We can win this war. We can win this war? OK, well joining us from Orlando, Florida is the man in that clip, Anthony Dream Johnson, who says he wants to abolish feminism and make women great again. No, but it also says, with the trademark, make women great again, always great. Make women great again. They're going to do a three-day seminar for women led by all men. In mansplaining news, a three-day conference for women led by men hopes to make women great again. How the 22 convention will make you the greatest you ever. Raise your femininity by 500%. First of all, how is a man supposed to tell a woman how to be the ultimate woman? Well, women need to be taught how to be great again. Oh, yes, we do. How to land a husband. How to lose weight.  Why do men problems of women? Well, it says the world's ultimate event for women. In Orlando, Florida, that's going to be the scene of the crime. It's mansplaining platoosa. And say no to the toxic bullying feminist dogma. Taught by men to make women great again. Taking the stage now is the founder of the 22 convention you're in for a treat, Mr. Anthony Dream Johnson. Anthony Dream Johnson. Anthony Dream Johnson. The first president of the Manosphere. It's run by all men, which promises to, quote, make women great again. This course is guaranteed to raise your femininity by 500%. Together, we will make women great again. Excuse me, I'm mansplaining here. She said there's nothing wrong. And welcome back to the 22 convention for that being held for the first time ever at 21 Summit 2020 in Orlando, Florida. Our next speaker is now our returning speaker to the 21 convention stage over here where the 22 conventions will be his first time at 21 Summit. He's actually a huge YouTuber with over 150,000 subscribers from around the world, mostly men but some women too. And before he actually was a coach for men, which is a big thing for him now, he's been an almost lifelong coach for women. Coach for women's basketball in high school and college for over 16 years. And now life has come full circle. He's back to coach women again. So without further ado, please let me welcome for the first time ever to the 22 convention stage, Coach Greg Adams. Look, sir. I'm going to take all questions towards the end of the presentation. So if you have questions, please write them down. And I'll be happy to talk to you. How are you guys doing with all of this femininity in the United States? Everybody love it? Men are leading the charge in femininity. They have taken over where you have abandoned it. There's more men being feminine and accepting and being happy about being feminine. And women are assuming the masculine position. Now, I'm going to tell you how we got here. I'm going to tell you how we got here. See, the hardest thing for women to do is admit fault. And they don't have to because they've been under a shelter of campaigns that protect them from accountability and responsibility. Anytime they do anything wrong with a smile and two fingers behind their back cross, they can get away with anything. And weak men, feminine men, have allowed them to do so. This is why we're here. So what are the results? We hear these campaigns that I call women worship. And I'm going to talk to you about why I don't consider women worshiping a good thing. These campaigns, we've heard them all.  They're human. You can't believe human. Women are queens. Black girl magic. Campaigns designed by marketing companies to get men to say, oh, yeah, we should worship them. Women create life. Last time I took a biology class, I was told otherwise. Not all women would. These are things that we have right here on the tip of our tongue ready to bail out any fault. Smile, two fingers cross behind their back. So this is how we got here. And we got here because of what we call this equality movement right here. Equal. Some people don't understand what equal meant. We have twisted it into a different strategy, meaning equal outcome. That was never the design. Equal opportunity and rights was the design. So because of communism, I mean, I'm sorry, feminism, there is basically a force that has been applied to society. There's a great force. The intent was probably genuine. The communists jumped the board, twisted it a little bit. But if anyone's heard of Sir Isaac Newton in physics, he talked about if you apply an equal force, there will be an equal and opposite force applied.  All right, more women at work. Women make more money. But as a result, there's going to be an equal and opposite reaction to that force. And there are going to be things, which I call consequences, and repercussions. There are going to be things that occur because that happened. And it's going to be opposite of what the intent was. So equal and opposite is what I'm talking about today. So we've experienced this because of what I call the women worship, the side stepping of accountability. We now see the side effects of what feminism has brought us. So we talked about the feminine role that men have assumed. A lot of women are frustrated with men. You're frustrated with men. What's wrong with these men? The famous words of every woman 35 and older, where have all the good men gone? That's the question. They're gone the way of feminism. Let me tell you how we got here. This is how I became coach. This is me suited up. Those are the ladies that I coach. That's me at the college level. Division two head coach. I was division one assistant coach and assistant head coach for a long time. Did this for 16 years in which my job was to convince young women aged 16 to 19 to come to my school. I would sell it. I had value. I had a value proposition for them. They performed based on me. My job was to not see them and worship them. If I worshiped them, I would fail. I had to see women in a different light. And I started this at age 19. I did it all the way up to age 36. I saw women as human beings. I never got into that worship position where I elevated them based on these marketing campaigns. I had to get them to run through a wall. I had to get them to perform. I had to get them to agree to come to my school. I had to get their parents to say, watch over my daughter when she gets there. And then I got to see that daughter. I got to travel with them, go to hotel, to hotel, airport, to airport, bus to bus. I got the inside information that a lot of men in that age group don't get to get. All right, they don't get to receive this. Okay, that's me. You can see me down there. I was always around women. Young women, older women, coaching staffs. I was almost always the only men that traveled with these women. They would see me in the airport. We would go to restaurants and they would say, some guy would see me with all of these women. Oh, you must be the luckiest man alive. More women worship. And I would say, I would trade places with you in a second. I'm done with these women, okay? Had the inside information, the intel. Now, this is what I call the greatest red pill of all time. You hear about the red pill, the blue pill, you've been following any of this content. This experience has been the biggest red pill in my life. It taught me what women could be, what women are.  They're looking out for themselves. Now this could be considered hate speech. But it's not, I'm telling them that these are just human beings. They don't deserve the worship that our society has given them. Neither do we. However, people believe that I'm doing the wrong thing by telling them this. Listen, I do what I call recognizing human patterns of behavior. On Instagram, one of my nicknames is Coach Tradamas. Okay, because what I do is I take an event and I say, well, based on what I've seen people do, this is probably the outcome. And people go, man, boy, you just, they'd be downer. You don't have any hope, any faith. And I say, no, I know people. I know when these things occur, this is probably gonna be the response and I do that for men and women based on my experience. So once I got done with this, I started a fitness training program in California. And of course, most of my clients, women. So I left coaching girls, most of my clients, 70% of them were women. And I got to be with them. I'm their psychologist. I get to talk about them, their spouse, their boyfriends, their breakup, their ups and downs. So I'm getting information most men aren't getting. They're getting the worship, praise her. And I'm getting Jesus. It's another human being with a lot of faults, but I'm seeing not a lot of accountability and responsibility, right? Okay, so what I decided to do was go on YouTube and tell them my experiences and why. Well, listen, was born to a single mother.  Father was around, but as a teenager, me and my mother moved across, we were cross country from my father. So he was just a telephone call away. He's not a really great communicator. So the calls were like six months apart, okay? So I grew up in the single mother household. So I have some intel on that as well. Okay, she was a corporate driven individual. I wouldn't say strong and independent, but very much independent. Worked for three or four Fortune 500, I bought Fortune 500 companies. Very talented and skilled person when they came to that. However, I'm a young man without a father, okay? I'm a young man raising himself. I'm the statistic. I'm the anomaly that made it. Most young men don't make it in that environment. Then I did what most people do when they live the hope strategy. I attempted marriage. Out of that marriage, I produced two children. They are now 14 and 13. Got a daughter, the oldest son follows. They're 16 month apart, okay? Like most people in America, marriage doesn't work, especially if they've been raised in a single mother household. The likelihood of that working is slim to none and slim just died, okay? These people know nothing about marriage, know nothing about family. All they know is what the media has told them about it. They sold them a dream. And they also sold feminism to that woman. And at any particular point, she can latch on to that and destroy the family. Okay? So I've lived a crazy life by this particular point. So now I say, I'm gonna go on YouTube and tell all these dudes what's going on here. Because not only did someone introduce feminism to my wife, then wife, she introduced me to the legal system associated with it, that feminism. Took 18 months to figure out how to divide zero and zero, okay? Then not only that, took us seven years for her to figure out that I am a co-parent. Went to the court three times to get full custody after the judge said, no, we're gonna make it 50-50. She couldn't live with it. Tens of thousands of dollars meeting with judges, mediators, attorneys, counselors, child support office, child protective services. Police called on me three times just for talking to my son at a common event. My daughter was plain. I recorded it and I put it on YouTube. She took me to court. See, these systems are in place for women because of feminism. Feminism put these things in place to destroy the family. Now, people don't know this because they've never been to a family courtroom. You've never been to a courthouse. So the people that say, oh, don't you want love? Well, that's not what marriage is about. It's not because I go to the family courthouse and I've been there over a hundred times. I'm looking at people who loved each other, going at each other's throat with people employed to make this happen. That's the safety net for women. So when they get in marriages now, a woman knows, hell, this doesn't work out. This is my starter husband. I can destroy this family. And this guy's worth more divorce than married. I can get some benefits from him, go out there and write the cop carousel, enjoy my strong independent life. Who gets hurt the most? The children. We've done this for the last 40, 50 years. And we wonder where have all the good men gone? You know where they went? 60 million aborted. There's probably some good men in there. Okay, probably a couple of good men in there.  Wrong. That's wrong. She did. She was an incubator. She passed it from her body. Two people created that life, but feminism will say one person did and she gets to decide. Where have all the good men gone? Good men will agree with this stuff. Anybody heard of Gladys Knight? She had a song called Mr. Welfare. Stuff the media will hide. They'll never play this song. It talked about women don't go see Mr. Welfare.  You don't hear that today. We hear women praise, women worship. Women can do no wrong. Women have choice. Even when they mess up, even when they're at fault, can't blame them. The oppressor did it. So here I am on YouTube. Two years later, literally to the almost to the day, I've been doing this for two years. Over 100 and something thousand subscribers on one channel. I have six channels dedicated to this in which I'm giving her hitting truth. People call me a lot of things on these channels if they oppose my view. Women hate her. Bitter, hurt. I've hurt them all. So don't think you're gonna get on the microphone after this would be like, you're just, I've heard all of these things. One thing they never call me though.  They never say he's lying to you. They're gonna use all of these other phrases to try to distract you about what I'm telling you based on my experiences. I talk about stuff like this. Selecting a mate is vital, important for men. So for women too. This is the iceberg theory, which I say for men, mate selection.  I don't curse. This is his rod that he goes out with and he throws it out there looking for a mate.  Most of the time, any man that lies down with you, he's not intending to have a baby with you. He's just practicing. Unless he agrees to it, then he intends to do it. Unfortunately, you go to the courthouse, remember she created life? Well, go to child support court and then apply that principle. What do they say? Oh, you did it too, so you're responsible. What happened to she created life? Okay, what happened to that? Oh, now all of a sudden I'm in it. You see, the imbalance is there. Selecting a mate, the dangers of the wrong mate selection. Guys don't think about this. They don't think about looking at her financial background, her emotional age.  She's 45, she act like she's 20, okay? These are the things that you need to look out for. What about this student loan debt? You know who the bulk holder of the student loan debt is in this country? Women, almost to the tune of 70% of that debt. Somebody said, what, go and learn. But they also saddled you with debt. So if I'm gonna pick a partner, I'm also assuming her debt. That's gonna be important, right? Okay, I also talk about this. It's a little blurry. It's called the marriage wheel. They lead with emotion, which I'm not big on. I'm not gonna lead with emotion. I'm gonna lead with logic, evidence, proof, background, validity, all of these things. But people lead men to the slaughter with love. So he connects, he engages with her. He thinks that she loves him. Then he invests. There's an investment made, okay? Children, house, cars, bills.  You take pictures for Facebook, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. We all already know how the story goes. Then you get to the point 60% of people fail. Why? bait and switch phase number three. She can change her mind about the rules that we agree to upfront.   He might not even know why. She might not even know why. But the system is certainly in place for that to happen. Most men don't wanna hear this. They hope. And I say, hope is not a strategy, okay? You hope she doesn't change her mind, but if she does, your investment is going to be put up on the block. As a result, the disengagement phase occurs. What's gonna happen? All kind of stuff. Divorce, family court, child support, all of these systems that are in place, he's gonna lose his kids or he has to fight for them, et cetera, et cetera. Then people come in, some people re-enter, 70% second marriage failure rate. Third marriage is fail 80% of the time. We're talking about almost a certainty. And the lawyers are happy. So we're gonna talk about the scoreboard of feminism. Let's go back into Newton's third law, which is for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Remember I said, everything that you do, if you apply force to it, it's gonna have an opposite reaction. If I apply the same principle to feminism, and we just say, oh, we're celebrating, more women at work, and they make a little bit more money. Okay, what else happened? Something opposite had to happen. Society doesn't wanna operate on Newton's law. They just wanna say, everything's good, okay? I wrote this book called The Evolution, Feminism's Reverse Engineering of American Women. This is by design. It's not women's fault, it's not women's fault. Now if you come into my channel after watching a week's worth of videos, you'll be like, damn, you blame in women for this. But after a while, and there's a person that's been on my channel for a long time back there, she's shaking her head. After a while, you'll be like, oh, I see where he's pointing the finger, okay? I see where he's pointing the finger. And the story is, it's old, it's time. The story's been told already. We're just living it again. Adam and Eve, sound familiar? Jezebel Spirit, okay? The Cleopatra and the Roman Empire, is it Mark Anthony and Caesar? Same thing. On the back of my book cover, this is the front of the book cover. He's about to eat that apple. On the back of the book cover, which I ran out of books unfortunately, that apple is consumed. Today, that's feminism. Apple represents feminism. Hey, you guys want good jobs and good money? Of course. You're gonna make a deal with the devil. In my opinion, feminism is failure. It has failed us.  Look at some of these things. I've not took hours to research them. They have references. They don't have references in here. I'll go through a few. 60 million abortions since 1973. Where have all the good men gone, okay? 70% of divorces are initiated by women. When I made that graph, it's actually 80%. Eight out of 10 times, when the divorce is initiated, a woman goes down there and files it with the court. Okay, 45% of women age 25 to 45 work full-time. And I say they're trading their fertility years for a paycheck. This is not by nature. This is designed to destroy. This is a direct result of feminism, but when I apply it, people go, oh no, what happened? Accountability, umbrella, women worship, two fingers behind my back smile. Oh no, has nothing to do with it. 85% of those living paycheck to paycheck are women. And I always tell men, women are broke, okay? They're broke. You gotta know that going in. If you don't accept that, and knowing and accepting are two different things.  Very few times that occurs. Women owe close to 70% of the student loan debt. More women receive welfare, alimony and child support than men. 77% of black children born to unwed mothers. This is 2015. That can't be good. Have the obesity right there, which I don't even know, might be higher than that. 52% of American women are single. That is the highest percentage in American history. It has never been that high. Most women married for a purpose. Purpose was for the family, right? 60% plus divorce rate, that's just climbing. Especially now that people have to really, their marriages are really getting exposed. You gotta sit up under each other, all right? How many people filing for divorce? It's outrageous right now. One in four women take mental health meds, which on my show I would say then, three and four walking around undiagnosed, right? Did you catch that? Okay, so percentage of birth to unwed mothers in 1950s it was almost unheard of. Today single motherhoods are heroes. What happened as a result? Boom, women's worship. The minute you take away a standard, then they say, well, I don't have to live by it then. I'm gonna do it. Same thing with body acceptance. It's the same thing. Except for their body. Sounds like a good idea, but what's gonna happen? Most women are say, well, shit, it don't matter, I ain't gonna do it. The father absence crisis in America. This is the real hook. When you remove the father, you destroy the family.  This is a direct side effect, equal and opposite of what feminism is. Can't argue me down. I'm not going forward. There's nothing you can say to change my mind. I've seen it. I coached women's basketball at college. The biggest thing that they pushed was title nine, which made zero sense when you applied it to logic. You were like, what? Oh, women get to play in the big stadium, but there's a hundred people in there. Why are we playing in the empty arena? Why don't we put them in a small gym? Oh no, well, we get to play in the big arena because the men are playing in there. Yeah, they got 20,000 people screaming in there. Okay, look at the attendance. Why does that make sense? Oh, well, because it's equal. See, that's dumb. What's happening when you remove the father? Kid grows up in poverty. Kid more likely to be pregnant as a teen.  Single mothers are heroes. Yeah, I did too. I grew up in a single mother household, never went to jail, but based on that statistic, I'm the anomaly. I made it. So you can always point to the person who made it and said, well, that person made it. Doesn't matter. Child obesity, more likely to be fat, more likely to commit a crime. Two times likely to drop out of school. Then you get this beta male energy.  That's what I call it because it's the truth. Okay, you got people out here that they've done this in 1990. I was there 1960.  Why are we doing this?  You're not a victim. I'm gonna impute into you success, but they removed so many fathers that these beta males run out here thinking that they're doing something. Okay, the spirit of Jezebel. If you guys go to my channel and you wanna review one video, review the video, just say Coach Greg Adams. And I think I called it Jezebel, number one to get around the YouTube algorithm censorship. And I also did it to say to Jezebel a little bit. Jezebel, but the spirit of Jezebel, they released the song, Wet As Peace Leave is what I call it on my channel. See, one of the worst things to happen to gender dynamics is this. They put a smart phone with a camera into women's hands. That was disastrous for relationships and gender dynamics. From there, she can worship herself. She can broadcast to other people to worship her. So much so that if she has a spouse, a boyfriend, or whoever, people pursuing them, they cannot match the attention that she can get on her own. They cannot match the attention that she can get via Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat, all of these vehicles to broadcast herself for women's worship. And the beta males are eating it up. See, this cult was designed to destroy manhood and drag womenhood into shame, the spirit of Jezebel. You had so many women supporting this. And the worst of it were older women were saying, yeah, I'm in it too.   But if you study the natural order, if you study Jezebel in the Bible, her dependency on manipulation was to have weak men worship her so she can manipulate them. She selected a weak husband who was the king of Israel, King Ahab, and he manipulated him. This is common of what we see in today's marriages, women holding out, holding out, holding out, then she throws a half court buzzer beater or what in football terms would be is a Hail Mary. And at the last moment, when the eggs dry up like the Sahara Desert, she tries to select a mate. Most times a weak male and she parades him around because he's easily manipulated. This has been written in the Bible already. She had the weakest king and it established the basis of weak marriages today. Do we see weak marriages? They certainly are strong, look at the statistics. They're not strong, they're weak. Why? We're selecting weak men. The domineering wife will soon master the weak husband and enter in what the Bible referred to with Jezebel as immorality. Do we see that today? Immorality and idolatry. The worship of false gods, the worship of women. That was what the story of Jezebel is. You guys wanna look at that?  The man that opposed her was a man called anybody. We don't have people that walk in the faith and spirit of God here. Neither do I, but I'm not a religious person. Her opposition was a man called Elijah who called her out for her idolatry and immorality. I'm Elijah right now, today, for this hour. What did they do to Elijah? Well, the weak king Ahab drove him out into the desert. Said, we're not gonna listen to this.  They called him an anti-feminist.  So they could come out here and continue to do this. What has it led to? What's happening next? Oh, this doesn't have anything to do with the next thing. Shelter the umbrella of accountability and responsibility. Oh, it doesn't? This doesn't connect? Interesting, interesting. Because it connects in my brain because I'm using logic. I'm using evidence. The Jezebel was defiant until the end when the new king came and told her, you will be put to death.  Society will be destroyed. Did she change? Nope. To the death she defied. Do we see that today?  Until the dogs eat her flesh. This is why I say, and again I'm not blaming you, people are providing you with the shelter. But what I say is for this to turn, we might have to go ahead and let the barbarian hit the gate. See when the barbarian comes and starts knocking, all of a sudden, all of that equal rights, all of that men can do it too. I mean, women can do what men can do. All of that's gonna go right out the window and they're gonna say, where are the real men at? Protect us. Do what you're supposed to do. Oh wait a minute, we're supposed to do it? You can do it. You said you can do it. Now you don't wanna do it. Did we see that March 2020? All of a sudden, women wanted to go back and be housewives. And then they did, cause they got laid off from their paper and pencil pushing jobs that they propped them up with and said, what did they say? Essential workers. Men. Essential workers. Men. Primarily men. Primarily men. Okay? Let's get to this. The absence of male authority. We're seeing right now, men just getting roasted, land-based it. Just ridiculously.  The minute a man speaks up, he's the enemy. So some of you guys right now are going, this guy. The reality is, I haven't told one lie since I've been up here. I told 100% true. You just don't like it. Do I care? I don't care. I'm here to tell the truth. Okay? Male authority, all gone. We turn our kids over to the prizes in the relationship. And they turn them over to social media. The kids now consume more social media. They get these cultural Marxist promotions and propagandas. The teachers are telling them about abortion and how it's not baby murder. 60 million people. Okay?  Your son watches his teenage classmates, female, get worshiped from around the world.  Old men, men of all ages, they flock.  I look at my female classmate with a million followers. I can't get 10. How's she getting? What does these women do? What does the young girls do? Well, in order for me to make it, I gotta be a Kardashian. The boys, in order for me to make it, I gotta adopt feminine traits. Gotta put on tight jeans and I gotta dance too. These young boys are putting makeup channels on. Right here on social media. Did I lie yet? Nope. Young boys fear women.  And they watch their female classmates be everything but feminine. What else are they gonna turn them over to? Teachers. Trained Marxists. Liberal adopting philosophy. They teach these kids in school how to vote. They teach them where to lean. The teachers union say, don't send the kids back to school until what? Not until we get fathers involved. Nope. Until we get families involved. Nope. Until we defund the police. That's what they're gonna ride on. Teachers.  Is this what we're talking about? Is this what education is about? Nope, yep. That's what we turn them over to. And every day your father, his father, the kids' father's there not to debrief them if he's still a part of the home. He's emasculated already. He's the weak king AHAB. 93% of teachers K through six women. 93%. When they get to middle school 76%.   I'm gonna guarantee you that some of them are teachers. There's the mothers. What is she doing? She paying attention to the kid? Nope. She's working. I gotta work, baby. Now, for all fairness, they gotta work now. That's just a side effect of feminism. The economy's designed now. Too much inflation. We gotta do it now. Can't go back.  Hell no. Why do that?  You can do just as good.  And for the first 10 years, women make more money than men. 23 aged 23 to 33 women outperform men in money. Are we told that? Nope.  Women can say, I'll step out. I'll just back out of this for a minute. Maybe to create a family. I don't want to hustle. I'm going to seek an arrangement to find a rich guy. They start adopting all kinds of strategies, right? Okay. In the 1980s, 50% of women worked either full of part-time today, 72%.  The public school indoctrination camp is where she's gonna send this kid for the majority of their time. And if she's a single mom, that kid will see networks of babysitters, free lunches, free daycare, public school indoctrination camp. The state runs the prison. They also run the school. Okay. So we're seeing right now, when it comes to it, if she wants to go back out there and work, remember phase three of the marriage will, the bait and switch. Hey, honey, I've been thinking. I'll go out and work now. It could destroy the family. You know, the marital divorce rate is so high. At that particular point, he might not say, he might say that wasn't the deal. Does he have any choice in a matter now? Nope, she just go right over there. Oh, I'll go talk to this attorney. Okay, damn. I got to comply because I'm invested. Now, if he doesn't comply, 83% of the physical custody primarily goes to women, most time unchallenged. Most time the man says, I ain't dealing with that. I'm not paying attorneys. We know the single mother hood rate, et cetera, et cetera. Now, the next slide, brace yourself, creates the son husband. You remove the man from the house and what you now have to do if you don't remarry, if you did remarry, most likely within the first three years of going into divorce, 70%, okay? Well, she needs a masculine figure. So only, right? Who is she gonna make the masculine figure? The son, she's gonna guilt him lifelong guilt. Well, you need to be there for me, you need to support me. Why? Because she backed out, oh, damn, I don't wanna work for the next 30 years now until I'm 68. Take care of me, son. Take out the trash, son. Do this son, protect the house, son. You're the man of the house now. No son should be the man of the house. No son should be the man of the house, but we adopt this. We adopt these things. It's silly, silly to me. This man right here won the MVP and he cried and he said, mama, you're the real MVP. This man was adopted by the neighborhood coaches and they dragged them around the country, saved them from Washington DC, which you've been there. It's not a great place for young black men to be, but they sheltered him and saved him from being a statistic and he cries to the mom. He's forever a son husband. She will sabotage his future relationships with women to protect her man. The only man she will ever have here on out, okay? Church, let's talk about these churches. It's a rest haven for weak men and women who have made mistakes with themselves early on in life and they want to be redeemed and they will seek the blood of the lamb and have their sins all washed away. The church will provide this and they will pair up these weak men, good doing men with these women. All to protect the preacher's pockets because the women are gonna put the money in the plate. The men aren't. Some of these pastors have had relationships with these women and if not the women, the young boys. Some of these churches are infected and fested with progressive ideology. Some of them harbor trans people in their thing and these trans people will do what? Oh, I wanna work with the kids. And they'll say, damn, what do I do? Live by the Bible or progression, progressive movement. They gotta make a choice. Coach, see, the man is not even here yet. The man is all gone and they've passed through all of these people. Now, if the kid has talent, a coach will save him. He might, but by the time the talent's even realized the kid's 12, he ain't seen his daddy. Some guys chose to run away from the responsibility. Most of the time, they're not even running away from the child, who are they running away from? The mom can't deal with him, can't deal with her. Now, the reason why he can't deal with her also because he chose wrong.  Now he was practicing making kids and then damn, one slip past the goalie, now he's gotta deal with her. But the coach shows up and he's supposed to teach the kid how to wear a suit, how to be a man, how to tie a tie. He's the last bastion of savior for the community. He's gonna teach this kid the first lessons of masculinity. Now we know by some of the stories of fantasy that sometimes the mom will start relationships with the coach and undermine that whole relationship. These things happen. I was a coach, by the way, so I know. I'm not saying I didn't mean that though. By the time all of this happens, you hope a father is around. And this father is supposed to be strong enough in his family and have authority to debrief the child after they've been passed through all of this. Now he's a co-parent and I'm not big on co-parenting, although the government has forced me into this agreement. There's two castles, there's two set of rules. How well does that work? The kid lives out of a backpack for all his life, how well is that? Would you wanna live out of a backpack? Go from here, there, week after week, day after day, month after month, year after year. Is that raising children? Hell no. But if you do give, just so happen to give the father a chance, he now, with half the time, 25% of the time, visitations, saved that child. He has to have time to debrief that kid. We're not seeing this. If you're seeing this, let me know. Now, we got an uphill battle going on right here. I wrote two books. The first book is aimed at men, okay? Free agent lifestyle, men's guide to peace, quiet and freedom. At the end of the day, most guys just want peace twice. He wants a little, a couple pieces of peace lead. She even watching my channel, she knows that me.  He used to have freedom in the United States. Now they tell us what to do.  You can travel this time. See, once you've given it up, once you've given up freedom, don't think they gonna give it all back at the same time. It'll give you a little bit at a time. We got control of you now. Stay in the house, don't come out. You easy to govern in, okay? But free agent lifestyle is for men. You probably won't be interested in it, although I've met women that have read the book, okay? The evolution, feminism's reverse engineering of American women is also probably something if you're interested in learning or knowing about feminism, that's there. The evolution does not have an audio book. Free agent lifestyle does. Free agent lifestyle podcast is what I tell men, especially divorced men, men that go through breakups.  Leave them alone.  Go build some authority until you learn how to build value and authority. Don't try to date, because men take shortcuts. Men love shortcuts, and everything seems to revolve around women. What is wrong with these guys?  Cougar, male, I mean, everything's a, have you ever been on an adult website? No, you don't have to answer that. You should see the categories out here. Full of women, worship, and any possible means. So I tell men, if you can do so, don't worship women.  I'm trying to create stronger men. Could benefit you. So all that hate, I just talked about you. I'm also directing it to men. Tell them love, yo, do it right or not at all. Most men can't do it, okay? But that's on all the Spotify, SoundCloud, Apple, Podcast, Google Play. That's my website, GregAdamsOne.com. It's a one-stop shop to find everything about what I do, most of it is free content, okay? I made this course for men called Conquer, Value Authority. I believe in it. We've given women plenty of opportunity to do so. When it's convenient for them, they advocate. They step back. I can do, I'm strong. These boots are made for walking. I can bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan. Guess what? There's the barbarian, go get them.  Where are all the real men? And real men, what that means is a person that does everything that's gonna benefit the woman. A real man would, except me, no matter how I am, whether I'm crazy or not, a real man would open the door for a woman, meaning me, right? It is always a direct benefit to the woman. It's not like a real man would have value and authority over me, it's never that. It's always a weak proposition and a benefit directly to the woman. That's what I've noticed, patterns of human behavior. Conquer, the ultimate game for life. People talk about game a lot. Oh, how to game women and what to say. God, look, man, you guys have heard it all. You guys have heard all the pickup lines, all of this stuff.  I'm so happy you walked by me.  I would love to get to know you.  You heard it all. You got your social media account. The women are now worshiping the other women on there.  I go to the comments section and women worshiping. I'm like, go girl, ooh, yeah. I'm like, what is going on? We're lost. We're lost. We're out of order. Again, I didn't blame women for that. Weak men and women allow it. Up until they need us, we're of all the good men gone. Then they want to come back. Okay, there's a discount code there if you're interested. And ladies, that is my presentation. If you have any questions, comments, or anything that you would like to address with me, please hit the microphone and let me know. See if I can help you out. Yes. First of all, let me say I'm sorry that you actually got treated bad by some women who actually created this thing that you are spelling out. You are very well spoken and clearly you have done your work, but you have done your work in a biased way because you are putting all women in the basket of... She's saying not all women. Okay. Non-productive and dependent on men and weak men. And I have a very strong man, and I'm a very strong woman. He worshiped the ground I walk on and I worship the ground he walks on. So does that mean that I am unique to... I'm not unique. I belong to a group of a lot of strong women that actually have a lot of strong men worshiping them.  I'm a professional woman and an accomplished woman. I have a man who's strong enough to stand up to that. You have a husband? And can respect me. You have a husband? It doesn't matter. Oh, no, it doesn't matter. Oh, hold on. No, no, no, no, no, no.  No, but it doesn't matter that it's not a matter of, is it a husband or is it a man, a real man?  A man who sits there and blames woman for all their shortcoming is weak. And in my opinion, if I have to tell you that you have to take responsibility for yourself, if you have to, if you complain because you have to pay for your child to be raised and you say it's because the women tricked you into it, you are weak. In my opinion, you're weak. So call it whatever you want.  So there are good women out there and there are good men out there. If you did not do your homework to pick that good woman and ended up in that place, don't blame every woman. It's not fair. I don't blame every man. I'm divorced. I was married for 20 years. I'm divorced. So I don't blame every man. And they're not Jezebel. I don't, nobody calls me Jezebel or anything. I have a great man. I have a strong man. Defied, defied, defied. I have a strong man. Okay. That is what the problem is. That's enough for the question there. That's my question. What I'm gonna tell you is did you hear me say anything about good man or good woman? I didn't say anything about good man or good woman. I said real man. And I said it in the context of that. Now, did you hear me say all women? I never said all women. Well, you shouldn't be excited. So now, here's the deal. When I said all, if I say women, I say women statistically overwhelmingly do these things and the statistics back it up. And not only that, not only that, when I say it, if a woman hasn't done it, all you have to say is yet. She has the ability to do so. Now, the ability to do so is just as dangerous as her doing. And it's just as dangerous in society. If you are able to do it, like say for instance, I was able to just cheat on my wife, but I never did. But there was no penalty. Is this still dangerous that I'm able to do it? Is it dangerous to your relationship? Yes. So it doesn't negate the fact that you haven't done it, which you have. You've already been divorced. You're already not having a man as a husband. By that definition. Maybe I don't want to. You've already been a statistic. You've already put your man through it. And I would advise that man most likely that you are as dangerous as anyone else that has done it. Of course. You can always put your weakness out on me. But of course, of course I'm good with that. I can't handle that. I'm woman enough to handle that. So I can handle that. One more question. I have a question for you. I do have a question for you. Do you really think feminism is the problem?  First of all, it's such a broad definition. I don't even define myself as a feminist.  I am a woman who actually succeeds. And I have a man who succeeds. I mean, it's not a gender bias. It's just people succeed in what they do because they put the effort behind it no matter what gender they are. So this whole thing, I mean, if we are to change the situation that the way that it is right now, what we need to do is to find commonality, is to find a place where we meet, to find a place where in your case or in case of a lot of men that actually feel that women are the cross, the reason why they're going to what they're going through, what we need to do is probably make look into ourselves. But even better, as the reason why I'm here. Is there a question? Yeah. The reason why I'm here is to find that place where you, myself, or all of us can sit here and find that one place of commonality.   You're not married. Well, maybe I chose that. Does that ever occur to you? Go ahead and have a seat. What I'm going to tell you is this. So you're telling me the benefits of feminism, which I said there were. I already said there were benefits of feminism. Does women make you more money? Fine. Great. There's women working. Fine.  However, if you're going to do it with the benefits of feminism, and as a result, take that care of the feminism and not deal with the after effects and the opposite and accept it, well then, that's not smart. I'm not telling you you're wrong for making decisions about your life. You can do whatever you want. But just know accepting this deal and then saying, well, I don't really agree with it. Well, it doesn't matter. Like if I walk into a courtroom and I'm ignorant of the law and I tell the judge, well, listen, I didn't know. I didn't know that was a crime. I didn't know that was going to have a negative effect. Your honor, please let me go. Guess what the judge is going to say? Well, there are laws. There are consequences. There are repercussions.  It doesn't matter if you only accept this part of it. This is the reality of it. Now you can continue to live this way and say these things aren't a result of feminism, but to me, that is leading with emotion. That's an emotional choice. I feel that, most of the things she said was I feel. I feel this and I feel that and I feel that after I produced hours of evidence, data, statistics. See, when you come to my channel, I say, listen, I just talked for an hour and a half with evidence, data, facts, sources, research, and your feelings, you want me to consider your feelings. See, that's a female trait and we pass that on to men. And now men, first thing they say, I feel.  Doesn't matter how you feel. Doesn't matter how I made you feel. See, that's your feelings. I can't operate on each one of your feelings. I can just operate on my truth. Now, I'll deal with this real quick.   So a lot of people fail at relationships, specifically 99.9% of relationships fail. If you're not with your sixth grade, high school, sixth grade sweetheart, you failed. So don't turn my failure into that's why you believe that you failed at plenty of relationships and most of the time it's some divorce woman that wants to come in and I'm like, you're divorced. You're single. You might want to benefit from this information. Yes. Hey, thank you for coming out and speaking to us. So I wanted to say that the 60 million aborted, probably some good men in there, that's so powerful. So absolutely powerful. And to think about that, it's a little bit overwhelming because we do have a problem with there being men who have adopted a lot of feminine traits. And when you engage with men who are not stoic and detached and have a positive baseline in dealing with it, it turns into arguments and you hurt their feelings and then all of a sudden you're trapped in this cycle of combat and the covert contract is real, unvoiced expectations, indirectness, all these things. So what can we as women do when we encounter these men? Cause it's a daily basis thing. Sure. Every single day there's going to be a weak man that comes and gives you feminine energy and it will push you right into the masculine. Yes. It's unfortunate, again, that men have adopted this feminine trait, fighting, arguing. It don't take all of that. Relationship should be semi easy. If there's a disagreement, that's humanity. But when people are fighting it with emotions, that means the man has come down onto the playground of woman. He can't lead, he has no authority, he has no value. See, men who have no value and authority have to argue. They have to fight you because they're on your level. Not saying that it's a lower level, but they're on your level. I can't fight them up with somebody that I'm stronger than, like I can end this whole conversation with strength, with value. That's the door, hit it. I can walk away, I can stop spending. I got value, I got authority. I don't need this. But when I don't have value and authority, I have to argue. Now, the marketplace is now such that it's almost sexual harassment if I walk up to a woman and talk to her. What do you do? So now where do we have to meet each other? Internet. Good luck.  All you're gonna meet is weak men, fornicate, and that's about it. Every now and then, a woman will get lucky and give you hope. Oh, damn, she met her husband on the internet. Damn, I'ma go right out there.   Okay, this is what's happening. Now, remember when I said patterns of human behavior? I call it out and I predict it. Now, am I right or wrong when I'm talking about this? You might not like it, but am I not telling the truth? I'm telling you the truth. You don't like it. And I'm calling both people out. Did I say weak men? So don't come to me and say I hate women when I just called the men out. But you don't hear it. It went one ear. It didn't even marinate it here. It went right out the other.  What's that? No accountability. No accountability. Exactly. I've been calling out men the whole time. Called out the government the whole time.  You allow it to happen. You're the person that seeks the shelter of protection lack accountability, responsibility when it's convenient for you. And they use you because they can. Yes. I'm here because I wanna hear your story and it's very different from mine. So I appreciate that and it brings value to my life. I haven't looked at things at that direction. So I think it's important for us to hear something and accept it as it is presented. So thank you for that. My experience has been that perhaps that Newton's law that push and pull for me has been violence against women. And so when I see it, the women reacting and doing this can you speak to that for just a moment? Like I get that you can quote the Bible that was written many years ago and through translation come up with really great stories to tell and use the Jezebel and the Apple and all of that for us to relate to. But our current day experience and I'm gonna try to leave the internet out of it because I get that is kind of a whole new thing. But for that rippling, for some of us women who have been involved with violence from men to women, how would you kind of address and help us acclimate to this point of view from that point of view? Got it. Thank you for your question on that. Again, selection of mate is vital. If you choose weak men who argue, fight, deal with some of these things, if they're confronted with issues, they don't have value or authority, they're gonna do things like that. If there is violence, I'm not sure if this is physical violence that you're talking about. There's data that would almost say that it's catching up that women are as physically violent to men. It's very close, very close. We're talking about like 60, 40, very close. And oftentimes what can women do if they hit their husband? Step back under the shelter or umbrella. I'm just a woman. And then if he retaliates, then the police are called. Then he's hauled off the jail. We already see it. If you watch, just watch cops. And that's what happened, all right? They also have data, which I can't quote right now, but they said a lot of times it's instigated by women, right? You're getting emotional. I wanna do this. You caused the stir. He was just sitting there watching the football game. Remember they said in the Super Bowl, the message of violence shoots up. It's not cause his team is losing. It's cause he wanna watch the game. And you came in there with some bull. Now I can't prove any of that. So don't take my word on the statistics there, but physical violence is almost toe-to-toe statistically. It's getting there. Young women tend to deal with this.  You know how many women that I went on dates with off the internet? I'm coming out of an abusive relationship. I'm like, here we go. All right, listen. I understand that that's the case. He's stronger than you, but I have a daughter. If a man put his hands on my daughter, what would the father with authority tell that daughter? Get away from her. You gotta go. Now, she's gonna say emotion, emotion, emotion, emotion, emotion as an argument to the state. If you don't have male authority, a father strong enough to say, get away, that husband is not him pet, that husband has value proposition in his house, he would be able to influence the daughter to do so. Not all the time, but he could. Did you have a father that has stepped that, a dad that stepped up? We celebrate that man.  I don't believe men should do that, okay? But she didn't have a father. Did I just not prove my point about male authority? You remove the man as a result. Stuff like that happens, unfortunately. It all goes back to male authority. You remove it. People are left unprotected. Now we try to figure out on the back end, oh, what should we do about this? What should we do about that? How can we do this? Bruh, can I give you the solution? Keep men in authority. Oh, I don't wanna do that though. What else can we do? Okay, listen, I gave you a solution, you didn't like it. What do you want me to do? I gave you evidence for the solution.  You gave me emotion. You gave me, let's work around it. No, do it my way, coach.  See what I'm talking about? I gave you the solution. You can agree with it or not. It is not my bag to hold anymore. I just go out here and teach this, and I provide the solution. You put it in this ear, you let it marinate right here, then you let it go out. Most people just go shoo, and then hit me with emotional arguments. I can't feel sorry for you. I don't feel sorry for anybody. Remember I said I coach women for 16 years?  And I'm ready to coach the game. Can I coach the game with 16 problems? I can. I can hit you with, this is how I'm gonna hit you with this solution. Everybody get on board. That's how I coach coaches. That's how a man trains and develops and has authority. If you want it otherwise, you don't want them in an authority. Well, good luck, good luck. Thank you. We can win this war. We can win this war? Okay, well, joining us from Orlando, Florida is the man in that clip, Anthony Dream Johnson, who says he wants to abolish feminism and make women great again. No, but it also says with a trademark, make women great again, always great. Make women great again. They're gonna do a three-day seminar for women led by all men.  In mansplaining news, a three-day conference for women led by men hopes to make women great again. How the 22 convention will make you the greatest you ever. Raise your femininity by 500%. First of all, how is a man supposed to tell a woman how to be the ultimate woman? A woman needs to be taught how to be great again, not my words. Oh, you do. Like how to land a husband. How to lose weight.  Why do men think they need to fix the problems of women? Well, it says the world's ultimate event for women. In Orlando, Florida, that's gonna be the scene of the crime. It's mansplaining platoosa. And say no to the toxic, bullying, feminist dogma. Taught by men to make women great again. Taking the stage now is the founder of the 22 convention you're in for a treat, Mr. Anthony Dream Johnson. Anthony Dream Johnson. Anthony Dream Johnson. The first president of the manosphere. It's run by all men. Which promises to, quote, make women great again. This course is guaranteed to raise your femininity by 500%. Together, we will make women great again. Excuse me, I'm mansplaining here. She said there's nothing wrong.


Hi, this is Andy Simon with Sableman Space Burlington and we have a distinguished panel today to talk about the Champlain Parkway and recent developments. The title of the show is South End Update Right Way or Wrong Turn. Tony suggested maybe right way or wrong way but either way. There's a lot to talk about. I want to introduce Mark Hughes, Executive Director of the Racial Justice Alliance in Vermont. Tony Reddington, who's with the Pine Street Coalition and a longtime highway planner by profession. Steve Goodkind also with the Pine Street Coalition, former director of public works in Burlington, former city engineer and former candidate for mayor for the progressive party. Among other things. So there's a lot to talk about and I think the center of our discussion is going to be about environmental justice and racial justice related to the Parkway but as a save open space and also as a member of Friends of Engelsby Brook. I'd like to hear a little bit about the environmental impact of the current plan as proposed by the city for the Champlain Parkway. And also how that might be mitigated by the right way plan that Pine Street Coalition is is presenting. Sure, I can start Andy. Thank you. The Engelsby Brook has been a concern right from the get go and a lady who's been active in the, in the preservation area, Diane Gayer was a member of our group. The Engelsby Brook, people realize is the largest stream in Burlington that enters Lake Champlain. You don't see much of it because much of it's been put underground over the years. And the proposed Parkway would do the same would take about a 200 foot strip of the Engelsby Brook and stick it into the ground and force it to go through a pipe. And what I would say is not a very nice thing to do to what a natural area, particularly one that is so important to the, to the south end of the city so the, our union of what we call now our union of the right way which is Pine Street Coalition, Marx Group, Vermont Racial Justice Alliance and 40th Burlington, which owns Innovation Center on Lakeside Avenue. And from the beginning that we believe that the preservation of not only the book itself but the shorelines and the flood floodplain area should be a prime consideration, and we shouldn't be throwing what was going to be a four lane highway and now it's still a wide two lane highway right through through and over the book and barrier. So that has been a chief consideration. It is today and it will continue to be an objective of our union right union for Champlain right way. Okay, great. So, my take on what the city is putting forward is that the Champlain Parkway as planned is moving forward. There are no obstacles in the way. There are. There's no reason why they shouldn't go ahead with their phased plan that they put forth the city council. What's the perspective, and what are the concerns from Pine Street Coalition from the Racial Justice Alliance about this plan and what are you proposing as an alternative. I'll take the key question, Andy, which is, what is the status. The Pine Street Coalition went to US District Court two years ago on D-Day, 6 of June, with a court suit to stop the Parkway. That suit has been held in abeyance because, oh, surprise, the federal officials agreed with us that the new environmental justice regulations had not been applied to the Parkway. So they asked for a delay, which obviously we not only didn't oppose but supported the application of these rules. That court suit still sits there today two years later. I'll let Mark address what was done or not done in terms of that environmental justice process. So the idea that the city, which is every year they say, oh, we're going to start construction this next spring. They've been saying that for a decade now. In fact, we would like to see some kind of resolution, some kind of change that we could then get to the table to so that the Parkway could a reasonable project could go forward on behalf of the South End and its needs up today. But right now we're in court and unless something changes, that court suit would be then begun again, become active and at the normal course of events, a court suit on a project like this would take six to seven years to be resolved. And that's what our lawyers tell us. So that gives you an idea what the actual statuses versus what the rosy scenario painted by the city leadership would have you believe. Thank you, Tony. I guess, then, can we move on to the environmental justice aspect of it and what what if the city is in fact the city, state and federal process has addressed that in any meaningful way and what you're proposing from from the other side of this discussion. Mark, you take that on. Andy, thank you, thank you for having me. This is a great conversation. This is the first time that we've had the opportunity to engage like this I think we're going to do a number more of these. I would love the back up though if you don't mind and and just maybe set the stage a little bit more for the for the discussion at hand imagining that folks are hearing about the Champlain Parkway and maybe they have some questions and I think it's really important to understand this project is, you know, it was, you know, things that were happening during that time was as we were thinking about, you know, that, you know, maybe we should have, we should do something, some doubt somewhere down the line like land use maybe we might get to act to 50. And the civil rights movement was in full swing across the United States. So, this is how old this project is, there's a whole cast of characters. It's almost like the, the, the, the, the who's who of everybody. And that's Ingleby Ingleby's, Ingleby's, Brooke, if I can say it is, is involved, Tony mentioned for you. There's a super fun site involved in this conversation there's maple king, a fluent white neighborhoods, businesses in Washington, shoppers, DOT, DPW, VTrans, CCRPC and EIEIO and all of the rest. There's so many players in this particular thing. And as the story goes, it seemed like a good idea to route traffic from I 189. As you come out to what we now know to be the road to nowhere, which is actually the first part of this project as you come out up on 189 as you are sitting there. Denny's is there as you recall, the, the market 32 is there and so forth buffalo wild wings. So as you get the intention was to be able to take that off ramp, and it would just dump you into downtown, ultimately. So for those who are watching, I think that's really, really important to understand because the reason why this project was designed was to reduce traffic in an affluent white neighborhood in the south into Burlington and also provide a pathway for those who want to spend money, who though, though, obviously you would assume that they have money to spend in downtown Burlington shopkeepers. So this is commerce to be able to spend money in downtown Burlington. Okay. And what, what they discovered during the process is that there is a super fun site, which literally calls pins that's not hundreds of millions of dollars to clean up that was right on the trajectory. And so what they decided to do, instead of figuring out how and oh by the way, it to feed into this is barge canal, it to feed into the lake. In the, every now and then it will spit something out into the lake because it hasn't been cleaned up. So nobody stopped this project to determine how we go about cleaning up that mess. What they decided to do is to end around that mess and nobody's talking about that mess anymore, nor is there anyone being held accountable for it. Likely someone profited quite well from whatever was done in that space. So this project was detoured and now it's going through an area of the state, the city that we call maple King, which just so happens to be the blackest and the brownest, and the most populist refugee resettlement area in the entire state. So that's where the conversation starts. So I think that it's important to understand that this project would reduce traffic at the same time in an affluent white neighborhood, by as much as 74%. And at the same time, increased traffic in this neighborhood by as much as maybe 30 to 34%. That's the groundwork that we're working off of. That's that's where everything kind of starts the conversation starts for those who were watching and for those who maybe didn't understand the background. So we've got a lot of problems and if, if nothing else, and I'll stop here and go back to you. I don't know that I've completely answered the question, but I'm going to look to my colleagues to to kind of pick up more on this conversation. If this doesn't, if this doesn't provide us any other lesson. I think you hopefully if you're listening, you've gotten something out of that, but we can also see where there's this convergence of this environmental where we have this, we have racial justice, we have all of the great movie, I guess is what I'm saying here because we've got this. We've got economics, we have capitalism, we've got affluent white folks, we have environment, we have, we have environmental justice, we have racial justice. You know, we're, we're looking over at Engelsby and we're seeing how that overlaps with maple king and how it overlaps with commerce in the city. So all of this stuff is a convergence of a perfect recipe for disaster in right way is trying to avoid that. So I'll kick it back over to you for, and thanks for allowing me to give the background. Hey, thank you so much Mark I just want to, I want to be sure that we address at this some point in this discussion, the, the question of why the city, and seemingly the state and federal federal highway. Commission, or administration is persisting with this plan and insisting on not addressing the right way proposal. So, please let me take that one Andy. Okay, I'm really glad you asked that question. In a word, money, period. This entire thing, everything that we're talking about just like everything else that we deal with.  I think we need to stop over complicating the issues that we're dealing with, you know, with the decisions are made at city conflict decisions are made in the mayor's office the decisions are made at the statewide level decisions are made on the federal level on this, the entire purpose of this was about money, it was about being able to provide those who are won businesses downtown the ability to bring folks in to to it was to placate those who are white and affluent in the south end to give folks who are white and don't have to live in the city the ability to access, you know, to be able to spend their money. And, and once this thing goes shoveling ground, I'll guarantee you it's also about those folks will be profiting from the project as well. And one thing I can assure you that you won't find many black or brown folks that are benefiting economically across. Thank you so much for that mark. Just a quick follow up on that. Why are the way. Yeah, I can hear you Steve. Let me just ask, but let me just ask this question and you can follow up with that. Why, why wouldn't the city see the right way proposal as a way to move forward, instead of as an obstacle to them. I think everything that Mark said is true, but they're also something and it's been this way for a long time there's egos involved in this thing at the federal level at the state level and at the city level. And I think this, the fact that the EIS was not changed at all is as much due to that as anything they are not going to admit that they've made a mistake. They're not going to admit they did wrong. And they all want to just get this thing done. And you clarify, I mean you don't really care about the issues we're talking about they just want it off the books it's it's a project that's been around for a long time it's what's called a MEGC project it has a very favorable funding ratio the feds pay for most of it more than most other highway projects. And it's, but every state used to have these we got the only one or two left in the country now, they want it done. And it doesn't matter to them, how it gets done they just wanted it's off the books they want to check a box, especially the feds in the state. The city, I think the mayor would sort of like to get it done but I think he's made deals with them. And he, he's not a person that can back off from things that just his ego. He again wants it built to show that he can build it on his watch. And they're not interested in taking any more time. They're not interested in changing it they want it done they want to check the box and say they did it. And it's their egos that drive them. It's too bad but they just can't look back. You would think the mayor would say this is a great opportunity now to do it right. In fact, Tony and I will always say that shape and spend to the current public work director has said a number of times in meetings that if we were designing this project today, it wouldn't be like this. He's acknowledging that this is not the way you would do it, but they're doing it. They're doing it. They're doing it by politics by ego, and all the other things that Mark said. And they just don't want to admit they're wrong they don't want to admit that they made a mistake in 2009 when they issued the rod. This project they don't want to say that there was anything wrong with that. And that's what the is reflects nothing was wrong. It's ridiculous if you look at the laws have changed but nothing was wrong. The city back then objected to this project the way they approved it. Well saying but nothing was wrong. So, that's what we're up against. Can we thank you Steve, can we, can we be careful about clarifying acronyms that we use like EIS and rod and, and other rod is record of decision. Okay, yes is the environmental impact statement. The record is the sets what this project is going to get look like and what they're going to, what the feds in the state are going to agree to with the project. I'd like to clarify too, Steve that the letters EIO are just simply meaningless. And I just threw that throw those in just. You know, what are you going to do. Okay, it took a super fun site for them for the state and the, and the feds to change the direction of the project. Also, think about this for a moment there there has been change. The original concept back in the 1950s was a ring road around Burlington, and that that the Champlain Parkway was to bring a four lane highway right through the south end through the waterfront and connect up to the I-89 and ultimately through the circumferential highway back to I-189. As I think we all know that the section through the waterfront died decades ago. The circumferential highway died last decade. And this is a remnant. Think about this that they spent $30 million building a four lane highway between the interstate on Shelton Road right to Home Avenue. You go down there it's the road to nowhere $30 million. What are we going to do with that $30 million roadway that 60 foot wide that can handle four lanes of traffic. We're going to grind it up and recycle it. So times do change. The real threat that the project has right now is the union of the, the three opponents of which to represented here today from our racial justice and pine street at the US District Court. While the while Steve is correct that the egos are involved here. There's also a facts of life that are involved here. The facts of life are these leaders do not want a six year court process in which they might lose. We hope. Right. We are, we are confident that they will lose. So, at some point, those egos are going to result as we have asked for now for years are coming together a collaborative approach to a resolution so that this project can be revised and change you know basically improve the King Maple neighborhood not destroy it. And, you know, preserve the angles we brook and the natural areas around it. And of course get right now part of what started us all was the walk by council who endorsed the pine street coalition proposals, because there's not an inch of sidewalk and there's not an inch of bikeway. I think Burlington think there is nothing more popular in Burlington than walking and biking, yet there is the, there is a degrading of walking and biking in the, in the parkway.  So, you know, people, it will be brook, the, the walking bike. And we haven't even talked about shutting off the connection between south and, and Hanifords and make McDonald's of all things, the people in the south end if they want to get there at the parkways bill, they got to go out this to Sheldon road. I mean, you cannot, if you sat down and try to design a roadway today that works against the economic, social, environmental, all the code words you want to use the current parkway design is the one you would come up with. And we won't have it. So here's, here's the question that seems really key to me is, how would the right way proposal that pine street and the racial justice alliance are putting forward, address the concerns of the king and maple neighborhood. What, what would you do differently in this movie when you rewrite the script to address those concerns. Well, I'll, I'll just say this, I think that there's a, there's, there's a couple parts to that question. Because I'm, I'm, I'm kind of, I'm quasi reluctant to answer the question in this photo, you know, without a, without a approach of just looking at the total project. The reason why is, is because the constituencies that I represent are not the constituencies constituencies that Tony and and in Judith and Cindy and Steve representing and there's always this tendency when we start talking about one vested interest that there's this division and that and that's how they get it every time they divide. So I just want to make it clear before I say what I'm going to say is, is that, you know, it's important that the totality of the project be considered. You know, I think it's important for us to consider when we come from, you know, when we come off 189 across home to to Flynn, that it's important to get back out on to the time street, you know, because that that's that avoidance of that particular area down there is is important just as important in in in some ways to some people as it is to take up, you know, over at, you know, right as we come into the, I'm just going to call it the 200th block of to right approach in the soda plant. What's the name of that road Tony. What is it Kilburn. Yeah. So that it's just as important to take Kilburn to the I think I believe it's to the west, and then to arc it around and join it into what is now battery street so basically if you imagine. I think the map was just up a moment ago if you imagine from right around that silver and area, just creating a little arc that goes around if you can put the arrow on it. Yeah, avoid that completely avoid, but that's, you know, that's a part of it. The other thing is, if you go through English be what, what, what you have is is you have a situation coming up. I believe it's lakeside that creates a disaster back over at pine street. You know, so there's, there's, there's all kinds of reasons why this project makes sense. It's done the right way. And I think that the, your question, although appreciated how to circumvent the maple king neighborhood is important. You know, I think the right way is more important that we get that we get this thing that we because what they have done in order to prevent having a conversation about the right way is first they get convoluted, they being DPW, the, the folks over at the trans and I guess it's endorsed or fingerprints on from the fed isn't that oh let's first talk about. Let's just, you know, let's create a larger discussion we want to talk about all of the projects that are happening in the north on the south end, which, which to me, because I live on the north side of town, I live in the hood. So, I mean, so it's one of those things where why are we talking about south end projects anyway, I digress, but the point is that they've created this whole different conversation. And then, and then through that conversation, they've decided not to talk about certain parts of this project at all. They've decided to, you know, make empty commitment about this whole arc that I just showed you at Kilburn, that somehow suggest that the decision will be later on the road whether they're actually when and how they're going to actually do that. I think it's really, I think it's really important for us to stick together on this. I think we need we need to be talking about the right way as a whole project, and under no circumstances should this project be completed. And without that, what we call the real yard enterprise that is that that little arc there, Andy, that's, there's, there's no way that we should complete this project under any circumstances without without that being first being done first. Correct. Tony, I hear you. You know, and it goes back to the original concept of this road. This road was always going to bypass neighborhoods, always. King Street Maple and includes home and Flynn. That was what it was going to do. The fence changed that in 2009. Up until then, that's what this was about. So the idea that it's going through King Street. That's a new concept, something that I don't think the city has ever agreed with. And as Mark says, the solution is to go back to including something like the rail enterprise project in the project, which was in earlier versions of the city's project that took it out. So we want to go back to that and got to remember though again it's a whole project that isn't just one piece, but the goals of going around neighborhoods that was a primary goal. And the feds just ignored that in 2009 when they approved and insisted that it be this version or no version that included going right through King Street. One of the arguments that the city is making now is that the real yard enterprise loop that you've been highlighting would take a number of years to be permitted and and planned. And we would delay this project considerably is that something that you see as an as an obstacle or a problem. It is what it is. You're going to get it right. It's not an excuse for doing it wrong. Yeah, let's talk about that for me. I think because I think that there, there is this, this, this, this narrative that is created, you know, when there is a political or economic power, and, and there are, there's, you know, certain groups of folks who are her literally voiceless. In, in what we, what we find in this, this is a, a, a racially systemic thing that you will always see is is there, there is this, this false narrative of urgency, and that that sense of urgency is always determined by the folks with the political and economic power in those folks who do not have political and economic power, their, their sense of urgency is, is never really taken very seriously. So this, this, these false emergencies that we hear, you know, all of the time. Oh, we got to hurry up we got it. If there was a big, if, let's just say for example I'll just give you one example right now we've got an unprecedented of us at the, at the statewide level as a result of our funding. Okay. There is, there is a sense of urgency in, in many of these communities across the state in terms of their economic and despair. What's going on is, is that there's this statewide tour that's happening with the speaker and the pro tem, and they want to take their time and figure out if and when and how they want to spend it. You see what I'm getting at here. This is a 60 year project. So, you know, I think it's ludicrous. But it's actually ridiculous for us or anybody else to be sitting around, having a conversation about the implications of another three to five years. And this project was actually planned in the 50s. For us to be to say, well we're in a, we're in a hurry. And the other thing is, is there's this whole again it's all about money. It's either. We're going to be may lose money, or there's a prospect, the prospect of gaining money may no longer exist. That's it in a nutshell, we see it all the time. You know, I don't want to, I don't want to bash, I don't want to bash capitalism, but greed is a problem. So, the thing is, is that, you know, even the decision at the city console is driven with one consideration, notwithstanding, I'm not ignoring their fiduciary responsibility I'm a smart guy. The point here is, is those that decision is being made out of one thing and it is literally a threat. And it's well documented and reinforced just recently with documentation from the state, as well as the fed saying if you guys don't do this, you're going to have to pay us some ridiculous amount of money that doesn't make any sense like $45 million or something like that. So the city console is facing making a decision, facing their constituents and making a decision in saying, let the cards fall where they may bring it on. I will put people above money. No matter what you threaten me with, I'm not going to let that go that takes some intestinal fortitude, some political will. Unfortunately, we're not seeing that we're not seeing it happen. Yeah. They are using the threat that somehow the money will have to be paid back. There's one scenario where the money would have to be paid back. There are infinite number of scenarios where it doesn't so they're focusing on the one thing which there's so many ways and I'll let that happen that it's crazy. And they're holding that up as the boogeyman but the truth is, there's a million ways to do this and not pay it back. There's one way to not do it and have to pay it back. We have infinite choices here if we want to take them. We don't have to worry about the one possibility of having to pay it back when there's so many other ways to do this and not have to pay it back. Just think of the fact that it was Governor Dean who said no to opening the road to nowhere a four lane highway right to the intersection of Home Avenue, and forgetting why he made that decision. In fact, now here we are about 20 years later recognizing that not only was he right but we never needed a four lane highway to begin with. And what the right way people are saying is that we need even a more scaled down a project, our proposal would cost basically eight to $10 million less than what's being proposed right now. But so on the one hand, if money is important, then we're the ones that are trying to save it. And the federal highway and the egos of the federal highway state and some some city leadership are getting in the way of what is we've what is really a sensible design if we could all come to an agreement. I agree with entirely that the timing and view of a half century project of waiting three or four years, we just spent two years spinning our wheels. That's two years. And if it's six to seven years to get the right way, excuse me the railroad enterprise project done so we immediately improve the conditions in King Maple, which would be a huge victory and a huge benefit to a community which 26% live in poverty and 30% don't even have access to a car and a dependent on walking and transit. That's a huge victory for for for that low income neighborhood who were forced by the federal highway agency to accept a project that cuts them in two. And that decision was made in 2009. We need to get sensible here since 2010 or so when the record decision was issued. Where have they been. What have they done with the last 10 or 11 years, all of a sudden it's an emergency. They dragged their feet they didn't take opportunities they could have had when they were presented to them. And now they're all of a sudden saying got to have it fast. You just whittled away 11 years and you could have done so much more with this. So I think is we're all saying the argument that it might take a little more time well to get it right it's probably gonna, and they have frittered away this time. So far, John about 11 or 12 years now and done nothing. Can the federal government and the Vermont Agency of Transportation sit there with a straight face and be upset because the King Maple neighborhood, which they decided would have this parkway cut it into that somehow 10 years later there would be some people would say well we really don't want to do that. And they made the decision to do that, not not the city. It was purely a federal and state decision. Correct. Why are you optimistic you expressed some optimism before why are you optimistic that the district court would rule in favor of the pine tree coalition the racial justice alliance and 40th Burlington where it's you know, we've made some gains, you know, in spite of all of our the fact that the railroad enterprise project the connection between Kilburn and battery street, that little arch, which bypasses the King Maple neighborhood. That's a hundred and 80 degree turn by the federal people who say, Oh, we'll fund that now we think that's a good idea we'll give you $20 million to do that. But that is, that is because that is because the pine tree coalition innovation center and Vermont racial justice alliance brought back pressure to the to the parkway as it's currently designed. That's a huge victory in the in the mix of things people will forget it. But if we're talking about a change. As Mark, as Steve talked about the egos involved, there has been some ego shift in the last two years. And if we go back back to court in a few weeks. There may be some additional shift because the entire current design could be stopped. The project would be stopped but that the design changes where we're advocating for which would relate to environment walking biking, you know, to environmental justice to the preservation of angles of work. Those are the issues we're going to court on, and we've been working on it for a while. Where can people find out more information I want to, before we end and I want to get this in so that we can run out of time. Where can people follow closely and get more information about what's going on with with this project and with these proposals. Probably not from DPW. Online safe streets, Burlington.com. Again, that's just safe streets, Burlington one word. And if you search on Facebook pine street coalition, you will you'll come to our website that brings a lot of historic information up. I've been to the Vermont Racial Justice Alliance website also I believe this material there. Mark, is that true. Yeah, and you can, and I would say just Google right way and, and it'll land you on our pages that we posted and there's also will be will continue to post some of the updates. I think, and maybe we might want to take it offline but I'm there. I think I think the outcome of here is is the outcome here is really not a binary outcome is really important to understand that that this thing can go in multiple directions still at this point as part of the reason why we've agreed to show up and have this conversation there's still a lot of folks who can see there's a lot of folks who don't know about census tracks 10 and 11 who don't know about the Superfund site who don't know about this rule Chris idea who don't know about the mischaracterization of the original EIS of the limited scope EIS the limited scope EIS is just a mischaracterization of the representation of the poor in the black and brown folks that are in the space a lot of folks don't know that a lot of folks don't know and understand you know how this thing is playing out and I think as folks do begin to dial in they're going to increasingly understand more that this is a this is a a textbook example of profit over people and these people happen to be black and brown and poor people and you couldn't hit these people on a dartboard if you tried 20 times if you were throwing darts. That's how difficult it is to find a project that bifurcates this neighborhood in this state. So I think once folks once that becomes increasingly more. I think in in a blogosphere and folks begin to see and understand that I'm confident that not just in the court but maybe even there are several other ways this thing can get derailed and I'm still optimistic that it's just not going to go forward because I guess you know, call me an optimist but I'm not seeing this kind of wrong stand not here not on our watch. I actually think that that is a great place to put a pin in this discussion for now. Put a ball on it. And, and I like to thank you all mark Hughes Tony Reddington Steve good kind, and thanks CCTV for providing this space to talk about what's going on with the right way proposal in the Champlain Parkway. There's obviously much more to talk about, but I think that we will continue in other other forums and, and perhaps also on another program on CCTV. This is Andy Simon with save open space Burlington and we'll see you next time.


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