I would like to welcome everyone to the first in our webinar series on the day in the life of a leader. We have gotten a fabulous response nationally and internationally, so we are very pleased that you are here today. My name is Dr. Susan Allman, and I, along with Dr. Cheryl Stenstrom, have put this webinar series together. And we've got some really exciting individuals speaking with us today, and for three weeks in April. So please join us for each of these sessions. This session will be recorded. It will be available on our YouTube site, and there will be a link on the School of Information Sciences webpage so that you'll be able to get to it. So I will turn everything over to Dr. Stenstrom, and then we will begin. Thank you, Dr. Allman. We co-chair the School of Information at San Jose State University's Leadership and Management Advisory Committee. So each of our subject areas has outside advice committee, and that committee, the Leadership and Management one, has spoken to us many times about the need for the School of Information to help students see a path towards management and management careers. And one of their ideas was that having a view into a typical day in the life of a leader might be useful both for students and for those considering signing up and perhaps attending an MLIS program. So here we are today, and I'm thrilled to welcome the first in our four-part series. And I will introduce to you Dana Van Zandt and Heather Robinson in just a moment. As Dr. Allman said, we're going to do the presentation and have time at the end for questions. Today's unique format, we're going to do an interview style presentation with questions and answers with both of our guest speakers. And before I introduce them, I would just like to give a very special thanks to Kim Doherty and Jill Cleese at the San Jose State University Career Center who helped Dr. Allman and I put together some of the content and background for this series once our committee had suggested it. So on we go, if we can go to the next slide please. Our two speakers today are Dana Van Zandt and Heather Robinson. Dana and I know each other quite well. She is a current student at the School of Information in San Jose, however, lives in Ontario. We share that we're both Canadian, but we met in class a couple of semesters ago and she's since gone on to do an in-depth study on advocacy at her home library, which is St. Thomas Public Library in Ontario. Her title is Manager of Advocacy and Community Development. And prior to taking that on, she worked as a library assistant and a library services coordinator within the St. Thomas Public Library. Before entering the library world and continuing to pursue her education by getting her MLS, she had received her Bachelor of Arts and a Master of Arts in Philosophy. Heather Robinson works with Dana. She's the CEO of the St. Thomas Public Library in Ontario, Canada. She's been working there for 20 years in a variety of roles, including manager of team and children's services, manager of fundraising and community development, public services librarian, and was seconded to be the project coordinator for the renovation of their library building in 2011, so indeed a little bit of everything at that library. Heather started her career as a page in London, Ontario at the Public Library when she was 14 and went on to work in Toronto, Kingston, Ontario at the Public Libraries there after she graduated from library school before coming to St. Thomas. And she was nominated as the Ontario Library Association's Children's Librarian of the Year in 2004, so thank you so much to both of you for being here and agreeing to join us for the kickoff of our four-part series. What's up, Andrew? Thank you. Without further ado, Sue, I think we'll go to the next slide and start off on our interview and we'll get to know you a bit through our questions. Absolutely. Okay, so Dana, I think we'll start with you. We ask you some questions about being a leader and then maybe you can pass that over to Heather and the first question is, before you were in a leadership role, did you have any hesitations about moving into this level of responsibility? How did you handle that? And once you became a leader, what surprised you, if anything, about your new role? Okay, thank you. First of all, thanks so much for having both of us here. We're really excited about the opportunity and it's nice to be chatting with you again, Cheryl. So before I was in this leadership role, moving up within the same organization that I'd worked in for quite a few years, because we are a unionized organization, one of my immediate concerns actually was moving outside the union, I've become quite used to working in that environment and the sort of the constraints and the supports that it provided. But I did find that my nervousness about that was fairly quickly allayed because of the supportive nature of the management team that I joined. So that was definitely a concern that was very real for me, but one that was quickly put to rest by the working environment I found myself in. I did also wonder, because again, I worked my way up through the organization that I started in, if a move to management would change my relationships with my co-workers, I'd become quite close with some of them and I'd work with a lot of them for about eight years or so. So I would say, I mean, I've been in this management role for just over a year now and the relationships have changed. I think at the beginning I thought that not a lot about it would change that I'd be able to sort of maintain my chummy relationships with people. And while we're still on, for the most part, excellent terms, there's definitely some boundary setting work that has to happen when you move into a management role and you sort of become more aware of different levels that things are working on within the organization that you need to be aware of when you're interacting with people. And I think that that's something that took me by surprise and that required a fair amount of mentorship from my co-workers on the management team, but that's also been a real opportunity for growth for me, both personally and in this role. So again, that was something that was an immediate concern, but that's been something that's provided, yeah, a growth opportunity and, yeah, it's been rewarding. And the other sort of immediate concern that I had was the level of increased responsibility because although I'd worked here for eight years, my role as a library assistant had a certain amount of responsibility, but joining the management team, you're helping to lead the direction of the library, your managing staff. There's a lot more that goes along with that, but I found that I actually really enjoyed being part of the decision-making process. I still enjoy that. I enjoy hearing what my co-workers have to say, learning from them. I enjoy kind of finding my own voice, expressing that and the feedback that I get about that. It's, as I said before, it's really, it's a kind of team where there's a lot of collaboration, there's a lot of honest feedback, but there's also a lot of encouragement. And again, it's been an opportunity for growth for me. So I think if I was surprised by anything, it's by how much I've actually enjoyed the increased responsibility and enjoyed the opportunities that have come along with that because I was at first somewhat intimidated by that, I'll admit. So I guess that's my perspective and I'll hand it over to Heather. Thanks, Tina. And I would say a resounding yes to being hesitant about moving into this, the CEO role. I mean, I have had leadership roles right from the beginning of my career, including, you know, even on my co-op, I, when I did a co-op out of library school, I was in Toronto and it just so happened that the children's librarian left and all of a sudden I was in that role until I graduated. So it wasn't the leadership part of it that was really frightening to me. It was all of a sudden, you know, being in charge of it all. And I think that I was extremely apprehensive about the budgeting part of it. Even though I had been used to taking care of parts of the budget, I had never been in charge of the whole budget. But my former, the former CEO, she had worked with me on courses, on budgeting, because she knew that that was one of my apprehensions. That had really helped. And she put together a CEO binder of what to expect when you were a CEO. And I have to be honest, up until two weeks before the applications were due, and they did have a process whereby they went national. They put the posting out for anybody who wanted to apply for it. Up until two weeks, I still was unsure. And it was finally a call from the board chair saying, Heather, you are going to apply for this position, right? That really pushed me forward. And I said, OK, you know, Heather, what do you have to lose? And you might lose. And I, that in my mind was OK. I think that I could have coped with that. So that's really my journey to being the CEO. As far as what said, it came a leader, what surprised me is if it's OK to go on to that question, what I found was that you basically take every day as it comes. So I have to tell the funniest story about my very first day as CEO, very first day. We had a sewage backup in the children's department. And there literally was sewage all over the bottom floor of the library that did damage, that we had to close down the department, that we had to make decisions about where that staff are going to be working because they couldn't work in the basement. So I think in a way that was like trial by fire. It was saying to me, listen, every day you're going to come in, you're going to deal with whatever happens. And you can deal with whatever happens. You'll just take it step by step. What I also really found out was that it really emphasizes that your staff is everything, that where you have strengths or where your strengths aren't, there's are. And by cultivating a relationship of self-respect and respect for others, you recognize that and you work together. So you know what? I still, my Excel skills are terrible. But I have people on staff who can help me through that. But when I was thinking about taking on the role, I was saying, oh my goodness, you can't even do Excel. Well, you know what? You can't. There are people who can. And they can get you through that part of it. So I'm going to turn it over to Dana to talk a little bit more about what surprised her about the leadership. If you'd like to add any more, Dana? Well, actually, I feel like I kind of addressed the things that surprised me about it, just that I think how much I enjoyed it, how much I found that I did actually embrace it when it wasn't something that I maybe had originally thought that I was planning to do. So I feel like if people are OK, we're probably ready to go on to the next slide. And one thing, Dana, don't you notice about it? Is it's nice to have the overall view of things, right? To be able to look at the umbrella view and actually have the freedom to make decisions that can come to fruition. It's a really exciting part of a leadership role. That's definitely rewarding. Thank you both for being so open about your experiences, about sort of your hesitations and then the surprises and the joys that you're finding in those roles too. That's wonderful. I think that gives us a really very front line and down-to-earth view of what your story was like to get to those roles. I'll move on now quickly and ask you the next slide, which is why did you seek out a leadership role? Either one of you can take that question first. OK, I'll go ahead. It's Dana. So I actually, as Cheryl mentioned, I'm still actively doing this MLIS degree. I'm about halfway through. I'm taking it incredibly slowly. So I started that when I was still working as a part-time library assistant here at St. Thomas Public Library. And as I started to work through the core courses, it really did help me to see how my public library fit into the larger municipal picture and also what a transformational force librarians really are in people's lives. And that renewed and reinforced the passion that I had for public libraries. And I realized that I wanted to be part of the team that was going to be charting the course for the future of this library. And so the position that I'm currently in now opened up. And obviously I wasn't done the degree yet. And I sort of expressed to a co-worker that I wish that it had become available two years down the road, because I would have completed the degree. And she said, you know what? Why don't you just apply for it? You're doing the degree. You've worked here for years. Give it a shot. And so I did go and actually talk to Heather, who was my supervisor at the time in that role as well. And she really encouraged me to apply to go for it and to see what I could bring to it. And that was why I thought it out. And that's sort of how I got here now. So I guess I'll hand this question over to Heather now. And what's really important about hearing how Dana came to be in this role is that when we first envisioned the person, the manager of advocacy and community development, we immediately thought it would be a librarian. And when she came to us and when she came to me and we saw the light in her eyes and she said, I can remember it clearly. She said, this role is made for me. We went back to the table and we said, you know, is this a role that we really need a librarian in? You know, what would be the benefits of not having a librarian in this role? And when we went trolling, would this open the position up for people who had to have amazing skills that they could bring into libraries? And I think that we're seeing that as a trend that sometimes maybe the librarians aren't always the best person for certain roles in the organization. And that's OK, because it makes us broader and our thinking more creative, more innovative. And so we posted it. And she was up against librarians, but the light that she had in her eyes translated into an amazing interview and she is fantastic in the role. So I know I'm talking about Dana, but that's really important to know that sometimes you can advocate for yourself. And I hope that you will. As far as me seeking out a leadership role, I think after all the performance appraisals I've had in my lifetime, one of the things that's pretty consistent is people will tell me that I'm visionary, a visionary with my feet on the ground. And so I can't imagine being in a role where I couldn't chart my own path, where I couldn't make a difference. And I remember even the first when I was interviewed at St. Thomas Public Library and that was for a children's library role, I remember coming out of the interviewing and saying, I can make a difference in this library. And it's something that's obviously very important in my life. And I think we're going to talk a little bit about how we come to leadership and that can be a meandering road like it was for me or it can be quick. And you just know that you want to be in a top role and you go for it. And that's OK too. And both have their advantages and their disadvantages. But that's my reason for seeking out a leadership role. And if I can be honest, I'm at that age where I didn't think I could possibly go through trying to work around another CEO and whatever that meant for me. So that's just the honest answer to that. I think we're ready to go on. Thank you for that. Again, for being so open, both of you, and giving us some insight into the different ways that you can get into leadership positions. So this question that we can see on the screen, the next one, again, is a two-parter around how you both would define successful leaders, but also a bit about how those definitions influenced you and how that's been affected by those leaders under whom you've worked, when you've seen successful leadership. It's Dana again. I just want to say quickly before I answer this question. But I do think, and I'm not just saying this to plug San Jose, but I do feel that the skills that are being emphasized in the course in San Jose are ones that are really relevant for leaders. I feel like when I talk to Heather or I talk to the other members of our management team who did their degrees maybe a little bit further in the past. No, I'm sorry. A lot further in the past. But it's changed. The content of it has changed. The focus of it has changed. It's very much connected to skills that are necessary to today's workforce. And I feel that I'm very, very grateful that they opened up in position and made it possible for me to apply for it without the degree. At the same time, I would say that being actively in this degree while I'm in this role is the best possible combination for me at this point. Because I'm finding that every single course that I'm taking is something that I can directly translate into my day-to-day work life, which has been an incredible synergy, I guess I would say. So I just wanted to throw that out there. Well, so in its heather, I mean, absolutely. I went to library school long, long time ago. But even I know that in the library school, the library schools now are still struggling with what it is that's going to be relevant to those who are actually going out and working in libraries. And we're just seeing what Dana's bringing to the management table and to the workplace in general. And I mean, we're benefiting all over the place. And she's pointing out things that we should be reading because she's reading moments. So it's been an exciting process for us. Yeah, really. OK. So I can see there's a question in the chat. And I think in a way what I'm going to say about successful leadership, I hope is kind of going to speak to that question as well. So I guess I was going to say one of the things that I found is that it's been really good to be learning and growing together with this management team. Because as is probably quite clear by now, Heather is new to this particular role. And the other two people in our management team are relatively new to their roles as well. And that's provided a real atmosphere where growth is possible. So as far as what makes a leader successful, I would say the things that came to mind for me almost immediately were understanding themselves. So understanding what your strengths are and also understanding where your limitations are. And I think that's where the connection to advocacy is as well. When you take the time to get to know yourself and that involves self-reflection in a solitary way, but it also involves being observant of yourself as you interact with other members of your team, as you interact with the people with whom you're working. You do start, or at least I've found, you start to get a real sense of what your strengths are. And you start to own those. And you start to feel more comfortable advocating for yourself and understanding when is the right time to push your ideas forward, when is the right time to be listening. It's a real, your confidence starts to grow. And I think that's the combination of being in this role, owning the fact that I'm in this role, and being in school. There's just this confluence of intellectual pursuits and personal growth that I think has been really helpful. So anyways, as far as a successful leader goes, I think understanding yourself is key. You need to do that. Understanding the people with whom you've worked, or with whom you were actively working, who are they? What are their strengths? What are their limitations? And how do you capitalize on their strengths and help create an environment where they can work together to do their best work and whatever that best work is, it's gonna be defined by your own strategic plan and your own circumstances. But you wanna be creating an environment where these people that you've taken the time to get to know and understand can excel. And I think another thing about a successful leader is they know how and when to delegate. They know when something's best done by themselves and they know when it's best done by someone else. Also being able to give constructive feedback because I find one of my tendencies, especially since the people that I manage or people that I worked with side by side is to just give praise. And when that's due, that's great. But there are times when you need to give constructive feedback and you need to find out how to do that in a way that is going to help people grow and move forward. And also how to give encouragement and praise, but in a meaningful way, connect it to something specific. Don't just always say awesome job, awesome job, which is kind of what I did at the beginning because I didn't wanna be perceived as getting sort of above myself because I'd moved up. And I think a leader can help support you through your mistakes. All of us are gonna make mistakes, missteps, say something wrong, do something wrong, poor choice. You know, everybody does that, we're all humans. A leader is gonna help you work through that. They're gonna help you own what you've done, where you are and work through that to grow. I think also credibility, doing what you say you're gonna do, following through on things, not asking people to do things that you wouldn't do yourself. I'm not saying you have to do everything yourself, but being realistic about what you ask of people and not asking them to do things that you wouldn't do yourself. Another thing that I think is really important that I think we've seen a lot of over the last while is knowing how to involve the rest of the staff in decision-making, but without giving over too much of your own control. And that's a balance that I think we've been trying to walk as a management team for some time. And I think it requires conscious, constant effort. And I think also leaders do need to be forward thinking and visionary. As a member of the staff, it's good if you have those qualities, but it's not essential. When you're a leader, it's essential that you have those qualities. You're the one who is, well, part of the team that's leading, leading the institution forward. You have to be thinking about the future. You have to have a vision for that and you have to have a map to get there. So those are my thoughts on that. So I'll hand it over to Heather. Thank you, Dana. Yeah, and I, it's so funny because this morning I was just, I was reading a Brene Brown book and I stumbled across this. This is what she says about a leader. And I just believe in this whole heartedly. A leader is anyone who holds her or himself accountable for finding potential in people and processes. And I, that is to me, the true meaning of a leader.  But in the day-to-day running of a library, the people who are working in the library in whatever role they hold are holding this place together. So the most important thing that a successful leader can do is nurture the relationship with staff. That it's just, it's paramount to anything else. And I, you know, we've, I've been through a variety of leaders. Some of them I would consider, well, I've had some pretty weak leaders for a variety of reasons. I've had leaders who bully and create a fear-based leadership. And so people are tiptoeing around. I've had ineffective leaders who don't make decisions. And I think it's really important that you look at these experiences and say, oh, it would be nice if I just had nice, you know, healthy leaders. But leaders are never perfect. And you always learn something about from the negative parts of leadership. So, and I think that makes you stronger as a leader. But I emphasize what Dana said. And in fact, we are working on this right now that you need to first and foremost know yourself. And that's something I'm afraid I came to a little later on in life. And in fact, I just took a power workshop with a person called Julie Diamond. And I was sitting next to a woman and she said, Heather, it sounds to me like you need to own yourself. Own your strengths. And I thought, you know, my goodness, I've gotten to this far in my career and I haven't owned my strengths. So she recommended going on and doing the Clifton Strengths Test. So I came back, signed up, cost some money, did it. And it has 34 strengths on it. And I did the whole nine yards, you can do just five. And I found out what my top five were and I found out what my bottom five were. And some of them surprised me.  Well, so this is, it explains why I am who I am. So then we went on, I was so enthusiastic about this that I had all of the managers do the strengths test. And so we're actually working with a consultant right now. And we're talking about one another and our strengths and also how we see one another strengths. And that's been really important. And then we're taking the next step at a staff development day and having our staff do the strengths test. And all of this is to gift them with the knowledge, more knowledge of who they are. And that's really important. So I mean, we kind of have an unwritten rule around here that the best thing we can do is to get to know our staff well enough so that we know and they talk about what they're passionate about, what their skills are. And we try to interweave those things into our workplace. And libraries are excellent for this. You can interweave a whole lot of skills and talents into a library workplace. And I think we continue to do that. So we're hearing that even mirrored back to us. Like they'll say to us, we know that this is a workplace where we can use our passions and our talents. And I think that successful leaders do that. So then of course, in a role like mine, you have to be a strategist because you're dealing with politics and political figures and you're funding the majority of it is coming from the municipal government in our case. And so you have to know how to have a relationship with the politicians and still remind them that you have a library board. And sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn't. So in our case, you know, they help us with large maintenance projects and they do our budget, like they send checks for us and all that sort of stuff, keep our books. And I sit on the city manager's committee, which I would recommend for leaders to get to know their political environment. And I know in the United States, it's different. So I think that's really, really important. You have to be an active listener and you have to realize that this job is not all high level. Sometimes you're just dealing with cracked windows and social issues like, you know, drugs and sex in the washrooms. It's a real mixed bag and that's what makes it a wonderful role at one time. The other part of it that you have to know about this position and any leadership position where you're supervising people is that the personnel issues are extremely complex and extremely difficult and they take oodles and oodles of time. So the more you can work on interpersonal skills and yourself, who you are, I think the better. So I think we've pretty well. I think we have. We have talked that one to the ground. Okay, thank you. I would be remiss if I didn't loop that very quickly and say thank you too for the great plug about the San Jose State School of Informations MLIS program and Dana is a star in that program. So it's a mutual benefit there, I think. Our next question is about what skills you think are most helpful in your role. And maybe we can focus a little bit on the second part of this question about where you develop those skills as well too, if it was on the job or if it was, you know, you're a member of your condo board, any of those things that you feel really helped prepare you and develop those skills. Sure, I can start there at Dana again. I would say, I mean, given my particular history, most of these skills have been developed in this job while I've been in school, that being said, I do often draw parallels between being a parent and being a leader in an organization because there are a lot of parallels there. So I'm just gonna throw that out there. So I would say, let's see. Yeah, I think taking on this role, learning how to take responsibility for choices that I make because I start to see more concretely how they directly affect the people that I'm supervising and my members, like my co-members on the management team, that's sort of been a skill that I've been developing, time organization. When I was a library assistant, I thought that I was busy and I was busy, but when you move into a leadership role, you're juggling a lot more balls in the air. I guess at one time, I did actually just take the one unit leadership course here, another plug because it was amazing. And some of the reading that we did was talking about the difference between management and leadership and what I realized in reading that is that this kind of role, and I'm guessing a lot of roles like this involve management and leadership. So there's time management, there's managing people, other people's time, there's managing projects, there's managing your day-to-day schedule when you've got a lot of meetings and stuff. But then there's also the leadership aspect, which is working with people and visioning for the library and setting priorities and doing strategic planning. A lot of it, I mean, I'm learning on the ground. And I think that people are capable of that, especially people who have taken the step to do a higher level degree like this. That takes a lot of initiative, that takes courage, that takes a belief in yourself. And I think that forms the, I don't know what, the groundwork, the basis to do the other things that you need to learn how to do on the job, especially if you are in a supportive work environment. So, and I would say, you know, from the leadership reading that I did and from my own personal experience, there's tons of different environments in which you can develop those skills. I mean, self-knowledge and working on yourself, you can do that whenever, wherever, through reading, through your relationships with friends, family, children. If you're, you know, in a church group or some other kind of group, take on a leadership role there. And it doesn't have to be, you know, that you are named the leader of that group. It's the way that you conduct yourself there, the relationships that you build with people, the influence that you start to wield and the sort of belief in yourself that starts to come out of taking on those roles and understanding that you can influence other people in a positive way and get to know them and kind of make things happen. So I would say, you know, any opportunity in a class that you're in at San Jose or somewhere else, you know, in your living room with your family or in any group you happen to be involved in, there's opportunities if you're thinking intentionally and authentically that you want to grow as a leader and as a person, you can make that happen almost anywhere that you are in any relationship that you're in. So I'm gonna hand that over to Heather and Anthony. And I would totally agree with you, Dana, that I think a lot of it is just actually watching power and how you use power in every aspect of your life. And this is where good leaders and not so good leaders really need to have a good look at why things aren't working or why they are working it. And from what Julie Diamond says in her book, called Power, Users Guide. I mean, that power dynamic starts in your own families when you're children.  It influences your dynamic when you get to school, when you're in public school or when you're in high school and when you're working in groups and university. There's all sorts of power stuff going on, watch that carefully. And yes, as Dana says, you know, taking leadership roles in whatever aspects of your life you feel you can take leadership roles because you learn so much. And sometimes it's nice to have that learning before you're in like, you know, the CEO position or managing 15 people. Because it is a lot about the interpersonal skills a lot. So I would say, you know, almost anywhere and do read about it and read in different, like I'm reading a book now about, you know, what horses and watching horses can tell us about leadership. So whatever way calls you to do research, you know, it all is very, very helpful in the end. So I, yeah, I think we're ready to go on. Okay, wonderful. I'm just gonna mute your mic for a quick second. Sorry, I was getting some feedback there. I'll put you back on in a minute. Before we just go on, I wanna say we're gonna just skip a bit around in the formal questions here. Sorry, Heather and Dana, I know that's last minute, but I know there's a couple of questions here that are really probably burning on people's minds as we hear them from students all the time. So I wanna make sure we get to those. And I also wanna just pause quickly if anyone has any questions that they are dying to ask at this point before we go on. You can use the chat if you'd like to do that. Perhaps think about that while we're going on, but I'm gonna jump ahead and ask you both what kind of supervisory experience did you have before you took on your first leadership role? I know this is a very common concern for people who are considering leadership roles. They think, oh, well, I couldn't even put myself in that position, I couldn't apply for that because I've never supervised anyone. So tell us a bit about your experiences. I was just gonna say I'll start because my supervisory experience before taking on this role was extremely limited so it won't take me long to talk about it. I started here at St. Thomas Public Library as a library assistant, which was not in any way a supervisory position. And then I covered two maternity leaves as a library services coordinator in our children and teens department. So that was constituted at about a year and a half. And really the leadership that that involved was just supervising and scheduling, well, just. It was supervising and scheduling for part-time staff members in three pages. But it certainly didn't have the sort of strategic planning and visionary components. So I mean, when I applied for this job, I had very little supervisory experience and I went for it anyway. And I would encourage people to do that because I think that the relationship that you have with the people that you're going to be working with, what you bring to the interview, that can make a huge difference.  I'm certainly not gonna say that, but it's what you bring to the interview and the passion that you bring and your willingness to learn. And the skill set that you do have, emphasizing all the strengths you can bring, that's important and you should go for it. Yes, and Heather, one of you asked about advocating for yourself. And this is part of advocating for yourself is taking roles that have functional guidance in them. Because it's kind of nice in a way, and maybe this is my own way of going about doing it. It's kind of nice to ease into a leadership role. So, Dana's role, she would identify issues if there were issues with staff to a manager. And then she and the manager, which was at that point me, we would talk about how we were gonna handle them. And in the talking about how we're gonna handle things, you're learning, right? So do look for those roles and don't shy away from them. That's just the thing. Most of the time when you have issues and if you're worried about supervising people, just know that most of the time you're not doing it alone. I'm not doing it alone. I consult with HR from the city all the time. So don't shy away from them. And we are now, I think there's a trend that we're doing behavioral interviewing. That's where we'd like to go because we want people who have the behaviors that we're looking for. We can teach the skills, but we want to know that they're compassionate people. So in terms of my supervisor experience, like honestly, I didn't even think about it being supervisory. Here I am, I'm not even finished library school, just like Dana and I'm all of a sudden, I think I had three people that I was supervising and I had to come up with programming for children and I had to go to meetings with other children's librarians throughout the system. So don't be afraid to be thrown into it and ask for help for the things that you don't know because most of the time, nobody's minding showing you the ropes and helping you along. There's lots of help out there in different aspects of whatever it is you're struggling with. And from there, I was like a branch supervisor so I tried that for a while and then I was various roles as you heard in this. And each one of them taught me something, but I always had help, always, and someone to talk to about things and hopefully you always will too. So. I can see there's a question in the chat about finding a mentor. Would you like us to answer that one? Yeah, thanks, Dana. I was gonna say that follows along perfectly from Heather's last point. So if whoever wants to address leadership and mentorship, that'd be great if you're wanting to do that.  And so when I was looking for someone to give me some guidance, I did have Heather to turn to because she was my supervisor at the time. So I mean, when I was thinking about going to library school, I went and talked to Heather. When I was thinking about applying for this position that I'm in now, I went and talked to Heather. And that relationship came about quite naturally. That being said, I think you can find a mentor probably, I mean, in the same way that you can find leadership experience, take a look at the people around you, take a look even at family members or at members of groups that you're part of or even, you know, a professor at school that you feel that you have a good relationship with and go out on a limb and ask them, tell them what your ambitions are, tell them what you're wanting to do and ask for their advice. I mean, I personally would be flattered if someone asked me those questions. And I think I can't speak for Heather, but she's nodding, but people feel the same way. I mean, that you see them as someone who has something to bring to you and to your journey. I mean, that's flattering. So I mean, look around for people that you respect and admire in any aspect of your life and talk to them about what you're wanting to do and see what they have to say to you. That would be my recommendation. And if you happen to be working in a library, well, that's great, it works out really well. Yes, and I know that this is Heather. I know that our Ontario Library Association actually has a mentorship program. And so people who want to mentor sign up and then those who want to be mentored in the different aspects of librarianship, and we all know that it's a very broad field, there's opportunity for them to chat. But as Dana says, your mentor may not be your supervisor or your CEO. I think you have to know your leader, the person you're working for or your CEO or whatever to see whether or not this is the kind of mentorship that you're looking for. It isn't always, but I get calls from people who want to ask questions, who want some advice. And in my thinking, you are the future of librarianship and why wouldn't we want to be helping the future? Because if you're, I mean, I'm still as passionate about libraries as I was when I first started in this career and we want it to continue, we want it to be healthy. So why wouldn't we help? Cold call, I mean, if they say no, move on to someone else. I can see, I mean, you're from some pretty amazing areas with some pretty amazing libraries. Give it a try, like really. Oh, yes, somebody is even talking about mentorship programs, good, good. Yes, take advantage of them. All right. I think it sounds like both of you said, don't rely just on one person to give you all that advice and mentorship. Turn to whoever you need to at the time, it sounds like. Yes. I really want to get to this next question. So I'd ask Dr. Almond to make sure that we put this on the screen. The question is, what do you feel is most important for LIS students to know about leadership? I can jump in and start, it's Dana. I would say that doing leadership well involves more introspection and a deeper understanding of human psychology than you might at first expect. I think people may go into it thinking, it's all very skills-based and the skills are important. I'm certainly not saying that they're not. But a lot of it is about that relationship building piece. It's about getting to know the people with whom you're working on a day-to-day basis, the people that you're attempting to lead, and really getting to know yourself. I think I can't stress enough how important it is to understand your own strengths and your own limitations because that allows you to be an authentic person. And when you're being an authentic person, then you're able to be an authentic leader. Those relationships will happen more naturally. That being said, you do need to intentionally focus on relationships and understanding yourself the way that you're relating to other people and authentically getting to know them, listening to them, understanding where they're coming from, and hearing them. And hearing does not necessarily have to mean agreeing. And I think that was something I would emphasize as well. You can hear people without agreeing with them. And I think that's an important thing to understand when you're a leader. I think I would also say that taking on increased levels of responsibility, it sounds scary, but it can be incredibly fulfilling. And I think it's worth the risk if you think it's something that you might want to do. I would say go for it because it can be a real opportunity for growth and very satisfying. And also, I guess on a personal note, if you're moving up in an organization, your relationships with your former coworkers are going to change. Not all your friendships are going to disintegrate. I'm certainly not suggesting that, but your relationships with people will change. So be ready for that if you're looking at internal movement. I think those would be my sort of main insights. And that, yeah, I guess what we were saying before, you can learn to lead from wherever you are. And you can lead from wherever you are. So build your confidence, your sense of self, your ability to form trust-based relationships with people, work on those things. Because then you will be heading in the right direction no matter where you currently are in your work life. Over to Heather. Dana, how can I follow that? No, I agree with all of that. It's knowing yourself is one of the most important things. Do everything you can to know who you are, to know how you deal with others. And there are a variety of ways of doing that, but that's so important. And I think that it is true that the higher up you get, the lonelier the position can be. And Dana talked about this earlier on, that, and she had the experience of going from being a coworker to all of a sudden being a manager. And it is lonelier as you move up. And you sort of have to accept that, but it is extremely fulfilling. This libraries are one of the most resilient places, I think. Because we were looking at extinction in many people's minds and look at where we are now and we continue to mold and change ourselves to meet the needs of our public and to try to keep up with technology, that takes a lot of resilience. So keep your skills, do try to keep up with the technology in your libraries, do get to know yourself as well as possible. And also, I think it's really important to learn how to put your ego aside, that bringing your ego to a leadership role it can be really harmful. So I watch leaders talk about my library and my staff and I always think, but that's not correct. You know, you're the library staff, we're all the library staff. And feeling as though you're all in this together, that yes, you're the figurehead, you're the one who will talk to the press if something goes wrong. You're the one they call when, you know, the roof's leaking or somebody's doing drugs in the washroom, but really we're all in this together. So the respecting, the respect of other people, no matter what their station is really, really important. So I think that, yeah, that pretty well covers it. Wonderful, thank you. This is another really important question and I hope you can touch on it in a time we have left. So when you're thinking about students who are in the program or thinking about entering the program, what are some ways that you suggest that they can practice leadership skills when they might not have a job that has that title or other ways that they can start to prepare themselves to take on that role? Sure, I can start, it's Dana. So I think a few of these things have been touched on in things that we've been saying so far. One of the first things I thought was observe other leaders and observe the way that people react to them, observe the way that they kind of live out their relationships with other people with whom they work and think about leaders with whom you're working. What do you like about the way that they're interacting with you? What do you not like? What do you think about the decisions that they're making and the way that, like what direction they're taking their organization in? Really think critically and intentionally about those things. I would say, and again, we've touched on this a few times, but I can't sort of over-emphasize it. Get to know yourself, what are your strengths? Where do you think you need to improve and start thinking about what you could do to strengthen yourself? What could you do to learn more? And then own what you learn about yourself. When you figure out what your strengths are, really own them, believe in them. You do have something to contribute. Share your ideas and take risks because you might be surprised by how people react to your thoughts and your insights. And I would also say, own what you don't know. Don't be afraid to ask questions and don't be afraid to be wrong. Don't be afraid to learn from your mistakes and don't be afraid to learn from other people. Just because you're in a leadership role doesn't mean you have to know everything. It's a wonderful opportunity to come into contact with people who have so much to offer, both the organization that you're working for and you as a growing leader, take that time, ask those questions and learn from other people. Humble yourself in that way. I think it's so important. I would say also intentionally and deliberately working on building trust-based relationships with people. That can be family members, friends. It can be people that you're in school with. I mean, from the reading that I've done to in the leadership course that I just took, credibility and accountability are cornerstones of good leadership. And I do believe that from my own limited experience as well. So think about that. Do reading around it. What would make you more credible? What would make you more accountable and try to live those things out in your day-to-day life? And then, I mean, any context that you can find in which you can practice these skills? Like, are you in a group? Do you belong to, yeah, a church group or something like that? Where can you lead from? Where could you try these things out? And then, of course, take on any opportunities for increased responsibility where you're working and try these skills. And I would plump for the San Jose leadership course. It really was great. So over to Heather. Wonderful, thanks, Dana. I think one of the things that leaders, I know I struggled with and that is fear. And I think that working through fear, I know this is often a career that is, maybe not so much anymore with the technology part, but it used to attract a lot of introverts. And I remember being at a conference and the speaker saying, listen, you need to speak. We all need to speak. It doesn't matter if you're afraid of public speaking. You have to find a voice. You have to get out there and you've got to do it.  I still am in my heart of hearts, but in order to be a leader, you have to find your voice and you have to use it. And it goes with, for a lot of skills in leadership. You know, when your boss asks you to do something, like in my case, it was to coordinate the renovation of a library. And she said, I think you can do it. And she said, what do you think? I'll give you time to think about it. But I just said yes. And it was the best thing I ever did. Was it easy? No. But I mean, amazing skills came out of that. Amazing knowledge of things that I had nothing, no knowledge about. And it just makes you a broader person. So I would suggest say yes. And use your library associations. I know they have student rates. I know they have mentorship programs. I know that, you know, they allow you to go to conferences for less money. Do that because you make contacts. Ask for people's business cards. They could be potentially your mentor. They could be potentially your next employer. So say yes. Take chances. Believe in yourself and be assertive about yourself. I think we've answered that. Thank you. Wonderful. Just before we get on to our last question, I want to open the floor again quickly. If anyone has a burning question that they want to ask them for their data. And perhaps while they're thinking about that, you can see on our screen, I'd like to ask you if there's anything that you'd recommend people read, a book or two? Or Dana, you talked about you're doing a lot of reading, presumably good articles that have influenced you. What do you suggest? Oh, sure. So I have a couple of suggestions. It's Dana. There are a lot of great articles on leadership from the Harvard Business Review. So I would suggest going online and searching leadership. You can do that. I think through the San Jose databases or through the Harvard Business Review website, because there's some wonderful articles in there. I would also suggest one book that I really found helpful was Drive by Daniel Pink. Another one is Influenced by Robert Cialdini. Those are both about just understanding how people tick. And I think it's helpful for getting to know yourself, helpful for getting to know other people. And a book that I just read for the leadership course that I keep going on about was Credibility by James. I think it's Kutsis and Barry Posner. And that is, as far as I understand it, one of the kind of seminal books in the field. And I found it incredibly influential in my thinking. So those would be, I guess, my top three books and some recommendations for articles. And I'm just, this Heather, I'm going to plug Julie Diamond's Power, a user's guide. Because in it, you actually can work through, it's a fairly lengthy process, but it's the entire questionnaires in the back of the book. And you can figure out what your power print is. And I think that's really, really important. It's all about knowing thyself, right? So pick that up. It's really a great book. Thank you. Sorry, just to lag there when I was typing those authors and titles into the chat for everyone. We are coming just two minutes to the hour. So I'm hoping, if anyone has a last question, they put it in the chat now. We don't want to go over time. We know people have to leave. But in the meantime, I want to thank Heather and Dana so very much for joining us for our series and for being so candid and open and informative about their jobs and their experiences and hopefully inspiration to those of you who are considering a leadership role. Any last words, Heather and Dana? You know what? If anybody wants to contact us, we are more than open to being contacted. Yes, answering questions. And we're just really pleased to be here. It's an honor. Thank you. Well, thank you both so much. And thank you to our participants. We look forward to seeing you at our next three webinars in the series. We have a question here about a list of topics for upcoming webinars. If you go to the San Jose School of Information website, we do have a list of all of our upcoming speakers. We're going to be featuring the University Librarian from the King Library, Kelvin Watson from Broward County Library, and Melissa Fraser Arnaut from the Library of Parliament in Canada. So we will be, however you found out about this webinar, you'll see the links for those upcoming series pushed out to you through the marketing team at the iSchool as well too.


Think tech away civil engagement lives here. I'm Marcia Joyner and this is cannabis chronicles a 10,000 year odyssey So tell me news of that plant of many resources Which wandered far and wide the ancient plant of food fuel fiber Cultivated for millennia as We venture through the past 10,000 years we will explore and discover the plant From which cannabis derives the many uses of the plant hemp cannabis Ashes Cannabis and religion Cannabis and medicine cannabis and dear old uncle Sam and so our odyssey begins Today our odyssey is not long ago and far away. In fact, it is current and in progress So we have invited My dear friend and everybody knows I only invite dear friends my dear friend senator Mike Gabber Who will talk today about? hemp the hemp industry Where we're going with this industry and all of the wonderful benefits of the hemp industry and what it can do or Hawaii So aloha senator aloha Marcia. Thank you so much. Thank you This is such a pleasure and it's it's an auspicious date because actually June 5th through the 10th is hemp history week Yes, so this is a very appropriate. Good timing. Good timing. Who decided on hemp history week? It goes back many years, but it's celebrated here I didn't know Maui to have a whole the whole week-long celebration. I'm not sure what their activities are this week. Yeah, that's great Yeah, hemp week. Yeah, so let's talk about hemp. What is hemp? well, it's a a lot of people have a misunderstanding of What hemp is it is a cousin of marijuana cannabis? But the difference is is that the THC content for hemp is only three tenths of 1% Versus 10 to 30 percent for marijuana. So you cannot get high on hemp and this is one of the things that I had to convince my colleagues of because of that So many years a stigma attached to industrial hemp is just the same thing as marijuana But and it's interesting Marcia because the the story you talk about the odyssey with the local odyssey for hemp actually began in 1999 When the legislature passed a bill that would allow a three-year study to grow hemp out in Wahiwa It was a privately funded no taxpayer dollars. I think it was $200,000 It was a hemp shampoo maker from the mainland that wanted to see how hemp grew in Hawaii And so with the passage of that law in 1999, Hawaii became the first state to plant hemp since World War two And during the World War two efforts, there was hundreds of thousands of acres that were used the For that purpose, but this was the first Hawaii was the first state and so The results of that three-year study Was that the Chinese variety of seed was the best fit for Hawaii's climate, etc. And December 14th 1999 governor Kaetano proclaims industrial hemp day Hawaii 1999 and Then as unfortunately the wheels of government tend to go very slow sometimes If you know what I mean, it's 1999. We have the results of the study 2014 a very dear friend of mine John Rogers who had cancer at the time he said Mike Why don't you look at the possibility of our farmers here in Hawaii growing industrial hemp? So I said, yeah, okay, sure. We checked out a film. It was Bringing it home. It's the name of the documentary By Linda Booker and it was excellent because it told the history It told all that gave the facts about industrial hemp. So then in 2014 I introduced a bill Remember now 1999 15 years later, but you know during that period from 1999 to 2014 There were actually 43 pieces of legislation that were introduced related to hemp So in 2014 I introduced a bill that would allow our farm actually, let me backtrack It was actually President Obama in his farm bill of 2014 at the federal level In added a clause saying Farmers would be allowed to grow hemp if it was through the State Department of Agriculture And or through their University for research purposes, right? So that was the entree So I said, okay, so why don't we do a local level bill and allow our farmers to do it?  I wasn't on any of the committees and low and behold the final result of the bill was They turned it into a two-year study Another study and I'm thinking does anybody ever read studies So I'm thinking we had the three-year study in 1999 Do we really anyway? So in the course of the hearings that the bill actually it was interesting Marsha because HPD officer from HPD came in and To testify and his testimony was well look actually in a private conversation. He said look You know our dilemma is this we pull somebody over for speeding and We're giving writing the ticket and low and behold we look on the side next to the driver and there's a baggy now senator How can we tell whether that's hemp or marijuana? And I remember looking at the officer and saying officer The likelihood of somebody having a baggy of industrial hemp Which you cannot get high on because the THC content is three tenths of one percent the likelihood of have somebody having that on their seat next to him driving is slim to none and The officer said hmm. I see your point Look at this And so it got turned into a two-year study so Professor Harry Ako from UH was in charge of the study. So he orders the seed to grow 11 months later He was able to get the seed because the DEA the Drug Enforcement Agency the federal they Got the seed and they do not want to release it right 11 months So finally in April of 2015 we have the Kahoo comes There's a blessing out at the Waimanalo site for you aged plant the seed It's wonderful. Here we go and then about 16 weeks later almost to the day heard from Dr. Ako to come out for the harvest and I remember thinking 16 looked at my calendar and I said wow, I mean how tall can the plants be so a drive out there I got out there a little early and and as I'm parking my car Look, there's this figure and he's kind of against the backdrop of This this plant this plant one of the plants. Yeah, that's a stalk. This is actually from the study Marsha the shortest plant was 10 feet tall. This is most of the plants were 10 This is almost 8 feet. I would guess yeah 8 to 9 feet tall Most of the plants were 12 to 16 feet tall and and there's Dr. Ako and he's kind of almost dancing and you look at our back room. Yeah And he's saying hey, I said Harry you were kind of a skeptic at the beginning. He said what's your thoughts now? And he said we got to do this in Hawaii said senator look at this and The punchline was this Marsha from seed to this in 16 weeks and all we used was water No fertilizer no pesticide nor is I just water and so Professor Ako had to submit his study to the legislature for the 2016 legislature and I'll quote him right here. He says Hem seed production may become a lucrative activity for farmers There is significant potential for a successful hemp ag industry in Hawaii based on the preliminary findings of the 2015 industrial hemp research project and so given that 2016 I introduced another bill The second bill and this one would set up the five-year pilot program it passes and then also during 2016 we find that there's a Coach a former NB coach Don Nelson who lives at Sugar Beach Maui He's built his guest house is a law guest house 850 square feet out of hemp Crete. Yes, not concrete Using the stalks of the hemp plant with lye and water and so they invite me to come over I'm walking to this thing. I'm going this is incredible and not only that he's going to build his 4500 square foot home and back of the guest home out of hemp Crete, so they had this big dinner and and I Make a presentation from the Senate and then they had a surprise presentation for me a little award a little plaque and I was voted the 2016 Hempster of the year I Have that plaque in my office at the Capitol prominently display I have some that hamster of the year for 2016 and so it passes it sets up the the The pilot program and then in 2017 I introduced the third bill and this would basically just kind of fine-tuning Makes it so that the counties cannot ban cannot override the state. There were some other things that farmers could apply year-round That was in 2017 And then in 2018 I introduced the fourth bill related to hemp and basically that sets up a special fund So that the fees that the farmers pay to get their License fees or if there's any fines or it would go into this fund Which would help self-fund the hemp program the hemp pilot program So the four bills have passed and as I mentioned altogether 1999 2018 47 pieces of legislation to get to where we are today So that is the hemp Odyssey Hawaii in a nutshell now we have talked to Farmers on the big island who are working with the Department of Agriculture to Create a plant a seed that is endemic right to Hawaii right and Needless to say they're they're very excited about the possibilities So We're gonna take a break and when we come back We're gonna talk about all of these wonderful products that you bought us. Okay made of hemp sounds good. Okay. Thank you Everyone I'm Andrea Gabriele The host for young talents making way here and think that Hawaii we talk every Tuesday at 11 a.m About things that matters to tack matter to science to the people of Hawaii with some Extraordinary guests the students of our schools who are participating in science fair So young talents making way every Tuesday at 11 a.m. Only on think-tack Hawaii mahalo I'm Marcia, and we are back With my dear friend senator Mike Gabbard, and we are talking about The senator bought lots of things with him Let's start over here. Can we see the briefcase? Oh Here's a hemp briefcase that my staffer gave to me And this is made out of all of made out of hemp. Yeah, here's a hemp shirt What is this? Does it feel it looks like plastic? Yeah, it does. I'm not sure of all the other ingredients besides hemp But obviously from stocks. Yeah, yeah so and then At least our count shows over 25,000 different products made Here's a hemp shirt made out of hemp and the aloha shirt that I have on is also made out of hemp That's beautiful. Right and then we've got different products here This is with hemp and chia. Here's hemp seeds toasted hemp seeds hemp milk and hemp protein smoothie and here's one actually from a company on the main Excuse me on the big island mana artisan botanics. It's a CBD tincture and what they're doing is they're making these pure hemp extracts using Hawaiian herbs and so they're already on the cutting edge of this thing and so the whole idea of Course that I've had the vision that I've had from the very beginning was to Hawaii branding, right absolutely with the Hawaiian hemp shampoo Hawaiian grandola Hawaiian hemp smoothies and this one the hemp milk Yes, delicious. It is and you can buy it now This is not an ad but I can tell you you can buy it at the Market on University King Street where King and down there's not down to earth the other one. Oh kakua Okay, yeah, the earth has some whole foods has I'm pretty sure all of them. Yeah, they had I don't know This is not this brand but they have a hemp Yeah, but I wanted to mention this Marsha because a lot of people don't realize this but Last year 2017 the hemp Industries Association. They did an estimate $688 million in retail sales of products like this and here's the punchline Most of that money went to China mm-hmm and to Canada because it is against the law in United States to grow because of Jeff sessions. It's on the I don't want to get political here, but it's on the control subs. It's been out of control substance list since 1970 we have and therefore, that's why we we have Dr. Otto, you know Dr. Yes, Dr. Cliff. He has worked tirelessly. Yes to change that. Yes Yes, and our legislation I have to put in a plug because our congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard She has been working and let me just give you a quick update because for your viewers It's stop. It's Rep. James Comer a Republican from Kentucky HR 5 are 85. That's the bill in the house has six co-sponsors which includes Tulsi and then on the Senate side Mitch McConnell also a Republican from Kentucky. He's got 27 co-sponsors Which include our senators her own on shats on those bills So that basically what both bills will do is that it will remove industrial hemp from the control substance list Yes, and see it's just when you think about it control substance Peruvian LSD marijuana and all of us derivatives including yes hemp even though you can't get high on hemp So so anyway, so at least at the federal level if and when that happens and hopefully it's going to be sooner than later Then that's going to solve all our problems. Our farmers will be able to just start growing hemp. Yes, and also in the Congress there is a Cannabis caucus In the in the house yeah cannabis caucus now Just a little this is not off the subject. Yeah Your fellow legislators Some of them are scared Because of Jeff sessions and his threats What can we do? How can we and I don't mind doing whatever you say To educate them About what we're talking why so there is no fear to get rid of the fear. Yeah, how do we do that? You know Marsha? I think And we have to make the distinction between hemp and marijuana, right? So as far as hemp They're all on board when they finally learned when they were educated as to what this is What it is and what it can do for our economy for that's what we're talking about now in terms of And then of course we have medical marijuana We do and then they're you know the dispensaries are having their issues and then if you start moving into legalizing marijuana No, I'm not going there. Okay. You're not going. Okay. I wasn't sure so yeah. Yeah, I'm just talking about what we have yeah, because The Supreme Court says that Jeff sessions can't mess with medical Right, right, but yet we have people that are afraid. Yeah, that's right. So how do we how do we deal with that? I think they're just you know education where at Town hall meetings and legislators communicating with their constituents at any opportunity perhaps through TV through social media So that people understand and that's been the biggest problem is people just they're confused I remember constituents in my district. They said, oh, senator. Oh, you want to legalize marijuana? I said no, I want to legalize the growing of industrial and it's a separate issue We can talk about that at a different time Let's talk about this and then when they found out about it the 25,000 different products with the Hawaii branding You know the guy strumming is ukulele and the girl doing the hula on the label and how wonderful this is they go Oh, oh, wow, that's great. Let's do this the the mayor of Kauai sitting right where you are and We're talking about the possibilities of farming and what have you and you could see this Look in his face and I had to assure him That we're not talking about adult Pleasures we are talking a farming industry and his whole demeanor change See that's it. Yeah, so when people get educated, especially policy makers when they understand what we're talking about here and that and how Great this is going to be for the Hawaii economy and I have to tell you a quick story because I was at the national hemp conference last year and So we're talking story with some my counterparts from all over the country and I they've got like 12,000 acres of hemp growing right now in Kentucky because tobacco farmers, you know, it's gone fewer people are smoking Therefore there goes their livelihood. So they're looking at industrial hemp as a replacement crop But I was talking to him. I said look dude, you got no chance when Hawaii starts When they have the Hawaii hemp shampoo Hawaii hemp granola, etc. Etc. Who's gonna buy Hawaii? I mean, who's gonna buy Kentucky hemp shampoo when they can get the you know, and I said and by the way 9 million tourists come to Hawaii and each one of them they want to take home a little bit of Hawaii when they leave You know, and then I looked at one of the others and I said another thing I wanted to bring up was up in Hawaii We have three harvest a year Colorado, how many do you have the guys like this and he goes? This year around So yeah, that's what we were talking about the fact that this this this is of course But what the senator bought me from which way did this one this was the first the 2015 study Yeah, and then after 16 weeks and we harvest it in July of 2015. Yeah Yeah, so I'm just I got a few stairs by the way when I was walking down the studio Fishing Yeah, well, you know that would be good for fishing because it wouldn't pollute whatever. Yeah, so many uses So many it's just up to yes, and then here's another thing and actually there is a Maui hemp research Institute And they've been doing work on okay, so the farmers plant all this hemp they start so what do we do with it? Right, how can we start? What's the processing and that all is being worked out as we speak, but I remember Last year a year before we had an info informational briefing at the Capitol and and Steve rose from the Maui research Hemp and he came up to me. He looked at me. He says senator Toilet paper. Yes, I looked at him. I went My toy he said he said toilet paper we import 100% of our toilet paper They are making hemp toilet paper in China right now as we speak And since you brought up It takes 27,000 trees to supply the United States with toilet paper each week Wow, there you go. There you go. Yes, and we have 10 as the chair of the agriculture committee in the Senate We have of course. I'm my primary Interest right now is is helping grow more of our local food since we're importing 90% of our food, right? But there are still thousands of acres that we need to be looking into it may not pencil out But the fact is we should be looking at whether it's toilet paper or any of these other products as what's going to work here in Hawaii for our folks And as I told you a friend of mine is really interested in Fuel for 3d printers. Yep. Now when we figured out there was 20 30,000 products made nobody talked about 3d printers. That's right. That's right. That's right, and she is convinced that that's and There's so many people with so many ideas and in the Application online for at the Department of Agriculture Agriculture It asks you now if you're they say you have to have 10 Acres can't go over 10 acres 10 acres. You got to have and And your life annual license fee is 250 dollars. Okay, and it says What is your end product? You go you have to say what it is? Okay? I'm gonna grow this now what and for me. It's the now what yeah, yeah Then what are we doing to do? Yeah, okay? I've got this beautiful crop and I'm gonna harvest it then what where do I send it? Who do I give it to what are they? Right gonna do with it right and those are the questions. I think we need to that's where we need to deal It's the what if what what now? That's right, and that's you know when I was given this a while ago I was told that these they're like thirty five dollars for like an ounce and a half and this is very I mean Epileptics are using this all different types of medicinal medicinal purposes Alcoholics are using all different types of wonderful thing. So this is it is going to make a lot of money So so I guess the question is if I grow this I don't have 10 acres, but if I had What what would be the next step? What do I? Who picks up this harvest? Where does the harvest grow? Do we have machinery to transfer to turn it into? Right the oils right Where where is that that is that's what's being worked out right now? Okay? That's the piece that needs to be exactly It's a pie. It's a five-year pilot program and those kinds of questions That's what's being looked at right now, and so you know another use that came up at the legislature polystyrene Takeout containers, right? Yes, so there's it's being made locally, and so there's been a bill to introduce to ban it, right? It means a hundred people are going to lose their jobs. I am sure that That can be used exactly absolutely instead of the polystyrene so and I have a friend who makes a suntan lotion without the oxybenzone and oxygen oxy uses the Mineral base. Yeah. Yeah. Oh cool, and it is You know she sells it and at the SWAT meat yeah, yeah, and swells it oh so many people buy Because it doesn't it's great for the skin, and it doesn't kill the Coral and you know if we kill the coral we kill tourism that's right, and When you think of all the things that can be done, right? So I just wanted to add of the Hawaii Farmers Union They did a survey a year or two ago and over a hundred farmers said that they are ready and ready to put MC Into the ground and so now it's just a question of I think there's only been eight Applicants so far and one has been an issue to license because the licenses are just being issued this month in June Right, but I think that people are kind of waiting They're a little cautious because they don't want to jump on they have bandwagon until you know the wrinkles are ironed out and We're we're totally sure it's it's a 100% go so yeah exciting stuff. It is so I and for me it's that okay now what how do I once I harvest this right? That's when what's the next step? That's right. So I think that's what we need to talk about So we you will come back. I will and talk about the next step. Yep. How do we go from here to there? Yep, sounds good great. Thank you so much for coming. This is a real pleasure, and we'll see you next time. Thank you, Marsha


What's good y'all, it's your boy Ross back again with another video. So there's been some interesting things that have happened as of recent, like within the past few hours or whatnot. You guys are hitting me up on Instagram, Twitter and apparently Vince is maybe in a little bit more deeper water than we thought. So we're going to check this article out by CNBC and we're going to get into it, man. WWE Vince McMahon paid more than $12 million to settle sexual misconduct allegations report says this is very big. We knew something was going on where potentially he paid off some people millions, but now we're getting a good estimate, a good number. And that's a lot of money to pretty much tell somebody to be quiet. So let's get right into it.  According to a report by the Wall Street Journal, the woman were all formerly affiliated with the world wrestling entertainment. The journal reported citing people familiar with the agreements and documents. The newspaper reported in June that WWE board was investigating a secret three million dollar settlement. That was the original thing. It was just three million dollars, which is still a lot of money. Now it's bumped up to 12 between four different women in June. The WWE board investigated a secret three million dollar settlement McMahon paid to a paralegal. He allegedly had an affair with in its report. Friday, the journal reported three additional hush money payments between 2006 and 2018, one for 7.5 million to a former wrestler who alleged McMahon coerced her into giving him oral sex and later declined to renew her contract. Oh, I thought do rag Vince was a menace Vince just himself without the do rag was a menace. Oh man, this is definitely heating up.  Another for one million to a woman who had worked as a WWE contractor and said she received unsolicited nude photos from McMahon and a third in the amount of about one million to a former manager who worked with McMahon for a decade. WWE did not respond to CNBC's request for a comment on the latest allegations. Of course, they're not going to respond about that. Um, WWE announced last month that McMahon was stepping back from his role as CEO and chairman, but retaining responsibilities related to the company's creative content pending an investigation into his alleged misconduct. His daughter Stephanie McMahon was named interim CEO. I have pledged to, uh, I have pledged my complete cooperation to the investigation by the special committee and I will do everything possible to support the investigation. The man said in the release in the release at the time. I have also pledged to accept the findings and outcome of the investigation, whatever they are. WWE's board, uh, is investigating McMahon's deal with the wrestler and the former paralegal. The journal reported the WWE board is also investigating allegations against WWE executive John Laurinitis aka people power who used to wrestle under the name Johnny Ace. The investigation which began in April was set off by several anonymous emails that threatened to reveal details of the settlement between McMahon and the former paralegal. The journal reported WWE share prices were down about 1% at 62 64 dollars and 21 cents Friday. Man. Oh man. God. Whoo. Uh, this is this is definitely increased in intensity. My man Vince McMahon was out here getting domed up and not renewing contracts and then say, you know what?  Okay. All right. I can't believe this. This out here sending the nudes man. I think he didn't work up an appetite. I've even worked out. You know what I'm saying? I'm wondering I'm willing to bet.  I'm willing to bet. Y'all know Vince McMahon's office with the giant T-Rex code. I wonder if he was out there sending nudes in the board room in that specific room or maybe getting a blow job while she's looking up behind them and sees the T-Rex. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But all seasons. All let me be serious. Let me just be serious. This is a this is very interesting and I said before this is something I could see happening. I mean Vince McMahon is very powerful when it comes to money very powerful when it comes to a legal team and for him it was probably easier to just throw 7 million or in total 12 million away like here you go. 12 million to Vince is not that much. I'm letting you guys know this now. It's not a lot to him. It's not the most million higher million to billionaires 12 million dollars is like 12 cents. They don't really care. So it's just a hush money and I'm I'm willing to bet you guys want to be honest and maybe I'm getting into my conspiracy bag a lot of the higher ups in a lot of these companies they be into some weird shit and they be doing a lot of weird stuff or some stuff that probably you know people wouldn't like and guess what is pay people off because at the end of the day a lot of these people know they not going to win in court because they have they sometimes even have the judge in a pocket they have the court system in a pocket they have the police in a pocket. So it's really about who you know and how much money you have so for them throwing away a few 12 million dollars for Vince ain't nothing. So I'm not saying that he's did this. This is all speculation but I don't put it past him. It's I don't I don't put it past him because he has that much money and you know there are a lot of attractive women that come into WWE most of them get hired for their attractiveness rather than their skill set. So you know I could see him maybe trying to call her former wrestler and they're doing something and you know she's tired of doing this. She wants to get her contract extended. He's like now I'm good. I'm just pasting much money.  So I don't know. I do see this plausibly being something that Vince would do you know unfortunate it's unfortunate situation. Certain people use their power and leverage they have in the company to take advantage of people and that is not cool. You know I'm saying so this is just one of those type of things we still cannot see how it plays out. But yeah he had to step out. There was no there was no way especially more stuff coming out like this. He definitely had to step down. Now I want to make a comment. So when they commented on the last time we talked about this like oh this is this is Vince McMahon. He created wrestling you know saying it don't matter like y'all should show more respect for Vince McMahon. That comment made me lose brain cells. It doesn't matter if it's Vince McMahon. It doesn't matter who it is. Abusing your power like this is not right. People have been doing it for many many years now but we live in a social media age where people have receipts. It's not okay what Vince was doing. It's not it's not okay. Simple as that. What whether you look at it as oh well they got paid to be quiet but now they're not being quiet. It doesn't matter still not okay even if they accepted the money or what not it's not cool. All I know is stuff like this could definitely ruin your legacy Vince didn't create wrestling by the way. Let's let's not let's not get into that notion either like oh he created wrestling. No he's a important part in wrestling especially in the United States but let's not just act like the mint motherfucking invented wrestling cut it cut the malarkey the point I'm trying to make here is at the end of the day if these allegations are true this is messed up on Vince this is messed up on Vince. I'm not going to be a guy that has this high moral standpoint like I've never done anything bad or you know never done anything that you know wasn't you know wasn't you know my parents or you know people I care about be proud of but I've never done this I'm never abused any type of power I had over anybody else because at the end of the day it's not a cool situation. So once again this is all allegedly into that individual that thought Vince is God and he can never do no wrong need help my brother because we're seeing right now this dude is not who everybody thinks he is he's probably a cool guy probably cool guy to work with but for certain women that may not have been the case you know there's been other stories where people have had some you know not savory things to say about Vince you know and not everybody's perfect or anything like that but this ain't good no matter how you spend it this is not good so comment down below let me know what you guys think about these new allegations that came out do you believe this report do you believe Vince McMahon would do something like this shell out 12,000 not $12 million in hush money to certain people do you believe he would do things like this or do you think this is all some BS and they're just trying to take Vince McMahon down and there's all the grand conspiracy let me know down below but I appreciate all the love and support on the channel roads and I appreciate y'all kicking me see y'all next piece.


What is a course? A course in Moodle is basically a space on the Moodle side where one or more teachers can add learning resources and activities for their students. What your course might look like as a teacher will depend partly on the chosen theme and settings of your administrator. In the latest version of Moodle with the latest boost theme you can expect to see a collapsible navigation drawer on the left and a gear menu on the right. The main content area here is where the actual teaching and learning resources will be added. In SAM's practice course they are numbered topics which can be renamed but if we look at a different course on a different Moodle site you can see that these are divided into weekly sections and there are some blocks on the right. In another video we will look at the use of these blocks. In order to add learning resources you need to have the editing turned on. We do this by clicking the turn editing on button top right. This then displays an edit menu next to each activity and resource for editing the settings, hiding, duplicating, deleting etc. There is an announcement forum here and if I wish to move it into a different section I click the cross hairs icon and I can move it by dragging and dropping. If you aren't able to move by dragging and dropping then ask your administrator to check your browser settings and the Moodle site settings. In order to add files, documents or activities for your students you need to click the link, add an activity or resource in a section where you'd like them to appear. It doesn't matter if you choose the wrong section by mistake because it's always possible to move them afterwards. When you click add an activity or resource this displays Moodle's activity chooser which then allows you to choose what you would like to add and we'll look at this in a separate video. If you don't see the link add an activity or resource ask your Moodle admin again to check your settings. In the next video we look at how you can change the name and layout of your Moodle course.


Write down is this the last four-hour class or the last morning class? Write down dimensional analysis It could have got it wrong But then even if you get it right you get zero because you have to write Whatever you have in terms of whatever you have measured They're not measuring the time period you're measuring hundred times the time period Okay, but to modify the expression itself So if you divide the error by any constant doesn't just divide normally Like if we did what Vikas said if we did 90 by 100 Then you have to divide the error also then okay So when you divide the error you have essentially increased the accuracy of the instrument Which is absurd you can't divide one from hundred and then say accuracy is now one by hundred Understood accuracy remains one second Whether you measure one time period hundred time period whatever it is All right, but mathematically it may come out to be same answer it may But that will be a wrong method. I can devise a question in such a way that if you do like this will get a wrong answer Okay All right, so dimension analysis, so at the start of the chapter itself we have Assert him or we have found out that there are seven dimensions in this universe It's a no mass length time quantity temperature Luminous intensity and what else? I want a substance Current okay, so if there is a derived quantity all those derived quantities can be written in terms of these dimensions Hmm now these fundamental dimensions now the thing is that suppose Let's say it doesn't make sense to add mass with the length right kg with one meter doesn't make any sense or meter with Time of one second with one meter doesn't make any sense Okay, this you can understand pretty well when I take the example of the basic quantities itself But this is true also for the derived quantities What I'm saying is you can't add velocity with the acceleration one meter per second adding to two meter per second square is Absurd Okay, so when you're adding the two quantities the dimension should match That is when you have that formula v zero to u plus 80 You're multiplying a with t so that meter per second square becomes meter per second Meter per second square multiplying with seconds that become meter per second then you add Okay, so we are going to use this property of universe having seven basic dimensions to Do some analysis and using dimension analysis? You will see that it is it is a very very strong concept Because there cannot be any exception to it. No formula Seven exception of whatever I'm saying that you know you can't add two dimensions Which are different? Okay, similarly when you write force is equal to mass and maturation that equation must be correct dimensionally also Dimension of force should be equal to dimension of mass into dimension of acceleration Are you getting it so when you're equating their dimensions must be equal This is what we are trying to do in the analysis of the dimension Okay, so before we get into the dimension analysis We'll first write down the basic things that are required us to keep in our mind to do the analysis Okay, write it down Okay So an equation Can be dimensionally correct may not be true What do I mean when I say this? The dimensions my dimensions may match. Yeah, but actually that equation has no meaning to it rivers can never happen equation which is Not Dimensionally correct can never be true fine So the implication of this itself is that you write down Two physical quantities cannot be added or subtracted if the dimensions are not same Two physical quantities cannot be added whose dimensions are different Cannot be added or subtracted both, but when we write the dimension of anything Okay, when we write dimension of anything for example, let's say dimension of speed Unit is meter per second The way we write dimension is this We take a square bracket like this Okay, we should write seven dimensions over here Universe has seven dimension But since in our class 11 entire 11th is about more or less mechanics itself mentioned which are defining the mechanics which are what mass length and time only Okay, but it doesn't only three dimension you have to write suppose I bring in You know magnetism or current then you have to use ampere also Okay, but right now. We just need three dimensions Which are mass length and time? Okay, so if you know that the speed is meter and second like this dimension as mass to the power zero It has no dimension of mass Okay length to the power one and time to the power minus one So this is the dimension of this is a dimension of you can you know treat like universe has seven corded access One corded access for mass other corded access for length other coordinates for time like that's seven coordinates are there so caught the speed lies in this L1 t-1 coordinate if something lies Okay, so this is the dimension of speed similarly, you know Simple example speed. I want you to write down dimension of these things. Please write it down. There's things quickly right now Gravitational potential energy K is kinetic energy then I say she will be what dimension? zero L1 t-2 Is a no, what about force dimension of forces Multiply mass with it. It'll be m1 L1 t-2 Candy edges half mv square M1 What about gravity potential energy Mgh Next one is minus one M1 Minus two you can check you know Energy is mg edge So this is dimension of dimension of mg edge is equal to dimension of mass Into dimension of g into dimension of edge Dimension of mass is m dimension of g acceleration LT-2 Dimension of edges L when you multiply it becomes L square fine Okay, now we know that one energy can get converted into another form of energy. We know this or not Okay, so all of the units must be same All the energies have this unit does not matter what kind of energy we are talking about Okay, it doesn't matter Whether it's kind energy potential energy electrostatic energy magnetic energy whatever crap you can think of all has Same dimension all kinds of forces will have the same dimension similarly Because you are adding in subtracting forces Okay, now if I know already if I know that you know if I know that Some variable depends on few little later first let us go slow for example Let's take this one s equal to ut plus half 80 square now Tell me does it make a dimension sense dimension. It doesn't make sense If it is making sense then what should happen Dimension of length should be equal to dimension of what? ut and 80 square dimension should also be ut dimension is length Dimension of a into t square is also length meter per second square into second square if I know that The time period of time it depends with you. I'm trying to say that time period depends Accession due to gravity G Okay, okay now using dimension analysis Can you derive the formula you once I tell you it become very straightforward And come up with the expression time period depends on Length and G Depends on length it could be length to the power eight and G to the power But not like this I mean although you got it correct What if if you don't know it is who tell by G no No, I got this because I wanted to get No, I wanted to get it in terms of Okay, see you can see I want you to do it the way it is Generate because the formula may be very complicated you may not be able to visualize that you know L by G and the root of that is second I mentioned are getting it. There should be generic way to do it Length so let's say T is proportional to length to the power a Also is proportional to let's say G to the power so T should be equal to some constant K times and to the power a G to the power B Understood yes or no Constant has usually no dimension here assuming that this constant has zero dimension Okay, now this is the equation. Can you write a dimensional equation dimension of T is M? 0 L 0 T 1 this is dimension of T This should be equal to dimension of K multiplied by dimension of L to the power a multiplied by dimension of G to the power B K is what nothing So this is dimension of L is L to the power a This is team mine. I am ignoring anything has it having powers 0 So here I have written M to the power 0 to the power 0, but there I have not written M Okay So this is equal to M 0 plus B And T to the power minus 2B So minus 2B should be equal to B will be minus 2B minus 1 by 2 and A should be what? A plus B should be 0 So A should be equal to plus 1 by 2 now come back here T will be equal to minus 1 by 2 so it become T equal to K times root L by G Understood so this method you can use if you know on what physical parameter Your expression should depend on Recreating a force should depend on mass and force should depend on acceleration If you have decided on the dimension of force You'll get the value of an expression how it is That you can find experimentally To derive an expression Okay, so when you put equal to minus half you'll get T is equal to K times L to the power minus half So this will be equal to K under root L by G And experimentally you can find out the value of K is 2 pi There's a question in let's say J advanced or J mains Most probably it will be on dimensional analysis only And good thing it's a straight forward topic So that's it for today Sir, could you give us another one of these questions? I'll give you homework Give me the book Good that you reminded me Homework Book Physics Sentimental All of you have that book, right? Yes sir Yes sir Say how many times do you have to write the book? No, wait, I'll write it Okay All of you please note down See there is a section Page 3.19 Page 3.19 There is a section of J mains It is written J mains Okay, complete that exercise That in a question it will be written as significant figures significant digits So whenever you see that phrase in the question you leave it That will be doing next class Only significant figures we have not done yet Okay, apart from we have done 99% of the chapter So this is stop talking Question number 1 to 40 These are objective question One question will take hardly two minutes So 14 to 2 1 hour 20 minutes So you have one week 168 hours So 1 hour 20 minutes Okay, for J mains And if you are targeting J advanced So that is your target Complete the book So this is book 1 right Yeah, module 1 Module 1 Those who are targeting J advanced Please complete the book Complete module 1 by next Not module 1 book Complete the book as in complete the Chapters Question You can do that Let's see Okay So those who are targeting J advanced There is no limit Even if we have not done significant figures Struggle a little bit That struggle is your learning If you don't struggle If you directly look at the solution All the solution is not available right now It's always me Okay, so if you struggle That is your learning If you are not struggling You are not learning anything Remember that