So, who here is for the RFID talk? Everyone. It's going to be a quick 20 minute talk. It's something I've been working on for a while. It's not 100% complete yet, so you'll see a lot of kind of missing things or something where I'll say, hey, this is not perfect but I'm working on it. But yeah, so real-time RFID cloning in the field. This is not something new, but it's just, it's a different way of doing things. And you'll see me fiddling with this thing the whole time because I'm trying to get it to work before the demo slide comes on, so one second. Let me turn this one on. They sound really cool when they start up. I always get weird looks from people like I'm about to die, aren't I? So that may not be me stealing someone's badge. So who am I? I'm not going to spend too much time. I'm Dennis, a lot of you know me. Who here's been to one of my other talks before? I spoke twice, everyone. I'm an adversarial engineer at Lars Consulting and I'm a Houstonian, a current Houstonian, and I found at Houston Locksport, a lockpicking club, we just hang out, drink beers and pick locks. And haha, Houston Area Hackers Anonymous or Association or whatever you want to call it. For those who, if you're in Houston, you find yourself in Houston around the same time we do any of those meetups, totally stop by, it's awesome. I spoke previously at DEF CON 23 and DEF CON 24. Okay, so, yeah, demo is totally not going to work, but RFID, radio frequency identification, so you all know what RFID is, right? Who here has an RFID card on them?  I mean, who here's staying at this hotel? All right? RFID cards. So just a little bit background what radio frequency identification is. It's electronic access control for many companies and organizations, hotels and what have you. Even some homes, personal homes have it if you have like one of those Samsung smart locks that supports RFID technology. It's a contactless form of authentication. So you have a wireless badge, kind of like what I have in my hand here. It's either a tag or a badge. They come in many different form factors and you present it to a reader on the wall or on the door, and if it's the correct card, it lets you in. As far as hard technology-wise, there's two different types of technologies that's going to require two different types of readers. You have the low frequency technology that runs on 125 kilohertz, and that's typically your HID prox and dollar flex IO prox and some other manufacturers and vendors that make that kind of technology. It's the older technology. It is commonly referred to as less secure because it doesn't support cool things like cryptography and stuff. But then you have high frequency which operates on a 13.56 megahertz, and that's where HID i-class comes in, my fair, and others that you've heard of. This is a technology that actually supports cryptography and mathematics and a lot of other things between the card reader to make it harder to clone a card and attack the reader. You'll hear commonly referred to as credentials, card stickers, tags. You guys have all different sorts of media that have this technology embedded in it, and a lot of devices may have an RFID tag in it and you may not even know it. If you have ever gotten a garage remote or a smart key from an apartment, there might be an RFID tag in there for the key management computer or something. So here's just some examples. You see employee badges, ISIS back when I was called ISIS. Now, what is it called? The serophagus detection thing? You see something like that, whatever. But you have these badges that people will wear on their person at all times even when they're not at work. You have people wearing it on their lanyard over the neck and it's swinging around or they have it on either left side or right side just pinned to their belt. And what that allows us to do as pen testers, I'm going to assume everyone here is legit. They're pen testers. They're not like black hat hackers. But as pen testers, if we're targeting a specific company we want to get in physically, then we can see how they're wearing their badges and target that. So if we have a device like one of these long range readers I'm going to talk about, and we see that they're wearing their badge on their left side hip, then we can put our pretty reader in a backpack and walk by someone passing by their left side and try to get a good badge read from that. So here's kind of who is there. Here's kind of sneaky little random person. I don't know who's sitting who knows this guy has a badge. So I sit next to it and in my backpack is one of these RFID readers. And I'm just close enough to get a quick read. And I'm acting nonchalant. I'm trying not to be suspicious other than the fact that I look like me. And just walk away. And now I have that person's badge. So what did I use? I used one of these long range readers. So there's a few different types of long range readers that you guys have probably seen. Like I said, this is nothing new. Bishop Fox did a talk like this what two, three years ago where they talked about weaponizing one of these long range readers. So you have the Maxi Prox 5 375. And that's the low frequency long range reader that HID manufactured and sold at some point. And it can read HID Prox cards and it can actually read it from a range of 18 to 24 inches. That's somewhere between like two to three feet. It's actually pretty good. It's a good read range.  Damn, who said that?  I was a few feet away from that person at that bench. Or maybe in an elevator. So here's what it looks like. Except I took it apart. It's got a big antenna coil that's energized and will constantly send out power like just, I'm not a physics major, but radio frequencies. I'm not going to try to fake it. And if a card is present within the field close enough, it will power that card and that card will respond back with its information and we get a read. Same thing with the R90. Those are for the high frequency cards, the eye class cards. And those, because of the technology and the physics and the science, it doesn't read as long of a range as the low frequency. So it's kind of 12 to 16 inches. But it's still good enough for what we want to do. And that's this one here. That's a cover. That's what it looks like. This thing. And these aren't like hacker devices. These are devices, by the way, they're small enough to fit in the backpack and you can find them on eBay. They're probably expensive but you can find them on eBay. These devices aren't hacker devices. They are devices that manufacture or like building owners and anyone who has a facility can buy or vendor can buy to allow legitimate users to scan their badge from a distance. For example, if they're in the car, you don't want the user to have to get out and go to the reader and scan their badge. But if they can do it from their car, the long range reader is going to provide enough of a read range to do that. And so you see them all over the place. If you pay attention, go to like garages or some apartments that have those or are like parking lots for companies, they'll have those long range readers. Now don't go stealing those because they're connected somewhere so you'll create a lot of damage. But often like maybe a building gets decommissioned or demolished and they take these and they sell them or they donate them to some warehouse, electronic parts warehouse so you can go look for them. So what do one of these look like? So this is what one kind of looks like normally.  That's the normal circuitry that it comes with to kind of power that coil and do all of its magic mumbo jumbo to make RFID reading work. And then there's just often there's four wires sometimes is more but the minimum is four. You got two wires for power on ground and you got two wires for the weekend data one and weekend data zero. And those will often feed all the way back to some wall through some wall through some controller that interprets that information. So what we can do is if we were to grab one of these we can modify it. So you can see here on this picture I put extra circuitry in there. The first one on the bottom being a battery source. In this case I'm using 18650 batteries. I'll kind of go into detail a little later. But that battery source is going to allow me to power this reader on its own and not have to be connected to an external source. And then there's a series of DC boost converters and buck converters. Sounds advanced but it really isn't. But just to kind of do power management like boost the voltage up to 12 volts to power the reader then back down to five volts to power Raspberry Pi. And then we have the Raspberry Pi which is the brains of this operation here. What the Raspberry Pi does is it allows for wireless connectivity so I can spin up a Wi-Fi access point. By the way that's the new Raspberry Pi Zero W. It's awesome. It's ten bucks and it has wireless built in. And I can host servers. It's a Linux operating system so I can host like web pages and servers and stuff. And what this Raspberry Pi will do is it's connected to the weekend data wires of this reader. And it'll interpret and automatically decode with Python code that has been released like ten minutes ago. I'll talk about it. It's terrible code. Don't clap. While you're clapping I'm going to see if my demo is going to work. Probably not. Turn off your Wi-Fi devices please. And whoever is trying to crack that network stop. So it's going to automatically decode and interpret and decode the weekend data. And it's going to get and present. Oh it worked. Present all the information for you. Don't clap yet because I haven't started the demo yet. So I'm going to speed through it to get to the demo. So the Raspberry Pi is the brains of the operation. It does everything. So let's see if this is going to work for me. So I'm connected to something. Oh yes. Boop. Let's see. Let's see. Open. Okay. So what I have here now is I had to use my backup reader. But this is the high frequency reader. And what it's, it's currently powered on, powered by these batteries. And there's a Raspberry Pi it's connected to. The Raspberry Pi has Wi-Fi enabled. So it has an access point and I'm connected to that access point. I'm just going to go ahead and get a read now just in case that work. Ah! It's something broke. So what happened, what's happening is every time it gets a read it's going to automatically, there's a web page that you connect to. So you connect to this over Wi-Fi via your phone or your laptop. And you go to this web page and it's just web sockets. What it has is it has a table with all the Wigan information in it. And that's going to be your Wigan binary, your Wigan hex data, and your card number, facility code. Right now this is an unknown card so let me get a quick legitimate card and see what happens. And what's cool about this is for those who remember or who have ever even made the Bishop Fox one, the Bishop Fox one is great. And it gave me kind of the incentive to make it better because with the Bishop Fox one when you get a card read you have to go back to your base wherever, take the SD card out, decode the Wigan binary data as you see there and just figure out how to decode that and go from there. But what mine does is if you see in the bottom reads here, I'm actually not going to read this card because I realize it's probably not a number I should be displaying. But if you see this over here you see this is the Wigan data stream. This is the Wigan binary you'll typically get with the Bishop Fox from the SD card. What it'll do is it'll give you the hex data and this is cool because you don't have to do anything. You don't have to automatically decode that by hand. It'll actually give you this and this is what you need for the Proxmark. All you do is you pass this code to the Proxmark and boom you've cloned a card. And then it'll even decode these numbers for you. 18, 221, that's the facility code, that's the card number and in case it's a specific format it's a card, this is a card number without the facility code. So this will automatically decode based on the specific format. For those who are familiar with HID there's different formats like 26-bit, 35-bit, 37-bit. This will do all that magic for you. All you got to do is get a card read and then copy and paste this into Proxmark. Super easy. What I also have if this didn't die on me, there we go. Oops. Oh. That's not my dog. That's Doug's dog. He's Doug from Austin. Her name is River. She's cute. So let's say I have this thing in my backpack. There's a bag here and I'm in the elevator and I want to get someone's read. But I don't know if I'm positioned right. So what you do is, this is an Android app. It's on my phone. And what I'll do is I will get close enough to that person to get a read. You can still see it. And let's, where's my card? Is this a good card or a bad card? So you get a read. And what happens is it automatically pops up on that screen and as you heard you get a notification. So even when you're not focused on it, I get a notification. Of course don't let it sound, let it vibrate. But now you have in your pocket, it's vibrating and yes I got a good read. And by the way I have a pebble watch and I got it on my pebble watch too. So I can see facility code and card number on there. So I know exactly who I just got. And that's pretty much, there's an Android app. The Android app we're still kind of working on. I haven't had time to finish it but that'll be released real soon once I get that finished. So that's pretty much to meet of it. Now there is another cool thing unfortunately, let me try to get it. One cool thing I really want to show you guys but I don't think it will be able to because the Wi-Fi is not working is with the low frequency reader and I'm slowly working on the high frequency reader. I have this. This is currently very big. There's a Raspberry Pi in there, a Proxmark in there and a battery. What this will do is it's the satellite system. It's when you turn this on, which I'm going to turn it on right now, it's a battery powered, oh five minutes, thank you. It's a battery powered Raspberry Pi. This wirelessly connects to that access point from that reader. So let's say Tim and I are in an assessment and Tim has the RFID reader and I have this satellite kind of at least 30 feet away from him. When he gets a read, it's going to automatically send that information to the satellite system, satellite Pi, and it's going to automatically write a card. So all you do is just take it out and you have a copy. So I'm going to try like for one second to see if this is going to work. Let's find out. Yeah, there's too much wireless here so unfortunately I can't demo it but what I can do is I will hmm someone if someone wants to offer a village I can hang out with tomorrow. I can have all this stuff up and you guys can all play with it. But it hit me up on Twitter. Tomorrow I'll have all this stuff and I'll bring it somewhere probably to Lockpick Village and I'll just let you guys see how all this works. But yeah, what this will automatically do is it will automatically clone that card and so in seconds you steal someone's badge and you have a complete copy and you just walk into the building. That's pretty much it for that. So I'm going to rush through making your own. I don't have a lot of detail here because the reason for that is I'm posting most of the detail on GitHub. I've already written quite a bit of detail on there. Once Tim, Tim right there, Tim McGuffin, once he helps me figure out how to draw a schematic diagram I'll draw a schematic diagram on how you can make one of these your own but it's fairly simple. So making your own all you need is you need of course you need one of these readers, Spider and eBay or whatever. If you pay me enough money I can give you that one but it's a lot of money. You need a battery source. Battery can be anything. It has to support three amps so if you just use like a few double A's probably not going to work but a bunch of double A's will work just like Bishop Fox's but I like to use 18650 batteries. My batteries support 10 amps each. They're awesome and they have a protection circuit so when you screw something up and I've screwed something up the protection circuit will hopefully prevent your reader from dying and that's happened that's another story for later. Then all you need it, I got to read. Who read my card? Then you need a DC boost converter so if you have a battery source like these two batteries here only support seven volts. The boost converter will boost it up to 12 volts so it can actually power the reader but then you need a buck converter so you don't burn your Raspberry Pi. That's going to bring the 12 volts down to five volts to power the Pi and then of course you get the Pi Zero with all the magic and of course wire. So with the Pi Zero just install Raspbian, Jesse Light. I see everyone taking pictures so I'm going to upload this to the GitHub after this. But there's a GitHub, yeah take a picture of that, fine. There's the GitHub link. Download Raspberry, Jesse Light, install on the SD card, put on the Raspberry Pi and there's Python code and a setup script. All you do is you run the setup script after you install Raspbian, Jesse Light and that should install everything for you. It should install and set up a Wi-Fi access point and install the Python code necessary to to to get all this to work and then on the GitHub I'll show you how to wire the GPIO pins to get that to go. It's five simple pins, power, ground, data one, data zero, four pins, not five. And then for the automatic cloning, none of that's going to be on GitHub yet because I'm still working on it, but it's simple. It's just a Proxmark, any version with the Raspberry Pi and a battery. That's all it is. So if you go to my GitHub, which I've just made this public, how do I switch tabs? I can't see my mouse. There it is. Here you'll see there is a setup script down here. So once you get Raspbian, Jesse Light on a Raspberry Pi, just run that setup script. It should do everything automatically. I'm going to be working on getting a Raspberry Pi, a Raspbian image that has all this done. I already have that image, but it's a 16 gig DD of a SD card. I have to figure out how to make it a 2 gig SD card without actually having, unless someone has a 2 gig SD card they can lend me. No? Okay. But down here there's a bunch of information on how to set it up and as the day, as the week, as time goes by, I'm going to be updating it, making it more clear and adding more diagrams to get it to work. It's been pretty busy last few months, so I haven't had a lot of time, but I'm going to focus on that. So that's pretty much it. I'm out of time. So questions. Questions. I guess I'm out of time, so I'm going to have to like step down here and I can answer questions or outside in the hall. So is there anything else I need to? All right. Thank you so much. Sorry for the demo fail, but I'll have it tomorrow. Thank you.


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I'm Peter Taylor and I'm an organo-silicon chemist. Here's some silicon and when you oxidize it you get silica, sand. But if you treat it appropriately with organic groups you get silicones and they're the things you use to seal your bath. But silicones have a whole range of other uses. They're used for cupcake holders for baking. They're used for in contact lenses. They're used in the materials you treat your brick with to make them damp proof. And we do a whole range of work with organo-silicon materials. Here's some of the resins that you make and we're also interested in silicones. They're used in personal care products, in particular in kind of hair shampoo and the like. Something which is obviously pretty important to me.


Feedback. Listen to your learners. It's essential as educators that we listen to our learners to gauge their opinions and improve our teaching. There are several modal activities for surveying students. Here we look at feedback, which allows you to create your own questions of different types. In this feedback activity, the student is asked to give her opinion on the course. She has multiple choice questions, short text questions and a longer text question. This student didn't use the Moodle app. But when our second student completes the feedback and responds yes to the Moodle app question, note that he's then presented with some extra response-specific questions. With the feedback activity, you can make questions display dependent on previous responses. Our teacher, Sam, in their basic French course, adds a feedback activity by enabling Edit Mode, clicking anywhere between activities or add an activity or resource, and then from the activity chooser, selecting Feedback. Feedback is an activity because learners interact with it. So we can click once to go straight to the setup screen or click the I icon for more information and then press the Add button bottom right. We give it a name and an optional description which may be displayed on the course page by ticking the box. Other settings can be expanded by clicking the links. Availability allows you to set a period of time when the feedback will or will not be available. In question and submission settings, you can choose whether the submissions are anonymous or user names are recorded. Note that this is not totally secure as the logs will still reveal identities. You can allow users to submit more than once. You'll need this for anonymous feedback to be notified when feedback is completed and to have questions auto-numbered or not. After submission, once students have completed the feedback, you can provide a link to the analysis, you can add a message of thanks or information, and you can give a link to another part of the course if you feel it's necessary. In activity completion, to track that students have accessed the feedback activity, do we want them to manually click to confirm they've seen it, or do we want it automatically marked complete when they've simply viewed it, or submitted feedback? No need to select View as well as the requirement to submit. To alert course participants that a feedback activity has been added or updated, click Send Content Change Notification. When we save and display, we can add our questions by clicking Edit Questions. We can add questions from a template or import questions, but Teacher Sam is going to create their own choosing from the dropdown. Here's a multiple choice question. We tick the box if we want to force students to answer this question, and we can allow one or multiple answers, and we add the answers. Setting Not Selected to Yes means this doesn't appear as an option. Answers appear on separate lines. Here's a short text answer question. It's worth experimenting with text field width and maximum characters accepted. Now we can continue our feedback by adding more questions, but let's try making some questions dependent on previous responses. As we make this new multiple choice question about the Moodle app, we give it a label. This is important for future reference. We then have to add a page break, and we need to add another page break at the end of the dependent questions. So we're enclosing them on their own page. For each conditional question we add, we must choose a dependence item. That's the label we added before. So this question depends on the question with the label Moodle app. Then we must choose the answer our new question will depend on. We select Yes, because we only want the question to appear if students tell us that yes, they use the Moodle app. And you see these dependent questions appear in grey to the teacher. Once we've added any dependent questions, it's important to remember to add that second page break, and then we can continue with any further questions which apply to all students. It's useful to know we can export these questions or save them as a new template. Once students have submitted feedback, we can click Analysis and Export to Excel. We can view the responses in graphical format and also as chart data. And we can download and view individual responses. To summarise, feedback allows you to listen to learners and improve their course experience.


Is a speaker, I beg to move the following motion, standing in my name, whereas no Mr. Speaker, whereas he is provided on the section 3 of the National Sabit and Development Bonds Act Cap 15.25, the act that by the authority of a resolution of parliament the minister responsible finance may raise by the issue of savings bonds inside and outside St. Lucia monies up to the amount of 2 billion 400 million for financing such capital expenditure and for such debt refinancing as he or she determines and whereas it is further provided along the section 4 of the act that the bonds shall be issued in such form and such terms and conditions as minister responsible for finance directs. and whereas the minister of finance considers it is necessary to raise on the regional government securities market of a private placement at a maximum interest of 7% per annum the amount of 32 million 100,000 for financing the 2023-2024 budget, the amount of 433 million 500,000 for refinancing existing debt. and whereas the minister of finance considers it is necessary to raise on the regional government securities market of a private placement at a maximum interest of 7% per annum the amount of 2 million 100,000 for financing the 2023-2024 budget and the amount of 433 million 500,000 for refinancing existing debt. Mr. Speaker, the resolution before us today is to seek approval for the government of St. Lucia to borrow by way of bond financing as follows 32.1 million for refinancing the 2023 budget for the issuance of bonds on the regional government securities market for private placement at a maximum rate of 7%. Mr. Speaker, I want to make it clear that the only extra borrowing is the 32.1 million dollars on the bonds market. You may recall Mr. Speaker that we took a position that we would finance in our budget through longer term instruments instead of short term instruments with Mr. Speaker. And that policy decision is even more important now either a strategic decision that we took that was necessary because you know now Mr. Speaker how interest rates are fluctuating and allow them to fluctuate in an upward direction. So the decision to anchor government financing government projects through longer term instruments Mr. Speaker, the wisdom of that decision is clear Mr. Speaker. The resolution also seeks Mr. Speaker to raise 433.5 million for refinancing existing debt for the issuance of bonds on the regional government securities market for private placement at a maximum rate of 7%. Mr. Speaker, again the interest rate is important Mr. Speaker, 7% maximum rate and again we have to hope that because of circumstances will be on our control Mr. Speaker these interest rates may change and it's something that we have to consider and it's something that we as a government have to look at closely Mr. Speaker. Already in our analysis of our expenses we've had to increase I think 131 million Mr. Speaker our expenses on interest which may change Mr. Speaker and that is because of circumstances that we have no control over and now with what's happening in the United States according to the debt ceiling that we have issues in the US Mr. Speaker we never know what might happen to interest rates because of that Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, accessing funds from the regional, the LGSM has shown a reduction in the cost of bonds in the government of St. Louis. This is significantly beneficial in light as I said for the recent interest rates on the national capital market Mr. Speaker. Government is optimistic of successfully undertaking the 2023 budget borrowing requirement of a 2.1 million from the capital market to finance this year's fiscal budget Mr. Speaker. Investor confidence in the government of St. Louis papers remains high and we are optimistic and we expect this to continue in this budget here Mr. Speaker. This is the lowest amount which we have to raise on the capital market for 10 years. The recent GDP growth rate of 18.1% coupled by the projected increased economic growth have positioned St. Lucia for positive increases in revenue and grand funding thereby reducing our reliance on debt Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to repeat, because of the economic growth that we are experiencing in the country, because of the growth in revenue Mr. Speaker, because of the overall management of the economy, there is a high demand for St. Lucia's paper. There is very high demand for our paper Mr. Speaker. The investors have shown confidence in our paper that was happening last year and this year because of our projections Mr. Speaker. And we believe that that confidence will remain high and we will be able to successfully borrow the 32 million dollars on the market Mr. Speaker, on the RSN based on our experience and based on what is happening in our economy Mr. Speaker. So Mr. Speaker, in terms of borrowing on the short term on the RSN, we think we have no issues as far as that is concerned Mr. Speaker. And that's not what we are seeing, that's what the market is seeing because as soon as our bonds reach the market they sell very quickly Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the other, as you know, we projected that you would borrow 288.7 million to finance the overall budget. So out of that 256.6 million will come from long term instruments. 256 million for long term instruments and 32 million from short term insurance Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, some of these loan funds already allocated the projects and I've started this bussments and I expected to continue Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, again with these long term loans they are for a longer period and we hope that they are not unduly affected by what is happening in the interest rates in the market Mr. Speaker which we have no control over. So we are confident that we will raise the 288.7 million to fund our projects Mr. Speaker. What's important is implementation. We have to get these projects off the ground Mr. Speaker. The finance is available but we have to get the projects off the ground Mr. Speaker. And I urge every minister to look at the projects in their respective ministries and work with the poor men's secretaries to get these projects off the ground. Our rate of implementation Mr. Speaker is still not what we are desiring Mr. Speaker. And I come to a bug bear which is the Millennium Highway project. The Millennium Highway Mr. Speaker is more than a year overdue. A project that funding is available. Funding is available. Funding was available Mr. Speaker. But we risk, we risk the worst happening if we cannot get this project going Mr. Speaker. I know the minister of infrastructure is on the ball. I have told him that we need to get some solution to this problem Mr. Speaker. The time for excuses is over. We have to make or break Mr. Speaker. Because a project of that importance cannot be one year overdue Mr. Speaker. With no sign of completion. The bridge that was part of that project. The bridge is completed. Waiting for the highway to connect to the bridge Mr. Speaker. So Mr. Speaker, talk about implementation. That project comes to mind. Another project that we have to deal with implementation on Mr. Speaker is the Yubek project Mr. Speaker. Again we have to ensure Mr. Speaker that in the Yubek program on leashing the blue economy the money that we have available for that project. The ministry of agriculture will have to ensure that we use that money for the purposes that the money was determined for. We have the financing, the financing available, we have implementation Mr. Speaker. I held a meeting with the world bank this week and they will maintain the rate of implementation Mr. Speaker. So much so they have decided that they will help us in procurement. So we can get our procurement, do our procurement in a fashion that they can approve. So we can get these projects going Mr. Speaker. Talk about projects Mr. Speaker. The DVRP which is the disaster vulnerability reduction project. That project is coming to an end at the end of next month. That was the largest grant funding, the largest loan grant funding that we've had for a long time. That project is coming to an end Mr. Speaker. So we hope that the world bank will after the post project review look favourable upon us to see if we can extend that project. Because there is still quite a bit of infrastructural work to do in the country Mr. Speaker. So Mr. Speaker, the world is implementation. That's the world implementation and we hope that this budget rate of implementation can improve Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the 423.5 million represents instrument maturing which need parliamentary approval. Out of the abundance of clarity it is not new loans. It is not new money. It's a bonds that are in the system that need to be refinanced. It will not increase our debt to GDP ratio. Let me make it be clear Mr. Speaker. Let me make it be clear. The 423.5 million represents instrument maturing which will need parliamentary approval for them to be reissued. It is not new money. The government's borrowing requirements Mr. Speaker. At 288.7 million, there is 2.1 million in short term paper and 256.6 million in long term loans Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the government of St. Lucia is confident of successfully undertaking the 2020 borrowing requirement from the capital market to finance the budget. We believe Mr. Speaker that because of the buoyancy of our economy we can maintain interest rates of not more than 7% to continue financing the budget Mr. Speaker. So Mr. Speaker, on this note I would ask members to support us Mr. Speaker in looking for for 2.1 million dollars of new money and 435.5 million for refinancing existing debts for the issuance of bonds on the regional securities market Mr. Speaker. I thank you.


Okay, you are with our live at Q&A here with Jason Doyle. We've had loads of questions coming in so thank you so much. So first off Jason, how you doing? Yeah, not too bad. It's nice weather and I guess it's going to be a tough night. Yeah, nice weather indeed. Okay, well we've got some good questions come in. First of all, I mean they're groundbreaking. Julian wants to know what did you have for lunch? We had calamari and just the normal boring chicken caesar salad so it's something light but I always wanted to have some dessert on my sweet tooth but couldn't do it on race day. Okay, fancy pants and calamari. Alright, Tonio says what's your goal for the rest of the season? I guess to finish off my league racing on a positive. We've had a lot of negative feedback this year and also bad results but also the grand paris need to step it up and get past the top 8 and into a metal position. And also we've got to try to stay safe now because it's been a few years with a lot of injuries and I want to get back on top again. Okay, so Craig says if you could race with three past riders or present riders, who would it be and why? Definitely Jason Crump. Obviously he's the rider I've always looked up to, Eric Gunderson. I've watched him since I was a little boy and then Michael Lee. These guys are so naturally talented and I guess you've got to look off their styles and how they ride a bike to kind of imitate the same kind of style. Okay, good. Alright, well Paco Castagna, we hear this is an inside joke. We'd like to know what is your favourite sauce to go with your Parmesan cheese? Can you explain what he's asking about? Yeah, back in Norwich, Paco come over for a normal Aussie barbecue and he brought over some Italian Parmesan cheese and he also made his smashed up avocado and I'm not sure he wouldn't tell us our special ingredient to his sauce but it was nice and we mixed it along with a couple of wines and it was a nice night. Okay, two worlds colliding there. Alright, David says what's your favourite track in the whole world? I'd say Torrin. I've always enjoyed it but I've also had some tough times there but it's not just one track when everyone says what's your favourite track? Obviously there's many tracks but it depends how they prepare them and also how well you do that night. Okay, alright and Jess wants to know what's your biggest achievement other than being world champion? I guess getting into the Grand Prix, I never thought that was going to happen and also winning the Golden Helmet in part of its last year. That was two main goals that I always achieved for. I never thought about being world champion, I always wanted to get in the Grand Prix so the main achievement would have been the Golden Helmet and to be in the Grand Prix is a massive thing for me. Amazing, okay and looking forward to tonight? Definitely, it's going to be a tough night but I feel very good tonight. The bikes are working really well and we're trying some different things and hopefully it's a step up from when we were riding on the World Cup. We've done really well with different setups so hopefully it does the same tonight. Amazing, thanks so much Jason. That was your Q&A with Jason Doyle.


Welcome to my show. Today I'm going to have an interview with one of the most fascinating actors in movie history. This man's story can't be told in a single book. It can't be told in a single documentary. This man has touched the lives of so many famous people it will make your head spin. I'm talking about the people that are icons in American history. With me today and responsible for this interview is my dear friend Rob Baldacci. Rob, thanks for setting this up. Gary, thank you. This is going to be exciting. We're looking forward to it. This is going to be one of our best without question. The theme has been, quote, the mob in our last three shows. But this gentleman has had his foot in every possible place you can think of. Ladies and gentlemen, we have Gianni Russo. And Gianni, his first role, was in The Godfather, Godfather I. He was in Godfather II, and since then he's been in 46 other motion pictures and 60, 60 television shows and motion pictures to his credit plus books, interviews, everything. Gianni, welcome aboard. Thank you so much for joining us. No, thank you for having me, man. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Rob, you're in New England. We're in Portland, Portland, Maine.  But things didn't work out. But we're still pleased to have you and interviewing you today via Zoom. And you're only missing a lot of the dinner, Gianni. That's all you're missing. You're free love to dinner like you need one. Well, the next thing we want to work on with Gianni is to get, bring him up here with his nightclub act, which is at some point, Gianni, during this interview, I'd like you to talk a little bit about what you're doing. I will, please. Yeah, absolutely. But I think a good thing to start off with Gianni. And, you know, I've seen many interviews. I've read your book. And I think the quote from De Niro says it all. Gianni Rousseau walks the walk, talks the talk, what a life, a worthy read. For anybody that hasn't read this book, and this is a bestseller, I couldn't put it down, Gianni. It was a page turner from one minute to the next. And I know you're going to be coming up with a new book here pretty soon, which we want you to talk about when you have a moment or two. No, definitely. But growing up, you grew up in Little Italy. Tell us a little bit about your family and what happened to you as a young kid, which I think kind of sets the stage for what happened later. Well, it definitely did.  I thought we had the biggest family in the world, but that was the thing that, you know, had a respect used to call elderly people aunts and uncles. With that said, that all changed August 9, 1949. I got polio and I was one of the first kids to get it. And they quarantined me in Bellevue Hospital, which is the state hospital on 30th Street and First Avenue, which I walked past it yet. The building is still there that I was in the old one, but they've rebuilt blocks in Bellevue Hospital since then. But it changed my life forever. And I wouldn't change a day of that. I mean, believe me, I think going through that, not like our children or grandchildren, with all of the respect to who they are, I had to survive. And I survived watching 2300 kids pass in five years that I was there.  Janney, you were hospitalized for five years? Yes. Straight quarantine. No visitors. Not even your family, your mother and father? No, nobody. Which in a while, for a while there, I was getting very bitter because my birthday was approaching December 12th, which I was there four and a half months. And I asked Dolores Barone, who was Carlo Gambino's niece, thank God, she was there. And I say that away because he told her, there's a kid from the neighborhood looking after him, not realizing why he would say that to later on in my life. But she used to give me the extra jello in the pudding and give me a hug at the end of the night, which basically kept my sanity. And Janney, there was a maintenance guy that worked in the ward who she warned you about, correct? Her name, his name was Harold. As I got older, when I was young, I was a good looking guy. And as I was getting 10 or 11 years of age there, she warned me about this guy. And, you know, it's not like today where we have so many ways, means of communication giving you these pointers on these kind of people. But I didn't know anything about it.  They wouldn't give you a bedpan anymore once you had some mobility. And fortunately, my right side was so strong with my left side that was paralyzed. So what I did, I crawled out of bed and slid into the floor and got to the railings all along the walls and dragged myself to the bathroom. And one day there's porters broom, these little short rooms that they use in theaters and they call them porters brooms. And I just tuck it into my right arm. I don't know why, but thank God I did. And I would go to the bathroom and not in any hurry to get back. And I couldn't stand that a urinal had to sit on a bowl.  And I filed the end of the broom handle to a very sharp point with the ground in the floor, never knowing why I did it. But thank God I did it because one night how God became and tried to attack me, basically. And I killed him. And you killed him. And then just briefly, I know we've got so much ground to cover, Johnny, in a short period of time, but what happened after you killed him? Well, they put me up in the psych ward on the seventh floor for 72 observation, 72 hours, which if you can withstand that, that's a test of endurance because the floor is like a funnel. And it goes from one floor to the next floor. And male or female, everybody's sitting around. Everybody's nude. And they would come and wash down the floor maybe every hour on the hour. And they were just observing you and your mannerisms and all of that. And then they let me out. And first of all, I was just thank God I got out only to find out later. The reason they let me out, they didn't want the rest of the world to know that there was a pedophile amongst all these kids. And they just want to sweep it on the rug. And fortunately, I get out of there. So, Gianni, you were never charged, never, never brought forth. So they knew it was self-defense, obviously. Oh, yeah. And you are how old when this happened? Seven. Jesus. This is the most amazing story I've ever heard. I know. I know. And then the stories get better and better as we go on. No, it gets crazy. Yeah, it does. It was so insane. Where do we go from here? Well, we go to Frank Costello and how you met Costello and the members of the Mafia and your involvement once you got out, Gianni. And you were just a young kid at the time. Yeah, I was 12 and I went to work in a bakery. I didn't go back home. I was so bitter. And when Dolores wheeled me out unbeknownst to me, she made them believe she was turning me over to my parents. But when the when the can came, she said, take him to 247 Mulberry Street. OK. And I'm saying, what's 247 Mulberry Street? I knew Mulberry Street and they dropped me off at the Ravenite. Oh, wow. And when I arrived, O'Neill and Gambino was outside with my grandpa and all that. But you think a veteran was coming home from the war. And they were all greeting me and I'm a kid. I'm still again, my whole left side of my body still dwarfed in a way and I had a very minimal use. And after a while, they're getting all the accolades and the kisses and this and that, and I'm hearing the apple didn't fall off the tree. I'm saying, what are they talking about the apple in this? And then I realized that my older uncle, my grandfather's brother, his name was Angelo Russo, and he sent most of these people to this country. And he stayed in Sicily and in 1949 they hung them when they were trying to clean up Olocos and Ostra in Sicily. Yeah. So that's why I got this respect that, you know, no 12 year old in the world would get at that age. But the fact that I took out this guy, that's where they come up with the saying the apple didn't fall off from the tree because he was a notorious killer. Wow. That's that's. And he was the one who really was responsible for Frank Costello and Lucky Luciano when they came over here, correct? Well, he sent Costello's family here. Costello was a little younger than Gambino. But what I found out later on, Carl Gambino at the age of 17 came to America as made man from the Gambino family in Sicily, which still exists. I still talk to them over there. Wow. I have a big company over there. I'm into Barbera Olive Oil, which I rebranded under Genco. I own that IP. That's so cool movie. So I just got to chime into the audience. So he just mentions the olive oil. He's also got wine. He's got Italian food. I'm sure you've got pistachio nuts, too, or something. It's amazing. Go ahead. This is my clothing line because of me.  Well, I love business. I love business. And you've done very well with your life. Gianni, coming really with nothing and it's remarkable. So with Costello, you talk a little bit about your relationship with Frank Costello and meeting some of the members of the five families and how that, you know, transitioned into meeting, you know, Joe Colombo and the whole issue with the Godfather movie, which we should talk about. How that happened? Well, I was working in a bakery on Mach Street. Megadonni's bakery is a friend of my grandfather's. And again, I believe in God, and I don't want to sound ridiculous to too many people, but I totally believe in this man who's been watching over me all this time. I took the job at the bakery and I was mixing 50 pound bags of flour by hand. I wouldn't use the mixer. And I was building up my body. It was like dynamic tension. Anybody bakes, you know what that is. So I'd make the dough. Then once it rose, we cut it into quarter pound loaves and then kneaded that with our hands. But the cold ovens and the flour in the air, I should have major arthritis right now. I have nothing wrong with me. Ever since I walked out of the hospital, I don't have a thing wrong. Meg, our friend's getting knees planted. I'll be 80 years old this December, December 12th.  Now you don't look a day over 78. That's great, it's a lighting. So explain how you ended up meeting Marilyn Monroe. Oh, my God. Well, how I met Marilyn Monroe is how I met I had to meet Costello first. I was selling ballpoint pens. Right. They just came out. So I took them uptown. I was standing out front of Sherry Netherlands with my gimp arm and selling these pens that I bought for 10 cents from Leo Rabinowitz on Delancey Street. And these ladies would give me a dollar. And this one guy used to come cross town every day around 10.30 between 10.30, 11. Never take a pen. Give me a few dollars, give me five dollars and give me words of wisdom. But the one thing I noticed every time he was ready to leave, he'd like give me a hug and made sure he touched my left shoulder, my crippled shoulder. I didn't care what he was doing. Keep giving me the money. This went off for months. And then I found out what he was doing by accident. I seen, I used to go see Gambino at Ferraris in the morning. He always went there when he came in from Brooklyn, had coffee and had legitimate meetings at Ferraris Pastry Shop on Grand Avenue. It's still there. Next door there is a religious store. I still buy all my holy pictures and all that. And they introduced me to this Lagorna that people wore around their neck, especially Cecians. But this one had a hunchback on it. So I said, Joe, what's with the hunchback? These will Cecians are suspicious about touching cripples. Well, the blood drained from my face. Cause I thought Costello liked me. So on the way to the train, I took the end train uptown. There was some old girl selling rabbit speed for locket set for 10 cents. So I bought a pick one and put it in my pocket. Now here he comes just like I knew he would. Every day he's coming and I'm waiting.  And he goes and touch my shoulder and I move. He goes to touch my shoulder again and he move. He's, what are you doing? And I said, what's your doing? Not what I'm doing. You know who I am. I said, no, I don't know who you are. I don't even want to know who you are. And he couldn't believe my attitude at a kid 12 years old. And the guy who I thought was his friend was his bodyguard, Blackie, who I'll get to know for the rest of his life. And as you believe this kid, he's what's your name, kid? I told him by name. He said, who's Angelo Russo to you? As Angelo Russo, my great uncle. He said, when's the last time you saw him? I said, well, if you know anything about him, I never saw him. He said, why is that? I said, no, you tell me why? He said, I asked you a question, son. And I want an answer. And now this guy's getting stirred. I said, well, they hung him. He said, they hung him. And I said, they hung him in Sicily. So he tells Blackie, take that cigar box. I said, I need to take my cigar box. With this, he took a roll of money out. I've never seen it in my life. And he gives me three $100 bills. He's unbinding your pens. I had maybe $7 worth of pens, gave me $300. And he said, you know where the wall is? I said, yeah, I know where the Republic brought them is in New York, because that's where I was going. I lived in these places. He said, meet me there tomorrow under the clock in the lobby at 10. I was there at nine, make sure I didn't miss the guy. And I worked with him until 1973 when he died. Jesus, wow.  And then he told me about Gambino. I said, I ain't no Mr. Gambino. He's, you know, Carlo Gambino. I said, yeah, he gave me a transistor radio for my birthday. He says, I don't know who you are, but this is getting crazy, so, but anyway. And then we all met down in one day. We all met at the Ravenite. And again, it got bigger because now I'm dealing with, you know, Tony Anastasia, who was the head of the International Long Showman Union. He became my, he baptized at my confirmation when I was 12. And this circle guy keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger throughout the world. Unbelievable. So Gianni, so far we've been on here about 20 minutes and we're only at age 11. I know. We've got about 70 years to go here. That's one thing about that, how much time you have. The interview's an hour, so. Yeah, yeah, we get you for an hour, buddy. But Rob was asking you about, well, first of all, you did the Godfather. You met Melon Monroe shortly a few years later. You met her before you were in the Godfather, right? You were 16. I met her because I was a personal Arab boy for Costello for the first three or four years. And he always had guests staying at the Waldorf. So there's one day he said, I'm going fishing with a carter, the head of Chicago outfit. He used to go fishing with him a lot. They still love the fish. Anyway, he said, I got a guest. Tomorrow being Saturday, go up to your check on her around 12, there's no problem. Now what I didn't tell you, I got caught by a tune officer because I was only 15 on the streets of New York and they sent me to continuation school until I was 16. And Costello arranged for me to go to Wilford Academy on top of Lindy's, which was one of my routes. This is the only way it makes sense. So I was there and then Markson Clare and Kenneth, who was Senator John F. Kennedy's personal hairdresser, needed shampoo boys and they hired me. And the fourth hairdresser shampooed was Marilyn Monroe. And I used to go to New York Theater, the Paramount Theater, 24 hours a day when Costello went home, I had nowhere to go. I'd go watch movies there. I saw some like an hot 10 times. Now you're washing their hair. Now I'm washing their hair. Now we know the configuration of a shampoo basin. So let me clean this up a little bit. I have my three piece set on her shoulder. Yeah, and as I'm going to clean this up, she's going to go ahead and I'm fantasizing, seeing this lady singing, I want to make love to you in the movie. And I'm getting aroused and I'm saying, how am I going to get her from this shampoo basin? It is these two for folks chair in the middle of the, in the middle of the salon. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll move on from there. But you end up seeing her several times thereafter, right? Before you're straight. Yes. I was the last person to see her at Calneva. The last weekend of her life, she was up in Calneva again. Now that JFK was president and Costello was commissioned by Joe Kennedy to get the mob and all the unions involved again to become president and that happened. The mob was supposed to get the other casinos back in Cuba. But as we all know in American history, Bobby didn't believe that there were Russian missiles. So the Bay of Pigs, the airstrike was called off and the mob got nothing. So now it's two years, he got the presidency, the mob got nothing. We're up in Calneva for a different reason. They want to use Marilyn as a pawn for Bobby because Bobby took over where John stopped seeing Marilyn for a year because he told Marilyn I gotta watch because I'm a Catholic and I'm married to Jackie but seeing my brother for a year, I mean, she was so naive. And unbeknownst to us, which is in my new book, she got an abortion about six weeks before this beating and aborting one of John's kids because he couldn't have any more kids when he was married to Ethel and he's the attorney general. You mean Bobby's kids? Bobby, yes. So with that said, they were trying to get Bobby in bed with him one time like they did J. Gohova in Chicago because he was a cross dresser and he always denounced that there was even a mob because of that. But she went ballistic and said, I'm going to the press. I want nothing to do with these Kennedys. I fly back to New York.  And like, you know, we're all intelligent people now. I'm surprised that St. Martin's Press and my McMillan, who's the parent company that published my book, which the cover was just shown to your audience, they vetted this. I put this in my book. I said that Robert Kennedy killed Miles Monroe. Do you know the series now this past June where he denied he was even in California. They have Bobby Kennedy in her apartment for four hours that night from testimony from the CIA, the ambulance driver and all. That's why this next book has been stronger than the one I just wrote. Wow. But no, this is getting crazier. Gianni, I've got to tell you, I've heard you say that before. And we had John A. Light on our show. I asked him the question, Point Blank was Kennedy killed by the mob. I asked him Point Blank, certain questions. And I just watched a documentary on Melbourne where the guy says he seemed to confirm that it was a suicide, it was his position. And that the other people knew about it. But your contention is that it was set up. So who would have done the act? Who would have done the act to her? I won't give you his name. He's an anesthesiologist. He was used by the Vatican to get rid of a pope that was in for 30 days. And how he killed Marilyn, he, we all have an organ in our groin area. He got a syringe and threw her pubic hair so he wouldn't see the punch of marks. Just pumped oxygen in her. She died of an amulism. They staged that whole thing. She was in an ambulance. If you saw, you said you just saw that documentary. Yes. They had her in an ambulance going to a hospital. She died in that ambulance. They brought the body back and staged this. And there's another book out right now called Collateral Damage by Mark Shaw. And he attests to it.  She didn't. Gianni, what you've just said to us, and I'm just amazed by the statement that you just made. You had a relationship with this woman that began when you were a young boy. Right, 15 and a half.  She wasn't so... She was the happiest time of her life. She was studying with Strasburg. She just got a major legitimate part.  That's why she left Xanaq and she was about to go back to Joe DiMaggio. So her life turned around. She stayed in New York for a year. I saw her almost every day when she had time to. And I was a companion. We were friends. We weren't lovers, but we both had the same thing in common. At 12, she was in an orphanage and she used to look at the water tower of Warner Brothers and said that someday I'm gonna be a movie star. I'm sorry. No, I didn't want to interrupt you, except to say that I brought this magazine with me and I was gonna say to you in a joking way that I think your greatest accomplishment in life was getting to know this woman because I'm one of those people that absolutely adore Mel Monroe and all of her talent and all that she went through. And I just want to say to you, congratulations because you have fulfilled the dream of every single man on the face of this earth. And I gotta tell you, I bought Joe DiMaggio's autograph for one reason only. I told people, I said the hand that signed this autograph touched Mel Monroe. So Gianni, I can't wait to meet you and shake your hand. No, but you have to come down here. I will. And see the shrine I had for her and the pictures of her and I together. Yes. And every night when we were together, because I stayed at the wall of the lot, she would kiss a pillowcase and sign it. Oh, wow. You know how much those pillowcases are worth today? Oh my God, priceless.  You loved her, I think. Oh my God, yeah. She was like, it was such a strange situation. Basically, and I mean, it's funny because I've done so many motion pictures with co-stars of her. Yeah. Like Tony Curtis, Frank Sinatra, Balambrenda, they all had their way with her. Right. For her, she had such a low esteem. I know it. That's all she thought she could give you is their body. So when she saw you looking at her, she would offer it to you. Wow. Kind of sad, yeah. She invited me into her bathtub for the first time. She was just being nice. Yeah. I mean, when you start reading these books and I have the privilege because when I left Calneve that day, and that's all documented. She was there and so was Robbie Kennedy.  She loved animals, but I knew she was all over the place. And I used to pay the lady, but I was making good money then already. I mean, forget about, Costello made me a very rich man early on in my life. For my 18th birthday, he gave me three hat check rooms. I was making $4 and something dollars a night from each one, all cash. So I mean, so I used to take care of this lady and I used to get everything that's personal out of that, her apartment. Wow. I met her about a month later and gave her money. She said, can I keep the dog? I said, of course. She gave me a shopping bag. In that shopping bag are three mobilized, you know, the notebooks kids go to school with, those mobilized black and white, maybe like 11 by 12. About 400 pages each. I have three of those handwritten by Mal Monroe, her diary. Wow. Gianni, you're in possession of not only those pieces of memorabilia.  There's a diary of Anne Frank and now we're talking about the diary of Mal Monroe and you've got that, you've got possession of that. I already, but they're mine, she came to me. And so Gianni, I wanna ask you a question but I could talk about her all day and we gotta move on because so many things you've done. But she was a very smart person, wasn't she? Oh my God, brilliant. Self-learned, I mean, she read everything there was. I mean, this girl was very intelligent.  Right. I know it, I know it. And that's why she left them and nobody knows when she gained the weight because there was a weight in her contract. That's when she was pregnant. She's got a 63-year-old living daughter right now. I'm in contact with her. Wow, that's news. And we don't know whether it's Joe DiMaggio's or my kid and I really don't wanna know. Okay. Excuse me. You mean that there's a 50% chance in your mind that this person is your daughter? I could be. I mean, we're the only two people at that time having relationships with her. Yeah, you and Joe DiMaggio. Johnny, in the interest of time, I'd like to move on to the Godfather.  Because I think, you know, probably the number one movie of all time. Yes. No question. No question in a moment. There's a TV series called The Offer. I'd like you to comment on that. But specifically, if you could talk about how you ended up getting a part on the Godfather, because I think, and some of the interactions you had with Marlon Brando, James Kahn, Pacino, it's absolutely fascinating. It would be a book by itself. So, what did you talk about? Another book. I read My Ego. Now you understand I'm 26 years of age. I wear, we have a million dollars. Yep. My boat was three million when I was 21. I have a 148 foot riva. But with this said, I always wanted to be not, people would say, you're a good guy, you should become an actor. I didn't want to go through the trials and tribulations. But they wrote in the LA Times, the book was where we needed this third print, that they were going to use unknowns. I said, this is my shot. So I had somebody read me the book because I can't read them in a literate. And they said, and as they're reading, I said I could play Michael, Sonny, or Carlo. So I shot a screen test. I had the money, I put it together. And Betty McCart, who was already secretary at that time and assistant, I was dating her girlfriend in Beverly Hills, Pokey Newman. So she made the arrangement for me to have a drive on to Paramount Lot, to deliver my reel myself to him. I said, what does he like?  I just bought a 65 Bentley Silver Cloud tricked out. I got a Chinese chick to drive me on the lot in the car to get his attention. All of this is in the offer, but totally different. Let's move on. He sends me a letter saying, I'm sorry we misled you. We're really not going to use unknowns. So now I read that Joe Colombo in New York is picking in the FBI building and boycotting the film. So I know Joe and I know how these guys think about money. So I fly up, I go see him on 86th Street and we hug and kiss and all that. Cause you know, I met him through all these guys all through the Kennedy elections. All I met every mob guy there was throughout the United States. I said, Joe, I said, I got an idea. We could make a lot of money with Scott father. You notice I said, we is okay. How are we going to do this? And he just hired a guy called Barry Schlotnick, a young attorney to represent the anti-defamation league, the Italian anti-defamation league. I said, why don't I arrange a meeting at Paramount, which is at the Gulf of Western building now, which is Trump Plaza on Columbus circuit. He said, you could do that. I said, I need your permission. I just got this idea. So he looks at Barry, so what do you think Barry? He's letting him go talk to him. Let's see what happens. So I go up there and then they all come Stanley Jaffe, Bobby Evans, Al Ruddy, even Greta Fredrickson, one of the producers. And I get up and go, I'm in the lobby. I said, guys, you got a problem in New York. Oh, we got no problem. I said, excuse me, okay. I just left Joe Colombo. They looked at each other. They said, what'd you do? I said, I just left Joe Colombo. He wants to meet you. You just met Joe Colombo. He wants to meet us. I said, yeah. He said, well, you come here. I said, come anywhere you want. Could you bring him here tomorrow morning? I said, what time you want him? They said, 10 o'clock. I said, I'll be here. I go back down the street because I'm not a scenario where the headquarters were. I said, the meeting's on. I said, can I make a suggestion? They said, yeah. I said, well, who's going to be in? Be Barry, you and myself. Let's take some heavyweights because I knew the guys in this crew, Butterrest, the Chico, and what, Lenny Montana. He was a collector for them. Lenny was an ex wrestler. That's how Lenny got the part of Luca Obrazzi in the movie. Oh, wow. So now we go up there. We're sitting around and they're ready to do it all. And they're getting up, they're shaking hands. Barry Schlank's going to read the book. Joe wants out. If they take it out, he'll get the cooperation in the neighborhood. You'll get the cooperation in the unions and they're shaking hands. I said, Joe, whoa, whoa, what about me? So he looks around. They're all standing ready to leave. Joe told us to sit down. He didn't even say nothing. He raised his hand like he was caught and moved his hand down. They all sat down. I said, let me tell you something. I arranged this. I won a part in the movie. So right, he said, I'm going to give you a part. I said, let me say this to you, okay? Who's playing Michael? They all looked at each other. And what I'm about to tell you, most people don't know. They said, Jimmy Conrad. He was playing Michael. I said, who's playing Sonny? They said, Carmine Curie. He's in a play in the manful of Montia because they wanted this big guy. They thought Sonny should be a big guy. I said, who's playing Carl? They said, we didn't get to that part yet. I said, Joe, I want to play Carlo. So he looks at them. He says, he's playing Carlo. Now that's in another book. Wow. So James Patterson's book. And he's no slouch writer. We all know James Patterson. Your audience who go to page 70 and 71 and is right on those two pages that Joe Colombo says, Johnny Russo plays Carlo. And if I like everything else, you can make the movie. Amazing. No, but this is crazy. Now that's saying on a 10 hour episode, Ruddy gave me the part. Ruddy had nothing to do with it if he had a part. But Gianni, what blows my mind is that your character, along with every bit part of that movie from, you know, to Luca Bracci. Your character is one of the most iconic characters in movie history.  And by the way, ladies and gentlemen, I've got to take this time to show the scene that's one of the most memorable scenes in movie history. It's where Jimmy Khan takes you on. And we're going to insert that right here, Dino, if you don't mind. Okay. I'm just going to give the doc that'll come and take a look at you. No, please don't do anything. Please don't do it. What's wrong with you? What am I going to do? I'm going to make that baby an orphan before he's born. Huh? Hmm? He's got slops. Still better than you act. He's pretty heavy. Don't stop taking actual out, right? Last of the month.  Come here, come here, come here, come here. Watching that, I need to ask you, and Rob and I want to ask you, did, did Khan hurt you? It looked like he hurt you. Yeah, that's a great question. Did Khan hurt me? And I've been saying he hurt me for 50 years with that garbage pail cover that was steel, not plastic like we have today. I'm going to be kidding. He cheated my elbow. Yeah. Then when I crawl out from under the gate, he kicks me and we choreographed. As soon as he touched me, I would roll over. Well, that day he dropped kicks me and breaks two ribs. Oh my God. Now in the offer, there's a scene. They're redoing it with an actor. And the A.D. and Francis Ford Coppola said we got to stop this. He's getting hurt. Al Ruddy on camera, the character playing Al Ruddy who was the producer. So let it go. Well, let's teach this punk a lesson.  I'm alive. Yeah, that's crazy. But Gianni, after that, after you had that injury, had you shot other scenes? For example, another, one of the most iconic, I keep using that word because it is, it's memorable, is when you're sitting there and Michael says he's gonna send you off to Vegas to run the hotel, whatever. Right.  I mean. Oh yeah.  That's what was so great. Well, Brando, I have to say something. That's why I'm the only person in the world to say what I'm about to say. Marlon Brando was my only acting teacher and Frank Sinatra was my only singing teacher. Right. Oh my God. And by the way, ladies and gentlemen, I have actually talked to this man six years ago. My niece sent me a CD of his Frank Sinatra thing and by luck, I saw a phone number on there and called it and this gentleman answered the phone and talked to me for 15 minutes with such respect, with the same respect we're getting today. And I just can't believe that now we're friends, Gianni, but go ahead, Rob. Gianni, James Kahn, to explain what happened with you and Kahn, which I think is also an interesting story and a little side note to the Godfather and also the relationship that you did have with Marlon Brando.  I used to bring midnight loans. I knew everybody up there. So when I got there, Danny Pagano, senior, junior, Tony Federici, all the mob guys went in and they said to me, what are you doing here at three o'clock? I said, I'm here for the rehearsal. They said to Godfather, yeah, I said, I got a big partner that's get out of here and they didn't even act there. I saw him in it. So I go into the rehearsal. I'm running, I'm nowhere getting close to time. So we get into the rehearsal, everybody's there. Coppola says, nobody have eye contact. Nobody approach Brando, nobody look at him. And that was it. I didn't care. So we waited, we rehearsed for about 45 minutes. They took a break and Brando walks over to me. So I said, I ain't doing nothing wrong.   I said, no, you're not on Broadway. I know everybody on Broadway. I said, you're right again. He said, who'd you study with? I said, what are you talking about? Study what? And he calls Coppola over. He says, Francis. And I never broke down the script, but by ego, I just wanted to be in the movie world where I can. He says, this guy marries my daughter. Underwinds my family. Gets my oldest son, son, he killed. Brings Michael in. This guy's got to be a great actor. And I'm saying to myself, this guy's trying to get me fired. Everybody already thinks I'm not in the movie to begin with. I won't be able to go back to the neighborhood. So I don't know protocol. I said, Francis, go over there a minute. And Francis left. I dismissed the director. Well, the whole room, you can hear a pin drop now. Say, who is this guy? I'm already dressed in brahili suits. I got him mentally outside. They don't know me from Adam, but I got this part. So not only did I look at Brando, I put my arm around him and I walk him to the back because I don't want to embarrass him. I get nose to nose with Brando. I said, let me tell you something, Mr. Brando, at all the respect, I know who you are. Listen to me carefully.  You understand me? And he looked at me, he stepped back. He said, that was brilliant. He thought I was acting, I meant it. That is the best story. I know it. But he continued to counsel you and mentor you and work with you. From that day on, he is for a ride home with me because I thought he liked the car or me. He liked the chick. He liked the Korean little girl. I gave her to him, two years later. He lived with her. That's crazy. Then you worked in the freshman. Also, you did the freshman. That was my biggest film. I got him $15 million. It was the biggest paycheck I ever got. You got $15 million to play Call of Gambino. I mean, Don Corleone again. I've got to tell you, that movie was a 10 on a 10 story. Oh, yeah, it was great. It just blows my mind that you accomplish this friendship with my own Brando with a threat. To Lidey died. To Lidey died. In fact, he called me at two o'clock in the morning. I just had an altercation in my club in Vegas, October 28, 1989. I heard about that. Go ahead. Oh, yeah. I killed Pablo Escobar. One of his main guys will run to Morales after he attacked the customer. It was all self-defense. And I was, you know, six days in an inquest. I was like three. So he calls me up at two o'clock in the morning. His son, Brandon, just shot his brother-in-law in the house and killed him. After Brando gave him his gun, because he used to beat up Cheyenne, the sister all the time, and she was pregnant. So the son came in and said, Daddy, he's doing it again.  That's why Brando got involved in that. Yes. And the kid went in and killed him.  He's Johnny. I said, what's the matter? He says, I got a big problem. I said, what is it? He's my son just shot my son-in-law.  He said, no, I said, don't call nobody. I'm gonna have somebody call your house. Don't call nobody. Who's there? He's my daughter and I'm perfect. I said, get her out of the house. I call Robert Shapiro. Because Steve Nguyen got Robert Shapiro to defend me if I was gonna be charged. But I knew I was gonna be charged with self-defense, the guy I killed. So I called Bobby up. I got his home number, all his numbers, you know. And I wake him up. He's, why are you calling here so late? I said, calm down.  Yes, yeah. I said, I got a guy that needs your help right now. And he said, tell him to call my office. I said, it's Marlon Brando. He said, what? I said, Marlon Brando needs you to call him right now. He said, give me his number. This is unbelievable. Five hours later, I see Robert Shapiro, Marlon Brando outside of LA Correctional Center where they're booking the son. They're on the street outside. He got him five years, he did three. And then the kid killed himself anyway. Terrible, terrible, real tragedy. Frank Sinatra, the relationship you had, he taught you how to sing. The singing baptized my son, Luciano. That's right. He's your son's godfather. Talk about your relationship specifically with respect to the godfather. Because always we've heard stories where Sinatra did not want that scene without Al Martino, who really portrayed Sinatra. I didn't want to know reference of him because everybody knew it was supposed to be Sinatra. But Gianni, didn't he give you a hard time? Didn't he give you a hard time for being in the movie and didn't that affect your relationship?  He called me. Dorothy called me. He said, the old man wants to talk to you. I got on the phone. These were friends, right? It's of course. I said, they asked you to do me a favor. What would you do? I said, whatever you want, Frank. He said, I don't want you to do the movie. It's a war movie. He's the godfather. That's okay. You don't want me to do it, I won't do it. And he hung up on me. Now I'm saying to myself, am I nuts? I'm gonna give this up. So I waited a day. I called him back. I said, Dorothy, give me the old man. I used his dialogue. I said, Frank, you're my friend, right? He said, yeah. I said, they asked you to do me a favor. What would you do? It's anything you want. He said, I asked you not to do here to eternity. Would you have done it? And he hung up on me. Oh boy. But you've still continued to have a relationship with Frank? No, he's bipolar. I've helped him. I flew with him everywhere. I went to see Ava Gardner with him one night. I mean, it was crazy. And then when Ava moved to London, he said, come with me, because we were on our way to Red Cross ball for Grace Kelly, because him and I stood very close to Grace until she died. Well, we were at the Red Cross ball all the time. And then we know, but he wanted to teach me how to sing. He thought I could be a good singer, and I did. And he made me make a promise, and I kept that promise. I sing that one song that he dedicated to Ava Gardner then I dedicate in my shell. And hopefully you guys will see it. I hope so. Yeah. To her. And the people, I get a standing ovation from it. He really told me how to sing it. Gianni, I just want to chime in and let you know that one of my dear friends who just passed away is Bobby Rydell. Oh, wow, sure. Yes, I've been with him quite a few times. And I was at his funeral, where I also met Frank Sinatra's bodyguard in his many years. But I just want to say that- Bodyguard, what bodyguard? Let me use his bodyguard now. What's his name? His first name is Merrill. And he's a former Atlantic City police officer. And he was at the funeral. Oh, he was. I know that guy well. Yes, I bet you did. But in any event- Sinatra was at the Sands and he booked me at the Claridge next door. His last performance. Well, the reason why I wanted to bring in Bobby Rydell is because he sings Sinatra. And he did summer wind and I taped him doing it. And I've heard your version of Sinatra's songs. And I just want to say that there are only certain people that can sing Sinatra and do a half decent job. Rydell is one of them, of course.  So I just want to congratulate you on that. Oh, that's a big compliment. Yeah, it is. Well, it's meant with sincerity.  Yeah, Gianni, the JFK assassination, Jimmy Hoff.  I mean, we've heard more names than a front page magazine covers. Yeah.  Well, Gianni, I think we've got to do that. We've got about 10 or 15 more minutes. We do? I believe we do.  And I think, of course not. No. No way. Did the mob kill JFK? Oh, the mob?  Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. The mob killed JFK.  He was in the sewer coming up the knoll. It was Gianni Roselli. Gianni Roselli was being trained by the CIA to kill Fidel Castro. Him and Santo Traficante were doing that for a year. And it's two years later and nothing was happening with Fidel Castro and they wanted the casinos back. And they warned Joe, Joe got a stroke that they were gonna start taking out his kids. And nobody trusted each other. There was three shooters that day. Lee Harvey Oswald was hired by Marcellos in New Orleans. He heard him on a radio station sent from out of Texas and he made this guy like the biggest hero in the world. He said, you kill him. You're not this. Then they had Jack Ruby. Jack Ruby was running all the slots for Costello in Texas. They said, we'll put you in the cell.  They had a whole train reaction. But Roselli, when you see the JFK tapes which we've all seen under times, there was no way that Lee Harvey Oswald shot him because the back JFK's head was blown out from the front on the angle that was from the storm sewer. That was Gianni Roselli in that. That's why Gianni Roselli was killed. Gianni Roselli was found in a 50 gallon drum. They were bringing him in. That's right, that's right. And you actually were carrying money from Frank Costello to Carlos Muchello in New Orleans. Everybody chipped in. And you actually might've bumped into Lee Harvey Oswald. Is that correct? Not might've, I did. I was waiting to go to the bathroom. He said, somebody's in there. I don't know if you have no more scousers. It's a little restaurant that he owns. But there was one bathroom. I've been there a hundred times. And I waited and this guy bunks in to me. I paid no attention to him. Then I went to see him and I was about to sit down. There's some pasta bungalows. He said, no, no, you gotta get back to New York. And he whispers in my ear the message. Just as Corky Savella did, Tony Ocado did, all the major guys who were in on this, they got the okay and I carried the message to him. And then he gave me a vanilla envelope. This was on a Tuesday. I left that Friday. I was going under the horizontal bridge. And they said that they shot the president.  I liked JFK. I hung out with him for months while they were campaigning. I saw him every weekend at the Sands, the Cobra Room in Vegas.  I was sick because I really liked the guy. How do you recover from something like that, having been involved in possibly the assassination? I mean, it's just... Well, they had a lot of arousal. I left the country at 22 months. That's right. They sent you over to Europe. That's correct. I understand. I was there 22 months. Wow. Wow. Some of the stuff that I'm getting into even in my other books now with Saddam Hussein and I don't know if you know Anand Khashoggi and Shabshoggi and them.  We only have a few minutes left, correct, Derry? Right. Gianni, I just want to close by asking. I read that you're appearing somewhere in September. There's an event that's surrounding you coming up this September. Am I correct? Oh, yeah. They're honoring me down in San Diego. Yes. And then that's on the 29th. If anybody's down, they come. And then when I did, Paula Casino invited me back. I'm doing my show there, which is on the borderline of Riverside in California. That's on that Saturday. And then friends of mine in Beverly Hills with Herb Alpert at the vibrato on that Sunday doing the show. So I figured I'd better keep singing while I'm out there. Sorry, I'm actually down in Resorts on October 8th for Columbus Day weekend. Right. Resorts to Atlantic City. You go to New York City and perform there too, also? I perform everywhere, yep. Yeah. All over the place. And about how many shows a year do you think you do with Gianni, where you're singing? I do about, I would say 25. I'll probably do more this year because this show is based on my book. I turned my book into a musical. And the clips that I have, I mean, you can't believe, I found a picture of me being the poster boy for the March of Dimes for Eddie Cantor and President Roosevelt. Wow. Gianni, can you just briefly, I know we only got a couple of minutes left, just talk a little bit about your projects that you're involved in, what you got looking forward to now, you got a new book coming out, new TV show. The sixth family. Okay. I have Hollywood Godfather podcast. Yep. It's at 73 countries. My clothing line, La Cosa Mia by Gianni. My food line, Corde Leon, find a tag, find it online. It's sold in 73 countries. My vodka is about to expand to seven more spirits under down Corde Leon. And on and on, my coffee line is coming out, my pastries are coming out. I got Clemenza's. Take the gun, keep the cologne. Take the gun out. Take the gun out, take the gun out. Leave the gun, take the cologne. He's coming out. I just try to capitalize on it. Good for you. Absolutely. Absolutely. And we hope to have you in Maine with your act. Please. We will. Let's do it. We will, Gianni. We will. Yeah, if Rob Baldacci. I'll make it happen. Says it's going to happen. It's going to happen. Gianni, I'm just going to close by saying this. We're not done. First of all, Rob and his quest. And secondly, we're going to have you back because I'm going to read the book and I'm going to have a million more questions.  When they talk about that, Dosecki's commercial. Who's the world's most interesting man? Well, no wonder the guy looks like you. I'm curious. That's very caring. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Well, we appreciate you coming on the show. My newspaper ad will say the most fascinating interview that Rob and I have ever done. Thanks, Gianni. I appreciate that. Make sure you send that to me, too. Oh, we will. You'll get the link. Absolutely. I'm sure you'll watch it ad nauseam. Thank you, Gianni Rousseau. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll see you on the next Gary Lund Show.