Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States. Today is a day of double significance for Paris Island. We mark the graduation of 200 young Marines from recruits to Marines, and we are especially honored by the visit of our Commander-in-Chief. May I present series 1044, our newest Marines, to their Commander-in-Chief and to the American public. 1044. And now it is my distinct honor and greatest pleasure to welcome to Paris Island our Commander-in-Chief, the President of the United States. Thank you. Thank you all very much. I wonder if you have any idea what this means to a former second lieutenant of horse cavalry. It's wonderful to be with you here on Paris Island. You'll notice we brought some rain with us, and while that might cancel out the A-frame exercise for you Marines, the farmers of South Carolina, I have to tell you, ordered it up and so I had to comply. Of course, I didn't have to do the slide for life. I only had to watch, but it was fascinating to see your obstacle course and the slide for life. It reminded me of trying to get a bill through Congress. We don't have an alligator or sand fleas, but we've got some people in Washington who could double for them in a pinch. But since this is the Marine Corps and it was supposed to be real hot here, I plan to keep my remarks short, no more than an hour or so. Seriously, I'm glad you're not all standing at attention. One time I addressed a group of Marines, I told them a favorite joke of mine, and I was a bit disappointed when they didn't laugh. I thought maybe I'd gotten the delivery wrong or they didn't quite understand it or something, and then the commanding officer leaned over to me and whispered that they're standing at attention, they're not permitted to laugh. So just to play it safe at ease and feel free to laugh, that's an order. Seriously, I couldn't be happier than to be here. The recruitment posters say they're looking for a few good men, and I can see here today they found them, and I shouldn't leave out the women.  Well, the few and the proud, the Marines have always exemplified those cardinal virtues of duty to country, honor, and bravery. Since the beginning of the Corps at Philadelphia's Ton Tavern in 1775, Marines have always been on the front lines of freedom, often the first into battle, the first to fight for right and freedom on land, on the sea, and in the air, in every corner of the world. You've been there when your country needed you. You know, you and I are basically in the same business. Each day of my presidency, I work to keep our nation strong and secure so that we may always remain free and at peace. And each day, you follow one of the most difficult but noble callings, the calling of freedom fighters and peacemakers. And that's why I wanted to come out here today to talk to you about this country of ours, where we've been, where we're going, and how we can make sure that the future for Americans is one of a prosperous nation in a peaceful world. The news about our country today is good, and it's getting better. Pride is back, patriotism is fashionable once again. We've taken our armed forces, which had suffered neglect and budget cuts for too many years, and gotten them back in shape, given them a little P.T., you might say. We've restored our military to what it ought to be, combat ready and fighting fit, the strongest, proudest military for the strongest, proudest nation on earth. And we've got to keep it that way. Morale is up, way up in the services and the quality of recruits. I can tell you now, and proven by actual figures, has never been higher. And you can see that here today. And I can tell you, nothing makes me prouder than to see the fine young men and women in uniform so ready and eager to serve their country. Ernie Pyle, the famous war correspondent in World War II, reflected on the Marine Corps spirit. He wrote that he never did find out what perpetuated it, but he concluded, a Marine just plain considers himself a better soldier than anybody else. Well, Ernie Pyle didn't just admire Marines. He died with many of them on a terrible campaign called Okinawa, a campaign of bloodshed and valor for the men of the globe and anchor. You're the inheritors of that tradition. You carry on, and you know, sometimes I'd like to take some of those people in Washington who were always trying to cut defense spending and bring them here to Paris Island or to Fort Jackson or Lando or Lackland. And I tell them, these are the soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who are putting their lives on the line to keep America free. And if we ever must send our young service people into harm's way, then it is our moral duty to give them absolutely the best equipment and support that America can muster. And I promise that I, and I'm sure I'm speaking for others here on this platform, will fight as hard as I know how to make sure you get the support that you deserve. And to all of those who say that we must always cut defense first, that America can't afford a strong military, I have just one thing to say. Tell it to the Marines. So America is back, America's military is back and standing tall, and our economy is on a record-setting roll. Most important, like in the Marines, morale is way up in America. We've developed in a spree decor that can't be beat. There was a time less than a decade ago when America's leaders cowered before a future that looked to them dark and threatening and out of control. Well, no longer. The future is an open vista of expanding opportunities, and Americans are just itching to take on the challenge of tomorrow. You, the recruits of Parris Island, are part of the rising generation that will be meeting those challenges. The future of America is in your hands, whatever path in life you've chosen, whether in the military or some other profession, as Americans you carry a special responsibility. Just as in the Marines, the pride of being an American goes hand in hand with duties and responsibilities. The duties and responsibilities of citizenship and preserving and defending democracy. Good citizenship is vitally important if democracy is to survive and flourish. It means keeping abreast of the important issues of the day and knowing the stakes involved in the great conflicts of our time. It means bearing arms when necessary to fight for your country, for right, and for freedom. Good citizenship and defending democracy means living up to the ideals and values that make this country great. Today, the world looks to America for leadership. They look to what they call our miracle economy for an answer to how they may give their people a better life. And they look to our courage and might to protect them from the forces of tyranny, brutality, and injustice. I believe we've accomplished too much over the past six years in rebuilding our defense to see it all undone through short-sighted cuts in the budget. The true measure of our resolve is not only our willingness to make the great sacrifices necessary in war, but also our willingness to invest a modest level of resources in peacetime to deter war in the first place. America is today reaffirming her proud role as a leader of the free world. We've learned something about leadership here on Paris Island. And in the same way that your DI instills in his recruits leadership by example, America must lead the world by example, by always remaining true to her ideals. You Marines know better than anyone that staying true to your ideals isn't always the easiest course. It isn't always the most comfortable, or even the safest way. And sometimes it's a lot like that confidence course.  But America didn't become great because we took the easy road. America's great because of men and women like you, men and women with big hearts and strong minds and with courage beyond the usual measure. You know, someone wisely said that a hero isn't really braver than anyone else. He's just brave five minutes longer than anyone else. And it's because of you that America's future will be big and strong and generous and full of hope and fighting spirit. It's because of you that we can be sure that America will be, Semper Fidelis, always faithful to her best hopes and highest ideals. Now, it gives me great pleasure to say just one final thing. Graduates of platoons 1044, 1045, 1046, and 1047, it's my privilege to be the first to address you as Marines.  Congratulations, and God bless you all. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Mr. President, the recruits that you see before you, the Marines of tomorrow, would like to share something with you. They're a Paris Island sun cap that they've been wearing down here in different days. And it's my pleasure to present this to you from the recruits, sir.


So, I think it's safe to say that Bernie Sanders has been having a really good couple of weeks, because we learned recently that according to a Harvard University Institute of Politics poll, he has a double-digit lead among everyone else in the field when it comes to young voters. And additionally, we got a glimpse at his first quarter fundraising totals. And I think it's safe to say that he's doing okay. So as Max Greenwood of The Hill reports, Senator Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign raised $18.2 million in the first quarter of 2019. His advisor said Tuesday, a massive sum that is likely to put the progressive firebrand among the top fundraisers of the early 2020 Democratic primary season. Sanders' campaign manager, Faiz Shakir, said the senator's first quarter fundraising total was powered by roughly 900,000 individual donations with an average contribution size of $20. A number that Sanders is likely to highlight given an increasing focus on grassroots giving in Democratic politics. Shakir said 525,000 individuals across all U.S. states and territories gave to the campaign. The average age for Sanders' donors was under 39 years old, he said. Supporters have shown up big time for this campaign. Huge, you could say, Shakir told reporters. The fundraising numbers put Sanders' total haul for the quarter at $32 million, including $14 million that the senator had in other accounts to start with. Shakir said that the campaign finished the first quarter of 2019 with $28 million cash on hand. The first quarter haul sets up Sanders' campaign to expand its operations in key early voting states, said Jeff Weaver, a senior advisor to Sanders. He said that the campaign would add more staffers to its operation in Iowa and would begin staffing up in California in the coming weeks as well. So this is absolutely insane to me. I'm curious to see how others have been doing, such as Beto or Rourke, because we do know that Beto outraced him in the first day, however, Beto announced about a month or so after Bernie, so it's unlikely he's actually going to be able to surpass Bernie, but still I'm curious to see just for comparison's sake, but I mean, this is really good. This is phenomenal news for Bernie Sanders. This goes to show you that there is a people-powered movement that is absolutely enthusiastic to get someone in the White House that actually cares about them and not the large multinational corporations. And when you just go to the specifics here, the average donation now being $20, $7 lower than what he always talks about, the $27. That means that more people with less money are chipping in.  All those pundits who doubted Bernie Sanders, I think this demonstrates that they don't have their finger on the pulse of American politics, because we very much are still in this anti-establishment era. And we want someone who's not gonna get in and do the same thing that every other president has been doing. We want someone who's going to drastically change the system in a fundamental way. And Bernie Sanders, he's pledging to do that, and it shows how the people are responding to that because he's being incredibly successful. So this is getting even mainstream media pundits to pay attention to him. Because even MSNBC's Casey Hunt is taking notice. She tweeted out, if we used the metrics of any other year and applied them to Bernie, he would be called a front runner. He came in second last time, almost one Iowa, one New Hampshire, near top of early polls, huge fundraising numbers, proven appeal to base of party, and yet he gets ignored. It's absurd. And she adds, literally no other candidate with the possible exception of Biden has anywhere near as strong a list of front runner attributes. And I would argue Bernie is ahead of Biden in several areas. So if she sees it, there's no excuse for everyone else in mainstream media. It's clear that they have the blinders on and they don't want to admit that there's something really special happening right in front of them that they either don't see or they don't want to see. Maybe they see it, but they have cognitive dissonance. But pay attention because this is a historic moment. An entirely grassroots funded campaign is surging and it is powered by hundreds of thousands of people who are demanding a change to the status quo. And this isn't faux populism like Donald Trump was championing. This is true grassroots populist appeal. And it's really nice to see. I had no doubt that Bernie Sanders would be successful and even more successful the second time around because now he's coming in with the advantage of having name recognition. The first time nobody knew who Bernie Sanders was, but now people know who he is and they know what he stands for. And even though the field is certainly more crowded this time around, everyone knows that Bernie Sanders is perhaps the one politician who's been saying the same thing for decades. So I find this incredibly encouraging. But again, I want to emphasize because whenever I do these segments about how successful Bernie Sanders campaign has been, I don't want to convey to you this message that this means we're going to have an easy ride. We've got to work our asses off if we want him to get the nomination and win. And really the real work that we're going to have to put in will start once he is elected, once he's sitting in the Oval Office. So this by no means should communicate to you that we're going to have it easy. We're going to have to put in time. We're going to have to phone bank canvas for Bernie. You can text bank. We have to put in work. So don't take away from this that we've got this in the bag and I don't have to do anything. The opposite is true because he's doing so well. I think that that means that you really have to work harder because this means that the establishment and his opponents will be working that much harder because if someone really is perceived as the front runner, guess what that makes them? That makes them a target for attacks, not just from Democrats, but the right wing. So we're going to have to work hard and it's not going to be easy. However, just take a moment and celebrate what you helped Bernie Sanders to accomplish in the first quarter. This is absolutely astonishing. And anyone who tries to downplay this in mainstream media, they're just either not being real with themselves or they're intentionally trying to mislead people. Because this is absolutely an amazing run for the first quarter. Report. Sad. My views are much higher.


Live from Orlando, Florida. It's theCUBE, covering Sapphire Now. Headlines sponsored by SAP HANA Cloud, the leader in platform as a service. With support from Console Inc, the cloud internet company. Now, here are your hosts, John Furrier and Peter Burris. Back everyone, we are live in Orlando, Florida for a special presentation of theCUBE at SAP Sapphire Now, it's theCUBE SiliconANGLES flagship program. We go out to the events and extract the signal from the noise. I'm John Furrier with my co-host Peter Burris. I want to give a shout out to our sponsors. Without them, we would not be here. SAP HANA Cloud Platform Console Inc. Cap Gemini and EMC, thanks for your support. We're really excited to be here. Wall-to-wall coverage, three days. Over 40 videos, going to be hitting YouTube. SiliconANGLE.com slash YouTube. Our next guest is Daniel L.V.P. of SAP HANA Cloud Platform Product Marketing. Welcome to theCUBE. Thanks for having us. Thank you, John. You got all that out without a stumble. That was fantastic. I memorized it. That's great. Without our sponsors, we wouldn't be here. Thank you very much. Thanks to you. And it's been a great support from you and your team. Really appreciate it. Welcome to theCUBE. Yeah, I love being here. You guys have something very unique in how you bring a play-by-play but from an analyst perspective. Very, very unique. Someone called me Pat Samaral and Peter John Madden yesterday, which is great call because the highlights are ESPN. And I like it. It means all the battle-looking ones. Exactly. It'll be an NFL game day. But the game is on. Who's a guy? Boom! Boom, the cloud is here. Boom, the cloud is here. It's the whiteboard. But all seriously, it's a great conversation. And one of the things that's emerging out of the whole Haunted Cloud platform ecosystem play is that it's really buzzing. And it's not like sizzle, but it's a steak on the grill as well. So there's a lot of meat on the bone. And the thing that we're seeing is that SAP is basically putting themselves out there with tech and not trying to do the land grab. Not saying, hey, we're SAP and this is all a marketing program to get more SAP share for our other stuff. There's clear separation between SAP stuff, whether it's whatever the customers are buying, and then an open way for developers, both SAP developers, and now mainstream developers with iOS and Apple. So huge shift and the ecosystem's super excited. So I got to ask you, how do you guys separate out the market? Explain for the folks out there how this all fits in? Because the Haunted Cloud platform is more open. It's really non-SAP in a way.  Separate out what it means. Slowly back up. Let me back up and give you all the Haunted Buzzwords. And we've been very confusing to the market on how we've branded the different Haunted products. So there's the Haunted database, data management platform. We came out with that in 2011. Very similar to Oracle from a SQL interface standpoint, very different from a technology standpoint, all in memory and everybody knows that by now. Then we have another initiative called S4HANA. That's taking all of the applications, porting them on to the Haunted data management platform. So that's the AppStack. So Business Suite is now S4HANA. So data management with Haunted, S4HANA, AppStack. Then we have something called the Haunted Enterprise Cloud. And that's just basically a managed service. You want to take your landscape, give it to our data center, let us manage it for you. For SAP stuff. SAP stuff. Yeah, not any of the red stuff or anybody else's apps. But some of the partner extensions. But some of the partner extensions, yes. And that has to be certified, but basically it's a managed service. So you want to give your data center over to SAP, guarantee that it'll run, well upgrade all of the apps and enhancement packs and that kind of thing. So that's Haunted Enterprise Cloud. And then finally, Haunted Cloud Platform is something different altogether. It really is our offer, open platform as a service. So any of the applications that SAP is shipping today, whether that be business suite, S4HANA, success factors, Ariba, Concur, Cloud for Customer, you name it, can be extended or integrated using Haunted Cloud Platform. So Haunted Data Management, HEC, the managed service, S4HANA, the new AppStack, HCP really the extension platform for that SAP ecosystem. Now I say that, it's an open platform, it's Java-based, can you believe it? It's not ABAP-based, it's Java-based, Node.js, all open systems, we announced at the show that we're shipping Cloud Foundry with Node.js runtimes, scripting languages like Ruby and Python and PHP and Go, databases like Mongo and Postgres and Redis. It's open systems, baby, right? All the tools that they are offering are all in. They can do that, yeah. So any programmer under 30, we can now approach and have a conversation with. They don't have to learn a German programming language. Now, whether it's good or bad, it doesn't make any difference, it's open systems. And so that's kind of the framework of what we announced. What's it mean to developers? Okay, let's take that forward. Okay, open Cloud Platform, okay, great, under 30, or just open source is so good now. I mean, all the Q and A, all the questions are on stack, overflow and all these Node.js and technologies are all out to be reused, so that's what people want. Okay, what's the impact to me? I'm the developer. What does it mean? What's in it for me? Do I have access to all the SAP stuff? I'm used to dealing with all these different tools to put systems together. That's the beauty, John, is all of those tools that you use as an open systems developer, you can now, through HANA Cloud Platform, get to the backend systems that we didn't expose before except through an ABAP stack, right? You don't have to learn Bappies, you don't have to learn ABAP. You can use your Java capabilities using Eclipse if you want, if you want to do it on your desktop device or use a Web IDE as Java-based, right? What you're exposing these through API and microservices? Exactly, exactly, through either APIs or through integration services, through a direct connect back to the back ends, and we not only expose data, but also processes as well. So you can take advantage of a process. One of the things we announced this week was the API business hub. So now we're going to deliver a catalog of APIs where we'll publish into an open system developer can say, oh, what's with that management accounting services? That hooks back into S for HANA. I just need to call the API and take advantage of those management accounting services. Very cool, very cool. So on the Apple relationship, which is an iOS-based thing, the developer can then go to the enterprise customer so let's take the ecosystem now. Okay, I'm a developer, I have a white space, I see some unique thing that I could, a problem that my customer has that I could solve, or I'm an entrepreneur and say, hey, you know, I have a unique idea, I want to solve that problem. I code it, but I might rely on SAP data, say in ERP, I could tap that. You can now tap it. And integrate it in seamlessly. Yes, and show it natively in an iOS device. That's what we're delivering through the ACP software development kit, SDK. So you're an Apple developer today. Well, you could develop the next Snapchat or some consumer-to-consumer app, but interesting, the bulk of Apple devices or the bulk of the devices in the enterprise are Apple devices. They're not Android devices. Apple's done some work on that. Upwards of 75% are actually Apple devices. So now, you're a developer, you want to get access to all of those different applications that SAP has delivered in beautiful 1990s master detail today. Well, I mean, let's face it. I mean, we had this comment on the queue which we concurred with. The user experience of enterprise software is dated and old and people are bringing their phones to work. It's really kind of you to say dated and old, okay? I would have said old and crappy, okay? But, I mean, no one wakes up and says, hey, I can't wait to download my enterprise app and use it on the weekend. My master detail, exactly. I have to use it, it's like root canals. You love it, but you need it. Part number 0-0-0-7-4-3-X-P. Okay, so now they can get into all of those processes without having to know the back-end process. We're through the SDK, we're going to expose all of those. Here's some data on some of the onboarding. I know you had a lot of early adopters and now the program's ramping up. We've talked over the past year and you guys are tweaking the process. You want to make sure the product was solid. That was key. Might have been delayed a little bit, but the timing of the Apple announcements, perfect. But I can imagine that the developers are excited because certainly in the ecosystem out there in Silicon Valley and beyond, there's a softening that's kind of a bubble bursting if you will, on the consumer stuff. So there might not be a couple more unicorns. There's a few unicorns that come along in every cycle of innovation. But the enterprise is hot. So the buzz on the street is the enterprise is hot. That's where you make money. And that's as everyone works for a revenue model, you got to break even. So there's a big focus on that in the entrepreneurial ecosystem. So is there an uptake that you can share or any stats on the kinds of new onboarding that you guys are doing? Yeah, so just this week we also announced that IBM is taking all of their mobile firsts for iOS applications. They're going to participate in the SDK and they're going to move all of their applications onto the HANA Cloud Platform. They had a beautiful UI that they built for a hundred little mobile apps that were enterprise ready, but not enterprise connected. So now they're going to connect all those hundred little apps like find and fix and parts manager and that kind of thing. I can see the slogan now, enterprise ready to connect. Exactly. Connecting. Exactly, connect in. It's pretty decent validation of some of the things we're talking about here. Exactly. And the HCP play in it for SAP is that's the gearbox to get them back to all of the SAP apps, whether they be on-premise business suite, on-premises for HANA, workforce management with success factors and field glass. It's the gearbox to get them back to all of those. So I asked the question, you're in product market, so you get your eye on the prize and the market you're forward facing, but also you got to work with the product teams and deal with that. Do you see a window of opportunity right now because the timing of having the product ready with HANA Cloud Platform plus the Apple relationship and the IBM stuff, which is more validation, a window opportunity with the, the wind is at your back, it's a window. You got a short window to kind of go out and win. Are you worried about that? Are you guys investing heavily now? Do you see it now at a time to throttle it up and pedal to the metal, straight and narrow, 90 miles an hour? You know, I actually see it as the wave is forming, okay? I don't think our customer base knows that much about HANA Cloud Platform. It really had its coming out party at Tech Wave last October and now it's have, it's now exposed to the business group. It had the techie outage, now it's the business outing. I see the wave starting to form, okay? And we got to catch the wave and we got to ride the crap out of it. And there's a lot of stuff on the product side we have to deliver. There's a lot more that we have to do for integrating into our existing systems. We have to provide more, not direct connects. We've already got that piece, but more integration with the processes, right? I would say we're not all the way there yet. And so we have to push our product management and engineering teams to do that. And that's not always easy at a big company like SAP that has all these different divisions building processes, right? And then the other hard part is we got to make sure that our sales reps are introducing us into every single customer account as the gearbox, as the agility platform, right? So that's starting to happen. So I would say, I wouldn't even say we're on the wave yet. We're starting to catch the wave. So let me build on that. I got two quick, well two questions. I don't want to say they're quick, but here's the first one. Here's what our CIO clients are telling us. One of the advantages of everything you said, platform, a lot of entry points means that their business can pick their own roadmap for how they go to S4HANA. As opposed to having a single one way and that's the only way in, that'll extend the adoption cycle. Do you see that being a positive thing ultimately for not only SAP in getting this message and getting this product out, but also all the partners and the ecosystem to drive this whole thing forward? Let me answer the customer part of that first. The way we have set up S4 and HCP is S4 is the core that you really don't want to touch that much. You don't want to customize that much. You don't want to extend. You do that in HCP. Why would you want to do that? Well, as we deliver new enhancement packs and we're delivering every couple of quarters on the S4 platform, every time you do a customization inside the app, when you have to upgrade, you got to do regression tests. You got to check the customizations against the new rev. It becomes, in technical terms, a hairball, right? It becomes a huge hairball. Take that off the plate. Just do it on HANA Cloud platform. And so that's the customer angle to it. The partner angle to it is very simple and it's a win-win for partners and for us. They can, and for customers as well, they can build a little app on the platform, snap it into S4 or SuccessFactor to C4C and make it look like an app that's part of our SaaS application, okay? The customer doesn't have to provision anything. The customer takes a tile and puts it on their SuccessFactor application. We win because they're consuming it on HCP. So we're monetizing that too. So the partner has an easy path, the customer gets something easy, we help monetize on that. It's a great story and a lot of folks are looking for it. So for example, some of our clients are telling us, we are looking at the S4 platform, S4HANA platform, or we came to it through analytics. So here's an interesting question, Dan. You've got a lot of background in database. So the old way of thinking about building a database application is you didn't want to write an application required more than 80, 90, 100 disk IOs. Yeah. Now we're talking about in-memory databases, common organization, provide any number of different straightforward common interfaces from a view standpoint back to the application. But we're talking about what used to be or the equivalent of hundreds of, tens of thousands, maybe even hundreds of thousands of IOs. What does that mean to the types of applications that we're going to be able to build in the ecosystem over the course of the next few years? So you're right in that all data's immediately available and memory ready to go. But here's the cool thing that I think you were getting at. You can build a structure one time, you build a table structure one time. On top of that, you just build views, view logical views, and then your queries or your application looks at the logical view, right? Now logical views aren't something new. It was horrible to do it on a disk-based database, right? You had to do tons of optimizations. In a memory database, it doesn't matter, it's all there. You just look at the logical view. So we're going to see people stacking up more and more and more logical views, specifically in the analytics use case, we see that all the time. From a partner standpoint, they're going to build their table structure and then mix and match new different application types using logical views. And you know in HANA, we provide calc views and attribute views, so we, even better ways to do that. But the bottom line is the way you get to that ability to take a tile and drop it into a system and add that functionality is because that underlying platform can support that view in an almost unlimited way. Exactly. Whether the data is in HANA in the cloud or whether the data is still on-premise through a direct connection back in the existing HANA system on-premise. Of course, unstructured data complicates the database equation, but also they have to coexist with the schemas and the structured databases out there. That's right. Has that thrown a curve ball at you guys at all or not a problem at all with HANA? So, you know, we've got an answer for that with Vora. I don't know if you've talked to any of the Vora folks, but you know, what Vora brings to the party is it brings in-memory capabilities. It's an in-memory index for Hadoop data. So instead of pointing your SQL query or building a MapReduce or using Hive or one of those technologies. Or data lakes, just say data lakes. Or whatever, you just pointed at Vora and it's already indexed in-memory, right? So our plan and our hope is that soon Vora will be on the HANA cloud platform. So that's just another piece of technology, it's another service that we provide for generating a view on top of Hadoop data. That's key. So talk about the ecosystem innovation because one of the things I love in McDermott's opening keynote, and I love the term business model innovation. Is that just really speaks to a whole new level of innovation, usually it's like tech innovation. We love to get disruptive enablers, platforms. At the end of the day, the application of the tools and platforms, however they're developed by whomever, impact something. That's the business, that's the revenue. The new, these new processes that are emerging. I mean, IoT's a great example. It's kind of an unknown process. It's hard to automate that workflow because it's evolving in real time. What innovations can you point to that you see and that SAP sees as key mile markers, if you will, that shows that these things are being innovated on the business model side with the ecosystem. Yeah, I'll give you two examples. One that's kind of just a speed up and then I'll give you one that's a business model. So Homburg Port Authority is the port authority for Homburg, the second largest port in Europe. And for them to keep up with the competition, they're going to have to double and triple in the next 15 years the amount of goods going through their port. They have nowhere to build out. They cannot make their port bigger, it's surrounded by a city. There's nowhere for them to go. So they're using Hanukkah platform to basically create a grid. They're creating a utility or a cell network grid of all the containers that are sensorized, all of the trucks that have telematics information in the trucks, and they're also bringing in traffic information so that when the container comes in, they can bring the exact truck in that needs to get it in the right path into the port. If you think about that, that's a cellular network and that's what they've built using Hanukkah platform. So that's, it's a semi-change in business model for the technology. Seconds matter to them, literally, right? The faster they can match up the container with the truck that's going to move that container, the better off they are. They've got to clear the inventory, sounds like a business problem. Exactly, right? And think about it, they're probably going to sensorize the ships as well. They're going to stage those guys coming in over time, right? What's the other example? The other example is really interesting. A small company in Germany that builds forklifts. There can be nothing more pedantic than a forklift. It picks up a pallet, it moves the pallet, it puts it down, right? Okay, so here's what this company's done, it's called Still Forklifts. They are using Hanukkah platform to match up their order system, which is an SAP, with the forklifts that are sensorized on Hanukkah platform so that the order system will send the order to get picked by the forklift. And the forklift and the order system have the maps of where everything is in the warehouse. This is the client's order system. The client's order system, okay? And they've also now, they haven't done it yet, but they're working on a forklift, a forklift integration so that if this guy's over in this part of the warehouse, he has to pick something up over here, this forklift is over here, they meet in the middle, trade some product, get it out to the docking station. So the forklift is an IoT device to the order system, and it opens up the possibility of greater automation within the warehouse forklift. And they've changed their business model. They're no longer selling forklifts, they're selling pounds of goods moved within the warehouse, from in the warehouse to shipped, and they're billing on a monthly basis based on pounds of goods shipped. They're not selling forklifts anymore. That is pretty cool. That's a complete shift. That's a business model shift. It's an outcome shift. Yeah, absolutely. They're selling the outcome. Exactly, exactly. Okay, so, and they had to think differently about their business, right? You know, they had to think we are not a forklift operator, we're a goods mover operator. To your business model, we were a forklift operator, now we're goods mover. Exactly. An in warehouse good mover. Exactly, exactly. That's a great example, enough to give innovation, because now, as the key knows we're saying, people are afraid to go out of business. And so the opportunity for the ecosystem is, put one of those guys at check. Exactly. They'd have been to check, if they don't move, you take their territory. Exactly. So it's a nice cycle. Exactly. I guess they can win on both sides. On both sides, yeah. All right, yeah, I got to get to the question. So, plans for this year, you got the Apple, you got the cloud platform, you have all this goodness going on. What's the plans for the year? Give us a taste of some of the things that you want to achieve this year out in the market. And what KPIs are you looking at? Yeah, what are we going to be talking about this time next year? I think we're going to be talking about what did you guys do in the area of Cloud Foundry? Have you guys really delivered on your Cloud Foundry promise of going open source and moving toward portability? So next year, if we're fortunate enough to speak again, that's what I want you to ask me. Where are you guys on delivering Cloud Foundry, pushing open source, open development for developers even further as we talked at the outset of the interview. And then secondly, where are we on the API business hub? What is SAP doing to expose the thousands of business services that we have to our customers to be able to use the HANA Cloud platform with a catalog of business services that we're exposing to help them extend or modify or build out new applications. And new onboarding numbers, having numbers showing growth. That's right. Now what that means from a revenue standpoint, it means we got to double or triple our business next year. We're not talking a 10%, 15% growth. We're talking an order of magnitude growth for our part of the business. And so you'll be investing more in marketing, training, tools. All of the above. All of the above. Hey, companies want to get into the enterprise and the existing enterprise suppliers want to stay in the enterprise. Exactly, exactly. It's a good time to be an arms dealer. Exactly, and we'll supply it with the HANA Cloud platform. Dan, thanks so much for sharing your insight here on theCUBE. Really appreciate it and great to meet your team and everyone here, it's been fantastic. We are live here in Orlando. The theme is live here at SAP this year. And of course we got the live coverage from theCUBE. This is theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, Peter Barris. We'll be right back. You're watching theCUBE.


You find this a strange place, don't you? And you're wondering about a lot of things. Who I am, why I brought you here and what's going to happen to you. Who I am and why you are here are not important. But yes, I'll be glad to tell you what's going to happen to you. You're going to die, both of you. Midnight Midnight, the witching hour when the night is darkest, our fears the strongest, and our strength at its lowest abode. And now, murder at midnight, tales of mystery and terror by radio's masters of the macabre. Our story by Robert Newman is The Dark Chamber Hello, police. Listen, you've got the help you've got. My name's Watson Joe Watson. I'm a driver for the Ajax Sanitary Hand Laundry. Where I am, you mean? I don't know, that's part of the trouble. Wait, listen, I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. Check the laundry, check the veterans. I'm an XGI, they'll tell you I'm straight. Well, I'm in a room someplace. I don't know where it is or how I got here or what I'm here for. I don't even know how long I've been here. It's a big room, but funny. No doors, no windows that I can see, just a couple of chairs and a table with this phone on it. Walls of gray, rough like soundproofing, and I'm scared. What do you expect us to do? Find me, find out what this is all about and get me out of here. Well, I don't know, huh? Listen, this isn't a gag, can't you tell? You don't know what it's like just sitting here waiting, not knowing where or why or what's going to happen. Can't you trace this call or something? Well, okay, hang on. I'm afraid that... Listen, I hear something. Someone's coming. I better hang up. I'll call you back later if I can. How do you do? Who are you? My name's Helmin. Dr. John Helmin. Your name? I don't have to tell you anything. That's very true. Though I didn't think you were aware of it. I think I already know everything about you that I'm interested in knowing. Like what? Name? Joseph Watson. Age? 26. Occupation? Employee of the Ajax Laundry. Honorably discharged from the army six months ago with a bronze star and purple heart. What?  Well, if you know that much, you know I haven't got any dough. Money? I'm not interested in money. What do you want then? Where is this place? The last thing I remember is making a delivery on Spruce Street. Noticing that the lights were out in the hall and hearing a noise behind me. You or somebody slugged me. That's right. Well, will you stop grinning like that and tell me what this is all about? Of course. I brought you here because I need your help in an experiment. An experiment whose details I've already worked out with mice, rats, cats and other animals. What? What kind of an experiment? An experiment in fear. Here. Yes. You fought in the war and you were wounded. That means you've probably known fear. And still you won the bronze star. That means you overcame it. The question is, can you overcome your present fears? What are you talking about?  Nothing has happened to you yet. Absolutely nothing. And yet you are afraid, aren't you?  Because you don't know what I want, what I'm planning to do. That is as it should be. And that is the way we believe it. Or the method. Wait a minute. Come back here. Come back! You can't... Hello operator, get me the police. Hello, please. This is Joe Watson again. Listen, I got a little more dope. I don't know if it'll help, but there was a guy in here just now. His name was Helmi. John Helmi. That's probably a phony.  Now I still don't know what it's all about. Have you been able to trace this number yet? How long will it take? Okay, I'll hang on, but the lights just went off. The room's pitch dark and someone's coming in again. I better stop. Please, hurry. Who's that? Who just came in? Who are you? A girl. Keep away from me. Keep away from here. Keep away? What's the angle now? Angle? Why did you bring me here? Wait a minute. You mean he put the snatch on you too? When I was on my way home, chloroform or something. And the next thing I knew, why are you pretending? You're in on a tool. You must be. It's a trap. It's a trap, all right, but I'm not in on it. I'm in it, along with you. My name's Watson, Joe Watson. I'm Fetty Grass. You swear? I swear. What would I lie about it for? I don't know. I don't know anything, but... No, I don't think you're lying. Two of us now. I wonder why he put you in here, put us together. Who is he? What's he going to do? I don't know. He said something about an experiment. An experiment in fear, but listen, we gotta get out of here. Somehow, some way. He may be listening. Very astute, my dear. Of course I'm listening. But where are you? Right here. I've been here all the time. Who are you? No, Joe, Joe. He must want you to go for him. He's probably got a gun. Right again, my dear. Well, that I'll need it. This is stage two of the experiment. A new stimulus action has been introduced. Man against the unknown has become man and woman against the unknown. Look, let's get down to brass. Tax, be sensible about this. Certainly, Joe. That's why I won't need my gun. This new stimulus has been negated by an increased sense of responsibility. Responsibility charges the girl. And therefore, by increased fear. Well, you gunner, no gunner, if I can get my hands on you. Where are you? Where are you? Outside now. There you can relax. That was the final stimulus in this stage. In your pride, the discovery that I could read your innermost thoughts knew exactly what you were going to do.  I already know everything you're going to do. From now on, you'll be ends. Listen, you. Help me. Help me. You. Hold on, baby. Don't let her get you. Must be away, somewhere. Do you suppose he's still listening? Hard to say. But I'm going to take a chance. There's one thing he didn't figure out, the telephone. Here? Yeah. If I can find it again in a dark. Here it is. I put through two calls already to the police. Told them what was happening and asked them to get me out of here. Had to hang on both times before they could trace the call to get this number. This time I'm going to. Help. Operator. Oh, this isn't the operator. You're on a busy wire. It doesn't matter. Get off the line, will you? I've got to get through to the police. It's terribly important. But you don't know where. Know what? It's true. A strange house somewhere. A doctor says his name is Helmi. What are you laughing at? What is it, June? What is it? I haven't got it. I've got a guy named... I'm sorry, Ben. It's no use. What do you mean? We're in the same boat you are. A girl named Betty Grant and myself. Helmi's got us locked up, too. Locked up? Yeah. Said he knew everything we were thinking, everything we were going to do. I did get through the police before, but I guess he caught wise. We're talking to each other over an inside line. Yeah, we're through. Don't say that, Joe. Don't even think it. Look, ask him exactly where he is. Where are you, Ben? Do you know? There doesn't seem to be any door opening or anything like that. That's what I thought here, too, but there must be one. Well, how would he have gotten in there? Listen, start looking. See if you can find it. Okay. Then, if the three of us can get together, we ought to be able to figure something out. Hold on. Go ahead. What's he doing? Going to knock on the wall to see if he's anywhere near us. If he is, if he can find the door and we can get together... Do you hear anything? I'm not sure. Maybe. I'm not sure either. Far away is it. There. Listen. That wall right there. Hello. Hello, Ben. Yes. We heard you. You're right next to me. Now you listen and Betty will knock back. Go ahead, Betty. That way you'll be able to tell just which wall it is. All right. He's got it. He's going to see if there's a door. There must be one in Boston. Ben. Ben. Hello. What is it, Joe? I don't know. I thought I heard something there. A yell and then... Joe, look. There is a door there. It's opening and... you. Dr. Helm? I guess. Were you expecting someone else? An experiment in fear. Yes, I think someone else was expected. And still is. But not for a little while yet. Not until the clock strikes twelve for... Murder at midnight. Just a moment later now, standing in the darkness of the strange room, two frightened young people stare at the tall figure of the doctor, silhouetted against the dim light from outside. They catch a fleeting glimpse of a long corridor and of something lying on the floor. Then Helming steps into the room, shutting the door behind him. I asked whether you were expecting someone else. Then it was just a trick. It was you on the phone all the time. No. Don't you think I'd know his voice? Where is he? Our friend, Mr. Lazare. Right outside. What'd you do to him? That's me. What'd you do to him? Don't you know? Sure I know. You killed him. You... Did you kill him? Quite a state you've gotten yourself into. Why? Is it because you finally tried to do something about your predicament and failed? Because getting together with Lazare would have been a kind of victory, indicating there was a chance of escaping? Or is it because you weren't sure whether I would kill or not? And because you still don't know. You're mad. Really mad. I wasn't sure before, but I am now. You're just not normal. Really? And just what does being normal mean? Doesn't it depend on geography? Other factors? You're not say Germany under Hitler. Is it normal to hate, despise democracy, believe in violence, lies and murder? It sure was. But this isn't Germany. True. And also true that by American standards you are normal and I am not. And it's because you are normal with normal reactions and inhibitions that I brought you here for study. But you will be interested to know you have not done nor will do one thing that I did not foresee. You made every emotion you felt was charted, outlined, and... What that? That I think is probably the police. Police? Yes. I know that you're very anxious to talk to them. Well, I'll see that you get a chance to soon. Good evening, officer. I'm looking for a guy named Helming. Dr. Helming. Oh, I'm Dr. Helming. Come in, won't you? Okay, thanks. This is, well, a kind of a funny business. It's about a phone call we got a while ago. Finally traced here. From a guy who said he was a prisoner or something. That must have been Watson. Yeah, that was his name, Joe Watson. You know him? Of course. I can't tell you how sorry I am. It was really very careless of me and I'll see that it doesn't happen again. What do you mean? If you did any investigating, which I'm sure you did, then you know that I, well, I turned to run the sanatorium exactly, but I do take a few patients, mental cases for treatment. Oh, so that's it. Not, huh? I wish you wouldn't say that. The warriors have been a great strain on all of us. And there were those who just couldn't take it. Watson, for instance, and my other patient, Betty Grant. True, huh? What's their trouble? Well, Watson's case is particularly interesting. A forehead wasn't able to enlist. He developed a sense of guilt, which became too much for him, turned into a persecution mania. Thinks that everyone is now an Oliver. Well, not everyone exactly. His present fantasy is that he's an ex-G.I. and that I'm keeping him prisoner. You see, since he wasn't able to fight in the war, he's cast me in the role of the enemy and he's fighting against me. Any hope for him? Definitely. Miss Grant's problems, however, are more complex. But the interesting thing is that when she's with him, she takes over his delusion and shares it with him. Sure sounds plenty tough. Well, I guess I'll run along. I'm sorry I bothered you. Well, don't you want to see them first officer and talk to them? There's no need of that, Doctor. We get calls from cranks every day. We always investigate, of course. But I insist. After all, you only have my word for it. However, there's... Well, there is just one thing I'd like to caution you about. I know. You want me to play along with them. Right. Oh, don't worry. I'll help you with them. Oh, splendid. Right in here. Oh, quite a room. Our condition is much better than having windows with bars on them. Joe, look. It is a cop. And that means that... then you did get my message. Sure, Joe. Took a little time to trace the call, but everything is okay now. Oh, thank heaven. Such a screwy story. I was afraid that... Wait a minute. Why is he standing there like that? Why haven't you got the bracelet on? Dr. Helming? Oh, no need for any rough stuff. He said he'd come along quietly. What? But you're lying. I don't know why, but there's something wrong here. You think we made the whole thing up that we're crazy? Oh, now, now, now... It's true. He told you we were and you believed him. Good Lord, haven't you got eyes on your head? Would two of us be crazy in just the same way? Well, of course not. And I'm telling you... Stop it. Will you stop talking like that? If I could only prove it to you somehow, show you. I know. Lazarus. Joe. Murder. That'll open your eyes. Somewhere in that wall, there a door. Make it... Make him open it. Show you what's behind it. I think maybe I'd better be going, Doc. That is the door, Officer. Just a second and I'll open it for you. Here we are. Joe. The body, it's gone. These doctors, they're always hiding the bodies. If it turns up again later, give us another ring. Can I go out this way, Doc? Down to the end of the corridor, then to your right. I'm sorry I gave you all this trouble. Now, perfectly all right. And thank you for being so understanding. Goodbye. So long. Well, children? Don't look that way, Joe. Don't. I know what you're thinking and it's not true. We're not crazy. There was a body there. Of course. You hid it when you went out to let the cop in. And the telephone, you left that there purposefully. You wanted me to use it to get the police here. Obviously. I told you that this was to be an experiment in fear. What I didn't tell you was that, in a sense, I was one of the subjects, too. It was important for me to learn how I would function under pressure. And speaking objectively, I think I did rather well, don't you? Why? Why are you doing all this? What are you after? There was no reason why I shouldn't tell you. If anyone truly understands the nature of fear, is able accurately to forecast the actions and reactions of an individual, then he can use fear as a weapon. Or society will react as the individual reacts. You see, society doesn't want to believe that anything can benefit. Doesn't want to take action to protect itself any more than the individual does. This was something that Hitler and Mussolini understood intuitively. I understand it scientifically. They failed, but I shall succeed. You mean that you... I'm afraid that's all I have time for. As far as you two are concerned, the experiment is finished. Completely finished. I have a few arrangements to take care of. And then, well, make the most of these last few minutes. Or they will be your last. Jodie, do you hear anything? Is he coming back? Not yet.  Just the way he killed Lizari. He's going to try to. Why are you sitting there like that, looking at me? Hmm? I guess because it's the first chance I've had to look at you. How do you mean? Well, when he first put you in here, it was all dark. And so many things happened after that. It's funny. What is? The things that you can tell about a person even in the dark. I kind of thought you were little. I knew you were awful nice and had a lot of nerve, but I didn't think you'd be so pretty. I'm not so pretty, Joe, and I'm not very brave either. I'm scared. I'm awful. I'm scared. I don't want to die. Don't worry about it, baby. Don't think about it. But just sitting here like this, waiting, there's nothing we can do every time we did try to do something it was something he knew about, was expecting us to do it. Please, baby. Something happened to you. You were scared before, too. But now... This... This is going to sound kind of funny, especially now, but... Well, do you have anyone special? A fella, I mean. Right. I know, Joe. At least not exactly. Well, that's swell. Well, gee, it's a shame we never met before. If we had, we wouldn't be here now. I mean... Well, we probably would have been out together someplace and... What time do you get through work, usually? About six. The store closes at 5.30, but me, too. I could have picked you up about six and then... Joe, you still haven't told me what you're going to do. What's the difference? Just as long as somebody does something... Joe, I hear something. He's coming. Yeah, okay, get up. Open that corner of the room and see as soon as he opens the door. But what about you? I'll be waiting over here. Behind the door? Joe. I know I haven't got much of a chance, but I wish me luck. Joe, no, please, you... All right, my young friends, time. All my arrangements have been completed, and... Where's what? Right here! What are you doing? Joe, look how he's... It's okay, baby. He didn't get me. I had the barrel of the gun and... Good Lord, it got him in the chest. But you couldn't have done that. You couldn't have. Outside, Betty. See if you can find another phone. All right. Call the police again. And this time tell them to bring an ambulance. But you couldn't have done it, I tell you. It was all plotted. Craft, worked out in detail. And you guessed what you were going to do. How you would react.  Why did you do it? Why? I don't know. Now just take it easy and end it. If I've got to know, you've got to tell me. Is it because of the girl? Out of desperation?  I tell you, I don't know. I just know that... Well, a guy will take just so much pushing around. Blind there, Dr. Helming stairs uncomprehendingly at the young man who bends over him. Then suddenly, a look of fear comes over his face. And even as he tries to draw away his eyes glaze and he too passes into a dark chamber. A haunted room which has no exit has the clock strikes twelve for Murder! Admit not! Remember to be with us again when a door that is no door opens and the clocks strike twelve for Murder! Admit not! Joe Watson was played by Bill Quinn. Dr. Helming was Harold Young. With music by Charles Paul, Murder at Midnight was directed by Anton M. Leder.


In 2012, Eve Arnold passed away at the age of 99. By the end of her career, she was rightly regarded as one of the greatest photographers of the 20th century. However, her career didn't get off to the most auspicious start. How's it, how's it? If you look up Compassion in a photographic dictionary, then you will see a photograph of Eve Arnold because she is that poster child for the photographer, for the photojournalist who is caring, compassionate, is thoughtful, is thinking about the subject, is going beyond the everyday. She is quoted as saying that it is the hardest thing in the world to take the mundane and to try to show how special it is. If you look at her photographs of film stars and celebrities and great figures in history, then you will see she's actually done the opposite. She takes these larger-than-life figures, these so-called special people, and shows us the banality, the everyday humdrumness of their existence, the person behind the mask. This is her special skill. This is what makes her photography so, so emotionally impactful. I did myself a great disservice when I was younger by not looking at Eve Arnold's photographs. I was drawn more to those larger-than-life figures in photojournalism who were all about the lifestyle. But Eve Arnold just went about her career quietly, unassumedly, and I feel that now her work speaks far more much to me than, say, the work of Robert Frank. It was in the late 1940s that Eve Arnold first picked up a camera at the behest of her husband who suggested that if she was going to be a photographer, she probably should go and take some photographs, which seems like a good idea, right? So she went off and she photographed some things and without much direction, I think like most of us, trying to find our feet. Unfortunately for Eve, she was able to enroll under the tutelage of Aleksa Brodojevic, who was a very famous figure. He was the art director for Harper's Bazaar at the time. To give her photography a little bit of a focus, a purpose.  We are going to, you know, use ourselves to teach ourselves. And then said, has anybody brought along any photographs that they can show us? Now Eve's friend kind of nudged her and said, look, look, look, you've brought some pictures along.  And she says, and recalls in her book, The Unripe Touch Woman, that the feedback from the class was brutal. That it was the hardest thing that she has ever been subjected to. And in that class, I believe there was the likes of people like Avedon. So you can imagine the sort of people that she's surrounded with. But she did say that despite being felt like she'd been flayed alive, she learned more about photography in that single night than she had since. In my mind, there is one subject that is intertwined with Eve Arnold and that is Marilyn Monroe. Arnold had met Monroe in the early 1950s when Monroe had approached her to take some photographs. I love this clip from a BBC documentary where Eve recalls that first meeting. What happened was Marilyn had seen a set of pictures I'd done for Esquire on Marlena Dietrich. You must remember that in the 50s, this was I think 1952. And in those days, practically everything was front lit, retouched, very carefully organized. And I didn't know about any of that. And I was a documentary photographer. And I had done this series on Marlena Dietrich singing the songs that she had made famous during the war, Lily Marlene, Mrs. Otis Regrets and all of those. I simply took her as she was. There was no posing, no setup, no lighting, no tripod, just me and Marlena singing. And there we were working on this and we were both at a party for John Houston, given a 21 in New York. And Sam Shaw, the mutual friend, brought her over and introduced us. And she looked at me and she said, if you did that well with Marlena, can you imagine what you can do with me? Which I thought was quite wonderful because she had naive quality, but she also had a great sense of showmanship and self-promotion. And she could see herself, I was sure, in what she was gonna look like in that square. It's interesting when you listen to Eve talk about her early forays into the world of let's say proper photography, is that she's not aware of a lot of rules, of kind of unwritten guidelines about how you're supposed to behave. And what I draw from this is that, I think had she been aware of certain ways of you're supposed to do X, Y and Z things, then possibly her relationship with Monroe wouldn't have been as deep, as thoughtful as it ended up being because she would have probably held herself back, probably stood one remove from Marlena. Because of course, this is not in Eve Arnold's nature, not at all because she says, you know, if a photographer cares about the people before the lens and is compassionate, there's that word again, much is given and it is the photographer, not the camera that is the instrument. Then if you are careful with people that they will offer you part of themselves and that is the big secret to photography. And you see this with Marilyn Monroe. We are all aware now of the struggles that she was going through, that inner turmoil, the tragic story of her. But at the time, you have to sort of put these things in context and she was one of the biggest stars in the world. She had a personality that was completely divorced from her true self and it's these photographs that Eve Arnold has put together that show a glimpse of what's going on inside Marilyn's mind or Norma Jean's mind. She's showing us Norma Jean, she's showing us the real girl inside Marilyn Monroe. It's telling that when the whole of the magnum group were invited along to photograph on the set of the Misfits, that the photographs that have stuck, that have stayed from this period, are the ones of Eve Arnold. That despite all those other names who came and went and photographed things, it's the photographs of Eve Arnold that cut through everything, that cut to the chase. The photographs that Eve took on the set of the Misfits are not the result of just taking an image on a whim. They're a result of waiting, of building up trust with the people who you knew are photographing. By this point, she had known Marilyn for a good number of years. They saw each other socially. So you can see how these photographs are in a way, images that I don't think would ever happen with another photographer, had there been another photographer present, they are just purely the result of the subject. Subject sounds like a terrible word. It's like you're analyzing people, but it is the sound or it is the look of the people being photographed at totally at ease, so comfortable with Eve being there taking photos. This is the true skill of Eve Arnold's photography, is to immerse herself into the people, into them, to really reach out, to feel so much for the people who she's photographing. It doesn't matter that if it's a film star or a Zulu woman in Africa or a tribal woman in China, all these sort of things, it doesn't matter. She is involved with these people. She cares so much. That's why I keep coming back to the word compassion. She is wonderfully compassionate. Just listen to her talking about what happened after Marilyn Monroe's death. After she died, there was a set of pictures of Bert Stern taken of her and they were wild and almost out of control when he shot them. I don't know whether she was hyped up from sheer excitation or whether she'd been drinking and what had happened to her, but she was absolutely wild during that session. And they were semi-nudes, nudes with scarves, diethnoscarves that she was playing with. And she hated, most had great many of those pictures and she had agreed that she would go through them and that they would have to go along to her choices. And in the end, what happened was that Bert Stern sent her only about a third of the pictures and what she returned to them had been gouged with some kind of sharp instrument, a hairpin or something like that. She hated them. And in the end, he used them in his book. And I feel that that kind of invasion of somebody lends you their face, I think you owe them the courtesy of trying to make them, you know, you don't have to flatter them, you don't have to retouch them, you don't have to do any of that. But I do think you owe them the courtesy of having them look as well as they could. And I suppose for me, and maybe one of the reasons that I finally decided to do this book was the ultimate in horror for me of what can happen to a picture. In the Summers book, he uses the picture taken of her and the mord and that hurt because all of us who worked with her and respected her and loved her cared about her, wanted her to come off as nice, as intelligent, as wonderful as she was. And it hurt when that was used. I mentioned at the beginning of the video that when I was younger, I was too wrapped up in stoking my own ego to realize the true importance of Eva Arnold's photography, of the message of this idea of compassion. And she says it best in her book, Unretouched Woman. Over the years, the women I photographed talked to me about themselves and their lives. Each had their own unique story to tell, uniquely female, but also uniquely human. Themes recur again and again in my work. I have been poor and I have wanted to document poverty. I had lost a child and I was obsessed with birth. I was interested in politics and I wanted to know how it affected our lives. I am a woman and I wanted to know about women. I realize now that through my work these past 25 years, I have been searching for myself, my time and the world I live in. There is a fantastic BBC documentary on YouTube about Eva Arnold and Marilyn Monroe. If you're interested in seeing the thought process or hearing the thought process about how Eva developed this relationship, then I would highly recommend that you go and check it out. I'll link to it here and in the description box below. Thank you ever so much for watching. Have a great weekend.