The- oh, well, ah, the crazy, the lovely brass ball is on this man. The first suggestion he has is just batshit and say to Dizzy like, well, whatever. Well, I heard that his plans for the sequel, his own sequel scripts, like, right, were a bit far out there. He was going to go into like the wills, which are like the gods of the Star Wars universe and stuff. Have you heard that? Those rumors? I heard there was some crazy stuff where he plays like, they go inside of bodies to shrink themselves down and talk with the metaphorians or something like that. What? I don't know. I know. What's that? What's that old movie where they shrink themselves down and go into the human body? It's incredible. Honey, I shrunk the metaphorians. I'm picturing little cells with like high pitched voices as well. And yet, and yet better than the sequels. We are the metaphorians. We speak for the Jedi. We teach you the ways of the force. We don't give it a shot. I know we would. Why do you say force like that? We do it for impact. See, it already sounds like a very interesting story, does it not? I'm intrigued. I want to know now. It can't be worse. Oh my goodness. But why? Why must you say this, Brinkman? Why? It can't be worse. Yes. Why do you hate? Why do you hate? No answer, see. Oh, it's so hard. I'm so afraid of you. Sorry. I'm pretty sure that's lagging big time, so I miss all that. I was just asking why you must hate on things. Leave Disney alone. They didn't, they didn't do nothing. Leave Disney alone. Disney didn't do nothing. When in reality, they did a lot of things. Not the funnest of things as well. Disappointing things. You know what? Hey chat saying hi. How are you chat? I was going to say, I can give you some questions that were left over for you. Let's get a few random ones. There's a couple of comments in the comments. I haven't slept much guys. Leave me a like. But just to answer those. No, my surgery is tomorrow. So this is my last big haram before I'm out of commission. So enjoy it. Yes. Let's make it a fun one. What a fun question to begin with. Check out this wonderful super chat that I save for you. Chad, for your next book, please get a real publishing house to get you an editor. No offence, but your story had all the ideas, but died in execution. Wow. Yes. It's a valid opinion. I disagree on certain levels because there are some like, you know, choices that I made absolutely on purpose. And some people didn't like it. Like, for instance, the more expository nature like mine is what is considered a hard fantasy where the reasons behind how everything works matters. And it's important to understand it and things. And so some people try to say, well, an editor would have thought like obviously would have cut those longer expositions and stuff. And at first, when I heard those the feedback, I was like, yeah, maybe right. But actually, since then I've hired like a really good editor to do a second edition of the book and we've recently completed it. And so I went through like several rounds of additional editing on the book because there were some like little things that even I was like, all right, I want to iron out those wrinkles and stuff. And went through beta readers all over again and stuff. And when it got back to those things, I kept them in because it's like, I like it. And there's a lot of people who really enjoyed the detail of the world building and stuff. And that's just that I decided, you know, this is the style of book I wanted to write for this one. And so there is that. But if other things are bothering people, well, yeah, there is a second edition that the editing is already completed. And in terms of like a proper publisher release, right? There's something in the works as well. So when I was talking to Brandon Sanderson, he actually suggested that I have my book a get it a print only publishing deal with one of the smaller presses. He did this with Emperor's Soul. And he recommended his own agent is like, that's a great idea. And I wanted to wait until the second edition was done. And now it is done. I've sent it to Brandon's agent. Joshua Bilms is a champion and he currently has the manuscript and is looking through it. So so yeah, there are some cool things happening on that front. That's nifty. Let's have a look here. Well, I guess this could be a follow up. Chad, any advice on marketing a book? Have a YouTube channel. I feel like you may have said that before. Yeah, I'm sure that helps. It really does help. Like that's one of the reasons I started YouTube, not the only reason, but having, you know, an audience. And I was very lucky with, well, not lucky, but I was very intentional with a subject kind of theme of my channel because basically meant anyone who was subscribed to my channel had a very good chance that like the themes, but also the genre of my novel and stuff, you know, fantasy sorts and everything. And so that meant basically my YouTube channel was not only it was a good marketing platform, but it was targeted marketing. It was targeting targeting an audience that was like perfectly, you know, it would be interested in my novel.  Nothing. Oh my God, you did it for free? Whoa, I haven't paid. There are small things I paid like IngramSpark. They do the print book. They give you the option of having your book featured in their catalog. And it's like $150 or something. It says, yeah, that sounds good. I paid for that. I haven't done any Amazon publishing everything because I mean, I get to advertise for myself and the value in that is tremendous because my current rates for how much, you know, I charge like other companies to advertise through. It's significant now because of the size of the channel. And I get that for free. And so the comparative value of the of the advertising I've been able to give to myself is over $100,000 now. So it's crazy, but I can do that free because of the YouTube channel. Shadow businessman right here.  He teaches more than one lesson in Shadow Verste. You're going to build one of them eventually a university called Shadow Verste. Well, that's what my YouTube channel is really. The end game. I love the decentralization of information, the freedom of information and stuff. And so I don't think I'd ever put myself, you know, behind a payroll. This is why I would never do a skill share course or anything like that. Because I love the fact that you can get information for free. And I just want to encourage that, you know. And so I wouldn't ever really make a exclusive kind of university thing or anything like that. I just put it out for free on YouTube. Well, why don't you do the prank invasion thing for $30 a month? I can teach you how to pay actresses to make videos with you. God, the amount of scams like that you can find on the Internet for the low low price of $59.99.  This novel brought to you by Rain Shadow Legends. Yeah, the most ambitious RPG of time. Sorry. Yeah. I know it's been hilarious because I'll be, you know, of course I watch all the streams and the rain coming up everything and listening to it. Now I have my, I have my time. I can talk about raid. Oh, here we go. I turned him down. Like, oh, this man here. Yeah. I know how much they're paying sometimes too. So that's really quite. Yeah. And Mike War of Clans like mobile sponsors. War of Clans. Look, no shade on guys, you know, you advertise on them because I understand the whole YouTube. It depends. We mock. You can throw some shade. Jovially. Yeah. It depends. I just like that.  And especially like some of I won't say which one specifically, but they purposely misrepresent, you know, like millions of people are playing it. It's like, what, what live active players? No, that's not happening. The most played games is like Fortnight and stuff. And they don't have a million concurrent players. You're talking about downloads, but no, they always want you to say millions of people are playing this game. It's like right now, this very second, including me, and you can play with right now during this video. And then they want you to play the game. I'm like, no, you look, if you want to pay me, you just recommend it. And I won't. I don't like saying it's good because I personally, personally for me, I hate mobile games. And so I'll say, all I'll say is that, look, there are a lot of, if I haven't, because I have done one Vikings War of Clans, but I didn't like it. And then I've turned them down since, right? And it's because I won't say it's great, but I will say, look, some people enjoy it. And and if these people enjoying it, there's a good, because my wife likes mobile games as a matter of fact. So I know. I like it. Yeah. What? A horse? What? What? You said someone, did you say something about horse? I don't think so. I don't know. Okay. I don't know. Yeah. But so some people like it and so if they're going to pay me just to let my viewers know that this game exists and there's a chance that might like it. That's that. You know, I was willing to do that. Then they want you to say, I play it and you can join me in the game and it's the best thing ever and all this stuff. Yeah. And don't, don't, don't forget to mention your favorite character as well. Yeah. The Orc Barbarian. Yeah. All of the interchangeable characters, all the women with their tea on the chess plates. Like it's just, I don't, when somebody is there like, oh, this is comparable to the greatest, to the biggest RPGs on console and PC. It's like, yeah, the Witcher three cyberpunk 2077 skyrim and Raid Shadow Legends. Hey, listen, Raid Shadow Legends is the citizen cane of mobile games. All right. Yeah. I just like the whole, there's that meme. And I swear this, this meme came out like six years ago where it was just like all the words that get into changed on the something of something. Like the two something's always, always change. And this just loads of selections. And I'm pretty sure Raid Shadow Legends is the next one. I can't wait for Raid Shadow Legends too. That's where it's really at. Yeah. Raid Shadow Legends is so good. How come there's not a Raid Shadow Legends too? And I guess the thing that's going to be called fighting daylight heroes. Yeah. I guess the thing that's just like frustrating is everybody now like acknowledges that, you know, and all the ads are like, we know you've heard of us. Like, so why are you doing this? Why are you injecting with this? Just give it up. You have to imagine that they've reached like critical mass in terms of, is there anybody who hasn't heard of it who is willing to do something with it now, you know? Well, I mean, the thing is that's lost me. We had the Victorian age, the classical age, the information age. And now it's the Raid Shadow Legends age. It's just a professional of our species. I think the best one I've seen, like the sponsorship I've seen for Raid Shadow Legends was the Internet Historian's one because he just takes the Nicky out of it. I like the one that Flash Skits does. I'm surprised they left it into it. Internet Historian's one go, honestly.  Which I'm surprised they let him do it, you know? If I was ever to do another mobile sponsorship, I would want to do it something like that where I actually personally take the Nicky and I'm kind of nodding to my own audience. Guys, you know that I don't really like this game. I'm just doing it for the money. Raid Shadow Legends. I love this game. I'm playing it. It's a mobile game. I'm playing it. My favorite is it's a changeable archer lady with no like armor at all. Number 16. She's great. I love her so much. These characters are amazing, aren't they? I'm the best part. It's free. I'm playing a trillion hours. Seriously guys, help me. I need someone to get me on this game. I play it every day. Once we get some cyberware, I'm going to hook myself up to it and play it forever in my sleep. I can't wait for Raid Shadow Legends VR. Oh, God. There's probably some people out there. I can idle in the real world. I was just going to say to get a few more of these Double View Shadows. Shadow Legends VR is amazing. Do you agree with this? Objectively? Definitely not. I think he has a lot of issues. He's this big neck beard armchair expert. It's just, yeah. I don't know what people say. Honestly. Shadow, what techniques could be possible with dual wielding two swords that the blades pass through each other but are solid to any other substance? Interesting. Just means you get more versatility. This is why a dagger in the offhand became far more preferable historically because there was far less chance for the blades to hit and get tangled up in each other. When you've got two long weapons, that's much more likely and it limits your versatility. Just means you're going to have far more versatility like if you were using a dagger in your offhand. It wouldn't make you unstoppable, but it certainly would improve the techniques that you could employ. It's an interesting idea actually. How does Shad think Revenge of the Sith has the best dual? Crazy. Watch my fight scene autopsy. I'll give a very detailed answer in that video. There we go. Do you think that any from the OT hold up strongly? As in the fight scenes? Yeah, I rewatched Empire Strikes Back and there's some decent exchanges there actually. In fact, I've been saying I'm intending to do a fight scene autopsy on this for a while and I still am. There's just going to be a longer delay than I was expecting. But yeah, some of the exchanges in Empire actually really good and solid. The one in Return of the Jedi, that's when the techniques get a bit more oof. But they can be justified with the emotional brutality of the fight scene because it's just kind of given up and it's just hitting as hard as you can. And so there's a lot more telegraphing in that. But yeah, in terms of the exchanges in Empire, there's some really good ones. No telegraphing, quick, fast, good stances and things. Good stuff. Still hold up. And what about what about when he was finished last? Jerks! Jerks! Like, I'm definitely going to be doing one of the Rise of Scar because that is horrible. That one was really bad. If you had to pick one is the best. The best. It might be the first, if out of the Seagulls, it might be Force Awakens has the best one and that's still pretty bad. Sorry, because you can get away with they're mostly hacking at each other. It's just Kylo is sort of weird in that one. Yeah, but there are from memory, I think there's a couple of small exchanges that actually had a bit more technical complexity in them. And that was basically... I'm not sure if you all agree with me on this, Shad, but do you get the impression that in the Sequel trilogy, lightsabers seem to have doubled in weight? Holy crap! The amount of telegraphing and the most horrible blatant example of this is the Rise of Skywalker they are swinging these things around like they're 10 kilos. In the original movies they seem like really light weapons. They seem really light. In the prequels they seem really light too. Even in the OT they're pretty light because they're Darth Vader is using one hand in Empire Strikes Back and he's doing some really quick, subtle movements and exchanges with one hand movements. Not only does it show that they can be moved with speed but also that they are decently light. Oh sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say that the other thing with lightsabers is that you don't need power to do lethal force with a lightsaber. Just need a toucher basically. That's the thing, it makes sense that they're really light because all the weight is the handle. Well, canonically this has been said but it's contradicted by how they've been portrayed in the movies but I think people have shared with me that even George has said lightsabers themselves are actually decently heavy. The beam basically has no weight but they feel they have weight from a gyroscopic effect from the magnetic field they produce or something like that because even when Darth Vader and this is because it's a prop, when Darth Vader threw it in Return of the Jedi, the rotation is spinning around the beam portion but that's because it was a prop and so they've justified that in canon that they have a sense of weight in the energy portion. But with everything else that's shown in the movies that you can move these lightsabers really fast and then they try to explain that because you're using the force but then you have non-forced users pick up these lightsabers and move around just as fast like Finn in A Rise of Skywalker. No, I mean, Force Awakened. He has the force, yeah, he is now. But he didn't know how to use it, he didn't know how to pick things up. Ray didn't know that there was such a thing as forced mind-tricking people. Friggin' Mary Sue Friggy! They know all about mind control. I just love how people are like, yeah, that makes sense. It's like, do you think it makes sense to do something that you never even conceived of being something that you could do? It would be good if I could control this guy's mind right now.  I just tried it, I don't know. I can't believe this.  I didn't know that I could just turn off the Millennium Falcon and flip it around so that you could do a wager-direct hit on a tight... I mean, she's got experience with ships, like she explicitly says she's never flown it before. Yeah, and also even if she has experience with ships, could you imagine in another movie or something like a World War II movie where the guy flies his plane? How is she better than anyone who's flown that thing before? Because she bypassed the compressor. What is it with the compressor?  It was like, did you ever like the compressor?  You just keep screwing around with it. So I actually, I don't mind the fact that it's not consistent which is a big problem, but if they if all of the fights were like from the sequels where the lightsabers did apparently have some weight to them but they would like slice through anything they were, so there was a little bit of telegraphing involved but I probably might actually prefer that. It's easier for me to keep track of when I'm watching a fight and in a way it's like it looks it looks its own way when you're fighting with heavier stuff instead of you know the very very quick motions but I'm fine with lightsabers being heavy but you got to pick one. Are they lighter or are they heavy? Well being a heavy sword would get telegraphed a lot but a heavy lightsaber still wouldn't because its blade is super hot. It doesn't matter how fast you come at someone with it. What do you mean by heavy sword? This is a very triggering comment for me here. A sword that's heavy. I don't know what to say. Not heavy guys! Some are. The heaviest one Chad. The heaviest sword. Heavy swords are heavy by definition. Also heavy is relative Chad. You know what I mean. Chad I own one. I know. Yeah but the poorly made ones are competent swords that won't get overly in their right categories because of course a great sword is heavier in comparison to a long sword or an arming sword and stuff like that but for the size of a great sword they are remarkably light for the size because they're thin and then they probably balance and stuff like that and it's the poorly made ones that when you actually pick up you feel oh this is heavy like the proper sensation for a properly made sword when someone picks it up is like oh this is lighter than it looks that's what swords are. They are generally far wider than people perceive. What about clouds buster swords? So yeah I'm fine with lightsabers being like heavy swords. Yes but even still they wouldn't be telegraphed the way that someone like Ray does it where she like yells lifts it above her head and goes and I so much prefer fast well executed complex kind of maneuvers that we see in the prequel that takes planning and effort yeah and speed is a game changer in swordsmanship if you're faster than your opponent you have such an edge and so I feel like Ray would lose against an average knight like a really average knight who just gets tired in Rise of Skywalker she just gets tired in terms of the technical complexity in those fight scenes if they were still using a fight scene I am arrogant and confident enough to say that I reckon I could beat Ray with a regular sword against her using a lightsaber because I just wouldn't I wouldn't bind with her weapon because she telegraphs so much you just hold your stance let her swing at you and you see it a mile away and just move you sort out of the way you step back and then take adventure because they over swing all the time and so you just you just need to let them swing they over swing and then their side is way open and then you just slash them and it's like that bad I've already ran away with this in my head and it's like okay so you win they do what about rags and you got a lightsaber in your mouth and then as soon as the fight starts you drop it and pull out a pistol and shoot like I don't think she ever blocked because she only ever used the lightsaber to fight Kylo Ren it's so boring did we talk about this before that if you try to block a bullet with the lightsaber it would melt and splash the molten steam on your face and while we were watching Mandalorian I think Mahler and I we were talking about I had mentioned that you know if you were going to go around killing Jedi then if you had a blaster that shot three bolts at once you could kill Jedi with that without much of an issue and then Mahler brought up oh my god the super battle droids have try shots is that what it's for canonically to kill Jedi they have that wristgun that shoots three at once which you can't block with a lightsaber so I'm like oh my god it's all coming together I don't like rags I George do no the bad lad we're so sorry George come back I said the exact same thing in my problem of lightsabers video that it's showing that Jedi's can get overwhelmed with blaster fire they're technically not invulnerable which is why they should be using shields my goodness right and the fact that shields canonically exist in Star Wars both Dura Steel shields and energy shields that the Gungans use and so yeah you're absolutely right if you just you know like overwhelm them with enough shots three in like in one Shadow what do you mean shields don't work in atmosphere don't don't and the other thing right the best weapon for the Jedi based on their powers is actually blasters long range blasters they can use the force to increase their aim and so it's you can you imagine like death sniper Jedi there would be insane oh he was my xbox live friend back to 15 years ago death sniper Jedi you know he's a great guy there you go I like how this one says before you go Shad I think the fight choreography was bad because I could not follow any of it at all I don't even know what this is referring to you must be referring to the prequel I'm thinking is that like a follow-up based on how can I say that prequel fight scenes are good no I have no idea and I don't even know what episode that's from that could literally be from like 20 episodes ago from from all I remember like but I'm sorry yeah I'm sorry that we don't have the context for it could you tell Shad that in his fight scene autopsy he keeps referring to shots as scenes as a cinematographer it irks me love you guys I'm sorry I have to stand back you have been shamed I have been hey Shad what do you think of Corvo's folding sword from dishonored I haven't played it I need to see um I think the folding sword it's been a while since I've played it I think it's a sword that folds on like at the hilt generally where the blade connects with a handguard it like pivots in and out but let me double check let me actually google it alrighty generally folding swords have inherent issues because you need rigidity in your blade and if there is like a fold point that is also a focal point for stress and even if it like it's holding it at a point having a hinge there creates a much higher chance of it breaking this is like the disassembleable bull swords you know the ones that are made out of a separate part that you're like Highlander you guys seen the classic Highlander that guy he's got the sword that he like clips together out of parts that would that would break really easily I think I have a I think I have a gif of it that I can post for you to look at real quick also is your microphone at like top efficiency right now Shad you sound a little bit muffled that's all dude oh I don't know I can check is it sound issues not too much of an issue but if there's anything you could do to do anything with it alright I'm gonna check because I wonder if it's even picking up the mic audio so just chat amongst yourselves while I try and oh boy that sun sure is hot oh that's dis honored yeah Corvo's the protagonist of yeah the sword looks really cool wasn't it yeah one of the questions I've got saved it here is Satan what makes a good spider bat adaptation I like that you guys on the subject of swords are you familiar with a show called forged by fire I think of this sounds familiar yeah where they built swords and it's awesome it's a really cool show and there are a couple of YouTube channels doing that as well like and they build fictional swords I mean maybe yeah like they make the sword and then they do a bunch of tests like um how sharp it is try to cut through bones to see if it'll break yeah I think the one I used to watch was the man at arms and then it became like man at arms reforged I think right yeah they made some cool stuff a lot of it was very impractical because it was all from video games and movies where it was ridiculous but you know like dis honored sword I think they made the buster sword and it was like it's just so ridiculous this enormous sword that has this really thin small handle but it's like to pick it up but it's uh it whacked a wallop it packed a punch yeah people know what the show is and Chad has become static I understand can you hear me now is that better yeah we can hear you is it clearer I think sorry hard to tell you are alright before for me at least okay because if it's not this it'll be internet I apologize this is fine this is definitely clearer also yeah I guess I meant man at arms if I didn't say that I think I said something else but yes oh man at arms reforged yeah great stuff really like him we were just talking about Shadow B heard of a show called forged in fire oh yeah it is hard to get like a copy of that here in Australia and it was on one of the broadcasters here all the Australian free to air broadcasters suck by the way in case you're right the pickings are pretty slim it came on SBS for a short time there so I tried streaming it but holy crap the ads that they spam in that they have so many ads in their streaming thing I was like I can't deal with this I don't like because every single network here except for maybe ABC because ABC is non-commercial when it comes to trying to watch stuff on their platform that ads oh you need to sign up to Channel 9 to watch Channel 9 it's like no thanks I'd rather not yep say I gave up I was like nah I'm not putting on this crap do you want to watch forged in fire yeah that show was really cool like when I watched a couple episodes where they're like testing out swords and then they're walking through oh you know you made your sword it's too rounded at this part or it's flexing like they have a final challenge where they try and cut right through a giant pig carcass and you have like one guy whose sword just completely bends and wobbles around and then the other dude slices clean through and it's like that was a controversy I've heard because the judges they have experience in knife making and they have like a knife fighting expert and they know nothing about how to use swords properly and the one that flopped his edge alignment was basically hitting with the flat it's like when they do swords they really need a sword expert on there like get Matt Easton on there for heaven's sake seriously your sword expert's important because if you're going to be determining who wins or loses depending on how it cuts and you don't cut it correctly for one of them exactly there is a shot of the knife guy with like a claymore or something on a pig carcass and it's bending heaps and it's hitting with the flat and it's like because he's supposed to be the weapons expert he won't say that he stuffed up this cut it's like oh sorry the sword's bad it's like no it wasn't it's funny when it comes to the whole judge thing and how you can't question have you seen clips of the American master chef uh yeah not like not recently there's this guy called Joe who I guess feels like he needs to one after this guy called Joe motherfucker this guy Joe he just acts like kind of a complete douche like he asks someone to explain their dish and cuts them up he's like this is a master or raider it's like dude get fucked just fuck off he's such a twat nobody to pray and then he like grabs their food and throws it in the bit he's not even tasting it's like how do you know it's bad you just shoot me this bad based on how it looks oh is this master looker maybe there were maggots on it freaky you don't know I just hope he walks around he's like is this what we expected this late stage of the competition you know it's just like dude shut up shut up take your money and go home alright so I'm looking at the pictures rags posted about the disarmered blade thing and if it's basically a flick blade that that'll work I mean as long as the connection point is solid enough and the blade doesn't have segments in it so there's stress points that could work that seems right now I actually have a question about that you just said segments and stress points so you have a sword that has multiple like like a hypothetical and this is definitely not something that I've come up with because I want to do it in a story not at all definitely but my friend was talking to me about stuff and quickly patent it and it's like imagine a sword that is like a light saber but it's just a sword so it shoots out like it extends out with multiple segments I imagine that like a telescope yeah sorry it would need to be made out of some super futuristic or magical material no titanium would not be our whole structure because to telescope a blade the segments need to be so damn thin for it to be right you know flick out for the blades in between and because of that it's going to have no so if it's built out of contrivium then it will be fine yes then you're fine contrivium surprisingly is the perfect material for that kind of thing like that is the perfect material you hit it on the head oh well you know about swords of course that makes perfect sense that a sword segment isn't going to work properly Chad is Rise of Skywalker the pineapple on pizza of Star Wars not the sequel trilogy the sequel trilogy is the steaming turd on pizza of Star Wars but he's just calling it pineapple even though pineapple on pizza is an atrocity that doesn't even do the justice for how bad the sequel is I guess there's a follow up is like well Chad was this film the spaghetti bolognese you were looking for absolutely not absolutely not hi Chad I liked your book would you let JJ Abrams or Ryan Johnson make it a movie I'm joking don't let them knew the book if they offered you like a million to buy the story like if they paid me a lot of money and they didn't touch the script I think JJ can make something even then though wouldn't you be assuming they'd kill it in some way well this is the other this is the other side right is there are so many horror stories of authors getting their work adapted and they get these promises all these promises from the Hollywood producers stuff like that saying yes we're going to do this for you and they screw them over right up the rear end right after and we saw it happen with George Lucas they promised all this stuff with George Lucas and yeah we'll do your movie and everything we'll take care of your characters they totally took care of his characters oh I don't think I could trust any promises like like because I was gonna like if you had reassurances but reassurances aren't enough but if say hypothetically the reassurances were actually held honestly and true then I'll be willing but I just I could never trust like I'm not sure I could ever you know take those reassurances as valid because there are so many stories of Hollywood just screwing over the creators and they're saying if you once they have their rights then it's like now we can do what we want just depends on what the contract is doesn't know whether or not even even conjure like they hide things they find loopholes and stuff like I was really following closely the negotiations that awesome Scott Card was sharing about in this game and he had some really strong um uh like desires for how in this game was going to be adapted and they screwed him over basically still like ender was supposed to be like really young young even younger than what he was depicted they wanted they wanted to make ender like 19 years old like or or you know some like sexy kind of space tactician guy and awesome was always like children 66 oh go ahead no I was just saying and yeah he wanted him much younger even then what it ended up being and and they still they did younger than what they wanted but not as young as ender should have been for the context of the books I got I got two messages that call shout out in terms of law oh my god it's gonna say it's gonna say bring it on one minute bend over ready to receive it so this this one's a little lighter it's the uh the red color is because for lightsabers now you're saying you choose red you don't want it to be considered an evil color they said the red color is because of poorly made synthetic kyber crystals of the sith use and as for eons the Jedi held ileum sorry where saber crystals naturally come from that's why they are so I want to like I've heard multiple explanations of the red color and this is just one on the pile and I have no friggin idea what's true canon now yeah first off whoever sent that super chat is a fucking nerd we're not it's okay it's enough at all ignore the title of this stream we're the chads with the jocks you call me chat diversity mm-hmm I just don't know what the origin is now because even in the four no the night's the odd republic video games had their own explanation for where the red crystal comes from and as they you know in the in the caves where the crystals come from the red one grows in an egg and you have to kill an innocent life to get the egg before it's like I don't know absorbed in the animal growing and then I've also heard that you need to infuse it with the dark force or something like that I thought you said to like slit someone's throat and have them bleed all over a good lightsaber in terms of the younglings the blood of younglings turns into a lightsaber red um Star Wars is just prejudiced against the red color okay it's like if it's red it has to be evil it's like type casting it's like red's not evil red lightsabers being evil is toxic masculinity yes so this one's more of a blame one because I think you said that it's not such a big deal that Ahsoka is one of the voices at the end meaning she's dead because she was probably dead at that point anyway right well this person says Ahsoka was confirmed alive after the battle of Endor Shad her species lives up to 80 years force sensitive up to 200 she'd be in her 70s by the rise of Skywalker okay so battle of Endor she was alive what the hell was she doing I don't know she was fighting a star destroyer in some other place okay well I guess if she was still fighting something you know I would have assumed that just after the whole galaxy would have been a greater threat and that some people just didn't know about it some people didn't know she wasn't given an email I guess Ahsoka could she become a disillusioned with the Jedi because I heard that she wasn't a Jedi anymore at the um during the um yeah she has a line in Rebels where she says she's not a Jedi yeah but I feel like that's the kind of cause this is the issue with this series is it kind of likes to go into this gray area thing that not ever throw away the fact that the Jedi are the protagonists undoubtedly so every time someone says I'm not a Jedi the Jedi suck it's like nah nah you don't believe me you're splitting hairs here um but yeah that's the Jedi light your light Jedi that's all the ones I can find so far you're gonna have a whole bunch more the next time you come on from this stream more than likely um uh oh wait Shad a castle is still a good idea if you include anti aircraft weapons so just to be clear are they saying is your castle better with anti aircraft weapons or I guess yeah I Shad with the inclusion of anti aircraft guns make a castle worse I guess there's actually there is actually an interesting answer this because um the Germans during World War two made some crazy crazy like epic um anti aircraft fortresses right that you might be I mean technically their fortresses are not castles if you're going according to strict definition but castle becomes a fair least germ anyway and stuff but it is a very interesting kind of study to look at the evolution of the concept of static fortifications and fortresses and stuff like that and they have like massive anti aircraft kind of you know fixtures to them and uh they were they seem to have worked effectively enough um in terms of taking on aircraft from a fortified stronghold thing and so if you actually had to deal with aircraft as a a threat to your castle yeah adding an anti aircraft gun absolutely and it's been done kind of historically in World War two um oh and the end of this thing just ends with space cancer space cancer space cancer space cancer space cancer ah I don't know I don't think they like space cancer you could say none of that question for shad what would be the best elemental enchantment for a sword what do you mean by elements all right I guess the basic one fire water air earth I'm guessing like the classic element how they would work in a sword exactly I suppose fire would just you know slash someone earth earth is often linked with poison well that's what I mean like what then after you figure out what elements because I come fire included as part of the core elemental you know things always bugs me because technically fire is air isn't it ruined swords as well well it also depends on how it's adapted into the thing if it just doesn't make the blade really really hot or is it literally sheathed in fire that's just burning I like because I would have an intimidation factor it could technically quarter the wounds that you strike which might not be the burning around the wound would be painful as all hell for the person getting cut um but like air right if you're adapting air onto a blade in what way is there like a a flow of air that's a razor thin that creates a shearing force on top of the blade which increases cutting capacity and helps separate material because in that sense air would actually be a vicious enchantment to have on a sword in that sense and it might actually be far more devastating than the fire one so again it depends on how it's adapted is earth poison that's another question maybe the air one just makes it smell nice yeah but but technically fire is the result of you know oxygen and carbon it's technically if you actually want to pick at the elements of fire it's air and earth if you're going to include carbon as part of the earth things and so it's always bug me it's not a core element I like that that you have carbon you know what's the element carbon nitrogen yeah well it's funny right like this is the better way to handle fundamental elements in the setting because if I was ever doing a magic based system this is the one that I had written and I haven't you know written on one of my notes that I would resort to I wouldn't do earth fire with water I would do the states of matter solid, liquid, gas, heat and cold those are the core states that's what you do and then if you wanted to have create fire from these things it would actually be employing wind and heat technically and you bond them then to carbon or flammable material that's how it works scientifically well well sounds like fun um I suppose there are other questions I can find in my notes there will be more for next time like I said but shall we and apologies yeah I'll just say apologies to everyone in this stream who are doing super chats if they're directed towards me because I'm probably not going to be hanging around for the super chat portion I'm sorry I'm going to miss it and also I really appreciate all the comments in chat saying wishing me well for the surgery so say thanks guys I appreciate it absolutely so we will have you back the moment you're available as well there's always more to talk about probably bad lord season 2 as well that'll happen eventually I don't even know if they finished doing that yet because I know they started filming it we're getting close which brings us to the main event this is a weird eFap because there's not going to be a video to talk about at all actually it's just going to be discussionisms which we've done before but um oh actually there is one thing I wanted to show that's actually two things he's probably seen one of them before but the first one is a couple people in chat have said it they want you to see the um the lightsaber suit mad yeah asses him alright so my concern would be accidentally stabbing yourself no say you're running at full sprint right the lightsaber is coming out of the knees has a good chance that they might accidentally skewer you especially on like at the downward swing of your elbow right if you accidentally cross over partially over your leg or because they do get closer you know in the jogging and you're not used to having objects seen out so you need to train yourself to avoid you know the direction redirecting accidentally redirecting those lightsabers into any parts of your body that would be that would be very dangerous but if you got used to it well you know having like laser swords when you knee or elbow someone just increases your lethality a bit so there could be some I feel like falling down a series of steps or something you'd end up as a pile of flash or the pop of it slices you up well just think about all the things you can't do like this you sit down and you lean on your knee and you stab both your arm and your leg at the same time you turn them off to do that for you gosh how does he turn them off behind oh of course yeah this is so stupid somebody looked at this and they thought oh this is awesome and then the other image is someone I was made aware of recently I don't know if you saw it on twitter yet or not but it's the Shad oh yes I saw that this morning when someone came to me I was like that is glorious I love it I like the big balls there probably artistic but rarely shows outside of magic king of neck beards too humble to wear a crown I love the probably artistic have you seen the pommel on your sword it's a little dick I missed that it's glorious I love it I hope it gets spread amongst the internet discarded his bolly pillow after finding the moral compass that's what you got there the final evolution of neck beard I will take it I accept it and embrace it beautiful art it's glorious with those two done we're supposed to be talking about the Mandalorian how do we start this up I suppose should we explain the arc we went on it let's do the preamble yeah the preamble I'm kind of interested in hearing our individual ratings out of 10 for it and then just if you liked it or disliked it and then we can kind of oh man alright I'll go first I'll set the tone so there's lots that I like about it on a rather superficial level unfortunately I'm supposed to say like be consistent with how I break down stories this one suffers immensely is like we're looking very very low scoring higher than the Disney trilogy I think we'll go through it today and figure that out probably but I don't know like a 3 out of 10 for the season that's harsh man who's next well I'll go next right I really enjoyed it I mean I'll be the first one to admit that there is some baffling kind of choices in certain parts of the narrative and there are contradictions and inconsistencies and just weird things that are happening but I found for myself a lot to enjoy in it and so for me because there was so much I enjoyed and I did look at some of the more baffling weird things and I kind of found ways that they might be explained in the actual narrative itself in some circumstances and so for me I would be I would want to probably give it a 6 out of 10 if I was to just rate it the writing quality overall but the other more superficial things I really enjoyed in it like for instance just like the production values that we'll get into later that actually encourages me to up it to a 7 out of 10 if I was to rate it Alright Maybe I'll go next because I'm guessing right it's going to be the hardest of all I really just a bit of background so my big thing that I really like and want to see more of a space bounty hunter stories that's like my big thing that I like I feel like there's not nearly enough that you've got Metroid but that's kind of been on ice and then you had Pray 2 and then that got thrown away so like when this got I was really I really wanted to like it and I did right at the beginning and then it just began to deteriorate with each successive episode it just started getting worse and worse and then picked up a little bit and then went back down again I mean yeah like it's probably a 4 if I would have rank it while divorcing sort of the stuff that I like like the armour and the music I guess the music does contribute to it though I don't think you can divorce those elements though I think you should include those in your overall rating well wait wait wait if he just says I like the armour that's not really a strong argument but like music is a surprise the music is great the music is really good I probably shouldn't have said it like that so what I mean is the stuff that I guess I was already predisposed to liking the visuals and what I mean by that is I guess not just how technically well done it was but how much I personally like it so if I were to say it would probably be like a 4 if I had to give it a rating even though there were probably times when I was really enjoying it even though it didn't there were parts that I enjoyed even though I knew that they didn't make sense or were kind of stupid but yeah it's probably a 4 would your rating change if you were trying to rate it as a mercenary bounty hunter because you said you really enjoyed that aspect of it okay would your rating change if you were going to try and include your views or enjoyment of it as a lone mercenary bounty hunter kind of story my issue is that the big problem and this is something that will probably become apparent as we go through this series is that there were a lot of ways that they could have made this like a 9 out of 10 show if they just made if they kept the things that like they could have kept the same plot points but if they just like spent more time on each individual thing if this season was spread across two or three seasons like it could have been really really good does that mean moving on to rags yeah we'll get into it what's interesting is that I think this is the same with Mahler but we both watched them the first time together and the second time together so we'll probably line up fairly closely if I was going to rate it out of 10 with a 5 being completely average then I'd probably give it around a 3 at the most the things that I really like about it are for the most part the music a lot of the visual effects are good some of the sets and the props and stuff are really nice but ultimately that stuff is a lot more superficial than stuff like story and character and the you know nonsense has things progress as it does that we'll get into so I'll probably go with a 3 I won't be harshest to say a 2 but maybe the more and more we talk about it I might it could change either way but we'll see because I got my notes here that are opened up as we finished watching all the episodes this morning and it was just it was rough trying to keep up a lot of the times trying to get our notes together for all the stuff that we found wrong PSA, I'd appreciate it not saying you can't do it that includes the cast and the chat to refrain from ascribing motivation for as long as you can the obvious 2 choices are Mola, Fringian, Rags just don't like it because it's made by Disney and or, Chad only likes it because it's better than the sequel trilogy and he's not doing standards probably let's keep that aside for as long well, the thing is right it's worthwhile to note for everybody that Mola, Rags and I we liked it a lot for the first 2 episodes we've publicly said that we have publicly said before we were very much on its side we went to bat for it against other people we said episode 1 and 2 were really good, really solid I don't have that opinion anymore but I legitimately really thought that the show was good and I remember when Fringian Mola and myself watched it for the first time we were absolutely excited for more we were ready we were like, oh my god, is this gonna be good is this gonna be good by the time we got to episode 4 it's like, oh 4 is definitely the one, it's so bad but yeah, I guess we should start up with episode 1 or should we do some kind of I think we should, but out of interest and this I am interested just make a comparison here to the Witcher, have any of you guys seen the Witcher? No, I haven't seen it yet and I have heard everything from it's great, it's terrible and everything in between yeah because I have some more harsh views on the Witcher overall I found it enjoyable enough to make me want to watch season 7 because I like Geralt and I have a whole review on my channel right but in comparison, and this is what I find interesting I actually think Mandalorian is better than the Witcher especially in terms of the writing because the Witcher like with the writing, the Witcher gets really messy, like really and people are loving the Witcher and so I just find that really interesting because yeah, that's why I wanted to ask if any of you guys like the Witcher because for me objectively, I think the Witcher is worse than Mandalorian well, Rags, we should watch that just to get abreast of the situation yeah, it's definitely been on our list of things to watch, but I'm totally down for checking out the Witcher uh oh yeah, I guess so if anybody's unclear on it, this episode, I don't know how long it'll take it's gonna be all about Mandalorian and then it's probably gonna be all Superchats it will try and square up as many as we can from the overflow and then the following week is going to be the episode where we look at all of the picture memes, we've got a couple of video ones the script that was coming out from Colin Travaro was it a quote from a Nazi or Movie Bob and there's a fourth thing oh yeah, I know right I hate everything conversation all of that is gonna be one episode next week I'm not even sure what guests will have for that it's gonna be weird as an episode but obviously we've swapped them around because it better fits Shad's schedule and I think it works out for the best we're fresh off the presses from watching Mandalorian so I suppose it's time everybody sorry indeed episode one is probably the strongest IMO I think that after watching them again I would say that episode one is the strongest with another contender being episode two episode two yeah episode one is still like decent to good or I guess should we just go through it yeah go episode by episode format for this we'll try and do chronological but I think it should be pretty free flow and throw in goods and bads I suppose there's no real need to say that we do them separately or something do we just start by lining up what are the good things that we're not gonna dispute the visuals the soundtrack cinematography we'll just say straight up those are really good yeah for the most part the visuals are really good it's very impressive looking a lot of money went into the production value in that aspect the ships the effects the aliens all that stuff the environments it looks really really good never had any issue with bad CGI that I'm aware of parts that I can think of are so minor it's not even really worth mentioning but they're very very technically impressive on that level I actually think it deserves more credit for how impressive the visuals were for it because like in terms of quality I'm not talking about scale but quality they were easily as good as film like the the individual ships and stuff and like I was watching the mudhorn fight scene again in episode 2 and it was flawless like the interaction of that thing in the mud and the physicality that you feel when he impacts the mantle like that was visually it looks really good it's unfortunate that what happens in that fight is absurd we'll get to that because over like I have never seen a TV series done so technically well and I loved it for that because I got to enjoy a longer form story in the quality of a movie and I personally feel it needs more credit for doing that because I've never seen anything as like again look at the Witcher the Witcher has some horrible CGI and that's a big budget huge Netflix release you saw Game of Thrones right parts yeah and the dragons were pretty darn good in Game of Thrones absolute credit they certainly cut back in certain fight scenes in battles with scale and budget constraints so like the ways that they depict in castles they're always using static painted backdrops for the castles in the first season and so that's why I think Mandalorian had none of that like when it shows you like the planets or the flying in or the overhead shots or the there was a smaller city town granted but when you're seeing it over overhead it was flawless like it was brilliant so I really liked it for that and so when we say that the visuals were good I think we know the visuals were brilliant um I mean do you remember an episode 8 when IG-11 fights those two stormtroopers that one is probably the only it's probably the only example of the CGI being bad but it's bad like it's very obvious the animation I'm pretty sure the stormtroopers outfits in that one scene as well are very plasticy looking and yeah they look very bad the rust looks like it was colored in yeah it definitely stood out as being very cheap but that was like the only instance there was one other one the robots in episode was a 5 when they go onto the ship to spring the guy from oh that's episode 6 well some of the robot guards that were CG were there was one shot that was oh well that's yeah but again this is like 5 hours of content and the other thing is like you see those mistakes and in actual fact you see one's done worse than that in full fledged feature and stuff and so the fact that it was still that quality so consistently really impressive visually it's from a production standpoint it's really well put together agreed but the writing yeah it's funny because I think an easy first topic considering the first shot and the first thing you hear in this whole show is the fobs let's talk about the fobs let's talk about the fobs fobs will haunt this show 8 episodes basically well see this is interesting I want to hear your takes because I've thought about the fobs a lot and because it's funny everyone has a bias and because I did enjoy the Mandalorian I have found myself being more forgiving or at least willing to go to a bit more effort to try and see if things were justified or not and I will admit when things are irredeemable and they're broken I will admit it especially if you really have to make up stuff to justify things that aren't even alluded to in the episodes but I actually found some things that explain the fobs a little bit so this will be an interesting topic alright who wants to take point on the fobs anybody is going to go for it so one of the things about fobs is that there's a lot of stuff that we don't know about them which isn't necessarily a problem but eventually it does get to a point where we start to wonder how does this work and at what point is it going to be explained to us so we know what the rules are for fobs one of the issues surrounding fobs though is they're a parent they tend to be forgotten as a thing they don't get made factions don't use them when they need to namely Imperials should we get to that though when we hit those episodes where they should be I was just touching on it lightly it's never mentioned how you can get rid of a fob tracker which struck me as very very odd especially if the story is there's a fob tracking baby Yoda for the whole season essentially but it's never in all the episodes of one we watched and rewatched never is it brought up the idea of how do we get rid of the fob tracker how do we elude it how do we stop it as if it's assumed there's no way to do it which causes an incredible amount of questions to be raised for the rest of Star Wars and how you can find people how these could be used in the story or abused for story purposes fobs are they're very they're strange in the way that they're used the fundamental question we need is what are they tracking specifically what are they tracking we don't know maybe they're tracking their life I don't know so I had all the same questions as you guys and I was actually starting to feel that fobs are starting to break a lot of elements because of these are like basically magic tracking devices that kind of breaks Star Wars why the heck wasn't why didn't Darth Vader use them to find the location of the rebel base and he had to interrogate and all that stuff and so yeah like what seems to be implied on the surface is that these things are broken and so I was I was really wondering and so it started with me just saying okay how would I if I was not trying to find clues in the episodes how on earth would I even explain how they work like DNA tracking that through hyperspace force that they're connected with force sensing people and stuff and so I was coming up empty but when I was rewatching episodes just I guess to bring up your point you know how do you get rid of a fob tracker it's not they did not do a good job if they and and I'm worried that this might be me picking up clues from what's shown and and then explaining it through what's implied and then it's going to be contradicted later on because this happens all the time in Star Wars like you know when people say we're trying to explain why Luke didn't use their the fighter to go help the rebels in force no last Jedi because and everyone just said well naturally the ship must be broken okay and that was the logical implication I was a satisfying explanation and then it was contradicted by the next bloody movie and I could be doing this I fully admit okay and I fully admit that it is not a explained explicitly when it should be because it implies these things but I think it's actually shown rather than explained with two key scenes the first scene is when Mando goes to the Imperial Guy and the Imperial Guy gives the information on baby Yoda and he says all I can give you is his age and the last known location but with that information you should have someone of your capability should be able to find it and then when baby Yoda is about to get sniped by the bounty hunter on the planet in episode four so when they go to the bounty hunter there I forget her name but she specifically says that they know his here meaning that seems to imply when I heard that I was like oh that's interesting they need to know the location before the FOB points at which implies that FOBs are restricted by range that you at least need to be on the planet for one to be able to find and then you need some type of marker to be able to scan for the individual what is that marker well I was wondering I was like okay what's the answer here and I was looking well in Star Wars they do have fairly advanced scanning when Luke is flying down to Dagobah in Empire Strikes Back he scares the planet like well there's no structures but there's heaps of lifeforms everywhere and so that's actually really advanced scanning that you can scan in entire planet lifeform things and if you have that capacity in just a small fighter it means that scanning technology can be fairly portable and so if you could scan in entire but you need to be in the range of the planet and if you can scan the entire planet for a lifeform that is specifically 50 years old that could give you a decent number of hits well when I say decent number like if the planet is not as highly populated well that would give you only like a certain number that you could then work through and then okay well if it's intrusive included or it needs to be amongst other lifeforms everything you kind of work through things to actually narrow down the areas in which it's pointing and then if the scanning could get so advanced that it could actually lock on to the species you're actually scanning for a specific species well then that kind of explains it it could actually explain that fobs need to be at least within a planetary range and that explains how the whole Mandalorians is like how he could actually try and lie low and escape the range of the fobs his intention was to go to a secluded planet that was completely off the radar of anyone and that it was unlikely that anyone would even go to the planet to check it out and so when I was like okay it might might actually explain what about that scene where he was getting attacked in space to fobs work in space as well or yeah if they're within range if they're fast enough and so we're not told what got the guy in the fight to attack Mando and they could have been refueling or any number of things and they could have gotten proximity and the fobs just go ding ding and we know that the fobs were sent out to most of the bounty hunters and stuff and the fact that they had so at first it was really hard for Mandalorian to find Yoda but once he found Yoda and he handed them in they did some type of test they obviously got his blood and so they would have species DNA and everything and we don't exactly know how scanners work in Star Wars but we can kind of assume that they had a lot more information to scan for once baby Yoda was handed in and so therefore the fobs might be able to work far more I guess accurately in pinpointing baby Yoda's location after they got more I guess biological information on him so what do you guys think that's what I was kind of noticing when I was because I mean that's a like a lot of I feel like there's a lot of that is harshly extrapolated it's going off because like it's going off what's implied and what's shown and what it really needed is someone to just simply say these are the rules limitation on distance basic biological information to be able to scan for it but it is kind of implied because the guy when he was giving Mando he says we know the last known location and then he gets some biological information so I would say that they should have no fobs at all I agree you should get rid of the fobs and just have it be that bounty hunters need to track people down properly I think it takes a lot out of the this is a little meta in some way but I think that having fobs that basically just points you to where the guy is you're supposed to go get both interesting but substantial part of what it is to be a bounty hunter yeah you don't need to be smart or clever you don't need to figure things out for that portion hang on because if all you if you don't know their location to even get the fob to start to clue in that's how fobs work though that's it but see it could take a lot of work to try and find where the planet is and then use the fob to scan in towards whatever biological information you could be going off for it to track I think there could still be a lot of difficulty in finding the planet and that is kind of implied that they were on the backwater planet for weeks even after the fight they actually say that these last few weeks he's been happy in everything talking about baby Yoda and it took several weeks for one bounty hunter amongst all thousands to have these things to finally find the planet where the fob might have given in the clue so I think fobs don't break the whole kind of difficulty of tracking people down if they have that limitation and I'm not saying they do it's just kind of implied I still think that is a huge part of it that takes a lot of the work away from it as well as if you have fobs and they work along those rules then if you have things like guilds here then that would significantly narrow down the amount of searching that a guild has to do because it's not one person trying to track down individual planet it's an entire guild that is using information because remember the guild has a vested interest in having their members find marks so if you have a guild then their ability to cover planets all over the galaxy very very quickly is significantly sped up so just to play devil's advocate then alright um I'm wondering that if you want to say fobs don't exist and that bounty hunters need a track right and stuff like that to be consistent they would need to use the scanning technology that's available in Star Wars that's already been implied Sure but then you can explain that in scenes in a show yeah I know and the scanning technology does seem to be pretty advanced and so the question is if you had someone species their age and you could scan a whole planet just for those two things let alone their name, height and other characteristics based on the scanning technology that's already present in Star Wars like they technically should be able to locate someone on a planet just by a scan pretty quickly just by the technology that already exists do we know they could scan individuals on that level from like space or a certain amount of distance well it's implied it's not explicit but you do get life forms right buildings so yeah that is a good question that is a good and it would help us our understanding if it was explained explicitly that the scanning could work but would you concede that you definitely could scan someone to that specific detail if not planetary but closer closer you get the stronger and more detailed scanning I would say I'd say it's reasonable that the closer you get the more accurate the scan would be but even if we're looking for details on a planetary level that still is I would be it's hard to say because we're really doing a lot of guesswork here well yeah I fully admit I'm extrapolating on things that are implied and this could all be contradicted by someone using a fob in season 2 that is like they're on one planet it's like oh the fob is telling me it's on another planet I'll be like well there we go you screwed it right but at the moment there's nothing there's nothing contradicting I guess this theory and the theory is based on specific things that are implied and how that fits quite well with how they're shown being employed at the moment which is why I'm not as dark with the fobs right now I would say the show very much also supports it almost explicitly at some points from viewing it that it's it's just tied to the person like that's just seems to be how it works that's obviously the concern all of us have we don't want that to be the case I know and it would have been so good that like all you need is one small scene when Mendo goes to the last stone location of baby Yoda and episode 1 he says alright well based on the age and we're not told if you had species information but it really is like and the species I'm only getting and all you would need is that age and species and if you could scan the whole planet you would know exactly where baby Yoda is and that needs to be seen as simple as that but it would have been even if he didn't have species to say well it's a very how many 15 year olds are on this planet yeah exactly but because the planet seems fairly sparse in terms of population exactly 50 like depending on how that's still gonna screw you over big time if you don't have a puck because what if you brought baby Yoda back and they were like nope it's a different 50 year old on that planet it's like oh but it seems like that could have been a possibility we'll see but if we run with the assumed theory or at least my assumed theory they give him the age they give him the last reported position of baby Yoda and then the fob which let's just pretend for a second it does lead directly to the person that means he can get to the planet the last reported area use the fob to get more closer and closer and then figure out where the 50 year old is if he can't naturally the fob will just lead him directly to him because Werner Hitzog says that you'll be able to make short work of it and it's like how would anyone be able to make short work of this if they have to search a planet for all 50 year olds also yeah like I agree the more that I think we don't know how many exact 50 year olds because that is an exact age for the amount of population that planet seemed to have had I'd say the likelihood you might get 10 out of all the population on that planet which already seemed to be pretty low and it would have been kind of cool if he did the scan and he got 10 hits and he goes ok now we need to work through it's going to be protected and it's going to be in some kind of security system what if one of those guys defending baby Yoda was a 50 year old Mando can't kill him well he could kill him and he'd have to bring the body back as well in case that guy is the bounty yeah that would have made an interesting kind of conflict wouldn't have had to work with the information he had and it's convenient I don't think I'm ready to accept the idea that you could even scan for people's ages yeah the more I think about it the more it just doesn't like that you're going to have to really give me something solid in the material to say you could scan for people's ages would that be really careful too 50 years and 300 days or 50 years and one day yeah how many years are different depending on what planet you're from I agree and the satisfying thing for me I would say you should technically only be able to determine the actual cellular age of someone's physical body with a sample myself I don't understand my problem with the fobs is it just seems like I don't even understand how the fob activates how do you have somebody there is one thing that simply isn't stated and this is one that is not supported by anything in the show so it's an absolute leak I fully admit that and when an audience when the audience needs to go to such extent to try and explain things it's a sign of bad writing even if this explains it it doesn't excuse the fact that it wasn't explained in the show and it's bad that I need to do this it's a sign of bad writing I fully admit this right but we're not told of any additional information the fob had on the scan all we are implied about the age but it could be that he had some of the DNA some of the species information that he could have scanned for I'm open to the idea that if you have DNA samples then it makes it easier to track somebody sure I think that we're all pretty much in agreement though that the way that they explain fobs and illustrate their use is extremely loose to where we don't really know what the rules are for them well I think the planetary proximity is actually shown explicitly enough I don't think it's shown explicitly at all well no that when the sniper goes to shoot baby Yoda their response was oh he had a fob he tracked him their response was they know he's here then they can track him meaning that is a direct implication they need to know the location before they can find it that's the word that has the direct implication there so I don't know am I to believe that the way that it works for a bounty hunter who has no idea where that guy is that they're just going to go to every individual planet to like just land there pull out a fob and be like oh I guess it's not here and then get off and then go to the next planet land and then get a fob one that could be a very valid way of doing it but if you're a smart bounty hunter you would then say what are the most likely locations they'd be hiding him the issue sorry that would have a very good narrative kind of detective elements to it still even with the presence of fobs my problem is I don't recall any point in the the show where they show us that fobs do not work in space we've only ever seen you know what I mean like so I've never this is the first time I've even thought about the idea that fobs only work on the planet because I never saw anything that said it's implied by what's her name the carol lady the bounty hunter it's implied in that scene specifically I don't know that you're right about that because you could read it in a different way which is when he's like who's he tracking the kid so that line alone is like oh of course they're tracking the kid and then the conclusion is oh well now they're going to know he's here because this guy came for him and he's dead which means there's going to be more on the way there's going to be obviously there's more they know he's here now the reason why I think that's wrong is because if they could all track just with the fob they would all know the location the moment Mando even landed there but it took weeks for this guy to find him and so it's not through the fob that they were able to know the location because it took so long for anyone to find him and so they found the location and that's why the reading is they know his here I just figured that was a mistake on their part that it took so long for people to turn up because alternatively are you telling me that bounty hunters are just planet jumping and hoping for the best I don't think that's a disingenuous explanation of what one of the core tasks the bounty hunter needs to do they need to find the planet that these bounties are hiding on and it wouldn't be a random thing if you're a smart bounty hunter you would say alright known associates last known location best places to hide we had known known associates on that well yeah but then remember how they talk about an episode one an episode one they mention oh you know it that's not even going to pay for my fuel so fuel is a concern I don't see that it's feasible like economically feasible for bounty hunters to just go to and to clarify what I assume yeah and I'd assume that the industry works by going bounty hunter this is the park as in this is what they look like this is probably you can get some information like how they are over this is the planet we know they're on or this is the last planet they were known to be on you can accept this job or you or you cannot this is completely up to you and the bounty hunter can take the risk or not the idea that it's like we've got a high value target that's somewhere in the galaxy galaxy yeah it's like go to planets and check hang on hang on I like surely though there would be cases where it's like that Mandalorian picked the planet specifically in the hopes that no one would find him and so there has to be conditions in which you can hide and not be found and that's the other Star Wars the issue was that when he said that I thought it was like wait hold on but the fobs like how can you hide from them exactly that's the implication of the fobs but it is I think it is answered if you just give the fobs a range limitation by you know planetary that means he could never ever move again because the more time passes the more planets get narrowed down which means even if they never find him on that planet for some crazy reason he can never go to another planet ever because the fobs will instantly activate well no no not necessarily because a couple of things one it would be crazy if he was never found but he was found and I think that's if the fobs work in this way this planet is very secluded but it's already shown that random people do happen there and fly off you know there's the car of people and there's other mercenary like people and so it's not out of the realms of possibility that even though it's secluded that one random bounty hunter who happened to have the fob landed on there to get a bite to eat or to refuel and suddenly the fob gives a ting and that was like several weeks after he landed and then of course you could jump from planet to planet to make you're more secluded because there's heaps of secluded you know backwater planets all throughout Star Wars and in fact moving from one to another would increase your chances of not being found because if one bounty hunter went to a planet scanned you weren't there and went to another and then you went to that planet after they scanned and already knocked it off their search things means you know moving around and that's a common thing in trying to lay things in most things we don't know how we don't know how they meet up in space that's not so we can't like it would be it's just ingenious for me to say well he was refueling ran into someone as to say that they just crossed each other when flying through space as likely as either one so therefore it's very unlikely that they would cross each other exactly exactly exactly and so if the fobs work astronomically low chance exactly so if the fobs work by proximity it makes perfect sense that you might run into someone massive especially in space exactly and so the chances that you'll get close enough to another ship is by an actual location that is a gathering point if it's a refueling station this is purely based on the extent of the proximity and if the proximity is very very big then that just makes it even worse but we're not told that this guy was tracking them through hyperspace they're just fighting in space and it's actually far more likely when you consider the scale of space that they came closer in proximity because of a joint place that they were flying by whether it was a fueling station or something like that it couldn't have happened while he was in hyperspace so I guess he was just flying around at normal speed and then the bouncy hunter found him and then they got to hang on were they fighting close to a planet? um yeah they're close to tataean tataean well there we go that's the gathering point there's a higher likelihood of coming in proximity to the other thing that seems like a problem why would mandalorian go to tataean of all places if fobs activated as soon as you land on that planet well hang on hang on tataean has always been established as a secluded backwater planet it's a place where a lot of criminals are no wait wait wait not calling you out but you just made an argument for how it makes sense that people would find mandalorian on the planet that was secluded as well tataean is one of the most commonly used watering holes from the implication we got technically when you say common in canon it's actually not common it's a secluded one but because it appears in styles so much because of nostalgia factor people assume it to be common but technically it shouldn't be tataean is a backwater planet whose references are we using at that point are you using third party in world to my understanding tataean is secluded backwater outer rim planet it's very very difficult to believe that a place like tataean wouldn't be checked by a bounty hunter he wouldn't have a bunch of bounty hunters especially with the houses hang on I would agree with you if tataean was known and regularly visited by bounty hunters but that's not a separate story he goes there for bounty guild work he finds out that luckily for him the bounty guild no longer operates there then this is a valid criticism because I would absolutely agree if bounty hunters are the ones who are most likely to have the fobs and then mandalorian specifically seeks out bounty hunters for work and to be therefore putting in proximity of the fobs that's a bloody stupid I completely agree I'm trying to play devil's advocate here but only when I feel it's justified when you point out something that is indefensible I'll fully agree I guess now I have a new problem is the way that it works now that if he goes to a planet and then lands there all the bounty hunters who are on that planet their fob is going to instantly activate and they're all going to converge on him is that how fobs work in this that any bounty that lands on any planet will I think chat wants us to acknowledge the huts yes I know job is down okay yeah good very good point I agree Jabba had bounty hunters regularly in his oh and I made a mistake by the way he doesn't necessarily come there for guild work he comes there for work it's unclear that he knew or didn't know that the guild no longer function I suppose that there's more than one guild of bounty hunters though well they refer to it as the guild so I don't know my other point to Fringy is that I think even I might have said taking for granted that all the bounty hunters would have the fobs but in reality there's only a couple hundreds sent out by that guild whatever on that planet and if you consider the many thousands of bounty hunters across the galaxy we could rightly assume wait hold on you could really assume that Mando could expect that only a very small percentage of the overall bounty hunters would have the fob to track the Yoda sorry I just had like a weird brain thing something in episode one Mandalorian gives back the fobs for each of the people that he got which implies that each individual fob is for each individual bounty that you're going for that's how it works that seems to be one fob for one bounty okay so right so does that mean then that so all of the bounty hunters when he went back in episode three all of them had fobs for that bounty that they were just holding that would have been reclassasting and that makes sense because that's the core point that the bounty is being sent out from and it's even implied he says how many fobs did you give out he's like everyone has but why would they keep them yeah that's another problem that doesn't matter anymore the bounty's over or yeah it's a good point and this is all still assuming by the way that it does lock onto them personally right because we kind of like that's what is implied by what's shown the two sort of defenses for the fobs right now is that they work at limited range and that they work based on data to do with your person rather than you personally sorry it could be this and you're right sorry I don't mean to cut you off more but it could be a fob can actually work it can only track one at a time but you can reprogram it to do another one and it could have stored into itself several different information to track multiple targets but you can only tell it to target one at a time and so it could be that the people had the baby Yoda fob the bounty's done I'll switch it over to my next target and the fob is you could have options on it again this is I'm looking into it pretty much but if I was to make a fob I would say alright track the most valuable target all the time and put that up to the top and if you made that a automatic feature baby Yoda was the most valuable bounty before it turned off okay it defaults to the next most valuable one and then now baby Yoda bounty is back on bang fob switches over to tracking the only individual one target at a time but it could do it automatically that's a logical enough thing why would Mando have like four different fobs why would he have four and then give him in you can track one at a time you can only hunt people one at a time just go to a planet switch it between the four you're right that would be a thing because you could just do it with one track one switch it over track another switch it over and use one at a time having multiple the idea that they have to be programmed specifically by certain people I'm pretty sure that Carl Weathers even says that he does something Mahler maybe can help me we did just watch it doesn't Carl Weathers doesn't he say that he has to program them or he's the one who passes them out or which episode remember I forget either way it's just a small thing honestly I think I agree with you it actually makes more sense that only the bounty leaderships can put a bounty on a fob because otherwise anyone could just pick up a fob put a bounty and say hey bounty hunter can you go kill someone I'm not really paying you chat is screwing up a lot here one of them said pucks and fobs are the same thing they're not the same thing pucks are the little discs that give you their face and the fobs are like the trackers yeah we assume pucks are they look like pucks and they have their face on them we know not unreasonable to assume they have other information on them but it's like or it's an identifier it's not a tracker it's more like you're a it's like a wanted toaster on the target and someone else said that you don't even know if the pucks or fobs track the target it's like a homing beacon that's what fobs basically like beats ladder when you get closer and that's how did the bounty hunters who were coming for them like yeah it tracks them like it does and he gives the fobs back as if I am done with these you take them so that they can be reprogrammed for different people reprogrammed for someone else also I just want to say this is all all of this is underneath the looming specter of the fact that never once in any of the eight episodes is it even mentioned how to get rid of a fob tracking you someone else yeah see I don't think you can I think the only way is to get out of the proximity and I think that's explained by Mandalorian's actions in going to a secluded planet just fly but they never wear off that's the thing fobs don't ever turn off so yeah so many things to address in chat this is getting weird so yeah somebody said that there was no baby yoda fob it's like what about an episode 3 where all of the bounty hunters could burst a baby yoda fob there was only a baby yoda fob there was no baby yoda puck that was the point he says no puck also Kirill said fobs track the implanted id chips every citizen has what are you talking about when was that established implanted chips what was that people are not going to be never heard that and why would baby yoda have one he said this whole discussion is redundant you can't just make shit up from other stuff yeah and people will take them out the first thing that you're going to do is you're going to take it out imagine the black market value for that you could totally pay surgeons to do that yeah and you can put them on other people and how and send them off and that's a whole other mess that we definitely don't want to get into but yeah people are going to do that I think season 2 will be able to either confirm or deny what the hell is going on with these fobs the funny thing is I just looked at the wikipedia page for it it is dry as a bone it's tracking tracking fobs with devices used by bounty hunters to track their quarries the bounty hunter would return the fobs after capturing their bounty as proof of capture in 9aby the bounty hunter's guild handed out tracking fobs to its hunters a bounty hunter simply known as the Mandalorian returned his fobs after capturing all of his quarries it's like thanks to that I think it could salvaged if they made some of these limitations that are at least shown and you could connect the dots but there's a big flaw that it's not explained and there are still problems that don't get me wrong like all the fobs turning on randomly and the fact that they all suddenly have it so there are still issues there it's just at the moment for me it can be explained and so that helps me at least okay I can watch it and not have the fobs stand out as this glaring problem is breaking a whole show I can keep watching and enjoying it and also we have the empire the empire is looking for baby Yoda the fact that the empire is not using fobs and tracking him down wherever he goes is something that they are going to have to address if they want to have good writing yeah I would agree considering everything we know it blows my mind that they didn't send a faction of stormtroopers to just go and get baby Yoda with the information they had okay so my thoughts on that is that except at the very end when there's a very large imperial presence the stormtroopers are hiding out in a bunker and they're trying to lay low and it seems like the empire factions are trying to avoid republican the new republic so how do you explain that finale it was about to say the end so get me wrong I said what are they doing in the finale it's like they're specifically trying to capture Yoda it's like wow you guys probably should have done this in the fucking pilot it would have been a good idea the most defensible thing you could say is that they couldn't be bothered they wouldn't want to use their resources but they got the money so yeah we'll throw out a bounty they have enough resources to start killing their own men willy-nilly oh my god so which is a port that I hated the other thing stormtroopers are notoriously incompetent I want to highlight by the way as James Moore has just pointed out if everyone had ID chips wouldn't Vader have found the rebels way easier I don't know about this the implant thing just drop it someone else said you can't take the chip out because you can't interact in normal society it's like what's this doing that is no there's no like system where you go to a bar and they scan your ID chip before you can buy anything you get the money and they give you a drink yeah it's credit people have chips as well yeah I don't know the fobs are causing loads of fundamental issues I love that this is the first thing we've talked about it's lost it like an hour I want to play I know going further is not justified in the plot but I'm down the rabbit hole and I like playing devil's advocate okay so what is yeah this is very much a there are potentially there might be explanations for things but that's basically also that's very wishful thinking considering we felt this way a lot over the past with a lot of different franchises like they'll explain it they don't well that's the exactly this could be so contradicted and everything I say is just shoved you know back in my foot and mouth kind of crap shoved back in my face in season 2 if they contradicted this stuff and so but at the moment all I'm saying is that there are ways to explain it and I shouldn't have to and it's bad writing that I need to even in the first place all right one of the reasons why I like to try and see okay is there a way to make the way it's like a writing exercise if I was going to make if I was writing this how would I justify it to make it you were writing season 2 how would you make it all make sense post exactly exactly and so one of the ways that you could explain is that a fob is potentially very dangerous technology that falls into the wrong hands if anyone gets it and could code anyone's basic information and track who they want to kill whoever they want and the guild seem to be they're accepted in society as I'm not even sure if they consider necessarily evil they seem to be these bounty hunters are good they help us deal with criminals and you know people skipping bail and all these things and so it could be that fobs have a very like there could be behind a massive code that only the bounty hunter guilds have the codes to be able to encode a fob to track someone and not even the empire has something like that or so it can't be abused in the wrong hands essentially as one way you could try and spin it I want to defend you as well chance someone said you're writing the script for them she has not saying this happened this is the truth he's saying it's an option and he's also acknowledged that they haven't explained it which is not a good thing which is bad writing isn't it? it's terrible you need to go to these extensions it's totally cool to explore options in terms of how it could make sense I'm okay with that but I do I will again reiterate it is an extreme weakness of the writing as well that it is not even suggested of how to get rid of them and if there's not a way to get rid of the tracking which I find very hard to believe then they should say you can't get rid of the fob it's you know we have to go through the people who did something I don't know I think that one is actually more explicitly implied by Mandalorian trying to get out of the range by going to a secluded planet I think that if you if it was impossible to escape the fobs and again this could like the options are his eye that are bloody idiot because the only way to if you can't break the fob tracking the only thing you can do is to get the bounty withdrawn which means you have to go to the source and fight them and so it's hard to be on belief that it's just trying to run away when you can't run away from these things that's the only that's one option and the other option is that you can get out of their range and that seems to be the more logically consistent one and I think that one is actually implied quite strongly in the show I think it's quite a strong indictment on the people who were around baby Yoda protecting it that they just stated a position that apparently the Empire knew about like you should probably have kept moving I guess I don't know we don't know what they were doing they didn't did they know that the Empire wanted them because technically this wasn't even just the Empire was a what one guy within the technically one guy people had come there before oh yeah when I say the Empire I'm mainly talking off kiddie in the first episode said other people had come and they all ended up dead I try to help them okay and yeah like I said I'm not necessarily referring to the Empire when I say the Empire it's just the bad guys in Mandalorian who are organizing the whole thing they kind of look like the Empire someone said pops and pucks trash writing no pucks make total sense pucks are a wanted poster I'm cool with them yeah their digital wanted posters their dossiers on who you're trying to find what they look like last on location maybe next of kin age stuff like that that makes a lot of sense and the fobs are only done depending on how they work well well could you say at least that it's implied quite strongly in the show that they work by range and proximity I'm not sure that it is strong I'm not sure that's the thing proximity yes it might be but what again like I said how big the proximity is is it's totally unknown I agree it's unknown it could be galaxy spanning it could be certain systems it could be a solar we don't even know so that the extremity of the proximity is not only a phrase you don't hear often but it is really important as a detail for yeah because it would it would not only influence how easily they would have found but it would have influenced the decisions that Manda would have made because i.e. if it was for a whole system it's like oh this causes problems if it's for a planet then maybe it could work but if it's for a system then yeah you're screwed there's no way that you can escape a fob and just to address the people in chat saying that I'm talking too much it's because I'm doing the defense okay and so in play and by the way we're all pretty good friends at this point people like stop interrupting each other it's like we're fine we're okay don't worry about us we're okay um let's put that in the the old cupboard close the door and lock it up well I was gonna say fobs will come up as we proceed so we will what we'll have to do is critique the criticism based on the two different assumptions about how the fobs work I suppose but I actually think it's not a bad idea that we started with fobs because there are a few aspects that kind of go through all of the episodes that aren't nest that are they are in specific places but across eight episodes yeah so maybe Mandalorian's armor should we talk about that before because I think sorry to interrupt but I think the main kind of run of our discussion here is going to be trying to pick apart all the things that we found wrong with it and I'm probably going to be playing devil's advocate because I'm the only one who is there are things that I'll criticize too don't get me wrong but I think before we do that then should we at least point out the things that we felt were good or enjoy we kind of did that already I have a list that I didn't give go for it well we talked about the production quality that I thought was really really good now in terms of the Mandalorians character I think there are a couple of ways you could look at it because he makes some dumb decisions okay I liked his character and I think I liked his character because we were talking about Mando I liked the concept and that concept was consistently represented of the lone bounty hunter mercenary doing his own thing I personally liked his reserved personality and the emotion that they were able to convey in dialogue body language even with the helmet on we don't see that often and it was refreshing for me to see and I appreciated and enjoyed it Master Chief kind of emoting and I was indeed towards him because he had a good heart ultimately he decided to save baby Yoda and things like that and he showed loyalty to friends and other stuff this part I I don't know just gush away you can object my positive points those will probably pop up as we go through each episode alrighty then so those will be addressed over the discussion of the episodes with points and stuff we have when I left we had brought up the armor had we discussed that well because you disappeared Chad wanted to sort of dive a little bit more into one of the things that he liked well several I have a bit of a list that I think that these are for me fairly strong positive elements that go in the show's favor and apply more broadly like because also something that I just really enjoyed one he was a good fighter he was talented but he was not like unbeatable actually really like that they showed him struggling on many different levels and failing at many points and I think there was a decent balance of them showing him competent but also being out beaten by other people who also competent he wasn't unstoppable and that made for a more engaging kind of protagonist and for me like it wasn't always the fact that he was always going to win because you know that has failed many times already his life had needed to be saved and that may again just added to the strength of his character of all to make me I like him I like overall as a character for for those for those things I'm just going to cut you off because somebody made a super chat and it directly acknowledges me and I think it's a bad point friggy if FOB's have system size range they're screwed and then he said there are 70 million worlds please grow a sense of scale alright so 70 million planets in a galaxy is a very very small number there are hundreds of billions of planets in our galaxy so that if that's what Star Wars has said is how many planets there are in a galaxy then Star Wars has a very narrow scale for how big galaxies are it has to be one way or the other I think the point was it's a very large scale in terms of the number of planets you would need to try and find for sure but the issue that is with Star Wars is that they've always kind of played a bit fast and loose with the nature of space anyway you know what I mean like there's always been some stuff planets show up consistently with a huge amount of them Tatooine is the best example Tatooine shows up all the time everyone's going back there but what I find interesting is that when they do go to a different planet it seems like the fed base still criticizes it like Jakku was like oh this is definitely not Tatooine guys or I mean technically there should be a lot of other desert planets and using the same one people criticise it when you use a different one because it's like it's wide guys come on for people saying it's just Tatooine but a different desert planet it's like well somebody's now said 70 million habitable worlds or something but that's still like how does Tatooine show up all the time then like 70 million inhabited planets really I wonder how many planets are in the outer rim or habitable planets are in the outer rim well I guess that's the thing right when we're talking about systems as well and this was something that came up in more of Captain Marvel video where like I think we made the point that are the solar system like if you define the boundaries of the solar system you could either say until Pluto or you could say to the full extent of the Oort cloud which is about three light years people got really testy over that yeah like depending on which one you interpret the whole idea of fobs will detect you depending on which star system you're in couldn't it just mean that if you're going at hyperspace and you're travelling sorry we shouldn't get caught up on the fobs again we'll just get back to keep going with what you liked about Mando specifically well yeah those are all the reasons why I like Mando Laureate and the thing for me if I could enjoy the main character I could generally enjoy a TV show overall and that's also what got me through the main character and so I thought I counted that as a strength to this TV show in terms of like making a good character for the things you were trying to achieve in the series I think Mando Laureate himself was done mostly well even if you were trying to judge it on objective scales of what makes a good character and then my standards would be what type of character do you want for the purposes of the series and I thought he did it quite well and not to say there isn't dumb things he does he absolutely does but yeah and also the fact that it was refreshing to see once again one of the callbacks to one of the classic staples of the lone hero kind of thing and I like that archetype that got enjoying it out of me as well the nature of the storytelling not to say there wasn't a lot of issues in terms of the logical justification actions like there's some big problems especially like I don't will get there but you know the the guy when they bunk it up and the guys like you have so many hours to give in so there's a lot of dumb things there but in terms of the nature of the storytelling overall it was simple and straightforward and the propositions of the problems of the episodes were very easily understandable you need to do this or this is in your way or that's it and bang and then everything revolved around that and I enjoyed the simplicity and clear nature of that style of storytelling especially coming out of the Witcher where every episode was so bloody convoluted you couldn't understand what was going on most of the time and so and I think the simple nature of these overarching plots went in the series strength that was a strength for the series especially for what it was the type of story that was again the lone gunslinger kind of hero so really good strength again improved my opinion of it I loved baby Yoda I thought baby Yoda was absolutely brilliant I hated baby Yoda healing but I very cute very enjoyable just on screen and even just the small things like I was watching it with my kids the other day and the scene where Mando is fighting the girl for the first time and they roll around and they shoot the guns at each other and then they just look at cuts to baby Yoda just sitting there slurping my kids busted out laughing like you wouldn't believe and it was a good example of subtle comedy we'll get to that scene we'll get there I was just going to say quickly as well this is criticism in chat that I find hilarious rags and mollus seem to be obsessed with applying real world Milky Way constraints to Star Wars that's the first half which by the way me and rags really it was more fringy talking about that Milky Way is larger than the Star Wars universe if we go by galaxies that doesn't even make sense well the thing is is what I'm seeing here and it's a bit of a problem of trying to reach into the extended universe because I don't recall ever in any of the movies where they said that there are 70 million inhabited planets in the galaxy and where they said how big the galaxy was so you really do not want to dive into scale when it comes to this because it's really just going to become a big problem and secondly they said all of their problems could be applied to Lord of the Rings what do you mean? I can't understand that I'm just like what? anyway I was going to say how much I in terms of Mandalorian as a character I hate him I never want to see another character like him I despise him I think he's borderline autistic with the decisions that he makes I cannot believe that a character who makes these consistently stupid decisions is alive after doing this job that long the amount of times that he shot the amount of times that he just has plot armor the amount of times that he does things that are just insanely brain dead his inability to use his equipment well just I cannot believe that he has been doing this job for this long and hasn't been killed a thousand times over okay sorry go it is extremely well we'll stop there because I'll get to the next part later on as we progress through the episode that'll be easier to illustrate it then but I do not like Mando at all as a character I am absolutely I don't ever want to see another Mandalorian character as a character so hang on I find that interesting because sorry you go for me I was just going to say I think I might sit in a nice little chair here which is why I figured I'd say I think my my view is that you got a lot of things with Mando that if you had spent more time developing it as in you extend the character development you could have had something really really good and I think the things you can latch onto are so we have a character who you know is a gruff hard and mercenary but then we he gets to the point where he you know baby Yoda makes him sort of maybe changes philosophy and even the idea even in episode 4 where you have on the whole idea of him potentially settling down these are all really good ideas but they're good ideas for later if you know what I mean I feel like you need a lot more time with gruff hard and Mando and then the progression for him with baby Yoda sort of softening his exterior and then you can start reaching into him developing more relationships I think that if they had taken it a bit slower it could have been really good but I think that it rushed it to the point where they wasted a lot of the potential that they had for a for that sort of bounty hunter character I don't dislike Mandalorian though I like him enough I just think he's a idiot yeah I think it's pretty tough to say he isn't an idiot based on all the things he does well we're gonna go to them one by one because I think some of his decisions are far more defensible than perhaps you're feeling also you sound a bit muffled again I don't know if anything's changed oh really? I don't know I could bring it closer what did you do last time that made it change was it complicated or no well I unplugged and plugged back in but I did change the sensitivity just recently and if that's made it worse I'll put it back in can you just for curiosity's sake do and unplug and plug it back in and see if it makes a difference I don't know what it is but you sound cleaner or you sounded cleaner before I'm okay to deal with it it's fine I was just curious if you could I can I can so continue talking I'll be back in a sec very well and also there is a just to be clear as Fringy said I have no idea with the I I have no problem with the idea that Mando befriends a bounty that he has some connection with based on his past I have no problem with that as a concept I have no problem with the concept of him finding a buddy or a partner I have no problem with any of this stuff in concept all the stuff is absolutely fine but when we look at all the stuff that he does as a character especially his plans tactically in combat how he executes missions and a lot of the other decisions that he makes we it is it leaves us baffled when we watch him and we try to find out how he rationalizes the things that he does I guess it's all the problem of he's meant to be a really accomplished talented bounty hunter best in the parsec yeah he doesn't make the decisions that you would expect him to make you know what I mean like it doesn't seem consistent if you are the most well known most famous bounty hunter in the parsec you are a Mandalorian you've trained for this your whole life you've trained to be a bounty hunter for all this long you have strict codes of honor this is what you do you are an elite bounty hunter it shocks me all the decisions that he makes in a lot of these episodes we're doing lots of generalization we need to get stuck into some references because I think the specifics are going to be the one that will either I guess lean me more to feel your views are justified or if I feel they can be more defensible because the thing for me like if a you know a decent amount to a portion of those decisions can be explained and they're not as blatantly stupid that could solve some of the issues but also it does seem a lot of your issues are with his actions which technically that is part of characterization but in terms of the character itself it's going to go down to like own personality and how the character has in regards to their motivations their goals and stuff like that and so overall I think the betrayal of his character in the sense of the subtle body language the ways I feel like his character as how the character is made and as to if he is dumb or not well that will be a good discussion well I guess I actually like because you're probably best suited to answer this question one of the things that we observed was when he gets into fights he really relies on his armor to save him there are many parts where he gets shot in the face and shot in the torso where it's like wow it's pretty lucky that you have this best guard you know like this steel armor because you'd be dead like does it make sense for somebody to fall back so heavily on their armor in fights no if I was to say but so there's there's a lot of caveats to this right because I did of course on Mandalorian's armor and I criticise it saying it's not covering enough okay and it's awfully convenient that every shot that seems to hit him is always landing on where the armor points are so I have legit criticised this as well alright but the response and it was interesting to hear a lot of people's responses about in terms of Audi armor he's technically wearing more armor than the standard soldier does in modern warfare but the standard soldier doesn't fight the way the Mandalorian does they take cover and it's like it's the last standard soldiers don't rely on their armor it's the last you know the exact it's the last point of defense just in case they're absolutely right and so yeah I would say that he is not his armor way too much if the armor covered most of his body and didn't have openings then he would be justified in leaving himself open as much as he does and just tanking it and then I would say yeah I would agree so when you look at the fights there are so many instances where it's like wow if that shot was a couple just a little bit lower or a little bit higher you'd just be dead just to clarify right he tanks well tanking it is fine with me because the best guy that he gets hit and he doesn't get hurt by 13 different blaster shots throughout the season 8 knives yeah we did a little tally this is obviously subject to like we might be off by one or two but I counted 13 blaster shots that he blocked with his armor 8 knives the pterodactyl and an explosion his armor saves him from dying from both of those that's a lot of impact and it's like what did he do before I agree completely but I guess for me this is why and it's not really doesn't redeem it by any measure but it lessens it for me as well and it's the fact that he is actually getting hit in some instances because if he didn't have the armor the only other option is for the hits to never land at all which is technically what we see in the old hours the original trilogy they're not wearing armor sorry everyone just misses unless a crit is convenient in a plot for someone to get injured and then it's only a shoulder hit in Leia in Return to the Jedi and for me I feel that is more indefensible than the Mandalorian actually getting hit so the fact that he is getting hit I feel is actually a little bit better than what we've seen in other styles I guess the problem is that when you look at a lot of the fights that he gets into it's like he puts himself in these very dangerous situations almost expecting that his armor is going to save him I remember in our episode 6 when he was fighting in the prison there was this instance where he was fighting some of the robots it's like dude you are like this is really dangerous I'm not sure why there's a lot of John Wick 2 3 moments there's just no way he shouldn't be shot there's all of these a lot of these fights that happen where you just are wondering why hasn't he been shot 100 times now I want to clarify people are saying it's good that he gets hit in the armor than not at all he gets hit not at all a lot too loads of shots missing that happens as well but the thing is if he wasn't wearing the armor the only other option is to have him never get hit which is exactly what they did in the original trilogy the whole meme of stormtroopers not having to aim is because of plot armor and it happens they can have him act in the show as if he knows he's vulnerable I agree completely I'm not saying this is purple but what is getting hit for me is at least better than what we have seen previously because in the original trilogy there are so many points where the heroes are standing right in front of people and they're never getting hit and this is in Empire and Return of the Jedi so the defense that they were purposely missing on the Death Star doesn't apply because it's consistent throughout all of Star Wars well his the only times the laser bolts are on part of it they're not able to defend themselves or it's a convenient the pot to get hit so this is just it's bad in other things too yeah I know I agree this isn't a good argument but for me it makes it at least a little bit better than it was before and I can still enjoy the original series with the horrible plot armor that's everywhere and to me the plot armor is actually technically a little bit lessened because of the armor he's wearing even though it's executed poorly I guess the thing is you said before something like if they didn't have him getting hit then it would be that he doesn't get hit but I guess my thing is I immediately think of okay well maybe we can do something with this where it's like how about we have an episode where he's still got his armor and you know he occasionally gets hit we dial it back a lot but then we have in one episode maybe it's later in the first season or sometime in the second season when we're in the trust arc or something we have him get shot like in the leg it's a really bad one like it's not a shoulder one where he brushes it off it's like he gets shot in the leg and he's in big trouble I want to stand up for the OT by the way the only time the Stormtroopers do really great in the opening of A New Hope and when they don't shoot Luke and Leia and Han and Chewie you do remember that they're supposed to be letting them think that they're escaping right yeah that's in the original in the original one right so the Stormtroopers well finished so a new hope Stormtroopers are actually pretty good from everything we understand about them Empire Strikes Back they're good in Hoth, they're terrible in Bespin and then Return of the Jedi everyone knows that it's ridiculous what happens in Return of the Jedi so what I'm trying to say is they nailed it in A New Hope they were 50-50 in Empire and then they fucking farted in Return of the Jedi and now they're taking that to the nth degree in the sequel trilogy and Mandalorian Mandalorian is arguably worse because they establish its canon that the Stormtroopers are stupid I love that I just really love that I thought that was great I hate it but we'll get to it when we get to episode 6 and 8 and also to address something that's in the chat someone said I blindly call him dumb I'm not blindly calling him dumb I've watched the show twice this is the thing a lot of people aren't going to take it seriously because we haven't been calling him stupid we haven't got the references out yet it's going to take a while chat it's a big one because we're still going on the things I like I just wanted to get back to my leg shot go for it the idea that you have an episode where he gets shot in the leg and it's a serious injury it's not a TV show he'll walk it off like he's in big trouble and then we spend maybe the next episode he's with what was the name of the lady bounty hunter that he's working with we can have her there yeah Karadun that's right so you have an episode where she's got to help nurse him back to health and help him get out of this location that's swarming with stormtroopers and the two have to work together you can find ways to make it to where he has his armor and sometimes protects him but you can still have him actually be vulnerable and get shot I don't really like the idea that either he gets hit with his plot armor or he doesn't get hit at all I agree completely it's still convenient and contrived but I have to also acknowledge that it seems to be just as convenient and contrived in the plot armor of the previous ones and I don't think it ruins a movie for me because I enjoyed the previous one that's one of the problems I agree it's still a problem absolutely so we'll get into the details later I do find that after what we see here is bullet proof or sorry not bullet proof blaster proof it is shocking that not everybody is wearing armor I agree completely inconsistency of the blasters and what they can penetrate bugs the hell out of me with Star Wars overall this is a problem that I've always had it has bugged me more and more as time goes on Mandalorian has made it worse but when we start to see bounty hunters who do this for a living private security things of that nature nobody has armor which is very strange considering that apparently a lot of stuff is blaster proof we see droids that are blaster proof we have the best car stuff and I'm not saying all armor has to be best car but it is clearly a well established thing that there is blaster proof stuff and not even that apparently nobody uses it to go on to your point even further there are random transportational platforms at hover that have blaster proof sightings on them that's how common blaster proof material is that you can make crappy hover platforms out of it and so the fact that no one is making armor or shields out of this material is bafflingly stupid and that applies to Star Wars as a whole like it's been a problem for a long time and by the way it might be too much for grunt soldiers or even poor bounty hunters apparently the fledgling new republic has the money to put it on their security droids that guard prisoners on ships I could put it on crappy hover platforms yeah this is like a lot of stuff is bullet proof like if you pulled the panels off of worthless carriages and slapped it on yourself with duct tape you would save your life like it's insane how prevalent it's very prevalent now I have body armor and if you do this for a living if you're a bounty hunter if this is your life if you're in dangerous places then you are shelling out the cash to cover your chest and your head yeah I agree completely massive pet pee for me and it's not expensive this crap is everywhere used on so many things what's the point of blasters then what's the point of guns in the real world then Mandalorian Episode 3 when he's surrounded by everyone he literally jumps onto a hover platform that has a metal siding that blocks everything okay even his disintegration rifle which is insanely powerful on the scales of destructibility of the weapons we see in Star Wars and I kind of like that it was so powerful it required a cartridge for each shot I like that kind of design element to it the AT-ST Walker blocked one of those shots on its flat armor like it was nothing and so the armor is really effective nothing and they even say that there is nothing on the planet that can take out the legs of that AT-ST and I'm assuming that is including his ship which is like holy crap massive guns so I like when there's something like absolutely indefensible guys I'm all on board with it this is absolute well so how should we format this should we just go Episode 1 try and find the good and the bad I think so by episode well surely surely you can fit them in as we go I'll try I don't like the idea that we're taking so long we haven't even started talking about specific references and episodes yet we're going very slowly and slowly is fine with me but also I realise you don't have all day right Shad I'm going through my list I'm just looking for any if there's any comments that I need to state broadly that won't come up individually and I think I can bring up things individually as they come up I'll just have to interrupt and say more specifically yeah alright so I think we're good to go can I go to the toilet I'll be back damn it use a cup I'll be back in a sec guys and this is just a little bit of a retread I guess but my first point that I have for Episode 1 on my little sheet here my little park notes my little bullet points is in the very first scene we see Mando getting shot luckily in the armour not 3 inches to the right where it would have hit him in the like neck lucky I guess but yeah he got me started on the whole thing of he doesn't even react when the guy pulls out his blaster and points it at him he just like knows it's gonna hit him in the armour he doesn't even he's very confident yeah very confident that his terrible armour will save his life all the time and it does well yeah one of two things will happen they will miss him or they will hit him in the armour and that's one of the things that can happen but yeah in my note here I says how did Mando survive this long before he got his armour kind of insane how Mando is still alive and doing this stuff it just seems that as many times as he gets shot especially with when you tally up the amount of time that takes place in the show where he's actually in combat in the amount of times he gets shot it is insane that he hasn't been killed yet many many many times over there is I expect him to be very professional like professional bounty hunter in the way that he moves around and engages in combat David and Chas said people do win the lottery though people do win the lottery yes lucky things could happen yes yes and it is very very lucky all the time how he has like imagine you're playing a video game right and like I know some games have heat maps for where you shoot people I mean you get shot at enough times you're just gonna not hit someone's armour it's just insane especially if you get hit 13 times that quickly expand this over the course of his lifetime of work from when he started to you know the show taking place in quote unquote modern times I don't believe that he should be alive so the experience bounty hunter can't be confident what's okay so like imagine in the real world that you have Kevlar armour and you just decide to walk out in the middle of an open battlefield just shooting at people and they're like what pretty good at this so you know I can just kill everybody this is not he does not have armour covering his neck and his upper torso and his sides and his thighs and legs he is not like dressed up like a renaissance knight here all right he is not very heavily armoured like his head his chest his shoulders shoulders those are those are favorite places to shoot Mandalorian um but yeah uh definitely a problem that I have it really ruins my ability to believe he's alive up to this point I don't want to just progress too far without Shadow diversity here though like again armour in the real world especially with soldiers and there are parallels that can be done here you don't just walk out like if you have body armour like let's say that your chest and your head is covered with armour right you still have the gaps in between you still have your neck you still have your arms getting shot in the thigh is a big deal because of the blood vessels stuff like that you don't just walk out into the middle of oh I don't know say courtyard full of dozens and dozens and dozens of enemies who are all aware you're there and want to kill you you don't do that because you can't rely on your armour like let's say that the armour will stop 90% of shots that are made and hit you that's a 1 in 10 chance that you get hit whenever somebody shoots at you and when your life is at the line not taking those odds man I'm just like every action hero should be dead that's the entertainment we want to watch first off that's not a very good argument secondly like you can look at examples in movies and TV shows where the main character has to actually like make good decisions and that's the reason why they like John Wick 1 there's a lot of instances where he does really good manoeuvres that take him like you know a situation where he is in danger but he makes a really good decision you're absolutely right John Wick 1 had really good choreography to help him build a fire John Wick 2 was trash he was like in front of people shooting at him never getting hit and so he's got his Kevlar suit there's magical plot over I don't know if chat knows I guess just quickly before Shad finishes I love John Wick 1 I assume everyone here loves John Wick 1 we have I have serious problems with 2 and 3 and this is one of the main reasons why and so I think if we're going to be criticising Mandalorian for you know all the shots convenient landing of his armor we need to be consistent because plot armor is everywhere in Hollywood movies John Wick 2 is like one of the best examples and I honestly feel getting hit on armor and having it just be convenient that the armor is protecting him is a lot better than not getting hit at all and having plot armor and both still happen I can't acknowledge that but for me it's an improvement than what we've seen before so I was like alright let's improve it and let's keep the improvement do you know if it's an improvement for me like for other Star Wars I don't even know it's an improvement for me that they constantly get