But don't always, you know, when those, when the videos of the meetings are hosted and they still have all the banter, that's always interesting. That's my show. Like him. Like Christina. Oh wow we have such and Kim's outside. Nice. It's a beautiful. Kim, I was just going to look up. No, I was just going to look up that little thing we say about the. Yeah. Do you have it? Yeah, it's easy for me. I just have it under. I had it for a long time and now I don't know. Yeah, I have it under. I can easily look it up. You want me to open the meeting then. Yeah, if you open it and then. Okay. Pursuant to Governor Baker's March 2020 orders to spending certain provisions, the open meeting law. This meeting of the tack is being conducted via remote participation. That is our official call call to order. I guess. Yeah, no. Right. And then there'll be no in person members of the public in attendance, but we will hear public comment. Okay, thank you. And so our, so I guess our meeting is called to order. So first agenda item is a public comment. We don't have any members which would not include anyone at the moment. And the second is the approval of past meetings. Minutes, which Amber sent to us earlier today. And there was a question that she had on. The Thursday, July 7th. Okay. Minutes. That was whether or not we could actually approve. It says five to zero, but only four members are present. I don't know if you saw that. I guess we can approve. Can we approve with four members present. Yes. That's still a quorum. Yeah. Yes. That's what I assumed. But I guess we have to edit that. Which is our Thursday, July 7th, because there were only. For members present at the time step. Oh, okay. Got it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I can edit that and like send it back to her. Yeah. Yeah. Those were very extensive meetings. Minutes as opposed to our last meeting, which was on August 4th, which was. A quick meeting. Right.  All right. Let's. And I know so Kim will Kim breast upright. She had emailed about today. That she has another meeting. Amherst is back to having a lot of meetings. I mean, did we have another? Oh, I see. I think though, did we. Okay. That's fine. No, there was just a question with that. Oh yeah. That was her. She was like, wait, but we only had four people at the time when we were doing. Right. Okay. That's it. I'll just tell her that's fine. I just, I'm fixing it right now. And. Yeah, I didn't. I just mentioned, I didn't put anything about Lincoln Avenue on the agenda for today, but. It can be like under our next business or something, but. Okay. It's still kind of coming back. So if we, if there, if everyone's read them, we certainly can take a motion to approve or amend. I'll make a motion to approve both sets of minutes. Okay. And then we'll move on. With the, that particular. Great. Okay. And a second. Okay. Great. All those in favor, Stefan, could you? Yes. Great. Thank you. And everyone. So that is. All five of us this time. Right. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. I think the first thing that we're going to get is a update from the two of you on safe routes to school. Yeah. So Chris and I met yesterday about safe routes to school, but we didn't end up talking about safe routes to school as much as I had hoped. So we did. We did have a nice. We did have a nice. What has happened since. No, I know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We had a kickoff meeting with safe routes to school with the school district. So Kendrick Park on August 24th. It was like a Mike Morris was there. And there was a school bus and lots of things. And there was a table. For safe routes to school. Lucy. Lucy freedom bells. I don't know what's her last. Yeah. Yeah. So she was the coordinator for the four Western mass counties. And she was present too. And we provided information to people about. Safe routes to school. We asked people to fill out a survey. We had a flyer for the safe reach to school program for Massachusetts is doing a big. Events on Wednesday, October 12th. It's like international bike walk. It's like a public walk bike and roll to school day. And so they're working on some things. And the Amherst schools are talking about doing something each of the elementary schools on that day as well. We got a lot of questions about. You know, different parts of town, including. The Palma Roy village intersection. And, uh, no, it's good. No, we, I think you signed up. I mean, I don't know. How many people did you sign up for the. Oh, um, I don't know, probably 30. Oh, nice. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. So we got 30 names of parents who said they were interested in volunteering, or at least if they wanted more info. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Grycemer was there. She signed up even though I don't, she was just kind of there. Hobnobbing or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody is just for info. It's just a nice, you know, to get it going. Yeah. Yeah. No, it was good. So who has that list? I do. Oh, okay. So did it ever like. Got entered or anything. Yeah. So I think we're in this, and, um, this group and I need to email out and I need to make a few phone calls. And I need to. A parent at each place who's going to. Yeah. Can you put that? Can you put that Excel list into our. Like Google folder or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be great. I mean, I might know some parents too. So. So were there people from each school? Do you think? Like, at least among the elementary schools are probably or. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. You know, that was the most, I don't think we had any high school. Maybe there was one. High school parent. Okay. Um, but yeah, it was almost exclusively the elementary schools. And now you're a middle school parent. So you can. Yeah. Yeah. I missed the PGO meeting. But, you know, I'll figure that out. Cool. That sounds great. Yeah. It's going to go well and, um, You know, the sort of lagging piece that, um, we didn't. That we're looking for is, um, Uh, gosh, is it Jason Sibley? No, Randy Sibley from the transportation department at. The schools. Right. Was kind of willing to make us, um, Maps to show the number of, um, families within a half mile, a mile. And a mile and a half radius. It's interesting. Never happened. Um, and I think that that's, you know, That's important to know because it's sort of can help us set. Definitely realistic goals for. Um, you know, kids getting back and forth and alternative. Well, and I, I knew to that, you know, like, we had presented at one of the tech meetings this summer, right? We had presented our sort of overview. Summary findings from our, um, yeah, our field counts. But I think, you know, as we, um, so one thing to just to the rest of the committee, one thing that we wanted to do is to sort of wrap. Um, Christy and I talked yesterday about wrapping that up. Wrapping that up in terms of getting the district and maybe the town, just sort of our summary reports of our findings from each of the schools and sort of, and then I had a summary document that just sort of talks about next steps and things, but it is a helpful, it is helpful baseline data to have just about.  Right. So Fort River has a number of different magnet programs, like including the Spanish immersion program. And so, I mean, now that program I think is in it's like third year, maybe, or at least second. No, it's at least third year, I think. And so, um, so the question is like how, what percentage of Fort River students are still in the Fort River area, like close to the school as opposed to like from a completely different part of the town. Cause I know that some of the parents that I talked to at that back to school event were saying, well, you know, my kid goes to Wildwood, but I live in a totally different part of, you know, I live in South Amherst or something, right? So that's not really good. It's not like they're going to be walking or biking to school. So, very, I mean some will you could bike, but you know, people aren't going to be walking as much and stuff. So, and it was interesting too. So this year when the district put out the school bus schedules, as I noticed it was the first time that they didn't actually list like the number of kids at each address and stop, which they've always listed previously. Just based on who's eligible to go, not necessarily who actually is going. But they, you know, they traditionally said, you know, like on my street, they'll traditionally say like five Blue Hills road by three kids and, you know, they'll always say the number of kids, which is one end of the street and then the middle of the street. And they always list like the street address specifically with numbers and this year, they didn't have any numbers. And then they also sent out Mike Morris had sent them out to the elementary schools about how in certain neighborhoods and things are trying to consolidate the bus stops. And so not having them stop like at each person's, each kid's house is must watch it happen. Stopping like clusters, which makes a lot of sense, but it's always a good neighborhood experience too. I think this, there may be a state requirement that with kindergartners, but they actually stop at each kindergarteners house, but from like first grade on, you don't have to do that. So that's good. It's good for the environment to stop. I don't have anything to say in that regard. I have no idea if there was any internal change or directive. No, but did you see, did you? Well, the letter. It went out with Mike Morris is like beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did. I guess I am not much attention. I know that this year we didn't get a bus assignment. It's the first time. Since we've been in the system that we haven't had to get. Well, you're even, you're even closer now. I don't know. Are you anyway? Yeah. About the same distance, I guess. Yeah. Okay. All right. Cool. And raise the other safe routes to school kind of component. Is the signs and lines grant program Tracy, did you? Yeah. Yeah. So we can talk about that briefly. So the safe routes to school. Program, the state program, they have two different grant programs. You know, one is. The bigger infrastructure program that has been used in the past. I think like 10 years ago for improvements at Wildwood. And then there's also the small program they introduced a few years ago called signs and lines. It used to be up to $10,000. And now it's up to like $6,000. And what it basically is just paying for some like signs and lines. Maybe some new signs, painting, some new paint and things like that. I mean, your money doesn't really go far with $6,000. It's also set up where it's a reimbursement program. So, like a, a community. And a school district would need to apply. They'd have to like submit receipts and then get reimbursed. But I don't know. We were wondering, I know. Like a few years ago, I had asked at Crocker farm. When I was still a Crocker farm parent, if there'd be interested in it there. I mean, do you think that the way those. The school grants work is they need. Somebody to sign on, you know, approve it at both the. The district, the school district level in the town. Is that like, do you think anybody at the town would be like interested? It's small. We would sign. I mean, we had agreed to it, but also. They're only going to give it out to communities that have been members of the safe. School program for a while. So you have to actually get back involved. Or else they won't even. Right. Well, so we have been, I mean, right. So now it's been, because Lucy. Um, Freeman Bell, right? She came to this. She came to the tech meeting like a year ago. And like we have been in touch with them since then and the district has been. Trying to kick it off and stuff. So I don't know if that's sufficient. The applications really easy. I don't know. I don't know either. Lucy thought that we could apply. I mean, Lucy didn't discourage us from applying. Did she? Yeah. I don't think that she really knew. Yeah. She was like, sure, you know, get started. I mean, and, you know, obviously if we're denied this year. Once we have. Activity under our belt, it'll be a different story, but she didn't discourage us. Okay. So, so. Are you supposed to have. Are you supposed to have an idea of what you like when you apply? Yeah, you need to like to indicate what you're going to do. I know that Chris was going to reach out to them. Yeah. I really want to do the most hysteric. Shay at Crocker. And I think the thing he's the most interested in would be. And then Guilford, we should chat with you about the separately. You know, codes for the road. And when the traffic starts to really, really move. The school zone. 20 miles per hour. Flashing lights are literally on either side of the driveway when it comes out onto. West street. And it's. Not sufficient enough to slow the traffic down.  So I think that that would be his desire. So if you want to dig into that right now, we can. I hadn't anticipated that we would be talking about that right this second, but I know that's one of his top things. Well, and we can also ask Derek, which other one she's interested. What's other other ideas? Yeah, true. I think the programs changed a little bit and we've been going to some of the different presentations they've been doing. And it seems like they're going to send somebody to help you. Oh, interesting. And then based on what they recommend, that'll be what the grant will be based on. I mean, that could, I wonder if that's for the bigger grants, like the infrastructure grants and not just the even signs and lines. Okay. From what we can tell they're trying to bring in their people, whether it's a consultant or a contractor or whoever to do this, do an analysis and then propose what should be done. Oh, okay. I'm surprised they're doing all that for like these little tiny and dollar reimbursements, but okay. We like to pass money around in this state. So, all right. I think Crocker is definitely going to be the most willing and enthusiastic about applying for a grant right away. So just to put that on your radar screen, Gilbert and the signs and lines grants. It's like a little one page form online. And it's, it's due by, it's a due in two weeks. And to submit it, you just need to have a tiny description and like a signature from the school district and a signature from the town. That's what it needs. So, but if you, I mean, Guilford, if you're on board at least with like trying to do that or something like we can, I think we talked to Derek and so. I think it would be fine. Yeah.  But, but you know, even that and the, the support documentation it says and gets some recommendation.  It just doesn't seem to warrant a lot of, but we'll see. Yeah. And it'd be good to talk to Derek too about. Good to talk to Derek about the, what he sees is like the issues around Crocker. So, okay. Great. Thank you guys. Um, did we want, what is the walk to. School Wednesday. Yeah. So that was the one that I mentioned at the beginning of the meeting, they put out a flyer. Oh yeah, I saw that. Yeah. And so, um, it's actually, as I said, it's for the whole statewide program for like, um, the whole walk to school, whatever, safe routes to school program. Here's like the flyer. Oh yeah, I saw. Yeah. And they put one out. And so one thing Chris is going to do is just follow up with each school about like what might be viable to do at schools. I mean, then the main thing we were talking about maybe is like some walking school buses and having different events. And it would really be dependent on PGO volunteers and. Parents to like make it happen each school, but. And I'm anticipating that they won't all be happening on the 12th. Right. That's possible. That's the October timeframe. Yeah. So we had talked about trying to do like walk to school Wednesdays for all of October. Um, well, the fifth is Yom Kippur. And then there's this event on the 12th and then the other two Wednesdays. In October, right? Maybe there could be like one event at each, like each of the elementary schools on one of the Wednesdays or something depending on like what the interest is. Right. So, but just to sort of, you know, introduce it and get parents thinking about it. And hopefully get some excitement about it. So. Cool. Great. And I know that like the Crocker farm PGO is what they're having. They're having a back to school event. Um, actually on the 15th, which is the same day as the downtown block party. I don't know, but, um, but we could reach out to the officers from each school too. And just see if there's what interests that might be. So, okay.  It's here too. Hello. So our next agenda item is any updates from the TSO. Or other referrals to the tack. Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. You have someone sitting in the audience. Oh, it's Tate Coleman. Um, yeah, can we let him in please? Hi, how are you? So Tate, so I know that, um, so Tate is a grad student now at UMass. From any worked out in Berkshire County on like transit. Um, I don't, does everybody has everybody met tape before? Yes. Okay. Do you want to just give us like a quick little. Um, introduction to you. I know Tate has applied to be on our committee. Oh, yeah, but, but, and he's willing to come to our meetings, even not being on our committee. So thank you. It's interesting to hear what's going on. Thanks. So I'm. Yeah, I'm a. Grad student at UMass Amherst in a dual degree in. MRP regional planning and civil engineering. So I'm very interested in. Transportation and I've worked in for the town of Great Barrington. Uh, for quite a few years at this point. Um, Right now I'm the micro transit program director. Um, and, you know, been working in the planning office. In various capacities. Anyway. Okay. Okay. So what else do we have? So we don't have Andy Steinberg here. Um, he may be at a different meeting. I can just check in with him. Um, I know that the TS. So they met. They met a few weeks ago. They met since we last met. Um, But. But I haven't heard anything from the chair or from Andy. Yeah, right. They were gonna. Um, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Because I went to that meeting. Right. Yeah. A few of you. That was in August. Yes. And I think it was the, uh, you know, I had written all this down and I don't, I can't find it, but. Kendrick. No. The parking on Lincoln. Yeah. And that they, there was no, no real discussion. I didn't have to say anything. It's being. There's a public forum that. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Next. Next week. Actually it's, it's actually moved. So I got an update. Um, From the sponsor. So the sponsor for that request to change the parking on Lincoln. Which Jennifer top lives on Lincoln. And she's the counselor for the. The old district three. Um, the new district four. And, um, so she told me earlier this week that. Um, I think she said that she was going to move it to the 13th, October 13th. Okay. What she just told me. Um, and I know that Dorothy Pam, who's the chair of the tax, she wasn't available like in early October or something. So. Um, Um, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it's October or something. So. Um, Yeah, that sounds right to me. All right. I can double check after the scene, but it was going to be on the 13th. And, um, and I didn't put. Um, I didn't put that item on the agenda, but if we have time at the end, we could talk about a little, or we could talk about it at our next meeting. Because some of the residents have been, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't have any recommendations beyond what we had recommended originally. So. Okay. Okay. Maybe we should talk about that. Maybe we should plan it as an agenda. Yeah. Agenda item for next time too. Absolutely. Um, okay. Great. So, um, Are there updates on north fuzzen at Kendrick. Go for any updates. Providing that. Yes. Yeah. Okay. And let's see there's at least. Two do not enter sides. Sign. Which everyone ignores. And two wrong way signs too. The wrong way signs are a lot a little harder and one way signs and one way pavement arrows and. The left turn only in the right turn only and. I mean, are you seeing a lot of people still trying? Yeah. I thought the run one way, the wrong way ones are hard to ignore. No, it's really awful. So I got into, I was on my bike. Going the wrong way, which is allowed. I know he allowed. Yeah. I got into a. Screaming match with somebody who was like, Oh yeah, I saw that, but, you know, it's different from the last time I was here. So. I was like, so turn around. And yeah, it's been fun. And there are a lot of people who just ignore it. It's really awful. But the parking situation is much improved. Honestly, it makes the visibility so much better. On that street. It's so much better because they're, you know, it's pretty much wall to wall parking now. So. Yeah. So it'll be good. The minute the students came back, I saw. It's well, it's like all the way down the street. Yeah. Yeah. But. It seems, you know, it seems it's definitely better. And I could definitely see even if, if people who are visiting the park could actually park there, it's so much safer for those people. Right. Great. Well, and they can park there like on the weekends, right? And after. No, they can't. If ever, if anybody ever moves all the time. So, but, but ultimately they're going to be like some, some paid a park parts of that. Right. So they will be freed up for people who are visiting the park. Yes. Yes. If you get rid of the, if you put the winter parking ban back into effect, you'll get rid of a lot of that as well. I'm happy with the winter parking ban. Who isn't happy with that? We got rid of it because there's insufficient because there's a lot of things developed where there's not sufficient off street parking. So. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately it looks like that's just a big parking lot now, but, but whatever, at least it's safer for site site views there. So. And there's still the metered parking at the end and things. Well, at the two way part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And on the other street, Halak on Halak, there's a couple of meters on Halak.  Like one thing, one pattern that people do a lot is like coming from the north, like coming from UMass and North pleasant as they. And then they would also turn on the Halak and they would like skip downtown. And so I did stop like a few. I did stop a car and say, you know, it's not. One way. Right. It's all marked for one way. And. And I think personally, I, you know, initially. I mean, it first went up that day of that event with them, the public schools, like the back to school. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, I mean, but there's been the more signs. There's been the more wrong way signs and things are, they're pretty hard to ignore.  But I mean, now there's enough signage that people should be noticing. I mean, and if it's a big problem, I mean, maybe there needs to be like some enforcement or something. Yeah. Although today it seemed like coming back. I mean, you know, you know, there's kind of a backup at the rotary and people aren't using it as a cut through. So we're in today, at least for the three minutes I was on it. So. Maybe, maybe the Amherst police could just put a car there, like even without an officer in it or something. I've been thinking about that. Yeah. So. So one question. I know. I one question. I know Marcus wanted to bring up. And it's just on the North end, right? Because it was originally two lane, the two directions to lanes is that it's very wide right there. And that the DPW crews, they did market on the pavement. You know, so that it's, so say stay in the one lane only. But then. I mean, I guess there could be really wide turners or something, but I mean, is it possible to even have like a, I don't like a temporary barrier or something. No, it's. No, because trucks can't make the left turn. Oh. But how many trucks are going to be going now that it's, isn't it hard for trucks to be on there in the first place? We still have to be on there. And there, there is actually a lot of construction, you know, in the back, like in the back. That's true. I mean, this is the reason why we don't like to do things partially. I just told Tracy this already. No, I know. We had ripped everything up and redid everything. It would look like something totally different. It wouldn't look the same for one. Yeah. The second is we could have raised the pavement that you're talking there, the paved area you're talking about. We can raise that up. So it's comfortable for cars and drive across, but trucks could still drive across it. Like an apron. Yeah. No, I agree with you go for it. I mean, ideally, right? It all gets on at the same time there, but there isn't the funding. And I mean, what if it's not in like next year's work plan either? Right? It needs. Honestly, honestly. And like him is seeing like a huge safer. It's a lot safer already. And it's all. And I think, you know, if there is some. Police enforcement or whatever, not even ticketing, just like letting people know and. And I mean, there's enough signage now. Like I think it will, it will get out of people's head to do it. Hopefully just, just removing all those, the obscuring the sight lines from the driveways really has me go straight a lot safer. So go for it. Do you think there's any. Would it be possible to have like one of those little except bike signs where it says, do not enter. If we don't have it striped for a bike lane. We've been talking about it. We've kind of run into some opposition to that. Oh, you're doing what? Well, I was just, so I had suggested, I mean, I'd talk, I'd ask Jason and go for it just about in some places. And they do this in like Cambridge and Somerville and parts of Europe. Sometimes you have these streets that are considered bike streets. And if we've significantly cut down on the cut through traffic and things like. So what you can do, what you do on those streets is that you have one way car traffic or motor vehicle traffic and then two way bike traffic. And that you don't, on some of them you have bike lanes designated and marked on the pavement, but a lot of times you don't, you just, you basically will let the bikes bike where they feel like the safest, which hopefully isn't in the middle of the road and things. And that you, so you're basically accommodating the two way bike traffic instead of. Because right now, right? If you, if you look at the do not enter sign, you could say that applies to bikes too. So like Kim, if you're biking. Oh yeah, no, no, no, I got that. Yeah. So argument with a, with a guy in his car about that. So, you know, I couldn't explain that I'm on the committee that like just, and I know that this is too, I didn't get that. Well, I was arguing, but yeah. So I mean the studies haven't shown, the studies haven't shown like an increase like a risk to bike lanes or anything if that happens. And I don't know, a part of me too would even argue that even when the road is redesigned, like if you're going to have all the back in parking and, and I'll say we're still going to have on the west side, you're still going to have all those driveways in those situations that can be safer to not actually have a striped bike lane where people feel like I have to stay in the bike lane, because if people are, you know, turning into or coming at, you know, the best place to stay that way. It's just, you know, you're not going to have to go all the way to the west side. You want the bikes to feel like I can bike where I feel safe and thanks to me, but. Okay. But it is much nicer. Honestly. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you go Frenzy. Yeah. Much, much nicer. One happy customer. You don't only get complaints. I thank Jason too. Right. Jason, the crews. He did it. So. Okay. Yeah, so this was a question that Stefan had asked to go on agenda and hopefully he can get off me if you want to speak. But just in general, I'll just, he had emailed me asking about one particular fatal crash, the one on route 116 with Sunderland Road. Like where there was a northbound driver. There was a 3 car collision with a northbound driver who died on the scene and like there were 2 southbound drivers. I think that it probably happened like at the left. At that. Just before the. Just before the. Yeah. So the question that had come up and it's come up at the committee sometimes before. It's just like, I know that those crashes, they get reported in the state databases and things, but. I know this committee has had discussions just about like particular cases where there have been fatalities and just. You know, is there a way that the committee can be informed about them or like, look at those intersections. I mean, some of this has to do with, you know, what is the tax charge, which I know it's like still under review. But just I know go for that you've mentioned and. To that in some cases, right, even. Like it can be years before like the whole like investigation of an accident crash fatality, like is closed. But I didn't know, like, for example, when the crash reports. Happen, like when there are crashes and. And the reports are generated, like how who gets them at the town and like generally. Or is it all just sort of in like the state system or what happens. Like, you don't see it show up into the state system until it's been released. And then I release it until they're done with their investigation and what charges to file. If there's any charges. Right. Okay. And what's the timeframe for that usually take a while. But they can show up. They can show up in the state database for the crashes, like the online portal that Mastia T has like within like a month or 2. Yeah, but they're just recording it. Right. They're not telling about it or anything. Yeah. Yeah, it's just a. A summary and that's, that's all you, that's all you'll get.  The police hold them until they're ready to release them and then they release. Okay. So. And when the police release them depends on the investigation, what's going on. Sure. You may never, the police may never release this one. Because it's not a town road. Oh, okay. It's in it. It's in Amherst, but the accident happened on a state layout on the 116. Right. Yeah. Okay. Got it. But if you notice when you drive through the intersection now they've marked it for aerial survey. Okay. So they imagine that Val Lang has got something going on where he's going to look at the intersection and look at probably making some changes. And Val Lang is the intersection guy for district two. Yeah. The SDOT office in Northampton. Okay. Yeah. I think that's helpful. Yeah. So, so one thing I did because I had been, I had pulled like the state crash database. The one that's online for the last like 20 years, I looked at it to see how many crashes were recorded there. And there weren't that many, like compared to other parts of one, like compared to, for example, like Meadow Street or something, right? I think I only found like seven, even over that state database online. I'm not sure how complete it's, I mean, it's probably their best records, but it only had over the 20 year period only had, I think like seven or eight crashes. And most of them were like single vehicle crashes. Property damage only crashes. There was only like one or two that had like any kind of injury or potential injury reported. They all get reported on that database. Right. Yeah. No, but that's what I'm saying is like, if you look over 20 years, the fact that that particular intersection had only had like seven or eight crashes. Most of them are like single vehicle or property only crap. Like there's not a high, in terms of like which intersections have the most safety issues. It's not one of the highest, but that's not so like compared to say compared to Meadow Street or something like there's many other ones that are more. So just like for context of it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I guess. Yeah, I mean, I guess. So, I mean, just, you know, because like there was the one in like the North Amherst crash on Northeast Street and I don't know. I mean, so. I guess, and again, this could point to like the tax charge, like if there was ever, if the town ever reviewed some of them. Like does the town ever end up reviewing like crash like fatal crashes or serious injury crashes that have happened to say is there anything that we should do differently at the intersection or only do you do it. Like over a longer period of time or You know, There's think we review some, some are not reviewed. Some there's some circumstances that aren't even really in the report that come out and decide not to make any right. Okay. Um, so, you know, there were those two awful incidences on campus lately now use last year, last fall, spring, I don't know when it was they were in the spring. Yeah, in early spring, right, but though you said those aren't considered streets are though. How are those They're reported they're in the database. They are. Okay. They're not really, they're not really streets. Yeah, right. It's just an accident on UMass campus. That's how it's kind of, it's, they get the location but it's really not a, it's really not tied, like our accidents are to it because it's Because it's not a real street. It's a fictitious. Yeah, yeah. And it's not an Amherst, like a ton of Amherst. That's not Amherst Street. Right. Just curious. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Did you have any other questions that answered the questions you had? Yeah, yeah, it does. Yeah, it's unfortunate we can't really get the information because it was a pretty bad accident.  I mean, it's 50 or unquote, meaning, you know, people always don't do that. But, and especially, I don't know, like I've driven through there many times and just having a turn lane with no warnings. It seems very just, just, I don't know, very vulnerable to people just sitting in that lane with 50 miles an hour, you know, a few feet away. So I was never a huge fan of that turn, particularly in our passing people, but I don't know if we got more information other than, you know, knowing an accident happened to which we all know that would be useful. It's not really up to us, unfortunately. No, I agree. Well, and I think too, like, if I'm right, what Guilford was saying is that the districtry Massey a T that they're looking at, like, he can write he's already in, they're already indicating, at least, you know, in terms of marking it up and stuff that they're going to be making some changes there anyway so Yeah, I mean, if you drive through, you'll see the survey markers, there are, there's four corners, the four corners are marked and the intersection of the accident, which is still marked on the road is definitely in the middle of all the, what they're surveying. Okay, that's good that something's happening so it would be interesting to see what comes of it. Well, and I mean to Kim's questions about the UMass campus right the UMass has made a lot of improvements on Mass Ash. So, and in other sections to right like also Commonwealth have and things right they like the Gazette article said it was like $2.5 million of investment on pedestrian safety and things and it's great to see especially on Mass Ave. Because that's always been like one of the highest crash locations on campus, or at least like the last few decades or something. Well, at least where those those crashes and fatality occurred last year, and that was totally I mean you must shut down sidewalks for God's sake I mean that was really irresponsible of them.  So, sorry, but I think they're addressing other safety issues to different parts of the road but that road is still very like it's still not very safe for crossing and whatever but it's not a road so we can't do anything about it. I think now that I saw, like among the improvements I feel like they're making like, like speed tables and I mean there, there are improved things over the summer but I haven't gone I actually haven't I use that. Yeah, it's pretty huge. Actually, it was a little ironic to me at least because, because I work right on Mass Ave. And when they were in the process of making all those improvements. They actually had like close the sidewalk in the in the crosswalks like in the sections near the improvements. So, which was, I mean, you know, so they were like working on them and they were trying to get them done before the students were back and they were everything was reopened before the students were back so I'm glad to hear that. Yeah. Hopefully it will be safer but okay. We're flipping right through the meeting. Next item are the. Yes. We just had continuing items. I've just been leaving these on the agenda, but just this whole bicycle pedestrian priorities network map I just didn't want to lose sight of this just because it seems like as some of these conversations are happening with the council about, you know, sidewalk improvements or even with street lights or things like that about like having having identified like where the priority pedestrian priorities are. I'll go for do you didn't have any updates on it right so I think we're going to have to see if you know, I know that. Can we just need a student somebody to finish it off like do the one Ali has Ali has started like she's doing the double program that I think it's the same program that Tate's doing. At least she's a she's a full time grad student again. But hopefully, my corner had contacted me a few times about it so. I have to wait a little bit. Yeah. Well, I mean the problem I see with waiting is that the streets are changing and the priorities are changing right because Wildwood is no longer going to be a school and we need to add more. More notice to where the new mega school is going to be so I don't know, we have to pay more attention and probably put more more priority down there now so. The less relevant it becomes right. The mega school override going to pass. I don't know. That's not up to us right. I hope it's up to the poor voters on here. That's true. I'm voting for it. Right now there's I mean there's talk going on about what to do wild for river because they're moving everything over there. The town manager has information for starting a peer review of what the was proposed. There's a lot of people who in the past have been really opposed to what was proposed by the. By the consultant for the school so. Are you talking about at Fort River or at Wild River. Oh for the building itself. No for the traffic. Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, that's going to be a tough one as far as like, yeah, especially the mornings are so crazy. Yeah, no, I mean, I would hope that if. If the town becomes like more active in the safe Francisco program, I hope the town would be eligible for some of those like bigger funds. Because they haven't sent money over to Fort River yet. Also comes also comes down to priorities. Are you going to take the take parts of the street common to make it roadway and take down trees to make it roadway to accommodate the recommendations from the consultant for the school so. The last time we last time we did some work in that area we took a little bit of the street common and you thought we had chopped somebody up and left and buried or laying out on the common. So, but that was 10 years ago so maybe it's a little different now. So, um, Well, the Easter Common. So it's the Easter Common is that strip of land between that like secondary road and what is it doesn't, what does it get used for. I mean it's just a, isn't it mainly a buffer. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know like the historic context of it and, but, but there's isn't there going to be like affordable housing. Like across the street from Fort River to as well as affordable housing on Belcher town road and I mean, even without changing Fort River like there's other changes in that neighborhood in that area too. And then the new the new housing that's on that street I mean wouldn't like across from Fort River wouldn't it actually need to have when you maybe need to make some like road improvements over on that side too. Like isn't that like a one way street or It is a one way. I mean so you need to make some change like there need to be changes for that too. Howard why are you saying we have to wait. Are you saying we have to wait because of the Fort River thing or. Oh no, I just need a person who frees up. I got two interns working right now and one's working on a project that's going to go probably until December. Okay. I have another person working on a project which is actually the route route nine Belcher town road design and when they finish that up, they could possibly work on it. Right. Okay. What can we do for you to divert that person's time toward it like can we bake you. I'm not going to do it. You're not going to do it. No. Well I guess are your interns continuing after the fall. After they finished up their other thing. Yes, I mean. One project is to redo Belcher town road all the way from southeast street to the town line. Which is something people have been pushing out on a great deal and actually would help with the Fort River school. So that's what that project has been languishing and this person's working on that pretty much all the time. And the project is required by DEP and if we don't do it by the end of the year, we get a $24,000 fine every day we don't do it. So, Oh, absolutely. I mean, and this is, and this, I mean, the thing with the map is that it's, I mean, the reason we want to have the reason I've wanted to have the map done is right just so that we have it like it was part of the bicycle pedestrian plan. It would be nice to. And it was like one of the kind of main products of the plan in terms of moving forward and saying, you know, as you look at the capital improvements next year or other things like to point be able to have the council look at that plan if they support that if they support that map and then point to and say like these are the identified priority bike quarters these identified pedestrian quarters I mean to Kim's point like they will change. But just to have it like on record with a clean map that can be shared and distributed and things, because actually like I was on the town website and I don't know I typed in bike routes or something it showed like some really old map from the public section by committee that I think is like back at least like 1015 years old or something and that's the only thing that came up so it's, it's helping to have a new map I understand the, the actual like active construction projects and things that we need to get those done. And we had, and we had talked about it back I think it was actually in 2021. Like we had the, like six meetings or something where we went through the map like in detail so I just not so lose all that. I just keep that alive. That's all. So that's why I had put it back on the agenda, but that's one of the things we've talked about before is there's really no support staff support. No, yeah, do little things there's staff support for the meetings and bring in right now I understand staff support and we keep saying you know that's something right. I don't know if there's to bring up is there. You're saying some, some people could be helpful by making the case to our town council that perhaps we could have some additional staffing in DPW to be able to help with these projects that those of us on this call think are important. Yeah. Or other projects to right. We said this for a while I mean the charge the charges the other thing is get the charge. Absolutely. Yeah, and get staff that can help support it. I agree. It's in progress. I mean I haven't heard anything from the town manager lately about the charge have you go for. No, we're all talking zero waste. You're saying charge or charge. No, the charge, like basically the what is the under the purview of the tack. Like, because there's been talk about like making in terms of making the tack more effective or whatever. Having a description of what the tack is responsible for that actually reflects what the tack is doing can do should do. Things like that to update it because the old one is back from when there was a select board and not a, and not a council. That's all. Thank you. And I know that I mean the I know that the new charge will go to TSO at some point for review and then go to the council for review so. That's another one of the ongoing items so hopefully we can move it along at some point. And just in that vein I mean the reason I put this continuing item this north pleasant street north of Eastman Lane on just on as a continuing item to myself and I mean this is a section of roadway. I know that DPW drew it out and cat like in terms of the design. It doesn't have any funding to do it. It seems with some of the other projects that it probably not the highest priority right now, either. But just because we had done the site. Because we had done this to different site visits to it and and I just wanted to make sure that we sort of something like summarize it right it up and get it get something at least on the record is like that back in. Again, I think by now it's like 2021 attack reviewed it and this is what we recommended at that time. And just to like kind of put it to bed for now until it comes up again. But I mean maybe some of that maybe that some of that stuff could be incorporated into UMass transportation improvements and things I don't know so. Feel free to how far along is that north pleasant street between Eastman Lane and pine. Council's seen it and the council's given theoretical approval to it so. Yeah, starting to move along little pieces of it. So this is one of those things that could potentially be on the CDBG list of things that could be paid for with CDBG money. Parts of this but yeah. Yes. Yeah, because it includes like lower income residents. Yeah, and some of those complex looking for projects to put on that list right now. Definitely, it could, it could use some. I could use sidewalk improvements on I mean so the larger project. You know it has a widened sidewalk on both sides and I think and it has it like switching like the bike route switching across the street. And some sections of the sidewalk are very narrow and they're overgrown and the lighting is poor. Yeah, I remember seeing the plan. Yeah, I think that's a great project so. And that's a really high I mean what I know on our site visits like when the students were getting off the bus, you know after school, the UMass students is that there are places where there's a big gap in terms of how far you go in between the sidewalks so they're crossing the street, but then you also see them walking along these like narrow sections that really it's like a huge footpath without much of a sidewalk but that's just where they all go. So one thing with CDBG project is you have a certain amount of money to spend, and you have a certain amount of time to spend it in. And it's usually not enough to finish a project. It's usually enough to do part of a project so in this case, you know, we may have as much as a million dollars but it's divided among three projects. Sure. You've got 200, you know, $300,000 so I don't know how much of that project could be done for $300,000. Yeah. So now also I mean the times we visited the north, is it north of part, whatever the north village, north village wasn't but now north village is being recreated right so when we were, it was, it was all closed off and or under construction but now students are starting So they were saying right the north village, the new north village, whatever I figure what it's called but it's still under, it's family, it's grad student family housing. But it's also, it's low income too usually yeah. And that there were some units available for occupancy this fall but that it's also, they're still building it out like the rest of it. So anybody who lives there is in the middle of like the construction. I mean I mean I know for sure. Yeah. When we were looking at it, it wasn't that one. No, absolutely. More families and small people. Absolutely. And also it is low income housing. I was going to ask if that would have a bearing on applying for a grant because that whole complex will be reopened I would imagine by next year. Yes. Well you have to show with the CDBG project that it's serving low income people. Right. That's, that's what makes this appealing to me that. Yeah, I think that would be easy to show. But I don't know how Guilford feels about that and whether it's worth it to do a small portion of this project with that, you know, kind of money couple a few hundred thousand. I have no preference. I know there are people in town hall who do have preference about doing using using CDBG money or any town money right now in this area. So. They have preference against it or preference for it. A little bit against it, I'd say. They see other things that are more important for the general population. Okay. That's my, that's my feeling. Yeah. I would like to know. Is this something we're going to be talking about in the next few months anyway. So, yeah, I mean CDBG, the committee is already meeting. Like what's the timeframe with the CDBG grants, Chris? Well, the CDBG committee is meeting, but they mostly talk about social service projects. Capital projects are initiated by town staff. And then they make it into like the capital improvement. Then make it into a CDBG grant application. If you have plans that are already developed, it helps you to get the money. Like we used CDBG money for Mill Lane, right? Guilford. You did. Yeah. So that's an example and also East Hadley Road. Right. Those were done kind of piecemeal little chunks of it. And that, and that second section of. The section of Mill Lane, you're saying from. One 16 to the park, right? And that's CDBG too. Yeah. Okay. Nice. Yeah. I mean, that's such a nice connection there. So. It was over. It was a three year project. So they use three sets of CDG money. Yep. So did it have to go through? Did it have to go through CBDG each year? No. Yeah. Yeah. Money is subsequently. Each year. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. But it's really just going through town staff and town staff decides. What do you want to spend money on? And then we get all to agree. Sure. We put it into the application. It doesn't have to go through the committee. Is it possible that that's how this would be approached? Like if this were CBDG. This year. And it's only 300. Okay. Would the town. Essentially continue to do another 300 K for the next three years to. Complete the project or I don't even know how much it costs. Yeah. So I'll have to talk to Dave and other people in the planning department. And see how. How this ranks against other things that they've got going on.  You know, because you were thinking about the transportation. The Fort River. Like you could use. Couldn't use CDBG money for some of us like those, like if you were going to do some transportation improvements or infrastructure improvements. Over there a little. A target area. But it's. No. Anyway. Okay. Thank you for my, like, suggesting that. As long. To be continued. Okay. Next item was just to. Sorry. The next item was just to go look at the tack meeting agenda. I mean, the future meeting dates and potential agenda items. So Guilford. So I had originally want thought that we would have the meeting on the 15th, but I don't really want to have it against the block party. And so September 22nd, I think that would be great. Okay. Thank you. That would be awesome. September 22nd. Is that what we just said? Yeah. So it's our 22nd and Jason will be here. Alrighty. Guilford, which will be great. And then if we just just working out on the calendar, like October 6th and then October 20th. I did talk to, there were a few guest speakers I wanted to invite. Midi Dom had put me in touch with. The Western. Western mass rail coalition people. Like the Western mass rail project is moving forward. And I did bring it up over at an earlier attack meeting about whether we want to have them come and speak to us or not. So I did talk to somebody from them who's working with them and he said he could come on October 20th. So that could be an item. Instead of some of these, you know, repeating the same items over on our agenda. So. We kind of get to hear what's going on with that project. And then I also have been in touch with valley bikes. And they're out. Each person just got back to me today. And I. I was encouraged. She said she was available to come on September 26. I told her the dates for her meeting. So I don't know whether she meant to say September 22nd or October 6th. So I just need to clarify from her, but we'll also have her come to one of our future meetings. Because. What about. Go ahead. What about a PV project? We used to have the PVTA. Yeah. Rep here. And, you know, we, that was all disrupted during COVID and things were all, but I'd be really interested in seeing how riders. Doing these days. The things they're thinking about. Right. So we have had the Amherst. Rep to the PVTA come to our meetings, but we could also have the PVTA. Come to our meetings. But we could also see if anybody from UMass transit wants to come. To. I mean, if we want to. I'm just interested in how. Yeah, for sure. Roots. Or if they're cutting, I've heard they might be cutting back some things. I'm just curious, like. Yeah. What that's looking like. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's a good item. Like we used to get like, you know, every pretty much every season, it seemed like we had, like every few months we had that. Yeah. I think we've been inviting him. Oh, okay. We've been invited Doug Slaughter. Who's the rep. Like at least, you know, once a year or once every. For something. A long time ago. And now by him. Glenn and Al are retired. Actually they're hiring. You must transit. They're hiring for a new. So Glenn was a UMass person. Yeah. He was. He was the head. Of the operations after Al by him. And he was assistant before that. No, those are, those are good ideas. Other potential stuff for the agenda. Other potential stuff. Is we should probably have just to do it like once a year to have an election. If anybody wants to. If anybody wants to, you know, be a co-chair, right? Assistant chair or anything. And we can keep the status quo, but just offering it up. And the other thing I would like to do is, you know, to the council. I mean, to the tech is just a discussion about Lincoln Avenue parking. So the public hearing did get put off until mid October, as I mentioned earlier. So one thing that's come up with people in the neighborhood is about. What, so what we had recommended is we had. Supported with the DPW had recommended previously about restricting. Parking on. On one side of the street, banning parking on one side of the street. All the time. And then. On the other side of the street. From. Like the eight to five. So one thing that's come up with people in the neighborhood is about. What, so what we had recommended is we had supported what the DPW had recommended previously about restricting. On the other side of the street. And then. You know, from like the eight to five, which is the standard. Where a lot of the neighborhoods around the campus, including the ones. You know, north of Eastman lane and things, they have those restrictions. And doing it on Lincoln. And then we also, because in terms of like spillover demand. So already like the residents of Lincoln have been talking about. So now that the UMass.  Right. If you look there last week, there was almost nobody on street. And now it's. Wall to wall. So they had asked. So one thing we had done with the spillover is currently on sunset. We had recommended that it be on one side. East of, I mean, south of Elm street, that there's actually no restrictions on parking on either side of the road. We had recommended it be on one side. That it be banned on one side. Just it didn't seem like it was necessary to have parking on both sides there. But some people on Sunset and on Lincoln are. Have been asking about maybe potentially. If there should be a recommendation to restrict parking on the other side of the road. That if the parking is restricted on Lincoln, that people will just move over to sunset because it's so close. So. I don't know. We could put this on attack. Agenda item before the public hearing to see if we wanted to make any additional comments and I can circulate stuff back. So just for food for thought. Yeah. And did anybody else have any other, you know, items that they want to put on future agendas? Yeah. Can we talk at some point again about. East pleasant street. We had talked about. Extending the sidewalk. Yeah. Where it ends now at Olympic entrance to Olympic Village and Olympic Park. And I believe wasn't. Guilford wasn't there going to be some sort of a study done about. That corridor or am I remembering that correctly? Yeah. We had a survey or come in and survey, and then we have the draft survey in the office now, and we just going through it. Okay. So Gilbert, could we like get an update from you at like one of our meetings in October or something? Do you think it would be ready. Sure. Sure. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Actually, if you want Jason to tell you where it is, you can ask him. I don't know. That would be only existing conditions, right? Existing. Yeah. We haven't, we haven't gone through and verified. They got everything we need. They need to get in the survey. So that's where it is. Okay. Thank you. Do we, do we ever want to bring back again the. Possible reconfiguration of traffic around the South Amherst common. Is there really good. Yeah. Great. I mean, those were on our lists. So this is the thing is, I think part of this has to do with like the tech charge and how. I mean, like I've shared right, we had written something up and said like, these are our priority projects, but since we're an advisory committee. I mean, or should we be telling, should we be telling the council like these are the tax priorities or like, how do we, how do we relate to it? So it seems like that the TSO is just reactionary. And where more like, you know, looking at things and planning planning. Well, and one thing that's in our current charge that has been talked about for like, if the charge is revised, but it does say that we can advise, you know, as part of the capital improvement plan, like that comes out every year in terms of like recommended. Future investments and things, right? And we've identified, you know, the five, six projects. We did that last year. You know, we did that when this new council came in, like in December and we talked about it. And we can do that again in the fall and we can say, continue to say like these are our list of projects. That we can do additional consideration. What the town came up with for that South Amherst area looked really logical and it's already been. There are plans that are drafted and so forth. But it seems like something that if we could proceed with that. Sure. That would be good. Yeah. Maybe, maybe a meeting in that neighborhood to. Talk about the possible plans with the neighbors there. And that might be a good thing also to bring up with those counselors too. But also, I think, I think we, for, if I, I might be mistaken, but I think we were looking for more like data that we ended up. That ended up not being collected because of the pandemic and the changes to traffic pattern. So now that we're back to it, you know, those things could. Right. It seemed like that was the next step was looking at the traffic pattern. Something about that. I forget exactly. You're right. I forgot about that. There was to be some sort of a traffic study. And that was a few years ago because I mean, I've been come, I've been coming to the tech meeting since like 2019 and it was never discussed. Like you, the inventory was earlier, I guess. I think that's a great, that's a great thing to bring up again. Yeah, it was all set to go and then the pandemic. Oh, got it. How would you go about getting that work paid for. If you wanted to redo that, those roadways there, like, I'm thinking the things that I know about CDBG money and, you know, mass works money, those would not be available. But are there other pots of money that would be available to do that kind of work? Always money. It's just who. Priorities, right? Yeah. Is that something that would come out of like chapter 90 money or. It might, but South Amherst might. It might not be considered that important because it was repaved like six years ago and it's the roads are actually in pretty really good shape. So people may not want to make the changes now.  That helps, I think. Yes, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. But also the, the, the North Amherst, right? Like that all messed that whole mess that those intersections there. Yeah. Donna. Yeah. They're going to be pushing for that one. So actually, they're going to be pushing for that one. Yeah. I mean, you've told me she wouldn't be at our meeting today because they had a North Amherst meeting that they've been meeting weekly and North Amherst planning meeting and they're talking about transportation. So, supposedly Mr. Talking about the intersections. Okay. Good. At their meeting. Okay. Yeah. So we can revisit some of that too. Yeah. That's good. And also, I guess. So one other project for South Amherst is just the Palmore village. So Guilford at our last time this came up as you had mentioned that it was going out to bid. For the work, but that construction would probably start in 2023, right? There wouldn't be anything this fall likely. Yes. Is that right? Okay. I thought I saw something. Okay. We got bids and we got bids and. The contractor is going to probably be Caracas. That's the contractor working over nine. Okay. We're about 400 grand. Well, actually we're about five and a half million. No. 550,000 over is what we are. That's what we are. Wait, and how big was the grant? The grant wasn't that. The grant was one, one and a half million. Oh, that's not good. Okay. So we'll, we'll work it out and we'll get started. It's probably some drainage work. We've probably done this year, but we're not going to probably start doing the bulk of the work until next construction season. Because of the supply issues. Okay. And so wait, you said they're also working on route nine. Where are they working on route nine now? This is the contractor doing the route nine project. The route nine, you're saying the one. Okay. I thought I saw something in the paper about the, you know, just north of the, that intersection, the bridge that you can't cross over the sidewalk anymore in there. Is that getting, I thought I saw that was getting fixed. Yep. The bridge. They made the bridge. The bridge was constructed. Last middle of last month. And they deformed it. The first, just a couple of weeks ago. It'll probably be delivered sometime in October. It goes to the. Conservation commission on the 14th or 15th. For their blessing. And that's it. Wait. So the, the bridge you're talking about is that's the one near graph park. This is the pedestrian bridge by. Pomeroy and 116. That now has like the, the. Concrete. Oh, that little thing. Oh. Yeah. It has the vehicle launching device in front of it.  Right. Cool. But the sidewalks, there are so bad. I was just running through there on, on some Wednesday. No, it's. Yeah, I think we're wrapping up right so we're pretty. But those sidewalks could really use like it's such a nice it was just continue things so nicely because those sidewalks are just so awful right there. And it's good that that project is getting done that. The power village on the project and now and that it but you know it's like it's like this ugly place right between those two, the school and. And so one question I was wondering is with the other did some of the new the five sets of RFBs the rapid rectangular flashing beacons that got ordered did some of them get installed. No, not yet. So like pine street has to I didn't realize pine tree has to like they have one low, like down near you mass or down near 63. And there's one and upper one. Is that right? Like near Cushman. There's one at Cushman. There's one pine street. It seemed like there were some in North Amherst that I had never really noticed before like on Cush near Cushman. I actually think three sets on pine street. I guess I don't know where pine street ends. There's one like going towards the tracks but then on the lower part of pine street. There's two on the UMass and one. Yeah, okay. So I was like, wow. And is there. So there's, is there like a list somewhere. I mean, we don't have that many of them in town yet. There isn't like a kind of running list of like when those get put in or something. So, you know, if in like, No, when the RFBs or something like, you know, five or 10 years, we could say where are those RFBs and camera in Amherst or anything, you know, anyway. Well, there's a list of where they are. Okay. There's a maintenance list. Got it. Okay. So it looks like we're coming to the end of coming to the end and we're great. That's great. It's kind of the back of your, yeah. Move to during the sounds good. Oh, and I didn't want to say, I mean, Stefan is here. But he got a new job.  Sure, thank you. Yeah. Like I mentioned Tracy, I only emailed her last night about this late last night. So I wasn't like keeping a secret from anyone. But I was very busy and I only started at about 10 days ago, the previous Monday, but I am currently the district legislative aid for state Senator Eric Lesser in his office. I actually that's why I was joined from my phone today because I was actually coming back from the state house and I'm there about twice. Yeah. And, and otherwise I'm working the Hampton Hampshire first Hampton Hampshire district here so with that being said I am still living in Amherst and I don't continue to live in Amherst. This rule is only until January, very early January, January 4 is when the other centers get. So unfortunately right like so Eric Lesser when he was running for Lieutenant Governor he didn't also keep run to keep his seat and so. But he's good for Western Mass and transportation and stuff. Hopefully, it's great you get to do that work. Yeah. It's good. The last thing I want to ask really quick before we adjourn and I don't know if this is mentioned. I'm especially I don't know, I think you'll first though here if he is but is are there any updates regarding the roundabout here at Pomeroy and West Street 116 year the Speedway gas station any. We were just talking about that. It's went out. It sounds like they have a contractor who's going to do the work it's mainly going to start in the next construction season. And it's over budget. As everything is these days. Yeah, so. So what is that spring 2023. More than likely. Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay, good. That's all I want. And there's like a timeframe to right go for it in terms of that projects is that I don't know if the state or whoever wasn't at mass development funds or whoever if it's being extended but. There's a there's a there's a timeframe to spend $1.5 million. Okay, I think we'll hit that easily. Unfortunately, right. Then we'll finish the project after yes. Okay, got it. Great. Now that will be a huge improvement there. All right. All right, thank you. Thank you all. Thank you, everybody. Chris and go for it. Thank you. Yay. Thank you very much. Bye.


Right, in today's video, I'm going to introduce you to three, maybe four clubs that are going to help solve a huge problem that you might have with your game right now. It's not bad. It's not bad. It's not bad.  You've got a razor sharp, short game. That wasn't easy to say, was it? That's very kind. But you have, it's a real standout part of what differs real good players, professionals in this case, from average golfers. What I want you to do in today's video is explain to me and our audience the technique that you use, which really does simplify the chip-in process. Is that fair to say? Yeah, yeah. That's the number one. Everyone always says, you make that look easy. You make it look simple. And that's what we're going to try and do. And he does it in a very different way than I expected. So what we're going to have a look at today is chip-in. So you hear a lot of different things about putting the ball position back, weight forward, club here, hinge here. I think what we want to try and do today is just look at one simple technique or method that clarifies everything and makes it really simple and easy around the greens. So first scenario, 15-20 yards worth of fairway, flag another 20 yards further on. Yep. You handed me a 60 degree wedge and you said step one is very much about ball position. Yeah. So really simple shot. Yeah. You wouldn't take out 60 in this. No, maybe not. I don't think many people would, would they? But I want to really emphasise how simple we're trying to make it. So step one, ball position. Dead easy. Why would we change it? Club wants to be used in a certain manner. Got bounce, like all the other irons. Let's just keep it in the middle. Weight distribution, 50-50. And just use it as the club's design to be used. So naturally, in this position, my mentality would be, and perhaps position this further back in my stance, because of the type of shot and the loft that I've got. Yeah, exactly. What you're seeing is don't do that. That's what we run into all the time, is, you know, there's a lot of information out there, but let's simplify it. Let's get it in the middle. If we move it back, it creates variables. We reduce the bounce. And just, you know, on a flat surface, you know what that's going to do. It's going to make the ball go a little bit lower. But in terms of all we're looking at is consistent strike. Let's make it nice and easy. Let's keep it the same as what we do with all our other irons. So step one. Yeah. Ball always in the middle of a stance. Yeah, absolutely. Right, so step one, you talked about being centre of stance, but now step two, you're talking about widening that stance or potentially widening that stance. Yeah, widening or narrowing. Yeah. I think a lot of people ask me what the body should be doing, you know, when we're chipping, pitching, and to simplify it really, a great way of controlling the distance is as we move closer to the hole, we're just going to narrow the stance. As we get further away, we're just going to widen them. And really simply is the wider the stance, the more the hips and the shoulders are going to want to rotate. The narrower you are, the less they're going to want to rotate. And that really is it. So rotation is, you know, it's a form of power. And obviously when we're round here, I see a lot of people hitting it too hard or let's say struggling with distance control. So a really good way of simplifying that is as we get closer, narrow up. So where we're at right now again, not too dissimilar, a shorter shot than we had previously, again, it's about almost a feet together. But still that same principle, even with feet together, that ball is dead centre of the stance though. Exactly, yeah, absolutely. So whether it's wide or really where your feet are really, really close, ball in the centre. Right, so we've got two steps there. Ultimately, ball in the middle of the stance, no matter what the situation, and the either narrowing or widening of your stance, depending on the distance you are from the shot, from the flag that you're trying to execute. We now need stage three, Lou, because we've got hit a ball. Right, so okay, so for stage three, Lou, we're looking at going a little bit further away from the flag. Yeah. And we've got two different scenarios we've set up. Situation number one is we've got a little bit of a grass mound in front of us. So an obstacle in the way, if you like, we're going to need a bit of height in the chip shot. And then where we're stood right now, there's nothing between us and the flag, but a little bit more distance. So now we'll look at exactly the same principles, but maybe a change of club. Exactly, yes. When we're talking about it, the ball position is going to stay consistent. Judging distance, so how far away we're going to sort of rotate a little bit differently. So width of the stance is going to help that. This third one really is, the club is going to dictate what we're going to do. Simplifying it, I would highly recommend going for an eight iron, a nine iron. Keeping it nice and simple. In this position we're at now. Exactly, yeah. So there's nothing in the way, simplifying it is that the club's going to help you. There's less loft, it's going to create more power. So the club's going to have to move shorter, shorter distance. It's going to be a more consistent strike. So that's really it. So all of the stuff we've spoken about is going to change, isn't it? So we've got the, I think we've got a nine iron there, haven't we? So the nine iron, so you've got more loft, less loft on this. So you can go really quite narrow in the stance, can't you? So ball's in the middle there. And then here really, the club, if you grab a little bit there mate, perfect. The club really doesn't have to move too much. There doesn't have to be any hinge, any variables, that's it. So it's just a simple rock. And this really is a simple method. Throw in the other stance. Ball position in the middle. Should be a nice, clean, consistent shot. There we go. So there's not a lot that can go wrong with that, is there? No, and just some feedback from me, just executing the shot. And I must admit, if I'm honest with you, this is not how I play my chip shots currently. But I found it to be in a very easy position in the centre. And it was a very simplistic method. A lot of people find this difference but easier. Well, that's exactly why we're doing it. So we'll now go on to position, what I call it, A, with, what have you got in the hand there? Yes, I've got lobbed again. So you think I'm making it more difficult, but we're going to find out. And then we're going to see what we need to do just to perhaps extend that stroke change of club to get ourselves with a bit of loft and height over the grass mound, is that correct? Yeah, same method. Right, OK Lou, so grass mound, same distance from flag. I've got ball position and I've got a 60 degree wedge. It's going to be to the 9 iron, but that's got to change, has it? Yeah, absolutely. So ball position is going to stay the same. But you know that you've got 60. Perfect. So you need a little bit more rotation. That's it. So ideally if the mound's not there, we'll stick with this one. The mound is, we need a bit of height. So we've changed the club. But same method, we're just applying you a little bit differently. And if you'll notice that the lesson's gone on, I'm sort of grasping this now. If the mound is easy, I want people to try this. It's going to save a lot of people a lot of shots and really clarify a lot of things. Well, again, so if I get right in my head if I get this out properly, the more loft, widen the stance a bit, the longer the swing becomes, traveling the sort of greater distance. Less of loft, you can narrow it. Same distance, shorter swing. That's it. You want the swing nice and short. But sometimes that doesn't always apply. So I'm just giving you the tools there to widen up. Keep the consistency. Shall I try this? Let's do it. So what would be your feedback on that? Well, simple. Simple. I think that's the greatest thing about the lesson. I've learned something already. But I think what you notice from the shots, again, is that the changing club, the changing loft effectively, totally different ball flight, totally different length of swing, and everything that you suggested we pop the ball up there then with the loft, to go for a longer swing. The ball position in the middle of the stance was the big game changer for me, and meant that I got a little bit more consistent strike. Is that correct? That's exactly it. We're just trying to take out the variables, keep it nice and simple, and then hopefully that will transfer into more consistent shots. Well, I think at the beginning of the video I said that if you're struggling with your chipping game or a simplistic method, there are obviously many different ways in which we can progress all of this, but I think what's nice about that is all of those things, remember those three steps that we went through, that's all you've got to consider each time you find yourself in and around the green, and hopefully it just means that you just get a little bit more consistent. Ultimately, don't drop shots where we often quite find that we do. We've got the ball all the way from teeter green, and then we mess it all up when we're sort of 20, 30 yards away. That's it, yeah, and that's because a lot of people try and do something different around the greens, and try and keep it the same. We can transfer that in and around the greens. Right. Thank you for watching. Thanks to Lewis for today's lesson. Don't forget, comment down below with feedback. Go out and try it for yourself, and then maybe come back to the video, and also drop us a comment as well. Hit that like and subscribe if you don't already, all them things, and we will both see you very, very soon. 15, 20. Are you going to propose? I'll go down on two of these. I'll start again.


Why do you think this team has not been able to put it together consistently? There's a lot of variables, a lot of factors that go into it. I mean, we just haven't showed up every night. We'll have spurts of it, but this game, these seasons, this uniform isn't about spurts, it's about showing up every night. So we just got to pick it up. Why do you think guys aren't showing up? Is it a preparation thing? Is it a motivation thing? Can you explain what you mean by that? We're just collectively as a group not performing the way we should. The way we envisioned our off-season prep, our day-to-day prep, we're doing the work, we just got to alter some things, make some adjustments, and be able to put it out there on the field. Do you think this group can do that? Erin Boone kind of just made the comment. Talk is cheap, we have to go out and do it. Do you think this team is capable? Yeah, absolutely. We have in the past. We've shown plenty that we're capable of doing it. And yeah, at this point, it's whatever, bring talk, come back to the drawing board, do this, do that. It doesn't really matter anything that I say right now. It's just we got to go do it, and words aren't going to do anything. Dave Lennon, please unmute. Hey, Giancarlo. The manager, Aaron Boone, has always been pretty positive with you guys, and really talks about the faith he has in you guys about turning this around. Is there any part of it that I know it's a very personal game for you guys, but do you feel like he's getting hung out a little bit just because he's the manager and people tend to pin the blame on the manager when things aren't going well? Yeah, I mean, there's always one to point the finger at, whether deserving or not, and we're the ones performing. So you can't put that on him. We're the ones that go up and have the opportunity to spin that around. I don't think it's fair to put that blame on him.