Hello. Welcome to the Fandals Sunday Recap. Hello everybody. We are here talking about everything that happened in the one o'clock and four o'clock games today, this Sunday. And we'll be talking about a lot of things in a fantasy perspective. My name is Josh. You can find me on Twitter at FYF. Josh joined by my great, great friends, Jay and John Luca Raffalo. Guys, how are you doing today? Jay, how was your Sunday so far? Sunday was pretty good. The Giants blew it like usual, so I'm used to that. Mixed results from my fantasy teams, but overall doing well. You know, here hanging with you guys, so I couldn't ask for much more. I just got inside after just running around for like four hours after that Justin Tucker kick. Just running around shirtless all over Baltimore. Screaming at the top of my lungs. Something else. My goodness. What is that? What is football? Football's back. One of the craziest ends to a game so far this season. Justin Tucker hit the longest field goal ever. In case you didn't realize, guys, I'm a Ravens fan. I'm a Ravens fan and that was awesome. Yeah. It was so good. It was so good. But like I said, guys, we are here recapping the games. And before we get into the recaps of everything, we want to talk about the, we want to talk about the game that's happening tonight, the Green Bay Packers. They are playing against the San Francisco 49ers tonight, Sunday night. And I expect a real close one here, guys. Right now the over under it said at the Packers are three point underdogs. The San Francisco 49ers are home. So how do you, how does that make you guys feel? Do you, do you think the Packers are underdogs in this game? I think that's a safe, that's a safe assumption, right? With like how we only know like last week, yes, the Packers played well. They came back, but it was against the line. So like, how good, I'm sure some people still have trust issues and 49ers have been pretty good. So I could understand why they're underdogs and they're not that much of an underdog. Three points is fine. I think it should be a good game. I hope so. I'm afraid it's going to turn into just a defensive game. Well, it really depends on what defense shows up for the 49ers too. Is it going to be the one that shut down Jalen Hertz last week? Or is it going to be the one that gave up over 300 yards to Jared Goff?  So it, same thing with that's going to decide how, how well Aaron Rodgers does tonight. Is it going to be the one from last week or going to be the one from two weeks ago that pulled before the end of the game? I think it's the former. I think, I think we'll get, I think we'll get a good Aaron Rodgers. I'm not too worried. I'm confident in a good Aaron Rodgers coming back. Maybe not quite as good as last week, but I guess we got to mention the 49ers, you know, they're 2-0. So they're undefeated so far, but they have played the Lions in a close one where the Lions came back, right? You just mentioned that, right, Jay? But also last week, the 49ers, they also had a pretty easy game as well. Trying to see the Eagles. I'm not going to say an easy game. The Eagles have looked pretty good so far, but you know, they won that game 17-11. So both games have been pretty close. The Packers, you know, they've been up on the Lions last week as well, but you know, it's 35-17. So I think it's going to be a really close game. If I'm betting on this game, I'm probably taking the Packers with points personally. I think I would go the other side. I think I'm going to go with the 49ers. But anyway, right in the middle, they're going to die. He's not touching this one. He's not touching this one. But Jay, it's good for the push. From a fantasy perspective, guys, on the Packers side of the ball, I think it's a little bit more straightforward. You got Aaron Rodgers. You got Aaron Jones. You got Devonte Adams. They're really well-listed here. You're starting them. You're starting all them all studs. You got it. You got it. One thing I do want to ask about it on the Packers side of the ball is their tight end situation. Do you think you can rely on Robert Tunyon for the rest of the season? He just had a big week. Not such a big week one, but the Packers as a whole didn't really do much week one, right? Yeah. Yeah, no one got points. No one did anything in week one. I think you can. I mean, Aaron Rodgers is pretty reliably targeted Tunyon. So I would be fine rolling with him. It really just depends if this game ends up actually being offensive. I could see Tunyon just not having a good week, but that's like every tight end. Personally, if I have him, he's my best tight end. I'm going to roll him out. At this point, now that most of the games are over too, unless you have a tight end in tomorrow's game, you're probably going to have to. Yeah. Jail, you hit the nail on the head. Unless you've got one of those top tier guys, like the Wallers, the Kelsies. If you have Tunyon, he's likely your best option.  I'm right there with you guys. And on the other side of the ball, we have the San Francisco 49ers that are a little bit more scattered, we'll say from a fan's perspective. There's not three studs that we're starting, but they do have some studs in my opinion. And Devo Samuel, George Kittle, Trey Sermon, I know a lot of people are starting them starting him this week, especially with Elijah Mitchell out. There's a ton of running back injuries with the San Francisco 49ers right now. Are you guys putting Trey Sermons in your starting fantasy lineup right now? Nope. Too scary. Too scary. No, thank you. I, if, if I don't have it, well, obviously if I don't have a better option, I would be more comfortable with him as a flex, but I'm all in on Sermon. What have you seen that has given you that confidence, sir?  So they spent high, they traded up to get Trey Sermon. I know people were out on him after, you know, he had one carry and he got a concussion and that one carry. But I want any piece of this running back, backfield and they want them. They want to use them. So I, I'm not comfortable, but I'm okay with it. Let me put it that way. I'm not forcing him into my lineup, but there you could be much worse off. I'm going to say this guy's like the big factor for me on this one is that Trey Sermon was announced as the starter coming into it. He's going to get carried earlier in the game. And, you know, if he can get double digit carries, I think that can lead to fantasy success, success, but let's see. I mean, like he only had one carry last week and he got a concussion. I know that's not his fault, but it was in the third quarter when he forgot his first carry. Let's see what he can do with some carries. I don't feel confident in it, but I am willing to throw him out there, you know, if I have to. How about this real fast guys? Brandon Ayuk, do you think he, Jay, let me ask you, do you think Brandon Ayuk can finally have his comeback game this week? Or you just, you just waiting and seeing. So for Ayuk, for me, he's at this point in the season, you've got to really treat him as a wide receiver three and just hope he gets things going. Honestly, I'm not in on Ayuk this week. I think it's going to be a big George Kittle week. The Packers have struggled against the tight end position so far.  So I think this is the week that Kittle gets right. Yes, I really hope so. Although I thought this was the week Pitts was going to get right. Yeah, let's not talk about that. Didn't fan out that way. Not great, Bob. Not great with you guys on Kittle and his breakout week. I'm betting on that. Let's go Kittle. Put Kittle in your lineups because he is going to have a good week this week against the Packers. Is there anything else in this game that you guys kind of think we should mention or go over before we get into recapping the one o'clock games? No, good. All right, perfect, guys. It's pretty straightforward for me. Well, let's get into this Texans Carolina Panthers game. All right. All right. Yeah, it was a pretty good one Thursday. Just kidding. Oh, wait, we don't want to go back that far, do we? Probably not. We start with today's games. If anyone in the audience has questions too, feel free to throw them in here. We'll try and get to them. Well, we do have actually one question. I know we're going to cover Nick. I'm sure we're going to get into this a little bit when we get to the Browns game, but Chong coming in here saying what happened to Nick Chubb today? Of course, in my Keeper League, I have Chubb and Hunt and didn't start Hunt. I'm about to start Chubb and Hunt over Chubb and JT. Should Sean consider starting Kareem Hunt over Jonathan Taylor going forward? Jail. You're down there making some noise. Listen, listen, listen. You know what? I'll give my opinion first then. It sounds like you want to second process, process this. I'm putting JT out there, guys. The JT, Naim Hine's situation is kind of similar to Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt's situation. JT is a better runner. He's a better running back. He's closer to Nick Chubb. He's going to get his. I'm still playing JT. I'm making sure he's in my starting lineup. I would not be that worried. Kareem's the Naim Hines. So I'm still starting Chubb and JT in this situation. Even though I do want to find ways to get Hunt to my lineup. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I agree with you, Josh. And maybe I'll save most of my analysis here on the Chubb-Hunt situation for our recap, but I agree with you. I would roll with my best players here. And it's going to be Chubb and JT. You guys said it all. I completely agree. Kevin here. Bird up. Bird up, Kev. And Parker. Let's get it going. I like your energy, Parker. Yes. Yes. Fandal with the Fandals. Yeah. Fandal with the sunglasses. That's fantastic. That's so meta, bro. Sean in here. What's up, dudes? FyF fan. What's up, Sean? Sean, how you feeling? He is. Dudes and Maria. Yes. Be polite, Sean. Well, yeah. Obviously. Obviously. Kev saying it. Sean loved Fandal. Love it. I don't know why I read that like Ron Burgundy was like sub Fandal. I am Ron Burgundy. All right. Well, guys, getting into this first matchup from the one o'clock games, we had the Washington football team play the Buffalo Bills in what was kind of a blowout, the spread going into this game. The Bills were favored by seven points. All right. And they covered the spread and then some, right? Oh, yeah. Let's just let's just look at the win percentages right here that this shows me the Washington football team never stood a chance. According to my expert, my expert genius here. I conclude the Washington football team never stood a chance. No. The Washington football team did not come to play, but they did have some fantasy producers. And let's just get into the football team here real fast. Taylor Heineke had a good game from a fan's perspective. Right, guys? Great game. McLauren, not such a good game, but Logan Thomas, great game. Is there anything that stands out to you the most? Jay, what do you think here? I think people who were worried about Antonio Gibson after last week, they should calm things down a little bit. He only had 12 carries, but he still got close to 20 points. 73 reception yards on that one play. That was absolutely beautiful. Oh, that play was amazing. That touchdown catch, my goodness. It just shows his explosiveness. And Taylor Heineke, I think you got to be comfortable with him as a low-end QB2, not necessarily somebody you're forcing into your lineup. But before long, we're going to get into bi-weeks, and you're going to need some, especially in super flex leagues, you're going to need some starters. So Heineke, I think you can do much worse than putting Heineke as your QB2. I'm with you. And I'm just seeing in the chat here, Sean coming in and saying, wow, Fuller touchdown with two seconds left. Wow. So this Miami, Las Vegas game looks to be tied up right now. Going, it looks like they're going into overtime, guys. So keep an eye on that and see how that plays out, man. That should be exciting. I don't know how Miami's in that game, by the way, but we'll get to that. We'll get to that. I'm right there with you, Jay. I think Antonio Gibson, I'm not going to call him a must start because there are other running backs out there. You can throw in your lineup above him, but he is as close as a must start. You can get without saying he is one because I mean 13 touches, but he's so explosive. He's so good. And when the game script is better, which I intend it's going to be going forward, I think Antonio Gibson is just going to continue to eat. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's Antonio Gibson.  He's going to be good. Just checking over on this Miami, the biggest game over here. Yeah. We're getting lots of wow. Yeah. It must have been version. It was two point conversion to tie the game. Oh, that's awesome. That's awesome. That's awesome. All right. Well, otherwise on this Washington Buffalo, in this Washington Buffalo game, is there anything else that stands out on the Washington side of the ball? See you guys. Do you think? I don't even kiss it is going to be that guy.  So I think he's, you know, there was some people that saying he's an automatic RB two every week. I think he's a perfectly fine flex play and a bi week fill in, but after one like this all year with him. After one game, after one game, they're like automatic RB two. Yeah. Oh yeah. The over reactions are real. Exactly. So I think he's more of a flex play and a bi week fill in versus that RB two status that everybody was looking at after last week. Yeah. Absolutely. I agree with that. If you're looking for a game script for JD McKessick, you're going to be like, oh, they're going to be behind and they're going to give them a lot of dump off passes. Well, they were behind and he didn't really produce, right? You got to be careful playing the narratives. Yeah. Hey, Logan Thomas looked good. That's the last thing I'll say on this Washington team. It's three weeks of consistent output. He's the tight end seven on the season so far. So. Yeah. Like Logan Thomas is good tight end option. Yeah. No, no, no. I like Logan Thomas. He's going to be a tight end one in my opinion. The tight end one. The dynasty tight end one. No. What? Don't, don't hurt me in that. Don't hurt me in that. Josh said dynasty tight end one. Logan Thomas. Yeah. Clip it. Fandall posted. No. Logan Thomas will be a top toe of tight end at the end of the season. I'm pretty confident about that. Pretty confident about that. Yeah. That's not saying much though. Do you think he can get into the top five possibly? Yes or no? Maybe. I don't think so. I don't think it's likely. He had the perfect like if, like I was talking about, if you don't have one of those top guys, this is the line that you're looking at for tight ends. Three or four catches, 50 ish yards. If you have a touchdown, it's a good week. Like that, that's basically unless you've got the Kelsey's, the Waller's, the Hawkinson's. That's what, that's what you're going to expect. Absolutely. Absolutely.  Josh Allen, good. Josh Allen, very good. Stefan Diggs, a little disappointing considering how well Josh Allen did. I mean, Emmanuel Sanders and Cole Beasley were each top 10 fantasy producers, I think on the weekend of PPR League so far. So are you guys concerned about Stefan Diggs at all? Jail? Are you? No, not at all. Not at all. He's the talent, most talented wide receiver on this team. And you know, we know that, that Josh Allen likes to spread the ball around, but Stefan Diggs is most likely going to be his favorite target. He's the type of player. So I'm, I'm rolling with him every week. This is, this is the type of player is you're not, you don't want to miss those games where he's going to blow up and get those, you know, 30, 40 point games.  Yeah, it's nothing to write home about, but it's also not three. Yeah. So I think, go ahead, Josh. No, no, no, no. I completely agree. I completely agree. Stefan Diggs is in your lineup. Yeah. And the thing is, the thing is, like you said, JL, you know, nine point two fan, fan dual points in a PPR league. He got over double digits in what is a down game.  I mean, how many games is Emmanuel Sanders going to get two touchdowns, Zach Moss going to catch a touchdown and one not go digs way. So I think it's just, you know, it's nothing to be concerned about whatsoever. Yes, absolutely. And what do you guys think it's going to be just a split of Zach Moss and Devin Singletary going forward? Do you think Zach Moss ran away with the job jet by any chance? No, I think it's going to be like this all season. Singletary is looking pretty good this year, honestly. And this is the best Zach Moss has looked all year. So I think it's just going to be one of those, whoever's got the hot hand is, you know, it's going to be ugly. I think they're flex plays, you know, you might have to use them in buys and stuff like that, but it's going to go back and forth all season, in my opinion. I agree there. And if you look at their stat line, it's, it's not like Zach Moss got all the work or all the opportunities. It was pretty fairly split. It's just Zach Moss did more with it this game. So I could see that switching next week. I agree. I think it's going to be a roulette with both these guys all year. If they're both healthy, you're never going to know which one to start and you're never going to feel confident putting either one of them in your lineups, but you're probably going to have to start one of them one way or the other throughout the season. Oh, fancy for boys. No. Oh, you missed our freak out in the beginning. It was the first thing we said. We actually took off all our shirts when we were talking. Yeah. We just put our back on. Yeah. There's a whole synchronized choreography is great. We had a routine set. It was beautiful. So guys. The next game I want to get into here is the Chicago Bears at the Cleveland Browns. The Cleveland Browns were seven and a half point favorites and they covered. They covered very well again. They covered so good. They covered this spread at home. If we look at the win percentages throughout the game, it looks like Cleveland handily won this game. Doesn't it guys? Doesn't it? Oh yeah. My expert opinion tells me that. Wait, look at the graph. We don't know until we look at the graph. The graph tells all I want to start with the Chicago side of the ball here because it was very disappointing. Justin Fields. He was the quarterback. This was his first start. A lot of people were excited for it, but he had 20 pass attempts, six completions for 68 yards and 12 rushing yards. JL, what happened to Justin Fields here? I don't know. Good Cleveland Browns defense. Good Cleveland Browns defense. First start of the year, but this is disappointing to see. This is a super disappointing start. I don't know what Matt Nagy is doing. The offensive line could not keep the defense off. And given, you know, we got to give some respect to Cleveland, right? Cleveland's defense is good. So it's not like they were going up against some podium defense and, you know, they got destroyed. Like it was a hard matchup, but at the same time, Chicago, come on, 44 passing yards for the whole offense, 44 passing yards, 42 rushing yards, 12 first downs, 45 total plays.  Their entire time of possession was 19 minutes compared to Cleveland's 40 minutes. 38 minutes and 50 seconds. That's absurd. Cleveland just absolutely demolished Chicago. Chicago could not get the ball moving. And Justin Fields couldn't do anything. So, you know, I don't, I don't know if Justin Fields is going to get better in the next week or two.  I expect that they'll write the ship, but I don't, I don't know if I trust Matt Nagy here. Yeah. Yeah. Jay did Andy Dalton get his job back? Sean just came to the comments saying, yeah, Justin Fields got hit so many times. Andy Dalton getting that job. He did it for Andy. He's just a nice guy. He said that Andy Dalton was their starter when healthy. Does it look like that now? I think Justin Fields would have had to come in here and play like we expected. I would not be surprised to see them go back to Dalton. I don't think it's the right call. But again, it's Matt Nagy that we're talking about. So, and with Fields, you know, the expectation was he was going to struggle passing and that he would be like all these other Konami Code quarterbacks that they're rushing would raise their floor. It wouldn't be that big of a deal. 12 rushing yards is not what you would expect out of Justin Fields. And Justin Tucker had two less yards with that one field goal than Justin Fields had passing this entire game. So that tells you everything you need to know about Fields this week. That is nuts. That is nuts. And he didn't have a great rushing game last week either. He had like 10 rushes for like 31 yards. So that is really disappointing to see from a player you expect to give you rushing value weekend and week out. I mean, this is affecting all the receiving options for the Bears as well. I mean, if the quarterback can't throw, then what are the receivers supposed to do? Yeah, the offense doesn't have the ball, right? The offense doesn't have the ball. They're not running many plays and there's just less opportunities to make plays happening at fantasy points. Yeah. Until further notice, I'm starting David Montgomery, but I'm nervous about Alan Robinson. I'm nervous about the whole Chicago Bears offense. I'm still starting Robinson. Oh, I'm starting him too. Right. But yeah, to say you're, yeah, I'm definitely nervous 100%. Let's move on to the Cleveland side of the ball here. This was a little bit more productive, let's say, a little bit more optimistic. The one thing that stood out to me the most about this game is that Cream Hunt, he went off. Nick Chubb had a ton or 22 carries, 84 yards to Cream Hunt's 10 carries, but Cream Hunt had six catches and had the rushing touchdown. Is this a trend, JL? Is this a trend? I don't think so. I mean, we saw this type of split last season. I think it's just the type of game, you know? Honestly, they were doing such a good job of just containing Chicago's offense. I could see them just like, all right, let's just give Cream Hunt a bunch of opportunities. I mean, he really just, he made his, I was going to say a saying, I knew I was going to butcher it and Maria was going to come right into the comments to make fun of me, so I'm not going to say it. But he got most of his points, he got most of his options in the receiving game, so that's Cream Hunt's specialty. Nick Chubb will be fine. Cream Hunt's special, that's what we call that, right, Jack? Exactly, the Cream Hunt special. Absolutely. I agree with you. You're starting Chubb over Hunt still. Chubb is still the more valuable vanist man. 22 carries, what more could you ask for? He just didn't get a touchdown. More receptions and more fantasy points, Jack. What do you mean? What are you talking about? I could ask for a lot. True. But out of your running back, you want the touches. He's got the volume. He's going to get those touchdowns. He's still got 84 yards on the ground. Baker, you know, Baker rushed one in, Cream Hunt rushed one in. If he gets one of those, nobody's batting an eye at Nick Chubb this week, so. You're absolutely right. Yeah, don't worry about Nick Chubb at all. If anybody's panicked on Nick Chubb, go jump on that real quick. And like you said, JL, that they really didn't have to do much. And especially with the extra game this year, I wouldn't be surprised to see more when teams are up that they don't use their stud running back, you know, quite as heavily as they normally would. So they think it's got that extra game. There's definitely going to be some little bit of game theory when there's blowouts. A little bit of spiciness. Annie, and here's a shout out to Maria. Shout out to you, Annie. Shout out to you. Maria said dirt up, Kev. I will say that it's encouraging to see Odell Beckham stat line. Five receptions for 77 yards and one carry. I mean, there's the fact that they're willing to give them a carry. I think it's encouraging for 10 yards. Just the fact that he's involved in the offense going forward. This gives me a lot more confidence starting it. Do you guys agree? Yeah, I was nervous. I was probably the most skeptical out of out of the group of us going into this weekend, but he looks good. He made some really good catches. Wasn't anything crazy, but I think they really needed to go crazy. And Odell Beckham's Odell Beckham. Yeah, he looked explosive. He looked like his self. I think as the season goes on, especially once they get Jarvis Landry back on, there's the defense could pay less attention to Beckham. I think he's, you know, he's got some, some upside and he should have a pretty safe floor as well. Oh, that's a sweet graph. What does the graph tell you? So we are moving on to our Baltimore Ravens Detroit Lions game. And this one was exciting guys. The last second with the Justin Tucker, 66 yard, I'll just sit back. I won't even talk. This is, I'll let you two Ravens fans just discuss this one. We'll be here the whole rest of the time. So the negative real fast is not the negative. The Ravens were seven and a half point favorites in this game. And they did not cover. They did not cover. They were not close to covering. It was actually closer to the Lions winning this game. Well, when we look at the win probability, the Ravens had the game for most of it, but it wasn't. It was a fun game guys. This was a very fun game. And this is just becoming a theme for the Ravens lately. They're just have these endings of the games that are just so electric and so much fun. But let's start with the Raven side of the jail. You have something to say down there? No, I was just going to say, you say electric and fun. I say increases my blood pressure. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that what you're saying? Yeah. Electricity increases blood pressure. Exactly. Exactly. Looking at this Raven side of the ball. Look, Lamar Jackson, he had a pretty solid game. 287 passing yards. That's encouraging. He got one passing touchdown. 58 rushing yards. This is what Lamar Jackson does. Mark Andrews. It's nice getting over a hundred yards. In terms of this receiving game, is there anything else that stood out to you? Yeah. Mark, he's Brown. He dropped a couple passes. How do you how do you feel about Mark? He's Brown going forward. Jack. I would have felt a lot better if he would have made one of those long catches. And like we talked about. Earlier when we were watching the games. He seemed to, it seemed to get in his head after that first one that he dropped because they were two of them were sure. Six points. Easy. I still like them long term. I think he's going to stay a bit longer.  We got to see Mark Andrews more involved this week. So. Devin DuVernay got a touchdown. Yeah. Devin DuVernay got a touchdown. I was really, you know, Jackson got 287 passing yards, but you know, we were expecting to see him go off against this line, Steve Fent. So he had an okay game, but honestly from a fantasy perspective, he was disappointed. He was disappointed. He was disappointed. He was disappointed. He was disappointed. He was disappointed, in my opinion. He was a little bit disappointed from a fantasy perspective. But if I had to, I mean, again, we just mentioned Marquis Brown dropped. What should have been, I believe a touchdown or at least close to a touchdown in another like 40, 50 long yard game, which would have made both their days look a lot better, which in my mind tells me go buy Marquis Brown if people are concerned because after watching this game, I'm still confident in his ability to produce with the Ravens offense more than anyone else. If people are low, I'm not saying overpaid for him. Do you agree, JL? I heard you say yes. I 100% agree. What while everyone's focusing on these drops, what I saw was he was getting so many high quality targets. He was being targeted so much, which is just opportunity. He's going to get, he's going to fix whatever this drop issue is. I see that as like more of a single game type of thing. He got into his own head. You could tell, but he'll be fine. He's very talented. He'll be totally fine going forward. And if this is your opportunity to buy on the dip for, for Hollywood Brown, I would do it because he's going to be good the rest of the season, in my opinion. I'll say the most concerning thing I would say for this Ravens team is their running game. Latavius Murray seven rushing attempts for 28 yards, Tyson Williams only gave him five attempts for 22 yards. He did get two targets, but I feel like we expect more out of this Ravens rushing attack. Don't you guys agree? Yeah. I honestly, I think that the offense just wasn't moving quite how we expected. I wouldn't, none of the running backs really got work. And so that just tells me that how the game was going led the coaches not to utilize the running backs, which is just, it's not going to continue. Right. Each game is going to be different. I expect them to get the running backs more involved like they have. Yeah. And if Tyson Williams doesn't play better, I do think this offense is going to be a little bit of trouble. Latavius Murray and Devonta Freeman both don't look like they've got anything left in those legs. So Williams is pretty much it other than Lamar Jackson. So I'll be honest with you. I wouldn't be surprised if they work out of running back this week because it did not look pretty from running. They just, they couldn't get it started. Lamar Jackson was the only guy that got anything done on the ground. Listen, the Browns and the Ravens are in the same division. They're never going to make this trade happen. But how cool would it be? Ravens get cream hunt, you know, or something. Oh, that could be awesome. They would have to give up too much and they would never make that introduction. No, they never do it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I love, I love just thinking of what could be. Now on the Detroit Lions side of the ball, Deandre Swift, he was one of the top running backs on the week in a PPR league. He was actually current. He's currently the fourth highest scoring running back in a PPR league. Guys, both these running backs were usable. Are we going to see more or less of this throughout the season? JL, let me come to you on this one. Are you throwing Deandre Swift in all your lineups? Oh, absolutely. I'm throwing both Deandre Swift and Jamal Williams in all my lineups. I tweeted out earlier today, but I honestly think Jamal Williams might be one of the best values at running back that we see this season. They're using, he's not the backup. He's really not. They're using him in a similar type of role as Karim Hunt. So I think that where you ended up getting Jamal Williams is going to be a value by the end of the year. He's already had, he's already returned value for you for the first three weeks. Hopefully he helped you win some games if you do have them on your roster. How about you, Jay? What do you think about that? Yeah. I think JL said it perfect. Jamal Williams was practically free in a lot of places and he's going to be used. They showed they want to use them. Deandre Swift, a lot of people were talking down on him, you know, he right after the season everybody was really high. And then once they hired Dan Campbell and made that trade to get rid of Matthew Stafford, everybody was like, Oh, you know, Deandre Swift isn't going to get anything done this season, but I'm perfectly fine with him as a, as a back in running back one for the season. He's going to be involved seven receptions on top of, you know, 14 carries. He's going to be involved all year long. This defense is not that good. Even though they were able to shut down Baltimore, I think that was more about Baltimore, not playing efficiently versus this defense playing well. So I expect there to be a lot of shootouts in this team's future. And I think both of these guys are going to be involved. Yeah. In terms of the receiving game, it's more or less what we, I'm not going to say expected because TJ Hawkinson had a bad game, but the receipt, the wide receiving core is bad. And it's not going to be something we can rely on from a fantasy perspective, but TJ Hawkinson, you guys are still, I mean, like I know we had a bad week, two receptions for 10 yards, but this doesn't bother me too much against a good defense. You knew what they were going to try to do to try to spread the ball deep. TJ Hawkinson is going to have better weeks to come. Right. Yeah. 100%. 100%. I like it guys. All right. We are moving on to our next game. And we have the Tennessee Titans and the Indianapolis Colts. Oh, wait. This was actually a kind of a close one. The Tennessee Titans were favored by four and a half points coming into this game. I know Jail and I were talking beforehand and we're saying the Titans seem like the right bet, right? Jail. Yeah. Oh yeah. I think that was going to be a, not as close of a game as it was. Yeah. I mean, with Carson Wentons, two sprained ankles, like how could, I was surprised that he was even playing. But I guess the backup option was even worse, right? When looking at the win probabilities, the Titans had this one in hand, pretty much the entire game, but going in, starting with the Titans, I mean, the Colts here, Naim Hines had a heck of a game. He had a great game in week one as well. And Jonathan Taylor didn't have quite as good of a game. Going forward, is this more or less what we should expect? Jay, I want to come to you on this one. Are we going to be able to rely on both these guys going forward? Is Jonathan Taylor even reliable? I'm still perfectly fine with Jonathan Taylor. I think it was just a weird game. I think Naim Hines is going to be frustrating because he had a good week one. He had a great week this week and he had two touches last week. So you're not going to be able to rely on him on a week-to-week basis. And also, I think a lot of it had to do with Carson Wentz playing with two spraying ankles. However, Carson Wentz managed that. They were having to dump the ball off a lot, trying to make sure that Carson Wentz didn't get hit. I'm perfect. If anybody's panicking about Jonathan Taylor, I think it's a perfect opportunity to buy low. Hines, I think, is a flex play that's going to be pretty boom robust. Yeah, I think the only difference here was the rushing touchdown. Hines got the touchdown. Jonathan Taylor didn't. And Hines got a little bit more receiving work, but Jonathan Taylor got 10 carries to Naim Hines, six carries. He didn't get the touchdowns this week. He still had a fine fancy game, 7.7 points. It's fine. I agree. I wouldn't worry at all. Yeah, Naim with you guys.  Naim Hines, you can put him in your line-ups. He's a solid flex play. Now, Michael Pittman, on the other hand, I was worried about him because I didn't know Carson Wentz status. I was really encouraged after seeing what he did last week. Six receptions for 68 yards, one carry for five yards. This, again, is encouraging for me, knowing about Wentz's injuries, playing against a decent defense. I like Michael Pittman. Make sure you go get him if you can in dynasty leagues, especially. I don't know if you can rely on him, putting him in your wide receiver slot every week, but I'm encouraged by this. Yeah, I think as long as Carson Wentz is starting just tying that into the last point, which was that the Colts, you know, 70% of their plays were passing plays. So that should tell you something, right? It might explain the Hines thing. And Pittman, right? And Pittman is clearly the receiving leader here. Yeah, I'll be honest with you. I'm comfortable starting as a wide receiver of three. I'm perfectly fine starting Michael Pittman every week. I think if he was going to have a down game, this would be the scenario. And he still pulled out double-digit points. So I love Michael Pittman this year. Read draft dynasty. He's emerged as the top option in the passing game for the Colts. Give me Michael Pittman all day. I'm with you. I'm with you. The internet said Jamar Chase would be the young AFC North receiver that was going to drop all the passes. Boy, were they wrong. Classic internet. He is so much fun guys. Jamar Chase, he's so electric. I said this to Jay Ella. He's just so electric. He's not getting a ton of targets or anything, but he doesn't need them. He just makes big plays happen.  You can see that chemistry is still there between the two. Yeah. Completely agree. And I think his role, he'll get more targets. He'll get more opportunities here. Now guys, on the Titan side of the ball in this matchup against the Colts, we had Ryan Tannehill who finally put together a pretty good fantasy game. I think this is encouraging. But I think this is also what we expected. I remember just having conversations about Ryan Tannehill and I think we expected more from him. Derek Henry did more or less what you expected, got a lot of work, no touchdowns. Man, if he puts one or two touchdowns on the board, which he's more than capable of doing, he has one of those explosive games again. But if he keeps getting work like this, I mean, he's locked in as a top five right now. We should have all seen the Chester Rogers revenge game coming, by the way. One catch for six yards and one touchdown. No, Chester Rogers. But I mean, I do want to mention, like, can we, I mean, AJ Brown, he did get knocked out of this game. We don't know the extent of the injury yet. But, well, Leo Jones, you would have expected to have a fantastic game if AJ Brown couldn't finish. But this turned into more of a Derek Henry game script, I think, right guys? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and, you know, I think, again, Julio Jones classic, the classic issue with Julio Jones just didn't get the touchdown today. It is what it is. I don't think this is similar to the, on the other side of the ball with the Colts, where we saw like Zach Pascal get those touchdowns and it was like crazy. And then you look at this week, it's not, not much. So touchdowns aren't as sticky. Tan Hill only had 27 attempts on the first two games. Julio Jones was averaging seven targets a game. He had over 100 yards last week. He should have had a touchdown. I know Josh, you and I disagree. I think he was in last week. You disagreed. Oh, he was in. It was, it was, it was touching it. It, there was no touching it. Yeah. Well, Josh, you're wrong. But that's besides the point. Julio Jones is going to be just fine. Absolutely. And guys, let me take a second just to say, we appreciate you, everyone watching. Fandall appreciates you and they would love you to hit that subscribe button on YouTube. Hit that follow button on Twitch. Hit that like button on this video. Like Ben, mommy $50. They would love you. $50. If you want, you don't have to do that. No, you have to. It is a little needy. He's a little needy sometimes. But I think that's a great transition into our next matchup here. We have the Kansas City Chiefs losing to the Los Angeles Chargers. Like everyone predicted. Am I right guys? Am I right? I think I think Kansas City Chiefs going to have the first draft pick overall. So that's reserved for the Giants. One and two. There were one on two in the season. Had a losing record yet. But anyway, the Kansas City Chiefs were seven points favorites coming into this game. So even the sports books believe that Kansas City would dominate this game. Yeah, whoever set that line, man. I was on the Fandall betting Q&A earlier today and I was like, oh, I would take the over on this game. And I think the total was 54 and a half. That's what happened. Son of a gun. Vegas for a reason. Vegas is Vegas for a reason. They always know how to set these lines well. That book always gets you.  Win percent. It went back and forth, you know, like Kansas City looked good at first and the Chargers and then Kansas City and then the Chargers and then the Chargers took the game at the end. So it was a back and forth game, a fun game, right guys? Yeah, no, it really was. And man, I would like to open up the floor for J.L. to talk about. I almost, I almost prematurely. I see Michael. Hey, this is a family show, J.L. Be careful what you're saying. Mike Williams, seven catches, one hundred and twenty-two receiving. Yeah. I think that's what you're alluding to, J. Let's open up the floor. How good do you feel right now, J.L.? Oh, I feel fantastic. Michael, I feel vindicated. It's like my early victory lap here. No, but I mean, we've been saying it for the last two recaps, right? Mike Williams is looking good. He's getting targeted way more than he has in the past and he's talented. So hopefully you all listen to us and went and, you know, traded for Mike Williams or picked him up if he was on your waiver wire. And I hope he continues to be used this way because he's electric right now. He looks so good in this game. He was making great passes, great catches, making great passes. Making great passes. He's just throwing it to himself. Might as well. That's how good he is. Exactly. I'm so excited for Mike Williams. I think we will be drafting him as at least a wide receiver two next year, possibly a wide receiver one. Ooh, wee, hold on. Time out. Hot take. That is a hot take, J.L. Week three. That is a hot take. Listen, I've been waiting so long. How many years have I waited? Surprised you're not wearing your Michael Williams jersey after today. I wore it on Friday. I thought someone would make fun of me. I would have so. Well, Mike Williams, through the first three games of the season, is the top scoring fantasy wide receiver? I thought I might let you guys know that. He was the number one scoring fantasy receiver so far this week. I wonder, where's he on the season now? Well, I guess we won't know until... I said number one. He literally just said that. No, I don't know. I was not listening. I was not listening at all. He's the number one so far throughout the season. J.L. said, how is Mike Williams not a clear wide receiver one today? He is. I'm just saying, like, when we do, like, the season draft, you know, our drafts next season. 22 drafts. Yeah, where he'll be drafted. Of course, if we're drafting today, you know, I would be taking a... He's not a clear wide receiver number one if we redraft today. Yeah, I would be... You might be doing a mock draft tomorrow and we'll see how high he goes. Yeah. Yeah, I'm just, I'm saying, I'm saying as a draft, not like where does he line up in the rankings is what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah, where does he line up on the seasons so far? Because he is. Like, Joc said, wide receiver one. So dominant. He looks so good. Otherwise, in this game, Keenan Allen, he looked great too. I mean, because Justin Herbert looked great and he got the ball to his playmakers, including Austin Eckler, who got six catches, 52 yards and a receiving touchdown himself. Oh, he looked good. Man, this is kind of more or less what we expect out of this offense. Is there anything you guys would like to add here? One thing I will say is a lot of people were expecting Jared Cook to be a decent, tight end. I did. This season. I'll be honest with you. I did. This is the first of the season. This offense has gone through Mike Williams, Eckler and Keenan Allen, and that's pretty much it. So until further notice, he was one of those guys that you could draft late, maybe play in the right matchups. And I think right now you can't trust Jared Cook. Yeah, it looked like it. After week one, it looked like he was going to be a pretty feature part of this offense, but it has been pretty disappointing in the last two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Jared Cook, it's the landscape of tight ends. When you're looking at those late round guys, I think he's a guy still worth throwing your lineup when you're talking about like the guys in between the 12 and like 15 category. But yeah. Yeah. You know, you're going to get weeks like this. You're going to get weeks like this. Yeah. And then Dylan said, Mike Williams not being a wide receiver one next year is a hot tick. I love that Dylan. I'm on the bus with you, man. I'm there. How much did you Venmo him to keep talking? I know Dylan. Dylan is my friend. I Venmoed him all of my money, which is why I've been why I've been asking for money during the stream. Why do you think? Marty said no Venmo in Canada. Jail. Sorry. That's not an excuse. You can mail me a physical check. Come on, Marty. The physical checks actually still exists. Oh, a hundred percent. I've got some, I've got some over there, you know, physical checks. When was the last time you used one? Honestly, not that long ago, maybe like a year and a half. Anyway, again, like I already mentioned the chiefs lost this game. They're one in two guys and car is on fire. It's been a great year. I got it up like in the corner. Ten yard line right now. 2828 with a minute 55 left, at least for me.  I love football. You might see our first tie of the year. Hi guys. You never know. We'll see. We'll see. But on the Kansas City side of this ball, I just mentioned they lost the churches or wanted to. It keeps surprising me. It keeps surprising me. My home's had a fine fantasy game. No worries there. I think the big thing I want to highlight is kind of where it's a layer. Come back game. We're talking about it over the. You and I've been saying it's 100 yards. Let's go. We got a reception touchdown, which is great to see. Clyde Edwards layer. Can you can you trust him going forward? Jay, tell me, I think he's perfectly fine as RB two. I mean, that's what he was drafted as. And I think he's, you know, it's not going to always be this way because this team is a past first team. It's going to go through Hill. It's going to go through Kelsey. And then, you know, Patrick Mahomes like to do those shovel passes to Pringle Hardman and all those random random guys that have a one touchdown. Like, what is a, where is he at? Nicole Hardman with his one touchdown today. So I think he's thought the upside is limited, but I think he's got a pretty safe floor. Yes. Yes. I think the floor. Let's not talk. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. Don't you worry. We can skip that game. We don't have to talk about it. It's fine. Um, I, I, I, this gives me so much confidence in Clyde Edwards. I'm excited. I'm excited for him going forward. Um, otherwise, Nicole Hardman had a good game. I think, didn't you have him in online up jail? I did. I had, yeah. Emergency start. I had to start. It worked out. It worked out. But yeah. My last point on Clyde Edwards, the layer here is here are his attempts. Uh, weeks one through three, 14, 13, 17. That is solid. His yards for Kerry has increased every single week. Uh, I completely agree with Josh. I think, uh, we're going to just start to see him hopefully get more efficient. It's just, it hasn't been, hasn't been quite clicking yet. And today we saw it click a little bit more and I expect that going forward. Now I will mention, he did fumble. He did fumble. That's all I want to mention. He did fumble again. And I think that's encouraging though, that he fumbled and he still got this work. They still use them in the offense. So a lot of times you see, forgiveness up with, yeah, which you don't see very often, uh, in the NFL, you know, it's the old school. You fumble, you're off the field, but they still use them after the fumble. So that tells me that they want to get him involved. And what people so easily forget, it's still only week three. We still, in the grand scheme of things, we don't know anything. Like just basically everything we said, don't pay any attention to it because it's not going to do anything by the end of the year. Nah, I'm kidding. Right. Edward Soler running back one by the end of the season, guaranteed, guaranteed, wide receiver one. Dynasty. Take it to the house. But the way that Justin Jefferson started the season last year, this point last year, this year, how about just started the season this year? He just had a, he had a huge day today. High performance right now. Yeah. Yeah. So the thing is, you know, people who are giving up on the week so far, Justin Jefferson. Wow. People were giving up on CEH. You know, it's still very early as from week one to week two to week three, what we think we know has changed so much each week. Do not overreact. Sorry. I'll step off my soapbox. Shout out. Why can't whatever it's a layer hold the ball. So I hope there didn't, arms wasn't in here when I was talking bad about Rojo. Tyrie Till, he did get seven targets, five receptions for 56 yards. I would not be concerned in the slightest. Right. Yeah. Nope. Oh yeah. The chiefs are who we thought they were still, even though they're just loose. Yeah. They're fantasy producers are still producing. Yeah. I'm not too concerned about anyone here. Completely agree. All right, boys. Let's move on to the next one here. We got the New England Patriots, not really able to do much against the New Orleans Saints who we were really concerned about. They, you know, the, when we talk about these teams last week, the Saints were really disappointing while the Patriots really put a beating on Zach Wilson and the Jets. This game was, did have the Patriots favored by three points going in and they lost. So they really disappointed here. When we look at the win percentage graph that we all love, the Patriots were favored for a split second here. And then it's like, nah, nah, the Saints are the better team today. Just flip it. Just flip it and we're good. But guys, let's start with the Saints here. Right. They were the away team and they, they, they, Alvin Kamar looked good. We needed to see this for it now. And Kamar purposes Winston kind of did what he's been doing all season.   You can't trust James Winston right now. Yeah, you got two touchdowns, but I mean 13 completions, 128 yards. He's yet to throw for 150 yards. So outside of that, you know, the five touchdowns he got in week one, he has not looked good. The only Saint that I'm starting right now is Alvin Kamara. And that's it. I, I agree 100% Jay. The only Saint I want to put in my lineup right now is Alvin Kamara. Call away as an emergency flex. Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't even be that comfortable with that. Honestly. Yeah. I don't think I'd want him as an emergency flex either because you did good today though. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Emergency guys. Okay. Okay. Emergency. Sure. Sure. So. The only other player I would start also is the defense. Defense has played really well throughout season. News flash. The defense is not a player. Just wanted to throw that up. Position. There are many players. It's like, it's like, it's like Power Rangers. They all just, they make one. It's one single entity. And the Raiders did win the game just by the way. Yes. Let's go Raiders. Beach to it. Raiders have or just like, I swear. I, Josh, did I not say it earlier? Like I can't fit. What are the Raiders? No one gets them. It feels like, it feels like they have just like gotten very lucky. Like there's so many flutes. This is crazy. This is, I can't believe they won again. Now guys, on the Patriots side of the ball, they were the losers of the Saints and it's kind of weird seeing, you know, the Saints scored 28 points. Really Alvin Kamara was their fantasy producer. Period. On the Patriots side of the ball, Jacoby Myers, their wide receivers actually had good games, especially in PPR formats. Um, Matt Jones, I don't know if he can be relied on, but I think the most disappointing thing is Damian Harris, JL. Did anything stand out to you on the Patriots side of the ball here? Honestly, Matt Jones did not, just did not look very good. The Patriots offense still has some things to work through it. You know, they're, they're working with a rookie quarterback. These types of things are expected to look at all the rookie quarterbacks apart from Trey Lance, who doesn't currently starting. Like they're all having issues adjusting right now. So I think it's a product of that. It's a product of this, this offense, uh, being the high turnover, right? Like a lot of these, these guys, this is their first season playing with each other. So I'm not too worried. I am worried. Don't get me wrong, but also like redrapting any of these guys to, you know, that high that it's going to be, um, having an issue. I don't think any of them are must starts. I wouldn't, I wouldn't classify any Patriot as a must start. No, I completely agreed. The guy who I like most got hurt, James White, you know, he had one attempt and then he was ruled out pretty quickly. So it's, there's a chance he could miss some time. Uh, the one thing I will say, we were talking about earlier that Kendrick Bourne touchdown was phenomenal. It was, it was beautiful. You haven't seen it go, go find that replay. It was, it was pretty sick, but, uh, especially if James White is out, you know, the Ramon J. Stevenson and what JJ Taylor are going to be the only guys behind, um, Damian Harris. So it could be a struggle for this Patriots offense. They were behind the whole game too. So, uh, it's expected that Damian Harris wouldn't have a very good game. Guys, I want to bring this up through three weeks, through three weeks. Jacobi Myers has 29 targets, 19 receptions. While the second on the team is Nelson Aguilar with 17 targets to Jacobi Myers 29 and 10 receptions to Jacobi Myers 19. Jacobi Myers looks to be the most targeted person on this offense by far. Um, in PPR leagues, I think he's worth owning. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And maybe even putting your lineup. Yeah. What I was saying before was my starts, but Jacobi Myers is absolutely a viable flex player here. Yeah. And even Nelson Aguilar. I'm going to throw him out there. Um, Jacobi Myers is a bit impressing me. And Mac Jones just loves throwing those short, accurate balls. And that's kind of where Jacobi Myers lives. I've got to say I'm disappointed in both the tight ends. Hunter Henry and John O's Smith thought all the money they spent on both of these guys, they would use them in the offense and it just simply has not been there so far. Yeah. They've been disappointed. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. Completely agree. Simon said the Saints are so confusing. They really are. And we got inceptivists. Inceptivists. Did I say that right? I need 15 for Miles Sanders PPR. Is it possible? It's not only possible, sir. It's not only possible. It's guaranteed. Josh guaranteed. If it doesn't happen, Josh is going to Venmo you money.  I'll Venmo you your buy-in. If it doesn't happen. No, I'm joking. It's possible. You might need to clarify that, Josh. Is it possible? Yes. Is it likely? It's right there. It's like a 50-50 shot. Flip of coin. I think he has a really good shot of doing it, but. I think he's going to need a touchdown to get it done. And what worries me with Gates. Gain well has been getting a lot of work in the red zone. That's what.  I think Miles Sanders is extremely talented, but definitely have to be a little bit concerned that he's not being used in the two-minute offense and he's not being used in the red zone. Yeah. It's concerning. Yeah. I'm projecting him just under 15. So it's absolutely in the realm of possibilities. And, you know, I hope that this is going to be a high scoring game against Dallas here. So I would be fine. I would be optimistic. Cross your fingers, sir. And again, you know, back. I'll fax you some Bitcoin if you need it. Moving on to the next game. We can move on. We can skip this one. No, we can't. We got to recap the game. We got to recap the week. Tim said, dang, big, sad. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Big, sad. I'm sorry, Tim. Tim's a big Miami fan.  Listen. It happened to Josh and I too. Tim, I'll fax you a hug. I'll fax you a hug. I'm hurting right now, too. This is a blank piece of paper. I hope everyone has fax machines ready because we do a lot of faxing over here. So, yeah. Andal gives out Andal credit. And we give out faxes. Yeah. Bitcoin hugs, you know. Just to meet Josh's butt. Just photocopied his butt and faxed it. It does not want to seem to load the team stats, but we have the player stats. Okay. And that's, that is all we need, right? Are you, are you hacking them right now? Jay did something here. Hold on. Hold on. Yep. Yep. It happens. Just imagine me as the cat jiff just going on the computer like that. The Giants lost this game. It was a three point game. They lost seven to fourteen. Did you have to say that? Did you have to say that the Giants lost the game? The Giants were three point favorites going. No, two and a half point favorites going into this game. Again, Vegas knows how to set these lines, don't they? And Fandall, Fandall knows how to set these lines because that was the Fandall line. Let's go. Yeah. I don't know.  I know he didn't get that touchdown. I know it's a little disappointing still, but you've got to continue to start Calvin Ridley. But guys, is there anyone else that you feel comfortable starting at all? Jay, tell me. No, simply, simply that. There you go. Mike Davis had a decent day. I mean, he got 12 carries, four receptions. So if you drafted Mike Davis as like a RB three. Yeah, exactly. They figured me out. All right, guys, I'm out. Didn't happen if you can't see it. Yeah, it's true. Mike Davis, I think he's a solid flex play. You know, if he would have wound up getting a touchdown, he'd had a really good day, but close to double digit points, four catches, you know, 12 carries. It's solid. Corral Patterson is still getting ridiculous usage. And I'll be honest with you. He looks better on the ground than Mike Davis does. Like he, I like the way that they're using him, but I have to say I don't understand why they won't throw the ball to Kyle Pitts. Why do you use a top five pick on a Titan like Kyle Pitts and not throw him the ball? Lee Smith got more receptions than Kyle Pitts. Let me repeat that. Lee Smith, I think that's his name. Lee Smith, he's an old, your mainstay. He's an old soul, but before this game, I wasn't too concerned about Kyle Pitts because he was getting the targets, but they only targeted him three times this game. I still long term, I think Kyle Pitts is going to be fine, but it just reminds me of how in the past, that they refused to throw Julio Jones in the end zone. The Falcons for some reason, excuse me, in the red zone, the Falcons just a frustrating offense. They don't do what many would seem to think is just the, the easy thing to do, get Kyle Pitts involved. But I think he'll be fine long term, but it's extremely frustrating. I'm with you. And honestly, I'm seeing something in the chat right here. And I just, I got to put it up because he, he sounds like he's in need. He says, please, I need opinions. I'm down 13. Reger or Sermon, I have a very obvious opinion in my book. And it's Trace Sermon. He was already announced as the starter. And if it may be, regardless, it's Trace Sermon, the 49ers. Kyle Shanahan's running scheme is able to produce, you know, ample fantasy points year in and year out, regardless of who it is running the football, Trace Sermon starter, it's got to be Trace Sermon over Jalen. One thing I will say sports fan, let us know if it's a PPR league. Cause if it's, if it's not PPR, there's no question. I assume it's PPR. I will lean Sermon here as well. The only thing that scares me is Shanahan again. I do like Trace Sermon. I do think he's going to get the touches, but you'd ever know with, with Kyle Shanahan. So I do lean Sermon as well. Reger has looked pretty good this year, honestly. He had a touchdown called back last week that he stepped out of bounds that he would have had. I think he had a, I am pretty sure he had a touchdown called back both the last two weeks, but I couldn't. Oh, I don't know about week one. I know he did yesterday. Yeah. Yesterday. Yeah. Well, yesterday too. He wasn't playing. Yeah. Yeah. Yesterday. Yeah. But definitely a week too. He had one called back. But yeah. Is it, is it Sermon for you too, Jalen? My brain says Sermon. My brain says Sermon. He's running back. He's going to get more, probably more of the carries. I hope, I hope that this game does not go in a way that, I'm concerned that we haven't seen it from Trace Sermon and that, even though he's named the starter that, that they don't use him in that way. Reger is going against Dallas, which doesn't have a great secondary. And I'm hoping is going to be a really good game considering it's a, you know, entered division and it's a Monday night prime game. I might, I might go Reger if I want that, that high upside, but the smart play is Sermon here. So I had to give that, that caveat, that, the context to that. So basically you're saying Josh and I are smart and go with our decision. So it's Sermon. It's Sermon. Not, it's Sermon. Elijah Mitchell was announced out and like, just real quick guys, what are the odds that Dak and Zeke put up more and 40 points combined tomorrow in a PPR league? I would put it under 50% for sure. A Dak, I'll put, I'll put him at like 20, 20, well just over 20 points while Zeke's right under 20 points, which puts you pretty close to 40. I'm going to say the real, what I would do over under at is 36 points for these guys. So 40% I'd say, I'd say more likely than not to be honest with you. I expect a lot of points to be scored. And you know, Amar Cooper is going to play this, Dak has shown that he's looked phenomenal. It's going to be on Zeke. I think Dak is going to get the points. It just depends if Pollard is getting the work out of the backfield or Zeke's able to get a touchdown or two. You agree. What do you think, Kyle? Yeah, I think that they're, I think that the Eagles offense is going to be able to, to score some points against this Dallas defense. And I think that Dallas offense is going to have to respond. And I don't think that Eagles defense is as scary as it might seem based off of the last two weeks. I think that, I think that they're going to have trouble. And I wouldn't say it's like guaranteed. I'm not confident about it. Like I think I'm projecting them. When you, when you add their projections together, it's going to be right above 40. So I'm not saying that it's guaranteed, but I would be optimistic. Let's say 60 40 for me. Let's get into this New York Giants game guys. Take one Barley finally had a decent game. 16 carries, 51 yards, one rushing touchdown. I knew there was that scare where he did come out of the game and a lot of people, I think were nervous. He did have six catches for 43 yards. This isn't encouraging to see, but Sterling Shepherd also was knocked out of this game, which is probably part of the reason while Barley got six receptions, right guys? Um, is there anything that stood out to you in this game personally, JL that you kind of wanted to go over here? Um, yeah, it's kind of not much to me. Yeah, no, I wish that we would have seen some more, uh, you know, efficient, uh, performance out of safe one Barley. Uh, but honestly, they're going to use him. Like who else are they going to use? They have Zequon Barkley. You're going to use him. And we, you know, we said all week, we said last week at the, on this, uh, on the Sunday night recap that Zequon Barkley is going to be fine. Don't worry. Um, and they're working him back into this. My biggest concern is just going to be whether this giant's offense is going to be able to actually move down the field. Um, but I'm perfectly happy with, with Zequon Barkley this week. Anything to add, Jeff? Yeah. Um, I think it's more of a volume play now with Barkley. Uh, it's going to take some time. We all knew that Barkley knocking off the rust for the injury last year. I'm a little bit concerned from a fantasy perspective. He's yet to have that Zequon Barkley look on the field. He had that one rush. I think it was last week that 40 yard rush that like, all right, that, that's a Barkley play. That's the Barkley that I know. Um, he didn't really have that today. I watched almost this entire game as a Giants fan. Um, so I am a little bit concerned. I want to see some more of those plays, but like you said, the six reception to 43 yards is going to keep his value up there. I still think he's a running back one, simply based on volume. Uh, but not only did shepherd go out, but Darius Slayton was out for this game too. So, um, I think this also kind of going down to Kateria Stoney, those two guys were out and he still only had two catches. So I, that's, let's not talk about Tony too much, but yeah, you would, you would expect that's if, uh, Tony doesn't get involved here, Tony, when is he going to get involved? Marty said, Jay, change your name to L man, Jay. Marty, come on. That's messed up Marty. He's still, I co-managed like 16s with Marty. I thought we were boys, but I guess obviously not. NBA rig said, I was looking for you guys on Twitch, but I guess you're only on YouTube. We're actually on Twitch too, on Fandals channel. Just look up Fandal on Twitch and make sure that you hit the follow button on there too and subscribe. And if you're watching us on YouTube. We're here every single Sunday, uh, at 7pm Eastern time, recapping the, uh, you know, the earlier games. So we'll be here. Guys, we're moving on. We're moving on to this Pittsburgh Steelers Cincinnati Bengals game. The Steelers were two point favorites in this and the Bengals straight up dominated them. Um, if we look at our fun little wind cracker craft, you know, uh, the, the Bengals really took over, um, just before halftime there. Um, in terms of the Cincinnati Bengals, we knew that T Higgins wasn't going to play in this game. So errors were pointing out for Tyler Boyd and Jamar Chase. Tyler Boyd looks so good at the beginning game. Getting most of his production at the beginning, getting that touchdown didn't do much afterwards. Jamar Chase did what we expected more or less. Joe Burrow was a little disappointing from a fantasy perspective of what was usable. Really, what I want to focus on here is Joe Mixon. Can you start Joe Mixon in your lineups going forward? Jay, let's come to you and your Joe Mixon fan. Yes. How does this performance make you feel? Yeah, I'm still per, I mean, 18 carries, 90 yards. He got a catch. I'm still all in on Joe Mixon. This offense hasn't fully gotten started. You know, they're still playing a little bit conservative with Joe Burrow coming back from injury. I've watched a lot of the Bengals this year, and they're still, I think by the end of the season, this is going to be an extremely dangerous offense. Even though Burrow only had less than 200 yards, still had three touchdowns. And that was without one of his top options, T Higgins. Like we mentioned earlier, Chamar Chase has just looked phenomenal. You know, everybody, oh, he can't catch the ball because it doesn't have those white stripes on it. Yeah. The overreaction theater in the off season just blows my mind sometimes. Wait, how? Jay, are you hacking again? Number fire? Total yards for Pittsburgh was negative 4,580. What in the world? What did Pittsburgh do to you? The Russian yards were the problem here. Oh, they targeted Najee Harris so much, they just broke the game. Yards per play is great. Negative 52 points. Can you imagine? Every time they snap the ball, it shoots back. Just turned around and just ran backwards since, you know. But yeah, that is, that's me again. So I'm sorry about that. That is so funny. But guys, I'm here to tell you, along with, Joe Nixon's in your line-ups, guys. Joe Nixon in your line-up. Anything else to add here, Jail? Yeah, I mean, we knew it was going to be a tough matchup. Pittsburgh is pretty good against the run. Pittsburgh is a good defense. So, you know, it was a little disappointing. I would have loved to see him, see him get some touchdowns here, be a little bit more efficient with it. But 18 carries. You got to follow the carries, you know. That's the sticky stat you want to look at every week. If he's getting the opportunities, it'll, it'll regress. Yes. Let's look at the Pittsburgh side of the ball. Edward coming in here saying, Big Ben considered a retirement after today. I don't know if it's a joke or serious. Yeah, no, I think either way. It's a joke, but I think he probably should. The greatest thing in my mind here. Well, there's two things. We knew that Deontay Johnson was missing the game. Juju Smith Schuster got knocked out of the game. Chase Claypool getting nine receptions. And Nashi Harris getting 14 carries and 14 receptions on 19 targets.  Yeah, this was, this was, this was, this was kind of crazy in my mind. Chase Claypool got 16 targets himself. 10 catches, 107 yards. Well, what this tells me is when the Integans are out. Oh my. Nashi Harris and Chase Claypool are going to be fantastic. I don't know if that's going to be the case going forward. I expect Juju and Deontay Johnson back next weekend. If that's the case, let's say they're back. Can we rely on Chase Claypool and Nashi Harris jail? Either one. Nashi Harris, yes. Absolutely. I mean, we were expecting this coming into the season. We've seen it since the preseason. They're just going to feed Nashi Harris. There reminds me a lot of Safe One Barkley's rookie year. And that's what you want to see. And Nashi Harris is a very talented player. Claypool, I don't know that you're going to see this, this many targets. He historically has not been a like high target guy, but more of just a big play guy. But I'd love to see it, you know, nine, nine receptions and 96 yards. Like he's talented. So absolutely. I'm happy starting him every week. Yeah. Yeah. Nashi Harris absolutely happy start Claypool. This is a good thing. This is a good sign of things that come in my opinion at the very least. Yeah, completely. At the very least. At the very least. Jay, anything else to add on the Pittsburgh side of the ball here? Big Ben. Bad. Big Ben. Big Ben. Big Ben. Big Bad. I was expecting a little bit of a bounce back, but man, he's just looked pretty terrible this season.   Like honestly, he's looked terrible. Big Ben. Big Ben. I'm not agreeing with you like I think that's a pretty good way to sum it up. The next matchup we have here is the Arizona Cardinals in the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Arizona Cardinals took care of business. They were seven and a half point favorites while the Jacksonville Jaguars were at home today. And look, it was a close game in the middle of the year. It got a little rocky. It looked like the Jaguars might be able to pull it out. And the Cardinals are going to be 3-0. And man, Kyler Murray continues to drive this offense. He didn't have any passing touchdowns, but he was efficient passing and he did have a rushing touchdown, which stands out to me the most. There's a couple of things. There's the two running backs. There's James Conner scoring two touchdowns and Chase Edmonds. And then there's Christian Kirk and Ron Dale Moore. Dondria Hopkins, I got to say this. I don't think we have to worry because he was doubtful actually coming into this game. He ended up playing. I think his injury had something to do with this. But let's start with James Conner and Chase Edmonds real fast. Is this a sign of things to come? Jay? Jay? What do you think? I think it's going to be a pretty frustrating offense from a running back standpoint. I think they're both going to be involved. Kyler Murray, you know, another rushing touchdown this week. James Conner got two. So I think that they're both going to be involved. Chase Edmonds was more involved in the passing game. That's going to help boost his floor. But James Conner stealing those touchdowns like that. That hurts, you know, if Edmonds was able to get just one of those touchdowns, man, like you'd be excited to start him as your RB two. And I still think he's fine, but I think it caps his ceiling with his, excuse me, touchdowns getting vultured from both Conner and Murray. Yeah. Do you agree there? I have a little bit of a disagreement there, not fully, but just a different perspective here. I think we always knew that Conner was going to have a role in this offense. And really the only difference here in this game was, was the touchdowns. I mean, Chase Edmonds is still heavily used, same number of carries. Conner was just a little bit more efficient and got more of the goal line work. And what really stood out to me is Chase Edmonds, seven receptions. He wasn't super efficient with that seven reception is 49 yards. So it's not super efficient, but compared to James Conner's one reception, that to me, I would much rather have Chase Edmonds going forward, especially PPR at seven points right there. Not including, you know, not even considering the yards as well. Yeah. And in terms of what I agree with you guys, Chase Edmonds, I think still going to be a little bit more consistent while James Conner is going to be more of that touchdown guy. I think Kenyan Drake and Chase Edmonds last year, but Chase Edmonds has a little bit more of a role compared to last year. So Chase Edmonds a little bit more safe. Conner's going to have that touch on upside every week though. And Conner did was able to get about roughly 20 more yards on the ground with those rushes than Chase Edmonds. So I think it's, I think it's going to be, you know, week to week. If Edmonds gets that touchdown, his value is going to skyrocket, but he's definitely got the safer floor. Yeah. Without the touchdowns, he, I mean, he finishes with what? Or, you know, around five, a little five to six points. So, you know, I think most people would be, would be pretty worried with that, with the slow start already. So let's touch on saving, but you just, I don't think you can expect two touchdowns every week. No. Now with Christian Kirk and Ron Delmore, I think a lot of people were comparing these two last week. Ron Delmore had a growing role with this offense, but now Christian Kirk went off and was one of the top receivers for the weeks. I remember something for Andre in a few yards. I don't think you're ever going to be able to rely on one of these guys throughout the season. Ron Delmore in a dynasty context. Yes. All day. I want to get him still. They're both going to have big games throughout the year, but I don't know if I feel comfortable putting either of these guys in my flex right now. Yeah. I think either way, you're just hoping for, you know, that, that, that receiver is the one that pops off that week. And we're not seeing a clear trend. Yeah. Yeah. I think this, this offense is designed to ride the hot hand and, you know, with whoever's got the best matchup, you know, Ron Delmore had eight targets last week. Christian Kirk has eight targets this week. They like to use that for wide receiver set a lot. You know, they call it the air raid offense for a reason. I am comfortable starting either of these guys in the flex, but it's the definition of boom, bust with both of them.  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So here's the thing on the other side of the ball. It's a little bit different. They're not quite the Arizona Cardinals over there. Kyler Murray kind of helps. I'm sorry. Yes. On the other side of the ball, but we did see James Robinson finally have a breakout game this season.  I'm very excited for him this week. I think this is going to be his breakout week. And he did do it with six catches and 15 carries and a rushing touchdown. He was by far the best Jaguars player today. In the receiving category, LaVisca Chanel played Marvin Jones, DJ Chark. Is it just going to be a revolving door of like, we don't know who to play at the receive wide receiver position? JL, what do you think here? Can we trust any of these wide receivers for the Jaguars? Not while the passing game is not moving, right? Yeah. We haven't seen this offense. And you know, it's partly Trevor Lawrence is not playing well. It's partly, I think Urban Meyer doesn't quite have, have this figured out yet. But you know, 22 completions on 34 attempts, 219 yards at the end of the game like this and one passing touchdown. I'm just, that's not quite enough volume to support, you know, two fumbles as well. Yeah. So until, until we get some clarity, I'm, I'm not starting any of them, but except for Marvin Jones, I think you can start. He's been pretty consistent. I would be fine starting him week to week. Six catches for 62 yards. That that's, that's fine. Someone encouraging at least, I mean, DJ Chark got a touchdown. So he had more fantasy points, but touchdowns they're, they're a little bit more fluky. Yeah. And I don't expect, you know, I think Marvin Jones, I'm sorry. Yeah. Marvin Jones is the only consistent one there, even if the offense isn't quite moving as much. Yes. Yes. Moving on to our next game here, we did have the New York Chess get completely shut out, score zero points against the Denver Broncos. The New York Jets offense is not looking good right now. I think a lot of people thought it, I think a lot of people thought that the Patriots defense kind of was the reason that the Jets were so bad looking last week. And you know, maybe people didn't think the Broncos were quite as good, but now the Broncos are three and oh, they look great jail. You were talking about this coming into the game, right? You, you were, you're thinking the Broncos were a better team than people expected. I will say real fast, the Broncos were 10 and a half point favorites. 10 and a half. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was, I think Josh, you and I were talking about this morning that seemed high at the time. Like the Jets would be that bad, but yeah. Look at this wind probability grab. Whoa. That is curvy. Never stood a chance Jets. I am sorry. But on the Jets side of the ball, no, no fantasy scoring. Oh boy. Corey Davis was the highest fantasy scorer with 6.6. Fantasy points five catches 41 yards. This is gross guys. Can we rely on anyone here? No. Nope. I mean, if there's anyone, it's Corey Davis. Yeah. That's what I'm going to say is that the only one that I think you can send me rely on is Corey Davis, but I wouldn't rely on. I think he's more of the guy. You don't want to. The only guy you could consider something out of. Yeah. You can expect something out of in the week. Right. But I mean, 160 yards passing yards by Zach Wilson. Like, what are you going to do? What are you going to do? You can't, can't make any fantasy points from that. Nice. Bench, your new, your Jets going forward. You can start Corey Davis in a pinch, but on the Broncos side of the ball, I think it's going to be a little bit more encouraging, especially from the running backs, Melvin Gordon and Javante Williams continue to be each of them. They keep producing pretty good fantasy points, guys. Pretty good games here for them today. But yeah, all three weeks though, like they've each been usable, I believe. All of a sudden a little bit of a disappointing game. Tim Patrick, a good game. These running backs though, I think this is the highlight in my mind. Can we keep on starting both these guys? Yeah. I was saying all off season that Melvin Gordon was getting severe. You were. He's getting a lot of value. He was deserved it. Well, you know, obviously JL has a personal problem with Melvin Gordon, but I do not.  He played pretty well last year. I think as of right now, he could be one of the steals of the draft season. So far as he was going super late, he's been available on a lot of waiver wires. And he's had, he's got two touchdowns on the season. He's got one over a hundred yards in the first week. They're going to use both of these guys. And I think that this is the type of offense that they're going to run. Bridge waters look good, but he's not a guy that's going to air it out. They've got a good defense.  And I expect both Gordon and Javante Williams to produce pretty much this whole year. Yeah. I will say they had a pretty easy opening schedule here. Giants, Jacksonville jets, but they played Baltimore pit. We're going to learn. I can't believe I glued them in this, but the Raiders and Cleveland and then Washington. That is a really tough schedule coming up. The game scripts might not go in their favor, but the double digits carries by both of these guys is encouraging and Melvin Gordon's passing work. Oh, I'm sorry. Gosh, receiving work. He's a really good passer. Guys, I'm here to tell you, continue to start Portland Sutton. I know five receptions for 37 yards isn't great, but I'm still confident. And one thing to look and see if Jerry Judy is available in your waiver wire. He is going to be coming back this season. So I've seen he's still available in close to 25% of leagues according to Yahoo. So he could be somebody you could throw at the end of your bench, especially if or if you have an IR spot that you could throw them on for now. All right, guys, moving on to our next game here, man, we were talking about this one a little bit because it went to overtime. It was a fantastic game. The Raiders pulled it out 31 to 28 last minute. This was a fun one guys. The Raiders were three and a half point favorites at home against the Dolphins. They did not cover the spread. Vegas did it again. They went by three points and it did go back and forth a little bit. The Dolphins were looking good at the beginning of the game, but the Raiders kind of took over the end. The Dolphins tried to make it come back, but couldn't quite do it. Looking at the Miami side of the ball, Jacobi Prasad had a decent game. They really got Gisiki and Jalen Waddle involved, but it was a lot of short, short passes for both these guys. Man, Gisiki is really the surprising thing, but Jalen Waddle, he continues to get targets. I think he's going to be a consistent producer. Can Gisiki be a consistent producer? Can Gisiki be a consistent producer with this team? Do you guys have an opinion there? I don't know. I mean, it depends on if two is going to come back and they're just... He's just placed on IR, so he's at least going to miss two more games. So yeah, I wouldn't be too stressful. I mean, through the first two weeks, he had nine total targets. He had 12 that just this week alone. I don't know if that's going to continue. If we start next week, we see Berset target Gisiki just as much again, then maybe I start to pay attention. Maybe we see a trend there, but till then, I'm just going to chalk this up to a weird game. Berset for 50 passes. He's not going to be doing that every week, because that's a lot of passes for Berset. Yeah. Wow. And two, if this is only happening with Berset under center, two is obviously going to come back and be the starter. So Gisiki seems to always do this.  So I'm not buying it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm with you, but Jalen Waddle's production, I think can be consistent throughout the year. I think they want to get him involved with the 13 targets and 12 receptions. 58 reception hearts with 12 receptions. That's impressive. That nice, that nice screen pass on the one. That was fantastic. Great play call. Real fast. There's a question in the chat. Will CD give me 12 points to win this week and a half point PPR League? And I am here to tell you yes. I love you. This is the first, this is the first time I feel really confident saying yes or no, but I think CD is easily going to get 12 points. He might have that in the first quarter. Let's be honest. Yeah. So I'm all about that. Now on the Raiders side of the football, Derek Carr, he continues to put up big, big yards. Peyton Barmer, 23 carries while I think a lot of people called Kenyan Drake would be the more of the, you know, not maybe not the leader in terms of carries, but at least like split carries with Peyton Barmer and Peyton Barmer look good. I think this is a good sign for Josh Jacobs going forward. Is there anything that stood out to you in this game JL that you wanted to mention? No, I mean, I'm glad that they started to get the receivers a little bit more involved, not just hyper target Darren Waller. But yeah, I thought rugs and Edwards both looked good. I don't know. I mean, until further notice, I think we have to consider the Raiders are, you know, top percentile team while and Simon would be happy to see Hunter Redford getting five. I was getting, I was going to mention that. Simon. Simon, I think we talked about it and he said, we were talking about our favorite Raiders, and he was like, am I crazy to think Hunter Renfro? I love, I love Hunter, Hunter Renfro. He's been so consistent throughout this, the last three weeks too. I'm taking Henry rugs and Brian Edwards over Hunter Renfro still, but Hunter Renfro is the safest. Safety, yeah, you can't get even guaranteed, Hunter Renfro is your guy. Yeah. And now if you want more than 10 points, then good luck with Hunter Renfro. Yeah. He's got 16, just this week. Yeah, you put respect on Hunter Renfro's name. I see a question in the chat here, guys. We talked about Gibson a little bit earlier. Jay, I want to come to you with this one. Should I sell Gibson high? I feel like all of his production was from one play. What do you think about that, Jay? I would not. It's so hard to get a running back who's can, excuse me, consider the bell cow. Excuse me. Yeah, little tickle. No, I agree with you. Yeah. One of his one play did kind of produce all his fantasy points. You're absolutely correct, but he's so talented and he showed it on that one play. Yeah, exactly. And he's going to be the guy out of this backfield. JD McKissick will be involved in certain games, but them getting rid of paint barber showed me that they want him to be the bell cow in this offense. It's so hard to get that, especially in fantasy. So for me, no, I would hang on to Antonio Gibson. I have a slightly different opinion. I would say if you can get, if you can sell high, like assuming that someone's willing to, to buy high on, on, on Antonio Gibson, I might consider that, you know, hasn't been, I believe in his talent. Don't get me wrong, but I don't think the office is going to be what we thought. I don't think Antonio Gibson has the ceiling that we thought coming in. So who's somebody you would be comfortable with? JL, let me ask you, who if somebody offered you, yeah, trading. So if somebody offered you say, Mike Williams, I created the worst scenario for myself. Don't ask me that one. Take one or, or Gibson. Oh, how about Swifter Gibson guys? Ooh, that's a good one. I know. I know. This week, Swift looks so good. I think that's a lateral move. I think that's more involved. Swift's more involved in the passing game. And that's the only reason why I might consider Swift. I might lean Swift. Yeah. JL, Mike Williams. No. No. No, no, no. You need Mike Williams like plus, you need like Mike Williams plus like, I don't even know. That's why that's, that's like, yeah, you're at that point, you're, you're really getting Mike Williams at a ceiling. What about Mike Williams and like Chase Edmonds for Gibson? Ooh, now we're talking. Hey, we got to move along here. All right. This is, this is, this is great conversation. I would still keep Gibson in that scenario, but that's just, I'm trying to keep Gibson if I can. I think, yeah. By the way, Jim's to sell Hawkins in terrible week for PPR. It was a bad week. We wouldn't worry. We wouldn't worry. Don't panic. Don't sell low. Oh, he gets, he's, before we've seen him get so many targets, I think that's just going to continue. It's just one game. And wait till he has a really good week and then sell them if you want to sell them then. And then Jim's name, what about like Najee? And that is something I would, I would take Najee. I would take Najee, but I've been a huge Najee stand all off season. So yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you would be able to get him though for Antonio Gibson. After 19 targets. One, one for one trade like that's already hard out here. And I don't think, and Najee's had such a good game.  Now this next game we have here is the, this is like the game of the week coming in. The Rams did outjout the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, giving the Buccaneers their first loss. The Los Angeles Rams are now three and oh, winning 34 to 24 coming into this game. The Rams were one and a half point favorites. And it was a back and forth game throughout. But Tom Brady, he produced like he's done all season Chris Godwin did his thing. And my Kevin's put together a very good game with eight reception in 106 yards. I think all the people in offense produced more or less how we expected ground, maybe a little disappointing. He did get hurt. Yeah. And he got hurt for a little while, but still not a horrible game for a tight end. Anything got to stand out to you guys on the Tampa Bay side. Pretty much one. Exactly. Like you said, how you would expect when, and the only reason came to break really got involved was because Rob Gronkowski did get hurt and he went out. So you give a couple of those catches to Gronkowski. He'd start, he'd continue his hot start like he had. It's nice to see Mike Evans have a game like this. You know, he's not usually a guy that gets a lot of targets. So for him to get eight receptions and over a hundred yards, have a good day without squirting a touchdown. That's encouraging for Mike Evans. Yeah. The only thing that I will add to this, to Tampa Bay analysis is that is Ronald Jones is droppable at this point.  He didn't have a great game, but he's clearly the most used here. Ronald Jones is droppable 100% droppable. I'm not trying to drop him. I wouldn't hold on to him, but let's see. I mean, it depends who you're dropping for. Like we always say, and I'm willing to drop him. Chuba Hubbard, drop him. Get Chuba Hubbard kind of deal. Yeah. I think for this point, you have to. I mean, he's yet to get more than six attempts in a single game. Like, like you said, I think Josh, you said it perfect.  I think he's, he's fine to drop. Now on the LA side of the ball, people produce like we expected Stafford had a great game. Cooper Cup continues to have great games. He's going to be, he's a wide receiver one. I think the rest of the season, the big thing I want to point out though is Robert Woods again with a disappointing week. Guys, I'm really nervous about Robert Woods. Yeah. God. I'm still putting in my flex, but. I'm still not too concerned. He's still playing a lot. I think the expectations have to be reset. I was talking about this earlier in the week in my 10 things video. It was expected to be a one A one B situation. Cup and Woods. And that's not the case. It's obvious that Cooper Cup is the go to guy for Matthew Stafford. He's still getting a lot of targets. He had nine targets last week. He had six targets this week. So I think the big games are going to come. It's just, you have to reset your expectations. Yeah. And just, we have one more game here. That was a, a good run through with the Tampa Bay Rams. The Rams are a good team guys. The Rams are a good team. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that was a, a good run through with the Tampa Bay Rams. The Rams are a good team guys. The Rams are a good team. We have to look out for them. And finally we have the Seattle Seahawks in the Minnesota Vikings, the Minnesota Vikings winning this game. They were two and a half point underdogs actually in Seattle, Seattle Seahawks were away. Is there anything that stands out in this game? DK Medcalf finally had his breakthrough performance. Tyler Locke. It was disappointing, but these guys like we talked about in the past are going to go back and forth. Chris Carson continues to produce. So I don't think there's a ton on Seattle side, but on Minnesota side, Justin Jefferson went off. Is there anything that stands out to you guys this whole game here? I mean, we said, we said last week on our recap that, that DK Medcalf was going to come back, right? Yeah. We knew that a DK Medcalf is super talented and, and not to panic with Tyler Locke it getting his touchdowns in those big plays. And when we saw it this week, and that's good to see. I'm excited for both those guys going forward, but I'm glad that that happened that DK actually had a good game because I feel like people would have definitely started tilting. I was just trying to see what I could find. I haven't found anything yet, but Tyler Locke did go down with a pretty bad injury at the end of the game. I don't know. I haven't seen, I haven't seen anything yet, but it did not look good. I wouldn't be surprised to see if, if he misses some time. That would, that would suck, but it would be beneficial for DK in my mind. Yeah. Hey, I was in a Madison at a good game, which is nice. They just ran him 26 carries and Justin Jefferson finally having his breakout game of the season. Right. Her cousins continues to produce like he does. He's been, he's another guy that's severely disrespected every off season, but he just puts up numbers. All right, guys. We got this, this Sunday night game starting the Green Bay Packers. They got a field goal of the scores three to nothing against the San Francisco 49ers. I am excited to go watch this game. Aren't you guys? Yes. Yes. Quick reminder. Like and follow this stream. You can follow on Twitch. 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