remote enable stream remote. Do we want that disabled? I think you want it enabled don't you? That was my assumption. All right well we should be going live now we were live. Okay let's push that recording button. All right chat if anybody is hanging out watching track one feel free to start talking in the track one channel on discord. You're also welcome to start giving us some questions over in the track one live QA channel. In the meantime, let's introduce our guests for right now. We have Olik and we have Poon tester or I'm sure you too will come up with better ways to explain how to pronounce your names. But thank you very much for joining us today. Give us the name of the talk that you did and we'll start asking you some silly questions about it. Okay yeah so the the talk was room for escape. A scribbling outside the lines of template security. A talk around content matchman systems and in particular the template engines used in these systems and how we were able to break out of boxes if you have any questions about the talk or anything else maybe he would can help you. Just feel free to ask to ask anything. How do you like your your handle pronounced? I pronounce it Poon tester. Poon tester? I don't know if that's some better. Yeah I think that we just entered into one of the mighty converse arguments in the hacker world if it's Poon or Poon. So we're gonna go with Poon because that sounds a little bit better.  About myself? Yeah we'll click over to you. I'm a security researcher for already more than 10 years and working for a macro focus Spotify and I'm happy to to have chance to work with Poon tester for a couple years already and it's our fourth chart research and I'm happy with these results and hope to get something similar in the next years. Absolutely. Before I will retire. Yeah so that's a good segue actually to talk about while we're waiting for people to come up with some good questions for you. Tell us a little bit about some of the this is definitely not your first talk here at DEF CON. So just briefly give us some background on where you came from and what the earlier talks were so that people know how to reach back and find you in the archives and then maybe touch on how does this one feel different than the other talks that you've done? Okay so I think the first one that we did together was Friday the 13th Jason attacks. No actually it was sorry it was J&J injections it was first one. Did we present at DEF CON or just a black hat? Just a black hat you're right. So the first one that we presented together was the J&J injection. The full title was something like J&J injection. Dreamland to RC something. Yeah like a trip into RC I don't know I don't remember the title anymore. That was around J&J injection in Java world there are ecosystems which was then used for many of the visualization gadgets so that was a good one and then before that one I presented at DEF CON one with Dennis Cruz and Aifkang that was called resting in your laurels will get you pwned or pooned. Yeah that was a nice one so the first one that we did together was this about J&J injection attacks then the one the first one that when we presented at DEF CON and we had to drink our shots as newbie speakers was this one about Jason attacks Jason digitalization attacks. Gotcha. And then last year we presented singles I know SSO wars the token menace where we presented an attack on SAML implementation in Microsoft stacks that was flowing in the net framework and now this year we repeat again as a team with this one. Excellent we really appreciate that you both came out to do that so you two did as we're waiting for people to jump in with more questions you did present me with one that I'm going to sneakily slide in here as if somebody else asked it. The vulnerabilities that you disclose all seem to require that the attacker have user level access to the system is that true is that a hurdle for most oh see now I'm talking over you so your turn you go. Okay I think it's mostly true it still depends on applications on configuration or specific configuration but to be able to perform such attacks attackers should be able to create or at least modify some template and in most cases it's at least user level account for sure point it's just user level account it's it's default configuration and just user level account any user can do this for other applications it still depends sometimes it's just user level sometimes you need to be like writer and or some other roles more powerful roles sometimes even administrator so one requirement for our attack should be able to manage this the plates or ISPX pages in case of share point. Okay so maybe not the minimum is just they have to be able to to deal with the share point side they have to be able to control that but it's not necessarily that yeah so for sure point case so for sure a point it's a bit simpler any user can can can have access to all private site and can manage it it's your your your site and you can use to this at least this site for performing attacks for other applications yes it's it depends on configuration depends on the permission for specific projects for specific sub sites and other things. Okay so I was going to add that our assumption in this talk is that we were able or the attacker were able to control the templates right so and then our research was around breaking outside of those sandboxes so in a similar way that we may present something around breaking mitigations for buffer overflows but our research was not how to find those buffer overflows in the first place so I'm saying that because apart from being able to control the contents of the template different vectors may include things like server side template injection or maybe for example if there is a cross-site scripting vulnerability in that page you can use that to fool a victim into submit a malicious template in your behalf or maybe there is a cross-site request for JD that you can have used in order to manipulate or modify their template content so we didn't really care about how you were able to get access to the content it may be because you have access to like all examples and their explain is then the normal case for example in things like SharePoint or a wiki for example where you can edit your own articles and things like that but maybe in other systems some of the ones that we reported like office for example they were vulnerable to server side template injection and and for example in some cases we were able to request trial accounts in content matching systems that were deployed on the cloud like in server software as a service architectures and with those trial accounts we were able we were able to phone those servers and compromise the underlying service so in a big way you've given us another step in our chain another tool to escalate how much damage we can do once we have a foothold yeah exactly excellent what what level of access were you using to get that remote remote code execution were you just a regular user enabled to escalate that far so in some cases like Alexander explained for SharePoint just having an account in SharePoint like a regular user account allows you to create your own site and then you can control the template or the ASPX page in this case for SharePoint and then you can use that to get remote code execution on the underlying server in other cases like xRiki just a regular user as well other systems like for example Atlassian Confluence you were required to be administrator in order to edit a template so in those systems either you are an administrator so it's kind of more like an insider attack or maybe those systems are vulnerable as I explained before you find a cross-site script in vulnerability and you can escalate from cross-site scripting to remote code execution by being able to fool the victim to submit or modify a template on your behalf okay so can you give us a little bit of background on how you came upon this type of research what was your entry point into doing this attack it's not easy to answer it's as usual when you have some target that allows you something and you think wow it's a lot of things for attackers and it's start game and you try to use one thing to bypass something to for example SharePoint it allows you to upload ASPX pages so first thing why we cannot put only the code there and execute code there no we cannot why we can't and game starts and it's not only SharePoint there are a lot of such such server or services that allows you to define some templates for dynamic content and actually you can access gatters you can access some methods you can access some objects like we cannot abuse them well let's try well let's see what we can do what we can do further with all this stuff and it's start our research investigation and at the end we have such results you chained it down I'm on mute so you pushed it down that direction that makes sense and I'm assuming then we're kind of talking to a general mindset of when you're doing your normal day-to-day work you find something that's a little funny and you just can't let it go I mean this is a that greater question about what does it take to be a hacker it's always nice to hear people who are out there in the world doing these presentations doing this research talk to the rest of us who are getting our feet wet in the world of web application security or whatever the whatever your niche is you know how do the rest of you folks who are getting all of the success doing these cool presentations and research how do you approach these how do you know when you have something cool so in my case and continuing Alexander response I guess I started this research because Oleg came to me and said like okay I found these four different ways of breaking the server in safe mode so he said like maybe if we also look at the Java side we get something interesting that can be interesting like a full research like something that is more self-contained somehow and then he told me like can you take a look at some of the like most popular engines in Java and when I was there I was like okay let's see it's before I started looking it in the implementation of those engines and do like code review and things like that it was like okay I'm here I get access I assume that I get access to the template what can I do now what objects are available so I started looking and inspecting the template context by debugging the applications and setting some some breakpoints and then I was surprised that I was able to access thousands of objects that were non-intentionally exposed they were like they're indirectly exposed by other objects and with that big amount of that surface it was like this is going to be easy to find something that I can have used to get remote execution that was the case and then as a second part of the research we started looking at the implementation of those libraries and then we found some specific flaws in the implementation of the way they were checking block lists for example or gaps on those block lists or things like that that I explained in the talk. That was your entry you all of a sudden like I have something and then you spent a significant amount of time checking testing the boundaries of the thing that you had until you worked your way towards where we are now that's that makes sense so it's good to hear hear from you folks kind of where you're coming from on that so I saw a few different content management systems that you looked at and I imagine at some point you just kind of run out of time to keep checking things do you think that there are still more out there that people could follow your techniques and do the same kind of thing too to find vulnerabilities is that also going to be an area that you plan to continue to research or are you guys kind of done with this one? Definitely there should be a lot of products we think there are a lot of products as you mentioned there just a couple of them are under our focus and actually for example if you're talking about SharePoint it is not an automated approach it's just manual and just to find some projects and we try to to show this pattern in our presentation and I believe there's still a lot of things to look for in SharePoint and specifically and about other content management even not content management system in any other system like it may be email servers so if you can define a template for then I'm content for some after creation emails it can be starting point for your research as well so our proposed of our research our presentation just show our patterns our approaches and say hey guys we use this and we got such results like 30 new vulnerabilities you can use the same it's not only for offensive side it's for defensive as well guys if you are developing something that go in this bucket you need to to look on on these areas to to check this because you can see what what what can happen and so of course anybody welcome to to continue this research about myself I'm not sure I need to have some rest vacation couple month after that maybe but usually if you can see our talks they're not linear we are jumping from one topic to another topic it's it's more interesting for me but I'm not I do not know maybe maybe if I still find something interesting I will continue but for the next year you'll be honest it will be more difficult because competition will be more higher and maybe it's better to to live this for others and try to find some in your areas yeah it based on how all the different presentations that you two described earlier it seems like you two work together really well and finding these types of things I know some people earlier were asking how should somebody go about starting out research and picking out targets do you have any suggestions for people on how they can just kind of start getting into the type of research field that you two do seem to really do really well so I don't think that one is easy to answer so it's just like at least for me being up to date with the latest research from other people in the in the community and industry or maybe reading articles that are not directly related with what you do so for example I think that the J&DI injection that was the first one that we did together started out of reading an article about a malware analysis and in that malware analysis the malware was using some J&DI lookups we found that interesting we started researching that and that led to the J&DI injection attack as part of that attack we found some gadgets that were using setters instead of like magic methods in like Java digitalization and so on and we found that as an entry point to the JSON digitalization attacks that we did like following year so sometimes one thing takes you to the to the next one and sometimes they are not even related like jumping from J&DI to a JSON digitalization or a master digitalization so sometimes just like reading a lot of stuff gives you ideas sometimes you just are playing with something in your regular work and then you find something interesting and you just pull the thread and find something else so it's just I mean things are not going to come to you you have to be actively reading looking for things and then you will always find something that is interesting and you can pull the thread and find something more if you just stay passive like reading but not asking yourself why things are working in such or such other way then I don't think that there is room for research and my suggestion not to be focused on the results of the talk my career started you it's very difficult to on the first year to to be accepted in black cat or devcon or something like that and produce such several results I would suggest just to be focused on something some area what you like this and you are passionate about that and follow for new research try to understand each new novel technique and maybe try own thing maybe you have ideas and be passionate I think I I do not know for me it took couple years to to to get some if your new stuff will start to give your results and you can start to think about how to summarize this and present to others and just to to start a career from let's talk at devcon it's for me it's difficult to imagine you need to have some background to this area and produce something new and for this you need year not years you need time for for somebody it's it's month for somebody it's years but still for me it's main target it's it's it's my passion in in that areas areas not just talking devcon devcon it's results if you have results you can present it at devcon if you do not have results let's wait let's try other other direction but you need to like this without passion it's it's difficult I love that you two said really quite different things there in one case you have hey I was reading an article and then I thought really deep about that article but it would seem like it was something different from your previous research and then the other answer would be I just really like this stuff and I learned everything I could about it so it's it's nice to hear the two different two different sides if not the two different sides about how to approach a new topic and how to find something cool in it which is probably why they work together so well and have had so much great research through the years we have very different approaches for everything so it's it's it's like even research is different I'm one thing and one approach I was just completely different approach for example I never read documentation before I research it took more time but I have some some some rule do not open documentation Aruvaro start his documentation and can find something more more quickly the the the significant quickly the fucking manual yeah rtfm right yep yep so um what did we not get to see during this presentation I know you've already talked about when you your presentations tend to jump around a little bit so maybe you have the opportunity to hit more content or whatever you wanted to present during your your go but due to time or due to not having it fully formed in your head what would you have liked to have put into this presentation where there more time more ability so there is a lot of content that is not in the actual talk in the actual video but it's available in the white paper that we released as part of the talk it's simply that we were not able to feed all the content in those 40 minutes apart from that that's something that just didn't fit into the time allocated for the video I think that I would also like to have look into other languages we just focus on dotnet and java maybe for dotnet I would also have uh looked into other content management systems that are different from Serpent maybe I don't know I'm not really very familiar with um the dotnet ecosystem but for example dotnet nuke is a potential um target that we just didn't have time to to look into Agrivi Zelvaro actually we have more findings and usually when when you start to search something you have more findings but you need to to collect them in some topic in some scope of course a lot of things out of scope maybe for the later research maybe for for some blog post maybe not maybe it's not interesting something like that it depends if you will have like two hours talk maybe we will include some some new stuff for SharePoint there was something interesting stuff because there was some playing with roles and other things but I think current current our white paper means scope what what what what we draw before this white paper and talks and it's it's more interesting when you have a lot of stuff it's not good as well because it's very difficult to focus on on something even this stuff you have two parts and dotnet and java it's a bit different java has a lot of template and giants dotnet has only sharepoint it's a bit difficult to fall to to keep focus audience for for these two parts I think if you want to include something else maybe it's better to have separate talk no no no not in this to build a new talk yeah makes sense it's nice to to be able to isolate down we always give some sprouts you say that in english like something like seeds roads for the next talk something that looks promising maybe it's a new way into a new road that can lead to something so yeah that's also something that we normally don't include in the talks that's that you're never going to retire from this are you there's always going to be something new and interesting to do a talk on it's difficult because competition from year to year it's it's it's more harder and harder a lot of new guys and a lot of old guys and it's not easy let's hope that you will have motivation and time and resources for new researchers we like this life will show so we have about five minutes left in our scheduled time here is there anything that you like what's your call to action where would you direct people to to keep poking at this or what's something that as you were hunting through all of this that you were like oh this would be something that i want somebody to look at but maybe i don't have the background of the time or or what's the what's the gap yeah there's your question yeah so as i said uh we didn't look at other languages i i know there is a lot of research around server site template injection in javascript and python but yeah so those are sandboxes as well and probably those sandboxes need to be bypassed so if a good direction for for people like wanting to look into this area of research is looking at how these other languages implement sandboxes and maybe try to find a way still to break them i agree with that of our actually we have two different dotnet and java languages i think if we found something similar in these two languages we can assume that many other are affected and it's not problem languages it's a problem in design actually it's very difficult to to to implement good sandbox for these cases i believe it's it's it's very difficult and there are a lot of potential areas and we try to to highlights the most obvious of them and i think it's a good idea to look any places like this in any in any languages in any system in any other place that makes sense well thank you for that um do if you would be so kind uh you can toss us in probably the track one channel be a good place for this any place that folks can contact you later since this is a new format we can actually put down if there's an email address or a twitter profile or something that or a github you could post that in the chat guys i don't know if you can hear me i can as a matter of fact oh maybe i can hear you we might have just lost him but you're back yeah i guess i'm back i lost all of you well welcome back uh so we were just chatting about if there is a you know github or a twitter profile or an email or something that you i believe you put something like that in your talk but can everybody hear me well yeah yeah so my personal twitter handle is a contestor obviously and um also i work for the github security lab where all the advisories for the different content matching systems with the details about how we were able to exploit them or break their sandboxes um are being published some of them have been published already some of them are still to be published so you may also want to to follow that one um i think it's g-h um security lab just yep you can you could type that into the track one channel at your leisure um and people can see that there if there's and that's pretty much that's the last of the questions i have i want to thank you both very much for building this presentation and taking time out of your day to come and do this qa with us this is what makes this community better than anything else i've ever been a part of so thank you very much for your efforts and i hope to see more from you folks in the near future thank you very much for having us and hopefully yeah we can present again in in DEF CON next year and in this time in person definitely the next time in person well i appreciate it i have a great rest of your day enjoy the con and to everyone watching um you should be able to see here in the next little while the um contact information show up in the track one channel otherwise we will see you for the next one bye everyone have a good one


The following is a presentation of TFNN. The morning market kickoff with your host Tommy O'Brien. Good morning everyone. This is Teddy Keckstaff from Forex Trading Unlocked and I'm filling in for Tommy O'Brien today. So I hope you guys enjoy the show that we have planned for you today. So we're going to start right away into Forex markets. We have the forex-trading-unlocked.com website pulled up today. Oh, hi. How are you doing? I've got some people in the chat room right now saying hello. All right. So we have the euro US dollar chart pulled up here for you. As you guys are pretty aware that we have a lot of interesting things going on with the central banks and other fundamental markets to drive currency pricing. One thing that's very noticeable that you can see right here with the euro US dollar is that the bears have complete control over this market. So we've had a little bit of a consolidation over the past say a week and a half, but you can see that's the end of April and to May. And we're trying to break out. We had this lower and high that was set last week and we just seem to be getting more contracting range every day over the past few sessions. So economic numbers are something that you're going to have to really watch when it comes to the US dollar moving forward for the EU and also for a journey explicitly. Their economy is contracting the faster than ours is. And you think if you see this trend continue, you're going to see the euro US dollar get low pay rate in the relatively short term future, meaning like probably the next two to three months, definitely before sometimes over with August. So there's a big strangeness as well. We have the high price and bill and we also have obviously finding interest rates higher in the US. So the fact that our central banks being much more aggressive than these are over the EU will continue to support the dollar. So the dollar is not necessarily a bull but I want you all to be aware that it's just that most of our currency process out there are that weak against the dollar. So if you notice, we have this downward sloping resistance line that's keeping the channel intact. And when we tried to break out to the upside and failed, you could see that momentum was so strong that we couldn't get up to this upper part of the channel. And we had an area that's basically $1.07 to $1.756 as a retracement area. They have a kind of nice profit taken like correction if you could manifest that. We didn't have enough strength to have that happen. Remember the dollar index obviously is pretty strong right now. Euro being the number one point is the one thing that's really driving. So this is also causing the dollar index to be a little choppy as well right now. Consolidating because you look at this chart. It's almost basically an important chart right now. We do have a lot of action today in the other foreign currency crosses. We continue to move on to those as we get through this program. And if you have any questions about any of them, just please be feel free to do something in the chat. I'll try to some of them as we go through this. All right, so as we go, one more thing about the Euro US dollar. Want to take a look at the month real quick. OK, if you look at the month, you can see how devastating of a slide we had last month. OK, now the war in Ukraine is being definitely on this market. You can see that in the past two months, this market has gotten much more volatile and really starts to probe support, support very, very hard. This trend, I would like to continue over the next few weeks, a few months. And so we start to see some sort of at least calming resolution between Russia and I, when Zach, I don't know, starts trading outlook. I'm keeping in your focus. These trends are going to gain and tap at least the next few months because we don't have any signs of any reprieve right now. So is the damage done already for this market? I think that initial shock of conflict is definitely already factored into the Euro US dollar. The main thing you need to really focus on now, the economic numbers, both for the US, but also predominantly for the EU and especially for Germany. Because as these continue to trend over, I think you're going to really see a lot more pressure. OK, now, how far can we go? I think it's definitely a shot to get to that. I would expect to see a lot of volatility and a lot of balance. I think you're going to find it's really too clear. I think you're going to have a spike bottom and I was see a radical really. So kind of like we stuck back to the COVID at that pandemic actually first started. OK, so this is something to be very mindful. We have a little bit of divergence that is going on in the process versus dollar. However, in the past couple of weeks, the diversions to start to wane. So and if you guys any questions about what that means as far as the currency process that you are treating, please put something in the chat and I'll address that. So when it comes to these factors, you have to think about something like when are the impacts of central banks to help their currencies? Especially because the euro right now is trending a little. So that's being demand. Is it such a big thing for the EU that the was now trading no five year for 69 years? I would say that it doesn't mean that much in the short run for this particular currency, because the euro is still relatively strong. Now, if you take a look at something like the U.S. South again, which is that too, and even the way the pound is selling off recently, that kind of magnets is a totally different store. And if that's the continues over the next week or two, then that's a very big indication that trends are not even over. But they're this acceleration process is to start to really have both sides into many of the markets, especially equity markets, commodity markets and all kinds of out there. So just be very mindful of the forward as we head into some time because these things are really going to start to grow. So remember, most indicators and most numbers are lagging. So I already know that the numbers have started to show the past few months and now it's getting to the summertime. It's a fresh thing. We know that there's a stab, which is part of the momentum for these things. Let's see if I can adjust this a little bit. Maybe that helps it a little bit. So I know I have feedback from my audience, so I don't know what it has come to us. So but thank you for pointing that out. OK, so for the U.S. dollar right now, you can see that the range is really tight today. Take the hour real quick to see that since coming to the U.S. Mark opening and stuff like that, you have a little bit of volatility. I think right now you have the help of sticking up. We'll see what happens. We've got some real numbers to impact things of the way today. So I'm very mindful of what you do because as it does, really, as they're very likely that you're going to see your U.S. dollar travel problem and we're going to break a couple of minutes. Everything in the universe is governed by the Fibonacci sequence. This mathematical principle is responsible for everything from the most aesthetically pleasing artwork to patterns in the stock market. To stay on top of stock patterns, you can take advantage of. Sign up for the Fibonacci 24 seven newsletter at tfnn.com. 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Okay, well, I hope the mic is better now. I think we may have flexed it. I don't have the feedback in my audio. So hopefully you don't either anymore. All right, so Kevin's not on the line yet. So we'll just go back into what we're talking about. We're talking about the FX markets today live right now. We're the British pound US dollar, which is also like the Euro, kind of having a restricted tight range. We will get to some volatility. There's some stuff going on in a couple other crosses. But first, let's cover what's going on in Europe. So British pound US dollar also in the bear market. There's just as we were talking about with the Euro, you have to pay attention to the economic numbers in the UK. They have a lot of issues similar to what the EU does, not as much as the EU, though. Remember that because of Brexit, the UK sovereignty now is definitely helping to make them and their economy much stronger than the EU is.  Well, the energy cost pricing definitely is impacting them. But as far as the availability of it is not because the UK is actually an energy provider. So the price of oil going up is definitely helping to in somewhat lessen the below of the depreciation of the pound versus the dollar. Now, interestingly enough, I had a conversation with some people from the EU and also the UK over the past weekend and both of them. I asked them, I'm like, do you think your central banks or your governments are going to do something to defend your currency? Now, like I mentioned in the last segment, the euro is not really, even though it is in a bear market, it is not at like horrible levels. If it was another 20 handles lower, I would say, look out. Oh, Kevin is here. OK, all right. All right, Kevin, how are you doing? Welcome to the show. Glad they got you on the line. And why don't you talk to the viewers and tell them what you want to talk about? Good morning. You know, today's market is really consumed by the CPI data that just came out that showed a couple of things. You know, you saw the violent reaction of futures when that CPI data come out. That's a couple of reasons. CPI overall inflation was lower than a month ago, but it was higher than expectations. And that caused a pretty violent reaction in stock futures to start the day. Now, what made this number a little stronger than expected? Well, it was looking for point two. It came in point three. That's significantly lower than a month ago, but higher than expectations. Some of the numbers actually it was pretty positive in terms of energy, energy down 2.7 percent. Gasoline, a part of that was down 6.1 percent. Used cars were down point four, but new cars were up 1.1 percent. And here's the number that was historic. Transportation services up 3.1 percent. What does that mean? Airfares up 18.6 percent in one month. That's the largest one month increase since this number was started to be measured in 1963. So all things where we sit today in this economy, it's airline fares that are hurting inflation. Overall, though, it was the core number that came in higher than expected and higher than a month ago, even though the year over year came down from 6.5 to 6.2. So that's what this number is. That's what these markets are dealing with right now. The original reaction, like I said, was violent to the downside. But remember that is high frequency trading, getting the expectations, getting the actual number, selling futures off violently. We live in a microwave world right now, and sometimes you've got to let these numbers bake. So we're getting a pretty solid recovery here in futures back towards unchanged. Now they're still down, but some of the futures have come back pretty significantly. This day is going to get interesting, guys. I totally agree with you. I mean, it's kind of funny. We just in the last segment started talking about the Euro and I'm going to start talking about the pound. They're actually not too volatile today, but the yen has been all over the place. And especially in the past couple of hours, it's made some radical moves. And there's also some significant breakouts also in a couple of other currencies too. So I'm with you on that one. I think as we start to get through May and head towards summertime, we're not going to settle down into summertime lulls. I think we're going to really have a crazy summer when it comes to market activity. Yeah, I agree. I mean, like I said, this economy, I believe that inflation has peaked, but we're not turning a speedboat around here. We're turning in an aircraft carrier. And it's just not as easy to flip these markets as it was. Things are going to get lumpy. We could certainly use some help in energy and computer chips and all these things that are creating some of these problems and new and used cars and energy. So you think inflation is pink? This is going to be a fun summer. Okay, so you think inflation is peaked though? I do think inflation is peaked. Jerome Powell thinks the second half of the year you could see some lightning. Obviously the war in Ukraine is going to decide this. Grain prices, right? It's still been a wet, cold spring here in the Midwest and that's affected planting.  You can't plant, right? Right, exactly. You don't, you want, you don't want dry, but you don't want really, really wet in terms of planting. And this is such a vital time in terms of getting corn and soybeans in the ground. Well, and the ground temperature was also so cold too. It just started to warm up literally days ago. You know, that was another problem. The seeds wouldn't have germinated even if they did plant. Right, exactly. You need, you know, I mean, seeds are pretty resilient, but you still need good conditions to get them in the ground. And we've had a horrible, cold, wet spring here in the Midwest. Right, right. Exactly, exactly. Well, I agree with you, especially with the car markets. I mean, you know, just a couple of months ago, all the dealership lots were empty. Now everywhere around me in Chicago and they're packed, they're completely packed. So if they're charging excessive amounts I'm used or new cars, whatever, then I don't know where that's coming from. Cause they're inventory, they're starting to sit on inventory. That's for sure right now around our area here. They're getting more inventory around the Chicago area, but I have a friend in the car dealer, they're still not back to where they were. They're still only about a quarter of what they were, what they're ordering. So things are flowing out though. That's for sure. Things are getting better, not correct. Right, right. They're not empty lots. When you do, I mean, you should, let me, literally you drive past some of these mega dealers and I mean, they're huge lots and then you would just see their building, empty parking lot. So. Big, beautiful new buildings with no cars. Correct. Exactly, exactly. So very interesting time. So we'll see how it goes. I think you're right though. I agree without a doubt, this summer is going to be a fun trading summer for sure. I love it. Business is busy, busy is good. That's the way I look at it for traders. That's when you get the nice trends, especially. Yep, exactly right. And so today on our show fast market, we're going to look at three names, Amazon, Disney, that has earnings tomorrow morning and then Beyond Meat are the three names that we're covering today. We'll look at trading positions in all three of those names. Okay, and Disney, they got hit again yesterday, didn't they? Disney, I didn't see what it did in her day yesterday. Hold on, I can hit that up and tell you. If I remember. When it was down yesterday, now it hit a low yesterday of 106.14. Now it's trading a little bit higher this morning it looks like. Pretty much on trade, it's trading about 107. Still down from the high of 187 earlier this year in our summer of last year. So down significantly. All right, well thank you, Kevin. You have a good week and appreciate your time on this segment and we'll see you guys back in just a couple of minutes after this break. Thank you very much. If you want to take advantage of this sector now is the time to subscribe to my Gold Report. The Gold Report is a comprehensive look at the metal sector as well as the markets that move gold, which is the currency and bond markets. New subscribers get a 30 day money back guarantee so you have nothing to lose. Every Monday morning I publish the Gold Report with coverage of gold, silver, bonds, the XAU, HUI, GDX, as well as more than 30 different mining equities. 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As you can see, it's a little bit higher on the day, but it's been a bear for sure, trending lower for the past couple of, not just weeks, but for a few months. So, and definitely the market action over the past week and a half has been quite significant. So, very interesting. We started off the show talking about the Euro. The pound also is something right now that you have to really pay attention to the economic numbers in the UK. Their economy is not exactly off to a racing start, and right now it's showing some signs of where it's gonna start to get a little peaked if not a downright bearish. So, if that's the case, that's gonna weigh definitely on the British Pound US dollar currency cross and the pound versus some other currencies around the globe. One of the biggest factors that's helping to push this bear right now is our aggressive interest rate policy versus their interest rate policy in the UK. I would say that the price of oil, as it does continue to start to go in target resistance again, I would say that that may help to hold up the pound dollar on this slide or at least keep it from sliding too strongly, especially if you start to see oil get back above $110 a barrel. If that's the case, I would definitely think you're gonna find a little bit of price support there. Otherwise, there is one thing in the longer term that just a little interesting side note, I had a conversation with some gentlemen from both the UK and also the EU. And I asked them both point blank, I'm like, when do you think that the ECB or the BOE is going to not just talk about interest rates and stuff like that, when are they actually going to talk about their currency and actually figure out if they're going to defend their currency? One of those ways would be aggressively raising interest rates, something like what the Federal Reserve is doing here in the US. One of the reasons we have the strength in the US dollar right now is not so much because of US dollar strength, it's because of these fundamental factors. Our interest rate policy is much more aggressive than the other central banks around the world. We obviously were late to the table. That's a whole nother issue, but right now we know that at least in the short run that aggressive action is going to continue. Should that trend continue, you're gonna probably see the pound US dollar continue to test support as far as how low can it go. Right now you have the pound at $1.23 issues. It's a relatively strong level still. The euro is the one that's looking like it wants to go to parity faster than anyone else. But we're gonna, as I show you this monthly here, you can see that this thing is definitely a bear. We've been making multiple lows now for the last four months continually on a monthly basis. We don't have quite the sell off like we had last month, but then also it's only May 11th. We haven't had that many trading days left. We are coming into kind of a critical support area if you will on a monthly basis going back to 2016. And I think that this is something you're gonna have to watch out for is that if we can continue to slide, if we get down towards this one 19 level, that's when we start to get very, very bearish on the pound US dollar. And this would also impact the pound versus many other currency crosses as well. So should what would actually drive this type of trend? Well, we know that the economic numbers for the US aren't exactly great either. If you listen to Kevin Hanks just now, we were talking about the CPI and its impact on inflation. He thinks that inflation is starting to subside. Interestingly enough, that would be great for the whole world. Not every country is dealing with inflation though as much as we are and even as they are in the UK. We'll get to touch on that when we get to the US dollar, Japanese yen. So, but right now I would be very careful about trying to catch a falling knife. If whatever you have for buying and sell signals, I always tell people, you know, don't be subjective. Always stick to your guns and your systems, but be very careful with any type of currently like in this situation of buy signal, which is a counter trend signal. The momentum because of not just technical, technical forces are out the window. Everything is oversold when it comes to the pound US dollar right now. But fundamentally there are issues that are not done yet. The Russian, Ukrainian things still does weigh on them because they are part of, you know, they're very close in the European connection there is also for trade. The embargoes that are on Russia also are impacting both the EU and also the UK. So be very careful upside potential. I don't think you're gonna see very much. The only way you're gonna see any real strength, I believe would be is if you take out this last lower swing high around $1.2645. Trading above here would still have it just in an upward correction. I would be looking for rallies to sell more than breaks to buy when it comes to the pound US dollar. All right, let's look at the US dollar, Swiss. This is a very interesting rally, if you will hear. One thing that's very interesting about the Swiss is that it typically is a flight to quality currency. It doesn't look like that right now, does it? This rally is going very, very vertical. And if you look at it in the past month and a half we've only had what one, two, three, four down days with today being one of them and today is not over yet. So the trend obviously higher move highs and higher move lows continues. Why is this so much more severe than what we're seeing with the Euro and also with the pound? Normally you shouldn't see this type of reaction. Well, if you look at when this rally started to accelerate and we broke out to the upside this is when during the conflict with Russian Ukraine that the Swiss decided to break neutrality. Now this is not a moral or ethical thing to talk about. That's a whole nother topic for another day. But as far as what, how did the Swiss react when it comes to anything in the world? They're always neutral, it doesn't matter. During World War I, during World War II during every conflict that we've had in the last 100 plus years they've never ever sided or worked with other countries when it came to going picking sides with what whether you wanna call them allies or access or whatever time period you're talking about that never happened before. This is significant not so much just and how it impacts the Russians and how Russians do business through Switzerland and other countries do with Russia through Switzerland. It also sends a tone as far as the Swiss as far as what they're known for and that is neutrality. So that means now that any country in the world even though they're not in conflict right now with anybody knows that the Swiss are no longer neutral as far as being not necessary. It's not the safe haven that it used to be when you hear stories about people hiding money and whatever making it disappear if you will. It's not quite like that. Those days are over. However, as far as being a place of security and knowing that not only are your funds secure but you'll always have access to them that was one of the nice things about dealing with the Swiss. Those days are now over. So and I think that is why you're seeing this extreme rally with the US dollar Swiss. So what we do have today and I'll be very cautious with this just like I was saying with the pound right now any counter trend signal be very, very leery of and don't expect to get much out of it. 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We had a couple of questions in the chat during the break and I'm gonna address them. We got one from Duffy here about the U.S. dollar. So we'll take a look at the dollar index after we wrap up this with the Swiss. So before we leave the break, we were talking about, we have a high-probable Japanese candlestick pattern forming here. This is a bullish engulfing line that is, if it was to close right now, that's what this would be called and that would be a sell signal, short-term, counter-trend trade that would be targeting, definitely a test of this 9706 area in the Swiss. Now, markets tend to go out like they go in. When you look at this extreme rally that we've had, it started just before April and is now trending all the way into now it is almost the middle of May. That's pretty extreme, especially if you were listening in the last segment, we were talking about how it relatively different to Swiss as compared to the Euro and the pound as far as falling apart versus the dollar in the last month and a half. Okay, so if we do fall apart and start to get a nice little correction going on here, the first layer of support here is this 9706. This was our last upward higher move swing low. We now made a higher move high as of yesterday. We'll see, who knows, the day is not over. We could see a snapback, especially right now, the bonds are falling apart and so is the 10-year. They were much firmer earlier today and as we get into the end, we'll talk about what's going on with that. It's gonna also impact the Swiss. So be very careful, as I was saying with the other markets, normally, you would take your counter-trend trades and trade normally. I would be very cautious when it comes to the European currency crosses because the momentum is too hard, okay? So now let's get to the dollar index. Oh, we have a caller, okay, sure. Yes. How you doing? Good, self. I'm doing well. What's your question today? My question is, what are the best ETFs to use to trade currencies? Oh, that's a difficult question for as far as ETFs. Especially in today's market environment right now, if I were you, I would stay away from all currency ETFs. Normally, I like them, especially when you have normal market conditions, but with what's going on right now, I would just totally be hands off on ETFs. Now, what I would do is if you wanna trade the ETFs, any of the currency ETFs, trade options on them, straddles and strangles, I would look for that. But as far as the actual ETFs themselves, I would just stay hands off right now, especially while you have this conflict going on with the Russian and Ukraine right now. That's for sure. Okay, good enough. The reason I was asking is because I don't know how to use options. I use a mere trade, and I've listened to you in the past and I think there used to be things like E-U-O or something like E-U-R, and then it doesn't seem to be out there anymore. So I didn't know if it was doable without doing options and without buying currency, or I was just looking for an easy way to trade them. So it sounds like right now is not a good time anyways. Well, I got a good suggestion for you. If you go to my YouTube channel, Forex Trading Unlocked, I have different channels set up and playlist. I have one for options. I did do a webinar specifically on ETFs and options on how to trade ETFs with options. So you might wanna check that out as a base to start to get kind of on an idea of what to look at and take it from there. Cause there is definitely a lot of opportunity with those markets, but I would use a lot of cautions with the actual ETF instrument right now and look into the options first. Sure, well, thanks a lot. I appreciate it. And if you have a minute, maybe you can talk about oil for a minute when you get a chance. I can do that. Let me talk about the dollar index real quick and then I'll get to oil right after that. How about that? Thank you. Okay, you're welcome. Thank you. You're welcome. All right, so let's talk about the dollar index for Duffy that's out there and then we'll get to the caller's questions. So the dollar index, as you can see from yesterday, we're riding the highs. It looks like an upside down Euro US dollar chart. So the question is from Duffy, is do you think US dollar strength will continue? I do, as long as you see the pound and the Euro continue to make new lows, you're going to see the dollar index continue to progress higher. The Euro is the number one component. The pound is the number three. The yen, which we're gonna get to is number two. We're gonna get to that and show you how I, that also is helping to drive the dollar index higher. But once again, like I said earlier in the broadcast, it's not so much that the dollar is a bull and is dollar strength. It's just that the other currencies are that weak, okay? So let me go back to US dollar JPY and I'll also pull up the crude chart. All right, so crude, let's see, let's see. If we go to the CME site, if I remember right, they were slightly higher a little bit ago. Go to energy, everything's in the lag here for the futures, I don't wanna be non-compliant. Yeah, they're up five bucks. Okay, so if you see where crude is going on right now, it's been wedging. We've come to this point where people are making choices. Is the supply issue is something that, work as we come into springtime, you're gonna have to expect that supply is gonna be under pressure because demand is gonna go up. Especially like when we were talking, Kevin Hanks mentioned planting coming up. That's gonna be huge, the farm engines are gonna start to be turning up a notch. You know, you're gonna have a lot of heavy machinery throughout the US. It's gonna be starting to consume diesel. So gas is not the only component of oil, and that's something I think that those issues are gonna drive the demand for oil. Another thing is that with this conflict, as the way it's continuing, as I think the supply chain for oil also is gonna become more restrictive. There's also the issue with China and Shanghai. This is also gonna impact oil, making it more bullish. And unless we start to turn our pumps back on and reverse something that was set in stone right now by a mandate, that's not gonna change. I believe that we're gonna see oil probably test this last swing high that we had a few sessions back here, right around 111. If we breach this area here, I mean if you look at it, since the middle of April, we established this low. We made a lower move high, we made a higher move low, a higher move high. Okay, short run, this wedge is now trending as a bull. We came down here as of yesterday, now we're trading back $5 higher, we're coming off a new higher swing low. Trend is your friend, my friend, and no pun intended. So I think you're gonna see strength going on. Continue with that. Another thing is we're also making the switch. I don't know where you're located in the United States, but especially like areas like the Midwest, Ironic, I don't know any of it all. I'm in Chicago and we're less than 80 miles away from one of the biggest refineries in the country and every time they switch their blend, we end up paying more than everybody else. So I know that in this short run in the Midwest, we're going to spike up higher as far as pricing. All right, let's get to the US dollar yet, a very interesting trade here today. Since we started this webinar, this market's been all over the place today. On an hourly basis, look at this. Like I said, here's, it's sold off since we started this show. Right before the show, it rallied huge. It went from a dollar 2980 up to 13080. That is a huge radical move. So this is when we had the CPI data, you can see that economic numbers have had some sort of an impact on somebody's trade today. So I have been that long and we're going to go to commercial break and then have one more segment see you in a couple of minutes guys. Sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument. You have to practice, sure, but you also need excellent instruction from experts. At TFNN, you'll get advice and guidance from the authority and technical market analysis. And it's not just dry, tedious text either. TFNN airs live financial content streamed live on TFNN.com and TFNN's YouTube channel with Tiger TV, live every market day from 8.30 a.m. to 4.00 p.m. Eastern. For free, each host is an experienced trader and gives their take on the market while taking calls and questions live from around the world. 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In this all-day five-hour live trading webinar, take a seat by Larry's side as he trades the market's real time, including the Dow and S&P 500E mini, crude oil, natural gas, gold, treasury bonds, wheat and soybeans, the Euro dollar, pound dollar, dollar yen and more. If you've ever wanted to get inside the mind of a market master, you cannot miss this live trading webinar. To sign up today, just visit the front page of TFNN.com. This segment is brought to you by Think or Swim. For more information, just click the Think or Swim banner on the front page of TFNN, and go to thinkorswim.com. Hello everyone, this is Teddy Keckstead from Forex Trading Unlocked. I'm filling in for Tommy O'Brien today, and we're talking about the Forex market. So in this last segment, we're gonna kind of race around. We just started to talk about the US dollar yen and a couple of comments on the chat too. Very thankful for your guys input and stuff like that. Someone even said nice charts, very crisp. So if you want to use these charts, it's just like we're using in real time, you go to the forex-trading-unlocked.com website and from the market analysis education, you just hit the workstation tab and that will bring you to this page where you can look at all the economic numbers for the week, can they get you based by the current season, whatever. This helps you to definitely figure out what's going on and what's helping to influence the trends in these markets. So US dollar yen actually didn't have very many numbers to pay attention to this week. The CPI today for the US did actually make it move. We've had a lot of volatility with the bonds, tanking and the tenure also hitting new lows on the day. I think that you would definitely want to see the bulls come back in the US dollar yen, especially with oil up as well. We've had quite the volatility since basically last hour and a half, since right before we started this broadcast. And I think it's going to continue today. I believe bullish momentum is going to be the call though. I think you drained out a lot of weak shorts and excuse me, weak longs and right now you're going to get ready to make a run at resistance again. The Bank of Japan originally wanted to say that they were going to defend their currency once it got to $1.30. Well, right now it's trading $1.30, 20 and it got up to already over $1.31. And it looks like it wants to breach resistance again. So I think right now you got to ride the trend. I've been longing this thing for a while now. I mean, anyone that watches me on my segments with Tommy they know I've been longing this for since last summer. So I would look to continue to buy breaks in this market with the interest rate correlation right now between the Japanese yen and the US dollar. That's a fundamental force that makes the US dollar a bull versus the yen. The price of oil right now as it starts to spike higher through resistance that's also going to play into this. And as the trend is your friends. So right now I think you have to just continue with that. And now we are done with the show. I believe you guys have a good day and thanks for showing up today. See you guys soon next Wednesday. I'll be on with Tommy.


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