Agile debate this morning in the studio. Dunkaroos or gushers as a supreme soccer snack. Dunkaroos. I'm gonna go with that this morning. Vanilla cookies with rainbow chip frosting. Listen, radio row and stuff doesn't start till next week, yet somehow, we somehow landed grump, wettle, Mitchell Schwartz, former chief, of course, to break down the trenches here, and shams, NBA insider. What is this radio row right now? Let's go. These are delicious. My God, Dunkaroos are so good. Welcome in to our show here. Do we have the tweet? Is that not what we were doing out of the break? I'm so confused about what we're doing here on Up In Atoms today. Gronk tweet. There it is. Tommy, since I already wrote you a long retirement message to last year, this time I shall say, welcome to the two-time retired club. Very funny. I love this post from Gronk and he joins us now. Our fan-dual friend who's been absolutely everywhere. Gronk, Dumois, this like gossip website that catches celebrity is catching you wearing some crazy green suit in the middle of Manhattan and ordering something from some store. Does you even know that happened? No, I didn't even know that happened, but I'm just wondering where my introduction was today. Usually you're showing my highlights, scoring touchdowns, ground spiking. I got no highlight film today on my introduction. I'm very sad right now. It's because you've never come in at the top of the show. So really, this is the better place to be. Like you are the star of the top of the show. They're actually saying we can roll it. Gronk says roll it. Roll it! What's up with you three? Now we're talking, now I'm excited and now we can do this little interview thing today. I'm ready to go now, let's go. Joining us now, four-time Super Bowl champ and fan-dual family member Rob Gronk-Kolkin. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Thank you. Thank you, folks. Thank you, folks, for hanging out with us today for a little bit. Obviously, Huge News loved your post on Tom Brady. I loved his self-awareness about how it's a second time, so he's not expecting the Derek Jeter, Mariana Rivera treatment. But how are you feeling about this? And it finally happened. Was it a little emotional or did you know for a long time already? No, I didn't know at all. I woke up yesterday morning about 10 a.m. and noticed that he retired about 90 minutes prior because the first time I checked some news to that yesterday morning, it was just all over the place. And Tom's just the greatest player of all times. There's no doubt about that. What's so great about his legacy is that he started from the very bottom and he worked his way up to the very, very top to be the greatest player of all time. Nothing was given to him.  And that's just amazing to see. That's just inspiration for the youth, inspiration for every player that he played with, his teammates, his family. He just got to the top, just putting in the hard work every single day and he definitely deserves the retirement. He deserves every athlete that he gets and he's just gonna do great off the field, just as great off the field as he did on the field. What is he gonna do now, Gronk, do you think? All right, well, you know, he's definitely retired now. I would definitely say so. No doubt about that. I don't think he's gonna retire a second time and come back before this year. I don't see that happening just, you know, just because he's been in this situation now. But he's got a lot of things on his plate. He's done a great job to set himself up after football. I mean, he has that podcast that he's doing, the Let's Go podcast, that's on series exam. He has the Brady brand with the clothing line that he has that has been just doing just absolutely just amazing. I pose in the underwear for him. I have the shorts, the shirts and everything. He did a great job just having, you know, just unbelievable material, just making it very comfortable just to wear his clothes all around workout and whatever it was. Sometimes I wear his stuff out to dinner. That's how comfortable it is. He's got the Fox gig to be a commentator.  He's gonna be a commentator. I definitely believe that fits him very well. Just his knowledge of the game is just second to none. No one's ever really, you know, heard him speak of the game, heard him speak of like how he sees the game. So that's gonna be very cool. Just him up in the booth to put his perspective out there. I mean, I was a part of it throughout my whole career and just the way we go in the meetings.  I can just meet up with him 30 minutes prior, you know, the day before a game and he can break down the opposing defenders that were playing that week in a heartbeat. He knows their weaknesses. He knows their strengths just like that. So that's what makes him so great as well as a player is that he just knows the game mentally and physically like no one else. And that's why he was so great and that's why he played for such a long time. It's really well said, Gronk. Are there any, I mean, you're like the Brady clothes spokesperson, by the way, they're available in Dick's sporting goods and I've got a partnership with them. So I love seeing that you can get Brady as easily and at pretty much so many locations across the country at Dick's sporting goods. We love Tom Brady, we love his clothes. Do you have any lying in those heaps of wardrobe behind you? Where are you from? All right, so I'm in my office slash wardrobe room right now it's Camille's wardrobe room. She actually just had her stylus over and once in a while I'm lucky enough to be able to put my suit on the rack right here if I have room to fit. So that's where I am. I actually, I don't have any Brady gear in here right now but I do have a nice, the nice long sleeve sweatshirt that's in my suitcase. I put it on, you know, when I go to step outside out in the cold up here in the north. Shout out to Brady, shout out to Camille, shout out to Danny and Alex who's styler who I love and adore and think they're amazing. So it's a whole family affair here with our friend Rob Gronkowski. I'll ask you this, I was at the AD for Brady premiere. Thought I'd see you. You're super busy and getting ready for next week with Vanduul and the kick of destiny. Acting could very much be in Tom's future. I was so, I don't know if you've seen the movie all the way through. At the end with him and Lily Tomlin and then you're of course there with Jane Fonda which we'll get to. Like Brady was kind of locked in. Like I could see a little acting moment for him. Yes, definitely.  I don't recall him really being in any other movies. I mean, I remember he was in, what was that? What movie was it? Oh, Ted too. Yeah, but that was very, very quick. Like a very quick scene. He was also in entourage, you know in the shows when I was growing up in high school I remember seeing him in entourage. It wasn't the movie though it was the shows. He did a great job there. But that was his really first time, you know just kind of, I'm pretty sure he produced the movie as well. He was part of it, of the producing team and also being in the movie. I mean, just put it this way. If he puts, you know, 20% of what he did into football but what he does, what he takes 20% of that and puts it into whatever he does off the field. If it's acting, if it's being in the booth, commentating, he's gonna be more successful than anyone else out there. Just put it that way in terms of perspective of how he prepared in football and going into his afterlife after football. So if just 20% of effort he puts in off the field then what he did the football he's gonna be that successful still. Just I've seen it with my own eyes just how hard he works. So whatever he does, you know he has magic it's gonna turn gold and he just does a great job. I mean, he works hard at whatever he's gonna do.  He loves showing up, loves competing at whatever he does. If it's on the field, off the field, if it's in sports or if it's, you know, acting or whatever it is, the guy's ready to go and just wants to be at the top and you gotta respect that, baby. Yeah, you guys just did this movie together. You told me before I saw it here on the show that it was so fun to hang out with him and Edelman and Dola and all those guys and it was a great moment. You had so many moments with Tom in your career on the field or off the field. So which is the scene in the Gronk Brady movie that you would submit that would give you the Oscar? Like what is the one memory of your career with him? Is there a little bit nostalgic this morning still I can tell about playing with Tom? Like what's the scene that really wins, that takes the gold? Oh, all right, like so you're talking about just one time, you know, throughout the decade we played together, what would get us the Oscar? Oh man, that's a tough question. Your favorite moment, just your favorite, like the thing that you would frame a picture of this moment with Tom Brady. Yes, okay, okay, I actually do have it framed. I'm just gonna put it that way. Yes, for sure. I mean the Super Bowl games and all that, those were unbelievable. Those will always go down in history but the one moment that him and I had together, it was versus Indianapolis Colts. I think it was in 2016 or 2017 season and it was the fourth quarter and he threw me an out route. And I turned it up, I planted my foot and I did a 360 and I turned it up the field, made a couple guys mess. Julian Adelman absolutely decked the safety for me to get me into the end zone to free me up totally. And I jumped up in the air, flipped into the end zone. And then Tom, I'm just celebrating in the end zone that all of a sudden someone jumps on my back. Tom ran full speed across the whole field and just jumped up in the air high as he could to celebrate with me. He jumped on my back and he went for a piggyback ride and I didn't even know who it was. Like I was just at that moment, I was just so excited. He kind of blacked out on big plays, on big play moments. So I kind of blacked out and then later on the next day there's this picture of Tom on my shoulder with his hide like right here next to me going for a piggyback ride.  Like just because in that moment there's so much going on. And it was just so cool to see that picture. It was my favorite picture of all time that we have together. I actually posted on my Instagram yesterday. First picture is us as Buccaneers and the second picture is when we're on the Patriots. And that was the moment when he jumped on my back. It's just a picture. It's a picture perfect moment for sure. And that's gonna be framed up with my house one day. And I'm gonna have them, that's the picture. Obviously I'm gonna have a, you know, a decoration of all players of jerseys and everything. But that's the picture I'm gonna have Tom sign personally to me with a note. Yep, this is the play. And then we're gonna watch Tom after. Yeah, oh, you see Julian's block right there.   Then I start flexing. And then all of a sudden I'm flexing.  Yeah. That's a picture perfect moment right there. Tom jumping on my back right there. So that was just, I think was our coolest moment. Like that was caught on camera. I mean, we have so many. This one just popped up in my head at the moment. And just to see him so excited that I made a play, look at that block by Julian though. You gotta respect that man. Julian's a dog, great block by him. But just so many great memories. Like it was hard to even, you know, pick that one to pick that one out of all of them. And because there's so many, I mean throughout, you know, the whole 11 years that we played together. But that was a great moment right there, a great time. But another one, you know, and then all the Super Bowls as well. You know that. Then the four, then the four. And then there's the derbies. I thought it might be a story that you might own with him too. Oh yeah, definitely the Kentucky Derbies. Maybe he'll be ready to go again this year at the Kentucky Derbies. I mean, the last time we went was after the Super Bowl versus Seattle. We all went, you know, it's kind of like another reunion, you know, for all of us that we all, when we all play together. Julian, Julian went to the derby. Amandola went to the derby. I went to the derby and then we're at 80 for Brady. We got Julian there, Amandola myself. So we just love getting the band back together. So there could be another possible reunion this year at the derby. I know Tom loves to go.  He's really into that stuff. It's entertaining. I mean, I think he's into it because he's been to the derby a couple of times. But, you know, whenever we can get the band back together, we always definitely try to. It's always a great time and great memories. Yeah, I love that. And who knows, maybe they'll pop up in Arizona where you will be the star. Maybe they'll cheer you on since you guys like these little reunions between all of you. 10 days away, Gronk. We've got 10 days until the kick of destiny. We've, listen, we've seen motivation play large.  People were saying that you can't do it, whatever. We've got the mayor of Cincinnati telling Kelsey he can't do it. Kelsey called him the mayor of Jabroni. All of this burrow head nonsense. Who's telling you that you can't make this kick? What's your motivation? You know, no one told me that I can't make the kick. Everyone's supporting myself. Everyone's supporting me. And wherever I'm going, people are yelling at me. I was leaving the restaurant yesterday. Two people yell at me while they're sitting down. Gronk, you're gonna make that kick. So everyone's motivating me. There's no one that came up to me like, Gronk, you're gonna miss that kick. It's Gronk, I'm gonna bet on the kick. I'm going for you, man. I know you're gonna make it. And what was really cool was that I was doing the Fox analyst stuff at the game in Philadelphia last week at the NFC championship game. And I'm sitting there. We're on the sidelines, obviously, because the studio, the outside studio is right there next to the San Francisco 49er sideline. And I'm just sitting there because we're about to go on there half time. So I'm standing there and Robbie Gold is kicking into the net. So I'm looking at him. I'm looking at his form. I'm studying him. I'm seeing how he's kicking the ball. The amount of reps he's doing, all that good stuff. Just seeing his follow through, if his toes pointed or not, where he's kicking it on his foot, all the good stuff. So I watch him kick like five in a row. And then he starts staring at me a little bit too. And we're like, we're staring at each other. And I don't know what he's thinking, but in my head I'm thinking like, yeah, I'm staring you down. I'm watching you right now, man. I'm studying you, Robbie Gold. You're one of the greatest kickers of all time you've run in the league for how many years. So then all of a sudden he comes up to me and he goes, you're gonna make that kick? And I lost my mind. I'm like, Robbie Gold, one of the greatest kickers in the NFL history is coming up to me, asking me if I'm gonna make the kick. And I just like, oh, it was mind blowing. I was like, you know something, Robbie? Robbie Gold, that's why I'm staring at you. I am studying you right now. So it was just an instant classic. And obviously I told him, I go, of course I'm gonna make it. I'm getting pointers from you right now. And my motivation to make this kick is for America. No one's doubting me. So I can't get that motivation. No one is talking garbage. But the motivation where I'm pulling from is that it's for everyone in America. Let's go. I gotta make it for America. It's millions and millions in bonus bets over at Fando. I don't know what's funny. Are you getting so juiced by Robbie Gold and him telling you that? Or the fact that I'm guessing it's the first time you've ever looked at a kicker that carefully. You worked with Gostkowski for like forever. But this is the first time that you really focused on what they're doing. And I think that's so funny.  And we were Polish power. He's Polish, I'm Polish. We both have ski at the end of our name. People got us confused all the time. I love Steve and he was a great guy. I loved him in the locker room. We always had many jokes. But I never actually studied him before. I mean, I would watch him kick and I'd be like, that's impressive.  But I actually never sat down and watched him kick it like eight times in a row and study exactly where he's hitting the ball, how he's placing it, all that good stuff. But I was doing that with Robbie Gold. That was my first time in history. I would just sit in there just, you know, reading the kicker up and down. Just, it's just incredible just how calm and cool they are. They just go up and they just kick that ball like it's normal and it just flies. 80 yards in the air and it's just like, wow, it's impressive. It's definitely an art. It's no doubt, it's an art for sure. Gronk studying the art of kicking. Here's what I heard. America, this is for you. Go to FanDuel. If you're not signed up yet, perfect time to do it. There's millions coming your way in bonus bets when Gronk hits it through the uprights. And what I just heard is that Gronk, you are taking this so damn seriously. You are in it. You are studying. You are juiced about this.  We appreciate you. We appreciate the nostalgia with Tom Brady, two of the greatest to ever do it. And I know that sometimes it probably gets boring to talk about, but like, it's greatness, right? So we have to celebrate it and recognize it when we have it. And I appreciate that you recognize that. Thank you. Yes, definitely. It is greatness. And yes, greatness comes with a lot of attention. So Tom, if you just weren't so great, man, you weren't giving so much attention. So just take it all as a positive, which it all is. And you deserve every bit of recognition time because what you did was just inspiring just for the youth, for your teammates, for your coaches, for your friends and for your family. So thank you for everything, Tom.  I love you, buddy. And you're just gonna have success from here on out as well. Beautifully said.  Everybody go watch 80 for Brady. Cracking up, loved it. Cameo from Gronk. Other cameos you need to check out. 80 for Brady to check it out. Gronk will see you in Arizona with the kick of destiny. Good luck. All right, take care. I'll see you there. This game is over. You can't doubt the Chiefs. You can dislike the Chiefs. You can disrespect the Chiefs. You're gonna have to deal with the Chiefs as the AFC champions. And for the third time in four years, the Lamar Hunt trophy is back in Kansas City for the Lamar Hunt. Are we in the midst of a dynasty? And just think about that, the Lamar Hunt trophy, Clark Hunt, they're raising it his entire family. Congratulations to them on another trip to the Super Bowl. And our next guest played a right tackle for nine seasons in the NFL. Five of those in Kansas City. He was a four-time all pro, becoming a Super Bowl champion. Gronk really wanted an intro. So here it goes. Mitchell Shaward, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo. All right, look at that. That's the best intro I've ever gotten. So well done. Super Bowl champion, Mitchell Shaward. Thank you for taking the time. You're literally the perfect person to talk to. Because your offensive line, it's all lazy. It's a good offensive line. It's not great. There's switch to the offensive line. I don't know. Nobody knows what they're looking at and you do. So that's very exciting.  That you're on that recliner, Mitchell, all the time. So will you give her a week of not being on the recliner?  Oh, no, absolutely not. We're not even gonna be here. We're gonna go and hang out with some friends and do some other stuff. It's not even a Pro Bowl, right?  I don't know, man. I don't know. You're in that all pro level and you were too busy in the playoffs and Super Bowls even know what was going on half the time. So I actually, I don't quite know.  So you gotta do what she wants one weekend before the Super Bowl. Where will you watch the Super Bowl? I'm actually gonna be at my parents' house and watching with them, which is, I don't know that I've ever watched with them at their house, because we always used to go to one of their friends' house for a Super Bowl party. And this is one of the first years. They're just staying at home and watching it themselves. And we're gonna be in town.  So let's, and hopefully they have a lazy boy for you. So it's, you know, the third one and four years for your Chiefs, you were on the 2019 championship team. So let's get into this, you know, and the 2020 team that lost to Brady and those Buccaneers in his last Super Bowl and before retiring. How would you rank those Chiefs teams against this current one? That's a good question. It's an interesting comparison because I think the biggest thing I think of is the defense and the evolution of the defense, you know, that Super Bowl season, we got Tyron Matthew and he was the leader of the unit and he was the one that brought all the energy. And if anyone's watched those miked up moments, I mean, they can't even put 75% of what he says on the field in a miked up segment, but the 25% is still pretty awesome. But obviously the Chiefs moved on from him and this whole secondary is young guys. And so it's their development. It's Chris Jones becoming a dominant force, one of, you know, probably best defensive player of the side of Aaron Donald. And even that's become a conversation which is kind of crazy to think about. And so it's their evolution. It's what Chris and those guys can do to wreck a game.  It's a bit different than it used to be. Teams are guarding it differently, but it's still just as effective. I mean, all the numbers, all the data show that the Chiefs still have the best offense. So you're still combining the best offense in the league with a defense that understands how to get to the quarterback, understands how to make time he plays and has young guys that are growing into their roles as well. You were, it's really well said.   In your eyes, as evolutionarily speaking, how has Mahomes grown over that time to become the quarterback he is on the field now and the leader? Oh, it's like exponentially better and, you know, you brought up obviously Veloster Brady, but the thing with the older quarterbacks, once they get into their 30s and with Tom into his 40s, is the knowledge just keeps increasing. You know, your body can start to, you know, degrade a little bit and maybe you can't move as quick. Maybe you can't throw quite as far within a velocity, but the experience keeps evolving and Pat's still 27. So he's just entering the prime years, that 28 to 32 region where he's going to be at his physical peak and now he's got five or six years of experience banked in his brain. And so he's only improved since his first year. I mean, the first year he had the gaudy stats, it was 5,000 yards, it was 50 touchdowns. It was, you know, one snap away from being in the Super Bowl, getting into that AFC Championship game at home against New England. And he's just improved since then and the stats might not bear that out, but when you watch him kind of snap and snap out.  Like those little plays, those add up and those are the things that he keeps doing better and better. It's so true. I mean, and that bingles run defense have them pretty much. You know, I have a horse, I'm a bangle supporter, I would have liked to see them go to the Super Bowl, but I also like watching greatness. And I think that we look at Mahomes and all these crazy things he does, they get lost in the shuffle because we're just used to them at a certain point. So it's nice to see him get the biggest stage again and hopefully get himself a second Super Bowl to sort of solidify what's going on there and confirm all these things that we think about him as his magical player and generational player. He's so special. And am I worried about the Chief's offensive line? Cause I'm watching this game Mitchell and all I'm saying is the man is limping. He's on one ankle and you bangles, pass rush. You can't get to him. Like you can't generate pressure. You can't like get your hands on him. You win the game. It couldn't happen. How worried should I be against an Eagles defensive line that's got some waves. They've got some power. What do you think? That is going to be one of the key matchups. And I think if you look on paper, you would say the Eagles D-Line probably has a bit of an advantage. You know, the strength of the Chiefs is the interior three and the Eagles have some really good players. And as much as, you know, we talked about the Hasan Redick plays from last week. I mean, Hargrave, Fletcher Cox, Sue, Joseph, those guys were destroying the interior of the offensive line and they were getting a ton of pressure themselves. And so it's strength on strength there.  I mean, those guys are really good players as well. And you'd probably lean towards the Eagles. And so from the Chief's perspective, you know, how much scheme help do you give to the tackles? Are you taking away from other areas of the offense to do that? You know, are those guys going to step up and just win their one-on-ones when they need to? But on paper, yeah, you'd give it to Philly. And it's, we've seen it over the past few years, teams that are tooling up to try to stop the Chiefs. What do they do? They focus on the front four and that goes back to that Tampa Super Bowl where, you know, we had a bunch of guys injured, myself included, but you saw the key to get to Pat is being able to rush with those four guys, throwing a timely blitz here and there, but the front four needs to do their work and to get there. And Philly has shown that they're able to do that at a crazy, crazy rate this year. So that's going to be a fun matchup. It's so true.    I'd be like, nope, I'm going to go get some coffee and not want to do this. But he's got this crazy offensive line with the Eagles to contend with it. You must, even though I'm sure you're pulling for the Chiefs, like as an offensive lineman, Marvel at that a little bit, right? It's so stout.  How, what makes him so special? Well, Lane in particular, I mean, he's always had like world-class athleticism and what he can do just in terms of his body. Like, I can't do that. I mean, he ran some crazy 40 time in the four seconds at the combine. You know, he's like a super lean 305, 310, just all muscle, his agility is awesome. His strength is awesome. I mean, you probably wouldn't tell guys to use his technique because his technique involves kind of absorbing some of the rush and then because of the double under, you get both hands underneath the defender and lift.  And then he gets his leverage. So it's not something you'd coach to a guy who's traditionally 305, 310. You'd coach that to, you know, Andrew Whitworth or some of the old school Bengals offensive lineman who were 340, 350 and Lane can do it at 305. So he's just nuts. And then obviously his ability to fight through the injury. But as you mentioned that the Chris Jones matchup against the interior of the Phillies O-line, that one is going to be the matchup because this Chief's defense, it goes basically as Chris Jones goes. And if Chris isn't, you know, able to have the same effect because the O-line is doing a good job, Spags has to start dialing up blitzes. Then it becomes a bit of a risky proposition when you're blitzing as much. So I think for Phillies O-line, you know, I don't think as good as they are. You can say, all right, we just, we trust our guards to win one-on-ones with Chris. Like he's so good that you want to give him extra attention regardless of how good your guards are. The thing that Chris does and the thing that we saw, especially last week is he destroys the second guy in the block, whether he kind of cuts him off because he beats the guy so quickly outside that the center can't even get there or he beats the guard so quickly across the face because the guards afraid of getting beat outside that the center like doesn't have time to get there.  So how Philly can kind of get those double team fits, whether they work in sync or whether it's kind of one versus one and then a second one-on-one, I think that's gonna be the biggest thing for their O-line and how to handle him. It's so true. And just dare Jaylin throw. Shoulder did not look good. They ran 148 yards on the ground, four rushing touchdowns, stop the run, don't let them run and make Jaylin hurts with a bad shoulder throw it in the face of 95. That's what, that would be my goal if I was Spags trying to do this. And Spags have, listen, these big moments, Spags dials it up. Like he, it's always so impressive what they are able to do, even with defenses that I have slept on in big moments and the Chiefs, your Super Bowl run, huge plays and he's just, he's not afraid. He doesn't care at all, which is amazing. Okay, I want your Super Bowl pick. I have a feeling I know who you're gonna pick, but I also want quickly the advice you would give objectively to any player that's playing in Super Bowl 57 on how to handle the Super Bowl. Think back to what that week was like, think back to that game, half time, whatever. Like what's the one thing of advice you'd give to any of these guys? I'll give two smaller pieces of advice. The first piece is you know who's coming to the game, you know which friends and family are coming. You can't see everybody and don't try to see everybody. You know, this is your week to play in the Super Bowl. And so you need to prioritize getting prepared for the game, being mentally fresh, being ready. And so, you know, see the important people in your life, schedule, you know, a couple hours at a time to see them, but make sure you get your rest, make sure you're not overextended trying to see everybody who's coming to the game. And then the actual preparation, you know, don't get bored. We were lucky enough to have Stefan Wozniewski who had played on the Philly Super Bowl. He was our left guard during our Super Bowl run and he was able to give us great advice, which is don't get bored because you're going through the same installation, the same plays that you're doing this week. You know, this isn't a normal bye week. This isn't an anti-raid scene next week. Like those guys are practicing this week. They're getting installs.  Now they're going to be watching Phillies the line, destroy people play after play. So you can't get bored with that. You have to stay locked in and you have to keep things as fresh as possible. And to the pick, I mean, if you look at it on paper, and we've seen this because, you know, the line has gone towards Philly. That was the initial line. I think Philly has the advantage on paper. You look at offensive and defensive lines. I think they had the advantage of both trenches. Typically games are one loss in the trenches, especially in these biggest moments against the best teams. But the heart says it's Patrick Mahomes, you know, since he probably had the paper advantage last week as well. And there's just something special about Pat and when he feels challenged. And this just, you know, I feel like last game was the Jordan flu game. And it seems like, you know, Jordan wouldn't lose the next game after the flu game either. So I think Kansas City is able to pull it out. And I really think it could be a high scoring game. You know, I think some of the data shows that Philly's defense isn't quite as good against the top tier teams they play offensively. And so I think there is some pay to be made there. And from Philly's offensive perspective, we just talked about the O-line. I think they do have the advantage. And I think they can, you know, slow up Chris and Spaggs just a little bit. So I could see something, you know, 34-28, something like that where it's a pretty high scoring game. It's a lot of fun.  I don't think they're gonna be afraid of the moment. So a lot of the times we see, you know, the first quarters, three-nothing and people are a little tentative. They work their way into it. I think these teams are gonna come out firing. Love that. High scoring game projected by Mitchell Schwartz who's following his heart, not his knowledge when it comes to the trenches. I can't blame you.  We'll see how it works out.  So stay focused and don't get bored, players. We'll be back. Thank you, Mitchell Schwartz. Either the Chiefs or the Eagles are hoisting that Lombardi in like 10 days. Unbelievable. Let's welcome back our friend who thankfully did not cause a firestorm on Twitter this weekend, at least as far as I know, Super Bowl champion for the show, Eric Weddle. Shoot, I love, I love stirring the pot. So I mean, does it, does it hurt? Kay, does it hurt seeing those highlights? Knowing your team is not gonna be there. Is it, is it, tell me, tell me how you're feeling right now. Tell me the frustration, the anger. Oh no. Just tell me, let it out. I know you wanna let it out. A lot of people want to, they just can't to me. This is your moment to tell me how you feel so we can move forward. I wish that you were on Monday show and now that I know you wanted to play this role, I wish you were there. I think Monday was the day for frustration. Monday was the day and then Tuesday is like, all right, let's move on. And like, I don't like wellowing in any feeling. So I moved on pretty quick. Like, I don't, I don't. That's a good trait to have in life. Yeah, so, so I feel, I feel okay about the Bengals. I don't think that they played as well as the Chiefs did. Mahomes was brilliant. He kept coming.  So they couldn't get to Mahomes, which was crazy. Given the circumstances, like how could you not, he can't even run, bring him down and stop him. So the Chiefs deserve to go and maybe they deserve to win. So we'll get to the game in a little bit but we've got NFL news, a friend of yours at the top of the news cycle. Let's take a look. Thoughts on Brady? Yeah, it's a, what can you say that the guy is a legend and the best to do it, to do it in big games and to lead and do everything right. Like, you know, it takes a lot to get to that level and I'm not near what he played at but I know a lot of the time and sacrifice that goes into it and just hit my hat to the goat. And I hope for the next step in his life that it's even better than the first because I know that's the way it is for me and to hear stories of other guys when they retire that they're happy and healthy and live in their best life. I hope that for Tom as he moves forward. Are you gonna call him up and say, hey, we've got a quarterback coach gave for you at Rancho or? No, no, I highly doubt if I shot him a text.  I would offer him the OC job if that's more enticing but that's really all I can offer. I can't really pay him much other than maybe a $1,200 stipend for the entire season. So it's all I can really do for him. I don't know, I mean, if he was, yeah, there's a joke in there about if he was still married to Giselle he could take a pay cut and do it but I don't know what the circumstances are anymore. So we'll move on to Sean Payton, it's all fine. Sean Payton, speaking of Broncos and your OC and quarterback needs, let's talk about the NFL Broncos.  What are your initial thoughts there? And is there a coach that you think Sean needs to grab and get on his staff?  Job he did with that defense, but it'll be interesting to bring Coach Payton in at this point in his career and in Russell's career. It's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. You know he's gonna put in the work and the time I'm talking as Russell, that's not something that he lacks by any means. So he's gonna give it his all. I just don't know if he can fit in that system, the timing, the accuracy, getting the ball out, hard play actions. Like Russell's a kind of a run around, make things happen. And that's what he brought to the table. So it'll be interesting. I mean, I think it's gonna be better. It has to be for them to make this hire and fork out all that money and draft picks. So Sean Payton's got a lot of work to do but I'm sure he's up for the task and he sure played his cards right. I mean, that's crazy. You can just, you don't wanna coach anymore and don't like the situation. You just hold out for a year and then boom, you're back in again and paid Buko bucks. Like that's kind of wild to me. Not everyone can do it but retiring isn't a thing anymore. Gronk was just on my show. He retired, I retired, came back. You came back. He will just, it's okay to take a little break I think. You just don't say you're retiring. Just say I'm gonna take five. I don't know what my plans are and then come back and we'll see. I mean, Sean Payton, I don't know if that's where he wanted to go but I don't know how he feels about it but I know that I'm sure he's scrambling to get the guys that he wants on that staff to make a difference. All right, let's talk Super Bowl 57. I need your pick but I also need your safety goggles on the matchup and I hope we're doing something with the trenches. Yeah, I think the huge focus is going to be the Kansas City O-line versus the Philadelphia front. I mean, it's by far the best front. The entire league, 78 sacks, just insane and coupled that with the number one past defense. So they're gonna have to manufacture some run and some first down positive yards but if they get in a third and long situation throughout this game where it's continuing to put them behind the eight ball, I don't know, I think the Eagles have advantage. I need to look top to bottom roster. The Eagles are tough. Got some talented guys. So I think that's a huge emphasis of this game. Can they protect my homes? Are they gonna affect the game, which I think they will and that's gonna be my pick for this Super Bowl is the Eagles taking it away. The Eagles to win Super Bowl 57. You sound really excited about that, Eric.  Eagles is too good and Chief Spangles was a great game back and forth. Bottom line is for the Bengals, they had their chance and they didn't get it done. And I love the fact that the players said that and didn't blame anything else or blame the coaches or blame the refs. Listen, you either get it done or you don't and they'll get better from it and they're gonna be in that moment many, many, many times and on the horizon for Borough and Company. We love it. We appreciate you, Eric Wettel. We will talk to you soon. You got it.  You gotta send Brady that text and just say, listen, got some opportunities here for you. Let's do it. All right, from Lettle to Choms, from NFL to NBA question mark, you know I don't know basketball, but Choms is gonna fill you in on trade deadlines. Is that what's happening? Ugh! Oh no, we're not, is this actual happening or is this cheesiness? I think our next guest thinks that we're gonna talk basketball but I don't really think we're going to talk any basketball. Senior Lead NBA Insider for the Athletic and Stadium, a fan dual family member who hosts Run It Back, our very own Rizga Choms this year. Hey, Choms. I can't hear her. Oh no, we have audio issues. We can't hear Choms. What's going on? What's good? Hold on, they're trying to figure it out. Choms, we have a poor connection. All right, can you hear me? I can't hear you. I'm sure you're saying amazing things about me. Hopefully they can hear me. Okay, it was Women in Sports Day yesterday. I just want to say a couple of things. One, we're the same age, we're both from Chicago, we're both Aries, you're a Missouri grad. That was in my top three, I just didn't go to Missouri. Your parents were immigrants, my parents were immigrants. I just wanted to say, you get your flowers, just everything you built, I have a lot of respect. I know yesterday was Women in Sports Day so congrats to everything you've done. Choms! Choms, what is this, is this like a prank and waiting for like the other shoe to drop? That is the sweetest thing that I've ever heard. Thank you so much. It was a big day yesterday. I just want to make sure you got your love, that's all. I didn't get enough love, but now I did. Now I feel very loved and you are just, you are amazing, I'm glad. I hope you can hear me, can you hear me? I can hear you now, thankfully, thankfully. Choms, you are the best, we love Run It Back. You and Chandler Parsons are absolutely hilarious. And I'm gonna see you on Friday so we get to hang out in Arizona. Fando has this crazy party going on on Friday night where I believe you're going up against another woman in sports who I looked up to a ton in Michelle Beedle.  I'm definitely nervous. I mean, this is, you know, we can keep secrets on the show. You, Marissa, Conrad, Richard, so this is, I know this show is not gonna get many views. You know, me and you, we don't get that many views. So I'll just say this on the show. I've never played beer pong. You guys actually broke the news to me that I'm playing Michelle or I matched up against Michelle. So I'm looking forward to it. It's my first experience. I'm a quick learner. I'm sure I'll win the whole thing, whoever I'm playing, I'll do my thing, what I always do. Choms, you're playing beer pong against her.  Well, I'm gonna go Chandler Parsons. He's not in the NBA now, but I'm going with Chandler Parsons. That's my guy. He's gotten himself in a little bit of hot water as the last month or so. He's gone at Utah Watanabe in Brooklyn. He's a Japanese player. He's gone at LeBron James with, you know, with the goat comment. He's talked about his dog, his French bulldog. So he's hit all demographics, but that's why we love Chandler. He brings his great takes to run it back. And he says what's on his mind. And that's why we love Chandler. I've never met Chandler. And you know, I don't even follow the NBA, but if I'm seeing the stuff that Chandler Parsons is saying about other people, you know it's broken through. Like, it's amazing. And so everybody has to watch Run It Back. And also, I want to talk about this because the NBA trade deadline is coming. And you have a trade deadline show for Stadium. I want to give this love here. It's Inside the Association Trade Deadline Special. It's presented by Fandle, which we love. And it's live exclusively on Stadium and Twitter, 2 to 2.30 Eastern, February 9th. This was a big success last year. What do I need to know? Yeah, we got a million viewers last year. This year we're going to bring it back. Pat Gherty, who's an assistant GM with the Pistons, he also played 10 years in the NBA. Quinn Richardson, they'll be our guest analysts. And they'll have me. So we'll be talking about all the news, analyzing all the news. I can't wait for it. And also next week on Run It Back, three days of shows. We'll see if some trades break during the shows. We had a trade, actually an injury break last week. So I think you never know what can happen in the NBA. I love that. Quinn Richardson, Marquette, player, is that true? I think DePaul. DePaul. I think DePaul. You've got to be up on your Chicago knowledge. Kay, I saw you saying LAK or New York K a few weeks ago. We want Chicago K. You've got to pull back in your roots here. Come on. You need it. I don't know Chicago well enough. When I'm in Chicago, you and I have to hang out. And then everyone can talk about it on NBA Twitter. OK, we have like a minute left. I'm going to get some, listen, you're playing Pierpong. So I'm going to serve you some things. And you've got to give me rapid-fire answers. I believe in you, Shams. You can get through this. Biggest candidate to get traded. Go. I'm going to go Pascal Siakam or Ojean Anubi in Toronto. Definitely the biggest names. John Collins and Jay Crowder are also very, very big trade candidates as well. I've never heard of any of them. Which team will be the most aggressive at the deadline? Let's go. Milwaukee, Phoenix, the Clippers, the Lakers. I think that's it. I think I'm hitting all of them. Phoenix. Better-seen NBA All-Star Weekend of the Super Bowl. I've never been in the Super Bowl, so I can't comment on that. So I'm going to go with NBA All-Star Weekend until I'm proven otherwise. I can't hear you. They love to talk instead of letting me talk to you, Shams. What a mess. I love you. Talk to you. I'll see you next week.


Talk a little bit about our patented technology. We call it the fluid data architecture, and we thought no better customer to do a joint press conference with on our fluid data architecture than Heineken. So the ultimate fluid data architecture is the combination of Heineken and Compellant.  So we like that there. So Heineken, Nelolend, is our customer here. We have Mike Rovers and Lucien Dekonic, and we're real excited to hear about their story. They're part of a global enterprise of customers we've talked about. We have customers in all industries, verticals, geographic areas. We're announcing actually this week, we're announcing our expansion of our Australian operations where we have dozens of customers already, but we're announcing the expansion of our Australian operations. And now let's take it back to the Netherlands and let's hear a real customer story about how VMware, Compellant, can really cut the total cost of ownership in a data center by more than 50% with the combination of our two efforts and also improve the operational efficiency of those data centers. And let's hear Mike and Lucien to tell us a little bit about it. Thank you very much, Phil. I guess I don't have to introduce Heineken as a company itself because we all know what the core business of our company is, brewing beer. Not only the beer, we brew great beers and great brands. That makes us the number one brewer in Europe and the number three in volume in the complete worldwide. We have over 200 regional and local beers and ciders in total. And when we look at our breweries, we have almost in every country, we have a brewery or it's, Heineken is deliverable. When we look at the Heineken International, we're a very large company, almost in every country, as I just said before, and we have 130, 140 breweries in more than 17 countries, which is good for a group beer volume of 200 million hectoliters of beer a year, as includes the ciders. When we look at the Netherlands, we have only three breweries, that's where it all started. We have 18 million hectoliters of total supply, but we're not drinking it all ourselves. The domestic market is only about 5 million hectoliters and the rest of the volume is going to the USA. So it's all export for us and that's where all your beers coming from. A nice touch is that we've introduced Heineken Light several years ago, that's especially made for the USA market because we don't drink it.


Yeah, all right, Coach Harbaugh. YouTube, what's going on? I'ma let Coach Harbaugh tell you who's bringing you this video. Yes, in Graven Viz, you heard it first from Coach John Harbaugh to Baltimore Ravens. I'm sure as many of you know, we went to the game yesterday since it was in Miami. We got to support our team. Sorry my voice sounds so nasty, but throughout the video, you'll hear why I lost my voice supporting that Super Bowl Champion Baltimore Ravens. Enjoy. What's going on, YouTube? We're here at the Sunlight Stadium right around the corner. We're getting ready for the game. We're here in Miami. I don't know why you did that. What'd you do? You start over. Show it again. She got Ravens and Dolphins. And the shoes to go along with it, too. Plenty of support, too. Plenty of support in Miami for Baltimore. So you just gotta come through and get this win. I know we had support, but I didn't think it was going to be like this. We're in Baltimore right now. Thank you for playing.


Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E-C-E-O. And I'm here with the lovely official, Ms. Jamaica. What's going on? Not my dad, what's going on? Say, man, we got a special guest today, man. I feel like I've been off work a little bit. Yes, you have. Man, we been, yeah, check it, man. Say, man, we here, man. We got my boy, man. Mr. Terry Blue is in the building from what? Dallas Global. Dallas Global. Man. Say, man, thank you for coming on the show. I appreciate y'all for having me. Say, man, so you've been in the game, see, along with another. We fresh, see. Yeah, so we kind of move a little different, you know what I'm saying? We trying to figure this out like, okay, you know, when I first put this together, my wife would tell you, I was like, man, I'm just going to do something where we can talk with our customers and, you know, and it just took off. Like, nah, that's just going to do more than that. A lot of people say because of the setup, you know what I mean? Like, the setup is dope. It's different, you know? So what did you think when you first came on the scene? I'll say this, when I first seen it on YouTube, I like how it was set up. I say, yeah, that's dope. Like, it's dope new podcast, you know? Yeah. I definitely was tapped in. I've been watching. I looked at yours for years because of certain things that would go on, man. The Charleston White thing, I didn't look at, I didn't not, even when Say Cheese was on here last week, a week and a half ago, it was like, I'm like, when you the only two done interviews, Say Cheese said, yeah. And then he said, no, no, Dallas Global. That was the first one I seen him on. So he shot it, he shot it, y'all, then in a positive way. So I ain't see that, I gotta tap in. Oh, yeah, I'll be, I'll be, I'm on it. And then I was like, you know, you're right. And then I step going back looking at it, you know? Cause I really just looked at the interviews that you have been doing, you know? When I first started looking you up after I started the research, you doing a great job. I appreciate it, I appreciate it. Y'all got some dope guests on y'all podcast early. That's what I'm saying. We ain't even asked for all this, bro. Yeah, y'all did. But I thank God for it, man. For sure. Yeah, so what, how did you get into this, man? Actually, like my, a couple of my homeboys was rapping, you know?  You know what I'm saying? I don't know if y'all curse on me. You know what I'm saying?  And then it was just like, I was like, bro, I'ma just promote the music. Cause that's what I was doing anyway. And then I just noticed other people like they music promoted too. So. I thought it called your dad. Big, big mogul. Man. He talking about my drunk uncle. He didn't even say, that's my son. I said, for real? No. He was like, yeah, that's my son. I thought the dude was serious when he told me that. No, no, no. He would have had to have him so young. I told him, I said, no, cause I hadn't, I didn't really think about him just cause I'm, you know, he be coming with it. Yeah, yeah. He looked so serious. You might take him serious. He was like, that's my son.  But now my dad, my dad actually, he ain't really like music like that. I listen to music all day. He used to really get on me about that. He ain't like it. Yeah, he used to be like, he used to tell me rap was fake. Like, from a young age, he always told me everything in rap was fake. And I didn't believe him until I actually started doing what I'm doing now. And I'm like, you know. He was fake. It's fake. Yeah, for sure. For sure. What was it that you would say that your parents wanted you to be?  You gonna be this. You gonna be that. My mama wanted me to be a lawyer. A lawyer? But my pops really just let me do, find my own way, you know? But he used to try to guide me like, nah, I don't do this, nah, you know? But I found my way. What was the first job you ever had? First job I ever had. A warehouse job. Really? A warehouse job. When did you realize that, that wasn't it? When I first started working out, I knew I couldn't work for nobody. Cause I only liked getting told what to do.  I got it, I don't like that. It'll just be too much for me, like. Cause it's like, you not even for buying by the schedule you put me on, but I'm watching you not a buy by the schedule. And I got a buy, buy, nah. Were there any other entrepreneurs in your family? Yeah, on both sides of my family is entrepreneurs. Like on my mom's side and my dad's side like, my great-grandpa, he own washers and bars and restaurants, stuff like that. So it's in your blood? Yeah. So Dallas Global, but he not from Dallas? Nah. So why that name? Man, when I, I shout out to Jennifer, you know, it was a girl, she had a Cypher in Dallas. It was called The Wave of Dallas. And she got a whole bunch of local artists to do Cypher's, you know, and it was like, it was real big. And I was just telling them like, I'm gonna start a blog, I'm gonna start my own blog. And I was like, I'm gonna just call it Dallas Global cause I felt like people was just sleep on Dallas for some reason. I felt like people would sleep on Dallas. And I was like, bro, it's a lot of stuff that go on. So I was like, I'm in Dallas, but it's global. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, we global with it. So that's, that's really how I started. Nobody liked the name. Nobody. Everybody telling me changed the name. To this day, people still tell me like, changed the name. I swear. That's a dope name. That's what I'm saying. Like, I was just like, that's how I felt. I was like, you know, I'm just gonna stick it out then. And it's so crazy because I look you up on Instagram and there are so many pages that say Dallas Global. And it'd be fake. Like a lot of people, if you had a fake page, like the Dallas Global too is not affiliate. Is that true? No, it's not. I don't like, he put it up because they snatched him down. Nah, I hit him up and asked him like, hey, can you at least change the name? Like, no, whoever on the page, I don't know. I don't want to say raw. One says, this is a backup page. Dallas Global Raw is mine. No, that is mine. But it's only Dallas Global TV and Dallas Global. I hit people up for boss talk. Like once somebody at first they said, no. I was like, you ain't used it in like years. It's like nobody is on this page. They was like, no, you can't have it. This is our page. Man, they be hating, man. I don't know what it is. This is crazy. Like bro, just let it have it. Yeah, like you're not using it. So what I feel like if we just work harder, it don't matter. Or when people tag you, always make sure you're tagging the right way. Yeah, nah, for sure. Everybody tag Dallas Global too. I gotta tell them, no, don't do it. Cause bro, it'd be a lot of, it's a celebrity's be tagging Dallas Global too and it's not the right page, you know what I'm saying? So it'd be like, it's just bad. What would you say is your like biggest interview? My sauce walk interview. Okay, okay. Was that early on? Nah, it wasn't, that happened last year. Really? Yeah. Well, how long you been doing this? Like three years. Three years. It happened last year. Last year, yeah. What made that one so? Man, it's just a classic interview. You watch it, he just really just. He poured his heart out. Nah, he ain't poured his heart out. He just poured his game out. Like it's a lot of game in that interview. He just said, how you feel? I'm gonna watch it. And man, people like, I was on Clubhouse one day, I was in the Clubhouse room with Sauce and somebody was like, yeah, I was just watching your interview and it was my interview. And I was like, damn, that's my interview. And he was like, yeah, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, it was just, that's the last interview for me. How did you get that interview? Man, shout out to Big Ant, Urban Politician TV in Houston. Man, I went down there. Nah, really it was ATM, ATM Jorge. But Big Ant ended up being at the studio. But I linked up with a Dallas artist in Houston and he was like, pull up, you know, we pulled up, chatted up. And I seen Sauce and I was like, bro, I'm not finna leave, you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm not finna interview him. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to get him on this show here in Dallas. Man, I for sure think Sauce would come do it. Yeah, yeah, cause we knew, and we rockin' with a couple of people that he been rockin' with. You know, DeRoe was just here and they got a song they just did together. Oh yeah? Yeah, and DeRoe invited us to come on the set. And I don't be goin' nowhere, bro. But he was like, y'all, come pull up and we doin' this shoot, we gon' try to do a scene here in the Houston. Okay, okay, that's dope. But I don't know if they did it, I don't add in there that they done it. I don't think they done it yet. He be in LA a lot, you know? DeRoe, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Shout out to DeRoe. Yeah, shout out to DeRoe, man. He did a good interview, too, for me. I like that. I gotta check it out. Oh yeah, he's a good people, man. Like I said, I just love doing stuff for the city, you know, that was my whole thing with Don, Chief and all those guys. I wanted to make sure if we was gonna do it, I respect, I'm like, I gotta get them on the show. That's how I look at it. I'm on the show. You know what I'm sayin'? If y'all pay the way to me and it's a good, pleasant pay, yeah, I'm rockin' with you. And we don't just do rappers, we do mental illness. Mental illness. I mean, any topic that can help someone who is watchin' because mics are powerful and there's so many people that are sittin' at home behind their telephone or behind their TVs, whatever, and goin' through a situation where they're thinkin' about suicide, thinkin' about hurtin' somebody or whatever and they could hear somebody pour their heart on our platform and realize they're not the only one who's goin' through that situation and this person here told them how to overcome it. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. Thinkin' of suicide.  Who was that? Man, Lil' Loaded. Yeah, that was crazy. Rest in peace with Lil' Loaded, man. I don't really know the full story behind it, but Rest in Peace with Lil' Loaded, he rocked with that as global heavy, so. Oh, so you have interviews? I didn't. And every time I see him, he'll show love, or he'll just, you know, just DM or repost somethin', he just showed us some love. Yeah, yeah, so. That's a hard point. Proud enough for E.B.K. Syrac, man, it looked like it's hittin' him hard, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, man. I just couldn't believe it when I heard it, when you told me about it. Yeah, these young kids, man, they goin' through just like, we had this one mother that she's supposed to come on the show who, her son was killed on accident, so those type of things, you'd be like wishin' you could step in and be able to interview him or talk to him before. That's what I'll be thinkin' about. This platform for me is a place of healing and talkin' to people about things that maybe it could change your outcome. No, for sure. And bringin' awareness, because even like whenever I spoke to Charleston White when he came on here, I asked him one question, because when I think about. Don't give that up. I remember, I hadn't put that video. Oh, I'm sorry, I forgot. You didn't get that part out. No! Oh, he's talking to you right in the chat. I never put that interview up.  Big news, bro, it's a lot of news. I'm like that. It's a lot of news that I could've broke that I just don't break. So what, okay, when are you gonna put it out? And, no, him. As in like, what are you waiting on? Me and like, are you waiting on something to happen before you put it out, or how does that work? I don't be waiting, but sometimes, it depends on the kind of content. Like sometimes I shoot and I be like, if I put it out right now, I know it's not gonna do what it's supposed to be. You know what I'm saying? But if I wait, you know what I'm saying? Now is a good time for me to put out this content. But what is the right time, though? What are you looking for? It's just, life just happens how it happens, you know, and life plays out. I agree with that. For like, life just happens how it happens. So I got a video right now, it's gonna viral. And I like, I didn't think it would go viral like that, but it really went viral. I've seen this video everywhere. And that video, how long were you holding on to it before you put it out? I held it for a day. Just for a day, okay. One day. Ain't nothing wrong with that. If you feel like, okay, I wanna see it. It went viral, like, it's everywhere right now. But you didn't realize that where it's gonna go? Which one is it? Man, it was about the promoter and Asian Doll. Okay, okay. It went viral. It went viral, like, it's everywhere, like, it's everywhere. I've seen that video. People is sending me the video. I'm like, damn. That's good. That's what you do. I mean, it is what it's like. I don't know, bro. I think people need to start creating the platforms more, like, you know what I'm saying? I feel like, like we need that credit. Like, especially if you go use my, you know. If you get a million views on my clip, at least tag me, please. I think it's something that God got something for you, bro. I don't think so. And when he got it for you, you can't nobody touch it in no way. I agree. So don't you even, don't frustrate the grace. It's all good. For sure. It's gonna happen anyway. You've done things that people never do. You're a brother that doesn't touch hearts and done things that nobody won't be able to do. So I think that's something you gotta, you gotta, man, you, it's different. You just gotta embrace that, man. For sure. Does that make sense to you? I do, it do. Man, somebody just told me when I was in Atlanta, I was the chosen one. Yeah, yeah, like, like, don't, don't, man, don't even pay, don't even sweat the small stuff. Yeah, it's small.  And we wanna see that great thing that's gonna happen anyway. Bigger things are gonna happen. For sure. So that's what we waiting on, you know? But then also you have your tag behind the person when you're talking to them, right? What you mean? Like. Yeah, his, his, like, we got unique hustle. You got. Oh yeah, y'all got my banner. Your banner and stuff like that. So even although they don't, they might not tag you people still know it's you. Sometime now. Sometime you don't get to, sometime in Atlanta. I'll be there. Your banner, yeah. I know it. I know it.  Like, at the end of the day, sometime you do, I'm a human.  Yeah, like, come on now. Give him a credit man. Yeah, like, especially when people just try to criticize everything you do. So like every little accolade kind of matters for real. But he's romantic. Or you say that. With your stuff. You love what you do.  Some people just do something they don't care, but you care. Right. So that's what I mean when I say that. Okay, okay. Yeah. So, but it's definitely, it's dope to see how everything's playing out in Dallas, you know, in the way, with the MOT3 thing and all the stuff that happened with all of that.  And that's what I look at. People like me, that's why we're here. Like we could throw dirt at everything. Like you say, I don't put this out or I might put that out. But at the end of the day, you should strategically do what you do. All right. Right. I try to be, you know.  People love controversy. People love controversy. And I'm not the only person that posts on my platform. So. A lot of stuff. How many people posts on your platform? I got like three people posting. We looking for more. Really? Y'all gonna push that thing? Yeah, we looking for more, but it's hard to, you know, it's hard to get people to trust. Yeah. It's been three years, right? Yeah, yeah. So that's a long time. So I see, that makes sense. So. You know. But how big of a team do you want? Oh man, like, to where are we going? Like, we growing like. You want to do it outside of Texas, right? Yeah. I want to be outside. We global, you know what I'm saying? That's right. So you basically all you're gonna still say, Dallas Global when you got somebody in other states? Yeah. I don't know. You see what I'm saying? I really didn't get that for you. I think he can still keep it. I think he can still keep it. Because you think about what I'm saying, you can have people that work for you in other states. Right. I know talking with, well, man, I should say that, but certain times you don't have to be where the interview is going on. I just say it like that. Right, right, right. Your audio can be there. You can have a setup and you're not even there. Right, right, right. So it don't really matter about. And then we in the day and age where like. Technology. Like how you say it. You can do a lot of different stuff, man. Anywhere. I can be doing another interview right now while I'm doing this one. Exactly. So you definitely right. But it's just when it comes down to names and stuff like that, it just, I don't know. You gotta get it figured out. I think you should keep it at Dallas Global because Dallas can be anywhere. I think so too. That's it. But I see, I got some stuff coming, man. Think about it. Dallas Global, New Orleans Global, it's you. Yeah, all of it me. That's what I'm saying. Okay, so you don't have to. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I got some stuff in the works, man. Just like how I built Dallas Global, I could build some of those. There you go. That's all I'm saying. And you just made me think of when you said you got other people that's posting and if they're in other states, this thing could go fast if you really look at it from a bigger perspective. You right. That's what I'm thinking. You right. And it don't matter which state it takes off in, I can create. Cause. A whole new market. And I can help that station by being connected to it. Cause it's mine. It's just, it's just things. Because when I talked to certain guys, I had rap talk. There's some guys, some guys came to me and was like, they want to do a rap talk 101. Okay. I was like, that's cool. And they wouldn't know. And these wouldn't know. These are people who have millions of followers already. Okay. And they wanted to. Man, so how you getting to the, what made you want to do the podcast? Um, I'm just a person who like to talk anyways. Oh, it's cool. This is something that's popping. Anything that's popping, I'm popping with it. That's all it is. I feel it. That's crazy. That's crazy, right? That's how you gotta stay relevant though. So I just, when the dove was selling, I was out there selling it. When it changed, I flipped. I feel it. You know, it's just times change. You gotta stay it, man. How important do you think it is to stay updated with the time? I think it's very important to ask you to lose. I mean, I'm an engineer too. So you gotta think about it. If we, we done a thing where used to it was with copper or twisted pair in the technology of communication. Then it changed to fiber optics. And a lot of the old guys weren't able to transfer into the new technology of fiber optics and data transmission. So it's just, you gotta be able to change with the times. Just like you see in rappers, you see older rappers. And when technology came where they weren't passing out CDs and all of that anymore. And everything, everything has to do with internet and being promote. It's hard. People that don't know how to use the internet. Seriously. Exactly. Think about it. And you have to step up. You have to, and it's not just in that. It's a lot of people that came transition when time changes, right? Facts. Even when it, yeah. What do you, so what, who would you like to interview? I was gonna ask him that too.  Who would you like to? Like your biggest interview this fall.  Right now, probably like Kodak, but. Kodak? He one of my favorite rappers. You like Kodak? Yeah, yeah. I like him too. I like the way he, he's just free. You know, free spirit. He just do what he feels. He do what he wanna do. I like that. No, for sure. And I mean, y'all just like how Kodak moved.  How many people go through it, bro? People go through it, but, you know, he just come back. I feel like Kodak come back harder every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he got pardoned this last time, right? He got pardoned. So he should be good now. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully. What's the... I heard you mentioned in one of your interviews, which I think it was Street, you mentioned about one of your realized street stars. That your site went down and you lost, which site was that? Was that your? This is my third page. I lost the page again after that interview. Was it Instagram? My third Instagram page. How do you think you made it? How do you lose it? Man, people report. I ain't known you. I think so, bro. Now at this point, yeah. Cause a lot of people on Instagram has been coming down, but... Do they contact as an Instagram? Instagram is like, this is their report that we deleted this. Like I've been disputing them as of lately, but posting signed artist music too, that'll get you... Signed artist music? Yeah, yeah. I get that a lot. Yeah, you can't do that. They'll delete it. Really? If you get too many of them, they will delete it. They will take it down. Take your whole page out. Take it down. So what do you do? Man, this girl actually just gave me the guidelines to get one of my Instagram pages back. Mine's old. Like this is old stuff I posted years ago. Yeah, they go come back and get it. They keep bringing it up. You gotta go disputing. Just go tell them I don't have the rights or just delete it. I just need to be deleting them. Yeah. I guess I'll start doing that. You got to. So they can delete your page for that old of a stuff? Yes. If you don't own the content, when you post it... Okay, but let me ask you a question. What suppose if when you interview the person, the person wasn't signed, but then all of a sudden they're signed now? They will still take it. If the label on that music now, if the label on the publishing that music, they will take it down.  They will take it down. Like, they go take something down. So, you know, how do we... And this is your third time. They just don't stay away from posting it. That's the best way to do it. Yeah, that's your third time. Terry Blue. You ain't got to worry about it. It's about you, baby. It don't matter. We up. They can't stop us, really. Man, you're like, see me? I just feel like I can't be stopped, like. That's what you better feel because you the man with the plan. You the man with the plan. You behind it. So you used to make another page. Let's go. Yeah, but I ain't trying to do that no more. I ain't trying to do that. That's why I work at it. Man, it is, it is. A lot of people buy their views, man. Man, I don't do that. You know I'm telling the truth. I don't do that, though. Bro, have you ever had somebody bought their views and came on your show and you like, damn. Nah, nah, but I heard about that. I heard about that. Somebody did an interview and they paid for their views and dude was pissed because he like, man, I ain't making no money off of these views. Exactly. The page just look bad. Bad. It just, don't do that. No, I'm telling you, people do it, they need you. And I found out you don't even have to be the one to do it. Somebody else could post it on ads and all kind of stuff. Yeah. I'm serious. I know, I know about that. I know. I didn't know about this stuff. I just barely got anything. It's something like these niggas tripping. It's just who you deal with. But you gotta look at the rappers, though. When you look at their stuff and you be like, man, this ain't got fake followers.  You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you told them, hey, man, don't do that.  Have you got into it with artists? Like, dang, man. Oh, no, fake views, nah. No, just period over. You got into it like doing an interview? Not doing no interview. Not in person. Or they get mad because you don't post their stuff. Whenever I had an altercation with an artist, it'd be via internet every time.  Or why you don't... We tripped out. I didn't know this was going on. Our DM is lit when it comes down to stuff like that. That why y'all ain't post this? Like, why we don't rock with them? Or why I wasn't on the list?  Like, my trail talk made the list. And it just don't help me. He knows me. You know, he been on the show. You know, it's a couple y'all. It's like, if you do a list and you gonna hit me, like, I don't care. Nah, yeah. It's not my list anyway. But if it was, I wouldn't put you on it. Everybody trying to make a list. You wouldn't have put me on it. Not you. I'm saying the person who hit me up in the DM, I'm like, nigga, why you... Nigga, I didn't see you. There's reason behind it. Nah, yeah, bro. Them lists would be better. You did a list before? Yeah, we make the best list. Come on, nigga. You need to do the list. Come on, man. We got the list. Now, your boy D, he did a gatekeeper list. And yeah, I ain't... What list did you do? Did you like his list? We collaborated on the list. Oh, you did? Both of y'all. The first and the second.  Let's talk about the list for a minute. Let's bring the first one up first. I wanna talk, okay, who was on the first list? We had hit that DJ Doug. What was hit that on that phone? Cause hit that gatekeeper. You think he number one gatekeeper? No, he was the number one. Who was number one then? J Prince. Okay. J Prince was number one. And with J Prince being number one, that makes sense to me. Who was number two? Cotton. No, no. Bey-bey. Bey-bey was number two. Bey-bey was number two then, Sean Cotton. What make you think Bey-bey is number one? At the time, man.  You gotta ask me. I can't speak on the list cause he ain't here to... Okay, you helped him with it though. I did. So I'm trying to figure out what is this. Gatekeepers is... I'm gonna bring him on the show. You know me and him, we rock. I rock with him. I'm gonna bring both of y'all. I wanna know why y'all made this gatekeeper. Man, see the gatekeeper. The second gatekeeper.  That gatekeeper is, that's big. You see he got the gear now, he got the whole gatekeeper called the line now. He didn't do his tripping. He got a gatekeeper called the line now, man, you know. Basically, that's not, that's a smart idea. I like it. It's dope though, huh? So, okay, cause Sean said, I don't know what that is. I said, yeah, well, your name is on it. What's up with it? I wanna know how do you get on that list like that? He said he don't know and he don't think that he should have been put over. He don't wanna be over, Jay Briss. Man, yeah, man, my partner called me about that, man. It was funny, man. So who was on, most of everybody was on the gatekeeper list. The first one was on the second one? Nah. Who got bumped off?  You gotta go look at both the list, man. Where are the list at, dawg? Give me a phone. You gotta go look at both the list. All right, let me see the list, bro. I don't know where the, uh... Bro, that first one, I don't know where it's at. I know the second one. I'm gonna find the first one for you, dawg. Cause I remember it when it was being talked about. I can look it up. So okay. Hashtag gatekeeper list. You niggas got a hashtag, gatekeeper. And y'all the only one came out with that, boy, you niggas didn't dial us something else, man.  Like, you really? Niggas, they don't say to him, it don't have dialers to just gatekeeper. You find it? Nah, I'm coming up on it. Yeah, them boys got them gatekeeper lists, boy. Man, but see, really, my list, my boss of our list beat them artist list. Oh yeah, they, that'll get you in trouble right there. You know what I'm saying? Like, we done dead. That's controversy. Me and BZTV shout out to BZTV. BZTV, shout out, I don't know who he is. Yeah, yeah, shout out, we come over the, I feel like our list be like, it be shaking stuff up, man, you know? Like, dude, what's the purpose of doing a list? So that you can bring visuals, no, so that you can bring value to these artists? Yeah, it's like, it's like really, when we do lists, it be like to just champion these artists, we see y'all working like, you know what I'm saying? Like y'all doing y'all things, y'all putting on, this is the main artist that's putting on for the city outside of the city. You know what I'm saying? These are our biggest artists and we wanna, or the ones who haven't made it out of the city, this is who y'all need to know because they are making noise. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. That's what our list is. And did anybody call you and say, bring with y'all lists, y'all lists up? All the time, but they be going up, though. But see, they put us on the list, Trio talk to them, yeah. And in my mind, I seen this list. I remember it. Yeah, that one was, that one was. Oh, BC on the list, but he wasn't on the second one, was he? Mm-mm. He only got bumped off. Why was he bumped off? Duffy was bumped off the second one. Jazz Prince was bumped off the second one, too. Because we wanna know why, so that people know what they need to keep doing to stay on there. Sauce on the second list. Sauce on the second list. Baby was on the second list, too, but he dropped down. I don't remember. I really honestly don't remember the second list like that.  Shout out to Mr. Hittay with that damn suit on, like he really.  Hittay, look, we're all in there. No, but, but no, I get it. So what make you, what made Sean Cotton jump up on the list? Do you know? Man, BD wanted to put him first on the list, on this list. He's, well, I, as I know, I know why though, because they, they got a relationship. Let's say cheese is a huge platform. But say cheese, and say cheese for the new generation. He's putting them on. He not only putting them on, but he's making a lot of business moves. So I get it, but Jay Prince is a patriarch, as I've already said. I told Big D that when he was here.  Yeah, Jay Prince is a patriarch. Like he, without him, South wouldn't even have the music like that. He influenced the whole South. That's a fact. Master P, they look up to this nigga. Yeah, I love Jay Prince, it takes a damn, I ain't a lot. No, no, no, Master P love Jay Prince. He said that he helped him. He wanted to be like Jay Prince. So you got to think about that. That's heavy because Master P was big. You know what I mean? Huge, still huge, what I'm saying is, so when you look at the South and the way that thing played out, Jay Prince can't be put on no list and put somebody over him if you look from the music standpoint. But it's other, I don't know what you guys are. Man, that's when we made that first list. That's what I was saying. I was like, bro, like it's Jay Prince, bro. Come on now. Yeah. It's Jay Prince. But say Cheese definitely is a, you know. Nah, that boy peace when you come down and do what he do. He the, you know, blueprint of the blogging. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So is that who influenced you to get into it? Not really, but I did watch him early on. Who influenced you? Nobody influenced me. You can't just start something, somebody, you've seen something. No, I watched Sean Cotton, don't get me wrong. When I first seen say Cheese, I was like, it was dope because he was interviewing like local people that I knew.  Like, what are you doing?   I really did it because we was rapping. I said, Hey, bro, I just start my own platform. Oh, really? You know what I'm saying? I just start my own. Well, you didn't do a good job. Let me ask you this. Who's your top three artists of all time? Cause you know, we asked that on here. Top three artists of all time. That are live. Get our live. Any genre. Any genre? Lil Wayne's. That's your number one? I'll say for me, my generation, Lil Wayne, my favorite rapper. Lil Wayne. Was my favorite rapper. No, no, no, no, no, was. I don't listen to Wayne as much as I used to. I still listen to him, but you know. But that's his number one. That's, yeah. Okay. And who, cause he from Louisiana. Let's go. Number two. Just my personal favorite. Yeah. Okay. All right. What currency? Currency right behind him. He dope. Who would have a number three? Any genre. It doesn't have to be rap. It can be rap if that's what you like. I like rap. Okay. Try to give, she's your maker, man. Don't fall for it, bro. Man, I don't know. That third one, be kidding him, don't it? I really don't know. And we talking about right now who I'm listening to Money Bag Yo. Money Bag. That is nice. I like Money Bag Yo right now, like. But I like, you know me, I'm a, yeah, Money Bag Yo fly. Gucci, man. The old Gucci, not the new Gucci.  That I've been thinking about here lately. Webby, my nigga. I think these niggas sleeping on Webby. Let me tell you something. Webby go hard, nigga. Go back and listen to Savage Life. Ain't no nigga rocketed like that, nigga, during that time.  Boosie had to come on with it. Webby was eating on that thing. Man, yeah. You remember that? He popped first. He popped first, but I'm just saying. Boosie, everybody was like, well, I listen to Boosie first because Boosie was PymC. I'm a PymC fan. So Boosie was really birthed by PymC. You know, like that was who brought him out. That was his guy. See, I ain't know that. Yeah. See, I ain't know that. When I was younger, I was just listening to Boosie. Boosie came. I know, I know more about Boosie than PymC. Yeah. Well, I'm telling you, PymC brought Boosie out. Okay. He'll tell you that. And he the one who made him good, made him. But still, when he brought him out, then they went and got Webby. I was still PymC. Okay. And what was the name of that? If they was out of Baton Rouge, but they was linked with PymC. That's how all that started. You can look it up. I know what you're talking about. I know what you're talking about for sure. But anyway, they'll tell you that. And the thing I can tell you is, when Webby came, my nigga, that like that and all that and doing what he was doing, it wasn't nobody else touching it. And that's why I'm gonna tell you something about me. I don't care. New York, shout out to my niggas in New York. I love you niggas, but I'm from the South. So when I listen to that music, I don't lie about the music. I'm from the South. I would never be, like you said, chance is cool, but it's not gonna ever affect me. Like the people who sound like me and from our culture, it's gonna be hard for me to flip over like that. Does that make sense to you? Yeah, not for sure. I can't lie to myself and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's hard. Yeah, Jay hard. Yeah, Kanye hard. They hard, but it ain't like Webby. I know y'all don't want to hear that. Man, I don't personally listen to Jay-Z with my popsicle. But did you hear what I just said? Think about what I just said. I know. I don't want to hear Jay-Z. OK, put on the same music in that era against what Webby done and during the time of Savage life. And you think Webby had the best project out of the whole time? Hell, yeah. What year that came out? Two thousand five. Yeah, it would have been by 2005, 2004. Who you like? Who you got? Wayne. Wayne was different. Wayne was the best rapper of all time at that time. He was commercial, my nigga. He was not like that first 2005. 2005, he was kind of. No, he got that skateboard yet. No, okay.  OK, but I just think Webby's with more underground, grimy, different. Webby with more street. That's what I'm talking about. Well, Wayne just had the like, I don't know what it was, bro. Wayne just had it.  He would help everybody. That's what made him the best. He worked harder than everybody. Right. And that's what made him the best. Yeah, you can't. You can't. You can't argue work. But you can't really. You can't just really say Wayne without Birdman. Birdman's machine by him and him and him and him and him and us. Slim. I agree. Did you hear what I just say? I agree. The business part. You cannot do it without the business flow. You cannot listen like this. You can't do it without the business behind it. You're right. You can. All that does not happen. So, yeah, Wayne had no talent. Do you think it would be the same? No, it would it would. Wayne's talent is what made it just epitomized. It made it go further than anything. But without that business brand behind it, behind Drake, too, behind all they do, you've got to have a business part.  You know this. My understanding. You can't do it without that. You can take some little dude. He got get the camera. I'm with, you know, Dallas Global. He not going to be like you because of what you know. You can be talented, but don't if you don't have the strategy behind the talent. You're right. The strategy is what is what, you know, everybody will see people will see you and love what you do. But you need to get everybody to see you. You know what I mean? A strategy is what makes that happen. Yeah. But you know this. You're a business man. I know that about you. I'm watching you, bro.  I've been had this business for over 14 years here. It's a it's a mind. It's easy after a while, the wheels get to rolling, but it's still business. And you always looking at ways to make it better, right? So that's that's what I see. So when I think about you, when you were talking, I'm thinking of the states. I'm thinking it's going because you can help more people. That's the way I look at it. It may sound crazy to you. No, no, no. I'm definitely on that. You see what I'm saying? I've been traveling. Yeah. And I travel a lot. Where's it further than you've traveled for the business? For a business as a Florida. I've been going to Florida. You like Florida? I love Florida. I got someone got to talk to you about when we get off here, too. OK, cool. I ain't going to say it online, but I got some coming up. I'm going to need your help on. Sure. OK. But I love Florida, man. But I didn't live everywhere. I lived in Pittsburgh. I lived in Pittsburgh. That's why you bought Jay Cruz when he came on here. He was from Pittsburgh. You know what? You probably bought right? No, he is. He talked like that, too. I remember. I think I remember him. You're in his voice. Out there. Now that I think about it. Yeah, he talked about that. But you don't have a Louisiana accent. I've been here for a while. Yeah, OK. I've been here for a while. Been here since Katrina. My people be saying, yeah. My people be saying, uh, I'm from Texas. Dallas, nigga. That's my nigga, man. Shoot, Chata Terry blew from Dallas. Now, you wrap us right, though. I appreciate you for helping the city, man. What you're doing is helping create waves and vibes. And it helps the whole, whole, whole situation, you know? For sure. So any more questions for my brother? Mr. Blue? Mr. Terry Blue? One more question. Out of all the interviews that you've ever done, is there any interview that you can say that surprised you because of what the person dropped on you? Like what they said? All right, really, boy. Bease, he do this. Nah, it's a lot of interviews I had like that. Charleston, for sure. Because everybody was telling me not to interview Charleston. That was crazy. Like, I hit my home bell. I said, because we just started seeing this video. I said, hey, bro, I'm going to interview him. And he was like, I don't know if you should go. I was like, man, I'm going to interview him. And I talked to Charleston for like four hours that day. Like, he came to the studio. I talked to him for a long time.  Like, keep it real. But I had another one with Chris Johnson. OK. He, uh, like he did, uh, he a business owner. He did. I met him in the club randomly. And he gave me a lot of game in that interview. And that was one of my favorite interviews to this day. You know, we definitely did get another one then. But, uh, like he did the clubs. You know, he does the restaurants and stuff. So I'll just tell you. This guy named, uh, like, say the Charleston White thing is, I would say that's one of my best interviews, too. You think so? The one I liked the most. Yeah. Hell, yeah. That's my god, man. I got to get into the Charleston White interviews. What's the name, like, uh, um, KLC? KLC, the B-maker? Mm-hmm. I did him. I liked him. His vibe was great. And he talked about all of them stories. OK. That was a good one. And, and Shannon Briggs, the two-time halfway champion. OK, OK. Yeah, I do. Now you got some heavy interviews. Nah, yeah, but I'm old. Yeah. Yeah, they going to rock with the old niggas. It's all like them.  Who else was it? You like, um, what's up? Sean Cobb was the, I loved his because he was genuine. He got a good heart. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Y'all got good heart. Y'all good people, man. Only thing you know, I get to ask him, why, you know, do you feel like you the one called this and that, and that, that kind of, because you be into a lot of stuff when you, y'all be in the, somebody could get killed right after they be off your show or something. Man, facts, and that's what I try to stay away from. I don't like that. Man, it's, bro, this weekend in Dallas has been so crazy. It was a lot of shoots, too. And I'm hearing about all this stuff that's happened and I be knowing all these people. Like I really be knowing them. So it'd be like, damn, like certain stuff. I don't even want to post cause like it, a lot of people be having so much going on. Like I could run into somebody today. I know you in the streets. You know what I'm saying? I can't even post that I see you here cause I don't know what you got going on the street. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Cause it could happen to you just cause I know people watching me. Exactly. So you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You be, that's why, I mean even Sean said, like when I come over here, it feels safe, it feels cool to be here. Cause we treat, y'all special to us. So we don't, that's why I don't invite certain people because the people I bring, I want them to feel like it's dope. When people hear that or feel like this is the Grove, they think something else. You know what I mean? But we be chilling. Yeah, they ain't even say the Grove, it's a bad spring. So I was like, ah, I keep hearing, where is the bad springs at? No, but it's cool. We done serviced a lot of people man in this store, man. A lot of people been here. And that's the good point. And we glad you came, man. We love you, bro. And now you respected, we're respected by us. And if you ever need me, I'm gonna pull up to you. That's what, see a lot of people come here like we've had like the top off for all them people. They're like, man, how come one of them ask, well, I don't know you. I'm like, dude, I don't move like that. We different. We move, we got our own thing going. So we ain't to be seen of it. We ain't worried about all of what's going on in the city like that. We more, when we meet you, it's genuine and it's real. So when we reach out to you, you be like, okay, yeah, cause they, it's 100. Whatever they doing is respect, you know? So now when your son reached out to me, I had told Big D. I was like, yeah, I seen the boss. He was like, yeah, man, do it, bro. Do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause he know, we love all of it, man. I said, I'm gonna do it. I said I'm gonna do it, but you know. If we just don't, we don't invite everybody. But my son did that. He know how I am. Cause he bring me a lot of people too. And I'd be like, uh-uh. No, sir. How I make the cut?   I look at that. Cause I'm trying to bring the city together. How you feel about that being like in the media, dude? You feel like we need to stop that in black media? I don't think it stops. I think it's the way you do it. I don't wanna, I won't say, somebody gotta do it, bro. Right. You don't have to be the one to do it. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? But somebody gotta do it. So I just thank God that I don't have to be the one to do it. We interview people from the heart, right? We wanna help people. We believe in God. We older. So we wanna be like a big brother. Like you come to us is love. Now you can pick to do the other part. Now I do say things about things that certain people probably wouldn't speak on. Cause I ain't, I'm yawning if I wanna know. I'm gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask you. You know what I'm saying? But a lot of stuff I don't care to know as well. So I should get too deep. It get too deep. It ain't my business. No. You know? It might cause too much controversy. So you just leave it alone. But at the same time, we'll talk about, even like when we had musicians come on, we asked them about putting positivity in your music because there's so much negative going on out here. And there's a lot of younger people who are listening to these things and taking it as real. So, you know, this is what I wanna do. This is, I'm gonna be bad. I'm gonna, they try to live this life like a celebrity, but it really, it's just fumes. It's fake. People need real role models, man. Exactly. They ain't got no role models these days. I did a podcast yesterday and shout out to, and I forget her name, 22 bands. Damn. 22 bands. 22 bands. That's her Instagram name. But her podcast really dope. It's, so let's talk about it or let me talk about it. And she was basically saying- My daughter tried to name this. Let me talk. Let's talk about it. I didn't do it. I'm glad y'all did it. But I did do it. I did it on some of my skits. I'll put, let's talk about it. Like on the flyer, it says, let's talk about it. Yeah, we'll say it, but we want, it was gonna be the name and my daughter wanted to do the whole, the name is that. It wasn't, I think it was at first, but then I went with Boss Talk on her one. Cause Boss's talk over here? Yeah, nah, fake. Big Boss Talk. That's it. Yeah, man. She was basically saying like that the internet is full of so much negativity and these kids are watching this and they thinking this is what's real. So it needs to be people putting out real. Yeah, people are putting out real or just, you know, how y'all saying just pouring it out so that people can, you know what I'm saying? Receive it. Cause you never know what people are going through. I don't want to stop, let me ask you this. That real tune guy, the one that I seen you doing the interview with. What, are you guys still rocking out like that?  Like y'all, y'all, y'all, he, he's a little different. Okay, it's not, I'm not, I seen the way they're doing it. He's more like inviting people to calls and they talking and you see them. Okay, and the reason his name pops for me is because of Trio Talk, No Peel Talk. And he had got into it with Rainwater over the East Texas Rappers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that East Texas thing is dear to me because I'm from East Texas. Okay, okay. See what I'm saying? Okay, okay, okay. It makes sense. So he was like, now he makes it, he's all swimming together. Yeah, cause Trio Talk, Trio Talk, cause I showed him a lot of love. C.C.P., all the people that have been on here. That's my people. C.C.P. done been on here? Yeah. Man, okay, shout out BZTV. BZTV be up on all the new rappers first. Yeah, yeah. BZ was telling me about C.C.P, like maybe a month, like I performed on 10-11 and he just, like now he's probably. No, C.C.C. called me like before, when he doing his show, he just went on Genius. Genius rap, yeah. He just was on there. Okay, okay. Yeah, C.C.C. was a good dude. He's a really good rapper. So when that happened and when old boy was like, I don't know, no country rappers. And that's what Reigns said. I was like, wow, whoa now. You know, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then I knew Trio was going to say something cause he passionate about our people, man. He put it on for East Texas. Yeah, cause that's the way he from. You know what I'm saying? He put it on for East Texas. So what did you think about his list? Cause you made it. I don't think- You were number two on the list. Bro, I don't think that list was too accurate. I ain't go live. Well, I don't even know, listen, I'm gonna be honest with me being on the list. I don't look at things like y'all. First of all, I look at my visuals and the way my setup is. And I'm like, I don't care about what they doing. Not no disrespect to it. It's all different lanes. I'm a podcast.  I'll just care about making sure that I can talk to my brother. You know what I'm talking about? See, it was, I don't think that was wrong with the list but people get like, like, see me, it's been plenty of lists that I ain't feel like was accurate. You know what I'm saying? And I just say, hey, I don't feel like it's accurate and move on with my day. You know what I'm saying? Cause your list at the end of the day- Is your list, your opinion, right? You know what I'm saying? Like with that, come on, bro. Like I'm living my life every day. Exactly. It's not doing anything. You know what I'm saying? So like whatever, however you feel about my brand or where you think don't mean nothing to me cause I know what it is. You know what I'm saying? Do you not show love these texts artists? Yeah, I do. And you from Louisiana, so I dare used to get on my platform. No, no, I didn't post it. Trill Talk didn't put me on something. Okay. Some female, I forget her name, but I like Smoothie. Smoothie is my partner. I like Smoothie hard. I like, she got a song with Lirani Mother Elf. Journey. Journey. Yeah, I like her. She dope. I like her. But I could, like Mo3 was going down there a lot. Yeah. He show love down there. Man, range is be talking sometime, but y'all got to stop. No, no, no, no, I'm talking about Fars, not just Mo3, but Pooka Leroy, all the artists from Dallas. That's what I'm saying. What I'm saying? Zero, all of these different people go to East Texas, bro. See Lirani broke down. Man, we was back south to Lirani Mother Elf again. Got my boy right there. He was breaking down like how the Texas rap scene works.  The first people that go book you is East Texas. It's not hot until you go that way. And then it spreads throughout Texas. And he, you know, so I know what's going on. I know what's going on. But at the same time, bro, like, I don't know, I ain't catching everything range.  I just, it's like, damn, you know, but every like range, just everything he says, it just get under people's skin. I don't know. Yeah, not me. But I mean, I just basically see him react or some people react around here. And I was like, oh, okay. Well, man, don't react over that. I call and say stuff like that. But people say things to spike something. That's really what they do. But I always tell them, don't react. If you ever get a call from me, it's gonna be like, hey, man, I don't know what's with that. I can tell you stories about people you would not, you'd be amazed at the people that I've called. To just say cheers. And they big, yeah, it ain't worth it.  To get a reaction.  It's bad, but... Okay, if we ask you to come back on the show, you gonna come back and check us out again? I definitely will. Man, you home now.  Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, I'm gonna come back though now, I like it. I wish we had more time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we're done with it. And we hungry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, check it, man. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to Boss Talk 101. And how can they find you on your real page? Oh, Terry Blue, Terry Blue, Two E's, you'll find me. Okay, and Dallas Global, what's the name? Dallas Global TV, it's Dallas Global. I saw so many different ones, I was like, okay, which one is it? It's just Dallas Global TV, we, sometimes we be shadow bands, so you might have to type in the whole thing, Dallas Global TV, and we'll pop up, you know? Same man, Terry, thank you so much for coming on the show, man. We love you, bro, we appreciate you. Appreciate you. Already, man. I'll let you boy, it's a unique hustle, man. And we out.