Happy Wednesday everybody. Do you remember Mrs. Frizzle, the Lizard, the school bus, Arnold? We're taking that bad boy into the mind of four-time Super Bowl champion, Rob Gronkowski. How, why, what will be in there? No one knows. Also, Raven Marlin Humphrey's sister sorta shooting her shot at Sam Hubbard who's a bangle. Does this divisional faux pas deserve a red card? Mark Ingram joins us with that and we start with under reactions heading into the divisional round. Bill's fans, get ready. Red cards with Mark Ingram coming up. Gronkowski will be on the show. We're gonna get his thoughts on Tom Brady, of course. Maybe get his thoughts on making reservations at the Waffle House. Who knows? Keep it here for that. But I just wanna put a, these are our red card. Red card on the name divisional round. It is an objectively lackluster, womp, womp, lame name. It is. As far as tournaments, as far as playoffs, they're concerned. In a world of super, it was once a red card weekend. And then they upped the ante to super wild card weekend where you have Final Four's and Elite Eight's and Sweet 16's and things like The Masters. Even waste management's a kind of a cool name. Or as Marissa was telling me before we got on the show, in Ben Schwarmers, Sandler movie, they have something called Mel's Tournament of Three Baseballers and Three Older Guys. Like those are great names for things.  Like a classic, like something regal or I'm wearing uncomfortable shoes, doesn't it? So I have been, you know, I have nothing in common with Gretchen Wieners from, Wiener, Wieners? Okay, great, that's gonna be on Twitter virally in a minute, from Mean Girls. Mean Girls, great movie if you haven't seen it. She's like the heiress to the toaster strudel empire in the suburbs of Chicago. And she tries to make fetch happen. And of course, Regina George is like, it's not gonna happen. I have tried four years. I sitting at the table that is in NFL offices, the good morning football table says, throw down round. I called it. Every time it said divisional round, I think I would just say throw down round because I think it's a much cooler name. And it hasn't stuck. It got no love, got no divisional round stays. It, can we change it? Can we get this going? Do you have an even better name option for me? Let me know at either HAK Adams or up in Adam's show. But divisional round, so fetch. We gotta make it happen. Okay, some things that we are looking forward to this weekend in the throw down round and that I think that we're underreacting to, doesn't it sound good? I know, around the league, first off in our underreactions, mid season return of Tredavious White and what it's meant to the Buffalo Bills who face the Bengals. Man, Trey, super bummer, love him as a person, a character, and then he's out on the field doing his thing as one of the best corners in the national football league. He tears his ACL last season, later on in the season, it was around week 12 and he missed the entirety of the Bills playoff run and I don't think it's a stretch to think he really could have made a significant difference in preventing, you know, what we saw from Patrick Mahomes in Buffalo's devastating loss to that team in the throw down round a year ago. So he made his return this season almost one year to the day on Thanksgiving Day against the Lions and coincidentally, mm-hmm. The same day the Bills defense suffered another brutal injury losing Vaughn Miller for the remainder of the season. This all matters, because when Trey got back and he's back on the field, they're undefeated. They're seven and no, they've held opposing quarterbacks to the fifth lowest passer rating in the league and while he didn't look like his all pro self right out the gate, you can't really expect that from him and he's really looking even better as of late, making vintage Trey White plays. Look at this interception of Mack Jones. I'm not granted I could intercept Mack Jones but this was week 18, a big game, lots of different energies with that Bill Buffalo team and they're trying to secure a two seed for the playoffs. It's an important game and he looked awesome there and I'd love to see it. And you really might be the Bills key in containing the Bengals passing attack this weekend.  I saw this on Twitter yesterday. I wanted to bring it to everybody. Oh man, Vaughn Miller, like that's kind of mean, oh geez. Their pressure rate with a four man rush has dropped from third with Vaughn all the way down to 19s. I think this is per NFL research. I mean, this is since that knee injury. That's a bigger impact than I thought. So it means that White in this Bill secondary, they've gotta bring it. They're tasked with holding, you know, up longer in coverage and against Joey B and Chase and Higgins and Boyd and all those guys. That's gonna be a pretty tough task. So if Buffalo is going to get it done, I do think it's because Mr. 27, Trey White, one of those characters in the league, to be honest, has a big day. So underreacting to him, his impact, him being healthy at the right time, that's something to keep your eye on this weekend in the said throw down round. Okay. I wanna keep things focused on the secondary here. Because while the 49ers, number one ranked defense, has been incredible as a unit for the vast majority of the season, I think we may be underreacting to some of the struggles their secondary has had of late. Over the past month, they've ranked, man, this is bad, this is bad. They've ranked bottom five in pretty much every category when it comes to pass defense. And this is against Taylor Heineke, Carson Wentz, Jared Stidham. I mean, Geno Smith, David Blau is on this list, guys. Really, their DBs have made plenty of plays all year, leading the league with over 20 interceptions. They have 21. Lately, they've been giving up their fair share too, okay? We saw it on Wild Card Weekend. Super Wild Card Weekend, sorry. DK Metcalf. And he's a beast, of course, it means incredible. But he just tore through this unit. 133 yards and two touchdowns, including what you just saw, that was that 50-yard strike from Geno, where I was like, oh my gosh, the Seahawks have something here. They're not gonna get swept by this team. And I'm not saying it's time to panic by any means, we're picking holes in like the team that I think has the easiest path to make it to the Super Bowl and win it. But if the Dak Prescott that we saw on Monday night shows up this weekend at Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara, you know, against that. And this guy, you know, the one that put up five touchdowns, that Dak Prescott against, what is a solid Bucks defense? I don't know, there's a world where the Cowboys could pull off a stunning upset here, and that would be the reason. And it might be up to both of them, the boys up front to make sure Dak obviously doesn't have time to take advantage of what might be the only weak spot in what is an exceptionally tight Niners squad. So that's another thing I think we need to be keeping our eyes on the past defense, the secondary of late. Cause Dak Prescott granted a different guy can show up, but if he's what he was Monday night, I'm worried. I also think we are underreacting just in general, we're talking about the name, Wild Card Weekend, and then it's become Super Wild Card Weekend. It has been so fun, the past two years, right? The NFL decides to add an extra playoff spot in each conference, and there is so much concern from my family members, from fans, from myself even. What is this going to do to the playoffs? What is this going to do as far as parody, as far as good games, as far as product, as far as watering down the playoffs as a whole, or making the end of the regular season less dramatic? If you think about this though, if the playoffs hadn't been expanded, the entire playoff field would have been set before we even got to week 18, okay? We would have been robbed of the Sunday night classic between the Lions and Packers. This alone isn't enough for me to love this new playoff system, okay? And really, both of those teams would have been buried. I loved that the extra spot gave a couple of teams that caught fire late in the season, momentum, all the matter, a chance to get in. I love it, we've had the best football because of it. This weekend, there was concern that we'd have boring games. That's so stupid, thinking back at it. What is this going to look like? Two teams playing without the starting quarterback, no two or no more, heavy underdogs all around the Ravens and Dolphins. Those are the best games. They gave us two of the most entertaining ones on the entire slate and set the stage, by the way, for what's going to be remembered as one of the greatest plays in all of playoff history, the fumble in the jungles that we're going with or is it the immaculate rejection per MyFlorio? Because we credit MyFlorio on the show when he says something, we give him that love. So we're gonna witness something special that we never would have seen had we not had that. And let's not forget about Saturday night, either no snooze fest, the Jags, pull off one of the most epic comebacks. They pulled themselves out of a 27 zip hole, stunning the chargers. This is great, epic football people. And if that wasn't enough, oh, Doug Peterson, gotta love ya, the bulky resurgence, second story arc, we are obsessed with it. But we also made history potentially. I'm not sure that anyone has ever made a reservation to Waffle House, okay? And so history was made this wild card weekend. It was a planned thing. Trevor said last week, quote, I told the team once we went against the chargers, we're going to Waffle House. And apparently his wife made a reservation for them. They walk in. This doesn't happen, guys. This doesn't happen without a health guard weekend. And I don't understand how anyone could ever want less playoff football. So everyone can keep yelling at their clouds.  So we just wanted to take a moment to celebrate what truly was an enjoyable viewing experience. I was on a plane for some event and I was so upset.  I could have just said that. I don't even know what I'm saying anymore. Oh, golly. Do we have any tweets? Anybody can check to it. Any tweets about Throwdown Round? No, nobody, anybody in, anybody out. How can we make this happen? Happened, happened. I don't know what I'm saying. What is it? Please be the show. We appreciate you. What do we got? Throwdown Round does have a nice ring to it. Thank you. Divisional Round seems a bit basic. Now I'm not against basic. I'm okay with things that I really am. I have a whole basic theory. We'll get into that in the off-season. I advocate, what was it that we changed? What? Changed it to Throwdown Round. Who do we have to talk to? Somebody get me roll up on the phone. Hans, get me to Godel. Patch me in. Troy Vincent, let's go. We need to change this and up it. Super Divisional Round isn't gonna work. Super Throwdown Round. Now we have something. We have a superstar up next. A super, super, super, super bowl champ. That's right, four rings. Maybe another one down the line. But we have the, down the line, we have the one and only Rob Gronkowski next. The Old World tight end. The six foot, seven, three. You can call me the good Rob Gronkowski. Gronk's back, baby. A four time Super Bowl champion. Fanduel family member. A guy who's very hard working on his kicking as he's kicking a field goal at halftime via Fanduel with the help of Adam Venetieri who was kind enough to do this yesterday. But now Gronk is back. Hey, Gronk. What's up, Kay? How you doing? I'm so good. I'm so good. You're always have a different background. You're always some, you're never in the same place. We never know what you're up to. But I want you to know, Rob, we're gonna go on a journey today. I like a journey. All right. I'm a mystery man as well. So this journey, you know, goes well with the mystery man. Okay, have you ever seen the magic school bus or read the books? Yes. When I was in elementary school. Yes. All the time. Mrs. Frizzle, the lizard. They'd go into space. They'd go into like bodies and stuff. Well, we're going to do that. I don't know if we're gonna get sued. So we're not gonna call it the magic school bus.  And we're gonna head inside the mind of Rob Gronkowski. Here's what's gonna happen, my friend. I'm gonna show you a photo. He's so scared. I'd be so scared if I was in. We're gonna show you a photo.  Let's see the first image that pops in. Okay, it's Mike McCarthy dancing after the cowboys took care of business. What do you think? I wasn't really sure what it was at first because I didn't see any of the cowboys jerseys because it was Mike McCarthy's back. And it kind of looked like it was actually myself at draft day, giving my family a hug. That's what I thought at first. This actually threw me off. I mean, other than that, I got nothing else to say. How do you think those cowboys will do against the Niners this week? I think the Niners are too stacked.  They played two of their strengths the other day. They lit it up, that's for sure. I actually said when I was on air with Fox about a couple of weeks ago that the cowboys are always pretenders, not contenders. So they proved me wrong this year. I mean, my statement was kind of correct before the previous years, the previous five years, but they proved me wrong. So I got to give it to the cowboys. Hats off to them. There we go. They did a good job. They played up to their potential, but the 49ers are too stacked. 49ers are gonna win the game. I've heard, we're gonna keep going. I don't know what's next. I've heard this next image is your cheat meal. Made by Mama Gronkowski? Yes, yes, that's my mother's chicken soufflé right there. She's been making it since I've been a kid. Yeah, she's actually, I think she's been making it actually before I was even born. My grandma, which is my mom's mom, created the recipe and it's chicken soufflé. It's the best dish out there. My mom is the best cook out there as well.  Our friends all love it. Our family all loves it. It's just one of the best meals that you can have. Trevor Lawrence and the Jags won and then they went to Waffle House. What did you do after you had big wins like that?  When I was in my young 20s, it was rip as many beers as you possibly could. And yeah, and then later on, when I was getting, you know, later in my 20s and my 30s, it was go home and start doing treatment on your body so you can get ready for the following week. But I liked it better when I was young 20s. I would actually, after games in the post game for the Patriots, there was a hallway and that's where the reception was after the game.  I would steal all the drinks from there and I'd bring it all home. It'd be burgers as well. And I would go home, be crushing beers with the family, friends, wherever it was. I'd just be mowing down all the food that I stole from the reception after the game. So chicken soufflé is a not everyday thing. It's like a special occasion dish. Yes, it's a special occasion whenever I see my mom.  So usually like typical, like once a month, I see her or so. So when I get to see her, she's always making her chicken soufflé, at least one of the nights that I'm there. Okay, so the next image inside the mind of Gronk is Jane Fonda. Oh. Where does this take you to? Yes, this just takes me back to about, I think it was about April last year and we were just in a locker room scene. I'm just picturing that locker room scene right now where Jane Fonda, her role was just kind of, she was so excited to see me that she just starts hitting on me in the locker room and she just read a novel about me and she has it on her as well. So I can just picture her looking up to me right now and just, you know, shooting out her lines, they were very inappropriate.  All right, they weren't that inappropriate but I was just pretending they were. But it was just a great time. It was a great day.  All the all the Patriot players back in the day from Danny, Julie and Tom, you know, the band was back together and that was, you know, a great day and I can't wait to see the movie when it comes out. It looks like it's gonna be, you know, hysterical and very like journey type, watching them go on a journey and be very interested. It's called 80 for Brady. I mean, Jane Fonda's a legend. Yes, she is. She is a legend. They were all legends. Sally Fields, she was there as well.  I mean, I feel like you two are gonna be a couple soon after the connection that I saw they had when they were on set. And he kind of agreed with me but then he threw it back at me and said he sees me with Jane. He saw the connection that we had as well, which you know, I'm just so that great of an actor that he thought that there was a relationship right there between Jane and I because we were acting so well. That's, I don't have a follow for that. I did not expect that. Sally Fields and Tom Brady, page six, take it away. Do what you need to do with that information. All right, let's go to this one. This next one is Cliff Kingsbury in Thailand. I heard he booked a one-way ticket. He's turning down interviews from teams for offensive coordinator jobs. What do you think about this? Yes, legendary move. I mean, why not take some time off?  I wasn't answering my phone. You can always come back Cliff.  You've had a ton of success in your life as a head coach and in the college ranks and also as a head coach in the NFL.  I mean, the NFL is six months straight of just nonstop working. So take your time.  More coaches need to be like Cliff when they get fired.   This next one isn't that funny though. This is scary but it's a preview for the weekend that we're trying to work in here. Where does this take you? I mean, like back to Halloween? I mean, I'm not really sure. I mean, that's the what? It's the dog mask from the Eagles season. You don't remember, did you block this out? I don't even remember that at all. I've never seen the dog mask from the Eagles season. I mean, who was wearing it? What do you, Chris Long, former teammate of yours? Lane Johnson, all of them were. I mean, I just haven't been paying attention to the Eagles. I'm sorry. That is the most patriot thing ever that you didn't even, this was like the most viral thing of their post-season vibe and you don't even know it existed and that makes me so happy. Yeah, never seen it before. I love it. Which one? It's just making me think of my dog now and how I just miss Ralphie. Ralphie should be on my lap right now. I'm sorry, Ralphie, but I'm not home. Okay, well, I thought you were gonna talk about your Super Bowl loss to the Eagles, whether or not they can do it. Do you think they could go all the way again this year? Yes, definitely.  So they definitely have a shot. No doubt about that, but they gotta work for it. I mean, they're coming off of that by week. They're a young team still. So it's kind of up in the air. I mean, I'm not saying they're a juggernaut team yet, but they have a chance and they gotta put it all together. But I think the Niners are gonna oust the Eagles if they meet up. I saw your montage, your training montage with Vinitieri. He was really awesome on our show yesterday. I didn't realize how ripped he was till he was on the show. And then after the montage got released. So have you seen this? What is going on? Actually, I had no clue that Vinitieri is that ripped. He actually wore a long sleeve the whole time. So I thought he was actually just a little chubby the whole time, but it's actually all muscle underneath his hoodie that he was wearing. And I'm kind of disappointed he didn't show any of it off to me when we were hanging out shooting the training montage. But let me tell you, man, he's a great actor. He's a great guy. He's got a great personality. And I loved working with him for two days straight shooting that training montage video. So I appreciate you, Adam, for what you do. And let me tell you, I'm sorry for making fun of you all day. You were making fun of me also. But we had a great time together. And hopefully we get to meet up soon and get the kick it again. And we'll get a workout in too. I didn't know you were that back then. I didn't know he was that chat. How's practice going? Practice is going real well. I'm definitely improving. We had a little mishap over the weekend. I actually got really sick, which stinks.  I think I had the flu. And I had to cancel my one kicking session Sunday night. And now I'm on the road for a week. So I'm going to be kicking again tomorrow. I'm going to be practicing on my own tomorrow. But I got another kicking appointment set up for next week. I'm not going to miss it. It was very sad when I had to cancel. I was very disappointed. But health is always priority number one. And it's going to just keep taking off. Every time I hit the field, I improve every time. And I'm comparing it to whenever people ask me. It's like golfing for the first time. It's stage one. You got to be patient. You just got to keep wrapping it and just train that muscle memory. We are excited for you. I'm sorry for the setback. We hope you're feeling better. And thanks for making time for us. I loved you on Travis and Jason's podcast. You were so hilarious.  Yes, it was really fun. That was actually the night right before I got sick the next morning. Actually, I think it was that night, like two hours after I did the podcast. But the Travis, Kallis and Jason Kallis podcast. How do you say they're last name? Kallis or Kallsi? Kallsi. That's one thing I forgot to ask them. All right, Kallsi. Their podcast was great. And they do a really good job. I love their energy. They bounce off each other very nicely. And Jason, you really don't know much about Jason because Travis is obviously catching tight ends and he's out in the media a lot more and his face is all over the place. But Jason definitely brings it to the table, man. I really like, enjoy talking to him and getting to know him just as much as I know Travis. So they're a great combination. They're a great duo. And they're gonna have things set up for them after football. They are, they're killing it. And I love that you said that he's not, the highest paid tight end isn't paid enough. And I just love, I love the tight end camaraderie. I always have. I thought maybe you got sick because you were just emotional about the Tom Brady thing because he loses, we didn't like seeing it, nobody does. And then he runs into the tunnel, he kisses his parents, thanks the local media, thanks all of that. What are your thoughts on this? Like, are you emotional about it? Sad, happy for his season to wrap up around loved ones. What are your thoughts? You know, he just knows how to check all the marks. Kisses his parents, you know, I love you mom and dad. Thanks to media, you know, he's such a good guy, Tom. And that's why I love him. He had me on his podcast, the morning of the game, and then it aired yesterday at the day after the game. He's just a great guy. He's a great human, you know, just wants to do the right thing, improve every single day, which is just so great about him. But, you know, it's definitely tough, you know, to see the Bucks go out like that. I know all the guys in the team. Well, not all of them, but basically no all of them. And they're great guys, man. That's a great locker room. They all fight for each other. They're all in it for each other. There's no one that's selfish in that locker room. And they're just fun to be around as well. So it was sad to see that. I mean, it's football though, I bet it in that situation as well.  I mean, it stings for a couple of days for sure. But, you know, those guys, they don't need to hold their head down at all.  I mean, I used to hang my head down sometimes after seasons, but just really think of what you accomplished throughout the whole year. It's unbelievable. There's only one team in the NFL that is gonna go home, you know, not disappointed. And it's the team that wins the Super Bowl. So one out of 32 teams. It's good perspective. Yes, it's the only team that is hanging their head high.  Rob, did you always have that mentality, like even when you were playing? Cause I wanted to ask you like what, in the rare occasion that you and Tom Brady had a loss in a big game, what was he like? Was he down for a while? Like what was that plane ride like?   But I'll regular season game, you know, with the Patriots actually, you know, throughout my 20s, if we won a game, the next day it felt like we still lost the game. And if we lost the game, it felt like you were in super depression for like two days at the Patriots or like for the whole week. So, you know, so that's what made you really want to win the games when you were with the Patriots because you didn't want to ever feel that depression feeling for like the two days after the game, you're like, we have to win the game. We, you know, we have to win the game. So we have a good week. So we feel good tomorrow. But I used to do that too.  But it's like, you know, the other team gets paid as well, you know, they're the best athletes in the world as well.     Then yeah, you should, you shouldn't even be there. But yeah, you can hold your head down that you didn't give it your all. That's when, that's when, like, you know, you should be disappointing in yourself. But if you give it your all, all year long, you know, you're always banged up fighting through injuries. I mean, it's something that's pretty amazing that you accomplished getting through a whole NFL season. It's amazing how much you are so self-aware what your evolution has been since like early 20s to playing in your, you know, upper 20s and now looking back on it.  And that's why Tom Brady is so, it's so wild to me because he's 45 and like, I'm sure he's changed, but he kind of hasn't too. And that's so rare and it's so crazy that he's still attacking it the same way and he wants to win and be the best. But you know, the good side of this, because you seem pretty optimistic in general, like Fox could get something with you to go in now. He's got to deal with Fox. You got to deal with Fox, like let's go. Yes, it's going to be a little mayhem over the next month or two for himself, definitely.  There's no doubt about that. But yes, there is a huge opportunity that is presented that's on the board, you know, with Tom going to Fox as a lead analyst.   What about sideline? Maybe a little bit of the sideline. I mean, I like being in that studio with all the guys in Strayham, just Howie Long, just all of them. They're just Jimmy Johnson, Terry Bradshaw. They're just Turb Menfee. They're just all great dudes and they're all hilarious. They're always joking around, but also getting it done at the same time. So I'm kind of a studio guy. Okay, studio guy. You on the sidelines would be hilarious, but I see what you're saying. You're mentioning the media frenzy. You're kind of, you dip in and out of the media stuff. Did you hear anything with Aaron Rodgers on McAfee yesterday? Did you hear any of that? Yes, yes. I heard the only thing I saw. I mean, I just saw a quote.  But I saw a quote that he's gonna win. He can definitely win the MVP again, like there was something like that. It was right around there. But I mean, I just, I just don't get it. Like, like, don't want to win it. Let's show you the quote or let's show you the quote. Let's show you the quote really quick. He said, do I think I can still play? Of course. Can I play at a high level of the highest? I think I can win MVP again in the right situation. Is the right situation in Green Bay or somewhere else? I'm not sure. I don't think you should shut down any opportunities. I think there's more conversations to be had. What's your take on that? I'm totally fine with everything he said, except one major part and that's the MVP again. It's just that I think I could win another Super Bowl and then that would have been totally fine. Like, bro, like why are you thinking MVP? Like don't you want Super Bowls? Like Super Bowls are, I think, five times greater than an MVP award. Like we all know that you won the MVP a few times now, but like, you know, everyone would know even more, how many more Super Bowls you've won than MVP. So that's why I'm just a little confused about that, you know, about that quote that he just had. I mean, it should be Super Bowls. You should never be thinking the MVP when you won, when Super Bowls are twice. And you've won four, he's won one. And, you know, a lot of people on Twitter and a lot of people are saying Brady wouldn't, like Brady wouldn't say that. Brady would say, like, I want my team. I want that. These both of these guys are gonna have to make decisions. What do you think Aaron Rodgers does? Cause it was cool. Without that quote, he did go on and on and talk about the process, right? Like what he's thinking about. Do I want to walk away and retire? Do I want to go to a different team? What factors are important to him? Like, does that resonate with you? Cause you've had to make those sort of decisions too. Yeah, definitely that definitely resonates a little bit. I mean, if you're in the opportunity, if you're in the, you know, have the opportunity to check out all your options. And yes, my advice to anyone that's out there, even Cliff Kingsbury is to check out all your options, you know, and also take some time off if you can. If you're in that position where you can take some time off, chill out, relax. I mean, football is always 24 seven, go, go, go. A lot of stress. So if you just want to de-stress, take some time off, do that as well.   Or, and he's not at the age where, you know, he's gonna take off a year airing and then come back. So in this process, I mean, it's definitely a time to consider everything. I mean, sit back, relax, write the pros and cons of everything. And I would pick the best opportunity, you know, for you and your family, for all your loved ones that are around you. And then also the best opportunity to go out there and win a Super Bowl. That's well said. Yes, yes. Gronk, well said. You officially get an award and you've held the camera for like 18 minutes. Unbelievable, we're gonna let you go. That was incredible. We appreciate it, but I will say, we went inside the mind of Gronk and you've got, you're on a roll here already.  You picked it quickly, decisively. Let's see if we can get this two weeks in a row quickly before we let you go. The schedule, please. Pick your upset, Rob Gronkowski. Oh man. Oh man, we got the upset. Oh. All the home teams are favorite. I mean, there's only, there's kind of only, I mean, the Jaguars and the Giants would be the upset games, right? I mean, like the fact- All the teams on the left, all the traveling teams would be the upsets. Yeah, I know. I see what you mean. So, Jags, Giants, Bengals, Cowboys, who could win? It's tough. Yeah, it's tough. But the team that has the best chance to win, that's on the left side, I would say would be the Cincinnati Bengals. Sincy Bengals, and you love those bills too, so that's a lot. I do love the bills. I'm a bills fan, but I'm saying if the biggest, the team that was two, yes, if it could happen, the team has the best chance to win, that was on the left side right there, would be the Cincinnati Bengals. Gronk, you are the absolute best, and my favorite thing that's ever happened on the show is you not knowing if it's Kelsey or Kelce, which is just my favorite actual thing. It's amazing. I know. You were incredible. Hey, feel better, rest up.  Yes, thank you, Kay. I only dropped the phone once, so one phone both throughout the show. One fumble is the perfect, and we loved it. We thank you, we appreciate you, and we'll be back with Mark Ingram, who is on the show after this, dishing out red cards. Marlon Humphrey's sister tweeted that she likes Sam Hubbard. That's division rivalry stuff, Ingram. We gotta get into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm ready for war. I'm destined for greatness. That's where to my homie that lead. I'm up on the scene. I told you I'm up on the scene, yeah. I'm ready for war. I'm ready for war tonight. I'm ready to set a score, to set a score tonight. Joining us now, a gentleman who's optimism and positivity knows no bounds. He just finished 12 seasons in the NFL as a top notch, running back for the Saints. It's our good friend, Mark Ingram, joining us hopefully from vacation. Kay, what up? Now I'm at the crib down here in South Florida, just kicking it. What's up? I mean, you're kicking it, but I feel you got work to do.  That's your boy. Hey, man, you know, El Fricky, he the man. You know what I mean? He always balling. And I didn't like some of the stuff that was being said about my guy today.  Ever since I was his teammate, I know he's gonna risk it all to be out there on the field, especially in the 12 game. So if he wasn't out there, it was for a good reason. And obviously he needs to get that knee right. And wish my boy the best. Whatever it said. If it's in Baltimore, which would be a highly disappointment for them in that franchise. But, you know, if not, somebody else would be ecstatic and elated to have him on their squad. Well, just so you know, and Brandon Marshall was on, we were sparring about this. We were disagreeing. He said, don't play, protect. And I said, I know, I don't know Lamar, but I know he wants to play. He wouldn't have played with one if he can't. So just so with the record is straight, I was very much Lamar is gonna play if he can, even if it is at a risk to him. And it's just working out really weird. But you were a Raven, you know that stuff. So like what do you think happens? Do you think he stays in Baltimore? Or what would be a good fit for him that we should manifest? I don't know if he stays in Baltimore. I mean, like they should have been paid them. They should have been paid. I know. So who knows? Do they franchise them? That could get ugly. Yeah. The Jets, do they have the capital to get them? I don't know. I'm not for sure with their conversation. I mean, it would be the Jets potentially Miami. You're looking at like the Raiders maybe. I've been seeing pictures of him on my timeline in the black and gold with the Saints. Like, I don't know what's going on, man. I've been hearing all types of stuff.  So I don't know what's happening. I just was scrolling my timeline and somebody had a picture of him in the Ravens Jersey. So I don't know, I mean, in the Saints Jersey. I don't know about the Jets. I don't know about the Jets capital. I don't think the Saints have the capital. They definitely don't have the capital. Ha ha ha! Red card, red card. That's amazing. Yeah, Saints are, Saints are 58.  I know.  So Saints are 58 million over the cap. That's some debt. They got to have a payment plan for that.  They been had debt though. They always find a way to finance that. You know, Mickey, he the guru up there. He always find a way to finance that cap. Yeah, Mickey likes to move those decimal points, hide some under the mattress, that's just how it goes. I agree. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah, he a finesser, man. He's a great financial type of, you know, guru type, moving the cap here to there, kicking the can down the road. Yeah. You know, restructure this, restructure that. And now we got money. Listen, we talk to, you know, we're talking about Tom Brady. We're talking to Rob Gronkowski who recently retired. We're talking about Aaron Rodgers.  You're making a decision on where you want to go. We're hearing Aaron Rodgers on McAfee yesterday talking about what factors are important to him. What's number one for you? When you're looking at either staying there with Mickey and those decimal points and that finessing or looking to go play somewhere else. What's numero uno? Man, the opportunity to be a champion, the opportunity you want to Super Bowl, obviously I want to be able to have a significant role on the team and be able to, you know, show what I can do to help the team win. I feel like I still have that ability. I still have that desire and that passion to go out and perform at a high level to be able to help my team win. So number one would be the opportunity to win a Super Bowl. Number two would be, you know, the opportunity for me and the vision would be able to help the team win a Super Bowl as well. So number one thing I want to do is I want to win a Super Bowl.  And that's one thing I'm missing. I'm missing the Ellen Bardi trophy. And my dad has one, so I got to put one in there too. So yeah, that's the number one thing. Seeing what team has a true possibility to go out there and compete for a championship. Well, some could argue then that would be chasing a great coach because you look at what Dabel did. The Giants are in it. Doug Peterson, Super Bowl winning coach goes to Jacksonville and they're in the divisional round too. Shanahan, all those guys are great coaches. So maybe you just follow Sean Payton wherever he goes. Hey, he drafted me. He brought me back from Houston. You know, all options are on the table. You know what I mean? I love to who that nation. That's why I belong. But you know, all options are on the table. This thing is a business. You know, I love to be back in New Orleans with my guys because I feel like we can accomplish that there. But we'll see. We'll see. March is a couple months away. Hear me out. We talk about Sean Payton, right? He interviews. I don't know if you know this. He interviewed with the Broncos. You and I talked about how that's not really makes sense. That doesn't really make sense. He said he's okay, he's interested in the Texans, which is interesting. He's expected to meet with the Panthers this week. He's the bell of the ball, right? He's getting wind and dined by all these teams, flying them out. Like, what should he ask for in this courting process? You know, he's got caviar. He's getting like a red carpet. Like, hype up your old coach. Like, he's doing the right thing by getting everybody to love him right now. Right. For one, I need a private jet. I need the PJ, man. I need me like a Rolex or a Paddock. You know what I mean? Something along those lines. Spoil me. Spoil me. You know, how much do you want me? How much do you really love your boy? You know what I mean?  You know what I mean? Put me together something that's going to entice me. What's in the care package? I told you. We need a, what? A thousand miles, a hundred thousand miles on the jet. We need one of them new Rolexes or Paddocks 2023 that's coming out. Oh! We need, we need, you know, we need a nice little pair of kicks and Louis V's. I don't know what you like. You know what I mean? We just need some style, we need some profile. Yeah, well, you wear his shoe size, so that's why you want him to get shoes. I see you. I see you angling. Of course, of course. Angling for yourself. All them extras, I need them extras. I have a crazy, I have a crazy thing where I think he's going to end up back in New Orleans. I'm just saying, I think the options, chargers might have been interesting. They're staying with your boys daily. I don't know, McCarthy, they got that win. They're going further in the playoffs. I don't see a move there happening. So what's Broncos and Texans a better option than staying with who that nation? I don't think, I think he might be back. I love your trend of thought, Kay. But at the same time, I'm like, if I'm Sean and I leave the Saints, just come back a year later. Why not? I mean, I love the thought. If anybody could do it, it's him. Maybe he needed a year off. Who knows? But like, would you leave your network for one year just to come back to them? Yeah. You would? Yeah, I would. Okay, well then, okay. Well then, I'm just saying, I just think it might play out that way. Just keep your eyes peeled, all right? All right, let's do this.  So Sean's back in New Orleans, it makes the most sense. It makes the most sense to me too. All right, let's do this red card and yellow card. We like to give things, you know, some footage from last weekend. And let's start here. We're gonna, which one are we starting with? We're gonna start with soccer and Brady. All right, when you're playing soccer and that's what this is all about. You own DC, United, all that. A good slide tackle in soccer is great. It's effective. But what was Tom thinking here? Ooh, that's dirty. That is dirty. My dog, man, come on. These quarterbacks be doing some dirty stuff. And then when you do it to them, they want to cry wolf to the ref and everybody around. Tom Brady, man, you've been doing it 20 some-plus years. We know this is unacceptable. That's a red card, my guy. Go! An elimination from the playoffs at the age of 45 and what is he thinking? I don't know. I mean, if we're watching Premier League or, you know, Champions League or something like that, this right here is very aggressive and it calls for a red card. Now the team's playing with 10 men. Red card here. Okay, I want to get to, where's the, yeah, here. Okay, so the biggest game, of course, Bangles Ravens. This happened, blah, blah, blah. Sam Hubbard, incredible. We're never going to forget this. 98 yard for a touchdown. It's, I'm not going to ask you about this play. After the game, you know Marlon Humphrey, okay? His sister, who he's very close with, I know. His sister tweets, wow, Sam Hubbard kind of fine. That's a lot of it. And then Marlon, do we have Marlon's tweet? Marlon says, see, this is why we lost right here. It be your own flesh and blood. I want emancipation. What, what type of penalty does this deserve? Sis get a red card, 100%. Sis get the red card, like, we, brother is out here battling in a, in a wild card game versus division rival. And one of the most crucial plays in the game, the difference in the game happens. And this is all you can say, is that Sam Hubbard kind of fine. I mean, she's not wrong. That's a red card, sis. Huh? Oh, you agree? I agree, but I think, but I, Marlon just makes me so happy. I, Marlon reading that makes my life. He said, I need emancipation. I love Marlon. You're the best, Mark. Enjoy your day in Florida. And we'll talk to you soon. Hopefully I see you at Super Bowl. Yep, I'll see you there. Hopefully. Oh, I'll be out there. We'll run into Champagne. I mean, Cam Jordan's trying to take your spot on my show, just letting you know. Well, it's a Gronk and Mark Ingram for coming on the show. Kevin says, super throw down round. Sounds awesome.  I'm on two. Oh, okay. Something good here. That's okay. Super throw down round. On tomorrow's show, we hang out with T.J. Edwards of the Eagles who are the ones he'd breasted and taken on the Royal Cello, Mr. Hamilton. I could not believe that we showed Gronk this, thinking it would bring up scary feelings of losing to the Eagles in the Super Bowl. No idea. The fact that he had no idea what that was, it was just, it was unbelievable.  It's just like, it was such a New England thing. They were so locked in and not paying attention to what was going on in the outside world that he genuinely didn't know what this was. Gronk is like, not a, he's a toughie. Like, I don't, I'm like, thinking to myself, did they, do we have the wrong image? Is it the white mask that he would recognize? What, and then he starts talking about his dog and how he wishes his dog would be on his lap. And I'm like, I don't know how this went so wrong. I don't know either. It was unbelievable though.


It's the end of the day, almost time for the bell How many options will you sell? Fire up your platform, get ready to enter But first, let's get the mindset centered Ay, ay, let's go We follow the plan, that's how we get paid Test and trade it, have success Find what works for you and forget the rest Stats and probabilities is what we're about Time to dismiss greed and doubt Focus on the process, not the money And the profits will flow like honey Power our lives, let's start the show Come on trade hackers, get ready to go Zero-day options, time to make bank Get locked and loaded, then be ready to plank What's up everyone, welcome to Power Hour Live Wednesday, April 10th Post CPI Post FOMC minutes A little bit of a wild ride, but fairly Let's see, we had a high after the open of 78, low of 38, so 40 point range Not too shabby, Vicks almost still up 16 Just under 16, S&P down 55 NASDAQ down 175 Russell down 63 Dow down almost 500 Gold, red, silver, green Notes and bonds lower, tenure yield up 4 and a quarter up at 4.54 Oil up 1%, natural gas up a little bit, grains mixed Euro in the pound down a percent, US dollar strong Bitcoin slightly green Let's see, what have I done so far today In one account, got stopped out of my 9.45 ratio My O2 call calendar was a nice win My RUT hedge is going to be a nice win My 1DTE is up 17% in this account My NDX is nice and centered Did a re-entry 1 to 1 in this account Up about 1900, and then the RUT hedge I put on today is down a little bit Up about 5K in that account In my challenge portfolio, also up around 5K I just closed out my 1 to 1 From this morning it hit 85% So closed that out My 3.2 reduced stop and position size And then got stopped out for a profit Then had a full stop on a 3.2 My 1DTE up 17% My current 3.2 that I'm in, reduced size It's up about 2200 And then that 1 to 1 that got hit My 85% profit target just re-entered Right before the deadline So I'm in a new one there I did have another price action trade That hit 2040.60 And then I did have another Non-bought trade that I tried to do Sell some puts Maybe started making that big push here Pulled back, tried to do some puts Got smoked out of those That's it for me Alright For me Let's see Just had an AM number 1 that I booked 20% and then I closed it out Before that speaker was starting So plus 690 And then I don't know if you heard about my mistake I did not I put on a lunchtime Number 1 at 1.10 So about 50 minutes ago And I was trying to watch something on TV I was placing the trade and I accidentally did 20 contracts instead of 10 And it hit profit target I hit 20 and 40% Nice And then I have a power hour number 1 That is currently on And I'm waiting for that too Today is a neutral day But I am going to do power hour Nice juicy premiums I'm just going to do small size Did you do your NDX today? I did do NDX Yep, it's nice and centered Yeah, damn, I didn't do it I was going to ask you So my Trunch 1 normal day Will start to fire at 56, so hearing about 90 seconds $4 strikes will be the $540, so 25 wide Put on a 1, 2 DTE double calendar And already took it off for over 10% Same day Usually I'll leave some on I'll take some off at 10% But just decided to take it all off with We do have PPI tomorrow morning So the fund is not over kids Oh no PPI pre-market tomorrow And 1, 2, 3 more Fed speakers And a 30 year bond auction No secha, it's a neutral day Because the market's not Up or down more than a half percent From the open So it's not an up day, it's not a down day It's a neutral day, or normal day I guess secha is what I call it It's based on where we open Not yesterday's close obviously Sorry Chad, I don't know if I cut you off I was just I was doing my normal day Power hour Filled on Trunch 1 35.60's, filled at 7.60 Russell down 3.25% Most at max profit for My rut hedge from yesterday Definitely the weakest of the bunch today So I'll close that rut If it gets to My profit target's at 59.85 It's currently trading at 58 SPX getting a little downside Action coming Which is not good for the 1 to 1 I just put on Yeah, so here's my NDX It's sitting pretty Yeah, I was going to Message you this morning and see if you're Still going to do that with the Yeah, that's an everyday trade from me No matter what Regardless of numbers coming out or anything Except FOMC because You won't get any decay in the morning Right Makes sense My 1DTE's were up about 20% Plus Maybe 25% and then all of a sudden Really pumped the premium into the 1DTE options for whatever reason I mean did On the zero days too but Decent amount because my 1DTE Was centered But Went from up about 20% to Up about 8% Within about 10 or 15 minutes Pretty similar spot to where it is now Now I got stopped out of my power Hour number one I didn't even notice that So here's my trunch one 60s and 35s I just did a 3 lot I'm just doing $1,200 Of risk for each trunch So pretty small and I just got Filled on my 1 to 1 In my other account at a buck 50, 85% That one will not re-enter Because it's too late Yeah, so trunch one I'm going to do 3 lot Trunch 2, 4 and trunch 3, 2 3, 3, 4, 2 Not about doing more premiums nice and juicy But a little wacky today A little wacky price action Yeah prices are juicy But still Juicy for a reason Yeah Still got a About a 14 Point Expected move left Yeah and in the last 15 minutes About 14 points 15 minutes, you know So my less time number one is still on My power hour in the morning got stopped Hadn't really looked at stocks today Biggest green stock is Coinbase Baba and Vidya hire Lot of red Rocket Being the most red on my board RH down 10% Tesla down 4 Roku down 4 And Roku just never recovered After that last earnings announcement Did it AMD down almost 4 Vidya bucking the trend Bitcoin was down but it's a little bit green now Energy slightly greened Every other sector red Real estate down 4.5% Regional banks down 5.5% Big drop in KRE Pulling the Russell down Ethylene need a little bounce Portfolio one to one That just went on right before we jumped on We go down too much further That one's gonna be a full Excuse me full stop I just appreciate no more No new lows until After PPI tomorrow Yeah for sure Then it can do whatever it wants Yeah if anybody didn't see And the zero DTE channel Davis Had posted a kind of an alternative To the to my reentry It's um So I played around with that A bunch today And um Anyway my conclusion Was I decided to Change it enter a profit target On those at 85% kept the draw Down And the win rate everything About the same except it increased the Mar and the Overall P&L So and it So it'll It's not gonna hit That often but Like it just did hit my one to one About 10 minutes before we jumped on here So it'll end up taking a Few more trades A little bit better metrics For the back test Trunch one's up 20% Well that's the test that Davis Was showing Elliott is A 50% exit But It did increase the P&L overall But it also increased the drawdown by Quite a bit and lowered the Mar So for this strategy specifically I'd prefer the Higher Mar lower Lower drawdown So I'm keeping it Take half off 30% And then I'll have an 85% profit target on the rest Just my preference Yeah exactly Which I thought I had tested That when I initially did it But it's not a huge improvement By any means but it adds A handful of more trades And increases The overall profit over time There's a nice little bounce Sharing strikes this is My 3-2 and my One to one and my challenge Account That one to be centered needs about 51-57 My 85% profit target On the 3-2 is at 285 that one's currently trading It's a little over 6 Need some more decay on that one One DTE still hanging around About 22% Ah there's 60% of my lunchtime Number 1 Hour hour Trunch 2 will come in At 90 seconds Looks like that might be The same calls 51-60 calls And maybe the same strikes as Trunch 1 Yeah I just entered power hour number 2 On the 51-60 and 51-35 I'll have to I was thinking about that today Elliott I gotta go back and It seems like I remember Even when volatility is higher That neutral days still Perform that great But I could be wrong on that Was it 16 tomorrow I gotta I gotta figure that out Cause we are there Yeah we didn't have that up down or neutral then But Seems like whenever I Started doing that It seemed like I did the testing I thought I Remembered kinda coming to the conclusion That neutral days just aren't great Regardless Trunch 2 Fired 40s and 65s 51-40 puts 51-65 calls filled at 545 Yeah I agree I think Yeah I don't know I gotta go back and dig into that a little bit Specific to neutral days Well If this thing keeps going up that Trunch 2 I just got in is gonna get stopped Yep stopped 5 minutes left to put it in About 50 cents away That's bummer Need rut to stay below 20-20 SPX you need to stay below 60 Yeah I thought the Wide power hours Would be good but they have not been The other thing about High implied volatility obviously It's on the way up You know VIX 16 VIX 18 VIX 20 Sometimes isn't that much fun But VIX 18 On the way down From 20 Really good VIX 16 on the way down from 20 Really good Sometimes on the way up it can be a little dicey I was considering sitting out power hour But Sorry when you get 30 wide If we could just get that little You know they could bring the bell for us I got my VXX trade on It's barely gone against me at this point VXX actually Has come off its highs quite a bit We get another flush lower In stocks after PPI tomorrow I'll definitely be jumping in some more VXX Let's see I have Yeah I was looking at that earlier In the short term ones almost at 100 But yeah the 252 Day one Hasn't seen this area after a long time Well Since October Yeah and 8 trading days I have 5 full Stops during power hour In April Yeah except above 62 63 Stopped on Trunch 1 and 2 No not 1 Just 2 So I still have Trunch 1 Their fill was my 3-2 Getting stopped for profit In my challenge account Still have my 1-1 DTE's up about 17% Power hour Trunch 3 Will be coming in In about 2 minutes And I do that 2-1 puts to calls Oh good thing Kinda got saved by my accident In terms of the red day Now it's not going to be a green day But it will be a small red day Because of it Minus $1475 Today Had a minus 2900 power hour And a minus 3600 power hour Otherwise It would have been a set out power hour It would have been a really green day Power hour is still your best overall though It has been In all my months Pretty sure except for April And power hour on Last month's CPI day was really good 2 big winners Went back and looked at it Getting a nice wide Trunch 3 Coming in on the 80s And 45s 80s 45s Filled at 560 Trunch 1 is only a dollar away from stop out If this thing keeps ripping I'm hot today probably Stopped on Trunch 1 Trunch 3 left in this account And indiacs and rut End of day butterflies Now we're close to being tradable 65 strikes trading for 70 cents maybe Okay interesting moral I'll dig into that as well Need rut back down It's getting a little bouncy The remaining 1 to 1 reentry Is at Filled in 2 different Fills so one's at 24% 21 so We can just hold here For a few minutes could get to that 30% 1 DTE's Up 25% Use a little more downside as well Let's see what else we got here I sold some premium at MES today 100 days out Closed another MES Got 2 MES strangles Still short premium and gold Hedgehogs are rocking This one has 9 DTE So Consider taking this one off Friday Alright now freeze Freeze SPX Yeah you think at some point It wouldn't you know it's not going to move 15 points in 10 minutes Alright got 30% So just reduced Position size and reduced Stop on my reentry Somewhere between 50% And 65 Will work for that one That's pretty good range You'd think Yeah you'd think My 1 DTE up 26% My Tromp 3's currently at about break even And it just feels like it wants to go back down the lows but Hope it just freezes right there Are you still in anything? Nope I am out of everything 2 power hour losses was enough for me I'll check again I thought I looked at 90 But I'll double check that I looked at that at one point Tomorrow and for whatever reason decided not to do it But There's a whole crew of people Who do that The mech Multiple entry iron condor peeps Definitely works with TAT That's what TAT was built for My rut trade Still a couple bucks away from my profit target 20 minutes till the bell 10 minutes till MOC I'll be back in just a minute Just love Quiet price movement One of these power hours One of these days we'll get it It's very easy to revenge trade When you have 30 wide strikes in power hour Very easy We'll bounce here Can it not rip through Through that consolidation area Can stay put And a lot of risk in this rut If it bounces for another $200 Yeah, just take it off Might just close her out I mean, I can see this just ripping up Alright, out of rut Rut rut Trunch three, oh Gotta reduce my stop on trunch three Did you get some back from this bounce? What's that? You get your book profits on this bounce? Well, I don't take profits But yeah, I'm over 40% Which is whenever I reduce my stop So I gotta remember what I do here Power hour There's this 10 point movement This last five minutes Oh, I guess I don't reduce my stop on trunch three It's just a $6 fixed Write it to the bell I got a feeling this next bar is gonna be To behold Hold on for a big next bar, huh? I mean You wouldn't think so But it would not surprise me I just got a lot of Nightmares of little green bars pushing up Just need to stay below 65 NDX needs to stay below 18 090 MOC number in three minutes Yeah, right back down there to 63 I like that Yeah Just couldn't quite push through there A little juice in these premiums for 10 minutes to go MOC in 20 seconds Listening for MOC 240 million sell side Nothing I like a nothing number today Let's see if any premiums start to come out now My 1DTE will come off at 56 after I believe Yeah, 56 Currently up 25% Definitely going for the pin on Trunch3 What's your pin? 5160? No, I've got on that one, I've got between 45 and 80 So should be good Oh yeah Should Key word there It's coming back up Not really worried about that one, I'm more Interested in This one here where 65 I wanted to go above 65 This one to one got filled in two different Two different deals So my 85% profit Targets on one of them is a buck 25 And that's trading at $1.80 The other one's at $1.50 And that's trading at 3 bucks If we hold here, if Yeah 5% gain in the Challenge portfolio, so just Three more days like today to make up for Yesterday Really holding on to premiums Not giving it up There we go One piece of my One to one's about to come off Maybe A few more cents No, get back down there There we go Two of them hit, so Got three contracts left on my one to one Trading at 260 Profit targeted at $1.50 My one DTE coming off One minute, stable is 65 Keeps bumping it Keeps getting rejected It's been rejected four times here Let's keep it that way Oh yeah There you go I think you're safe now One DTE filled at 9.65 So how'd that one do today? Right about 20% Look at it Last piece of this one to one ratio Is at 25, I need a $1.50 Yeah, it seemed like the decay Was coming out nicely until I was like, I think it was this little Drop here right around noon Right after noon central Or Right around noon central So I could just pump it back in You didn't get stopped out of your trunch one, Landau? I got stopped out of one And two There it goes Is it gonna get rejected again? I mean, stay below It's a minute left I just gotta close it out Let's close that one out So my last remaining Filled at 230 My last remaining trunch 3 Full profit Nice little tiny size, two lots But it's a pin Alright, so my challenge portfolio Up a little over 10K That's good, got a little back from yesterday Minute to go I am off to pick up the boys I'll see everybody tomorrow Alrighty, take care Peace Tomorrow's live stream is Let's see, tomorrow is Tomorrow the 11th So Chad in the morning for mighty 90 And runners and then we'll be back for power hour 20 seconds to go Nice, Landau Closing print for SPX 51 60 0.51 Alright Take care, have a good night See you tomorrow


Module 131, in production analysis we are going to study fixed coefficient production function. As we have already studied that production function can include various type of the inputs and those inputs they have the various types and at the same time various natures. There is a possibility that 2 or the 3 inputs they can be substituted with each other and there is a possibility that they cannot be substituted to each other. So, due to this property of substitution we have various types of production function and out of those there is one type that is called fixed coefficient production function. When we say fixed coefficient it means it is that type of a production function that requires that the output it will be produced by a fixed proportion of certain inputs. So, this production function it requires that the inputs they will not be substituted to each other, but they will be utilized in a various minimal level or you can say a various fixed level of that that will be required from one to another. That combination can be very unique means there is a possibility that we have stated that 1 unit of labour plus 3 units of capital if this is the combination. So, whatever the situation will be scaling of that type can be utilized, but that minimal level of combination has to be remained fixed throughout the process of the production function. And the key economic feature is related to that is mostly an entrepreneur or a producer they have a very valid reason for switching of the inputs keeping in view the availability or the non availability or particularly when they see that in the market certain amount of input is not available or if available it is costly mean due to the relative changes in the prices. So, due to that price change the respective budget line or the respective cost line it affects. Due to that entrepreneur they have the ability to switch the inputs in a way that now they come up with certain solution that they produce the same amount of the output now, but with various combination of the inputs. But this fixed coefficient production function it necessitates that we cannot substitute the inputs despite of the fact that we are facing the change in the relative prices of the factors of production. So, now coming to the other part that we will draw a diagram and we say that these inputs that what we are utilizing in this fixed proportion they are basically the complement to each other means this production is not possible until and unless we are going to maintain that complementarity or that combination. So, that production is not possible in the sense if we say that if we have to utilize in the production that the pen with the ink. So, that pen cannot write something if we have not utilized the ink and likewise there can be certain other utilization also in the industry or something else that they has to be utilized in a very particular and unique manner that they are complement to each other and without that they cannot be utilized. Here one very simple example I can give you that if we look at it we talk about a nut and bolt that whenever somewhere this is a very small portion in the production manufacturing when we have to make the furniture of the wood we use a lot of electronic things so you will know that on one side the secret is to close it, there will be a volleys or bolts so that is the peer they are the complement to each other without that they cannot be used likewise in our stitching if we see a simple button is used which the two parts until you come and cross it will not do its function of closing. So, these are the aspects that if we take a lot of things from a very small portion, even if they go to a very large level, so that complementarity or the combination has to be maintained. Now, if we use this in a mathematical form, then the way we used to write in the production function earlier we said that Q amount of output is the function of capital and the labour and where capital and labour they have their particular elasticity of production that is given with the alpha and beta. But in this we have a very unique aspect in which we are attaching a word that is called minimum and that minimum it has a very unique feature in the sense that that combination is capital or labour that has to be maintained throughout the production function whenever we are going to scale it up. So, this minimum operator is that particular unique feature of the fixed proportion and this smaller or the minimum amount has to be maintained throughout. Now, if we say that we have their elasticity of production whatever it is, but if we double the amount of capital and double the amount of capital, then we accept that maybe this will enhance our production. So, like production functions, here our production will not be enhanced at all rather in doubling we have invested the initial amount of capital on that value or we have invested that will be total waste. If we look at this in a graphic form, then this shows if we look here that we are showing a production function in this form. Basically, this is not shown in the format, this only this vertex shows its combination and this vertex's combination shows that only this combination is required that minimum level of capital and labour that give equal to the q amount of output or any amount which we will enhance here on its right, but that will be totally waste and likewise, if we enhance its vertical capital here, then that will not give any type of the incremental value in our output, but only and only production is possible at this vertex. So, if we have to scale it up, then we have to scale it up in equal amount, here we have to enhance it in one unit, which in other production functions, our production increase is possible, it will not be like this. Therefore, when we make its different forms of isoquants, we see that this is the first isoquant, this is the second one and this is the third one. So, and we join this vertex point here and this vertex point here shows the points where production is possible and here if we see this, then our region shows this or this, if we say this, then we can say that this is our expansion path, in which if we have to enhance the output, then only and only this is our path when we can enhance our output in fixed coefficients. Thank you.


Welcome back everyone to theCUBE's coverage here, live in San Francisco for VMware Explore, formerly VMworld. We've been to every VMworld since 2010. Now it's VMware Explore. I'm John Furrier, your host with Dave Vellante, with Dave Lenthilm here. He's the chief cloud strategy officer at Deloitte. Welcome to theCUBE. Thanks for coming on. Appreciate your time. Thanks for having me. It's great to be here. Epic Kino today on stage. All seven minutes of your great performance. Yes, very quick through the water. I brought everybody up to speed and left. Well, Dave, it's great to have you on theCUBE. One, we follow your work, we've been following for a long time. A lot of web services. A lot of SOA kind of in your background, kind of the old web services, you know, SAML, RSS, web services, all that good stuff. Now we're in kind of web services on steroids. Cloud came, it's here, next gen. You wrote a great story on MetaCloud. You've been following the SuperCloud with Dave. Does VMware have it right? Yeah, they do, because I'll tell you what, the market is turning toward anything that sits above and between the clouds. So things that don't exist in the hyperscaler, things that provide common services above the cloud providers are where the growth's going to happen. We haven't really solved that problem yet. And so there's lots of operational aspects, security aspects, and the ability to have some sort of a brokering service that'll scale. So multi-cloud, which is their strategy here, is not about cloud. It's about things that exist in and between cloud and making those things work. So getting to another layer of abstraction and automation to finally allow us to make use out of all these hyperscaler services that we're signing onto. Dave, remember the old days back in the 80s when we were young bucks coming into the business? The interoperability wave was coming. Remember that? Oh yeah, I got a deck, mini computer, I got an IBM S&A. Unix, I got Unix, and then this other thing over here, and LANs, and everything started getting into this whole, okay, networking wasn't just co-acts, you started to see segments. Interoperability was a huge, what, 10-year run. It feels like that's kind of like the vibe going on here. Yeah, we're not focused on having these things interoperate onto themselves. So what we're doing is putting a layer of things which allows them to interoperate. That's a different problem to solve, and it's also solvable. We were talking about getting all these very distinct proprietary systems to communicate one to another and interrelate one to another, and that never really happened, because we got to get them to agree on interfaces and protocols, but if you put a layer above it, they can talk down to whatever native interfaces that are there and deal with the differences between the heterogeneity and abstract yourself in the complexity, and that's kind of the different. That works, the ability to kind of get everybody clunk their heads together and make them work together, that doesn't seem to scale. And people got to be motivated for that, and not many people might not be. It has to be money. In other words, it has to be a business for them in doing so. A couple things I want to follow up on from VMware, keynote this morning, they use the term cloud chaos. When you talk to customers, when they have multiple clouds, are they saying to you, hey, we have cloud chaos, do they have cloud chaos and they don't know it, or do they not have cloud chaos? What's the mix? Yeah, I don't think the word chaos has used that much.  So in other words, they're getting to a point where they can't scale operations to deal with the complexity and heterogeneity that they're bringing into the organization because of using multiple clouds. So that is chaotic. So I guess that is another way to name complexity. So there's so many services are moving from 1,000 cloud services under management, to 3,000 cloud services under management. They don't have the operational team, the skill levels to do it, they don't have the tooling to do it, that's a wall. And you have to be able to figure out how to get beyond that wall to make those things work. So when we had our conversation about MetaCloud and SuperCloud, we, I think, very much aligned in our thinking. And so now you've got this situation where you've got these abstraction layers. But my question is, are we going to have multiple abstraction layers? And will they talk to each other? Or are standards emerging? Will they be able to... No, we can't have multiple abstraction layers, else we just, we don't solve the problem. We go from complexity that exists at the native cloud levels to complexity that exists that this thing we're dealing with to deal with complexity. So if you do that, we're screwing up. We have to go back and fix it. So ultimately this is about having common services, common security layers, common operational layers and things like that, that are really reduced redundancy within the system. So instead of having a, you know, five different security layers and five different cloud providers, we're layering one and providing management and orchestration capabilities to make that happen. If we don't do that, we're not succeeding. What do you think about the marketplace? I know there's a lot of things going on that are happening around this. I want to get your thoughts on obviously the industry dynamics, vendors preserving their future.  So when you look at this, is it really solving, is the order of operations first common layer abstraction? Because, you know, it seems like the vendor, I won't say desperation move, but like their first move is, we're going to be the control plane. Or, you know, Cisco has an vision in their mind that no, no, we're going to have that management plane. I've heard a lot of people talking about, we're going to be the management interface into something. How do you see that playing out? Because the order of operations to do the abstraction is to get consensus, right? Right. First, not competition. Right. So how do you see that? What's your reaction to that? And what's your observation? I think it's going to be tough for the people who are supplying the underlying services to also be the orchestration and abstraction layers because they're kind of conflicted in making that happen. In other words, it's not in their best interest to make all these things work and interoperate one to another, but it's their best interest to provide a service that everybody's going to leverage. So I see the layers here. I'm certainly the hyperscalers are going to play in those layers and they're welcome to play in those layers and they may come up with a solution that everybody picks. But ultimately, it's about independence and your ability to have an objective way of allowing all these things to communicate together and driving this stuff together to reduce the complexity again. So a network box, for instance, maybe have hooks into it, but not try to dominate it. That's right. Yeah, that's right. I think if you're trying to own everything, and I get that a lot when I write about SuperCloud and MetaCloud, they go, well, we're the MetaCloud, we're the SuperCloud. You can't be. In other words, that's a huge problem to solve. I know you don't have a solution for that. Okay, it's going to be many different products that make that happen. And the reality is people who actually make that work are going to have to be interdependent, independent of the various underlying services. They can support them, but they really can't be them. They have to be an interoperate. They have to interoperate with those services. Do you see like a W3C model at the World Wide Web Consortium? I remember that came out around 96, came to the US at MIT, and that helped forward some of those early standards in the internet, not DNS, but like the web. DNS was already there, and internet was already there, but like the web standards, HTML, kind of had, I think it wasn't really hardcore at getting people in the headlock, but at least it was some sort of group that said, hey, intellectually be honest. Do you see that happening in this area? I hope not. Why not? Yeah, here's why. The reality is that when these consortiums come into play, it freezes the market. Everybody waits for the consortium to come up with some sort of a solution that's going to save the world, and that solution never comes. Because you can't get these organizations through committee to figure out some sort of a technology stack that's going to be working. So I'd rather see the market figure that out, not a consortium. You mean the ecosystem, not some burning bush group? Yeah, not some burning bush. It just hasn't worked. I mean, if it worked, it would be great. We had an event on August 9th, SuperCloud 22, and we had a security securing the SuperCloud panel, and one of my, it was a great conversation, as you remember, but it was kind of depressing in that I was like, we're never going to solve this problem. So what are you seeing in the security front? It seems like that's a main blocker to the MetaCloud, the SuperCloud. Yeah, the reality is you can't build all the security services in the MetaCloud. You have to basically leverage the security services on the native cloud and leverage them as they exist. So this idea that we're going to replace all of these security services with one layer of abstraction that's going to provide the services so you don't need these underlying security systems, that won't work. You have to leverage the native security systems, native governance, native operating interfaces, native APIs of all the various native clouds using the terms that they're looking to leverage. And that's the mistake I think people are going to make. You don't need to replace something that's working, you just need to make it easier to use. Let's ask Dave about the sort of discussion that was on Twitter this morning. So when VMware announced their cross-cloud services and the whole new Tanzu 1.3 and Aria, there was a little chatter on Twitter basically saying, yeah, but VMware, they'll never win the developers. And John came and said, well, hang on. You know, if you've got open tools and you're embracing those, it's really about the ops and having standards on the ops side. And so my question to you was, does VMware happen? It's not exactly what I said, but close enough. Sorry, I'm paraphrasing. You can fine-tune it. But does VMware have to win the developers or are they focused on kind of the right areas, that whole ops side of DevOps? Focus on the ops side because that's the harder problem to solve. Developers are going to use whatever tools they need to use to build these applications and roll them out. And they're going to change all the time. In other words, they're going to change the tools and technologies to do it in the supply chain. The ops problem is the harder problem to solve. The ability to get these things working together and running at a certain point of reliability where the failure is not going to be there. And I think that's going to be the harder issue and doing that without complexity. Yeah, that's the multi-cloud challenge right there. I agree. The question I want to also pivot on that is that as we look at some of the reporting we've done and interviews, data and security really are hard areas. People are tuning up. DevOps and the developer market's booming. Everyone's going fast, fast and loose, shifting left, all that stuff's happening. Open source is booming. Toga party, everyone's partying. Ops is struggling to level up. So I guess the question is, what's the order of operations from a customer? So a lot of customers have lifted in shift. Some are going all in on, say, AWS. Yeah, I got a little hedge with Azure, but I'm not going to do a full development team. As you talk to customers, because they're the ones deploying the clouds that want to get there. What's the order of operations to do it properly in your mind? And what's your advice as you look at a strategy to do it right?  Yes, one that works consistently. As number one, you think about operations up front. And if you can't solve operations, you have no business enrolling out other applications and other databases. That quite frankly can't be operated. That's how people are getting into trouble. So in other words, if you get into these very complex architectures, which is what multi-clad is, complex distributed system, and you don't have an understanding how you're going to operationalize that system at scale, then you have no business in building the system. You have no business of going in a multi-cloud because you're going to run into that wall and it's going to lead to an outage. It's going to lead to a breach or something that's going to be company killing. So a lot of that's cultural, right? Having the cultural fortitude to say, we're going to start there. We're going to enforce these standards. That's what John Cleese said. Yeah. Cleese's famous line. Yeah, you're right. You're right. So what happens if that as a consultant, you probably have to insist on that first, right? I mean, I don't know.  You're going to have to insist on the fact they're going to have to do some advanced planning and come up with a very rigorous way in which they're going to roll it out. And the reality is if they're not doing that, then the advice would be, you're going to fail. So this is not a matter of when it's going to happen, but at some point you're going to fail. Either number one, you're going to actually fail in some sort of a big disastrous event or more likely or not, you're going to end up building something that's going to cost you $10 million more a month to run. And it's going to be under-optimized. And is that effective when you say that to a client or they say, okay, but or do they say, yes, you're right? I view my role as someone like a doctor and a lawyer. You may not want to hear what I'm telling you, but the thing is if I don't tell you the truth and I'm not doing my job as a trusted advisor and so they'll never get anything but that from us as a firm. And the reality is they can make their own decisions and we'll have to help them whatever path they want to go, but we're making the warnings in place to make them. And also, also situationally, it's IQ driven. Are they ready? What's their makeup? Are they have the kind of talent to execute? And there's a lot of, believe me, I totally agree with on the ops side. I think that's right on the money. The question I want to ask you is, okay, soon that someone has the right makeup of team. They got some badass people in there, coding away, dev ops, SREs, you name it, everyone lined up, platform teams, as they said today on stage, all that stuff. What's the CXO conversation at the board room that you have around business strategy? Because if you assume that cloud is here and you do things right and you get the right advisors in, the next step is what does it transform my business into? Because you're talking about a fully digitalized business that converges. It's not just IT helps you run an app back office with some terminal, it's full blown business edge app, business model and innovation. Is it that the company becomes a cloud on their own and they have scale and they're the super cloud of their category servicing a power law of second place, third place, SMB market. So I mean, Goldman Sachs could be the service provider cloud for financial services, maybe. Or is that the dream? What's the dream for the CXO staff? Take us through your- What they're trying to do is get a level of automation where they're able to leverage best of breed technology to be as innovative as they possibly can using an architecture that's near 100% optimized. So it'll never be 100% optimized. Therefore it's able to run, bring the best value to the business for the least amount of money. That's the big thing. If they want to become a cloud, that's not necessarily a good idea. If they're a finance company, be a finance company. Just build these innovations around how to make a finance company be innovative and different for them so they can be a disruptor without being disrupted. I see a lot of companies right now, they're going to be exposed in the next 10 years because a lot of these smaller companies are able to weaponize technology to bring them to the next level, digital transformations, whatever, to create a business value that's going to be more compelling than the existing player. Because they're on the capex back of Amazon or some technical innovations that would do smaller guys. What's the lever that beats the- It's the ability to use whatever technology you need to solve your issues. So in other words, I can use anything that exists on the cloud because as part of the multi-cloud I'm able to find the services that I need, the best AI system, the best database systems, the passive transaction processing system, and assemble these things together to solve more innovative problems than my competitor. If I'm able to do that, I'm going to win the game. So it's a buffet of technology. Pick your meal. Oh, come on. Thanks, Branson. This operation's first thing is sitting in my head. Remember Alan Nance when he came in the Cube and he said, listen, if you're going to do cloud, you better change the operating model or you're going to make, you know, you'll drop millions to the bottom line. He was at CIO of Phillips at the time. They're not going to drop billions and it's all about, you know, the zeros. So, do you find yourself, in a lot of cases, sort of helping people re-architect their operating model as a function of what cloud can enable? Yeah, every engagement that we go into has operating model changes and typically it's going to be major surgery. And so it's reevaluating the skill sets, reevaluating the operating model, reevaluating the culture. In fact, we have a team of people who come in and that's all they focus on. And so it used to be just kind of an afterthought. It would put this together, oh, by the way, I think you need to do this and this and this and here's where we recommend that you do. But people who can go in and get cultural changes going, get the operating models systems going to get to the folks where they're going to be successful with it. Reality, if you don't do that, you're going to fail because you're not going to have the ability to adapt to a cloud-based infrastructure that you can leverage at scale. Dave, we have a masterclass here on theCUBE at VMware. Explore. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for spending the valuable time. Just, what's going on in your world right now? Take a quick minute to plug what's going on with you. What are you working on? What are you excited about? What's happening? Love and life. I'm just running around doing things like this, doing a lot of speaking, still have the blog on InfoWorld and have that for the last 12 years. And just loving the fact that we're innovating and changing the world and I'm trying to help as many people as I can, as quickly as I can. What's the coolest thing you've seen this year in terms of cloud kind of either weirdness, coolness or something that made you fall out of your chair? Wow, that was cool. I think the AI capabilities and application of AI. I'm just seeing use cases in there that we never would have thought about. The ability to identify patterns that we couldn't identify in the past and do so for the good. I've been an AI analyst. It was my first job out of college and I'm 60 years old. So it's matured enough where it actually impresses me and so we're seeing applications right now. That's just NLP anymore, is it? No, no, not this. That's what I was doing. We're able to take this technology to the next level and do a lot of good with it and I think that's what just kind of blows me on the wall. Oh, I wish we had 20 more minutes. One more master class sound bite. So we all kind of have kids in college. Dave and I both do young ones in college. If you're coming out of college CS degree or any kind of smart degree and you have the plethora of now what's coming tools and unlimited ways to kind of clean canvas up by application, start something. What would you do if you were like 22 right now? I would focus on being a multi-cloud architect and I would learn a little about everything, learn a little about the various cloud providers and I would focus on building complex distributed systems and architecting those systems. I would learn about how all these things kind of run together. Don't learn a particular technology because that technology will ultimately go away. It'll be displaced by something else. Learn holistically what the technology is able to do and become the orchestrator of that technology. It's a harder problem to solve but you'll get paid more for it and it'll be a more fun job. Sister's thinking, big picture. Big picture, how everything comes together to architecture problems. All right, Dave is on theCUBE. Masterclass here on theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, Dave Vellante, explore 2022 live back with our next segment after this short break.