so that That public health interest is being served a second one that was raised in prior discussion was that if there's a co-location Criteria for the co-location to keep the two entities going strongly, but separately so that the needs of each individual population seeking assistance are both met and not impinged by the other and The third is really implicit in all of our licensing that we've been doing with alcohols And so we might as well look back on our experiences is to make sure that if there is a violation of a Provision either locally derived or statewide derived like the age limit being the most obvious That we have is clear authority left to our licensing authority Or to Suspend the license if there's a failure to adhere To that provision even if it's provision that's by state law and not by our own doing So I feel like we're back at the beginning of the circle because One of the things we're still having trouble teasing out is the difference between what these terms Meet not those criteria, which are very clear But what these terms mean in terms of what we're calling licensing and what we're calling criteria for a host community Agreement and what we're calling contents of a host community agreement So I would argue that Some of the things that have been discussed Are things that mr. Bachman has indicated he would can With guidance from us would entertain as being This is why I would sign this host community agreement versus a different host community agreement Not that those things would necessarily be in the host community agreement For example, I don't have any idea how we would calculate potential economic impact But what unless it was more specific around jobs or particular Lot that was going to generate particular taxes, but I don't need to figure that out right now But that is the kind of thing that arguably Could be something that would be more of a checklist That the town manager would be looking at would obviously have been communicated to the economic development director and would be Do you meet? You know three or five of these things that I'm going to be more likely to want to pursue a host community agreement with you that's not a local licensing process and so a local licensing process in particular sounds like it goes with The violations issue and I know Board of Health has expressed some interest in having Inspections although whether or not they have the bandwidth and resources to do additional inspections is always the question of course But they have it has been made clear in the law that you can have additional Local Board of Health inspections associated with certain things the food complication being slightly aside so In and it's but if we send an enforcement You know similar to when we had problems with a liquor licensee, which we don't see very often for some reason that ABCC sometimes hands down liquor license violations But we have done very few here locally and so if we did something like that like revoked up if we had a license we could revoke it if we don't have a license we can't revoke it and so does that become Something that's housed within the Board of Health or is that something that's in the licensing Authority like us or the future licensing Commission and then are those things like you know Economic development minority owned and things things that we would give credit to your local residents being preferentially hired Would those be criteria as to whether or not to consider and and how would the town manager apply those I think Versus you would an applicant would come and tell the local licensing authority. They were planning to do those things I'm we're just not sure what that mechanism would look like and which of those things is which Which column it fits under? So I think at this point I'm thinking about sort of what we we should think about regarding next steps I think that obviously we're not In order we intend to have some definitive sort of vote on something this evening I don't think but I think and and I do want to come back to the topic of letters of support non-opposition And and to that topic it's by itself But I think with regard to the the concept of local licensing. I mean, I think what I'm hearing as far as just to you know that there's some Since we should move in that direction and and try to articulate that pretty well and and I think how it interplays with you know sort of violation enforcement and host community agreement Components, I mean those are all sort of intertwined in some ways and we'll probably have to start to draw the lines between those But I'm thinking about what as a board what we want to think about from the from a next step standpoint So so I I think I have three takeaways one is Herbalogy schedule Licensing start to pursue what that looks like and host community agreements come up with criteria that you can look at So I think that you know those are certainly certainly there What I would also suggest is that as as each of us and certainly if the public wants to offer Suggestion to us they're welcome at any time but I think when we as board members are thinking about the distinguishing pieces between You know, what are things for licensing versus one of the things that we want you to include in a host community agreement, you know And start thinking about those concrete things We've had a few mentioned tonight, but I'm sure there's others that will want to think about a little bit and start to compile our lists and if they want to send those to the manager or to mr. Kravitz or you know We should start to do that now because you know to to try to think more deeply about that and Over a little bit of time. I think it's better than just trying to come over them on the fly Mr. Steinberg yeah, I do think that it's very important that we structure our thinking about Who is going to monitor enforcement of the license of state law and Who's going to take action as a result and I Now I'm reflecting on what I have heard about problems with alcohol enforcement and the Commonwealth that ABCC Carries on a large part of the charge But is not really adequately funded and adequately staffed to really do the kind of job that we probably would ideally like to see them do and Then it falls on local police to sort of backstop where ABCC Just has reached the limit of its ability. So we want to make sure that There's a process since we don't know if there's going to be Significant enforcement by CCC the Cannabis Control Commission at this point So we do need to be prepared to make sure that if there is not that our local police have the ability to Monitor and that we have a mechanism to deal with violations Miss Gravitz, please. I just wanted to add You know, it's it's the end of June now and I know that revenue is not the primary concern. It's you know, a Responsible and safe rollout but I'd be remiss if I didn't point out that that the price of marijuana in Colorado over the first two years declined significantly all the counties that Ban marijuana sales Switched around and did not make nearly as much money as those that had originally allowed it and I'm just Thinking about the timeline and is this could this potentially become a political issue in the races as we get closer to the elections? I Don't know what else is on the select board agenda, but I'm just saying I could see it I could also see the Council when they take over Are probably going to be spending the first few months getting settled in and then immediately going into the budget. So this isn't gonna, you know, I Don't know how high on their agenda Moving along a licensing authority or ensuring that licensing happened so You know, I don't know I'm just I I don't know that we've given and I'm again that that's not necessarily the point but I don't know that that we've given the Business interest in the room any sort of clarity coming out of this discussion that at some point soon They're probably gonna have to make a business decision of whether or not they want to continue to pursue something in Amherst and unless we have a clear path forward Relatively shortly, I don't know how that's gonna work. So Well, I would suggest I'm gonna express my opinion all offer, you know an opportunity the others and on the board but I think that I Certainly, you know understand respect to the urgency and I'm less concerned about town revenue I'm being a not but I mean it's not the primary focus, but but I think at the same time we understand I certainly understand the the the more we delay and The difficulty it puts businesses in to make good business decisions and there gets to be a point where they just have to move on and make Their own decisions relative to that but but I my own thinking was that you know As we said earlier the conversation is the need for this to happen relatively soon It's pretty important because I think a we overly advantage Medical facilities that have a quicker path through the CCC if we don't have it in place in some reasonable way But I also think just you know as a as as miss Gruver said being a welcoming community to the to the idea of Doing this and trying to do it. Well, so I think From my point of view, I mean, I think we're we're still a little Early Because we're still trying to get our heads around exactly how we want to sort of shape this a little bit But I think we're gonna try to do that to my mind. I certainly want to do that fairly quickly You know because I think for a variety of reasons, you know our own self-interest But also in in the interest of of that, you know business community and wanting them having Clear rules to operate within because that's critical for them So in my mind, I think Mr. Bachman's three points as takeaways make sense, but I don't think we said Definitively we're not gonna go any further till we have all the licensing. I'll figure it out That's kind of an add-on and we can address it in those agreement You shall participate if we have that but I don't think we were saying we're gonna wait till we get that piece I'll figure it out before we're gonna go ahead and Use a criteria based Release of some host agreement. So I'm a little surprised because of mr. Kravis's memo For b it says delaying additional retail marijuana establishments until such a Time as the town develops and implements a local licensing process is a prudent course of action because of the significant Interest Emerson's received by potential recreational marijuana retail operators that it seems a little contradictory to what you just said I don't disagree with what you just said about if we make it to take too long or too arduous that could have some Detrimental impacts, but here you argue that because we don't have the licensing we shouldn't act but doesn't that memo say that we would allow the medical to be Co-located with recreational so we would have the revenue from recreational establishments What I'm what I'm worried about is we're saying we're not doing anything until we have license okay, but okay So if we say we're not we're not we're not preference We're not at least what I hear from this group We're not we're not going with part a in your part b says therefore Wait till you get the licensing before you do any more in addition to the potential for but So if we take that first part out Then I would say don't take the second part I wanted to be clear because I was a premise Don't do anything else to your licensing, but just do the four and we're saying well, maybe not just before so therefore not bad either okay So that that was my understanding to beyond the fact that it was what I wanted I think it was also what we agreed is that we are not following one memo, which is that we are not giving preference to the medical and that's that's As of this moment no longer a criteria at this time As opposed to what it says here, which is what mr. Brackam and said he's following for right now We are not giving them preference in terms of Again, I'm belaboring this because I'm not sure we're getting the difference is that talking about criteria That are in the host community agreement as in you will do a thing. You will provide maybe it's a Way of dealing with the educational materials, for example, you put that in the host community agreement Versus economic impact that some amazing rubric is developed That's not going to be in the host community agreement more than likely that's going to be more of a criteria of whether or not The town manager is willing to sign a host community agreement and that can all be done Separately while we're continuing to talk about the enforcement piece the part about the licensing So we don't have to hold anything up for the licensing per se as long as We feel like for example We don't have to hold anything up for our licensing process if what we're saying can happen in the meantime is one We are not giving medical preference to we are going to develop very quickly some criteria as to What you host community agreement? We would enter we would have town manager entertain signing based on the kinds of values We've expressed tonight as being important values some of which may not end up being Delineated within the agreement, but that was the idea behind why those have a preference and so I Think we can talk about the enforcement piece like not like a really long time from now But at a future time because one of the other things that came up in talks with the CCC and formally is that in terms of Interpreting their sentences about municipal requirements and local rules regulations ordinances and bylaws I said you do understand that we do things with liquor licensing for example That are regulations not bylaws. They're not zoning bylaws They're not general bylaws the regulations and they said yeah, sure. That's fine. You can do that so the council could pass ordinances That say things that the licensing authority will do but in the absence of them having signed any ordinances The having passed any ordinances the local licensing authority could go ahead and make up regulations Just like we've been attempting to make up regulations associated with alcohol So I mean it's not like the council they have to wait for the council. They can work Independently on this it would just and so that's one of the reasons it would be nice to give them something to start with as well But again, I still think the licensing part of it can be worked on at the same time We're trying to move forward with giving people clearer ideas So I agree with that. I think but I think the licensing Endeavour is a pretty significant undertaking. It's not gonna happen overnight.  There's hundreds so I think there is some market sensitivity that that I'm sensitive to I think that there's a rational approach to to saying and I appreciate the feedback that Because you have a medical facility doesn't give you a leg up or an automatic Buy-in to his community green but it is My inclination is that we would want to issue a couple of host community agreements sooner than later And then phase phase them in over time. I think that's a rational approach. I think that's Where we need to be as a community and we need to you know talk about the public safety public health about it What what needs to be what would those things look like but to you know, a lot of communities are stalling You know or or put a moratorium on on on this and I think there is gonna be it like that actually buys us some time I think and then In the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, but I think where we are as a community is that we are looking to implement this rational Not not rushed to to to implement them, but to get it moving and get some some Licenses out there, so I think we'll Leave that there for now, but I do think there's a bit of a conversation we need to have about the letters of support and non-opposition and answer of The point was bro raised earlier about sort of our criteria around those And what we're thinking about Relative those I think our other conversation plays into that, but I do think it's important for us to We can articulate sort of how we view those now Versus how we viewed them Two years ago or whatever That was earlier this evening, but But I but anyway, so I do want to have a little bit of a conversation about that I don't know that it has to be a long conversation per se, but I do think we should Frame that a little bit because I think you know what I've heard tonight is that from an agenda standpoint we should Take up the topic relative to the folks from urology, and I think that's fair to them as well But I also want to give them a frame with which we're trying to view that Conversation partly for our own sake But also an opportunity to give them a chance to repair appropriately So if anyone wants to offer Some suggestion about how they see the these letters of Support or non opposition at this point given the changes that have occurred When happens when we tire us out So one of the things that helps me Actually is something we already agreed to which is the idea that we would not Automatically Give the leg up on getting a host community agreement locally So we understand that the state has established its own process about saying if you have medical You jump to the head of the line for getting your recreational application approved I Don't agree with what the state did but that doesn't matter because that's what the state did But since we locally have just established I believe that we are not giving that additional leg up at the local level as well. I feel less conflicted about Medical at this point in the process because again for the thousandth time we wanted medical to open three years ago We finally have one we thought we were going to potentially have up to four although I don't think we all really thought it was all can actually work out for all those places As they were building and buying etc So we wanted medical Town wanted medical years ago. We've only got one and that's great. I don't know at this point that we Need to make another medical Letter happen in order for recreational to happen because those two are not necessarily connected And we're not necessarily giving priority and we aren't giving priority locally to people who already have it on the other hand People have you know invested in a process and so I don't know how we decide at this point earlier on It was easier because we could just say sure we don't know what we're doing go ahead and figure it out You've seemed to have met all the criteria We don't have any reason to say no. We figure the market will sort you out. Please somebody start selling medical That's why I'm frustrated now because I don't I appreciate you saying what you did about the frame because I don't want to put Another applicant through the process of saying well, we don't know what we want and so how do we decide? I Think for me around the medical I mean I think I think back to what we we looked at before and that was you know, certainly There were certain things that that were presented in varying forms from the from the different applicants, but you know how they're you know So I think I would I would be judging sport non-opposition based on the same kind of frame that I would take to it As in the past which was independent of the adult use and so, you know, what is their?  What's their? You know process for you know Transport and security materials Advising clients on use and and support around that Those kind of things because I think you know if we're gonna if The host acute community agreement for recreational is entirely separate process, and I think we'll have different criteria for that Then then I think I sort of fall back on what was what was I thinking about with regard to the the medical at the time? And so I'm gonna think in those same terms. It's like well. Are they being a good medical provider? As if it were any other medical facility if we had this level of control over pharmacies What are you know? What's our expectation around that? You know and and I think given that you know again I think we're still in the same place we were before which is in some respects Given that one is all that's opened of the of the before we've dealt with I think that you know the market will Do what the market does as far as sorting out did we oversubscribe on medical? I don't you know that hasn't the case so far We've got one I doubt that that's the entirety of the medical market in our town So I think that will will sort itself So I don't think it Especially relative to medical. I don't think it is a is a circumstance where Will be a wash in it In a way that we'd be concerned that it's being abused in some way I don't see that happening so I'm I'm thinking I'm gonna use the same kind of criteria and thought process I used before which is you know, are they a good medical facility? Are they gonna you know, are they taking that part of it? Seriously, are they treating their patients? Well, are they trying to care for people that are struggling with with you know medical conditions that are Chronic or extraordinarily a painful or both, you know in a way that's sensitive and and matches the values that I think people wanted when when they were You know supportive of medical marijuana to begin with so I'm gonna kind of use the same frame Personally I think but I'm curious of what other people think around that This topic I want to push back on that after they talk well Being the one who voted who didn't vote yes on the Happy Valley application And I sort of have to get like back as to why I didn't vote yes on that application they have to having voted yes on three others and I think that some of the criteria that I was concerned about was that Zoning says what it says, but that didn't require us to issue letters of support just because zoning allowed it and it seemed that the proximity to two other establishments That were potentially and I thought more than potentially I thought likely to be there because I thought that there was a real interest in know these they have gone ahead and And continued on the process including ZPA special permits, so it's gone all the way through so I did think about that aspect of it I thought about the fact that there's a proposal to build mixed use housing directly across the street and the question of how that factored in and How that was playing against the zoning rule and sort of this question of You know once you've given the letter Can you then pull it back as a sort of the first first use out of the gate and that whole set of questions as a little bit uncomfortable the fact that We didn't know what was going to happen with Legalization of recreational marijuana and what kinds of additional rights would be given To the establishments and we have a little bit I said little bit of Clarification on that issue So I agree that I would look at the same kinds of questions that I looked at before I think that there's others that I'm not sure But I think about them that sure that they're appropriate or not. I have to almost get some legal counsel to know On some things whether we could whether they can be officially criteria that we could Consider as we make the decision It's pretty good. I think I want to take each application, you know separately on its own merits Although I will admit as we heard the first couple. I'm not sure we really knew what we were looking at There's a lot of presentation and not a lot of our ability to Decipher the the depth or sincerity So we get you know a very nice presentation or a pause present presentation, I think I Like the idea of having other criteria when it comes to issuing the post-community agreement So I think it gives us that but I'm interested in hearing more Applicants and see if they are persuasive So my pushback is what is persuasive mean, so I totally understand a specific criteria like Because because we did have this very special situation where the zoning allowed for it We'd planned for that center. That was great But we really had carte blanche as far as we knew to decide on yes a letter of support or opposition or not and Unlike for example, if we decide not to give out a liquor license We have to have some certain types of justifications other types of justifications ABCC that the community might think are very justified ABCC has Said are not there wasn't case law. There wasn't regulation around there weren't opinion letters That had been provided by someone that said oh, you can't judge it on this you can judge it on that so it's still just a made-up thing at this point is what it comes down to and the reason I was I got the part about being concerned about a Proximity, you know because even though the zoning by-law says X about proximity That can also be a value of the community as well again because ABC We don't have a group like ABCC is telling us you can't just say that liquor store will compete with that liquor store Therefore you don't want it or you don't want too many liquor stores close together You you can't just say no for that reason we could say no for that reason for Medical letters of support or not opposition. I'm not saying we should I'm not saying that's the list We should go down, but we do have more but the fact that we have more flexibility means we also don't necessarily have criteria And so at one point during one of those conversations We are presentations conversations amongst ourselves. There was some discussion about whether or not somebody was actually the kind of nonprofit They were presenting themselves as and I got very frustrated with that because I didn't really think that was ours to decide but again Whether or not they are sincere in their desire to help medical patients. I did that. How do I quantify that? I mean, they are going to they have met a ton of requirements Working through the state as nonprofit as having certain types of medical personnel available to do certain types of things Will they go above and beyond will they say they'll go above and beyond? I just I've still got nothing to work with other than gut I all I'm hearing is gut and if that's all we've got then I guess that's all we've got but I'm not gonna try and re-judge the same things the state judges because they've already been through that and the state's Done a lot more of those than we have in terms of ferreting out whether or not somebody's really a nonprofit or whether or not Somebody really understands the security requirements We don't have additional security requirements unless we establish them. So I'm still lost I'd agree, but I think we've also heard, you know, there's there we've gotten just to the security question I think we've gotten different Explanations of how they choose to approach that So there's a level of specificity that we've gotten from some of the organizations Relative to how they're going to do that and that provides again a comfort or discomfort level with us Which again influences our opinion about whether to give or not give a lot of support on opposition So I think you're right. I think it is a Disatisfying process a lot of ways because we don't have a sort of you know, measurables per se that we've articulated. I'm not sure we can There are a number of measurables obviously the state has gone through with regard to its requirement and process and in some ways That should provide us a certain level of comfort, but but maybe not depending on our faith in the state system but you know, it's it's You know, there are you know, it's kind of like when we're enforcing You know, we've had hearings about enforcement of of you know violations of liquor laws, you know What's the right penalty? You know, we've we've had to do that kind of freelance as well I think we're we're still operating within that there's not a long history of sort of this is kind of what people have done or not done or these are kinds of things that you know our our You know the sort of metrics that people have used and in regard to that So I think we will in some ways, you know be Hanging our hat on our own judgment and and trying to you know Express in our meeting with our questions that the kinds of things were concerned about and Hopefully providing a Sense of due diligence to the community that we you know trying to Extract not extract from them, but you know get some reassurance from from from them that that they've you know met some some level of of Effort and thought about these kind of things, you know if you ask a certain question, and there's no answer whatsoever I mean that could be a deal-breaker. It's like you know if you ask I can't think about question I've thought my head, but I mean, you know, it's like You know, are you going to have? closer to monitoring of you know the vault You know if they said oh, we never thought of that that would be really problematic for me, but you know, that's Quick example of something, but you know, it's not that it expressly required by the state That was certainly maybe maybe not so I think that there are you know Ways in which we can get to a sense of of comfort with or discomfort with you know providing a letter Even if we don't have this as robust of processes. We really all like I think Well, just I think sometimes because this is new and we're trying to do this really thoughtfully Maybe overthinking some of this so we don't know how many medical Establishments the market can support and as long as we have some base criteria Which essentially is is provided by the state and maybe our gut feeling or you know show your face tell us who you are We want to know who you are in our community a Lot of this is going to be figured out in the permitting With the ZBA because they're going to have specific conditions possibly the license as another enforcement tool. I We're going to have to put a foot in the water and try some of these and I'm expecting They're not all going to last that there's going to be a sort of market level at some point where no We can't support eat medical or maybe not even four, but we don't really know and so To act like or sort of ZBA setting all these conditions might I mean I'm beginning maybe because I'm tired now. I don't feel well I think we might be overthinking this and so for me I'm willing to let some of these go and see how they do and I think the market's going to make some decisions about Who's the best place to go to get the kind of service? I want when I have a medical condition and we can't necessarily figure that all out up front Ask another question. Yes so one of the things that you brought up and then I know has come up in other conversations is the idea that is that is not as As I understand state law not as strict in the state regulations about Providing the privacy for a medical patient Whereas there have been other places that have just basically put a tape line down and said this is the aisle This is the express lane so to speak This is the medical line and this is the adult use line and like there's no Treatment as though it's it's more like CVS than it is like a concierge doctor So I mean there there are differences there and so it I don't know if that's something we can Encourage the ZBA at some point to include in their conditions And if that's where part of our conversation and ends up going especially as I have a note here to remind us to Send letter to questions to mr. Backelman for mr. Mora it or he can decide if they're for mr Mora or for mr. Kravitz or whatever Ahead of our july 9th meeting when mr. Mora said he can be here If that's the kind of thing that because the slept board doesn't normally say to the ZBA that we appoint All these are the things we think you ought to think about that doesn't usually happen Maybe this is enough of an odd situation where we do think that's appropriate But is that maybe the kind of thing that you're talking about asking people so like the vault thing that it's not required by law But it gives you a sense of what Their intentions are in a way that Isn't just they already jumped through all those hoops with the state So I'll just raise The fact that you won't I don't think have the opportunity to ask recreational marijuana establishments how they're Monitoring their vaults. So is it is it about the medical stuff? I'm just you know So I just bring up the point that this isn't the there isn't an opportunity for Recreational establishments, and I don't know how that plays in or not But are you holding the medical ones to a higher standard and is should you be or vice versa? Do we put that as part of the licensing process, but Just a point we've talked about this before we have a number of licensed pharmacies in town that have controlled substances and we don't Seem to have the same level of concern about their security because this is new putting all these layers on And again There's a lot of other dangerous things happening and we don't put this level of scrutiny on and I'm not saying we shouldn't care about that But in the special permit, they're gonna have to have a security plan. It's gonna have to meet certain criteria So it will be hard except the gut feeling to ferret out Do we want to go ahead or not? But it may just come down to how we vote and you know when our Fifth member comes back from Prague, although I'm not sure The whole dynamic you might have a whole different other take but I think if we could I'm also feeling we for the first time We you know we have somebody who's taking notes for us And they're gonna end up with carpal tunnel if we don't end up if we don't end this discussion soon because this is good really Right going on for quite a while, right? So I think you know we Kind of made this sausage here a little bit tonight, and so that's the way it goes. I think in summer sex, but I think it For me anyway, it's really clarified what I want to think about between now and and our next meeting relative to What and how I would approach this and and that may evolve a bit over the ensuing week or two So you know unless we have anything else we want to comment relative to this I think we should let mr. Kravitz go and perhaps our other guests are ready to go as well and and Unless there's some next steps that someone wants to mention relative to this specifically I mean we've got so we'll send comments to mr. Buckleman and he'll sort out Right if certainly on the on the early talking about your licenses and those community agreements and and that sort of stuff Certainly. Yeah, absolutely. I think that's the right thing to do is and to him and prepare Those to go to either this more Mr. Kravitz appropriately So we'll think of things over the you know ensuing days that Could help inform us for our continued conversations about this. So, yes So thank you very much all for being patient Bring us out. So next on our agenda. This is topic of a carrying Throwing around the idea. We have to come back to the by-laws Committee, right? Yes. We do but you were saying I was just saying do we have anything on the charter transition? Thank you, mr. Chair the Legislature the House and Senate have engrossed the bill and that means they they've passed it now It's on the governor's desk for him to sign. He has 10 days to sign I know the governor we've been in contact. I've been in contact with the governor's office two people in the governor's office And they are doing their due diligence on the bill They have actually made an independent inquiry to our town clerk to get some information about deadlines for Denomination for about for the candidates and things like that. So It seems that they're paying attention to it and they're on it. So I'm looking forward to hopefully Having the governor sign it and then relatively near future great Hurray, yeah, just just because it settles the question. Yes, that's the you know independent people's thoughts about the project but So are there any other does anyone else have anything relative to the charter transition that we need to bring up this evening No, if not, then let's go back to the committee boards appointments and reappoints and in the topic Mr. Steinberg brought up earlier relative to the to the question on on the bylaw review committee So if you'd be so kind Obviously if anybody from this board or anyone else has People to suggest they should do so Because we still are Looking but in any event we do have this one recommendation from a current member of Board the committee that we did appoint and That recommendation is somebody Who is not a resident of the town of Amherst but is a resident of an adjoining town But According to the pitch that was given to me, obviously somebody with strong credentials and I think the question is Do we think it appropriate to even consider the issue and Is there any guidance that Is if the This this select board says no we don't want to consider anybody is not a resident of the town then we shouldn't even bother to Go any further with that right review, I have to say I'm a little uncomfortable with it personally because I think that you know it is There are some aspects of that review committee that are really pretty straightforward sort of stuff, but there are aspects that require some Some interpretation and some nuance and I think Having Someone from outside of town do that is makes me a little uncomfortable It's not that they're not entirely capable of coming to the exact same place somebody from town would come from but I think it it could be I Think it could end up being problematic if if something were controversial and then you know the the idea of of Someone's you know Bias or non bias, you know might come into play relative to them being not a resident so I see it as a little Problematic, but that's that's my own opinion. I don't know if the others have similar thoughts or not. I mean, there's some ether or I mean I I Have some discomfort, but I don't know if it's sort of rational It's like I would rather it be somebody but I also don't want to take too long because the committee had gotten going They're enthusiastic and they really need that third member and we've tossed out names You know amongst ourselves and tried to recruit and it's it's hard. It's been hard a hard sell We're looking for a particular skill set and temperament If it's someone who's willing to roll up their sleeves and is known to one of the committee members you know I I don't want to wait too much longer And so I would I would accept my discomfort with that person if we're gonna be weeks out without somebody It's not really an answer right So having had at least four people turn me down Two more recently another that I forwarded along to mr. Steinberg who's since turned us down It is a very specialized sort of set of skills And we definitely had these we were so thrilled with our initial pick of three that seemed to meet those so well And many of these other would have been terrific substitutes But yeah, they didn't agree So I guess without just saying, oh, do we know the person if the person has a particular set of skills that Really seems really super relevant as opposed to just somebody they like to work with because they have before You do I guess I And and the and both of the two remaining members think it's a good idea Then I guess with some reluctance I mean like I said, I had so many people that I mean we thought about a lot of people but Specific people we recruited that just for whatever reason can't make the time to do it at this point And you know now is the time it needs to be done If I could ask mr. Stamak, do you have one pending possibility and then if that did not pan out then this would be the Next possibility. Yes, there is one person who's resident of the town who I have talked with at the recommendation of Somebody who works for the town the department head and I Asked him to talk to the three current members of the committee or some combinate some number of them and then get back to me and That individual is planning to do that this week Then we would have a recommendation from a town senior staff person and could have recommendations from the committee and We might want to set up a little bit more of an interview process But that would be somebody who would be within the town. Otherwise We have no one else At this point and the person who's not from Amherst I have not reached out to at all because I didn't even feel comfortable doing that without some guidance from this group Oh, I think I think what I'm hearing is that you know, pursuing the person that's in town and that's preferable I think to everybody's but if not, then I think we may need to widen our field view on that so Hopefully that's somebody's listening Perhaps we're hoping someone's listening the person not for me. We're is is truly interested right? Yeah, that's right, but it's theoretically so I would I would say If everything else falls out, then yeah Meanwhile, if you think of anyone else You keep thinking keep thinking I know we all have Okay, so I think next up is How management report I do have a few things I want to mention first is that People in the community may have noticed that are some of our neighboring communities Haven't impose water limits or water restrictions those are communities that are Have a different measure than we do in terms of when they have to Institute water restrictions as part of their permit. We do not have those restrictions on part of our permit We have plenty according to the DPW have plenty of water We have sources that we have not even begun to tap yet. We're in pretty good condition It was a conversation we had with the University and we are preparing a communication to the colleges and to the University to update them on where we are at this moment in time And we'll be doing that through the summer because it's a highly sensitive issue for the for our institutional partners So we're in pretty good shape We'll give you more detailed information your next meeting Noted the addition of Angela Mills who's who's sticking with us whether she'll come in tomorrow or another question Town clerk Sandra Burgess, this is her last week and Will be missing her Sue I debt who is the assistant town clerk will be acting town clerk for the month of July and then Margaret Nardowitz will be starting August 1st. We've also reached out to Sandra Burgess to help during the election process which miss Nardowitz has Nardowitz had requested. I also miss Pupple has agreed to or we've offered her the opportunity to Help with the transition to miss Mills, but also to help with cleaning up the minutes that we have outstanding The health insurance for the town employees and retirees is in the process of switching over People should have received their their insurance cards by now or tomorrow at the very latest This will Become effective on July 1. So a lot of credit to the people who really Managed through the process on the town in the school side for making that happen. It's really an important change over and we still as you know have the self-insurance Program that we're still anybody going to the doctor today or me because of my foot That will be under the old plan, but the new plan will be kicking on July 1 Want to note that the there's an economic development form the third in the series on June 27th from three to five in this room The I'm not sure if members will mention these things, but if I'll just mention touch on them the North Square dedication the Valley bike You may want to talk about that Kickoff two kickoffs one in Northampton one in Amherst and The other thing was that we had a meeting with the town of Hadley tonight immediately prior to this Meeting in the transition of their ambulance service to action ambulance that is scheduled to go into effect on June 29th Which is Friday at 9 a.m. We give us a day in case anything goes wrong in terms of the switch over The key thing is where are the calls being directed once they come into? Into the Hadley Dispatch center are they going to go to action or are they going to go to Amherst right now? They they just push if it's a medical call They just push a button that automatically transfers to calls the call to our dispatch center on June 29th Those will also begun begin going to Hadley. We will we have a mutual aid agreement We are working on with Hadley. We will continue to provide Services through June 30th at midnight to them is as needed to help cushion that They're very confident that they will make this happen on June 29th, which we're very pleased by and we appreciate the cooperation and Cooperation of our firefighters and dispatch center in term and helping to make this a change over for the town of Hadley So that's all I have to report today. Thank you. So now we'll move to select board member reports Does anyone have a member report? About our Participating in we participated in the town of Sunderland's The 300 300th anniversary celebration and Mr. Slaughter and Mr. Steinbringen myself rode in the town's Electric all electric vehicle. I think it's a sustaining Amherst and we actually got a lot of Chairs and claps as we went by and we had the town banner tied to the front of the car Oh, I forgot the quarters. I owe you. It only flew up twice And I think that was a nice thing to do and I Don't really have any other memory reports because my committee work has been pretty quiet the last couple weeks I've no committee reports so I'm gonna You're sure that the one thing that I will report on is that mass school building authority was Made a side visit to the Fort River school and two members of the school committee were president superintendents the Our buildings Specialists mr. McPherson was present and I was there representing Select board since as you know, we needed a select board representative and I thought it was a really very thorough and productive conversation and It was pleased to see that After all that had happened that we put in a statement of interest and They didn't Schedule initial visits with all communities that submitted statement of interest, but they selected to come back Damer stand to tour the Fort River school and to meet with all of us and They I think that we answered The questions that were posed to us and they allowed us to make a presentation of what the need is and They are working on somewhat of a Rolling basis where they're trying they'll do assessments and determinations of The amount of money that they have available in the size of the projects that they have seen in making a determination So we could hear as early as December, but if we don't hear in December, it doesn't mean that we aren't in the next Stage of this round. It's just that they are Gonna treat it on some what Somewhat of a rolling basis to as they go through the process And there were several events that I attended with various members of This board in the past few days including the habitat We're we're our chair spoke and Ms. Brewer and I were at the meeting at the first Congregational church We're a congressman McGovern and many others spoke very eloquently about issues and among those Was the CEO Perez who spoke very eloquently about the current crisis in the immigration That's basically it Ms. Brewer Following up on that list. I was very sorry to miss the habitat Hammers Community Land Trust having been to the groundbreaking and then the dedication So I appreciate all of those who you could be there for 1073 to 1075 North Pleasant The they say that was the 40th and 41st unit, but that's quite an impressive feat in Amherst. That's really amazing Thank you for mentioning the McGovern Talk where lots of people talked about things they could do practically speaking and helping support in a variety of ways Both Lucia Perez and directly and then also Who to write to and who to put pressure on? The survival center flipped their switch and our chair spoke at that as well and Flipping their switch had to do with their solar panel. So that was great And we have a new chamber director starting on July 9th Who is eager to meet with any of you individually to get your perspective on things? Happens to be a friend of mine named Claudia pos money who starts on July 9th. She's on vacation right now So you don't have to email it right now and then the Commonwealth Secretary and This is where I'm gonna have to start working with Ms. Mills as to what gets quoted in the minutes that Alyssa says So Secretary Galvin came to town for what I would assume was his first visit ever to Western Massachusetts and He talked about talking about Right-ends at some point in the future to some group of people at some point So it was not a workshop that some of us assumed it was going to be it was an announcement about a workshop but we made sure thanks to helpful town staff including Ms. Burgess and Sunred to move the Amherst flag that we worked so hard on into the picture So it didn't just look like a beige hotel wall in Ohio that he was visiting us in Not that there's anything wrong with a beige hotel arm in Ohio, but nonetheless, you know It's like when you go to a conference am I anywhere that I actually get to go outside at the conference? Yes, come to Amherst at least be with the Amherst flag We were hoping to have him on the steps, but apparently he wanted to be inside and he left us a poster About right ends, but mainly he there is going to be a regional town clerks meeting in July And he's going to make sure he or someone in his office is part of that To make it really clear how right ends work because one of the weird things for example as was covered in the Gazette article If you put a sticker on a space well first of all don't put it under the wrong race That would be a bad thing But the other thing is I won't count But the other thing is if you put a sticker under somebody's name that's on the ballot and you don't mark the oval next to the sticker The intent it does count the intent is that you put the sticker on so you didn't have to mark the oval However, if you put the sticker on You are definitely not voting for the person on the ballot So you really have to be careful and so there's going to be a lot of hand counting done By staff because when it goes into the machine it goes a different place if it's got a sticker on it And so that much more work for our election staff With a new while returning but still a new town clerk During a new town election on the day after Labor Day So it is not going to be an easy challenge for staff So I appreciate that he did come out and you know wants to get everybody on the same page as to how write-ins work in particular in this and another community that's having a lot of write-ins Are you also? So I think since I have been at a variety of things with colleagues of mine on this, but not mr. Wald I've not been I've not been anywhere with mr. Walter Still in Prague So I've not been but I've been speaking at a lot of different things Trying to be very brief generally and so I will be brief this evening But I will mention that Thursday there are two different opportunities relative to the valley bike share So we've partnered with a number of communities here in Western Mass to to cooperatively get together and buy Bicycles for use In the variety of communities and so North Hamptons having the sort of full Everybody come from all the communities event at 11 p.m. 11 p.m 11 a.m. On Thursday morning at I believe it's Plasky Park So right there in the middle of downtown North Hampton We are going to have our version of it our local event at three o'clock on Thursday afternoon And so people can participate either one of those and come see the new bikes actually here You'll actually get an opportunity I think you're gonna have a few of the bikes out there electric assists You get a chance to ride your bike if you do I would recommend bringing a helmet That's always a good thing to do when you're riding a bike, but we will That's right There will be some some gift certificates given out to to get people an opportunity to sort of try it out Without having to put out their own But they're not an infinite amount of those a limited amount of those but there are some gifts tickets They're gonna be available at that event as well So we do want to encourage people to come out try out the new bikes Sort of hear about where they are and and how the whole system works And I think that's all I have PVTA meets on Wednesday this week Go ahead so I had two things one I want to ask you a question but and so I'll ask that and then I was hoping that between the two of you You would say something about the fact that I know it was a whole week ago But we had nor we had the amazing North Square ground breaking with Baker here So maybe we can end on that and I can ask my question in the meantime Which is we had had questions raised many times over the years about polling locations But I know specifically ones come up associated with the primary for Crocker farm And so we will want to get back to people about the potential for Having it at either months in which unfortunately isn't on the bus line or potentially in one of the community rooms on East Hadley Road Again a thing with the whole changeover and staff etc But given the day after Labor Day being the first day of school for kindergartners that makes that has been expressed to us If we could follow up on that and I just said I'd mention it tonight Because I know you're already working on it with the town clerk, but Tell everybody about how awesome it was to have the governor visit us for the amazing North Square ground break So the so the governor did come out and and I was Asked to speak I'm speaking a lot of things lately, but I got to speak with that and at that event You know it was a lovely event in both the weather and it's always nice to have you know the folks from vegan as well as The Jones family who's the landowner and we got to speak and the governor spoke for for a bit as well And he actually stuck around longer than I thought just you know His schedule doesn't always afford that and so it was nice to have him Be there for a little bit of time and share some of his schedule with us and and So it was a great opportunity for us to to as community to kind of come together and celebrate an event that you know Does a lot of things for us as a community You know it creates more affordable housing it creates housing in general not just affordable But affordable housing it creates more commercial space for us in town it it redevelops an area of town that that We're seeking to have that kind of redevelopment in which is one of our village centers And so it was really a nice opportunity and and a lot of nice press for amherst And it was nice to have the governor out and I think he also took the opportunity to swing by and see the chancellor at UMass a little bit But it was really nice event and and A beautiful day as well, but so we You know or anything like that, but it was a Great opportunity for us to sort of showcase the fact that we are serious about and and committed to affordable housing and and And yet at the same time trying to do things like economic development and And those other components of making our community strong and reflective of our values So it was nice Is there anything else anyone wanted to mention? If not, I think we've completed our agenda for the evening. So I would take a motion to adjourn Second all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. And so we're adjourned at 10 14 p.m Thank you all and thank you to Amherst media and Congratulations on completing your first day And night, please come back tomorrow


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Suspense! Tonight, Eve starring Nancy Kelly.  Thank you. You've got five minutes. Hello, Angel. Oh, Frank. Yeah, there, Angel. Take it easy. We don't have much time. Oh, but to have to talk to you like this through an iron screen, not even to be able to touch you. That's the way it is, Angel, when a guy's been... Frank, Frank, I know you didn't do it. I know you didn't. Of course, I didn't, Angel, but it's just one of those things, circumstantial evidence. Oh, but there must be something. I was pretty optimistic during the trial because I knew I didn't do it, I guess. But now that I look back on it, they had enough coincidence pieced together to convict a dozen innocent men. Frank? Oh, Frank, how can you be so calm? How can you... There's one thing I want you to know. I want to be sure you didn't believe any of that gossip about my running around with her. Oh, of course I didn't. She was a star. I was a producer. I needed her for my next picture. Lorna Moore was a big name in pictures, but you knew I'd been seeing her. I even told you how I'd quarreled with her. Oh, Frank, Frank, I know. Frank, how much more time is there? Two or three more minutes. No, no, no, I mean... Oh, November the 16th. Six weeks. Yeah. Frank, I'm going to do something. What can you do, Angel? Don't you realize there's a murderer running around loose? Some man was free and having fun and going out with girls. I'm going to find him. How could you find him? The police tried for weeks. They didn't try. All they wanted was to convict you. Uh-uh. But it is nice to hear you say it, Angel, because... What? Because it makes me know you really did love me. Oh, Frank... You see, there are things you can face when you're like this you didn't dare talk about or even think about before. I always loved you, Eve, but... But you were so much younger and full of ambition. Oh, Frank, don't. I'm sorry, Angel. I wish I could have done things for you. There won't be much left for you now. You know how it is in this business. You spend it as fast as you make... Frank, stop! Please, please stop! No, I'm a hill. Forgive me, Angel. But it's wonderful to know how you do feel. Frank? Frank, I'm not going to let this thing happen. There must be something. There must be some clue somewhere. Well, don't you think the police... Something the police didn't know. Something you saw when you were up there and didn't tell them. I couldn't have very well told them anything about that when my whole defense was that I hadn't been up there. But there wasn't anything, nothing important. But there must have been something. Whoever was there before you... Whoever did it must have left some trace. Well, there was her address book. Heard, heard. Yeah, I stuck it in my pocket because... Well, it was open at the letter J and my name was in it. It was a silly thing to do, but it's in the little secret drawer in my desk. Oh, Frank, why didn't you tell somebody sooner? What was the use? But I told him I'd been up there. Oh, yes. There was another little thing. I hadn't thought... Frank? A smell. Oh, what? What kind of... Cigar smoke. It times up, Miss Jeremy. Frank? All right? All right every day. All right, Miss Jeremy. Goodbye. So long, Angel. October 5th. Frank, darling, I found the little address book where you said it was. It's not much to go on. There are hundreds of names. But under the J's, there are only three others besides yours. I'm going after them one at a time. Tomorrow I'm going down to see Lieutenant Trout of the Homicide Bureau. He always seemed to me one of the few who tried to be fair. And I might need help. Oh, darling, I know it isn't much, but you must keep on hoping something will happen if only because I love you so desperately. What's your angle, Mrs. Jeremy? My angle? Yeah. Why are you doing all this? But he's my husband. I love him. Oh, look, Mrs. Jeremy, the cops around this town aren't exactly dummies, you know. You know what you were like before. You married them. All right, Dick Tracy. The person can change, can't they? Sure they can. A cop just hates to have anyone think they can make a sucker out of him. Well, you can skip the apologies if that's what they're supposed to be. Sure. Now, what do you want me to do? Well, what kind of evidence would I have to have? How specific would it have- What, to upset a first degree murder app? Well, something in writing. Well, it's not so easy. Have you got a suspect in mind, some particular person? No, not yet. But you might have. Well, there's one other thing. It's an old, old trick, but it's still good. What's that? Do you ever see one of these things? No, I don't think so. Here, talk into this little gadget here. Well, what'll I say? Oh, anything, just talk. Lieutenant Trout is one of the most chivalrous gentlemen I've ever met.  Here, now listen. Lieutenant Trout is one of the most chivalrous gentlemen I've ever met. See? A-a dictaphone. Yeah. You think it might come in handy? Well, it-it might. October 7th. Darling, Trout has installed a dictaphone in my new apartment. It's only a room, really. And, of course, I've changed my name to Evelyn Jarvis and my appearance. I don't think that even you, my darling, would recognize me now. The phone numbers are a dead end so far. The first was a dressmaker and the next a man who's definitely been in the South Pacific for over a year. But there's one more, a Jerry Jordan. I'm going to call him this afternoon.  I miss you so-is this Mr. Jerry Jordan? Yes. Well, I've finally found you. Can you guess who this is? Well, I'm afraid I'm not very good at that. Oh, all right. I suppose I'll have to tell you. This is Evelyn Jarvis. Oh? Well, don't you know who I am? No, I'm sorry. I don't miss Jarvis. Well, this is embarrassing. Didn't you get the letter? No, what letter? Oh, my goodness. Well, you see, a very good friend of yours who's also a very good friend of mine wrote you a letter about me. Or at least he said he would. I see. And I'll give you one other clue. I'm, uh, I'm from out of town. Now can you guess? You wouldn't be from San Francisco, would you? Well... Ed thought in that. He always did have a terrible memory for anything but phone numbers. Well, I didn't mean to bother you, but Ed said to be sure and look you up. Well, where are you staying? Oh, I managed to find a little place. Well, lucky you. Have you got any plans for dinner? Why, uh... Well, I hadn't really thought... Say, you'd better still. Have you got any plans for right now? Well, really, Mr. George? No, no, seriously.  Oh, no, no. Now you wouldn't want Ed Thornton to know you were acting that way, would you? You just jump in a taxi and tell him to take you to the Brown Derby on Vine Street. I'll be waiting right there. Well... And, uh, knowing Ed the way I do, I'm dying to meet you. Well, as a matter of fact, from what I know, I'm sort of anxious to meet you. Just a quick piece. I'm going to meet him now at the Brown Derby. Mr. Jerry Jordan, and I have a hunch he's it. I don't know why. I'll remember what you said about cigar smoke, and yet although I've got a hunch it... it makes me feel a little shaky to be going there. He's... Well, he's got such a nice voice to be a murderer. No. So that's what he says about me, as a fine pal. I'll say one thing for it. He may be an awful liar, but he sure has swell taste.  But tell me, Jerry, is this THE Brown Derby I mean the one you hear about? This is it. Are there any people, you know, who aren't here now? Well, it's a little early, but... Well, you know, I've always thought it was awfully silly, really, to be impressed by movie stars. Still, Hollywood must be sort of an exciting town to live in.  That's mostly newspaper talk. Hollywood's just like any other town. They have their regular quartered divorces and fistfights. Oh, and murders. Oh. Lorna Moore Business. Well, I read something about it. Yes, that was a genuine tragedy. I don't... I don't suppose you knew her. Well, as a matter of fact, Lorna was one of the few celebrities I did know. Oh, really? What was she like? Well, Lorna was a long ways from being the sweet little thing she seemed to be on the screen. Oh, but murder was... Yes, I suppose nothing really excuses that. Well, anyway, they got the man who did it. And Jeremy? Yes, I guess they did. You mean you don't think that... All the case looked good enough. You can't always tell about those things, though. Any number of people might have done it. I'm afraid that Lorna's life was kind of a mess. Well, Jerry, were you... Mixed up with Lorna? No, no. But didn't the police? I mean, I should think with a woman like that, all of her friends. They may have Jeremy so quick that it's not a matter of town what had happened. Oh, Jerry, may I have a cigarette? I'm sorry, I don't use them. I'll get you some, however. I only smoke cigars. What did you say? I said, I only smoke cigars. Darling, don't you see? His name in her book and he admits he knew her in the cigars. I'm positive. Now if I can win his confidence, I'll play that dictophone. Oh, I know I can do it. We've still got four weeks, darling, and I'll have to be awfully careful. He's clever and he's intelligent. Imagine a man who can carry a thing like that in his conscience and still be so terribly nice and courteous and thoughtful. But I'm going to win for you, darling. Hello, Jerry. Hello. You've been waiting long? Jerry, is something the matter? I don't know, darling. Why do we always have to meet here? Why can't I pick you up at your place? I don't even know where it is. Sometimes it's almost as though you were well, keeping some sort of a secret from me. Isn't it a woman's privilege to have secrets? Don't talk like that, darling. Jerry, Jerry, you must know by now I couldn't have any secrets from you. Oh, I'm a fine one to talk, I guess. I've been holding out on you, darling. I don't live in that hotel. I live in a place out in Beverly Hills with about 30 rooms in a swimming pool of block long. I've got more money than I know what to do with. Oh? Oh, darling, I... I feel like a dog about it now, but I didn't want you to know at first. Oh, and till you were sure I didn't care about money. Is that it? Yes, dear. Try to forgive me, will you? Oh, my poor darling. Of course I will. I do. And Jerry? Yes. About those secrets of mine. Suppose there were some things I couldn't tell you yet. Would that matter? Not if I was sure you would tell me someday. Jerry, I promise you that someday I will tell you. Frank, darling, I know the delay must be torture to you, but you must understand how careful I've got to be. I've got to have the positive living truth on that dictaphone. I haven't been able to get him up here yet, but we've still got 10 days, and I have a feeling it's going to be soon. Very soon. So don't worry, darling. Wait a minute, Jerry. Darling, I had to. It's been almost a week and I... Well, how did you find this place? What do you think I didn't tell you where it was if I didn't have reasons? All right. Darling, Ed Thornton arrived in town last night. He came to see me. Oh? He's never heard of you. He doesn't know anybody by the name of Evelyn Jarvis or anyone that even looks like you. Is that what you came up here to tell me? Darling, darling, I don't care what it is, only please, please! Jerry! Jerry? Oh, Jerry. Jerry, my darling.  I want you to marry me. You? You what? I want you to marry me. But first... Oh, my darling, I've waited so long. There's something. There's something I've got to tell you. No, Jerry. No, Jerry, don't. I've got to. And then you can tell me whatever it is and we can start even if you still want to. Jerry, do we ever have to tell anything? Does that matter now? I've got to, Evelyn. Have you ever been any longer not the way I feel about you? Jerry? I've... I've killed someone. I'm a murderer. Who? Laura Moore. And another man is going to die for it. Jerry, oh, no, my Jerry. Listen to me. It doesn't matter. I don't care what you've done. Jerry, I love you. You know that. I love you. Can you still...? I've loved you from the beginning. It didn't matter then and it doesn't matter now. Darling, what do you mean? It didn't matter then. Did you...? Yes, I knew. Do you know who I am? Who? I mean, Jeremy. The wife of a man is going to die for it. His wife? Yes. Now you know. And you're willing to let him die? No, he deserves to die for the things he's done. He'd have probably killed her anyway if you hadn't. I knew he was seeing her. He was a beast, Jerry. I knew from the beginning it was a mistake. He beat me. He beat me and he tortured me. I can't even tell you some of the things he... When... when does it happen? The 16th. Tomorrow night. Tomorrow night? Does that matter to you?  That's why I haven't seen you. That's why I haven't seen you. I was waiting until... Tomorrow night. I'll pass. I can get plane tickets tonight from a friend. I don't have to change, do I? Oh, you look lovely. I'll just throw a couple of things in a bag. Nobody will know about this place anyway. Make it quick, though. And it's a perfectly logical time for me to go away for a while. Hurry, baby, hurry. I'm already now. How do I look? Oh, you look beautiful, darling. Wait. What? I ought to write a note to him. Your husband? Yes. Just to keep us both in the clear. He won't get it until just before... What are you going to say? Well, you can read it if you want to. No, no. Here. I'll mail it for you. No, I'll just stick it in my handbag. I'll mail it at the airport. Are you ready? Yes. Come on, Jerry. Well, good evening, Mrs. Jeremy. Oh, hello.  Wouldn't you if you were me? Sure, I know how you feel. You in a hurry? Sort of. My friend here was going to run me down to the airport. Lieutenant Trout, Mr. Jordan. Well, I won't keep you but a minute, and then I'll give you a fast trip down there in a squad car. Want to step inside a minute? All right. Friend here, know what you've been doing? In a way. Any luck with our little gadget? What little gadget? Oh, a dictaphone. Lieutenant Trout thought... Are you thought, Mrs. Jeremy? All right. I thought. Mind if I turn it on? No, go ahead. There's nothing... Kill someone. I'm a murderer. Yes, that's about all we need to know, isn't it? I guess it is. Well, I told you I'd get him, didn't I? Yeah. Evelyn. You can wrap him up and take him away, Lieutenant. Don't forget to send me back my husband the first thing in the morning. Come on, Jordan. Eve. So long, sucker. Eve. They sure gave you the right name, baby. Yeah? Only you wouldn't have needed the apple. Or the snake. It just doesn't seem possible. Back here in our own home, out here in our own terrace again, everything just the way it was. Yeah. Do you remember when we first took the place, how happy we were and how the agent took us out on this terrace and asked us if it would be too high up if we were afraid of high places? Mm-hmm. Frank, is something bothering you? Well, Eve... Oh, tell me, darling. Oh, I know you've been through so much. When I think that today you might have... Look, Angel, I haven't had a kick coming.  Oh, darling. And I know what the answer is anyway, but it would only pray on my mind if I didn't talk to you about it. And there shouldn't be anything like that between us ever, should there? Well, of course not, darling. What is it? I... I have a record here. What record?  Oh, well, Frank, I...  I'll put it on the phonograph here on the terrace. Oh, but Frank, please, dear... It's all right, Angel. I know. Oh, my Jared, listen to me. It doesn't matter. I don't care what you've done. Jerry, I love you. Do you know that? I love you. I've loved you from the beginning. It didn't matter then, and it doesn't matter now. Darling. You know who I am? Eve, Jeremy. The wife of the man who's going to die for it. Yes. Now you know. Is... is that all? That was the end of the record. That was all that was recorded. Oh, Frank. It's all right, Angel. It's all right. I know. You see, I had to play it that way. Don't you see, I had to make him think this, so I could save you. Sure, I know, Angel. I just wanted to hear you say it, I guess. Please, Angel, I understand. Do... do you really? Well, of course I do. I'm a heel, Angel. Oh, darling. Listen, it's all over now. I'll tell you, let's celebrate. All right, let's.  Oh, that'd be wonderful. I'll go now, only... What, darling? Well, just getting out of the clink, I don't have any money. Do you? Oh, of course, darling. Right there in my handbag. Where? Oh. Oh, sure. Sure, you've got plenty. Say, here's a letter. A... a letter? Yeah, and it's addressed to me. A letter? A letter? Oh, Frank. Well, you must have forgotten to... Frank. No, Frank. No, no, Frank, no. No, Frank, I didn't... I can explain just how, Frank. Please, Frank. Angel! Trout. Trout, this is Frank Jeremy. The terrible things just happened. What? My wife, suicide. Nerves, I guess, she jumped off the terrace to stop her, it's 14 stories. Was suicide, was it? She gave me a note in her own handwriting just before... Oh. It does, all right. Here, I'll read it to you. It says, Frank, my darling, I've been wrong all the time. I've failed you utterly. Now I can't even bear the thought of facing you. When you read this, I will be gone. This is farewell forever. And so closes Eve, starring Nancy Kelly. Tonight's study in... Suspense. Suspense is produced and directed by William Spear. And now, further to intrigue you, we of suspense present a special preview of our next exciting tale. And here it is, a tantalizing glimpse of our next adventure in Suspense. Warden Graves. Yes, Miss Rhodes, sit down, won't you? Thank you. I hate to disturb you like this, but I've traveled clear across the country. They wouldn't give me the information over the phone. I know.  To some extent, yes. You think one of our prisoners, Tom Nixon, has escaped? He has escaped. I'm as sure of it as I'm sure of sitting here now. I saw him at large in New York City two days ago. You knew Tom Nixon well, Miss Rhodes? Knew him? He was my mother's murderer. My mother was Mrs. George Rhodes of Huntington, Long Island. She ran a boarding house there. September 18, 1934. We have all the records of the crime, Miss Rhodes. Tom was mother's chief boarder for 10 years. I know him. While I sat opposite him at dinner table from the time I was a girl of 15, I knew him as well as I knew mother. I'd know him anyway. I see. And now he's at large. He's free. Somehow or other, he's escaped this place. Maybe you're not aware of it. Maybe even his fellow prisoner is unaware of it. But he's wormed his way out. And he's after me. He's after me. Oh, now, my dear young lady. I've been in some graves. 10 years ago, mother was found murdered. I knew it couldn't have been anyone but Tom. I testified against him. I was the chief practically the only witness at the trial.  He swore in the open court to get even with me. For 10 years, I've lived in deadly fear. Watched the newspapers for prison breaks. I've moved from house to house. Made few friends. He's hung over me like a shadow. No, I told myself he was locked up here. Locked up here forever. And now it's come. And where exactly did you see the prisoner, Miss Rose? That's just the point. That's why I know he's after me. I saw him in my own apartment house. Wow. He has a job there, running the elevator at night. That's what makes it so horrible. I've never married Gordon Graves. I live all alone in a small three-room penthouse on the 18th floor of an office building. The other night, about a week ago, I came home alone from the movies after midnight. The big marble lobby of my building was deserted, except in a far corner near the elevator with his back toward me, there was a man down on his hands and knees, scrubbing the floor. Good evening. Good evening. Where is everybody? Isn't the elevator working tonight? You want to go up in the elevator, Mom? Certainly. I'll be right with you. Okay, Mom. What floor? I was in the elevator, and he had started to ascend before I really saw him. It was Tom.  Everything about him, the crook of his head, his high, thin, bony nose, the holler cheekbones were all the same. And then he turned and stared at me. I could see those deadly pale, cold eyes, those heavy eyebrows, still black, that familiar, quiet, sarcastic mouth. What floor, Mom? Oh, my floor. Yes, the penthouse, please. Penthouse? Where is that, on the roof? Yes, on the roof, please, 18th floor. Okay. Warden Graves. It was like being in a cage with a wild beast. He kept watching me, with me furtively as the elevator moved, agonizing, slowness up and up past the floors. I shrunk back, averting my face. The light in the car was dim. My only hope was that he did not recognize me. Here's your floor, Miss. Thank you. Good night. Good night. Good night. You can go back down. I don't need anything, thank you. What's the matter? Forgotten your door key? No. No, it's just, it's right in my bag. I'll find it in a minute. You want me to let you in? Let me in. No. No, good lord. I got past keys to all the doors. No trouble. No, thanks, but I... No, no. No, I have it right here. Good night. And so until our next performance, when you will hear the rest of this exciting tale, we keep you in... Suspense. This is the Armed Forces Radio Service.


So I've just finished binge watching the Breakpoint series on Netflix, the tennis documentary series that we've been waiting for for over a year now and it was very very interesting the way they played it out. Only five episodes, it only goes from Australian Open to the French Open and then the Wimbledon and beyond episodes will be happening I think coming out in June when Wimbledon comes out or when we watch Wimbledon but this is going to be a spoiler review. So if you haven't watched it and you want to watch it and you don't want to give any spoilers away then don't watch this video, come back after you've watched it and then you can be a part of the conversation. If you're not going to watch it and you want to hear all about it, I'm going to give you a little bit of a preview into all of the episodes, the five episodes, who they were about, a little bit of a breakdown into what they were and then at the end I'll give you my critiques of it because it wasn't perfect, I think they could have done with some other things and some of the great things that I saw because it was really really awesome. There was some really awesome parts to it. Let's start with episode one, it was at the Australian Open, the first two episodes were at the Australian Open and it was a really interesting episode. It started with a bit of an introduction to tennis, how to do the scoring, how the draw works, talks about the grand slams, you know what the big tournaments are and you know remember this is not, it's a tennis documentary but it's not for tennis people, it's to get new people into the sport. So I love that it did a little bit of intro into the sport. So after the intro they went straight to the man that everyone knows even outside of tennis, Nick Curios. He was the star of episode one. Now if you remember back last year he actually didn't do that well at the Australian Open and he didn't actually do that well in the singles but he did do well in the doubles which we'll get to in a second. So most of the first episode was the backstory of Curios and they showed the two rounds that he played. He played first round against Brody, they showed a lot of that and then they showed the Mevedev match that he lost ultimately lost to. So it was interesting to see that a lot of behind the scenes of Curios, you know a lot of swearing which was a massive plus for me. I love the fact that there was no censoring in this, the players were saying what they feel and that went through pretty much every player dropped one swear word. Pretty much the entire show, at least one drop of a swear word and everything and I loved it. Even if it was in a different language I loved it. Curios, he was dropping swear words everywhere, I loved it and he lost, you know he lost in the second round. So they focused on the doubles. The second half of this episode was all about the doubles and the doubles triumph with Cockenarkis. They bought Cockenarkis in, great dynamic between those two and it was really that was the top moment for this episode was the fact that he teamed up with his best friend and they won the trophy and that was where the end credits rolled. I mean he won the trophy, the success which we can't say about every episode because every episode some didn't end on a high note but this did. He won the trophy with his best mate, they won the doubles, credits rolled that was the end of the first episode. I love the fact that they talked to Curios' mum and about his mental health struggles and how being put in the spotlight really changed him. That was really interesting to hear from his mum. He also mentioned that himself talking with his team so it was really interesting to see that. But Curios, he was the star of episode one for both the singles and the doubles at the Australian Open last year. Episode two was really really interesting because it started with Djokovic getting deported. Djokovic doesn't get featured in this first five episodes, none at all. That's the only time we hear about Djokovic, the entire first five episodes, him getting deported. But it sets up Baratini's arc in this episode. So Baratini, Tom Manovich, they are the stars of this episode staying at the Australian Open. Start with Djokovic, he gets deported, protest all of that. Then they pan to Baratini and he goes, I can probably win this because I lost to Djokovic at Wimbledon and I would have been a Grand Slam champion if it wasn't for him. So it was a really interesting way to set up that Baratini arc. But we start with Tom Manovich because she didn't do well at Australia last year. She lost in the second round to Bodosa. We actually seen a couple of episodes time and it was really interesting to see her disappointment. I think that was the biggest thing I took away from it was the disappointment of her losing and the rawness between her and her coach. Again, no-sensitive, you know, uncensored. It was awesome to hear just exactly what she was feeling in the moments after she lost that second round. And it was a bad loss, you know, the score was really, really one-sided. So it was really interesting to see that rawness between her and her coach after the match. Then we get to Baratini. Now these two were in a relationship at the time. They're not anymore, but at the time they were. So Tom Manovich does feature throughout the entire, pretty much the entire episode until the very end because Baratini still played in the tournament, still did well. So Baratini pretty much fast-forward straight to Alcarez match in that third round. That battle in that five-setter, which was, again, an absolute epic. And they showed a lot of that footage, which I loved. Now Alcarez isn't featured in these first five episodes despite him doing some pretty amazing things. They don't talk about him much. This is pretty much the only time he gets a mention and he gets airtime in the first five. He beats Alcarez, Baratini beats Alcarez and they fast-forward to the semi where he plays against Rafa Nadal. And again, it's interesting. We'll find out this as the series goes on, but they kind of paint Rafa, not as the villain, but as the man that keeps ruining everyone's chances. So he's the one who spores the party. That's what we find with Rafa. It's like, you know, because they couldn't get Rafa for this.  But it's all about Rafa stops players winning. You know, he takes the trophies from him. So that's what happened with this one. It didn't have a high moment really. I guess the high moment was, you know, the backstory of these two players, but unfortunately it ended with Baratini losing. And that was a pretty bit of a downer ending. But you know, that's what happens, you know, not everyone can win in tennis and they picked a certain amount of players. They got lucky with a few and some of them lost. And unfortunately, Baratini was one of those. On to episode three now and we go straight into Indian Wells, which is the next big tournament on the calendar for the ATP and WTA. And it's really interesting. It started with everyone leaving from Australia, as if they went straight to Indian Wells. Now, we know that there's about a month between each, but it was interesting how they cut that to make it look like it went from Melbourne to California. And I love that. I thought it was awesome. It felt like the season was much quicker than it was. And in this episode, they focused on Zachary and Fritz. Now, Fritz being the California kid, he was the home home, home favorite, I guess. And Zachary, who was trying to get to a big final and they both did that. So they picked the right players to go with. And it was really interesting the dynamic. We'll start with Zachary because Zachary, they talked a lot with her coach. And there was a lot of back and forth with the coach behind the scenes, which I really loved. And this really was an episode about the coach-player relationship. Because we saw that a lot with Fritz as well in this episode. We'll talk about later. But it was all about Zachary trying to get past her semifinal problems. She made a lot of semifinals in 2021. She didn't make too many finals. And she wanted to convert that into trophies. And this was really about that success of getting to the final of a big trophy. And they really built it up to she played against Bedosa in the semifinals. So Bedosa, who is going to feature in the next episode. The defending champion of Indian Wells. Zachary beating Bedosa was kind of like the highlight for Zachary in this episode. Getting to that final, it was the crowning moment of this episode for her. Ultimately lost to Shriyantek. Again, they don't really talk about Igor Shriyantek in the first five episodes until someone plays her. Which is really weird because we already know that Shriyantek dominated that first part of the season. They don't talk about it much. But anyway, so Shriyantek featured a fraction as like the one who beat Zachary as Rafa did against Baratini in the previous episode. So it was a little disappointing. But it was great to see that sort of triumph for Zachary and also that coach relationship which I really like to see the behind the scenes of that. Heading over to Fritz. And it was about him being the hometown favorite, you know, the California kid. He went to this tournament as a kid. This was his slam, his home tournament. And really went through the motions of that. He played Roublet. They fast forward straight to Roublet in the semifinals. They didn't show much, you know, first round action from Fritz. Straight to the semifinals. And he beat Roublet, gets to the final. And of course, he has to play Rafa. And just before the match started, he was practicing and he got injured. And that was the best part of this episode. Not because he got injured, but the best part was seeing the behind the scenes. But back and forth, the coaches are saying, don't play. Fritz is going, I have to. This is my home. This is my dream. I have to play this. And seeing that back and forth between the coaches, like I said with Zachary, this for a different reason. Both Paul Anacone and Michael Russell both saying, you can't play. What if it gets worse? Fritz is like, I don't care. I'm playing. I have to play. And ultimately he won. And he beats Rafa, the guy who also was injured, but they don't talk about that that much. But they talk about a lot of Fritz's injuries and what he overcame. And that was, again, the highlight was the win. Him lifting the trophy and then the credits rolled. And that was episode three. On to episode four now, and we skip over a lot of the season straight to Madrid. So we missed out on Miami, Monte Carlo, and Stuttgart for the ladies. So a lot of big tournaments were skipped over from that mid-March to almost early May. I mean, we went through, we just skipped in time, big time. And it starts with Bodosa and Jabur. They're the two massive features for this. We start with Bodosa and we go through her kind of struggles because she had such a great year. She was number two in the world at the time. And then all the pressures that come with that. And she was the hometown favorite. She was the Spaniard playing in Spain in Madrid. She was supposed to be the favorite to win. And of course she lost early. She lost pretty early. And they talk about her struggles with depression, which I thought was really, really interesting to hear that it's not a weakness to struggle with depression. Whereas most sports struggling with mental illness or anything to do with your mentality should not be spoken. And she was very open with it and it was very, very interesting to see that. And I love seeing that part of it from her point of view. Then we go to Jabur. And again, we see the backstory. This was really fun to see the backstory of Jabur. We didn't get too many matches early on with her, but we did get a lot of match footage from the quarterfinals onwards. But I love seeing the humble beginnings of Honstabur and the small team because Tunisia doesn't have a tennis, I guess a tennis fund that they can just give to players to become professional tennis players. So she had to do it all on her own. And I love seeing that like, you know, humble beginning story coming through, you know, to become a professional and ultimately a top 10. So we get to the quarterfinals of the Hellop match where she played Hellop. And Hellop had actually beaten Bodosa. So they did show Hellop a little bit earlier. So it was kind of like the player that beat the other player. Now you've got to play them. And Hellop was kind of the lady to beat, I guess, in Madrid. That's what they set her up to be. And it was really interesting to see how Jabur beat Hellop. And then they went on to the semi-finals where she beat Alexandrova. And then the final. They kept on talking about how she was the first lady from Africa, the first Arab woman and the first Tunisian to make it to a 1,000 final. So it was all about breaking records for Jabur. And then the final. It went three sets. It was epic. And just like the previous episode with Fritz, it was victory for Jabur. And that was where the episode ended with the triumph of the episode being Jabur winning. So that's where it was really interesting this series, how we ended sometimes with, you know, with triumph, luckily, I guess, for Fritz and I guess Curios at the start of the whole thing with the first episode. And then Jabur lifting the trophy. So again, it was all leading up to that glory. And then the credits roll. Then heading into the final episode of part one, episode five, it was the French Open. It was called the King of Clay. Now it wasn't based around Rafa, but it kind of was. So it wasn't about Rafa directly. It was about Rafa indirectly. So it was about FAA, Ojalia Seym, and Kasparud. And they played Rafa at the French Open. So it was... There's a lot of Rafa in this one, right? There's a lot of Rafa. But not about... Again, it was about painting Rafa as the villain. He was the guy that was going to take the trophies from everybody.  So he did take the trophies from everybody. But they started with Felix Ojalia Seym. I really liked how they went into the relationship between him and Uncle Tony. And then they talked about how the media went, because eventually Rafa played Felix. And Uncle Tony didn't want to go and didn't want to support any player. He just wanted to sit there as a fan because he didn't want to pick a side. And the media blew it up and made it really interesting to be like, you know, Uncle Tony picked Rafa over Felix. And Felix is paying Uncle Tony's bills. But to see Felix say, no, no, we knew this was going to happen. If I ever played Rafa, I wouldn't... I knew he wouldn't be on my side, but we knew that coming in to getting Uncle Tony. That's what was really, really cool to see, like Felix go, no, no, we knew this was going to happen. This is not a drama. This is not a problem. Yeah, I would love to have you in the box, but we understand. So it was really cool to see, like, all this drama build up and then all of a sudden Felix goes, no, no, no, it's not a problem. And I love that. I love that. It just shows how, like, things get blown out of proportion and, you know, we don't know anything at the end of the day. The player knows what's going on. So once they build up that match between Felix and Rafa, they played the whole thing out, the five setter. So it was a really, really interesting kind of, I guess, match play. There's not too much match play in this whole series, but they picked the right matches to watch. And this one was epic. Rafa wins, ultimately. Felix, they go through his backstory a little bit as well. And his dad was a coach and his dad was really strict on him. But again, you know, Felix ultimately lost to Rafa, and then we moved on to Kasper Rood. So Kasper Rood, who made the final of the French Open, this was really interesting because he was a part of the Rafa Nadal Academy. So they talked a lot about how he grew up idolizing Rafa, how he, you know, again, it was indirectly about Rafa. It was indirectly about Rafa. And how Rafa was the man to beat. They showed a little bit, I guess, a little bit of footage of Rood playing all the way up to the final. Not really, though. I really wish they had shown him play Runa. I think that would have been awesome and really dramatic to see that, but they totally ignored that. They just went, oh, he won the quarterfinals next. And then they got to the final. It was really, like, this episode was the weirdest one because, again, they couldn't get Rafa for the series. And he lost, ultimately, lost to Rafa. So again, just like episode two, this felt like a bit of a letdown because you're like building up to the final and if you hadn't watched it, you would have been, ah, the guy that we were meant to root for lost. And again, at the hands of Rafa. So, again, we'll get to that in a second, but Rood getting to the final, FAA getting to the fourth round, both losing to Rafa. Not having Rafa available to make comment. But again, it was really interesting to see. The main thing was mainly to see these guys, how they idolized Rafa and how they were indirectly, I guess, connected to Rafa through Uncle Tony or Tony Nadal being Rafa's uncle and old coach, working with Felix, and then also Rood being a part of the Rafa Nadal Academy and knowing Rafa behind the scenes a lot as well. So that was really interesting, but it didn't really end on a high note because there was no one who really won. They both lost their matches at the end of the day. So there are the five episodes. Let me know down in the comments below what was your favorite episode and what was your favorite moment of the episodes. The things that I think they could improve on though, I think that we missed out on a hell of a lot of goatness. We had a lot of Rafa, but not really, we need Rafa. We need to talk to Rafa. We need Rafa to be a part of the second series. Djokovic was only mentioned once. That was really interesting. I think, you know, not having Djokovic, I guess play most of the start of the year was a problem. Maybe we'll see him later in the year, but Djokovic was only mentioned when he got deported, which was really interesting. And another two big things that I thought we missed, Svjontek at the French. They didn't mention anything to do with the ladies at the French Open. It was all about Rood and FAA. They didn't even mention who won the French Open ladies.   And Madrid, they didn't talk about Elkaraz beating Nadal and Djokovic. Now, it's because they didn't have Elkaraz to interview, I guess. He might be in there later. But it's, again, that was a massive miss. They didn't talk to, you know, they didn't even talk about Elkaraz winning Madrid. They didn't talk about Elkaraz beating Nadal and Djokovic back to back on clay. Again, a massive miss there for me. But overall, I loved it. I thought it was great. Overall, and I'm excited for the next five episodes. I think the next five are going to be epic. I think we're going to get more Svjontek. We're going to get more Elkaraz. Probably some Djokovic as well. Kirios comes back for Wimbledon. So he was a real star in the first episode. Didn't see much after that. But let me know down in the comments below. What was your favorite part of this? And let me know if you want me to go into more detail. Because I can talk about this for 30 minutes if you want. But we're trying to do a little bit of a brief summary here. But let me know down in the comments below what was your favorite episode and your favorite moment of the first five.