Just been driving for a few hours and I arrived at this bungalow where I'm staying tonight Got two beds here In case anyone wants to come here and chill. We can relax together by this farm It's very peaceful out here More my kind of scene as you know, I'm not really fussed about cities. I prefer quiet places But yes, I'm just having a good time out here and got a very important topic for tonight We're talking about How to defeat the narcissist? because it seems that This is quite a difficult thing to do and I've spoken about it in the past I've done videos on How to defeat the narcissist And it's very rare that I say this in fact, this may be the first time But in those videos in the past where I talked about Defeating the narcissist. I'm starting to believe that I got it wrong because I used to say that If you want to defeat the narcissist you just have to Become happier and more successful and you can take pictures about your new amazing life without them Put it on social media so they can see it When actually that is the wrong thing to do So I take back advice At the time it seemed correct But the reality is that If you do go on to become happier and more successful without them They're only going to come back to destroy it Or they're going to discredit you to everyone They're going to make you look bad They're going to destroy your reputation They're going to try to sabotage your new job your business Whatever it is that you have accomplished They're just going to tear it all down Even though you may be doing it because the entire time They made you feel like you're not good enough So now it's like you want to prove a point You want to gain their validation By using everything that they did to you Everything that they said As your motivation to become better When actually doing that is just going to make them envious and jealous It's just going to make them want to come back to destroy it So I don't advise doing that at all I'm not saying that you shouldn't try to become happier Or more successful without them But if you do Make sure that they don't know about it Don't reveal that information to them Because they're not going to appreciate it They will never appreciate you They will never give you that validation that you're looking for The more that you try to please and impress them The more that they're going to want to destroy you Because they're envious of that So be very aware of that When you're dealing with narcissists And in fact what I do advise you to do If you finally want to defeat them You have to stop listening to the things that they're saying about you And even the things that they're doing Don't let it get to you You can't care about it The more that you care the more that they're going to do it And there's no point in worrying about things that are outside of your control Things that no matter what you do it's not going to change the end result They're still going to hate and despise you It's not going to change anything So don't even try to control it And instead you need to become indifferent To where you no longer resonate with the things that they're saying or doing It no longer bothers you, it no longer gets to you You are unfazed, you are unmoved It doesn't affect you emotionally It doesn't make you react And instead you choose to maintain your distance You recognize that there is power in being alone and without them You recognize that that is your strength That the isolation empowers you And that you don't need all of these people in your life All of these flying monkeys They're not going to do anything for you They're not going to support you So what does it look like When you have defeated the narcissist How it looks is instead of worrying too much About superficial things Whether it be money power or success Or trying to prove a point to them Trying to surpass them Trying to live the best life that you can live Trying to achieve all of these things Instead of doing that And putting yourself in a very vulnerable position Where they then have the opportunity to come and destroy it Instead of doing that Focus on building your character Focus on acquiring knowledge experience and skills Things that cannot be destroyed or taken away Things that still have power To influence other people To improve other people's lives Where you can become motivational and inspirational And not only that But being able to enjoy the little things in life Instead of trying to compete with them And to show them that you're so much happier without them If you want to show them that you're happy Let them see you out in nature Where you're not worried about things Where you're not worried about money Because however it is the situation Whether they have more money than you Or you have more money than them Either way they're still going to use money wealth and success to control you So you have to learn to be happy with less You have to focus on things like Acquiring knowledge skills and experience Influencing other people in a positive direction Focus on what you can control Because you cannot control them You cannot control what they do So even though all of these things may be happening around you Things that you may not be pleased with Things that you do not approve of You have to recognize that it is out of your control And instead of worrying about it and reacting to it And being in that state of fear that they want you to be in Instead of doing that practice discipline and self-control Emotional stability Be in control of your emotions and reactions By focusing on logic and reason Acquiring new skills More knowledge wisdom and experience Rather than being naive like you were before Where you were willing to believe anything That they said to you And you let it have power over you You let it control you And your emotions Instead of doing that become more centered Look within Practice mindfulness and meditation Spend time out in nature Things that don't cost anything Or it doesn't cost much Just focus on simple things in life Don't put yourself in a vulnerable position Where you are open to attack Because that's all you're going to be doing If you go on and You work hard at your job You start a new business You're becoming more successful You're making loads of money That just entices them to come back And destroy everything for you again Because they will be very envious and jealous So doing these things And showcasing it on social media That you're having a great time You're living your best life without them That is not the right way to go about it I don't advise doing that at all Instead I advise going off the grid Not spending too much time on social media Not even showing them that you're happy Let them think that you're down Let them think that you're miserable without them And then they might just leave you alone Because look at all of those times that you were miserable Were they ever there for you Were they ever there to help you Did they ever care about you No, they left you alone They thought they were leaving you to rot So that is what you have to do Make it look like things aren't going so well If you're taking pictures Don't wear your new clothes If you bought a new car Don't let them know about it Don't let them know anything And in fact, be very careful With the things that you have, your possessions Don't go around wearing designer clothes Or buying flashy cars I mean, I don't want to tell you what to do Or how to live your life But you have to think carefully About how this will affect the narcissist Because if they see all these things They're only going to come back to use and destroy you So be very careful and learn to live a more humble life That's my advice What you choose to do, that's up to you For me, as you've probably noticed I'm not really too focused on flashy things anymore I prefer to live a quiet life My main focus now is my daughter And of course Nala as well She's in Malaysia at the moment But other than that That's all that I really worry about in my life Those are the two most important things to me And even myself I just maintain basic health Basic appearance for my videos, my work Other than that I don't really do too many exciting things Like I did before I don't like to show off I like to keep everything quiet Just live a regular life And in fact I do find happiness in that I find a lot of peace And my main focus now Is my child And my cat That's all that really matters to me And of course this community as well But even these things Who's to say that one day something happens to this community And I don't have that anymore Or something happens to my cat And even my daughter I haven't seen her for over two years So at this point I'm not really attached to anything I learn to find peace in myself no matter what And as the Buddha once said Attachment is the root of all suffering So the less attachments you have in your life The more at peace you will be And you should definitely detach from the narcissist and Trying to prove a point to them Because as I said that is not going to help you That will likely make things worse for you So put the focus back in yourself Just acquiring new knowledge, skills and experience Just finding peace in yourself, in mindfulness and meditation Learning new things That's what I advise you to do And when you become non-reactive You no longer care too much about what they're doing That's when you've defeated the narcissist And that is the only way to defeat the narcissist Just saw a lizard on the window Don't know if you know but I love lizards I just like the shape of them But yes that's what it's really about Just going within to find your happiness I mean the reality is even if the narcissist left you alone I've experienced this myself What I acquired all of these things Staying in these four bedroom villas Driving a Porsche Meeting all of these girls None of that ever made me happy I never felt at peace when I was doing those things It actually just distracted me from all of these things that were going on within And it's like once all of those things got taken away Then I really started to go within myself I started to remember my passion in helping other people Being of service to them And for me as an empath Even despite all of the pain that I've been through And everything that was done to me That's still what matters to me the most It's having empathy for other people And just doing the best that I can giving value But yes that may also make you a target And you do need to be selective In who you do that to But I'm definitely not against showing empathy To some being of service and helping them I'm still going to continue to do that I do believe that that is my purpose in this life But aside from that Living a flashy luxurious lifestyle That's just not important to me anymore I mean I've been there, I've done that As I've said it's more about this community It's more about my daughter and my cat These three things are all that really matter to me And even then I don't attach them too much Because like I said at any moment Things can be stripped away from you So if you're not attached to these things You can still find peace and happiness within yourself So that's really it, that's the message And I hope that it does bring you peace and comfort In knowing this how you can defeat them Instead of trying to prove a point to them Or seeking validation Or even trying to get them back So yes, 100 live viewers Please show your support down below If this video was helpful for you By giving it a thumbs up And don't forget to subscribe as well If you haven't yet Hit the bell icon To receive notifications for my 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Today, I wanted to ask your opinion on something because I'm kind of unsure of what direction I want to go regarding some of the software I've been working on here in recent weeks. I switch over to my desktop. I spent much of today working on this little welcome application for DTOS. It'll be called DTOS Hub, but one of the things I was adding here in the last few days, this additional software tab where I'll have categories like, you know, web, audio games, yada, yada, yada, and you can have various popular programs that I think many people, especially new to Linux, will probably want and won't know how to get, especially some proprietary applications, for example, Discord. Now I've always been of the opinion that Linux distributions really should only ship free and open source software by default where possible. And obviously you can't have everything be free and open source software because sometimes there's just no free and open source alternatives to certain things, for example, drivers. Sometimes you have to use proprietary graphics drivers, Wi-Fi drivers because there's not an open source driver for certain types of hardware. But as far as most applications on a GNU slash Linux system, I think they should all be free and open source. You should ship with free and open source web browsers, office suites, video players, things like that. But I know many people don't care about free and open source versus proprietary software. They're OK using proprietary software. I'm not one of those people, but I know some people just don't care. And I want to make sure that they can install their proprietary applications like Discord, for example, if I go into the video category, you know, DaVinci Resolve or whatever it is they want. And I think that kind of makes sense. But one of the things I did on video the other day was I was showing some of the programs that get installed in the DTOS installation script. And one of the guys pointed out in the comments that one of the fonts that I have installed by default on DTOS is not licensed under a free license. And when he pointed this out, I actually was not aware of that because JoyPixels is the font he pointed out. It's one of the standard fonts that's in the Arch repositories, just the standard Arch repositories. And I assume because it's in the Arch repo, it was probably free and open source software. Now, Arch is not one of these staunch free software distributions like, for example, Debian. Debian will not put anything proprietary in their standard repositories. They just don't do it. Arch doesn't care, right? A matter of fact, one of the programs I just showed you, Discord, which is, of course, proprietary software, is in the standard Arch repository. So they will put some proprietary stuff in their repos. And apparently JoyPixels is licensed under a proprietary license. Now, proprietary fonts. Do people really care about that? Had I known it was proprietary, I might have looked for a different alternative. But I do know in DTOS, one of the font packages that I install out of the box is the Microsoft Fonts. I package that up for the DTOS core repository because I know the Microsoft core fonts are one of those font packages everybody installs.  Most of those websites were designed to use a lot of those Microsoft Windows fonts. So it's kind of a tricky situation. You know, are proprietary fonts the end of the world? No, not really. It's not like it's a proprietary program that's running some scripts or something on your computer that could be doing something nefarious like spying on you or mining for Bitcoin, right? It's a font. But still, would I prefer that to be licensed under a free license? Absolutely. So really, I think what I want to ask you guys are those of you that know about free and open source software movements, right? You know about free software and the four freedoms and you actually care about it. If you don't care about free and open source software versus proprietary, your opinion really doesn't matter on this. Well, I won't say your opinion doesn't matter. But if you don't care about it, then it doesn't matter. So the people that do care because those of us that do support free software, open source software, not all of us do it to the same degree. And many of us have different opinions on what's OK and what's not OK. Like I just said, I don't mind distributions shipping proprietary software if there's not a free and open source alternative. For example, if you were trying to make a Linux distribution that was a gaming Linux distribution and you wanted to ship steam installed out of the box, steam is proprietary. But if it's specifically for hardcore gamers, they're going to want steam and there's no free and open source steam, right? Steam is steam, it's proprietary. I get that. I wouldn't trash any Linux distribution for doing that. The problem I have is when distributions start installing stuff like Google Chrome as a default web browser, right, which is proprietary. I know it's the most popular web browser on the planet. But when we have such great open source browsers like Brave and Chromium and Firefox, LibreWolf, Kube browser, I've got a lot listed here. You know, there will eventually be part of this DTOS welcome application. I think GNU slash Linux distributions really need to be promoting the open source applications when they can. You know, if people want to install the proprietary applications, don't prevent them. Matter of fact, provide links to some of the popular proprietary applications for the people that really need it. I don't I don't want to prevent anybody from running proprietary software. It's just I would like to introduce more free and open source software to people where possible. But for those of you that support the free software movement, the open source movement, what are your thoughts? Are you OK with Linux distributions, shipping, proprietary software where there's actually free and open source alternatives that are viable? For example, there's many distributions that ship Google Chrome as a web browser out of the box. There's many distributions that ship proprietary office suites out of the box. And even though LibreOffice free and open source software is really good, you know, they go in these proprietary directions. And of course, I've made some compromises myself with DTOS. I have those Microsoft core fonts and the JoyPixels fonts installed out of the box, even though they're not licensed under a free license. If you care about the free and open source software movement, are you OK with my decision in that? Or if you're not, I mean, what is is there an alternative? Because there's no real alternative for fonts like the Microsoft core fonts. Many websites depend on those fonts to render correctly. Is it the end of the world of a website? You know, doesn't have the correct fonts and looks a little weird. For most people, no, but especially if it's a new to Linux user. And that's kind of what I'm thinking. People that have used to going to their same websites every day, day after day, and they expect it to look a certain way because they expect aerial and comic sans and all those Microsoft fonts to be there. Because the websites always displayed at a certain way. And now those those fonts are not on a system. And the website looks all jacked up and they're they're going to blame Linux. Oh, look, Linux, their web browsers, these free and open source web browsers, they can't even render websites right. So I'm a little torn again in some directions. I want to go. That's why I'm asking your opinion. Those of you that support the free and open source software movements. What are your thoughts about Linux distributions shipping proprietary software where there are free and open source applications available for an open source alternatives to those proprietary programs? Are there occasions where you think it's OK or are you more hard line? And hey, that's never OK. I want to know in the comments down below before I go. I need to think a few special people. I need to think the producers of this episode. 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Defensive line coach Terrell Williams is one of the most respected people within the walls of Ascension St. Thomas Sports Park. He's been a defensive line coach in college and in pros for nearly 25 years, but while he's good at his job, he's more than just a position coach. He's a guy who encourages people. He's a friend to people. He's an ear that the players feel like they have at all times and encourager. Well, this past winter, a knock on the door from Mike Vrabel added a formal title to his overall role.   Nothing's really going to change because of what you do already. You know, I don't, a title for me doesn't change who I am or what I do with this football team. I care about the football team. Anybody that knows me knows that I love these football players. He had more Terrell Williams news for the media on August the 7th, just five days ahead of the preseason opener at Chicago. Terrell Williams whacked as the head coach for Chicago starting on Friday. So I think this is a great opportunity for him and for us and everybody involved. Big T will handle that. Clint will handle the defensive line. The move was wildly popular with the Titans players. They and everyone else saw Terrell Williams ace his pregame press conference. He then blew away the broadcast crews in his production meetings. His defensive linemen, well, they see it every day, so they were not surprised. I know he's going to do a great job, you know, probably one of the moments he's been waiting for it, even though, you know, he is just for a weekend right now.  And then it was time for the game. Terrell Williams patrolled the sidelines at Soldier Field as the Tennessee Titans head coach. Let's go, Sammy. Let's go. Come on, dawg. Knock somebody back. I got to go down with my guys. The linemen. I got to go with my guys. Good. Good. Touchdown. Good job, boys. Good job. Jog it off. Run off. Hey, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Our ball. Our ball. Off it. On the ball. On the ball. That's Big T. Terrell Williams. And that was a special weekend for the Tennessee Titans for everybody who is around the team, loves the franchise. And for Terrell, he said it was just an amazing experience that you gave him the chance to have. Yeah, it was nothing that I gave him. He earned it. That's the most important thing that I want everybody to understand is and nothing's changed. Like he said, being the assistant head coach, he loves this football team, offense, defense, special teams. We're lucky to have them. We've got a great staff excited about the growth that we're all going to continue to make with this football team.


es come over and said, we thought you're going to do us a third one. When I knew you was fucked. He said, there's no way you was getting out of this, right? But two of them said, we thought you'd done us. Because that was why I hesitated. But if you want to be Jesse James or Jack Mezzarene, Jack Mareen, you have the cornings, you don't like that. If you want to be Dinninger, that's what Peter Scott used to say to me, they do you like Dinninger. He said, you'll get the Dinninger bullet. I said, yeah, but I ain't shot no one, Peter. I said, so why would he? He said, well, after what you've done, that's what my dad was worried about. He was saying, why don't you call it a day? You're in front. I start your life again. But I watched too many Jesse James films. I watched Dinninger. I watched The Great Escape. Oh, the only time I... Don't enjoy, he was... Well, Jack, John Dinninger in the USA. Yeah, I watched the following way, Johnny Depp. They do him from behind. And I've got to be honest with you, when then things used to happen, I used to feel a chill. And I watched Mezzarene in, I was in Birmingham. And he, at the end, I said, brilliant film, he's dripping in blood. And I sat there and I was a little bit phased. I remember thinking, because I haven't told you what the, yeah, sorry. I'm sitting there thinking, am I gonna end up like him? They're dripping in the blood, dead. So there was moments when I'm very, very confident, but occasionally like Dinninger film and all that, I'd think about it. They all get killed in people. And I aspire to them people, but I'm not as dangerous as them people.    Did you go through psychiatric reports or anything? No, nothing like that.  Why would you... There was nothing psychiatric about trying to get out. You've got to be mad, not so. So when you get to 15 strikes... I did have psychiatric reports for court, yeah. And the judge said, if you pursue it, if he says you're mad, I knew he said I wouldn't say it. He says, usually you're going to Broadmoor. I said he ain't gonna say I'm mad, something like that. So I did have him, but not with the prison. It was private sort of thing. So seeing you get your 15 strikes, did you have any chance to escape? Only the... Just when it started caught? Yeah, but what it was, when I got guilty, I had one more plan. When they let you off at the bottom of the hill, they're waiting for the next van. So it's the same trick with the thing.  And it takes a while before you hear any movement behind. So what I was gonna do, but he done it differently, he walked me right through to the cells. I was gonna say, I don't feel well. I was gonna, Jimmy had this trick when the police used to try and batter me. He said, I'm asthmatic. All right, so I was gonna do something like that.  And hope that as I run back to where the coaches are, the next coach is coming in, you know what I mean? It's about a one in 10 chance. So they never done it. When I got weighed off, it took me right away to the cells, which is what they should do. But they don't always do it, you see. It's the breaking of procedure where you argue to get a chance, but I never got another chance after that. But I don't finish off. I go, I go on one robbery and I shouldn't have done it. The scarce firm said we might get 300 lards or something like that. And this is after your 15th stretch?  I've got, I didn't go back on a home visit, right? So, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're doing your 15th stretch? I could have got the religion gone back or whatever. So, you know, I've only got like four months to do or something, right? But it's not so lack of intelligent because you're not on license. When someone like me, you're on license for, I've got a 15, you're on license for like seven years. So if you get in an argument, you're recalled back to the prison.   So it's worth it. But anyway, it went wrong on the robbery and what happened was I don't normally work with firms. I've just got smashed in the kite with a meekly, right? The kid, he didn't work out. And he missed the door. So we couldn't get to where the cash machines were. So there's a box coming out. There's probably no money in it, free ground. What should we do?  So he goes, I run the wrong way. I forgot where the car was. I mean, I've only been out days, right? I run back to the car. The geezer's decided to be a hero. I pulled him away. He's got a trolley. I mean, I don't understand why people do it. You know, the other kid's got a meekly, but I punched him, got him on the floor, getting the car and we drive off. You can't even get the box open, the kid, I'm with. Like they've got a way of knocking it from the boot of the car and it opens. There's different ways of doing it. I don't do that. I always make him open the box. So open the box. I don't do that.  None of that. It's open the box, pal. So all clarity. At the scene of the crime, I didn't know this. At the scene of the crime, there was no blood, but you would have thought there was. In the car, there was no blood, but where we left the car, there was all blood. And it was that, that done me. Yeah, me. Yeah, it done me. So I knew I was gone. So I'm thinking it's an, it's arguably an indeterminate sentence. I might get, I might get a five for that. I've got a six. I might get a five for it. And at the time, I thought you did the five for the five. When I get nicked, I think I'm looking, they give me a 16. When I got the 16, I thought I'm doing, if it had been an indeterminate, I'd have got 16 years. I thought you'd do the whole lot, but it's half. Anyway. So I go back, I'm fucked. They stitched my thing up for me. I've got a scar there. And I live with people and all that. Good people who live up all that. I can't tell you how lovely, like. Yeah, I love this guy. So people looking after me and my mate John. I've got to say he's named John Burnie. Like, heroic, you know, family and all different people looking after me.  And I'm like six and eight at the time, like that. Like, if they observe the gaffer a week, I'm not there. But they heard I was there. They took a few liberties, shall I say. Run me out of town.  So I go to, we're now getting towards the end of the story. Thank God. So I get to Blackpool and I have a bit of work. What happens?  I mean, I couldn't believe it. Claret, I get on a bike and I dump the bike but they find the bikes on my claret. So I'm sitting in a hotel, I've got a bottle of champagne. I'm looking at the TV all of a sudden. Russell, Russell, John McVickerson, Russell Grant. Wanted for a bit of work. Right, 25, he said for 25 for 25.  Wanted in Blackpool and I think here we go again. Right, so now I've got two bits of work. So I was thinking, it was just starting to phase the indeterminate sentence now. So all those years, I was thinking on my head, why did you not run? So now the Mezzarene films that, we're now in 2009. The Picasso Atmos is 1997, okay? So we've gone, I'll start out escaping in 86 and now it's 2009. So all the ag I've just talked, I've had and more.  But the people who supported me throughout and helped me all my life, I thank God for them people because some of them didn't know me and they helped me and they risked their liberty for me and they did think something like Mary, Tricky, John, Bob, one of them, Phil and all these people and their other people. So you end up in crime with 200 of you and 200 causes now and about here. The fact that you're in national press, it doesn't mean nothing because you look at a paper just yesterday's news. So when you're wanted, there's only 4, 500 people who know about you realistically and who care and out of them, there's only 10 or 20 who really care. And at the police, they've got other things to do but the ones who are hunting you, the key eight, they're the dangerous ones. So because of the Mezzarene film and the Dininger thing, I always thought, because I'm gonna run.  I mean, I can remember all the other things as a kid. I'm sort of a person, if I missed a panel, I wouldn't forget but you've got to be positive. So when I see the Mezzarene film and Dininger, which come out in 2008, 2009, it was 2009, I thought, could I end up like that? So I had an eerie feeling because I'm gonna run. When they come on me this time, I'm gonna run anyway. I have a bad feeling at four o'clock in the morning on a Wednesday, I think, go. It's never happened to me before. I didn't, then I had a bad dream. I go out in the morning, I'm on my bike and I see a bird, she had a barber and it's like in the Terminator film. When the Terminator sees the thing, it goes like that sort of thing. She went, she must be trained to make sure it's you. She sort of went like that. And as I drifted that way, she drifted that way and it was a cosy there but he was beyond the thing. She was the danger, she went like that. I skip around, get off. I've got a little trick from where I am.  I get a taxi, I go around, this is the mistake, I go around, there's no police there. So I thought, are you paranoid? I wasn't certain, I was meeting someone. I said, listen to me, don't come down. I said, because it's on top here. She went, I'm already down. Anyway, I go back to the gaff, all right? If you'd have said to that fraud mob, on that fraud mob, that was the best squad that hunted me. That ex-flying squad, that ex-murder squad. In my opinion, what I learned afterwards, that was cleverer but that was unlucky. I was lucky during that period because I was just lucky but I was also very observant.  You wouldn't bother doing that for most people but I would, right? So I'm thinking, if the day ever comes, I will run. So on the day, on this night, I've bumped into Big Jim, my mate. It's just how lucky I am. I ain't seen him in 25 years. He said, fuck, he can't believe I've had two bad, wanted, 30 grand reward, he wasn't 50 or nothing but it was 30 grand on crime watch. And they put me two weeks on the spin. You'll never see that.  They put me on the second week and it did throw me.  I never talk to neighbors. I go, I won't stay in the ghetto, I'm talking to neighbors because you can't read every paper, internet and all the rest of it. So they've done it twice on the spin. He wouldn't have got a lot of calls. They was trying to spook me so I moved. Anyway, months later, whatever. I'm in London and they get me. So, Jimmy's bird said to me, right, he's misses. She said, why don't you stay the night? I said, no, I'm going home, I was with someone. She was going back to the gaff. She goes back to the gaff early and I forgot my phone. I was supposed to ring them and say, is there any old building? When she got this, you knew, really got to their swagger. So now I'm going there about half hour later. So she later, I didn't have the phone. I've gone back, I thought I'm paranoid. So I go back. I thought the two people I see, maybe they was not Robbie's squad, but it was. So I go back. As I go back, the lights off and I left the light on special. I thought I see someone's head move back. All of a sudden, I'm pleased, don't move. So it's day of judgment time. Do I run?  But if you think about it for a 10 stretch, I've got to run. And he went to me. Is this something I lay down on the floor? Something, right? He said, something. I know I had me hands in my pockets. He went, take your hands out. You shouldn't have your hands in your pockets. They killed me.  He said, take your hands out of your pockets.  I went like that. He went, turn around and face the wall or something. And I just went, I thought, well, you've got to go for it. And I went for it. So I've rolled, I bolt. He don't shoot me. He's running after me. But what he done is training. He had to put the gun and use the taser. And I had these boots and I'd bought that week. These, like, from wherever, from down Chelsea way. I had to put these boots on. I always got trainers on. And I nearly put my trainers on that night. I fall because of the trainers. Because he said, I've got a taser on you and I can see the red light. I can't carry on running straight, but I should have done. He would have missed me. I didn't know this. So I do a left, he's going like that. And I'm thinking they'll be all running around the corner. So I never run back. I run that way. He got me by an inch there. It only just got me. So he would have missed me running, but I didn't know that. So if you've got someone running after you have a taser, just carry on running because they'll miss. So he tasers me. I screamed like when you're free and you drop your ice cream. So he's come over, it took the finger. He went, right, it took the finger. He's going through his procedure. Is he mad? I just thought, are you mad? I've got, I'm drunk, but I've got my thing. But he went, lay down on the floor and went towards him. In the depths, he says, he tried to grab his gun. I didn't, all right? I tried to hit him, but I wasn't sharp enough. I wasn't, I just wasn't sharp enough or brave enough or something. I wasn't determined enough, that's the word. It's not really, it's, it's being sharp. You know, you can't hit a sharp man. You know, I could have got him. And he, and this time he's done me again. He's done me in, right there, sent up. But this time he's bashed me. So he's got me on the floor, but I won't let him cuff me. So we're scuffling. There's no, no one coming from the flat. We're about 200 meters away. And he had to, like a static taser. He'd done me five times. Oh no, he stood up and he shot me. But he, this is why I know what I've got me. He's got me, he's aimed me from the back. He's got me there. The third one hit me there, right? I couldn't move. It freezes you, but it doesn't knock you over, right? He pulled it out and he's done me like that. He's done me another five times. And on the fifth one, I went, I can't, I said to him, I'll give in. I couldn't help it. I did about, I did five and three. I couldn't take nothing more.  But I've been fit, I might have been able to take another two, but I wouldn't have got away. They cuffed me, they come. They stood me up. And it's like the end of the war, isn't it? And they never read me my rights.  I could see him shaking up and he all stood by me. And he went silent. And I thought, you're gonna get an IPP.  And he went silent and they didn't hold me. And we just walked down very gracefully. And when I got to the van, they held me and I looked down and I see this pub. I make them ever see the street again. So I end up in court. And of course, I've got one more escape story, but I don't get away. I'm sitting with my brief, who's a man tuned in. She's been sent, they couldn't get up from London. And I see someone coming here. They let some people in. And I thought, I've got a chance of us. I just carried on talking, talking, talking. And when I knew he'd gone down to collect some people, right? I say, I'm off now. I see you there. She didn't know why I'd just cut the things there. It's the fellow went, do you want to cut the tea? He got the tea, give me the tea. As I went back to the cell, I thought, right, I've got off. I'm only guessing. I walked back, I go, right in his thing. I didn't do him in the boat race because you're right, didn't. You couldn't get life off for it. For a hot, scorched, cold and water. Very dangerous stuff in someone's boat race. So I'm pleased I didn't. And plus I didn't think he deserved it. You know, he was a little guy.  And the guy, the screw, just about the lock here, he knows he ain't got time. He ain't just jumbling. I go to the thing, he goes to the other side and they were like this. So I'm about 14 stone fit. No, for 30 and a half I'm fit. I'm probably about 30 and a half. So I'm going, and the woman and the guy that I've done the scolding, they just took a little bit of strength from me because he wasn't big enough. This guy's like you and me, you look about 15, 16 stone, something like that. In the push thing, you should get the better of me, but he was lighter than me. So it was going like that, like that. And on the third go, I couldn't do it. The big lump come done me. I'm like that. He locked it from the other side of the screw. I'm like, I'm like that.  So I said, well, I said, where am I going to escape? Right, he had my arm. I said, I said, see where that will carry me to the cell and he let me go. I went back to the cell and as that was my last, but it wasn't my last, it was my last attempt. It was my last attempt. So I never got another chance. So I go to, you know what I mean? I end up in, I go live before jail. I close the stories there, but it'll be on day. And I end up in a maximum security jail with Curtis Warren. So he's just arrived at the jail, right? Do you want to hear this story? It's a good story. So Ferris would tell you when you're seeing him. So you had a bad bad man. If I couldn't fire, I'd fizz it on this arm. I should call him the flying Scotsman. That's why I used to call him him, right? I didn't write to him from when those years ago, because he was a high profile guy.  I wouldn't speak to anyone who was ACAT. What was your sentence? When I got the 15, on the next one. Oh, sorry, I get the 16. So was I 16? Yeah, so I go to Liverpool before I tell you about Curtis, right?  And I said, you look happy, mate, right?  He went, yeah, he said, I was expecting a seven, IPP. He said, I've got a five, judge, judge, whatever. I said, what are you? He said, Robber. I said, I'm a Robber. He said, you should be all right. I told him, no, you're not gonna be all right, mate. Right, he couldn't believe it. He went, no, you're not gonna be all right. I only told him back to Robbers, but I think he knew who I was. And he went, no, you're in trouble. He said, I'm gonna tell you three judges to avoid. One was Swift, one was the Ed Gees that they was all terrified of. One was someone else. So when I went through the proceedings, you go up every month. The first one, I said, no, no, no, Swift dropped him out. The second one was the next one who gives an indeterminate. The third one is the next one. So I had not known and gone guilty. I would have got probably six years to do, but if you look back on all my prison, I don't work in workshops, I won't do this.  They would hold on to me for about eight years. So when I go, do go up. Judge Matt, Judge James, he said, I don't give indeterminate sentences. So I went guilty. Anyway, I'm now at Maximum Security. Curtis Warren arrives and he's supposed to be the best tennis player in the system.  He's a gang member from Manchester. He says, you can play a thing. Russell said, yeah, he's a mad gambler. Shaddy, right? So I am as well. We both gamble and everything on football and other things. He said, well, he thinks he's the best. I said, well, it's me or Keith Stewart are the best. Fat Northern who I never beat from Manchester. I love dealing, right? But I said, I'll have half-hands in it. So by the time we get back, there's probably hundreds of pounds of burn and more going on this thing. So I'm going to the gym the day before we're having the big match, me and Curtis. He says, you want a game, lad? I said, I'm going for a run. He said, what difference? I said, he said, we're going to play tomorrow. Why don't we just, it was a mistake on you. It was a mistake for him, right? We're going to play. It was the biggest mistake you ever made in his tennis career. We go down the gym, six, two to win. He's got the best forehand, he's left handed, and he's got the best forehand I've ever played against. But his backhand is not better than mine. His backhand. So he kills me. So I come back to the wing. I said, right, I'll settle after my debt. I said, I've got no chance for this guy. He said, he's mustered. I said, Curtis, well done, mate, right? He said, sorry, dad. I said, no, you're a different class. Fair play to us. I sat there that night. No one wanted to give mercy. Looking for a bit of mercy. No mercy at all, right? So all of a sudden, no one would. I said, I'm up for nothing. I said, well, what can I do that's different? I'll just put everything on his backhand. So we go in, there's Bronson. A geese are called a friend of Curtis's who's called Magoo. And another geese are refereeing it, right? Big Stan. Great boxer in the day from Gaston, I think, right? He would have beat me at tennis if it was the same, mate, he's a great tennis player. But he's a bit older than that, right? So they're refereeing it. Me and him, right?  I'm four-nil up, right? Every single shot, I'm not trying to win the shot over there. I'm putting it to his backhand. He's struggling a bit. And then I'll smash it over there. I'm four-nil up, I'm thinking I'm done. You know, the legend sort of thing, right? But it's a bit of a banter because I'm not as fit as him. So I play for time. I go like that and I kick the ball away as I go.  You know what I mean, right? I'm playing for time.  You're super fit. You can do rowing in under about 17 and a half minutes and he's not tall, right? You know, I can do a 20, but you know, I'm not practicing it. I can do a 20 without practicing, right? So I'll probably get down to 19, but I'll get that.  So he's super fit, but he's struggling all of a sudden. He's four-one, then it's four-two, then it's four-three. It's four-four, right?  And he's looking at me, right? We're changing every two games, right? I'm looking at the three, right? There's loads of people bet against him, not because they think I win, but because they want to take him on. They'd have to crack with him, you know what I mean? The bank don't know that, right? So it's the two-way splits, like about a grand either way. It's all different people. It's a massive thing in the jail.  It went, I went five-four, I was always one in front. And all of a sudden I thought, no, I've got him here. I've done him, right? I've done him. And then they called time. In the next set it was two-all, but whoever's winning, there's one. And he went, he says, you know, fair play to your lad.  And from that, we become very good friends. But I was always taken on with badminton, and badminton is a different kind of fish. I mean, I played tennis here, so I was 10. So did he, Curtis. But badminton, no. I always tried, and I got to draw every once. And had he gone a little while, 10 minutes later, he'd have won, but he always said, no, you've got to draw. So when we used to walk back, it's a quarter of a mile walk. So when we come back from badminton, right, he would always give me the jabber. He thought he'd come down here, lad, gonna do this, gonna do that. And it was funny with the banter.  Then he gets swagged, then he comes back. My eight years is up, and this is the last story. I used to play a guy called Colin Joyce, very good chess player. Beat him once, the 10th. He's the Goofs Gang alleged leader, right? And I knew Cabo used to play football with his co-team.  I've only got eight months left. I had a doc there, I thought, I wouldn't like it if, you know, it's a little bit, I was a bit vain about it.  It was like a thing, it was a thing. I didn't think nothing of it. So I got wax in my ear. So I go down to the thing. I said, I've been putting olive oil in it. Could you do the ear, please? Suzie, I don't know, she said, I'm not supposed to do it. I said, well, I said, like, yeah, come out straight away. Come out straight away, but she caught the nerve. Anyway, next day, I'm playing chess, and it's starting to swell up.  And then only went on for him for 100, 100 men went on for him, right? It's on the news and all this at the time. He was there. I said, John, you play him. He's my pal, John. So I was, do I see? Kurt is not there now, he's somewhere else. There's other people in the jail, you know. My wing has been in a lot of trouble. Hostage takings with screws and all that, right? It's a mad gaff. I'm the only person, Bcat, that kept it for eight years. No one had done eight years. The most of Bcat had been there for four years. So they dig me out because of the McVicar son and the escapes. But when I go there, I won't go down the workshop. So we're back to the dust. I took six nickings. I get a week's block. I get lose TV, canteen, all that. And in the end, they say, go education. So they swallowed. I was the only person and one other who followed the dust thing. So I was the only person who down the workshop wouldn't go because I don't care about a block. Don't bother me. So I had the first year there, or six months, I had a lot of trouble, right? And the people I have it with are high profile in the jail. So they don't like that either. You can't win with them.  So I should have got about a 13 totality of sentence. And it was a Giza called Kwami. He said to me, how long should you, well, I'll get to that in a minute. What happens is I go down to the doctors and I'd had a trapped nerve and it took about a year for it to go. And I lost all small muscles in my knee and I've got a knee injury. All had my ability to run. I can't run without my knee because of trapped nerve. They wouldn't do it at the MRI scan. So I'd murder with this doctor. So when I go down the healthcare, I've got billions of it. It rings up straight away. It says, hospital appointment. I said, but you don't give hospital appointments like that.  I said, he went, no. He said, I said, why? He said, could be cancer. So I go down the thing, they do a test. He said, if it's something wrong, we'll let you know, I didn't hear nothing. Then I had to go down to his eve. They did something else, a proper scan. Then I go into January. So I've got cancer. I never told no one, like in the prison I told. And I told my mate John and he told people in Liverpool which I didn't really want to do, but he did. But I never told anyone. None of my mates know. Why? Because I ain't really a sort of Giza. I mean, I just don't, Why are you saying prefer? No, what I thought was, I'm gonna die, I'm gonna die, I'm gonna live, I'm gonna live. I didn't, what I'm trying to say, when I got out, you know, I didn't tell anyone, I didn't have told anyone. And my mum, I didn't worry my mum. I just don't, I'm funny in certain things. I just couldn't be bothered going into it all. Anyway, I've got it. And on about the third visit to the hospital, they got me cuffed, but when you go in there to scan, you're on your own. You, there's no, you screws have to stand out because it's radioactive. So I said, we're going in there in a minute, take the thing off, he went, no. I said, can you use the toilet please? So I come out, single cuff, long cuff. He said, he said, I said, no, you're not putting me on the cuffs. So they jumped me, right? Not only did they jump me, right? Put me in the floor and all that, right?   They said, you're gonna miss your things today. You're, you're, you're, it's on my tongue somewhere, right at the base of the tongue on my neck somewhere, I don't know.  And this was true, but this would be a mistake on my part. You shouldn't take these people on. As Frankie Fraser and Gentry said, always be polite to them, don't. It's Fraser, don't give, he sort of said, don't give these people a chance, Russell, ever. Fraser started off with 10, done 20.  And they went Fraser, they just, you would think you'd be a cake, would all be frightened of them, they weren't. He ended up on hunger strike. And Rorschaw said, take them, take them to eat.   But they nearly killed him anyway.  So when I go the next day, they say you can have the two treatments. So that was reasonable.  I couldn't eat. This is the thing. So they put a tube in there and the feed, I was allergic to. So over the six weeks of treatment, that's the chemo once a week. But the other thing there, it was really robust, they said. I had a seven in 10 chance of living three out of 10 dying. I couldn't eat. I was allergic to the feed. I went from 14 stone, fit. It's a 10. So when people see me, sometimes in the morning, during the state of shot, because they might not have seen me for a while. I could see people's boat. And the woman come and they said, you've got a fight, I said, I'm fighting.  I said, I haven't got any energy. I said, but I know it'll contain me energy. I'm not losing energy. I'm all right. It can't be all right anyway. Around about June, I've got two months left to go. I'm now 12 stone. People come down to visit me, Terry Smith. Dave Armani, done 45 years. 45 years, killed someone in jail. He was going home on about 50 years, right? He used to bring me down for joy, so he'd do in a 42 stretch. But supposedly, he'd ganged down with Kimmings and all that.  He said, they said nine people have been in that cell and they've all died. They called it the death cell.  He said, the screws said he was gonna die.  So it cost me a grand, right? So he was great stuff. He was a really good friend. And I got out of jail on about 12 stone. And Rachel, who was one of the screws that jumped me, right, she come down and carried the stuff. She didn't say, sorry for what happened. I was pleased she did. I've known her eight years, right? But the other two geysers, anyway, carried my stuff. I was very weak. And as I walked out the gate, it was a security screw. He didn't say good luck or anything. Come, you know what I mean? You've done late threats. They didn't say good luck, right? But I didn't even look at him. It opened the door.  Who knew me, she knew I was going home.  You know what I mean? I know one screw there, Mr. Binning's leg, right? Doc's screw. There were screws there that awaited me and they would come down while I was in the hospital. So you're right, right? They showed a bit of sympathy, some of them. And when I get released, there's this dog's screw. When I come on the wing, he said, if you don't go down to the workshop, I'm taking you in arms. I said, take it. Do what you want. He said, because we're not having you laid down the law here. I said, okay, do what you want, right? And he got moved wings.  So this dog's screw, it was a right dog. When I had the cancer, he would come down once every two weeks. So I hope you do well. So it was a cunt, but when I was dying, I'll give him a mysterious thing. So as I go out, he discharges me. You know what I mean?  I couldn't shake his hand, you know what I mean?   But he'd come down. Others come down, four or five, and all my mates every day, right? So anyway, I was shattered. It was really difficult. So now I'm walking out the gate, right? So this is the last bit. See, 30 screws coming. I didn't recognize one screw. All of a sudden, there was one there I knew six years earlier. And I went to him, wait, governor. He's not expecting, it's a maximum security prison. You're not expecting anyone to come out. I'll never forget. He went, he couldn't believe it. He went, I said, I'm going home. And I did. Thank you for having me on the show. How's life been since you've been out? It's all right. And I'm not as fit as I was. And I'm not as sharp and, you know, a bit bored. But I don't do anything, you know. I don't have it with criminals. Long you've been out now, Russell. Five strips in a couple of months time. What about the relationship with your dad and that? When you came out? He died, what happened was? Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. Yeah, what it was, but the last letter I wrote to him, I said to him, listen, I wish you well. We were not me again. He had words, I had words. And I bumped into Lori Professor Taylor, who helped him in prison. And he said, I said, just tell him, I've gone straight. I mean, I didn't have a job or nothing. I ain't got a job now. But I said, I've gone straight. I don't do anything. Just letting him know that. He said, I tell him to get in touch with her. I said, no. We had our chance all through my life to get on.  But it would always say, like, you just fucking, you don't know when to stop.   She can not be out of code with this. This is before the robberies.    That was the problem. And once I said, I won't speak to him again. I didn't.  And had I known that, I thought he was doing well. I would have gone and seen him. That's different because he was struggling. And he's my dad. And I love him. I would have gone and seen him. But I thought he had, you know, chunk of time this out. Now I'm not one in people if we fall out. That's kind of it, you know? And we, I said, we've had 25 years to Lori. So we've had 25 years to beat pals. And we ain't. So I'm not going to start being his pal now.  But I said, I'm always seeing will. How hard does that look? So when you see somebody involved in the life of crying robberies on the run, making films, very high profile, famous and then seeing them by a loan. Like, does that worry you that that could be you? No, no, that doesn't bother me because I believe in heaven. I believe in an afterlife. So it doesn't bother me death. I've never been frightened of death. Why do you think that is? Because when I was six, I thought there was an afterlife. That's the bottom nine. I remember thinking there's a god and there's an afterlife. So I don't care about death. I don't care about death. That doesn't mean you say you can't frighten me. You couldn't fright me with death. So I was disappointed when I never run the first time. It done me because I thought you must have bottled it. But it wasn't. It's a two-essential nervous system. You've got to keep that sharp by keeping balance early nights. When I was on the run for the Picasso, I was a machine, no girlfriend. No contact with anyone. But I altered it the last year. When I come back, I altered it for the last year and it made a difference. But two years away, it never come close to me apart from when I made the mistaken leads. What I've noticed through your story as well with the escapes and prisons, there's always, when this came on top, you've always been drunk. Exactly right. I haven't got alcohol problems this life. You're bearing the rule over the place. You're not as sharp as you should be, especially on the throw-up. Put this way, you wouldn't do a, you wouldn't, this is what I say if you're on the run. You wouldn't do a marathon or go on a boxing ring drunk. So if you're on the run, don't get drunk even one night because that night is when the place might arrive. Yeah, the couples only need to get lucky once. Like you say, hella, you've been lucky a few times. I've been lucky many times. As soon as they're lucky, you're done. You're doing a 15 stretch or a 16 stretch. What about your mum, Russell? My mum, she worried over the COVID and all that. So I see my mum, you know, quite a lot. She started leaving real? Yeah, she's very fit. My mum, her dad lived to 100, her grandmother, lived to 99 and I knew the grandmother as a little boy. So my grandma, my nan, big woman, she lived to 30. My dad's nan lived to about 80. So I'm bigger. I thought my dad might live to late 80s. He was still running, shadowboxing, living in a caravan. If I'd known he was skinned and on his own and cold, I would have gone and seen him. Has there ever been temptation that you've been out walking past a bank or seeing something you think, mm. I'll tell you what it is, right? I, you know you can go and get one score, but that's what got me in trouble for the second time. Is it like an addiction? No, it's not an addiction, but you know it's easy. So anyone who does anything, shoplifting or anything, but I got in trouble because I give it one more go and I lost blood, lost a big scar there, right? And had I, when I didn't get, I could have got the IPP. If I don't bump into the geezer, the gas geezer, and he tells me about the three judges, I'm probably just finishing off now. I wouldn't have been out in the last five years because they would have said, you've got to do seven. But because I won't go to workshops, because I argued in my case and I've smashed screws and all that. Apart from that one screw kicked, I've hit a screw.  It'd be, well, the three people are right sure because he said to me, the nurses come from the Mount Nurse. He said, right, he was in Broadmoor. Please, you turn it into night and we're going to kill you.  He said, I knew that was it. You reach your limit with Fin Bronson, never reached the limit. I've heard him from the block. He could say it's him, but John Inazzi, who I supply chess with, it was on that program about a full saturn. He's my pal. And I always knew, he's probably the most, everyone was very careful of this guy. He's 20 stone, he's a boxer, but he's handy in all sorts of ways. And they beat me 17, 16 in a game of chess over years. He, when I'm in the hospital, two days before I go home, screws come and he said, John's gone into one. I see a screw out the window. I thought, what's he doing? That's not a place they stand, but the whole prison had been cordoned off. John smashed, cut the screws, battered them, three screws, burnt the kitchen down, smashed other things up, and they waited until there was a hundred men. That's what a consulman, that's what I see on TV. They waited to a hundred men. And when he come on, he lost his training shirt, put it back on, got one punching on the shield, and they'd done it, and they would have more, just killed him. But that's only one incident. So maybe Roshaw, maybe Bronson, I never met Bronson, I heard him shouting. John Inazzi's very brave and billy gentry. And you don't know nothing about billy gentry, right? But billy gentry had done 18 out of 18, and they'd done the first finger pop self-wrap, and Fraser, they're the ones that I've met, and I am. My dad had a rule, but he wouldn't go to them limits. He wouldn't go to those excesses.  You want to be a prison tough guy, you've got to be able to take a strip cell, block for years, and a beating. Those five people can take it, and I admire them people. I was always stopped before that point. You don't want to go down that road.  But block, I know swear, you put me in a block for two years, I laugh at you, don't get me. I don't care about any, I don't need nothing. I don't need a PlayStation. When I was away, when it was slot buckets and all that, nothing, now you've got TV. Toilet stations, shower. And a phone. So, there's nothing to really create about for me, but someone like poor Charlie, it's all the profession of violence. If you're a robber, you understand how to rob. Maybe some of the guards I've done, they would have beat me in a fight.  I can't explain it, you know when to answer, whatever.  It's all, you know, they sometimes have problems with people. So it's all different types of case fighting, knows his job, a boxer knows his job, a knife man, a gunman, they all got different, they all wired a different way. I'm wired to escape and rob. That's it, that's what I know. And from a kid and gamble, I don't gamble now, but I gambling in my spirit. And I know how to take a chance and a risk. And my only advice to people, if you're young and don't take, don't let it escalate. When my dad started off with an eight, it was a no one. When he went 23, he would come 26. And if you can get a broad, get a broad, but it's very difficult. But the end line for a wanted man, just as James, it's a bullet in the head or a bullet in the back. It's all these people, if you push the limits, if Bronson had been a robber, Bronson gets ironed out. But he's not a robber. He's a man of violence in prison. He understands to an extreme. So he's probably the bravest man in that sense. He's an astonishing man and they'll kill him. What do you think Russell will look back in your life? I know someone from the Andrews. She's a really good friend of mine. She says, I'll probably tell her about his program one night.  I'll say, I'll do it all again. I'll do it all again. Because the people I met, I can't tell you like the people I met. Oh, this is the other thing. So call me, says to me, had you got the 13 or had you got out a year earlier, would you have gone straight to the hospital without it? I said, no. It was only because I got the bit of wax from being in the cell and it was a fruit.  Do you see what I'm saying? Because I wouldn't have gone to the hospital. I wouldn't have trapped the nerve. So, but getting back to your question, as I say to someone, no, I wouldn't change it because I met people like he's called Rob Riley, he was my friend from Doncaster, Bambi, Hamster, people who was funny, Richard Delaney, people who were funny, Leggy Parnell, he used to do rescue, choke me to death.  That's what prison's about. It's the wing you're on. And I was blessed by being with people who were funny and can roar and will stand up to the screws. And I was around people like that. And if I'm rich, it's the people I met in jail and the people on the truck who helped me.  My people I met in jail and on the run, I give them 10 out of 10. I'm blessed to have met them people and I thank God for that. I really do. And I say that humbly. It was a great honor to meet them people. So I'm not gonna put them back at the clock and say, don't do that. Do it all again. But I wouldn't want to see someone else do it all. Because I could have got killed. Where do you go forward for the future? What's your plans? I know. I really got a plan. Just take it day by day, try and stay out of prison. I say the probation. I said, well, I ain't robbed no where ever. You know, don't get tempted by anything.   Like, she sometimes says to this, she says, oh no, no. If he's gonna do something, we ain't gonna stop him.  But what a liby it would be if I went back on the pavement. Because one, they'd life me off. And two, it'd have to be, I think they'd check me as a ring film, I said, out of dead.  Don't let me out on 10. I'll do a 20. I'm late 50s now. I'm an old codger. But I'm still a bit lively. But I can't run on my legs. I'm not as lively as I was. And my trick was being able to get away quick. And if it went wrong, run. You know, I've had chases. I don't get nowhere near me. Because I have a route and I'm gone. And it was, you know, I don't lose motorbikes on that game. I don't work with ferns, but I did on that one occasion. And unlucky for me. So to go again would be not right. And it would be. So I say, though. Well, you may not get caught. Ha ha ha ha ha! It's like the marble. It's like the marble. You might not, but once I'm trying. I might not get caught. So, but what I'm trying to say is, if I did, it would be like, I've had my last chance. You know, along the way, maybe I could have got killed. But that was professional. They never killed me. But that was the way they would. I'd buy the way the flying squad weren't allowed. When I got down in Southampton, they never had guns. Because, because of that, I said, no, you people are dangerous. It's just something like your reputation procedure. You're not having guns here. And they've done it themselves in Southampton. If it had been the flying squad, I don't think they'd have shot me, but if I did the wrong move, they would have done. Because you get one chance with them.  And I can tell you stories, like terrible stories about people who have been shot dead. So I know these stories. Gary Wilson was nicknamed, he's a come out. He went like that. They shot him dead. So Easterbrook, he's arguably very brave. He come out as a 56 year old man with his gun and shot him. And he said, they bottled it. The bullets were missing, but they shot his finger off. So would I go to them levels? You can't say you would. Because most people, when they get surrounded, they go like that. But Dillinger wouldn't. Mezzarene wouldn't. Jesse James wouldn't. Not that he got done that way, got done in the back. All them people, but they all end up getting caught. And some of them get killed, but that's the history of crime in the world. You don't really win in the end, I don't think. Not robbers. They're too, they're wild robbers. They've got something wild in them. They're different drug dealers. They've got a different mind. I like robbers. They're my favorites. I love the stories about Jesse James. Mezzarene, Dillinger, but the killers, you know. If it comes on, they're killed, but at least they'll never shoot out with armed police. For anybody watching, I thought it was maybe wanting to get involved in a leaf of cream. I'd maybe want to start robbing. What advice would you have for them? If you get caught once, don't go again. I wouldn't say, I'm not wanting people with sister people, don't do so. I'm not into that reform thing. If it's in your spirit, to rob or shoplift, burgle, fight, whatever it is, but if you're on the run, you cannot think of family. You have to think of yourself. You don't go jail and say, I've got to be good for my family. You should be good for yourself. You get at one life, make the most of it. And I've met people in jail, the people I respect, they turn their life around. But on a free stretch, it's hard. You go in, you come out. You go in, you come out. On a 15, I would say, if you get a 15 or a 10, you've got, if you're away for five or six years, you can turn your life around. You can learn things. But I've learned quite a lot. I've got a degree, can't get a job with it. But what I'm saying is, you get a chance to turn your life around on a long stretch, but don't go again. You don't do what I've done is what I would say. If you want to go, good luck to you, wish you well. But don't go the second time because you could, gentry done three big arm robbery things. He done an 18, a 10 and a six all behind the door. I would be another one of him if I went again. So I can't go again because I've been given a chance. So I won't rob ever again. That's it, finished. Nice to meet you.  It's a rollercoaster, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. I genuinely wish you all the best for the future. And over in talks, we find things in the pipeline in the future. So hopefully we can get things sorted for you.  No doubt there's so much more that information you can give. You've got twice as a lot, but drive your mad. Don't want to bore you to death. I'm sorry, it took up so much of your time. Listen, man, I've enjoyed it. I know the listeners will love this. So listen, thanks for coming on a date and telling your story. I wish you all the best and take care, brother. Thank you very much.


Today is June 20th, 2023, Largo, Argentina as a site is open officially today. You're allowed to come down now on these new walkways that have been inserted, which is financed by Bulgari, and we have four temples of Largo, Argentina finally once again accessible to the public. We'll take a quick tour through, and of course the tourists are here, and of course there's a museum space as well. Right next to the archaeological park, our tour starts here at Torre del Papito, which is a nickname after the Antipope Anacletus II of the 12th century, and it's right here you get your ticket and you can get a new site publication. It's a wonderful place to start your tour. Here are the remains from the decoration of the church of the 15th century that stood on top of Temple A. We descend down this nice narrow staircase, but if you need help with a stroller or wheelchair, there's also a nice elevator. Hey, this is Darius Aria for Ancient Rome Live. We are here in Largo, Argentina. We are all around Ancient Rome. We are all around the Roman Empire. It's an opportunity for you to learn so many new things about Ancient Rome, the Roman world around the Mediterranean, come and follow us and subscribe. First thing we should do is admire this incredible walkway, floating above the original ground level, giving us plenty of access to the archaeological park. But you might be wondering, where are the cats? The opening is extraordinary because we have access to these four temples. The cat sanctuary in the corner still exists. The cats are still here. Let's start off with the plan of the campus marshes. We have our four temples of Largo, Argentina hemmed in by many other structures. To the east, we have the Porticus Manucha, place for grain distribution. To the west, the mighty remains of the theater of Pompey, including the courier of Pompey where Julius Caesar was assassinated. Here's a reconstruction of those four temples. The Porticus of Manucha, you can even see the theater of Balbus. It's a crowded neighborhood. The oldest temple in the sanctuary is Temple C, and it's attributed to the goddess Faronia, a Savine deity, dedicated by Manlius Curius Dentatus in 290 BC. It was followed shortly thereafter by Temple A. This is attributed to the goddess Gerturna, dedicated by Gaius Lutatius Caculis. Temple A, like Temple C, was dedicated as a result of a victory, and you use the spoils of war, the Minubii, to build a victory temple. The next temple is Temple D. It's the largest in the sanctuary, possibly dedicated to the Lades. It dates to the early 2nd century BC. The last temple is squeezed in between temples A and C. It's the temple of Fortuna on this day, vowed after the battle of Versailles in 101 BC by Quintus Lutatius Caculis. But what really captures the imagination is the structure behind Temple B. These are the remains of the courier Pompeyana, where Julius Caesar was assassinated on the Ides of March, 44 BC. The remains behind Temple B are poorly preserved, but we can see on this map it's number 3, and it gets erased in antiquity, replaced by latrines number 4 and number 5. So public latrines replace the courier of Pompey and behind here Temple A, we can actually see just how large that public latrine actually was. To the east of the sanctuary, we have these pillars made of tuffe, faced still with plaster that belonged to the Porticus Manucha. We have the remains of the colonnade of the Hecostylon, to the north of the 4 temples of Larga Argentina, beautifully preserved, dating to the imperial period. Then you have the devastating fire of ADAD that goes through the campus marshes. We're going to have as a result the laying of new pavement. So you have the original pavement in tuffe, and now on top of it is laid in the reign of Domitian, pavers of Travertine stone. This is the remains of a residence of the 8th to 9th centuries AD, and then you have the creation in Temple A of a church, and it's dedicated to Saint Nicola, at least by 1132. And here we have some of the remains of later frescoes of the church. Next the archaeological site of course is Torre del Papito, a nickname of the Antipope and Eclatus of the Pirleone family, so it's their tower that eventually passes into the property of the Cesareni family. And of course, along with this tower, it's the Cesareni church of Saint Nicola, which is then demolished in the excavations between 1926 and 1929. This is when the great discovery was made of the archaeological park of the temples. All these ruins that we can explore today, and it's not just the architectural remains, it's also incredible sculpture, like this colossal acrolithic statue of Fortuna that comes from Temple B now in Montemartini Museum. Now let's take a tour. A quick walk through this site, some medieval structures on one side of the walkway, but I'm walking past the oldest temple, Temple A, which becomes the church of Saint Nicola, and you have a lot of different routes that you can take. Shops are inserted here in the imperial period, and then we get to Round Temple B, which is the youngest of the four temples here in Larva Argentina. You can see it's spacious, you can see you've got a plenty of opportunity to explore and wander around, look at the various artifacts. In the hustle and bustle of Rome, Temple B to Fortuna of this day, here's Temple C, it's the oldest, along maybe to the Temple of Fortuna, along with Temple A maybe to dedicated to Giotorni, and finally Temple D, the biggest temple that's actually partially underneath the road, there's Temple D, or we can also go right inside. I'm here in front of Temple D, it's the largest of the four temples in the Larva Argentina area, and this is a place that was forever inaccessible. Today it's part of the experience in the Larva Argentina Archaeological Park, and you can see the rest of the staircase, what's up on top of us, it's the sidewalk, and it's the road, but now we get a sense of just how massive this temple actually was, probably dedicated to the lares, possibly dedicated to the nymphs, and next to it is the Temenos Wall, telling us it's the end of the sacred precinct. Temple D is also where you have the cat sanctuary, it sits on top of the podium in the back, it still exists today. Now here you just don't have the archaeological site, you also have in this very long corridor a new museum space, and it's going to give you insights into the history of the site, from antiquity all the way through to the Middle Ages, and it truly is an extraordinary experience, and this has to be on your list of places to go, if you really want to understand the layers of history, we're in the epicenter of the campus marshes, we're down the street from the Pantheon, and we have of course on the backside of the archaeological site, this site where Julius Caesar was assassinated in the Coria of Pompey. The Pantheon contains several statues, this might be one of the goddesses of the temples, this one has been linked to the goddess Faronia of temple C, we have many other statues, many other dedications here, we're able to see just how this storeroom area has become an extraordinary museum, there's lots of decoration of the temples on display, also lots of dedications like this one to Vespasian, and finally the Middle Ages is well documented even the reuse of marble for a pavement of the medieval church. It's like a dream folks, we've been documenting this for years, and Largantina is now open, I'm here at temple A which also becomes a church to San Nicola, it's marvelous to be here, it's marvelous to explore these locations, these four temples, and more, the museum space, it does not disappoint. So come and get it, come to Rome, come and explore Republican Rome, come and explore the pavement that's laid after the fire of AD, AD, and get to know another section of the campus marshes. 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Amina. All right. Dave, whenever you're ready, then thank you, Dave. Good to go. Excellent. Good afternoon. This is convening of the Massachusetts Gaming Commission. It's Monday, July 17th. We're holding this meeting virtually. So I'll do a roll call. Commissioner O'Brien. I am here. Commissioner Hill. I'm here. Commissioner Skinner. I'm here. Commissioner Mayard. I'm here. OK, and today it's a public meeting number 467. As I mentioned, it's Monday, July 17th. And we are anticipating going into as an executive session to discuss interim executive director contract discussions. But to do so, we do have to have a vote. The commission anticipates that it will meet an executive session in accordance with GL Chapter 30A, Section 21A2 to conduct strategy sessions in preparation for negotiations with Todd Grossman, excuse me, for the position of interim executive director. Do I have a motion? If we don't move, we won't go into executive session. Is there a reason why no commissioner is choosing not to move? Because it's a public session, so we should have a discussion. I move to go into executive session as for the reasons discussed by the chair. OK, do I have a second? Second. Thank you. Commissioner O'Brien. I. Mr. Hill. I. Commissioner Skinner. I. Commissioner Mayard. I. And I vote yes, five zero. So we'll go into executive session in the way that this works. Commissures, as you know, is that we'll go from this virtual format to the on the calendar, where there is calendar entry for executive session. We'll go into that and Grace has set that up. She's nodding her head. We do not anticipate having to return to public session. So Dave Souza can, I think, just pause out, right? If for some reason we had to convene, we would, I guess, make that arrangement or should he hold that open? Commissioners, it's up to you. We can. We do have the option of if we did need to reconvene, we could jump back into this existing meeting link. And we would have the option of being able to kind of start the stream back up. It would just it would basically be like it were paused for a very long time. OK, should. And so there won't be a screen saying possibly returning or a screen would be helpful to have a screen that says we do not anticipate returning. But if we do, we would just have to stay on the stream itself. So that way would be shared. So it just depends on what the commission would like. Let's do what we've done in the past. It seems to be working just fine. Is that I'm turning to counsel. Is that OK, Dave, Amina? Amina, we've lost, I think. Oh, yes. No, that sounds that sounds perfectly appropriate. OK, great. So, Dave, if you just want to let Amina know that we've gone into the second session, he can join us in that link. That would be great. So that's a separate link. It is. If you go to your calendar, Grace, did you send it to Dave as well? The separate. I did. I can text it to you right now, too. Oh, that'd be great. Thank you very much, Grace. OK, great. Thank you. Everybody else set. All right. Thanks.


Nestled in southern Hickory County, deep in the Missouri Ozarks, lies the beautiful Pomme de Terre Lake. This lake was completed in 1961 by the Corps of Engineers. The lake was designed to be a part of a comprehensive flood control plan for the Osage River Basin, but it has developed into much, much more. We have boating, swimming, fishing, hunting, and camping. Pomme de Terre has become an outdoor recreation paradise for Missourians and visitors from all over. Construction of the Route 64 bridge over the Lindley Creek Arm of the Lake near Nemo, Missouri, was completed in 1960. The bridge, sometimes referred to as the Nemo Bridge, is a major artery for access to the local marinas and businesses, which cater to visitors year-round. Approximately 2,300 vehicles cross the bridge every day. Eventually, normal deterioration took its toll on the bridge deck, compelling MODOT to take action. However, the project team was faced with several challenges. The decision was made to use the casting place method to replace the bridge deck. The problem with doing this was that the construction period would be two years and would overlap through a winter month. The 1,684-foot length and the narrow 22-foot width would complicate traffic handling during construction. Weight and lane width restrictions would not allow fire trucks, ambulances, school buses, and large recreational vehicles to use the bridge during replacement of the deck. The shortest state route detour was approximately 31 miles in length. The local communities and surrounding area depend heavily on tourism, and the public was very concerned about the length of time their lives and businesses would be disrupted. Dave O'Connor, our district maintenance bridge engineer, had attended a precast concrete conference. At that conference, he came up with some ideas that he thought could be applied to the Route 64 bridge project. At that conference, there were several presentations that dealt with the rapid replacement of decks and superstructures. Watching these and seeing the fact that other states had been able to get this done, it seemed that we should be able to do something and this may be the perfect case to put that into practice. I came back to the district after the conference and after a short period of time, I took the information that I gained there and I went to the project development engineer, spoke to him. We discussed it and came to the conclusion between ourselves that this at least should be pursued and researched as to its applicability to this particular bridge. He forwarded the information and the idea to the consultant on this project, HNTB. As soon as we talked about that concept that really got me interested and we started looking into it a little bit more. We were already done 90% completion with the plans so it was a slight backtrack. So we were a little bit hesitant but then we saw this opportunity to cut down the construction time from two years to almost six months with practically no inconvenience to the traffic. We jumped right on it to go ahead and do the more research. We sat down with the contractors, we sat down with precast fabricators, we also talked with the university professors and to evaluate to see if this concept could be applied, the material availability was there to go ahead and take that concept to the reality. A casting bed 29 foot wide by 360 foot long was built on a nearby abandoned quarry just south of the project. Unlike building a regular bridge deck in place where long lengths can be ready for pouring the concrete, this job required 164 individual 10 foot panels. For panel construction jigs were made to help place the two layers of reinforcing steel. Then eight tubes had to be cast into the concrete to hold the PT or post tensioning bars that would secure the panels together. Foam block outs were needed to create pockets where shear studs would connect the panels to the structural steel girders. Pockets were also needed around the ends of the PT bars to allow for tensioning after the panels were set. Later the pockets would be filled with grout. A process called match casting was used. After the first panel was poured the forms were removed from the edge that would butt up to the next panel. The adjoining edge had the concrete for the second panel poured against the keyway that was originally formed in the first panel so that the pieces would fit together perfectly. The joint between the two panels had a release agent applied to it so when the concrete cured they could be separated. Each adjacent panel was formed in the same way until the pieces for that continuous span were complete. To get the panels apart on the casting bed two hydraulic jacks were used to push against the pipes stuck in the shear studs block outs of the opposing panel. The panels were boomed off the casting bed and stored until needed at the project site. This casting practice was done five times for each continuous section of bridge which ranged from 270 foot long to 350 foot. The bridge's new deck would consist of 4.4 million pounds of precast concrete panels. I think the job was a success basically because MODOT really doesn't run casting yards quite the way this one was run. It was run a lot more like a construction project and it went basically flawlessly. We had a few kinks along the way but overall 164 and only one bad is a pretty good ratio. To speed up the setting CC&G built six temporary 10 foot bridge spans using small steel eye girders and open steel great deck to match the decking removed. They were built to match the 27 foot width of the new deck panels so the only width transition was from the temporary deck to the existing deck. Pieces were put in manually every night to make a smooth transition from the pre-installed guardrail on the temporary deck to the old guardrail. The temporary decking it allowed us to have more of an assembly line type construction rather than the deck crew waiting on the demolition crew and then the grouting crew waiting on the decking crew and one had to be completely done before the other could start. By utilizing the temporary decking and temporary railing we were allowed to close the bridge at 7pm and a lot of nights we were setting new deck panels by 8.30. The deck is held in place by steel shear studs welded to the top of the eye girders. The concrete was poured over the rebar and the shear studs which connected the deck to the girders. This design is called composite construction which helps the deck work with the eye girders superstructure so that the bridge can hold more weight. These studs had to be located and concrete around them removed. Large concrete saws were also used to cut through the 7 inch thick deck and the curbs to get them in movable sections. Then a crane would lift out the old deck. The tops of the girders were cleaned off and the old shear studs removed. Finally fast drying epoxy paint was applied to the tops of the girders. The crown of the roadway was formed into the concrete deck panels on the casting bed. When the panels were placed on the four girders the height or haunches over the girders had to be set and the difference filled in with fast setting high strength grout. Columbia Kirkman gutter came up with several ideas that helped the job go along. One was an angle iron support system to set the panels on. It acted as a formwork for the grouting operation. They'd set them down to the template on them, raise it to grade, get them right, set the panels on and they were ready to go. Slow setting epoxy concrete glue was used on each matched face of the concrete deck panel before the bar for post tension to seal the joints. Then either two or three of the new panels were tied together with PT bars. There are eight PT bars across the width of each panel that needed to be tensioned to 90,000 pounds per bar. The bars were tensioned two at a time using special hydraulic jacks until all were tensioned. Two jacks were used to tension the bars to keep tension equal across the face of the concrete sections. After the panels were set, new shear studs were welded on the top of the girders through the block outs left when casting the panels. Last, the haunches were grouted through the shear connector pockets each night after the panels had been post tensioned. The grout was required to reach 4,000 psi strength. The grout set up within a couple of hours so that the deck could be opened to traffic at 7 o'clock a.m. the next morning. After each span of bridge deck was installed, the contractor came back and filled the block outs around the PT bars with grout. The contractor reused the old posts and channel rails as a temporary guard rail from the new deck panels to the original guard rail. He also added a bottom rail to protect the rebar cast into the panels for the new concrete barrier curb. After all the deck panels were set in place, there were closure pores needed between the continuous spans at the piers. These concrete pores were done on the bridge where expansion joints were being replaced and filled in the gaps between the end of the deck panels and the expansion joints. These pores were done one lane-width at a time and then covered with a steel plate allowing traffic to pass over them. Once these closure pores were in place, the permanent reinforced concrete barrier curb was poured by the slip form method. The barrier was started on the west end of the bridge even before all of the panels had been finished being placed on the north end just before Labor Day. The remaining rebar for the top of the barrier was tied during the day and the concrete poured at night. A one and one half inch thick silica fume modified concrete overlay was placed as the final wearing surface. This overlay would keep any water and salt from getting into the precast concrete panels and would also even out the riding surface of the bridge. It was placed half a deck-width at a time to allow one lane of traffic to be open while the concrete cured for seven days. It was also placed at night to make sure the special silica fume concrete could be placed, finished, and initially cured correctly. Silica fume is a very fine powder that is a waste product from making electronic grade silicon that is used in making computer chips. The silica fume powder, with particles as fine as cigarette smoke, is substituted for some of the cement in the concrete and fills in all the pores in the mix, making it very dense and impervious to water and chloride ions and salt, which can deteriorate the concrete. The first two precast deck sections were placed on the south end of the bridge on Sunday night, June 27, 2004. Thirty foot of old deck had been removed the week before and replaced with temporary bridge deck sections. The last six precast panels were set on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 to finish the job two nights earlier than allowed by the contract. The first section of the one and one half inch thick silica fume overlay was placed on the southwest end of the bridge on the night of September 7, 2004. CCNG actually used 53 of 66 nights allowed in the contract to completely close the bridge from 7 o'clock p.m. to 7 o'clock a.m. on Sunday through Thursday from Memorial Day to Labor Day. There was almost no disruption to boat traffic since the channel was only closed at night when the barge had to be in the channel. When the bridge deck overlay and approach pavements are complete, the partial closings will be done, allowing unimpeded traffic before November 30, 2004. This will complete the project in less than one season with only a limited effect on busy vacation traffic. It will deliver a wider driving surface and a thicker deck, which should last for 30 to 40 years. This project would have taken at least two construction seasons of one-way traffic on the bridge if the deck had been repaired in place using conventional methods. I think this project, like you say, is about to wind up. I think it was a huge success. It did what we hoped it would do. Yes, I think it can be used in the future. If the circumstances are right, this bridge had an extraordinary length and narrow width, so traffic could not be shifted over while you cast in place. So maybe another bridge similar to that, this would be a good procedure to use. And another reason I think it was a huge success is the reaction we got from the community of the barge. When this project started, MODOT was very good to the community for having public meetings and explaining how everything was going to come together. And everyone was allowed to ask questions and they got the answers that they were hoping for. The bridge has never been shut down except at night, so therefore everyone was able to do their daily routine of business. Our visitors were able to get to our resorts, motels, our campgrounds. And at our last chamber meeting everyone felt that they had seen no disruption at all. We're very excited about this concept and really taking that to the reality. And I hope this becomes the future standard in the industry where we can do this thing overnight and try to cause the least inconvenience to the people and the community.