Okay guys, so the next speaker, Wei Li, and the topic is microservices lesson learned. Thank you. Good morning everyone, welcome to my talk, and I hope we all enjoyed the session so far. My name is Wei Li, I'm a senior software engineer and team lead from Red Hat Mobile. Today I'm here to talk about microservices. So in the last past five years, we have been trying to build microservices, and we have learned a few lessons along the way. So I'm here to share those lessons with you, and I hope it will be helpful for you guys if you're trying to build microservices. Just some background information, we're from a previously, we're a startup company called Feed Henry in Woodford, Ireland, and Red Hat acquired us in 2014, to rename our product to ArchMap. So we're building a mobile platform to allow our enterprise customers to manage, build, and distribute mobile applications for their organization, which is a core part of a lot of companies IT strategy today. It's simple, it starts with a very simple monolith web application, and it's doing very few things. But over the years, we started building other features in. For example, you can easily integrate with your Lexi enterprise backend systems using OJS, and we have very sophisticated team-based access control system, and you can do drag job, code list, application development on our platform, and we have reporting analytics building. And also in the last year, we built our product on top of OpenShift, so customers can deploy the product in any infrastructure that they would like to use. With those features started building, our modernization started to grow and grow and grow, and it's hitting a point where there are just so many types within the application, and it's become harder and harder to add new features. A lot of times when we add new features, existing features broken, and also the build process, it just takes so long to do. So we're trying to figure out a way to actually allow us to solve those problems. And at the time, the microservice, it can buzz forward. So we're all excited about it, and we think this is a perfect fit for a product. So this is basically what we want to do. We want to just move our modernization into a new microservice architecture. You can see it doesn't look like there are a lot of changes. So we think, okay, this should be easy. So let's try that. And then that's the first lesson we learned. Microservice is not very large. It's very complicated. Here's some problem that we actually didn't think at the beginning. So the first thing is our current, the current process at the time doesn't really scale. We have the process for our CI CD. We have process for our service deployments. They don't work fine for our modernization application. But when you try to scale that to tens, to even hundreds microservices, the process doesn't scale. We have to improve the process. And also we underestimated the complexity of the system. We are literally moving from a single modernization application to a distributed system. Although we know that it will not be easy to do, but still it's actually more than we expected. And also the team wasn't really ready. At the time, we were good at building the multiplication. But there are actually a difference between building multiplication and building microservices. And a lot of the team members didn't realize and we just go on with building more microservice like our building multiplication. And we just end up with more multiplication. And also we didn't actually understand the impact on organization. So we didn't change the structure of our team so that we can make the communication a lot easier. And that actually causing a problem as well. And also despite microservices offer a lot of features, and in the long run we're gaining a lot, but it's still engineering goal. As from product side of view, they don't really care what architecture we're running. All they care is if you can deliver a feature. So there's always a battle between how fast can we deliver a feature and how can we achieve the engineering goals. So what's the advice? The first thing is think again about adopting microservices. Is your application really needed? What's your problem at the moment? And what's your end goal? And in a lot of cases microservice is not an answer. So think again and you may find out other solutions. The next thing is if you're going to go ahead with microservices, don't just jump in the water straight away. Think about what your challenge is. Think about your current process. And think about what you need to do. And then prepare for those challenges and get ready for them. And the last thing is it will take time. So you have to be patient. You can't get microservices over a weekend or even a month. Like in our experience we've been trying to do microservices for the last three, four, five years and we still can't say we're there yet. So it definitely will take time. So be patient. So the next thing is when we're trying to develop our applications, microservices, we quickly realize that we are lacking standards. It's not a big problem in monoliths because it's just single code base. You just follow the existing standard. But what you do in microservices seems a bit different because one of the benefits of microservice that offers is it allows you to do the best for the right job. We all know as engineers, as developers, we are trying to new technology, new technology stack for our services. And if you combine the two together, you end up with many services that are running in different languages, that are running in different technology stack. And you are having inconsistent code style across all those services. And also you will see the same code, the same functionality repeating in every service over and over again. And also if you have a relatively small team, you all have problem with one engineer working on multiple services because that means he has to learn all those technology and the languages. So the advice is try to limit your language choice. And in most case, two to three language is enough. Netflix is famous for their dedication to Java language. And also across those, if in those languages, try to apply the same code style and standard and build off some shared libraries for the common tasks. And also even when building similar services, like for example, if you're building a retro service using different languages, try to apply the same architecture, for example, onion architecture.  There's many open source projects these days. So once you have finished your development work, you need to do testing. And then we realized it took us a time to realize we're not testing at the right level. And so this is an ideal testing permit.  But we end up with this. We have a large amount of unit tests and a large amount of end-to-end tests but very small amount of integration tests. So what's the problem? So the problem is there when you're building microservices, normally your one service was talking to many other services. And when you're trying to build a new question test, it means that developer had to somehow figure out how to actually communicate with all those dependency services. It's either took them too long to build those services or there are just some other problems. So, and also the other problem with that is our team structure. So we have the QE team as separate team and when they're working, we're basically following a workflow. That means when we're doing our development work, for QE people, they have to work on some testing so they just end up with building more and more end-to-end tests. And that also increases problem that we have. So what can we do with that? So the first thing is try to invest more in integration and component-level testing. So you can think about building some... If you have some core services, that is the dependency of many other services, try to build out some mark for those services. Ideally, it should be auto-generated if you are doing documentation-driven development. Also, you can try a contract-driven testing and it's very popular these days. Also, you need to limit the number of end-to-end tests. Ideally, just try with very important happy pass tests, the most important workflow of your product. And the last thing is a lot of people didn't realize this. You probably want to have an integrated HR team. So that means form a small team with developers, with QE, with ops people in one team so that when they're working on a feature, they can do the testing within the team level. So this will avoid that QE people and testing people building more tests at the end of your workflow. So now we have the testing and the next thing we want to do is to deploy our services into our infrastructure and then we'll quickly realize that automation is the key to the success of microservice. For example, here are some of the challenges that we had. So it's not a big job to set up the development environment if you only have one monitoring application, but it will become a big problem if you have 10 microservices. You don't want the developer to spend two, three weeks or even months to just set up a development machine. And also your CI CD, it works fine for one monitoring application, but if you want to try to scale that to many microservices, you probably will need to add a lot of automation to that. And the other thing is for service deployment, before our operation has a lot of squeeze to do the deployment of the monitoring application, but there's still some minor steps involved. Again, if you scale that to many microservices, you need to automate all those steps as well. A bit unique for us is because we're not doing the on-premise release, that means we have to somehow package all our microservices, different versions of microservice into one archive for the release for our customers, and that actually has its own challenge to automate that process as well. So we want to automate the workflow to set up the development process. What we have been using is we're using Vibrant and Chef Solo to provision our development environment, and that works pretty well for us. And for CI CD, probably you want to think about something like Jenkins Pipeline, and because Jenkins Pipeline is a lot flexible, it allows you to find a lot of repeatable, reusable stages for your application, and that means you can actually compose those flex pipelines into different workflow for your microservices. And also you want to build the DevOps culture within your team. So what we have been trying to do is to we allow our engineers to use our Chef scripts to provision their own testing infrastructures, to creating their own developing infrastructures, and we encourage our engineers to try those steps, and if something goes wrong, figure out a problem, and encourage the collaboration between development team and operations team, so that we can have a DevOps culture within the team. And the other thing is you have to encourage automation. That means when you plan some work, you need to think about how do we automate the work, and you need to add that time into your plan. If you don't give engineers enough time to do the automation, they will never be able to do it. So that means from top down, you need to have the automation mindset. And so now with help of automation, we can deploy our services into our production. But then if something goes wrong and customers are shouting to fix a problem, we want to try to figure out where the problem is. But a lot of times, it feels like playing the game of World War II, right? You know he's there, but you just couldn't find him.  So for example, some of the problems like this, so you have a lot of microservices and talking to each other, service B2 probably lock in error in these log files. But when you're trying to figure out where the problem is, you will have to start from service B2 and looking at service A4. And if nothing there, you don't need to look at service A2 or even service D2. So that means you have to go through this service dependent tree and figure out which service is giving you the most problem. And this normally will take time to do. And also when we're doing that, we will have two problems with the log files. So what happens is with so many different services and the different team will have a different way to do the logging. And we end up with inconsistent log styles. And also the other problem is a lot of the log message doesn't have enough context. So all we see is just a log message, something goes wrong, but nothing else. So that's another problem that we have. And also within this type of services, if you have a problem with the performance, it will be very hard to find where the performance bottleneck is. So what we need to do? For logging, we end up with just using the JSON log format. So it's easier to be passed by a lot of services but a lot of log processing services. And also we try to use per request logger. So it had to provide two benefits. So when you're creating the per request logger, you can inject in the user information, the request ID when we're creating a logger. And that means when you do the logging, those information will be created while we log automatically. And also another small technique we use is with the per request logger, you can keep the trace log logs in memory. And then when there's the error, try to log that whole log message to log file. And it's extremely useful if you have some problem that you can only produce in production environment. Then distribute tracing. So the simple thing you can do is making sure you have request ID inject at your edge of your API calls and making sure that request ID is passed along your call stack. And then if you have a central place to process the logs, you'll be relatively easy to figure out what services are going through your call, your applications. But again, you should try something more advanced like Twitter Zipkins or Red Hat Hocular. Also, you need to try to making sure you are measuring everything to collect enough metrics. But again, you have to making sure you have the infrastructure in place and also have the libraries in place to encourage developers to collecting metrics for their services. The next thing is we realize that documentation is a map for developers in microservices and it is foundation for team collaboration. But what normally happens is, as developers, we don't like to write documentations. I have them made on my website as well. It's very hard to get done. And also the other problem is when you make a change to your code, you also forget to update in your documentation. And no matter how many times you say, we still don't do that because we're developers. So, what you can do? So, try document-driven development. Some tools like Swagger are doing that very well. And also making sure you have documentation generation as part of your build process. And make sure that is part of your code review process. A lot of times, developers are reading the code but they don't read in documentation. And try to put the documents in a centralized place to making sure it's easy for a developer to find, to use, and to learn. And making sure it covers as many areas as possible. Like your high-level architecture, your API for your services, your operational manuals, et cetera. Making sure they are all in the same place. The last thing that we learned from doing this is treat microservices like cattle. So, there is this phrase, cattle not pets. Has anyone heard of it? Cool, okay. So, it's basically used by ops people to describe VMs. So, they think VMs should like cattle.  You don't need to maintain it. You don't care about it. I think it's the same analogy can be used by micros, could compare microservices and monitor application, right? So, if you have only a few modifications, you probably normally will have to try different deployment methods. You will somehow maintain them. And it requires a bit of work to scale up and down, right? But for microservices, you don't care. All you really want is just get them deployed. You don't really want to maintain them. And it should be easy to scale up and down. So, in order to do that, I think you need to use something like a container platform like OpenShift. So, that's one reason that we move our platform into OpenShift for our on-premise product. And we haven't done that for our SaaS product yet. So, we can compare those two and we clearly see the advantage that using a container platform will bring us. So, I encourage you, if you're doing microservices, try something like that. It doesn't have to be OpenShift. There's Kubernetes, there's Docker Swarm, but definitely OpenShift is an amazing product, right? So, to summarize, microservices have bright future, but it will be a bit easy journey. So, you have to understand the cost. You have to review your process, methodologies, and identified gaps, and be prepared and plan ahead. It will take time, but you will get there. So, thank you very much. And it happens to be the Chinese New Year today. So, happy Chinese New Year, everybody, and I hope you all have a great and wonderful New Year. So, any questions? People, can you please wait a little bit? Right, okay. So, the question is a bit more about contract-driven testing. So, what you do is you base, there are some frameworks that are acting like middleman for your tests. So, when you need, for example, if you have service A, you need to have a testing service A, which is depending on service B. This testing framework will act like middleman. So, your service A will send the expected response to this testing framework while it's doing the integration test. And then, when service B running the integration test, it will send its actual response to this testing framework as well. And then, this testing framework can compare the expected response and the actual response, and to see if they match. So, it's basically, you only have one testing framework to do the testing. So, all the other services don't need to know about each other. They only need to know this middleman there. So, that's basically how we do contract testing, contract-based testing. Right, thank you very much.


Welcome to Toffey TV, it is the start of an 11 show, Everton vs Brighton and the whole of Alwyn. Good of some park, let's get into it. Jordan Pickford in goal, no worries. Right back, Seamus Coleman, obviously our number one. Right back and obviously John Joe Kenny has suffered an injury as well so he's going to be out for the best part of a month another defence of injury so Seamus who came on obviously in the week against West Ham United and was great, wasn't he? Mostly for the second half so he will continue at right back. Left back, Luca Dean, great again in the week playing centre back but obviously we will be back to playing left back. Been brilliant so far this season, very understated but very very very good. Always calm with the ball defensively and going forward so he will obviously continue at right left back even though it's a shame really isn't it because on the right we've got Seamus and on the left we've got you know we've got a really top class left back and someone in Kungku looks the business as well so that's just the way it is isn't it. At centre back Michael Keane obviously playing brilliantly set up the first goal on Wednesday night continue in the England squad after this and Jerry Meir also was on the bench on Wednesday night also being called off for the Columbia squad as well so he'll obviously feature in this as we have no other centre backs at the moment as well but you'd feature anyway he's had a decent start to the season and since I feel this is where it becomes a little bit more complicated due to the injury situation um no Allen he's missing probably going to miss this game and then hopefully be back for the miss side that'll be so Fabian Delph who I don't think quite well on Wednesday certainly in the second half replacing it seems to me like he is the in Carlo Ancelotti's eyes the natural fit to replace Allen you know and there's there's only really you know you've got obviously other players in there like Tom Davis on the bench or D'Corey but I don't think that quite fits the D'Corey what we want from D'Corey we want D'Corey up and down the pitch whereas we want someone to sit in front of the back for and be a shield and you can move the ball well I think Fabian Delph is the only real person you could do that at the club at the moment so Fabian Delph will do that for us uh D'Corey as I mentioned will do the job he does you know has been doing so far uh just getting box to box um being a live wire trying to do something at the other end but also you know those long based on runs to um stop the opposition getting it also very good in the air so we will continue doing that uh no Andre Gomez he's out for a few days as well I don't know if that's why he's being admitted from the Portugal squad but he's going to be missing for this one so Guilfee Sigarton seems like the natural replacement again he played in that role and has played in that role and as we're saying I feel like I feel like Carlo Ancelotti has been establishing backups for all our players so far this season and I think Guilfee Sigarton is Andre Gomez's backup or certainly they're vying for that spot obviously Andre Gomez started with that spot but um a good chance for Guilfee Sigarton to new uh you know he's done all right when he's come on um and he's done all right in the Carabao Cup game so he is the natural fit to go in there and play instead of Andre Gomez uh on the right obviously James Rodriguez is the player who starts there isn't he simple as that he's been majestic so far this season so he starts on the right on the left I've got to put Richarlison in there I know there's going to be a late call on his fitness but I you know we all know what Richarlison's like and and if there's a chance to play he'll play and I just want him in my side if he's not being counted out then I'm having him in my side it's as simple as that um it gives us so much and if there's one player that'll one play in it for Richarlison um so he is definitely on the left and up front I'm uh I'm going to go with Dom the Cavendon and he's done all right as near this season so let's hope you're not continuing no Dom's obviously he's on number nine he's in a hot streak of form he's been called up for England and um everything's going great so hopefully that will continue in this game hopefully so so there you go that's my start on 11 there's also no moist keen involved he's um he's got an illness apparently um so it'll be the likes of a woe be Tom Davis hopefully Anthony Gordon as well on the bench for this one as well so um be interested and see what the others I imagine unconquer will be on the bench as well because um because just the lack of defensive options we've got at the moment so uh yeah let us know your thoughts in the comments who would you pick for this game who would be in your start on 11 I'm sure some people out there will be saying Bernard instead of Guilffy Sigarton but I just I just can't see that myself so um show Bernard to be on the bench and um you know could have an opportunity in this game to come off the bench and do well so let me know your thoughts in the comments give this video a like subscribe if you haven't already and if you want to watch daily live videos exclusive videos join us on our page and the link is in the description thanks for watching see you later


Okay so welcome to today's session. As always before we get started we want to pay attention to the risk disclaimer. As we know trading any financial instrument carries with it a high degree of risk and you can lose more money than you deposit. And most importantly the views that I expressed here today are strictly mine and they're not representative of tick mill. Before we get going with the the charts today let me just briefly introduce myself. My name is Patrick Munnelly, a resident market expert at Tick Mill. I've been involved in the financial markets for the past 12 years. I wasn't always involved in financial markets after I graduated from university. I joined a city consulting firm after a couple of years learning the ropes in technology executive search. I left with a couple of colleagues. We did a startup that went through some pretty rapid growth and after four or five years I cashed in my stake in the business when we merged with another company. At that stage I had a bunch of capital and time on my hands and I started to explore my passion for markets. Initially solid day trading the S&P 500 in a market that was pretty much trending north and as is often the case I had some initial beginners luck which saw me make some solid and then some quite significant gains and as is often the case that beginners luck ran out and it led to me not just giving back everything I'd made but also led me to a six figure loss on my initial capital and to say that that was a gut wrenching and devastating experience is an understatement at the very least. At that stage I decided I need to take a step back and think about what it is that I was going to do and could I make a sustainable income from trading the markets. Using my prior skills I decided to go about identifying an individual who could ultimately act as my mentor and after doing some networking I was fortunate to be introduced to my mentor a guy over in the US worked with him over an 18 month to two year period not just focusing on my technical game and upping my technical skills but more importantly my mental game. It was a period in which I became far more self-aware and he really underpinned my mental performance and how to manage the mental side of trading and during that time I developed back tested rigorously back tested and forward tested a core strategy that I've been trading since then and I came back to the markets with a business plan a trading plan and the right mental approach to the business and since 2008 when I came back into the markets I've on an annual basis have been profitable I'm not concerned or emotionally invested in the outcome of individual trades my focus is not on the next one two three or even ten trades so that's on the next hundred trades because I know in that sample size my edge will demonstrate itself and so the data you can see on the screen is performance data back from 2013 because like I said when I came back into the markets 2008 over that five-year period I had some really some very strong years and and it was a time when friends and family saw what I was doing they wanted to get in on the action so I set up a managed account service which I've been running since 2013 and those are the figures that you can see for that for that service so that's my that's that's my main occupation I have a couple of other projects like I said with tickmills that market raisin producing daily market outlooks and charts of the day setups I'm watching you can you can subscribe to that through the tickmail blog another the other projects that I'm very passionate about and very proud of is effects career swap leading online education firm we develop retail trading talent talent taken through a process in a program I teach my strategies and then we we provide those successful in completing the process with a live funded account I'll post some links for for effects career swap for those who are interested in looking at that at the end of today's session so that gives you a flavor of who I am where I'm coming from and now let's think about where we are in terms of the markets those of you here the first for the first time today or just new to my my work I am I'm increasingly bearish the the US dollar and these are just a bunch of charts that highlights where I where I think we're going in terms of the dollar this is back in 2008 2009 when when markets bottomed it was obviously the back end of the the great financial crisis and when the markets bottomed the dollar topped and we also have some cyclic cyclicality within within respect to the dollar which tends to move in 16 year cycles and I think we have just completed a cycle top here another chart here that explains this in terms of how the dollar cycles and my view at the moment anyway is that we have come into a meaningful a meaningful period where we could see a protracted dollar bearish cycle obviously the corona crisis the trade wars are are underpinning concerns in the market and the leading federal reserve to flood the market with dollars and that's that's inflating assets stock market the stock market specifically at the same time then that's leading to softness in terms of the dollar another key dynamic that's going to start to become increasingly focused upon is the idea of a Trump losing the election and and Biden getting in and it's perceived that in an election year when the when the the incumbent loses that from a historical perspective the dollar has tended to struggle so this adds to this idea of of dollar weakness and specifically when you when we get a democratic president after a republican one that tends to be less supportive for the US dollar as as for the reasons you can see here with respect to fiscal austerity measures higher taxes less aggressive protectionist policies certainly Biden would would not adopt the same stance as as Trump with respect to to China and so this all basically underpins this idea that we could be moving into a phase now where the dollar is going to to weaken now obviously nothing moves in a straight line and we have seen a decent dollar decline at the moment we're going to look into the charts in a minute but i'm looking for a dollar correction in over the july august period and then i'm looking for another sustained move lower in the dollar as we head into the election i've got some information here from credit agricultural talking about flows in terms of the euro obviously the biggest counterpart to the dollar is the euro and and we can see that investors are starting to allocate capital into your into the euro zone obviously we've got a bunch of dynamics at the ECB coming up today and we've got this euro recovery funds which is the the great white hope at the moment and which is really been driving the the euro strength that we've seen but again this could be a setup where it's buy the rumor and then sell the fact when we probably don't get the the ideal deal or no deal is actually done at this weekend's meeting and then it's kicked down the road to the back end of july so what i'm looking at here in terms of the flows these are longer term capital flows so you know this isn't immediately impact trading decisions as such but when i'm thinking about structurally how i'm going to be looking to be positions over the second half of this year then i'm looking initially i'm going to be looking for a euro correction but ultimately i see the euro higher into the back end of the year i've got a chart here this is from city with respect to there the dollar view and and you can see they've got a bunch of annotation here but they're looking for a move down into the 86 level and and we currently trade just above 96 so you know there's quite a substantial move move lower and then obviously inversely we have the euro and upper euro targets at this stage on the basis we're holding our current lows will be towards 126 which is this 200 month moving average which you can see prices rotated around tested on several occasions so that would be the ultimate objective at this at this juncture looking for looking for euro strength one other factor to consider at the moment and why we've seen i think a bit of euro weakness creeping in is we've got a huge amount of option expirations going off about 20 billion this week at this in this 112-114 range so we tested just above 114 yesterday we're going to pull back we're ticking up a little bit again now but i'll be i'll show you another couple of charts that are quite interesting here with respect to the euro this is the how the euro trades around the ECB obviously we've got the press conference coming up for the ECB in about about 15 minutes here you can see that we often get some volatility around the press conference and then a pop higher but that tends to fade this is since legard took over this is an average of the of how the market has responded to legard press conferences this is the euro in its entirety the average and again you can see that we tend to get a tradable top in the euro in and around you know this Thursday Friday period and then tend to trade lower into the into the following week and so if we jump into the charts now we can have a look at what this means with respect to our our trading opportunities this is the one we want so this is the the DXY the dollar index and you can see we've got this ascending trend line support here we tested into it yesterday and we've got a bit of a pullback we're probing it again today if we can hold this low on a closing basis then what i'd be looking for would be a pop higher here in the dollar like i say over the coming four six weeks a bit of a grind higher initially targeting a retest of this descending trend line resistance here at the 9745 if we can get through there the ideal objective would be a move up back into prior range support here then we just draw that in for you so move an ideal objective will be into this area which certainly i'll be watching then for bearish reversal patterns to to potentially set short positions there now obviously if we don't get this this bullish close today and we can't hold the trend line and we close below then i'd be looking for a move certainly back into retest these prior days 95 66 but ultimately then i'd be looking for a test of this support through the coronavirus lows there that we saw on the 9th of march that was back down into 94 67 and from there then i'd be looking once again for a for a correction and certainly then back testing this descending trend line resistance again will be the first objective but from there obviously looking then at the potential for fresh short positions to target an ultimate break i see price breaking down through these prior lows and really getting down into these this 92 area in terms of the trend channel but ultimately if we think about that that city chart that i just shared just quickly go back to that you can see the scope in terms of the bigger trend channel that we get down into this 86 area so let's take a look at the euro now so we've got the euro it's broken out of its trend line resistance here and we're trading just above those highs now i could say i'd be watching the retest or certainly a test here this 114 97 got the weekly r3 114 95 so if we do get a pop here in terms of through the press conference with the ecb watching certainly tomorrow or later today to see if we get a reversal pattern because we've got some really nice momentum divergence developing down here and again not not that i'm talking about holding on to this position for a long time this would simply be a trade but i could then we could see a corrective move lower in the euro into into next week and probably some consolidation before building again i think to trade meaningfully through this 115 and ultimately looking initially for this 117 118 area as the as the next upside objective so looking for the potential for a reversal to develop in the today later today or tomorrow friday and that would be a short opportunity as as we probably get like i said this by the rumor the market's been bid up into this eurozone meeting this weekend and then we probably see some disappointments now i should caveat that because if we don't get me wrong if we if we do see this this fund come through and it's all agreed bells and whistles and the it's the the grand element of the fund is is agreed to by the frugal four nations then we could be trading meaningfully higher and i'd be looking for a straight move up to test this sending train line projected train line resistance up to 1755 that is it's possible it's not as as probable i don't think as to us being disappointed with uh with what happens this weekend and certainly we could see an equality move versus the last correction which would put us back down into this 112 1230 112 area where we could reassess then looking at long positions a couple of trades that i'm looking at here this is the dollar swiss we've got nice big outside day bullish reversal pattern from this retest of the support here at the 93 77 and if we go to the hourly charts i'm watching for a potential pullback here into the daily pivots and this prior range resistance so this would be the accumulation period and then we got the pop higher the first pullback here into this 94 26 could offer an intraday opportunity to get in with a nice tight risk reward set up there certainly watching for bullish reversal patterns in this 94 25 and we can then look to uh to target higher up into these 95 40 area so that's an intraday setup for those who are on the intraday charts i do most of my training off the daily time frame um another one that i've got that i'm watching here we've got this dollar CAD right through the sending train line support we're consolidating a little bit here this is a great setup because stops will be building below these lows so i've got an order position that i'm going to be running through 135 to to initially target a retest of 133 here in the canadian dollar got similar setup in the euro CAD obviously with this ecb we're a little bit more bullish we didn't get the reversal what i'm looking for in terms of entries with my trading is uh it's obviously i have this um proprietary indicators this volume wasted average price and for me to get in on the short side or to look at short positions the candle needs to close red versus the vwap that means the candle has to close below the vwap before i could be before i'd be looking at uh doing anything on the short side um let's see what else we got here i've got the ozzy card see we didn't get the close yesterday below the vwap we've got some nice momentum divergence into these new highs and um and let's see if we can get a close today just below the the daily pivot there 94 30 area would would offer again great risk reward because you can look at stops just above the high at this inside candle so i'll be watching that into the close tonight see if we close red and ideally just close sitting somewhere around that 94 40 area um what else we got here i've also got the kiwi card this is the chart i shared through the blog a while ago um we got the red closes here but the challenge with these these trades is this is what i've got running here is uh is a monthly vwap so this tells me what the volume wasted average price trend is on the monthly time frame and uh prefer to be trading with the higher time frame trend obviously this is daily chart so i didn't take that but one trade i'm running at the moment is the cad yen we've got um if we go to the let's just see here so this is the dollar card just quickly before i go into that cad yen and this is what i mean about trying to trades um with the higher time frame trends this is the daily chart this is the weekly chart this is the monthly chart and you can see candles are red um on both of these charts that tells me the weekly and the monthly trend is to the downside and then yesterday we got that break of the trend line so that's why i'm tracking this to try to take advantage of the momentum that's developing on the higher time frames now let's just change these to the cad yen so we can see uh the similar setup that i've got so that's the daily chart and let's see where we are the monthly so we've got a monthly that's bullish and a weekly but also is is looking like it's going to close bullish so again this this trade not only does it have the uh the candlestick pattern setup that i like to these outside bullish reversals uh or bearish reversals but also i can take advantage here of the um positive momentum coming from both the weekly and monthly charts as well so that so this is the filter i use for identifying more high probability setups um let's see where we are with the s and p 500 so we're testing opposed to this chart on the blog a while ago so we're testing we we've got a negative negative close yesterday but we didn't close below the v-wap so this candle is green on your charts on a normal chart if you look at it um the candle will probably be red i think um but what i'm looking for is a red close here this is then the quality objective versus the price swing high so this leg is equal to this leg not necessarily in time but it is in terms of price if we get a close above here so if we close above the 32 30 then the next upside objective is the 161 extension of this structure so that means that this move is 1.618 times this move and that would actually put us back into all-time highs so if we get a close above the 32 30 area then the the next objective becomes uh the 33 70 now if we get that close then that has implications um to my mind for the dollar which we would probably see um trading lower this is uh we're currently in this triangle here this is uh the dow jones dollar index equally weighted against the uh the euro sterling the yen and the australian dollar the other the dx y is the the broader basket dollar index um which is weighted against six other currencies the euro makes up the majority of that weighting so these are two dollar indexes um and i look for confirmations in terms of patterns if i'm thinking about trading these dollar pairs i want to see confirmations between between both of these dollar indexes really so you can see we're testing major support here in the dow jones dollar index and um looking for a close a red close sorry a green close to uh to confirm short positions potentially then in the uh the ozzy sorry the euro which is equally weighted like i say uh the sterling let's take a look at where we are there so you can see i posted this chart as well um we've been testing this 126 area we've been kicked back from there a few times now if you get a red close here today then we could see uh it is a sterling rollover certainly test range support down to this 122.60 with the next downside objective um and then the ozzy is the other components of this that so the dow jones dollar index where's the ozzy gone there it is so we're up here testing but i think um will prove to be uh some range resistance here this is the move prior to the uh the covid collapse so to speak and um and what i'm anticipating is again into this july and august period when the markets tend to be in in ranging at ranging wound um i've been looking for a potential pullback certainly back into this 68 20 but even as deep as the 67 area before once again looking to get bullish the ozzy um on a uh as we head into the uh the autumn but again nothing to do until i get that red candle close and then uh then we can assess risk reward setups et cetera see what else i've got on the radar for tonight we have the sterling cad so the sterling cad was a potential set up from yesterday we took out the um channel here the the semi-tron channel monthly vwap um was bare it is bearish the issue with this one was that the weekly one is um is bullish so um preferred the cad yen as a setup that had you should potentially have more momentum with it but again once once even once we've broken down here what we have the option to do then is to go into the intraday chart so let's look at it on the hourly and see where we are uh moving joins so um first first what i'd be looking for here is have we completed an equality move and you can see we have so this move could actually although looks very bearish on the the daily time frame um on the intraday time frame we've actually just completed what would be a standard corrective pattern and we you can see we're getting a strong reversal from here so what i've been watching for now is can we get back up into this area this 178 where we've got the uh the daily vwap which is represented by this this red line on this chart so if we can get back up into this area we get bearish reversal patterns then i can see if it's uh it's an opportunity to get in on that bigger daily time frame but certainly uh don't really be selling into this zone here because this could be the area where the buyers are stepping back in as we've just completed a standard equidistant swing correction which which looks something like that these corrections not don't always necessarily um map in terms of time and price but uh certainly when you get the price reaction like this there's a potential that this was just a corrective move versus uh versus the trend um let's quickly look at copper and go back to the daily time frame so copper obviously a big driver in terms of the commodity currencies and you can see we've been on a tear here in copper but uh this candle on a normal chart i'll just show this to you for demonstration purposes so if i take off the five period vwap you can see that candle was actually red but the reason why i use the five period vwap is to help me stay out of trending conditions and get them caught out so um once we get that closed if we get an inverse pin bar almost here um but as long as we close red we could see uh we could see some more selling in copper and that obviously then has implications for the ozzy kiwi and the cad so um just i guess to sum up briefly here what i'm looking for potentially now as we we head into uh the ecb press conference this afternoon starting in a minute um i'm looking for a potential pop higher in the euro and then i want to watch where we close tonight to see if we can get a bearish reversal candle that closes below uh the near-term vwap so close below 13 let's say 113.75 would be an opportunity to do something short term on the short side in the euro looking for disappointment really out of this uh this meeting this weekend in terms of the recovery funds um i've got positions in the cad yen i've got an order in for the the loony see if we get a breakthrough that 135 and i'm watching the ozzy cad the kiwi cad watching copper close tonight um and then see or most importantly if the dollar here can hold this support and break to the upside to confirm the potential for a correction so those are the charts those are the the flows and the the action that i'm watching what i can do now um it's open this up for uh for questions if anyone uh has a okay let's see we've got some questions here uh may you uh okay the kiwi cad let's look back at that one first i'll just take a quick sip of water here before we do so so the kiwi cad is obviously is in this ascending trend channel and we've we've basically just completed we we exceeded it slightly an equidistant swing move here so you can see this leg versus that correction into that high we've got that red reversal candle continuing to reverse lower here um the reason why i wasn't in this it didn't take this as a short position is that we're trading against both the monthly and the weekly um v-waps which are both bullish i'll uh let me go back to that multi chart and i'll just show you so if we change that to the kiwi card and we go kiwi card so you can see here we're bullish on both the monthly and the weekly timeframe now if we if we get a close here that we let we close below 8810 that would flip the weekly um uh weekly trend bearish and so then what you'd be looking for ultimately would be a break of this channel and then any move back into we test the channel's resistance with a with a reversal pattern would be an opportunity on on the short side to play with the weekly trend but like i say what i prefer to do is as much as possible is be trading with these higher timeframe trends as they provide uh you know more momentum orientated trading opportunities um the swissie let's go back to that so the swissie has tested this support here 9370 we've held it a bunch of times we're a big outside reversal candle yesterday and what i was saying um for for those who are looking at the intraday time frames because of the hourly what i'd look for here is a pullback now uh to test the 9420 area and then i'd be watching for bullish reversal patterns i.e. a candle that closes green above the near-term VWAP where you can set long positions with a tighter risk reward and then always what i'm looking for initially in terms of the uh the profit objectives is the equality move so if we if we hold these highs we pull back into here you can see that the the initial objective for me only from where we bottom would be the equality move and then the 161 extension is that uh is that help uh anonymous attendee um what about gold how are we going to 1900 um no i don't i i don't think we're going to be going there in in a uh a straight line as such let's pull up the data chart it's a pretty crowded position here gold and um and we're trading at the 161 extension of this prior move we're hugging this trend channel to be honest with you a close back through um through these lows here 1791 and i think we uh we could have a decent correction or a shake out when you get these trades that are you know the the darling of the market so to speak they're very crowded um and we're not quite seeing we're starting to lose momentum here you can see the momentum studies down here are diverging and we're struggling to make and sustain new grounds so i'm actually i'd be in intermediate term uh short term bearish what i'd be looking for them would be an equality move so i mean i can easily see us trading back down to 1725 before then looking to build uh the potential for another leg higher but i don't at this stage see uh see us breaking meaningfully higher um so i think i mean in the long run yeah i you know i there's certainly a case for for gold higher with these uh with these central banks just uh peddle to the medal so to speak with respect to liquidity measures so i do see the case for gold going higher the long term but at this juncture here and now the next trade for me in terms of gold would actually be on the short side before reload before you could look to reload on the long side from better better levels is my uh is my take on it annult um hoisin asks uh euro yep so like i said the euro for me um i'm looking for a bearish reversal today or tomorrow and i think what i will anticipate we're going to see is a corrective move into uh july and sorry into the back end of july in august if we go back to the presentation you look here these are seasonal performances and you can see that august has a tendency to be relatively weak for the fx majors and um and the dollar tends to fare okay so again during july and august where you've got thinner markets you haven't got as many uh many traders at their desks you can expect markets to range and so that's why you know i can see us you know depending upon the outcome of this this this this weekend but certainly the if we think about historical uh historically similar type uh events with the euro zone tends to be a bit of a disappointment don't get me wrong i mean they're they're certainly going to have this fund um but i just don't see it all being smooth sailing it's it's probable or possible certainly that candidates kick down the road and they're going to have another meeting at the end of end of july um and that would allow for some consolidation in the euro so at this juncture the next trade um for me would be uh i'd be looking on the short side but i'm up but after we get through the summer i get i'll be very bullish uh the euro sterling uh etc as i you know as i have a very uh or i i perceive that there are a lot of downside risks to the dollar heading into september october and the the election in november let's see do i have any other questions um did you get that hoisin okay does anyone else have a chart they want me to take a look at you can type into the chat or into the q&a box and i'll uh i'll take a look at any any charts that i haven't covered this week um i tend to just uh what i what i like to do in these sessions is give you a you know an overview of the market dynamics flows etc and then just look at the specific setups really that i'm uh that i'm tracking at the moment and trades i'm in and uh and we'll update you accordingly okay if there aren't any other questions i'd like to thank everybody for their time i hope this is this has been useful for you like i say we're going to be doing these every thursday same time and i'll update you each week on the trades that i've identified in the prior week uh let you see the good the bad and the ugly um like i say focus on process process over outcome just playing the probabilities okay thanks very much everyone and uh and have a good week


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All right. And there we are with our happy peppy music. Welcome. I'm Alan Levine and we are live now on YouTube for our first show of today. We're doing two of them hoping to bring you the stories and the people behind some past open educational awards for excellence. So we have a great lineup here and we even have a sneaky guest who came into the studio somehow. And again, this is something that we do and this is purely conversational. There are no slide decks. There are no presentations. Just a chance to meet some colleagues.  And so welcome to the show. And we're going to bring on everybody. If I click all the buttons right, I think I have two people. So welcome again. Here you are in the studio. Again, this is OEG live. I'm Alan Levine and we have with us people who have previously won or been associated with open education awards for excellence. For anybody in the YouTube studio, no, to respond to the question in chat, the slide decks need to stay outside for now. But feel free to flip through them if you're really bored. And so I really want to welcome, first of all, colleagues, Saurav and Anusha, who are tuning in from India. They got an invitation like yesterday and they agreed. And so I'm going to ask Saurav first and then Anusha to say hello. And I'm going to embarrass Anusha because she started calling in from a car and she's just in the hotel. So welcome, Saurav. Tell us where you are and a little bit about the work that you do.  There we go. Yeah. Hi, Alan. Hello, everyone. Yeah. So right now I'm in Delhi and mostly my work is directly with government advisory and intervention design implementation mostly. And my past association and also my current association with connected learning initiative clicks, where I try to push those processes, those products and the school management issues into many states, intervention states. Here in India, we try to implement the clicks program in six participating states. And me and Professor Anusha Ramnathan was trying to anchor those initiative in the intervention sites. So in the past, I think Alan in 2019, when we own this award, at that time, we in a very pilot phase, we try to push open education resources into school, into entrepreneurial areas, into remote spaces. And we try to understand from our learnings. But over the period of time, we pushed the boundaries and currently we are working more than 5000 schools in India. And also Anusha will share more about our international collaboration where we try to evaluate those resources and put that into Tanzania, Bhutan, Maldives and other geographies. Thank you so much. I definitely want to hear more about the 5000 reach that clicks is having. And we're going to bring on Anusha, your colleague on this project. Hello and welcome. And where are you right now Anusha? I reached my hotel room. I'm very efficient. Or maybe the system is. So we could go from airport to hotel room to half an hour in some states. Thank you for having us on. We're very pleased and excited to be a part of the Open Education Consortium. And in fact, you know, we have been part participating in some of the seminars, webinar conferences. And we came to know about it largely through our work with MIT, the Massachusetts University Institute of Technology in Boston. But we have learned a lot about open education resources. And as sort of a saying working with low resource context, sometimes some of our machines in places in some states are very old by 10 years old as computers. When we started the work in 2015. And we said we need to change them. And we are in 2023. And we are still working with those same machines. So I think I don't know whether I should sometimes feel, you know, feel disheartened that the machines have not changed or feel happy that they have still managed to serve purposes and bring education and technology to children who are very excited to sometimes just wear an earphone headset and speak into the mic, hear their voices recorded and, you know, enjoy the aspect of being not just consumers, but also producers. And that was really some of the goals that the Clicks journey has been in. But as sort of a saying, we have grown since then. We have grown into other states from where we were in when we, you know, wrote for this award in 2019. We have grown to more states and to more countries. And so that's exciting for us. Oh, thank you so much for joining us. And I want to come back. I'm going to have so many questions to ask. But I'm going to bring on now, Tiffany, who just popped into studio and she's probably wondering what has she gotten herself into. Welcome, Tiffany. Just say hello and tell us where you're from. And we'll get a chance to talk about the work that you were recognized for just this past year. But welcome to the show, Tiffany. Hi, thank you. Can you hear me okay? Perfectly. Okay, great. Well, I am, I am here from Georgia in the United States. And I am part of a team that won the reuse remix adaptation award last year for our Open Textbook, Open Technical Communication. I'm sorry, I can't remember what else you asked me to do. No, that's why that's it. We'll come back. Like I said, informal show, we're going to get a chance to say hello to your colleague. Tamara, welcome, Tamara. Yes, Tammy. Or Tammy. Hi. Yeah, I'm Tammy Powell. And I'm a professor of English at Kansas State University. I'm coming to you from Kennesaw, Georgia, which is in the Atlanta metro area. And yeah, we're super excited to talk about our project, Open Technical Writing, Open Technical Communication. And I was really excited to win the award on the Tiffany West too. So, yeah. Excellent. Excellent. Well, we're going to come back and talk more about your award. I'm going to bring to the stage the guy with the big microphone, my good friend and colleague, Terry Green. Hello, Terry. Where are you? Hi, I am in my basement in Peterborough, Ontario, Canada, also known as Nogo Gwinong. And yeah, I'm here with co-conspirator, I don't know if I'm pointing the right direction, Dave Cormier. Yeah, well, this is like a great surprise and treat to have Dave here, who I've run into somewhere before on the internet. And so welcome, Dave. And where are you? And what do you do? I'm at the University of Windsor in Ontario, Canada. I'm a learning specialist here responsible for a special project.  And it was super fun. I'm excited to talk about that too. And it's very lovely to see you, CogDog, and the rest of you as well. I hope you're all having a lovely day. Excellent. And thank you, Dave. And so with that, we've met everybody and we heard a little bit about your projects. And your host here doesn't know exactly what to do. So maybe you want to go back to Anusha and Sarov to learn more about exactly what CLIX is and how these students interact and what they're able to do with this tool that you've created. Hi. Yeah, Sarov can come in very well. We have been with Connected Learning Initiative as a project since 2015. It began as an idea in 2014. And it's really a result of a lot of collaboration. We thought as a connected initiative to bring to students integration of technology in their ability to learn mathematics, sciences, and English. English also because that's an aspirational language for many of the people in our country. It lands them to better doorways, to better pathways, to better economic conditions. And math and science, since they wear tools and open educational resources available, and we've been collaborating with some of the best institutions, not just MIT, but also within India. We collaborated with National Institute of Advanced Science, NIAS in Bangalore. We collaborated with HBCSC, Homi Baba Centre for Science Education, Eklavya. So it is really an amalgamation of a lot of people coming together who were very interested in ensuring that students of 8th, 9th, and 10th in high schools in government high schools in India, which are one of the most lower resourced contexts, are able to access technology. So what happens is there are 10 computers that are under an ICT scheme that we have from 2005. They're distributed to schools and each school has about 10 computers, had about 10 computers then. And we thought we could get them to use these computers to learn and fall in love with subjects that they may otherwise not have been as enamoured with. And you also have to understand in India we are a highly populated country, just the number one in the world in that. So the device access ratio to one device to students would be about sometimes one is to 10, one is to 5, a good system, a good school is one is to 3. And so we thought we will use this low resource context and ensure that we build in collaboration into the design that we make. So if you look at the connected learning tools and there are many, there are modules that are available to download on the clicks.dis.edu. And they all talk to the student and say discuss with your partner and come back and answer this question or try this activity or there is a game of betting whether the kitty will run first or you know the machine will make the going forward and backwards. It's a physics principle game which takes them on gambling tours but they have to bet with their friends ahead of time. So we thought that those could be the kinds of affordances we could give. And thank you, thank you for putting that up. But yeah, this is the modules are available on something that's called clicks OER.dis.edu. They are also available. So anyway, they are that's where I started off with them sort of if you wanted to add or if you have some other question, Oh, I don't know. And anybody else is willing to jump into this is exciting to hear. So this is a device that the students share access to in the school or does it sort of operate as sort of a standalone local. I've seen some of these projects where low resource areas will create something that works over the internet without being connected to the internet. But this sounds more like it's designed to be used between multiple students, which is a really fascinating design problem. And I'm certainly interested in learning more about how you design those kind of activities. So they are it's basically sort of is more the engineer than I am. I'm a language person. But I'm sure he'll jump in if I go off. These are designed modules that can be working online on a browser which you can have available on the site or they could be downloaded onto your computers. It works on windows and Linux only. And they could be downloaded. They work in the school in a server system. So they are all connected on the land. And so students could talk to each other have discussions where they could comment on each other's work. And so they got an internet without in it. So it was an intranet based module rather than internet. But they got that experience of the internet. Many of these schools are in places where your cell phone will not work even for just making regular calls like you won't have a 2G network. You have to get out for two, three kilometers and sometimes just about even sometimes two miles and and then you know you get a signal. So we couldn't do internet all the time. But this helped them get that feel and experience. For the design of the modules it was more in terms of how the facilitation occurred where the students were encouraged to talk to each other before they played a game or discuss with each other about angles or about the story that they heard and they had to choose and play. So it was not in terms of the modules were not have not been designed to be assessment tools. They are teaching and learning tools so students can try over and over again. So their chances they will come in record themselves then hear themselves not like what they have said go back erase it rewrite their script the script that we are now sharing kind of and then go over and rewrite and speak and record. So these are some of the activities I'm giving you us glimpses of English or maths or science. Oh yeah fantastic. This is great and again like I could ask a lot of questions and we want to give room to come back to ask more questions about clicks and definitely deserving of this award in 2019 and it's wonderful to see where it's gone. I'm going to shift to Tiffany and or Tammy that talk about the OER the open technical communication project that you worked on. Can you tell us how this came about and what it well tell us what it is. Sure yeah I can I can tell you that part and and then Tiffany can catch you up on what's going on with it now. So in 2015 the state of Georgia I don't think it was 2015 launched affordable learning Georgia and they called for faculty to create textbooks to share with students for free and so you get a small grant and then you create this these open resources. I have wanted to create a textbook a tech writing textbook partially because I've taught it for years and I saw the prices on the textbooks that I was using just they were skyrocketing and technical writing intro to technical writing is like intro to french I mean you don't need a new version every year it was getting way out of hand I thought and I and also felt like I was having to update my class every semester for these changes when they would maybe swap chapter four and chapter six and then next year swap it back I mean so for all these reasons I felt like we needed an affordable option and David McMurray had written an online technical writing several years before that it had it had fallen out of date he didn't quite finish it and so I thought if we could get a grant to remix and revise and add to that source that would be great so we did get the grant as Tiffany said we were a team of four and Tiffany was the instructional designer on the project and really managed it and so we we put out the first version of OpenTC which you have the link to there in the chat since then it's gone through several revisions and I think at this point I'll turn it over to Tiffany to talk about the changes. Yeah so for the last few years I guess probably I think probably since just after the initial launch I've been doing most of the management and sort of updating of that project and it's gone through so many iterations at this point and none of them really got new names so you know they they weren't considered like you know version two or anything it was just you know okay we updated and so it did have one name change the original textbook had sort of a working name that we just kind of didn't change for a few years and then and then we updated it to this open technical communication and this is that's sort of what we decided to stick with and I think it works for us. The initial you know the original one was created in a program called Softchop and we updated with the same program a few times I think maybe two or three times each time getting better with both design and accessibility and and also consistency and and then I I guess it was about two years ago maybe two and a half years ago I moved it into Affordable Learning Georgia's new platform Manifold we had a pilot version of Manifold that we were testing out and I at the time was in a leadership role at Affordable Learning Georgia so I had access to all of that and decided to basically use our textbook as a way to learn how to use that platform and made it better in the process so lucky yes yeah so we moved it over there and with that made huge leaps in design and accessibility with it I mean we were able to do so much more with it on this platform and the with that we continued also updating you know we also with my teaching department I teach in the technical communication interactive design department at KSU and in with our teaching department we worked with the faculty there to create materials to go with it ancillary materials and so we went ahead and did that we added those in there we had we've had student assistants make a quiz bank for us we've done I think three or four different updating grants on this project each with their own purpose and each one making it better we were also able to set up a an at-cost print version of the textbook which is run through Amazon right now just because that was the lowest cost option that was easy for students to come in and purchase instead of having to you know take a file somewhere to print it that way which they can also do if they want and yeah so I mean right now for the future we are currently planning on a an official second edition we're going to do some reorganizing lots of updating add a few new factors that are sorely needed and and the hope is to make that happen in the next year or two updated graphics yes updated graphics updated examples maybe some more student involvement so how many how many schools do we have using this now um in the united states it's at least I want to say it's like 50 maybe 52 that we know of and and then there are also maybe three or four institutions outside of the united states who have also contacted letting us know that they're using it and asking for our quiz bank which is that's how I track that I am I when people request the quiz bank I just keep track of those those people who are using that because if they're using our quiz bank they're probably using our textbook so yeah that's great soft chalk boy I haven't heard that one in a long time I do remember that and and great to see also manifold actually won an open infrastructure award a few years ago fantastic project from the the CUNY system and definitely has a lot of features that people doing open textbooks of publishing should look at and so great story there and and I'm gonna circle back with another question but hi terry hi how you doing I'm I'm doing well how are you yeah good good what yeah liberated learners like like do you get tired of talking about this um no no good absolutely not good before we talk about that I just I want to say if is this recorded yeah because we should watch the recording that when Tiffany you said soft chalk I'm pretty sure you'll see me Dave and Alan I'll go and we're all thinking that's a name I haven't heard in a long time yeah pretty sure it wasn't web course in the box though so um so yeah the liberated learner um is a it's a follow-up project to a project you worked on a lot Alan the original was Ontario extend empowered educators which was an open educational resource that probably nobody remembered to nominate for a OE global award that they should have and it should have it probably would have won because it's fantastic um but it's a it's built by educators for educators about how to educate in a digital age and so uh you know it was it was made it was great it's a fantastic resource and the idea at the time by Lena Patterson who was the senior director at Ecamp's Ontario that funded it was like we should do this for learners too and in the midst of the pandemic um Ecamp's Ontario came out with some funding through the Ontario government to create stuff like this and that seemed like the opportunity to do oh yeah let's actually do it let's make Ontario extend for learners um so we put in a proposal with I'm from Trent University but we had uh six others or was it six total so Trent Windsor um Cambrian Nipissing McMaster Brock am I forgetting one Dave that said that sound right yeah I might be forgetting one and I'm so sorry I don't think anyway so uh like people like me from all those institutions were on the proposal with the plan to do it for learners by learners we're just here to to facilitate the space for learners to make this for themselves which was a big push for it so we came up with the tagline that it's uh the liberated learner how to learn with style it's kind of playing on the myth of learning styles like those aren't real but you can learn with style and the idea being you know take these modules and you'll be better prepared to be a fully independent online learner and doing it with a bit of pizzazz I think is the hope and um I think Dave if you don't mind describing kind of the process of working with students because Dave's team from the University of Windsor really led the charge of of doing it co-creation with students properly and I kind of just aped that style as Dave went yeah I I'm not sure why the grumpy old man was invited along with the project but I was fortunately it was a super cool project to work on I am I am super passionate about student involvement but a particular kind of student involvement I think a lot of the work that we end up doing with students is unfair to the position that students are in we ask them to be experts in things that they simply can't be right and we expect work out of them that isn't fair and in this case Terry set us up with enough time and enough sort of graduated work and enough patience really to give us a chance to do a couple things one we had a chance to do a variety of iterations with the students I had students working for me during the pandemic inside our office there students who normally could be going out on co-op projects who needed other positions so I ended up getting a lot of students who wouldn't necessarily work with us but it made it perfect for this project because too often you end up with the students who are the absolute shiniest students ever who end up working on these projects and they're not as reflective as the of the day to day students and while amazing these students were not like 99 average students who dream to be teachers in the future and that kind of stuff which is often the students we get working on these kinds of projects but just good students who were willing to do work once they were explained how to do it so there's a lot of training involved we got them set up to do to learn how to do a lot of this stuff and then also I think the wicked problems process that we put them through is one of the most transformative things I've been involved with on a project so what we did is I shouldn't say we what Terry set up just to be clear because he's he's really good at giving credit to other people and not so good at talking about how cool he is is this process over a week where students were were sharing their own wicked problems around being in school so not too often what we end up when we talk about helping students is we take our perspective of what students need for help but in this case they spent they wrote I think it's 60 stories or something Terry is a ridiculous number where they were talking about the challenge the challenge that affected them the most and the thing that was hardest for them not I couldn't find the door or I didn't know where my classroom was but deep problems that were difficult to address so we use those as our core starting material um yeah we use those as our as our core starting material to develop not solutions but approaches for handling those things and sort of it ended up being kind of a lot of gritty difficult challenges that a lot of students have some great examples there the dog ate my focus Crayola markers got me through my first year university at school 24 seven my motivation is trashed some of their language maybe I shouldn't repeat but they're real student problems and we started from those and the students themselves work their way back from those to try to come up with different ways and different approaches that help them and also help the people around them address those issues so ended up being a really powerful project to be involved in by the end of it I would say the students were pretty much running it but we had a good year of lead time before that there's a real gradual release of responsibility in that process where there's a lot of training up front that I gave my students to give them an understanding of what we're trying to do to sort of crack through that societal like if you ask an average 20 year old what the problems are of school they'll all give you the exact same answer because they have socially accepted answers that they're supposed to give what we really try to do is dig underneath that and I think the students were willing fortunately to trust us and then eventually took over responsibility and really I think did a great job bringing that project home excellent and and it's continuing I'm sure and it's evolution and so one of my favorite projects not because I know Terry and Dave just because of its fresh perspective on really looking at the student experience I I'm like we could spend a lot of time I want to learn more about every single project here I'm curious to hear from everybody obviously it's great to get awards right you know it feels good but can you tell us just about like what what that meant for your project and and also maybe help make a case why people watching or listening to this later should think about nominating someone's project their own project or someone else's fern award so how did and not just to grandstand how great the awards are but really we're interested in hearing from everybody how this has sort of impacted the work that they were able to do after the work that they were recognized for so I'm going to flip back to Anusha and and and Sorov and over there with the Klicks project sort of you want to go take that I seem to I have a teacher syndrome of hogging the show yeah so yeah but just to say three reasons if you very quickly asking me to point out one is for people to understand how they can talk about the value I mean when you are kind of commenting and arguing for your own or your project or someone else's project you are able to pick out the pieces of what is very valuable to that project it's just the process of that is very validating it tells you and renews your faith and why you set out to do what you did in a way the second part of it is as you said it feels very great to be appreciated but in addition it brings about a lot of other connections and collaborations it gets other people to know about your work it gives you a chance to put it out on a platform that is perhaps new to you and therefore you meet new people and you learn how your work is perhaps a drop in the ocean of the variety of work that is actually out there in and the kind of people who are doing the work it allows you an opportunity to network and learn and do better at your work so those are the three reasons and I think we have taken all of those three in Klicks definitely we have learned how to network better we have learned how to present our own work better think about our work in different light actually because other people from other contexts asked us questions that we you know suddenly while we were answering them realized hey this is another way that we could shape our work in so those are the reasons thank you and I've been intrigued through all these stories I've heard that there's like a start of this in the mid you know 2015 era so the work started the recognition came later and then it then it's continued and that's to me like what what this work should be about I don't know if you wanted anything to that that Saru yeah hi hi so uh yeah um so I just want to get back into this the larger idea of this problem statement that uh continuously coming to us through Klicks program so in India the school opens in average to 20 days per year in a year and in technology it is very easy to intervene anything in general but when it comes to specific something which is very school-based within this 220 days is a very complex thing and through the Klicks project the larger idea is that how we can create an ecosystem where underprivileged high school going students can access to good quality content which is more open but the derivative result is very interesting the derivative is that the moment it starts thinking about open education in general teachers have picked that idea in a very radical way so automatically they go into different platforms search new content produce new content and the engagement with students over years is also very fascinating and more meaningful I think that is what a unseen version of the Klicks project that we recently realizing that in the initial inception it was not there but gradually when we discussed more with the teachers more with the education administrators we found that people took that idea and create their own pathways and their own stream of thinking and engagement with open resources yeah thank you so much Terry wicked problem you have two awards like we didn't even mention the patchbook award but like like how's this been for for you and in the work that you've been doing there in Ontario well I tell everybody on the street that I won the award and they don't care the crossing guard didn't care at all didn't know what I was talking about I'm totally kidding it I think for the the Ray Lerner award was great because it's like proof that Dave Cormier can carry any project like I'm on it to joking again I think it's proof that student co-creation can work like it's already been proven but like you know now it's proven so much that it got an award so that's what I really love about it and also I made sure to make everybody know because there was we have a credits page and there's almost I don't know how many but like a hundred hundred people or more on it that I emailed everybody I could from it saying we got this award put it on your resume so that everybody like anybody can say I was part of this so I hope they follow through on that because it's a you know showcase piece of their work that that has proved to have been good so I like that impact of the award myself what do you think Dave I think so much of the work that we do is ineffable to the vast majority of people right so like we're doing digital things with students on the internet and I think at some level people just think we're kind of playing with toys on the internet I think there's a whole swath of the university culture who just thinks of it is because it it often doesn't involve in this case there was a grant associated with a lot of these projects working with students don't involve giant grants they don't like there's no paper thing that gets handed around like all these things happen digitally I think having this kind of international recognition solidifies the work a sense and people's minds it gives them a sense that the work you're doing is not just you playing with the imaginary internet people but rather that there is some kind of community out there that cares about this and sort of gives it a different level of authority a different level of of meaning right so like we don't need that reputation that that sort of recognition for the work we're doing working with students we care about the work we do but in order to keep that work going I find these kinds of recognitions are super super helpful because I can say to the provost or I can say to the vice president academic oh look here's this solid consistent thing that actually makes it into uh annual reports and that kind of stuff and it makes it that much easier the next time we come up with a plan that sounds ineffable and sounds like it gives them some sense that there's value to that work so I think it's really important particularly when it comes to this a lot of the digital work that we do that's great and now we're spending all of our time with these you know chatbot things which is my whole life I know I know I know I see you branding yourself I'm doing sorry I will get started but Dave and I know how to push buttons right all in good fun Tiffany and Tammy so the the award for the the open communications book um no feels good but like what has it done for for the project and for yourselves as people in the field well I think for the project it definitely um it definitely helped us I guess reach a bigger audience um you know I uh I I did get a slew of new requests for the quiz bank right after the awards were posted um a lot of people very interested um at least in looking at it if not using it um it also sort of um ignited I guess the interest of in doing a second edition sort of uh pushed us to move move forward on that I think that it was always in the back of our head um but it it sort of gave us the interest to look back at it and see like what what could we improve even further on this um you know we've won this award for our amazing adaptations and updates and stuff so how do we keep doing that um and so I think that's those are the big things for the project I will say um personally you know on an individual level I am I am very early career still um I'm working on my phd right now and while I've been working in OER for a few years um a few years is not all that long in comparison to a lot of people doing open and so getting this award and um having that recognition is extremely helpful in an on an early career CV like mine um and and it also sort of uh it helps legitimize the these non peer reviewed works um you know I I don't have a lot of peer reviewed publications and so because and this is my biggest project that I've worked on and so having that award sort of helps legitimize that in in at least in the eyes of those who don't care about OER um you know so I I don't know if you have anything to add Tammy yeah I mean I think that is a huge thing that uh we were at we are at KSU and we worked on this textbook in 2015 and uh the ALG grant uh sort of forced us to push it out in about eight months and anybody who's pushed out a textbook in eight months knows it's not the most beautiful thing but Tiffany and I we have been working on it Tiffany really took the reins when she went up to the ALG program and still though I think at KSU we had this book but people were like you know so the whole it's the prophet in you know your own town not that we're prophets but just that you know well it's just Tiffany and Tammy like they have this book whatever um it did the book itself did help me get tenure I'm late career so not tenure but full professor um and so I'm late career and so I think for me it really legitimized the work that we've done it showed our colleagues that no this isn't just another thing Tiffany and Tammy did um that people are using it that it was recognized internationally um I definitely plan on using it for my post tenure review so I'm I'm grateful for that as well um but yeah I think as Tiffany said mainly it legitimized the work that we've done um and yeah we're now we're really like oh we need to update this and also we're looking at some other some other tech writing stuff that um we can perhaps create as an OER all right Tiffany you're well in your way you're your way ahead of most of us when we started so but but but stay humble um um open floor now is is there anything going on in in the open education world that that you're really moved inspired by or that you may think this deserves a nomination this year anything anybody's work or projects that that you've come across um in your own travels I feel like I can't comment because I may or may not be on the award selection committee moving forward so I don't want to sway any feelings out there I'm aware of some nominations come in though but but you should you're at everybody's welcome to to nominate um and we we um I hope this is this is the first year I've sort of been pulling the puppet strings on the awards program and I want I want to bust the database okay so uh just so you know the I wanted one of these for the open patchbooks in 2019 I nominated for that myself you can nominate yourself and win and end up in Italy in that case so just a suggestion yeah but that was a fantastic project there are many out there yeah but but you know there's actually you know there's way more projects and people in the field right now than there were even we started talking about 2015 and so um there's a lot of great programs out there and um uh if if uh obviously I'm putting everybody on the spot here I think um I think that I mean the the sort of aspect of open that I'm most excited about right now is the um you know OER has always had a connection to social justice but one of the things that I'm looking at with my dissertation um sort of as a it's not really the research that I'm doing but it's a big part of the exigency is that um sort of using the affordances of OER to further social justice so more than just um you know how does making textbooks free affect students but rather how can we use OER to do better um and so one of the projects that actually comes to mind and now I'm like well maybe I should nominate them one of the projects that comes to mind that um that really does that is uh there's a a an open textbook also with affordable learning learning Georgia that was you know done through a grant um that actually created a a need it filled a gap in British literature um focusing on African and Afro diasporic people and influences in British literature and because you know the textbooks that are out there for British literature don't have that emphasis and they really that's sort of a gap that was needed and so that was uh that's one thing I can put the link in the chat for that um great yeah that's one of the projects that just comes to mind that does that that sort of uses the affordances of OER to fill gaps where they're needed and to further the diversity and social justice needs that are out there fantastic and there is a there's an award category for OER and diversity equity inclusion so I'm gonna I'm gonna be emailing Tiffany every day to ask her if she's submitted that nomination and as well something we added this year because you know categories being categories we have a wildcard category so there's room for things that maybe don't fit in in any other category um and so anybody else have any thoughts even if you just want to talk about like not maybe award-worthy stuff but like what's going on in in your work right now and that's kind of you know got your fires burning for open education um I see people I'm just if nothing else than to refute the comment from earlier um so as I was earlier taunted my whole life has been AI for the last six months anybody who's working inside of a university you'll know it's the only thing anybody wants to talk about we just got asked today for the rules that people should follow for using AI in the classroom yeah I'm learning um but that's that's where we're at and so for me the the response that I keep giving people is the openness that you need to conquer this is already there right so that to me is the most interesting thing so for me when I say open there's OER but there's also open practices there's also widening participation like all these sort of visions of what open means and a big giant a huge tent we'll say and they use it to use the American expression um my open has a very large tent and I think that the response to all this AI business is that as long as there are no specific definitive answers as long as we're trying to understand all the knowledge that's out there and sort it and figure out how to analyze it and put it together in that open practice sense then this AI thing is just another tool in the bucket it really only threatens the sort of textbook practices right and I think that that to me there's an opportunity in open right now to really take this to a whole other place and I think it's really really exciting oh totally and um you know I don't want to delve into the topic that you can't escape from um but like um like I did come across I think uh Quatlin Polytech had a really great you know everybody's like scrambling like what's our policy and like we're trying to create rules and policy for something we don't even understand and it's moving so fast um and I'd be just curious for um because you know we're kind of in our North American perspective for Anusha and Sara of like what do you in India what is the conversation in education about artificial intelligence and especially for open education like the big question like I'm going to take that because when Dave started with that uh I just yesterday we had an orientation because our campus opened it's a new semester for us and we were telling them about the fact that their assignments have will be on Turnitin for plagiarism and Turnitin has now a new component of AI and then we told them you should have Grammarly AI subscribe so that seemed like a contradiction so we were telling them about how they need to use it intelligently uh but the conversations are very much the same as they are in the North in university setups because in universities the students who do come in have the privilege of being able to access technology use AI and so you need to maybe teach them how make them more aware of how they need to be conscious uh and conscientious users of AI so yeah that's a conversation there are a few naysayers who will say um no no no we need to get back into more there's a lot of focus on written examination suddenly coming from universities that we're going towards open assessment because they are now oh but if a student uses AI what would happen so that's a conversation going there but I would also state that in a lot of our states and I think we need to be very aware that in the global south the government has a lot of huge role to play in what gets adopted in the systems a lot of our students in the global south access government schools the number of schools may be fewer but the number of students accessing those schools are larger because a school may cater to many more students and in that case when governments sign on to acknowledge and state that they will use open technology open practices open processes um it becomes a huge thing it is commendable and there there is a lot of policy and advocacy required and needed and we do have some states in India which need the way we're working with some countries that you know Tanzania Nigeria Bhutan these are places where there is more of these systems and people are learning how it can be more affordable accessible practical so it is the conversations are changing and AI also is aiding some of these conversations so yeah sort of over no no this is good any comments serve yes just adding one two points with Dhanusha so in the teacher education space I think in few geographies in India so people seeing open AI as a opportunities because this is mostly people's picks teacher speaks in regional languages and open AI gives them a lot of opportunities and window to get into new world new articulations new experiences and people believes some of the people believes that open AI gives a lot of opportunity for them to create new interactive classroom experiences for their students and also in illustration instruction design as well so that's my proposition see we we can escape it and I think we need an award for like the most rational response to artificial intelligence and I'm still looking for nominations but that's not the topic of the show I just want to give the floor open to anybody who wants to add anything else I just can't thank you all enough to be for showing up and being part of this kind of crazy format but anybody want to say something that that would help people like say like wow I should get off my butt and get something nominated before June 30th for the 2023 awards well I have a strict do anything Alan Levine asks policy myself so if you take on that policy out anyone out there listening you should nominate because Alan and that's you too and it's good advice it doesn't take too long I don't think I don't pay Terry enough yeah I'm waiting for the courier with my bag of money it's all loonies Terry anybody else because I feel like I've been blabbing a little bit but I'm just so happy to see this group here oh it's very fun to do these kinds of things and learn about other projects it's very cool thanks for inviting me I have nominated Pratham story book Pratham book story paper there's a cool platform where people can come in and create stories and open images open great cc by 4.0 international license images and create their own stories re-level stories so a lot of our teachers use these tools and really like it and it has stories around the world so okay fantastic I think we lost a little bit of the audio there but I'm so happy to see that one mentioned and I don't want I love story weaver it's it's such an impressive project that I don't think a lot of people know about so that's what my list nominate if someone else wants to steal it and get in front of me they'll just get two nominations but again I want to thank everybody I'm gonna clean up my banners here and again we're going to be doing another one of these shows tonight we have Wayne McIntosh from New Zealand and Alejandra Ribbendaira from Colorado who are going to share their awards and anybody else who who may just happen to show up so I want to really extend my appreciation for people who have done this and I


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