Sure, that's why the system is in place. So moving back to Neeraj Chopra then of course we've talked enough about this actual Olympic. In fact our roundup was completely Neeraj only after all. And then we promised everybody we'll talk about everyone else. But we didn't. But what next for Neeraj, I think that's the important part because like you're talking about planning is important. It's a big year and he has the chance to genuinely make a mark as being one of the best in his discipline ever perhaps. Let me say this thing. It's like last episode I believe or last to last episode when we said about boycott Olympics. It's a baggage. So Neeraj has a small baggage. He won that gold with awareness better misfiring. So I would say the next goal for him because he has achieved a lot in his career. Of course the world championship gold medal. And also it would be to win that global any global tournament for that matter major global tournament with beating better on the field on a given day on equal terms. Which is a sizable ask. And so he should be planning for that because otherwise the next Olympic games we would see Neeraj competing and competing for the medals. But he should be competing for the gold as defending champion. So I'm sure inside his mind and he's a pretty sorted focused character. So inside his mind that's what he wants and he is working towards it. Just that after the Olympic games I felt that we as Indians failed him because we were celebrating him so much that he just lost. Imagine he was running from one felicitation to another during covid times and he got fever. He was that stretched. And then forget all that and one month later everything is settling in. But he's not been left alone to train to compete at IWF Grand Prix event or whatever when the rest of the world had started competing. So and competing why because again peak was Olympics but these guys are competing because they are that's how they taper off and taper in to the next year. And next cycle it's for as far as India or Asian countries are considered Asian game cycle is there and that is an important tournament for probably Neeraj can just walk in and win that tournament. But he has to walk in and throw and win the tournament too. He has to throw above 85 to win. So that's and we have a very strong Pakistani Javelin Tlaver with right breathing down his neck. They are great friends but it's great to see that rivalry too. And if two Asian Tlavers are competing for the Olympic and for a medal at the Olympic games nothing like that. I was hoping that he would be Pakistan. He would be there at the fag end of the Olympic finals but he faded out. So Neeraj would be he's very clear that he wants to win all the medals that he has won in the sense key in the common games again in the Asian games again and plan that year like that. And beyond that but the biggest challenge happens in Paris where he would have to face Wetter and Wetter would be keen to show that who is the boss. Interesting time for him. And also interesting time for athletics Indian Javelin also because the thought was that this would explode into something big for the sport, big specifically for Javelin also. Centres are being planned and all that. Does it work like that? That's the question because we have Javelin Tlavers whom Neeraj is helping too. When you interview Neeraj I had an old friend say that I called him once long back after his junior world title that I went to interview. You talk to him and he's also good for you. He made him sit. So he's like that kind of a person. So Javelin Tlavers are there in the system already but they are here. So Neeraj is still an aberration. So how do you overcome that aberration? That would be the biggest challenge for Indian sport. Basically take it from that 80 mark to the 90 mark. 88 if you can touch you are there in the world. I mean Wetter. But consistently 87-88 plus means that you can win a medal. So that's the target. But we are not getting there our other elite Javelin Tlavers. And that is something that it's not Neeraj's problem. It's the system's problem. But it should be an exciting year for Indian Athletics given these events that you are talking about. Particularly the Asian Games where you get to see a lot of the women athletes also. The younger athletes of the next generation were not perhaps at Olympic level yet but hoping to build up to that. And I think last time we had a really good outing at the Asian Games. Athletics wise. So looking forward to more of the same there. Finally I think because Leslie almost forgot about it. We have to devote five minutes to talking about hockey because for Mr. Raghunandan it's been a big year I think. And he has of course been covering the Olympics and hockey in general. Leslie spoke with him earlier because he's moved back. He's left us and gone back home unfortunately. But Leslie spoke to him on the phone earlier and this is what these guys chatted about. Hi Vibh, thanks for joining in here. So yeah, let's getting straight to the point only. Hockey, your game and good year. I mean Olympic medal. And also the women just missing out on the medal. So we can't, when we look at Indian hockey and this performance we can't look at it in isolation that way also. Because already when they reached the medals reckoning, they were talking about researchers of Indian hockey and saying that the future is bright now that we are back to where we belong. So realistically speaking and assessing what has happened on the field and also around Indian hockey in general as far as building of the future teams and the current structure and such a business. Do you think be sure we can assign a larger meaning to that as far as progress of hockey is concerned? Well as you're speaking right now there's like several tournaments happening in India right now, hockey tournament. And I would say that when it comes to the hockey ecosystem itself, I guess players, coaches, they get enough opportunity to play. They got a lot of opportunity to play through the year despite the fact that there is, I mean last year of course it was a raging pandemic so they had to cancel all national tournaments. But unlike several other sports which have, which have still not held their nationals and which have held their nationals and like made it seem like they've done sports persons a favor by holding them. Hockey is still holding, like they've had the women inter-departmental national which is a new tournament they brought about just to give more girls the chance to play and force more departments to get, give jobs and create sports quota teams for women. They're holding the men's inter-departmental right now, the men's senior national right now, the women's senior national have happened. There is a lot of hockey happening and it's always like, so we've had in the last few years this has constantly been the case. But the question we have to ask is like how many people are actually watching this, how many people are paying attention to this and I mean we constantly demand that these things be shown on TV, on YouTube and they're obviously not going to because it's really tough to show these things and how many people are interested in it. I wanted to also ask about the women's game and later I'll get, yeah, later I'll get into the men's game again once more but what about the women then? Because great performance again but again a period of change now that the head coach who I was right to with them moulding this team is off now, save on Marine and a new person has come in and again it's a cussed team because you have to blend in youngsters and all that so how do you think these things are happening and especially considering the fact that the structure for women's game is much more bad than what it is for the men's game in the country as far as grassroots and... So actually Yenak Shopman is not going to be like new to the team because she was already a part of the team that went to Tokyo she was, in fact she is the iconic image of how she was there in that picture and all the players speak really warmly of her, they all speak about how she is really invested in speaking and trying to help them grow mentally stronger and speak to them and has like an emotional connection with a huge number of them and Shod had a completely different style, even Yenak is Dutch but I guess for whatever reasons their coaching styles are completely different and so it's not going to be a completely new phase I guess this sort of succession plan is quite useful is very helpful for them to have had and besides that when it comes to youngsters, there were a few youngsters in the team and yeah I mean they're going to be more slowly coming up, they unfortunately had to postpone or I don't know yeah they had to postpone for the Junior World Cup which is going to be held in South Africa which would have been actually a really good measure to see where our women's team is again the success of the women's team has as much to do with the great and determination and skill of our players and the tactics that Shod implied as it has to do with the fact that there were several teams that did not have that sort of preparatory time, just did not have that amount of game time and that's why we did really well now how it translates into the bigger picture is like something that we're going to have to wait and see there are a lot more tournaments happening there is a little bit more effort from Hockey India side it's always been they've always tried to like have a little bit of equality but I can't I mean I really can't say like I was speaking to Pritam Sivach and she's a grassroots coach she runs an academy and three of her players, three players that she literally groomed from when they were kids were in the women's team and she was still saying that she doesn't have like an ashrat or she doesn't have a residential facility she basically she's petitioned the state government and the central government for funds for many years they promised her a lot of funds after the medal, sorry not after the medal, my apologies after the semi, when they qualified for the semi-finals and when they went into the bronze medal match just before that there were a lot of promises made which haven't been fulfilled and one really strong point that she made was that instead of like we should like groom these sort of grassroots centres and this is more pertinent for past for girls in our country than it is for boys simply because we are still a really patriarchal regressive society where we don't want women to play sport and if you want them to play sport we want them to play like you know so which is even the only way to break this according to Sivach is like she has a facility where she runs grassroots sport everyone trusts her in that facility she is producing players she obviously has the skill set that coaches and scouts require but because it's not a high performance facility and because we are setting up these high performance facilities in like 3-4 corners of this country they don't want to go so far there are concerns I mean it's still a developing state and when it comes to women's hockey I think we only started paying attention let's be very honest we only started paying attention on like August 8th, 7th or 6th this year of course that's the time where the entire country was interested in that and like you mentioned the promises happened before the bronze match and when the medal didn't come I guess it's forgotten the chase for medal is bought I mean of course in sport when you look at it when you look at chasing the price that's a big deal because that's motivation that is focus that is that is the path that we need to traverse but at the same time it is proving to be a curse for Indian sport that way and getting back to the men's team because you interestingly said that junior World Cup would have been a right measure for the young girls the same thing applies to the men and they played at the World Cup here in Bhubaneswar and they said I mean it was an overwhelming performance that when you consider that they went in as defending champions and favorites so what do you reckon is this a sign of something wrong in that sense because you're looking at Olympic bronze medalist senior team and then we were expecting the junior team to would step into some of the roles that these great players of ours I mean in the senior setup are doing and then they underperform I mean again like I think this is like a bit of a you can have like there's one strong view that all of us can share which is that junior systems are really important and it's really important to groom players at a young age and but this is like there's two views now we can go down which is one is that our earlier junior team which contributed a lot of players to this bronze medal winning team they were like put through a rigorous it was like a single-minded determination by the federation by the coaches by everyone involved in hockey in this country to ensure that that team win the junior World Cup they played in the Australian Hockey League they went and played there that team went and played there they did like so many tours before the World Cup like they had so much game time as just a unit and in that team by the way there were like four players who had turned out for India whereas in this junior team that played a month back there was only one player that was the captain Vivek Sagar Prasad so it's like a two-way street where you there was a single-minded determination to produce this team that is going to go and win the World Cup and then go ahead and like do glorious things for this country the captain of that World Cup winning team by the way has disappeared everyone should know that it was a very good movie I can't even say very good but there was a movie that came out and after that he's completely disappeared and there were others who've done really well and others who've cemented their place in the team for the future but I would say that to ensure that this cycle continues rather than chasing success we should follow the models that say teams like Australia and Belgium yeah I mean I always put Australia away before Belgium simply because Australia been doing this for 25 years right Belgium has been doing this recently but yeah sure so the idea is not to win these things at the junior level but ensure that you create enough quality that can just quickly be pumped up the conveyor of that and that is really the objective of I would say that's the objective they're driving towards winning a junior World Cup is I mean it's really not such a big deal if you think about it in football Nigeria won the under 17 World Cup the most number of times yeah has become close to winning the senior World Cup ever you know so it's really something worth considering on that note because we are at this for time as well so thanks for sharing your inputs here it's as usual very in-depth and well studied so yeah thanks for that thanks for having me thank you man alright so that brings us to a close of this year end special episode of play things of alien forces from Leslie, myself and the entire news click team thanks for watching have a great end to the year and hopefully 2022 will be better for all of us we'll be back early early in the new year just taking a break for a couple of weeks to sort out some back-end and other issues but we'll be back early next year for more play things and for more on all of these stories of course we'll be doing stories throughout visit our website newsclick.in and follow us on all the social media platforms thank you for watching happy new year goodbye


As a speaker, sometimes you're just trying to share information with the audience, to educate them. On other occasions, though, your goal may go a little further. What if you feel so passionately about a topic that you don't just want the audience to know about it, but to do something with that knowledge as well? That, my friends, is the realm of persuasion. In this video, we'll talk about the basics of persuasive speaking, including what it means to persuade, the functions and types of persuasive speaking, and picking topics for persuasive speeches. Let's get started. In the simplest terms, persuasive speaking involves attempting to get someone to change in attitude, belief, value, or behavior. Pretty much any time that you're trying to convince someone to do something differently, give you something, change their mind, or generally see things your way, you're engaging in persuasion. Persuasive speaking typically serves one of two functions, to convince or to actuate a response. The aim of a persuasive speech to convince is more internal than external. The persuader is trying to influence the attitudes, beliefs, or values of the audience, but not really asking people to do anything specific. Speeches to actuate, on the other hand, work to get the audience to behave in a certain way, or take specific action steps as a result of the speech. Asking the audience to believe that the Apollo moon landing was faked is a speech to convince. Asking the audience to join you in picketing NASA to demand an admission that the moon landing was fake is a speech to actuate. There are also a few different types of persuasive speeches, each of which involves a differing proposition. Persuasive speeches involving a proposition of fact deal with something that is true or false, like global warming, the connection between football and brain disease, or the existence of Bigfoot. A proposition of fact could also relate to whether or not something will happen in the future, like whether a major earthquake will hit California in the next 10 years. A proposition of value involves an evaluation of whether something is right or wrong, good or bad, or moral or immoral. Arguing that the audience should oppose the death penalty for prisoners because it is morally wrong would involve a proposition of value. Finally, in speeches involving a proposition of policy, a speaker is advocating for a specific change in behavior or actions. Asking people to recycle or to vote for a change in the state law regarding motorcycle helmets would concern propositions of policy. Much like informative speeches, pretty much anything could potentially be a persuasive speech topic. Sometimes persuasive topics are pretty lofty, like climate change, capital punishment, legalizing marijuana, or assisted suicide. You could also deliver a compelling persuasive speech on a less dramatic topic, though, like peanut versus plain M&Ms, or why people should stop paying money for music by Taylor Swift because it's awful. The most important things to remember when picking a persuasive topic are can I speak enthusiastically about this topic? Can I support my arguments with effective evidence? And can I relate this topic to the audience enough to make them care? If the answer to all three of those questions is yes, then you probably have a winner. OK, so now you have an understanding of the basics of persuasion, what it is, the functions and types, and considerations for picking a persuasive topic. We'll save the discussion of the persuasive strategies and organizational patterns for another time. That's what we in show biz call a cliffhanger. Don't miss it.


Every now and then something flies under the radar and This one did for me because I hadn't really been paying too much attention to What was happening with fire emblem because there was a recent conversation around it for the 30th anniversary called fire emblem castle Conversations on the official Nintendo YouTube channel. I finally caught up on it. It's about an hour and four minutes long and somebody pointed out Over on Twitter some interesting things that I guess I just didn't pay enough attention to fire emblem to notice and this deals with three houses in particular, but What we're talking about is how Nintendo might have Potentially leaked either new DLC for fire emblem three houses or potentially a fire emblem three houses sequel Now a sequel to fire emblem three houses won't really be too far-fetched You can argue DLC won't be either although we have reached a point where we're so far out from the original 2019 release that to me DLC almost would seem a little misplaced compared to a new game and They were pumping up fire emblem games pretty quickly back in the 3ds days So if I am of three houses essentially being the best-selling game In the franchise it wouldn't be all too shocking to see a new Gamecom or this now this again was pointed out with death chaos 25 over on Twitter About some interesting things that are in this video that potentially Nintendo Maybe is either teasing or and or they just didn't realize they were using footage that they shouldn't be using yet Now before we get into this I want to remind you we are giving away a 99 dollar Nintendo switch e-shop gift card To enter head down to the description or the pinned comment There'll be a link and there'll be a bunch of different ways to enter subscribing to the channel following on Twitter I think Instagram maybe I don't know. There's a whole bunch of different different ways down there to enter So I wish you guys luck on that when it will be announced at the end of the month. All right Let's get into this first. It says during the new fire emblem The FEH anniversary interview video. There is a very short clip of the war phase Grandor intro cutscene. This is obviously a cutscene that technically originally existed in Fire Emblem 3 houses and Most notably about this cutscene is it's entirely different from the one that's actually in the game Elder guard and Claude have new models new costumes And then they should point out some examples of this and then this is a few details that really stuck out to me Is that the new elder guard model seems unusually high quality compared to the original model in Fire Emblem 3 houses? Like it's definitely a step above She's also smiling and has a happy looking expression in the new one Well, it's entirely serious in the current and as you're looking at these differences as I show them on screen what I what I find fascinating about this is That there's all this wild speculation around this because some people think oh, maybe this is just from a beta version of the game, but typically It's easier to believe it's a potential leak because Nintendo has actually accidentally leaked a number of things over the year in very similar fashion Super Smash Bros. Ultimate as an example There's actually been accidental leaks by Nintendo themselves of Terry and Simon Belmont that people kind of speculated and figured out before they were announced and Some people just dismissed it as oh Nintendo would never do this So Nintendo doesn't make these kind of mistakes But it can't happen and when you're making the 30th anniversary Conversation video and you're just going through a bunch of files on a computer and grabbing clips and all this stuff It's possible you actually accidentally grab the wrong clip and end up with something that's much higher quality and much different than the original And when that happens and the costumes are different as well It leads you to believe that Nintendo's working on something now them working on something new for Fire Emblem again Not a surprise. They absolutely should be working on something new for Fire Emblem but I think the idea that there's some new DLC and or a sequel in the works is Probably happening. I mean I fully suspect there's a sequel of Fire Emblem Three Houses Fire Emblem Three Houses is an excellent game. If you love Fire Emblem, you will probably love Three Houses Now there's some aspects of it that some people might not like The school as an example I know there's some people in particular that really are too fond of the school aspect of the game And I remember when I was live streaming it one thing that was pointed out by a few I don't know if I want to call them switch haters But maybe just Some highly critical people that expect better of video games pointed out that Fire Emblem Three Houses Maybe wasn't the most graphically Pleasing game and it's interesting because it kind of blends an anime style with realistic and When you get to the photo realistic part, which is often the environments They're pretty bland and blurry and not that impressive But that's kind of the way Fire Emblems always been it's definitely the best-looking Fire Emblem in just overall Presentation wise we've had in the series, but also it's like the only one in HD So, I mean there really isn't two other there's not really any other fair comparison unless you just like certain art styles better But I I do think that having cleaner models a better-looking world is entirely possible The more time the Fire Emblem team can spend working on The switch and the switch hardware and with their engine and all that the cleaner and better It should look the next time around so in theory the next Fire Emblem Game should look better I mean if you even think about what's happened in the past, you know We had the Xenobite Chronicles 2 come out and then we had the DLC come out and the DLC ended up looking and Performing better than the original game So clearly the more time these studios get with the switch the better and better they can make games look So I do think that It being higher resolution it being cleaner cut in different costumes Kind of suggests that there is a sequel in the works again Entirely speculative here, but like this actually happened This is footage that was not present in the original game is different than the original game different costumes different expressions Higher quality models it makes you think you know what maybe something's in the work And again, we can't dismiss the fact that this could just be an oopsie Could be from a beta version of the game But it just seems a little strange since the moment in this cutscene that's happening in the original game Wouldn't make sense with the current with the with the facial expressions and the costumes they're wearing and while there's a lot of Costumes in pirate mode 3 houses. They've never really affected the cutscenes for these characters So even if they are wearing something different in the game the cutscene happens and there's just wearing You know the same garb. They don't really have their new costume garb on so again a lot of speculation here a lot of interesting things Yes, it's entirely possible. Nintendo did just accidentally tease because again Nintendo has a history beyond smash bros of accidentally teasing like this if you're willing to look into it I apologize. You probably hear my kids goofing off in the background But anyways, thank you guys so much for tuning in. I am the tanner of a dance from the tenor prime And I'll catch you guys in the next video


okay here we go yes Psalm 34 was one I will bless the Lord at all times his praise shall continually be in my mouth my soul shall make its boast in the Lord the humble shall hear of it and be glad oh magnify the Lord with me and let us exalt his name together I sought the Lord and he heard me and delivered me from all my fears they looked to him and were radiant and their faces were not ashamed this poor man cried out and the Lord heard him and saved him out of all his troubles the angel of the Lord encamps all around those who fear him and delivers them o taste and see that the Lord is good blessed is the man who trusts in him right just want us to focus on the verse one where we notice something there you see that the psalmist says I will bless the Lord at all times his praise shall my soul shall you know so thrice we see in those two verses he says he talks about praising he says it's it's like an act of his will he says I will bless the Lord his praise shall continually be in my mouth my soul shall make its boast in the Lord right so today I don't know whether it's you know what kind of a season or what kind of a phase you are in whether you're having a good day bad day but the psalmist says he makes a statement and it's an expectation for us he says I will bless the Lord at all times I will make a choice and make a conscious decision to bless the Lord at all times different times whether I'm feeling down whether I'm up his praise shall continually be in my mouth and my soul shall make his make its boast in the Lord we are exalting the Lord magnifying the Lord we're boasting in the Lord and this is not just coming out of our mouth but from our soul from our mind our will our emotions everything put together there is a boast and it says that his praise shall continually be in my mouth and my soul shall make its boast in the Lord so I just want to encourage us maybe challenges today to with this with these verses to make that our declaration as well where we can say I will bless the Lord at all times you know today I will bless the Lord whether I feel like it emotionally or not but I'm choosing and I'm making a conscious choice of my will to bless the Lord and even as we do that you know we will even as we make his praise to be continually pouring out of our mouths of our lips and I'm sure that we will be able to experience the truth experience the presence the power of the one that we are praising of the truth that we are hearing of the one whom we are magnifying above the mountains maybe seem to surround us about the challenges that we seem to be facing right so let's do that let's begin to just even as we pray let's begin to just praise the Lord or bless the Lord hallelujah we thank you Lord we thank you even as we come to your presence Lord we even as we've read your word we choose to bless your name we choose to praise you we choose to ensure that your praise is upon our lips continually Lord we choose to lift up your name and magnify your name Lord much bigger than the storms much bigger than the mountains Lord we choose to elevate Lord lift up and magnify and exalt your name God above everything else God we bless your name Jesus we bless your name God just go ahead and just lift up the name of Jesus Lord we thank you for who you are God yes Lord we thank you for the revelation of who you are Lord that we have received in us in our hearts Lord even as we Lord look in look into your word oh God you see that you are the king of all kings God that you are the ultimate sovereign king the one who rules over all one who's kingdom whose domain extends and expands and you rule over all the nations and so God we we magnify your name we agree oh God that this is who you are we acknowledge Lord this is who you are we thank you God in in what seems to be like difficult situations Lord Lord you bring out the victory out of the midst of them God we thank you that you're the God who turns around things God even when we see that things are so bleak and so dark God you turn around things for us God in the midst of what seems to be like failures God you turn around and Lord you turn it around for our good Master God that that is what we see and so we we choose to praise you we choose to declare who you say you are we choose to praise you and say that you are our deliverer we choose to praise you and say that you are our provider we choose to declare that you are our peace our Prince of peace our Shalom Lord we choose to declare that you are our anchor Lord we choose to declare that You are the living Word. Lord, we choose to declare that there's nothing that can exalt itself above the knowledge of Christ and everything that tries to exalt, we bring it down in the mighty name of Jesus.  You are our sure foundation. Lord, we declare this morning that You are our rock and our refuge, O God. We praise You. We thank You for who You are, God. Yes, when we exalt Your name, we exalt Your name, or we lift up Your name, Lord. And yes, Lord, as the Psalm is declared, O taste and see that the Lord is good. O taste and see that the Lord is good. Lord, we pray that our walk with You will not be something that is devoid of experience, God. Lord, we pray this morning that even right now that there will be an experienced God, that we will tangibly experience God in our minds, in our hearts, Lord, in our circumstances, in our surroundings, that we will taste, that we will experience and know that You are good. We thank You for Your goodness. We thank You for Your holiness, God. We thank You for Your righteousness and Your faithfulness, God. We thank You. We bless Your name today. We give You thanks, Lord. We give You all the praise and all the glory, Lord, even as we magnified Your name, be magnified, be lifted up, God. We thank You. We give You all the praise and all the glory. In Jesus' matchless name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Hey, welcome to all those who joined us now during the prayer. Okay. So, yeah, we're going to continue from where we left off last class, right? And yeah, I think we almost at the end of the first section where we've been looking at leadership in transition. And as a last section, we were looking at how we need to maintain our strength, our personal strength, which means we need to be renewed spiritually. We need to be growing. We need to take some time to rest and be refreshed, right? Even to exercise and make sure we are in good health and strength, right? One of the things that, you know, which is very, very, which can really change our internal atmosphere, if I may use the word, is to be thankful, right? To be grateful and to make a list of all the things that you can be thankful for. And it's a great exercise. You will never, you see that, you know, when you look at the small things and even the minute things that you can be thankful to God for, right? And as we list down for the blessings that we have received, as we list down those things that, you know, those times when he has come through, you see that it becomes a very inexhaustible list, just goes on and on, just to see that. And that changes us, that changes the whole atmosphere. If we are thinking negative, just to go over, just to reflect about, reflect on what God has done and who he is, and to be thankful for it, you know, to verbalize it, to, to open our mouth and just say, or maybe even to write down and say, God, I thank you for this. I thank you that you did this. I thank you that you're continuing to do this. I thank you that you will do it. You know, when we, when we make that list, it's, it's something that renews us spiritually. I remember reading a testimony of one person who came under such a very strong, you know, oppressive spiritual attack and, you know, and he was just, he couldn't move.  And this happened the whole day, sunrise to sunset. He'll just be there and so heavy. And the Lord spoke to him and said, you know, just think about those times, that, think about those times that I've come through for you. And, and, and he was trying to recollect, he was trying to remember it was so difficult for him. And finally, he did that. He thought about those times. He thought about those things that he, that he could be thankful to the Lord for. And he started mentioning his, he started, you know, speaking it out, and he started to bring to remembrance. And then he realized that his mind was so clouded that with the emotions with, with this whole levy oppression that he couldn't actually remember. You know, he was finding it very difficult to recall those things that those things that happened in the past and that he could be thankful for. But, but he did. So, you know, it started with just one little thing. And it came with such great effort, but he thought about it. And then he, he spoke to the Lord about it. And then one by one, you know, like a, like a stream, it just, like a flood even just came and then all these thoughts and, and he started to thank the Lord one after the other. And then he realized soon after that he was just walking out of that oppression. It had broken through, he had broken through, and he was delivered from that oppression. So it's, it's so powerful when we testify to ourselves about what the Lord has done. And the psalmist does that, right? He says, why are you cast down for my soul? Hope in God. And I will yet trust him. So, so that's one way of renewing our strengths, virtually, you know, at our lowest moments to, to think about what the Lord has done and to thank the Lord for what he has done, right? To keep our vision refreshed, you know, that's another thing. We, when we're talking about the vision, we were saying that, well, vision leaks and, you know, to the, it can happen to the best of us, right? Because we get bogged down with details or we get overwhelmed by the, by the tasks.  So, and, and for us to intentionally think about the vision and about the details of it, about the, you know, even those moments when you receive that vision from God and how it grew and how, you know, how the Lord added to it will really keep our strength, refresh our strength, right? So, keep our vision refreshed. Okay. The last section is in this leading through transition is about passing on the bait and on the turn. I still can't figure out how to say that word. But passing on, basically to raise up others, other leaders to whom you can pass on to whom, who can actually carry on the vision, right? Carry on the vision. So, this is something that I remember hearing pastors say over and over again, your success in ministry is incomplete if you do not raise successors, you know. Well, it's great if tomorrow the Lord comes and everything is fine and, and, you know, we're all, everything is wrapped up, ministry year on earth is done. But the thing is, should the Lord tarry, right? And should we depart before that, the work that we've done or the ministry that we have done should not come to an end, you know, with that, with our departure. So, success in ministry is incomplete if we do not raise up others who will, who will run the race with the vision, will, with the mission and, and continue the work, right? The day you, yeah, I just read this out. The day you begin any ministry, I'm sorry, I'm not sharing the notes. Let me just share that. Okay. Yeah. So, the day you begin any ministry is the day you should start planning your departure. So, the plan of God or the desire of God is that what he's put in our hearts, what he's given us, what he showed us, it could be the revelation, it could be his anointing, the gifting, he wants to, he wants that to be passed on to the next generation. He wants that to be, to be the, a new benchmark, a new water level for the next generation, right? So that, you know, it's almost like, like somebody said, you know, that the next generation will stand on the shoulders of the previous generation. So that becomes, you know, the, that becomes level ground for them, that they are at a elevated place, and they don't have to start from zero, but they're actually at a higher place now, regarding the revelation, regarding whatever God has poured out into our hearts, right? So that, that requires us to pass on and whatever in the natural that we need to do, whatever practical things that we need to do in order to pass on. And I think the best place for us to do that is, is our family to start with, family members, maybe just one person, maybe a few, and of course, you know, with the ministry, with colleagues, with people, with other leaders whom we are raising up, definitely, right? So this is what we see in Psalm 71, versus 18 and 19.  Now also, when I am old and gray-headed, oh God, do not forsake me until I declare your strength to this generation, your power to everyone who is to come. So he's saying, Lord, you know, right from my youth, you have taught me, and I've been declaring your works, I've been declaring who you are, what you do, till today, right? Now, I am old. So he's no more a young person, he's old, he's gray-headed, and he says, Lord, this is my desire. But do not forsake me, give me that strength, give me that, maybe the opportunity and the ability so that I can declare your strength, declare what your wondrous works, your abilities, to this generation. Okay, so to who are, who to my peers, to this generation, and your power to everyone who is to come, right? So something that is passed on. So the thing is to, you know, the challenge is to raise up two or three generations after us, which means the, you know, the youth of this day and the younger, the younger children who see today, right, to pass on to them. This is what Paul writes to Timothy, second Timothy chapter two, he says, you therefore my son, be strong in the grace, that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that you have heard from me, among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.  So he's saying, Timothy, you teach it to others, right? And in turn, these faithful people are going to be, who will be able to teach others also. So yes, that's God's desire that, that what he's put in our hearts is passed on. Okay. And we see that this is a, this is a characteristic, important characteristic of a Christian leader, of spiritual leadership, that God raises up people, God, it's, he puts in a vision, he gives the grace, abilities to call everything he puts in a person. And so this, so that we can pass on what he has revealed to us to the next generation and to the next. So some of the things that we can do is to impart the vision, values and culture. Now these are things where we take many, you know, even in the context of a local church, in the context of a ministry, you know, even in the context of a secular organization, right, to impart that vision, to impart those values, to impart the culture, right? To continue to provide direction and to point the way ahead. That's important responsibility. And then to step aside at the right time. And so we can nurture, to cheer the people on the team on, right, where we leave a legacy, right? So, so this means that one needs to plan intentionally. Again, we come back to that word plan, which requires us to partner with God, look at plan as something that we partner with God, look at, you know, a life plan when we say it's not devoid, it's not disconnected from God, right? It's not disconnected from the Lord. It's actually dreaming with him, right? The thing is to have, you know, for a, it can be really overwhelming to come to the understanding that God has big plans for us, like plans that have not, eyes have not seen, ears have not heard, like we read in First Corinthians chapter two, that God has these things in store for us that he wants to reveal through the Holy Spirit. And he is revealing, he is unfolding those things for us in every season, like in every phase, every season of our lives, he's unfolding that. And yes, so that we might walk in it, we might walk in them and fulfill that, right? So well, God has good plans for us, God has big plans for us. So for us to make a note of that, you know, to approach God, with whom we have access 24 seven, to sit down and do that and to say, Oh God, this is, let's say, you know, I have X number of years, I think. So, Lord, what do you want me to do, right? And to, and to plan that out.  And maybe we can do it in, you know, chunks of time, like four years, or five years, and 10 years or so. Because the Lord, you know, if you look back, it's surprising that there could be a pattern, like how the Lord has worked. And I know that this could be different for different people, but they could be very well be a pattern in which the Lord has worked, the Lord has changed seasons in our lives, and so on. So Isaiah 46 was 9 and 10. Remember the former things of old, for I am God, and there is no other. I am God, and there is none like me, declaring the end from the beginning.  Just talks about the greatness of God, talks about the omniscience of God declaring the end from the beginning. So we are sitting with one who has infinite wisdom, and knowledge, and understanding, and to receive, and to, and for the fact that he has, you know, great plans for us, his thoughts for us are to give us a hope in the future. So the situation we are in, the circumstance we are in, you know, sometimes we look at the difficulty of it, or the never-ending, you know, sometimes the cycle of it, and saying, you know, how and when is this going to end, and will there be anything beyond this? You know, the thing is to go to God because his plans are to give us a hope in the future. The thoughts that he has for us are good thoughts, the plans that he has for us are good plans, not of calamity, but of peace and prosperity, right, to sit and to write down, and to say, okay, God, you know, this is a plan. So we know that a plan is good, but we also, you know, like we saw, a plan is only as good as it is being executed. We could have the best of plans, but we need to intentionally begin to walk in it. Now, sometimes what we do is, okay, I have a plan from God, and I know that God will make it happen, and that's it. You know, we just, sometimes we drift along, or just we're just coasting. But the thing is that we need to do something. We need to intentionally pursue the plans and the purpose of God. Does anyone have a question? Okay, Louis, I think your mic is unmuted. So I just heard something. I'm just going to mute your mic. I hope that's okay. Sorry about that. No, no, no problem. No, no, no, no, okay. So, I just like us to do a small exercise. Okay. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to, I think we might have done this. I don't know if it's this class, you might have done this, but we're just going to, you know, however old you are, maybe you are, let's say, 30. Okay. And you just take your lifespan. Okay. Let's say, how old do you want to be? How long do you want to be on this earth? Let's take a very positive estimate. Okay. For those of us who are very positive, you take it as 100, or, you know, what maybe, what do you think? Is 100 okay to live to be 100? And how many of you are saying okay to that? Can I see your hands? 100? Wow. Okay. Great. Awesome. Let's do it. Let's go with 100 then. Come on. Let's do it. Okay. Okay, I see Thorin's hand. I see a lot of hands going up. Awesome. So let's go with 120. Yeah. I think that's the scriptural number. 120. Yes, that is something God said. Yeah. So go with 120. So, but this is what we'd like to do, right? So if you are, okay, let's say Srikumar has put 120. So Srikumar, how old are you, if I may ask you now? For today. Okay. So Srikumar would say, only if my body and mind is functioning well, yeah, that's a given, Beth. That's what we're saying. 120 minus 42. Okay. So which is 78, is it? Yeah. Okay. 78. So Srikumar, so, years. So 78, you just break it down to how many seconds, you know, you can get 78 into, that is 365 days, right? And you get the number of hours into 60. You get the number of minutes into 60. You get the number of seconds, right? So I think I see Avni's hand. So Avni, you have something to say and question. I said, okay, 100. For 100, I raise my hand. Oh, yeah. Okay. Awesome. Okay. Okay. So let's do this.  Okay.  So just find out how many seconds that is. Okay. So do the math. So we're doing, you know, if it's 78, so we're just taking the calculator out. Yeah. So 78 into 365, that's 28,470 days into 60. That's 1708200 hours into, sorry, is that in, yeah, into 60. Okay. So we have a number and that's the number of seconds that we have. Okay. So just put that for yourself. So we can see it. Okay. And as we look at these seconds, we see that some of the seconds are ticking away. Right. It's actually, you know, reducing, not to make us fearful or paranoid. But for us to know that, yeah, you know, this time, this lifetime is a great resource, is a gift God has given us. And for us to know him, you know, he has drawn us, we have responded, we know him, we responded to his love, we know him. And so it's only right that we find out, or we choose to walk with him and say, okay, God, these seconds of my life, I want to live for you. Right. And so when we say live for you, the Lord would want us to do, like many different things and many different spheres. It could be in business, like what we've been saying, it could be in government, it could be in, you know, as a working professional, it could be something that he wants to start and wants you to start and do. So it's never too, you're never too old to start something. We have examples right there in scripture, Apostle Paul being one of them. So, or you're never too young to start something. So irrespective of whether you're old or young or somewhere in between, just figure out how many seconds do you have and plan with God and say, God, you know, these many seconds I have of my life left.  I want to sit and plan with you.  And if you can break it down into, if you look back and see a pattern, okay, I look back into my life and I saw that there was a pattern for every four years, really. Things happened in, you know, in chunks of four years every season. And it was, it was amazing to just look back and what started all that. I mean, for me, and I'm just saying, this is, this is how it happened for me. What started all that was a dream. So I had this dream where I saw, you know, certain people whom I knew in the dream, certain people in ministries and some pastors, and basically I was actually in a line to get prayed for. So I reached the end of the line. The pastor was actually there praying at the start of the line. By the time I went there, it was some other person. But then this is what that person said.  And that was the end of the dream. So I was really puzzled, very intrigued by it. And I just went back and checked. And I just saw that it was so, you know, when it came to education, when it came to, you know, work and all that, it was in, you know, as a pattern for four years. And I'm not saying that God can, you know, of course, he's, he can, he's above that he can change things and all that. And he's, it's in his hands, right? But I see that. And so, so it was easier to, you know, sit down and, and talk to him and say, and ask God, God, what, what next? What is it that you have? And sometimes I've seen that, okay, it could be if not for it could be eight years, but then, you know, there's something that he's adding, something that is changing. So, so yeah, so for, for your life, for your life plan, you know, you can dream with God and say, okay, God, you know, I'm just breaking it down, you know, you're free to change it, but five years, maybe 10 years. And what do I need to do to prepare, right? Maybe the five years, it's like, you know, preparatory stage as a student, and maybe in the next five years, God, you know, what, what are the things that you want to bring into my life? And maybe for those who are single, maybe you're looking at, you're looking at preparing for marriage, getting ready for marriage. I'm sorry, there's a bit of a firecracker's going off outside. I don't know what the celebration is. So yeah, so maybe you're thinking of marriage, maybe you're thinking of, you know, starting a family and all that. So, preparation for that, right? Preparing for that emotionally, spiritually, physically, in a materially, all that. So it doesn't, you know, just, we're not getting into any season blindfolded, but we have the one who creates times and seasons, and it's who changes times and seasons, and who's with us, who's our guide. So let's walk with him, you know, let's talk to him, and to see from him, and, and prepare ourselves ahead, spiritually, relationally. And there's so many things, you know, that we can do to prepare ourselves and be equipped for every season. Okay, so, so that is something that we can look at. Okay, so we've come to the end of that section. So we go into the next section, which is winning with people. Okay, any questions, anything that you or me may want to add to what we have seen in this section? Yes, go ahead, Louis. I want to share something. Good morning, sir. I just wanted clarity for, let's say you're starting a ministry. And what timeframe views do you look at to start putting your exit plan in place, considering the fact that most of the people that will come in at the initial stage, speaking to catch a bit of vision with the spirit and all that. So at what particular time do you start putting that plan into effect? Yeah, so, you know, having heard from people who are, you know, who are really experienced in ministry and they've been pioneers. So the thing is, you know, when you, when you talk about an exit plan, well, I wouldn't use that word, but then you just transition into a different role.    And then you are also racing up leaders and taking people from, from where they are, you know, to where they should be and immature, you know, all that. And, and they're also running with you alongside. And so you're raising them up. And this happens from really from day one. And, and as you go through the different phases of ministry, and how the timeframe could be different. Right. Like for, you know, that we've heard of people who, for them, the growth, you know, was very, very quick. And it's not that it was, it was, you know, it was, they had to do some gimmicks or anything. But then that is how it was, you know, God did so much in that, maybe in six years or so. So everything grew and everything was, was really fast. But it need not be the same for everyone. But for us to recognize that, okay, right now, we are in this stage is very important to discern and say, okay, right now, the first three years or the first five years, you know, we are in this phase. Now, now it's time to step up things, because we are entering into another phase of ministry, and so on. So for us to be, you know, for one to be aware of that is very important. But really, to, to start from day one, and, and slowly as the ministry grows, and as the, you know, the, the sphere of influence of the ministry grows through the ages, through the years, sorry. Then you begin to, of course, delegate, you begin to, you see people who have been caught on with the vision, and you begin to play a more of a counseling, or a mentoring kind of a role and providing the oversight at the same time, not totally disconnected. But, but the day to day functioning of the, of the ministry, or some of the decisions, you know, you've, you've just laid down the principles, you've laid down the process.  So, so that is how it really unfolds. Yeah. So, but we can't really, you know, put the timeframe and say it's five years, six years. Hope that helps. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Anything else that you want to add, you know, we looked at, if you look at the first section, we looked at what leadership is, we looked at, you know, a vision, we looked at values culture, we looked at organization, how to organize ourselves and organizing our finances, people, ministry, time. And then lastly, we looked at reading through transition and some of the, you know, we looked at some experiential thoughts there. So we looked at that also. Okay. Okay. If there's nothing, feel free to add, you know, at any point, we'll move on. Right. We'll look at the second section, which is winning with people. Okay.  Right. We are serving in ministry. We are serving people, the people of God. So people are central part of what ministry is about. Right. If you look at, not just ministry, if you look at anything else, you know, whatever it involves technology, it involves maybe even manufacturing and, you know, IT and so on. We see that the end, at the end of it all, you know, it is for the betterment of people, it is for consumption by people. It is for the betterment of, you know, maybe the services, the facilities, so many things, but it involves people. Right. Not just as end users, but also as people who work together to make that possible. Okay. So when we were looking at Christian leadership, one other important aspect to think about and really be, you know, to remind ourselves that it's about people. Who are we influencing? It's people. Right. To have the right perspective about people is very important. Right. Otherwise, we will be using, manipulating people. And like someone said, you know, I love ministry, but it's just that people are getting in the way, you know. So we might be, you know, of different temperament in a unique way as God has made us, but whatever it is. Right. You know, we might have a, let's say, a bad experience, a broken image, but then we have this redemption and restoration in Christ. Right. So we come to a place of wholeness and health emotionally. So we can relate to people. We can engage with people in the best way possible. Right. So I'm just reading this verse again, which we read earlier, which is in 1 Peter chapter five, where Peter writes, and he says, shepherd the flock of God. Okay. So shepherd the flock of God. So we realize, we understand that it's the flock of God. Right. People who belong to God, people who are created in His image. Right. If they are not believers, well, they are still created in the image of God, but it's just that the image is broken, tarnished. It's shattered because of sin. Right. And people who are believers again, in the works in progress, where that is being restored in Christ, spiritually, you are made whole. But, you know, emotionally and otherwise, it is, it is being, that image is being restored. Right. Well, 2nd Corinthians 3 talks about how we are being transformed into that same image, right. The image of the Lord from glory to glory, as we take a glimpse of His glory. Right. So the important thing here, shepherd the flock of God.  Right. Who are you being placed with oversight over? You know, so shepherd the flock of God. And it says here, serving as overseers. Okay. Serving as overseers. So understand that the leadership is about influence, influencing people for their good. And it is a service. It's serving as overseers, not by compulsion, but willingly, not for dishonest gain, but eagerly. Right. Not for dishonest gain, not out of compulsion. And this is, this is our heart's posture, even as we provide oversight, even as we serve willingly. Right. It's the flock of God. Verse 3 says, not as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock. Okay. So not as being lords. That does not mean that you do not, you know, bring in, speak the truth in love. It does not mean that, you know, there's no communication or with regard to discipline or change or being firm. It doesn't mean that. But the thing is that you're not being lords over, you're not being boss over, bossing over those entrusted to you. You know, that again talks about whether it's in a formal way or informal way.  Right. Which means God has a hand in it. And it's much bigger. The, you know, the, even this whole thing of leading people is much bigger than we thought. Right. That God has entrusted to you being examples to the flock. And when the chief shepherd appears, you will just see the crown of glory that does not fade away. So while on the earth, there might be, you know, there might be approval of man, they may not be, you know, there might be recognition, they may not be, but then surely when the chief shepherd appears, surely there is the crown of glory that it does not fade away. You know, so there is recognition and there is reward from the chief shepherd who has entrusted the flock to you. So really, the reward comes from him. Right. So the central thing is that it's people that we are serving and they are the flock of God, they're being entrusted with this leadership and, and we lead as being examples to the flock. So wherever you turn, you know, there, when it comes to leadership, well, people are going to be there. Right. So it's time to get comfortable with that aspect, saying that, okay, as a leader, as a Christian leader, I'm going to be dealing with people. So what are some of those things that I need to, I need to, you know, change in my perspective, right, when it comes to people, there are some things that, you know, some of us maybe are unnatural at this, relating to people, maybe some of us are not. And maybe we could, we could grow in that area of relating to people and, you know, leading people and so that, you know, whatever we are doing is effective and it's a win for both, for both us and for those who are being led. Okay. So we'll take a break now and when we come back at 11, we'll, we'll continue with this, you know, winning with people the second section. Right. Okay. We'll take a break now.