Well, welcome back everyone for this panel. So in the last panel, we talked about a whole variety of renewables. This time, we're really going to focus in on hydropower and water technologies. And you're in for a treat. There's lots of interesting stuff going on. And I always learn so much from all of these folks. So I am anxious for you to have a chance to hear them as well. And of course they all are part of exhibits in the expo room. So please, please visit them. We're first going to hear from the National Hydropower Association. And we are going to hear from two people who are presenting together on this. LeRoy Coleman, who is the Senior Manager of Strategic Communications. And at National Hydropower Association, NHA. And coupled with him will be Trey Taylor, who is the Co-Founder and President of Verdant Power International, one of their members. LeRoy. You got to push it. Is this on now? Okay, I have a lot of information. So I'm going to try to get through it as fast as humanly possible to keep us on schedule. Welcome. And thank you for having us here at National Hydropower Association. We are the united voice of the hydropower industry. We advocate for improved regulatory and legislative policies to protect and foster a growth for our nation's largest source of clean renewable emissions free electricity. We represent more than 200 members, both public and investor owned utilities, independent power producers, developers, manufacturers and suppliers. We also have councils that focus on small hydro pump storage, marine energy, wave and tidal technologies, which Trey is going to speak about as soon as I get done here. So what is hydropower? Well, at its core, hydropower harnesses energy from flowing water and it converts it to electricity. Now, many of you recognize hydra in its traditional forms, conventional from dams, which they store water in a reservoir. When the water is released, it flows through and spins through a turbine, turning a generator and produces energy. There's also run of river hydroelectric facilities, which meaning the river isn't dammed. There's also pump storage, which kind of works like a battery. What it does is it charges like a battery during the evening when energy is low and water is pumped up. And then at night, sorry, we love Canada. We don't want to. And at night, it's going to be during the day when there's more use for energy that comes back down. So capacity, where are we at with hydropower today? The US hydropower fleet, federal and non-federal, has a capacity of 79 gigawatts, providing over 30 million American homes with affordable power each year. Actually, I should also note that hydropower generates more than half of the nation's renewable energy. Flexibility. As a renewable, hydropower is unique and for its grid flexibility. Facilities can quickly go from zero power to maximum output, making them exceptionally good at meeting rapidly changing demands for electricity. So what's our potential? Well, hydro has a lot of potential. Right now, there are 80,000 dams across the country. Only 3% of those dams, roughly maybe about 2,400, are equipped with power generation. 80,000 dams, 3% have power energy generation. So that means our potential is real. According to the Department of Energy, we could increase our generating capacity by 12 gigawatts through the addition of power generation on non-powered dams, or roughly maybe a little over 4 million homes. So what's keeping hydro from reaching its full potential? Well, we have to address meaningful and much-needed licensing and regulatory improvements. The current process has evolved into a complex and time-consuming process with duplicative processes that can increase costs to the point where a project is no longer cost competitive or able to attract investment. Licensing a new hydro project can take up to 10 years. 10 years, which is longer than a lot of different energy options such as fossil fuels. And frankly, no one should be satisfied with a process that stifles one of our most important renewable energies. And NHA has called on Congress as well as all stakeholders to come to the table to work on a solution. At the same time that we are... I don't think we can have a real conversation about climate change unless we are addressing hydropower. Hydropower is helping the nation avoid over 200 million tons of CO2 annually. That's the equivalent of over 42 million cars each year. Beating climate change mitigation objectives, including the national reduction goals proposed by the Obama administration will require continued and expanded hydropower. The good news is Americans love hydropower. We can be excited. Clap if you want. That's great. Our polling has found that over 81% support existing hydropower, as well as 75% are in favor of expanding hydropower. So that's kind of a quick overview and Trey Taylor is going to talk a little bit more about marine energy. So marine energy, you hear it described as ocean wave power, kinetic hydropower, so let me describe marine energy. But first let me tell you about our project in New York City. We've been working on this project for 15 years. We would have been commercialized by now had not the recession hit in 2008. So that set us back. So where we are now, we are on the verge of commercialization. We're going forward in the marketplace, but our market is not the United States. Our market is overseas. Marine energy will continue to grow overseas because that is where the political will exist. It doesn't exist here in the United States. We will be coming back to the United States once we lower our costs overseas. And then in so doing though, in the meantime, we will be creating jobs here for exportation. And I'll be getting into that in a minute. What's interesting about marine energy is that once we do create it and coming back, we'll be creating also affiliated jobs associated to marine energy and hydropower in the water, energy, food, nexus, and also powering micro grids and smart cities. And so let me explain what this is all about and the role that hydropower, marine energy, a subset of hydropower will play. The drivers are this. It's globalization. It's the IT revolution and it's climate change. And again, I'm going to go back to this issue of money because that's what's keeping all this bogged down. It's America's short-termism. Real quickly here, we fancy ourselves as a country of innovators and yet as a percentage of R&D money for innovation, R&D is declining rapidly. Corporations are not putting money into R&D because of quarterly short-term profits. It's shareholder values that come before long-term planning innovation. And yet the world is moving fast beyond where the United States are but there's an opportunity for us. I'm going to explain a bit further. As Leroy pointed out, hydropower currently is one-half of renewable energy and renewable energy's path in the next three decades is putting it on a path to be one-fourth of the world's power will be coming from renewable energy. That's just a fact from the Energy Information Administration and hydropower again will be playing one-half of that. Hydropower has grown from 27% in the last ten years and it's continuing to grow to the points and the opportunities that Leroy pointed out. Kinetic hydropower as a subset of that is hydropower's answer for distributed generation and it will grow sevenfold in the next two years. In the next ten years, the Electric Power Research Institute says the potential for kinetic hydropower is 23 gigawatts around the world out of a market potential of 250 gigawatts. So the market is just absolutely huge. Where my company is going is we have projects, our project pipeline is lining up in Turkey, in Ireland, in Canada, in the UK, in China, not the United States. And that pipeline within the next ten years will be 1.7 gigawatts that we already have starting to get onto contract. 1.7 gigawatts represents $6 billion just for our company and that's only 7% market share. So you can see the opportunities that are out there for this industry, for this subset for my company. However, and also the reason for that is Marine Energy hydropower, its practicality, reliability and predictability really acts as a base cornerstone, if you will, for contributing to distributed energy resources. And the answer for the world, quite frankly, is distributed energy resources powering microgrids. Microgrids are the answer for grid resiliency and security, integral to strengthening the economy. That's where the world is going, decentralized power, microgrids distributed generation. The global economy is growing too. And here's an interesting statistic to think about. 90% of the world's consumers reside outside the United States. 90% outside the United States. Side question here, only 1% of America's companies export, yet the biggest market is outside of this country. The middle class too is growing. Our middle class is shrinking, but the rest of the world's middle class, less than a billion people now, it's growing to over 3 billion people within the next 10 years. And with a growing middle class, that means more electricity use, more demands for clean energy and water. So you can see where the opportunities are. So let me share something else with you. And I also participate at the White House Small Business Council. And on the White House Business Council, this is something we've learned. All the companies there, we did a poll. 70% to 80% of the people we employ is for the purpose of exporting our technologies and services. This is not jobs leading America. It's jobs being created in America for technical services, like building in incremental hydropower behind dams in Turkey that aren't currently producing power. That's the business. And by doing that overseas, our costs begin to come down, so we can begin to apply them here in the United States. Right now, we can't do it because the costs are too high. Cheap gas, fracking, you get the picture from a business point of view where we have to go. So what are we exporting? Now, something else to share with you, and this comes from my background. My background is this. I used to work for the Edison Electric Institute, which is the trade association for investor-owned utilities. I also used to work for Procter & Gamble, British Telecom and ITT Corporation, when it was the world's largest conglomerate. And I'm currently serving my fifth year on the Department of Commerce's Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency Advisory Committee. So what all this is about is business. It's about making money. It's about the economy. Now, let me give you one more quote, which comes from Richard Branson himself on climate change. He said, there's no greater time to make wealth than right now because of climate change. In other words, new technologies, new jobs, new industries, things we can be doing to make money and save the planet at the same time. These are not mutually exclusive. So what are we exporting? So here's how we compete against wind and China's wind and solar. We'll be exporting virtual power plants. And the idea of a virtual power plant is this. You have all the renewables talking to each other. They get cited. You have wind, solar, hydro-kinetic, hydro-power. They're all talking to each other. And that creates base load power. Energy storage is part of it. Fuel cells is part of it. CHP is part of it. They're all talking to each other, talking to each other, providing base load power to microgrids, which is the basis for smart grids and smart cities. Using local integrated resources is how that all comes together. So how does that happen? Now, I've been talking to the United Nations and the United Nations Development Program. It's this idea. It's the idea of going in, and this is a service the United States can export through our own government, government to government business. We go in to do regional integrated resource planning. And then we do ecosystem cost-benefit analysis. And then we do modeling. And then we do something strange that this country never does. We plan. We create plans. And we make those economic arguments for going into countries with all of the renewables going in with an answer to developing a sustainable community. This very example I'm talking about is underway in the Zanbezi Basin, working with the United Nations Development Program, U.S. Trade and Development Agency to connect five African countries along the Zanbezi River Basin, starting with hydropower, then you begin to connect. And the reason you start with hydropower is because it's also part of the water energy nexus. Our systems can be reducing clean water while it's producing power and pumping water for our agricultural purposes and creating water holes to help protect the African elephants from poachers. Okay, so that's what's happening. And also what's happening is that informal coalition is beginning to form and the coalition is leading to a, here's the catch word, a private public partnership, not a public-private partnership because governments cannot lead. Business can lead. Innovators can lead. So a private-public partnership is being formed. There's a number of universities like Cornell University and its Akatsun Center for Sustainable Future are getting behind it. The core of all this is water. So I leave all that with you because if you want to get involved, let me know. I'll be hanging around and I'm taking names. Okay, great. So hopefully we will have time at the end for a little Q&A and because I think it could all be very engaging. So we also have friends from north of the border. Obviously, the U.S. and Canada have a very, very special relationship and it's amazing how much clean energy power we get from Canada and in terms of what that means as we look at clean power plans here in the U.S. what that means economically. So we're happy to once again welcome Jacob Irving who is the President of Canadian Hydropower Association. Jacob. Thank you once again, Carol, very much for the opportunity to come and talk about Canadian hydropower to our American cousins here. To begin with, I think I'd like to start off by reading a bit of a humorous piece from the Internet. Please don't stop me if you've heard this one before because I think it's instructive. It goes a little something like this. It's a transcript between a U.S. naval ship and Canadian authorities off the coast of Newfoundland. So the Americans are on the radio. Please divert your course 15 degrees to the north to avoid a collision. The Canadians respond. Recommend you divert your course 15 degrees to the south to avoid a collision. The Americans respond. This is the captain of a U.S. Navy ship. I say again, divert your course. The Canadians respond. No, I say again, you divert your course. The Americans respond. This is the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln, the second largest ship in the United States Atlantic Fleet. We are accompanied by three destroyers, three cruisers and numerous support vessels. I demand that you change your course 15 degrees north. That's 15 degrees north, or countermeasures will be undertaken to ensure the safety of this ship. The Canadian responds. Well, we're a lighthouse, so, you know, you're called. It's so Canadian. Us Canadians love that little story. Whether or not it's true is a whole other thing. But I think the point, I like the point of the story is that I think is sort of as mighty as the United States is, you can always use our help. Thank you. And I also think actually another, this is so replete with analogies and lessons, this little fable, is that I often think about that lighthouse operator and, you know, say they didn't communicate it properly and say there was an accident. You can be sure that that lighthouse operator would have had a performance review with their superiors. It would not do for us Canadians to let you crash upon the rocks. But sometimes what we forget on our side of the board is that it is our job to communicate better to you. We shouldn't be sitting back passively expecting you to know things that you may not. And that really is the basis of why I'm here to talk to you today. As I always get the chance through Carol and EESI to do is I get the chance to essentially come and remind the United States of Canadian hydropower, the nature of it, how large we are, how we can grow, and how we can help both ourselves in Canada, but also the United States and to take a bit more of a North American approach to some of the shared climate change objectives, greenhouse gas issues that we've all discussed. So in Canada, from a hydropower perspective, we are the world's third largest generator of hydropower. And that is significant when you think of who number one and number two are. Number one is China with about 1.6 billion people. Number two is Brazil with about 230 million people. Number three is Canada with 35 million people. So we clearly box above our weight class when it comes to hydropower generation. We have one of the cleanest and most renewable electricity systems in the world. Hydropower is our number one source of generation. It's over 63% of the electricity generated in Canada compared to the United States, which is about 70% thermal combination of natural gas and coal. So we have a very large, very clean renewable electricity system from which we derive great benefit. But we look south to the United States and we see a desire to improve, clean the electricity system here. And the good news and the news that I want to make sure I communicate and that I bring to Americans every time I get the chance is that as large as we are, third largest generator in the world, we could still more than double our current installed capacity. And that is significant. Another way of looking at it is that if you look at OECD countries around the world and you look at who's building new storage hydropower, who's building new large storage hydropower, there's really only two countries and that's Turkey and Canada. Those are the two countries that have the resource of their disposal that are building it and can build more. And why this is important is because we can lend this undeveloped resource to assist the United States. You know, as Leroy was talking about, there's huge potential here domestically with hydro. There is the potential to bring more power out of your significant fleet. The United States has the third largest installed capacity of hydropower in the world. More efficiency and the like, you can bring a lot more power out of that and bring more on. And I know that the developers here are very strongly engaged on that front. But also like Leroy mentioned is there's a lot of non-powered dams. There's a lot of dams in this country that don't have hydro facilities in them at all. And if you can add that, you can bring on significant new domestic resources, which is very impressive. Us up North, Canada, we have new storage hydropower that can be built. And the reason why that's important, the reason why that's significant is because everyone knows that as the new renewables come on, wind and solar, both in the United States and in Canada, that they need a dispatchable backup. And the great thing about hydropower is that for 130 years of history, no other form of generation has succeeded in being more dispatchable than hydropower. Basically, you can turn us on and off faster than any other form of generation. And that is very important if you want to bring on new, more variable resources such as wind and solar. And so Canada has a huge capacity in that regard already, and we have the ability to build even more and then connect with the United States and help it in its desire to clean its grid and bring on more of its own clean renewable electricity. And this isn't just theory. We actually have a very interesting project that's developing in practice in the middle of our continent. And it's essentially, it's an arrangement between our province of Manitoba and the states of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and North Dakota. And I know actually Bill Libros here from Minnesota Power. So I might throw questions that anybody asks about some of the real details of this, but I can give you the large overview. What it is, is there is a desire in Wisconsin and Minnesota to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions from electricity generation. They'd like to turn down their coal and they'd like to turn up their renewables. To the west of them is North Dakota, which has one of the greatest wind resources in the world, world-class wind resource. But not a huge load center to plug into. Minnesota and Wisconsin offer that. They are the load centers. So they would really like to very much bring in some of that wind into Minnesota and Wisconsin. But for that to be viable, they need a backup. And the best backup that you could ask for, for wind, is hydropower. To the north lies Manitoba. Manitoba is 98% hydropower. It is a hydropower developer par excellence with a huge history. They are building a new project, the Kiask Project, and that project will service Manitoba's needs. But there will also be excess that will be able to support the wind power in North Dakota. And so to boil it all down, what it is, is it's two countries, three states, and one province all getting together across borders to ensure that clean renewable power enables more clean renewable power. And this, to me, is an amazing good news story of international cooperation, as much as it is a story about energy development. Our two countries are working together to bring on each other's clean renewable resources. And there is more potential in that regard from coast to coast in Canada. We have undeveloped hydropower potential east, west, north throughout the system. And perhaps something to end on as I try to attune you to the opportunities that Canada presents that we offer.  We send you more electricity than you send us. That stands to reason. That's the way things normally work with natural resources in Canada and the United States. You have more people than we have. We are the second largest landmass on the planet. We have a lot of resources. We are a net exporter of all forms of energy and you are generally our customers. So this works between our two nations quite well. And yes, we enjoy a favorable balance of trade and electricity. We send you probably somewhere in the order of about 40 terawatt hours a year of hydropower. And this is mutually beneficial, obviously to us as the generator, but we do as well. This helps displace between a half a million and a million tons of carbon your way every year. So we're working on this together. We're building it together. But as large and as important as that is to us Canadians and as much as that delivers to you in terms of reliable electricity and environmental benefits, it represents less than 1% of your electricity consumption overall. So our Canadian hydro is contributing less to US electricity consumption. Our humble argument is that that couldn't should grow a little bit. If we went to 2%, that would be a doubling for us Canadians. And I'm not even sure if it would necessarily be noticed that strongly in the United States. But it would displace more greenhouse gases as it always has. And it will have the capacity to be able to enable more the US renewables as well. The partnership opportunities are vast. This is a very good news story. I like to think that we can deliver from the north to our friends to the south. And really all we have to do is keep doing what we've always been doing, which is getting along, coming up with natural exchanges between our two systems, helping each other out, balancing each other's needs and attacking a common goal together, which I think is essentially reducing and cleaning up the North American electricity system. And we've been doing it for 130 years. Really all we need to do is keep doing it and do more of it. And I'd be really excited to answer some questions in that regard following the end of the panel. Okay, thank you, Jacob. And hopefully if we can stay on time, we'll be able to do that. And so I now would like to turn to David Chico, who is the Director of Efficiency Solutions with the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. I had the privilege of meeting David just a couple of months ago, was so impressed by everything, sorry, that they were doing there. And of course we also know that that whole part of California, well, California is really struggling with regard to water and therefore its whole linkage with energy. Right, thank you, Carol. So I'm going to change it up a little bit. We've had some great presentations about the supply side. I'm going to talk a little bit about the demand side now. How we can do demand side management. One side note, LEDWP operates one of the largest pump storage plants in the world, Castaic, 1,566 megawatts. We operate our own aqueduct from the Owens Valley, where we have a lot of inflow hydro. And to the right of me, it's all interlinked. Water, job creation, economic development. It's all interlinked, inextricably interlinked. And because of that, I'll talk a little bit about our energy efficiency efforts as well as our water efficiency efforts, because they really go hand in hand. On both resources, we have tremendous drivers for looking for new sources of power and water. We consider efficiency a source. We have integrated efficiency, water efficiency, power efficiency as a supply side resource and our integrated resource planning for both of those resources. And in fact, we're looking for it to accommodate about 15% of our energy needs by 2020 and about 20% of our water needs by 2020. We have tremendous drivers in Los Angeles, in California, especially Los Angeles, that are putting pressure on supply side resources, traditional supply side resources. On the power side, we are experiencing hotter summers. We've still got tremendous population growth, rising affluence and plug loads. Rising affluence is a good thing. The byproduct in plug loads is not so much. So those are challenges, but the big one that's coming for all utilities in California is our statewide policy push under AB32, the Greenhouse Global Warming Solutions Act, to electrify the passenger vehicle fleet. A transportation electrification is a huge policy objective in the state of California, not just like-duty vehicles, but also freight and shipping at dockside power as well. But where it affects the utility most specifically is with the light-duty passenger vehicles. We have estimated that a full conversion of the passenger vehicle fleet in the city of Los Angeles will double our load. We will go from retailing 24,000 gigawatt hours per year to 48,000 gigawatt hours per year. That's tremendous, tremendous increase in consumption and tremendous amount of growth over a period of time. We've got tremendous drivers driving load and the ability to bring on new resources, traditional supply-side resources is very challenging. Citing power plants, we're doing renewables, we're doing lots of renewables, but again, matching that kind of load is challenging. That leads us to really be focused on energy efficiency on the power side and on the water side, we don't necessarily have the same growth drivers, we're constrained on the supply side, the traditional supply side. We're in the midst of a four-year exceptional drought. The last four years are the driest period of four years on record in the city of Los Angeles. The drought we're in in California is pretty much unprecedented in recorded California history. The snowpack, which is our reservoir that falls in the Sierra Nevada over the winter and then slowly melts through the summer keeping the reservoirs full that feed the aqueducts that move the water lands to where it's needed was virtually zero April 1. There's no snowpack. Just astounding. So what's in the reservoirs is what's in the reservoirs. We've built a tremendous amount of reservoirs in the last few years. It'll tide us through, but we're really hoping that the signs of the El Nino that we've been seeing with the flooding in Texas in the Midwest is a harbinger of a wet winter for California. But in the meantime, not having that, we are in full efficiency and conservation mode, turf removal is a big one. We are de-landscaping Los Angeles. If you go back 150 years, if you went to Los Angeles, it was lots of native plants. Let's put it like that. It's a desert. It's a temperate desert, but it's a desert. Then we terraformed it as if we had gone to Mars and created this lush Southern California lifestyle of turf and inappropriate plants, high water type varieties, et cetera, lush landscapes. Well, we're working to yank that out now. It's a cultural shift. It's a painful process. But it has to be done because the water supply just isn't there to maintain that. So that is a huge driver for us in the programs we run. Now, we've made a long-term commitment to these programs, to these investments. Like I said, we're making this, we're making efficiency in both energy and water a supply-side investment. We're investing upwards of 100 to 200, growing to $200 million a year in energy efficiency. So between here and 2020, we're going to invest over $1 billion in energy efficiency, for which we will save the equivalent of 2,000 megawatt power plants. And you can't build a 4,000 megawatt power plant for $1.2 billion. But you can if you build it out of efficiency. Same thing on the water side. We're investing upwards of $60 million a year in water conservation. And I don't know how many of you are familiar with wholesale water prices. We have seen our wholesaler as the legendary and infamous metropolitan water district in Southern California. I can say that because I'm with the legendary and infamous Los Angeles Department of Water and Power. And we have seen wholesale rates on water go from $200 an acre foot to $1,200 an acre foot over the last six or seven years. And they will continue to rise. We expect we're probably not more than four or five years away from $2,000 an acre foot. At which point all sorts of other measures are cost-effective. Water efficiency is always cost-effective, even at $200 an acre foot. But at $1,200 to $2,000 an acre foot, you can really start doing some amazing things. We've been running a turf removal program that incentivizes customers to remove turf and replace it with a California-friendly landscape, no bare dirt, friendly landscape, at $3.75 a square foot. Now, up until recently, we had put some controls in recently because we're giving away a tremendous amount of money. But up until recently before those controls went in place, it stepped down to $3 per square foot, but then there was no limit. Well, $3 a square foot is $140,000 an acre. We're going to $140,000 an acre for turf removal. That's the price of land in the good part of the U.S. Not in California necessarily, but it just puts it in perspective and that was cost-effective. The water saved over 10 or 20 years pays back that investment, us not having to procure by that water from Metropolitan or build a desal plant, which there's a lot of interest in from the business side, but a lot of pushback from the policy side and the environmental side as well with whatever home owners, property owners happen to be on that part of the coast. It's more cost-effective to do the conservation route. One thing that I really want to stress, and so this is what I'm going to end with, but I'm not rushing out of it because it's really important. I'm guessing a lot of the audience here is obviously, since we're here, staff, representatives, electeds, representatives of electeds, et cetera. A lot of times I find that when I get in front of an audience like this and I talk efficiency and I talk demand-side management, yeah, that's nice, but at a certain point, after a certain point it kind of becomes wah-wah-wah-wah-wah. Okay, so I'm going to throw a word in there but we'll get you back thinking about jobs, jobs. So, efficiency, energy and water efficiency efforts are a prime driver of job creation. And we've heard all about the solar industry. The solar industry is a shining star of job creation in the state of California. 54,000 jobs in the solar industry. That's great. On the backs of billions and billions of dollars invested. We have, we've always sensed that efficiency was a more cost-effective job creation stimulus pathway than many others because it's more labor-intensive and materials-intensive. So we studied it and produced this in concert with UCLA, the Luskin Center of Public Policy. We analyzed energy efficiency job creation from the investment we are making in our programs and sure enough, we found that our programs generate 16 jobs for million dollars invested and jobs for million invested is pretty much the benchmark of job creation from various stimulus pathways. That compares natural gas development to 5.2 jobs for million invested, residential new construction, construction starts, new homes, that's the big, big bellwether of the economy nationwide, 10.7 jobs for million, smart grid deployment, we're getting there, 12.5, solar generation, 13.7. A lot of jobs there too, but even more jobs for million come from investments in energy efficiency. I know we're talking water. We did this three years before this one for water, found the same thing, jobs for million dollars invested, same thing, labor intensive, less materials intensive, there's a multiplicative job creation, local job creation benefit from that because the materials that creates jobs but quite often overseas in China, offshore manufacturing, or in the case of natural gas development and fracking out of state. If you're local to the concerns of the local electorate, as the utility serving the city of Los Angeles, we could care less about a job in North Dakota as much as we could care less about a job in China. That's because our local and state level electeds and constituencies care about those local job impacts. Efficiency gives you that, whether it's the energy side or the water side. So I'm going to put in a plug. I have more of these. We have a T11 out there in the other room and we'll be giving these away until they're gone. And we also, for our aggressive energy and water efficiency targets out through 2020, we developed a detailed business plan that explains how we plan to achieve it. Market segments, strategies, incentives, customer barrier, buy downs, et cetera. The whole plan is here to achieve the lofty goals that we've established for 2020 in energy and water efficiency. I have copies of these as well. So please stop by, take them off my hand so I don't have to lug them out of here. Like I had to lug them in here this morning. Thank you. We'll now turn to Dr. Daniel Farb, who is the CEO with Pioneer Valley Renewables and Leviathan Energy Group. Thank you. Hi, I'm first going to talk about my technologies and then about policy. I moved from Los Angeles to Israel 10 years ago to get into the technology world. I moved back to the United States two years ago to bring them to market. I got interested in renewable energy and decided that I wanted to make game-changing innovations that would save the planet. And so far I've filed around 30 patents in different areas. I first like to tell you a little bit about them. They're somewhat related by being influenced by a discipline called computational fluid dynamics. That sounds like a mouthful. I'm going to make it really easy for you. Imagine that there's wind blowing at one meter per second. The relationship between power output and velocity, power is related to the velocity cubed. So that's one times one times one, one light bulb. If you increase that velocity to two meters per second, you get two times two times two, which is eight light bulbs just by increasing the velocity by one meter per second. So you take that and then on top of it, let's say you apply it to water, you multiply it by 1,000 because of the density of water as opposed to wind. So you work with this kind of enhancement of power and we make geometries that can cause the speed to be higher at the point where it hits the blades. And now let's see how some of it applies. So first I'm going to talk about hydrokinetic power. I'd like to thank the NHA for inviting me to come here and speak. My company called Pioneer Valley Renewables makes underwater turbines. They can be used in rivers, canals, tides, and ocean currents. In November, we did a demonstration of our canal system in Massachusetts. And it demonstrated that we were making well over 100% more power per water speed than the conventional three-bladed regular underwater turbines. That's a game changer and we're now negotiating our first contracts. And I'd appreciate, by the way, if everybody in the audience can think of places in their districts where we could do this kind of thing. This efficiency advantage is so high that we can afford to manufacture this in the United States. And we are planning to manufacture in the United States, mostly in a depressed industrial area in Massachusetts, but using as many other suppliers from the United States as possible and also in the local locations. And the same technology can also be applied to small and medium-sized wind turbines. And we hope to get into that as well. Technology number two. We call it the wind energizer. Now, I'm going to wave a magic wand and I'm going to show you how we can improve the power output of the very large wind turbines and wind farms by at least 30% without even touching the turbine. Now, that may sound like magic, but what we do is we use the discipline of computational fluid dynamics for the models of the wind turbine, the wind in the terrain, and we make structures maybe 50 meters, maybe 100 meters away from the turbine that change the wind before it hits the turbine. It's a very unique innovative solution and it works. We've proven it on a small scale. And this is something everybody should think about for their district because it's a great job creator. After the high tech work is done, it's farmed out to local construction and installation firms and metal fabrication firms and this can be huge for all the wind farms all over the country and what's more because it lowers the effective speed at which a wind turbine starts to turn is that it opens up new areas of the country for wind energy. Next technology. We make small wind tulips for flat roofs. Now, they're beautiful. That's why we call them tulips. They're quiet and have low vibration but they're two major impacts on the cost of energy and those are one that they start at lower speeds than other turbines and two this is what I call more zoom and less room. There's a cluster effect. They're designed in such a way and this is one of the patent pending things that I have is that if you place them at the right distance next to each other, one improves its neighbor by 20%. Most wind turbines you need to separate, make it far away. Now, this is a game changer because if you were to imagine where would the solar industry be if you had to put one panel on one end of a roof and another panel on the other end of the roof and nothing in between. So this opens the capability to make rooftop wind farms. Okay. Next one I'll talk about, final technology I'll talk about today is in-pipe hydroelectric. It's applying hydroelectric to piping systems. Every piping system around the world has areas where there is excess pressure. Pressure that you don't need to run the system. Now, what usually happens is the water utility either lets it leak and that's of course important for people like you or they put in a pressure breaker which wastes this pressure as heat. Imagine having a pressure breaker that can make you money and give you the right pressure that you need to run your system at the exit. So this is a unique approach and the application is not only for water utilities but even sustainable buildings. If you look at a building like this, it's probably being cooled right now by water circulation and there's probably a similar in the basement that the water is flowing back into continuously that's building up energy that we can partially recover by putting in a turbine in the pipeline that's descending. If anybody knows the engineer for this building please let me know afterwards. Okay. So let me suggest some policy measures that would help. Number one, encourage innovation. Now I've been busy with innovation myself. Everything I'm doing is in early commercialization stage. It takes money. As Trey pointed out the amount of money going for research and development is very low. The number of good ideas that get turned away for government support is very high. You just simply have to put in more money or you're not going to get the innovation and you're not going to get the new jobs. Now when you put in this money it's important to make rules that it should go to small companies that need it and for fundamental not just incremental technology. In other words if there's a game changer now the fact is is the way most people are, most people in corporations and most reviewers for the Department of Energy they don't like to stick their necks out with something new. So unless you write into the rules or the laws that the money is to go to fundamentally new approaches then it's not going to go there. Another area to revise is SBA loans. Now if I were running a nail salon and wanted to expand my business I can get money more easily from the SBA than if I have a high tech firm that could turn into a billion dollar company. So that should be revised in such a way that we can do something about it. Another thing is as everyone pointed out there are a lot of unused dams in the US. If you were to fund hydrokinetic as an alternative to putting the old Francis or other kinds of turbines in place that would open that up for hydrokinetic to do what it does. Hydrokinetic means you don't have to stop the water and then start it again. You have the extra energy from not stopping the flow. I'll make the rest fast. Another area is patents. It sometimes seems like the patent office is trying to increase its fees. They find all sorts of great ways to deny you a patent and sometimes they get very silly so that and it's not just the US that does it it's other countries. It's the US that does it's way as part of their overall economic strategy. I don't know if that's true or not but I did hear it from somebody who heard it from somebody who worked in the Chinese patent office. These are all things that can be worked on and make it easier for innovative companies to put their money into more important things. Okay, so I'm getting messages to stop the sustainable economy if we have the right vision, will, policies and funding and in this transition hydro power has the greatest density of power and we should do whatever we can to help reduce the red tape that's involved in bringing it to market. Thank you. Lots of interesting stuff there. Sorry that we are literally running out of time because you've all got so much but because we started a little bit late and we have one speaker remaining who also has some very important messages for us today too and that's Thomas Orner who is the vice president with Water Management Inc and obviously this is all about water management we've been talking about. What? Can you do, no more than five how's that, okay? What's really important for us? I first of all wanted to thank Carol and EESI they've done a great job for the last 19 years I believe on the hill and it's not just this annual symposium it's every week they're educating the people up here on both the senate and the representative side they do a wonderful job you need to go to their website and attend some of their sessions I wanted to thank the senators and the congressmen that are here and a lot of their aides that are really the staff is the ones that go out of their way to give the proper information to the upper level folks to form our policy and we're becoming a lot more sustainably minded in the country due to time factor we'll constrict a lot of things but water management we've done large scale water efficiency programs mostly on the east coast we have an office here in Alexandria one in Nashville and one in Dallas we kind of work off the philosophy that the bottom line of green the sustainable movement is black that's an accounting term the difficulty we've always had in the west coast is they figured out a way to greatly under charge for the water they provide when you under charge for something that's incredibly valuable you'll use a lot of it I believe what's going to happen in LA and most of California within the next year and a half is they had slack in the system they're spending a lot of money wisely they're going to be a repeat of what happened to Seattle I believe 12 years ago Seattle was into a crisis drought they went out and got everybody involved they saved 28% first year water utilities operate quite differently than electric and gas utilities the two main differences are that electric and gas quantity is about 70% plus of what you pay on your bill in water the infrastructure cost is 70% plus of what you pay on your bill so when you have a 28% savings and that's my over and under for what LA is going to do next year you have to double your rate within three years it's going to change to the whole dynamic he's talking about going from $2 in acre foot to $1200 in acre foot and that's the one thing that always amazed me about the California water professionals that I knew they talked in acre feet where we on the west coast talk in thousands of gallons so there's going to be a great increase in efficiency which will lead to an increase in the cost we've set up a program we call it the wolf program water optimization and low flow program we've set up our first major mechanical contractor in San Diego we've been doing this 35 years and everything we've done is based on ROI return on investment and internal rate of return for our clients we have a lot higher rates three to five times what California has we do not decouple the wastewater from the water fee so it's all based on consumption we have 54,000 water authorities in the country with 54,000 different rate structures the difficulty that we'll have in the near future is how do we properly pay for the most valuable entity that mankind has ever known without clean pure safe water and disposal you don't have a civilization so in my 20 seconds left AWWA Water Works Association Conference the general manager of DC Water was to ask at a panel how many jobs we were talking about jobs are you responsible for in the District of Columbia George Hawkins stepped to the microphone and said every single one of them without a water authority you don't have civilization it's the cheapest $3 less than 4 cents for 10 gallons of water biggest bargain in the world we got to make it a lot more expensive and we're going to be doing that in the next few years thank you thank you and sorry for feeling rushed and everything because this is just a critical critical issue because we cannot survive without water and it's so dependent upon how we use it how we consume it and it's also so important in terms of the energy that it provides and in this huge nexus is fascinating very very important so go see all these guys and thank you all very very much for being here we're now going to move to our next panel immediately thank you


When the narcissist or the borderline Whisper in your ear. I love you What do they mean? What goes through their minds? What is the internal correlate to this sentence assuming for a minute that it's not a manipulative tactic It's not a part of love bombing bombing or grooming Assuming for a minute that there is no malicious intent behind this sentence and Assuming for a minute that the narcissist and borderline truly believe themselves to be in love with you What is really going on? If we were to direct an imaginary or proverbial microscope or telescope Perhaps into the narcissist mind. What would we see there happening? Which cogs and wheels are turning when this sentence is uttered? Repeatedly very often Borderlines protest vehemently that they are capable of true love true affection commitment and empathy They insist that the way they love is even stronger than healthy normal people They're overwhelmed by love. They are Disregulated by love Narcissists similarly Most narcissists claim that they had been in love several times in their lifetimes In my database which now comprises 1,830 people diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder Well over 70 percent claim to have been in love and they describe the feeling as profound moving mind altering and life transforming transformative experience They sound suspiciously Like normal healthy people the way normal healthy people describe love But is it really love and why would the narcissist interpret The in his internal processes as love why would he label these processes love? Why wouldn't he call it envy or hatred or rage? Or fun Why does he insist on the label love and why does the borderline do the same? So today we are going to discuss a process called mislabelling cognitive mislabelling and Misidentification it's a form of attribution bias or attribution error Only the attribution is self attribution. It's a desperate attempt by narcissists and borderlines to make sense of Whatever is happening inside them They both of them don't have real access to their emotions the borderline is overwhelmed by her emotions She drowns in them and so she's terrified of emotions and she's very defensive. She has well constructed firewalls Gams attempting to stop the tsunami of Emotionality That could sweep her away the narcissist on the other hand is access only to negative Affectivity only to negative emotions. So he's incapable of experiencing true love But before we proceed, of course, there's a philosophical question. What is love? I don't want to enter into these debates which have been going on for well over 3000 years to the best of my knowledge. Instead, I would like to propose an operational definition Love is what normal healthy people call love People without mental health issues people without personality disorders people devoid of mood disorders people without anxiety disorders People who are just happy go lucky normal healthy folk You ask these people. What are you feeling now? They say I'm in love That's good enough for me. That's the definition of love Whatever healthy normal people as crime To love and intimacy should be the definition of love and intimacy and then the question arises, of course What narcissistic experience and what borderline's experience? Is it the same? Is it comparable to what healthy normal people experience and this raises a philosophical problem known as Intersubjectivity, how can we access the mind of the narcissist and how can we access the mind of a healthy person? And then how can we how can we compare them rigorously? There's no way to do this Each one of us is a sealed solipsistic universe No one has access to my mind The only access you have to my mind is via self-reporting and the only access I have to your mind Is by listening to what you have to tell me about your mind and it's inner workings I have no way to verify this. I can try to use all kinds of Imaging technologies, you know FMRI and whatever and I can obtain some correlated blood flows in the brain and bioelectrical activity multiple unit activity and all kinds of Neuroscientific hocus pocus, but it's not the same. It's not the essence These are like markers or symptoms No one has access to anyone else's mind and because we don't have access to anyone's mind It's very difficult and hubristic To compare what goes on in the narcissist mind with what what is going on in a healthy person's mind But we will attempt all the same because I'm grandiose Oh Okay, Shoshani time to introduce myself. My name is Sam Vaknin and I'm the author of Malignance of Love narcissism revisit and I'm also a professor of psychology with a thick unbearable accent Turn me off right now You can't eh? I'm addictive. You're curious. What's in store and I can't blame you I find myself addictive as well. I love the sound of my voice enough enough enough. Let's go on Okay, let's start by saying by by making a sweeping statement Which is grounded even in more conventional texts like the fifth edition of the diagnostic and statistical manual in the alternative alternative model of narcissistic personality disorder page 767 and in the alternative model of borderline personality disorder It says pretty pretty clearly that borderlines and narcissists especially narcissists are incapable of intimacy so mislabelling and Misidentify internal dynamics is a common cognitive distortion Among cluster B patients, I'm gonna repeat this sentence for two reasons first of all I said it so it must be important and second reason It's a summary of the whole video and may get you off the hook very early on Mislabelling and misidentifying internal dynamics is a common cognitive distortion Among cluster B patients. Let's deconstruct this sentence When we have when something happens internally when we have this Realization through introspection That some process is occurring that some change is transpiring that Some furniture is being rearranged inside the mind. We call this psychodynamics It's internal totally internal. Of course, it happens in your psyche. That's why it's called Psychodynamics Shoshanim. Okay, it happens in your psyche and then you have to give it a name Now there are numerous studies that had demonstrated that we pick up cues from the environment We pick up all kinds of cues from the environment and then we say well based on the assemblage Or the compendium of these clues and these cues from the environment probably what I'm feeling right now is this So we label our internal psychodynamics in accordance with environmental and social cues Which is why people with autism spectrum disorder find it very difficult to do this as do narcissists people who misinterpret and misread Social and environmental cues signaling other people's signaling They have difficulty to label their psychodynamic processes Accurately or at all and so The first stage is that something is happening inside usually it's it's reactive, but doesn't have to be it could be a result of the confluence of Several other sub processes in the mind, but something is happening there. There's some upheaval There's some upheaval. There's some tumult there's some Hurricane occurring and then you have to give it a name you have to identify and you have to label it And you have to label it because you would like probably to communicate it even if only to yourself language is a mediator We mediate our introspection via language we also of course communicate with other people via language so we have to identify and label when cluster B patients try to do this They fail And what happens is they stick they slap the wrong labels on their own internal Dynamics on their own own internal processes. And so they slap the wrong label and this is called Cognitive distortion. Now, there are many types of cognitive distortion Grandiosity for example is a type of cognitive distortion. There are many others cognitive distortions are misinterpretations of reality which generate Cognitions thoughts or Misinterpretations of reality which are mediated through thoughts. They have the outcome of wrong thinking for example negative automatic thoughts automatic negative thoughts ends So when we have the wrong the wrong thoughts We end up mislabeling and misidentifying our internal processes similarly When we mislabel and misidentify our internal processes, we generate the wrong thoughts It's a vicious circle and it's a circle within within which cluster B patients are Held hostage.  I'm getting it all so wrong. Of course, they would say this They would say this because they know no better and they know no different They mislabel things Something is happening inside them and they say that must be love Another thing is happening some counter process and they say well, that's probably intimacy and Then they have sex and they say well, I felt some kind of connection in the sex The sex was very intimate even if the sex Had occurred with someone they had met five an hour before or two hours before they would still insist That what had happened in the sex was a profound intimate connection Why because they have no idea What is intimacy and they have no idea what is a real connection the true connection and have never experienced love or any other form of Interaction which involves resonating empathy Now borderlines do have empathy and Borderlines even have emotions of course because they are emotionally Disregulated but the emotions and empathy of the borderline are Instrumentalized the borderline is very goal oriented and her goal is to avoid abandonment and rejection To maintain the object constancy in the presence of the intimate partner in her life so that he can provide her with ego Boundary functions. In other words, she needs the intimate partner to regulate her internal environment she outsources she outsources internal processes and Let's the intimate partner do the work So her moods for example depend critically on the intimate partner's behavior and he has to be attuned to her Signaling in order to modify his behavior so as to keep her regulated so borderlines would call this intimacy and They would call the relationship a loving relationship, but of course, this is nothing to do with love or with intimacy and it involves empathy but a kind of functional instrumentalizing empathy people with personality disorder confuse many internal processes with love and intimacy and That happens in sex as well For example borderlines Would tend to have sex and then claim that they had fallen in love during the sex That the sex had led them to fall in love because they had experienced amazing intimacy with a stranger They had just met whose name. They are not quite sure of so This confusion this conflation Leads the cluster B personality disorder person to mislabel and Misidentify what's happening inside him and consequently to mislead and deceive Everyone around him or her of course for example Narcissism borderlines confuse dependency Confused dependency with love and intimacy they dependency entails The abolition of boundaries porous boundaries So then there is a process of merger and fusion the symbiosis Where the borderline and the narcissists become one With their intimate partners the narcissist regards his intimate partners and extension the borderline Regards his intimate her intimate partner is a soulmate or not forbid a twin flame. So In this case dependency would be easily could be easily confused with love And of course the intimacy is maximal because this total identification the narcissist says I Am you you are me so does the borderline but that's not loving intimacy because true loving intimacy are Grounded and founded upon the separateness of the lovers To to really love you need you to keep your lover your lover at arms length The separateness Creates love you need to love your intimate partner as he or she is Otherwise what you're doing is auto erotic you you love your loving what you're doing is loving yourself through your partner Merger and fusion is a form of self-love Narcissistic self-love narcissistic mirroring Actually the borderline and the narcissists fall in love with themselves through the agency of the intimate partner and Course the intimate partner to fall in love with her herself through their agency So it's a mutual admiration society. It's a whole of mirrors Dependency is the exact opposite of love because dependency entails The eradication the elimination the vanishing of the love object As you as you assimilate Subsume the love object he disappears or she disappears You can't love someone by digesting them Love is not a culinary experience Similarly borderlines and narcissists tend to confuse limerence or infatuation the the rush of First acquaintance They tend to confuse this with love and that's why they offer you marriage on a second meeting And they plan to have children on the third meeting if they're very slow So the adrenaline rush the infatuation The intrigue of a new body and a new person and a new life the novelty the limerence All these are misinterpreted by narcissists and borderline as love and intimacy this again is a totally internalized process it has very little to do with the other person limerence infatuation Forms of novelty seeking which by the way as an as an aside is a psychopathic trait it's on the positive side it denotes and Is a form of openness So narcissists and borderlines are usually at least the extroverted ones are usually open to new Experiences, but they seek novelty in a compulsive way exactly like the psychopath. And so here comes a stranger That stranger has one enormous advantage He is or she is unknown Terra incognita a new continent to explore Full of amazing treasures Unexpected turns of events adventures and rush Adrenaline rush Dopamine rush sexual rush new body a new body new smells new visual cues So Narcissism borderlines have a history of promiscuous sexual behavior in most cases and have a history of bed hopping and Their relationships pseudo relationships actually are very short because they are novelty seekers they confuse the process of discovering the other With love and intimacy and of course it's not It's a precondition from love and intimacy which come much much later Once the separateness of the other is recognized and once the novelty wore off Novelty obscures the view Seeking novelty Limerence infatuation. They produce massive cognitive distortions Love is a pathology often compared to a psychotic state And so here's another form of confusion Narcissism borderlines would confuse exhibitionism with love and intimacy Undressing in public or to an audience an audience of one an audience of a hundred It's all the same. It creates a feeling of intimacy so exhibitionism could be could be Bodily taking off your clothes, but exhibitionism is more often Intellectual or psychological or autobiographical So rendering your private life public Converting yourself into a public spectacle This is a for these are all forms of exhibitionism and the narcissism borderline Experience this denuding experience this Exposure self exposure as love and they call it intimacy Of course exhibitionism is the exact opposite of intimacy Because exhibitionism is that its apex provides the maximum stimulus When the observer is a stranger someone you don't know If it is someone, you know the titillation and the excitement is much lower As anyone As all of you know when you're in the relationship that's been going on for a few years and Dressing in front of your partner has very little sexual value. It's it's doesn't trigger a sexual response So exhibitionism is a stranger interaction. It's a form of stranger sex or stranger exposure and so The narcissists and the borderline Interpret exhibitionism as instant intimacy full-scale. They experience the whole process as falling in love Another example Narcissus and borderlines confuse masochism with intimacy and love remember that Narcissus and borderlines Were forged in the furnace of early childhood abuse They had learned to identify love and intimacy with pain and hurt and breach of boundaries and so Whenever they re-experience these things whenever they are in agony whenever they are abused Whenever they are mistreated whenever they are humiliated whatever There is sexual arousal and then Psychological arousal which they interpret as love and intimacy the association between love intimacy pain hurt and Mistreatment breach of boundaries. This association is hardwired into the brains in the post traumatic brains of Narcissus and borderlines and they can't let it go They mislabel and misidentify what's happening as a form of love Quite a few borderlines would tell you that yeah, my husband beats me up But that's because he loves me or my husband is insanely jealous because he loves me Similarly the the narcissist Would inflict enormous abuse on his in a variety of forms on his intimate partner as a sign of love He would even call it tough love Is a confusion here between masochism and sadism and love and intimacy Defiance is often confused with love and intimacy the borderline believes that one way of showing love and intimacy is by Defying conventions traditions mores and values by kind of Rendering herself in outcast in a pariah going on a limb for the loved one She confuses Defiance which is a secondary psychopathy feature. She confuses defines with Love and then the very act of defines separates her from the rest of humanity so to speak and then it's She and her intimate partner and so this creates an Enormous intense intimacy the defined act Creates a cult of two the borderline or the narcissist and their intimate partners They defy the world. It's we against the world and this is misinterpreted very often as a form of Maximal intimacy and proof of love similarly many borderlines, especially Those who are comorbid with psychopathy primary psychopathy pretty common comorbidity by the way many borderlines confuse competitiveness and possessiveness with love and intimacy so a borderline would compete with other women for her men and She would Win her men and she would win the win the battle and she interprets this as love and The winning the experience of winning which is euphoric and elating and transcendental This she experiences this she interprets or mislabels as intimacy Competitiveness is at the heart of narcissism and borderline behaviors The narcissists and borderline engage constantly in relative positioning that constantly compare themselves to others Envy is a diagnostic criterion of narcissistic personality disorder and the borderline is so insecure With her abandonment anxiety and engulfment and engulfment anxiety that she competes all the time She competes all the time to be on top She competes to win She competes to take over she compete competes to stand out when her grandiosity is in play so competitiveness competition in possession Possessing the or the love object these are perceived as true love and as Intimacy but of course they're exactly the opposite because they involve vanquishing Isolating by winning winning means isolating your love object from all others Possessing is the same vanquishing the independent autonomous agentic existence of your love object and Possessing him and these are easily confused with love and intimacy Similarly neediness neediness especially clinging neediness This is often interpreted especially by the borderline as a form of extreme intimacy and The gratification of these needs is perceived as truth of love as a form of connection For example in sex even sex with a stranger when the stranger Gratifies the sexual urges of the borderline. She would feel a very powerful connection The connection has less to do with the sex and more to do with a sensation of power Even if the power is sublimated in other words, even if the power is not felt directly by the borderline It's still a power play She needs something and by hook and by crook.  They use the term special friend to describe the kind of people who cater to their needs Regardless of what the needs are they could be sexual they could be other But people who cater to their needs and they would misidentify this this against all Counterfactually against all available facts. They would Misinterpret and mislabel This neediness and the gratification of the needs as love and intimacy Finally, of course people pleasing people pleasing is the quintessential confusion in the narcissist and borderline's mind The borderline Tries to please people. She wants people to like her She wants people to love her and she would do and give anything To be liked and loved and that includes of course sex And she would give sex in any configuration to any number of people to obtain individual or collective acceptance That way she fends off Abandonment and rejection anxiety which reflect on her sense of self-worth. She regulates her sense of self-worth by importing Importing Reactions from people so she needs them to like her and to love her and she would do anything to accomplish this the experience of pleasing people she perceives as love and The reciprocity reciprocating if someone reciprocates it. She perceives this as extreme intimacy Borderline's analysis is a tribute intimacy to Situation where there's no hint or trace of intimacy and cannot be could not be any hint or trace of intimacy situations which by definition Utterly not intimate for example group sex or gang gang rape or A totally drunk party or Taking care of someone who rejects you and abuses you all the time So even there the borderline analysis is with misattribute intimacy to the situation because there is an exchange of needs as usual they instrumentalize all these interactions All these things that I've just mentioned I'm gonna recap Appendancy limerence novelty infatuation rush Exhibitionism masochism defines competitiveness possessiveness neediness People pleasing none of these things is love None of these things entails or involves intimacy not even by a long shot. Many of them are antonyms the opposite of love and intimacy and yet Narcissist and borderline's would insist that this is true love Stronger than anyone's more powerful and mightier and more profound and more intense than anything Anyone else is capable of experience many narcissists. Tell me. I Don't love often, but when I do there's nothing like my love. It's pure and strong and faithful Borderline's would go even further. There would be more poetic or lyrical when they describe love and intimacy And yet both of them are incapable of experiencing either true love or true intimacy So why do they insist why do they keep saying yes We do indeed experience love. Yes, we are capable of true or pervasive ubiquitous Warm accepting loving intimacy. Why why do they see because it feels It feels like emotions and intimacy to these patients These patients experience these processes that I mentioned before and When they try to interpret them and to label them they look around and they see similar behaviors with normal and healthy people They slap the wrong label They don't know any better. They don't know any difference. So There it's it's like their vocabulary is limited or they've picked up the wrong words in the wrong language And then now they're using it some kind of paging So it feels to them like true emotions and true in real veritable genuine Intimacy not ersatz, but it the real thing the real McCoy And you can't convince them otherwise because they're emotionally invested. They are affected This interpretation of their internal processes Narcissists are Binary binary state devices. I feel bad. I feel good. That's it Narcissists have no nuances. No subtleties. No shades of gray not 50 and 05 nothing They have I feel good. I feel bad. It's even worse the cycle was Borderlines are the same, but they are often dysregulated by overwhelming emotions So they have these dims tierings. They have this strange Subterranean under the ocean currents, which they can't quite put their finger on they can't quite place They can't quite capture It's it's it's dim. It's background It's it comes and goes it's fleeting. It's ephemeral and and they know something is happening But they can't put a name to it. And so they resort to a vocabulary The vocabulary of healthier normal folk vocabulary of healthy normal people But this is a linguistic sleight of hand It doesn't make it so needless to say it doesn't make It doesn't make it love. It doesn't make it intimacy if you call something love or intimacy It doesn't become love and intimacy just because you say so. That's a grandiosity Narcissists and borderlines have a low tolerance for uncertainty They have a tendency to catastrophize and they have many of them have comorbid generalized anxiety And these resulting addictive or obsessive compulsive behaviors Intended to suppress a discomfort through addiction or to ritually fend off Bad things that are about to happen through obsession compulsive obsessive compulsive rituals Obsession compulsion and addiction also involve dissociation either as a cause or as an effect And this is why for example obsessive compulsives Check time and again, whether they had locked the door or turned on the alarm And this is why addicts have patchy memories with both these conditions involve Dissociation and this leads me to the issue of mislabeling misidentification or in clinical terms self-misattribution One major problem is dissociation perhaps the major problem the Narcissist and the borderline are dissociated not only from memories But also from their own being and existence for example in the in the twin processes or in the process of depersonalization They're also dissociated from the world for example in the process known as De-realization so they have no access to the world no continuous access They have patchy disjointed access this continuous access, but no continuous access to the world No continuous access to their own bodies and no continuous access to their own minds via amnesia They can't remember continuously. They have memory gaps And this creates a Very broken Existence, which is known in clinical terms as identity disturbance trying to label And try to label internal processes Trying to find the correct name for what's happening inside you is an attempt to come up with the glue The kind of confabulation That will allow you to restore your continuity If you could get a handle on what's happening inside you Even if it were only a linguistic handle You maybe could restore your being and your relationship with the world and ultimately maybe your mind and memory and by extension your identity the narcissists and borderlines constant attempt To explain or to describe or to capture or to or to name To give a name to what's happening inside them is Actually an attempt at self restoration an attempt at Bridging confabulation. It's it's confabulate. It's an internal confabulation. It's not autobiographical, but It's an attempt to explain to themselves What is happening inside them? We all have insight To some degree as to what is happening inside us. We can say I'm sad and happy, you know We all have this kind of insight Narcissists and borderlines have very very diminished self insight inability to introspect That's why they are infuriating because they can't see themselves and never mind how much how many times you put a mirror to them They still can't see themselves when the narcissist looks at the mirror. He doesn't see himself He sees his grandiosity. It's a cognitive distortion. It's a veil through a glass very very darkly and so capturing labelling naming your emotions and State of mind and outward experience love intimacy This gives this gives the narcissist and the borderline a fleeting sense of being grounded in the world as separate entities with the mind of their own with identity continuity and memory and then of course it fleets away and disappears and goes and They're back to square one desperately struggling against the odds To restore themselves into existence