And we are back with episode 14, The Prince of Investing. And we still haven't gotten canceled. So thank you guys for tuning in. The response is being great around the globe. The response is being great around the world. And as always, guys, I don't have a lot of time and I definitely know you guys don't have a lot of time. So we're going to jump straight into it. As you can see in the description box, as you can see in the title, it's Halloween and we brought in the wolf all the way from LA, Los Angeles, California. We have the real Wolf of Wall Street, Mr. Jordan Belford here live with us all the way from LA. I am honored to have him on. How are you doing, Mr. Belford? I'm doing well. How are you? I'm doing pretty good.  Well, I mean, I think unless you're living in North Korea or Iran, you probably have seen the movie The Wolf of Wall Street. So that was based on my life story. Leo, the character Leo played was Jordan Belford in the movie and it's off of two books that I wrote about 10 years ago and, you know, they turned into a motion picture. So that's who the Wolf of Wall Street is. Awesome. Awesome. So we are glad to have you here live in the studio and to talk about, you know, your life after being the Wolf and doing these things like that and writing the books and stuff like that. Now, one of the questions I got to ask you, right? Everybody saw the Wolf of Wall Street played by Leonardo DiCaprio, all of the great stuff like that. How accurate is the Wolf of Wall Street of how it really was back then? On some level, it was very accurate. Other levels, it was not as accurate. I'll give you some examples. I think that the, you know, in terms of the, you know, gross inaccuracies would be that is a scene in towards the two thirds into the movie where I get up and give a meeting and I say, guys, it's time for me to leave, put strap and we'll live on.  I'm staying, right? And I don't leave. That's not true. I actually left. I gave that meeting and left and I went on to run another company I own called Steve Badden Shoes. So that was my other business. So I ran that for a few years. So that, you know, sort of once that happened, there's a lot of contextual issues that are thrown off. But that being said, in terms of more specific things like scenes in the movie that where it kind of painted the wrong picture, well, I think a good example would be that, and I understand why they did this was that they made it seem like, you know, that the object was almost to sell shitty companies to people. And that was just never true. It just wasn't like that. I mean, you know, you make a lot more, you're investing, you make a lot more selling good companies than bad companies. Now, the most one I ever made in my entire career on Wall Street was when I took Steve Badden public because it was a good company, right?  It's a losing proposition. The problem is that when you're dealing in those small venture capital deals that I was, a lot of companies that you think are good end up going bad or whatever, there's problems.   It wasn't true. It wasn't like that. Ultimately, it came to that, but not because of the companies. It became because of stock manipulation and sort of stacking the deck against your clients, which is something I think that we saw happen all over Wall Street in 2005 and six. So I'm not trying to minimize what I did wrong, but it certainly wasn't something that was like planned from the beginning like that. Got it, yeah, that makes sense. Now, you made a good point.  Right. Now, one question. How did you get the name The Wolf?  How did you get the name The Wolf? Well, I was kind of out there. I mean, like, you know, the stuff that is true is the drug addiction, the women, the craziness. I mean, that was all true. The yachts and planes and the crazy lifestyle, right? So, and the thousands of sales meetings, you know, the meetings I gave in the rah, rah, rah, and training the brokers, that stuff was true. And that's what really intrigues people in the movie, that whole camaraderie and stuff. It makes the movie amazing, right? And of course, the personal conflicts with my wife and this, right, that really makes it exciting. The actual name itself, believe it or not, comes from Gilligan's Hawaii-based TV sitcom, Gilligan's Island. So first and out of the third, his nickname was The Wolf of Wall Street, believe it or not. And so it was gonna play on that. Got it, got it, okay. Now, we spoke about how accurate the movie was. How would you, what is something in the movie that you probably think that was probably left out, that they forgot all about Jordan Belfer? Well, that's a good question, you know? I think that what was left out of the movie, simply because it wasn't any one particular scene, but it was this idea that you see a little blip of it in the beginning where I sit down with Mark Hatter on my first day of work and up at that restaurant that he's explained to me how Wall Street works, right? Very funny scene. And I, being a babe in the woods, say, well, can't we make our clients money too, right? Sort of, you know, idealistic young kid, and he goes, nah, that's not what we do here, right? Well, from there, the next scene in a strip club, snorting coke and going wild, right? Like, it was, it happened. That's not what happened, okay?  You know what I'm saying? Very slow de-evolution of the human spirit, basically.  I never was out there breaking your laws my whole life. And then, you know, all of a sudden I went to Wall Street and I sort of went on this path. So, you know, how did that happen? What was that process by that step-by-step incremental process? The problem is that you only have a couple of hours in a movie, right? It was a TV series for a couple of years. You could have seen that happen, but I understand why they did what they did. Okay.  Like that sort of stuff. Like, how did that happen from someone who was raised well, never broke a law, right? You know, it's a different story. It's not as an exciting story, but it's a very, I think it's an intriguing one though. Now, with that lifestyle, did you enjoy it? Listen, I always say that things that make sense at 25 don't make nearly as much sense at 55. So at 25 years old, yeah, it was fun.   So I had fun for sure. If I could change things, I would change a few things for sure. But, you know, you look back, you learn from your mistakes. And I had to ask that question because, you know, you became the epitome of Wall Street. Like, you know, people thought about Wall Street, this was everybody's dream. It was like, man, look at the yachts, look at the women, look at the, you know, the drugs. So it was just like, man, that is Wall Street, you know. So that's why I had to actually like, hey, did you know, yeah, looking back, I was like, man, you know, the movies made it look great. I wasn't there. I didn't see it. I wasn't on Wall Street. Again, it's fun to watch someone else, but to be your own life is not all it's cracked up to be.  But again, you know, you have to grow up at a certain point.  All right. Now, the question I have to ask you now, I know that you spend all these years in investing, built this maids and firm, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars, you know, the Wall Street, all that great stuff like that, writing the two books, having the ups and downs that you had. Is Mr. Belfer still investing today? I invest, but I mostly invest in private companies that I want to take public, I'm not really out there investing in public companies. Okay, so you don't really get them capital. So, you don't really do stocks anymore, you do like more like venture capital is like getting, you know, new startups and stuff like that. Right. Okay. Now, how do you find these new startups? Do you, do you? They come to me typically, you know. Oh, they come to you. So, people find you and say, hey, I got this idea, I got this company, I got whatever the case may be and you look at it and say, hey, you know what, I think this is worth crap or I think this is good, something that I get behind. Correct. Yeah. Okay, now, are you still open for clients because it may be somebody that's listening like, man, I would like to have. I'm always open to hearing a good idea, but again, you know, there's a process by which someone has to get to me. A lot of times, they pay me as consultants, they'll hire me as a consultant and that's how it gets started and I'll be helping them and they'll, let's say they get so much value in what I'm doing, they'll walk me a piece of the company and then they want me to get me more involved and so forth. So, a lot of it happens that way. Okay, so you actually do consulting for like new startups that are maybe looking for funding? Yeah, I do start mostly not for startups as much as for companies that are already in business that have some traction. Got it. And they want to now take their idea and monetize it, roll it out. I'm very good at, don't know how to do that. Okay. All right, so now I got to ask you about the new things that's on the market nowadays. I know you say, hey, I'm only private and stuff like that. What do you think about the rush we have nowadays into Bitcoin and cryptocurrency? Cause I saw something on MarketWatch where you were saying, if I'm getting this correctly, that article was correct. Well, you thought it was like one of the biggest scams ever. What do you think about the new cryptocurrency, Bitcoins, Litcoins, Ethereum, all that other great stuff? I think that it's not so much that Bitcoin is a scam. It's not that. It's what's happening around Bitcoin and also the speculative fever and the rapid rise that's based on nothing more than pure speculation. So, well, I believe that cryptocurrencies do ultimately could have a role in the global economy. The problem right now is it's just that there's all these fraudulent operators and opportunists right now who are preying upon the hopes and dreams of unsophisticated people selling their new cryptocurrency as the next Bitcoin and so forth. And this is just like gonna end badly because it always does. It's just a bubble of really unsophisticated people running into a mall because it's been going up and typically that's the time when things will pop out and eventually crash, when everyone starts to jump in and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.  So, I would look at Bitcoin right now as probably being the least risky of all these things. Like, for instance, today I just was on Facebook and I saw an ad, a paid ad, it says, take advantage of the next Bitcoin. This one could be what Bitcoin was in 2011.   You can do it, you can buy a program and create one now, right? Or should probably 10 grand to do one and they hold a lot of themselves, they'll create some interest, they'll bump up the price and they'll dump it. It's pretty simple, you know. Okay, got it, got it. I give up just saying. So, you're pretty much saying it could be a classic pump and dump type situation that could be going on with the whole Bitcoin currency. 100%, yeah. Got it.  You can get it now for a penny. Everybody jumps in, they creates interest, they put a big marketing plan behind it. Once everybody buys it, then they sell out theirs, classic pump and dump. It's just classic. Got it, got it.   What advice would you give someone that is listening to this that wants to get started in investing? Well, number one, educate yourself. Right now, there is simply no excuse not to go out there and become totally, financially educated in what you want to buy. All the information is out there, you get it?  That's the number one thing. Number two, find someone who is a sophisticated investor you trust and ask them for guidance.  Got it, got it. So what we're going to do guys, we're going to take a break right here. We're going to take a one minute break and we're going to get more into the wolf, what he's doing today, what he has out now. And I was, you know, more with the wolf. So you guys stay tuned and we'll be right back with more on the Think Tech of Hawaii. This is Think Tech Hawaii, raising public awareness. We have this crazy thing going on today. I was just walking by and all these DJs and producers are set up all around the city. I just walked by and I said, what's happening guys? They told me they were making music. I had no musical talent and then sat down and kind of played to me. I saw it do it. For you. All right, guys, and we're back live more with the Wolf of Wall Street, Mr. Jordan Belford. He's here right here live. If you guys haven't seen him earlier, we've been talking about all of his endeavors, you know, about him and what he's thought about Bitcoin, what he thought about investing, what he thought about the movie, telling about itself, you know, his personal life, all this other great stuff. But the thing about Mr. Belford, I saw him on the Breakfast Club and I was surprised. When I saw him on the Breakfast Club, he was doing, he was talking about his new book called The Way of the Wolf. And I actually downloaded it, right? I went and got, I went and got the audio and I went and got the audio version and I ordered a copy to sit back and read the book. I haven't finished it all the way completely. But one of the things that I found that was very masterful about him was, you know, most people think you think Wolf of Wall Street, you think the word Wall Street, you think maybe investing, but I figured out how good of a salesman Mr. Belford really was. He has a system, he broke down sales to, like, you know, I haven't read a lot of sales book, but he broke down sales to a, I would say the big, A mental level. A mental level, it was just crazy. He was taking it like, hey, you need to take this lip balm, you need to snip it right when you make a deal. And the thing about it, the way he took conversations, I was like, he broke it down to our art to where I'm not, I never considered myself a salesman. But when I thought about it, I said, well, everyday we're selling ourselves.  So it had a lot of good information there about the straight line salesman, about going off into Pluto and getting back and how he trained all these people. And even in the movie, where he took these kids that could pretty much, you know, do anything. But he closed the door. Yeah, couldn't close the door and turned them into master salesman.  Well, I think that, you know, one thing that is portrayed well in the movie, but it's, the movie's so over the top that I was like, you forget about it. It's like, it's how I was able to essentially accomplish what I accomplished, meaning taking these kids who were average, who were below average that had never thought or let's say that they were raised to think that they were not capable of achieving greatness. And any greatness that they naturally had in them had been basically conditioned to out of them since the day they were born, first by their parents, then by their friends, by their school teachers, by the media. I mean, they had been conditioned to be average, to basically survive, not to thrive. When these kids showed up in my boardroom, they had always limiting beliefs. And also, I would say 99.9% of them actually didn't possess any extraordinary skills that could make them great. In other words, there's two sides to this whole thing about, you know, every human being is capable of achieving greatness. Now, I believe that's true. I know it's true. However, part of achieving greatness includes learning specialized skills, possessing specialized skills, learning them if you don't naturally have them. And what happens to most people in the world is that they're not born salespeople. I'm a born salesman, I am, and no doubt I was. Since I was older than 12, I was just having a natural gift. And I developed that and honed it over the years, right? But most people are not like that. They don't like to influence and persuade, they feel uncomfortable, they don't know how to do it. So what happens is because it's such an integral skill to success.  You could be a teacher trying to influence your students on the value of education. You could be a pastor trying to influence your congregation on a certain moral compass. You could be a politician trying to influence your constituency. A lawyer trying to influence a jury. An entrepreneur trying to influence someone to give you money to invest in you. You could be an entrepreneur trying to recruit someone to join you, to buy into your vision for the future. You could be a person trying to get a job. You're trying to influence a owner to see the value in you. You could be an employee trying to get a raise. You get it? You're trying to have the value that you give to a company recognized. Well, how do you go about explaining that to people?  That's what ethical persuasion is all about.  It knows it and it will shy away from opportunity if you say, you know what? I don't really think I have what it takes. You know, if you're not good at persuasion, if you're not competent, you don't have to be an expert, but at least good enough. And that's the goal of the book. The book is for everybody. It's not just for salespeople. If you're a salesman, yes, the book couldn't turn you into a top producer. It's a very powerful system. It's worked with people all over the world, millions of people, literally millions of people. It changes people's lives. But if you're not a salesperson, it's simply a matter of getting yourself to a level of competency that sales, persuasion, or a fear of it will be removed and no longer hold you back from achieving what you want in life. Because it doesn't matter, again, it doesn't matter what you do. That skill is a linchpin skill to getting what you want. So what I did back in the day was I came up with a system where taking average people who were just okay or they were poor when it came to sales and make them into world-class salespeople. Almost isn't a matter of days a week, right? And once you do that, it changes the person fundamentally. They become more powerful, because they're empowered, essentially. You empower them to take action. They feel good about it. They feel confident about it. And the results stop pouring in. And also, it's a change in their own mindset because they say, you know what? Okay, maybe I didn't succeed in the past. Maybe I was average my whole life, but now I know something new. I'm a different person. So I was able to essentially rewrite their belief systems by giving them this very powerful system of persuasion. And once you learn this, it just, it makes you so effective. It's incredible. That's the story.  You know, like I said, I'm not paid by Mr. Belford or anything like that.  When I was reading this book, it made me want to go sell something. It just works, yeah, no doubt. It makes me, it reminds you of conversations you have in real life with sales people and stuff like that. So what I'm gonna do here. Let me give you one example. So I wrote the book myself. I didn't have a ghost writer. And I wrote the book in a way that I made it conversational. I wanted people to be able to connect with the book, laugh a little bit and sort of understand, you know, here's the goal. If you're an average salesperson, it'll make you great. If you're a great salesperson, you'll say, wow, now I know why I'm so great. I know what I gotta do every single day. It actually shows you, it's so logical and intuitive that when you read it, you say to yourself, wow, that makes, it all makes sense, right? If you're not a salesperson, what it will do is it will give you the ability to essentially go out and just move through the world in a more empowered way, bottom line. That's what it does. And it's very powerful. So what we're gonna do right here since we got The Wolf and it's Halloween, the first five people to comment on the YouTube link, you comment on the YouTube link, I will send you a copy of his book, no matter where you're at in the world. I know we got listeners in Japan and stuff like that. So what we're gonna do, the first five people to comment on the YouTube link, you comment on the YouTube link, or the Facebook link or wherever you see this, once you comment, write comment The Wolf, something like that. Write The Wolf, if you write the word The Wolf, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna email you, ask you for your mailing address. You have to give me your mailing address. Some of you guys are commenting that you're not giving me your mailing address to be able to mail you the product. I can't, I can't read your mind. So what you do is if you do that, you will get The Wolf, mail to you wherever you are in the world, courtesy of me. And thank you for stopping by and speaking about that. Now the thing that I noticed that was great about it, you know, when you look at the book and you look at the movie, that he was a great salesman. He knew how to teach other people sales and then he spoke about his life of going overseas and teaching companies that with these big sales strips, and he writes out these big sales strips and things like that, it's pretty, it was very, it was very surprising about persuasion and influence and it's not about manipulating people, it's about knowing how to get your point across to people and stuff like that. Is there anything, is there anything else that you would, like think speaking, knowing a good salesman, right? How can someone spot when something is full of crap? Like I need to stay away, I don't need to do this. How would you, well, how would you say that's what I'm gonna do? There's really, I think there's overall, there is two telltale signs. One of the things that I focus on in the book is that in order to close at the highest level, you need to tap into both logical persuasion and emotional persuasion, there's logic and emotion, very different things. People don't buy on logic, they buy on emotion and justify their decisions with logic. When someone's trying to influence you or sell you, if they're just making an emotional case, which is more about painting a picture of you in the future using the product and feeling good, getting the benefit, the future pacing, but they don't focus on the logical side, saying why ABC on a logical, why does this product make sense? What are the features, the benefits? What's the value proposition?  Number two, if someone doesn't ask you questions about yourself and just tries to sell you without knowing anything of value, you can't sell someone something until you first ask them questions to find out what their needs are, what their values, what their pain is, and what lack they have.  Got it, got it. Well, Mr. Belfort, is there anything you want to leave with your listeners, people that hear this on a podcast, watch this on YouTube, the people that's watching this live now, is there anything you want to leave with them? Listen, I think that one commonality among all people, salespeople, entrepreneurs, civilians, so to speak, right? People just out there working, just trying to make a living and live a good life for themselves and their family, those they love, right? You need to really examine, if you have the belief that, in the end it comes down to beliefs that sales or persuasion is evil or manipulative or it's not something I need to learn, I would urge you, I would urge you to really reconsider that, not because you want to go out there and tell people, so to speak, but every idea you have, every concept that you have, it has a certain value in terms of what it's worth, is it right, is it wrong, what's it worth, right? Well, you might have the best idea in the world. You might have the most value to give to someone else as an employee, as a person's friend, as a lover, even to find a life partner, right? Whatever that might mean to you, okay? Your idea, your value, your personal value, your product is either enhanced or diminished by your own ability to explain that to someone else. So I feel really, really bad for the people who are moving through life right now that don't have an internal communication platform and allows them to express themselves, to talk about their ideas, to get that, their point across to other human beings in a way that connects with them, that doesn't piss them off or bore them or make them think you're an asshole. If you lack that skill, just think about how crazy it is to move through life and have great ideas that are being diminished because you will not explain it to people. That's, to me, at the highest level what this book is about. It's a communication strategy that allows you to essentially get what you want in life. And without that, you had essentially those dying with your music on your lips locked inside you. The greatness that you have is locked away inside you and you can't unleash it because you can't explain it. That's it. Every great leader, whether it's a Nelson Mandela, right? He had great ideas, but his strength was his ability to rally everyone around him to communicate those ideas, to connect with people. Whether it was a Wozniak who had their incredible foresight with building computers, but it took Steve Jobs to communicate that and commercialize that. Whether it's a Warren Buffett who's now the third richest man in the world today, right? Warren Buffett, when he first graduated from college, he, there's a great video on this.  Back in, it was Dale Carnegie, back in the 50s. That was the gold center back then. He's the straight line, but he did that because he knew as great as he was at picking stocks and creating value, what would he be without the ability to explain to people? You know what he'd be today? The greatest money manager in Omaha, Nebraska that nobody ever heard of. That's it. So you have your skills for your business, your life, what you're trying to do, and then you have the ability to explain that to other people to get them to want to buy into your idea, your vision with time and money. That's what success is about, business and personal.  You could be a person that truly could make someone else happy. And as so much value in life as a partner, right?  You're great in bed, you have all these great qualities, right? But you are locked up, you can't explain it.  So it's an easily learnable skill, the straight line will show it to you. ABC, it's worth it.  Everyone, I think everyone created to have abundance, stop lack. So that's why I think it's an important book and why I think the skillset, your lurchment will change your life no matter what. Got it. So that's Mr. Belford. He said some great things there about, you know, the art of persuasion is just not about selling a product. There's a lot of times about selling yourself. Whereas becoming an employer as an entrepreneur, you have to rally up a group. And that's something that he did great in the movie where he rallied up these people to get behind them and things like that. So I'm glad for the wolf to stop by. So I got Mr. Belford, if people wanna catch you live, how can they catch you live? How could they follow you? How could they maybe get in contact with you or whatever the case is? Go to my website.  JordanBelford.com. Say again? JordanBelford.com and I have a world tour going on right now and it'll be all over the place. And I'd love to come to Hawaii as well. I gotta figure that out. I gotta find someone in Hawaii who knows how to promote events. But bottom line, I'd love to do that. Go to my website, you'll see all my stuff that's coming out. And, you know, if you're like most people, you'll have a great time and you'll learn a lot from one of my events. Cool, so that's Mr. Jordan Belford.  If you want one of his books sent to you free, on the show, comment with the word wolf, send me your address to wherever you're at in the world and we'll make sure you get your copy. Guys, as always, I'm, this is The Prince of Investing. My name is Prince Dykes. Thank you guys for tuning in each and every Tuesday. Thank you guys for all the tremendous support. Until the next podcast, video, cartoon, book, or whatever you see me do crazy around the globe in the world, peace, be safe, I'm out. Thank you.


All right, I don't hate flying. I'm not afraid of heights. I'm not afraid of dying on the plane But flying with my parents is just a phobia by itself So today I thought why not talk about another story of this moving experience? And I'm just gonna talk about the beginning of it, which is waking up at 5 30 a.m. To go to an airport first of all Asian parents are not good at packing at all And I know that's extremely racist to say to one group, but it's it's true. They don't organize it well They just stuff everything in and they think it'll fit but it never fits and if you don't know you can't put a container with more than 3.4 ounces of liquid in a suitcase Wow, that was big words and I told my mom will pay an extra amount of money just to have that extra bag full of Liquids and we don't know why I'm drinking this is because this is 12 ounces and my mom thought she could pack an entire Box of these in my suitcase now I pack my suitcase I don't know what my mom packs in after that because I have space My mom took up two and a half suitcases while I took up one and my sister took up one But a whole half of my suitcase was filled with drinks and I get that my mom can't speak English very well And I know that it's hard to remember this stuff But if you tell someone five times not to put liquids in the suitcase You would think they wouldn't put liquids in the suitcase and it just made me a little bit mad because we went to security and They saw the liquids there like all right We're gonna have to double check everything which takes around 10 extra minutes So my sister and I were a bit mad, but everyone makes mistakes. It's fine. By the way, if you can hear this That's my floor now we get on to the flight and we have to take two flights to get to Philly And if you don't know this connecting a flight to DC is one of the hardest things to do because it's Very jam packed and you might miss your flight, but the first flight was fine It was around four hours all of us fell asleep It was supposed to get there at 1 30 and it came at 1 45 But our second flight was scheduled to take off at 1 45 And it took off at 1 45 And if you don't know what's going on when we got off of the plane the first plane The second plane flew off already So now it's me and my sister and we're freaking out because we missed our second flight Which I never thought would happen in my life and we're asking customer service Is there another flight that gets to Philly at this time and they said at 3 o'clock, but Apparently that flight is full too, but the good news is there's another flight going from Baltimore to Philly and Baltimore Is an hour away from DC, but the problem is There's one seat available there So my mom takes the seat and me and my sister on standby now, which if you don't know what that means It means you wait for people to be late so you get on the flight Which means you're basing it off if people get there or not And if only my mom gets there there's another flight going at 4 so It's not that bad and I'll say that took around Two hours to figure out and then an hour to drive the shuttle to get to Baltimore So we're almost there And that's when I realized that I don't know where my suitcase is And I realized that the bag of liquids that we put in is on that flight that went off at 1 45 And I'm freaking out a little bit because my mom said all of our money is in there And I asked her why is the money in that bag and she said it's the only one with space left But if she didn't pack so poorly There would be more space So that plane gets there at 11 o'clock and my dad is freaking out So he decided to wait an hour and 30 minutes for that bag to go onto that little Ring around the rosy thing and I guess good news is he got it My mom and I take the next flight because another seat opened up But my sister had to wait for the four o'clock flight because No one was late and then I meet my dad finally at five o'clock When I was supposed to meet him at 11 o'clock and I guess that's The end of the story if you enjoyed this video give it a like leave a comment down below or better yet subscribe Um, I post videos I guess every sunday. I might miss a day again And if you have an airplane story, please talk about it. It makes me feel better. It does I love you guys and everything is less than three Oh, and when we got there and saw Philadelphia with all the big buildings My mom thought that was New York City


Good morning to you here and good afternoon to those watching in India and elsewhere. I don't know about you but I got to start my day watching online some presentations from India, an excellent session chaired by my colleague Rohit Sarun and starting the day dressed in my pyjamas getting to hear about cutaneous leishmaniasis, the problems of adolescence with HIV and also my favourite topic, Oryansia Tsutsukumushi, something that we don't talk about enough and what we got to hear about is looking at research and the questions that are most troubling our clinicians with our patients and our programs. How do we get access to not just doxycycline which is a very cheap drug but intravenous doxycycline for those who have severe scrub typhus? How do we think about a national program for cutaneous leishmaniasis with actual free access to drugs and how do we think about with the patients who are actually coming to our clinics such as adolescents in the Myanmar clinic getting treatment for HIV? Well yes they're turning up at the clinic but their rates of viral detection were actually far higher than adults so it's not just do they turn up to clinic but how do we give good care? And not to neglect a fantastic talk also from a non-MSF speaker talking about active case finding in TB and something that really there's a lot of evidence about that we should be doing it but we really neglected and I urge you to watch that talk later on which will be available online. I'm going to give a few housekeeping notes so our colleagues in India set the standard high we kept to time and I'm going to that's my job today is to try and keep us to time. That's going to be a difficult task because we have some fantastic presentations lined up and we're also going to have questions from you and the interaction with the panelists and the speakers afterwards but also with our online audience who will be given some preference for asking questions as well. So for those of you who are Twitter freaks feel free to follow the the feed hashtag msfsci online because some of the most interesting discussion is actually happening around the world where last year we were watched in in 100 countries at over 2000 different computer sites so there is a vast network of people interested in the topics that we're talking about today. It's now my great pleasure to introduce my boss actually the general director from the UK office Vicky Hawkins who has worked with MSF for many years and most recently was based in Myanmar for three years. Thank you Vicky. Thanks Phil. So I'm very happy to be the one to welcome you here today for what is the 12th scientific day and my second as the general director of MSF in the UK. So welcome to those that are joining online. Yes for yesterday we had over 2200 people join in over 90 countries and I know that we're expecting about the same today and welcome to those of you here in the audience at the at the Royal Society of Medicine. It is of course rather a momentous day here in the UK and not only because of a rather decisive and unexpected election result which had me frantically changing my speaking notes at seven o'clock this morning but because it is the scientific day and in particular I want to acknowledge the developments to this year's format. On that note I want to extend a particular welcome to our colleagues in Delhi so they have been scientific daying since 5.45 this morning discussing some really fascinating topics as we just heard from Phil. They'll be joining us for the HIV TB panel first thing this morning and we will be joining them for their leash of analysis panel at lunchtime today so I hope as many of you as possible will take time out from the delicious food that's provided here at the RSM to participate in that Delhi based session. They've been discussing research from Myanmar to Pakistan and it's very exciting to be hosting today over two locations and using this as an opportunity to connect with the Indian medical community. I want to extend a particular thanks to those that have been working on the technology that enables us to join up with Delhi today. For those of us that work inside MSF we all know that the technology is not always on our side but today it definitely feels like it's working with us so that's absolutely great. Yesterday we had a fascinating day on innovation in humanitarian assistance. To name just a few of the stimulating presentations we heard about mapping of factories in the slums of Dakar from which patients come to MSF clinics suffering the toxic after effects of their day job. I'm sure there's many people in this room that feel they have quite stressful day jobs but I don't think there's many of us that can literally say that we are poisoned by them. We heard about paradigm shifts in the application of data in boreholes, in non-communicable diseases and in tablet technology and having just returned from Beirut where I was meeting with our regional heads of missions I was particularly galvanized by those technologies that allow us to remotely work with national medics. National medics that are working tirelessly in exhausting conditions mitigating the effects of a four-year conflict. I of course am talking about Syria the biggest humanitarian crisis of our time. While I was there I was reminded of last year's keynote speaker Jennifer Leaning from Harvard University. She confronted us with our inability to reach those people that are stuck in the most dangerous and violent conflicts of our age. She exhorted us to change in order to be able to reach them better. The innovation and technology that we heard about yesterday can help us to do just that. Our keynote speaker today will provide us with similar food for thought. 2014 has been dominated for many of us by the Ebola outbreak. 26,000 people infected, 11,000 people died, 14 of which were MSF's own staff. For MSF it was our largest ever Ebola response but it was not enough. Our regular tools failed us in the face of an outbreak of that magnitude. We needed new tools, we needed rapid diagnostic tests, we needed treatment but above all we needed vaccines. We have to acknowledge that the efforts to to produce these were accelerated through an almost unprecedented coalition of academic, science, business and government but it was not fast enough. We need a fundamental change to the research and development system. We need a research and development system that provides outcomes for a global public good, one that is adapted to needs of patients, healthcare workers and governments and that produces accessible and affordable outcomes. This is a vision that I know MSF shares with our keynote speaker of today, Jeremy Farah from the Welcome Trust. But before we welcome Jeremy to help us deconstruct and reconstruct the global architecture for R&D, we have many other interesting topics to cover and many other insightful speakers to learn from. They will be introducing us to smaller scale research but research that is no less impactful on the daily lives of our patients. So without further ado I would like to hand you over to the first chair for the day, Katarina Kranzer from the LSHTN who will be leading the panel on HIV and TB.


Colorado, that's right. I don't even know if this is a town out here. Hi, it's between Denver and Colorado Springs It's called Greenland and the reason I came here are for the dirt roads and sure enough The roads are clear in Boulder, Colorado where I went to school It's like people love running on the trails in Boulder But believe it or not a lot of the pro athletes that train there elite athletes Olympians They train there for the dirt roads that are just north of Boulder Well, I have been eyeing these dirt roads here in Greenland, Colorado for years and years and I've never explored them But they look very hilly. I'm looking at one right now They look very hilly and it's gonna be perfect for today's workout. And what is today's workout? Okay? How to run faster? Threshold running aka tempo runs a lot of you have heard of a tempo run back at the studio I will explain exactly what a tempo run is what it does for your fitness how it helps you Prepare for racing. So we'll get into the details of that soon, but I'm gonna lace up hold on And for the threshold workout the tempo workout today, we're gonna take out the Skechers razor 3 I was a little on the fence between this guy and the turbo even though they have a similar weight class Anyway, so we're gonna go with the razor 3. I'll talk more about this back of the studio as well All right dirt roads blue sky. Let's rock and roll baby. Come on Oh, I can't wait to talk to you guys about threshold running. Okay. That was three miles boom spot on Quick swig of water and then I'm going so now 16 more miles. This is Basically my long run for the week But I can't explain it now like what I'm doing and why I'm doing it this way, but we will do that You know where all right. Come on 16 Realizing I don't quite have enough room to stand here. Hold on. I gotta gotta move this around hold on All right now We're set and ready to go to talk about threshold training But first two boxes arrived today this one appears to be directly from running warehouse I have no idea what's inside this box. We will open this one up in about five minutes. Stay tuned This guy we're gonna save these are used running shoes. You know who you are who sent them Thank you so much. Oh cannot wait to open those and for today's run 22 miles 35 kilometers overall 620 per mile and the first three miles was a warm-up and then I went it I went right into the threshold effort I didn't change shoes just kept the sketchers razor threes on and the threshold I wanted it to be basically right at 535 to 540 pace and that's where I was I glanced down on my watch You know maybe once every mile just to make sure I was I was moving at the right pace and Okay, and then 1300 feet of elevation gain So it was not flat by any means very rolly hills out there at about 7,000 feet above sea level So if you're looking for a great Faster than trails like you you're getting ready for a good marathon or half marathon effort And you want some some of that hilly work and at elevation and it was Immaculate down there and moving on to today's topic last week We talked about how to run faster upper right-hand corner building your aerobic engine remember Recruiting and developing those capillary beds for LSD runs long slow distance runs So that was last week this week I want to talk about threshold training lactate threshold training Specifically also known as tempo runs to a lot of other people in the running world I prefer the word the terminology of threshold training because it's a little more accurate as to what is happening Inside of your body when you are doing this type of training. So what is lactate threshold? Basically as you are running the faster you're going for longer distances.  It's not being what's the term? It's not being cleared fast enough from your bloodstream and therefore it's Accumulating in your bloodstream and that is what the burning sensation is in your legs when you start to hurt late in a race Okay, so that is lactate and in order to Train your lactate because that's really if you think about it like when you're running a race Oftentimes you're breathing hard, but if you're in good fitness shape a lot of times What's gonna end up slowing you down is the pain in your legs like you're gonna start to cramp up You're gonna start to feel your legs are gonna start to feel heavy That's what's actually gonna cause you to slow down Therefore in order to run faster and listen, I am talking specifically about marathon training and half marathon training 5k 10k it's absolutely critical to do lactate threshold work But we're gonna cover that in a different video as far as how to go about Doing that for like high schoolers for the 5k 2 mile It's just a little different because the distances are so much shorter And so as you're racing your lactate is slowly going up and up and up And then you're gonna reach a certain speed after a certain amount of time and it's different for everybody It's going to start to go up Exponentially based on how well you have trained your lactate threshold point and you want the goal is that you want to push When that the when that chart starts to go up Exponentially you want to push it further and further out down the distance chart and down the speed chart Based on your abilities so that that pain in your legs does not set in Early in the race and that point is exactly the point you want to train at you Don't want to go faster. You don't want to go slower You want to find that point and hold it and just hold it You don't want to go further and further into oxygen debt.  The first step is you need to figure out your 5k PR. All right So maybe let's just take 18 minutes as an example if that is your 5k PR You want to subtract 20 to 30 seconds from that average mile pace now I realize a 5k is like 3.1 miles, but we're just gonna call it three miles for simplicity So that's six minutes a mile therefore your pace for your lactate threshold run or your tempo run Would be 620 to 630 per mile does that make sense? All right, and so let's let let's say you're a fast high school kid And you're running like around 15 minutes. Whoa that means your Lactate threshold pace or your your tempo run would be about 520 to 530 per mile. All right Now once you have found that threshold pace that tempo run pace You want to think about the distance that you are preparing for and again We'll talk about 5k 10k 2 mile training it down the road today I want to focus on Marathon specifically maybe a little bit of half marathon for the marathon. Here's what I'm gonna do So guess what the Cleveland Marathon is 12 weeks away 12 weeks It's it's it's it's the perfect timing three months of threshold training. It's not all it's beautiful So here's what I'm gonna do you might do something a little differently, but I called today's run So I know it was a long run with the 22 miles But that that three mile threshold effort was a baby threshold effort. What will I do over the next 12 weeks? Every other week I will add three miles to my threshold run so the LSD the long slow distance pace will be reduced and the threshold pace Mileage will increase so it'll start to go like this and eventually that tempo run pace Will overtake the LSD pace does that make sense? So this week was three miles in two more weeks from today Hopefully if the weather holds two more weeks from today, I'll do six miles and then nine miles and then 12 miles and then 15 miles. Okay, and listen listen I am Getting ready to run a fast marathon like that is the goal and like there's a difference between running a marathon and Racing a marathon. I think everybody out there wants to race a marathon and go as fast as possible therefore, I want to prepare my lactate threshold as best as possible if if I want my legs to feel like, you know what at mile 22 if I can push off the pain to in the actual marathon race to mile 22 We are gonna be looking real pretty real pretty that is the goal And as you know, I'm preparing to get ready for 518 pace at sea level that's the goal So of course the key word today is threshold and I hope that made sense and listen We didn't get into the nitty-gritty science of the Of the lactate building up in our body and like how that happens chemically Maybe we'll dabble in that more down the road But I just wanted to give you that overview of how I plan to run faster in 2019 by Training my body to push that lactate threshold point whatever that point is before it starts going up Exponentially I want to push it further and further down the race course. Oh, baby All right question of the day. Do you use lactate threshold training? In your current training. Have you ever used lactate threshold training? What do you think about lactate threshold training? aka tempo runs and let me know your thoughts about this whole genre of racing I would appreciate it. Okay. I'm grabbing for a knife because I cannot resist I know the vlog is getting a little long because I just talked for a while. I can't resist I gotta open I gotta open this box. These are used shoes to give away these don't I I can't oh I cannot wait. Oh my goodness. I did not order these. I don't think I don't think I ordered these so run Oh my goodness Holda thunted. There we go Whoo, baby a sketch Skechers Skechers Skechers Skechers. Oh my goodness Thank you. I did not order these. All right. Here we go Hold on wondering hold on. Oh Baby Look at that ladies and gentlemen. Hold on though. Are these okay? Okay These are not for me False alarm. That's okay I think somebody just bought these brand new For someone because this is a size 10 Thank you. These are the Skechers go run ride seven. That's amazing Uh, that's amazing. These are not for me obviously because they're size 10 I you are amazing. So somebody's gonna get a brand new Skechers go run ride seven size 10 at some point when we when we start doing the giveaway You're amazing. I don't exactly know who did this but Thank you. Oh, what a beautiful world we live in Seek beauty work hard and love each other. All right I'm going inside to reply to all of your comments about the running shoes. Remember yesterday's vlog I've got probably a hundred comments to get to so I gotta get busy. Let's go