It is therefore time for question period, the leader of Her Majesty's loyal opposition. Mr. Speaker, my question is for... Stop the clock. Since you decided you want to start, we're starting with warnings. And I will immediately use them. Please start. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Energy. Yesterday the government had an opportunity to apologize for their latest attack on the... Minister of Finance has warned. Mr. Speaker, clearly the government doesn't like to talk about the Auditor General's report. Now, instead of doing the right thing and supporting our motion yesterday, they voted it down. I want to give the Liberals another chance. To the Minister of Energy, will the government apologize to the Auditor General for what was a blatant attempt to discredit her office? Minister of Energy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Please to rise today. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, I remember March 2nd very well. That was the day on which our government announced the Fair Hydro Plan, which has lowered electricity bills by an average of 25% for all residential customers and is half a million small businesses and farms. That was 237... The member from Huron, Bruce, is warned. I mean, sorry. Bruce... Well, I'm thinking Bruce. I'm a little backwards today. Bruce Gray-Ohn Sound is warned. That was 237 days ago, Mr. Speaker. And shortly after that, the leader of the official opposition promised to release his own energy plan sometime in the coming weeks. But here we are, Mr. Speaker. Over a half a year later, almost halfway through the fall session, and in those 237 days, a lot has happened, Mr. Speaker, but nothing has happened on that side. That's the party that should be apologizing for... Thank you. Can you see it, please? Supplementary. Mr. Speaker, again to the minister, the question was about the way this government has discredited the Auditor General. The Auditor General said the way they're doing this hydro scheme will cost on tarones $4 billion more than necessary. And I get that it's the Liberal talking points today to applaud the Minister of Energy, but what we're talking about is $4 billion that Ontario families are going to have to pay because of this government. And rather than acknowledge the Auditor General's report and say, we're going to try to fix this, they discredit the Auditor General. Mr. Speaker, 10 times out of 10, if I chose who to believe, the Auditor General or this Liberal government, I'm going to choose the Auditor General. So I will ask the Department of Energy, apologize to the Auditor General for the way his office, his ministry has discredited her office. Thank you. Can you see the face? Can you see the face? Thank you. Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We continue to work with the Auditor General. We, as the President of the Treasury Board says, 99.9% of the time, we always agree with the Auditor General and implement her recommendations. In this instance, Mr. Speaker, we agree that this is an accounting dispute. We have KPMG, we have E&Y, we have Deloitte. All of these peers of the Auditor General agree. What we have brought forward, Mr. Speaker, is a plan that is going to actually reduce rates by 25% and meet the Canadian public sector accounting standards, Mr. Speaker. But I know the point is, Mr. Speaker, that the Conservatives are refusing, or even unable to come up with any ideas or a plan of their own, Mr. Speaker. We've helped families by lowering their rates by 25%. We've helped families by raising the minimum wage to $15. We protect tenants from unfair rent increases. What do they have on that side, Mr. Speaker? Zero. Mr. Speaker, again to the Minister of Energy, I'm glad that the Minister is now saying he agrees with the Auditor General, has said their energy policy is to house the cards, that after the election, energy rates are going to skyrocket. The Auditor General has said they make up their own rules. The Auditor General has said they're going to blow $4 billion unnecessarily. So if you're all of a sudden agreeing with the Auditor General, how are you going to fix that problem and not simply discredit her? Mr. Speaker, yesterday it was written in an article that the Minister of Energy went so far, the Ministry went so far as to personally contact journalists the day before her report was released to say the Auditor General's interpretation is flawed. Calling the day before the report to discredit the Auditor General, that's not working with the Auditor General, that's attacking the Auditor General. So once again, will the government do the right thing and apologize to the Auditor General? Mr. Speaker, please. Mr. Speaker, please. Thank you. Minister? Again, Mr. Speaker, we continue to work with the Auditor General on an ongoing basis. We will continue as a government to be open and transparent with the Auditor General and with all independent officers of the House, Mr. Speaker. It is important for us to continue to have that working dialogue as the President of the Treasury Board has said over and over again, Mr. Speaker. We will continue to do so. This is an accounting dispute, Mr. Speaker. We believe, and so do her peers and so do all of the bureaucracy accountants, all believe that the way that we have done this by keeping the assets of the electricity system in that sector, Mr. Speaker, meets with the Canadian public sector accounting standards, we'll continue to work forward, Mr. Speaker. We'll continue to advocate for the people of this province, unlike the opposition that has nothing on offer and never will, Mr. Speaker. Good question. The Leader of the Opposition. Mr. Speaker, again to the Minister of Energy, the Liberals, according to the Auditor General, have been accused of making up their own accounting rules. Let me repeat, making up their own accounting rules. What worries me is what else they may be hiding, Mr. Speaker. They seem to be making up their own record or tension rules on the fly. They certainly don't seem to be keen on releasing emails to the Auditor General. We are still waiting on those, so here is another chance. Since they don't want to apologize to the Auditor General for this blatant attempt to discredit the independent legislative officer, at the very least will they do what they said they'd do, be transparent, release the email, stop hiding 99% of those emails. Will they do the right thing and release the emails requested? Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is our government's commitment to continue to work with the Auditor General, to continue to be open and transparent, and we're going to continue to cooperate with their office. Now, it's important for me to say, Mr. Speaker, that I've just been informed by my ministry that as of Monday, October 23rd, the ministry has provided 30,126 records to the Auditor General. That's in addition to the 1,200 from the ISO, the hundreds from OPG, the over 3,000 from the Ontario financing authority, the Treasury Board, I know the President of the Treasury Board and the Treasury Board have provided thousands of records, Mr. Speaker, and additionally, the ministry has told me that we're continuing to release additional information to the Auditor General, and we're doing this, Mr. Speaker, because we understand the importance of providing the auditor with everything that she's asked for, and the ministry will continue to regularly provide the Auditor General with additional responsive documents each week until this process is finished, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Mr. Speaker, again to the Minister of Energy. Yesterday, the Minister of Energy said, I quote, he doesn't expect to tick or tape parade for how the Liberals handled the hydrofile. Well, that's a stretch. That's certainly no surprise. They can't line up for a parade because they're lining up for food banks right now in Ontario and unemployment insurance. People can't afford to pay their hydrobills. People are living in energy poverty, and right now the Liberals... Minister of Agriculture is warned. Finish, please. Mr. Speaker, right now the Liberals laugh when I say people are living in energy poverty, but the more I travel in this province, the more I hear examples of people who are struggling, beyond struggling to pay their hydrobills. It's not a laughing matter. And this latest $4 billion is just a cherry on the top of their hydro crisis, a crisis that you created, a crisis this government created. So my question is, when are we going to get meaningful hydro-relief, not more spent? When are we actually going to get meaningful hydro-relief for the families that you're laughing at right now? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It's obvious they'll never get any relief under that party that has no idea what to do and no plan, Mr. Speaker. It's ridiculous that they continue to come up and shake their fist and talk about doing something for the people of Ontario, but instead they vote against real relief. Real relief, Mr. Speaker, is 25% off every single household in this province. They voted against it. Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, we announced $100 million of Fortability Fund. This is going to help tens of thousands of people in this province. You know who voted against that, Mr. Speaker? That member and that party. You know what, Mr. Speaker? We know that the only people that are lining up to see something are their members to find out what they're going to do. They have no idea, Mr. Speaker. We have talked about things that we have been doing in the 237 days that they've offered nothing. We are introducing a minimum wage increase, Mr. Speaker. They voted against. Prescriptions, all prescriptions for people 25 and under, Mr. Speaker, they voted against. Thank you. Can I stand? You sit, Minister. Final supplementary. Mr. Speaker, again to the Minister of Energy, deleting emails is not a plan. Borrowing is not a plan. Hiding debt is not a plan. The relief that Ontario families want, they are not getting. And the government's spin about this latest $4 billion they're wasting, that spin doesn't add up. The government continues to tout 14 firms support this liberal scheme. What they failed to mention is that the government hired those firms. They contract out to get the answers they want. They are beholden to the government. The Auditor General is not. She isn't in the pocket of the liberals. We get the truth from the Auditor General. Well, the taxpayers foot the bills for millions for liberal spin. So, Mr. Speaker, my question is very specific and hopefully I can get an answer. How many dollars will you spend to fight the Auditor General's report? How many dollars did you put in to this big spin? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What's appalling is the leader of the opposition will sully the names of world-class organizations like KPMG, like Deloitte, like E&Y. I know all conservatives from the past are rolling over in their grave, Mr. Speaker, at that party. You know, at the end of the day, Mr. Speaker, we've ensured that we've talked with world-class organizations that have looked at our accounting standards, Mr. Speaker. The government standards are prepared in accordance with the public sector accounting standards and will continue to follow these standards for the transactions resulting from the Fair Hydro Plan in 2017 and 2018 and in future years, Mr. Speaker. In relation to rate-regulated accounting, PSAC is silent and does not prohibit the use of rate-regulated accounting. Maybe that party should actually do a little research and talk with some of these firms before they accuse them of what he just did, Mr. Speaker. That is shameful. Thank you. New question to members from London Central. My question is to the Acting Premier. Every day, we hear horror stories from vulnerable seniors and their families about what they are going through in homes across the province. Conditions are putting our seniors at risk and we have a wait list in Ontario that tops 32,000 people. Now we hear that there are as many as 14 homes in Toronto looking to pick up and move. Can the Acting Premier tell us since the Minister of Health has to personally approve any proposal for a home to relocate, will she promise right now that none of these homes will be allowed to leave the city? Thank you. Minister of Health, long-term care. Minister of Health, long-term care. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We appreciate the hard work that the operators of our long-term care homes across this province do. The not-for-profit homes, the municipal homes, the for-profit homes, collectively, they are absolutely committed to providing the highest quality care for their residents. That includes here in Toronto. Mr. Speaker, I can say categorically that we have not received any applications from the 20 long-term care homes that were referenced in the media over the past couple of days. We have not received, the Ministry has not received, I have not received any applications or proposals that entertain or suggest or would even imply that beds and homes in Toronto would be anywhere else but in Toronto, Mr. Speaker. And we have very good examples of how successful redevelopment is happening in the City of Toronto and I'm happy to speak to that in the supplementary. Thank you, supplementary. The well-being of 1,800 seniors is up in the air right now. Families are worried they may not be able to visit their parents or grandparents as often as they need. Seniors have loved ones, friends, doctors and many other ties to the cities. They need the Premier's word that no home in Toronto will be allowed to relocate away from their neighbourhoods under her watch. Will the acting Premier give residents of long-term care and their families that comfort? Thank you, Minister. Well, Mr. Speaker, as I said yesterday, not only have I received no applications but I personally in writing have to approve every new redevelopment whether that is even within the same community in the same location, Mr. Speaker, but certainly I need to approve it in writing. And certainly when it comes to moving or any proposals to moving that beds from a location, the first step that I take upon review and with the advice of the ministry and back to the community to have a fulsome community conversation and consultation overseen by the ministry and by the Linn so we can have a clear understanding of the importance of those beds of that home in that community. I have worked tirelessly across the province not just in Toronto to ensure that those beds and those homes do remain in the communities where they are and I will continue to do that, Mr. Speaker.  I'm sure the Premier and her Minister of Health have had many, many meetings with home directors, staff long-term care associations and families with loved ones in care. They must have heard many times by many different people and not just opposition members like myself about the state of our long-term care system. Has the Premier just chosen to ignore these concerns or is she that out of touch with the needs of our vulnerable seniors in the province of Ontario? Mr. Speaker Well, Mr. Speaker here's who's out of touch it's that party. Because Mr. Speaker, here they go again I was absolutely categorical yesterday in saying no applications whatsoever come forward to the ministry or to me that suggests anything of what they are doing. They are fear mongering once again instilling fear in the residents and the families of those long-term care homes and I certainly hope Mr. Speaker that they are not suggesting that those homes should not be redeveloped because those homes need to be redeveloped to provide that highest quality of care. I have to approve every single bed transfer home redevelopment I am working tirelessly across the province including Toronto but I am not fear mongering and I'm not suggesting as they are that these individuals these residents should be afraid because they can be assured that I will work to maintain those beds here. Thank you Mr. Speaker do you see the face do you see the face thank you a new question from London Fanshawe when the health minute gets that defensive you know you've hit a nerve Speaker and so the member will identify who the question is for please speaker but I will speak up to the acting premier. Long-term care homes in ker on show and across the province are struggling partially because of the Liberallau governments failure Ten years ago, the Liberals promised to update these beds, but 2014 they have only completed 5,000. The Minister of Health confirmed yesterday that 13,500 beds have now been redeveloped. Does the Premier plan to keep her Liberal government's promise and complete the other 21,500 by December 31st? Or were the 35,000 beds just another stretch goal? Thank you. Is the Minister of Health long-term care? Well, Mr. Speaker, we are absolutely committed to redeveloping 30,000 beds across this province. We have already redeveloped 13,500 of those beds, and we're working with organizations such as RECI here in Toronto to give that example where they are redeveloping a Toronto long-term care home in downtown Toronto. In fact, in the West Donlands, not-for-profit in downtown Toronto, a new redevelopment, 220 beds, a specialized unit for those with Alzheimer's and other forms of dementia, a whole host of supportive care surrounding that, right across the road from the wire, Mr. Speaker. It is a fantastic example of what can be done when proponents and operators work together with the Linn and the Ministry of Health for redevelopment, including in downtown Toronto. The Premier's stubborn refusal to even consider expanding the scope of the wet law for inquiry into long-term care means that broken promises like this one can be swept under the rug. I guess that that's convenient for the Premier when an election is on the horizon, but seniors in the province deserve better. Seniors deserve a government committed to finding and fixing each and every issue that threatens their well-being. When will the Premier show Ontario seniors and their loved ones the respect they deserve and agree to expand the scope of the wet law for inquiry? Well, Mr. Speaker, this, let me do this, redevelop beds, 13,500 in Ontario already, including 63 at Chateau Gardens in London, 170 at Extendacare in London, 60 at Versa Care Elmwood Place in London, 243 at Deerness Home in London, 141 at McCormick Home in London, in fact an additional 19 at McCormick Home in London, 157 at McGarrow Place in London, 32 at Kensington Village in London, an additional 80 at Kensington in London, and an additional 16 and an additional 32 at Kensington different phases in London, Mr. Speaker. There's a long list here of 13,500, but I hope the member would agree. I don't think she's suggesting either we should redevelop it or that we're not redeveloping in her city because we are. Yes, two final supplementary. Speaker, in the long list of numbers, the minister forgot to add 32,000 people waiting on the way. 21,500 beds have yet to be redeveloped by this government. There is a severe shortage of frontline staff. We've heard horror stories of neglect and abuse regularly from every corner of this province, and there are 14 homes in Toronto that may leave the city. If a broad inquiry that will find and fix the systemic issues in our long-term care homes isn't what the Premier thinks we need, what is her plan to make sure that our parents, our grandparents are able to live their golden years with dignity? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Minister. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Toronto. 192 redeveloped beds at Kipling Acres, Mr. Speaker. 98 redeveloped beds at True Davidson Acres. 108 redeveloped beds at Copernicus Lodge. 89 redeveloped beds again at True Davidson Acres. 88 redeveloped beds at Vermont Square. 174 redeveloped beds at Chester Village. 29 additional beds at Chester Village in Toronto. What the NDP is doing here is their fair mongering, their inciting fear among residents of our long-term care homes, and that's not to say we don't have specific instances where improvements need to be made, and we are addressing those through inspections and restrictions on admission and other important punitive measures, but to suggest that the situation is anything close to what they are is reprehensible, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Minister of Health. According to Life Sciences on Tarot, the innovative pharma sector invests over $1 billion in research and development each year. They contribute over $3.8 billion to the Canadian economy each year and approximately 45% of that investment is directed within Ontario. Life Sciences Ontario sector report from 2015 noted the pharmaceutical sector contributes 12,800 indirect jobs and 7,700 direct jobs in Ontario. We understand that these investments are currently at risk. There are impacts from the proposed federal changes to the Patent and Medicines Pricing Review Board that could directly impact the research investment in associated jobs in Ontario. So my question, Mr. Speaker, is what is the province doing to ensure these investments and jobs stay in Ontario? Have they contacted their federal counterparts? And what assurances do we have for these jobs in Ontario? Thank you. Minister of Health, long-term care. Well, Mr. Speaker, I know the Minister for Economic Development and Growth will want to take the supplementary, but on this issue of pharma, I want to say that we had last week our Federal Provincial Territorial Health Minister's meeting. And due to the leadership of our Premier and the leadership of Ontario, we were able to have discussions, fulsome discussions, on the Thursday and on the Friday. In fact, breakfast as well on the Friday morning that we're wholly about the issue of pharma and about creating a strong pharmaceutical industry, but most importantly, steps to take for national pharma care. And in fact, all health ministers, every province, every territory, and the Federal Health Minister agreed now to get down to the work to scope out what a national pharma care program would look like in terms of timelines and costs and the framework, Mr. Speaker. I'm very proud of that work. Thank you. You see it, please? You see it, please? Thank you. Supplementary. Mr. Speaker, my hope was that the question I asked could be answered. A different question was clearly, maybe someone misheard what I said, but Mr. Speaker, what I was asking about is the proposed federal changes to the Patent and Medicines Pricing Review Board. 7,700 direct jobs in Ontario. This is significant investment. These are important, well-paying jobs we want to protect in the province of Ontario. So again to the Minister, during these discussions they had with the health ministers and the federal government, did you get assurances that these proposals, what accommodation is there going to be for Ontario? How do we protect the jobs here? And Mr. Speaker, if you're not concerned about the new federal regulations, explain to this House why these changes aren't going to affect the province of Ontario. These are jobs we have to protect here. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We agree that we need to protect those jobs here and we agree that we need to stand up for jobs in our innovation economy. Mr. Speaker, that's why this government works so hard when Mars was having challenges to invest in Mars. And guess what, Mr. Speaker, what kind of help did we have from the other side? They tried to shoot down every effort we ever made to build up our innovation economy in this province at Mars. Mr. Speaker, just last week we announced something that's very, very important to this sector. The most important thing we can do for our innovation sector, Mr. Speaker, is to build that pipeline of young talent that we're providing in this province. We're providing those companies with the best talent anywhere in North America today. Last week we announced that we're going to be extending by 25% the talent available to this sector in the STEM area, Mr. Speaker. We look for it. And what have we heard from the party opposite? Absolutely nothing, Mr. Speaker. They're nowhere on energy. They're nowhere on the minimum wage. And they're nowhere when it comes to the new... Thank you. New question from Toronto Danforth. Thank you, Speaker. My question to the acting Premier. This government keeps insisting that it must spend an extra $4 billion on a complicated alternative financing scheme because it is the only way to keep rate payer and taxpayer costs separate. But nearly 20 years ago, the government established the Ontario Electricity Financial Corporation. It was established as a way to separate taxpayer and rate payer funds. The problem for this government is the OEFC debt stays on the government's books. And this government wants to keep deficits and debt off the books to make the Liberal Party look better. Will the government admit that it is wasting $4 billion in rate payer money for no other purpose than to help the Liberal Party? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm very pleased to rise and talk about the policy decision that we made as a government. Mr. Speaker, we all know that the fair hydro plan is actually reducing the rates by 25% for every single household in this province and for 500,000 small businesses and farms. Mr. Speaker, that policy decision made sure that we actually looked at where the assets, where the borrowing was coming from, and then made sure that the borrowing stayed within the electricity system. We actually did pull costs from the rate base and put it on to the tax base, Mr. Speaker. Those were the social programs. The affordability fund, which we announced yesterday, which is a $100 million fund, which is going to help tens of thousands of more people in this province with their electricity bills, Mr. Speaker. We're going to continue to work for the people of Ontario and continue to provide the relief that we know that they wanted and asked for. Thank you. Supplementary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again, to the acting Premier. Mr. Speaker, the government could have used normal public sector accounting to achieve exactly the same policy goals, and it would have cost rate payers $4 billion less. It could have used the OEFC to administer the program and keep rate payer and taxpayer funds separate. The only reason to use this $4 billion alternative financing trick is to hide the true cost of the government's hydro-borrowing scheme from the public. The only reason. Will the government help rate payers instead of the Liberal Party and stop this needless waste of $4 billion today? Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In regards to the OEFC, it is still involved, and as the member may or may not know, during our recent transaction to broaden the ownership of Hydro-1, it paid down OEFC debt in order to again accommodate our work. Furthermore, we inherited a stranded deck of almost $28 billion from the opposition, which was not a marketable opportunity, unlike what is happening here in this instance. And Mr. Speaker, as we proceed forward, we are taking a proportionate amount off the tax base, and we've taken a proportionate amount off the rate base, as is normal, under these circumstances. Mr. Speaker, OEFC is engaged, and it's doing its part. Thank you. Thank you. New question to the member from Barrie. Thank you, Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Energy. This spring, our government took a big step forward in ensuring that our clean and reliable electricity is affordable to everyone in Ontario. The cost of electricity had become a concern for many communities, and I know the people in Ontario were eager to see the government take action. The Fair Hydro Plan, passed last session, is a 25% reduction on average for all households in this province. No loopholes, no exceptions, just the significant relief for this important household expense. But that wasn't all. The government also included new and expanded support programs for low-income Ontarians, as well as a program to help those with the highest delivery charges in Ontario. Additionally, we introduced a new program called the Affordability Fund. Could the Minister please update us on what this program does, and when it will begin to support Ontario? Thank you, Minister of Energy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to thank the member from Barrie for that question, and of course, Mr. Speaker, for her tireless work for her constituents in that area, Mr. Speaker. I'm delighted to update the members on the launch of the Affordability Fund, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, I was in Hamilton to announce this exciting new program. The Affordability Fund is designed to help people improve in energy efficiency of their homes while reducing their bills and their carbon footprint, Mr. Speaker. The new $100 million fund will support the free installation of energy-saving LED light bulbs, power bars, improved insulation, energy-efficient air conditioners, refrigerators, and many more pieces of equipment, Mr. Speaker. The Affordability Fund is designed to help people who do not qualify for low-income conservation programs and who are unable to undertake energy efficiency improvements without support. This fund, managed by the Independent Trust, is being supported by Hydra One, and I want to thank that leadership team for their vision. We're going to continue to focus on helping people in Ontario. Thank you, supplementary. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you, Minister, for the answer. This program is welcome news for the families in my riding who need extra help with their electricity bills. I'm pleased that our government is taking action to support those that don't have the means to pay for household upgrades. In addition to cutting residential hydro bills by 25% on average through the fair hydro plan, we are delivering even more savings to Ontario families through the Affordability Fund. I heard you say many times in this House that for every dollar spent on conservation programs, we save $2. That's a very wise investment. By providing electricity customers with the tools to improve the energy efficiency of their homes, we're helping reduce pressure on their pocketbooks and protecting the environment. Minister, can you please explain how electricity consumers can sign up for this program? The good question. Electricity consumers can find out if they are eligible for the program by going to the program's website, affordabilityfund.org. On this website, electricity consumers can see what support they may be eligible for and to sign up for this program, Mr. Speaker. Whether you rent your own, live in a house or an apartment, you may qualify for more savings on your electricity bill. Electricity bill savings for households participating in the program will obviously depend, Mr. Speaker, on the types of measures installed, but a home energy kit with two LED light bulbs and a power bar can help save about $10, Mr. Speaker. Energy efficient refrigerator can help save about $90 in annual electricity costs. I encourage all members of the constituents who are looking to make energy efficiency upgrades at home who might not have the disposable income to afford these upgrades to check out the website and see if they're eligible. Our government has a plan to make sure that everybody in Ontario has the opportunity to share in the growth of our economy, and measures like this plan and the Fair Hydro Plan make it more fair, Mr. Speaker. Good question. The member from Haldeman, Norfolk. To the Minister of Natural Resources and Forestry, two years ago I contacted your office and the Petroleum Division regarding a Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry Natural Gas Relief Well along Big Creek. Ian and Kim Grant from Silver Hill are in the gallery today, and they were notified that this relief well was releasing hydrogen sulfide and toxic water into Big Creek, and it had to be capped. Apparently, the well was capped in the 1960s, so the ramifications of this goes back five decades. Now, pressure built up over two years with another well erupting this June on the grant's property, plus another well down the road after MNRF assured the grants and my office that they would be monitoring the problem. The grants have suffered damage to their business, their property, possibly their health. Minister, why has it taken so long to add? Thank you. Thank you very much, Speaker, and thank you to the member for the question, and I want to start off by saying that public health and public safety is really our governments and our Ministry's sole focus in this area. We know that there are abandoned wells along the shores of Lake Erie, for instance, and in the other areas that need recapping, so I know that the place that the member is talking about, we were notified early on. We expedited the process to ensure that Ministry officials were there to provide advice to the municipality and ensured that the well was being capped. The Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry always can provide technical advice to support any municipality. We'll be continuing to work with the municipal control group to assess the situation and determine the next steps. We again want to ensure the public that public safety is my Ministry's top priority. Thank you. Supplementary. I'll back to the Minister. It was two years going on, five decades, really, the photo action in August. Norfolk County and the Hall of the Norfolk Health Unit stepped in. They closed roads. They evacuated the grants. They evacuated five other families in the area. Finally, the wells have been capped. But the question is, what is the Minister doing to ensure history does not repeat itself? Again, what about these environmental impacts, possible health effects? Will you compensate Norfolk County? Importantly, and again, for loss of business, for damage to plant and equipment, health, why won't you compensate Kim and Ian Grant? Thank you very much, Speaker. And again, thank you for the question. We continue to work with the municipality and the local health units. But I do understand how distressing it is for individuals to have to be either evacuated from their home or have impacts to their businesses or their homes because of that. Recently, we continue to look at areas across, areas where there are potential wells that will need to be capped. In the coming months, my Ministry will be reaching out to municipalities to discuss the planning and the emergency management scenarios related to petroleum hazards and risks. This is a multi-government approach, and we continue to provide technical advice in these situations. The education and outreach work will help to clarify rules and responsibilities to allow municipalities to plan ahead by better understanding the risks. So we will continue to provide that advice. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. My question is to the acting Premier. The Government talks a lot about investing in child care, however, current policy and promises are not backed up by action. Case in point, organisations like Al Child Care Services in Waterloo Region are left asking, where's the money? Al is opening a new child care centre in the Government of Ontario promise to pay for the capital costs, including furniture and equipment. Al has now been told by this Government that there isn't enough money for the furniture or the equipment. Child care spaces in my community are at risk because of chronic underfunding and families are left to pay the price through higher fees, child care fees. Will the acting Premier commit to providing the promised funding to Al Child Care Services in Waterloo Region? Thank you, the Minister of Early Years and Child Care. Mr. Speaker, responsible for early years in child care. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the member opposite for this important question. Speaker, I want you to know that absolutely we are doing everything we can to make sure that we are transforming the way we deliver child care. And part of that promise and that pledge is to make sure we're moving funding forward. So right now we have increased funding. We are now moving funding forward to $1.4 billion when it comes to operating costs. In addition, we've moved forward with an extra $200 million. We have also moved forward and are taking applications right now from $1.6 billion in capital expenditures and costs. So we are building actual spaces. But what I'm trying to say is that the money is moving forward. We don't directly fund child care centers. What we do is fund municipalities and we leave those decisions to the local district service managers to decide where that money goes and where the allocations go. And so I would be more than happy to look into this instance of what is going on. But I think it would be advisable for the group to loop in with a local district manager. Again, to the action Premier, people in this province, whether they are college faculty or early childhood educators deserve equal pay for equal work. In Ontario, two ECEs with the same education and the same qualification can receive vastly different wages. If they work for a school board, they can make up to $30 an hour. But if they choose to work in a licensed community child care, they may make as little as $11.25 an hour. Many ECEs don't even have enough money or make enough money in the system to put their own children into the child care centers that they work in. In Ontario, we need good jobs. We need fair wages for everyone, including ECEs, which is, I must point out, a predominantly female-oriented field. Why won't the government commit to providing early childhood educators with equal pay for equal work in the province? A Speaker I'm proud to rise today and speak about this issue, especially since it is Child Care Worker and ECE Appreciation Day. And I want to thank the workers who are here today for being right here with us. You know, child care workers and ECEs play a critical role in our child care system. They provide children across Ontario with a strong foundation in learning to help them get the best possible start in life. And absolutely, the need for better wages and compensation for these early years in child care workforce is something that we heard throughout our consultations and is a priority for this government. And so that's why we're doing so many things, Speaker, on so many different levels. So absolutely, we've raised the minimum wage from $11 to going to $14 an hour starting in January. Many of the child care workers out there are making minimum wage. We also are bringing in a workforce strategy, which is looking to do a deeper dive. We also have a wage enhancement of $188 million to take up the hour limit. Thank you. New question. A member from Carlton, Mississippi Mills. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My question is for the Minister of Energy. Minister, Ontario electricity costs are the highest in almost all of North America. The On Fair Green Energy Act provides massive subsidy payments from Ontario ratepayers to out of province wind and solar electricity producers for electricity that we do not even need. We do this while we shut down Ontario water and nuclear produced electricity that costs six cents per kilowatt hour. The Green Energy Act is impoverishing Ontario homeowners. It is driving businesses and jobs out of Ontario. The Green Energy Act has reduced the once prosperous Ontario to a have not province. Minister, it is time to show respect for the people of Ontario. Will you do the right thing and repeal the Green Energy Act? Thank you, Minister of Energy. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I want to thank the member for the question. When it comes to the first part of his question, Mr. Speaker, we have dropped rates by 25%. And I know the Honourable Member knows that because the constituents in his writing will have seen a reduction of 25% on their bills. Mr. Speaker, when it comes to renewable energy, this sector has created tens of thousands of jobs in our province, creating economic benefits for communities from Windsor to Ottawa to Sudbury to Sault Ste. Marie all the way up into the northern part of our province into Thunder Bay and right across up there, Mr. Speaker, into Kenora and elsewhere. The Green Energy Act, Mr. Speaker, has brought forward about 18,000 megawatts of renewable power to our province, Mr. Speaker. These megawatts are actually making sure that we have a diverse supply mix, a supply mix that has made sure that we no longer have to worry about smog days in this province, which is a savings again to our health care system and to the benefits of all people in this province. Again, to the Minister of Energy. The Green Energy Act has cost Ontario people billions of dollars, first with the solar source contract for $7 billion with Samsung and then with countless out of province subsidized wind and solar contracts. Could you have chosen, you could have chosen to buy water powered electricity from Quebec. It would have been cheap. It would have been as required instead of as produced. It would have been Canadian. It would have been a good deal. If your objective was to redistribute Ontario wealth to other nations and to lower our standard of living in order to reduce consumption of resources, as preached by Maurice Strong and his agenda 21, then I applaud you. You have been successful. Why did you choose the most expensive plan possible? Thank you Minister. Thank you Mr. Speaker and again pleased to rise and talk about the system that we've built in Ontario. It now benefits from a 90% emissions free electricity system. It is clean and it is green Mr. Speaker and it allows the the trillion flowers to grow in this province from the Honourable Member on that side Mr. Speaker. You know, since 2003 Ontario's clean energy initiatives have attracted billions of dollars in private sector investment generating over 42,000 jobs at over 30 solar and wind manufacturers operating in communities across the province. Ontario ranks first for installed wind capacity in this country Mr. Speaker and renewables were an important element of our government's plan to close all of Ontario's coal plants by 2014. That year Ontario became the first jurisdiction in North America to fully eliminate cold fire electricity generation. Thank you Mr. Speaker and my question is to the minister responsible for early years in childcare. As the members of this House know today marks the 17th annual childcare worker and early childhood educator appreciation date and I want to welcome all the ECE workers that have joined us here today. It is important that we recognize the hard work and value of those who are shaping and caring for our youngest learners and as a mother of two young boys I know how important this is and it's equally as important to make sure we retain the hardworking professionals who are already doing this crucial job and Speaker let me give a shout out to all the great ECE workers in Davenport. They are the front lines of our children's path through education. Can the minister tell me more about what she is doing to help recruit and retain early childhood educators in Ontario? Thank you minister. Thank you Mr. Speaker and thank you to the hardworking member from Davenport for this very important question. Speaker we are creating a strong foundation for our young children so they can thrive and we're investing in the people who work hard every day to provide high quality licensed childcare programs for Ontario kids. Included in our framework to build quality affordable accessible childcare is our commitment to develop a workforce strategy to support Ontario's early years in childcare professionals. It's so important Speaker support in key areas like compensation professional development hiring retention and education that work is underway. We also announced that the government is going to host two professional development events a year starting in 2018 and we're creating regional centres of excellence for early years and childcare educators. Speaker with our five year expansion plan it's estimated we're going to need 20,000 more ECEs the work is underway and we're doing everything we can to recruit. Thank you supplementary. Thank you and thank you to the minister for that answer and I've heard from any ECEs that they are concerned about the low wages in the field and worried they may not be able to pay for their expenses including their own families childcare needs. It is true that average salaries for ECEs have increased over the past five years but they are still lower than the average salary making recruitment and retention of ECEs difficult for childcare operators. For someone who is pursuing their passion of being an ECE this can be discouraging and as we just heard from the minister we plan to increase the number of ECEs here in Ontario. So can the minister tell me what is being done to address wage concerns and ensure we retain those who are pursuing this important career choice. Thank you minister. Thank you speaker and please answer the member's question speaker I've heard about the challenges ECEs face when it comes to low wages that's why we're investing in the professionals who work tirelessly to deliver high quality childcare programs. In fact our government is supporting a wage enhancement for eligible professionals working in licensed childcare because this help is vital for these workers. So for 2017 we allocated more than 188 million dollars to support the wage enhancement and the home childcare enhancement grant. Just think about that eligible staff and home childcare providers can now receive a wage enhancement of up to two dollars an hour plus 17.5% in benefits. An eligible home childcare provider could receive a grant of up to 20 dollars a day. Through the wage enhancement this new job creation we can help close the wage gap between our CECs and other childcare program staff. Speaker these investments are part of Ontario's plan to modernize childcare. Thank you. And the question to the member from Bruce Curry Old South. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker my question is to the minister of health and long-term care. Today at Queen's Park we have three large organizations advocating together on behalf of cancer patients. Lymphoma Canada, Cancerity and the Canadian Cancer Society. They are upset about Ontario's two tiered cancer care system that forces patients to pay for life-saving medications once they leave a hospital. The unaffordability and lack of access to drugs leaves patients like Daniel Glazerman worried that his cancer may return. Mr. Speaker you may be surprised or even outraged to hear that it shows lagging behind other provinces in funding cancer therapy. Will the minister please explain why he discriminates against cancer patients while Alberta, Manitoba, BC and Saskatchewan do not. Thank you Mr. Speaker and of course our government is absolutely committed to creating a world-class evidence-based cancer system. In fact Ontario is a leader in cancer care and I want to welcome Cancerity and Canadian Cancer Society and others here to Queen's Park today. In fact Ontarians and they know that Ontarians who get cancer they have one of the best chances of survival anywhere in the world Mr. Speaker according to the cancer system quality index but we recognize absolutely that access to cancer drugs is a critically important issue. In the last five years we've added 68 new cancer medications, 28 of those under ODB are oral cancer drugs and it's important to know Mr. Speaker that 89% of people of individuals in this province who access who require cancer medications are seniors. 89% of the population is already covered by our ODB program Mr. Speaker. Thank you. Thank you supplementary to member from Thornhill. Thank you very much Mr. Speaker and again to the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care. Mark Silverstein lives in York Region and asked me to share his story. Mark is fighting lymphoma for the third time and is now trying Venklaxta. His doctor wants to add Rituxim to improve his chances and this combination is funded in most provinces yet Rituxim is only funded for one treatment in Ontario. He was already on Rituxim on an earlier regiment so Mark is forced to pay tens of thousands of dollars for medication because this government has decided to only fund it once. Mr. Speaker we are joined today by the renowned hematological oncologist Dr. John Caravella. He wants to share his frustration with Ontario's woefully deficient cancer funding. Dr. Caravella speaks at conferences across Canada and sees firsthand the far more comprehensive cancer funding in other provinces. Will the Minister please explain why Ontario cancer patients are forced to pay out of pocket. So Mr. Speaker as I mentioned 89% of the individuals that regrettably get cancer in this province are our seniors and they're already covered for both injectable and oral cancer drugs. Of the other 11% of the population I'm proud to say that as of January the 1st a significant number of those so all children and youth up to their 25th birthday will be absolutely and fully covered for access to oral and injectable but oral cancer drugs absolutely free of charge no upfront fee no annual copayment no no copayment no annual deductible that's a significant improvement. That ability to provide child and youth pharma care takes a significant movement forward to providing that coverage but we're working closely with Cancer Care Ontario we've established a pharmacy task force. Cancer Entity is a member of that pharmacy task force which among other things is informing us on how to further enhance the take home cancer drugs delivery model in Ontario. So we're working on this Mr. Speaker. New question the member from Nicobal. Thank you Mr. Speaker. My question is for the minister of health and long term care. Coalition and Canadian Cancer Society are with us at Queen's Park today and their message is quite simple take home cancer drugs have emerged as a standard treatment options for many cancer but outside of hospital working adults have to pay for those take home cancer drug the very medication that they need to get better and sometime to stay alive. Those people are here today and they want to know what is this government going to do to help working Ontarians with cancer access the life-saving cancer drugs that they need. Thank you Mr. Health Volunteer. Well Mr. Speaker this is why it's so critically important to support Ontario's and the Premier's leadership on national pharmacare because it provides well you laugh at that but there the NDP's plan for pharmacare didn't even include cancer drugs completely excluded the Mr. Speaker it was only 120 roughly essential medications. So Mr. Speaker it's important that we work at all fronts we're adding more oral cancer drugs 28 they're available to our seniors they're available to those on Ontario works they're available to those those oral cancer drugs to those on disability and shortly on January 1st they're going to be available to four million more Ontarians who are between the age of zero and 25 so support us support us at the national level on pharmacare because universal national pharmacare will provide the answer that I believe we're all looking for. Thank you Speaker. Here's how it works in Ontario right now Speaker if the cancer treatment is given in the hospital or in a cancer treatment centre it is free it is publicly covered but if the cancer treatment is given at home people have to rely on private insurance wait for months and get through the paperwork with Trillium or pay out of their own pockets worrying about how to pay for medication is the last thing that a person diagnosed with cancer and their family should have to go through. Dan Blazerman who was diagnosed with a rare form of lymphoma and Sharon Denis who was diagnosed with leukemia are here today because they want answers from this government when will this government do something to help cover the cost of take home cancer drugs for adults Ontario. Thank you Minister. Well Mr Speaker as I mentioned 89% of people in this province that get cancer are seniors they have access to oral cancer drugs the other 11% we're taking a massive leap forward January 1st where anyone four million more Ontarians between zero and 25 will have access to oral cancer drugs. I hope can certainty in the Canadian Cancer Society and Lymphoma Society know that the NDP's pharmacare proposal did not include cancer drugs and so they're speaking for something that they themselves in their own efforts completely ignored and excluded we're adding more oral cancer drugs we have the pharmacy task force which can certainty is a member of that is looking at us to provide us with that important advice on how we can further add more eligibility and access of course we have the Trillium program as well and we've made together with our partners including cancer in the Canadian Cancer Society important changes to Trillium to streamline that so it's better for patients and that Trillium is available for the 11% of people in Ontario under 65. My question is for the Minister of Health and Long-term Care. Speaker as I know in a parliamentary professional personal capacity our government is committed to ensuring that all Ontarians have access to health care as close as to home as possible and I want to thank the Minister of Health and the Premier for the 400 million dollar expansion that's currently going on at Etobicoke General Hospital whether it's new cardio, respirology, neurology, dialysis wing you're actually doubling the footprint of Etobicoke General Hospital and speaker this is of course happening across the province of Ontario expansion and amelioration of hospitals in home and community care and long-term care. Our government announced 140 million dollars to improve our long-term care. The Minister of Health please inform this house how this 140 million dollar investment will improve long-term healthcare. Thank you Minister of Health long-term care. Well Mr. Speaker we worked very closely with the Ontario Hospital Association with home care Ontario and all our stakeholders and partners in the health sector yes two days ago I announced 40 million additional dollars to be injected into the home and community care service Mr. Speaker this fiscal year and importantly 100 million that will go to our hospitals to create more than 2,000 beds and spaces so we're creating 1,200 new in-hospital acute care beds across the province Mr. Speaker that's the equivalent of six medium-sized hospitals that we're injecting into the hospital system but we're doing more than that we're providing 503 transitional spaces including here in Toronto at the former Humber River site at Finch and the Hillcrest site here in downtown Toronto so that people can get out of hospital and be reactivated and make that important transition and rehabilitation to get them back home quickly and we're providing 207 affordable housing units for seniors together more than 2,000 new spaces 1,200 hospital beds that will be that we work together with the hospital association. Thank you. Time for question period is over. Pursuant to standing order 38A the member from Hullam and Nerfolk has given notice of his dissatisfaction with the answer to his question given by the minister of natural resources and forestry concerning natural grass. This natural gas wells this matter will be debated today at 6 p.m. We have a deferred vote on the motion of third reading of bill 163 an act to enact a safe access to abortion services act 2017 and to amend the freedom of information and protection of privacy act in relation to abortion services calling the members this will be a five-minute bell. All members please take their seats earlier today Mr. Nakmeem moved third reading of bill 163 an act to enact safe access to abortion services act 2017 to amend the freedom of information and protection of privacy act in relation to abortion services all those in favor please rise one at a time be recognized by the clerk Mr. Nacky Mr. Del Duca Sandals Mr. Sousa Ms. Wynn Ms. Matthews Mr. Hoskes Mr. Shurelli Mr. Shurelli Mr. Dugas Mr. Dugas Mr. Charles Mr. Charles Mr. T'Kar Mr. T'Kar Mr. Cole Mr. Bardinetti Mr. Bardinetti Mr. Delaney Mr. Delaney Mr. Dillon Mr. Dillon Mr. Ballard Mr. Ballard Mr. Chan Mr. Moriti Mr. Moriti Mr. Kotoh Mr. Kotoh Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Mori Mr. Miller Perry Sound, Muskoka. Mr. Scott, Miss Thompson. Mr. Barry, Miss Monroe, Mr. Smith, Mr. Bailey, Mr. Romano, Mr. Walker, Mr. Harris, Mrs. Martoe, Mr. Pettipi, Mr. Koe, Mr. Cho, Mr. Joe. Miss Sabbath, Mr. Vantog, Mrs. Delanovo, Mr. Tables, Mr. Miller Hamilton East-Stoney Creek, Mrs. Taylor, Mr. Mr. Natashak, Ms. Armstrong, Ms. Fight, Ms. Forster, Ms. Shimonta, Mr. Hadfield, Ms. Gretzky, Ms. French. All those opposed, please rise one at a time to be recognized by the clerk. Mr. McLaren. Mr. McLaren. The ayes are 86, the nays are one. The ayes being 86, and the nays being one. I declare the motion carried. Third reading of the bill. Twas in the elections. The ayes are that the building will pass and be entitled as in the motion. I'm all further deferred votes. This house stands recess until 3 p.m. this afternoon.


time to meet the DevConf 16 team who are going to tell us about next year's DevConf in Cape Town. Thank you. So our team, all hiding in the corner here, you've met us all already. Some more pictures of us if you can't see the people really hiding in the corner. We have dates for DevConf 16. It says preliminary but we're pretty confident about these dates. We haven't signed contracts yet so that's the only reason they are preliminary but we assume that everything should be fine. This does put DevConf in the middle of winter but winter doesn't mean snow in Cape Town. It just means it might be quite rainy and the rain might go sideways. It doesn't mean there's no wasps or bees or ants or mosquitoes. Wasps don't tend to be a problem but basically the insects are not there in winter. That's good. If we're lucky we'll have a nice rain free week and it'll be spectacular. If we're unlucky it'll be raining all week. So do bring a raincoat and hope for the best. Temperatures should be fairly comfortable. You certainly don't need snow clothes. It's already going set to be in Cape Town so I don't have to sell you on why DevConf is going to Cape Town but I do have to tell you why you're coming to DevConf in Cape Town. It's a spectacular venue. We're on the university up on the side of the mountain with a view out over the city. The buildings on the front are the two residents. Well we're going to have one of them as a residence that people can stay in and our lecture polls will be up in some of the buildings to the left. Just out of view on the right is the pub. We'll come back to that later. Also there's hiking routes going up directly behind the building where the lectures are so you can go hiking all the time. The university is surrounded by three sides by National Park that just extends up the side of the mountain. If you want to go for a run around the mountain before breakfast you're welcome to. Cape Town also has some other pretty views. This is Greenpoint Stadium that you might have seen from our World Cup. The university is around behind Devil's Peak which is the mountain you see on the left. So by the way some people didn't know what this line was on the badges. That's the outline of our mountain and being Cape Townian we thought the whole world knew this. That was really funny. So now you can see why. You will learn the names of all our mountains if you come to DevConf 16 in Cape Town. We have a lot of very good wine farms in the area. This one is about 10 minutes drive away from the university. There were others maybe more like 20 minutes to half an hour's drive. I'm sure we're going to have day trips to Wine Lens. That is a summary view probably but you can have days like that in winter. There are very good botanical gardens about five minutes drive or walking distance even from the university. There's a contour path between the university and the botanical gardens. You can easily spend days here. It's very beautiful. And of course there's shopping centres and restaurants and everything that you'd expect from a major world city. And animals. We have penguins. So the team had a bit of bike shedding in which animals to include. Penguins seem like a no brainer for the most popular animal. We don't have raccoons but we do have penguins. You can't. You can walk and swim with them if you're lucky. They do bite. You probably want to stay away. And they smell a lot.  We have sharks and whales. This will be perfect whale watching season by the way. So we might have a day trip to to a seaside town that you can watch whales on. Not that Cape Town isn't a seaside town but the whales go up the coast. Deb Conf isn't the only like-minded group in the area. There are other people. There are locals who should be interested and come and join us. We have a strong Python community that many of us are part of and Ruby and many other things. Let's talk a bit more about our venue. We're using the new engine. Well the new Snape building which is next to the new engineering building at the University of Cape Town. This is a brand new building with brand new lecture halls that look like that. Each desk has a power plug which we thought was awesome. They all accept your euro plugs. And we have some lots of bathrooms and hack labs that look pretty comfortable. There's some other space. There should be some outside hack labs that can double the smoking areas. And this space here is above the really big lecture theatres that see 300, 400 people if something goes really wrong and lots of people turn up like this Deb Conf. But we're thinking that there might be some big events happening in this area. There are ATMs just next to that area. You can draw money on venue. And there is a pub. We'll probably be serving food here. More views of the pub. It has a fireplace. In winter a fireplace is very nice. And armchairs. Unfortunately they're probably not enough for everyone. Well, they should be during Deb camp. Because that pub can comfortably host between 100 and 140 people. So we are considering just moving the whole Deb camp there. Have beer all the time. Let's talk a little bit about accommodation. What went wrong here? That's weird. Running out of beer could possibly go wrong. But I'm sure we could solve that. It is a student. The accommodation on campus is going to be single bedroom dorms. They don't have attached bathrooms. But each group of bedrooms has I think a toilet on each floor and shared showers for that group of 10 rooms. We will also have some other we'll try and organize some family accommodation nearby. It might be a five minute or 10 minute walk away. Not two minute walk. And there are hotels about 15 minutes walk distance and lots of third party bed and breakfast. That's the residence building. They're the ones that's really slow on the contract by the way. Those are the general accommodation options. Unfortunately some of you are going to require visas to come to DebConf. We wish that we were hosting it in a country where they accepted everyone in without paperwork. But sadly South Africa does like a bit of bureaucracy. You are required to have two blank pages in your passport. Because if you don't they will send you away at the border.  They're also going to require that you have some money and tickets back home. Obviously we'll provide letters of invitation to anyone that needs them just like DebConf always does. You might need some fever certificates if you come from other interesting parts of the world. And if you bring children you have to bring unabridged birth certificates. This is a very new thing. So we're hoping that they will review it or take it away again by next year but we're not sure. Yeah it caused a whole lot of trouble for people and doesn't seem to have been a big benefit. I think that's very sad. Here's a map of countries that require visas. If you're a green country you can come for three months without a visa. If you're orange country well light orange you can come for a month without a visa but I can't actually see any of those on the map. And dark orange you're probably going to need a visa. But most of you in Europe and America should be able to visit without a visa. Talk to us or read the Wikipedia page that has all this information on it. No I said some people will need visas. So the normal audience from North America and well probably all of America and Europe probably don't need a visa but I think there's being a deep conflict in Africa we would like to pay special attention to people who's from the not normative areas and they are the ones unfortunately that seem to require visas most of the time. So I know there were colleagues from Kenya and India and they would require visas. That might be an accident of the projector. I think that's green but I do yeah there seem to be two multiple greens. She is complaining that the key of the map doesn't match the colors on the map. I would recommend you visit this page on Wikipedia because it's all there. Maybe our slides on missing something. Let's continue. And that is the end. We'll see you in Cape Town. Well we'll see you again. Any questions? Do you have some good local beer? We have some good local beer. We have excellent local beer. We have excellent mass produced local beer which my crafty friends might disagree with. But we also have very excellent craft local beer. Some of the less popular mass produced local beer will be at the local pub. They don't actually have any craft beers at the pub. At the moment but when I asked them they said they are looking into it and they are willing to negotiate with us to bring in beers if we want to organize it which we certainly will. In the local Linux community there is a brewer if we persuade him he might get some beer. It's really cheap though the beer is really cheap. Silly question. Does the venue have aircon? The lecture theatres will have aircon. The rims probably don't. But it's winter. In South Africa there generally isn't heating in houses. People just get cold. Yes. It's not quite cold enough to need heating except for the few days a year when you do. Australia should sort your out for generally. Then there's a buff tomorrow at 2 o'clock in our thinking room where we can brainstorm so any crazy or wild whatever ideas or suggestions or recommendations or critiques or comments that you have for DEBCOMF16 please join us there. There's also our IRC channel or email. We're looking forward to hear your ideas about how to make a DEBCOMF in Africa work very well. In addition to that we know that some people won't be able to join us and we would like to explore ideas on how to make remote participation a good idea. Obviously in person is always based but there's ideas on how to make it really good for everyone. There will be a good internet connection so you can expect good video streams. We'll just need some IRC question forwarders. So what ideas do you have for the day trips? You've already mentioned the wine lands. I mean I'm assuming a trip up the mountain that kind of thing. So there was a safari trip. A lot of people asked about animals. Definitely a whale or probably a whale trip to Hermonus possibly ending at Marks Farm in where these liners run brewery. There was a hike up. There was possibly a trip to Cape Point Nature Reserve which is the most southwestern point of Africa.   It's like the southernmost point of yeah yeah and back down again yeah and and if you're really lucky you get to stop at the funky Cuban restaurant on the way back if you have time. There's a lot so we'll probably go with um we'll probably load them all up there and see what happens do a mini survey and there's just too much to do. There were some good wild animals in that game reserve in Cape Point as well. Obviously a wine farm trip. You'll probably see an ostrich. You'll probably see some baboons. If you're lucky you'll see something else. Yes and definitely a wine trip. Baboons are everywhere yes. Don't feed them please. I'm sorry to ask that but what about general security in the town and walking at night and walking during the day? Walking during the rain is not a problem for me. I still don't own a raincoat and I'll be living in Cape Mountain in ten years. The security thing do I want to take that to someone else? I can take it. Anyone can take it. We knew we were going to get a security question of course. I would say it's like any major


So, you know, more or less, this program is, I don't know, the work hours are different from our work hours. I'm Sonar Tech, first class, Reynaldo Reyes. I've been in the Navy for seven years now. Sonar Tech's students use a lot of electronic equipment and I never understood the breakup of each piece that actually sits inside a cabinet. So when I look at these cabinets, I think of them as an oversized computer.  My parents struggle a lot just because they lack the capability to understand how computers work. It was all struggles that they definitely didn't need to go through or could have easily been surpassed because of understanding how, you know, the internet works or how a computer works, how to type up a resume. So I started volunteering when I got back to California, was in 2014. I definitely wanted to give back, especially to those people that I see struggling with the same things that I struggled with or my parents struggled with when I was growing up. I want to see what I could do with computers and see what programs were open and that's when I found computers to San Diego kids and they do everything from refurbishing computers to help needy families and, you know, they give them out at a discounted rate. They also hold trainings for computer literacy at the county libraries, which I take part in. The age groups really vary at every class, but some people show up not knowing how to set up an email. Some people show up knowing how to work Microsoft Office and Internet Explorer. Every time I've taught a class it's been beneficial to the learners. It's been beneficial to every student that shows up. They definitely leave there knowing a lot more than they came in.