All right, we're live. I Could take this live on all the things Did anything then a huge news break? Mmm-hmm Three new modes revealed on Star Wars Battlefront, but it's still only in beta and Pepsi's launching a smartphone That one's just sort of keeps trickling out as as each news organization realize they have a hole to fill in their posting Yeah, that's one of those days. Yeah All right, let's do this. Here we go Hey, dad, can you love me a buck please? Yeah, sure Why because I want to donate to daily tech news show what how are you gonna do that? I'm gonna head over to patreon.com Slash ace detect and if you all like the show then you can donate to This is the daily tech news for Monday, October 12th 2015 I'm Tom Marra joining me today as she does most Mondays miss Veronica Belmont host of dear Veronica on engadget How's it going Veronica? Fantastic. Happy Monday Tom. Happy Monday. What a glorious weekend of baseball. We witnessed. Oh, don't get me Yeah, yeah, we'll leave it there. We'll leave it there. No reason to chase that story Also joining us Tim Stevens editor at large at CNET.com who is just back from SeaTac in Japan How's it going Tim? I'm doing quite well baseball also popular in Japan And I also have no idea what happened in the Japanese baseball scene or the US baseball So I can't help you there. So they weren't buzzing about it at SeaTac. No, no, sorry Mostly your components and circuits and such like that It was Utlery horrifying Kind of was kind of us. That's good. That's good. All right We're gonna talk a little bit about robots at SeaTac and maybe a few other things, but let's start off with some headlines Fred Star Fury Zeta even Abituele Kondolse all submitted articles about Dell announcing it will acquire enterprise storage company EMC In a deal worth approximately 67.1 billion dollars making it the second largest tech merger yet Second to the highly successful hundred six billion dollar AOL Time Warner merger Dell CEO Michael Dell will become the CEO of the combined company And EMC's federated approach to its subsidiaries will supposedly continue Including leaving VMware as a publicly traded company. Dell will own 28% of VMware in the new arrangement Now the EMC Federation currently includes VMware, RSA, Pivotal, Virtustream, VCE and something called EMC2 I'm assuming that is a second series of five-year missions with the same cast EMC has 60 days to find a better offer and a lot of people are starting to speculate if there could possibly be anybody With deep enough pockets to want to come forward and do that and the deal is expected to be closed in mid-2016 But this is this is Dell's play to become an enterprise cloud services company, right? Yeah, it absolutely is and it seems like a pretty natural fit actually. Dell's had really strong server presence already This allows them to layer more and more services on top of that And ultimately I think this is going to be a lot more successful than the AOL Time Warner merger that you mentioned earlier Even if it is slightly lower value Yeah and probably, you know, in inflation adjusted terms it's a lot lower value And I think that makes more sense. That was of the dot-com boom era This is Dell doing some interesting moves going private with Silver Lake as partners Silver Lake encouraging this acquisition, EMC looking for some kind of acquisition like this Gives Dell a lot of different ways to move, a lot of different subsidiaries they can easily spin out if it doesn't fit into the strategy So overall a very interesting move by Dell and going to turn Dell into something entirely different in the future I also think as a side note for consumers, it points to the commoditization of PCs I mean that is now settled. HP is splitting up into two companies That's their way of dealing with it and PCs are not going away, they will still be made But they will be kind of a side thing that you throw in with other deals Yeah, totally great Acer announced two new Windows 10 computers at a press conference in Taipei Both with improved speech accuracy and reduced eye strain The 14-inch Aspire R14 Hybrid comes with Intel Skylake processor and up to 8GB of DDR3-L system memory Available from the end of the month, the range starts at $699 in the US and 799 euros in Europe No UK or Australia pricing yet The Aspire Z3 700 all-in-one PC has a 5-hour battery, a kickstand and a 1920x1080 17.3-inch touchscreen display The Z3 700 comes to Europe by year's end beginning at 599 euros I feel like the Aspire gets most of the attention here because people are kind of hybrid tablet crazy this month With all the different announcements like the Pixel C and the Surface Book and the Surface Pro 4 But the idea of putting a battery in your all-in-one computer, I find fascinating I don't know if I want it or if I need it But for 599 euros, it's a luggable Is that what they used to call them? A luggable They did, yeah, the early laptops were tiny little displays that were called luggables In case anybody's wondering about the eye strain portion of this announcement Basically they're running a software similar to F-Lux on the Mac Which just kind of turns down the blue levels on your monitors So nothing particularly fancy going on there You can leave it on at night You can, sleep a little easier Yeah, blue light, blue light as bad You should know blue light within two hours of going to sleep It screws up your sleep cycles That science Keep that Nintendo off Facebook announced today it's testing new shopping features in its mobile app Including buy now buttons Users who tap on ads can go directly to shopping pages without redirecting to another site Businesses can also display items for sale on their own Facebook pages A new shopping section on the Facebook app will feature products from a select group of businesses So, I guess only what 2.3% of shopping is happening on mobile these days Something like that People are trying to get you to do more shopping on your mobile device Because people are spending more time on their mobile device Do we want that though? I feel like I don't want to shop on my mobile device as a way to stop myself from spending too much money It's very easy I mean that's one problem for me I do use a couple of different mobile shopping apps to varying amounts throughout the years When Guilt first came out, when it launched its mobile app I was on that thing all the time I hardly use Guilt at all anymore these days But I can definitely see Facebook with its massive mobile penetration Really blowing this thing up in a major way This also seems to point toward the continued segmentation of the internet Which is a little bit worrying Now we're going to have more and more ways to do more and more things And should I do my purchases through dedicated apps, through the website, through Amazon, through Facebook It's going to get harder to figure out how to use them Do you want more options? Yeah, options are good But it just means I've got to look more places before I finally buy that thing Cross shopping sucks Yeah, but if it's the same thing If you have the opportunity, if you're going to buy something on Amazon It's not going to really make a difference to them Whether or not you buy it on their website or on their mobile app Or if you're shopping on Everlane, if they have a mobile app that's good It's more convenient for the user But I think to the company, it doesn't really make that much of a difference how you get to the buy button Yeah, the seller doesn't mind so much But me as the consumer, if I like, oh, I've got Facebook payments on Facebook And I don't want to have to open three apps to shop around But none of the shopping comparison sites can get into the Facebook system to compare it So it does kind of nudge you towards locking yourself in, doesn't it? That feels like a bit of an edge case, I think I don't know if as many people are actually doing as much I mean, I could 100% be wrong here But maybe people aren't comparison shopping on mobile as much or thinking about that Yeah, well, they know you're right, they're not shopping enough, apparently That's the whole reason Facebook is trying to do this I think it's really great for that impulse buy market Where if you see someone talking about something on your Facebook news feed And you're like, oh, that t-shirt is really great All it does is it takes one click They already have all your payment information, they have your address It'll auto post your feed being like, bought this great new t-shirt So I think that's going to be really easy to use And very easy for people to start spending a lot of money Just tap to bankruptcy Yeah, there you go And Gacha reports Qualcomm is selling its augmented reality business to PTC An internet of things company PTC is buying the five-year-old Vuforia platform, SDK, and developer ecosystem Yeah, interesting that Qualcomm kind of jumping out of the business They bend over backwards in their press release to say that they're not They're not leaving innovative things Don't worry about that I think they're just realizing that this particular part of the business Is not where they're specializing Same way that Intel sold EnQ over to Verizon for video And PTC thinks that they can make a go of it So if you are in that Vuforia ecosystem Apparently PTC will just keep it going And you shouldn't have to change much I think this is more of a demonstration platform for Qualcomm To show off all the cool things you could do with their other technologies anyway So it didn't really seem like they were going to make a go Of actually being a profitable endeavor So maybe PTC can make it work Get ready for reram, folks Keep that acronym in your head It promises cheap low-power memory And HP and Sandisk have announced that the companies are working on New memory technology with a thousand times the speed and endurance of flash The new memory will be based on memrister technology Reram technology that HP invented in 2008 If that sounds familiar It's because just back in July Intel and Micron announced 3D crosspoint Which is spelled X-P-O-I-N-T But they insist that you pronounce it crosspoint 3D crosspoint memory is promised to have A thousand times the performance and endurance of NAND flash And ten times the density of DRAM Now this all sounds great Until you realize that You know what? HP did invent that memrister technology Seven years ago and they still haven't brought it to market And there's no release dates for any of this stuff yet I was going to go with ten points myself Ten point, 3D ten point That would be Gryffindor Yeah, exactly, thank you I really want this to be true I want it to be true so bad I'm so concerned that this is just going to be Vapor hardware At least in the near future Or it's just not going to work nearly as well As they're saying it's going to work Here's a fun story You may have heard of how Sanjay Ved Managed to buy the Google.com domain name For just $12 from Google Domains Which was of course immediately cancelled According to PCMag.com Ved was contacted by Google security A week later and offered a reward For finding the bug He asked that money be donated To the Art of Living India Foundation charity Google agreed and doubled the amount I couldn't find what the actual amount was Yeah, they haven't let that be They didn't post that So it could be a lot of money It could be, you know, a moderate amount They just gave him his $12 back Yeah, they're like, we're donating $24 To the charity No, I'm sure it was something pretty substantial But that, yeah, that was a Bit of a bug that he found Or a bit of a mistake there And from all appearances This is a hacker, okay A definition of hacker who found something Was like, ooh, does this work? Can I actually register Google.com? But did the right things with it Did not use it for ill Did not try to hijack anything He didn't have a lot of time to work with it Before it was rescinded anyway And Google doing the right thing saying Hey, you know what? That's a really scary bug You found, thank you for that And him saying, look, I didn't do it for the money Why don't you help out this charity that I'm interested in And Google saying, you know what So it's one of those rare instances Where I feel like Everybody did good things Smiles all around TVZgon says in the chat room That signs point to about 10K I don't know what his source is On that amount You know, it might just be like, you know All signs point to probably being $10,000 The Art of Living India Foundation Just wrote a $10,000 check for something Is that good? They wrote a letter on their website Thanks to Google for donating $10,000 We just paid $10,000 off on our credit card The New York Times passes along Larry Salibra's discovery That news saved locally in the Apple news app Was inaccessible while he was in China Now, that may not surprise you But listen to the details Salibra pointed out the issue last week on Twitter And elaborated in a post on Reddit Even though the news was purchased And downloaded in the US While connected to any Chinese network Whether it's called or not Even on VPN He couldn't do anything but see the headlines He couldn't tap to open it He couldn't refresh He would just get a message Can't refresh right now News isn't supported in your current region So he did some tests on the borders of Hong Kong Where he could connect to Chinese ISPs as well as Hong Kong ISPs And he found that when he was connected to the Hong Kong ISPs He could use the news app just fine So it didn't matter if he was using VPN It just disabled the news app Wow I heard a lot of people were talking about this story today So I'm not surprised to see it here But very interesting that Even it doesn't even work over VPN That's pretty surprising It implies that Apple is taking The precaution in China Of saying we're going to Detect in the operating system When you're connected to this list of ISPs And disable the news app when you are What you are connected to otherwise Yeah I'm trying to figure out how that works But yeah Well they would just use the carrier connection So it would ignore IP addresses It would ignore VPN It would just look in the settings and say What carrier are you on if you're on that carrier Well what about over wifi would that work Well it would probably see That's an interesting question He said he had it happen when he was over wifi In a hotel so they must have detected some other way What internet connection he had there That's a good point The next web reports OnePlus will begin assembling devices For the Indian market at the Foxconn plant In Andhra Padresh By the end of the year Foxconn will also build products there For ASUS and Xiaomi OnePlus India general manager Vikas Argwal said that it is Likely that those savings could translate To lower prices for customers in India Which is great Keep the Shipping costs down for one thing Absolutely And I imagine that the labor costs Are not that much different One way or another from China So good news for Fans of OnePlus in India Today Singapore Showed off a self-driving modified Mitsubishi Motors Corporation electric vehicle At the top speed of 30 kilometers per hour Car was part of projects Run by the Singapore MIT Alliance Research and Technology A.K.A. SMART Along with the National University of Singapore A.K.A. NUS In U.S. Two self-driving vehicles have begun Testing at a Singapore Research estate Singapore hopes autonomous vehicles Can encourage public transport Cut down on traffic congestion And even reduce the number of truck Drivers needed Which has apparently been a bit of an issue Drivers can be a big challenge for us Singapore has not Got a huge population And a lot of people don't want to drive a truck So sometimes they have a hard time Finding enough drivers One of the things that they're looking into Is a technology called pontooning Where basically one truck will be able to Autonomously follow another truck So you do have a human driver up front But then you could have four or five or six trucks Following behind it very closely All of which are automated To implement, Volvo actually had that kind of thing Working about ten years ago So that might be a pretty easy solution for them As far as this car goes, it's a version of the Mitsubishi AIMEV Which is the little EV that you can buy right now If you want to, but you'll have to drive it In the U.S. anyway, yourself You have to use your hands to drive it in the U.S. Yeah, feet too. Damn it. Even feet Like Fred Flintstone or just touching me Just the pedals I think this is great More and more regions of the world Are getting in on testing self-driving cars If you had to guess, Tim Is Google's 2020 Target of having self-driving cars Available for the public Maybe even too Too negative, too pessimistic Well, it depends how you define A self-driving car Volvo is going to have their self-driving car Available in 2017 actually But that car, you'll have to get on the highway And then press a button and it'll basically Drive the highway on its own It'll drive as long as you want But only on the ring roads around Sweden So that's going to be earlier than 2020 If we're talking about an actual car that you can get into And punch in your destination and take a nap Yeah, I think 2020 is Pretty reasonable in limited areas I think in the Bay Area we might see those in 2020 But me in upstate New York Is going to be a lot longer than that Because dealing with snow and leaves blowing across the road And all sorts of problems like that Those are very difficult situations Because a lot of engineers haven't even begun to crack it Veronica, would you give up your car If self-driving cars became widespread in the Bay Area? Oh, absolutely Yeah, I mean my car is worthless now Well, besides the fact that you have a diesel Audi Yeah Let's say you didn't Apparently the resale value isn't Tanking as bad as people thought But leaving that aside Yeah, no, I absolutely would I would just give up I'm kind of mentally prepared To give up a car in any case at this point Just because driving And parking in San Francisco is such a pain in the butt But I would be willing To give up that, you know I can just get I get an Uber and cabs now anyway And they take me where I need to go So if a car just came and picked me up That would be fine by me Yeah, I wonder I'm kind of thinking Within the next three years or so It's going to be time to trade in our oldest car And get something else And I wonder if I'll need To Yeah, maybe we just don't own cars anymore We've had this conversation before Times on the show, but I'm totally okay With the idea of, you know Nobody owns cars, we all just Call up a self-driving car It picks us up, takes us where we need to go And then picks up the next person And continues onward Except for Tim, because he's out where that might not That's okay, I like to drive Nice roads around here too, so It's just fine by me You can drive into the self-driving car hub And then take a self-driving car Yeah, you'll have to do, at some point Human-driven traffic and cities will be banned So you'll have to do that You have to park somewhere inside the city And take a train or an autonomous Uber Into where you're going Which might not be so bad either I think that would be a lot of peace of mind For me in terms of going to new cities And if I could drive to A car and go to a pub And pick up a car for the rest of my trip That would be fine, I'd be totally down with that If I didn't have to worry about parking Or paying cars, or like Figuring out how to get places I just realized that the pub industry Should be like definitely funding Self-driving car research Absolutely, big business for them Big business for Boston as well Because nobody can find their way around Boston So if you can't drive in Boston It'll be great I totally agree with you Submit your stories folks Vote on them dailytechnewshow.reddit.com Let us know what stories you'd like us to have In the show, it definitely has an effect on the lineup Go to dailytechnewshow.reddit.com And that is a look at the headlines Robots Every year there are robots at SeaTac SeaTac is in Japan Japan full of robots But Tim you were saying That the robot that captured everyone's heart Was also a cell phone Yes, he had a name His name was Robohan He's basically A little toy robot That actually is on the market already But Sharp kind of took that design And augmented him with Android And turned him into a smartphone They also added a camera To his nose basically And a Pico projector in his forehead So he's kind of like an all-purpose Multimedia device that can walk around And dance to the whatever music that you're playing But yes, he's a pretty cute Little guy He will take your selfie if you want to And then he can project your selfie on the wall If you're doing a video chat with somebody You'll project their image on the wall Like I mentioned, he can dance He's a pretty good dancer too And if you take a call, probably the best thing is He leans back and puts his arms up like this And then you pick him up And you hold him to your face And you can make a call on a robot baby thing I want that Why is this not a thing here? Can this be a thing here? Can we make this a thing here? Probably can. It will be available in Japan In the first half of next year They didn't give any indication of price Certainly they won't be coming to U.S. carriers officially But yeah, I'll bet you could import one Without too much trouble If I could have a little robot friend That could, you know, say my text messages To me It could take my calls for me A cute little dancing music player I think I'd really like that That would be fun. I mean, technology should be fun And we're so addicted to our phones And tablets at this point Yeah, maybe he doesn't have a screen That's one downside There's a screen on the back It's not a very good screen I think a two inch screen on his back It's a capacitive LCD It's big enough for about four icons We didn't get a lot of time to actually use him But it looked like you could launch simple apps And hang angry birds on there or anything But you can install apps and run them on there If you want to He's got the potential to be a general purpose There were a couple of weird things As I mentioned, talking on him is a little bit strange To hold a robot to your head And he actually whispers in your ear When you're talking on him, which is also a little bit weird The other thing is how do you carry Robohon We saw a lot of sharp representatives Walking around with him In these little slings around their neck Effectively A big clock instead of a big clock A big robot hanging around your neck Like a little sling Like a robot Bjorn And just sitting him right there in the center Or he could be on a little hip You could have a little hip flask Holder on the side there Stick him on the side There's fashionable ways around this problem But that was it, he's very cute But yeah, no plans for US release yet So big with the ASMR crowd Because he whispers in your ear And you talking to his feet I'm gonna say charitably That seemed to be the weirdest part to me I mean, aside from just holding a robot To your face That not bother anyone else?   That's actually real And it's actually real, yes Perfect, sorry, I didn't read your article, Tim That's okay I didn't need it But that's, I'm okay with that I mean, why are we not We always dreamed of having robot helpers And we're finding all these weird ways around Just having a robot That you carry around with you I don't need AI, I don't need Siri Like, why did we skip past The physical robot helper In our homes? Yeah, I think it's always been a question Of cost of having, you know How much is it gonna cost to have a life-size Robot walking around the house That can do things for you That's something that they're definitely working on In all seriousness, in Japan They're older and they're having a hard time Making sure that everyone is getting the care that they need And so having a robot caretaker is a very big And important thing in Japan But ultimately that was surprisingly not something that we saw In this year's C-Tech for whatever reason It just wasn't a big theme in this year's show Although it typically is But instead we saw Robohan Who's maybe not quite so useful But certainly pretty cute Now on the useful side, you did write up about Laundroid From Seven Dreamers Laboratories Panasonic and Daiwa House The idea They say they have a roadmap That by 2020 they want to have it So they integrate this thing into your house You dump your laundry into shoots It's automatically cleaned, folded And reappears in your appropriate drawer Or closet What they demonstrated on stage At C-Tech though wasn't exactly that, was it? No, it was basically a glowing door In a very ominous looking black cabinet And basically they had a woman Take a white shirt Which was all rumbled up And she stuck it into a drawer And then she turned around and spent five minutes talking to us About random things Market share and investment and that kind of thing Meanwhile the robot was presumably behind the door Doing its thing And then five minutes later the door opened And out folded a, not quite perfectly But pretty nicely folded shirt anyway We were allowed to take a peek behind the curtain And see that there was indeed a robot back there Folding that they just had an individual hiding back So you saw the robot in the act of folding You saw the robot In the preparation for folding They wouldn't actually let us see him doing the folding But there would have been no way to sneak somebody in there To make it happen But they were being very, very careful about Other companies seeing there As you can imagine, pretty difficult tasks To have a vision system Look at a rumble of clothes and figure out What type of clothing it is How it should be folded And then of course to take the next step And identify who owns this piece of clothing But it did pull it off And five minutes seems like a long time to fold a shirt But it also takes my rumble Four hours to vacuum Something that would take me 20 minutes And that's okay because it's doing its own thing You can imagine this running all night long Who cares so long as your laundry is done in the morning This is the first step They want to have 2017 this model Available to consumers which is basically you dump your laundry And it comes out The next step would be you dump all your laundry And it gets washed and then folded A whole home integration where everybody has Their own closet with a shoot You dump your laundry in as it goes And it just pops in your drawer or fold neatly Clean whenever you want it Does it know What kind of washing that particular article Of clothing needs I'm guessing there would have to be some kind of A system where you tag and you enter your clothes Into the system so that it knows who owns this shirt And how it should be washed and that kind of thing You could do RFID in the collar stays Yeah, you certainly could There's lots of intriguing possibilities They really didn't want to talk too many details At this point for a variety of reasons Probably because they don't know the answers to a lot of these Probably because it's not real yet Exactly, but there is a huge investment By these companies at Dawa House It's Japan's leading manufacturer of homes Panasonic, of course, is huge And they've invested a lot of money to make this work So I think we'll see it I think 2017 might be a bit optimistic 2020 probably is too But they're definitely trying to make it work Well, it sounded like it was a little Thin on the ground for robots at CTEC Yeah, there were a few walking around But there weren't really anywhere near as many Just last year there were dozens of robots Walking around But literally Last year, for example, there was A velociraptor robot that was walking around And a bunch of others There was one other ping-pong playing robot But that was actually just an improved version Of one we saw last year It was strange, not as many robots as we used to If you had to say what the CTEC big thing Was this year, what would it be? Big thing Well, it's always all about components And so the big thing was always smaller, lighter More efficient Probably some of the cooler things we saw were on Display technology I think probably that was the biggest thing We saw some new curved and freeform displays Basically displays that can be any shape you want They don't have to be square, they don't have to be circular Those will be in next generation cars So you can have kind of a round display That fits in the center of your dashboard That's pretty cool And higher resolution displays too We saw one that had a 918 pixel density Which was a 4K display that I think was only 9 inches across Which is kind of ridiculous if you think about The number of pixels in that thing But the idea being you put that in a VR headset And suddenly you've got this amazingly clear picture In a tonnable display, which works well We saw 8K displays, 10K displays For the first time too So display technology was probably the biggest thing And so for people who don't necessarily know CTAC is larger than CES Is that correct? I think in the past it was At this point it was actually hurt quite a bit After the effects of the tsunami a few years ago So it is rebounding now Which is good to see But it's interestingly much more of a component Focused show So while we do see interesting concepts And crazy devices walking around Usually they are there to show off Some new sensors, some new semiconductor And hopefully be appearing in next year's phones So while there won't be that many consumer Products launched at CTAC typically You'll see a lot of components that will show up In next year's consumer products So it's a great place to go to get a kind of a sneak peek Of the devices that we'll be seeing next year Alright let's get to our pick of the day Rico from Belgium Noted that Eric Olander on Friday Was talking about how Africa is getting a couple more Submarine cables connected to it And Rico says Want to see which ones they are From one continent to another How many cables are connecting continents What's the bandwidth between them All of that and much more is on Telegeography's submarine cable map At the unwieldy But accurate URL of Submarine-cable-map-2015 .telegeography.com We'll have the link in the show notes as well Rico says definitely check out their web version But better yet get the printed map I have a big one in my office And it is a geeks delight That is a cool site I saw that posted on reddit last week And I was clicking around That is a very fascinating site to see How everything is connected Or not connected in some cases You can kind of see where those connections are And if you keep looking at these kind of maps Over time you'll see how Africa used to have one cable One submarine cable going to it Now as Eric was talking about on Friday Multiples Making bandwidth possible In ways that had never been before Leading to an explosion of video Broadband services especially in South Africa So this is really cool Thank you Rico for sending that along And you can buy that wall map as well It's a very pretty map Maybe I should put one up Oh that would be cool Tom You should get that for your office Send your picks to us Feedback at dailytechnewshow.com You can find my picks at dailytechnewshow.com Couple more of these And then I'm going to call the end And I've gotten even more of them in my email But we talked about How there was the clue Map Or the clue app that was allowing People to report infrastructure Problems and we've continued To get them from all over the world Hey we've got that too We got an email that says I can't find the original article But there's a city in Mexico And they tweet back when it's been Fixed Which is about as transparent as you can get And then we also got Asmund who wanted to point out He is from surprisingly foggy Trondheim, Norway And says you talked about the app clue in Indonesia There's an open source initiative Which has been going on since 2007 Called fixmystreet At fixmystreet.com Which lets you do this in the UK Both through a website and through apps Including Norway, Sweden, Germany Australia, Canada and many others I've used the Norway version Several times myself and it's both easy to use And the response is usually very fast Really enjoy the show, thanks for that He listens to it when he rides his bike To and from work Probably really easy to spot those potholes And things in your street that need to be fixed Which would make that really handy I did not know about fixmystreet.com That's fantastic And there's also a version for Detroit called Go on there in Long Potholes And all sorts of other issues So here in the US too And if you did not hear me mention The one that you wrote into me about It's not because I didn't get it It's not because I didn't read it We got so many of these I had no idea how widespread this was So if you haven't heard of one in your area Go check around Check out your city government site Maybe do a search on some kind of local social network Or something There was a large sinkhole In my local park Last week And I called the parks department And they came and fixed it Which app did you use I used a phone I looked up the phone number And then I called them I believe it's cross platform Wow really I talked to a human And then amazingly They're sending someone to fix it in person That's an actual human thing For now Doesn't seem sustainable somehow But I'm glad it worked Three years the robot will get in the autonomous car And drive itself to there And then fill it with copies of ET Maybe to fill in the sinkhole Human bodies maybe That too We won't need them anymore Finally Tyler wrote in and said Last week Veronica mentioned that she has multiple Home automation systems running in her home That's what she is Could I ask her which system she is using And her general favorable Unfavorable opinions of them I told Tyler I was like look That could be a whole show in and of itself But do you have a couple of things That you use and like that you could throw out there I just want to say I'm getting the sense From listeners that they think that I'm not on On Mondays very often I haven't missed a Monday in like three months What's the deal? I'm here It's Monday I'm here I showed up I saw that side eye face Anyway We have Nest We have the Nest camera system And also the temperature control system We used August lock Which I'm not a huge fan of Actually the newest version The newest version of the app Has made a lot of improvements that I found But I maybe have shared The story previously on the show Where in the middle of the night Because the phone or the proximity sensor Would just unlock the front door to the house At 2 o'clock in the morning Or at 4 o'clock in the morning So that was obviously a not optimal experience We have since turned off The proximity detection For the phone because the bedroom Is within you know within 40 feet Of the front door because it's upstairs of it So that was an issue but they've solved That pretty much and we also use The Chamberlain garage system Doors and apps For that as well but that's Those are pretty much the main automated systems We have in the house I only use lifex light bulbs Which Are okay, I don't like having Having to go to the app to turn them on And off sometimes but that's An implementation issue on my end I could put in some smart switches as well I would like more lighting systems I think I would like To automate in the house at some point And I use the Nest which is good Yeah we don't have That aspect built in yet What about you Tim? Do you have any particular ones you use and Mike? We have a nest as well We haven't really taken the next step to go with the next Nest protector or anything like that We haven't really found Nest to be particularly effective For us because the way our house is shaped It can't really figure out if we're home or not So that's a bit of a challenge Have a couple IP cams and that kind of thing Although we are working on, we just got chicken So I'm kind of building out a smart chicken coop Slowly but surely So we're going to have things like A door that will be able to be connected To a Raspberry Pi system and go up and down Putting a webcam in there and some other things like that So the coop will be smarter than the house and they're not Smart chickens I don't know about the chickens, I think the chickens are going to be pretty dumb But the house that they live in should be alright Smart for chickens maybe But yeah still chickens Well that is it for the show Thank you Tim Stevens for joining us man Especially given the fact that you just got back And you're still Adjusting to time zones and all that sort of thing Really appreciate it Always my pleasure, thanks for having me I did I was 12 hours ahead for a while That was pretty nice That's right folks, you've got to look at the future today When everyone was worried about the world ending I knew it wasn't going to happen That's right, I forgot about that I'm glad it didn't end If you want to find more about Tim Anything in particular to let folks know about going on over there Boy, you can read my Coverage from C-Tech on there as well And I'm going to be kind of quiet on there because I'm going to Detroit And shooting some fun things next week But I can't talk about that, so sorry to be vague You're under the non-detroit Agreements I will be improving Detroit with beautiful cars That's all I can say Awesome, can't wait to see that Veronica Belmont, what do you got going on? The huge Tom, the usual No just non-disclosure agreements No, nothing NDA-wise We've got a couple of good interviews coming up on Sword and Laser Catherine Valenti is going to be on the show A new episode of Dear Veronica And on Gadget every Wednesday Send those questions in using the hashtag Dear Veronica And NaNoWriMo is coming up Before we know it, Tom Are you going to be doing your NaNoWriMo? I'm prepared, I'm ready I've been working on my story ideas You're not supposed to be No, yeah, I do There's no wrong way to do it I think of the story ideas ahead of time So that I'm ready to hit the ground running Tweeting at me about it and posting Facebook messages So I feel like Bonnie Burton So I feel like it's, I gotta Gotta get ready, gotta match Bonnie at least My body, absolutely Well thank you to all the patrons Who make our show possible We couldn't do it without you If you get some value from the show And you give some value back Thank you very much, if you get some value from the show And you haven't given us anything back Will you consider it? 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It's close to 90, it's probably 88, 89 It's 83 here today It's like 60 here today so Ooh, that's nice Must be nice to have actual fall It's pretty okay, the leaves are changing It's beautiful, well I guess I can try turning this around No, it's sort of See, there's leaves out there anyway It looks lovely That's my view, it's pretty okay Not bad at all I give up the Ken from Chicago and the chat room is pointing out It's not exactly an either or choice, you could get a car that can be self-driving and human driven Absolutely So you could go for that, be able to tool around upstate Yeah, in fact I was talking with Maserati at the New York Auto Show this year and he was talking about the transition from one to the next and what they want to do, they're very much a car company that makes luxury performance cars and autonomy is going to be the next luxury I think We got some show title ideas at showbot.tv Dude, Dell's getting EMC for those classic Dell commercial fans Tapped to bankruptcy Which, you know, I said it so I like it Dell equals EMC squared I like for whom the Dell tolls For whom the Dell tolls That is good ReRAM, it's not bad Breaking news in China Oh, that's clever Very clever Veronica used those special parts to make her robot friends I don't get it It's a line from Mystery Science Theater Jill used those special parts Robo Bjorn is pretty good too Robo Bjorn, I like that one That's on top Wow, Robo Bjorn shot to the top Oh, jeez Special parts is good though, as a Mystery Science Theater fan That's got a good method Jenny would say it's too long It is pretty long Maybe Robo Bjorn then On phone first It doesn't make any sense, but I like it Hey, Greedo, I'm going to shoot you Talk to the feet Oh, the feet Good Why are you here? Yeah, don't get that one I'm missing that because Captain Jack has usually got really good So it's probably just too subtle for me right now Why are you here? Why are you here? Why are you here, Captain Jack? Captain Jack will get you high tonight Take you to a special island Everyone's got the no news Good news says China But China didn't say that Apple said that No news is good for us not getting in trouble Apparently Robo Bjorn Robo Bjorn Yeah, I think Robo Bjorn It's my favorite Now The elephant in the room here This is episode 2600 But it's not really Because I made up the episode numbers I got a couple people like It's episode 2600 That's great, oh my gosh The Atari 2600 thing The 2600 magazine All of that And yet it doesn't mean anything I asked Tim Why are you here before the show started Because of the jet lag That's what it was That made sense Couldn't figure it out Got it Why are you here? Why are you here, go to bed I wouldn't be here I feel like we're providing Tim a valuable service And keeping him awake You are, yes When you travel as much as I do You get used to the whole thing I don't really get jet lag To even go into Japan That's amazing Last night we'll see how I do tonight Alright, wow Your body must be really messed up How does the whole control thing He's always mad, I'm just always tired I see You sleep in a bed of blue light That's the problem Did I mention I have cheap LEDs In every light in my house The whole house glows blue all night It's like the mattress is infused With blue LEDs that just shine up I think they help regrow The hair as well And they also improve blood flow And all sorts of other wonderful things That's not true Alright, but I should get rolling Yeah, absolutely, well thanks man Appreciate it as always And it's good to see you, Veronica Bye, you too Take care everybody, bye Bye Tim Wow, Scott announced that they're not doing Nurtacular this year Are they working on a new IP? Since 2017 Is going to be the 10 year anniversary They want to take some extra time To plan something really special I knew it was a blizzard excuse Wow, that's crazy It's just a lot of stuff He's just busy, all his projects No, that, you know what It makes sense, and he is I joke about the blizzard thing, but he's doing He's taking a cue from blizzard which is like We're not doing BlizzCon this year because we want to do it right Or not do it at all, and we're doing all these other things And that's what he's saying, you know what I want to do the next one really good Yeah Really good It's sad though What am I going to do with all this free weekend time In the summer next year We could all just show up In Salt Lake City anyway Hey guys, you said you were busy But we're here anyway Maybe it's leverage over snowbird Like, you'll miss us You want us back No, you do You know what, you can help me move Where are you moving Don't move, where are you going The baby's asleep She looks cute Yeah, I'm not trying to talk very loud That's okay Passed out You got big strong arms, Veronica I do That's pretty good So is your neck okay Because I remember reading about the Yeah, it's not I mean it was okay, it's better now I can work out and go to yoga and do normal stuff But every morning at like 3 o'clock I wake up and it's totally clamped up And I have to like I can't get comfortable again I have to like lay flat on my stomach With my head all twisted and weird positions Do you do the Do they give you stretches to do No, I was supposed to go back to physical therapy But I haven't yet Do you grind your teeth I have a mouth guard and like a nerve No, I feel like This is probably pseudo-science Let me just say this ahead of time I feel like there's something What the mouth guard does is treat the symptom I feel like there's something with Posture and neck pain And teeth grinding That has some kind of related cause Stress Stress aggravates it But I think it's like Even if you're stressed, if you could Underlying The way that your body carries itself It would solve all of those problems It would solve most, but it won't So this is about my chiropractor Of course I'm not going to say a chiropractor There we go, I go right back to my original Well no, but he said That in the cases he's Treated cause I went to him like three times Cause I had the same thing Veronica had He said that the problem is A lot of people are using So used to sitting in a desk in a computer On the end of the day No I'm sure that aggravates it You form this posture That is irregular for your body And what happens is your head tilts forward And if you think about how much your head weighs Depending on how big you are My head is probably about 20-25 pounds Even if you tilt it forward Off it's balanced access You're putting a lot of strain On your neck and your upper back The one thing I know is when my dentist told me You have definite signs of grinding your teeth I started paying attention to it And I realized that when I kept my My neck in a different More upright position My jaw relaxed And I was less likely to grind my teeth Especially sleeping at night What he told me is that When you walk You need to look up It's a natural tendency because of smartphones And things for people to look down Look up and what happens is You start kind of pushing your body It feels like you're looking up But yeah, you are looking forward But yeah, exactly But it feels like you're looking up But you should look forward If you're depressed or suffering from depression symptoms When you're walking If you keep your shoulders back And keep your head forward You can kind of trick yourself Into feeling a little bit better Instead of like kind of walking Like scratching But yeah, it's like doing power Poses, you know, being like I'm big and important in this meeting Like Hello, I'm here for the interview now I've always noticed When I put on a suit Or even just a jacket I tend to want to stand up Straighter It feels like, oh, I'm in a suit Yeah, the jacket is kind of a straight jacket It's designed as Well, I guess that's true too But I feel like there's a psychological effect as well Well, maybe we'll have to plan Some other kind of fun family trip In July Or June Instead of Nurtacular Well, TVZ gone was saying And I haven't watched the video or anything yet But that he's going to rent out A theater for the Warcraft movie And so go back to Nurtacular's roots In other words And just do that It won't be a full Nurtacular obviously But he'll at least be doing A frog pants related thing That would be fun Yeah That's not, that is not Replacing your family trip Your July family trip We'll figure something out, we got some time Yeah, maybe I just won't go anywhere next year Yeah, that kind of sounds nice too After so many years It really oddly does Like if you tell me But Tom, you'll miss this I will be sad I don't like anything I go do Just the idea of not having To go places in general FOMO is always a factor for sure What is? FOMO, fear of missing out Yeah Well, that's how marketing works Yeah Don't miss it You won't want to miss this episode of Daily Tech News Show Will you want to talk into the feet of a robot? The answer may surprise you Don't miss the next DTNS Well, do you, Roger, do you remember Which segment it was That Prager wrote The answer may surprise you I used to write it before he even got hired No, I know, but he wrote it once I think it was right after we all had a discussion About that particular thing I just remember The Lotus Notes calendar entry for it And everyone just laughing The problem is we used it for everything And I think maybe it was because he was new And people didn't realize I don't know That show After Josh Gingold left It wasn't the tide of ship Oh, now Well, no, it was just because now Website was pretty good Yeah, I guess Time makes things seem Better, Tom Sav Okay, cool I'll work on Doing all the stuff I normally do And then opening the door for my landlord in five minutes Okay Yeah, I'm still just uploading But we're pretty much done if you guys need to go Yeah, so Other than Jenny out all week Is there anything special I should be aware of? Veronica's here When you're going to visit me, Veronica You never want to visit What is it?  What do you want me to do here? Yes, that's what you're supposed to do Just go visit People that are your friends At their house What are you even talking about? What is that? What is this, the 1930s? The 1980s I do get to your neighborhood Somewhat occasionally You're not that far From his neighborhood You could walk to his house No, I couldn't It would take like an hour No, it would take 45 minutes I used to walk to his house Up in Crescent Heights I will say That walking that distance And back again Has really firmed up my Would you walk to the Glen Park BART Station? Me? Me?