at I can see my only question would be how it is going to in fact be enforced that's and whether or not that will be enforced and whether or not that who's going to enforce it and I mean they're crying out about the lack of clarity yeah so but state so the point is as you see so then some people who have concerns about the hate speech laws all of a sudden they're being labelled as homophobic or transphobic or racist because they have concerns about how far reaching this hate speech may be and limit debate and conversation and with respect Sinead you sound like you might have similar concerns yourself so so I think that's what Joe's talking to in the democracy we have now even though we might agree it seems we can't really comfortably have the conversation I know and I don't Greg I don't have any concerns with what I can see in the hate speech law at all as being proposed at all and it actually is in fact you know you would swear that this was in somewhat with some kind of outlier or some new new thing that's happened in the world that law is actually those that proposed law is actually going to bring us into line all right okay just stay there that line will come back Sinead if you can hear me stay where you are Joe you're shaking your head there that totally there's serious concerns Michael D Michael McDowell a formal AG a man of great legal mind has serious concerns as a senator now has serious concerns about this and she says we're bringing this into line I presume she was going to say with the rest of the world many governments many people throughout the world have been watching Ireland and are concerned have expressed concerns about the free speech it's going to happen yeah but that's no the international commentators Joe are have their concerns how it's being framed to them with people with their own agenda as well you see I want to have a real open conversation but I want it to be real and open Elon Musk had a certain a certain interpretation if we're going to talk about him and JFK the same as well they had a certain framing of this H speed law and it's that's which they commented on they didn't comment on actually they never read it or didn't have any understanding of it they just saw right that group has said this is this that and done and there in a game lies that lies part of the problem Joe well see the thing is just fundamentally if you ever look at a statue of justice and courthouses it's Lady Justice standing with a weighing scale holding the balance and she's blindfolded yeah so everybody comes before the law equal you are innocent uncle proven guilty this law suburbs that constitutional reality you are guilty uncle proven innocent that is that is a that is a flapping of our basic but as I say this still has to be dealt dealt through and that is an interpretation of it Joe it's not great because that is the the owners will be on the person to prove their innocence that you did not have this material if you have it on your WhatsApp that you didn't have it with a man who's been made very clear that you could have a racist meme on your phone it's not a crime but if you intend to go and distribute that you don't have to prove that you were never going to go and distribute it that that's that's I think that's making my girls concerned but then but that is that that is looking at what what really really could be possible you don't seriously think any government really actually wants to interpret and enforce the law like that Joe I mean that's I'm not saying it's facetious but I mean well well Greg let's we're having a conversation I mean people that I know that I speak to are telling me and I would love your listeners to phone and do they feel that they can no longer speak in this society do they feel that they're being made shut up and means mean silenced and I guarantee you many people will say that to you Sinead can I put that to Sinead to Sinead listen I mean me you've been on the show before Joe's been on the show before I think we could all probably we could all have a pint and a bit of crack do you know what I mean we're not you know we're not we're not all sort of but there there is a point that we have got to a stage Sinead now though if someone has anything even remotely conservative of a point of view it's hard to get them to come on the radio because they're afraid that they'll be seen as backward or they'll be shot down forward so I'm not on about really extreme views Sinead I'm on about something that someone says you know what I think we're going just a little bit too far here and people like that feel they don't have a voice they're afraid to speak up we don't want to be in that space either Sinead do we no definitely not but the problem I have here is that you know so what is it that's being said that people feel whether being silenced and it's usually to be honest the people who are saying that they feel silenced right say for instance Sinead I'll give you an exact I'll give you an exact example there are people who say for instance on transgenderism for example that they are perfectly happy to support and accept anyone who's of 18 years of age to live that life that they want to live and they will address them as they want to be addressed and they will respect them and that's fine but the same people then might be concerned that young teenagers are being taught stuff in that regard now I'm not going down the library's route and the book stuff I'm not on about any of that Sinead but that might be taught stuff that could confuse them that it's hard for them to deal with that they don't want their children to be exposed to but we have a curriculum that is insisting on this being taught to them but they can't express that view in case they get lumped in with people that are waving certain books in the air and and and screaming in the face of librarians those people don't feel they can speak Sinead that are happy that people live their lives as adults but are concerned of the influence this type of conversation narrative might have on their vulnerable children or their impressionable children so and I mean I have heard people on the radio talking about this Joe sorry Greg Jeepers but I have here heard people on high and talking about this they have on a high and it's different I think yeah and that's the thing this is what this space affords this space affords everybody to say with their piece now you know me I will 100% disagree and just anything that's extremist especially on the right side of things I'm going no but there are people who may have genuine concerns and that is where the conversation needs to happen but if those people are not having conversations with people who are informed with people who are experts in the subject that's where the problem is but their parents are experts in what they think is right for their children too their experts and their children yeah they are and I mean I'm a mother you know I'm actually with my children however you know you do also have to listen to the experts and to be perfectly honest it's not the kids who have a problem with any of this it's the older people people my generation and above but you see just in terms of experts in terms of experts I don't want them being drove back in yet in a second but like say for instance vaping right you know vaping stops you smoking smoking gives you cancer but we don't really know this is probably a terrible example but we can't say vaping is brilliant because we don't really know what the consequences might be in 5, 10, 15, 20 years time right now in terms of the policies that we're employing now as to what we teach our children and how we teach them yes that is the maybe some experts view at this time but we really don't know how that will affect people in in years to come we don't even really have enough information to find out that if someone transitions for example what percentage of them it improves their lives or how they might feel at 25, 30, 35, 40 depending on when they threw that so we can't blindly accept all of the information because we don't no expert could truly know it at this point Sinead so we need to be really careful that the decisions we make now as well-intentioned as they are are the right decisions if because we all love our children and care for them but we have to be absolutely certain that what we're doing now is right because the consequences and ramifications for future generations if we get it wrong now Sinead could be massive but I mean I mean teaching something in school and and teaching that this is something that does exist in our world it's a you know and there are people annoyed to this radio who are transgender and you know teaching children about a reality of life is a completely different thing from coercing them into thinking that way or for sure make it giving them some you know kids are presented with a lot of information a lot and it doesn't mean to say I mean kids are taught kids are taught about the holocaust that doesn't mean to say that they go down and and you know they turn into they're taught a fact and this is a fact of life that there are transgender people right now in our community um and that this is a fact of life that is not something that can be brushed under the sea but we also have to make sure that in that space then right so in that space too we also have to say right well we've talked about lots of different things but there also is this a man and woman can get together and they can have children do you know what I mean like we have to make sure it covers all bases then so but it does yeah I mean I mean it doesn't it doesn't exclude that just in favour of teaching kids about transgenderism or teaching kids about LGBTQ plus um you know matters it doesn't it doesn't exclude anything yeah and the kids don't have a problem with it it's the parents and the people my yeah I think I think it'll have the problem and I think Sinead a lot of parents who are very vexed about this if the truth be told they should talk to the kids because the kids know all about it they've got friends of all different types and they get on with it they've got no issues whatsoever and they wonder what these old people are all going on about because it's lost their life and they get it right Sinead listen to that and I would like just to say sorry I just want to say the kids are reading about this on the internet and they're reading God knows what on the internet Greg I would much rather that children were taught the facts as opposed to you know the extremes that they can see on the internet so you know we should all aim to make our kids knowledgeable knowledgeable about the word so that they can handle the word when they're adults I think there's a lot of there's a lot of that's the entire point of it and there's quite a bit of disagreement there's a lot of agreement to in this this situation not from me but from you and Joe Sinead thanks for your time great to chat to you all right all right okay and as I say it's good to hear all sorts right last couple of minutes to you Joe because I've completely thrown the agenda out the window now at this point look can I just say like Sinead obviously is an articulate lady that's able to express her mind and has no fear I think there's a silent majority that are afraid you talked about this before you know there are a number of people that haven't the confidence she has I'm expressing my mind and I don't necessarily want to be labeled in that but the point I'm trying to make is and she hit the nail in the head when she said conversation both of us three of us should I say we're having a conversation and what she talked about for example the transgender element there she said you know teaching the facts the kids don't really need to be taught the facts about this because as you said they already know this I have young children they understand this they know this it's the way then it's been taught and it's the agenda that's behind that and when they get a little gap the agenda they make it so wide and that's the concern parents have and for example to be able to talk about for example we're on about transgenders what impact is this having on young girls saying changing rooms and dressing rooms what impact is have this having on women's sport and maybe women are afraid to yeah but we'll work in fairness though in terms of the women in sport thing we're working through that now we are seeing the fact that you know maybe things went a little bit too quick too soon and we are seeing now new rules and regs being brought in to recognize obvious anomalies and things that don't make sense and I don't think there are trans people honestly running around changing rooms and toilets harassing people in women's toilets you go to a toilet in a cubicle I don't know why there's not cubicles in every toilet for that matter peeing against the wall just seems neanderthal to me but anyway listen I take your point Joe as always interesting you've started a conversation a lot of people are agreeing with you I don't think I want to live in a country whereby you have what's seen as the government media I'm not saying that's the case but you're seen as the government media and now what you're seeing is you're seeing little shows and podcasts popping up whereby it's only the right or people that get their views hey it's great for advertising revenue all that that's fine but we still need to all share the same space I think Joe and have the conversations in the same place we might disagree we might agree but let's not call each other's names unless someone comes out with something ridiculously offensive but you know what I mean the point is Greg and the hard work is trying to get people in the center and to keep them in the center that's where real democracy happens and that's where the struggle is and as you point out you know going to extremes is a dangerous place and what will happen you will see this happen in Ireland you will see them jump on the immigrant issue you'll see them jump on other issues as political campaigns go ahead and they will be divisive and rather than holding the center and again as I mentioned because we've got the situation saying Dublin there are people being by young white Irish guys being beaten up in the streets women being assaulted terrible stuff happening there's awful things happening to children in this country at the moment in terms of how they're cared in Kusla and yet and I've no criticism of it but then you've got other groups of people that are standing outside empty hotels saying there's men going to come in here and do awful things in the community and to our children we all need to sort of say right it doesn't really matter where you come from what have you but we need to actually put children first we need to put people first you know and then you'll have one group will ignore one problem because it suits their agenda and another group will ignore another problem but we're not getting anywhere we're not getting anywhere we're just getting more and more polarised we're in more echo chambers of her own points of view and we're coming to oblivious to what's actually happening whilst talking about what could happen or ignoring what could happen and focusing only on what is happening it's crazy Joe we need to sort of get rid of our apathy and get our heads together and start talking to each other stop being polarised and start working through what we want from the best for this country and don't be afraid or scared into thinking a certain way think for yourself well I think again this is back to the present government we have there is no explanations they don't have to explain and as I said to you we no longer have TDs we have DTs they tell us coming down from the dial what we're going to get I mean on your own show I've not heard very many government ministers or TDs explaining laws that they're bringing in they go and they give their five minute or three minute speech that their speechwriters write for them and then they go there's no debate there's no conversation and again I think that's and public accountability too it's there's a serious problem in this country with how the media engage with with with the people that are elected or how they allow themselves to to engage the rules and regs you know where we should be able to have proper debate and proper scrutiny of things I mean that's that's that's the fundamental of democracy I would have thought that you have conversations you have debates you scrutinise things you you you hear people's concerns you answer people's concerns you know not not line up for a handy three minute interview where the interview where the questions have been set up in advance how does that further democracy or information or understanding that that's what I'm trying to say this is what we have with the present government and there's no debate there's no discussion there's no accountability and like what you have an RT I don't think it's exclusive to this government though I think it's politics I mean we'll see what happens if a government changes but I don't see I don't see it what what sorry I don't mean to be political in the sense of mean phenophile or phenogale I mean anybody can be in government but government for me is the people that rule remember not all phenogale or phenophile TDs are in that government they're supporting the government the government is the ministers if you understand that is what the government is a very very small handful of people that's what I mean by the government not necessarily all the 160 TDs outside that circle but the thing is then it's not good enough anymore for people to think our democracy back to Brent and we'll end with this Benjamin Franklin a republic madam if you can keep it and what my discussion is I am concerned that our republic is not being kept because we the people are not being listened to and we the people ourselves are not taking the responsibilities and duties of democracy onto ourselves and if it's been reporting a pothole or a sign the right way or asking for the right answers and for the truth from our politicians all that is part of our duty as voting people of this country democracy isn't just once every five years yeah I'm glad I tell you what I'm really glad I'm glad that I am at the end of this rather than starting in it because I wouldn't like a full career of working in media in the political setup I'm glad I'm at the end of it I wouldn't like to be starting there wow that's that's very very interesting and and again I just wonder I mean a number of our TDs are are stepping down don't want to go again like what is it that's that's that's dead and are on our political careers that people aren't willing to go into this field anymore in this space anymore is it just that you're there just to make up numbers that you're not there to speak and express your mind I mean I know one politician I'm not say who fairly well and in all my years since they've become a politician I have never heard them express their own mind they always express political speak but and it's a sad way for that individual to have lived their full political life never having expressed their own mind what a way to live Slang-a-fall boo-hoo-my Slang-a-fall okay take care Joe thanks very much indeed Dr Joe Kelly there 08 6 60 25 000 WhatsApp or text so give us a call and 07 491 25 000 by five see McGee's IE for more details hold your memories in your hand with McGee's chemist letter Kenny are you worried about trees on your property Northwest Forestry Services Bully Buffet are fully insured and have over 40 years experience in dangerous tree removal tree felling surgery and stump grinding for peace of mind call Northwest Forest Services Bully Buffet for no obligation quotation on 9132033 232 three simple numbers but for Audi they 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completely disagree with but anyways and that's what being free thinking individuals is all about anyone who wants to get involved in that conversation 08, 6, 60, 25,000 perhaps you feel perhaps you feel that he's gone too far it's something we're going to return to as well as well of course now Marie Dorian founder of Rose and Rainbows infertility and miscarriage support in Lettacenny and joins us now Marie thank you so much for your time this morning Hi Greg thanks for having me right Minister for Health Steve and Donnelly is announcing full public funding for a cycle of IVF for eligible couples from September this will be the first time in the state that assisted human reproduction treatment is publicly available there are some caveats in there but before we get to that I suppose the fact that we have a scheme now that gives eligible couples at least one round of IVF it's been a long time coming I would imagine it feels like Marie absolutely Greg absolutely an amazing day for the country and I think within our community we just want to share so much gratitude as this trip I think it's absolute within today Mark unfortunately it was on the day in the 19th set Marie the phone the other phone lines going to going to park can I disconnect you could you hang up Rean allow us to call you straight back again if that's okay please because it's an important to it's an important conversation and one which I want everyone to be able to hear Marie's views on so Caroline can you bang Marie through again I totally agree with Joe it's very difficult to express certain views in our world today Joe is wise beyond his years well done the woke will never be happy the government knows this and keeps recruiting them to push the latest agenda the North Pole will soon be the South Pole but you see then one's calling group of people the far right the others call them the woke and I just it really turns me off why are the people who complain about being silenced always on the national radio TV and social media shouting about it pretty good point Marie are you back with me yeah I'm here now very lovely stuff so you were saying there I think about how this is such an important day and I think you were going to reference some timeline in the past there yes so today actually is the birth of the first IVF baby in 1978 so it's a really special day for everyone today in our community and I like it's fantastic especially for people starting out on the road it's you know it's going to take a lot of financially just on that first round maybe or if it's gone through one round already and looking at their second it's going to be a big big help yeah what about the the BMI ceiling and the age 41 can you understand why that's in there is that a problem Marie is that something that needs looking at with every screen there is going to be clauses but I just did a quick poll this morning there's also from 19 people that voted got right away six quali sorry three qualified from it from what they've seen this morning and three or one sure okay Marie can I come back to you when we've about the line because it's an important issue we've covered it a lot over the years and I think when there has been such a breakthrough I would love a proper chat with you so Caroline might arrange that with you Marie we might get you on a landline or something but we get your view that it's a it's a monumental day and thank you Marie but I want to come back to you when we've about the line that's Marie Dorey in there and as I say it is something we will return to Greg we know that this government is rotten to the core look what they've done to our unborn children abortion the merger of our future carers but that's not how some people see it either and that's again incredibly strong emotive language and it's your language and that's fine I've just read it Joe's 100% right if you speak out you're cancelled by a campaign to promote a certain view again like who's cancelled to you know like I mean we've a lot of speakers in this country like I'm thinking Patatou Bean for example you know he's he has a views a lot of views that align to maybe a lot of views that Joe might have and he's on this show and fairness he gets a national platform I'm trying to think of other groups that have similar views more conservative groups that there are out there I mean now that I'm struggling for an example that might sound like I'm losing the argument but you know what I mean like there are strong voices out there with a more conservative tone to them that aren't being silence that they do have a platform I think it suits some people to say that oh if you speak out you're but I mean there are some platforms where you can still have a debate and a conversation agreed with Joe you cannot speak anymore about anything or you're labelled I agree 100 but then again you see some people who agree with Joe are labelling people who disagree with Joe woke and there we go you know I'd love if we could move away from that not me and you or the listener and me I'm not trying to tell you how to speak I had to text in I hope you understand what I'm saying I'm about also as a society I agree 100% with Dr. Jones so glad someone's allowed to voice what he has just said if some well less known person said what he said they'd be vilified thank God someone can see clearly what's going on with our politicians and government Mary Doherty there you say that but we had a lady on last week who had quite strong conservative views she was a concerned parent she wasn't vilified we didn't get a load of messages in or no comments on social media saying get that woman off the radio or anything like that there she had her say and I hope she felt respected in her view and as I say some people agreed some people just agreed it'd be boring if we all agreed wouldn't it's okay back shortly watch the show live now on YouTube Facebook and at highlandradio.com go full needle today for savings that stack up 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the overall context of the number of charities that there are in Ireland but it is a sector of course that needs regulation and it's important and we have that and you get representations from members of the public I presume over the course of the year with their concerns so that's really what some of the findings are it's reflecting that and the investigations that follow yeah so are we issued our annual report today Greg and in that we've covered a number of areas of our work just letting people know what happened during 2022 so in that you know one of the good things that we saw is that charities are engaging with the charities governance code it's how you run your charity well and we're really heart to see the level of engagement by the sector with that it's really really important and then also we covered the concerns these be complaints about charities that we call concerns that we get in from the public during the year so in total we would have got and you know over a 600 concerns would have been raised with us but it's important to remember a that's in the context of 11,500 charities but also not all of those would relate to registered charities in Ireland they relate to other organizations that people may have taught like go fund me other crowdfunding platforms that people believe are charitable organizations but aren't Am I correct? Yeah that actually came out in our survey there that we issued the report there in May Greg and actually yeah it was interesting to see what people taught were charities such as commercial funding platforms online no their commercial entities are definitely not charities similarly sporting bodies in Ireland are not charities so they wouldn't be covered by the charities regulators remit so if your local club was running a fund raising draw and you thought that you know they've raised a hundred grand and the bingo jackpots a thousand it's a discreet that's not a charity you can that's not a charity as such exactly that's a matter for for the organization themselves and they wouldn't be regulated by the charities regulator but I mean we would we would get concerns raised with us that do do fall within our remit that do relate to charities but what I would say about that Greg is that you know we publish a compliance report every year where we talk about the number of statutory actions that we've taken whether it's a statutory direction to provide information or it's a point in inspectors etc and you know 98% of cases where we're engaging with charities the charities will engage with us voluntarily and they want to be in compliance and they will you know we will work with them to bring them into compliance see what the issue is so it is a very small number where we'll be forced to take our statutory or you know to enforce it through use of our statutory powers so I think that's that's a positive story for the sector itself because there is that willingness once it's brought to their attention that something may not be may not be going right or they may not be following best practice most charities the vast majority are very happy to ensure that they they rectify that it seems that I mean when we start talking about governance standards it starts becoming a bit concerning but I think a lot of these problems could be resolved if a lot of the charities which are probably you know a small group of people got their paperwork together on time exactly yeah you know there's how the charities has run and we've got that governance code that I mentioned there and which sets out basic standards of governance you know how you run it well and most charities absolutely engage with that and they found that really useful tool and we've got a lot of supporting materials for charities of any difficulties in that area you know things like how do you do minutes for your meetings the big thing I'd say to charities is to make sure that your trustees they're the people who take on the biggest responsibility in charities and they're volunteers so they're the people sitting on your local committee board or your if it's a company the the board of directors and what's absolutely essential is that they know what's going on in their charity from the perspective of the finances and to make sure that everything that is collected whether it's money or donations and goods that everything is going to the organization's charitable purpose and helping the people that they were set up to to help is there any appetite or scope to bring the likes of these crowd crowd form these crowd funding organizations or businesses under some umbrella or rather because if I was in the charity sector I would be concerned about sort of maybe you know the toxic influence on the good work that's done you know there's quite a lot of grifting going on at the moment for different reasons and people might go what's going on there where's that money going you know yourself is there any conversation about sort of trying to make it a fair and level playing field in terms of seeking money from from the public for causes well I'm not aware of any specific proposals in relation to that great but what I would say is that we have a lot and particularly during 2022 and into this year as well we have our our initiatives where we're out there telling the public to please make sure that if you are donating or you intend to donate to a charity to make sure that the entity is in fact a register charity and there is a register for that there is there's a publicly available register of charities and you can find it at checkacharity.ie so what we say to everybody is to click check and then give so what it's about Greg is making sure that if you're going to give your hard earned cash or your donations of goods in a plastic bag at a door or whatever to make sure that it's going where you intended to go and that it is a register charity and it's really easy to check that. Anything else of note that you think is important that we know? Yeah I think you would have seen there that we were we were disappointed at the drop in compliance rates with the charity's annual report so this is a really basic form that consists of financial information and activities that a charity engaged in in the previous financial year and the level of compliance rates are falling in that so we're working with charity groups and different trustees and stakeholders to see what the reason for that is but I would say to charities it's really important that you submit that form and that you submit it on time we have a compliance and enforcement program in place at the moment and charities will be removed from the register if they are not submitting their annual reports it's really important for the public that they have transparency in relation to the finances of charities that they are supporting yeah okay 59% of charities filing an annual report on their finances and activities it's much lower than you might want bought in fairness that's on time Greg I should say because you have to do it within 10 months of your financial year end by the end of the year we'd over 70% of charities filing the annual report albeit that it was late but that's still that's still not high enough we need all charities a very basic compliance requirement so what I'd say to people particularly if you're a trustee and if you're a charity trustee you know we've over 75,000 of them in Ireland they take on considerable responsibilities they do amazing work so what I would say to those charity trustees is you know checkacharity.ie hop on and check your own charities entry on the register and make sure that you are compliant Helen thank you for your time I'm thanks man my curiosity is to what actually is behind you I'm not gonna put you in a position but I just want to know I wish this is the office I wish I had Greg I just want to see how it compares like that advert where they're afraid to show their kitchen in the background that was running through lockdown all that's behind me is my office I'm only I'm I'm testing it just like just looks so beautiful okay listen Helen thanks for your time have a lovely day Helen Martin there who's the chief executive of the Charities Regulator with a beautiful background there on the video call 08 660 25,000 all the really busy morning on the texts and phone lines thank you so much for that we'll get to a few of those before we end the show so let's take this break it's the 50% off mega summer sale at right price tiles and wood flooring up to 50% off all tiles wood flooring outdoor porcelain tiles cladding and bathware everything in store has been slashed in price the right price tiles on wood flooring 50% off mega summer sale stores nationwide sale extended until Sunday I've just had the Eclipse cinemas experience wow they truly have taken a native the movies to a whole new level amazing recliner chairs directors lounge VIP rooms pizza and hot food served to your seat have a glass of wine and 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his partner earlier on they're all very distressed looking to get him home so there's an image of him there he's quite recognizable I hope and we really hope to get them reunited safely that's the wish isn't it fingers crossed Dr Joe Kelly's 100% he's definitely hitting the mark and what's happening in this country according to one listener another there's no government here there is a dictatorship that comes in from Andy I think Andy we have to be really careful when we ban the word dictatorship around I don't know how many of us will actually really like to live in the you know the actual reality of a dictatorship but I take your point good man Joe how refreshing his voice should be heard nationally hi Greg would agree with Joe 100% the city of Irish just sit back and take everything there's a new law every month now in Ireland and we just sit back was the same with Covid we believed everything this government said my three children can't wait to get out of this country we're all finished big time well they're going to be going to another country that took all the same actions during Covid and their governments pretty much run the same but I take your point Greg Dr Joe epitomizes the saying the arrogance of the white middle-aged western man another in the last election Sinn Fein and Fina Fall got the most votes and that's the government that should have been in power if we had true democracy the Green Party weren't given a mandate by the people to be in government that was given to them by Micheal Martin for his own selfish ambition to be a half in half at T Shock but we have proportional representation and those are the rules under which we vote so Greg Joe was mentioning the Constitution the Constitution is now overrun by Europe Dr Joe Kelly for T Shock we need politicians like him to sort out our country and stand up to Europe Greg Joe's talking for us I only wish we had TDS like him were being sold out to Europe but listen anyone the one thing about democracy anyone can stand for election but you know then do people come out and go right okay actually really want to change I'll vote this way or other a woman was assaulted in Temple Bar yesterday another man was attacked on Java Street last night strange that RTE isn't mentioning it surely our national broadcaster isn't being gagged from broadcasting bad news I heard both those stories in RTE so I'm not really quite sure what you mean by that not every assault is reported either by the way it should be said depends how serious the are and so on and so forth I don't see them there we definitely got notification of it here though so I don't know what the story is I mean you might be tracking actually by the way the story of a case involving a Donegal person a 55 year old man has been jailed for 10 and a half years for raping his daughter when she was a child this is just coming to us now the judge in the case prays the dignity and courage of 22-year-old Karen Harkin from Bonkranagh who waived her anonymity to allow her father Michael Carter to be named he was found guilty last month of one count of rape and 25 sample counts of sexual assault when his daughter was aged between 9 and 12 the court heard Carter does not accept the jury's verdict Judge Karen O'Connor said it was a massive breach of trust and sentenced Carter to 11 years with the final six months suspended that's just news coming to us from the courts there okay thank you very much for all of you taking part in the show today who listened to the show watched the show texting whether you did or not however you did it's just great to have you all on board I want to thank Caroline and Neem for their hard work on the program as always John Breslin's coming up around the Northwest very very shortly but we're going to take a break for the news for me Greg and the team have a fantastic Tuesday talk to you on what's going to be a wet Wednesday by the way


All right, so we're ready for our last presentation of the afternoon. I'm pleased to have Jennifer Grabner. And for those of you not from right around the Columbia area, this is a presentation about a project here in Boone County, which is the county we're in. And so Jennifer's going to talk to us about a learning garden that she helped get going there. So Jennifer. Thanks very much for coming. Like he said, we're down in Ashland. About five years ago, a friend and I, Leslie Moillon, as we got to be friends, realized we had some shared interests and passions and decided to start a school gardening program, not really realizing back then what it was going to turn into today. But it's really grown phenomenally and turned into quite a program. If you have any questions throughout, please feel free to ask. Just a little bit of background on me. My training, my education is in forest ecology and wildlife biology, worked for the state for several years as a research botanist. Then when we had our second child, decided to stay home, got more into gardening, been a lifelong gardener, but got more into gardening with our kids. And that just kind of blossomed into the passion that I have for it now. Let's see here. So five years ago, Leslie Moillon and I started the program and we decided to start as an after-school club with our elementary school. She had a background in sustainable education and I had the background that I just listed for you. So we did a little bit of research upfront and it was very clear even five years ago, all the research showing multiple benefits for school gardening programs, particularly within a public school setting. And these are just some of them. Obviously it helps to increase the interest and improve attitudes towards eating fresh fruits and vegetables, improve the nutrition knowledge, helps improve attitudes toward the environment. A lot of the education, environmental education that kids get today is pretty negative in nature. School gardens have been shown to be a way to get the information to the kids, but in a much more positive way, in a way that shows them that they can actually make a difference and help not just learn about the problems but learn what they can do to kind of mitigate some of the problems. And then of course, when you're dealing with schools, the all-important test scores across the board seeing lots of improvement, especially in science and math scores with districts that have school gardening programs. So this is just our mission as it stands right now. Basically we want to provide space and resources for our teachers. We want to do this in a fun way, but in a real hands-on learning way. And we want to promote this not only within the school, but also throughout the whole community. And that's been a major focus of ours from the start is to do this as a partnership, not just with the school, but with the entire community. And to give you an idea, like you said, Ashland is just south of Columbia. So we're halfway in between Columbia and Jefferson City. Kind of a pretty typical bedroom community in a lot of ways. Most families have at least one person that works either in Columbia or Jeff City. But the school district in that area is very strong, very well-respected school district. So to kind of give you an idea of what we do now, we focus in two main ways. We have an after-school club that we still run, and we also do a lot of school day programming. And the focus for our school day programming is really kind of three things. We want to try to make direct connections with the classroom curriculum, with what the teachers are already teaching in the classroom as much as we can. And we do this in multiple ways. We also have learned, and the kids have taught this to us over the years, if we don't save time at each garden lesson for them to go around and taste the vegetables that are growing out there, then they actually get mad. And they've even said to me, Mrs. Grabner, can't we just eat some kale or something? So we learned right away, really, that that has to be part of each experience. The kids are really asking for that. And then it's also really just an attempt to get more physical activity into the school day.  The sports that the kids are involved with is all pretty structured kind of activity. So this is just a chance for them during the school day to get up and move and use their hands and feet in a different way. And our goal, typically, for each semester is to work with each teacher in our preschool through fifth grades, at least a couple times each semester. So what that means, we have 35 teachers from preschool up through fifth grade, about 700 kids. So we try to get all of them out there into the garden a couple of times in the fall and a couple of times in the spring. That can be quite a challenge a lot of the time, but for the last three years, we've done that successfully. Just to let you know, we're a 100% volunteer organization, have been all five years. We've got over 60 different people that contribute and volunteer their time each year. Last year, we logged over 2,000 hours of volunteer time, and that was not including minor Leslie's time. So quite a broad support for it. Giving ideas of some of the things we do with our school day programming, we can touch on anything in the garden. It's not just science or nutrition. We do a lot of social studies, literature, art, history type lessons. Some of the examples you see in the left corner there. With fourth grade, they do a big unit studying Lori Ingalls Wilder and her pieces of work in the spring. So we have planted staple crops, talked about the books like Farmer Boy and the Little House books, and we have samples of old farm tools that are out there, just kind of as decoration around the garden. So the kids come out, make connections with the books that they're reading in class, learn about why it was so important back then to plant those staple crops and how to harvest and store them, and just make a kind of a hands-on connection with that literature. The same for down here in the right corner, the Japanese garden. Third grade does a big social studies unit on Japan in the spring, and so we've for a couple years now learned about Japanese styles of gardening and getting into using small spaces wisely, but just kind of getting into the culture of that, and then we plant things like Tokyo turnips and some of the other Asian vegetables that grow quickly and grow really well in small spaces. Again, to tie into that, we do a lot of eco-art projects out there, so we'll make more connections with how to recycle and use some of that recycled material as art and decoration in the garden, and painted our rain barrels. We do a lot of stepping stones and sun catchers and things like that out there. And then another social studies unit that we touch on, we'll do a Three Sisters Garden each year, and that touches on the Native American tradition of planting corn and beans and squash. Then we can bring in a nutrition lesson with that and talk about how those foods work together to make complete food, complete healthy proteins. So just lots of ways to bring all kinds of GLEs if you're a teacher, grade level expectations or core standards, touch on multiple standards with each lesson, get a lot of integration and enhancing the classroom learning. More examples with math and science and nutrition, of course, a lot of these are just no-brainers when you're out there, but we've done quite a few math lessons ranging from learning how to do... It's kind of hard to compete with those guys. Learning how to do multiplication arrays. The kids have to learn to visualize, say, three times four, that math problem. They have to be able to create a visual array of three columns by four rows. Well, we do that in the garden all the time, right, when we plant. So we'll talk about square foot gardening. Then we lay out their arrays. They do some math. Decide on an array that they're going to plant in. And then all winter long, now the fourth graders are watching as their turnips and their lettuce and things are growing up in the shape of the array that they plant them in, hopefully. And sometimes we get a, you know, a handful of turnip seeds that somehow get dropped here and there, but there's a lot of randomness when you're gardening with kids. Other math lessons that we do, just simple measuring, you know, in second and third grade, they're learning how to measure in different units. So we take tape measures and rulers and yard sticks and things, and they go around and just measure stuff in the garden. Also in fourth and fifth grade, they're working on how to calculate perimeter and area, things like that. So the raised beds that we have out there are all geometric shapes, triangles and squares and rectangles.  Again, just a way for the teacher to teach what she's already teaching, but to do it in a different setting, a more fun setting, and just something that the kids are more likely to remember when they're doing it. We do a lot of water cycle lessons with fifth grade. They do a big weather unit in the winter and spring. So that's what the kids have in their picture there. We love to dig and compost with every grade, so we always get out there from kindergarten on up and explore the compost, learn what's going on as things decompose and just ooh and ah over all the bugs and cool stuff that we find in there. Really, I think we could just have piles of compost and everybody would be just as happy. So, just some examples of lessons that we do. With the After School Club, it's for third, fourth and fifth graders. It's really a popular club. It has become too popular for us to handle right now, which is a good problem to have. We had over 50 kids apply for our Fall Club. We were only planning to take 15. We decided to up that to 20, but we still have 30 kiddos and these are all kids that have not been in the program so out of the 300 kids in that building, it was quite a strong response. So we're hoping to run two separate programs in the spring if we can get enough volunteer leaders to do that. With the After School Club, of course, we want to focus on just teaching basic gardening, how to plant, how to water, fertilizing, weeding, all that stuff. Then we do a lot of cooking and nutrition with the After School kids. They love to be able to get into the school kitchen and work. That's a huge treat for them. We're lucky in Ashland because we still have full service kitchens. They've actually cooked their food still there and the staff has been more than accommodating for us so we're able to use both the primary and elementary school kitchens do a lot of cooking with the After School kids. Then of course we want to get a lot of physical activity in there. When we first started out, I guess it was the first semester with the After School Club. Part of the time we'll have the kids journal about what they've been doing or what they're working on in the club. The kids made it pretty clear that they were not really interested in journaling. They've been journaling all day long. They wanted to move, they wanted to eat, they wanted to move, they wanted to really just be up and moving. We realized that that part of it that we thought would be so cool, a couple of kids got into it, a couple of them really were just done with that part of the academic side of school for the day. So that was a good lesson. Then we do a lot of eco art projects. The kids they love to do, you can see the ceiling fan blades over there, our flowers and so we get a lot of donated ceiling fans now and ours need to be replaced now. The paints worn off and the blades are falling off but so we just try to do a lot of that kind and make it a fun space as you walk in. It doesn't look like an adult's garden. It looks like a kid's garden, one that's welcoming and lots of room to run around in there for them. So this just kind of illustrates where our volunteers come from which is everywhere. It really is one of those projects that pulls in people from just about every walk of life you can imagine. The thing that they share is that they care of course about the kids to have that connection with their food, connection with the land and they want the schools to do as good of a job as they can and they see that this is helping. So we really have a tremendous group of volunteers and it just keeps getting bigger all the time. The same throughout the community we've got a huge list of groups and agencies that have supported us for the last five years really this kind of is everybody that's in the Ashland area that is on that list in some way or another. So I kind of just was trying to think about reasons that the program has been so successful and been so well received and this is what I came up with. We've from the start knew that we wanted to focus on quality programming, offering a quality experience for the kids and for the teachers and not just quantity. We didn't want to just get two lessons with every classroom teacher every semester and not care about the quality of it. If we couldn't do a good job at it then we weren't going to do it and that's been important. Another thing is that the school from the very beginning has been very generous, very supportive the Ashland school district is lucky in that they have a lot of land that they own so space has never been for us. I know of other districts around the country and around the region where the administration is reluctant to let a group of parents try something like this for liability issues or whatever. We've never run into any of that they've just been completely supportive but we've never asked them for anything we've never asked them for money we've never required the teachers to do anything they didn't want to do so I think we have to give and take. We haven't presented it as you guys need to do this we just presented it as if you want to do this here we'll help you make it happen and I think that's been important. We've always had the long term in mind we knew that we wanted to keep this going and hopefully get this to be integrated into the school's curriculum so that after we're gone other people can just easily take it on the steering committee which Bill was a part of and then we last year we incorporated as a non-profit so we now have a board of directors that kind of sets our long range visioning make sure we stay on our mission and vision and like I listed before we've had a strong active base of community supporters and partners and that's been key and just constantly networking things like this to get the word out there let people know that not only do we need help and volunteers but we're also available as a resource for programs and schools that are interested in starting up a similar thing. We recently have applied for a Missouri foundation for health grant and have been notified actually that we're being recommended to their board for full funding which if their board approves that in the middle of November then that's going to ramp us up to a whole new level. That's going to mean one of the main things we proposed for that grant was to develop a community partnership a healthy community partnership to bring in all the folks that have supported the learning garden over the years and to bring in even more community groups and kind of work towards getting healthy living initiatives throughout Southern Boone County so we're going to be working with the City of Ashland to get more sidewalks and parks and bike paths in the community working with the school district to improve their wellness policy trying to get a farm to school program going down there walking school bus program down there all kinds of initiatives that we hope to get going with that partnership the grant will also allow us to expand and work with kids in the middle and high school levels not just the younger grades which we're very excited about we've got teachers that are already itching ready to put beds in over at the high school and it will also allow us to do a lot of outreach out into other communities and areas around the region like I said so keep your fingers crossed hopefully that will go through and this again this is the long list of all the folks that we've already made contacts with who are interested in being part of this partnership to make the things on the right actually happen down in our community and these things on the right are things that we think will be able to do but given the the climate in the community and the state just the interest the high level of interest of all these partners I really think we've got an excellent shot of being able to do all of these things on the right and more it's just it's a really good time for our community to work towards this in fact I made another connection today with somebody who was like yeah let's get a rec center built down there so I think we're going to be able to do some cool stuff so just kind of summarizing what can a school garden do and what is it doing for us it's enriching our public education it's providing a space for teachers to have an outdoor classroom space and to extend their classroom learning in a way that they weren't able to before we're getting our kids excited and interested in eating fresh fruits and vegetables and definitely in a way that most these kids didn't know what charred was or kale or had never eaten a sweet potato or anything like that and so now we have kids that are a lot more educated about where the food comes from or where it could come from and just more interested in eating healthy and it also really can be a way to unite a community and we've seen that without a doubt you know people come together in a garden and around kids and it's just a good combination so I think that's all I've got I don't know if I'm on time there but no we did not have SARE funding thank you she asked if we had SARE funding for this project and we did not I think the way that I got put in this category I'm a former SARE recipient myself we ran a winter vegetable farm for a few years and so I guess somebody got a hold of me through that and said hey you want to give a talk but yeah we are actually thinking of going for the SARE educational funding next year because we want to put in an outdoor kind of an outdoor classroom space where we're going to have an outdoor kitchen and space to be out of the wind and rain she said she didn't see on the list MU I guess you're talking about MU Extension Cooperative Extension and they were on there MU Extension we've worked with them at least they should have been maybe I left them off we don't have a 4-H club that's part of it right now we're not technically partnered with them hopefully in the future I know we've got a couple of active 4-H groups in our region we haven't worked with them directly but we will because I know they've got great curriculum materials and things like that it is definitely and with Extension we've received money through Extension's healthy lifestyle initiative they've been supportive that way Vera Massey and Cohen and folks like that work quite a bit with them yes sir doing the raised devs and mending the soil and for something that's not there already working up how did you get things started and did you have to worry about establishing a garden yeah the question he said in his community with the poor soil it's hard to get things started get the upfront funds I guess for raised beds with good soil in them in hindsight we maybe would have done a little more upfront research and got money ahead Leslie and I didn't do that we just said hey let's do a garden and so we were literally working in a mud pit for the first year and we just we got the local hardware store to donate some scrap lumber and we literally slapped together raised beds with the kids and just started piling compost we would get compost from here at Columbia they're the city composting program 12 bucks to pick upload and you get a compost that's plantable it's got a great texture we would just mix that with the soil and with some other compost just over the years kind of built it up like that but we used our own funds out of pocket for some of that we received a couple of small grants through the I think it's National Gardening Association they have a kids gardening program with Home Depot they've got a school garden grant program we received a couple of $500 scholarships from them and that goes a long way most of the other stuff donated from the community really supplies like that has not been an issue for us to get donated either from businesses or individuals we say hey we need some shovels or we need some dirt or can you use your tractor for half a day and help us and we've got enough people around the area that are more than willing to help out with that sorry how many schools do you have gardens how many schools we just have one garden the Ashland Southern Boon is just one school district they have four buildings and the current garden site is right next to two of those buildings the primary and elementary the lower grades we're getting ready to put more beds in over by the middle and high school which are on the other end of town but we're just dealing with one school district does that answer your question yeah Joan mentioned that the Whole Foods Foundation has a school garden grant and they actually have an open call right now for school garden programs and there are actually several smaller grants available you spend 10 or 15 minutes online and you'll bring up a whole list of grant funding opportunities usually they're within the $500 to $5,000 range some of them are specific for starting up a school garden some of them are specific for maintaining a program that's already existing but if you check out that kidsgardening.org website you'll get a lot of resources from that one page I'm sorry American Community Gardening Association I think it's through the National Gardening Association NGA, yep but if you just Google Kids Gardening it should come up and be one of the top four or five lists that will come up there


Recording is starting. Welcome. This is the 14th of September at 2022 Git Cash Maintenance Project. So Hrushakash, I have merged the changes into the Git Plant plugin and hope to release it within the next 24 hours. So congratulations. I'm not as confident on the changes in the Git plugin because I want to do some more testing. I want to be sure that we get the help in etc. So there are more things to be done there but I wanted to get the Git client plugin out there because that way we've got a stable base for it and I've got a way to deliver jgit5.15.1. So thank you very much and we'll continue the work with the Git client or with the Git plugin in the future. So thank you very much. So that's some good news because the code has been merged. I had it out regarding the Git plugin. Now how are we going to test it? Are you going to run it on your machine to check? Is it executing as expected or? Yes. I had it out. Okay. So before I'll do further testing, there are some things that I've got to be sure. For instance, we didn't get the online help in yet and I'd like to have online help available before we merge. We've got to be sure we get documentation in and if you're available to help with documentation, great. But I think your first priority has to be update your project page on Jenkins.io and if you're not feeling well, that may be all you do is update that project page so that you can get it it completed to satisfy the requirements of Google Summer of Code. Okay. So now in terms of I'm hoping that you're interested in continuing, but you certainly aren't required to continue to work with me on it. But one way or the other, what you've done is going to be merged and we will arrive at shipping it. I'm not sure when yet because I've got some travel that I have to do later this month and preparing for it that makes it difficult for me to say when I'm going to do anything else. But I'm looking forward to it merged and shipped and delivered and touted. Oh, we can keep working on this thing. If you put any comment on that pull request as well, I would see an update and do any changes required from my side as well. So great. Thank you. Thanks very much. Now, I assume that school is starting or has started? Actually, we had college the entire summer, like for a summer is yeah. Okay, so you were already in school. This is no different. Yeah, yeah. So kind of used to it. But I can, yeah, you know, I keep contributing. That is what from my side, you know, try and finish it and deliver it as expected without any issues in a very safe state. Excellent. That's wonderful. Thanks very, very much. Oh, and this I updated the Git client API, you know, to return a Boolean and that I have updated exchanges in the Git plugin as well. So now I know if the Git maintenance is being executed or not before I was insured. But now in the plugin, we can confirm that the maintenance has been executed or not. Also, the cash size, now I'm displaying it only in terms of MB, like as we have discussed. Okay, so that has become easier to sort as well. Okay. Now, I couldn't, I thought I'll work on, you know, skipping the caches for repositories less than 100 kb, something like that. But then I, you know, because of this thing, I couldn't work on it. Right. No, no problem. I'll try and complete it by this weekend. That's not an issue. Also, there are, I've updated the help files, like added the text from my side, but it isn't still working in the UI. Two, three maintenance tasks help file have updated. So that also I'll finish and push it by this weekend so that, you know, it would be completed.  Wonderful. Prushakash, thank you very much. Congratulations on your accomplishment and thank you. I look forward to those last little bits and we'll keep working it. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you very much. So in terms of updating the project page, are you comfortable with the kinds of things you're going to insert there so that you've got a good, so that it's clear to the Google Summer of Code people just how, what great work you've done, et cetera. You're comfortable, what you'll embed there, et cetera. I was thinking of adding, so basically first there's a project abstract, what is a project you're going to talk about. And then I was thinking about, you know, the deliverables, what exactly was required by me. And then one architecture diagram. And then what I've done in the first phase. And then it's video, the YouTube video. And then the second phase, what I've worked on.  That's what I was thinking. I like that, that link to the, link to the poll requests. And now, now that we've got, if we're lucky, so, and this is me saying if we're lucky, but if things work out the way I hope, you may be able to link to the Git Client plugins release note, or the changelog for 3.12.0, because it now lists the automatic Git Cash Maintenance API or it will when it's released. I can see it as a pre-release. And when I release it, and if we finish early today, I may be able to release it immediately after this meeting. Okay. So I can attach that as, but where do I find the link? It would be in the read me or something. Yeah. So here, I'll help it if I'll just paste it to you and show you what, how it will look. Okay. So it would be like this and two good. All right. Yeah. So I'm going to paste it into this, into the zoom meeting chat channel. That is the previous is the, let's see, is the changelog for the previous release. So it's just an example. And then this will be the link for the new release after it has released. So it's broken link right now. So don't be dismayed when this second thing is not resolvable right now, because that I can, or even I don't see it. What I see is a pre-release of that in my, in the queue showing the correct things. So it will be at that location once it is released. This thing would happen on its own? Or do you have? No, no, I know. It should happen on its own. That's a very good question, actually, because in the Jenkins project uses continuous delivery for many plugins. However, I am behind schedule and the get client plugin doesn't use continuous delivery yet. So in a perfect world, the merge of your changes would have automatically run the release process and automatically published everything. And for a number of plugins, for several other plugins I maintain, that's exactly what happens. But the get client plugin, I'm still hesitant about it, right? Because it's got a lot of users. And if I make a mistake, it hurts a lot of people. So now if I go and download the Jenkins long-term software, and then if I download the get client plugin, my code will be in it, right? Once you release it. Right. Once it's released, absolutely. Then, so for instance, 24 hours from now, you should be able to, when you start Jenkins, you'll see a get client plugin version 3.12.0 that will include your code and jget 5.13.1. Yes. Okay. Yeah. That's something to be proud about. It is. Well done. Yeah. So are there any other topics that you wanted to be sure we discussed today? I think that's a mark. There's nothing else from my side. The final thing is that I'll put a sender message in the GitHub channel. Okay. Good. And have you responded? I think, actually, I think I know the answer. I believe I saw that you had responded to the Doodle poll trying to find a time for the presentations. Yeah. Yeah. I have responded. Yeah. Very good. All right. Excellent. Well then, Ruchakesh, thanks very much. Hope you're feeling better soon. And congratulations on a great project. Thank you. Thank you so much, Man. It was very nice working with you. Real pleasure with you as well. Bye for now.


We did it and we'll show you how we did it right now What is up welcome back if you like to do a little bit of making so do we and we have a new video each week This week. We don't have a project because we are busy Securing some workshop space Come on. Let's take it to work Space we have totally outgrown our home. We have Hemingar make it business all over our home.  So we only the bedrooms are safe Everywhere else is business So we finally got a space. We're super excited This space is perfect for what we want to do and we'd love to take you guys on a tour of what we're thinking And then we'll keep you updated as we build this space out and make it our own room one This is our showroom We think we're going to build this front room by the front door out as our showroom We do not currently have a retail space So I think this will be perfect to showcase some of the finished products folks who come pick up finished products here right now they come to our home and I hang them on a porch post and Sometimes they take the wrong sign they did the other day. She took the wrong side I was like, well, you can have that side, but yours is a nice box on the grounds And we think we can build this wall out. We'll put our logo up here. We'll have a counter space here I'm not sure what else it's gonna look like, but I do know we'll put all of the things that we build do or make out here Yes, yes, and I know that I'm going to replace this French door with a barn door I think that will be perfect for this aesthetic That's that that suits in here Room number two The finishing room This is going to be right off that showroom And so that's why we want this barn door here to close off the space because I think this is going to be a messy working area Currently we have one table the size of the pool table And so here we think we're gonna have finishing tables all around the outside so that we can paint We can glue we can assemble we can recognize them Yes, we have a bow station I could bring my Rolling ribbon rack in here and be able to have all of our our son and daughter Insist that we have an island in the center, which will be our congregation space where we can all hang out Let's see what else we have boom at number three the kitchen. Well, it's not a kitchen yet Yes, I envision this will be our kitchen space if we're gonna live here all day every day We're gonna need some sort of Like a munch area My snacks my coffee My afternoon snacks We're gonna put a refrigerator in here This is what I envision right now a refrigerator some cabinets and countertops Microwave toaster oven coffee station Oh coffee station. I don't drink coffee, but everybody else does a barista I'm writing a barista and then of course a little table and chairs But when you don't want to stand at the island when you don't want to hang out with everybody else Let's see what else we have room number four our office Office space so this will be Garrett's editing room where he edits all of our videos and I told him I was like, well, where will my office be? He's like in here with me. I didn't do all this so that we can work in separate offices Different room all day that defeats the entire purpose. I'm working together. Yes So he's always said so he will have his desk and his monitors and I will have my desk I'll conduct business. He'll do the editing. I'm gonna need some big monitors some big monitors I'm gonna need to see every freckle while I'm editing Well, I think we can do that for you. This will be enough room for both of our desks in here Let's go see the juicy stuff This is just a random door Eating to the best room in the whole building this room ever The toilet. No, it's the bathroom. What it's even like a hospital bathroom It's not the best room. This is the best room all the stuff is gonna go down Production facility we will have lasers along this wall four of them at least that's our plan We will have a place for Receiving wood today. We do it outside in our on our in our driveway We'll have a place where we can cut wood. I don't have to try to kneel on it and make my cuts And we'll have a place to store the wood so that it stays flat right now We have a big problem with the wood warping on us the MDF warps real easy Over in this corner, we'll be able to store finished product in this corner. We will have shipping and receiving We will be able to store more country sheet paint three guys So we'll have those in stock and in this corner.  We have two more come on six Tanner's office and Courtney's office production and shipping This will be his space and on the other side of this room will be Courtney's space where she will manage our social media and What else you do court? Marketing. Yes social media and marketing Defining our products things like that And our last room one more Which is the big room. This is the key to the whole operation room setting the filming studio The new studio So we have a great room at our house currently, but it is upstairs So you have to come in the front door or the back door and haul all the wood all the I mean, what else do we have? By 12 And then around the tiny corner and then once it's built sometimes it's hard to get it back down like we Had a really hard time getting the desk back down the stairs If you saw the gnome The holiday or the halloween gnomes kim broke them on the way down the stairs So the stairs are very treacherous So we're super excited for this space because we can come right in through that warehouse haul everything in here and have a filming room set up and ready to go Anytime we don't have to Well the previous filming room also has Geert's editing room and this desk in there So it is a duly used space. You couldn't actually get behind the camera You could just kind of lean your head behind it to turn it off and on So look at all this walk around space. We'll have we'll have space for our desk. We'll be able to set up We have a taller ceiling so I'll be able to balance more things I don't I don't know about that. Well, you won't have that angle. That room also has slanted ceilings You will be able to mount some lights and cameras on the ceiling here and also keep us more for space So that is our space We have lots more rooms so expect lots more things from us and with that We're about out of time So if you're not joining us for the patron african show, we will see you next week But we'll do it building and make it again now get out of here I think you should do it