This is our third segment of the day and we have a very powerful, amazing lady in the studio with us. Before I introduce her, she goes by the name Launa by the way. We appreciate the people who keep sending their feedback our way and today we had a question for you guys on Facebook. It went something like, how I say, how to earn handsomely from the comfort of your bed. Make up to 30,000 to 50,000 daily working online and then if you get to see the picture, you'll get to know why I'm laughing so hard. But some of you have sent their feedback our way. So Dame Hitchtown, Kirima Gettru doesn't say I agree and disagree but Kunazile, legit, and Kunazile is a scampia. I don't know if it's true, but a couple of months, I was able to see the difference between scams, online jobs and jobs that are legit. Thank you very much Kirimi for sending your feedback our way. James Chat Anasema, all I need is money because I went to their meeting last week and you paid 200 for the seminar. Afterward you pay 5,500 for opening an account. They give you a form which you write, names of 50 people, which is their interest. Wow, that is a pyramid scheme right there. Byron Okwanasema notes everything works for everyone the same way. These are hassle schemes which have raised successful individuals so at the bottom line, it's the effort one puts in to transform their life, his or her life by achieving their dreams. I can't condemn the online initiatives, but advice that everyone finds what suits you and do it diligently. David Kimani and some of those guys are trying to con innocent guys. They try to beat around the bush by showing how you would become rich. They normally say one has to pay 5,500 for an account to be opened, a domain as well. A month one has to pay 1,900 to keep the account active. Wow, David Kimani Pianasema India well tuned in. We will be sampling more in a bit, but keep them coming, keep them coming our way. We appreciate the guys who send their feedback our way so much. So without much further ado, it's time to introduce the main person herself, Lona. Thank you so much. Your camera is number four. Brief intro of yourself. I'll give you the liberty to introduce yourself. All your credentials listed. Well, I don't have so many credentials, but anyway. So my name is Lona Kanyoga, and I work for a company called 2D Limited. And in that company, I manage the Jijali program, which is basically an online career in entrepreneurship skills training program for young people. So I'm very passionate about the youth and enabling them to get the skills they need to find employment and to start their businesses. All right, thank you very much. That's a very powerful and wonderful initiative right there. But I think you've gotten a taste of the question we have on Facebook about these people who tell you you can make up to 30,000 to 50,000 credentials a day from the comfort of your home. Have you ever interacted with one of these kind of people? So for myself, I have not interacted with those. You've had the stories, the urban legends? Yeah, I've had the urban legends. Actually, when I was in campus, there was a friend of mine who tried to recruit us into one of those things. And so we went for the meeting and basically we were told we'd be selling products, some products to people. But then the catch was you have to buy the products fast. And then you sell them. So for us, we were really not comfortable with that, so we chose not to do it. However, later on around 2016, I was working from home. So I was working as a freelancer online and I was actually making legitimate money, just helping people with virtual assistant tasks and I would work maybe two hours a day and I would get my money. So working online is a reality? Yeah, it is a reality. But some of these things, this comes? Yeah, I would say some of these things, you have to be careful, you have to understand what exactly is going into it. And then also considering if it's something that you have to put in your own money, you do really have to consider is this something that I'm going to make money from or not? Because for example, if you're going to work online on a legitimate platform, your main investment will just be your time and some money for the internet and your skills. So for me, I think that's a much safer way because even if it doesn't work out, at least we didn't have lost as much. Just a little bit of data here and there. Thank you very much for the insight. It's your person who works with people who are looking for jobs and you have a lot of insight. Let me take you back to Gijali. The Gijali project. So the Gijali project is under an umbrella. What is the name of the organization? So the company is called Yusudi Limited and basically what we do, our goal is to reduce unemployment and how we do that is by equipping people with the skills they need because we realize those are gap in terms of skills. For example, someone who comes out of university does not have the skills they need to apply for jobs. So for example, they may not know how to structure their CV, they may not know how to do interviews. And so you find that not having that skill is actually what is preventing them from getting a job. Some of them might be really good at what they do. Yes, exactly, but then the thing is because you can't explain to me what you can do, then you don't get the job. Even no matter how good you are. So you see that's an additional skill that they may not realize that they need to have. Then on the other hand you have the ones who want to go into business. So you might have a business idea that's really, really good, but then you know with business there's the fun side which is coming up with ideas and things like that. But then there's the technical side. The reality.  And so now that's where the gap that we see. So with our program we hope to fill that gap by providing the support to young people that they need to actually go out and do what they want to do. Alright, so this was lacking. But this is still lacking. And then you guys came in to fill the gap. Alright, so my question is how is the training process like? So for Jijali it's fully online, which means again we live in a digital age. So all you need is again connection to the internet, preferably a device or you can even just go to a cyber cafe. So you go online, you'll find our content there. So we have reading materials and videos that you can go through at your own time. And then for us what you really emphasize on is the next step, which is the practical task. So with everything that you learn online you have to do something practical with it because that's the only way you build a skill. So that's the difference between what we do and Eat For Four. Because Eat For Four is very, you memorize, you do the exam.  Yes, for us we really emphasize on you have to do something in real life for you to actually see the benefits of what you're doing. Alright, so I'm kind of confused somewhere. The course is online, but I have to do something practical. We're going to monitor what I'm doing practically. And now am I going to do something practically online? So I'll give you an example. So let's say you're in the business module. And let's say you've come up with a business idea. You've decided I want to maybe make this kind of clothes. Yes. So what you recommend is after you've come up with your business idea is that you need to go and talk to a few of your potential customers and get their feedback. So maybe I'm making scouts. So I make a scout. And now I need to go and talk to maybe like 20 of my target customers and just ask them what do you like about this scout? What don't you like about it? What did you recommend? To make sure that at the end of the day I'm making something that my target customers actually want. So that's how that's a practical part. And then finally we have mentorship. So after you've done that, you've collected your research. You have some ideas on what you want to do. Now you have a virtual mentor online who once a week you have a call with them. So after you've done your research, you upload your findings online.  What did you learn? What was an interesting thing that you found out that your customers want? And do you still want to make the scouts or do you want to do something else based on what you've learned from your customers? So you see that way it ends up being a more holistic program that's very practical and then also it's very personalized because it's based on what you are working on. And on demand, you can do it on demand. Yes. Whenever you're in the space to do whenever you are free to do it. The big question is how much damage does it cause to my pocket? Yes, so fortunately for this year the program is completely free so you don't need to pay anything from the program. All you need to do is to go on our website and apply and then we sort through the applications to make sure that people who are getting into the program are those who are really, really motivated. They have some strong need for it and then we select them and they get the program. How long is the course? So it's running from September to November so it's three months long but then it's part time. So we recommend you put aside five to ten hours a week to go through the content to do the practical tasks, to do the mentorship but other than that you can do it whenever you're comfortable. Wow, is there a certification after all this? Do you get certified? Yes, you do get a certificate so for the career module get a certificate for the business module get a certificate and while you do get a certificate for us, in our opinion the benefit is not even the certificate the real benefit is the skills you have. So for example, you go through the program and now you're able to say, wow, I'm finally hearing back from interviewers or I finally figured out what was wrong with my business and now it's back on track. So you see in that aspect that what you've gained in our opinion is even more important than the certificate although we still do provide that. Since the groundbreaking, how many students or how many graduates have passed through your system? So we've had about 400 trainees to go through the program and out of the 483% of them have been able to see growth in their career or business. Growth in career or business so they get responses from the employers and they also know how to handle themselves at interviews. It's not only when they interview part like for example, you also get to figure out what opportunities are out there because we have people coming out of school, you did this degree, but you don't really want to pass through that. So then you're wondering, okay, so what do I do now? And the good thing is we live in an age where you don't need to do what you've studied in your degree. I have a background in economics. We have people in our team who have degrees in biochemistry and law and all of that and yet they're doing something completely different. So it's more about finding out, okay, so what are my interests and what are my skills and then what gaps do I have and how can I fill those gaps? You also learn about how do I, once I get my first job, how do I make it a success? So what are the things I need to do to make sure that the first job leads me to my next great opportunity and I keep building my career. So it's not just about just finding the job, it's the entire career process and the same for business, it's not just about coming up with your idea, it's about managing your business, it's about learning how to build a long-term sustainable business. So we look at it from a more holistic aspect. All right, you have access to the backend of the website? Myself, right now. Like whenever, as a manager, you can tell me simple stats like when it comes to people who are trying to join the program, are they mostly entrepreneurs or guys who want to be absorbed into the job market? Yes, so actually, interestingly, more of our applications go for entrepreneurship. Although in previous programs, we found out that people apply for entrepreneurship because they feel like they have no other option. So it's like I've tried to apply for jobs and now the only other thing is to go into business. So when they find out that there's some things you can do to help yourself get a job, then they switch to their career modules. In the process, this is something you've seen. Yes, it's something that you've actually seen. So we do have a higher rate of entrepreneurship applications, but it also could be because for some people it's like this is my last resort. But on the other hand, we do have people who really want such businesses, already have their own businesses and they just want to improve them. All right, critics will ask or see. Yes, well, you're trying to help us bridge the gap between the employer and the prospective or the potential employee. But critics will ask, if there are no jobs, jobs are not there. How is this training going to help? So that's the thing. People say jobs are not there, but that may not be necessarily the truth. Because what you found out is that we have graduates coming out to have a specific set of skills and then we have employers on the other side saying we can't hire these graduates because they don't have the skills that we need.  So basically the challenge is that our education system is not adequately preparing us for the jobs that are there right now. So for example, you have this degree, but the person who's interviewing you is saying this person doesn't have any communication skills. They don't know how to work in a team. They're not proactive or they don't have self-motivation. The critical thinking skills are lacking. The skills that you need in the workplace are actually missing. So the thing is even on our side we've had times when we've had to hire people and I would say from the applications that we get maybe if you get let's say 50 applications out of the 50 if it's for an entry level job out of the 50 maybe 5 would be eligible for the role because the rest of the 45 the applications are just not good enough. The issue is not that there are no jobs that people don't know how to apply for the jobs or people don't know how to talk about the skills and what they can do when it comes to the interview situation because at the end of the day your degree is not enough. You need to have skills and you need to also have the right attitude, the right mindset to enable you to get the job. And I feel like that's what we are not telling young people when they're in university. We're telling them when it comes to matters of employment discrimination is this something that you're teaching people to deal with as well because it's something you're bound to face when it comes to being employed. So what kind of discrimination? There's racial discrimination women have been discriminated for being pregnant. They've missed job opportunities because they're pregnant and missed job opportunities because they're thick or bigger in size. So all these things happen in the workplace and you need to be prepared for this as well. Is this something that you've seen first before I have learnt it? So for myself luckily I haven't experienced it but I have met people who said there's actually a girl who came and told me I went for an interview and I was told while you have the skills we can't take you because you're too young and it was like I mean I can do the job what does my age have to do with it. But I think because you're just a young girl so you see people do face those kind of situations and unfortunately there are companies that have a specific way of thinking that does not really align to your values. So what we recommend is you should also as you're searching for a job also find a workplace where you will feel comfortable because if you do take that job and you're constantly facing harassment or you're constantly feeling very uncomfortable in your daily workplace then that's not a place that you want to be because you spend most of your time in the workplace so imagine majority of your time you're miserable that can even lead to mental health issues Vegas cannot be chosen though. That's what people say but at the end of the day you can decide to make a choice about it because it's your life at the end of the day because it's your life at the end of the day and you know like some things are really not worth it if you're every day you're facing sexual harassment at the workplace or ageism or you know something that's really breaking you down it's really not worth it at the end of the day it might be tough but it may be better to just go back to the drive board and also on the part you're talking about the lack of opportunities I feel that also more people should be open to working in smaller companies because people have this dream of oh I want to work in Safari Chrome and Deloitte in these big name companies but there are actually a lot of smaller companies that are looking for people so I would recommend that be more open with your search be more flexible with what you're trying to look for and you can actually get some really interesting opportunities out there. An experience in the process yes. Alright please remind them how they can get to find you guys online your camera is number four if I want to subscribe or enroll for the program what is the first step? So if you google us so the program is called Jijali J-I-J-A-L-I so if you search for that the first result that will come up is our webpage so on our webpage you can find more information about the program as well as the application form so just click on the link to apply and then we'll take it from there and also if you have any questions you can contact us to the website. Alright thank you very much I'd like to sample some feedback from the viewers they keep coming and thank you very much for sending them away so I'd like to remind you the question have you ever interacted with these guys who tell you you can make 30 to 50 thousand on a daily the comfort of your bed so Sophie Roux says those are rubbish I doubt they bore me to the fullest I used to say this is rubbish I used to say this is rubbish Benjamin Yone Dr. Shorek to know that that is a scam look at the Photoshop in the picture so the guy in the picture is next to a very expensive car Photoshop keep them coming our way we appreciate you so much and we'd love to sample them so your vision your mission is eradication of unemployment among us the youth so we have two visions actually there's the side of eradicating unemployment but also the aspect of changing education because when people hear the word education they feel like it's like something negative because they're thinking about homework and sitting in class you're sitting in class you're listening to a lecture you're not interested you know it's just something a lot of us have a negative correlation with there but if you think about it education is the key to so many things if you teach yourself something you're like opening up opportunities for yourself so we want to change how education is delivered because if you think about it we are an education company but our focus is how can you education practical and relevant for you so by relevant it means that you learn what you need so instead of you going through everything regardless of your interest three senses six languages focus on what interests you the most exactly and then to make that as practical as possible because it's not really learning if it's just something you're memorizing you have the theoretical knowledge but the practical knowledge is not there so what happens is now like when you look at our graduates that's why they don't have the skills we have a lot of knowledge we can tell you random things about but then the skills are what are lacking so that's that's our long-term goal to change how education is viewed and how it's delivered change our education is viewed and how education is delivered yes so the competency based curriculum have you heard about this yes or against it in some aspects I'm pro because it does signal at least some change because the step in the right direction step in the right direction because we've been in a need we've been needing change in our education system for a really long time so it's good that there's actually some some steps to changing it so for me I'm kind of reserved because I want to see whether it'll actually come out the way it's been planned because theoretically it sounds quite good so for me I'm waiting to see what the outcome will be but then at the same time we also have to consider that despite the CBC every year there's still the remaining it for four graduates who are coming out of university every year so this is a long-term thing so this is a long-term thing so we should focus on the problem we have as it now in particular well I mean some focus on the now the future we work together in unison to build a better future so another question that is coming our way from social media is you cover all fields so with the career module it's very open because the career module is more about it's not about how to get into a specific field it's like for example I did biochemistry and now I want to go into digital marketing which is totally possible so now it's helping you figure out okay so how do I get started in digital marketing what's my specific interest what are my strengths what can I go into so maybe now you find out that you want to do content writing so what do you need to do to start as a content writer so we have a session on what you call self-learning because we believe self-learning is one of the skills that everyone needs to have in this day and age because things are changing very quickly so the ability to learn things fast so now you need to teach yourself how to get how to do that job so how do I become a content writer what courses can I take how can I practice how can I get better and how can I apply my learning how can I get some experience that will help me to apply for jobs and by experience we don't mean a job experience could be you're my friend you're starting a business and I tell you let me do some media management for you for six months for free and then I have some results at the end of the six months that's experience and that's something I can now use to look for jobs so that's what I mean by it's not specific to what you want it's more I mean it's not specific to a particular industry it's more about what do you want and how can we help you to get there alright thank you very much for coming and thank you very much for the insight thank you very much for what you're doing for the youth at large and you are going to give them a message to those who complain to us we get a lot of messages of people telling us they'd like to work with us and there's only so much or a number of positions we can offer so you're going to be talking to them but before you talk to them what are some of these weirdest jobs you've ever interacted with that people do from home and they do them from home yeah so like I said for me I was a freelancer so I was a virtual assistant so basically how it works is there are companies or people that have so much going on that they can't do their admin tasks so admin tasks mean like booking meetings on calendar it could be emailing customers it could be doing some basic graphic designer so that's what I was doing but I was actually making comfortable I was making enough money but nowadays like if you just search online there are so many jobs that are in demand something like writing is always in demand I don't mean academic writing I mean the legal version of writing let's say you're writing blogs for someone you're writing articles copywriting research things like that tech is one area where there are so many online jobs because for tech you actually don't have to come into the office I can work on your website and you can look at it from another country we also have areas like even finance there are some people who maybe I start my own company and I want to hire an accountant and I find out that the accountant's online are cheaper than the face-to-face accountant so I hire an accountant to do my finances for me online yeah there's literally so much it counts to writing to the tech parts like graphic programming, web design to the creative side so like content writing even creating like what is it like materials for people's social media so today if you met somebody who studied graphic design and he told you I don't have a job it will be a sad story it will be a sad story because you can actually make money online like sites like Upwork, there's Fiverr there's Freelancer you can actually start your own car side hustle there doing your graphic design work here but the thing is there's a caveat to go thank you very much you've come to the end of this and you seem to be having a lot of information often they find you online so you can discuss this over the DMs or the comment sections you can actually reach us through our social media so on Instagram we are usudi underscore and on Facebook we are usudi limited thank you very much for coming we appreciate you Lana and all the best your personal social media oh my personal I'm not that active on social media but this is your time to shine I'm not that active on social media but you can get at least like 100 followers from now yes just tell them your social media so on Facebook it's just Lana Kanuga thank you very much Lana we've come to the end of this and if you didn't know Alex is coming up next with another interview you don't want to miss it thank you