be released in a very short amount of time what sort of needs are there in place and what sort of system do they go through to actually check them it's exactly those that you mentioned the psychological needs if they're released quickly it's simply because their physical condition is good and there's nothing to do in a hospital you don't need to be in a hospital in order to receive psychological assistance for that you can do that back at the community and of course the community we have to understand is not always their home most of those released came from these communities such as Niroz, Berik, Farazah and all those communities are currently dislocated they're in hotels and that's where they return but obviously they feel much better and much more comfortable doing that along the people that they know along with their community and not in a hospital I think everyone's praying that those people back with their families those families that are still partially intact at least are making a swift recovery and returning to some sense of normalcy thank you very much Jonathan for that update from the hostages and from the hospital itself we are going to turn back to our discussion panel in studio with Martin Hemmel and Guy Azrael Martin I want to start with you Hamas has effectively bought themselves an additional week to live during this ceasefire they've gotten a great deal of supplies and they have gotten the ability to muster international attention and a push to extend the ceasefire the question is now that things look like the war might be coming back into play very soon where is that international pressure going to fall I think a certain amount of it will fall towards Israel but I don't think is enough to change Israeli policy because the United States still will back Israel it will escalate somewhat with the inevitable casualty count among civilians especially when they head towards Han Yunis and places like that I mean they're obviously going to go in that direction because that's where the core of Hamas is right now so I think that the war effort will continue as far as the government decides there will be pressure but I don't think it'd be enough to stop it and on the topic of the American response we do have a sound bite from Anthony Blinken who is currently in Israel to oversee the response let's take a lesson from day one we have been focused relentlessly on trying to secure the release of hostages from Gaza and from Hamas and we have seen over the last week the very positive development of hostages coming home being reunited with their families and that should continue today it's also enabled an increase in humanitarian assistance to go to innocent civilians in Gaza who need it desperately so this process is producing results it's important and we hope that it can continue and I'm going to turn back to Maher and is there ultimately a dichotomy for the American interest here because the Americans have many American citizens that were also taken hostage in that attack a disproportionate amount compared to many other nations around the world but it's also in America's interest to see Hamas fall many people say these are not goals that go against each other but for the Americans who are thinking in the most immediate sense these goals are very much against each other it seems they are basically they want a situation where Israel only shoots Hamas operatives and civilians magically stay safe everywhere which is not the case in any war not alone this war but I think they're just going to try to minimize the damage they can try to put pressure look if you're going to go in there take extra special care on the civilians there's a lot of them there you can't avoid them now it's going to be that very complicated situation I think they will create a political cushion for the United States in that sense by saying see we told the Israelis and Israel will be the bad cop and do whatever it has to do but they're not going to stop them nor will the Egyptians and I don't think the Saudi Arabians do because somewhere in the back of their minds they want Israel to succeed because they hated us just as much as Israel does I mean that's an interesting point that you notice because if we look at some of the military's figures from the war they said that they've got about 6,000 terrorists since the war began that they've killed out of about 12,000-ish total casualties in Gaza which is a ratio almost one to one compared that to NATO average for urban fighting of one to three or the UN's average in wars in recent history which is one to nine you would think a one to one ratio would have bought Israel a lot more good will than it really has Israel's held at a completely different standard whether it's just because of simply for Palestinians or straight anti-Semitism or a combination of both which I think it's a combination of both and so it has to deal with that reality I mean France right now is leaning more towards a ceasefire that's a big win for Hamas if it goes that way but that's still not enough to stop Israel so despite the fact that the United States killed over 150,000 civilians in its war in Iraq and killed many thousands in Afghanistan this was just placed by different rules it's trying to fight a war with not just one hand tied behind us back but almost to it seems like sometimes but the United States how does it plan to actually accomplish these goals of A the defeat of Hamas and B keeping Israel from inflicting a great deal of damage on Gaza in the process you mentioned that it might just be a matter of words but it seems to not just be words well I think it's primarily a matter of words no one is fooling themselves that it's going to be a very difficult and damaging process and a costly process but the United States has to say look we tried for its electorate it has no illusions that is what's going to do what it has to do but I think there's looking to Israel is look do it quickly finish with it and try to avoid killing many civilians as you can and Guy I want to turn back to you because it's not just Israel there's also the rest of the region watching and yes the Americans have their perspective but Israel is really hoping that regional partners such as the Saudis or the Emirates might be able to have some hand in the governance or at least the maintenance of Gaza after the war what would their position be once the war once again heats up and you start seeing those casualty counts go up again It's complicated Blinken yesterday in a press conference in Europe says we're not just talking about the day after the war but the day after the day after the war meaning not just the immediate solution as to who rules the Gaza Strip at the end of the war but looking more long term into the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians and obviously even within Israel there isn't a consensus about who should be ruling Gaza so even more so when you speak about the region because each of the parties here have different have different opinions Egypt with its support for the Palestinians does not want to take in any refugees from Gaza we don't see any inclination to do so from other partners in the region as well Jordan has its sensitivity with the Palestinians obviously a country with 70% population of Palestinians for the most part Israel expected the comments coming from most of its apparent partners here speaking about Egypt and Jordan but also from Saudi Arabia and the Emirates the rhetoric is clear the civilian casualties in Gaza is something that those countries were not able to avoid also in their public statements behind closed doors they obviously understand very well what Israel is doing and how serious is the threat of Hamas and as we speak about other threats in the region while the IDF just releasing a statement about those alerts that we heard in the north saying that a short while ago following the sirens that sounded in the north the IDF aerial defense era is successfully intercepted a suspicious aerial target that crossed from Lebanon into Israeli territory another emphasis of the threat that is existing we can see that image in on our screen right now it's an image of the interception of that aerial threat that emanated out of Lebanon most likely Hezbollah aerial vehicle of some sort that crossed into Israel we saw that drones UAVs have been in use both by Hezbollah both from Hamas both from the Khoutis in Yemen and from other entities even from Syria Israel's defense area in this case managing to intercept that's right underscores the point that despite a week of relative calm and ceasefire this is far from over and there's still a great deal of work to do I thank both of you Guy as well as you Martin for all that breakdown for everyone else though we're out of time but we'll see you again at the next hour Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well and armed civilians that put down the terrorists it is a difficult morning for all of us condolences to the families speedy recovery for the wounded and a big hug to the heroes who saved lives here this event proves once again why we must not show weakness why it is only possible to talk with Hamas through rifle sights only through war in Hamas we fight this event illustrates another thing how important is the policy of delivering weapons despite the criticism I will continue with the policy of handing out weapons everywhere including to emergency units and civilians a weapon saves lives we see it time and time again wherever there are weapons citizens policemen soldiers save the situation and with us in studio is a discussion panel made up of political and international security analysts as well as Guy Azrael our senior editor here Guy I want to open with you for the latest updates on the situation in Jerusalem so the event is over two terrorists from East Jerusalem from the neighborhood of Sur Bahar these two brothers both of them have spent time in Israeli prisons for security offenses so there are no strangers to the Israeli security system this morning at around 7 40 a.m. arrived with their car at this busy junction in Jerusalem at the bus stop we can see the images there as they exited the car they opened fire at all the Israelis who were at that bus stop pretty firing at whoever they could smurdering three Israelis then making the way back to the car I guess attempting to flee as two soldiers and one civilian attempted to fire at them eventually they were subdued both of them killed there by these very brave Israelis who confronted them amid live fire from these terrorists we can see there what's horrific images this is the reality in Jerusalem this morning this is just one of so many similar attacks we've seen both in Jerusalem but over the past year in Tel Aviv as well some very similar incidents that we've seen over the past year Palestinian terrorists infiltrating Israeli communities the war that Israel is engaged with is not limited just to Gaza not at all it is in every Israeli city and that war as we also will hear later from the sound bite of Israeli National Security Minister is against terror that strikes Israeli civilians no matter where they're from or where they are he actually brought up the Interior Security Minister I want to turn to Martin here Ben Gvir talking about efforts to ensure that there are more armed civilians to prevent these sort of terror attacks this is actually something that's run into some friction with the American government as well the Biden administration had disapproved of that policy and threatened to stop shipping rifles to Israel to stop fulfilling orders of rifles to Israel because of Ben Gvir's stance on arms failure Blinken in town today and supposed to be here through most of the weekend is this event going to possibly open the eyes of the American administration and possibly change their policy against terror and not just the war I don't think it's going to have that kind of effect Blinken's coming here with also political considerations back home the Democratic Party the ruling party basically of the United States Joe Biden's party is severely split over whether to be supporting Israel or opposing Israel and the prevailing mood is obviously to support but there's a lot of criticism so that has to be factored in I think Blinken is coming here to try to lengthen the ceasefire if at all possible with whatever way possible and then you know Ben Gvir also is a rabble rouser and he takes advantage of the opportunity to score political points and I don't think that what he has to say is going to have much impact on Blinken you had mentioned that dichotomy in the Democratic Party the progressive wing which is extremely vehemently anti-Israel and the establishment Democrats that support America's traditional foreign policy and as such require Israel as sort of a forward American base in the region but would it not be in the Biden administration's favor to ensure the war continues so it's over fast and take advantage of the short memories of the American public so by the time the election rolls around the progressive wing has something else to complain about well I think what he's seeing is the big the big political roadblock and also international roadblock of a lot of Palestinian civilians being killed Israel is going to be moving into the south all those refugees that came from the north are now in the south you're talking about all close to 2 million people in a very small area so a lot of civilians are going to get into the crossfire and the United States is shattering at the political fallout for that yeah because many of the security establishment people are saying that this war is going to be six months it could be as much as a year which means it's going to be running concurrent with the democratic primaries as well as the democratic the general election as well do we see that forming enough pressure to force the American administration to attempt to curtail Israel's response no I don't think it's going to go that far the heavy duty part the part where there's a lot of shooting and bombing is not going to be six months at the longest estimates by the Israelis it's somewhere in the six week range and that is they'll have to sweat out a lot of political fallout for that and then the short-term memory effect comes in and now I'm going to turn to our correspondent Pierre Kloschenleur who is in the field standing by at the site of that terror attack in Jerusalem Pierre can you tell us exactly what happened and what's going on at the scene now right what happened is that the two terrorists came with a white car here they got out of the car armed with an M16 assault rifle and a pistol and started shooting in this direction toward the bus station where people were waiting for their transportation the luck is according to one of the witness is that many people got on a bus just instance before the shooting attack now at the same moment as you see that municipal workers are already trying to fix what happened here and the blood has already been washed and you see that window which needs some repair because it was broken with the bullets now just within seconds an orange car came here parked around here and a reserve soldier came out in full uniform with his weapon also an M16 he had a 12 hour leave and he was returning to the Gaza front now he shot the two terrorists and was lightly wounded in the hand the two terrorists were killed and within seconds the incident was over but the death toll is heavy three dead four critically moderately severely wounded sorry one moderately wounded and one lightly wounded the reserve soldier in the hand now within three hours look at what's happening they're already fixing the bus stop the bus stop is functioning people are waiting for the buses the the floor has been completely washed the rescue services of the Maghen David Adam we're here within minutes because the headquarters of the Maghen David Adam are just minutes away by car and as a result barely half an hour after the shooting attack all the people were in two hospitals now the two terrorists are from the Nimmer family from an East Jerusalem neighborhood called Sur Bahair one is 38 and he was already jailed in Israel for terrorist offence on behalf of Hamas between 2010 and 2020 for 10 years he's keen we don't know if it's his brother or his relative he's 30 years old he was incarcerated for eight months in 2014 for assisting terrorists and both of them are dead now police forces are in Sur Bahair in order to continue the investigation and probably also take measurements for the house that might be destroyed if the families appeal to the Supreme Court is not accepted by the Supreme Court Ariel well thank you very much Pierre from the update from the scene and to remind our viewers exactly how that went down we did speak to emergency first responders who are on scene exactly after it happened here's what he had to say what happened this morning and this very difficult morning here in the entrance to Jerusalem is a car that you can see right behind me there they came up to the bus stop which unfortunately is known has known a number of terror attacks in the past stopped at the bus stop terrorists came out of the car and started shooting with automatic weapons that people waiting to go to work or wherever they were going this morning killing two and injuring another eight or nine people on scene and what was the response like how fast were emergency services able to make the scene and what were the immediate needs so the first call that came over the radio was of our volunteers of ours who live across the street literally coming running out of their houses to the sounds of the automatic gunshots running across the street immediately saying that there are a number of people injured and different levels of severity within I would say a minute and a half two minutes at max there were a number of medics EMTs paramedics on scene already treating the patients and then assisting to transport them to the hospitals for definitive care unfortunately there were those that didn't survive we hear that there are still five people in serious to possibly critical condition what do we know about the injuries and what can we say about their prognosis so we I don't know to say at this point about their prognosis and their injuries are our severe injuries from multiple gunshots to different parts of the body I can't go into too much detail but a lot of a lot of firearm was a shot over here and we're all praying for them to survive the scene on the ground now is it considered secure is the incident considered over the incident at this point is considered over yes absolutely they're already now starting to clear away the vehicle of the terrorists from here and of course the police are doing the work and once the terrorists were taken out of course police took extra measures to do an initial assessment of the area to see that there aren't that there aren't additional terrorists but otherwise there wasn't any significant threat once the terrorists were shot by the by a soldier that happened to be here at the bus stop and the civilian I'm going to turn back to the studio with Guy Azrael because we have the names of the victims confirmed now what can you tell us unfortunately the names have been revealed the victims in today's in this morning's terror attack our Elie Melech Wasserman is a Rabbi 73 years old we're also speaking about mrs. Hanna Ifrigan 67 years old from Bechemish and the third victim is 24 years old Libya Dickman from Jerusalem 3 innocent civilians who are sitting at a bus stop in Jerusalem on the way to work to school their daily life their lives have ended this morning tragically at the hands of these two Palestinian terrorists seeking Israeli blood another terror attack with innocent civilians with families that are devastated that are destroyed as we saw on October 7th this is the same ideology of Hamas same one that we're seeing in Jerusalem the same one that we've been seeing on the streets of Israel and the West Bank for so many years it's a painful reminder that the enemy isn't just located in Gaza we are though going to turn our attention to the front there because that is where the war is happening though at the moment a fragile ceasefire still holding Hamas has violated the terms of that ceasefire yet again the deal was renewed just before it was set to expire this morning Hamas will return just eight hostages that they abducted during the October 7th massacre in return they buy themselves another day to live 30 more convicted terrorists released from Israeli prisons and fuel into the Gaza Strip which Hamas will use some portion of to fuel its war capabilities Hamas at the last moment attempted to alter the terms of the deal offering three dead bodies alongside seven live hostages for continued ceasefire Israel originally rejected this the terms were 10 live women and children per day of ceasefire but the terrorists are claiming they don't have any women and children left Israeli intelligence says otherwise saying that Hamas has at least 15 more to give Israel was given a list of 10 more names today and accepted the terms Hamas released two Russian Israeli citizens last night as a gesture to Vladimir Putin who was a key ally of Hamas's backer and it was originally thought that these two were a separate event now the terrorists are holding these two releases against today's count which is the reason has been reduced to eight all throughout this there have been more stories of cruel abuses of the hostages coming to light coming to the families of those released or sometimes from the release to themselves talking of captive beaten with cables children that were forced to watch videos of the October 7th massacre atrocities at gunpoint well for the status of the hostages that have been released we turn now to our senior defense correspondent Jonathan Regev who is standing by at the Schneider Children's Medical Center Jonathan what can you tell us about the hostages four of them are really arrived here at the Schneider Hospital they arrived very late at night because we remember the release was delayed by a few hours last night eventually it happened and four of them got here the the initial report we're hearing the preliminary checks that were made show that they're in a good physical condition all four that arrived here those are good knows of course four new patients here that arrived last night and physically in a good condition and that's physically speaking but we know those aren't the only challenges ahead what are the medical professionals saying about the mental challenges for the hostages quite a lot of them we have to say we know that a few of the hostages that arrived here at Schneider and also in other hospitals have already already been released simply because there's not a lot for them to do and in a hospital as they're in a stable physical condition their psychological mental condition that's another issue and they'll have to be treated for months and months to come understanding that the ordeals they went through in more than seven weeks in Gaza were harsh and they have an effect psychological effect a mental effect that is something that will have to be checked at least on the physical level all those that arrived here are in good condition as far as the psychological treatment that will continue for those here and those already released have the doctors there given you an idea of what the initial assessment looks like for the hostages once they're released because many of them seem to be released in a very short amount of time what sort of needs are there in place and what sort of system do they go through to actually check them it's exactly those that you mentioned the psychological needs if they're released quickly it's simply because their physical condition is good and there's nothing to do in a hospital you don't need to be in a hospital in order to receive psychological assistance for that you can do that back at the community and of course the community we have to understand is not always their home most of those released came from the these communities such as Neroz, Beirik, Fa'aza and all those communities are currently dislocated they're in hotels and that's where they return but obviously they feel much better and much more comfortable doing that along the people that they know along with their community in order to hospital I think everyone's praying that those people back with their families those families that are still partially intact at least are making a swift recovery and returning to some sense of normalcy thank you very much Jonathan for that update from the hostages and from the hospital itself we are going to turn back to our discussion panel in studio with Martin Himmel and Guy Azrael Martin I want to start with you Hamas has effectively bought themselves an additional week to live during this ceasefire they've gotten a great deal of supplies and they have gotten the ability to muster international attention and a push to extend the ceasefire the question is now that things look like the war might be coming back into play very soon where is that international pressure going to fall I think a certain amount of it will fall towards Israel but I don't think it is enough to change Israeli policy because the United States still will back Israel it will escalate somewhat with the inevitable casualty count among civilians especially when they head towards Hanyunas and places like that I mean they're obviously going to go in that direction because that's where the core of Hamas is right now so I think that the war effort will continue as far as as far as the government decides there will be pressure but I don't think it'll be enough to stop it and on the topic of the American response we do have a sound bite from Anthony Blinken who is currently in Israel to oversee the response let's take a listen from day one we have been focused relentlessly on trying to secure the release of hostages from from Gaza and from Hamas and we have seen over the last week the very positive development of hostages coming home being reunited with their families and that should continue today it's also enabled it's going to be an increase in humanitarian assistance to go to innocent civilians in Gaza who need it desperately so this process is producing results it's important and we hope that it can continue and I'm going to turn back to Mara and is there ultimately a dichotomy for the American interests here because the Americans have many American citizens that were also taken hostage in that attack a disproportionate amount compared to many other nations around the world but it's also in America's interest to see Hamas fall many people say these are not goals that go against each other but for the Americans who are thinking the most immediate sense these goals are very much against each other it seems they are basically they want a situation where Israel only shoots Hamas operatives and civilians magically stay safe everywhere which is not the case in any war not alone this war but I think they're just going to try to minimize the damage they can try to put pressure look if you're going to go in there take extra special care on the civilians there's a lot of them there you can't avoid them now it's going to be a very complicated situation I think they will create a political cushion for the United States in that sense by saying see we told the Israelis and Israel will be the bad cop and do whatever it has to do but they're not going to stop them nor will the Egyptians and I don't think the Saudi Arabians too because they hated us just as much as Israel does I mean that's an interesting point that you notice because if we look at some of the military's figures from the war they said they've got about 6,000 terrorists since the war began that they've killed out of about 12,000 ish total casualties in Gaza which is a ratio almost one to one compare that to NATO average for urban fighting of one to three or the UN's average in wars in recent history which is one to nine you would think a one to one ratio would have bought Israel a lot more good will than it really has Israel's held at a completely different standard whether it's just because of simply for Palestinians or straight anti-Semitism or a combination of both which I think it's a combination of both and so it has to deal with that reality I mean France right now is leaning more towards a ceasefire that's a big win for Hamas if it goes that way but that's still not enough to stop Israel so despite the fact that the United States killed over 150,000 civilians in its war in Iraq and killed many thousands in Afghanistan is well just placed by different rules It's trying to fight a war with not just one hand tied behind us back but almost two it seems like sometimes but the United States how does it plan to actually accomplish these goals of A. The defeat of Hamas and B. Keeping Israel from inflicting a great deal of damage on Gaza in the process you mentioned that it might just be a matter of words but it seems not just be words well I think it's primarily a matter of words no one is fooling themselves that it's going to be a very difficult and damaging process and a costly process but the United States has to say look we tried for its electorate it has no illusions that is what's going to do what it has to do but I think there's looking to Israel is look do it quickly finish with it and try to avoid killing many civilians as you can and Guy I want to turn back to you because it's not just Israel there's also the rest of the region watching and yes the Americans have their perspective but Israel is really hoping that regional partners such as the Saudis or the Emirates might be able to have some hand in the governance or at least the maintenance of Gaza after the war what would their position be once the war once again heats up and you start seeing those casualty counts go up again it's complicated Blinken yesterday in a press conference in Europe says we're not just talking about the day after the war but the day after the day after the war meaning not just the immediate solution is to who rules the Gaza Strip at the end of the war but looking more long term into the conflict between Israel and the Palestinians and obviously even within Israel there isn't a consensus about who should be ruling Gaza so even more so when you speak about the region because each of the parties here have different have different opinions Egypt with its support for the Palestinians does not want to take in any refugees from Gaza we don't see any inclination to do so from other partners in the region as well Jordan has its sensitivity with the Palestinians obviously a country with 70% population of Palestinians for the most part Israel expected the comments coming from most of its apparent partners here speaking about Egypt and Jordan but also from Saudi Arabia and the Emirates the rhetoric is clear the civilian casualties in Gaza is something that those countries were not able to avoid also in their public statements behind closed doors they obviously understand very well what Israel is doing and how serious is the threat of Hamas and as we speak about other threats in the region well the IDF just releasing a statement about those alerts that we heard in the north saying that a short while ago following the sirens that sounded in the north the IDF aerial defense era is successfully intercepted as suspicious aerial target that crossed from Lebanon into Israeli territory another emphasis of the threat that is existing we can see that image in on our screen right now it's an image of the interception of that aerial threat that emanated out of Lebanon most likely Hezbollah aerial vehicle of some sort that crossed into Israel we saw that drones UAVs have been in use both by Hezbollah both from Hamas both from the Khoutis in Yemen and from other entities even from Syria Israel's defense area in this case managing to intercept that threat underscores the point that despite a week of relative calm and ceasefire this is far from over and there's still a great deal of work to do I think both of you Guy as well as you Martin for all that breakdown for everyone else though we're out of time but we'll see you again at the next hour Israel is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front lines but the general perception is something that certainly needs to be fought as well April news is ongoing coverage of Israel at war I'm Ariel Levin Waldman a major terror attack in Jerusalem this morning at about 740 a.m. in the remote neighborhoods three people killed when two terrorists burst out of a car with automatic weapons wounding five more Israelis in serious condition and four others still in moderate and light condition both terrorists were neutralized on the scene by nearby soldiers as well as by an armed civilian Israel's internal security minister Itamar Ben-Vir addressed the events of this morning and the security forces and civilians that put down the terrorists it is a difficult morning for all of us condolences to the families speedy recovery for the wounded and a big hug to the heroes who saved lives here this event proves once again why we must not show weakness why it is only possible to talk with Hamas through rifle sights only through war in Hamas we fight this event illustrates another thing how important is the policy of delivering weapons despite the criticism I will continue with the policy of handing out weapons everywhere including to emergency units and civilians a weapon saves lives we see it time and time again wherever there are weapons citizens policemen soldiers save the situation and we have our correspondent Pierre Kloschenler standing by in Jerusalem at the scene of that attack Pierre walk us through exactly what happened well I'm gonna ask you to play the interview which we did with Yosef Chaimochaian he is an eyewitness of the terror attack and then I'll explain let's hear him first I passed by here every morning at this exact bus stop I stood here like every day I saw the car stopping by the station it seemed suspicious from the start the driver got out of the vehicle and pulled out a weapon I realized immediately that this is a terror attack miraculously moments before the shooting a large crowd that was in the bus stop went into a bus that drove away so many lives were saved today I regret not doing military service I'm still in shock I'm still shaking I'm tired and I just want to get back home right now the car of the terrorist was just here it was a white car they came out of the car and started shooting in this direction at the bus stop as you heard moments before many people that came out of the bus now you see there are ultra-alpha orthodox cool girls that are now decorating the site of the murder in which three Israelis were killed ultra-orthodox and they're putting Israeli flags as well as some inscription and it says don't be afraid don't be afraid that's what it says now you have here the whole scene of the shooting it happened very quickly within seconds two reserve soldiers who were on their way back to the Gaza front they've had a leave of 12 hours only and they were on their way back they stopped they were here they shot at the two terrorists and killed them they had M-16 assault rifle and a pistol the two reservists had M-16 assault and here and it seems that we have lost yeah we seem to have lost our connection with Pierre hold on I think we're about to re-establish that do you see me yes we are reconnected do you hear me yes okay the rampage affected people that were on that tree just here and a few moments ago a Zaka rescue worker tried to scrap pieces of flesh and blood that were stuck on the tree now this is because in Judaism you must not leave any piece of human flesh and blood on a scene of violence you have to purify the scene now the evacuation of the wounded there are four severely wounded one moderately and one lightly we're hospitalized between within half an hour because the rescue uh service headquarters are just minutes away by car from here they were evacuated to two hospitals the funeral is going to take place very quickly between one and two this afternoon of the three victims and uh you can see now the bus stop is bustling with life and people are still waiting for the buses and you can see the bus just here and the highway is open and the floor has been cleansed from the blood of the victim all that happened within a couple of hours after the terror attack well thank you very much for that view from the scene Pierre we will be of course coming back to you over the course of the day with updates on that site now for more though we are going to return to our studio where we have a discussion panel that consists of Colonel Olivier Raffowitz IDF spokesperson for international media as well as our senior editor Guy Azriel I'm going to open with you Guy because there's more information still on the attack what do we know of the perpetrators right so we do know the two perpetrators are of the same family both of them members or residents of the tour Bahr neighborhood in east Jerusalem both of them holding blue Israeli IDs meaning that they really have free access to go anywhere they want in Israel there is no limitation they don't have to go through checkpoints etc from east Jerusalem into where they executed this attack as we could see they drove this car into that bus stop where they were able to get out open fire with an automatic weapon and handgun very luckily and I think this is the main point here the very quick reaction of the soldiers that were there and as an Israeli civilian really saved a lot of lives very sadly we have three victims here but the results could have been a lot more catastrophic unless these brave men confronted those terrorists really risking their lives instead of running away they have saved the lives of so many really again also emphasizing what we heard from national security minister Itamar Ben-Vir the fact that they were there and that they were armed this saves lives and when we see the time and time again in Jerusalem in particular where you do have more presence of security personnel and that are able to stop these attacks and one more thing as we saw from Pierre there life is so quickly back to normal in Jerusalem sadly this city is so familiar with these terror attacks but life goes on and this is I think the message from Israel to these terrorists you do not stop life in Jerusalem the life continues Jerusalem is a city that has seen so many terror attacks over the past decades I myself as a journalist who's been there so many times a city that has seen so much suffering from the days of the Second Intifada the major bombings in restaurants shooting attacks etc etc at the end of the day life goes on and this is the victory of Israel over terror life prevails I want to take a quick security assessment here with Olivier because we've seen so many attacks in the last year or so coming out of East Jerusalem it's always considered a hot spot extremely radicalized area and so many of them do have as Guy mentioned that blue Israeli citizenship ID is there any practical way to reduce the freedom of movement for terrorists there to prevent attacks like this Like you have just heard by a guy I mean they're Israeli in Jerusalem for me it's Jerusalem but they have ID cards so they are like residents of Jerusalem but there is for now a long time a penetration of Islamism Islamic groups more particularly Hamas and Islamic jihad in these villages in these areas in these neighborhood on what we are now facing it actually the I would say the expansion of Hamas influence not only in Gaza but also outside and this attack is actually Hamas oriented Hamas linked and it's approved that we are facing Hamas threat all over and we cannot actually we cannot prevent and stop freedom of movement because it will be counterproductive Now we know that Hamas has been trying their hardest to open another front in the West Bank to take pressure off of Gaza the same way they've been pushing his Bola to open another front in earnest to take pressure off of Gaza as well is it possible to stop the West Bank from flaring up the way we're seeing The answer is yes that way for now almost two months more particularly the Shin Bet and the IDF are carrying out every day but mostly every night a series of arrest operations sometimes very difficult very sensitive mostly in the air Brunner air and also in Jenin and Nablus in the northern part of Samaria I think we are now talking about almost 2,000 people who have been arrested connected to Hamas there are most of them preventive arrest operation but it is the only way to stop or to prevent further attacks all around And that's certainly a way of stopping Hamas operatives or people linked with Hamas operatives but if we look at some of the polling that we've seen coming out of the West Bank 89% of West Bank Palestinians supports the Hamas armed wing 84% of West Bank Palestinians support the massacres of October 7th when you're facing that sort of situation is it even enough to stop Hamas linked operatives or there are so many threats of lone wolves there that how do you deal with it? I will tell you something we don't deal with surveys always I don't know numbers we deal with facts and for the time being we cannot change the mind of people it's not the Israeli intention of course but we can actually prevent people to act against Israel that's what we are doing and in this matter I believe that the Israeli army and mostly the Sinbad together are doing a great incredible job And before we continue I want some of our viewers to get a more on the ground look at the attack of this morning earlier we did speak to a first responder and here was the immediate aftermath that he witnessed What happened this morning in this very difficult morning here in the entrance to Jerusalem is a car that you can see right behind me there came up to the bus stop which unfortunately is known for it has known a number of their attacks in the past stopped at the bus stop terrorists came out of the car and started shooting with automatic weapons that people waiting to go to work or wherever they were going this morning killing two and injuring another eight or nine people on scene And what was the response like? How fast were emergency services able to make the scene and what were the immediate needs So the first call that came over the radio was of our volunteers of ours who live across the street literally coming running out of their houses to the sounds of the automatic gunshots running across the street immediately saying that there are a number of people injured and different levels of severity within I would say a minute and a half two minutes at max there were a number of medics EMTs paramedics on scene already treating the patients and then assisting to transport them to the hospitals for definitive care unfortunately there were those that didn't survive We hear that there are still five people in serious to possibly critical condition What do we know about the injuries and what can we say about their prognosis So we I don't know to say at this point about their prognosis and their injuries are our severe injuries from multiple gunshots to different parts of the body I can't go into too much detail but a lot of firearm was shot over here and we're all praying for them to survive The scene on the ground now is it considered secure is the incident considered over The incident at this point is considered over Yes, absolutely they're already now starting to clear away the vehicle of the terrorists from here and of course the police are doing the work Once the terrorists were taken out of course police took extra measures to do an initial assessment of the area to see that there aren't additional terrorists but otherwise there wasn't any significant threat once the terrorists were shot by the soldier that happened to be here at the bus stop and the civilian And we're going to move from the potential front of the West Bank to the main front in Gaza where a fragile ceasefire still holds at least for now that despite Hamas violating the terms of the deal yet again it was renewed this morning just 20 minutes before expiry Hamas will return only eight hostages today that they abducted during the October 7th massacre in return they buy themselves another day to live as well as 30 more convicted terrorists freed from Israeli prisons and more fuel entering the Gaza Strip which Hamas will use at least some portion of to fuel its war capabilities Hamas at the very last minute attempted to alter the terms of the deal again offering three dead bodies alongside seven live hostages for continued ceasefire Israel rejected this originally the term were 10 live women and children per day of ceasefire the terrorists though claim they don't have any women and children left but Israeli intelligence says Hamas has at least 15 more to give Israel has been given a list of 10 more names today and has accepted the terms though it's worth noting that Hamas released two Russian Israeli citizens last night as a gesture to Vladimir Putin who is a key ally of Hamas's backer Iran but now the terrorists are holding those two releases against today's count which has reduced it to eight this all as we hear more stories of cruel abuse of the hostages coming from the families captives that were beaten regularly with cables children forced to watch videos of the massacres and atrocities at gunpoint and more now we are going to return to our studio for some more discussion I want to open with you Olivier because we're seeing some signs we're seeing some rubblings Israeli officials saying the ceasefire is clearly reaching its end Hamas changing the deals violating the terms at the last minute with these changes of the list and Hamas now telling their armed brigades to be ready for imminent action does this mean that we are looking at the imminent collapse of the ceasefire now I need to be very cautious when I'm answering you right now there is right now not a ceasefire but a pause a humanitarian pause it's very different the war is still here against Hamas but there is a pause and the goal of it is to receive our hostages back home alive that's why for now six days six times so it will be the seventh time this this day today we are actually applying this this pause if this pause is over the Israeli government the sole responsible for it will decide that the pause is over and that the combats are back against Hamas the army is actually ready to go back to to to fight against Hamas in the Gaza Strip all over where there is a need to and we never said that we are not ready for that we are just now actually adapting adapted adapt ourselves to this pause we are in a kind of I would say deployment according to the pause but ready for any any new development obviously Hamas has used the pause to refortify their positions reestablish their chains of commands what was Israel able to accomplish as far as combat readiness during the pause the readiness is at the top top level the forces are at the top level ready for for moving where the commander was the the orders will tell them to move to but the intelligence also was aware about what's going on in the Hamas side but I want also to to clarify the decisions made by the Israeli government and more particularly the war cabinet were actually taken with the presence of the chief general staff the Shin Bet and the Mossad all of them agreed on this pause according to different issues and they also adapt themselves to the pause to be respected by us and it was respected by us until now because we want back our hostages if the pause is over we will be ready to to move and to continue what has been started for almost two months a war against Hamas in order to destroy to dismantle to finish the Hamas regime military capabilities in the Gaza Strip I want to turn to Guy now because we've been discussing the hostages all day and we need to discuss some of Hamas' vile media manipulations during the hostage crisis and that is of course one of the most heart-wrenching stories in Israel the story of fear Bebas a 10 month old baby held by no longer even Hamas apparently passed off to another terror group in the Strip along with the rest of their family now Hamas claiming that they were killed in an Israeli air strike we know that Hamas has made many such lies before but we have to address what's become a major viral story in Israel what what do we make of all these claims this is perhaps the most sensitive story since the start of this war as these this family and particularly the young baby fear has become the symbol of this war symbol of the brutality of Hamas of the crimes against humanity committed by Hamas on that October 7th this young baby taken in his mother's arms together with his brother Ariel four years old into Gaza Israel has been awaiting their release since the start of this hostage release deal that was the first name on everybody's mouths and everybody's minds to see them finally back in Israel alive and well yesterday Hamas announced that they have lost their lives Hamas claiming that that was a result of an Israeli air strike obviously Hamas has been caught lying so many times when it comes to the Israeli hostages and their well-being nonetheless Israel announced yesterday that it had updated the family the statement of Hamas and it is working for on validating or getting more information about the status of the family here we can see the picture of baby fear bebas he was nine months old when he was kidnapped by Hamas he's 10 months now hopefully will be celebrating 11 months in Israel after he's released nonetheless this is part of the psychological warfare of Hamas in one other case at least the Palestinian militants the terrorists in Gaza have announced the death of another Israeli hostage a one that was eventually released alive a couple of weeks later we certainly hope that in this case again Hamas is lying to the family and to the Israeli public and that this poor family will be found alive and will be released back home in Israel absolutely I want to turn to Olivier because ultimately what does Hamas gain with this manipulation one by simply releasing Bebas as part of a hostage deal they could buy them to the house another day Hamas is by definition a brutal terror army and they have their own DNA to be what they are and don't forget that they want something they want the full destruction annihilation of the Jewish state no compromise with Israel nothing so in this war there is also I would say a war into the war a psychological war they are actually trying to undermine the Israeli morale of the population by playing with our nerves by playing with our emotions and of course to play with bodies like today they said that they are going to to bring back three bodies without giving names without giving identity it's horrible it's horrible from the very beginning so we have to be very strong very firm not to play according to what they want us to be but to your question I would say that don't look for something that they want to achieve because it is another mind it is another system of of thought and Hamas is actually playing according to their rules just one point if I may yesterday during the process of releasing the hostages from the Hamas to the ICRC did you see what happened thousands of Palestinians actually with Hamas were around and it was almost lynched during this process with terrible claims of I don't know hostile words hostile shouting all this atmosphere of terror of criminal terror of psychological war is part of Hamas so we'll have to discuss later the strategies of how to fight back against that psychological war but I do want to bring in another angle here our defense correspondent Jonathan Regev is at Schneider Children's Medical Center where he can update us about the condition of the hostages but before that I want to address another revelation that's come out in the last few minutes and that is the identification of another body from the Nova Music Festival of fear at Sarfatih who was originally presumed taken hostage now identified as dead is another one of those heart-wrenching issues that we've seen across the entire war and this sort of uncertainty even two months later is also hanging over the hostage situation that's ongoing as it goes Jonathan yes and that is why it is very difficult to give concrete numbers because yes we heard all along from the IDF spokesperson and numbers of families who've been notified that their loved ones are in Gaza we heard numbers such as 239, 236 is one time even 241 but the truth is that there are also people that are defined as missing they might be in Gaza maybe even alive but they might not be in Gaza might be dead not exactly clear we're hearing more and more stories of bodies being found and identified every day and this is just one of them we still have a number of people that are defined as missing this name that you brought up just one of them of course these are not happy these are not happy news for families of course the fact that their loved one was killed but it does give them a certain closure of families that have been living with uncertainty for two years so it's a very difficult issue not only hostages but also people missing it's definitely a terrible situation all around briefly though of the people that we do get back how are they doing mostly well we're speaking here of four people that were brought to Schneider hospital overnight physically they're doing quite well this is according to preliminary examination they came in very late let's remember the whole process last night was delayed by a few hours at least three hours so they got here very late the initial assessment of the four people that were brought here to Schneider is that at least physically they're in a good condition that's good to know that there is the physical recovery at least Jonathan the mental recovery is going to be a much longer road ahead thank you very much for that updates from the field there letting us know how the hostages are doing on their return now with that said we are just about out of time here so I want to thank our in-studio discussion panel made of Olivia Raffowitz as well as Guy Azriel for helping break down the situation in Gaza and helping us understand the situation in Jerusalem and with that in mind thank you all very much for watching us but there will be another broadcast in just about a half hour which going to have updates on of course the situation in Jerusalem and the ongoing war and ceasefire for hostage exchange in Gaza as well so definitely come back for that again one o'clock local time and until then you could also follow us on i24news.tv online for more stories and more coverage of the war till then thank you all so much for watching is in a state of war families completely done down in their beds we have no idea where is she as our soldiers are fighting on the front line but the general perception is something that certainly needs to to be fought as well in i24news seen by nearby soldiers as well as by an armed civilian israel's internal security minister itamar ben veer addressed the events of this morning and the security forces and civilians that put down the terrorists it is a difficult morning for all of us condolences to the family's speedy recovery for the wounded and a big hug to the heroes who saved lives here this event proves once again why we must not show weakness why it is only possible to talk with hamas through rifle sites only through war in hamas we fight this event illustrates another thing how important is the policy of delivering weapons despite the criticism i will continue with the policy of handing out weapons everywhere including to emergency units and civilians a weapon saves lives we see it time and time again wherever there are weapons citizens policemen soldiers save the situation and we have our correspondent pierre clochan there standing by in jerusalem at the scene of that attack pierre walk us through exactly what happened well i'm gonna ask you to play the interview which we did with yosef haim ohayon is an eyewitness of the terror attack and then i'll explain let's hear him first i pass by here every morning at this exact bus stop i stood here like every day i saw the car stopping by the station it seemed suspicious from the start the driver got out of the vehicle and pulled out a weapon i realized immediately that this is a terror attack miraculously moments before the shooting a large crowd that was in the bus stop went into a bus that drove away so many lives were saved today i regret not doing military service i'm still in shock i'm still shaking i'm tired and i just want to get back home right now the car of the terrorist was just here it was a white car they came out of the car and started shooting in this direction at the bus stop as you heard moments before many people that came out of the bus now you see there are ultra-orthodox cool girls that are now decorating the site of the murder in which three Israelis were killed ultra-orthodox and they're putting Israeli flags as well as some inscription and it says don't be afraid don't be afraid that's what it says now you have here the whole scene of the shooting it happened very quickly within seconds two reserve soldiers who were on their way back to the Gaza front they've had a leave of 12 hours only and they were on their way back they stopped they were here they shot at the two terrorists and killed them they had M16 a assault rifle and a pistol the two reservists has M16 assault and here and it seems that we have lost yeah we seem to have lost our connection with Pierre hold on I think we're about to re-establish that do you see me yes we are reconnected do you hear me yes okay the rampage affected people that were on that tree just here and a few moments ago a Zaka rescue worker tried to scrap pieces of flesh and blood that were stuck on the tree now this is because in Judaism you must not leave any piece of human flesh and blood on a scene of violence you have to purify the scene now the evacuation of the wounded there are four severely wounded one moderately and one lightly we're hospitalized between within half an hour because the rescue service headquarters are just minutes away by car from here they were evacuated to two hospitals the funeral is going to take place very quickly between one and two this afternoon of the three victims and you can see now the bus stop is bustling with life and people are still waiting for the buses and you can see the bus just here and the highway is open and the floor has been cleansed from the blood of the victim all that happened within a couple of hours after the terror attack well thank you very much for that view from the scene Pierre we will be of course coming back to you over the course of the day with updates on that site now for more though we are going to return to our studio where we have a discussion panel that consists of Colonel Olivier Raffewitz IDF spokesperson for international media as well as our senior editor Guy Azriel I'm going to open with you Guy because there's more information still on the attack what do we know of the perpetrators right so we do know the two perpetrators are of the same family both of them members or residents of the tour bahir neighborhood in east Jerusalem both of them holding blue Israeli IDs meaning that they really have free access to go anywhere they want in Israel there is no limitation they don't have to go through checkpoints etc from east Jerusalem into where they executed this attack as we could see they drove this car into that bus stop where they were able to get out open fire with an automatic weapon and and handgun very luckily and I think this is the main point here the very quick reaction of the soldiers that were there and as ended Israeli civilian really saved a lot of lives very sadly we have three victims here but the results could have been a lot more catastrophic unless these brave men confronted those terrorists really risking their lives instead of running away they have saved the lives of so many really again also emphasizing what we heard from national security minister Itamar Ben Gvir the fact that they were there and that they were armed this saves lives and and when we see that time and time again in Jerusalem in particular where you do have more presence of security personnel and that are able to stop these attacks and one more thing as we saw from Pierre there life is so quickly back to normal in Jerusalem sadly this city is so familiar with these terror attacks but life goes on and this is I think the message from Israel to these terrorists you do not stop life in Jerusalem the life continues Jerusalem is a city that has seen so many terror attacks over the past decades I myself as a journalist who's been there so many times a city that has seen so much suffering from the days of the second Intifada the major bombings in restaurants shooting attacks etc etc at the end of the day life goes on and this is the victory of Israel over terror life prevails I want to take a quick security assessment here with Olivia because we've seen so many attacks in the last year or so coming out of East Jerusalem it's always considered a hot spot extremely radicalized area and so many of them do have as Guy mentioned that blue Israeli citizenship ID is there any practical way to reduce the freedom of movement for terrorists there to prevent attacks like this like you have just heard by a guy I mean they're Israeli in Jerusalem for me it's Jerusalem but they have ID cards so there are like residents of Jerusalem but there is for now a long time a penetration of Islamism Islamic groups more particularly Hamas and Islamic jihad in these villages in these areas in these neighborhood on what we are now facing it actually the I would say the expansion of Hamas influence not only in Gaza but also outside and this attack is actually Hamas oriented Hamas linked and it's approved that we are facing Hamas threat all over and we cannot actually we cannot prevent and stop freedom of movement because it will be counterproductive Now we know that Hamas has been trying their hardest to open another front in the West Bank to take pressure off of Gaza the same way they've been pushing his Bullah to open another front in earnest to take pressure off of Gaza as well is it possible to stop the West Bank from flaring up the way we're seeing The answer is yes that way for now almost two months more particularly the Shin Bet and the IDF are carrying out every day but mostly every night a series of arrest operations sometimes very difficult very sensitive mostly in the Elbrun area and also in Jenin and Nablus in the northern part of Samaria I think we are now talking about almost 2,000 people who have been arrested connected to Hamas there are most of them preventive arrest operation but it is the only way to stop or to prevent further attacks all around And that's certainly a way of stopping Hamas operatives or people linked with Hamas operatives but if we look at some of the polling that we've seen coming out of the West Bank 89% of West Bank Palestinians supports the Hamas armed wing 84% of West Bank Palestinians support the massacres of October 7th when you're facing that sort of situation is it even enough to stop Hamas linked operatives or there are so many threats of lone wolves there that how do you deal with it? I will tell you something we don't deal with surveys always I don't know numbers we deal with facts and for the time being we cannot change the mind of people it's not the Israeli intention of course but we can actually prevent people to act against Israel that's what we are doing and in this matter I believe that the Israeli army and mostly the Shin Bet together are doing a great incredible job And before we continue I want some of our viewers to get a more on the ground look at the attack of this morning earlier we did speak to a first responder and here was the immediate aftermath that he witnessed What happened this morning on this very difficult morning here in the entrance to Jerusalem is a car that you can see right behind me there came up to the bus stop which unfortunately is known for it has known a number of terror attacks in the past stopped at the bus stop terrorists came out of the car and started shooting automatic weapons that people waiting to go to work or wherever they were going this morning killing two and injuring another eight or nine people on scene And what was the response how fast were emergency services able to make the scene and what were the immediate needs So the first call that came over the radio was of our volunteers of ours who live across the street literally coming running out of their houses to the sounds of the automatic gunshots running across the street immediately saying that there are a number of people injured on different levels of severity within I would say a minute and a half two minutes at max there were a number of medics EMTs paramedics on scene already treating the patients and then assisting to transport them to the hospitals for definitive care unfortunately there were those that didn't survive We hear that there are still five people in serious to possibly critical condition What do we know about the injuries and what can we say about their prognosis So we I don't know to say at this point about their prognosis and their injuries are our severe injuries from multiple gunshots to different parts of the body I can't go into too much detail but a lot of a lot of firearm was shot over here and we're all praying for them to survive The scene on the ground now is it considered secure is the incident considered over The incident at this point is considered over Yes absolutely they're already now starting to clear away the vehicle of the terrorists from here and of course the police are doing the work Once the terrorists were taken out of course police took extra measures to do an initial assessment of the area that there aren't additional terrorists but otherwise there wasn't any significant threat once the terrorists were shot by the soldier that happened to be here at the bus stop and the civilian And we're going to move from the potential front of the West Bank to the main front in Gaza where a fragile ceasefire still holds at least for now that despite Hamas violating the terms of the deal yet again it was renewed this morning just 20 minutes before expiry Hamas will return only eight hostages today that they abducted during the October 7th massacre in return they buy themselves another day to live as well as 30 more convicted terrorists freed from Israeli prisons and more fuel entering the Gaza Strip which Hamas will use at least some portion of to fuel its war capabilities Hamas at the very last minute attempted to alter the terms of the deal again offering three dead bodies alongside seven live hostages for continued ceasefire Israel rejected this originally the terms were 10 live women and children per day of ceasefire the terrorists though claim they don't have any women and children left but Israeli intelligence says Hamas has at least 15 more to give Israel has been given a list of 10 more names today and has accepted the terms though it's worth noting that Hamas released two Russian Israeli citizens last night as a gesture to Vladimir Putin who was a key ally of Hamas's backer Iran but now the terrorists are holding those two releases against today's count which has reduced it to eight this allows we hear more stories of cruel abuse of the hostages coming from the families captives that were beaten regularly with cables children forced to watch videos of the massacres and atrocities at gunpoint and more now we are going to return to our studio for some more discussion I want to open with you Olivier because we're seeing some signs we're seeing some rubblings Israeli officials saying the ceasefire is clearly reaching its end Hamas changing the deals violating the terms at the last minute with these changes of the list and Hamas now telling their armed brigades to be ready for imminent action does this mean that we are looking at the imminent collapse of the ceasefire now I need to be very cautious when I'm answering you right now there is right now not a ceasefire but a pause a humanitarian pause it's very different the war is still here against Hamas but there is a pause and the goal of it is to receive our hostages back home alive that's why for now six days six times so now it will be the seventh time this day today we are actually applying this pause if this pause is over the Israeli government the sole responsible for it will decide that the pause is over and that the combats are back against Hamas the army is actually ready to go back to fight against Hamas in the Gaza Strip all over where there is a need to and we never said that we are not ready for that we are just now actually adapted we'll adapt ourselves to this pause we are in a kind of I would say deployment according to the pause but ready for any new development obviously Hamas has used the pause to re-fortify their positions re-establish their chains of commands what was Israel able to accomplish as far as combat readiness during the pause the readiness is at the top top level the forces are at the top level ready for for moving where the commander was the the orders will tell them to move to but the intelligence also was aware about what's going on in the Hamas side but I want also to clarify the decisions made by the Israeli government and more particularly the war cabinet were actually taken with the presence of the chief general staff the Shin Bet and the Mossad all of them agreed on this pause according to different issues and they also adapt themselves to the pause to be respected by us and it was respected by us until now because we want back our hostages if the pause is over we will be ready to move and to continue what has been started for almost two months war against Hamas in order to destroy to dismantle to finish the Hamas regime military capabilities in the Gaza Strip I want to turn to Guy now because we've been discussing the hostages all day and we need to discuss some of Hamas' vile media manipulations during the hostage crisis that is of course one of the most heart-wrenching stories in Israel the story of Fier Bebas a 10-month-old baby held by no longer even Hamas apparently passed off to another terror group in the Strip along with the rest of their family now Hamas claiming that they were killed in an Israeli airstrike we know that Hamas has made many such lies before but we have to address what's becoming a major viral story in Israel what what do we make of all these claims yes it's perhaps the most sensitive story since the start of this war as this family and particularly the young baby fear has become the symbol of this war a symbol of the brutality of Hamas of the crimes against humanity committed by Hamas on that October 7th this young baby taken in his mother's arms together with his brother Ariel four years old into Gaza Israel has been awaiting their release since the start of this hostage release deal that was the first name on everybody's mouths and everybody's minds to see them finally back in Israel alive and well yesterday Hamas announced that they have lost their lives Hamas claiming that that was a result of an Israeli airstrike obviously Hamas has been caught lying so many times when it comes to the Israeli hostages and their well-being nonetheless Israel announced yesterday it had updated the family on the statement of Hamas and it is working for and on validating or getting more information about the status of the family here we can see the picture of baby fear bebas who was nine months old when he was kidnapped by Hamas he's 10 months now hopefully we'll be celebrating 11 months in Israel after he's released nonetheless this is part of the psychological warfare of Hamas in one other case at least the Palestinian militants the terrorist in Gaza have announced the death of another Israeli hostage a one that was eventually released alive a couple of weeks later we certainly hope that in this case again Hamas is lying to the family and to the Israeli public and that this poor family will be found alive and will be released back home in Israel absolutely I want to turn to you Olivier because ultimately what does Hamas gain with this manipulation one by simply releasing Bebas as part of a hostage deal they could buy them to the house another day Hamas is by definition brittle terror army and they have their own DNA to be what they are and don't forget that they want something they want the full destruction annihilation of the Jewish state no compromise with Israel nothing so in this war there is also I would say a war into the war a psychological war they are actually trying to to undermine the Israeli morale of the population by playing with our nerves by playing with our emotions and of course to play with bodies like today they said that they are going to bring back three bodies without giving names without giving identity it's horrible it's horrible from the very beginning so we have to be very strong very firm not to play according to what they want us to be but to your question I would say that don't look for something that they want to achieve because it is another mind it is another system of of thought and Hamas is actually playing according to their rules just one point if I may yesterday during the process of releasing the hostages from the Hamas to the ICRC did you see what happened thousands of Palestinians actually with Hamas were around and it was almost lynched during this process with terrible claims of I don't know of hostile words of style shouting all this atmosphere of terror of a criminal terror of psychological war is part of Hamas so we'll have to discuss later the strategies of how to fight back against that psychological war but I do want to bring in another angle here our defense correspondent Jonathan Regev is at Schneider Children's Medical Center where he can update us about the condition of the hostages but before that I want to address another revelation that's come out in the last few minutes and that is the identification of another body from the Nova Music Festival of fear at Sarfati who was originally presumed taken hostage now identified as dead it is another one of those heart-wrenching issues that we've seen across the entire war and this sort of uncertainty even two months later is also hanging over at the hostage situation that's ongoing as it goes Jonathan yes and that is why it is very difficult to give concrete numbers because yes we heard all along from the IDFS spokesperson and numbers of families who've been notified that their loved ones are in Gaza we heard numbers such as 239 236 is one time even 241 but the truth is that there are also people that are defined as missing they might be in Gaza maybe even alive but they might not be in Gaza might be dead not exactly clear we're hearing more and more stories of bodies being found and identified every day and this is just one of them we still have a number of people that are defined as missing this name that you brought up just one of them of course these are not happy these are not happy news for families of course the fact that their loved one was killed but it does give them a certain closure of families that have been living with uncertainty for two years so it's a very difficult issue not only hostages but also people missing it's definitely a terrible situation all around briefly though of the people that we do get back how are they doing mostly well we're speaking here of four people that were brought to Schneider Hospital overnight physically they're doing quite well this is according to preliminary examination they came in very late let's remember the whole process last night was delayed by a few hours at least three hours so they got here very late the initial assessment of the four people that were brought here to Schneider is that at least physically they're in a good condition that's good to know that there is the physical recovery at least Jonathan the mental recovery is going to be a much longer road ahead thank you very much for that update from the field there letting us know how the hostages are doing on their return now with that said we are just about out of time here so I want to thank our in-studio discussion panel made of Olivia Rafferwitz as well as Guy Azriel for helping break down the situation in Gaza and helping us understand the situation in Jerusalem and with that in mind thank you all very much for watching us but there will be another broadcast in just about a half hour which going to have updates on of course the situation in Jerusalem and the ongoing war and ceasefire for hostage exchange in Gaza as well so definitely come back for that again one o'clock local time and it's


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