Good afternoon and welcome to the closing ceremony and valedictory session of this long workshop. I am Deepak Phatad. I am the project coordinator for 12000 Features program and I am very happy to note that for last two weeks you have engaged yourselves with intense academic activities with two of my colleagues. I will first request any comments from any of the remote centers about the course to what extent have participants benefited from this course and if they have any suggestions for the future workshops after which I would request both my colleague teachers to make some closing remarks. We hope to end by 5.25 because as I will tell you in my closing remarks at 5.30 I have another intense interaction plan with 168 remote centers. I request people to raise hands and I will connect one by one to these places. I request participant friends from the remote centers to be very brief because there would be many people who would like to comment on the workshop some extent. I am first going over to Amruta School of Engineering column. Over to you column. It was a very good experience for us to sit in such a class where these lectures were offered from a remote center from a very far place. At the same time I would like to congratulate this IED Bombay for setting up such a nice environment for us to attend this class. Now regarding the remote center here that is Amruta School of Engineering column we had a very good time here in the sense that we were given very good facilities. Especially our coordinator professor Jagumar is a very good knowledgeable person that many of the doubts that we had during the session we could clarify here itself. And regarding the lectures that were given by the teachers there was very much interesting and was informative. One suggestion anyway is from my part is that after sometime I would say we almost have reached a stage of steady state that everything that we have come from the left face nothing was stored in the control volume for sometime after steady state was attained. I would say no accumulation has happened after one hour of the session. So if it could be initiated after every one year it would be better I think. That's all. Thank you sir. Thank you very much for your comment. I am now going over to JNPU Hyderabad over to you Hyderabad. Participants have been immensely gained from this workshop as would be given by one of the participants. Before that I was head of the department Dr. Yeh and in case already you would like to speak a few words sir. Most welcome sir. Good evening to you sir. So this is the third program we have given to us. We have done successfully and fourth program also approved by you that is Unreached Methodology and almost 110 students are staff register for this program and you know JNPU Hyderabad is so centered we are having 450 colleges and it is a very good center for even a long range. You can have a 1,000 staff facilities we can have we can account it. We are very very thankful for giving this kind of opportunities and making our center part of this your program and I congratulate you for successful conducting of so many events and we are also supporting in these aspects. This is the third event we have successfully conducted. Fourth event we are waiting for you. Thank you. Thank you so much. I thought there was some one participant who wanted to say a few things. Good afternoon sir. I am a participant from JNPU Hyderabad. I would like to place on record your services for the workshops of the Dr. Parthik sir. And also we are very thankful to the course coordinators Koranik sir and Professor Atush Sharma. In fact what I liked in the entire course is the way the course middle is presented. Particularly the novel finite volume method which was not discussed anywhere earlier. I think that's one of the greatest things that we have learned in this course. And also when Atush Sharma defined the course here like a tool to make a video camera. So I think that's one of the interesting viewpoints what Professor Atush Sharma has given us. Let us thank Dr. Pramana, the course coordinator here who is very friendly and in fact whenever there was a break in the video session from your side she needed to jump into the whiteboard and she was also giving some interesting learnings from her side. So it's overall it's a great experience for all of us. We have very good participation from all the colleges in and out of Hyderabad and also from other parts of Madhya Pradesh. I would also take from this, in fact, I'm also planning to start one center at Usmai University in College campus also. That's one of the learnings that I'm taking from this course. And I'd like to place on record the thanks to all the staff of our volunteer services to the program. Thank you very much. We look forward to many programs on these slides in the future from your side. Thank you very much. We'll go to SVNIT's Surat now. I may make one request, any speaker from a remote center if he or she could kindly identify himself or herself because you see you know yourself and your colleagues in that remote center will know you by name. But please do not forget that there are thousand other people across the country who are watching you including us for example. Of course Prasatul Sharma and Prasabhacharya Purani might have known some of the names by now but I'm a newcomer. So I'd appreciate if any speaker first identifies himself and then offers a comment. Thank you very much. I will now go over to SVNIT's Surat. Over to you Surat. Vikram Rathod from SVNIT's Surat assistant professor and teaching the basic fluid mechanics course in the second year level. Sir here we are around 35 participants. We are all very happy attending this type of course. One of the things we would like to do is first thanks to professor Purani and thanks to Atul Sharma sir. One thing we would like to do one gesture is we will raise hand that we are very happy since last two weeks. All participants would like to raise the hand. Thank you so much. I will clap on your behalf for them. Thank you so much. I will now go over to VIT Pune. Hello sir myself professor Swapnil Vardkar from the participants point of view. I would like to first thanks to both the professors who have done really a great job especially Balchandra Purani and also the Atul Sharma sir. The fluid contents whatever the syllabus was designed that was very nicely appreciable kind of design. I would really welcome if you are going to take further this on like advanced computational fluid dynamics or something like that or any course specifically designed in that stream. So that would be really appreciable part and whatever you did that was a fantastic job I should say. All the participants over here are really happy about whatever the way we learned over here. We really enjoyed about that especially the coordinators in VIT center are really cooperative. So whatever arrangements they made we really enjoyed the lab work lab facility whatever codes you have designed you people have designed those are really appreciable especially about boundary conditions and all those things. I know that it's really complex for you people to teach when you are far away apart from the persons and you are teaching the programming as well as the fundamental theory concepts. So it is really complex to handle all such things but it is really appreciable efforts what you guys did. So really thanks for that. Thank you very much. I appreciate the comments. I will now go over to Nitte Meenakshi Institute of Technology Bangalore. Over to you. First of all thanks a lot to MHRD and IIT Bombay's initiative in this. Some time back it was very difficult to interact with IIT professors and IIC professors. Now at one time IITs are able to reach so many colleges at one point of time it's really commendable and I'm sure this will raise the standards of teaching and also the students and this is in general and in particular this program has been extremely good. Very well done by both Dr. Puranik and Tul Sharma. We really commend them and we give them a standing ovation on their excellent delivery. So I request everyone to join me in clapping them. Thank you so much for your kind gesture. Sorry please continue. At the same time I did not introduce myself I am Dr. Rajgopal. So I'm speaking from NMIT Bangalore. I also thank NMIT Bangalore for providing such a good opportunity for us to be here. It was really enjoyable and we also want the advance to CFD course to start maybe within a year's time. Arranging thank you so much for your comments. You are very right in that arranging a course takes a whole lot of efforts and whole lot of arrangements to be made. But and if you want more courses especially in some specific stream advance courses they are still more difficult to arrange. However it's a good problem to have and I'm willing to promise to you that we will by next year definitely have a course on advance fluid dynamics. Of course I'm taking for granted my colleagues here. So may I request the Prasapuranic and Prasarathu Sharma to say that within one year will they be ready with an advance course which could actually help even the researchers not just the teachers. Well they are not saying yes very easily but that's okay. And don't worry I will work on them for one year and make them ready in the next six months. Thank you so much. I'll now go over to MES Pillai College at New Panvel. I can see the New Panvel Institute over to you sir. Good afternoon sir. I am Professor Vivek Yakundi from Lokmanath Pillai College of Engineering and attending a workshop here at MES Pillai Remote Center. As far as the organization of the whole workshop is concerned I would say it was excellent barring a few audio video distortions. So I would like to congratulate NME ICT for their initiative on training the trainers. It was really the need of an hour and further I would like to extend my thanks to IIT Bombay who are actually enable us and delivered. Professor Puranik and Professor Sharma were really excellent in delivering their presentations and deliberations which were of very much use to all of us teachers. Professor Puranik while delivered the contents on basics of fluid mechanics governing equations and physical significances of various phenomena concerned to fluid mechanics and heat transfer. Dr. Atul Sharma was also equally good in giving his deliberations through animations like and the concepts of computational stencils and all which many of us were not aware. So the deliberations made by both the professors were really excellent. So from our center I have taken opinions of all we have about 30 participants. Every one of them liked the presentations made by both professors. So we enjoyed every bit of this workshop be it a lecture or a lab session or a test. So every one of us enjoyed it. So as a gesture of our happiness I would request the participants to clap for this session and also the response was quite good from all centers. The questions raised the doubts and common doubts and were quite of use to all of us because many the doubts were of common nature. So these were quite helpful to all of us. And lastly coming to the remote center MES Pillai, I would like to thank them for this excellent arrangement and environment provided to all the participants and also for the hospitality extended to all of us. Thank you sir. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for your kind comments and the gesture of clapping. I really appreciate that. I would like to take this opportunity to comment on one observation which Kresge Akundi made namely that doubts raised by several participants were of common interest. It is very important. In fact this was my assumption when I proposed the scaling up of this model. I was asked this question by several skeptics initially that if five people ask questions in a 100 participants class then wouldn't 50 people be asking questions if you make 1000 participants. And my answer was exactly what Kresge Akundi observed that generally about 5 to 7 to 10 questions when they are answered most of the other questions are also answered because doubts will mostly be common. And of course in case you have specific doubts which are more than those common doubts there is always an email and chat session and the modal framework. In fact that is the reason why we are able to scale up and now as some of you may know beginning from 25th we are running a course on introduction to research methodologies where we have 9300 participants from 168 remote centers. I am keeping my fingers crossed to see how does that course go. Hopefully it will go well in which case we will be running 10,000 teachers workshops over the next 2 years. So, let me go over to DKT as Ichal Karanjee which is the next college here. My name is Yashar Patil from PVP Insta of Technology, Buddha of Sangli. I am attending this course at remote center DKT Ichal Karanjee. I am very much thankful to the mechanical department of IIT Bombay specific thanks and to Professor Puranik and Professor Sharma for their efforts what they have taken to teach this course fluid mechanics and seeably. Overall the program was very good and I am thankful to the remote center DKT also for their hospitality arrangement what they have made. And finally I am thankful to all the participants at different remote centers for the different questions what they have raised to enable to understand this program. Thank you sir. Thank you very much. We have a comment request raised from NIT Tiruchira Palli. I will start the video action with interaction with NIT Tiruchira Palli now. Over to you Tiruchir. My name is Lakshmanan. I am an associate professor from Saranathan College in Tiruchir and we are of course from NIT Tiruchir. This program was an excellent program. It was a wonderful program. We are all very thankful to MHRD and to IIT Bombay for creating this workshop. The quality of the programs have been excellent. Our special thanks to Dr. Puranik and Dr. Atul Sharma for giving such nice lectures. We are also very thankful to our center coordinator Dr. Suresh who is away in the United States attending some international conference. He has made excellent arrangements. They have made good arrangements for stay as well as for food and things like that refreshments. The program has been really excellent. There are no words to capture our feelings on how beneficial this program will be. I don't have any words really. I am very very happy. I am myself an alumnus of IIT Madras from 25 years ago and I am reminded of the excellent lectures of Dr. S. P. Venkatesh in the HOD of mechanical department there and my kind professor, Professor Walker of America who gave us excellent lectures on fluid mechanics and Dr. Vinayak Ishwaran who is the HOD of IIT Hyderabad whom I had the privilege of studying under. Many many thanks that I don't have words to thank you. It's excellent. The programs have been excellent and very beneficial. It will really help many people who will be doing PhDs in the areas of CFD and thermal engineering really. Bravo it's magnificent. The program is magnificent. May God bless you in your endeavor. Even one of your other staff Dr. Kannan whom I understand has a double PhD in chemical engineering and computer science. He happened to be here with us for informal feedback and he it was excellent having him here also. Really there are no words there are no words to thank you for what you have done. I personally and all the participants I am sure wish and pray to God and wish you God speed in this mission where you are going to teach the teachers and educate the teachers all over the country in the years to come. God bless you Thank you very much. Thank you very much. It was truly an emotional tribute. I appreciate it because I am also intensely emotional and impulsive but I do appreciate these observations. Let me tell you that I have been privileged in running this project. You are witnessing one particular workshop that is happening now and concluding today but we have had 10 such workshops in the past and thanks to the very hard work that my colleagues have put in here as also very hard work put in by the back end teams whom you normally don't see our administrative team and our video team etc. And of course extraordinary support from our remote center coordinators all that thing gels well together to make these programs effective. At the end of the day it is the enthusiasm and serious participation by the participants which encourages all of us to work off. I will remember your words for a long time professor because I am going to tell the ministry that with this kind of feedback we should actually have not one IIT Bombay giving lectures but at least 10 such hubs in this country and multiple subjects multiple experts interacting with many people across the country. Thank you very much for this suggestion. I will go over to Kolhapur Institute of Technology in Kolhapur. Good evening sir. Thankful to you all by giving such a wonderful experience because first time we are actually especially attended our outreach program and definitely we will try to implement maximum from this workshop for our students our college. Also I appeal you to arrange such a workshop especially some issues on social related issues like environmental energy conservations in future also. And one kind request to you especially some my colleagues in these workshops are totally new to the CFD competition food dynamics field. So sir especially when you are arranging test queues in these programs. So especially first test first queues you please keep difficulty level somewhat low otherwise it will hamper confidence of the newcomers in this field. So please for the next workshop if it possible you please take your questions. Because for newcomers it happens with me that's why sir. Again I congratulate you all for completing this workshop and I appeal my all the colleagues to give the hands to the team of the IIT. Thank you sir. Thank you very much. Thank you I would only observe that the quizzes that you saw were probably a glimpse of what we routinely do to our students here in IIT because we firmly believe that getting ten simple problems in a quiz and solving all of them correctly may gives us immense mental satisfaction but may not add much to the knowledge. Instead if we are forced to attempt ten very difficult questions even if we do not get a single question right the time that we spend in thinking about that problem and applying our mind actually announces our knowledge. Sadly that is not the practice in other universities and that is how people distinguish between a simple quiz and a complex quiz and a difficult quiz. However your point is well taken perhaps we need to take our participants through a graded stages of exercise complexity. So professor Puranik and professor Sharma may do well to remember this particularly for the advanced course which I have promised to participants on their behalf next year. Thank you so much. We have now College of Engineering Pune. Good evening I am Sripas Sarange instead of knowledge College of Engineering Pune sir I really I would like to thank to IIT Bombay especially this kind of program require a lot of hard working particularly planning and execution of the excellent and definitely that pre-plan whatever you have taken like displaying the syllabus content and other thing that was a really excellent and helpful to prepare before starting of this teaching program and after that particular the COEP really arranged it very well means what is that arrangement made over there hospitality and other content lab sessions was organized very properly and especially I would like to thank professor Puranik and professor Sharma sir for their meticulous and proper planning they have really delivered excellently their work and animation work provided by them somewhere that was really helpful last to grasp the concept although this COEP itself is a complete one semester subject but still in this little plan what I can say that Gagar Me Sagar like that they have planned like this although the space was very fast somewhere that somewhat difficult to grasp especially this interdisciplinary approach was there especially I think I am from mechanical background that is okay for me but particularly for civilian other branches it might be very difficult to understand but I don't know what sort of possibilities there but I think if possible nodal center or organization institute like COEP or other thing they should have opened their library so that participant from this institute they can go to their library and they can look into the book and if any doubt is there they can definitely clear that out definitely I have tried I have taken books but somewhere if that facility is extended I think this will be much more additional feature that can we can have and definitely this will enhance the program and if possible please extend to this next CFD part two program so that we can see or check our knowledge what extent we have basically we are make progress and one more thing is that yes definitely this is going to act like a seed we are going to we are going back now our institute and we'll try and whatever that course are there and the theory and other materials there definitely will go into much more detail now and I think what is the assignment you are giving after this one this will reflect what we are getting grasping and you will see that there is a really will get a positive response for our side from participant I am giving you a promise definitely this is going to happen you will be very happy that your hard work is paying you back and thank you very much. Thank you so much it was very amusing for me although I am a Maharashtrian I studied in Madhya Pradesh and I studied in Hindi it is after a long time that I heard this phrase Gagar Me Sagar which is a very apt phrase indeed you are very right these two colleagues of mine have actually tried to put in a whole lot of useful information in a concise fashion in such a short program my own compliments to them and your suggestion to keep the library accessible at the local remote center to participants is a good one we usually do that whenever we have workshops in IIT the outsiders are permitted library access I will request the remote center directors to try and perhaps think of such a possibility thank you so much we have VP COE Bala Mati let's go over to VP COE Bala Mati over to you sir myself sir is a assistant professor from everybody college of engineering in the world I'm one of the participants at VP COE Bala Mati our feeling is that we all want a very valuable guidance on a very important on emerging subject of COE Bala we are very much impressed by the way of their interaction on sharing of their knowledge and for that we are very much thankful to Professor Atul Sharma on Professor Vajendra Puranee our remote center provided with the hard copies of PPT which has a made our understanding very much easy and this will be very much useful in future as well thank you sir thank you to IIT Bombay we have now Tantai Periyar Velour we'll go over to Velour now over to you sir I'm I'm I'm talking from Tantai Periyar Government Institute of Technology from Velour I am Dr. Prakashan representing Gadadi Bedi Tulsi Jain Engineering College for the past two weeks your program has been so excellent and our professors are teachers have enriched their knowledge in the latest topic in mechanical engineering computational field dynamics this topic finds relevant to use not only for the teachers even for the researchers so we congratulate the organizers Professor Dr. Puranee and also Professor Dr. Atul Sharma who have conducted this program in an excellent way and we also thank Tantai Periyar Institute of Technology for arranging an excellent environment for disseminating this information they have made all the hard copies of the PowerPoint presentations and it has been very useful for our body spends to know the complete details of this program so we congratulate on behalf of all our body spends and we once again thank you thank you once again thank you so much we'll now go to Mofakkamja College Hyderabad over to you sir Jason Mutte a chemical engineer from Vidyan Barthi Institute of Technology Hyderabad speaking from Humor Center at Hyderabad uh sir at the outset I congratulate IIT Bombay for having taken up such a gigantic task of educating teachers all over India and we are very thankful to MSRD Government of India for initiating such a program we are very thankful to Professor Patak and project coordinator Dr. Mukta Atre for selecting us as participants there are no words to express our gratitude to course coordinators Professor Atul Sharma and Professor Poranik for the pains they have taken and the efforts they have put in preparing of the nature material and in their delivery that too the lecturing for hours and for two weeks and also designing the lab and of course they have conducted and I know how much effort and how much time they must have taken to put it and very highly thankful and virtually I should say would not have was to express our gratitude however in addition they had to answer questions of multiple type from various places and really they have put their best effort to answer the all the questions to satisfaction of the participants and we are again very thankful for this and however there are a few things that could be improved in the sense of course we had some difficulty of course being in India these things are a little common to us at times we had a little lack of clarity because of this idea of problems and during which some parts of the lecture we have missed in between and even during the lecture all and another thing that what I say is I consider this one as an initiation of the effort to start the subject at undergraduate level as this effort would definitely encourage the teachers at various institutions in India to teach this particular subject to undergraduate students so that the subject knowledge is widely spread and request you sir it is also required to go to the next stage where the teacher would be able to initiate research as well because then only it will have are the reasonable fruit so kindly making out of this and we will be very thankful if you could think in this direction and last but not least we are very thankful to the organizers of our remote center and here the environment is extremely good college is wonderful our coordinator Professor Samad is a very very dynamic person and and he has taken care of every minute thing to my surprise and very very thankful sir and all the best and thank you very much sir and we will be very happy to attend this type of course in future also we are here more than 40 participants and we are very sure all of us are benefited and we are going back to our institution with enhancement knowledge in this particular field and I am very sure we will convey this knowledge to our students so that this particular field is very well developed in India thank you very much Professor Murthy thanks for those comments I understand that there were perhaps some audio glitches in between although it is sad we will try and see that in future such glitches do not happen unfortunately many times the internet on which we depend does not have clean connection between our institute and your institute however I would like to point out that all the contents including audio visual recording of these lectures are going to be released in open source and they will be available not only on our website but we will also be willing to send the recorded lectures in the form of DVDs etcetera to those people who need them but the point that you made is important that the audio problem should be resolved let me hasten to add that our partners in this big experiment Amrita University where the AVU tool which we are using currently has been developed I have been associated with this tool in one form or the other in an earlier project I was the chairman of a review committee when I first learnt of it and when we started using this ourselves I would like to tell you that the version which is used in our first experiment two years ago and the version which we are using now has tons of difference the tool has improved very significantly with both functionality and the audio visual quality but I will keep your observations in mind and we will try and take extra care in future workshops as regards initiating research activities that is another important comment you made Prasamurthy so I would like to advise my young friends here that when they plan the advanced course apart from covering the topics from a course point of view if they could also indicate a set of research problems which have been partially solved and open research problems on which people could work in future that would be very useful because it is my own observation over 40 years that people trying to do research spend enormous amount of their early time in just defining the problem correctly many times they do not get any hint as to what problem they should select now they should begin their work so this suggestion of yours is well taken thank you so much we will go over to Shivaji University Kolhapur good evening to all I am PC Bhaskar remote center coordinator from Shivaji University Kolhapur first of all I would like to convey my out of appreciation and thanks to the whole CFD team and also to the professor DB Phataksar and also I would like to congratulate Professor Puranik Professor Sharma for their efforts and only because of their efforts and stamina these particular events could become very successful and as far as the experience at our remote center is concerned I would like to hand over to one of the participant to share her experience thank you sir I am Ms. Padnees one of the participant from this remote center I really appreciate the efforts taken by the CFD team particularly Puranik sir who has explained fluid kinematics very excellently also the Sharma sir he has given his animation reports very excellently and nowadays interdisciplinary approaches become to be popular and such type of workshops that will help us to develop the interdisciplinary approaches and my humble request to civil department of IIT Bombay to organize such workshops in the particularly in area of seismic dynamics or seismic analysis finite element that is my humble request thank you over to you sir thank you very much I will convey your request to my colleagues in the civil engineering department I think it is high time they started participating in this exciting experiment I will personally be talking to them shortly we have now NIT Varangal next on my list let me go over to NIT Varangal over to you sir at Varangal. Sir good evening sir especially the dignitaries those who are sitting under airs and here my thankful to the first of all the IIT Bombay faculty members especially I have some drawback in my career so that's why I didn't study it in IITs and IIS like that and by the God grace you people IIT people IIT Bombay people have conducted this wonderful program which is going to be organized and funded by the MHRD I'm very much thankful this particular program and I'm very much thankful about that remote center and and the coordinators of Swami Azalusar and as well as umma maestro and very much good and excellent program which was organized and presented by the those two people and here I would like to represent some of the grateful things and some of the thankful things to the Mr. Koranik sir Dr. Koranik sir as well as the Akul Sharma sir and they have given they have a very great patience given by the God the reason it is they have taken continuously five days five days classes and very patiently they have covered they have answered each and simple to up to the application of our questions we are very much happy sir and these but these type of programs are very much useful for the students those who are going to be studying in the particular regions of the rural India and so many people will not will not be having that desire to studying you know IITs but with the help of you sir with the help of the the government of India which which is going to be funded these type of the programs definitely via our we people are going to be present entire you know their desires to the rural India also sir and here once again I'm thankful to the remote centers remote center coordinators and those who are going to be provide these entire facilities from the technical team team team side as well as from use sir thank you sir thank you so much for those nice words I would like to take a cue from you and mention something you did mention the name of Dr. Somiajulu let me tell you that Dr. Somiajulu has been helping us to conduct these programs right from the inception and the amount of hard work in a dedicated fashion that he has put in is absolutely phenomenal this is the kind of feedback that we expect and we get always from most of our remote centers I would like all of you not only you at Varangal but all our other remote center people to clap for Dr. Somiajulu and such similar remote center coordinators at various places let's give them a big hand to show our appreciation


I don't believe that spirituality by itself can hold the attention of a person's heart to the degree that they can be transformed. The fact that he said it says an awful lot. I no longer wonder why certain people don't ever want to have a biblical conversation about the text or about something that they said because in many cases some of these same people don't want to do so why? Because of fear of them being exposed. Think back to the Wizard of Oz. He didn't want people to look behind the curtains to see what was really going on, to see what he was really doing. He was all just kind of fictitious, it was all, it was make-believe gadgets and levers being pulled, it was just kind of mirrors and smoke screen. That's what we have at a lot of our churches. And the fact that this person calls himself an apostle who would even admit this tells you that there's no regret, there's no shame as a matter of fact they are bold to be entertainers on stage. I know that this may ruffle some feathers but I really do believe in something that I call spiritual entertainment. I don't believe that spirituality by itself can hold the attention of a person's heart to the degree that they can be transformed. Now once you hear what he just said, I don't believe that spirituality can hold a person's heart or their attention. So that would mean that everybody in the New Testament, everyone that actually placed their faith in Christ didn't have anything entertaining about what was going on, as a matter of fact, at the fear of death, that they weren't really safe, there's nothing that held them because there's nothing entertaining, nothing that captivated them. Let's replay this again and hear this again. I really do believe in something that I call spiritual entertainment. I don't believe that spirituality by itself can hold the attention of a person's heart to the degree that they can be transformed. In order for you to hold their attention, you need a level of entertainment. So you need entertainment, you need education, and you need spirituality. Let me just go out and say this. What he said is absolutely ridiculous. I would wish that more folks would come out and oppose some of this stuff.  Let's just be clear. I don't consider that the things that he says and the shenanigans that he's done. I don't consider him to have even the education. And there's a reason why he would lean more on the entertainment. Remember, I'll go back to what he's saying here, but this is the same person, the same preacher that was not only on stage riding a bicycle and talking about other things.  Now I will admit that I had no idea what that was in his hand, but he said what it was and then having the magazines. There's no need for that. You mean to tell me you can't get your point across without that? Or do you really have to burn sage on stage to get your point across? Walking around. I'm about born again, believers. Walking around. Hear me. Spiritual redundancy is a sign of immaturity. The reason why a person says that is because they cannot rely on the work. Why? They don't know enough of the word to rely on the word. They don't know he didn't know enough of the word to disseminate the word with passion. You should be so in love with the word that you have studied this word enough that you can even pick up the different nuances in the Hebrew, the Greek, the English. Doesn't matter, but your passion, your conviction will be evident how you preach it and you don't need to resort to tricks and gimmicks. Recall in Acts 8, we come across a person who was a sorcerer who liked tricks, who liked gimmicks. Simon, there's a man named Simon who formerly practiced magic in the city and astonishing the people of Samaria. Him, this is him, claiming, and we know this because we look at the Greek. We see that this is him claiming to be someone great himself. And we know because the Greek word euton is speaking of him, something that maybe someone like himself might not know because he's more concerned with entertaining. And so he finds himself in the same place of a Simon who, when the Holy Spirit was given, what did he want to do? He wanted to buy it, why? So that he could also give it to other people because it would make him look good. He wanted to entertain people. This threefold core cannot be easily broken. And I believe that when all three of these components are present and active, I believe that the believer, I believe that the listener, the hearer, I believe that anyone that's engaged in these three dynamics, all interacting together, education, entertainment and spirituality. Now, there are going to be people that are going to come back and they're going to defend this person.  You're not like what Peter was speaking of. Peter says this in 1 Peter 2, he says, putting aside all malice and all deceit and hypocrisy and in all slander, like newborn babes long for the pure milk of the Word of God. So that by it, by what? By the Word of God, you may grow in respect of salvation. That is, if you have tasted the concept, that is, if, if, if indeed, if indeed, Ryan or anyone else who listened, and if anyone else who wants to defend this, that is, if indeed, you have tasted, he says by it, by what? The Word of God, you will grow. Paul says that he's not a saint of the gospel. That's the preach word because by it, it is the power of God under salvation. No, but he's telling us that it must we need to have some entertainment. People will say, well, wait a second, didn't Jesus do different things? And or he use examples or props? No, Jesus didn't do it in using props when Jesus healed someone. He didn't do something for the sake of putting on a demonstration with some props. Remember the people that were actually healed were actually healed. What he did, he actually did. And so you can't come back and use Jesus as example. He didn't have any props. Jesus actually used things and did things to people. I believe that their heart is overwhelmed. I believe that their spirit is revived. I believe that they're equipped for their destiny and for their assignment. And that's what we hope to accomplish at the destiny experience. At the destiny experience, don't go there. Let me just say that. Do not go if that's what they're selling some sort of experience, some sort of entertainment, because what you'll leave with is remembering that. Notice what? Notice what Jesus says. Let's put some things on the screen. Let's look at the passages. Jesus says or Paul says this, not Paul, so John says this in John 20 30. He says, therefore, many other signs. Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book. Why don't we need these signs? These things to catch us. He says, but these have been written so that you may believe what? Well, we're told about the signs. We're told about these different things that can kind of keep us in captivated. This is originally talking about different signs because the Bible tells us that those that want to see these signs, he calls them.  They want to see more stuff. They want to see more and more stuff. However, what does Paul say? Notice just notice how Paul puts this. He says, but after we have already suffered and been mistreated in Philippi, as you know, we have the boldness in our God to speak of the gospel. Not to you mean not not to give out something that was entertaining Paul? No, but to speak the gospel of God amid a midmuch opposition for our exhortation, exhortation of what? Oh, the words to teach it. Our exhortation does not come from error or impurity. Or by way of deceit, this word, deceit also refers to cunning. But just as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, more words, more words, not entertaining. So we speak not as pleasing men, but God who examines our heart. The whole point when you speak and you say anything, the audience that you first and foremost be aware of is God. He says, for we never came with flattering speech, as you know, nor with the pretext for greed, God is what we didn't come seeking glory. We didn't come to put on a show. We came to give the gospel. This man says, though, as he coins the phrase, spiritual entertainment. And that's what it is. He's trying to really can take the spiritual law. It's just entertainment under the guise of spirituality. If the word can't hold you, then entertainment will never keep you. So you come for this. You come for that show. You come to be entertained. You come to gas.  But you're not desiring the pure work so that indicates not for him, him aside, but for you. If you're coming to be entertained, then we have a problem. You're coming for the wrong reasons. I'm not saying that it can't be entertaining. Sure, but not for the sake of entertaining. You're not putting on a show.  Let that be what's entertaining. Let it let that be what grips you. Let that be what holds you. If someone's got to put on some sort of show right around, do different things. That's a person that's not sure of what to do. I said it before and I'll say it again. If you've got to dress up the word of God, it's because you don't trust the word of God. You don't value the word of God. You think it's missing something. You think it's lacking something and you think that you are the person to present it in a better way than even Christ himself did. And there in lies a problem. So if you want to go for spiritual entertainment, fine, have at it. There'd be a plenty enough room for entertaining yourselves. Inhale because that's where a lot of folks are going to go because they did not do as Peter said, they did not desire the pure word of God. I'm not saying that if a person is entertaining in their delivery, matter of fact, you should be entertaining in your delivery. The passion should come out of you.  When I speak, when I give the word, my personality comes out. And I hope it's entertaining enough, but I'm not doing it to entertain. I'm doing it because there is something at stake, people's soul. And I'm not going to use something, something, something that's entertaining that might not be there next week. Because when you're going through something, when you're in the when you're in your darkest of hours, when things are happening, when people are coming at you, when there's different despair or confusion, what do you need? You need the word. Why? Because the writer says, your word have I hidden in my heart that I might not send against you. I've kept your word. I've kept the faith, the tenets of the faith. As Paul says on his deathbed, I've kept the tenets of the faith. But what's happening is more and more folks are moving away from the tenets of the faith being led by someone who can just manipulate the audience because of different things, because of different gimmicks, because of things that can entertain them and keep them coming back and keep them coming back. Because next week, what you did this week won't hold them. You got to come out with something new and the following, something new and the following week, something new, something better. They'll get tired of this. Hey, can you step this up again? We need something more entertaining. And after a while, when they realize that when they need a word of God, all they can go back to, all they can recall from your church is that you brought a sex toy to the church. All they can go back to is that you had a Playboy magazine of the church. All they can go back to is that you wrote a bicycle at church. All they can go back to is that you burned sage at your church. But they can't recall the word. They can't go back and dissect the text for themselves because you haven't taught them that because you told us by your own words, spiritual entertainment, that people can only be held by not just the words or spirituality by itself, but there must be some entertainment. Shame on him, but even more so, shame on the people that will listen to this and by this and even defend it. Amen.


those. Yeah, we don't go down like like bad food. I saw that I watched the video after the game and I tried to go down and he went down and he got it. He got his credit for him. Maybe he's looking for that pitch in the moment, but I think I made a good pitch and we're talking about remind maybe throw. We tried to throw like a little more down in the song and the deer. Maybe was credit for him. So you thought the execution was okay. It was where you wanted it. Yeah, that's the execution. Yeah, but maybe Romy told me in the dog like that in that maybe in that moment I need throwing the deer or in my mind I try to throw throw it like down in the song. Yeah, I execute the piece when I want it when I want to throw. Would you be able to pitch tomorrow if they need you to? Yeah, I've been able to. We have to just lose him to that team especially because you guys are battling for first place. Yeah, for sure. We try to we're fighting all game. And you know, it's just is the fight for the first place in the in the division. So yeah, it's a tough lose today. Well, we've just found out through Meredith Morocco. It's via Twitter. The Chad Green will start tomorrow for the Yankees. Jack, there was a school of thought. Maybe Cesar could do it. You mentioned how long it had been since he pitched, but they will go with the opener green and especially the way he's been throwing. Right. Green has thrown the ball. Well, 25 for the first time in the game. Green has thrown the ball. Well, 25 pitches on Friday.  Perhaps a couple of innings if he can be efficient and Bob two things about this. First of all, the Yankees will be employing an opener against the team known for its opener is that being the raise. But also I go back to spring training last week or so of spring training. The Yankees had both holder and green start games with the anticipation that something like this might happen. So green has actually been a starter in his past before he became a reliever. So I don't think it's a terribly big deal for him to make the adjustment. It's just the efficiency. The Yankees would love to see him get through two innings. And then after that waiter, they go, does Cesar come back? Does someone like Chance Adams get a shot? Cortez in the mix as well. So it's going to be a piece it together kind of game for the Yankees. Cesar, by the way, throwing 23 pitches this afternoon. Now we'll break.