Good ones, day morning and welcome to Run It Back. It's our Friday. I always say that, it's confusing to some, but that's okay. Here we are, Evan Turner, Chandler Parsons, Eddie Gonzalez, Michelle Beatle, Sean Charania joining us fresh off the most wonderful night of the year out in Chicago. So we'll be getting to that right away. But first, first we had basketball last night. So we just gotta get through that before we can get to the really cool stuff. But yeah, Lakers Denver, finally we got Hoops back. We have things to watch at night. And this was fun. Look, Lakers, they were down big, put up a big fight from a 21 point deficit, but the Nuggets did take game one, 132, 126. Jokic, 34, 21 and 14, a third straight triple double of the postseason in the third quarter. He out rebounded the entire Lakers squad going into halftime. KCP on his teammate and what it's like playing with LeBron. I feel like the only difference is Bron can jump higher than Jokic. That's the only difference, you guys. This is such a fun time because of all the MVP talk and now it's behind us and here we got Jokic. Is he the best player on the planet right now? Right now, yeah, sure. Because the MVP is not playing anymore and he's been sent home. But it's unbelievable. What this dude did last night is insane. It's one of the best individual three quarter performances I've ever seen in my life. The way he controlled the game, the way he would get out in the break, facilitate, drop in dimes at a double team. Some of the shots that he was even taking, let alone hitting. I mean, he had eight points, 12 rebounds and five assists through the first eight minutes of the game. He had a triple double midway through the third quarter and he was defending. He was covering pick and rolls a lot better. The shots he was even hitting were just absolutely insane and it's crazy because he played so good. So did Anthony Davis and we're not even talking about him because as well as AD played, Jokic dominated the game and they got a lot more from the other guys and it was a full balanced attack and the Lakers can't afford to trade baskets with this team. They're too elite, they're too good, they play too unselfish and they're gonna have to find a way to get back in transition and slow them down. But man, Jokic was insane. Yeah, I agree. Jokic is unbelievable. I'm not ready to call him the best player on the planet yet.  Is he on your top five of current players? On your top? I'll squeeze him in there. Okay, fair enough. He's gotta be top five.  Like you said before, Anthony Davis had an amazing game and we can't even start to talk about him until we pay Jokic his time at G. I didn't see a 31, I think I tweeted a 31, 21, 14 game coming or whatever it was, but an unbelievable night. The way he comes to the game is just, it changes the game. He makes everybody play as he plays. Cause he's Superman. He's the only one that can stop him. Got it. Wow, over my head. He makes the game slow down for him and it's so impressive to watch, especially at this stage, against the players he's playing with the guys who are defending him and you have to adjust on the fly and credit to Darran Ham, he made adjustments and the Nuggets will have to now counter that and tinker with that, but it's just amazing watching what he's doing. And he had half time, he was like 15 and 17. I was like, is he gonna score 40 and 40? I was like, is this the game we're gonna watch right now? But you know, credits of Lakers are fighting back against that big start that they had to go against. Yeah, that was quite the deficit, Shoms. 21 points is no joke. Watching a Lakers 21 point deficit game in the playoffs in Los Angeles is interesting. How was Denver able to do what they did so quickly? Well, I mean, Nicola Joachim, historic performance literally like Chandler said, and then I've never seen this. 10 rebounds, five assists, two blocks in one quarter. First player ever in the last 25 years in the playoffs or regular season. So Nicola Joachim, the numbers he put up, those were great. Anthony Davis had a big time game and we didn't even pay much mind to it, I think overall in the aftermath of it. But I think when you look at the Lakers, I talked about it yesterday, them deciding who to start was gonna be big. They ended up starting small with three guards, the Angel Russell, Dennis Schroeder, as well as Austin Reeves. And I think going into game two, I'm very curious because Denver's a big team. They've got KCP, Aaron Gordon, Michael Porter, Junior, Yo-Kick, Jamal Murray. How do you match up with that physicality, that linked athleticism in the starting lineup? So Darvin Ham's gonna have some questions potentially to answer going into game two. I know you have a play you wanna share with everyone. Yeah, so there was a one play that stood out on me last night. And this is just things that the Lakers can't afford to do against the team.  They have athletic wings like Pope, like Bruce Brown that can get in passing lanes and get in transition. Now, this is just the definition of perfect offense here. It's unselfish. Oh, I loved it. They share the ball. They don't care who scores the basket. And then if you watch the Lakers, nobody's sprinting back besides Austin Reeves and a little bit of Rui there. They can't afford these plays. Like I said, the Nuggets are way too good offensively. They share the ball. They make the extra pass. And now they have these athletic wings. They're making shots. The Lakers have to find a way to limit their transition buckets. But if they move the ball like this and they play this fast, this is going to be a quick series. Ooh. I think the number one thing is just the Lakers getting their legs under them. Okay.  And when you're going to be in such a great offense, I mean, it's a perfect combination to have a couple of tough role games. But I think one thing that occurs is the experience and, you know, the realization of, you know, the Bryan understanding, you can't go down 2-0. And, you know, I know guys hate seeing it, but I believe the Lakers are still locked in everybody's together and they're truly intentful on trying to win this game and figure it out. I mean, look, they were down 21 and it pains me to say anything positive at this point, but they only lost by six. So are you pessimistic or optimistic if you're Los Angeles? Well, I'm optimistic because they did make some changes. They put Rui on Yokoz. They didn't allow him to bring the ball up and he did a really good job trying to be physical with them and not letting it be so easy. And they did, they fought. They scrambled around. They started playing harder on defense. They started making shots. They were getting good shots early on when they were going through LeBron in the post. They just weren't making, they weren't knocking down the jumpers. So it's definitely at the end of the day, they got dominated for most of this game and they gave up 72 points in the first half. And this is the most points I think the Nuggets have ever scored in the history of their franchise through three quarters. So no team is gonna be able to sustain that and win many games, giving up that many points.  I think it also helped them rebound. Like they was getting killed, having to close out on shots and then Yokoz is in the paint, just grabbing every rebound in sight. They still got our rebound by 17 rebounds last night and the Lakers aren't accustomed to doing that. They won the Warrior Series by packing the paint, by getting the boards, by doing that. And Yokoz is just a monster. You have to accommodate for that if you're gonna do that. I think, look, there's simple fixes for the Nuggets. They can just outright post Yokoz on Rui. He can't do nothing about that, space out and get him doing it. They run pick and rolls with other guys. I think the answer that we eventually have to come down to is that the Lakers wanna play this style of defense and they want AD off ball away from Yokoz. It's gonna fall on LeBron.  He's gonna have to be out there guarding pick and rolls and can he do it at this point? Even with Rui doing it, LeBron probably had to guard Michael Porter Jr. He's gonna move a lot off ball. He's gonna take a lot of shots. And they're gonna have to test him. So we're gonna see. I mean, I think LeBron will step up, but can he at 38 years old? I think this is the only time. Obviously it's this legacy. I think the number one thing is, they're so close to confidence factor and everything you factor in. I believe they're gonna figure it out. LeBron can step up, be able to defend. You remember back in the day versus Spurs, he's able to shut down Tony Parker in the final minutes. I don't remember that. Is that gonna happen? That's awesome. But for sure, they have their plate four right now. Their offense is clicking. The Nuggets offense is clicking. Everybody has to be ready to guard a full 48. I mean, something happened at halftime, right? Like something good happened in the Lakers locker room at halftime.  That already happened the first half. It was only up from there. And again, the third quarter, they scored, the Lakers scored 38 points and shot 75% from the field. So on the flip side, the Nuggets can't do that either. They have to keep their foot on the gas because they haven't been a great defensive team all year long, but there were some plays last night where I showed that they're bought into winning and then they won a contend and they want to win a championship this year. I don't think I've ever seen Michael Porter on the floor like I did at the end of the game. He was diving on the floor. He was getting in passing lanes. He was really, he blocked two jump shots last night. Jokic, again, was giving more effort and energy on that defensive end than I've ever seen him do. Brown, Pope, these guys. So it seems like they're locked in and making a collective effort to at least try to defend because we know what we're gonna get with their offense. They are so good. They are so unselfish. They play the right way. If they're doing both, as you can see, they're a scary, scary team. Lakers had an incredible second half offensively. They shot the ball really well. The problem was the Nuggets did too until they really locked up in the fourth quarter. It's crazy. They only lost by six points this game. It looked like it was over in the middle of third quarter. And if you remember that, Jokic's three that got quite the reaction out of AD and Jamal Murray hit a wild three in the fourth quarter at the end of the shot clock as well. That's six points. That's how you lose games. And sometimes it's that simple. It's like, yo, we couldn't stop them earlier and it's a wrap. If you're the Lakers, yeah, you feel good. I see people saying it was like a win for the Lakers and a loss for the, no, it was a loss for the Lakers. They lost the game one. What are we talking about? But yeah, they feel like they can compete with this team. They feel like they can beat this team. But they have to win game two. And I will say there was big, there was big, like Jeff Green, they cut it to nine. Jeff Green hit the corner, the corner three. They cut it to three or six points and Pope hit a big three. So they had their chances. They just needed one or two more stops. And they were right in this game. Austin Reeds hit two big threes to cut it to three. So they made plays and they put themselves in the situation to win this game. But again, it's hard to sustain that kind of deficit. Austin hits the big three to cut it to three. And he has another three, maybe two possessives later to tie it and misses that one. And that goes down. It's a different ball game. And we still haven't talked much about AD, but the fact, the type of game that he's had is gonna be super encouraging moving forward. Cause he had a great game, the close-out series versus the Warriors. But last night he even had a 40 piece. I think him being active, him being activated to be able to go in and continue to be assertive is going to be huge for the Lakers in the end, especially when the rest of their team shows up and starts making shots. A lot has been made, obviously, over the course of many, many years about playing in Denver and the altitude and all that. And people are gonna focus on stamina and specifically LeBron at 38. Do you think there's anything there? I mean, it's for sure something there. I mean, of course I felt like what happened at halftime was your second win kicked in. And you know, we spoke on before, he's gonna have to only get a day in between games to get a rest. So he's got to be ready, use, you know, a little bit of that million and a half on his body that he spends on budget each year to, you know, get him ready and get him going for game two because they gotta win this one. And also game two, I need more from Schroeder. I need more from Daniel Russell. They cannot get outplayed so badly by Bruce Brown and Cobo Poe. Bruce Brown, like, can we just for a minute? Man, he's gone. That was fun. He's, Dilo did the whole, I'm gonna shoot after the game, I'm wearing my unium, still shooting. You guys ever did this? Does this matter? No, I never did it, but like, I've seen tons of people that have done it and I didn't care about it. And we still focus on it. So like, let's not rag on Dilo. You know what I mean? He didn't throw a ladder down on a guy. No, of course. And like the shoot, like, how you gonna work on free? Like, with Yanis, he was working on free throws post-game, he shot 25 during the game. Yeah. You know what I mean? You got a lot of work early. You don't like that? Do we not like that? I mean, look, it shows he cares, I guess. It shows he wants to be better, but yeah, make him, we need him to make him in the game. Is there a practice gym in that arena? Like, they couldn't go to that one? I mean, look, Russell Wilson was in the crowd and he's notoriously cheesy about doing stuff like that and working out on the team plan and stuff. It's contagious. So I feel like, you know, it's contagious. It was in the air. That's all part of it. Big Nuggets fan, Russell Wilson. Oh, huge. Lifetime. Lifetime. Guys, you ready? Good night for you. Time to shift to the draft lottery. Oh, the greatest night in NBA history last night. Spurs winning it all. It's not just any draft lottery, by the way. It's the holy grail, the power ball of draft lotteries. Victor Wimanyama is going to San Antonio. I'm just, there is, sorry, Shoms, to carry the torch from Tim Duncan and David Robinson. There's been already a lot of time, I mean, look at, look at my hometown. This is just to watch a ping pong ball get picked. What is that? Buffalo Wild Wings. Jamie Shea, I mean, Goofy. Goofy, race for safe, baby.  Best landing spot for Wimanyama. This is now going to be the question that we ask. Was this it? I think so, for sure. And again, he's not going to a good team, but he's going to a good organization. Intentionally good. There's nobody better for him to learn from than pop. And you know Tim, he's going to come around. You know David Robinson's going to come around. He's going to have these legendary bags that he can learn from. He already has the familiarity with all the French guys with Boris and Tony Parker owning his team in France. So again, this is the stars are aligned. He said this is where he wanted. This is where the whole country of France wanted him to go. No pressure. So this worked out. And it just shows that, I mean, the Spurs are very, very good at tanking because when they do it, they get a generational seven foot guy. We're clearly all saints because the karma was in the air. Oh, yes. By the way, what you don't see are my tears and sweat that were all part of the, I never thought watching Mark Tatum open up the envelopes was going to be so scary. I'll say too, I was more hyped to watch this lottery show than the actual game coming afterwards. I was standing up for it. I was getting drafted. It was insane. And by the way, sorry to anyone around me in the hotel because I did scream very loudly when it finally happened. I can't believe it affected me like it did because I didn't think there was a chance. It's been a long time since we had our last championship. So yes, we've been suffering. Yeah, baby. Sean Elliott was already ready to go home. Everybody's so happy. We're already planning ahead. Evan, what did you think? Did you roll your eyes? Were you like enough? And I was like, of course. I was more upset because they never gave my boy MJ a number one pick. You know what I mean? He always gets a second pick. He's had enough. This could have helped, but no, this is huge. I think it's going to be good for the game of basketball. Obviously it spurs. It's a great organization for Victor, the history of what Chandler said. I think it's going to do great. I think it's going to develop well. And number, what? Number six is kind of. Yeah, race for sace, ladies and gentlemen. Get ready for the hashtag. By the way, also shout out Dallas. You're lucky as always. Shams was there. Tell us about it. What was it like in the room? So Michelle, that bar scene that we just saw, I'm just figuring, trying to figure out, how did you make it back to LA? I know you were somewhere in there. Chandler's PJ. You're getting in. Good friend here. It was, it was the most surreal, probably lottery to be a part of, just because everyone knew the stakes. I went to the Zion Williamson Lottery as well, but there was, you could tell there was something more unique this year, especially with the teams involved. The Spurs weren't really in the mix for Zion that year, but I think this was massive. And when Peter Holt, when they got the number one pick, he literally got up. This is probably my most favorite part of the draft lottery. He got up, I don't know if they showed it on TV, but he got up and he was fist pumping. He kept saying, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. And afterward, I think the question around Peter Holt was, did he curse? Did he swear on national TV? He didn't. But Peter Holt, R.C. Buford, their GM, Brian Wright, they were elated, but he kept saying, let's go over and over and over again. You could hear it throughout the ballroom. He was pumped up and this is massive for the Spurs organization. They've been doing a lot of research. They've been embedded abroad, doing their research on all the European players, the broad players, like they always do, but especially with Victor Wemenyama, trying to make sure they research everything, they've no stone unturned. And this is a guy that's gonna be coming in with lofty, lofty expectations. One of the best prospects ever in NBA history, and I think for the Spurs, this is just massive.  Heck yeah, you do. Shout out to the Spurs. We're doing their due diligence and their research. They could have just asked me, that's the number one pick right there, buddy. That's the one you want. Look, I'm excited for them. I'm excited for POP because a lot of people are wondering what's next in his career. When is he finished? I personally thought, you know, he just wanted to win the gold medal.  And now he has like a project for the next decade to be a part of, to build up his new Timmy, his new Tony, his new whoever it is. I just want to see him play. That summer league game when they play, if the Spurs play them, I wouldn't. I would keep them out of everything until it's time to play real games. I'm with you. That's gonna be a movie out there and I can't wait to see it. That's, yeah, that's all. By the way, do they even bring in Scoot or Brandon Miller for a workout? Do you? Or do they have no workouts? No, no. We're not talking to nobody. We're not even working him out. Like he's good, we're good to go. By the way, this is the quickest way to find out your hypocrite, which is what I found out last night. This entire time I've been like, this is too much pressure on a kid. I don't think we should build it up. The minute that envelope got over, I was like, we won it all! For sure. Because it's like, I'm a hypocrite and there's a lot of pressure on this teenage person, but man, it was fun to watch. He had a disposable camera last night with his family out in France at two o'clock in the morning. I loved it. It wasn't the only thing that happened last night. There were other teams there trying to do great things. We know how the Pistons have been tanking. They showed Ben Wallace, because he was the representative. He looked so awesome. I thought, uh-oh. And then they get the number five. Do you think this does anything to maybe decentivize tanking at all? I mean, I would think so. For the Pistons situation, they need as many assets as they can possibly get. So for that particular situation, I think they're going to do it regardless, but to only win 17 games and get the fifth pick. But I don't even know if they were tanking. They just weren't good.  They couldn't think they could not win this year with that roster. So there's a difference in a good team resting their guys and tanking with the Detroit Pistons. I mean, they didn't play K towards the end of the year. Yeah, they had the recipe to fail this year. So I wouldn't even consider them tanking. They just knew they were going to lose. There are certain teams like Dallas, like Toronto, that kind of ended up tanking towards the end there that were actually good at basketball and that could make a run in the playoffs that didn't work out. But yeah, winning 17 games and getting the fifth pick. You go from maybe getting victor to one of the Thompson twins is a dramatic drop-off. But yeah, it's- Poor kids. Yeah, it's tough. 20 Thompson points. There you go. I just did the lottery similar eight times in a row. Wow. Didn't the Blazers miss it by like one ball or something it said last night too? Like they missed the number one pick by one number. Is that what it was? Yes. They ain't going to like that. They don't know what to do. You're going to work fine with that. They don't know what to do number one picks out there. Here's a question for you, Shoms. What pick in the lottery do the Spurs get next year is what we're all wondering. We're not all wondering that, Shoms. When Mianma said last night, he's trying to win a chip. I heard that. I heard that. I don't know if he's really focused on trying to get in the lottery. But I think, you know, being there last night, there was a powerful sense of like optimism with teams like the Spurs. And even to an extent, Charlotte, they moved up a little bit. But you could just tell around Detroit and around the teams that slipped out of the top three, especially being Detroit. I mean, Houston for sure also slipped a little bit as well. But Detroit was top two, top three odds. They slept all the way to five. I don't know if that's ever happened before. But definitely that there's heartbreak there when you don't get a chance to drive Victor, Mianma, or even the number two pick. And there was a lot of chatter this week. I'm here at the combine. There's a lot of chatter around executives that if the pisses had gotten number one, they were going to go all in aggressively with all their resources to go hire Monty Williams. At that point, with the number one pick, that would have been an extremely appealing job for Monty Williams. Alas, they end up with number five. Still a talented roster. I think Troy Weaver's done a good job. But there's heartbreak involved when you go from number one or number two to number five and in any lottery. Wait, so they're basically saying since we don't have the number one pick, we're not even going to bother embarrassing ourselves by asking Monty to come coach this team. Is that what they're saying? I'm saying that when you get the number one pick in this draft, it changes a lot. It changes which coaches might have interest. It changes the value. In some instances, I think it could have changed valuations of teams. Like imagine if Charlotte got the number one pick and you're Michael Jordan trying to sell your team. Do you ask for, how much more money do you ask for? 400 million, 500 million? I think that was definitely a question that team executives, league executives have been asking. Yeah, there were a lot of valuation comments last night about what having Victor Wimanyama does to a franchise. Look, the Blazers, I think were one of the lucky ones last night as well. They did get that three pick. Run, Pop, run! He might have been running like a retirement. He's like, no, now it's starting all over again. I love it so much. Do you think Dame stays in Portland now? Does this do anything for that? I think this might be go the other way. Like, we get Scoot Henderson, now we can shop Dame. Now we can get something for Dame. We can re-up with Amp Simons with Scoot or Brandon Miller with Shaden Sharp, your guy, and build to the future now. And it might incentivize them to do that. Had they got number one, it's a little different. Had they got number two, even. But number three, they're almost not getting to pick the guy, but it does set him up on a good place to build their future. I'm of the belief that he's out this summer. I don't know if he's gonna have to ask out. I don't know if he has his desired places. See Evan over there smiling, he might know a little better than me. Go on. But if I was running the team, I'd probably be a terrible GM because I'd be like, yo, this is the time to kick Dame to the curve. We got Scoot Henderson there. Or do you be a grand GM? And also as good as Victor is and as good as he's going to be, there's a good chance that Scoot is better right away. There's a really good chance that Brandon Miller is better. Like I think he's got better odds to be rookie of the year than Victor because this is a project. He's gonna, you look at his body, his frame. This is gonna take time. I don't think he's gonna be fantastic right away. We'll get him some enchiladas, some tagos. Yeah, exactly. Fatty mac is gonna be good. A lot of burger. Yeah, well, a lot of burgers are days. I think having Poppins as coach even makes that even more sure. Like he's gonna play that slow. He's gonna get him like he's done this before. This is not Tim Duncan coming out of four years at Wake Forest, ready to play in the finals immediately. Pop knows what he's looking at. He's gonna take his time. He's gonna get it right. And so yeah, I'm with you. I think, you know, Brandon Miller, Scoot Henderson, those are definitely the favorites for the rookie of the year next year. And Chet. And so it's like, let's get it going. And Chet. Well, he's had a whole year to poke up. No, absolutely. I'll tell you Diggy, but when you look at what Scoot Henderson is doing, I love Scoot. He's a man. Yeah, if they were to take him number one, I mean, you can't do that, of course, but physically, he's so gifted. But we get back to the Blazer situation. I like what they can do if they still keep Dame Luller. We forget how great of a player Dame Luller is and what he's able to do with the teams he had in the past. And if you use this third pick and some of the assets they already have, maybe you do get one or two good players in return. And with Dame Luller, he feels it. So he can win the championship in Portland with the right pieces. So I don't think there's anything around that camp saying trade Dame much more than being like, yo, how can we load them up with a team and assets? I'll be interested. I'll just not forget how good Dame was. I do not. I wake up at night first. It's like I think about it every night before I go to bed. By the way, the Mavs. Whew, there were New York Knicks fans all around, just come on, please, please. And then it didn't happen. So it was worth it, right? The tank was worth it. I mean, it was definitely worth it. But again, I think the system is kind of, it's fraud, right? Like a lot of teams have not ever had the number one pick and it just basically makes building a great team lucky. Like, you know what I mean? I think there's definitely some holes in the system. But yeah, the fact that Mark did this and it worked out was probably worth the fine, right? But it's funny, I was talking to someone in Dallas and you can say nothing and be quiet and you're good or you can tell the truth and you get fine. So it's a fine line of what's right, what's wrong. But in this case. That's a late lesson right there.  But yeah, this worked out for him and now they get to a top 10 pick and instead of losing it to New York. I can't believe that worked out for, I mean, I can, but I can't. Like it was very, very lucky. There was other news yesterday, not great news. Got guy lost his job. Doc Rivers fired by Philadelphia. Shoms, look, this happens every season. I feel like with Doc, but it finally did happen. Shoms, was anyone surprised? No, I mean, anytime that you finish the way that they finished it, lose a 3-2 lead. We know the numbers on Doc Rivers losing leads, but at the end of the day, Joel and B, James Harden in game six and game seven, they just did not look in sync enough offensively. Those two guys just needed one good game together to close out Boston. They couldn't come up with it. I spoke about it on Monday, just the lack of them figuring out their offense and their offensive schemes. They did not have that pick and roll with James Harden and Joel and B to be available. The Boston essentially let them pass the corners, test their shooters, and they got rid of their best threat, which was that pick and roll, that arguably the best pick and roll in the league. And so finding a new coach that can get the most out of both of those guys, I think will be a high priority. They're gonna look at all the normal names, the high level names, Mike Budenholzer, Nick Nurse, Monty Williams, Mike Dantoni, that's an interesting name. He has a lot of history with James Harden, PJ Tucker, Daryl Mori, but I believe this will be a process that will take time. I don't think they're gonna rush to something. I think this is gonna be an extensive process. And they're gonna have to work internally with their guys, with their players, with their staff for an office to make sure that they get this higher right. Somewhere Mike Dantoni's like, er, I don't know, what, I don't know. What is that about? Are you on another order often? I mean, good Lord, but look, this is always the question when a coach and a coach with a resume gets fired, was it the reason they lost to the Celtics? Or was he? No, was he the reason that James played bad? No, was he the reason that James played good and had 40 plus points in those two games? No, was he the reason Joellen B was the MVP? No, and it is, I understand the history in the past of Doc Rivers and blowing these, you know, these leads that he has and losing game sevens, but at the end of the day, coaches that are game managers, they need to know how to run a team, they know how to run substitutions at a timeouts, they need to run an offense, but at the end of the day, players are gonna play. And the number one thing that I learned in my career is they have to be a player's coach. It's a player's league, you have to get along, you have to be likable. And from guys that have played with him, I've never played for Doc. I have a great relationship with him, but guys that play with him, I think it's a little different. And there's some trust issues there and so there's some personality traits that don't sit well with players. So put this all on him after the season they had, I don't think that's fair, but I tweeted yesterday the coaching is just a cesspool, right? Like, let's fire this guy and let's go hire someone else that someone else just fired for doing the same thing we fired this guy for. Like how? It's like love. It pisses me off. Just pick it up, scraps. And that's why I will never be on that end of it. I like this side where we can sit here, dissect and point our fingers because it's such a player's league and it's really, really unfair. Coaches get tough things. That is, yes. Yeah, that's literally what they do.  It's not Joella, it's not Tyrese Maxi, it might be James Harden, but you have to make changes. I think, I always think, look, they had Doc there, then they hired Dale Maury as the president of basketball. You hire a president of basketball, they're always gonna wanna have their coach have their vision of the team. Started instilling his vision a little bit. James Harden made a big trade for him. PJ Tucker, he's had some shooters and even went and got Daniel House, his old friend. He's gonna want his coach and you always figured that. Now, who his coach is? That's, I get why people are saying Mike Dan, Tony, but all the candidates are the guys who just got fired. They just fired Nick Nurse who won a title. They just fired Monty Williams who went to the finals. It's like, oh, we want the guy that got fired from the other team and maybe he can do better with our guys and it just goes to say, they're not really doing all that bad jobs, they're just losing, I guess. And we end up with this. You need something else maybe, but now what do you think about Harden? Does he stay now or does he go or did this matter? I don't think he should go back to Houston. We talked about it yesterday. Go somewhere where it's worth your time, your last three or four years of your career, but I think the number one thing he has to do is just accept accountability. We always speak on this game. This is Kryptonite is game seven. Yes. So we leave every season. Ben Simmons left the season, Blame and die for how it turned out. You know, certain years other players have done that as well, but I think when it comes down to it, the players have to be accountable and just win the game.  So when it doesn't go your way, just say, yo, I messed up and call it a day and I say only James and I can't win with just us or we need five players out there. Like, no, you all make all the money, get all the headlines, all the trophies. Now get all the blame for it. I mean, or you just, you need to avoid game sevens. Yeah, that's another thing. Get it over with for that. Our expectations for head coaches. And I know it fluctuates from team to team and when, but do we think they're too high? I mean, again, like we just talked about, it doesn't all fall on them because they don't get the praise when their guys are all stars or their guys do advance. And again, they were one game away from going to the Eastern Conference finals and having a really good matchup against the Miami Heat. So I think it's more with the history of Doc and what he hasn't been able to do in these closeout games in the playoffs. But again, this all doesn't fall on him. I think a lot of times teams just do this for a breath of fresh air to mix it up, to change it up and think that they could kind of get the best out of the guys that the first guy didn't. But it's an unruly, unfair business, which I never hoped to be in.  So why do you keep saying that's the reason you don't want to? Yeah, the schedule of an NBA player but the salary of an NBA coach. I'm out. Shoms, great job. I'm jealous you were in the room last night. This is our Friday. So we will see you on Monday bright and early. I thought of you, Michelle. Thank you. That makes me happy. Oh, Lurt. We're taking a quick break. We come back for basketball tonight. We will preview the Eastern Conference finals. Oh, well that's a prediction. The NBA Eastern Conference finals to be off tonight is the Miami Heat face off against the Boston Celtics. But why just watch? When you can earn a share of 10,000 bucks in cash prizes, when you enter the DoorDash Conference Finals challenge on Fanduil, all you have to do is draft your best lineup of five players ahead of the matchup while staying under the salary cap. Fans with the highest scoring lineups will win their share of cash prizes. Enter for free on Fanduil.com today. Another game tonight, Eastern Conference Finals getting underway. Any chance, a legit chance that this Miami Heat team can pull this thing off, Chandler? Yeah, I'm not sleeping on the heat. I think there's a chance. I don't think they're the favorites, but listen, everything they've been through this season, the ups and downs, the play-in tournament, everything they've overcome with the injuries of Tyler Hero and Victor Eladipo, they're right there. And Jimmy Butler is a bona fide star. He's been one of the best players in the playoffs, but I look forward to that too. Bam out of bio. He's got to be big. He's got to be aggressive. Look at the Boston Celtics. I'm Horford, Robert Williams. They really don't have anybody to handle him. I'd love to see him come out of the gates early. You know what you're going to get from Jimmy. You know the two wings on the other side on Boston are going to have great games and have exploded for a lot of points, but I would love to see Bam kind of control the paint, be versatile and do his thing because they really don't have anybody for him.  Jimmy's going to have to be electric. I think Bam's going to have to show up and the others are going to really have to chip in. Matt Shruce is going to have to hit his shots when Duncan Robinson get in. He's going to have to make plays along with Caleb Martin. And then they're going to have to do their job on the other end defensively because you see Tatum averaging 28 a night. Jalen Brown's coming in, getting a 25 plus. And then every now and then you got Marcus, Mark, his shots and it's a loaded team to go after. So it's going to be a full 48 minutes.  They always have a chance. He cultured. Boston has the most talent left in the playoffs, I believe they have the most explosive offense, even with Jokic doing the things he's doing over there on the right night. These guys hit 20, 25 threes. Can't beat that. I think he got a five fire or fire. They need Kevin Love to shoot better than 20% from three in the 15 minutes he's playing. They need Max Shruce to light it up. They need Duncan Robinson. I'm wondering how late in this series we can start talking about Tyler Hero coming back. Initially they said the finals. Now they're saying maybe late Eastern Conference finals. He's in a soft cast. People are getting excited. They need that extra gun. They need that against this team. Is it doable? Yes. But they're rightfully the underdogs for sure. Coming back for a smirk of smirk, all six weeks of rest, that's... Not good. You might have to maintain sanity. Just the playoff. I just said, I just said. Bam, bam, come screen. I need to help me. It's not ideal. Hit him hard. Come get him, big fella. Are we worried though, at all, this Celtics team and the pressure of being the favorites? I don't, I have to talking to the young kid. I think he's ready. I think he'll be prepared.  I have a bad taste in their mouth from giving up a 2-1 lead. I think they thought like after getting there, where, you know, the expectations are realistic. So this is a familiar foe and they comprehend that they're up and, you know, Tyler Hero's not playing and they have all their players right now in the Celtics. And I think they're gonna try to go in and close this out within five. Yeah. And they were just battle tested against Philly, right? And they had their back against the wall, but this team is poised to win a championship. They're great offensively. They're great defensively. They're deep. They have that guys that have been here before. I don't see this series going very long, but again, I've been sleeping on the heat all your longings butler and they're doing some special things. So who knows? Yeah, buddy, on that graphic right there, losing the finals last year did something to him. So they're gonna be ready. They're gonna be ready. And I think they know if they handle business here, there's a long series happening on the other end right there. You get a nice week of rest before the finals start, June 1st, I believe. Let's lock it in, let's get it done. I think they're gonna be focused. I don't know, this heat team, I think I'm a believer. Something happened. It's weird. You got the heat winning this year? I mean, I just don't feel like this is a sure thing as maybe some do, or as those numbers would tell you, but yeah, it feels like it'll be closer than it is. Guys, break time. When we return, 2012, NBA champion, Steven Jackson is here. We've got questions for Jackson. It's gonna be good. We are back, 2003 champion. I'm fired. Steven Jackson in studio today, co-host of the All the Smoke podcast with horse with Matt Barnes, a ginormous podcast, to say the very least. Oh my goodness, buddy. I know you love mornings. So do we, as you can tell. Okay, I know we're gonna get to the draft lottery last night, because it's a big moment, but I know there was a lot made of... I'm gonna ask you, which part is it? Well, you are now, because you mend it.  Yeah, we're good. How did that all happen with us? Well, nothing, actually, we haven't had any conversations. It's just, you know, times pass, things happen. You know, I forgive them. They did give me an opportunity to win the championship, but you know, I had to let them know what they did. You know what I mean? A lot of people didn't understand how my career ended with San Antonio. I had to tell those stories. Let me ask you this though. In the same, in the interview you did with Jean-Té Murray, you did reference women in San Antonio being, man, you want to talk about that with me? Yeah, I live there, and you know, one thing about me, I like my women a friar way from being fat, right? I do. I like my women with some meat on them, right? So, in San Antonio, it was just perfect for me, you know, all the women that I like to eat, you know, it's one of the leading cities in obesity in Texas. Don't you use the word... It's just the truth, it's just the truth, but you know, it worked for me because I'm from Texas, so I was used to it. I know, we're allowed to say it, guys, not y'all. We would not be fighting the same thing. No, no, no. We would not be arguing over that. I'm a country boy, I'm a country boy. But obviously we know all the expectations with Victor, going number one, most likely going to the Spurs. What can he expect, you know, playing in that system, that city for pop, everything that comes with it? I think the biggest thing for him that he's going to be in a system where everything is professional is a championship organization that used to win and they do everything by the book. They're going to have everything he needs for him to be successful and be the best player he needs to be. I think it's the best situation for any young kid coming into the NBA is going to that family orientated, San Antonio Spurs organization where you're going to get the best out of everything there. Look, I'm going to pivot a little bit. We don't talk about Spurs all day. John Murray, this is just something you've been outspoken about. And I know people say a lot of times, yo, Vets in the locker room would help and stuff isn't happening in the locker room. But if you were his vet, like what would your advice be to him in this situation you've had, you know, in a situation you just spoke about as well? What's going on? Like, what do you tell somebody going through this? Well, you know, at the same time, you can have Vets, but you have to want to do right by yourself first, right?  Guys like Reggie Miller, guy like Steve Smith. So I was able to make some drastic changes in my life to be where I'm at today because I cared about the people around me. I didn't want to be selfish and make decisions that I heard people that I take care of. You know, I care about people around me. So I wanted to continue to be the protective provider that I was raised to be. So he has to make that decision on and sit down and look in the mirror like, okay, I'm being selfish to do these things.  It's not nothing that somebody's doing or baiting him in to do it. He's doing it on his own. So I think it's nothing that a veteran or anything can do it. At this point, he has to look in the mirror and understand what's that jeopardy. And he has to make these decisions. His dad can't tell him anything. His mom can't tell him anything. This is all on him. The second time, I think everything that's happening, the blame, the trouble he's going to get in suspension, all that needs to sit in his lap. And he needs to deal with this time to understand what's his fate.  You know what I'm saying? We got in the brawl. You know what I'm saying? That didn't do any justice for me. So he has to own up to this and sit down and look in the mirror and understand that, okay, I made this mistake now. I have to deal with it. Whether the suspension, whether it's missing it all year, he got to deal with it. Nobody can help him this time. Wait, what do you think the league should do suspension wise? How much? Well, I've been a guy who lost three million for one punch. So I really don't want to get into that side of it.  You know what I'm saying? I was helping somebody. I was actually helping a teammate too. You know what I'm saying? Y'all were going 12 on $18,000 in your head too. You're outnumbered. Suspension, whatever it is, Michelle, whatever it is, I just think that it needs to be something that is going to make him realize what he has to stake because eight games didn't do it. You know, talking to people didn't do it. It has to pay a point where, because for me, when I got to spend it 30 games and the game was taken away from me, I really had to sit down like, shh, damn. And that's what really hurts. Money, the friends, all that. Take the game away from him and see what happens. Yeah, honestly, it's sad to me that this kid has it all, right? He's got 230 million guaranteed. He's so talented. He's one of the most successful, fun to watch players in the league. And there's a small window for you to maximize that and to see him do it the first time and now to do the same thing again. Like you said, it was self-inflicted. It's not like TMZ got him, right? So this is just immature. It's ignorant. It shows his apology. It really didn't mean much because he just went. He surrounds himself with horrible people and I hope he gets better. And I hope, cause I mean, he's great for the league, right? He is so talented. He is fun to watch.  So many kids are watching. You can't put this message out there, right? I have a nephew, bro. I don't mean to cut you off, but I have a nephew. Epso, my brother passed at the end of last year, my little brother. And he's a big John Merritt fan, right? He wears his hair like him, dresses like him, everything. I reached out to Jai and so my brother, my little brother nephew really wants to meet you. He's going through a tough time, just lost his dad. He reached out. So he's a good kid. You know what I'm saying? He's a good kid. I just think that a lot of times when kids from our area fall into money, we want to be gangsta. We think that money makes us gangsta. And that's totally the opposite. I come from it and I made it a point for me to try to get away from it because I know how hard it was being in that life. And a lot of times when you see kids do that, they're trying to be something or not.  So for him to do that, it shows that he's influenced by the wrong type of people, by the wrong type of music, and he should be the one influencing others instead of being influenced by nonsense. No, I mean, y'all say it all. I definitely agree. I think everything with a pro athlete and a position you're in, it's just accountability and the direction that you want to go. And with Jai, I think one thing that's occurring is he's going from being the young, cute puppy kid that everybody loved to now being a man and comprehending that he has to take over the organization and franchise and the whole league to really set the tone and slow everything down and be like, yo, this is how we're going to do things now. When he says a quote, everybody says it. When he does a dance, everybody does it. So I think he has to be cognizant of that at all times and be like, yo, I just got to at least do all my dumb stuff inside the crib with no phones. You know what I mean? And elevate to a businessman in an icon like he really is. The first time this happened was a lot more favorite for him around the league. A lot of guys would say, hey, I get it. You know, this time it's a lot more of like, hey, fool me once, you know what I mean?  He has too much responsibility. He has Nike, he has the NBA, he has Powerade, he has all these situations that are built on him, including his family and all that stuff. Now everybody's like, all right, dog, like what are we doing now? And he's going to have to live with that, like you said, and if they take away the game from him, they take away all that, he's going to have to look with the end. And I think, you know, we might finally be at that point, hopefully. And just to change pace, obviously I got a question for you. If you were James Harden, where would you be hooping that picture? Oh. What a side step there. You stay in Phillies, styled by the Lylas, or would you go down? Yeah.  You know, one thing about Houston, they love James and Houston. They love him and Houston.  Why would you go to this and? Because it ain't the same. But you ain't, you're not winning there. Triple double leave after party. The streets is waiting for it. He has a restaurant there, restaurant 13. I think for him, man, it depends on what he wants out the rest of his career. Does he want to run his numbers up and have a good time and build his legacy in Houston? Does he want to stay in Philly? And with his guys, Dan Foney, and if he comes, and Darren Moore and lose for the rest of his career, because that's what's gonna happen. If Dan Tony ain't won nothing, I don't know why they think about bringing him in and bringing them back together. What have they won together? Nothing. I don't know. I don't know why they even think bringing that up. Dan Tony's the only guy that keep getting jobs that ain't won nothing. I don't, that just hurts me to death, bro. But if he stay in Philly, it's gonna really depend on what coach. It's gonna really depend on what coach. You know, they blamed everything on Dock and Dock does have a bad track record of being a three one. I can't go against that. But if I was James, I would find a situation where I can be me, but also win. And I think that's definitely not in Houston. It might be in Philly, who knows where it is, but not Houston. No. He ain't gonna win it here. Yeah, just retire there. Yeah. That's it. If you wanna chill, it's cool. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. Let's talk about you a little bit. The show with Matt Bond, All the Smoke, one of the biggest podcasts in the world in these shows. At what point did you two come together and say, hey, let's do this? And when did you know that was the move for you? I think it was just a timing thing. I was doing Fox and ESPN at the time, and Matt was as well. And a lot of the shows, you know, we were doing good and bringing a lot of attention to a lot of shows. We was like, man, we need to do our own show. And we were just sitting and smoking one day and we were talking about the show. And it's such to say, y'all need to come over to the show, like name it All the Smoke. She came up with it. Matt had a great relationship with Ellen Reckerton. She's one of the creators of Red Table Talk. She brought us to Showtime with Brian Daly. We pitched the idea two weeks later, well, maybe a month later, we're doing a photo shoot for the show. And, you know, it's really tall out fans, man. I think for me and Matt, people love us because we wear our emotions on our sleeve. Everything we go through in life, we talk about it. We don't hide about it. And a lot of people that come on our show, they feel like they can do the same thing, say things they've been wanting to say and get stuff off their chest. So the reason for our success has been for our support from our fans, but a lot of our guests that come on and tell good stories and, you know, give us a lot of stuff that nobody knew about them. So it's been a blessing from Showtime and the shots out to Matt for bringing us together. Yeah, pull up, man. I know it's early. Yeah, pull up, man. Yeah, he the boss, man. He do, hey, I don't mind getting up because he gonna do all the hard stuff. He gonna do all the meetings. He gonna make sure the money, right? The contract, right? That's smart. Yeah, I like that. I do the dirty work. Yeah, you go. I went on your show. I had a great time. We had a great time. We had a great time. Might still be hot. And you gave us the best Kobe story we've had on our show. Thank you, thank you. The best Kobe story. That was crazy. That was all facts too. That was not gassing that. But besides me, who were you most looking forward to chopping up on your show? Because you've had some crazy list of guests. My favorite guest, well, I have two, Will Smith and Jim Gray. Jim Gray has been like a mentor of mine for the last five, six years. He talked about him in his book and he's somebody who I talk to a lot, even with the boxing space now. I'm learning a lot from him. But Jim Gray has some of the best stories. He's been around so long. Muhammad Ali's first and last interview. He got a lot of great stories of sports, man. But Will Smith's first interview was right after the Chris Rock. Oh dear. And also, when he just dropped the Emancipation movie, it was an excellent movie. Antoine Foucault, it was a great movie. And just been able to talk to him and he announced on the show that he's producing my documentary with Westbrook. Yeah, so that interview was just great. To be able to meet him and to pick his brain. Jax, this has been a pleasure and an honor. All the smoke, I don't even know, I don't need to promote it. It's one of the biggest podcasts out there. It's been great to see you. I know you're busy. It's been a while. It's been a while. It's been a while. We're gonna come back and wrap things up really, really, really quickly.  Yeah, give up, yeah, not.   Time for the NBA playoffs and you can get in on the action right from Chipoff with Fandle right now. 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The Taraba State government has earmarked 4.7 billion era for pensions and gratuities in the 2022 budget to address the plight of retired civil servants in the state. The State Commissioner for Budget and Planning, Mr. Solomon Elisha, set out this as the breakdown of the 2022 budget briefing with newsmen in Jalingo. The 2022 budget has an opening balance of 350 million era. The State is also expected to spend the sum of 78.07 billion era on recurrent expenditure. Capital expenditure is projected to go up 71.71 billion era, while the sum of 83.2 million era was also budgeted for the State Library Board. This budget-tag bucket of home and consolidation was crafted in compliance with the International Public Sector Accounting Standard, IBSAS, and has adopted arguments of best practices as advocated by the Nigerian Governors for true mistakes, fiscal transparency, accountability and sustainability programs. The budget is well-guided by microeconomy assumptions as projected by the federal government of Nigeria in conjunction with NGF, below at a location made to ministries, departments and NGF administrative sector would have 44.24% with the Office of the Executive Governor, 11 billion, 327 million, 445,104,411,0 billion.


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my top five favorite flavors of bang energy. Hey what's up guys it's Josh here today I want to do a review of my top five bang energy flavors. Now bang energies is a drink that I tried a long time ago since then they've got tons and tons of hype. I've tried all of them pretty much except for the new strawberry delish one every single time they come out with one I try one and initially when I came across bang and they kind of blew up I tried every single flavor and in my opinion bang is just an amazing energy drink I really don't like artificial colors they have no artificial colors in there the caffeine content is pretty strong but it just really works well with bang I really enjoy it and on top of that bang has some insane flavors and they really have kind of revamped the energy drink game because of the really delicious unique flavors and a lot of other companies have gone out there and copied these flavors they've come out with their own variants and I really think just bang excels in it. Before I get into mine please put your favorite flavors down below for me I kind of like the crazy out there flavors that actually hit home I got my own taste I don't really like any of the Skittles flavors personally I'm not a big fan of the ones that taste like soda there is one on this list but overall just generally my personal taste I kind of like the crazy ones and it was to be honest it was really hard to pick I would say any of the top four kind of could be number one because I really like them all but let's jump into number five. My number five flavor is kind of like a tie I'm going to go with lemon drop because in my opinion I think lemon drop tastes like seven up and there's one called citrus twist too I think they're both very good to me I can remember more of lemon drop lemon drop just tastes to be honest kind of kind of like a seven up and it's the only full on kind of soda style variant that I put in there it just is so smooth so easy to drink and normally I like more of a punch besides my top four that was probably the easiest to drink was lemon drop. Number four I'm going to have to go with key lime pie now key lime pie is a new one a lot of the new flavors that come out with I'm just really not a fan of but I really really enjoyed key lime pie key lime pie to me has a lot of that similar soda style taste but it also has just a little bit of that oomph that you find in the more crazy flavor so I just really really really like key lime pie it's when I'm going for a soda style one I usually will go with key lime pie just a hair over lemon drop personally. Number three here we go answering the crazy flavors I'm going to have to go with number three is birthday cake bash now birthday cake bash is probably the weirdest most out there flavor it plays on a lot of the other flavors that I really enjoy though I always look forward to birthday cake bash and it's just a really really good tasting one it has a little bit of that birthday cake vanilla which is weird that they try to put that in there but it actually works out so number three I'm gonna have to go with birthday cake bash number two I'm gonna have to go with cotton candy now cotton candy I've just absolutely loved this flavor the entire time that I've tasted it I think it was the first flavor that kind of blew me away actually I've tried three different companies who have copied this cotton candy flavor actually very very successfully and it's very nice because the cotton candy flavors is some of my favorites in the other brands I know rain has straight cotton candy rockstar had some blue cotton candy one and then there's like the c4 smart energy that also has cotton candy they all taste good it's so close to being number one because I enjoy it so much I think a lot of other people enjoy it so so much but just because it was copied so much I'm gonna have to put it at number two and then guys number one again I could kind of go with all four of these but just for bang and the unique flavors I'm gonna have to go with number one as pina colada now pina colada to me it has a lot of that kind of out there insane style flavor that you get in cotton candy that you get in birthday cake bash but pina colada to me is just so so delicious it's so bang I guess birthday cake bash hasn't been done by their companies too but I just find that pina colada is just a hair more likeable more enjoyable I'm gonna have to say that is my favorite bang energy flavor but again put your favorite flavor down below I haven't tried the new strawberry delish kiss or something like that have not tried it so let me know how that one is down below let me know what your favorite is down below as well and I know I was talking to this one girl at Chipotle who said that she really just hated all my favorite flavors so I think she said she hated pina colada and then another one I like she said it just really isn't that good so everyone's got their own favorite flavors what's your favorite flavor do you love these flavors do you hate these flavors I'll be very interested to see down below run the road of 50,000 subscribers and I couldn't do without any of you guys so you guys are the best I'm having a great day out here hopefully having a great day at home see you on the next video peace and I always look forward to birthday cake but


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Hey, Jeff Frick here with theCUBE. We're in Palo Alto at the Chertoff event. It's called security in the boardroom. We're talking about the security conversations that need to happen in the boardroom, not just at the IT department and locking down your phone and your VPN. It's really, how do we elevate the conversation, especially as things continue to change? Digital transformation is forcing people to move quickly and everyone's becoming a digital company, right? All their assets are becoming digital. So it needs to, it needs to get elevated and we're excited to have our next guest. He's Paul Ferrell. He's the CEO of Nehemiah. Paul, welcome. Thank you. And joining us again, Jason Cook from the Chertoff who, Grayson, good to see you again. All right, so let's jump into it. So you're CEO, before we get it, first tell people about Nehemiah. Who aren't familiar with the company? Well, Nehemiah has a cybersecurity suite where we know, manage, and help protect organizations. And the knowing part is what we're probably going to talk more about today, which is our risk quantifier software. Your risk quant, well, let's jump in. What is risk quantifier software? We take a bottoms up look at the, at the organization to get a true copy, high fidelity copy of the corporate network. And then we layer business applications on top of it. So boards can get a look at what the business exposure is to the cybersecurity risks. So the network and the application. So very, very, very techie piece of it. So how much of in terms of the process and the people get filled into that piece as well? I mean, we call that process BIA or business impact analysis. And a lot of the Fortune 500 firms have already been doing this to be compliant with Sarbanes-Oxley and other regulations. And it's being able to work with them to take some of that information out of the system and combine it with the cyber information we have to give them a good look at risk. So if I'm looking to invest $2 million, what's my risk buy down? Is it 10 million? Is it 2 million? Is it nothing? I just need to do it. So these are some of the things that the questions we're trying to help boards answer. And I'm just curious from a, why do we need to do this point of view? How much of it is compliance and governance and regulation? And how much of it is not? It's just we need to protect ourselves from the bad guys. I'm curious, I would imagine, especially financial services and healthcare, a lot of it was driven by compliance before, but is that percentage going down? Go ahead. So I'd know not at all. Not at all. Still mainly governance, compliance, regulation. And what you have to bring together now is security, risk and compliance. It's all the one thing. And at the board level, you don't have those as separate agenda topics anymore. That's why we talk about a risk management program that especially the Fortune 500 boards are becoming very educated in and also, you know, actioning and taking forward. And that's really where that stuff comes together. So compliance, especially if you look at the finance industry, healthcare industry, for example, it's always going to be there because it's a duty of care as to the industry, how to run the business and to all of the consumers at the end of the day, at the end of that. So you need to better track that. And it's a very useful tool if you apply risk management to it and if you apply security to it and bring those things together, many CISOs will talk about situational awareness. And one of the things they need to do if they've got a seat at the board table is what do I have? What's my assets? And that's no longer just purely from a technical perspective. You know, you hear the phrase many organizations have technology silos that don't talk, that don't come together, perhaps different business units that are running those silos. And at the board level, how do you ascertain what you've got when you have an issue? And that situational awareness then is also going to help drive well, what priorities do I take when I have to take action? And so that's something that near my security is really focusing on.  But then how do you have actionable business intelligence that's gonna help you prioritize how to run that, how to secure it, but also how to invest and run your business through this journey. Right. You hear us say something? Yeah, I think it's the word that Jason uses a lot as a journey. And there's a lot of things we should be doing just because it's cyber hygiene and it's intelligent, it's what we should do to run our business by taking the business information and marrying what we get up. And then communicate it in language that the board knows which is key. Don't be talking about wanna cry viruses and all that and SMB ports and that doesn't make any sense to them. What they make is they make business decisions every day. So we're investing X and you take a risk profile over time and you say this will help reduce our exposure here but it's good and we need to do it. Whether compliance says it or not we need to be protecting our data. That's one of the things that, compliance is a checklist. And we need to make sure that's done and everybody does audit and financial statements and that's great, we should do it every year. But there's some things that are basic. We should, like in basic stuff and finance we should do basic stuff in cyber hygiene as well as updating our systems, keeping them current, educating our employees on scams and stuff that happened. These are things that need to happen over time. And so it's a journey for the board and for the senior management but for every employee to be able to know these things and to actually integrate it as part of their everyday job, in my opinion. Yeah and it sounds like the cyber hygiene stuff is still just not, we're not hygienic enough as we should be. It's amazing that that just continues to be a recurring theme. Absolutely and one of these sort of ethos approaches that Nehemiah has taken to this is they call it no. What do you know about your environment? And it starts there to say so, especially for an organization as many are now on a digital journey, or what is underpinning all of our digital footprint? Do you know that? And unfortunately so many organizations out there have bits of it but they don't maintain that. So when you have, for example, the famous WannaCry incident that kicked off, very, very large organizations as well as many small ones were impacted. Why? Because they didn't actually understand what they had and they didn't have the business intelligence and the business analytics to make a prioritization to say we need to invest our focus and time and effort here to respond to this activity from a hygiene perspective. And until those things are addressed, you're not actually gonna truly be able to go on your digital journey as an organization. So if anything, what this is doing is heightening the awareness at the board level that you need to have an articulated dialogue where at the board level you can understand the impact of the business or what's going on here but then take all of that and take all the knowledge that you're building to then drive actionable intelligence, business as well as technology coming together which underpins risk management in that context. Right, and I would imagine those types of incidents are helpful in terms of helping to define what is that risk. Tragically helpful. Tragically helpful, but still without those types of things it's probably harder to really monetize what is the risk so that I can come up with a portfolio that then I can validate my investment. Yeah, it's about being prepared. It's about thinking about what are your critical business systems? And so when you've got something happening no matter what it is, let's make sure the critical business systems are protected first and then we'll get to the less priority systems. It's not that they're not all important it's just that there's some that are more critical inventory systems or sales at the end of the quarter. It tends to be we find to be not only the systems but also the time of the year. If you're selling seeds March and April in North America is really big. If you're Amazon it's Christmas time, right? The inventory system in order entry system has got to be going so but it's taking that step back now and saying what are our critical business systems? What are the risks? And then the other thing that we also look at that we've talked to Jason about is what's the, we know what the risks are but what's the probability that those risks are gonna hit you? Everybody's not 100% so some people are 20%. So when you go to the board you gotta give them a true idea of this is a true risk that we're seeing and we've tempered it down by saying if it was 100 million a risk but you only have a 20% chance of getting that exploit then it's really just $20 million that we're talking about not 100 because the days are gone where we slam our hand on the board and say you must do this, you must do this. Boards are more cyber aware now than ever and they don't want to just pay people throw information at them. They want to understand it to be able to respond properly and not react. Right, so really the net net is speaking the language, right? Boil it down into language in the decision making process in which they're used to doing because it's not a zero sum game. It's not a one or zero anymore. It's really a probability decision and a risk assessment. Yeah, it happens over time. That's the whole thing. It's like there's ebbs and flows of the year and you look at things over time and I think that's the other thing that we like to talk about and it's renaissance. And one of the things that we talk is we talk with a lot of people and the chief information security officers are embracing us because they're looking for new ways to be able to communicate properly and succinctly to the boards and that's one of the big things that we see. Good, because when they get bumped up the agenda items on the board that's what you want to see, right? Absolutely. All right, well Paul and Jason, thanks for stopping by. I really appreciate the time. All right, I'm Jeff Rick. You're watching theCUBE. We'll see you next time. Thanks for watching.


I think a lot of the people who work in open education are optimists and are really thinking about access around financial access, especially with open textbooks and open access research. And I think if we just broaden that a little bit more about who are we including, broadening it just from financial access to broader that would include accessibility and people with disabilities, that it wouldn't be a stretch kind of from a philosophical standpoint and it would make the movement much more impactful. Education is not a privilege, it's a right. So if you can do as a faculty something that gives another student a chance to get access to your course or to your learning materials, then you are taking that lead to make sure that you are sharing knowledge with more people and make it more accessible. So that's why it's essential to think about it when you are planning your course or learning materials or the design of your courses. K-B-B-C stands for the Center for Accessible Post-Secondary Education Resources. We're funded by the Ministry of Advanced Education to provide service to students with print disabilities at 20 institutions across the province. So basically for students where the print textbook is a barrier, we put it into a digital format that they can use. If you look at it as an educator and instructor and designer to see how I can mix different parts of my course or content, more accessible, that would help students to actually in a way to be able to have different ways of interacting with the content and to be able to participate in the activity which at the end will enhance the whole learning and teaching experience. Often people start with sort of the technical specs. So WCAG 2.0 would be the technical spec for making digital content accessible. But I think if you start there it's pretty intimidating and people don't understand why they're doing all these sort of picky, maybe things that could be seen as being picky. I think instead it's better to start from a place of empathy for the different kinds of people in the classroom and to understand what their access needs are. If you're curious about why and you care about those people, then those kind of the technical questions and what do I need to do to make this accessible, you're more curious and you're more interested in the answers. The most common example that I like to give is on the sidewalk where there's a curb cut. The curb cut allows for people with wheelchairs to kind of access the sidewalk but it also makes it easier for people with strollers. If you're pushing a bike, if you're carrying a heavy load like on a cart, everyone can access the sidewalk. So it's by thinking of those things proactively it allows better access for everyone. So in the same way universal design for learning by thinking of where the digital curb cuts are in the classroom, we can allow better access for different kinds of learners including people with disabilities.


A legal practitioner, Barista Bollanli Olubani, has criticised the industrial court for ordering the striking lecturers to suspend their over seven months of industrial action and return to class. Olubani, who spoke exclusively with her correspondent Emmanuel Olubobokon, said the court's decision was a step backward in the process of resolving the impasse between the federal government and ASU. Olubani was a bit imbalanced in the sense that you can actually force a horse to the river but you cannot force it to drink. If you order the lecturers to go back to strike, lecturers whose salaries have been withheld for so long and orders should have been made to elicit the cooperation with the obedience to that order that their outstanding salaries to date should be paid. That should have been an incentive and a balanced approach to resolving the disputes at the interlocutory stage. Thereafter, a date should have been set for the decision or arguments concerning the merit of the case itself. It should be integrity. Based on revenue that the government is making, we can afford to pay X amount in the first year. We can afford to pay X amount in the second year. By four years, or five years from now, with your salary increase, we will be able to finish paying up. Why is that so difficult? Why is that so difficult? Yet money is being channelled into white elephant projects, loans have been obtained every day without the concomitant horizontal effect on what we can see and Nigeria is in such a huge debt and we are wondering all the money borrowed, all the money derived from internally generated revenue, where has it all gone?


Today, we are hanging out at Universal Studios, Orlando, and I am so excited the holiday season is upon us. Universal invited me out, so I can make a video and show you guys all of the amazing festivities that they're doing this year. We've got, of course, the Grinch, who I am so excited to meet, and then the Holiday Parade featuring Macy's. And I'm just so excited. This is one of my favorite things to do during the holiday season. So let's eat some food, ride some rides, and have a merry Universal Studios kind of day. Any hoos, let's go do this. Universal does such a great job for the holiday season, and it goes on from November 17th to December 31st, and the best part of all of it is it's included in your regular ticket admission. So you don't need to buy a special ticket or go to a private event to actually enjoy the holiday seasons at Universal Studios. The plan for today is to hang around the park a little bit, and then we're gonna go to a special reception where we're gonna get to try some of the holiday food that they're serving this year at Universal Studios Orlando. We're gonna get to meet the Grinch, Earl the Squirrel, and then we're gonna go watch the Grinch Miss Who holiday spectacular. And like I mentioned, that one's my favorite, and I'm gonna try to sit next to Max because I wanna see him. Like, he's there, I wanna see him. And then we're gonna watch the holiday parade and end the night over in Hogsmeade with some butter beer and the projection show on the castle. So it's gonna be a nice one. I'm excited to bring you guys and show you everything. Walking around Universal Studios with the Christmas music, all of the decorations. Look at the Christmas tree over there.  I feel like Universal Studios Christmas sits with me a little bit more because it's kind of what I pictured Christmas being like as a child, watching the Macy's Parade with my family and seeing the gigantic balloon floats. They're here, like we're gonna see those floats, like those big gigantic balloons. The Universal Tribute Store is already open, so we might as well head on in and see what they got going on in there. I always love going to the Tribute Store because they always put so much detail into it. Wow, I think this is my favorite area of the Tribute Store. Look at it in here. The music, the fireplace, the Christmas tree. I love how they create an experience, just the shop, you know? Makes you wanna stay in here and buy more things. Oh my Lord, look at this. Danger, closet is full. Much like everyone's closet when it comes to Christmas decorations. Look at, oh!  Honestly, look at how cool all of these photos are from Christmas's past here at Universal Studios. Look at down here, look at that. Or over here with Betty Boop. You got Woody Woodpecker over there. That's really cool. I'm a big multi-color lights fan. I love all the different colors and I like the old decorations, old school decorations, like 80s, 90s, Santa Claus, reindeer, stuff like that. Just, it gets me so happy and in the mood for Christmas. I love all of the decorations in this Tribute Store. This is by far probably one of my favorite Tribute Stores just because of the old school decorations. Look at this elf. Look at that candle right there. It's frightening but also merry. Oh, it is. One of my favorite memories is actually watching the Grinchmas Who holiday spectacular show with my mom and sister and them coming down here and being here for the Orlando Informer Meetup which is actually happening tonight too and I will be here for that as well. I'll be here all weekend for the Orlando Informer Meetup and I'll put a link in the description for that. If you ever wanna come to the parks and ride the rides without having to wait in line and basically have all the food included in your ticket price, then you're gonna wanna check out that event. And I have some videos too. I'll put all in the description. But one of my favorite moments is actually just spending time with my mom and sister here at Universal during the holiday season. We are all checked in and it's time to head on in for our special little reception and it's cool because we're actually going into the old Nickelodeon Studios and this is also where the Grinchmas show actually takes place and it's actually like inside the building right here. So I love it. I always say this but I feel like the Grinch meet and greet is the best meet and greet of all time. Like if there's any character in the world I would wanna meet like it would be the Grinch because he's just so awesome and because it's such a popular thing they were testing out a virtual queue for a while there and this year they decided to just get rid of the virtual queue and have a designated standby line and that way everybody gets to meet the Grinch. The sad part is that standby line is 180 minutes today. So we're gonna monitor and see how it is throughout the day but we're definitely gonna meet the big green guy himself. We are actually in the room right next to the Grinchmas theater. So we're gonna hang out in here and eat some of the food and even meet Earl the squirrel who is one of my favorite characters at Universal Studios. In fact, I feel like he's the icon of the holidays here at Universal Studios and we have all of the food that we can try. Look, we even have all the snacks over here. We've got the peppermint cakes. They've got a butter, a pecan, yule log right there. A peppermint mocha cake right there. Of course, the Grinch cookie. I love the Grinch cookies, those are my favorite. And then the vegan cookie butter snowflake. So might as well grab some snacks and wait for the show to start. I like that we're right next to the Grinchmas who, you know, it's also who-lollity, who-lollity. I always have a hard time saying it because I wanna say who holiday but I think it's who-loll-y, who-loll-y, who-loll-y. Yeah. That's next door. So we're gonna have our snacks here.  Who, Earl the Squirrel, is one of my favorite characters here at Universal because he was a squirrel that went into the Christmas tree and maybe might have nibbled on something he shouldn't have and he became kind of an icon. And we get to actually meet him here with the Grinch. Speaking of my favorite squirrel, here he is, Earl. How are ya? Having a good day? Excited for the holiday season? Oh, I love this shirt. I love acorns. Yes! I am so glad that we got to meet Earl the Squirrel. Like I said, I think he's so cool and I love his shirt and you can actually meet him. He's out and about in the park too. He has, I think, somewhere, a designated photo spot. And that's kind of new. I think it started last year and, like I said, he's just getting so popular. He's on merchandise. She saw him in the tribute store. Good for him, good for Earl. Oh, wow, look at these treats. They look amazing. I am so excited to dive in, especially with the Grinch cookie. This is one of my favorites because you can see his very tiny little heart right there. But he's got one. And also the cake looks pretty good. Honestly, I feel like every year the desserts get better and better. Of course, I have to actually wear the Grinch hat while I'm eating the Grinch cookie. And look at it, it's so soft. It's so very, like, sugary. I love it, look at it. It just, like, falls apart. It's like a pillow. Oh, look at it. Gonna eat the heart. Little cookie part first. Oh, so good. The Grinch cookie was delicious. Like always, I love that cookie. But now I wanna get into the peppermint mocha cake thing here. Oh, this isn't a cake cake. Well, it's kind of like a cake. It started raining a little bit outside so I had to come back inside now. But we gotta finish up and eat because the Grinch is gonna be coming soon. And then we're gonna head on in and watch the show.  So I'm sorry if it's not all together. And also I'm still holding the fork with the cake on it. So, cheers. This is actually so good. Very peppermintly. Very peppermintly? Peppermintly? I think that's the word. But anyways, I think we'll now try the pecan yule log. Get a little bit of that, a little bit of that. That's the way.  So, here we go. Wow, that is so good. I love it. Actually, out of everything, that was my favorite. And I got it even a little bit of the peppermint in there. So it's like a peppermint pecan. The peppermint pecan nutmeg. Nutmeg. I don't even know where I'm going with this. The food has been pretty amazing so far. And a lot of these desserts you can actually find throughout the park. Not in the tribute store. Like you can get the Grinchmas cookie over in Dr. Seuss Landing. And a couple of the other spots here, the bakeries on Universal's side. Like I said, I think the yule tied log, that was probably my favorite. And now I think it's time we head on in to Grinchmas. Ah, Lasha. Lora, Cardi, Brian, Wallace. You know, thank you all very much. I'm a victim. I don't need to mass. I'm going to go to Grinchmas. This is the greatest day of my life. All of our friends will be. Grinch will be over here with Max before any interviews Let me meet the media so to speak so good to see everyone and I say that Chonkastically and not from my heart what so ever Scratch me I know well, I'm just here for max and I figured if I kind of resembled the the mean You know you Yep Yeah Look at Max Oh, yes, thank you. I pet Max you can pet Max as long as you can look at me straight in the eye I love you Max, I love you too My day has been made number one I was allowed to pet Max which I didn't even think that was gonna be possible in number two The Grinch remembered me and he noticed that I came with a different hat because he said next time You better step up your hat game and bring a different hat and I did I did did you see that that was great? Wow max was everything. Sorry Grinch. You were good, too It's time to head into the show look at this. They've got Max's house right outside here. Oh, it's so nice in here Oh And the music's nice The production value for this show is so amazing and I love just showing off the theater Look at how amazing this stage is isn't it just beautiful like I said the production value for this show is like None other and this actually all moves. You'll see a lot of it. It's really it's something else This show features classic songs arranged by Chip Davis and Mankind steamroller the holidays are about sharing with others Asked that you open your heart and enjoy the Grinch this hoola day She had a passion for all things holiday the decorated committee was led by the lovely Twinkling lights aren't they just that? Oh, yes, Martha. Oh, forgive me, but Did I hear your sweet child mention that mean oh so So you keep saying Well, and the Grinch got an idea awful idea Grinch got a wonderful, awful idea. I know just what to do. Come on, Max Grinch laughed at his throat and they made a quick sentence about his hat and his coat and he chuckled at his plot What's a great gritty chick with this coat and this hat? I'll look just like Shane Nick. Boom. I'm speaking right Blast! It's a zero act! Quiet sleep filled the air. All the hoos were all breathing sleep dreams without care. When he came to the first house in the square, this is stuff number one. The old Grinch he claws hisst Then he climbs to the roof and peep bags and his feet. I can't do it. What's next? On the chimney.  Can we skip ahead? But if Santa could do it. Then so could the Grinch. Oh, Santa could do it! They're triglics, they're puzzles. He took their pantuclers, they're dad's lids, they're wuzzles. He cleaned out that icebox as quick as a flash. Why, that Grinch even took their last hand of the ash. I got it. Then he stuffed all the presents up the chimney with glee. And down. Grinch the Grinch. I was stuffed up the tree. So the Grinch grabbed a tree and he started to shout when he heard a small sound like the coup of a dove. And he thought it up quick. Why, why, sweet little heart. The face, Santa Claus lies. You're not helping. It's all night on my side. So I'm taking it back home to my workhouse right here. I'll fix it up there and then I'll bring it back here. They're just waking up and I know just what they'll do. Their mouths will hang open. I'll put it on him. Then all the food. Then I'll cry. Boo! Now that's a noise. Grinch the Grinch. Then I simply must. So he paused. And the Grinch put a hand to his ear. Rising over the snow. It started in love. Then it started to grow. But this sound wasn't sad. Why, this sound sounded merry. It couldn't be so. But it was merry. Very. Grinch the Grinch. Perhaps. And what happens then? Well in Whoville they say the Grinch's small heart grew three sizes that day. I don't know. You see, I was just like. I took your back to there. Your back. I was like. Yeah. Cindy Lou. I love you Max. Welcome Christmas. Bring your chair. Oh my Christmas. I want you to bring all my love. We talked to someone down below the stage. And it was really cool. But I love this show. It gets me all teary eyed. And my mom loves it too. And her name's Cindy Lou. Now it's time. We start making our way into and get ready for the holiday parade featuring Macy's. I'm so excited. It's still daylight out in the rain. Seems like keeping away. So we might have a nice parade. People are lining up to get good spots. Honestly this parade is so good because the balloons are so high. And you can see it even when you're not in the front. Or when you're like steps back. The music. Wow. Woo. I'm feeling great guys. It's not hot out. We got a nice little cold breeze.  Merry Christmas to you. This is a nice spot for the parade. And now we're just going to wait around. And then once we get done here we're going to head over to Hogsmeade and Islands of Adventure. And we're going to see the Hogwarts projection show. Oh 15 minutes. Look at them. Mice over there aren't holding the balloons. Best part of the parade. It's so good. They don't like the tree until that moment. And it's amazing. Watching the parade from right in this area. The bad part is it's a little difficult to get on. Once you get in here. Head on over to Hogsmeade. Wow. That was great. It's the music that gets me. I'm telling you. And then like that tree lighting. That's perfection. Of course we've got to get ourselves some butter beer to close out the night. And watch the projection show on Hogwarts Castle. Look at that. Man. Nothing quite like coming to Universal during the holidays and hanging out in Hogsmeade. Oh wow. Look at the castle. What a great reveal. Look at that. I cannot believe you're going to pass this. I'll take one. Oh yes. That is the way. Thank you. Great hot butter beer got the show. Oh no. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Hey guys. Who needs a butter beer? Oh today. Sorry. I think we could have asked for a better way to end the night. I don't think we could have asked for a better way to end the night. A little butter beer. A little projection show. Man I really wish they could do fireworks at Universal. I know they probably couldn't because there's so many neighborhoods around the area. But like if they could do an actual amazing job at it. But yeah. Any hoos. I think it's time to call it a night. Let me know what you guys think of the holiday season here. I love it. Like I said it's great that it's free. Like if you buy a ticket you get all that included with it. You don't have to buy anything extra. Unlike Mickey's very merry Christmas party or Jollywood or even a lot of other the other theme parks. They do special ticketed Christmas events but not Universal. Like that. So yeah. Hope you enjoyed the video. I enjoyed making it. And we'll see you next time. Bye. Guess who I got to meet today? I got to meet Max. I did. Let me scratch the top of your head. Just like that.