This is a hydrofoil. She is the descendant of a concept more than 75 years old, but because of modern technology, she now has a bright future in the United States Navy. In the age of speed, we need ships that go fast, no matter what the weather, no matter how high the seas. These ships of the future will have small crews, highly skilled in several areas. Their platform must be stable and reliable, versatile, and easy to maneuver. This hydrofoil is operating in heavy seas, yet she maintains a constant level, a destroyer fighting the same conditions, slams and labors. Her speed is slowed by the rough water. Conventional ships like a destroyer are hampered by the added resistance from waves and heavy seas, but hydrofoils are ships with wings. Their foils create lift, and once they are foil-borne, they experience little drag from their relatively small foil systems. The idea of hydrofoils is not new. In 1918, the HD-4 was tested in Canada by her designers Alexander Graham Bell and Casey Baldwin, and even earlier in 1898, Enrico Fornanini had demonstrated a hydrofoil which could make 40 knots. The Navy has been studying hydrofoils since the late 1940s. We put foils on a variety of craft in our search for speed and stability, but this little ship was the turning point for the Navy's program. Sea legs showed the advantages of a fully submerged, automatically controlled foil system, the type that appeared most capable of meeting the Navy's requirements. There are two types of foil systems, fully submerged and surface piercing. The fully submerged system puts the lifting surface completely below the water. Because lift on the foil is relatively unaffected by the water surface, the ship requires an automatic control system to maintain flying height. Surface piercing foils have lifting surfaces that penetrate the water. Lift varies in relation to speed and depth of foil submergence. This system is fundamentally stable because it is self-writing and is used extensively on commercial hydrofoils. However, the fully submerged system provides smoother operation and greater flexibility in heavy seas. Another major distinction in hydrofoils is the distribution of foil areas along the hull. The canard arrangement puts most of the load on large foils at. In the conventional or airplane configuration, most of the load is born on two foils forward of the center of gravity. A third foil is necessary in both cases for stability and control. Foils are built of high strength materials to make them rugged but light. They are retracted for protection and to reduce draft when entering a harbor. Hydrofoils operate much the way a plane is flown. The pilot house resembles a large aircraft cockpit with autopilot, instrumentation, right and left seats. The helmsman handles the controls like a pilot. And hydrofoil sailors speak the pilot's language. Take off, land, fly. Inputs to the automatic control system are provided by height sensors, gyros, and accelerometers. Continuous readings are fed directly through a computer to the foil system. Hydraulic actuators then position the control surfaces to the desired angle. Actual control of the submerged foil differs with each design. On this ship the entire foil is moved to change the angle of attack or lift. This is known as incidence control. Moving the surfaces in response to the automatic control system maintains the ship's altitude and stability even in rough water. A trailing edge flap coupled to an actuation system is used on this hydrofoil. Navy hydrofoils have two types of propulsion systems. One for hull-borne operations, another for foil-borne operations. Maranized gas turbines provide the power required to keep the ship foil-borne. Two types of thrust producers also are used, water jets and propellers. The water jet consists of an inlet water duct, a pump, and jet nozzle. Sea water enters through ducting into the pump and jets out of nozzles onto the stern. Heavily loaded gears and long transmission systems are eliminated and the number of moving parts is substantially reduced. However, water jets require more power than propellers and are efficient only up to about 40 knots. For higher speeds, specially designed propellers are used. Each thrust producer system has its advantages and disadvantages and the choice requires careful analysis. Hydrofoils are expected to operate in the open ocean where they may be subjected to severe storms. While foils may lift the ship above the waves, she is apt to be hull-borne much of the time. The strength of her hull and its seakeeping qualities therefore are of paramount importance. Hulls currently are built of aluminum alloys, which come closest to satisfying requirements of weight, cost, weldability, and resistance to sea water corrosion. Good structural design is imperative when a hydrofoil impacts with waves bigger than her flying height. She also must survive crash landings. In addition to the routine landings she experiences every day, the Navy's four operating hydrofoils are capable of 40 knots when foil-borne. Highpoint was delivered to the Navy in 1963 by the Boeing company. As the Navy's oldest hydrofoil, she has been modified several times. She is 115 feet long with a beam of 33 feet and weighs 120 tons. Foil-borne highpoint is driven by two gas turbine engines. The Canard configuration puts 70% of the foil-borne load on the after foils. Tucumcari was designed and built by the Boeing company and delivered in 1968. She is 71 feet long, has a 19-foot beam and a Canard configuration. A waterjet system driven by a gas turbine engine provides foil-borne propulsion. 120 tons of water a minute. Twice her weight are pumped through this system. Another waterjet driven by a diesel gives her hull-borne power. As a result, she has no propellers. During a recent deployment to Europe, Tucumcari displayed hydrofoil capabilities to other NATO nations. She operated with unconventional ships such as air-cushion vehicles and participated in several fleet exercises. Tucumcari and Flagstaff are gun boats. Both were extensively evaluated during service in Vietnam and are now assigned to the amphibious forces. Flagstaff was designed and built by the Grumman Aerospace Corporation. She is 74 feet long, has a 21-foot beam and displaces 68 tons. She has a conventional foil configuration utilizing solid cast aluminum foils. The foil-borne prime mover is a gas turbine engine. When hull-borne, she is powered by two water jets, each with a diesel engine. Plainview, the Navy's fourth hydrofoil, was built to evaluate the potential of large ocean-going hydrofoils. Designed by Grumman, she was built by the Lockheed Shipbuilding Company. At 212 feet long, 40 feet wide and 320 tons, she is currently the largest hydrofoil in the world. Plainview has the conventional or airplane foil configuration. Thrust comes from two four-bladed propellers made of titanium, the highest speed props now in the Navy. Plainview's Navy crew consists of 20 enlisted men and four officers. Skippers of the Navy's hydrofoils are all young naval officers who come to the ships after extended experience at sea. A fully instrumented ship, the Plainview serves several laboratories and research departments. Instrumentation occupies the area aft of the control station. Television recording and monitoring are used to observe strut and foil areas. Civilians from the research and development community are a constant part of the scene on both Plainview and High Point. Close support comes from the commanding officer of the Special Trials unit. Potentially, Navy hydrofoils can be used to operate offensively against surface combatants. They can conduct surveillance, patrol, and blockade operations in coastal areas and can mount many of the same weapons carried by much larger ships. Successful trials include using a 152-millimeter gun to hit and destroy targets, or firing torpedoes while cruising at speeds up to 36 knots. As they fly above the water, they are less vulnerable to underwater explosions than any other craft. The ability to tow a submerged body could be used for underwater anti-submarine warfare systems, or for minesweeping operations to clear a field of its explosive threat. Depth finders on the foils can sound harbors quickly to see if other ships can enter. Refueling operations can be accomplished two ways, by the conventional alongside method, or by sending a hose aloft to a helicopter hovering overhead. More missions will be forthcoming as the Navy builds larger, faster hydrofoils. For the future, the Navy is planning a number of patrol missile hydrofoils. These high performance craft will have water jets and a canard configuration. They will carry missiles and forward mounted guns. As our oceans grow smaller, the Navy will need ships that are flexible, vast and efficient. Ships capable of covering vast areas in a short time. One answer to many of these demands may rest in the hydrofoil. An exciting concept which holds great promise for the future.


Hello, team. I'm Vice Admiral John Mustin, the 15th Chief of the Navy Reserve. Leading the greatest reserve force in the world is my highest honor and privilege. I'm going to take about 90 seconds to share a few thoughts with you as I take command. First, I want you to know our mission as reserve sailors and officers is incredibly important. As a reserve force, what we do and how we do it is seamlessly integrated into our Navy's operations in every domain. Our Navy, Marine Corps, and joint leaders depend on the strategic depth we contribute to national security. As well as the operational support we provide every single day around the world in every theater of the globe. Collectively, we're a force that is, by design and by necessity, focused on being ready to win. Ready to win isn't a bumper sticker. It's a promise to our nation that each of us is trained, available, and ready to win when we arrive on station. That is, on day one, we will arrive ready to think creatively, operate boldly, and generate a leverage multiplier to our nation's combat power. To that end, I seek your commitment that you're going to get and remain tactically, operationally, and strategically ready. In return for your commitment, you have my assurance that my staff and I will work tirelessly to remove administrative barriers, any inefficiencies or roadblocks that impact your ability to deliver. In closing, you have much to be proud of. We are doing many things well, and yet we still have much to do. I am energized by the road ahead, and I know we're going to accomplish great things together. Most importantly, I look forward to seeing you in the fleet. Keep up the great work. Now let's get busy.


Well, Don and Mike were so excited to have you on This Is Purdue. Thank you for joining us. So we'll start off easy. When did you guys first hear about Purdue? You're from Pennsylvania. You grew up in Indiana, but what was that moment where you heard about Purdue and and how did you decide to come to Purdue? Do you want to start? I guess I should start, right? Well, I was I grew up in Columbus, Indiana, south of Indianapolis and the three major schools in Indiana was Notre Dame, Purdue and and IU. So that's about all the football that I really knew, and college football and all that, and the fact that I only got offered two scholarships. One of them was from Purdue and the other was from IU. Notre Dame just didn't show any interest and that didn't bode well for me, I guess, or for them, you know, in the future. Sure. But you know, Purdue, it was an interesting thing for me because I lived in Columbus on my right side, as I remember, was a dentist from IU and on the other side was an engineer from Purdue. So as we got closer to making a decision, it was like, you know, I felt like a wishbone, really, you know, they were tugging on me both ways. But Purdue just, Purdue made a really good impression on me. It's funny because one of the things I don't remember about Purdue in the campus was the bricks, the brick campuses and all that. And I guess it didn't really hurt that I lived in a brick house in Columbus. So that kind of made me feel at home, really. But I mean, more than that, it just, the first impression I had was the right one, and that usually is the one you go with. So there's where I got an offer and I wanted to be there. What about you, Dom? Yeah, I was quarterback in Johnson, Pennsylvania, and I was recruited and I had multiple schools that I looked at. And in fact, I signed a letter of intent to go to Wake Forest. But then I went to Purdue and I met Bob Gracie, who was kind of my idol at the time, and interviewed with Coach Malinkoff. And I got a greatest sense of commitment and a great sense of values. And it was a school I decided I wanted to go to because the passing offense was amazing and it was quarterback Haven, and Wake Forest wasn't in the same league. So I ended up coming to Purdue and going to pharmacy school. Awesome. And you guys have been friends for over 50 years. We showed up on campus. There were five quarterbacks that were in scholarship. One of them was going to become the replacement for Bob Gracie. So I met him on the practice field competing with him.  You have to think that. And you know, we just competed, really competed. And through the competition, we got to know each other really well because when you compete with someone, you know about them, you know about who they are, you know about what their character is. You know about what their values are. And out of that, we just became, even though we were competing, great friends. So we've been friends since the freshman year. Yeah, it seems strange that that would happen because, you know, it's like, you know, he wanted the position, I wanted the position, so did two or three other guys. But as we, as it developed on itself, you know, we all accepted the role and we all became, you know, we were a team. That's what made us different. Everybody had a role to play. And once it was defined, then it was all about winning the football game for Purdue. This guy could have played for any other big 10 school and just happened that he picked Purdue.  And but he came in many times. And when I was nicked up and he saved us a few times. Did you guys have a favorite memory or a favorite game looking back? Well, my favorite memory is because that was one of the questions I didn't look at was a lot of people wondered why Coach Malinkoff was such a great coach. And this story, I think, tells a story about why he was. He was tough as nails, really tough, diminutive guy. But when he spoke, everybody listened. So we're playing Indiana. It was our senior year. We're in the locker room. Jack had cancer at the time and he was at Lafayette Home Hospital. And he decided against medical authority that he was going to put his robe on and come over to the locker room and meet all the players. So he comes in and he's the normal gruffy and he starts hugging every player. And he said, how much he loved you. And I still cry, I think about it. But that's why he was such a great coach, because he demanded a lot. But you knew he really cared about you. So needless to say, that's not not the best way to get ready for a big game. You know what I'm saying? That's why we're coming in. Oh, he's hugging everybody. But we did go out and beat him and pretty soundly. But the initial move on the field was we were all thinking about Jack's welfare. And unfortunately, the cancer didn't, you know, do them in. Yeah, if you're done, let me add to that one, too. I do remember that. I hadn't thought about that one until you brought it up. Yeah, and I was close to the, well, I was in the room, of course. And I still remember them raising the gate. It was, remember the chains cladding, there he was. And when it got to the point that I saw my offensive lineman on the floor crying, I mean, it's, believe it was going on, I had to get out of there. I mean, I laughed because I had to keep cool because we had a gate coming up here. Yeah, so I got out of there. I mean, it was very, very emotional. You can tell we still feel it.  It's like, you know, we left our motion in the locker room. They ran the ball back, remember? Almost 90 yards, they didn't score. But we regrouped. That was a great game. I remember that one. Yeah, it's a great win for us. A lot of Coach Molikov swords. I won't go into all of them, but he was a great, great coach. And he left a mark on me and Mike, I'm sure, and the rest of the teammates. Is there any other mentor or professor at Purdue that really impacted you both and had an effect on you? Well, I was in the pharmacy school. I was the only football player in the pharmacy school. Really? I was, yeah. And and I had a professor named Dr. Gilbert Banker who ran the Pharmaceuticals group. And he was the one who encouraged me to go to graduate school. And he was part of the faculty advisor group for athletics. So he was kind of the guy that if he thought I needed some pat on the back or whatever, he would call me in. And he was the reason I ended up going to graduate school. So he left a mark on me. Sure. What would you say? I wouldn't say any particular professor. Both of us took I took my education very seriously. And so did Don. I mean, he he was preparing for a future outside of after Purdue. So was I. I really had no inclination coming to Purdue about playing professional football. Really? Oh, no. I just wanted to be be a big 10 quarterback. That would that never enter my mind.  So but I'm kind of getting off that. The reason I said that is because the education was the most important thing to me. And I went into the business school, Crannard. And I had one tutor. I think it was in Costa County. His name was David Floyd Day. And we became friends and he went off to be the CEO of Office Depot. And so he had a real successful career. So I think of him and the friendship we had over the years. And but again, you know, I accomplished a lot on the football field. But I think one of the greatest things that I ever one of the best awards I got was the being an All-American academic, All-American. That was kind of special. I also read you turned down a Rhodes scholarship. I did. What was going through your mind? How did you make that decision? Well, I was going to get I get drafted football. And that's just where I was going to go. The Rhodes Scholar, I didn't really realize how I guess what's the word? Distinguished. Yeah, that was. And I guess I found out afterwards that I played 12 years.  I guess it was still been available for me to go. But I never even thought about it. I was 36 years old when I was thought I had learned about all I needed to learn from that point on. But yeah, that's that was an honor. And but if you somebody saw to use it, I'm sure. Yeah. So I guess in your first round pick in the NFL Draft. Yeah, I guess you go with that. Yeah. So, Don, how do you think that pretty prepared you for a life after college football? Well, I think I would talk about two things. Number one, being on a championship football team. Probably that prepared me more for business than anything. Even more than my educational work. How's that? Well, I mean, you, the level of commitment, the preparation, the teamwork, all of those things are inherent to running a successful company, knowing how to pull people together, develop the right strategy, not give up. As an entrepreneur, you can't give up. All of that gave me a foundation that was really important. And then the pharmacy school and to this day, it's still top five. I think they instilled such a professionalism in me, an ethical commitment, because I've run a couple of pharmaceutical companies and the ethics has always been there. And then the commitment to patient care. So with those two, you know, I feel so committed to doing whatever I can to support Purdue, because they gave me the foundation for me to build a career off of, which has been great. Sure. Mike, what would you say about your NFL experience? What was that like? Well, it was different from Purdue. First of all, really, let me think about that one in a second. But I went to Cleveland in 1970 and for me to get to Cleveland and first round pick, they had to trade up to get that pick. They traded Paul Warfield. People, Paul Warfield was an all pro. He was from Warren, Ohio. He went to Ohio State. I mean, he was just the icon. And so they traded Paul to get me, as I said. And I mean, I walked into a really hornet snest from many in many ways. The expectations were really elevated. But he used to walk in professional football and deliver. And so I had to win back a lot of the fans and trust me, a lot of the players since Paul was sold. Popular. And he was a great football player. I didn't get the warmest reception.  So that was a challenge. Right. I had never been booed in my life at Purdue. And they would boo you. Not at Purdue. No, in Ohio, they would. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was how many games in a row until you won over the trust and the. Oh, I mean, it wasn't every game. I mean, they expected a lot. Cleveland, the fans were just phenomenal fans. But they they wanted they just expected to win. And it didn't always go that way. Sure. Did I ever get used to that? I really does motivate you, you know, you say, well, boo me now. And then, you know, at the end of the game, we'll see where you're at. So but that that was an adjustment. I had never had you ever been booed before. I mean, I never played in a football. No, I know. I mean, you've never been booed. Yeah. So I mean, it was like, what is this? But that's one reason it was different. I can't say, you know, it was football. I enjoyed it. I did the very best. I would prepare.  We have some great years at Cleveland. But it just I don't want to get into the great details of my career there. But, you know, I ran its course there in seven years. And I said, you know, it's time for me maybe to have a change of scenery, which I thought maybe it would be good for Cleveland and me. And so I got traded to Chicago and played five years there.  Professional football is not what everyone thinks it is. I think it's a very glamorous position. They would be the envy of everyone else. I can I can tell you that it's it's not that way. It's very, very pressure-filled, it's hard work. So it's funny, too, because this this was popped into my mind when I retired and I did it on my own because I just had lost the passion for it. And you always get that question, you hear, do you miss it? It's like, do you miss it? And somebody asked me that. I said, you know, I was as happy or happier the day I retired than the day I first got drafted. And it's like, he looked at me and said, how can that be? You know, it's like, you don't understand professional football and the pressure that we, you know, we are under particularly a quarterback.  So how did you overcome those challenges and get your your mind straight when you're walking into those games? Well, you just focus.  I mean, we never went into a game in Purdue thinking we were going to lose. That that just that thought Jack and still that. Yeah, I'm not maybe you're going to win it.  So we were prepared. And as as quarterbacks, we never liked surprises. Sure. I mean, we always knew what the defensive was going to do. And if they made this adjustment, we were going to do that. So it's not we weren't going to be caught off guard. I don't think we ever were caught off guard. No, we were very well. Yeah. So I guess I'm kind of getting off track, but you have to prepare. You know, so you focus on that. When you get into the game, I blocked out everything, the fans and all that. I really did. You have to. Yeah. So that's that's my story. I kind of got off track. We love going off track. Yeah. So you are both here for the President's Council weekend. Yeah. You know, like I said, you guys have been friends for over 50 years. What does it mean to still be involved in this Purdue community, the way that you both are? Well, I think because Purdue has meant so much to me, I want to see it continue to be very successful. I want to see the football program nine and four is not bad. It's pretty damn good. Yeah, I want to see it continue to grow. And the reason is students like to go to a university that have successful athletic programs like our basketball team, they share. So I think it adds so much to the spirit and and also the recruitment of students and to the pride of being part of that kind of an organization. So for me, being part of a championship team and come back and see another championship team, it feels really, really good. It's hardly described the feeling, but it feels it makes you feel proud. Absolutely. Well, get on to that. What's interesting when I've come back to these events is that they always have another player from another generation. They had Dustin or yesterday, Dustin Keller here in his story. And before that, there was a couple of other guys that you could sense that they got that they had the same experience that we did and the impact that it had on their lives. And so I just see it carrying down from the days we were here before us. I'm sure it was the same and it continues to go on. What drives that? I don't know. They're just something special here that I don't know if you can describe it, but you certainly can feel it. And when you get back with the Purdue family, you you feel good and you walk away feeling better, you know. And you guys mentioned the football record. Are you still following the program closely with Coach Brown? Sure, absolutely. I think this was a breakthrough year, transformational year. And the offense has always been absolutely great. So we're hopeful that he'll continue this this year with next year and even better. So I think he's doing a great job. Well, I agree with the hawk. That's just that's his name. Why was that a nickname? Well, we're not going to talk about that. No, we yeah, well, I guess everybody probably doesn't know. But his nickname was the hawk. I was the flip. There's stories behind that.  Absolutely. It's always got to be that way. I agree with Don that this was a breakthrough year for Purdue. A couple of years ago, we beat Ohio State at Rossade, and that was like the turning point for the program. And, you know, we hit some bumps in the road after that. And but we had high expectations as fans. I see it back now. I think we come back and turn the corner. But, you know, that's last year. You have to build on that. And there's everything's changed. You know, you've got new players. You've got now we have four new coaches for the next season. It's just there's moving parts. You try to build off what you've done last year. But there's no guarantees for next year. But we're very optimistic.  Well, we go back normally for homecoming. OK. And probably the highlight of that isn't so much a game at seeing my teammates. Because when you go through playing ball with someone, no matter it's 55 years ago, there's a bond that you make that's nothing like nothing else and a friendship. And because you know them down inside, they know you. They know what you stand for. And it's so much fun to do that fellowship again. So, yeah, we do go back. We go back for homecoming, typically. Yeah, I still remember riding the bus in to Ross A. When we were playing home and you'd see all this tailgate going on each other, I want to get into that. I want to give it to you. How are we going to do that? I know. And we've caught up, I think. So we're I really enjoy that part of it, too. I mean, when I think about Purdue, I think about it being a rock. It's a rock and, you know, a big, big rock that stands for so many great things and you can't move it because it's there and it goes so deep. The roots are so deep and to all the students that went there that have made something out of themselves and a lot of successful people from Purdue. And it gives people the foundation to be able to do whatever you want to do. You know, and the student athletes, I would talk to them and say, hey, education, education, education. Right? Right, because football eventually ends, right? Yeah, for me it did. Well, me, too. For him, too. You're not still playing? No, he's out. He can't go deep anymore. So what would you say to students and maybe even particularly, you know, the football team members right now as young students? What would advice would you guys give them? I would say 150 percent on the field, 150 percent in class. And they're both equally important and because there's such a small number that make it into the pros, you want to be able to leverage the educational opportunity and Purdue is such a great and it keeps going up in the rankings like the pharmacy schools top five, Cranhurts improved. So that's I think the message I would give give it 150 percent and make friends because when you graduate, your ability to network because my career, networking has been the most important thing to be able to call somebody up and say, hey, what about this? So network, make friends, excel in academics. And if you're on the team, 150 percent. Well, I agree with Don. But the mindset of the athletes today are different, especially, you know, coming in because they all have ambitions. They're all going to play professional football. I mean, that's just what they would think, but it's not going to happen. And so you do have to prepare. He said 150 percent on both the field. And it's absolutely true. I don't even say I would advise them to. Give maybe this doesn't sound right, but to give more to the academic side. I did because I didn't have any idea I was going to get a professional football. These the odds are so stacked against you. But they they think that they are. And I think they have a lot of disappointing players that they're not going to make it. But there's something about Purdue that you really gravitate to the education and the academics. And I think that's really was vital for your success outside of Purdue. I want to go back because I just find it so interesting that you didn't think you were going to play in the NFL and you had 12 seasons in the NFL. What was that moment like when you were like, hey, maybe I do have a shot at this? Well, it didn't happen to my senior year. I really didn't. I came from Clemence, Indiana. It was a basketball state. It was a basketball school. The best season we ever had was my senior year, only seven and three. And so, I mean, I played both offense and defense. I really didn't. I was a good quarterback. I wasn't a great quarterback. I was a good athlete and I was willing to learn. And of course, Purdue was going on the tradition that Purdue had in playing quarterback. It was like, I agree with Don.  So I didn't know how good I was going to be. And I didn't really find out until maybe my senior year. You know, did I have a future in the NFL? It just happened and developed that way. So that's what happened. So I can tell that your coach means a lot to you both. What would you say the number one lesson or or thing that he instilled in you both was? We were playing Northwestern. This is a quick story. But I think it's so relevant because it says who Jack Malikoff was. Score is 42-6. I was a backup. I wanted to be the starter, right? Everybody does. So coach says, hey, Donny, go in. He called me Donny. Go in now.  So I'm thinking 42-7, no big deal. So I'm coming off the field on like the 30-yard line. And I see Jack running down the sideline. He had his London Fog coat on in his hat and always dressed really nice. He grabs me and used a few explicit, I'm not going to say what they were. And he grabbed me and he says, look, if you ever give up your own personal pride, no matter what the score is, you can never do that. So most coaches would have just said, oh, no big deal. You go off the field, they patch on the back. But Jack cared about me. I got angry, by the way, when he did that because I felt bad. But what he did for me, he did it because he cared about me. And that's the way he treated the players. He was tough as nails, but everybody knew that he cared about you. And that created such a spirit within the organization. So that's that's kind of the story I remember about Jack. Yeah, and I remember that too. And I thought, oh, gee, you know, I felt so bad for Don. After that happened is like he just trying to be a quarterback.  And the message got the message again. He actually said to me, if you ever do that again, you won't play ping pong for me. Yeah, right. So I have that message, a lot in clear, but it's about personal pride. Yeah, right. And always expect the most from yourself, not the least. And so he was an amazing coach. Part of all these little stories are why he was such a great coach. So we talked about leadership a little bit. What do you think Mitch Daniels has has done when it comes to leadership at Purdue University? I think he's been absolutely phenomenal. I know it's been 10 years holding tuition flat. I think his creative program on how to deal with student loans is transformative and more and more universities to look at it based on your income and how you modulate what you pay. Everybody thinks he's such a strong leader. I we're very fortunate to have him. I thought he would have been a great presidential candidate when he was governor of Indiana. So I think we're very, very fortunate to have him. I agree. I mean, he's there'll be a time where he's going to step down. He's going to be very difficult to replace. But he's made his impact here and we're very, very fortunate to have had him as president and still have him right now. But I mean, there'll be a day when he's going to do something different. What is the Purdue community and that that Boilermaker spirit? If you had to summarize, what does that mean to you both? You know, that's that's a nice question. I don't think that was on the list. But what does it mean as well? Well, I can tell you when you come back to to college and you stop at the chocolate shop because we know her show and Mary quite well. We used to know when it was Dirty Harry's, by the way. Oh, OK. And you go and have a beer and it's the day before game and the students are there and the vitality and the enthusiasm. And it's contagious. It just fills you up with spirit. And and I love to see that. Now, this year with the winning team, it was a lot better than it's been. So I think it's it's it's inspirational. It makes you feel good, makes you feel proud of being part of Purdue again. And when you see when we see our teammates, it's a renewal, a renewal of friendship. Yeah, unfortunately, there's few of us left. Yeah, I mean, every year, we lost we lost a great one. Leroy really did. Yeah. Yeah, well, tell us about Leroy and what it was like, you know, with him as as your teammate. Well, Leroy instead of talking about him as maybe the goat, right? I'd rather talk about him as a man as a person, because his value system was impeccable. He was inspirational to everybody he talked to. And one of the speeches yesterday just told it all. It said Leroy was kind of person no matter how bad you were feeling. When you talk to him and you left, you felt good. And he was a Christian, very religious, spiritual guy. He touched so many people like to. Yeah, I just yesterday, they did that video of Leroy at the brunch. And there was one picture of Leroy, myself, Neil Armstrong, and I think it was Gene Cern. This was after the game, Texas A&M. We won 24 to 20. It was my first game was, you know, college. And, you know, the thing I think back there I am shaking the hands with the first band that, you know, landed on the moon. I mean, really. And it just, I don't know, that that was a real special moment for me. And I had completely forgot about it, but it was I visualized it again. And I was like, wow, you know, this was that was a special photo. But Leroy was, besides everything Don said about Leroy is, you know, is accurate. You felt good about him. The fact that he wasn't there yesterday. I felt it. And I felt a hole there. Yeah, yeah. But a part of Key's success. A lot of people don't know this. Most quarterbacks don't like to block too much. When we ran that Leroy, give the ball to Leroy Toss and he'd let it. He was like a pulling guard. So he blocked. I mean, he was part of the formula for Leroy's success. And he really went around the corner and cleaned it out. Yeah. You want to hear a story about that, how that happened? They didn't tell me, well, they didn't tell either one of us.  Well, it was in, I think it was in one of our spring practices. I was in, did the toss sweep to Leroy.  Way to go, Mike.  That was that was how we were described. Way to go 15, you know, and I thought, OK, then I go back to the huddle and here's, here's the, here's the hog. He says, way to go, Flip. I said, oh, thanks a lot. I thought he was giving me kudos for doing this.  He said, they're going to expect me to do that. Yeah, exactly. I was not the best blocking quarterback. Yeah, but it just was part of it, you know, I enjoy doing it. Nobody would ask you to do that today as a quarterback. It just like, but again, I play defense and it wasn't anything for me to you know, get in the way of somebody block them. It was kind of fun. Did Leroy have a special nickname like you two had? Not really, you know, Leroy was Leroy. OK. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. When you said Leroy, you knew who you were talking about. Yeah. So when you see your teammates back here back at homecoming, do you guys reminisce and share the story? The stories keep getting better. And then the same stories get better.  They get definitely. But oh, yeah, that's why we'd love to see each other, because oh, there's so many stories about Coach Malikov. We had a very, very distinguished team physician named Dot Combs. There's a lot of stories about him and then a lot of stories about the players. Yeah. And it's so much fun to reminisce. And that's why it's great to come back for homecoming. Yeah, there's a lot of stories you forgot about. And somebody jogs your messages. You don't want to remember. Yeah, you block them out. Yeah. Did any of your family members go to Purdue after you guys left? No? Well, that would have been part of my story. I said earlier, I had a IU alum of dentists on my right. And then there was a Purdue guy on. Well, my stepfather was a Purdue graduate. So not that it tipped the scales, but it certainly had had an influence on my decision. And it's funny, too, because after games, Win or lose, my stepfather would come over. They went to all the home games and most of the ones on the road. And we won more than we lost. He'd always shake my hand. And he'd always have a $20 bill. I think it was $100 bill. I don't think it was $100, but it was a $20 bill.  So, but he, for some reason, he'd always, he'd always know I'd have a little bit of cash on me. It was like, where'd you get that?  But you'd have to order the pizza that night. Yeah, he's buying. No, what has Purdue meant to you both and how has it impacted your lives? How do you describe that one? Well, I don't know. I think I did talk about the foundation, you know, championship team and pharmacy school. And I've been able to springboard those leverage that and been a successful entrepreneur in healthcare. And importantly, work on therapies and technology that really helps promote patient care.  Yeah. I mean, so that basis has given me that skill set to be able to go out and make that happen. And what does it mean to you that you have such like a meaningful career path that you're actually impacting others, other people's lives? Well, it's, I kind of like to look at it this way because I've started 12 companies in health care and I'm still on boards and stuff. So I still invest in private companies, but I only get involved in projects where I can put money in my pocket and put something in my heart. Like I'm working on a drug for autism right now. And these kids, Fragile X in particular, they're the most extreme case of autism and there's no therapies to treat them. And we have two that we're working on. So for me to be able to be involved in that, even if I didn't make any money, if I could help these kids, you know, that that would fill me up inside. So I've been blessed. I've been very fortunate. And he's really good at what he does. And he works too hard. He's down here in Florida now. He and I have always bass fished together on Lake Okeechobee. But since he's been down here, we haven't gotten to the legal. So we're going to we're going to make that change pretty soon here. I mean, a cure for prostate cancer would be pretty good. Yeah, I mean, yeah, the things that you've been doing is incredible. Well, thank you so much. Appreciate that. Is there anything else that you want to share with the listeners, the loyal football fans? I would say hell, Purdue. But yeah, I mean, what what can you say? Our experience at Purdue, both of us, it's hard to describe the results. What makes Purdue special? I think it attracts the people with a lot of character and the good people. But when they walk away, they're they're much better. They're more developed. They're enthusiastic to, you know, attack a career here and there. This guy's done phenomenal. It's funny because he he starts talking to to to me about the projects that he's doing. And he gets into the scientific mode and he starts describing things to me like like he's I think he's picking in tongues as far as I consider it. But it's amazing. I said, is that you walk? He said, he's done well. I'm proud of him. Well, thank you. You have to. I'm proud of you. I used to go to the locker room after his game sometimes and always felt so proud of him. Yeah, did you go to any?  Well, I wanted to get in fights when I heard the booze. Yeah, but but I used to go in a locker room after the game and met Peyton and yeah, I was so proud of him.  And I would go to some of the games with his wife. Carol would go with me. And it was an exciting, exciting thing to do. Absolutely. Supporting your friend. Yeah. You guys both support each other, I can tell. Well, what we did was before the season started, we were going on a fishing trip and we'd spend the whole week in the boat and we'd be talking about what are the things that are going to be really be important for you to make this team what it can be. And we would talk about that and we talk about he's a strong leader. I mean, Mike's a leader. He was a leader through example. He was in a big word guy. But on the field, he'd led by example, like leading Leroy Keys around the end and blocking three people, you know. So we would do that every year before the season. And one year he was negotiating a contract. So we talked about how you're going to get the deal done. You know, one of those things. So, yeah, we've kept this great friendship. He's my best friend. And we love each other.   I don't know if I'm allowed to say it. One of my favorite interviews. Well, thank you. You have been an amazing interviewer. Well, thank you. Because you made us feel very comfortable and relaxed. And hopefully you got the story. I got some stories. I got some tears well enough. I got some emotions. I almost lost it there when I thought about Jack walking in the locker room. I've forgotten about that one. Yeah. Yeah. But his love for the players, that's why he got everything out of everybody. Because everybody knew how much he loved you. Well, thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you. We really enjoyed it. Thank you.


All right. How's everyone? Good. This is our last talk for the day and This is a great word camp. I enjoyed it thoroughly But we have a great session coming up with Nyon Kim. Nyon Kim is a senior software engineer at Penske Media Corporation Where she works on leading it to entertainment publications such as variety billboard in the Hollywood Republic reporter Previously a senior lecturer at University of Southern, California Nyon has taught web development To hundreds of students from elementary school age to adult learners. She's passionate about helping newcomers Break into and thrive in tech careers Her session today is empowering Afghan women through coding Challenges and opportunities. Please give a very warm welcome to Nyon Kim So I'll just hold the mic like this. Hi, everybody. Welcome. Thank you so much for Coming to my talk. I know it's the very last one So I know a lot of your energy levels are pretty low and so thank you so much for coming by I really expected like two people to show up like my husband and my boss and like that's it But thank you Thank you everyone for joining me. I'm so excited to talk about Afghanistan woman Afghan woman today. So again again as Caleb introduced nice to meet you. My name is Nyon It's pronounced like nylon without the L. I know it's kind of a weird spelling But anyway, that's that's my name. I currently work as a senior software engineer at PMC Really really great company to work for by the way Caleb talked about them earlier this morning If you're ever interested, please talk to me about PMC as well So many good. I have so many things I could share about Not too long ago. I was in the academia world. I was a professor At the University of Southern California USC But I decided to go back to industry. So I'm an industry working in the industry right now However I'm not here to talk about any of those things today. I am talk today. I'm here to talk about Afghanistan Specifically a program up a coding program. I got to work with women in Afghanistan I wanted to share to you today some lessons we learned And maybe even get some feedback from there's a lot of great people talking about teaching WordPress and the community here So love to hear your input And also, I hope that by sharing what we did if you ever are in you find yourself needing to teach Non-American students WordPress or coding in general. I'm hoping that this can help you spark some ideas as well So that's that's kind of what my goal is for today For the safety of the students in this talk, I'm gonna be kind of vague I'm purposely not going to be mentioning any individual names or Organizations But there's a lot of people involved in this actually. I'm just one person out of many people involved in this amazing project But I'm gonna be a little vague So if you're like if you put however, if you want to talk to me privately I Will spill all the beans and tell you what's who's doing what and what are what we're doing? so I'm very happy to talk about all that and Also, I gotta tell you I'm not an expert in Afghanistan. I'm not a politician not a journalist, you know, so Please don't come at me with all of your politics and what you think about the current situation there However, I do want to go over Just before I just jump into my talk just some really briefly about what is going on in Afghanistan and why I Care and why this is important to me. Just really really real quick Again, not it. I'm not a politician. I'm not a historian, but here are just some really quick facts So for about the last four decades, Afghanistan has faced a lot of civil wars and coups More most recently in 1973 the monarchy was overthrown and Then in 1978 a Communist Party led another coup that overthrew that government and then and then the USSR invaded Afghanistan in 1979 Leading to even more conflict and chaos So among there's there's been so so many civil wars famine droughts going on in this country for a minute for a long long time until nine around 1995 1996 the Taliban is as you've heard of in the news they took over Osama bin Laden became the leader and they started They started imposing very very extreme Islamic laws such as women cannot Go to school when women cannot go to work women have to be fully clothed They can't go out without a male escort a lot of human rights overall issues also have risen as well There's public executions. Just a lot of I won't go there but a lot of a lot of things happened and then as everyone is Aware of 9-11 happened and that was heartbreaking and the Taliban was involved was Involved in this and the United States then invaded Afghanistan in 2001 and since 2001 to 2021 the US has been The US has been in charge of government They've started steadily bringing back more and more human and women rights And there was a slow steady progression of more women going back to school universities getting jobs however as sadly as you've seen in the news in 20 August 2021 US troops left and It was a tragic day for the Afghanistan Afghan people This was the airport where the US troops were leaving and all the Afghan people were trying to leave with them It was such a heartbreaking news that we saw in on the news since then to Taliban Rose quickly took over again and they decide this Although they originally promised they were going to be bringing back women rights and all these things they slowly they totally reneged on their promises and As of right now and this is these are a lot of recent events as of right now women cannot go to school after Middle school so basic in our and in the United States standards. They can't go to high school. They can't go to college They can't hold jobs. They can't even teach Most of the women that we know are pretty much stuck at home. They're not allowed to go outside It's it's not a I can't believe that in 2023 These things are happening It's it's it's I think most of us already heard of all this on news and it's so heartbreaking to me that Girls can't go to school like that is such a fundamental thing like Anyway, my sister always tells me and teases me. She always makes fun of me. She says, you know, all you can do is All you know how to do is learn how to you only know how to code You don't know you don't cook you like you don't drive.  She's like, man, like all you do is look at your computer all day You're always coding like well, guess what my Because of my coding skills, I found that I could actually help these women thanks to thanks to coding Which is all I know how to do So what happened was again gonna be a little vague here I I got some phone calls and About it was a very random phone call and they were working with these young women in Afghanistan who really want to They want to do something while they're home. They wanted to Whatever it was they want to get some kind of education so and one thing that kind of came up was Maybe we can teach these girls how to code because that's something they could do at home They could even find remote jobs. They could support themselves They could get potentially some income and these are and you know, you're just if they're home anyway And you're just on the internet. What is the Taliban gonna do about that? You know, you're like they're just on the on the internet, right? And there's so many in this and then there's so many more opportunities now so with coding technologies, so that's what they're kind of talking about and Eventually that came to me and they asked me are you like are there some good ideas we can do with these women? Can we do some kind of some kind of coding program some kind of you know something with these women? So we said, okay, let's try it Let's let's try and I see what happens So this is this this is this ended up becoming our plan and I gotta tell you I again don't know very much about Afghanistan I don't know about their culture or anything like that, but we got some cultural cultural training We talked about what's important to the girls and and we did find out they speak English I that was my number one question. I was like, did they even speak English? Like they have to read code is code is in English, right? So so we after a lot of discussions we came up with a very just we just want a trial pilot course And this is kind of what we came up with we did a 12 week course six weeks of just HTML CSS Just so that they can Just understand some basics and learn that's one thing I love about HTML CSS is it's very visual too So I do just start typing things and and things come up So it's a very quick, you know like very quick feedback And then they also start learning all these weird punctuation marks that they've never written before You know all those greater-than-signs less-than-signs periods like and they start to learn about syntax and What debugging means so we thought that was a good intro to start with and then we actually moved on to Python six Because Python and the reason we chose Python was because Python is also very intro friendly language It's very easy to get started It it's Indentations and stuff is all very it teaches you up front how to be good with your indentation and things like that and Python also opens up more doors even if the students don't want to do web development if they wanted to do Actually Python you could do web development back in as well It opens up some doors to analytics and you know machine learning and all that as well So we just thought it would be a good kind of pair And then we did we did do virtual live meetings Online so no we we didn't go to Afghanistan that would have been very scary. I don't think I'm that brave yet I don't know But so it was all all virtual three times a week We also had office hours outside of the regular class We have labs we had assignments basically a full university kind of type course, but crammed into 12 weeks and We also had ta's that were volunteered they help them outside We had ta's on site as well that helped the students and we had about 20 students So it's we actually we had like 50 students sign up, but we we Are actually we had some we had a lot of interest, but we were this is our pilot We just wanted to keep it small. So we kept it at about 20 consistent 20 consistent students and I'm very very big from I've been teaching web development for a long time And I'm very very big on very interactive stuff. So we do do a lot of interactive Learning where we were going to use we decided to use an online editor to first start out with so this is It's kind of like code pen or JS fiddle if you've seen one of those so we use this program to do a lot of To so there students didn't have to install VS code or anything We just straight up use the online editors just to get started and With online editors like this you just type in the code and it shows up right away So the students get an immediate feedback and they're not so afraid of like their code breaking too easily and things like that And that's that's a mantu is actually one of a favorite street food in Afghanistan The students told me about so we made like a little website about that. That was a little fun So that was kind of the idea going we were gonna make it very hands-on very interactive Live we did a lot of we're gonna do live sessions Office hours we had a number of staff getting heavily involved in in this so How'd it go? The first day day one honestly it went really bad Won't kind of not gonna lie I mean, I None of us knew what what to expect a lot of it honestly looks something like this like I was like saying like how are I like hi everybody? How are you? You know what? What I just do like an icebreaker. I was like, you know, what is your like favorite food or what is your favorite TV show or something? like that I think I asked them and I would get like no response and like it was just dead silence and I really thought something was wrong with my end and like I was like, oh, maybe they don't understand or maybe my internet's bad and and Yeah, it was first thing was so so bad. It was so awkward We quickly found out That it is actually they're in a connection. They're in a connection. I knew it wasn't gonna be great going in but they're in a connection was less than one MBPS and The online video Platforms even though they are pretty good at compressing and things like that that was still too slow for them So there was this like three second delay.  They will respond they heard me and they would respond and it'll take probably another two seconds for their response to come back to me So It was very awkward. So what we made some changes right away We decided, you know what? I don't need to see everybody's faces. They don't need to see my face We're gonna save every kilobyte. We can so we turned off all the videos Only they only saw my screen share it does seem to improve a lot. I Didn't let nobody talk only me. I talked at least audio-wise And I did not put it in here, but the students are very active in the chat in the chat So we used as I encourage them to use the chat a lot more So don't if you have questions. Let's not waste time trying audio. Just put it in the chat And then a kind of a big change was instead of me live Talking the whole time and because the students have a hard time listening. I decided to pre-record a lot of videos And the pre-recording would cover some major concepts And I found that for some reason YouTube works really well in Afghanistan much better than just normal internet So they watching a video on YouTube was much better than watching. I don't know like a Vimeo video or something like that So I uploaded on YouTube. So and I made them promise me you have to watch these videos before you come to class And they were all over it. They loved it And so they start so they would watch a pre-recorded video About the topic before coming to class and then in class we did a we did just I just do a lot of review and more examples In the education world we call this like a flip classroom model Which I have a lot of opinions on actually I'm not a big fan of flip model But it actually worked for these girls because of the internet issues and all that so it actually worked really well And we did a lot more again more examples more show more tell we I Asked the students a lot of questions about their culture like the previous slide. I showed you I talked I was like, what's your favorite food? Let's make a website out of your favorite food like what kind of what kind of TV shows do you watch? They watch actually a lot of Indian stuff. I didn't know that so we watch like Bollywood so we like made some Bollywood examples and and To keep them engaged some reason the chat like I said they love chatting. They're so chatty. I love it So we would do after I covered a major concept Instead of just kind of moving on I re-typed it really fast in the chat like a summarize it really fast in the chat pasted in the chat and then and Just to recap what we just talked about All all good things and and last bullet like I said more show and more less tell just more demonstration Rather than me just talking ended up being being really great some observations. Oh my goodness you guys these are the best students I've ever had I taught a lot of American college students and after dealing with a pandemic and stuff. I was really burnt out honestly of teaching Students but these students were the more that some of the most motivated most appreciated students They told me they love me like every day Nobody tells me that like every not even you know not even my family tells me they love me every day like this But they would be like we love you and like, you know all these like this is just one snip But I wanted to show you guys all of everything, but I can't so we love you and like we're so grateful and and they Were so attentive very chatty in the chat. They love you. They're so good at using emojis It's it's not just you know Gen Z students in America like they were there they love using emojis They're hilarious. Okay, they're hilarious. They They're so funny. We were talking about like holidays coming up. I was like, oh, you know in America We have like President's Day coming up or something, you know What what kind of holidays do you have in Africa? What are some of your favorite holidays in Afghanistan and? and one student says oh every day is a holiday for us because we can't go to school or work and I was like Right, I was like, I didn't know how to respond to that But all the other students they were like all these cry laugh emojis in the chat and they were having a blast And they're like, yeah, we can't every day is a holiday for us. And like, yeah, we can't go we can't go outside and like so anyway, so again Very hilarious and they actually really I mean they really want to get to know They won't really wanted to get to know me and they knew I they they found that I was Korean So they were like, oh like we love kimchi too and like I don't it was it's I was like, yeah Okay, like and and oh we love K-pop like, you know BTS, you know something like that And it was great and the students just I could like they're so Their perspective on life really changed. They're saying how well, I feel like this is something like I have hope outside You know, this is something I can actually do and this there's a lot of opportunities outside of just I'm not locked into my the country I live in I can do more outside. So that look there's Their confidence their their hope just boosted which was great Now I just to finish up here I just want to show you and they made some amazing final projects out for our final projects They have to make a website from scratch They could pick the topic they want and they I told they can only use HTML CSS from scratch Because it is a coding class. So no WordPress or anything just yet just everything from scratch and not even bootstrap nothing just everything raw and They did such a beautiful job. I I'm just gonna flip through some of these And they have so many great interests that they have and they even one of them made their own like web developer portfolio amazing amazing job We got some great feedback as well We had students pretty much saying they a lot of one to ten 64% Love this out rated as a 10 and they want to recommend it blah blah They want to continue learning more. That's why we asked them if we had a second level Would you want to learn more? They most people most students said yes, and we got a lot I'm not gonna read all these to you, but we got a lot of really good Testimonials as well like a lot of students saying I didn't know what to expect I thought it was gonna be too hard, but it was actually really fun. I really loved making websites. I loved learning Python and I was Really great feedback. So some next steps some next steps that we want to do our Internet connection is huge. We're partnering with some organizations to get some better internet access for them. Internet is expensive over there, so Ways to provide more free and accessible internet is huge We also want to look into What's gonna be next and am I what I really want to do is even teach them a little bit of JavaScript PHP and then we want to go into WordPress and Met some fantastic people here today about talking about WordPress curriculum and stuff like that So I'm really looking forward to what you know, what are some best practices to teach WordPress? We're also thinking the third bullet there is Is there a path for maybe students to even learn data analytics because that's also another big growing area data science that kind of thing I'm not a data expert though. So I have no idea what to do with that But if any of you happen to know anything about data, please I'm happy to talk to you Also, I will lastly I want to get the students involved into a lot of the dev communities out here like WordPress meet-ups that could be online. I the students are very like they love meeting people They love they're very good at talking and engaging. So I think that'd be great great fit for them So as I close This is these are when you see Afghanistan in the news We always see like bombs and war going on But I learned through this program the Afghanistan is such a beautiful beautiful country. These are just some High-level drone shots of the country there. It's beautiful. They have such they're such a historic Land and they're very family-oriented very close knit. They have such a vibrant kind of culture and just wanted to share just a little bit of this because it's I Think we forget when all this chaos is going on we forget about the people Like that they're actually human beings most besides the you know the some of the really extreme crazy people there And on average, they're just everyday people that want to work. They want to they have families to take care of They have kids they're thinking about marriage. You know, they're they and they just want to live and they just want to Go to their ordinary life What and what saddens me is the most is a lot of these students the students I taught there are most of them about 20 year olds year olds they They did this this is like one of those things as they as growing up They always heard about from their parents like oh back when I was a kid, you know We had all this chaos and we couldn't go to school But they never actually all these 20 year olds They never lived that kind of life before when they were born the US was already Took over Afghanistan so they didn't have these kind of restrictions literally overnight They're they kicked out of school kicked out of work. So these students are so like what just happened I never like this is stuff. I heard from my grandparents and my parents, but now I'm living this so anyway, so um, yeah, I Thank you for letting me talk today everybody. Thank you for letting me share Thank you word camp on Claire for inviting me and letting me talk talk you're off and Thank you PMC My employer for letting me come and talk as well really think great job to our Tech staff back there Glenn and Amanda. I think yeah, I see them. They're awesome. I've never like this is cool I've never like never experiences kind of support. So that's that's awesome. So thank you everyone I have some contact info here. Feel free to reach out to me privately if you're interested at all and talking more about it I'm happy to talk to you offline about with more information Any any questions You mentioned keeping things vague. Yeah girls self educating and like working from home. What kind of risks are they taking? So that's a very good question. I also asked the same thing but so it It's more common in the bigger cities But it's I the Taliban have literally in some of the big the Capital of couple of the capital of Afghanistan's couple and they were the Taliban will literally march into the University with you know their machine guns and all that stuff and kick the girls out and And they regularly patrol the market plays the common areas to make sure any women are escorted with men They I've heard that these they randomly do do even house checks. They visit houses But I heard that's a little bit less common now, but definitely in the more public Places they do there's regular patrols that like just they're keeping What do you call it? They're just making they're just always patrolling and making sure things are things are going to the way They want it. So if they're found working from home, will they get in trouble with that? so They might yeah, I think so So that's why I want to be really really careful the girls keep telling me I don't know how much to believe them right there Like oh, no, they're not like you know Tell us not that like sophisticated to know what we're really doing and so they and then I do have other Government officials telling me the similar thing, but we always want to be a little bit more on the cautious side. So Yeah, yeah, I think there is a risk. Maybe not a humongous risk maybe if the friends start telling like Telling the people it might be a bigger problem, but So far they see they say it's an assumable risk that they want to do they want to learn so Yeah Thank you. I will connect with this working. I will connect with you for sure about Meetups and where did you mean your students those Afghan ladies to join the meetups? Yeah, they're so willing we had some like As long as it's online and I'm zone kind of works out They would love to join. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you You just mentioned the time zone you like you're in California and they're in Afghanistan. Yes, that that's a long time How did that work out? I? Woke up very early Before work. I have we had scrum at 9 30. So I would work. I will teach them 7 30 9 30 I jumped on scrum and 9 30 you guys didn't know So it'd be like 7 30 your time and like Our time was like 8 p.m. There are times and they prefer the night evening times when the internet bandwidth is all Not a lot more and less. It's less a little bit more discreet at night. They prefer the night time. Yeah Any other questions? Does the equipment to the girls get donated or do they have access to this type of equipment to Yeah, yeah, great question. So for this pilot at least we did say that you have to have some kind of laptop that could run the video conferencing and chrome and You know, luckily with web development, they don't need to have like a really fancy machine So most most of the students like 99 of them use when like a windows 7 machine actually Which is fine for our very basic uses. So we did Target those students It does it does turn out that most families at least have some Access to a laptop. So luckily the hard part was actually its internet rather than the Computer itself. Yeah Thank you You said the first day was really rough How long did it take for them to really get in a groove with you and like things start really? Yeah, great question. I think I think maybe I think it was like After I kind of figured out how the way they talk and things like that Maybe he actually was like maybe a third or fourth day It got much better and then I think I released the pre-recorded videos the second week and that really brought like That made an overnight difference. So the second week was like, yeah, yeah, any other questions? Nayan, thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you


Hi, my name is Leon Roe, currency trader and trading coach at trading 180.com. Welcome to this week's supply and demand for us in gold fundamental and technical Analysis, hope you're doing well and had a great week trading. I Just wanted to say that I will be releasing the recorded Web and I had on the 3rd of November talking about forecasting forex trends that last for months But there was a condition to it. I wasn't really going to release until next year at some point but I thought that because that I'd been getting a lot of Emails basically asking me to release it. I thought all right then. Well, you have to do something for it, right? So for the you know for the regular viewers in the new viewers I Will be releasing the forecasting forex trends that last for months Webinar using fundamental analysis that are recorded on the 3rd of November But definitely have to have at least 25 you percent of YouTube likes likes in comparison to the view So at least just a quarter of you one in four people We've got a like this video and also I've got to have a thousand views as well very very small You know a small channel not asking for much right you can share with your other trading colleagues Watch it a few times. I don't know if you're gonna get multiple likes if you've got multiple channels But yeah, I'll start I'll release it when I get at least a thousand views and at least 25 percent of you like the The channel and so once I get that then I'll release it and by the way You know, it's this is this is really breaking down. This is kind of like a cheat code as I call it Really breaking down the fundamentals in the most simple way to predicts and forecast I guess the You know trends that will last for months and and even years many of you know that I've been you know For example short on the euro dollar for no, you know, nearly 80 months and I continue to go short on the euro dollar Over 80 months nearly two years now, right and that's just through fundamental analysis. So Yeah, if you like guys can complete this challenge Then I will release the views and basically show you the things that I've been looking at and doing and give you an Example on the euro dollar, you know the trend this year and the guys in a discord group, you know I've been taking advantage of that as well as the dollar yen as well and talking about the discord group If you guys want to join a mentorship just Last chance this year will open on Monday the 28th of November and closes Friday the second of December And it's the final opening of 2022. I do like to keep my classes on the smaller side of an open often Mentoring takes a lot. By the way, if you do want to join be prepared to work, you know hard This isn't something that you can learn in like, you know a couple of days. There was a lot to it and Yeah, so the next enrollment after this is gonna be in January, you know early February. I haven't decided yet 2023 so Go to trading 180.com on those dates and become a Basically enroll if you want to enroll if you don't I wish you all the best, of course So getting into this week's fundamental analysis in a week ahead on trading economics.com In the US the most important economic releases include retail sales producer prices and housing data So investors will be keeping an iron earnings report, of course and yeah, I was reading up about the FTX exchange far for bankruptcy crazy Although I do buy crypto. I don't definitely though keep my my money on Exchanges as they say not your keys. Not your crypto, right? Elsewhere in the spotlight will be inflation rates from Japan UK and Canada or and budget statement from the UK as well. That's going to be very important It because it really sets the tone for the UK as we'll get into Also, it will be interesting to follow the ZEW economic sentiment for Germany third quarter GDP growth rates from Japan Of course and industrial production retail sales and fixed investment data from China. So There's some more in-depth Reading to be done Let me just zoom in a little bit if you want to do that again go to trading economics.com and if you click on the First page front page if you see week ahead should be the first Box that has been updated 25 hours ago. So have a read more in-depth Anyways getting on to the technicals as well as some more fundamentals of what happened last week and my thoughts and biases For the week ahead We're starting off from the dollar index and the dollar index is just a measure of dollar strength against the major currencies and we had a sharp sell-off right and this is due to inflation inflation was right so say woes, but in fact The Federal Reserve do want inflation to come down right and inflation expectations and what inflation expectations When they were released basically it meant that the The expectation for interest rate hikes has kind of been paired back right and so but The Wall Street managers right are pushing back on easing inflation hopes so the job of a central bank is to try to get inflation back down to you know the 2% target but You know Wall Street managers are basically saying that the We're going to be living with inflation for longer So euphoria is sweeping every corner of Wall Street in the wake of the latest data that suggests inflation is peaking From a four decade high yet big money managers are in no mood to celebrate betting that the world will have to contend with Elevated prices for years to come and in a game changer for investing strategies of all stripes the JP Morgan Asset management is clinging on to a record allocation in cash In at least one of its strategies while hedge fund solutions team at UBS group AG is staying defensive man group Quants expect the great inflation trade to endure with all signs suggesting price pressures will stay strong for a while Yet, so I think you know the price in the dollar. I'm saying to the guys in the private group I'm still long dollars regardless of what's happening in the short term I mean if you actually just look at you know the year to date You know a pullback Does not you know end the trend for example does not end the trend at all I think the price is just pulling back to bargain levels and I will be looking for you know buying opportunities not necessarily on the dollar index but on the You know dollar dollar crosses right especially like for example the euro and the the pound and so To kind of back that up as well You always want big money with you on your trade So the dollar is still king for strategies looking beyond to the route And so the dollar has not stopped its worst week since the early days of the COVID pandemic But analysts think a long-running stampede for the greenback might not be over just yet So Bloomberg dollar spot index lumped about 3.5 percent this week It's biggest loss since March 2020 investors had been trimming bets on the dollar ahead of Thursday's US inflation data With a down with a slow down in prices leading to it getting pummeled in the indexes worst one-day performance since 2009 and what that does is that that psychologically gets you thinking that you know to most people to kind of short the dollar And again, this is not financial advice. It's just you know my thoughts But what I think is that the market is just pricing in really a 50 basis point Hike rather than a 75 basis point hike, of course, you know There's gonna be a pullback that the the scare of the pullback in terms of you know Is it would it be a gradual one or would it be a sharp one? Obviously, it's been a sharp one But it invokes emotion to for people who don't know any better to now start to want to get short But but smart money if you know, we're right about this trade idea still Are actually, you know buying in you know with with the dollar Buying the dollar as it starts to come down regardless of how sharp it starts to come down And I do believe that the dollar is still the dog with the least fleas right in terms of when you look around on you know, for example economic growth and Monetary policy that the the US is still the best regardless of it, you know looking at the Europe and and the pound for example, so You know again just to continue on, you know, basically traders dive back bets on how much policy tightening They expect the Federal Reserve to implement and that's really the reason why right because they were Pricing in a terminal rate of I think was it 5.25% but now they are maybe just scaling back But the market is just pricing that in but once it prices it in then I think the dollar will now be a buy And I still think it's a buy so a lot of traders say don't you know catch a falling knife But if you understand value or potential value, then you can't right you can catch falling eyes all the time So for me I'm our bias is still to the upside will prices, you know bounce from here. No idea. No idea No one knows, you know, I mean exactly where it's going to bounce and it might not right again We've got to look at price action what it does there the reaction, you know and and so on and so forth But there is a demand zone there and there is also a couple of demand zones just underneath that level So for me, I'm looking at you know price at all these levels Come the market open and seeing how price reacts to that what the market sentiment is etc And I'm looking at this is just buying the dollar for a you know bargain price regardless of what happened You know over the sell-off because eventually value will will come to the fore and You know, this is how you know traders get caught going the wrong side, right? There's a lot of traders going long For example lots of stop losses below levels You know big institutional stop losses. This was known as a bit bit of a short squeeze You know the pain trade The traders are now, you know in a bit of pain because they've been going long not trading with any stop losses And now they're in a bit of pain But eventually they'll get out of their trades or just add in and then I think that the dollar for me is still a buy In over them over the medium to long term at least for the rest of this year unless You know data comes out not supporting that narrative But as long as the data supports the narrative of a strong dollar or a decent dollar Then I will be continue to be a buyer of the dollar anyways So that's a dollar index. Let's move on to the Dollar yen so again pullbacks All around Here we go. Yep. So big pullbacks on the dollar not surprising the next Buyers are around here. I think that the yen is is looking at being a buy at some point soon going into 2023 But again, that's data dependent But if you are, you know short on the dollar yen, then you will need You know, you'd have to wait for pretty much a big pullback up to these areas here So just looking for either a move back up to here if you want to be short on the dollar Or if you want to get long on the dollar then The other 136 is looking quite nice and with you know, the yen gdp coming out Japan Japanese gdp coming out if it disappoints then that in fact this could be a decent buy in fact for the for the dollar so So let's see what happens there Dollar swiss dollar swiss again. Look at that massive sell-off I was saying last week or week before that this technical area up here was was actually a really nice buy Up at the top for the swiss frank if you believed, you know as far as a short That you believe that the swiss frank was a buy against the dollar But yeah, you can see if you took that trade that would have been very nice Looking at where we are now. I think here is going to be the You know a decent buy technically But again, I think there's some levels just below that not really interested in trading this pair I think the swiss national bank is still quite hawkish Especially we were in a risk-off environment as well. You don't really want to you know buy two risk-off currencies But uh, but yeah, I think where we are now any pullbacks into these zones here I think a decent for buying opportunities technically But it just really depends on where you think, you know, the value is But again, it's not really the best pair. I want to see, you know, bigger divergences in terms of monetary policy and fundamentals Dollar cad so again every every pair against the dollar really is pulling back So um and again just to give it perspective look at where we were at the beginning of 2022 Yeah, and where we were of course, you had to expect a pullback, right? Look at that almost parabolic in terms So, you know, you know, we're just getting a getting a decent pullback and the markets are going to find value somewhere Again a pullback into some decent demand zones demand there demand there and demand around here And so again, just looking for any kind of uh long trades at those areas If you're looking for short trades and buying the canadian dollar against the us dollar, then you're looking at these areas Right here um Moving on to the new zealand dollar us dollar new zealand dollar You know grinding hire who've come to quite an interesting Area, I think in terms of potential short trade to buy the us dollar if risk remains more often on Then I think this is a decent area to look for any kind of Short trades in fact this whole zone would be a supply And then you've got an area of supply here hidden supply and then you've got an area there But I think commodity currencies like the australian dollar and the new zealand dollar may benefit from a trade idea I discussed in the group regarding China's zero coveted lift restrictions and so if that starts to come to fruition I do think that the new zealand dollar will be a buy But it's slightly too early to get involved. I think in that trade yet or you know that i'm getting involved in that trade Of course traders can you know get into um any trades they want In terms of you know trade idea, but um i'm waiting for more evidence really to to come out But I think if the china trade um coveted restriction idea does come to um fruition then I think any pullback especially into that 59 area we're going to be a very nice zone um if the dollar starts to find you know some um some more Some value as well as maybe potential more risk off sentiment Then I think this area here is going to be decent for a um for a short trade You also have obviously some uh of your support and resistance uh within that Area there and support resistance is drawn as a zone not necessarily just a line, right? So I think that area there is decent. You also have a bit of uh support and resistance right there So within that wide zone you've got these two areas to look for um short trades And uh pound dollar pound dollar And a pound really is just rallying based off of um dollar weakness and um, let's go to what was the uh charting the Uh, no actually wasn't this one. It was uh, this is it So the uk economy contracted by 0.2 percent in the quarter three putting it on the brink of recession pretty much You need two negative quarters of growth To be classified as a technical recession The uk economy shrank by 0.2 percent in the last quarter putting it on the brink of recession the office of national statistics reports That that gdp fell in july september quarter following a 0.2 rise in eight Is sorry in april to june. Uh, that's less Bad than feared but still shows the uk economy is weakening as the cost of living crisis and rising interest rates hit the economy And uh, yeah, so you know, there was there were some reasons for that and you know The queen's funeral added to september's gdp hit um and further weakness is coming according to ing And a winter recession looks highly likely and um and also as well from the guardian blog uk lags behind other g7 countries So the uk fell behind other major advanced economies in the last quarter So the uk is the only member of the g7 whose economy shrank by july september Although japan is yet to report its third quarter data in contrast, germany France kept expanding the part despite the energy crisis while the us returned to growth.  So why would you buy, you know, the the the the pound? That's just my you know, my thinking So it says we should remember that the uk's economy was pulled bound by the bank holiday for the queen's state funeral Which caused around half of the zero point six percent drop in gdp during september, but still pantheon macros sam tombs says uk is a global outlier the only g7 country to have not seen gdp recover fully to its pre-covid fourth quarter 29 19 peak, right? So there are reasons to to not really For me, anyway, when I buy the the pound and also as well if I go back to I think it was here a tiny the global uk sorry trying to global economy Prospects darken for uk and the euro area. So you've also got as well. You got the um the budget as well. So jeremy hunt um Is releasing uh chancellor is releasing the uh the budget and that's going to have a big effect on You know fiscal policy and how you know, they try to um help the economy fiscally. So um That's pretty going to be a market mover, but I don't think there's anything they can really do to be fair. Um, they got to try something but um, it depends on how the market takes it, but i'm still personally of a shorter of the uh of the uk and and the pound And so for me technically I think right here Supply there was talks about it could run up to the 120s. So if it does run up to the 120s one 2050 Area, I do think actually this area is going to be very nice and a decent bargain long way to go Not too sure whether the forecast is still forecasting um 103s But because of what happened obviously with inflation in the us But I do think that there is a good few 100 good more than a few hundred pips You know five to a thousand pip move to the downside the higher it goes. So um, yeah, let's see what happens here So any short trades around here or here? I think are very nice for Um to buy the dollar against the pound and if you want to buy the pound Against the dollar, then you're really looking at this area here quite a wide zone of demand um Demand, okay. It's not changing. All right. That should be demand What's going on there? Anyways, um That's a demand zone. Um, even though it's in red. So, um But we have my biases to the downside. So I'm looking for any kind of short trades and around these zones I'm coming next week Euro dollar Right and the euro dollar, um, again, my bias is still to the short side Although we've obviously seen this massive massive pullback, right? Um Sharp pullback, but I still think the dollar is a buy over europe Um short term, obviously, it's a bit difficult to to trade in terms of, um, you know understanding the sentiment And it's not to say that you don't understand the sentiment because sentiment is against the dollar at the moment But I do think, um You know, I'm looking for just opportunities to look for any short trades in these areas Of course, this is not financial advice. If you do want to be a buyer of the, um, the the euro Then you're really looking for a pullback into that demand zone there Um, why is it not turning? I wonder why it's not To demand supply demand All right. Okay. It's a bit, um It's a bit frustrating, but yeah, there's, um Let me just turn this green a bit. Turn green. Okay. All right. So it's turning green then anyways It's a demand zone there, right? You have to wait for a pullback, but you end up having to wait for at least a 200 Nearly 300 pit pullback, you know for in order for you to try and get along at that demand zone um Aussie dollar Yeah, Aussie dollar and we've got, um, again similar to, um A lot of the other currencies in terms of buying, uh the dollar You're going to have to I'm not sure what's happening guys with my, uh My supply and demand zones have to do it manually. It looks like, um anyways These are where the supply zones are I don't even think my supply zone is working now. Um I'm having a technical meltdown. Anyways, uh, this is where the supply zone is Let's see if I can draw in here now.  There's something to do with my internet connection. I think I know what was going on. Anyways, um, so Any short trades if you're looking to buy the u.s. Dollar? Um Coming up I think around here in fact that extends up here. Um Again, I think I'd probably be a buyer of the australian dollar if the covids zero, um, Chinese You know the chinese, um Produce the covids zero policy or end it and I think that is going to be a really nice buy for the australian dollar against the um, the u.s. Dollar, but um until really there's a bit more evidence to support that trade idea Um, I think my bias is probably more to the uh to the short side, but I'm not really interested in trading this pair. Um Until until I think the covids zero, um starts to you know, have an impact Aussie yen and Let's see what happens here, but I think we've got Quite a wide demand zone And demand zone has been touched several times. So for me if I was going to be a buyer I would really want to be a buyer down at these. Um Down at these lows right here. So, um any kind of pullback Right into here because it's been touched here been touched here For me, this doesn't this becomes less of a bargain. So I'd really wait for prices to put back into the 90, um The 90s and look for any kind of buy trades if you're looking to short the oz yen, then your first area has to be Uh the supply zone right there There and There is where we are. Um You do have actually a really Quite a nice Obvious area of support as well. So uh for those of you who know about potential stop hunting That's a decent area for a potential stop hunt as well. Um So those are your options and then gold gold is uh taken off this week Um Again, I've been saying this for the past few months, you know the smart money The the central banks have really been buying Gold and buying gold and let's uh Show you one second. It says one of the World's top gold buying central banks is far from satid sated. I guess, um Uzbekistan is growing share of bullion in 32 billion reserves And central banker says Uzbekistan has reversed plans to buy debt in the world's Second biggest buyer of gold among central banks last quarter believes there's hardly such thing As as too much bullion, right? So you might be thinking well Uzbekistan, you know, they're not the biggest country in the world But ultimately, um, if they're buying, you know, gold and they're starting to buy gold Believe me and this is the I guess more the more of the developed nation, right? So developing. Sorry Gold bugs in the developing world, right? Um, so the developed world which is, you know, the the u.k The u.s. Japan Europe if you know, these guys are buying and increasing their their their gold reserves then imagine what the developed Banks are doing and you know, that's um You know, it makes all the sense in the world and so, um Really buying gold is just you know, if you're you know, short dollars I guess a way to kind of short dollars is to really kind of buy gold and you're looking for really any pull backs Especially if it's a gold um dollars does start to kind of just weaken a bit and start to auction Then these areas here are going to be really really nice for a potential, you know, buy on gold If you believe in, you know, continued dollar strength up into, you know, the highs and beyond which I actually don't anymore because of the uh shift really in The terminal rate on the dollar, um Then you can obviously look for short trades here if you believe that the dollar is still going to strengthen Then there is an argument just you know for that to happen, um You know to the short side, but I think for me going into 2023 My bias now is going to be on buying um the obviously now, but it's been on that that way for a for a while But um, it's buying uh more gold on pull backs. I think So uh, so yeah, that's really where we are So hope you enjoyed the uh technical analysis again, don't forget Trading 180 membership opens up on monday the 28th of november for um a few days And it's going to be the last one this year also as well um If you want to you want me to release the forecasting forex trends this year that lasts for months webinar You know one in four people have got to like this video and I've got to have a thousand views So I need to get 250 likes in a thousand views and if you can do that I will release it ASAP It will go on as soon as I see that we've got a 25 percent. So guys have a great week and I will speak to you all soon


have full control over the images and the edits and everything, but I probably have to say the Pimp C book. And so how that came about after he passed, you know, it was kind of something that I was thinking about for a while. And I finally asked Bunn, you know, I just called Bunn and said, I have this idea, how do you feel? And, you know, he pretty much gave me the green light. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we going to talk about this. What would you say is the pinnacle of your career so far that you've accomplished? Oh, that's a good question. I mean, as a journalist, I just always like to have control over my material. So I don't I don't do a whole lot of writing for other publications. I always just like to do my own so I can have full control over the images and the edits and everything. But I probably have to say the Pimp C book. And so how that came about after he passed, you know, it was kind of something that I was thinking about for a while. And I finally asked Bunn, you know, I just called Bunn and said, I have this idea. How do you feel? And, you know, he pretty much gave me the green light to go ahead with it. And so I approached his mom next. And his wife agreed in the beginning, too. That's a whole other story. But yeah, I think I heard you speak on that a little bit. Yeah, we won't get into that too much. But when I went to meet with his mom, I kind of I was kind of nervous, you know, because I hadn't met her before. And I had this whole like kind of, you know, spiel prepared of how I was going to picture on it. We, you know, took her out to eat.  She was just all on board with it. And so I was surprised that she was so, you know, enthusiastic about it.  So she had already heard a lot about me. And it's funny actually, because when I went in and I had already sent him some magazines, I think Wendy Day had given me his address or whatever. So when I first sat down, you can like hear it on the video or whatever, when I first sat down and said, hey, I'm here, you know, from ozone. He was like, who owns this magazine? I thought he was like mad, like we printed something, you know, wrong, whatever.   I was like, yeah, it's my magazine. So, oh, and you asked earlier about so about partners. I did have a partner early on, Chino. Okay. Shout out to Chino. He was from Orlando and had a record label called DEA. So, but I ended up buying him out. I think it was like a year or two in. I mean, he was never fully active. He had like five or six other. You had a rep here in Dallas named Pookie. Yeah, yeah, shout out to Pookie, right? I'm doing my research here, you know. Well, I think it was Manny Fresh said one time that we had so many reps. He was like, man, I was in Africa and this guy jumped out from behind a bush and said he was a Rose on the side.  I always feel like if you're own, if you're able to own it right, right. write out, own something, do it, because two people or three people never have the same passion for it. Well, I had so many people try. I mean, like, I had other people try to try to buy it.  Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we going to.