Thank you everyone for coming here today we are going to give a talk about the staff motion and here is the agenda for today. First we're gonna explain why we hear what is staff motion and how it works then we have a demo and at the end we will show our roadmap and our future work and some other related work. So who are we? Interesting question. So my name is Tin and we are software engineers and we have been cloud for three contributors for about two years. Since we graduated from the Pivotal Dojo two years ago we have a small team both in Cambridge and San Francisco about like called the DMC Dojo. So what is the Dojo? So the Dojo in Japanese literally means the place of the way where students come and practice martial art. So does that mean we practice karate all day? Is that true? Not quite. We do it sometime but not recently anymore. Actually we have two main focuses. The first one is we contribute to Cloud Foundry projects and also we innovate on those projects like come up with new idea and doing research. The second purpose is we do digital transformation where we adventureized pair programming and test-driven development among the internal teams at the DMC. So in short we have two focus Cloud Foundry and digital transformation right? Yes. So Zubin can you remind me of why are we here today? Why we here? Come on. We're here to provide a solution that a lot of Cloud Foundry users may have the problem that Cloud Foundry may have in now which is like migrating their applications from one Cloud Foundry instance to another with all the services. So what is... Let me give you a scenario here. So I assume most of you guys are developers. If you are not a developer you're probably in the wrong room. Just kidding. So we always have some applications running somewhere. Let's say I have applications running on PWS and my applications highly relies on distributed database and you know I'm really curious about Bitcoin and I actually look into the Bitcoin and figure out there actually implementation which is blockchain is way more cooler than Bitcoin itself because there's another version of how you do the distributed database. So I was thinking maybe I can use blockchain in my own application but sadly PWS doesn't support that yet but happily another Cloud Foundry instance do support blockchain and service. So what should I do? It looks very simple. I just have to push my application again onto the new Cloud Foundry. Yeah you're right totally true but that's only the first step. So normally in order to make this migration you also need to migrate all those services that bind it to your application. You can definitely do all those steps manually but it's kind of like tedious you might have mistakes here some of them might be critical you might have data lose or there's certain amount of downtime. You know Zubin I still don't get what you say because I'm a very chill developer so I I don't mind spending my time repushing the app and redo like five services no problem at all. Yeah fair enough I believe you but let me ask you some other questions. Do you want to run your applications in a very old slow computer? No I don't. Okay yeah. Do you want to have a smaller number on your PWS monthly statement? Yes. Okay fair enough. So for reasons like better performance lower cost the stronger security or compliance sometimes we do want to migrate applications from one cloud foundry instance to another even as individual developers like team care so much about these facts as a company those facts attached to their business a lot might hurt their business. So let's say I'm an operator that in charge of hundreds applications all the applications running in the public cloud because the private clouds we just built has so many benefits as we talked like a strong better performance lower cost the stronger security or compliance we now we want to move all the applications to the private ones so what should I do? Like previous slides we need to repush all those applications again and also all those services bind into those applications instead of doing just like once now I have to do it again and again and again so mistakes could be way more easily made here and any of them could hurt our business may make trouble to our business. So let me count so five times 100 applications it's 500 services no I don't want to do that. Yeah see that's that's why we here to provide our solution which is staff motion so team what is staff motion? So I I got a definition here it's a tool for app mobility among cloud factories. That sounds still very abstract can you give us more detail about how actually it works? Yeah so I prepared a very beautiful architecture slide here hope you guys don't fall asleep. So I let's say that I'm an operator right and I have my cloud factory instant on the left side and now I want to move an application to the right side which is people the web service so I check my environment I see there's an application binding to my SQL service now looking further I saw traffic coming to a load balancer to the app so how do I move this using safe motion first of all I will push what we what we call the safe motion agent on both of the clouds then using the command line tool we say okay move my application then the tool will contact the agent on the left side and backing up the data into a storage cloud storage somewhere and then on the right side the agent gonna pull the data and restore it into a new my SQL instance at the same time it gonna bring up another app like why I'm drinking tea like then it will after everything is done it's by the application to the app and to the my SQL instance and then redirect the load balancer hmm what happened I think my some guys must be thought like me it's like it's very like graphic stuff here and so since I'm experienced I have another demo for you guys to show how actually it works so we as you can see we have two windows open here the top one is the terminal open to show how we use safe motion and the bottom one is the browser open to show our demo applications so we already have two cloud foundry instance we have our internal PCF we call it a dojo and we also have a pws so our goal here today is move our demo application running in our internal psa which is dojo to pws so let's get started first let's take a look at what we have on our internal psa which is dojo so we have a script basically the script we are target to our internal psa and do the login let's do a safe apps as you can see we have two applications one is the agent as team already talked another one is our demo applications so the demo application is basically show a bunch of albums all the albums will actually live inside the or my security database so now we are going to add a new one to show that during the migration the data actually persist so as you can see we add a new one and it's show up here then let's go back to our terminal and we already in our in our route project in the root folder of our project of our demo application and we have we create a file called multi-cloud so basically this file we are contains all the information about the binded services so in our case we only have one which is the message you for each of the service it we also has all the information about what is the service name and what is the plan name in different marketplace of different cloud foundries so in our case let's let's yeah for example my cq in pws is called a clear db the provider is clear db and the free plan is called spark that's how cloud our safe motion knows about all the services okay so let's continue let's go to our pws to see what we have there so we have a same script for that we are logging to pws and if we do a safe apps we should be able to see only one applications running which is our agent yep so let's get started so in order to use that motion we need to give him three different arguments the first one is the application name you want to use for the on the destination cloud foundry instance the second argument is the alias for the for the source cloud foundry instance which is our internal one we call it dojo and the last one is the alias for the destination cloud foundry instance which in our case is pws so first we will target to pws and we push our latest application with the latest change to pws and then it target back to dojo and then let the agent do the restoring basically grab all the data in the massacres services and put into a file and push the file to a third-party storage and then target back to pws create a new massacres service instance there and then let the agent down retrieve the backup file we just push and then restoring the restoring the data in the backup file into the service instance we just created and then after everything's been done bind the service instance into the into our demo applications at the end do some clean up and the last step is to start our application so theoretically we should be able to see our second applications in our pws environment so if you do a step apps we should be sale demo application yep and now if we go to the application we should be able to see to see the the album we just added so those this this demo basically shows how we use that motion and the data actually persisted during the migration thank you wait something not right here well I noticed that there's no low valence or like there are two domains name right yeah good catch you're totally right so so cloud foundry oh no I'm sorry set motion is a fairly new project we just work on couple weeks so we have a lot of stories in a backlog including load balancer so let me give you a number for for non state for services if you are using step motion there would be no downtime no data loose for our state for services we would be we would do the incremental backup for for other services basically as team said before we are constantly do the backup so why it come to the point we want to do the migration the difference between those two database or some other structure would be very minimal so we can either do a blue green update with minimum data loose or zero data loose cause the difference between those two is could be optimal to zero and also if we want to make sure that there's no data data loose at all we can do a red red green update and with cause the difference is small it's optimum to zero the downtime would be also based on the difference I see and in the future we actually we introduce something called a policy driven server so this server will keep track of all your cloud file to instances and then it will it will receive something we call the policy files let's say that you want to migrate your application because your cloud file to instance keep failing your application for like five time a year then you can specify the metric for this policy file to say migrate your app because if you see that it reached a limit of failure then yep so this is the policy driven server yes so that's our two like features we want to implement in the future in the late feature and also we have some other related projects from Dell MC one one of them is not school so what does not school do is basically we are replicating the whole production environment not just the data but also with other applications and we ends into a development environment so yes yes yeah no man can kill not school so so let's say there's so big bug slowly crowded into our production environment and stays there forever because a development environment is another parallel word of our production environment so there's another version of this bug crowded into a development so traditionally in order for the administrators or the developers to debug the problem the need to for the developers only allowed to look at all the logs to debug the problem it's kind of really hard to do that because they're not allowed they're not allowed to touch the production environment at all but if we have those identical developments environment so it will be very easy for the developers to debug the problem they can just jump into the development environment and then do whatever they want to to find the bug and do whatever they want to kill the bug so that's what does not school do and we are also have another project which is yeah which is called recover point so now let's travel forward in time for like 50 years when zoom in and I sell this see a motion and we became millionaires now so we are really rich and which is bad enough sure and we will have two data center under our name so you see 10 and zoom in data center and we use this recover point product to back up my day my data into his data center and because I was so rich I mean I will be so rich that I build my data center on top of a mountain because I have I want to have a good view finally I realized it's a volcano mountain so it's a it erupted and and now lava eating all my data so I have to call zoom in like can you back me up nope late and total finally I agree after long conversation so he just have to redirect the low balancer to his data center and everything is safe himself yeah so that's all we have for you guys today and we would love to take any questions yeah yeah so we did some investigation previously so one of them is to do the incremental backup not through the database but through the the file system so but you need to income you need to in control of the the backend service so you can have control of the file system so we did some incremental backup of the file system the whole file system so in that case those motor would work for every single yeah like different database what our service you want also we have we figured out like for for database like my cq or MongoDB they have they have the a way for us to do the incremental backup without the control of the backend service they have the log file the log file system and not log file mechanism so basically if you have the database access you can have some binary to generate a log file that we are basically like information about the whole database you can have this log file to create or a dynamical database so we can like do the incremental backup of the log file itself so in that case like even though we don't have the like a control of the backend service you still can be able to do the incremental backup for the for that kind of service but that is for now we found only in support for the MongoDB and the message you and some message you related database yeah is that good answer question cool yeah so I the the project is another team's project if you are interested I can give you the like information you can talk more detail about that is that okay for you yeah currently it's in our internal github yeah we are from Dell EMC so we are talked to our PM we if you are interested we can like a shell the contacts or something yeah yeah cool so that load a balancer is not like a real load balancer it's more like it's more like a traffic redirection so it's not that like smart actually like a dynamically read the load the the the traffic it's only like for the domain change say that like your application run on PCF it has like a run the IO domain but for the user that don't want to notice the the application change right the only knows that you are like actually like Dell EMC.com don't want to notice that you've migrated from this cloud foundry to another one so the map so the load balancer is actually using more like a DNS server for us in this case is that answering your question yeah thank you I'm sorry you so provide it would be if you if you are using through the second like approach as that like just have the act doesn't need to have the back end service it will just like as the normal one just copy the data so it will copy another one yes yes yeah that's the load balancer one like we want to use load balancer as the way to route your stuff yeah okay all right I think that's it thank you guys thank you for coming


So how do we look at our real strengths here? Our real strengths are the network of alliances and partnerships around the world. And in that regard, quietly below the radar, below the radar of what is often in the public domain, I'll just run through what I've done in the last 30 days. In the first week of October, I was at NATO, our most important alliance, 29 nations that work together. Every one of them has its own interests, its own perspective. But at the end of the day, NATO is stronger than ever in terms of 27 nations, clearly raising their defense expenditures, nations that were aligned with us. When I rolled out the Nuclear Posture Review, I can go on. It's a strong alliance, and it's getting stronger. My next trip was down to Cancun, where I met with the Latin American, South America, Central America, Mexico, ministers of defense. I looked back on 2017, I thought that was a pretty crummy year for democracy around the world, not so in South America, not so in Central America, not so in Mexico. Imperfect, it may be, full of economic headwinds, clearly the American appetite for drugs and European is dumping a lot of money in that corrodes their institutions. But democracy is alive and well. They're holding elections, they don't know who's going to win. That's the way it should be in a democracy, and it's going well down there. First time I heard my position described as being minister, you'll love this, President Nancy, minister of peace, not minister of defense. And then I just got back from, went out to Singapore, met with ASEAN two weeks ago, where we are welcome, where many nations in private will tell us why they need us engaged out there, because they're concerned about what China is doing and the piling of massive debt to quote Prime Minister Modi on nations that they know China knows cannot repay it. And then you see what happened in Sri Lanka where they lost sovereignty over their own harbor. And one of those issues I'll be talking obviously with my counterpart about here in Washington shortly. And then two days ago, I got back from the Minama Dialogue in the Middle East where we were talking about how we move forward on a security architecture that maintains peace or what passes for peace right now in the Middle East and restores peace in several key areas, Yemen being foremost, obviously Syria moving towards the Geneva process against Russia's example, frankly.


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So Support your people Don't forget we do got the patreon The link to this is down in the description Let's get to this man. This is part two. I'm only doing part two because I did part one So 34 years on death row in prison This is part two to that one Don't forget we got the discord as well link down in the description. I'm more famous than Jesus Christ. Oh, this is a recap Man, yeah, yeah, this story was crazy. If y'all ain't watching this up here somewhere. Oh Wait Let me move this cuz I was gonna read it, but Nah Let's the chat. Why is the chat down here? Okay? Anyway Just a recap He took a plea deal to save his wife and his wife was sentenced to his wife was sentenced to murder charges He was served 34 years in prison for a murder which he denies to this day I don't know. No. No, that's not the full story. The wife. He took the plea deal for left him For another man that she had met Now now that's important to what's going on. I don't know why they didn't tell us that but she took a plea deal for his wife And while she was in a holding cell in prison with other prisoners, she met a girl and she The girl put her on to her her brother and she left this man that took a plea deal for her as soon as she was free for her brother Crazy, that's the craziest part All right, now we can go We arrived there on a gray school bus type thing modified school bus called the gray goose And the Folsom looks like a castle and has Big turret right there at the front gate and it's uh, it's got a big stone Gateway coming in and big iron gates that slam behind you and just reverberate through the bus You know and it really does they tell you it's the end of the line And it really does feel like that you can you can feel the misery in the place you can feel Um the hate in the place you can feel all these different emotions And uh, none of them are joy and happiness those don't come into play We come off the bus the bus drops us off backs up and goes out We're standing there in line at the receiving every uh lease unit And we have a sergeant. He's walking out in front there and he says, uh, I want to welcome you all to Folsom State Prison. It's the second oldest prison. It was built in 1880 And he's talking he's giving us this entry welcome spiel One of the people that had come up with us was uh, a very young kid uh, real long hair and stuff and While he was at vacaville, which had a very large Gay population what they would call be cat bees, which were the affeminates and he's got pain in nails and You know makeup on he's standing between Infeminates I never heard me and this other guy And as the sergeants walking back and forth Suddenly the gate behind him Coming out of five building slams open and out comes running this little mexican guy running for his life And just seconds behind this is great big mexican guy with a big old knife in his hand about an 18 inch blade And The small guy turns and looks at us for a moment and runs into the corner of the yard fence Bounces off and the big guy gets there and stabs him up. Now.  Okay, everybody go back to yourselves play times over violence was such A normal thing that you if it didn't happen for a period of time you started getting nervous because that meant something was brewing But you'd have you'd be trying to eat chow and we had metal serving trays where our food came out And uh at that time they gave you metal forks and metal spoons Which of course people turned into stabby instruments But what would they do with the trays they'd sharpen the tray on the concrete floor And then they'd fling it across the room and it would hit you and it could peel a person's scalp right off their head Weight piles you go out to the weight pile You better be really cautious about who you're working around and working out with Because nobody would think something about picking a 40 pound dumbbell up and smashing your skull With it or smashing your kneecaps with it. I was there About nine months before I got transferred to San Quentin and funny enough one of the people You were from bad prison the worst to work the California prison was the state's death row prison that was there that I knew I had known when I was a kid on the streets And his name was Doug Stankiewicz and I knew him. I knew him and his family.  Well at Folsom when I first went there I got into a beef with the Aryan brotherhood they They always say that they did they'd formed up to protect whites from the blacks and the Hispanics But what I saw was that they generally victimized the whites you know And uh, but it all came down to power drugs you know And because I didn't want to be a part of their thing, um They didn't appreciate the fact that I told them. Yeah, I don't need you Initially, I was called in to go into the boxing ring because the idea was if you went into a fight ring the guards Would not you wouldn't get written up no matter what happened in the ring The first guy they sent against me was a much larger man than me. The problem was he underestimated me and I ended up putting him down and Then that made it even worse because how they're like women women, you know Now we need to know about him and it became that kind of thing And uh, but it wasn't until I actually got to San Quentin that They had sent these guys just tried to stab me up but I got word I had taped up national geographic magazines around my arms and and Had telephone books made into a stab vest under my jacket And but even at that One of the guys had a knife big enough and strong enough that even when he did It still went through through the magazines to stab me about an inch into my arm. I got this One of them got slashed across faced by one of the other guys knives trying to get me You know And I ended up breaking one of their arms and we ended up getting this call education over with And I was able to get away without being caught They had injuries so they of course got taken to medical But the thing is they can't tell because to tell means that they're going to get You know pced up you know protective custody because you can't you don't tell My thing was is that I'm not going to slap fight with you.  That's how jail is Either be eight Especially when they on you already you got to set that example is what I'm hearing is from him Most of the prisons I was at with the exception of a cup very few couple There were sabbots all the time even at dvi There were cell killings Two guys be dual vocational institution to sell one guy got not the other guy Kill him then then go to breakfast come back and tell the cop. Hey, you got to get that body out of my cell It's stinking And that's the first time the cop knows there's somebody dead in that cell Jamie was a prison was in prison with Infamous american criminal including trials manson leader of the manson family cult who led members of the cults and nine people He was also in prison with cereal. Dang come on out. Oh He's also in prison with the serial killer ed keppner who murdered 10 people including his own Oh, y'all could have read that yourself. My bad. I wouldn't be to be honest like ed kemper And I don't know a lot of people know who he is when I first saw him walk into the room He was he was given as part of our orientation the second day. I was in prison He was like six foot six six foot seven three hundred pounds And he walked in the room and the first my first thought was like if I ever had to fight this man I'd have to try to kill him because I mean this guy would could this guy was just y'all he He has that kind of weird ominous presence that he's a danger just in his way walking in pounds Yo, and he spoke to us in a very monotone thing and one of the things that got me was when he was talking to us I think I seen a a movie that had him in there for like not a movie like a tv show It was called inside man of the tv show on netflix. I think that's what it's called He goes Every man must have a moral compass. You must not deviate from your moral compass and I'm looking at the guy going and You did what? You know, I mean You know, where's the moral compass here? But luckily with my situation with him I only had a couple of minor dealings with him there and then when I went to work in the hospital He came in one time and I had to get him into a room to be to be seen and He worked in a prison hospital as a nursing assistant and after having to go Would you come here with me and uh and go over there and sit down over there And having him just stare at me with this like dead pan eyes You know, there was like he wasn't and he didn't engage him verbally. He just looked at me. You know, I was like, oh But charlie manson a whole different character I was there about a week and a guy goes. Hey, you want to meet charlie manson? No charlie manson. He goes. Yeah, he's here. He works as a gardener in the catholic chapel garden So he took me over to see him And I saw him from the door.  He would be a larger man and he wasn't But my first uh actual interaction with him He was at the canteen line and he would have rocks that he had painted He goes you want to buy one of my rocks No, I don't want to buy it when you're rocks what you don't want to buy one of my rocks and he goes Don't you know who I am? I'm charles Manson I'm more famous than jesus christ And I'm like, you know, okay, and I just ignored him right and again It's one of those things where he was used to being somebody that people don't ignore well I'm working in the clinic and one of the things they would do is always trying to get needles You know and any drugs they could steal from the clinic Well, a lot of times they would go and they'd pressure the young guys who were working there to steal the stuff One day he came in and he goes look. Here's the list of stuff. I need I go. Sorry about your luck He goes no, you don't understand.  He made the great little cartoon character figurehead But Tex Watson was a very calculating man because when I met him it's califering mince colony He was the inmate pastor in the chat in the protestant church He had married a minister's daughter Uh, you know, he he had developed this yoke fellow following of the people You know And and the thing was you got to remember he was the one that told the girls Charlie says we've got to do this. Well, I'm sorry. You've got charlie manson. You got charles. Tex Watson Charlie didn't say which charlie told him He was another guy that was highly intelligent and most of the most of the guys I knew that were serial killers were Just top-notch Intelligence just not necessarily The guy you want to invite home for dinner Right. Can you talk a little bit about the lead up to being released and what happened? I've been denying parole hearings And I kept being denied denied denied And part of their argument was that I would be deported And they thought that well, I would just not be able to fit in over here So I've become a massive criminal over here um 2013 I went to before a parole board and I got found suitable and it went before the governor and the governor was jerry brown Who had been a governor back in the 70s and back then he gave the prisoners bill a right and gave a lot of inmates rights that we didn't they didn't took away later and he said no and uh He didn't give me a reason so we asked and he said because I can and I argued in court that Because I can is not illegal is not a legal Reason, you know, I mean that's just that's like a mean reason So it took me four more years to get found suitable again they uh They tried to fly me home on british airways because it'd be a non-stop But british airway wouldn't let me be shackled So he's brought me on delta and I had waste chains and handcuffs on And we went to the sacramental airport And they uh they threw a sweat shirt over my hands says don't Try not to look out of ordinary. I've got two guys in suits holding my arms And my hands are like this with a sweatshirt over it We landed in Heathrow They had taken All the stuff anything I had at the prison, which was over $2,000. They took from me to pay for my detention I was given a five pound note The walked up to the border people customs man comes out to me Shakes my hand asked me how I'm doing and told him doing well Looks at my documents Says how long you've been gone since 64 years. He goes, why are you back? I said I'm home He goes, yes, you are he goes now just walk right down there to pick up your bags and uh head on out But I yeah, I started my life over here again You know February 13th 2018 with five pounds in my pocket after 64 years bro They was trying to set you up for failure That that's a failure set up And told never to come back to the u.s. But uh quite honestly, I don't have a desire to do that What's been the hardest thing about kind of adjusting to the whole new country and then Keep in mind. He didn't really do the crime that he that that I don't know if y'all watched part one man, but he didn't really even do the crime They just back to freedom. I don't know if I'm ever going to fully be able to Feel like I've you know, I would have been had I grew up over here I don't have mates over here in the in the uk yet. I've been here coming up on five years and I've yet to actually Develop the relationship where I just have some guys I can go out and shoot pool with It's one of these things where things it's hard, bro Like it's hard. Like I just moved to florida, bro. And I don't really got like I got like a couple people but like like coming from chicago to here and like and your Older while you're older It's tough man, because you'd be really wanting to seclude yourself anyway when you get to this age Like you're just trying to work on yourself And you know, you don't go down as much but I'd be having to force myself to go out outside nowadays And meet people but in florida, man, it's like everybody just I feel like everybody is phony. Everybody want to know you for some other reasons and whatnot Everybody want to see what they can get up out of you. You know what I'm saying, so I do I do myself. I go to the gym by myself. I work out by myself Um, I've been to a few pubs where there pool tables. I shoot pool by myself I don't know how I don't know how to explain it, but I can't I don't connect but um That's how I feel like I don't really connect with the florida people, but No, I've been trying man. I don't want to overexert myself But that's a like I'm gonna start going to the gym So I'm pretty sure I can meet people there, man, you know hooping, you know when you hoop and you good People are gonna talk to you.  I I I have to say my life is good. Um Do I do I not appreciate the fact I'm 68 and getting ready to turn 69?


Good day and welcome back to the 4080 podcast with your host, Mr. Thomas Henley. How are you guys doing today? Today, we're going to be doing a little bit of a different episode, as always. We're going to be talking about autism and rap. And I have a special guest on tonight, SD Flame, who's going to be talking about their experiences. How are you doing? What's up? So my name is SD Flame. A little bit of background about me. I'm from a city of Mississauga. It's located in the Greater Toronto area, the GTA. I've been in Toronto twice for opportunities with the nonprofits. I won a small press on this summer. I did a lot of training and I'm happy to be on the show. I also went and inspired, I'd say like about over 100 people with disabilities outside my music, too, to push more with motivation talks with this music. And I'm right in thinking that you are autistic yourself and ADHD. Yep, got diagnosed four and a half. Four and a half. I wondered why the hell I was in a hospital, but I was in a hospital. Yeah, so I actually have a invested interest in sort of rap music and stuff. Because I think when we had our pre chat, I was talking about my my playlist of dark trap, which is like trap music's form of rap and then dark traps like the heavy metal equivalent of it. Very strange music. What did you think about it? I didn't really check it out, but I feel like it's getting me kind of like suicide boy vibes and some shit like that. Yeah, well, it's it's not like it's not like email rap. Yeah, I'm partial to a bit of email rap, but I do I do like all the like the old school stuff. Biggie Smalls is like one of my like go to me for me was nice for me. Love, Naz, J. Cole. Oh, J. Cole. Love, J. Cole. Yeah, it's really cool.  And, you know, throughout the years, kind of your your music tastes kind of adapts to what circumstances you're in and what you see and people around you. And I just thought it'd be really interesting to kind of talk about your experiences. So how did you start rapping and how how has your autistic experience influenced your music? All right. Well, before you understand my story in hip hop, you got to understand how the greater Toronto area is like and how and how this kind of dragged into me. So growing up, I spent my teen years and what I consider like more of the culturally mixed areas. So if you're from if you ever heard from Toronto, whatever, my city itself is 50 percent or more immigrant population. So growing up, I was around the Arabs, South Asians, Latinos, Caribbean people. And a very diverse place, a very diverse place growing up. Like even telling the slang in my area, as I was even mixed with a bunch of cultural words or different languages and whatever. So it's like, but one thing that was brought us all together was hip hop. It was like that one thing that we had some guys were considered some bands were considered like the local legends of the area, like the local rappers who they bid to Toronto. They'd done it up. And some of them aren't just like famous in the neighborhood. They're famous through the city. Yeah. Yeah.  And that's where. That's where kind of like was the influence for me. So what kind of got me to start going through hip hop and whatever was I was introduced to that 15, but I really think too much of it. I was someone who's just listening to rap, 16 or whatever. Nothing was going for me in life.  Like I came from a bit of a conflicting household. My family did the best for me, but they're in some harsh circumstances at the time.   Yeah. Yeah. It's like you're kind of like so being like a social drifter or like a wallflower. Yeah. So it's like you're observing people. So it's like you're like walking around.  So when, so this, this day happened for me, right? I was 16 years old in the cafeteria as a progression to a battle. I didn't think it happened, but I won the battle.  It's done. Yeah. A cafeteria battle, cafeteria rap battle, you know, and I won the battle on that point. I was gladiator mode ready for whatever comes next. And the rest of my high school experience, I battled and I struggled in life probably up to like my 20s and I'm doing better now. And what kind of? Because my experience of secondary school, it was very. I don't know. I was I was kind of like you said, sort of a bit of a stray dog. You just kind of drift around different areas. And I tended to like congregate in specific places, one one being the library. And I don't I don't know.  My my experiences, I think. A lot of the lot of the drifting that I did of like going around and meeting different people was I was trying to find people like me, like it understood me and I was I was kind of. I was trying to find something for myself in this situation because it's like I have trouble holding a job.  Yeah, yeah. Like Cussan and like we'd be in a rec center or whatever. And it was like I started battle rapping here and here and there. And so you had like social groups or was it just the crew at school kind of thing? There was different like places and whatever. It's like one thing I had to realize about my neighborhood, too, is that a lot of people picked up a craft, for example, to get themselves out of a worse situation or try to better their situation. So it's like not just me and ableism, but people were taken a bunch of other to their marginalized to. So I didn't grow to a high school in the same neighborhood I'm from, but at the same time, it was like a lot of us came together and it was either you think of a camera, are you a musician, are you an athlete? What can you do? And I know you mentioned about your sort of experiences in the household. Do you think that that, like, is that something that you want to elaborate on or just kind of push? It just got better over time. It just got better over time. I knew that at the end of the day, I feel like my family did the best for me. They spent the situation there at the time. It was I was like a harsh divorce. So that's the best way I could kind of like explain it. Everyone's kind of just doing better now. Good, good. Well, I know you were mentioning something about sort of secondary school and stuff. Did you like my my my particular experience of secondary school was quite isolating and anxiety provoking. And I had a lot of individuals from different areas of the school, different parts of my day who were quite confrontational, like quite, well, they bullied me, basically, which, you know, that that had such a massive impact on how I viewed life and other people when I left secondary school. Is that some is that something that you've experienced that kind of bullying aspect? I was like traumatized when I left.  That's why I say I struggled a bit, even in my 20s. Because it was like I was having trouble holding a job. I was unemployed. Most of the jobs I did held were in the nightlife. So like dishwashing for bars and whatever. And it was like it just wasn't an easy environment to be. And your life was a mess. You were like broken, whatever, and you're trying to make something come out of it. That's what made me take rap more seriously at 19, because I just felt like I needed something to do. Part of why I say stay blessed at the end of my videos is that I'm happy that things didn't get worse for me. I'm blessed every day that I wake up and I got something to fight for, for more. But, you know, when you were telling me about your your story, sort of in the pre chats. You know, I identify a lot with, you know, what you're trying to do at that at that age that you're talking about around sort of early or late teens, early 20s. My focus was to be an athlete. So I was like, oh, right, I need to get on that. And that sort of endeavor, that idea in my head of getting to a certain place was enough to kind of pull me along through all the difficult times at school, particularly. Yeah, so it was like, same with kind of me, too. Like I was a very kind of in his own kind of zone kind of person. But then over time, too, I did learn how to socialize. I had some homies through a club or motors. They took me out. I was like. So she offered, but I made it work. I just made it work. And in a way, I kind of networked away myself through not just my city, but through the whole Greater Toronto area. So I've been a downtown Toronto. I've been like. I've been to a lot of places. I've been a Toronto even recently for training opportunities to train in some programs. And is that programs for you or programs that you're helping? Oh, these are programs for me to like train and hip hop and show, show, do better, do better and with, too. But like, I'm happy. I went through it and made me into a better artist at the end of the day because it helped condition yourself to work on yourself and figure out more of what you got to do. I am. I you mentioned something about sort of the like the socializing and the social landscape and we'll we'll touch on that in a sec.  Well, I search your name in on Spotify. I don't look at some of them. And I like the two that that really stood out to me was I liked the Redemption song, but I also like like some of the particularly the song Ladies Night and Ice Like Winter Heat. I can't see the rest of that. Like summer. Yeah, yeah. So it was like it was like in a kind of way.   It was like my nights I sleep as I'm trying to go be something got to work and grind. That's what I find. Pain hustling the board, put it together, combined. And you might remind that I'm one of a kind. That kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. I love I like when you when you get like the flow going on the songs like this, I really like it.  So I don't know all like the lingo and stuff. But like I like this like a lot of the songs that kind of sort of laid back and quite. I don't know it kind of gave me some of the songs gave me like, you know, like Ice Cube kind of chilling back and sort of rapping about stuff. I kind of wanted to have that kind of sound with me, but it's the ones that hit hard. So that's what I was trying to go for. That's what I was trying to go make happen with it. And a way to a lot of man's will like chill back and listen to my music. Sometimes they'd be drinking or even having to smoke. Yeah, it's kind of funny to. Look back and it's I appreciate them all. I love them and whatever, but it's just one of those things where it was like we were more chill back and doing this kind of.  It's like it's quite it's quite cool. Like for me as a listener to kind of rap rappers, they kind of have the some of them have like quite a diversity in the ways that they rap and some of them are like pretty just like they've got one kind of rap voice and they just go with it. I was doing a lot to find my voice in this. I was doing a lot to like. I was doing too much probably even to like try to find your flow and cadence and your style. I had an idea in my mind of what I want to do, but it takes a long time for it to come out of you. And that's where I had to be mentally conditioned to. I think it's like it's it's good.  I think, you know, experimenting with topics and YouTube videos and podcasts and stuff. It's always like very important because you got to kind of nail down like your niche and your your way of delivering things and, you know, what you talk about. He talked to.  Like I kind of like to draw from your perspectives. There's times I like writing club bangers. There's times like writing more serious deep storytelling. It depends what what I feel at the time. It depends what I want to kind of. Aim. I have like no books behind me.  I could do. I can do. I have no books, no books, stacks of stacks of lyrics. And at one point to what made other rappers see it had potential and other people in music. See, I got potential even though I wasn't at the skill level. They thought I should be at was my lyric writing. Because they were like, if we figure out how to get it out of him. What he's got written on paper. He is going to be lit. Yeah, I definitely saw a lot. Like I can definitely we'll see it. I heard it. Well, I could definitely hear that. I'd want to say that to me like years later. He said, well, me and him were having a phone conversation. And I said to me, well, at the time I didn't think that you were that good. But he said you had potential because of what you were writing. Sure. And then I suppose sort of jumping back a little bit to the first point. I mean, how exactly did you? Did you go about starting? Like was it was it that situation with the rap battle that that's when you started to get more into it? Or did you like, you know, in your notes in class, just like writing down lyrics and I've done that. I've done that freestyle in front of mirrors. But when I started building a recording studio, I would say about 2021. I started taking the money that I got from working all these hard ass jobs from. Oh, bro, I got stories for you. Go for it. Okay. So me and a few other dishwasher disabilities were all working this one spot in the downtown part of my city. And it's small and it was an arcade venue, nightlife place. And we would have stories of people being like drunk. One person I think told me that we were all working the pit and there was an emergency exit from the VR rooms, the dish pit. Someone fell through. Oh my God. The VR room. Like virtual reality. Yep. Oh my God. It's like describe this complex, this place. So when this place first opened up, I got fired and hired the same day. I probably hold the record for shortest employment rate at my employment service for special needs my area. Sure. Sure. So I lost my job at a local grocery store. I have a trouble thing where I couldn't talk to customers and work at the same time. One would fall off, whatever.  Is it kind of like a gambling place or is it like? No, I didn't gambling. It's just an arcade place. The casino is way too far from there. So this is where it gets pretty hilarious. So I went and prayed for a bit. I kind of believe in my own philosophies and that kind of too, but being an Italian boy, you're raised to be Christian a bit. So I went to church, prayed for a bit, took what I call an ADHD nap when I got home, lie down and stare at your popcorn ceiling in your townhouse. So after that, I'm like, okay, that job fair is still happening. So took a shower, put on some for a job interview, went and printed out my resume, went over it like nothing happened. Went in line and it was like the most craziest interview process I've been through. Like we were playing games and one of the corporate executives had a clipboard and we're assessing you.  So I go in there, play the games, joke around here and there.   And I'm like, yeah, mom, I did. She told my nono. My nono didn't believe her either. What was like the job description? Was it just kind of looking after the machines? That was a dishwasher. A dishwasher, yeah.  And because the percents were low, a lot of us ended up in the downtown area of the city working because they were always hiring. Sure. So but at the same time, it wasn't easy though. Yeah. Like what was the dynamic? Was it like you were in an organization or getting help from an organization to go and find work? And you and your buddies all went together or did you meet them and just find out that they were near a divergence as well? They kind of just got hired over time. Sure. So it was like it is what it is. Like we were just all in employment service and I probably still hold the record for the show. It's employment rate there. Unemployment rates. And for like five hours. It's real tough, isn't it? Like there's a lot of statistics around unemployment and autism. Yeah. It's like 18% full-time employment. It's crazy. Something like that. Yeah. So like I worked there. So at one point I was working this place freestyle and while working. Nice. Freestyle at other bars. I was gonna ask you. Got out early enough. I have a story where it was like, I had some stories here and there about freestyle at other bars in the area. It is what it is like. Like because I know you mentioned before about sort of the like the social aspects of rapping, I guess. I want me to get more into it. Yeah.  Because I imagine it's the music industry is a bit different kind of abnormal everyday jobs. It's like this. First of all, this goes for anyone who grew up in my area or whatever in my city. Everyone had a code of respect. Sure. So when you're in a room, you shake hands with everybody in the room, even if you don't know them. You introduce yourself. So there's that like a consider. I would say you got, it's a bit of also just doing how to navigate and network. Because the music industry itself is very, it's all about when most of it's about who you know. So if you could find somebody and you could strike up a conversation, that's the best way to handle it. I've been like the nightlife for years. So a lot of my music connections in the beginning came from being at bars or clubs. And I would like network around. So my city was very entrepreneurial. So it's easy to find somebody who probably is trying to start out and do a thing and do their and be on their grind. People would hand out business cards everywhere from bars to clubs. Some of my past business card. So it all was about that. So I'd say there's that I'd say respect. You respect the people at the top and they respect you back. A lot of it had to do with respect with like respect and coming off with someone who gives respect. But at the same time, someone like that should be respected in a way too. Like, I don't know if it's because of my disability, but there's just times I in the back of my head, I'll hear a voice. And it's like, mother, prove yourself like right when I get up at that mic. And it's like, I feel like I don't know if it's what I've been through or the trauma I faced or what that was. But it's just it's always kind of there, whether I'm doing an open mic or it's performing anywhere. So I would say that it's kind of like either a positive self talk. Like, is that the kind of thing that you're going for? Is it like it's a bit of both guys and you put a lot of pressure on yourself? And you go through a lot, you're not just sleepless.  But at the same time too, it's what I would say too, when it comes to everything about the social aspect of the music industry. When I went to Toronto, it was a very kind of similar situation, but now you're around people who are even way more high up. Because when I applied for the places to be in Toronto for training, you know, they have an interview process. You get in, you go in there and you talk to a lot of people. I've been around Judo nominate artists, which are kind of like our top awards for Canada. I've been around people who said they worked with Drake and all that. So I would say people are relatively chill there. But at the same time, you just don't want to come off as like, I would say you don't want to be cocky, or don't want to be kind of like acting like you're some big man when you're not. Is that something that you've learned? Did you have to like learn that, or is it kind of... It's a little bit of both. I feel like there's times I probably bigged up myself in some situations where I felt like I could have done better. I don't have to be like that. You have to be so ego intuitive. But at the same time, though, you learn from it and you figure out how to do better next time. You go in there kind of shake hands. So it's like, it's a bit of doing yourself without, I would say, but also learning to keep humble, but also wanting more in a push and being on your grind, your hustle. Seems like you've got kind of like the social landscape quite sussed out. I mean, were there any situations that you had that really kind of, you know, being autistic, sometimes we struggle to sort of comprehend very complex things that aren't like said to us to our face. Do you find that there's been situations where perhaps you're not really getting things as become an issue? Oh, I got a funny story with you on this one. Stories are rolling. So at one point, this is where I look back and I say, I could have done better. So I knew this other other MC from the same area as I'm from and me and him knew each other for years. He's seen me from when I was 19. So trying to take it more seriously and whatever. And it's been iron out between me and him. He's forgiven me. I apologize for the way I was or whatever. As everyone was getting more opportunities to accept me. And I remember I went to, I think one of the events he was doing, I was like, at the end, been kind of complaining or whatever. And he kind of, he kind of like roasted me a bit too. But after said at the same time, well, we'll go and look for it. And the next thing you know, he sent me a message on. And he showed me that Toronto was looking for more people for a training program. And I put my application. Got it. First opportunity in Toronto. Nice. Nice. So that was like one way. It's like, you want opportunity?  Is there any like programs that are for like disabled people to get into the music industry? I would say my area, I'm still looking for them. Yeah. I'm still looking for them. The majority of the places I trained for hip hop and rap were more of like POC places. Some members of the LGBTQ community were there. There are other people with disabilities there too. Other people with ADHD and other situations too. So that is one thing to kind of consider. But at the same time though, you just want to go in there and just show your respectful. Yeah. I like that. I guess something that I want, something else that I wanted to ask was, you know, what kind of aspects of being autistic or being ADHD do you think has like contributed positively to your rapping, to your career? Okay. So the thing about this is we're getting to mental conditioning. Mental conditioning, when you're dealing with let us say a neurotypical brain, there's different parts you condition. Like they obviously condition like neurotypical rappers to think faster. Yeah. And all that stuff when I already have ADHD. You've already got that. I'm like, so you're already thinking that I have faster speeds than the average person. So that can help in a lot of situations with freestyling or coming up with songs. You kind of just stim a bit, have repetitive thoughts. You have a hook. Yeah. You have a hook or whatever and you just put it on your voice notes on your phone. You play it and you figure you put it all together. You get a hook in a verse. You just know how to like connect thoughts better, whether you're freestyling, writing a song. Also the energy helps you too.  It depends the situation I'm in. I have a very kind of, I would say, scattered way out create. I'm an organized mess. Yeah. Likewise. So it's like when it comes to, I would say that when it comes to the autistic part with helping you with rap, you're more creative than the average person. I swear I probably didn't lose my childhood imagination. Yeah. Yeah. So when you're coming up with similes, punchlines, metaphors and wordplay, it's a bit easier for you. That's how you're such a vivid, lyrical person because you picture it and you make it work in that kind of sense. I think it's interesting that, isn't it? Because autistic people, we tend to focus more on like, I guess, more direct communication like speaking just from one end to another rather than sort of morphing it. So I guess like the act of going in and writing lyrics and sort of all that wordplay and stuff would come quite naturally to us. Yeah. That's the part. Those are the parts of like being autistic helps with rapping and gets you through to people at the mic. I guess I'm guessing like the hyper focus is probably a good one as well. Yeah. It helps to express the average of the situation. Also, you're right, I'm a neighbor too. There was a bunch of other European immigrants there too about that part too. So let's say, I would say, yeah, it was everyone. Yeah. It's like you got to know how to combine certain parts of your disability and make them work. And once you figure out that part, mental conditioning, but it takes a long, long, long time. Do you ever get burnt out? Yes. You get burnt out behind this place. There was times I wanted to throw this out a window. Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, this is expensive. Yeah. You can spend hours down here and it can lose track of time. Yeah. So it's like, it does affect you. Rap is, it's a creative artistry form, but I feel it's like a competitive sport too. So when you're in these situations, you are very kind of, it could be very stressful too. You could be burned out. You can wake up and you're like your voice and feel like, right? You wake up with headaches. You got to take a moment to take a minute, breathe it out. It can be very, it could be taxing on you mentally too. That's by the same time, that's why you're conditioned too. So it's like when you're, the part of the mental conditioning is that now you got to deal with detents. Sometimes when I breathe behind the mic, it isn't just to catch my breath, but to slow my heart rate. Yeah. Yeah. Just slow my heart rate or to kind of slow the way your brain's thinking and adjust it to a BPM. I find it, I've had a really interesting sort of the dynamic of the creative industry because the people who, we know that people are more creative when they're relaxed, when they're a bit kind of slow, they're not rushed.  Or as quick as you can. Or you just kind of like, you know, it's like every day for me, I have to like come up with a new idea for a post and a reel and then try and sort out my videos and edit that to get that in and talk to this person.  But we live such a fast paced lifestyle. Sometimes it's hard to get that time. Yeah. So it's like, it's very, so with hip hop, it could be very fast paced. And so when it comes to even when I'm at the stage, I'm at the mic behind it. I don't do this every time, but like when, let us say I'm in a high prayer situation, I always wear a pair of sunglasses and a hat to kind of help keep myself focused in the zone. This is because I find, I find camera cameras daunting. I find the stage lights kind of daunting too. It could get to you because you're in such a high, that situation.  I'm breathing it out.  And it's like you're getting ready to... It's going for a fight. It's basically like you're conditioned to fight in that moment. And so I do my thing, do my set, and it's done for. But just the pressure that builds up. So every time I go up on stage, I'm always wearing... I'm going to show this right now. So this, this to me is like putting on armor. So you always like kind of yourself a bit ready. I might take off my headphones for a second.  Yeah, yeah. So it's like... It's kind of like mental conditioning, isn't it? When I put this stuff on, now it's time to go. And it's like, yeah. It's time to get up on a stage now. Yeah, yeah. But I think there's a lot in utility and like sensory things like sunglasses. I would say just always carry them around now because any moment could just be, they could tell you to freestyle right there. Yeah. And you just got to, you got to be ready to be conditioned right there. And then it's not like I have like a, it's not like I ever have a calm day with it. Well, I do, but when I'm out in public or whatever, like, well, it depends. If I'm just with the homies and it's a small little circle, I get freestyle without this on. Yeah. But when I'm on like a stage situation or like a venue situation, I put it on. I found it really interesting listening to you talk about it because it's, you know, as you're speaking about your experiences with your music career, I'm constantly making links to like my experiences as an athlete. Like it was the same for me. Like I just, there's been a lot of times actually before going on and fighting. I, I had panic attacks. I had meltdowns.  And the noises were awful. The lights are so bright. I wish I could have worn sunglasses. Like there's so many aspects to like actually going out there and doing it. That was so hard. It was the training that I found quite like this, the training that I liked mostly. I like fight, I like fighting and competing. And, you know, it gave me passion and a reason to do the training, but the actual experience of the, the environment was like very, very, I don't want to say triggering. So I don't like that word, but triggering is probably. I love hip hop though. Despite all this I went through. I love being a rap. I have a passion for this. I have a lot of respect for the old heads that came before me. Some of the people who train me to do this and have the patience to. Yeah. So for me, I, I love what I do at the end of the day. It's just, it could be a lot on yourself too. Just seeing that this was something that I started with a USB mic and dollar. I'm a headphones to now having all the humble beginnings, all of this. And we are, and just having stories of the pros just building makeshift recording studios. And at the same time though, it was a chill side of the environment to like, I can't drink when I'm, when I'm rapping because it just affects your focus behind the mic. Yeah.   So you need a bit or it's either you're drinking and you're like, have like a glass of water right next to you. Yeah. And so even then it's probably like a light beer. Yeah. So it's like, I, I enjoy it at the end of it. I would say my favorite parts of being in rap and hip hop, I would say is when you're performing, you feel it and that you got that fire in you to make that one of the best moments you had. And also just, I would say seeing it's like, Hey bro, you killed it tonight. Yeah.  And there are some situations too where I'd be at like a store, whatever, just chilling with myself and one of the other men to recognize me from a bar would ever be like, Hey, I saw you perform, perform a while back. And it's like, I got to get double take. Nice. Where are those, where are those men from? And it has turned into a shaking hands, talking it out for a bit. And that's probably it. So I would say at the end of it all, I enjoy what I do and what I make from it and everything that I feel like with anything that's worth fighting for in life, it's never easy. Nothingness. And in a way too, there's that I say to myself from my dish, from being a dishwasher on my line cook. Now there's times in my back in my head where it's like, it's either a life in the pit or life trying to go get it. Yeah, like it. Awesome. Did you ever do some like mental conditioning for fighting or anything? Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of the mental conditioning for me was just like, I used to go really hard on the training. Like, I probably have a trains like a lot. And I didn't eat much because I had to stay in like a weight category. I used to go out and like, when everyone was off for some holidays, kind of going out and meeting up and partying and stuff, I'd be like writing myself like a free session a day program. I'm like, I wore myself out so much of that time, but I just always just kept like going and grinding it. And I think knowing that I did as much as I could really helped like with my mind and it's like, well, I've done everything that I can for this, everything that I feel like I can. So yeah, I suppose the mental conditioning I think is a big part. I think also stepping back a little bit from the results of what happened and rather, you know, highlighting the things that I'm getting better at and getting good at getting worse at maybe and sort of adjusting because, you know, a lot of the competitions that I did were at the local level. Yeah. I did do the international stuff and the sort of the big competitions, but the local level stuff I needed to kind of take a step back. So like, okay, I don't really need to win this. I can just practice a couple of things in like actual competition and go for it. But I don't think I ever got the whole keep myself calm thing. I think I always really struggled. But the funny thing was is that everyone that saw me in competition, they were like, oh, you're like the chillest dude in the venue.  I'm like, really? So I just like, I feel like I need to go puke and like rock back and forth in the toilet. That's me sometimes. I have this weird thing where it's I'll be in such high pressure situations and I'll be like, yeah, sure. Yeah. Yeah. You just kind of like, it's funny. It's funny in a sense because I could beat a bit in wrestling too. And that was like a category thing too, where it was. I did. I did not do the weight stuff very well at all. I hardly anything. I was like, I'm at this high. I'm about six free away about 100 kilos. And I was the same height back then, but I weighed 72 kilos. So I was like a skeleton. Geez. It's all about it's a bit of taekwondo. It's all about like point scoring. So the longer legs that you can have for the weight class, the better. Mostly. But yeah, I've really, really, really enjoyed chatting to you. And I think it's, you know, it's always interesting to hear the stories of autistic people, ADHD people, sort of doing different, taking different routes in life. It's always really great to kind of get an insight into, you know, how life is for other people chasing different things. And I've really enjoyed, really enjoyed chatting to you. So I guess usually at the end of the podcast, I would kind of ask people for a song of the day. So if you wanted to do redemption, you could, you could do that. I don't know if you want to put maybe the parental advisor sticker on this one because of how much I, it's kind of crazy too, because when I'm around other like autistic people or men's are diagnosed to, we think a lot of neurotypicals are too soft. Yeah. And we had this thing about us where we're like, we'll both each other too. Like we were always like kind of, we had a different way that went out. So, so you find humor in different things. We kind of were a bunch of smile to the bull kind of people. Like yes, we thought we were being bull. Did we knew it? Because there was a bunch of other things that have been during all this and everything too, like political stuff and my area and we just kind of just sit back and we were like laughing of it and just getting it all together too. In terms like music too, I had family, my family sent music for years. My mom was a church singer. So was my nonna. So, but at the same time, I was just too crazy. So some of the day we're going to go with redemption and that will be in the 40 40 podcast son of the day playlist on Spotify. If you want to go check it out, we've got all of the songs from previous guests as well as today's guest, SD flame. I've got one final question to ask you before we wrap things up. Have you enjoyed your time on the 40 40 podcast? My first podcast interview ever did. This is your first one. Yes, it is. It's my first podcast interview ever did. I did a small press run and I have like two articles made about me. One's back in the programs, the one they did in a local news page. Well, you better you better blow up because then the episode is going to get like. I'm sure you will. I see a lot of like potential and stuff in your music and I like it. Yeah, really great to talk to you, man. I hope you have a lovely rest of your day. And to everybody listening, I hope you've enjoyed this episode. And if you want to get in contact, the contact details as always is. Well, you can go through my. So if you have enjoyed this episode, make sure to head over to my links. They're all always down below. You can check out the podcast on multiple different streaming services, Apple, Google, Spotify, and of course the video version over on YouTube. Thomas Henley. That's where it is. And if you want to stay up to date with the stuff that I'm doing, maybe you want to check out the blog blog articles, the reels. All of my social medias are at Thomas Henley UK, apart from YouTube. And if you want to get in contact with me to perhaps be on the podcast or to get me to do some training, public speaking, coaching, anything like that, go over to my website, Thomas Henley.co.uk and you'll be able to find a contact card on that page. Are there any links that you want to share about SD? For my link tree, for my Instagram, Spotify. If y'all like what you hear, I promise you, I'm releasing more. Come on. I'm trying to get my TikTok going again. I'm trying to get everything together. Went through a minor setback, but I want to like do more with it too and like be more open. That was like one thing I challenged myself to be on this podcast today. Be more open about my life. I really appreciate that. And it's really great to hear, especially if there's people who are watching sort of up and coming who are thinking of perhaps getting into an industry like the music industry. I'm sure your words and experiences have done a lot for them. I'd say my advice to any autistic person who wants to do what I do, I would say start with believing your own creativity. At the same time, realize your talent, but be willing to take criticism, learn to learn from criticism and start small, invest small before you end up getting way more into this and start blowing more money into this. That's just my advice to anyone who's watching this and wants to get into music and also the internet can help you too, but also connect with your local scene. Cool, man. Thank you very much for that. And with that, I hope you all have a very lovely day and I'll see you in the next episode of the 40 Autie Podcast. See you later, folks. Thanks. I appreciate having me.


Hello, everyone. My name is Martin Kusch. I'm professor for philosophy of science and the theory of knowledge at the University of Vienna in Austria. And over the next 45 minutes or so, I will tell you a bit about relativism, and particularly about relativism in the study of science. Now, we first need to get a rough idea of what we mean by relativism. And you might think that's easy enough to do, but like every ism in philosophy, so also relativism has many, many different meanings. Let me just give you a point of comparison. A famous American philosopher some 30 years ago also published a paper entitled Realism. And in this Realism paper, the author distinguished more than 80 different senses in which in the philosophy of morals and knowledge the term Realism is used. I would think that very much the same thing could be done for relativism as well. So even though I will give you now my definition, my shorthand definition of it, you should be aware of the fact that other philosophers might well not agree with that definition. So let me begin by giving you my definition, and rather than immediately jumping into the thorny issue of what relativism means in the study of science, let's first approach it through a case that perhaps it's more easy to appreciate. So let's take relativism in the domain of morals, of ethics. I think it's easier to see the structure of the relativist position there. So I think it's well documented that different cultures in different parts of the world have at least to some extent different moral principles that they seek to follow. So certain kinds of things might be allowed in one culture.  Something which in other cultures would be a port, the idea. So cultures differ to some extent in the kind of moral demands they put on their members. Let that be the first element of the relativist position. The next thing is to say that the moral demands that cultures put on their members, addressed to their members, are relative to something. They are relative to the overall conception of morality that people have in different cultures. Let that be the second principle. The first idea was moral ideas differ and the second moral judgments differ, moral beliefs differ. And the second idea is that they differ in a systematic form such that different cultures roughly come with different conceptions of morality. Let that be the second idea. The third idea now is the crunch of the matter. This idea is to say that when cultures differ in these ways and if cultures differ in these ways then there is no way of putting them into an order of who is right and who is wrong. It's impossible to rank cultures with respect to their moral conceptions. In some sense, all these different moral conceptions are equally justified or equally unjustified. That's roughly the structure of a relativist position. So let's step back from the case of morality and try to formulate the idea a bit more generally. Morality is one domain in which we judge but there are also other domains in which we judge. For example, about questions of tastes in aesthetics. We have the domain of knowledge. We have the domain of science and maybe we have other domains as well like the domain of religion. So the first element of relativist position is to say so there are these different domains but with respect to each domain we first of all find judgments people make in those domains. These judgments differ systematically with respect to different cultures, different background assumptions. And when we have those different background assumptions, these systems of rules by which we judge in those respective domains, then there is no way of, there's no neutral way of ordering these different conceptions as more or less correct. Let's work with that very rough idea of relativism to start with. Let's the first thing that we need to know that relativism is a general form of thinking about different domains. That also means incidentally that you can be a relativist in one domain and not be a relativist in another domain. So you might, for example, be a relativist about moral judgments but not be a relativist about epistemic judgments, judgments on whether someone knows or not, or whether someone is justified in what they say or not. So you can be a relativist in one domain, you may not be a relativist in another domain. We all are probably relativist in some domains. Probably most of us would intuitively think that when it comes to questions of taste, at least in some respects, different judgments are equally justified. When we say things like beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, that's clearly an expression of a relativist sentiment. The idea is then that different viewers of the same painting might have different standards of what constitutes a good painting or a bad painting. And when that is the case, if we do believe that, there is no way of telling which standard is absolutely right and which standard is absolutely wrong.


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Sir, Guru, the next question is from Sonia. Namaskaram, Guruji. I am from Berlin, with increased silence outside, inside noises are becoming very noisy. Could you shed some light on inner vibrations and the inner sound? Ooh! In Berlin, usually people don't call me Guruji because Guruji is a honorific. I'm very embarrassed with such things. Sadguru is a description. Just like saying an orthopedic or an ophthalmologist or a gynec or a neurologist, just like that Sadguru is just a description. I don't mind the description because it says an uneducated Guru, nobody comes and confronts me with scriptures because they know anyway I don't know it. Just to ensure that we don't spend time trying to debate, discuss something that we have no clue about and we have never bothered about. But Guruji is a honorific. Don't do that to me. I've lived in a certain way, in the sense.  It's very important for me because if they make any conclusions, then it's very hard to work with them. Confusion means at least you realize you don't know, which is good. If somebody comes to know by a very deep experience, that is fine with me. That's another state. But drawing nice conclusions about somebody is not necessary. Drawing bad conclusions about somebody is not necessary. So all honorifics come from this that people draw positive conclusions about somebody. The value of who I am is only when you simply look at me without any conclusions, you will see you will be so thoroughly confused. You've not paid enough attention to me because most of the time you're sitting, seeing me sitting here in a satsang or this kind of situation. So you have not seen me in various situations. If you see me in various situations, you will be thoroughly confused. It's a very good thing. That means you are unable to draw a conclusion. Because conclusion is death. Conclusion means no more possibility. If you draw a conclusion about me unknowingly as a seeker, you will draw a conclusion about yourself. That means seeking is over. Once you draw a conclusion, where is the seeking? You calling yourself a seeker is absolutely meaningless about the vibrations in Berlin. Well, outside vibrations have stopped. Is that what she's saying? Oh, the automobiles are not thundering around. Well, I also like to drive and ride, but it's all right. Maybe every year, we should think about this really as a world, as a generation. Every year, three weeks, no automobiles on the road, everybody stays home. Hello? What's the problem? Nothing will happen.  Oh, every other creature on the planet will celebrate. So if all the machines in Berlin have come to a standstill, the German automobiles are not thundering around. So now, I'm understanding the question, she's saying, how to manage interiority or what about the inner vibrations, what is that? Could you shed some light on the inner vibrations and the inner sound? Given that outside has become quiet, but the inner has become more noisy. Oh, inner or interiority has not become noisy, it's never been noisy. There is no such thing as noise in that region. It is just that because you are not busy, you're getting preoccupied. Most people normally think they are busy, but if you look at their lives, sixty percent of the time they're just preoccupied with something. This is like chewing the cud, you know? What happened yesterday, you're still chewing. This facility is not there in your body. Cows, goats, sheep, they all have this facility that they can eat today and after a few hours they can bring it back and chew the cud. Such a facility was not given to you in your body, so you have created one in your mind. This is an evolutionary problem. You're not willing to come out of the four-legged state that you want to chew yesterday's cud. In the southern Indian mysticism and yoga, we look at people and if they are either enjoying or suffering, only what has happened in the past. Because of past activity, now they're enjoying something, but doing something totally different now, not understanding that they're just enjoying past benefits and it may run out anytime. We say, are you Palaisadam? Palaisadam means old rice, that means this is old food. Enjoying old food, what we ate yesterday, right now it is still in terms of energy and strength is still working in our body. Similarly, what we did yesterday or ten years ago or a lifetime ago, maybe still we are benefiting from it, but if you're not doing something right now to enhance this, this will run out. Old food will rot after some time. What was very wonderful will become very nasty after some time. A whole lot of so-called successful people in the world go through this at different stages in their life that they will be enjoying the results and karmas of the past and they think everything is fantastic. They live vantonly now. One day suddenly it hits them, not necessarily from outside. Most of the time it's from within. Their own psychological structure, their own body goes into such a relapse. They can't believe that this happened to them. This is because you're living on old food. It's important you cook fresh food every day. It's very important. This is why present karma is very important. I want you to understand there is no noise in your interiority. There is no vibration in your interiority. There is no sound in your interiority. It is all in your head. This is because you're chewing the old cud. Now, if you were busy with some activity, you would forget some of the things that are happening in your head today. But once your hands are not engaged, then you see this will go on. So what should I do? Well, we have taught you many ways. You don't try to stop it because you cannot stop it. The only way is you can distance yourself from it. Well, there are many methods to distance yourself. If you're doing Shambhavi or Shunya, definitely there's a powerful process. Otherwise you can do Isha Kriya. If you don't know any of these things right now, the simple thing is just this. You have to just look at yourself and see.  We don't know where it begins, where it ends.   Everything is from this basis that you think you're the center of the universe.   So you just look at your thoughts. In the context of larger cosmos, now the virus is threatening your life.   The problem is you think it is smart and now when it troubles you, you want it a little away.  It will not go. It will not leave you. The moment you think you are smart, your thoughts cannot leave you.  Just know this.  In terms of life, in terms of existence, you really nothing, okay? Socially you may be something. Among fools, fools will shine. That doesn't mean anything as a life.  Yes, you are me, I'm saying. It can just knock us off.  If you understand this, naturally there will be a distance between you and your thought process. Once there is a distance between you and your thought process, it doesn't matter what you're thinking at all.


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