at sentence that the jedi failed quite a bit. That's true Does that mean you should never have jedi ever again? No Yeah, that's obviously that's obviously stupid And that's exactly you know how a president has failed in your history at some point That means you should never have a president ever again Yeah Why this is who a lot of us sometimes we sometimes we elect bad leaders So we know democracy notice how he's not picking on the actual Like dogmatic elements of the religion He's just saying they failed if he if he made the argument the jedi promote a lack of emotion And that encourages them to make decisions that are inherently against humanity and the living force or something like that That's one thing But no he just says they fucked up at one point and it's like so by implication They didn't mean to do that Right and that's that's the response ray gives him and we don't get an answer for it. He's just like Do you know this is supposed to be lesson two by the way guys Lesson two what so lesson one was he Oh, I thought you said less than oh, right Lesson one he's like the force is this that this that this that oh my god You went into the dark side and runs away. I don't even know what she learned from that as a lesson But hey, whatever lesson two is supposed to be The jedi suck And it ends with her going no, they don't though and then the scene ends It's like what are these lessons? They just they're just him rambling like he's not even Just think about yoda an empire man It's like you're such a You're a bit more focused as a teacher despite being an insane puppet Become he's not even mentioning that the jedi's teaching of emotion suppressing in fear Of anything from the dark side played a big part in his dad becoming Darth Vader Yeah, he didn't mention that which is a flaw with the film and you just invented it and added a wind counter for that It's funny because luke explicitly says i'm going to give you three lessons The third lesson was in the deleted scene Yes, they just they just don't even address it in the actual cut This is gonna end up in my videos. There's a quote from I believe is ryan johnson It could be mark hamill, but they're asked about the third lesson and they say it's for the audience to interpret How funny They're relying on people like this guy writing the script for them. They're like, yeah, what do you think the third lesson was?  How do you go that that was yeah, you got it That's it.  It's incredible that it it's just it gets these reactions though Like look he just argued What what I was just talking about like the actual flaws with the jedi religion If you will is the lack of emotion There's lots to talk about when they talk about that as a separation from any people And uh and cinema wins has just used that as a point in favor of luke's argument when he never mentions it That's how in the chat said I learned three lessons and was never bored ray Was never the park side played a big part in his dad becoming darth vader the lighting in this film is astounding Yeah, I like the lighting Do you guys like the lighting? I like the lighting. Yeah, the lighting was good. Yeah Yeah, thanks for the superficial element. I'm so I'm sensing a theme with what we agree with I The themes themes Wow, that's it for that scene. He's moved on. Okay into all man Snugs broodla Vinicio del Toro is the man just the right amount of creepy mix with cocky irreverence. He's a strong actor Yeah, I guess sure. I don't know about the character myself Yeah, I mean the acting is fine. I guess for whatever he's trying to portray.  Whatever moving on. Give him a win. Go ahead Look, I'm not saying that if these creatures looked more like spiders with reptile skin The sympathy factor may be less.  Yeah, they're just they I immediately thought of treco from the last guardian And apparently a lot of people did too. That's that's what I hear. Yeah Yeah, you don't want to rip off the last guardian. It's not a very good Thing Treco's design is neat That's what we're talking about right now. I I do too, but that's the only neat thing about the last guardian Um, yeah, I think I think we're doing a record here three hours nine minutes. That's Terrifically bad It's worse than usual Hey, that little drunk alien got his payday Okay Oh bottom of the barrel digging here. I mean, he's stealing the joker. Yeah, he's voiced by mark hamill. That's a that's a a win Okay. Well, if nothing else, I guess rose got to put my fist through this whole lousy beautiful town Which is retarded because who does she think has to mop all this up? The child slaves gray. I'm glad we didn't take them with us Honestly honest with you the rich people might after this thing happens go man.  She's like here's a ring Now why would you save the kids children instead of saving the animals? Do you value? What are you not peter? I guess not No, because if they were peter they would have killed the horses Here we go again. It's got some fun first-person shots through the streets. Yeah I've got some some nice shots. I guess. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, and you know hardcore henry had a lot First-person shots too, but Prometheus had some really good shots Prometheus has also Got other things Similarly to the last Jedi First person shots through the streets Even the entry ramps are spiral staircases and rich down. Okay. Yeah, and it doesn't make any sense He skipped right over all the convenience. I know that it's like only talk about the good things So I guess this is exactly what I'm I should expect. It's just superficial You know pickings That's a good thing. You're here guy from before For this ship that we need You it's specifically. Why did you hate your father? Do you have something a cow or something you could put on? Um Meme win and that's why it's a problem the fact that he just said meme win ha ha ha in a scene We're moments later. I'm talking seconds.  And she actually tears up for it perfect to have a joke just before that with a guy Stop being naked. That's the awkward memes. He's got pants on Uh, whether or not this joke works for you people in audience and whoever else is fine I don't really mind. I just god damn hate that they put it right next to something so serious right next to it Yeah, it's a complete total shift Come on adam driver's workout routine being so wide that you're memed isn't a bad thing Let the past die kill it if you have to Kylo says that and then ray immediately goes to the dark cave on the island to get answers about her Past his point is that it doesn't matter where you're from just like it doesn't matter where he's from Choose what to be um We can ignore all the choices.  It's basically the same scene in empire with a different no How Please explain luke goes to the dark cave to confront vader before he's ready And in addition to probably being really confused learns that to kill vader is to kill himself with My interpretation I don't think that's I don't think that's the way that scene was supposed to be interpreted Pretty sure this is foreshadowing what happens in episode six being the to kill vader Is to become vader potentially Yes, that's why luke is inside the mass and that the Yeah, to be to you aren't so different you and I sort of angle um To kill vader is to kill himself. I don't think that's what that was going for I'm interested to see what the chat feels about that one because maybe I've missed an interpretation of that scene It's almost it's almost the opposite to kill vader Is to become him Yeah, which is someone said that's a radar response interpretation To kill vader is to kill himself. I don't I don't think that's what if I kill vader. I'll die. No Become vader Uh, what else does he say? He sought out to destroy. It's very kind of simple Ray goes to find out who her parents are and presented only with herself I mean if you frame it like that, it's sort of is connected But most people were saying this was already a ripoff of luke's scene They were like, yeah, she goes into a creepy hole and sees weird visions.  We didn't need any of it, but There we are the only herself Which is her first hint that she has no one but herself For me, this is the most compelling part of this film Oh, wow Oh, I mean, you know, wait, did you just did you just cinema win that? I'm just saying it's compelling Ray goes to find out who her parents are and is presented with only herself Which is her first hint that she has no one but herself For me, this is the most compelling part of this film. He actually did win that. That's not even You just said it was compelling to you that counter so pointless Which is retarded because she should hate this man Yeah, with every fiber over being They're not see this is a different movie. This is what Ryan's biggest mistake was.  They've just been brought into it That would be cool. But that's not what we're dealing with. These people have a history.  I don't blame them It seems like she's got a bit of a crush on kylo and you're like, why It's kind of creepy. What do you think about the whole father figure being murdered by him? I would why yeah, she only tried to kill him three days ago, but you know now Now it's different because like I said he tells her luke made me a monster That means i'm okay with kylo now because it's luke's fault. It's like what Makes sense to me. So somehow feels so relatable picking up with a force of weight I've always said it's relatable and just didn't explain why I just said this is relatable. It's like Do you think he's ever been in this kind of position where the person he was trying to date like killed their own parent and he was like, oh I can relate on a cosmic level to this scene. Why is why is logic muted? Is he e-fapping? I mean you don't want to let people hear that through a microphone. I think he might be collecting coffees He did say he was very very tired um Picking up with tfa left off ryan did as much as he possibly As much practically as he could even shots like the hut blowing apart were practical Bacon's left off ryan did it? Oh, yeah. No, I actually I knew that as well and again. Yeah, that's cool. Cool practical effect.  It's confusing because it's just like He is pretty good with that But if the film's trainer established that he wanted to come here to die Was he training as well? What did he become like kind of shitty after 10 years of not doing it? I don't know It's the whole thing is confusing. But yeah, we get to see him fight with an antenna.  He's right a lot of people with his garbage nonsense I think this is where ryan lost a lot of people and I honestly understand your frustration luke should be better than this But honestly, that's kind of what the film is about why luke is the way he is. He's not perfect even our heroes have flaws Yeah, uh heroes have flaws that means they can do literally anything and you can just run it off with heroes have flaws Honestly, that's kind of what this film is about like Uh, just just take it, you know captain america. He um, he runs away screaming from a fight and uses a little girl as a shield against someone throwing a knife at him That's in character because heroes have flaws I kind of want to see that It's why luke is the way he is He's not perfect even our heroes have flaws last time he approached the dark side It was because vader had threatened leia.   Then he's like kylo what's going on like why?   Anyone's ever asked for him. They just want him to help And they just want him to help They don't expect him to just snap his fingers and solve all the problems and face down the entire army by himself Why did luke lair and han even bother in the original trilogy?  Yeah, oh, yeah, they kind of did Like they kind of like they in their own ways helped bring it down. Oh, shit It's not gonna go the way you think the thing I'm just realizing is that luke was totally on his way to burn the jedi text when rey arrived Which is why he changed right back out of these white robes when she got there makes even more sense why he'd throw the What He has specific burn down jedi temple attire Hey, man, it's a special occasion Yes, and here the clothes i wear Guys he was on his way to do it. That's why he was standing on the edge of a cliff Where was the torch and the light i'm half convinced he was actually about to throw himself off Now it's my time i gotta do today. Oh, yeah, nothing What does luke do on this island? Aside from fish and drink milk. I think he chats up the frog nun. He's like hey He's just he just fucks him. Oh, how about the uh, he's the only penis on the island How about them how about force how about the force how about that? Oh hear about uh, hear about the do you guys do you guys make youtube videos?  Well, yeah, we know that he that's why he came there Doesn't doesn't inform stop it Yoda Yum Oh my god, it looks so bad. Oh 30 years. That's a whole bunch of wins Yoda always the trickster. What oh my god. What?  You see this is why I say these people aren't smart. These people are insane They're nuts That's your opinion It's like they live in a separate pocket dimension. Oh my god I mean you gotta see this wealth See we even need to like wash the rest of this video because I don't think it's gonna be Oh my god, another one I just posted Oh my god, these michael sarah me Oh somebody I don't know if these these accounts posted it at the same time. They both use the same thing but different michael sarah face My god, he looks like a 10 year old in the other one No, that's just michael sarah's face. I know That one's good. Yeah, these range from incredible to like the greatest thing ever made It's michael sarah memes make suffering through this awful video worth it. Yeah, I was gonna say so Yoda always the trickster. Yoda was only a trickster Before revealing to Luke that he was a Jedi master and it was only because he was testing Luke. Yeah, he was acting He was not Insane constantly. This comes back to what Mike was saying in the TLJ half in the bag It's like why is it that he's taken one element of what Yoda did as a test and turned it into his entire character It's kind of weird. I'm not going to say it's a complete betrayal or anything.  That's something that Yoda would do. It's like what?  Oh, hang on. Let me Yoda talking about failure with notes of the piece that played during the x-wing swamp retrieval after his There is no try speech when luke had failed and given up way back then. Well done No, Laura's fine. That was a monster of a sentence. So his argument there of appreciation is that They use the same piece of music, which again, I'm just like Fines just a little bit arbitrary when that scripting is horrible, but um, you know, I just noticed we are like 75 of the way through the movie A few minutes into this 42 minute video apparently he's got a long summary I'll be interested to see how he's at least going to structure that because how does that work? Someone in the chat said mauler feet logic. All I hear is the usual schmucks. Yeah I have to admit after three hours of this. I'm a little I don't know. I don't have a lot to say about this anymore It's I mean he's cycling through the film with very arbitrary sifts points So it's I'm assuming the substance will come in conclusion I should drink more.  Maybe I should just drink it all Maybe you should Yeah, rags has definitely been doing that People are saying his summary is extremely long. Why didn't he have parts of the summary in his actual plot? He's just skipping scenes, essentially. I don't know what the point of this is Also, yeah, the whole failure is the best teacher thing. Um First of all, just tip for writers don't have your theme explicitly stated It tends to be awkward. There there are ways to make it work But that was like so on the nose That people pointing out the failure it makes for the greatest teacher as some kind of profound message of last Jedi It's like yeah, it's as effective as just saying it at that point um because It's confusing because obviously po doesn't fail and yet learns a lesson. He doesn't need so you in terms of narrative He's like, uh, okay um in Makes the mistake of trying to save everybody and learns from rose that he should not do that You know, I mean like the characters people have to skew it to make it make sense.  I don't even know I mean from our perspective. I think she did but confusing After e fapping for three hours Yeah His summary is longer than the not summary.  What is it that makes him seem trustworthy?   See, why would you trust this guy? Oh my god Not about trusting him even I don't even know I guess his he's responding to the argument of why wouldn't she tell him the plan?  So even if she trusts So then then come with me to a private place So I can tell you the plan. It's not even true. They go off in a private conversation the first time he talks to her So Him she has no clue if she can trust the rest of her bridge crew Stop inventing the storyline. She never mentions that she never says anything about not trusting people Especially given that some of them help with pose mutiny later. Yeah, why do you think they do?  It's been Removed since then but hey, why not? Uh, so he said is that why she should have said something to the mutiny? That's what I think I said Yes Poe is threatening to use the last of the fuel the resistance have to push them ahead of the first order as far as Holdu understands the situation that's going to result in the deaths of everyone on board So she rightfully from her point of view Denies the plan because of the hyperspace tracker her plan is foolproof compared to pose And she says you bet the survival of the resistance on bad odds and you put us all at risk That's what she says to him to make him fucking mutiny And then he says well he commits to the mutiny and preps to enact his plan regardless because he's unaware of her plan Which means she's forced to share the plan in order to save everybody on board Because he's put a gun on her So now she has no choice She can't just say go away She has to actually do something a little bit more drastic to be able to save these people Otherwise he's going to waste their fuel and push them away from crate by the way Which is like the perfect safe place right now Um, and also many people already know the plan because they're boarding the transports And if anybody was untrustworthy and they have the means to discover the plan anyway Not to mention that pose shares with holdo that he is under the impression that they are simply going to leave the ship in the transports and hope for the best He knows the significant portion of the plan already as in he can If she didn't trust him with the part that's crate But only the part where they are in transports then they're still at risk of being murdered either way So it doesn't matter. Just tell him the other part of the plan at this point um And once he's told the plan he says the the uh This might actually work line if you remember that so he's completely in favor of it And uh, if she's if holdos only concerned with everybody being alive and well, which I don't think you can debate that Uh, then allowing po to mutiny without sharing the plan is contradictory to her character and her goals as far as she knows It's an awful plan And telling po and the mutiny is the actual plan is the absolute lesser evil Even if she thinks that that will reveal the plan to the enemies that's still better than everyone dying So it puts it puts everyone in one lever push away from death because holdo just decides.  Well, he said it's not something you notice on a first watch So It's not a response is it that's the that's not an argument She kept the plan away from The people to give the audience the impression that this was a hopeless situation It would have been It wouldn't have been Nail biting at all if we were just waiting for them to get to crate from the get-go In fact, it'd be pretty boring unless they do something completely different Uh And that yeah, and that's pretty much it um and I said at the end even patrick willams admits this makes no sense But it furthers the characters in the story making it okay I don't agree with that either but that's much more of a reasonable take the fact that he's admitting it doesn't make sense Huh Does that job you make less sense than patrick willams does that end the conversation about holdo, please And by the way, I noticed the shit out of this when I first watched the film This is my primary complaint. You can ask alex the first thing I want to talk about was holdos plan I think a lot of people were just confused uh Did anyone else's watch together Get assassinated.  Yeah, uh, there is no problem with cinema if your responses you don't notice with it on a first try So you just say that's literally everything Like the whole film could be black and no audio and I could be like no, I didn't notice that myself I was sleeping. I'm blind and deaf So that's that's what everything is Anyway, what is it that makes him seem trustworthy not to mention every time he asks it's in public So even if she trusts him, she has no clue if she can trust the rest of her bridge crew Especially given that some of them help with pose mutiny later My sad world holdo. I am relieving you of your command and then he mutinies Is that when she should have said something? Yes to the mutiny. Yes. I hear you. Yes He was obviously trying to do the right thing.  That's not even relevant.  So of course she has to tell him the plan to prevent him from killing everybody Yeah, this is Trust him doesn't matter. She thinks or doesn't think it's the right thing. It's a matter of saving everyone's lives It's a mixture of frustrating and interesting to try and hear these attempts at justifications And they'll never end because people love this film and they have to figure out how to defend it beyond the subjective It has to be definitive and objective Because his argument right now is objective. He's saying that these things are what happened But they're not and he's totally ignoring other things. It's just You're welcome to like the film, but when you start making things up to defend it it gets frustrating I'm sorry. I've gipped ahead a bit I don't know sending two people on a half-thought-out mission that ultimately leads to further. Oh, sorry. Is he is he criticizing po's idea?   Yeah, it's not even a little bit Because r2 looks like a trash can so He doesn't I mean Even if that's a reference as I was like, yeah, that's a neat use the upside down bin to camouflage That's cool Just like to point out that whether ray knows it or not her clothes know the conflict inside her She was wearing white during her last force meeting with kylo And now it now we close the talk So was yeah, that's so wait, but no he can't say that He can't use that reason because earlier he said luke was wearing his burn down the jedi temple tire and that was white So I don't yeah, that's a bit of dodge. Well, I mean, maybe he's doing that in favor of the light I don't know. It's different for it's different for luke. Someone just highlighted, which I think is fair to mention This is through hindsight. He's making these points as well. So he's not just wrong on their own, but they're wrong in terms of Let's assume the evil bb8 was not caught or be Nazi bb8 didn't spot bb8. Let's say that didn't happen And uh, they tell Poe they're like, yeah, we've disabled the tracker go and then poe hits the lever and they escape And then leia comes into the room and she's like poe.  And then he's like, we disabled the tracker. We're safe And then they are safe and that's it How awkward would that be? Oh, you're devoted. You saved us again. Exactly.  You're now a private Boy, you should be dead by now.   Let's just go to cannibal and hang out. Yeah Welcome the lightness With a heart of gold This is subversion done.  He betrays them in five minutes. Mechanically, it makes no sense You've got a person who has no investment in anything. He admits that they say we need to hire you for a job We're gonna pay you x amount and he says I need a deposit And they go, okay And he says he wants the necklace which they're really disappointed by because it's a family thing and they're like fine Here's the necklace and then he goes great turns out he didn't want the necklace as a deposit He wanted to use it to be able to hack into the door Which is like, oh, that's convenient that she had a necklace And then he gives it back to her and it's like, oh, he has a heart of gold It's like no, he deserves a deposit.  The light is bad It makes no sense Oh where the nurses skatepots are Of course you do Woo-hoo-hoo trader burn it Uh, yeah, I actually like that bit So she thinks he's cowardly throughout the whole film and then he they say how we're gonna escape and he says I know that where the escape pods are and she says, of course you do Yeah, but the whole thing is like, why would she think he's a trader?  Because she found him getting into the escape pod despite the argument that he did it To try and save somebody and she's like now you're coward It doesn't so she should yeah, he's on this mission and she still thinks he's a trader. That's kind of interesting.  I'm sure that seems like a third person humble brag But think about it.   Nearly extinguished the light by not telling anybody so Yeah, her plan still nearly extinguished the light only like one ship made it down to the planet And she took it'll be like to actually stop darling. Yeah to prevent the extinguishment of the light She takes ages on his ship. She's like, I guess I could do the hyperdrive thing I need to watch a few more of them die first Not to mention of the like one ship that made it down. How much was there that made it onto the millennium falcon like 10 So the light is composed of 10 people. No nine people because leia's dead I love the layers like she wanted to protect the light more than be a hero It's like maybe she could have done both if she had shared the plan Yeah, maybe they should have got like autopilot or I just You didn't have also he said Well, I'd say some but really it was just poh It was more than just poh in the mutiny team Yeah one, yeah They clearly have multiple people there. Well, I'd say it's not really specified how many It's like five or even That was enough. Yeah, it was just poh the hero would have told everyone the plan and risked it getting back to the first order What? Being a hero is defined by sharing your plans now Talking about No, just getting back to the first order who again was tracking them This is all predicated Look out a window and see a planet.  I we did notice we did notice that Also, we're not shooting the shuttles as they're Going there It's all so just a it's a mess. It's a mess Cool again was tracking them in a way. They couldn't explain Fortunately post set up fin to let this stuttering opportunist tell the first order the plan We ran a decloking scan and sure enough They ran a decloking scan It's like maybe you guys should have been doing that this whole time instead of just waiting That's something you should be always doing at intervals all the time literally because that's what batteries is for Okay, AAA batteries. It's like the point of a decloking device Is that you're always using it because you don't know if there's anything cloaked That's why you use the decloking device No, you only use it if you know there's something to decloak.  Hey, this is this is in the future Oh Yeah, they use one more a Oh, what's this one? That looks like Kylo Ren's wearing a mic You could see his chin beneath it.  Who cares who Snoke was? You Basically, that's the short answer to that. That's the short response.  I don't understand why it is that the people that like the last Jedi for some reason don't care about Anything that makes a good story What a coincidence So, uh, the idea of someone being murdered after they're established to be potentially important That's one thing. That's not what happened here Because we know Snoke is important.  Yeah, then what's the point of having the villain? If you're not gonna tell us anything about him I just I don't know why they always open it with it that way as well. Who cared who Snoke was Why do you think no one cared What why why do you think people have a problem with this if nobody cared?   Okay, cool You don't need Uh an extreme backstory for him. You don't need it to understand the ot you do need it to understand Snoke because the the transition from the ot to the sequels it is the concept of a blank slate Yes, and and we got the prequels anyway. We actually got a huge backstory for the emperor and how he rose to power Let's mention he was mentioned in episode four and he played a small role in episode five. So he was always there Yeah, and I don't understand what he's even advocating for here like, uh, we're talking about explaining what are potential contradictions Understanding how snow grows with all the information we have from the ot. That's what we we don't understand We don't have any information about how the emperor could have risen because we only have episode four at the time of Episode four being released and five and six. So it could be any reason. It doesn't matter This does matter because we know all these characters. It's it's not the same thing the the way they equate like Everything they're like you like this film. So it's fine now Another it's not even an argument. But hey, yeah, people cared just clarifying Powerful sith and Snoke's still half a powerful supreme leader All right Also Yup To that shot.    Oh, no, that's not gonna happen again. That was just one time thing What have you been happening for 20,000 years? What do you think they were planning on doing once they killed ray and kylo like after that?   Yeah, I think Jim would be a pretty good supreme leader All right, everyone in favor of Jim raise your hand supreme leader Jim All right. All right, it's seven to two. So Jim you're a supreme leader Oh wait solid solid sorrow said er doesn't want to hurt your reputation by coming on e-fap. Did he say that? because Trust me more controversial things have been said On e-fap than the probably in er's videos Possibly I'd have to go through all of our history But um, yeah, if he's if he said that feels bad man, but he can still come on because You know, yeah, what was obviously not a nazi propagandist that's someone said what reputation that's true What reputation do we even have?  I've gotten a bit of a spam of kylo memes recently. I may have missed it.  He said he's busy at the moment Uh, then someone said go on e-fap instead and then he said he doesn't want to get moeller in trouble Oh, yeah, I feel no, you're fine. I'm pretty sure if someone made an article saying that moeller wolf and rags were I don't know Nazis We will cover it on e-fap and laugh our asses off Um, but yeah, it's if we haven't been called that already Yeah, I'll I'll keep that I don't know. I'll I'll send I'll send him a p.m. At some point Saying that the knights of jim. He's fine to come on Uh, anyway, instead.  That's not true at all And they CGI out weapons in order to make the good guys win And they have kind of forget the use of the force It looks cool superficially until you slow it down and actually look at what's happening, which Genuinely, I'd have to really watch it in slow motion But I'm pretty sure the Darth Maul fight doesn't suffer from that the choreography in that is pretty It's just good for me.  Wouldn't that be more? Like like the the double lightsaber is the most useless thing all it does is limit your um Your maneuverability and makes it really really easy to chop yourself in half Well, yeah, it'd be like wouldn't make more sense to have two single lightsabers instead of one double Exactly, you would essentially use a Shad of versatility did a good video on this But you'd essentially you would fence with lightsabers You wouldn't swing them around and do so like you would essentially use them as like like rapiers Right fencing. Yeah Because you would try to poke people with it. I would love to see them do that in the star wars movie Like proper fencing with lightsabers that would be incredible like like that. Do you know the movie?    I mean again He's selectively doing counter-arguments and only talking about the good things So I was gonna criticize him for not bringing up the bad elements to this fight, but then I don't know if He's like selectively doing that. So I don't know Framed, you know the thing is if you just watch the fight like if you're just sitting there in the theater and you Just watch it. It's fun. Yeah, I thought it was you can look at my original video I said the fight was awesome.  So if the hero is gonna get Oh, you know, I I can I can entirely uh understand why someone would be into the fight So I think that's not too big of a big of a uh criticism I just I would say to be fair and balanced considering it's been This video came out recently. So it's been like 11 months Maybe maybe acknowledge the flaws that everybody's pointed out several times Apparently one of the top comments for the video is talking about how bad this fight is so Oh god that part with the three of them attack her in the exact same spot for no reason She gets to block all of it. I don't know why you would fight back to back And she kicks one and all three of them back away. It's like It's so satisfying to see them fight together. Wouldn't it be funny if Kylo accidentally swung too far back and cut off the top of her head?  I could totally picture him being like Well Wow, that was a lot of wins How is that ingenuity? Apparently it is rags.  What is ingenuity? It's doing something clever with the resources you have I guess I guess No, they wouldn't because there's not a lightsaber blade. There's not a lightsaber blade in the cross guard. Yeah There's also they're not cross cards. They're vending ports, but that's what I always thought that doesn't make sense because The point the the t joint the cross joint itself is metal. Yeah, so what he just said doesn't apply Yeah, you know, I would have loved if like one of them preferably kylo Did like a force repulse during this fight just for The novelty of that happening.  It doesn't matter. He's saying like she did that move in training and now she's doing it here There's like, oh, she know what she did was she just turned her hand around And she started swinging their sword around and now she's like, oh so in a fight I know how to use this as an effective technique Also, I'm pretty sure she didn't need to do it as in she could have dropped it and grabbed it either way She decided to grab it with the backhand instead Let me have a look at that again because when you swing with it backhand you put a Hey, finally those Limit on your reach cross guards coming in massive So she dropped it like that she could have grabbed it with the left But why but he would just kill her If she let go then hit the force of his Oh god, you're right. She just lets go and he just doesn't push. Let's go. He doesn't make any sense He's pushing into her if she lets go We found a new issue Christ, but instead he's just like, oh, I guess he just he just stops attacking We literally find a new problem with this movie every single time we talk about it There's nothing right about the last jedi. Oh no, she's stopped pushing against me I will I will stop pushing too. Like what also it's been a while since I've watched the movie But I don't remember why exactly the room caught on fire She threw the was like she tangled that weapon up and threw it away as she moved the sword and it hit the wall And it set everything on fire So someone saying the metal part cross guard is just to protect kylo's hands There's lightsaber under it because it's a vent if a lightsaber hit the top of the metal It would go through the metal and blade Well, then what's keeping the vents venting it in that direction? I'm afraid they don't keep that in continuity because his lightsaber is still fully formed. It's not like a shed of metal The reason that it is a vent the the vent is to direct the blade in this in that direction So if they hit the vent Then the lightsaber the energy would just go wherever it would go and it would essentially fail as a weapon I Get what you're saying, but I don't think it quite holds up I just can't believe we found someone else It was so significant, but yeah, no, it's Moving on A little reverse grip form that she had trained for earlier Train this is not training she swung her sword in front of a rock for and I get what you mean now Like her doing that.  Where were we?  It makes no sense why she would do that instead of Normal grip form is what you're saying, right? Exactly. It makes absolutely zero There's actually a video that um I forget who did it. I don't know if it was lindy beige or it might have been Scalagrim or metatron, but someone did like a video on like the reverse grip and they would be like I think essentially it was like maybe on knives It sort of makes sense for stabbing because you'd have to be close up anyway But even then it's like it's a huge disadvantage to use a reverse grip in practically every scenario Especially with a lightsaber that will go through armor And you don't have to like swing it hard like it. That's why it would be used as offensive It doesn't make any sense. It's one of those Cool Wow, right.   Another thing that I noticed is when kylo blocks that attack from above Why does the second guy come in to swing his weapon at kylo's weapon instead of swinging it at kylo's Body to I thought their point was to like Oh, you're well, I mean, yeah, I guess he's going for where his weapon isn't to kill him and kylo blocks by pushing down My question would be why did the I guess the purdorian guard isn't very strong See allowed kylo to push the weapon down to defend himself instead of keeping it up. This one's apparently not strong either. That's true I just love the fact that he just gives up right there.  Yeah, I go you mean she should have just had it normally not backward. It makes no say just looks cool And that's it Yes, the very thing that probably should have happened to the original ben when he handed luke anakin's lightsaber Yeah, what? The very thing where kylo forgets he has the force And you're like dinging it the very thing Sorry, the very thing the very thing this okay the english there this very i'm assuming he's saying this is the very thing that probably should have happened to the original ben When he handed luke anakin's lightsaber, so he's saying When hits him in the face. Yeah Why is it easy saying that would have been funny? I mean the thing is that if you're Turning the lightsaber off and on Depending on how fast you could do it could be used in combat But again, if we're going to get into the nitty gritty of the techniques Then they wouldn't be fighting like this. Anyway, they would be using like they would be fencing essentially Where keeping the lightsaber You know off and on would offer you no advantages whatsoever. You'd want to keep it on all the time clearly And yeah, you the only time we're turning the blade off and having it back on would be like Advantage is if somebody was great like if you fainted a an attack from above And the enemy used their lightsaber to attempt to block it perpendicular And as you brought your lightsaber down you turned it off And then when it had passed the lightsaber you turned it back on which would be cool To see that done. It should be cool. But someone highlighted by the way count dooku is kind of like fencing if you remember Because he's got the curved saber as well That's that's directed at you and logic because you both highlighted. Hello I forget the actual choreography of dooku's fight No problem. Um, and yeah, obviously just the just the comment on top of this scene is that kylo Could have used the force to save himself at any moment and he just doesn't Yeah, that's that's weird.  That would be dangerous. Then they might beat me Yeah, I don't want to fucking get hit Bring a new order to the galaxy I love her response is if he's reading words written in textbooks Which since it's been said so many times by so many baddies it should be I'm pretty sure she just doesn't want him to Not be a good guy because she thought he was a good guy For some reason But it's also the first time I genuinely thought our protagonist might actually join why Why yeah, why would they why would rejoin him? What reason does she have to join the dark side? What reason does she have to join the light side is another good question to be honest to me. She has friends Like why is she in these movies? Point our antagonists because they have a real actual relationship. They've been building three times They had those very short conversations. You just said they have a real actual relationship I mean redundancy aside.  It's oh no He used two of the the two buzzwords we highlighted in the last e-fat. We said real actual and genuine Oh, yeah, real actual. Yeah, you said a real actual genuine relationship. That's all they needed to make the trifecta Oh, so close. Yeah But no, they don't have a relationship beyond some confusing middling Lines between each other. I'm afraid Also the first time I genuinely thought our protagonist might actually join our antagonists because they have a real actual relation Biblical literal actual hell Ship they've been building through this movie built on trusts and common histories even though he's from all the bloodlines She's from none trust and common histories What? Even though he's from all the bloodlines and she's from none I'm shocked at what he's pulling from this like he actually thinks this movie isn't shit like he's been fooled Oh, yeah, like the movie has somehow tricked him into thinking that it makes any semblance of sense Movie built built on trust What what do you mean? What are you referring to? Oh And someone said genuine pops up earlier in the sentence I'm just gonna rewind a bit because did he actually pull off the trifecta But it's also the first.  I genuinely thought real acts. He did it Can you really relax in the right on top of each other? Yeah, they're a little triangle. That's beautiful That's amazing. Well done. That's fantastic Someone said three conversations equals relationship. I have autism and I know true How many people are we dating if it takes three conversations to have a relationship?   And so he says he actually cares for her and that's apparent It's like saying Ray is a good character and that's true Do you know what I mean? It's like that's not an argument.   You have no place in this story.  I'm glad Ray's not a Skywalker or a Kenobi or didn't need her to be any of them Just needed to be something that explains something about her Allow her to fit into the actual universe because she just she's an exception And she could be charged at a kid. I would love teaspoon father Eden He uses midi-chlorian sperm to put her into a Do you think that's the reason why she can't close her mouth? Because she's like part gung and The interface just doesn't work quite right You cracked the code the genetics are still being worked out So would said Ray banks And even if JJ does decide to give Ray a proper bloodline It doesn't change the fact that she grew up with no one and nothing and had only herself. That's fine It's not about giving it just Explain Ray. That's what we're after.  No training ever like she's a prodigy.  No, I agree with him. You know what? I'm glad she's not Luke's daughter or Obi-Wan's daughter because that is a little a tad predictable. I just I Don't want nothing. Okay, and again if they had actually made her Luke's daughter I wouldn't have said that's bad writing.  It's the whole point. She's not from a bloodline. That's why it's the opposite We want to know why bloodline and that's why her power matters.  I don't I just I'm stuck at Ray's power matters because it comes from nowhere And that's is he trying to say that supports what the rest of film is saying that the force and potent force power comes from nowhere Really, which is like, yeah, that's part of the problem Because of the effects of you know, what it does. That's why it matters. That's why it warrants an explanation Well, this is the thing She's not from a bloodline. That's why her power matters like he says that like it's a conclusion I don't really understand what he's saying. It just raises more questions Version was nothing doesn't mean it meant nothing. It's the whole point. She's not from a bloodline. That's why her powers matter Why? Yeah, I need to develop that Definitely not a complete thought It's empty they're just trying to pull out attention away for the record I think that's the main reason she was able to do it They get a blunder out of the sky if they didn't think she was just fleeing Why would they have if she was fleeing they will you still blow her out of the sky and they try and it doesn't work in time Yeah, like what would have changed? I think he says like They've been shooting at this whole time and inexplicably. They can't destroy it But they have been shooting at this whole time. What would have changed? I mean, is that a small argument in favor of how hyperspace kamikaze totally makes sense Is that him trying to set this up? I feel like he's going there.    That's true They have a black stripe for design to signify their executioners, which means this is something they commonly do they bring an executioner stole troopers For the record, I think that's the main reason she was able to do it They get a blunder out of the sky if they didn't think she was just fleeing The executioners have a black stripe kind of like a black hood. They burnt her hair Okay, that's a wind apparently wait, why does he hate roses here? I Don't know. I wish they burned more of her quite frankly. That is amazing. The silence of visual destruction the self-sacrifice I agree with the second and third point.  Oh my god.  He swung over a Wookiee. He's not a sentient soccer ball It would be funny if BB. I just slipped off cuz we don't even know if BB-8 sentient Well, maybe his is what is it an inhibitor chip or whatever it was came off so he's Human now or something look at all those stormtroopers. What are you looking at? I guess you're are they looking at BB-8? Oh wait somebody Somebody said the picture I asked for but the tweets been deleted now But I still got the picture so now I don't even know if I should share the picture because he's deleted the tweet Send it again. I would just share it. Just share it. It's really good. So I'm celebrating this picture All right in mem in memoriam Yeah, it doesn't show up. Oh Doesn't it can't be found? No. All right. Well, I can Fine hang on Really, okay, but I can pull up the thing myself Just cut you got to copy the image directly and then paste it into discord Snipping tool time. Well, what if I do this? Oh, that doesn't work Snipping tools I'm snipping away We one sec guys this is important, okay, okay, I guess it's important Oh It works surprisingly well, I'm sure I've believed other things on flimsy your evidence Geez Jared Cena Michael Genesis Anyway, let's let's push on blaster beam just ricochets. Even if you oh, sorry, did he not Hang on. Let's go back a bit Blaster beam just ricochets even if is that funny?  Let's pretend that it makes complete sense I'm like a five-year-old in the sense that anything that he perceives is being even remotely cool on any level. He's like Let's pretend for a second that the the arm of being consistently bulletproof makes total sense even though TFA exists Let's just pretend it totally makes sense a Bullet being deflected off. I don't yeah, I don't know. Do you want to be saying it's good CGI? Like, yeah Yes, I mean, okay. I don't know like it was cool. I think that's what his point is So if you think plasma again goes out like a sucker, you have to admit this showdown. It's pretty fun No, even if you think plasma goes out like a sucker, she ain't dead friend What? Oh my god, if she's not dead Pretty sure she's unless she's gonna have a surprise cameo because Gwendolyn Christie is not on Will not in the cast for and I'm pretty, you know Don't like to get any kind of political But if Gwendolyn Christie was going to be in the new Star Wars, they would be playing it up because she'd be all over Talking about how amazing it is. They have a female villain again Do you think they're gonna do with phasma the same thing they did with Arnie and terminate herself Asian She just where she just appears for no apparent reason Check her IMDB she's got no Nothing to do with Well, whatever episode 9 is gonna be like episode 9's got an actual Cast already There's a lot of people in it too, but I don't I think she is dead, but Apparently she's not dead and and you said you have to admit the showdowns pretty fun. I do agree. I think it's stylish I think it's neat. It's just got no character in it whatsoever. It's kind of I Was like, yeah, we knew we knew who is gonna Yeah, it's just meh and and you know, this is the criticism people levy against the Darth Maul fight, but I still argue that the Qui-Gon and Ewan McGregor have more A Development from that film and they're fighting just The the the bad guy, you know, like fat phasmas played up as being Like the Dothmaul has more screen time in his fight than I think phasma does in her entire run in the films But that would have to be tested I suppose I can't say for a guarantee, but yeah What I'm saying is that people recognize it as a problem in the prequels, but don't in the sequels Okay, that seems fair Darth Maul had almost as much screen time at the end of solo was Badass bad guy is that badass? He's getting he's he's like a simpering little I think he's referring to Kylo.  So who knows what he's saying a flush toilet That that seems like it would be very comfortable, but extremely impractical You know, I can imagine I'm flushing a toilet and I'm going yeah, all right Well, that's one of the pretty shots in Star Wars Also, obviously the crystal critters are a wife when a wife Wife what? Oh, it's me my wife. Hmm.  So it's probably hurt. I think yeah Badass bad guy. Well, that's one of the prettiest shots in star. Again. Yeah, nice shot. I agree Also, obviously the crystal critters are a wife when don't know. Oh, is he saying his wife likes them?  They're actually shooting at the stolen shuttle That's why only Rose and Finn no way really. Yeah, I figured it's not like that wasn't just the most obvious thing ever My issue is that the good guys think this is bad guys right now And they took this long to close the fucking door for no reason other than to allow Rose and Finn to get in here You know, I mean like from a script perspective That's why it was open still but for these guys they just left it open for no reason That's a mention they start shooting at it the instant it comes through so they don't know that it's wasn't Finn that are in there He well, he's not making that point. I am I'm saying that it's stupid They left the door open because they wouldn't But they do order for Rose and Finn to be able to get in here.  The Thai fighters were just trying to destroy them Right What why is that something to even point out? It's like really obvious shuttle. That's why only Rose and Finn Sorry, what was he pointing out was their goal the Thai fighters were just trying to destroy them Edgar oh there. Okay. Sorry. I think he's pointing to the floors like what? But yeah, that is Edgar right, but there's a lot more cameos than that in this film and in TFA, but right who cares No, I yeah Are really friendly people and Gareth Edwards. Oh, there you go. Now this is Nah, we've seen these high contrast images since the first trailer, but that doesn't take away from how beautiful it actually is Yes, it's it's a pretty image. Sure. It's pretty image. Just feel like we're alive about the pretty Claff of Beth of pretty colors. Yes. Congratulations.  I mean come on. I learned that in like the third grade This is the kind of person who goes outside and starts picking up shiny things off the sidewalk with Someone said I saw Edgar right and I clapped That I clapped Do you think do you think he's like buddy the elf where he like picks gum off the side of the sidewalk and he's like It tastes really good American beauty. He's just he looks at the the trash bag in the wind. He's like, do you know what this means? Do you know what this represents? Like is it just trash of the word? No It's me. This is the meaning of life Static of the red underneath the white is wholly unique and stunning. No, it's not red. No cake Holy unique and stunning whatever I mean come on. Okay. I'm going to destroy this and I really I really don't want to use this example because it crushes my soul to use this example But twilight did that like years before this and red on white Yes, there's no way something hasn't done red on white Yeah, obviously, but look at how far they had to go. Why didn't they draw? I know look how far that's that's tracks right there Man And how slow are we? Look at those poor stormtroopers on the ground.  They have no there's no reason they can't be dropped closer. There's no cannons like they are an empire There's no anything There's a why drop them so far away The first order learned from the empire's mistakes on hoth and beefed up the legs of their gorilla walkers So they can't be harpoon trip by what but they still have 80 80s here. Let's let's cycle back Yeah, it just showed the like little or 80 80s next to him the aesthetic White is wholly unique stunning. Hello right there 80 80 amber there 80 80 Yeah, I don't think that those things would prevent the harnesses from toppling them still Yeah, I mean that just looks like they'd be more laser resistant if I thought the point of them was that they can climb up walls now Because they've got like a claw hand sort of things I don't know if you saw that and I was just like I don't know that will come in handy at some point To me it just looks like more armor on the front legs, which makes sense But yeah, because that's the facing, you know the enemy side, but They also made them like twice the size Yeah The idea that the first order learned from the empire's mistakes on hoth and beefed up the legs of their gorilla walkers So they can't be harpoon tripped Yeah, see how it like is that the reason why see how they get hooks around Like I thought the purpose of this was that they can actually climb over obstacles But I don't know that makes sense. I don't know Triple kill julian ray to the rescue and the falcon. He just says triple kill Kill ding can announce just by a familiar sound in shadow Yeah, fine. It was cool as a silhouette of the falcon and the sound of the falcon instead of the falcon At this point fin and poe's arcs cross where poe originally was the hero looking to the deed no matter the cost and fin still didn't care about That shouldn't be in quotes. He was the hero Len was the actual hero Just let him ignore all of the contradictory information and cherry pick a neat little line of of consistency out of it There are so many ways to pick apart how wrong this is going to be uh fin and poe The characters are just fucked in this film in terms of like thematic inconsistency The narrative fights the theme which is the last thing you want to do when you write a story But the resistance just ray now poe is starting to become a leader and fin is willing to lay down his life for the resistance Or so leader So I guess this film thinks that leaders are the ones who always make the worst decisions at all times Apparently You know what I just realized How did how did fin get his old outfit back? Oh, maybe he was underneath this one Yeah, it's a lot of padding. Yeah, it looks pretty padded there because he had um, he had uh poe's jacket on I would I mean if it was me I wouldn't have That's like your opinion though Yeah, I guess maybe it was to keep the salt out Somebody drew this What we've been requesting they actually drew it they didn't even oh god really Okay, okay, that's pretty good while there are better photoshop. So this guy this guy wins just for the effort It's insane That is amazing. I can't believe someone actually drew that It's awesome. I love it We need to have like it We need to have like a Like a collage of like all the fan art in photoshop's and this needs to be in the middle Well, no of everything because people have done it with Jared too True. We did post all the jiradi, mundi ones, but I don't know where they are now I don't know other than going through all my twitter Which I could but I mean Anyway god that that's amazing.  So first I'm taking a win away because that's what he was trying to do Oh, thank god. Yeah, okay. Okay. Wow cool High five cinema wins high five.  Well, okay.  You put a um Even a cheerio inside the barrel of a gun Uh, that that bullet's probably not gonna shoot straight I mean could happen anything could happen I'm trying to say like a pebble some sand Yeah, I was going with the cheerio to say like even the even if a The limit the most limited of things goes in that barrel. Shit's gonna change Absolutely.  So Someone said this makes anti-sense bilbo baggins Think bird in an aircraft engine Yeah, yeah that that's brought down planes before There we go things Poe knew it rose the girl who inspected the skim speeders knew it The only one that didn't get it. Well, why the hell did they bother in the first place? How where's her little thingy that touches the ground if she knew it wouldn't work then why the hell did they try? What was the point they just wanted to kill themselves? Okay Was Finn so she ended up saving him from wasting his life for nothing. No one's ever really gone I'm really glad these two got a chance to be together. Yeah, I'm glad they got to spend five seconds with each other As opposed to two movies aren't you guys glad about that? Oh, yeah I'm glad that they were five seconds away from it being literally non-existent. But okay. Yeah, I'm glad that Luke and Han never Yeah, that makes me really happy.  What a good he just says I'm really glad these two got a chance to be together on screen as if they couldn't As if we were always in the position that they couldn't really be together. And so we were lucky to have this Yeah, that's ridiculous. That's something that they wrote that that was a completely arbitrary decision that they made when they created the films And you really can't create moments like this. You literally can create moments like this. It's in the script I was gonna say this is them creating a moment like this. I don't know what he means by that Yeah, you just write it into the movie this character character meat. They say these words the same as this Few moments few pieces of music give me the rough.  Won't you? I'm glad it did that for you cinema wins. I'm glad you got a good experience The same melody is just repeated in the film Tensity everyone stares at Luke is if they're seeing a ghost that just reminded me of when Jared was like Fucking r2d2 and Chewbacca Do you remember well rags remember major lee? He's like people say the knowledge goes on in tfa Well, they don't forget is kylo's in it huxes in it phasmas in it. He just names characters Yes, yes, they are in it.  This is The the fact that he's a legend doesn't make any sense It does not make any sense that he isn't a a universally known figure That everybody recognize and understand Yeah, he's not even dead for starters And everyone's alive like he's he's alive people are alive who know him and have seen him and fought with him like he's not a legend Well, he certainly shouldn't be considering the last 10 years. He ran away to go die. That's not exactly legendary Like everyone would be like where'd he go? He just disappeared. That's weird When the music finally crescendos we get a badass good guy Okay I mean, it's fun to believe he you like that laughing that he does It's like the cinema sense does the same thing. That's what I find interesting about it, but come on It doesn't feel real. It's not a real laugh. Unfortunately. No I mean, it's fun to believe you could force block thousand ways to become a force knowledge isn't invincibility. What's more? Well, how do you explain ray?   Why would hux want to prevent kylo from potentially killing himself? Yeah, hux should be like that's a great idea lord I support you all the way.  That's why you didn't like it Yeah Yeah, how are you gonna feel guys? You guys you know if episode nine undoes the last Jedi you guys are looking forward to making that argument If anybody who loved the last Jedi doesn't like episode nine, we can just say it's subverted your expectations That are disproven by the directors themselves and they still make arguments defending it right away, son Loyalty loyalty They didn't do it out of loyalty.  Maybe that's the joke. I don't know but it's just space out the laughing That lightsaber He's doing this for a reason. I clapped for blue so we can escape Did this would realize that's what luke is doing Leia has an urgent message for him about his mother. Yeah, no, sorry. Well, I hate to have to I feel like we've said this before But I would majorly but here we go again, uh so The idea is opposed like luke is delaying everything so that we can escape It's like luke didn't tell anyone that on his way out. It would have been extremely helpful to do that Be like yeah, what if they were like Like start looking for an exit. I'm gonna delay them.  It's like oh Weird that you said there was none And then the second that they luke implies they might find wood You say there is getting senile It's just it's just how you change your stakes on the fly because you just want to generate different payoffs I was wrong. They're like, oh, that's good. I wonder how long it's going to take them to kill C3PO and r2d2 They horrifically murder C3PO.  Or will they just be like the only two star characters that last throughout everything I Think they're lost. I think that's it's almost like it might be a rule. You're not allowed to kill either those characters Like whatever directors and writers take over Yeah, they might just forget them at some point. Oh, that's an idea C3PO is the mole and he has been since the beginning He's just been waiting for time to strike He might hold us about to do the hyperspace thing and he's behind dirty slits it throat goes quiet now Quiet You can even play the terminator two theme at the when he does it like Slowly waddling forward Darth 3pio that'd be amazing your time has come I'm actually scared by this And then r2d2 makes that low Sound when you seize it On freight, why didn't they just barricade themselves inside the cave let the first order blow the door and trap the invading troopers in a bottleneck Well, that would imply that they would have to think yeah, stop pretending like they make plans. That's not a thing they do God i'm offended. No. No, we are the spark that'll light the fire that'll burn the first Um, I remember that line from the trailer making me really into the potential for this film Yeah, there's like you have if there's like what 20 guys left Yeah, so it really is weird at this point. You're like Poe fulfills his leadership arc. Yes, the arc that is completely contradictory, but it's an arc. I'll give you that Fulfills his leadership arc and leia even acknowledges it follow him. Yep The film definitely shoves it right in there in the dialogue, but it didn't manage to maintain it consistent He won't kill you like I will Luke's foot doesn't actually interact with the salt when kylo's does Accept his clothes and hair affected by the wind Oops Yeah, I think I have to I can't remember if he was er or some of the content creator Highlighted that but uh, it's not something I picked up on my face time through But maybe he just made his vision version of himself have Hair, but he can't actually affect the real world which involves Moving the salt on top. Why did the vision version of himself have short hair? And why didn't he have his green light saver? Why does it flow with the wind? Because he made it flow with the wind. Why does the sunlight affect him in the way that it does? Yeah, you cast a shadow logic. How'd you explain that? Oh, does he cast a shadow? He definitely does visualize the shadow. Why is he able?    He's dead.  I I block out seven and eight like I don't even think they exist I I forget they exist I just block out everything that came after six to be honest. I love how he's describing reya's gray by the way when she's Ultimately altruistic. She never makes a negative decision Yeah, I even block out half of six like that you walk part There's a lot with six is confusing gets pretty much thrown out and uh, it's pretty much two and a half movies Are what star wars is. Yeah, when did when is ray made a morally ambiguous choice in her life saving kylo? That's totally morally ambiguous because yeah, let's put let's put her up to light yagami and say, oh, yeah gray Version of being a jedi may actually have merit and even if it's right before he goes luke's back No, he isn't hugging. No, he's not. He's literally not there Knee down in anger and I'll always be with you. Oh threat that cuts right to your soul But it didn't because he went and attacked It's a yeah, it's a twist on what he said what kenobi said to vader Actually, it's an emotional promise to kylo. That's a twist on ben kenobi. He's he's saying you kill me. It's okay I'm gonna be with you in your heart and that's nice, but it's kind of weird after all those Sort of jabs he gave kylo. He's like lol everything he just said was wrong But I love you Okay, he's threat to vader Yeah Deliberate skit of his feet as if drawing the blood he thinks he created with that stroke Um, maybe Again like fine That visually it's good. I mean Is anyone arguing that this movie is visually bad? I don't I mean wolf was 50 50 on that. I believe were you? I well when I first came back from the movie I was that that movie looked incredible and then when I watched it again I was like, oh There's a lot more issues with this and I thought Yeah, can you name a couple? I'm just curious.  Yeah, okay. Yeah That's true. It looks like a prequel movie. Yeah, it looks like episode one to you Lightsabers cauterize wounds. There would be no blood spray. That's true.  Christ. How does Every I hate to sound like we're on record, but it's like everything that Zinnimuson says is wrong.  Oh my god, you're reaching so hot Wow, I just picture him like That makes this good just reach a little bit Whereas previous star wars films may have struggled with pain to yells. Let's say rey and kylo do not Sorry, what was this point? So she's a reying they yeah, and I should care why yeah people sucked at yelling in the other movies And then this one's good at yelling in this one. Okay fine One last moment of staring out at a double sun horizon is a very aproposendo But don't worry. This isn't the last one really more probably obvious But no one who vanishes into the force has ever gone forever I mean, I I liked it. It's just it needs to be in a better film.  Oh that's what that's what he meant I want the edit. We're in a fantastic final shot for the entire like nine films. Yeah That's where I was the last thing before the final credits I think so. Yeah, it's great. But yeah, it's a great scene for a great movie that it's not in a great movie though Right. I know and it's in the eighth movie.    It's ruined by some guy going. What about this? God, we had a guy. We literally just had a guy in the span of an hour draw Kyle sarah So I imagine that before the end of the night. We're going to have Exactly that video sent to us Kyle I like this little hint that it was more than just snokes bridge more importantly Ray shuts the door on her past when kylo so clearly could not what do you mean? She shuts the door on him not a past She's looking at him She's done which is part of like snokes dad. So how is the bridge still going? What do you mean? She shuts the door in her past.   Be pure tizam at this point Well now in finna name being better sister in the next movie at least we have love interest for everyone. Whoa Brother and sister love interests I'm still waiting for pox finn I see the resemblance but Brother and sister love interests Am I not the only one that's picking this up? That's a bit of a strange thing to say The lannisters send their approval Why would he how would he miss that unless it's part that is it a joke? I don't even know at this point whenever I don't understand a part of a video I need a note on my pc that says ask if it's a joke because that might be it Luke is gone, but it wasn't sadness or pain. It was Peace and purpose. Yes. Tell us because you couldn't show it.  Why I hate the last Jedi as well every theme every Everything about the subtext is plowed into the dialogue I sure wish they rescued us from slavery instead of those animal things.  Like I said in my video I just love the idea that the stormtroopers spread it because they're like, yeah, we saw this guy Like he just anyone may be a Jedi. I don't mean anyone What's this about the Jedi? I thought you said earlier the force don't belong in the jet But he was wrong about No matter it's what he says what he said Apparently the young Turks have supported the er is a anti-semitic Of course, of course, of course Someone said a group called the young Turks accusing anyone of Oh, yeah, I feel really sad about that man because like he always was so happy that he got the shout out And now this is what's happening. I feel sad about it. I've loved his video. Nothing good can ever just happen On youtube anymore.  They want to try to ruin your life.  It was just them losing their shit again They don't seem to have a good reputation from what I know but maybe that's because I don't know The young Turks don't have a good reputation among people who aren't like rabid sjw's We need a meme folder.  I can't even tell you how many words. I've written about this movie Just kidding. There's a little over 14,000 to speak. It's not a lot of that was because something I had and I just had it I found out that a lot of the same ideas come to me. Yeah, I've lost any ability to even control How many words I've written about this Is my stream still going that's a concern Yeah, it still shows it going on my end. All right, that's something. Oh god. I gotta cycle past all the michael siras To get to to get to the link Um, oh, yeah, let me put the C3 Oh, is the second one. Yeah, give me one second. I am Sorting out getting watched together back apparently just died on me uh-oh How long have we been going for? a while Needy five hours What am I hearing? Oh, oh the the the things started playing videos not working for me like even a little bit All right, it should be at 22 23 Um, I might have to make a new room at this point because it's Yeah, it's the universe telling us the e-fap has come to a net Kill it if you have to it will never be worse than this All right, I'm gonna try and make a new room if that doesn't work Watch together might be dead for me. And if that's the case, we might have to stop which Might be a shame because I think he's about to get to a substantive argument Discord has discord has screen share Oh, yeah, but I'm not set up for it. Like I don't know how much what kind of like I could maybe do it for the next one, but yeah, uh Watch together just not working. Like I am trying to boop new rooms and the video is just dead I'm both by no realms Why you do this? Well, do it. I'm gonna use the loop All right I mean, we could do a part two to tackle the other half of this video Maybe that makes sense considering this a pretty solid halfway point and we're at four hours 44 What do you reckon wouldn't be the first time we've done it? Yeah, we we've decided then that we will split into two mainly because of the fact that I can't get watched together to work right now I got tired like two and a half hours ago to be honest Um, it's it's but you know, he made he made lots of good arguments. You agree with that, right? No, what? Racist I don't like people who like films. Um, someone said that we efab too hard Oh, my chat all just loaded all chafed in red now. It's horrible. Yeah. Oh, no Yeah, my chat just reloaded. Maybe watch together works Oh I think I think it is Dude logic say anything for this stream, uh for the first half I've read okay, so it's working again now.  So I will have my energy back for some more fapping if you continue Uh, if not then then I will wait food downstairs, too Okay, I'm trying to think of all the best way to do I'll I'll read the super chats till I get to the end of them And there's a lot so that'll probably Square out for an ending we could take a break into a pot, too. Would you guys be okay with that or? Yeah, I could do yeah rags if he's not here is he okay I'll have more energy after food. I will present that argument for rags as well once he's back I'll just read super chats for now. So, um, we'll join rags. We'll do what you tell him to do He's a good boy Maybe you know he got off from treats. Um I rags go home rag. You're drunk. I rags rags. Do the gay Balsaw Galactica did being chased by a superior force also Why not use the b-wings bombers or the y-wings because they weren't thematically accurate you need them to be This new thing that ryan johnson's invented. I leave for two hours and you're only four minutes in that's that's true My watch together is working again now, but I was gonna say What was your thoughts on taking a break and then possibly doing a part two for the second half of this video rags Um, I would need to like Eating stuff. Uh, well logic and we'll both want to have food. So Yeah, I yeah, so we could do like a half an hour even an hour break if you really wanted If that hello Yeah, yeah works for me. All right. Well in that case, um I'll read the rest of these and then we'll close out and uh, we might come back. It's not a guarantee. That's all. That's how I'll put it Pleasant Thanos might stab his fingers in the time that we're gone. Yes Uh, pleasantly surprised to see this. Love your work. Thank you. Howdy. Howdy came in late I just want to say again. I love you guys and cute with the excellent work. Thank you Wolf, please make a video on force unleash two.  Actually, no, I hated the second mission in general Oh man, I played the force unleash two shortly after I came out with my first force unleashed video because I was like, oh, maybe I like it better No, no, no, it was so much worse than I remembered it being I might make a video on it someday, but Yeah, I don't have any plans for that right now. Can I point something out here? Yeah, hold on. I have a phone call It's a nice ring. So do you got like Uh, you just don't understand the deep your mama theme of star wars, of course the light side of the force has green Yeah, yeah, I have a generic ringtone. It's fantastic. Well, that was quick I'll be right back Um And the dark side has cookies which one would you join based on that so cookies or milk guys Well milk can have soy in it. So I'm gonna say cookies cookies could be made with soy stuff. Maybe less Uh less I don't know it might not happen Oh, this is uh, so this is from fury gods. Hey wolf if you want things to help in the video You're planning on making for razor fist.   So I'm probably not going to address that. I don't think it's really pertinent Uh, avengers for the quest for peace Watch anti trekker. He does Give an interesting reason why lair did slash could survive in space and he hated the last Jedi Fair enough Merry Christmas. You spanky little boys. Beautiful. I'm new. So I've been binge watching the lore I just finished the gerona genisa podcast. He starred new stream. Also, where is wolf coming back? I'm assuming that's related to the videos as opposed to efab because obviously he's right here Yeah, uh, I don't know Not sure he's not sure. Uh, if er dies we riot. That's true Reparta, why do you think critics love tlj so much are critics legit anymore? Our disney and other corporation stuff studios getting corrupt like studio system of 1930s. I love you. Uh, Possibly, you know, I just think this bad writing. I'm pretty sure disney want to make money well simultaneously Hoping to make good stuff. I imagine I imagine they want to do that All you do is nitpick bilbo swaggins. Beautiful. Don't have twitter sent you kylo michael at discord p.m. Oh I can't look at pms until I've finished streams. So um I guess we'll try and collect them or something and showcase them at some point Maybe I'll do that for the next episode actually. I'll collect them up and then we'll show them Uh, oh, more are you pure innocent soul? I know shammy's been brought before but he recently made a really well made overwatch versus paladin's video You guys should check out Oh, yeah, I saw it. I don't play overwatch. So I wouldn't be able to I don't know if it well It was a pretty good video either way I wish he made more than like one bit. He uploads less than er Uh, uh, upon seeing eric taxon's twitter not the dragon. I was expecting dildo baggins. I mean I think I'm referring to No, no, I just noticed the re in the title isn't mocking the autistic screeching from cinemas fans or something like that It's reply. Yeah, it's supposed to be reply.    Well, if you'd probably like that, right?  There's women in the film. Just look at the women Well, the women aren't very attractive. So That's true I thought luke's face in the helmet was the dark side showing luke that he had an evil in him luke Being an optimist instead saw the good invader. That's I think that's a fair interpretation as well Like I said, I just thought of it as you kill vader. You could easily become vader Uh ties in more to this does the next episode if you will his kylo call is dick the dividing driver Don't um possibly Very well, my any thoughts on jarrod not being in youtube rewind That would have been amazing. It's just one of many reasons why youtube rewind is immensely disappointing You guys should do an efab on in defense of the last jedi with movies with mikey It's a doozy kind of similar to just rice videos. We did cover his infinity war one. Um You know, maybe one day we'll get around to the last jedi one since that seems to be what's going to be consistent about efab as we cover um Last jedi videos every once in a while We're gonna cover the last jedi until episode 12 comes out. Why would we stop then?  That's why I'm excited to see died.    No one answered their beacon Also, where is ghost anakin to set his grandson right? If you just ignore the other films this what was it quinton said this is only a sequel if you interpret it that way I don't know if logic. Yeah, something something something to that effect Such a good line. Uh gas the jar was just She does push his bicep with a forearm to block Pushes bicep with a forearm with the way we had it paused. He's clearly free to push forward though And you just yeah, yeah, I saw that super chat before Um, and we've replayed the clip. It doesn't look like that besides she was struggling to Even keep him back at all and she just totally let go.  Are you not are you not cultured? No old shoe markers masterpiece The greatest batman. No, okay. I'm good the argument that always drives me crazy is rey shows that anyone can be powerful These people are falling over for the same trick as the lottery it Star Wars The idea that everybody is super force powerful. How much would that just ruin star wars? I feel like everyone's running around with super force powers Nor is supposed to be about supposed to be about training and earning those powers But whatever. I think the hair joke was a reference to space balls. You know that they shot my hairline Hmm, uh, which one was that in his video? I mean I think he was talking about uh burning Roses hair during the execution scene Yeah, one person out of billions was randomly selected to be space jesus. That's not relatable. It's impossible It's totally relatable happy boxing day not quite boxing day, but Thanks on crate. Why didn't they just barricade? Oh, yeah, we did respond to that one Uh horror movie spin-off idea ben solos weird uncle peed peed on him in his sleep. Oh peeped on him. Sorry Relentlessly Jedi Academy continues to peep on him in death Episode nine's gonna have it. I'm gonna peed on him relentlessly.  Yeah I'll give you two dollars to come back. Oh, wait. Mola. Did you know you mumble when you sleep? Oh It's creepy very creepy who cares who Darth Vader was just some tall guy in a robosuit Exactly might might want to lock yourself in a different room tonight. Mola and I did it. That's all a super chat Successful, so we're gonna close out on halfway through this video or at least Yeah, that's nearly halfway Um someone said every frame paused relentlessly I mean that would describe this one 22 minutes in five hours. That's that's our worst. That's our worst probable rate ever, but uh This this was exhausting Come back for part two.  Yeah, I haven't I haven't eaten really. I had some chips. We all we all need energies. Yeah Yeah, I've had some problems concentrating because I've been like hungry I've had a sandwich today and that's about it. Yeah Yes, thank you all folks and we shall see you next time Mm-hmm. Good day. Goodbye


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