J-D-L-L-O! The Jell-O program starring Jack Benny with Mary Livingston and Phil Harris in his orchestra. The orchestra opens a program with, I've taken a fancy to you from in old Chicago. With all its different holidays, February is certainly a party month and tomorrow is St. Valentine's Day, a swell excuse to give the family something special for dessert.  For Jell-O goes with the party spirit every time. First, because it's so festive looking with clear bright colors that dress up any meal. And second, because it's so luscious tasting with delicious extra-rich fruit flavor that puts everybody in a cheerful mood. But there's still another reason why Jell-O is tops for parties. It's quick-setting, easy to prepare, you can't go wrong. Just be sure to get genuine Jell-O when you buy. For there is only one Jell-O and only Jell-O brings you that extra-rich fruit flavor. Look for the big red letters on the box. They spell Jell-O. I've taken a fancy to you played by the orchestra. Now, ladies and gentlemen, we bring you America's latest fashion plate. That bold brummel of Beverly Hills, Jack Benny. Thank you. Jell-O again, this is Jack Benny talking. And say, Don, thanks for that nice build-up you just gave me. My goodness, let's come over you. Jack, I read in the paper just the other day that the tailors of America selected you as one of the 10 best-dressed men in the country. Oh, they did? Well, I didn't know that. Are you sure, Don? Oh, yes, certainly. It was quite a story. Sure, I read it, too. It was in all the papers. It was, too? Gee, I'd like to see it. Have you got a clipping of it? Yes, and so have you. Well, all right, fellas. I was just trying to be modest, that's all. But it's true, I was selected as one of the 10 best-dressed men in the country. I came in second. Oh, who was first? Clark Gable. You know, Don, politics. The only way I can figure it... Now, wait a minute, Jack, wait a minute. Gable looks marvelous in clothes. In the first place, he's much thinner than you are. Oh, no, he's not, Don. We're exactly the same weight. Only mine is distributed a little differently. But we have about the same physique. Go on, if Gable was standing in a barrel, he'd have a better figure than you have. Well, first place, he never stands in a barrel, I don't know. I know what's the matter with you, Phil.  I'm not jealous. I just can't understand it, that's all. Oh, I dress as well as you do. Probably Weller. Weller? Now, you can do gooder than that. You dress as well as I do. Look at that coat you've got on right now. What's the matter with it? What's the matter with it? Looks like a combination salad with patched pockets. Oh, hello, Mary. Hello, Jack, congratulations. Thanks, thanks, Mary. I wish you'd have been here a minute ago, though. Phil can't understand why the tailors of America picked me as one of the best dressed men. Well, I can. Certainly. Half of your relatives are pants presses. That's all.   Isn't that corny? Oh, it's a corny one, isn't it? Oh, I don't know. It's not half as loud as the one I saw you wearing yesterday. Well, that's different, Mary. That happens to be my polo coat. Polo coat? What do you do? Ride on a zebra? It'll make you any happier, yes. But you know what kills me from the attitude of this gang? You think I never knew anything about style. Let me tell you something, fellas. I'm coming out with a new suit in about three weeks that'll knock your eye out. And I don't want you to copy it, either, Phil. What kind of a suit is it? Well, it's a double-breasted English drape model with a new zipper vest. Oh, it's the last word in suits. Hey, that sounds pretty good, Jack. What color is it? Well, it's a sort of a fudge brown. Oh, it's beautiful. A fudge brown, yes. Is it plain or with nuts? Plain. I'm going to look swell in it, too. It fits so snug. It has a 32-inch waistline. What are you going to do with your stomach? Well, naturally, Phil, when I tighten my belt, my stomach will go up to where my chest is. Then what are you going to do with your chest? Well, I'm not going to have my girl's name tattooed on it like you have. You would if you didn't have hooray for Walkiegan there. Well, what if I have? Now, look, fellas, let's drop all this talk about clothes. Just because I get a little recognition once in a while, everybody here has to turn green with envy. Now, let's change the subject. Oh, hello, Kenny. Hello, Jack, congratulations. Thanks, thanks, Kenny, but I've heard enough about my clothes, so forget it. I'm talking about your birthday. My birthday? Oh, yes, tomorrow is my birthday. Preparations of 14th, I forgot all about it. Well, congratulations. Well, a happy birthday. Well, sure, thanks. Well, yes, sir, I was a little Valentine. Funny how it slipped my mind. Well, it didn't slip mine. I brought a cake for you, Jack. Wait till I get it. A cake? Well, that was thoughtful, Kenny. Here you are, Jack. Well, thanks. Say, that is a beautiful cake. It has such nice decorations. Yeah, I hope I guessed right. I put 50 candles on it. 50 candles? Oh, I got more in my pocket. Oh, you have? Well, keep them in your pocket. All right, but I better blow them out. 50 candles.  I'm not 45. I'm not even 40. Hurry up, Jack. You'll be late to school. Now, wait a minute, Mary. You haven't worn rompers for some time either, you know. On the level, Jack, is tomorrow really your birthday? Yes, Don, it is. Well, well, ladies and gentlemen, if you're planning to celebrate Jack's birthday tomorrow by having a little party, top it off with tempting delicious jello. It is economical and easy to make and has that extra-rich fruit flavor. Well, thanks, Don. That was a lovely gesture. And now, folks, Phil Harris will... Wait a minute. Come in. Telegram for Jack Benny. Right here, boy. Thanks. Oh, wait a minute. Here's a tip for you. Say, this must be your birthday. Who's the wire from, Mary? Just a second, Jack. Oh, Jack, it's from your father. My father? What did he say? He says that, dear son, congratulations on your 25th birthday. I couldn't afford a telegram then. Good old dad. He never forgets a face. Play, Phil. You're in education played by the orchestra. And now, ladies and gentlemen... Wait a minute, Jack. That number was played by Phil Harris in the orchestra. Why don't you mention the conductor? Well, they know it wasn't Toscanini. Anyway, Phil, you have a distinctive style of playing. You couldn't be confused with any other band. I couldn't, eh? No. You have the only orchestra in the world where the drums carry the melody. And now, folks...  Well, I would, Don, but I have to rehearse tonight with my leading lady for my new Paramount picture. I'm going over to Francesca Gall's house. Oh, are we? No, no, Phil. You're not going this time. And say, Mary, I wish you'd run through my lines with me, will you? Before I go over there, I'd like to brush up on my part. Okay, Jack. Now, here's the script. You read Francesca's part, and I'll read mine. Here you are. Your name is Julia, and I'm Andre. Andre? Yes, yes. All right, Mary, let's go. You don't mind if we go through this, do you, fellas? No, go right ahead, Andre. All right, Mary. Now, the door opens. See, and I walk in. You're sitting there, and I walk in. Ah, good evening, Julia. I'm sorry I kept you waiting. Oh, Andre, my love. I'm so glad to see you. See you. Now, stop kidding, Mary, and help me with this. Well, darling, I've come for the last time to ask you to marry me. You're toyed with my affections long enough. There's a limit to my patience, Julia. You know, our bargain, when I saved your father from ruin, well, the time has come. And whether you love me or not, I'm not going to let you go. I'm not going to let you go. I'm not going to let you go. The time has come. And whether you love me or not, you're stuck with me. Well, what are you laughing at? Paramount. They're stuck, too. Oh, Mary, I can't rehearse with you. You're not giving me anything. You're not putting any feeling into it. He's right, Miss Livingston. When Andre comes through the door, you should be a little more emotional. Oh, go away. Uh, come on, Mary, let's try it again. Look, Jack, look. What? It's Robert Taylor. Well, why, Bob, I didn't know you were standing there watching us. Where'd you drop in from? Well, I was sitting out front watching your show, and you seemed to be having a little trouble with that scene, so I thought I'd come up and offer a suggestion or two. Well, it's awfully nice of you, Bob. I'm always glad to see a kibbit, sir. But really, I don't need help. Well, it might be too late at that. You're sharp, there. Now, look, Jack, the reason Miss Livingston did not respond properly was because you were not convincing as a lover. Well... How do you like that for Crust? What do you think I was doing up here, knitting a doily? Now, look, Jack, all I'm trying to tell you is that your scene lacks sincerity. In other words, what you said was not believable. Oh, it was not believable. Well, next time I'll take an oath before I read my life. You better take a lifesaver, too. You've been eating onions. I have not. Well, Jack, I'm sorry I intruded, so I'll just run along. No, no, Bob, no. I'm glad you came up. Say, I'm always open for suggestions, even if I don't need them. You know, Bob, I've been an actor for a good many years. I appreciate that. And furthermore, if you read the papers, and I think you do, you may have come across an article this week stating that I am one of the ten best-dressed men in the country. Yes, I saw that, Jack. Say, do you mind if I tell you something? No, no. Go right ahead. Well, Jack, take that suit you're wearing right now. Listen, I gave a better one than that to my gardener, and he refused it. Well, if my gardener ever did a thing like that, I'd hit him right over the head with a petunia. Well, Bob, so much for the ribbing, anyway. To tell you the truth, I'm really glad you came up. Now that you're here, I want you to meet the members of my cast. It's about time. Bob, this is Mary Livingston. Hello, Mary. I'm delighted to meet you. Thanks, Mr. Taylor. I mean, Robert. I mean, Bob. Mary, you don't have to be so nervous. Well, she will. You know, Mary, I must say you've handed me a lot of laughs, and I think you're just as charming in person as you are on the radio. Well, thanks, and, well, I think you're just as charming as I am. Oh, don't, don't mind her, Bob. She's so excited, you know. And now I want you to meet... Wait a minute, Jack. Oh, Mr. Taylor. Yes, what is it, Mary? Well, if a certain person asks me to go out tonight, I won't think you're a bit fresh. Oh, all right. And Bob, I'd like to have you meet our young tenor, Kenny Baker. How are you, Kenny? I'm glad to know you. Gee, if I'd have known you were coming, I'd have baked another cake. Why, Kenny? You know, Mr. Taylor, I'm in pictures, too. Yes, I know you are, Kenny. I've seen you in a lot of them, and I think you're doing a swell job. Yes, sir, you better watch out for me. I'm dynamite. Oh, don't show off there. And Bob, this is our announcer, Don Wilson. Hello, Don. Glad to see you. Well, how are you, Bob?  You were? Well, now that's a coincidence, because I was thinking of you last night over a dish of jello. Well, that's the best we could do with that, folks. And Bob, this is our orchestra leader. Oh, I know Phil. Hiya, Philzy. Boy, it's good to see you again. Hiya, Bobby. Did we have fun the other night or not? Yes, sir. And by the way, Phil, thanks for getting me that date. It was mighty nice of you. What? Phil got you a date? Yeah, man. Well, of all things. Say, I hope it wasn't the girl he got for me, Dolores Del Schmutz. No, this was her sister. They call her Sugar. Oh, Sugar Del Schmutz. Well, Bob, now that you've met my cast and the Del Schmutzes, I want to tell you that I saw the preview of your new picture the other night, a yank at Oxford, and I thought it was one of the best things you've ever done. Thank you, Jack. I'm glad you liked it. By the way, Bob, what was the first big picture you ever made? You know, the one that you think started you off with a bang. Well, Jack, about three years ago, I made a picture called Broadway Melody of 1936 with Eleanor Powell, Una Merkel, Sid Silver, Buddy Epson, and June 9th. Oh, yes, I saw that. It was very good, too. Say, wait a minute. I was in that picture. Well, certainly. You were, Jack? Yes, I was. I played a... Mary, you saw Broadway Melody. What was I in it? Miss Cass. No, I mean the character. Oh, I remember, Bob. I was the Broadway columnist. You punched down the jaw three times. Oh, yes, I remember. Hey, that was fun, wasn't it? Yes. I'll say it was fun. Fred Allen saw the picture eight times. Well, that's what you call fun, huh? Oh, what if I did punch you on the jaw? I didn't hit you so hard. Not much. Listen, Bob, that was three years ago. And I've got a swivel tooth that's still whirling around. But at that, Bob, I hope we do make another picture together. Maybe I can kick you around next time, huh? Well, you never can tell. Well, Jack, I think I'll run along now. Now, wait a minute, Bob. Wait a minute. You offered to help me out in my little dramatic scene here, and I'm going to hold you to it. You don't mind, do you, Bob? No, not at all. I didn't ask you, Mary. Not at all. Do you mind, Bob? No, Jack, I'll be glad to. Okay, we'll do it right after Kenny sings a song. Go ahead, Kenny. Wait a minute. Come in. Mr. Benny? Yes? Is Robert Taylor really on your program tonight? Yes, he is, and you won't need me. Goodbye. Oh, that guy, he drives me crazy. Say, what does he want, anyway? A toupee, but I'm not going to buy him one. At noon, the night is falling. Whipper wheels are sweetly clawed to the old. Once again, your arm will kiss at every time. That was, uh, hey, Bob, you take the reins, will you?   All right. That was New Moon from Radio City Rebels sung by Kenny Baker. And Kenny, I want to tell you, it was swell. It was perfectly thrilling. Thanks, Mr. Taylor. You know, I wish Jack would say things like that once in a while. All right, Kenny, what are you talking about? I've said those very words to you every Sunday this year.  Oh, you don't know what you want. Say, Bob, how about helping me out with that little love scene now? Okay, Jack, you and Mary run over those lines again, and I'll kind of give it the once over. Fine, come on, Mary. Why don't you let me do it with Mr. Taylor and you watch? Mary Barbara's listening in. You know, Jesus. Look, anyway, I'm the one who needs rehearsing. That's why I don't want to do it with you. Well, it wouldn't hurt you to help me out. Now, come on, here's a script. We'll take it from the same entrance. Now, remember, Jack, put a little fire into it. Okay, Bob, I gotcha. All right, Mary, I'm coming through the door again. Ah, good evening, Julia. I'm sorry I kept you waiting. Oh, Andre, my love. Andre, where's Amos? Well, I've come for the last time, Julia, to ask you to marry me. You toyed with my affections long enough. Remember our bargain, Julia, when I saved your father from ruin? Well, the time has come. And whether you love me or not, you're stuck with me. Now what do you say? I'll go back to Walkiegan. Walk, there you are, Bob. What's the use of me trying to do anything? Well, will you let me try it with Mary, Jack? Maybe I can get better results. I know I will. Oh, sure, sure. Now I will.  Yes, Bob. Imagine that we're in a world of our own, drifting on a cloud. Yes, Bob. Yes, Bob, yes, Bob. Yes, Bob. Come on, you two, show me what you can do. Quiet, I'm drifting. Oh, you're drifting, eh? I am too. Kenny! All right, Mary, I'm coming through the door now. Ah, good evening, Julia. I'm sorry I kept you waiting. Oh, Andre, my love, kiss me. I don't remember that line being in there. I've come for the last time, Julia, to ask you to marry me. Kiss me, Andre. You've toyed with my affections long enough. Kiss me. Don't keep saying that. Kiss me, Andre. It's not in there. Well, the time has come and whether you love me or not, you're stuck with me. Then kiss me, Andre. Kiss me. My darling. I'm the one that's going to play it. It's a fine scene. All right, all right, Mary, you were finally kissed by Robert Taylor. Now what have you got to say? He can go back to Waukegan, too. By Mary? Mary, didn't you enjoy it? No, but let's do it again. Oh, I thought so. Well, Bob, no kidding. I think I did learn something from watching you play that scene with Mary. You gave me a couple of good pointers there. Well, I hope I didn't embarrass you or anything, Jack. Oh, no. Oh, and I'm very grateful. After all, you're an actor and I'm a comedian. I, uh, an alleged comedian, anyway. My only serious moment... My only serious moments are spent with my violin. I think I've got you stopped there. Oh, I don't know about that, Jack. You know, I'm somewhat of a musician myself. I play a 50-mean cello. A cello? Oh, I didn't know that. Isn't that a coincidence?  Uh, guess what they're going to do now, folks? Mary. Well, Bob, we can borrow a cello and a violin from the boys in the orchestra.  Fine.  Oh, that's a sizzler. Say, Phil, uh, let us have a violin and a cello, will you? Not without a deposit. Now, we're not going to leave the room. Okay, here you are, boys. All right. Oh, Don, Don, introduce this number, will you? Yes, sir.  Are you going to start? I'll start. Let's play it, Jack. Oh, by the way, Bob, you were in Europe this summer, weren't you? Yes, I was, Jack. Well, tell me, how did you find London? I asked a policeman. Oh, Bob. Yes, Jack? What goes around a button? A goat. You guessed it, the first 40 boys, 40. Robert Taylor and Jack Benny. Thanks, Don, and now, folks, there's another boy. Play, Phil, play, play. If you want some new and delicious dessert ideas, just take a look at a package of jello chocolate pudding. You can find some grand suggestions. For instance, you can add toasted nut meats to your chocolate pudding or half a cup of raisins or a crispy shredded coconut. And we've had lots of letters from women who tell us that jello chocolate pudding makes the most delicious filling for chocolate cream pie they ever tasted. But no matter how you serve it in a recipe variation or just as is, jello chocolate pudding is a dessert the whole family will love. It's creamy, rich, and smooth, like the old-fashioned homemade kind. For it's made with the same fine, wholesome ingredients. That's why it tastes homemade, so chocolatey and delicious. Jello chocolate pudding is quick and easy to prepare. You'll find the simple directions on every package. It sells for the same low price as jello, so ask your grocer tomorrow for jello chocolate pudding. Well, we're a little late, Bob, but I'll see you next Thursday night on the Your Maxwell House program. Thanks for coming over. Good night, folks. This is the program courtesy of Marvin and Roy. This is a nice little broadcasting company.


This is Think Tech Hawaii, Community Matters here. Okay, we're back. We're live. It's Tuesday. We're so happy to be with Rabbi Itchel Krasnijanski. Here on Community Matters, the title of our show is, My Heart is in Jerusalem. And indeed it is. Isn't it for all of us, somehow? Yes, indeed. Especially this time of the year when on the Jewish calendar we celebrate Chanukah. And Chanukah is the festival that commemorates an event that happened in Jerusalem. Yeah. How appropriate. Can you tell us the origins of Chanukah? Yeah. Yeah, Chanukah is the holiday that commemorates the victory of a small group, Jewish army. They were called the Maccabees and they stood up against the mighty Assyrian army in about 165 BC during the time of the Second Temple Period in Jerusalem when the Assyrians prohibited the Jews to practice Judaism freely, to express their beliefs freely and prohibited and forbade Jewish practice. And the small group of Jewish warriors led a battle against the Assyrians and they were victorious in the battle against all odds. Like we've seen in our lifetime in Israel, the Six-Day War. And when they chased the Assyrians out, they rededicated the Holy Temple in Jerusalem, which was defiled by the Greeks. And one of the services of the temple is to light the menorah. They had a candleabra that was lit every day. And it was an oil menorah. The lights burnt by oil and the Greeks defiled all the oil and they only had enough for it to burn for one night. And it would require eight days for them to replenish it with renewed oil, pure oil. And the miracle of Hanukkah is that the candle, the oil that was enough to last for one night miraculously burnt for eight nights until they were able to replenish it with oil. So this is what we celebrate in Hanukkah. It's a very joyous holiday. And so how appropriate it is that today we're talking about Jerusalem. Yes. Let's talk about Jerusalem, too, and the temple, where the Wailing Wall is located. There's a courtyard there right above the temple. What is it called? The Temple Mount, the Dome of the Rock, I think. So can you tell us about the history of Jerusalem? I know we only have half an hour for this. Okay, so briefly, the first Jewish king from the Davidic line was King David. And King David chose his capital, Jerusalem, and planned to build a temple for God. But because, as the Prophet told him, that his hands were soiled from so many battles, it would be his son Solomon, King Solomon, who replaced King David, that he would build a temple. So King Solomon built what we know as the first temple. And that in Jerusalem, in the capital of Judea, of Israel, and that lasted for about 500 years until the Babylonians came and expelled, destroyed the temple and exiled the Jews to Babylon. And then 70 years later, the Jews came back. At that time, Persia was the power, and King Cyrus gave the Jews the green light to go back and to start rebuilding the temple. And this was the second temple that they built, which stood for another 500 years about until the Romans came and destroyed the temple and exiled the Jews from Israel. It's getting to be a habit. And all throughout the over 2,000 years since that happened, Jerusalem always remained as the center of prayers for Jewish people. As a matter of fact, the Jewish custom and tradition is that we always pray towards East, towards Jerusalem, wherever one may be, whether in Hawaii, actually in Hawaii, technically we should be praying West, because we're closer to Israel West. But everywhere in the world, Jews pray towards Jerusalem, and part of our prayers is expressing our yearning to come back to Jerusalem. So Jerusalem has always been the center of all our prayers. And more so even throughout the long exile, when the majority of Jews were living outside of Israel, there always was a presence of Jews in Israel, and there was always the majority in Israel throughout the 2,000 years. What does the word Jerusalem mean in Hebrew? I remember Yerushalayim, it's all through the prayer books forever and ever. What does it mean? Yerushalayim means in Hebrew Yira means fear, fear of God. Shalom means like shalom, peace. In Hebrew shalom also means perfect. So it's the most perfect place to feel the awe and the presence of God. That makes a spiritual center for sure. It's a spiritual center and also shalom is peace. It is the yearning for peace, which has always been the Jewish way, even though that somehow many people don't see it that way, or the narrative has been turned against the Jews. So now in Israel today, there are two major cities, Tel Aviv, I guess you could say three if you include Haifa. Tel Aviv and Haifa and then Jerusalem. What respective roles do they play? How does Jerusalem differ from say Tel Aviv? Well, firstly Tel Aviv is a very cosmopolitan place. Jerusalem is more ancient. Tel Aviv is the center for comrades and culture in Israel. But Jerusalem, besides for it being a holy place and a lot more the older religious, you know, the western wall, the wailing wall, etc. But also Jerusalem today is a very vibrant city ever since 1967 when the Israeli government recaptured Jerusalem from the Jordanians who waged an offensive war against Israel in 1967. And the Jews were victorious in that battle and we reunited Jerusalem because from 1948 when Israel was established the Jordanians fought the Israelis and they captured eastern Jerusalem. They destroyed all the Jewish, first of all they expelled all the Jews from east Jerusalem. They destroyed all the Jewish synagogues and temples as well as even Jewish cemeteries destroyed all of that and Jerusalem was a divided city. And in 1967 when Israel was victorious against its Arab foes it recaptured eastern Jerusalem, reunited the city, made it a city which is free, everyone is free to worship God in their way. Muslims are free to worship and the mosques and the Christians are free to worship in the churches and the Jews are free to worship in the synagogues. And besides for it being a religiously place of tolerance for all nations of the world, literally fulfilling the biblical prophecy of the prophets of old when they said that Jerusalem will be a home for all people. It is also a very, very business-wise, high-tech-wise it's becoming a major center in Israel in all fields of endeavor. On the main airport, a load airport, that's right between Tel Aviv and Jerusalem? It's actually closer to Tel Aviv, it's right pretty much Tel Aviv. It's probably about an hour and an hour and a half drive from there up to Jerusalem. So help me on this. I have understood that the U.S. has offices and the Israeli government for that matter has its offices and its basic governmental establishment in Jerusalem rather than Tel Aviv in my right. Correct, right. And this is how preposterous this whole phenomena is there is no country in the world that doesn't decide where its capital should be. And it's no one else's business, really. We don't say to Jordan, you cannot have a man as your capital. We don't say to France that Paris is not your capital, et cetera, et cetera. Each country decides where its capital is going to be. Fair. And Israel is no different than any other country, especially as we just mentioned before, the rich history of Jews dating back 3,000 years, a little over 3,000 years where it was the capital of Jerusalem. So Israel, when Israel was declared a state, it declared Jerusalem as its capital. But because the world couldn't swallow that, that was too much, it never acknowledged Israel as, I mean, Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. So by our president, President Trump, making the declaration and the announcement that which he promised early on in his presidency that he would recognize Jerusalem as a capital, that which all four or five presidents before him have always campaigned on, he was going to do. And that's what he did. And it was, I think, is very important because as he said, he's just acknowledging a reality. And it's also by right that Israel has the right to choose its capital. So it is the reality, as far as Israel is concerned, that Jerusalem is the capital of the country. And traditionally, you put embassies from foreign countries in the capital of the country, such as all the embassies in this country and Washington, because that's where it goes. And he made this promise early in his presidency. I believe in his campaign. Yeah. So he's following through on that. But why now? I mean, does somebody have his ear about this? Is somebody asking him, was there any particular event in the world that made him want to do this now in what December of 2017? I don't know, to be honest with you. I know it's something that Jewish people have been lobbying for a long, long time, as well as our friends on the Christian right have been lobbying for what is just and right. True. A lot of Christian people see Jerusalem as the center of Israel, and they visit all the time. And they do that for many reasons, but including religious reasons, as the place for the birth of Christ, no? Right. And I think Trump is just going down his list and doing what he said he would do. Now he's working on the tax bill. Tax bill, Jerusalem. We're going to take a short break. Rabbi Itchel Kresenjanski of Chabad of Hawaii. Today on Community Matters, we're talking about my heart. My heart is in Jerusalem. 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I'm RV Kelly, host of Out of the Comfort Zone, and I will see you next Thursday. Okay, today's Tuesday, the 19th of December. We're here on Community Matters. We're talking with Rabbi Itchel Krasunjansky, who is the Rabbi of Chabad of Hawaii. And we're talking about, my heart is in Jerusalem. We're talking about the recent announcement by President Trump, making at least recognizing from the United States the point of view that Jerusalem is, and the reality already is, the capital, and should be the place for the American Embassy in Israel. So, you know, this is a move that he made which has implications, even though it's recognizing, really recognizing a reality and maybe something that should have happened a long time ago, actually. But now there is this pushback.  What does it mean to put the embassy in Jerusalem? Well, you know, I'm a rabbi. I'm not a politician, so I don't know how well I can do diplomatically, explaining things diplomatically, but I believe the reason why it's very important and also the reason why we've seen such pushback, not only from the Arab world, but also from almost all countries except for a handful. That is because the larger question is, Israel's right to exist in the land of Israel. Not the capital. That's really what's driving this whole debate. It's the larger question, does Israel have a right to the land of Israel? The Arabs say no. They still today do not accept Israel's right, except for perhaps Egypt, but Israel's right to exist. And so therefore a lot of the western world, what I'm thinking is, let's not rock the boat.  Meaning the Arab people. Meaning the Arab, right. But Israel and President Trump rightfully agrees that Israel has a right to exist. It has a right to exist because Israel is our biblical homeland. It's interesting, by the way, talking about Jerusalem. In the Koran, there's not one mention of the... One time is the city of Jerusalem mentioned in the Koran. Their holy place is Mecca and Medina. When they pray on the Temple Mount, they pray towards Mecca and Medina. They pray towards Jerusalem. They have never seen Jerusalem as their spiritual capital. In the Old Testament, in the Bible, Israel is mentioned close to 600... I'm sorry, Jerusalem is mentioned close to 600 times in the Bible. So, you know, Israel was promised to the Jewish people from the very first Jew, Abraham.  And that's written in the Bible. That's written in the Bible. The Old Testament. Right. The Old Testament. And even if you don't... Even if you're not a believer, even though that millions and hundreds of millions of people believe in the Bible, as God's word, but even if you don't want to go to that, Israel, in 1948, they recognized and established, you know, modern-day Israel, the state, which was immediately... The reaction of the Arabs was to wage a war and to literally try to destroy this fledgling state, and they lost in 1948. And every country in the history of the world is established that the winner draws the borders. Sure. That's how you... That's the human condition everywhere. That's the human condition from the beginnings of time. Yeah. So, even if you don't, you know, even if you don't... If you're not convinced from just what the Bible says, so forget the Bible, this is just the reality of how nations are formed, that the victor is the one who establishes his presence. And Israel never initiated a war. That's very important to remember. Israel never initiated a war. It always, beginning from 1948 and 1967, before 1954, I think it was, in 1973, Israel was always attacked. Yeah. Well, you know, the pushback is really hard to understand, and my own view is that it reflects a kind of anti-Semitism. It's not limited to anti-Zionism. Anti-Zionism is, in many ways, a pure example of anti-Semitism. And so the Arabs are always going to oppose the existence of Israel in general, just as you say. But given all that, how will we see this pushback expressed? And I worry, you and I sat at this very table, I think it was like two years ago, and we talked about the violence that was happening on the very same streets of Jerusalem. People attacked at random for no reason at all. Ordinary citizens being attacked where they walk down the street. Really horrendous things were happening. We talked about that. Are we going to see that? What's going to happen with the people who are involved in the pushback, the anti-Zionism, the anti-Jerusalemism, the anti-Semitism? What's going to happen, do you think? Well, first of all, thank God Israel is a strong country today. And its military and its police are very, very, very strong. And they thwart many, many, many daily attempts of terrorist activities that they thwart. And as a matter of fact, Israel is a model for many nations in how to combat terrorism. They're very good at it, yes. They are.  When they came for the homosexuals, I didn't care because I wasn't a homosexual. And then by the time, you know, the list goes on, by the time they came to me, I was the only one left to defend for myself. When Israel was the first country to be affected by the terrorism, 20 years now or more, and really many people in the world were almost unashamedly saying that Israel is at fault. Because if we just acknowledged and gave the Arabs more land, if we gave them Gaza, then it will all be good. That hasn't worked. Not only hasn't worked, it only intensified the problem because they turned Gaza into like a launching pad for terrorism. So when no one cared about what's happening to Israel, Israel is the only country that was being affected by terrorism. But today, it's not Israel. It's every other country, including our country here. You know, my beginning of 2011, surely Europe, surely the Middle East. But thank God Israel is able to do its best to restrain and to quash these terrorist efforts. And the reason why it's so important, President Trump's announcement, declaration, is because the truly can never, ever, ever be peace, unless both sides acknowledge the reality. As long as the Arabs deny the reality and refuse to acknowledge it, it will never be peace. Israel would never accept... Israel would not have a peace partner. So I think by gestures or declarations like that, recognizing the reality, I think that's the only hope for peace because peace will only come if both sides recognize the reality. Well, you may have to have a pay a price in terms of the violence that might break out here. It hasn't broken out in any significant way just yet, but that doesn't mean it won't break out later in some way.  What is Chabad's position on Palestine, I'm sorry, Jerusalem in Israel, on the President's declaration and on the pushback? Well, you know, Chabad has a Rebbe. A Rebbe in Hebrew is for a grand leader. It was Rabbi Schneersen who was recognized as the world's greatest Jewish leader of our time. He passed away about over 20 years ago. Rebbe was a very fierce, fierce advocate for strong Israel. Rebbe argued that concessions, making concessions, giving into the demands of territorial concessions is wrong because not only does it not bring to peace but on the contrary, just the opposite because once Israel concedes here, the Arabs see this not as a gesture of wanting for peace but as weakness in the part of Israel.  And this has been ever since they had the peace accord and, what was the name of it? Not the Y Accords before the... No matter. Yeah, one of the big peace accords that everyone harkens back to as, you know, that glorious achievement, if you look, you'll see that the Intifada and all of the terrorist activities in Israel happened afterwards because the Arabs don't see it as what it was, Israel wanting peace so bad that it's ready to give up its territory. They saw that, okay, we can now, if we kill some more Jews and we put more pressure, world pressure, then we can bring Israel down altogether. Yeah, with the bottom line being, let's bring Israel down. That's the real purpose we don't care about peace. We just want to bring it down. And they say that clearly. It's not something that we have to figure out. They say it clearly. Ask Hamas to look into their charter. So if I want to help Israel at this point, American Jew, what do I do? How do I express myself, aside from having a show with you, Rabbi? Well, so first of all, because as a Rabbi, first of all, we Jews are spiritually a one people, organically one, spiritually. And when we are healthy spiritually on an individual level, that brings spiritual power to our brethren in Israel. So that's the most important way we can help. Every time you do a mitzvah, that means a good deed. A good deed is not only is good for your soul and for your life as an individual, it is good for the collective, for the Jewish people. And that's really why the Jewish people have survived all throughout this, these pogroms and holocausts, et cetera. It's a supernatural phenomenon. But also important is a lot of people are just fed misinformation about Israel being the occupier and Israel being apartheid and Israel being the aggressor. These are all plain, fragrant lies. These are just lies. And I think it's important to, you know, when talking to people who are open-minded and just want to know the truth, to be able to tell the truth as it is. Unapologizing. Really important. And we want to do that here at ThinkTech. But let me ask you one more thing. You know, so the president says that he wants to recognize, declare that he wants to recognize Israel, that he is recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Then the Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, says that he doesn't think this is going to happen right now. It's going to happen in three years. It's going to take him three years to actually move, you know, physically move the embassy of the United States from Tel Aviv, I guess, is where it is now, to Jerusalem where the president declared it would be. What challenges do we have? What do you expect is going to happen here? Is this going to be a smooth road, or are there going to be obstacles and, you know, things we have to do, that we have to overcome in order to achieve this move of the physical embassy to Jerusalem? Well, I'm sure there are going to be obstacles as I believe they just tried in the UN. They tried to force a vote to undeclare Jerusalem as the capital, and the United States vetoed it. I'm sure there will be many, many more things like that on the diplomatic front, as well as in many other ways. But I think that Israel has to stay the course, has to be strong as it is. And eventually people will come to realize that this is a reality that they have to embrace and live with, and hopefully even come to respect it and to see the righteousness of it. And then we can move on to the next stage, which hopefully is peace in that region. So this declaration takes on all kinds of secondary meaning, that it becomes iconic, it becomes central in the whole conversation, doesn't it? It does, it does. I just want to say one thing before we conclude that today is the last day of the Festival of Hanukkah. Eight days? Yeah, the eighth day of tonight brings in the eighth day of Hanukkah. We light eight candles tonight. The story of Hanukkah and the message of Hanukkah is really a universal message. And it is explained that the lighting of the menorah to bring light at night where it's dark in the larger sense is our task in this world to bring light into the dark places. And the nature of things is that light dispels darkness. So if we are lit and we shine, we dispel darkness. And darkness is many levels for everyone to be something else. But the whole Festival of Hanukkah, the whole story of Hanukkah is the triumph of light over darkness. And I'm sure one day it'll come to the Middle East as well. Thank you, Rabbi. Thank you, thank you for inviting me. It's been a pleasure. Rabbi Ichal Krasnjansky, the Rabbi of Chabad of Hawaii here on Community Matters, talking about Jerusalem. My heart is in Jerusalem. Aloha. Thank you.


Attention spans are notoriously short online which is why it's so important to make an impact with your copywriting from the moment people arrive on your web pages. In this interactive one-day session we are going to be looking at both the science and the art behind effective copywriting for websites. I'm Phil Woodford CIM course director and I'll be guiding you through some of the very latest thinking on usability, on search engine optimization and the use of personas. So please do join us for this one-day course where you'll have a chance to do some writing, get some constructive critique and go back into your daily work with renewed enthusiasm and confidence.


The topic today is comedic villains in film on this episode of The Good, The Bad, and The Funny. That's a working title. Here, on Guru Hub. Failing to file a TPS report with a cover sheet is never really something to laugh about. It wasn't at least until Office Space came out. That was mainly thanks to the perfect delivery by Bill Lumberg, played by Gary Cole. He's the smug, douchey boss most people have faced at some point in their career. A lot of people probably can't relate to the whole building burning to the ground over a swing line stapler, but we can certainly laugh at the misfortunes of Lumberg. It still upsets me to this day that Emperor's New Groove didn't reach the same levels of praise the other Disney properties have. It is the funniest film the company has put out by a mile.  Do yourself a favor, watch this movie immediately. 1987's Spaceballs continues to be just as relevant today, as it ever has been before, as Disney continues to pump out new Star Wars flicks every single year. Rick Moranis as Dark Helmet is the main reason to return to this film.  I think it's time for Moranis to come out of retirement, make that sequel we all deserve. Spaceballs, the last Schwartz. Regina George is that awful type of person most have crossed paths with in high school. The hot, back-stabbing leader of the plastics, played by Rachel McAdams, is all sorts of fetch. She can dance, she can flirt, she can rock a mean diet, and definitely knows how to put together one hell of a scrapbook. It's a shame she couldn't hear loud, fast-moving objects. Seriously Hollywood, how often do you think this happens in real life? There's been like a thousand instances on screen of unsuspecting people in the middle of the road getting hit by fast-moving vehicles. Don't believe me? Here's a fast montage. Joan Cusack puts in one of the most criminally underrated villain performances as Debbie Jolinsky, aka Black Widow in Adam's Family Values. This is an amazing sequel for many reasons, but the curvy femme fatale takes it to another level from the first. The fact that she has a slideshow showcasing her previous victims is demented enough. Killing her parents over a Malibu Barbie? Well, that's just good old-fashioned crazy. Crazy in the funniest way possible. That's not what I wanted. That's not who I was. I was a ballerina, graceful, delicate. They had to go.  It's complex, it's dumb, but that's where Mugatu likes to live. And it's absolutely no dumber than dying in a freak gasoline fight. He deserves our respect, though. The man invented the piano key necktie. He invented it! Nobody makes White Goodman bleed his own blood. Nobody. Ben Stiller has played some real gems before, but the Globo gym owner and professional dodgeball player is about as good as it gets. Sporting a killer handlebar mustache in an entourage of American gladiator rejects makes him the perfect adversary. Adversary, am I saying that right? There's nobody over there.  This guy goes from class to ass very quickly in Happy Gilmore. Christopher McDonald descends into madness with little temper tantrums and rhyming threats. You better be careful what you say or you'll pay. As a bonus we have another great Ben Stiller role as a sadistic orderly running an old lady quilting sweatshop. This is handmade quality sh** we're talking about here. My fingers hurt. Oh, well, now your back's gonna hurt because you just pulled landscaping duty. Anybody else's fingers hurt? I didn't think so. The amount of times I've seen Home Alone 1 and 2 is definitely equal to the amount of bones Harry and Marv have broken due to McAllister's traps. I mean any one of the many scenarios they are involved in would have killed a normal person, but not these two. They keep taking the hits even when they're at the end of their literal rope. A perfectly kicked football to the groin has been funny since the dawn of time. Home Alone movies expand that premise to involve paint cans, staple guns, blow torches and whatever else this twisted child can conjure up. And Pesci and Stern sell that pain every single time. The details of Dr. Evil's life are quite inconsequential. He went to Evil Medical School and wants to take over the world. It's pretty standard, really. Mike Myers manages to not only make Dr. Evil one of the most memorable and funny villains of all time, but also one that overshadows the lead, Austin Powers, who's also played by Mike Myers, so he's overshadowing himself. Dr. Evil's a visionary, which is impressive when you take into account his terrible upbringing. His father would womanize, he would drink, he'd make outrageous claims like he invented the question mark. Sometimes he'd accuse chestnuts of being lazy. All that said, Dr. Evil created an empire, raised a child during adolescence, and made sure his cat, Mr. Bigglesworth, only had the fanciest of feasts. And I think he's pretty groovy. This is just a sampling of the many great villains in comedies. And I asked Twitter and Facebook for their thoughts. They gave me some. Noah Spence has zero hesitation picking syndrome from the Incredibles. Z-Lander gives bigger in the win. Bill Murray from Kingpin is a great pick. He was just shy of making my list. Caleb's pick is for the fairy godmother from Shrek 2. The fairy godmother from Shrek 2. You have to live with that choice, Caleb. It's not mine to judge. Thank you for watching this episode of The Fast and the Funniest. That's a working title. Let's end with a little bit more Dr. Evil. We hold the world ransom for 100 billion dollars.


Felly, yma, ymlaen ni'n cyfweldon ni, fel ymlaen i hyn ymwneud hynny. Felly, ym gyfweldon ni, hefyd, ond ddynion gyfweldon ni, Llywodraeth Llywodraeth, Dypaith yng Nghymru, felly mae'n gwiswyd gyda'r ffrifatigau materio yn gyfweldon yma, ond mae'n mynd i'n blyneddol. Rwy'n gweld yma, maen nhw eisiau gwneud yma, ydych chi'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio. Mae'r ddechrau yn ymdîl yn gweithio'r holl ddau'r bobl yn gwirio'r holl ffons ynghylch neu'r ddau cyfeirio'r holl wedi'i cyfnod y ddechrau. Mae'r ddiwedd o'r Android yn ddim yn gwirio. Mae'n gweithio'r holl wedi'u holl ddau. Mae'n ddau'r holl o'r holl sy'n gyfnod o'r holl ar ôl hwnnw, on Sunday at about half past noon, assuming I'll get the slides written, so that's the advert. But the other end of the project, which is the other end of the day to show that we leave behind, we're going to come from the other direction and look at some social media analytics. And there's going to be a tiny bit of maths, but I guess we haven't all massively been to the bar yet, so this is the time to get the maths in. So assumption, your various social media networks are a little bit tribal. There will be people you know from work, people you know from various social contexts, et cetera, et cetera. So we're going to represent your Twitter network as a graph. And we're going to say, because we're all a little bit tribal, there are going to be nodes on that graph that are more densely connected to each other than everybody else. Assum... I wish I had a nice big pointed stick, but never mind. Assumption the second, if you start somewhere on that graph and take a random walk around it, you are more likely to stay within your given tribe, your given cluster, and you're more likely to stay within the cluster in which you started. Do, for instance, young rewards date to teenage hackers, are they more tribal and have more segregated follower networks than your middle-aged Python dev, we shall see. But to try and find these clusters, these networks, we're going to use a technique called MCL. Here comes the maths. We're going to stick with a really trivial network, two nodes. A node A has a self-loop and B just has a link back to node A. And we're going to draw a matrix to represent that. So one means there's a link, zilch means there isn't, so A links to itself and to B, B links just back to A. We're going to normalise the columns to get the probabilities of hopping around that network. So the columns were sum to one. So if you're in A, 50-50 charts, you'll stay in A or hop over to B. If you're in B, by definition, you must hop back to A. That's all you can do. That's how we've set up our trivial graph. Here comes the science bit. In order to work out the probability of being in a given node at some time, all you have to do, all, going back to high school maths, is square the matrix. So you do it once and multiply the matrix by itself. Well, if you started at A, you've got 50% chance of hopping to B, and then if you're at B, well, it's a certainty you'll hop back to A. So if you're at B, you must be at A the next hop, and you left A in the first place with a probability of 50%. So that's 50%. And another 50%, if you started at A, you've got a 50% chance of hopping away to B. So after two hops, you've got a probability of three quarters of being in A, clear as mud. Getting the quarter for staying at A if you started at B, if you started at A, is left as an exercise to the viewer. So to take it as read, you multiply the matrix by itself, you get the updated probabilities for being in a particular node. Then you cheat or rather you over-dramatise the probabilities. You square them. This time on an element y square. If you square a number that's less than one, which it is because it's a probability, it's going to get smaller. The smaller it is, the smaller it's going to get. So you stretch the probabilities. So after two hops, we've gone 9 tenths to 1 tenth, and B is still 50-50 split. So if you started at A, you've got, we've over-dramatised, and we've said we've got a 90% chance that you'll still be at A, only 1 tenth chance you'll still be at B after two hops. So you keep doing that until things stop changing and you get convergence.  And if you look at a given row, and you see which entries in that row are ones, that will be, given that I'm in this particular node now, which of the individual elements are credible starting points. If I'm here now after convergence, where is it credible I started from? And that is going to define your cluster. So let's try it out. My learned colleagues, two of them, they've got about 7,000 once-removed friend-follow relationships and we're going to apply this MCL algorithm to it. And we're going to test it. Now the, I guess what you test it against is the sort of popular open-source network stroke graph analysis program, GEFFI. So GEFFI will have lots of nice layer options for your graphs and there is a particular layer option called open-award, which is supposed to emphasise clustering. And GEFFI has its own clustering algorithm called the LeVain method. So what we'll do, we'll cluster with MCL, cluster with LeVain and see what they look like in GEFFI's layout that emphasises clusterings. LeVain method probably can't see too well, but all the clusters or rather all the nodes that are close together are all pretty much of one colour. So the layout that emphasises clustering has put nodes in the same cluster together. MCL, oh dear, looks like an explosion in a paint shop. Oh, it didn't work. Who's convinced by that? Who have I fooled by going here's two GIFs, two nicer graph visualisations and oh, well fair do's. This one's got all the colours in nice neat clusters, so that method must work. Well, let's have a little sanity check. I ask, why did LeVain do this?  And this is William Bennett. Dino Pony, I think he mostly likes apples. William Bennett likes harsh electronic music and a Talvisco. What on earth did LeVain do putting them in the same cluster? Something's probably a little bit wrong with the LeVain method. Ask the researchers to rate the clusterings for both methods, LeVain and MCL. If you look at the list of people and go, I know who these people are, and I can identify the context that they've got in common, give it top marks. I guess the other classifications aren't really that relevant. Bear in mind that sort of 7,000 next nearest neighbours, so they don't really know very many of the individuals in that extended network. But one in five of the MCL clusters, they'd be like, oh, people I know from this university, people I used to hang out with in or during X. So there's a context. LeVain, not one single cluster, generally pretty random looking. And the nice thing about MCL is that even I can implement it. Now, why did Geffy's method go so wrong? I don't particularly hate on the LeVain method or Geffy because I wrote neither of them. Elephant in the room is that MCL took ten minutes to run on my little box and Geffy clusters that makes the clusterings in a matter of 20 seconds. But LeVain is too clever by half. It tries to slowly build up larger clusters from smaller ones. But given that the degree of Twitter networks is so huge, if you pull in one Twitter account that you shouldn't, you pull in all their friends and followers as well, and if you make a mistake early on, there's no way to break that clustering, you're stuffed. MCL, on the other hand, it's so dumb. It's not even aware of what a cluster is. All it is is updating a table of probabilities and we interpret those as clusters. So I've seen that sort of do the LeVain method or do the informal layout method working quite well for other humanities type data, but when the degree of the network is much, much, much less than that of Twitter. One good example was a graph of which Egyptian scribes had which customers in a particular town. So shout out to the tools, Twython, Celery, Redis, Rabbit, NQ, for acquiring the Twitter data, store it in Neo4j, turn the handle and do the crunching with NumPy, and Geffie did do the pictures, NicePython Library Network X. Any questions or rotten fruit? That probably was somewhat more than 10 minutes. Tony, silence!


Hello and welcome to the session. In this session we are going to discuss the following question and the question says that Determine the area of rectangle that is 7 inches by 10 inches in square millimeters. Here we are given the measurement of the rectangle as 7 inches by 10 inches. So firstly we will find the area of the rectangle. The length of the rectangle is 7 inches and the width of the rectangle is 10 inches. So here the length and width both are given in the same units that is inches. As we know area of the rectangle is L into W that is length into width. So here the area will be equal to 7 inches into 10 inches which is equal to 70 square inches. Now the given area is in inches and we need to find this area in square millimeters. So the initial unit is square inches and the desired unit is square millimeters. So to convert inches into millimeters we first convert inches into centimeters and then into millimeters. Now we know 1 inch is equal to 2.54 centimeters. 1 centimeter is equal to 10 millimeters. So from 1 we have 1 inch upon 2.54 centimeters is equal to 1 or 2.54 centimeters upon 1 inch is equal to 1. Similarly from 2 we have 1 centimeter upon 10 millimeters is equal to 1 or 10 millimeters upon 1 centimeter is equal to 1. So we choose 2.54 centimeters upon 1 inch as the conversion factor as we have to convert inches to centimeters and we choose 10 millimeters upon 1 centimeter as the conversion factor as the desired unit is millimeters. As we know to convert units of area we need to square the conversion factors. So 70 square inches is equal to 70 square inches into 2.54 centimeters upon 1 inch whole square into 10 millimeters upon 1 centimeter whole square. This is equal to 70 square inches into 6.4516 square centimeters upon 1 square inch into 100 square millimeters upon 1 square centimeter. So here square inches cancel with square inches, square centimeters cancel with square centimeters and we obtain this as 70 into 6.4516 into 100 millimeters square which is equal to 45161.2 millimeters square 70 square inches is equal to 45161.2 square millimeters. So area of the rectangle is equal to 45161.2 square millimeters which is the required answer. This completes our session. Hope you enjoyed the session.


Hello and a warm welcome to NewsClick and your host, Neelu Vyas, with a special program called Point of View, which brings you discussions, analysis, debates from the polebound states. This is a program which cuts the clutter and tries to bring sense to the chaos. Today, we are going to talk about the battleground Goa, the smallest state with 40 with Hansabha constituencies.  What is the mood of the voter? What are the issues in this coastal state which are resonating in this election? And which way the voters will swing? But the biggest question right now in front of everyone is that can the grand old party Congress dethrone BJP this year and come back to power after 10 years? Joining me on the show, former Chief Minister of Goa and Congress veteran, Digambar Kamat. Mr. Kamat, welcome on NewsClick. Thank you. Mr. Kamat, my first question to you is that how difficult is this election really for Congress? I would not say that the election is difficult, but yes, we all will have to work hard. There is no doubt about it because Congress has regained all the strength which we are feeling that we have lost when 10 ML is defective. But one bold decision we took that these 10 defectors shall not be admitted to the party at any cost. Rahulji also spelled out the same policy. And today we see that the defectors have remained out of Congress bound and they are now struggling to get reelected. People have really appreciated that that Congress first time in the history in the state of Goa have decided not to admit a single defector in its party. This has given a clear message to the people of Goa. But why do you think that the people defected from the party? You really recently also had a symbolic oathstaking where the legislators pledged that they will not quit the Congress party. But why do you think were the people leaving Congress? If you look at Goa's politics right from 1990s there were days when we had three chief ministers in two days. So that has been the maximum anti-defection crazies before the courts were from Goa. So Goa had that sort of tradition right from beginning. But today the educated people now the people are getting younger generation and getting educated. Young generation knows the things in the right perspective and they feel that they should stop. Under no circumstances they should be allowed to continue. And that is why we are getting a tremendous support from the general public. Yes, you are taking a good stand of not admitting any single defector without bothering about the inability capacity whether he's able to win or not, we are not bothered. But we said no compromise with respect to defectors. Now, when we went to take the pledge there was a perception amongst the people that the Congress party should take precaution to see that nothing happens like this. And one suggestion which came was that Goans by and large have full faith in their religion irrespective of caste, creed, and community. If you are Hindu, you have faith in your religion. If you are Catholics, you have faith in your Muslim. But how confident are you that the legislators will not violate that oath? Because it has happened in the past. This time you have seen, you have new faces. God gave us an opportunity to select new faces which people expected. Many of our veteran leaders left. They left to join other parties. But that was a good thing and what was to happen. And probably God wanted that this thing to happen. And today out of 40, we have nearly 30, 35 new faces which are given to the people of Goa which people have been saying that, yes, Congress should come with the new faces. That's a good advantage. Mr. Kamat, whatever new experiments the Congress party is doing, but if you look at the opinion polls surveys which have come recently, they all are giving BJP anywhere seats between 15 and 20. So which means that... I do not believe in these opinion polls. These polls are all formulated by the state interest. Today you can get any poll done anytime and get it on any channel and start discussion. That has no meaning. You have to come to Goa, visit Goa, meet the people, see the mood of the people. People are angry with the ruling dispensation. I don't think anybody who has lost people in the COVID mismanagement will ever think of voting for BJP. 3,500 people have died here because of the mismanagement. 300 people have died because of shortage of oxygen. They have not died. They have been murdered by this government. I will make a categorical statement because this is a responsibility of the government to supply oxygen.  People had to file a PIL in the High Court and High Court expressed saying that this is what is happening. This is really a mockery of democracy. You are given a mandate to rule the state. It is your responsibility at good governance with what? You expect to take care of the health of the people of Goa and you have 3,500 people die in a population of 15 lakhs. Yesterday there have been 15 deaths. What the government is doing? 15 people are back yesterday. But Mr. Kamat, the most difficult question is that even if Congress gets numbers and looking at what happened in 2017, you have the numbers and then also the Congress, it seems, was sleeping over and couldn't form the government. Then BJP jumped into the wagon and came to power. So are you prepared this time for a plan to be supposing if you do not have the numbers? How agile the Congress is going to be? Because last time everybody remembers that they were testing little from the High Command but you were not able to form the government. Our senior observer in charge of Goa, Mr. P. Chidambaram, has categorically stated that we apologize to the people of Goa because in the last election, people have realized that BJP should be kicked out. They had kicked out the BJP. They were brought down from 21 seats to 13 seats. And we went from 9 to 17 plus 1, 18 seats. He said our leadership made some mistakes. We will see that this time those mistakes are not repeated. And he apologized to the people of Goa for having done those mistakes. He was very blunt in saying. Right. But Mr. Kamat, the constituency and the voters always look for a change. And this time in 2020, people are having a viable option in the presence of Trinamul Congress as well as Ahmadmi Party. And both are very confident that they're going to do well in Goa. So how much is the dent these parties are going to bring into Congress? And how much of the vote will they cut into? See, as far as Trinamul Congress is concerned, people have anger against this party because this party came just three, four months before. They have no contribution to the state of Goa. They have no workers. They don't have any leaders in Goa. They poached Congress leaders, took them inside. Everybody knows why they have poached Congress leaders, how they have poached Congress leaders, what were the offers given to them? That means the general perception in Goa is that TMC came to Goa thinking that Goans are wholesale for sale. We have seen the sales of clothes. We have seen the sales of garments. Like that probably they thought that Goans are also for wholesale sale. And Goans have an anger against them. They say, you are trying to buy Goans with money? Never. Goans have a clear-cut self-respect. They will work hard. They will toil hard, but they will not sell their self-respect. They are going to teach a lesson to Trinamul Congress. I always believe that Bengal and Goa were very known football teams. Their football is one of the state's sports. Both have good players. Whenever Goa and Bengal is to meet, Goa is to score goals against Bengal and send them home. I'm sure this time also Goans will send Bengal's home. And probably Mamta did he may have to say what Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru said in the 64. Ajeevai Goa. But Mr. Pukama, don't you think that if you look at the hindsight, probably Congress would have done better if you would have allied with Trinamul Congress and you would have countered the mighty force of BJP better. Had you held hands with Trinamul Congress, don't you feel so? But how do you align with them? You break our own leaders and then ask us to align? I don't think any leadership will agree for such type of a proposal. If they were really serious, they should have talked to our leadership first before entering Goa. Their presence was not there here. Ajeevai, they have come here as a team of BJP. Just to sprint towards it appears and they are not targeted BJP leaders. They are targeting only Congress leaders. And now today you will be surprised. Most of the people who have joined them are started coming back. Yeah, MPP, Melendu Mamlekar came back. But are you saying... Prasad Jhankar came back. Well, all many people are leaving. There are one founder members are leaving now saying that we have got some... These about Trinamul Congress. This is not for the people. But Mr. Kamat, you are saying that Trinamul Congress is a big team of BJP. But what about Aam Admi Party? Are they also behaving like a big team of BJP? Aam Admi Party came to Goa last election also. If you see their advertisement during last election, they had said that they will get 35% hoardshare. They are hoardings, posters, banners. 35% hoardshare, 10 to 15 MLA's. What was the result? We had been telling that time. That Aam Admi will not be able to win a single seat. And that has come true. They could not win a single seat. On the contrary, most of their candidates lost their deposits. This was the reality. This election also, they have been trying to give freebies. They are saying free power, free order. Goaans are not interested in getting free power and free order. Goaans are, I said, Goaans have self-respect. They work hard. They will toil for their work and they will sustain themselves. I was the chief minister for five years between 2007 and 2012. Not a single poor Goaan came to me saying that I want free power. I want free water supply. This is the of the Goaans people. And that is why Goaans want Goaans to be ruled by Goaans. This is the thing. They don't want any outside regional parties to come and rule the state. But Mr. Kamath, what are the issues which are really resonating amongst the voters in Goa? Because I was reading about a whole lot of issues like unemployment, unemployment, that mining is a big issue. What are the real issues which the voters are looking for in the party? First issue is three linear projects. BJP government wants Goa to be a coal hub which Goaans are opposing tooth and nail. You remember when I was the chief minister, Goaans were opposing ACZs. 17 ACZs were approved. Three were notified before I took over as the chief minister. I bought to the pressure of the Goaans. I listened to their voice because in democracy, people's voice is important and the good government has to listen to the people's voice. I listened to them. I went to Congress prison. Srimati Sonia Gandhi explained to her everything. She asked me one question. What people of Goa want? I said they don't want ACZs. They stay with the people of Goa. These were her directions to me. See, that is the way with Congress party work. We scrapped the ACZs. Goa is the only state in the country and Digambar Kamath is the only chief minister of Congress who scrapped ACZs, scrapped ACZ policy. So we showed guts that people's will is supreme as far as democracy is concerned. We had also scrapped regional plan by listening to the pressure of the people. Similarly, we said scrapped three linear projects for whom you are making these three linear projects. For coal hub, for transporting coal from Goa to Karnataka, what is the benefit of Goaans? It's a clear cut. All Goaans are up in arms against this double trekking of line, cutting off 75,000 trees.  Here, you are trying to cut 75,000 trees and that also in a wildlife century. You are trying to... Apart from these development to projects, Mr. Kamath, Arvind Kejewal has been promising pilgrimage tours to Ayodhya and likewise, these kind of pseudo religious issues... They are promising lots of things because they know they can't come to power. Party which doesn't come to power, we just know these of coming to power can promise anything. They can promise even moon and sun. Now, they are distributing cards. Ahmadmi Party is distributing cards. Arvind Kejewal's guarantee, 5,000 rupees. Trinamal Congress is distributing card, 10,000 rupees. Now, some old ladies went to that card to the banks saying that they want to withdraw 5,000. The banks told them these are duplicate cards. These are nothing to do with the bank cards. One lady came to me, my house, saying that, sir, you had given these cards, please give me 5,000 rupees. I said, I have not given this card. The person who has given this card stays in Delhi. If you want to go to Delhi, I will bear your travelling expenses by train. You have to find out that person and get 5,000 rupees. People will not get fooled like this. Now, you are talking about these assurances. In 2017, BJP said they will give unemployment allowance of 4,000 rupees per month. And they started going and filling forms from the uneducated youth who don't have employment. Our people told them, they are not interested in filling the forms. If you want to really help us and take our support, give us six months advance.  What is the use of these cards? You are fooling the people. Goans are not going to be filled. Goa has high rate of literacy, high per capita income. For whom you are distributing these cards? What is the meaning of these cards? These are all assurances which they cannot even think of fulfilling. And they are simply fooling them. Mr. Kamath, in every state, there is one dominant factor throughout India which is being talked about and that is the Modi factor. How much is the presence of Narendra Modi going to matter to the Goans really in this election? Goa is totally different. In 2017 also, Goans voted against BJP. You see, that's what I have told you. From 21 states, BJP came down to 13. In this election, I am sure BJP from 13 may come down to 8 or 9. They are all the top, the former Chief Minister, Mr. Parsekar, has resigned this contest. The former Chief Minister, son has been denied a ticket, he is contesting. See, you see the situation of the party here. No, but you are saying that when Narendra Modi starts bombarding the poll landscape with his rallies and virtual rallies, it's not going to matter too much. It didn't have any impact in 2017. Otherwise, why we would have gone from 9 to 17 plus 1, 18? That is what I am saying. I again remind you the words of Pandit Jawaharlal Nehru, Ajeevai Goa Kello. These words, everybody will have to keep in mind. And that is why in 2017, BJP was reduced from 21 to 13. They might have been able to form the government because they were ruling in itself, but they came down to 13. This is the reality. Goans are in no mood to support and bring this dispensation back. See, their Lokayukta has passed orders in 21 cases involving lots of office bearers and these party people, ministers. Not a single order has been till today acted upon. It is lying there. Former governor of Goa directly said that this is the worst and corrupt government, which is there in Goa. So, which means you were saying that Congress this time is very confident of dethroning BJP after 10 years, right? Yes, exactly because we see the pulse of the people. Wherever we go, people are responding to us saying that, yes, Congress must come this time to power. Show them their place. They have damaged us. They have damaged us in all sectors. Taxiwala, Rikshawala, motorcycle pilot, they are crying for money. They are comparing my period of five years with 10 years period of the BJP. My period of five years. Mr. Kamath, tell me one thing. 2007 to 2012 was considered as the period of prosperity where poor people had money in their hand. Whereas BJP's rule of 2012 to 2022 is considered as the period of poverty where people don't have money. Common man is crying. Right. But Mr. Kamath, BJP has a promote sovereign. But who is Congress's chief ministerial candidate because people keep putting allegations that there is rampant factionalism in Congress and which is why Congress will go down the dumps. That is the kind of perception which is being laid out in Delhi in the political corridors of power. Now there are hardly any leaders rebelling in Congress, preferably except me. Most of the leaders have joined other parties. But party's policy is very clear. They take a decision based on their assessment as whether after the election or before the election that is left to the leadership. So I don't get disturbed by that. I am all out moving across the state to see that people are galvanized, people are motivated and we see that Congress comes back to power. So am I speaking to the prospective chief minister of Goa? I am a strong believer in God. In 2007, when I was made the chief minister by Congress president, I had not even dreamt of becoming a chief minister. I was not in the race, it's a fact. But if something is written in your this, nobody can take it up. No, but there aren't many faces to be the chief minister. So that's what I asked you that you're confident of becoming the chief minister if Congress comes back to power? I am confident of getting Congress party back to power. Now in whose, whose Naseeb chief minister's chief is written is only God can tell you. I can't tell you. So who else is there apart from Mr. November Kamath? If it is written in my Naseeb, then nobody can snatch it. And if it is not written in my Naseeb, I will not get it. This is my logic and this is my way of thinking. Mr. Kamath, who else is the chief ministerial face apart from you in Congress? That party will take a call at appropriate time. Okay. That's quite a diplomatic answer, but thanks for taking all the questions with a straight back, Mr. Kamath. We show all the best. You have a long day with a heavy campaign trail. We show all the best. Thanks so much. Thank you. Thank you so much, Neil. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much. Pleasure talking to you.