This is Christian Buckley with another MVP Buzz Chat and I'm here talking with Jay. Hey. Hey, Christian, I'm really excited to be here. Thank you for bringing me on. First time we've talked since I got that very coveted plaque over here. Woo-hoo! Thank you. Yeah, very... Why don't you have like specifically like one of those small spots that like lights it up? I need to be backlit around it or something. You know, you think that you put more care into it. I may, if you look at the spacing of the five lights, you can see that I at least changed the spacing just so you can see the blue stripe. There you go. The problem is the light is too tall.  The short version. So I'm the director of federal strategy for Avpoint Public Sector. On the side, I run the M365 Gov Community Call, which is a monthly phone call that we do on video. I also run the Buzzkill IT podcast, which is all about the topics that nobody wants to give you time and resources for, but if you don't have, you will fail. And I also run This Week in Teams, which is a non-weekly podcast covering Microsoft Teams topics. I know it was, the goal was to do weekly and let's just talk about goals. What does that phrase mean of non-weekly? Any other cadence is that's not weekly is non-weekly. It acknowledges that there is no cadence and therefore I can't tell you what it is. But the fact that it's called This Week in Teams, it suggests something that I can't live up to right now. I'm again, I'm gonna start using the phrase as people ask me, it's like, hey, you know, Harry, where's that status report? It's like, you know, I'm cadence free on status. Yes. Yes. Which I interpret as whenever I want or feel like it, I'm not feeling it right. I'm not gonna say that's wrong, Christian. I'm not, it's a reality of life right now. So Jay and I were together at that point, but and the other thing is, so Jay, so we last spoke was for the collab talk podcast. Yes. A few weeks back around your role in the federal space. Yeah. The conversation around like your MVP hood, which is more about the technology than you know, the department. Yeah, I know. Thank you for figuring out how to do that without. Well, there's another way of saying that, like where it's kind of a running joke with MVPs. So kind of you think of the word happiness. Yes. Yes. That's you did it. There we go. How you emphasize the letters, the spelling of that. Yeah. So MVP hood, I prefer. I like it. No, it's good. It reminds me, my wife's a doctorate, a doctor, a PhD. She's a PhD and she just got her hood. So it, I can pretend it's anywhere near the same level of notoriety that she has. Now I'm just thinking of your wife pretending to be Dwight Schrute, pretending to be a Sith Lord. I can't wait till she hears this. I'm in so much trouble. Has she walked on stage or anything with that? Or is it past that? Does she already have the doctorate? So she's not going to have that transfer. She just walked on stage this past summer. We went to- So I'm just going to say that with the hood, there was the opportunity to carry a lightsaber. I know. Yeah. Opportunity. Opportunity missed, dear Antares. You missed your opportunity. I'm with you. No, let's drop this on her. Well, I loved it to go through as part of these interviews and to, let's find out, like, Jay, what was your path into becoming an MVP? What did you do in the run-up, too? What do you think was what pushed you over the line? Well, the first memory I have coming out of, no, in all seriousness, it was kind of crazy and unexpected. A few years ago, I've been in technology for 22 years now. I started as a web developer and actually created my own web development firm. And since that time, I was a .NET developer. I was a database admin. I worked on Microsoft's workflow orchestration engine, which name escapes me right now. I did all of these things, and I ended up in the sales side of the house in the last decade. I spent five years doing it outside of Microsoft, where Microsoft was like something we connected to, and then I spent the last five years doing it again as a sales engineer, doing it as a Microsoft partner here at AvePoint. And so it's now as a salesperson, as the director of federal strategy that I'm an MVP, which is kind of crazy to me, but what did I do? Hey, well, that's actually, it's a great point to make, that it is, because people ask all the time, like, what are the steps that I'm doing? I think I'm doing all the things, and I always say to people, it's like, it's a black box. Yeah, anybody can do it. It's a variety of things that Microsoft is interested in, there's different reasons why. You're in a sales role and yet, but you're still doing all of these other activities, which are community. So it's not even as critical that you have the right job title of what you're doing. It really is what you're doing on the community side. Yeah, absolutely. And that's the key for me, too, is the community. I'm glad you said that, because when I got, I took a break from technology for a couple of years after college, and when I got back into technology, it was the .NET user groups in Texas, in the Dallas area, there were three of them that got me back up to speed and got me going again and got me multiple jobs. Tim Rayburn and Caleb Jenkins and the crew down there really got me moving. And so the community that comes with being an MVP, the community that comes with the entire Microsoft stack, is I think what made me successful and become an MVP. It's, you know, I run a user group, which has a non-monthly cadence. I have the three podcasts I just talked about. I have the Microsoft 365 conference, which we've now run twice and have a third one coming up in January. It's all of these opportunities to bring people together and share information.  I think that's the magic of being an MVP. Yeah, that's my road. You know, it's funny, it's like we just had, so I had for our user group here, I've been, so I've been, I moved away from Seattle five years ago. Wow, it's been five years already. And I immediately, I joined the Utah that what was the SharePoint user group or the Spug. Yep. And we kind of morphed that, but I had started the SharePoint Saturday, Utah, when I was living in Seattle and I just, I went to school here and friends and family here. So I traveled out here, helped started up and run that. And so just kind of naturally helped run it since I've been here the last five years. Obviously, the pandemic has kind of changed even and has deteriorated some of the formerly, the community efforts, the user group efforts. Yeah. We had our, we had a monthly call and one of the questions on the table was like, do we just dissolve this? There's so many other online pieces out there. We don't know timeframe for really pulling this back together. And we put the question out there, but all of us on the family were like, you know, no, that's not really an option that even, even if it's the six of us that are part of the, you know, the board, we had a couple of people missing. Even if it's just us getting together, there's value in us getting together on a regular basis. And so with kind of renewed effort, we put together a new plan for it to kind of drive and go and move forward on that. My point in sharing that is that, you know, we recognize that there is value in being together, that we may not know what that value that we're looking for or what we can provide at this moment. I can't articulate that for you. Right. I remember having a conversation with the manager at a previous company based in Redmond, Washington where I had kind of an argument with the manager that I didn't get along with who I had been doing internal user group community type stuff on my lunch hour. Like, and sometimes they didn't participate because work wouldn't allow me to get away. It was my, it was my time kind of thing. And this manager told me and said, I don't see the value in you participating in our weekly one-on-one with, you know, in that group, those group activities. And my response, I chose my words and I said, I'm not so selfish as to think that I have to get value out of every interaction with the community. No, that's not the store, yeah. Sometimes being there, it's, and I might be able to share a perspective, share some other experience with them and somebody else gets value out of it. And I continue because I know that over time, I will then get value out of that. That's absolutely true. And it's amazing to actually break it down that far. Like the whole purpose of community is so that when I need community, it's there. But when I don't need community, if I'm not there for the other people in the community, how will I know, why would they be there for me when I need it, right? Exactly. So I love that statement of it's not always the value you are getting out of it. And I agree with it. The other thing that you said that really got me thinking and that apologies is my face went to the other screen because I wanted to make sure I was saying it right. Oh, I'm just gonna look at my watch 20 times. Let me put on a watch, hang on. Is, so you talked about the dissolution of the group and the idea of, look, if it's just the six of us that get together or there's still something that comes out of it is, so when my wife and I went to Oxford 12 years ago or so, we do tours of the area, ghost tours or whatever. And Oxford, there's something called the Eagle and Child Pub. And there was a group of writers called the Inklings. They called themselves the Inklings, including Tolkien and C.S. Lewis. And they all got together on a regular basis and just talked and shared and wrote together. And I'm not saying that the six of you on the board of the Utah group are the technology version of the Inklings, but that's how we grow is through our connections to other people. So absolutely, like if your user group is struggling right now, that's okay. And I'm saying this to everyone, not just you. It's okay that it's struggling, keep going, keep fighting, keep coming up with new ways to get people in there. And who knows, maybe you'll be the technological version of C.S. Lewis, I don't know. You know, it is something that, I mean, technology is cyclical around this. You're exactly right, because we're thinking like, hey, we're looking for speakers for that. By the way, we're always looking for speakers for Utah for the user group. If you'd like to present on any Microsoft technology in the Microsoft 365 stack, ping me. But that we realized exactly to your point is that we're all super busy. So we're engaged, like it's a busy time for anybody that's, especially in the collaboration arena around Microsoft technologies. It is just growing gangbusters. So most of the lack of participation from a lot of leadership is usually because we're just too dang busy to break off. And like, but we did our first in-person user group two months ago. I couldn't go because I had me right up until, like I was there online, but I couldn't physically go because the meetings that ended right at the start and I had a meeting after that. And so I just couldn't make it. But we realized that, yeah, the keeping it going part of it because in this cyclical cycle around technology is suddenly there will be something that sparks and then having that benefit of being together and asking questions is shared experiences will come through. The other side of that too is I think is an important lesson for people that are starting up. And I know that you'd agree with this is that there's a lot of fear of people that are like, I'd love to become an MVP. I'd love just to get more and to speak at these events. I'm not an expert, I'll do the air quotes expert on that. And but that's not always what it's about. Part of it is how many times we had in the Seattle user group and the Utah user group were somebody that wasn't the main speaker but they were a first time speaker. And here's the project that I'm working on. This is what we did. And then you kind of take questions to answer questions. That sometimes helps others that are trying to do that. And a lot of times get direct feedback from the audience like, hey, we tried something similar. Here's what we ran into that you haven't experienced yet. And so it's a way for you to learn and improve while helping others validate that they did the right.  Hey, you helped them. Yes. It's funny, you talked about the I'm not an expert imposter syndrome thing. For me, an expert is simply someone who has value to share and also has an ego. Cause you have to have a particularly large ego to call yourself an expert. And that's not knocking anybody who does. And there are valid experts out there. But then there's also the people that should be the experts like Microsoft product team members that are building these solutions. People that aren't aware of this, they have go-to MVPs and non-MVP just experts out in the field that they get answers to questions that they have about the technology they're building. Yep, yep. So yeah, absolutely. If you don't think you are an expert enough in something, and I have one of the SES at Avpoint where we're talking cause she wants to become an MVP and she's, I had this conversation with her. I'm like, don't worry if you're not an expert, just find something you like talking about and talk about it and watch how that grows. You know what I'm not an expert in? Viva, Viva Insights. But I've now done three presentations on Viva Insights with Craig Janky. And you know, I can talk about it a little bit now. And there aren't a lot. So it's, you don't need to be an expert to work towards becoming an MVP. Well, the one thing that we are experts in more so than Microsoft with whatever technology is, is in our business and what we're actually trying to achieve with that. And the business application of technology, there is no right or wrong answer around those things. That's absolutely correct. Sharing those experiences. That's where a lot of the MVP value ad comes from. Yup. So, I mean, I had this, I've referenced this a number of times, but I had an argument with another speaker at a conference years ago. This was at SB TechCon Boston. I remember in the speaker room having an argument and the point he was trying to make was that, that somebody had written a blog post that had already, that topic had already been covered by the penultimate expert on the subject. And so this person was saying, why did that other person even waste my time, why bother around that? And I said, you know, this is ridiculous that we go and we see all this other content on that topic. That's already been definitively answered. I'm like, you know how ridiculous of a statement is? You know, why would we need search engines if there was only one source for any question out there kind of thing, you know? We need better filters for the information, but that person has a perspective. They have tone and voice and writing style that may just find more readable. I went and read that blog post and liked it out of spite for that person. That's, first of all, I love your response to it. There's a cartoon going around right now where I think it's two foxes and one of them has a box. All the reasons they have to live for. And the other one opens the box and says, there's nothing in here, but a piece of paper that says spite. So I think that's a fantastic reason to go read and like it, but you're absolutely right. If you have a unique perspective on something and you should share it, who cares if Scott Hanselman wrote a blog post on development, like go write your own blog post on it. And I'm not saying that's what it was, by the way. I'm just growing names out. I would argue, Jay, that even if you don't have a unique position on anything, but you're good at getting the community engaged and figuring out the information that others do. I mean, there's a lot of value in just that connector personality type. Absolutely, that's, I definitely get by by being a connector of experts because I am very, I am not an expert. I think that's like the, if we're looking at themes of like internally, I'm sure you agree with this, because I just had a, before we, what started talking on this chat, there's a thread going on where we're trying to find somebody, we had a speaker back out for a webinar, we're trying to find a new one. So the whole conversation is, who do we know that's around this? We're talking names, we're sharing information. Like every day there's something like that where we're connecting. I'm like, hey, do you know this person? They would be fantastic if we could get them in on this or we should ask that person this, for their expertise here to lend a hand. So, yeah, in fact, I just reached out, I've got somebody that's brand new, probably joining our App Point Champions, Community Champions program, and writing some content for us. That's fantastic. Where are we just, the goal? The content team said, hey, we'd love to have somebody come in and provide this expertise, this perspective. And I'm like, I know a guy. Yep, yep, so. No, that's awesome. And the connector's job in the MVP world and in any world is really interesting too, because that's one of the things that I try to focus on is as a connector, as someone who runs a user group and podcasts and a conference, I also try to showcase, and I'm gonna say this as a white guy, talking to a white guy, is I also try to showcase diversity wherever possible, because we're not all the same, not just in our knowledge and in our abilities, but in who we are and where we come from. So that's the other piece that I focus on a lot is as a connector, trying to help connect people who may not have the same connections and privileges I have. It's one of the reasons, one of the things I'm proud about on this series is reaching out to MVPs around the world. So not just, we're Office Apps and Services, so we're SharePoint teams, that Office applications experts, that's our focus area. And I started this because I wanted to get breakout of what originally I was a SharePoint MVP. I wanted to break out of that group and get to know others, Azure MVPs, developer MVPs, or the, what is it, mobility MVPs and kind of all those different areas. Government MVPs, I'm kidding, that doesn't exist. And around the world and plug that in. So folks that, I hope when we get back to in-person MVP summits, that we'll see some of these folks that fly in from around the world. And I know that Microsoft, it's yet to be seen whether we have to do another virtual which would be really sad, because it's, but if they do it, they've talked about figuring out a way to do a hybrid version of that. That would be interesting. Because there's typically about 4,000 MVPs from around the world that get together and- That's amazing. Or wait, no, is there 4,000 MVPs and like two thirds of them come in? Anyway, there's a huge chunk that can never make it. Yep. And so a way to involve them in that. So it's great that Microsoft is thinking about that, but hopefully we get to go hang out for a week in Redmond. Yeah, as somebody who's been running virtual conferences and participated in a few, I hope that the future of conferences in a quote unquote post pandemic world, because I don't know what that's actually gonna look like in general is a hybrid environment. Because the in-person, having with NACS and SPFest Chicago over the past couple of months, like it was a reminder of how much you get out of being in-person. However, what we've seen over the last 18 months is not only can working from home be successful, but actually the diversity of information and people and connections you can make in virtual conferences cannot match in-person. And so I hope we get to see this hybrid concept moving forward so that we can have more diversity of idea and sharing of information. Bring them both together and let's see what we can do. I think it'd be amazing. Yeah, I know that there are vendors that have solutions where they've tried to solve aspects of it. I had just not seen anything that gets close to having that the serendipitous connectivity, just running into somebody like, hey! Yes. What's your name again?  No, that doesn't happen to me. Hey, you! That's the phrase, you know? Oh, but just running into people, seeing people like that and then having to go like, let's catch up, like what are you doing? Oh, you're doing that. Well, we should really talk. Wow, because this is what I'm doing now. Those kinds of hallway meetings or, it's just, it's amazing to have those experiences. Agreed. Well, very cool. Jay, thanks so much for finally. Well, again, last time we talked, we interviewed you were not an MVP. So, hey. I know, right? Yeah, it's a brand new congratulations again on that. Folks that want to be able to follow you, find you, what are the best ways to reach you? So the easiest thing to do is go to j.leask.com. So J-A-Y dot L-E-A-S-K dot com. That is a hub for everything else I do. You can get my blogs from there. You can find a link to my articles on AvePoint. Social media is there. So do that. And maybe I'll go update and make sure that it's all actually listed there properly now that I've said it is. Awesome. I love when people reference it, like go check out my blog and I go, oh, awesome. Let me look at it. Oh, last post December 2019. Nice. No, it's more recent than that. It is. It's definitely more. More than 2020. Awesome. And I've actually, I'll say this. So listen, as a new MVP, what I've learned is every week I schedule a half hour for me to just sit down and go, what did I do this past week? Oh, and you know, okay, I wrote this article or I interviewed this person. And so now I'm starting to get into that cadence because you forget. So, yeah. Let me give you my advice on this. So this is something where, because years ago, you may be shocked to hear this. I had a real difficult time with the self promotion like this summer. I was like, hey, I definitely want to hear that. Right. When I became an evangelist for the first ISV after I left Microsoft, I was doing it internally. I started, I didn't want to do a newsletter, but what I did was I just started providing an email monthly that went through and said, here's everything that I did. Here's every webinar and every conference. Here are the slide share presentations to each of those. Here's a blog post. Yes. These are the interview that I did that was published elsewhere. So I had that complete catalog. Then I got a little bit trickier. I started then categorizing them. Like, oh, nice. Here's everything around collaboration or around migration. Here's everything around governance. Here's everything. And I would package it that way and send it out there. Then I started, I've been blogging on my current blog platform since 2002. Yep. It was on TypePad and I moved it over to WordPress. And I do a monthly summary. So you can find it. I saw that. My monthly content wrap up. I really like that idea. And in my head, I've already stolen it. Yeah. It's not on my blog yet, but it's in my head. It's just a great way, because then for those again, or MVPs, we have to go and input all of our contributions into one location. So Microsoft can see all the things that we did. But it's a great way for me just to keep in my memory banks, all of the other things that I've done. And sometimes I forget to be like, oh yeah, that got published on CMSWire. I forgot to put that in for my June. And so I'll go back and update the June to put the asset in there. It's not about, oh, hey, the time has passed and I published the blog post. It's live. Like, no, that's my archive. That's the extension of my brain of my memory banks. Yeah. You know what I wanna see, and this is my last tangent. I wanna see a hundred years from now, like how have we augmented our brain? Because you're talking about a very two dimensional way to augment your brain. Jot it down and, hey, now I can go back to my blog and I can look at that category and I can see all those things. Like I wanna see a hundred years from now, which I clearly won't.  Because it's insane. Jay, our brains will be alive in jars as part of library. We'll be there. We'll be conversing. And yet again, the Simpsons will have predicted exactly how life will go. The Simpsons slash matrix world. Come on. I mean, you've seen the ads for matrix resurrection.  Don't talk. I haven't seen it. I haven't looked at it yet. Oh, go check it out. I looked at the website and I thought it was, it's the simplest thing, but the most brilliant thing where they put in the time, your local time in, oh man, that blew my mind. Okay, I'm done. I am, I am. All right. Hey Jay, well, thanks a lot for connecting. We'll, I'll see you probably some other meeting later today. See you later today. Thank you, Christian. This is an awesome show that you do. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you.


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Man, it's good to have you man For sure, I appreciate it man Man, you know me, I be cutting up man This is where I first met you at man Oh yeah, that's how to run your Ah, that nigga tried to get rid of me man At least three times He tried to run you out three times Yeah, and I told my wife And you had to go over there by yourself Yeah, I went back there Yeah, I said I'm often going to get this man One thing about it man, I know already When we come man, cheat a nice one I'm the crazy one So you know, it takes both the yin and yang He was, he wasn't even saying nothing He just be like, let them get to the bed You been busy man, I've been really watching And really like checking you out Every since we locked in with you The cool thing was already the relationship We had every since 08 But then when you got with them You know me, I'm nose is hell So I'm like man, what the hell going on With this whole movement, you know what I'm saying And I've been liking what I've been seeing man Real talk, I see you got You was in like a big trailer or something Yeah, so we got a 52 foot enclosed trailer That we take the race cars with all over the country with So you know a cool one of the partners With the collab, they actually wrap the trailer At something they designed in the house So yeah, we got the cars on there Got a picture of me on this smiling cheese Then we got all the stuff on there So that's like a moving bill For what we doing Man, I've seen the times come off I've seen you on YouTube So you're watching my dumb ass TV Yeah, so on dumb ass TV We document a lot of behind the scenes stuff So you know we have one that shoots that And then also G-Daw 803 shoots the Racing in the movie, like a movie type thing So yeah behind the scenes, a lot of people Like to see the behind the scenes But they like to see the races too So we try to give them insight on what we doing every day I think that you guys, the way you guys are doing it I have never seen this done before like this I'm being real, you see people who race Like, but you don't see people who take it To the level that you guys are taking it to You know what I'm saying, and that's the part right there They really caught me by surprise Like okay, you seem to get to just go to the track But you guys are doing something totally different Y'all really Even when you look back at when they used to do Those car hook up shows and stuff It's still different, it feel like it's for me It's for our culture It's for our culture, that's what it's about You know what I mean, it's ours So that's why we came up with the NDRA It's the National Don't Racing Association And when we do events, it's an experience So like my lady always say Baby girl Florida, she like to say It's an experience, you want to go somewhere And don't forget it, you know what I'm saying It don't matter if you spent $10, $20 Whatever the case may be to get into these events You're going to experience it, you're not going to forget it And that's what we like to do Man, I just love the way that, like I said I love the finishing touches man I seen somewhere y'all was giving a car away Oh yeah, right now we doing a big car giveaway With Carlos Middle of 85 South Wild'n Out So me and him parting up to give away a car So we doing raffle tickets You can go to Don't Matter TV Or you can go to my website I can get one? Anybody can get one I'm trying to win it Yeah, the candy blue with the big block I'm like if I can win that If I can win that What's the website you can go get it from The website is internetoutcustoms.com So if you go to internetoutcustoms.com You'll see a big on there The giveaway is going to be over September 10th For Fast & Flash our 8th annual event The original Big Wheel show that started All the Big Wheel racing all over the United States So you can get that car It's full of music, candy paint Custom interior by Stitch by Slick One of the best interior men in the United States You mentioned them last time you got it Oh yeah for sure, that's my dog So he do what he do I've seen you guys, man You guys been moving and being productive I've seen you guys I've seen you went to the Rick Ross car show Y'all always just busy Like I said, y'all don't stop Every city, city, state to state I've been there, you really rocking it You gotta say it right City to city, state to state That boy is there Oh yeah, that's what y'all do If you said the Rick Ross stuff We actually unveiled my lady Bite And she's the only woman who rides At 34 which we a Harley bag So we actually unveiled it at that show We got a lot of press, a lot of, you know We do stuff everywhere, we do something different Try to leave out Mark everywhere we go Yeah, it's just dope to see how you roll Man, like I said, I've never seen it before I seen niggas pull old trucks to the Race track You know what I'm saying, but you guys do it in style I got out there that day after I interviewed you And I seen how y'all was doing it Oh man, me and my lady You know the first race out there She's seeing you, you know what I'm saying You got the cars shooting all type of stuff Out the side of it, you niggas is out there Real fly, you know what I'm saying Yeah, you didn't forget it though It was an experience, you know what I'm saying So what do you remember from that though Man, I just, really to be honest with you When I see you, I see you Like dealing with the merchant, dealing with the people And they showing you so much love That's the part that really touched me But then at the end of the day That get me going too But, like I said, really just Your whole presence in the way you come In the way different city to city State to state, they embracing you It just showed that it's a big Big gap that was needed to be filled And you filled it the right way, you know what I'm saying Yeah, and that's what we need bro Our people need any type of Anything to motivate us, man Anything to show that we can do something, man That's what I'm about, you know what I'm saying What you think about it, Monty Moser If you can motivate anybody around you You can do something Yeah, definitely And you one of them got I got a problem with that too I've been trying to help people out They've been giving me attitude like I'm tripping Well that's just the devil trying to take you out Take a deal man, not me I'm gonna miss another curse How's the show being, man You've been up here now This is your second show, right?   I got five kids myself A good example for them When I'm doing stuff like that I remember when I used to look up to my heroes People that I motivated me I would always want to see Michael Jordan The past one players and stuff like that So just for being able to talk to them That's the big deal I really know that Coming up I used to have heroes But really most of them was basketball players When you look at races You didn't really see a lot of our culture In these races Doing these things They would kind of keep us out of it You might see my dad go down up the street Running If the laws catch him, hell he going to jail But I'm just saying like just the real The NASCAR feel And the ones that was really out there doing it It was people that didn't look like us And I know you've seen that coming up That's definitely for sure So like in the race world Too many African-Americans doing it Especially on this level I'm trying to set a standard in the tone Of what it should be and how you should move So that's a lot of things that we like to do Because people in the beginning They thought it was, they couldn't do it They thought it was unheard of How can you take five cars and put them Taking a California sell out a racetrack With 17,000 people That was something they never heard of Because nobody never done it before So after we started doing this Different people trying to take cars all over the country You know what I'm saying, so like Matter of fact just like, what's the, Lynn from Turkey Yeah, he put the 40 something cars And took in the Rick Ross Ain't nobody never did none of that stuff before me So that's all this stuff is coming from Some place, you know what I'm saying So I feel that if we come with this 18 wheeler Travelling city, city, state, state They had to see it on YouTube, we got hundreds of millions of views Of doing it, you know what I'm saying So that's what it just, I just see that People were setting the trends For what it is Out at the show I seen it It was a cut list out there Tell me a little bit about that car And kind of how you end up with the cut That on the show And not the black one, the purple one Oh yeah, the purple one, so the purple color is actually My partner from Vegas, Longs Vegas Double O and that's his wife's car So his wife got the car, they did it Probably six, seven years ago here in Vegas So he has a different, a bunch of cars So he got probably seven, eight old schools What we do, he do, you know what I'm saying, we have it Because we opened up a shop here In our cousin West here in a little while So this is just one of the cars that they have And they're stable and With the candy cane and everything How did y'all link up? How did you even Learn to know about them? I met them at the racetrack in Sacramento About 2017 So we've seen them back and forth on social media When they come to Atlanta, the stunt fest MJ the stunt man, who do stunt fests out of the MJ We've been doing that for years We've traveled across country to go to that show So when we did a show in Sacramento for the first time In 2017, he brought The green blower car And he raced it one of the other cars that we had After that, we just started talking to The politics and the things that stuff out And we came to this Hey, I'm going to be real with you man Got me an old car Not the one I showed you to surveil I'm not playing with that But that's 20 years old, my dad and me rode in it He died and he didn't want me to do None to it But this new one I got I told Carlos the other day When you put me on the phone with a n***a It's time Say the GTO You know all the metal work All that got to be done You seen it, it's a real But you know Carlos got host power in his car You got to help me I'll just let you know You got to help me I can't really just talk You got to walk that walk But that walk is very heavy You got to have everything right Your money can't jiggle jiggle It got in the fold It can't jiggle jiggle How much man And I'm not talking about Carlos all together But just to go all the way in And make something to your taste Because you don't cut no coins How do you get to that point Man on these cars And what dollar amount You got your blood pressure medicine You got your blood pressure medicine I'm comfortable It depends on what you want If you want a cruiser You got to be convertible If you got a hard top You can have anywhere from 60 to 100,000 That's a nice cruiser If you want these race cars You can have about a quarter Mean in the car Over and over again Ain't no one quarter mean Man boy Say man you know what I'm saying I'm about to put something on it You got to put something on it You can't run up on me like this And nigga everything lost I'm all later going to leave man Say But that's the good thing about it though To see it like in the condition Mine is in when I just got And then take that thing to the whole next level Like when you see it from the beginning To the end you're proud of what you just done But see you've Parted with some price pieces In over the years Is it any that sticks out to you That you got rid of that you were like man you know what Man I missed that old car A lot of the cars I do keep I still got my very first car From 9th to 7th I still got it But I like a lot of dumpster stuff That I built over the years I sold them to pro-athletes, movie stars But I can just build them again To serve this purpose you know what I'm saying I'm going to build a new one I always like to top myself So like once I build one, if it's good I want to build another one better than that one Give me that graveyard Incident where you found one I seen you pull one out I didn't know what that was How the woods How do you What's the one that you found That you like dang man this in here I didn't think it would have been in here Was it that one? What you see me is actually my junkyard Me and my partner owned some property In South Carolina and he had cars There over the years you know what I'm saying I was building cars for 20 years So I might have cars I don't forget about It might be a tree grown too We might go to cut tree down Go pull a car Get the parts off of what we need for this new project But there's some cars out there We got a 1958 Apache truck out there I'm going to pull that one out And redo that it's still in pretty good shape So that's one of the trucks that I forgot About What are you going to do to that one We probably end up doing something with an LS Corvette motor, twin turbos Something about 1500 horsepower 6B transmission driving On the weekends with a little bit of AC Have anybody ever just stop you and say Man I need that car and you're like Nah I ain't trying to sell it You have the right price And they come with the bag And what I do is look at my phone And they'll call in your title That's what I did That's it, that's how it goes Last time we talked about the I was telling you about the white guys I know that once they see you Doing this whole thing You're like I'm the dunk master These incidents are going to Continue to happen where people They see what you're doing And you're a trend seller So people are going to come behind you And try to figure it out Because of the way you be carrying on On this YouTube They always try to replicate What I create I like that He got the right name for it I don't want to wrap up I'm going to try to turn it around But whenever they do that We got a different approach We go call them on the phone If not we'll send an email If they don't answer we might go to These shops and say how y'all doing It's very simple we're not hard to get along with We want to feed our family just like they do They want to do something They can hit us up It's offensive to have people to come up And try to really Replicate what you've worked so hard To try and then recondition it in a way Because see most of the time That's copyright infringement They're not using big words when you do stuff like that You know what I'm saying? Or you trying to change something Benefit off of it without paying dues When you know already Like on franchise you can get in trouble For stuff when you start doing stuff I'm McDonald's, I'm McDowell That's not going to work You got the sesame seed This one don't have seeds on the bun And that's what they be trying to do A lot of times But it's like in the street we say pay homage So they don't want to pay homage Or just respect, they disrespect me So that's what it feel like They don't do anything and they're racing on big wheels Y'all ain't started that Y'all know who started this Because we got hundreds of millions of views on YouTube We on TV with millions of views Y'all know who I am They know how to get in contact with me A lot of these people have my phone number Don't disrespect me and take it like it's yours And then try to change it around And then once you get to a level You want me to hold you in the air so you can piss on me That don't work like that You want to eat and make some money Let me eat and make some money too That's all it is And I think it's got to be respect Shout out to Jay Prince That's one of the books he got called Respect A lot of times people They don't understand that word But in the game where It's our people and our culture We got to make people believe and understand You don't have to take nothing These ideas ain't coming out of thin air Some of the stuff we take I shout out Florida all the time I was going in when I was young My father when I was going to his house He stayed in Liberty City I've been around the Haitians I didn't see any chefies and cars When I seen it all I did was take it to another level That's it They were riding up and down the street Organized it and put it in the racetrack That's what I did That's all I did Shout out to Murph Dog RRP Who else all of this That's what I do I'm like Tariq Ross All these different people were down there A lot of them were saying this and saying that It wasn't no racing It was just a car show Networking and everything I hate how I miss it I really want to come down there and be nose as hell Cause I'm a nosy nigga I come down like What's going on with this My father called me He was like what the hell Why we wasn't down there I was sleeping on a car I've been so busy But my boy down there That's the only one I really seen That I really rock with You made me really look at it I heard Rick Ross talking But I didn't know Rick Ross For really being in these streets with the cars But he got the dope look The nigga got the look down there He got all of the old's around there Then he got all his rap stuff going So I really can't See the cars just blurred by all the money Around there That's definitely that Shout out to 57 Freddy Rick Ross for putting together They did put something together We had insight on that They don't tell a lot of people that they talked to me about that So they talked to you before it even We talked about it So I don't have no plan thing about it We did have talks about it And what to do and how to do it And we did that So we did what we had to do with it A big event like that Is this the first one that they've done Or why they just held it in a place like that Yeah, that's the first one 57 Freddy and them They actually hosted their own car show We've been hosting car shows for over 20 years And then we've been going to places like California, 17,000 Texas, 15,000 New York, you know what I'm saying Florida, Georgia, everywhere When they hit y'all up And you guys come together like that What is the purpose What is the thing that you guys would like to see Come out of stuff like that Stuff like that is what we see is growth You know what I'm saying, as far as growth And giving people the right knowledge So we don't want people getting on TV misrepresenting the car We don't want them saying This is a dunk and that's a damn Chevelle Watch your mouth! But I'm just saying we want to make sure The education is there with it And we want to make sure people understand it And this is for while we're doing it Because like you said, people to see it They want to just grab it You can't just grab this This is a porcupine So you need to make sure They're giving the right story Like I said, you got a lot of guys out there Shout out to all those boys to do it I see a lot of guys that's repping these old cars Me and my wife We went down by the turkey leg We didn't go to a lot of these different places And you see the cars Lined out out there Like I said, I had seen yours And I thought about you when I was down there To be honest with you It wasn't like yours for me The rims and the interior I think you take it a little bit further Than I see other people take it Just to have an old car I got an old car But when I look at your car, it's a different feel Than what I see in others' cars In my car, my car and your car are different I'm all factory And I'm not doing the L.S. thing But like I said, I'm coming for y'all You niggas gonna eat it I'm gonna make y'all feel me You gotta take some money though No, it's gonna take a lot Like I said, he got the phone Or he got to be a wire train Who's gonna drive it?  Oh yeah, I do it all the time That's why I get one seat in my car now Nobody else in there no more That's what I like to do Just like my cars, a lot of cars we do 2,000 horsepower Just like all these cars A lot of the boys like you said They don't have the race car motors As of yet They're watching and talking right now They're watching and seeing what's going on But it takes a lot of knowledge And a lot of connections and resources It takes more than money to do what we're doing Just like we sit up here 30 floors up Right now talking to Mike It's connections and resources And that's what it's about Like I said, I see guys That's the part that really Kind of, I don't It's a way that you do it That's all I'm saying When you guys have been doing it And you guys have made it look a certain way And you want to step into that realm But you don't have to respect other people That's already doing it That look like us That's not good Anybody that does that That's the part where I would be furious And be like, boss talk 101 You know, I've heard niggas say I'm going to do rap talk 101 They need to be tripping We're going to do They'll put the 101 on They're trying to replicate But they don't want to even like And then one of my guys with me last time I was in Vegas Shout out Watts It was somebody trying to get a podcast And he was like, I was helping them Telling them different stuff And I was like Is they on prime time? I said no I don't need you to call me He's like If you want the help You need to come into the whole Show the respect and the love I always say it ain't on you So if you don't love it You ain't going to want to do it The stuff that I done did And broke and tore up on these calls To make sure they're safe for the next man 15 years ago You got to love it If you don't love it The stuff I'm doing Is make sure it's safe for them So like I'm passing the torch to them But they don't want to say I'm passing it to them But now they can make one phone call And buy these shocks that I have That I've been testing for 10 years They can make one phone call And by this transmission I've been testing for 10 years They can make this phone call And buy these tires, this camshaft And they just disrespect me in that way So when I say bro you couldn't order this 5 years ago Because it didn't exist I'm the creator of this They don't want to do that Because they feel they have more money than me Yeah they don't got more knowledge than I do They don't have the knowledge I mean you know our people are perished Because they lack of knowledge So if you don't have the knowledge I don't care if you don't have the knowledge Let me go there, King Solomon had the knowledge But at the end of the day It was a description where he had to get Some stuff From King Hiram Abif In the book, in the good book So you got to be careful when you But the word says that he was the wisest man Ever to live, the richest wisest King Solomon was the richest wisest But when you go in the book And you start to look and see King Hiram Abif You'd be like how the hell Why is he letting him borrow something Why is King Hiram helping him with the temple So it's like people Things are there for people like what you're saying Where people don't want to say This person is that but God still Show you in a way You can't leave this one out You can't, you should get a favor You got to pray and sit out of the way A lot of people let money get in the way A lot of times it'll be no money It's one phone call, you can say what's up with you And I can make a lot of stuff happen, no problem Take a lot of stress on you Man I got to tell you thank you too man Just for always answering the phone when I call Man my little King folk man He always want to see you Talk to you or something You never turn me down I want to say thank you man Thank you for supporting boss talk 101 Last time me and you talked a couple of times After the show came out I'll be nervous about that Because I want to make sure it's right We love and we don't want to lose Nothing that God gives us And I respect you So when we doing our thing We watch it too Every time I walk in the house Every time I walk in the house it's on the TV And then they do the post He had a shop but they got a clothes down That's why he used to watch it Trying to see which way to go Watching you Man you know what I mean He got one man, he got a truck A struck bed truck he put together from Frame all the way up The thing is man once I talked to you Last time you was on the show You know how many people came out of the woodwork Nigga them niggas want to know You know him, I raised him Told Joe I'm like I don't care Nigga I don't let this nigga everybody Talk about They want to figure out So why didn't they call you before They didn't know But they really looking for you Hate when people do that It's been a few people that have been on boss talk 101 If you hit me up And the first thing I do I look at And if he ain't on your level And doing what you're doing I'm not fit to put him in that conversation Man let me come on the show I want to talk about A dunk man, I'm going to talk about saving But your numbers ain't right Your credentials, your input The people not looking for you like that Why would I put you on my show I'm just being real that's what I think Cause I want to make sure That this thing is right because We ain't out here trying to paint no We don't want to paint no Why Jesus Supporting documentation Everything that I do will say You can look it up You can google it Check it out Let's talk about this Ruchi, get your Gucci When I seen you say that He got some shoes That's the real part We got Ruchi shoes We got the Ruchi wheels They the main fact of the wheel So where the shoes come from They make those too as Ruchi He said they got the Ruchi shoes I said they ain't got the Ruchi rim They got the Ruchi shoes The Ruchi wheels Just tell me about how you even come up into that whole situation Okay so Ruchi When I first got out of prayer I did like 7 months after that So when I got out I put it on the internet I had one before They wasn't doing what they supposed to do They ain't handling the business right So I told the world I said I'm looking for a new wheel Sponsored for the skills pack It was like 5 of them hit me I listened to all what they had to say Talked to them, talked to the people And we went with Ruchi So they make the wheels for us They been making us for now since 2019 So Ruchi wheels So every company that I partnered with I come up with a slogan or a catchphrase And move people So Ruchi Since everybody get put wheels on their car The girls love the flashy cars So Ruchi get your Gucci It's simple as that And it took off and it started out selling Every wheel line in the entire world Wow in the entire world Listen to what I'm telling you In 2019 they had 11 machines In the shop in 2019 In 2021 He had a warehouse that was 16,000 square feet 11 machines in California In 2021 he had to move and get 60,000 square feet and 34 CNC machines What the hell So Ruchi wheels is international They sell them in Japan They sell a couple of people in Australia All over the place, they all over the entire world And he respects you because he know That the promo helped him to push it to that Did you all do it together? Yeah we got it together Make sure to check it out You know what I mean Ruchi get your Gucci He's making it right What was that when I seen the shoes Like the clothes talking So you got hats and shoes They set the standards, set the trends Did they do that just for After all this Start to happen and success? After everything started happening We were selling a lot of hats and t-shirts And merchandise and stuff like that He wanted to try it And they do sell pretty good But you know what I mean He just wanted to do Nick the owner Did you ever think there would come a time When you would say something like that And things would just change? No, I didn't tell you no lie I didn't tell you how this came about We went to the factory to go to the factory He told us he fluids the California first class We eat and drink our goods Smoking big Cubans and all that So we walked through the factory I said damn there was a lot of Ruchi's in here I just kept looking around I said Ruchi get you Kuchy, now I went live When I said that they were live I talked about 3-4,000 people on live And started saying that Like the next 3-4 days The phone started ringing though And the orders went from here to here It was out of control at one point And then even in Corona when the COVID hit It still was out of control It was out of control That's the dope part about the internet We didn't have this whole thing Where we could have this much power To where you could just say something And lies would change Immediately things can change So, you know You're getting used to having that kind of power I got to watch that What we doing next?  Let me get a pack of jacuzzi You know what I'm saying?  Yeah and a lot of research and trust That goes in with these people Because without people there behind time So I want to educate them and make it a lot easier for them So if they see it on me, they can be like Oh what is that? But all they have to do Go to K1 and say I want my dunk master guy There's a certain kind of safety suit They go already, they make it, measure them Make it for them, they want a custom one They want one on the shelf, they can get on the shelf But I want to make every transition pretty easy For them to do so Like when you did the race last year It was like you was winning everything How was you winning? My car fast You be winning but I take a lot of time And I'm an engines transmission And I do what I need to do with it How many people actually want to bet you when you go out there? See them now it's getting a little bit harder To get you the bet The money getting high but then they know Their chances of winning is a lot slimmer So it's different competitors So some competitors that I have want to bet some And some of them don't want to bet nothing at all So the day you won that 30,000 Someone close to that How many people you raced with? We on the money again We on the money again What race was that? It was like I seen in the video The last video that I seen on YouTube Like you won 30,000 How many people did you race to win all of it? No, we just won the race a lot of the time You know what I'm saying, we better together So the whole team will bet the money Some of them like that And some of them do sometimes be one race And sometimes be a lot of different cars But a lot of times we just have one race So what was the fastest car you ever had? The fastest car I ever had was the actual The fastest dunker I had Was the Z06 dunk But the fastest race car I had A couple of Mustangs back in the day They used to run like 4 seconds in the 8th mile That's one of the fastest cars I had Oh yeah, like a notch body From the trunk body Mustang Yeah I'm gonna get one Tell me about Easy Money He had wrecked his car, how's he doing?  All the time, I don't see people brain smelting That's what I think so So when you've seen him It's probably a scare or adrenaline rush To try to help these people get out of the car What was that day like? Did you have to take off running? Or did they have somebody down there already? The ambulance was already out there So when he actually started flipping Everybody started running on the racetrack So once you got there It was probably 40-50 people around Because people on the side actually jumped over to the track And it was there But you don't want to run up on a race car That flip like that because it can catch fire So that's another thing that can actually explode So they try to make sure everybody stays back And then they actually got them And they had to cut the car to get them out of the car But it was real And that's why I keep preaching safety He didn't have one of your suits on though He had a suit He had a helmet and he had a road cage Like he was pretty good With the safety of the people who built this car So his stuff was put together pretty good And he survived But other than that He got out of the car They took him to the hospital Do you think that Is it something where you feel like They need to put a checklist together Before these guys go down the track? Yeah we have If you race in an NDRA Your car has to have a lot of different safety things on it So like if they just doing big wheel racing Now the tracks have tech at the racetrack To check these cars So you got to have like an engine diaper In case your motor is leaking Have a transmission blink In case your transmission blow up You need a certain size wheel stud Which would be a 5-8 wheel stud If you're car going at a certain speed You need a road cage Then you would need a fire system in your car also Stuff like that So that's mandatory to have And people should want to have it because it's protecting you It ain't protecting nobody else But the person driving the race car So you should want it like on all our vehicles We have that With the NDRA it's an actual You got to have it's mandatory So the NDRA it keeps a set standard On how people need to be Is there like a way to sign up Like if I want to rock with Sage Thomas And Dunk Mouse And he's doing things Like a car club but really more intense Like for me to understand How to develop into this world Is there a way to connect like that You see what I'm saying You can go to NDRAUSA.com Is it a sign in bonus or something To be to do it or what it should be There's a few you sign up and then that way You get all the information and then you actually Connect to all the partners and sponsors That NDRA has So you also get discounts All the videographers and all the different commercials Once you sign up to the NDRA You're on another pedestal So you're actually going to get part and taught How to market in a lot of different ways So it's just not just signing up to the club You're actually going to learn something You're going to benefit from it How many people have already joined Right now we're over about a hundred actual racers Yeah we're over about a hundred actual racers And that's the sign up This is our second year doing it It should be a moment It's going to get more and more It's going to get faster and faster And the reason it's doing that is because of the race tracks So a race track see a wreck like easy money You know what I'm saying that's opened a lot of eyes To the race tracks like wow these cars are really that fast So are they really that safe So certain race tracks won't let Big wheel cars run because some of the cars Not up to the spec And that's what I'm trying to tell my fellow racers Like bro you either have to get your cars up to the spec Are you only limited to running these race tracks Or are you sign up for the NDRA Where we make sure everything is up to the spec I think that's dope man that's live because You're saving lives too They do it that way because you taking parameters that Just so you know the more boys I used to watch He's saving lives two ways Yeah for real That's crazy because Like I said you taking it to another level Then from the guys that even you Would talk about when you were young Because they were older Your uncle you talked about last time They would be proud To see you doing the things that you do My uncle buddy He's seen the podcast Like he called me He liked it He was surprised but he didn't go to the M.P.A. He knew the M.P.A. was like I remember that that's what I thought about My uncle buddy But he seen my video He's 72 years old right now What he doing on YouTube His wife had to turn TV on for him You know my uncle But he look young now So he got a young wife Yeah he liked it He liked it he had a good time See I told you man Hey Carlos Miller I'm coming for you I told you that the other day I'm getting good at this you niggas You know how I do it You need to let it real That's crazy he said he's gonna do it a long time ago He's gonna be Just getting on the podcast I'll be just having a good time So I knew it was gonna be wild But it ain't cost you no money it's just a connection resource Correct That's it man I'm learning man That's the one thing you gotta be humbling up to learn bro You know what I'm saying like I said again Thank you man for showing us the love And embracing the show man Like I say I see the M.P.A. now I didn't understand it first but I do now Because now I'm watching I'm like man this dude It really be working like I really support what you're doing Because a lot of dudes that talk to talk Don't have a sponsorship Not able to communicate with people All this stuff matters How you communicate and do business matters so much man You know what I'm saying so Like I said I'm gonna be watching and I'm gonna be trying to figure out how to You know get my old school in there Where I can meddle and talk crazy to niggas You know and get me a driver I got to have a driver I know she was driving a thing She was driving a car So man you know I definitely I want to My wife want to talk to your girl for sure But we get out of here cause we're gonna Shut it down man but we coming right back Cause we gotta get over it this time Cause my wife like we gotta talk about that bike See hoping like hell We don't you know really make no real connection Because she want a damn bike But I'm trying to fix that old car You know what I'm talking about I say I hear you man I love the way y'all chemistry I ride and we all support each other Man that's dope to have that man You know how the kids doing I'm gonna say that before we get out of here School just started back Mine started yesterday No today They ain't got no cars They young right My oldest one is 14 He's by red Is he riding around the block yet He be driving That nigga scared I'm over there like pull this man Move this man Why you turning wise They do that crazy Do you have like an old Like a pathway he can ride around I tried to have my shop a couple times And then I take him out to the country You know what I'm saying let him just ride in the country But he working I'm nervous now but he doing it He think he gonna be a racer too You know that My youngest one He really gonna be a racer Man so man thank you We love you for shows say AK8 or dump mouse to zero I'm making it commercial I'm making it commercial We appreciate you man Make sure you like and subscribe to our channel Man you see how we doing We got the dump master man When you got the dump master you know you good It's all over the first time Second time Make sure they go to dump master tv on my youtube channel My instagram one underscore dump master And check me out That boy ready man Check it man Hey man it's been another great segment Of boss talk 101 What a boss is out


Some of you are interested in learning the signs of emotional abuse. Well, what Jake Paul is doing to Erica Costell extremely publicly is a great example of what emotional abuse looks like. What is up everybody? This is Chris from the Rewired Soul where we talk about the problem, but focus on the solution. And if you're new to my channel, my channel is all about mental health. And what I like to do is pull different topics from the YouTube community, try to teach you how to improve your mental and emotional well-being. So if you're into that stuff, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell. So this video, this video right here is actually a collaboration with my lovely mother, Dr. Kerry Randazzo. So make sure you check out the info card as well as the link below. Her and I did a whole video about abusive relationships, the signs to look for, what to do to get out of them, how to heal afterwards. So make sure you go check that video out right after this one. All right, cool. So anyways, yeah, I just got done watching the new iNabber video and I was going to do a different video on relationships of watching iNabber's video. I'm like, oh my God, right? Because Jake Paul and what he is doing to Erica Costell is it's emotional abuse. It is. And like it makes me, it makes me regret like half the videos I made during the whole Shane Dawson in the mind of Jake Paul series. Like I wish I would have been harder explaining how this guy is such just a not great person, you know, and I'm sure you can think of better words and worse words than what I just used. But anyways, watching iNabber's video and discussing like what Jake is doing with these like kids right here, it's awful. And let me talk about this real quick. This is this is also a parenting issue, right? And parents trying to get their kids famous and all this other stuff, putting their kids in these situations is just terrible.  You know what I mean? Like, oh, my kid's going to be internet famous and he's hanging out with Jake Paul and you know, I'm just like, it's it's not cool. So there's my opinion on that. But anyways, I wanted to make this video because what Jake Paul is doing continuing to use Erica Costell and the breakup for his videos is emotional abuse. All right. So before I made this video after watching iNabber's video, I went over to Erica Costell's channel and I was like, okay, are they doing this like back and forth or whatever? Because, you know, this is something that people like Jake Paul does with like he did it with Logan Paul, where they bounce views off of each other to get, you know, boosts in the algorithm. Or you see a lot of this stuff between like Deji and KSI or whatever. So I'm like, okay, like, is this something that like Jake and Erica are doing because they're so friendly, so they're making videos about each other and just kind of getting views. And no, no, I went over to Erica Costell's channel, that girl's just trying to live her life. Right. So like the fact that Jake Paul is doing this is absolutely terrible. So this right here on this screen, all right, it is like the wheel that you look at for signs of abuse, okay, in a relationship. All right. So abuse doesn't have to be physical. Okay. A lot of it is usually emotional, psychological. That's what it is. So I'm only going to focus on a few sections of this. But again, in the video I did with my mom, we cover like all of this. All right, and we go in depth. It's like a 20 minute video. But anyways, anyways, let's look at using emotional abuse. All right, making her think she's crazy. So this is gaslighting. I don't have any proof of this. But what this would look like is there was another wheel that I saw and I said minimizing. And it was like saying that this isn't a big deal. No, I'm not really doing anything. This isn't that you know, I'm not I'm not doing anything to you. You're crazy. Right. So that's a form of gaslighting as well as minimizing. All right. If he's doing this, I don't know like if he's, if he's like said this at any point in time. But I can definitely say when the whole mystery box thing was going on, he was, he was gaslighting everybody over on Twitter by trying to minimize this stuff. Like whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm just promoting a brand. No, man. Now. All right. So another sign of emotional abuse is playing mind games. Like playing mind games.   Some people stay friends. It's different in all, in all ways. And this is a very difficult situation because they're both very, very public figures. All right.  That might be a form of playing mind games. But like him consistently making videos about Erica Costell, that is a mind game. All right. Humiliating her. This is pretty humiliating. Just constantly having this guy make videos, video, after video, after video. And I never brought up a great point. Like Jake Paul is not getting the views that he was and he's trying to cash in on this, right? But when you go and take a look at his channel now, he's only getting around 50 to 18 million views per month. And yes, that's, that's still quite a lot, but it's going from 2.1 million months of roomscape membership to 300,000 months of YouTube membership. So, you know, he's only earning a few million now compared to 20 million. So I think we should all feel sorry for Jake Paul. No, no, we shouldn't. And at the expense of poor Erica, like that's not cool. That is a form of humiliation. And then lastly, making her feel guilty. So I'm going to talk about using kids in a second. But like making her feel guilty, like when he has like the kids like have this whole conversation back and forth, you know what I mean? And publicly talking about this stuff. Like he's pointing out the things that she did, right? To make her feel guilty. This is a sign of emotional abuse. Oh, nevermind. This one says minimizing too. So yeah, minimizing, denying and blaming, making light of the abuse and not taking her concerns about it seriously. Saying abuse didn't happen. Shifting responsibility for abusive behavior. Saying she caused it. All right. So like part of the conversation, and I didn't want to torture myself watching the whole video where you use those kids to like roleplay this thing, like, like shifting the blame and doing these other things. Like, I think he had like the kids say from one of the iNabra clips I saw having the kids say like, Oh, it was when we were broken up. I hooked up with that other chick. Even though Jake Paul is notorious for hooking up with chicks while he is with somebody. You see what I'm saying? Minimizing or shifting blame, right? Oh, we were equally to blame for this. Now. So another sign is using children. So although they didn't have kids together, check this out using the children to relay messages. All right. Like, is this a form of emotional abuse while he's using these kids to vocalize this whole thing, right? To talk about the breakup, to talk about what really happened and all of that. Now, the last thing I want to touch on real quick where it says using economic abuse. This could be things such as preventing her from getting or keeping a job, making her ask for money, giving her an allowance, taking her money, not letting her know about or have access to family income. We saw this during the Shane Dawson documentary of Inside the Mind of Jake Paul when there was conversations about Alyssa Violet, right? Like, this was one of the issues. And then when Alyssa Violet made like a follow up video after she, you know, was on Shane's channel, like, she talked about these things about how she didn't have access to money. And she was like under a contract. All right. So this is a pattern with somebody like Jake Paul. So ladies out there, if you're thinking about dating Jake Paul, please don't. I get it. I get it that everybody needs to process a breakup in their own way. And, and, you know, Jake Paul might argue that him making this video, these videos is him like processing the breakup, bro, you're a millionaire. Go get a freaking therapist and process it that way. And this is a lesson for all of you. We should never, we should never, ever, ever, ever work on our mental health at the expense of hurting others. All right.  No, no, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying is if what we're doing is going to harm them and we can avoid that, then you don't do it. So Jake, if Jake needs, I'm trying to give this fool the benefit of the doubt. If this dude needs to process the breakup, he needs to go see a freaking mental health professional. Okay. Now to end this video, I want to discuss how Jake Paul is an attention seeking man baby on social media. Now, what do I mean by this? So some of you might not be familiar with the term vague book. All right. So I refer to it as vague book. I didn't come up with this. I think me and my friends talk about this.  This is an attention seeking behavior. You're posting something vague. So everybody comes to you and says, are you okay? What's going on? What's happening? Right. And this is what children do to get attention. All right.  All right. Quit doing that. Find people to talk to. Let them know what's going on. Don't keep people guessing. That's not a healthy way to work on your mental health. All right. So Jake Paul does this on Twitter constantly in front of millions of people. All right. Unfortunately, there's not like a catchy name for it. Like there is for vague book. But if you come up with something, let me know down in the comments below. Okay. But here's some examples. And this is a form of emotionally manipulating his audience. All right. Here's a tweet where Jake simply says, uh, now look at these replies. I haven't heard you heard from you all day and it hurts. Si, you're going to be okay. It does get better. I love you, baby. I love you. Stay strong. Here's another one.  And I always regretted that. I should have told, I should have told the full truth, but now I'm in a similar position and I don't know WTF to do. All right. So like, like talk about being vague to get attention. All right. So here's, here's some of the responses. You have said so much and now you've got to say it in my opinion, whatever happens, happens as long as you feel better, you got to worry about yourself first. If this real, if this is really affecting you and you feel like letting it out is going to be the only way to move forward and get better than go for it. And someone else says, let it out. People have taken advantage of you for too long. That's what it says.  Don't let it hurt you again. So yeah, this is emotionally manipulating an audience. Like, um, I just did a video about minute videos whose owned by actually happens and what like Jarvis Johnson was talking about.  This is a form of emotional manipulation. And this last gem of a tweet from Mr. Jake Paul is, do I A be the bigger person and keep my mouth shut about a snake or B let the 100% truth out and feel so much better, even though that might negatively affect me in business. And here are the replies. Would it make you feel better if it did affect your business though? And then the next person says, let it out so others know what to expect from them.   And these people are emotionally invested in giving this guy advice like he's a friend. The other weird thing about this last set of replies is I just noticed they all have Jake Paul as their like their profile picture, which I don't I don't even know man. But anyways, Jake Paul scummy dude. If you have a Jake Paul in your life, get them out. Get them out. If you used to date a dude like Jake Paul, like Eric Costell did, get them out. Get them out. Don't let them manipulate you. Don't let them play mind games. Don't let them do any of that junk. All right. That's why we use these YouTubers to give some context about some messed up stuff that people do to try to screw with your mental health. All right. But anyways, I'm a little jazzed up. I'm going to calm down. Don't forget.  Again, it is linked up in the info card and down in the description below. All right. But anyways, if you like this video, please give it a thumbs up. If you're new, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell because I make a ton of videos and a huge, huge thank you to everybody supporting the channel over on Patreon. You're all amazing. And if you would like to become a patron and get access to my books for free or during our monthly group call or any of that good stuff, click a tap right there. All right. Thanks so much for watching. 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