Hey everybody, Matt here for Layton Sports Cards, ripping our Sunday Funday NFL 30 box flawless immaculate honors high-end football mixer random teams. Here's one more look at the results from the random. They are alphabetized now make it easier for you to find your name. All right let's do this and I do have the six boxes of fanatics helmets to my left here. Let's start off with some prism no huddle. One of one's over under two and a half. I'm going over heat warner that is Giants Rookie Otto, Cadarius Tony. There you go Giants that is Rookie Matt Jones and Damien Harris blue 79. I will do a hit recap at the end of this so if you're watching or if you I don't know it's getting late for some of you can't watch the whole thing you'll be able to catch a recap in the morning or you can go back and watch the whole thing there's Jake Funk, Brock Lesnar, you're good, Tom Brady, Elijah Moore and Vonta Smith fireworks. We got first no huddle yep no huddle yep Joey Bosa. I like to mix it up just a little bit too. I don't like doing just like a whole lot of high card count stuff and then all the quick rips for the end. I like to kind of mix it up a little bit Jalen Darden, Damien Harris Purple to 35. Yeah it's a 2017 Immaculate Football Box.  Rookie Variation Disco nice one Niners. You go San Francisco, Elijah Mulden and Rookie Blue to 79. Travis E.T.N. Jr. Nice card Jags. Dez Fitzpatrick hang on there we go Dez Fitzpatrick Felipe Franks Rookie Disco Racing with Math and Montez Sweat Green to five. That's low numbered Montez Sweat for Washington. We had Purple Sweat the other night now we have Green Sweat. It's getting worse. Hi Amy Brown. Kim Davis gather. That is your boy some Vick. Vick loves pulling Felipe Franks. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Siobhan Holland Tyreek. Jamar Chase Rookie. You go Bengals, Melvin Gordon, Pylon Hill, Jalen Waddle Emergent, Ron Dale Moore, Aaron Donald, Fonty Rice and Blue Julio. What do you think about him on the box man? I mean as a third or fourth option having Julio Jones even the shell of his former self is scary. Yeah Joe Burrow saving Collins and Gary Brightwell Rookie Red. Really scary. Newsom that's Justin Jefferson fireworks. I think he's a big bucks guy now. He didn't still hate me. Yeah. I kind of agree with that. That's a hot take that I agree with. That's tough. As long as you acknowledge that TJ Hushman's auto was better than either of them in his prime. That is Seahawks, Rookie Disco Auto, Sam's Boy, Dwayne Eskridge. Nice. Grige. Go Seattle. Yeah, AB did. Tyus Bowser Red, Dwayne Eskridge, AJ Brown all out. Speaking of Hushman's auto, there's the goat right there. Christian Barmore, Tarris Marshall Jr. Rookie Emergent Disco Insert. Why was TJ Hushman's auto brought up? They were just saying in the chat how he was better than. There's Tre Lantz Rookie. How he was better than AB or Julio in his prime. Jalen Smith. I think some Victor was saying that. Yeah. Yeah. You might have to scroll to find that comment. Gotcha. He's scrolling all night. So Elijah Mitchell and LaVisca Chanel Jr. Blue. It's Najee Harris, Rookie. And Javante Williams, Rookie Disco. Deuce. Stante Fowler. Dio. Eddie Inbo. Thanks, now. There you go. That's a Colts Rookie Disco. That's a Tyree Kill Purple to 35. I think we'll do a box of Chronicles after this. JC Horne, Patrick Queen. Don't forget we are launching an LSE baseball channel coming soon. Darby, Adrian Anos. Tutu, there's Justin Fields. New recruit, Rookie Disco Insert. Nick Bosa. Rookie, Justin Fields. And Tyree Kill Blue. Very bright well. Racy McMath, Rookie Blue. Nice Titan's color match. Rookie, Travis Etn Jr. Deandre Swift. Let's change a pace here with some 21 Chronicles. Almost everything up here. This is my first time ripping it this year. Oh, that's true. Yeah.  But this is Titans. Totally certified auto. Jayon Brown. You can go Tennessee. Fonte. Kyle Pitts. Acetate. Playoff. Ian Book. Chubahub. Kyle Pitts. Kyler, 399. Jalen Mottel. Eskridge. Yeah, I hope so. It's Invicta. That's Rondale Moore. Dynagon. Mack Jones. Luminance. Najee. And Rondale Moore. Dynagon. 75. There's Kadarius Tony. Rookie, Prism Black. Najee. Was it you that said that Dynagon's like a breaking specific term? Yes. Sean Slater. Oh, wait, did I do something? There's 2199. Jamar Chase. I actually think maybe I did rip some Chronicles. There's Kyle Pitts. Rookie, Prism Black. A-Rod. Magnitude. Hybrid or something? No. Hybrid is regular? I don't think. I don't know. This is Jags. Rookie, Jersey. It's 199. Trevor Lawrence. Jalen Mottel. Sir Tan. Trey Lance. Rookie. Trevor Lawrence. Rookie, Dynagon. And Michael Carter. This is Dolphins. Gridiron Kings. Rookie Auto to 75. Jalen Waddle. Hey, what's up, Peter? Yeah, thank you. Happy to be back. Nice one, Dolphins. I'll tell you, there's Davis Mills. Rookie to 199. Najee Moore. See, how about a box of 18 XR football? And then we'll get into this contenders. IRL backflip in the Jackson Auto. 18 XR football. So I called over on one of two and a half. Okay. So let's see if we can do it. There's Derek Henry to 199. Stop it, Synvict. One of one. Kelvin Benjamin. Bill's. There you go, Austin B. I think I could smell it. I guess so, honestly. Nice one of one. That's Vikings. Jumbo, Jersey to 49. Dalvin Cook. Rookie Jumbo, Jersey, right? Yeah. 18. You might be 17. I don't have a shield on it. This is Packers Rookie Auto to 199. Jarre Alexander. He's Landry. There's actually a nice auto right there. Here we go. Another one of one coming right here. Two and one more. Yep. That's Terrell Edmonds. Rookie to 99. And Daunte Freeman to 99. Zach Martin to 99. And Washington. That's Rookie Patch Auto to 25. Darius Geiss. It's a Chalen Holmes. Yeah, Benjamin was a big dude. He was. Eddie Lee seen himself out of the league kind of that. Yeah. Just double check something here. One contenders hobby, one contenders first off the line. All right, let's do the contenders hobby first. Nice. Bengals. Rookie Ticket Auto. Evan McPherson. Tom Brady, Supernatural. Feast mode. Josh Allen. So where did they put the inserts at the back now? That's a super dusty Rookie of the Year, Mack Jones. Had some serious dust on it.  It's hiring Matthew to 199. Derek Henry. All right, no more dust. Bo Jackson. I've never seen that. I mean, it's not like a dude named Stan that's working like working and packing these out by hand. When something weird happens like this, it's usually a machine misfire or something. Redemption. Steelers. That is Rookie Ticket Stub Variation. RPS. Pat Fryermuth. Nice one. Steelers. His jersey number's in the 80s, right? 88, I believe. So that'd be numbered to 88-ish. He numbered two as jersey number. Lambjack. Oh, these cards are super dusty, man. Yeah, nice one. Some Victor. Mike Evans. Kyle Pitts. We're going to add dust on some Victor. There's a Mack Jones, Najee Harris. Do a dice roll. One, two, three, top, four, five, six, bottom. That is six. Goes bottom. Steelers. Dusty first rounders. Warren Sapp. All the audios. Here's one. That's Jets Rookie Otto. Elijah Vera Tucker. Russell Wilson. Phil Romanowski. Shot Bateman. This is Rams. Rookie Ticket Otto. Ernest Jones. Tyreek. Exactly. Winning ticket. Patrick Mahomes. This is Texans. Rookie Otto. Jalen Camp. Tua. I think I'd rather just send it to you, some Victor. I think I'd feel better doing that. Yeah, we've had people in the past, we've had people scratch codes for redemptions. I mean, not necessarily here, but scratch the code right off. Yeah, I'm just a little weary of that, some Victor. Contenders first off the line, calling a dust free one here. Really Bradley. That is Red Zone. Derek Henry. Jerry Rice. Redemption. That goes to a valued collector. That's one of you. That is Rookie Playoff Ticket Variation. JC Horne. Panthers. Panthers. There you go, Carolina. There's Tom Rady, MVP candidate. Or MVP contenders. Jeff Ryan. I keep whatever win that. Aaron Matthew. Tom Brady. Like washed now. Is Tom Brady done? I'm never gonna say that. There's Jamar Chase. He just defies anything anybody's ever seen. Browns. Rookie Ticket, Red Zone. Otto Anthony Schwartz. Patrick Mahomes. Tom Brady. Playoff Ticket. Kyle Trask. Rookie of the Year. Contenders. 20 Redemptions. Jesus. Alright, that's gonna be a lot of fun. That is Browns. Rookie Ticket. Otto Jeremiah. Owosu. Koramoa. Pretty good. Jonathan Taylor. I'm impressed. Keep the syllables just spilling out. Sounds like you know what you're saying. Randy Moss. This is Falcons. Rookie Ticket. Otto Darren Hall. Say, come on. Brady a lot last EFL. Daniel Jones. There's Trevor Lawrence. Super natural. This is Jags. Rookie Ticket. Otto Jay Tafeli. That's Anthony Schwartz. Tracervin. Top one, two, three. Bottom four, five, six. That is two. Goes top. Browns. Anthony Schwartz. Zach Wilson. It's Tre Lansack. Wilson. Top one, two, three. Bottom four, five, six. That is one. Goes top. Tre Lance. Niners. Oh, let's do Elements. 2021 Elements Football. Again, we will do a hit recap at the end of this. If you can't stick around for the whole break, or if you don't want to listen to my voice for the whole break. No hard feelings. Totally understand this, right? All right. That is Colts Cobalt. Jonathan Taylor. That is 25 of 27. And Chargers. Cool hit here. That's Sean Merriman. Neon Metal Otto. Seven of 10. That's the first Merriman Otto I've ever pulled. This is Bucks. Rookie, Neon Signs Otto to 75. Kyle Trask. There you go, Tampa Bay. Do points expire? I don't think so. I'm not sure. I don't know. Nice Trask. And Saints. That is Rookie Patch. Sorry, Jersey to 199. Ian Book. Cowboys. Gold. Metal. Emmet Smith to 250. All right, another Elements. I like Elements a lot. I think it's underrated. I do too. Any good Panthers? JC Horn. Variation Redemption. Out of Contenders. That's Nick Bosa. Gold Niners. Ravens. That's Rookie, Jersey to 199. Rashad Bateman. Downs. Metal Otto. Austin Hooper. That's to 199. And Saints. Gold. Rookie Otto. Ian Book. That was to 79. Looks like there's a little dust or something there on his Jersey. And Washington to 94. That is Plutonium. Amy Brown. Cat hair on the Jersey. Let's do some 2021 Limited. A normal set of Crown Royale for football. They used to be, right? Well, no. Oh, was it? I think so. Like mid 2010, like 1415. All right, there's Lamjack to 149. This is Vikings. Jersey to 99. Justin Jefferson. Base. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a bad combo. Broncos. Nice. Five of five. Ring of Honor autograph. Peyton Manning. Nice hit. Denver Congrats. There you go. Broncos. Patrick T. Beautiful Manning. There's Michael Carter, Rookie's Insert. There's Mooney. Chiefs. Rookie, Jersey Otto to 199. Cornell Powell. How about a box of 2019 Limited now? I guess we're not having any higher card count boxes. There's that prism first off the line, but yeah. More of a higher end one. This is Cardinals. Rookie, Patch Otto to 199. Andy Isabella. That just sounds, it just doesn't sound right. That's a printing plate. One of one. Is that OBJ? Yep. Browns. Odell Beckham Jr. There you go, Cleveland. Well, combo hit there. And redemption. Nice. Broncos. Ring of Honor autographs. Printing plate. Black. John L. Way. Patrick T. Congrats. So are we calling that three one of ones or are we going to forget about the plate and call this one a one of one? No, they're both one of ones. Yeah, I would say they're both one of ones. Awesome hit. Denver. It's expired. Yeah, 21. Yeah. If they have it, if they have it when you redeem it, they will honor it. That's how that still works, right? Yeah. Andy Dalton 75. That is Raiders. Rookie Jumbo, Patch 25. Josh Jacobs. Let's do, let's do 2021 obsidian. We're going to do the high end stuff. Last, well, not last, last, we're going to do that and then we'll get to the helmets at the very end. Yeah, exactly. I don't, I wouldn't think they would still be chasing Elway down to. So we've already exceeded the two and a half auto. We've already gone over on the over under. There's Racy McMath rookie and Panthers 75 rookie triple relic. Terrace Marshall Jr. That's two jerseys and a football. This is Jags to 75 rookie triple relic Travis Etienne Jr. Two jerseys and a football. Falcons to 199 rookie Otto Frank Darby, your favorite back song, two jerseys and a football. This is Bears to 75 rookie Jersey Otto Justin Fields. Nice color match. Congrats Bears. There you go. DW very nice fields. That is DK Metcalf 75 and tunnel vision die cut Justin Herbert nine of 10 very nice chargers. Let's do this origins first off the line and then we'll jump over to 2020 obsidian from me some origins. Oh, that's awesome, Brendan. Oh, wow. That is Julio Jones to 17 Titans and Kenny Galladay to 175 Jacobs and Najee Harris rookie. This is Cardinals jumbo Jersey to 49 Kyler Murray Cardinals rookie Jersey Otto Ron Dale Moore. This is Giants rookie receiving stars Otto to 17 Cadarius Tony. Nice hit Giants. That's Drew M. Right. How about a box of 2020 obsidian burrows and Herbert's to a Justin Jefferson. That's Quintez Cephas rookie chargers to 100 Jersey Joey Bosa Washington to 75 rookie Jersey Antonio Gandy Golden. I think he just retired. Broncos to 150. That's rookie Otto Tyree Cleveland and Packers to 150 rookie Jersey Otto Jordan Love. There you go. Green Bay. Brian are nice Jordan love. That is Jeter Gross Mottos rookie and tunnel vision die cut to a tag of I loa five of 25 nice low numbered rookie insert dolphins. Dan M. Very nice to a this Jeter Gross Mottos was to 100. By the way, pretty good. I'd say, Brendan, a lot of nice stuff. Let's do let's do this prism team all a couple boxes of 21 present team all here year. That's been good, Brendan. I'm having a lot of fun ripping this weekend. I am most definitely feeling my age tonight though, but I'll be in bed in an hour and a half. So Khalil Herbert, Quitty Pay, Rookie Silver, Kylan Hill and nice red and yellow, Brandon cooks. That's to 39 by random cook. Let's hope it was the 99 for us full of the of Brandon cooks to 99 on Chronicles. He's like, this is the ultimate card. Remember a few years ago? It was like maybe a year after that happened when Penini put, I think this was in like contenders and it was card number 99. Oh my God. Ambrie Thomas, Amari Rogers, Silver Rookie, Javon Holland, red and yellow, Kenny Galladay. So KJ. All right. Let's do 2020 prism team all to the connection drop. It's back now. Oh, I guess it did for a second or two. Like the name and 20 seconds or so. Yeah. That is Rookie Silver, Darenton Evans, red and yellow. That is Ryan Tannehill. You go Titans. There's Ross Blacklock. They've on chasing. You missed the pack before the last. Yeah, there was nothing really out of those prism team all. This is mosaic choice. All right. 2021 mosaic choice. Thanks, Brandon. Appreciate it. All right. Let's see something crazy here. Rookie Silver, Michael Carter, Mosaic, Deandre Swift and Giants. Rookie mosaic auto or choice auto Aziz Ojalari, Patriots 11 of 80 almost got the jersey number that is Super Bowl MVP's Tom Brady. Nice Brady. There's number 11 there. Julio Jones, 13 of 80 Patriots Rodney Harrison to 80. That is Ben Scourneck, 80 Tommy Trembl rookie Panthers. All right. Here we go. 2021 prism football first off the line. Yep. Time for a monster here. There's Rex Ryan, rookie. How about Black Finite Rex Ryan? Pat Fryer Mew. Orange, Hunter Renfrow. Marshawn Latimore. Renfrow is to 249. Ernest Jones, Rashawn Slater. This is Blue Wave. Sean Alexander. Kyle Trask, rookie emergent insert. There's Michael Carter. Is this going to be a ooh? I think we have a color blast coming. Michael Carter rookie, she Smith. Rookie, color blast Eagles. Devonta Smith. Nice hit, Philly. Congrats. Awesome. Patrick S. Congrats. That is awesome. Thanks, Alicia. Beauty. It's Joe Thysman. Yeah, I saw that white. My first thought was that it was going to be a redemption. And then as I started getting closer, I was like, hmm, not Baker Pete Warner. There's rookie Davis Mills, Blue Shimmer, Eric Ebron, Steelers. That is, it's a 25. And there's Jalen Ramsey, Green Hyper, 175. Byron Jones, rookie Jake Funk. There's Mack Jones, rookie. Green Hyper, Cadarius Tony, rookie. Nice one. It's 175. There's Jonathan Taylor all out, kid reporter. Some purple power coming here. Chas Sarat. Elijah Moore, rookie. Are there any Vikings in Prism? Maybe we'll get a color match here on this purple power. That is James Connor as a Cardinal, DK Metcalf. Yeah, you don't want to forget about the G-Spin Karnit. That's right there on the bottom. So I'm just going to show it now. Cardinals, that is rookie, Shimmer, Otto, Rondale Moore, 17 of 35. There you go, Arizona. That's first off the line exclusive. Brother Jordan, Travis Etn, Jr., rookie, and Blue Wave, Christian Wilkins. Blue Shimmer, Russell Wilson. There you go, Seahawks. That is to 25. Red Wave, LaVisca Chanel, Jr. There's Prism Break, Devonta Smith. That's 900 points for random tall at the end. Let's go this way. Brock Lesnar, Mahomes, Ken Wangu, Patrick Sartin, and Jamon Davis, rookie, red, Shimmer, 35. Three packs to go. Yeah, I agree. There's Kellan Mond, rookie. Marquez Stevenson, and Vikings. Purple, Color Match, Irv Smith, Jr. There you go, Minnesota. It's 125. There's Kyle Pitts, fireworks rookie insert. Devonta Smith, rookie, Nick Bolton, and Purple Ice, rookie, Nick Bolton. That's to 225. Loosest. Here it comes. Racy McMath, rookie, Silver. What's that? Devonta Williams, rookie. There's Roundtree. This is Ian Thomas, red, Shimmer. And AJ Green, Blue Ice. DK on the back. Let's do 2018, Panini Honors. This is Niners, rookie, Goldzone Otto, Dante Pettis. That is 27 of 50. Score, Chrome, rookie, Goldzone Otto. And Panthers. That is encased, reserve signatures. Recollection collection. Hand numbered, one of one, Otto Greg Olson. There you go, Carolina. Fourth one of one of the break. That goes to a combo spot. There you go, Don C. Core, Chrome, Calvin Ridley, and Ray Lewis. Nice one. All right, 2020 Honors. All right, this is Titans. Hand numbered, two of three. Recollection collection from Impeccable. That is indelible ink, Jevon Curse. There you go, Titans. You ready for this? Tennessee Titans, indelible ink from Impeccable Recollection Collection. There you go, Tennessee. That was impressive. And this is Washington Redemption. This expired about two weeks ago. That is Washington Rookie Otto Chase Young. I would still try to redeem this. If they have it, they'll send it to you. If not, I think they replace it with points, right? Probably, yeah. Or something. Yeah. They should have that. That's Michael Pittman Jr. Rookie Blue. And to a tag of Iloa. That is Rookie Green Dolphins. One of 25. Jersey number. Congrats, Miami. Very, very nice looking card. 16 of 70. 16 of 70 on that Michael Pittman Jr. Let's do 2021 Immaculate Football. Come on, big hit. That is Matt Ryan. 75. Browns. Jersey to 80. Jarvis Landry. And Chiefs. Jumbo Patch. Patrick Mahomes. Three of five. Nice one, Casey. That looks like a sock, doesn't it? That's not a Jersey patch, unless it's maybe a throwback. Do you think it's not a sleeve? Like you see we're under the 15 on a sleeve right here? Yeah, if they did a throwback Jersey with that material, maybe. Yeah, you're probably right. Those are jerseys are more like spandex. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Player worn Mahomes though. Very nice card. Three of five. Congrats Chiefs. And this is Jets Rookie iBlack Jersey Auto. Two of 10. Elijah Moore. Congrats Jets. Hilton T. Two of 10. 10 minus two equals eight. Jersey number. Redemption. Jets. Immaculate Rookie. Shadowbox Signatures. Elijah Moore. More, more. I want some Vicka. See what some Vicka said. It's not Ron Dillon L'Arsty. And Texans. Rookie Patch Auto to 99. Nico Collins. Here we go. 2021 National Treasures Football. Grab your boxes for tomorrow. Personal box breaks with Sam.  That's Warren Moon. The 20. See you, Bryce. See you, Bryston. And Rookie to 99. Treasured Moments. Trey Lance. Very nice. Here you go Niners. This is Dolphins. Jersey to 99. Ricky Williams. Steelers. Jumbo Jersey to 99. Chase Claypool. This is Colts. That's dual Jersey to 99. Jonathan Taylor. Panthers. Rookie Jumbo Patch to 25. J. C. Horn. This is Washington. Rookie Auto to 49. John Bates. And Panthers. Rookie Field Pass Auto to 99. Terrace Marshall Jr. These are so nice looking. Love that. Browns Auto. That is to 49. Joe Tonnis. Little Lyman Ledge and Love There. And Butt. Jets to 99. Rookie Jumbo Prime Signatures. Zach Wilson. Congrats Jets Hilton T. Nice Zach Wilson. Great hit for you Hilton. All right. We're gonna close it out with the 2017 iMac before we do the helmets. So let me do flawless first. Mortars already tomorrow. Every single Elijah. I'm like nervous to call him Ron Delmore accidentally now. That's like in my head. Yeah 17 iMac Bradley. Yep. Here we go. This is Bucks. Dual patches. Eight of 10. Shaquille Barrett. Really cool looking card. There you go Tampa Bay. This is Ravens. Dual patches. Five of 10. Lamar Jackson and Marquise Brown. Jersey number hit for Hollywood there is Hall of Fame Auto. That'll be a random between the Steelers and Jets. 20 of 25 Alan Fanica. Steelers and Jets. This is Browns. Browns are doing well. That is Rookie Glove Signatures to 25 Anthony Schwartz. Another hit for Cleveland. Another hit for the Cardinals. That is Rookie Auto. 10 of 15. Ron Delmore. Or as Sam would call him Elijah Moore. This is Colts. Patch Auto. Two of 15. Marshall Falk. Nice hit Colts. Two of 15. This is Broncos. Patch Auto. Six of 10. Terrell Davis. Another nice hit for the Broncos. I think it's cool to see them in the Colts jersey but yeah Marshall Falk when I think Falk I definitely rammed this is what I pictured in my brain. This is Titans. Ruby Jim 12 of 20. Derek Henry. There you go Tennessee. We don't send out the cases anymore. And this is Texans. One of two. Rookie Nike Swoosh Patch. Davis Mills. Congrats Texans. Awesome hit. Mark S with the Texans. Beautiful Nike Swoosh Rookie Patch. Here's the Diamond Guarantee. This is Jags. Rookie Diamond Jim Auto. Seven of 10. Trevor Lawrence. Jacksonville. Congrats. That is Drew M. Beauty. I'm only pulled like two or three teeth. I'm just saying compared to yeah nine. There's that fanica. We'll random that at the end. I got you. Three paces empty. All right. Here we go. 20. 17. Immaculate football. Stop it to Victor. Stop it. Stop it. That's a good class too. Mahomes was a rookie in 17. This is Mahomes rookie year. Let's see something crazy. There's Kurt Warner to 99. Cardinals. Yeah I really want to pull a crazy hit. Cowboys. Dual jerseys to 99. Dak Prescott. Ezekiel Elliott. Second year. Dak and Zeke. There's my boy Titans. That's Rookie Jumbo Patch. Numbers. Taiwan Taylor Tennessee Titans. That is one of 50. You're just talking about it yesterday. That's so funny. I love that you pulled him. Here's a rookie you're probably not thinking of. That's so sick. This is Rams. Rookie Eye Black Auto to 99. Cooper Cuck. Nice hit Rams. Congrats. There you go Rams. Very nice. Birds. Shadow Box Auto to 99. Rich Ganon. Nice hit Raiders. And on the back this is Steelers. Rookie Patch Auto. Juju Smith Schuster. That is 49 of 99. There you go. Send Victor. Nice way to close out the card part of this break. Bratson. Awesome hit. This is sealed. Right. Fanatic helmet. Mystery Autograph Full Size Authentic Helmet. You see there are Cardinal. That is any unhook here. AJ Green. There you go. Cardinals. Cardinals have had a really good break. Nice AJ Green. You see the authentication sticker on the back. All right. Next box. I am going to do a hit recap except these helmets. We're not going to be able to get these out twice. This is Giants Lunar Speed Super Bowl MVP Inscribed Auto Phil Sims. Show it off a little bit better. Yeah that's much better. Awesome one. There you go Giants. That would go to Drew M. My voice is going to hold up through the hit recap and then it'll be done. That would be done. Once we're done streaming that's good. We also have a couple of randoms to do for the Panini Points and the Alan Fanatic. This is Patriots Rob Gronkowski. That is the Pro Speed Helmet. Nice Gronk. And again all of these do have the authentication sticker on the back there with the QR code. Three to go. This is going to be a 2021 NFL Draft Speed Helmet. I have never seen one of these. That's so cool. Look at this. Jalen Wattle going to the Dolphins with the 2021 NFL Draft logo. That is awesome. That is seriously one of the coolest helmets. Wow. Who had the Dolphins? Dan M. Congrats. I've never seen that either. All right. That's what you get for authentic. Yeah. That waddle was awesome. That is Steelers Authentic Pro Helmet Franco Harris Auto. There you go. Nice one. Pittsburgh. Sinvicta. Sinvicta. There we go. One more to go. Let's finish strong here. Let's see something crazy. Although that waddle already qualifies as crazy. All right. This is New York Giants Kenny Gholiday. That is an Eclipse Speed Helmet Auto. There you go Drew. Nice Kenny G. Are these all his? Yes, those. This is not that base. That's Max's stuff. Jersey's autos. All right. Let me random. Let me do these two randoms before I do the recap. I will forget. That flip is going to get some points. Funday points have all 30 spots. So we have first random we'll do is for the 900 points. That's a random to all. And the second one is for the Flawless Hall of Fame Auto to 25 Alan Fanica. That was Steelers and Jets. Let me type those two in. That was 900 points, right? Yes. All right. Here we go. We will randomize five times on each of these. For the points there's one, two, three, four, and five Broncos. Broncos get the points and five times on the Fanica. One, two, three, four, and five. Steelers. Congrats Steelers. All right. Hit recap. I'm going to do this all in three or fewer breaths. I wouldn't even be able to get all the I won't even be able to get through this first card without taking a breath. All right. First star relics. That's a Tay Juan Taylor, Tennessee Titans, Rookie Jumbo Patch. That was numbered to 50. Cowboys, dual jerseys, 99. Dak Prescott, Ezekiel Elliott. Ravens, Flawless Dual Patches to 10. Lamar Jackson, a Marquise Brown. That's Bucks, Flawless Dual Patch to 10. Chiquil Barrett. Dolphins, Jersey to 99. Ricky Williams. Panthers, Rookie Patch. Rookie Jumbo Patch to 25. JC Horn. Colts, Dual Jersey to 99. Jonathan Taylor. Steelers, Jumbo Jersey to 99. Chase Claypool. Browns, Jersey to 80. Jarvis Landry. Washington, Rookie Jersey. Antonio Gandy-Golden. That was to 75. Chargers, Jersey. Joey Bosa to 100. Cardinals, Jumbo Jersey to 49. Kyler Murray. That's Jags, Rookie Triple Relic. Travis Etn, Jr. to 75. Panthers, Rookie Triple Relic. Terrace Marshall, Jr. to 75. Raiders, Jumbo, that's Rookie Jumbo Patch to 25. Josh Jacobs. That's Vikings, Jersey to 99. Justin Jefferson. Ravens, Rookie Jersey to 199. Rashad Bateman. Saints, Rookie Jersey to 199. Ian Book. Vikings, Jumbo Jersey to 49. Dalvin Cook. Jags, Rookie Jersey to 199. Trevor Lawrence. Autos, we had Raiders to 99. Rich Gannon. Broncos, Patch Auto to 10. Terrell Davis. Cardinals, Rookie Auto to 15. Rondale Moore. Browns, Rookie Glove, Auto to 25. Anthony Schwartz. Browns, Auto to 49. Joe Thomas. Panthers, Rookie Field Pass, Auto to 49. I'm sorry, to 99. Terrace Marshall, Jr. That's Washington, Rookie Auto to 49. John Bates. Texans, Rookie Patch, Auto to 99. Nico Collins. Jets, Immaculate Rookie Shadowbox Signatures, Elijah Moore. And that was a Rookie Eye Black Auto to have 10 Elijah Moore for the Jets. Cardinals, Rookie Red Shimmer, Auto, Rondale Moore. Giants, Mosaic Choice, Rookie Auto, Aziz Aljolari. Packers, Rookie Jersey, Auto. Jordan Love, that was to 150. Broncos, Rookie Auto, Tyree Cleveland, to 150. Giants, Rookie Auto to 17. Cadarius, Tony. Cardinals, Rookie Jersey, Auto, Rondale Moore. Falcons, Rookie Auto, Frank Darby, to 199. This is Cardinals, Rookie Patch, Auto to 199. Andy Isabella. Chiefs, Rookie Patch, Auto to 199. Cornell Powell. Saints, Rookie Gold, Auto, that's to 79. Ian Book. Browns, Auto, Austin Hooper, to 199. Bucks, Auto to 175. Rookie Neon Signs, Kyle Trask. This was Chargers, Neon, Metal Auto, Sean Merriman. That was to 10. Contenders, Autos. These are all Rookie Autos. Jags, Jay Tafeli. Falcons, Darren Hall. Browns, Jeremiah Owosu Koramoa. That's Red Zone. Browns, Anthony Schwartz. Panthers, Playoff Ticket Variation, JC Horne. That is Jags, Jalen Camp. Rams, Ernest Jones. Jets, Elijah Vera Tucker. Steelers, Rookie Ticket Stub Variation, Pat Fryermuth. Bangles, Evan McPherson. And then we had Washington, Rookie Patch, Auto to 25. Darius Geis. That's Packers, Rookie Auto to 199. Jair Alexander. One-of-one, Kelvin Benjamin for the bills. Dolphins, Rookie Auto to 75. Jalen Waddle. Titans, Jayon Brown. Seahawks, Wayne Eskridge, and Giants. Cadarius Tony. We had Jets, Rookie Jumbo, Prime Signatures Book, Zach Wilson. Niners, Score, Goldzone, Auto, Dante Pettis. That was to 50. And then we had Titans, hand numbered, two of three, Javon Curse from Honors. That was a Rookie Honors Signatures, Chase Young. That did expire a couple weeks ago. Hopefully they'll be able to take care of that for you. And then we had Rookie Patch, Auto Steelers, Juju Smith Schuster. Very nice hit for the Steelers. We had Panthers, hand numbered, one-of-one, Greg Olson. Colts, two of 15, Patch, Auto, Marshall Falk. Texans, one of two, Nike Swoosh Patch, Davis Mills. Eagles, Color Blast, Devonta Smith. That is Chiefs, Jumbo Patch, three of five, Patrick Maholms. So Victor, how did you not know that? That's like common knowledge. That's Broncos, Ring of Honor, Autographs, Printing Plate Black, John Elway. Again, that one's expired. If they have it, they'll fill it. If not, I believe they replaced those with points. Rams, Rookie Eye Black Auto Cooper Cup. That one was unexpected. That's cool. That is Jags, Rookie Diamond Gem, Auto, Seven of Ten, Trevor Lawrence. Bears, Rookie Patch, Auto, 75, Justin Fields. And Broncos, Ring of Honor, Autographs, Five of Five, Peyton Manning. All right. That is going to do it for the break. Thank you, everybody. You might forget anything. No, I think you did. All right. That's it for the night. Thank you. Grab up your spots for the group breaks on Tuesday. Grab your boxes for personals with Sam tomorrow, 5 p.m. start time. Have a good night, everybody. Appreciate it. See you, guys.


Ladies and gentlemen, very good morning to you all. Thank you for coming and I'm very glad Karsten Finke is here, our Chief Economist who directed the work on this report. As Samah has said, we publish these reports every two years. So we published the first one on the changing face of innovation now some four years ago and the second one on brands, brands reputation and image in the global marketplace and this one as Samah has also mentioned on breakthrough innovation and economic growth. So what's the idea here, just some preliminary words if I may. Well first of all, economic growth you're all extremely familiar with and while one can't consider it a panacea for all problems in the world it is of course extremely important and I think you're very familiar with the reasons why it's important, it improves living standards, creates new employment opportunities and helps alleviate poverty. So we're all very much focused on economic growth as one of the essential components really of our economic analysis of the state of the world. Now can we take economic growth for granted and our experience since the global financial crisis of course in 2008 is one in which economic growth rates have consistently disappointed. Year after year since 2008 we've seen disappointing growth rates and various people are raising the question as to whether low growth is the new normal as they say and that is one of the things that has driven us to the theme this year because part of the answer in terms of economic growth is innovation. Not necessarily all of the answer but part of the answer is certainly innovation and historically major breakthroughs in technological innovation, technological progress have been the root of long lasting expansions of economic growth. So in many ways what we see in the 21st century of course is an acceleration of innovation activity, certainly an acceleration of interest, a concentration of interest in innovation. But how far are the breakthroughs of today going to take us tomorrow and that remains an open question. Our next link of course is intellectual property and intellectual property is an essential but not sufficient condition or component of a healthy innovation ecosystem. However, the way in which it operates to support innovation is complex and it does vary across technologies and different forms of intellectual property. So it's to shed light on these channels in particular that is the influence of intellectual property to be a bit more subtle and sophisticated about our analysis of intellectual properties influence in relation to innovation, in turn in relation to economic growth that we have focused this report on breakthrough innovations and economic growth. The report presents a series of case studies, there are six case studies, three about historical technological breakthroughs and three about contemporary technological breakthroughs. So the three historical studies are aeroplanes, antibiotics and semiconductors and the three contemporary breakthroughs or potential breakthroughs are 3D printing, nanotechnology and robotics. Briefly then what are the report's main findings, well first of all it emphasises once again the elements of successful innovation ecosystems, namely first of all government support and funding for scientific research and support for moving through the complex process of moving technology from the laboratory to the production stage. Many competitive market forces that encourage firms to innovate supported by vibrant financial markets and sound regulation and then fluid linkages between the public and private institution or innovation actors. One of the first findings or main findings is that breakthrough innovation remains geographically concentrated, relying on patent mapping which we have done in the report. It shows that six countries accounted for 75% of all time patent filings in the areas of 3D printing, nanotechnology and robotics, the three potential breakthrough areas. And those six countries are perhaps no surprise, Japan, United States, Germany, France and the United Kingdom and the Republic of Korea. China is the only emerging middle-income country that's moving up closer to this group of countries and looking at more recent history, so the first figures I gave you were for all time activity. Well I'll give you, I gave you 3D printing nanotechnology and robotics, all time figures. Now if you look more recent history, patents filed since 2005, China accounts for more than a quarter of patents worldwide in 3D printing and robotics, okay? So it's a good indication that here's a new player in the group of the big actors in this area. It also shows the report or documents how innovation is increasingly linked to universities and research institutions. That's something I think that we've spoken about in the past that we know about. So if you take again the three potential breakthroughs, 3D printing, nanotechnology and robotics, it shows higher shares of patenting compared to the historical cases of airplanes, antibiotics and semiconductors for universities and public research institutions. And nanotechnology in particular is a standout with academic applicants accounting for around a quarter of patenting worldwide. Another important finding is that innovation has flourished as a result of knowledge sharing mechanisms. So historically the first clubs of amateur airplane inventors to more contemporary models of open innovation in 3D printing and robotics and we believe that intellectual property is an important mechanism in this because it provides for, first of all, disclosure and secondly a very flexible tool for managing cooperative arrangements in relation to research and development for example by licensing. Now will those three that we've looked at which are potential areas change the world tomorrow in terms of economic growth? That's an open question and for that, besides listening to Carsten, I would encourage you to come to our panel this afternoon in which we have three outstanding economists who will be participating in a discussion about this matter. So perhaps if I may I'll hand over to Carsten. Thank you Director General and good morning to everyone. I won't say much just to emphasise that really one original contribution of our report is the mapping of patents for the six fields of innovation that the Director General mentioned. So through a variety of techniques we did our best to identify all the patent documents in international patent databases and sometimes interestingly for airplanes you know that goes back to the 19th century. Now this is not a statistical report you know we'll present our main flagship statistics report our world IP indicators in December but I think that as journalists you might be interested in you know some of the statistics that emerge out of our patent mapping. So specifically if you look at page 13 in the executive summary you for example would find the top ten applicants for the nanotechnology 3D printing and robotics fields. So a US company called 3D Systems which is a specialised 3D printing company is the top filer for 3D printing and Samsung Electronics of the Republic of Korea emerges as the top filer for nanotechnology and Toyota of Japan as the top filer for robotics and also what is important to keep in mind when you look at these figures these are all time patent filings so whenever patenting in those fields of technology started to emerge until the latest available data and also when you look at patent filing figures here we look at a concept called first patent filings so we look at whenever companies or universities or individuals really present new inventions to patent offices because we feel that is the closest we get to the concept of a new invention and you know that is ultimately what we want to measure. Actually the patent mappings also tell us something about where companies seek protection for their inventions so the figures that the director general mentioned when we report that patent filings are highly concentrated that is in terms of origin that you know is approximately where the innovation takes place we also look at you know where are those inventions protected and it turns out that you know there is strong correlation it is also the high income markets that you know where most of the patents in the fields of 3D printing nanotechnology and robotics are filed low and middle income countries on average receive less than 3% of patents filed worldwide in these three innovation fields. I think that has to do with the fact that high income countries are the economies that of course offers the largest markets for these technologies but also these are the countries that host the technologically most sophisticated competitors so this is where you know companies want to protect their technologies. This is all I wanted to say of course this is a this is a rich report I think each of these case studies you know has interesting conclusions sometimes it's hard to generalize them but we'd be happy to answer any questions you may have on the report. I'm not sure well it's a question of time factor isn't it but Kastun have a shot and on the first one how do we choose those and certainly there is an element of arbitrariness we purposely wanted to look at specific fields of breakthrough innovation also you know we are quite interested in the role of intellectual property and it's quite insightful to look at this in concrete terms. We did do a lot of reading before choosing these fields of breakthrough innovations and I think we can fairly say that the three historical ones and also the three current ones really appear quite prominently on lists of major innovations of the 20th century for example and also when it comes to discussions on what might drive growth in the future nanotechnology 3d printing and robotics are frequently mentioned now we don't pretend to know that these are the ones you know that really will really become important we wanted to you know select a few of course we have resource limitations so we probably can't claim generality but I would say that you know these are the ones that you know certainly of some importance and I think on the second question I think that's also something that emerges especially from the historical case studies I think you know from the viewpoint of I would say both policymaking and business perseverance is important you know innovations often take years and decades to really you know materialize in terms of economic growth especially when innovations transform economic structures when they're at the root of new industries when there's need to acquire new skills in the workforce you know that's not something that you would expect to happen from one year to the next someone really has to have a long-term perspective here I would also if I may suggest that the linkage the nexus that you draw is a little bit too abrupt you could say you could say where would we be if there have not been that innovation so I mean I think we'd have to analyze the components of economic growth and look at what the contribution of innovation was and then there is the time factor and I haven't seen them but I imagine it comes out of the UNESCO Institute for statistics I think on what its precise name is and there is also well there are various you know reports around the world of that seek to document the amount of investment in R&D of course the National Science Foundation does it the OECD does it as well so I'm not sure without seeing those maybe if I can make one more point which we also make in the report it is certainly true if you look at various indicators of innovation activity you know that certainly includes the R&D statistics that UNESCO publishes but it also includes our own patent filing statistics I think one can probably say that never ever has the world invested so much in innovation but it's also the case that you know technological problems are increasingly complex and finding solutions to them is not is certainly not getting any easier and there is a discussion where we don't take a position but there is a discussion among academics there's some academics who argued that it may be hard to match the achievements of some of the past technological breakthroughs so if you look at an areas of health you know we have antibiotics in the report antibiotics is really at the root of major expansions in life expectancy and decline in mortality you know average life expectancy at the beginning of the 19th century was somewhat below 50 years in high-income countries it's generally above 70 years in Japan it's even above 80 years and you know even if one is optimistic about some of the things that are happening in the biosciences field you know there is a question can we see you know similar leaps let's say in in terms of you know increases in life expectancy speed of travel communication as we have seen in the past again we don't take a position but I think that's that's an important question. Tom and then Tom? Tom Miles from Reuters. I have a technical question first of all which is about these graphs I noticed that you do comparison two sets of years one is 95 to 2001 the other was 2005 to 2011 I just want to you know there's a sort of strange way of having two chunks of history what is the gap in between I don't know whether it matters but I just wonder one of those you know why you chose those periods and these graphs. Yeah I mean there is there's no particular reason we could have well I mean I guess we wanted to have a comparison you know to what has happened in the 90s and what happened in more recent history I think in the these charts are also summary charts of you know essentially you have the full time series then in the chapter so this was what just one way of summarizing it. So the questions I want to ask a little bit I have two questions one is what should we read into China having such a predominance of I guess it's universities or sort of state or non-enterprise organizations taking out patents and secondly from your historical study have you concluded anything about countries getting a first mover advantage in in patents because it seems like you know Japan did all of semiconductor patenting for years and years and years but then there was a huge growth in other countries joining in and you know I mean I guess Japan is a important player but is it true to say that countries are too late to join in I don't know for robotics or nanotechnology patenting now. I think these are really good questions. Well look on China of course it's an economy that's organized in a different manner so if you have the state as a principal actor in the economy then a question arises as to how they're going to channel their investment in research and development and there are state-owned enterprises on the one hand and there are the research and development institutions and universities on the other hand so I think it's a question of strategic choice on the part of the Chinese leadership and then the extent to which state-owned enterprises and other enterprises take up investment in research and development will be a function of of their particular strategies and I suppose that what we see is that of course it's heavily dominated by the state the investment in research and development. Does that mean for example that there'll be a wider field of people who can take that intellectual property and develop it rather just one small lab in a company like HP or whatever in the states that we're doing? Possibly China has introduced this year the equivalent of the Baidol Act so the Baidol Act was a major piece of legislation the Baidol Act B-A-Y-L I think D-O-H-L the major piece of legislation in the 1980s or 1984 if I'm not mistaken the United States to get the results of research and development that has been funded in the public sector into the productive sector so it's a very market-oriented measure and interestingly China has adopted that measure within the last 12 months so it's a measure to get this research into the productive economy so yes it we will see what happens I suppose and you second I'm sorry question was I just wonder whether it matters to whether okay I was yes well I'm sure it does and Castan might have something to say about that but let me if I may say one other thing which is there are breakthrough sectors and there are breakthrough innovations within a sector so it's interesting to look at the how the whole sector you know performs and who's dominant in it but if you look at semiconductors of course then the Kilby patent of Texas Instruments in 1962 was the fundamental invention in the whole field of course a lot has happened since then but it was a fundamental invention in the in the whole field which started it was the semiconductor you know the original integrated circuit maybe one or two observations on China first to clarification on the data so the data when we report chairs of university and public research organization these are really universities and public research organization and not state-owned companies state-owned companies would you know show up as as corporations in our data also these findings are quite specific to the three technologies at hand if one looks at others for example at digital communications there you have a much stronger presence of companies in the patenting landscape this is something that we you know frequently point out when we publish our statistics report now I think there may be two ways one one could look at you know the high presence of universities and public research organization in in China one way is to argue that well maybe you know in these areas the capacity of the private sector you know to commercialize technology is is is you know relatively more limited obviously in a large economy like like China it's it's it's there I think the more you know sort of long-term view on this is and you know there I can at least give you one sort of piece of evidence from our case studies is that you know the fact that you know China has sort of a scientific capacity you know where the commercial orientation as reflected in the patent findings may prove to be important in the future and to give you one example from our report which is the example of airplanes you know as we all know there's some controversy but you know the first flight of the flying machine you know took place in the United States by the Wright brothers but it was then subsequently Germany where sort of you know Germany was at the center of airplane development and that's where most of the technological progress occurred what our case study seems to suggest is that that was largely because of a sort of strong prior scientific capacity when the Wright brothers invented the airplane they really didn't understand how why an airplane flew it was largely trial and error and that only happened later on now the environment in Germany was one where many of the pilots had a scientific background where many of the entrepreneurs that drove airplane development has had close links to the science system and that environment turned out to be extremely fruitful you know for airplane development and you know only later when the United States sort of then became after the Second World War a leader in airplane development a lot of that was due to German scientists actually moving to to the United States I think the only point I want to make here is that you know yes I think these initial conditions matter I think there's a lot of serendipity in there they are often hard to predict but I think in the case of China you know one sort of has to assess that you know maybe in 20 or 30 years then looking back at history may I offer one other comment on your third question I think I'm much less scientific than Carsten but I think there is a certain amount of evidence to suggest that science and technology are coming closer together one such piece of evidence is when they examine patent applications they look at what's technically called the prior art that is what has gone before and we see that scientific articles are cited increasingly as well as patents so they're looking at science as much as technology if you like as relevant to the new inventions that are being examined and that's well documented and this is a tendency I think that that explains the larger activity of universities and research institutions in patenting it's coming back to your table on the page that I'm very intrigued to find out both the companies that have filed how many have moved fast into the development phase other than what's the time gap between the invention and moving into something concrete and if you have figures on the R&D or how much is spent by these companies because that would be interesting how much is that is are they licensing this research are they making the patents in cooperation with others or are they taking the lead and secondly does your research include the huge R&D done by ministries of defense a lot of it which is classified especially in nanotechnology and robotics of what is being done in the industry with defense is that captured in the report well the R&D figures capture the defense expenditure on R&D that are that are collected another source by the way to in addition to those that we've mentioned that you can look at is Batel Institute which publishes a report on R&D each year and it does go into different industry sectors in more detail so yes that is but look on the commercialization process well we don't have and I think there's not a press conference in which you don't ask that question and which I don't apologize for the absence of the information but we don't have that information that data it would require you to analyze the accounts of every single company and those accounts in this regard are not necessarily immediately transparent because of course for an enterprise that's operating multinationally it has a complex structure many subsidiaries and it takes advantages of different fiscal regimes so it's difficult to get precise figures on this and it requires some work that we have not yet done yeah I mean I don't have much I mean as usually you ask the toughest questions just to highlight that of course you know patent data are very useful because you have unit record data you know what is being patented by whom and so on but of course you know patents are not a perfect proxy of innovation so to the extent that you know innovation never in some sense sees the day of light or is never published to the patent system you know it wouldn't show up in our figures we do in the various case studies also report some data on research and development we also report data on scientific publications which is another way of you know sort of looking at innovation output but on commercialization as the director general mentioned it's it's rather difficult no because this is linked to economic growth so the time gap is critical yes yes you would find qualitative discussion on this but you know we wouldn't be able to tell you for you know let's say the top patent filers in these fields of innovation what they're commercializing when they're commercializing it's coming back to Francis's example of Texas Instruments in 1962 but the whole thing took off in a big way in the 80s yeah yeah yes and there are other examples of this television is I can't give you on top of my head the exact dates but television was invented about 30 years before it was commercialized and another example is the jet engine that was also invented a long time before it was commercialized but that's not to say there's not a lot of incremental invention and innovation that follows the initial breakthrough foundation if you were an idea no well if we knew but that's the problem look there are all sorts of anecdotal evidence about the increase of industrial espionage because of the vast capacity technological capacity to store data now and and the vulnerability that that produces so we hear a lot about that of course but by definition we're not supposed to hear about espionage you know if it's successful we won't really know about it but it highlights a different area of intellectual property which is really trade secrecy and trade secrecy is on in the view of many becoming more important because of first of all the vulnerability and because secondly of knowledge sharing mechanisms such as global value chains because you can't have a global value chain without sharing a certain amount of information and so your exposure is increased and because thirdly of the mobility of people skilled resources who can take information with them and perhaps falsely because you have the the patent is the the core of the invention but there's a lot of information that surrounds it which can be very valuable but it's not absolutely essential for the patent application and this is certainly the case in some of the areas of the biosciences that rely on on vast amounts of data that they process and none of that is an invention the data but the data is valuable and has been collected and is tempting I was wondering are do you think it's would be beneficial for more countries to get involved in this and also when you're talking about commercialization do you think that you're talking about the television it took 30 years but today the world is better you know how quickly is it going now it seems like you know you have an innovation and that's commercialized tomorrow well on the first part I think it's a strategic question for a country you know so obviously we know broadly the linkages between technological progress let's say or innovation and economic growth then you know it's up to a country to devise its own particular strategy as to how it it matches its economic possibilities with that fact and where it's going to place itself and there are various different forms of strategy such as for example smart specialization you know where you might concentrate on one particular or several particular areas where you think you might have a comparative advantage so it's really a strategic question for economists and the government in each particular country on the second one I don't think I can make anything resembling a scientific comment on you know whether there is this acceleration as you suggest everything that we would you know think as laypersons would suggest that maybe there is this acceleration because you have so much activity in you know the innovation now and if it just went back a hundred years obviously it was a vastly different scene and many of the much of life is accelerated now so you would you would expect that but I can't give you a scientific explanation Karsten maybe we actually have a figure in the report that speaks to that on page 11 figure 3 and this draws on work that an economist named Diego Common at Harvard Business School has undertaken he and together with some other economists they've built a database of how major technological innovations have spread through the world and I suppose there's good news and bad news coming out of that the good news is exactly what you mentioned if you look at the average adoption lag that adoption lag is much shorter today than it was in the past so you look at you know steam and motor ships that were first adopted in the early 19th century it took more than a hundred years essentially for economies around the world on average to adopt that particular technology you look then at cell phones and the internet you know those technologies are adopted essentially within a few years after their first sort of commercial introduction now the more worrying news concerns the level of use of these technologies within those countries so what the second child on the right hand side shows you is the difference in penetration rates of these technologies relative to to high-income countries and there we see that the newer technologies you know are sort of less intensively used you know in in poorer economies that at first might seem surprising especially if one you know sees how widely cell phones and the internet have spread to developing countries but if you have a close look at the data it just turns out that these technologies are far more heavily used in developed countries so in a sense you know that is good news and bad news so technologies seem to seem to spread you know faster but their intensity of use you know the differences across countries you know seem to be on the increase and if you go back a very long time you know in support of what you say it took 4 000 years to move from hunter-gatherer to settled agriculture and urbanization in the fertile crescent so that process actually took about 4 000 years so we certainly seem to be a little bit quicker I think now well I think what you say in itself I think is quite interesting because you look at the three historical ones and we are really talking about you know the early 20th century here so it seems like the group of leading innovators hasn't changed much in the course of more than a hundred years and that also applies you know for essentially you know for the performance of economies you look at the top 10 economies in the middle of the 19th century you look at the top 10 economies in terms of GDP per capita today if I remember correctly I think there are only two economies that were able to break into the into the top 10 group which I believe are Singapore and Hong Kong so there seems to be a lot of persistence as far as sort of you know innovation goes but also as far as as economic success goes I would say listen I mean this is a big question and I think there's you know even the brightest economists working on this don't necessarily have a one line one line answer to that but I think it is the case that you know initial conditions matter I think you know the emergence of China which you know by historical standards is still a relatively new phenomenon I think is something that's really remarkable you know that's certainly not news to you given that you know we have presented a lot of patent statistics IP statistics on China on previous occasions that's why I would leave it you could also perhaps add as an example the Republic of Korea and I don't have the figures but if you go back to the early 60s you find an extremely one of the lowest per capita GDPs in the world yes and now of course it's in an vastly different position and technology has played a major part in that sir we're not only flat but also the poor of performance of the emerging economies in the last couple of yeah I mean I don't think I have a lot of intelligent things to say about this it is certainly the case you know that you know we broadly make this distinction between let's say those leading economies high income countries and one would add China to that and other low and middle income countries but even within that there's a lot of you know variation certainly you know countries such as brazils of Africa also india in some areas have you know centers of excellence especially on the scientific front you know if you look at for example their journal publications output in some cases it's it's quite impressive but you know in in in terms of levels it's still considerably below what you would find in you know in in the group of technological leaders it's also the case that certainly the more volatile history and you know that applies till the state of growth performance in these economies you know presents a challenge in sustainably funding innovation in these countries and you know that's certainly something that Brazil struggles with these days well only peripherally and we are quite explicit about this at the outset it is a really important topic you know that one one one you know certainly can't set aside and it was mainly for you know space reasons that you know we felt if we do it we have to give proper treatment to that and you know we probably would have easily you know increase the report in half now you know we certainly make the argument that the let's say replacement or redundancy of jobs in the long term is not necessarily a bad thing so if you for example look at the early days of you know unalock to telephony you know you had all these manual switching operators and whose job essentially become redundant the day you know direct dialing was invented and that in the long term is a good thing because it frees up labor in in the economy you know that essentially can be used productively in other areas of the economy but it is something that you know first of all creates hardship for people who lose their work it requires management and it is something you know that you know sometimes may take a take a generation and I think you know sort of dealing with all of this is an important challenge for policymakers and I think it's an important challenge because you know effectively managing that transition you know is you know is essentially a pre-condition for successfully reaping the growth benefits of new innovation. I would like to add a personal comment if I may to your question and I'll leave the report and you know emphasize that it's a very personal view and of course we're dealing with predictions and predictions are you know extremely risky but I would say that there that we should this is an what you your question is extremely profound question and an extremely profound effects may be seen may be seen in the future first of all because what we've seen in the 1990s you know in part because of of the trips agreement and it would rather not the trips agreement excuse me the doh the Uruguay round yeah the Uruguay round and in part because of globalization is that a lot of jobs in the low technology areas were exported offshore from developed countries and that worked to the advantage of developing countries now if robotics and other advanced manufacturing techniques sensors 3d printing and so on hold all the promise that is suggested then it may be that some manufacturing will be recaptured by developed countries and so the first effect in the longer term may be that a redistribution of what we have seen happening in respect of manufacturing in the course of the last 20 years or the course of the 1990s and 2000s so that is one possible scenario that may emerge from advanced manufacturing and there are certain other reasons to support that such as the view that innovation follows manufacturing and therefore it's important to retain manufacturing or to recapture manufacturing and the second there is a view that innovation follows manufacturing not all innovation but some innovation follows manufacturing and therefore it's important to retain manufacturing or to recapture it so that's a distributional effect that is possible possible out of advanced manufacturing technologies the other thing is the one that Carsten has been talking about which is that we may well find ourselves in a position in which work is a scarcer phenomenon and that again carries within it if that occurs the risk if you like or the challenge of a completely different way of looking at the way in which we organize ourselves as society Keynes wrote about this in a letter to his grandchildren in which he suggested that in 50 or 60 years time you know work would be much reduced as a phenomenon in society and maybe this will occur in the future so that's the other possibility that I think we need to reflect on in in the whole area of advanced manufacturing it's not just the redistribution the potential redistribution but also what happens in our own societies this is in other words the digitization of work