J-E-L-L-O! The Jell-O program starring Jack Benny with Mary Livingston and Phil Harris, this orchestra. The orchestra opens a program with Life Begins at Suite 16 from Scandals. On one of our recent programs, we said the Jell-O was delicious, served perfectly plain. Well it seems that one of our listeners objected to that, or she wrote in and said, there's no such thing as plain Jell-O. The shimmering mold of Jell-O in any one of those six beautiful colors just simply can't be plain. Well of course she's right about that, but what we meant was this. You don't have to add anything to Jell-O to make it delicious. You can serve it without any special dressing up and you'll have a grand dessert every time. For Jell-O brings you delicious extra rich fruit flavor that rivals the flavor of the fresh ripe fruit itself. But whether you serve Jell-O plain or with fruits, nuts, or whipped cream, you'll always find it makes a grand dessert. So insist on genuine Jell-O. Don't accept any substitutes. For there's only one Jell-O and only Jell-O brings you that special extra rich flavor. Look for the big red letters on the box. They spell Jell-O. Life Begins at Suite 16 from Scandals.  Well, Jell-O again, this is Sugar Benny talking. And Don, tell me what happened. My goodness, what's come over you? Oh, nothing, Jack, but after three years of working together so harmoniously, I feel that you deserve such a tribute from me. Oh, I see, Don. It took you three years to get that old feeling. I assure you had no other reason for that lovely eulogy. I mean no ulterior motive. Oh no, Jack, I've always been very fond of you in regard to you as a real pal. Oh, then the fact that there are only 12 more shopping days till Christmas had nothing to do with it? Huh? Absolutely not. I like you whether you buy me a gold cigarette case with my monogram on it or not. Hmm, then you weren't hinting or anything? No, Jack, I swear it on a box of Jell-O. What flavor? Raspberry. I thought so. I knew there was a reason for those sugary sentiments. Oh, hiya, Phil. Hello, Jack, old boy. Glad to see you, baby. Baby? Hmm, he likes me too. You know, folks, it's funny how the Yuletide season can put wings on a rat. So you're glad to see me, huh? Yes, Jack, and I never saw you looking better.  No, I do, huh?  You and Donna have become great fans of mine all of a sudden. Jack, I always thought you were a great guy and a very talented artist. Then why didn't you tell me? What for? You know it. Oh, that's right. And furthermore, that compliment I paid you had nothing to do with the Christmas present. That's a lie. It is not. Then take a note. All right, may I almost drop dead if I'm lying? That's fine, Phil. I'm going to nearly give you a present. Well, practically thanks. Let me tell you something, Phil. The way you've been acting this past year and your general attitude toward me, I wouldn't spend over 50 cents on a gift for you. You wouldn't spend over 50 cents on New Year's Eve? Why, I would, too. You'd have to get cockeyed first. Well, a little anesthetic helps. Anyway, I'm too smart to be fooled by you guys when you and your false compliments. Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way. Oh, hello, Mary. Hello, honeybunch. Honeybunch? Well, I suppose I'm a swell guy. You're glad to see me. And I look like a million dollars. You took the words right out of my hand. Oh, I see. Why don't you ask me for a kiss now? Go ahead. It's near Christmas.  That's more than your kiss would do. Oh, I don't know. I'm not so bad. How about the other night in the Trocadero when the lights went out? Was that you? Yes. Then I apologize. Oh, you apologize. Well, you wouldn't any other time. Why is it that you and Phil and Don are always so sweet to me right before Christmas and so nasty the day after? Look at the presents you give us. Well, what am I supposed to do? Spend a fortune on gifts for this bunch? No, but you're not supposed to win them on a punch board. A punch board? Yes. Say, if I can pick up a star sapphire for a quarter, I'm gonna do it.  I like to gamble. You like to gamble. You know I do. Didn't I try to make a bet with you on the Rose Bowl game? I'll say you tried. Why didn't you take him up, Phil? He only wanted California in 87 points. I did not.  What did I say, Mary? I don't know. I was flirting with a sailor. It's a fine thing, a girl like you standing on the street flirting with a sailor. You didn't even know his name. I did, too. What was it? SSY Oming. Well, you must have seen it someplace. Anyway, Phil, if you still want that bet, if you still want that bet, you're gonna have it. Go on, I'll bet with gamblers. Oh, I suppose I'm not. Well, around O'Farrell's pool room in Waukegan, I was known as Nick the Greek. Yes, sir. Is that true, Jack? Why, Don, I used to bet 10, 15 cents on the turn of a card. And if I lost, Ishka Bibble. You can't help yourself, Don. I'm a gambler and it's in my blood. Some gambler. He plays a slot machine with an axe. I do, huh? I had to hear this gang talk. You think I was a regular miser. I'm not afraid to part with my money. Then why do you keep a police dog in your pocketbook? A police dog? Now, that's just trying to be funny, that's all. I'll show you. Now look, folks, here's my pocketbook. You can see for yourself. Is there a police dog in it? I've been framed! All the low-underhanded tricks. Play, Phil. Now come clean, Mary. Did you have anything to do with this? That was Dipsy Doodle, played by Phil Harris and his orc. Orc? Yes, we've got a long program tonight, Mary, so I'm abbreviating. Anyway, it was very good, Phil. I thought that number was terrific, really coloss. Thanks, Jack, I appreciate that. That's the idea, Phil. You saved us half a sec there. Didn't he, Mary? Oh, but death. Well, Livy, that's co-opping. Jack, is our program really so long tonight? I'm afraid it is, Don. I see. Ladies and gents, when you're out shopping for an economic dessert, go to your naïve gross and consider jello. Very good, Don, very good. It comes in six delish flaves, straw, brass, chair, or lemon lumb. Lumb? He forgot abner. Quiet. So remember, folks, none is gin without the big red lets on the bees. That was swell, Don. Let's give him a hand, fellas. That's enough. Well, we must have saved about an hour and a half there. And now, folks, for our feature attraction of the evening and dramatic highlight, Kenny Baker will walk in late as usual. I'm not late. I was sitting here all the time. You were? Then why didn't you speak up? Because I didn't feel like it. That's why. What's the matter with you, Kenny? You're still fighting with your girl? Yes. Darn that love life of mine. Well, it's interfering with your work, and I won't put up with it. Now what happened? Oh, I went over to her house last night, and when I got there, I found another fellow sitting on a sofa with her. And she said it was her brother. Well? And she was kissing him. Well, that's no crime. A girl can kiss her brother, can't she? Not like that. Well, Kenny, she's got another fellow. Maybe your technique is wrong. Won't you ever bring her a present or anything? Oh, sure. Every time I go to see her, I bring a package of gum. I give her two sticks, and I take two sticks. Then what? We chew like the dickens. Well, that must be exciting. I'll bet when the flavor's gone, he goes home. Yeah. Imagine them sitting there, each chewing two sticks of gum. What happens to the extra stick, Kenny? The other guy gets that. Well, you're too generous. I'll tell you what to do, Kenny. Why don't you buy her a nice gift for Christmas? You know, something she can use, like perfume or stockings. Stockings? Yeah. See, I'd be a shame to ask for those. Oh. If you're afraid, Kenny, I'll buy them for you. No, I'll buy them. It might be a thrill. Sure it will, Kenny. You'll get a kick out of it. And now, folks, now that Kenny feels better, he's going to sing one of the... Pardon me, come in. Special delivery for Jake Benny. Right here, boy, and my name is Jack. I don't know you. Mine's Harry. Harry, that's a fine name with that bald head of yours. You should see my chest. Well, button your shirt and give me that letter. There you are. Goodbye. Who's the letter from Jack? Wait a minute. Hey, Mary, this letter's for you. It came in care of me. Let's have it. Oh, Jack, it's from my mother. You haven't opened it yet. How do you know? She makes her own postage stamps. Oh. Well, let's hear what the old comedian has to say. Read it, Mary. I think your mother's arrived. Yeah, go ahead. We haven't got all night. Okay. Plainfield, New Jersey, December 10th. My dear daughter, Mary, I haven't written you in some time as I've been busy preparing for the holidays. I received your letter and thanks very much for the check. It would have come in handy, but the landlord grabbed it on the first bounce. Well, huh? Right now, we're having a siege of zero weather here in Plainfield. It has been so cold the last two weeks, your father hasn't taken a bath since June. June, my, my. Last Monday was the coldest day of the year. It was so bad, we had to milk the cow with an ice pick. Boy, that is cold. Your uncle Julius. What is it, Mary? Your uncle Julius was showing off yesterday. Go on, Mary, read it. Your uncle Julius was showing off yesterday and went outdoors without his earmuffs. Yes. So today he's going out without his ears. Well, it serves him right. This caused a lot of trouble as now we have to glue his glasses on. I bet he looks funny at that, huh? Your cousin Otto was visiting us over the holidays and he still walked in his sleep. So for Christmas, we are giving him pajamas with a cane to match. That was thoughtful, I think. Tell Jack we bought him a beautiful Christmas present too. Well. We are sending it to COD as Jack always likes to know what things cost. Hope it's something cheap. Must close now, so Merry Christmas to you, Don, Phil, Kenny and Nick the Greek.  As usual. Well, that was all right, mama. Still up to par there. Oh, say, Jack. Yes, Don. It's getting rather late. Now, what kind of a player are we going to do tonight? Oh, we won't have time for that, Don. Besides, I've got to get all my Christmas shopping done. I've been putting it off and off. And today I'm going to do it. There goes $8. Now, I wish that was all. Don, announce Kenny's song and give him a good build up, will ya? Sure, I'll handle it.  I've got a lot of shopping to do too. Okay, come along, Mary. So long, fellows. Goodbye, everybody. Are you ready for your song, Kenny? All set. And now, ladies and gentlemen, Kenny Baker, the tenor of the Jell-O show, will sing Am I in Love from Mr. Dodd Takes the Air, accompanied by Phil Harris and his Jell-O Orchestra, which comes to you through the courtesy of Jell-O. Boy, what a break. Sing it, Kenny. I'm the stingle every time we meet My heart goes bitter pattern Then seems to miss a beat Writing and reciting poetry What can it be if you ask me By the victim all The thing that makes a tiger tender There must be something wrong with and a million That was Am I in Love sung by Kenny Baker. And now, ladies and gentlemen, we take you to one of Hollywood's biggest department stores Where we find... See this store is crowded. Everybody pushing and shoving. Here, give me your hand, Mary. That's going me. My name's Kelly. Oh, pardon me, lady. Mary, Mary, where are you? Well, take them off and stick to me. Now, let's see. What's first on my list? The four shirts, six handkerchiefs, three pair of socks, two hand towels. Oh, darn it. This is my laundry list. I sent some stuff out this morning. I thought you did your own. I was too busy this week. Anyway, I know what I want. Now, let me see. First, I want to get a little gold-plated key chain for Phil. Yeah, there's something he doesn't need. He does, too. He always carries a lot of keys in his pockets. That guy knows more doors. Yeah. Here's the counter right over here. Oh, yes. Pardon me, sir. I'd like to buy a chain. Dog watch or daisy? Look, and I want a key chain. You know for keys. How about a nice fountain pen? I don't want a fountain pen. I want a chain. How can you write a letter with a chain? Now, look, young man, I don't want to write a letter. Oh, you don't, eh? No.  What trouble? Now, wait a minute. Do you want to sell me a chain or not? I wouldn't sell you a chain if you were an Elks tooth. Oh, come on, Mary. Let's go. Why don't you take the fountain pen, Jack? Phil could lead the orchestra with it. All right. How much is that fountain pen? Four dollars. All right. Here you are. Wrap it up, and I haven't got all day. Okay. Hey, what's the idea of wrapping that pen in a blotter? It leaks a little. Four dollars for a leaky pen. I ought to have you fired. You can't do it. Why not? I don't work here. It's a fine store. Now, let's go to the toy department, Jack. I want to get some dolls for a couple of kids, I know. Yeah, I wonder where it is. Wait here, Mary. I'll ask the floor walker. Pardon me, sir. Could you direct me to the toy department? The toy department? Yes. You take the elevator. Where's the perfume counter, please? Two aisles to the right, madam. Straight ahead.  The toy department. Oh, yes. The toy department. You take the elevator. Excuse me, where do I get Christmas cards? The third floor, center aisle. Thank you. Now, let's see. You wanted the... The toy department, please. Oh, yes. Excuse me. You take the elevator. Oh, floor walker, have you seen my little boy? Madam, I've seen thousands of little boys. Well, that's not the one. Goodbye. Now, look, mister. Oh, pardon me. You wanted lampshades, didn't you? No, I wanted toys. The toy department. Oh, of course. Now, you take the elevator. I've taken it three times already. My goodness. Well, don't get huffy about it. I'm not getting huffy, and I don't want any back talk. Got a good mind to report you. What's your name? Woo-woo Smith. Oh. Hey, Jack, I found out where it is. It's on the fourth floor. Okay, Mary, let's take the elevator. Now, stay close to me. Oh, Jack, look. There's Kenny over by the lady's hosiery counter. Oh, he finally did it. Oh, yes. Look at him blushing. Let's sneak over, huh? Now, young man, for the tenth time, what do you want? Well, I... Oh, you laugh. Oh, come on now, please. I'm very busy. All right. I want a pair of stockings. What kind? For legs. Oh, hello, Kenny. Oh, hello, Jack. Boy, what I've just gone through. Well, come along with us. We're going up to the toy department. You can get the stockings later. Okay. Now, here's the elevator, Jack. Yeah. Going up? Watch your step, please. Let's get in quick. It's awfully crowded here. Hey, you stop pushing. I'm not pushing, lady. I'm just trying to get in the elevator. Well, you don't have to get rough about it. I'm just trying to get in the elevator. I'm just trying to get in the elevator. I'm just trying to get in the elevator. Well, I'm sorry. That's all you can expect from a guy that drives a Maxwell. I'll ignore that. Oh, Kenny. Kenny. Hey, Mary, we lost Kenny. We did not. I'm standing on him. Standing on him? Yeah. Going up? Hang on to your hats. Store eyes. Second floor. Flat-eye and sofa pillow. Submarines, aspen tablets, and horseradish. Going up? Say, boy, this elevator is awfully crowded, isn't it? You should see it on bank night. It sure is packed. Breathe in, Jack, so I can breathe out. Quiet. Stuff furniture. Stuff dials. Stuff celery. And stuff. Stuff. Next up. What is this? A train? I think so. I got a cinder in my eye. That's my heel. On the floor. Donning needles. Knitting needles. Hyperdermic needles. And needles California. Not the toys on this floor? Must be just the end of the line. Come on, Marion, Kenny. Going down? All aboard. Mary, get away from those tracks. Now, let's see. Where are the toys? There's a floor walker at Kim. Oh, yeah. Excuse me, sir. Where's the doll department? The doll department? Yes. You won't tell anybody, will you? No. You can trust me. The third aisle to the left. Center section. Look for the lady in black. Gee, everybody's nuts around here, I know. Can I help you, sir? Yes, ma'am. We're looking for something in dolls. Oh, we have a lovely assortment. Now, here's an original Shirley Temple doll. Gee, that's cute, Jack. Yeah? When you lay it down, here's what happens. Oh, ma, ma, ma. Oh, isn't that marvelous. Oh, she says the same thing every time. What do you want from a doll? The Gettysburg address? That isn't what I want, anyway. Look, Jack, here's a nice one. Poop eyes of sailor. That's Popeye's. If you're looking for a novelty, here's something brand new this year. An Andy Divine doll. An Andy Divine doll? Gee, Mary does look like Andy. Curly hair, big smile. Baggy pants and everything. Yeah. How does it work, Miss? Well, you wind it up like this and he talks. Listen. Hiya, buck, hiya, buck, hiya, buck, hiya, buck. Oh, isn't he cute, Mary? Hiya, buck, hiya, buck. Oh, it's all run down. Wind it up again, Mary. Woo-hoo-hoo, that tickles. Hey, Kenny, have you seen this doll at talk? It does. Hiya, buck, hiya, buck, hiya, buck, hiya, buck. Hello, Andy. Hiya, Kenny, hiya, Kenny, hiya, Kenny, hiya, Kenny. Well, that's the most marvelous thing I've ever seen. I'll take this one, Miss. Oh, Jack, look at Santa Claus over there sitting in that sleigh. She's all dressed up in red. Let's go over and see him.  Come on, we'll talk to him, huh?  Gee, I'm scared. Funny, I feel just like a kid again. Go ahead, talk to him, Jack. Oh, I don't want to. He might ask me if I've been a good boy. Oh, go on, Jack. All right. Hello, Sandy Claus. Hello, Stranger. Slipperman. Viath, I'm Chris Kringle now. Well, tell me, Slipp, how do you happen to be Sandy Claus? I don't know. I came in here to buy a suit and they sold me a red one. Well, Slipp, it is kind of loud there. I feel like a stoplight. Well, Mary, tell Santa Claus. What do you want for Christmas, eh? Can you put a mint coat in my stocking? Well, certainly. Boy, you are Santa Claus. So am I, and you know it. Kenny, tell Santa Claus what you want. Oh, I'm too big for that stuff. Ah, speak up, Kenny Boy. What would you like to find in your stockings Christmas money? Me. My feet are cold. Oh, you're too practical there. Hello, Mr. Benny. Hello, little boy. Look, look, Santa Claus is my father. He is? Sure.  Go home, Pinkie, if you're spoiling the hallucin'. So that's your little boy.  My, my, Jackie, she's overdoing it. Every night when I come home for supper, she feeds me reindeer. Reindeer for supper, how do you like it? Fine, but the horns give me indigestion. Well, we've got to be running along. Say goodbye to Sandy Claus. Goodbye, Sandy. Goodbye, kiddies. Hey, Slipp, when am I going to see you again? Well, I'll tell you, Jack. I'll be coming down your chimney when I come. I'll be coming down your chimney when I come. You'll be coming down my chimney. He'll be coming down your chimney. I'll be coming down when smoke gets in my eyes. He'll be coming down your chimney when he... I don't think you hear me calling when the snow is gently falling. He'll be coming down the chimney when he comes down. I would like a cup of tea, but I'll bend you on my knee. He'll be coming down the chimney. He'll be coming down the chimney. I'll be coming down the chimney when I come. Chimney, chimney, chimney, chimney, chimney, chimney. 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We're back for live. It's five o'clock on a given. What is it today? Tuesday? Here in the beginning of a new year, a new and hopefully better year, we can hope, can't we? And Karen Buzzard, she's a professor emeritus retired who's been in many schools and who has studied not only media, but art and media, which is a combination I really want to hear about, how those things intersect and how they affect us. Welcome to the show, Karen. Thank you. It's good to be here. So, you know, I made a list of keywords. I've never done this before, but I want to read you the keywords that I thought would be appropriate for a viewer who wanted to find this show if he searched on these keywords. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, popularity, Karen Buzzard, there's a good one. Communications, media, ratings, that means TV ratings, public opinion, reporting journalism politics, politicization, COVID, pandemic, Afghanistan, that relates to his popularity, build back better, the same thing. Voting rights, Joe Manchin, Kristen Sinema, Democratic Party, Republican Party Congress, and filibuster. That really defines the little world we're going to talk about, doesn't it? It does. So, we agreed that we were going to talk about how the media on this show, this brand new show called On the Media, how the media is affecting his decline in popularity. Can you talk about that? Yes, Ashley, there's been a couple of major studies that have come out recently, because I think Biden himself is worried about his decline in popularity, but both the Washington Post conducted a study where they used a computer analysis to review like 200,000 news articles, and these were news articles on TV, cable, newspapers, all the different media. And to conclude the question, was he getting more negative news coverage than Trump? And they concluded that he was during the same time period. But of course, one of the other factors that's important, I think, is the outlet that it's on. If you look at Fox News or one of the conservative outlets, his coverage is, according to what their research, 79% was negative of his coverage. And the key things they tend to focus on on these negative coverages is immigration and his executive orders. So there's a kind of theory out there right now, which is called Great Migration Theory. And Fox News covers anything that seems to fit into that theory. And that theory is great. The white people are being replaced by minorities, basically, that they're becoming less in the majority. So basically, any story that kind of feeds into that narrative of this kind of replacement theory is being picked up by Fox and presented as related to Biden. The second one is, I think it's interesting, is Pew itself, Pew Research Center did a study. And basically, they focused on a couple of issues that I think were interesting. One was the framing of the news. They found that Biden, most of the news was framed around his policies. So it was kind of policy oriented, whereas with Trump, it was focused around his personality or leadership skills. So they had different focuses or they do have different focuses. If you think about what Trump was up to last night or last during his first year as president, there was a lot of coverage of Russia, Russian kind of spies in the election. So and also a lot of coverage about the media, calling the media, fake news. He basically had eliminated a lot of, ended up eliminating a lot of the traditional news sources to focus on Fox News commentators, that kind of thing. So the framing of the news is very different, I think. And a second thing I think was important is who they use as sources, according to Pew. The sources for the more level news tends to be people from the administration, Biden experts, such as journalists and academics, that kind of thing. Whereas under the conservative news, the experts tend to be other commentators. So I think both of those kind of have an impact on what we're seeing as negative coverage of Biden right now. Let me throw some thoughts at you. Seems to me, kind of you before the show began, that during the lingual administration here in Hawaii, she had two terms. She, I guess she was popular enough to win the second term, but she was not popular among the Democratic Party because she was Republican and proud of it. It was a different time and a different Republican Party, by the way. In any event, they criticized her in the press mercilessly for the eight years that she served, in my opinion. Now she's gone and Neil Abercrombie was elected governor, and the press attacked him in the same way they had attacked her. It was kind of a culture of attack. And let's sell some raw meat on this. Let's excite and titillate our readers and viewers to always keep them interested about how this governor doing a bad job. And they just kept on going and they criticized Abercrombie in the same way, even though he was a Democrat and arguably closer to the people. That may be a debatable point. In any event, I suggest to you, Karen, that what happened here in Trump was the press, however they operate, and we should talk about that, was criticizing Trump. And now Trump is gone. He's off the air for most purposes. And we have Biden instead. And the press needs something to excite and titillate their viewers and readers and the public. So they're always looking for something to criticize the president about. It's the same kind of mentality, even though Biden is a decent, honest, honorable, hardworking president, as opposed to Trump, who was none of those things. Do you agree? Yes, to a certain extent. But again, I think it goes back to the type of media outlet, whether it's conservative or liberal or neutral somewhere in between. I do have noticed one of the news sources I watch, PBS News, that they've made much more effort to critique, I guess, the interviewees that they get this after Trump, because they were letting a lot of Trump people come on the air, and they didn't question them or challenge them at all. But I see they've stopped that and they really push back if they feel like they're saying something that's not true or is questionable, even including senators and so forth that come on or Congress people who are obviously feeding into the big lie or something like that, they'll challenge them. So I think some of that's true. There is a more of an attack mode with the media as a result of the Trump presidency, but also I think there's more pushback as well. Yeah, I had the same observation about PBS and the news hour, and it really hasn't been as interesting to me because there was a time, and maybe that's still happening to some extent, where they were making an effort to be, quote, balanced, end quote, balanced. Well, if you have one character who is trying hard to be decent and honest and doing the right thing, and another who is a psychopath with serious pathological problems, you're going to give them equal time, you're going to balance. If one tells the truth generally, and the other one generally lies, balance doesn't sound like it's appropriate. What do you think? I agree with you. I think that they're doing well to do this pushback because it's clear that if you have somebody on that's saying lies, basically, for example, that the election was stolen or something like that, then I think you have to challenge it. And I think for the first year of the Trump presidency, the media was so overwhelmed. They were used to this objectivity where they had two sides and they were impartial. They didn't handle it very well. They didn't push back at all during Trump's presidency. They let them get away with it. So I think there's been some learning, I guess, with the press. Yeah, digging inside the press for a moment. I remember here in Hawaii, we had a scandal, if you will, with the Kamehameha schools back in the 90s. And there was an event that took place at the Pacific Club, it was. And some people spoke about it. And I was sitting next to a reporter for, let's say, one of the dailies. Actually, there was only one dailie. No, there were two dailies at the time, too. So I'm not telling you which one it was. In any event, this reporter was very young. This reporter was, like, uninitiated. And she was writing notes and everything about what happened. And I was sitting a few feet away and she made her story and I read the story the next day. And it was nothing like what happened. And I said to myself, I've always assumed that when they make the notes and they sit there and listen and write it out so carefully and use all their brain cells to report to us about what happened, this was an extraordinary experience to see what happened and then see the story and find that it didn't reflect what happened. And so I began to take another look at the press. I'm saying it's only flesh and blood. It's only people. And sometimes they're really uninitiated. They don't know what's going on. They're young. They may not have a lot of training. They may not have the kind of acuity that you need to actually see things and interpret and report on things. And so when the decision is made in a given newsroom about what the priorities are, what's important and what's not important and what story do we do and how do we look at it, I always think of that day and that incident and I'm really not sure that I'm getting the right skinny. Am I right about this? I think yes. I think learning to kind of see what you're writing about because if you're not informed on the topic or even how to write a story, then it does, you know, and also your worldview. Maybe you see it, you know, as we're seeing now with the two different worldviews, one worldview is completely different than the other worldviews, apparently. So yes, I think that's true. Part of, I think journalism is also just sourcing your materials that you have, you're sure that you have correctly, you know, made the right assumptions. Yeah. Well, I'm worried about it because it certainly, it sounds different, feels different than Walter Cronkite used to feel for me. I just generally believed him. He was the news. And by the way, in those days, during the news program that you watched, there were no commercials. It was just the news. The commercials were at other times on the dial. And so now what we have is the news and they can tell you that the skies are falling, and then you have a soap commercial. And you say to yourself, wait a minute, they're telling me that this soap is good, but the sky is falling. What's the priority there? What do I take away, you know, in my mind? How do I process all this with the soap and the sky is falling?  And the notion of their journalism seems to be in large part, especially on the conservative side, out the window. The idea is, we are going to keep you excited. We are going to engage with our base, with Trump's base. And we don't care if it's true or not. Alternate facts are just fine with us because it sells the soap. It all seems like a mess, doesn't it? It does. I think one of the major issues was letting Rupert Murdoch into the country, you know, he's Australian, letting him have the citizenship to own a media outlet in the US. I think Fox News is really a huge issue. I know myself growing up in Missouri in the Midwest, every television in Missouri seems like they're watching Fox News all day. And I think I wouldn't even call it a news outlet, really, if you go by traditional ideas of what news is because it's all basically opinion and distorted opinion at that. Well, we have one host on Think Tech who has a firm belief and you can hear him anytime because he's on a couple of times a week. And what he says is it's all opinion now, or worse than that, it's fact and opinion all mixed up. And they don't tell you when they're doing fact and when they're doing opinion. They don't check the facts. As a matter of fact, sometimes the press may not say this, the press lies, unlike on Fox. It lies. They'll say one thing privately for you, vis-à-vis the insurrection and their communications with Trump during that day, January 6th, a year ago. And then they'll report something completely different as if, again, they were two realities. So you have a serious problem about this between fact and opinion and lies. And then, of course, there's the question of the First Amendment. Can you stop them? Can you fix this up? I mean, Twitter knows what to do. They took Marjorie Taylor Green off. She's disqualified, although she still has an account as a Congressperson. But what I'm saying is, how can you fix a situation where the press has devolved into rampant opinion or worse? We know, I think a key issue is to revive the fairness doctrine, which, if you recall, Ronald Reagan did away with it. At the time, there was a lot of controversy and there was press that were going to make it into a law, which they never did. But the fairness doctrine said you have to present equal time to both sides. You can't be on the air and just be a propaganda network as Fox is, I think. But if there was a way to revive the fairness doctrine, I think that would go a long way toward making sure at least both sides were presented. Well, let me ask you a hard question, which I've been thinking about, and this young fellow I mentioned has been thinking about. He says the only way that we can fix this is by government intervention. Somehow, the federal communications, some federal agency would actually vet what is being said somehow. I don't know how you would do that, but I'm wondering what you're thinking. The fairness doctrine was from the FCC. It was a rule that they all had to follow, all the news at that time. So it would be a federal intervention. Were they to reinstate it or whether they could get it passed? Well, they do have a new kind of more liberal FCC chair, and they're much more interested in kind of taking these issues on. The previous chair was in the pocket of Trump, so he was pretty lax about doing anything about that. Well, all this is political, I guess, because on the one hand you have the conservative channel or channels, and don't forget Sinclair radio with 300 radio stations. I'm sure they play in Missouri too, right? They do, yes. All day long. Every retail establishment will have Fox or Sinclair or both. Anyway, so you have this division, this political division, and it's been exacerbated to an enormous degree during Trump's years. And part of that, see if you agree with me, part of that is because the press is sending these disparate messages, and some of it is not true, but people believe it. And it's all kind of hateful, really. And so if you wanted to fix that, you would have to fix the press, in my opinion.  So you have to fix that if you're going to fix the breakdown of our society. Yeah, absolutely. I think it's, as you say, devolved considerably because in the air before, when the fairness doctrine was in effect, everything was fact-checked. You couldn't go in the air unless you presented allowed both sides of the issue. You would consider both sides of the issue. And I think cable news also has this 24-hour news cycle has had a lot to do with the devolution of the news where they have evolved almost a series of commentators as well who have to keep something on the air. So they resort to commentary so much of the time. What you say reminds me so much of Jerry Seinfeld. In one of his episodes, he had this remarkable and very wise statement. He said, you know, it's so interesting. It's amazing, is it not, that there's just enough news to fill up the newspaper? Well, it's an interesting point because, you know, you have to think about of all the things going on, what gets covered. And usually there are like five main stories every day. You know, you get the vaccine coverage, you get the stories about the attempt to pass legislation, you know, build back better. There are certain news stories that seem like they, they're the five top stories that are covered all the time. And you think, well, what about other news stories? So there is a sort of emphasis, I think, on certain stories for some reason. Well, I think they're trying to keep people's attention. Right. And they can't keep talking about the same story, even if it's really a critical story, because they got to feed, they got to feed the beast. They got to come up with something new on every day. They have to feed the beast. Right. So, you know, right now, if it, you know, we have COVID, I guess, kind of feeding the beast right now, the COVID stories. Yeah. So this is, this is troubling because I don't, I don't feel that there's an orderly rotation of stories. In other words, so, so we were talking about build back better. And then we stopped talking about build back better. And we, we were talking about voting rights. And then we stopped talking about that. But we have to feed the beast. So we talk about other things and we focus on the other things. And what happened to build back better? Hey, what happened to climate change? That, you know, which is the biggest story in our lifetime, really. Absolutely. So, I mean, who's making these decisions? Is it Rupert Murdoch? Yeah. I do think on the Fox News channel that he has a huge influence on what's covered, you know, I think, you know, as they say that their focus is completely different than what's on the liberal news channels. And they're focusing much more 78% is negative on Biden. So they're trying to feed the beast by covering every negative angle on what's going on. As they say, they're trying to feed into this idea that white people are being replaced. So a lot of their focus is on finding stories that feed that emphasis. Well, you know, that's that's a big problem, not only for Biden, but for any legitimate politician. If the press is going to let them have it on every story and then linger around like on Afghanistan and, you know, sort of write him off on that. Oh, that was bad, terrible, bad. The result is that his reputation will be is being tarnished on a regular basis. I think that's true. Unfortunately, you know, to a certain extent, it does stick.  So in your mind, Sonic, Karen, what would you do if I made you the queen of the universe? And forget the First Amendment for a moment. And if I ask you, you know, how do we how do we go back to, you know, the the old time reporters, the old time way of reporting the old time system of informing the government in a fair-minded, balanced way, or at least mostly fair-minded, balanced way without allowing propaganda in the door. How do we do that? Because I don't think it's limited to the U.S. It's all around the world.  I don't know about you, but I get 500 emails every day, and my thumb is raw from deleting them, but to keep coming. And so, you know, I have to, I wish I could find a little cocoon, like a Walden pond, where I would only allow legitimate news, and I would sit there and think about it, but it's hard to do that. How would you, as the queen, fix this? Well, I think the first thing I would do is get the FCC to function and to actually reinstate some of the rules that existed back when there was more fair journalism. I mean, I think to a certain extent both sides, I mean, if you look at MSNBC, you could say that some of their coverage is, you know, to one extreme versus Fox News, although I have to say that I don't think that at least they try to be truthful in their coverage, and you can fact check them, whereas Fox News, I don't think makes any pretense about it, but I think the fairness doctrine, but I think there's another issue is just the problem with a lot of the local media has shut down due to economic changes with the internet. So they don't have a business model right now, like a lot of the small town newspapers have shut down. We were in an era of moderation, so a lot of the small town kind of functions that newspapers serve are no longer there, no checks and balances on local politicians, that kind of thing which they provided. So I think it's a larger issue of the economics of the media and what's going to be done in an era where the funding model for media like advertising, for example, has changed dramatically. It has, and they don't have the same leverage with those soap commercials as the national media who are selling you as much soap as they're giving you news. For every five minutes of news, you get five minutes of soap. Right, and even in the newspapers, you used to be able to put ads in, want ads, that kind of thing, advertisements, but now people have craze lists, or they can put things online, marketplace, whatever. So a lot of their former models of kind of the business models, they haven't really revamped yet, and unfortunately, like as you mentioned with Sinclair, they've been buying up all the local radio stations and television stations, so and they're extremely conservative, kind of a Fox news type group. So you have the airwaves being flooded by them, not to mention the shock jocks, remember like Rush Lumbo and whatnot, filling the air. So I think it's a bigger issue, but I think I would start with the FCC. Well, we should explore it. You should explore it. You want to just take one last moment and tell us what your plan for on the media going forward. I think it's one of the most important threads that we can possibly do here on Sinctech to examine this, and it's not just static, it's changing all the time. Well, I think my plan really would be to cover different topics, because I think what people don't realize it's not offered, they probably realize if you think about it, but maybe we don't stop and think about it, is that you're getting a spin on whatever is presented. Less of a spin, I think on traditional media that have actual journalists, as opposed to commentators, but so I think on the media with my goal would be to focus to kind of analyze what you're getting and the spin as well. Yeah, okay. I can hardly wait to see how this goes, because I consider it very important and the media treats itself sometimes as a sacred cow doesn't want to talk about how sausage is made. But the fact is that we as citizen journalists, you're a professional, but we think tech organized around citizen journalism, we really care to look at other media and how they do, not only for television, not only social media, not only the radio, but also the print press, what's left of it. That's right. That's right. What's going to happen to print? It's a good question. Yeah. Well, thank you, Karen. I look forward to a whole series of shows from you and your friends and associates in the media here and on the mainland and I stand ready to learn things I never learned before. Thank you so much, Karen. Thank you, Jay. I appreciate you're hosting this and it's a pleasure to be here. Aloha. Take care. Stay safe.


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and now stay tuned for the program that is rated tops in popularity for a longer period of time than any other west coast program in radio history the signal oil program the whistler signal the famous go farther gasoline invite you to sit back and enjoy another strange story by the whistler for extra driving pleasure the signal to look for is the yellow and black circle sign that identifies signal service stations from canada to mexico and for sunday evening listening pleasure the signal to listen for is this whistle that identifies the signal oil program the whistler i am the whistler and i know many things for i walk by night i know many strange tales hidden in the hearts of men and women who have stepped into the shadows yes i know the nameless terrors of which they dare not speak and now for the signal oil company the whistler's strange story burden of guilt it's a big comfortable room the library and the ramirez mansion in the hills beyond san diego everything about it from its paneled walls to the high beam ceiling and back again to the peg oak floors reflects permanence solid security and this early afternoon with a steady winter rain falling against its windows the ramirez library offers warmth and welcome to the three people seated before its great fireplace monwell ramirez one of the world's wealthiest men his wife helen and his secretary warren coats on the surface it's an all together pleasant scene their talk is concerned itself chiefly with trips because each of them plans one but for one of these three the trip is more than just a trip it's actually a well planned long anticipated escape monwell ramirez rises from his lounge chair goes to the near window and studies the rain for a long moment and then facing his wife and secretary again he speaks warren this rain you think it will cancel your flight not according to the airport they say it's just a local storm we should be clear but soon after the takeoff eh well that is good i guess you know i still cannot convince myself that you are actually leaving me i've known for weeks now but now that the day is at hand i cannot believe it i don't think i quite believe it myself senora mirrors but this ticket in my pocket says it's true i'll miss you sir and senora thank you my boy we should miss you too hey helen of course we will everyone always says it at a time like this but it really won't be the same without you oh thank you it's been a wonderful association these past five years i still wonder if i've made the right decision one can never be sure my boy but you have a good mind you say yourself this decision was not made in haste so you take your chances everyone takes chances at one time or another warren and always you learn something well i'm certainly willing to learn but all this talk of my trip how about you too senora mirrors you still taking off for the spout prize zone next week eh yes if the weather is right before long we should be soaking up the sun on the beach at darbaro and i'll be trying to explain the gabrielle and dana why you are not there well the explanations in good hands i'm sure now i've got to go still got some packing to do you know eh well if you must you know best monwell the package remember oh yes yes of course my dear here warren for you a small token of my appreciation senora i'm very grateful uh so am i warren uh you you run along now we are both embarrassed uh you were you opened it later yes senora senora i'll never forget you you've given me so much i'll never never forget no you'll never forget manuel remiris will you warren you played your farewell scene very well and now you're in your car opening the small token of remiris appreciation it's a watch handsome expensive and engraved to warren a faithful friend and assistant m remiris but unknowingly he's given you more than that hasn't he warren slowly systematically through those years he's also given you fifty thousand dollars that he doesn't know about does he and he won't know it ever you've manipulated things nicely perfectly he's never questioned your integrity has always written checks or advanced cash without question later in your apartment you packed the few remaining items you'll need the fifty thousand dollars you've had changed into large bills are now resting in a large manila envelope in your coat pocket and then as you look around for a last minute check of the apartment senora remiris hello again mr coats may i come in of course yes do come in thank you you were just leaving oh yes yes i was good then i've caught you just in time is something wrong senora nothing that can't be fixed mr coats and you're pretty good at fixing things aren't you mr coats i don't believe i understand you asked me if something is wrong suppose i say that something is fifty thousand dollars wrong would you understand that no frankly i wouldn't i think you would mr coats i think you do and you needn't look at your shiny new watch for the time you're not going anywhere i suppose you tell me what this is all about senora remiris i'd be glad to and from now on let's make it helen and warren we're about to know each other very well warren all right helen if you say so you know i've known about your clever little manipulations for some time now warren the stocks you were supposed to buy and didn't the checks you wrote when monwell had already given you the cash shall i go on warren you can't prove any of this you know yes i can if i have to but i don't think i'll have to you see i don't care what you've done warren you've sold it away a tidy little fifty thousand or so and that's just buying with me but then what do you what do i want i want what you're going to have one escape you want to leave manuel looked like a very good thing when i married him one of the richest men in the world fat bald and tired but it was all going to be worth it because he was rich well he's still rich and i haven't got a dime but someday someday i'll inherit it he's a very healthy man monwell is 55 and has sound as all his dollars no warren i can't wait to inherit it millions i'll settle for thousands now and escape and you're going to get those thousands for me warren i am look helen you've got the wrong boy i'm leaving in less than an hour i don't think you are you have no choice for me i can stop you from leaving and you know it and besides you could use another fifty thousand couldn't you what is it you want me to do there's two hundred thousand dollars in cash in the library wall safe you know the combination just walk in and take it it's about that simple tonight at ten manuel will be in bed the servants will be in their quarters in the other wing probably asleep i'll give you the key to the terrace door just off the library it won't take you five minutes and it's worth fifty thousand dollars to you and if i don't i've already looked up the district to turn his phone number see where will you be all this time i'll meet you here right after you get the money well i guess you said it when you said i didn't have much choice okay you've got yourself a deal i'd better have one remember that you stand at the window until you see your car drive away then quickly you check your watch your plane leaves in thirty five minutes you can still make it one by ten o'clock tonight you'll be at least a thousand miles from san diego out of anybody's reach ellen will have to get her freedom without you you can let your luggage go down to the entrance on the side street and hail a cab and soon you're a part of san diego's late afternoon traffic enroute to linburg field you enter the terminal building the envelope containing the fifty thousand safely tucked away in your inside coat pocket american airlines flight 90 for mexico city now boarding an american airlines concourse date 12 you walk over to the news stand pick up the evening paper and look over the headlines then as you put it in your pocket you glance toward the telephone booth calling the district attorney for you shall i complete the call that won't be necessary funny thing warren i didn't trust you at all but i will now because i'm staying with you all evening until ten o'clock tonight's twenty dollar signal gasoline book goes to miss meredith manchester of hollywood california for this limerick my 38 car is a riot it looks sad and i won't deny it but the way that old fossil performs is colossal on a signal go farther gas diet signal signal signal gasoline your car will go far with no further gasoline a smart young lady that driver in tonight's limerick she knows what more and more drivers discover when they switch to signal that mileage and performance are like birds of a feather they go together so if you're looking for quick cold weather starting if you're looking for flashing pickup if you're looking for smooth quiet power just remember you'll find them all when you fill up with signal the famous go farther gasoline you're trapped aren't you warren helen remiris has blocked your escape and you know she won't hesitate to tell the police that you've embezzled fifty thousand dollars from manuel remiris she'll be able to prove it too even though her husband suspects nothing yes she'll tell them unless you help her carry out her little plan rob her husband safe and help pave the way for her escape you have no choice but to do what she says and so you follow her back out to a car and drive into town the two of you have dinner at the quiet restaurant and go over your plans carefully then finally you're driving into the storm up the narrow twisting road leading to the remiris estate slow down will you warren we've plenty of time i want to get this over with so do i look i know this road i've been on it often enough warren what lights up ahead through the trees it's a car parked along the road i don't know wait a minute it's the one from the telephone company it was there when i drove by this afternoon storm must have blown the lines down well at least the phones at the house won't be working if anything goes wrong nothing will go wrong warren all right all right you drive on saying little for the next few miles finally you turn off the headlights and bring helen's car to a stop before the gates of the remiris estate you know what to do i'll drive the car off the road park under the trees and wait for you helen you're sure everything is fixed of course i'm sure what about the caretaker Pablo will be in his cottage you don't expect him to be roaming around the grounds on a night like this do you i want to be sure everything's all right that's all it is now hurry you watch helen's car slip quietly down the road and then turning you lower your head in the face of the driving ring enter a small gate and hurry up to the house as you reach the terrace you see the entire house is in darkness you move quickly to the terrace door leading to a library unlocked with helen's key then you step inside for a moment you wait in the darkness of the library listening hearing the fury of the storm outside then you make your way across the room and as you do you reach down quickly pick up the music box you knocked over you stand rooted at the spot unable to move hardly daring to breathe waiting listening and finally certain that no one has heard you you move cautiously across for the wall safe use the combination you know so well and open the safe it's empty there's nothing in the safe except a pistol a 38 automatic and then as you reach for it who is there you stiffen at the voice the beam of light cuts through the darkness it's Ramirez he's discovered you you won't find any money there Warren I took it to the bank is afternoon don't move or I will shoot your hand closes over the gun inside the safe Warren and you will aim at the figure behind the flashlight fire Ramirez cries out the flashlight drops to the floor he's hit one in the dim light coming from the hall you see him sprawled out in the doorway and you feel sure that he's dead a wave of panic sweeps over you rush from the room out to the terrace then down the path wondering if the old caretaker has heard the shots and then as you race around the hedge and start across the lawn in the darkness you run into a man your fist crashes into his face and he staggers back falls against the hedge as you sprint across the lawn you're positive it was Pablo the caretaker and you wonder if you recognize you you tell yourself it was too dark and you head for the trees where Helen is waiting with a car and running and stumbling you make your way through the trees to the road suddenly Helen turns on the headlights and you run toward them Warren what's happened I heard the shots let's get out of here what's happened Warren I thought you said Ramirez would be asleep walked in on me did he recognize you yes not that it makes any difference now I ran into Pablo what do you mean Warren about Manuel you didn't you expected me to stick around let Ramirez turn me over to the police come on get this car going no matter what this thing Warren the money I wasn't any money in that safe no money don't look so surprised you probably knew all the time there wouldn't be anything in there except the gun no that's not true you had it figured like this all along Ramirez would show and I'd have to shoot no get this car going Warren you've got to believe me I the telephone truck it's stopping the driver he's getting out and he's coming this way quickly get in the back seat get rid of him Helen getting in trouble lady why yes a little I don't know what's wrong I can't seem to get it started quite away from the main road you get lost no I live over there oh there it is thank goodness yeah hey you better have a garage check it lady the wiring may be bad well yes I will thank you oh uh just a minute yeah uh you're with the phone company aren't you that's right and I know what you're going to ask we'll have the lines fixed service restored within an hour or two I see thank you nine nine all right Warren he's gone let's get out of here you heard about the phone service yes that's a break Pablo won't be able to call the police for an hour at least that'll give me a head start I'll drive you back into town you've got to do more than that Helen you've got me into this mess and you're gonna get me out what can I do look you don't expect to dump me back in town pat me on the head and let it go at that do you Warren wait what's the matter look up there her car is coming down from the house it's Pablo he's going for the police Helen let's get going drop me off at the gate what are you going to do stop him from going to the police you keep going after you drop me off park down the road away I'll take care of Pablo at the gates of the estate you jump from the car wait in the darkness for the car coming down the road from the house you watch Pablo as he steps out of the car and hurries forward to open the gates and then as the gate swing wide you step out of the shadows and bring the pistol butt down on its head you grab him as he starts to fall and drag him off the driveway into the brush then quickly you slip in behind the wheel of the big black convertible Pablo was driving and drive out the gates down the road to where Helen is waiting in her car what did you do with you sleeping it off look I'm taking this car Pablo was driving Helen I'm heading for the border border I can't take any chances Pablo might have recognized me in the yard when I ran into him if he did I want a nice head start once I'm over that border they'll never find me I know my way around Mexico I've been on enough hunting trips but but if Pablo didn't recognize you then I can stop running come back that's where you're going to help me Helen oh right now I want you to go up to the house no no I can't my well dead I you've got to Pablo probably won't come to for a while I want you to be there when he does find out if he recognized me but Warren I'll call you from the border by the time I get there you'll know if Pablo spotted me if I have to keep on running or if I'm in the clear yes you're going to play it safe aren't you on once you're at the border and you phone Helen you'll know what to do and it all depends on Pablo if he recognized you or not soon you're on the highway racing south at the wheel of the Ramirez convertible you took from Pablo as the car rolls along the water soaked road the storm increases in intensity but not once do you slacken your speed until suddenly a half a dozen red lights loom up ahead stretched across the highway a roadblock Warren your foot slams down on the brake the big car swerves and twists wildly you finally managed to bring it under control just a few feet from the barrier and you sit frozen at the wheel staring through the spattered windshield and you watch the man in the raincoat approach hey hey what are you trying to do buddy kill yourself what's wrong why the way you came barreling down the highway hey you must be in an awful hurry I am what's the roadblock for bridge washed out up ahead what right you can't get through what I've got to I've got to get through look buddy I said the bridge is washed out but I can't turn back you don't have to what you can take a detour over there it's only a couple of miles just follow the signs you breathe a sigh of relief wheel the car around and start down the narrow dirt road it's a delay isn't it one but not enough to really matter so when you're back on the main highway again racing through the night and then finally you site the border up ahead you're going to make it work now there'll only be the routine check by the guards but you're not worried about them are you or Helen you know she's so deeply involved in the shooting of her own husband that she won't dare go to the police and you're not greatly concerned about Pablo either are you you're sure he didn't recognize you and once across the border it'll be a simple matter for you to lose yourself in Mexico and the authorities will never find you evening inspector good evening senior how things would be in but better without the rain I yeah what a night oh by the way they're a phone handy you see if you will pull over to the side there you will find a telephone in the office thanks inspector I just want to make sure everything all right did you know that in 1925 the average car was scrapped when it was only six and a half years old and had gone less than 26,000 miles whereas today the average car lasts over 12 years and is driven over 100,000 miles much of the credit for this longer motor life goes to automotive engineers for superior construction but much credit also goes to oil engineers for the superior protection your motor gets from such vastly improved oil as signal premium the compounded motor oil that does so much more than just lubricate you see because it's 100% pure paraffin base is fortified with scientific compounds signal premium not only keeps 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My relatives, my son-in-law's name is Little Eagle, and I come from Fort Peck, Montana, reside in Frazier, on my red bottom, a son-in-law out of one of the 33 bands. I've been in education now for 15 years, instructing the NAS classes in Frazier High School, K-12. We've recently implemented our method into K-8, K-6 mainly. So basically what we're doing is working on different approaches and, you know, to kind of get you up to where we need to be or catch you up to speed. I worked with the University of Montana for a little while, the Native Children's Trauma Center. And before I stepped away from the trauma center, I was taking a look at all the Western approaches for trauma in our children. And nothing seemed to work. They had zero impact. It was minimal. Let's just put it that way, very, very minimal. But the dollars that were coming in, and I think it's like that in every program, you know, not too sure, but a lot of our programs have zero, zero success in whether it's Western education, whether it's Western therapeutic approaches, it just has minimal, minimal impact on our people. And so what I did was I started looking at, you know, what we needed at home, what we needed, what did our kids need, what do we need at home, and who better to develop and create than us, for us, by us, no matter who you are, Cree, Crow, Senate, but it don't matter. And we have the means and we have the makings to do that as tribes all over, but we tend to wait for other people to develop for us. That's even our language, you know, our curriculums to our dictionaries to everything. If you don't have that degree or that stamp of that systematic education, then they really don't take you seriously. So what I did was start tracking and logging our own data on behavior, on competency of running mainly more qualitative data rather than quantitative data. Quantitive data has more numbers and stuff and you can really manipulate those things. So what we do is we do a more of a qualitative run where we film, do a pre-post type of test with our clientele, our students. For example, we might give, you know, we have around 400 hand signs logged in, planes, Native American hand signs, and under that auspice alone, there's a lot of variables in it. And it's called a total physical response is one of the better methods to construct with early childhood development to kindergarten on up preschool head starts in the method is sound, very, very sound. Being able to prove that on the other hand, you know, on the westerners eyes is something different, you know, where they want you to learn the ABCs and 123s. I believe in my heart that our children learn by what their mothers and fathers or grandmother, whoever it is, it's bringing them up, give them whether it's English or Cree or Cinnabon or whatever, and to maybe enhance their method, they might could learn a little bit of hand signs. It's very, very effective, very, very effective. And again, there's a lot of methodologies out there and I encourage anybody who's running a place based or appear, I believe it's called land based methodologies, excuse me, is one of the better ways to instruct. And it's the experiential component of education that creates a memory. And if we're neurologically thinking about very competent about things, the only thing that retains a memory is an experience. Repetitious tests on paper doesn't seem to do so well, as, for example, you know, you want to learn how to jump out of an airplane and you read a body and you take the test about it. Now, I take you out to go jump out of the airplane. What happens, that experience is going to stay with you forever, because you're feeling all these different emotions. It's trigger in a memory. It's doing something different that you never really, really ever done.  I know, you know, I feel it. I remember it and it stores it for you. So how do we get our culture and language back in and there's a sense of urgency for us back home. My dad was the chief of the Cinnaboy and he passed over a couple of years back. And so those are some pretty big shoes for me and my brothers to fill. He teaches and instructs at the university level and I'm down with the students and the young ones and family and community and same goes for him. We run a eight week program. We started about six, seven years ago. And just working through methodologies and strategies, you know, trying things that didn't work, trying, you know, and just kind of failing our way to that success where we need to be. There's living a lot of people trying a lot of different things, you know, different orthographies we tried. And everybody's different. Everybody is different. So there is no one way that's going to save the language. There is no one thing that's going to save the language. We have the language archived. We have stories archived. We have, you know, great dictionaries. We have a lot of resources that have already been made and built and the need out there for any more materials, maybe, I don't know if that's an urgency right now, but for us back home, we have 4,000 enrolled Cinnaboy and Fort Peck total of around 10,000 enrolled tribal members. Out of them 4,000, we might have 10 speakers fluent left. That's there's a need and a sense of urgency to start doing things differently and maybe bringing the world indigenous language standards that are issued around the world and in our universities and bringing that down to start with children and babies, even in daycares. We work a lot. About three years ago, we brought a lady in by the name of Kukakalau and she said, stay the road boys and keep doing what you're doing. She's our four more leading woman who has that degree, that doctorate degree out of Hawaii. You know, she's built 21 different schools. She's did it all. She's ran 12 years of immersion for schools in Hawaii and she just blows it out of the water every time. She's called around the world. You know what I mean? And so we brought her in and we started talking about different things like how to, I guess, some, maybe approach this without making all the mistakes that maybe she went through. You know what I mean? And so she kind of gave us that guidance that we needed and she was always telling us to look for sustainability and anything that we do. So it's like, you know, we're trying to figure that portion out. It's tough whether you guys get ballet grants or we get the A&A grants, you know, when the grant ends, usually the project ends, you know what I mean? How do you find that sustainability in your community? How do you rouse the troops? How do you get people motivated to want to learn your language? So then I kind of took it one step further and I started this project. So kind of get us to where we need to be right now. It's called the ENET project, E-N-I-T. Plains Native Americans, youth and kids down there are all talking about like, isn't it, is the word. So if they want you to agree with them, they'll say in it, Mr. White or you know, next year, you know, I was, I seen you at the game and the last night in it, you know, so they're saying, huh, or you know, they want you to agree with them. That's kind of the word all over Indian country. So we took that as an acronym and it stands for Empowering Native Indigenous Tribes. And underneath that is the idea and the concept and what I built is called cognitive experiential immersion. And that's what I run and everything across the board. That idea, that thing that's common within it all, whether it's education or trauma or your community or your tribe, it does not matter. You can implement it into pretty much anything you want to do and build it your way off of the concept can be built your way. It doesn't have to be built like this or do what like they say in a program. It's a program guideline that you can build for your community and your tribe, your school or whatever. And you build that up from the ground up by yourself on your own for your people. Because the time for us in waiting is we can't wait. There's a sense of urgency, we can't wait any longer. So that's kind of where we're at with it. But, you know, to make a long story short, we've come a long way. We do try to, you know, we do quite a bit in sharing, I guess, not only the concept, but a couple of different approaches. And if you're talking about education alone, education is big, it's huge. Don't get me wrong. Do not get me wrong. But we have not yet evolved to that western hierarchy and peeked out with our culture. We have tribal colleges, we have tribal junior colleges, we have a couple of different things, but we are not competitive. We are not the dominant society here. And I believe that has to start with your people. It has to start at home, it has to start, you know, identifying truly with who you are. And I try to stay fact based, evidence based, I'm not pulling any punches here. So if we're talking about somatic, that's another thing that folks can look up is the study of sound. And do the study, do actually go and do it, go find an alder, get some singers, maybe say a prayer into it, but it's a science experiment. You can do it with kids, you can do it with teachers, trainees, but do the experiment and find out for yourself. And we worked with NASA on that about eight years ago. And they were intrigued that the designs and the things that came out that were emitted by somatics was infinite coming out of our mouth, not with a machine, not with a, you know, the resonator coming out of us with the song and the prayer and the language was creating these infinite designs within this liquid, infinite designs, and they could not believe it. Now, if that's inside of us, this infinite design of going forever outward or going forever inward, that means we're infinite beings where we have infinite knowledge and infinite potential. But are we waking that up? Are we actually utilizing it? Are we putting evidence based fact based evidence alongside of who we are, what we are and how we do it to gap the bridge, so to speak, to the 21st century for the future and the sake of our people? We are not. And I believe that's one of the things we really, really need to do as First Nations people all over is if we want them to take us seriously, for example, the doctors out there get paid hundreds and thousands of dollars, hundreds and thousands of dollars, creating, helping, fixing people, whatever, even at the hospital. What about our medicine men? What about our elders? What about the knowledge that they have? They have no degrees. They have nothing on there. What do we pay them?  They have is you can't put a number on it. So in going forth, I think with our efforts, education is good. Don't get me wrong. But until we start really building it ourselves, our own science books, our own history, local history, whatever, place-based, land-based stuff is kind of kind of going to keep spinning our wheels. And that Western Indo-European way of thinking and thought is ruling us and to step out of that or to integrate that science or whatever in our way and do it our way, I think, is going to empower us better. Hence, the end of empowering Native Indigenous tribes. So that's kind of where this all came from. Basically, travel around, give it to whoever, talk about it. And again, staying with evidence-based projects with the data, the research that's backed up. I've got a non-profit right now. It's called Express to Speak, good friend of mine. Heads that up him and a couple attorneys out of Missoula. And they're running the concept with at-risk youth that are locked up that are, I mean, and they're blowing it out of the water. And they got a research team, Washington State, or well, I forget what university is back in the month, but they're doing the research with and unbelievable stuff happening. But instead of giving a child the freedom to think, make their own decisions, free thought, self-help, self-teaching, we give them a book and say, read that and take the test. There's a lot of information maybe that is not bad information, but there's a lot of information your brain really don't need either. And we need to start building our youth up the way we want to build some leaders, some wicked awesome leaders in our communities. We just haven't been able to do that. And I think that's the key. The future is investing in them. But are we actually doing that as First Nations people? So for me, this is a lot more than just a program. Or like I said, my dad did quite a bit he used to teach. And he was like I said, the chief of the Red Bottom, very knowledgeable, but he's not here anymore. So those are pretty big shoes to fill. And even though I've been in education for quite a while, I'm nowhere near to where an elder is or where my father was. You know, just trying to get some awareness out there, you know, get people to share maybe in the methodology of TPR for hand signs or what have you doesn't need to even be hand signed. There's a lot of other methodologies out there that people can utilize for integrating their language or culture into the classroom. So many different ways. When they say, well, how do you do it? How I mean, how are we going to get this done? How are we going to build a curriculum? Okay, okay. You're thinking Western again. How are we going to get this done?  Period. Indigenous education is experiential education to me. You're not going to be able to learn how to sing unless you go try it. You're not going to learn, you know, how to go tan hide unless you go do it. Everything we're the first nations, I think it's all experiential first, hopefully our own schools, you know, are being able to empower and train up individuals to get after it to get out there and make something happen on their own. Let me put it this way. The Hawaiian people don't have like, like a reservation like we got, they got to actually get out and work for it. They got to come together and make something happen and they did. You're telling me 21 schools, all private money. This ain't a state school. These aren't state schools. These aren't, these are Hawaiian schools. Think about that. Hawaiian schools, the Hawaiian way, Hawaiian science and history and physics and whatever math, Hawaiian. Now think about a first nation school like that or even your own hometown, wherever, that way. And what does that look like in their eye? What is that? How does that look? Where do we start? You know what I mean? Are we still going to go ahead and keep doing things a Western way or are we going to start implementing it our way? You have to make a decision at some point. But again, where's the curriculum? Show me the syllabus, show me the test. You know, how do we assess that? I'm looking for something different in education. I'm not looking for the same, same old thing, but because it ain't working at home for us. We've been implementing orthography tests. We ain't creating any speakers. So, and then through the books. Pre-posts are under qualitative data based on clientele. So if you had a, you know, on our students, for example, we usually have around a 75, 85% success rate depending on what we're doing. But again, that's, those aren't running, again, a pre-post, a test, the qualitative run, filming, or whatever, audio. So we might quiz out on for the first quarter, we want maybe 50 sight words. So we'll do the hand signs like yes, no, good, bad. We'll give the hand signs, you know, and then after one, once in English, never again, huh, he washed that, see job. At the end of that quarter, we'll test out again, depending on how many they get. And that's just one way for the hand signs. It's culture. It's about everything. It's about a different way to think, maybe a different way to perceive, a different way to be. Of course, the language, of course, the culture, but everybody's different. So that's why I said this has to kind of be flexible. The concept is sound, cognitive experiential immersion. And getting it out there would be the getting people fired up to do something in their community. That's always the hard part, motivation, trying to get motivated to get people to do anything. So just getting out of bed sometimes is tough for me.  So I think that, you know, everybody's a little bit different, but at the end of the day, I can look back and be able to say, well, you know, I did my best at getting a different perception out there to think differently. So the thing right now where there's a lot of Freudian, for example, there's a lot of Freudian therapeutic approaches that are still being practiced. But there's also one that's coming into play.  It's called positive psychology and it's self help, self talk, self, you know, thought. That's one of the keys to changing. You know what I mean for, you have to start thinking differently if you want to become differently, to receive differently. And we kind of might sound cheesy, but that's just the bottom line. If you want to become different, or you want to change your life, or you want to become more knowledgeable, you got to seek it out. And you can't just sit at home and do nothing. And the majority of us are sitting at home watching the TV or watching the games or whatever, when you can be utilizing your time. So let's even talk about that. Let's talk about time. There is no time. There is no time in your day. When do you have time to learn the language? If you have a job, nine to five, then you come home and do chores with the family. When do you have time to start putting forth that effort? And immersively they did the studies, it takes around six hours, a day minimum to start picking up a language, six hours a day. Where's your teachers that are going to teach six hours a day? Where's your students that are going to sit there for six hours and actually start picking this stuff up? And so time is certainly an issue. Public schools don't give us enough time in the classroom, not at all, to teach the language. And that's why we have minimal, minimal success in public settings. But there's so many variables, you know what I mean? When it comes to education, who holds the purse strings? Where does that, when it comes down the ladder, that upper echelon, I guess, the fiat system, where do we fit in? By the time the dollars hit us, it's minimal and there's minimal time. And that certainly plays a huge, huge factor in all of Indian country everywhere. But the only thing I can say about, I guess, the culture and the language is that that's who we are. We have to try to at least identify where we come from, you know, and that's going to give us a sense of where we might take it or where we can go, at least learn all you can, whether it's the culture, language, knowledge is part of life and is the key to some great success out there for you. And I think that if everybody learned a little differently and seen the world a little differently, we'd be living in a different era and a different time. But, you know, we wouldn't be so dominated or held down. We've got to empower ourselves again, especially our future, our children, you know, that I just want to say thank you and good luck to all you that are in education and are in studying and are in school that are helping your tribe and in those positions to be effective. Good luck and keep helping the people.