This show is sponsored to you by MtGox.com, and MezzyGrill.com, and CarPayVM.com. Hi guys, welcome to the P.Vas show. This is P.Vas, and this is my third episode. And today I have the wonderful Camille McDonnell from Cycle 2 of America's Next Top Model, and now recently from America's Next Top Model Cycle 17. How are you? I'm good. Thank you. Thanks for inviting me on this show. I appreciate it. I'm so glad you're here with me. This is amazing. I can't wait for the new season. I've been dying to see it. I saw the first one. And I have a few questions for you. Are you ready? You're surprised that I'm on America's Next Top Model All Stars? Are you surprised you didn't think that I would get invited back? Oh no, of course. I'm not surprised, but I'm sure you're going to get back on there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Why wouldn't you look at you? You're so kind. You're so beautiful. Now, I wanted to ask you, on Cycle 2, how you were rocking the Jamaican flag, and I wanted to know where does that all fall into? Are you from Jamaica? What's going on? My family is from Jamaica, West Indies, and I was born here in New York.  But first generation American, I feel very close to my roots and my heritage. And every summer as a young child, I used to go back. So I love Jamaica. It's sun and sand and water and amazing food and amazing people. So I represent as much as I can because I believe that's where my strength comes from. Because they always say you have to know where you're from to know where you're going. Exactly. It's like me, I'm from the island as well. I'm from Puerto Rico, so you know. Puerto Rico. Puerto Rico. Now, how did you come about getting on America's next home model? Oh, wow. I want to hear it again. Because you know, there's a lot of models out there, so I don't know how you got into it. That's an interesting story. As you know, hundreds of thousands of girls dream of being on America's next home model. It's an amazing opportunity. As you know, a show produced by a supermodel, TV personality, Tyra Banks. And she holds auditions in different states or her casting directors go out and try to find who they think has potential to be the next America's next home model. So reality is that I did not want to be on the show. I was at Howard University studying to become a creative director at an advertising agency. And I was involved in fashion at Howard, and my friends were like, oh my God, you have to audition for America's next model. It's the best show. And I'm like, okay, I just want to get my degree. You know, I just start working by house. I was a Mr. Maker US. I was a Miss Florida teen. I worked the fashion industry in New York City College. You know, I want to move on. They're like, no, no, you have to audition. So at that time I had my own fashion styling company in school. And they were like, if you don't audition for America's next model with us as your friend, we're going to fill your voicemail to capacity and you won't be able to get any of your calls from your clients until you do it. So at Howard, there's a lot of beautiful girls and we have friends who are photography majors and everyone has a portfolio. Just have a portfolio because you're going to have to audition for the Howard Homecoming Fashion Show at one point. So we all felt like we were prepared. So they filled my voicemail and I decided to go. Went to the audition in Washington DC. They said they were full. They couldn't see any more girls. But of course my friends were like first in line and unfortunately none of them made it. So I said, okay, guys, I auditioned. They're not seeing anyone else. So, you know, stop filling my phone. And I had went to Miami to give Sean Paul, reggae artist, some clothes. And I heard one of the girls who were in the set of a Beyonce video shoot say that they were going to the mall because there was an America's next model audition. And I was like, wow, you know, this seems like something that's pretty big. I keep hearing this America's next model thing. And I've never been afraid of a challenge.  They're going to see me today and I'm going to get chosen. So I went and once again, the lady who was the gatekeeper said, we're full to capacity. We're not seeing anyone else. I'm sorry. So I thought on my toes and said to her, well, I'm not auditioning. My cousins upstairs have been outside in the car for three and a half hours. It's hot. I just want to know how far along she is in the line. And she was so overwhelmed with these women who are now on the floor crying and screaming, begging. She's pulling her hair out. And at the end of the day, she's done. So she's just like, whatever. Like if you want to go see, go see. Because I wasn't auditioning. Exactly. I go upstairs and I see like 100 girls sitting down like in a row. The bathroom is like full of women like fighting for mirror space, fixing their hair and all that other stuff. I'm like, what is going on here? It's a frenzy. Wow. So I realized that there was a young woman who was sitting in one of the chairs. She was the last person and her number was like, I don't know, 500 and something, 522. So I went to the bathroom and I looked around. It was too crowded. They had like a Manila envelope. Oh my God. So I went and I found a Burger King or a Burger King bag and I like ripped it open and went into my purse, got a black eyeliner and wrote like the next number, 523 or something. And I sat down. Oh my God. So as you're calling the girls like 10 by 10 to go into the room, I guess to have their audition, see the casting directors, the same woman who told me that I could go upstairs because I wasn't auditioning to find my cousin or whoever walks by and I'm like, I'll hide myself under some hair or something. And she's just like, what are you doing? I'm just like, oh, and I looked down the road to see if there's anyone that resembles me. So there's a girl like seven seats away. Like she's just right there. So I figured I might as well just wait, you know, by that time she's just like, okay, she was done. She just left. So I got to be one of the lucky women who got into the room and wow, the judges and that's how I got on the show.  Exactly. You hear that, ladies? Never take no for an answer. And gentlemen, too, actually.  Like, I mean, I saw it on the show, but you know. My signature walk is just that. It's a walk that I feel is unique to myself. And I pretty much branded it. I owned it and lived up to my walk. I mean, something as simple as that, I think it's important that we all have something signature about us. It might not be, your signature might not be your walk. It might be, you know, your voice. It might be your personality.  Someone could be a great writer.  So once again, you just have to own that and live it, breathe it, eat it.  Like it was taken as negative because Tyra like banged her head down on the table. It was like, I can't believe you said your signature walk is going to make you famous at a go-see. And I think it was just read wrong. It was misunderstood because at Howard University, once again, we have something called the Homecoming Fashion Show. And Howard's Homecoming Fashion Show is one of, if not the biggest fashion shows out of all colleges. It's almost on the level of a New York Fashion Week show where you have alumni such as Puffy, such as Debbie Allen, such as David Dinkins come and sit in the audience. Even people who haven't gone to Howard like Oprah. So students from other schools like University of Maryland and the surrounding areas would come to Howard to audition for a college fashion show. Like that doesn't happen anywhere. That just shows you the magnitude of the show. And yeah.  There's a lot of politics that goes along. So you have to work your way up to that. Spending back yards, spending homecoming, what have you. So I auditioned. I got an audition spot. And I'm looking around. I'm like, wow, these women here are gorgeous. I mean, any hair color, any eye color measurements, they're at Howard University.  I want this part in the fashion show. What is signature about me? And I was like, it's my walk. I'm going to give them and serve them my signature walk and they're going to select me today. So you have to find that space of confidence. And every time I step on the runway, I say a prayer to myself.  And I booked the show. So that's how the word signature walk came about. So it came from a very positive place. Now, how do you feel like, like, how do you feel like there's any competition out there for you? Or do you ever feel like threatened when you're going out, you know, in any fashion show or anywhere that you go? There's definitely competition. The fashion industry is an extremely difficult and grueling one. And I always tell people that you have to know the business that you're getting into. We have to study it. And being a woman of color in the fashion industry, it's difficult. The reality is the majority of women that you see on the covers of the magazines or who are booked for the major campaigns and the layouts. Even a fashion week, 35, 40 girls, you might have one or two black women in the show. And it's disproportionate and it's unfortunate, but things are getting better. It's better now that it's ever been before.  And you don't want it to seem like, OK, well, we're both going off with the same casting. You know, it's going to be me, not you or vice versa. Like there's room for everyone. But the reality is that you have to put your best foot forward and just pray and hope that you book the job and you book the campaign. So in that sense, you can feel threatened that there isn't room for all of us to have the same campaign, the same memory show, one actuality there is. But that just all depends on the powers that be. But I think now people are definitely seeing our talents, our skills and our walking and our beauty and what we're made up culturally, whether it's your cheekbone structure, you know, your eyes, your hair, your skin. So I'm very blessed to have been raised as a model in this generation. Exactly. Now, let's go back a little bit to the signature walk. I know that you have signature walk ink that you bought it. You bought the name and tell us a little bit more about that. Signature walk ink. Once again, I explained the story about how being signature is very important and you can say it in its literal and its figurative sense. So I started a company and it's a global fashion marketing company specializing in the business of beauty and fashion and modeling. And as I'm getting older in this industry, it's important to me to be able to give back and also profit off of what I've learned in the business and share that with others. Coming from the background of having a degree from the Fashion Institute of Technology, FIT and fashion design and also advertising from Howard University, it has now allowed me to expand my wings and help other people who are interested in those fields that I have worked in. Now, you finished school already? Yes. I've graduated and I'm actually thinking about going back to college to get my master's in business but it all depends on if time is allowed. But my schedule is just crazy. I can say that the best part of modeling is for me traveling and also with my company having the Signature Walk Ink Mentoring Program where I take one child every six months or two kids a year and I help them with their endeavors of being involved in the entertainment industry. For example, there's a young girl named Renee. She'll come with me to my red carpet events. She'll come with me to photo shoots. This summer I put her into a camp since I couldn't be with her. I was filming All-Star and coming up this week she has the finale for the camp where she has a red carpet. She gets a limo. She gets to walk the red carpet to her interview. The mayor will be there and a host of other celebrities so I try to keep them involved in extracurricular activities, exercise, diet is important. Having the environment of entertainment to hone in on whatever skills are whether it's singing or dancing, acting and also like the educational part of it and also community service. That's really good. I do a lot. You always got to give back because the more you give back, the more you'll receive. I'm a true believer in giving back to everybody. No matter what, that's what I live by every single day. You should too. Who is your favorite photographer? Your favorite makeup artist. Tough question. I hope I don't get hung when I leave here. Favorite photographer was a gentleman named Irving Penn and he passed away a few years ago but he's a world renowned photographer. You might be familiar with some of his work in Vogue whether it's a product like food or something of the sort. He was just amazing. He just paid such great attention to detail the artistic aspect of everything also in fashion too. If you were shot by Irving, your life and your career was made. And of course, he's an amazing photographer and I'm looking forward to our shoot. I'm keeping my friend's cross. I think it's going to be really amazing because you're actually me talented yourself and young in the business amongst all these photographer moguls. I know we're going to make the best of them.   No, I'm never going to charge you anything. I love you. You got that right. I've always admired you since American Next Top Model. That was my one number one show and that's where I got all my ideas. That's where I want to start shooting with people like models and different artists. Wow. I don't know, American Next Top Model just gave me a lot of inspiration especially seeing you on there and seeing all the other models. I don't know, it was just amazing. I just love that show. It's so proud that you're here with me. Because it's a privilege. That's great. Now, who's your favorite makeup artist? My favorite makeup artist right now is really a tie between a Sam Fine and Valente, which is also Tyra's makeup artist. Can I tell you I live for these two men in my life?  If they were in a rapper, I would just eat them both. Tell them to contact you. Yeah, Sam Fine and Valente. Make sure you give me a call because this right here, I know you could just do wonders with it. What is your favorite running campaign? Or do you have any ads? Right now, currently, because they say that in my industry you're only good as the last drop that you did, I have a cosmetic campaign that's out by a company called Nika K. And the lipstick that I have one right now is by Nika K. I believe it's called Pink Lemonade. Nika K is one of those cosmetic lines that are really inexpensive.  I encourage everyone to pick up Nika K. This lip gloss is only $2.99 in comparison to my YSLs or my Chanels or something like that. I'm really happy that Nika K picked me for their campaign because especially now in this tough economic time, everyone wants to look glamorous, but people are definitely on a budget and they have great eyeshadow colors as well. Besides Nika K, I also did a job for Lancome and L'Oreal this year. The one for L'Oreal, I was a stand-in for Beyonce. They get to put the makeup on me and test the lighting and do little great stuff and Beyonce comes on stage and she does her thing. Lancome was for their new eyeshadow. If you go onto their website, you can see me doing the tutorial on how to put on the eyeshadows. You can get five different looks from these five colors. I'm very blessed to have been chosen for beauty campaigns and ads and that makes me feel really good.  Thank you. You're so beautiful. We're going to be right back and we're going to answer some fan questions. All right, bring them on. Let's do it. Omar? This show is sponsored to you by mountgox.com The largest online exchange service for Bitcoin. They now take euros, British N, AUD, and Canadian dollars. It's coming any day now. Euro coming with middle-matte acquisition. 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Alright, so this is the first question that we had from the one of your fans. Her name is Tiffany Odo from Ohio. I want to know how they feel about being a powerful woman in the workplace. I'm sorry. What's her name again? Tiffany Odo. Hi Tiffany Odo from Ohio. So how do I feel about being a powerful woman in the workplace? I feel amazing that I can put on a skirt and wear the pants at the same time. It's very difficult because I'm very much so homemaker, so I like to cook and do all the domestic stuff. But it's a blessing and I think it's only fitting when you work hard and you reap the benefits. But my company is only a baby right now and they say once you're three years or four years into the business and you're still floating, then you're definitely successful. So please continue to support. Go to www.camillemcdonald.com the company is called signature walk Inc. If you want to be involved, but thanks for your question. Appreciate it. And then also, Hishi has another question. And it is, what are some of the obstacles you have faced in being a powerful woman in the fashion industry? Wow, some of the obstacles that I faced being a powerful woman in the fashion industry is just being able to get over rejection.   So that would be the hardest part. I would say for the majority of people, for me, I found a way to not make it affect me in a negative way. Good, I like that. Now we have Ricky Abbs from Bronx, from the Bronx, New York. How's your experience being on America's Next Top Model and now returning back for the All-Star C edition? Ricky Abbs from the Bronx, my hometown. From the Boogie Down Bronx. Is it abs because you have all this down here? Thanks for your question. Which was? I was thinking about abs, so who knows, I was a distracted. How was your experience being on America's Next Top Model and now returning back for the All-Star edition? My experience in America's Next Top Model was absolutely crazy. Honestly, it was one of the most stressful experiences of my whole entire life, hence the nature of competition and being crammed into a house with, you know, 13, 14, whatever, other women and it is what it is and some people were best under stress and pressure. So, going into the All-Star Cycle I pretty much knew what I would be encountering, so to say, but then again my cycle from Cycle 2 to All-Stars I think it was like, I don't know, 5, 6 years or something like that, so how much do you really remember when you're a working professional model traveling the world? It was a crazy experience and you're just going to have to watch and find out because we're all grown now and some of us know each other and some of us don't and it's interesting to see if those characters are still the same or if they've changed Tune in to September 14th on the CW Yes, in the arc. Thanks for the question. Actually, another question. Any hints on the new challenges that they needed to face in the photo shoots? Hints on new challenges I cannot talk about right now but let's just say it is a celebrity-studded addition definitely and it's All-Star so expect the unexpected. Exactly. Now we have Jordan Essay from Orlando, Florida from where I am from how has your success affected your family and personal life since becoming an amazing model in the public's eye? Hmm, that's a good question and the person's name was Jordan. Hi Jordan from Orlando how has the success affected my family and my friends? I'm just very blessed to have extremely surrounded parents and friends and they're my parents and my family they're in the entertainment industry so to speak so they're not super star-struck people unfamiliar to the world and everyone is human everyone believes everyone has to go to the bathroom and you take it for what it is and everything and they're happy for me and they're excited but they're not super zealous the most important thing for them is my security and being safe and having this experience work out to be something that's profitable in the long run that I can sustain myself as a young woman because I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a doctor I'm a professional model so with that being said my friends are and I invite them all to my event so they can have a taste of what it is, some understand what I do and some don't and that's fine so when they are a part of my world it's love and it's fun and it's happiness and they invite me to their world as well which I can actually vouch to that but I think they all hate me because I'm never around they're like why don't you call me, why don't you Facebook me why don't you text me on Facebook or Facebook is on a plane to somewhere I don't care about you guys, I don't love you I'm working, I'm trying to get this money exactly I'm always trying to get in touch with her, if I don't get in touch with her I'm like where is she and I have to go on Facebook and I'm like oh okay so Jordan has another question he said how has your success been generated from America's Accepted Model to form a career that includes your own clothing line and what are your next steps in your career I want to say when it comes to America's Accepted Model and a successful career, America's Accepted Model definitely helped when it came to branding yourself hosting events if you want to get back into television so forth and so on but as far as my career in fashion one way, I left the United States and I went to Milan where I got my agency and no one knew I was on America's Accepted Model I really wanted to test the market for what it was to see if I had what it took to be a professional model and I signed with Major Model Management in Milan and worked incredibly and stayed there for quite some time and then came back to their sister agency in New York Major Model Management in New York and on the show allowed me to raise a lot of money for causes that I am adamant about HIV AIDS awareness, hurricane relief children's education so forth and so on so it's like a catch-22 if I had stayed in the United States a little longer maybe I would have signed some of those contracts with television deals that were offered to me post top model but my thing was the love for the runway and I really wanted to do that which is why I left the States and went overseas so your success really depends on what you do with it because once you're kicked off the show you don't have your manager, your publicist, your agent your accountant, your lawyer like all these ten different things if not more that go into making someone a celebrity and successful so I thank America's Accepted Model for giving me the platform to work with but at the end of the day it's about you it's about your grind, it's about your hunger and your ambition and I was going to do it for you by yourself exactly, very nice okay now we have another question and this one is by Roberto Negrin from Manhattan, New York and he says what advice do you give to the girls to follow you and want to have a successful career as you wow study, study, study, study study your business, study your craft study what it is that you want to do know everyone's name, know every place so that you can be the best that you can be and you don't fall into those pit holes that those models or people in the business have before you that's really important and never take no for an answer and stay strong and positive don't fall for the gimmicks don't ever sell yourself short don't ever feel that you have to do something that morally you're not comfortable with because it will come your way at some point in time and just know that if this field of work is for you it will happen and sometimes a race is not for the swift but those who endure it very cool now we also have another question and this one is by Emmanuel Mansfield do you think you and Tyra Sanchez from RuPaul's Drag Race were depicted similarly on reality TV that's a cute question Tyra Sanchez, I mean like she is fierce in her own right and she was a little misunderstood and I felt that I was a little misunderstood too but the girl had undeniable talent and just gorgeous and fierce and creative in her own right and RuPaul gave her a platform to shine and that's what she did sometimes you don't necessarily have to win a show to be a winner hence Jennifer Hudson so it's really what she put into it so maybe now I'm going to add Tyra to my twitter now I also have another one and this one is again by Ricky Abst this one is actually a really good question if you could choose any fashion brand to model for the rest of your career what would it be and why if I could use any fashion brand to model for the rest of my career that's kind of hard because I expect my career to be pretty long maybe until I decide to retire who knows when that is, 65 so I would say Versace I love Versace but then again at 65 I'm not sure if Versace would be appropriate but I love Versace I love Diane LaFersenberg her classic wrap dresses are amazing I love Roberto Cavalli you know YSL it really just depends on how I'm feeling at the moment but yeah I'm going to try to stay in stilettos as long as I can and he also has a really good question how do you stay so fit and beautiful wow thank you staying fit is definitely it's not an easy thing but it's something that you have to incorporate in your life as your lifestyle you can't think about getting up and going to the gym as a chore it's something that you have to do because you want this result it's something that you have to incorporate like you incorporate using the bathroom or just drinking water to stay alive so I'm in the gym at least five days a week I know it sounds like a lot but my body and I have two favorite classes right now and it's called Kettle Bells and TRX so if you don't know what those two things are you definitely have to look it up I have an amazing trainer, her name is Pat and also Sean at New York Sports Club and I mean the adrenaline rushes you get from working out is amazing you actually have way more energy and it's not just exercise it's also diet you can eat what you put in your body if you had a really expensive car Ricky, I don't know, Ferraria are you going to the gas station and are you putting in regular gas I don't think so you're going to put premium gasoline in your car so consider your body as the one only that you have and it's all this is luxury so make sure you're eating foods that are giving you the maximum amount of nutrition wake up in the morning, have a protein shake and make sure you're having enough vegetables and nuts and all that stuff no one's saying you can't eat pizza and hamburgers and potato chips you can and if you know that bag of potato chips is 175 calories when you're on the bike in the gym make sure you see how long it takes you to burn off the 175 calories if you want to stay at your same weight but you don't seem like you have a problem because you got abs so you're probably doing something right so exercise, diet and sleep now that's a great way of looking at it though really, premium I didn't think about that I need to get on a diet myself now we have the last question it is by Pearl Running Deer and it is will you be at fashion week oh my god yes I will definitely be at fashion week castings are coming up shortly so I'm praying we talked about those fears before that God willing for some shows during New York fashion week definitely New York fashion week is extremely special unfortunately it's not in Bryan Park anymore I think it's the second year out wherever there is a runway whether I'm sitting in the audience and watching whether I'm on the floor and making the magic happen and selling the garment it's all just I just think of it like confetti and glitter I love it definitely so we'll see come cover fashion week well thank you guys for asking the questions because you guys had some really good questions I was like surprised you guys don't worry about everything that I know so I wanted to ask you now this is my question what are you wearing because this outfit is looking hotness right now and I love the color well I'm wearing a dress by a new Italian designer just introduced the American market in the past I believe year and a half and it's called Lapati robe giada boning and Lapati robe means the small the little dress this is a fabric never seen before here in the states it's called sensitive the fabric is called sensitive and it comes in a lightweight a heavy weight and a medium weight sounds like a jersey material and the fabulous thing about Lapati robe is that you don't have to iron it all you do is step into all of their garments you fold it in a very cute bag that comes with each dress and you pull out your suitcase and you wear something like this I believe retails for maybe about $780 like you can pick it up at Neiman Marcus one of my favorite stores Nordstroms or Amy's of Rye and you should definitely be seeing Lapati robe giada boning in stores this fall I love it and for women who are concerned about their body shape or any of those body shapers when you wear something like this because it holds you in and it feels amazing and it's not even sewn on the sleeves it's all laser cut talk about innovation in technology and something for every woman of all ages that takes minimal care you just wear it, you throw in a washing machine and you're gone who wants to wake up in the morning and have to worry about something being crushed or ironing it and I'm fortunate enough to be their fit model now tell us about your shoes because everybody can see your shoes these all things these are just a pair of Christians Christians of the taunts I love these shoes because they have an incredibly tall heel and they're famous for the red bottoms of course but did you know Pedro that Christian just lost in court with YSL wanted to come out with shoes and have the bottom be red as well and Christian was trying to hold on to it because that's their signature look of their shoe and they lost so YSL I believe is going to come out with the red bottoms also and it's kind of like what I did not know that at all actually amazing craftsmanship and the bottoms are painted red in the beginning just to draw some amazing attention and I love them they're comfortable and these are like I don't know what is this like five inch five and a half inch well my little fingers oh my god what is this over here on my shoe shoes are a girl's best friend I think I have maybe about a mini pair I'm sure you have like freaking 20 million I think I have like maybe like 250 pairs of stilettos right now but you know it's okay I justify by saying I'm not a smoker I'm not a you know big drinker I have my you know little fetishes but the money that people would spend on cigarettes or something like that that's going to harm them or it's not good for them you know I spent on shoes well isn't that what all your girls do anyway thank you we spend money on well we spend money on shoes too yeah so I like this I like these shoes they're one of my favorite outfits that you had was the pink dress for your birthday and then you rolled up with the pink limo I was like oh my god I'm a big Hello Kitty fanatic fan she's a big Hello Kitty fan if you ever want to buy her anything go to the Hello Kitty store and get her everything that you drink jewelry collection Morley Simmons jewelry collection of Hello Kitty you know that was my 32nd my 32nd birthday party I just wanted to be such a girl you know the pink and like the crystals and all that stuff happening and the cake was amazing all my friends came out so I really appreciate it speaking about age you know I've been reading a lot of my America's Next Top Model All-Star tweets and you know facebook entries and just things that are on the blogs everyone is just like so down on like you know my age my age my age and you know I just wanted to say that I'm here like I was considered for All-Star and I made it and sometimes it's not about your biological age and your genealogical age meaning if you did a test or study how young your body actually is like you could put me up to a 25 year old who drinks and smokes or doesn't go to the gym and it's not taking care of themselves and actuality you know I'm younger because I'm healthier I spent a lot of time in the gym you know and eating healthy so can I get some credit out there somebody called me somebody called me a grandma I don't think so I mean you have women like Naomi Campbell who's like 46 and she's still working open any magazine she's on the cover she's on you know the back she's in her spreads for amazing companies like YSL like the generation now models are definitely getting older and they're getting better at time I would trade nothing to go back to being something like when you reached the age of you know you're in your 30s you definitely have way more knowledge than you did when you were younger and it's just amazing to be in the space that I am and now and all those girls who are younger they're definitely going to have to be where I am now so take notes exactly I know I mean that's like a really tough like environment really it is I mean compared to you know photography like yeah we have competition but it's not the same competition that you know you will get as a model I mean I'm 33 right now and everyone's like hair blowing back like you're 33 yeah and I have current you know campaigns going on and I'm working I have my agency right now other models of color who are 33 are Alec Weck you have Lily Kabeke Yasmin we have Naomi Lenore I mean the list basically goes on you know and I look forward to being just as profitable in terms of success and finances as you know a Veronica Web you know Tyra Banks who's 38 and Platt Cleveland she's 59 years old and she is like killing it so you know I definitely give props to women like Slady Banks and Jessica White who are in their late 20s but they're still grinding and they're still working and we are women of color so at times we can appear younger than we really are so I'm just blessed to still be in the game and still be grinding I've been doing this since I was 15 years old you know so there's way more things to come in my future so well congratulations to everything you've done thank you I am very proud of you and so are all the fans out there you're an amazing woman and just keep doing you and don't worry about nobody else and don't worry about a girl because you're going to be successful no matter what keep that smile going and I wanted to ask you one more question so what do you have coming up for us in the future other than America's top model I have a lot coming up like I said I look up to these icons of models and I just name for you from you know Beverly Peel, Beverly Johnson all the pioneers who came before me Aman and they've all transitioned their careers from modeling some still are modeling to having their own lines of product and even Cindy Crawford I mean it's amazing so God willing hopefully I'm thinking of coming out with the shoe line signature walk why not stilettos so you can do your own signature walk and also a cookbook like the questions we received today from all of you wonderful Facebook and Twitter fans I just want to share with the world my diet plan what it is that I eat because like I said my family is from the Caribbean so I have a lot of exotic stuff that you would think there's no way that you know I'm eating it and I'm staying so slim and so skinny but it's amazing so I hope that my venture and those two things will definitely take off so I can share with you guys yay oh I'm looking forward to this cookbook cookbook and also has some lifestyle things that you can do to stay in shape as well like small hints about exercise so forth and so on and it's really simple and it's nothing better than eating healthy and working out and having an amazing pair of stilettos well maybe I can give you a couple of tips on how to cook some Spanish that's right come on bring it on some gandules or something okay okay some platanos alright well thank you for coming on my show and I want you to tell everybody how they can find you on Facebook and Twitter and everything give them all your information because I'm pretty sure everybody wants to get in touch definitely well this is Camille McDonald and you've been watching the PVAS show contact with me simply go to my Twitter which is at Camille McDonald or my Facebook which is Camille McDonald as well but make sure you hit me up on my fan page on Facebook or you can check out and follow my current career at www.camillemcdonald.com and I will see you for America's next top model all stars September 14th 2011 see you then there you go thank you guys for watching and see you next time bye bye


We are thrilled to have Comptroller Scott Springer here. Springer! Oh my God! I've been saying it all day. I am so sorry. I have Commissioner Scott Springer here. He always has deeply inspiring things to say about the arts, and he has been here with the League of Independent Theater since the beginning. Please help me welcome Mr. Comptroller Springer. Thank you. Wow, this is my first comedy routine. I'm going to be very brief because you have a great keynote speaker in Julie Menden, but I wanted to come by because some years ago when I was borough president, we had an organizing meeting and we basically put the marker down and said, look, if people in theater and arts and independent theater do not become politically engaged, we're going to slowly see arts and culture leave the city. And I want to tell you two quick things about what happens when we fight back and we think out of the box and how we can change lives. And the first work that I did is control an additional report that showed clearly that 400 schools around the city had no certified arts education teacher. Think about that. 400, we put out a report. But here's how government's supposed to work. When we put out the report, the New York City Council said $17 million in the first budget and said, no, we're going to make sure we fund arts teachers. I remember to this day meeting with Mayor de Blasio at City Hall and he said, is this report true? And I said, yes, sir, it's true. He said, well, we're going to do something about it. We brought in arts education specialists and we started to build that. That happened because government made it happen. And we began to figure out the inequality of certified arts education in schools around the city, but not in Central Brooklyn and the South Bronx. That's step number one. Step number two is we just put out a report showing that basically Donald Trump's attempt to defund and get rid of the NEA will have dire consequences for the city of New York. 419 arts education grants are given to New York City. When you have an NEA grant, it's a multiplier. It's a certification that says you're doing well. It opens up other cultural funding. So I tell you these two stories. One, about what's possible when we win. And second, why we have to be vigilant. Why we have to scrutinize candidates. Why we have to continue to build a political base because arts and culture matter. It's not just about arts and culture per se. It's about the high tech economy. It's about the creative economy. It's about making sure our children have the kind of economy and training they need to be successful. It all starts with what happens here tonight. So I just want to say to the leadership of this group, keep doing what you're doing. Every candidate tonight matters to the people of the city and you're leading the way. Thank you all very much.


Joe Chicho. What is your personal opinion on AI-generated art? We talked about this last stream. I'm gonna load that up today by the way. There's been a movement among artists recently fighting yesterday, but it's obviously never going to go away and is only going to get better. What do you think it means for the future of art? I think the artists fighting yesterday are silly because it's just a tool as far as I see it. It's gonna be mixed, remixed, and stuff like this. It's technology. It's just new technology. I don't think it's ever gonna take over, not by a long shot. I think people will adjust their consumption. It's consumption behaviors to consume real art, right? Not that AI-generated is not a real art. It's just a remix, right? And the only reason it's making a hoo-ha right now is because it's a novel. Oh, look! Something new, right? The buzz will go away. Personally, if I'm gonna go see a show, right? For example, because art is music. Right now it's happening with visual art, but they've tried it out with a sound as well, right? Here's a music or a sound that an AI-generated is created or they have and they will, right? But if I'm gonna go to see a show, I'm gonna go see a DJ or a band, right? I don't care about AI-generated music. It might be interesting for a little bit of time, but it's just something, it's a blip on the radar, right? That's my take.


f those costs continue but i think one of the things we could learn is if we you know try some ideas because we don't have the runway we'd like to necessarily for this i think by the time we're starting to put next year's budget together we're going to have a sense of what those costs are and what those costs are so we can we can put some of those costs into more of a continuing revenue stream it's like wow you know this idea really worked this is you know $75,000 extra we're gonna gonna need to make sure the um you know heavy roxbury kits at ues works or we you know we spent $30,000 on this one-time thing and and no one's using it so are you agreeing with him no i'm i'm saying i think we should i think we should should take a pot from the reserve yeah and and use that and then kind of figure out which of those one-time expenditures look like they might need a budget line and which ones don't and then we can we can have that information when we get next year's budget i agree with that i would not add to this tax rate in any way shape or form i would put it i would i think that i would expend or i would ask the board to um put aside some fund balance this budget needs to pass and some and some things we don't have to set money aside for right necessarily right just maybe you have spent money from the fund balance for things like up until $40,000 yeah yeah so yeah we don't have to make a decision tonight i think is another thing i'm saying yes about how much would come from the fund balance into a transition fund it can make decisions about what the transition needs and then come to the board and say we would like to use this much of the fund balance it could be a recommendation from the credit right and i'm fine with that yeah i i really i think what i just wanted to articulate is what i hear as a i think a unanimous commitment to really sort of putting our money where our mouth is on on making this transition work yeah yeah i just want to say thank you tim for for bringing that up and i do agree uh that i think this feels like the work of the committee uh that i think we need to kind of re uh re-imagine and and give a different scope uh to and i think it could be dealt with after the fact and coming from the fund balance would make the most sense versus altering this budget some thoughts about next year um basically and and it's late at night so maybe some other time but i'm interested in is there another salary increase coming next year yes and do we know the percentage when you say next year next year 2025 or 26? FY26 well we'll negotiate with the union next year pardon we'll negotiate with the union with two unions again next year starting negotiations for FY26 for FY26 okay and then health insurance there's nothing changing at the state level so that's likely to be similar yes uh and then earlier we were talking about the different bargaining units and i'm sorry if this is over my head but there were two of them that have late march dates and then one has an early february date dates for what for uh renewing contracts so so renewing contracts is something different okay if notice so renewing contracts that teachers have are mainly the ones that have the date the i a something the apps me i'm not i couldn't name the exact date off the top of my head um do you know that at the top of your head yeah okay or morrises yeah i just don't have that i think that's more later spring but we have to get contracts out to teachers april 15th and then another who who gets their contracts in february administrators so um you know i find it problematic that in the case of a rejected budget that there is a group of employees who are essentially protected i think everyone should be on the same time frame in the interest of equity and i don't know if that's negotiable or how we work that but that's a high priority for me the statute wouldn't allow the board to do that for principals because it's in statute that principals who have sat in their position for two years need to have a need to have a contract renewed to them by or non-renewed by february first our principal is the only people in that group yes okay all right then i need to think about that more there's not much the board could do there is what i'm saying for that particular position board could negotiate with our other administrators the the hiring time frame for administrators is very different than teachers so we have we have a phenomenal leadership team that i like to keep the people in the position we have a phenomenal team i hear what you're saying that that doesn't line up with budget i hear that fact that most definitely so you could try to negotiate a clause into that contract around budget passage or something like that that's something the board could try it's negotiable though also as a as a you know someone my seventh or eighth month um something like that but as i learned more about the how the district operates um you know i would like to be able to understand better which cuts when we do have to talk about cuts impact learning the most um you know we learned at our september 30th meeting way before all of us that um district staff um had increased by 61 percent in the past five years it's not inaccurate i don't know where that number comes from it's on on the bottom of the presentation from that day um but what my point is that um you know and at that time oh sorry that's not administrative staff alone right that would be all the district including teachers ias right which was which was necessitating the need for more space that's the way it was framed yeah i see what you're saying now i thought you were just talking about administrators increasing by 61 percent that's not an accurate statement so you know i'm very hesitant to cut any teachers um but vermont you know has by far the lowest staff to student ratio in the state so if we do need to cut again i'd like to learn more about the possibilities and have more control over it and in the past couple weeks all i've really felt like i had control over is rocksbury yes or no and i'd like to learn more about the district and and have more input on on how we configure our staff and class size might be another thing we might want to revisit state might do that for us we might want to get out of that though we don't like it with the state doesn't this is true this is true the state generally makes good decisions i just want to say i agree with jake no one's coming anymore but i agree um that felt really unfair and arbitrary and so when we are looking at literally individuals it felt like the timing which i realized was out of our control i think i would i agree that i would really want to know all of the things i mean i keep thinking about like the windows at the middle school that i drive by every day they look terrible and i know eventually they're going to get replaced um so there are other places that we really didn't have time to go into but i feel like that timeline felt really unfair when we're talking about individuals and their jobs that there was like a group of folks who are also incredibly valuable just because of timing we're a part of that equation okay great for the discussion let's do Scott no one's going to call the question i don't think this is going to be as split as the last vote but let's do roll anyways because it's a big one uh jake should i re-state the motion yes um i move that we worn a budget of 30 million 575 thousand 415 dollars for fy 25 for a district second that second oh you did that didn't mean you didn't say um i'll vote yes right yes yes yes yes yes yes christin yes we have a second budget we cannot officially tell people to vote for it but i will say that um i i really feel that that this board has stepped up and done a lot of hard work to respond to a very difficult situation um our our district needs stability to educate our kids um and i ask everybody to go to the polls and do what they feel is best for our town and our kids in our communities uh it's well i also was curious whether or not the possib this possibility has been discussed at the level of how to support students right now who are going to rvs liby i'm wondering i don't know how it's gonna i don't know if they're gonna need extra supports around for the rest of the week or i don't know if that's a possibility or if that's too detailed i don't want to be too deep i don't want to be micromanaging or anything i'm just really holding what um is going to be a lot of fear and um thus far what has happened just murray has written scripts for rvs teachers that they have used this week and last um we have a partnership with up for learning that works with student voice and last year did a fantastic job with the transition for our fourth graders that planning process for fourth graders have just started and we are planning on increasing their their capacity to work with all of our kids for transitions and that's as far as we've gotten right now do you have any advice for what i should say to my children um you know your children's best friend so i would what i would say to my children is you have the opportunity to meet even more people who are going to love you that's what i would say to my kids how lucky are you be if you're not freaked out your kids won't be freaked out and the more upset the parents are the more that's going to transfer to the kids and they're going to have more fear about it so i think just make it a normalized step that's going to happen next year and so i want to i want to voice the commitment that i hope that the board shares that are we have a responsibility to not just the students but to the parents and to everyone that's going to be dramatically affected by this transition i hope that the board shares in that commitment what what support we can offer to parents i'm not sure but if we can i am determined to do anything that we can i think this is a perfect segue into the conversation that i started to start um and um so our our committee charge from whenever that was it seems like ages uh make a recommendation to the board by september 18th 2024 um i i think the timeline needs to be cut at least in half um whether to continue to educate elementary age students at rbs that decision has already been made and so i think at the time i was one of the ones advocating that it should be whether to and not how to and so now i've got to correct my misstatement and go back to it being um how to um what transition i don't know what the wording is um but but i think we need we need some work around the how um and then i want to jump down to the committee makeup um i had a long conversation with miriam uh and she disagreed with my rationale for why i didn't think students should be on the committee um i actually think now because the board made the decision that it did um that having students and teachers on the committee um makes more sense and i also wonder whether or not i i i wonder if the board makeup makes sense or not do we need i think we need people to know i think we need a lot of people from roxbury to be able to say what the needs are um and i think we need some people with expertise about how to how to do this i might not say how to educate because that seems to be talking about what we actually do in the classroom i would say how to transition support the transition i'm just using cross-outs so we don't lose anything but once the board decides i'll take those out and lemme i saw you you shot nodding your head when i was talking about the committee makeup um and so i i it sounds like the concern that you had about teachers is no longer concerned as well okay cool yeah of course yeah and i think yeah um do you want to make a recommendation or do you want them to like inform a successful facilitated informed and successful process make recommendations yeah make recommendations during and you need a new sentence um what you just said this committee will inform and what should i not make recommendations facilitate thank you facilitate um process and should we maybe say we'll meet bi-weekly and make recommendations on a rolling basis and i think you know maybe stuff should be coming off before it's potentially yes well i was gonna say like a rolling yeah question is valid right how do you prepare your kids for a big transition i almost feel like eliminating the date entirely and having it at least an ad hoc committee yeah well that's why i said we have to have to meet like every two weeks and make recommendations on a rolling basis so they're well you could say they will make any recommendation um for decisions that need to be made by the school board for instance that opens up funds for or uh using fund balance or something like that it could also i don't know what else the board would need to decide but because i haven't thought i agree i i think it needs to be captured in the charge in in terms of this committee's role um with with fund balance you know identifying you know strategies for transition that may require um fund balance you know to the extent it makes sense for this group to be coming up with um specific dollar amount requests from the fund balance but i want to make sure that it's very clear i think we've all signaled here tonight that there very much could be a monetary um impact that could allow for some really supportive transition plans i don't think we want to be outrageous here but things that just really ensure a high integrity and supportive transition and that this committee um will make recommendations in terms of um access to the uh to the fund balance and i think just in terms of timeline i agree it makes obviously it makes sense to scrap the september date but i do want to um emphasize um kind of pace and experience around um busing and after school this doesn't necessarily you know need to go into the charge but um i think those two pieces are incredibly important for roxbury families to have a very clear understanding of to the to the extent that we can work as hard as we possibly can to make sure that there is clarity around busing and after school before the end of the school year i realize that that is a tight timeline but i think that at the end of the school year families evaporate our lines of communication are more difficult to um to track down and i think that these are two of the biggest most fundamental pieces that are really shaking roxbury families right now in terms of this um transition so i would want to make sure that this committee knows that we need to move immediately quickly and specifically i think focus on the transportation and after school piece yeah no i i agree with that and i think the end of the school year is a great target date to have those pieces worked out because i think you're right christ it's going to be hard to do it's going to be hard to do over the summer and i also think it's going to be good for families to have those answers for themselves and their kids by the end of this school year so they have a little more certainty about going going into next year yes i don't think they want a letter on august 20th telling that absolutely not and that would be unacceptable also yeah jim i think i think i heard you mentioned something along the lines of a bi-weekly meeting schedule um would that then afford the committee to at least make periodic reports back to the board at our meetings since we also meet bi-weekly i don't know if i mean i would imagine in the beginning it might be a little bit slow but those recommendations as we move into may and june might start coming more frequently the board has six more board meetings in this year yeah and that leads to some of our six or seven meetings of that committee i would i would i would think so especially if there's a especially i mean i think we should probably at least a board member on that committee as it lays on uh i mean right now we have four i don't think we need four i think we should probably have a board member or two on that committee to and other other committees report back yeah after each meeting so it would be okay cool thank you and thank you just have an item on the on our chapter until yeah the transition is well underway or well take care of yeah um sorry some things will happen this spring when kids visiting stuff like that right yeah okay is it okay for me sp yeah so far yeah yeah i just can't see what's going on in the room um i have lost track of the charge a little bit but did we retain um deliberating the future role of the rbs building in the mrps district because i think what we've done tonight right is we have initiated a transition of rbs students to us um but a a quote closure of the school or you know mrps no longer having an educational purpose for the building is really kind of the piece that's referenced in the act 46 agreement that also requires a board vote and then you know there are clearly negotiations with the town and i i know that that is going to be weighing heavily on people's minds um tonight starting tonight um and so is that piece included here just did christin thank you that last sentence in the okay okay thank you i will say i think that conversation will take longer yep so i want to give the committee a short deadline for their whole charge if we're also asking them to tasking the tasking the committee with the future use of the building so um anyway i can't remember did we actually we we did end of the school year for a couple of these key questions but not yeah anyway yeah i mean so i as i see it now there is no deadline so this is an ad hoc committee that we've we're creating and so the the charge right includes the sort of more short term needs of the families and also includes the medium to long term concerns about things like after school programming some are potentially future use of the building so it's it's over with no finite deadline it might be that the board can also revise this charge yes committee could revise this charge yeah good for the revised charge should like to hear it read out loud yeah we read it out loud this committee will inform and facilitate the transition process to move students from rvs to us starting the 2024 2025 school year they'll make any recommendation to the board regarding strategies that may need fund balance money or board decision the committee will design and implement a process to engage the communities in both roxbury and montpelier the committee will use the mrps state of priorities as a guide and base its recommendations on the following factors educational including academics and safety belonging and wellness considerations financial considerations and staffing considerations particularly particular strategies that will be considered by the committee include but not limited to transportation after school programming and future use of the building do you want to like grammar or syntax like that no anna will do that at 10 o'clock no i don't i'm so glad you were do we want to put do we want to have two board members christin and i and it says two to three community members from both montpelier and roxbury do you want to do two from montpelier and four from roxbury and maybe two students from each from roxbury and two students from montpelier not necessarily any particular school but something like that if they're willing to join us i honestly think that the students i think it's imperative that we get some older students from roxbury yeah that's that's what that's what i that's what i think it's most imperative kids who have done the transition here yeah yeah i absolutely agree with that so should there be more than two kids i do you think it would be helpful to have two kids from montpelier i think we should ask our what they are not here right now i would nominate our student school board members i mean i think we say two to four and that way it gives us from each from each town each town each town kind of yeah something like that i will tell you quite honestly that our students are so busy in the spring that it's it it will be very hard to get four students who can who can attend regularly yeah for many from either place like it's just the reality of having committees in the spring um yeah i'm i'm uh somewhat confident in the roxbury folks who have had to deal with that yeah and which what i'm more that's more the voice that i think we need to most definitely here i'd be interested still be interested in being in the committee and i i really support having a montpelier board rep on the committee and not just having christin ret carry that support yeah no no i'd be happy to continue serving on it as well but also i don't i don't need to i think lin and and if christin or ret want to do that i don't i don't think they need to carry it but i do think that they have a different connection to the roxbury community and the montpelier voters or the montpelier board members do i'm pretty sure we both want to do it so i'd say both of you want to do it then let's put both of you on it although that creates a quorum do we do we care but they're one meeting they're one yeah we can't yeah it's a committee of the board so yeah i just i have a question um i i could see us certainly wanting to tap into the wisdom of teachers um and as well as potentially other administrators i don't know that they need to serve on the board but i guess i would ask liby or sorry on the committee but i would ask liby you know could you serve as a liaison and kind of helping us to navigate like okay who could we tap into within the district staff that could help like you know just mary's skill set nick connor's skill set and just how we could you know the committee could could tap into them of course yeah great we could put um advising capacity from mrps staff great as needed sorry for ever we're talking about first and fourth grade students being on this committee to help decide the future rocks break building who are the students from roxford high school kids who are in the middle and i do think there is value in and we had it in the old charge but um the advisor i can't remember the wording but but we may find that there's value in speaking with yeah those students and not having them on the committee yes yes and and they're open yeah anyone can and and part of what these committees have done in the past is organize um sort of a forum a forum which would engage the kids in the elementary school just they wouldn't be part of the committee but that's a big part of what we would be doing i think along with the district support for the kids this for right now i think we're good for this right now i i think we should definitely do a ton of quick outreach and get those people yeah lined up i want to acknowledge the current staff at rvs who have communicated their love for that school and their commitment to the community and to those kids and who have really come together i think over the last few years with libyan others leadership um all reports suggest that that flywheel that's happening in the district district was really really churning at rvs and i just want to acknowledge all that hard work and i want to appreciate you all and you know encourage you to um i don't know just to finish the year strong i don't know yeah and thank you for college never it's not that this this was this was a hard decision we did not want to make that it was not any indication of of the education that's occurring there are the the wonderful folks that are are doing fantastic work there i know that that staff right now is really really strong and really excellent policy monitoring policy monitoring i mean we approve the policy monitor reports for policies c 28 and d 5 c 28 being transgender and gender non-conforming students and d 5 being animal dissection do you have a second i'll second any discussion all is in favor i any opposed um motion to adjourn second okay all is in favor i thank you everyone it's uh somber night but i'm really proud of the work that's been put in and i know that all of you have uh earned earned your thousand dollars


Live from Orlando, Florida, it's theCUBE. Covering Sapphire Now, headline sponsored by SAP HANA Cloud, the leader in platform as a service. With support from Console Inc, the cloud internet company. Now, here are your hosts, John Furrier and Peter Burris. Hey, welcome back everyone. We are here live in Orlando, Florida for Sapphire Now SAP Show exclusive coverage from SiliconANGLE Media as theCUBE, our flagship program. We go out to the events and extract the signal from the noise. I'm John Furrier with my co-host, Peter Burris, head of research at SiliconANGLE Media. I want to give a shout out to our sponsors, SAP HANA Cloud Platform, Console Inc, Berksha Stream, EMC, and CapCham and I. Thanks for your support, really appreciate it. Our next guest is Michael Brucci, who is the SAP Global VP of Partner Solutions. Welcome to theCUBE. Thank you very much. It's an honor to be here. The theme of the ecosystem has been pretty big, but the ecosystem as we've been learning on theCUBE is the channels of ours, the Vabs, the ISVs, all that stuff going on there. But the global channel, your involvement, is the big integrators, the much more advanced traditional SAP partners, back in the old days of big six accounting firms that were doing the early day employment deployments. Now they're doing the cloud. So what's different now? What are you guys doing? Share with the audience some of the things that you guys are doing today, and you're talking about at Sapphire this week. Yeah, you know, I think one of the big changes, and one of the things I'm always curious of is time and over generations, how the element of time has changed. And in the old days, when you talked about the big six or the big eight, it was probably more about implementations. It was more about how do I get this software to actually run and do something for me? And while that's still an important element, it has to get done. A lot of it today is really about innovation. And it's how does SAP and how do our business partners help our customers innovate their business? So it's not just about implementing a piece of financial software. It's about how do they innovate their business so that they can create a competitive advantage for themselves. So I look at it and say implementations are important and we absolutely have to go do that. But if we don't help our customers innovate, then they might as well just be standing still because their competition or somebody that doesn't even exist yet is going to come up with an idea or a way to go do something that's going to pass them by. It's interesting too, the global channel is obviously very effective in terms of delivering value to the market. But it's interesting, you have a customer who has a customer, customer, customer, customer. So it's like three levels down, but the partner is close to the customer. So Peter said something on Monday, I thought was interesting about the trend we're on. I want to get your thoughts on this and how it relates to the innovation piece. In the old days it was known processes and used unknown technologies that were being figured out to automate those processes, deliver those technologies, accounting, ERP. Now you have unknown processes developing with known technology. And technology's obviously getting developed more and more. But the unknown processes like IoT, these are use cases where it's a complete digital transformation on the workflow. So it's kind of unknown. So this is where the innovation comes in. I want to get your thoughts. What innovation aspects do you see and processes that are developing that are getting a clear line of sight for the partners? Obviously big data is one, we see that all the time. What would you share? What insights? Spend a minute to talk about that. Yeah, it's a great question because I believe that this is one of the big differentiators that SAP is bringing to the market in that I talked a little bit about time and the importance of getting information on a real time basis. It's interesting, I learned from one of my colleagues this morning that the R in our earlier products was for real time. But their perspective on real time was the fact that it wasn't on punch cards. I mean, this was at the beginning of our company and you think about where we are today. For our customers, when they innovate the business and you look at things like the internet of things and you want that connectivity, it's not good enough to connect to the systems they have today because if I can't process that data in real time, then it doesn't, what do I do with it? What service can I provide to my customer? And that's part of the innovation or the enabling of innovation that SAP brings to the table with S for HANA is the fact that not only can I help you connect those devices, those internet of things, but I can help you do something with those devices, do it in real time and provide that feedback directly to you as an organization and to your customer immediately. And what's interesting too on the ecosystem play and this is highlighted as well and I'll get your thoughts on is as these discoveries come up, people in the trenches who see customer needs in a vertical or a domain specific expertise set, they see an opportunity to innovate, then they got actually programming. So they need a developer approach, right? So the developer approach becomes a pretty big deal. So now they see an opportunity to problem to abstract away the complexity and deliver it. So again, time is important, but they have to program it. It actually writes software, right? So take a step back and say, okay, how long is that going to take? So what's interesting, the ecosystem you guys are putting together is a time to value equation. What's the perspective on that? I mean, because that becomes now a developer cloud concept, the platform as a service and the ecosystem. What are you guys seeing there and what use cases can you share? I'll give you a real live example for me and what we do and how we operate our business with our global business partners. When we decide to go to market with a global systems integrator to address a specific business problem, it's important for us to be able to track and measure whether what we're doing is being effective or not. If we create some sort of a campaign that distributes that message to our customers or our prospects, how many of them come forth are actually interested in it and do we create business opportunity? And once we've created business opportunity, we get it closed. Now we really want to track and measure where is it in the implementation? When do they go live? Once they've gone live, let's create a story so we can share that with the rest of the marketplace so that people can see the value that other customers are getting for what we do. We didn't really have a system to be able to track that. I came into this role about two years ago and for the first year we took something we had and we sort of got the duct tape out and we wrapped it up and we used it to do the best that we could but we realized it really wasn't adequate for what we wanted to go do. So we actually contracted with one of our business partners and we had them develop an application for us utilizing HANA Cloud Platform. So it's a HANA Cloud Platform based application. It's fully integrated with our CRM system and the beauty of it is in the old world if you didn't look at the innovative tools that SAP has available today, if you went back to the old way of doing things it probably would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and it would have done. We wouldn't have, well and that's part of the reason why we didn't have anything. That's right. It's because we could never get it done. That's right. So we contract with one of our business partners who is an expert with HANA Cloud Platform and they develop an application for us in literally weeks. That's awesome. We defined our business requirements, we used our own technology, worked with a third party company, that's a business partner, to go develop an application that solves a business problem. Yeah, now we had to go through the exercise of defining what our business requirements were but the fact that we could do that and we were able to do it economically, that's one of those big differences between the way that we used to do things and the way that we can do things today and that's the important message for our customers is that if you have to take months or years and spend thousands and thousands of dollars to get things done, your competition will pass you by. Somebody you don't even know exists today will pass you by. We need to enable them so that they can be innovative, they can be quick and they can respond to the requirements that are happening in the marketplace so that they can create their own innovations. We did that for ourselves. We used our own technology to do that. But the other thing I'm presuming, I'll bet you, well, let me put it this way, there's been a consistent theme here that the platform approach allows that backend, that traditional SAP, that stable, that secure, that compliant foundation, that it allows innovation to occur in a way that doesn't freak out the IT organization. Exactly. And when I say that you probably weren't going to be able to get it done a few years ago, is that someone within the IT organization would have come and whacked you with a hammer. But because you're using your own technology, and this is the test, this is the question, to what degree did you no longer have to run that traditional gauntlet of getting it up and running it into production and integrated with the rest of the system? Yeah, so we hadn't spoken about this before, and your question's great, because I'd indicated that there was a solution that we had. I hesitated using the word solution because it really wasn't designed for what we were trying to go do. It was built on technology from somebody else. It wasn't built on SAP technology. And there were probably two driving factors to move off of that system. Number one, it didn't adequately meet our business requirements. But number two, the IT department said, the clock is ticking. We will only support this for so long. You need to move to HANA, and you need to utilize SAP tools in order to get the support that you're looking for. So in some respects, we were forced to go do it, but we were able to embrace and adopt the new technologies that we have available. And by doing that, we got ourselves back into something that was standard, that our IT operation could support and get it done much more quickly and get it done much more economically, where in the past we could never get it done. So one of the things that's been occurring here on theCUBE over the past couple of days, John, you have a lot of interviews with a lot of people that are part of the overall ecosystem. And SAP has an enormous amount of talent that's devoted to trying to drive the productivity and the success and the value of partners and the whole ecosystem for customers. As you look forward, when you think about collaboration, you heard Hasso talk this morning about some of the new technology in his keynote, some of the new technologies, some of the ways that's going to make it easier for smart, high quality, high success people to work together. Talk a little bit about how you think technology is going to make it easier for you to work with all of the SAP experts and folks who are trying to bring value to the ecosystem for customers. So today, pretty much all of our global systems integrators are creating innovation centers that will allow them to take advantage of these tools and to quickly develop and deploy assets that will help customers solve specific business problems. And so I believe what we'll be able to have, and I'm envisioning one in particular that happens to be in the same town that I live in, we will be able to work very, very quickly with that organization and integrate that group on a global basis. So it doesn't matter if the business problem is in the United States or if the business problem is in Asia Pacific or in Latin America. We can create those assets in a single location and deploy them anywhere across the globe. And it's interesting when I go around the globe and I meet with business partners, sometimes the challenge that they have is to understand all of the assets that are available within their own organization. And with the way that they're setting up these, some of them will call them solution centers, some of them will call them innovation centers, but essentially these centers of excellence where they have the ability to bring the right resources together who have the industry knowledge, they have the line of business knowledge, they've got the technical expertise that they can develop these kinds of solutions that can be deployed in the cloud and can be deployed anywhere across the globe. Big buzz this week has been the Apple announcement. Obviously that's going to impact you guys because it's one great, sexy announcement. Everyone loves Apple, it billions in the cash, two thirds overseas, but then you guys are global company, hopefully take advantage of that. That's going to bring a lot of attention to the ecosystem and more, and certainly put a spring in the step for developers that's going to attract a non-SAP set of folks. Yet you guys have an open choice model where you can buy SAP end-to-end, do all the greatness and goodness of SAP, but for the most part, you might get new customers. How is that impacting the game? Because that's now opens SAP ecosystem up to a boatload of new opportunities. How are you guys structured for that? What's your thoughts on that? How are you guys organizing the capture of that opportunity?  So it's a great opportunity. How are you organizing it? How are you taking that to market? I think that one of the things, certainly as we work with our business partners, especially, it's not about just working with them where they have their SAP expertise. They're not the only people that communicate either with our customers or with prospects, people who aren't our customers. And so one of the things that we're really trying to do is to ensure that where they have digital practices and those digital practices aren't necessarily within the SAP practice at all. As a matter of fact, they're not. It's really working and collaborating with them and helping them understand how the SAP today has the ability to work with them and to work with customers who haven't necessarily implemented anything of SAP today. Whether you're the smallest enterprise or you're the largest global corporation, we have solutions that we can jointly come in together and solve business problems. And the consumerization of IT is happening, so that certainly is an exclamation point on that. I thought Haso's example today was outstanding because it took something that he's absolutely got on his app and say, you wouldn't be able to do this any other way. And to be able to open SAP up to the user, regardless of whether it's somebody just walking down the street or it's somebody within the four walls of a corporation, and to be able to use those Apple devices in order to access that information and to make decisions that have an impact on what they do day in and day out, it's pretty significant. I mean, it's going to be a competitive advance for you guys, and I think one of the things that's not being discussed heavily, mainly because it's one of those things people don't like to talk about is money making. A huge money making opportunity exposing the SAP customer base to all this white space developer opportunities could be fantastic. Yeah, well yeah, and it also opens it up to a set of developers who may not have historically even looked at developing on an SAP platform. Michael, thanks so much for spending the time on theCUBE, really appreciate great conversation, great insights, sharing the data here on theCUBE. The CUBE ecosystem is growing, got a new CUBE alumni. Michael, welcome to theCUBE, appreciate it. You're live here at SAP Sapphire, you're watching theCUBE.


Hello and welcome to this session. This is Professor Farhad in which we will discuss the cost recovery method. The cost recovery method is the most conservative method in recognizing profit. Simply put, it waits until you recover your cost before you recognize any profit on any particular sale. The cost recovery method is used when you collect your cash over a period of time because you're waiting until you recover your cost and there is no basis of estimating in collectible. Simply put, there's a high degree of in collectibility. Simply put, you make a sale, you sell something and you ask the customer to make installment sales, to make payments. But you cannot recognize any profit until you recover your cost. Maybe you don't recover your cost until the third payment or the fifth payment or the sixth payment. Why?  Because if you don't recover your cost, you should not have any profit. Well, then guess what? Wait until you recover your cost. Now what type of companies uses this method in the real world? There's a company called Rent-A-Center. Maybe you heard of them. You will see their trucks maybe in your town or in your city because of the high degree of in collectibility. They are very generous in their credit policies. They basically allow anyone to rent from them. Guess what? Because you have that high generous credit policy. Some people may not pay because they were not supposed to rent them in the first place. Therefore, they would use this method. So no profit is booked till you recover your cost. It's even more conservative than the installment method that we work in another session. In the installment method, you recognize profit as you receive cash. The cost recovery method, you don't recognize any profit unless you have recovered your cost. The best way is to look at an example. Before we proceed any further, I have a public announcement about my company, foreheadlectures.com. Forehead accounting lectures is a supplemental educational tool that's going to help you with your CPA exam preparation as well as your accounting courses. My CPA material is aligned with your CPA review course such as Becker, Roger, Wiley, Gleam, Miles. My accounting courses are aligned with your accounting courses broken down by chapter and topics. My resources consist of lectures, multiple choice questions, true-false questions, as well as exercises. Go ahead. Start your free trial today. No obligation. No credit card required. Adam Company sold 51 acre lots for $20,000 each on installment for a total sales of a million in the state of Montana. So they sell 50 pieces of land. Each piece is an acre and each for $20,000. The cost for Adam to buy and develop the land was $400,000. So simply put, Adam is making $600,000 profit on this deal. The buyers were individuals who resides out of the state of Montana and there is a tend to be high degree of default on collection and it's difficult to estimate collection or in-collectable giving the current environment. So Adam sold those land on installment, but the problem is we don't know who's going to pay. We don't know who's not going to pay. There's a high degree of in-collectability. So what would Adam do under those circumstances? Well, Adam is being promised a million dollar and installment receivable or receivable is a million dollar. We debit this much. We credit land or land inventory for $400,000. Now the difference between those is $600,000 and that's basically the profit. What we're going to do for now, we're going to debit the third gross profit of $600,000. The third gross profit is a Contra AR, Contra receivable. Although we have a million dollar of receivable, we have a Contra profit, Contra receivable of $600,000 and this is basically the profit that we are going to recognize as we receive the cash. A year later, we received $250,000 in cash. We debit cash, credit installment receivable. This is year one. That's all. We cannot recognize any profit because the cash that we received have not recovered the cost of our delayed. In year two, we received cash of $450,000. Well, this is year two. We debit cash, credit installment receivable. Now in year one, we received $250,000. In year two, we received $450,000. So far we have received $700,000 in cash. What does that mean? It means we recovered our cost by year two and part of that $700,300 is now we can recognize as profit. What we do then in year two, we debit the third gross profit, we're starting to reduce the third gross profit by $300,000 and we credit realized profit for $300,000. So we did not book any profit until we got to year two because by year two, we recovered our cost. In year three, we received cash of $300,000 debit account receivable, credit installment receivable. Now going forward, any cash that we received, this is the remaining is profit. So this is year three. Therefore also in year three, we book another $300,000 in profit. Therefore $300,000, $300,000 in total, we booked $600,000 in profit on the income statement and the third gross profit is gone. And voila, we recognize he was lucky to collect all the money and recognize all the profit by year three. So this is how the cost method work, you wait until you recover your cost. What should you do now? Go to Farhat lectures and learn about the cost recovery, work, MCQs, true, false, that's going to help you understand revenue recognition better. Good luck, study hard and of course stay safe.


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