There we are. Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Porter, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Commission's weekly webinar series. We cover a variety of topics that may be of interest to libraries. We broadcast the show live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. Central Time, but if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. We do record the show as we are doing today, and we will be posted to our website for you to watch at your convenience. Both the live show and the recordings are free and open to anyone to watch, so please do share with your friends, family, neighbors, colleagues, anyone you think might be interested in any of the topics we have on the show. For those of you not from Nebraska, the Nebraska Library Commission is the state agency for libraries in our state, similar to your state library. We provide services to all types of libraries in the state, and so we will have shows on Encompass Live for all types of libraries. Public, academic, K-12, corrections, museums, archives, anything and everything. Really, our only criteria is that something to do with libraries. Something libraries are doing, something we think they could be doing. We have book reviews, interviews, mini training sessions, demos of services and products, all sorts of things. We have Nebraska Library Commission staff that sometimes come on the show to do presentations for us about services and programs we offer here through the Library Commission, but we also bring in guest speakers as we have today. Joining us today is Deirdre Lee. Good morning, Deirdre. And she is, excuse me, from, well, Senior Planet from AARP. I'm not sure exactly what all the title, how that goes, but you can explain that better than I can. But she's going to talk to us about something very big. We've got lots of older patrons and older users of our libraries more and more. It's great resources to bring technology programs and training to them. So I'll just hand it over to you, Deirdre, to explain what you've got for us today. Great. Thanks so much, Kristen. Yeah, I will go into all of the differentiation between the different names and how it all works together in just a minute. But thank you all for having me here today. I'm really excited to share this with you. And I will caveat, despite what my first slide here says, these programs, everything I'm going to talk about is available nationally, not specifically to Nebraskans. So if you're joining us from other states, you know, this will still apply to you. So as Kristen said, my name is Deirdre Lee, and I run the licensing program at Senior Planet. So today, what I'm going to go over, just a quick overview here, I'll talk about that difference between oats, Senior Planet, our mission, you know, the work that we aim to do, and specifically the impact that we seek to have in the lives of older adults. Because I'm on the licensing team, I'll be talking most in depth on our licensing program, which is a really exciting opportunity that we have for, for libraries and other senior serving organizations to take advantage of our free technology programs. So go into details of that. And then if you're interested, talk a little bit about those next steps. And then we'll certainly save some time for Q&A. So Crystal will help me manage that Q&A section as we get towards the end. But feel free to share questions as they come up, we'll just address them towards the end of the presentation. Additionally, I'll be mentioning quite a few times some additional resources that will be shared. And, Kristen, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe those will be posted to the Encompass website where the recording will live. Yes, yep, yep, with the recording we'll have. Yeah, Deirdre already sent me an email with some other documents that we'll have, and we'll post them all up with the archive. Yep. Great, thank you. So yeah, don't stress about taking copious notes, you'll have both the recording and a lot of those referenced documents as we go through. So we do like to start all of our presentations and just different discussions with asking the very open-ended question, what role does technology play in the lives of older adults? So if you just kind of think about that for a moment, the spoiler is that there is really no wrong answer. And I'll talk a little bit about how Oats really views the answer to this question is that we really see it playing an important role in the lives of older adults, but that role will really differ from person to person. We come at our programs from not from a prescriptive standpoint saying this is what you should do, but really saying what do you want to do and how can technology help you get there. It's going to look different for someone maybe who's interested in, you know, connecting with friends and family online, maybe they live very far away from their family, someone who might be living with their family, that might not be of interest. So maybe it's telehealth appointments or being able to order things online, things like that. It really is a wide variety of answers. And if you think about the role that technology plays in the lives of older adults, we really believe that that's the same role that technology plays for older adults. There's just some differences in the learning and then the digital literacy in terms of when you were learning technology, that jargon, all of that fluidity. That's really what changes, but not the ultimate point that of what technology can unlock for someone. So that's really the approach that we take to all of our programming, both when we're creating it and then when we're also delivering it in the classroom. So I'll back up a little bit here and start with you. Who is OATS? I've said OATS a couple of times. It stands for Older Adults Technology Services and we have been around since 2004. So quite a while, you'll hear our name certainly referenced in relation to Senior Planet and I'll talk about that in just a bit on the next slide here. But Older Adults Technology Services is the nonprofit and creator of our flagship program, Senior Planet. And our focus is really to harness technology to change the way we age. So we really see ourselves as more than a technology education organization. We really see us more of a social impact organization. And how can we use technology education to give older adults the voice that they should have, the voice, the control over their own lives? How can we change our view of aging as something that's not associated with frailty or decline or inability, but something that can really be excited and celebrated? And that's where we see our work and we think technology is a really big conduit in one way that we can achieve that. You'll probably see in our logo the little from AARP. So we're very fortunate to have added that about a year and a half ago. So OATS is a charitable affiliate of AARP. So we work closely with the state offices, with the national organization to really support and expand our programs. Back in 2004, we were a small operation in New York City and now we are in six states with staff on the ground, but in 22 states through our licensing program. So we're really looking to expand the access to the programming that we have. So that takes us to Senior Planet. So what is Senior Planet? We created this brand a couple of years, maybe in 2012, I think really to be more focused on the older adult themselves. So all of our senior facing programs, you'll see those are Senior Planet programs. People mix up the two all the time, not a big deal by any means, but we really created the Senior Planet brand to have something that older adults can own, they can identify with, and they're the one shaping that brand. Whereas the larger nonprofit does other work, B2B work, and this is really more focused on the older adult participants. So what falls under that is our centers. So we've got four technology infused senior centers across the country in New York City, in upstate New York, where I'm at in Denver, Colorado, and in Palo Alto, California. But the bulk of the work that we've done throughout our history has really been through partner sites. So I mentioned we had six locations, we also have staff in San Antonio, Texas, and in Montgomery County, Maryland. And those partner sites, as well as in those locations with centers that I mentioned, you know, there are many, many organizations doing great work for seniors already. People know them, people trust them, they go there, libraries being a really big one, been consistently a great partner for us throughout the years. And so those partner sites we will partner with in order to bring programming where people already are, where people are already comfortable, where they know folks, and things like that. We also have a wealth of program, virtual programs on seniorplanet.org. So about two years ago, we'd been, you know, thinking about, well, we should start to do some virtual programs soon, that would be nice. And then of course, we were, you know, warp speed into that very quickly, but we now have dozens of free online programs per week. And that really ranges, those programs range from technology topics to discussion groups, affinity groups, there's a lot of different opportunities that folks can look at on seniorplanet.org. I'm actually going to skip licensing for a second here. And then we have the seniorplanet technology hotline. Again, this was created during the pandemic, especially at the beginning, when we started doing programs on zoom, the first challenge, of course, was, well, how do we get people on zoom? How do we get them comfortable with it? How do we let them know these classes are here? So one way that we did that was a significant number of outbound calls from a hotline, but then also we received calls to our hotline, and that's been something that we support. So an older adult can call with questions related to technology, you know, my iCloud is not working, or I've never used Zoom before, I'm getting this weird error message, you know, please help. And there are people who will help them one on one over the phone for free. And so I'm actually going to switch my screen share in just a moment here. So just to give you a little peek, this is seniorplanet.org. And so if you were to share this, these are both resources that can be shared with your patient patrons right now. All of it is completely free. So we have a list of all of our upcoming classes. And if you go to view all classes, you'll see a much longer list. We have programs in English, in Spanish, and in Mandarin. And then we also have, I mentioned, we have the technology programs, discussion groups, things like that. We also have a significant number of fitness programs. Typically, those are, well, I should say typically those are recurring, they're often daily or once a week. So that can be a really exciting way to get people engaged. So we have these and then I go back to that homepage, that technology help hotline is right at the top here. So if you know folks who can benefit from us, from that, feel free to share that, you know, I know, especially librarians, they get so many questions all the time. And sometimes, you know, doing that one-on-one help when you're being pulled in a lot of different directions can be really challenging. And so this is one resource that may be helpful to alleviate some of that when someone is coming, you're coming to the desk asking for help. Switch back to my slides here. The other big way that we've been focusing on for about the last year and a half to increase access to our programming is through our licensing program. So through our centers and our partner sites in those six locations I mentioned, we have in-person and virtual programs. Obviously the virtual programs can be accessed anywhere, but that still leaves a whole very significant part of the country that doesn't have in-person programming opportunities. And especially for someone who is really uncomfortable with technology or who, you know, may be really out of their comfort zone, you know, we're starting at turning on and off the device here. That's something that's completely, you know, we see that all the time and that's nothing to be ashamed of, but it can be a really big barrier and certainly very difficult to do if you're trying to do that over the phone or virtual. Those hands-on programming opportunities really makes a big difference. And so that's where our licensing program comes in and how we're expanded to those 22 states to offer in-person programming across the country. So I'll talk about that more in just a bit here, but I do want to, we like to emphasize here how our Senior Planet training model is designed, specifically that it's designed with and for older adults. So all of the programs that we do start, you know, with focus groups, with surveys, we ask older adults, what are you interested in? What are you hearing about? What's a pain point in your life? Are there things that you want to change? And we start the programs from there as opposed to a prescriptive method saying that, you know, this is what you should be doing or should be learning. Well, what do you want to learn? Let's start there. And the programs are designed using adult learning theories. So they are really focused primarily on the 60 plus, you know, with our work with AARP, we certainly serve the 50 plus community, but the programs are designed for people who have had a lifetime of experience and, you know, who have a lot that they're bringing into the classroom and really focus on making connections that way. So these programs may not be relevant or successful for someone who's in their 30s. They really are designed for those who are 60 and older. We focus on mainstream devices and applications. We often see different devices or programs that are specifically designed for older adults, but we really believe that giving older adults only the access to those can further marginalize them. And so we want them to be able to use and take advantage of, you know, the devices that they're going to see in their local library.  So we really have a focus on those mainstream devices, applications of things that people of any age would use technology-wise. That's what our programming is focused on. And then as I mentioned earlier, we really have a significant emphasis on partnerships, not just from the, you know, creating a good partnership where we can bring something. And we're, you know, we're bringing these programs where, excuse me, bringing the programs to a new location or to a new group of people, but also really learning from our partners. You know, you all have, are doing this work day in and day out and older adults are different in different places. It's by no means a monolithic group. And so we really seek to learn from our partners so that as we design more programs, we're making sure we're being responsive and, you know, accurately representing the whole wealth of experiences of being an older adult and not just focused on, you know, one specific geographic area or one specific decade or anything like that. So my next slide here, these are the impact areas that our programs focus on. So I mentioned we start with the older adult and all our programming. And we did so when creating our impact areas as well. We did a really large survey and asked older adults, you know, what are the, what are the areas of interest in your life?  And this is what came up again and again. And that's how our impact areas were born. So health and wellness, you know, I mentioned those fitness programs, we also have programs on online health resources, telemedicine, social engagement, you see a lot of Zoom, social media programs, things like that. Those discussion groups as well. Creative expression. So we've got programs on things like Canva or smartphone photography and ways people can share their stories or their creativity. Financial security is a big one. We have tons of programming on online banking, shopping online, and then also a lot of it's infused into all of our programming, you know, the safety and security aspect, but that one really shines through in the financial security programs as well. And then lastly, civic engagement and advocacy. So programs, for example, on contacting your lawmakers using social media, that's what you'd see in that category. The kind of six hidden impact area we have here are those foundational programs. So like I mentioned before, someone who's really uncomfortable with a device, maybe doesn't have email, doesn't have connectivity at home. They, you know, they don't know what to do if they have a device or if they use a device. So those really start from the very beginning from step one and can take someone all the way through, you know, using YouTube, using social media, not just sending and receiving emails, but forwarding, replying all using attachments, things like that, so that can kind of unlock programming and these other impact areas. The other key aspect to these is this is the way that we measure the success of our programs. So when we are looking at, you know, was this program successful, we don't say, Oh, here's a test, you know, can you show me how to mute and unmute on Zoom, prove that you can do it? The question that's more important to us is, what has that changed in your life?  Or have you been able to feel, you know, safer if you're more immunocompromised and you're able to see your neighbor, see your family on Zoom?  So that's true for all of our impact areas. That's how we measure success. So I will say here, I can talk about our impact areas for a long time, but I think a little bit more valuable to hear directly from participants themselves. So I'm going to show a share, hopefully the audio will work here, just a one minute video of a participant who actually found us during the pandemic. And let me see if I can switch this right here. I see the video. All right, let me make sure everything is turned up. I've been a widow for 11 years. I am very active in the community relative to a senior theater, as well as being a docent at our Laramie Plains Museum. I was a banker for a number of years. We had old time calculators, adding machines, typewriters. Nothing like is in the financial world today. Sometimes in our generation, we're more reluctant to accept and go forth with new challenges. And Senior Planet, it opens doors to all of the virtual tours that are out there for us. So I started using Telehealth after I had a class on the actual function of Telehealth. I'm very fortunate with all of the training that I've had that I'm even able to use my Apple Watch because I can do an EKG and forward that information to my doctor. So there's something good that comes out of everything if we just are resourceful enough and look for it. So I think that Jermaine does a much better job kind of explaining the impact that Senior Planet has had on her life. And you may have noticed in the video she's in Wyoming, a place where we don't have any physical staff on the ground, but she's been I think one of the biggest or the most numerous participants in our virtual programs over the last two years. So you're almost every day in there. So it's been really awesome. I don't even know how to do that for my, I have a smart watch. I don't know how to send it from that to my doctor.  So that here. So next I'll really focus and narrow in a little bit more on our licensing programs. As I mentioned, that's an opportunity for other senior serving organizations to take Senior Planet classes and be able to implement them in person on the ground in their communities. I will mention it multiple times, but this is not a sales pitch. Everything that I'm going to share here is free. There is no licensing fee that's associated with this program. There are a couple of resources that we ask our partners to bring into the partnership, which I'll go into a little bit. But to start, we created this licensing structure, as I mentioned before, to address the need of a lack of in-person technology programs for older adults across the country. There are many organizations who are doing great work and who do have very successful technology programs, but often when we partner with folks, we would find, you know, they were looking for some extra training or they were looking for the curriculum.  And we said, well, we have, we have almost two decades of knowledge, two decades of learning, and we have a really, a really highly valued set of curriculum that has been reviewed and awarded. And so we said, well, how can we share that and really engage and unlock the potential of other organizations to be able to really, to make their lives a little bit easier? So our program starts with a five week train the trainer series. I'll say that's all completely virtual. So no one would have to fly anywhere or anything like that. It's just a couple of hours a week. But that will take an organization who we partner with through all of the ins and outs of getting senior planet programs up and running in their community. So, you know, we start with our attitude and approach to aging. We talk, you know, specifics about marketing. We have, you know, flyer templates. We have program descriptions. Really, we try to make it as easy for our partners as possible. Then of course, we dig into the actual curriculum, you know, how to set up a classroom, what, you know, how to use the training materials and then all the way through reporting, how do you do the attendance and things like that. So that train the trainer series is really comprehensive. And it's supported by an online resource we call the program support center, which has dozens and dozens of materials from our training methodology documents, you know, all the way through those templates and links and, you know, phone numbers and useful things like that, that our licensed partners have access to throughout the entire time they're licensed with us. Of course, another significant component is that curriculum itself. So curriculum across all of those different impact areas, we have three different types of curriculum. So we have one time lectures. So those are more presentation style. They'll say still very engaging, a lot of discussion questions. But those aren't hands on programs. They're really meant to introduce a group of people to a topic, to an application, to an idea, you know, maybe explore the website, do some demoing, you know, have open discussion about what are the benefits you see here? What are the downsides? Is it something that you'd be interested in? And so that gives a really nice overview of a topic or an application to encourage someone to decide whether or not they would want to learn more. We also have one time programs that are workshops. Those are hands on and they typically pair with a lecture that they don't have to.  So those workshops will typically, they have that hands on component and typically you're signing up for exploring a website, something along those lines paired well with the lectures. But really what we're known for are our courses. And we have both five and 10 week courses that meet twice a week. And those courses, you really cover a lot. So the foundational programs I've been mentioning, those are typically courses. So you would think something like computer basics, that's going to take start again, that turning on and off computer, you know, looking at the desktop, identifying different icons, how do we even open up the internet? What are different browsers all the way through? You know, at the end, there are classes that touch on each of the impact areas. So let's explore some of those online health resources. Let's try out YouTube. Let's go to Twitter. Let's see what these things are. And then people can take more classes in depth on those topics. And it says a growing selection of curriculum, as I mentioned, where, you know, we work with older adults and with our partners to decide what curriculum we'll be writing next. So it's both growing in the sense that we're releasing more and more to our licensed partners every quarter. We release new curriculum, but we're also seeking the information from them about what, you know, when we're creating things, what are we going to create next? What's new? A big one that's come up recently as the Affordable Connectivity Program. So we'll be releasing that next quarter to our licensed partners with a step-by-step, you know, that lecture. What is the Affordable Connectivity Program? Might it be for me? And then a hands-on workshop on actually going through the application online and applying for that government benefit. With our licensed partners, we seek to create a community with ongoing support and community building. So after that train-the-trainer series, you know, we don't say good luck, you know, talk to you in a year, hope things are all right. We're here for our licensed partners, you know, we get phone calls, emails daily. This thing isn't working or this happened in my classroom where this this picture in the flyer doesn't really reflect my community. Can I switch it out? Do you have another picture that we could use here? You know, we are here to be responsive and to support the partners so that we can make programs as successful as possible. And we also want to create a community for our partners. So we have quarterly meetings where partners will share. You know, we have a couple of partner presentations so that they can learn from each other. You know, we have a lot of knowledge and we have a lot of learning that we want to share, but we certainly don't have it all. And so we want to create a community, especially where like organizations can share what's been successful for them. You know, rural library to rural library might have some more similarities than, you know, urban senior center rural libraries will want to take advantage of, you know, all the knowledge of our partners. And then we do also have additional engagement opportunities for participants. So we do hope that participants who join the senior planet, the senior planet programs through our licensed partners in person, that they also take advantage of those online programs for free. They join that larger community. But we also have a couple of special opportunities that that are shared with those participants. They can become part of our supporter program, which has some special programs and annual technology review for free so that they can, you know, be really take advantage of everything that senior planet has to offer. So just a few specifics on the licensing program. It is an in person experience. I mentioned that train the trainer program is completely virtual, but it that train the trainer series prepares our partners to deliver classes where both the the trainer and the participants are in person. It's a year long commitment at the start. We run that train the trainer series and then partners are licensed for four quarters to deliver the curriculum. But that plus there is really the key we, you know, we certainly hope all our partners stay on with us for many years to come. It is free of charge. You know, we had people say like, really, what are you trying to trick me here? We did originally think we would have to charge for this program. But we have been able to underwrite the cost for our licensed partners. We also understand that many of the organizations that we want to work with would not have the budget to pay for an annual licensing fee. So we work with our partners, you know, to share the successes of their programs so that we can seek outside funding to continue to make that free, you know, forever that that's the goal. So it is currently free of charge. And at this point, we have no intention of charging for the license. Because of that though, there are spots are limited and we only have so so many staff members and you know, she takes a little while to grow teams. So we do have an application process that I'll talk through in just a moment for organizations who are interested in this. That's just to make sure that we are able to provide that really high level of support that part of the program for every partner and that we don't don't let anyone fall by the wayside. So timeline here we are currently accepting applications for the next round of our licensing program. I will mention we will be offering it again and again. But current the current opportunity we're accepting applications for and that would be to start the train the trainer series in mid August. So that train the trainer series would run about mid August to mid September to start program delivery in October. And of course, I mentioned that year license so run through October of 2023, but hopefully beyond that, which takes me to the couple of resources I mentioned earlier. It as I mentioned, the license is free, but there are a couple of things that we ask our partners to kind of bring into the partnership. The first two are personnel. So that program administrator and trainer and I'm actually going to skip those talk a little bit more in detail about them in the next couple of slides. The third bubble there is technology. So that's a big one. Our hands on programs require a classroom set of devices. Our methodology does not do a bring your own device model. We've tried it. We've tried it many different times and it can be very quickly become, well, my update looks a little differently. My device is so old. I can't update to the latest thing, you know, and learning. The learning importance from building a digital literacy and being able to learn, you know, the different symbols, things that can translate from device to device into why is my one device not working? And that can be very difficult for the trainer. So that's why we asked for that classroom set of devices. Between eight and 15 devices, our classes are meant to be group learning. So we really look to have at least eight devices in the classroom, though there is some flexibility on that depending on the size of your organization. The other key piece to technology is the internet. So our programs will all utilize the internet. And I think we can probably all attest to the frustration of slow internet when there's too many people trying to use the same thing at the same time. And so especially for a class who is maybe newer to the type of program, that frustration can really turn people off. So we do look at a minimum speed internet connection speed. And we have a technology recommendations document that's part of the resources that will be shared after this presentation that goes into detail about the different devices, the internet speed, how you can test it. If you have any specific questions on those, feel free to reach out to me. Actually, Krista, that reminds me, I'll make sure I put my email, send that to you as well. That can be a resource if anyone has any follow up questions after this. But those, if you're like, well, we have this set of devices, don't know if it will work for the program, always happy to chat and see if it will. If it won't, typically we're pretty flexible on it. We just look for a decently up to date operating system. And then the fourth bubble here is a classroom space. So just a place for the classes to take place. Of course, this doesn't have to be what you would envision of a typical classroom with desks and things like that. But the things that we look for, something that's conducive to learning. So a clean, quiet environment can be really nice if there's some flexibility in the seating. So you could do some group work, some individual work. That's certainly a nice to have. The other key component for the classroom space is a clear presentation spot. So either a projector or a TV screen, something where you could, the trainer, it's our best practice to demonstrate, to show on a big screen what participants will be doing so that they can follow along after. And in that presentation spot, you want the trainer to be seen by every participant and then the trainer to also be able to see every participant. So getting towards the end here, I know it's been a lot of me talking. I'm excited to hear some questions here. The other two resources are personnel. And so the administrators and the trainers, firstly the administrators, this person would be really the primary contact, both on the ground and for OATS. Their role would be to coordinate the local programs, choose from the selection of curriculum, which ones they're going to offer. We don't tell our partners which programs to schedule because we don't know your communities as well as you do. So we really say this is the list. Pick what makes sense for you if you want some advice, if you want to talk it out, happy to do that. But it's really up to you to decide where, when, and what because that's going to be most important to driving attendance. We get asked about how much time, and this is really the best estimate we can come up with for a coordinator or excuse me, a program administrator around two to four hours a week. We ask our partners to work schedule programs on our quarterly calendar so that we can provide the most amount of support. The quarter ebbs and flows. So you can imagine when you're planning the quarter, your scheduling programs, your advertising, you're getting people signed up, it's going to be on the high end there.  But in the middle of the quarter, things are running smoothly, trainers are running the programs, participants are there, it can certainly be less than two hours per week for sure. When we think about the qualities that our successful administrators have, these are the four that have really stood out the most. The first is that connection to the community. So connection to the older adults in the community. What do they want to learn? What's going to be interesting? What time of day do they want to show up? Things like that. But also something I failed to mention in the previous slide that technology in that classroom space, though we ask our partners to be to find those, they don't necessarily have to provide them themselves. The partner doesn't have to go out and make the purchase. The partner doesn't have to own or rent the space. They could partner with another organization in the community. Maybe there's a community college with a computer lab that's sitting free five hours a week. And as an administrator, we really look for people who have that knowledge or have those connections or willing to hit the ground and say, okay, I need to find this. Where do I start? So both from that technology and classroom space perspective, that can be provided by other organizations. We just look for our partners to be the ones who find that. We say a little bit of a self-starter makes a good administrator, though we seek to provide the maximum amount of support that we can at the end of the day. A classroom floods and you got to figure out what to do with class. Is it possible to run it? Is it not? A real world example that we've had, certainly someone who is really comfortable just making those decisions on the ground, communicating with the trainers, communicating with participants and figuring things out. As you probably gathered throughout this presentation, there's a lot of different moving pieces to this. Someone who's got a high level of organization or who's able to keep different deadlines and different schedules all in one place really goes a long way. And then, of course, someone could have all of these qualities and more, but they simply don't have the time. So that last bullet, the available capacity, someone who is able to dedicate that two to four hours per week to the program. And at the very end here, program administrators attend a selection of the Train the Trainer series. They're welcome to attend all of them, but they're not required to. There's some sessions that focus more on administrative tasks and then some sessions that are for the trainers more specifically, which takes us to trainers. So I'll mention here that for many organizations we work with, the trainer and the administrator are one and the same. And that's a completely fine model, works absolutely well. It really depends on the scale and how many programs and organizations trying to run. So you may have one person that's just kind of the senior planet person and they do everything and that's totally fine. You could also have a situation where there's one administrator and two, three, 10 trainers who are operating and serving different locations and running more programs. So a lot of flexibility there. But those who are on the trainer role, they're really the heart and soul of the programs. People come and they're excited about class and they'll come back if they learn something, but they really, what we see is they'll come back most if they connect with the person who was teaching, if they feel welcomed, if they feel like they could ask questions that someone who is there is excited to teach them, excited to share that knowledge. So trainers, like I said, they're really the heart and soul of senior planet programs. The time estimate here can really vary. If you're looking for someone who could serve as a trainer, you want to look for someone who would be able to dedicate around five hours a week. The way we calculate that is a course that meets twice a week each time is for 75 minutes. So you're looking about an hour and a half of, or excuse me, two and a half hours of programming. But then you have some setup time, some prep time, some travel time. If their site isn't very close to where they live or where they work, a little bit of data entry time for the surveys, things like that. You're getting around five hours per week. Of course, that can go up. We could certainly have a trainer who's delivering 40 hours a week of programming. It really can vary depending on how many programs the organization is looking to run. The qualities that we look for in a successful trainer, there's another document that will be shared after, kind of our trainer profile when we look for trainers. But these are the keys that we look for, that ability to create a warm and welcoming learning environment, that excitement to work with older adults.  Do they need to be an IT expert? Do they need, you know, how much technology do they need to know? So we certainly look for proficiency with common devices.  We want someone who is comfortable navigating devices, navigating the internet. But they don't have to know everything. Our curriculum has a significant amount of support materials for the trainers. So I've taught a program on drones before and I had enough information to know what I needed to teach. I've never used a drone before. So you don't have to be completely, you know, completely well-versed, just comfortable with technology. Because what's much more important to us is that ability to clearly communicate technical information. You know, IT experts can make great trainers, but sometimes they don't because they get really into the weeds. We use the analogy, you know, you don't have to know every bit of how a car works to drive it. So someone who can teach you how to drive the car, how to operate a computer or the internet, that's really what we're looking for to put an analogy there. And then trainers do attend all of those train-the-trainer sessions as well as a practice teaching session and give them a little bit of a chance to try things out before they're thrown into the classroom. And this slide here just goes to underscore the importance of that trainer, you know, the effect that they have when we get feedback about our classes. Yes, we get great feedback on, you know, the content and the handouts and the pacing and things like that. But more often than not, it's about the trainer. So that trainer really is the critical role in what makes the successful class. So if you are interested in the licensing program, a couple next steps here. The first step would be to fill out that application. The link to the application will be in those resources that will be shared or posted after this session. And what we look for in an application is really the, you know, an alignment to our mission, as well as the ability to stand up the program.  It's a good time to, if you're interested, to start thinking about who would serve that trainer role, who would serve that administrator role? You know, where might I source the technology? Is this something I need to figure out? Or do I have a couple of ideas? Do I have it already? Things like that. Once you apply, organization will be notified within two to three weeks. And then accepted organizations will go through the process of signing documents. And then we have a commitment form for administrators and trainers. It's not very extensive, but we do want to make sure they know what they're getting into, you know, what they've signed up for before they formally commit. So it has things, you know, like viewing 20 minutes of a class, things like that. So they have kind of an understanding of what they're, what they're getting themselves into. So I've got a list of FAQs, but I actually might pause here and see if there are some that have come through so far that we want to address. If not, I can kind of run through some of these here. Sure, sure. Yeah. I do have a question. Someone did have a suggestion they want to see about. So I'll read that one. But if anybody does have any questions, yeah, get them into the question section of your GoToWebinar interface so that Deirdre can answer them for you. And actually the first thing, well, the first couple of ones, there was something I was going to mention from the last slide with the licensing that came up.  And the key to this is it's an agreement you sign, but there is no cost. Correct. So be very clear about that. You don't have to worry about that at all. It's more just more like an agreement of how you're going to use the resources. Yes. Yeah. So, you know, since we're sharing our intellectual property, that kind of, you know, making sure all those i's are dotted and t's are crossed. But if any organization has specific questions on what might be in the agreement or anything like that, I'm happy to share. Krista, I'll share this with you again after. But the best way to reach me is through licensing at seniorplanet.org. That email is kind of our catch all email for anything about the licensing program. Happy to set up a one on one call, ask questions, answer questions over email, anything like that. So it's licensing at seniorplanet.org. And again, that will be available in the, in the follow up resources. Great. All right. All right. We have one person. What's, I just wanted to know, they would love to see, or maybe you do have this, programming for older adults with disabilities or vision impairments, such as sessions about magnification, screeners, et cetera, maybe even with a tech trainer who is blind themselves. That's a, that's a great question and one that does come up for us. So seniorplanet does not specialize in programming for those with disabilities, though we are as accommodating as possible. What we actually recommend, especially for our licensed partners, is to use another organization who is really specialized in that kind of teaching to do that groundwork for, right? The screen readers, the magnification, the contrasting. And once someone learns that, it really unlocks the seniorplanet opportunities and the seniorplanet classes. I will say we do have licensed trainers who are visually impaired and we're, you know, we're working with a couple of organizations to see how we may be able to do more formal of a partnership in terms of what I just mentioned, where really they're, they're bringing that knowledge and that expertise on training for visually impaired. And then the seniorplanet curriculum, you know, will come after that. So now that you know how to use, you know, a screen reader, what websites are you interested in? You know, what, what are the pros and cons of those things like that? So I appreciate that you bring it up and recommend because we don't have an immense amount of expertise there, really leaning on the organizations that do, but we do in the train, the trainer series, we touch on it a little bit, you know, you're likely going to have folks in your class who might have some vision impairment or some hearing impairment, you know, or perhaps, you know, shaky hands could be any number of reasons. So we have resources there, you know, how to change a mouse sensitivity, how to change the contrast on the screen, things like that, that can be helpful for a trainer who's, you know, kind of just encountering that out of the blue. All right, great. Thank you. See, this person is asking about how many people would need. The library I am at has a very small staff, but this program would fit as well. Is there a minimum of how many people we need to run this at our end? Great question. That kind of maybe hits one of my FAQs here in terms of how the licensed trainers are staffed and how many are needed. So really the minimum is one. It's one person and you can certainly have it, you know, that doesn't necessarily need to be one full-time person. We work with especially a lot of rural libraries where, you know, there's maybe two or three people who wear every hat under the sun and so part of the job is the senior planet programming and that's, you know, maybe they do that Tuesdays and Thursdays in the week, but Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays are, you know, young adult programming or children program, things like that. Definitely, that works within our model. Another thing I like to call out here in terms of how licensed trainers are staffed, that we do look for the administrator to be someone who is, you know, tied to the organization, someone who can coordinate on behalf of the official licensed organization. Trainers can certainly be volunteers. We have a lot of successful trainers who are volunteers it's definitely more of a larger volunteer commitment than some, you know, it's not a one-time thing, the training's a little bit longer and on your end, you know, you would want a volunteer who's really intends to stay for a while with you, you know, you don't want someone to come in, do it for a month or two and then leave. We do offer additional trainer opportunities throughout the license term, typically about once a quarter so you can bring new people in, you know, throughout your license. We often see that someone will start with, let's just try one trainer, you know, we'll see how it goes, we'll see what demand is and more often than not, they're like, oh, we need more trainers, we need people are asking for these programs left and right and that so they'll bring on other people as well. So, could be someone who's already on staff become some part of their responsibility, could be someone who is volunteer or some organizations do have, you know, some funding for a part-time hire, all three we've seen and at this point we don't have any recommendation for one working better than the other, it really depends on what the organization, what makes the most sense for them. So that's nice, you don't have any requirement, it's just going to be see what you can do with who you've got. Yeah, and that maybe I'll hit one of these other FAQs on here, the minimum number of programs we look to have offered under this program, you know, we typically like for partners to offer at least 10 programs in a quarter, our quarters create, have 10 weeks of active programming, so looking about one 75 to 90 minute program per week, you know, certainly there is no limit, sometimes you'll say like, how many can I do as many as you want, no issues there, you know, but we also understand for some organizations, you know, things happen or they say like, hey, you know, we really don't have programming in the month of December because, you know, it's completely snowed in, no one comes to the library, we do only fully virtual then something like that. So there's definitely flexibility in the application, it will ask if your organization could commit to five hours or more of programming per month, so that's again about one program per week, but if they're, you know, if you're like that seems doable, but you know, maybe not every single month or something like that, reach out, let us know, write it in the application, happy to have a conversation and see if, because it very well still could be a good fit. So you mentioned you have worked with libraries before on this, you've got other libraries doing this and how have they done it, just whatever works, I mean, all sorts of different ways. Yeah, I will say that's, I mean, that's kind of the fun thing about the question. You have the who is eligible to apply, obviously libraries. Yes, really, is that any work with or is it other organizations or is there any sort of like grill? Libraries are a good chunk of who we work with, but certainly not the only organization. So we really will work with any senior serving organization in the United States. So currently the program is only open to those in the 50 States plus Puerto Rico, Guam, and the US Virgin Islands. An organization does have to apply. We've gotten some very excited individuals apply, but legally we can only license an organization.  But typically in, I'd say, typically we work with nonprofits or government entities. We don't say a hard no on for profits, but the first question there are the programs free to seniors. The answer to that is yes. We want our programs to be as equitable as possible and that's a big way that we can do that. So having that free programming, we do, yeah, so typically nonprofits or government entities, but happy to have the conversation if that's not your organization. A lot of libraries, a lot of senior centers, area agencies on aging, county governments, those have been kind of our primary partners to date. All right, and then actually someone does want to make sure that you do cover they're very interested in the technology and classroom requirements. Yes. So I will, it's a, I don't mean to give a non-answer here, but I would encourage you to take a look at those resources that will be posted after because those will go into a lot more specific details. And again, I have those open here. I actually was looking at them. Yeah, there is this, the technology recommendations is one of the documents that I see here. Yeah. Yeah. Right now the program supports PCs, iPads, Chromebooks, and we're adding Android tablets to that as well. PCs is a huge category. So likely things can fit, you know, desktops, laptops, windows surfaces, all of that would be totally doable. If you have questions like this is the technology we have, would this work? Typically the answer is yes, but you know, reach out, happy to chat about different specifics. And same with those classroom requirements, you know, really like a clean, quiet classroom space with that clear presentation spot and the ability to mirror the screen of the trainer. That's the key requirement that we're looking for there. All right. Thank you. All right. I don't see any other questions waiting. Does anybody have any questions you want to ask? We're almost at 11 o'clock, but that's okay. We started a little after 10 this morning, making sure everybody was here and connected. If you have any questions, type them into the question section and get there to answer them right now. Is there any of these items here on the FAQs that we want to still cover? I think we've... I can really quickly hit a couple of them. The list of curriculum again will be included in those follow-up resources. And we are adding, I should say, you know, that's being added to every day or every quarter. Currently, the program is supporting English, though for our next Train the Trainer series, we'll be adding Spanish as well, and then Mandarin the quarter after that. So those are the languages that are planned in terms of the curriculum. If there's other languages your community is interested in, please reach out. We do actually use that information as we're planning for what languages to translate next. And then I... The last one, a question that we get as the COVID protocols, and the short answer is we really leave it up to the organization. As long as an organization is following federal and state guidelines, we don't impose any additional COVID protocols, you know, masking vaccinations with... It's different area to area, so we really leave it up to what the organization's policy is. Oh, someone... Oh, isn't it? Someone wants to know if Russian would be a possibility in the future? That's a good question. We actually have had some Russian programming in the past. It is definitely a little bit out of date, but I'm glad you asked. I'll mention it to our curriculum team as they think about doing those updates that can put that on the sooner side. But yes, Russian would certainly be a possibility. It's one that's been mentioned before. Yeah, awesome. All right. So I see you stopped sharing your screen, so that's... That was the end of your slides there then, the FAQs? Okay. No problem. Because I'm going to show here because I happen to have them up. I'm going to get my screen up here. There it is. Yeah, there's these four PDFs that Dearhead sent to me, the Training Environment Guidelines. Trainer Profile. And then he has whole technology recommendations document here. And we'll have all this available to you afterwards on the archive page for this. And then program selection and descriptions. And there's also... Oh, what's this in here? Licensing application. I hadn't clicked on that one yet. Yes, that'll take you to our main licensing page. So I'll also mention if you're thinking this would be great, but you're not quite sure with the timing. There is a button if you scroll down to sign up for an email list. I promise we don't send out like four emails a week there. It's really the next time that we have opportunities to apply. But you'll see this is an information session. You have attended one. So step one is complete. And so you could... That Apply Here button will take you to the application. Thanks. So that's it. So you look at this here to see what you'll need to provide. I'm not going to go into the whole form, but yes, we will have a link to that on the archive. Tell us about your organization, the impact the programs would have in your area, what area you're applying to serve, that kind of a thing is what you can expect. But the application is all on one page after this introductory page. So you will see, no hidden questions on page two or three. And then here's a box you can check right off the map because you attended today. Back to here. Yes, when we have the recording, we'll have... I will link to that license, but we already linked to the main seniorplanet.org here. We'll add a link to the licensing and then all four of these PDF documents will be included as well. Anybody have any last minute desperate questions they want to ask? Didn't look. Anything came in while we were chatting about the documents yet? So that's fine. And like you said, the best way to reach you to ask questions was the licensing email. Yes, licensing at seniorplanet.org. And of course, if we can put that on this page as well, then folks will have it there for reference. I will definitely do that. I'm writing in org. Cool. All right. Well, then I think we'll wrap it up. We don't have any other questions. You all can reach out to Deirdre if you do. Definitely look through all the resources. I hope we get some more libraries in Nebraska doing this. I don't know that we've... I don't think that we've had any do it that I know of, but I think it's definitely... We do, as I said in the beginning, the older population is growing. And definitely, we have a lot of interest in this session. So people are definitely wanting to do something for them. I know. Yeah. Thank you all very much for this opportunity. Thank you, Christa, and for AARP Nebraska, who's made the connection here for us. So look forward to hopefully getting some partners out in Nebraska and again, reach out to me if there are any questions. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much, Deirdre. Thank you everybody for being here. So I'm going to pop over to our main Encompass Live page now. If you use your search engine of choice and just type in Encompass Live, you'll get this page. We have our upcoming shows here, but I'll show you right now, right underneath that, is the link to our archives. The most recent one will be at the top of the page here. Today's show should be ready and up by the end of the day tomorrow, with all I get to process it through GoToWebinar and YouTube and have everything added to it. So everyone, it'll be posted here. Everyone who attended today's show and registered for today's show, even if you couldn't make it, you'll get an email from me letting you know that it's ready. We also put that information out to our various social media. We use Twitter, Instagram. Encompass Live does have a Facebook page. You'll see it linked on some of our website pages. We post reminders about shows. Here's a reminder to log in to today's show, meet our speakers. There's the one here, the recording of last week's Encompass Live. So if you'd like to use Facebook, if you are a Facebook user, give us a like over there. If not, you can follow. We use the hashtag and comply with a little abbreviation of our name, anywhere else where we post things out there. We're just keeping it on our webpage. While I'm here in the archives, I'll show you there is a search feature, so if you want to search for any other topics, you want to see if we did a show on a particular topic, you can do that. I will note there's a, you can search the full our show archives are just the most recent 12 months. That is because this is our full show archives. I'm not going to go all the way to the bottom because if you look over here and see the scroll bar, it's pretty huge. This is our full show archives going back to when Encompass Live premiered, which was in January 2009. So we have what we're going to attend, 12 something years worth of archives here. So just pay attention to the original broadcast date of anything you watch. Everything has a date on it. Some of the shows will be still good, have good information, stand the test of time, no problem. But some things will become older outdated. Information may have changed. Links may no longer work anymore. Some products and resources don't exist anymore 10 years later. But we are librarians and one thing we do is keep things for historical purposes. And as long as we have a place to host all of our recordings, which these are all on YouTube right now, we will have them always available for you. So that'll wrap it up today for today's show. I hope you join us next week when our Talking Book and Braille service director Gabe Kramer will be with us to talk about things going on in our TBBS. This is for, you're just asking, someone's just asking about people with visual and disabilities, but our Talking Book and Braille service specifically for anyone with a visual or physical condition that limits their use of using print materials. I'm going to talk about what's happening in that program that we offer. The Talking Book and Braille service is actually part of our one department, an area of our Nebraska library commission. So definitely sign up for that and any of our other shows we have. 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good morning I'm back I am going to install a shower today right here with this propane tank I would not advise putting a propane tank near your bumper but I really don't have a choice so that's what we're gonna do so I'm gonna drill it in with this bad boy over here and over here bolt it in and then that's just step one as I mentioned in the last video last two videos I had a little surgery went well this is a minor preventative type thing although I didn't make a video for two weeks I was kind of recovering so I'm back I have eaten up my whole buffer and I kind of wish that I had another buffer because the pressure of having to edit within 24 hours is you know maybe too much for me I think I like a weak buffer anyways let's begin so for the drilling part I have two different sizes of drill bits and I have these quarter 20 bolts over here by two inches so that's gonna go I'm not sure if you can see this but there's a little bracket thing on the side so I'm just gonna line this up and see where it should sit it was a lot easier than I thought alright I'm gonna open it up with this larger size we got metal shards in my fingers good thing I'm not close to it getting hot metal shards not most enjoyable thing okay let's see if the bolts fit yes point of space all right so that's good now operate under here but I want to show you guys something so that's a two inch gap just take my word for it I measured so I'm gonna have to make a two inch gap from this hole that I just made right here over to the left two inches so that's one view right now all right this is my super high-tech thing there's two holes and I'm gonna put one over one hole and then drill the other one into place so that will require this bolt and slide this can't see that too well but my super high-tech measuring system is that I need to drill the little hole right there and that one's in but I didn't mention before that I have these spacers because it's a little bit too wide so these came from the plumbing department these are called ceiling flange three-quarter inch galvanized steel so these are gonna go out like so actually going on top and add a little wiggle room for me step two after drilling and putting the wideners in is to secure the bolts to the frame and we're gonna do that with these nuts and a little tools actually these look a little too long I think I'm gonna go back to the hardware store and get shorter ones all right went to the lows and I got larger bolts I figured this thing is gonna be about 50 to 100 pounds so here are the new bolts here are the old bolts new ones are shorter and thicker of a gauge quite considerably thicker so we are going to continue installing propane tank here we go there's a good shot of it I bolted them in with the larger bolts I bored out the hole with the 5 16th drill bit and secured them somewhat they are still a little movable just in case I need to adjust it for this part here so that's this is gonna sit on what I just installed all right here we have the tank mounted up as you can see there is a little gap in between the metal so I'm gonna go back to the hardware store and get some washers one for the top because it's pretty wide up top and then I'm gonna fill the middle part right there with some washers I got more stuff let me show you what I just did here so I put the plate above the frame and bolted it in here and here with some vinyl lock nuts whatever these things are called put them spacers in the middle because the ceiling flange has a little kind of space if you can see that put washers in between and then put a washer on top and then I got it bolted in on both sides you got the same thing going on over on this side and I'm just about to drill these in we're done this tank this propane tank is installed wouldn't say the cleanest or the most professional job but it's definitely gonna work alright so the reason I added washers is that there is a little thing on top there but more importantly the reason is clearance clearance because this puppy is between the bumper and the diesel tank right here and I really don't want it to explode so the higher clearance the better and even adding three quarters of an inch or so before it was hanging this part was below and then it was sitting flush so it's a probably a solid inch higher which you know an inch could make a big difference but as you can see from back here if you have a straight line from bumper to bottom of diesel tank the propane tank is not affected so even though it was only an inch it's still it still helped out a little bit so there's plenty of clearance here for someone to fill up the tank right here with this cap there's plenty of room for the person at the gas station to use a tool and reach down here I feel bad they're gonna have to get under the bus but that's just how it's gonna work this is the easiest way to install the side of the bus was a little bit more complicated and even though it is slightly dangerous to have it on the rear of the bus next to the bumper it's still a good two feet in and I sit about 18 feet forward so somebody hits me they're gonna explode not me and by the way I don't want anyone to explode for the record


The Cavalcade of America sponsored by DuPont, maker of better things for better living through chemistry, presents Basil Rathbone in The Hated Hero of 1776 with Ruth Warwick. Tonight with Basil Rathbone as its star, Cavalcade retells the story of a man who loved freedom more than any other thing in life. He was Thomas Paine. Our play written by Raphael Hayes and Robert L. Richards is based on the best-selling novel by Howard Fast, Citizen Tom Paine. Cavalcade presents Basil Rathbone with Ruth Warwick in The Hated Hero of 1776 on The Cavalcade of America. 1775 and the martial beat of drums, the relentless beat of marching troops echoes from one end to the other of the 13 colonies of America. For in the minds of men in the fall of 1775, confusion, doubt, uncertainty. Is it to be peace or war? Is it to be a policy of appeasement and reconciliation?  And then across the land is heard a voice. Bring the doctrine of reconciliation to the touchstone of nature and then tell me whether you can hear after love, honor and faithfully serve the power that has carried fire and sword into your land. The voice is the voice of Tom Paine and what he wrote is common sense. A thing to stir the hearts of his countrymen as nothing else would stir them in a hundred years. But if you say you can still pass the violations over, then I ask, have your house been burned? Your property destroyed? Your wife and children destitute? Have you lost a parent or a child? If you have not, then you are not a judge of those who have. But if you have and can still shake hands with the murderers, then you are not worthy of the name of husband, father, friend or lover. You have the heart of a coward and the spirit of a sycophant. The home of George Robodeau in the Philadelphia of 1775 was much like any American home in time of crisis. The debates, the questions, the arguments, the voices of the weak and of the strong. And the debate tonight in the home of George Robodeau, as in a hundred thousand homes throughout the land, is on Tom Paine's common sense. With ol' Robodeau was his niece Irene, her young brother Jamie, and an admirer, Mr. Jackson. Isn't your objectives imposed on Mr. Robodeau? It's the method. And who isn't Mr. Jackson? Blood shed, burning and pillage throughout the whole countryside. But it's gone too far to back up now. It wouldn't have. If it weren't for men like Tom Paine, where the man's blood thirsty? Tom Paine? Why, he's the kindest, gentlest man who ever lived. You know this Tom Paine? Yes, we know him. Irene knows him perhaps as well as anyone ever can. He's a strange fellow. Arrival, Irene? Hardly that, I should say. I admire him. Who could help but admire him? He's got the courage to speak the truth. And that's more than could be said for a lot of our fancy friends. Jamie, darling, please. Don't care. It's true. And what Mr. Paine wrote is true. We've got to fight. And the sooner we all find it out, the better. I know, dear. Perhaps someone will have to fight, but it's just that I hate to hear you talk that way. You're my little brother.  And if I'm old enough to get married next week, I'm old enough to say what I think. Well, wonder who that could be. Were you expecting someone, Irene? Well, I did. Mr. Thomas Paine, sir. Tom, come in. Come in. Yes, sir. But it must be only for a moment. Good evening, Irene. Jamie. Good evening, Tom. This is a friend of mine, Mr. Jackson, Mr. Paine. Well, you do, Mr. Paine. We were just speaking of you. Not too unkindly, I hope. Can't you stay a while, Tom, or are you off somewhere again? I must be, I'm afraid. I wanted to pay my respects and say goodbye to you all. Well, Tom, where are you going? To New Jersey. To join Washington's army. The army? Oh, Tom. Are you surprised, Irene? No. I don't think I am. Mr. Paine, why must it be this way? Why must there be armies in a ravaged countryside and sorrow in every home? Because, sir, a while men may be reasonable, tyranny is not. Mr. Paine. Yes, Jamie? Will we? Will we win? Jamie, when a man has born hunger and humiliation and oppression until he can bear it no longer, when the wrath of a plain peace-loving people is at last kindled into flame under a tyrant's lash, nothing under heaven can stand before it. It will burn and devour and rage until the evil that provoked it is consumed and out of it will rise a vision. A way of living among men. Yes, Jamie. We will win. Yes. Now I know we will. Well, I've talked too much again. Forgive me. It's late. God be with you, Tom. Come back and see us. I shall. Goodbye to you all, Mr. Jackson. Good day, sir. Mr. Paine. Yes, Jamie? I'm going with you. No, no, my Lord. I don't care what you say. If it's worth talking about, it's worth fighting for. Jamie, don't... don't you want me to come? Jamie, you are to be married next week. Yes. Marry her then. Talk it over with your wife and with Irene. Irene and your uncle. And think very seriously what it means. Then if you still want to come, we'll all be waiting for you. Yes, sir. Good night again. Good night, Tom. Good night. Good night. I'll see you to the door, Tom. Thank you. Well, Tom. Goodbye, Irene. Tom, before you go. Yes.  Irene. Oh, my darling. Oh, Tom, why must it be like this? You've done enough. No one could expect more of you than you've done. You heard what Jamie said. Yes. And I heard what you answered him. You told him to marry. I don't pretend to demand of everyone what I demand of myself. Perhaps it's because I'm a woman. And a woman thinks of the future, Tom. A future life. Irene. There can be no future life unless men are willing to die for it. Tom, pain. Come in, man. Come in.  George, I've got to have a hundred pounds of paper stock. There's a pamphlet I've misprint. And no print will touch it unless I supply the paper. Tom, when did you eat last night? I don't know. Two days ago, I think. Will you buy me the paper stock? Two days, you think? Are you mad? Will you buy me the paper stock? Irene. Yes, Uncle? It's Tom pain. Get some hot food. Tom, you're back. Irene. He'll stay with us for a few days, Irene. Can't you understand, man? Philadelphia's threatened. That pamphlet of mine has got to rally the whole people now.  We're near the end of everything. Buy me that paper. Uncle, please.  Robo-dough. I've come a long way. Maybe I am a little sick, too, but what's that compared with what's happening in the snow on the Delaware? We're so close to the end, man. We can't lose now. We mustn't. Pain, I... All right, I'll get you your paper now. Sometimes you... Well, stay here with Irene. I'll go see a written house. Tom, tell me how's Jamie. We've heard not a word. Oh. I'm a thoughtless wretch, Irene. I might have known you wanted some use of Jamie. He's well. Truly. Far better than some thousands of other poor devils. The retreat must have been a terrible thing. I... All ruin and blood in the churned-up snow. Common sight. So was the one of grown men weeping. That was the hardest sound of their, Irene. Grown men crying. God, an army, an army rotting down to 800 men and people still eating and sleeping and laughing. Tom, you're ill. Why don't you stay here and rest? Here? In the same house with you? Yes, in the same house with me. Would you so entrap me, then, Irene? Come away with me now, Tom. You've done enough. There's still time for us. Irene, will you believe me if I tell you that there's nothing on this earth I'd rather do if I but had the choice? Then why not, Tom? No, Irene. There's too much to do yet. There's a war that's part of my making and there's a crisis, a crisis now. Do you think a pamphlet will stop it? I don't know. A man does his best, that's all. And writing's the thing I do best of all. These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will in this crisis shrink from the service of their country that he who stands it now deserves the thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Yet, we have this consolation with us that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. Or let it be told to the future world that in the depths of winter when nothing but hope and virtue could survive that the city and the country, alarmed at one common danger, came forth to meet and repulse it. I call not upon one, but upon all. And Philadelphia did not fall and throughout the land the cause held that winter in spring. And in the hot summer of 1778 another American army waited near Brandywine Creek waiting for the king's men. But the farmers and the shopkeepers still made mistakes and blunders. In General Howe's men slashed the new army to pieces, cut it and routed it. The road to Philadelphia was open to the enemy and in the city there was panic. Even old George Robodeau is preparing to flee the city with his pamphlet. If you can't get it in the cart, leave it for heaven's sake. George Robodeau, what's got into you, man? We're packing up and leaving. That's what? But you can't go. We can hold the city. Leave us alone, Payne. We know what we're doing. We've got to go, don't you see, Tom? You expect us to stay and swing from the gallows? Tourist at the backs and red coats in front of us? Jackson, our city's the best fortress in the world. Every street's a death trap. We can break the enemy like a stick of wood. Why, you mad? Even Congress is pulled out. A thousand men. That's all. We need a thousand men.  Come along. Come on. All right, then run for cover.  Let it go to Irene. Tom, Tom, listen to me. What is it, Irene? Look at me. Look at my face, Tom Payne. I'll never ask it again. Come away with me out of all of this. Irene? No. Not even for you. For me? When have you ever thought of me? You've taken my brother from me. You've taken yourself and now my home's a battlefield. Oh, Tom, can't we have just a little happiness before it's too late? Irene, look at me. You see me what I am, you know me. A pamphleteer, a revolutionist. What kind of happiness would you have with me? Can't you let me be the judge of that? Come, come, Payne. Hi, Ben, here. What is it? Hattori Marv has been through the north part of town. They got an old man. We got there too late. Peters was his name. He was with Washington on Long Island. Peters, I'll remember him well. We want to give his poor old bones a decent burial before the Redcoats get here. Will you help us? Where is he, Ben? Out toward the Baltimore Pike. Tom! Goodbye, Irene. Will you leave me now just to bury one poor old continental soldier? I must, Irene, for in that grave but for the grace of God, lies someone that you love. Will you say something, Tom? A speech? It's a lonely place down there till Judgment Day. Well, this old man died for something that was new in his lifetime. A thing called liberty. When he was a young man, it was only a dream. And when he came to give his life for the dream of his youth, he had not much more life left to give. Yet perhaps he cherished it the more for that. Certainly he could not have given more. And in that gift, John Peters will live. For men in centuries to come who do not even know his name, will do him honor as they honor liberty. Lower him now, Ben. Cover his grave. You are listening to the Cavalcade of America sponsored by DuPont and tending Basil Rathbone in The Hated Hero of 1776. Ruth Warwick plays opposite Mr. Rathbone. The time of our play is the darkest days of the war for American independence. When the cause of liberty seemed lost, Philadelphia was in the hands of the enemy. Bitterly, Tom Payne again took the long road out of Philadelphia searching for a shattered army. And in the winter he found them freezing to death at Valley Forge. He began asking for your Tom as soon as he heard you were in Valley Forge. Jamie Roberts. He took a bed of fortnight ago and he's been lying in that filthy hovel ever since. There's no one else to take him, Tom. A child. I, a child. And a soldier. Does he know about the city, Ben? You'll forgive me, Tom. You see, his wife was there. I know. What good would the truth have done? I told him we've got Philadelphia back. I understand. Here, this is it. There's a bit of a lighted candle on the ledge inside the door. Thank you, Ben. I'll do whatever I can for him. Tom. Yes? Don't let him know. I won't. Don't let me, laddie. Tom Payne, fresh out of Philadelphia. How are you feeling, Jamie? Poorly. Do you see my wife? She's doing fine, Jamie. I, uh, I had quite a chat with her before I left the city. A bit lonely, I, but, uh, she'll be glad to see you when you get home. If I ever get home. Why, are you mad, Jamie? We'll both be back before the month of February blows itself out. What's inside my chest says different, Tom. No, it's hot. Hot. Lie still, Jamie. Lie still.  Hmm? How is Irene? Irene is well. Will you marry her, Tom? One day. Perhaps one day. Yes, Jamie? Will you, will you write a letter? Surely, Jamie. Here I have it. And there's a bit of paper. And there's a bit of paper in the pockets. Well, now, what will you say? I, I don't. My dearly beloved wife, in the light of a candle, thinking of you. And I can see you. Clearly is a picture. Standing there before the little glass, combing your long brown hair.  I'll be back. Was a short candle. A bit of a thing. Burned out on you, eh? I burned out on me. How's the lad? Dead. He is so rest easily. Will you come out, Tom? How can I? He's still holding my hand. And it's like all the dead in this war holding it. How can I leave go, Ben? How can I leave go? But in the spring, the plough boys and the shopkeepers flocked to the encapement at Valley Forge. And the 4,000 starved veterans, 12 to 12,000 men. And at Monmouth, Washington and the Continental Army smashed the king's men. Back to Philadelphia, road Tom Penn. Back with a heavy heart to the home of his old friend, George Robodeau. Is this the house, Tom? This is the house, Ben. Will you belong? I'd like to hope I shall, but I hardly think so, Ben. Perhaps it would be better that I wait outside. I didn't want to ask you. I know. I'll be here about somewhere. Thank you, Ben. Miss Irene at home? Miss Irene? Yes, Mr. Robodeau's niece. Yes, sir. This way, if you'll please. Mr. Thomas Penn. You did come back. Did you think I would not, Irene? Tom, what of Jamie? I came to tell you that, Irene. He's dead. He was a good soldier. He died as a soldier should. And there was no word of him for so long. I knew. Tom, he was only a child. I'm sorry that I had to come to you with news like this. You had had to happen from that first day, when he wanted to go with you. Do you blame me, Irene? No, Tom, I don't blame you. Not any longer. We've all changed in these years. Changed. Been hurt and learned. Now I know you were right. We can't all see the truth in the same instant, Irene. Tom, do you remember Frank Jackson? Frank Jackson? Yes, he wanted you to marry him. He changed too, Tom. He joined the militia after we lost Philadelphia. He fought at Monmouth. He admires you very much. He's very kind. Perhaps one day I shall see him and can say so. Tom, I married him. Married?  It was the only way I knew to cling to life. In the midst of all the horror, it was like the promise that you and yourself were fighting for. That life can never end. That men can never die. I had to have that promise, Tom. Do you love him? Yes. I think I do. Irene, I can't stay. Tom, please, please don't condemn me. How could I condemn you? Then you'll come back to see us soon? Yes, of course, of course. Oh, Tom. Goodbye, Irene. Goodbye, Tom. And God bless you both. As you thought. In a way, Ben, yes, in a way. Well, come and have a drink with me in any case. No, Ben, I'll be off. Off? We're two men at this time. I don't know, maybe near, maybe far. You mean you're going away, Tom? It's all over now, Ben. The serious people's now. There's nothing as the revolution's all but one, Ben. Nothing can stop it now. There'll be no more valley forges, no more retreats. Our liberty's won. Who needs a pamphlet here now? But, Tom, Tom. And the world's a wide place, room enough to find a home in. But your home's here, Tom. You've said it yourself where freedom is. No, Ben, that's not what I said. Where freedom is not. There is my home. Thank you, Basil Rathbone. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Rathbone will return to the microphone in just a few moments. Meanwhile, here is Gain Whitman with a message from DuPont. Tom Payne used quill and paper to convey the truth to the people of his time. Today, our enemies are learning the indisputable truth with the aid of science. News dispatches from neutral Switzerland tell of growing disillusionment inside Nazi Germany. For instance, quote, with amazement, the people realize they have been systematically misled by the Nazi party, unquote. One way they are learning is through photographs. Our planes or the British make a bombing raid. The German propaganda department says we didn't hit anything, but the next day our planes fly over the Reich and drop thousands of tiny photographs. Photographs that show the actual damage. The Nazis may tell lies, but our photographs tell the truth. People in faraway corners of Germany learn what has happened to Hamburg and Cologne because we show them these pictures. The camera in this war has become a weapon of increasing value. Cameras used in modern war planes must be able to take pictures while traveling through the air at the terrific speeds attained by military aircraft today. They must be able to operate at temperatures around 60 degrees below zero and withstand changes in pressure, temperature and humidity as the photography planes dodge up and down through clouds and changing weather. German and Italian cities are photographed in broad daylight. At high noon, in fact, when shadows are least bothersome. Maps showing every street and house can be prepared from the photos. Clean, sharp color photographs are made today from as high as 30,000 feet. From three miles up, pictures have been taken which are so clear that motorcycle troops on the roads can actually be counted. Using special film and equipment, pictures by invisible light, photographs can be made which show mountain ranges more than a hundred miles away. Aerial photographers make these sensational long shots by using film treated with dyes which make the emulsion sensitive to the red rays in sunlight. Photographs can even be made over enemy territory on the blackest night by dropping giant parachute flares that lighten entire city. Moving picture cameras attached to fighter planes record the machine gun and cannon bursts blasting enemy planes, locomotives and sea-going craft. Such pictures are used in instructing new pilots in dogfighting and strafing. Both the Army and the Navy are using many thousands of feet of DuPont film in wartime and peacetime. One of the DuPont, better things for better living through chemistry. Of the many peacetime products made by DuPont, one that is still available to the public is speed-easy wall paint. In these days when time is so precious, redecorating can be done more quickly, easily and economically by using DuPont speed-easy wall paint. Speed-easy is quicker because it dries in an hour. Easier because it goes on so fast with brush or handy roller. It is economical because one coat covers soiled walls or dingy wallpaper. This falls save time and money with speed-easy made by DuPont. And here is the star of tonight's cavalcade, Basil Rathbone. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Tonight's plays serves to remind us of man's long, bitter fight for freedom. Just as that ragged Army of the Revolution spent its blood and substance for precious liberty, we today are fighting to perpetuate that freedom. Our problems today in Waging War are much the same as the problems in the days of Tom Payne. And the need for working together is even greater. Let's put over the third war loan. Call your local radio station and buy a war bond right now and an investment in liberty. Thank you. Next week, cavalcade brings you another popular star of the screen, John Garfield, in an original radio play based on the landing operations under fire of the United States Coast Guard in the invasion of Sicily. It is called Continue Unloading and its hero is not a soldier, sailor or a marine, but a Coast Guard photographer. 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very much understand the sacrifice and the situation of staying away from families for long periods of time and especially the sacrifice that the families, the wives and children and mothers and fathers are making in this. This is still an unfortunate situation in the world where every border has to be guarded. This 1947, when we got this out of, rested it out of foreign powers and got it in our own hands, I think we were too excited about this idea of freedom. And we did not understand what territory means. When I say this, in the running of a nation, usually most nations, unless they were broken up by somebody else, most ancient nations are formed on the basis of geographical features. But we broke up in a hurry and we put lines which are very difficult to guard. And above all, we cut off trade routes which we have been using for thousands of years. We have been trading with Damascus, Jerusalem, Greece, Rome for thousands of years through these routes and we cut that off on the western border and the eastern routes have been on forever. We cut that off on the eastern border and we made a nation, somewhere we were too excited about the idea of freedom, not really looking at the making of a nation. We were new to freedom and we cut ourselves into pieces without understanding what future problems we will have, which unfortunately both the political entities, our neighbor and us are suffering because we did not understand the making of a nation. To protect a free nation, what it takes to make a free nation prosper, what it takes, we did not look at it in full, depth and dimension. I am not trying to blame anybody. All I am saying is we were new and we were in a hurry. In many ways the troubles of our armed forces are related to this, the kind of terrains we have placed them in without reason, in plain open land sometimes. So as your commander was saying, you are in minus fifteen degrees, take the centigrade and fifty-two degrees centigrade in Rajasthan, extreme conditions, apart from that staying away from families. Staying away from families in the past, it was not so much of a problem because almost any man who was active either in business or in anything, stayed away from families for long periods of time. But today because of cell phone and Facebook and Twitter, you are guarding the border with your family right behind you, which is tough. They have come very close to the border, your family, which is tough. Because when you are doing certain type of jobs, not only soldiering, when you are doing certain type of jobs, your women and children should not be around you. You cannot do that job well. It will bring so much concern and fear that you cannot do the job well. This is the modern life that they are everywhere, every five minutes they can call you. There are issues like this, this is the trouble of the modern times, but at the same time it is also so less for the families that they can be in touch with you. But I can imagine what will happen to the families and to you. Suppose there is some kind of action, at that time if you turn on your cell phone and let them hear the gunfire, this is going to be a disaster. I really don't have a solution for that.  Keeping your chemistry in balance so that you can handle these things is possibility. But for this modern day communications, I would say excessive communication, not just for the soldiers, for everybody, too much of communication is a bit of an issue. But we have to learn to deal with it. But I feel this is first generation of soldiers having this level of communication, maybe in other five, ten years they will learn to handle it because you can't cut it off.