with gamma rays getting bit by radioactive spider I don't know these things seem to have a lot more connective tissue than force field that everyone else passing through to radioactivity alters the structure of your body and spider bites do actually do shit to you like super serum injections like we inject people with things to literally make them stronger that's real so that's intuitive it sort of follows from from logic I think it's just think about all of the sort of main characters we've had so far Iron Man builds his suit after he realises that the weapons that he created were being used for evil purposes so it's like that's pretty cool Captain America earns the right to become a super soldier because he is of good moral fiber he is just a good man Thor has to earn his powers back by learning to have some humility and of course Bruce Bannagas powers by doing experiments that he you know it was his experiments that he was doing Doctor Strange his hands got destroyed so we had to learn how to create magic I guess Ant-Man's a little bit less but even Ant-Man's got like more of a connection is it similar to Cap in terms of he was given the suit because they believe that he's the right man for the job and even if you do like the whole Spider-Man thing it's like yeah it was coincidence though not that he shot an engine and then it splashed him in space goo these are all accidents that like have nothing to do with the journeys Captain Marvel didn't even know why she shot that engine she was like I don't know to keep it from you guys having it it's like what is it what do you even think that means and the big thing is like how do you so a radioactive spider bites Spider-Man so he gets spider powers okay I shot a space engine from the Tesserac therefore I can shoot lasers out of my hands and survive that space and I'm invulnerable and I can travel faster than light now there are a few connective thoughts missing here yeah and as for Monica you're like well if you guys didn't know that she was gonna have superpowers right and you said she went through the barrier three times and she gained powers what do you think they would be it's like I have no idea I don't know what I'd have to think about it honestly meanwhile like a spider what could you imagine like maybe some kind of like ability to crawl onto surfaces that would be unusual maybe like webbing is involved in some way maybe heightened senses I don't know proportional strength yeah that could be yeah and to me it just comes across as like I don't know they worked a little harder to make this light up instead of so now because she went through the barrier three times she can travel at the speed of presumably sound I don't know how fast she can travel it's really fucking fast if she could create force fields I could buy like if she went through the force field and could create now barriers and force fields to protect people I can understand that but she's got these vague I can now let bullets shit out my ass powers you know my eyes glow and I can do superhero landing pose now if I was going to give her a power give her the power to like create barriers yeah because it would make at least more sense sense yeah like I passed through this magical barrier three times which is the magic number so I get to like create I can do like violet from the Incredibles I could like create force field barriers and I could deal with she has the ability to pass through walls or something as well maybe yeah that sort of lines up she can turn to jelly involving barriers and walls you know she can she can move really fast she can see energy in the world I guess it's not really clear what that is she's like seeing energy and electricity it's like okay that doesn't really go anywhere and yeah and she can she can turn to jelly bullet proof because bullet and she's not even like bullet proof the bullets go into her and then they slow down and they go out of her at the other side it's a really thick jelly like a just what a what it's like sludge it's like MCU sludge in a person that's an incredibly useful power that isn't very sexy it's a weird power that she didn't know she had well you know what I should save that conversation we could do it now I guess I was coming up with this last night I did it with Fringy so he's not going to be able to do it this time around but basically I guess I'll describe the events of the scene and then it'll be up to you guys to see if you can spot all of the floors the least the ones that I found and then we can add more to them if you want but it's like a fun little um a sort of guessing game I would I would suppose like I've got I think 10 so the the scene goes that um Wanda's children manage to mind control the soldiers in the area to not fire their weapons and also take their weapons from them and then Haywood seeing this gets out of his truck and shoots and before anyone comments or anything right I'm just describing the events as are he shoots and Monica says no and gets in the way the bullets go through here sludge wise and then we were at the point where um Haywood is like oh my goodness and then tries to leave um if you guys remember that scene I'm going to put on screen all of the uh the issues as I saw them and see between you if you can guess them all we'll do it like a little I'll just tick them as I go everyone who's watching the stream can see them you guys aren't allowed to look all right you guys gotta try and guess them all we can't look well I'm going to put all of the issues as I found them on the screen and so chat can see them and I will cross them off okay so we I won't look okay won't look all right so again we can't look at the scene or the list oh you can look at the scene if you want just don't look at the the stream oh okay okay I don't have the stream maybe I get my chat covering yeah there's a whole this this should be fun all right so chat you can sort of he's shooting he's shooting between the children is like I shall not readjust his aim like he shoots in the middle of them and then he keeps shooting at at Monica even though he could readjust and murder the children that way the criticism they would be that he's like missing all of his shots almost deliberately he is yeah there's a couple things specifically with the gun firstly the slide is CGI I think they didn't just marvel with their kajillions of dollars they didn't give him blanks to shoot which would have been very very convincing the slide is just sort of CGI not only that but he seems to be surprised that he can run out of bullets and also the slide doesn't lock back when he empties the last shot when he's clearly using a clock big oversight why didn't the kid take his gun if they took everyone else's gun why wouldn't he throw his gun if everyone else was frozen why did Monica Rambo decide to shit the bullets out of her arsehole yeah I would categorize that one I would categorize that one as just she had no idea that was a power she had and it's something that enables everything to happen it's why did her eyes glow blue I guess it's worth keeping why does she value the lives of like they're not even lives why did she understands that these kids are inventions of Wanda's powers in her mind they're not real why would she put her why would she essentially risk her life I guess she believed that she would die to protect these kids which you wouldn't know he's got like a dozen plus shots he would just shot you and then them how does he think he can hit the speedy one if the speedy one can move faster again also why didn't the speedy one take out his gun before he was shooting how come the one who could see visions or just flick the bullets out the air like we already saw about seven years ago in an X-Men movie with Evan Peters did the one who could see visions did he not did he not see them coming did he not know that this guy would be coming out to shoot him I've summarized them as just neither of the children do anything with all of the power they have for some reason where's Wanda where's Vision Wanda's fighting Agatha with visions fighting come Vision yeah which is weird you think that they would be a lot more protective of the kids in that situation why is he shooting children I don't know if we got that that means really out of the point I'm evil I'm just going to shoot children now why do children are threats he doesn't know if they're real children or fake children take out his men admittedly it's like the most they haven't harmed any of them they've been pacified they haven't been killed there's no reason to shoot them there's no reason to shoot them at all I love how he looks so dumbfounded when he runs out of bullets gun know how bullied bullet shoot fire so when a chat has one bullet from asshole someone chats asking would Monica die to save Sparky I hope so I hope so it was Agatha I've only got three left and they might not be considered but go ahead keep shooting if you can think of any way why don't any of them do anything to stop him driving away that one I'm considering him driving away is like moving on to the next I'm cutting it off at him looking at his gun being surprised he's out of bullets which is one of them that's what I was saying what are we here to be arrested for are we too past are we getting a bit like I said we can talk about it in a bit but that's outside of this scene let me take a look here so the soldiers do not have guns at this point the other soldiers look at the screen though because I don't want to see the list why didn't Kat Dennings why did Kat Dennings come from how did she get to the barrier why didn't she stop him with her tits there's like six more issues as soon as we move past this scene I was going to say I don't want to make you guys desperately try and figure out what I've picked up so I may as well just say this one of the last ones I've got is which we kind of covered just like how the fuck did she travel at the speed of light that's just suddenly a new power she has which is kind of covered with the jelly stuff if the children can be torn to pieces and reassembled like why would we care that they're going to get shot and why would he think that that's going to do anything why would anyone like wise why would Wanda let them have the ability to get shot so yeah I was going to say from an audience perspective and from the kids like why would we why would bullets do anything to them why are the stakes high for us in that point and then simultaneously if he doesn't know that those children of like a assembly people that just makes everything he's doing worse what the fuck is he up to with the whole killing children which you just mentioned isn't his endgame to like be known as a hero if he's known it's killing the kids that's going to like ruin everything right they will call him child killer another strong one another significant one the strong he still doesn't know that Hayward empties the mag that means he shot every single bullet even after the first one went through Rambo why did he continue that Glock he has probably hold 16 rounds why did he continue shooting when Rambo was in the way that's one of his soldiers why wouldn't he just move the gun to the left or the right and shoot the kids why the fuck does he want to kill her this is like doomsday lasers again she's annoying she's annoying and she's stoned lots of things oh because she assaulted his men well funnily enough you wouldn't know about that because they got converted into clowns so oh well everyone in the show got converted to clowns yeah he was the only one he escaped before even finding out that any of that happened but yeah but I was just going to say like imagine so fire's that first one it's like when a slow motion it slips through like the jelly he has to go buh buh buh buh buh buh buh he has to continue firing while seeing her and then get upset because he ran out of bullets what the fuck most of the bullets don't even hit the children they're all heading to her yeah they're hitting I'm looking at the scene right now they would have gone right between the kids yep it's almost like you wanted to kill her so he could hit monica 16 times without just moving the gun and putting one in each kid just to make sure you still got 14 for you really wanted to yeah when that stops the bullet you could go the last one I've got is are we going to go with unconscious bias yeah that's systematic racism I think that's the last one I've got is no he's a villain he has conscious bias ah good point the last one I've got for a buddhist nitpick is just like why did your outfit into jelly as well like how does that why is it that we're in a world where shows think the outfit went through the barrier yeah but sorry does that mean that in future films when she turns into jelly like there'll be also what the outfit gained jelly power like the container outfit only went through once yep like I don't think not it's just it's stupid well the outfit is less complex than a human being so it only takes one pass through to give it powers but the other one didn't have that happen so here's the thing I don't know what to say she walked through a barrier she got positively affirmed everybody you know if you listen to if you go look at the at the you know at the close captions it's all like you're the best you are the best of the best the most stunning person ever so there's that symbol 17 shots of her standing up yep and she is now like the number three most powerful superhero in the MCU with absolutely undefined powers again just googly goc light powers I mean she has explained powers in the comic books that have changed like seven times in the last 20 years but the electromagnetic three characters in the MCU now MCU undefined wibbly wobbly powers yes it's um at least with the Avengers the characters the whole Captain America Iron Man Thor even there was a definition of their power I guess that would be the point of having a team it's like with a point of having a team is generally to have people with different skill sets I mean it's kind of like fantastic for it's probably the clear example of that right each of them have like one core ability that they have and all of them are complimentary or like it's nobody is encroaching on everybody else whereas it's like Captain Marvel or Monica kind of almost like exactly they might as well be the same except for the jelly thing it feels like they're just both destructible generic superheroes yeah generic it is there's no defined limitations or anything there's nothing like unique even about how their powers operate it's just kind of like the same gobbly gook they have wibbly wobbly kind of powers just sort of whatever they can do they can do so much on the uh the the that scene we're just talking about the scene where it said that Hayward shooting the twins is justified they're using lethal force on his men standard rules of engagement will always allow that his men are now defenseless and the twins have control of weapons and powers it's not about whether or not it would be procedurally allowed it's obviously an ethical complaint about his character he immediately gets sound just like if a child has like a butcher's knife and is running around the room screaming or something you'd be like well they could hit someone they could kill someone it's like yeah but most humans he's gonna shoot the fucking kid it is bizarre that he would do that it comes across as fucking wrong it's just like he's so and he's like not he doesn't he doesn't have the look on his face of like this is something I have to do it's more so why aren't you dying yeah i'm the fuck and usually you aim at the threat um educate your son educate your sons did they even use lethal force well they think so you can call it violence in this weird area of they've taken the power away well that's the other thing if you're observing the situation they make the man unable to shoot them and so to be like yeah but they they get any moment to turn all the guns on us and shoot us I just be like I mean but I feel like they would have done that by now surely like they clearly they like high five and they're like woo you know these kids aren't a threat they're just trying to prevent you from shooting their parents they're just big yeah and themselves I guess as well they don't want to get shot they can't turn into group like Monica yeah this is the thing I think you could have had a hyper villainous character decide to well here's an example I think a Mysterio when he decides that um if he doesn't kill these teenagers then the word will get out potentially that he's fooling the world about his position as a hero and so he gets really pissed off because they're gonna have to kill them he doesn't want to but if he's gonna protect the illusion if you will that's a hell of a lot stronger than these kids they've just protected themselves from my army of armed soldiers I'm gonna have to kill them that Mysterio cared more about chilling kids than this guy this like agent for the government's like wow that's that's a thought and by the way up through you know became director uh had to know Nick Fury probably been there for two decades yeah and at least Mysterio is a villain like Haywood's confusing he's a guy who is trying to do the right thing for the world by getting control over vision and saving these people from Wanda you're like okay I understand he's just doing all these weird things and it's like this could only be explained if he was just a straight up bad guy it's like he is you're like he is what do you mean why is that also Agnes is the villain too we're missing a few steps here what stop Wanda's alright though stop it stop it was Agatha oh la la no it wasn't I even killed Sparky too yeah um I if I was to tweak the scene I you need it to be that Haywood is defeated it's like I guess you do that to all of his men I don't know I think you have to have him be defeated with an argument instead of him trying to shoot you you block the bullets and then you ram a car into him that's good timing that she was there to ram the car into him as well oh yeah that's well very good time I suppose moving on to that yeah it's all terrible and it's so cartoony she's like you're going to jail bud and he's like oh oh wait with it too if it wasn't for you kids and because in the um I have the credits and you're dark too kind of free people from entrapment in the after credits you see him getting taken away and it's like you pesky boy you're going to jail and then you're just like what was the conversation like we came in to try and save people and then Wanda used all of her powers to mind control my men he could even say myself yeah what's the charge this is the thing so like even though he was shooting kids at least his defense could be we were under attack from metahumans that were disguised as kids but they were constructs so we don't know if they were children or if they were um 11 and so he could make this argument and they were keeping the hostage and torturing them we have the benefit of seeing it all has it happened but if you're describing this event like they took all of our weapons and mind controlled us I had a chance to take a shot and I did it it's not unreasonable why why why why were you arrested I don't know um so yeah Hayward from start to finish it seems to be he wants vision's body he wants to recreate the weapon to use it against potential future threats well that's fine with me um like the vision was a person you have to respect that he doesn't want his body to use it that way it's like right well that's just going to get into that's that's a whole movie right there like if you want to go to like the ethics of whether or not his bodily autonomy should be respected at death when he's a three billion dollar hyper weapon project it's like more powerful than anything we have on earth I don't know um Hayward has obviously chosen I almost feel like that's I almost feel like that's vision like it's a it's a hit on this character to say that no you can't do anything with my body it comes back to he doesn't trust they would use it he might be like I'm uncomfortable with what you might do with it but at the same time dude like earth was almost destroyed by Thanos recently like what do you that's the whole point of like the Avengers is that we're outgunned and everything and we need to we need the advantages we can get and so yeah and and I guess it leads us to again this this should be a discussion we should have characters fighting on both sides this could be a whole thing but it's not instead it's vision wanting to do that yeah and instead we've got vision didn't want you to do that and you did it so I would say the show from the get-go is like he's evil look at him he's tearing vision's body apart it's like well I mean he's a machine it's just it is a body I don't know how to feel about it I'm like there are there are reasons to do this there are reasons to study it there are reasons to try and reassemble it especially in trying times such as the five-year gap Avengers reassemble yes disgusting like how there's a lot of technology involved with him there's like revolutionary stuff that's like worth studying so it's like there's reasons for why he's doing it it's not because he's just evil yeah this is a big deal it's not just we get more technology you know it's like that that means a lot you know it's like the economy is not just a number like technology allows for all kinds of different things and to deny people the ability to advance in that kind of way that's that shaky territory blame was going on to say as well there will be combat situations in real life it's not fun to think about where you might actually have to shoot a child before they can do something to you and this thing Ev you you showed with with South Wormia extraction right and there is a mode in that film Rambo where he's he's killing lots of enemy soldiers but one of them he realizes right before killing them is like I don't even know how old they are they're like in their teens I guess younger 10 like they're pretty young super young and he opts to personally to disarm them and then like I don't know if he knocks them out or he doesn't kill them is the point now that's strictly what I'm judging this from it's not whether or not he be justified procedurally or in a court or whatever I'm looking at the character in the scene and if Chris Hemsworth in that scene decided to shoot the kid I don't think I would have actually been like well that's ridiculous he would never do that I would have been more like that was tough though something he had to do because the kid was about to shoot him that sort of logic but with Hayward it's so weird he doesn't even look like he understands what's happening and his men like I said have been disabled from from being able to shoot these people the kids are like joyfully celebrating their defeat of the of the evil soldiers and then he's just like boom boom boom boom it's hard to see what's going through his mind like it doesn't seem like he's trying to save his men or anything like that he just shows up with the gun and shoots and he's got this how to make him evil because they needed a villain for Monica Rambo to defeat well I guess what I'm trying to say is like I would have preferred if the scene was like he has all these men he's talking to them on his thing and gradually one by one they're all getting mind controlled and disabled to the point where they may even be aiming the guns at fellow soldiers yeah and he's like and he seems dressed out and he's like I've got to shoot them and he does but then Monica this way more interesting things that could have happened here they had the potential for a really like interesting scene where the kids because they're just kids and this is like a combat situation with guns and soldiers and they think it's like cool and fun and nifty and so they like take the guns and start pointing them at people with their powers and then they just get lit up by him and it's supposed to be like this oh my goodness gracious oh these kids they know that's what happens they don't want to they're terrified of that yeah and this is what I think I think the motivation behind it was we have to make Haywood super duper evil and yeah this is the thing I think if they had made it a complicated situation where he was absolutely justified to have shot the children the show writers would feel they failed we would be like what an interesting dramatic scenario is that they were willing to do this and we could have something to talk about and explore so it's terrifying those kinds of things nah it's like you're nice and generic yeah and so I guess we're with Haywood so that's his initial thing he finds out Wanda wants the body and he even has concerns that she'll reanimate him he like makes illusions to that and then he's just like let me show you something your loved ones corpse in pieces what why it's so weird and then she you see we're using the bandsaw on this part I don't know if like I don't know if he was he wanted to to piss her off yeah I kind of thought he was trying to get her to reanimate him showing your loved one like Dexter Morgan cutting up their corpse in order to appease them it's literally that they saw him at the time why it's so it's so weird the writer just think I'm going to use their language here the baseline is all males are toxic and that's just what a guy would that's just what a man would do well the show definitely doesn't provide any kind of like sense that what they're doing is reasonable they're like it's horrifying look at them it's like I mean I don't know how to I'm trying to think of like a star in real life feel like you're not prepared to have these conversations showmaker person if we had a future with mechanical organs like fully functioning mechanical organs were a thing but they don't depreciate over time they're like that's the level of technology I think repo men I think repo men is kind of where my brain's going because well this will be relevant in a second so if I had like mechanical kidneys and maybe a mechanical stomach or something but unfortunately I you know I'm in a car accident my head goes through into something just fucking smashed but my body's still intact if they were like you know we need those kidneys packed because we can save people's lives with them I'd be like I mean yeah oh repo men I thought you were talking about repo man sorry oh it's the repo I think that is wait there's a couple of them right there's the original and then there's a few remakes repo the repo man repo man repo man yeah repo shake from the 80s and I guess it's repo men right right uh yeah okay um so like I not saying that's the same situation but there's a conversation to be had right and we just don't get it instead like his body is remarkably intact considering it's been around for five years and only now they're taking the limbs apart and stuff yeah yeah I think we mentioned that like I don't see how this only started up now should have been ages ago there's a missing storyline there did someone prevent them from getting his body for five years was it was it like Tony it's that sounds interesting like anything after endgame is gonna have to be preceded by hours long discussion of the blip I mean five thing you know I love their work on civil war but rusez what the fuck you made a five-year gap with the most significant events of this world took place and you didn't tell anybody what they were what the hell do you think there'll be a roadmap or something just anything they would have given to future people the world would descend into man I mean look at us over a pandemic if half the world just went missing the next day the problem is that um I mean fundamentally the snap that's like dude society like is forever changed a lot of countries are crumbling like this is just chaos that's the story of itself what happened how the people disappeared it's absolutely a story in and of itself you probably could have made three movies just have it yeah and then the middle one is like the consequences of it and then endgame well we've already seen it we've got we had leftovers yeah yeah um I always argue that the infinity war and endgame stuff should have been a trilogy and like that yeah that middle chapter should have been like a vengeance aftermath or something where it's just them trying to pull everything back together I think yeah I think um I think you could endgame sucks um and you could salvage endgame I like endgame I mean that that's not as good as infinity war but I still think it's an enjoyable film I understand why people enjoy it I'm more appealing to just like that I think that there's a lot that's wrong with it and I think that you can easily fix it by one we need to see the consequences of the snap we need to treat it seriously and um maybe spend a lot of time on that and maybe Tony and Cap's relationship and then like endgame can be them actually trying to solve the problem but no time travel please just something else I don't know yeah um it makes me wonder as well with the whole the Tony aspect I don't think he would have given vision up um he has he has a big level of a friendship with vision and uh he also cares about him being someone who'd probably be potentially torn apart by a government and then I could picture Tony being invested in trying to repair him and we discover that um good old sword have the potential to bring vision back online so I imagine Tony does and uh yeah why wouldn't he have done all of that himself in the time between because he was getting close as well in Wakanda they were getting close to allowing him to function autonomously without the stones so why not just um well he's the thing yeah we're told that vision doesn't because this is what I thought it was uh ringing a ghost you'll find this interesting I don't think it's vision giving him his memories of vision over it's him unlocking vision he says like your visions of your your memories are behind a wall in your head and presumably hey would put it up meaning like using recovery software to get like yeah like he's unlocked his memories when he touches his head that does that somehow I don't fucking know how but like the point being you can recreate vision without the stone is what they're saying we know that yes because well but also didn't yeah but we knew that right didn't Shuri Shuri was going to remove the stone while keeping his really intact yeah what I'm saying is that it was pulled out and so the idea is like well it would have happened but you know you've taught is yeah you've ruined your chance but it's like no you haven't actually you just need to repair him which kind of takes away from his death doesn't it that seemed to be final it seemed to be like their one chance was to get the stone out and then maybe they would like the best parts of vision would remain but now it's like no without the stone you could just make him again it's like all the deaths have been on done all the deaths have been on done that's wonderful well you can you know all the deaths in endgame there's still there right you know because Cap and Iman contractually don't want to return that's the only reason they stay dead the idea that that's the only way that they're dead is if it's like no I'm done damn it we can't make more money all right I don't know if it's we've definitely been set outside of this stream but the Loki death was significant the Gamora death was significant and the vision death was significant all three of them are back in some way so really can fuck with your perception of infinity war if you rewatch it you'd be like well they'll be fine just get black widow's dead she's still dead she's got her own movie which is going to be absolutely I have no interest in why do I want to watch a movie about someone who's now dead for me it's like I'm curious how much they're going to damage the time of course she's not going to fucking die because we know that so what's the stakes maybe they'll fuck with the stakes for me how much they're going to damage the MCU with it they could explore a little bit of what happened after civil war that might be nice like seeing her on the run but this film should have been her and Hawkeye this should have been the film where Hawkeye is sent to kill her instead of killing her he decides not to he decides to take a chance on her and give her the benefit of the doubt this should be the story of the beginning of her redemption and somebody believing in her and her friendship, her bond that she has with Hawkeye that takes them through right to infinity war where they literally fight each other for the honour of dying in the other person's place no we're not we're going to get fucking what's the magic in a suit going look at me I'm kind of fat but I still fit into my suit laugh joke MCU joke fat Russian that's what we're going to get we should have had the beauty pest story that's what we should have had yeah but we need new movies we need future movies alright we need to set up the new black widow but that wouldn't be such a cool story yeah it would have been but we're not in the business of cool stories we're in the business this is Disney we're talking about yeah we don't do that here we don't do cool stuff we don't man look hey fat they fit suit though he laughs with MCU what are those audience excellent comedy bad news sneakers moving on with Haywood because I do want to make a few more points about him right like swords operation outside of the dome is retarded yes the first we see of them is obviously here pooping the drone in that's a basic thing that I'm totally okay with when we see the whole base is set up this camera and it shows three or four more drones going in and just never coming back basically implying ever since monica disappeared with the knowledge from woo about the drone they've just been walking drones into the thing and losing them forever just consistently it's like okay you might want to stop doing that guys it's called a pattern you might want to try something else for example all of the things monica comes up with because she's the only person with a brain apparently she's like let's figure out what the barrier has in terms of like energy you can find things that are resistant to it and she says I need something that's lined with and then mentions a bunch of materials you would assume that you'd create some kind of maybe block of that and then push it forward on a pole and see if it like make a drone out of it whatever but they never do that interestingly with her truck that she has specifically made for her by people who aren't loyal to Haywood is how it's described I guess they're just around and they are a utility that can be accessed freely and they ask nothing in return and loyal to her mother this is all under the radar I guess and this is after monica and you know company beat up those people in a state oh yeah I'm getting I'm trying to find a way to specifically why I'm bringing up that truck is that it has like a glass pane in front of it for her to see through and it's like wait isn't that gonna get converted and they're all curious as to why it doesn't work I presume they try to because like there's tires on it and it's like why won't the tires go through cause the tires how quickly did they did they just like have this like very unique design ready to go I thought the implication was that they actually created it for her which is even worse because how do you keep all this off the books this is great base for the people who got kicked out to go to and do the wrong thing I think cost as much as vision did I mean yeah it's all absurd and she came up with all of it saw doesn't try any of this they're pathetic throughout this whole thing they don't try anything obvious they try to send a guy down into the sewer and underground to see if it doesn't get hit by the force fields like why wouldn't you push something like a drone in first that way push a guy in and this gets called out they're like why are you using an agent I think Hayward just said something like give some like crappy answers yeah some stupid bad guy in charge person terrible like why won't you guys do all the obvious stuff all the obvious ways to test it and then I guess to push forward further on Hayward he's got some really like just bizarre dialogue where she calls him a coward because he wants to kill Wanda if you remember he has so he still had to organize this you know Rambo says that he doesn't trust her and that he's been looking for a reason to get her off this project the whole time the time to do that would have been when she came back through the barrier you tell her she has to go to a hospital you're off this you're compromised we don't know what's happened to you in there you didn't have authorization or something the bloods and scans from her come back like unintelligible basically had something happen to her there's more significant than anybody ever biologically we don't know what's wrong with it like you need to go to a hospital you could die at any moment but no um she just carries on it's like that would have been the time to dismiss her you have plenty of reason to do it instead he keeps her on he has her pilot the drone that he plans to kill Wanda with why would you do that? it's a drone with a gun strapped to it yep the 80s drone I guess it's worth mentioning the only reason they're able to get the drone in and control it is because it's from the 80s that doesn't make any sense I don't understand any like we talked about drone from outside like you need the specific tv to match the frequency like why do things from the time period need to fit how does any of this so okay so the way to put this I've talked it for you about it I guess I'll just have to go over it strictly quickly again so the force field is going to convert anything from outside to an area appropriate thing inside that means Wanda is somehow aware of what is appropriate otherwise because the spell comes from her desires so I don't know how else it would work how is it that the drone is defined as an 80s drone when the pieces it was made from could have been made at any other time like how does it figure this shit out what if the drone was broken into its component parts and moved through the wall and they were all made in the 70s what does it do then I was about to say also like people I guess it converts them into like appropriate like status and like close but a mindset from the right era if you had a pen that was like made in the 80s and you had one that was like made today but it was it's the same type of pen same material yeah same design same material or would it just be the same pen even though it was technically made today yeah so if you could just make something that looked like that would the paint go away okay well they got I guess they keep yeah because if the pens d age right if you if the pen goes back to being an 80s pen when all the adults just go back to being children I have no idea how any of it makes sense yeah I was made in the 90s they all treated it as so easy to understand well of course if the drone is from the 80s like what do you mean it's from the 80s it's from now you mean you created it in the 80s is that what you mean they took it from like a somewhere else like it was old or something like that you could walk through the barrier then so let's say I made a hammer in this I guess this funny because it gets brought up right if I made a hammer in the 80s that I replaced the handle in the 90s what era is this hammer from this is the exact same thing that was the vision thing again yeah who fucking goes and I love that he sneaks a fucking missile launcher onto it like what how the hell did Rambo not realize that was there why would he have it pilot it if that was going to be a thing he would do and he knows that she doesn't want to do anything to Wanda why would you have it pilot it I guess she's also an experienced drone pilot it's a fucking joystick just you don't need someone who's super how could there not be someone on the sword base that knows how to pilot something on a joystick with a screen she's just going forward back left right and they have plenty more of these stupid 80s drones so worst case scenario they just have to do it again the one person who shouldn't pilot that is piloting it her mom built sword from the ground up she went to Home Depot she got her tool set and she built everything let's say she wanted to be an astronaut she was a very good pilot there was no one better very good pilot but she died five years ago cancer so how she did it I don't know it's uh it fries your brain thinking about how any of this works um so in response to this decision to try and kill Wanda she calls he would a coward and his response right so I have like I'm just tired of people in charge being idiots um and this this isn't just procedurally this is socially they're so inept his response to her saying don't be a coward is maybe it's a good thing you weren't here when your mother died oh my good god like I was like what do you what do you think that accomplishes why would you say that maybe Hollywood that means maybe Hollywood's whole frame of reference of people in charge is the people in Hollywood in charge that might make a little bit of sense but it is though isn't it it really is because they're all you're all of five mind if you're here and you know that she's a loose cannon she believes in Wanda and she hates you why would you say oh you probably shouldn't have been here when your mum died because you clearly can't handle this it's like motherfucker just fire her my dudes I'm I'm going to have to take off now because I've got to get back to working on my next video no problems there thank you very much for joining us and sharing your thoughts on a wonderful TV show to improve the media landscape once again you're called WandaVision do you want to tell people what you're up to on your channel and why they should go subscribe so I make videos on movies and stuff as well just did a Mulan review very late but it's good check it out we're only working on the video on seeers movie about autism have you guys heard about this yeah if you haven't heard about it you should look into it because it's quite a is it pro or anti autism well it's meant to be pro autism but it's unintentionally very anti autism because I'm not pro autism the best kind of cringe basically I have to see this don't pay for it just don't support it just watch the trailer and you'll get the idea long story short they cast a non-autistic actress to play an autistic character and they also wrote and performed the autistic character in quite a stereotypical way so a lot of people were very annoyed by it that's not the only problem with the film but it's bad cringe it's not even good cringe I've seen some clips it's very like what the fuck were they thinking it's called music okay great name for a film I know right but yeah I'm going to take off thank you guys for having me on nice to meet those of you I haven't already I hope the rest of the stream goes very well and no more you know ear rape from rags no promises I'm right next to him too so I got a full very scared that's why you're looking at him that way yeah I'm just a little bit take care bye so the next funny thing for like the sword timeline there is that they find that the drone is delivered back to them by Wanda to take a small detour the energy attached to that drone allows them to power up the vision bot what I don't understand like why the Wanda are still around it like it just stays with it why does it work that way when yeah because magic I don't have a fucking clue and if the idea if that was something that because he says like analyze that immediately pretty funny to think about right because they're trying to set up that he's going to find out everything he needs to know about how he can power up vision stuff however why wouldn't they have done that with those when they came back through anything couldn't they like send something into the dome and like on a string and pull it back like I know it turned like the the rope that was on the beekeeper to like jump rope but could you not that back and then extract that from whatever you pulled out well like I said we don't we got an example they have a clothing and if you remember who's the person that decides to actually even look at the consistency of the material in the clothing it's Monica no one else was like should we analyze this hey this clothing has been through the barrier back and forth it's changed like it literally didn't exist oh by the way fuck me it's so dumb she takes out Woo's gun and fires it on the base to prove that it's Kevlar when right next to the fucking clothing is an analysis of it that says 80 percent Kevlar why wouldn't you just point to that that would cause a scene in that base you would get people being like what the hell guns shooting it's like alarms go off you can't just shoot a gun in a base it's not even her gun there's so many things pop I'm pretty sure she will be fucked over like like they would be like you can't do that you you're gonna be reprimanded the things will happen because you've done that discharge firearms in the office right that's you can't do that what a waste of ammo to get also who gave you a gun oh she took it from Woo yeah I was testing it see I thought it was Kevlar so I shot it we know that's why we wrote it's Kevlar on the board right next to it also why are you shooting these things this is not yours it's insane just really wanted to look like it was her idea it's also weird that uh I think honestly she says like it's 80 percent Kevlar and it's like how is her entire outfit that when only her clothing was only the vest was Kevlar you know how to be like such a high it's not really that important but um if anybody was analyzing her clothes the first thing you discover is like holy fuck this is hard why wait put it under a scanner it's 87 percent Kevlar what the fuck these things how wow we should look into this how did this get transmuted into something else like this is super weird we need to learn how this happened and uh yeah she solved all of her problems I know they was very heavy I presume it's supposed to it compared to what you think it would be um and yeah it's really frustrating that I know they want their protagonist to have all of the moments of figuring things out but it makes everyone else incredibly stupid and it's really annoying does she even ask if she can no she doesn't even ask she just does it does it she walks her permission she's thinking about stuff and she thinks about how things transform and then she just walks off woo and uh and screechie face follow her she pulls out woo's gun and just shoots it and they're all like what the fuck and then she's like yeah the bullets bounced off because it's Kevlar they didn't bounce back and hit us well this is this is why I mean my eye it's so frustrating if I had lost all my brain cells and decided to just shoot the clothing that was drying or whatever I would at least go hey do you mind or something like that just a few steps here why is it that drone has goo on it but nothing else has it's so weird maybe it's that Wanda like physically grabbed it and then brought it back but it's like and I don't know why there's goo on it in the first place and I don't know why it stays it's just random how do you convert that goo into something that can power up the vision suit it's so a matter of fact just like that's the way it is you're like oh is it then well all right it's magic and yeah next to that scene is the legendary discussion about how you've taken a whole city town hostage and she's like you guys have guns though not a conversation it definitively makes Wanda a villain and they don't commit to it like you could have committed to that and made it work you could have like had heard it explore like how she's going down a dark path and like tries to find redemption but they just yeah this is someone on the outside directly confronting her telling her what she's doing and what's the what the consequences of that are and she's just like you've got guns which means you're bad and also remember Wanda literally threw her out threw her out through the whole village through the barrier to the other side and she's going oh my god if I was my sister my sister would have done exactly the same thing you go girl you just go you're so powerful well lucky can't women just be powerful lucky for Monica man of steel she was shot through several buildings and she was fine she was regular human at that point was she not well you can argue that Wanda broke them and simply moved her through them you know like in that they're broken by Wanda's power not by her but Monica's back you could argue that the interesting thing for me is like Wanda's incredibly lucky that the one person who can act on her behalf that was experiencing her horrible thing didn't come out horrified and annoyed at her instead she came out like you know what I sympathize because I lost my mother it's like you are not the only person who has lost a loved one you psychopath that doesn't give you an excuse to do whatever the fuck you want about Wanda drew her in remember she allowed her to come in because she knew she could help with the baby delivering the baby she knew she was an ally but she couldn't read anybody else's mind she didn't know that director toxic male was out to get her Monica tells her that the reason she let her in was because she knew she could help her which is like excuse me what about all the other you're right what about all the other fucking people it was like well all of that would help so they could just stay in their rooms oh you knew I wasn't my ally make them suffer and yeah so Haywood has them removed when they cause too much trouble and that's when the show like was hit like me and rags were very much done at this point woo attacks the people who've taken them away and this is while being in front of a bunch of other people I was on I was on the discord and while they're discussing the next plan of action there are three people behind them about I'd say 10 meters away walking around just like wow if anyone had heard you guys doing all this bullshit probably would have been in a little bit of trouble um that's not to mention the fact that why you're being removed from the mission because they consider you compromised and like you're in its way sort of thing for other incompetence reasons but then you're like you know what I believe in Wanda so much that I'm going to attack this team and find a way to sabotage this mission you're like what I don't think they explain any of that at all you have a lot of confidence in that that torturing psycho magic user in there I mean do they ever even build up why she would have this level of faith in Wanda because her mum died and she understands why Wanda's doing all of this that's what their reasoning is yeah because her mum died and this is it's like so selfish and self indulgent with only two women that can understand loss because my mum died and your boyfriend died oh my god we've got 3000 people do you think their lives are just amazing do you think nothing's bad happens to them do you think you know they live forever anyone that has experienced loss can relate to this this is why the stuff in the dome was fun for me I enjoyed it it seemed to be leading somewhere and then as soon as they got this sword business it's just shit it makes no sense it's written by a buffoon it doesn't make any sense is it strange that the company who insisted that no one's ever really gone is using the loss of loved ones as the justification for villainy it's quite something and yeah I guess for this one I'll knock off my copyright cover and I'll try and play it as it happens but um yeah so why does Wu do this like Wu says in the previous scene you shouldn't be mean to people like Monica Heywood you should be chill okay that doesn't justify why you're willing to take up arms against sword's operation like I need to I need more than that and uh it's funny because he doesn't tell Monica about it Norcat Dennings he just decides you know what I'm gonna fucking punch these people it's like okay like that I feel like this could go wrong in many many ways but yeah they're lucky that all the noise they create and all the damage they do doesn't get them caught there's a whole base of people here um yeah just sort of worked out for them and um the show clearly doesn't know what it's doing because what would you say knowing what we know about these people right what is their next plan of action well they want to stop Heywood from potentially killing Wander I guess how are they gonna do that I guess they would go to the Avengers yeah I would say they need a third party it's pretty much all I can think of um so their first decision is to go into a tent with the I don't know the data stores and hack into the system it's like why it's like to get data what what data to get data I like data and what data do they get they get that um there's a secret mission happening on this base called cataract which is the evil vision and so like they discover this information because they wanted that information that they didn't know existed I call him sight lucky that they found it lucky that like there was information to be found you know that's what I mean like it's really badly done they aren't motivated to do what they do but it net gets them on to the next step of their plot um because again it's such an awesome action scene the three of them technically in some way work together and they defeat the evil sword I'm just thinking like what what is happening go back to the sitcom it was easy to understand yeah diversity is their strength you guys are going to hate this so I out of curiosity I went to IMDb and looked up could you come close to dmike I'm really struggling to hear you oh hold on I'll turn it up a little bit is that better yeah okay so yeah I pulled up one division to see the ratings so that the show overall has an 8.2 um and the really depressing part is that the first episode has a 7.5 the second episode has a 7.8 the third episode has an 8.2 and from then on out every single episode is 8.5 or above the show has a better reception when it begins to crumble than actually like when it's good it wasn't in color therefore I think it is yeah I think it's just that the first three episodes were really like unique and different and then it became not that that's like wow it's real bad isn't it that's the screen shot I meant to send that's the real this is just after they beat up all those guys okay like lock them instead of like a shipping container and somehow no one misses no one does I think it's like you'd expect confirmation surely he'd be like hey radio in once you've moved them off site hello guys oh no something's gone wrong yeah they do anything else just security and standing around because in a place like this you'd imagine most people would be checking in and there'd be constant like people doing tasks so if people just went missing it'd be like where did this guy go I had him doing this do they not have like military advisors just making sure that when the military is in these shows and films that it's pretty accurate to how it would be like surely that's not a hard thing to get right you wouldn't need to check up your story too much this is the same company that instead of just shooting a gun with blanks in it they had a guy pretend to shoot a gun so that they could CGI the slide moving back in a bullet casing coming out that's very true yeah no they do not they do not care at all now it's funny that you say that because I they have uploaded a behind the scenes like thing for the show I just pulled it up and like he's not even in the makeup in a lot of this stuff like it's just him blue with a bunch of dots on a space and then they do like all of the I thought that I thought he was in makeup so did I I think it's been half and half since seemingly yeah like real so much that isn't real I was going to say hey woods timeline I think carries on to when he discovers the they're up to no good but if you remember it's episode it's the last episode again because it's asked to he sort of sees who come in he's been captured and he's like I agent who you know but I'm always confused by I was like where was who before then wasn't he like with Monica going in through the barrier how did he get caught what happened to all those other people wouldn't he have just left and who threatens to get Quantico involved and Heywood is like whoa like you're bluffing you wouldn't do that is like wait why didn't he do that why didn't he call Quantico start with that the third party like they mentioned it's like that's the you go you wouldn't be independent because you got the show has access to him bringing in a third party it then captures him and says he didn't do it only to give him a phone that he somehow manages to sneak off a table that either belongs to him or he guessed the password of it wasn't password protected so if I'm like if that's just a random phone it's like that's super lucky that he didn't need a base or a thumbprint to get to that then how would army base like sword people's phones not be password protected for fuck's sake like what assistant couldn't come at least the Mandalorian face scanner required a face of course he has a paperclip to be able to break out as well it's some of the most like juvenile writing where you're just like he escaped because he escaped shut up and you're like okay I don't know why you didn't use what you had which was he sees her go back into the barrier and then he says you guys you know I'm gonna need you to try and stop sword doing this horrible operation because that's motivation now and then he calls Quantico they all arrive and he tries to stop Hayward instead they have him captured break out and call Quantico to stop Hayward why why why did you do all of that and I think it's because of the scene where Hayward gets to explain is his big plan and that's kind of where I was going with this so Hayward's big plan is I'm gonna cover all of this up the the show will prove that there is another vision I am going to kill that vision and then replace him with my one and argue that that was the same vision the whole time that Wanda resurrected and that I stopped here and saved this town and then we was like you'll never get away with this this security footage there's the blah blah blah and he's like oh people won't believe any of it they'll believe I'm a hero like I'm lost at this point I am so confused right now what I'm absolutely lost it's like they just dropped a villain plot he's saying villain things but like there's just no reason for him to say any of it and none of it makes any sense I'd be curious if you just took some random people who watched the show and said so Hayward you ought to tell him what his name was so Hayward why is he the villain and just see if they could give an answer what's power what's covering up exactly when he refers to that he's like I'm gonna cover it all up exactly what's that gonna be cover up having reassembled vision and used him as a weapon apparently has to cover that up how the hell did he keep that a secret all of these people know about this it was done over a lot of time it was done in his building how do you cover all this this is not something they never answered by the way his whole team sword are they all complicit are they all going to jail too yeah all the people who are like what we call witnesses would they like give a shit is he gonna pay him off so they work for Lex Luthor all the men are they're all, yeah well, funnily enough his second command seems to be the girl we recognize from she was in Hill House she barely says anything ever she's in the car with him when he gets out to shoot the children he doesn't really react or say anything but she's on board with the plan she's the one I think who announces that they've lost control over overcome vision and it's just like why he's overloaded okay they didn't have any like failed vision that they made like they didn't have anything to control it or anything to like pull the plug if something went wrong it just goes wrong it's like wow great job so why would you curse us with this the one thing I would say is that if he was considered overloaded and hard to control once visioner locked his memories that would be something I still question the mechanics of it but they lose control over him right at the beginning when he starts battling vision they say he's overloaded he's overloaded from doing the very thing you designed him for if he's overloaded in the scene where he's talking to vision then they would intervene they would find a way to control him to keep fighting rather than having a conversation that is a whole bunch of problems he says explicitly his orders are to destroy the vision and also to neutralize wander now Haywood has already tried to kill wander so it's safe to assume that he wants, yeah we'll get to this in one second I'm almost done his goal should be to kill wander so why is it that come vision doesn't just immediately kill her that would kill vision too she's the reason he exists so it makes no sense why is it hard for him to crush her head he's like yeah vibranium that sound of just cracking like she's fine after that yeah and he's got this weird vindictive streak for like one line where he's just like and they said you were strong and then he's just a robot for the rest of it and he's just like yeah to sort of quickly address this it seems the agri-jothal episode 1 and 2 pretty weak but I guess I'm assuming he's saying the episodes get better as they go along is probably what he felt episode 9 is 7 out of 10 I've never seen this I haven't seen people saying that the latter episodes were better this is amazing most people I thought I heard like the first 3 episodes and like then said the sword stuff was weak I don't understand anybody who enjoys episode 9 I know it's really controversial and harsh to say I don't get it, I don't know how you understood what happened it's easily the worst episode of the lot when you don't think it's very easy by an absolute mile it undoes the entire series how could you enjoy on any other level that you absolutely didn't take in what happened reality is I think that a lot of it is vapid because when I watched the episode when it first came out all I saw on twitter was oh look skull at which look the costume all the headpiece oh look red like that's kind of yes that's all it it really is I mean if you look back to even you know sorry the Luke Skywalker return you know I mean Luke using his lightsaber under a hood with angry Joe with angry Joe I'd just be like can you recount to me what happened in the final episode of WandaVision just tell me I'd be really curious what he thought happened I mean the episodes because he gives this if you go to the next picture he gives the series 9 out of 10 so the episodes which we don't have we haven't got the pictures for are they all 10s out of 10 because he's gone 5 6 and a 7 in the whole series 9 out of 10 I don't understand I mean the season it's greater than the sum of its parts even though they're all 5s and 7s it averages out to a 9 how it's kind of ironic that angry Joe has become the IGN that he hates I know it's become the very thing you swore to destroy this is a 5 out of 10 this is a 6 out of 10 the series is a 9 out of 10 did he add them all up with bad math math is racist anyway did he fail basic high school math no elementary school sorry the 9 out of 10 represents how he felt about the season as a whole it's not representative of the collection of other numbers idiots you can't say he didn't graduate high school he's a good GED I'm surprised by this because I would have thought he would have thought the last episode was shit he likes a lot of the DCEU stuff right he looks a lot of stuff he's hardcore stand man of steel he's in town to his own opinion that's nothing wrong with that 5 out of 10, 6 out of 10, 7 out of 10 fine I'm struggling to see where the 9 comes from that's interesting he thought the predator was good what's the standard here what what do you think was good he thought the predator was good the autism hunters the spinal fluid extractors really I thought we were the autism hunters watching the big CGI predator rip the head off the actual in costume one yay fun the re-do bulletproof predators walking through the jungle beating people to death at its fists that's what predator is I've got a story related to the predator because I casually dropped that the predators thought that autism was the next step in human evolution while watching a show with my brothers and they were not aware of this at that point and I thought they were and they looked at me like I had shit inside them and I then explained the entire plot to them right and they were still not believing me they had to actually go to Wikipedia to confirm it and they were still like what the fuck my friends told me this was really good and I'm just like I'm sorry your friends might be retarded your friends might be the next step in human evolution yeah yeah uh it was absolutely shocking watching the predator oh well and yeah point being Joe's got weird takes on movies and TV he it would be interesting to talk to him about what it is about one division that he thought was 9 out of 10 so he gave he gave 4, 5 and 6 a 9, 7 and oh hi Zep you're gonna have to like I'm sorry man grammar's important I don't know what you're trying I don't know what thoughts you're trying to convey to me he can get me right in just a second alright I don't remember I think it was just talking about it was insane plan yeah apparently when Wanda cancelled the show there's no copies of it anyway they didn't store it on like a cloud or in any kind of other system it just got swallowed up by when she I guess expanded the border but as we know it was recording it she said that right well it recorded I guess only locally and all of it got taken away by her border but the thing is when the borders disabled it reverts things back to normal so they'll still have that evidence secondly there is quite a few witnesses so quite a few I might even say hundreds so I don't know what maybe thousands I don't know what he's episodes 4, 5 and 6 he gave a 9 out of 10 episode 7 he gave a 7 yeah he gave episode 4 5 and 6 all of those got a 9 out of 10 4 was awful yeah 4 was I like 4 no I hate 4 it's 4's the one when they bring in all of the outside stuff repeat everything we already knew and then start making sword look like absolute retards I thought I was 5 have you rewatched it as I mean like cause I liked it initially too and then for my review I sat down and binged the damn thing and yeah it all sucks now I liked it up to the revelation of what's episode 3 I like episodes 1, 2 and 3 and I still kind of like them I just hate how they contextualize now they could have been contextualized better I guess so with just to finish up in episode 7 he gave a 7 in episode 8 he gave a 9 there's one good scene in episode 8 okay well we can go over that we'll get there the way we've done this is essentially like everyone's timelines different characters sort of first which is fine with me so yeah hey that's his goal is to kill Wanda undo all the damage she's done and then tell everybody that the vision that you'll see from then on is the vision that she resurrected but he has control over that wouldn't be the events that's happened and everyone could prove that wrong and if it truly is illegal to have done what he did and he has to hide it then he's fucked and there's no way he's getting out of this he's really stupid because vision would know the truth everyone knows the truth yeah that's the thing and yeah so one of the things Darcy does when they've escaped is send an email to vision or something in the dome do you remember that he finds it on his computer what how what and everybody reads it why does everyone read that I don't understand and then vision can magically turn people off I was confused so talk about another thing there was another thing that destroys the show because there's so many of them when he does that to the first person it's I like enjoyed it and then I started to think like wait wouldn't he just do this to load to them save them his whole goal is to destroy the system itself and free these people but he only ever releases them temporarily and puts them back in because they start panicking and so it's like you might think to yourself as a writer how do I justify them panicking how do I get them to scream the guy at work he just starts shouting at vision over and over again instead of trying to be like how do I figure this out he just goes nuts and puts them back in the same thing happens for Agatha she just starts laughing uncontrollably until he puts it back in but I don't know if that was her own motive the only one who doesn't is Darcy she adjusts instantly and she's like that was annoying she's great, she's incredible also to the people who panic oh you're panicking, well torture time yeah I don't understand it from vision's point of view and there's a thing I wish I could say he was unscathed but I still think his character's got some issues in this season for some reason he recognizes these people are in pain as much as some people who are literally stuck trying to attach something to like a line and crying why don't you go unlock her like and then if she starts screaming like I god I'm good just like I mean try and doesn't doesn't a vision unlock Agnes in the car at the end of the section that's what I was saying totally like she was playing along we have to discount that one I even called it when we discussed it on our show I would really look like she was just there for whatever reasons she wanted to be there for but yeah you could tell that she wasn't particularly like shocked or surprised or yeah because you think because if she was locked away so does that mean that Wanda didn't ever have power over her I guess no I guess not well first of all yeah no she didn't until the end with the runes thing happening and the conversion but we have no idea why that's the case they never explain how she managed to get into that place without being affected by the spells yeah I think that's causing the confusion however that scene means that Agnes rode out there and waited for Vision to find her so that she could convince Vision to try and escape the dome why? all that did was make her expand the dome you might be like oh so she's trying to get her to cast more spells to sapper so she doesn't sapper in that scene she doesn't do anything maybe she didn't know that Wanda would expand the dome well I'm trying to argue in favor of that that's what she wanted her to do because I can't think of anything else what the hell was she trying to do with that would you have said anything to should she have just been more explicit to Vision no well I don't know what do you think she was trying to do in that scene I guess I'm not exactly certain I don't know what she was trying to do I'm a bit confused were they trying to insinuate in the story and failed completely that Agatha was trying to like get to Vision slowly maybe start the question the world around him but I don't know what's the point what's the point of it though if her whole goal is to make Scarlet Witch cast spells so she can sap them what the fuck is she doing wasting all her time she's spending all this time fucking around why aren't you creating enemies for Wanda to fight and then sapping her while she does it that seems like the most obvious thing to do but it's to throw us off you see and then to go Wanda was sorry Agatha was behind her the whole time and you're like I don't understand what that means don't believe you yeah she was just trying to figure out how she pulled off the magic and then she I mean the ultimate answer was because she could she was just powerful she was the Scarlet Witch and so something that bothered me greatly was when he unlocked Cat Dennings sorry Mulder it's just one thing before you do that scene was after correct me if I'm wrong but that scene was after when Agatha said oh should we retake that which to me was the whole giveaway that she was in everything she was in on it that she knew what was going on nobody else knew what she was going on but she's saying hey should we retake that clip from the show so after that it was to me it was absolutely obvious that Agatha was you know either a an antagonist or was one antagonist on what could be a couple she should know better than to say that by the way and with people knowing that Agatha Harkness is attached to Scarlet Witch then they're like oh this has to be her then because she's called Agatha she's clearly in on the TV show this has got to be Agatha Harkness so then you know when she's out in the sticks with the car and it doesn't look like she's phased by by Vision being there she's kind of like a theatric you know doing her theatrics this woman is clearly clearly not affected by Scarlet Witch well I'm surprised that that didn't give her a way to Scarlet Witch to the point where she would inspect it and re reintegrate her be like oh you're out of sync clearly because you shouldn't be able to say that and at the same time why would Agatha do that when nobody else in the town does that yeah like what was she what was her hope like when she was at the fence right and she was with the neighbor who was cutting into the fence she did it to him to make him do that and so you're just like what are all these things for you just trying to annoy Wanda is that it no it's pure mystery box they were just trying to set up a mystery for mystery sake that had no intention of paying off whatsoever it's just to make it look like it's far more complex than it really is this is like amateur shit that makes it so hard to like know what the hell is happening in this show and what is and isn't actually supposed to be something that matters it's um when we were on that Friday night time so we were on we were all just talking about it really depends on where they go really depends on what they're tired of saying that shit right we're just waiting for the thing to be better because right now it's not enough on its own that they just it was lost I mean it was yeah it's lost and yeah so uh vision decides to take cat dannings out and then he and specifically because he saw her on the outside he saw all of those people on the outside all the clown people are all people from the outside why not undo them why not talk to them all be like all of you are from out there you've just got placed in I can make a team I can put you all together we can figure this out and like if Wanda fucks you all over I'll try and get you out all over again but no he gets her out and then a guy who is under Wanda's control is like you gotta go on the stage and he's like oh no I don't want us to go on the stage she's like no you have to go on the stage and then they punch him what is happening this guy is under a spell just knock him out yeah why are you such an asshole everybody's fucking stupid and then possibly one of the most frustrating parts personally for me and I think rags is gonna agree with this I'm not sure vision gets told is history from the MCU and how he died and it's a comedy scene oh yeah I was so fucking pissed off during this show Mauler you're like quite it's the grave for most of that episode I told Fringy this but yeah I was really done but uh yeah the scene where we get vision who has been resurrected in some kind of form some weird quasi existence he is being told he is learning about his own death and the circumstances surrounding his death ideally with how Wanda was involved in that and what she was willing to do and what he was willing to do um and he is told that the framing that they've done this is him and Darcy of all people who just matter of faculty just sort of casually sort of just says you died lol while they're in an ice cream truck and then the scene's just like over and they're waiting at an intersection and it is the it is one of the biggest wastes of a potential payoff that I've ever seen it was it was abhorrent in how it was executed it was an insult to the character and all the stuff that happened at the end of infinity war and I was just I was so upset at that Blame imagine if that scene was done between Wanda and Vision like Wanda was the one who had to tell him and like had to break from the lies like there's so many more opportunities there's so many different characters and different mechanisms that you could use Wanda wouldn't want to tell him and Vision's like no fucking tell me what happened I have to know what happened tell me damn it and then she's like crying she's like trying to tell him everything that happened instead it's lol Darcy in an ice cream truck and they have Marvel way now that reminds me of the Ragnarok scene when Odin you know passes and they it's emotional for like a nanosecond and then it flips on a dime when that scene should have played out so much longer Odin was handled well in Ragnarok they get him out of the way which is unfortunate but yeah in this like what's such a missed opportunity is you have him figuring out piece by piece that he may very well be dead and then he asks it am I dead did I die and you've got not only the fact that she wants to keep that away from him but she is trying to convince herself that he's not dead anyway and so you have like perfect drama right there you have him trying to tell her to admit that he's dead in a context that is separate from the subtext which is that she can't get over the grief of his death like it's all there for you you've got a scene and they have Darcy you died yeah the purple guy killed you so funny so much it's excruciating to watch I thought it was bad but now you've explained it it was much worse everything is so much better like it's it's so why did you choose to do it this way of all the ways that you could have cashed that check that was how you did it is like you could have anything in the store you want for free and you're like I'll have that gum yeah right yeah don't you want that like Mercedes Benz over there or that big screen TV nah just that gum just I just I want to experience what it's like to chew 5 gum yeah and then it creates more problems for that itself isn't a problem for vision as a character that's what was done to him in terms of a conversation he had no control over so whatever I guess it's just really unfortunate that he did it that way he kind of drops it the problem comes in in one he doesn't question much more than that he concludes that they have to get back to Wonder and that she's trying to prevent them from getting there with trucks and stuff it's embarrassing to watch because he can fly it's just like you can go around there's so like it's like kids and then that's like oh no now another person's come to block the road it's like guys just drive ahead and cut yeah you can fly just drive around this is important vision you have things to do right now you don't have time fuck around you can travel real fast by the way like real fast yeah he can try he can fly and mass doesn't slow him down you have no excuse you gave him these powers and so I would say it's critical of his character because the part that I love is the main thing he gets out when he passes through the border is you have to save these people which is really in line for vision he's all about that heroism but then that sort of gets dropped in the next episode because he's just on a comedy episode that's like why he's just doing comedic and silly things and it's only at the end where he goes oh yeah my motivation this was what was confusing for me was how much how much he was retaining because he seemed to be coming out of it when he went through the barrier and was trying to tell him to get away be safe and then going back in it's as if he forgot everything well going to as if he had his mind wiped again I just didn't understand what he was retaining and not retaining he remembers what he has to remember for this plotline to work which is I remember you person I saw you're like oh you remember that what do you remember vision it's so frustrated and so yeah I would say that they have to damage vision as a character in order to play out the storyline that they want to a degree no in near wonder and it's unfortunate because I quite like vision and I would actually say I think I'm slightly more invested in as a result of this TV show but almost in a meta way I'm like leave him alone are you ruining things what are you going to do with him you brought him back but for what reason what are your plans for him dare I ask what are you going to do please don't destroy him and weirdly to justify so like what we want to see now is the big blowout between wonder and vision like he knows the truth he's seen the outside he's talking to someone who's given away all the information about what happened and he's trying to get back to it meanwhile you'd be like well wait a minute what's she doing and you find out that she's doing an episode where she's like I don't want to talk to vision haha it's funny I don't get it like what the fuck's happening you would either mind wipe him you can rewind you can do all these kinds of things to maintain your illusion but instead you're just like I just don't want to speak to him like what wonder I don't understand these act like is she aware that her world is falling apart it's like well the episode has her like smirking or being confused at how parts of her house are converting into different eras randomly like okay it's not a solution and honestly if I was speaking to the writers they'd be like you don't understand it's her grief she's trying to avoid addressing anything anymore she's trying to just blah blah blah it's just like well no if she was doing that she would be repairing all of the fucking illusions because she can just do it she can just almost literally snap her fingers and have that happen and yeah and then she gives the kids over to Agatha and like I remember just being I don't even know what was happening anymore I was like are the kids real or not they've been converting like every however long for ages I don't know if they like spies like the brother they're going over them to Agatha means anything at all and her concern for them going missing again I don't know why she doesn't rewind or disassemble them from wherever they are and reassemble them in front of her like why wouldn't that be something she could do this is part of the whole like I just can't understand anything that's happening which and yeah so like we that big blowout that I want I want to see vision call her out I wanted to admit what she's done instead of avoiding the drama and eating cereal all episode or some shit and do you remember he finally arrives at the same time the stupid vision arrives and Agatha's having a big boss battle that's when he finally gets back to her luckily an action sequence is going on so that they can fight and then reconcile without reconciling basically yeah I don't know I don't know how it took him so long and I don't know he gets fucked again character wise if you remember his whole thing coming there is I need to stop her from conducting this illusion even at the cost of myself to save all these people he gets there he sees this big purple witch and this version of himself that's pale and he says let's fight for our home what yeah like what how does he not assume all of this is wonder why wouldn't he be like why have you created a weird purple witch person and a pale version of me what is this symbolic of your internal conflict or something what's going on here if Agnes can create a necklace that makes someone immune to mind control why didn't she make one for herself are they immune to mind control I thought that was what puts them under the spell of mind control yes is that what the necklace does it does that and it gives them superpowers oh man so you can just give people superpowers but make a necklace I brought this up earlier it's one of the things that destroys the MCU you can give someone a necklace and they'll have super speed and super strength I guess I was just inundated I really feel like that is more damage than has ever been done to this world it's insane I think this might be a little bit worse than that but both of those you're destroying super speed and super strength to anybody who gets a fucking necklace from Agatha I don't know man yeah Demo did all that damage and he doesn't even have powers what were they thinking yeah I don't know they weren't Mahler as the episode is rolled on I've just bought a visual that's now gonna trigger me into saying yes so meanwhile Monika is like I gotta get back in there I gotta help Wanda but Monika you silly bitch you're gonna get converted mind control wise what would be the point you'll go and she's like that's fine it's fine if that happens but why are they now helping Monika again after she was well they're her friends they don't work for Hayward they're not loyal to Hayward they apparently work for sword and they're loyal to her mother that's how she gets all this off the books all for friends favors absolutely sure that's how companies and military organizations work all the time I mean hell they might soon but and it's all for nothing because she decides to just fucking walk in anyway okay and somehow she's like standing there right and remember you might be like again that whole reasoning of like but if you just walk in you'll get converted and she's like nah it's fine though chill no reasoning at all to do this she is told she should not enter the barrier again because her biology is being rewritten you should be terrified by that concept by the way yeah you could come out of some weird Fallout FEV experiment you could just like disintegrate like in the blob or something who knows what will happen this is on top of you already know your brain was reorganized to have a different history and memory and values like I'm sorry to me that kind of shit would change my perception of who I am yeah like yeah existential crisis but instead right she's a cat dannings brings this up to us like you shouldn't go in another time like look at your blood work already and then she goes I've seen cells metastasize and I've seen them go into remission basically I could get lucky well it's not even I don't think that's anything I almost want to punch the writer in the face like she's seen someone go through cancer come out of it what does that have to do with anything yeah what are you talking about this is like super magic cancer it's a mystical barrier that magically changes your cells and you're like I've seen people survive cancer what the she's always right when she makes these ridiculous assumptions yeah whenever she does something incredibly stupid and boneheaded the show rewards her for her stupidity this show confuses stupidity for incredible she was bravery yes it's incredible and uh yeah as she's going through the barrier I don't know if you guys caught it but they play a line from Captain Marvel saying when they were handing out daughters they gave you like the strongest one in reference to her mom reference to her she's a strong woman and she's gonna get a fucking bunch of powers because of it I guess yeah boy they do the thing of like playing memories from her life as she's going through the barrier and I have no clue what they try to say it's happening don't get it are they trying to imply that she willed herself into having superpowers by going through the barrier yeah um they have a reference yes from Agatha at one point that the mind control thing works on the feeble minded and I don't know if they're implying that the mind control waned on Monica because she's so strong minded and eventually she was immune because she's stronger than everyone else in Westview so strong she's just the best man yeah Captain Marvel was right when she was like hey kids you're really awesome like yeah and that inspired her you see because they have to tell us the Captain Marvel's inspiring best ever because she isn't at all Captain Marvel is utterly at showing it Captain Marvel is the hero that had all of the power in the world and then stood up and you're like Rocket Raccoon is inspiring don't give me that Captain Marvel shit of course he is he's a little rocket man he's more inspiring than mother Captain Marvel is way more inspiring it was it was just a few years ago yeah Rocket had more a deeper storyline more empathy for that little raccoon that's pretty cool well Drax learned what metaphors were to give you a yeah yeah to give you a stark comparison I just had a stark comparison but I'm referencing Captain Marvel a comparison for this sort of element would be in the training camping Captain America one where they throw the grenade and he goes grenade and then he just jumps on to it to save everybody you see something like that happen you're like my god what a legend what an amazing person you're such a good person yeah you were actually willing to put yourself in harm's way to save other people and it was there's something you do because you're that good oh it's a great really like that scene a lot yeah your Captain America lots of things we say that's the rule show don't tell it's a beautiful thing and yeah so Captain Marvel's pathetic and she's the reason why Monica had the balls to go through the barrier and gain powers which is something she had no idea what would happen she even thought she might just die and she did it anyway because one does not a villain guys she's upset like it's absolutely non-functional nothing about this show is functioning anymore and we haven't even gotten to like the bulk of the last episode we're sort of just covering and even though she's kidnapped thousands of people she could have kidnapped more absolutely insane fucking crazy there are some great on reflection there are some brilliant cringe lines in this that can be used really just some of the worst dialogue in certain pieces nothing acts the way it should and it's so confusing but she catches up to Wanda's house and she's just like yo Wanda I understand and Wanda tries to throw her away but she uses I say this in quotation uses her powers to stop Wanda from doing that what? she's covered in blue goo and she's sort of just like she's like no you can't pick me up with your telekinesis because I went through the barrier oh yeah you just kind of like I guess you're cool I wouldn't have killed Monica if she wasn't like super powered uh maybe does she like slam it down or drop it down I think she slams her down let's see the clip again but she slams her down yeah yeah I think you could say that and she's shocked that she survived or uses powers Wanda's been ruined unfortunately because she's really one of the few people debating that I was invested in but oh well I think we were saying this before but I don't even know what character is going to show up in Doctor Strange 2 when she does is that Wanda or is that the Scarlet Witch whatever that means at this point what do you mean oh fuck I don't care yeah she's appealing to Wanda significantly about this horrible circumstance and Wanda even says maybe I'm the villain then Agnes just goes go away Wanda just leaves her to I guess continue to exist in her little fantasy world it's a terrible terrible moment of just what are you doing there's a whole conversation to be had and then she's sort of just like hey stop it and then Monika like slowly tries to keep up with them it's the meme of pointing at the cat like that's what it is she's like you're a I don't like you but Monika just sort of gives up until she decides maybe I should go after them and then Quicksilver gets her or foe Quicksilver but they do the cat meme they do the woman shouting at the cat meme that's just happened wait and that's not honest to God that's on purpose that is totally on purpose they totally set that up to look like the uh the woman shouting at the cat meme I can believe they did that on purpose and not actually anything important on purpose like I could tell that was probably their priority I do like the way that Monika just fuck all afterwards well she takes ages to catch up to them I don't know why um Quicksilver kidnaps her and uh yeah I guess because like there's not much more now before we can uh talk quickly about episode 8 Quicksilver Quicksilver just like when she takes him out he just just decides not to be using his powers anymore I didn't understand that man he was using it more as that entire time and he just loses it's like what the hell let me explain they need to delay her for x amount of time that is why yeah and the timer is up uh how does she escape Quicksilver just doesn't use his powers it makes sense like oh all right well I guess that wraps that up in a neat little boat she destroys the amulet that's how she does it he does it by like tackling him and taking him down because he just doesn't use his powers he's very strong the fact is like he pokes her she flies across the room I think some people believe that that's momentum but it only works with cartoons you can't have that work that way in real life that's just a fuck up you can't have momentum he stops so besides though he has to have some level of super strength density or constitution to be able to survive going super fast like you can't just do that otherwise you just uh friction would just burn you up he'd be dead yeah friction and the internal organs so she flips him she gets on top of him and he's like oh no what was me and then she does her eye thing and then she spots the necklace then rips it and he doesn't do anything throughout that whole sequence if he did she wouldn't be able to be jelly in the end it's consequentially it still has an effect but um yeah uh lucky her power allows her to see cast spells I guess is what that is unfortunate I was that great aren't they unfortunately she didn't enchant his shoe if you wouldn't be able to see it unfortunately the mind control just doesn't imagine for a moment that the spell was just you can see purple stuff on his head like a you know like a plasmary looking thing like what is she gonna do then? rip it off it's like it's not even really attached it's just it's around him much like the mind control works for everyone else but no this guy he had a necklace and it's like the only reason I can think of that he had a necklace unlike everyone else is because he also needed to have super speed which again what the fuck if he'd been around in that final fight then he would have been able to defeat most of them all of them yeah um probably even the kids because he's gonna be better at it than they are I guess I don't know how did they get powers did she give them to him without a necklace because she's wandered she can do anything she wants that's a very good question it's so weird how they just randomly then have powers like oh awesome it's so that they can fight at the end it's so that you can have that cool little shot where like the camera like zooms in and it's like the Incredibles where they're like yeah it's like but it's socks they should not have fought man the kids it doesn't make any sense it was a deleted scene with Monica where she fights Agatha's bunny it got cut is that real yeah it turns into a giant monster bunny giant monster bunny I mean at least that would have been something ridiculous I could have seen that might have been entertaining might have lost yeah yeah I might have laughed at it at how stupid that is that bunny might actually come out to be like the most unscathed character funny at the best arc bunny will be the king of the MCU by the end of this so bunny will return in Avengers in game it didn't take too long but episode 8 often cited as like a good one I'm not a fan except for maybe one scene the penultimate episode where you get a lot of history for Wanda this could be where our panel finally have more of a disagreement because everything's been so terrible at this point I am aside from for some reason her explaining everything to Wanda which was really dumb like she just shouldn't have told her anything to get what she wants which is to sap her powers and understand her which is to look in her memories instead she explains to what magic is after then saying don't you know what magic is because you're a witch like it's all really really poorly done but it's to get us information to understand a few more mechanics but then I see what they're trying to do to set things up yeah scene's in isolation to an extent my trouble is just the mechanism for which they do it it's just like her leading Wanda through I haven't even gone to the actual memories yet I was just talking about the setup as well as she's definitely evil you see because she feeds a bug to her rabbit that was weird it's like the bug went up her nose didn't it I don't care that much about the bug I was just like okay so this is again going on the list of it transforms into a bird oh yeah she turns into a bit and then feeds the un-transformed thing she feeds it to the rabbit whatever then the rabbits the rabbits like insane the rabbits crazy watch out for that rabbit man yeah that rabbit will fuck up a bird the rabbit will return in avengers so from Holy Grail memory one and I honestly think that this is kind of how a lot of book readers feel when they see things adapted it's kind of a similar feeling I was always a big fan of the origin story being told to us as it recanted as a motivation in Age of Ultron because I think it's a really good one seeing all of it play out explicitly covering all of the possible things you could ever be confused by it started coming across as really lame first and foremost hey dad tries to sell sitcoms and we watch them as a family and they play episode portions and then they just fill the screen with Wanda's face be really happy with her family while watching sitcoms do you get it I need an explanation as to why someone likes sitcoms yeah I don't need to know why she likes her family or considers family a comforting thought and sitcoms a world she decided to go into instead they're like you see bewitched Malcolm in the middle Dick Van Dyke show if father has all these they watch them to learn English better also she loves it and that is why she did what she did in this season I'm like you're explaining stuff you didn't need to explain and you're not explaining anything that needs to be explained you don't have to tell me why a fat kid likes a chocolate bar I get it I get it she grew up in Sokovia or wherever else just a horrible place under war and the idea that she watched sitcoms to get away from it all I didn't need you to show me that I get it then well yeah so then it plays out the scene that we already knew about but now we see it which is the Stark used bomb crashes in their parents presumably were killed by the initial explosion or whatever even though they got that bit wrong I can't remember what the original story was doesn't wonder say when she's explaining it there's a whole world of war and our parents go in yeah doesn't she say there was one word on it Stark and this one has actually Stark Industries I mean even the whole story there's kind of like the thing is they said that there's a giant hole on the floor wasn't there just a bunch of rubble I don't remember there being a hole in the floor and that the parents fell in but the big fundamental thing is what an interesting story it is that you were just the family that the bomb didn't go off in just by pure chance by pure luck you're the ones who didn't get blown up now what we know is that wonder cast a probability hex a child to stop the bomb from going off I think we all could have guessed that all the clues were there like I mean fundamentally I think that's like just so much worse as an idea but also how does she even know she just did it unwittingly which by the way we're entering to serious problems for the MCU because there's a couple of bits and bobs of language that I think they're gonna do the thing we hate which is you can do all of this and you will do all of this because you're the scarlet witch which is like what do you mean the scarlet witch seems to be prescriptive and not descriptive which is fucking unfortunate because they justify all kinds of bullshit which is the chosen one thing essentially you're the Deus Ex Machina you're the chosen witch this is why it's so much more interesting a whole bunch of people would have been affected by Stark weaponry the idea that one of them was a dud is perfectly likely and the family that were affected by it they stared at the bomb for two days before what I thought the story was they realized that it's like their movements or their interaction with it won't affect it or someone came in to help them but they were staring at the word Stark and waiting for it to kill them for two days that's really powerful as a reason to hate Tony Stark or the Stark family then you combo that up with what I think is a missed opportunity you could have it before this happened that she kind of thought that like America was awesome in terms of seeing all of their media and how happy and wholesome all of it is with great lessons then she finds out that Stark is like the biggest billionaire in America and that this is what destroyed everything and so the love of sitcoms gets like pitted against her and is part of like an ongoing grief cycle of trying to rationalize what she believes about the world outside of the home that she had you know you have all of these different possibilities all these different storylines and instead they just tell us what we already knew but then say it was a spell that did it that's way more satisfying sure I'm glad they re-contextualized her backstory to be about magic spells so it's as good as the guy having his eyes scratched out by a cat well yeah that's another great turn yeah we talked briefly about the whole bono quick silver thing apparently was I remember seeing the article was that inspired by Iron Man 3 did you say meme repository was that what he said yeah he said that his favorite part of Iron Man 3 was the mandarin twist and that was heavily influential with that bono twist oh but I wouldn't call that a twist no in a certain sense just watching me in misery like ha ha ha isn't that funny you weren't expecting that got you my eyes were rolling to the back of my fucking head bono I think I said this on free stream but when I first saw that scene I was like I hadn't reacted yet because I was just like wait are we is that you just said that he's a guy in this town he was given a spell to pretend to be a brother his name is Ralph Bono are we doing this are we saying that it was all just lolly's name is bono bono like and Agatha Harkness can cast a spell that would give quick silver powers like can you do that with all the superheroes and I mean why would you need Juan does magic at that point I mean you can do whatever you want oh this screenshot that drags a cent there are now inconsistencies Pietro says we were 10 years old having dinner the four of us when the first shell hits two floors below it makes a hole in the floor it's big our parents go in and the whole building starts coming apart I grab her roll her under the bed and the second shell hits but it doesn't go off sits there in the rubble three feet from our faces and on the side is painted one word which you mentioned before as stark um yeah they weren't having dinner they're watching Malcolm the middle or something but no Dick Van like that's right we wait two days for Tony Stark to kill us I remember finding that so effective just like yeah great it's great and now it's fucked it's been this is one of a new content can retroactively screw up all the absolutely and this is so unnecessary they didn't need to explain any of this just like more said there was so many other things we needed explanation of this was not one of them and you know what it's kind of a cool line where he says I said why you you too the only one that survived the experiments now I don't he's referring to willpower a good old fashioned they have such a hatred for Stark um that they managed to push through the experiments but yeah but but now it's like well she survived because she's the scarlet witch you know like stop saying that please stop saying that and then I don't get your survived because yeah um because because because I don't think we've talked about it in a piecto whose um was magical too like that's another I think they yeah I think they want to do maybe they just came up short right they like they wanted to introduce the mutants and they're like no no no we can't do it on Disney plus we need to do it a movie or something because they just toyed with the idea they could have set it up they could have it could have been one of those things where not even one to knows what's happening or or we don't get an explanation quite yet but it's one of those little oh so so okay yeah Disney needs to describe everything to you anytime you get close to being emotional they drop back last minute because they don't want you feeling any sad feelings because of the audience enhanced data-driven analysis how um how garbage by the way the the tv happens to fall in view of the bomb so it's just gonna play sitcoms for the two days that they're just like okay all right mm-hmm it wouldn't because the dvd would run out yeah yeah it would get to the end of the episode and stop yeah yeah it'd be the menu at the very least oh yes and I was pointing out earlier you have to listen to the menu music for two oh god i FBI warning and as pointed out earlier they can't even count to two apparently because um they put so Pietro's line was like there was just one word painted on the side of it start and in when you actually see the scene it's stark industry so that's two words so they fucked it up like in a very small way again so they can't even get like the very small details right to me it always came across as whenever they keep track of old shit they just go from memory like I'm pretty sure it was something like they were in a house and a bomb hit I think we'll just go from there it's like why don't you really take too much just to go pull out a copy of major bolt drum and find out look at the script please somebody just pull out a blue ray of age of ultrum let's just take us two seconds to get to it and nah nah so yeah um I think it's like the worst of both worlds not only did they show me shit that I didn't need to see they've also changed it like so it's just like thanks for that you've made it worse and I didn't need to see it in the first place then you get the next scene which is the biden stowed detaches itself from the staff to walk right up to her and give her a vision of the scarlet witch okay that was really was that in her head was that what the it was implying or was was that real did it actually come out and like attach itself to her like what was that all about no idea and it implies like the stones costume like what the the stones have a conscience and they want to like do things so they would I don't think um I don't understand it's such a weird moment I didn't know what the hell I was watching when I saw that I was like dude what is going on why is the stone like a also really shitty dialogue they have a walk in and he's like please approach the stone also he says like forward or something like that and then the guy next to him goes with respect to know not one subject has survived you why would you tell him that he knows that why would you say that where you don't it's like they told us that why are you gonna hold me back bro they told they said it because they want us to understand this is special it's like I already do that fuck I hope what is okay and yeah for some reason it fucks with time to the point where the camera didn't record any of the shenanigans it just cuts from her standing to her on the floor and they're like how weird I don't know I don't know why I did that but the universe doesn't want them to see it I guess because if we see it happen it's not a mystery box yeah and while she's waiting in her cell they fucking play sit cobs it's open and there's nothing left in it sit cobs are following her a whole life you see it's not critical that you're just piling it on and all these flashbacks and it never turned up in any of her scenes previously she never expressed an interest in TV or sitcoms in any way or referenced them no no and you might be like well what do you want then I just be like I think you can do it without all this gay shit just have it that she's interested in sitcoms like why do you have to force it so hard I've been watching this episode and I'm not gonna lie this is a bunch of gay shit it's frustrating because I'm like ah she's someone who would have watched a lot of sitcoms and she probably had access to older shit because she was in a poorer country I get it that's fine and then you show me all this and I'm like oh my god everywhere she goes they fucking play stupid sitcoms in a room like really it's it's the kind of thing that you would literally be seeing in batwoman yeah yeah every step along the way of like the constant flashbacks over and over and over and over and over again so finally get to a scene that I like she had vision discuss like they have what is one of their opening conversations and it's a really good one to build their relationship from he doesn't really have much of a reason to talk to him and he doesn't really have much of a reason to talk to her unless what they make clear which is that he's curious to look after her because she's clearly in pain because her brother died at the end of age of Ultron and she's like why are you talking to me because talking about is not gonna help I want him back and then he tries to explain the desire to want him back the grief you're experiencing I understand it's and it's it's love persevering after a relatively lengthy explanation from his point of view which is that a person who lacks anyone he cares about because he was born yesterday as he says in age of Ultron he's just trying to understand emotions and I was like you know what I wonder if anyone else wrote this scene because it's so much better than everything in the season I know what you mean it's just like more of this please more of this relationship and how it unfolded and how you know they they came these two damaged or you know one naive one really damaged individual how do they come together you know it's and it's before Avengers Age of Ultron so like it's we've seen their relationship come more to fruition in Civil War and Infinity War so it's like it's laying the groundwork of like what came before and it's it's really solid stuff and then they ruin it well not not entirely but I fucking hated it when they both like smile each other and the scene is very clear of what it's saying and then Agatha goes so your mom and dad died your brother died and then vision died and so no one could stop you when you fell to the darkness thank you thank you Agnes thank you for being here it honestly felt like the show was like maybe they didn't get it maybe they didn't get that Wanda cared about vision and he helped her deal with her grief and when he was gone she had nobody maybe they didn't get it I don't know they have a lot of faith in their audience streaming for the lowest common denominator Disney plus D plus do you know who's got some D pluses Cat Denning Cat Denning's Beverly and yeah the last flashback I guess is when she comes in sees the body is at peace the vision is gone goes to a house that presumably vision bought for them like a lot he sent because she got a letter with but he never told her or I don't know what the show was trying to say I thought they were in another country I don't know when he bought the lot and then wrote the letter to say let's live here forever I don't know when that happened but apparently it did this is our forever home wasn't it I don't know when did he do that it was a shitty lot maybe he got a good price well it was a really shitty lot I assumed was the plan for them to build a house there was not the idea maybe someone hey I've just been told that Mahler was wondering if anyone else wrote that scene apparently Paul Bettany had them rewrite that scene oh yeah there you go understands the character yeah somebody that actually understands what's going on damn that man has been in charge of his own character from now on absolutely fuck him because like honestly it's like the only scene that I feel this show is worth seeing for because even the sitcom stuff that I like it doesn't really go anywhere or do anything it's more so a charming thing you could check out that scene it's like a natural addition to Civil War you know yeah pop it into Civil War as like a prologue scene even I don't know I don't want to fuck with Civil War too much of course because I don't want to fuck up the timeline but like it's a scene that is it only helps the rest of the MCU that I've seen the timeline's fucked up it's really fucked up now but didn't Captain Marvel fuck it up I still haven't seen that film they all don't didn't that fuck the timeline up it fucks it fucks with stuff for sure I can't remember how much damage it does compared to Nick Fury the Avengers the entire it retroactively makes his eye thing bad originally we're told that the Avengers were created because of Thor coming to that town and leveling it in that fight but apparently no instead it was all of these shenanigans that happened in Captain Marvel actually it creates the issue of the they just don't even address the fact that these massive warships exploded in Earth's atmosphere and no one just seems to give a shit or know about it or care um why would you stuff like that yeah it screws up a lot of movies they got this the property deed from New Jersey from Wanda Maximoff and The Vision there you go it's just like when did he do this okay fine if he goes here and cries and then explodes and you know that's what women do they go home they cry and then they explode she shots out magic and transforms the town it would make so much more sense if this was a manipulation by Agatha the whole thing was a manipulation yeah you need serious rewrites but like uh making Agatha the architect is probably the best way to save Wanda from being incredibly villainous I would say yeah because she just comes out bad yeah you know what you can have Agnes either be the villain or just a parallel hero who's trying to like let her down easy maybe if he wanted to rewrite it or she is she's trying to inhibit Wanda's latent energy um and then maybe if you want to get rid of them both then maybe Wanda is somewhat victimized by her own power because of her emotions but this old sorceress can teach her how to harness her powers and train her so they go off to do that so they could bring him back whenever they need him for another movie or show or whatever but um yeah they did it really badly it's yeah they mixed up the hero and the villain and it's just a mess it's all just horrible it was it wasn't actually Agatha we wish it was Agatha all along we really did it's kind of Wanda Maxima for a long so she didn't kill Sparky when Agatha finds all this out she realizes she's the Scarlet Witch from this and thus continues the initial plan of suck suck the power that's all she wants to do so that whole episode really plot wise doesn't change a thing it's just to give us context that I honestly think we knew most of this except most of it now adding whole bunch of questions unfortunately like a lot of this stuff is better left unsaid like this stuff was in the subtext of the previous films or like recounted through dialogue and it's like you really don't need this to play out visually especially not in this context like you could do it through quick flashes or something but we really don't need this extended scene of them cowering of another bomb you know it's not it's better as a story I pictured all of it now I'm watching it all it's like sort of labor it's usually labor yeah especially when you have this incompetent creative team trying to fucking pull it off which wait are we pulling it off or sucking it off I'm really confused why not both which takes us to episode 8 by the way we've managed to cover portions of 8 already so it shouldn't be too painful to get through but it is easily I'm so used to portions of 8 9 is where we're at 9 is the disaster so it opens I guess with Agatha being like right I'm a making cast spells so I can suck you and you're like alrighty unfortunately at the same time evil vision is made his way in and his job is to kill them both and at the same time visions discovered the truth he doesn't really care because he's going to get into a big old boss battle I guess the there's so many things I don't even know where to begin with this shit Agatha's immortal right like she's been lost for ages or at least lost a long long time somewhat let's just assume is she also like super strong because she gets hit by a car no I have killed so that part confused me when I was watching it too I was like oh she's dead because she just kind of hit by a car and only her shoes are left I didn't know what they were telling me it was like nah she teleported out you're like but she was clearly hit by it all that was was just a cheap wicked wisp out visuals and quippy little yeah but wicked wisp died of that scene to referencing which is like another one of those weird things like oh yeah she's dead because if you drop a house on a witch she dies yeah walk around houses those are the two you can walk behind Wanda and shoot her in the head you can walk up behind Dr. Strange shoot him in the head same with human torch there's a bunch of heroes where they got these amazing powers but you can still blow him away with just a 9mm she should have been dead except Monica who's bullet yeah well she'll jelly them yeah it's supposed to be energy too it's supposed to be light I don't know why it becomes jelly at some point but yeah I hope people can understand I think it's a valid concern because look at this screenshot I think that's pretty funny you already see it for a split second or so yeah wow my god it looks like a witch's prop on halloween it looks like a witch's prop on halloween she's wrapped around the car she's eating that car she's eating that bumper I'm all of a sudden remembering why I thought she died she was crumpled like a paper mache doll yep it does fuck all because she just comes back later but we'll have to do this piece by piece she used a soul stone and took a health potion evil vision shows up and he's supposed to be a drone that's designed to kill them and instead he's like wander I'm evil by the way like he knows that I don't get it he takes his time you just use the laser on your head and cut her in half glass cannon I knew we were going to install this quirky personality into him it's like he's confused when he first walks to order he's just like what's happening weird life is strange and then he's like lol I'm actually going to kill you and you're like oh my god that made all of the stuff he just did really weird but okay the interesting part to me I think has all been highlighted by many people is the head crack thing I think I even tweeted about it she's the normal sound you have a cracking sound it is undeniably bone cracking sound effects you're just like what is that if it's not her head it should have been instant why wouldn't it even take like he's vibranium this isn't Jason Voorhees where he's a little bit human so it might take him a second to pop that head pimple this is a robot what makes it worse is he's crushing her to the point of her skull cracking that is a strong grip he's got there vision tackles him at the speed of presumably a high amount surely that took him by surprise surely he's taking Wanda's head with him that should have gone pop at least snapping her neck you just see her body flailing around because it's barely attached by the skin of her throat because everything else is broken off like I just maybe I'd wobbly thumb fingers it just walks down like safely it's just a quick fall was he not holding on at all it's like he has butter fingers vision is real fucking lucky he didn't kill him by doing that yeah and like her skull was cracking that well it's fine because if it was she'd be dead so I'm sure it's fine Gary I also like that of all the things he could be tossed into it's the gas the catastor on the caravan just explodes this is when you know we're in for the MCU sludge everyone now for the MCU sludge was there a canister on the back? yeah yeah of all the things he could have been thrown at it's something that explodes it's stuff of course we're back to evil like villain with the same powers as the hero fighting it's like it's super exciting stuff for the MCU was it free were we talking about this like the I can't remember if it was rags how the whole wouldn't it be making more sense to flip them yeah yeah yeah so the logic I had was like if Agatha can suck Wanda's magic powers then surely vision should fight Agatha and Wanda should fight come vision that makes more sense he can't have males fight females anymore the problem now because it would be way more interesting to try and see them counter each other because of course why do I want to see vision fight vision that's fucking I think both of them are lame as fuck as just said it I mean it's going to be stupid but that's the future you're going to see people I mean I don't know if you're going to be able to see like a white guy fight a black guy anymore you know it sounds crazy but that's what they're doing this is all this Bechtel test and you don't want to go down that route because the problem is like when I sit here and think about vision versus come vision it's like why do that I don't see the utility in having two identical characters fight each other my first thing with that fight was just going corporeal and stand still and be like so what are we doing what are we doing because like this fight doesn't end so we have to have it and that's to me is what vision would do he just go thinking and be like you can't hurt me if I really hurt you let's talk which they eventually do but not for a while yeah they're full on man of steel with this fight as well because that was almost a you think you could hurt my mother yeah you can't hurt my mother I'm not usually this confrontational like vision usually will open like trying to be the voice of reason like that's what he does when he arrives at the airport instead of civil war it's like he's usually not like the hot guy in the compound as we highlighted he doesn't even question who evil villain evil vision and purple witch lady are he just deals with it like well this is happening he doesn't even acknowledge her till the end right because they're supposed to be separate that's the way they write shit now it's crazy it's going to be very hard to write superhero films when you put so much restriction on yourself you can't if you're going to have a super powered woman you can't have drinker pointed this out in his villains video at the end of Thor Ragnarok you couldn't have a fully powered Thor taking on Hela oh yeah third party had to slice her apart and yet he says in he says in the very next film I had to kill my sister but he didn't kill her well yeah he could see himself as to blame in terms and he would have been okay with her dying right he would have sanctioned it if you will god you can almost hear Hansima playing when that shot starts yeah so I think it's really weird that Agatha is like uh-oh your ex and your boyfriend at the same place like Agatha aren't you like what the fuck is that what the hell is that what is convision doing here what is this convision nobody behaves like the way they should it's weird exactly yeah I'm fine this vision is trying to kill Wanda that's bad for me because I need to suck her powers and I don't care for some reason what is happening she teleports away closer to the town and so it becomes clear that she wants to start enticing Wanda to cast spells like I said there's some level of making sense here but then when Wanda actually does start casting spells she doesn't do anything remember when she strangles everybody she's got a little red goo coming out of her Agatha doesn't do anything she doesn't do the big suck she does suck on other scenes she's really inconsistent with it you act like the only way that she can suck is when she throws those like balls and then she can suck with that but any other thing yeah what happens that's wonderful if I had like a concrete cube that I put those runes inside and so anybody in there can't cast spells but then I put that in a really big concrete cube that also had runes in it from a different witch and then I put that in a really really big cube with like who's how does that work who's is that I ain't got a fucking Danny LaRoum mate I have no idea it's fine big suck so moving on we get all the hayward stuff we've been over it so we're all good we can move on and the bonus stuff excellent work good job yeah Agatha like tosses and throws Wanda quite a bit with powerful blasts and again it always feels like this applies to Agatha too it's just like do you guys forget these aren't super humans these are people they've got super powers but they're as individuals they're just as mortal as us yeah and then just like in my spooky book it says that you're gonna do you're gonna destroy humanity or something isn't that what she says you're gonna be like you're gonna kill everyone damn I can't remember what exactly she said I just remember thinking like oh god are we doing Dark Phoenix I'm guessing eventually or something yeah probably similar yeah like yeah she says your destiny she can just summon the book of the dam just casually she says your destiny is to destroy the world can I summon an amazing that's your destiny that's her destiny apparently and then Wanda was able to do it later as well like where did she learn to summon the satan book well yeah cause there's no reason why she should be able to do that right like nobody she even says I'm not a witch I don't cast spells and no one taught me magic which how does she even know what astral projection is yeah and interesting she says that and then a few seconds later cast the fucking ruins which don't even match so we can't even have the she has like photographic memory excuse which is still bullshit but also hey come on Harry Potter talks to snakes before he knows he's a wizard that's true and it was Superman's first day you're right wait wanna get a piece of armor but I think the most damning