ino así porque él hace cosas que el mundo civilizado no conoce ni ha visto y los conocemos ya de sobras las pero empieza saliendo ahora yo estuve en el quibut ni rose y verte verlo con tus propios ojos ver las historias una por una casa por casa de hecho me llegó una prueba de que estaban drogados los los terroristas de jamás estaban drogados eso fue parte de la preparación hecha en iran pero tú ves exactamente el grado de sadismo que no tiene precedentes en mi opinión desde la segunda guerra mundial bueno también estuvo en el sur en nicol fue la ciudad de esterot que se encuentra cinco kilómetros de la frontera y nos preparó este informe con su visión en esta ciudad tan golpeada en medio de la catástrofe de la estación de policía en la ciudad de esterot tomada por dos días por los terroristas de jamás ver una estación de policía israeli heches combros era algo inimaginable antes del 7 de octubre el olor a cloaca aquella que imana el terrorismo se siente entre los charcos de agua sucia que se entre mezclaron con los trozos de cemento que quedó de la demolición el ejército israelí había llegado el 8 de octubre es de rod una ciudad capturada por los terroristas que se atrincheraron en la estación policial matando a los pocos oficiales de guardia la única manera de eliminarlos de moler la estación observo y no comprendo la policía israelí vulnerada por el vecino enemigo terrorista al que creían pequeño en esterot perdieron la vida más de 200 civiles israelíes un sábado de descanso de shabbat las calles son un desierto fantasmal la lluvia de balas están marcadas en su cotidianidad un consencionario de autos refleja sin sangre el horror donde lo doloroso no es la pérdida material sino que esas balas eliminaron vidas innocentes carros familiares con manchas de sangre sangre sangre la silla del niño en el coche se imaginan si ese niño hubiese estado allí sentado lo estuvo no sabemos pero de repente la vida nos envía un mensaje una camioneta blanca como la paz cargada de banderas de israel apareció a lo alto alguien colocaba en los postes de luz la bandera con la estrella de david como señal de identidad recuperamos la ciudad y conocí al encargado de colocarlas en esterot vemos cómo esta bandera de israel está siendo colocada por un árabe israelí que está allá arriba salá malécum toda roba más en suelja cuál es tu nombre ali su cram de rote no volverá a ser la misma como toda israel como todo judío del siglo 21 porque ahora toca ser resiliente sam harry's filósofo americano escribio la verdad es que todos vivimos en israel lo único es que alguno de nosotros no lo entendemos hay enemigo pequeño de gran británea el canciller schultz de alemania qué importancia tiene estas visitas en la región y sobre todo con los países del golfo todo lo que se hablaba antes con aria saudita hacia dónde vamos con todo esto la importancia es enorme porque ellos los líderes empezando por biden entiende que este no es un conflicto entre israel y jamás esto es algo mucho más amplio estos son coaliciones que de hecho se están enfrentando en el lugar que es el punto de encuentro entre occidente y el mundo libre y los yadistas islamistas entonces hay aquí un punto de encuentro en el que nosotros israel está en primera línea y yo creo que ellos empiezan a entender que también ellos tienen algo que ver con todo esto y por eso israel está recibiendo el apoyo internacional que está recibiendo incluso de países europeos como gran británea como francia como alemania como italia siempre han tenido una tendencia palestina mucho más mucho más pero entienden aquí que jamás no es palestina entienden aquí que jamás es un fenómeno muchísimo más grave que ha sido alimentado por iran en los últimos años no era si hace los primeros años de jamás pero lo es ahora hoy en día jamás es una organización totalmente iraní absolutamente financiada ahora arabia saudí arabia saudí está en un en una situación difícil porque ellos estaban muy cerca muy cerca de la normalización con israel iran lo sabía y por eso decidieron esta fecha como ataque hay que entender que jamás destrozó después de oslo cuando había esperanza de paz real en esta región cuando todo era positivo ellos empezaron los atentados suicidas y mataron el proceso de paz ahora están haciendo lo mismo dos dos décadas y media después están haciendo exactamente lo mismo están 30 años después están intentando matar la posibilidad de que israel y arabia saudí se lleguen a un acuerdo de paz y que se amplían los acuerdos de abram yo tengo una pregunta el logro con los acuerdos de oslo fue casi total consiguieron paralizarlo que es un estatus cubo donde ninguna de las dos partes fue a ningún lado pero lo que ha pasado el 7 de octubre es un game changer o sea no va a volver a hacer lo que había antes y irán irán va a conseguir de alguna manera evitar de que haya un cambio tal donde ellos de repente se encuentran en una situación aislada frente al mundo que se opone a su actitud mi esperanza es que irán no lo logre a medio plazo pero irán ha logrado a través de jamás son sus brazos postergar el proceso hoy este proceso está postergado pero yo creo que no está muerto todo lo contrario yo recibo indicios del golfo incluso os puedo citar alguien muy destacado en el golfo que me llama cada dos tres días y que me dijo una frase me dijo mientras no cortéis la cabeza de la serpiente la serpiente seguirá intentando matar y lo dice enrique que cuántas veces has estado en el radio saudita cinco cinco este año conoce muy bien bueno pero hay algo es un tema bastante amplio hay algo importante enrique que uno de los fenómenos que hemos visto es que el manipuleo y la desinformación que hay en las plataformas sociales y que es base fundamental de la información actualmente no nosotros vamos a escuchar ahora y quiero que me ayude a analizar lo a frey bernal frey bernal es el gobernador del estado tachina en venezuela sabemos la alianza que tiene venezuela con iran quizás la la alianza más fuerte de iran para en america latina no y luego a carloste va a mostrar unas gráficas que vamos a comentar sobre los caos y las opiniones que han tenido el respecto sobre toda esta situación vamos a verlo en agua sin electricidad bombardeado mientras estamos aquí tranquilos tomándonos un caso en san cristóbal ese pueblo está siendo bombardeado y hay que decirle al mundo libre que se pronuncie a las naciones unidas a la oea que dice la corte interamericana de derechos humanos que dice la corte penal internacional a nosotros y nos sanciona a nosotros y nos llaman las cortes y que pasa con el estado de real que pasa con el estado de real el estado de real si puede asesinar y exterminar a un pueblo es inadmisible en pleno siglo 21 que te parece las opiniones este gobernador del estado tachira de nicolas maduro presidente venezuela una caricatura tan simple como eso pero una caricatura premeditada o sea intent es un intento de engañar a la opinión pública presentando algo que es sólo una pequeña parte de la realidad es verdad hay sufrimiento civil en gasa es un hecho pero quien abrió toda esta guerra quien abrió las puertas del infierno quien empezó todo esto o sea estamos hablando de un grupo se olvidan que es homófobo que rechaza la mujer que no permite que la mujer tenga libertad y que además no acepta la existencia de israel y además de todo envía 1500 hombres drogados para matar judíos con el único objetivo de matar y secuestrar judíos obviamente no se puede defender en el mundo libre en el mundo democrático alguien así y debería preocuparle israel esa alianza que tiene iran con en américa latina con venezuela un pez petrolero de obviamente pero no sólo con venezuela con toda américa latina yo hace años que que sé que hay una presencia de grupos islamistas radicales entre ellos un país que es iran que es el padre de todos ellos que están en estos países cada vez más arraigados cada vez más agasajados y eso es un error porque es traer células cancerígenas a tu propio país si creo que vamos a un breve comentario acerca de la actitud que tiene el presidente petro de colombia bosque manejas relaciones internacionales ahí lo estamos viendo amenazar de cortar las relaciones con israel a que se debe esto se debe a sus intereses propios se debe a mucha mucha propaganda se debe a cuestiones económicas yo me imagino se debe a estereotipos muy profundos de si Einstein que es más fácil destruir un átomo que destruir un estereotipo y aquí estamos viendo gente que tiene no solamente intereses sino también todo tipo de prejuicios que han sido acumulados que venga este señor aquí le llevaremos al sur a la frontera de gaza le enseñaré el que bouts en el que yo estuve ayer en el que bouts near us en la enseñaré a carmela la casa de carmela una señora de 80 años que estaba siendo babysitter a su nieta el viernes por la noche y que de repente ve cómo entran en su casa y como ya está encerrada en el bunker le lanzan una granada y le incendian a casa y matan diva a su nieta autista y a carmela esto ocurrió en decenas de lugares esto esto sí que es genocidio y además premeditado lo otro es una reacción de autodefensa hablando de genocidio quisiera comentar algo que la gente no tiene idea como fue que gaza quedó tipo sandwich entre egypto y israel y la historia es que el presidente saddam se reunió con con beguin el primer ministro de israel para acordar el desenganche de las fuerzas en esa época saddam dijo mire yo recibo todo la península sinad pero gaza no lo quiero y vos sabes cuánta gente vivía en gaza en el año 1978 tenés una idea cientos de miles trescientos ochenta mil gasatíes y hoy cuántos viven más de dos millones y te diré que el promedio de hijos es uno de los más altos del mundo son siete niños por familia entonces cuando todo el mundo utiliza la palabra genocidio genocidio cuando tu población merma desaparece no cuando se incrementa no cierto hay aquí un problema muy serio con los conceptos israel es visto como un centro de colodialismo como fueron yo recuerda a los líderes de jamás diciéndome yo entrevisté a todos 14 veces entrevisté al fundador de jamás el jeque ajmedia sin en su casa y ellos siempre hablaban de los israelí es como los nuevos cruzados van a estar aquí una época y al final los terminamos por por echar y por derrotar de aquí y piensan que israel es como argelia es como afghanistan para estados unidos no entienden que la realidad es totalmente distinta aquí y vemos lo que está pasando en la sociedad israeli si me pedís para resumiros en una frase que ocurrió aquí el 7 de octubre esto es un intento de iran que olio debilidad dentro de la sociedad israel y olio sangre debido al debate político interno israelí en torno a la reforma judicial a la revolución judicial ellos lo interpretaron como una debilidad y decidieron atacar para dos cosas una para acabar con israel porque creían que esto haría que todos nosotros correríamos al aeropuerto de vengurion y tendríamos miedo y nos iríamos de aquí es la palabra a terrorizar y lo segundo acabar con el proceso negociador que nos está llevando a la paz posible con países árabes del de todo de toda esta región y fracasaron no lograron y yo estoy convencido que el tema de arabes sauditas será postergado pero no está muerto ni mucho que conoce la sociedad israelí será resiliente a toda esta situación que han conseguido el efecto puesto hoy en día los israelíes que estaban muy divididos en los últimos 10 meses están más unidos que nunca yo quiero decir algo porque mencionaste argelia yo he leído los libros de francis fanon que el ideologo de la revolución argelina y el consiguió a través de este mismo tipo de acciones echar a los franceses los franceses tenían a donde irse que la volverse a francia los judíos no israel no tenemos donde ir y yo nada por el mediterráneo no creo que pueda quisiera terminar nuestro encuentro con una propuesta has escrito un artículo que se llama se requiere una coalición internacional y árabe tenemos seis minutos para que nos expliques de qué estás hablando porque aunque no querramos hay que pensar en el futuro hablé otro día con el hijo del líder de jamás en cisjordania el jeque haza nussef que acaba de ser detenido de nuevo por israel y su hijo se llama moza biosef y luego se descubrió que era el príncipe verde que había sido un espía de israel de jun y cuando yo iba a su casa le entrevistaba no sabía que él ya era un espía de israel y él me dijo jamás odia los israelíes más de lo que ama sus propios hijos lo que decía guldameros y eso lo dice el hijo del líder de jamás en cisjordania lo que yo escribía aquí es algo que es difícil de hablar de ello en este momento cuando todo está ocurriendo pero creo que es vital que lo hagamos israel es la gran experta en la táctica pero fracasamos a veces en la estrategia hay que pensar en el día después hay que pensar hacia dónde vamos hacia dónde vamos a llevar todo digamos y es legítimo y creo que hoy en día en el mundo libre se entiende que israel tiene todo el derecho a defenderse y acabar con un grupo terrorista como jamás cuidado con la población civil separemos las dos cosas pero acabar con la pregunta es qué pasa el día después nos vamos a quedar en gaza ocupando gaza como hasta el 2005 yo no quiero que mis hijos estén ocupando gaza son dos millones y medio de gassatí es que tampoco egipto no los quiere a jordan y no los puedes mandar a levano tampoco están ahí se van a quedar ahí pero te acuerdas que vegin propuso a sadat y sadat lo rechazo es como un problema que nadie quiere tocar lo y hasta ahora qué hizo así si el presidente de egipto cerrar la frontera él no quiere que pase gente de gaza hacia el sinai el el tema eso profundamente y es un gran enemigo de famas también porque son los hermanos musulmanes a mí me gustaría que tú aprovecharas aquí las cámaras de este programa en español y que lo van a ver en cualquier otro idioma y si tú vices que hablarle a la autoridad nacional palestina al primer ministro no habas el presidente que quizás puede ser un sucesor a uno de los consejeros de aba josein que también puede ser un sucesor que le dirías tú con la experiencia que tiene que es entrevistado tanto en texto yo les diría que en un primer término tendremos que traer una coalición internacional por un lado pero árabe también tenemos que traer a los saudís que tienen el poder moral y el poder económico tenemos que traer a los egipcios que tienen poder político y tenemos que traer a los emiratís que tienen visión de futuro y que me dicen os voy a contar algo que nunca dije que están dispuestos a hacerlo y están dispuestos a coordinarlo abudabi los emiratís y dos reinos el marroquí y el jordano estos países tienen que venir aquí y tienen que preparar el terreno no pienso que israel tenga que permanecer muchos tiempo allí estuvimos en el libano 18 años no quiero repetir libano dos nosotros tenemos que estar vencer a jamás limpiar el terreno entregarlo a esta coalición que incluirá estados unidos y la única posibilidad real de futuro es que esta coalición agasaje la autoridad palestina y la traiga allí quien será en la autoridad palestina está por ver pero sin escuche muy bien a todas las naciones que mencionaste lo que deja fuera a los que financian ahora que escatar y de una manera es impedir el acceso de iran o sea de esa manera se cerraría un círculo en el cual quizás podemos pensar en un futuro mejor iran tiene que estar fuera de todo iran es un estado terrorista que está desestabilizando el mundo libre entero israel es parte de ello y cómo será para para apartar iran hay que hacer una coalición internacional con todos los países que están que tienen que preocuparse por el futuro iran no es una amenaza para israel iran es una amenaza para el mundo libre y para el mundo árabe suni que está amenazado por ello y cuando dice todos países europa medio oriente america latina también aparte estados sin duda yo creo que países de america latina tendrían la obligación de ser parte de la reconstrucción de gaza y ser parte del futuro de esta región bueno realmente enrique muchísimas gracias por tu análisis creo que de esta manera desde nuestro pequeño rincón contribuimos a que la gente comprenda mejor que es lo que está pasando y compartimos tu visión de que el futuro también hay que pensarlo porque hoy están todos enfrascados con lo que pasa en este momento con el dolor de las víctimas de israel con los desaparecidos que hay que mencionar y que nosotros de aquí pedimos a las organizaciones internacionales que hablan de humanitarismo en el mundo que se ocupa en eso también muchísimas gracias y esperamos más adelante quizás volver a contar contigo para explicarle el mundo esto que está gracias enrique con nosotros nicole realmente un tema sobre el que vamos a seguir hablando y los que quieren nos pueden seguir en facebook en twitter en el canal 34 de jod responde a nuestra encuesta y seguimos hablando de israel bajo ataque gracias por estar con nosotros 1300 people murdered and more than 3000 injured and the war with hamas continues we bring you first hand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived and all the records of the atrocities by hamas follow us as Israel fights terror from the south and north get the inside school on what's going on only on i-24 news is the most endangered wolf in the entire world and it the american red wolf is the only wolf that is only native to the united states and in that regards they should be a national treasure so it is a privilege to be able to provide their medical care and it's very important for people to be aware of the species and want to understand them so that they can be protected in the wild and not go extinct only coverage of the war here in israel now in its 22nd day and it calls out a glide in Tel Aviv israel is expanding their military activity in the Gaza Strip sending in tanks and ramping up airstrikes working the largest amount of activity in Gaza since the start of the war and killing the head of hamas's aerial operations meanwhile rockets from Gaza continue to target israel with threat alerts blaring through the south as the activity in the strip ramps up there's a new call from families of the 229 confirmed hostages to halt the impending ground operation with families demanding a meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu and israel's war cabinet meanwhile iran is threatening israel stating troops in lebanon are ready to pull the trigger if the adf begins its larger ground offensive in Gaza adf spokesman rear admiral daniel higari said troops are expanding activity in the Gaza Strip and that's where we want to begin now near the Gaza border where our correspondent jonathan or aga is standing by in southern israel and jonathan there has been a steady stream of rockets continuing to fire into southern israel throughout the morning yes we have heard of three separate incidents of red rocket red alert sirens in the area around the Gaza Strip in the communities around the Gaza Strip which are mostly empty we're also hearing a lot of israeli artillery really pounding the Gaza Strip same as last night maybe not as intense as was heard last night but but there's constant artillery towards the Gaza Strip clearly an optic in in the military operation in the past 20 hours or so and the idea says that that is exactly what they're continuing to do ramp up those those attacks at the Gaza Strip we're taking a look at some of those live visuals right now in Gaza right now you can see just these smoke really clouding the entire area there so jonathan what you're hearing it's happening we're seeing it right there i want to talk about some of the targets that the IDF has said that they have been targeting especially some of these Hamas commanders that they're really trying to pinpoint and locate absolutely the commanders and and let's remember they're not killed by the hundreds simply because they're hiding under the ground Hamas as as we've heard yesterday in one of the briefings by the IDF spokesperson has basically built an underground city second Gaza under the ground with the main headquarters being under the Shifa hospital the main hospital of the Gaza Strip Hamas using the Shifa hospital as one of its basically a place to shield itself knowing that Israeli forces will have trouble getting there because of the humanitarian crisis as such a thing will produce so so Hamas is no problem using schools using mosques using hospital using the entire Gaza population as its own shield they're hiding under the ground anyone that does it pops up is eventually killed jonathan the IDF is working to limit the communication however between some of these Hamas commanders Hamas terrorists even targeting some of the different networks cutting off communication how does that help in Israel's aims also in this operation it helps basically in creating confusion among Hamas terrorists they don't know where exactly the place where Israeli operations are taking place if there's a blackout and they cannot send forces to the area and Israel is especially working on these underground bunkers underground tunnels this is the place where from which Hamas is hoping that its terrorists will come up to the ground and face up with Israeli with Israeli soldiers that this is especially and these are especially the targets that Israel is looking for our correspondent jonathan rega reporting from the southern border with Gaza as we're taking a look at some of those live images in Gaza right now thank you for your coverage now as we were speaking to jonathan rega if he mentioned everything that the IDF is working from we actually heard from IDF spokesperson daniel higari earlier today about the latest developments 22 days into the war now in Israel we will continue to maintain the security of our forces while employing heavy fire from the air we operate against um it goes but we set for ourselves eliminating Hamas security on the borders and the goal of returning the kidnapped all of these together are part of their of our assessment and our advancement in the decision making by the chief of led by the chief of staff and the other commanders we will receive the right operational decisions when these goals are our campus while the idea of spokesperson daniel higari mentioned the main goal right now is focusing on the Gaza Strip we also know another threat that they're keeping an eye on is up north on the northern border with lebanon as well that's where our correspondent miric oliv is standing by right now mary we continue to hear about more IDF activity up up there near the northern border what can you tell us that's right now close from the past hour we've heard a number of different explosions originating from just behind me of course this area right behind me is the israel lebanon border you can see that mountain side on the opposite side that is lebanese territory so we heard a number of different explosions from this area but they did sound pretty distant now we do also know that the IDF is saying that it responded so air defense systems were activated in the region to intercept a missile that was fired at israeli an unmanned israeli aircraft in the sky saying that missile then targeted that missile and luckily there were no injuries from any of the crews on the ground or nor reports of injuries from shrapnel that could have caused from that explosion because we did hear the explosions which were quite far away from where we are we do know the IDF said it is returning fire and it is once again launching the source of where they believe these missiles were launched from this is something we've seen the IDF doing repeatedly over the past two weeks every time we have an incident across the border israelis saying it's then responding by trying to target those who are trying to harm israeli civilians and the soldiers and infrastructure on the ground here in northern israel and mary as you're speaking we're taking a look at some of those live images right now from from near where you are looking towards the lebanon border now all of this slights couples that we've seen on the northern border hezbollah i'm slightly getting involved but iran says once israel does step up its operations in the gaza strip hezbollah is ready to get even more involved and continue attacking israel that's absolutely right so the iranian foreign ministry last night saying that hezbollah is waiting with its finger on the trigger saying that it's very carefully watching what the idf is doing inside the gaza strip and that they are ready to retaliate if it deems necessary but this it really is a warning that we've heard over the past two weeks repeatedly coming out from the iranian side also coming out from these hezbollah or an iranian-backed proxies which are inside southern lebanon but the more worrisome development is also the role of other actors iranian-backed actors in the region who are now also increasing the frequency of attacks on us bases so it's not just israel which is being attacked a number of us bases at least 20 bases so far we haven't confirmed one attack last night but a rocky militia that it's linked to the iranians saying they did attack a us base in tanaf in syria so that's an area that straddles a syrian iraqi-jordan border and they said two explosive drones were launched in response to israel's operation inside gaza we so far do not have a response from the united states but it of course comes as us continues to beef up its security presence in the region setting troops heavy vehicles also the uss carrier the second us strike carrier which has been sent to the eastern ministry and just today now arriving in the mediterranean sea to try and back up and support and prepare for the eventuality that this could spiral out of control but right now diplomatic efforts are ongoing to try and prevent that from happening all of the western ally certainly coming together trying to support israel right now from some of those threats i'm curious mary as we continue to talk about just iran threatening israel saying it will get involved what's the sense on the ground right now and how are these communities reacting sorry nicole so over 42 communities in israel have been evacuated in the past two weeks earlier this week they want to announce an additional 12 communities that were going to be evacuated here if you go further past up in haria so again to these communities which are really right on the lebanese border within less than a kilometer range some of them so near the border and so near some of these terror cells that are firing into northern leban northern israel and many of them are evacuated i just spoke to a woman just a few moments ago she's lived in haria all her life she was here for the 2006 war between israel and hezbo and she says this time she's just simply had enough she said she's not going back to her house she's leaving the haria and she's not coming back until there's a final solution to this threat on israel's northern borders this is a situation for many residents here who have just become really sick and fed up of dealing with this situation most of the residents evacuate communities are now staying in guest sponsored so government-funded hotels or guest houses that they've been asked to evacuate to also staying just with family throughout the region so certainly there is high alert and a lot of tension from the residents who are remaining here but most of them have tried to go to safer parts of the country everyone's certainly keeping an eye on there that area as well mayor mcall of thank you for your coverage up on israel's northern border now i want to bring in my guests who are joining me right now i'm joined in studio by daniel shek former israeli ambassador to france and political commentator uh along with via zoom i'm joined by reserve colonel dr moshay alad former coordinator to palestinian authority on security issues for the idf and lecture at western galley academic college thank you both for joining us uh uh dr moshay i want to begin with you as we're seeing more of this activity ramping up in the gaza border the idf continuing to not only strike by the ground but also now sending in troops sending in tanks really preparing for what seems to be their larger ground operation that they continue to talk about well i think that the ground action has actually already begun it may look a little bit different to the enemy because he was he was expecting something else and he mentioned probably you know uh something else but sometimes the enemy's expectations uh do not align with our ambitions so if you're asking about the so-called the ground action it is there it looks different maybe in the next couple of days we'll see more and more troops on the ground troops entering in gaza but the one thing is very obvious there is a very good plan that they are moving along and maybe we'll see the next couple of days more and more uh hamas people killed or trapped or whatever would happen because this plan that they are moving now according to was prepared for many years so i guess that so far is going very well and does the idf continues to target some of those commanders in hamas we know how difficult it is because many of them are hiding underneath civilian infrastructure specifically the shifa hospital the shifa medical center in gaza city this pose is one of the most difficult tasks for the idf because as they say they want to eliminate hamas uh that means going into the underground bunker directly below that hospital oh yeah targeted killing is one of the most difficult issues because you have to be very careful not to hit uh uninvolved people so we knew that uh down there beneath uh shifa hospital there are i would say uh a full headquarter maybe few headquarters and in the past we didn't want to hit just in order not to touch any of those wounded or um you know doctors and staff inside but now we israel has already warned the people of shifa to evacuate because something will go is going to be there in any case the work of the intelligence together with the gsn the general security services in order to kill palestinian leaders i mean hamas leaders is good is giving very good fruit so far because it's a kind of a conjunction between intelligence good intelligence good work of the pilots and this brings some good targeted killing without touching any people around it might happen and it happened however we do not do that on purpose and this is the main difference between us and them dr mosher a lot i want you to stay with us right now um we're actually taking a look at some of these visuals from the the gaza strip huge plumes of smoke as israel continues with those massive airstrikes really ramping up activity in the gaza border uh i want to bring in my guests right now daniel schek in studio now as we're looking at just this ground operation continue continued activity even what we're looking at right now uh now what we're seeing also continued calls from the families of the hostages because this ground operation and as we see more activity they're worried that it definitely poses a risk to the 229 at least hostages that remain in the hands of the most terrorists correct um they have published a statement this morning uh stating roughly that this has been this had been the most difficult night for them uh they live in great concern uh because of the beginning of what looks like a more massive ground operation um and their concern is understandable since hamas doesn't hesitate to use their own citizens as human shields they definitely won't have any trouble using the hostages as human shields and i remind you hostages in this case goes from infants nine months old to elderly people 87 years old so they are very concerned and they i hear now that they are demanding uh to see the prime minister and to plead with him the case of their loved ones you know i think although understandably they have a one-track mind they are interested only in the well-being of their loved ones and everyone in israel can understand that they want to plead with the government which on its side has other concerns too it's not the only one i remind our viewers though that just yesterday there was a poll published about the israeli public there was a shift about two weeks ago the main concern was to destroy hamas and currently a majority of israelis feel that the number one priority is to safeguard and bring back the the hostages doesn't mean that you shouldn't do both but this is the state of mind of the israeli public currently well three weeks in it's interesting to see how it has changed but we have to remind everyone this is hamas's main goal they want to keep these sausages in exchange for more uh resources from israel in fact for statements more calls for humanitarian aid to come in uh we're continued to see that they're even urging some protesters around the era world to join in some of these protests to get humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip we're actually hearing from uh someone with the international red cross about just the necessity of some of this aid for the innocent palestinians fuel is essential to not only to keep the hospitals and healthcare centers operational fuel is required also to run bakeries to run uh water and wastewater pump stations that if they stop we will witness also an environmental crisis at a population level fuel is required to pump water in the households and to also get the water to the hundreds of thousands of families who are internally displaced who are staying in and and shelters without access to any essential services it's important also to restore power to to keep the essential infrastructure in Gaza operates people in Gaza lost communication with the outside world this is another challenge families do not find cannot find the the whereabouts of their beloved ones they're still as the health authorities indicated more than 1600 people under the rubble who are unaccounted for this fuel will also help the civil defense teams to reach them and try to save as many as possible that would be a spokesperson for the international red cross sorry for jumping in but whoever currently pleads in wants to plead in a credible manner for humanitarian aid for the Gazans must in parallel also speak about the humanitarian emergency of the 229 hostages who have medical needs who need access by the Red Cross need urgent medical care etc etc you can't have it just one way and then disregard the other exactly and as we're hearing from you know some of this spokesperson for the international Red Cross we also are hearing from the IDF who as the spokesperson said we need fuel we need we need resources to help people here in Gaza the IDF publishing just yesterday a phone call that stated clearly Hamas has enough fuel enough electricity to help all of its citizens but they're safeguarding it they're safeguarding at least a half a million leaders of fuel using it to help them fuel their underground bunkers and leaving their civilians without energy without power in many of these cases i'm curious dr. Moshe a lot as Israel has agreed now to allow some more humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip but what are the chances that that aid whether it be food water medicine just ends right back up into the hands of Hamas i guess that's what would bring more pressure in the case of the hostages would be the ground operation however if people will see that we are referring to send all this humanitarian aid to the southern part of Gaza they will definitely move that to there and they will prefer to have it there so this might also do some pressure on the Hamas people i mean the commanders that are down there very underground and waiting to see what's going on by the way they have no internet now i guess also the phone the phones will be also out of of any kind of use in the next couple of days so you'll see more and more pressure however what i would like to add you know war brings destruction the killing wounded and some of us may be also saddened by this but i must always say that you know it might happen it's hard not to remember the reason why it happened as mr shek said exactly sometimes people in the world forget forget the Israeli side it's not only the hostages why it happened why all these started people forgot that and we have to remind them all the time that there were about 1400 uh big teams that were killed women that were raped small kids that are still there people that they are beheaded like exactly like the isis and if we're not reminding the world this they might of course you know as it happened yesterday in the un they might forget about that so we have to put it the old all this time it should be in their minds why all these happened exactly it happened for a reason and that was the october 7th massacre that hamas took the surprise attack on israel you bring up a great point with the united nations the united nations general assembly voting to for israel to have a ceasefire against hamas however not even stating hamas in their resolution that they passed they don't mention it they don't condemn hamas they just call on israel to stop targeting gaza today is a day that will go down in infamy we have all witnessed that the un no longer holds even one ounce of legitimacy or relevance this organization was founded in the wake of the holocaust for the purpose of preventing atrocities yet the spectacle we just saw proves beyond a doubt that the un is committed sadly tragically not to preventing but ensuring further atrocities israel has the right to defend itself and the realization of this right is to ensure that such atrocities are never repeated the only way the only way to ensure this is the eradication of hamas's terror capabilities the only way yet this resolution does not even name hamas as if this war started on its own why are you defending murderers why are you defending terrorists that deliberately beheaded children and abducted baby babies what is going on here this must make each of you ask yourselves what the true aim was that was when this resolution was submitted now the united nations has a long-standing history of anti-israel rhetoric but uh daniel check i think it's interesting what dr moche a lot was talking about people seem to forget why exactly this started three weeks into the war and this was sparked for a reason that was because of brutal attacks by hamas the united nations not recognizing that at all well people might be forgetting as time goes by but that has nothing to do with the resolution that was adopted yesterday in the general assembly of the un they didn't forget they just prefer to disregard it it's the majority of member states uh are you know they're not interested in uh uh depicting a true and precise picture of the realities they have an agenda and that agenda uh doesn't include condemning hamas it doesn't include protecting israelis it doesn't include uh condemning hostage-taking massive hostage-taking of civilians they're all not interested in that uh from uh over 40 years of experience with that organization i have just one suggestion to make to people as infuriating as this may be when you read it just take a deep breath and remember it is meaningless i think that's a great point to bring up it is a non-binding resolution non-binding resolution no reason to follow it no it's just infuriating and it shows the hypocrisy in in many of these countries but you know luckily there are other channels for real diplomacy that has the ambition to actually resolve this situation and to actually help the hostages for example right and i think we do see that time and time again i want to quickly come back to dr. Moshe a lot because as we're talking about this calls for a ceasefire from israel i think it's important for people to realize what exactly that would mean for israel if they were to agree to this which they're not going to it will definitely disturb the plan to defeat uh hamas uh let me tell you there's indeed a difficult dilemma for the members of our security people our security establishment since the two announced uh goals were first the elimination of hamas and of course the release of the hostages and those two are definitely in conflict so it should be hoped that the security chiefs uh first of all prime minister and tanyao and gallant and guns and so on know this and will act wisely and with the required sensitivity because um it's very difficult to believe that that will be able to hold both of them in any case ceasefire now would definitely disturb idf it might probably run for a day or two but not no no more than that and we'll certainly be keeping an eye on that uh the reserve colonel uh dr moshe a lot along with daniel shek former israeli ambassador of france thank you so much for coming here giving your insight i do want to state that as we're talking about the united nations and their anti-israel sentiment we are still seeing so many signs of hope and people standing with israel among these difficult times as well just yesterday it's been the third shabbat since this horrific attack and you can see some of these images of people setting out major shabbat tables all throughout the world this specifically in new york cities setting that shabbat table and setting up chairs for all of those that are taken hostage the at least 229 remain in the hands of famas terrorists so people are setting out these reminders to remind people exactly why israel continues to fight all over the world you're seeing these signs of solidarity it truly is meaningful impactful as israel continues to fight this war against amos now 22 days since that initial attack on october 7th thank you for tuning in to this edition of by 24 news israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped help us we don't want to do we just don't know anything entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity esta semana news 24 israel bajo ataque news 24 en español trae el análisis y la información de los acontecimientos de la guerra espadas de hierro entrevistas exclusivas reportes desde la zona de guerra la reacción de los países hispano parlantes news 24 el único medio en español que te mantiene informado y conectado con la comunidad latina en israel news 24 únicamente en i-24 news my 24 news channel broadcasting from israel with dozens of correspondence throughout the world brings the truth from israel to hundreds of millions of people in scores of countries bringing israel's story to the world i-24 news channels hay frases que sabes desde donde viene de acá y el paquete copa cuando y recargas que ya sabes hacia dónde van en vía recargas internacionales altiza tu gente en rd accede a nuestra página web recargas punto altis punto com punto b o seleccionar recargas y digita el número al que deseas colocarle la recarga además ellos reciben el doble de balance en recargas de 8 dólares o más altis la red global de los dominicanos link coverage of the war here in israel now in its 22nd day under cold static live in tel Aviv israel is expanding their military activity in the gaza strip sending in tanks and ramping up airstrikes marking the largest amount of activity in gaza since the start of the war and killing the head of humas's aerial operations meanwhile rockets from gaza continue to target israel red alerts blaring through the south as activity in the strip ramps up there's a new call from families of the 229 confirmed hostages to halt the impending ground operation with families demanding a meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu and israel's war cabinet meanwhile iran is threatening israel stating troops in lebanon are ready to pull the trigger if the adf begins its larger ground offensive in gaza adf spokesman rear admiral daniel higaring said troops are expanding activity in the gaza strip and that's where we want to begin now near the gaza border where our correspondent jonathan or agave is standing by in southern israel and jonathan there has been a steady stream of rockets continuing to fire into southern israel throughout the morning yes we have heard of three separate incidents of red rocket red alert sirens in the area around the gaza strip in the communities around the gaza strip which are mostly empty we're also hearing a lot of the israeli artillery really pounding the gaza strip same as last night maybe not as intense as was heard last night but but there's constant artillery towards the gaza strip clearly an optic in in in the military operation in the past 20 hours or so and the idf says that that is exactly what they're continuing to do ramp up those those attacks at the gaza strip we're taking a look at some of those live visuals right now in gaza right now you can see just these smoke really clouding the entire area there so jonathan what you're hearing it's happening we're seeing it right there i want to talk about some of the targets that the idf has said that they have been targeting especially some of these hamas commanders that they're really trying to pinpoint and locate absolutely the commanders and and let's remember they're not killed by the hundreds simply because they're hiding under the ground hamas as as we've heard yesterday in in one of the briefings by the idf spokesperson has basically built an an underground city second gaza under the ground with the main headquarters being under the shefa hospital the main hospital of the gaza strip hamas using the shefa hospital as one of its basically a place to shield itself knowing that israeli forces will have trouble getting there because of the humanitarian crisis as such a thing will produce so so hamas is no problem using schools using mosques using hospital using the entire gaza population as its own shield they're hiding under the ground anyone that does pops up is eventually killed jonathan the idf is working to limit the communication however between some of these hamas commanders hamas terrorists even targeting some of the different networks cutting off communication how does that help in israel's aims also in this operation it helps basically in creating confusion among hamas terrorists if they don't know where exactly the place where israeli operations are taking place if there's a blackout and they cannot send forces to the area and israeli is especially working on these underground bunkers underground tunnels this is the place where from which hamas is is hoping that its terrorists will come up to the ground and and face up with israeli with israeli soldiers this is especially the these are especially the targets that israel is looking for are corresponding jonathan reggae reporting from the southern border with gaza as we're taking a look at some of those live images in gaza right now thank you for your coverage now as we were speaking to jonathan reggae if you mentioned everything that the idf is working from we actually heard from idf spokesperson daniel higari earlier today about the latest developments 22 days into the war now in israel we will continue to maintain the security of our forces while employing heavy fire from the air we operate against uh i mean goals that we set for ourselves eliminating hamas security on the borders and uh the goal of returning the kidnapped all of these together are part of the of our assessments and our advancement in the decision making by the chief of led by the chief of staff and the other commanders we will receive the right operational decisions when these goals are our compass well the idf spokesperson daniel higari mentioned the main goal right now is focusing on the gaza strip we also know another threat that they're keeping an eye on is up north on the northern border with lebanon as well that's where our correspondent miric olive is standing by right now mary we continue to hear about more idf activity uh up up there near the northern border what can you tell us that's right now close on the past hour we've heard a number of different explosions originating from just behind me of course this area right behind me is the israel lebanon border you can see that mountainside on the opposite side that is lebanese territory so we heard a number of different explosions from this area but they did sound pretty distant now we do also know that the idf is saying that it responded so air defense systems were activated in the region to intercept a missile that was fired at israeli an unmanned israeli aircraft in the sky saying that missile then targeted that missile and luckily there were no injuries from any of the crews on the ground or reports of injuries from shrapnel that could have caused from that explosion because we did hear the explosions which were quite far away from where we are we do know the idf said it is returning fire and it is once again launching the source of where they believe these missiles were launched from this is something we've seen the idf doing repeatedly over the past two weeks every time we have an incident across the border israelis saying it's then responding by trying to target those who are trying to harm israeli civilians and the soldiers and infrastructure on the ground here in northern israel and mary as you're speaking we're taking a look at some of those live images right now from from near where you are looking towards the lebanon border now all of this slights couples that we've seen on the northern border has a lot slightly getting involved but iran says once israel does step up its operations in the gaza strip hezbollah is ready to get even more involved in continue attacking israel that's absolutely right so the iranian foreign ministry last night saying that hezbollah is waiting with its finger on the trigger saying that it's very carefully watching what the idf is doing inside the gaza strip and that they are ready to retaliate if it deems necessary but this it really is a warning that we've heard over the past two weeks repeatedly coming out from the iranian side also coming out from these hezbollah or an iranian backed proxies which are inside southern lebanon but the more worrisome development is also the role of other actors iranian backed off actors in the region who are now also increasing the frequency of attacks on us bases so it's not just israel which is being attacked a number of us bases at least 20 bases so far we haven't confirmed one attack last night but iraqi militia that it's linked to the iranians saying they did attack a us base in tunaf in syria so that's an area that straddles the syrian iraqi jordan border and they said two explosive drones were launched in response to israel's operation inside gaza we so far do not have a response from the united states but it of course comes as us continues to beef up its security presence in the region setting troops heavy vehicles also the uss carrier the second us strike carry which has been said to the eastern mandatory and just today now arriving in the mediterranean sea to try and back up and support and prepare for the eventuality that this could spiral out of control but right now diplomatic efforts are ongoing to try and prevent that from happening all of the western ally certainly coming together trying to sport israel right now from some of those threats i'm curious mary as we continue to talk about just iran threatening israel saying it will get involved what's the sense on the ground right now and how are these communities reacting sorry to close so over 42 communities in israel have been evacuated in the past two weeks earlier this week they want to announce an additional 12 communities that were going to be evacuated here if you go further past up in haria so again to these communities which are really right on the lebanese border within less than a kilometer range some of them so near the border and so near some of these terror cells that are firing into northern leban northern israel and many of them are evacuated i just spoke to a woman just a few moments ago she's lived in naharia all her life she was here for the 2006 war between israel and hezbo and she says this time she's just simply had enough she said she's not going back to her house she's leaving naharia and she's not coming back until there's a final solution to this threat on israel's northern borders this is a situation for many residents here who have just become really sick and fed up of dealing this this situation most of the residents evacuate communities are now staying and guests sponsored so government-funded hotels or guest houses that they've been asked to evacuate to also staying just with family throughout the region so certainly there is high alert and a lot of tension from the residents who are remaining here but most of them have tried to go to safer parts of the country everyone's certainly keeping an eye on there that area as well mayor mccollough thank you for your coverage up on israel's northern border now i want to bring in my guests who are joining me right now i'm joined in studio by daniel shek former israeli ambassador to france and political commentator uh along with via zoom i'm joined by reserve colonel dr moshay alad former coordinator to palestinian authority on security issues for the idf and lecture at western galley academic college thank you both for joining us uh dr moshay i want to begin with you as we're seeing more of this activity ramping up in the gaza border the idf continuing to not only strike by the ground but also now sending in troops sending in tanks really preparing for what seems to be their larger ground operation that they continue to talk about well i think that the ground action has actually already begun it may look a little bit different to the enemy because he was he was expecting something else and he mentioned probably you know uh something else but sometimes the enemy's expectations uh do not align with our ambitions so if you're asking about the so-called the ground action it is there it looks different maybe in the next couple of days we'll see more and more troops on the ground troops entering in gaza but the one thing is very obvious there is a very good plan that they are moving along and uh maybe uh we'll see the next couple of days more and more uh how much people killed or trapped or whatever would happen because this plan that they are moving now according to was prepared for many years so i guess that so far it's going very well and does the idf continues to target some of those commanders in hamas we know how difficult it is because many of them are hiding underneath civilian infrastructure specifically the shefa hospital the shefa medical center in gaza city this poses one of the most difficult tasks for the idf because as they say they want to eliminate hamas uh that means going into the underground bunker directly below that hospital oh yeah targeted killing is one of the most difficult issues because you have to be very careful not to hit uh uninvolved people so we knew that uh down there beneath uh shefa hospital there are i would say uh a full headquarter maybe few headquarters and in the past we didn't want to hit just in order not to touch any of those wounded or um you know doctors and stuff inside but now we israel has already warned the people of shefa to evacuate because something will go is going to be there in any case the work of the intelligence together with the gsn the general security services in order to kill palestinian leaders i mean hamas leaders is is giving very good fruit so far because it's a kind of a conjunction between intelligence good intelligence good work of the pilots and this brings some good targeted killing without touching any people around it might happen and it happened however we do not do that on purpose and this is the main difference between us and them dr mosher a lot i want you to stay with us right now um we're actually taking a look at some of these visuals from the the gaza strip huge plumes of smoke as israel continues with those massive airstrikes really ramping up activity in the gaza border uh i want to bring in my guest right now daniel scheck in studio now as we're looking at just this ground operation continue continued activity even what we're looking at right now uh now what we're seeing also continued calls from the families of the hostages because this ground operation and as we see more activity they're worried that it definitely poses a risk to the 229 at least hostages that remain in the hands of the most terrorists correct um they have published statement this morning uh stating roughly that this has been this had been the most difficult night for them uh they live in great concern uh because of the beginning of what looks like a more massive ground operation um and their concern is understandable since chamas doesn't hesitate to use their own citizens as human shields they definitely won't have any trouble using the hostages as human shields and i remind you hostages in this case goes from infants nine months old to elderly people 87 years old so they are very concerned and they i hear now that they are demanding to see the prime minister and to plead with him the case of their loved ones um you know i think although understandably they have a one-track mind they are interested only in the well-being of their loved ones and everyone in israel can understand that they want to plead with the government which on its side has other concerns too it's not the only one i remind our viewers though that just yesterday there was a poll published about the israeli public there was a shift about two weeks ago the main concern was to destroy chamas and currently a majority of israelis feel that the number one priority is to safeguard and bring back the the hostages doesn't mean that you shouldn't do both but this is the state of mind of the israeli public currently well three weeks in it's interesting to see how it has changed but we have to remind everyone this is hamas's main goal they want to keep these hostages in exchange for more uh resources from israel in fact we're seeing more calls for humanitarian aid to come in uh we're continue to see that they're even urging some protesters around the Arab world to join in some of these protests to get humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip we're actually hearing from uh someone with the international red cross about just the necessity of some of this aid for the innocent Palestinians fuel is essential to not only to keep the hospitals and healthcare centers operational fuel is required also to run bakeries to run uh water and wastewater pump stations that if they stop we will witness also an environmental crisis at a population level fuel is required to pump water in the households and to also get the water to the hundreds of thousands of families who are internally displaced who are staying in and and shelters without access to any essential services it's important also to restore power to to keep the essential infrastructure in Gaza operates people in Gaza lost communication with the outside world this is another challenge families do not find cannot find the whereabouts of their beloved ones they're still as the health authorities indicated uh more than 1600 people under the rubble who are unaccounted for this fuel will also help disabled defense uh teams to reach them and try to save as many as possible that would be a spokesperson for the international red cross sorry for jumping in but whoever currently pleads in wants to plead in a credible manner for humanitarian aid for the Gazans must in parallel also speak about the humanitarian emergency of the 229 hostages who have medical needs who need access uh by the Red Cross need urgent medical uh care etc etc you can't have it just one way and then disregard the other exactly and as we're hearing from you know some of this spokesperson for the international red cross we also are hearing from the IDF who as the spokesperson said we need fuel we need we need resources to help people here in Gaza the IDF publishing just yesterday a phone call that stated clearly Hamas has enough fuel enough electricity to help all of its citizens but they're safeguarding it uh they're safeguarding at least a half a million liters of fuel using it to help them fuel their underground bunkers and leaving their civilians without energy without power uh in many of these cases I'm curious Dr. Moshe Alad uh as Israel has agreed now to allow some more humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip but what are the chances that that aid whether it be food water medicine just ends right back up into the hands of Hamas I guess that's what would bring more pressure in the case of the hostages would be uh the ground operation however if people will see that we are preferring to send all this humanitarian aid to the southern part of Gaza they will definitely move that to there and they will prefer to have it there so this might also do some pressure on the Hamas people I mean the commanders that are down there very underground and waiting to see what's going on by the way they have no internet now I guess also the phone the phones will be also out of of any kind of use in the next couple of days so you'll see more and more pressure however what I would like to add you know or brings destruction the killing wounded and some of us may be also saddened by this but I must always say that you know it might happen it's hard not to remember the reason why it happened as Mr. Shek said exactly sometimes people in the world forget forget the Israeli side it's not only the hostages why it happened why all these started people forgot that and we have to remind them all the time that there were about 1400 uh victims that were killed women that were raped small kids that are still there people that they are beheaded like exactly like ISIS and if we're not reminding the world is they might of course you know as it happened yesterday in the UN they might forget about that so we have to put the old all this time it should be in their minds why all this happened exactly it happened for a reason and that was the October 7th massacre that Hamas took the surprise attack on Israeli bring up a great point with the United Nations the United Nations General Assembly voting to for Israel to have a ceasefire against Hamas however not even stating Hamas in their resolution that they passed they don't mention it they don't condemn Hamas they just call on Israel to stop targeting Gaza today is a day that will go down in infamy we have all witnessed that the UN no longer holds even one ounce of legitimacy or relevance this organization was founded in the wake of the Holocaust for the purpose of preventing atrocities yet the spectacle we just saw proves beyond a doubt that the UN is committed sadly tragically not to preventing but ensuring further atrocities Israel has the right to defend itself and the realization of this right is to ensure that such atrocities are never repeated the only way the only way to ensure this is the eradication of Hamas's terror capabilities the only way yet this resolution does not even name Hamas as if this war started on its own why are you defending murderers why are you defending terrorists that deliberately beheaded children and abducted baby babies what is going on here this must make each of you ask yourselves what the true aim was that was when this resolution was submitted now the United Nations has a long-standing history of anti Israel rhetoric but uh Daniel check I think it's interesting what Dr. Moshe Elad was talking about people seem to forget why exactly this started three weeks into the war and this was sparked for a reason that was because of brutal attacks by Hamas the United Nations not recognizing that at all well people might be forgetting as time goes by but that has nothing to do with the resolution that was adopted yesterday in the general assembly of the UN they didn't forget they just prefer to disregard it it's the majority of member states are you know they're not interested in depicting a true and precise picture of the realities they have an agenda and that agenda doesn't include condemning Hamas it doesn't include protecting Israelis it doesn't include condemning hostage-taking massive hostage-taking of civilians they're all not interested in that from over 40 years of experience with that organization I have just one suggestion to make to people as infuriating as this may be when you read it just take a deep breath and remember it is meaningless I think that's a great point to bring up it is a non-binding resolution is no reason to follow it no it's just infuriating and it shows the hypocrisy in in many of these countries but you know luckily there are other channels for real diplomacy that has the ambition to actually resolve this situation and to actually help the hostages for example right and I think we do see that time and time again I want to quickly come back to Dr. Moshe Elad because as we're talking about this calls for a ceasefire from Israel I think it's important for people to realize what exactly that would mean for Israel if they were to agree to this which they're not going to it will definitely disturb the plan to defeat Hamas let me tell you there's indeed a difficult dilemma for the members of our security people a security establishment since the two announced goals where there's the elimination of Hamas and of course the release of the hostages and those two are definitely in conflict so it should be hoped that the security chiefs first of all prime minister Antonio and Gallant and guns and so on know this and will act wisely and with the required sensitivity because it's very difficult to believe there that we'll be able to hold both of them in any case ceasefire now would definitely disturb IDF it might probably run for a day or two but no no no more than that and we'll certainly be keeping an eye on that the reserve colonel Dr. Moshe Elad along with Daniel Shek former Israeli ambassador to France thank you so much for coming here giving your insight I do want to state that as we're talking about the united nations and their anti-israel sentiment we are still seeing so many signs of hope and people standing with Israel among these difficult times as well just yesterday it's been the third shabbat since this horrific attack and you can see some of these images of people setting out major shabbat tables all throughout the world this specifically in new york cities setting that shabbat table and setting up chairs for all of those that are taken hostage the at least 229 who remain in the hands of Hamas terrorists so people are setting out these reminders to remind people exactly why Israel continues to fight all over the world you're seeing these signs of solidarity it truly is meaningful impactful as Israel continues to fight this war against Hamas now 22 days since that initial attack on october 7th thank you for tuning into this edition of by 24 news 1300 people murdered and more than 3000 injured and the war with Hamas continues we bring you firsthand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived and all the records of the atrocities by Hamas follow us as israel fights terror from the south and north get the inside scoop on what's going on only on i-24 news special broadcast here on i-24 news we continue our ruling coverage day 22 of the war in israel the war and the fog of war renewed rocket fire from the Gaza Strip towards southern israel as we speak yet another barrage of rockets heading from the strip towards the israel southern communities and cities as the IDF is expending its activity combined aerial and ground operations killing the heads of Hamas's aerial and naval operations against the backdrop of a ridiculous un call for a ceasefire the idea of revealing further proof of what was known main Hamas headquarters are located under the chief hospital in Gaza city as Hamas is using the largest hospital in the strip as a human shield this very morning idea of spokesperson once again urging Palestinians in the northern part of the strip to move south where humanitarian centers are set up food water medicine all available but Hamas continues to prevent many from mobilizing there while stocking up on fuel and and continuing its terrorist operations the expense of civilians there here's the latest from the IDF spokesperson we will continue to maintain the security of our forces while employing heavy fire from the air we operate against goals that we set for ourselves eliminating Hamas security and the borders and goal of returning the kidnapped all of these together are part of their of our assessments and our advancement in the decision making by the chief of led by the chief of staff the relevant team and the other commanders we will receive the right operational decisions these goals our campus and we begin this broadcast up north let's cross now live to i-24 news correspond mary mccolliff with the i-24 news team they're on the ground mary uh iran is uh harshening or elevating its war of war saying troops in lebanon are ready to pull the trigger should israel begins a larger ground offensive in gaza but do we have any indication of what's going through hasan astralis mine at this point in time we really don't know at least we've heard a lot of warnings in the past couple weeks since this really began where we began to see attacks between hezbollah and israel across this border that you can see just behind me but so far at this point it stayed to mostly rhetoric and mostly limited to these small incursions or small cross border attacks but we do know that again as you said iran saying that hezbollah forces are ready with their finger on the trigger that's probably the most serious of the warnings we've seen but it also is calling them on to halt the ground operation the ground operation began hours ago now and so far we haven't really seen very much activity from hezbollah that's different than what we've seen in the past two weeks we continue to see them trying to launch anti-tank missiles trying to also target unmanned aerial israeli aircraft that happened just about an hour ago and then israel in turn responding with retaliatory strikes and just moments ago moments before we began speaking with you we heard successive numerous booms from just this hill behind me this is an area inside southern lebanon that's being shelled extremely heavily at the moment it seems it said have died down a little bit but we do know from sources inside lebanon saying there's heavy shelling in in the area of alma el shab which is just across the border from the israeli community of hanida of course we should mention all of the israeli communities on the northern israeli border have been evacuated especially hanida which is less than a kilometer away from that opposing village so we do continue to see the israeli forces on high alert saying they're ready to respond to any threat from hezbollah or iran if necessary and the or iran here is particularly important since the us is striking weapons and ammunition facilities in syria in response to attacks on american forces here in the region in iraq in syria by iranian-backed forces in the past week and it has a significant meaning to the rest or the continuation rather of the of the war here in israel on the northern front absolutely ellie and this is again this is something that we have seen over the past few years we've seen increasing attacks against us forces by iranian backs proxies in the region whether it's syria lebanon other places in the middle east very near israel's border but since october 7 since the beginning of this war there have been 19 attacks on us bases or us infrastructure stationed throughout the middle east and that was the first time we saw the us respond yesterday since then an iraqi group has also claimed responsibility for an attack by two explosive drones that was flown by the iranian backed group towards a us base we don't have any reports about injuries and we don't have any official confirmation from the us forces at the time about that attack but we do know of course is that the us is beefing up its security forces throughout the region another us air aircraft carrier just arriving in the region in the Mediterranean earlier today this is the uss eisenhower which of course is joining the uss ford both of these aircraft carriers and their accompanying strike teams have all been relocated received new deployments to the middle east and closer to israel to be prepared for any eventuality if this war does spiral out of control and i'm just not sure if you could hear that on my mic we just heard another one of those artillery shells from that area just right behind me so it is as i said ongoing yeah deceiving quiet if we can even use the term quiet at this point in time i-24 news correspond mary mccullough thank you very much for this much more from mary of course on her ex-account and here on i-24 news throughout the day and joining us now here in studio lieutenant colonel mr dronevita former commander of the special forces of the idf thank you very much lieutenant colonel of ital before we head down south perhaps the main arena as mary just mentioned the uss eisenhower arriving here in the mediterranean and among the different explanations if you will for why we haven't seen a vast extensive ground operation in the strip so far was was this the american desire to have its deployment here in the region fully intact before anything goes ahead this is true this was one of the consideration of course the hostages dilemma also there are many considerations that the idf had to take into account also we had to stabilize our forces to gain the competency again it's not an easy thing after the terrible setback we had and of course what we did i think very good in the north to this stabilizing the border i mean the others exchanged but we are there the exchanges are now limited but we allow us to hit his ballah when we feel they cross some lines so waiting there the deterrence of the american carriers in terms of the the north the syria the northern border the iranian involvement is important and now we have to put our eyes on the south on the south and we had this very important ground incursion last night to the to those moments right and still one another point when it comes to the northern front before we again talk about the the main active scene as we put it nowadays we we have seen those poking and provoking and the term deterrence obviously in the aftermath of october 7th this should be used very carefully and yet if in the earlier days we were talking about a potential mistake that that could ignite ignite the scene here now the rhetoric seems to be changing not a mistake but rather an intention of one of the sides to exactly i think what we in the beginning there were talks there were like israel voices talking about pre-emptive strike in the north and border it was a mistake i think now it's i think it's a proven mistake there's no element in surprise we should not have taken it we had to stabilize the border and we had to show to the hezbollah that we react i think like 50 or more hezbollah soldiers got killed in those exchange and we had also our casualties but not in this magnitude we evacuated the citizen we are ready and we are ready for every either miscalculation or a decision made by nasa al nasa ala the common wisdom i i rather not use this term common use them but the common wisdom now that is not there's no nothing is common and nothing is common exactly exactly a very much right so we are very careful and ready to escalate into a full blown hit on hezbollah once some threshold is crossed so this is the northern scenario right so let's do refocus our conversation as to what's happening down south because we you know let me let me phrase it that way i'll attend kernel avital what we're saying this morning and overnight this is not the ground operation the grand ground operation we're talking about but but rather those in and out that are achieving what exactly as as much as we can say first of all we always declare it's not the ground the the major ground invasion the question what how does a major ground invasion would look like in the end but what we achieve first of all is taking positioning hitting we had tens of Hamas commander we had two leaders of the of Hamas that the aerial defense the aerial leader and the naval commander leader so this is a those are important achievements and then also i want to say that we need this competency of entering crossing the border to attack in positioning the new soldiers the new officers they don't know the terrain they know the terrain better this closing getting gathering intelligence i'm sure there's also covert operation that we know nothing about a lot of things is under under the surface the main dilemma the hostages where are they in what localities and this would go into our consideration in terms of this great invasion great incursion of great maneuvering that we are considering what talking about yes and and before we continue to talk about the hostage element here that some are suggesting that perhaps if the notion for the time being was that as long as as the time progresses it plays against the objective of releasing the hostages now we're hearing different voices that perhaps it is actually working in the benefit of israel but let's do go back to the ground and across now to our 24 news senior defense correspondent jonathan reggae in southern israel so jonathan we were just talking here in studio about those troops and tanks that are getting in the strip what does it mean and obviously as we've just discussed this is not the ground operation itself but we are seeing those ramped up airstrikes and those targeted assassinations try to map out for us what we're seeing now on the ground so first of all ellie we're hearing heavy artillery throughout the morning and even perhaps a little more intensifying in the past hour or so and the idea is not giving a lot of information but but the notion is that it's not the ground invasion but sort of a the ground invasion before the ground invasion let's define it this way it's not the army going all in but trying to clear out a portion of the gaza strip at the northern part of the gaza strip and the very interesting point that you brought brought up and maybe you could hear the the artillery now pounding right next to us the question of the hostages and what is better to try to secure the release is it refraining from a a big ground maneuver or going on with it i think the notion in the army is option number two going on with the ground invasion because we know that the hostages are perhaps the greatest asset maybe even the only asset that hamas has at this time and as long as israel does not invade the gaza they they feel that they can they have time and they can play with it and manipulate israel israel with this issue which is of course the hamas is very good at playing psychological games with a very sensitive israeli society and as long as israel is not invading hamasa is allowing itself to to demand very high prices which israel is not willing to accept all this i hope you're hearing the all the explosions around us and the notion is that the ground invasion is sort of a pressure on hamas and we're going in if we're not going to pay the very high prices that you're asking if you want to have any kind of price for the hostages if you want israel to pay anything do it now because if you don't we will come in with all our forces we know that the hamas in qatar in egypt even perhaps the united states have tried to to delay or postpone some kind of a ground maneuver israel is perhaps a signaling in the past 24 hours the time is up right if we need to quote unquote give credit to the iranians or to hamas is that they're they they identified israel's moral compass as a weak point and yet did not take into consideration that this very same compass can turn into the strength the point of strength and in this respect jonathan it is also important to perhaps refer to the idea of spokesperson revealing what was known here for a long while and yet to the international community these proofs are are essential that one of the main headquarters of hamas is under the chief of hospital the biggest hospital in the strip the strip using once again civilians that are humanitarian alleged humanitarian causes that too as human shields no other way to put it and this joins an interesting report by the new rick times today that hamas was able to store up fuel and water and food and all it needs to maintain its terrorist operations and enough for four months of fighting so this connects to the to the hail mary calls of the humanitarian state in the strip what do you make of it how long does israel know that there's some kind of a compound hospital that was released from from hamas prison more than 12 years ago that there was a thought in israel that at least for some time he was held under the shefa hospital in some hamas compound meaning this exists for about 15 years or so at least and i don't think anyone in israel is surprised the international community may be ease i think we learned some very sad things about the international community and the way it views hamas over the past three weeks they may have been surprised we were not and hamas uses this we know that hamas is using the civilian population in gaza as human shields just as ruthless and evil and terrible as they were to the israeli population they can be to their local population that's the kind of i don't even know if to describe them as human beings but that's the kind of subhumans that they are and and and yes you know we speak of there's constant call again from the a bit strange international community saying about the human catastrophe in gaza the lack of water the lack of fuel the lack of electricity there's all of it all of it and in abundance just get it from hamas but hamas keeps it for itself and letting the civilian population rot and die and or at least let them mobilize down south yeah or mobilize down south where humanitarian camps are being set up and there they can find all they they need uh until this campaign is uh is over i-24 news senior defense correspondent jonathan reggae thank you very much for this much more from jonathan of course in the i-24 news team later on in the day uh and speaking to that point exactly um when it comes to the human humanitarian state of the strip let's take a listen to um the international spokesperson of the committee of the red cross in gaza fuel is essential to not only to keep the hospitals and healthcare centers operational fuel is required also to run bakeries to run uh water and wastewater pump stations that uh if they stop we will witness also an environmental crisis at a population level fuel is required to pump water in the households and to also get the water to be hundreds of thousands of families who are internally displaced who are staying in and and shelters without access to any essential services it's important also to restore power to um to keep the essential infrastructure in gaza operates in gaza lost communication with the outside world this is another challenge families do not find cannot find the whereabouts of their beloved ones they're still as the health authorities indicated uh more than 1,600 people under the rubble who are unaccounted for this fuel will also help disabled defense uh teams to reach them and try to save as many as possible and uh it goes without saying unfortunately that all uh attempts to get uh sign of life uh any humanitarian aid to the uh to over 229 israeli hostage still being uh uh held captive in the gaza strip by vile homesteaders remained unanswered back in studio here with the lieutenant colonel doron avital um lieutenant colonel avital earlier in the broadcast we've been discussing and perhaps this is a positive thing that those notions that are assessed and reassessed and thought over again and again if there was a notion that um the two objectives of the of the of the war bringing back the hostages and eliminating hamas cannot be achieved at the same time or cannot be achieved both through a ground operation it seems that again in the fog of war the um this sense of ambiguity at this point in time it might be challenge it's a challenge i think it's a necessity right now because there was no way to stop the the fighting with hamas for an op and open a window that has no limit and wait for some miracle that didn't seem to happen and israel was weighing it for a few days or so so in the meantime keeping the pressure in terms of the ground incursion is important of course involving special forces and if we have intelligence and we cannot negotiate in some locality when we know hostages are there this would be excellent and we have a very good officer general appointed to this mission so this is the game right now and i think the ground invasion we'll see as as the as the spokesman of the idea says about the next stage we don't the next stage might involve more ground incursion until we got a better picture and enough pressure on hamas either to force them to a deal or to go in full in and try to rescue the hostages and kill the and in this respect the american component here obviously plays a key pivotal a role and we do understand that according to american officials and again we need to take everything with a grain of salt when it comes to intelligence they're saying to the american president that iran so far is deterred in terms of escalating the situation but but how how reliable that information is at a point in time where we're seeing the true clear intentions of iran without it being pinpointed as the arch terrorist the architecture of this campaign i think in the future we'll have to investigate exactly in what fashion was the role the actual role of iran in this we know is it only in retrospect or no we know financially we know backing but whether they were notified in advance it's not it's not fully clear for sure they are in they they're trying to orchestra a long campaign that in the end undermine israeli society in the israeli state but and they have the patience and they run is not going to pay an immediate price that's my question but yeah but the question is you know this is this event in a long campaign who knows what's the next event who knows if there's no real campaign with hezbollah who knows if campaign with hezbollah uh erupts whether we don't have the the syrian front with the shia militia that's completely a backup by iran also participating so we have a very big theater here and i think the americans are very much worried about this theater and they're looking at all and get trying to de-escalate or to limit it to the gaza to the gaza front i'm not sure it's possible in the long term but it might be it takes when i say long term it's months and years yeah the the the concept of time is changing as well and and just as an update in the last few minutes a second incident in the northern border today the rdf is attacking heading rather another squad that attempted to launch an anti-tank missile in the same area that mary mccollif is is standing by there it is an unfair question um and and i'm not sure what is the ability to to to provide an answer and yet starting the fourth week of the war um in a few hours what are we to see down south down south what are the uh more immediate objectives of of of israel i've seen the objectives were stated and then we have to uh we have to break in hamas all its military capacities we we hit even in disincursion we hit many tunnels and so on the whole military infrastructure cannot be cannot stay in hama cannot stay in the gaza strip after we end this war but we have to rescue the hostages in whatever fashion diplomatic militarily creating pressure holding on it's really a back and forth campaign that we have to handle in a very wise movement but we have to show competency we have to show that we all the time kept hamas under pressure how would it end there's no telling but i think the objectives are clearly stated and i hope the tension between the two objectives even in the israeli public because you see the outcry of the hostage family and it's of course understood and they're saying clearly that they will escalate again if those terms are applicable um uh they're they're they're plea uh to get back your love something in in uh in in such uncertainty you you work with what you have in your hand by necessity so if you there's an open there's a window that opens up you use it that's the way you do back and forth but you have to keep the military pressure on in terms of also grounding kerson and that's what we do and speaking of of uncertainty um and going back to the american uh involvement here and the desire on behalf of washington to get a clear or a better sense of the day after even though it it it is still a long way ahead my question to lieutenant colonel avatara and obviously the american trauma in iraq and afghanistan with the lack of a clear exit point or an end goal is evident and yet at this in this situation is an end goal really crucial to the to the operations underground now we cannot think about it later we should we can but now the objective is very clear you have an enemy under your aims and you have to go forward this is what we do okay of course had we taken the whole gaza strip then we would have to re to rethink what do we do next but i think it's important also for us the israelis to understand that these are lines around us okay the u.s europe nato and also our allies in the middle east and i would put egypt jordan even saudi arabia the pa if it comes back to its to its forces would demand after this ends some kind of resolution a new resolution in the middle east we won't be able to avoid it so i'm saying now we're at war we have to complete it but afterwards we should expect some serious attempt from our allies to work with us to some kind of no resolution in the middle east and this is perhaps uh the silver lining in this uh i mean this darkness that the clear line that is being drawn uh this renewed version of the axis of evil also means that the powers of light will have to align themselves together and uh i don't know normalization between israel and saudi arabia sounds like uh like a solid response to iran's attempts to destabilize the region exactly and we have to understand that the hamas move was in some sense in the context of the initiative the saudi initiative and attempt to intercept it and now so it would go through shedding a lot of blood but in the end maybe this would be the direction long days ahead but uh good is on its way to uh elizabeth carnala doron of ital thank you very much for joining us on this broadcast we appreciate your time and your insight as per always thank you uh and we want to conclude this broadcast uh with what is bleeding inside all of us as we speak at least 229 israeli hostages still being held captive in the goddess by vile hamas terrorist their families demanding to meet his really prime minister benjamin teniao immediately while the relentless global campaign to release them continues in full swing as well you're seeing now on your screens a massive 200 meters poster saying never again yes again never again it was uh hung this weekend uh at the levganin senior's facility in natanya focusing on the elderly that are being held by hamas among them holocaust survivors what if it was your own grandmother and grandfathers well these are our grandmothers and grandfathers and we will uh the nation's heart will will not stop beating now will not be beating again rather until they're all back home this is it from us now we'll be back at the top of the hour thank you for watching over 1300 people murdered and more than 3000 injured and the war with hamas continues we bring you firsthand testimonies from the front lines from those who survived and all the records of the atrocities by hamas follow us 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the heads of hamas's aerial and naval operations against the backdrop of a ridiculous un call for a ceasefire the idf revealing further proof of what was known main hamas headquarters are located under the xifa hospital in gaza city as hamas is using the largest hospital in the strip as a human shield this very morning idf spokesperson once again urging palestinians in the northern part of the strip to move south where humanitarian centers are set up food water medicine all available but hamas continues to prevent many from mobilizing there while stocking up on fuel and continuing its terrorist operations the expense of civilians there here's the latest uh from the idf spokesperson we will continue to maintain the security of our forces while employing heavy fire from the air we operate against uh i mean goals that we set for ourselves eliminating hamas security on the borders and uh the goal of returning the all of these together are part of the of our assessments and our advancement in the decision making by the chief of led by the chief of staff and the other commanders we will receive the right operational decisions when these goals are our compass and we begin this broadcast up north let's cross now live to our 24 news correspondent mary mccolliff with the our 24 news team there on the ground mary uh iran is uh harshening or elevating its war of war saying troops in lebanon are ready to pull the trigger should israel begins a larger ground defensive in gaza but do we have any indication of what's going through hasan astralis mine at this point in time we really don't know ellie we've heard a lot of warnings in the past couple weeks since this really began where we began to see attacks between hezbollah and israel across this border that you can see just behind me but so far at this point it stayed to mostly rhetoric and mostly limited to these small incursions or small cross border attacks but we do know that again as you said iran saying that hezbollah forces are ready with their finger on the trigger that's probably the most serious of the warnings we've seen but it also is calling them on to halt the ground operation the ground operation began hours ago now and so far we haven't really seen very much activity from hezbollah that's different than what we've seen in the past two weeks we continue to see them trying to launch anti-tank missiles trying to also target unmanned aerial israeli aircraft that happened just about an hour ago and then israel in turn responding with retaliatory strikes and just moments ago moments before we began speaking with you we heard successive numerous booms from just this hill behind me this is an area inside southern lebanon that's being shelled extremely heavily at the moment it seems it said have died down a little bit but we do know from sources inside lebanon saying there's heavy shelling in in the area of alma el shab which is just across the border from the israeli community of hanita of course we should mention all of the israeli communities on the northern israeli border have been evacuated especially hanita which is less than a kilometer away from that opposing village so we do continue to see the israeli forces on high alert saying they're ready to respond to any threat from hezbollah or iran if necessary and the or iran here is particularly important since the u.s. is striking weapons and ammunition facilities in syria in response to attacks on american forces here in the region in iraq in syria by iranian-backed forces in the past week and it has a significant meaning to the rest or the continuation rather of the of the war here in israel on the northern front absolutely ellie and this is again this is something that we have seen over the past few years we've seen increasing attacks against us forces by iranian-backed proxies in the region whether it's syria lebanon other places in the middle east very near israel's border but since october 7 since the beginning of this war there have been 19 attacks on us bases or us infrastructure stationed throughout the middle east and that was the first time we saw the us respond yesterday since then an iraqi group has also claimed responsibility for an attack by two explosive drones that was flown by the iranian-backed group towards a us base we don't have any reports about injuries and we don't have any official confirmation from the us forces at the time about that attack what we do know of course is that the us is beefing up its security forces throughout the region another us air aircraft carrier just arriving in the region in the Mediterranean earlier today this is the uss eisenhower which of course is joining the uss ford both of these aircraft carriers and their accompanying strike teams have all been relocated received new deployments to the middle east and closer to israel to be prepared for any eventuality if this war does spiral out of control and i just i'm not sure if you could hear that on my mic we just heard another one of those artillery shells from that area just right behind me so it is as i said ongoing yeah deceiving quiet if we can even use the term quiet at this point in time i-24 news correspond mary mccullough thank you very much for this much more from mary of course on her ex-account and here on i-24 news throughout the day and joining us now here in studio lieutenant colonel mister donovital former commander of the special forces of the idf thank you very much lieutenant colonel of it all before we um heads down south perhaps the main arena as mary just mentioned uh the uss eisenhower arriving here in the Mediterranean and among the different explanations if you will for why we haven't seen um a vast extensive ground operation in the strip so far was was was this the the american um uh desire to have its uh um uh deployment here in the region fully intact before anything uh goes ahead this is true this was one of the consideration of course the hostages dilemma also there are many considerations that the idf had to take into account also we had to stabilize our forces to gain the competency again it's not an easy thing after the terrible setback we had and of course what we did i think uh very good in the north this stabilizing the border i mean the others exchanged but we are there the exchanges are now limited but we allow ourselves to hit hezbollah when we feel they cross some lines so waiting there the deterrence of the american carriers in terms of the the nor the syria the northern border the iranian involvement is important and now we have to put our eyes on the on the south and where this very important ground incursion last night to the to those moments right and still one another point when it comes to the northern front before we again uh um i talk about the the main um uh active scene as we put it nowadays um we we have seen those uh poking and provoking and the term deterrence obviously in the aftermath of october 7th should be used very carefully uh and yet um if in the earlier days we were talking about a potential mistake that that could uh ignite ignite the scene here now the rhetoric seems to be changing not a mistake but rather an intention of one of the sides to exact i think what we in the beginning there were talks they were like israel voices talking about pre-emptive strike in the northern border it was a mistake i think now it's i think it's a proven mistake there's no element in surprise we should not have taken it we had to stabilize the border and we had to show to the hezbollah that we react i think like 50 or more hezbollah soldiers got killed in those exchange and we had also our casualties but not in this magnitude we evacuated the citizen we are ready and we are ready for every either miscalculation or a decision made by nasa ala the common wisdom i i rather not use this term common use them but the common wisdom now that is not there's no nothing is common and nothing is common exactly exactly very much right so we are very careful and ready to escalate into a full blown hit on hezbollah once some threshold is crossed so this is the northern scenario right so uh let's do um refocus our conversation as to what's happening down south because we you know let me let me phrase it that way uh i'll attend colonel avital what we're saying this morning and overnight this is not the ground operation the grand ground operation we're talking about but but rather those in and out that are um achieving what exactly as as much as we can say first of all we always declare it's not the ground the the major ground invasion the question what how does a major ground invasion would look like in the end but what we achieve first of all is taking positioning hitting we had tens of hamas the commander we hit two leaders of the of hamas that the aerial defense the aerial leader and the naval commander leader so this is uh those are important achievements and then also i want to say that we need this competency of entering crossing the border to taking positioning the new soldiers the new officers they don't know the terrain they know the terrain better this closing getting gathering intelligence i'm i'm sure there's also covert operation that we know nothing about a lot of things is under under the surface the main dilemma the hostages where are they in what localities and this would go into our consideration in terms of this great invasion great incursion of great maneuvering that we are considering or talking about yes and and before we continue to talk about the hostage element here that some are suggesting that perhaps if the notion for the time being was that as long as as the time progresses it plays against the objective of releasing the hostages now we're hearing different voices that perhaps it is actually working in the benefit of israel but let's do um go back to the ground and across now to our 24 news senior um defense correspondent jonathan reggae in southern israel so jonathan we were just talking here in studio about those troops and tanks that are getting in the strip uh what does it mean and um obviously as we've just uh uh discussed this is not the ground operation itself but we are seeing uh those ramped up airstrikes and those targeted assassinations try to map out for us what we're seeing now on the ground so first of all uh early we're hearing a heavy artillery throughout the morning and even perhaps a little more intensifying in the past hour or so and the idea is not giving a lot of information but but the notion is that it's not the ground invasion but sort of a the ground invasion before the ground invasion let's let's uh define it this way it's not the army going all in but trying to clear out a portion of the gaza strip uh the northern part of the gaza strip and the very interesting point that you brought brought up and maybe you could hear the the artillery now we're pounding right next to us uh the question of the hostages and what is better to try to secure the release is it refraining from a a big ground maneuver or going on with it i think the notion in the army is option number two going on with the ground invasion because we know that uh um uh that the hostages are perhaps the greatest asset maybe even the only asset that Hamas has at this time and as long as Israel does not invade the gaza they feel that they can they have time and they can play with it and manipulate Israel Israel with this issue which is of course the Hamas is very good at playing psychological games with a very sensitive Israeli society and as long as Israel is not invading Hamas is allowing itself to to demand very high prices which Israel is not willing to accept all this i hope you're hearing that all the explosions around us and and the notion is that the ground invasion is sort of a pressure on Hamas and we're going in if we're not going to pay the very high prices that you're asking if you want to have any kind of price for the hostages if you want Israel to pay anything do it now because if you don't we will come in with all our forces we know that the Hamas and Qatar and Egypt even perhaps the united states have tried to delay or postpone some kind of a ground maneuver Israel is perhaps a signaling in the past 24 hours the time is up right if if we need to quote unquote give credit to the Iranians or to Hamas is that there they they identified Israel's moral compass as a weak point and yet did not take into consideration that this very same compass can turn into the strength the point of strength and in this respect Jonathan it is also important to perhaps refer to the idea of spokesperson revealing what was known here for a long while and yet to the international community these proofs are essential that one of the main headquarters of Hamas is under the chief of hospital the biggest hospital in the strip the strip using once again civilians and a humanitarian alleged humanitarian causes that to as human shield shields no other way to put it and this joins an interesting report by the New York Times today that Hamas was able to store up fuel and water and food and all it needs to maintain its terrorist operations and enough for four months of fighting so this connects to the to the Hail Mary calls of the humanitarian state in the strip what do you make of it how long does Israel know that there's some kind of a compound under the shefa hospital gilat shalit that was released from from Hamas prison more than 12 years ago there was a thought in Israel that at least for some time he was held under the shefa hospital in some Hamas compound meaning this exists for about 15 years or so at least and I don't think anyone in Israel is surprised the international community may be ease I think we learned some very sad things about the international community and the way it views Hamas over the past three weeks they may have been surprised we were not and Hamas uses this we know that Hamas is using the civilian population in Gaza as human shields just as ruthless and evil and terrible as they were to the Israeli population they can be to their local population that's the kind of I don't even know if to describe them as human beings but that's the kind of subhumans that they are and and and and yes you know we speak of there's constant call again from the a bit strange international community saying about the human catastrophe in Gaza the lack of water the lack of fuel the lack of electricity there's all of it all of it and in abundance just get it from Hamas but Hamas keeps it for itself and letting the civilian population rot and die and or at least let them mobilize down south yeah or mobilize down south where humanitarian camps are being set up and there they can find all they they need uh until this campaign is uh is over i-24 news senior defense correspondent Jonathan uh regiff thank you very much for this much more from Jonathan of course in the i-24 news team later on in the day uh and speaking to that point exactly um when it comes to the human humanitarian state of the political listener to the international spokesperson of the committee of the red cross in Gaza fuel is essential to not only to keep the hospitals and healthcare centers operational fuel is required also to run bakeries to run uh water and wastewater pump stations that uh if they stop we will witness also an environmental crisis at a population level fuel is required to pump water in the households and to also get the water to the hundreds of thousands of families who are internally displaced who are staying in and and shelters without access to any essential services it's important also to restore power to to keep the essential infrastructure in Gaza operates people in Gaza lost communication with the outside world this is another challenge families do not find cannot find the the whereabouts of their beloved ones they're still as the health authorities indicated uh more than 1600 people under the rubble who are unaccounted for this fuel will also help the civil defense uh teams to reach them and try to save as many as possible and uh it goes without saying uh unfortunately that all uh attempts to get uh sign of life uh and humanitarian aid to the uh two over 229 Israeli hostage still being uh uh held captive in the Gaza strip by vile homestayers remained unanswered back in studio here with the lieutenant colonel Doron Avital um lieutenant colonel Avital earlier in the broadcast we've been discussing and perhaps this is a positive thing that those notions that are assessed and reassessed and thought over again and again if there was a notion that um the two objectives of the of the of the war bringing back the hostages and eliminating Hamas cannot be achieved at the same time or cannot be achieved both through a ground operation it seems that again in the fog of war this sense of ambiguity this point in time it might be challenged it's a challenge I think it's a necessity right now because there was nowhere to stop the the fighting with Hamas for an open a window that has no limit and wait for some miracle that didn't seem to happen and Israel was weighing it for a few days or so so in the meantime keeping the pressure in terms of the ground incursion is important of course involving special forces and if we have intelligence and we cannot negotiate in some locality when we know hostages are there this would be excellent and we have a very good officer general appointed to this mission and so this is the game right now and I think the ground invasion we'll see as as the as the spokesman of the IDF says about the next stage we don't the next stage might involve more ground incursion until we got a better picture and enough pressure on Hamas either to force them to a deal or to go in full in and try to rescue the hostages and kill the Hamas and in disrespect the American component here obviously plays a key pivotal role and we do understand that according to American officials and again we need to take everything with a grain of salt when it comes to intelligence they're saying to the American president that Iran so far is deterred in terms of escalating the situation but but how how reliable that information is at a point in time where we're seeing the true clear intentions of Iran without it being pinpointed as the arch terrorist the architecture of this campaign I think in the in the future we'll have to investigate exactly in what fashion was the role the actual role of Iran in this we know is it only in retrospect or we know financially we know backing but whether they were notified in advance it's not it's not fully clear for sure they are in they're trying to orchestrate a long campaign that in the end undermine Israeli society in the Israeli state but they and they have the patience and they run is not going to pay an immediate price that's my question militarily but yeah but the question is you know this is this event in a long campaign who knows what's the next event who knows if there's no real campaign who knows if Kopenhub Hizballah erupts whether we don't have the the Syrian front with the Shia militia that's completely abecked up by Iran also participating so we have a very big theater here and I think the Americans are very much worried about this theater and they're looking at all angle trying to de-escalate or to limit it to the Gaza to the Gaza front I'm not sure it's possible in the long term but it might be it takes when I say long term it's months and years yeah the the the concept of time is changing as well and and just as an update in the last few minutes a second incident in the northern border today the IDF is attacking heading rather another squad that attempted to launch an anti-tank missile in the same area that Mary McAuliffe is is standing by there it is an unfair question and and I'm not sure what is the ability to to to provide an answer and yet starting the fourth week of the war in a few hours what are we to see down south down south what are the more immediate objectives of of of Israel I think the objectives were stated and we have to we have to break in Hamas all its military capacities we we hit even in this incursion we hit many tunnels and so on the whole military infrastructure cannot be cannot stay in Hamas cannot stay in the Gaza strip after we end this war but we have to rescue the hostages in whatever fashion diplomatic militarily creating pressure holding on it's really a back-and-forth campaign that we have to handle in a very wise moment but we have to show competency we have to show that we all the time keep Hamas under pressure how would it end there's no telling but I think the objectives are clearly stated and I hope the tension between the two objectives even in the Israeli public because you see the outcry of the hostage family and it's of course understood and they're saying clearly that they will escalate again if those terms are applicable they're they're they're plea to get back their love so I think in in in when in such uncertainty you you work with what you have in your hand by necessity so if you there's an open there's a window that opens up you use it then that's the way you do back and forth but you have to keep the military pressure on in terms of also ground incursion and that's what we do and speaking of uncertainty and going back to the American involvement here and the desire on behalf of Washington to get a clear or a better sense of the day after even though it it is still a long way ahead my question to you lieutenant colonel avatar and obviously that the American trauma in Iraq in Afghanistan with the lack of a clear exit point or an end goal is evident and yet at this in this situation is an end goal really crucial to the operations on the ground now can we cannot think about it later we should we can but now the objective is very clear you have an enemy under your aims and you have to go forward this is what we do okay of course had we taken the whole Gaza Strip then we would have to rethink what do we do next but I think it's important also for us the Israelis to understand that this aligns around us okay the US Europe NATO and also our allies in the Middle East and I would put Egypt Jordan even Saudi Arabia the PA if it comes back to its to its forces would demand after this ends some kind of resolution a new resolution in the Middle East we won't be able to avoid it so I'm saying now we're at war we have to complete it but afterwards we should expect some serious attempt from our allies to work with us to some kind of no resolution in the Middle East and this is perhaps the silver lining in this this darkness that the clear line that is being drawn this renewed version of the axis of evil also means that the powers of light will have to align themselves together and normalization between Israel and Saudi Arabia sounds like like a solid response to Iran's attempts to destabilize the region exactly and we have to understand that the Hamas move was in some sense in the context of the initiative the Saudi initiative and attempt to intercept it and now so it would go through shedding a lot of blood but in the end maybe this would be the direction long days ahead but good is on its way to Alexander Karnola the long the run of it all thank you very much for joining us on this broadcast we appreciate your time and your insight as per always thank you and we want to conclude this broadcast with what is bleeding inside all of us as we speak at least 229 Israeli hostages still being held captive in the Gaza Strip by vile Hamas terrorist their families demanding to meet Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Tanyao immediately while their relentless global campaign to release them continues in full swing as well you're seeing now on your screens a massive 200 meters poster saying never again yes again never again it was hung this weekend at the Levganim Seniors Facility in Tanya focusing on the elderly that are being held by Hamas among them Holocaust survivors what if it was your own grandmother and grandfather's well these are our grandmothers and grandfathers and we will the nation's heart will will not stop beating now will not be beating again rather until they're all back home this is it from us now we'll be back at the top of the hour thank you for watching Israel is officially in a state of war this is a very active scene and we need to get in the car as we're talking within a hundred soldiers and civilians have been kidnapped entire families including babies and children and elderly were butchered in their beds awaken the giant and we are ready and we are strong everyone is showing up this is the unity come to the special broadcast here on 9 24 news we continue our rolling coverage day 22 of the war in Israel the war and the fog of war a second terror squad eliminated this afternoon in southern Lebanon after trying to launch an anti-tank missiles towards Israeli troops in the south renewed rocket fire from the gulf strip towards southern Israel the IDF is expanding its action combined aerial and ground activity killing the heads of Hamas's earlier aerial and naval operations against the backdrop of a ridiculous U.N. call for a ceasefire the IDF revealing further proof to what was known main Hamas headquarters located under the Shifa hospital in Gaza city as Hamas is using the largest hospital in the strip as a human shield this morning IDF spokesperson once again urging Palestinians in the northern part of the strip to move south where humanitarian centers are set up food water medicine all available but Hamas continues to prevent them from mobilizing whilst talking up on fuel to continue its own terrorist operations going at the direct expense of civilians here's the latest from the IDF spokesperson we will continue to maintain the security of our forces while employing heavy fire from the air we operate against goals that we set for ourselves eliminating Hamas security on the borders and goal of returning the kidnapped all of these together are part of their of our assessments and our advancement in the decision-making by the chief of led by the chief of staff and the other commanders we will receive the right operational decisions when these goals are campus and as we speak red siren alerts are being held here right here in Tel Aviv we can hear it from our studios at the jaffa port here as you can see perhaps our colleagues rushing to shelter yet again ongoing barrages of rockets from the Gaza Strip towards different parts of Israel let's cross now by phone to i-24 news senior defense correspondent Jonathan reggaev Jonathan again as we speak it's another barrage of rockets this time targeting Israel's center earlier in the day Israel south was under a constant constant attack what can you tell us all right we will try to reconnect with i-24 news as senior defense correspondent Jonathan reggaev later on but joining us now here in studio dr. David Shimoni from commanders for Israel security thank you very much dr. Shimoni for joining us once again the not once again ongoing rocket fire from the Gaza Strip nor the way to put it and many here in Israel and abroad are wondering how come would the scope and scale and intensity of israeli strikes there in recent in recent days in the past 20 days or so how come they still have the ability to launch this amount of rockets that's a good question it's a concern to all of us of course okay so we understand that they have huge stockpiles of ammunition we can hear the interceptions hopefully this is a sound of boom again this is we are reporting it live to our audience so we will so they get at least perhaps a glimpse to what it's been like here in the past 22 days please dr. Shimoni yeah so we're sitting here in the studio and hearing the explosions above our heads i say that first of all the Hamas has been stockpiling for many years and protecting their ammunition underground and i think the israeli air force is capable of wiping out this ability but there's a huge consideration for the civil population in Gaza so you cannot just bomb the entire Gaza Strip and every place that we know and we know where these ammunitions are hidden because they are hidden under civilian buildings and schools and facilities hospitals we now hear from the IDF spokesman so there's a there's a big dilemma here how much do you want to strike how fast do you want to try to eliminate this rocket ability without causing too much damage upon the civilian population the question is always at what price and in this respect dr. Shimoni we have seen the israeli operations intensifying with the idea for spokesperson reiterating or clarifying whether what we're seeing those in and out of ground forces in the strip in the past two days or so this is not the grand ground operation and yet we will see more of that yes this is not the big major offensive of tens and thousands or hundreds of thousands of troops rolling into the Gaza Strip we're talking about limited operations both in scope and in depth okay so we're talking about incursions that are about one kilometer one and a half kilometers into the Gaza Strip there are engagements between our troops and Hamas fighters according to what we know successful as from our side engagements inflicting casualties upon the Hamas fighters and we can imagine that these incursions are supposed to improve our conditions for a ground big ground offensive to clear access roads to clear mines to clear booby traps to position observation preparing the ground for the ground operation exactly as precisely and as we know also there's a ongoing attempt to try to find bodies of people who were kidnapped and killed upon on the way into into Gaza so the idea of forces is unfortunately have to deal also with this terrible mission so to that point doctor Shimoni in the earlier days of the of the war and perhaps on as a sign it is a side note this is a good thing that there are assessments and reassessments and thinking and rethinking of of of existing notions um nowadays at this point in time at the earlier phases there was this notion that both objectives of the war the hostages release and eliminate eliminating Hamas I wouldn't say are contradicted but cannot be achieved at the same time together cannot be achieved both through a ground operation and we're seeing perhaps a change in tune here it's a big question if they can be done simultaneously I believe this should be done simultaneously I think if asking my opinion top priority is the hostages is the captives bring them home as soon as possible as safely as possible and we have time to destroy the Hamas I believe the destruction of the Hamas can be a long operation not necessarily all on the battlefield there also you can choke their finances and you can isolate you should right all yeah all means so we're talking now about some some kind of attrition that is inflicted upon Hamas trying to deplete their their stockpiles without them having an ability to replenish but according to the New York Times report from today overnight rather dr. Shimoni it seems that Hamas has been um um readying itself preparing its stocks for more or less four four months of fighting when we talk about fuel and water and food and everything they need to to pursue their operations it's good that it was exposed by the New York Times because the world is not aware of that and there's a lot of pressure on Israel to allow supplies to allow a fuel and as far as even the New York Times reports they have big supplies of food of ammunition Hamas Hamas not the civilians and this is uh what's unfortunate perhaps yes Hamas is not very considerate of their own population that's that's a way to put it not very considerate an understatement uh indeed um and yet I do want to go back to the hostage situation because once again if we're talking about um progressing notions I wouldn't say changing notions time obviously is running out because every second under in the captivity of vile Nazi Hamas terrorists is eternity and yet if there was a thought that the longer um for them to be released the higher the price will be quote unquote for Israel now we're again hearing different voices saying this time is not necessarily is going against the Israeli objectives and that Hamas with its you know double game with the Qatari assistance of reporting here and there progress and it goes into that if a ground operation or rather the power will be um uh will be put on the table the gun of power will be put on the table not the diplomatic one that might also help the hostages objective yeah I believe the more pressure on military pressure on Hamas the more encouragement they'll have to try to negotiate a deal with the hostages for a ceasefire for reduction or for a temporary ceasefire to to improve their military situation their their survival so yes the more pressure we apply upon Hamas the better conditions we have for negotiations but as you mentioned time is a major factor for the hostages they're they're in a terrible situation I would also want to say that I think for our leaders to to do the utmost to save the the captives that the hostages is something that is a message to the entire Israeli people that we care about our people that we do everything to to save them to rescue them it's a message to our troops that if they fall captive Israel will do everything to get them out I think there's even a message to the Jews of the world absolutely that we are there to to be their anchor their security so I think there's a very big reason why our leaders should put this on top top priority above the the care for the these poor people and their families yeah the backbone the moral backbone of of of israel is exactly that and this is what we're fighting for about maintaining for maintaining this moral backbone of a light and of life but we do want to jump now to the north yet another active scene as we put it nowadays i-24 news correspondent mary mccollif standing by there with the i-24 news team area thank you very much for joining us well since the last time we talked exactly an hour ago