And we're alive, sort of, we're mostly ready to go. We're doing our best. Some minor technical difficulties as you can currently see. Yes. We'll get there. We'll get there. In the meantime, we can get started talking about guns of the dawn by Adrian Tchaikovsky. Oh, yeah. Yes. I got it. This is my second time reading it, so like, you know, I'm exposing a vulnerable side here saying not just picking a book for book club, but being like, I like this book, and I think you will like it too, which is a little bit more pressure than I'm usually under. Yeah. So tell me how much you hated it. Just give it to me quick. I gave it five stars. Oh, sounds great. I like it. I agree. We agree. But I already know Bethany did not. So this pleases me great. But let's say I probably have the same criticisms that Bethany and Mora will have. I just didn't care because I liked it so much. But I do see the criticisms. Criticisms what criticisms? there's so there's some pacing issues here, but I just like the characters and I like the story and it's like, you know, it's Pride and Prejudice meets Napoleonic Wars meets Wizards and look, all of that together just is like a recipe I like. So well, that's what I was like when I was shilling for this book is that like it does kind of all of the things so that like I feel like there's a good chance that anyone picking it up would be in at least in some part satisfied because it you might feel dissatisfied because you want an entire book to be one of those things, but it does all of the things so there'll be something in there that you like. Yeah. Well, I don't think anyone gave it below three stars so I'm counting success. Yeah, I think pretty good. Yeah, I this is like a three three and a half for me. I I like the project of this book like I like what it's doing conceptually like being sort of what if a woman was drafted into war with like some magic on the side.  You know what, you can be friends with all kinds of people. It's okay. We agree about the important things. Exactly. Yeah, you can like different books. Yeah, no, but I I'm not a huge military fantasy person. And so I think for me like the whole kind of middle part of the book, I liked it a lot when it was focused on her friendships with other people and on the politics and when we got peaks into what was happening in the wider world. But I was kind of bored by some of the more like fighting scenes just because I usually am. And I also wasn't fond of the romance. Honestly, I could have done without it. So that's pretty good to be Lizzie Darcy vibes. And I just read Pride and Prejudice for the first time last year and I'm still obsessed with it. So for me, it was like feeding is like, you know, scratching the itch. Actually, I told Alan this when he like made me read it the first time. And then I was telling Bethany this as well that like Darcy a bit but more reminds me of Mr. Thornton from North and South and like their relationship. Yeah. So I just literally pictured Richard Armitage as Mr. Thornton as that character, which helps a lot, I think. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be mad about that. Also sorry for the camera issues guys. I have no idea what's going on. But it's working. So we'll just roll it. Yeah, I gave it a three and a half. I was between a three and a half and a four. I think for the exact reasons Amanda said, I just felt like the middle was way too long for pacing. But it read really quickly, even though it was too long.  Well, I started the night before and then like polish it off the next day. But I have a three day, three day read for me. Yeah, but I just I was into it. I really I actually really liked that it was more sort of in the field and less political intrigue because I was expecting more political intrigue. But there wasn't as much of that. And I actually kind of liked it. I felt like it was a it was examining what the actual experience of war is like and not the behind the scenes politician of it. And I just think I don't know that I've read a lot of fantasies that take that approach when it's a military fantasy. Yeah, the heroes by so ever Cromby does that. There you go. I don't think that he's gonna like it after this review of this book, though. I got five minutes into this live before bringing take a shot wherever whoever's got their their gen out. So I kind of liked that approach. It was just it was different. I don't know that the romance was wholly convincing, but I'm just trapped. Like, I just like a romance as long as it's not bad. I'm I'm doubt I always am for a romance. So I was like, Yeah, like, I'm into this. He's, you know, kind of a Mr. Armadage or sorry, Mr. Thornton Richard Armadage. Yeah, like I was giving that I like the ending and I like the way I well, I mean, sorry, I'm just monologuing now. But one thing I did like was the the fact that she's the one at war. And she's the one who has like, she's writing home somebody while she's at war versus and he's the one at home like pining for her. Like, I just feel like that's not a dynamic I've ever seen before. So I was like, I read that like I also like it didn't feel it also even though it was like flipping that dynamic, it didn't feel like the girl version of Ghostbusters like it didn't feel like, do you see what I did here? I switched them and like it didn't feel aggressively like, you know, I mean, no, yeah, there was times where it did a little bit, but that element I didn't feel that way about. So anyway, overall, I feel like I'm be it's verging on a four, but I just can't get over the fact that it's like, too long of my opinion. My friend who was reading it, while she was reading it, she was updating because like, she knew I'd read it before. And she was like, I hope that she doesn't end up with this with the Mr. Thornton guy. She was like, I really like the other guy. And I was like, okay, that was how I felt like I didn't, I mean, I didn't know that I needed them to be together either long term, but I didn't like Thornton. I didn't like, I didn't like the romance. Okay. Also his name is Thornton in this book. If like anyone is confused, we're all just calling him Thornton. I don't remember what his actual name is. I will say, I wonder a little bit if his writing in particular just doesn't work great for me because I tried one of his sci-fi books that people love and I DNFed it because I just like couldn't, I just, I don't know. So I think this is the one of these things where I'm like, I like what you're doing here, but like, I don't love his writing to be honest. Like it just, it doesn't, I don't, it doesn't, someone else said it feels emotionless. That's how I feel about it. Also, I'm like, I like this project, but like I need more feeling. I don't know. Yeah, I could see that. I guess that didn't bother me. That didn't bother me, but I can see that as a valid criticism. I mean, a lot of people love his stuff. So I like it's, I think it's just, for whatever reason, I don't know that I get on great with him. I agree with Dary. I would have, I wish that we had taken like a chunk out of the middle and had a more like aftermath, extended time. It was very, the middle is so long and then the short end at the end, it's just like ever done. And it's been a couple of weeks since I've read it and I can't really remember what happens in that middle chunk hardly at all. Cause I just mean, it's a lot of, a lot of fighting in the swamp. The swamp, even though this is more seeming like revolutionary war era, Napoleonic war era, like in vibes, the swamp fighting was very reminiscent to me of like trench warfare in World War one, where like, what grounds are you gaining and why are you trying to gain it? So I liked that. Yeah. I like the themes of like the meaninglessness of war and you know, people think they're fighting for one thing, but is it really, I mean, yeah, like on paper, I like a lot of the things this was doing. And even the parts of it, like that are dealing with sexism, I think we're again, they weren't like that.  And they're like, how dare you? I meant, you know, just like sexism is much more hidden and insidious and subtle.   And the way I handled it, like it was really good. Like violent patriarchy isn't necessarily like a random guy attacking you in the street.  I'm going to put a baby in you, whether you like it or not.  And the fact that he was shocked by the fact that she would not was not it. And he was like, what, who would do that? Like, dude. Yeah. Yeah. Although I did like when all the women first showed up at the front and like, one of the commanders is like, all right, these are soldiers.  So I did kind of like that because they were just like, Oh, wow, so it's actually dealing with sexual assault in the military and in a way that's definitive. Great. Well, I like that it's coming from altruism. It's coming from pragmatism of like, guys, we need soldiers. So like, I need you to, I know you want to do this, but like, you just can't for pragmatic reasons.  And I was like, hey. It also handled the classism in the fact that rich families were mostly sending their servants. And that like, she was one of the few that went, but then the lower classes still took their anger out on her.  So you're here. That's what works for us. I think all of what this is making me realize is like, I think I really like his ideas and I just don't like it. Like I don't enjoy his writing. Like I love all of what you're saying and I love those ideas objectively, but like I just don't have fun reading his writing. That's exactly how you fail. You know, it's so interesting because usually you and I are opposite on that. Yeah. Like usually I can't overlook the writing because of just for the ideas. It doesn't happen that often, but like every once in a while, there's somebody that I, for whatever reason, it just, yeah. Yeah. I did, I did actually tab something. I never tab and I made it tab. Read it out. Look at me guys. It's just, I feel like it like summed up a lot of the stuff and it was when she was talking to that doctor, Dr. Lam. Oh yeah. And he says, the march of progress, Lieutenant Marshwick, he said, I'm a man of progress, a scientist and an engineer. And yet I look upon this and ask, what has this word made of us all? Like country will never be the place it was and no more will yours. Who's the winner then? Like who's winning this? We both just destroyed each other. So I feel like that's like one of the main themes of the book and it was like summed up nicely.  I think that also does tie into like the propaganda. Yes. That was also handled well where like, and I mean, there is that in war where you're like many times in history, people have not been permitted to write home and say what's really going on for this exact reason. And then also the fact that like when she's finally confronted with the enemy, it's not just propaganda about that we're winning the war, but we need to draft literally everybody. And you're like, how can we be winning? And how can that also be true? Yeah. There's also the lies about the enemy, which are also like the way you get people like it's practical to make them angry at who they're fighting. Like you want to go into battle, angry, wanting to kill them, thinking they're monsters.  You just keep sending more people. Even your women are fighting. And she's like, are we the baddies? Am I the bad guy? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I, I liked that. I liked the way that that ended up. Like I liked the way that the war ended. I thought that that made sense and supported the themes. But just again, I'm, I guess, opposite of Liana. I don't want people to suffer. So I was really relieved that her brother in law lived. I was really worried the whole time that he was going to make it. Which I also thought it sounded like I was rooting for him to die. Paintings differing. So I just assumed, but I didn't think it was realistic. It was very like World War One where it's like, well, all the people in that rank have died. So I guess now you're this rank. Like congratulations on your new promotion. Like it just kept happening. And I was like, Oh no, brother in law. Like, come on. I need you to make it through. I mean, like her brother already died. So I feel like it would have been, I mean, okay, it's not that he could, they could have had the brother in law die as well. But like, I just felt like she'd had her death. So everyone else, because they killed her best friend, like in the first fight in the first chapter of the book. So you're like, Oh, I might have this character. I didn't have that much time to, I think that her dying was sort of like an initial like, this is real. People will like, don't expect this war to have plot armor.  She just died. But also I feel like I was, because we had more time with her. What's his name? Who was like into that actress. And then yeah, they had their new tenant. Oh, yeah. That was really sad. That was really sad. Yeah. She keeps getting promoted. I do think it's an interesting choice to have your main character be on the losing side of a war. Yeah. Also, because I don't think we get that very often either. I just think he made a lot of interesting choices. And I feel like probably intentionally trying to flip what you would typically see in this type of book. Yeah. Also, you're apparently wrong about the pros, Bethany. Sorry. People like different things. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm sad that I didn't like this more, because I was expecting this could be a four and a half or a five for me. But I do think it's a really good place for people who are intimidated by epic fantasy to try. Or military fantasy. Or military fantasy, because it's very readable. Like even if you don't love the pros, it does, I think read pretty quickly. There's not a ton of like made up names you got to keep track of. Like the world building is pretty directly inspired by Napoleonic Europe. So I feel like this would be a recommendation I'd add to my list of like, if you want to start with fantasy, this might be a good one. It's also a standalone. So you're not like 14 books. Oh, no. Right. I wouldn't mind another book though. Like the ending is pretty like, hey, that's a big ending moment. Like what happens now? Like, you know, maybe we can see her and what's his face as kids like in the next round of war, it could be like the World War Two version. Yeah. There's like barely magic too. So it's like kind of fantasy. I was actually going to ask now, like we've kind of talked about war, but like, what did we think of the magical aspects of this book? I would have liked more. Yeah, I would have too. I don't really understand how it worked. Like the king had magic and then he gives it to wizards and then they feel like it's like deputizing them. It feels like he's deputizing like writing them maybe. It doesn't make fire magic. But it also doesn't make a ton of that. Like it's a little unclear. Like is it because doesn't it go away when he dies?  Well, that's why I was saying it's like deputizing them. He has like instead of authority, he has magic and he's like, here you can use my magic on my behalf. Which is an interesting choice though, because then it seems like why does only he have magic, right? That's exactly like the question. But it seems like then it would like serve because if he had something you're born with, right, it would like serve this idea of sort of like divine right. Maybe he's born with it. Maybe he's just a magical king. They did mention like something about like bloodlines being important because not everyone can like survive it where he's just like most of the time it needs to be noble families. They're all kind of related to the monarchy in some way. So it's just like the blood in them takes the magic better than like commoners.  I'm giving everybody magic at the end of the book. Yeah. This is more how I liked that. It was like kind of there, but like it wasn't really, there wasn't a lot of big magic. See, I feel like if I don't see it, like if I feel like if I'm going to do that, then I'm just going to read like historical fiction or like magical realism, historical fiction. Like I'm not going to pick up a fantasy. Like if I'm picking up fantasy, I want more magic usually. Yeah. Now that you're saying that, Bethany, it does, it almost is like magical realism more than fantasy, which isn't a bad thing. It's just yeah. I didn't think about that. To write a story that takes place in a world that is not our own, does that necessitate magic? Like if you wanted to tell a story about different countries, a different conflict in a different war, like if you're saying you have to write about our world or you have to have magic, like I don't like that that would be a requirement. No, because like alternate history is a thing or like speculation. Yeah. I mean, you don't have, I'm just saying like personal preference. Like if I'm picking up a fantasy story, like I prefer to have more magic. Like if I'm looking for something that feels like historical fiction without magic, I would just probably read a historical fiction or a classic. I don't know. I would, I just like fire magic. So like I would have just like, I just would have liked more of it in this particular case. Agreed. But Agreed. Simple pleasures in life. Yeah. I mean, I'm a sucker for like dragons and fire and all that kind of stuff. Yeah. All of this was very vague. Like it was not, it's nothing. Also, I think part of it, right, is because it's all from her perspective. So it's very narrow in what you know. Like you don't see much outside what she's going through. You don't know things that she wouldn't be thinking about, which like, you know, from like a writing, it's an interesting choice. It's just, it leaves a lot uncertain. Yeah. But like, you know, that King also was quite the ladies man.  Oh, for sure. 100%. And I'm like, do you just get because you related that guy or does the king have to like give you the, I don't, we don't know. We're never going to know.  So who knows?   So where is there like a vampiric ceremony they're supposed to undergo at death? I mean, we don't really know. So I don't know how much like Flintlock anyone has read, but like, as far as I can tell, and I'm my limited experience of Flintlock, which occurs, it seems to be confirming that Flintlock fantasy just doesn't have that much magic. So Bethany, this is your sign. Don't read Flintlock fantasy. I mean, what is what is Flintlock fantasy? I don't really know. Well, this is Flintlock fantasy. It means basically that like your fantasy world is like, instead of like swords and sorcery, it has guns. Like Oh, it's like early technology. Okay, basically, it's the fact that like your world has progressed to the point where you have like cannons and guns and firepower like you have. And I don't know. So like steampunk. Yes, like magic, like magic steampunk. I wouldn't say steampunk is usually its own genre.  But like Flintlock fantasy is like, oh, this is like historical like Napoleonic war era. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think of like, if I've read something that's Flintlock fantasy that I like loved, I don't know that I have. Well, I think the second era of Mistborn would be considered Flintlock fantasy. Yeah. I'd rather say that. Okay, but that feels more like a Western. It's like a like a buddy Western, which feels different to me. It's a fantasy world with guns, which is basically what Flintlock wants. Okay. But it's like a more American version of that era. Yeah. So like I enjoy, I think that's probably it. Like I enjoy it as an more American Western version.  Yeah. Wait, is Red Country by Abercrombie a Flintlock then? Because don't they have guns in that? I don't think they have guns in it. It just feels like it's a Western, but like they had a gun in it. Like we're getting into spoiler territory because there is kind of the advent of possibly like gunpowder. Oh, yeah. Well, yeah, they're at the brink of like an industrial revolution. Never mind. I just felt like it had guns. But are you actually they don't I don't think they have in the age of madness. I think they like they have like cannons, but I don't think they have like revolvers yet. Yeah. Well, y'all get there. I think you and Bethany are having a read-a-thon, right? We are. You'll get there, Bethany. I am always having an Abercrombie. I don't know. If you guys are doing live shows, I would want to go on for Red Country because it's actually my favorite Abercrombie. I don't think it's anyone else's favorite Abercrombie. Some people say it's their favorite, but I feel like it tends to be people who really like Westerns. And I'm like, I just don't like I like this better than Westerns. I like Westerns. I've discovered like straight up Westerns. Very rarely something I'm into, but like Magicky Western. Magicky Westerns? Very much. I'm into it. Same. I'm into that too. So I love Red Country. But yeah, let me know. I would love to talk about it. Yeah. No, we're doing it for the podcast. So when we get there, when are we reading Red Country? Like a while from now probably. May, June, something like that. I don't know. I don't know. We're barely going to be at best served cold in May. That's after best served cold. No, it's after the heroes. Oh gosh. It's after the heroes too. Wait, so I don't know. I don't remember the order. Well, we were doing the trilogy, not to like derail this conversation, but we're doing the trilogy and then skip a month and then the stand-alones and then skip a month. And I don't know what order the stand-alones go in. Red Country is the last one. Yeah. Okay. So we're not doing it till like July. Yeah. A while. A while. It'll be a while. We got there. Back to Guns of the Dawn. Nope. She's on Abercrombie chat. Sorry, Mark. Sorry. Question. I know, Bethany, I saw you put something about this in your review, so I didn't know if you wanted to touch on this. Yeah. Me and Leanna off like kind of had a chat about this, which was help. Maybe I should go and update my review after our chat. So like when I read this, yeah. So it's a little still unclear to me like how to interpret it. So when I read this, the way I read it was like, okay, the indigenous people like, because they're talked about is if they're not like really human. And so I'm like, are they intended to be another species or something? Because that's not really explained. But then I thought that the dude, like what I understood, which Leanna says is not accurate, which she might, may totally be right about this. But like, but like when I was reading it, what I thought it was saying was that the dude who was like the anthropologist had fallen in love with one of their women. And so I was like, well, if that's true. But Leanna says it was someone from the other side of the war. Yeah, it was the other side of the war. I don't, yeah. You know who else says that was what happened, Adrienne Tchaikovsky. I feel like it's weird. They're obviously different species. Well, so that's what was confusing to me is I was like, because I interpreted it as like he had fallen in love with one of them. And I was like, this is an interesting take to make them not. So I feel better knowing that that's not what was happening. But I do still have some questions about like the choice to make the indigenous people not human. Like I, I feel like he didn't adequately, and he's British. So I feel like they also have a different relationship with indigeneity than Americans do. So part of it is that, but like, yes, it is. When we talked about it, like I was saying how it was just very since this whole thing has that like that like British like empire era of vibes that like it also felt like British early anthropologist vibes where like it was this in keeping with like that's what they went out and did. And they had these people that were like interested in the natives and then wet native. And like it was very like, yeah, that's the vibe. And you're not, I mean, I don't think anything in the book is written in a way where you're supposed to condone everything that's going on.  Does that make because it's not really spelled out. I could see that. I mean, and I don't know that he was, I don't think he was intending that because I agree with you, Liana, but like there's it like they're they're called not human. And then that's not really explained. And we never get, I don't know, I didn't love it. So I don't know that his intention was bad. Yeah, I assume because magic, you know, that's they're just like their own race of people. Because they also have magical creatures. I don't know. I didn't really think about it. But I do. Yeah. Now that now that you're talking about it, I'm like, yeah, that is kind of weird. I just went like, okay, magic stuff. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about it.  It fell into the mystical mysterious others, which is a stereotype. I was like, yeah, I mean, that yeah, I mean, that sounds like a fair thing. Yeah. So I don't know. Like I think I do feel like if he had done more work to unpack like what they are, if they are a different species, like maybe it could have been done better. I don't know. I just I didn't love that execution, even though I don't think the intention was bad, but I just Yeah, I took it more like they were having like interactions, like if an alien came, and then we spoke different languages, that's why I got the vibe of obviously, we're the aliens, that's their home. But like, that's kind of what I felt the vibe was with them. Well, probably, and that's what I think his intention probably was because he does write that stuff. Like he writes sci-fi where there are other species of aliens there. And so like, I think that's what he was trying to do. It's just that I don't know. But like, I feel like if you go into this, like, I don't know that everyone would read it that way. So, yeah, no, there is a conversation to be had about it. It just it felt very kind of like a sci-fi, the two different alien races talking to each other, you know, like in like Star Wars, when they're in the canteen, and they're obviously speaking different languages, so they both understand each other. Yeah, I always like that. I got the vibe of it is their home. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Maybe like kind of like Faye. Yeah, that's an interesting context, because I just think you read it read things so differently, depending on your cultural background. So, yeah. Yeah. So I think like to sum up, like, was it like perfect in its depiction of this? No, but was it like egregious? Also, no. It was like, it was like, that could have been better. That's kind of, that's kind of. It was also it very much felt like sort of it was right up there with the magic in terms of this is not really what he's focused on. Like it's in there and it's like a feature of what's going on, but it's not the thing we're doing here. No. Yeah, it's definitely more focused on the war and on Emily's personal, like interpersonal, such political relationships. And also like passionate letters from Mr. Thornton. Those are some of my favorite moments. I liked his letter writing. So, so we should we circle back to the romance now that we're done talking about? You see if I can find one of those letters, because that was, that was well, I would be most unhappy if you died. So don't do that. I do think that I am like much more like I'm Mara. I sometimes feel like I'm much more critical. Like I love romance and I read a lot of, but I also think I'm more critical of it sometimes than you are. Yeah, I think that's true. The reason like I think I have a level of like doing with itness about romance that I don't know that you have, which is fine. It's just different. But like this one works for me because I feel like the ending isn't like a romantic. We're off to get engaged and live happily ever after type ending. Like in the end, she like kind of chooses his side, but in not in a way that's like, oh, all of his like, you know, everything he's done has been explained away. And he's actually been perfect all along. And now there's true love. The ending was very like, I'm gonna, I, I can't deny that I have an attraction to you. And I don't condone everything you've done. You've never lied to me. And right now I'm choosing you right now. So it didn't feel like a forever love. Yeah.    You're in a war and like in a certain well, like people have just been there. Nobody is coming to this. They also like to confront that like they've hated him because of what happened with their father and the way that she confronts the fact that, but my father also betrayed us in his own way. And that like, I have been satisfied to like, just it's much simpler for me emotionally to just my, my father is the victim and you are the villain. But to confront the fact that like, it does, is it the other way around is like actually like he the hero. No, he did bad things, but like it was not that cut and dry. And yeah, no, I didn't do it. He didn't make the dad do what he did, you know, I think this is a romance that I could get behind if there was a good film adaptation of it with actors who put more emotion into it. Yeah, I could, yeah, because like, I think that was part of it for me as I read it and I was like, I just don't feel it. Like at all. Okay. I feel like, like I feel it from him, but I don't feel it from her, you know, well, that's great. Like in the beginning in the book, no, like, I don't think they ever would have got together. It would have been a mess. But like when she comes back from war, she's a different person. Yeah, yeah. She's like, listen, I have murdered like a lot of people at this point, like, and you're just kind of like sneaky, like, you know, like, we're kind of a pair at this point. So I think it's more of less of she's changed enough that she kind of has a different moral compass to match his moral compass. It does seem begrudging on her part. That is exactly it. Where I was like, just stay single. Like, why? That was, that was it. Because I got his do anything to find her, which I'm a sucker for. Okay, yeah, this is when it sold me. I agree. He has major Garcy vibes. I like yeah. Okay, so he's like, you must come back to me. Remember that make a note that you must not that like that. That I was like, okay, I'm into that.  He's like, I promise you, if you are able to locate the news of Sergeant Marshwick, then neither you nor the man who finds that news will be the poor for it. If I were a hero, I would set off myself. If I were a soldier, I would take up a musket. If I were a wizard, I would spark fires enough to burn the forest to the ground until I found her. I am not. I am a man of finances. I use the tools at my disposal, find her find my gratitude in large dress. And maybe it's because I have an accounting degree and I relate to like, okay, I'm not a fighter, but like, I can do your test. I'll give you some money. And so like, I love that letter. I feel like the part and it's pretty early on the part where like I was like, this is Mr. Thornton was like when she's first leaving for war and he is like horrified and she's describing how horrified he looks like he's the one that's going to war even though she's going and he's watching her leave. And it was just like that scene from north and south when Margaret's leaving and he's like, look back at me. Look back at me. I was just like, that's him right now that is totally his vibe. You know what? Although they worked in the hand scene when she touched his hand when she was leaving and I bet he's going like the Darcy like hand flex from 2005. I'm like, he's doing it. He's doing it. I think the thing is like, I just never really like, I never really liked him. I like, I felt like he was kind of like a manipulative and like he was the only person she could talk to openly because of the way they were censoring her letters. And so of course there was like going to be some kind of an emotional, I don't know. I just, I like, I just didn't know. People come together in times of war, Bethany. You know, I wanted her, I look, I just, I was like, I wanted her to just like be single at the end. At the end, I don't want to be single when you can be with your romantic parents because I don't believe that she actually was that into him. Like it felt begrudging to me on her part and I was like, if you're not into it, like they're not like engaged or married at the end. She's just like, I'm choosing right now to save your life and I hear you and fight and like, I am low key into you cannot deny. But that's it. Like one thing is like, and we will now be wed and be like, she might not even marry her for me.  I feel like, you know, committing regicide is a pretty much like, hey, like let's go date kind of situation.  It's like, no, I'm like, kill the guy. So I feel like that's a bit of a good bit. Yeah, I like that. Because that that was more, yeah, that was kind of more how I interpreted it, interpreted it, which was, okay, magic guy, like, yeah, we, we will go to Pound Town. Like, we're in Thornton. They don't actually have names in this book, but I don't remember them. But we're two ships in the night.  Like, we'll do that.   You know what I mean? Like that, that was kind of how I took it. But again, I'm just a romantic at heart. So like, I just want people to be together. Like, I'm, I've got my two Barbie dolls and I'm like, pressing their mouths together. Well, I was also telling Bethany that like, one of the things that like, which is why I almost, even though I guess this would be enemies to lovers, but like, it's a different kind of enemies to lovers, like to me and enemies to lovers where there's like a great deal of like, distrust and animosity. And like, they're truly like, I don't know. But like here, the fact that their relationship is entirely founded on honesty, that he's like, I have never lied to you. I will never lie to you.  Like, because at the very least, like you have this core of like, I, I don't know if I approve of what you do, but I can trust you, like that whatever you tell me is the truth that you want. Because like, if, if I'm in her little sister, whatever her name is, the one that's kind of like Kitty and or not Kitty, what's her face? Lydia, Lydia. I wouldn't have bought them together. Do you know what I mean? The same way that I wouldn't buy Lydia and Darcy together. They have two different journeys and personalities. Her personality to me was like, she of her sisters is the one who is the closest to being a like kind of cynical realist. And so it makes more sense to me that she could go on a journey that would make her end up with Thornton. Yeah. I see it like, again, I think a good adaptation of this with actors, where I bought their chemistry, I could get behind it. I just like that. Yeah. Also Kaz is licking her butt, taking a bath. Mine is also doing that, but it's, I'm sorry, I was just, I couldn't, I was trying my best not to laugh really loud. I mean, this is kind of also funny, like if they didn't describe Northway always as pale and awkward and undertaker clothing, it would be more, I mean, you know, not wrong. It's like, or like, hey, Professor Snape. That's a romantic lead. Yeah. I'm just like, I was picturing like an emo scene kid as, but like older. Chubby McGuire when he went through his Black Spider Man. Exactly. That face. I wish Allison died. It's way harsh, Ty. It's like, it's like a Timothy Chalamet, but goth. You know, after, after I went hard after Timothy Chalamet a few months ago, some people sent me some like pictures of him in more alluring photography or lighting or whatever. And I was like, okay, like, I can kind of, I can get this. Not for me, but I feel very, I feel very motherly towards Timothy Chalamet. Like, can I just give him a plate of food? Like, I just want to feed him.  Well, there's like these videos, you know, where he's like doing, he's saying something clever or showing off his French. And, and there's like the comments are like, swoon.  Like, you're so clever. Top of your class.  Good job. Well, we're all grown up adults too. Yeah, that's the difference. He's a grown up adult too. He just looks like a baby. He's like 27, I think. I was gonna say, isn't he in like his late twenties now? He's in his late twenties. He is. He just looks like a baby. Oh, okay. Well, still. I think he's like 20, like he's one of those rare actors. Like when you put, you know, or late twenties, early 30 year olds in teenager roles and everyone's like, Oh, it's unbelievable, except, except for him. Except for him. And we're like, I buy it. Yeah. No, like dating's in diet. I just learned this. You just learned this. Yes. Tiktok just told me this the other day. I'm not. It's fairly like doesn't keep you up to date as much as you think it does. You know what, I probably, I probably have known because I follow a lot of the Marvel creators on Tiktok. So yeah, I don't follow any of that stuff. So I don't, I'm not a Marvel watcher. So I'm not a Marvel watcher, but Instagram informed me of all of the times they have been spotted together and how cute that is. Hey, look, I do know Pete Davidson is having a moment. I'm not totally out of touch. I'm just saying, I don't keep up with a lot of sad things. That I also don't understand.  Exactly what I think every time I see a headline, Amanda, is I'm like, how big, how good is it? It must be big and he must know how to use it. Like that is my thought. Pete Davidson like on SNL, like I think he's funny, but mostly he reminds me a lot of my brother and my brother hates Pete Davidson. So I can never tell him. I mean, I have told him and he hates it, but like, I'm always like, whenever I see him, I just like, I'm pleased because he reminds me of my brother, which is like, if like people are talking about his, his big dick and like all of these like ladies he's with, I'm just like, I don't know anything about your brother's situation. I just know that Pete Davidson must be speaking of like pale, consumptive looking people. Pete Davidson. Yeah, it's like what deal with the devil did he make?  I mean, yeah, I've had crushes on emo scene boys. So like I can kind of, I get it. Okay. You know, when I was also an emo scene girl, but like, I don't have them now. Yeah. This is like, I for like this, it hasn't been the case for a while, but like, I feel like in the yield or the, the, what's the progenitor of the genre of being into like pale, consumptive boys was Ben Wishaw. And I never, I always liked Ben Wishaw as an actor. And then I never understood why like my friends and roommates were just like, oh, he's so hot. And I'm like, he looks like I could snap him on my knee. Like, how is that hot? I don't understand. You know, I think Twilight has to be some people's pale, consumptive. But okay, but Robert Pattinson, I could not snap on my knee. I mean, that was also true. Yeah. I was also never in the Robert Pattinson. I didn't get it. His face is very flat. And it bothers me. Like he's so pale. It looks like he ran into a board. I am very hyped for that. He's also kind of like Russell, what's his name? Russell Crow, who kind of looks like a thumb. I feel like Robert Pattinson is kind of in that same I think the honest trailer refers to Robert Pattinson as shovel face. I am so hyped for him in Batman. Yeah, I think he'll do a great job. I just yeah.  I forget her name, but whoever's playing Catwoman, like she is just low key. Just think she's super hot though. But like also I think she's a good Catwoman. Yeah, like, I would say Zoe Kravitz. Yeah, I'm just like, yeah. It's a little strange. It's a little strange. The moment the moment that I know it and Leanna doesn't like that's a rarity. It's weird because Zoe Kravitz's name is this.  Like I don't I cannot retain her name. Sadly, I just associate her so strongly with that like one of the worst movies I've ever seen aside from J.K.R.'s politics. That second fantastical beast movie is what I associate her with and how agonizingly terrible it was. I never saw it. So I'm out of that one. I feel like I feel like I've seen it because I've watched so many videos slaying it so that like I've seen enough clips of it that I probably have cumulatively seen the entire film. Yeah, having not seen any of the reactions to it and getting to walk into it cold was quite an experience because I just was like, what is going on? What am I watching? I mean, like I felt very mediocre about it. I didn't hate it, but I was like, it was an entire film of backstories for characters we did not care about and I don't know. Anyway, all that to say, Zoe Kravitz is a beautiful woman and sadly, I always associate her with that movie. So I would welcome the chance to associate her with something else. She looks great as Catwoman if you look at the clip. But having seen the like very dark hair... Activate by panic, it's happening. I can't like, I'm like, oh, what? Do it. She looks really good for... The very dark haired, very pale version of Robert Pattinson that is Bruce Wayne. Mr. Northway could look like that. He could play Mr. Northway. Yeah, plus 20 years. Mr. Northway's in his 40s. This would be a good miniseries or... It would actually. I would probably enjoy this as a miniseries. Yeah. Hey, yo. And this one's already done. I think BBC would do it well. I think BBC would make it better. They would. It would be a six episode miniseries. Yeah. This one, this one's already done. You don't have to worry about the source material running out before you, you know, get there. So actually given the age factor, I feel like Killian Murphy and Piggy Blinders has like Mr. Northway vibes where he's already like, I do bad things, but I tell you that I do bad things. And you're like, just like switch out the hat. You know what? Honestly, like, I don't know. I realize I think like villains, I have a villain mind. So when I'm, when I'm reading Mr. Northway's character, I'm like, you could do worse, frankly. Like, he's, is he that bad?   But I feel like... His honesty totally sells me.  But he's always telling her the truth. Exactly. Yeah.  Like that's kind of like, that's my lane. I'm in it. I'm staying in it. And I'm like, you know, he could do worse like Cas Bracker.  I mean, like, true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, Mr. Northway has just grown up Cas Bracker. Yeah, Killian Murphy, I think is the right casting now that you say that. I also, I think, yeah, I think he could say like dirty things to Emily. In this adaptation. And I would, I would buy it. So. But I feel like he also says it with like, the hint of a smirk. Where you're like, okay. Like her secret, her secret fantasy Dom daddy angle. I feel like Killian Murphy can take it. We're writing another book right now, Mark. This is me adapting. That's the casting. That's where I think it could go. I'm just feeling like listening to us talk about this book versus listening to Alan talk about this, your impression of what you'll find in it is so vastly different. That's very true. Alan, weigh in if you've ever watched this. Who's your dream casting for Mr. Northway? But I feel like Matthew Goode would be the wizard. Not Mr. Northway. I picture the magic boy as very like fresh faced, like a Chris Evans type. But I feel like that skinnier like Matthew Goode. You know that guy who was in that war movie from, he was in the one guy from the one war movie. I am about to narrow it. Let me narrow it. Okay. He was in 1918, that movie, and he's like the main character. Oh, I never saw that. Oh, yeah. I don't even give it in something else too. I know what you mean. The main guy from that war movie. He's also in the new movie that's about Ned Kelly. Isn't he? The true history of the Kelly gang. It's like me and Mara don't watch that many things. Wait, did that already come out? The true history of the Kelly gang? Yeah, that came out. Yeah, I did post on it a while ago. I'm looking it up right now Amanda, so I can weigh in on this. Who is this boy? He looks like a British prep boy who has consumption. No, he would be the wizard. I picture him as the wizard guy. Giles. I could see it. I could see it. He's Giles to me. Oh, maybe. I don't know. There's a very unflattering picture of Benedict Cumberbatch that just came up. Someone in the common city, they reminded, Benedict Cumberbatch reminded them of Sid the Sloth from Ice Age. I thought in the comments a while ago I heard that take. I kind of know that you say that. I think I can kind of see that. What reason is because Mr. Northway is in fact Mr. Thornton from North and South. He really very much is. Oh, I could see that. Donald Gleason. I could definitely see that. Do we know who that is? No. Do I? Yes. Yes. I do, but Beth May doesn't go for it. He's Hux from Star Wars. I'm looking it up. He's Hux from Star Wars. Yeah, I could see that. I liked someone said James McAvoy. I could see that too. None of us care who plays Emily, apparently. No, she, I mean, yeah, just generic, whoever. British lady. British lady. That's Jay.  Like maybe like, oh god, she plays Hermione in the Harry Potter movies. What's her name? Emma Watson. I could see like Emma Watson doing that. Yeah. Because I could see her in a period drama and then moving into more kickassery. Emily Blunt. I think I get younger Emily Blunt now. Yeah. Younger Emily Blunt maybe. Again. Oh, there's a cat foot. He's been purring and rubbing his head against this table for the last five minutes. So it's a good table. Oh, somebody said maybe. Yeah, that's right. Cast Richard Arbitage and the girl from North and South. There you go. And then you're just bada-bing bada-boom. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, well, okay, you know, what about it would be interesting what if they did cat because somebody said, what if they did the one who plays Eloise? Yeah, I could see that. I could like maybe like a little bit this kind of how I pictured her in my brain, but a little older looking, I think. Well, I think they age her down. Oh, she is older, but yeah, Florence Pugh would be great. Yeah. Yeah. I like that casting Florence Pugh or um, or Demelza from Holder. Oh God, I can never say her name, but the one who played Joe and Little Women, Sorcery Ronan. Sorcery Ronan. Sorcery. Yeah. She has the fireiness. Pretty much. So we've just cast anyone from Little Women can be Emily. Yeah. Watson, Florence Pugh or Sorcery Ronan. That means Timothy Chalamet. Timothy Chalamet plays Laurie in it, so that I guess he has to play Mr. Northway. Yeah. Oh, no, he's too old-faced. He could be the Swap Boy. Who was the Swap Guy? What's his name? Malon. He could be Malon. Oh, he could totally be Malon. Yeah, I could see that. Okay. Let's just write the who or what is he? Or he could be the little brother. Who is the director of that movie? Like, alternatively, like, suggesting Demelza from Poll Dark as Emily. I do think that Aiden Turner would be a pretty good Mr. Northway. Oh, well, Aiden Turner would be a pretty good thing in my life. I feel like he's too sexy for Mr. Northway, though. That's what would make Bethany like it. Bethany would see it be like, well, I'm on board. Now that I see that it's Aiden Turner, sure, of course. My mission in life is to have a new adaptation of Weathering Heights with Aiden Turner as Heathcliff. One, because I think he'd be fantastic, because he's the broodiest broody, like, swarthy looking guy.  Well, what's not to like? I mean, someone agrees with me about Eloise from Bridgerton. Thank you. Like, I pictured her the same coloring as Emily. Like, I pictured her like that, but maybe not the exact same face. But yeah, that's kind of loosely how I pictured her a bit. I just realized that I was pretty much picturing Kira Knightley as Emily and what's his face who plays Darcy in the 2005 Pride and Prejudice as Mr. Northway. So that's probably part of why I like Mr. Northway. It's mad Pride and Prejudice vibes. And I'm still on my Pride and Prejudice kick because I just read it last year. And I'm just like, I'm never not in my Pride and Prejudice kick. It never, it won't, it will be with you always, Amanda, now that you have it. It will, it will. Oh, I read, I, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm just thinking about drug classes because it just came out. But yeah, I just read Agatha Christie that I thought of Mara when I was doing it. I'm so proud. I'm so proud. Well, I would say that this is one that is probably one of the more successful picks. We have another success. Yes. I kept saying I thought this could be.  I mean, like, I didn't love it, but like, I got on board picture, whoever you need to picture, who do you like? That's Mr. Northway. Yes. Look, I would be, I would be behind an adaptation of this because like, it's got the building blocks. It's just his writing of it. I need more feeling. Yeah. Yeah. But somebody was asking if I was, if we were going to unhaul it, I'm not going to unhaul mine. I'll keep mine. So I probably, I probably will. I don't like, I'm pretty picky about what I keep and item like if I, you also live in a tiny New York city. I do. I live in the New York City apartment. So it's like, it's not big. Well, it's big. She's big. She's big. It's like, it is a nice paper copy. It's like, I feel like, because I don't, I don't see myself rereading it because I didn't love it enough for that. And I, I like, I'll pass it along to someone to buy for my indie bookstore at a used price, and they'll really enjoy it. It'll be great. That's true. I'm, I'm very, I am very picky about what I keep. I could see that. He's got the, the kind of squirrely vibes. The thing is, David Tennant, I think he's a fantastic actor, but I have never understood why anyone finds him attractive. So like, I don't need that. Could he do the role? Well, he could, but I would not be into it. Same. Same. Like, I appreciate David Tennant. Like, I don't, you know, it's like a weird, like I, I'm like, you know, when it came down to it, yeah, I'd go for it. But like, I'm not like actively going for it. You know what I mean? Okay. Maybe just me. All adaptations. We're just, we're trying to figure out a way to do it where we'd be into their romance. So I'm trying to pass somebody. I would like Snape. He's like, he's Professor Snape, the way they describe him, but. Well, I think it was lucky for me, I didn't pay too close attention to his actual description and was just picturing Matthew McVaden because that helped. But also he is described basically as Mr. Thornton from North and South. He is. That is how he's described. Yeah, that's, that is very. I low-key wonder if Adrian Tchaikovsky watched North and South and was like, that guy. What I'm describing. I mean, it's entirely possible. Yeah. You see, I had the benefit when I read North and South of picturing Richard Armitage as Mr. Thornton because I knew about the adaptation. So. See, I haven't, North and South is like one of the Elizabeth Gauss school books I haven't read yet and I haven't seen the adaptation yet. So. I think you will like the book. Yeah, I think. I generally like what I've read from her. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For next time, I think we should have also announced that we are moving to quarterly. Right. Yes. I think we, yeah, we had mentioned, but yeah. And what are, have we decided, have you decided to talk about? I did. I went back to my original one because I flip flopping quite a bit. Okay. So I ordered my copy and has not arrived yet. So it's a Ladies Guide to Mischief and Mayhem by Amanda Collins. Yay. Okay. Good. I read something from her in the past and I enjoyed it. So I'm hopeful. Yeah. So the Ladies Guide to Mischief and Mayhem. I feel like I was just included in an audible sale and I didn't get it. I have a copy of it on my, I think I actually got it. I think I got a signed copy of it during the, the romancing the runoff auction. Oh, nice. So I've been meaning to read that one. Yeah. I got the sequel to it on live Friday on sale. So I guess I should read the first one. It's in April, correct? April. So April 30th. It's the last Saturday of the month. So it's basically, you know, all the quarters of the year, the first month of the quarter. So one, four, seven. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And I haven't decided definitively what I'm picking yet. I'm pre-reading a book that I want to make sure Liana will not hate it. I don't know if she'll love it, but I want to make sure it won't just like ruin her life. So the Ladies Guide to Mischief and Mayhem by Amanda Collins. Yeah, that's a little better. There you go. I only have it on my phone right now. I don't have it. My physical copy, they were supposed to, it was supposed to arrive like days ago and it just didn't. So like, I don't know where it is. I'm putting it in the chat. You know, it has like lady detectives and stuff. So it's not like... The title of it reminds me of the Mackenzie Lee books and I like those. Yeah. So it should be, hopefully it'll be fun. Yeah, I think it'll be fun. At least no one will get a range-voter over it. At least it'll look... Isn't one of Mackenzie Lee's books, isn't one of Mackenzie Lee's books, the Ladies Guide to Something, Teddy Codes to Piracy or something? Yeah, and I liked that. We like Ladies Guides in general, just any kind of... They're generally really good. Yeah, fingers crossed we like it. If not, it's short. So at least it won't be a long suffering. It should be fun. And then we'll have Mara and then at some point we'll figure out a horror book we're going to read in October. Yeah, Bethany gets the Halloween... I'm like having the Halloween show. Yeah. We can't plan our costumes until we know what we're reading. Yeah. I have a possible idea. So maybe I can... Quite early in the year. Yeah, it'll be April 30th. Yeah, but I have a book that's like a tentative. Oh, I guess I should see if you guys have read it though. I don't know. This is very early, so I'll let you guys know. But I'm like considering Kill Creek by Scott Thomas. Oh, yeah, you said that last time. I have a copy of it, so I'm for it in that sense. I've heard of it, but I've not read it. It scared me. So I had to put it down because I was... I forget. I think I had just moved into this house. And so like I wasn't used to like all the noises and stuff. I could see that. So it was scaring me. But I think I could get through it now. I think it's about like a group of horror authors who go to a house in the woods and are doing it as a PR stunt where they're on social media or something while they're there. I don't know. It's like a horror version of an isolated thriller, which I'm... Yeah. So like we could... It could be fun. So we'll see. That's my like maybe choice, but I have to think about it. But what would we dress up as? Authors. Writers, I guess. Writers. Yeah. Writers who've been killed by some ghost. Frazzled writers. We could dress up as... We could dress up as William Shakespeare. Yeah. There you go. I mean like there we... I was going to say, modern writers are like, what? You just wear a t-shirt, but like if you dressed up as like Oscar Wilde or as Mary Shelley or as William Shakespeare... That would be fun. Like historical... That could be fun. Or Jane Austen. Yeah. Interesting. We'll see. We'll see. I'll give it some thought. We'll let you guys know. I don't even know what that would be. I was going to say he just dresses like an average Joe. Oh man. Somebody said, what is the name of that horror book? It's called Kill Creek by Scott Thomas. It's an indie title also, but I've heard it's good. I don't know. We'll see. I'll think about it. Part of me wants to pick like an erotic romance because I don't think we've done that yet, but have we not? No. No. Bless your heart. She's questioning every life choice she's made that's led her to this. I was like thinking about what we've read before. Thinking about what we've read before and now you're like telling me there's more? Oh honey. Closest... I'm kind of thinking what would the closest be? Maybe the Mila Vane book might be the closest to Ceylon erotic. But that has a lot of plot compared to... It has a lot of plot. Yeah. Erotic has mainly just the fucking. Just mostly the fucking. It's a lot of it. A little bit of plot. And then plot contrivances to get to the fucking. Yeah. That's like her worst nightmare. Don't do that. Or maybe just one with less fluids. Sometimes to get very fluids. There's a lot of fluids. I was going to say we could also get into like kink stuff. So I mean like we could like a breeding kink. It's like you're painting the walls with it at this point. It's just like too much. It's a lot. It can go there. You know it would be expanding your horizons, Leanna. It's true. I like my horizons where they are. Mara, we could do Morning Glory milking farm. Oh my god. I would love that. I don't even want to know because I'm already scared of the title. Milking is in the title. And you know what kind of milking it is. Well, there's a yeah. But you know, yeah. It's a really interesting book actually. I haven't read it, but I have heard people say they actually... I really liked it. It's like surprisingly wholesome for being based on such a smutty kink. Yeah. It's also monster fucking. So are they milking a monster? Who's going to do her? He's a Minotaur and he has to be he has to be milked. Honestly, you know what? We all have a veto. No one's had to use a veto, but I feel like that veto's going to get pulled for that one. I mean, it would be expanding your... If you want to approach it as like an experiment Leanna, it would be a very interesting conversation. I don't think it's that long either. No, it's like... Well, how long can you write about this not milking? Hey, you know what? Sometimes you fall in love with the person whose job it is, is to milk you for years. And how much is there to say about that? Like it couldn't be a... You know, it's an interesting world. It's actually a pretty interesting world. I think Mara said it's like 150 pages. It's like 150 pages. It's not long. Yeah. I mean, you could do that. I mean, I kind of love this idea, but I'm not going to make Leanna do that if she's vehemently against it. I just... I mean... It would make for an entertaining live show. I will read this. I won't veto it, but you know what you will get from me in the live. Okay. I mean, that might be my tentative pick then, if you're not going to veto it, because I do think it'd be an interesting conversation. It would be interesting. It would be short. I'm also kind of grossed out by a low key. I think the only way I would veto something is if it was this and it was 700 pages. Then be like, I am not an hour of my life. It's like... The thing that I like about it is that it's surprisingly sweet. Like I wouldn't have liked it if it... It wouldn't be remarkable if it was just just porn, but it's like... It's the king, but it's also surprisingly like, oh, like they're kind of adorable together. Like, and he's all nervous. You said it's sweet. And you've also said that it's pretty short. So it's sweetened and condensed milk. It is. I mean, it's pretty short and it's like... It's a journey, man. I mean, I would be up for it. It's not even the craziest thing I've read by a long shot, but it went viral on TikTok. It did, which is where I've heard about it. So I would be up for trying it out. It would make for a very entertaining live show, I feel like. I also love how we're discussing this on Leanna's channel this month. I know, I know. Okay, that might be my tentative pick then, if nobody's going to be doing it, because I do think it would be an interesting conversation. I don't know how much I'll have to say. You can comment on the world building. Yeah. The world building of like the one room in which they bang and milk, like... No, because it's like a whole... It's in a world, man. Like it's a whole thing. There are related books. Yeah, yeah.  So are the other books, do they milk other things, or is it just still? The other books, there's like... So one of them, one of the other books is Girls Weekend, and they go to an orc nudist colony. A nude orc colony? Do you say orc? Orc? Yeah. So they milk some orcs too? No, they don't. That's not milking. That's just... The milking is a very specific need for the Minotars. Okay, yeah. So not everybody's getting milk. It's not just some milking series. No, no.  Yeah, it's a monster series. Yeah. All I want is Brishen and Ildiko being friends and also life companion. Well, see, this is the thing that I'm reading as another possible read is that it's the same trope as Radiance, but in a Scottish wear-bear setting, like a historical Scottish wear-bear setting. So that's what I'm reading because I want to see... That was my thought is like, yeah, I have Rangeman. I read it all. But yeah, I was like, oh, this sounds like Radiance's plot, but just in a more paranormal wacky setting. I don't want to tell you this because I don't want to encourage you, but I love wolves. So... There is also werewolves in this, so... This could ruin wolves for me or this will be great. Oh, if there's like nodding, then I won't subject you to it. Oh, you explain that to me once, but I don't remember, but don't explain it again. Oh, don't explain it again. We're stopping that right now. I like, I find that. It's, I mean, it's... So people just go there, you know? I think I have a lot of problems. I don't like the like, the concentramifications of nodding. Yeah. No, I just don't want to think about it. I just, I'm going to use my veto on just a conversation. Yeah, I don't, I don't want to think about it. I don't want to talk about it. Okay, well, I would also probably, I would also probably like not be into something with nodding. Yeah. Hey, everybody, let's kind of have a monster fucking... I really, really hope Alan watches this.  That was pretty interesting. So wait, why do you think Alan should read this? Why not? Just to expose to him, to the world of things that are out there. It was called vice or it was called feed by a Vita vice. And it was like a gigantic bug. This is a great time to come into the conversation. I love how someone's like, I thought Amanda was more of a, look, we are, I imagine... I read romances. You read a lot of romances. Yeah, it's a whole look at it, google it if you need to.  I wouldn't say it's something that I look for. If it shows up, I'm more like, okay, that's interesting. And I just kind of get through it. It wouldn't put me off a book. It's not something I would seek out. But yeah.  So in the kindle and mated trenches. Yeah, it's like on a list of things also that I'm like, no. I do. That is, that's a fact. I did also come of age reading fanfic. So that probably also gives me like more space for things to get pretty buck wild in books. So just like, yeah, I mean, I feel like I've read that fanfic at some point. I know you never will, Mara, but it is for this reason that I would be so curious what you thought of the sort of truth books. That was when I used my veto. I used my veto when that came up. Because I don't want to read it. It's too long. It's too much. There's there's a lot of sexy times and sort of truth. Very strange, sexy times.  No, no, no, they're just what? Sometimes, sometimes. But what? You say pollen? Like pollen? She said Temple of the Winds. It's like further into the series. That one in particular is a bit, it's a ride. They have a whole pollen thing in in in kink. But oh yeah, that's a fanfic. As somebody who was like, very, very like uncomfortable with steamy things just a few years ago, like the fact that I'm down for a long way. You've come a very long way. I will give you that. Morning, Glory. I'm looking for might take you to places that you didn't know existed and we'll find out. I would like that. I feel like it's enough. Like I could do that, but like there's still things that I'm like, no. And that's fine. Consent is a big deal. You don't have to like to read it. You don't have to. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.  This is why the only person who does darker stuff that like I think I can read kind of is Katie Roberts because she prioritizes consent so heavily. Yeah, I don't like Katie Roberts that much. I keep trying and I keep having it. Shauna also, I understand that that doesn't make a lot of sense, but it does in my world. So Right. That's that's my line. I like how it has to do with how long things are. Like I just don't want to if I if it's buck wild, I'll read 100 or 200 pages of that, but I'm not going to read 500 pages of it. Anyway, I don't know how we got all the way here. I don't know. We all know this was I'd say it's like maybe. Yeah. It was like second to the dog by Adrian. I was going to say like the way that we can there's no nodding. There's no milking. There is no nodding of any kind. No, there's not. I do feel like there are no one of our bears, no werewolves, no were things. It's withers. There are for it. Let's be honest.  And there were werewolves. I would, I would, I would accept werewolves in this. I would take that. Yeah. It was like a division of the military. Yeah. Oh, that would be kind of cool. Actually, if they were like sort of like the the SEAL team of maybe she could like be in a love quadrangle with one of the werewolves. Yeah. Why can't they just be cool wolves in battle?  Oh, hi. One, one, you know, it's like, it's a, it's a. Maybe we should be at this for a minute. Bethany has headphones on. It's fine. Oh, it's okay. Yeah. It's like a Chekhov's werewolf.  That's just how it is. I'm never going to the zoo with you. Yeah. Yeah. We're good. I have headphones on. So it's not like, oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I was like, oh no. I waited to say that until she confirmed that she had her headphones. Did you have fun? You can say hi. Hi. Hi. Did you have fun sledding? It's snowed a lot. So. Oh, okay. Nice. Yes. We got a sprinkling, but we didn't get a full. We got like several inches. So they were out doing that. All right. Yeah. Well, usually when inches come up in these chats, it's not for snow. Just wait. Just you wait. 10 seconds. Anyway, we probably should end this. Yeah. That's our cue. Yes. All right. Well, this was, this was fun. Yes. This is good. Okay. Thank you for picking it, Lena. Yeah. My absolute pleasure. I'm just so relieved. Among the more successful of our books, I think. I agree. I agree. We can all thank Alan. Yes. Thank you, Alan. See you guys back in three months. Three months. Amanda's channel. It'll be fun. Yay. Cool. All right. Have a nice day. Bye, guys. Bye.


The COVID-19 Prevention and Control Amendment No. 2 Act received the approval of the House of Assembly on Tuesday, 31 August 2021. The amendments which allow the enactment of key changes to the COVID-19 management operations in St. Lucia include their removal of a minister as the head of the COVID-19 management body, protocol breaches to be changed to ticketable offences, and the name change of the Command Centre to the National COVID-19 Management Centre. In the act, the Command Centre advises cabinet on matters relating to COVID-19 and has oversight activities required to reduce or prevent the spread of COVID-19. A Command Centre is generally seen as a place used to provide centralized knowledge for a particular purpose. The name, Mr Speaker, does not suggest any connection with the COVID-19 pandemic. As a result, the bill amends the act to change the name of the Command Centre to the National COVID-19 Management Centre. This new nomenclature makes it clear that this body of persons is in St. Lucia responsible for administering and supervising the COVID-19 pandemic. The amendments to the act also facilitate the addition of representatives from the Trade Union Federation, the private sector, St. Lucia Medical Dental Association, youth organizations and other individuals approved by the cabinet to the COVID-19 decision making body. Minister for Health, Wellness and Elderly Affairs Hon. Moses Jabatis pointed out that while the pandemic has ravaged the economy and social systems in St. Lucia, the amendments allow the government to be timely in its COVID-19 response. He highlighted measures enacted by the government to bolster the country's coronavirus prevention campaign. These include the establishment of a new communication system at the Victoria Respiratory Hospital and the supplementation of 12 cell phones and accompanying packages to doctors and nurses. And as we speak, there are now eight new medical support staff at Victoria Hospital. Today, they went in today, Mr Speaker. Before Friday of this week, we are going to have 15, no, 12 patient welfare assistants at the Victoria Hospital. They'll be trained. And before Friday of this week, this problem with relatives bringing things to the patients and it takes days. It's not the fault of the staff. The doctors are so burdened. They have to tell you their stories. So we need people to bridge that gap and to make the experience better for our people. The minister added that patient welfare assistants will also be employed at other major medical facilities around the island.


Hey guys, it's Nate, A.K. The Foot Account, and welcome back to the channel. The Foot Birthday loading screen is here, and it is confirmed now that we will have Foot Birthday coming this Friday in FIFA 21. That is what the loading screen is for, of course. And it's finally nice to have something confirmed about Foot Birthday. We thought it was gonna be last Friday on FIFA's actual birthday, and it's gonna be this Friday instead, which is gonna be good. It's gonna be good, and hopefully we get some more updated loading screens throughout the week. They're starting this early with loading screens. That makes me think that they're gonna possibly update it every single day tomorrow, or sorry, today on Wednesday, tomorrow on Thursday. We should get at least two updates to that loading screen possibly first with the car designed today. And that would be, in my opinion, what I think they would update the screen first with today on Wednesday. Probably won't change too much. They'll just add the card to it, which supposedly right now, this is the card. It's a little bit of a leak. They've been tossing it around on Twitter, but this is what the card supposedly looks like, kind of similar to the loading screen. I need to see it in full res before I really start to make an opinion on it, but not too sure what I think about that at the moment, but that is supposedly what is going around. Now also, I wanna say this, right? Because this is such a big promo, and everybody on FIFA right now just feels starved of a promo in foot. So people are like thinking, and there's a lot of leaks going around, and I'll say this, there's so much energy and hype about foot birthday, just building. Be careful with what leaks you see, and what people are telling you about what is gonna happen or who is in. Because of course, when we get a promo like this, everybody likes to build the hype by putting up players that could potentially be in or telling you that there are leaks, right? Now, making a prediction, right? And making concept cards is very different than making or declaring something as a leak. So just wanna say that and put that out there, because I don't really know if people have legit leaks, because we are still multiple days before this promo. Unless you work at EA, I feel like you really, really don't know. So just be careful with what you see on some of that stuff. As we know, you can, there's people that tweet out quote unquote leaks, five minutes before an SBC is gonna be dropped, and it's a completely different player. So, you know, Mbappe player of the month reference there, if anybody understands that one. But I just wanna talk about what happened on the market yesterday with that loading screen. Was there panic and will it continue? There was a little bit, right? We did see a little bit of the market drop. Honestly, I think the place where I saw the biggest market drop was two different places, right? SBC fodder was place number one, and number two were some of the moments icons. Now, some of those moments icons are very, very low at the moment, but a lot of stuff was actually lower pre 6 p.m. There was a lot of sell off pre 6 p.m. yesterday on Tuesday. I remember one card specifically, this Usman Dembele freeze item, who was already low at about 1.08, I think 1.08, he's 1.05 right now. There was one that went on bid for 1 million coins, basically 1 mil flat earlier today, which was a very, very, very low price. Even 1.05 is pretty low right now. So, there was a lot of panic selling yesterday pre content drop on icons, on special cards specifically, and some of those bounced back a little bit, not a ton, some of them bounced back, but it made for some potential flipping scenarios, which I was able to just now flip a Campbell that I got at 600,000 coins flat, so that was a nice one. I got this Bruno at low 3.30s, trying to flip him, and got a couple Orsik that I'm flipping, couple random cards that just got low today that I'm trying to flip at the moment and make some coins on the market, but there was a decent amount of sell off. Now, I don't think you saw crazy, crazy panic, right? And that they think we were looking to see if there was gonna be panic, but as I look at prices across the game, I'm really not seeing panic. I'm just seeing a little bit more of a sell off, right? And I honestly think that with that big loading screen out, and with more speculation about foot birthday, and cards that could be in, and all that sort of stuff, you're probably gonna see stuff continue to just trickle downwards, maybe fluctuate a little bit, but there's not gonna be a lot of incentive for people to buy and try cards, and to buy players off the market right now, because of a big promo that is coming. So I think that will probably hold some people back from buying Inforums and special cards. So yes, you can still trade with some of these, but make sure you're really getting a good deal and the price is low. Like this David at 91K, that is low. He was like 110 earlier today, 91,000 coins is very cheap. But honestly, I expect, I think, the market to keep sliding downwards a little bit further, even into today on Wednesday, during in some areas for sure, I would continue to expect that, because people are gonna see the card design, like right now, maybe some people that are more casuals, they see that loading screen and they have no idea what that means. They just see that and like, hmm, that looks to be like some sort of promo is coming, but what is that actually? Wow, 91K for this Jonathan David card is literally just sitting there. He was like 110 earlier today, which still looks like he is pretty rare. So you know what? I'm gonna fluctuation trade this, pick up this Jonathan David, center attacking mid position change as well, and I'm gonna list that up for maybe, let's say 105, we'll try 105 with a position change and the chemistry style, and maybe we'll get a sale on that card in the next, in the next little bit, because it looks like for some reason, he's dropping off right now. Anyways, that's a fluctuation trade. I feel super confident about that one. You know, 91K up to 105, that's a nice little bit of profit right there. That's the kind of stuff you can be doing right now if you want to. Now, there's still a little bit of risk involved, because again, like I just mentioned, there's not a lot of people going out and buying, but out of pack specials constantly fluctuate, and if you pick up a buyer, you find one buyer, boom, you make a nice flip. So that's kind of the ways that I would be trading right now, but then to speak about what kind of sell-off we saw today, we actually saw a pretty big sell-off and the most panic, I would say, on high rated SBC fodder, because what happened was there was no icon player pick released, no big time SBC that released required high rated cards. So a lot of people said, oh no, full birthday is confirmed, that means pack supply coming on Friday, so they sold off a lot of their high rated cards. I saw Matt Hummels today who was out of packs with his man of the match card. By the way, all the man of the matches are in packs until today on Wednesday at 6 p.m., then they go away, but this guy was out of packs today and I should have bought more of them. I only bought one of them at 39,000 coins. He was panic sold from 50K all the way down to 40, and then went back up to 46, because he is out of packs. And yes, he still has demand because people are doing SBCs still, because there's not a lot to do. So people are still crafting and doing some SBCs. So there was a market movement right there today that I took advantage of in a small portion, but it could have been more. And then of course, you saw a decent amount, like Kimmich is 52K. Some of these 88 rated dropped off a decent amount, I believe, from what they were earlier, 58K down to 52 for Kimmich. So some of the stuff, if you have high rated fodder, it's kind of a tough predicament, right? Because you're like, yeah, I bought this stuff. Hoping for SBCs, like people were buying De Bruyne over 100K and now he's down at 98. I guess you could kind of hold on if you wanted to until after rewards.  But again, you probably have marquee matchups and rewards that might supply the market a little bit. But I still, with a loading screen out, I don't expect that many people to open packs. But some people obviously will because they want to get coins to complete whatever SBCs that they're working on. But I do think that you'll probably still see a little bit of sell-off. I wouldn't call it panic, just a little bit of sell-off throughout this week. Now, one thing to watch today is the what-if cards that are getting upgraded, right? Leme Lu is one of them, Mertens. Where are the other guys at? Satcho's already upgraded, Jovic and Regulan. Those are the four cards that are getting upgraded today, guaranteed as a part of what-if upgrades for completing their objectives. 100% keep an eye on those. Regulan was like 2.17, I think, early on the day on Tuesday. And some of these guys have actually dropped off from where they were, and there's not as much hype. So just kind of be careful with these if you have any of them, because the hype is 2.1 or K for Regulan. The hype is dying a little bit on some of these cards. Now, maybe it rises up a little bit right before the upgrade, but I think people are starting to catch on that these cards really do not go up in price for their upgrades. They usually drop after the upgrade and then maybe rebound back a little bit later, kind of like Mbabu has, but most of them continue to drop until the upgrade. But again, what does foot birthday being confirmed mean for this game once again? Honestly, I just think that more people will go into pack save mode. Like if you're somebody who likes to trade on a low budget or you wanna try to trade where it's hot right now, I would go out and I know it's not the most glamorous thing, but trading with league SBCs, right? Because people are gonna be stacking packs and completing these SBCs to get packs for the upcoming promo that is on Friday. That's the number one thing that I think people are gonna be doing in the SBC section right now. Yes, people are also gonna be stocking the rare golds and non-rare golds because you have got a 81 plus double SBC and 82 to 88 and the 83 plus repeatable. People are gonna be stocking those and even completing those 81 plus SBCs that are out right now in order so that they can get their clubs ready for potential icon player picks or just to open more packs on Friday. So I don't think that gold rares and non-rares have gone up at all, but now 100% since the promo was confirmed, yeah, it looks like these are going on bid for 300 to 350 coins so they're not actually getting bought up. Now it's still a 100% insane great time. These are basically a discard to stock your club with non-rares and for rares for when upgrade packs would come out during foot birthday. And of course, as we talk about leaks and stuff, as people start to mention leaks, like maybe Jonathan David is down right now because there's the leak going on, like he might get into the Future Stars promo or sorry, the foot birthday promo or whatever. I hear a lot of talk about Ferlan Mendy, right? I don't really think you can link and vest to the foot birthday players that will be coming out and yes, there's gonna be a lot of people that probably start to buy. Let's say like we get a loading screen on Thursday and it shows Brazil in the middle, smack dab in the middle with like one stat or something like that or maybe a PSG badge or center attacking mid with Brazil. That's obviously gonna make people think about Neymar. One thing you're gonna see when we start getting hints and when we start hearing about players gonna be in this promo, you're gonna start seeing people going and buying the gold version that will be going out of packs because if it's a meta card, like a lot of these guys are, it's one investment that is very, very popular among people in trading groups in this game is they go buy the card and it's gonna go out of packs. Like if Neymar looks to be on the loading screen, you're probably gonna see some people going buy this Neymar because it'll be out of packs, right? So that's kind of one thing that I would watch out for. I don't really get involved in any of that stuff but that is one thing I do think you will see. Now I wanna talk about the saved pack aspect of this too and fodder once again. Now as we watch some of these special card prices maybe fluctuate and continue to head downward into the weekend. You know, one thing you're really, really, really gonna wanna plan yourself, right? I always talk about for big promos, making a plan for yourself. What do I wanna do with this promo? Do I wanna buy a team? Do I want to trade and make the most coins possible? Or do I wanna open upgrade packs or just try out some of the new players? Obviously with the number of packs that are saved and what has been going on related to SBC fodder being very, very inflated, that's why you saw sell off today because people are expecting with all the supply that's gonna come on Friday, they're expecting fodder to drop which I think is a very realistic and probably is gonna happen expectation for the market on Friday when the foot birthday promo drops and all those packs are open. But I just wanna say that I know there's gonna be tons of people looking to buy SBC fodder on Friday when the promo drops in the first couple hours on bid, on snipe, whatever it may be because people are gonna see that, hey, it's dropped down and it's probably gonna go back up. Yes, I do think fodder will go back up at some point. I don't know though since there's been so much hype about buying fodder recently and we still have so many SBCs that are out in the store. I am never somebody that really goes like insane, insanely deep in SBC fodder but I know there's gonna be a lot of people that will be doing that on Friday. So just be careful when there's a lot of people that are going to invest in something like that, EA know that they have been making SBC fodder very, very lucrative for traders in this game right now. That's why they released the Foot Player Days promo to drop it all down. Well then of course they released more SBCs and it goes right back up again. So I would just say if you're buying fodder this weekend I don't like the huge play of going all in just yet. I would wait and see of course what comes out more so with the promo. We're probably gonna get some big icon player big SBC once again but just a club stock in my mind is the way to go. I mean if you see some of these cards like Jordy Obla's 33,000 coins which is down 100%. If you see this guy back down at 30,000 coins which is kind of like a low for him like 86's and 30K's and below is kind of where they went a couple weeks ago during Foot Player Days right here 30K. They were up at like 40, they went down to 30 then they went back up to 40 this week and now they're kind of coming back down again. If you see them back down in that buyable price pick a price for these cards where you say hey I wanna buy this 86 rated or 86 rated cards I wanna buy at 30K and below because I know that they will at some point go to 40 to 42K. Pick a price, right? Don't pick a time. That's about my number one my number one advice on SBC fodder investing will be pick a price not a time because if you pick the price you know that this Tony Cruz card is 55K right now. He spiked to 76K when the icon player pick came out and he was around 60,000 coins earlier this week. Right now he's 55. You look at his lows. All right, you know low 40s on Xbox and mid 40s on PlayStation. That might be a decent buy for a Tony Cruz card like this. That's what I would do with this fodder if you wanna buy it this weekend with the promo. And I'm gonna talk about this a little bit more in the next couple of days but I feel like this is one of the biggest areas right now where everybody is focusing in on especially with informs, right? Of course you wanna sell informs because EA, I feel like EA is gonna supply them somehow and they're probably gonna continue to drop. There's gonna be a new team of the week today which is gonna supply some informs on the market but unless there's tradable packs applied today on Wednesday there's not gonna be many people that are opening packs anyway. So I don't know how the informs are gonna work today on Wednesday with a new team of the week coming out but I'm thinking that some people are expecting those informs to be a little bit cheaper than some of the cheapest rated ones on the market right now which will drop some of that market. And again, I mean one thing EA could do is drop one of those team of the week repeatable SBCs. I don't really think doing best of team of the week would drop fodder prices for team of the week cards but I think we are at the point when EA corrected fodder with foot player days when they corrected the whole SBC fodder market I feel like we're at a point where EA kind of needs to do that again especially with informs and that's why it would just make sense for them to drop some sort of inform upgrade repeatable team of the week SBC soon. I know I mentioned that a couple of times and it hasn't happened yet but I still feel like that is something that could be on the horizon. But again, just for the market this week, Thursday flipping, we'll talk a little bit here about that at the end. I think some stuff worked last week just because there was nobody that was investing and I think people are gonna be scared as well this week to invest but a lot of times what we've seen is when people are scared to invest that's honestly when you see some of the best movements and some of the best profits is when people are scared to invest. So maybe just look around the market this tonight on Wednesday, if you see cards drop a little bit more think about some stuff that is very meta, that is very popular, that people are always buying on Thursdays that always seems to go up like this Bomba Inform, right? Use flip into your advantage. Go check out some of these informs that fluctuate every single week. If you go take a look at this guy's card his movements are actually kind of wild. This Bomba is, I guess I won't find out because it's kicking me out but let's do a quick little search here on Bomba. Not the 87, I want the 84. 84 rated team of the week Bomba is 66,000 coins but if you take a look at his graph, boom, he went from 55 to 71. Last week, he was 58, 58K, boom, he went to high 60. So right now he's still in the high of him in 60s so that may not be the best Thursday flip but find a card like this that has had movements similar to this Bomba in the last two weeks, right? You go through here on your all team of the week's page, you scroll down, click on a couple random team of the weeks and just look at the players that are inside there. Like this Cancelo is a very meta card. You know, this Delaney links to a lot of the new cards in the SBCs and the players that we have had recently, this guy goes from like 90 to 100K. That's not big profit but if you wanna try to do a little bit of Thursday flipping, that's where you could look and maybe on some meta golds as well, you take a look at a guy maybe like a Bomb Yang if he moves around every single week. How much does Van Dyke move? 118K right now, 21 million games played. He really doesn't move much. He goes from like 109. You know what, last week he went from 109 to 120. So that's not the best flip ever but if you got some Van Dyke's at 105 on bid, soul him at 120 to 123, that'd be a decent Thursday flip. So there are some of like the gold cards and some of the specials that I think could be flippable this week because there's ultimately gonna be a little bit of demand after rewards on Thursday.  If there is any sort of panic, it might be because of cards that are on the loading screen. If there's any cards that are made clear to us that it could be X player, Y player that would cause a lot of panic, that's something that I do think we will see. Now I'm gonna talk about how we can maybe make some more coins with this promo tomorrow as we maybe learn a little bit more about it and of course talking about that first hour supply and what that is gonna mean for the market on Friday because it's gonna be crazy, right? The first couple hours on Friday, on promo Friday is gonna be pretty nuts. So anyways, if you guys are stacking packs, foot drafts are kind of a way to do that right now. League SBCs, that's a way if you want to try to get some packs, you can 100% do it. Just hop on open bids, that's my 100, you can see like on my transfer list, I'm looking at a lot of open bids like I missed this Renato, I missed this Zanetti for 306 and open bid because I would have been able to sell this at the 330, 340 range. That would have been a nice bit of profit. I missed a Van Anholt rule breaker at like 116, I think it's right here. That sells for like 130,000 coins. So open bids are 100% the way to go. Man of the matches again, Orsic, Pogba, Vasquez, those guys go out of packs today and these guys are very rare. So these are kind of interesting plays to me. The Pogba position change, I don't know how much demand there is. The Orsic car doesn't have very good links but as a super sub maybe Lucas Vasquez possibly just kind of keep an eye on those cards because they're very rare because there were not a lot of packs opened while those guys were in the game. So that's kind of my thoughts on the market right now talking about what could happen over the next couple of days and just talking about this market in FIFA. So it's going to be interesting to see what they update the loading screen with. I'm just expecting the car design and that's about it. I don't expect a big Wednesday of content. Maybe one other like player SBC, I'm really not sure what they're going to do. I know you see all marquee matchups because of course there's no championship games this week and it'll be interesting to see who gets in team of the week today as well to see if we have any headliner upgrades and stuff like that. But again, with the market, the way that is one last word on the what if cards, I would probably take the safe cash and you know, regular lawn was a 200K flat when I just looked, that's really low but I don't even know if this guy goes back to like 215 maybe this morning on Wednesday pre-content drop for a little bit, but there's so many listed overnight at 210. That's, there's just a lot of investors that were involved here. And if you saw the biggest drops on cards yesterday after the loading screen, the biggest drops on the market were where there were the most investors, right? So that is one thing that we did see today. One quick word as well. I know I keep saying one quick word but the Chicharito SBC, I want to make a quick comment about this because this is coming in at 75,000 coins. This card is not very meta for the three star, three star. The stats look good, but the three star, three star and the work rates do not. This is basically some almost the same price as 89 rated fodder right now. Informs, if you have an untradable inform in your club, do this SBC because it's going to be like 50K if Informs weren't so inflated, this would be like a 50K SBC. And honestly, if you want to wait six days, who knows what happened six days. We could have a team like SBC that would drop SBC fodder in the inform range and with all the packs applied, this SBC might end up being 55 to 60,000 coins on the weekend. So if that is the case and you don't have the stuff to do in your club from scratch or if you're going to be opening upgrade packs on the weekend when a foot birthday comes out, that will be a fantastic time to do this Chicharito SBC for fodder or just for fun. Of course, it links to the Santos, Vella, all that kind of stuff. And then of course, we did get the brand new MLS two foundations with kind of that Gyao card being the only like good looking one out of all those. I don't know about Auro and Wanyama. Of course, Wanyama spurs old spurs player. I almost said old fashioned, that's not old fashioned. He was there like what, three years ago? Anyways, it was just kind of a, the loading screen was 100% the biggest part of our content yesterday on Wednesday. I expect it to be probably the updated loading screen to be the biggest part of our content today as well as the team of the week on FIFA 21. 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