Hello, everybody. We're back. And we have our third with us again. Regular thing, right? Kelly, you gonna hang out with us or what? Hopefully, yeah, I'd like to keep my spot. Heck yeah, on the Eiffel Tower. You look good there. Yeah, we don't know what the background is. We think it might be bottom of the Eiffel Tower or whatever. There's a Latin inscription.  So we decided. Yeah, I would advise against summoning. I don't think anyway. Another another Friday of like front and front and frivolity with recovery concepts and all kinds of good stuff with me as always is Lauren, Lauren Wave. Just so everybody knows that that's Frankie below me. Hey, Kelly, how you doing? Hi. Yep. Both working therapists in the sunny state of California, specializing in OCD and anxiety disorders. All right. And it's raining. It's raining here. It's raining. All right. It's raining in New York once a year or is it snowing? We have snow last night. It's raining today, though. Oh, slush. So now you have slush. Delightful. Yeah. And if anyone's joining from either Kelly or my pages, this right here is Drew Linsolata. He's awesome. And he is actually in the midst of studying to become a licensed therapist in the state of New York City. Are no, what? That would get you lynched here. Yeah, run out of the state in the city for that.  Don't tell I messed it up. Oh, no, the bag man. It's my cold. I lived in New York City for a year. I just, you know, anyway, the point Walter is that Drew is going to be a therapist in New York. And he's wonderful. And he's already written lots of books. And he does lots of wonderful stuff on Instagram and on YouTube. So you should check him out. If you absolutely aren't already familiar with him. Yeah, like we're gonna leave and Kelly to do her or Lebowski. That might be all that I got today. Well, we'll see. Well, we and royal way. Anyway, today, we thought we would talk about last time the three of us got together in the conversation, the abstinence violation effect. Is that what it is? That's what it is. And, you know, us being nerdy about the sort of stuff I had to key into that because it seems so interesting. So Lauren, you're the one that sort of threw it in there. What is that? And how we're gonna relate that today? Yeah, so it's generally brought up in the context of recovery from substance use disorder. And oftentimes the goal of recovery from substance use disorder, though not always, but sometimes oftentimes abstinence is is the goal. Which in many ways, it's not different from what we're talking about here with OCD and anxiety disorders. The goal is in many respects to abstain from safety behaviors and or compulsions, depending on which disorder we're talking about. And so when the idea in the substance use disorder realm is that when somebody violates their abstinence, ie uses drugs, drinks, when they're intending to abstain on going, there's oftentimes something called the abstinence violation effect that occurs. I have encyclopedia.com right here to enlighten us, which says the abstinence violation effect occurs when an individual having made a personal personal commitment to abstain from using a substance, or to cease engaging in some other unwanted behavior has an initial lapse whereby the substance or behavior is engaged in at least once. Some individuals may then proceed to uncontrolled use. The abstinence violation effect occurs when the person attributes the cause of the initial lapse, the first violation of abstinence to internal stable and global factors within like lack of willpower or the underlying addiction or disease. And so the idea here is we wanted to talk about what happens when when somebody does a compulsion or does a safety behavior after after a period of resisting and then goes, well, screw it. I've already messed it up. I might as well keep going. Yeah. And and chaos ensues. Yeah, that's a pretty common theme. That is the excuse me before we hit the record button we're talking about. I haven't had a panic attack in three weeks, and I had one. So that's it. All that's over. Yeah. Or I haven't googled my symptoms or I haven't asked my wife for reassurance in in two weeks. And I did it last night. And that's it. I'm going to spiral now. I'm going to set back. Might as well just keep going. Yeah. Yeah, might as well just keep going. Let it ride. Yeah, but I think people and you know, it's so funny when you said that I can relate to like, you know, yeah, I've been really doing great and dropping weight. But I blew my I blew it this morning. I was gonna say I'll just eat two pizzas for the rest of the day because I might as well. Right. The working out eating very I was gonna say that's definitely like a really common to see too. Yeah, super common. And yet, it's it sort of points to the problem, I think with abstinence in those areas in particular, because it's not just saying like, I'm never going to eat this or I'm always going to do this. It's, it's not always realistic. Now, you know, but with with substance use disorder. Yeah, abstinence can can be a thing. But when we're looking at things like behaviors like Google searching, right? Like that's something that you're going to do in your life anyway. And so you're gonna sometimes lapse into doing it for the wrong reasons. And not realize that you've done it until after the fact. Makes sense. So when you guys see this like in the OCD world, is it am I throwing in the towel? Well, I did I gave into my compulsions this morning. So I'm just gonna keep doing them. Is that what you? Is that a is that a common occurrence? That and I'd say also not doing exposure work. So you might send your client home with an exposure log and they have a list of things that they have to do or that they've been assigned to do. And then they don't do one. And they're like, Oh, they come back the next week. They're like, I didn't even do any of them because that first one I just didn't do. So I figured, right, Lauren, does that happen? Absolutely. No, that's so spot on. Right. Or even like, I won't go to therapy because I didn't do it. Yes. Oh, that comes up all the time. Yeah, like, you need that's we'll do it together then in session. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I kind of heard similar things like that. I didn't want to say this in the group, for instance, I did my Facebook group, you know, reluctantly, I didn't want to say it because I am going to disappoint, you know, like I ruined it. I did it wrong. So I people would actually skip the next session because I just want to help. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, shame. Part of it. Right. That's what I was just thinking. Very much so. And I think part of it is this cultural narrative that we have that somehow whipping ourselves for making choices that we somehow dislike or would not repeat is is an effective way of changing things, which I have yet to find that to be true, unfortunately, or unfortunately, that usually we don't, yeah, we don't learn that way.  Actually, it's the opposite, right? Like, you can't recover without including compulsions, I would say. You have if you don't stumble. Yeah, then how are you going to, first of all, learn how to come back from that? You're not going to recover very well because it's going to happen regardless. Yeah. So you have to learn where the traps are. You have to be willing to fall constantly. So then you can have this road map of navigating the real world, like actually using Google because you're going to have to use Google. Yeah. And then on top of it, what we see a lot of is that then people, and we've talked about this, I think, even on here, is that it becomes, the fixation becomes, I need to make sure I never do a compulsion or a safety behavior, because if I do, then something bad will happen. And then people start to go back and forth about whether or not something is this compulsion. I don't want to do it if it's a compulsion, maybe it is. And then the ruminating and it's a mess. So really, that becomes the fixation and the point of eliciting more anxiety and less time doing the things that matter to you. Yeah. Right. Like everything hinges on this one choice or this one behavior. But the reality is like, okay, you did compulsions. Let's do it differently tomorrow. Yeah. That kind of speaks to that desire to try and completely control the experience all the time. I need to be 100% sure that I'm doing it right, that I'm progressing, I'm getting better. If it doesn't feel that way, then I start to get lost in the rat's maze of thinking and analyzing. Yeah.  Like, have all the experiences. You need them all. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Make mistakes. It's okay. Yeah, you have to.  I didn't do all these things. And they did a really gnarly exposure. And they're like, but I did this small compulsion or this compulsion. And I'm like, okay, but you did all these other intensely anxiety provoking things. So you did a compulsion. Okay, now this week we'll do it differently and we'll do it like this. Right? So it's not all or nothing. It's not all quote unquote fact. Yeah. I think one of the really interesting things in this definition too, which I like, it was kind of a surprise because I hadn't read that far. But the idea of that when we attribute the the lapse to something that's internal to us, that's stable, that's changeable. Right? I just don't have the willpower to do this or it's impossible or I can't. We see this come up all the time. That when the choice, so it's almost like a choose your own adventure book. So you do a compulsion or a safety behavior and then you can either go down pathway, which is to that story. Like, I just can't. I can't do it. I'm not good enough. What's wrong with me? I'll never get better. Or you can go to the this isn't a stable condition. Right? We can then start to go, well, yeah, I did this thing, but I'm not and I'm not thrilled about it. I prefer not to do it again, but it's not about me. It's not because I did something wrong or because I'm like, I did something that I prefer not to repeat that I'm not a bad human or incapable because of it. So like, I don't know, I see a really important fork in the road there as in terms of how we're at what we're attributing it to, like either, well, of course, you're going to compose because it's normal or you composed because you suck at this and you're going to be trapped forever. Yeah. I maybe made a mistake, but now I'm going to find meaning in that mistake that I'm a bad person or I'm incapable. I'm weak. I can't ever get better. I'm irreparably broken. Yeah, that's the part that we don't need. That's the part where I think restructuring thoughts is helpful. I agree because these are all cognitive distortions, right? What we're talking about is very all or nothing. It's perfectionistic. It should be. It shouldn't be. It's catastrophic. It's all like the hallmarks of setting somebody up for depression and anxiety without take OCD out of the picture is like those aren't helpful thought patterns. It's like, well, there's a lot of factors going on in a person's life and there's a lot of evidence that shows that you are capable and willing to experience these uncomfortable things and that you have the ability to do this. So that's why it is also so important that we work with people's thoughts. Yeah. Yeah. And expectations so that the experience is going to be really varied. It's not going to be perfect. It's not going to look like a textbook. That's life. Like people that aren't doing anxiety recovery or some kind of low it. I didn't go to the gym yesterday or I didn't do the last set. Like that's just life, right? So yeah, it's a very act like everybody's going to screw up all the time. It's what we do. So start from that premise and let's go from there. Yeah, the growth mindset. Yeah. Yeah, we're all going to mess up. So what do you do when you mess up? That's what we care about more than anything else. Right. It's an opportunity versus it's a failure. Yeah. Okay.  This was perfect and now it's not perfect and it's nothing. That's the black and white. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm back at square one too. There's that aspect of it which I think we talked about last time but. Yeah. Let's talk for a second if we could about the idea of responsibility though. Because this is one that sometimes gets a little bit dicey because people hear responsibility as blame. They interchange those two things when they don't belong, they don't, they're not interchangeable. So like in this situation that screw up in a way and I know this is sometimes catches heat or is controversial, their choice there. So I made a choice to do. Accountability you mean? Yeah. Okay. But in a way like okay recognizing that I actually was an active part of that system, I was one of the Cogs in the machine there. Yes. It's not a bad thing. Yeah. So we're not saying like that's your fault.  It's oh no you have influenced so I could do a different. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. And that like when I was talking when we were talking about that like fork in the road. It's interesting because when you start to beat up on yourself it seems like you're taking responsibility but what you're actually doing is suggesting that it's something that is outside of your control. Well I'm just fundamentally flawed. I guess I can't do it right. Like and so it's weird right because you would think oh well you're really taking accountability for that but actually the accountability comes in the other side of the path which is in saying oh I didn't love that. Oh like that didn't I didn't like how that turned out and I maybe I made a choice that I would prefer not to repeat but that like you have to have that in order to take that next step. Yeah. Or you finish a statement or ask the logical question.  What can I do differently whether they're asking your therapist or you're asking your support group whatever it is. Guys what can I do different next time. That's accountability right that's responsibility. That is and and also saying like oh okay so I know under these certain conditions my brain is likely wanting to compulse right like because there are some certain circumstances where people it's just harder to resist. It's just harder because life's difficult sometimes or all the time but more difficult in certain situations where okay we're going to accept that you're likely to have more intrusive thoughts and exposures are going to be a little bit harder right now and resisting compulsions will be a little bit harder but if we can give ourselves a little bit of grace here and self-compassion then we can say okay next time I'm going to do this. Yeah a recognition of the context is probably pretty important you know. Sometimes yeah sometimes. Yeah this is a thing I mean I've heard the OCD community talk about it more than any other like you know my dog is sick and my kids are acting up in school and I had a big fight with my husband and whatever it is and everything got stickier and louder then for the last four days that's a thing correct. For sure and with this caveat that sometimes it just happens too and there's everything's going just grand right and OCD can come up because people do get hung up on oh well I don't understand why I'm feeling so injured I don't understand why I'm having such a hard time everything is good and then that's a trap too so but yes anxiety in general does not like change it's like no we do not do it this way and this is about yeah like generating psychological flexibility in reality that's kind of the work we're doing yeah yeah even when things are bad I'm staying finishing work I am finishing my coffee I'm staying dude finishing yeah yeah yeah so I mean I don't know how much more we can talk about this I think it's really important that people understand that the streak I blew it I did there is no streak there's no streak that's right like don't don't build recovery streaks that's pointless it makes no sense don't build a streak in anything like I like to meditate and I got caught a few times like oh I broke my streak like a like the stupid insight timer app or whatever the one I like stop telling me how many days in a row I did this because like then you're going to want to make me do of course there's a reason why they do that but so I don't do streaks anywhere streaks are silly that's dumb but yeah but the only reason they're doing that is because they want you to come back they're playing on your anxiety they're playing on your anxiety head space does like a minute it counts minutes actually like relative minutes so that if you skip a day they don't you're not a horrible human no no no interesting though insight I like the timer but insight timer is a little bit you know because your stars get brighter more stars and then all of a sudden stars are gone oh shit I would god like oh yeah yeah I love that we all got different ones like my 10 percent happier it does sometimes track the number of days you're doing it in a row but it's not like anything super flashy in terms of like you know you win the the golden ticket for having meditated again today um but yeah I think it's hard because on the other hand it can be sort of helpful to get into a routine with something to set goals and to try to show up in a disciplined way but it is as always this sort of middle ground of of have and having that flexibility to say like okay well I didn't make it that day right I you know I've had the last couple of years this goal of meditating daily and I haven't met it like last year didn't make it make 100 percent of the time but if I had left it there I wouldn't be to the point where I'm now meditating 15 minutes a day right most of the time so there has to be a little there's both I'd say the vast majority of the days I've meditated right but that's because I've been willing to hold like hold myself accountable after the choice you know of like I I didn't make it happen yesterday and I'm disappointed or oh my gosh I can't believe I forgot okay well then back back to square one here we are it's okay I'm not square one but like back back to the drawing forward and we move forward from here yeah back on the horse tomorrow I think we're kind of you know kind of a Kelly you gotta know what going on but we're kind of immersed in that sort of culture a little bit too where like my fitness there are so many apps and so many things we're like and we're told you know consistency every day man every day that hardcore mindset thing that you see for men I will tell you that you know in that community like you see a lot of dudes with beards bigger than mine talking about like being hardcore man and you get up at four warning and do you reading and do your your you know 75 okay but you can't always do that and it's right be productive right yeah so a little tough so perfectionism yeah yeah that's part of it too for sure yeah I don't know so I guess you know to wrap it up a little bit we're a little shorter than we usually are this week but that's okay nah 20 minutes we're good you know if you if you think you ruined your streak or you're really down on yourself there was never a streak there was never a streak you broke your streak and somehow you're judging that and trying to find meaning in it and and rewriting yourself for that don't do that yeah you guys tell your clients in this situation knock it off no I'm just kidding there's Bob Newhart school as we've talked about of stop it right like just stop that yeah I mean I think and I wanted to call into what you said at the very beginning which is also that if our expectation of recovery is that it's going to be total absence of thoughts and feelings then we're also in a mess and if we're sort of gauging recovery in that way then when they do come back that we are going to get caught in the all-in-one thinking around for now I'm screwed forever too even though that's not a behavior per se yeah right Kelly have you got a client that's being very undue what would you tell them they're being really very undue what I do is I tell them to check it at the door usually I get kind of aggressive about it and I explain what we just explained is like that's what's actually getting in the way of you recovering you know that's what's getting in the way and we have to be kind to ourselves and sometimes I'll even assign them exposures where they're actively doing it part way you know they're doing the halfway mark yeah doing it wrong is the exposure your assignment is yeah wrong yeah get a C not an A oh I love it that's good that's good advice I like how you said you get aggressive about it I think a lot of people miss that part you know when your therapist gets a little bit in your face they're trying to help yeah I mean you got to test the room know who you're talking to but usually I'm like you we can't do that we can't can't do it because I've seen it get in the way of my recovery it was one of the biggest factors in getting in the way of my recovery so well done no respond to this with you guys do it again next month yeah otherwise yeah don't know we're gonna think about it but we'll be here so you know as usual anyway we'll wrap it up thanks you guys for coming by and checking it out this will stay on my youtube channel and I don't know if you guys are gonna put it up on wherever your outlets are but yes we'll find Kelly have Kelly on the on the bottom of the screen at the OCD therapist right on instagram Lauren is at the obsessive mind on instagram what am I on instagram I am you're you're being not anxious not true yes gotta get rid of here at some point but whatever we'll figure that so anyway yeah all the way from there you can find us all and keep this here and comment we'll I'll dragging it back into the comments if you guys come up with something in a couple of weeks okay thanks for having us that's good thanks for having us on see you in the next one later guys bye bye


You are alive coming on live. Sorry about that you guys. You got disconnected. Yeah. So hopefully you can you can leave part two and move over to part three since this is now a separate streaming session. So hopefully you guys can keep up with us moving around because we lost the for some reason it like froze and was gone and there's nothing we could do to get it back so yep it froze we'll try this again and if it freezes we're going to the phone yeah the tablet well it's like totally the Bermuda Triangle down here it's only lost entire ships in this one part of the house. It's definitely like having more like breathing moments than your phone did okay yeah so we're doing the tablet the tablet probably will give you a better picture but uh yeah so I basically when I I started dismantling the layout actually a year ago and I got the staging area dismantled and uh Dillard Mill area dismantled and it took 10 loads of my van hauling stuff to the dump and uh you know it's $25 a load and it just adds up so I thought if I'm going to do this again wait till the weather gets good and I'm going to get a dumpster this time so that's what we did so we got a dumpster and uh we have the next several days to fill that dumpster with pieces of the Siski line. Totally. So do we have anybody on this one? I think it takes a while for people to kind of like realize what's happening so Joey yes you've done a lot of work here there we go hey guys welcome back sorry about that we have such a bad Bermuda Triangle going on down here for internet so we lost it earlier but yeah so you were saying you're gonna actually give away a piece or no you're gonna put a piece up on eBay yeah I'm gonna take it's the 10 mile creek trestle okay and a little bit of the scenery around it okay and uh we'll put it up on eBay and that was featured in a video series a 15 part video series I did that shows all the way from bare bench work to the finished scene so awesome you too could own a beautiful cherished piece of the wonderful Siski line layout and I don't really have a place in the new track plan for that trestle so um you know I'm saving the bridges and the trees and the structures as much as I can but um that one I can't see any place where I would probably use it on the new layout so if anybody wants it I'll put it on eBay we'll start at a fairly low bid price and then we'll see who wants it and you're gonna sign it every piece that goes on eBay you're signing sure I'll sign it if you check um uh John Taylor if you check the first video he goes over why he's dismantling yes I can I can give you the give us the light 30 second the light version yes in a in a sentence I'm moving uh there's actually more to it than that uh but the the other thing is the layout's 28 years old and so much has changed in the hobby for the better um so I want to build a sectional version of the layout this time using what's called Toma or the one module approach we talk about it in model railroad hundreds magazine and so now I can eat my own dog food I can actually do the this great new method method that I'm talking that I've been preaching and I can actually do it myself so and I will document all of that in books and videos and articles so and stuff like this so that people can can see okay so we have a couple comments okay howdy I'm here howdy from David Dain Robert Cooney says I'm here Larry Harper says here Kyle's Chessie Chamberlain Division hello hello Caleb Kenplay says yep how's it going Brad Lowe I can't say that name Brad L goes hi from Ottawa hi everybody Robert Cooney I still want my rotary dial phone I don't know you're the best Joe from KSM M8 and then another person asked why you were dismantling I'm moving yes although not necessarily right away but I don't want to feel rushed yes so I'm taking my time taking the layout out I'm going to refinish the room but I'm going to build a second layout this time it's going to be sectional modular using toma methods so I can take it with me when I move Kenneth almost junior says much better video on tablet Robert Cooney says time for renewal John Taylor ah thank you um Ray Aslan says hi from Quebec City Canada wow wow hi you get the prize for the farthest away John G. Sackett says photo bud here uh hi guys it's great to see you all on here yes and uh get a little share a little bit of this uh sort of epic moment of the cisco line coming down like I have said earlier I started to dismantle the layout a year ago but it took 10 dump loads I got maybe 15 percent of the layout done took 10 dump loads and all summer and uh $25 a load and it's like okay I'm gonna wait through the winter and when the warm weather gets here again I'm getting me a dumpster yep and we're gonna finish this sucker up so here we are willing dummy with a drill so and then we have buck says hello everyone Brad says who's behind the camera um that's my daughter tana happy me and tana does this sort of thing all the time with her makeup stuff so she's an old pro John Taylor says New York here hi guys uh let's see hello the big apple we have William Brillinger says hi Joe video looks better tonight good John hi Bill 93 says hi from Wisconsin wow oh dot com says uh Robert Cooner still have a function functioning rotary wall phone good for you um I love rotary phones I'm gonna walk around John Garver says hello from DFW Rock Island wow hi guys I'm the one behind the camera hi so does anybody have any questions yeah questions any questions this is a good time to ask is anyone out there uh doing any new updates to their layout and have any thoughts or suggestions or what are you guys doing facings hi everyone love seeing you on the Ken thanks for all you do for hobby oh you're welcome I love doing it Robert says she's gorgeous oh thank you Jeff Johnson well thank you I just love it when you comment about my luck yep and then um Jeff Johnson hi from Toronto Canada whoo Toronto hey Jeff Johnson John Taylor I'm in the planning process with my in scale whoo in scale nice John Taylor how large of an in scale layout are you making hi bye bye bye bye all that going to the garbage in the burn pile garbage in the burn pile and no that's not an album right so there's a step up because this was um what did you call it a mushroom mushroom design mushroom and that means it's a double deck layout but the upper deck faces the opposite direction and to kind of demonstrate we're actually standing on a raised floor you want to show this is a 15 inch raised floor and this is the upper deck of the mushroom so you can see here's the upper deck there's actually another deck down here that just comes off of the regular floor and it's facing the opposite direction so this is the backdrop see a lower deck and by doing a mushroom you get a deck layout that doesn't look double decked and both decks are the same relative distance from the floor but you do have to build a raised floor and you have to build something solid enough that it's not going to collapse if people walk on it and build a good raised floor is not cheap no so we have somebody says nope stuck in a small apartment no room here for trains maybe once I buy a house it will happen oh another one says I'm a retired fireman and was the chief in the fire service would you like to copy in my cookbook yes thank you for your service by the way that's awesome cookbooks are awesome we love cookbooks especially fire cheeks you guys got some chili that is out of this world yes yes john says worked on my resurrected layout today and got all the yard turnouts flick operating today show oh wait wait slow progress online congratulations john that's not easy work yeah so uh there's another one okay I am I am RRO.com mitura layout made with sheet metal two times four studs with a or two by four studs about a year ago talk about an exercise in sharp edges and pointing metal screws lots of blood oh man that sounds horrific Robert says chef we need the dykes I'll get the dykes also known as tent snips Robert says I competed in the world food championship in place 38 out of 450 from around the world what did you cook Robert yeah 38 out of 450 that's pretty good that means he needs to come that means you're in the top 10 percent yes need to come cook for us now yeah as you can see these guys like to eat yeah yeah if you haven't noticed we're you know working on our girlish figures yeah firehouse chili oh man that's the best stuff too make you so good i'll make you slap your mama john taylor says I don't know if I want to use kato kato track although unicrack or flex track okay although the um the official way that they say their name is kato kato excuse me just just so you know i'm i'm not a train no you're not you're not but i'm the idiot behind the camera we'll have to train you nice they're right there okay uh yeah um kato track uh it's it's good uh probably for the first time i don't use it because i want to have really fine type plate and spike head detail on my track so i use micro engineering flex track um the the spike heads are near scale and i do a lot of photography close-up photography is it that stuff right there yeah that's stuff right there i do a lot of close-up photography um for the magazine and whatnot so i want really fine looking track kato track and and those other types of track they have bigger spike heads and in terms of scale you're probably talking spike heads the size of tomatoes the worst is atlas code 100 spike heads are the size of cantaloupes so it just depends on your sensibilities and you know as far as mechanically the kato track is fabulous track so you can't argue with that uh but it depends on the aesthetics and for me the aesthetics i like microengineering track and then of course i like the look of a natural handmade ballast slope too nice okay so we have hastings middle of nebraska working on a module in scale using extruded foam as base oh that's trying to replicate ken p's methodology um brad says lol probably about you guys talking about working on your girlish figure um robert cooney says it's okay you can trust me and then john taylor is i talked to my hobby shop they said i can use the kato rail oh it always disappears rail joiner on flex track for my dcc yes and then um i am our ro.com or just atlas code 80 flex track and in scale and then andrew andrew just jumped on and said hello or welcome to the dark ur enlightened side of modular model railroading i i've been party to a few permanent dismantle or dismantlements it ain't fun going free mo empowered need to take on a huge bridge and then robert cooney says i'm designing an in scale two foot by 16 foot switching layout that's cool kaleb ken play says 55 looks better in in scale oh yes it does yes and sorry guys um i have some bad eyesight so sometimes i can't read i have to really look at people's names i think it might be time to get glasses yeah so actually model railroad hobbyist magazine issue number one way back in the beginning january 2009 has a really nice article on in scale track and it looks at all the different code sizes and the different brands and i think it's probably still fairly relevant jaunta says nice just two towns away from me jeff johnson what are your future plans moving and rebuilding to a new location well all i know is that i want to move uh but we are taking care of my nine-year-old mother and we don't want to do anything to upset her health wise until she's gone but we my wife and i talked and we do know we want to relocate so i said well that means i'm working on a layout that's dumpster fodder so why don't i just tear it out now at my leisure quote unquote refinish the basement so we can sell the house quote at our leisure and then i will start a tomah version a sexual version of the layout using updated techniques from 28 years of experience and improvements in the hobby over the last 28 years so i don't know exactly what the new space is going to look like and i don't know exactly where it's going to be but it's probably someplace rural outside of salem oregano okay and that's all i know at this point so for the mra article recommendation i will take a look for sure so that's from kaylub ken play so do you have any questions for them dad um that's a that's a what was their favorite article on this month's mrh well or favorite article in model road hobbyist at all yeah or favorite video i got a question for them yeah our okay i got a question for all you wonderful followers how many of you are very familiar with my dad's train layout and if so what part or section was your favorite section oh there you go so you have to be a little bit familiar with the layout because i'm modeling southern oregon basically from eugene to south of roseburg oregon so you have to know something about oregon to know what that even means and as a modeler those of you that are watching do you model actual places here on planet earth or do you model your own like made up where you're in town call it freelance freelance thank you okay so let's see john taylor it's not nice it's a company called nce okay and then robert how can i send photos how can they send photos to the magazine or yeah robert how what kind of photos do you want to send into where if you want to send photos of the magazine the easiest way actually is we have a weekly thread on the model road hobbyist forum and that's uh mrh mag dot com m r m r h m a g dot com go there and then go to recent posts and it will show the the form for you uh the best way to send us a photo is to actually post a photo on the weekly photo fund thread we have a thread each week where forum members post pictures of either their layout or their favorite layout occasionally we get some workbench photos or some some prototype photos as well but yeah you can post them on there and then everybody can enjoy them and uh if we like the photo we may actually put it in my road hobbyist so sure so okay so john g says are you going to start some tomah modules while waiting to move yes absolutely absolutely as a matter of fact he already has no two already and if you're going to the salt lake national nm re convention i will have those two modules at that convention excellent but the first set of modules was an experiment and i tried a lot of new techniques and i was really pushing the envelope on those two modules some of it worked some of it didn't so those modules are what i call chainsaw modules so basically i use them to learn i'm gonna dismantle them as well uh and then i'm going to start the real modules because i want to build a couple of modules to figure out how to do the mating and to do a bunch of different things and my modules actually aren't just the domino style modules like you may have heard of which is just a flat board you know a flat box with track on the top that's not what i'm doing what i'm doing is i'm actually including the backdrop and the valance for the lighting so if you look at it from the side it's c-shaped right the cross section so here's the layout here's the backdrop and here's the valance so that actually makes a box and the nice thing about that box is it protects the track and the scenery or whatever's inside and then if you go to move it they're stackable and all you have to do is put a little piece of plastic or something on the front to protect the box and then it's highly movable and it's also really cool because the backdrop and the lighting goes with it and i'm using led strip lighting and i have to say the led strip lighting is one part of this first two module test that is superb i absolutely love the led strip lighting but i'm going to be talking about all of that i'll i'll show you the first set of modules and what worked and what didn't work uh and then i'm going to do the basically round two or version two of the modules and then i'll show you how those are an improvement what i what i changed to make an improvement the goal is to make them not too heavy um we tore out just maybe 10 of the layout uh in the dillard mill area if you know anything about my layout that was a piece of bench work that was 12 feet long and about 18 inches wide okay and it had plaster scenery on it and all of that stuff it was 250 pounds of bench work oh my goodness the new toma version of the sissy line the goal is a six foot module will weigh no more than 40 pounds right so one person could actually okay so i am rro.com says just finished an exposed staging yard it is 12 tracks wide with yard tracks around 10 and a half feet long 24 to 26 cars with three engines and a caboose wow that's nice that's a beautiful staging yard pasting vnsf in-scale modelers said hope you share your progress in new build in new build i've read some of the articles on toma very interesting i am rro.com again says yes have all the videos of the layout and studied it a long time ago favorite part is the operations oh and then robert cooney says you folks the layout design i think he was talking about where to send pictures john taylor i want to model the csx yard called acca yard in richmond virginia oh i think i've heard of that one before that actually is an interesting yard and then marquetteo are you going to document the construction of the new layout on mrh videos yes there'll be articles videos all of that stuff on train masters that dvds you can buy i'll probably do books ebooks paperbacks the whole thing so i have a lot of ideas running around my head as far as how to do toma and uh don't give it away the most common comment we get from people is what's the big deal modular methods have been around for decades and that's absolutely true but ninety nine percent of the time the modular methods have been used for show layouts that you take to show not for homelands right so i have an idea is running around my head of how to take the best of show layout modular methods and couple them with the unique needs of a home layout and come up with a way to do home layouts using modular methods but it's evolving the methods as well so there'll be that's one of the reasons why i had a lot of failures with the first two modules because i was experimenting with a lot of these ideas some worked some didn't and the ones that didn't uh gave me enough information that i know in round two what to change so that i can get something that's much more likely to be successful the second time around so and i'm going to be illustrating all of that as as we go so definitely going to be showing number two i call it syschi line two going to be showing how that's coming together and also this dismantling i'm shooting some video and uh i have some some tips on dismantling a layout as well uh recommendations on things so find a family member that's bored and has nothing else better to do with this time tip number one yeah right so i'll take a couple more comments um kaleb kinplay says i only have room to build small photo modules so it depends what i feel like photographing usually hold on usually just freelance but i just finished an escur found in the old ogala grasslands west of crofford and me oh that actually sounds quite interesting and then i model the vine from roanoke virginia to winston sale in north carolina robert cooney says would love to meet you i'm five minutes from where the convention is being held well you'll definitely have to come to the train show come to the train show for a day uh like i said we'll have the syschi line two the the um version one modules that some stuff worked and some didn't and i can show you what worked and what didn't but i was also very encouraged with the stuff that didn't work because the stuff that did work worked quite well actually and i was quite pleased with that so and i'll be as i said once i get a chance to um what i need is i need some space to work in so i need to get enough of the layout here dismantle but i have an empty room again to work with and then i'll start doing version two of the syschi line two modules and so once i have version one and version two so i can compare and contrast then i'm going to do some articles and some videos on uh all of that so yes that's coming robert bailey says hi from northeast new york who northeast howdy i'm a blown away by this technology i tell you i mean i consider myself a pretty web savvy guy but uh this is this is really cool it's been a while though dad just like the layout the technology for internet is advanced just a little bit so joey i think at this point we should probably sign off because we're going to have to use the the saw is all the saw is all to start cutting some things into pieces and that's going to make a lot of racket and won't be able to talk so all right see y'all later and thanks for watching


Hey guys, what's up? It's Andy Elliott. Listen, this is going to be a video you're about to watch of what it looks like in the Master Closer Seminar when you train live with me in my conference room. So what you're about to see are two twin brothers. They're 30 years old and they've been training with me. Now these guys sell 35, 40 cars a month. They're both very good at what they do, but they're wanting to take their skill to the next level. The Master Closer Seminar is the place. If you want to learn how to make three, four, $500,000 a year, you come train live with me. The video you're about to see is going to show you exactly what it looks like in the Lions Den while we're teaching you tough objections and while we're teaching you to never get triggered again and get caught off guard.  It's going to be<PHONE_NUMBER>. Get this down,<PHONE_NUMBER>. Join me at a Master Closer Seminar. I hope you guys love the video. My man, my man. Now listen, let me tell you how we're going to play this game, right? I totally had a special treat for him. We're like, this is not a treat. Yes it is. This is a treat. You know why this is a treat? Because you guys have the potential to go to a whole other level just like everybody else in here. But guess what? I like the competition that these two have between each other. You've got to find somebody in your life to compete with. Does that make sense? Listen, if you're ever in a vacuum with no competition, get out of that. It's not every time these guys do a video or a post, how do they start? Hey, how you doing? I'm the better looking one. Hey, what's up? I'm the better looking one. Hey, I love the camaraderie. I love the fun and I love this. And this is about challenge. These guys didn't get an airplane to get all the way down here to sit down and listen to me talk. I promise you. They could have watched that on YouTube. Okay? The idea is they came here because they wanted to get challenged. Okay? They wanted to see where they're at and then they want to find their weaknesses. And the more you walk away from accountability, the weaker you become. So you guys can all be accountable for yourself today.  Oh my God.  Guess what happened? Hey, but you guys. I don't wish us on most people, you. Hey, here's the deal. These guys are great. Here's how I'm going to do it. All right? Honey, take him out in the hallway. I'm going to hit him with an injection and then we're going to bring him in. I don't want him to hear what they're going to say. Listen. Listen. Hey, here's the deal. Your guys are going to vote, right? Each time who handled it better. Okay? Who loves to get old friendly competition? Okay? So here's what we got. We're going to run Ian and we're going to run Evan and we're going to put these here and we're going to run one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. Ten objections. We're going to run them all the way down and then we're going to tally it and we're going to see who won and we're going to rock and roll. Guess what? This is going to be fun. This is going to be something that you guys are going to look at 20 years from now and your GM is probably like, oh man, this is great. I want to see this one myself. Hey, I put a piece of paper down here. All right here. Okay. All right, we cool. Hold on. Just tell us.  By the way, Jim, I'm going to do one and one. One and one. That way you guys can hear them back to back. Oh. Okay. I'm going to run the same one you've already heard. Cool. Cool. Okay. So we're outside on the lot, right? 2018 tour to Camry, 30,000 miles. So you guys know the drill, right? We just had Dan go through it and I say, hey, Ursa, go ahead and ask me to buy it. Go ahead and ask you to buy the Camry. Yeah. Okay. Andy, thanks for taking on the test drive. Go ahead and park on the solar roll. Come on inside and we'll get you these numbers and we'll get you squared away. Okay. Cool. Okay. But I got a couple more cars that I want to go look at and then I'll get back with you. Sure, Andy. And I totally get it. You want to take a look at more cars. Every customer wants to come down. Would you mind being more specific? Did you find this car? You found this car in there. Am I right? Yeah. So what we did is that we just basically printed out five or 10 of them that we kind of had the right maybe car tier that we want to see. And in the past, we've looked at, you know, five or six cars before every purchase. So we want to see all of them and then pick the best one. So that's why we came here first because you're closest to us. And I appreciate that. I don't want to waste your time and I know you don't want to waste mine. You came down here because number one, my cars either got the lowest mileage than the best year or it's the lowest price.  Why don't you come inside? We'll figure out the right price for you. We'll make it work for you. Guys, what do you think? All right. All right. Let's bring your brother. Let's bring your brother. Oh, okay. All right.  Hey, hey. It's all about psychology. All right. Here we go. Same deal. All right. Cool. So we're on the lot. 2018 Tour de Camry, 30,000 miles, right? Same deal kind of with Dan. You test drove me on it and hit me at the trial loads. Okay. Andy, sounds like you like the vehicle. Let's go inside and let's wrap this up. Okay, cool. Well, I got a couple more cars that I want to go look at. You did a great job. I appreciate you, but we'll get back with you after we see them all. Yeah, that's no worries, Andy. While we were driving it, it looked like you really loved it. It met all the needs that we talked about. You remember when you first showed up and you were so excited, you were telling me all those things that you want this car to do? Well, I know it did all those. So come with me real quick. I'm going to show you exactly what we got going on and then we'll wrap this up. What do you guys think? Hold on, hold on. Here's the deal. Which twin did a better job? Go ahead. I am not going to let you guys play. Listen, you think he would take it easy on you if you were up there? Hey, I want to say tie. I said tie. I want to say tie. That's what my mom would say. Come on, tell me. That's kind of what Jordan says. I think he didn't do anything. Everything was like, I was like, I want to do something. Are you in? I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. Hey, Jordan. occupied. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. I'm in. In具. Alot. I'm in. I'm in. Okay. Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Hold on, hold on. You don't want to do? We are going to say... We're going to give them both the win on that one. If we're this close, let's roll to the next one. Alright, back in the hallway. Let's go. Yeah, we're testing the mind of how the genetics work here Same deal Basically test drive, you know, we check the car out. Do you ask me to buy it go ahead? Okay, so I'm just asking you by yeah, just to try to close and I'm gonna hit you and you love the car man I see the smiles on your face. Let's go in here and buy this car Yeah, so I first of all number one I never buy a car my first stop that haven't done in 20 years Not gonna start now So I appreciate it if we could just get your business card with some people around Andy I completely understand most of the times I don't buy things on the first time myself But we met all the needs that you're looking for so let's at least go down to the next level And let me show you exactly how you can buy this car. What's the best way to do that? All right guys, all right guys, we got Evan here I Know it's okay. That's why until you're up here and you're like, okay now. It's my turn. Okay. All right, cool So hey, so I never buy on my first stop is gonna be the objection. Give me the trouble Andy I get it and I never really I never try to make a decision without all the information So I totally understand where you're coming from. Why don't we put everything on paper? We'll go through a detailed detail by detail and I'll make sure you're comfortable and you make the right decision with The right guy today We're gonna get into this during negotiating this is what I want you to understand listen to me Just as a question. We'll get to this in the end. But look, hey, how many cars? How long you've been doing this? 10 year going on 10 years. Okay, cool. And how many cars do you average a month roughly 30 to 35? Okay, good. Hold on. Could you sell 60 if you wanted to I could absolutely sell 60. Yeah Yeah, so he goes in he helps close his deals in this company to help sells cars He helps do everything he helps create the culture they help with videos they help with all kinds of stuff Listen guys, this is what it's about, right? We remember we talked about the master closer seminar is about one percenters You know what that means that means he's a one percenter, right? But he's got a different mountain. He's here to climb. Okay, he's not trying to climb the 40 car deal He's going to double his income. Am I right and guess what that means his job is he wants to go take this back He wants to come as a student go home as a teacher when he was back home You know, you're gonna be busting your guys up like this, right?  Okay, all right So everybody's in a different place, but this guy right here. He's been doing it three weeks, right? This is what you want to sound like but guess what? This isn't the top level There's a whole nother level as you're getting up here. You don't know what I'm gonna say next and guess what you're thinking Here we go, stop me try it. It's exciting. This is the fun of becoming a high achiever Most people run from this you guys pay for this. You're sick in the head That's what I love but that's how you're gonna make more than anyone else in the world because most people run from this because fear kicks in Okay, so we're gonna get into this when we start actually doing the training and you'll have time to write it down Is that cool? Yeah, right this is him versus his brother for a minute And you guys are getting the idea to see what friendly camaraderie and competition looks like you got to have this in your store You got to create this if you don't have it you need to find it and make someone else that way with you Okay, so anyways number three right this we're gonna move quick here So so hey, I just pulled up, you know, hey, is that Priya still here? You said it was sold and then I say hey man. I was only interested in the car You just sold okay sure and I appreciate it man. We're the busiest store here in Aurora That's why you came down to our store and you found that car that you like so I get it man I'm so sorry. We sold like seven cars today, but I got an idea for you. What do you hear me out of my idea? Sure, okay, so here's the deal dude that car wasn't even the greatest one on the lot It had a couple scuffs in the back You wouldn't even like that car, but I got one that's similar maybe a little bit the price is pretty similar Don't even worry about that. Let's just make sure we find a car you love and I'll take care of everything for you God but Yeah, I have to look at their nametags and he says Colorado All right, cool. So same deal. So hey, I was only interested in that 2018 tour to Priya. So it was on the lot, right? You said you just sold it. Yeah, I appreciate it. I was only interested in that car. So appreciate you Andy I completely understand you did your research on that one Would you be interested in one with maybe a little bit lower a lot lower miles a little bit more equipment for the same money or less? Sure, let's go take a look. There we go Does that happen and somebody say You know are you sure I couldn't show you something else?  Look be honest they both handled it You I can't don't you Yeah, they made a deal he's I'm gonna give him both the win That's been Evan's whole life, you know, don't give him the win just because I did better Do you want to tell you something what I do like and that was my special niche Which is what he said and it's actually part of our main objections is that you know Hey, actually that wasn't even what wasn't even your nicest pick Okay, and he could have added that but they both kind of went the same way which is great But would you hear that he said hey, it's got a little couple scratches on the recorder panel, right? What even your nicest pick and actually got one as even a little bit nicer probably showed you even if that one was here You probably wouldn't end up taking that one. You see all of a sudden you got the customer's head thinking okay Well, where should I go? What is it? You know, what should I do? And then all of a sudden you're moving them back into the process the cell can't be closed until it's open You're opening the cell. Okay. Good job, man. All right. We'll start with him you out. Let's roll All right guys, here we go. All right. So hey and this one's gonna be a fun one. Okay. I really like this one a lot Okay, so hey, so I appreciate you showing me the car right now.  You know that this is the best pick for you That's why you're here Andy So don't worry about that let's go inside and let's take a look at what we can do for you here right now Okay, what are you guys saying? Bring the brother And I'm not gonna run too hard on each other. Hey. Hey, why don't you stay and listen to your brother? Yeah All right, you ready? All right, cool. So hey, I appreciate you showing me a 2018 Toyota Camry 30,000 miles It's a nice car. I love it You asked me to buy you and I say hey, you know, I promise another dealer a shot at my business I sure I want to stick to my word sure sure Andy and we're in the car business So you're not gonna hurt my feelings whether you go to that dealer or not a lot of the times It's nice to have a couple options I don't personally like salespeople if you want to spend your day running around dealing with salespeople like me I've got to do it for a living. You don't have to so why don't we do this? Let's just cut to the chase make it it you like the car, right? Yeah, did you like me? Yeah, I'm so I'm gonna keep all my promises with you. Let me make you the best promise It'll be the best car easiest experience follow me and let's make it happen Guys, who do we got who won? Oh Thanks, Louis. Thank you, buddy. Yeah, you gotta come back strong, bro. This is a tough crowd Okay, all right, all right, I'm gonna start with him take him out, honey. All right. Here we go guys We're gonna move quick. All right, so and by the way, do you guys likes watching this how people overcome stuff? All right, cool. Okay, so I'm not interested in driving until I know the price. All right, cool So I'm outside. I say hey sure. So so what's the price before I drive it? Sure. Sure. The prices are on the windshield Oh the price okay cool.  What's the price? What's the price? What's the price on this? I'm gonna get you the best prices beginning of the month It's the middle of the end. We got all kinds of different sales going on But here's the deal if you drive the car if it doesn't drive right and we spend all this time We get you and go through the process and then you don't even like the car. What's the point? Do you jump in the car? Let's spin it around the block. We'll make it easy for you Go bring the brother All right, all right, so Hey, we just you just pulled the car around to me on the customer and I say hey So before I drive it, what's the price? Andy no words you're in the right person. You're in the right place with the right people If you haven't seen our prices are the best online So let's go ahead and make sure that you like the vehicle first We'll take a look at it. We'll drive it and then I'll be able to get you the price And I guarantee it'll be the best. Okay. What are y'all saying? Hey, hold on. This is Ian. It says Colorado Ian or Evan You guys are really The girls want to come out Here's the thing you guys are both really good So I mean like when we're voting it's like we got to vote the best out of the best Yeah, I mean the thing about this Evan on that one had a way better body language than you Strong So the idea of it is Is it Evan? Guys listen, I'm gonna be honest and I'm gonna tell you this they're both did amazing But Evan's body language is spot-on. Yes, you see how confident he was now listen You did a great job. Your words were dead on but if I was to go for conviction, right? You'd go to give it and by the way conviction sometimes can beat skill, right? You're not telling me they got brought in the pencil last night, but they got 300 bucks. Just like that He just believed man. All of a sudden got paid Okay, anyways, so here we go. I hate to do this Hey, I love it these two are gonna go through the roof after today, okay Because you guys don't get to have these kind of competitions very often, okay?  It's actually not that complicated. Am I right? Just learn what to say and then you say it. That's it And that's why we're here so we can learn how to overcome these things, okay? All right, so this one's gonna be we're inside all the numbers on the table price trade payment Cool, and I'm like, hey man, you know what? I think I'm just gonna get back with you. I want to go home and sleep on it Andy I completely understand, you know I'm a person that wants to have everything laid out in front of me so that I make the best possible choice for me and my family Right. Have I done that for you today? Yeah, you've got everything. We just think we want to sleep on it Okay, let me ask you what's really stopping you because I've been doing this a long time You know, I understand where there's a little bit of uncertainty. So what's making you uncertain? Next one Yep Hey, all right, all right, you ready? Yeah, he fart All right, ready. All right, cool. So here we go So all the numbers are on the table price trade payments the whole deal, okay? And I say, hey, you know what? I appreciate you showing us all the figures. We like it But I think I'm gonna get back with you. We want to go home and sleep on it Sure, Andy. Can I go home and sleep on it with you? No, here's the deal I know everybody always comes in and they want to take some time to think about it think about it Think about it. Did we meet all your obligations everything that you thought that this car was going to be number one You like the car, right? Yeah, I like the car Okay, so in my experience it usually comes down to the payments and the prices is something that you think you can afford It's a little higher and I wanted to afford okay He had me until he hit me with the afford Are we always gonna ask people to pay more? Yeah, so if you ask him like are you just extremely happy with the deal? Is it you know right where you want to be the answer is always gonna be no, you know, and here's the deal But but I'm gonna tell you this he killed it on that one I know we got it on recording right here you can catch on YouTube Yeah, he's got it. He has all the copies of this because it's gonna be on YouTube The brother battle, all right. All right, here we go. So that one goes to Ian That's a win. I was just trying to throw the ball My brother Yeah, mom said don't smoke. Yeah All right, all right, all right so cool So hey all the numbers on the table price trade payments, you know, hey, I appreciate it, but you know, I don't want to pay 21% Andy I did it. You don't want to pay 21% unfortunately.  How does that sound for you? Okay, bring the brother bring the brother Bring the brother Bring the brother and get back in there Come on guys. I'm back in here. See that's ADD salesman Tell him don't leave and then they walk right out You know literally man, I can close anybody under under any kind of rapid fire, but I'll forget my damn dry cleaning Yeah, I forget every time before the seminar my wife's like do you get your clothes? I'm like I had to go buy some real quick because Stuff was locked up in the cleaners. All right, so This is gonna be the objection rates a little too high, right? So hey a price trade payment everything's on the table and I say hey, you know, I don't want to pay 21% Yeah, that's okay. Andy. Have you ever heard of braces? Sure. Yeah, so what you have right now is everybody wants to get to the end goal of having perfect teeth, right? Would you say would you agree? Yeah, so what we're doing here is we're getting you to have those perfect teeth But first you got to have the braces so we're getting those braces put on for you Then after you're gonna be able to come in down the line You're gonna be able to choose whatever car you want You can be able to go to whatever rate that you want and this is gonna set you up for the future So what we're doing right now is getting a little bit of braces put on we're gonna get those teeth perfect You're gonna come back in two years and you're gonna be in whatever car You would like at the lowest possible rate paying the bank the least amount of money. How's that sound? Oh So we got Ian on that one right So Ian's got the win Evan's got the boss on that guys look so we're running into the last three Let's just look we got one two three one two Evan's up Sorry Hey, you roll out. We got three more. We're gonna take quick bathroom break All right, cool. All right, so here we go So this is gonna be I want to sell my car outright, okay? So price trade payments everything's on the table and I say hey, you know what there's no way I'm taking that from my trade I just think I must sell my car right. Yeah, Andy I completely understand when I'm looking to sell something I want the most possible money Would you agree sure that sounds like what you want right so what I've laid out here for you is the blue book values I always come with some information so that that way you know exactly how good you're winning in this deal So Andy you've already won in this deal. You're getting the tax savings for this deal Let's go ahead and move forward so that you don't have to deal with all that and you know you got the most money here Andy come on go ahead and sign. Okay, bring the bro Do you guys do you guys are you guys starting to see the body language how big that plays out? one comes in with a little weaker body language he may beat the other because the other guys is is a softer he doesn't believe Made a shift all right cool, so price trade payment everything's on the table Cool, right. I said hey, I appreciate it, but I think I'm just gonna sell my car, right? Andy we need your trades man, and we really do think that that vehicle is something that could benefit on our lot Is there something? That's called the psychology of savage Hey, he was out there in the hallway. He got a little doll. He was poking it with him He's like you're gonna get it in there. All right. All right, so that's Evan, right? Oh He goes out we got two more guys No, no nine and ten they're either gonna tie or one's gonna win Okay, we got two left guys. We'll take a bathroom break and we're start training okay, which we've already started training Just watching the people work is a lot of work in your head to see hey man, you know what I haven't been doing that That's not how I look. That's you know, that's what I want to do, okay? All right, so we're at nine and ten these are gonna be phone. Okay, there's gonna be phone skills All right, so you've told me everything about this 2018 tour to Camry 30,000 miles right you've gone through it And I say hey, I appreciate all the information, but I don't want to drive that far about three hours away I want to drive that far. Let's go look for one local Okay, and yeah, I totally get it and local is always great too if you haven't driven the car I understand is there anything that would stop you from coming down today It's a price work for you if we had everything kind of set up over the phone Is there anything that would stop you from coming down right now to just take a look at it? Yeah, it would be the definitely the time which is why I've looked for one local, okay?  All right. Okay. Hey. All right, so I can't wait to brag about this. I might put it on my Instagram I Seen on Andy Elliot It's it man. This is going down in history. All right, so listen, so this is gonna be the objection. It's gonna be a phone Hey, hold on See exam tip play be a chess player. You know what he's doing Okay, right now. Here's the deal. We're on a phone objection, okay?  It's just too far and you trust that and yeah, I completely understand where you're coming from I myself have bought things online many a times So here's the deal you know this car would work for you right in terms of price in terms of the deal Sure, okay So then let's just go ahead and lock it up and we'll get it out to you or you can come down and pick it up Whatever day works best for you. What's day works best for you? Well, the idea is I just want to look time is important to me So I just want to look for one local and I don't have the time to be going all the way down there And I haven't driven it so much or I want it. Yep, and that's very fair I have a lot of customers that call from out of state all day long So what we try to do is try to firm this deal up to make sure that you don't miss out on this So here let me tell you a couple things. We have people call all from all over the place So number one, they're calling on the price that the mileage and how clean the car is so we know that it Meets all three of those Andy. Do you know that as well? Yeah, I think it's great. It's just time. I'll have the time Okay, so I don't want to I don't want to convince you I haven't driven I completely understand You also don't have the time to be driving around looking at all these different vehicles where he has you've already done the work So Andy, let's do it. Let's go ahead and get the paperwork ready.  Which would even cost you more time. Which would even cost more than saying listen notice how I use it We're gonna give this to Ian. I already know where you're at. We're gonna give this to you Okay, do you notice how the time deal? Sir, you know what I hear you say is that time is important to you. Would you agree? Mm-hmm. Yeah, so times important to you, right? Wouldn't it be quicker to drive down here for three hours and buy something that you already know you want? Versus driving around 10 hours locally trying to find a car that you want, right? That would probably not be the car you want so you'd settle for probably not be paying more money for it And spend a couple hours on a show and for trying to negotiate it Everything's done. That's why the internet was created. This is actually easier and it's gonna save you time You see how you can be sharp be ready phone skills are lethal Okay, this is a tough one though because remember what we don't practice on right? We don't know what we want to say so as you see him. I look in their eyes I'm very close to them and I see in their brain that they're constantly digging where to go, right? It's a beautiful thing this yeah This is how the baddest people in the world are built pressure Friction creates growth. Isn't that cool? It's awesome, isn't it? Okay, so we got my man right here and he won that one He got a win and what we're gonna do is we're gonna keep you in here We're gonna send him out and either one or two things are gonna happen We're gonna have my man right here win or we got a tie and then we're going into Let's go last one Yeah, and then we're going to sudden death with them both being here together on one injection You guys will call it out in person. Okay, or we don't even get there and he could just finish it right now All right, this is gonna be on the phone. Okay. Hey, you know, I saw how I appreciated that 2018 Ford F 150 I mean it looks like it's a nice truck. That's why I called on it But it's got 80,000 miles. I think I'm just gonna maybe look around for one with 50,000 miles I think the miles a little too high and he I completely understand where you're coming from It sounds like you've done a lot of looking around you're very educated in what you're looking for.  Come on down take a look at this one and again See it's probably nicer than the 50,000 mile one.  No pressure Here we go on the phone we're here and I'm gonna say hey So I appreciate you give me all the information on the 2018 Ford F 150, right? It's got 80,000 miles on it. I called because I was intrigued maybe interested on it But the idea because I like the price, but it's got 80,000 miles. This is a little too high I think I'm gonna look around for a 50,000 mile one. Sure. Yeah, I completely understand it Everybody also understands depreciation on cars. Am I right? Sure. Sure So if you bought one that had 50,000 miles on it versus ours that has 80 You're probably gonna get a little bit better of a deal on ours and either way within a couple say years You're probably gonna get a hundred hit a hundred thousand miles 90 80 Say a hundred thousand. It's all gonna be worth the same amount of money in the end Why not pay for a better deal right up front Andy? Okay? I'm gonna ask you guys. Do we have Sudden death come my son All right, no, no, no, no, no right here. We're both gonna have both of them right here Hey, this is gonna be it and we're gonna take a break but this will be the determining factor, right? Okay guys, I'm gonna let I'm gonna let You know what I'm gonna start with something simple. We're gonna see if you make cracks. You ready you ready, right? Hey, you show me the car appreciate it. I like it. You've asked me to buy it I say I didn't think about it. Yeah, cool. Andy. I completely understand I have to think about most of the things that I do but come inside Let me give you some more information so that we can make sure that you're making the right decision when you're ready Okay. Hey, I need to think about it. Well, Andy everybody has to think about the situation I'm gonna make sure that you make your decision with the right guy Why don't I just provide you all the information so that way if you do have to leave you already have all the information you need Yeah, Andy I completely understand how long you've been married after four years Yeah, I'm sure that she trusts you and I'm sure she's well aware of you being you here to purchase a car So let's go inside. Let's figure out everything so you can give her all the information so that you guys can Make the best decision as a family. Okay. I've talked to my wife. Andy. How long you've been married for three years? Congratulations, man. It's better to ask for forgiveness than permission, man Listen, we got some training we got it. We got to do some training. Listen, by the way, would everybody agree? Hold on everything that we've done. Does this help you guys with training? You see what I mean guys? I'm not a slide show guy I'm not a slideshow guy. I'm not interested in showing you all the slides and then when you go home Has anybody gotten tired yet? Think about it, man. When's the last time you you're bitten guys? You've been in here for an hour and a half training Does anybody feel like you've been an hour and a half feel like you've been here for five minutes You know what that means that means it's good for your soul. This is what your body has been thirsty for You know what it's like when you're dehydrated and then you get a bottle like a gallon of water and you squirt some Mio in it and you start drinking it and you're just like The body's like I needed that your body has been needing this But it's not about me telling you how to overcome every one of them and you writing it down It's about us taking real people right and it's about us just beating on them a little bit and guess what did they do a great job? We're in we're in sudden death.  Hey, I got some broken hearts in right now I people have gotten emotionally attached to him and they've gotten emotionally attached to him Hey, here's the deal whatever it is look no range over for you Louis Hey, guess what happens. We'll call it a tie because they're both bad asses


Welcome back to another video guys. This is my first official workout in my new home garage gym And obviously I want to do some squats because usually when you're at the gym Squadrics are usually taken for guys doing bicep curls And I'm just getting a lot of people do squats and now I finally have time to spend more time on my legs because they need a Lot of you know of my attention because I want to grow them So today I want to talk about the five exercises you have to do if you want to grow your legs They obviously after the warm-up we want to do and we'll start with the compound movement the back squat Um, I usually do at least two to three warm-up sets The first one is just the bar and then I slowly increase the weight and then we go pretty heavy So number one the back squat because if you haven't seen safety straps before these are super important Especially when you work out at your home gym or garage gym because nobody else is there So if you fail, what do you do, right? So, um, as you can see over here I just demonstrate one rep and I cannot finish that rep So what do I do? I just squat a little deeper and go out of there And then basically you can re-rack it and you're good to go As you can tell I'm actually doing the workout. I'm sweating we're in California right now And it had what was it max a hundred degrees today a hundred degrees and I still feel it It's nighttime, but still if garage is open But I'm sweating anyway, so exercise number two a hip thrust super important for your glutes I'll show you how it's done. So what you want to do is grab a bench a box whatever you have where you can Rest your shoulders on now What I want to do is I have the bar Right here, and I'll go down All the way up squeeze those glutes hold for a second and down We're moving on to the third exercise lunges. There are two different ways I usually do them you can do just regular ones where your upper body is pretty straight If you want to activate your glutes more lean forward. I'll show you Either way do it right here my upper body is pretty straight right and then I'll just go Or I lean forward a little bit and now because I lean forward My glute is stretched even more and I have more tension on my glutes. So here we go As you guys can tell the range of motion for this exercise is very small So don't be scared to just you know basically pulsate down there Instead of getting all the way up. You will feel the stretch trust me Number four, this is an exercise you might not expect me to do but I freaking love them Pistols it's a body weight exercise, and I love it because you need a lot of balance throughout the entire exercise I'm gonna show you two different versions. Here we go If you're not familiar with a pistol and you don't have the balance or you're not strong enough Don't worry. All you need is a rack or a wall or anything even a two chairs next to you would help you out Or can't help you out. So this is what it looks like. You just hold on to whatever is next to you and then you slowly squat down and Get back up as you guys can tell I used my arms to help myself up. So this is for beginners You know, you don't have the balance.  Whoever it is focus on that Go down slowly Hold for a second and get back up As per not least my favorite exercise deadlifts. It's a compound movement And as soon as you do it you will feel it you need your entire body So many muscle groups are working together to actually finish the movement And you can go pretty heavy with it make sure though that the technique is really good because otherwise you can hurt yourself So I will demonstrate it and write the notes right next to me. All right guys That's it for today's video. These are my five top exercises leg exercises That I do the most because like I said, I really want to focus on my legs. I want to grow them more These exercises can help you grow muscle mass get stronger. It depends on how many sets you do how many reps you do But this is another topic. So thank you so much for watching If you haven't subscribed yet subscribe right now click the notification button and I'll see you next time Thank you so much


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I was in New York City but do I say I met some Kenyans and happily introduced myself I said hello my name is Betty Muragori and I'm so glad to meet you and this one guy looked at me and said hello my name is John and I'm a lure said but why are you telling me your tribe and he said you said your name is Betty and you are a Maragoli language of tribe I'm well versed in the language of tribe having acquired the script long ago from my family my friends from my whole existence as a Kenyan really and I speak it with fluent authority there may be times when I look different special as if the language of tribe were beyond my understanding after all I didn't marry somebody from my tribe my children speak only English and my friends well they're from everywhere I have Kamba friends Kikuyu friends Kalenjin friends I have lure friends KC friends I have KC friends Somali friends and I even have an Indian friend or two but this is a false impression I am like everyone else this uncomfortable truth led me on a journey I wanted to know what is this thing called tribe really this thing that has a soul by the neck does it look like how does it feel how do we live with it laughing one moment with my tribal protagonist mash the bee out this poor man poor and the next looking at each other across a wide abyss a yawning space unbridgeable by the smiles of my former friends if tribe were a taste a sound a feeling a thing alive how would it be my experience of tribe is sharp acid on the tongue clanging metallic noises a rising tide of ill will a watchful expectation of reaching out to grab a cake for itself tribe grates loudly in my ears it must be heard as inevitable as Ugarli and Sukumawiki tribe makes me act secretly I hide myself in full public view I read the newspapers watch behind the news scan the streets count the members of the church council on and on and on I tally the number of times my tribe emerges when the appearance is favorable I smile in my mind I add up all mounting disadvantage to store in my prized basket of tribal grievance me I am expert at computation 0.2 percent of my tribe in the cabinet 3 percent of my tribe at church 76.7 percent of my tribe at my place of work I'm no longer conscious of what I do victim innocent but for the tribal designs of you others the truth the truth is revealed in broiling ethnic conclaves here secrets of the heart are safe I bring my hash hash bliss to the fall the bliss of playing victim to be mown with relish my wisely pickings condemn with glee the crumbs I feed on while others hog the national cake bubble this crap Rekha Maria Virichari Neito Virichari Nei ao