Live from Las Vegas, it's theCUBE. Covering Edge 2016, brought to you by IBM. Now, here are your hosts, Dave Vellante and Stu Miniman. Welcome back to IBM Edge, everybody, hashtag IBM Edge. This is theCUBE, the worldwide leader in live tech coverage. Jacqueline Woods is here. She's the global vice president and CMO of the IBM Global Financing Division. Jacqueline, good to see you again. Good to see you. Thank you. So, another edge, so let's talk about financing. Another edge. How to leverage financing for growth, right? It's critical, I mean, money is relatively cheap, IBM throws off a lot of cash, and you use that in ways to help customers grow, right? We do. What we find is that a number of customers are, for example, asking for deferred payments, or they're really looking for longer payment terms. So we do have a number of offers out there today, 12 months, same as cash. We have a number of 90-day deferral programs that are out there as well. And what I like to say about financing is an enabler, it's the how to get something done. What we're finding is that customers often don't have enough budget for their projects, particularly if you're thinking about analytics. They're also looking for higher returns. And over time, if you finance, you're going to find that your internal reader returns are going to be better off if you use financing. So, let's talk about this. You said something off camera, which struck me. You said, money's not free. Money's not free. But then you said, we got a lot of zero percent fine.  What's the state of sort of money and the money supply these days? It's pretty good, right, still. It's, interest rates are still fairly low. So now is still a very good time to use financing to leverage it, to procure technology. And I think that's the most important takeaway. That you can, you know, why spend your own cash when you can leverage someone else's cash for growth.  Right. Right, because they got a bunch of cash and they want to put it to use.  But most CFOs, when you hit them with the CapEx, you know, a request, they go, can't we wait? Can we do that? Can we wait? That's when you come in, right? Can we have longer payment terms? I mean, specifically, if you think about all clients today, they are asking for longer terms.  But with our deferred payment plans, we're able to give those types of terms that CFOs are actually requesting. Okay, so take us through sort of an example or a couple of examples. So you mentioned analytics. Analytics is somewhat risky because people, it's unknown to a lot of people. It's unknown. Particularly the CFO, I'm sure he or she is afraid to dive in too much. That's correct. They run a business case, they look at their cash flows, look at the IRRs, they probably put a higher hurdle rate on it, because it's riskier. Exactly. How can you help? I think it's in a couple of ways. First of all, it's not just financing the software, it's also financing services. So we do terms around services as well as our software products. The second thing that I would also note is that we also do what's called project financing. Where we're looking at, when do you expect to get a return on the investment that you're making? And so we have programs that allow you to align your payment structure to your expected returns. Now that's key because obviously you both know that with analytics projects, they often, one, take a long time. And two, what you also find that, you're not going to be seeing necessarily your returns on those immediately. So if you can align your payments with your expected returns, it's very beneficial to you, particularly as it relates to you reporting back to your boards. You know, this is the project that we implemented. Here are returns. You then begin to start using insights. And you know the importance of insights. Insights help you drive more growth. So a couple of things there. So one is you finance services. We do. So you're financing the IT labor component of a project. That's correct. It's huge, right? Because that's often times the biggest expense. The other, I have a question for you. I heard Rosamilia this morning, Tom Rosamilia, Senior Vice President of the Systems and Storage Division, this big conference topic. He talked about plenty of fish. And he played a video and the guy from plenty of fish said, our ROI was two months. And I said, oh, all ROI should be like that. But that's not the case, right? What are you seeing for sort of break-evens and timeframes to get positive cash flow these days? In tech, it used to be 18 months, 24 months. But CFOs want shorter timeframes. CFOs want shorter timeframes, yes. But the pressure of that shorter timeframe has meant they can't do strategic projects. So are you seeing your activity more involved in transformational and strategic projects that maybe have a longer break-even? We still see a lot of strategic and transformational projects. Those are really core. But what we also see are people taking and breaking up their projects into digestible chunks. So people eating a happy meal instead of a Bronisaurus burger. I mean, you know, really understanding what can I consume today right now? I need to show early success so that I can basically grow these projects inside of my organization. And I think that's the number one requirement for everyone today. Can you show early success, which is a proof point so that you can then begin to leverage that early success to then build the case for you to do further projects inside your organizations? And I think what we found out over time, as you know, is when you've had long, lengthy projects with a very long rate of ROI is so far out that by the time it comes, the person who might have even started the project has moved on to another role inside the organization. So having people understand when they're going to basically start seeing returns on their investments, it needs to be sooner as compared to later. And is there an opportunity to help them accelerate that transformation? So Jacqueline, I'm curious about the impact of cloud, because IBM, of course, has SoftLayer. You have customers that are buying things within OPEX, and then you've got infrastructure where you've got various financial tools. How do you bring those together, kind of the OPEX world and the OPEX world and work on transformation? Well, we actually do both, because even with your SoftLayer and other what I'm going to call SaaS services, you still have to pay annual in advance. And so we will also finance that stream of payments as well. And generally it's at a discounted rate too. So you're still often better off using financing even if you're buying software as a service. One of the concerns some people have is they don't want to scare their CFO and say, well, I'm buying something as a service, I don't want to be surprised as to, I burst it up and all of a sudden, oh wait, I hadn't budgets for that. Do you see that some? How do you give the financial side confidence that they know what they're getting when they're getting it? We see some of that, but what we also do is we will also, I mean, we have programs where we can look at what happens if you're going to be over, right? So there's not the, I don't know what's going on. It's working closely with the client to see how do we best make sure that their cash flows are fairly consistent. And I think that's what most of our clients are actually looking for. What's the scope of your financing services? What's the requirement that has to be all blue? Can you talk about that a little bit? I would say no. Particularly if you're financing through a partner. We do do financing through our partners. We also finance our partner's services and solutions as well. So that would mean by its very nature that it doesn't have to be a completely blue solution. And so we're looking at enabling our business partners just as much as we look at enabling our own client side as well. So we work extensively with business partners to ensure that they can offer these same terms and conditions to their clients that we offer direct to our clients as well. And several questions then. And from the standpoint of size of companies, is this only for large companies? No. I would say it's for, we do small, medium, large, extra large, the full gamut, the full gamut.  There's that stat, I think it was a Gartner stat, but out that CMOs are going to spend more than CIOs over the next 10 years and analytics. If that's true, but it's a good stat, it's fun. It's a fun statistic. And it's true that CMOs are getting much more involved in technology projects, right? Yes, I would say that's true. And it's probably also true that most CMOs really aren't qualified to run technology projects. So they need to bring the CIO in. So you have to play, presumably sort of broker, to bring these different constituencies together. Do you play that role? I would say it a little bit differently. When I look at the C... My words. When I look at the C-suite today, the C-suite is really an amalgamation of different people who have to come together to make decisions on behalf of their company. And those decisions are not monolithic decisions anymore. They're not the decision of solely the CIO or solely the CMO or solely the CFO. It really is a group of people and a group of decision makers, which I think is very different from years past. When I think about the CFO, and one of the reasons why we work so closely with CFOs is their role today is more of a business value architect. That's how I like to describe them. They really are tasked with helping to drive growth. They're tasked with balancing the priorities of the organization. And it's not the same kind of general accounting path that they have traditionally taken. Their roles have changed inordinately. And then there was also an article in CFO.com last week where they were reporting that about 40 to 70% of CIOs actually report to CFOs. So not only are they intricate to the decision making process, often in many companies they have responsibility for the bottom line of that organization. So when you talk about transformation, getting a company from point A to point B, it really is the CFO who is not just sitting on the sidelines. That person is actively engaged into these decisions. And second only to the CFO, I mean, sorry, second only to the CEO is the CFO in terms of approving, deciding. Well, the CFO has kind of gotten a bad rap over the years as you know, the term bean counter, right? I think that's true. But the CFO has transformed, right? Don't you think? I mean the CFO role, CFOs are business people, they want to drive growth. That's 100% true. And so the CIO reporting to the CFO is not a bad thing. That's correct. It maybe was in 2002, right? But as we've come out of this, you know, into this new tech renaissance, it's actually quite a positive. The entire C-suite has evolved into a growth scale. You know, we're seeing that today, aren't we? With cloud. We're seeing that with cloud, with analytics, with digitization, even with marketing. When you think about how marketing has transformed, marketing is based on technology today. It is not based on, you know, kind of this mystical thing that happens and how do we create, you know, generate demand. It is very specific. It is very technical. It relies heavily on technology in order to execute demand generation activities. So all of those roles I see have changed over time. And I will tell you that my best relationship in my own organization is with the CFO. I consider him to be a business partner. Anything that I do, I talked to him about it before, you know, kind of here's what we're thinking about. And so the partnership between these C-level executives is critical. And so, and it can only get better over time, but as far as CFOs understanding the need for growth, I think it's their first priority. Well, you're a CMO, at least part of your role as CMO, and you have to run more technology-oriented projects. How do you do it? I mean, you mentioned you have a tight relationship with the CFO. Where do you get your technology prowess? Do you possess that? Do you work closely with your CIO groups? Do you outsource it? You know, right? IT oftentimes is too slow for CMOs. How do you manage all that? I think I do all of the above. I've been in technology for over 20 years. And so in fact, in my last role, I had technologists reporting to me as part of my job. I had distinguished engineers, as well as solutionists reporting to me. So for me, it's always been part of something that I have leaned into specifically. I think you also have to have a strong relationship with the technology people in your organization so they can understand what your personal goals are, particularly as it relates to anything around analytics and how do you drive greater velocity around analytics in your organization to use those insights to be better informed, to drive real-time decisions that are going to help drive real-time growth. So let's get beyond the sort of bromide of... I want to get to success factors. For CMO, running technology projects, let's get beyond that you got to understand the business problem. We all know that. You got to have executive sponsorship and collaboration, all those things that we understand and know well. What I want to get to is some of the other sort of not so well understood and maybe not so historical modes of operation. You mentioned before, breaking things into smaller chunks, working very closely with the CFO, using financing as a lever for growth. What are some of the other tricks that you would advise CMO colleagues? I think the biggest thing for me, and this is going to sound corny and it really isn't corny, the biggest thing for success for any of these projects is the relationship that you built inside the organization. Because it's those relationships that you have to lean into to be able to get things done. So I think it's the most misunderstood component of trying to have success with any of these projects because saying that everyone is going to be on board, everyone can say that. Making sure that everyone is on board fills value in what you're doing also has a vested interest in senior success. Those things can't be valued in terms of how quantified, but those things are for sure the things that are going to make you either successful or not. So as people, it's shared vision. It's shared vision. It's incentives. Now it's getting really tricky because you're crossing lines, right? You don't necessarily have all the knobs to turn. So how do you? You don't have all the knobs to turn. So it's just hard work and sleepless nights? No, it's a lot of, also it's influence, right? So how have you built influence inside your organization and outside of your organization? Because in today's world, most people don't have this kind of hierarchical pyramid line role anymore. Those roles don't exist. What exists is a matrix and within the matrix, you have to figure out how to work within the matrix to ensure your success. And I think that's not an IBM statement. I think that's all companies. So street cred? Yeah. It's adding value to your colleagues. Right. You know, in different ways. In different ways. Not necessarily expecting anything in return. Not expecting anything in return. At least not this year. Building up equity. Hey. Yeah, you need to build up some equity so then you can go and cash in your favors later. That's great. All right, Jacqueline. We'll give you the last word on edge. I know it's early in the conference, but anything you're excited about that you've seen so far or things you're hoping to learn? I think as always, it's a great and exciting conference. We're leaning into developers, making sure that we are really building our developer network here. And we're just really excited to be here. So make sure, you know, go IBM Global Financing and we're here to help you. Love the topic. Always love the topic of money. Thanks very much Jacqueline for coming to the queue. It was great to see you again. Thank you. Nice seeing you both. All right, keep it right there. Everybody, Stu and I will be back with our next guest. This is theCUBE. We're live from IBM Edge in Vegas, right back. Thank you.


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Yeah, so coming into that game, they aren't just kind of like a storied franchise of being having a lot of success or whatever. And coming as a freshman, everybody in juniors kind of just knew that St. Norbert was like the epitome of D3 hockey. And so we had the chance to play them. And we just had the mindset of we can beat any team at that point coming in five and one and whatever. So we came in there with their heads kind of high and had good expectations of what we could do. But we also knew that they're a good team. Another chance for Benitez. Going through, there's the ricochet. Oh, and Williams had a good opportunity, good finish. Still staying in, Ryan Patrick kept it in. Still on the puck, he's hit hard and then penalty upcoming. Perfectly to Watts. Here's Ryan Patrick hit hard by Spethwick. This is up top. This is Aaron Murray for Patrick Patrick inside. And that's the goal for the freshman Chris Lee. Patrick got it at the point somehow. And there was a seam straight across the zone to me back door. And it was kind of just like a tap in. I didn't really get everything on it. But I mean, it was a good placement of a shot. So I just went in. Still alive for Thomas. Thomas goes it high. Kenny isn't sure where it is. And in doing so, St. Albert able to capitalize. Kurt Black on the opposite end. Capitalizes. What was it? Another side of the ice. Another good look here. This is Black looking for a second. And he gets it. Kind of did well. Oh, another chance. There's the third goal for St. Albert. Yeah. So I mean, they're a resilient team. They're a good team. They know that they can win. So yeah, coming in 90 seconds after and scoring that one one time goal, they grabbed the momentum.  We kept fighting. I felt like it was a back and forth game, the entire game. But that first period, yeah, they went up three to one. They scored a couple quick goals right after, but we never had our heads down or anything like that. We kept pushing. We knew that. I mean, we had been in that position earlier in the season a couple times, I think, where we go down a goal or something. We had a really good mindset and a tight group that we knew that we could come back even if it's a one or two goal deficit. We can do it. We proved it before. And that's what we did. They could try a counter. Benitez had it popped up. And it scores. How on earth did that happen? Just threw it on target. Awkward angle. It got the benefit of a Toran mistake at its 3-2. Stevenson need one goal a tie. Two to win. They're in the white. St. Norbert in the green. Here we go. Some exciting stuff. Stevenson have set up for the dramatics and they're known for doing so. Christian Ripley, Cedric Wein. No chance by Carl Leiden. He'll have another go. And there's the tire. Carl Leiden strikes again. And it's 3-3. In the Alberta Junior Hockey League, as here comes Christian Ripley. My goodness. It's 4-3. Just like that. A quick counter. And Stevenson fight themselves up by one. Yeah, so when it became 5-5 and 10 minutes left, I think we kind of, by that point, obviously, we were in the groove of the game. And we knew it was a fight from the start. And we just kind of, I think at that point, we really believed that we could win. I mean, I feel like there's a little bit of doubt at the beginning of the game just because there was story franchise. We knew that they were going to be good and everything like that. And it was 5-5 left in the third. And we had an incredible amount of push at the end to grab the lead when I scored at the end with coming from Benitez in the corner. It was kind of a surreal experience because I don't know how I got wide open in the middle. Benitez has a good look for Chris Lee. It was just me and the goalie and one little head fake. And it was, he was out of his crease, out of his net, completely out of position. It was, I actually was kind of weird. I almost missed the net completely. I had the complete open net and I had posted in on the far side. And I kind of scared myself. But I don't know, it went in and it was just a rush of emotion, a rush of excitement. And we went on from there and that was the game we were in goal. And then, yeah, Brian Kenny icing it for the rest of the game. We were holding strong. They had a really tough push and really strong push towards the end of the game to tie it. And we actually ended up just holding out and kind of buying into our systems and leaving it all out in the ice and sacrificing our bodies and everything like that. So we came out and pulled out the win.


We often find that many of the most intriguing enigmatic, and as yet unexplained ancient ruins found all over our world are regularly claimed as the legacy of more recent well-studied permitted ancestors. However, this constant attribution to lesser-developed ancestors studied and understood intimately through funded investigation is self-contradictory in nature. For the parallel study of said ages, and in turn early man's development, disproves their own claim of said individual's culpability, or indeed capabilities. It seems that, although only a specific tale of events is publicly permitted for grants, offering financial security to so-called professors and historians, all willing to toe the proverbial line, inadvertently expose themselves without any outside intervention. Due to the detailed well-established understandings possessed by modern archaeological study, we are, by default, also made intimately aware of the tools available to each of the claimed culprits, the knowledge levels in which they possessed, and the fact that many other factors regarding our not-so-distant ancestors disproves academia's own testimony when it comes to them as claimed builders. However, although, in our opinion, there is overwhelming evidence to suggest that many ancient ruins were instead re-inhabited by these claimed constructors. Utilizing these ancient sites, often fortresses, beneficial, often ingenious, and baffling constructions safely, virtually impenetrable designs, and thus solid foundations for the development of their own civilizations, not only allowed them to flourish, but also leaving behind a detailed array of archaeological finds used as the basis of academia's claim of these groups having built these sites, but also claiming such sites as their work in historical records, records which are always absent any explanation as to how this was achieved. There also exist sites on Earth that, instead of allowing funded individuals to use additional re-inhabitations as a basis for an argument for their origins, can instead, due to the sheer mass of these historical footprints, each stacked atop one another, can instead actually indicate the site's enormous age. The land feature generated as a result of this incredibly long-lived accommodation that we call TELS. TELS are artificial mounds formed from the accumulated refuse from generations of people. TELS are most commonly associated with the archaeology of the ancient Near East, but they are also found elsewhere, such as Central Asia, Eastern Europe, West Africa, and Greece. In the Near East, they are concentrated in less arid regions, including Upper Mesopotamia, the Southern Levant, Anatolia, and Iran, which had more continuous settlement. What can only be explained as man-made, artificially-generated sedimentary layers? One has to ask themselves, how long would a particular site have to have been inhabited for to create such enormous, incredibly deep layers of earthwork, merely generated by its inhabitants living in said area, clearly for an unimaginably long period of time? The herbal citadel, for example, locally called Kalat, is a TEL located within the historical city center of Erbil in the Kurdistan region of Iraq. The citadel appeared for the first time in historical sources in the Iblid tablets around 2300 BC, and although it has been confirmed as having been inhabited as far back as the Neolithic period, we have long argued due to their activities and capabilities that the Neolithic were a surviving remnant of the most recent lost civilization. If this is so, then it is highly likely that the citadel of Erbil is in fact far older than that of even the Neoliths, its incredible height, also indicative of an inconceivably long history of virtually continuous inhabitation. How old is the herbal citadel, or indeed the world's TELs in general? Is it an earthwork merely started by our Neolithic ancestors? Or is it possibly a relic spanning far before currently understood or indeed accepted timelines for man? They are undoubtedly highly compelling. Neolithic man is often talked of as if he were a very different being to that of the modern man. Throughout the modern era, a well-funded, close-knit, often aristocratic academia has portrayed Neolithic man as an illiterate figure, often leopard print toga-wearing, club-wielding, bearded nincompoop, a grubby forceful filthy beast who had barely managed to master the art of creating fire, let alone complex language or societal behaviors. This paradigm of us emerging for the first time from the last Ice Age, developing into the complex advanced civilization we find ourselves in means that Origins of Man is somewhat of a closed book. For to preserve this influential dominance within modern society, anything which contradicts this long-attested claim is simply thrown out, discarded as an anomaly, and any who pursue such avenues of inquiry a mere conspiracy theorist, this regardless of the evidence we so eagerly put forth in our defense. Countless still existing astonishing anomalies, unexplained, simply baffling feats of ancient engineering, so often covered here on our channel, either merely ignored or acclaimed as absent an explanation as to how the work of our well-studied more recent ancestors, people who were simply incapable of completing such mammoth tasks. Many of these ancient ruins, claimed as more recent achievements, we feel, possessed sufficient evidence to support far greater ages littering many said sites, clearly built using far more advanced precision technologies, and Neolithic sites are of no exception. We believe here on the channel that the size of many of these highly eroded prehistoric stone trilithons, and indeed stones contained within many enormous dolmens, are also left by this ancient group, dolmens made using similar, if not identical techniques throughout the world, from Scotland to Ireland to Japan, all of similar design and possessing inexplicable features, bored entrances, multi-ton megaliths. It is as if this group still possessed the knowledge of how to lift and work such stones, but had lost the technologies used to carve with precision. It is as if they were a surviving remnant of a once more capable or more precisely better equipped civilization. How did this ancient people, academically claimed as never having had any contact, build such similar structures? Or perhaps more importantly, and the feature which initially attracted us to Neolithic ruins, the size of their stonework, megaliths often incorporated into their structures, forming trilithons or entrance tunnels, with top slabs upon dolmens, sometimes up to 8 feet aloft, weighing well over 100 tons. Our discoveries at New Grange in Danor in Meath, Ireland, with a slab tunnel entrance, make so many Neolithic granges and barrows, regardless of their immense size, once precisely aligned them with solstices, yet they remain mostly buried and thus most conveniently concealed. Some argue that the most impressive Neolithic dwellings can be found dotting the Japanese landscape. However, we feel the most archaeological interesting of Neolithic sites dot the United Kingdom, France, and some areas of the US, yet particularly Scotland and Ireland. Sites which have fragments of ancient symbols left within, celestial alignments, and a similar pattern decoration, or possibly coded message, which crop up over and over, especially one found all over the world of a strange enigmatic spiral. And although usually found sparsely decorating Neolithic sites, barrows, and internal earthworks, its reoccurrence so regularly must indicate it as once having been significant and important to them in some way. Yet for some reason, gavernous is undoubtedly the most spectacular of them all.  Located in France, to have so many of these patterns clearly arranged in careful and concise manners by a people capable of aligning 100-plus tonne rocks with pinpoint accuracy, we feel should be perceived as a very deliberate and important undertaking, perhaps in an attempt to convey a message to a future people, a people far removed from themselves in terms of language, a fact they may have fully understood, having, as we believe, experienced global cataclysm within living memory. So encoded messages yet to be deciphered or even recognized as such, hidden within symbolism rather than writings. Are gavernous's spirals mere decoration? If so, why go to such great efforts?  Whoever created gavernous and for whatever purpose remains a mystery yet to be solved. This is a place very much still unexplained, yet very rarely shared academically. As such, it is a place we find highly compelling.


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Aaron, first of all you guys did the team picture and Aaron Boone wasn't in it, you had to go back out. Did you guys realize right away when you saw him running? Uh-oh, we didn't get him in there. We knew he wasn't out there. We just wanted to take a quick picture, but we always got to wait for Skip. He eventually made it out there and we got it done. What type of job has he done managing you guys through the adversity this season? He's just been that stable force for this whole team. You look at the end of the dugout and he's always there no matter if we're up big or if we're losing. He stays the same. When you have a manager like that that you can lean on and in good times and bad times, it's a recipe for success. How much did everyone exhale when Sean Carlos in hit the three-run shot there in the first inning? I wouldn't say exhale. We tried to keep the pressure on all game and I think we were just juiced up. We wanted to play yesterday but couldn't get it in and everybody was excited to come out here today and finish the job. No stranger to the Houston Astros. How much are you looking forward to getting there and getting the CS started? We're looking forward to it. They've got a great ball club over there, a great all-around team. It's definitely going to be a fun series. We played them quite a few times in the postseason and we're looking forward to getting back there. Verlander expected tomorrow. He's had an unbelievable year. What's the biggest challenge in facing a pitcher like that? He's one of the best in the play this game. He's a guy that can command all of his pitches, works off quadrants of the zone. We've just got to stay ready. Six to our plan and I think we'll have a good outcome. I'm extremely proud. This is a great group of guys that continue to show up every single night. No matter what the outcome is, no matter what, our backs are up against the wall over leading the series.  I'm proud of this team that makes you feel like the people go through. Every time you guys have asked me, we just rely on each other, pick each other up when we need to. It's a lot of gutsy performances throughout the year and there's just no quitting this team.


Good one moment. I didn't mean to go live on YouTube, sure it's all yours. Great, thank you so much Sean. Welcome everyone to the identity special interest group for February 22nd, 2024. Thanks for joining us today. I'm Shara Howland and I'm a co-moderator of this group with Tim Spring and Vip and Barthon and today we will go over our working group status updates and here a presentation from Daniela Barbosa titled 2024, the state of the ledger. So really looking forward to that. This is a Linux foundation call so we are following the antitrust policy. This is also a hyper ledger foundation call so we are following the hyper ledger code of conduct which are both written and linked here. Let's see and the call is of course being recorded. It's also being live streamed YouTube and we will post the recording on the meeting page later today right here and if anyone would like to put their name on the attendees list that would be wonderful. Let's see it looks like we have some new faces on the call today. Would anyone like to pop up mute and introduce themselves say as much or as little as you want about what you're working on and why you're joining us today and yeah we're so glad to have everyone here and would love to hear about what people are working on and interested in. Yes. Thank you Shara. My name is Dino de Lach from the Chief Information Officer at the United Nations Pension Fund and based in New York I've been following the not very frequently however the activities of the hyper ledger specific on digital identity here the pension fund we implemented a digital identity solution for proof of existence using hyper ledger indie and we are now extending the scope of that solution to include a digital identity for all the US staff members so we are piloting this extension. I got in touch with Thomas Sidei previously we met in London last year at a blockchain event so my presence here is to keep myself up to date with any advancement or any addition that are being made in this domain specifically by hyper ledger. Thank you. Great thank you so much for joining us Dino. Would anyone else like to introduce themselves? Yes Michael go ahead. Yes I'm Michael Olmack with the Small Business Administration here in Kansas and I've been interested in hyper ledger personally but I also work with tech entrepreneurs here and this is one of the topics I'd like to become more aware of so I'm here for information I'll use some. Great we're glad you're here thanks for joining us. Would anyone else like to introduce themselves? Hi this is Marvin Van Tuggen I've been part of the hyper ledger financial markets market subgroup for the past year now now starting to see what I can do to tie in at least from the financial markets what some of the other special interest groups are doing and always interested to find out what's going on within hyper ledger so I appreciate you guys holding these meetings. Absolutely thanks for joining us Marvin. Any other introductions anyone would like to make? Well we've got a great group today Sean how about I hand it over to you for the announcements you've added in. Absolutely thank you Sharra and just a couple of quick announcements in April internet identity workshop is happening. It is a twice a year gathering of the clans in the identity community folks who work on open ID connect who work on decentralized identity who work on tons of different aspects of this topic are going to be there in Mountain View California. I would love if in this meeting maybe in the next couple of sessions we could talk about what are the topics that the identity state wants to talk about at IW let's get a little organized and maybe plan some sessions and things we want to talk about there. Number two in a couple of weeks the Open Wallet Foundation will have their one-year anniversary Zoom. It's happening Thursday March 14th 2024 at 9 a.m. Pacific. It's going to be about an hour we're going to talk about what's happened in the last year of the Open Wallet Foundation and where we're going next. So that should be a lot of fun and the last two we have and this is relevant to this community a workshop happening zero knowledge proofs in ZK programming and blockchain application development and because I was moving fast I didn't actually put in the date I will incorporate the date into this into this wiki page shortly but it's going to be a great presentation zero knowledge proofs do come into play a lot in the work that's happening in the identity community and we're pretty excited with the two folks who are putting on this workshop and lastly a couple of weeks ago we had the identity and interop workshop you can find the recording the wiki all the links at the URL there but decentralized identity interoperability this workshop connected credo which was formerly known as agent framework JavaScript with Hyperledger Bezu Cardano checked Hyperledger non creds and OpenID Connect for VC the DSR team Alex and Renata put on the workshop along with Artem who is doing an incredible job in the chat answering questions and helping folks out so this is absolutely a great workshop that team was super proud of the work they put into it you should definitely check out both the recording and the resources on that wiki page thank you Shar thank you so much Sean any other announcements that anyone would like to make before we jump into things all right time for working group updates I want to make sure we leave plenty of time for Daniela's presentation so I will go through our updates fairly quickly but please stop me if you have any additional updates from working groups you're involved in and I will give a bit longer of a pause at the end to see who else wants to jump in and give updates so let's see in the indie contributors working group our indie annual report we received input from the community and was submitted newest release 1.13.0 was completed continuing discussions and updates hearing updates about the indie Bezu project this is a project of experimental research on using Bezu for being internal mechanisms of indie and this work is happening in a separate repository under the indie project and it's been great to hear updates and have interesting discussions on the call about it let's see in the areas working group call they are working on AIP 2.0 updates credential protocol reversions and their annual report as well let's see in the areas bifold user group they are putting forward a project proposal to the open wallet foundation there's a draft under review they're also working on dependency injection glacio with bcgov who has presented our call before is working on that in the areas cluttered in python user group lots of status updates related to let's see the new release candidates of 0.12.0 a non-creds rs and upgrading and an akapai deployment to a non-creds rs did p&afj interop load test load generator testing a non-creds in w3c format discussions as well for an akapai 1.0.0 release and a discussion of the hyperledger mentorship program and a call for mentors so lots going on there uh tim bloomfield sorry just really quick note on bifold so open wallet fund they were accepted in the open wallet foundation okay you can now now see them on discord there and i think they get a github repo they moved it out soon sounds great thank you for that update awesome let's see the areas cluttered in python maintainers meeting we're continuing to meet met last week as well but no no notes from that meeting just working through prs and figuring out what needs to be done to merge them in and then as well on hyperledger non-creds discussions about a non-creds in w3c format 0.2.0 release the 1.0.0 release as well and v2 of zero knowledge proof capabilities so super quick overview of the hyperledger working groups does anyone have anything to add on what i've covered so far all right moving on to the trust over ip foundation the all members meeting was yesterday they had a presentation from the the content authenticity initiative at adobe we actually had eric scouting who presented yesterday on on the all members meeting he presented on our call several months ago let's see as well in the communications committee i wasn't able to find more recent info from them but if anyone knows knows differently that they've been meeting more regularly feel free to jump in on the governance stack working group they've been working on the issuer requirements guide bunch of different work items there they're working on the the third generation to ip stack diagrams so if anyone else has additional info to add to that that would be great lots of task forces under the technology stack working group as well the technology architecture trust registry trust spanning protocol acdc and metaverse credential exchange protocols and didweb s task force i won't go into too much detail about all of those because they are all linked here if you want more information and let's see in the ecosystem foundry working group they are working on an ecosystem components and use cases document and discussing that alignment with the business model canvas and accompanying instruction book and let's see concepts and terminology as well met last week they're working on the the terminology engine v2 as well as the spec up coding project all right so that was again pretty quick through the to ip updates yes jump in the ip really quick the the to ip is reviewing its github um i'm sorry all the projects that are the repos that it has in github and archiving a bunch of them that that haven't been used uh just because their archive doesn't mean that you won't still have access to the resources and things out there but um the and they can unarchive at any time but they're they're going through a little process of of making that happen just so i throw that out there absolutely thanks for that update that's great all right and the decentralized identity foundation the didcom spec working group they met on the first monday of the month and they've been talking about a didcom branding reprise and didcom at the ietf and then the the users group is what meets on the second third and fourth mondays of the month after that initial spec working group meeting every month i wasn't able to find uh meeting notes from their their more recent meetings but if if anyone on this call knows what they have been up to and working on please jump in let's see the uh interoperability group as well wasn't able to find documentation on on what they've been doing that the iot special interest group seems to be meeting regularly and discussing and organizing for work items under that sig and as well the in the w3c standard community credentials group um had uh recent ccg traceability call and verifiable credentials for education task force calls does anyone on this call have any additional updates about any work items happening in the diff or w3c that they would like to share with us and if there are any other general working group updates or announcements anyone would like to give now would be a great time as well all right with that i will hand it over to you daniella for your presentation and it looks like you're on mute first time on zoom all right let me just share my screen i have a lot of slides um you know and when char asked me if i would be interested in coming to do a presentation at the at the special interest group i said absolutely um you know one of the things i actually do and i i know i'm not very often it am able to attend live um but this is one of the special interest groups that i attend um or i watch um on the recording because i think it is one of the best resources out there um across what's happening in the identity space so you know first i want to thank everyone who participates who contributes who does the hard work of going across all these organizations at the linux foundation and outside of the linux foundation uh to really you know bring together a very you know consistent and uh you know great summary of what's happening in the ecosystem so um you know vipin char tim and the rest of you you know thank you so much because i do think it really helps um the ecosystem um and one of the things you know very often people come to us right they want to understand what's happening in the identity space um and one of the first things i do is i send them over to the special interest group um and i asked them to take a look at the meeting notes um and uh all the great links so thank you for everything um so thank you for inviting me to come and speak um at the special interest group um what i'm going to do today is a combination of giving an overview about what the hyperledger foundation is and what we've been doing we just celebrated our eighth year anniversary we had a webinar last week really you know talking about what's happening in the ecosystem but eight years in the blockchain space and you know in the digital identity space as well sometimes feels like a a lifetime many many years and we know these these technologies um will take a long time to get adopted but we're seeing so so much great adoption across the the the board and what i want to do today is because the folks on the phone are obviously very close to the identity space it really spent some time talking about the rest of the foundation and how the identity projects and yourselves um fit in together um if uh you know and sometimes we spend a lot of time individually as you know as developers as business leaders kind of focused on the things that we are working on the customers that we have to support the end users that we have to support the technology innovation that we're trying to bring to market that it's hard to see um what else is happening around the community and the hyperledger foundation continues to grow so much in regards to number of projects number of communities that address that i thought hopefully it would be better you know to just give you an overview of that you know in 2021 when re-rebranded the hyperledger project that was this called and i'll talk a little bit about the history to the hyperledger foundation one of the things that we came up with it was you know a tag line a building better together which is essentially what open source is right is how do we collaborate how do we work together to build something that's better for the ecosystem for the industry and essentially for the users and how do we work together to accelerate that how do we work across standard organizations and open source code organizations and really the hyperledger foundation this goal is with our members and our community and all the open source projects is to do that um very importantly you know and some of you maybe you know don't know the the history of the hyperledger foundation and the linux foundation the linux foundation for the last 25 plus years has really been the home for the most important what i would say the most important open source projects obviously the linux kernel which is our name state but we have some of the largest open source projects for example the cloud native computing where kubernetes sits and we also have the most interesting you know from an industry perspective i also like to point out the academy software foundation right which is where the film industry is coming together to build open source code and and projects that then they can focus as film industry leaders in building the best film experience for all of us and you know i know many of you i'm sure love to watch films so the linux foundation is really a very large organization today we have close to 600 different open source projects that sit under that umbrella really anything that you touch today from a technology perspective if you take a look at the source code and see you know some of the licensing it is probably has linux foundation open source code in it as well from your car in the automotive grade linux to obviously you know infrastructure and certainly in the identity space you know the aim is to you know have a lot of the projects that we have here we are also you know a multi-party foundation so as i mentioned there's 600 different foundations at the linux foundation umbrella hyperledger foundation is one of the largest ones that we have that has you know the most members the most projects and the most active community as well but some of the other ones which you know i call the digital trust umbrella that you see here are organizations that many of you are quite aware of and once again at part of the sig you get updates on things like the diff or the trust over ip and open wallet as well and the goal is to you know make sure that we're collaborating across these projects and really once again you know building better together even you know across the linux foundation and we're happy to talk about that drilling in specifically on the hyperledger foundation what our structure is we have the foundation itself so the entity that is the hyperledger foundation that's it's under the linux foundation we have our member community those that fund the foundation that help us support and resource all the things that we do down to you know the code and you know the tooling that is needed for the contributors and the maintainers in order to be participating in those code projects to the special interest groups to the webinars and the meetups and this is funded by our member organizations so for those of you who are on the phone that are part of our member organizations we thank you for your contributions and your support of the foundation really without our members we couldn't do what we do and we are a global community people from all of work walks and all regions of the world support and contribute for example our meetup community we have over a hundred thousand meetup members so we know our new logo that we launched this summer is really about those three pillars the foundation the member organizations that help support this and our global community which many of you are part of or actually if you're on the call today you are already part of our global community so thank you for your contributions when i think about the hyperledger foundation and kind of as staff and just to let everybody know this is always blows people's mind we are a really small team we have about seven full-time people worldwide supporting the hyperledger foundation supporting all our projects supporting all our special interest groups supporting our members and supporting everything that we do in the market so it's about what the members and the individuals like you do that really help create what we produce at the foundation so first we are a developer community that we're very focused on the maintainers the contributors down at that level and making sure that they have the tools and the resources that they need to be successful we do a lot of education and training education at that hundred thousand foot level for example our introduction to blockchain courses that we started publishing in 2017 and continuously update have close to 300,000 people that have gone through that course I very often am out at events or conferences and people will come up to me and say hey I was introduced to blockchain thanks to hyperledgers you know intro to blockchain courses and we continue doing that we have some great courses already you know around self-sovereign identity for example on edX that you can take we have at ARIES developer courses and those continue to getting updated and rolled out as well and we do a lot of tutorials and a lot of sessions like this Sean on the introduction today talked a bit about the workshops that we do we fund we support those kind of trainings to get the developers and the business leaders in the ecosystem understanding blockchain and our digital identity projects here at the foundation and last but not least we make sure that there's a healthy commercial ecosystem you can have the best code and the best developers and the best tools for those developers to do what they need to do and be successful but you have to have a vendor ecosystem and a healthy commercial ecosystem to support these technologies in the market so these are really like the three pillars of what I say you know our staff is really focused on as well one thing that is important I think you know to just go back to is the governance structure of the foundation right how does the hyperledger foundation function so we have a governing board and the governing board is made up of our premier members as well as two general member representatives that get voted to the governing board and the governing board essentially is responsible for the operations the day-to-day operations of the foundation things like special intros groups and marketing committee but very importantly the technical oversight council or the talk is really the foundation for all technical decisions our our members our governing board do not overlap with what is done in the technical oversight committee around the technical communities so the projects themselves and the working groups and task forces as well and it's important to keep those two things separate and you know over the last eight years we've had charter changes and things that help a community like hyperledger which started as one project really expand out so feel free to read the full charter and I will make this presentation available once the this presentation is over there is no doubt that open source has essentially won the game when it comes to decentralized technologies and you know there really is not a lot of you know proprietary software in the space at that plumbing level right there certainly is a lot of proprietary software at the application level but open source essentially is essential by for decentralized technologies as we've seen over the last few years and the foundation in here in hyperledger you know what we believe is you know it's open source but it's also open development and open governance and the difference very much is you can have open source and you can you know put your open source and with a open source license on your github and you can have people you know basically take a look at it and use it but can the users and the individuals and the companies that want to use that code really have influence on the development and the governance of that so it's really important for us at the foundation that we believe and we are focused on you know open source with open development and open governance and very often we talk to organizations whether it's big banks or you know you know even like government agencies that really understand the difference and really appreciate what we do under the linux foundation and under the hyperledger foundation when it comes to open source and open governance as well from a hyperledger perspective I mentioned before we've launched seven years eight years ago we just are celebrating our eighth year anniversary we have you know multiple graduated projects and I'll talk a little bit about that we have a very active hyperledger labs ecosystem where innovation is happening and we continue to really grow from a global perspective in the the individuals participating in the individuals contributing and obviously in the global organizers organizations that are supporting our community as well and we're very diverse which sometimes makes it very hard because it's very noisy there's so much going on all the time around industry specific views or project views and you know it's important as a foundation to be able to support that at the umbrella level and really give spaces for communities like the identity special interest group to be able to kind of lead in the expertise lead in the things that they need as well so we're very grateful you know not just for the identity community but for the other ones that are also so you know since 2015 we have really been shaping you know the the market with frameworks and tools and a lot of the words that people use to describe what we do here in our foundation in our communities that were open that were global and that were trusted and this is really important in technologies that become critical to infrastructure right if you're going to use open source technologies or any sort of technologies you want to make sure that it's trusted something that you're going to build long-term or infrastructure for that it's something that you can rely on from a community perspective we continue to grow and be very active and these are just some code related numbers and we do track these year over year we just put these data points together for an eighth year anniversary I mentioned the labs before if you are interested in kind of seeing some of the newest projects that are happening or labs that are happening there's a lot of great resources for you to do that and there's a couple in the identity space as well including one of the recent one which is the open enterprise agent but the projects are a place the labs are a place for you know the the projects to actually come from so we have a couple of projects in our active project portfolio today that have come from the labs so if you have interesting code projects that you're working on that you want to you know build an enterprise developer community around encourage you to take a look at the labs and potentially look at contributing to our lab ecosystem as well we are global but we're also very local as well so the meetup community for example now has over a hundred thousand participants and and growing we've had over 1400 meetups in our lifetime the last eight years last year alone we had 70 meetups 70 virtual meetups and 12 in-person meetups and it's fantastic to see post-covid our in-person meetups picking up again and i hope that in 2024 not only will i get to see many of you in person that will do more of those in-person meetups as well and we continue to you know last year we had seven seven different languages that we're supporting from our global community and six different regional chapters i'll give you an example one of the the the growth that we see regionally we see in latin america we see it in in brazil for example with the brazilian regional meetup but our india regional meetup continues to grow they had a 20 percent increase from the previous year close to 18 000 i think over 18 000 participants now throughout all of india and it's a great developer ecosystem and i know we've actually been talking about getting the special interest group potentially to have a version uh that is a time from a time perspective friendly into the india region as well a couple other you know by the numbers you could take a look at these but like as i mentioned we continue to grow and continue to you know to support these communities which take a lot of resources in helping to support that as well and our projects and i'll talk a little bit about you know you might say well what happened to this project and where did this one go and the lifetime of hyperledger we've had 21 different projects and today we have seven graduated and six incubated projects and it's important to understand what that means because having that project lifecycle and this is something that we've curated and really spent a lot of time over the last you know two years i would say that's a technical oversight community committee and all the work that they've done in supporting that healthy enterprise grade project lifecycle because it's important once again when people pick up code whether they do it in labs or whether they do it in the graduated project that they understand that here at the hyperledger foundation that code has governance that has a project lifecycle that has the tools and resources needed for it to once again be that long term code project that you can support that you can bring into your applications that you can bring into your government applications and know that it's going to be long time standing as well so here is our project timeline from 2015 to 2023 and i can spend hours and hours kind of going through this and it's really important to understand that what we've done you know in the last eight years has really been what the enterprise and when i talk about the enterprise you know it's corporate companies but also government agencies for example and startups but what we've really have met is the enterprise need around blockchain and digital identity these are really important to understand because you know some projects might go away some projects you know get archived but overall it is what the enterprise needs right it is what the developer community brings to the market and what the developer ecosystem through collaboration brings once again and builds better together as well so starting obviously in the beginning of our project lifecycle when we were the hyperledger project it was about permission ledgers hyperledger fabric being the first dlt that came into the project and you know then by 2017 we had hyperledger indy addressing digital identity needs in the marketplace we had hyperledger burrow which is was our first ethereum virtual machine project and we had hyperledger quilt that was focused on interoperability very early on we knew was going to be networks of networks so it wasn't going to be one network to rule them all and even though maybe people were working in silos in these dlt platforms that they were going to have to address interoperability so very early on we realized that and as we continue to grow things like tooling so by 2021 and even in early 2020 really understanding the requirements for tooling in the enterprise right how do we get enterprises to quickly build these networks and deploy these solutions into the marketplace so things like firefly and bevel so it's really a project line timeline that meets the needs of the enterprise and today our projects once again and you'll see you know a lot of the logos are kind of you know if you go from here to here the kind of dropped off and it's important once again to have that project lifecycle to understand what the enterprise needs and very importantly where the developers want to spend their time right you want to make sure that you have projects that can grow that developer ecosystem that can bring new maintainers into the fold and bring users into the fold as well so we're very proud about our active projects and we're also very proud about the projects that got us here and you know for example on our blog you can see we do blockchain pioneers blog posts really highlighting the innovation that has happened in hyperledger over the last few years so when we think about our project portfolio we have distributed ledgers we have libraries and we have tool and it's really once again you know making sure that from a project lifecycle as things come you know and are incubating or in labs are incubating and then graduated that we have a way to make sure that when people pick up code that comes from the hyperledger foundation they understand that they understand the communities behind it and they understand how to get involved how to contribute and why very importantly it's important to contribute you want to be a member of these projects you want to contribute code you want to you know report bugs you know everything is really you know focused on creating those healthy ecosystems on the project and this is our graduated projects and you know you know there's lots of other sessions that we have on focusing on what the life lifecycle of the projects are if you want to understand that everything's very well documented and I would encourage you to do that so just very quickly I'm going to go through these next few slides just very quickly just thinking about the history of hyperledger and where we are and what we have you know hyperledger fabric continues to be one of the preferred solutions this was a report from late 2022 where the top 100 companies were asked about their use cases and fabric was selected as one of the the DLTs that they're using you'll see others there you know Ethereum obviously a lot of the Bezu abuse and fabric has an upcoming 30 release with many new features that the marketplace has been asking for and we see a lot of active projects working within what we call the fabric ecosystem and last year the fabric maintainers working with staff and other community members spent some time doing ecosystem mappings around where fabric touches other projects and other code projects within the ecosystem as well so take a look at that if you're interested and obviously in the identity space there is an opportunity for us to do similar ecosystem mappings and I know at the talk the technical oversight meeting today that actually was discussed as well so we're looking forward to doing that and back to what I mentioned about implementation support and that healthy commercial ecosystem this is just an example of fabric and we have you know slides that kind of cover other projects as well but we have a certified service provider program that helps support that we have blockchain as a service options and this is really important once again as these projects mature that there is these type of vendor and you know support mechanism plays for that commercial ecosystem that there's training and certification that people can take and be certified and you know we support that across all our graduated projects as well some examples in trade finance and all of these like I mentioned I will give these this deck out it'll be presented and linked to also in the YouTube if you're watching on YouTube where you can see the case studies in trade finance in supply chain digital currencies across our project portfolio we're seeing a lot of adoption around digital currencies for peer-to-peer transactions cross-border payments and obviously central bank digital currencies as well and we're seeing support across our projects from fabric to basu to firefly as well and there's a great e-book that you can download from our website that highlights across the world how hyperledger technologies are being used from things that are in research stage the things that are already in production in the central bank digital currency ecosystem so please if you're interested in learning more take a look at the e-book it's on our website under the research it's available in English Chinese and Japanese as well and it's a great resource to really understand why blockchain technology for central bank digital currencies and why open source and open development is really key to that I think the digital identity ecosystem is going to have a lot of intersections you know across CBDCs and it's one of the things that I look forward to having this community actually work together in 2024 to really address the needs for digital wallets and identity in the central bank digital currency ecosystem and we started obviously thinking about you know permission ledgers in 2017 but by you know by you know 2017 2018 we knew that it wasn't one one way or another right permission versus permissionless or public versus private and we started very early to fit the requirements of the ecosystem and by 2017 as I mentioned before we did already have Hyperledger borough from an EVM support perspective you know in 2019 we had the Ethereum Foundation join Hyperledger as well as the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance and very importantly we had Hyperledger Bezu being contributed by Consensus the company with the Y and today Bezu is one of the most adopted permissioned EVMs and also a rising star in the Ethereum mainnet community and we have a lot of other projects that are really focused on the Ethereum ecosystem as well I'm not going to go through this once again these slides are going to be available but Bezu is being used both as a public execution client as well as a private permissioned EVM in many use cases and I'll highlight some of these very quickly around the financial market infrastructure projects like Finality that have you know 17 major shareholders really running that infrastructure that market infrastructure is running on Hyperledger Bezu recently Citi launched their Treasury and Trade Solutions Citi token services that runs on Hyperledger Bezu things like UDPN which is the Universal Digital Payments Network also running on Hyperledger Bezu and it's really important from an optionality perspective and a token support of of of the Ethereum ecosystem and Sean earlier on mentioned the workshop that we recently did around some of the Bezu and Aries work as well which I think is fantastic and is really a great a great of great interest to the ecosystem and I if you are not paying attention to that I would highly recommend taking a look at that as well one thing that I would like to point out and I think we've seen this and we saw this very early on with the sovereign network right the sovereign was one of the first public permission networks out there runs on Hyperledger Indy and we're seeing these public permission networks expanding throughout the world things like FC with the European Blockchain Services in Europe LAC chain which is part of the Inter-American Development Bank and the blockchain Brazil which is part of the Brazilian Development Bank these are general purpose infrastructures that have once again public permission networks as core to what they're delivering they're delivering a layer one public infrastructure to these regions and to these use cases and just very quickly this is something a lot of people don't know and I like to highlight this is actually a recent report by Block Damon but the adoption trends of Hyperledger Bezu continue to grow around specifically banks and financial services as well so I encourage you to take a look at that report and as I mentioned before Bezu is running as an execution client so around 13% of Mainnet so the Ethereum Mainnet about 13% of Mainnet run Hyperledger Bezu as an execution client the numbers might be higher because these numbers are updated manually but it's very important for the Ethereum ecosystem client diversity is not an option if there is a bug in Geth and there was a recent bug in Nethermine and that you know created a lot of questions and you know people kind of jumping in and saying that client diversity is a requirement and we've been working with that Bezu community for a while to make sure that Bezu is well positioned to be taking and we've actually seen some stake validators move to 100% Bezu support which is great to see as well so really important that Bezu is a critical part of it talked about interoperability and some of the projects that we have really important as these products as these networks go into production and as these networks of networks continue to have to interoperate and companies and organizations have to basically participate in multiple networks and we've always said that that's a need as well and Hyperledger Cacti is one of the projects it's a graduated project just graduated in the October timeframe of last year that really is becoming sort of a core project to address interoperability with enterprise blockchains both in the public and the permission side as well as well all right I'm going to skip this one this is just a couple use cases if you want to take a look at it another project that came in that really is addressing the needs of the enterprise today this one came in in 2020 just graduated went into graduated status also in October of 2023 is Hyperledger Firefly and Hyperledger Firefly is really once again a tool for enterprises and startups and governments to leverage to really be able to minimize the amount of work that they need to run a network as well and it supports not just Hyperledger DLTs but also many of the DLTs out there including you know R3's Corda as well as the public blockchains like Polygon and Optimism and Avalanche and if you think about just very quickly what why why should I look at Firefly you know typically when you're building networks and applications you kind of have to think about not just the DLT and the chains but everything else that goes into building these applications you know the messaging the document management the integration into your enterprise systems the onboarding the identity pieces of it and Firefly is essentially helping you know think of it as I call it middleware into building those applications so that really you know those end-user companies and those enterprises can really focus on building the application layer and we see a lot of use cases and a lot of support in the ecosystem throughout for example SWIFT their CBDC sandbox uses Hyperledger Firefly to really iterate across many financial institutions and some of the projects that they have and there's a few others that you can read on our website so very quickly I gave you just kind of an overview of what were happening in the distributed ledger space in the permission space in the public space in the tooling around interoperability around tooling like Firefly and Bevel which is helping you know to deploy these networks and you know obviously the identity ecosystem has been critical to the Hyperledger Foundation since the beginning with Hyperledger Indy being accepted in 2017 and then Ares in 2019 and then on creds in 2022 and we know that the Hyperledger identity community also interacts in place with other projects as well but it's great to see so you know when we talk about the Hyperledger identity ecosystem within our foundation obviously Indy Ares and then on creds are the projects that we highlight and we continue to highlight as well and are very core obviously to our active projects a couple of the use cases and what this is for is actually to ask all of you whether you're listening or you're on the phone today if you have use cases that are using any of the Hyperledger technologies we need to know about them we need to be able to tell the story obviously the government of British Columbia has been fantastic not only as being one of the main contributors to these projects which is amazing to see and I think you know the government of British Columbia is probably one of the top governments contributing open source to the Linux Foundation which is amazing to always see and talk about as well and if you haven't heard John Jordan's keynote from the open source foundation the Linux Linux Foundation open source summit last year in Vancouver highly recommend it's a great keynote to really talk you know that talks about the commitments that the government of British Columbia does to the Linux Foundation primarily to Hyperledger as well but talking about use cases I think I saw Subra on the phone before around enabling portable KYC for financial institutions right this is a very important use cases that people are very interested in talking about Indy CEO's proven finance around secure financial data verification these are all use cases that if you once again have solutions that you've built using that we'd love to see and our use case tracker has over 200 plus use cases built with Hyperledger technologies this goes across all our projects not just the our identity projects of course and I encourage you to submit your use case now whether it is in pilot stage or in production stage the more we can help promote these use cases and point people to the uses of the technologies across all our projects the better suited that we are as well and last you know and like I said there's a lot of other things in this deck what they'll make available is you know many people say well Dingella there's so much going on in the Hyperledger Foundation how do I even understand what's going on from a project perspective last year we spent a lot of time working with the community to launch a project matrix so now you can go on our website and you can easily identify the different the different projects that are in the Hyperledger Foundation what their purpose is even down to what programming language they're they're they're coded in and it's a great resource for our community to do that and as I mentioned you know we continue to grow and prune in active projects this is so important you know Hyperledger Ursa which I know has been really you know was key to the the identity ecosystem we worked very closely with the Ursa maintainers and continue to do so to make sure that that code is you know properly presented to the ecosystem or moved into pieces that we have the work that you've seen with Hyperledger Ares and some of the Ares community moving over to the Open Wallet Foundation this is all about having that healthy ecosystem that continues to grow that the maintainers and the contributors go and participate and contribute to where they believe will have the most impact and the most success and here at the Hyperledger Foundation we're here to support that regardless of where you know the developers and the maintainers end up the goal is to have you know the best the most open openly developed and open governed open source projects in the world so I'm going to pause there and I know I have eight minutes and I apologize I was going to give more time for questions and I want to just thank everybody who's done a lot of work over the last eight years and I'm going to go ahead and just saw all right all right and if you have any questions feel free to Dino I see that you have hi Dino how are you I'm okay thank you Daniela for the very comprehensive and detailed presentation so my question is very practical as I alluded to before we went live in 2021 with a digital identity solution based on Hyperledger Indy and Arias has been going on very well for three years now and so and I definitely I appreciate that maybe my position is relatively different than others I work in an environment where the demand for assurance compliance it's very high and so you uh I want to make sure that I ask a pertinent question so you make a you made a very good distinction say we are a developer community then you also alluded to the fact that you have some sort of a certification for individual or for entity so given what I alluded to before and I put also in the chat my specific focus is assurance auditability certification is there any task force within the ecosystem that you and the person before has described that specifically focus on assurance processes and certification guidelines best practices whatever you name it as I said very specifically from a practical standpoint in order to provide assurance that by the solution that design implemented I had to obtain four different audits four different independent audits starting from the ISO 27001 which is not really a specific audit for blockchain based solution but it is what is available right now for at least giving some sort of a comfort of bioinformational security vis-à-vis the solution so that's the question whether there is any task force or there is a plan to establish a task force in this domain thank you right so I'm going to give you my perspective right as the executive director of the hyperledger foundation and ultimately these kind of programs and needs are driven by the maintainers and the users within each project community so I gave an example of hyperledger fabric right which is a very mature project around how and that community came to us and said we need certification we need training we need to have a certified service provider program for Bezu right now same thing right that community has production level implementations and they've said we now need the certification of the developers and the certification of the service providers so one of the things that the hyperledger foundation and across the Linux foundation you know we do is we support the needs of the community based on the maturation of what when they're needed right and things from like conformance programs right and if you look at you know the Kubernetes ecosystem and right now we're having some discussions around conformance in one of the other projects right how do you build these programs into it so I'm going to pause there and you know I don't know you know if someone else on the phone who's very active and you know a core contributor to the community wants to answer this but if it's something that is needed right now in the community this is the place to bring it up and then we can you know figure out how do we support that and what does it mean and what pieces fall under the hyperledger foundation that are very focused on the code right which pieces might fall somewhere else within the ecosystem that's very complex and you know we know that it's a very complex ecosystem as well so if anybody else has a comment on that you know please do raise your hand and speak up you know maybe this is something a session that you know I would you know recommend that maybe the special interest group couldn't schedule to kind of hash out what the requirements are where the work is being done you know we've done in the past some mappings of I think the community has done some mappings not we as staff around where the work is being done and maybe it could be helpful uh to do that yeah that would be interesting so just to follow up to your comment as a user I establish a a dynamic coalition a working group without within the United Nations on blockchain assurance standardization it's part of the internet governance forum of the UN but it will be useful to have some sort of alignment and also some input from the hyperledger community vis-a-vis as you said from a technical standpoint from a developer standpoint what are the element that can go into let's just use the term that you use conformance I like that as a former auditor I like that term much better but I think that there is a room for for for work for collaboration that area thank you okay great I'll call on Sean Bowen who is actually on staff he's one of our community architects that leads our and supports our digital identity projects um and Sean if you can just make note of that maybe you know work with Char and and Bippin and Tim and the rest of the team to get that on the schedule we'll do and Sean's awesome so hi Sean thanks Saniella any other any other questions I just had a quick question I was curious about the project matrix I I can go find the link but yeah I was just wondering if you have a little bit more information on exactly how that works and what's the best way to use that tool sure so the project matrix is on the website and obviously if there's you know updates that need to get done and let me go ahead and so if you go to hyperledger.org click on projects and then project matrix and I will share the link here on on the chat and then you can you know select you know the the different boxes on the top that you might be interested in you know what compatible projects at hyperledger what language what overall purpose etc yeah awesome that seems like a really useful tool thank you and then I'm also going to put the full deck and this is our you know this is a full briefing back deck that I you know customized a bit for today's call these slides are view only you know feel free when you're presenting the hyperledger foundation or projects within your own communities or your own company feel free to you reuse these slides as well and if you need anything else you know just reach out to staff and we're happy to provide details great thank you for sending that link and I will add that to our meeting page as well so that that is easily accessible absolutely reuse yes absolutely all right and it looks like we are just out of time thank you so much Danielle for a great presentation we really appreciate you joining us thank you to everyone who contributed with working group status updates today and yeah this was an awesome call really appreciate everyone joining fantastic and you know thanks again for all the contributions all the work you do I think it's it's really the corpus of content that this special interest group produces and puts and contributes to the community is extremely valuable so thank you absolutely and for those who attended this has been live streamed to YouTube I'm going to go into YouTube in a little bit and add links change the cover graphic and stuff so if you want to share this meeting with anyone of your colleagues or folks who work with it'll be up on YouTube in the Hyperledger YouTube channel perfect thank you Sean and thanks again Danielle I really appreciate your time and we'll see you all in two weeks thank you so much thank you everyone for your support have a great day thanks everybody thank you bye


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