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I'll probably make you guys check out some other shows at the end of this, too, because... Whoa, that sounds threatening. Go check it out, knife, knife, knife. I'll make you do it. I'll make you do it. And finally, hello. This is I Have Notes, a show where a bunch of people come together with an unusually large amount of IMDB credits, and we talk about anything creative, animation, also nerdy stuff, as we want to do, and also have very strong opinions about chips. I am your host, Issa Badiola. My co-host today is here with me. It's Noel Wiggins. It's me, Noel Wiggins. I never know what to say whenever this happens. Issa, do I introduce everyone else? Yeah, do it. You do it. Okay. Don't worry about me. Don't worry about me. We got some people in the house today. Let's go to our first guest. It is the best in the world, Erin Nguyen. There's something on my arm. There's something on my arm. Hello. I'm back, and I have a friend. The star of the show has arrived, everybody. Yes. I don't know if you all can hear that, but I'm very happy with my son. And our very, very, very special guest with us today is the amazing Zoe's in the house. Very, very, very special. Wow. Look at that. But with prescription glasses. Blue light filtering, too. My friend, since I was four years old. It's funny because the lighting makes it look like it has a five o'clock shadow. So that seems like a college professor. Oh, the film. All right. 20 years of grime. All right. This guy. It seems like college professor Pikachu with the glasses on. I'm also trying to put my battery pack back inside his body. Erin, Erin, when you did the, when you put the shades over your Pikachu and then the cheeks lit up, it just looked like your Pikachu had demon eyes. I was like, if we don't see you again. She's still stuffing him. She's still going. I don't know why I can't get into the fit in right now. There we go. Would you say he's double stuffed? Sorry. Bring it back to Oreos. We were talking about Oreos. Yeah, I got him from a nice lady in the UK. And when he arrived, he was a little dirty, so he got a nice sponge bath. So I was like, this is Myers now. Was it never removed from box or was it removed from box? It was out of box. I didn't care too much about the box, even though it was, it did have like the glorious like 1999 fat Pikachu art on it. But the lady left a note saying, oh, I'm glad he's going to a good home. So cute. I'm tempted to leave a review on her eBay page and tell her that this is like a now world famous podcast. If she on Twitter, I'll send her the link so that she can watch her Pikachu in a new home, but on the internet. He's grown up. Oh, with the scary cheeks. He's getting some bad stuff. You don't want to hang around with that Pikachu. Only Aaron cut well. Duality of man, the duality of Pikachu. What else do you do? Not much. He just stays out of trouble. He stays out of trouble except for face. Since you were four, how were you again when you when you got that Pikachu? I guess I guess I was four. I'm 24 now.  I think it's the oldest stuffed animal I have. Not that I have many. It's wholesome. I have a shuckle though that I got at RTX when it was still in person and that's my pride and joy. Shuckle the mold Pokemon. Yeah, he looks like a turtle, but he's just the mold Pokemon. Oh, God, you're right. It's so gross. There's some really random Pokemon like the what is it? Wabafet is the standing Pokemon. Is it? He's called. I'm pretty sure I just remember distinctly the anime like Wabafet, the standing Pokemon. I don't remember this at all. I believe it though. Yeah. That was a really good Pokedex impression, by the way. I thought that was really good. Like that was. Thank you. I've been working on my voices. I'm trying to remember other weird weird Pokemon names. Those are the main two that I remember, the mold and the standing. And then there's like a whole slew of Pokemon. I just don't know anymore like chandelier. On a set of car keys. Oh yeah. A set of car keys? Wait, there's house keys? Yeah, there's a Pokemon. That's a Pokemon. That's a set of keys. I don't know what it's called, but somebody in the chat. Silly.  Is there also like a wallet and keys? Because like that's always seem to be like things that go together. The lost Pokemon. Exactly, right?  If it wasn't for the fact that they had the weird Pokemon at the end, I feel like you'd be talking about like horror movies. The standing. The mold. The mold. The wallets. The electric rat. They do sound like horror movies. The standing in particular. That really sounds like a good like Hitchcock horror film. Say no more. We're gonna pitch this. TM, TM, TM, quick. Should we rehash the Oreo debate? I'm really, I'm fixated on this. Okay. This, okay. So, Zo, you are on a podcast. I am on a podcast. It's called I Am Pulse. I'm on it right now. Oh, hey. That is long. You're true. You're not, you're not wrong.  Spoiler alert. There is no Mark and Brad. There's the lower third. We got it. Yeah, it's me and Kayla, who most people probably know at this point. I think she was on the show a couple of weeks ago. And Mariel, who everyone knows and loves.  There's a, there's an a whole like overarching. I just bumped my microphone so loud. I hope it's okay. There's a whole like overarching plot of Mark and Brad, who are the hosts of like 268 episodes of this show that got lost to the snowstorm of what, last month or something. They don't exist. They've never existed. There's no Mark. There's no Brad except for my uncle, Brad. He's not involved though. And basically, we just, we are people who worked around this podcast's office and Kayla had to pull us in last minute because Mark and Brad never showed up. And they never show up ever for the rest of the show. And we just hang out. That's kind of ingenious. Yeah. It's a brainchild of Kayla because she's a genius.  We had Lindsay in last week's episode. I think I'm allowed to say that we have Elise this coming episode. And it was so funny. They had to cut our laughter.  They had to edit it out because she was just so funny. And at one point, like halfway through, she goes, guys, I'm sorry, I think I'm making you laugh too much. Could we break character and we'll just go from there. And yes, please God, I can't say anything. You're too far. So I'll for that. It'll be good. Ooh, I think Tyler mentioned it's coming out tomorrow. Is it? Yes, it drops tomorrow, the third episode, I think. So that's exciting. That's a good sell. I'm in. Got one listener. You got me. But it's a it's a super fun show to do and hopefully listen to. And I hope everyone checks it out. Where can they catch it? Like like besides the website, can they catch it just on Spotify anywhere?  Yes. Yep. Anywhere you get podcasts, the RT site. I actually totally recommend the RT site. If you're down to just sit and vibe and listen to it because someone the guy who does the art for good morning from hell, I think does the same art for us.  It's phenomenal. So just to check that out. Go to the site. Yeah.  This I apparently came up also in No Dem Answers. It did. Apparently I have a very contentious stance on Oreos.  If you're looking for and I already said this, if you're looking for excess, you're looking for gluttony. You want the mega stuff Oreo. You want to get mega stuff not in any filthy way. No cream involved. Um, and if you want, and if that's all that preditated, never mind. The little DP went there. Sorry. So Zoe, are you saying that the irony is that double stuff is technically half assing it like you just got to go big or go home. And that's what you're saying. That's exactly. I think double stuff is not enough, which rhymes, which feels good. It feels like a good marketing. As opposed to double penetration, Aaron. And if you want, you know, just like balance harmonious Oreo, the regular Oreo is not. It's perfect. Chef's kiss. Oh my God. It's been it's been tested. It's been kid tested mother approved, even though that's a kicks thing, but it applies here. What is it? Noel and I also agreed on Zoe stands from what I remember. Yes, absolutely. Yes, like I'm in the boat of the standard Oreo is where it's at. But if you want to, if you want to spice it up, you want to kick it up a notch, go for the Oreo that is dipped in fudge. That's where that's where you just kind of want to just lose yourself to the music, maybe throw on some. I don't know what you listen to nowadays, kids is Skrillex still a thing? I don't know. But listen to Skrillex and then just eat the fudge dipped Oreos. That's the best right there. You sound like Ben Shapiro talking about WAP right now. I don't understand. How is this? Is it a condition? Is that what it is? Oh my God.  The best way to put it is my typical white guy voice is really my impression of Dave Chappelle doing his impression of Eddie Murphy's impression. Oh my God. So many layers. There's so many layers, but that's then it just kind of becomes my Ben Shapiro impression and I'm just not happy with any. Someone in chat just said there is a double mega stuffed Oreo apparently and now I'm feeling like that's just a sin. Oh you have to Google it, don't you? Have you all seen that one image of or I guess it's a meme of different Oreo compositions where it's like an Oreo with like two more pieces of cookie, I guess, and it's like Oreo.  Is that like a JoJo reference? I like that. I'm not seeing double mega stuff. I think, oh wait. No, it's, no, I'm not seeing double mega stuff. I think I've been lied to. I feel like that shouldn't be like physically possible. I feel like if you were to try and attempt that, you know when you get magnets and you just try to like put the little like matching ends together and it just, yeah, it just, the magnetism says no. The universe says no, exactly. I feel like if you were to do that, you would create a brand new atom if you were to actually achieve something like that. So it's very dangerous, very large hadron collider dangerous. So I hear. So the science says, you know, hey, I don't make the rules. This podcast is backed by science. And Oreos and Oreos. I just dropped the Oreo image into discord. Oh, sorry, the cream was is re re re re re re re re. Just two cookies is ooh and ooh. Okay, I'll ask all of you. Wow. Do has, have any of you ever done the thing that they tried to like market in those old school, like early 2000s, maybe even 90s commercials where the kids would actually open like you would actually open up the Oreo, lick the cream, then put it back together, then dunk it in milk. Too many steps, way too many steps, way too many. Can you take out the licking step? That seems kind of gross. I know it's like your own spit that you're eating. It's adhesive. Come on. I mean, in this day and age, it is, it is unbecoming. Oh, the most stuff. The most stuff. Are they missing an F? That's their brand. They always miss the F for some reason. Okay. So real talk, no offense, but look, look at that. That is unkept. Like, look, look, it's just, it's unkept. Unchained. I don't know what that is.  Look at that. Like the cookie, like the actual cookies off to the side. This is the most great. Those are the second Oreo. And then like, I can't tell if that's actual Oreo on the cream or if you just real talk dropped it on the floor and then you stuck to the like, I'm not eating that. That's a mess. I'm cultured. I'm sophisticated about the regular standard Oreo. Do you see how you have that layer, that little like lip or cookie that texts it? That is the ideal cookie anatomy right there. This is the second listen. Gluttony is the big one right there. Like, no, I'm not about that. I'm not about that. I'm a grown up at this point. I'm an adult.   Or I try to. I don't know how taxes work. I'd rather not, though. I feel like now we need to get every type of Oreo because there's also thin Oreos and just do a taste test. Not every type. That would be insane. What's a thin Oreo? Is that like a thin mix? I think it's a thin layer of cream. I think it's still cream. It's not even. Oh, is it a thin cookie? It's a cream. Oh my God. I don't know. I have to look at it. She's like, yeah. I heard typing Oreo.  Oh, everything's thin. Yeah. Oh, that looks wrong. That looks like communion wafers. Yeah. I would go to church. That's the best way to point at communion wafers. I'm not giving my money. Yeah, that's it. I go to church and this is the communion one. That would get me into a church. I want to know who asked for that. Like, who is the one that's like, this is too much. The standard too much. I want a thinner one. But then how many voices were loud enough to bring this to fruition? There's just a regular Oreo with the word guilt in the middle when equals Oreo thin.  That just looks wrong. That looks exactly like that. I wonder if they just like flattened it and it was actually like surface level like just even bigger rather than keeping tiny like the normal see. Yeah. See. Okay. But the thing is looking so the ruffles back. Okay. See now we're getting off topic a little bit. I'm wondering about these cookies. If this was created by like, were you ever like me where as a kid, sometimes I put cookies in my pocket.  I had cookies. And then now you have a little slightly thinner, slightly wider cookie. Maybe that's how it happened. Okay, this picture here just threw me off because my my brain snapped right to it. I saw the shapes and I snapped to it, which is the dumb, thick stuff, Oreo thick with two C's. Oh, hello. I'm going to blame going to blame Sam, our producer for this one.  No, well, immediately stop talking about cookies when he sees. Yeah, because I got distracted.  So before before you even continue on your life, your previous life and thought no, well, Aaron was shaking her head during your show, which I am it's safe to assume Aaron that you did not put cookies or anything.  Okay, Zoe, it's like pocket land and whatever else has been in your pocket. I mean, it's not bad. Zoe, did you put cookies in your pocket? No, but I did. I would eat candy and then because I didn't want anyone to know I would hide the wrappers in like couch cushions and stuff. That's the same energy. I think that's more acceptable. More acceptable, maybe a little less chaotic. Yeah. Yeah.  They're not like loose leaf cookies. They're not just kind of they're not just in the in the pocket. No, they're kind of like my mom would put the cookies in a bag. And sometimes, you know, okay, okay, that's okay. This is like a naked cookie. Yeah, like this was back in the early on. So I don't know about any of you.  So I had pocket with with volume. There's there's space. Not only could the could the bag of cookies can go in there, but sometimes maybe a trapper keeper. I don't you know, maybe, maybe one, I don't know, social studies book could fit in one of those pockets. I don't know. So it's possible. And again, you put it in your back pocket, you just you squish it's kind of like when you have a candy bar in your pocket. You had to have at least done that where you had a candy bar in the pocket and then smushed it on accident. Or is that just still me? Maybe it's me. Quiet. Very quiet. This room got very quiet. We have the unfortunate experience of having girl jeans with our infamous. No pocket. That's fair. That's fair.  Which that sounds like torture. Like who would do that? Who would create fake pockets? Men. I'm sorry. I apologize on the behalf of all of the men with the chromosomes that I have. And I don't know like a single girl who doesn't walk around needing like a chapstick or something. So why don't we at least have chapstick sized pockets? That's fair.   A what? Who has a pocket watch? A pocket watch. What is a pocket watch?  Unbelievable. I mean can you fit pocket watch pockets? Can you fit a chapstick in that pocket watch pocket?  I feel like it's the tall one too. This is a big boy. Not fit in the pocket watch pocket. That's not chapstick. That looks like one of those like push pops. That's what it looks like. Does anyone remember push pops? Oh push pop. That's what it looked like to me. Like it was it was that beefy. I was like either that's a push pop. That cannot be chapstick. Unfortunately I can't make a shank out of this. Push pops though.  So maybe they need to do that with chapstick. Which saves room for your pocket watch. But not for the chapstick. Just for the pocket watch. It's valuable real estate. I don't even know anyone who owns a pocket watch. Like I feel like the only people who own a pocket watch have to wait who does? Someone in chat just says that they have a pocket watch. Yeah there's two people. That someone's dad has a pocket watch. See that's what I figured pocket watches have to be air looms. They have to be handed down. I don't think any any normal person nowadays goes to the mall. Like where does one go to acquire a pocket watch if not handed down? I have an answer.  Yeah um I somewhat shout out to Kerry because he has one. I think you might have to just be a nerd because I went to a horror convention and there was like a steampunk vendor there and he also had pocket watches and I did actually buy one but I no longer have it so I'm excluding myself from the people who have pocket watches. So you say steampunk. I feel like anyone who who like enjoy steampunk they are obligated to have at least 500 gears moving gears on them at one time.  Um shout out. Kayla goes I have two. Kayla you got one. Two chapstick or two pocket watches. Two pocket watches. Two pocket watches. Yeah she has the full metal alchemist one too. And one that runs backwards.  Sorry sorry Kayla I love you with my entire heart. Except for the uh the double stuff situation. Except for the Oreo argument and pocket watches. Yeah um Tyler also just showed us that uh for nine dollars no well you could be a cool dude and nine dollars on Amazon. Is that is that real gold? Is that real gold? What do you think? Is that gold plated? Okay does it does it make a clicking sound like loud enough to be like perceivable by like can I annoy people with it? When I when I pull it out can I can I just bother people? Can you hypnotize someone by swinging? Yeah yeah by swinging. Those are the hard-hitting questions. For me I wear watches but I never actually use them for for time. Yeah I wear them just as like a little just as a little a little accessory right you know I'm saying like what do they say the the outfit makes the man but the accessory makes the outfit I believe how it goes so I kind of like I just wear watches just for that. Don't know how to set the watch correctly either so it's just there for as uh as just for accoutrements I think. I don't think that I even know how to accoutrements. Did you say accoutrements? Accoutrements. I don't think I even know how to read an analog watch anymore. Oh no. It takes me a quick second to snap to it especially when it gets close to the to the hour you know like when it gets to that other like half I'm always just like I really don't know is it 530 or is it 430? I'm not too sure but you know yeah like I just have a phone now like I have a cell phone it tells me the time why do I need an analog watch anymore except to be steampunk but it has to have 500 gears in the watch itself. That's pretty much my stance on it. There's one thing.  Oh thanks.  Yeah there's one that projects the time onto your ceiling. What?  That's all I need and then I've been having a lot of trouble getting out of bed lately like really like I'll get out of bed we usually start work I don't know about you guys in your departments but my department usually starts work around 10 a.m. I roll at about a 10 23 every day so I definitely need one of those alarm clocks that's like a drone that rolls around and screams at you a little helicopter thing. Have you heard about these? Yes. Yeah I need like six of them. Is this chasing you? It chases you and tells you the time? No it hides from you. Yeah it like rolls away so you have to get up to turn it off. Yeah. Yo that's terrifying. I do a similar thing. I put my phone might use my phone as my alarm so I'll put it like on the other side of my bedroom. Yeah. So I like have to get up to turn it off. I did that for about three days and it. Oh there it is. Oh it's so cute. It looks like a Wally robot.  Oh Wally.  Let me ask you this like I for me in time I'm terrible with math but I realize I am a savant genius the moment I wake up and I just look at a clock and I can tell you exactly how many minutes and seconds I have to sleep before I really have to wake up. Like again I'm terrible at time but if I look up I'm just like okay I got about another 23 minutes and 47 seconds and I can sleep for that long and then if I take a shower but then if I brush my teeth in the shower that'll give me an additional five minutes and 14 seconds. Like that's me whatever I'm just trying to sleep I become a mathematician almost like a brain man. Yeah I'm big brain. I'm big brain at that point. That's pretty good. 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No, it's any. Is it an every phone thing? Yeah, like an Ion battery.  Yeah, that's why I left this on like my charging pad just like overnight.  I do that all the time. Yeah, you might want to stop. If my phone's not at 100%, I don't want anything to do with it. It has to be at 100% so all the time. Okay. Cool. How about y'all? How's y'all weekend? I don't remember my weekend. I was about to say I have no record. Did we have the same wait? Did we hang out? I don't remember. I forget who said this once, but I might have been Elise or someone else, but I heard them say something like, if I, if you, oh, it's Barbara, I think it's like, oh, if you don't have it in your Google calendar, what you did over the weekend, then you kind of just forget this point. Yes. Yes. So yeah, I can believe that. If you guys don't remember. What I tend to do over the weekend is I usually, is it really a weekend if I spend Sunday all Sunday just dreading Monday? That's all I do on a Sunday is I think about, ah, I wish it were Saturday. Like that's all I do on Sunday. So I don't know. I think that's all I did on Sunday, but I don't know what I did on Saturday. I'm pretty sure it was probably saying, oh, tomorrow is Sunday. So I don't really remember. Oh, I baked bread. That's nice for the first time. And I only did it out of necessity. It was just, I don't, bread. I wait, necessity? Necessity. Yeah. I just ran out of bread. I don't want to go grocery shopping. So I just decided to make it. And it's fine. It's like fine bread. I've never made bread before. It's passable, right? It's passable. It's edible. It tastes pretty good. It's a little dense in case anyone was wondering about my bread. Other than that, it's fine. Nice. That was my whole weekend. What would you do different? Hmm. Use less flour?  So if I like to say that. You're asking after I said double penetration. Oh, we both watched a thing this weekend to get back on topic. Yeah. We watched a Chinese animation movie called The Legend of Hey. This one, it was available primarily because of the, ooh, I forget what it stands for, but it was like the New York International Children's Film Festival. That's what it stands for. They had a virtual, virtual premiere. So you could buy a one view ticket, essentially, or a viewing ticket and you'd have it for like the March 5th all the way to the 15th. Actually today. Oh until today. Yeah. So I might watch it again if I have time tonight. Nice. But yeah, they had available, it's English. It was the English cast dub. Which is all Asian, by the way. All Asian cast. Yeah. It's a really, really cute anime based off of an existing Chinese web series animated as well. It basically looks like this, one-to-one, but it follows the story, or almost like the origin story of Hey, which is this black cat character and he is a spirit living in the urban world. And it follows him kind of just, how do I describe his contentious, contentious relationship between being a spirit and hating humans and how there's just this other world in human urban life. Humans are the worst. Humans are the worst. Agreed. It's very much akin to like Miyazaki and like... Kind of like a Princess Mononoke. Yeah. In like spirit of the way and like urbanization and environmental things, I guess. It's so cute looking. It's cute and like so well animated. It's gorgeous. This is one of the most highly anticipated like movies to be localized from China. Or just from the East, like because it came out in 2019, I think. And it was only now that it's finally getting some airtime in the US. And so it's probably going to get some more releases down the line, especially if it's as popular as it is. But it's really good. Highly recommend. Oh my god. I try to get Kari to watch it because it has like some, I mean, I just like, it's like right up his alley. It reminds me a lot of crap. What's the, it's a boy and the beast. It kind of reminds me of that as well. Yes. Yeah.  And it's just, it's really good. Where do you watch it? Where can I watch it? It was the, what was it, Issa, New York. The New York International Children's Film Festival website. You can pay for a ticket, which is just the virtual viewing of it. And they actually have apps on Roku and things like that. So you can watch it through your smart TV. You can watch it on an internet browser, just on your phone. Yeah, just stuff like that. It's, they make it really easy. But yeah, it was pretty dope. I'm excited for the, for the spinoff sequel, The Legend of Heia, which is the story about Andre three stacks.  And he's from, he's from a different planet. If you follow typical outcast lore. Mike, can you just like move Noelle's window? Can you just spin him? Just make him upside down. Put him in time out. Just time out. I was, I was letting that, that was cooking in the brain the whole time. He's talking, he's talking. I was like, how do I work this into an outcast? Someone in chat said, boy in the beast like, yeah, yes, there you go. Very, very good. So yeah, I was very excited for this film. So I'm glad it finally came out in the States. Yeah. My best friend actually, Loki gave me like a file for the film already like two years ago. And I never took advantage because I was so lazy. And now I'm just like, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't get to watch it until now. I'm a bad friend. You've made up for your sins. I like Kayla a book. Like this is just a common thing with friends. I let Kayla a book like a year and a half ago and I have yet to receive it. She probably lost it. It's probably gone. It's fine. It was the price of salt. I don't know if anyone's seen Carol. That's more up my alley. I feel like like artsy sad lesbian films. That's my whole thing. But yeah, I gave that to her to read. I was like, this is even better than the movie. Please read it. And I don't think she did. And she doesn't know where it is. I assume. I remember I think the last time we had Kayla on it was either that was the last the first last podcast we started calling Kayla out on our like bookshelf and she was like, oh, yeah, like here's some stuff. And now I'm like, oh, maybe it's in there where she doesn't she does have that shelf organized by like gay comics and whatever the house she's into. It's like itemized by genre. So it's probably made its way somewhere in there where it belongs, right? Pocket watch, handbooks. I don't know. I commend anyone who who actively just reads. I have a terrible tendency of like, I will probably read one book a year. And but but there's some people who can just kind of read and read and read. And like, I I applaud that. And I'm always very jealous, because usually for me, the thing that slows me down is when I read, my imagination goes everywhere. I will read an entire chapter.  And I wasn't paying a lick of attention to anything. And I have to reread it. I was always really bad about my my sister who was like growing up. She was the bookworm in our family. She would force me into like she would read babysitter's club. And then I would be reading like goosebumps books. But like all that I would do is I would look at the cover, turn it around, read the back of it and go, I know where this is going. And I would just I would sit there. I would literally sit there and just go.  And she would just go, are you reading? And I'm like, nah, I'm already on chapter seven already. And I'm like, don't go in the basement. There's monster blood down there. Don't go. I so relate to that. I was literally a literature major in college. I read books for my degree, do the exact same thing, can't focus, have to reread every time if my mind so much as wanders. If there's like a drop of sound in the room with me, I can't focus. I don't know what's happening. And like, I, what am I reading now? I'm currently trying to read graphic novels. I have the legend of Korra graphic novels. Oh, nice. Which are honestly not that great. Oh, it's kind of disappointing. But like eight pages into the first one, Korra and I saw me do finally kiss. Oh, yeah, that I got. I was into that. Yes, exactly. But I'm having trouble getting through that. And graphic novels take so much less time to read. And I feel like I don't lose my focus as much because I have pretty pictures to look at. And I still like I still can't get through it.  I mean, yeah, that's fair. Which was by the way, since you said legend of Korra, I do have to say I believe legend of Korra has probably the greatest ending for for a show. Like, who cares about Mako? No one likes Mako. Everyone was thinking at the entire time. Everyone was just like, you know, man, Mako, this dude's not good for anybody. Like, he really kind of needs to go to the side. So that ending, which I won't spoil it for anyone who's who hasn't watched Legend of Korra. But if you have not, please do yourself a favor and watch Legend of Korra is a fantastic show with very deep themes to like talking about like PTSD, a lot of mental health issues. Unbelievable. Fantastic. Yeah, the ending is fantastic. They clearly made it for the same audience of Avatar just now grown up because that's what we are. And I especially the first season, I thought was just so perfect, like perfect television. Next couple seasons, they were less good. I feel like this is something very important to me, the Himbo character. Avatar's always got a Himbo. You got Sokka in the original Last Airbender series, and he's like my comfort character.  I didn't get nearly as attached to him as I got to Sokka. And it's very upsetting. Well, I think for Sokka, they allowed him to really grow.    They need to fall in love with with the person that ends up becoming the moon.  That's some trauma he went through. And she's always watching over you all this time. Every night she's watching you, Sokka. Every kiss. Every kiss. Everything you do, Sokka. And then he gets a space sword. Oh, so good. He does.  Oh, it's so cool. God. And then he loses it. So they give him a lot of room to grow. I know for Bolin, they, they kind of give him some, some very cool bending, which you get on spoil it. But, you know, but I do agree. I, I also think that in my opinion, I won't speak too much about the like production that happened between, you know, the last airbender versus legend Korra. But it certainly felt like the creators had a lot of a lot of a lot more control with the very first story within, you know, like with legend Korra, there were a lot of things behind the scenes that were causing it to have that typical flow of each season had to be its own story versus the last, you know, last airbender where it took three books just to get to the Fire Lord, you know, to the final boss. But for legend Korra, they kind of had to wrap each of them up because there probably wasn't going to be one after that, but it just kind of kept going. Yeah, exactly. It felt very much like they had the first season written. They made it Nickelodeon bought more seasons. Yeah, exactly. And then they just kind of were like, Oh, I hadn't totally planned this out. Here's a plot about this is really a spoiler. Here's a huge gigantic robot. Yeah, which doesn't feel very avatar, but it was still kind of cool. It was so kind of cool. I do hear here call it call out to her show title. I have notes. I do have notes because I can tell you I don't I don't want to say for a fact, but I was a huge avatar nerd. So any kind of news that was coming out in real time, especially in regards to like legend last airbender and legend of Korra, I was there on the internet every week. Legitimately, like you were in the city. I was in the trenches. And you guys, Zoe, you're 100% correct in that. Like they I think they only bought one and then Nickelodeon wanted to keep buying or bought more. And then by the time the fourth one came around, I think there was kind of the murmurings of like this isn't exactly what we thought the show would be. It's a little too mature. And that's why they kind of kicked it to the curb at the last season. And they went from showing the episodes on air live to throwing them on the website. Yeah. Oh, and that was huge. It was super rude. It was like a huge thing in terms of the community because it was just like, oh, wow, you're really just like letting the show die then. The other thing was that I have a title as airbender back in the day. Seasons American television seasons were normally 20 episodes or 20, 21, 22. 22, I think. Yeah. And then so when Legend of Korra came around, they had to condense to what the international standard was, which is 1213. So then they had to kind of change how they told the story, which is why it was like, I think super rush. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Avatar the Last Airbender had all that room to breathe. And they did have a clear vision from the get go. But Legend of Korra, they were like, well, this is like, if we had to do this, this is what they would what we would do.  So I can, I can at least say that. Yeah. I'm really excited, though, that they are creating that studio. Go ahead.  Oh, no, I was just going to say I completely inhaled both the Last Airbender and Korra in the past like couple months. And they felt like, like you were saying, Legend of Korra felt very rushed and as though the quality slowly got a little bit a little bit worse. But Avatar, you notice a huge difference just even in animation quality. I know nothing about animation. I took one class in college. But like the first season is not nearly as pretty as the last season. And it's just interesting how different those shows are, though also being the same. Yeah. I mean, I was gonna say, I just hope with the news, like with this new like dedicated studio, I just really want an entire show seasons plural dedicated to Avatar Kyoshi. Like, I feel like we all deserve that. And she's just like the most badass.  So like you wouldn't even have to wait for the third season. She would just straight end you. And then like that would be it. So I would be really excited to see what type of direction they would go if they decided to go with that particular Avatar. Yeah, I can I can tell you that there's a unfortunately for you know, while there's a book series on Avatar Kyoshi, but I wanted like they could they could they want to I need animated my brain. It's a book. I can't do it. Oh, I can also tell you canonically Kyoshi is a lesbian or bi. I think they do allude to that in the graphic novels. And also Kaya, I think something. Oh, yeah. Tenzin sister. Yes, she is. She's bi. Yeah, she has a partner or a failure. She came out to her parents. Yes, she did. We're gay all up in here. Which I was so happy about because she's a milf.  I'm sorry. Milf representation. Which one? Which one are we talking about? Kaya from Korra. Yeah. Hold on. I'm going to look that up real quick. She's a sister. Yeah, Tenzin. Oh, yeah. That's it. That's it. Oh, I agree. I agree. So hot. I am Kyoshi as well. My my opinion of Avatar the series in general. Like I said, I was a fan at the time. I will say that I think I wish they had the same some of the same people that were there for oversight with Avatar the Last Airbender for Legend of Korra. Because I think like the the writing team and like the really solid team of people they had for the Last Airbender like Erin E has, who went on to make the Dragon Prince on Netflix. Erin E has John Carlo Volpe like a good chunk of people that were not there in the beginning were were not there in the second part. They were there in the beginning. I feel like they really helped amplify Avatar The Last Airbender, which is like I think Legend of Korra is so much more of a stamp of like, to be fair, fresh blood, you know, or like people who really were able to get their chance on an action show. And now you see their names everywhere like Voltron, Voltron, any other like upcoming Dreamworks action show, like people probably worked on Legend of Korra and they're they're getting more jobs because of it. But you really see more of the stamp of like Brian and Mike and new blood. And and I was like, you know, that's fine. And those are my notes. Thanks for listening. I wrote a banger tweet that like no one like, but it's fine. It's fine. But I really wait, we say that again, Zoe. I'll go like it. I'll find it and retweet it. Like, I really, really, really wish that they make a an entire show based on the cabbage merchant. Like I absolutely love that character more than anything else. And and the tweet was, you know, it's the story. It's the rags to riches story, you know, like the rise and fall of the cabbage merchant, and it's called Slullis victory. Oh, my God. That's it. That's it. Turn around. Go ahead, Mike. Go ahead. Upside down. Slullis victory. Yeah, I thought that I was like, I cannot wait for this tweet to go by. It's like, oh, here we go. Here we go. Go ahead, Mike. I'll let you do there you go. But that was my thing. I was waiting for that tweet to explode, and it got like maybe five likes and probably like three of those accounts were my moms, but it's cool. It's fine. It's fine. Are you going to go and find it and like it naturally? I hope so. I hope so. Everyone in the chat, go ahead and find that tweet. Link me to that tweet. I need to see it. She needs her seeds. Not to joke topics, but I'm kind of curious. I didn't see it, but I wasn't curious what y'all thought about Raya, the last dragon. Oh, I also haven't seen it. Well, here's the thing. Me and Issa obligated. We have to watch it. We're both Filipino. We have to watch it. Like the moment it said $30, I was like, I got you, fam. I got you. I don't even know where this is going. I did the same thing for crazy rich Asians.  I wanted me. So I had to help find that. But Issa, I'll let you go first. I'll let you go. Oh, really? All right. The first time for you to also see Zoe, I guess. I have a very spicy hot take on Raya as an Asian American that they're saying, oh, representation or whatever. How do I word this? For representation, it was a step, but I would rate Raya like six out of 10 and on a bad day of five out of 10. And that's my review. That's my spicy hot take. I can explain it later, but no, well, I think you actually liked it.  It's definitely a step technologically. So obviously, movies just get better and better, and this is no exception that it just looks absolutely amazing. I think I know what Issa is saying. I'll say this. There's a foil character to Raya. And in my opinion, fits better with me personally. That character was a lot more complex. There was a lot more going on. And for the sake of, it's an animation, and it's, at the end of the day, it's for kids. So I feel like cohesiveness, sticking with Raya's story alone makes it much more digestible, especially for younger audiences. So I was all about that, but they gave you these little hints of this other character. There's, again, I don't want to ruin it or anything, but that character just had a really good conflicting story. And I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm depressed right now in my own personal life. I need to know more about you right now because you're kind of connecting with me a little bit. I'm a little conflicted in life. I don't know what's going on. So if they would have went in that direction, or hey, maybe there's a there's a part two. And if they go in with that person's story, which I don't think they will. But if they did, oh man, that's good. I need at least a solid three hour movie. Like I'm watching that whole entire thing. So I think Raya as a as a whole, I think I hope the film will be successful, you know, just for you. Okay, but here's the thing. Like I read those articles, but they never really talk about the Disney plus numbers because I think Disney doesn't show those numbers. I think like box office, I'm not going to know movie theater. I don't think very many people are. And according to my my AMC stocks, not a lot of people are going to the because I'm losing money right now. I'm losing money. Yeah, I haven't heard great things. But I think I think the film as a whole I think again, it's it's a it's a well, it's a good story, a lot of good fun characters. But yeah, you know, I think it is. Sorry, someone's coming on discord and it is throwing me off. They're like, they're like, Noelle, what's your what are your thoughts on pocket watches? It's Papa. They're saying stop talking about Disney. Papa's like, Hey, we need you to make a movie about Oreos and pocket watches. We could do that. Yeah, I think I think the premiere week, like Tom and Jerry did better than Ryan. Oh, Tom and Jerry is like was on its like second or third week when Raya aired and it still did better. So oh, yeah. And I've heard terrible things about Tom and Jerry. Oh, wait, am I allowed to say that? I heard I heard big things. I heard it was fun. But yeah, I don't know about Raya. I feel bad because like, it is like Issa said, it is a good step. I'm afraid that Disney's gonna see this and be like, See, people didn't want to buy this movie or watch it. So why should we continue to do that? It's just like Mulan where there's just like no one likes Asian stuff. No, you guys keep making bad Asian stuff. What was it? It was a Noel, you hit it like right on the head where I think a majority of people if you watch have who if you talk to them who've watched Raya, they would much prefer that the movie would have been about the other conflicting character because that really was where the interest was. But they are kind of like doing a lot of repeat stuff in regards to Raya and some of the things it's like, Oh, no, I'll look at this another like person who loves their dad and is fighting for not necessarily honor, but she's fighting for her dad. And they have cute animal sidekicks. Cute animal sidekick. I love cute animal sidekicks. Don't get me wrong. But I'm kind of over Disney's like formula at this point. It's always like a cute, cute girl, cute animal. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just one thing I did appreciate. There was no music. And I and I actually was like super cool with that. Like I was like waiting for like, like a Mulan reflections to pop in somewhere because I wanted to see if I could hit them Christina Aguilera high notes. But I was like, you know what, it's not it's there's no music. And I was like, I'm okay with this. I kind of hope they keep they continue in in that direction. Interesting. So you mean you mean like no like singles? Yeah, like, like it's not a musical at all. There's yeah, like there's no there's no there's no like literally no music. I was like, wow, silence. Yeah. Bull, bull, bull choices. Yeah, I could definitely talk about Raya a lot more, but we are kind of up at the end. I was having so much fun. Before we go, I do want to call out that Tori and Christina are calling you very cute and chat Noel because you have glasses on. Because they're making fun of my glasses. These are real glasses. I'm getting old. I'm getting old. That's right. You've been avoiding this for so long. I have been. So these are real. They're real. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Yeah. Thank you for having me. Yeah, a lot of fun time. Yeah. Love. I'm glad we could talk about Oreos and Pikachu's and Pikachu's and no dumb answers. And yeah, can we work in another no dumb answers plug? Can we can we get another plug Zoe? Yeah. Can I do it? Am I doing it? Do it.  New episode drops tomorrow. Anywhere you get your podcasts or on the RT site, it's fun. We're okay. At least it's part of the episode. Let's drop in tomorrow.  If you like that, if you vibe with that. Let's go lesbians. Let's go lesbians. Let's go lesbians. Yeah, it's real good. It's real fun. I love making it and I hope that everyone likes listening to it. Oh, yay. I'm sold. I'll listen. One, two, two viewers. Two guaranteed viewers. I'll watch. I'll listen. Check out. There's more gameplay and live shows coming next up. Stay Zen with Kaden Jensen Wednesday morning at 11am CST. And catch you guys later. Thanks for watching. Bye everybody. Bye.


My name is Sam Baknin, and I am the author of Malignancy of Love, Narcissism Revisible. The profoundly disturbing movie we need to talk about Kevin is told from the mother's point of view. Kevin is a mother-justed kid with contact disorder. He blooms into a full-fledged, blood-curdling psychopath in his teens. His mother is one of his victims. Kevin ends up killing the entire family. His mother is the sole survivor and witness to the massacre. He also goes on a rampage and eliminates or assassinates or exterminates numerous schoolmates before he is apprehended for all smiles.  Yes, it is true, some victims never learn. You hear these victims say, it is true that he is a chauvinistic narcissist or psychopath and that his behavior is unacceptable and repulsive and frightening. But all he needs is a little love, and he will be straightened out. I, the victim, will rescue him from his misery and his fortune. I will transform him. I will give him the love he lacked as a child. Then his narcissism, psychopathy, antisocial traits and behaviors will vanish, and we will all live happily ever after. I often come across set examples of the powers of self-delusion that the narcissist provokes in his victims. It is what I call malignant optimism. People simply refuse to believe that some questions are unsolvable. Some diseases cannot be cured. Some disasters are inevitable and just waiting to happen. Such people, such victims, see a sign of hope in every fluctuation. They read meaning and patterns into every random occurrence, every utterance or slip of tongue. They are deceived by their own pressing need to believe in the ultimate victory of good over evil, health over sickness, order over disorder. Life appears to them otherwise to be meaningless and just an arbitrary. The happy ending gives it all significance and restores a sense of comfort and justice. So they impose upon this indifferent universe a design, progress, aims and paths, and this is what is called magical thinking. These victims say, if only he tried harder or hard enough, he could have healed. If only he really wanted to heal. If only we found the right therapy or the right therapist. If only his defenses were down. There must be something good and worthy under the hideous facade. Or no one can be that evil and destructive. Or he didn't mean it, he must have meant it differently. Or God or higher being, the spirit, the soul are the solution, the answer to our prayers. So let us pray and things will be fine. The polyana defenses of the abused are aimed against the emerging and horrible realization and an understanding that humans are specks of dust in a totally apathetic universe. People are the playthings of evil and sadistic forces of which the narcissist and the psychopaths are mere samples. These are defenses against the unbearable realization that the pain of the victims means absolutely nothing to anyone but themselves. Nothing whatsoever. It's all in vain. The narcissist holds magical thinking and malignant optimism in barely disguised content. To him it is a sign of weakness. It gives off the scent of prey. It's a gaping vulnerability, a chink in the armor which he can explode. The narcissistic psychopath uses and abuses this human need for order, for good, for meaning. He uses and abuses all human needs, but especially this one. The liability, selective blindness, malignant optimism. These are the weapons of the beast. The abused are hard at work to provide the narcissist and the psychopath with a very arsenal that will ultimately be used against them and against them only.  She is a malignant optimist.


Fiery horse with a speed of light, a cloud of dust, and a hearty hyo silver! The Lone Ranger! With his faithful Indian companion, Toto, the daring and resourceful mask rider of the plains led the fight for law and order in the early western United States. Nowhere in the pages of history can one find a greater champion of justice. Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. From out of the past come the thundering hoofbeats of the great horse Silver! The Lone Ranger rides again! The Lone Ranger and Toto guided their horses through a woods near the top of Eagle Mountain. Lower on that mountain and on the other slopes in the vicinity, extensive mining operations were in progress because the area was rich in gold. But the masked man and his Indian friend were not interested in gold mines. They were thinking of Dan Reed, the Lone Ranger's teenage nephew, whom they were to meet in the nearby community of Eagle City. They drew rain in a clearing. Here's a spring to provide us with water, Toto. We'll camp here. Ah, it's a good place. Oh, just leave your blanket roll in saddlebags.  Not go to meet Dan Reed? No, Toto. I don't want to ride into town wearing my mask, and there's no point in taking the time to put on a disguise. You meet Dan and bring him here. Here's a saddlebag. I'll take them. I'll give you a hand. Dan, go to town and stagecoach. No, there's no stagecoach to Eagle City. Dan's riding his horse. Otherwise, he'd have had to ride on one of the Hendricks freighters. He's got me ready now. I'll have the camp established by the time you return.  Dan Reed, the nephew of the Lone Ranger, rode into Eagle City and dismounted in front of the local office of the Hendricks freight line. As he tied his horse to the hit trail, he looked for his friends. But the only person in sight was a lean old man with a wrinkled face and a drooping moustache. He grinned as he approached. Howdy, son. Welcome to Eagle City. Thanks, mister. I'm Hank Peabody, swamper in the cafe, as you call me, Hank. Glad to know you, Hank. I'm Dan Reed. Shake, shake. Fine horse you're riding. Thanks. His name's Victor. Victor is a good name. You planning to prospect in the hills for gold? No. Some of the richest claims in the country are the hills around here. Trouble is, most of the land has been staked out. I hadn't thought of searching for gold. If you have some cash, you might buy a good claim. I haven't enough cash to buy a gold claim, even if I wanted to. You could probably sell that horse for enough to make a deal with Jake Ronson. He'd sell money cheap right now. I know that for a fact. Heard him talking about it in the cafe just a few minutes ago. Oh, gosh, he's mad. Where is he? Sure is. Got a bill for freighting his gold. And it was more than the gold was worth.  Should have had it refined. Then freighted the bullion. I think I'll go into the freight office and see if my friends have left any word for me. Freight office is right there. Sam Slater is the Eagle City manager of the Hendricks line. Look through the front window. You'll see him at his desk. Now, as I was saying, Dan, you remind of buying yourself a gold claim. Oh, not today. I'm going to talk to Mr. Slater. Well, drop into the cafe, Dan. The double eagle. Best meals in town. All right, Hank. Thanks. As Dan Reed entered the office of the Hendricks freight line, the mild-mannered man looked up from the desk. He was the Eagle City manager named Sam Slater. Mr. Slater? That's right. My name is Dan Reed. Have you a message for me? Message for you? No, I haven't. Is there supposed to be a message here for you? Well, I expected to meet friends here in Eagle City, but I haven't seen them. I thought they might have left a note for me. Not that I know of. Oh, I guess I'll be along pretty soon. Well, you're welcome to sit down, wait, son. It's cooler in here than outside in the sun. Oh, thanks, Mr. Slater. I think I... Looks like there might be trouble. Jake Ronson's heading this way with a couple of friends. Oh, he's talking to Hank. Yes, I saw Hank introduce himself to you. Did he tell you about Jake Ronson? No, he didn't say much. Jake owns a small gold claim. He's mad because of what it costs to ship his ore. Oh, Jake, take it out. You let me alone, Joe.  Jake, I don't set the prices. They're the same on all the Hendricks lines. They're too high. That ore's shipping them out. I told you not to ship the ore. You should have had it refined in the Stampin Mill and freighted the refined gold. Same as everyone else. Don't tell me how to run my business. All right, Jake. And don't get the idea that the other mine owners and I can't do without the Hendricks line. We're through with your outfit. Well, that's up to you, Jake. To me and the others, eh, boys? All right, Jake. I'm servant notice, lady. I'm gonna start a freight line with honest prices. And I'll take away your business. I'm gonna bust you with the Hendricks outfit. Are you, Jake? Yeah, yeah. I've already talked to some of the men and they promised me their business. You'll learn a costly lesson, Jake.  Oh, no, no, no, Jake. I only said... You figure to teach me a lesson, eh? I expect you'll send gunmen to attack my wagons, eh? Nonsense. You just try it, Slater. I'll be ready for your gunslingers. I'll have my wagons guarded. There'll be no gunplay as far as I'm concerned. You don't fool me with mealy-mile talk. I'll be ready for your attacks, yet even crooked... Jake, that's about enough. You're free to complain all you want about the Hendricks rates. But don't you call me a crook. Another threat, eh? You hear that, boys? Now, get out. Don't call me.   Tonto arrived in town a few minutes after Jake Ronson and his friends had left the office. Dan Reed met his Indian friend and rode with him to the camp on Eagle Mountain. There he told the Lone Ranger about the incident he had witnessed. The masked man was keenly interested. And then about ten minutes after Jake Ronson left with his friends, Tonto rode into town and we left right away. And how did Slater take it when Ronson called him a crook? Golly, he was awfully mad. He said Ronson was mighty unfair. Ronson, plenty big fools pay freight on ore. That's what Mr. Slater said. All the other mine operators get the ore refined, and then they pay freight on just the gold ingots. But Ronson insisted on shipping the ore just as it came from the ground. It was all packed in burlap sacks. Why him do a thing like that? That's what I'm wondering. Mr. Slater said he tried to tell Ronson the freight bill it'd be more than the ore was worth, but Ronson told him to mine his own business. Kimmasabi. Yes. You think Hendrick's lying crooked? As far as I know, Tonto, the company's very fair. Mr. Slater said Ronson had go broke if he tried to carry freight rates at reduced rates. I'd like to know what Ronson has in mind. Kimmasabi. Me scout around town for a few days. Maybe find out. That's a good idea, Tonto. Dan Reed and Tonto went into town the following day and returned to the camp after dark with a report. Jake Ronson wasn't fooling. He really intends to start a freight line. Today he bought a heavy wagon. That's right. And him talked to miners. Him promised to cut freight rate. He can't do it without losing money. That's behind his plan. The following night, when Dan and Tonto returned from Eagle City, they brought further news of Jake Ronson's activities. Today he bought six horses, sir. And plenty good horses. And him hired driver and good shotgun guard. Then he has one wagon ready to go. That's right. He says he'll operate one wagon to prove that he can handle freight at half of what the Hendrick's lines charge. Then he'll be able to borrow money for expansion. Do you know when he plans to make the first run? No, sir. What else did Ronson say? That's about all. Him say plenty about Sam Slater. Oh, yes. Golly, I should think Mr. Slater'd be fighting mad. What did Ronson say about him? He keeps calling Mr. Slater a thief and a crook. Tells everyone they're being robbed when they use the Hendrick's lines. Sheriff warned Ronson two or three times. But Ronson only laughed and say him not afraid of Slater. I guess there's not much Slater can do about it. Ronson's bigger and stronger. Has Slater made any comment? Not that I know of, sir. Hmm, plenty quiet. Sometimes quiet, man, or dangerous. The next day, Jake Ronson spread word that he would make a special announcement that evening in the cafe. So instead of returning to camp as usual at sundown, Dan Reed and Tuttle remained in town to hear the announcement. Soon after dark, the cafe was crowded with mine operators and others who wanted to hear what Jake had to say. Sam Slater was not among those present, but the sheriff was there and so were Dan and Tuttle. Presently, Dan nudged his Indian friend. Tuttle, Ronson's climbing up on a chair. Maybe now he'll make an announcement. Gents! Gents! Quiet down, old man! Quiet! Let's hear what Ronson has to say. Quiet, Gents! He'll waiters. Pull up the service. Gents, I reckon you've all heard about a new freight line. I want you to know that I'm going ahead with my plans despite the threats. Threats? What are you talking about? Oh, yes, Gents. I've had a couple of letters of threatened trouble for me. For me and my wagons. If I tried to compete with a hand-fixer. Who had you? Thank you didn't tell me you'd had threats. I didn't mention the letters, Sheriff, because they were unsigned. I couldn't prove that Sam Slater wrote this. Golly, Tuttle, that doesn't sound like Sam Slater. Where are the letters? I burned them. I chose how little I think of Slater's threats. Or as I say, this is a free country. No one has the right to stand in the path of progress or to stifle competition. Of course, if you mind operators, they're afraid to use my freight and service. I'll go broke. And the hand-fixer will have things his own way. And be free to keep on robbing him. My wagon starts for St. Joe one week from today. My rate for carrying a gold bullion is just half of what the hand-fix people charge. Well, you'll have my business, Jake. Yeah, mine. Count on me, Jake. I'm all for you. We'll bust hand-fixers. All right, boys. Thanks. I knew I could count on you. I'll have my office open to receive your shipments later in the week. Right now, I'm going home to do some paperwork. But, uh, I want to show my appreciation to you. The refreshments are on me. As Jake Ronson left the cafe, Dan Reed turned to Totto and said... Do you think we should start for camp right away, Tom? You want to start now, Dan? Well, I'm mighty hungry. Half hour make no difference. Loan range of not mind if we stay and eat. Good. Jake Ronson will pay for the meal. He said the rest... No, Dan. No. We pay for supper. Well, okay. As long as we eat, I'm starved. Because of the decision to eat before starting the trip to the Loan Rangers camp, Dan and Totto were in the cafe a half hour later, when a man rushed through the Batwing doors and shouted excitedly... Oh, I'm glad you're still here. I ran all the way. Oh, what's the trouble, Sandy? I was passing Doc Smith's house. I'm away home. Doc was standing in the open door. He asked me to hurry back here and tell you. Well, tell me what is, Doc and Totto? No, no, no. Not Doc. It's Jake Ronson. What about Jake Ronson? He's in Doc's house. Someone shot him. The curtain falls on the first act of our Loan Ranger adventure. Before the next exciting scenes, please permit us to pause for just a few moments. Now to continue. The sheriff left the cafe and hurried to the doctor's house a quarter mile away. He was followed by Dan and Totto, and half a dozen men whose curiosity outweighed the desire for further refreshments. The group crowded Doc Smith's living room, where Jake Ronson sat with one leg braced by splints and heavily bandaged. The doctor said... There's not much I can tell you, Sheriff. I heard a shot and went out the front door to investigate. I saw Jake Ronson lying in the street. Did you see who fired the shot? No. Looks like the bullet hit Jake in the leg. Yes, the tibia was broken. The why? The bone between the knee and the ankle. I carried Jake in here for treatment. I sent for you because I thought you should know about it. It may have been an attempted murder. Sam Slater's work, I'll bet you. Jake, what have you got to say? Nothing. Jake, I've got to arrest the man who shot you. Forget it, Sheriff. I'll handle things my own way when I get back in my feet. Do you know who shot you? I wouldn't name anyone unless I had proof. Did you see him? Sheriff, I'm not going to say anything about the shooting. But I'll tell you this. It's not going to scare me out of starting my freight line. My wagon will start on schedule. Good for you, Jake. That's the talk. We'll stick with you. But, Jake... Sheriff, I'll tell you this much. If anything happens to my freight wagon or the gold cargo, it's because of Sam Slater. Remember that. I'll remember it, Jake. Slater, the one who shot you? I'm not talking about that. All right, Jake. I can't make you talk. But I'm going to call on Slater. See what he has to say. Later that night, Dan Reed and Tahoe told the Lone Ranger all that had happened in town. Seated on the ground close to the campfire, the masked man listened with interest. So when the sheriff went to talk to Sam Slater, several of the townsmen dragged along, and Tahoe and I went with him. Slater was alone in his house. How did he react when he heard that Ronson had been shot? Well, he seemed surprised. He said he knew nothing about the shooting. Tahoe and I stayed and talked to him a few minutes after the others left. He was mighty worried. Why? Well, he figures he'll be blamed if anything happens to Ronson's first wagon. Well, he more for Dan's job. He did? Yes, sir. He said he needs someone to help him with the bookkeeping. Besides, he'd like to have someone who could swear to an alibi in case he needs it. Dan, that might be a good idea.  Yes. But Slater will want me to live at his house. That's all right. It'll be for only a week or so. Tahoe will see you every day to receive a report. We'll know a lot more about Slater by the time the Ronson line starts operations next week. Dan Reed rolled into town the next morning and went to work for Slater. During the following week, Jake Ronson conducted business from his home, where he was confined with his leg and a heavy cast. On the appointed day, the freighter was supposed to start at noon, but Ronson found last-minute details that needed attention. It was late afternoon when everything was ready. With the aid of crutches and friends, Ronson made his way to the center of town, where his freighter was ready to start. Tahoe and Dan were in the crowd that gathered. Did you get a copy of the route, Tahoe? Oh, you get it. Are you in the Lone Ranger going to follow the wagon to make sure nothing happens? That's right. After wagon starts, we ride to Camp Tahoe Lone Ranger. Then we follow. I wish I could go with you. No, Kimu-Sami, say you stay and jump. Yes, I know. Are you going to follow the gold all the way to St. Joe? I may not know. Well, driver, you have the best guard in the county. You should get through all right. Oh, you're making, Mr. Ronson. You and the guys keep your eyes open. Please, sure will. All right, let it go. Come on!  There it goes, Tahoe. Uh-huh. Now, me go tell Lone Ranger. The Lone Ranger was waiting when Tahoe rode into camp with the news that the wagon, after a long delay, had finally started on the trip. We'll start as soon as I tighten the cinch. Is Dan going to stay in town? Uh-huh. Him staying sharp. Easy study, Silver. Uh, we catch wagon right alongside? No, Tahoe. The garden drivers see us. They might think we're outlaws and start shooting. They ride far behind the wagon. All right, you ready? Uh-huh. He's just ready for us. One, two, three! Let's go! The wagon trail followed a winding route through the rugged mountains to avoid steep slopes. Because of this, the freighter had to travel over five times the beeline distance between Eagle City and a landmark known as Blue Spring. The wagon was halfway to Blue Spring when darkness gathered. Get up there! Come on! You're going to keep driving all night? Depends on the moonlight, shotgun. I'll keep going as long as I can see the trail. Want to make up the time we lost at the start? Get up there! Come on! At midnight, the moon was high and bright, and Blue Spring was just ahead. There, a man waited in ambush. Though the ambusher had left town after dark, he had reached Blue Spring ahead of the freighter by riding over the mountains in a relatively straight line instead of following the meandering wagon trail. He waited behind a rock. When he heard the approaching wagon, he gripped his carbine and levered a cartridge into position. I'll get the guard first, then the driver. The low ranger and Toto were on the wagon trail when they heard the gunfire some distance ahead. Guns mean trouble. Let's go, Toto. Monson! The masked man and the Indian raced ahead on the rough road, guiding their horses around dangerous turns at breakneck speed. Jake Ronson had already started to remove the gold from the wagon. He was holding a heavy ingot of bullion when he heard the approaching hoof beats. As he glanced at the back trail, he saw two horsemen ride into view. His carbine had been left beside the trail, so he dropped the gold and drew his six-gun. In a frenzy of fear, he opened fire without realizing that the range was too great for accurate shooting. Ronson was gripped by panic when his gun was empty. Thinking only of escape, he leaped to the roadside, raced through the underbrush, and mottled his waiting horse. Despite the gunfire, Toto did not slacken their speed. They saw the gunman holster his empty weapon and ride away. A moment later, the masked man and his friend drew rain beside the halted wagon. Hold it! Hold it! Keep it, Tommy. Two men on wagon. Do what you can for them, Toto. I'm going after that gunman. As the lone ranger turned off the trail and started an uphill pursuit, Toto climbed aboard the freighter. He found that the guard and driver, though wounded, were alive. Both were unconscious. The driver opened his eyes while the Indian was wounded. You'd be all right. Wound, not kill. Dry, Gulcher. Shot without warning. You and Garn both lived. Me turn wagon, tie scout behind, then drive to town. Take you to doctor. Gold. Gold safe. You'd not worry. Meanwhile, the lone ranger pursued the fugitive to the top of the mountain and down the other side on the comparatively level floor of the valley. He called on Silver for greater speed. Come on, Silver. Silver seemed to know that he was expected to overtake the horse ahead, with every stride the powerful stallion gained on the man ahead. Silver closed the gap. The lone ranger was riding alongside the gunman. He held his rope. You'll never get me alive. A rope snaked through the air. The noose dropped over the fugitive. He was pulled from the saddle. He hit the ground and rolled, then wailed in pain. You should have stopped your horse. This time my leg is really broke. Help me, help me, will you? I can't stand the pain. Jake Ronson, so you're the gunman. At about 8.30 in the morning, Dan Reed and Sam Slicker were on their way from Slicker's house to the Hendricks' office when a crowd of men approached. You slicker, we want you over. Those men look ugly. They're bringing ropes. We'll fix it. Try to steal our coat. Hold on, Chets. What's wrong?  The garden driver was shot. Mr. Slicker didn't do it. He had it done. An engine brought the wagon into town a few minutes ago. Doctor's working on the garden driver right now. Jake Ronson said you'd do something like that. No, I swear. This is the first I know of it. Grab him, boy! The kid too. Take him both. Hold on, there you are. Sheriff, stop these men. Ho, ho, ho! Sheriff, we just saw the Ronson freighter. The engine told us about the ambush. You let Dan and Slater go. They didn't do it. Look over yonder, boys. My deputy is carrying a man into my office. You see who he is? It's Jake Ronson. Yes, and this time his leg is really busted. Really busted? Look, the man who caught him all night to bring him through the hills from the place where he ambushed his own freighter. That's right, boys. Ronson's scheme to get a lot of gold on a freighter. He planned to dry-gulch the garden driver and take the gold for himself. And he planned that Slater here'd be blamed for it. But Ronson had a broken leg. That was a fake. I got the whole story from Doc Smith while he was working on the garden driver, the freighter. Ronson persuaded Doc to help him fake the story of a broken leg. So we'd all think Slater had taken a shot at Ronson. That's right. Doc didn't know that Ronson planned to use the broken leg as an alibi while he went out and tried to murder his own garden driver. Well, Doc wouldn't have any pardon in attempted murder. So he told the whole story. And then Ronson started the freight line thinking he'd get rich with one good haul by stealing all the gold. Yes, and he'd have gotten away with it if that masked man hadn't come along. We ought to lynch Jake Ronson. How the law deal with him, boys. You let this be a lesson to you men. You can't get something for nothing. Why any right-thinking man would look for something underhanded when Ronson offered to freight gold at half-right. Later. I reckon we owe you an apology. That's all right, gents. I'm glad the truth came out. Oh, you, Dan? Yes, sir. Masked man said he'd meet you in town to one camp. Yes, sir. I reckon he started for camp already. Dan, is that masked man a friend of yours? He sure is. Well, I'm deeply indebted to him. Aren't we all? He certainly are. Who is he? Well, you should know that, Slater. He's the lone ranger. I don't know.


This is the first time I'm presenting and there's only two people. But yeah, let's... And so my name is Weishan. I work in Alibaba Cloud. I'm a database architect there. So the cool thing about Alibaba database group is that our unit is actually cut across the entire Alibaba group. So we don't just support Alibaba Cloud. We support Taobao, TML, all the different business units within Alibaba. So we have the SREs in our team. We have the developers, the product managers. Everybody's in the same group cut across. So this is actually quite unique within Alibaba. So five things to talk about today. Introduction, database overview. The first two will be a little bit of marketing. And then number three and number four will be technical deep dive. I don't have the demo today because I just burst my benchmark limits yesterday night. So I still have some numbers to show though. Should I stand up? I shouldn't stand up, right? Yeah, so database architect used to be a solution engineer in Oracle. Then before that I was SRE in GlobalSign. So Alibaba Cloud has actually a wide variety of databases. There is the OLTP databases, the OLAP databases, NoSQL databases. One cool thing to say is that during double 11 last year, actually the entire workload was supported on Alibaba Cloud. We were able to process about 500 over 1000 orders per second. That was quite impressive. We have different types of databases, the relational databases, the NoSQL, analytic and certain tools. So we have like for example, PolarDB that is for OLTP workload is a cloud native database. We have Cassandra, we have Mongo, so we have a partnership with MongoDB. So currently in MongoDB 4.2, we are the only one in the world that has it. The other cloud vendors doesn't have it. And then we have Clickhouse. Clickhouse is pretty cool. It's written by the Russians. It's a super fast OLAP database, highly compatible with MySQL. These are all the entire range of services that we have. We have PolarDB, we have the standard RDS, your OLAP, your analytic DB. You can see how all this fits into it. One cool thing I want to mention is DES, Database Autonomous Service. So this is like a service that can monitor your databases. For example, if it ran out of resources, it can do auto scaling for you. If it can do smart index recommendations, it can also do things like... Basically the idea is to tell you that the database is going to fail before you even know that it's failed. Of course, we make a lot of contribution to the MySQL community as well. There's a lot of enhancement. So we have our own version of Ali SQL. So that is a combination of all the different upstream contribution and the contribution from Pekona and others. We made it into it and we contribute back to the upstream. We have a service called the Distributed Relational Database Service. So this is like a database proxy that allows you to do sharding natively. So you just configure... The proxy will know where all the different shards and the data are stored. So it just drops to it automatically. So we will open source this year as well. White papers. The last few years, we have started to release a lot of white papers talking about the design philosophy that we did, why we did it, how we did it. One of the things that is really cool is X-Engine. So we can think of X-Engine as a replacement for INODB in MySQL. The reason why we designed X-Engine is because for e-commerce workloads we have a very unique workload because sometimes hot data cache, hot data, cold data might become hot data really quickly due to promotions and all that. And we realized that INODB couldn't handle the kind of workload. They're switching from cold to hot simultaneously. So we had to come out of our own X-Engine, storage engine to do it. The other one that I'll be talking about is analytic DB today. So analytic DB is our own cloud native design OLAP database. So today I'll be talking about it. We released a white paper on it as well. That's all for the marketing. Now it's going to go to the deep dive technical stuff. So, analytic DB for MySQL has quite a long history. It started off back in 2011. It was designed for, it was called Garuda in 2011. And after that we realized that it's not good enough. Then we released a new version 2014 called ADS. And it's on Ali Baba Cloud. After that we released 2016. And today is analytic DB 3.0. It's 100% compatible with SQL 2003 standards. We use it during 2011 to support the real-time analytics for internal business units. There are some of the features of analytic DB. One of the cooler thing is you realize in traditional relational databases most of the data are stored in rows format. And it's very slow when you do things like sum or aggregation. That is why columnar database started things like SAP HANA. They start using proposing in-memory columnar store. But the problem is those kind of databases are weak in OLTP workload. So we actually have a design that is row column hybrid. It allows you to do quick point lookups and also allows you to do columnar, sum or aggregation really quickly with very little overhead. Column joins, real-time queries. So we use this direct acyclic graph as well. So think of it as like a map reduce kind of concept. It's a stage by stage pipelining. So in map reduce you have like a lot of maps. Then after that you reduce it. So for DAG, execution engine is the same. We split the workload into different nodes. Then after that we run it stage by stage. And then finally we consolidate the results back in the master node. So I'll start to go into the nitty gritty details. This is an architecture diagram of analytic DB. The thing that you want to see is in the storage layer, there will be a single leader and two followers. GTMs is transaction management. DAG is the direct acyclic graph. WLM is the workload management. So you have a leader and a followers. On the storage portion you have the workers with leaders and followers as well. And all these are all synced through the rough consensus. On the resource portion I want to touch on is that in the next few months we will be able to do kind of like a hybrid partitioning table. So you can have all the hot data on NVMe SSD and your code data on OSS. So this reduces the storage cost by quite a bit considering when you have more than 20 terabytes, 100 terabytes of data. The other thing I want to mention is optimizer. So we support rule-based and cost-based optimizer. You might be wondering, rule-based is like the design that was 20 years ago but why do we use it? I'll explain later. Storage engine architecture. So this storage engine we wrote it ourselves. A few things I want to mention here, predicate query layer. This allows you to do predicate filtering at the storage layer site. So instead of sending the rare cost to the storage and getting all the data back, it's actually able to do the predicate push-down at the storage layer. So if you do a select where name equals to Weishan, the data that is returned from the storage back to the compute node is only where it goes to Weishan. And then you do the joins and all that. So as you can imagine, this allows you to reduce significantly the amount of data sent between the storage and the compute itself. Yeah, this is really, really cool. Transaction manager. So we have two-phase commit MVCC for snapshots isolation. We have consensus algorithm manager, rough manager that apply the consistency across different nodes if you need distributed transactions. Caches, we cache the blocks index partition, primary key indexes. And this thing here, the gray color thing, it's actually cool in the sense where the storage portion is pluggable. So you can point it to object storage, you can point it to HDFS, you can point it to whatever file system you like if you want to. So they're all modular. The next one I want to talk about is some of the optimization on engineering stuff that we did. In your traditional OLAP databases, Teradata and all those, they actually have the read request and the write request all served within the node. So you start up a Teradata service and all the request is being sent to it. So this means that when you're doing, for example, about loading or real-time streaming at night or whatever, it will affect your read, your reporting a lot. Basically, you will have to do the about loading at night and then do the reporting in the morning. This is really old-school traditional stuff. So what we do here is we actually split out the read nodes and the write nodes. So the read path and the write path are all done separately. So they never have to compete for resources. And the data are all written into locks, commit locks. And imagine, you can think of it like Cassandra SST tables. They are all returned to the MAM table and to the SST table. And within the SST table, they do a compaction. So this is the concept that's similar. But what we do for the compaction is we use parallel MAP reduced jobs to do it. That was really, really quickly. In the diagram on the bottom right, you can see that when a client do a select query, hits one, sorry, it do a write query and it writes it to the write node. And if it goes to the read node to do this select, so he wants to read what is just right. So there's a way to do it. You can choose whether you want to pull, the read node will pull the data from the write node if you need, like, guaranteed session consistency. Or if you don't really care, you can do a bounded stillness read and then just read it from the distributed file system below. So it's really up to you. So some jobs, some queries, they require real-time consistency. So they have to read it from the write node. But some, they don't care. They just do it from the file system itself. And you can add nodes, read nodes, like the partition will just auto-balance by itself. One of the things that a lot of data warehouse designer, they get a lot of headaches is where to put the indexes. Because indexes are not cheap for writes. So whenever you put, like, indexes, they affect all the writes. So they'll have to think, like, oh, I have to put it on a primary key column. I have to put it on this column, that column. And it's problematic, right? Every time a new OLAP query turns up and then it will just blow out database because there's no index and it do a full table scan. One thing we did is indexes on every single column. So we don't care. We index every column. So whatever query you hit at, analytic DB or ADB, it doesn't matter. So you can just throw anything at it. So you don't have to, like, think of the indexes, index it, and then you run the query. Just throw everything at it. It's fine. And we have, so for example, on the left, you have a select query that uses the name, the sex, the city, and some JSON data type. So we have inverted index, bitmap index, and all this filtering can be done at an index layer itself. So if you are doing slightly more selective query, you don't even need to hit your data files at all. Everything can be done at an index level. The filtering is all done at an index level. This is really, really cool. I don't think a lot of other databases do this. Just now I mentioned one of the key engineering features was the hybrid row and column storage. So we have the detail file and the metadata detail file. So this detailed metadata file is stored in memory. There's always cache in memory or RAM. And it's all things like statistics, dictionary, the mean size, max size, distinct count. And all these will help to do column pruning during the query time. So based on all this statistic information, they know what you call them to prune. And so in all design itself, the data in each table partition is maintained in a single file called a detail file. And they're all separated into multiple row groups with fixed size. Within a row group itself, the values from the same columns are stored together in data blocks next to each other. So even if the columns, when you need to query all the columns, they are stored in different data blocks, but they're all besides each other. So this spin itself can pick up all the data block by itself. So you don't need random access. It's not a random access IO pattern anymore. It's not random anymore. So this is like quite fast sequential IO pattern. And if you have complex data type, so on the left, you have all the data blocks for the column, all the header, they're all fixed size. And if you have things like JSON or vectors, sometimes they are unpredictable in size. They could be one Mac, 10 Mac, 16 Mac. So if you try to accommodate them in the same file itself, you're going to have problems, because sometimes when you read a block, it's 4K, 8K, and sometimes it's like 16 Mac. So it doesn't make sense, right? So we have designed very, very similar to Postgres, Toastable. So if you have JSON or complex data type, what the main file actually stores is just a pointer to an additional file. So instead of storing it all in the same data file, data blocks, it's just a pointer to an external file. So this is really quick, right? Some people might think, if you index every column, when you do the writes, it's going to be very, very slow. So how do we make sure that the indexes doesn't conflict with the write performance? One of the design breakthrough that we did was we have a concept of the baseline data and the incremental data. So we have a main index file, main data file, and all writes to it. Maybe I'll just go through this. So there's incremental data and baseline data. When we write, we always write to the incremental data and it emerges back to the main data file. How we do it is, first, on the incremental data site, we make it immutable. At the same time, in the atomic session, we create a second incremental data file that accepts all incoming requests. Before the merging of the baseline data and the incremental still data is completed, all true will serve incoming requests. And once the merge is completed, the old data is removed. And then it's being served by the baseline data and the incremental data. Advanced optimizer. For example, in Oracle, they used to support RBO, a rule-based optimizer, and then they start using Cosbase because they think that Cosbase is much more powerful, much more advanced, which is true, and rule-based has no place in the world anymore. But we think otherwise. In an OLAP kind of database, sometimes you don't really need to do planning. For example, if you want to do point-lookup, you know that you're going to use the index. So perhaps it's better to actually just put it in the rule itself and say that for point-lookup, these kind of queries don't even do planning, just do it this way. So in our scenario, because we have so much users querying our ADV all the time, it doesn't make sense to do that, to waste that kind of CPU cycles for that kind of useless queries like point-lookup. So we just tell the rule and say, every time you receive this kind of request or if indexes on it just do a point-lookup query, just use this index straight away. Adaptive, join, auto-optimization. So at runtime, we will collect all the rows, and then if based on the predicate, based on the rows returned, at runtime we will decide whether we want to use this table to join this table or A to join B or B to join A. So this is quite standard optimization. Parallel queries. My SQL 8 has it, I think. Yeah, so we have it as well. Partitioning pruning. So if you query a where clause and a where clause is in a, for example, you query by date, and this date is in two partitions, so we just read these two partitions and the rest is being ignored. So this is very standard optimization as well. One really cool thing is for this database is our optimizer, our execution engine is all storage aware, because it's all cloud native, right? So we all know, we actually put in some smartness into the storage layer itself. So like I said earlier on, there will be predicate push down, join push down, index and joins, based on at the storage site. So the optimizer doesn't even need to do all this. When it sends the query to the storage site, the storage will know and do the filtering and the push down itself. So this is, I think there's only one, there's only one database in the world doing this right now. I think it's XRData, Oracle XRData. They have a, it's like a single rack machine that the storage is like really expensive and it's got smartness built in, like smart engine built in. That is very expensive. Then I'll talk a little bit about the execution engine. We have, we use code gen, very similar to LLVM, so it's compiled at runtime, SIMD and CPU cache friendly. One thing I want to touch on is the DAG engine. The DAG engine was used first in MapReduce and after that by Spark, SparkRDDs. So basically it's a stage by stage pipelining. But the problem with MapReduce is whenever you do the multiple maps, it needs to hit the disk. You need to store the temporary data on the disk and then after that, at the reduced site, from the disk and then do the processing again. So you can have multiple stages. In Spark, oh sorry, in MapReduce and if one is filled, then you need to do a retry, or you need to build in a retry logic. So in SparkRDD it's the same, but Spark is more powerful because you can have unlimited amount of stages and then you can do like whatever you want and all the way to the end and then you do the calculation itself and all this can be done in memory. That's why Spark is really quick. So MapReduce, Spark are all different implementations of DAG's engine and we use this DAG engine as well. The reason why we use it is because in essence, and I think DB for my SQL is actually MPP database. There are multiple nodes. The data is all fragments all over the place. So you need some way to, so you generate a, at an optimizer site, you generate an execution plan and this one is, this plan needs to be carved out and distributed to all the different worker nodes and so you would need an engine to do all the stage by stage calculation and then the results return back to the coordinator itself. A benchmarks. So this is one of the benchmarks in our white paper. All this can be found on GitHub, how we do the test and all this. So this can be reproduced on your own if you have doubts on it. So when you, on Alibaba Cloud Console, when you buy a ADB instance, you don't get an instance. You get like clusters of instances. There's, we call it node groups. You can have like two node groups, four node groups, six node groups. When you buy two node groups, you get two node groups. One would be the read node groups and one would be the write node groups. So we ran, for the white paper, so we ran three kinds of query, a full scan, multi table join and point lookup. So these are very common queries that Data Warehouse uses. It's very hard to see from there. But, okay, basically this is trying to say that ADB performance is awesome. So we're going to look at the white paper and check it out. This was a recent benchmark that we did. The, it's quite hard to tell. So there's a few things to note. Some of the query runtime we actually cut off at 250 seconds because in one of the query, I think it's query two, no, query one, MySQL actually took more than 10,000 seconds to run the query.  We tested this, we tested this against MySQL, Presto, Spark and Impala. We had to remove query five, eight, nine, 18 because it hit OM and Presto itself. You can see that most of the comparison itself, we're actually a lot faster. I'm talking about like magnitude faster. Of course, this is not 100% for Presto's and for comparison against MySQL is not very fair. The reason is because when you buy an ADB instance, you get like two clusters. Whereas in the MySQL itself, we actually create a big box that we added up all the instance CPU and put it in a single box and then do the comparison. So it's not like 100, it's not a full Apple to Apple, but for Spark, Presto and Impala, it's Apple to Apple. So we, whenever we do a benchmark, we always list it down in GitHub and the script so we can reproduce it if you like. Yeah, so I was trying to do bench demo yesterday, but I finished up my Iowa Cloud internal test account. So I basically screwed up my test account by using up all the credits. So I don't have a demo today, but if you like, let me know, give me an email address, I can get you a test account, you can test it out. Yeah, that's it. I have, that's all I have. Yeah.