We've already spent a lot of time talking about how neat carbon is for life and for biology and for chemical reaction. So much so that there's a whole field of organic chemistry devoted to studying the chemistry of molecules that involve carbon. And one of the things that carbon, or two of the things that carbon will often bond with are itself and with hydrogens. So much so that there's an entire class of molecules that are only made up of carbons and hydrogens. And we call these, it's a very creative name, we call them hydrocarbons. Hydrocarbons. And you will see many, many types of pure hydrocarbons and you'll see many other types of molecules that at least are partially hydrocarbons or are based on hydrocarbons. So it's a really interesting thing to study. Here's three examples of hydrocarbons. These all have the prefix F in the beginning of them because they have a chain, their longest chain, has two carbons. And if you wanna study how to name hydrocarbons or actually organic compounds in general, I encourage you to look at the organic chemistry section of Khan Academy where we're going to depth on it. But this is just going to get, just kind of dip our toe in the water just so we get a little bit familiar. So these all have the prefix F which says our longest chain of carbon. We're gonna have two carbons over here. But then we see that the ending is different. Over here, we have ethane. And it's an ane because we have a single bond over here. This over here, we have an ane and that's because we have a double bond. We have at least one double bond in that chain and the carbon chain is only two carbons over here. And it's ethine here because we have a triple bond. The general term for a carbon chain that has no double or triple bonds is an alkane. This is a specific form of an alkane, ethane, that has two carbons. If the general form for carbons that have a double bond, that's an alkene. Actually, let me write these general terms down. So I could write alkane. Alkane is the general term for a chain of carbons that has no double or triple bonds and specifically this is ethane. If I were to speak generally here, I'd say alkene. I would say alkyne right over here.


ervices will need to reflect that. It is important that the allied health professionals have a leadership role in determining the evolution of that model and the services that they provide and that they are not simply thought of as something that will also be done, but that they are central to all of that. I close with this point, and I do not mean this in a party political way because I recognise that there are members on other sides of the chamber who are sceptical, but if the Westminster Government fulfills the promise that it has made about significant extra funding for health, the consequentials that will come to this Parliament could by the end of it be several hundred million pounds a year. It is terribly important that we do not just allow that money to be used to keep things as they are and to keep the ship of state as it is. The model that we need to see evolve has to make use of the opportunity that it has given to allow real development in all of those services. I know that the minister will be keen to see that that is so, but it will be a challenge, I think, as we go forward to ensure that we rise to it. Thank you. I now call Ruda Grant. This has been a positive debate, and I think that there is consensus across the chamber on the importance of the role of AHPs. I do not think that that is something that AHPs are not unused to hearing. I think that they have heard that very often, but I think that they expect a bit more from us about making sure that those roles are enabled to be played at their full part to provide the benefits that they very much can do. I welcome the additional funding, the three million that the minister announced today, and it will go part of the way to redress some of the cuts that we have heard about in the debate. I think that, while that is welcome, there possibly needs to be more done. It would be helpful if she would, in her summing up, tell us if that has come out of the integration budget, that additional funding it would be useful to know. I am not going to list all the AHPs and the services that they provide. Some members have tried to do that. They have got their tongue in a twist, so I am not even going to go there. However, there are just so many, and that has become clear from the debate today, that if you start trying to list them, the chances are that you are going to miss a number of them out, and they all have a very important role to play. Especially important in that role is cutting and scheduled admissions into hospital, keeping people out of hospital and indeed getting them out of hospital once they are in there. I think that that is really important because this is not an add-on service, it is a crucial part of the healthcare team and something that we need to do. Our amendment today calls for an audit of the national development plan, and that is something that has been called for by AHPs themselves. This is because there are only 10 months left to run until the completion of the plan, and yet the Scottish Government has barely reached the halfway mark with this. In the progress report, they acknowledge that, but we need to see how the outcomes and the outcomes that are causing the greatest challenge are going to be met in the future. It is especially important given that those outcomes that are lagging behind have the most to offer when tackling unscheduled admissions and indeed delayed discharge. The four most significant that are falling behind are support for independent living, reconfiguration of enablement services, the shift to community-based activities and indeed self-referral. If we are only at 52 per cent of achievement, we really need to make some progress in the final months of the plan. If I can turn to self-referral, a number of speakers talked about this. It gets people back on their feet much faster, but it also cuts down double handling. It saves time for GPs. Previously, people went to GPs to be referred to, for example, a physiotherapist. That was a waste of the GPs time, and now people can self-refer themselves. I think that it is extremely important that that happens, because it goes not only towards achieving the plan, but means that people are back on their feet much, much quicker. Hans Alamallach talked about that. Better outcomes, faster recovery times, but he also said that the system had to be improved. If we are looking to build in that speed, waiting for maybe three weeks to have a call back from a referral service, it means that somebody may be off their work or indeed have their condition worsening as they wait for that referral. A lot of people have talked about the challenges that we face and that make the role of A HPs even more crucial. Living longer, but, as Mike McKenzie said, I would have to agree with him. Living longer is a success. It is something that we should celebrate and be proud of, because it is something that we have achieved and that we all hope to attain. However, we need to make sure that the additional years that everyone gets are quality years. People need to be active and independent, as Jane Baxter said. That is an aspiration that we can fulfil with the help of A HPs. I wonder whether the member agrees with me that rural healthcare presents particular challenges that can perhaps be at least partly addressed by the use of allied health professionals. I would be extremely pleased if she agrees with me, because that would be two issues that we are in agreement on this afternoon. With a grant? That is a rare occurrence that I would have to admit, but I agree with that. A HPs not only have a huge amount to offer in rural areas, but the way that we deliver A HPs services, which I hope that if I have a chance, I will come on to using things like e-health and the like, would be really important. A number of speakers have talked about falls prevention, using exercise to strengthen frail elderly people prevents falls. If we read from some of the briefings that we have had today, 86 per cent of unintentional injury is due to falls and indeed 75 per cent of hospital admissions. Indeed, hip fractures are a great cause of mortality, so it is something that we need to deal with. Stuart Stevenson, thank you very much. My apologies if it did come up. I had an important meeting. I was away for about half an hour, but one of the professions that I have not heard mentioned is that of the dietitian. Of course, good eating will preserve the quality of the bones in all that people reduce the instance of breaks and the effect of falls. I wonder if the member might care to agree that dietitians are an important part of this landscape as well. My colleague Jenny Marra has just whispered into my ear that the role and delivery of meals and meals and, indeed, the nutritional impact of meals and meals would be really important, but not only dietitians but speech therapists and their role in working with dietitians about swallowing and making food easier for older people to consume. I think that all that has to be included. Again, it shows that there is a variety of services provided by AAHPs. A number of people in their speeches talked about dementia, Sandra White talked about dementia-friendly communities and, indeed, non-pharmacological services. I think that that is the only one that I am going to try to pronounce, because all those are difficult to pronounce. It is really important that things such as Christine Grahame have talked about art and music therapy, which are triggering memories in people with dementia. It is really important that we have people who understand past art and music and the like that people can relate to, depending on where their memories fall. Indeed, the customs and practices of the societies that they are lived in provide reassurance to them. Michael Russell talked about the drop of number of AAHPs working in those areas. As we have more dementia in our communities, those roles are becoming increasingly important to make people feel reassured who are experiencing that condition. I talked about the enabling and rehabilitation services that AAHPs provide. It is really important that those are provided early, both in hospital and when preparing for discharge, because we know that hospitals are really disabling. Older people are not being able to walk around and not becoming independent, and they can lose the ability to look after themselves very quickly. OTs should be available in hospitals, but they are also available very early in discharge. That service may be intense in the initial stages of somebody's discharge to get them back on their feet. Jenny Marr talked about AAHP representation on boards. She was very clear that that was representation of AAHPs as a collective, not as individuals. I think that that is really important, because if we are really going to shift the balance of care, the boards that make the decision need to know what is available. We have boards that have medical and nursing reps on them, but we need to make sure that they also have AAHP reps on them, because they need to be at the very centre of decision making. As members here have described today, that is actually only when you start speaking to AAHPs that you learn the impact they can make. Thank you for taking the intervention. I wonder if the member would not agree with myself and, indeed, Stuart Stevenson's point earlier, that the size of the board could inflict some degree of damage due to the speed of decision making. There is no requirement for everyone to actually be on the board. The member misunderstands the point that we are making. We are talking about one person. A number of boards have already appointed an AAHP rep on to their number, so it is only the boards that have ignored that role and have not included them. One rep, not as I say representatives of every profession, but one rep of the AAHPs collectively, could make a big difference to the understanding and make-up of the boards. I am seeing—I am signing off— Can you continue for a wee bit yet? Just tell me when you need me to sit down, and indeed I can continue, because there are a number—in fact, there are a couple of really important issues that I have not touched on yet. Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. I just wanted to highlight the point that was made earlier, that in terms of people who are treating people with difficulties with art and drama, and that how local volunteer groups and other local organisations are taking up that responsibility rather than the NHS. Is there a danger if that happens that we can actually suffer the drain of expertise from the NHS itself? Relying on local organisations could mean that, in the long term, we will lose the mainstream employees and we will not have a uniform service that we currently enjoy. One moment, Ms Grant. Whoever has their telephone on, could they switch it off immediately? Ms Grant, if you could answer that point and come to your final points, I would be grateful. Thank you, Presiding Officer. Yes, I can answer that point. I think that we need both. We need people within the community. I recently visited the Highland Football Academy, where ex-football players were meeting people with dementia, talking to them about their experience playing the game while those people were young and indeed in a supporting role. It is really important that we have both. We need to tackle the number of physiotherapists available. A number of speakers have talked about the drop in physiotherapists and, indeed, senior clinicians. We need to address that to make sure that they are giving their expert advice. Things such as people who have talked about incontinence, stroke, carahilton and education, we need to make sure that there are enough senior clinicians in there to make that impact. Others have talked about housing associations and, indeed, adaptations and so on. It is very clear that housing associations have a role to play, but housing needs to be available in our communities so that people are at the centre of their communities. Too often, they are tucked away in a backwater. I would have to say Howard Doris Centre, which my mother stays in, provides sheltered housing, but it also has the library. It also runs art exhibitions. Indeed, it is the pulse of the community, almost a community centre, as well as the centre for sheltered housing. I think that we can learn a lot about that. As I said, in my opening, AAPs are used to getting warm words from politicians. We are all quick to point out the value of their contribution in health care and prevention, but they have to be valued as part of the health care team and held an equal esteem. More than anything, that would allow them to bring to bear the full impact of their skills in prevention and cure. Thank you very much, Mrs Garant. I now call on the minister to wind up the debate. Minister, to 5 o'clock. Thank you very much, Presiding Officer. At the outset of the debate, I acknowledge the importance of rehabilitation and enablement in supporting the health and social wellbeing of Scotland's population. In my view, the contributions made across this chamber have supported that position and have recognised the achievements that are made and the challenges that remain. Jane Baxter said that she thought that the work of the allied health professionals was undervalued, and she made an excellent contribution. I do not think that the work is undervalued by people who know about what they do and in their communities. I would say that it is very much underpublicised in the media, and I hope that the debate has gone some way to recognise that and that we are able, through this debate, to communicate with AHOPs directly, maybe through their professional magazines. The debate might be reported and that maybe we can all use the columns that we have in our local press to publicise the work that we believe AHOPs really do in our communities and how valuable it is to the overall health of our population. As you have heard, the implementation of the HPE delivery plan is demonstrating significant impact. For example, in our national MSK programme and our national falls prevention programme, AHOPs are working in co-operation with a range of partners, building community assets, supporting public health, reducing inequalities and enabling people to live full, active and productive lives. They also, through our unscheduled care improvement programme, contribute to the reduction of unnecessary admissions to hospital, facilitate early discharge, support people to stay at home and reduce the length of stay for those who are acutely ill or for whom admission is the most appropriate option. AHOPs have shown themselves to be senior clinician decision makers alongside their medical colleagues and are working across Scotland as the first point of contact practitioners to support prevention, early intervention and enablement. Jenny Marra mentioned the multidisciplinary team. We must also remember that if the patient is not in the meeting, the patient is always at the heart of the meeting and that their needs are taken into account and it is discussed with them. For individuals and families, particularly older people and people with dementia or complex needs, AHOPs play a central role in helping them to live active, self-determined lives and to avoid unnecessary admissions to health or care settings. Jenny Marra? I thank the minister for giving way. Given that we have agreed on the efficacy and effectiveness of the multidisciplinary teams, can she tell us what plans her Government has to make sure that they roll them out across Scotland? I think that they are at the moment a model of best practice but they are not happening everywhere. What is the Government doing to encourage that across all GP practices? I will come to that in my speech. They have in many areas taken the lead to ensuring that rehabilitation pathways are integrated across health and social care and, in doing so, have developed strong links with the voluntary and independent sectors. We have heard many excellent examples where significant achievements have been delivered across Scotland, where preventative spending is already being achieved and where outcomes are being improved for service users and their families. I was particularly interested in Mike Russell's reminiscence therapy, which is widely used now with people with dementia. The HPE consultant in the care inspectorate has supported the focus on activity in care homes, making every moment count. Christine Grahame mentioned that, too. The importance of physiotherapy, rather than having the horror of mesh implants, was mentioned by many. Notwithstanding your response to Mike Russell about the drop in the number of arts therapists, I see that it is down 27 per cent from 32 to 23 per cent. Could I ask the minister to look at that and consider, given Mike Russell's contribution in a minor way my own, to reconsider and to look at increasing those therapists across the spectrum of needs? I am not sure whether Christine Grahame was in the chamber when I replied to that particular point by Mike Russell. However, as I pointed out, there are many other organisations doing that, but we will certainly take that away and look at it. I would like to highlight again the leading work that the HPEs are undertaking in the rollout across Scotland of the centralised musculoskeletal referral management system that offers referral to the public, triage by phone, promotion of self-management and web-based resources, and specialist advice or intervention from a physiotherapist or podiatrist when clinically indicated. NHS boards currently using the MSK telephone service demonstrate on average 13 per cent of patients transferred from AHP to self-management and sustainable AHP-led pathways, show evidence of up to a 25 per cent reduction in orthopedic referrals combined with increased conversion to surgery rates, and up to 30 per cent fewer low-back MRIs by use of consistent protocol. The chamber has already heard how practical assistance in the form of advice, equipment and adaptations can enhance independent living. Using smart care in North Lanarkshire, a fast-track assessment approach was piloted by local authority occupational therapists. In one locality and within three months, the waiting times for assessment by an occupational therapist were reduced. I think that this was something that Cara Hylton mentioned in her speech and how she did not think that NHS Fife and NHS and the council were dealing properly with delayed discharge. I think that they could take a leaf out of the book of the OTs in North Lanarkshire, who have introduced a portal for web-based self-assessment, which has freed up OTs to undertake further assessment for those who most in need and waiting times went down from nine months to eight weeks. That is the sort of example that Jenny Marra was calling for to be rolled out across the country. Hospitals at home services are central to the delivery of the outcomes for integration and the 2020 route map. There are examples of that. Assessment, diagnosis and management of a cupped episode is undertaken with one hour, and 86 per cent of patients assessed are able to be treated at home. The average allowance of stay on a team is 4.4 days, and less than 50 per cent of patients are admitted to hospital. The cost of the service is between two thirds and 50 per cent of a hospital stay. The quality of care is good, if not better than hospital care, as patients have told us. Some of them say that this is the way that healthcare should be. It is like the cavalry coming over the hill. While we see a move for AHPs moving out into the community, they also work in the A&E departments and prevent significant numbers of unnecessary admissions. I am proud of what has been achieved in Scotland. In fact, AHPs in Scotland are now being recognised across the United Kingdom and internationally for leading edge and innovative work that they are doing to improve care, redesign services and enable active, independent and productive living. For example, discussions are underway with Australia and New Zealand regarding testing our mosquito skeletal service model within their health service. However, in my opening remarks in this debate, while there has been significant progress made in delivery, there is still much more that needs to be done. We will strengthen our enabling approach to service delivery through the actions of our national delivery plan and the refresh that we have talked about today. That will provide the opportunity to focus even more on rehabilitation and enablement and other aspects of efficiency and productivity and ensure that NHS Scotland is best placed to realise the 2020 vision by providing safe, effective person-centred care, supporting people to live at home and in a homely setting as long as possible. I can reassure Rhoda Grant that the extra £3 million that will help to drive this forward has not come from the integration fund, it has come from the chief health profession officer's budget and also from the programme for capacity building in primary care. I hope that she will be pleased to hear. Members across the chamber have identified areas where we would seek to have further improvement. We will bear those in mind when we reflect on the refresh of our delivery plan. As I said in my opening statement, I agree with the amendment put forward by the Liberal Democrats. In Jenny Marra's amendment, much of what she asks for is already being delivered. There is regular benchmarking with NHS boards to identify the programme of all the deliverables. We have already published a national report on the programme to date. We would seek to co-produce a refresh of the national delivery plan to reflect on the areas that are requiring additional support. It is up to the Audit Committee if it wants to do an audit on it, and the Audit Office might do that. I think that all the way along that we are looking at it and seeing what is working and what is not. In terms of the self-referral, that is already happening in some areas and is being rolled out as the plan develops. In terms of the physiotherapists, I think that Jenny Marra would agree that that is a bored decision. I remember when I came into Parliament, there were too many physiotherapists not getting jobs. They are now getting jobs, and they are in the system. In the spirit of being consensual in this debate, sending out a clear message to the HPs that they are doing a great job, I will accept Jenny Marra's amendment. That concludes the debate on online health professionals, enabling active and independent living. We now move to decision time. There are three questions to be put as a result of today's business. First question is amendment number 1396.2 in the name of Jenny Marra, which seeks to amend motion number 13196 in the name of Maureen Watt. On allied health professionals, be agreed to. Are we all agreed? The amendment is there for agreed to. The next question is amendment number 13196.1 in the name of Jim Hume, which seeks to amend motion number 13196 in the name of Maureen Watt. On allied health professionals, be agreed to. Are we all agreed? That amendment is there for agreed to. The next question is that motion number 13196 in the name of Maureen Watt, as amended, on allied health professionals, be agreed to. Are we all agreed? The motion is amended. Is there for agreed to. That concludes decision time. We are now moving to members' business. Members who leave the chamber should do so quickly and quietly. The final item of business today is the members' business debate on motion number 12.


Raise your right hand, please. Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do. Mr. Blankenhorn, what is the primary purpose of marriage in human groups? We're embodied as male and female. That's the basic division in the species. We we reproduce sexually. In fact, the famous anthropologist Claude Levi Strauss once described marriage as a social institution with a biological foundation. He was saying that across societies that the man and the woman whose sexual union makes the child that those same two individuals are also the social and legal parents of the child and there is only one institution in the world that performs the task of bringing together the three dimensions of parenthood the biological the social and the legal that institution is marriage Because we know how important this is for children very well. Mr. Boyce. You may cross-examine well Let me try to make this as simple as I can Have any of the any of the scholars that you've said you relied on said that permitting same-sex marriage will cause a Reduction in heterosexual marriages. That's yes. No, or I don't know I know the answer. I cannot answer you correctly if the only words I'm allowed to choose from is yes or no I can give you my answer in a very brief sentence if you know the answer. Why don't you share it with us? Well, I would be happy to but he's only permitting me to give yes and no I Cannot do that and be accurate He is giving you three choices. Yes. No, I don't know but I do know I do know the answer Then is it yes or is it no your honor? I can answer the question but I cannot give an accurate answer if the only two choices I have are yes and no I if you give me a sentence I can answer this one sentence is all I'm asking for All right, let's take a sentence one sentence. Can you ask me the question again, please? Yes Have any of the scholars who you say you relied on asserted that they believe permitting same-sex marriage will result in a Reduction in the heterosexual marriage rate answer is That I believe that some of the scholars I have cited have asserted that permitting same-sex marriage would contribute to the de-institutionalization of marriage One of the manifest manifestations of which would be a lower marriage rate among heterosexuals But I do not have sure knowledge that in the exact form of words you are asking me for They have made the direct assertion that permitting same-sex marriage would directly lower the marriage rate among heterosexuals Mr. Blankenhorn that wasn't that long Questions and answers if I were to take that as an I don't know would that be fair? Well with respect your honor, I would disagree with you I know Exactly my answer to this question and I have just stated it and I would be happy to restate it The record is clear on what you said and when you say Based on the scholars that have studied this that's because you're simply repeating the things that these scholars say you're just a Transmitter of the findings of these scholars. Is that correct now? You're putting words in my mouth. No, sir Yes, sir I was simply trying to report the view of some scholars that I was basing my arguments on I'm saying there are scholars respected scholars Who have made this argument based on ethnographic research and I've read them and that's the basis for my assertion your honor Could I ask this witness be instructed to listen to the question? Answer my question and not make a statement that is not responsive to the question even if he believes it's important I don't need such instruction. That's what that my intention is to do exactly that Mr. Blankenhorn One of the instructions that the court gives to the jury when an expert witness testifies is to consider the witness's background training and all the other evidence in the case and that other evidence includes the demeanor of the witness So I would urge you to pay close attention to mr. Boyce's questions and to answer them directly succinctly So bear that in mind. Yes, sir. I will I'm really just addressing whether I was putting words in your mouth If you look at page 300 lines 7 through 12 You said that you were basing your analysis on the work of highly regarded scholars and then you say okay Oh, I got you a moment. I used the word. I'm a transmitter of findings of eminent scholars. Got you Okay, I Said transmitter seven months ago in a deficit and what you meant there was that you weren't making these conclusions on your own You were simply repeating what these scholars had to say is that correct if I may say so well my own words Let me look at your own words. Let's look at your own words page 300. I am simply repeating things that they say I can assure you these are not my own conclusions. I am I'm I'm a transmitter here of findings of Findings of these eminent scholars. Did you give that testimony your deposition? That's what I said at the deposition Now you believe that gays and lesbians today are raising children, correct? Of course. Yes And in fact hundreds of thousands of children are being raised by gay and lesbian couples. Is that correct? I? Don't know how many you ever try to find out. I did And were you able to make an approximation? I Was yes, sir. I was And What was that approximation? I Can't recall can you recall approximately no, sir Okay And you recognize that in some cases gay and lesbians are raising a child It is the biological child of one of the parents and in some cases they are raising adopted children. That's correct Those would be too To you know, of course, they would be those would be examples of Those would be examples of children and gay and lesbian homes. Yes And you believe that permitting gay and lesbian couples to marry would significantly advantage the gays and the lesbians themselves and The children that they are raising is that correct sir? When you say advantage, do you mean improve the well-being of? yes, my answer to your question is that I believe that Adopting same-sex marriage would Be likely to Improve the well-being of gay and lesbian households and their children in fact The studies show that all things being equal to adoptive parents raising a child from birth Will do as well as to biological parents raising a child from birth correct No, sir, that's in well, sir. Oh may I say another word on that? I have an opportunity to redirect. Okay. Well It was a clarifying thing and it actually supports something you just said the studies show that adoptive parents Because of the rigorous screening process that they undertake before becoming adoptive parents Actually on some outcomes Outstrip the biological parents in terms of providing protective care for their children Yes, I was gonna come to that I appreciate you for getting there now in Binder number one. We have a copy of your book future of marriage and the last two sentences After all part of the reason why the principle is so revolutionary is that it can grow and deepen over time Groups that had long been considered effectively outside its moral reach African-Americans women people of certain colors or languages or religions Can over time and often as a result of great struggle enter into its protective sphere And then you get to two sentences. I want to particularly direct your attention to you say I Believe that today the principle of equal human dignity must apply to gay and lesbian persons You see that Yes, yes, sir. Yep, and the I There is you correct. That's correct and you say that In that sense in so far as we are a nation founded on this principle, we would be more Emphasize more American on the day we permitted same-sex marriage than we were on the day before And you wrote those words. Did you not sir? I wrote those words You believe them to be correct. Yes. Yes. I now believe them. That's correct your honor. I have no more questions


Hi, I am Jan Reardon and I am a very proud and honored member of the Jennifer Reardon Foundation. I'm on the board and my brother created the foundation to honor his wife, Jennifer and her mantra of always being kind, loving, caring and sharing. The four pillars of the foundation are women's empowerment, financial literacy, early childhood education and community vitality. Speaking of community vitality, I have the absolute pleasure of introducing two of the most amazing women in my world that I have known forever and ever, family, friends from way back when. And this is also a follow up to a show that we did have on the Kindness Connection a couple of years ago when Kathleen came over during the pandemic. Kathleen was at my house and Kevin came over and did the filming right there. So we had an introduction to Martha's Barn which is what we are following up on today speaking of community vitality and just a way that we can really come together and be supportive of one another, people with all backgrounds, disabilities, whatever the case may be, we're coming together and this barn is going to be built and it's already filled with great activities and Kathleen is here to share that with us but first I just want to introduce Kathleen Corbanus who is the president of Martha's Barn Inc. And then the great pleasure of Martha Corbanus and I just love having you here. Not only is Martha, which I need to slip in the former owner of the Lincoln Inn back in the good old days when everybody knew your name in Essex and it was the place to go but as the founder of Martha's Barn because of your love for your granddaughter Martha obviously and we'll talk about that more but I just wanted people to know who's here and why we're here and it's all for good things well. It's my pleasure and I speak the truth. So why don't we start off Kathleen if I can just ask you perhaps to just give us a little history on why there is Martha's Barn and I know it's a lot to catch up 21 years of time here but why we are talking about this right now. I think how and I get really emotional so I have to keep notes or I'll cry the whole time. How Martha's Barn really got started was Yaya Martha and Yaya Emma right? And Yaya's grandmother in Greek. Yeah so Martha's named after Yaya both of her grandmothers. Beautiful. Who are very strong women in my life. Oh absolutely what role models. We're going to cry the whole time it's okay. Well now we have women's empowerment mixed in with community vitality so this is perfect but let's talk about all the wonderful things and what this love has done and continues to do. It is about love. Talk about trials and tribulations and here we are and it's all about love. So when I say how incorporating that model so Yaya Emma and Yaya Martha are the incorporators of Martha's Barn and so I think you know when I brought this up to them the property was already in the family and Yaya had envisioned it for Martha. And so I said well that's a wonderful gift and that's a wonderful life home and how are we going to do this and I said well. And if you don't mind that model just could back up for anybody that may not have seen the first show just to know that Martha does have autism and the reason you're doing this is to make sure she lives a full quality life and that's what came about with the discussion of the barn and that's where all this is going. Right okay so yep she's she has autism she's 23 years old which is crazy that these years have flown by so we first really incorporated in 2014-ish 2015 and you know worked really hard with stakeholder input on how to figure this out but so Martha has autism and my brother Lenny who I brought his book again he had a traumatic brain injury so when I was 10 years old my brother had a TBI that changed his life forever and I watched my mom as a 10-year-old work really really hard to set up a lifelong care home for him so that he didn't have to live a life of isolation exactly because his prior options would have been institutionalization and we do not institutionalize anymore right so I knew the model of care that that our Martha would need and so so these awesome moms incorporated and then I gathered a couple friends who were prior teachers of Martha right who knew her well and I said listen I Martha says she wants to be a farmer when she grows up it all started right was it yeah and you had the land and this beautiful home and right in Essex yeah and it's just a beautiful the universe oh exactly um you know here she was I think 11 when she started saying it um and most kids with autism don't say what they want to be when they grow up always who does so she started I would be like Martha what do you want to be when you grow up and she'd be like a farmer and she'd be so happy and she loves eggs and she loves vegetables right I mean I would take her to school in the morning and she'd grab a head of cauliflower for the car ride oh her salt grinder and she'd be like hilarious yeah um so I said okay how do I build a business out of what she loves and how do I help other people and so I didn't have to look very far because I looked toward my my history my my family's life and so how and why we decided to do this is because there's an enormous need um not just for Martha um but for all of Martha's peers exactly and there's a lot of people um in the community that people don't even know we exist you know it's right ages 22 to 64 there's a really large dynamic of of aging parents and young adults um who need lifelong long-term care right so that's why right and I love the fact that there's now you know because of Martha's barn and all that you have done so much more awareness so that people are comfortable because I think part of the you know the awkwardness and the fear of others is the unknown and I think the more people know and then that love is there and they're not surprised by anything they expect and understand different behaviors because we all react differently and who doesn't I mean there's all sorts of you know ways to react to something and and many people have you know anger issues and that's what they're dealing with this is just one more form of how to deal with patients and when people are around you and so that's what I love about the show is that we're able to again put the word out there let people know that there's great things happening and that this is a part of our community that makes us stronger and makes us better absolutely yeah good thank you yeah so let me I'm going to just shoot over to Martha now with my question of what is your actual vision Martha for Martha's barn like what would you see as a perfect day if you were to stop by there or what are your thoughts on what it will accomplish what I see is actually what Kathleen sees I might repeat myself but I do go going way back in 2004 when we sold the Lincoln Inn we decided to buy this property which was a little home with three acres with a vision that this would be Martha's dwelling without realizing the work and the effort behind it not only to benefit our child but because the three acres gave the opportunity to develop something else that would benefit the community exactly and that time what Martha was five or six years old yes exactly so you're thinking ahead and obviously realizing the current need as well as others that didn't have this opportunity when they became young adults when you get that diagnosis you know it's lifelong yes exactly and you're planning for yeah the future right right yes you do and we also knew that at some point she might have to be sent out of state and that was not an option we wanted exactly and Kathleen has worked very hard to get this underway right it's a huge accomplishment Martha will be guaranteed a place quality of life quality of life close to her parents exactly and something that will benefit the community other children absolutely that would because if the option is to send your child out of state it's a very traumatic oh absolutely I mean for for everybody involved right I know and to be able to take that obstacle out of this really emotional scenario is just you know talk about a gift to the community and not only to your daughter and granddaughter I mean this is far-reaching yes I'm gonna need tissues I am I think I am gonna need tissues at some point I don't want to start using my sleeve right okay uh let's see so so to continue with that then Martha what would you say would be a day that would be glorious for you to see when you go to the barn and everything has all been you know built and developed and programs that are I would like to see it before I pass oh when you pull in the driveway on in your you know on your motorcycle what do you want to see going on yes I want I want to see other children in the property yes they could be farming they could be playing they could be uh socializing I just want to see other children in that place and adults and adults yes because they are I mean Martha's always she's always our little girl but yeah but we do want to be children and adults so um not not the residential part that would be adults but the community space and social space and lifelong connections right and to be clear about the residential piece so Martha lives in the house that's there right now that everything began with and there would be perhaps room for one other person to be there and then in the barn what's the residential piece of that along with all the activities that would be going on yeah another residential piece for the barn as well right and how many people are you thinking would be able to I think three total is a very manageable very manageable comfortable the future we don't know what the future holds but I think three is a very sustainable model right now right and I love the idea of the multi-purpose space because we all know exchange and you can you know as long as you have that opportunity you can create all new types of you know activities and programs there as need be over the years which is nice that there is that flexibility and this can be a model for the people exactly to develop the same concept exactly to replicate in other communities with other needs and because Kathleen has worked very hard to bring this into fruition absolutely we can stand as a model so family throughout the state right because really there isn't anything quite like this in place there's other versions but not quite to this level where it opens up to the community and people can come in and do different activities based on their passions yeah not really I mean I'm very inspired by other models that I know around the state the yellow house is an amazing right to our models a little bit different because of our our funding streams are a little bit different than other models but the social space gathering the the clients that live there their families right I mean all I'm all about the circle of support exactly because sadly we're going to pass right and we need the next generations you know coming forward and so the circle of support of of just social engagements right and the resources you know through other people obviously loved ones but then even the business community you know you think about all the different jobs and things and maybe you could talk a little bit more if you would about what Martha does and what some of her friends do to really help and contribute to the community and I think there's a lot more of those opportunities available that you know I'm sure you're pursuing yep it's a little bit complicated and I only want to talk about on behalf of Martha sure there's another boy who he's fine with me kind of talking about his passion but that's Jacob's laundry oh wonderful and Martha's is Martha's eggs and vegetables and so that's kind of a little entrepreneurship so what do their days look like when they are working so Martha's doing it now right and it's laundry for a young man who's in a wheelchair so she takes in his laundry does his laundry brings it back to him ten dollars and Brittany her caregiver who's amazing is like you know what let's give that back to Ann Dodd's food shelf oh so that a nice you know which just is amazing because you know we don't cycle yeah yeah supporting one another the eggs and vegetables is a tougher one right now because we're just kind of starting out with gardening again but we do the three chickens right now we will get bigger when when we have more people sure but right now three chickens and the garden growing and Martha either doing a farm stand or you know or just growing her own food exactly right and the education around that too just to be whether you're visual or audio type of learner that were can aesthetic whatever you can you have the opportunity to experience that and see that that's something that you want to do and you didn't even know that before you know speaking of everyone you know it's just great experience for people we do have a website page um oh good and it's about Martha and um and just all the skills that she's really learning what she puts into action and that will come up here but can you give us the website address please just so that people can access that later on yep uh www.marthesbarnvt.com perfect i think we'll double check and see it's right here yeah okay it's not yeah yep www.marthesbarnvt.com perfect yeah um so um it was a little scary for me at first actually to put my daughter's picture on the oh i bet i bet it really is like i know there's that whole other aspect that you don't want to even think about it it's so pure as far as the the mission and to think about you have to be aware i can't operate out of fear no you know i can't let that stop you i can't right if i operated out of fear nothing would happen heartbreak i would live under a rock and i can't exactly i have to keep going right and you have done that yeah i brought my little purple butterfly that inspires me but every day i just think you know absolutely one more day forward yes exactly and that's talk about one foot in front of the other we've proven that that yes exactly we're going forward right now in some ways i'm sure you know it never gets easier but then in other ways if you give yourself time and credit to you know seen and look back on all the accomplishments to get to this point yeah it's remarkable exactly exactly not only that Jen but you can see it in Martha's face oh now how happy she is yes and so how well adjusted she is to her environment right so where you are what you do does make a big difference to a child with problems absolutely and we've seen Martha unhappy oh and now to see her thrive and now to see her in this environment it's like a miracle i mean it is it's an intentional miracle from what you've done but it is yes yeah she facetimed me yesterday and the day before and um and uh my mom actually is in a nursing home now and i was at that's why she's not yeah that's why i'm crying a lot i'm sorry but um we're missing her and we're you know and it's just hard for me to talk about but um but she'll facetime at these moments when i'm together and i wish she was there but you know it's it's hard to i'll go to a nursing home together and things like that but you know she all of a sudden i were having dinner at the nursing home together and martha facetimes in oh boy i hold up the ipad and here she is thank god for technology i love technology yeah and it's just um because we were all just barely talking about her that's really yes yeah and i was showing videos of all the wonderful things that she's been doing and right so here she is facetiming oh my goodness and who would have thought years ago that she'd be facetiming you you know yeah yeah well she's you know she's getting more independent she's developed right and she is and she is and she refers to her environment as home so you know that that's right yeah and she would not have been this independent yeah it's not been for what you have done as a family it's a lot of incredibly hard work yes to um raise a child with some complex needs and figure out their life plan and their home and sustain that absolutely and i know a lot of other parents now really the pandemic brought us together and i know a lot of other parents who who live in my shoes um and everybody's quite scared sure um and as you say as the children are aging now they're young adults and when when they're smaller it seems like you have more control just like you do with the time and the parents are aging well that's it they have that fear as well and that is so damn resources like this right in Essex is beautiful for the community to be stronger and i don't i i am gonna toot our horn a little bit i'm sorry but um you know here we are alex and i on the board together and yeah and alex's brother and you know and because having a child with a disability can really be rough yeah it's a family it's of course it can be pretty tough it's hard enough you know having a family that's together no less when you have all of these additional issues that you have to deal with as a team you know you're not on the same page at the same time is the problem all that love is there but you know it's coming together at that time and thinking the same way and kudos to you Kathleen because i and Martha too to have everybody but here we are united exactly and all of us playing a role in the panel exactly our child and for each other right for support because as we said it's not easy no and the parents bear the most brunt of that for sure absolutely and then when we meet other families which i do often um you know it's it's kind of that positivity positivity is kind of magnetic right and that inspires you yeah you know and you're talking when you join forces that's right when you join forces you're not alone we're not alone in this you know we can collaborate we can collaborate exactly yeah and we need one another i mean and thankfully you did get together during the pandemic because as we've seen what that pandemic did to people you know just that were in perfect health but they're home alone and nobody was going to see them and and then all of a sudden there's mental illness so there's so many different factors and features of everybody that you walk down the street and see so everybody just needs to be more accepting and understand you know all the benefits of of what everybody brings into the community right right to accomplish the greater good exactly when your goal is that you put all your emotional feelings on the side right and stay the course and this is where we can and what an incredible outcome now to be at this point where you'll see this come to fruition in the very near future so really in 24 things will be as long as you know we'll we'll talk a little bit more about the funding stream and donations that are needed and events that will be going but to move in the direction where things will be underway hopefully late 23 early 24 do you I hope so I you know every year I gotta push your pack push your pack I am applying for another grant because of financial reasons financial reasons yeah okay the cost of lumber went up sure everything went up and our $500,000 barn went to 750 right so um you know we can't really do it until we can fund it it of course yes we can't leave a building half and we have the land and we have the place right and truly a little help from the outside right to be able to accomplish exactly but the foundation is really in place for this to happen I mean most of the work is done even though not to make light of the you know building this I could whip it up in a month right yeah I could whip it up in a month I'm ready two belt over there so I I could whip it up in no I've met so many wonderful people in the community um I love my electrician Grace she's like I'll volunteer all gather up and that's the type and that makes the building so special you know it's a home yeah so much love goes into I mean people are just really chomping at the bit to help they just don't know yeah yes and I do need a physical structure to get that social space going okay um so with that why don't we just because I want to make sure we cover this and we're down to five minutes left which I can't even believe because it's gone by so quickly but Kathleen could you give us an overview of a day at Martha's barn like for the participant so Martha give us like her day now because she's kind of living that even though the actual barns out there her lifestyle is such that she's using that land to be able to learn about growing vegetables and eating those vegetables as you say so what's a day like one day of of Martha's that you would like to highlight okay so currently without the barn right it's a little different so she does um she you know say on a Wednesday what day of the week is it today Thursday yeah let's take today let's take today let's take today so um so she has a staff member from SD associates who is a behavior program locally and Howard center is my daughter's agency okay so Howard center has contracted a behaviorist to work with Martha they do something called essentials for living um and that's how she's learned all these wonderful skills so she will start her day this morning with um doing her laundry making her bed doing her laundry putting away preparing her lunch putting it away vacuuming i've seen her do some vacuuming i breaks into that right yeah great skills so it's really lifelong skills that are being taught skills that you learn when you maintain your own home exactly and to see i'm gonna cry again but to see it happening um she has a really big smile on her face exactly so you can read her well anyways she has a really big smile on her face and when i talk to you know we're overseeing by the Howard center and and i send them videos all the time and um you know and she does yoga for four minutes to calm down there that's awesome yeah that's fabulous and she walks she does a loop around the property and that is fun to see because she doesn't turn back she does the whole loop she knows if she's not feeling quite right you have said she'll go out and do that loop and as we all know that's what exercise is all about just what that can do for your mind she's learned how to self-regulate her emotions yeah that's huge oh um i wish we could all self exactly i know you might want to open that path up to the public right now and we should all take a stroll no you don't realize that that is a skill that's very challenging when you have a social disorder like autism is is the frustration of not being able to communicate the frustration of all these sensory things coming at you and how to handle them and and um the program that that she kind of runs is i mean i call it a program but it's just life it's it's just life exactly um it has really taught her how to reach out for help how to take a break how to relax how to call me how to write down things if she needs to remember it for later how to make you know but a skill set that really she never would have had yeah i love sx school district yeah sx school district um it's amazing i love them um you know i i actually brought her diploma with me in my bag because it just i look at it and i think you know this was not all for nothing exactly you know what i mean right like i did you ever think you were gonna see that diploma at times you must have thought i'm not gonna oh yeah i did but i didn't want it to go to waste and you know when you graduate from high school you're supposed to be graduating into a life plan of skills to move forward right and this can't be for nothing and exactly and as much as i wanted this to be done by the time she graduated getting close we're getting close we're getting close what about because we only have a minute or two left here so if you were to and you're in Greece a lot and back here but say you come back into town and you see somebody in the community what would be the best testimonial that you would love to hear from somebody regarding martha's barn what could somebody say or you overhear somebody say that would make your heart just more full than ever i don't think jan i need to hear from an adult of guests that would be wonderful and i'm sure i'll hear it but what wouldn't make me happy is to see other children be happy as martha is because we have seen her unhappy and in another institution right and we see how happy she is i would love to see other people with that same attitude of exactly of yes yes she's not perfect she has problems but that smile and that happiness in her whole being right sort of makes all the other stuff bearable bearable because we know deep down she's satisfied exactly content and happy and feels that love and everybody deserves with her surroundings and we have seen otherwise so this would make me very happy to see that kind of attitude and happiness in other children thank you so much thank you both but is there anything that you just wanted to say to wrap it up because we're as i said flew by we are it's a wrap so is there i mean i couldn't have done it without yeah yeah right oh and she won't let me thank her all the time but um there's a good chance i couldn't have done it without without her role modeling of business right without her role modeling of business my mom's role modeling of business and um and you have the very well established hardest working women women i've ever known are my mom and my my martha exactly yeah and i don't want to work as hard as you to tell you i'm already tired um you don't have to i tell my children they don't have to work in other generations the role models the role models i've had i have no choice i'm doing it i i'm gonna i'm gonna do the very best i can play then she's stepping up to the play um in in my capacity staying in my lane the best that i can i i want to fulfill this perfect and and we will absolutely without question with the help of the community next time we're on here and everyone yeah that's right we'll be showing you for videos of uh day at the barn yes perfect well thank you let's hope we'll do it for the barn we'll do it for the barn next time thank you so much okay having us okay okay thank you and we are all for the foundation thank you


All right good morning cyber traders welcome on back here this Tuesday June 8th shortly after 9 a.m. Eastern time welcome on back here for our Morning meeting here live inside cyber group great to see later Norman Randy Grand Ulver students and members alike inside our trading room great to see everybody It looks like you can hear me loud and clear from Ray and Debbie as well perfect And for all of us in social media welcome on back Facebook and YouTube live so without further ado We got a hop right into the thick of things because we ended up having such a strong close yesterday I got to talk about that I got to talk about the morning of course yesterday as well Well, you know what happened after just about you know 24 hours ago from this point yesterday So you know if you don't follow me here in the afternoons Then we'll recap what we ended up putting on our morning list from yesterday And then of course at the end we'll look to rescan the you know top percent gainers and losers list heading into the market Open so from yesterday, and I really will start off on the on this any XT trade It's up even more this morning in pre-market So it would have gotten to you know anyway, but this was more of like a late morning early afternoon type of play It was very choppy after the market opened up I forgot what the news you know was on this trade that led to the pre-market pop early after 7 a.m But then it was trending down going into the market open. So for that reason personally I'm expecting some more you know of a consolidation pattern to build first before the ultimate pop That's not a foolproof guarantee, but that's what would happen more often than not So ended up paying off here at least ended up avoiding this chop early on and more so heading into the late morning Like I said, this is where I ended up making my call out on this trade off the 320 level big iceberg order on the ask goes You know popping and dropping from there that 325 was like the top But once it broke over 320 here It ended up making a nice move up afterwards steady at least off the lows as it moved up towards just about 340-345 and then heading into the you know final 30 minutes the afternoon yesterday We ended up following this just as an afternoon trade ended up just popping higher So the theory is is to see a stock close at or near the highs at the end of the day Oftentimes you'll tend to see it move up more whether it be the after hours whether it be the pre-market the following morning Again not foolproof not not a hundred percent guarantee for anyone on YouTube and Facebook live That's not inside our live trading room. Don't just you know take that to heart and just do that the next time You see a stock at the highs that said though Well, we ended up seeing this make a nice little pop like pretty much after the close here at first Obviously the pullback, but man this ended up making a nice continuation early in pre-market here So this next trade most recently ended up breaking out above a resistance right off of $4 and 30 cents I'm actually going to show what we would call level for book map I know of course Fausto shows this when he does the meeting. We always like to show it when we have the chance Typically when I'm at my home office, it's it's home office It's kind of more of a circus act for me to bring this up at least but here I am Let's just show what happened at least off the pop We ended up seeing early buying on this trade prior to 8 a.m. Right off of 423 419 just in the build and then just out of nowhere going into 845 eastern time It ended up beginning to break out above resistance 425 initially and then you know iceberg order pulled from 430 So that's what led to this short squeeze up I'm hopeful to see continuation after after the market opens definitely going to put this on our watch list to begin No problem. Just doing that right away Again, we'll scan the gainers and losers list just you know in just a few moments here But man, I got to talk about another stock that ended up making a big move I mean there were a bunch of stocks that popped yesterday from our morning watch list afternoon list But the clove trade another one that's up even more this morning up about 25 to 28 percent right even more 36 percent She's I thought I thought it was 25 I guess when I was looking at it most recently was 35 not 25 But she's even more now up to 37 plus percent up higher this morning But let's talk about the move that we ended up catching more from yesterday We ended up seeing this stock make this consolidation pattern after the market opened up But shortly after kind of similar to the next trade this ended up making a nice trend off the lows as it broke higher So we ended up seeing the stock make a re break off of 10 And that's what allowed this stock to make the move that it made higher Of course this being one of the reddit plays you know the AMC blackberry bedbath beyond I could go down the list at this point With like 10 and a half million 11 million subscribers on that reddit channel wall street bets They're they're trading everything that we're calling out. Otherwise, we don't need them to make the call outs But when you see that kind of out there as a headline clove now being you know one of the more popular plays from that reddit community I mean we've seen history repeat itself just in the last week But go back to AMC and blackberry and you know express and so forth back from late January just when that started Go it goes to show that group mentality will kind of you know see a stock squeeze up a bit So you know this being a heavily shorted stock ended up making a really nice move up after the open broke out off that 10 level Like I'd said and heading into the afternoon this ended up making the squeeze back up going into the close I was really hopeful for the pop over 12 and it ended up making that move just there in the after hours Just as a trade heading into the close. I ended up doing a rare trade where I ended up buying this at like 1191 I thought there was a complimentary resistance at 1191 I was you know hoping and assuming for this to blow over 12, you know before the close I didn't want to turn it into a swing trade because that's not really what I was looking to do and God bless If I did it would have worked out handsomely this morning But once this ended up actually closing this led to a great after hours straight either way whether you're swing trading or Just gonna make it a day trade once it breaks above that 12 That's what allowed it to make the the free run up over 1250 and then ultimately over 13 and so on and so forth So the clove trade again just you know a stock from yesterday that we ended up doing really well on Stock from even last week and so forth. But today, obviously seemed to be said we're going to keep this on our list here Alright, let's keep the good times going. How about OCG yet from yesterday, huh? This was more of like a dump off going into the close Which was pretty disappointing but more so heading into the late morning and then into the afternoon this ended up being a great play once again I think this was just another reddit stock again And we're familiar with this stock as a COVID vaccine play just over the last several months So we've seen that make these big moves up there. They're normally easy to borrow So they're normally actually a really good short opportunity given the right moment given the right opportunity there But this morning they're hard to borrow, you know, hey for as much as it moved up yesterday It's not impossible for this to move even higher today But just be wary of that dump off just if the volume begins to wane off and what I mean by that is look at the volume Wane off here and obviously it broke out more later on but it was a long build up to it So when the volume dies off the momentum does when the momentum does often times the stock does and you know Obviously if it doesn't die off there's a chance for an afternoon break out later on once it re breaks above Resistance once there's more buying on the tape and you know just shows on the volume spikes here But you know again same to be said for this morning And you would hope to see history repeat itself Maybe see this make a slingshot down from 10 or a 990 price kind of where it dipped down to going into the close yesterday But again, OCG and another nice stock from yesterday that will just kind of like read to our list already All right I'm like looking down this list here and look at looking looking down the morning and afternoon watch list Practically everything that was on the list yesterday is moving here in pre-market I may as well just start from the top of the gainers list and just go down really I could just you know go down the gainers or go down the watch list from yesterday and go through them all like CLNE and Armed and BB of course and no work horse another reddit stock Of course that we've been trading and long before the reddit crowd picked that up We were trading it but you know, let's just start from the top here clove We already went over and then from here you got the warrants actually is the top percent gainer clove warrants Is your top percent gainer? So don't let that Distract you from this one. This is the equity. This is the class C stock But this is the one trading a lot more liquidity on the order of book a lot more, you know volume traded on this per minute So this is the one that we're following the warrant is clove w Very similar move mind you but you know just with lack of liquidity if clove itself has a major drop-off It's gonna make for a drop-off here and this will be harder to get out of so You know, I wouldn't be too interested in the warrant this morning S O N M interesting play here. So in them technologies, it's a cheapy I know I'm normally not too big into the cheapies, but nice a nice move up And I say that you know because this is below a dollar This isn't like a penny stock mind you But it's just that these stocks below a dollar normally do not make as clean or swift of a move that would be as You know easy to capitalize on so on this yes, you could trade several thousand shares like ten twenty thousand shares No, no problem, but otherwise just once the volume dies off You just don't want to be stuck hoping and holding on to ten twenty thousand shares of any stock Regardless of price.  I'm probably not gonna focus on it as much this morning. That's right The when trade WEN was yeah, that was gonna say is this Wendy's WEM Wendy's so Wendy's trading higher Amid increased retail investor interest in the stock that doesn't really seem too specific on news That's the last headline that I have here That's the only thing that I have on this Wendy's trade what WEN says when trading higher amid increased retail investor interest in the stock So, you know, it goes to show and there doesn't need to be like a really, you know Creative strong headline for a stock to make a big move. Maybe Benzinga Pro here slacking on the real headline Who knows but nonetheless, I mean for the meantime WEN we talked about this early before I started the morning meeting You know, it was myself that you've mentioned it our students were the first one to comment on it This stock had a crazy spread this thing had thin volume on the order book So, you know, of course, you know, you're dropping back down You could get out on this trade and not really take a huge hit based on the spread But based on how fast the stock moved up, you know You got to expect the stock to begin to pull back down not to say completely But if it does well, you're gonna get stuck catching the following knife. So to say there Latest says Kramer made a comment. She thinks That would normally pop up on this year too. All right. Well, either way not really too reliable is that guy Kramer So, you know WEN just given the volatility. I'll put it on our list You know for any of our level four to five traders out there that that do really well on a stock like this then Look to follow it. Give it a give it a shot All right, CYRN here another cheapy this one not nearly making as good of a move at least compared to the last one PDSB Popped early after 8 a.m. Kind of thin volume it popped from and you know pulled back I don't really know not really too interested in that just yet AYTU this is a stock that we are familiar with and unfortunately now it's for the wrong reasons This stock has been more of a tease now than anything But this stock ended up making some big moves for us back last year back in March and April with all the You know vaccine talks initially, you know, INO's SR&E, Sorrento, VXRT, Vaxert and you know AYTU this was this was another one that ended up making a big push at that time But you could just see on the daily chart Just you know from let at the end of last year pop and drop type play and then here Ended up making a big or decent run up But then following that big pop and then drop back down pretty sharp after so this stock's been more of a tease recently But you know good volume on the order book trading a lot of volume this morning already 1.7 million shares practically stock trades about 430,000 shares on average a day. So, you know, that's a lot already compared to what it does on an average basis It's got a 23 million share float. So it's not terribly low I'll put it on our list, you know, give it a shot. Hopefully it does make another You know move back up But the way this is trending here on the way down leading into the open I would perhaps expect this to make a consolidation pattern first and then hopefully again hope starts the you know belief But otherwise, you know, if it doesn't continue to build up or if the volume just continues to wane down without a breaking resistance I would just move on to another trade after the open should that happen But we'll put this on our list. We're familiar with the stock at least This lots trade unfortunately is Basically making the move that I was expecting it to make and you know It's still possible for this to move up after the market opens But this actually had a nice gap to fill you see the gap here on the daily chart Unfortunately, I ended up filling it practically already. I mean it went to you know Hi this morning pre-market hive six dollars and forty cents. You could just pretty much snap the line right here Roughly around 645 643 ish, you know give or take and again, it's not to say it's impossible to see this move up Higher it definitely is possible, but you know in pre-market at least ended up backing off right from 640 itself Volume died off, you know, it's holding strong for right now Keep this on the side Maybe I'll come back to this at the very end and just you know add this here at least it's shortable So if it does drop, maybe we can try and short it from there See what else we got though Stitch fix SFIX I think right. I don't know if this was off of earnings my belief would be s Either way pretty out of range for a lot of us and in the trading room Hi, bbi gene. I squeezed early in the morning here after eight o'clock I was I didn't put this on the pre-market list here early, but I was considering it I was considering it then it ended up making the push We ended up seeing a resistance at the time off of five dollars and ten cents Let me just get book map up here pretty quickly once again And I'll just show this again for a couple more stocks But on the bbi G trade for right now it broke about five Ended up building up to five ten not much resistance at first and an order popped up in which it failed to break out higher from So it shook back down pretty quick There were a couple of orders on the bid looking to squeeze this stock up And it seems like once it ended up breaking through volume that was on the bid after that's what led to this sharp drop off So, you know, I'm gonna put this on our list. I guess for right now Actually, you know what I'm selling myself off that I'm gonna put it on the side next to lots Come back to this at the end just giving this drop off here if it continues to break down I'm not gonna be as interested compared to probably some of the others. So, you know, I'm a little particular this morning I want to see what else we got first IGC this one looking pretty weak here. I mean, you know, if it pops after the open that would be very interesting to try and call Out and trade, you know, we talked about this yesterday afternoon I wasn't as hopeful for this to make its big pop going into the close yesterday, but You know today, it's definitely possible to see continuation. There's not much of a trend going on here, right? So we're gonna skip over this even though I kind of like the stock Go ad look at this thing try and continue to move up You know talk about a gap fill this thing has been like through the spin cycle up and down all over the place The last week ended up making a big pop in pre-market to squeeze all the way up towards like 16 16 50 where it opened You know broke down and then I think news came out in the afternoon This wasn't like an instant drop But ended up dropping off just for as much as it moved up that pre-market and then I think news came out It could have been a common stock offering if I'm not mistaken Actually, I know I'm right on that. I think they priced it at like 225 that I could be wrong on the the exact price But nonetheless, that's what led to a huge drop on this trade and from there Wow, it ended up beginning to squeeze up just yesterday and this morning it looks pretty strong here So the GOED definitely going to put this on the main list Not the side list the main list here at least, you know Good spread good volume on the order book nice trend after eight o'clock and you know, it hasn't dropped off too much since and holding strong So, you know, hopefully we'll see this continue to you know, try and fill the gap All right workhorse another big name here I just want to put on the pre-market list really active this morning You know again the quote-unquote reddit stocks all seem to be moving and up this morning So AMC was building up to a resistance off of 5850 BB Blackberry has been squeezing up really nicely since 8 o'clock this morning So for right now definitely I'm just gonna you know put workhorse and BB on our list Very heavily traded and again, you know They're likely to follow in suit with AMC perhaps is that's now like one of the leaders in terms of the reddit trades You know to each their own or not to each their own but for each stock to be their own So to say in the sense of breaking through volume on the bitter the ask, you know, they're trending similarly But they're not trending exactly the same So you're gonna have correlation if you have a huge move up or down on AMC But otherwise though, you might happen to see clove be stronger at one point in time You might happen to see Blackberry be stronger at one point in time They're all different stocks and they're not going to you know be exactly the same But they will correlate off of stronger moves up or down They're likely to follow AMC and a game stop in that regard So for right now Blackberry and workhorse will we'll add to our list cloves already on there And F cells been on fire this morning, too, huh? And you just see the stock this was more for like EV You know as an EV play this plug and a lot of others in that sector But ended up making a huge run back at the end of 2020 ended up dumping off early on here So just given the range up and down in such a short amount of time It provides great opportunity given news coming out or whatever the case may be that leads to more activity early in pre-market And that's what we're getting here best part of all if this ends up dumping off Then of course this is shortable So this would be a good short if things fall off at least but for right now holding strong over Former resistance off of 1225 ish year You know perhaps will dip down there prior to the open build support probably dip down at 12 after the open So you know watch out for 12 as a big support level maybe even an 1190 after the market opens up But definitely F cell will put you know definitely on the top of our list here at the end of it all All right, let's see what else we got you AVS another familiar name Not a whole lot going on here in pre-market pretty flat probably dropped down a six and eight You know begin to make its move from there. Ooh Dg a watch has popped after nine o'clock nice So let's just go to Benzinga pro on this just check the news on this DGL wide trade We only have about 11 minutes before the market opens. I got to make this fast I don't know how Fausto does this for anyone on social media. I appreciate you sticking with me. He does this fast He's good. I got to make these faster because I want to make sure that we have enough time to prep going into the open But nonetheless DGL wide trading hire circulating an article from the Wall Street Journal US mandates body cameras for federal law enforcement officers. All right, so We're not gonna you know talk about our opinions on the topic But the headline out that's as to why this stock is making a huge move up So for the meantime definitely gonna put this on our list. Hopefully to see this make another run after the open All right, I'll tell you right now. We have such a good list already I'm probably just gonna scrap the lots trade and the big trade the BB IG and the ones I kind of put on the side Let's see what else we got on the losers list when I did my prep this morning I ran down the losers list a couple times there really wasn't much so I don't want to you know look lazy with just kind of skimming through here, but You know right and Mara I think are hard to borrow this morning cannons down with Bitcoin also I'll show Bitcoin when I do the afternoon meeting. I have more time there Bitcoin ended up dropping off a lot more after I ended up going over it yesterday when I talked about it yesterday afternoon I was saying, you know, it wasn't really down that much and cannon was down big right and Mara We're not down as much as cannon was but going into the clover after the market closed yesterday We ended up seeing Bitcoin make a bit more of a drop. So that's what's leading to see riot down 5% Mara down the same Cannon short of all of them all it's the only stock I kind of even wrote down on the losers column this morning when I did my prep But this is like an ugly chart here not really too much going on otherwise So, you know unless if you're following that as a play with the market or with Bitcoin in particular, I would just pass All right, so folks Let me know if there's anything else up down left right more than 5% anything that I it was maybe just ignorant of that You know, it looks good in your opinion or something that I just missed that's making a huge pop or drop just right now Let me know Jorge says to Ray, which I love checking out. I love to raise a stock Ended up following it from yesterday at least this morning. It's just you know, pretty volatile per and I volatile very active I should say trading almost a million shares in pre-market this morning great volume on the order book So it's a it's a great sideless stock or hey, I'm not gonna put this on the main list You know in the special main list going into the open But this is definitely one where if you do well on day to day you watch this stock and do well on it If not day to day week then week to week I would definitely look to follow this stock then in that case Otherwise if not then you know, hey just I would stick with the watch list there There's a lot to go around this morning. So, you know, if there's a stock, I don't put on the main list But if it looks good in your opinion and again if you do well on it more often than not week over week Let's say then definitely look to follow it going into the open clove pop a clove pop and drop Unfortunately right back down under that 1650 level. So I'd be really careful on that going into the open from that price From Norman the ah t-trade this one is up just about 6% didn't find it on the gainer side here I was just kind of you know growing going down quick. Ah, there it is number 48 There we go, but a nice trend, right? I mean hey, it's up. It's cheap good spread Out of you know, what we're looking at so far at least I do like this the ah t-trade All right, I think that just about does it from Andrew M on YouTube. Good morning. I didn't see that comment till right now All right, so folks, I think that just about does it folks I think we're good to go going into the open how many to be out here We had two four six eight ten eleven stocks to work with I usually like to max out at 12 no more So, you know what not too bad for all of us in social media. 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