ry bad back they only took two of those tablets and i suited the purpose they have a full box of them sitting in the house they actually had placed me to take sleep on tablets and i said no i wouldn't touch them right now it's clear freddy it's clear freddy that you are very much in control of the situation here right that you uh you know what you need sulfur dean for you know when to take them and you know not to take them regularly again is it possible freddy that another person who's not just quite as on on top of everything as you are that maybe had a niggling pain right and rather than go to the gp they were going in and chewing sulfidine tablets not addressing what could be the underlying health problem and and maybe even then finding themselves addicted to a tablet is it not better to ask people and maybe risk offending the likes of yourself if it could help someone who maybe is on their own maybe is an older person that just does not quite have as much control of you know their medication taking as you do i'm not i hope you don't think i'm trying to oh absolutely i hope you don't think i'm trying to sort of disagree with you freddy i'm just wondering i'm just kind of feeling that maybe they've asked people and it's led to a series of events that's got someone the medical help that they need they have actually gone and got that i would sit at home with a pain for six months rather than go to a doctor for it i'm just wondering i'm the type of person they're trying to to help no again i have no reason to be offended or somebody actually informally what they can do because they're still going to send them to me anyway you understand they are still going to send if i ever said to them well i am addicted to them uh now remember if they actually send me that medication which i don't know what it was against the law not after me admitting it's more to do with the way that the approach to people rather than the actual tablets themselves they can see i've been told maybe two years ago uh now i'm picking up two of them tablets they may be after a bottle of wine or two and i don't know on the sap of the knife that's what cures that but uh not to make a joke of it no i don't understand that the way that it was approached directly asking me for my medical history and for other people Freddie you know uh you know you can get addicted to these things yes no problem i already know that now uh i'm not going to admit to you if i'm a drug addict and all fairness if i'm going to get them i'm going to say no or i i understand that no where you go yeah i get you i know what you're saying so in other words what what does that question actually really achieve because if you were uh you're not going to have so it's not going to be sort of an intervention in front of a load of strangers at a receptionist cancer i counter i do get your point this caller says Freddie i suffer from severe headaches and also take sulfidine you feel like a drug addict when you ask for them why don't they put them on prescription then if they're so dangerous so that person's actually does have a medical condition yeah that's exactly my point now they're actually saying like that if i was uh say i addicted to them i could go from that chemist to the next chemist to the next chemist that i whatever i want it you know what i mean it's not just that chemist they're all going to give them to you because as far as they're concerned there's another general drug you're going to pocket they don't care about your condition enough but it's the way that i was offended by the way it was approached yesterday okay but it's not the first time you've been offended by by the questions on it by your own uh evidence another caller says and being a slightly more sympathetic to the chemist maybe they were asking you to see if they could recommend some alternative other than sulfidine that if you didn't have a standard yeah i understand that too but that would be a way of actually if you really do that um because i know i'm tense at the funding but they could take it to the one side rather than a big screen and they're more or less having to raise their voice now if i was going to tell them my condition i would have went to be doctor i wouldn't have went to a chemist for a few sulfidine and yeah there's a lot of people also if they go in to see uh the the the pharmacy lead or if they see a gp they don't want to divulge their information to a receptionist or someone at the counter uh i we get that a lot this caller says just listening to freddy there i feel the receptionists at the doctors as well ask what's wrong with you before they give you appointment it's so annoying that they need to know your private personal medical business while another says this is normal procedure in all chemists but you're uh you're into chemists you've been in quite a bit it's not them informing you you would prefer if they didn't inform you that the tablets are addictive it's them asking you what you're taking them for particularly in front of other people that you took uh take particular ombrage with freddy that's exactly what it is now if they had said to me just look uh they can share it right from the top of the borson there's a matter of fact i wouldn't mind it if they said these this medication you can get addicted if you take it you know you don't take it for any more than four days which i understand i can relate to that but as far as i'm concerned no chemist should be allowed to sell uh an addictive drug without a doctor's prescription that's basically what this is all about maybe they have uh the chemists have to do their part they were told to do this by the government but that's exactly the point they shouldn't have to tell the people not to take this drug because it's addictive it's addictive get a doctor's prescription yeah make up your mind one way or other yeah okay because i would see what you were talking about here just uh about the guarantee and i think you can go buy a prescriptions or uh over the counter stuff cough medicine sulfidine the likes of that stuff that's being it's being concocted then into something uh that creates a buzzer or high you know exactly well at least you got them covers you give me a buzzer nothing to do is actually get me sure head away but that's grand because it's me one thought you're self inflicted freddie you're your own worst enemy you are exactly one bottle away in a week and i get a headache i'll try something else try and put the Guinness or something what are you doing the only the only thing i look at is the distance from the bottle okay well i wouldn't want to be i'd say you're you could be a wee bit feisty the day after the night before maybe until the table's kicking listen freddie i mean i know where you're i i i i i know exactly where you're coming from but i also know life is short and i wonder is it worth your efforts going in and getting your blood pressure up and and and looking for a refund but it's your choice and it's your decision and it's what you want to do i'm not getting it sorry greg i'm not getting the blood pressure no not literally not literally you know what i mean you know what i know exactly what you mean i would like to talk to the manager and if they're gonna train their staff train them to deal with people like me now if a young one was in there looking for tablets i don't get them there they're gonna go to the next chemist and they're gonna meet somebody who's not gonna even mention it yeah but it's just they're gonna be trained they should be trained properly they should be said this is how you deal with the public okay you have to stay in there you ring up the doctor's surgery and they're asking you why do you want to see the doctor because i'm sick the end of story other than that i wouldn't be looking to see the doctor but for them to get your medical history and then live the next door to you perhaps yeah i get you and i understand and it's just not that quite a lot of people don't feel there's that uh and we don't think anyone is passing on medical information but you bump into them in the street if you bump into your doctor you don't mind but if you bump into their receptionist it can feel a little bit different i get that and i understand yeah exactly all right listen freddy thanks for joining us hopefully you get sorted all right all right freddy take care of yourself nice to chat to you good man all right another caller says the assistants are breaking the law if they don't ask those questions but what questions and at least maybe if there's a level of consistency there i think which is what freddy's talking about that uh are they when you say by law they have to ask the question is an assistant by law have to ask you what you're taking your medicine for i wonder if it's uh over the counter uh you know if you ordered eyedrops or whatever it might be is it particularly sulfur dine another caller said i had a similar experience in a pharmacy i asked for a strong strength of an over-the-counter medicine they actually called out the pharmacist to put me off buying it i explained i wasn't taking them i wanted them in the first aid kit as a precaution backup i just dug my heels in and said you are selling me them or not and they did okay so why stock it why stock it if um the pharmacy is going to be called over to discourage you from purchasing it greg that man is so right it's like buying cocaine at the counter if you ask for sulfur dine it's a disgrace the way the staff ask you in a chemist about sulfur dine that comes in from anmarie keep the calls coming in on that to 07491 25 000 or what's that protects us the 90 noon show with letter kenny credit union now offering mycu current account and debit mastercard bringing full banking features delivered with the same local trustworthy service of your credit union my family needs refreshing so we're off to center parks reconnecting with nature really 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seen because i think uh they've kind of kept their heads down whilst the conversation was on sort of the principal private residence and i get that but maybe the time now the time now is to talk about it so even tell us about what what you're hearing from people and how they're affected yeah the time is definitely now um you know farmers understand that their homes are covered within the the scheme so you know everything that we're doing on the home front is is covered michael daherty's putting in sterling work there and certainly at the end of this the statue has to go up and cooled off to that man because it's uh it's he's he's he's done sterling work for the cause and um the department of housing will look after principal private residences rental homes and uh and um holiday homes but when it comes to other things reg we're looking at the agri buildings businesses who have uh whose buildings are affected by mica and also public buildings and there's nothing within the department of housing and the scheme that will cover that because the scheme itself only covers housing so what government were were more or less expecting us to do were to go to each of those relevant departments those are the department of agriculture department of trade and enterprise department of the environment and start to start to cause from scratch and literally go to them educate their civil servants and what mica is all about and how it's affecting farmers and how it's affecting businesses and and public buildings and and ultimately that that wasn't acceptable to us and and that's where we looked upon europe as the answer to all of this because the only place that our government can be answerable to is the european union and we have got to work within the european union at different levels to try and get the government to to be answered to this so you know can i can ask where um well let's just focus on farm buildings for now and of course it also includes other things that the other things that you mentioned damon where does this fit though in the 100 percent mica redress scheme the campaign right this enhanced scheme uh hopefully we're going to see significant progress on that shortly that scheme will be put in place can that is that scheme accepted without say for instance farm buildings being included or now are we uh extending the goalpost to say it's always been in there don't get me wrong emin but i hope you understand the question are we saying no actually really we need the farm builders being included before we accept this enhanced scheme or are they running parallel at the same time or are they all one and the same because the scheme is coming from the department of housing only housing is involved in the scheme and something has got to be done for the other three aspects that i mentioned and that's where we're working in the background to try and and get solutions for farmers and business owners and you know public buildings and that's that's where that's where the european will go the european union will come into a greek you know i mean we've been successful on three different levels here within the european union firstly um we've succeeded in getting funding and approval for an international symposium on defective blocks and that symposium will be bringing geologists cement experts from all over the world as well as MEPs to the northwest in june of this year and it'll also bring the world's media along with it and you know anything that puts the government under a little bit of heat we're very accepting to the second thing as you may have got my updates from brussels where the the penny committee that we had uh joe and an had presented to and we were successful in moving our petitions forward to the technical committee and the product committee which doesn't happen as often as people might think that was quite a hurdle to jump and you know to to get through to two committees was quite surprising to us at the time the product committee was the main one we were looking for but to get through to the technical committee was quite surprising but unfortunately the technical committee at this stage has said that it's a product issue another technical issue so all our eggs are in the one basket with that one and we are we are still in a good position and luke ming and the left in europe are helping us put a program together that will give us the most success at the product committee and once we get hopefully we'll get forwarded from that to the european commission all right well presumably there's e eu money in some of these buildings there's e you know peace funding or whatever it might be in in in uh other buildings that are now uh falling to bits are you saying are we looking at potential revenue streams from europe to fix these types of buildings or is it the pressure from europe on the irish government and the irish taxpayer that will will burden that cost what what or all options on the table at this point amen it is all options on the table that i would say it's a mixture of both great because the european union will push the irish government under a little bit of pressure to include these other buildings while the european union itself who also give a lot of cap and a lot of grants out to farmers and to businesses and we will be looking for grants to be included within that mica scheme so that these businesses can get back on their feet again but i mean you know the last thing to mention about the european union greg um is our work with the nps and ultimately the irish nps are responsible for the spending of e eu phones within ireland and as as you know you've been on this journey with us mag was formed in january 2014 and we had our first meeting with government in april 2014 so at that point they were officially informed of an issue with the effect of blocks in the county and they should have done their due diligence but they didn't and you know we're even still sitting here today wondering whether blocks are fit for purpose and whether the new blocks going into new homes will be fit for purpose i find it remarkable that that guarantee can't be given by the housing minister no nobody has sent in to get everyone available for that is available for inspections to go in be it a raid or agreed to go in and take out products get them all tested right across the country wherever it might be so that we have some confidence that if you're rebuilding a micro affected homes that you're building it with blocks that aren't going to end up in the same situation in a number of years that is a non-brain i can't understand why there hasn't been a big push in that regard is i know greg i mean they're uh they're tightening the screws and tightening the poor strings when it comes to giving money out to mica home owners but yet they haven't stopped the floodgates at the far end you know are mica homes still being made right now greg yeah well we don't know we don't know and and that's this i think that is a question that can i put that question and i've said this a couple of times because the person ultimately responsible here is the housing minister and i asked him if he could say with certainty that we aren't still using defective blocks to repair already broken homes and the answer was no i find that remarkable i'm not sure i could stand over a department where that would be my answer in donagol where people are being put through the mill is it a hundred percent redress or say the farm and business community are they saying you know a significant assistance in terms of redress is there a stance the stance should be similar within europe greg the stance should be also 100% um but we're only starting off now within europe and trying to get answers in europe but my feeling on it is that as i mentioned due diligence should have been carried out and due diligence wasn't carried out at the time which means that both MEPs and EU auditors will have questions of the irish government and those questions will have to be answered this year greg and i think it's answers that we've all been looking for for years that the irish government just won't answer and they will have to be answerable to europe yeah well i mean they can be sanctioned by whether they're answerable or not i think they're ultimately answerable answerable to the people uh let us not forget that we are paying on one project alone to the EU commission 15 000 euro in daily fines because of you know breaches controversies it's costing millions in fines and that's just one project so the EU can can can give us a slap on the wrist can even punish us in the pocket but it's the taxpayer again that ends up picking up the bill for the government not heeding the EU warnings and i'm not in any way trying to dilute your point aim and i hope you understand that but you know where there's there's millions that could be fixing an awful lot of homes being paid in penalties to the EU by us right now as we speak and that's on one ruling alone okay so the next uh the next step of this european project then is a project campaign uh is june is that correct to hear you correctly we have the symposium in june correct but before that prior to that we're actually meeting up in march you were supposed to be meeting in brussels in march but because of restrictions in the european union we are doing it over zoom and so you're you're welcome to join us from highland on the day and it will have those people there ready to put together a plan for the symposium that will be happening in june so what kind of things are we looking into what kind of solutions are we looking for and what kind of recommendations do we feel will be coming for government on the back of the uh the findings is it time for farmers and business owners to start coming forward now start being vocal do not fear that in some way this could someone could diddle with your grants or whatever supports you might get from your is it now time for uh those voices to be heard more loudly and in great numbers yes definitely greg because you know the people are around the streets now when when the scheme comes through that people are happy with well then people won't won't be on the streets anymore and farmers will be left out by themselves while people around the streets right now is the time to start shouting and getting your voice heard and ultimately that's what i'm looking for i'm looking for a couple of examples of farmers with um with agricultural buildings that are collapsing businesses that are suffering with mica in their warehouses and if that if those buildings were paid for by EU funding i want to hear hear from them and you know these are the examples all we need is two or three and i know they've been politely standing back and that's okay because homeowners have always been the priority but now's the time to stand up and we are working for you in the background and we we feel that we can get something done right now because MEPs are alike to this issue all right let's name and thanks very much indeed i appreciate it aim and jackson their chair of the mica action group he wants farmers to come forward uh in relation to their properties having mica with a view to going to europe as many of them were built of course with EU grants and the weather the storm brought the the the private homes back into the conversation as well and we were scheduled to check chat aim and on that as well um so there's been a lot on mica this week it's only Tuesday on the program uh why should the taxpayer have to pay for the mica problem should it not be the product supplier and as for farmers i think they get enough handouts regards an angry taxpayer um open my back door three times hearing a dog bog thinking it was outside only to discover the barking is on the radio don't oh yes okay i thought that was some sort of a slight at me or aim and i was i was listening to the dog bark in the background as well and was wondering where that was coming from all right i call it says the only uh quoting aim in there the only place the government is answerable to is the european union no no no no says the assistant the government is answerable to the people hi greg i'm uh almost afraid to ring my doctors now the reception staff interrogate why i'm ringing saying is it urgent how do you define urgent they've no understanding what the patient could be going through and from my experience there are no way sympathetic and very abrupt and that's in that one person's experience another caller says though i'm a doctor's secretary and we never ask anyone that calls what's wrong with them and any secretary that does is being nosy that's between the doctor and the patients but look carolina is the case isn't it that patients have been triaged by by people that the secretary's hospital so that secretary clearly um no no secretaries have been nosy they're being asked by whom the person who employs them to try and put people in order uh so the urgent cases are seen the less urgent cases are seen later so i don't think anyone is taking it on themselves a solo run to to be nosy what's wrong with you uh so it depends from surgery to surgery okay and we understand that um maybe you don't mind do you mind or do you understand because i think obviously understandably those that are most offended might be most inclined to get the phone out and text us and we really appreciate it and it's important and so many issues are highlighted and resolved through your texts and calls but maybe you're out there and you're texting you're calling your gp and you don't mind the secretary asking questions and you understand why that's happening text us that in as well so that we get a full sense of the picture please and people listening feel they're getting a more rounded and balanced uh discussion so if you think you understand that you don't mind it maybe you think it's been an improvement 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keeping track as to who is buying what and how often it's being bought if i have a prescription the pharmacist will have a full list of whatever i got from them and if it can't be monitored then it seems to stop being an over the counter medicine if it's as dangerous as it obviously is being treated then maybe just make it prescription you heard that from freddy yourself now professor of politics at doublin university is professor donahoe bachoyne he joins us on the program now thank you very much for joining us you're welcome it's very good to have you with us right now you lecture on post-soviet politics unrecognized states irish studies and foreign policy so you're right across this professor now we heard a russian president vladimir putin last night ordered the deployment of troops to two breakaway regions in eastern ukraine after recognizing them as independent accelerating a crisis the west fears could unleash a major war professor he called these you know peacekeepers clearly you don't send peacekeepers into attack helicopters and in tanks has the invasion of ukraine then at least on paper already begun well uh yes it has but it's it's really important to emphasize that this is eight years into an invasion and occupation we've been here before in 2014 when when uh vladimir putin right up until the end said that he wasn't going to an ex-crimea and he wasn't going to do anything in donetsk gulahansk and he moved his troops there so in a way we're not in a completely new place this is the the latest chapter in an ongoing saga which goes back as vladimir putin's speech yesterday illustrated goes back decades indeed centuries i mean what we learned from vladimir putin last night is that he has a vision of where russia should be in the world and his borders are ambiguous because his ideal state in the past is essentially the russian empire in terms of borders and the russian empire of course included much of present-day ukraine but also poland and finland and latvia and estonia and so many other countries and this is this is the problem with vladimir putin at the moment is that we don't know what his end game is he keeps us guessing um of course nobody was really looking at donetsk gulahansk everybody was focusing on nato enlargement that was the big thing that he was emphasizing and even now we're not sure what his next step is is that by accidental design do you think oh i think that's that strategic ambiguity is definitely by design i mean like so for example if you take the current situation he says he recognizes the people's republics of donetsk gulahansk but he hasn't defined the territories of those those territories themselves or rather the the people the proxies who are in charge they define it as as the entire region now at the moment they've only got control of about a third of each of those regions of donetsk gulahansk so is he recognizing what they currently hold or is he recognizing what they actually claim if he's recognizing what they claim then we're in for a big war yeah and we got a better indication of his mood hearing directly from uh him yesterday yes he mentioned the two two areas you already mentioned but also really uh you know saying ukraine is is not really a legitimate state so was he flagging his intentions then to to reclaim what he obviously believes is rightfully rushes oh absolutely i mean if you don't recognize a ukrainian people how can a ukrainian people exercise a right to self-determination either politically or geopolitically and that's been at the heart of this you know it's it's ironic that he accuses very tongue-in-cheek ukrainians of genocide against the peoples living in donetsk gulahansk when he himself doesn't even recognize there's a separate ukrainian people he hasn't killed them off in all senses of the word so it's it's no it's it's a pattern of aggression which has been ongoing not of course exclusively at ukraine and as i said it's it's deliberately designed to create a a state of permanent duress on ukraine as a people um ukraine is now the front line really i mean we we i'm certainly old enough to remember the cold war remember the iron curtain uh we remember when the hungarians and the checks and the polls rose up against the kremlin in their time and there was nothing the west could effectively do to help them because they were behind the iron curtain putin is sending a message now saying that ukraine is part of its sphere of influence and and that if the west wants to to take on russia on this issue it's at its pearl because russia really cares about ukraine it's not quite as clear that the west has a similar preoccupation with the future of that country but you know depending on where you read it there seems to be not much of an appetite at least between younger generations amongst younger generations in russia for for this type of of activity of course there is going to be very severe sanctions against russia you know where does this go where does this end then i mean because obviously vladimir putin has to sell this to the russian people as well well he doesn't really he's a dictator so he doesn't okay right okay true yes i understand you know and and and that's that's why he's been so effective against the eu and and nato for example the eu for for all its faults is hyper democratic hyper decentralized it's 27 different nation states who are trying to negotiate common positions and that's why you always get the lowest common denominator whereas the kremlin as a hyper centralized dictatorship can act you know very decisively very quickly and then diplomacy has to scramble to catch up and that's what you're seeing today you're seeing diplomacy now going as we go forward trying to catch up i wouldn't be too optimistic about sanctions because putin has made it clear that he has absorbed the sanctions that are already there since 2014 he has made provision for any sanctions that are intended he's been cozying up as you know to china recently uh and now trying to to sell them gas as an alternative to europe in the in the medium term so he he has thought this through um it is a game like chess indeed and you might be familiar with the work of gary kasparov a grand chess master in his day soviet chess master and he he was often asked about the the similarities between putin and and playing chess and he said well it's it's somewhat different because in chess the rules are predictable but the outcome is uncertain but it's the opposite with putin's russia you know the rules are unpredictable but the outcome is always certain and that's that he will always be in power for as long as he wants to be in russia and that's that that's the i mean you think of it when putin came to power bill clinton was president that's how long ago we're talking about berthier hern was thyshuk in his first term this man has now defined uh his nation uh this generation he's very much looking to cement his legacy as the man who reestablished russia who reestablished russia's place in the world however i think it's really important to contextualize this he russia today is not the soviet union uh russia's economy it's gnp is smaller than that of italy's it's smaller than that of france its population is substantially smaller than nigeria where he gets his strength and we see it very much uh in in in here and now is his willingness to use force um and and to commit troops to areas where as i said the west doesn't consider to be part of their strategic priorities right okay um now a lot of people will get into the ins and outs of it but an awful lot of people too will be and maybe the people you talk of you know of a certain age that remember the cold war remember when we were on the brink because you'll see lots of people post on social media you know uh we're on the brink of a third world war here so people that aren't sort of focusing on the ins and outs of it but just worry about what consequence it might have i mean how could this escalate could it escalate into a bigger war situation even a world war what would be the what do you think are we far more likely maybe then to feel the implications in our pockets in terms of you know the cost of energy and what have you so for your average joe out there and josephine what are the implications or what potentially could be the implications how serious could this get well for irish people if that's what you mean i mean we're talking about yeah probably higher energy bills if this goes into the energy sector which it might do we're not looking at a third world war for the simple reason that uh western powers western powers at least with military resources that have in the past committed those military resources have made it clear they will not send troops to ukraine ukraine is very much on its own here what the ukrainians have tried to do is that they've tried to say that they're much better prepared now than they were in 2014 and that's true they have better weaponry they are better trained and that's why it's unlikely though not it's never impossible you never know what vladimir butin but it's unlikely that putin is envisaging a military takeover of of ukraine because ukraine is more than 40 million people this would be going against every precedent in in in putin's playbook when it comes to war his previous wars chechnya georgia crimea they've always been short winnable and popular at home a full-scale invasion of ukraine would be none of those things it would be costly it would be expensive it would lead to lots of of lives being lost and it would be domestically unpopular even in a dictatorship sometimes you have to please the people in some respects and it would it would be you know it could lead to the end of the regime you know in the in the way that sometimes wars bring down dictatorships as we saw with argentina in 1982 when they tried to retake the falcon so he has a history of not biting off more than he can chew that's why this particular move is is consolidating what he has and there might be modest expansions but i wouldn't expect as i said a full takeover and therefore a full-scale world war just by the way on a point on the world war aspect ukraine used to have nuclear weapons it inherited a huge nuclear stockpile the third largest in the world in the early 1990s and they gave them up in return for security guarantees from russia and the united states the united kingdom so in a way had they kept those nuclear weapons we would be back to that kind of situation where they wouldn't be at war they wouldn't be in a conflict because they wouldn't be attacked and that comes back to that i guess the primacy of of that old cold war maxim that you know if you have nuclear weapons you're very unlikely to be attacked and that's why of course russia is not under the threat as well russia has made a an entire narrative out of being insecure because of nato expansion but no no country and certainly not ukraine is ever going to attack russia well that's an end game if if something like that would happen well that's probably slightly more dramatic but you'll get where i'm coming from i really appreciate your expertise and your time this morning thank you very much not at all great take care bye-bye that's professor donica obakhoin there who is a professor of politics at dublin city university hospital university hospital i'm obsessed at this point hopefully as i said interest in speaking to find out what's going on too but also to get the what i find interested from people who know is like what is the likely outcome so i think what he's saying is that vladimir will consolidate his position in those two eastern sections of ukraine and and that'll that'll be it that he won't go any further than that because you also have to remember there's an information war going on here and this is not sort of conspiracy theory still for what have you but you know no less than russia is feeding its people a narrative and it is it's saying shells are being fired into russia from ukraine and to win over the minds of people to to do the action he isn't have the sport and doing so you can be sure that the same thing is happening here you know what i mean we're getting news with a certain angle and listen maybe it's an absolute coincidence maybe this is a complete not a coincidence but yesterday on social media as it relates to the mica situation there was a massive a massive outpouring of sympathy for mica families because of storm frankling and then randomly just couple of couple of articles appeared in the national papers quoting the government completely separate as far as i could see in a month correction completely separate from the conversation that was happening about how the the turmoil of these families but randomly i come across two articles published yesterday in national papers that were just talking about how great the scheme was and how it was built on really strong 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I want to see leaders on the RIS, IOC members, Silicon Valley friends, ladies and gentlemen, good evening. It is indeed a special privilege and honor for me to be here to welcome Mr. Rahul Gandhi to the US. I want to especially thank him for taking time out from his very busy schedule, not only come to the US but agreed to spend six days with us. He came in this morning at 7 o'clock and we had our first meeting. This is second meeting. We have a major event tomorrow at Stanford University. Then we go to Washington DC where we have series of interactions with press, political leaders, think-tag people, NGOs, business leaders. Then we go to New York where we have a lunch with group of intellectuals. We have another lunch with group of artisans, creative people, cultural people. And then we have a mega event that Mohindarji talked about. So I'm delighted that we are all here together. Indian Overseas Congress is in 32 countries. Beside Middle East, US and Canada happens to be a priority. In Middle East we have a very large number of people from India. Mr. Rahul Gandhi and I went to Middle East a few years ago. We had his program at a cricket stadium and you'll be surprised to learn that 40,000 people came to listen to him. We had 1100 buses lined up. It is a major task whenever we organize an event for him. I get hundreds and hundreds of requests to meet him personally, talk to him, give me photo opportunity. And unfortunately we have not been able to meet all the requests because of the time constraint. But I must say the enthusiasm during this visit is much more than I have ever seen before. Partly because of victory in Karnataka and mainly because of his walk. He walked for 4,000 km, 150 days, 13 states and met thousands and thousands of people. The images that I have seen where 50,000 people walk with him is absolutely mind boggling. I believe this has been a turning point in many ways, not only for our party, for Mr. Rahul Gandhi and for India. We are here and we are visiting other foreign countries because we sincerely believe that Indian democracy is larger global public good. We have 1.4 billion people and our democracy has to be vibrant, alive. People like me worry about the fact that our institutions are captured. Our civil society is not allowed to function more as watchdog and we have lost rational, logical conversation. You see on Indian television what goes on and you wonder what will happen to the next generation of Indians when they come into the workforce. How would they think about the future of India? I worry a lot about what is going on in India. And I am sure many of you feel the same way. And we want to have this broader conversation with large number of people abroad because democracy is going through some strains in many parts of the world. We had in the US 4 years of confusion. We are still not done with it. In other countries like Turkey, even to some extent Mexico, Hungary and I can go on and on with the list where democracy is going through a serious challenge partly because of social media because everybody and his brother has opinion about everything. And everybody is giving you advice on what to do, how to do. Even those who can't find a job has list of advice for the Prime Minister of the country. And I must give you this little example. Allow me to take a minute. You know in Rajiv Gandhi era I had gone to Madhya Pradesh and Jairam Ramesh was with me and we were at the airport. And some young man was staring at me. I saw him in a crowd. Same young man came to Chief Minister's house outside. Same young man came to Governor's house and while we were leaving Bhopal, he was at the airport. So I told Jairam, I said Jairam get that guy. I want to talk to him. So I called him. He came to me and I said you have been staring at me everywhere. What's the problem? So he said sir I'm so happy that you spotted me. He said I have this letter in which I have listed everything that Rajiv Gandhi should do. I said that's interesting. He said what is it? He said I have outlined a complete plan for the nation. And if Rajiv Gandhi would just follow this he will be Prime Minister for 15 years. So I said that's very interesting. What do you do? He said I'm looking for a job. Only in India you find people and he had the guts. And he sincerely believed that he knows how to solve Prime Minister's problem but he can't get a job. Today in India job is a major situation, major crisis. We are not creating the kind of jobs we need to create. Tomorrow we have a plan to visit a group of experts through Sean to discuss AI. On one hand new technology is going to eliminate jobs. On the other hand we need lot many more jobs. So our challenges are very special. And we need young minds like Rahul to lead the country. We need someone with open mind. We need someone who has broader exposure, global experience. And that's the reason we are all here meeting and interacting with large number of people. I want to thank all of you for taking time from your busy schedule to come and meet with us. I know that the road ahead is pretty complicated. It's not that simple. Because in people's mind in India something has just come in which is hard to get rid of. That India belongs only to Hindu's idea of India. Our idea of India is very different. I was born in a small little tribal village in Orissa during British Raj.  On left was Jain. On right was Sardarji. And the back was tribal Oria. And we all lived together like family. No one ever thought that this fellow is Muslim and that fellow is Sikh. They were all uncles and cousins. We all played together. That idea of India is being threatened. And to me that is the core idea of India. Diversity, inclusion, truth, trust, love. All of these ideas are being challenged. And it hurts. At my age it really hurts, believe me. Because I felt when I will get old the dream that we all had as little children of India will be a reality. We have made a lot of progress in the last 75 years in technology. The fact that many of you are here including me is because India gave us the education at very low cost. The credit goes to our founding father Pandit Nehru and others who had the vision to build IITs, IIMs, laboratories, space programs, atomic energy. And Rajiv Gandhi gave push to IIT and telecom. I had a chance to work with him and I will never forget the fact that he gave meaning to my life. My life had no meaning except being an engineer. He had the political will not only to give meaning to my own life but create jobs for millions and millions of us. And then when Prime Minister Modi says that nothing got done for 70 years it hurts. But that's okay because I am used to listening to lies for last many years. So I have nothing against individual. My problem is the very core idea of India that I grew up with is being challenged. With this I want to invite great son of India. I want to invite a young leader to tell us little bit about his journey for 4000 km. I want you to learn little bit about how he could do it. What did it meant to him and then tell us little bit about what keeps him going. What keeps him awake at night and what is his view of the world and India going forward. Thank you. Mr. Sam Pitroda, Mohinder Singh Ji, Saab Bullar Ji, Sandeep Fogela Ji, Gurpreet Ji, Shan Sankaran Ji, Madhu Iragu Ji, brothers and sisters, friends. I don't see the children who sang but where are they? I'd like to welcome all of you and thank all of you for coming here. And also thank the wonderful children for the song they sang. It was sung very movingly and very well. Some months ago we started a walk from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. Prior to walking we were finding that the normal tools that we used to use for politics, conversations like this, public meetings, were simply not working anymore. All the instruments that we needed to do politics in India, they were controlled by the PJP and the RSS. People are threatened, this is important people, agencies are used on people. So we also are finding that in some way it had become quite difficult to act politically. And that's why we decided to walk from the southernmost tip of India to Srinagar. And when we started I thought okay, we'll see what happens. After five or six days we realized that actually walking four thousand kilometers is not an easy thing. And I had an old knee injury that started to act up. So I said now I'm in real trouble because there's no choice, one has to walk and I'm having quite a lot of pain. Then quite a surprising thing happened. I started noticing that after walking 25 kilometers, 25 kilometers is more than half a marathon. So after walking three weeks, every day 25 kilometers, I suddenly realized one afternoon that it's strange but I'm not feeling tired at all. I get up in the morning, six o'clock we used to start and we used to end walking at about 7.38 in the evening and I was like this is very strange, I'm not feeling tired at all, what is this? And then I started asking people around that everybody is saying to me I'm not feeling tired. It's very strange, we're not feeling tired, so I started to think about it and I realized that actually what was going on was that it was not us that was walking. It was India that was walking with us, right? And the large mass of people who were coming, all religions, all communities, everybody, kids, they were creating an atmosphere of love and affection where nobody was feeling tired. Almost as if everybody was walking together, everybody was walking together and nobody was feeling tired, they were helping each other. And that's where we came up with the idea, we opened a shop of love in the market of hatred. Welcome, welcome. In the market of hatred, there is a shop of love, 12 pairs, see the interesting thing about us, about the Congress party is we have affection towards everybody. Someone wants to, if someone wants to come, if someone wants to come and say something regardless of what they're saying, we're happy to listen to it, we're not going to get angry, we're not going to get aggressive, we'll nicely listen to it. In fact, we'll be affectionate to them, we'll be loving to them because that's our nature. So we found that when everybody started walking together, completely different type of energy started coming. And I noticed that the government tried everything. That means whatever power they had, they started stopping the journey. They took it off, used it to the police, but nothing was working. And the effect of the journey was increasing. Why did this happen? Because you all helped us. Not only in India, not only in India, Bharat Jodo is an idea that is in all your hearts. And it is about respecting each other and being affectionate to each other. It is about not being violent towards each other, not being arrogant. I can see my Sikh brothers here.  That be humble, be affectionate, and we walked nothing compared to Guru Nanak Ji. I read somewhere that Guru Nanak Ji had gone all the way to Mecca, Saudi Arabia. He had gone to Thailand. He had gone to Sri Lanka. So these giants were doing Bharat Jodo much before we were born. And I can say the same. I can say the same for my friends from Karnataka, Basavana Ji, my friends from Kerala, Narayana Guru Ji. So every state in India has had these giants, Adi Shankaracharya, and every single one of them said, listen to each other, be respectful, not just of your own religion, not just of your own language, not just of your own culture, be respectful for all cultures, all religions, all languages, because they are in fact the same. And the assault that is taking place in India, it's taking place on our way of life. Sam Pitrodha Ji said that he grew up with all people living happily, different languages, different religions, and that is what is being attacked. So the tradition in India, and again something leaders like Guru Nanak Ji, Basavana Ji, Gandhi Ji emphasized, was not to be under the impression that you know everything, that the world is too big, too complicated for any one person to think that he understands everything and he knows everything. And so really that is the disease that Sam sort of outlined. That is the disease that we have a group of people in India who are absolutely convinced that they know everything. In fact, I think they think maybe they know even more than God. They could sit down with God and have a conversation and explain to him about what is going on. And of course our Prime Minister is one such specimen. I think if you sat Modi Ji down next to God, Modi Ji would start explaining to God how the universe works.  So these are funny things but really this is what is going on. We have a group of people who understand everything. They can speak to scientists and explain science to them. They can speak to historians and explain history to them. They can explain warfare to the army, flying to the Air Force, whatever they want they can, you know. And at the heart of it is mediocrity. That they actually don't understand anything. Because in life you cannot understand anything if you are not ready to listen. There is something, the biggest lesson I learned from Bharacholayatra that there is something to learn from everybody. We are much older than those children. But I can guarantee you they can teach us all how to sing. I was looking at them and I was saying I can't sing like that. It's impossible. So when you look at another person, you have to appreciate that they have an experience, they have a life, they have seen things and maybe you can learn a lot from them. Maybe if you open your ears you can listen to them and learn from them. And that is actually the Indian tradition. If you look at our country, you will find that our country has the ability to absorb any idea that comes. India has never rejected any idea. Everybody who has come to India has been received with open arms and their ideas have been absorbed in India. And that is the India that we like. India that respects the rest of the world. India that is humble. India that listens. India that is affectionate. And that is the India that you represent. You would not be here if you did not agree with these values. If you believed in anger, hatred, arrogance, you would be sitting in a BJP meeting. And I would be doing monkey bath. So thank you very much for holding up the Indian flag in America, showing the American people what it means to be Indian, respecting them, respecting their culture, learning from them and also allowing them to learn from you. You make us all proud and we think of our country.  When America says Indian people are extremely intelligent, Indian people are masters of IT, Indian people are respectful.  So I thank you very much for that. I came here this morning. Sam organized the flight. I arrived 16 hours after 16 hours flying 6.30 in the morning. I thought I'd be tired, but I'm not tired at all because of the energy that you have given me. Thank you. Love you, love you. Now they've asked me to answer your questions. See that few questions. That also would not happen in a BJP meeting. Yes. No questions there. Only answers. Thank you. Thanks, everyone. Could you please sit down? Thank you. Thank you. So we have many organizations which support it. Four or five questions. Yes, sir. Quick. Or opinions. Whatever. We can ask people questions. They automatically assume opinions. Yes. So we have women who played major contribution for this program to be successful. We have women empowerment organization which helped us to make this event successful. So they have a question specific to women and I would request Ms. Chanseer Reddy to ask that question. Welcome, Raul G. For California. As a women empowerment association, my name is Chanseer Reddy. So I would like to ask you two questions regarding this women bill that has been, you know, in the court for almost more than half a century. So when the Congress comes in power, the women's reservation rights. So that bill has been there for more than a quarter century. So as a Congress leader, what is your thoughts on it and how are you going to deal with it? That's of my first question. The second question is, you know, in India, it's very hard for women for the safety issue. So what are we going to, you know, offer our next generation of the girls in India? Thank you. So on the women's reservation bill, we are committed to that. We wanted to pass it in the last government, but some of our allies were not too happy with it and they didn't give us the support for that bill. But I'm confident when we come to power, we'll pass that bill. I think part of the answer to your second question lies in the first question. If we empower women, if we involve women in the political system, if we give women space in the governance of the country, if we give women space in the businesses of the country, we will automatically make them safer. So I think involving them in politics, involving them in business, involving them in running the country are the way to give them power. Thank you. Thank you. So we have another Tamil community organization, so who united entire Tamil organizations and they have expressed their support. So they might differ on the congress party, but they have come here for the love of Rahul Gandhi today. So I would like to invite Mr. Pughal if you are here. Yeah. Thank you, Sandeep. Hello, Rahul Ji. My name is Pughal Anbu. I'm the president of Indo-American Society for Science, Reason and Freethought. I also represent Tamuls who live in Bay Area. On behalf of our people and on behalf of people who believe in science, reason and free thought, I would like to point out we are honored, humble, and most truly proud of your journey about opening up the shops of love on the streets of hate all over the India. Tamuls have long tradition of harboring brotherhood mindset throughout their civilization. 3,000 years ago, our forefather said, Yadumure Yawarum Kelir, Perapukkum Yalla Weerkum, translation, all human beings are created equal and every town is our town, everybody is our relative. To us, India is like European Union. With each state having its own language, its own tradition, its own festivals, its own cuisine, dress code, way of living, etc. They are all different, yet we live under one country called India. Therefore, it is deeply saddening to us when someone from the union government trying to impose one language, one culture, one tradition, one religion, one school, etc. Recognizing this diversity to make it a robust country, our billboard leader, the Dravidian icon, former chief minister, Dr. Siananathurai, proclaimed both in parliament and in public forums for Manila Tilsvachi, Mathil Kootachi, which means autonomous rule at the state level and federal rule at the union level. Dear Raghulji, you have studied in America and you have traveled within United States extensively and you know much better than anyone else in this room that America is the best example of federalism. Each state has its own constitution, its own supreme court, apart from federal laws. Whereas in India, Congress Party did have its own share of problems in the past, but the time itself changed. The new thinking has emerged and you are the epitome of the new thinking.  Therefore, my question to you is that, like United States of America, what's your thought on making India as a true United States of India? Thank you, Jig. If you read our constitution, the definition of India in the constitution is a union of states. And within our constitution is the idea that the languages, cultures, histories of each one of our states has to be protected under the union. So what you're talking about is already incorporated in our constitution. It's already there. The BJP and the RSS are attacking that idea that you mentioned and also the constitution of India. That's the fact. Now, for me personally, I understand that the Tamil language is more than a language to Tamil people. It is not just a language. It is their history. It is their culture. It is their way of life. And I will never ever allow Tamil language to be threatened. Right? Because for me, threatening the Tamil language is to threaten the idea of India. Just like threatening Bengali or threatening Kannada or threatening Hindi or threatening Punjabi are all attacks on India. Right? So our strength, unlike many other countries, our strength comes from our diversity. Our strength comes from accepting that we are all different but we can work together. And that is an idea that I am sure you and the Congress Party are protecting. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Put your questions brief, respecting everyone's time. I know you have opinions, but please put your questions brief. Next question is Mr. Kartik from Ambedkar King Study Circle. Yes, yes, please appreciate these organizations have put together this amazing event. First of all, there are Telugu, Tamil, Karela, Kannada, all of them together to make even successful respect those organizations. Thank you. We'll do, we'll do. We've got five questions, don't worry. There's more than enough. We can add a few also if you want. Hello, Rahulji. I'm Ganapati from the Ambedkar King Study Circle. First of all, welcome to San Francisco Bay Area. We wholeheartedly thank you for taking up the fight against the fascism. So this rise of fascism is not a mere coincidence. So we believe in the social and the economic equality in the society, and the inequality actually creates a conducive environment for fascism to emerge. So my question is like, what is the plan of the Indian National Congress to approve the economic and the social inequality which creates this condition for fascism in the Indian subcontinent and also at the global level? One of the things that we are suggesting is when we were in government, we had carried out a caste census. And the idea behind the caste census was to take an x-ray of Indian society to find out what are the exact demographics of our country? What are the different communities? What are the different castes? How many people in each community? How many people in each caste? Because without understanding our demographics and without understanding who is who, it is very difficult to distribute wealth, distribute power effectively. So that was one idea that we had and we've been putting pressure on the BJP to release the caste census, the numbers in the caste census. They are, of course, not doing it. And we'll continue to apply pressure and if we come to power, we will do that. But we are committed as the Congress Party to make India a fair place. And we understand deeply that India today, in terms of its treatment of Dalits, tribals, poor people, minorities, is not a fair place. And there's many, many things that can be done. There is the Niai scheme that we had which is aimed at providing a minimum income to all Indians. There are ideas like Manrega. I think an increase in public education, increase in public health care, I think these are all things that can be done to make India a much more equal and fair place. Thank you. Thank you. We have our next question from Silicon Valley Christian Community. Mr. Jay. Now the parliament, lots of our seats are increasing to 888. What's your take on it? There's a proposal that, you know, Moriji is actually working on. It is going to entirely be based on population. It is going to tilt, you know, the orientation towards the highly populous states, getting more and more land share revenues and everything. So how is it going to change everything? You know, minorities are going to get even more depressed.  So what's your take on it? I'd have to look at exactly how they're thinking about doing it. But I think one has to be very, very careful when one changes the representative structure of a country. So I'd be quite interested in understanding exactly how they've come up with the number 800 and what are the criteria that they're using. These things should not be done flippantly. India is a conversation. India is a negotiation between its languages, between its people, between its histories and cultures. And that negotiation has to be fair. Meaning all parts of India, all the states of India should feel that there is fairness in the process of negotiation. If I see exactly how they're coming up with 800 and what is the design, then I would be able to answer whether I agree with the number 800, but I haven't seen the way they're calculating it. Yeah, but it depends how the ratios change. Yeah, it is currently based on the population, but you'll have to see how the ratios change. I think the parliament house, these are distractions. The real issues in India are unemployment, price rise, spread of anger and hatred, a crumbling education system, price of education, price of health care. These are the real issues. BJP can't really discuss them, so then they have to do the whole skeptic thing. They're lying down and doing all that. Aren't you happy I'm not lying down? Thank you, thank you. One more question from... One more question. One more question. One more question. So this is from the Bay Area Muslim community. One question from the Bay Area Muslim community. This is Mr. Mohammad Khan. Please, go ahead. Rahul ji, thank you so much for coming all the way here. I think this is something which we were starving for, as Muslims from the Bay Area. We all want to thank you for your time and for your efforts in coming all the way here. As you know that Muslims have the security threat today. It was never before. The way we see today, whenever we call and talk to anybody, it's like, what's going on? There are so many different laws which are getting implemented, which were not even implemented earlier. If it is just of the security, it's okay. But then if it goes on and on, Muslims are putting in the jails. For the crime suite, they have not committed. What strategy will you adopt? Or what hope are you giving to Indian Muslims? Which is going to change the whole thing back to the point where we were and get back to the normal stream to develop India? The best way for me to explain that is the line, that is the best way I can say it, which is that it is felt most strongly by the Muslim community, because it is done most directly to them.  I can guarantee you that the same way you're feeling attacked, I can guarantee you my Sikh brothers are feeling the same thing. I can guarantee you my Christian brothers are feeling the same, and sisters are feeling the same thing. I can guarantee you the Dalit community is feeling the same thing. Tribal community is feeling the same thing. In fact, anybody who is poor in India today, when he looks at the extreme wealth that a limited number of people have, in some way he feels the same thing that you feel, that what is going on? How is it that these five people have lakhs of crores and I have nothing to eat?  But it is a phenomena that is taking place against everybody in India. And you cannot cut hatred with hatred. It's impossible. You know that. You can only cut hatred with love and affection. And I was surprised at how easy it was to erase hatred in India. I was shocked. I didn't imagine that it would be so effective I didn't imagine it. Indian people, as you yourself have said, they don't believe in this stuff. They don't believe in hating each other. They don't believe in killing each other. This is a small group of people who have got control of the system, who have got control of the media and who are fully supported by big money. But this is not the large mass of Indian people. I can guarantee you, I walked from Kanyakumari to Kashmir. I can guarantee you there are more people who believe in love and affection than hatred. Millions and millions more. So don't be pessimistic. Also I'd like to point out another thing. This happens periodically in India. What is happening, for example, to the Muslim community in India today? Happened to the Dalit community in the 80s. If you went to UP in the 80s, the Dalit community, what is happening with the Muslims was happening with the Dalit there. So periodically this type of stuff happens and we have to challenge it. We have to fight it. And we have to fight it with affection, not fight it with hatred. We will do that. Thank you Rahul Ji. One last question from the most important community of the entire world, that is students. So we have one interesting student from UC Berkeley who wants to literally begging me to ask one last question. She promised that she would conclude it. Welcome Rahul Sir. And thank you so much for your win in Karnataka. You've made a lot of people very, very happy. We've literally cried tears of joy. So thank you. So my question for you would be we have a lot of students who helped out here today. We really feel passionately for your cause, which is our cause now. But what would you say to us? We want to go back to India. We want to represent our country. But we see how the athletes, the youth, the wrestlers in recent times are being treated. It's very undignified. We feel very discouraged. So what would you say to us to kind of bring the sense of wanting to go back out there for our country? Please realize that there's a huge distortion. India is not what the media shows. The media likes to show a particular narrative. It likes to promote a particular narrative. That is actually not what is going on in India. It was very clear to me in the Yatra. It's in the media's interest to project these things. It helps the BJP. So don't think that everything you see in the media is the truth. And as a young person, your country needs you. And your skills and your energy will be very useful to your country. So if you feel like going back, do go back and help out. Thank you. Thank you, Rahul Ji. Thank you. I picked up Rahul Ji somewhere in the morning at 8 o'clock. It's 8 o'clock. So please, one minute. Let me conclude it. He's a normal human being like us. He's not super human. He's a normal human being. Please, one minute. Let me thank the audience. So last question, I like the question, which is what do I suggest that you do? Right?  You believe in humility. You believe in respect. You believe in being affectionate to each other. So do not answer anger and hatred with love and affection. Show them that you're not like them. You should support the ideas that will defeat the BJP. Thank you very much. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Now, please return to your seats. We're going to have national anthem. National anthem, please return to your seat. Please return to your seats. We have Indian national anthem. Please stand up. Return to your seats. Stand up. Can you please? Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. I would like to just... No. So please, guys... Secure. Okay. Everyone. No. Can you... Secure. Secure. Okay. Avalji. No. If you don't mind. Yes.


hey guys welcome to my channel please put a like and subscribe if you are new also go over to my other channel moon pie tarot where you can get daily collective reading my readings always start on the 30 minute mark you can come in earlier if you want to wait chat with everyone but they always start the 30 minute mark so just pop in the reading will begin all right let's get into your reading hey you guys this is Kelly from House of Virgo I am back momentarily try to give you guys a message here just pop it in hope you're all doing well happy holidays happy Thanksgiving thank you for all your patience so let's just dive right into your reading and see what's coming up here let's take a look at the overall messages of course I got a call right when I started all right so you've got palm trees stability security permanence growth endurance and flexibility okay so someone might live in an area where there's a lot of palm trees maybe you're gonna decorate palm trees for Christmas let's see what else do you have coming up here for you you've got keys on a ring many options decision unconventional string along 1-8 stand okay so you're definitely starting off with some options here looks like being very flexible keeping your options open that's the message that I'm getting right now as far as your relationships love your plans your schedule keep things very open listen you guys can follow me on Facebook and Twitter so I'm much more active on that now that I am not able because you know I could do that anywhere but to be here in my studio to get a reading out for you follow me over there because I'm uploading and I'm putting like messages intuitive messages and stuff like that the link is in my link tree it should be under my profile picture here on my channel it's also in the description box so to keep up with me and to keep up with everything going on yeah definitely do that oh you also have twin flames showing up here yin and yang zen balance union duality coupling compliment each other okay so Virgo you're definitely in this position I feel the energy playing out for like through November of course into December is there's a twin flame thing here there is someone that I don't know if they're coming into your life they've already been in your life there is a connection though you must know are you recognize someone is a twin flame to you but you might not be totally sure about that so keeping your options open just in case you're I don't know if you're doubting yourself or maybe there's a karmic kind of thing and it feels like a twin that kind of energy playing out let me see what else is going on here but I do feel like going through like from the time you're listening to this through the month of December there's a there's this kind of thing like okay right my twin flame thing I think it's my twin it's been difficult there's a struggle I don't know what's going on or maybe they're not my twin there's something a little bit of doubt here I feel like you're like that's your energy I'm picking up you're not sure because some you might feel like someone stringing you along this like a particular person you're trying to be flexible and open with this but at the same time it's like is this my twin is this my twin flame is this the into my yang is this you know is this person like do we compliment each other but are we meant to come together or what am I dealing with here like I feel like that's your I don't know there's something here okay so you've got distance so you and your partner maybe physically or emotionally distant so this person in you there's some type of like gap between you for sure okay and this is I feel like right now this is just a qualifier I don't feel like this energy is you know could be playing out where you just get more into this okay well yeah this is my twin flame but we're really far apart and there's a lot of obstacles between us and should I you know should I move on there's your question here move on someone is unavailable waste of time or it's over or you know should you wait that's what I kind of feel like because if you know I don't feel like Virgo you would do you would wait just for anybody I feel like if you feel like this is your twin flame then in your heart and in your mind this is the person that you know that you don't want to move on from okay because that's too that's too real for you but at the same time Virgo it's like if you're if you and this person are truly twin flames doesn't matter if you move on because I think you guys will eventually catch up with each other you meant to be together do you know what I mean like if you've met your twin flame but I feel like you have some doubts about that okay you've got love a spell my gosh so you're a little bit you might have some limerence in regards to this person or feel like you're under a spell okay let me see what's going on with this person oh wow two cars just flipped out okay this person's got manifest telling the universe exactly what they want and they also have pets getting a new pet giving a current pet more love oh now it's the puppy dog scenario somebody's coming in to give you a puppy um there might be a nickname that this person calls you pet I'm picking up um or you guys have pets together I are they manifesting pets they might okay so that could be very symbolic as well that they could be trying to manifest a new pet like love like a new lover in their life or giving you more love okay so I feel like this person's I don't know they're a little conflicted let me see what I'll say how oh okay so you've got narcissists and liar I was really hoping this card wasn't gonna come out someone is too full of themselves be careful of someone sneaky okay so there's a little bit of like oh shit when we're dealing with here yeah Virgo okay they might be a little bit sneaky is this Virgo is this your like what's this is why you're hesitant because you must have some kind of intuition you must be like I don't know if this is my twin flame this could be a karmic karmic twin this might not be who I'm you might be placing a label on this person sinking that it really is but if it's twin flame I don't feel like if this person is good for you I don't feel like there would be this narcissist lying being sneaky kind of energy let me see what else is showing up here for this person I know Virgo something's holding I knew it I was gonna say something's holding you back and I feel like you need to let go of this person make room for the new beginning on its way to you now so whoever you're kind of conf whoever you're conflicted about Virgo if you're still conflicted about someone I know some of you are not and you've already packed your bags and left and that's fun but if you're still conflicted about someone you might need to let this just get your hands off of it right now like still because when I feel like when the right person comes in they'll never leave you with any doubt about if anybody leaves you with any doubt if any at all that that's something I feel like you have to pay attention to within yourself right like a lot of time I feel like Virgo you might feel a sense of doubt and then blame yourself and say oh I'm just not trusting myself because you know I've had this happen I've had that happen and while those things may be true in your past energy doesn't lie when you first connect with someone so you know that there's no way they're gonna trigger some inner things when you first meet someone so if you think back to when you first met this person where you're conflicted what was the energy that you felt from this person energy does not lie behavior does not lie that's what you have to pay attention to because as time goes by your brain is going to try to rationalize things the more you get attached and you're feeling she might need to take a cold hard look at the very beginning of this connection to decide for yourself right and that's the point where you have I feel like getting yourself to where you let go just kind of get let things settle let things settle and just find a place to peace so you can think about the very beginning what was off in the very beginning with this person if you have doubt if you don't have any doubt and then there's just this you already know this person is like masquerading as an as a twin flame like a karmic then you know you do what you have to do and let me just take a look and see your energy Virgo okay so there's a king of ones showing up here Sagittarius Leo or Aries that person that could be the person that you are kind of like who not sure about this person that they might be a little bit you know narky sneaky a liar let's say okay ace ones oh also get the king of sorts so Gemini Libra Aquarius so if you've got two different people in your life that there's potential with I feel like there's a fire sign who just causes a lot of struggle and leaves you hold on leaves you like out in the cold there's a fire sign that there's what there's there's like this okay great potential here but two people but the fire sign looks kind of lost and very maybe financially insecure they like poverty mindset like that's kind of poverty mindset is like the reason why they run so much and they do so much is because they have like this they've been they've been in a really bad kind of energy before so they're kind of they're not settled the king of ones masculine or feminine is not settled at all that person is not settled now there's a king of swords showing up here who I feel like is apathetic towards love they're that you know they're kind of like might pop in now and then for a surprise say hello try to give some love but this person again it's like an ace of cups ace ace ace all this potential but nothing goes anywhere so it's either you're dealing with both or one or the other okay and I feel like for you these are almost like two dead-end scenarios here for you you might need to let go of two people one in your heart one in your head advice versa or just one I feel like it's free yourself at this time that's really oh my god I can't believe it right when I was shuffling yeah let go and free yourself that's why you're keeping your options open and you have to okay so you may come to a crossroad there might be a king of cups who is a possible or potential partner and that's a water sign cancer scorpio Pisces but that seems to be like a situation here where it's like do I or don't I okay that's kind of like the two of wands is like a decision this is like a scenario where someone's kind of like alright I'm at the crossroads should I go should I go with this new person because I feel like they might be showing up for you whether new or it's just somebody else showing up here and yeah it's like oh wow they come with a lot of love they also come with some grief so this person very moody I feel like they're gonna be showing up yeah for sure they have potential for great love and partnership but there's also they have a lot of sadness or regret or remorse attached to them so I do feel like they're gonna be showing up yeah and from now in through December okay so I don't know Virgo kind of feel like you got a lot of players showing up here on the stage and it looks like you you might be dating or just kind of keeping your options open like I said even now and just trying to sort through or will be trying to sort through who is going to be a better fit for you kind of looks like there might be a king of cups who's the best fit for you coming in because they come with that love I feel like the other two not so much you know they're kind of I don't know you don't have good cards around them that's really just what I feel this king cups comes in with the knight of cups so that's you know romantic love and offer sweet affection taking some action emotionally you know let's take a look at your Chinese signs here see what you are I'm gonna take a look at you and see what your Chinese sign is okay you've got year of the ox year of the goat you are this person you're this new person year of the horse year of the snake year of the dog year of the pig year of the rabbit and one more you got a goat again okay so double goat get double ox and the dragon okay yeah so that could be you that could be your person okay let's get a couple of mempai messages here all right new plans are evolving and you had the two and ones there so that's that's new plans coming about and having to make a decision or make a choice okay so something's definitely showing up here change of plans plot twist happening here and going through the the rest of november into december let's take a look okay so this is strength this card here is telling you that you can do this with these new plans you have the courage and strength to withstand any situations start by soothing the beast but go with kindness fight back Virgo by not fighting pull your courage up from the ground and hold steady because you're a winner okay so don't get into a defeatist mindset new plans are going to come about things are going to start happening here with somebody new i feel or there's a potential for a love connection with someone while um you're kind of caught maybe about one person trying to figure out who they are what the deal is with them or about two people okay so you do have spying online here so not exactly i do okay so you've got the death card so i do feel like i'm gonna tell you this you end something with someone or there's just something not working out with someone that person is going to be like definitely spying on you let me see if we can figure out who's going to be spying on Virgo a gemini okay there's a gemini who's definitely going to be keeping their eyes on you that's interesting okay i don't know i mean it's online so don't think you have to worry about anything just do yourself a favor and um disable your location services especially if you're on social media you don't want someone doing some weird weird s weird s okay let's get some let's see we've got all right so december most of this is going to play out in december i just say no so keep your eyes peeled um we've got the letter v letter h letter f and we have a q someone is 46 years of age see okay all right i just saw lgbtq so someone might be part of that no g here but it's close we've got someone who's age 49 okay and i'm gonna get a couple charms sorry it's a little short but i can't really feel my voice is starting to go and i'm trying not to talk which is why it's actually come back i don't know thank you for all you guys seriously for all of your um kind sweet comments there must be something going around i don't even know um i just woke up saturday morning i was like couldn't talk so hopefully it will resolve this week fully all right so vergo yeah you guys go follow me on twitter and also on facebook um if you want to keep up with me i'm posting over there and um you know just predictions i'm typing them out for the general signs and i'll be doing a lot of stuff on there until i'm just trying to keep active but without talking and also my community tab okay so you've got the horseshoe so look at that this is a very lucky time for you right now vergo i feel like you're gonna come into some awesome luck no matter what you do lucky horseshoe maybe you're gonna be play placing some bets um or some gambling on some horses or doing some lottery stuff it's just good luck this is good luck um so whatever you're you got going i also am seeing a magnet as well they just showed me a magnet i feel like someone is very magnetized towards you and will be especially going forward um and that's gonna start they're gonna start showing their face in um between now and december so keep your eyes peeled for that but yeah this is a very lucky time for you so if you're gonna do any kind of like buying lottery tickets or um anything you do i feel or you might find some really great deals it's just every everything's gonna be really in your favor that's what i feel from now and through december okay so do keep that in the back of your mind um as i'm leaving you this message as far as love i feel like you're gonna be lucky and love too during this time period um but i feel like you kind of just have to let go a little bit of there's some confusion here of one or two other people okay so i'm gonna leave that there and i'm going to allow this video to play out for an extra 10 minutes with just music so you guys can just kind of catch up and chit chat if you would like um to just catch up with each other in the chat um because i know i haven't been here and a video is kind of short so if you want to stay and just keep going let the chat we'll keep going live chat the live stream if you want to stay and chit chat with everybody i do whatever i probably won't be back before thanksgiving which is on the 20 this thursday um so i will wish you all a very happy thanksgiving go follow me on my socials and then um i can interact with you guys there and um yeah that's it for you guys i hope everybody is safe i hope you stay well i hope you enjoy the time with your family if you're celebrating and um that's it i love you guys thank you for all your patience and all your kind words and i'll see you back here very soon all right take care