Welcome back, everyone, to theCUBE's live coverage here in San Francisco for VMware Explorer. I'm John Furrier, Dave Vellante. Two days of walls, three days of walls walk, of two sets, live events with Pranima, had Menabon, Senior Vice President, and General Manager of Cloud Manager at VMware. I got it right, thanks for coming on theCUBE. You got it right, good to be here. We're all smiles because we were talking about your history, you once worked at Loud Cloud, and we were reminiscing about how Cloud was before Cloud was even Cloud. Exactly. And how hard it was, and it's still hard. Complexity is a big deal, and one of the segments we want to talk to you about is the announcement around ARIA, and you see Cloud Manager, a big part of this direction to multicloud to tame the complexity, and we were quoting Andy Grove on theCUBE, let chaos reign, and then reign in the chaos. Exactly. Okay, a very famous quote in tech, and the theme here is cloud chaos. Yes. So we're starting to see signs of reining in that chaos or solving complexity, and every major inflection point has this moment where it gets so hard and then it kicks up to the right and grows and link itself. So we feel like we're in that moment. I couldn't agree more, and in fact, the way I say is our tagline is, we make the complexity of managing Cloud invisible so that you can focus on building your business apps. And you're right about the inflection point. Every time a new technology hits, you have some point of adoption, and then it becomes insanely successful, and that's when the complexity hits. Then you go and tame the complexity till the next technology hits, right? That's what happens, it's happened with virtualization, then it has happened with cloud, then with containerization, and now the next one will hit. And so with ARIA, we said we have to fundamentally change the problem, right? We're constantly running a race of taming this complexity, so very excited about this announcement which we're doing with ARIA. And we said, imagine if I could have a view of my environment and all the dependencies. I don't need to know everything, just the environment and its dependencies, then I can now start solving problems and answering questions that I was unable to before. And newer technologies can keep coming and piling on, but I'll always be able to answer that. Help our audience understand ARIA, great name, and what's new from, it's not just V realized with a new name, what's new specifically? Oh yeah, please, no. Explain, some people have confused that. Well there's some commentary on it, snarky comments, but it's a product, it's not a rebrand of something else. It's not, it's not, yeah. So what we did is, let me start off, why we started ARIA. So we said, okay, native public managing environments, native public cloud environments and cloud native applications is a different ball game. More ephemeral workloads, very large scale, highly fragmented data. So we looked at that problem, grounds up, and said we need to have a management solution that solves that problem, focused on native public cloud and cloud native apps. And the core to solving that problem was, you can't just solve it for one cloud, or you can't solve it for one discipline. When I say discipline, when you think about management, what do you manage?  And you're managing to speed up the delivery, that is it. And so we said we'll have a new look to this management and what we have done with ARIA is we have introduced a brand new platform, which we call ARIA Hub, powered by ARIA Graph, which allows you to deliver on this management challenges by creating a map of your environment, a near real-time map of your environment. And then we are able to, once we know what an application looks like and how it maps to the infrastructure, we can go and query other subsystems to tell you what is the cost of an application, what is the performance of an application, creating a common understanding. It's a new architecture. I just wanted to get that out there. It's a federated new architecture. And a graph database. Yes, it's a new architecture, federated a platform that not only gives you a map of your environment, but it federates into other sources to pull that data together. Now, one of the data sources that it federates into is, of course, also we realize, cloud health, tons of observability, you plug everything into it. And as part of the announcement, we didn't just announce a platform, we also announced a set of cross-cutting solutions because we said, okay, what is the power of the platform? The big thing is it removes the swivel chair management. It allows you to answer questions you couldn't answer before. And so... Swivel chair, meaning going from one app to another. One app. Logging in. Exactly, logging in credentials. And you don't have a common understanding of an app across those. So now you hire people who do integration buses. All kinds of problems. So the three new end-to-end solutions we are announcing also along with the platform. These are brand new. One is something called ARIA Guardrails. So when I have development environments today, for example, my I do development on public cloud as well as private cloud, I have thousands of accounts. Each one with its own security rules. Each one with its own policies. After I initially deploy the account, it becomes a nightmare to manage that. So what ARIA Guardrails allows you to do is set up these multi-cloud environments with the right policies. And not only is it about one-time provisioning, but it is maintaining them on a run-time basis. And those credentials are also a risk because you have a password on the dark web that's exposed on one and you've got to change it. And there's so many things going on on security which brings me up to the point of, we're going to see Tom later on security. We heard earlier, why wasn't security in the keynote? Oh, it's table stakes, as Zia said. But we're like, okay, I get that. So let's just say that security is table stakes. There's a big trend towards security as a state of something at a given time. And that CSOs and CSOs are going to defensibility. Meaning being defensible all the time as an ongoing thing, which is not just running a pen test once a week, like multiple testing, real testing, not simulation, to be secure. So it's not about being secure. It's about having security, but defensibility is the action now. Not, how does that fit into this? Because this seems to like being in this wheelhouse of management. No, I think you're bringing a very important point which is the security as a post-the-fact item is no longer right. You want to bake in security. This is a shift left of security that we talk about. When you're building an application and you're deploying code in your test, you want to say, hey, what is the security? Is it secure? Is it meeting my guard? Then when you deploy it, from an operations perspective, also it is a security concern. It's not just a security team's concern now. So is my configuration right? Is my configuration secure? Is it drifting? It's never a snapshot in time. It's constantly you have to look at it. Is it drifting? And that is exactly what we are doing also with ARIA. So that's part of the solution you're talking about in the guardrails within? Being able to maintain the secure configuration, right? Now, as I said, there's always a security discipline which is done by security teams, but you also want operations teams and development teams to enforce security in their respective practices and that's what ARIA allows you to do. So the question on multi-cloud comes in, okay, so this is all good, by the way, we love that shift left again. Great developer, and I would argue, actually we are arguing on theCUBE, that DevOps is the development environment for cloud native, so the IT operations once called Ops is now in Dev, just saying. And then data ops and security ops are now the new IT, because that's where the hard problems are. So how do you look at the data side of it as well as security in your view of multi-cloud? Because hybrid cloud, I can see the steady state between on-premises and cloud, if it's operating cloud-like. Now you're starting to look at spanning clouds, not full-spanning workloads, that's not there yet, but certainly people have multiple clouds. But when data seems to be the first thing spanning, not necessarily the app itself, but how do you guys view that multi-cloud aspect of what you're managing? I mean, how do you look at that? I think there are different angles to it, right? You can look at it from the data angle and you look at it on how protected the data is. For us, when you look at management discipline, it is all from the perspective of configurations. If I have configured my environment correctly, then you should not be able to do something that destroys the data, right? So getting the configuration right when you're developing the app, getting the configuration right when you're provisioning the app, and then getting the configuration right even when you're doing day two and ongoing operations, that is what we bring to the table. And to some extent that ARIA visibility that I was talking about, an ARIA graph, a near real-time view of the configuration state and its dependencies is very critical. So now I can ask questions, is there a misconfiguration? By the way, the answer is yes, sir. Now- That happens a lot, by the way, too, right? Yeah, which exposes me. And then you can say, hey, is there user activity associated with that misconfigured object?  So not only is something misconfigured, but there is user activity associated with the misconfigured data, you know this is something that I have to do. This is where AI sings beautifully because- Beautifully.  Exactly. It's like you just don't even think about it. You just don't leave an S3 bucket open. It's got to be simplified because we're asking the devs now to be security pros. Secure the runtime. Secure the paths. Secure the containers. And so they need help. This is not what they wake up in the morning passionate about. And that is where the guardrails comes in. Totally, yeah. So a developer, why should they care? They should just say, look, I am developing for the credit card industry. I need a PCI compliant environment. And then let us take care of defining that environment, deploying that environment, managing that environment on an ongoing basis. They should be building code, right? But there is a change also, which is in the past, these were like two different islands and two different views. With ARIA graph, we also have created this unified API that a developer could query or an ops could query to create a common understanding of the environment. So you're not looking at, you know, the elephant one, the trunk, and the other one, the tail. You're looking at it in a common way. Can you talk about the collaboration between Tanzu and ARIA portfolios because obviously the VMware customers are investing in Tanzu. A lot of stuff's coming out of the oven. We heard some, Dave heard some stuff from Chris Wolff. He's going to come on tomorrow. And Raghu was hinting at some other stuff that's not yet public. But you know, this thing's happening. Things happening, a lot of things happening. You know, you announced what's happened years ago. Yeah, last year. Now some fruit's coming off the tree. This is a hot product, ARIA. It makes a lot of sense for the customers. Where's the cloud native stuff that they're connecting in. What's the, give us the overview. Where's the connection? Lots and lots of connections. So you have a beautiful Kubernetes environment and a cloud native platform. You have accelerated app development. Now you're building more apps, more microservices based apps, more fragmented data, more information. So think of ARIA as an envelope around all of this. So wherever you are, whether you're building an application, employing an application, managing an application, retiring an application through that lifecycle, we can bring that management. So what we are doing with Tanzu is with the platform, development platform, now we can hook in management with a common perspective earlier in the lifecycle. I don't have to wait for it to go to production to start saying, is it secure? Is it configured? How is it performing? What is my cost trade off? As a developer, I've decided to fix a latency issue. I'm going to add a new region or I'm going to scale out a particular tier. Do I know how much it'll cost me? Can I give you that right at your fingertips, potentially even within the development platform and within the IDE? That's the power, right? So bringing ARIA and Tanzu together. But not a lot of heavy lifting on the developers. It's pretty much almost like a query to a database or something. Give it a simple API that they can just query as part of their development process. So by bringing ARIA and Tanzu and really ARIA enveloping Tanzu, you're able to bring the power. I just always smile because I remember, we have a group called the Clouderati, the early O.G. founder. Clouderati. The early days of cloud. When we were talking about infrastructure as code, way back when, and finally it's actually happening. So what you're describing is infrastructure as code because now this is more complexly happening under the hard and top. Exactly. And services are being turned on and off automatically. Sometimes you might not even know what's going on. Exactly. But if you have guardrails. But you have to discover the state, know something has turned on, understand the implication, and then synthesize it down to the insight for the user. You know a lot of people have been complaining about other older companies like Splunks of the World who have great logging technology for Gen 1 cloud. But now these new logging becomes a problem. Can you talk about how you guys are handling that, give confidence or explain that everything's going to be logged properly? Yeah. So really, look, there are three disciplines that we are management. Ultimately there are thousands of names but it boils down to you're managing the cost, you're managing the security, you're managing the performance of your application. That is it, right? So what we found is when you think of these disciplines as siloed solutions, you can't ask a simple question as what is my cost performance trade off? You can't ask a simple question as hey, I'm improving performance, what is the implication of security? And that's when you start building complex solutions that say, okay, let me collect log from here, let me collect this from here, then let me correlate and normalize an application definition and tell you something. And then put it in a spreadsheet. And put it in a spreadsheet finally for some value over. Exactly. So one of the pillars is about managing performance. We have very powerful capabilities today in our portfolio. Tanzu Observability, which is part of ARIA portfolio. We realize log, which is part of ARIA portfolio, networks, insights and operations. So when you have a common language, we have a common language, we understand each other. Similarly with ARIA Graph and ARIA Hub, we have creating this common language. So once we create a common language, all the various observability and log solutions have a meaning. They have relevance. And so we are able to take the noise from all these systems and synthesize it down to what we call business insights. And that's what is another big announcement as part of ARIA. Take data, which we have lots of, and convert it to information. Give us the bumper sticker on why VMware. Well, I'll tell you, when you talk about various public clouds, each public cloud has their native solutions. I've got Control Tower, I've got CloudWatch, Cloud 12, different solutions. And some of the hyperscalers are also expanding their solutions to other cloud. I think VMware, in a way, from a multi-cloud perspective, we are in a wonderfully neutral position. Not only do we have a wealth of technology and assets that we can bring to the game, but we can also do it evenly across all clouds. So look at something like cost. Do you trust one of the hyperscalers to tell you that what is the cost comparison between them and another hyperscaler? That is where the VMware value comes in. I think people just start to figure out what the cost of one cloud is. Exactly, exactly, that is often. People make money doing that as a job. No, no, definitely, even a single cloud, what is the cost? There's a cloud economist out there, and we know who he is, Corey, a friend of the queue. He does it for his living, so it helps people figure out their bill. Exactly. Just one cloud. Exactly, it's one cloud. So being able, we have that unique position where and the right sets of technologies and experiences to bring that solution to bear across multi-cloud, right? Right. What's your vision? Real quick, one minute left. What's your vision for the group? What are you investing in? What's your goals? What are you trying to do? Obviously the product's new, going to roll that out. What's the plan? Really, again, the biggest one, the tagline I talked about, right?  Don't waste your time on it. Let us take care of it, right? So make the cloud complexity invisible so that you can focus on building your applications. And everything that we do in the business unit is targeted towards that one goal. It is not about doing more features, more capabilities. It's, are you solving customers' questions? And we start from question down. Pranima, thank you for spending your valuable time here in theCUBE explaining the new news, appreciate it. All right. Good day. All right, we'll be back after lunch, after the short break, stay more with theCUBE live here in San Francisco for VMware Explorer 22. I'm John, that's Dave. Thank you.


FEDER like six Bs before I found out she had a B allergy. Welcome to episode number nine. No 10. No it's not. Yep. Check it.  Yep. New chair for brown. We always do this. We always do this. Episode nine is, yeah this is episode number ten. New chair for me. New chair for me.  We forgot about Brown's chair. We're 25% done. Now I reckon I'm really enjoying this plus remember we didn't get this chair for him until like episode five or six. Remember we had the other chair first with every ten and we had the other chair that broke. So technically he should be in this chair until episode 20. Yeah okay sorry. Oh. He's standing. He's standing. We got a jam packed episode everybond.  He's coming on. He's going to talk to us and tell you guys what he told me. So if you have heart issues or anxiety issues stick around. It's a bit more of a serious part but the rest of the podcast is so silly and funny. It's a bit of a horoscopes who's a better Brown Matt vs Michael Matt's tinder adventures of course which has taken some funny funny turns or some funny stories first week. I wouldn't say better but it's it's there's some longer conversations. I don't know. It's hard to tell now. I'm excited. I'm so excited for that. And I've got something to say about that.   What's been going on? We're back at work. Last week was full week back at work and feeling better.  Low blood pressure. Blood pressure is going off the blood pressure medication and I did a reading this morning. It was like 136 over 85. So that's not so bad. That's not so bad. I did like 14 readings and that was the average. And I'm not even on blood pressure medication. I feel like because I know it's anxiety and stress that that alone is lowering my anxiety and stress. Yeah. Does that make sense?  Oh really? That's all gone. Well it's not completely gone but it's definitely much much less. So I'm starting to think that that definitely played a role as well. But it's not even confirmed it's a dairy allergy was a weird naturopath test. We got like a proper blood test and stuff to confirm it. But I am feeling much better. I exercised like eight times last week and went hard. Huh? Eight. Eight times. Yeah.  Shit's on the up.   We got some banger vids coming out. What's come out right now? What's out on the website? What are we going to post? I don't even know. Shit. We don't know right now. Yeah. We haven't decided yet. Some awesome. I bet though bro. I thought of the arse wine. Yeah. Arse wine was pretty fucked. And last week we filmed a sequel to the Solving World Hunger video. We swallowed whole popcorn kernels. Yeah. And then shot them out and then popped the popcorn. I sent you a message of what people thought of the one guy sent. Yeah. There was some hate. There was a lot of people. But you get that. You get that with the gross videos. Some people don't like them pants all the way down. All the way down.  Smell it. It's actually sort of nice. I knew you'd enjoy that. Did you see me do that man? Yeah. I felt it go in.  And I feel good about that. Oh. Thank you. Thank you mate. That was upsetting. It's like a treat. We all look very strange, don't we? What was I going to say? Okay. Yeah.  Sorry. Look. That's what you get. Yeah. It divides the audience. But we do them every now and then because it saves us from pain.  I think. Yeah. And it is interesting sometimes. I did a CT scan last Monday. Oh man. They're weird. What do they do?  There's no other doctors in the room.   And then you'll hear this voice go, all right. First injection. And then you'll hear this.  And it's this dye so that they can. Cold or warm? It's warm.  Does it hurt? And they do a little bit first to test if it fucks your body. So that's terrifying. Sitting there thinking, is my body going to react badly? And then after a few minutes at a right, they're like, all right. Here comes the second injection. This one's a little bit bigger.   They're taking photos.   I don't open it. No, I'm not going to say it. No, dude. What do you mean? We've checked many times. There's no need for that. It didn't fizz up though. It didn't fizz as it opened that time. Oh God. Yeah.   That's why he's wearing. And I figured it out. You are self-conscious about your hair tonight. That's why you're wearing that. No, no. How do we go into it? Your self-conscious. James said this too. I should have, I should have just cut it like I don't, he never tells me when he's getting haircuts. You want me to tell you?  Oh, I've got some stories for you boys. Go on then. Wait a minute. Is it golf related? No, no. Okay. So I am, Amber came to me last night and said, I found skid marks in your auntie. Oh, no. I was like, yeah, it's been achieved. She's like, oh, it's regular. I was like, oh, that sucked. What do you mean regular? Like she always finds them. Yeah. That is an issue. Oh, no, that's all right. She was cool. She's just, I think. Man, that would be rough. I don't know what I would do if I saw, imagine seeing skid marks in Amber's underwear. Oh, yeah. Wow. It's even worse if they're female for some reason. But, um, yeah, that's happened in my life. Oh, yeah. That is fucked. Can't something cool happened for those of you who know Kenny versus Spenny, you know, Michael and I are massive fans of them. Matt doesn't really watch anything other than Paul. So it doesn't really know who we're talking about. We reached out to Kenny on Instagram just because we've been talking about doing a Marty versus Michael series. And it's not going to be exactly like Kenny versus Spenny. But, you know, there are some parts to it where, you know, where we, it is a little bit influenced by that. So we reached out to Kenny and he's like, I was, and you know, I was like, oh, would you guys ever, you know, want to get involved? And he's like, fuck, yeah, just send us an email.  How cool is that? Imagine. And, and, you know, this is a lot of people say he could have just been being polite.  This may not happen.  So what do you think of that, Brown?  Comedy. Yeah. That was like 50 years ago or something. So yeah, you would have been about high school. Yeah. That's for client. Yeah. Well, there you have it. Look, things are going on. Things are going right on. Right. Every day is different a bit.   What is it? 85 days sober today. Wow. That's almost 100. Dude, it's been like, if I didn't have this heart thing, it probably would have been a lot harder to be honest. Oh, true.  You have nothing holding you back. Yeah. It would have been like special occasions where you're like, I would have been more tempted. I still would have, I still reckon I still would have done it because there have been many tempting times, even now because Mon started to drink a little bit again.  Can't I? We still got to talk about your bucks with you and see if you're happy with what it is playing out. All gone then.  Shall we quickly do sponsors? Yes. All right.  You think, oh, I've got a very diet.       You stop taking it.   It boosts your energy and it revitalizes all the cells in your body and it's so good for your gut, which is good for your head, which is good for your body, which is good for life. Wow. They're well set. Athleticgreens.com slash fully actual. You get a free travel pack. It's just a subscription. It rocks up at your door. You put a feather powder in a glass of water. You drink it. You're done.     If you snort a line of coke, then you snort a line of athletic greens. I'm pretty sure it all evens out. I didn't think of it like that. Yeah, you're spending three. 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In fact is the name of one of the videos and Matt's going to start reviewing them. Oh yeah, do you know about this Matt? No.   You're going to watch our latest feeds and you're going to review them on the podcast each week. And do you know who gets to vote on what videos Matt watches? Markle and I but also you guys. So please in the comments let us know what website video you would like Matt to watch and review first. I don't know if I want to watch any of your videos.  Yeah that was part of the deal. Yeah this is part of this deal. You just rearranged the deal. Yeah it's new segments come in like tinders like now new websites. It's always evolving and changing like a fart. Yeah it's like this smells fine now. It's like come in the ocean it spreads and swirls. That's us. That's us. So I'm going to have to watch your videos now. Yep well like there's going to be voted on. I reckon whoever like put a comment and then whatever gets the most likes that's the video you'll be watching first. And obviously there are a lot of people who aren't website members. That's totally fine as well but just maybe look at the comments that the website members are putting and the titles of them and then you can just try and judge by the titles which ones you want Matt to watch. And remember it's a 21 day free trial for everyone. You can go and have a look. There's over 250 videos on there now and if you don't like it you can leave free charge. No worries so there's no risk to you okay. We've hired more support stuff. It's just a beautiful thing. We love our website Matt. Even the premium members they get a weekly video from us. You just talk about what you're doing now. It's awesome Matt. Did you see that? Yeah I like the sound of it so I didn't want to stop. Do you send a video to the premium members every week? Yeah every week. What do you say? We just say hey this is what we're doing this week man. It's like a literally a diary of our lives. Anyway sorry. That's the last sponsor.   He's not actually a doctor but he's a very intelligent man and so we're going to talk to him and we're going to get him to tell you guys what he told me.  How did you come across him? He reached out to me after I posted that Facebook video. And he's one of the best men in the world. Have you seen him naked?  Wow I want his number. Yeah.  Anyway you'll see. Alright here we go. Sorry. Hey Dan it's Marty mate and you are currently on the Marty and Michael fully actual podcast. How are you mate? Hey Dan. Very well yourselves guys. Good Dan. We're doing very well. I was just telling everyone how you helped to rip me out of my spiralling hole of depression and anxiety and I thought it'd be a great opportunity to get you on and to maybe tell these people what you told me and maybe who knows we can help with those thousands of people that reached out when I posted that video.  Yeah sure. I'm a medical scientist where I majored in allied health and also medical science so that basically covers a lot of your physiology anatomy, neuroscience and also aspects of psychology as well and then I've also done degrees in occupational health and management as well and I was actually currently studying a degree in medical radiation science but it wasn't because my wife became quite unwell so I'm still doing the study pathway and I hope to get back to it soon. Yeah so you've done like two and a half degrees and you were like what was it you showed me that you were like in the top like one percent of your class in your Yes so I was fortunate to win the medal for University of South Australia so I finished to the top one percent of UniSA and ended up with the the high award of the top one percent so I was very happy to receive that.  Dude he's a very intelligent man. Now so you saw the video that I posted to Facebook so and then you reached out so what about my video that you should reach out? Yeah so I reached out because I previously suffered from almost identical symptoms and thought I could share my experience with you in the hope of giving you some answers to the health crisis that you were in so back in 2012 I'd actually begun experiencing symptoms of what I now know to be anxiety and stress related disorders I was suffering almost identical problems heart arrhythmias abnormally high blood pressure shoulders of breath and dizziness and I couldn't I had no way to explain why it just came out of nowhere and at the time I was perfectly fit and healthy I mean we are all taught from a young age to listen to our bodies and in that context we know our bodies better than anyone else and when something goes wrong we normally can tell that there's something wrong so I basically tried to connect all the dots together of the symptoms that I was experiencing and made a conclusion that I must have a heart disorder or a heart problem and that I was going to die which completely freaked me out so went down to the GP, got a referral and went on to the cardiologist so after extensive testing the cardiologist came back and said there's nothing wrong with you just absolutely fine no problem but I was still experiencing all of these issues as you were Marty I still had all the heart palpitations disorders of breath and I couldn't understand why so I ended up going to see another two separate cardiologists just because I wanted answers I still have any symptoms but no answers and these are really good cardiologists too right you went to like the very best cardiologist in Adelaide right? absolutely I did my research and I found the top echelon of cardiologists in Adelaide and I went and saw them and these guys are very well known and I thought that if I did have a problem these guys would be able to sort it out I did my research and it took a long time to get in to see them I was fortunate enough that I did and they once again did all the independent testing ECG's, ECHO's all the sorts of testing, blood work the whole array of tests and both of them had concluded independently that I was completely fine and healthy no issues whatsoever and did they offer any like did they offer any reason as to why just like I don't know were they just saying oh no this is normal go home you're fine? pretty much yeah, they basically said that it's normal to have arrhythmias and that what I was experiencing wasn't anything to do with the dysfunction or the structure of the heart there was nothing actually wrong with my heart at all but I wasn't given any answers as to why it was happening so they basically just told me that what I was experiencing was in a way something normal that I wasn't going to die my heart was perfectly fine and yeah, go anyway basically which didn't give me any answers at all so I ended up going to see further specialists I saw a respiratory specialist thinking that it might be lung or what's been related and then I went and saw a neurologist thinking that it might be something to do with the warring between the brain and the heart and both of those came back completely clear so the synopsis for all of them was that I had no issues whatsoever physically all systems were working normally which made me really freak out even more this was over a really long period too you were going through the unknown that I went through for like two months you went through that for how long? about 16 months that would have been oh my god it would have just intensified the symptoms heaps too completely because the fact that you're not getting any answers and you've really been dismissed in a lot of ways as well it leads you down a terrible path of dismay and you really feel isolated and this is where the big connection between that and depression because when you feel that you're not getting listened to but you're still with all these symptoms you're getting told that you're fine but you're still with all these symptoms you feel that you're isolated and that you've got nowhere to go and people fall into the pit of depression because they don't know where else to go they see all the medical professionals out there and no one's given them any answers as to why you are suffering from all of these physiological symptoms and they're real but I never got any sort of answers whatsoever so that was a horrible, horrible time and I really now see why people fall into massive pit of depression because there's no answers or help out there once you've closed all those doors and then so you've just gone all down all these tests over 16 months went to all these best doctors nothing was working and then what made you switch your thinking to something else so basically I sort of thought well I'm not getting any answers from any of these people whatsoever and I've done so much research I'm a computer and two different specialists so I thought well I'm going to find out for myself what's wrong with me so I then engaged in a meeting for the next seven and a half years I engaged in health sciences because that basically covered all aspects of health and I thought I'm going to find out what's wrong with me here and it was during that time that I learned the concept psychologically to physiologically crossover so basically how suppressed thoughts feelings and emotions that are packed away in our subconscious mind can manifest themselves into physiological symptoms and I thought wow is this it somehow has the stress and anxiety that's been packed away in my subconscious mind somehow playing a factor in all of these terrible symptoms that I've been in during the years and it was really a light bulb moment for me because I thought there's no other explanation could this be it so I went back to the GP and got a referral to a psychologist and then engaged in therapy over the next eight months and I was going weekly to see the therapist and I sort of thought I'm going to put everything that I've learned from uni together and put everything at the forefront of my mind and hit it with everything that I've got and see how it all goes and lo and behold the symptoms started to disappear so you were on they did put you on high blood pressure medication right correct, yeah as soon as you started the therapy and sort of looking into the fact that it could be psychological that's when all the symptoms started to die down for you and then at the end of that your blood pressure was even too low right because you were on the on the blood pressure medication but it was normal now so it was dropping your blood pressure to below normal levels correct yes so I kept in close contact with the GP so I was having regular blood pressure checks and also blood screening as well and after about the six months period of seeing the therapist also engaging with different factors which I will go through a bit later lifestyle factors, exercise and diet and the like the therapy though was the key there and it actually dropped my blood pressure to a fact to a point that the blood pressure medication was actually dropping my blood pressure too low so they weaned me off that all together so it was actually the therapy in conjunction with the other factors which brought all the stress all the anxiety down to a very basis level and ended up off all the medication and so now you haven't had any weird arrhythmias or anything for years now right so obviously you'd still have stressful moments in your life but there's still no arrhythmias or anything like that because you've handled the underlying stress that was sitting in your subconscious that's correct that's absolutely correct so what we don't realise and what I didn't realise is that the information that we receive whether it's visual audio touch feel all goes into the subconscious of our mind and the amount of information that we receive daily is immense and so the brain goes and tries to file that information away and what happens is that our subconscious tries to make sense of the information that we are receiving and what occurs is that when the subconscious can't make sense of certain information that we are receiving so that might be past traumas or stuff alike it will sit that in the back of the mind until it can make some sort of sense of it and file it away so typically later in life the brain tries to bring forward that information and make sense of it and file it away and it's normally in that time that information there starts to manifest itself in certain forms of stress and anxiety which is where it catches people off guard because it's not something that might have happened yesterday or a week ago or 10 years ago it might have happened 20 years ago or in the childhood but all of a sudden the brain is trying to make sense of this information that's coming forward and when it can't it can manifest itself in the form of stress and anxiety and so it often takes a therapist to really unpack that and go through all of the different aspects of childhood and adolescence even early sort of adulthood and unpack all of that information so that the brain can adequately file it and reduce that stress and anxiety and when it does just as me I found that all of a sudden my anxiety and stress was reduced to the point where my symptoms of arrhythmia and blood pressure and shortness of breath all just decline to the point where they disappeared.   I need a piss bong break it's a bong break have a break it's not long eye is horoscope can I push that horoscope by style horoscope tongue alright this is a complication of all the most expert horoscopes compiled into one so they're very accurate tourists As the stars spin during the full moon.  There's wasn't much information coming in through the stars The cosmos had did not have much to offer this week I was gliding through fresh water streams Letting the cool spring water run across my stretched gills My arm would shoot out and I would grab a passing fish and bite its head off Then I would kick my legs up and jump out of the water breathe in some fresh air and splash back down into the water I noticed a disturbance up ahead in the water and started moving more stealthily I gently lifted my head up so that only my eyes were out of the water Ahead of me.  I looked up at my prize.    Well, it is it's under the horoscope um title bro.  Well, they kind of raped him stop saying that. Yeah, I guess it either. Yeah, it depends because you just you just having a swim and they Yeah, you could just be doing some backstroke underwater. Yeah, you say that in court and you'll be fine Okay, I'm not going to court. We can represent you if you want that. No next I want a $5,000 retainer by the morning. I'll stall you at court. I'll get you a suit All right, so let's move on to who's the better brown Oh, yes And this week Matt ruined it last week and it's back to $200 this week. It was 1200 last week. That is correct.  That's very difficult.    Stop it now now. Sorry. Can you please state your full brown name? You don't know how to say it do you that's why? Yeah, exactly. That's you got caught me Khadija brown.  No, I think so. Would you ever consider having a child with another brown knowing that you could be related some in some past distant ancestor That's why isn't it? Well, that's it's a it's a fair question. Would you would you have a child with someone else named brown matt? No, definitely not. Yeah, be a bit. Why matt would matt would 100% he would if if the person He looks good boring if the if the girl was blonde and faked it enough. He would 100 Have a child with a brown. She doesn't have to have luck. I'm not faked them. So he's all good All right, we're gonna get into these questions now. There's 200 dollars on the line. All right. Here we go question Good luck. Number one Who has more followers on instagram? Musician zack brown or ufc fighter matt the immortal Brown That's tough. I'll throw it to you first matt.   Do you can either choose to agree with him or you can say matt the immortal brown? Okay, so it was a ufc fighter or a single. Correct. All right Yeah, I think i'm gonna go the ufc fighter. Yeah All right Musician zack brown has 169,000 followers It's gonna be my friend. Yeah ufc fighter matt brown has 100 and 80,000 D takes the lead Browns Oh, wow, this is good. All right question number two If you went on the browns planes woolworth's online store and ordered one kilogram of brown sugar One kilogram of brown rice one kilogram of brown onions one packet of thin Brown rice cakes and one bottle of brown brothers muskado. What would your total bill be? Bill be Am I going yes, sorry d you're up first Like I'll go 55 dollars Maybe 70 70 dollars 70 dollars 70 dollars. All right. All right matt brown You think? Yeah, you've made that. That's your answer. Yeah, we're gonna have to lock that one indeed. We're gonna have to lock it in All right matt. What do you reckon? I don't think that much. I reckon it's going to be closer to like 30 dollars. What about inflation mate? They printed all that money 30 dollars. All right. Oh, shit the answer Is 26 dollars and five cents matt brown Oh, yeah, he shops a lot He shops a lot of woolworths and buys brown things his old pantries brown well done matt brown Yeah, I agree. I definitely would have thought I definitely would have thought that that would be more as well But all right, so one all one all currently all right question number three yeah What is a thunder brown? Is it a a turkish traditional instrument? be a twin satellite receiver see ukulele strings or d A popular brown cartoon cat from the 1920s Thunder brown Who's first? Matt you're up now. I'm going to go the twin satellite Yeah, that got me All right d. What do you reckon? I'll go the cartoon All right, thunder brown thunder brown the answer Is ukulele strings both?  What me so what is it one all right now?  Is it d's turn to answer first? d's turn to answer first Go brownie the elf Brownie the elf all right matt brown.  Don't you I don't I just seems like I'm just trying to think cleveland browns Well the answer what would it be? Is brownie the elf Really the elf for a d is up to one d is up to one And matt must answer this question first two disadvantage. Oh, all right question number five The great white shark has the strongest jaws of any animal measuring 4,000 psi of force The brown bear Is also in the top 10 Which number in the top 10 is it? Matt you must answer first I'm gonna go Third place All right matt brown says third place all right d. What say you? um I'll go four That's strong. That's strong brown.  Well there you go. Well All right, I don't which where's the d you can't say your name depending where I'm from K-a-d-i-j-a-h dot brown kadiya brown All right, kadeja, could you please send us your bank details?  Love you guys. Thank you. Thank you so much for participating. Thank you. Kaja. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye It's kardajah That's what I said, bro. Kadabra. Kade, kade, kanejia. Yeah, man. Kadashian. Kadasha. I thought like um Like my last names like Fucked but like I realized like first names like would be even be harder on your on yourself Harder on yourself. How did you redo?  Sorry Anyway, it's time.  Whatever they want. I will be testing their physical emotional spiritual and intelligence All in one competition to see who is the better man overall currently michael leads six three And the competition today That's the competition that's the competition everybody We go far. No the competition is It was always air. Yeah Who is the better at reading at reading? Who is better at reading? I have written two different paragraphs. Okay, they both contain the exact same amount of words I've had james proofread them so that my handwriting is readable. So matt no excuses you come It's fair i've checked is james intelligent though. He might be able to read it and i'm a school teacher Yeah, that's what i mean. He might be able to read it. I wrote it very carefully Man, are there tricky words in there? Yes. I purposely made them tricky-ish words. All right now I will be we're gonna sound so dumb. I have a feeling i'm gonna win I will be timing you listen I will be timing you to see how long it takes you to read your paragraph Every error there is i'll raise my finger and that adds on Two seconds to your time.   Oh, wow. This is crazy Scissors paper rock All right, marco. You get to choose first Just pick one. They're the All right, don't open you yet your eye will start the time and then you can open it Well, wait, can he go first because I won the scissors paper rock and then I see my time. That's fair, right? I'm gonna complain whatever you say. He's gonna complain. What do you mean? I won the scissors paper rock Scissors paper rock so you get to go first. I didn't care which one you won. This is a paper rock. You get to choose Okay, you go first All right, so don't open it yet. I start the timer When I start the timer, that's when you get to open it. Okay. Is that the right way? Yes. That's the right way. Yep. All right ready three two one go A peculiar stench Reverberated through my stretched nostrils the decaying carcass of a wild boar was the epitome of prosperity My famished oral cavity engulfed my dead wife in full.  I did one two mistakes. You mispronounced epitome and peculiar I'm well fucked. Yes, it is. I am well fucked. Where's epitome? The very beginning mate. No, it's in like the middle somewhere here. I'll show you that shows how fucked I am All right, so two so matt got a time of 18 seconds 83 with two mistakes Which adds four seconds. Oh my god. So he's on to 22 Seconds is matt's time well 22 point 22.8 83 22.83 is matt's time.  I'm nervous. All right. That was really good. That was not bad matt That was actually very good. I'm surprised. I thought I said the first that first mistake Funny like but I felt like I said the word right. I'm complaining Well, you have got blue hair. All right, here we go Wait, okay.   Okay.    There were also two slight mispronunciations. What were they? Um, also, I didn't know we were timing like that was a yes squandered and uh, oh no, and socio-economic I said so I would have read it faster. I didn't realize it was acquisition or I told you Yeah, I know, but you sort of said at the end. I didn't realize that was the affiliated.  Let's move on. I said scalding. That's right. Hurry up. All right.  You need to explain a better. I didn't realize it was a speed thing You just said you were timing it No, the pronunciation is in my head. I was like, I've got to pronounce all the words properly You listen. You heard her clearly. You learn. Fuck. I'm so good. You need to work on your listening doubles You need to explain them better.   Just putting it out there. Yeah, but I read quicker my brain go quicker Yeah, I could have read it faster. I'm faster at taking in information and processing. Yeah, you didn't I I was more pronunciation. I didn't think about the speed of it. Oh, man Yeah, well, that's what you got to take in. I took all variables in I can it's like with fortnite Yeah, I'm just saying when I told you how to use your ogmorts You didn't know how to do that while running. I'm just gonna do it now. Let's same thing I'm quicker with more things Man, I'm seven three up.  Yeah Oh, man, that was close. Thanks. We have tinda adventures. Fuck. This just gets worse I cannot find a wife.  Have you have you had any bites? All right.   When did you get arrested? I don't have no idea What was going on? Let's give some context. Okay. Look. Oh, there have been some girls Okay, and despite And I've been doing well and they've been wanting your phone numbers wanting your snapshots and I give it to them No, one of the girls giving my phone number one of the girls I gave matt's phone number two She immediately called him She immediately called him matt had no idea what she's talking about and like I've just had a conversation with her on tinda So she's talking to matt about all the shit that would you spoke about on tinda and matt's like, uh I don't know what you're talking about and she thought that he'd forgotten I think conversation with that she goes. Um, I come in. She said she got arrested or she had a Like a court order against her and she goes What's your court order? I said I said, uh, I don't know. I said what's yours and she goes what you don't remember.  Was she was she did you want did you want to put in? No, you didn't want to transfer dna What about okay, have you been happy with any as anything happened?  So stay on stand by for that I'm funneling them to matt snapchat and i'm giving them his number Matt if matt wants to get laid it's there and and and that's that's something to be happy about matt Well, you want sex it's there. Yeah, and we've done that for you.  It's hard to tell now because like that means there's been none. No because it's so funny early on like When it's first it's the same with like when we first started doing the diary entries and shit No, no, I don't mean glimmer conversations. I mean, is there ones that brown? Good over yes Yes, you still got it Dude, you're getting some good matches, dude. Yeah, but i'm sure you're destroying any chance of life He set up a you can have sex. I've seen the pictures. I have what about the one I showed you before No, you didn't let me look at that. You saw you went.  Here we go first one. Wow.  And there's another one that didn't write back I would grip you so hard if you were mine. What's your job? Whoa grip is you dude. You can't say that No, it's like it's yours. Yeah, it's like you really want to hold her tight Oh, wow grip is like that's a rough sort of terminology first. You can't say that anymore Here's another one that took shockingly didn't reply. I'm slithering around my apartment.  How much do you weigh? Holy i'm just trying to go off what you would actually say someone's one if that person sees me or is like friends with people She knows so I am that's why I'm trying to I'm mashed with them on tinder and he opened up with how much do you weigh? Well, that's what I'm trying to the ice breakers. Well, I'm trying to say what you would say I'm just like trying to channel my inner matt brown and talk to them. You rhymed then say what you would say All right, this girl started the conversation and there's a little bit of a conversation here. Okay Here we go Nice face you have there she starts with wow She started she started that.  I suppose if I stop now and vomit. I'll be sweet to go lol Don't worry about it. You keep going and have fun. And then that was that was the end of the conversation Wait, no, no the next morning.  Hey, yeah, she wrote back. Just listen to the conversation. I'm sorry.   Jesus needed nurse christine. Hey Yeah, I actually did I even scribed your name onto twice. Can you get me painkillers?  How did you know I had them? I actually do it sucks I'm I'm super blonde and barely have have to shave my legs.  My mom has like a full beard.     I can nibble them down chris.  I'm growing my nipple hair at the moment is actually wild One hair is like 20 20 centimeters long.  I'm I'm very careful with it.   Does that make sense chris?   Oh man. Can I see the picture of that? Can we still have a photo?  All right, so matt starts this conversation with someone who is quite attractive I want to crawl into bed with you and start our lives together Wow, you really dive deep That's the most beautiful thing anyone has ever said to me. Thank you Did you know that bears sometimes mate with their prey? I found that out and fully flipped out. Hey You mean bears mate with humans? Are you in radio or something? I am have you heard Working with ash kip and lutsy at the moment.  I feel like you're a Sagittarius Uh-huh. You read my bio. I haven't heard. I'm guessing from your From your headphones. That's rad. I love ash kip and lutsy I'm that new star sign the threatened pig one.  Do you go out night clubbing?  That was a while ago So this picture this girl has a picture with a like a Like a weird horse in her pictures like I mean a weird horse. I don't know. I don't know what it was exactly So that's why you say what you do now What's that thing in your last picture and why are you attacking it?  Uh the alpaca alpaca. What a weird name for a horse. Can you ride horses too? No reply Oh, that is good this girl is called carly, okay What's up, carl? I want to grab a bucket of fish and shoot some hoops Hey, I can't today. Sorry.  I need some help mowing my lawn I mean, I'm looking after my nephews. How are your aunties dumb? Uh, dude, I don't I don't mowing lol. I also work most weekends. Haha. I'm a great catch. Haha Why can't your aunties look after your nephews? Are your cousins with your uncles?   What do you do for work and shit? No, I do it. I knew she wouldn't reply.  This is another one with no reply I saw a car crash today.  You can see me in the background waving heaps Man, you would think that deserves a reply that is hilarious.  This is the one that called you. This is the one that called you. All right. I don't want to read this one So no, this will make sense to you now from what she said to you You can link doc So your cat look she has a picture of a cat in one of her pictures. Your cat looks sick. Let me take you to the vet Are we role playing already? Yeah, so it got to um, I just want to read this part again because it's I really enjoy it So it gets to the role play. Are we are we role playing?  I turn around and bend over. I stretch my cheeks apart as hard as I can Uh, this is escalated. I ignore your comment and shuffle backwards towards you Do it.    Hey, are you free this weekend?   We're about in brissey as your nest. My nest is north brissey I'm from the dirty south. Can we do long distance?  Why do you live there?  Do you drink that water? I swish it down with a side of urine.    Hey, I need to pour it out And just never get time Uh, I actually believe that just saves time at night.  No, just a lot of seasoned assists. Oh no way. Ha ha.   Actual story matched with a guy in here. He said he worked for dabble, which is some betting app He was here in brisbane for work asked me to come around to his hotel I said no offered billy joll box tickets at the mcg. I already had tickets We spoke on the phone still asked me coming around. He said no, he started joking off I fake fell asleep because I felt weird and uncomfortable. He came and hung up next day. He unmatched me So I joined dabble and discovered they had a chat room in the app and he featured heavily in it as baz from finance So I asked if he liked billy jolly in the chat. I got banned.   I'm giggling like a stone child Surely he can't like see you for that Especially since he tossed off while you're on the phone to him. Do you have feelings for him or is it well and truly over now? Oh, lol. It was one night chat.   It makes my gills flutter.  Should we go see billy joll? He's been in gone I was settled for you washing my car in a mechanics outfit just like he did in uptown girl I actually have a mechanic mechanics outfit from a halloween party.  Have you ever done it? Never done it. I've tried babies are so sexist though. Do you have any special powers? Blowjobs, what's your address? What's your number? Can we talk on snapchat? I've been scammed before by giving my and then I gave her matt's number Wow So she can I see this girl? Is she like Did you like this one brown? No Um, what did she sound like on the phone?  Or hardly ever having for ages since last season today Yeah, maybe but like that means I'm just trying to help Hey, we just want to help with my bar. You guys aren't helping. Yeah, we're helping and it's it's you know It's affecting my mental that sounds like she's down with your like Quirkiness system All right, here we go next one. This one really didn't like you much So, yeah, maybe don't pursue this one Hit me up on snapchat.  How much do you weigh?   I'm sure there will be some thirsty chick out there to help you with all that Please missy. I don't have anyone else You're the only person in my life I'll do anything Please just give me a good question to ask I feel like you're some 15 year old on school holidays with fake accounts I'm a fun fun cool-looking lad. It doesn't match up. Hey, I'm a 42 year old man I've just gotten out of an incredibly long abusive relationship. I just couldn't stop abusing her It was really horrible. And now I'm trying to change my skin and become a better man Someone my cousin can be proud of so I'm sorry if I say things that hurt your feelers Is there any advice you can offer me mish-mish?  I just punched a hole in the wall at my work.  It always breaks Anyway, what brands do you wear?      Oh, no. Oh, no No Oh, that's so far this one's this one's I like this one. Okay. Yes Hi matt happy weekend. I hope it's been great so far I literally just watched my mom break her arm falling down some stairs. I fully regret laughing now Hey, it's a pretty bad break. How's your weekend been better than mine so far. I bet Oh, goodness me.  Hope your pop pulls through Let me know if I can drop over any treats. I've got a bottle of mint it can have I'll message back soon though. My mom's getting so annoyed at me being on the phone I'll get at a hospital and chat after L bell Okay, hope your mom pulls up. Okay. Oh Fucking hell, man. Just got out of hospital.   Oh, yeah, this one's good. This is the one that you could have sex with if you wanted to She has your number now. All right, so listen to this giving him my number listen to this conversation Okay, you need to check with me before you give him my number.  Where do you live in shit? I live in kalanga. What about you?  Oh, stop it. You'll you'll make a lady cry with tears of joy doing stuff like that Or maybe a cling on that will never want to leave wink face lol.  I would let you live rent free in my house I have two I have two spare bedrooms and I have a massive pool. I'm not even kidding. Please move in I know we don't even really know each other yet, but please. I'm begging you. Just move in rent free, of course What's your email? I can put you on the lease and make it so you can move out whenever you want I'll even cook for us every night and you can just chill and do nothing and shit Wow slow down as much as I appreciate the offer like you wouldn't believe I've got two kids We've been through a lot of stuff and our mental health is our first priority right now Not to mention I have some trust issues and stuff going on Stuff going on to help me deal with deal and cope with the past I would be more than happy to catch up With you for a drink or a coffee talk get to know each other I've got valiums and shit for the mental health shit if you need. What's your kid's names? Is it Brenda?  Have you ever done dark web pingers? No, I've got vows to and no, it's not Brenda. I've actually got three kids But my 15 year old is in Toowoomba with her nan. I wanted her away from the bad influences Yeah, I've done all sorts of pingers haven't in about two years though. What are you doing tonight? You got a mad rig for someone who's expelled three kids from within not too much Hey, want to hang and get some pizzas? Yeah, I would like that. I don't have a car at the moment I'll explain that one later. Lol. Where do you live?   I was going to text but didn't think you'd appreciate it I've got your notification set up as an alarm. So as soon as you text a really loud alarm goes off So I don't stress so don't stress about texting me at any time of the day. I'm always here for you You've got it next you've got to try and push for her to move in again No, shut up. Her kids are welcome too. Would you be okay with that Matt? No, Matt come on I'll just move out if that thing goes up. You gotta be open to these things That sounds horrible. Just a couple of kids in the spare room and then she can stay in your room. She does pingers Yeah, great All right guys, and that is the progress of matt's tinder adventures everyone That's not even progress. What do you mean progress? I've got numbers. You've got sex. You've got snapchats You've got any of that and I've got no happening matt You're welcome and we're going to continue to do god's work and hopefully Fingers crossed you will find a wife by the end of this. I don't really hope this works All your cups are filled. You've got lays snaps phones marriage kids Everything we are now skipping questions this week. Sorry jono because Because matt just said just turn around to us.  We will cut that and we'll move on To michael's movie reviews. Um, uh, do we have a jingle for that? Oh, yeah matt loves a movie michael thinks he's groovy Matt loves a movie. Which one will it be today? Hey, man, they love me and that was actually matt at the end of that All right guys michael's got another movie to review. All right And um, so matt what movie did you give michael to review last week? The first ever fast and furious Oh, that's right. All right. So michael has had to watch the first ever fast and furious.  And please don't forget to like comment subscribe and give us five sorry if you're on spot at five Please please i'm begging you. I'm sorry. Let's go. Um, the reason why you like the film Is because you're in it Oh, really matt? What part of my in? Vin Diesel I didn't look anything like Vin Diesel.  It's so and oh when he throws down the pink slip Yeah That about sums it up Like if you think that's good You've got like trauma like I haven't got trauma matt.  Let me speak in the terms of movies It's not the best but in terms of fast and furious is because there's so many it's the best What do you give it out of 10? In terms out of all the fast and furious or just give that general as a movie.   He's like find another way Don't know that don't have memory of that.  That's the director of the film Dr. Dan was talking about director.  Yeah, but I let it out to you So then that's why I'm good You it's not bottling it up.  Oh, dude, I watched the whole thing. Amber even watched it with me But so when they amber thing when they um, she was sort of excited for the nostalgic expert because she's seen it before But like she quickly was like, yeah, that was fucked. So what was so that okay? Look, this is the scene. Okay. There's a scene where the gang rock up at the cafe And they're mad at Paul Walker Because he's there he's dead and it was like watching children in their mid 20 year old bodies And then they're not all mad at him one guy's mad because he's got a crush on the girl and he's chatting with the girl floating That's why he's mad.   That's what I mean.   That's why kids get king hit and bash to death You get a fat burger from now on 295 with cheese or what they do that's a bit, isn't it can't do that Matt I nearly left. Hey, man. He was in my face.  Don't do that Don't act like that then then attack the film.   These are the what okay. These are some of the quotes from the film, marty Tell me, okay.    Yeah, dude. Well, I think I've got that. Do you have that one?     It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile winnings winning Dude, that's what that's so fun. You have any times have you watched it? You this is why you don't have a why you watched it? I watched it a bit when I was a kid because it was one of the first dvds I ever got given Yeah, wow, it was like gladiator shrek and fasten furious the nerd guy.   There's nothing What are you talking about nothing?  He would have reported that to the police Paul walker who's an undercover agent apparently a guy shooting at them. Yeah Do you watch the film? He goes they go truckers are going to take things in their own hands And that's what they mean. He's going to have a gun and he's going to shoot at them.  Yeah, I couldn't have turned it off straight away. There's a scene at the end of the credits where it drives off into Mexico You missed it.     That's what he says He goes from here to the train lines a quarter mile like green.   Do you know they did that crush for real? They had a little thing and they actually flipped the car and they actually drove under it That is actually pretty cool. All right. That's I'm done.  You made me watch horse soldiers It is a one out of ten. You gave it one out of ten. You've given everything but the musketeers As like below zero So yeah, well, maybe it's a zero two You've you've hated this film from the sound of it a lot yet You're giving it a one. That's very confusing.  I knew it. Paul walker is sexy Okay. Yeah, he is That's it. That's all I liked about it. So what do you give it out of ten one one make is it a five? All right. What's what's the next movie for next week? Um, it's one of my all-time Planet of the apes. No, but that's a good one. I should put that in the course. You like that. Um, have you seen it? No, it's Watch that which one the one with charlton hesson or the one I don't know what you lost me. You immediately lost me when you said which one so gross, man God, which one actually there's three. So you got charlton hesson, which is all you've got mark wallberg Which is the tim bird. What is he watching and then you've got the one with uh, that guy who got done for like touching You're we're losing our audience right now. Sorry Oh, man.   Can't yeah prank call time Darin will be calling a cake shop and he will be wanting them to have a compartment within that cake So he can smuggle drugs into his prison because his wife's in there for sexually assaulting his neighbors fish Wow, oh, what's her name?  She sounds swedish Mom was just on meth when she named her and that's the sound that she was screaming from her hospital bed As she was going through extreme withdrawals.  Hey guy um these Yeah, these do lock um custom cakes and that lock if I like have locked us on and that if I have locked my Unders on can use do that for me. Is that something you blacks do or not? Or when you need it What's that? What's that ball? Uh, when do you want to pick up when you need the cake or needed done ball lock midday tomorrow right, but But tomorrow No, okay, well when's the earliest use can do like just listen to me first right because it's not that big It's not much. You don't need to do much to it.  And then hollow out like a little bit in the middle of the cake Right and then make it look like there's no hole in the side of it, right? Because I've got like my own special ingredient, right? I'll come in once you's had done the hole I'll put my special lock Uh, like a little bag of like flour in that in the middle of the cake But then you's got to close the hole So that I can take the cake to my wife. She's she's in prison at the moment She's in over at wake hole and it's her birthday to like two days, right? So I want to take the cake to her, right? But I want my gift to be in the middle of the cake. Does that make sense or like not not not not yet, but Uh, the thing is that like for tomorrow, it's not going to be possible because so, you know, like a uh For custom cakes, they need like at least five working days Right. No, I'm saying like what whatever cake you's got there I'm saying just just take some of the middle bit out of it, right? So you don't need to make a brand new cake You just you just take a bit out of the middle and then I'm going to put more present to my wife In the middle of the cake and then you just put cake over the top of it. Do you know what I mean? So you can't so it's like you can't see that there's a present in the middle of the cake Does that make sense like so it's like a normal cheesecake When we make in a hole, uh It's going to be hard to fix up the cake at the top part. They're going to be look down. No, no, no top part I'm talking like Eva on the bottom right or a little door on the bottom of it Or like a little door on the side right and then I can I can stick me like bags of um Flower let's call it flower.  He's bringing in but then I'll give it a more wharf And then she like she gets to take that in um, and then when she cuts into it like she'll see that um I've put like my gift in the middle of it It's her birthday You know where is the ball like It's a hard one to make the hole at the bottom No, no, I'm not saying like a hole. You I'm not saying you leave the hole I'm saying you put a hole in the cake, right? I'll put my drugs in the hole and then you put the cake back over the hole Yeah, I'm just saying like at the bottom Is it going to be hard to make that like the cake is already ready there What about the side then mate? Come on. He's do custom cakes. What about the side? It's her birthday, man. I can't let her down ball Yeah, I understand but tomorrow it's not gonna be possible Yeah, that's right. Right.  Oh, do you have misses? Do you got to miss our time or what? No, like I have proper decorator. She's not here at the moment, but like Yeah, but do you got to miss out home? You got a wharf or what? No, no, like I'm single at the moment. You're single at the moment.         Do you know what I mean?  So what's the earliest thing you reckon about? It's at least tomorrow is not gonna be possible Like at least by working day Like all right, so you're saying by next Monday You can do that cake for me And you can put the hole in it and I can come in and stick me little baggies in it And then you can hide it and conceal it so that no one knows we can't do that one So we can't do this one. What do you mean, mate?  Come on. You just said you had me back Us boys got to stick together, mate Yeah, try to ring up staff or so. Maybe they can do that Mate, I just called staff of store.  She said that you you definitely help me out, mate.  Please. I'm begging you, brother.    The moon's shining Reflecting a roll off it, right?  That's all I want, buff Yes, the way I see it is I'm not a decorator. The decorator, she's away Like uh, so I can't do anything at the moment What if I can't mean and you if I can't mean I bought the cake, right? And you just watch me Stick the meth pot into the cake and then you just put a bit of cake over the top of the hole I can't do that one. That's why I just Like that's fine. I've done it like By the decorator you can buy that cake you can make it whole you can do whatever you like Or look, mate. Look, look, I'll actually respect like what's going on Like I've come in I've come in a bit like hot in that and you've like sort of stood your ground, right? And you've you've said to me you're firm like you're firm and you and you sort of said to me No, I can't do it and like I've got to be honest with you, brother Like I I respect that like I understand what's going on now And like you're coming across as like I am like like true man And I want you to know like I've got your back, brother Like I I won't I won't push this night further, right? Because you've just earned more respect with how you've handled my aggressive demeanor. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, I understand your thing by what I'm saying Like at the moment the decorator is on a holiday.   You're my brother.  The way you stood up to me The way you stood up to me is really I'll love you. Okay. I'll love you lock I'll love my own sons that I've got six of them Kade Kade Kade Kade and Kade and Kade Okay, I look man.  I'll totally understand. You go to where I'll love you. I just I want you to know I love you Meth pops in cakes. It's it's nothing I'm gonna let you go. I'm gonna let you go as soon as you say I love you. Love me.  Please just tell me you love me before you go. Please. I'm on my knees I'm on my knees. Please you tell me you love me. Please. I need it. I need to hear I can I can listen. I love you. I love you so much. Please say it to me. Please. Please say it to me. Please say you love me I can't do this. Please. Just tell me you love me. Please. I'm on my hands and knees, mate Okay, man. Silent cross.  Silent cross. I can stand right now. I love you. I love you All my heart So close Oh, man He he can't say that. Maybe it's just like he just didn't love him. He's He's firm with it. Yeah, he only says I love you to people.  Yeah, like that's rough. I would have hung up ages Lately saying he's gonna stick a meth pipe in the cake Oh, man, I love it when you get so passionate and you stand back and you respect that He didn't understand that. He thought I was still having a go at him. Yeah, he's like Decorated on here. Oh, by the way cheesecake shop. No baker at one.  I love love that place. Yeah. Yeah There's good memories from at brown in that place Yeah That is so true everybody But look too the the winner at the end of the day is cheese cake All right guys, don't forget to like comment subscribe and give us a five star review on spotify if you can't please I'm begging you bro.    That's fucked. That's fucked. We're the best We're the best Say the best Say it If you don't believe it, then they won't believe it We're the best


Today, I'm going to talk about interdisciplinarity and prehistoric archeology in Romania. The aim of my paper is to explore the history of interdisciplinarity in Romanian prehistoric archeology. And its role in shaping archeological research from 1918 until today. Why 1918? Because this is the year when Romania became a state after the collapse of Austria-Hungary. And my paper will focus on especially on archeobotany, archeozology, and computational archeology. For preparing this paper, I especially used 20th century and 21st century scientific publications focusing on the main archeological journals of the time and on monographs. In the development of interdisciplinarity in Romania, I managed to identify largely poor main phases of development. The first one is from 1918 until 1970. And this is a period of collaboration. The second period is from 1970 until 1989. And this is a period of multidisciplinarity. The third period is from 1990 until 2000. It is a period of pre-disciplinarity and interdisciplinarity. And the fourth phase starts in 2000 and lasts until present times. And it is a time of interdisciplinarity and through-disciplinarity. So there is more interdisciplinarity than through-disciplinarity. This is why I put it this way. I call the period from the first phase of development, which spans from 1918 until 1970, the period of isolated attempts. Why? Because collaboration with specialists from other fields was occasional and mostly remained isolated. And these collaborations did not influence archaeologists' interpretations concerning a certain site. The results were just additional information. In the case of botanical remains, for example, archaeologists became more interested in recovering them only towards the second half of the 20th century. And archaeobotanical investigations were done by botanists, agronomists, who did not have any connection with archaeological field work. And their work focused on the identification of species without any further interpretation on the relationships between humans and plants. And very often, their determinations were wrong. So botanical and zoological remains in this period were mostly considered to be less important than pottery or tools, for example. And many archaeologists were skeptical about collaborations with other disciplines and the information that these could bring. The second period spans from 1970 until 1989, which is the year when communism collapsed in Romania. So this is the period when archaeometry starts to develop in Romania in a systematic and more organized way. And the investigations focused on dating, fellow environment, and conservation. Especially three fields developed in this time, archaeozoology, archaeobotany, and computational archaeology. I'm going to talk about each of them. And I'm going to present the key specialists in these fields who actually contributed to the development of these fields, the institutions to which they belonged, and very brief geographical information because there is something common in the biography of each of them. They each had key research states outside Romania. And these research states actually influenced their careers. So when they came back, they actually started working on the fields in the research lines in which they specialized outside Romania. So for archaeozoology, we have two women, Alexandra Bolomey and Olga Nekrasov. The first picture is that of Alexandra Bolomey and the second one, that of Olga Nekrasov. Alexandra Bolomey worked at the Vasile Porvan Institute of Archaeology and Bucharest, and Olga Nekrasov at the Faculty of Biology. So they were both, Olga Nekrasov was a biologist, and Alexandra Bolomey a zoologist. I'm going to talk. I'm mostly going to talk about Alexandra Bolomey. She was a zoologist, and during her bachelor's studies, she started participating in archaeological excavations. That was in the early 50s. And after graduating, she started working at the Institute of Archaeology in Bucharest and then at the National Museum of Archaeology. During her work in these institutions, she continued to participate in archaeological excavations. And in 1972, she goes on an archaeological expedition in Greece, which was conducted by English archaeologists. And after this expedition, she returns to Romania and starts promoting the idea of interdisciplinary research in archaeology, which should include specialists from various fields. So she published her ideas in an article, New Approaches to Research on Prehistory in Romania, which was very innovative at that time. And she also started to use ethnographic analogies to better understand the relationship between humans and the environment. However, most of her observations contradicted the interpretations of the most important archaeologists of her time. So the results of her archaeological investigations were not incorporated into archaeological interpretations. These were mostly considered an addition, and they completed the conclusions of archaeologists. So archaeologists continued to prefer the traditional archaeologists. And this not only happened with archaeozoology, but as you will see, it also happened with archaeobotany. In the case of archaeobotany, the key specialist is Mariquin Pirtumaru. He is the one who deeply contributes to the development of this field in Romania. And at that time, he worked at the Vasile Purvan Institute of Archaeology in Bucharest. And then after 1990, he moved to the University of Turgoluște. Mariquin Pirtumaru became interested in archaeobotany in the 70s after a research stay in East Germany. And it is here that his German colleagues convinced him to take up research in the field of archaeobotany because nothing was known about it in Romania. So he received his training in Germany. And when he comes back to Romania, he starts studying a large amount of archaeobotanical samples. And he reevaluates previous determinations. And he identifies many, many mistakes. And in 1989, he finishes his first book called Paliuetne Botani, Research on the Prehistory and Photo-History of Romania, which was finished and forwarded for publication to the Romanian Academy of Sciences, where it remained for four years due to lack of funds. So his research was also quite difficult to accept by the leading archaeologists of the time. And he managed to publish his work, his book in this case, with his own money. So in several biographical fragments, he mentions the difficulties that he faced during his youth. Then we have Archaeological Informatics. And the key specialist in this field is Giorgio Lazarović, who at that time worked at the National Museum of the History of Transylvania. And he also collaborated with the Babisboe University in Pugnapoca. He is the one who introduces statistical and mathematical modeling, as well as databases in pottery processing in Romania. And in the early 90s, he develops a software called ZEUS, which was used for pottery processing. And it is still used today by his former students, despite the fact that the software really needs updating. His interests for mathematical and statistical modeling develops after thorough collaborations with English archaeologists. And such an archaeologist is, for example, John Nandrish from the University of London, who is an English archaeologist of Romanian origins. And in 1974, John Nandrish leads an expedition to Romania. He was searching for obsidian sources in the mountainous regions of Romania. And then he also leads an ethnarchaeological expedition to Romania. And this time, he also incorporates Giorgio Lazarović in his theme. So Giorgio Lazarović introduces the new information he acquired during these expeditions in Romanian archaeology. He lectures and publishes about them. And he also teaches his students to use software in archaeology. Many of his students are part of a generation that is now in its 40s and 50s. He coordinated a large number of PhDs thesis on statistics and archaeology. He collaborated with physicists, geologists, and computer scientists. He even created the Department of Archaeometry within the National Museum of the History of Transylvania. He organized conferences on archaeometry. And he was the first editor of the journal Archaeometry in Romania. So the three scholars whom I presented were young and enthusiastic in the 1970s. They had research stays outside Romania, which significantly enriched their knowledge and training. And these research stays were turning points, not only for their careers, but also for Romanian archaeology, bringing many innovations into it. So they established contacts in these countries, developing a strong academic network which continued to facilitate their access to literature and collaboration in international projects. Their students benefited from this network. And these students had also research stays at the same institutions and further developed the network of their professors. The period from 1990 until 2000 is a period of a new beginning. After the fall of communism, there was a general feeling of enthusiasm in every discipline. So new universities, faculties, departments were founded or reopened. And most of these universities had a faculty of history. And several interdisciplinary research centers or institutes were founded within these new faculties. And even within the museums. However, in many cases, these institutions were interdisciplinary only with their names. The previously presented specialists had a great contribution to the creation and development of these faculties. And several of their students and close collaborators were appointed at these universities and continued to work, continued the work of their professors, trying to make archaeological research more interdisciplinary. Collaboration with other countries was, after 1990, free and open. And this had also a strong rate importance in the development of interdisciplinarity in Romanian archeology. So the period which spans from 2000 until today is a road to actually interdisciplinarity. And I think that this sticker very well characterizes this time, keep calm, and stay on track. Romanian archeology is much more interdisciplinary today. And the results of such researches are properly incorporated into interpretations. In the last 10 years, several Romanian handbooks for archeologists have been published on archeobotany, sedimentology, mineralogy. And there is even a yearly Congress called Arheovest, Interdisciplinarity in Archeology. However, there are only a few persons in Romania who specialize in the fields that I've been talking about. Most investigations are still conducted by foreign specialists, who most often are the members of international teams working on excavations in Romania. And the presence of these teams boosted and boosted the interest of having more Romanian specialists as well. So we have now a phenomenon of migration. And many students who begin their studies in Romania go abroad and receive training in the fields that I've been talking about. Most of them, however, do not return to the country. But they still collaborate with their former Romanian professors. Conclusions. So archeological research in Romania started to become interdisciplinary only in the late 1990s. Before 1990, we can mostly talk about collaborations, that is between 1918 and 1970, and fluid disciplinarity from 1970 until 1989. In Romania, fluid disciplinarity was and is still often confused with interdisciplinarity. International relations and projects, especially with Germany and the UK, were and are still essential in shaping interdisciplinary and interdisciplinary archeological practice in Romania. So thank you for your attention.