addition. Absolutely right, assistant ref. Yes, that is in addition, which is really good. Importantly, fortitude of the earth. This unit has a ward of four plus against mortal wounds while it is contesting an objective that you control. Man, that's a good ability. Now again, it's just against mortal wounds, but these guys with like a protection of high show over top of them. So they're five up against normal wounds, four up against mortals, man, they're ready to go.  Okay, so I did say that right. Yep, he said it right. So it's not always going to work. If you're trying to play aggressively or like not everything, like you're almost going to, they already have a mobility challenge. Yes. They know that their opponent is, has the capability of reaching out early with those mortal wounds, say if like maybe top of a one or whatever, especially like in the mirror, I was thinking about how does the mirror work out? And they know that someone has tech, they're facing across the table with techless. You're already slow units are going to start the game on an objective to prevent from getting sniked by like mortal wounds that techless can put out early or something else. But the point being is like, you already, you wanted to be in different places. You, to take advantage of this ability, you really have to limit the ability, the amount of movement you're doing with stone guard. Yeah. Yeah, to me, these guys are great. I think their secret best friend is a wind image with the teleport spell. So he can like move a unit of them around as he would need to and drop them on an objective that's open and then just let them sit. And then they'll contest it, control it. And then when the enemy comes into him next round, they're good to go. Like they're, they're set with their four up against mortals and so on. Yeah, Tom, you hot on the stone guard? I am actually, like they're just doing everything that I want. They take tons of great buffs. They have a great kind of base damage. Like I just don't see how it's bad. Yeah, they're, again, the move, it's the move thing holding them back, right? That's it. I mean, I played dwarves. It's fine. Sure. So let me answer two questions in the chat. Manny, do you contest if there are no enemy units around? Yes, you're still contesting because you're still counting toward and whatever, whatever, doesn't matter if there's enemies around or not. And Gareth is exactly correct. They do not get the word, the turn they move onto an objective because they are not at that point contesting, right? Because they have to be, you have to get into the point where you, you check for contesting an objective and control it and so on and so forth. Like they haven't, they have not yet taken control of the thing. So their contesting doesn't matter.  So the first time that the moment they move on, they don't have it. As soon as the turn ticks, right? And they have, assuming they have gained control of the objective, they now have the word save. Yes. But yeah, these guys are awesome.  They'll get there. And you have tools. You can double, you can cast and double move them. Give them an eight inch move. Absolutely. A little speed of high ish going. All right. Talked about Avalonor. There they are. There's the twins. The twins. Martin, we're talking about these girls for a moment. They're 260 points. There's a girl in guy, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Power couple, the wonder twins. Ella, Ella, I am, I think this is a sleeper hit now. Like they were an okay scroll, but always overpriced. But I think we're finally, they're finally down to like, cause they went down 25 points. And I think they're now at the place where it's like, I really want to take this unit. It does require tech to use. Do you want to go through the scroll or? I'm not gonna, they basically function much the same as what they used to. The only thing, they are the only scenario unit without deep thinkers, but there's a built in buff to the sister instead. I made mine a husband and wife cause I made my own version. I was about to say what's not actually canon, but like instead of deep thinkers, they have a plus one to casting unbinding and dispelling roles, which is also good. They do have a key words. They cannot go into Zytrec and get a plus two to both, which is fair. And yes, there's unfortunate thing where the character gets better as the game gets later. And there was a mandatory teleport, which is usually why people didn't take them. I think there is tech here where you can move up, say if this is a power pair with Altherian, you can move up with two combat monsters and one of them can teleport away.  But that five up board, no longer overextended. It's like, ha ha, you think I've overextended it, but really characters here kills a thing, moves back and all of a sudden I have my five up board again where I need it to be. It always did this, but again, I think it's like we're at a price point now where I like it. It has a bad signature spell. I mean, it's good if you're outlying this into other armies, then it can protect itself, but you're usually gonna be casting protection at a price with this model. Yeah. Tom, where are you at with these guys? I mean, I've always loved them. I wanted to run them. I like them better, cheaper, right? Like, that's, I like cheaper units. They in general, they are, they still I think suffer from having a function. Sure. Of like defining the role of what they actually do. Yeah, they don't have a real clear defined role. I actually think they probably are better as allies than as, you know, like, just because they serve a better function there than how they're serving here. Sure. I'm looking at them as a toolbox. I'm seeing it's like I can do so much with this unit. I get, yeah, I understand like the mandatory teleport is not good, but you can plan around that in ways which is neat. Oh, let me ask you a question, Martin. Yeah. Would you rather have them or new authority? I would use both. Ha, got him. Got him. Like I did write a list with both of them in it. It would be both of them at Blinore and a Stonemage and the Stonemage general. The Stonemage would be the general. No, I, again, I'm not saying this is, I would like to test it out. I have not played enough games with, and I'm only looking at it now because I think 260 is about the ceiling of what I would pay for in this unit. Sure. And like where it was at 285, I would like, I'm already like, no, this is beyond indulgent. Like as a toolbox, I would like it around 220. Two, six. No, I get where you're coming from. Like that's why it's called a function. And that's your fear is that it just kind of gets lost in the mix. This wouldn't be terrible if you had them with a bodyguard. So I think the Blade Lords actually supplement and compliment him very well because they do have the scenario key word. But I don't know, I just struggle like. The main problem is that no matter what, if you fight with them at all, you generally have to teleport. It's not like if it doesn't just check if you've suffered any wounds because the character, because I like this implementation of the narrative mechanic. And I talked about it the last time we were visiting this war scroll. Am I actually going to bring them to a tournament? I'm not sure yet, but I would like to really give it a thought. It's basically where I am with this. My concern is that basically what this means is that anything that you charge, if you're going to have to teleport afterwards. Right, and I can work that into my plan as well. And you can't hold objectives with them. Because if you're on an objective, you can move to another objective. Yeah, if you're on an objective and you get charged, you have to functionally flee with the teleports. Yes, yeah, yeah. All right. You use it aggressively, not defensively. Yeah, I want to keep moving just because we got more stoles and we can go in a while. My answer is people won't take them still. Like you've got to come down more points. Okay, the Wind Mage. So the Wind Mage is very much like what he used to do. He's plus one to save against missile weapons. Then he can blow away the arrows and go shoot and do mortal wounds to people near him. Very funny little thing. He now has all the hurricane units. He has moved like the wind on a scroll where your piling move doesn't have to finish. I love this double negative. I'm going to read this out loud just because it's the funniest thing to me. When you make a piling move with this unit, it does not have to finish the move no further from the nearest enemy unit that it was at the start of the move. Wonderful double negative. Love it. There was a copy editing thing in there error or something like that. Yeah, just it can, got it. It can pile away from people. Check, okay. And in addition, when it charges, it gets an extra three inch for pilot. So it can walk away six inches if it wants. As we mentioned earlier, it has a little wind leap thing which you could choose to modify with what we talked about earlier on. So normally if you start with wind charges within six inches, they suddenly gain a speed of 16 inches and fly. Whereas normally they're 14 inches and ground pounders. Okay, so fine. 120 points. He's fine. His spell is fine. It's nothing impressive. It's fine. The wind chargers who are 150 points battle line in Helan, go Helan, team Helan. The wind charger bows make two attacks each, three's, threes, neg one, one damage. And importantly, wind rider arrows or wind charger arrows, sorry. Ward rules cannot be made for wounds and mortal wounds caused by attacks made with missile weapons by this unit. And when they move, they can fly. They can move across terrain features as though they can fly. Not enemies, but terrain. Okay, our little wind temple. Tom, where are you sitting on the wind temple? I've always loved wind chargers. Like in my original Illumineth list, I was running wind chargers even when I wasn't Helan. I still love them. I love them more now with the thought that I can ignore ward saves and be three attacks of model. I'm sad that I lost a neg two rend bow attacks because these dudes liked to throw down before.  Yes, that is good. But I still like these guys.  You're gonna do 15 attacks and shooting and then another 15 attacks in melee. And they can like charge one unit and then pile into another. I just, I think the tech on these dudes is hot. Yeah. I think they're still a contender. They're still very interesting. The ward punch is really interesting in the current world. Yeah, I always think about it just like looking at them on paper. It's like, this is like toothpick damage, but like when you map it out, it is a not insignificant amount. See, I did it, the double negative there for you. It is not an insignificant amount. You have to really know how to play these. I've never really, like I used them once or twice, like in TTS, just like I really wanted to see what the Helan army was about. When you have the ability, you can pile in in any direction, not just towards the closest model. You really have to know what you're doing with them. And I think if you're not extra careful, you will lose your army. And so like that's why I generally have stayed away from them. I prefer, like even when I look at the Windmage, it's like I could just get tackless to cast these spells. That's just from my playing of the army, necessarily saying the Windmage is bad. That's just what I'm just doing. For me, I loved running as a little power trio, like a Windmage, a set of wind chargers and separate. To me, that was like a nice little, highly mobile, super high threat thing that the army just had, the enemy had to respond to. And that's often like not what Luminath doesn't have. Oftentimes Luminath doesn't have like it castles. It doesn't create this highly threatening, charging trio. Now it's a little bit different now because like both the foxes have lost and we're gonna get to that. They're heel near the Windmage, which was a huge boon when you were already controlling how much combat the foxes were actually getting. Being able to heal them automatically was really nice in addition to all the bonus movement. So I say all that to say, I like it. I like what it offers. And I think that I don't know that I would go Helan. Like let me say this, I would still include these guys if I wasn't Helan. If I was Helan, like I would be all in. I'd have three and five.  It's just so easy with these guys. Like it is not an issue. Okay, Matthew Rose. Hey, what's up buddy? Welcome, glad to have you here. Yeah, Barakai, they're still, they're still very much sentinels. Some of their worst things got clipped off like the lack of Lambert light and stuff like that. But I mean, if you love mortal wounds on a five, you'll still love sentinels at 30 inches.  So that did not go away. So I guess it's up to you. And they're cheaper now. So let's call it a little from Colombe, a little from Colombe. All right, Severoth. He's Severoth. You mentioned the important thing already, which is that he doesn't heal near the windmage. The other really important thing to mention about Severoth is spirit of the wind. Well, this is the key critical issue right here. Okay. Which is spirit of the wind at the end of your shooting phase, this unit can make a normal move or a retreat of 12 inches. It cannot run. In addition, this unit can retreat and still charge later in the turn. But this is the end of your shooting phase. It should be noted that in the previous book, it was simply not stated and this rule was given power by the FAQ rather than what was printed in the base text. Sure. So I think that- I wasn't reading just part about Severoth though. Like let me- Oh, I think it was. No, like it was part of it because it was hard to catch the more- No, no, impossible to catch. Yeah, impossible. Unless you're playing very specific armies. The more high-ciriating thing was that he could pull you into combat and you couldn't engage him because your pylon was reduced by two inches. Sure. And now that rule is also gone. Yes. I was playing against when I went to, I visited Warhammer World for Memorial Day weekend. I was playing against Mitzi, friend of the show. And I had just a regular Fox and his entire iron jaws army could do absolutely nothing to my Fox because it would get to move 12 inches at every shooting phase. Like why is this thing? All it took to beat that Tom was having a weapon with a two inch reach. Of course. Of course. Okay. And lots of things have that. The entire Fox army, Fox force five, okay? Piloted by people like Joe Crier, right?  And in most matchups, unless they ran into another heavy shooting army, they won at setup because of that. Yeah. Okay. It was some of the most toxic BS that has ever been printed on a Warhammer scroll. Yeah. And it wasn't even printed on a Warhammer scroll. It was an FAQ thing. Sure. I mean, it was the, it was the fair rules as written interpretation of what was written. So that's fine. At any rate, it's gone now. I'm fine with Severeth. He's still very mobile, still shooty boy who does high rent, shooty damage, but doesn't end up doing a ton of damage because of the nature of his weapon profile. He's three, 20, the regular Huracan who still has the 24 inch move in the eight wounds and the five up ward and 10 wounds versus eight wounds and blah, blah, blah, blah, all of that stuff. You know, their rules got trimmed, simplified. They both only move the end of phase. This guy's down to 250. Like, I'm good with it. I'm good with these guys now. Honestly, I'm like, yeah, okay, cool. Yep, got it. Like, yep, they're extremely mobile, skirmishing, shooting units. Neat. Like, fine. Yeah. They're fine.  Great. Yeah. Like, they now have to go play Warhammer.  Yeah, I mean, in most cases, these guys are now just shooters. They're no longer skirmishers. Like, their goals. They're always true because they operate, like they get the thing, like how battle suits in 40K to use an analogy where you get to move them from a place of safety to have clear line of sight to shoot. And then you get to move them back at the end of the shooting phase to that place of safety. Right, but that's not true. That like, I know that. I'm just saying, that's what I'm talking about. I mean, that would be the definition of a skirmisher, the way that they fight. Like, that is literally what that thing is. Like, people who ran out, shot, and then were able to go quickly disperse into cover and acted it on sort of traditional rank and flank way. I mean, they're all right. It's again, not really my play style. I played it once so I could understand what the army did, like at that combo. And I'm like, not for me. I'm glad they reeled it in somewhat. But yeah, that's all I really have to say on the two boxes. Like they were, they were not like, you wanted to keep running tally of what units I played in which games they were not up there in terms of how often I use them. I'm just watching the chat, by the way. And I love how these are some of the, I will say these boxes are some of the most Marmite models they've ever created. Like people either absolutely love these models or hate them. That's what I'm seeing in the chat. I love my conversion. Sure. Yeah, you're, it's fine. It's, it's called as Flair, Tom. I have one that's zenithal. I'm not sure if I'll paint it anytime soon. Sure. It's called Fox, which is what matters to me. It's an L. Yeah, I mean, my buddy has a, you know, two of these things, once Everith and one normal. And he uses them fairly often. Like they're fine. He likes them. I'm sure they'll still show up in some hurricane armies and stuff. I mean, it should be stated, you know, these guys that specifically, you know, both of them if put in Helon, okay, since they both can do that, can still very easily now get the plus one shot, just like all the rest of the super range shooters. Like it's not the biggest deal in the world, but it is something, right? If you, so if you do move a couple of them up, it's suddenly 10 attacks on like, like two of them move up to within six inches and make 10 attacks at twos threes, five at neg three rend, five at neg two rend, D three damage each. That's not an insignificant shooting profile that just hits something.   And they're different armies. Like it is certainly less risk because then at the end of that shooting phase, they're going to go back 12 inches still. Right. So they're at 16 inches from the enemy. 18, 18, like against any back over a chaff line or any other thing you could have in the way, like on the other side of wardens or something else. Yes. Or big terrain or, or, or, or, or like 18 inches away is known as the distance you start away from your opponent in most games. I don't know. That's, that's, that's a lot less risk than a lot of their armies pay for close up for, for, for shooting that gets that close and can pick targets that easily. I don't know. Like I'd rather have them in another zip code and doing, you know, like 30 inch show, like cabin 30 inches away. Like you'd rather have ballistas, which Sam. Well, I mean, the problem is, is that these guys just fold. Like they can't take hit. So if they get caught, they're dead period. Yeah. I mean, they're five up, five up, right? Like, yeah, they're not going to survive through anything too tough. No. And eight wounds. Like they're just there. They are paper. Yeah. Yeah. I don't just, let me say it this way. They have a worse profile than five win chargers. I understand. I don't agree with that. I understand the regular guy. Yeah. I just, I'm not, I'm not thinking about them in melee. If they are in melee mistake or it's round five and it's better than zero attacks, it's something that needs to die. Yeah. It's interesting because like you have to, the question becomes like that, their comparison against the, the Ballista is an interesting thing. And like, I don't know, is it just worth it to take to Ballista? Like, yeah, maybe, right? Like that's, or just more sentinels or something like that was, was the only value of these guys in the ridiculous tricks, right? Yeah. I mean, I think like, to me that like their utility was in their ability to pin things and not get hit back or like the high mobility where they could, they could pick their fights with, they could do some shooting, they could pick their fights and then they could like pull people into combat, keep them out of actual combat because of the pylon rule. And you're, you're mentioning like stacking NPE things though, I think, right? But I'm saying that's what earned them 320 points. I don't know that in their current incarnation, they're worth their, their points. Okay. That's fair enough. All right. Yeah. I guess we'll see. And yes, thank you. Gareth is exactly correct. Let me say that they're not doing lots of shooting damage. The profile looks nice. No, it's always average damage. Yes. That's what I said at the beginning. Now I will point out, just as Gareth said, it's 18 inches. They can be 18 inches from any enemy unit. Remember, they don't have to get within six of what they want to shoot. They could pop near six inches to the corner of some chaff unit. Then they're going 18 inches into the unit they want to kill and then going 18 inches back away from the rest of the army. It is a pretty easy thing to turn on, the plus one to attack. Yeah. For like a 1.1 damage or whatever. Yeah. Sure. I mean, hey, it's another shot. I'm sorry. Is plus one attack bad, Tom? Is that the argument you just made? Yeah. Okay. You're wrong. It's that easy. Like obviously you know you're wrong. That's the stupidest thing you've ever said on the show. Plus one attack is one of the greatest buffs in the history of Warhammer. You know it. The American people know it. Let's move on. Next. When you have multiple models, when you have a standard... Next. We're almost there. Yes. I agree. Of course, there's a scaling bonus, but yes, it's still good. Endless spells. You might ask yourself, where's the Underworlds Warband? I don't know. They disappeared. They teleported away in transport. I'm not sure where they went. I don't ever take, I don't even bother with those scrolls. So if they're good... Make your own decision. Sorry, I missed them. But realistically, they're never good. So I'm okay. It makes me laugh that they're gone now. Or well, they're not gone. Like I don't... I just didn't bother to put them in. You didn't put them in. I skipped them. I assembled the OAS and used them for other models. Yeah. Like nine out of 10 times. I just, if you don't talk about them, it's completely irrelevant. They never show up in lists ever. So like I have a 90% success rate. If I ignore them, it's cool. That's a great success rate. I'll take it. Okay. So the Twin Stones and the Sanctum of M-M-M-E-N-N-N-Tuck. M-N-Tuck. Sure, let's go with that. Martin, will anyone ever take the Sanctum? Someone, I've seen in the chat actually, someone who wants to ensure that their stone mage is protected. But I guess that's like okay. Cause usually you want the stone mage in the same zip code as Avalonor. And Avalonor has to move because he's only movement six inches. So I guess like the, I can only think that it's useful in a stone mage. I can't think of any other character in this army that would want to use Sanctum. I physically have to find Rune of Petrification. I recently moved. I'm still unpacking some of my other hobby junk. And the Rune of Petrification came off the sprue when they rewrote the scroll in one of the balance updates. And it's still good. And I still need to find it because it is very cheap. It is very good. And I don't want to just proxy it cause that doesn't seem like it's very sporting, especially when I have the model. Okay. Tom, has anybody ever taken the Sanctum? Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. And yet it's 50 points. Okay. Cool. Cool stuff. Good, good, good one on that. Twin stones. Twin stones is still twin stones. It's the fixed twin stones. It's 50 points. It adds bonuses to cast and builds more bonuses. What? I shouldn't say that. It has the potential to add a bonus to a cast and builds that bonus as more spells are cast. Cool. It's fine. I could see some twin stones showing up in some armies. Yeah, they fixed it. It used to be like, it went from too good to unplayable. Now I think we're in the happy medium. Yep. But all of this doesn't matter because boom, we got to talk about the real winner, the thunder from down under over here, the rune of petrification. We had a chance to fix this thing. Okay. And then like, nah, let's turn it up. They're like, nah, let's turn it. Let's knock this bad boy down like 30 points and just make it good. This spell is, it's ridiculous. It's like, what is going on here? Why can we not price endless spells the best? People who are pricing endless spells. Let me, I'm gonna let you in on a secret to understand.  Look in your book. Find the cheapest endless spell. That's the best one in the book. It is better usually. Like again, there's one of those like nine out of 10 times. It's true. It is going to be better than the more expensive ones. Like functionally, not just because of its cost. Functionally, it is better. They always invert these things. Okay. Summoning. This endless spell is summoned, blah, blah, blah. Has a casting vibe of eight. Who cares in this army? Easy to power out. And a range of 18 inches. You might know that as I said earlier as the DMZ in between two armies when you start the game. So good stuff so far. Just a better range than all the base endless spells. Why not? I mean, it's no Terminexus, but it's pretty good. Pretty good. At the start of the movement phase. 35 points for that eight inches of movement. Yeah. At the start of the movement phase and at the end of the movement phase, for no reason, roll a dice for each unit within six inches of this endless spell on a four plus that unit suffers D3 mortal wounds. So you cast it out. It's a big pulse. Then it's the end of the movement phase. It's a big pulse. By the way, it's the movement phase. Not anyone in particular's movement phase. Do you know what the most egregious part about this is? There's a lot. There's a lot that might qualify. Because Texas can like teleport a unit that himself or another one that then can be nine inches out and then place this in the middle of the enemy army. Sure. And just hit like two, take two swings and everything. And then third, when it goes to their turn and if they can't get away from it because of overwhelming heat and the movement penalty, this thing has caused. Yeah. Okay. Then let's just keep this train rolling. Yeah.  So ping everybody for a D3 probably around here. Yeah. And then your movement phase, beginning your movement phase end, they go, if they don't get rid of it, their movement phase then. So they've taken on average four D3 mortals. Well, no, this is triggering on a four plus. So there are two D3 to three D3 mortals. Yeah. That's right. There's about five more, like if combined with a tech nato you're talking about basically a zone of five mortal wounds on average with obviously the ability to spike much higher. It's just insanity.  Yeah. If he tells himself. Sure. And by the way, it doesn't affect Luminous units either in any way. Right. Right. Of course. Why would it? Who knows? Why would it? Yeah. So it's hilarious to me that this thing double taps in the way it does. It's just like it's a really good endless spell. No, that's it. Sorry. Gareth, you're right. I'm wrong. I like who I'm wasting my time with Techless. I'll just lore seeker him out. Yeah. Or deep thinker it out. And then deep thinker it out and then just push it out deep. What was I thinking? Yeah. Obviously. I'll be. I'll be. I just, I can't. This spell. I like 40 points, cheapest one. Nailed it. It's great. I mean, it's a very powerful spell. Unbind it. If you see it coming your way, take a shot at it. It's a worth, it's a, it's a worthwhile one to roll at. So which one can I bite at, Vince? This or the five up word? Five up word. I'll take the wounds. I have played against, just another quick anecdote. I know this show has been going long. I play against every once in a while in Philadelphia. There's a very, very casual group of friends we just play like not tournament games, anything like that. He plays Bone Reapers and he starts the game where it's like, oh, you're, you're going to crush me. You're going to, it's Luminous. You're going to table me. I mean, it happens. We're just, but he, he predicts the game is going to go a certain way. He rolls the natural 11, just like for Catacross, for heroic willpower, unbinding Techless's ward safe.  And then he had the deathwriter units charge my spearman and he basically tabled me by top of three. It's like, that's what happens when you get very lucky and unbind my ward safe twice. And you just, It's always the thing, shut down the ward save. Okay. Chris said he's not sure he'd use the sanctum if it was free to be fair. I agree with Chris, but this thing's great. You know, my, my Luminous player in our group as it was using it at 70 points and loving it and getting value out of it at 40, it's a steal. Cause it's the same scroll. He's like, yes, I will take a discount. Right. Absolutely. So yeah. And then final thing to mention with the, the shrine is the shrine, by the way, it still does shrine stuff. It does what it does. Still good. It's still good. It's still a great piece of terrain. It's still a very huge, ridiculous piece of terrain that is, that is highly functional. Stand out amongst probably like the, probably like the fourth best faction terrain. No one asks the FAQ question because now the FAQ has been overruled. The thing where it turned a gap underneath changes, whether it's impassable or not, depending on if it's garrisoned. I can't feel like I asked that question. Like I hope I was the only person who asked that question because that would make it even more funny. But like no one asked that question because the terrain gets more complicated with that rule or rather FAQ ruling. So let's just keep it as it is right now. Final note to make their allies, daughters of Cain, IDK, Sylvaneth, and Stormcast Eternals. That is huge. They're welcoming in friends now. They've opened up the nations. Yes. Assistant ref says compare this to the silenesh terrain piece, hilarity ensues, I agree. I agree with that. All right, so good stuff. That's, that's Lumeneth everybody. We did it. We got there. Martin, thanks brother. That's good. Thank you very much for having me. Overall, I have to say I am much more positive about this book. Like they did cut a lot of the bad NPE. I think they're like we said at the top, I think there are different builds and different units that are interesting. Think you're gonna see a lot of stone guard stuff. I think you're gonna also see some helon stuff. I think in the current season some of your base binari things aren't, especially wardens are a little less attractive. But you know, time will change. Tom, I see you're rocking the Apple Cider sparkling ice. You two went to Costco and picked up the fall selection. I cottoned that just from the color of what you were drinking. And so Apple Cider, yay? It's okay. It's okay. But the cranberry frost in that pack is incredible. It's so good. Yeah, that's so good. All right. I would not be surprised just because of that. Like you could like, if we had the time, which we do not, the opportunities that the allies list offers combined with the internal balance offers like you might, it would not surprise me. I saw like a podium list, like not like top three, but like say like top 10% a luminous army that included either Derthu or Celestin Prime or a dedicated hammer unit that really completes the blue deck nature of luminous. Sure. Yeah. Cryptchetto said, would it now be easier for new players to pick up or still pretty complicated? No, I think it's definitely easier. It's certainly not as bad. It is still a more complex army. It is still quite an expensive army, though far from the most expensive, but it is still a higher cost army. I think it is definitely more new player friendly, but to me, it is now firmly in like the, if you're at your, if you really love high elves and you're willing to put in the dedication, yes, it's fine for your first army. Just know it's going to be complicated and it's a little finesse and a little fiddly. And like you, you know, you may have some losses for a while at the beginning as you're trying to cotton through how to use all these, these intricate pieces you've got to sort of dance with. But it's a great second army. Where is Tom? Tom is at Steve Herner's house. The, her Steve Herner is the T.O. of Holy Havoc and Holy Wars. So he is visiting Steve Herner's house. If you're watching carefully, Steve walked by just about mid-show. Sure. Yeah, a few people were asking who that was and I didn't want to say because that would give it away or whatever. Yes, he is at Herner's house. Steve has a fantastic hobby room and that is where Tom is currently broadcasting from. So, look at those paints. It's just beautiful. Yeah, yeah, he's got a great, like I said, his hobby room is impressive. Yep. It is quite a space. I'm at one, four desks in this room. Yeah, absolutely. Next week will be Sons of Bamut doing the review. A much different and simpler show. That's going to be for sure. Watch as we go through five war scrolls or whatever instead of 50. I mean, but it's going to be Tyler. So... You're going to talk about a lot of stats. Vince is going to make a, like I can predict right now there's going to be a PowerPoint with graphs of stats for each of the attacks. Well, like I said, don't forget, I'm traveling from tomorrow until like actually next Sunday. I'll be on the road for like 10 days straight in various ways. And so I don't know if I will have time to make all my fun charts. And the answer is no, he does not have more paints on his wall than me. He has a lot of paints, but it's not more than me. I like, I've, Tom could turn around and count if you want, but I know the number off the top of my head is I have 1,012 paints on my wall. So there you go. He does not. At any rate, thanks everybody for watching. Don't forget to hit like, subscribe if you haven't already. If you want to support the show, there is a Patreon down below that you can do so, focused on your hobby and getting review and feedback and taking your next step on your personal journey. Don't forget, you can also pick up merch. You can make your vote for Team Tom or Team Tyler. I'll tell you, I don't even know if this Tyler guy is anymore. Hasn't been here for a month. If the Team Tom merchandise hasn't pulled ahead, then Tom, I'm worried about you. I'm worried about you.  Yeah, we're just trying, I'm trying to do the push. You know, it's the marketing push. That's what this is right here. To really just try to lock down those shirts look, hey, Team Tom shirts look wonderful on both men and women. Sure, just cast a white net. And yes, Matthew Rose, last week, we literally dug deep into that. We have a chart in there about what armies are good to start with for a first time. So check it out. At any rate, thank you so much everybody. Martin, a absolute pleasure as always my friend. It is always, always great to have you on the show. For all of you out there, thank you so much.


This 2019 Chevy Silverado 2500 crew cab short box is stock number 12071Z. We are here at Summit Automotive in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin. Your new and used heavy duty truck headquarters. This 2019 Chevy Silverado has the 6.6 liter Duramax diesel engine with the L5P motor, which pumps out 445 horsepower. This truck has been fully safe and inspected by our service shop has a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and topped off. And this truck is 100% ready to go. Black clear coat is the color. We shoot all of our videos in 1080p, 60 frames per second. So if you have HD capabilities on your computer, tablet or smartphone or television, turn them on right now because it is definitely your best way to check out the quality and condition of the truck before seeing it in person. And if you like the video and want to check out more videos or subscribe to our YouTube channel on the lower right hand part of the screen is a subscribe button, click that and then click the bell notifications. You'll get updated every day that we do videos here at Summit Auto. Comes with the 20 inch polished aluminum rims and it has Goodyear Wrangler trail runner tires. These are LT 275 65R 20s. They have right around I'd say 50% of the tread left on them. Has the Z71 off-road suspension package on it so you get the Rancho shocks. Front fender is in excellent shape. You do get the projector lamp headlamps. Factory fog lights, front bumper parking sensors. The front bumper is painted and that is in really nice condition as well. Headlight lenses are nice and clear. And the hood is in excellent condition. That is a true cowl induction hood. It is functional. And I'll show you that when we go underneath the hood in just a little bit. Passenger side front fenders in excellent shape and the passenger side rim, no scuffs, no scrapes or corrosion on there. Coming around to the passenger side here, very nice and clean. Take note of how clean the body is, how reflective and mirror like that paint is. We take these HD videos so if you are far away or even if you're close by just cannot make the trip down but you're still interested in purchasing the truck, you can see the truck. Hear the truck and of confidence in the vehicle that you're looking at before you even get here. So when you do get here there's absolutely no surprises and you can make a smart and informed buying decision from the comfort of your own home. Very nice down that side. This back rim is in excellent shape as well. And the back tires have just as much tried as front tires. Frame and underbodies in pretty nice condition. Other than just a little bit of surface rust by the welds which is common on these GMs. It's very nice and clean underneath. Has all the remaining factory exhaust so it hasn't been altered in any way, shape or form.  Factory chrome step bars. Those are in nice condition too. And as we come around to the back of the vehicle rear bumpers in great shape. No dents or dings on that. Does have the rear bumper parking sensors and the rear steps. Full towing package which includes a receiver hitch four pin and seven pin wiring. The tailgate is in excellent shape as well. It is an LTZ. Get the blacked out bow tie there. Has the shock down assist so it's never gonna slam down on you. You get the spring and bed liner and that bed is in excellent condition. Looks really good. Tailgate shuts nicely. Coming around to the driver's side. Box looks pretty good. And for full disclosure this back room is in excellent condition as well. So I didn't see any scuffs or scrapes on any of the rims. They all look really good. Driver's side doors look really good. Didn't see any dents or dings on them. Does have the telescopic tow mirrors. They have built in directional signals, LED side lights. They do telescope out like so. And they also fold in. Judging by how easy that just folded in I would say they're probably power folds. Which they are. So I'll show you that. And see that they power fold in nicely. I always like showing both sides so that you know that both sides are working properly.  Both of these seats are power heated and cooled. No rips or tears on the seats. Factory all weather floor mats throughout. This one does have auto head lamps turned off four wheel drive and factory brake controller. Tilt, telescopic steering wheel. Power windows, power locks, power mirrors. And it does have memory driver's seat. As we hop inside the truck, we'll turn the ignition on so you can check out the miles. And then we'll check out the radio. See that this one has 23,542 miles. Instrument cluster is very nice and clean. It does have the Z71 instrument cluster back. You get the heated leather wrap steering wheel. Bluetooth and information center controls on the right. Cruise controls and heated steering wheel controls on the left. This one has the Allison six speed automatic transmission with the optional tap shift right there. Chevy my link system, AM FM and serious XM radio capabilities. It does have the factory navigation system on it. There's your AM, FM and serious. It also has projection manager where you can project your cell phone to the screen via Android auto or Apple CarPlay. And that's a really neat system too. Also, this is where your backup camera shows up. The truck has to be running for that to work. So we'll do that when we start it up.  That's your cargo lamps. That's for those LED side lights, downhill assist control and a factory exhaust break. Down here, you get two USBs, two 12 volt power points and then a 110 volt, 150 watt plug-in. Storage for your cell phone and whatnot. Passenger side format and seat are an excellent condition. I'll actually turn the light on so you can see a little bit better there. No rips or tears on that seat and the headliner is in really nice condition as well. I didn't see any rips or tears on there. You do get home link buttons for your garage door security systems and lighting systems, LED map lights and then on-star capabilities in the mirror. Lastly, you do get the wireless cell phone charge pad which is right there on the center console top. We'll take a quick look at the back seats and then we'll start it up and take a look under the hood. Back seats are just as clean as the front seats. No rips or tears back here. Does have the latch child safety system for any child car seats you may have. Power sliding rear window with the built-in rear defrost. Seats are in excellent shape. I don't think this truck's ever been smoked in. Smells very clean inside. Carpeting is an excellent condition and you do get those all-weather floor mats back here and it looks like it has a winter front right there. We'll start it up. Take a look under the hood. I'll also show you the backup camera. Starts right up. You'll note that there's no check engine lights or anything once it cycles through there. And there is your backup camera which works nicely. Bose Sound System 2. There are those LED side lights. They are ultra bright. And I would personally like to thank you for checking out the video today and hopefully from this HD video you will have been able to tell just how clean this truck is all the way around inside. Now under the hood we have the 6.6 liter Duramax diesel with the L5P motor. 445 horsepower engine bay is very clean. Runs very smooth. Once again this truck has been fully safe and inspected by our service shop as a fresh oil and filter change. All the fluids have been checked and topped off and this truck is 100% ready to go. It does have an engine block heater right there. There's your mission sticker. And then this is where your air comes in with that coal induction. Comes through the center of the hood. Comes over here down into your air duct there. And this truck is 100% ready to go. I would highly recommend this truck from a quality, condition, looks, options, overall standpoint, really a nice truck. And to see more pictures of this truck from one of our other 450 new news cars, trucks, SUVs, minivans, Wranglers, half tons, three quarter tons, one tons. You name it, we gotta go to that website right there at www.summitauto.com. Full pictures and descriptions of every single vehicle from two locations all at summitauto.com. And if you'd like to check out more HD videos you can go to youtube.com slash summitauto. Remember to like, subscribe, share, click those bell notifications, get updates on videos we do each and every day. 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The bulk of my field work has been done in Burundi because that's my dedication to contribute to the peace process in Burundi in any ways that I can. So one of the conclusions that have given me hope and to push forward with the work is that people are tired of violence. When I had no idea and I only learned that through my field work in Burundi, the people have learned through suffering and loss that there is a major gap between the political elite and the masses as far as their ambitions and desires and goals for life. The people and I'm saying the people are to distinguish you know the Burundian people from the political elite who are ingrained in everlasting power struggles. The people have learned that the elites political ambitions are not worth their suffering. And my greatest encouragement is that a statement leading to that conclusion came from a Tutsi person who looked at me as I was asking questions about his experiences with interethnic conflict and then he paused and then he said you know many of us are looking at all these politicians and then wondering and pointing a finger. Are your political ambitions worth my suffering? And I knew Burundi has had shifted in terms of consciousness of where the country should be going and any successful politicians in my mind will have to listen to that to those voices and follow that shift in order to constructively redress the country.


Hello friends. I am Sanjay Gupta. In this video, I am going to demonstrate you how you can calculate some of heights of 10% using area of structure in C programming. Before starting, you can note how you can search my YouTube channel. You can type my name Sanjay Gupta in YouTube search. My channel will be available there. You can watch various programming related videos there. Now I am going to implement solution of this problem. So first I am including a header file. Then I am declaring a structure whose name is height. It will be having two members feet and inch. Then I have terminated structure declaration. Now I am going to define main function. Inside main, I have to declare an area of structure this way. So this notation will be known as area of structure. Name of area is h and it will be storing 10 feet and 10 inches separately. To store addition of these 10 heights, I am declaring one more structure variable that is s and for loop processing, I am declaring int i. Now to initialize s.feet and s.inch with 0, I am writing this statement s.feet equals to s.inch equals to 0. Now to read 10 heights from user, I am implementing this loop. So this loop will print the message enter percent d height and i plus 1. So this way the message enter first height will be displayed because i plus 1 will print 1. Then enter second height, third height. So this way 10 messages will be displayed. After printing messages each time through scanf, I can read the entered height from user. So for that purpose h.i sorry h of i.feet and then m percent h of i.inch. So this way feet and inch will be stored in h area of structure. So this loop will be reading all heights from user. Now I have to perform addition operation. So again I am going to implement a for loop. Now inside this for loop, I have to write f.feet equals to s.feet plus h of i.feet. So this way all feet which are stored in h area will be added into s structure variable. Then s.inch equals to s.inch plus h of i.inch. So after processing of this loop, all feet and inches of h area will be stored inside s.feet and s.inch. Now I have to apply a loop which will check s.inch whether it is greater than equals to 0 or not. So if inches are greater than equals to 0 sorry whether inches are greater than equals to 12 or not. So if inches are greater than equals to 12 then I can convert those inches into feet. So for that purpose I am applying s.feet plus plus and s.inch equals to s.inch minus 12. So till inches are greater than equals to 12 then feet will be incremented by 1 and inches will be decremented by 12 or subtracted by 12. So after completion of this Y loop I can print final outcome on output screen. So feet equals to percent d then s.feet and print f.inch equals to percent d and s.inch. So this way I have implemented the complete solution in front of you where heights of 10% are added using area of structure. Now I am going to execute this code. So you can see it is asking for height. So I am entering 4 feet, 2 inch, 5 feet, 2 inch, 5 feet, 2 inch then 4th height, 5, 2 again 5, 2 again 5, 2. So this way I have entered total 10 heights. So you can see I have entered 2 all times for inches. So inches will be total 20. Now you have to see feet sum is 50 and inches 8. So addition of inches will be 20 but 20 is greater than 12. So 12 are subtracted from inches. So remaining inches are 8 and 1 is added into feet.  So this way the program is working properly. I hope you have understood the concept behind this example. So this way I have calculated some of heights of 10% using area of structure in C programming. If you want to watch more programming related videos you can search my name Sanjay Gupta. My channel will be available on first phase. You can watch various programming related videos there. Thank you for watching this video.


welcome. It's a new day and a new week here at the non-profit show and Julia and I are thrilled to have with us today Ellen Owens-Carcy joining us from the Carcy group. You might want to take a deep breath because you really want to wait before you automate which is fascinating because I always think let's just do it let's let's get on this automation train let's make that happen but instead we're going to take a deep breath we're going to get centered and really figure it what makes the most sense in regards to our automation so Ellen's been on before and we'll share a little bit more about herself in just a moment but before we pass the mic we want to remind all of our viewers and listeners around the globe who we are so Julia Patrick hello to you Julia serves as the CEO of the American non-profit academy I'm Jarrett Ransom non-profit nerd and CEO of the Raven group we are so honored to have the collective support from these amazing presenting sponsors shout out of gratitude to our friends over at Bloomerang American non-profit academy non-profit thought leader fundraising academy at national university 180 management group your part-time controller staffing boutique jmt consulting non-profit nerd and non-profit tech talk these are the companies that help us to stay moving forward to our 1000th episode coming up soon actually next month we are getting closer and closer as the the day goes on but thrilled to have the support from our partners that have helped us to produce these episodes which you can find them here so go ahead and pull out that phone that you're probably also on you can scan that qr code you can still find us on the streaming broadcast as well as the podcast channels so wherever you like to binge watch binge listen you can queue us up there all right Ellen thrilled to start a monye with you because you've heard me before but friday gets all the fun so monye let's make this day fun as well but Ellen Owens car say has joined us she's owner and transformational advisor at car say group welcome back that's great to be back great to be back and yes happy monday you know ellen i i held up in the green room chatter the current issue of the chronicle of philanthropy it's all about ai and navigating through the technology um challenges and opportunities that we have and so we really thought this was a great time to get you on to kind of give us some perspective because i think as jared mentioned you know we get all like excited and and actually pressured to move forward sometimes without really even taking that deep breath and so let's start off and and have you really give us a framework here because you're saying we need to assess what our automation potential is and i can't even imagine where we start with this yeah yeah it's like you know take your deep breath inhale exhale because so much is coming at us right now with ai robotic process automation this tool that tool we got to do it today and and the reality is that things are moving so quickly that it's important for everybody just take a pause for a second and say what are we really trying to do here what are our objectives what are our goals with quote unquote automation um and embedding this into our day to day so it's really important to first say if we're going to do this what is our potential to be successful what are we trying to achieve what are our goals and objectives by automating a process and then also am i automating something that is a bad process which we're going to talk about do i really know if this is going to have the the impact that i'm going to want it to have do we have big changes on the horizon that we need to consider before we dive into this do we anticipate any structural organizational changes and then capacity do we have the capacity to take on this level of a project and you may not know that until you get into it a little bit more but understanding if your group has the capacity to take on such a big project because they can be big um is important to understand question um perhaps a curveball and i know you're you're up for all these sports analogies i'm curious does the software platform tend to be the one that nudges us for automation i get a lot of emails that'll say we now automate with x y and z platform or are you finding it's the human us that says there's got to be a simpler way where are you finding that like thought to to even initiate automation i love that question jarrett it's a cool that's a cool question yeah that's a good question yeah unfortunately i do think it's the shiny object uh that attracts us and uh most often it's hey i saw that this other group or i know this other group or other organization that is using this tool or that tool and my answer said typically is are your processes exactly the same as theirs are you trying to achieve exact same thing because it may or may not be a perfect fit it may not uh help you get to where you want to be so i think it's first you know the the idea of the potential in ideating giving your teams the opportunity to innovate and ideate about the what can be you know would be nice if we could drive that direction but unfortunately it's usually the influence yeah uh before we go on what amount of time should we dedicate to this process like how long should we all you know sit down and really look at this is this something that we can you know do in a week or two weeks or is this going to be something that we really are going to have to to give more time a lot more time for really should give way more time uh you know a lot of implementations usually they'll say anywhere from six to eight months i can tell you from experience that it's usually longer than that it depends on a lot of different factors in terms of how big you're trying to go with some sort of automation or again capacity needs and timeline so we're going to talk timeline i know in a little bit but um yeah these are not just quick things that you can implement and and hope to be successful there's probably little tools here and there that are shorter time to go live but um overall these there should be part of a bigger strategy and saying what are we trying to do right but i'm thinking what my question and i didn't probably frame it correctly is the assessment part like how long should because i know implementation can take a long time but just the assessment i mean because a lot of times we when we make assessments um it's a stumbling block right and i'm just curious like how how we should look at that time frame uh i'm going to go back to capacity because i think it's a very useful tool to say what automation aside any kind of software side let's just look at our organization today and and some people might call it maturity like how mature is our organization do we have governance structures in place do we have a good financial model do we have a good staffing model do we have systems processes policies and procedures are facilities up today let's get those basics and make sure where we're at and understand where we're at today from a capacity and then say what are the opportunities what are those opportunities and build up from there so the assessment process i would say you know you're you're going to get more out of it the more time you invest into that assessment process and who should be part of that conversation that's a great question some i i've had this experience where it's like oh we're going to have these select people be a part of the process and i think it's a myth because the broader that you go initially in the assessment phase and then you can narrow it down because you want to tie up everybody's time and meetings and conversations but getting a perspective abroad range not only internally but perhaps externally and voice of the customer we were talking about that in the green room but getting the voice of the customer your clients your donors maybe getting some perspectives from them will be super helpful in terms of understanding what you what gaps need to be addressed wow it seems like quite quite the overhaul we're looking to do let's spin to the definition like how do we define as well as document these efficient and i feel like that's the keyword efficient processes because clearly we don't want to make more garbly loop out of out of a process exactly you can automate bad process yeah so yeah automation tool and it's a bad process you're going to get bad automation so uh yeah this is my favorite part because my approach is to work with organizations by literally getting a big room and going old school with sticky notes and flip charts and markers and having people move around and actually walk through the process and i and the the idea is that number one i think it's extremely beneficial to have someone facilitate these conversations who is not aware of the process when i go in and work with an organization i am not afraid to ask questions if it's not clear to me i will ask it this is not clear to me you need to be clear and very specific in your process the other thing i find is when you have teams or cross functional teams working through a process and we're sticking sticky notes and say okay where does it start what's the next step sometimes what you'll find is that three people have differing opinions of what really is the next step and and that's not a bad thing it's a good thing to uncover because that may help you discover where some of those pain points or bottlenecks are occurring and so as you map out the process with all of these sticky notes to take a step back and go wow there's a lot of steps in our process where do we have overlaps redundancy where do we have parallel work lines happening and starting to have conversations and that happened recently with a client where as i had a cross functional team i realized that the three groups within that team were doing the exact same thing exactly and i was like their potential is to collapse these into a centralized function so that you don't have three teams doing exactly the same thing now sure there's always challenges there's always things you have to adjust but to ask the question and to point it out can be very helpful from a different perspective what was their response to that we're we're dumbfounded i mean how how did they take that aha moment if you will yeah they they at first were like oh we never thought about it that way because they're so busy doing what they need to do and hearing what some of their pain points were and i was like well i can see why you have that pain point now because you're so tied up each of you you're not getting your economy of scale by centralizing this function in a central group and so their response was the immediate response to change as it often is is like oh wait but that means trickle down effect change and i was like but the trade-off if you do this it can be just monumental and give you back time yes it was it was kind of very eye-opening for them to see it on paper well i have to say i found found it eye-opening because i got to be a part of this process with you ellen uh working with a client a mutual client of ours to see literally old school pen to paper post-it notes index cards on the wall multiple departments involved um so many aha moments came from that as well as a lot of you know as one of our guests previously called it the scooby-doo where like your head just cocks and you're like what it's just so eye-opening which i think like one of the big ahas from that uh that i got to be a part of was really to understand where the data was coming from and because we pulled in multiple people we were able to bring in different data points so help us to understand in regards to automation why it's important to understand where the data is truly coming from uh so with any of these platforms automation ai it's all about the data i mean it relies on data to come into the system to be processed and to be put out into another form and so one thing that i have also found to be true is that um for a variety of different reasons organizations are tending to store data into multiple places number one this duplication of data sources and there's no single source of truth and it's important to get to a single source of truth where the data is the correct data and then these systems pull from those that that um source of data and so when we do process mapping oftentimes i'll ask about well where do these data points come from where what system currently feeds into this process or connects to this process and so that can also give an indication and start in that assessment process understanding what do we really what do we need in terms of a tool or a platform and what kind of data are we going to store there the other thing is junk in junk out right so if your data is bad uh you either the system will not automate it properly or you'll have gaps uh perhaps and one of the examples that i would give are something as simple as the format for date of birth some people in some countries and cultures put in dates of birth with month then day then year versus day then month then year um and so different formats uh different ways and so if you don't understand or it's not very specific or it's not clean the data's not clean putting that back into an automation process could break the process or at least not provide you the results you were looking for amazing yeah it just up ends things so um in such a tremendous way you know Jared mentioned something in the green room and and I think this is a really interesting segue to how do you know where you're going and what you're going to need you know a lot of times we say oh we want growth we want growth we want growth but we don't really know what that's going to do we just think of of the revenue and that's great and that's going to allow us to do more programming or get you know better salaries or expand their campus whatever but we don't always understand or look at what those costs of that growth are going to be internally how do we look at this yeah so cost is a real interesting piece because as you go through the assessment process you understand what you're trying to do you get clear goals and objectives the next stage is to understand what are what are our requirements what do we really need to have out of automation in the system what do we need it to be able to do what do we need it to be able to what other systems do we need it to be able to integrate with so that the accounting system is talking to this system or a membership or a donor system they're all connected right so you get to that point and you get ready to say these are our requirements our business requirements these are the user scenarios that we're trying to achieve and then you start vetting out potential platforms and that's where you get these wonderful presentations about we can do it and i'm i'm being really that is that's what they're supposed to do right but the reality is when it comes down to cost to understand what is the payment structure what is the cost structure is it subscription or is it based on data is it based on users so if it's based on how much data or how many records understand how many records do you anticipate if it's based on users how many users actually will be using the system is there additional storage costs for for the data that's being stored asking what is your year one cost and then your three year total cost of ownership not just how much does it cost for the licenses but what is the total cost of ownership what is the total implementation cost implementation costs are usually what gets people because it's it's the software may be very attainable from a licensing perspective but you oftentimes need someone a part third party integrator systems implementation partner to come in and do that work and that can cost anywhere from 25 000 upwards to a hundred thousand dollars to do and i don't think that is often the organizations i've worked with ellen budgeted in a non-profit so i feel like this needs to be a future goal right so like if we're looking at doing this we need like when are we adding that into our budget because i don't think this is something we can say we have this pain point we want to automate we want to take the proper channels and steps to do so but we don't have 30 grand right now right so like is this a conversation that needs to happen for the next year or two years even yeah putting that if you know and i'm working with a client right now who you know fortunately for them they had been through this before so they knew they kind of had line of sight so they had planned well in advance knowing we need to allocate this money in our budget knowing that we're going to need to replace this system moving forward in the future and so um yes plan ahead for those types that when you have line of sight of something that you want to do starting to put that into the budget and understanding those implementation costs are often one-time costs so how you structure that versus you know operational versus capital versus whatever however you structure that in your budget and then understanding what is the total cost of ownership of this platform moving forward it's not just licensing usually there's sometimes maintenance fees there's sometimes support costs that you may need uh you know finding out is training involved with my implementation do we need to have people train going forward um do my other systems require updates so there's so many fine points and i continue to learn every single time i pick up pieces every single time like oh man i should have asked that question so it because things change things are constantly changing so um that's a big one the total cost of ownership and then i wanted to say too the cost not financial but understanding to the the people impacted by automation understanding how that impacts them from a change management perspective when some people hear automation they're like oh they're automating me out of a job right and it's a workforce reduction and so under helping people understand and get their minds wrapped around what you're trying to achieve with automation to elevate other people's jobs to reduce inefficiencies whatever it is but make sure you're considering the people's side of this process it reminds me of our our friend shawna oldz with bootle and he said ai is coming for your job but for the pieces of your job that you shouldn't be doing anyway yeah so i thought of that jared exactly i was thinking of that because he was like you're going to be able to do things that are a lot more interesting as opposed to just the the uh mundane and kind of that that piece that's not that's not any fun well for me as a fundraiser and we know that we have lots of fundraisers that are part of this audience if i can spend more one-on-one time with donors and less in the data entry the follow-up like how much of that could be automated with some personalization the more face time we have i think that will show a greater ROI uh in the long run so there's a there's a lot to think about um ellen before we sign off i just have to ask what if automation goes awry right like what if there's a hiccup and we're like none of this is working and we just spend all this time what should we plan as a plan be yeah actually in the in the process of the plan of implementation you should always have what we call a rollback plan what happens if something doesn't work now as part of a deployment of any kind of process or automation you usually do some kind of testing to make sure whatever we just implemented is working and somebody does data validation to make sure the data transferred over correctly and looks correct because the last thing you want to have happened and you may have experienced this where an automated email goes out and there's a bunch of gobbledygook in the email because the automation didn't happen correctly or you got there it's coming to you but it's like that's not my name so that's the last thing you want to have happen are those more public facing things that happen before you check your work so to speak um so yeah it's you need to have a rollback plan in case it doesn't work correctly but the gate is that testing that happens such great insight it sounds like you've done this a few thousand times I love it I love it yeah it's been really fun having you here I've got to ask one more question and this came in kind of through my my sense of your process you know evaluating understand what works you know looking at where you can improve understanding the cost the human costs the financial costs you know time served how long is this gonna last I mean it used to be and I don't know if it still is that when you bought a new computer whether it was like a main frame or a simple laptop that kind of the the chatter was this is only going to really be efficient between 24 and 36 months is there something in terms of a time frame that's the same way when we're looking at this that's a good question um it kind of depends on what the platform is you're talking about uh in terms of that but I I think everything has that turnover cycle and the good thing is that a lot of the platforms have built in those types of upgrades so you they can bring you along okay so be sure you like who you're working with you know but because if you like that the best thing to do is to stick with it and not make those changes and let them upgrade and that's actually a really good question to ask in your interviews of potential platforms is to say do you plan what's on your roadmap what's on your advancement roadmap so they can bring you along and um you know who's to say it may have a cost impact to the end user but at the same time it's going to be less costly to have to flip over to a whole different system so I I think that's the good thing is we become cloud-based versus things that are on-premise it's easier to do those types of updates and to be agile and making those things happen on the back end right well thank you because it's it's uh one of those things is we're is we're looking at all of this in a new and different way um we gotta be asking these questions and and I think a lot of times we start some we start on a journey and then all of a sudden these questions start popping up and it can be a little intimidating Ellen Owens Carsey owner transformational advisor that's the best title ever transform transform transformational advisor I want to have one of those in my life Carsey group um Carsey group dot com check them out give you a lot of information about different things that are going on you have a really robust um level of knowledge and in input for for all different types of nonprofits that can be looking at this and so we really appreciate you coming on today and and sharing your knowledge um because this is where we're at I mean I held up the cover of you know the Chronicle of Philanthropy but really you know the issue of AI I mean if you just open your email every day don't you find Jared it's just like everybody's talking about it is yeah it is totally inundated I mean even to the fact where my 13 year old you know is working on his homework and he's like mom do you have chat GPT and I'm like duh of course I have chat GPT you know and he's like can I use it that was like for your homework no so I mean it's it is and it's where we need to be thinking about and and what we need to be looking at so um Ellen this has been a great conversation I really really appreciate it again everybody I'm Julia Patrick CEO of the American Nonprofit Academy been joined today by the nonprofit nerd herself Jared our ransom CEO of the Raven Group and again we have amazing partners who really help us with these conversations and they include Bloomerang American Nonprofit Academy Nonprofit Thought Leader Staffing Boutique Your Part-Time Controller 180 Management Group Fundraising Academy at National University JMT Consulting Nonprofit Nerd and Nonprofit Tech Talk um wow Jared okay this was a great way to start a Monday I feel a what I know a Monday I'm sorry a Monday a Monday yeah I think you feel like it's like you want to have this conversation yeah on a Monday well I feel like we need to have it more often because as you know we talk about this as technology advances and it's happening faster than I can any of us can even keep you know a hold of it's constantly changing and uh this is not my will house automation but I know that there are some amazing talented people like you Ellen so thank you for bringing this topic to the forefront and giving us permission to take a breath to breathe and to pause before we actually like implement automation I think that was a huge takeaway because we're so ready to run the races hit the finish line but really we need to think through this strategically absolutely thank you both yeah it was a lot of fun hey everybody as we end every episode of the non-profit show we leave you with this message and it goes like this to stay well so you can 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a campus has walked us through what the senses experience and hell, which is quite terrifying. It is Conor and very happy to have now escaped hell and to move to a much, much better place. Yeah, absolutely. So in heaven, he, well, first of all, there's a really cool passage here. He talks about the pearly gate. So he's just kind of starting as we walk into heaven. And before we experience the sensory situation of heaven, he talks about the great pearl. And so tell us about that. Indeed. And so this is actually something which, which comes from sacred scripture from the book of revelations in which there's a detailed description of the celestial Jerusalem. And I guess the pearly gates is an expression which has become almost a bit of a cliche. And we we say pearly gates without thinking about what we really mean. But if we go back and look at the book of revelation, it tells us that each of these gates is carved from a single massive pearl. And if you just reflect for a moment, you know, the biggest pearl I've seen is probably, I don't know, about an inch or so in diameter. This is something which is truly mind blowing. And on top of that, the cities of the streets of the city are paved with gold, with pure gold, and lined with gemstones. I mean, this is completely awesome when you stop and try to imagine it for a few moments. You know, I can't even fathom what it would be like to live in a place like that, but it would certainly be a magnificent experience. He he talks about going into the senses, he says, and that glorious gleaming metropolis shall be adorned and surrounded by verdant and gorgeous fields filled with multicolored flowers of incomparable and entrancing beauty. And in that city, the tranquil warmth and gentle, gentle light of spring shall prevail eternally, and the air will be surfaced with fragrant perfumes, offering ever new and intoxicating delights. And I had written in my notes, and no allergies, because I'm allergic to everything he just said. You know, kind of that's right. Well, allergies, weaknesses, disease, all of this are actually manifestations of the lasting effect of original sin. And of course, that will be completely taken away. So not only will there be no tears or no mourning, but there will be no colds, no coughs, no flu, I mean, will be completely immortal with this fullness of life, a life which is so full that it can't be impaired by anything at all, not even allergies. And, you know, and he says that he goes on to say about the vividness of the reality will surpass that of our present life. So our senses at the moment are all limited. We will have perfect senses so that the glories which we perceive, the beauties which we perceive in this world right now, we perceive only through our very imperfect senses. So we get only to see them as if through a glass and darkly. But there it will be like, compared to this reality, this reality will be like looking at something in black and white compared to high dimension, full color reality, which will be what's waiting us in the next world where our senses will be perfected. That's beautiful. In a subsequent podcast, we're going to talk about Saint Anselm and his book on the glories of heaven, where we're going to talk in detail about the glorified body and what that's like, you know, and that kind of this is just reminding me of that. So I look forward to that conversation.  So it's one thing to smell beautiful flowers and to see an awesome pearly gate. Yeah. But he definitely says all of that's just the prelude to the actual beatific vision. So what does a chemist say about that? Beatific vision is a very important thing in the Christian imagining the Christian conception of heaven, of paradise. It will be the perfect vision, the perfect comprehension and understanding of the glorious and holy trinity. And you know, we think about the trinity now and it's a very beautiful thing, this three-ness yet oneness. But what we think about now is only really the definition of it in words, not the reality itself, this dynamic interchange of love. And he says, this holy trinity, mysterious and beyond nor conception is the perfect archetype and ultimate epitome of all that is beautiful, all that is good, all that is delightful. In beholding this glorious trinity, you will know all there is to know, and you shall possess all your heart desires, rather even more than your heart desires and could ever desire even more than your mind could ever conceive. So we're going to be united with the beatitude, the blessedness, the joy of God himself, which is truly an awe-inspiring thought. You think about those times in this life when we felt most happy, most content, most joyful, and that will be just the smallest fragment of what this fullness of eternal joy will be like in the union with God. And he concludes this chapter, actually with a quote, I wasn't even intending it, but I forgot that he concludes this chapter with a quote from Saint Anselm, we're going to talk about it another time. And it says this, as Saint Anselm has said, whatever you wish for, you shall immediately have, and whatever you do not wish for will never befall you. And what I just kind of made a note to that, that reminds me of something that Saint Augustine said, and this is a significant paraphrasing I think, but it goes something like this, love God and then do what you want. And with the idea being, you know, particularly in heaven, since we're talking about the joys of heaven, you only want what is good, and so you get to do whatever you want. And a saint here on earth in an imperfect way gets to do what they want. I think that's why Augustine said love God then do what you want. He's not saying, oh, go just have a good time. He's not saying that, but when you love God, your desires are purified. And so your will is only desiring to do his will. So you, in a sense, you have total freedom then, because you get to do exactly what you want, because you only want the good. And he finishes this chapter with that quote from Saint Anselm, and I think it's just driving point to home to me that in heaven, there's total freedom. You get what you want. Exactly. Exactly.  But no, it's not like that at all, that we continue to have desires and wishes and so forth, but they're instantly fulfilled. And we can do this with perfect freedom, because everything which impairs our current will, which makes us sometimes will for the wrong thing, will be completely removed. So our will will be in perfect unity with that of God. And this gives us perfect freedom. It also gives us complete omnipotence, because just as the will of God is omnipotent, so our will, which will accord with his perfectly, and with the United Will of all the angels and saints will be joined also in this splendid omnipotence. And so it's not this static state, but rather a state of going from one glory to another. And I think one of the things which Gregory of Nyssa talks about in heaven is that it's not, we don't receive everything, but it's a continual and infinite progression from one state of bliss to an even greater one. Yeah, I'm going to mention this. I don't think this is a digression, but I read somewhere that human nature is capable of doing anything with the grace of God, except for two things. One, human nature can never create out of nothing. Only divine nature can do that. And two, human nature could never annihilate something out of existence. Only God can do that. But with God's grace, human nature is able to do anything else. We'd be able to move planets. We'd be able to give sight to the blind. We can do these amazing things, and so much of the redemption of mankind was done through the human nature of Christ, the divine person working through the human nature of Christ. Redemption was in a sense an act of man done by a divine person, but done through human nature. So I just find that interesting that heaven, I kind of feel that this conversation about heaven is showing that we're going to, talking about participating in God's omnipotence. His all knowing, his all power, we're going to have tremendous abilities to, Anselm talks about, which we'll get into later, being able to, to the velocity, being able to move faster than the speed of light, you know, just pop around the universe at unimaginable speeds. So our nature of humanity is capable of that with the grace of God and fusing it with his power and his knowledge. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, it makes, it makes a lot of sense, you know, and the human being is the, is the big which is going to be redeemed when we're in heaven will still be fully human. And the human being now is limited only by the impairments of sin, by the division of our, our souls from the will of God. So we substantially unite our wills with God during this life.  But we never do this perfectly. We see in the saints and in the person of Jesus Christ, people who unite their souls, their will with the will of God. And Christ says if our faith is strong enough, we'll be able to move mountains. Yeah, exactly. Like that's, you got, you know, this is making Superman and Batman look pathetic, right?  You did, you did.