Family Theatre presents Lucille Ball and Dean Miller from Hollywood the Mutual Network in Cooperation with Family Theatre presents Last one in line starring Dean Miller and now here is your hostess Lucille Ball Family Theatre's only purpose is to bring to everyone's attention a practice that must become an important part of our lives If we are to win peace for ourselves peace for our families and peace for the world Family Theatre urges you to pray pray together as a family Now to our transcribe drama last one in line starring Dean Miller as Moffat That is Arlen Mudd he just might turn out to be this year's favorite comedian and if he's lucky He might even stay on top of the heap for a couple of years long enough to make a mistake Last month at this time. He didn't have a chance last month this time He was on his way back to burlesque just as sure as I'm standing here. That's too noisy in here Let's go on out on the fire escape, but I'll tell you more about Arlen Mudd This seems to be the year and the season for stories about the funny men of the entertainment business Exposed a type stories saw how March in one of you weeks ago did a great job nice tight story Then Mickey Rooney did a bang-up job on another one fine characterizations both of them But the comedians the stories were about both had big psychological problems This story is about a comedian with a problem. It's true and we promise. It's the last one of the season I want to tell you this one because Arlen Mott's problem was the one that almost cost him his big chance at the big time Arlen Mott's problem was Different. I first met Arlen about a year ago when he came into the office I had on Sunset Boulevard. It was a little second floor 12 by 12 on the inexpensive side of Laurel Canyon It wasn't much but then a talent agent doesn't spend much time in his office anyway In fact, it was just luck that Arlen found me in at the time. I figured it was his luck Not mine Look, I'm trying to be honest with you. You want that don't you yes, of course, but I still need an agent But I don't handle comics never have so there's always a first time Yeah, can you give me one good reason why there should be hard enough getting work for an unknown even if he's a strong dramatic actor But a comic I'm not completely unknown Have you done any pictures? Well film television How about live television? Well, maybe if I could dig radio Just because I have a wait a minute. Wait a minute. Maybe you better tell me just exactly what you have done Or maybe I can tell you let me see now high school plays mr. They thought you were a very funny man on campus none of that. All right, then you tell me Done a lot of nightclub work Okay, how'd you start now give it to me straight? Well, I sang a little I I started with a show in the old Waterburn theater on Detroit Street show was called mid-century review. Maybe maybe you heard about it. Mm-hmm Go on well the show went on the road, but that didn't take me along So I stayed with the theater it went burlesque right after that They needed to tenor and I doubled as a comic and pretty soon. I was the featured comic along with 30 beautiful girls counting 30 All right, but I was the comic Well as soon as I could swing it I cut out started working the clubs. Yeah steady Well so far only on weekends, but I'm good mr. I'm sorry just come down to see me work once. That's all I just once if you were an actor I but I'm not and I figure a guy should do what he does best don't you if they can do it and keep eating Yes, well, I think he should even if he can't keep eating look just come down and catch my routine I pack them in they come just to see me Come down just once then well If you still say no, I'll let you alone. Okay, it won't do any good, but you come Alright, alright, where are you working? Well, I didn't want to but I went down to watch him work the following Saturday night It was that a little hole in the gutter type place on East 61st It was called Basil's Cave in the floor show consisted of two people a middle-aged woman who could play a piano and an electric organ at The same time and our boy Arlen mutt The lady with the keyboards was not so pretty good, but Arlen well He looked like he might turn out to be a pretty fair country comedian What at least most of the people laughed in the right places? As soon as he was finished he headed right for me Well, I heard your routine if that's what you mean How'd you like it? I liked it better when Joe Frisco did it ten years ago Look, I don't suppose you've got a dressing room someplace where we could talk. Well, there's the alley I thought I was in it pardon me. Come on, lead the way right through this door About me using Frisco doesn't matter to me. I just hope he doesn't find out about it aside from that aside from that Well, I think you might be able to make a buck or two if you keep at it for a few years Well, will you take me? Will you be my agent? You've got a job. You call this a job? To maybe three nights a week if I'm lucky and for that I average about 25 bucks a week You mean you're living on it I've got another job in the daytime parking cars on the other side of town But I'm tired parking cars to make ends meet and I'm tired of working in dumps like this and having the manager act like He's doing me a big favor when he pays me I'm tired of having to use other people's material too I'm telling you mr. Muffet. You out there. Yes, sir.  It's not much but this Who are you names Don Moffitt talent agent? That's right. Yeah, I saw you inside a few minutes ago Didn't I? Well, I'm not the one to tell you what you saw, but I was inside a few minutes ago I came over to watch your comic and maybe I should say my comic you're representing this guy as of now I am that's absolutely right, and I'm afraid I can't let him work for you anymore, mr Whatever your name is. It's Baylor. What do you mean? You can't let him work for me. Can't do it Well, we've got a deal. I'm sorry, but you've got to look at it our way Suppose he got out that he's working here for tips tips. I pay him look you've got him around for the weekends He does what how many shows a night or five sometimes six you're paying him tips, brother Well, it might be a little low, but he doesn't bring in a whole lot of business look. I've seen your dump I know how many drop-in customers you can expect to have here. Look, let's be reasonable about this All right, we'll be reasonable 40 a night three nights a week But we can't give you any more than a four-week contract not at these prices anyway Mr. Mothic look 40 a night three nights a week. I can't I have to be nuts to go for a thing like that I'm a small operator and it looks like you're gonna stay that way Mott brings in business So you wouldn't have kept him here in the first place that Well, unless there's a holiday, there's no sense in having your show three nights a week All right two nights a week then but on that arrangement will have to be for 50 per now Wait a minute. I got to think about this take all the time you want You might like your place better as a nice quiet little club Anyway, I'll get yourself a shuffleboard table a TV set. What are you talking about? I was doing all right before mine ever came along. Yeah, sure you were you got anything to pack Arlan and now wait now wait All right, look two nights and 45 is the best I can do but it's gotta be an eight-week deal No, I don't know. I don't think we can do it. I think we can can we look? I was only thinking of letting him stay on here because he's gonna have a new act to break in pretty soon Look Arlan, maybe Vegas would be the best place to break the enact. Okay.  I'll put him in my newspaper at featured. All right featured Arlan, how do you feel about I think so? I mean yeah, let's take it. Okay. It's a deal And I'm probably making a big mistake, but all right providing you a range for a dressing room dressing. That's what I said All right. All right. That's it. That's it. I'll send you a contract over in the morning And what a shake now wait a minute.  Baylor. Yeah Come on Mike. I got another show to do. He'll be along in a minute. Don't make it too long You just about scared me to death. You got a complaint. No, no complaint a hundred bucks a week I usually don't work that way usually more kid glove stuff than boxing glove But well a creep like that would let you work here for nothing. Yeah, but if he doesn't yeah sign It's tomorrow for that. I don't know how to thank you. You don't have to Arlan All you have to do is send me ten bucks a week for the next eight weeks Well, I better be they're getting home now Oh, incidentally, I want you to be in my office tomorrow morning at 10. You understand you want me sign a contract Well, we'll we'll be around to that later in the week tomorrow. I've got something else in mind You just be there. Yes, sir. I'll be there. Oh, and I think there's something else We ought to get straight right now Arlan What's that? Taking you for a client has to be worth more to me than 10 bucks a week If I'm gonna make any money on you it'll be because I'll be getting 10% of a lot more money than you're worth right now Oh, I understand that mr. Moffitt will understand this too when it comes to say so I am the 90% not the 10 You do what I tell you and you and I are both gonna make a buck. See you in the morning Arlan Yeah, mr. Moffitt, there's a mr. Arlan Mott here to see you. Huh? Is Bill Cassin here yet? Somebody coming up the stairs now it could be mr. Cassin. Okay, honey when he gets here, let him right in will you? Oh, you can send Mott in now too. Yes, sir Come on in Arlan. Oh, come on. Take a seat. Thank you Arlan, there's a guy coming over here who's just about the top man in his field. He's Wait a minute wait a minute. Oh here he is now come on in Bill Bill Bill this is the boy. I called you about Arlan Mott Bill Cassin. How do you do? Hi? I've heard your name before haven't I'd be surprised if you hadn't Bill writes some he writes some pretty funny stuff Oh, of course Bill Cassin.  Sorry, okay. It's a mistake. Everybody makes Arlan Bill is gonna write you some special material. What's he been using other people? Oh? And done what exactly did you have in mind a nightclub routine club routine? Yeah, well, I know it's a little out of your line and that's the reason I called you You see we want something that's different now It's got to be playable in front of a club, but I want it kept clean I don't figure our boy here is gonna be spending too much time in those sewers from now on are you thinking television? That's about the size of it TV show sure sound alright to you fine fine fine say I've got some ideas about a routine That might really be great. Oh, that's fine. That's just great. What's matter? Well, look, I'll let you two work that out. It's one thing. I want to understand there Arlan You know what you can do and you know what you can't do if you want to discuss that together fine with me But Cassin is getting paid for writing your stuff because he's a professional you follow me He won't tell any if I don't try to write any that's about the size of it Yeah, but about this paying I don't have any money. Well, I do let's just consider this in the nature of alone I don't get paid till you've had a good chance to try the material anyway, but at time you'll be able to afford it You got it. It's the way it works Bev. Yes, sir. You can come in now. Yes, sir. Did you make that dental appointment? All right? Yes, sir. The others too They're all set up. Okay. Oh, by the way miss white. This is our newest client here. Mr. Mott How do you do? I do Well, uh, mr. Moffitt if you have a dental appointment, I guess you'll be wanting me to come back some other time No, no, no, I don't have a dental appointment You do me? That's right. Look honey. Well, you see that all of his front ones are put in good shape But no caps unless it's absolutely necessary those things are just too darn expensive Bill you free today pretty much so or something you want me to do Well, if you're gonna know what to write for our boy, you two ought to spend a little time together Might as well kill two birds with one stone thought maybe you could help Bev pick a couple of suits for the boy Glad to you've no objections me. Oh, no, no great with me Fine. Well, I guess you three ought to get going, huh? Mr. Moffitt. I think you'd better be on your way, too You've got an appointment at 20th at 11. Wait a minute. That's right. I almost forgot 20th the studio. No, no, no It's not about you. You know, I've got other clients too I will tell you one thing though, mr. Mott. I'm investing a little money in you And I figured to get it back inside of six months six months That's right after that it won't be long before you'll be paying for my dental work and buying my suits With cast and writing for you. I'll get you your own show inside of a year or my name's not Don Moffitt Well from then on things went along pretty much as I'd hoped as a matter of fact They went on better than I'd hoped after his eight weeks at the cave breaking in the pattern bill had written for him I got him into a real nice place uptown. He packed him in too After that it was easy getting bookings for him and it was easy to build him with publicity Oh, look at that. Well, you're done. Did you read what they said about me? That's the best review yet. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine A fresh kind of comedy. We're betting on big things for young Mott Good, huh? Oh, it's great But I'd like to remind you that that kind of stuff is written for the public at large Not for you to commit to memory The five percent you pay a press agent just might have a little something to do with stories like that You know what I mean? This is written from the heart you can see from the heart, huh? You know Don, I've been thinking about that five percent. Oh Yeah, it seems like a lot to pay a guy when you never see him do anything. You see the results, don't you? I don't know I'm not sure we need him Arlen after a train gets rolling It's all right to take one of the drive wheels off the locomotive Oh brother, you'd make a great engineer Well, no look you got a lot to learn but you're not going to learn it at my expense We keep the press agent After about five months around town, I got him a shot at one of the big hotels in vegas where he well He also knocked him dead up there, too Out of the prices he was getting it almost broke my heart to call him back But the way things stacked up. I thought it would be Well, it'd be for the best We met my office the three of us arlen kassen and I You know what we found arlen a little changed Uh, don't see why you keep it.  You ought to have a big plush office on larcy aniga Something with a little class you can afford it now. Hey, hey, hey, this suits me just fine. I've always liked this office You would all right. Come on. Let's get down the cases. Yeah, I got your telegram say kassen I heard one in vegas. You got to work into my monologue.  What's the matter with you? You know, you're the glummiest gag writer I ever saw. How about this guy don ever seem smile Don, I don't think he's gonna last 39 weeks. This punk's so filled up with himself it'll explode before that punk I'm your bread and butter. All right. That's enough both of you cut it out. We've got some business to discuss You heard what he called me get up with him some other time right now. We're gonna talk business Well, let's get it over with then. I've got a date A date. Yeah, I'm taking your secretary after lunch. This gives us just one hour Oh, well, I think we can do a little better than that Beverly. Yes, mr.  Well, thank you mr. Moffitt, but I Mr. Mott will be a little too busy to have lunch today. He'll honor you with his company some other time perhaps tomorrow All right Just who do you think you are? He's only the guy who pulled you from 25 dollars a week to 3000 Okay, gentlemen, we have a commercial weekly half hour television commitment to talk about shall we get to it? Things went all right for a while Maybe it was a little rough, but at least we got through the first two or three shows Men it happened just the way Bill Cassin said it would Arland Mott got so filled up with himself. He exploded That camera just doesn't move in fast enough. How many times do I have to tell you? Believe me. It looks fine Fine the whole dad will fall flat on its face. That's how fine it'll look You on the camera try once more You've been like this all day directing him is like trying to Well, it's like nothing I've ever done. I've just about had it with your boy You've been giving a real hard time, huh? Not only me. That's the first violin directing the orchestra The conductor he couldn't take anymore. He walked out. I'm about to well No, it'll play fine the way it is Look so far today just about everything on the show has been half bank The script the score now the direction Well, it's got to stop some place that's all Where are you going? I'm going home Money just isn't so important to me that I have to take that from him Now wait a second let him go I can drag any guy in from the street and see a better job at direction than he's been showing me Try it. Mr. Mott or try directing it yourself.  The next buck you make will be from selling your hoofs for glue Bum, what are you trying to do protect myself? That's what i'm trying to do when a man's got a name. He's got to protect it Yeah, well you're doing a great job of protection. What do you know about it? You've never been in front of a live audience in your life You don't know what it's like to earn a living anymore. Well, that does it. Goodbye, Arlen. Where are you going? Somewhere where the air is a little cleaner. Wait, you got something to say You're not cutting out on me too. That's exactly what i'm doing. Oh come on in the dressing room Let's talk this thing. Tell you what you go into the dressing room and think it out You're throwing away 10 percent of a pretty hot item. Yeah, well, I'll go home now and have myself a good cry Don, goodbye Arlen You missed him often? Oh, I bet. I forgot you were here. I um Couldn't help hearing what just went on. Yeah, well, we've got a lot of other clients, but Aren't you even going to talk to him? No, there's no point in it. You think I should? I think so Look, they're There isn't anything between you two is it? No I thought there was for a while, but now the only thing I feel from is pity. Pity? He's got a problem problem. You mean in his head.  Moffat. Maybe you shouldn't have hit the big time quite so fast Well, you've got some of the responsibility too. You helped give him the problem.   Will you maybe I'll buy you a cup of coffee and let you know how the whole thing turned out Good luck. Thanks, hon Hey punk Still in there. Aren't you done? Yeah, it's me.    You know what you're gonna tell him You're gonna tell him. He's so good. You actually believe the publicity you got for you Now now don't wait on me. No, no, I haven't even started yet You and I well, we're gonna have a little history lesson about some of the other comics Who got real big headed with their television shows.  Big shot you and I are gonna have a talk about you Well, like I said, this seems to be the season for stories about comedians. I suppose that's why I'm telling you this one now Arland's problem Well, it was a problem most people have to face at least once in their lifetime It's got a lot of names swell head vein glory pride No matter what you call it. It's a tough one to whip I help arland beat the thing every week It's based on a custom invented by the romans when a general returned from a successful campaign and made his triumphal entry into Rome writing his chariot right through the cheering crowds There'd be a slave squatting in the front of the chariot out of sight. He'd keep saying the same thing over and over remember Thou art only human We use the same method only I guess a little bit more so Well, the show ought to be just about over by now. I guess we better get back inside, huh? Couldn't have been better of funnier show yet Now you see what I mean I have to go neutralize all that He's couldn't have done it without you, you know Hey, Don, wait. See you later, Don Yeah, oh Bill, I want to see you Don, catch the show? I couldn't stay for the whole thing but from what I saw I hope you're saving your money That bad? I'm glad I've got other clients I don't know Arland script was good. Everything was good, but your delivery it needs a lot of work Come on in the dressing room and tell me about it In a minute Right, I'll be getting this makeup boss See what I mean Crazy, but it works. He's turned into a real nice guy Well, back to work What are you talking to? Never mind. Let's talk about the way you butchered Bill Casson's script Linda Hopper whips up a new hat She takes a couple of everyday ordinary things like a tomato or a green apple Mixes it with a bunch of ribbon and lo and behold It's suddenly something that would do justice to John Frederick's or Lily Dashay Lots of husbands have seen their wives do the same thing And then too you read every now and then how some scientist mixes a concoction of ordinary things A sort of cocktail made of waste products and out of his magic test tube Come some application never heard of before Jewels out of sawdust perfume out of coal tar Medicine out of weeds or mold You never realize the beauty and the value of things until you experiment until you try them That's pretty much the same way about prayer Have you noticed lately how in the field of medicine the psychologist and the psychiatrist have been rediscovering the value of prayer But prayer has been there all the time Just for everyone's taking It's ironic to think that persons will accept prayer On the basis of an up-to-the-minute medical authority when for as long as they can remember religious authorities Have told them the same thing Yes, prayer is one of the forces of life itself But you've got to use it to get its benefits The jewel of a happy home life The perfume of uplifted hearts Medicine for a sick world Use prayer for your family life For the family that prays together Stays together More things are wrought by prayer than this world dreams of From Hollywood family theater has brought you transcribed last one in line starring dean miller Lucille ball was your hostess Others in our cast were a bill bacham Alice backis jack carol and jason johnson The script was written and directed for family theater by robert huo sullivan with music composed and conducted by harry zimmerman This series of family theater broadcasts is made possible by the thousands of you who feel the need for this type of program By the mutual network which has responded to this need and by the hundreds of stars of stage screen and radio Who give so unselfishly of their time and talent to appear on our family theater stage to them and to you our humble thanks This is tony lefranl expressing the wish of family theater That the blessings of god may be upon you and your home and inviting you to join us next week when family theater will present Retired starring edgar bucannon jack bailey will be your host join us won't you? 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You're not gay, right? That's not your business. Oh. But you make the gayness a lot of people's business when you discuss there. No, I don't. I make it no one's business. Do you want to act like a man? Do you live in hell? Do you want to act like a man? Do you want to, hey, look, look. I put aside my time. I thought you wanted to deal with issues to health folks. Mm-hmm. Is there anything else you want to talk about? Yes. I don't want to play the woman's game with you. You just watched Ethan Klein of the H3 podcast confront right-wing pastor and commentator Jesse Lee Peterson about his sexuality. And as you saw, he got real defensive. Now, for those not aware about Jesse Lee Peterson, he is a Trump-supporting radio host that focuses a lot of time and energy on demonizing queer people.  The spirit of homosexuality is of their father the devil. It's not them, the person. It's the spirit that made a home in them. And it came from them overreacting to some sort of a situation in life, whether it's from someone messing with them when they were kids or overreacting to an angry mother because you become like what you hate. So it's an evil spirit and they can overcome it if they don't accept it as a right. They have to see that, yes, they're stuck into it, but it's something wrong with it. And in that they're able to overcome it. God will remove that spirit away from them. Well, apparently God didn't remove the evil gay spirit from Jesse Lee Peterson.  Now, the oopsie that he made occurred on one day when he apparently forgot to log into his burner account or thought that he was logged in and didn't pay attention, but he ended up liking some gay tweets on his public Twitter account.  Oh, they are very, very gay, my friends.   And after realizing the horrible mistake he made in the moment of post-nut clarity, he abruptly locked down his entire Twitter account. Now, it's not the first time that a homophobe has been exposed as a closet case, and it won't be the last.   But things got even worse for Jesse Lee Peterson because in July of 2022, the Daily Beast reported, quote, two of Peterson's former male associates came out in June with on-the-record interviews saying they engaged in sexual activities with him while other men say he propositioned them. And the men who Jesse Lee Peterson allegedly propositioned and made unwanted sexual advances towards went on the record in a 26-minute-long documentary produced by a right-wing Catholic website. And I'll link to that down below. We don't have time to watch that. But they basically detail how this man is pretty open and aggressive about his sexuality. Now, after that story came out from the Daily Beast, others decided to speak out, one of them being David Pakman, who shared his experience about how Hansy Peterson was with him when he was in L.A. at his studio to be on his show. Was he Hansy at his office? He was. He kept, you know, when we took pictures, he was sort of, like, weirdly hugging me, arm around me in a way that's, like, it's not... It doesn't raise any red flag. I didn't think he was coming on to me. I didn't feel intimidated or whatever. There were people around. But it was just, like, it was the first time I was meeting him, and he was a little bit Hansy, and I didn't really think anything of it. Now, in this context, maybe that was something sort of different. He was kind of, like, whispering into my ear, like, not sweet nothings. It was actually about Trump. He was like, and I've said this before, like, you're going to vote for Trump, aren't you, David? You're going to vote for Trump. And I quite literally thought absolutely nothing of it. Like, nothing at all, like what people are describing. The atmosphere at his office with young men kind of hanging around, the fact that he counsels young men with Christian counseling, I did find it all weird. Now, David Pakman also explains that he didn't really make much of Peterson's handsiness at the time. But in light of all of this new information that came out, it kind of really makes you rethink the situation in a new contextual light. Now, at that point, the damn burst, right?  It was an open secret at this point. And before, when you searched Jesse Lee Peterson on YouTube, you would find dozens of videos of him talking about the evils of homosexuality.  And yes, I'm very proud of my contribution to this important discourse. But despite all of this, Jesse Lee Peterson still continued to pretend as if none of this happened and just kept preaching hate. It is absolutely wild.  And he was completely unbothered by it. He just disconnected the call, brushed it aside and kept going. It was astonishing to me that somebody could be so hateful publicly while being very gay privately and just have no shame about that, right? He knows that we all know he's a hypocrite and it doesn't really seem to bother him.   Now you already got a taste of what he said in that first clip and as you saw, he got really defensive.  When somebody asks you if you're gay, you're going to say, of course I'm straight. But Jesse Lee Peterson kind of got a sense of where this was going up to that point and it got even worse as that clip went on. So it's going to get very awkward when his producer steps in after Ethan brings up the gay porn tweets and just take a look at what happens. It is genuinely insane. So, well, let me ask you this because I know you have any other topic. One last time, you could talk to your brother about Moses about this and he'll help you deal with that and overcome it. Yeah. Jesse, why did you like this? Why did you like this tweet by your daddy-only fans?   He's giving a thumbs up. And she will. Jesse, why did you like this post from your daddy-only fans? Part two was Sean Boy, UK. I have no idea what they're doing. It's two men kissing. I have no idea what they're doing. And they're muscular and very bare-locked. They really think that you're like running your Twitter and stuff. I have no idea. Really? Wait, why wouldn't you why wouldn't you be running your Twitter? You really think he would? Is the producer gay? What makes you think he is? Oh, so did you like it? Yeah, did you like it?  I don't know. I have no idea. Bro thought he was cooking right there. Well, Jesse, this is important. The people want to know. Your producer got real quiet.  Self-report. It was one of you two. Someone fasts up. They're hanging up. Someone fasts up. That's what you want me to do. So you can say I ran. But you guys said you want to talk about real stuff. This is real, man. This is a real tweet that was liked. Jesse, in an expose by the Daily Beast, they said that several men had had sexual encounters with you some as long as 10 years. Is that true? Say hello to Mosie, buddy. I'm out. All right. Was he a producer? Oh, he hung up. Damn. Now, when I saw this clip for the first time, my jaw was on the floor because so much had happened in such a short amount of time that it was difficult to process everything that we just saw. So first and foremost, I love that Jesse Lee Peterson initially considered sticking around for a while, saying, I don't want to give you what you want by running or something to that effect. But then, you know, things got a little bit too hot for him and he didn't want the smoke, so he decided to bail, which doesn't necessarily help convince his viewers that the allegations are false. Now, listen, the reason why this is so much more devastating for Jesse Lee Peterson is because on his own show, he gets left-wingers calling in to debate him all the time.  But when you go on a very large podcast and they provide the receipts and you get that defensive and you bail, that puts things in a very different light. Even if you didn't believe all the other things that we saw about Jesse Lee Peterson. Now, the way that Ethan's producer, Dan Czech, made a Jesse's producer was Chef's Kiss. It was so weird that his producer chimed in to defend him and Jesse Lee Peterson, if you noticed, looked over to his producer because things were getting a little bit too spicy. So, you know, he didn't know how to handle it, so his producer had to say, oh, you think that he's running his public Twitter account?  Like, none of this makes sense if you actually believe that he did what he did and he did because we all have the receipts. But listen, even though this is so embarrassing for Jesse Lee Peterson, I fully expect him to do what he's been doing all this time. He's gonna keep pretending like none of this happened and he's gonna keep reaching hate.  Be very careful with what you do because the second you let the mask slip, we will all expose you. Jesse Lee Peterson isn't the only gay homophobe who has a very big platform. Chai Rychik already inadvertently told on herself one time during an appearance on Tucker Carlson when she claimed that LGBTQ plus content was alluring to minors, hence why they shouldn't see it. But that's such an interesting word to use because you wouldn't think that that kind of content is alluring if you were actually straight. You'd only think it's alluring if you're gay and tempted by it, right? So a lot of times, the loudest homophobes, they get a little bit too conspicuous and they don't even realize it. And I get that they are externalizing their internal struggles and it's really unfortunate for them that they can't accept themselves. But if they're going to make their battles all of our problems, I think we have a responsibility to expose them and out them if they give us the ammunition, if they provide us with evidence. And we have the receipts. So, you know, Jesse Lee Peterson is getting that treatment right now and I can only wonder who's next.


I think the first thing is to review and approve the agenda. So is there any other any changes to the agenda? Looks good to me. Okay. Did you add John's liquor license? Yeah, I am. Yeah, so that'll be. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Together with the consent agenda. But otherwise should be on there. I just can't see it. So. Right. So without objection, we'll consider the agenda approved. And so we're on to general business and appearances. So an opportunity for. Any member of the public to address council, but it looks like we are pretty thin. On. Members. Well, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Any member of the public to address council on a topic, not on the agenda. Yeah, Donna. Just. A public comment I received, but it does have to do with an agenda item before we go into executive session. Okay. Probably you want it then. Okay. Yeah. That'd be good. Any other comments? Okay. Okay. And it'll, it's on the website now. And we'll be publicizing. Great. Okay. So with that, we will move on then. To the consent agenda is their motion. Move the consent agenda. Got a motion and a second. Any further discussion. Any further discussion? John email this about, but also are included. So. Any further discussion? Okay. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. And opposed. Okay. So the consent agenda passes. And so now we are on to the city manager's annual review. And so. Yes. Jack. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We're pursuant to one BSA section three 13. I move to enter executive concession to consider the evaluation of a public officer or employee. Second. Motion and second. Yes, Donna. The discussion would be, I got a call from Stephen Whitaker. Wanted to say he had some comments, but he would wait for it till next year because this year was. Yeah. Yeah. No standing issues. Okay. All right. Any further discussion? Okay. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. And opposed. All right. So I do anticipate that when we are done, we will return to public session. Okay. So we are otherwise going to leave this call. I will hear and hold the bless you and hold the call open. Oh, thank you, Cameron. I mean, yeah. Okay. Thank you. We're doing that. All right. And so we are going to depart and I'll see you. Most of you and the exact executive session back into public session. I would like to move that the council. State or at determined pursuant to paragraph to a. Resection two way of the employment agreement. That the count, the city manager has the full confidence. Of the council and that it is our intention to. Extend or renew the contract at when it terminates. Okay. Okay. So we're going to move that down and then. The. Terms of the renewed or extended contact will be negotiated with the manager. Is there a second? I'll second. Okay. For the discussion. Um, Go ahead. Yes. Sorry. It's just going to say, I'm, I'm recusing myself from. This vote. I'll be recusing myself from any negotiation, any. Any partner negotiations. For bills contract due to. A preexisting. Um, personal situation. Um, in that, um, I represented bill prior to entering the council. And so. Um, I'm just simply going to refuse myself from any of these contract negotiations. And I. I just wanted to put that on the public record and did not participate in that. In, in the executive session to that extent. Okay. Uh, so thank you. Any further discussion. I'll just say for the record, since the contract calls says that both the employee and the employer will state. Their intent that I agree with that intent. And I. I'm pleased to have the council's confidence and I'm pleased to continue working with them. And I'm pleased to have the council's confidence and I'm pleased to have the council's confidence and I'm pleased to have the council's confidence and I'm pleased to have the council's confidence. And it's my intent to extend. And renew beyond. March 1st, 2022, as well. Do we have to do a roll call because it's not unanimous. I think we probably should. Um, but we have not yet taken the vote. I figure we'll take the vote and then we'll do the roll call. So any further discussion. Well, it'll be a unanimous of those voting. True. Whatever. Okay. We'll be safe. Exactly. Doesn't hurt, right? Okay. Any further discussion. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. And opposed. And abstaining. All right. Uh, so we're just going to do a quick roll call. Say your names as you appear on my screen. Uh, all right. Uh, Jay. Hi. Dan. I abstain. All right. Jack. Hi. Lauren. Hi. Connor. Hi. Donna. Hi. Okay. Uh, so that motion passes. Um, uh, I just want to say publicly. Uh, that so. We are so thankful to have you as our city manager bill. And. Um, I'm really proud and grateful of the work that you and the staff as well have, have done. Um, over the past year. So thank you. And. Um, We look forward to continuing to work together. Um, Thank you very much for those kind words and thank you to the staff. They make me look good. So couldn't do it. Really the backbone, the operation. And just take the blame for you. All right. And, uh, I heard some folks say that, uh, It'd be great if we. Oh, I want to be, so there, um, There is council reports on the, uh, agenda, but, um, I think without objection, uh, Maybe we will just skip that item. Is that okay team? Yes. Okay. Very good. Um, John, Is there anything you would like to say? No. Okay. Great. Um, bill. Again, thank you. It's a privilege to work here and to work with all of you. Super. All right. So without, uh, objection, We are going to adjourn this meeting at nine 42. Thanks everybody. Great. Have a great night. See you next week. Thank you.


Our next speaker is someone who has endured a huge amount of stress, difficulty, hardship as a result of being somebody who has always championed the oppressed. He has used his incredible information technology skills, his intelligence and importantly his character to stand up for what is right and I'm really honoured to welcome to our panel Lauri Love. Hello everybody, can you hear me? So firstly apologies for being somewhat delayed. Traffic and other things conspired to be later than I planned to be. I'm thankful to be invited and honoured to be sitting amongst such distinguished individuals and may I say comrades and to paraphrase Oscar Wilde, aka Hacker, I am a Hacker, I do not deny it. I clave it with pride, so I define Hacker to be someone who sees technology not just as a product that is given to them in a way that was designed by another to serve some other purpose but has an open possibility to be taken apart, put back together, new and interesting ways to change the world, hopefully for good. It was in that spirit of the Hacker as one who can forge a path in the frontiers of a world that is ever changing because of technology that I joined the internet at a tender early age in the 90s and was inspired by the likes of Julian Sange, by the likes of John Perrivale who wrote the Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace. She's too long, I'd love to read it before but we don't have time. The basic thesis was that there is a new world, a new digital world where everyone is brought together, everyone has in potential an equal footing, an equal ability to associate to exercise freedom of speech, to enrich themselves through access of information and to dream, and by dreaming bring about a different world. This new space, this new cyberspace must be free from the anchors that have weighed down societies, the agenda, the limitations of region, factionalism, divisions of ethnicity, language, religion, and mundane politics and greed. So these people, these pioneers, some called cypherpunks, called cypherpunks because they used the science of cryptology, cryptography, cyphers and beyond cyphers the ability to design systems so that there isn't a need to trust, there isn't a need to depend on powers and authorities being benevolent and being in our best interest that we can take the power into our own hands to communicate one with another securely, to create our own infrastructure for the collection and dissemination of information. And so Julian Assange inspired me through his early work in cryptography but obviously through WikiLeaks when, as we all know, they broke through the mould, the restrictions of the press that has unfortunately become suborned and secondary and subverted and corrupted by power and influence, you know, Fausti impact for access or to have a comfortable life or because of the group thing that comes out of them being a very specialised class, shall we say, that is exclusive of many different people, but you've heard of that much better people than me. I will salute my comrade Chris Williamson who I met at the rebel tent at the Beautiful Days Festival before he had been drummed out of the Labour Party for standing up for the rights of the Palestinian people. And so he knows firsthand what it's like for media to be complicit in a campaign of bad faith in New Endo and in a taboo. This is what we see against Julian Assange. My personal story in this connection began with the tragic event that we are trying to prevent here, which is the avoidable loss of life of a courageous truth-teller by the name of Aaron Swartz, who was a young internet vendor king in the United States who helped design some of the protocols that we still use on the web today, RSS, but then went into activism not maybe out of predilection or because he wanted to be involved in politics but out of a sense of necessity because he wanted to, again, bring about this better world through the internet. And he helped stand up against some bad legislation that the United States Congress was bringing in to curtail internet freedoms and to empower the copyright cartel and the security industries to undermine users' rights. Because he was so successful, because he had been associated with creating technologies to enable whistle-blowing, to enable the conveying of information securely to outlets such as WikiLeaks, technology we now call SecureDrop that is used all over the world. They had a pretext to arrest him for downloading scientific journal articles from a library computer system at MIT. And he was hounded to death by an overzealous prosecutor and because he was in the bad books of people in power that wanted to make an example of someone so that others would not be so courageous because he had been an inspiration to others. So it was after Aaron Schwartz's death that there was a campaign on the internet, a hacktivist campaign, shall we say, under the banner and branding of Anonymous trying to make, shall we say, a faucet point through the exercise of political speech through means and methods considered outside of the acceptable ones, but non-destructively, but certainly getting a message out there on various government computer websites, saying that something has to change and just to summarize it, the reason why Aaron was able to be forced into the tragic decision he made to end his own life was because the United States federal justice system, I have to put the air quotes around justice in my head, operates under a coercive plea bargaining system where by 97% of federal criminal defendants do not even see their day in court, do not stand before a jury of their peers to be judged by their peers after an adversarial system of evidence, an argument and contention and findings of fact.  Ninety-nine years as I faced for allegedly speaking up about this and then over 100 years as Julian Assange faces for giving world evidence of war crimes, of torture and horrific things done in their name with their tax money ostensibly in the interest of safeguarding freedom and democracy. And so it was delightfully ironic, as we say, having a British understatement when I found myself subject to that same, potentially subject to that same American injustice system when after they failed to bring charges against me in the United Kingdom because I didn't agree to subvert my own use of cryptography because I believe that people have a right, not only a right but a responsibility to store data securely against robbers, against abusive partners and against an abusive state. So having not helped our lovely national crime agency put me in prison here, I had the three remarkably similarly dressed people in trainers and short back-and-sides turn up to my door and say that they were taking me back to America as they didn't seem to appreciate. This was the Metropolitan Police's extradition squad. I didn't seem to appreciate that I hadn't been to America and then likely never will. But regardless of the fact that I hadn't been to America and as such under the common sense understanding of how criminal justice should work could not have broken their laws, which if they have validity anywhere, that validity must surely end up their borders and not extend across the world. But somehow I was, regardless, taken to the police station, taken to Westminster Manchurates Court. My parents had to cough up significant for them, some of money less significant than the amount that had to be coughed up for our friend Julian. But regardless, I had to go to prison for a short time until the bail was secured. And I had the privilege of being able to prepare for the five-year process as it ultimately took to fight the sex tradition with some limited freedom, just having to travel to a police station quite often to sign bits of paper and give up my passports. But at least I was able to access my lawyers to access the press, to access the internet. Although they did try to ban me from the internet, didn't quite work. And so I had to go through the process that Julian has gone through and is now, we hope, and confidently have faith is coming to the right conclusion. And so I'll just speak briefly as to why that process is harrowing in ways that hopefully are not too redundant with what our other comrades have said. So firstly, we might have this naive expectation from watching so much propaganda we see on the television of law and order programs and other attempts to whitewash and romanticize how justice is run by the state. But when you go to a court, there will be some effort at objectivity and there will be some attempt to have fairness. There will be a judge whose job is to ensure that there is no foul play, there is no systematic attempts to distort the truth and that the process shall be fair, that justice should be vile and that all should be equal before the law. Unfortunately, this is not the case at the best of times. Certainly not for people that don't have the privilege that I have of being white and sort of middle-class, out-league and male. But in the case of extradition against the United States, there is not even the pretense of a fair process because the treaty was renegotiated in the wake of the war on terror, the war on terror or the war on terror, the plan in Earth that was engaged upon by George W. Bush and Tony Blair and the other lackeys in the Coalition of the Willing had been the agenda of the people behind those convenience. Representatives for some time and continues to be their agenda. And it was renegotiated such that there is no requirement for the United States to prove even the lowest definition of there being an answerable case, which is the legal term of a prima facie case, on the face of it that there is evidence to believe that this person has committed a crime in this jurisdiction that should be answerable in this jurisdiction and therefore the court should have faith that they will receive a fair trial on the other side of that process. Because this requirement was taken away, it meant that I had to sit in that goldfish bowl at Westminster Magistrate Court as Julian has had to sit and observe a long sequence of lies and distortions and dissimulations be trotted out and be unable to stand up in frustration. As I saw Julian do and felt very much how I felt in that situation, the need to say, hold on a minute. It's not even false. It doesn't even make sense what you're saying here. It's not even conceptually cogent, et cetera. Instead, you have to let the process unfold and you have to let the arguments be argued that are able to be argued because the court will not entertain such obvious arguments already mentioned as they're the matter of jurisdiction. The jurisdiction in the case of America attempting to try people in their corrupted, unjust criminal courts for actions undertaken while not in their country is called exorbitant jurisdiction or extraterritorial jurisdiction. It should be an easy reason to throw the case out. The disparity in sentences to be extradited has to be what's called dual criminality. It has to be equally an offence in the requesting country as the requested country. But they do not take into consideration an equal crime if in this country, for example, for the offences I was accused of, one might receive a custodial sentence of 36 months, whereas in the requesting country one might expect to spend the rest of their life in a concrete box. This is not equivalent in any way. But that argument could not be argued. It could not be argued, as was mentioned, that this is clearly a political offence. There's a good punk song from the 90s by Skunk and Nancy that says, I won't use the swear word, but yes, it's freaking political. Everything's political. There is not an act of truth-telling that isn't political, especially when that truth-telling is about the ways in which politics has perpetrated horrific abuses and the so-called measures that are supposed to hold them in check. The cherished Fourth Estate has not just failed to provide that necessary check and balance to power, but has become complicit in its exercise. Again, as we've heard so eloquently. So, in the absence of any of these quite reasonable arguments, it had to come down to the question of an incredibly relevant and important question whether someone might survive incarceration in that system, survive even the process before they are sentenced under colour of law, which involves sitting in the jails, going through protracted trials designed to wear you down and to destroy you. In my case, the place that I would be expected to go and the place where Julian would be expected to go if he were to be extradited is a horrific institution in New York called the Metropolitan Corrections and Detention Centre, where people who watch the news may know that someone recently did commit suicide. The infamous Jeffrey Epstein was certainly killed in that institution despite in my extradition there being great pains taken to suggest that this is a safe place to put someone that if you are suicidal quite understandably because you've been taken away from your country and your family to a place you've never been to be torn down and tortured by strangers for trying to do the right thing that you might find yourself lacking any more in any hope knowing that your life has been reduced from all its possible value, all its possible capacity to being an example to others to scare them out of similar acts of courage that you might then want to take that way out and not sit through that for the rest of your life. And so it was found in my case that despite the great efforts made by the prosecutors to suggest that it's all hunky dory and it's a ring-a-ring of roses, not ring-a-ring roses, but nursery rhymes and kumbaya in this detention system that actually, you know, it is horrific that when somebody is deemed to be suicidal quite understandably many are, most will actually attempt to cover this up because the so-called treatment to make you safe is to put you on suicide watch. And suicide watch is unfortunately just a euphemism for another kind of solitary confinement where you are taken away from society, taken away from any group activities and you are kept in another small cell not allowed outside and watched night and day until you find this so torturous that you will make out that you are feeling much better and go back into the general company of the prison and it is at that point that people sadly affect their suicides and they do so in numbers that would make you sigh if you would have had to look into it as I have had to. And so in my case, I lost in the first instance at Westminster Magistrate's Court as was to be expected because until the case of Gary McKinnon another person who was accused of hacking not out of any criminal or malicious intent but to seek after truth before his case which had to be stopped by a political intervention by Theresa May and perhaps the one good thing that she didn't occur in but opinions made of her. There had been an expectation that the United States would win it was just the default presumption. After Gary McKinnon's case they took away the discretion of the Home Secretary to consider the human rights implications and I have to spell this out and I'm sorry I won't be much longer but I have to spell this out because of how calf-esque it is. So whereas before it is and remains both a judicial and a political decision to render up a citizen or a subject of one nation-state, of one sovereign territory to another judicial because it requires an assessment or should require an assessment of facts and evidence and political because it's necessarily a transaction between states and so the final check was that the Home Secretary would be obliged to make that final decision to underwrite that final decision to put their signature or their stamp on it and they would be required under human rights law in this country stemming from the European Declaration of Human Rights and the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights and stemming from case law that says that all decisions of the executive must act in accordance with human rights. They had to consider whether somebody's right to life and dignity and other human rights would be infringed by this extradition and the government took away this requirement and so we had to write a letter to the Home Secretary and we received a reply saying I'm very much aware of the circumstances and unfortunately my hands are tied and I cannot consider whether the likelihood of you dying as a result of me signing this paper is a reason not to do so. So that just baffles me that this is somehow considered to be in line with our even our unwritten constitution. But we lost and it went to an appeal and the only reason we really managed to get it to an appeal I should say is because I was supported and I owe a great debt to not just many people such as yourselves I mean many of you sit with the same people I recognise and I'm thankful to see again but also because an organisation that was set up by Julian and WikiLeaks in the wake of Edward Snowden's flight and his flight and being rendered stateless in Moscow after they tried to or they successfully took down a plane of a president of another sovereign country in Latin America to try and get him. The fund was raised for him and an organisation called the Courage Foundation was created to stand up for whistleblowers and people involved in truth telling and it was through their support that we managed to organise a campaign similar to the campaign that I'm seeing in front of me whereby it was brought to impress upon the courts that this is not just a matter that they can rule with unscrupulously and expect to get away with because people are watching and people care and people stand up for what is right and demand not free violence but not passively either but forcibly through their voices and their physical presence and their ability to speak as people here are speaking about what is right and to make others listen and to have them see. And so after another few more years of powering process before a panel of judges on the Court of Appeals Mr Justice Uesley, Kentankaris, old gentleman who was so far in the prime of his years that he didn't care about upsetting the whatever special relationship politics might require deference to the United States and the newly elected Lord Chief Justice of England and Wales or Judge E. McJugg's face as I enduringly call him and I was happy to see this week that he is also on the panel that we'll be hearing the case tomorrow and Thursday and if they let me into that courtroom I will look him in the eyes and remind him subliminally the decision that he and Mr Justice Uesley came to which was and I will quote that it would be unjust and oppressive unjust and oppressive being precise judicial jurisprudential precise legal language be unjust and oppressive in light of our obligations under human rights to send someone such as myself and someone as is now argued such as Julian to face such dehumanizing and torturous conditions as to make it in light of our character our disposition history of mental health or mental uniqueness shall we say that there could not be a reasonable assurance of the preservation of their life and and so I hope that this will hold in this appeal that the grounds by which this extradition was refused in the magistrates court that it would be unsafe to send Julian assigned to this horrific regime to render him onto the same regime whose war crimes he reported something that would be beyond the ability of anyone to consider for any other country in the United States that they will be found that this cannot be done and so I hope to be with you when we see that outcome.


I'm Alexander Bellon. I work for BellyBray. I will speak about Grebus for IoT. So, first I will just introduce quickly Grebus and why we started. And then I will explain why we may use it for IoT. Okay, first, everything begin with the project ARA. So, the goal of the project ARA was to start a modular phone. So, the goal was to have an interchangeable module. The module could be add or removed at runtime before to switch off the phone. And the goal was to support any type of module such as the screen, camera, even the AP was supposed to be a module at the beginning. So, to make that work, we had to develop a new protocol, Grebus. The role of Grebus was to manage the modules and to add them, remove them. So, features of Grebus was mainly hotplug and hot-remove. The module discovery, when you insert the module in the phone, to detect it, to prepare it to be connected to other modules such as the IP. And the module provides a lot of class and protocols. And that's the main interesting thing with Grebus. So, here is the list of protocols and classes supported by Grebus. For IoT, I think most interesting classes are probably GPIO, SPI, SQC. It's really common bus used in IoT. So, what is interesting with these classes is when you insert a module, Grebus will do everything. If you insert a module with SPI protocol, Grebus will automatically create SPI controller. So, after that, you don't have to do anything except use the SPI controller. So, why Grebus may be useful for IoT? First, because it's free. Everything is open source, everything is free of use. Even because the project dies, there is no anymore Google to try to control it. So, it's only owned by the community. It's documented. There is a lot of documentation. It's a good specification because the goal was to create a standard when we... So, there is everything that is highly documented and you can start... If you read the documentation, you can write everything. It's very good. Now, it's merged to kernel. It's in a staging. So, you can use it now. That's good. And the main interest of using Grebus for IoT is to keep the intelligence in the host. And the microcontroller used in IoT, there is some memory constraints, power constraints. So, the goal here is to use your Linux as a gateway to control the other device you may have on your IoT device. So, you can use the SPI protocol to access to your sensor. And the driver of the sensor will remain on Linux. And that's very interesting because most of the sensors already have drivers in Linux. So, you don't have to write anything if it's already supported. And when everything is totally made, it just works.  Nothing else to do. It's easy. My goal was to have for this speech a demo. Unfortunately, I've been stuck with Bluetooth. I've not been able to make it work on this board. But it's still a good example of what we can do with Grebus. So, on this board, there is plenty of sensors. This board has been made by TI for IoT. And there is a motion sensor. There is a pressure sensor and some other kind of sensor. Most of these sensors are on the I2C bus. And with Grebus, we could use them directly on the host. So, there is a little schematic of what we can do. So, we have four sensors on I2C bus. So, we have nothing to do. The OS already provides some drivers to use the I2C bus. The only thing there is to do is just to implement Grebus to control the I2C bus. So, not all of it to do. I will show an example later. The Grebus protocol has been made by kernel people. So, some of the protocol is really similar to what we already have in Linux. I mean GPIO is a good example because it's almost similar. You have GPIO set, set value, GPIO set direction, things like that. So, even for kernel people, it could be easy to implement it in firmware. And on the host side, again, except the change I've made for IoT, there is nothing to do. Grebus will do everything. And then, for our sensors, the I2C controller will be created when we will start the module. And then, you will be able to bind the driver with, and then use IIO to access to all your sensors. The four sensors on here are already supported by Linux. So, nothing to do here except to bind the driver to IIO. Because I2C is not a plug protocol. There is no way to do device discovery. So, you just have to bind the driver. And that's it. I need to speak about Unipro, because when we start the project, we choose Unipro as a transport as a bus for the modules. So, most of the things in Grebus currently are made for Unipro. And that's a big part of what I did is to try to translate Unipro things in something else such as TCPIP or Bluetooth. So, Unipro is an interconnect to use in the mobile phone to interconnect IC. In the project area, you will use it. Actually, there is some other application of Unipro. I mean, there is UFS that is an application layer that uses Unipro for flash system to connect flash to the IP. There is some other application. I don't know if there is a note such as CSI and DSI. And the goal when we start to Grebus was to add the Grebus to this list. So, Unipro is a nice speed interface with high bandwidth. It's supposed to be low power, but it doesn't support hot plugs and actually it's not made at all for modular things. That's why the Grebus was needed. So, the topology of Grebus. First, everything is supposed to be modular. The IP was a module and then all the modules are around the switch, the Unipro switch. And so, you can interconnect a module with the IP or two modules. And there is the SVC that is a key component. The SVC is a microcontroller that is supposed to detect a module to create a route between two modules and things like that. So, to use Grebus for IoT, I had to change that because obviously we don't want to add a microcontroller to do such things. So, instead I did everything in software and I removed the capability of the IP to be a module. No, IP is just sort of gateway and we plug module on this gateway. Connection of module maybe actually it's Bluetooth or TCP IP. I think we can add other way to connect quickly, easily. I think there is some other radio protocols that are used in IoT such as ZigBee. So, I think it's just we just need to add another layer for ZigBee, for example. Yeah, I'm working on BLE at this moment. So, here is how we are describing Grebus module, device. First, we have the device and the device may have one or more interfaces. Actually, for IoT, we don't care. We need one interfaces. For RARA, we had the ability to have one or more interfaces because of size modules. Some of modules had two physical interfaces, so we were able to use two newly pro interfaces and sometimes to improve performances or to do dedicated things. Here for IoT, we only use one interfaces. And then, the most important part of the Grebus description, I mean, is the bundle. So, the model is the place where we define what class we want to use. So, we are here in my sample. I have two bundles. The bundle zero is the only one mandatory. It's the control bundle. When you insert a module, Grebus will use this bundle to load the... Sorry. So, the bundle zero is used for the control protocol. The control protocol is used by Grebus to get the manifest. The manifest describes the list of the bundle we have in your device and will be used by Grebus to create all the interface we want. And inside the bundle, you can have one or more support. Support is something specific to Unipro, but it's really similar to Socket in terms of TCP-IP. So, it's used in the same way. And to each support, we assign a protocol. So, the bundle defines the class and the class may have one or more protocol. So, a good example for IoT is the class GBFI. And the GBFI, you can use the protocol GPIO protocol, I2C and things like that. When you insert a module in Grebus, it will add some entry in CFS. I will not detail that. But by using the CFS, you can access to every interesting information about your Grebus device, such as vendor ID, product ID, kind of protocol, your device support.  So, the manifest is used to describe your device. So, in this example, the most important thing is the support descriptor. Here, I'm using the GPIO protocol and the bundle descriptor that is using GBFI class. So, when Grebus will see this manifest, it will create the GPIO controller. And from here, on the host, we will be able to use GPIO remotely. So, if we continue with the GPIO sample, if your kernel is compiled with GPIO class, you can directly control your new GPIO controller only by using CFS. And so, there is nothing more to do, magic. Now, if we take a look in the firmware, the protocol of GPIO is quite simple. And, as I said, it's really similar to what we have in Linux. So, here is just an example of what I'm doing in Nautix, the way we were using for Project Ara, just to set up, to set the direction and the value of GPIO. Another interesting part, so currently, Grebus is still a work in progress. We have worked on Grebus for two years. There is still a lot of things to do. And even on my side, Grebus for IoT, the change I made, are still in progress. So, there is some limitation. I will start with the first one, performances. Yeah, actually, performances might be variable because some protocols are only sending one RPC at a time. So, if we have bad latency, we will have bad performances. So, for example, if we are using the GPIO protocol to blink a LED, if we have very bad latency, the LED will blink very slowly. So, for some protocol, we made it because we had hardware limitation for platform. We had not enough memory. For some other protocol, we don't have the choice. I mean, if for a GPIO, we are sending two RPC at the same time, one to switch on and one to switch off, it won't make sense because we can't control the time between the switcher and the switchoff. So, for some protocol, maybe for some usage, because of that, it won't be adapted. But for some usage, if we have boost or things with low latency or if we don't care about performances, Grebus may be perfect. Another thing is power management. We were working on it when a project stopped, when Google made the hierarchy. So, there's still a lot of work to do in power management. For me, for IoT, I think the most important missing thing is the remote wake-up. Currently, if we want to suspend the module, we will have to wake up it regularly just to know if there is something to do, if there is something that changes. There is no way, actually, currently to restart the connection when the module is suspended to notify the host that we have something to do. So, that's something we need to complete to make. Another important limitation, and I heard it a lot in other speech, is security. Currently, Grebus doesn't define any security things. I mean, there is no encryption, nothing like that, and that's very bad. If we are using Bluetooth, it's not really important because Bluetooth has encryption, it's doing peer-to-peer, so it's protected. But, if we are using TCPIP, there is no protection. We can sniff what is happening on TCPIP. We can inject Grebus operation. So, for some usage, Grebus actually is not safe. So, we need to add some security to Grebus. Another thing is Grebus actually currently is a module. So, we need to load the module to use it. So, we can't use Grebus as is on your smartphone for the moment. So, if we want to connect IoT device to your smartphone, we have to use the smartphone as a gateway to Grebus host. So, nothing blocking, but something that will increase latency, so we have to take it in account. And my current implementation only work on local network. So, for TCPIP, I'm using Havai to discover a new module and to detect when the module is removed. So, obviously, it's a new work on local network. But again, it's just software, so we can add a new protocol to discover module. It's not something blocking. Still, even if I'm not able to make a great demo like the one we saw during the keynote. Yeah, I wanted to have something great demo, but I didn't have enough time to do it. But I still have something working. When we were working on Project ARRA, we were using GBCM, it's a Grebus device simulator. So, kernel team, we are using it to continue to develop Grebus. We put to have for firmware team to implement the new features and things like that. So, right now, we can test and play with Grebus for IoT by using GBCM on big open black. It should work also on Raspberry Pi. So, if you want to try, there is a sorties available. I still have a lot of work to do, but I've tacked the... If you use the branch ELCE, you should be able to reproduce the setup and start to play with Grebus. So, now, what I want to do later is to upgrade all my software, because right now, the software I'm providing on my GitHub is not compatible with the last version of Grebus. When I started to this work, we were still working on ARRA. It was not stopped. And so, I used the sources, the public sources. I was not used the internal sources. So, the whole software is a little outdated and I need to update it to support the new features. And so, the one thing I really would like to have a platform, a good platform for firmware. I really would like to have an OS such as Defear that will support Grebus completely. And then we will have nothing to do. If Grebus is working on an OS, all the platforms supported by the OS will be supported by Grebus. And so, we would just have to do everything on this OS and we work. So, now, if you are interested, you can contribute. This project has been started and financed by Google, but now Google doesn't care anymore. So, we can do what we want with this project with Grebus. So, now it's all and we just have to make it have some. So, if you want to contribute, you can help. Do you have any question? Yes? Sorry? Oh, I hear the word to your session. I was not able to attend. It's sort of the same thing. Yes, yes. Yeah, I think the main interest of Grebus is already present in kernel. Even if it's staging state, and there is a lot of work to complete it, we already have something working. Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Effectively, the part to bind the driver is not the best solution. And I know there is some thing we have with Difference Tree could be best. But for the part itself also protocol, Grebus is already there. So, maybe we... Yeah, I'm still working on Zephyr to have the Grebus stack. But actually, you don't have to have the whole Grebus stack. I mean, you can at build select if you want to have GPIO, if you want to have SPI, things like that. So, except Grebus Core to send and receive packets, you don't have to have the whole stack. Yes? Yes. Yeah, actually, yeah, we don't... Yeah, yes. Yes, yeah. Yeah, it's going to be Zephyr. Yeah. Yeah, actually, Grebus is in the... It's both, yeah, both BFD and GPL. So, you can write an implementation of Grebus in BFD, or Apache or whatever you want. You can tell it's GPL, yeah. No, no. Currently, what I'm doing is just... I'm simulating some other things. A lot of Unipro... We have a lot of Unipro operations, and so, when the application receives it, it just tries to fake everything. So, right now, it's just underlined by the user specification, but the best thing to do is definitely to remove... to abstract Unipro things. So, there is a chance to make a kernel for that. Yes? Oh, yes. Yeah, I don't know if for kernel we have a mailing list. Okay, yeah. Good point, yeah. Okay, any other questions? Yes? Yeah, for Bluetooth, I'm using the inquiry. So, continuously scan Bluetooth to see if there is a new device, a new Bluetooth device. Same for BLE. And for TCP-IP, I'm using AVI. So, I'm using AVI. Yes, yes. Not yet. Yeah. That's really a big mess. We need security. Okay, any other questions? Okay, thank you. Thank you.


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