Okay, beautiful. So let's have you continue defining this for us like with here in the dock. So we kind of talked about this permanent cessation while conscious. Okay, well we'll go to the unaltered state of consciousness. So another way to state this is that everything before the natural state, which is what's always been the case, is an altered state of consciousness. The egoic state is an altered state of consciousness. It's insanity, psychotic. You think your thoughts are real? You think you're a separate person? That's an altered state. Let's take a moment to seriously make sure that this is being understood because this is basically reversing the entire paradigm of the world on its head. So it's basically saying that the ego or separation and all the conditioning and attachments of that contracted energy entity, that is the altered state. That is the altered state of consciousness is believing that I am a separate finite physical entity in a world full of other separate finite physical entities. That's the altered state. And then that's a really big paradigm shift. Okay.  But that's also an altered state. And we're good at meditation. We should experience genres and kind of linear awakenings, even, you know, merging with God, divine union, cosmic bliss, all the stuff you read about spirituality. From the perspective of an ego state, that is much more true and much more spacious and much more relaxed state. And unaltered. Yes. But now that's still an altered state of consciousness. Yes, it's more unaltered. Yes, a little bit more altered, but it's still altered. Yeah, yeah. It's more altered, but they're both altered. Yes. They're both altered state. But it's giving you a taste of the unaltered, which is then what gives you the North Star in the roadmap. Yeah, right. So after you disidentified for all the altered state of consciousness and slip into the natural state, that's the unaltered state of consciousness. That's total sanity. Because clinging on to universal mind or the individual mind is the same thing. From the unaltered state of perfect equanimity, where all sensations are equal footing, you look at your past levels of identification to realize that attachment to the solidity of the ego versus the attachment to the solidity of mystical experiences are actually the same thing. They both create cleanings of suffering. That's why the Buddha said that not only do you have to let go of the material realm, the form realm, you have to let go of the formless realms. Yes. Yeah. It stops in the golden chain of life and traps them into experiences. But I will go ahead. I just wanted to briefly say that just to put a little flag in it, just that it is still really important as people are stuck in physicalism to point people towards the formless, towards consciousness. Of course. Yes, yes, yes. That's why the stages are there. Yes, yes, yes.  But here's the thing, here's the point that's very important. See, the people who hasn't experienced the non-experience of our true nature, when they only have the egoic state in the mystical experiences to compare their experiences with, they're always going to be confused. They're always going to think that the outer state of mystical experiences, the God consciousness on psychedelics or meditation or spontaneous glimpses, temporarily transcending the self. They're always going to think that's enlightenment. Yeah. Yeah. They're always going to confuse that with enlightenment because they have, they've only got the two outer states to compare it from. Of course, the mystical experience is all the unity consciousness. Yes, yes. It's always going to be more enlightened than the ego. Yes, yes. There's more to the disidentified. Yeah. So that's why I didn't go attached to the mystical experiences and says this is it. Yeah. Yeah. And before you have a realization, which is the locking of the true nature, it's really, really difficult to see this because I've been trying to tell people the difference between mystical experiences, which is the temporarily transcendence of the self, which the self always comes back because it's not realization yet, versus the permanent drop in the way of the self, which is a huge difference there. Yeah. If you haven't had a realization and realization can only occur like naturally. There's no realization on a psychedelic trip on your heart. I mean, maybe there is, but like it's so filtered, you can't extract it. Right. So when I keep trying to tell people that, dude, there is a difference between a realization and an experience between dropping away of the center permanently versus just temporarily transcending the self, because when you still have a center in the head, no matter how crazy this experience is, it's still going to be filtered through whatever solidity that's in the head. If you're in the beginning of the path, this solidity is your entire body mind. Once you get to the very end of the path, this solidity could be this tiny little atom somewhere like in the head somewhere. Yeah. We're going to get in the way of infinity closing in on itself into this figure eight loop and 99% and 100% is quantum. It's a different order together. Yeah. Oh, man.  So, so what is, what is wisdom? What is insight and wisdom? If I, if I may, if I may read the I'll pull it up for people. And for people that are getting kind of confused and scared, I'll just remind you one thing. Wisdom is not something you accumulate with the mind or something you read in spiritual books. Wisdom is taking away all the falsehood until you left with what is. Now we talk about a lot of crazy ships, like, you know, all your awareness is going from 720 to 1080 to 4k to 360, 8k.  How do I get that? Well, let me ask you, is reality, panoramic 360? If so, then that's what you are. It's always been the case. It's always been the case. Does the universe have a center point? If not, then you don't have a center because you're the universe. It's very simple. And this is the sentence Relief of being literally nobody. Relief of being literally nobody.  And it's just this relief of not needing to be anyone, a relief of knowing that you're nothing along with everything and that you can just peacefully relax all of the contracted conditioning that you built up over the years of wanting to be seen as an individual wanting to be seen as a somebody. Although we are still that spark of the infinite like we mentioned, but all of that contracted energy that built up around all of the conditioning from your childhood and all of the things of wanting to impress other people and to have all of this money and success and fame and oh, if I just or being a spiritual cunt, just exactly, especially that one has been so important for me recently to be practicing that one more and more of just letting go of needing to be seen as a spiritual cunt. Seriously. So the relief of being literally nobody. The ultimate attainment is non attainment. The last layer of the dream, the brahman. Once you get so deep, you become brahman. That's the last layer of the dream.  This is the brahman. Everything's brahman. But even that could be said anywhere from ultimate attainment is non attainment. But this is when you have to reflexively switch lenses. Okay, on Monday, I'm going to use the emptiness lens. I'm going to go, I'm going to have a Tinder day and this Tinder day is the Buddhist. Oh, I'm going to put on an empty list list. Hey, this is going to be a rising brahman. I finish it. Okay, let's go. You go have a Tinder day and this girl is, she studied Hinduism. You put on a brahman lens. You're like, everything's unified mind. Okay, we just, we just mentioned this one. The relief of being literally nobody, which is great, the dying into the ordinary. Oh, we haven't mentioned that one. Yeah. That one's so important, really. I can only relate to that one from a direct experience where you're literally, it's like, it's kind of like being a permanent aftertrip, except it's deeper than that because in the natural state, there's neither an experience nor a mind, right? So it's even deeper than mine for expensive, but it's very similar to beyond asset all the time where you look at anything at all, you just see the entire universe in there. You don't see infinite like zooms. You just, you just, it's just timeless.  And then there's just no time. You don't have to go anywhere. And that's, that's your moment to moment experience in a natural state. Yeah.  And each moment you're being reborn and being reincarnated.   And then, but then as long as I move the toilet, there's another, a new dimension.  And you kind of look at this a little bit where you literally every moment it feels like you're really dying into this disjointed frame. And then after a while, it just becomes more stabilized.  Yeah. That's what you feel the most alive. You should extend the duality between distance and non-distance, between life and death. Gosh. And don't fear this process of dying. Know that it's a natural part of the spiritual awakening and that it's only going to make you an even better steward and shepherd of the reality awakening to its nature. It'll only make you more pure in the process. Yeah. Yeah. Well, spiritual speaking of the process again, there are two major shifts on the spiritual path. One is the move from ego to being, the move from ego to awareness or consciousness or God. All that's being stuff. The second move, which is that's painful. That's dying for a lot of people. That's literally death. That's very difficult. Dark nights, dark nights after dark nights. The second stage, sorry, the second phase, the second shift from being, from existence, from infinity to non-being to nothingness, that hurts even more because you're letting go of even God. Yeah. That hurts even more because you're letting go of this infinite field that you thought to be you. You have to decide anything from that and that hurts even more. That's why most people don't make it that far. I always say that waking up or dissolving the ego is awakening. Dissolving even God is the natural state, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. Now, I'm not making a claim about the ontological existence of God or not. Oh, that's completely yeah. Yeah. We're not. And you could, you could, if you were just using the word God to reference the highest or the absolute, you could just use it to reference the coin that we've been talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Which is that one side is emptiness, the other side is infinity. Yeah. That's why this picture there, because in a natural state, you can call yourself a monkey or a god or human being or a table, whatever. It doesn't matter. Like you go, sorry. The difference is during the, during the God phase, I can feel my ego popping up when I look at the word God or when I communicate with another spiritual con and we're talking about God realization, I could feel my ego popping up. This is because we associated the word God with the capital S self. This is why versus if you also were to associate God with emptiness or with no self or with Dow or the natty state, then you could say that this is God in the shape of the coin of emptiness and infinity with the, you could say consciousness or awareness as this primary attribute of the power to know. Yeah. So, so in the natural state, you could, when I say I'm God or I'm awareness or I'm monkey or I'm pranking, it makes absolutely no difference. There's no trigger. There's no preference. There's no contraction of any of these. There it is. That's the only difference really. It's all the same. The difference is the contraction identification. That's it. Yes. Yeah. So we're not moving any stages. Okay. The disappearing into the dark light of the absolute, you said this was a Nisargata, the Maharaj phrase. Yeah. Also use the dark light to describe no self because like we said before, it's almost, it's the combination of infinity versus nothingness. Yeah. So it's both dark and light. Beautiful. It's both disappearing and dying into the actual ordinary while manifesting this infinite consciousness and field of experience. Perfect.  Well, closing the infinity loop is just the point I've been making about how if there's still a solidity in the body, Mario, anywhere in the field of experience, infinity cannot fully comprehend itself. Yes. Yes. You know how the logo or the animation of the figure eight or the snake cosmic state? Or boros. Yes. Yes. It's only infinity like this, right? If there's a speck in there, it won't close. It won't close. So even that little bit of, even if it's at the level of, even if you've popped beyond the egoic, separate conditioning to even awareness or consciousness, consciousness, it says, even if even if you're there that even if you've started to taste a little bit of infinity and emptiness and when I if you've tasted it, you'll still have these bits of the separate self that are there. And this is what you're referencing perpetually, which is the difference between getting to the point of sort of like 99% dissolving that all the way down to that. Yeah. Yeah. That's the difference between you as a separate entity, having an experience of awareness, consciousness or the divine versus just reality being itself. It's not okay. It's not a separate entity having the realization of the divine, but it's life recognizing the divine. Yeah, just life being itself. Life being itself. Yeah. Say anything about, you know, this process is saying too much, even say infinity penetrating itself, eternity gazing back itself, it's saying a little bit so much. Okay. Cool. That we just covered that as well. And that's the difference between that, you know, how people get into the later stages of Janas, they do get into infinite consciousness, but the teacher would tell them, Hey, you still stuck in the golden chain of the formless realm because they're experiencing infinite consciousness as a meditator, versus the solution of the meditator, where there's only. Yeah, exactly. So rather than having the experience of the divine as a separate entity, it's life itself. Just, that's it. That's it. Again, it's a difference between transcendence of the self, which is the quick glimpse. And this glimpse lasts for months or five seconds versus the permanent drop in the way of the self. Yeah. Beautiful.  And that's what this unit locality is. So dependent origination is very interesting because it's basically the notion that everything is interconnected, everything is interpenetrated, everything is, you know, co-dependent rising, right? So without you there, there won't be a me here. And we're all connected to infinite webs of conditioning. And the reason why dependent origination is never talked about is because without realizing emptiness and no self, you cannot perceive dependent origination in real time. And then without perceiving dependent origination in real time, you're always going to be standing on the ground. For example, the move from ego to consciousness is understanding that the self, the thinker, the ego is just another thought. Right? Before you used to think that the Frank Yang is the thinker and this thing is popping out thoughts. But then after stream entry, you realize that this Frank Yang character, this avatar is just another thought, no different from any other thoughts. It's not the generator of thoughts. It's not the creator of thoughts, not the thinker of thought is in itself just another thought that's empty with no one behind it popping in and out of nothing. No different from any other thought. That's stream entry. To move from stream entry to the later stages, you have to apply that process of self-inquiry into the big self, into even the God mind. Now, if dependent origination is true, then consciousness or the ground of being, whatever ground of being that you identify yourself with, whether that's God mind or Brahman, that's also dependent originating. Because consciousness is the result of the dependent origination between the observer, perception, the object of perception. It's dependent on all kinds of stuff to be able to generate this experience of consciousness.


Hey guys, it's Nate, AKA The Foot Accountant. Welcome back to the channel. Brand new promo coming today to FIFA 22 Ultimate Team named Team of the Year Warm Up Series. Now, this is brand new. We have never seen anything like this. So we're gonna be taking a look at a lot of things today, talking through a lot of scenarios as to what this promo might be, what kind of content we could be seeing, I guess over the next week, because still, Team of the Year voting is going on right now. Even though this is a Team of the Year, it looks to be a Team of the Year branded promo since they show Team of the Year on the loading screen. The voting for Team of the Year is not yet over. So this seems to be, it's gonna be some sort of pre-Team of the Year promo today that is gonna lead us into the big Team of the Year promo, which would ideally be and probably is one week from today, next Friday on FIFA 22. So Team of the Year nominees are in discussion, right? Of course, that's rolling back to FIFA 20, where they released all of the nominees who are in the Team of the Year vote into packs that does not look likely for today. And kind of what we were imagining earlier this week, what our next week heading into Team of the Year might look like on FIFA, a lot of SBCs and a lot of objectives. And this warm-up series promo kind of fits that bill. So we're gonna talk about a lot of things today, try to fit it into a short amount of time. So if you're excited for this new promo, because it's brand new, there's a lot of unknown. What in the world is Team of the Year warm-up series going to be? Smash the thumbs up on it and of course, subscribe if you're new. Now we have a little bit of information already from our leakers and from some sources and just from some analytical thinking about other promos that we have had this year. But this is some of the stuff that we know already. This is of course the loading screen and one of our trusty leakers, trusty, tweeted out that this promo is kind of based around SBC's objectives and especially with SBCs, that's gonna make SBC fodder rise a lot higher in price. So we're gonna take a look at that, but that's kind of what I was imagining as we headed into this Friday. I was thinking that we would have some sort of promo that would be focused on SBCs and objectives as this is a time right before a massive promo like Team of the Year where EA wants to drain people's coins of clubs. They want them to go and do SBCs and for them to lose coins from their club so that they feel like they have to go and open packs and kind of make that pack withdrawal happen right before a ton of packs are gonna be released on the game for Team of the Year, right? It kind of makes sense. They did it earlier this year before Black Friday with a promo called Foot Series. So again, Series was in the name of this promo. Series is in the name of this promo that's coming today. That's one thing that we have in common. Now also what one thing that seems to be in common is there was a lot of objectives and SBCs on the week before Black Friday and there was not a special team of cards in packs and that seems to be similar with what this promo might be coming out today with Warm-Up Series as well. Now the one interesting thing is about this promo that was released in November. You guys remember, right? The David Nara's SBC, the Erie de Vizzi, League of Portugal and EFL Championship, Milestone Squad Foundation Series cards, right? These cards that are still in objectives on the game, they said on this promo page, more Squad Foundation's players will be released in Foot 22 Season once the first series is over. So I don't think that this promo Warm-Up Series has a direct correlation with these Squad Foundations because as you can see, these are still out for another week. All of these cards, right? Uribe, Openda, a lot of you guys have done these and finished them off already. I don't grind these that much so I still have them here but it sounds like the promo today for Warm-Up Series is gonna be similar to this but it's not exactly this promo. So that's very interesting to know about that and to hear about that but since this is a team of the year related promo as well, how is team of the year going to tie in to an SBC and objective based promo before a team of the year is even out? Well, there's a couple things that people are seeing that might have a little bit of connection with that. We have some new packs added to the code and this is pretty big because I think this kind of reminds me of last year during team of the year they released position specific packs and what it's gonna do is, I think what they're gonna do with these packs is they're gonna put them out as either objectives or SBCs and they're gonna make you want to go after them and then open them up during team of the year to try to pack certain team of the year cards. From those positions, right? So you have an 83 plus attackers, three players pack then you have it also for midfielders and defenders and then you have an 81 plus attackers, three players pack for midfielders and defenders as well and then you also have an 81 attackers, players pack which is just one 81 plus. You also have an 85 times three attackers, midfielders and defenders pack as well. So that's very interesting. There's like two 81 pluses, an 83 plus and an 85 plus so what I really think this next promo and this next week is gonna be about is E is gonna release a bunch of SBCs and objectives to try to get us to grind the game and spend a little bit of coins to get these sorts of packs that are specifically tailored for when they release team of the year cards, right? Because when they release team of the year they will be releasing them in sets, right? They'll do goalkeeper and defender then they'll do midfielders, then they'll do attackers, right? So I think what these packs are kind of designed to do is get us ready and also kind of get us in that saving packs kind of timeframe, right? They want us to save packs, save our rewards, go out and do SBCs and save those packs for team of the year and make team of the year all about packs and trying to pack one of those team of the year items and this kind of plays into that. So this is fun, right? This is cool and you know as long as these aren't super duper expensive people are gonna be willing to pay a decent amount to go out and do these. It's just kind of like a gamble pack, right? Like we had the 84 plus player pick released yesterday on FIFA. It's sort of the same thing, like oh my goodness I would have an increased chance at maybe packing a team of the year midfielder if I do the 83 plus midfielders three players pack SBC if that were to come out, right? So that's what I think this promo is gonna have a lot of in it. Now it's not just gonna be these SBCs for the whole week. It sounds like there's gonna be some pretty big time flashback and maybe some other player SBCs and other objectives that are releasing as well as a part of this. So let's look through a few of those. Now this card right here, this is not confirmed stats but this player, Sarr from Chelsea, the French center back, this is leaked and confirmed to be today by one of our trusty leakers, Foot Sheriff, a Premier League Milestones player. I believe it will be this card design and it'll be an objective item. He's gonna have above 80 pace but that's a French center back in the Premier League that will be free just grindable through objectives. I don't know if it's gonna be through a friendly or through squad battles or whatever but this is one of the cards that we are expecting to see on this game today. It's a little bit of a surprise because we have all the leagues kind of represented in this Milestones section already. We already have a Premier League League player. If I scroll down here, Premier League League player, we already have Manquio and this guy's out for two more weeks so it seems like they're gonna maybe do a set two or a round two of this somehow but that Sarr card is one of the leaked cards to be dropping today on Friday in the game. Now another SBC that I think is coming out today, this is really unrelated to the promo but Raheem Sterling, Player of the Month, this would be the day that a Player of the Month would be released on a Friday. I expect this SBC to be released pre-6 p.m. I think it'll be out before the 6 p.m. content drop or whatever time content drop is for you and that's gonna be an interesting card. There's a lot of Premier League, as you'll notice for potential SBCs today and we also have another flashback SBC. Two more flashback SBCs that have been leaked to be coming soon but the one in order of how they've been leaked, the one that would potentially come first would be Gundewan and of course we've had a decent flashback SBC as of yesterday with the Pato SBC. This is another one that might be coming out very soon. These stats are not confirmed but I would say this is one of the highest chances of a card that we could have today. I think that since it's a promo Friday, especially if there's not players in packs which it sounds like there's not going to be players in packs as a part of this promo, then I think it's almost 100% chance that they're gonna drop an SBC player and an objective player to give people on FIFA something to grind today on the game. Now, there's one more flashback SBC that has leaked but I don't know if it's going to be today or on the weekend or sometime in the next week but it is this striker Icardi and evidently he is gonna have a massive boost. He's going to be four star, four star and especially for this Icardi SBC for the SAR item and for the Gundewan, you've already seen a lot of people go out on the market and buy cards to link to these players. That's one of the biggest things right now that has moved on this market and on this game. If you take a look especially at this SAR item, if you wonder why he's the second most popular card on footman at the moment, that's because he's getting an objective card, a special card in FIFA today. You've got Gold Kante, he was risen up over 10,000 coins. His item is up a lot. The other very popular card that people have invested in is the Reese James headliner card. Let's see if I can find that. I know it's on here somewhere but Reese James headliner went up a decent amount in price. I actually don't even see him which is kind of crazy but let me search him up and show you how his price went up a lot. Reese James headliner, 87 rated. He was like 109,000 coins. As you can see, he was like 109,000 coins and he exploded up to 125 where he is right now. Also the Chelsea goalkeeper, Eduard Mendy has gone from about 90 or 100,000 coins I believe he was. He was at 89,000 coins and he spiked all the way up now to where he is at 112K. People have invested big time for this brand new player SAR that is coming out today so I'd be very careful with buying any more of these as I, you know, it's an objective player and it's really hype, it's a primary center back but for a lot of this stuff especially where the market is right now not a ton of people are spending too many coins on teams and a lot of people are rocking on tradeables they've sold their squads and they're waiting to buy ahead of team of the year so I don't know that these cards would go a crazy amount higher since they've already been bought up and invested in so much so I would just be pretty careful with that and then with the Akari flashback people have already started buying some players for that as well. Angel Di Maria, his numbers up item was like 290K and he is now up like 40,000 coins. He had 296, spiked all the way to 335 and now he's back up again to around that 335 range so there's been a lot of people investing off of these leaks so just be very careful if that is you I would recommend selling into the hype for sure because you never know if an SPC is gonna be good value or if it's gonna be over priced but it seems like this is a guarantee for today this is a guarantee for today and then this would be the most other probable SPC unless they would release Akari first instead of Gundawan but this would be a really cool card and a lot of people would be excited about it so I think those are all SPCs and cards that we will see very soon some of those being today some of them being in the future now again we talked about this promo not containing cards in packs and one of the things that people are worried about is EA going to release cards in packs it really seems like they're not it seems like all signs are pointing towards they're not gonna put cards in packs because as of right now we don't have a card design for these team of the year nominee cards they released these team of the year nominees in FIFA 20 in packs they did not do it last year they did honorable mention team of the year but that was completely different but in FIFA 20 and if you don't know what team the year nominees are basically there's 80 different nominees that are in the voting for team of the year and in FIFA 20 what they did was they gave every single nominee a special team of the year card that was one rating higher and one in-game stat everything was plus one from their gold card they just gave them a cool card design and a dynamic image and they were expensive they were very packable very high pack way and it crashed the market like crazy so of course people will remember that and they're wondering if that's gonna be coming out today well as of right now there is no card design that has been added to the code as far as I am concerned that would mean these cards are coming into packs today and especially since we haven't had people talk about it and like our leakers they haven't been talking about cards in packs or be careful with the market and I feel like this would be a totally different conversation today if they had if they knew that there were cards coming in packs then we would be talking about it right and we would know that it's coming so since leaks are such a huge portion of the game right now and since we don't have a leak talking about cards coming into packs and we don't have like the quality search filter remember how headliners was in here for like three or four days before the promo even came out we don't have team of the year or team of the year nominee cards showing in here at all so I'm really not expecting any of those cards to be in packs now if EA wanted to be really slimy they could there is a I would say this is like an extremely, extremely small chance but just to throw it out there if EA really wanted to do some slimy stuff they could release old cards into packs you know kind of like a foot player days if you guys remember that I really don't think that's gonna happen I think it's very, you know that would not be EA does not want this to be a pack based in what cards can I pack type of promo they want this to be gearing up for team of the year which is all about the packs so I think that there's really not gonna be any worry about what is in packs today on this game so that's kind of what the promo is gonna be about right so really today on Friday we're gonna learn more too because EA I'm sure is gonna be releasing some information about what this promo is gonna be some specific wordage and if there's more than just saving up some of those packs for team of the year and getting some cool flashback players and some cool objective objectives and other SBCs then we'll figure that out today but again market-wise as we look for a content kind of perspective today on the game yesterday the market moved a lot especially around the Pato SBC that's how I would expect the market today on FIFA to be moving as well I mean I don't know if there's gonna be panic selling because of course you know unless we have a big SBC leak for today and you know we hear some more information heading into the content drop that we don't know right now when I'm recording this video then I don't think the market's really gonna have too much panic selling right we're not expecting the lightning rounds we're not expecting SBC fodder cards to drop because it really seems like there's not gonna be a lot of supply through this promo so I don't really see why people would panic sell today the only reason people might panic sell some cards would be like if we get a Gundawan SBC right a lot of people bought up a guy like Barela you know Barela is 330,000 coins at the moment so you know if there's like a Gundawan SBC you might see some other center midfielders get panic sold or if there's in a Cardi SBC then you might see some other strikers you know drop in price a little bit because of that one coming out you know watch your Premier League center backs I would say with the SAR item coming out today you might see some movements on those maybe like Virgil Van Dyke headliners card very rare item but also a very popular item 755,000 coins so just keep an eye on some of that stuff today of course with new cards coming out as substitutes for positions that's really where I feel like the market has the biggest amount of potential to move today based off of what SBCs are out if Gundawan comes out and Sterling that's a lot of Manchester City links right probably your Cancelos maybe your Gabriel Jesus cards would rise up a little bit with links to those items so just kind of you know keep that in mind I wouldn't go out and invest in that because again we don't know if Gundawan is coming today if Sterling is projected to be coming but still not a guarantee so we'll really have to see how the SBCs impact the market today on this game but otherwise you know there's not gonna be a ton of market impact besides just people selling cards now SBC fodder that's where there could be some other market movements now some people think that as a part of all of these packs that have been added to the code you know they're gonna you know maybe like especially for an 85 plus times three for each of these you know positions then they might require you know maybe an 83 rated squad or an 84 rated squad for that so your 83s if we take a look at the index people have been investing in some of the lower tier fodder index 83 as you can see went up with the 84 plus player pick yesterday and it's kind of stayed up I think this might travel up further today on Friday as people look to invest into maybe get ahead of the game on some of these types of packs that are shown and added to the code and how they might be released into the game you know these could be packs that are in the store as well these might be packs that EA puts in the store and sells for FIFA points during team of the year not all of them might show up as SBCs are objectives I guess that's something to kind of keep in mind as well so again everybody is talking about like in this tweet he says fodder season right everybody is talking about and expecting SBC fodder to continue to rise because there's no supply and it seems like with more SBCs coming there's just more demand so if you've invested in fodder and you're looking at profits I mean definitely keep holding because this stuff is supposedly just gonna keep rising it all depends on the content but that seems to be how this might be playing out in the next couple of days the only way that would cause like an absolute mental market crash or crazy movements on the game today in my opinion would be a preview pack and EA somehow in some way throwing some crazy cards back in packs that we weren't expecting at all so I just feel like today you know might be there's a little bit of a build up of course is people are you know excited about this new promo since it's related to team of the year we're really gonna have to wait and see how that plays out and what aspects of team of the year are related to this promo that comes out but I'm interested right I'm kinda cool with this because you know give me another week to grind a few icon swaps to grind through a few more objectives and stuff like that to get some things done and you know maybe give people a chance to get their weekend links done early too because I think also after this weekend you're gonna see a lot of dropping on the market as people sell their cards especially if this is a pre-team of the year promo people are gonna be like oh my goodness team of the year is gonna be insane so a lot of people I think are gonna sell the remaining cards that they have from their clubs you know in their main team at the end or later on throughout this weekend as well so that's just kinda something to keep an eye on now really quick we're gonna look back at yesterday this Pato SBC that we mentioned before you know we were hoping that he would have five star skills but this SBC is still making a lot of moves and a lot of people are having a lot of fun with this because it's still a really good card right four star, four star, high low work rates finesse shot trait, really good stats it's a fun item and one of the reasons why you can tell that a lot of people are doing this card again is because Brazilian cards on the game yesterday exploded in price here's a number one example Fred rode to the knockouts right this guy was 230,000 coins yesterday right now 280K on the market I actually traded with a couple of Brazilian icons like all of the versions of Kaka went up yesterday I bought a Garincha at 1.1 mil sold it at 1.23 so a lot of these Brazilian icons are up in price Roberto Carlos was up again the Kaka cards were up is a lot of just Brazilian cards on this game moved because people bought or bought cards to go do the SBC for Pato and they had to link them somehow on their team so this is a really cool card Gigi's the EA I wish they would have done five star skill moves I mean because again earn a special flashback Alex Pato celebrating his 10-11 serious season with Milan right well back in FIFA in that day and age he had five star skills EA Sports all you had to do was give him five star skills and this SBC would be absolutely mental but it's still a fun card I still think I might get this done just for the card collecting sake of this game might be a fun card to have to try out to use here and there maybe for some Brazilian objectives later on down the line just a fun card maybe an MLS squad that sort of stuff so that was a really cool SBC it was fun I just think that it was maybe like seven out of ten on the hype scale for some of us that were expecting to see the five star skills on that card last thing I want to talk about is headliners team too they are going out of packs today some of them went actually lower yesterday with the loading screen and uncertainty about what this brand new warm-up series promo is going to be about Mohammed Salah is down even further he was 1.1 million coins flat so some of these cards are just kind of chilling a lot of them really haven't moved too much Fofana is one that has gone down he was down to actually 840,000 coins there's a bit of panic selling on him I just think that the reason why these cards are down makes sense a little bit because we have a brand new promo that people don't really know much about and we have a lot of leaked SBCs that would pull people's attention away from these headliner cards now I do think that there's plenty of these headliners that will rise out of packs especially since they're live some of these guys have games maybe even today I haven't looked at the sofa score schedule to see what games are today but there's going to be guys playing games today and tomorrow and through the weekend did have live cards and have headliner items so just kind of keep an eye out for that and keep a watch for that as maybe you've invested in some of these I have some of these cards on my transfer list as well I have a couple Raphael Laos I have a couple traps so if these guys were to get sold off even more today that could be a situation where you maybe say okay, these guys are out of packs and they're dropping and they're live cards this might create a scenario where I can maybe make a couple buys here if I want to if you have some more dropping prices than them today so that's just kind of something to keep an eye out for as well but brand new promo coming today really exciting to see what is all involved inside of warm up series as we head into a pre-team of the year promo I don't know, I'm just, I'm very curious excited, curious and hopefully there's a lot of potential with this promo and hopefully EA deliver with some team of the year themed content maybe some really cool flashback SBCs something related to team of the year of years past or something like that so that's the video for today boys if you're excited for this promo hit the thumbs up on the video comment down below if you have any questions and subscribe if you're new it's been Nathan Foot account and I'll catch you guys later peace out


Follow me on Instagram, Twitter, more juicy content. That was specifically what, cause you know, we've traveled a lot together, we've stayed in places together. That's pretty much spot on to the sounds Corbin makes when he's in the bathroom. Follow me on Instagram, Twitter, more juicy content, like he's paid for all sorts of stuff. Threads like button. Today's just gonna forever call it Twitter, aren't you? Yes, yeah. Are you gonna forever correct for some weird reason even though you're not on it? Well, I just find it weird that you, what other businesses you refer to by their former names? Do you still call it HBO Max, even though it's just now Max? I call it HBO. Yeah, that's what I figured. Why wouldn't I?  HBO brand is way bigger than the... So is Twitter, I agree, but that's no longer the business name. I don't care. And nobody else does, except for you. No, no, no, that's not true. Everybody on Twitter still calls it Twitter. Cause we've talked about it, I read a lot of Twitter. I read a lot of news. News doesn't mean people call it that. But it does when the news stories are talking about that. No, absolutely not.  Stop talking about it! Why does it annoy you so much?  Today we got a Karen Johar interview with film companion. Yeah, this is called film companion. Yes, with Anupa Chopra, which is actually, this is actually, just happened a few days ago. The, at least it was posted a few days ago and so it's post Rocky Arani coming out. If you haven't seen our Rocky Arani review, go watch that. I loved it, Rick liked it, nowhere near as much as I did. But yeah, mine was a lower case like. Yes, but I love this movie and a lot of people sent us this interview cause he goes in depth about Ranveer, Alia and obviously everything else as a filmmaker and all that. So we got this, sent this quite a bit. And if this is in two parts, I'm sorry, it's a long video. So sometimes people don't like long videos and so they post them in two times. I don't know yet. It might be in one part. Here we go. Pocky needed to be this lovable. That's the greatest synopsis of a film I've ever heard. Because it had to. And I've been feeling this burst of anxiety for the last year and I have been addressing it, but it was at its height at the time of the release week. So, that morning when the film released, I just said, I have to, it's out there now. There's nothing I can do. I just have to like, hope for the best. And how are you feeling right now with the box office, with the rave reviews? What's going on in your head?  The box office is lovely and it's gratifying and it's growing from strength to strength and it's making me smile. I have never received these kind of reviews. I'm not used to them. I'm not used to being reviewed well. There's always a certain level of polarization when my films come. I love that. You either get the two stars and some three and a halfs and fours or threes and all you get like bashed completely and I go back to all my movies and I read those reviews. I think my name is Khan got some good reviews and that time it was like, like I would say 60 to 70% review positive kind of zone. This time there was just like good reviews everywhere and I was like, what is happening? What did I do in May? I made a mistake. I'm not supposed to be reviewed well. I actually, I guess there weren't a lot but I read two or three negative reviews from India. So I don't know. Most are positive. I'm not used to un-liking my film. I'm not used to. This is not true. I mean, yes, I know, but you liked them in retrospect. But this time you liked them in the current mode and then everyone at film companion liked it. I was like, I asked you for all the size number and I haven't yet to speak to me, missed each other because I was like, I went to the office and I was like, Mayank Shekhar liked my film and everyone liked my film then people are writing columns on it. And I was like, and I would go back to where the journey and everything began. But like I was, so at one point, Apura was trying to track the box office collections but as a filmmaker and as an artist, I was kind of so happy to revel in this critical love because I felt like- I've never had it before. Or me and said, I've seen your film twice. I was like, what is going on? To see this film again. I love that for him. I'm like, I'm in the same breath. I got a call from Guru uncle, Mr. Rakesh Roshan. So I was like a massive mainstream filmmaker and the real movement, the alternate movement, poster boy, both called me one after the other. How is this possible? Like what, and you know, when I was just getting these calls, I was like, for a minute it took me a while to, I was absorbing, you know, I was really absorbing and I was trying to kind of figure out what was going on. Like, I was like, this is not what I signed up for. And these things happened, you know? I thought, you know, oh my God, they're going to talk about all the same song and dance and a designer clothes and all of that is of course there. But I'm hoping they see that, you know, because I always feel like I try to do stuff but it never gets acknowledged. Well, it came 2023 to July 28th and good things happened on that morning. So yeah, that's why I was feeling surprised, shocked, annihilated. I want to start with what I love most in the movie which is Rocky Randam. Yeah, yes. He is just fabulous. I mean, we all fell in love, right? I want to understand where did he come from? What was your brief to your writers, to Ishikar, to Shashank, to Sumit about creating this madness? So, you know, in the pandemic, when I decided that I had to put Takht on hold and I wanted to write a love story, I used to be a lot on the gram, you know, and there was a lot of these West Delhi influencers who were kind of speaking and they would of course be content creators as well as influencers. And I was very, very amused by how they were. They were so full of life and they were joyous and yet saying the funniest things, you know. And so I think Rocky came from there. I always wanted to talk about, then it came about like talking about a love story that was not about essentially like people kept thinking it was like two states initially. Because that's about two different communities. Like, you know, then you're talking about the South Indian community and the Punjabi. Mine was never about that. Mine was about patriarchy and matriarchy. It was always the clash of the two where the Punjabi family are essentially patriarchal in nature. Even though they're led by women. Yes, even though they're led by women, which is what I brought in to bring in the irony. And then of course, we all know about Bengali families and how matriarchal they are and how beautiful that is. That is the core thought. And then I went back into a personal story which I don't want to speak about. It's about the family that had an instance that then I put into the film which formed the crux of the Dharamji and the Shabanaji love story. So when all that came together, Rocky needed to be this lovable. He had to be poo but updated. I know, I think he's the most charismatic character you've created after poo. Yeah, so he was like, he was the male poo. And he was like the Ken to Barbie, but like borrowing from poo who is Barbie, you know? So it's like, it's all ironical that Barbie is out here. But like, he was like the perfect kind of Ken who had rough edges. I'm always very amused and impressed by the gym culture, because I feel like boys who go to the gym, I feel like they only talk about that. So I wanted him to be a gym boy. I wanted him to be, you know, but I wanted to be golden hearted. Like he would do, Banda hai, you know, like dost hai. Like, you know, Sab kayaar hai.  But he is the type who would be pouring them all in shop. Like, you know, and buy everything. And buy everything branded, because that's what he thinks is cool. You know, so he'll wear Gucci on his sleeve, but he also has his heart on his sleeve. And that's where he was always. So that was how Shushank and Ishita and Sumit collectively kind of brought Rocky Randhawa to life, you know. But the important thing was, never should he come across annoying. Never should he come across like he's grating on your nerves and overdoing it. It's a fine line, right? With a character like this.  It's too obvious genius that he... I'm going to come to that because it's such a match of actor and character.  Because he is energetic, he is flamboyant, but he doesn't cross the line. How did you balance that? How did he do it? I have no credit to take for that. Ishita wrote some great dialogue. Firstly, she is from Delhi. She's half Punjabi, half Bengali. Oh! Drown up in Delhi. So the dialogue came from... Shashank has grown up in Kolkata. You know, Sumit is Bengali. Right. So it was a clear writer's room of like people who have seen these people. So the idea was to make Rocky always lovable and vulnerable and obviously clueless about the work. He really doesn't know his politics. He doesn't know about anything. And he doesn't care but that's not what his aim is like, you know, to kind of run the family business and just kind of be himself, write his Ferrari and just like, you know, do what he has to do. So I think everyone booked that brief and that memo. But when we gave it to Ranveer and he heard the dialogue, when we were on a Reki Anu for three weeks in Delhi, Ranveer was with me right through those three weeks. On a Reki? On a Reki. We had nothing to do. Reki? What's Reki? He would meet those Instagrammers that we had a long list of people, including Raj, who's also a content creator and has those with us on set right through. He would speak to them. He would pick up Lingo. He would like absorb. He would go everywhere. He would, he would even be driving around Delhi and just getting the flavor. I know what he was doing but he had a process. He was there in Delhi, right through my Reki. Like he never came on the locations but he was in the hotel working with the team. Maybe it's a location scouting? Content creators, influencers, getting the line. He worked it. He created the Rocky Randhawa, you see, is a lot on paper but it's a lot to do with him. Oh yeah. Did he improvise the lines? Yes, yes. Many of them because like, he had picked them up from here in Delhi. And you know, he would like improvise them. Yeah. Never veered away from the script. But the lines were intrinsically very funny also, you know, they are very funny. So he had a lot to play with in any case. Right. But he brought in some of the, you know, like the little bit of the Delhi lingo that he picked up, picked up and he just brought a lot of that of his own self. In many ways, Rocky is an extension of Ranveer's personality. Yeah. But it's the, it's an OTT version of him also. Right. But also Ranveer is an OTT Ranveer. That is, is not like this all the time. Yeah. This is his persona out there. Yeah. He comes here, if he comes to the film companion office, he'll be like, he'll own the room. Yeah. But otherwise he vanished for 12 hours and he'll be in his own, in his thoughts. Like I always tease Ranveer. I don't know how to get in touch with him because he's got a message you don't know when that reply will come. Because he's thinking, he's absorbing, he's, he used to like literally sit for 10, 10 hours on his own just with the character. I don't know what he does, but like, when he comes on set, and I have to tell you an anecdote, the first day we shot with him in character was the first scene he meets Ranveer in the office. By mistake, he had a feeling we were shooting another scene. So he was like, oh, I'm, I'm not prepped for this scene. This is the biggest scene. It's my first scene. I'm meeting Ranveer for the first time. So I was like, yeah, but we're shooting this. That is something we do on the lines. Because he's like, no, I know my lines, but I need to prep. And I realized he was very hyper. So I went up to him and said, what happened? So he's like, you know, when you prepare for history and someone tells you the exam is geography, that's what I'm feeling right now. So I said, okay, take your time. Take four hours. We'll take a break. He went, I don't know what he did. He came back in. How does that happen? I don't know. Like it was done. And when we were on the monitor, I was like, God, he's got it. He just got it. It probably makes sense for the lead in the film though, because it might have just been a mix up. He might have, somebody might have told him. Turn your eye towards him. You'll see that he's really equally hilarious things. And because of Alia's sheer genius, she was organically reacting to them. Because it was, you must also say that because of Rani's reactions, Rocky actually comes across even more intriguing and funny. Because she's giving really like, without giving like over the top reaction, which is really looking like, she's kind of hard, but he's like a creature. But he's kind of sexy in his own way is what the look she gave. Oh, he's very sexy. I told her, I said, she said, what do you want me to do? I said, I kind of want you to think you're turned on at this point. But you don't want to address it because it's kind of like, like you won't be able to admit to yourself that you'll be attracted to a man like this. Right, right. You know, the dance that Ramveer and Totalo is doing is just dola re dola. It was just so spectacular. And just so exuberant and defined and joyous. What was it like to create that? Firstly, there are two homages. I've paid two filmmakers. One is Yastropra with Tum Kiamile. I wanted a Yastropra snow jacket saris song. Where's the chemistry? Where's the chemistry? Let me just be more honest and say copy. I copied a Yastropra song like I copied a Sanjay Bansali. Right, right. And my brief to Amrita was, let's do a Sanjay Bansali. And this is in... We pointed that out. Yeah. In the way that one would say it with a lot of love and respect. We all know it's a copy. I mean, it's copied. It's very much Sanjay Bansali's aesthetic. It's not mine. It's his beautiful aesthetic that I have copied. So I'm very happy to say it, put it out on record. And I don't want anyone to say that I in any way thought that I was doing something different. But the sequences was beyond the set. It was much more than what was... Because of the context, yeah. It was never about the set had to look like that because I wanted that. To the naked eye, it had to look beautiful on Sali-esque. That to me was just the part B of it. The part A was the song, Dola Redola, is to subvert it and to kind of make it... Because it's about also things that I have believed in personally. As a child, I was very effeminate and I used to dance in my own room to hiddhi fan songs, to Lataji songs. And my dad thought it was great. Like he used to think CD dance on Duff Lee Bali and I used to do the Jaya Plata part. And I used to pick up the step and I was doing my step. And my father used to watch and clap. And every time his friends came, he would say, Karan, dance the house of the boy. He would put on the song and I would dance. That's wonderful. And don't only do that. There was anything wrong with that at that time. So I grew up thinking, this is fine.  And you're called all kinds of things and there are terms used. And it stayed in my heart. Because I feel like I grew up with that feeling that I was laughed at for my body language or for my way of being. It breaks my heart. Somewhere Tota's character is borrowed from my childhood. And so when he says, there is no gender. I believe that. I believe that. So I felt that Rockies coming around had to happen because the most so-called misogynist macho man, him doing Kathak, who when you show in the Punjabi sequence everybody when all the family, the Sandeep people laugh, that's what 90% of people would do if you saw a man. People who are not culturally inclined or don't know better, they do that. And they laugh. They find it the feminism funny instead of appreciating it as an art form. That's why we wanted to run full marks to Waibhavi, who actually worked tirelessly on Tota and Ranbir. At one point I remember Hanbir calling me. He says, man, I don't have this in my body. I don't have Kathak in my body. Like I just can't do it. I just can't do it. He was really having a meltdown. Tota was struggling because Tota's not a dancer. He's not a classical dancer. He's an actor who has rhythm. He has party rhythm. But he's Kathak's half-bhavs and hand and everything in perfection. And Waibhavi is a perfectionist. She didn't let them go. Tota was rehearsing for six months. Wow. Six months. Non-stop in Kolkata. Non-stop he had a teacher come and teach him. Ranbir rehearsed for over a month and a half just for that one and a half minute clip. And of course the song that followed. I get it. Because he found it very... He's saying this is possibly the most challenging thing I've ever done. So finally, when it's getting these applause, it's very gratifying for them because they put in the work. We can see but they have to absolutely execute. And that is not easy. So that scene was about the subversion of also about... And going back to Ki Hunar ka koi gender nahi hota. Correct. And that's why I think that you have a... Kind of a feeling of some kind of pride and joy when you see that moment. Like, what did you feel when you saw it? Just like the joy. Yeah, yeah. Just the heart. It's a heart, you know? So that's what it was. And as I said, a lot of it came from my own... I wouldn't call it traumatic. It wasn't that traumatic to me. It was just like... Like my dad was okay with me dancing. The boys in the world. My dad was so... But it just stayed with you. It stayed because I'm like... My dad would clap and applaud. It was such a... As he should. Maybe he didn't know what he was reacting to. I don't even know whether he realized that he was... That at that time in the late 80s, late 70s, early 80s that his son was dancing to all these songs. It could appear really unusual, is the word. But he never thought it was. Yeah. It was. You know, but... Kind of my old time favourite moment. And spoiler alert everybody. This is going to be a spoiler filled conversation. It was the kiss between Dharamji and Shabana. Okay, I did not see that coming. I don't think anyone did. There was an audible gasp. Alright, everybody was like... Like that. Okay, and it was just so lovely because you're acknowledging that desire and love has nothing to do with age. Of course. And cinema... Everywhere around the world is notoriously ageist. It is about like... Only young people get to feel a certain way. Shut up, old man. Let's see what it is.  Two great veterans just doing... Performing with absolute aplomb. No questions asked. Robert De Niro and Meryl Streep kissed. They're old. They can't do that. But I've always seen... Firstly, one of my all-time favourites is Abhinaj Aochhodke. Absolutely. And there is no greater love song. Yes, there is. Kintil abhi bhara nahi. So it had to be that song. It had to be their song. Because that's what she says in the dialogue.  We both love that song. Our favourite song. It had to be Abhinaj. That became the thematic kind of connection of Rocky and Rani as well. It was just glorious to see them. And to see Dharamji. And you know, at one point I said, let's go man mohan desai on this. He stands up and he sings. And he walks, he's on a wheelchair. But you forget and you don't question it. Oh my God, you're right. Yes, I'm just saying. I never thought of that. And to give a little tiny bit of shock, I have a lot of people looking at him walking like this. But you'll never go there. I won't go there. He's done it. He's looked at him. What happened? How he walked up? He walked up, he only walks up for shabanaji twice. When he sings, aaj mohsam. And when he sang, abhinaj aaj holke. The rest is on a wheelchair. So I'm like, my logic was love makes him walk. You know, love can move mountains. Why can't it make a man walk?  What's happening at this moment? In the middle of a drawing room of a palatial over-the-top dhandhava paradise, this man is singing abhinaj aaj holke to a past love in front of his whole family. And she is singing along, not caring that the wife is also there. So I'm like, there is no logic to the situation. Go with the beauty and romance of it. And maybe we'll get away, you know? And that's how it was. Yeah, yeah. And the lines, Karan. You talked about Ishita being a great writer. But for me, the best line is the Kajini or such. Kajini. Okay, we have fallen off our chairs laughing. But you are inherently very witty.  How much of you is in these characters? A lot of them. The characterizations are coming in. Like, I've met Rani's of my life. I've seen a lot of Rockies, you know. In the world. A lot of them are somewhere, the other born within me or an observation of mine. You know? A lot of those lines also were like in that part of the writing process. And they came easily because that was the world of the film. But I give full credit to the writers because I was very careful that we needed, while we needed a commercial lens, we also needed a progressive and a woke lens. So it was a great combination of Shashank, who brought in so much of the commerciality into the film. Sumit and Ishita brought so much of the sensibility and the correctness, the political correctness. Ishita was very, very cognizant of the fact that, you know, we can't land up, you know. We are anyway in stereotypical territory. Let's not go wrong in any other way. So it was a great energy of writers that came together. Like I would work with them all together in a heartbeat because they brought so much to the film. But it was worrisome because we were dealing with a lot of characters, you know. So there's even Golu as in Gayathri's character. I've been fat, I've seen that. You've been fat, showing him, you know what that feels like. You know, people just say the most, like I feel when you're very fat or very thin, it's both you get shamed either way. Like I remember my friend Niranjan Aayangar who was very thin telling me.  There's also thin shaming, you know. Because people keep saying you're so thin, you're so thin, it's not a compliment after a point, you know. It's like you're just both shaming and shaming. So I felt like all these characters somewhere came from a part of me or a part of my observation pool. You know, kind of a lot of commentators, a lot of critics have said that this, the film is like that line that Rani thinks for the Lakshmi Ki. So it's Nehi Swad Vahi. Correct. But I would argue that your source has always been Nehi, right? For 25 years, and it's an interesting sort of dissonance in your art that your influences are sort of the kind of Maharatis of commercial mainstream, right? It's Raj Kapoor. It's Yash Chopra. It's Suraj Bajat. I debuted just a few years before you did. But right from the beginning, you've peppered it with, you know, a little sort of hype, right? You've pushed the envelope. Your women have agency. You introduced Queer Love, even if it was just as comedy. You talked about a woman's pleasure in your short. Is this something that you struggle to balance like you're talking about like, you have to have it commercial, but you also have to be politically correct? Because I believe that if you are messaging, if you don't do it in the packaging of a mainstream entertainer, then how are you going to reach so many millions of people?  Compared to those, how many people will see that compared to a big mainstream, you know, film? So I think you have to walk that tightrope.  So I'm like, it's essential that you keep walking on that tightrope and make sure that you don't. So there will be things that you will do that perhaps, like you look back and say, you know, it's all coming with conviction, like at that point of time, when Shruti Jo turns around and completes, Aaj Tha Jeena Ki Tamanna Hai, it's complete. It's a complete, like, what do you say, suspension of belief in that moment, in the drawing room, you see us all. You can laugh at it or you can clap at it. One of the two I know can happen. That's the chance you take. But it's coming from my space of Subhash Kai Conviction, you know, where it's like a rebellion in love and we're singing Ji Ha Ji Baubat Ki, Ki Zamanese Balavat Ki. And, you know, Meenakshi and Jackie sing that in hero.  I agree. I'm clapping in my head and heart on those sequences. So I'm like, even the song Dindora is actually a leaf of that page. Yes, yes. It had to be just updated. So I was like, I had to do it. I had to just walk that tightrope, but also make sure that if I am messaging, I don't do it in something that may not be viewed in large numbers. But Karan, do you struggle with it as a storyteller when you sit down to create? Do you think about, I can say this, but I can't say that? Good question. Not in this film. I didn't struggle at all. I kind of enjoyed the characters. I enjoyed all of them. I enjoyed their backstories. I enjoyed the people they were. I loved, you know, it was the struggle was where Alia and I had to sit down and say, how do we make this character likable and lovable? Because she can come across over-opinionated. And it's again to Alia's genius that she actually made her character strong, but also vulnerable in love. And she's such a good actor. She's fabulous. She just brought that one. So we struggled internally with projections of performances. But there was never a point where I said, okay, I can't do this, but I can do that. I did everything I know. What did I not do? I went to the mountains for a love song. I did a Bansali old. I did a lip-sync song with all the girls in the industry. I did everything I could have ever asked for. I put up big sets and I could have dancers in abundance. What did I not do? I did everything I love about mainstream Indian cinema. I never pulled any stops at all. Like I went for the jugular. But within that, I felt like there was a story to tell that would be deeply impressionable and hopefully resonant with a large section of society. You know, the other, of course, great sort of propelling force in your cinema is love. You know, like Rocky says, love is love. Right? And all the men and women in your films are yearning for love, getting over love, falling in love. I remember last year when we talked after your birthday, you had said to me that the one regret that you have is that you weren't very mindful of your own personal life. That you didn't sort of pay enough attention to it. And of course, this is completely amateur psychoanalysis. There's a connection between that and the love. That sort of flourishing flamboyant love we see in your films. I think you live vicariously. Cinema filmmakers have that luxury of living vicariously through their, I think, incomplete dreams.  The problem is that I'm only living vicariously. It is like, I'm not being able to translate that into finding my own. You can find love, Kiran. A big love story. And as they say, like you say, age has nothing to do with love. So you never know. At age 51, it might happen. But I'm glad to hear him say that. I don't think you could fall in love in your fifties. Rick, thoughts? Massive platform to express everything that lies within. You know, that, you know, I think cinema really offers that to you, rising, creating content, creating characters, creating those magical looks between two characters. It satiates that void within me, which lies empty right now, you know? And I feel like the love that I express on celluloid is my love story. My love story with cinema is perhaps the biggest love story I'll have.  But I'm like- Prince said that about his music. You know- He said his songs were his children. Yeah, it was in the beginning. Did he have children? Well, he did. That died very shortly after birth. He moved me. Yeah, very, very tragic. When Rocky is telling Ryan's family that, you know, I am who I am because I don't know better. And you can't cancel everybody out. But there has to be some compassion, you know? We have to allow each other and not judge. Those are not easy thoughts to make accessible, right? These are not conversations we see every day in Hindi cinema. What was the challenge of writing that scene and Ranveer was so good at it? Oh, he was fantastic.  The thing was, I tried to, in my own way, as a filmmaker and the writers, full credit to them, that scene is full credit to all the writers, to kind of flip the cliched scene into, on its head in some way. So the first thought was, like, of course, he's gonna come and say sorry, but I'm like, collectively, everyone thought, but why should he, not just while saying sorry, even talk about what his pains are like. It's okay that they are offended. But what about the times they offended him? Right, yeah. You know, and why should he not address that? So I'm like, everyone expected, a typical when Total gives his bit, which is warm and beautiful length, when he holds his mother's hand and he says, if there's no gender, then you feel like Rocky will go down and bended knees apologize, end of scene. That's not who Rocky is, though. That's not who I ever saw Rocky as. I saw Rocky saying that I screwed up, I messed up. But what about you guys? Like, I don't know better. Like, I'm old, old, I can't say black, I can't say black, he says, you know? I'm scared to open my mouth, which is actually in that house, that is what it is. And this is truly identifiable to a gazillion people. Absolutely. I have to keep lecturing my mother about these things, because all wrong words come out, you know? I do it with my husband. Yeah, so I'm like, yeah, well, your husband a lot more than I think my mother would. He used to be schooled. But you know, I just feel like at the end of the day, terminology is something that we have trained, not because we created that terminology, that's the surrounding that we grew up in. Now, if someone was fat, people call it me fat. Nobody, now today, in an interview, we'll say plus size. We'll say vertically challenged. Correct. But we never said any of this. We'll say visually challenged.  You just keep saying different terms because you're not, you're so scared to offend. So that scene, I think, resonated with people.  He's like, yeah, how do I order? He's from Marshall's neighbouring country.   Correct. You know, sir, eventually, anyway, I don't speak English either, right? English language, and you laugh. That's also shaming, right? You also be, also language shaming me, so. And then of course, he apologises, of course. But I said, it has to start in a way that you should laugh. That was my dream. I said, the first thing you should do is that you're singing so sober, calm, but let's bring in laughter before we go into emotion. And that was my endeavour in a lot of the scenes, is to break it. But that scene, for the people who understand it, it's a cancel culture scene. But for the people who may not know about cancel culture, we're still looking at it as, this is the right mode, man. Right. You know, this is right. This happens with us, too. Correct.  Why is fairness cream such a huge deal in this country? Because skin colour is strong. But that's ridiculous. You can be gorgeous in any colour. You know, and the communication is what I also believe in. I come from that sad space in my head. But terminology, even I struggle with it.  And now I am so within the zone of... Political correctness.  Then already I have an army that hate me. I don't want to move further, larger army that will arrive along with the existing army anyway. So I'm like, okay, well, yeah, like, you know, I'll better watch my words. But, Karan, I felt that in the second half, indeed the narrative did wobble under the messaging. Yeah. Did you recognise that? How challenging was it to come to fit in? I think it was challenging. Nitin Beth is a genius editor. Yeah. Genius editor.  It was very difficult, I know. We tried very hard, because there were two men, there were 10 principal characters, and each needed closure, each... I like that she said the narrative wobbled under the messaging. And it was very tough to package the elements of humour and say what you need to. I did realise that we were struggling to get the edit to be what it was.  Yeah. I'll remove this here, I'll take this out. But then will you feel the impact of that? Everything had a payoff. Right. It was very difficult for me to take anything out beyond what it would be. The film was three hours and ten minutes long. Really? And we've got 22 minutes of the film. And I was completely useless, as was Nitin. And I said, Nitin, tell me if I'm keeping something I should. And in fact, he made me add things back. I was actually cutting even more. Why did you truncate the songs? Did you sing to... I did, they're shocking. I know, but why? Did you think people wouldn't... No, because I know that you get on with it. Like, there's so many songs, watch it on YouTube. I mean, it's there for you. And now I'm showing in our Amazon version, we'll have the songs. Right. I had to... The most beautiful song is Kudmahi, which is the last end credit song. It's in a Dabba. I mean, I feel so bad. But that's because I'm like, I don't care, I want the length belong to 50. It has to be to 48. It has to be to 48. So we had to... The end credits are put together, but we had to put the song... Clearly not from the school of Martin Scorsese. And then end credits, I would have been at 250. So I'm like, I was really combating, you know, those optics. Just the length. See, that's the time the producer and the director fight, right? And I'm the producer and director. I was fighting with myself, right?  I'm not that person. I'm like, no, I care. I care. You know, I care about how the film performs in the box office, which is why we run a studio. As you should, you are the producer. Right. Commercial length as well. Never at the cost of possibly communicating what you have to. But some decisions like this were taken to kind of tighten the song. The songs are all beautiful and long, and I hope you get to see them on YouTube. They're all there. But when the music first dropped, it was not appreciated. Right? Yeah, I remember that. And truthfully, I think, Eid al-Ahmushkil was such an iconic album that anything will pale in comparison. And, you know, so people were very critical. Ah, but this is like this. This is like that. What was, what have you taken away from that? So the thing is that you can't compare the music of Eid al-Ahmushkil to the music of Rocky Rani, only because Eid al-Ahmushkil has heart-breaking, heart-wrenching songs because that's that film. This is a celebration film. And let me tell you, this music will all start picking up now because you'll have context. And the melodies are beautiful. I still believe Pritam is a genius. Amitabh Bhattacharya is a genius. Whether the songs are- That's what that guy looks like. Pritam is the first time I've ever seen his face. Yeah. The song Sonu Nasaam, the critical part happens in the film. Looks nothing like Big Big. Suddenly when the album is dropped and you hear it, you start liking those movies, the songs now. Initially there's too much pressure. You're waiting to feel that your first song is going to, you know, top the charts and you know, not every song can these days. It's tough. It's a really tough, crowded market of non-film and film and one song breaks to suddenly you don't know why you think so. I feel all the music, I'm very proud of the music of the film. And I believe that I never bought into the criticism because I probably believe the music is strong. You just needed the film to kind of, you know, take it further. You'll find yourself humming those songs now. Yeah. And you will, and those songs will have a life of their own and they will have a long shelf life. They just needed the film. Like that's why I'm feeling like none of our communication before this actually landed. It didn't. I was going to ask you. But it didn't. And there was all that criticism of the chemistry. He chemistry in again. It was good in the song too. There was sort of this backflip of his hair flip. I mean, I didn't even notice and I was like, did he really need to say, okay, maybe I saw it later. And there was a direct comparison with obviously Shah Rukh. See, now, how can you live up to that, right?  I'm like, now he will do a comparison. Of course he will. I'm going to do it again. With Shah Rukh and Gajal now, with these actors and you can't, Shah Rukh is a legend. He created love in cinema. He created. And he had an iconic love pair. How can you even compare? You can't compare. But should I take away the fact that I don't know? I don't want to not do the song. I want to do it. I'll try my best. You'll buy and do it eventually is my hope. So chemistry was, I was like, there's a problem on chemistry, there's an issue on music.  Then I just felt that I'm not being able to communicate. I had many concerned people messaging me and saying, why this is not working, that is not working. I'm like. Also, it's a dream sequence at that point. Yeah, I never understood those criticisms of that song, man. Which you don't know till you see the film contextually, which we always say that when we act it was on. Maybe I've said that many times, maybe I'll like it more when I see the film. An onslaught of being hated. It gives you a very strong resilience. Yeah. I feel like. Especially all three of you in this movie. I get to come for all of those weeks. It's the week before. That had nothing to do with actually all the criticism to the chatter. That was not what was getting to me. What got to me was the fact that, oh my God, the film is going to be out. And some way I know, I have to say that I needed the validation. I was feeling very vulnerable as an artist, as a human being, and as a person who's been in the industry long enough. I somehow felt like I needed this validation. I felt like I was. You are an artist though. I needed it. Like, you know, it's like your body needs sugar.  I felt like that validation was my sugar. It needed to kind of pump up because I've been, it's just been a weird couple of years. And while we all put up a great show, you know, when we walk out into the world, there are, there is so much going on within, you know, me and my heart and my head that needed some sense of validation. And feeling will I get it or not is what gave me the anxiety for the release. I was in, as I was, the head of this interview, I said, I'm struggling, I literally was. I was shaking. I wasn't sleeping. I was like up at night, staring at my ceiling or what, trying to watch something that was just 20 years. But I was just up and my closest friend. Makes sense. And I literally, for the first time, reached out to people and said, can you just be with me for these four, five years? That's great. Glad you reached out. I had like three or four like strong army members. Should always reach out. I just love his, he's always so transparent and honest. Yeah. Because I was like a baby. Because I was, I told it, I found myself just weeping. Like at every given point of time, I was crying. Like, and I was like tears were rolling down and they didn't even know what to do with me.  Like, you know, I was like shivering. Like at the cast and crew trial, there was so many people at PBR and I went up to the room and I just sat and wept. I don't know why I just wept. And then I'm with my friend up to Arthi Shetty, Pooja. They all just came into, we had one group hug and they said, why are you feeling you've made such a good film? They kept saying, I said, no, I don't know. I can't express it. I can't show this side to my mom either.  My mother feeds off my mood. Like, I'm happy she's happy. Like that's the way it is. And I'm like, I can't show this vulnerable side to my children. They're too young to my mom, what am I gonna do? And I'm like, and Apura was so strong. He was like a pillar. He would just keep coming to me and saying like, you know, don't worry. Why are you worried? Why are you getting so hype? I was like, so I only had love. You know, I had so much love. When did you breathe? This morning. This morning. This morning. This morning when I was sitting and getting ready to come to you and Eka Rocky, Eka La Ghani walked in and she said, the thing that she walked in with her. So much love and I know the love was pouring in and all that. I was like, I said, yeah, I said, yeah, how do you feel? I said, I said, I feel happy today. I feel happy today. I was like, I said, I'll breathe today. I literally Monday, whatever the date is today, I don't even know, I'm so lost. 31st is the day I took a deep breath and I said, I think it's going to be okay. It is. You've done more than okay. No, but I'm like, I see, I don't go by statistics or it's my own feeling. I feel so happy. I feel so happy with all the Pyaar. Like, you know, I feel like, what do I say? Can I just hold your hands? That's so lovely. Yeah, I just, I don't know how to react to this love. Like, I'm just so like, wow, that's how it is. You know, I was like, there's no better way of saying it. God, I'm getting emotional, but I'm really saying it. It's like, it just felt like. It's so nice. It's so nice. And it is so lovely. It really is. I have one more question. Where do they live after marriage? Pratyush, Pratyush, my colleague needs to know this. Sure. Very, very absolutely valid question to ask. I definitely think that Rani would not move into Ramakant. And I definitely think that the strategies would be okay with the fact that they would move. I think that the setup that they would move into a separate home, because now they get along with each other's families well enough for them to create a world of their own. So in my head, neither does Rocky move to Rani's, neither does Rani move to Rocky's. They have a place of their own. But in my head, I think Rani would do that place up. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not so sure she would depend on Rocky's strategies. Probably not. My, also my, well, you see that Rocky would not stop being Rocky. You know, we discussed like a part two. Really? We used to chat about it. Rani, Alia, Rani, Alia, Rani and me. And they were like, what's got to be a story? Because these two deserve a spin-off. You know? And I'm like, okay, who knows? You know, we imagined a story. We actually have a kind of a story, but we don't know. I mean, this was too nascent of thought. But definitely I see Rocky and Rani living somewhere in Delhi, but away from their parents. Because now they're going to get a vaccine, driving is being done by the family. They're okay. Because they're at least in control of the front seat. Yeah, yeah. And what are you doing next? Holiday? I am going to sleep for many days. I mean, I will come. There's no sleep, Anu. I have films releasing. I have shows that are on there. I have to do coffee with Karan. I have to do lots of things. Are we getting another season? Yeah. Now you're done with one note of yours. I don't know if anyone noticed. Nobody noticed that I was absent for four months. Like I took a sabbatical, like perform once. And then I just think that people don't realize because I'm always everywhere. You're always there for you. But I was not there anyway. I was trying and I was wearing black and all full. Like you were not seeing. This was your low time. Yes. I was keeping it low. My orange juice just came out today. Like I'm like, I was keeping it low. Why was this? You see nobody notices. Did you miss that my low key and like my complete low key, like staying away, not doing media, you know, not going with Doki and Rani to any city visits. No one noticed my absence. I'm very upset. You know what I'm saying? I know he, he took marketing life and just went down the drain just now. Because I was like somebody must have noticed what we noticed it. You know, I was like... Only present Karan. Yeah, but I wasn't anywhere. Like I didn't go anywhere. Now that I'm seeing it, of course, now you're on. Now the penny's dropping. I didn't go anywhere. And they were like, I said, no, no. I said, we will come out if the film gets lost. And they're really going to be coming out now. And please do consider my idea of the fashion line of Rocky and Rani. Rocky and Rani need a fashion line. They, they have...  I want anything. And I don't even know how to wear a saree. No, but like he's like, Karan, what is going on? Yeah. Like people are talking about the sarees in serious reviews. Like in serious reviews, the sarees are being mentioned. Rocky's wardrobe is of course being talked about for various reasons. Yes. Like, his designer wear somehow has equaled additional humour in the film. Absolutely. Like, who else would match? The car and the goat. The car and the goat. It was a car. And I have to tell you, that was a happy accident but we're taking credit for it. Fuck. Because I was only on set. And we're like, oh. It was a... So we'll be doing a Rocky and Rani line. It's a good idea. And in terms of films, Karan, are you thinking of anything else? I'm writing. Writing with a couple of writers. Ideating between two strings. I don't want to take a long gap again. Yeah, don't worry. What is this, seven years and all? See, two and a half years to manage the ducts. Yeah. And then two years to the pandemic. Which will get made. Yes. Of course. It's a passion project. But I'm writing and developing. I'm thinking. I'm absorbing. I'm ideating. All of that. But I will take a long gap. This time I need to be back on set because that's where I feel I really belong. Yeah. Good. Thank you. And congratulations again. Thank you. Thank you. This is so lovely. Great interview as always. She does a good job. Yeah. We've said it before. And I'm sure we'll say it over and over again. He's such a sweet man. He is. And I feel like the man you see in these interviews is the man you'd see if you were sitting down and having breakfast with him or, you know, you'd taken a walk in the park. I feel like there's no pretension. What you see is what you get. Yeah. And such a sweet, sweet man. I love the parts we got really personal about. Yeah. It's my favorite part. About his anxiety. Yeah. And needing to reach out to people. Always reach out. And admitting that for him the film he needed the validation. Even though they won't admit it, that's most artists. That's why a lot of theater actors love theater so much. It's instant gratification, hopefully. If it's good or it's also instant regret as well. No, you do. If it's not good. You do. I mean, that is the barometer by which you're measuring whether or not what you're doing is having an impact, is how well it's received or not. I still love doing what you do. Of course. But it's always better when you get the validation. 100% better. And you're always nervous. Everybody's human. Yeah. You're always nervous as to whether you're auditioning or whether the project's done. You're always very nervous because you want it to be good and you want others to think it's good. You don't want it to be bad. And when you're helming something like this, I'm sure the pressure on him was huge when you add what a monumentally huge empath he is with his heart on his sleeve. I'm not surprised that he was just crying nonstop and could hardly go to premieres. Yeah. I'm happy for him. I love the story about him dancing to these songs when he was a kid and his father being accepting of that. That's one as the father should do. It's sad that it's not a lot of people's story. It really is. That they want to be themselves and then they get pressured by the parents or family members or friends when they're younger and to being ashamed of trying to be who they are. He brought that into the story as well. It was really, really lovely. I was sad that we didn't have subs for there. I know. There was so much, I feel like a lot of English going on back and forth and then out of Hindi. It was mostly when they were talking about dialogue from the movie that they said in the dialogue. Right, right, right. The movie, obviously. So it makes sense. I just wish I got some references of what they were talking about. It was a lovely interview. I really appreciated the film, obviously, for many different reasons. If you haven't seen our review, obviously watch that to see what Rick said about the stuff he didn't like as much as I did. Lexi watched it with us too and she gives her opinion as well. She said she was a little in the middle of both of us. But it was also really strange and something that you just don't think about because as an audience, you don't have to is the fact that he has to... The film was 310 and it ended up being 250. So he cut 20 minutes of this film. Yeah. And also some parts of the songs. Because as an audience, you don't have to think about that because you're not the editor, you're not the director. But they definitely have to think about it because they have to know if a film is lacking or not.  And so they had to... He thought he had to cut a lot of it. And as they... I guess in PS2 or PS1, I felt like he had to cut the songs as well. Which is weird. Don't do that, Manny. Because those songs were absolutely brilliant. But also it was really interesting what he said about Ranveer in this. One, I'd love to know the backstory of how that happened. It's obviously different because when you're the lead in a film, it actually does happen a lot where you're learning the lines basically before because you have so many and they don't film in sequence. And so that actually happens a lot on set. They don't learn the lines verbatim for this three-hour film front to back. They get the shooting schedule. No, and sometimes that can happen. It can happen. It shouldn't happen. You're going to get a call sheet, I presume. I don't know how the Indian film industry works. I assume it's pretty comparable. But you're going to get a breakdown of what the shooting schedule is going to look like beforehand but the definitive of what you're going to do because it'll change based on what you get accomplished each day.  They'll probably email you the call sheet and it'll show you what's happening. But even when you get the call sheet, two things can change. You'll show up to set and be given some different colored pages that are replaced pages in the shot that day because the writers made some changes and you're sitting in the makeup chair and they go, here are the news lines for today's scene. The other thing that's going to happen that apparently did is you get a call sheet for what we're filming and then you show up and it's not the day you thought it was going to be. They made a change. What's interesting about it is that it wasn't that he didn't know his lines. He knew his lines is that he wasn't mentally prepared mentally prepared and thankfully for the scene that we're doing which makes sense and also love that for Ranveer as an actor, the fact that he's like, I need this prep space. I'm always reminded of Tick Tick Boom and Andrew Garfield getting the call sheet for the first day and it's the climactic moment for him not giving anything away. And when he's talking to Lynn, Lynn is giving him all of these deep reasons as to why they're filming it. And Andrew looks at him and says, we're filming this because this is the day you got the permit for Central Park. He said, yeah, that's exactly why we're filming today. But the fact that Ranveer needed that prep time to get his head space correct. And obviously Karen being the director and producer is still allowed to do whatever he wants. He's the one funding this. And the unsurprising seriousness for everybody who gets upset with us about our love for Ranveer as a thespian, did you hear all of the comments about how seriously Ranveer took this role? This could easily have been something where he just did look at the character and go, oh, it's me. I'm going to phone this in and take a nice payday. And he doesn't do that. He takes all of his roles, I think, as seriously as any actor possibly can. I think he took this no less seriously than he did his role in Padmavad. Oh, yeah. No less seriously. Also, it was probably a more difficult role. In many respects. In comedy. Yes, in many respects. Because this can, that, like we've said many times, comedy is way harder than drama. Especially when you are a big, bombastic Karen. Exactly. Which you'll see, if you haven't seen the review, that's the primary thing for me was I had no problems at all with Ranveer and Ali. In fact, I liked Ranveer and Ali. For me, it was what she had mentioned about, in particularly the second half of the narrative that she said wobbled by reason of some other choices that were made. And that's just mine and a very small handful of people because I've read a couple of reviews. The majority of people love this film. I'm one of them.  And that made me very happy and neither one of us were mad and pointing out to the other person why you were wrong. It's just, that was what you like and this is what I like. I just thought it in my head. Yeah, exactly. Which is what you're supposed to do. Yeah. Inner monologue.  Outer monologue. You're allowed to have your opinion. Of course, see how that works. Anyways, sorry about that. The battery died. Okay. Said it was exhausted. Yeah. We're basically done with what we're talking about. I just wanted to come back and say goodbye. Hold on. The microphone stopped too. Good Lord. Whatever. I think all the equipment is exhausted. I'll just end it.