All right, so we have some really exciting news. As you saw, we have track sightings at the Clear Mount Steel Factory. These photos were not obtained by me. They were sent in by someone. I'll link that just down below. So yeah, so this all started back like way in winter when the drone picked up footage of this coaster track and a lot of people jumped to the conclusion it was dive coaster track. Well, jumping to that conclusion seems like it paid off. It is correct. This is definitely dive coaster track as you can see and the color is gorgeous. It is not Valraven Brown. Now that you've gotten a closer look, you can see what we've known for quite some time. It is Auburn Reddish Brown. The supports also in the background if you look and I'm gonna assume those are our supports and I could be wrong. I just don't see gray going with yellow. So I'm assuming the gray is going with our coaster which would look really cool because if you put it all together if it's going for a mine type theme, Auburn Brown and gray supports would look very like mechanical and blend in super well with this theme that they are going for for the Yukon-Klondike Gold Rush. Absolutely loving it. So if we look at a few things the track pieces you're looking at here are definitely the brake run and station track pieces. So as seen here you have your kind of brake run pieces then you have your drive tires and then the station piece at the end. So with those done being painted sitting out we can assume that they are going to be on their way to Canada's Wonderland shortly. So as predicted within 30 days we were expecting to see brake run station pieces and transfer track and it looks like that could be correct. We may even see them sooner which is a surprise to me. I was expecting them 30 to 40 days from now just based off of the footings and it being 28 days after the footings being poured that they would start vertical construction. So yeah, really cool. Great shots of this. Thank you to whoever got them. But the big question is what are all these other track pieces here for? What is the yellow? What is the gray? The gray may be not finished painted that may not be its final color. It may just be primer. But super exciting. So a couple of things. It's definitely dive coaster track. If the station bolts are eight by eight it is one of the few coasters that uses that many bolts in a station piece. The brake run is extremely similar like to a tee to that of Val Raven. So this is definitely a dive coaster in my opinion. As many of you know we've been saying dive coaster for quite some time the community has been saying dive coaster for quite some time and it is about time to declare this coaster as a dive coaster. Now the question with all the evidence coming forward is is this dive coaster going to be a giga? As you know in my videos I do strongly think that there is a chance it could be a giga. So we're definitely going to stay tuned for more evidence to come forward on that. And here's some other shots of the dive coaster track. It isn't all dive coaster track. There's some smaller track in there but you can tell which is ours and which isn't. So as you see one of the closest pieces there is definitely ours. It's a thicker spine and shorter spine. This isn't ours. This is for something else. It looks like if I had to take a guess a hyper coaster correct me down below if I'm wrong but yeah any of you down below where do you think these other track pieces are going? What other parks are possibly getting B&M's in North America or as we know China is quite the purchaser of B&M coasters. But yeah hopefully you guys enjoyed this video. There's definitely going to be more. This isn't the end of the speculation. Just because we know it's a dive coaster doesn't mean there's more not to know wink. So is this dive coaster a giga? Do you think it's going to beat Valerie Vren's records? I definitely want to hear from you down below. Do you think Canada's Wonderland is going to be the next holder of the records of the dive coaster? Again comment down below your thoughts and opinions. Like this video, subscribe if you haven't. And yeah see you later guys. Thanks so much.


Hey, good afternoon. Hey, how's it going? It's all good. Thursday once again, it always goes, it always passed so fast, like we have the Thursday, Thursday call, and then Friday, you know, Fridays, maybe the lighter day. And so we can then usually are busy Monday Tuesday and Sunday, one week past again, we are back here. Exactly. I feel the same. Let's wait a minute or two. For others. I believe I believe book done is coming. Usually he's here already. Well, let's get a minute. And let's drop out this meeting analytics AI. Good morning. Let's get started. Welcome once again to air this is coming to go it's 2023 18th of May. These are high pleasure and that trust policy notice. All right. So let's get into it. Yeah, so to kick off the meeting. I'm sure there's some people tuning into this. I'm eager to hear about mentorship program update. So as you might know, we have entered we have entered the next stage of the program where the application has been closed and now it's time for us, the mentors to go through the applications and select two applicants one for each of the two projects we we have out there. There has been over 50 full applications for the two projects overall so very high interest. There's a lots of also smart people and hard working apparently hard working and eager, eager people to for good as applied so it will be difficult, difficult to choose only two I mean, lots of people. So, please don't be disappointed if you are not chosen but we'll we'll try to. And we'll be going over our the applications. By the end of the month. And by the end of the month. Now, moving on to the good first issues. We have, well, I'll start with the easier piece that there's a new issue I have created. And then just some refactoring some code moving some functions from one great to another. I think it should be fairly clear but if you'd like to pick this up and you have any questions don't have state to ask here. Other thing kind of up for discussion I chose the data idea that we would kind of try to ask people or like, try to live by this kind of rule that is for people who do like good first issues. One person shouldn't know try to try to book multiple good first issues at once, unless, you know, unless there's something like one person should only have one good first issue in progress and ready, you know, try to ready motivate to finish things till the end, then come trying to book up multiple issues at the same time but then maybe maybe not get them done and perhaps like discourage others to picking picking that issue up. Yeah, good idea. I just, it's nothing. Listeners here. Don't don't take this in any way personally just I saw that was issues. I just saw this sumante ex the road on multiple multiple of the issues, I think that he would like to pick them up. But I know there's, there is an issue from him in progress and needs to be driven to the end so. Sumante ex if you're turning into this. Let's try to finish this one up before picking up the other other pieces. All right, but yeah I'm very happy that there is an interest and people want to work on these things. It's awesome. I love to see even in even more when we when we are merging this PR and now linking to to that topic actually I'll move on to the work which has been done since last week so there's been a successful like a recent I think not first time contributor but maybe second PR from from not she could come away. This has been merged so props props to thank you for contribution. And then, moving to other stuff those small kind of refactoring or rather just renaming where we renamed the dog builder crate to the dog. And, and our original deep dog without underscore to deep dog legacy, and the plan will be now to go ahead and basically get rid of this and instead in favor of the deep dog which is much more robust crate to work with. That's still pending work to be done. And next up we had extended a very far as API to accept like wider range of at the essentially additional format of the input, which is more powerful. There's some rational here explaining what exactly is going on. And lastly, probably the biggest piece which has been merged since last week was implementation of base ledger trade using on on top of vdr proxy client. So essentially, this enables you to use areas vcs but call the ledger through in the vdr proxy. This is pretty cool and also part of this PR was quite nice refactoring kind of the coupling of different components, in particular the submitter trade has been taken out. So, now we have in the vdr implementation but that can be injected with different like transaction submitters and so one submitter, the original one would essentially submit transactions through zero and q directly, whereas the new submitter Mira has implemented here will be submitting transactions through in the vdr proxy, aka HTTPS. So that was pretty nice. That's all that that that's what we have done. And we have lots of stuff in progress right now as well. Linking to the vdr proxy and all the ledger stuff we have in the vdr ledger response parser. And this is amazing again. This has, there has been lots of Mexico originally. I guess it was like, like, is this approach to parse transactions and it and it worked. But nevertheless, it was hard to deal with and hard to verify whether the implementation is actually correct or not. There's this parser now, which is basically all these methods are much shorter now. Instead, we are calling this parser. And if we look at the implementation of this parsing method. I'm going to review this at high level. Where is this? That'll be probably the parser lib dot, lib dot RS. And what the, what this parsing method does is it parses the string response from the ledger to a date, you know, typed type data model of ledger responses. And all these basically ledger ledger respond types are in the domain director right here. And this was not written from scratch instead this was taken out literally like copy pasted out of vdr tools. So this, this seems to be a pretty useful piece of vdr tools to get out. It's, it's duplicated right now. As this code is also used inside of vdr tools itself, but it serves the purpose well here. And so, what do we do in these parsing methods again. We, we get the string response from, you know, vdr, in the vdr submitter transaction submitter, then pass the string to this parser, we map it into basically parse it into the like ledger kind of response data model. And then we remap the ledger response model to, to the, this uncred, well, it's not exactly the credits types, which in the vdr base ledger implementation is returning. So that will be returning these in the data types. Where is it. Let's see some example of the schema one. schema is taken from here in the vdr ledger. Wait, these are requests. And we're returning here. I can open it up just came in on second. ours gets get credential definition response. This is the ledger response. And would we return from here. This goes to, yeah, this is in the indie data types, which is from the indie shared RS repository, aka credits and family. So that's how these works. Yeah, and so it's, it's pretty like nice. It's, it's, it feels much safer now. So does that, that new create the indie ledger response parser. Does that have any dependencies on vdr tools or is it completely separate. Yeah, I believe it does. We can trace it out. Yeah, so it. Right. Okay. Well, this is in the day, literally the tools in the data types. And you are asking about in the data types, right. If it depended on vdr tools at all. Right. Yeah, seems like it does so far. I'm not exactly sure why. Since a whole bunch of code was like copy paste it extracted out of vdr tools. In the data types we can take a quick look because I'm not sure myself. Oh, okay, seems like it's only some sort of error types. Okay, sure why I feel like this would be possible to get rid of it seems like just types, maybe kind of a shortcut. Yeah, part of the copy pasting was just to do that for now. But yeah guys, I reviewed this already and looks like good to me, but go ahead and take a look as well. I don't to merge it with like just on my own so we have at least two approvals would be nice. All right. Let's, let's go further. Right this is in progress but it's, it's waiting for review essentially response parser this one. The next step we have typing for the poor structures. It's yours George. I know you described it very nicely. This issue is it read so I don't think I don't think we have to like go through it or explain it too much but You want to leave some words here. Yeah, I think I think all I have left is to fix up some tests. Yeah, like the types for both APIs are all there and just been reworking the tests to use types instead. I also found some older tests that were forcing itself to use indie and not try to use modular libs. So now I'm trying to rework some of them so tests on both. But yeah, hopefully I can finish this soon. Yeah, it's good to get away from a lot of the Jason manipulation that was going on previously. Yeah, so actually I dropped off for a second or two, actually for a couple of seconds. I didn't hear everything but I'm sure it's recorded, but Yeah, I guess what you're saying is that you basically you go rid of those streams are the bits the main idea. Yeah, yeah exactly and so internally we don't have to manipulate Jason's as much. Yeah, that's that's really awesome. I mean this kind of changes. The technical depth we use spookiness for a long time. I'm really happy to see this coming up. Also around the trades. That's actually the next item here. So also the typing around the trades we have the tech bash. And on the typing here and around the baseball at trade interface, I see it's just missing some tests. So hopefully you can drive this. I see that is kind of actively working on this. So that's, that's great. And I've been helping him a bit with this it seems pretty close. Just some of the data mappings are not working. But I think it should be an easy fix at the moment, not to speak on his behalf but it seems like it's mostly been working on fixing the tags. And part of the original issue, but there's still the wallet records truck that needs to be implemented so maybe that could be another PR. I'll let him know after this call there and see what he wants to do. Awesome awesome very nice. Okay, and lastly, we have this item for critics baby sure and that's been researched. And I guess this one worked on as well. There is not any PR yet, but I know it's in progress. How it's going. The slow but steady pretty much. The PR will come soon. The thing is that I didn't really have anything to let's say anything worth looking at. So I didn't push anything yet. But I'm actually just one method away from the trade to kind of having it all implemented. At least as an initial draft, I guess so then it can be reviewed and we can start implementing tests and whatnot to see that it's actually working. Yeah, so it's things are moving. Definitely the typing would have helped with all of this, but yeah, we'll get there. As in the non creds RS typing. No, no, no, it's like just critics I'm referring to the having strong types to the traits and everything because I know I'm for me not being that familiar with how everything works. Although this is an opportunity to kind of go in depth and learn more and so that's that's good. But not being extremely familiar with how everything works kind of makes it difficult to track because you're just getting a string here a string there you have to convert it something pass it somewhere it gets converted internally again it's like a whole mess and you kind of lose track of what you're expecting where and how it's supposed to look like and all that stuff. But yeah, we're going to fix that one day. So, looking forward to that. Have you um, have you had to store stuff in the wallet. Yes. Okay. And we're also going to need that's basically the remaining thing we're going to need a reference or basically just a wallet handle to another wallet sorry ledger for when revocations are getting published by the issuer. There's no way around that. Yeah, so I'm going to have to extend that type just a bit. I don't expect it to be that big of a deal. Like I said, like the implementation itself. I'm just not sure you said that caught my attention that part with the ledger and the publishing because the mirror was just not sure if you I think he broke down some trade method into like two smaller methods and it was something about the relocation and the ledger. And I'm just not sure if you if you have the latest version and maybe they'll solve your problem, you know, if things got merged they probably don't but Yeah, let me have a look at this. Oh, they find it as a six core and then unknown credits credits unknown credits. And to be the last one publish something publish revocations. Right. Yeah, yeah, it was then I don't mean just to make public local revel revocations. Yeah, yeah, that's what he kind of split into two methods essentially so you don't you won't not need ledger because he took the interface such that it's not here anymore it somewhere else. Okay. Show history for selection. Yeah, it will it used to be like this publish local locations and internally, basically was calling these two methods. And these two methods they deal with the wallet, because that's where we store the intermediate delta after the revocation has been applied. Yeah, but it's not about a wallet. So okay the wallet, the wallet is already there anyway so that's that. I believe like the type change. Can you have a look. Sorry, not here. Not here. Yeah, the actual type that the trade is implemented for. I don't know what's it's called. It's still base. This is the base trade. Okay, can you have a look at the credits implementation. Right. That's fine. But can you can you scroll up a bit more more like where the type is defined. It's the same time. Okay, so the wallet is still there. Yeah, because I think like there are a lot of places where you need wallet here so if you only change that. Okay, but so how does it work now so So it was it was actually this PR. I think that was kind of merged at the at the verge of when you were starting and when he was like it was merged around the time we were starting on this and I think he missed it. I think we went through this last week or like mentioned it and it was this split publishable for locations. Okay. Yeah, I didn't see this. Yeah, well he did like necessary modifications code to avoid, you know, having an uncred straight to be aware of last week. Okay, cool. All right, then I'll I'll rebase and that means it's going to be easier to implement that last part. And then we should be able to have a look at this too and I can start start looking at tests. So okay that's even better. Let's work. So you won't need the ledger in the non creds implementation. I assume, I mean, that's what that's what it looks like that was the purpose of the PR Patrick just showed. So in the beginning, you're also modified the in the implementation like the live video tools implementation. That's basically the whole idea not to depend on the full handle so I assume the ledger transaction sending was moved somewhere up in the stack. Technically down in the stack anyway. Yeah, cool. Yeah. All right, and almost there in terms of the credits issuer. We'll see how the, how the testing goes and the compatibility issues we might run into and migration. That can be stopped. Yeah, so I mean the implementation like this first draft was one side of things then there's going to be testing, but then I guess the most kind of important part will be to kind of have that migration in place. Like we discussed with George I believe last week to have some sort of routine that runs when and on the agent starts or something so that it's going to migrate these credentials and all the wallet objects to the credit implementation from live VR tools. And then we're able to kind of drop with your tools, at least most part of it. That would be a separate PR right. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, maybe, probably, I guess I guess it's, it would be a separate PR so the PR for this will basically just revolve around the credits issuer implementation and maybe having the tests pass. And once that's done, we can have the migration implemented, and it can be like completely separate that doesn't even have to be here it has to be just can be some sort of binary that gets called or something, I don't know, or even just some library in one method. Yeah, so I guess that would make things easy, at least from an implementation perspective, and then we would be able to kind of drop the legacy live VR tools, apart from the wallet. That's right. We're going to get rid of lots of code. I'm very much excited for that. That's how I was saying before I'll be definitely opening champagne when we delete like 30,000 lines of code. I think that there might still be some remaining parts of the individual ledger implementation that would need to be implemented to fully use modular lips as an issuer. Yeah, yeah, I know that Miro, he's aware of it. And I think he was saying that he's kind of waiting for the credits based issuer to be implemented for him to kind of reasonably be able to test the individual issuer. I don't really remember, like, the vertical reason why is it so, but that's, that's what I remember. But wait, so what's the problem regarding the ledger? You can explain if you're on Patrick. No, go ahead. Oh yeah. So when you're using a modular profile, as in you're using the individual ledger plus credits and uncreds. There's still some issuer related ledger transactions that haven't been implemented for the individual implementation. I think specifically around some revocation publishing type transactions. Okay. And so, yeah, I'm sort of, I'm sort of worrying now that in order for you to fully test the, the credits and uncreds issue a functionality. You know, this ledger publishing implementation might need to be fleshed out as well. Or it can be left to later and it would. Technically could use like, I believe you, you know, in order to test credits, I guess, technically you could use combination of like credits issue like, like, and uncreds plus VDR tool ledger. All right, that should work. Yeah, I guess I mean, it's, it's the same ledger, same ecosystem, still in the so it should be fine. But so I see that the ledger, there's the base ledger trade and it has two implementations right now in the ledger and in the VDR ledger. So, I assume the VDR, the individual ledger is the VDR tools implementation. That's what really. So in the ledger is the like VDR tools. I can see how this is confusing. Yeah, it is the key ledger to make it more confusing. I have to make the VDR ledger that's the, that's the, that's the individual. You dropped out for a second Patrick. In the VDR is in the VDR for a second Patrick. I couldn't hear what you were saying but I got it. Yeah, it just, it just kind of easy to get the names like confused in the VR tools. I just want to say that it makes me feel better about myself when I see that other people are as bad as naming as I am.  Okay. Well, all right. So, then the in the ledger is the, okay in the SDK and VDR ledger. That makes sense because I see stuff is not implemented here. Okay. But I still don't think there are there would be issues necessarily in terms of like using the, let's say legacy ledger. I don't think so. I think that's really fine. It would make testing pretty complicated because at the moment it's set up to use, at the moment it's set up to use the modular Libs profile, which is how the VDR ledger and the Credex implementations get their coverage, get that testing done. So if you switch that to the VDR tools ledger, then you're missing a lot of coverage and testing for the VDR, Indie VDR ledger. Geez, this is hard to keep up with these names. Okay. Yeah, but that should be fine. I mean, like, just for purpose of testing, like Credex implementation, we could like switch, tweak that profile to essentially use VDR tools ledger, but then obviously we don't want to affect like coverage and CI so we could keep that. And I don't know we can like, like, add a new job which like using a profile with different combination, just, I mean, we won't decrease the coverage, but we can find a way to test Credex, if in the meantime, the issue portion of Indie VDR ledger is not yet implemented. Yeah, fair enough. Okay. I'll work around it and maybe implement another profile and combine the two things. It's cool. Yeah. But I'm just just on that. If we go that route, maybe just add a comment that we should get rid of it as soon as possible. It'll be a nightmare to maintain like three different testing profiles. Yeah, yeah, for sure. But but mirror is he's aware of it and it's he's now like, like, deep, like rapid hold down in all the ledger stuff so he'll finish this piece as well. Okay, great. And then we can just unify it and use Indie VDR gets rid of VDR tools ledger completely and that would itself I guess it was to lead lots of code. All right. This kind of bring us almost to the end. This is just kind of left over from the last week but nevertheless, I guess the priorities are pretty clear just kind of sort out these like interfaces. These ledger trades and crates trades and basically everything we discussed. And the type state pattern I guess it was kind of shifted right now on like a second rail like in favor of these these breakdown. If I will have time I would, well, what I personally wanted to as for myself as in a role of implementer, I would like to get planning to get to be working on the deep dog crates. We tried integration so we could get rid of the deep dog legacy, but then after that I would like to move on to the type state pattern and perhaps continue in the holder. And if time allows then try to implement a counter party and finally do some testing but yeah, we'll see we'll see. I just wanted to kind of add, maybe the reason of why this moved to a secondary position in terms of priorities, because the ledger and the wallet stuff and the anum cred stuff they're like lower level more close to the foundation of the entire library so it's better to kind of start from the bottom up rather than start from the top and modify the. I mean it's not necessarily that it's bad but it's just it would just make everything much simpler to kind of accommodate the lower levels and the core of the library in the protocols and the state machines once that's done rather than do it the other way around and work a lot on the protocols and state machines and then realize yeah but we need to do a lot of work on the on the various VCX core stuff. Not necessarily that they're maybe conflicting as much but in terms of functionality, a state machine is used in one protocol but this stuff, this is being used across the entire library right so it kind of makes sense that it's more important to kind of finish that first and then move to the other parts. Maybe there's also the aspect of maybe George knows what I'm talking about the matter of kind of the. I don't know maybe let's call them problems or breaking changes that would come with the implementations of five state patterns for the state machines. I know like there's a lot to to discuss in terms of how to implement them. And maybe what changes we should make what changes we should not make. Because, like not only is the, I guess it also depends on how we're going to go about it whether just do type state first and then maybe work towards the. The modify states to kind of have them about message generation and not message sending, but that means the states change and the serialization format changes and as a result things might be, you know, different. So we also kind of have to consider that just just brainstorming ignore me if I'm babbling around. I know you're totally right. Yeah, it's a very difficult problem. Yeah, and the thing is that at least because I wanted to kind of work on implementing that these kind of states for the connection kind of have that finished as a state machine that's in the condition we want all of them to get to kind of have that as some sort of a model but the idea is that I basically just looked and thought about it a lot and I mean this thing came around with the core traits so that's more important right now. But a lot of questions kind of popped into my head about how to go about this. And pretty much just the consequences that this will have and how to go about that and the thing that's important is with the states changing and maybe holding some sort of message because that was the point right you. The state is not no longer going to be about the message was sent the state is about messages generated, you can pick it up from here, send it however many times you want and handle the errors that can come from that. But I'm fairly confident that with this with how the states are right now and how the states would look like with that done. I'm not sure there's going to there's always going to be a conversion that can happen between an old state and a new state because the message might contain additional stuff that's simply not available in the state machine. As they are right now. So, we can have to to see how to go about that. Yeah, I know what you mean. You might, we might do changes which might not be like, though the every old state might be possible to map out to like a new state. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's what I mean. So there's a lot to discuss there in terms of how to go about it. But yeah, just this is just a heads up. You will, you'll see, you'll see what I mean. But again, we can maybe focus on just getting the type state pattern because that would also make everything a bit, not a bit but a lot nicer to look and work with to look at and work with. Because the states would be more well defined and the transitions would be better defined. And that doesn't necessarily change the states themselves at least not that much and not in an incompatible manner, I believe, like we can we can definitely arrange something. So maybe we can focus on that first, and then kind of think about how to go about the, the states changes themselves. Yeah, I mean, I think we should just like, re-implement those state machines like just kind of forget how we do us and just do like best version of the state machines we can. And then retroactively see like, okay, can we like, first of all, like, do we want that do we need. Is there people who need like to do these conversions. And then what's, what's the, how can we reasonably, if yes, then how can we somehow reasonably convert the old state machines to the new ones, if we decide to do it. Sorry, just, I'll try to first thing I guess the tricky states are really the intermediate states. So, the, like the beginning, the beginner states were the beginning states, incipient states, and the complete states or final states. Initial and final states should be fairly easy to map because there's not a lot going on, right. So, ultimately, if the protocol has just started or is complete, you kind of end up with the same stuff and especially because there aren't really messages to send. We're in the initial state if there are messages to send then they're constructed from pretty much nothing, right. So, that should be doable. And I guess that's an important thing because if you're in the middle of a protocol and you lose that state machine, I know it cannot be converted because the state's changed. I guess you can restart the protocol and whatnot. Probably the more the more important part is having the complete protocols still there. Maybe, I don't know. Yeah, I definitely agree. Usually, like typically these protocols, they conclude quickly like they either never finish and it's not like you keep the state machines in like intermediate state for days, I think. I guess there could be cases maybe with issuance of credentials, but I think it's kind of an edge case.  Yeah, I think it's going to be extremely hard if not impossible to have some of the old serialized formats be able to deserialize into the new transitions, which is partly why I was pushing for the from parts and into parts concepts a while ago, because that lets consumers such as myself now be able to get the raw parts of what's being stored in that state machine, such as the underlying messages that are being used and things like that. And so then, if there's this huge migration to this new type state pattern, then you don't have to worry about serialization formats because you have the raw data in your own format. Yeah, I don't go ahead. Yeah, I was going to say, I think in general, that's maybe the approach that we should encourage people to take rather than relying on a serialized format and storing that in their database or wherever for a long period of time and expecting it to always be compatible. It's for them. Right. So, the thing is that I'm sure that doesn't help at all with the problem that we're going to have, because the front parts thing kind of takes the state itself. Even if you break that down, like the problem comes from the fact that in the current in the states as they are right now, there is some information. But that information, I'm sure that in some cases is not enough, it's simply not enough to construct the message, like the full message that you would be sending, which will be actually stored in the new states. So, regardless of how you split that consumers will simply not have the data that they need to reconstruct that message. In some cases. And therefore I don't I don't think that's necessarily a problem. Yeah, I don't know what you mean, maybe just to clarify it more is like, for example, let's find some state machines which is doing. Some particular example where this will be impossible. What you describe the issuance holder state machine there must be some sense state. Request send yeah that could be a good candidate I think request send state. Request send request. Okay, so, so when you are like, for example, right now when you are in the state offer potential offer received. When you decide to like proceed where you would call function send request. And what that does is, it will like generate credential request out of that offer, would you store, and it will just like send that credential request, and that will bring you to state credential request send state right. But, and here you no longer stored the message, you know the credential request message you have generated by another example. But with the new, the new design right I think even if I look at the PR from from George, there's already if you look at the, at the states. There is going to be state request prepared, which contains credential request message. So if you previously stored like state machine in the request and state. It's impossible to, and this is kind of equivalent of it because here you prepare it and then as a as a owner of the state machine, you need to take care of sending right. Then, then it will be impossible to basically map this state on to this state because this piece of information is is missing here. Right. So just thinking on the spot about that. I don't think it would matter if you'd already sent that request message in this old state machine pattern. And then you convert it into the new type state pattern. You can probably could just put a dummy message in there because you don't care about that message you've already sent it. That's true. Yeah, theoretically I think that would be true. Yeah, but I don't know. I don't know about that like it sounds like it could work. Sorry, but it also sounds like it can cause more trouble and confusion rather than anything else. Maybe another example of this is in the connection. If you look at the Inviter States. Connection Inviter States. And if you look at the responded state. So this means that the response the signed response was sent. In the future with the approach we want to take the response will the sign response will actually be stored in here and consumers would take it from here and send it right. Right now we actually have the response but it's in the requested state so the request comes in and this messages process then the response is generated. It's basically sent from there, but like with the transition itself from requested to responded is about sending that signed response if you look in the requested state is just a follow up. That's going to make a bit more sense. But if you were to map these states to the new format. You cannot map this the requested state to the responded state. Although. Yeah actually technically you could that. I assume that's what it really means you have the sign response and then you have to send it but. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe let's just implement those new state machines like, you know, a proper way and then I guess we'll see. Maybe there'll be strategies to like make compromise, like, for example, with a feeling the dummy message and maybe that could like be potential solution how to migrate like all state machines kind of convert them to the new one even with the intermediate states. I guess, but we'll see when we start working on it. Yeah, I think George might be on to something in terms of that we might be able to map. Maybe not like not the one or not exactly the same state like, like it's here the requested state, the old requested state and connection to the new requested state and connection but rather the requested state here. It might not be the case everywhere but the requested state here would technically be mapped to the responded state in the future. Because that's when the response is generated. Yeah, my state was a bit of an edge case right where we're generating the message. Yeah, I wanted to change it but yeah I wanted to change it when I worked on this but it would be breaking it was breaking a lot of stuff so I kind of just left it like that. Make it the problem for another day but yeah. Okay, we'll see. But yeah this was mainly just a heads up. Sorry. Sorry, did that discussion start with us saying that core work should be the first priority there. Or was that not the takeaway. What should be priority. I thought that conversation just then started with that we should approach things bottom up and look at the core implementation before type states. Yeah, I mean it's kind of what we ended up doing, not necessarily that it would be a problem. There's a lot of work in both places so and it's not that they're conflicting that much but it's more about the impact I guess that the changes have so the the core traits and areas VCS core overall kind of has is being used you know across the entirety of areas VCS of the library. Whereas a state machine or a single protocol is basically more self contained. So that that's really just all there is to it's mostly about the impact. All of it is important work nevertheless. Yeah, sure. All right, I just wanted to note like one one thing actually, I guess, maybe not yet in progress but definitely upcoming. As the mirror is neck deep in in ledger stuff. He also wants to implement caching for in the VDR, because in the VDR itself doesn't cash anything. So now he's basically did this like some like transaction submitter component, then, then the one in waiting for review is like response parser. And then one more component to be added is the like caching component and technically you could swap out the caching components as you want, like you have a custom implant on implementation for it but will be definitely providing and so yeah I'll be caching. I'm sure you appreciate it upgrade especially like mobile environment I feel like it could be useful. Yeah, especially around revocation proofs. I find that sometimes it can take like 10 seconds to create a proof just because of all the ledger transactions that need to happen. Oh, yeah, that's so hot. And yeah, I think caching shouldn't be too bad, because the video in DVD our ledger implementation already has access to a wallet. So theoretically, the case could just be wallet records. Yeah. But my only suggestion around that if you if you take in suggestions is maybe the caching should be optional and there's some flag to. Yeah, I mean, it's, it's very like caching is, as they say like the hardest problems in a CSS caching and naming variables right like caching is very opinionated like when do you invalidate cash and how do you do it and stuff like that so it'll be definitely like optional and swappable. So, you could use your own or not use it at all, if you'd like to. So you were suggesting that the wallet could be used for caching right. Yeah, yeah, it could be for sure. I was thinking about doing that myself as a as a consumer. But yeah, the video ledger already has access to the wallets and may as well. So if I may rise as implants like about implementation in particular but I'll definitely let him know and I think he's just about to start this kind of this piece. Yeah, there should be other implementations to look at as well. I think acupy acupyze usage of indie video might put some caching on top. And also of course video tools I believe does caching. Individually R is doing caching. Oh sorry that video tools, I believe. Maybe I'm maybe use the right maybe I just misheard I'm not sure but yeah video tools here correct. I guess I guess that kind of that's kind of concluding our call it's it's so it just one minute after we started one minute after so it's perfect 60 minutes. And anything else from your side guys. Did you go to the open wallet meeting. Oh yeah, unfortunately, I missed it. So I want to take a look at the recording and try to form my opinion and some thoughts about it. Yeah, cool. Do you know if it was recorded. I believe so yeah because it's it was just basically just like regular every work group call and all these hydrologicals are recorded so it should be up there. Hey guys. Friday. We can come in soon again. So have a wonderful rest of your day and enjoy the rest of the week. Thank you. Thanks. See you.


We don't boss talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Yeah, we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. We be on fire, we be lit, lit. It's a unique hustle. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Jamaica. Walk on you to Medell. Man, hey man, we got a special guest here today, y'all. If you guys are in the art, man, you're in for a treat, man. This guy right here, man, dedicated his life to doing different pics, portraits, man. This guy's been paying for many, many years. C-Ray? Yes, sir. C-Ray is one of the guys that I admire. I've been looking at a lot of his paintings, man. A lot of things that he do, it flows around, not only the city, but just, if you see it on the internet, from Iced Tea, I've seen you do, cause I just left Iced Tea interview. I've seen that. Did you do that before the Iced Tea interview or after? It was before. How long before? I saw him do an interview with Big Boy, and he was talking about the TV show and him being the longest running male actor in history. I don't know how long ago in that video, it's probably like at least a month old or something. It's a fresh video, Iced Tea, but I saw that and I said, oh man, I gotta paint that. That's history. Iced Tea, I mean, I love, you know, law and order. I see it in law and order. Because of him being on there, and then you got LL who did this thing later, but I said, man, I gotta go ahead and immortalize that. I'm sure you hadn't seen nothing, just gonna glorify his acting role. Did you send it to him or did you? No, no, I just did it. I just painted it. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that I do. I let God handle it. Like this, I was gonna do it either way. Would you like to get it to him? That'll be a goal. Okay, well, you know how y'all do it, tell me. That'll be a goal, you know. Say it, we'll do it. He's seen it. He has seen it. I don't know. I just posted it. Oh, you posted it? I just did it and posted it. No, because I was wondering if he, like, commented on the needs or anything like that. I haven't heard of it. Have you tagged him in it? I tagged him in it. Yeah, I tagged Coco. I put him on it. So, yeah. I definitely put him on it. You know what I'm saying? Well, I put it in his living room. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because he has a lot of art of them in there. Yeah, that's what we did. But nothing like that one. That's what I was saying. Yeah, I hadn't seen that one. I like doing stuff that's outside the box that, you know, people who're celebrities, they get all type of stuff. Correct. And if I'm gonna do something, it's gonna be something that maybe is you and your daughter. Maybe, I like to come at it at a different angle, you know, so. Who was another one that you tied up? Well, let's go back. Yeah, I was about to say you couldn't even do it. We about jump all the way into it. Yeah. Let's go back. Are you born and raised here in Dallas? Born and raised in Dallas, grew up in Lancaster, though. Okay. When I went to school throughout Lancaster, we both, you know, ended up, and I always did art all throughout Lancaster through my junior high years. And I was painting the barbershop windows at the dollar movie, you know, barber, you know, I always found a way to do art, whether I was doing my friends murals when I was in high school, other than, you know.  And I always stop and talk to some of these people and when I find out how much they get, I'm like, someone banking some good money. Oh yeah. I mean, mural work is really out there. I started out right when I got out of school, I actually got a full scholarship to go to Art Institute of Dallas from high school. So I went straight to Art Institute cause I like graphic design. And I actually do graphic design as another, you know, as a day job as I do my art. But my whole thing was, I liked to do the mission both really is what I like. You know, I like hip hop music and that type of thing. But I started out doing artwork for family and friends and I even got on the vendors list for DISD. I did murals at women hutch and sock over there with Coach Mays, a few different other schools. So how much did you get for your first paying job? And how old were you when you got paid that? Well, my first paid job actually, well, okay, let me start with this. When I was in high school, I was doing murals in some of my classmates' rooms and they're like, okay. But oh, so they paid you? Oh yeah, they paid. Like they had their parents, like I'm paying born guards and all type of stuff. I think my first payment might have been $800 to do a while. And that was like my probably sophomore year in high school. But my first commission job or job where I made some real money was probably gonna be when I was with DISD. And I started getting the contracts, you know what I'm saying, where I'm doing hallway paintings and that type of stuff. But I always had a love for doing portraits. That's really my thing, doing people, you know? I'm painting, you know, maybe grandma died, you know?  I had to do it at artist too. At artist, that was the first time when we had the live models, the nude models and you had to paint them. And it's good for like, where you can learn perspective and learn how to draw form of life form. And that too, yeah, professionalism. How did you feel the first time when you had to paint somebody naked? The first time? The first time? Was it a male or female? It was a female. The first one was a female, then we had a male. But the first time we had a female, these are not like.  In all of us, we were like 1920 and we're all laughing. Like we're not laughing in front of the model. But we're like, man, we got to draw. And then they give us a, hey, this is serious business. And you know what I'm saying? So we have, these ain't no runway models. These are regular people that we were painting. So it ain't nothing like, oh man, it's like, and it was all about getting the detail. Every wrinkle, everything, you know what I'm saying? And that kind of fine tunes you on your detail. But that was more of the technical side because I'm just used to, I'm more of a street artist because I'm just used to doing two pox and doing the stuff that I like, you know what I'm saying? But it shows you. And you had gotten a scholarship there, right? Yeah, got the full scholarship. So was that the only school that had reached out to you for a scholarship? Or that's the school that you chose? Well, that's the school that I chose. I had like a UNT. I had a couple of options that weren't full rides though. Okay, but this was a full ride. And I always wanted to do, the programs they were offering as far as graphic design was real, couldn't edge back in 97 when I graduated. So I was like, I mean, it's a two year program. You get an associate's degree, but you get to learn all this other stuff that I already knew where I want to go. I want to do album covers and go straight to ad agencies and stuff. I work for Auto Trader Magazine, laying out all the car ads and all that type of stuff. So I got right where I need to get. So that's the reason why you chose them? Yeah, so. I want to, because the other day when you were here, I was telling you about my daughter and at that time she hadn't gotten her scholarship. Well, they contacted us and we did a big thing on our set and they awarded her scholarship to Texas, University of Texas in Austin. There you go. So that was just a big deal. And she was happy about that. Shout out, she over there, sitting down right there now. Okay. But yeah, so after college, how did you, what did you do? And like the first big celebrity that you actually got recognition from when you did their art? Okay, so right out of, when I got out of Art Institute, I got a job at an advertising agency in Arlington to actually, I worked for three months and then they ended up folding. So I was back on just trying to put my resume out there and get stuff. And actually, Big T Bazaar is a DJ named DJ Cap. You know, he's like my big- Cap of the bomb, bomb banger. Cap of the bomb. He was looking for somebody to do some artwork for his logos, the covers that he was doing, all this stuff. And I already had kind of a buzz around the city because people know what I was doing.  I worked for Cap for like three, four years straight. All the way till he ended up moving out of there, you know what I'm saying? But me doing those album covers, I was doing stuff like Stampede records. Like we were doing a lot of stuff whatever acts he was doing, he was tying me into a lot of stuff. But I did that for a while, but how the celebrity stuff finally popped out for me. I know a lot of club promoters in Dallas too. And one of my friends, he was like, man, C-Ray paints his paintings like within eight hours to 12 within a day. I'm real quick on my turnaround. So like my first opportunity, I was working with the men. So what kind of painting is this? Is that water paint or paint? I use acrylic. I use all acrylic because it dries fast, you know what I'm saying? And you don't have to wait on, you know, you can do it on the fly, you know what I'm saying? It depends on the size of the painting of course. Okay. And he was like, man, hey, well, we got some, we got different celebrities coming into the city. What we can do if you want to do a partnership, we'll let you present to these celebs.  We make sure they give you your spotlight on their social media. So it's like you getting the trade off of the payment right then, because you're getting in front of millions of followers. So my first one they had me do was actually Rashida. Rashida was in town. And that was the first one I did in Dallas. And through men of business, we did a whole bunch of stuff from Rashida to man, pretty much everybody, TI, Tray, Slim Thug.  Yeah, like with the bottle girls coming out with the bottles, it was a presentation. They had a celebrity cake trist who would give them a cake and see Ray bring the artwork. We bring the artwork out. So it was a whole presentation as a group. Okay, that's dope. And then slowly after that, like... Can we find any of those videos anywhere? Everything is on my IG. So you can see all of that. Everything is timeline all the way back to 2014 when I started it. And I just started doing all type of artwork. My first big one that I did was just off the fly off of social media. I did a painting of Martin Lawrence. The episode with the CD player where he's walking around like, need no brown. That's my favorite, the Who Stole the CD player. I said, I gotta paint that. I painted it and I sat on the painting for a year. We tagged him, never heard anything. I reposted it a year later. I get a hit from Martin Lawrence himself. Through IG, through DM. He was like, amen, I love that painting. How much you want for it? I said, man, you a legend. Just pay for the shipping, Martin. He sent me the information. He said, send it to my people. And we did it. And he was like, man, at that time, he was like, man, you're the only piece of artwork. Your artwork is the only piece I got in my house. And this is Martin Lawrence. And did you shot you out or anything? I'm still in the space right now. All down is it. He's like, man, he did a couple of pains. I mean, a couple of posts with me. At first, because I had a Martin shirt. I did one where he had got lumped up by, you know, when Tommy Hearn's at the moment. I had ordered a shirt and I had that on. And I took a picture by the pain. He posted that first. He said, man, look at this dope artwork. Just before he got it. He posted that first and I ended up shipping it to him. He took a picture of it in his office while he working on his desk and said, hey y'all, because of C-Ray Art, I'm gonna start doing Fan Art Fridays. We're gonna start shining light on all these little artists. And start, you know, doing it like that. But he didn't have to do none of that. That was all God. I just sent it. And I was like, you know, and a lot of this stuff is that. So Martin show, that's a show that me and my daughter, we real big on Martin, you know, we love Martin. I just, so when you think about like that whole 90s run, he had that epic, right? Yes, sir. So would you say, you used to watch that a lot. Oh yeah. Every episode. Well, it was your favorite episode. That episode. That one. See that's the one. That's why I painted it. That's why he painted it. And the fact out, and let me tell you something, I just did another one. Cause my second favorite episode was the one where he did Jodacy. When he came out on the Varnil show. And Varnil, he was a fool on that. Cause he was like, yeah, you know, that's just show business when you tell him, you know. That was my sick. I said, I got to paint it. So I got KC looking pissed off and Martin is singing in the space. And I got Varnil standing there like, man, you ruining my show. So did you send that one to him? I got something in the works, but Martin don't want that. But I got something. It's a surprise. It's good. You love to surprise people, don't you? That's it. I don't like really talking about stuff until it's done. Cause a lot of people will shoot themselves. A lot of my success is because I'm a one man show. I don't talk about a lot of stuff. And it ain't always, it's business to me. When I'm going, when they say, C-Ray, we got a celebrity. I ain't trying to kick it with you or none of that. Let me, here's the pain.  I did when I made Cardi B, before she blew up. I'm like, man, I'm eating all these people. Then I started doing Earl Spence, Zeke. Let's start getting all these people. Then I'm in the market doing Earl, you know, Dallas to Soda. Earl Spence to Dallas. So what did he say when he, when he seen the pain? Man, Earl done got five more pains from me because you love the first pain. The first one. Yeah.  It was one of his earlier fights, but they were having a party for him. And they said, man, do something, C-Ray. And I did it. It was when he had the truth. He had like the American, almost like some Cree type boxes on. And he was like, oh man, you did that, C-Ray. And he's been loyal. He was like, I did his daughters.  Did that one. And then we done kind of built a relationship.  Did you ever see him being the box he is today? Did you see him early on? Oh yeah. Oh yeah.  Even, you know, the Olympic, just following his pedigree of what he's been doing, you know, I already knew who he was going to be. And he had name and it's, people knew it. If you just follow boxing, you knew it.  You know what I'm saying? What's your most favorite fight you've ever seen him in? Man. I think I might, I might have to go with when he went overseas. That's the one. Keel Brooks. That's the one. Keel Brooks. The Keel Brooks one is more. It was more than Dallas. It was America. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he did Keel, I painted that one and I got him leaning down and I was like, yeah, yeah. So that would probably be the one. That would probably be the one. Earl is different, man. Earl is a guy that, you know, he shows the city justice, man. And, and, and Dary, his, his, his mammoth. Yeah, Dary James. Dary James. I did one for Dary. Dary, Dary Cole, like what they've done for Dallas, man, and to be people that look like us, is something on a whole nother level.  Yeah. I mean, Earl started with the Shag, you know what I'm saying? You know, but it's love. And just to know that I know him, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, this is a, this is a goat. Isn't he going down in history?  And you know you're doing it. Yeah.  Yeah, but, but is that getting old? Like, that's getting old because they're getting older. I don't know.  At the end of the day, they say that, they say, but we're in from him this last time. Said that it was a weight factor. He took another fight before he could get to him and all that, you know, is he running from? Do you think he's running from Earl? I think so. You think you're running from? I think so. Cause Earl done put it out there. He got the shirt. He, what he looking for, but, you know, he been putting it out there. And this always seems like it's always something else. I don't think he's Earl running. Yeah. I have black, black from fight fan on him and black, you know, black say he kind of, you know, I think that a lot of stuff just happened in boxing.   But boxing became a thing in Dallas. And I think, I think Earl Spence was a big reason that, that, that fight fan even happened, to be honest with you, with black, you know, cause we represent hard for the people that rock with us, you know? It's a glorious time to be in Dallas right now. On all aspects, we just got a lot of stuff. You got Lee Merritt, who's, you know, who's doing stuff with being crump on the legal front. I always fight Tatiana Jefferson, both of them, John. I've been able to work with some people and do some stuff through my art that I always, my goal was like artists, my ministry. And I rather, I rather have a million people on my stuff to make a million dollars. If I make the million dollars, it'll come. I'm not gonna chase the money, but I rather my paintings be that impactful and I'll touch people with what I'm doing. And I've been blessed to have some opportunities through God, just opening doors to where you, I just gotta do it, you know, type of thing. But it's just like to kind of go back to Martin. Martin could have, anybody, he'd get artwork all the time, but for him to pick me out at a, you know, and just kind of, you know, show love like that was, there's more than just us. One rapper that sticks out to you when you did a paint for him that it was like a big deal for you. Let me see. I'm gonna say mode three, mode for one. I'm gonna go with three for one because after he got locked up and came out of jail, Rainwater was already was like, you know, cause I had this stuff for yellow before him, before three, but three, he was really like, when he got the artwork, he was always pictures, he was showing the artwork off. You know, he wasn't just like, oh, I got it or whatever, but he really appreciate it. And I would say that.  Like to see him, not that he's passed on, but to have that in your memory bank of him exploring your art, showing your art love, you still can get the visuals and show them the fact that he rock with you. How big is that? How? It's really major cause it's one thing to never, I met him when you sit up there and talk to a guy and you know, it's a real connection.  And the talent, the singing, he was different. You know what I'm saying? It was just, you know, he was about to blow. He was messing with Boosie. He had a lot of stuff that was finna come down the pipe. And then it's just like, man, why? And it's just like Dove. Dove was trying to get something working for me before he got killed. Wow. I got conversations with Dove right before he died. And he was like, man, where you at? The Dove Museum has two of my pieces on the Papa Museum company, you know, How did you make that happen though? After Dove had passed? Well, I'm in the Trap Museum right now because the Trap Museum, I did a piece of Young G.C. And Trap Museum just reached out to me. They saw it and they liked it. And it was like, Well, who owns the Trap Museum? Well, T.I. is over the shores. Oh, of course. Okay, so he read time to you? Well, T.I. had the curators. So the curators up for the store, like, you know, I do a couple of different people that had the chain of command when I first got over there. But our selector is a shout out to her. She actually, she looks out for me. She was like, she got me on doll stuff, but they already have my GZ in the GZ exhibit. My paint is right there about a snowman. How did GZ end up with it? Did they just ask you for it or did? Yeah, I had to ship it. It's a contract. No, it's real. It's on display. Like I sign a contract every year.  So it's a, they do everything legit, you know? And they put stuff up for sale if somebody wants to buy. Wow. I just renew my truck contract every year. And it was, I was selected, they reached out to me. And you don't have to pay to have it in there? No. No, it's a blessing. That's good. Yeah, I don't pay anything. It's an advertisement. And you know, some of our galleries, galleries, they're going to make you do that, but the trap museum is us. What made you do GZ? That's good. I love GZ. I just happened to do it. What you love about GZ? Because you got the mad lils. The motivation of the, I mean, just the whole flow of it, yeah, all that. All that, but it was just, I paint what I like, you know what I'm saying? And I just happened to like that. And I sat on the paint and I did the painting. And it took a while for that to even, but I hold onto all my stuff. So, you still here? Yeah, I am. But yeah, that's how that happened. And it just led to this doft thing, but it's just so many opportunities. It's like networking. Everything is networking. And doing what you say you're going to do. You know, so many people have contacted me on stuff and it's just about, can you do it? If I can't do it, I'm going to say I can't do it. Hold on, I have a question. But what you keep doing all of these paintings, these paintings, you normally do it just out of the goodness of your heart and give it to someone. How much does it cost for you to paint? Now the commission, like what I'm saying, I got commission. No, like, I'm talking about like the paint, the canvas, the time. I love the materials. All of that. How much does it vary? He don't want to give up his game. I'm sorry? Okay. Yeah, I mean, How much does the painting cost like somebody would like to buy one? Like in general, like just depending on if it's somebody can make, it may range anywhere from $800 to $5,000. Okay. Just depending on the size. I do it off the detail. How many people, what subject matter? Cause every paint is different and I hate to go into a paint.  Cause that's what you quoted them. And a lot of that, and even with doing dealing with porches and stuff, a lot of that stuff, when you usually do that, when I take on a commission, it's going to be a situation where okay, well, this is how many changes you get. This is how, this understandable. So all of that is okay. Yeah, you got to. Cause the people don't have, you doing 50 million changes.  That's my main thing. I want you to be happy with what you got. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah. What's the most expensive painting you've ever done? 5,000. The most, the most expensive paint I done actually, so it was a paint I did for the Botham John Foundation though, Cynthia Marshall of the Mavericks. She bought it at a Gala, you know, and then she ended up donating the paint back to the organization. You know, that's just, that's just. A little charity. And she was like, man, I don't know. We're going to do that with 5,000. Wow. That's love. How did it make you feel? I don't know. Bliss, you know, that's what I feel like I'm really doing what I'm here to do. Wow. That's heavy, man. But what makes an artist's value go up? I think when he dies. No. No, really. No, because like you kept up with 5,000 right now on the painting, but like say, somebody stay at a gallery. I know when they die, you sell for a lot more. Their auction, something for way more. Well, let me just say this, y'all. Auctions, like Sotheby's, like the big auctions, you get the right, that's one line of way of getting it. If you get an auction, as soon as your piece goes, say if you go to an auction like Sotheby's, and I got a piece that goes for 15 grand. What's that dude named Jay-Z love so much? Boschia. Boschia paint, he did. Them go for how much? Well, they go for millions now. Millions. But he was getting a lot of money before he died too though, because he was with Andy Warhol. Yeah. He was in New York, he was in Soho. He was in the galleries with all the rich, white, upper etch-a-line artists. He was in the right places. Yeah, and he knew the right people. So you get, and like you said, it's about who you know, and who sets a price point in a public forum. Exactly, because that's the moment you're... No, your stuff was so for a million or whatever. I was no, it's no debating that. Yeah. You know, because we can say stuff behind closed doors. Oh, I sold a paint down in Miami at our bazaar for eight grand. Okay. You could, somebody could, you could easily say that. It's not a record. Sotheby's, you can look online. It's all dated, you know what I'm saying? But do you think like, okay, your value can go up, you have to, it's the way you present it, right? Every artist is different too. Every artist is different. Art, it's subjective. Sometimes it's the art, sometimes it's the artist. It's the story. Cause... Just like the brand. The brand. You pay for the brand and you are the brand. Yep. And that's what I'm doing. Like I say, it's not a lot of artists do like what I do. Cause I've been in art shows, in art galleries and they're like, man, you really, you got a lot of collectors, whether they're celebrities, a lot. We got a lot of artwork, but you got a lot of stuff in collectors' homes. That's another type of value. Exactly, cause that's collectors out there. At the end of the day, and I look back at some of the people that got it, like Martin, like I got, you know what I'm saying, when I look at some of these people that can really speak up and that's going to bring a value if it's at the right. I would think what makes a value too, especially to our art piece, like the piece that you painted for Martin, do you make it where like, I'd never paint that exact piece again? Oh yeah. To make it one and one. To make it one and right. That's the one and one.  Oh, you can't do that. I mean, and it's a lot of artists. And nowhere's the value. If it didn't go to Martin, it's one thing I would have it printed. It's prints of that or that type of thing. But once you know it's gone to the collector, now you got a one and one. Who would you like to paint something for? That you had done already? Obama. Had done nothing for Obama yet? I mean, I've done Obama paints. I got Obama paints. But you'd like to give it to him from hand to hand. But that would probably be, you know, something I would want to do. Obama is one who I definitely know that. When I seen his painting, actually it was in DC at the Art Gallery, at the museum in Washington, DC. And he has a painting in the, I think it's the African-American Museum. And it's very dope painting of him.  Who painted it? That's Kendi Wiley. Kendi Wiley, he's in the chair with Alla Green. That's right. That's Kendi Wiley. Yeah, I went to DC and seen that me and my wife and just had a great time. My daughter, I took her up there because she's so fun to part. We actually took her to the New York Museum as well. Then we did, we did the, that was an art we decided to fly out. And we actually made the road trip when we flew to DC and then we drove to New York. So I just rented a car, drove. I do that a lot, drove over to New York and she, I got actually kept all the footage of it too. It's actually a movement man to where I just want to look at her blossom. So that's dope man. So have you, have you done, done that travel? Yeah, I haven't been to that museum. Like I've been to Cali. I've been to modern museum of art. I've been to Georgia's. I haven't been to that one though. I actually wanted to, I want to definitely go to that museum. That's huge. The Smithsonian. Like I have been to the Smithsonian. That's right. And I actually was crazy as I did a piece for Terrence Crutcher. He was a preacher who got killed in Oklahoma City in Tulsa. He had his hands up. It was on the news. It went viral. I did a painting for his family. And that would, the paint, I put him in a suit and everything cause he had a grill and he, everything on the news, they were trying to show him like he was a hood dude. Yeah, but he was a pastor. And I did a painting to him in a suit and whatever. And it was all on at the funeral. They had about a, about a casket and it made nationwide news. And the family was like the museum, the African museum, the Smithsonian wants that piece. They won. And the family was like, we love it Chris. And I was like, I'll do y'all another painting. Cause that, for it to go there, it's going to have for his legacy. He's been in the museum. Cause they doing one on police violence. They can do a whole section just on, you know, anybody that was murdered by the police. And it's still in the works. So hopefully, you know, that comes to fruition. I hope it happened, man. That's just be. That'll be adult, huge for you. You know, and I wouldn't even try to get in the museum but to have a piece like that that means something of, you know, one of our people that got killed by the police. That's where I want to be. You know, I want to help. And what it helps is that you have such a fast turnaround. So when you see something, you can just like, okay, I'm going to do this right now and get it out there. A lot of people can't do that. They wait like days or even a week to finish their piece. And that's the big thing too. Cause I'm never wanted, I'm not a cloud chaser. I don't like doing a lot of stuff. Cause a lot of pieces I do, they have something to do with death. For one, once you do a painting of a love one, a lot of times that people, a lot of family members won't paint after that. I want to, and I tell them right, I'm only doing one. Cause I don't want to charge out for one. I'm going to have to charge out if it's my time. But I don't even feel like this.  And I don't know, it's just the way I'm thinking. You know what I'm saying?  Both of them, John. I did both of them, John. For one, he was in Dallas and there could have been me. You know what I'm saying? So, uh. That was a tough one for you to do? Yeah, yeah, both of them, definitely both of them.  Really? You get killed in your, I mean, that could be anybody. You know what I'm saying? And this guy's from St. Lucia. You know, he was supposed to be big time in St. Lucia. He was doing stuff here to go back and give him St. Lucia. And you just never know, but that one really hit me. And then me knowing the family and just seeing them, I made it a dedication to myself. I said, whatever y'all do with this foundation each year, I'm going to make sure I'm a part of it. Whether it's a pain I donate or something that we can raise money for his name. He has the street, both of them, John Boulevard on the south, that's okay. But we really need to do what else do we got for him. Right.  Well, we want to take you, we see you brought us something. So we want to take a look at it, see what you got to unveil. Money Moses, come on over here. You got to be over here for this said. Yeah, you got to be over here for this said. The brother revealing his pain for us. What's the best way for me to do this? We got all kinds of cameras hitting you, man. So right here, you good right there. Yeah, you good right there. But it's just something, man, I want to do, man. Give y'all y'all roses about y'all here to smell them, man. Man. Y'all give them roses to everybody else. You know what I'm saying? So I just want to do something. That's hard, man. Come on over here and get a good view of that, man. That's hard right there, man. We appreciate you, man. See, Ray, them put it on us, man. You know what I'm saying? That's hard, bro. Y'all appeal us in the community. Hold it up a little higher. Y'all appeal us, you know. Yeah, right there.  I know. I got it.  Thank you so much. Thank you so much, man. That'll work, man. Give me a hand clap for somebody, mother. You can't hear that man in the theater. That's hard, man. He got my braids. I mean, I ain't got the braids in right now, but the braids, the detail on the braids are dope. And hold on. I couldn't. No, you see, he had to show ECEO Waves, though. You see them waves, them waves be popping. Man, I appreciate that, man. You know, that's big, man. You know, that's the first art that we've ever received for sure. And man, that'll be on the wall in here, man. Definitely, man. We're gonna make that a part of the show. Exactly, definitely. We gotta make that a part of the show, man. Definitely. Just appreciate the love and respect, man. For you to come out and do that for us, man. That's huge, man. Yes, sir. Let me get a picture with you there in a minute. We'll do it in about three of us in a minute. Sit back down. Let me talk to you a little bit, man. That's hard, right? I can't keep my eyes off of that, man, and especially the way I'm expressing, you know. You see, it's almost like I'm looking at you and you looking at me too, like we love. No, I'm not looking at you right there. I'm focused on the, I'm focused on... Where you with these pictures, bro? What? Where you with these pictures, bro?  I did a screenshot. I can't even remember. You were debating somebody about Boosi. Oh, dang. I can't see everybody. That was in Waco. I can tell you, in Zaco, we were. Yeah. Had to be in Waco, though, with, uh, with, uh... Can I look up? Mike Frisch? Yeah, Mike Frisch. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That expression on your face right there is... That's where I know from. This is Zaco where I'm from. Man. But I had to go down because I went to ECO's page and I was like, man, let me see what I got. Cause you got an IG, but I think it was, it didn't have no photos. You got a page or something. Yeah, it ain't got no... It wasn't, no, no, no. And I was like, man. That's what I wanted. Okay, I might have been on... He got a couple of them. Okay, I might have been on... I be on him. Believe me, it's something on there, Vee. I be on him. He gonna have something on there. He ain't gonna know. I just went to YouTube. I said, let me put, let me just put money modes on here in Boss Talk. And a few of them came up. I said, oh yeah, let me get that angle. Cause I know I was gonna have you on the other side of them. But it's so crazy how you can screenshot something from a video and get it so precise. That looked just like her. Thank you. It was crazy. Hey, we got it. It was just like love. We got it. That's crazy. How long did it take you to do that pain? Probably about 14 hours. Wow. I was about to say non-stop? No, half a day and then it did it another day. 14 hours and you... But after I left, you know, last time I was here with you guys, I was on... I was on when you wasn't. Now you were subtle though, but you showed me so much love though. But you didn't have to... A lot of people, I be around a lot of people and just to see how you handled it when I was a camp guy. Man, I'm gonna make show, man. It's always like that. That's who we are. It ain't no face. Y'all are a lot like me. We do whatever to help the people, man. I'm doing it through the top. Podcast. Man, we love our people here, especially in the Dallas. Dallas showed us so much love and embraced us so much and built the foundation here. You know, it's big, man, the way the show didn't took off. But it's just a remarkable thing. When you talked about Captain Dubum, you know, that's my guy. Really, that's my real... Like we talk on the phone. We gonna be on that thing for a minute because we always showed each other respect before boss talk. It just better. He knew this story was here and stuff. Oh, we gotta say so much love to my guy Bobo. I'm Bobo. Shout out to Bobo. I just talked to him before I came on the show. And that's how I seen you. I was really like, what the hell is going on when I seen that PMC? I'm like, you know, I'm a PMC fan, bruh. So when I seen that, I seen him burn, I see him feel... And we saw it before he actually pushed out the show because we went over there to help him and look over everything and everything and see how we can help him. He don't see on that thing, man. That's all Erica, right? And then you did everything every time. I didn't see it in person. Not in person. Bobo got one coming to him. You know he got to get him in Jackson County. But he wanted me to do one with him with the chainsaw. You know, when he was doing Psycho Bobo. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, yeah, no, he definitely got a history. We hit that UGK history and him, man. Love, Bobo. They'd been on here, actually, he came on here before he even started doing interviews. Started with a podcast. Anything, this was where, you know, I was... If you rocking with me on that phone, you rocking with me on that phone, you know how I rock, man. It's always motivation and push and nigga-wide and why we ain't doing this and let's do that, you know. Because we only here, man, but life is but a vapor, man. That's it. Just appreciate the love and respect, man. And what if a person wanted to get a painting from you? How would they get a hold to you, right? The best way to hit me is actually, you can go to my website, www.c-rayart.com, and I got an email link. You just put your question in there and I check my emails. Or I'm on Instagram, c.ray.art, and you just hit me in the DM. You mean, and do you have kids? Yeah, I got four kids. Wow. I was gonna bring that up, man, because when I got married, well, I'm divorced now, but my wife had two kids and they in their 20s now, but they both, they both went to Skyline. And with me being from Langston, whatever, but they, you know, they big on Skyline, and like, make sure you mention us in Skyline. Hey, no boss talk, somebody say no boss talk, you gotta get that in there, baby. Do any of them do art, though? None of them do art. None of them do that.  She be with me in the studio at the house, so she might be my best bet. Man, check it, man. Hey, man, if you watch Boss Talk 101, make sure you become a member of Boss Talk 101 on YouTube, or either you can hit us on Patreon for those full-length interviews early. Like I said, man, you guys, man, been rocking with us. We love you guys, man. Like and subscribe to Boss Talk. Money Moses said that. He on the set right now, guy. Brittany Loso is in here, too. We about to get into it. We got a whole bunch talking to do. Did she went out? I don't know. Oh, okay, she'll be back though, man. We gonna, we gonna, we gonna get busy tonight. She missed the reveal, though. Bro, this detail, perfect. Man, hold up, man. I'm excited about the pain, man. Hey, man, it's been another great segment. A Boss Talk 101. C-Ray, we love you, baby. Hey, man, appreciate y'all. You got your hands out, right? Me. Say, say, it's been another great segment. A Boss Talk 101, what a boss's talk. And we out.


Well as we've seen convergences bringing technologies together such as mobile, computer, information technologies, all these are converging and with that of course it's creating new opportunities but also some challenges because we're basically working towards common platforms that industries such as the energy sector, transportation sector, health sector can use in common. It's bringing the need for these industries also to come together so there is convergence not only of technologies but also of these vertical industry sectors and the demarcation lines between the responsibilities of all these different organizations is also blurring due to this convergence so this is also affecting of course the role of ITU since we now have to work with these organizations and entities that previously had no involvement in the organization. So it's a new paradigm shift that we're dealing with and this is one of the exciting things that we'll be discussing this week in Telecom World. The importance of standards is becoming more and more appreciated even at political level because it's only through international standards that we can ensure that we're going to benefit from the economies of scale of equipment and products coming onto a worldwide market. It also means that startup companies in developing countries can enter into this common market. So it's very important from that aspect and also to ensure the interoperability of these products and services and this is why in ITU we started our program on convergence and interoperability to ensure exactly that that anyone anywhere can develop products and services to ITU standards and enter into this global market but also that the user can also benefit from the use of those products and services anywhere in the world. Well ITU is an international partnership of the public and the private sectors. So this is an opportunity for both to come together and discuss in a fairly informal environment how they see the future, how we can develop better collaborative partnerships between the public and the private sector. And how we can outreach and involve these vertical sectors which previously had no involvement in ITU. So we're seeing at this event many new actors coming along and we hope that they'll be leaving here with a better understanding of the organization and how to contribute to our future work. I believe we all have a responsibility to contribute to this dialogue both those from the traditional participants in ITU but also then perhaps especially the new participants to contribute to how the ICT sector is going to develop in the future because the ICT sector is prevalent in all walks of life, all businesses and social economies. So how it develops is going to determine how future governance networks both the legislation and the social and economic fiber of the life in the future will develop. So it's a very important role and we all need to contribute to that dialogue.


Good morning, folks. Today is October 29, 2018, Monday, Monday, Monday, TGIM. We're winding down the month here. Let's check for Xfactory to see what is on the docket. We have loan officer survey that's tentative, and that's the only thing. That's the only thing happening today. I do see spy is up $3.50. That's a big, that's a big gap up, big gap up. Let's see what happens. As always, everybody, we are being patient. I just realized that I like Apple, but earnings, earnings are inflating the price of the options there. And I can't afford anything because I only have $520 in my trading account. I can barely afford the two 15 puts that expire in four days. They're trading at 440. I'm just going to sit here patiently, sit on my hands, but that does look pretty gosh darn good right there. Let's see, Facebook. I like Facebook here. Four days earnings as well, geez. 148 puts, gosh, they're expensive as well. 148 puts that expire in four days, they're trading at $6.45. So even if I wanted to get in, I can't, I can't even afford them. With that being said, let's check to see when they actually come out with earnings. It looks like Apple is set to come out with earnings November 1st, which is Thursday after the bell, after the market closes and Facebook October 30th. So that's tomorrow after the market closes. So maybe we might be able to trade Facebook. I'm really liking spy calls now. The 270 calls that expire in four days, trading at 290, I'm really actually liking them. Wow, they're moving, they're moving fast. There's my signal. Okay, it looks like I got in, got in at 306. We're already in the profit. And I am out. Got in at 306 and sold at 323. 306 got out at 323. I only bought one contract. I can only afford one contract. Pretty cool. I was really patient just trying to find, you know, my rhythm back here. I did good. I locked in my profit. So I made 17 cents on that trade and I made 5.55%. So I'm averaging right at 5% guys, a little above 5%. That's okay. Again, my goal is five to 10%. I was patient. I waited for my trade. I actually got in late. I saw those calls at under sub $3, sub $3. But we're good. I'm happy. What's going on, everybody? This is Giovanni from spy options trading here with a new trading video. As you saw in the video, I did make a good trade. I made some money. I didn't make a whole lot of money, but that's not necessarily what it's about right now. Just trying to really concentrate on building my $500 trading account because I have nothing more to trade with. But anyways, guys, something that I didn't show that I didn't think about showing because I don't really typically think about seeing what the high is of any option. But I sold at two cents under the high of the day for those call options. So that's pretty cool. That doesn't really mean anything, but it's just, it's satisfying. That's really all it is. The high of the day for those call options that I traded was $3.25 and I sold at $3.23 as you saw in that video. Another thing that I noticed while I was editing my video is there's another great trade to be had on the downside. My signals popped up really nicely, really cool, really satisfying, really happy about that. I'm happy that I'm able to identify some good trades. Whether I make money or not, of course, the end result is so awesome and that's what we're here for to make money. But what's more satisfying is being able to identify, hey, I have an opportunity to make money here and I'm looking for very specific criteria, guys. Enter my drawing. If you enter my drawing and get picked, you're going to get all this.  And anyways, guys, enter my drawing. It ends November 5th a week from today. You got one week, everybody. One week. Shoot me an email at spotoptionstrading at gmail.com with the subject line, round two. Pick a number between one and 50 and tell me a little bit about yourself and three lucky winners will be selected at random on Wednesday, November 7th. Those lucky three are going to get my signals, my trading plan, my trading strategy, everything as a whole. They're going to get one hour of my time. We're going to talk trading, we're going to talk stocks, we're going to talk making money, everybody. Thank you so much for watching, everybody. Hit that subscribe button, like and share my videos. Comment down below, guys. I can't stress enough. Comment down below what you think about this video. Do you like it? Do you hate it? Do you want more of something? Do you want less of something? Tell me down below, everybody. Remember, as soon as I hit a thousand subscribers, I'm going to get my signals away free anyways. But those lucky three are going to get a head start on everybody. Thank you so much, everybody, for watching. Smash that subscribe button, everybody. Thank you so much for watching.


Wow and just like that the Steelers are out of first place in the AFC and now with them being out of first place in the AFC it hits a lot different than it would in years past because right now they will be the number two seed and they are the number two seed but ain't no bye week with that there's no bye week that comes with that you will still get your home field advantage and whatnot you got that but there's no buy so this intensifies the Steelers that the remainder of their schedule that much more because now like you got to fight back and now you got to hope that the Chiefs fall you got to hope and pray that these Chiefs slip up so you can catch them because before you had them by one and then you were tied with them but now you're below them you're below them and Steelers they better get a grip fast now one thing I will say with the Steelers yes they they were 11 and 0 now they lost their last two games for them yeah it sucks to lose trust me we all know but one bright spot that you can take out all of this is that it's happening now rather than in the playoffs now see had they went undefeated that would that would put even more pressure on them in the playoffs but since they already got a couple of losses out the way and who knows it could be even more you just never know that like let's look at their schedule really quick they have up next they played a big oh well that's a win they there's no way they lose that game against the there's no way they lose that if they lose that if there's no way they lose that but then they play the Colts and the Browns to finish it out you play the Colts and the Browns to finish it out two teams fighting who Steelers y'all better tighten up and tighten up fast but the thing with the Steelers what are the problems with Pittsburgh what are the issues with Pittsburgh now of course they did suffer some injuries but the pre he's out for the season Joe Hayden he was out this game too but their defense is still legitimate but it's the offense offense has been the biggest issue of course Deontay was it Deontay Johnson I believe it was him who was having all the drops and he's been having a lot of drops I mean and it hasn't just been him Steelers receivers have just they've been dropping they've been dropping but I do love about the Steelers what they did in this game he had the drops early on but toward the end of the game they ended up going back to them they let him clear his head for a little bit and they ended up going back to him but Steelers offense just as a whole especially the deep ball especially the deep ball there were a couple passes especially the interception that um oh Wallace I think Levi Wallace the interception that Wallace caught there were a couple passes where Ben Roussberg was like you know what one all receivers got to be down there just toss it up toss it up for grabs and Wallace had a really nice pick on that one the pass rush for the bills it was decent and it wasn't getting the Ben Roussberg too much but they were decent tonight but they did have him rattled enough to where he he had were 40 I want to say 47 passes let me you know what let me just pull up the exact numbers because I mean why make it hard on myself and try to go by memory he owe 37 passes he was 21 for 37 187 yards average 5.1 yards per pass two touchdowns and two interceptions he only got sacked once but it just it's been a struggle for Pittsburgh's offense not this entire season but throughout the season and they have even though they've won obviously one majority of their games the offense has still struggled a lot at times and again they they got to fix something and they better fix it fast because playoffs is literally right around the corner they are right around the corner we got three weeks left it's so sad because football season goes by so fast but anyway that's the Steelers what about these bills these bills in that 10 and 3 check them out leading the AFC East Patriots Thursday they lost got whooped dolphins today they lost to the chiefs and bills like hey let's go there's a feeling it right now Josh Allen you know he got to be happy he's like hey I came on here my rookie season I did all right then my sophomore season hey we did a little better made the playoffs and all and then we did get okie-dokie in the game against the Texans in the playoffs but everybody will pass that now but he's like hey okay I showed me I showed myself to you guys bills what are y'all gonna show to me and the bill say you know what we got you John Brown yeah they had him cold busy yeah they had him they say you know what let's go get you a true number one true number one and they went out and got Stefan Diggs and how has Josh Allen shown his appreciation for one Stefan Diggs well Stefan Diggs is the league leader in receptions this year the league leader he's caught over a hundred passes all from Josh Allen so you can tell Josh Allen really loves this guy and he really trusts this guy as well and one of the games that was really a statement game besides this one because this one was definitely a statement game too because you beat one of the top dogs in the AFC but another game that was a very a statement game or just really a statement moment from Josh Allen in the bills was against the Cardinals it was against the Cardinals very into the game right before Kyla Murray got the ball and they threw that Hail Mary but Josh Allen a lot of people forget what happened at the end of that game well before the Hail Mary Josh Allen had through the go-ahead touchdown to a Stefan Diggs and that could have been a game winning drive on Josh Allen's record but Kyla Murray and DeAndre Hopkins they had other plans but my point is that he really trusts this guy there was some third down catches and some third down plays that Stefan Diggs made tonight you could tell Josh Allen really trusts him there was even it was a pass in the first quarter with Josh Allen it was one of them Ben Rothesburg passes where he's like man Stefan Diggs got to be down there somewhere here and he just threw it up Stefan Diggs didn't come down with it but that's that trust because there were actually two Pittsburgh Steelers defenders in the area but he still threw it up he tried it okay I mean hey what's the worst that could happen but that was good by the bills really are providing Josh weapon I mean providing Josh Allen that true weapon now again both offenses they were pretty sloppy in this one so both defenses they got to benefit but Josh Allen he made the most plays and he made them when they counted Tredavius White shows why they gave him the money I remember there was some talk about him possibly opting out but then all of a sudden this big contract just popped up out of nowhere but so it is end up paying off and I mean he's one of the best cornerbacks in the game so we knew it was gonna pay off bills just they they I feel like they've been like this that they're quiet ten and three because I you hear people of course talking about the cheese you hear people of course talking about the Steelers and what not I don't really hit too much talk about the bills I really don't it's crazy Josh Allen one of the things that he got criticized so much for and he's still having from time to time but he actually makes he makes more plays than he misses he got criticized a lot for all his over throws that was his biggest thing and I remember even looking back at last year whenever I thought about Josh Allen that was one of the things I thought he needed to fix that was his biggest issue where he just put too much strength too much too much power on his throws and not enough touch but the over throws they've been getting better they still come through here and there cuz I mean when you got that big arm sometimes you just let it go you don't even know your own strength it's like incredible hawk on the ball sometimes but he's a he's he's came down with that a lot and I didn't even realize until they showed the statistic on the string on the screen I didn't even realize how not even good how great Josh Allen has been in the red zone they said that he he had like 35 touchdowns and zero interceptions for his career and we know this is his third year so for his career 35 touchdowns in the red zone no interceptions so when he gets down there he takes care of that ball he takes care of that ball and I really thought when they said that I was like oh boy commentators done said it and we know sometimes when the commentators say something then the opposite usually happens like when they say oh this kicker he doesn't miss any kicks inside the 40 he's 70 for 70 oh man what happened next why left so when they said that about Josh Allen I was thinking uh-oh they about to throw an interception and he still is about to start making a comeback but he didn't do it and he actually threw a great pass but 13 from the bills they said it was illegal touching cuz he stepped out of bounds and he came back in and was the first one to touch the ball and even though he did drop it but it was still illegal touching but a great pass from Josh Allen and they end up being holding on his offensive linemen too cuz they held I was about to say JJ why they held TJ Watt on that play and TJ Watt is a monster by the way if you didn't already know I'm sure you all knew that already but bills bills are looking to lock up their division did they lock it up already I don't think they have officially cuz dolphins are technically I believe yeah dolphins are still technically in the race for the division but dolphins ain't catching I just I don't see that happening at all so this was a good game good game our bills they need to keep this going and Steelers they better get something going fast they read they better tighten some stuff up quick fast and in a hurry but anyway team keep it clean I appreciate y'all I love y'all this AFC race is tighter than ever man it is tighter than ever of course with the Chiefs Steelers Browns dolphins coats Raiders Ravens Titans it is tight man so may the best teams get in we'll see how it goes I mean hopefully the best team ends up being Ravens but I mean Vegas can't be choosers right