Aloha, Owinala, I'm Kaui Lukas, host of Hawaii is my mainland, off the grid and on the bright side of life in these islands, live streamed Fridays at 3 p.m. And then, all our shows are accessible for the foreseeable eternity on YouTube and on iTunes as a podcast. Tomorrow, April 1st is the opening of Contact 37 team, the fourth annual Jury Exhibit of Contemporary Art, exploring the notion of contact as it relates to the Hawaiian Islands, its people, and their experiences. This year's theme is Hawaii in a Thousand Years, thus 3017. In addition to the juried works, there are a few invited artists, and my guest today, Charles Velaroso, is one of them. Charles grew up on Kauai, then did his formal art training at California College of the Arts. Charles was one of the pioneers in turning downtown Honolulu into the creative heart of the city in the early 1990s, before Mark's Garage and First Fridays and High Sam. But for many years now, he has been living in the Bay Area, and I am happy to welcome him home. Hello Charles. Hello, great to be back. So you were lured here through the the art that is behind us. Tell us about about the background here. Well a couple of weeks ago, I got a call from, well a call, an email from Josh, thank him as a curator for Contact 3017, and he said that we're going to use your painting on loan from the Hawaii Tell to use as a matrix for this futuristic show depicting Hawaii as seen by visionary artists of Hawaii. It's a juried show, I'm in because I'm in. And like I said, the painting was done 35 years ago in 1982 for the 1983 Centennial Celebration for Hawaii Tell Comm, also known as Hawaii Telephone back then. And right now, when I look back on it, it looks a little dated, but it's sort of on target because I was trying to project 100 years from 1983 to 2083. And I had called the painting Hawaii in 2083, and here we are at 2017. And look at it, we've got everything that your hearts desire in the high-tech industry, except we have also the element of humanity with Kikiokaida there and the iconic seashell projecting the sounds of the sea and using your imagination to foster a lot of ideas. And that's kind of what my whole platform is about being an artist. Okay, so let's go into your history a little. Your small kid time happened to be near Lihue. Born and raised in Lihue, right across Lihue Theater. Back in the 50s, when I was born in 1950, so you know how old I am, we had camps. And basically the camps were set up to furnish workers with being in close proximity to the mills or the sugar fields that they worked in. Both my parents were immigrants from Ilocosur in the Philippines. And my dad came as one of the earlier wave, the first or second wave in 1926. I think the first wave came in 1906 from the Visayas. Fourteen men and they were probably the pioneers for you know being the cane cutters and all that. But my dad came in the 20s at age 17 and never went back. But my dad was kind of an artist. He was a musician and his dream was to become like an orchestra player. He had a band, you know, during the swing era. And he came to play on Hotel Street and the dance clubs that they had back in those days. But his day job was still working in the fields and later on in the sugar factory. So my whole background growing up until I left in 1968 was focused in that Lihue plantation camp. Well that's something we share, although I had to leave the plantation. I have a plantation in my case when it was sold to Kassel and Cook and my dad had to have a different job. But there is something absolutely magical about the sugar cane industry as it was. It gets a bad wrap and there were certainly times when it was was awful and deserved that wrap. But there was beauty in it too. They were these lovely communities and the way that people related to each other. At least my memory as a child was beautiful. But let's talk about the art. When I met you, you were really pounding the pavement around here in Honolulu. Well making Honolulu downtown Chinatown. You know this happening art place and it was sort of the well the first wave I know of maybe there was one before that tried to do that and you had the gallery on Hotel Street, 81 Hotel Street. Boom gallery. Boom gallery. And then you recreated is this that boom gallery that we're looking at here? That was a show in Alamoa Center based on the Aloha shirt that Dale Hope had put together. But I was doing Hawaiian shirts back in the early 80s even as far back as my first years at school. So when I saw the exhibit it was perfect to just have a little photo opportunity. But no it's not my gallery but it's the exhibit they had last August and Alamoa picked into a fashion industry for the Aloha shirts. And Aloha shirts. 40s and 50s yeah. Yeah you were doing the Aloha shirt paintings.  They're gorgeous. We have a picture of I took one of my favorite paintings that has the flying fish. So it's the one where the images are flying off the shirt. Yeah well it overlaps with all the different styles and you know I was searching for my vision or voice as they say the arts. And I did explore with a lot of different techniques and so-called movements that started off in the 60s throughout the 90s until today. And with each succession of phases and you know movements that I had adhered myself to like it all overlapped and became part of this growth and evolution for what it started off doing when I first got interested in the arts back in the 50s when I was in elementary school. I knew I was going to be an artist since second grade. There was a little question about it. Why? That could be a whole. Well I had a lot of encouragement. I attended parochial school was Catholic and we were in the middle of the Cane field in Lihue. And somehow the teachers the nuns were strict in fact but they were sort of like very creative in the sense that they believed in creativity in the arts because I guess a lot of them came from Europe. My teachers who were nuns came from France and Belgium and they all spoke with these like European accents and they used to give us little renaissance what they call holy pictures. And that was my introduction to art back in those days looking at Michelangelo you know paintings from the you know the Sistine Chapel and all that. And then I got involved with like I said the growth of the things that were happening to Hawaii in the 60s right after statehood particularly surfing and the West Coast culture. And you went to school in California as well? Yeah 1968 I left for Oakland in California it was known as the California College of Arts and Crafts back in the 60s and then it changed the California College of the Arts when they started evolving more into architecture and you know writing and design. So the focus now is more on design and high tech. Back when I was in school there was a bunch of hippies and we were doing pottery and that sort of thing but I explored every facet of what was to become my future profession and I really can't put a label on what I do. I just call it multimedia I guess because I've done everything from traditional painting and drawing to video and 3D things like architectural. Yeah we have I have a smattering one of the earlier phases also was the SF MoMA cars I was just picking that up as one of the so highly stylized and was that acrylic or what was what was that? Those are watercolors. Watercolors wow. Well actually that whole style originated when I started off at the California College of Arts and Crafts. It was the post pop art era around the mid to late 60s when commercial imagery was starting to infiltrate the fine art realm of museums and that sort of thing with Andy Warhol, Lichtenstein and a lot of the New York artists. So on the west coast was this sort of like nebulous underground of other artists that were reacting to all of the abstract expressionist movements and then pop art and some New York dealers started you know calling this new movement new realism and what they did is like they were painting from photographs almost religiously what they saw and depicted it in oils or watercolors or acrylics. Okay so I saw this one that has the look it's the beach scene with the two binoculars right I was like is that a painting or a picture a photo I could I could not tell and it didn't say so what what is that?  The reason I sort of attached myself to this particular image is that when I got there in 1968 I found out I had a cousin who was born and raised in San Francisco he was a surfer and they all hung around Ocean Beach which is called Kelly's Cove where the original playland used to be near the cliff house and we used to hang out there and you know just like any other surf crowd in our cars and stuff like that and listen to Santana and smoke weed you know there was the 60s right and down the street was like the Golden Gate Park and it was just about a year from the hippie summer of the 8th Ashbury yeah so I I sort of like landed in that universe during my first years at art school was either that or get shipped off to Vietnam and oh wise choice oh yeah I immediately um you know had to scramble to find out what my talents were and originally I wanted to be a force ranger and major in forestry and probably come back to Kauai but I ended up in our school well I'm certainly grateful that you did let's take a little break and then talk about why you're here in Honolulu now. 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There's a bunch of stuff here Think Tech this is just another one take a chance on it see how you like it thanks for watching. Welcome back to Hawaii is my mainland I'm Kauai Lucas with me here today is the artist Charles Villarosa who is a native of Kauai but has been hanging out in the Bay Area for quite a while now. He was lured back to Honolulu this time as he is one of the invited artists to the Contact 3017 show which will open tomorrow April 1st it's at the Honolulu Museum of Art School and tomorrow's opening which is from five to nine will celebrate here and now with music by Davie Schindig food trucks and Shakati as well as Ava so I love this about it bring your own drinking cup and forks they are going way sustainable or no use your hands to eat and mindfulness for the future I gotta go even if you weren't even if your piece wasn't going to be on how big is the original of this piece by the way 36 inches by 24 which scaled down to a double truck fold over for the then 1983 telephone cover they don't have telephone cover anymore well they do but they all end in the trash and because they're you're not allowed to recycle it let's not go down that road let's keep focus and let's keep focus and talking about the Honolulu Museum of Art School I remember years ago I saw an amazing show that you were part of and I'm going to butcher the name so I'll just let you say it kind of on your presence 1993 yeah it was a consortium of Filipino based artists that was an international you know like exhibit from New York to the Philippine islands and we were based in Hawaii that in 1993 there seemed to have been a paradigm shift in the Filipino culture I don't know what to spur it on but it could have been a lot of different things happening politically yeah I was gonna say post Marcus you know like Marshall Law in the 80s and then Governor Kaitana being elected and a lot of newer people from the Philippines that were professionals that moved to Hawaii that weren't agrarian based on workers they're professional nurses lawyers you know writers and artists and that sort of thing so we sort of started Kaimungi presence as an underground thing to just kind of get you know works out there but in the process we found out that a lot of other artists in LA New York were doing the same thing and somehow we just sort of you know used Hawaii as kind of this magnet and did this show in 1993 I remember it being somewhat edgy told me edgy because Manuel Ocampo is kind of like the rising you know like blue chip artist star back in the early 90s was emerging out of LA and I actually saw his work in Los Angeles you know and the temporary contemporary museum back in I think the early or late 80s and he was part of the show called Helter Skelter and I couldn't figure out if he was Mexican or Latino or Hispanic and would have asked him to go comp on his imagery there was like a lot of indie windows that had to do with the Philippine culture and a year later he started really rocking the boat in the art world he got invited to document in Germany and you know caused quite a controversy so it kind of put the artists that were Filipino heritage on the map the art world map anyway so you've expanded that that vision so somehow in in doing that it sounds like you got you worked on that part of your identity as an artist of Philippine heritage and it seems to have expended to be more specific wide exactly well you know what what are you it's about years since um that first show yeah and um I have I have a picture of that recent one in in Oakland right um that was done uh in 19 I'm spine 2015 and uh what was the name of that piece it starts with an oh thank you which is which means prayer or offerings and as I mentioned to you earlier it had to do with the Dia de los Muertos um celebration annually that the Mexican culture has um put on for centuries except this is a a Pacific Islander uh version of it I mean we have objects that are are Catholic evidently and they're ploy pounders and and kappa right well I I had mentioned to the curators who had invited me to this exhibit um that it's not quite um a specific ethnic group from you know the Philippines or Polynesia I I've been exploring the whole concept of identity for practically my entire you know career whether it was Hawaiian or Filipino or being American I mean um this is hybrid as you can get and I'm neither in fact I have a thing about the word Filipino because it has to do with colonization I mean it it was derived from King Philip colonizing the archipelago 400 years ago wow yes and people don't really realize that so Filipino itself is like being called American or Canadian or you know um European it's just this blanket um identity that they gave to the people of the archipelago say the north was Luzon and then you have the Visayas and Mindanao now all this information never got taught to us in in school books when we were growing up but thanks to the internet I just started really you know opening up the the floodgates and researching a lot since my interest in the Pacific region um sort of like you know keeping my radar as early back as like I said you know the the 60s but it sort of was the definitive moment where I could really have focus and really have clarity about what I was researching to make my art make sense because it's all abstract to begin with right well and speaking of abstract um I I now want to move us a little bit into the Kaimanahila the diamond painting um which is um geometric but abstract right um so tell us about this well diamond head I I lived in the diamond head area for practically all my life when I moved to um Oahu after high school and uh this might sound kind of like you know uh cosmic but the first place I landed was diamond head crater on New Year's Eve we claim uh I had I had roommates in California at CCAC back then that were from Aina Haina and they're all surfers a lot of people know Keone Downing he's a champion and Ronnie Cegara who was friends with like you know a lot of the people like Jared Lopez and Victor Lopez and you know they had this whole contingent of people that lived in that area and the first um New Year I spent in Aina Haina straight out of shoots from art school was um you said at the Diamond Head Crater Festival in 1973 I think I don't remember so they had this illustration of this uh barely sort of looking iconic god is coming out of the crater and I like the illustration and everything so I thought I'm going to look for this guy and I want to work with him you know so Diamond Head became sort of this very iconic um symbol for me uh in my transition to Honolulu okay but this is very geometric um I'm just wondering what that well it's it's it's an abstraction of um a cut diamond and um Diamond Head is sort of like a worldwide symbol you know but people don't understand that it's also a sacred place like it's Liahi uh the birthplace of you know like um the goddess um Kaimanahile I think her name was she was a sister of Belly there's something that goes along with that legend anyway and um being being in the surf culture I used to hang on that Kaimanahile beach and you know paddle around um Doris Dukes and the whole coast we called it Gomer's pile at the time we called you know Doris Dukes or Old Man's okay Old Man's they still call it Old Man's anyway um I was going through this phase um recently only two years ago where I was living in California and um I was always like you know feeling the Hawaii vibe constantly and I thought how can I translate my feelings for Hawaii but still make it relevant to the mainland and contemporary art so I took the diamond as an icon and I started expanding on it and I just did this thing from January 1st 2015 painting one diamond a day oh and these paintings are very tiny the largest is about eight by ten but I have 365 um diamond paints variations of it and also like variations of the water reflections those are beautiful yeah yeah so I also found some um one of the things you've mentioned a couple of shows that group shows that and their sort of movement their sort of community building um getting together with people of um with something either in common Filipino ancestry or in the in the case of the deos de los montes that it's something else but um I found so you were helping this group in um in California the Harper for Kids doing so this is another I just liked it because it's so different it's like okay well now he's doing graffiti well it was like um Harper for Kids is basically a uh mural project that a friend of mine whose wife is peanut louis a tennis champion and she's from San Francisco and they created this book called um Inchen Miles which was based on coach John Wooden from UCLA and he had this philosophy about the pyramid of success but he was a coach at the basketball coach at UCLA so anyway um the book became a roaring success so um they started using that platform to educate kids about being successful without having to be so academically uptight so we did this mural based on the 15 points of what constitutes success and all those building blocks from the base to the apex um being that being successful successful is being your personal best there's no gauge in terms of you know points from zero to 100 it's like if you're a 24 and that's your best that's it you're it okay well I want to talk about in our last 30 seconds okay nation of poi I love this nation of poi um was inspired by Barack Obama we finally got a multicultural president and I'm glad to say that I did my um years in California from the day I got there um under Obama's watch and I thought if there's a number one toy dog in the world brother oh is all about being a toy dog so I keep up with that that acronym called Pacific Ocean Islander and it shouldn't compass everybody who loves the Pacific who's part of the entire Pacific Rim and okay and this one so we're gonna end on this this is amazing I love that was a fun shot okay okay so tomorrow April 1st 5 to 9 at the Honolulu Museum of Art School people can come and see it for real right the original painting and see the real deal with what I presume the future of Hawaii will be about back to the roots yeah


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So, I'm passionate about a couple of things that have been talked about today. One is that economic transformation, the other is decentralisation. So passionate, in fact, that I decentralised my leg in a skiing trip recently. And what we're all about at centrality is taking those things and making them available for everyday people. One of the biggest challenges we see with decentralised technology and blockchains is that it's not very easy to use, it's not friendly. And a lot of the time the default answer to that in this community is to let's just centralise most of it and put a little bit into the decentralised space. And we want to really change that paradigm and allow people to participate in a decentralised economy in a decentralised way without having to think about it. You don't go to the app store, download an app and think about which data centre is this in, is this hosted on Amazon's cloud or Google's cloud. You just simply start using the app. And we want decentralised apps to be the same as that, that same kind of experience. So we've got now 30 or so projects, more than 300 people in six countries working on the hard problems to make that stuff accessible to everybody out here who's got great ideas about decentralising. We believe that the next technology evolution is taking the technology that's owned by corporations and giving ownership back to communities. We think the next technology revolution is respecting our digital identities and having a privacy-oriented economy.  So, if you're interested in that, if you think it's time to undo the status quo, to undo, to unravel, to unpick, will we have the tools and the technology to bring about that change? We call on you, the developers, the businesses, the investors, the forward thinkers, with all the unbelievable ideas you've been told will never work. Together, we can undo what's been done. We can create something fair for everyone. Let's undivided communities. Let's uncommercialise data. Let's untangle the threads of institutionalisation. Because from here on in, it's business unusual and a world unfucked. So, I'd just like to give back a little bit. Our kōhā here, we've got a couple of people from centrality in the audience, if Jerome and Phil can stand up. If you've got ideas you want to talk about in the world of decentralisation, we have a great amount of resources and technology and economics and academic research. We've got incubator programs, investment programs. If you've got an idea that wants to bring about decentralisation in mass-market consumer spaces, come and talk to us. We're going to do a lot of the heavy lifting to fix a lot of those problems that Fred talked about earlier and Josh talked about earlier to make it simple for you to build these applications just like Kay Marie's doing with us. So, come and have a chat. We'll do what we can to help. Thanks, guys.


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From around the globe, it's theCUBE with digital coverage of Postgres Vision 2021, brought to you by EDB. Well, good day, everybody. John Wall is here on theCUBE. We continue our coverage here at Postgres Vision 2021, talking today with Andy Harris, who is the Chief Technology Officer at Osirium, a leader in the privileged access management space. And Andy, good day to you. Thanks for joining us here on theCUBE. Good morning to you and good afternoon. Yes. That's right. Joining us from overseas or in England, we're on this side of the big pond, but nonetheless, we're joined by the power of Zoom. So again, thanks for the time. Andy, for those who aren't familiar or watching about Osirium, share a little bit about your various service levels of what you provide, the kind of solutions you provide and how you've achieved the great success in this space. Okay, I know these things are mildly boring, so I'll just put a little slide up now, which is the minimum I think I can get away with, which is that we're all about managing privilege. So that's privilege at the end point, privilege access management, and privilege process automation. So wherever a sysadmin has to do something on a machine that needs privilege, we like to be involved. Obviously, we like to be able to delegate it all the way down to the business functions with privilege process automation. And with the EDB or the BDR part of that functionality in EDB, that really fits into our privilege access management. So what I'll do, just to take you away from our products, I'll just quickly show you a slide of the architecture, which is as simple as we have these nodes, if you like, running EDB BDR, and they can perform logins to a target device using privileged credentials, which we control and we make them really long up to about 128 characters. So Andy, if you would, I think you would put together a little show and tell you a demonstration for how, when these systems are perhaps under siege, if you will, that there are ways in which obviously you've developed a counter this and to be able to continue secure communications, which in the privileged access world, as you know, is paramount. Yes, indeed. So I'll show you another slide, which gives you a kind of an overview of everything that's going on. In the, you're going to see a little demonstration of two nodes here that have the BDR technology on, and they can make these logins and we have these characters, Bob and Allison. I've just noticed that our marketing department have changed Alice to Allison. It should really be Alice because you get Bob Alice Carol Day, which are the standard encryption users. And what we're going to do is we're going to demonstrate that you can have breaks in the network. So I'm just showing the network break slide. I'm showing the second network break slide. And then we have this function that we've built, which we're going to demonstrate for you today, which is called evil beatings. And what it does is whilst there is a partition in the network, we are going to refresh many thousands of times the credentials on the target device. And then we're going to heal the break in the network and then prove that everything is still working. So right now I'm going to zoom over to my live connection, terminal connections of the machine and I'm going to run this command here, which is opython EB3. And I'm going to put 100 cycles in it, which is going to do around about 10,000 password refreshes. Okay, and I'm then going to go over to Chrome and I should have a system here waiting for me. And in this system, you'll see that I've got the device demo and I've got this command line SSH. And if I click on this, I've got a live connection to this machine. Even whilst I have a huge number of queued up, and I will just show you the queued up connections through the admin interface, this system is working extremely hard at the moment. And in fact, if I show you this slide here, you can see that I have all of these queued credential resets and that is giving our system an awful lot of grief. Yet I can go back to the device connection and it is all here, let's do a top. Why not? And as you can see, it is all working perfectly. And if I was a user of EDB, I think that's to be one of the demonstrations I'd be interested in because it's one of the first things that we did. When we dropped that functionality into our products, we wanted to know how well it would work under extreme conditions because you don't think of extreme conditions as normal working, but whenever you have 10 nodes in different countries, there will always be a network break somewhere and someone will always need to be refreshing passwords, a ridiculous rate of knots. So, Andy, let's talk about this just kind of the notion that you're providing here this about accountability and visibility, auditability, all these insights that you're providing through this kind of demonstration you've given us, how critical is that today, especially when we know there are so many possible intrusions and so many opportunities with legacy systems and new apps and all this? I mean, talking about those three pillars, if you will, the importance of that and what we just saw in terms of providing that peace of mind that everybody wants in their systems. That's a cracking question. I'm going to answer that question. Legacy systems, that's a really good question. If you are, we have NHS, which is our national health service and we have hospitals and you have hospitals, every country has hospitals and the equipment that they use like the MRI scanners, the electron microscope, some of the blood analysis machines, the systems in those cost multiple brilliance of dollars, or should we use euros, dollars, pounds and the operating systems that run in those systems, the lifetime of that piece of equipment is much, much longer than the lifetime of an operating system. So we glibly throw around this idea of legacy systems and to a hospital, that's a system that's a mere five years old and it's got to be delivering for another 15 years. But in reality, all of this stuff gets, acquires vulnerabilities because our adversaries, the people that want to do organizations, bad things, ransomware and all the rest of it, they are spending all their time learning about the vulnerabilities of old systems. So the beauty of what we do is being able to take those old legacy systems and put a zero trust safety shell around them and then use extremely long credentials, which can't be cracked. And then we make sure that those credentials don't go anywhere near any workstations. But what they do do is they're inside that EDB database encrypted with a master encryption key and they make that jump just inside the zero trust boundary. So that Bob and Alice outside can get administration connections inside for them to work. So what we're doing is providing safety for those legacy systems. We are also providing an environment for old apps to run in as well. So we have something called a map server, which I didn't think you'd ask us that question. I'd have to find you some slides or presentations, which we won't do. We have a map server, which is effectively a very protected window server and you can put your old applications on them and you can let them age gracefully and carry on running.net 3.5 and all those old things. And we can map your connection into that old application and then map those connections out. But in terms of the other aspects of it is that hospitals stay open 24 hours a day, banks run 24 hours a day and they need to be managed from anywhere. And we're in a global pandemic, people are working from home. That means that people are working from laptops and all sorts of things that haven't been provisioned by central IT and can all have all sorts of threats and problems to them. And being able to access at any time is really important. And because we are changing the credentials on these machines on a regular basis, you cannot lose one. And it's absolutely critical.  It just can't be done. And if you have a situation where you've just updated a password and you've had a failure, one of those 10 nodes has the correct set of credentials. And when the system heals, you have to work out which one of the 10 it is and the one that did it last must be the one that updates all the other 10 nodes. And I think the important thing is as a Syriam we have the responsibility for doing the updates and we have the responsibility for tracking all those things. But we hand the responsibility of making sure that all the other 10 nodes are up to date. We just drop it into bi-directional replication and it just happens. And you've seen it happen. I mean, maybe just for the fun of it, I will go back to that demonstration Chrome. And you can see we're still connected to that machine. That's all still running fine, but we could go off to our management thing, refresh it and you see that everything there is successful. I can go to a second machine and I can make a second connection to that device. Yet in the meantime, that password has been changed.  Oh, I need to be on a slightly different device. I was gonna do a reveal password for you. Oh, I'll make another connection. But the passwords will be typically, do a top on that just to create some more load. But the passwords will typically be, I'll come back to me, they'll typically be 128 characters long. And if I could, I mean, because I think you're really showing this very complex set of challenges that you have these days, right? In terms of providing access to multiple devices across multiple networking challenges. When you talk to your prospective clients about kind of how this security perimeters changed, right? It's very different now than it was four or five years ago. What are the key points that you want them to take away from your discussion about how they have to think about security and access, especially in this day and age, when we've even seen here in the States, right? Some very serious intrusions that I think certainly get everybody's attention. That's a great question, again. There are, the way that I would answer that question would definitely depend on the continent that I was talking to. But my favorite answer will be a European answer. So I'll give you a European answer. One of the things that you're doing when you come along and provide privilege access management to a traditional IT team is you're taking away the sysadmins right now before privilege access. They will know the passwords. They will be keeping the passwords in a password vault or something like this. So they own the passwords. They own the credentials. And when you come along with a product like privilege access management, you're taking over management of those credentials and you're protecting those systems from a whole wide range of threats. And one of those threats is from the system administrators themselves and they understand that. So what I would say is an interesting question because I'm thinking, I've got two ways of answering. I can answer as if I'm talking to management or as if I'm talking to the people who are actually going to use the product. And I feel more aligned with the, I feel more aligned with the actual users. Yeah, I think we'll focus on that and I'll let you know we just have a moment or two left. So if you could maybe boil it down for me a little bit. Okay, so boiling it down, I would say, now look here sysadmins, it's really important that you get your job done but you need to understand that those privileged accounts that you're using on those systems are absolute gold dust if they get into the hands of your adversaries and you need protection to keep them away from those adversaries. But we trust you and we are going to get you the access to your machines as fast as possible. So we're a little bit like a nightclub bouncer but we're like the Heineken of nightclub bouncers. When you arrive, we know it's you and we're going to get you to your favorite machine logged on as the main admin as fast as possible. And while you're there, we're going to take a session recording of you and just keep you safe and on the right side. All right, so I'm going to enjoy my night in the nightclub. Now I can sleep easy tonight knowing that Andy Harris and Osirium are on the case. Thanks Andy. Andy Harris speaking with us, the Chief Technology Officer from Osirium as part of our Postgres Vision 2021 coverage here on theCUBE. From the CUBE studios in Palo Alto in Boston, connecting with thought leaders all around the world, this is a CUBE conversation.


Furrier, we have a great guest now from Edmunds.com, right? Gregory Rokita, is that how you pronounce your name? He's the director of software architecture at Edmunds. You guys know Edmunds, right? Every time you go buy a car, you hit Edmunds, and you try to figure out what the invoice cost is, what other people are paying, what features are you? Mix and Match is a fantastic website. So welcome to the Cube. Thank you very much. It's great to be here. Yeah, so get nice and close here so the audience can hear you. So now, let's see, Gregory, why don't we start? Tell us a little bit more about Edmunds and what your role is there, and then we'll get into what you're doing with the Duke. So Edmunds is the largest website to empower automotive consumers to make decisions. We provide a plethora of information about cars and vehicles. You make model information options, colors, and pricing. So when people go to our site, they're able to find the best deal. We can direct the consumer to the dealers, and we try to help them as much as we can in their purchasing decision. Right, and Edmunds makes money, what, through a combination of advertising and referrals? Advertising referrals. And we're pursuing right now a tier three, which is direct dealer relationships. So that's a big effort that we're currently trying to pursue. As I say, it's a very useful service, many of us, if not most of us, use it. Talk about your data challenge. So we had a really great talk yesterday. We had a lot of great questions afterwards. And the message that I try to communicate to people is that the technology changes so rapidly. And also, the other fact is that the new data stores and the new applications come up so rapidly that you have to position yourself to take advantage of those things. So when Hadoop and HBase came along and we decided, well, we need to use it for our business analytics, we were like, how do we do it? But we already invested so much time in our publishing architecture that allows us to move the data from the source system to the destinations that we were able to do a plug and play. So we didn't have to invest a lot of effort into taking advantage of the new technology. So I would give advice to others. Take care of your integration. Take care of the system that allows you to move the data easily with your enterprise. Take us through that. I mean, how did you do that? So obviously, you have an existing system. And one of the beautiful things about Hadoop and HBase, as you mentioned, it's new.  So take us, walk us through that process. So before even we started using Hadoop and HBase, we tried to separate our data sources from our destination applications. So instead of using databases on the website, we tried to use more modern technologies, like coherence and solar. And instead of doing a tight coupling between our source database and our destination, which caused a lot of problems, we invested a lot of effort in our publishing infrastructure. So we were able to publish our source data independently into different destinations. So when Hadoop came along and HBase came along, we just pretty much reused that system to populate the data into those destinations. So you hear from Mike Olson and others, Amaro Delos and the Cube yesterday. Basically, one of their design objectives, which you could drop in Hadoop into your existing IT infrastructure. Exactly. And I heard that. And I said, hm, I wonder if that's real.  Yes. And that just sped our development dramatically.  And now it's a matter of weeks. So we spent a lot of effort to make it generic. In a way where a new data set comes along, we can just pull it in easily into the Hadoop and HBase. So part of the effort was, how do we make our development agile? And a lot of people say, well, data warehousing is not really agile. It's really hard to apply. It's kind of arcane technology. But once you bring Hadoop into the picture, you realize that your data warehousing and business intelligence becomes kind of like another regular development platform. And you can take advantage of a more agile methodology. So you're saying, in a way, that Hadoop has agileized your existing EDW? Exactly. Can you give us some more detail on that? Because I have the same reaction, enterprise data warehousing is cobbled together. It's slow. It's hard. It's painful. I'll tell you another anecdote. So we're actually hiring people. And we had this job description that had a lot of ETL terms and kind of data warehousing. And we didn't get in much traction. So we're like, let's just rewrite it a little bit. Let's add a little bit of spice to it. So we put big data, Hadoop, and all of a sudden we get all this resumes. And it's the same job. So it's like, you know, those little things, an image sometimes, but it's not just that. It's a cool factor with Hadoop, because people want to be on the cutting edge. But we talked with the guy from Hedat, from Yale University. He said it's really cool because you can talk about theory and then build it fast. So people want that in this new market. Yeah, exactly. How many people did you hire? Well, we're just getting a lot of resumes. So we're going through the process. But you're lucky. A lot of people are trying to find that. And it's hard to find these data scientists now. And are you finding the same kind of challenge with data science? To us, it's trying to kind of align that the data warehouse with other kind of groups within the company that already moved past. And we're able to kind of take advantage of those agile approach and design thinking approach. Edmunds is kind of trying to stay on top of the latest and greatest, not only in the technology, but also in the way we do process. So for us, it's not just the technology, it's also the process. And if you kind of structure your process in the right way, you can take advantage of the technology in a better way. What are some of the benefits you're getting out of this new system on the analytics you mentioned, with HBase and the data? The other great difference compared to our previous system that we used is just the fact that because we can load the data so much faster and we can query the data so much faster, we allow our business analytics to be way more productive. So we integrate our Hadoop with Netiza. And what that allows us to do is we can do queries that before couldn't even finish. Not only they were not taking a long time, they couldn't even finish. So our business analytics is way more productive. We can deliver reports way faster than we did before. Can you describe what wasn't delivered or you couldn't get the queries, what specifically were you doing? Sure. So previously, we were using Oracle to a greater extent, Oracle Rack. And there were some, I mean, we get a lot of data, especially from our logs. It's billions of rows a month. Well, maybe not billions, but close. So once the data grows to a specific size, I mean, certain queries will not be able to perform or even finish. So by our integration of Hadoop and Netiza, we were able to actually not only bring the load and query time down, but also able to execute queries that we were not possible previously. How much data are you managing? We currently aggregate about two terabytes a month. So we aggregate all of our structured data, like vehicle data, vehicle information, pricing, dealer information, inventory, and also unstructured data, which is the data that comes from clicks from the website. And also leads, so the referrals to dealers. So we're talking hundreds of terabytes. Yeah. And another thing is that we were able to bring all of our data sets into one data store, which is HBase. And previously, that was not possible for the company. We had solar. We have coherence. We have relational databases for structured data. But the flexibility of HDFS and HBase allow us to bring all of those structured and unstructured data sets under one roof. And allows us to develop applications that were previously not possible, because we can relate all this information. We can correlate the lead information to the dealer information, to the clicks information. So it's a really powerful concept, I would say. So I'm interested in this relationship between the traditional enterprise data warehouse and these new emerging Hadoop applications. Do you see them as growing together, kind of like the gentleman that JP Morgan Chase showed yesterday, showed a very interesting chart. And there's that debate over what that's going to look like in the future. What do you think it's going to look like? Give us your prediction. I can't really predict the future, but I know that new technologies will be emerging. And going back to my previous point, is position yourself to the fact that you will have to integrate with new technologies. So it's possibly going to be Hadoop and HBase, but it's quite possible that another startup is going to come along and develop something great. And first, don't try to predict your message. But predict that change will happen. I mean, that's the best way to position yourself. And prepare for that. Make your systems easily integratable with the new and future applications. What's your take on this event, Hadoop World 2011? It's pretty dynamic. So I want to get your impression of kind of what's happening here, but also talk about how you guys are staying on top of everything. I mean, we're seeing new stuff come out like Mahoud and other components. You've got Hortonworks competing with Cloudera. And you got to run your business. You've got a good solution with Hadoop. So what's the vibe here? What's your opinion of the show and the ecosystem? And then how do you stay on top of it? I mean, I think it's great. I mean, as you said before, it's going more mainstream. People are taking notice from different industries. They're interested. They ask really great questions. The nice thing about what Cloudera is doing is that all those components work together. And we don't have to worry about versioning issues. So we're using, for example, Uzi for our job coordination. And it works way better than the systems that we did before, like OEM and cron jobs. So I think the fact that there's so much momentum adds to the value, because developers feel like they're learning systems that are useful, that they can kind of rely on the future. Greg, we've been having a discussion this week about, of course, we love the marketing wars, right? And Hortonworks comes in, and EMC last May. And generally speaking, I think our conclusion was that Cloudera is open, obviously, open enough. Now there's a management console, which is not open. It's a proprietary console. And there's a discussion that we've been having. And I'd like you to weigh in as a practitioner, which is the lock-in question. So the theory, the premise is at scale. If your processes are tuned to or tied to a management console that's proprietary, you're switching costs are going to go up. Does that concern you as a buyer? In practice, Edmunds is actually currently not using those tools. We actually develop our in-house Chef provisioning, which allows us to manage our cluster. So it's still open source. I don't find it to be too concerning myself. I'm kind of thinking about the way Cloudera put themselves in a position where it's the easier you make it for people to use your system, the less incentives they have to use your other solutions. So it's kind of there in a little bit of a position of, I wouldn't say uneasiness, but it's a tricky position to be in. And they have to be careful how to position certain products to be open source versus not. But I guess it's their problem to solve. And I'm sure they'll do a great job of doing that. If I understand your point, if a sales rep comes knocking the door and says, hey, will you buy this? He'll say, well, no, I'm getting all this stuff for free. And I have my own homegrown management system. I'm good. So Cloudera is not currently deriving revenue from Edmunds, is that correct? Currently not. But yesterday there was this talk on Weeby Data, which I believe it's one of the Cloudera projects. And they try to add value. And someone asked about licensing costs. And they haven't figured out yet what the licensing for that component is going to be. But it's going to be part of the Cloudera distribution, which gives you the advantage of versioning and all this stuff. So I'm sure they'll figure a way to provide additional value to people at the same time, make money. Yeah, absolutely. So OK, well, we're here with Gregory Rakita, who's with Edmunds.com talking about the use cases. My last question is you've given some advice to users.  You're maybe here. I think Mike said two-thirds of the people here were actual users. Let's say you're one of those who's just kicking the tires. What would your advice to people who are just getting started? I think at the beginning, the cost of entry might seem kind of overwhelming to people. Because even simple things like setting up a cluster might be too much for certain people. So if you have a strong technology team, I would say go for it. You might need some help at the beginning from outside. But I think it's really worth taking. So my advice is to be open-minded and take advantage of the fact that you will have different use cases and different applications for different purposes. So position yourself in a way where you can take advantage of that. Excellent. Gregory, fantastic use case. I really appreciate you taking time and coming on YouTube and sharing with our audience what's going on at Edmunds. And good luck with your projects. Thank you very much. Great to meet you. Great to meet you. Thank you.


So, as many of you know, on Friday, Rashida Tlaib, at a Bernie rally in Iowa, she led the crowd as they booed Hillary Clinton. The moderator brought up Hillary Clinton. The crowd proceeded to boo, and then the moderator said, no, no, we're not going to do that. Rashida Tlaib, however, she had a different reaction. Take a look. This week, when someone by the name of Hillary Clinton said that nobody, we're not going to boo. We're not going to boo. We're classy here. We're classy. No, I can't be quiet. No, we're going to boo. That's all right. The haters, the haters will shut up on Monday when we win. There we go. A hater. That was absolutely phenomenal. And immediately when I saw this, I just thought, man, my love for Rashida Tlaib, I didn't think it could grow anymore, but she's amazing. But the thing that happened next predictably was, you know, the mass pro-clutching from the establishment. And I was so outraged by this myself, seeing their outrage that I wanted to make a video, but on Friday, I went to the eye doctor and had my pupils dilated. So, you know, viewing all of these lights, filming with these lights, wasn't really an option. So I decided to wait until Monday to talk about this, you know, let it kind of marinate a little bit, if you will. But you know, one thing that irritates me is that, you know, amid all of the pro-clutching, nobody in the media who talks about this is supplying people with the context that they need. Because right before Rashida Tlaib booed Hillary Clinton, we got this article from the New York Times, where she attacks Bernie Sanders and his supporters once again. So as Shane Goldmacher reports, Hillary Clinton said on Friday in a podcast interview that Senator Bernie Sanders and his supporters did not do enough to unify the Democratic Party after the prolonged 2016 primary, calling the behavior of his supporters distressing and saying it affected the general election. All the way up until the end, a lot of people highly identified with this campaign were urging people to vote third party, urging people not to vote. Ms. Clinton said in an interview with Emily Tish Sussman for her podcast, Your Primary Playlist, it had an impact. Ms. Clinton also drew a sharp distinction between her efforts in 2008 to bring the party together after her bruising primary battle with Barack Obama and the efforts by Mr. Sanders in 2016, night and day, she said. Okay, so first of all, it's not up to us or Bernie Sanders to unite the party. You were the nominee. So that was on you to unite the party.   You could have selected anyone that was relatively left-leaning as your VP, but you chose Tim Kaine and assumed that the left would come out to vote for you. Now, I don't think that Bernie's supporters is what cost Hillary Clinton the election because more Bernie supporters supported Hillary in 2016 than Hillary supporters supported Obama in 2008. And we'll talk about that. But what happened was you lost because you didn't excite the base because you were offering nothing to voters. And she has the nerve to say that, you know, there was this sharp distinction between her efforts to unite the party in 2008 and Bernie's efforts to do the same in 2016. Bernie did almost 40 rallies for you. What was it, 39 and 40? You did half that for Obama.  And in case you haven't seen some of these clips, the reasons why Hillary Clinton supporters didn't want to support Barack Obama and even said that they'd vote for McCain is because Hillary Clinton ran an explicitly racist campaign against Obama. Take a look at some of the things that they said. Why? Because they want to do what they want to do. And they think we won't turn and vote for McCain. Well, I got news for all of you. McCain will be the next president of the United States. We're back. We welcome to Larry King Live, Elizabeth Joyce. She's in Denver, a member of Just Say No Deal. That's a coalition, a group of staunch Hillary Clinton backers who are not supporting Barack Obama. She's co-creator of higherheels.com, which described itself as a forum of power chicks for Hillary. One shot at that. Tell me about it. Clinton's for McCain. Well, we're with a coalition called Just Say No Deal. We have about 3 million people. We have about 3 million people. We have about 3 million people. Same thing. Christy Atkins, I'm Clinton's for McCain. I'm an independent. And while some people may have a know-who, went to a Madras Muslim school when he was younger, the Clinton's for McCain. He wears Republican red and says he's eager to support John McCain. I'm going to campaign for him, want him here for Trump. Let's take a closer look at Rajesh, graduate capollum's teacher, and you'll see what's different about this picture. He's a Hillary Clinton supporter, now part of New York's Democrats for McCain. We have on record with his name as a Muslim on his school record. So I mean, Hillary Clinton is just downright shameless. And everything she says, it's not surprising. Like, whenever she speaks, all I see this is as a distraction, right? She just wants people to not really focus on the primary.  But understand, it's not gonna hurt Bernie Sanders. It's going to help him if anything because overall, as much as, you know, you claim that people don't like Bernie Sanders. No, we don't like you, Hillary Clinton. Bernie Sanders is the most popular senator in America. You are highly disliked.  And yet nobody's talking about Hillary Clinton's divisive statements, but everyone is clutching their pearls because Rashida Tlaib dared to boo Queen Hillary. I mean, look at some of these examples here. You have former Clinton senior advisor, Zach Petkanus, saying the Sanders campaign needs to immediately condemn this, shameful, destructive behavior. You have Clinton spokesperson, Nick Merrill say, I can't imagine this kind of behavior is something Iowans want to see from candidates and their surrogates. And I don't imagine the vast majority of voters in representative Tlaib's district, which Secretary Clinton won by over 60 points in 2016, want to see this either. Also, this is so toxic and I almost feel like Barack Obama should speak out. I know he can't, but it's that bad. These women owe their careers to trailblazers like Hillary Clinton who also defended them specifically against Trump's insults. I still can't believe how awful this is. You have Tom Watson saying, why is representative Jayapal laughing at Hillary Clinton? You have Charlotte Clymer who was a comms director for Hillary Clinton saying, this is absolutely ridiculous and unbecoming. I don't know what the hell this is supposed to accomplish. You have journalist Saladat O'Brien saying, you guys might need some of those Hillary voters later in the general and in your own careers as legislators. Also, could our elected officials show some of the leadership qualities they always campaign on? This means all of you. Now, as all of these Democratic party loyalists clutch their pearls and scold Rashida Tlaib, they said absolutely nothing about Hillary Clinton as she attacked Bernie Sanders and his supporters that very day. Like this is asymmetric warfare. They want to be able to punch us. They want to be able to attack us. And when we respond, then we're the ones who are condemned. And nobody acknowledges that Hillary Clinton is the one that's being divisive. And she was attacking Bernie that day, but we can never respond. Like, do you understand the ridiculous double standard here? How is the media not calling this out? Normal people see this. Normal people see this and it's why they don't trust the media because they know that there's this agenda. There's this pro establishment, pro Democratic party, elite bias. And whenever we say something that's deemed divisive, we're always scolded. But if Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama say something that's divisive, well, you know, it's great. It's amazing. As the view put it, I'm just glad that Hillary Clinton is speaking her mind now. I thought everyone wanted her to be authentic. No, if you're serious about defeating Donald Trump and you claimed that the primary being too negative in 2016 was an issue, then shouldn't you be condemning Hillary Clinton's divisive remarks, which further divides the Democratic party base because they will need to unify behind Bernie if he's the nominee. So Hillary Clinton, after all that he did for her, even after she rigged the primary against him, this is how she repays him. Now, Rashida Tlaib decided to kind of semi-apologize here, which I wish that she wouldn't have done that because she did absolutely nothing wrong. But here's what she said, I am so incredibly in love with the movement that our campaign of Not Me Us has created. This makes me protective over it and frustrated by attempts to dismiss the strength and diversity of our movement. However, I know what is at stake if we don't unify over one candidate to be Trump and I intend to do everything possible to ensure that Trump does not win in 2020. In this instance, I allowed my disappointment with Secretary Clinton's latest comments about Senator Sanders and his supporters, get the best of me. You all, my sisters in service on stage and our movement deserve better. I will continue to strive to come from a place of love and not react in the same way of those who are against what we are building in this country. This is about building a just and equitable future for my two boys and future generations. So I mean, she didn't have to do that, but people called on her to apologize and she basically kind of semi-apologized. But has Hillary Clinton apologized? Like she said here, she was responding directly to Hillary Clinton's device of remarks, but that's not allowed. And nobody's calling on Hillary Clinton to apologize. It's just, it's so unbelievable. The hypocrisy of the Democratic Party establishment, it's almost like unbelievable. And it's not that, I can't believe that they're hypocrites because that's obvious, but they're just so transparent. You'd think that they wouldn't be so conspicuous. Like they try to hide their hypocrisy, but they're just wearing it on their sleeves.  They can attack, they can be divisive, they can even attack the supporters of candidates, but if we respond, we're the bad guys. Even some random on Twitter with like 15 followers. If that person responds in a negative way, that is a representation of Bernie's movement and he must immediately condemn it. In fact, he should just spend all of his time not campaigning and just condemning all of the meanness that is emanating from his campaign. No other candidate should do this, just Bernie Sanders. Why? Because they want him to lose.   The pro-clutching is fake. This is fake manufactured outrage. These people just don't want Bernie Sanders to win and they know how powerful the support of Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar and Pramila Jayapal is. That's why they're doing everything to defeat him. That's why they're calling on Barack Obama to speak out to condemn Bernie Sanders because he's popular. Maybe that would hold some weight. They want us to disarm. They want us to go away. But guess what? We're not going anywhere. We are not going anywhere.  They rigged the primary against us and ended up losing to Donald Trump. So now guess what? All of you elites who worked for Hillary Clinton can do. Step aside and allow us to clean up the mess that you made. You are the reason why Donald Trump is the president. You are the reason why the Supreme Court is on the cusp of going conservative even more for decades to come.  Do what you can to unify the party as people like Rashida Tlaib are trying to do. Call on Hillary Clinton to apologize.  I mean, it's just, it's insufferable.  Join the Republican party because guess what? If Bernie Sanders is the nominee, he will transform the Democratic party. So you're going to have to make a choice.  Or are you going to side with Republicans? Because economically speaking, you already agree with them more so than us. So make a decision. Either you're with us or you're against us. But all of this faux outrage, it's not helping you. It's only hurting your cause and making us stronger because I think that normal people see through it.   This is why Bernie Sanders is rising. This is why he's surging. This is why he's the most popular politician in America because he just cares about substance, not respectability and civility politics.


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