Okay, so I don't want to talk to the mic because I want this to be a discussion So we prepared some content for you and some topics to discuss And in the end I would love to if this was discussion, so I'm not sure how useful this will be for the recording Okay, so why we are here? so we have like containers for some time and They have they've been integrated into Fender infrastructure, so we have built system We have registry we have package review process or like container review process and they are all there and like the reason for this fork shop is How to improve it? What can we do better? Which parts of the infrastructure we can improve or change or swap or whatever? That's one thing But for that we need one person and that is Clement Verna But he's not here right now because they are having Infrastructure planning meeting or something like that, but he will join later so Clement is actually the person who is maintaining the Fedora build system for container midges and He's been working for on it for past six months and He put plenty of ideas into the etherpad like what can we discuss today or like what can we plan for and One of the most important things of those is the creation of the new container Sieg within Fedora So the way this worked in Fedora is that there was atomic working group and Atomic working group for discovering Fedora atomic host and also container build system and containers themselves But it was working like best efforts. So so some issues were left open for Long time some sorry not But recently So you heard there is this new thing Fedora coroS so so the current state is that we'll have new Sieg just for containers and we'll talk about Fedora build system and Like how to make it better and then there will be other Sieg for Fedora coroS So, yeah, we could definitely talk about or we will talk about it as Clements get here about the Sieg itself like who wants to be in it What we'll be working on which issues from the atomic working room will move to the container Sieg Okay, so that's one thing to discuss the other thing is that Probably one of the reasons I started this workshop was that our team was working on Automation of the container delivery process internally. So the thing is that internally we are using a lot of different tools to build and release container images than there in Fedora mainly the last part and Our team was working on like automating it as much as possible It's still not done But we already have some results and some tools and we would love to also use these tools within Fedora So we definitely want to discuss that The main issue is that not all of them are open source Because they are really closely tied to the internal infrastructure But it shouldn't be such a problem to add support for Fedora like Fed message or Bodhi and others But the core parts are open source. So we can definitely show those and talk about those This other part to discuss and obviously since we have much more people right now here We can also discuss things you are interested in. So this was just like this Interpet is this was just our ideas what we can talk about that what I'm assuming that you guys have much more So we can totally discuss those So I already do did in introduction. I'm not sure if we want to like introduce everyone If everyone want to introduce themselves since we already have quite a few people Okay So if you want to look at the text, maybe sit closer Okay, so it's control plus, right? Okay. Yeah, so so the URL is Okay, I'll copy it if you want to open it yourself This is the URL of the Interpet. Feel free to put anything inside. Please just don't erase it all That's the only source of the information in here. Okay, oh Come on. I have Mike in my hand Okay, so I already introduced the session our team. I'm not sure if we want to introduce each hour each Of us probably not really or if anyone wants to introduce themselves and have any idea what we can do here right now Now's the time Okay Pardon Yeah, he will come so they have the infrastructure planning and he said that he'll be late, but he'll definitely come Okay, so We covered that okay, so as soon as comment come we'll talk about the container sig So I guess that we can start talking about the automation. We've been working on So so we are actually working for Steph Walter and I'm assuming that you already seen Steph and I did some of his talks about automation and bots and other things so Since we are working on him We are trying to follow his philosophy and the way we approach the automation Newtonally is that we created bots and like Real bots so they have even names they have personalities and they have usually like one task to do and they try to do it well and Yes, I said right now they are mostly tied to the Internet infrastructure But we can definitely make it work with in Fedora So our team, which is actually in the first row. That's Dominica and Irka. So they already tried to do it But I guess that we can introduce the bots themselves Okay, so we already assigned tasks like who will be doing what So I can start like mine is first then Dominica Irka and Yeah, and mine is lost as well Okay, so internally What we decided like the thing is with the automation is that you can automate things But you still need humans to help you with the automation like Computers can't do anything. They are still they're still need for humans. So that's good for us And the thing is like how we'll both interact with humans. So usually that's email, right? But that's not interactive like usually you need to put some input So luckily Dominics team, which is OSCI they've been working on deploying pegger on top of this git internally as well So it works pretty much the same way as in Fedora And we decided that pull requests would be the centerpiece of the interaction between bots and humans So So our bots actually interact with pull requests. So for example, whenever Yeah, so whenever there is a new commit Like one bot can easily Initiate a scratch build of the container image and see like if the commit is sane And if it not it would report back to the pull request that hey Scratch build doesn't succeed or for example, the docker file has issues or whatever else So just to give you an example I created a pull request for one of my containers in Fedora and this is how it looks so So, yeah, the idea is that this this could be the centerpiece of Like of the collaboration between the automation system and and humans Yeah, so it's very simple. I just added one more package into the tools container image So any ideas here like is this good idea is this bad? Pardon, I don't fall Okay. Yeah, so Okay, so dusty agrees we are good Yeah, so this is the premise pretty much that We have modern workflow for development of software. So we have git we can take advantage of the multiple remotes We can do forks and we can do pull requests and this is how we can collaborate So this is what we actually start building from and Then we have next bot. His name is Dravo meal So for those of you who are who have Slavic ancestors, you probably know what the name means and for the others Sexually draw meal could be translated is like person who loves health in us and Draw meal is a bot which lins docker files and Dominica. Do you want to talk some more about it? Let me see Okay, so I'm ill as Stoner said is someone who likes health and he looks at all changes in In this kid. So when talking about Fedora, it's not implemented yet in Fedora as Thomas said but in the future It may be matter of weeks I think that we would be able to do it now So it could work in Fedora only thing we we have to do is link it to Fed message and listen for new I think New pull requests impact pressure on a new commits commits on Peugeot, so that can be trigger for drive a meal. It should be really easy to configure Then a driver mill runs linters using Colin Yes Okay, just look at it and don't listen to me that it's okay I'm glad. No. No, this is So we've we've created this rule sets or that it is sets of rule that are important for images including best practices and and also required labels and and stuff from OSBS and Colin that's actually hard of the rubber mill that's the rubber mill is just a just a wrapper above Colin Colin looks at the docker file and sees what is wrong and when he sees something wrong He actually sends email to a maintainer or or DD creator of the of the pull request so or now it is the Comet creator, but yes, well indeed in the future. It will be also possible to configure it so you can At any other persons on emails or RC channels where is that we all can send notifications about the results? And we were actually really successful with With the runs we had some thousands of run in a month. So I think that's quite great Okay, do you have it? Can I finish I have it in my in my notebook, but Okay My environment is broken. Sorry. I have here a docker file Or do I just just an empty file so we can see all the checks and for the for Fedora, I run Colin You can see that all failed because we have an empty file. So these are all the checks Show you for Fedora Just a quick demo, so that's it for me Okay, so any questions here, so I couldn't hear the question actually For historical reasons when we were first we started working on it internally We didn't have petr and we there were no pull requests. So we started to react to commits and actually In the next week, it will be react the erecting to new pull requests. Okay, so for The question was about rules like where they live and if you can add your own that's a really good question and So the answer like answer can be really long. So I'll try to Make each other. So what Colin is actually the project itself It's like the CLI tool plus API and then a bunch of checks Like for example checks for presence of labels presence of files presence of whatever else and you can easily add your own checks And then whenever you run Colin as Dominica showcased she she typed Colin and then used rule set Fedora and this is how we decided to like Make the connection between checks and like what you want to run So we call these things rule sets and rule sets contain list of rules And you can easily add your own rules. So for example, you can use existing code for checks and just like put different parameters to Check for presence of different files or labels Yeah, so this one thing and the other thing is you asked about like how can you add your own? So you can easily open a pull request against calling project and add your own checks but The thing is that internally, this is not good enough right now because we definitely want to have as much open source checks as possible But at the same time We have internal infrastructure and we also try to check for internal things which are like they don't have any value in In the open source project. So we want to have also like internal checks So in the end then we need to figure out how to take the open source thing then the internal thing and then glue it all together And this is what we've been working on like very recently And I'm planning to finish it like next week because we really need it actually from someone from your team So they can contribute checks to checks to it Yeah, Dennis Yeah, so do so please So I've been working to adapt the script we have to publish the base image On registry.fp.co and hopefully we will so do The current tool that we use to generate the manifest list doesn't support the authentication method of our registry so we have to Work on that I'll try to work on that next week and I hope by the end of this month we'll have at least the base image for multi-arch on the registry They are already on Docker Hub but it's using That's actually doesn't even depend from Fedora and Fra I think it's an other team that pushed us to to the Docker Hub. We just pinged them and they update them Yeah, but they ask from what I understood they ask someone else to do it I think also Moan did a change and we started to The plan is to start to push the raw ID image every every day the Raw ID base base image on the registry every day. So you'll have a fresh So the OSBS that is currently deployed in production support rebuild when the base image Change is not enabled yet. I can look at this also but Yeah, we have the latest OSBS in Fedora in production now, so we Atomic reactor is 311 I think now so I Think some of the nice thing I don't know if you if you went through the new features now quit The nice thing where I think we can use is the automatic release bump So we don't have to manage the release label in the Docker files When you trigger a build OSBS just take care of it. So that's quite nice And then automatically build when the base image is updated. I think that's Like the two main features that we we can we can try to enable Soon Yeah, I guess this I guess the second one really we will be really handy when rebuilding images You just push the new base image and all of the images will be revealed Yeah, then we can look at automating So we supposed to release new base image and Layered image every two weeks, but we haven't been really good at that Mostly because part of the time OSBS was broken and or we were busy with other things so the idea is to try to automate that as much as possible and use Fed message to trigger the rebuild the release We are we shouldn't be too far from having Container updates in body also so that will help making the release more More friendly So I would like to I know that Yakuza has been doing some work on poor PC 64 Ali But we'll be charting in boxes in the infra I Think the plan was to reuse some of the builder of poor PC 64 because they would be discount Yeah, they're going away in f29 But I would like also to have a h64 for IoT. I think it's the main is the main target so That will come last I guess I Think they well, I'm not supposed to have anything is just a matter of priority And I don't think we will be able to deploy them all together and and resources here. So Yeah Okay, so yeah, we might not have a lot of resources for S390 X Yeah, I think yeah Well in my head at least and if people have over over requests and things so another arch is more important Yeah, just please tell me and I'm happy to accommodate Another few things if we want to talk about do you do you have over? Over project to show Not also, I guess we can finish. Yeah, I think about automation and then we can talk about the container thing Okay, so So, yeah, that was the first boat for like checking healthiness of docker files or actually content images Then we have another boat which actually took a lot of time to do because it was not so trivial as we thought originally is that usually people have their like content image sources in the upstream and Then they just pull it to downstream to Fedora, for example, or internally to Red Hat And then try to build their content images from it But still they do all the hard work in the upstream in open source So for that we have both name betka and betka actually Sings the files from upstream to downstream. So you could we want to talk about it a little bit more I Said I don't have any demo I could just maybe show you read me from the private repository since you can't access it yourself Who wants to see the read me nobody? Okay, so Software collections SCL org has their repositories on github I think and Yeah, we use betka for that And so it checks the Betka configuration says what Like downstream repositories Wants to check or wants to be synced with upstream and so it periodically checks the upstream repositories and Once it found some new commits it makes poor request in Beggar and I think it also sends some notification email that there is this poor request opened And I think we are planning to change it to like using github to Fed message So it uses notifications and not checking periodically the upstreams and I think that's that's all Yes, so probably the more like the most tricky Tricky thing is to Is to actually like how do you configure this thing because Okay, so you have some boat running inside the infrastructure and then you want people to be easily able to Tell the boat that okay. This is my upstream repo. This is my downstream repo and for example this some configuration Which files should be copied? But how do you make the boat ever of this configuration without without restarting it or something like that? And I don't think we actually figure it out yet Could the configuration be Yes, yes, it could but still like the boat needs to discover that configuration first So it's like a chicken and neck problem Yeah It this is actually a really good idea. So okay, so there will be a message Like there's a new like new commit and a specific file But we will need to parse like every single message and like filter it somehow or I hear also sense You can configure webbooks. Mm-hmm. So we can just send the message only on commits. Mm-hmm. You can actually Trim down. Mm-hmm. I think that message you can't just like send But with webbooks you can choose But But but we but we need to probably enable it for all the like container Related repositories, but it's already good ideas. You could check with a pingoo if we can have some names-based Webbooks Yeah, sounds really good And if you realize like how powerful powerful this is like you can have your Maintainers work on the upstream repository and whenever they create a pull request upstream They can easily you can just sink it downstream and like try to integrate it into the distribution and see how it goes and Basically report the results back to upstream. So they get feedback right away as they are working on a new feature or something like that so yeah, so This is something very interesting and I'm really wondering if this is like also good for Fedora because for example, it's Talked about software collections. They actually have all of their images on their github repository Github organization and they even most of the repositories have Docker files for Fedora, so Yeah, this could be very interesting Yeah, so does this comment is Whether there is some like tooling or some like that to create Container images out of modules Is that correct? Like each SEL into a module So instead of having like Python like Postgres 9 5 9 6 9 7 Each one would be its own module and then you create containers based on those modules So I'll probably have like two answers for that. So So, yeah No So back in the day our team was actually working for modularity team So like all three of us and this was actually one of the cards We are trying to figure it out How could we automatically generate Docker files or even images from modules? But we are not able to finish it or like complete it because the issue is metadata You need to put all the metadata into module MD and then generate Docker file out of it Which sounds kind of okay, but then you would have specific metadata to the container images Which would not be relevant for other artifacts and we were not able to like Come to a conclusion like how this metadata would be stored inside. So So you already have files inside the module disk it which are related to flat packs. Yes Wow So we could directly We could directly create the containers from the module Yes, exactly Theoretically the people who maintain the RPN might not want to create a container But there's somebody else that wants to create a container out of it. So like a different But anyway We are definitely not like not planning to do this so Like dusty or others if you are interested in doing this You should probably reach out to modularity team and maybe discuss with them because this was already on the plate But we just were not able to execute So maybe this time around when Oven figured out how to do this for flat packs. We could do it similarly for Contain images as well Yeah, absolutely So I actually wrote a blog post about that on Fedora magazine that it's actually really beneficial to use Modules and specific versions inside content images and then we could easily solve the problem that hey We have this container image, but what is the version of my skill inside so we can easily tag it But we probably just need to do the final steps here Or maybe have the content actually the modules themselves version Okay, so what's next? Okay, so I won't spoil anything so we have another boat and I actually spoiled already So if you already have a pull request in pegger, you can easily create a scratch build out of it, right? So don't don't I want to talk about it a bit more Actually, it was kind of inspired by drama also, so yeah now can react on pull requests and changes in pull requests and creates scratch build We had some problem with it, and I think it will be Result soon because I don't know how it works in Fedora, but internally we couldn't Trigger trigger scratch builds on on forks because we don't have we didn't have branch that would be like Usable from from from building tools So so we were actually able to push the change Push people to make the change so we can make built on on on forks, and it will be Updating pull requests with flags that will Tell about the result of the build Since we have something similar for RPMs, there is some service listening and trying to do scratch builds in Koji I'm not sure if we would be able to like unify it to have like single code base to do both I don't know if any one of you know how this works for RPMs Because this is pretty much specific for our PM is using Fed package I Did I the loop have a look because I wanted to do it It wasn't very trivial, but we can we can take another look It's worth it's worth like getting the two code base and trying to The Koji Can't remember it's called it's called G Koji see Yeah, it was called something like that. Koji see eye or whatever. Yeah, it's pretty specific to Appians mm-hmm. Yeah, maybe in the end doesn't make sense to so merge them with just an idea Okay, so all right, okay, so we have Next item which is almost the last one for the automation part and that's Something how our boats are running actually so they are so I don't know Dominic. I will not talk about it or Yurko Okay So we have these boats travel Milbet, Cassolonia and we have also this uh-huh service which rules them all and so They they usually react on some event on some message bus and this who which is check word for Year listens on this message bus and submits a task for these boats and it's that The task it's we use salary for that So the boats listen on some queue and who submits the task since it's into the queue and once the boats gets takes it from the queue and performs it and That's basically it and Home for our boats. I don't know what you meant with that. So as you said they are mostly in our private repositories Okay, okay, so I didn't write it either Metaphorically I see it as as a home like everyone has there Yeah, okay, so that's it and finally we had also like body, but we already spoke about it a little bit I'm not sure if we covered it all. I know that Randy said that he would come but he then said that he needs to go to the infrastructure thing but what I was able to Ask him in the meantime was that like the support is already in both heat to be able to release container images So what we have so the code is in body The body server is configured to be able to push to the registry Moan created release in staging for F28 containers, I think for like so we have all the code g tags In place. We just need to try so I quickly tried last week, but Obviously didn't work first first tried it didn't work. So we need to investigate what's what's blocking there might be simple There's one thing we after it's more like Process, but we might want to Try to think how we use body do we want to use it the same way as rpm so For example Maybe we let we need to have lower requirements on karma or thing like that that might be Because most all our containers are using RPMs so It might make sense to have like a lower bit the gate for So and especially RPS from stable repository, right? Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense And how about the two weeks rebuilt like how would we handle that? so if we have this we've in combination with Automatic rebuild of the layer image. I would see that we would just rebuild the base image. Maybe Like every two weeks or weekly Then OSBS should Rebuild all the layer image and create the the body updates So some tooling would create the updates in both here, right and even attach the builds it would be Yeah, it would be it would be nice to have the 12 that Automated be able to use that message also here. Maybe to to see whenever we got like When we have a new build for a container image from from OSBS We could have like a service that just listen fed message and and create the body update Yeah, okay, so that's probably all for the automation. So if you have any questions can address them and if not We can talk about the sig but automation So currently the So the tools are open source, but the way to run them. Yeah. Yeah Yes Yes, so I think once we have them it's good opportunity to try to see how we can put them in in fedora infra open shift and that might be some good content for the sig and people to get involved to help us to like Deploy that in a infidora infra, I think yeah, that's a really great idea. I have one thing related to automation, I guess I Don't know whether you solve it already because I missed the beginning. So the Registry that is used for building is it's still a stable registry or I Believe that it should be possible to use the Can date register register for that because that would speed up the development a lot even without the outer boats and Stuff and we do it do it like internally. It's it's working We didn't talk about it. Okay, so maybe Open a ticket on the seag Yeah, oh, yeah, it's in atomic seag. Yeah, we can move it to the content. I think I It's just a configuration configuration change in in OSBS to do that. So Yeah, we can agree to To change that so do we talk about the sig like How would it work and It's probably not the good time. There's probably as many people in the room Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's really great idea. That's the So there isn't much Yeah, cool, I just created pretty much the wiki page and I didn't want to put any kind of process or anything I think it's nicer if we decide together what we want to do We have also Category on the new discussion dot Fedora project dot org Well, I tried to put nothing there are like currently to Currently two topics there, but I think it would be nice to use this instead of mailing list Yeah, that's the discourse and you can log with your you can log in with your fast account So you don't need to have an extra account or anything It's just a bit more friendly for people to to use and like not buried as deep as mailing list and so So I started the Fred on ISC meeting I'm not a big fan of having 20,000 meetings per week, so I Wanted to see what people think about having a meeting and What if and if we should have a meeting What would be the The pace of it so monthly every two months or every week I Think we're like few comments about like having it maybe every every two weeks at the beginning so it's not like We just don't meet and say oh I didn't have time to do anything in one week So there's actually some progress to do After organization wise I think I I Created on on pagura group. So which I'm currently the only person in but I See I see this group as being the like or if you're interested to join that the sick just Join the group on Pagura and you have like access on the tickets and everything and that would be the No, we don't Group members is never So if people we can actually do this to now if people are interested to to join the CIG and I Can I can add you to to the group and Yeah, we can I think what the city said it's quite a good idea we can try to To least so I started on on Pagura. I started to put some tickets we can maybe feel more tickets also on on On what people actually want to want to try to do and maybe what they think the com to how they think the container effort in Fedora should should look like and That would be a good start I think No contest see yeah together So I actually have one question for dusty after he finishes writing like What's the future of atomic working group in Fedora? No, I really literally atomic working group like when it's gonna be like shut down and how and Like what's gonna happen? Okay, so it's probably now's the good time to start moving issues from atomic working group to the other working groups I know do we want to do it Okay Yeah, sounds like I mean this was actually my original intention to sit around the round table But there's just so many people that we wouldn't fit one Yeah, like yeah, so The question is about the atomic working group and kind of what's the future there I Think that's the sooner that we basically start the container CIG and obviously that's Kind of what we're here today for the better mainly because We're not having regular meetings for the atomic working group anymore because we've started kind of working on the Fedora Coro West stuff and Clamont showed up to the Fedora Coro West meetings and was like hey Are we interested in discussing containers here like we did in the atomic working group or should do we think it's worth having our own? You know special interest group for containers. I personally think is you know in the best interest of You know the container space being healthy for people to be able to show up to something that is focused Specifically on what they care about somebody might care about containers that Cares nothing about an immutable operating system, right? So that was one thing that we noticed in the atomic working group was people would show up We talk in a meeting for 45 minutes about something they didn't care about or we wouldn't get around to a topic at all That they cared about so you know they might not show up as much So the recommendation was you know, let's see if there's interest for a container CIG and he put out an email and obviously got a lot of Responses back, which I was like, you know super happy about So I you know I think obviously he's already made a repo not the one we're looking at right now But he's already made a repo where we can kind of organize a little bit and kind of choose You know if we want to do a weekly meeting or bi-weekly or something like that And actually have people sign up there and we can organize that way on the container CIG Group repo I Just started a new issue That is like hey, you know if you are interested in Like being a part of this, you know, just add a comment here that way It's really easy because like sometimes people come up to you and you're like, hey, I'd like to be involved in the group But like their name maps nothing to their fast ID or something like that And so if you just comment in here, you know exactly what their fast idea is if you mouse over their name It tells you what their name is or at least what they'd prefer to be called in fedora so if you go to the container CIG Slash container CIG Pagger repo and just add a comment to issue number three You know that lets Clamont know you're interested He knows your fast ID already if you want to add a comment saying why you're interested that might help, too But as far as migrating stuff away from like the atomic working group issue tracker I think he may have already had it up But there's a bunch of issues labeled containers Some of them are related to container run times. A lot of them are related to application containers some of them are related to like Governance like, you know guidelines and stuff like that Probably half of these things could be just not migrated. I I'd probably encourage you to use some judgment I'm not sure we could probably talk to Pingu and see if there's like an easy way to Migrate a bunch of issues over I'm there is okay It's a get repo right. Yeah, I didn't know if there'd be like some automated tooling or anything Yeah One pack of repo to another Look at that. Cool. Yeah, so something like that might be useful if you want to go through Individual tickets at some point We can do that. I mean like we could do that today theoretically I don't know if that's the best use of everybody's time here today or not So definitely open to ideas Right well, yeah Well, it also depends, you know if people are planning to stay here the whole time or go to another session Which I think oh actually Yeah, I've got another session or another thing at 3 30. Definitely. I'm not sure about this current time period But yeah, so Yeah, yeah that works Okay, cool. Is there anybody here today that's interested in the container sig? That you know Yeah, nice. Oh that like you know has a specific thing that they're looking to get out of it, right? He's like, you know, not many people do things in open source without wanting something out of it That's what makes it work. You are by nature selfish. You want to achieve a goal. This is why you were helping, right? You know, like I think everybody's you know doing it out of the goodness of their own heart But that doesn't last over time So like is there anybody here that like has a particular thing or a particular agenda they want to advance? We know Dennis wants multi-arch really hard. So we're happy about that But is there any Multi-arch for you to okay But is there anybody here like, you know from the community Chris? Gotcha So we've got Christian here and he wants to Learn how to Get some applications within fedora that he cares about packaged in containers so that he can use them as containers Which is awesome. That's a great reason This might be a wider community thing, but I Think currently if you want to package a container you have to be a package and oh currently yes Yeah, which is which is I think that was mostly because That was the easiest thing to implement Yeah, right, which is not necessarily good because like somebody might be a great container packager that never did are Yeah, for example, well if I take my case I But you prefer doing Dockerfiles and like that would be much more interesting in packaging containers than the RPMs But it's just like like personal interest. I think it's maybe so I know that now We can push to this gets using Fox and HTTPS so It might be also a good good time to can we actually do that. Yeah, it's been deployed last Week or so like if they do a fork and they make a commit locally and they want to push you can do a pull request now Yeah, you don't have to do it from like another remote pull request You can but it you said over HTTPS So it doesn't work with SSH key you have to like push and then like log in with your FAZ user name a user ID and password I haven't tried either way. That's awesome Because that's you know, we had the we have the pull request model now But if you're not a package or you can actually you can do pull request now. Yeah, so I'm not sure what's the user Experience, but you can you can do pull request as non-packager now. So nice That's maybe one thing we want to do or we want also to consider having Like container maintenance, right? Yeah, so the the take away from that is we may want to We may want to lower the barrier to entry for For people who want to do containers to not have to have them be in the package or group first So we make like a new Container or group. No, that's a bad name, but you know what I'm saying. Yeah Yeah But yeah, so I think that'd be a great You know thing for the working group to pick up and like consider as an agenda. They'd look they'd like to push Because I'm sure that's a barrier to entry for people It's like of course, I'd love to have this because like I already you know, maybe the Maintainer of said package that I want to use in a container You know is a great maintainer for the RPM But has no interest in running it as a container So they're not going to do the work to like, you know create a docker file or whatever else for it But I would love to but I'm not a package right so like that would that would be great I love that I Think this is more It would be good to have like wider like people that are not present there to have their input also so Yeah, that could probably easily be like a topic for for this I would say for a first meeting But that wouldn't make sense necessarily what hey We're gonna meet to talk about when we're gonna meet except when should we meet to do that? Yeah, yeah, we could do do we have a mailing list yet, or is it we just do we're just doing discourse or so we have a mailing list but I Personally don't like to have to look at two different places to get information, right? So I'm not opposed we have the mailing list so we can use it But if it would be nice to have just like at least there's a clear message. We already have like the tickets in Pager So it would be all you have to go and check in Pager you have to do in checking You're right here here would be my suggestion and more or less Create an issue in Pager. We have a sig Pager now and then draw attention to it from other places So like if you have a mailing list Send out a message on the mailing list that says hey, I want to draw your attention to you know Helping us decide our meeting time. Can you comment over in Pager? So I don't have the don't have the conversation on the mailing list. Let's have the conversation over here There's a single place for that And then like maybe even CC the bell list so people who haven't yet signed up for the container sig mailing list Also get that information Except both of those are funnels into the correct place to have the conversation So that would be my suggestion and you'll probably get a pretty good idea of when to have the first meeting And then people can show up at the first meeting and say this meeting time sucks. Let's change it So I think that should work pretty well Yeah, when is good. Yeah, that's true Yeah, yeah, that's something we're trying to work through in the Fedora core as working group Because like we have mailing lists. We have discourse We have Pager you know the kind of the guidelines that we are Floating towards over there is Discourse is kind of like a forum so like to me that you know a user says hey, I'm trying to do XYZ and I'm hitting a problem So like more user-facing stuff and the Pager Tracker is more like hey You know should we change the root file system to XYZ, right? So like more design type stuff or like governance type stuff and then the mailing list is like Announcements or drawing your attention to something else where we can't have discussions there, but you know obviously people aren't as Interested in following mailing lists as much as they used to be so like we're trying to explore different avenues for for different things I'm gonna stop talking now Bad I Have We want to discuss like the focus of the working group in detail So one thing actually I wanted to discuss is that we are probably the mayor of the repository which is Project Atomic Slash container image label something like very long repository name and it's the home of like definitions of labels like what labels should be put on images but unfortunately it's not maintained anymore pretty much. I mean I open an issue and sit there for months and no one responds. So as far as I remember originally or the last maintain was supposed to be R on the way to come but so yeah my question is like what do we do about it? Like do we still follow the repository with guidelines for labels or do we just like... I think we are in the key of the guidelines we have to expect that people have been on this list. The other option is hey what's the status of these labels? Is it still recommended that we... No, no, I'm not talking about... He's talking about the Project Atomic. Like basically we equaled some definitions from... There have been some labels about... Is this repository still maintained? Yeah, I agree. So it's definitely not up to date because for example this repository suggests to use some labels related to OpenShift but OpenShift doesn't consume them anymore so they are like deprecated or even should not be used because users might get like idea that OpenShift will consume it but it will not so it could be even harmful. So yeah, so I opened a bunch of issues and no one responded so I think that like this repository is no longer maintained and we should probably figure out what to do about it. Coming back to the quotes you have, there is one... The one with the link... Yes, yes, yes. I think that should be the atomic source of information of the labels and maybe even after they've been used on the guidelines just that this is maintained in the tool and maybe you have an easy access for people to just check which... If it can be in the tool, I think it's the best... My personal opinion is that it's the best place for... There are some... Some kind of rules and... Why not? That's the same question for those calling container. I think it's a very much template report. Is this up today? It seems almost... There is some container... I think it would just be the modularity of what happens to this... Yeah, that's a good question. So the organization is actually from our team and we developed EVGs when we were working for modularity and it was like proof of concept and it actually stayed as a proof of concept so there are not supposed to be like production ready or anything like that even so we have like tens of thousands of pools on Docker Hub so maybe it actually works. So it's probably up to us to figure out what we want to do with it. I think we should make sure where the template is and where the template is and just, you know, definitely keep this organization up to date or remove it. Yeah, okay. I think we have a big opportunity here with a lot of... Yeah, that's the thing. Like, do all of us have time to execute this? Maybe it's the whole main objective and because we are a whole shop of time so maybe we can focus this here. Yeah, I think I'd like to turn a little bit from the engineering goals that we had around and see some ways. So I'm not sure, for example, behind FISU or anything. I don't find it to be really a challenge because we're going to be like, it's crazy, we're going to be like months or something and we're going to be doing things. But if I could just pour it out because I don't think it's going to be easy because I haven't seen the progress of it. Because it has to be. I've been doing nicer visualizations than you might have. It's a question of... I don't know if I could... Just give me a second. What... Honestly, my personal opinion is that we should enable FISU tracking on the FISU network for miles or so. For example, there are still a lot of images that kind of work here. In this case, I use the atomic working tool and you go possibly other people and together they can achieve something. It kind of works. Some people will be good. A lot of people can open monitors that will probably... So I think we already have a leader of the SIG. So we have to comment whether he's fine with it. That's why you can do by best. So we are about 15 minutes till the coffee break. I'm sure it's your energy level right now whether we should go for coffee or... Any other topics? We will send them as possible if you somehow connect the forces in the same system. How do they use all this design? They have... It would be nice to share... Honza, what was the name of the crew? It's the CCCP. Oh, okay. They sent us containers... Yeah, they should have a whole system of their own to build images from GitHub then put to registry, validate them or whatever. They need to focus on more than just the extra images. It should be visible from the container. Alright, we actually met with Bama. Okay, so I guess that we can invite them for this meeting. Yeah, yeah. The focus is to have the same user experience for the images for Rails, and for S and F. Volunteer for that? Talking to Andrew, I'm not sure what are their plans. And especially whether these Git repositories will be combined would be an easy way. In this case, what is the plan for do this, like, is it already decided and it's matching for this case. Anything else before the coffee break? I guess let's go for coffee and after the break we can probably look at the issues in the atomic region and think about what we want to carry over to the container. Okay, thanks for coming so far.


Ahead of the 2023 General Elections, the Chief of Army Staff, Lieutenant General Farrukh Yahya, has called on commanders to be apolitical as the electioneering premier draws nearer. Lieutenant General Yahya stated this during the opening ceremony of a three-day second senior command and leadership seminar organized by the Sixth Division of the Nigerian Army in Portaqot, the reports. The Chief of Army Staff, represented by Major General Victor Izugu, said that he expects appropriate lines of communications between relevant security stakeholders to be established to facilitate cooperation during the planning, preparation and the execution of operations that would aid civil authorities. The Army Chief expressed optimism that the seminar would afford participants the opportunity to build on their individual capacity and contribute meaningfully towards enhancing army operations. Major General Izugu maintained that troops should be adequately trained, equipped and motivated to play their constitutional roles in supporting the country's security apparatus. On his part, the Chief of Training Major General Abdul Salam Ibrahim noted that a non-kinetic line of operations is essential in tackling contemporary security challenges adding that it is currently being reviewed to provide the Nigerian Army with the impetus needed to meet its constitutional mandate. Also speaking at the event, the General Officer commanding G.O.C. of Sixth Division of the Nigerian Army in Portaqot, Major General Ulufemi Uluye Day expressed confidence that the workshop will drive the vision and the philosophy of the Chief of Army Staff. The theme of the training was building the capacity of Nigerian Army to meet contemporary security challenges in a joint environment, the role of senior leadership.


I'm and scruville. Dig in at juiciness. Today we rack into a malealum song. It's Rithu. Scythera's project, Malebarakis. Music, mojo, season six, kappa tv. I think we've done a kappa tv before. We have done a kappa tv before. We wonder. Rithu, seasons sung by Scythera Krishnakumar is a malealum song from her hit project, Malebarakis, which celebrates music. Song goes upon appreciate in the music that lay hidden in plain sight in nature throughout the different seasons. How each season, Karola has six, has it's six? What seasons do you have? Please inform us. You have two extra seasons? Yeah, what do you have? We only have four here. Makes sense. India has more flavors, so it should have more seasonings. Seasonings? What are your two what are your two, what do you call them? Yeah. Spring, summer, winter, fall. Second season? 11th? Yeah, second spring and butter. Not to be called ghee. Yeah, okay. It has its own tune and symphony and one just needs to pay some attention to appreciate it. Heck, yeah, that's absolutely true. There is a cacophony of symphonic loveliness within nature and the world that we don't listen to because we're so busy listening to our own farts. Don't talk about my cacophony. Season six, come on, they made that up. Season six, there's six seasons. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Obviously that they would. One of the things that was could easily be missed in that is that song requires some very skilled breath control and knowing where to breathe. A lot of staggered breathing. She was pitch perfect, but the breathing on that, I bet if you talk to her about the difficulty of the song, one of the major difficulties of that song is maintaining proper breath support throughout because there were some phrases that it just didn't even sound like she was breathing. Yeah. And musically, I wasn't expecting that. I actually, you know, dealing with the seasons and stuff, I was kind of expecting something to be more ethereal and maybe incorporating natural sounds. So when it had the feel that it did at the start, it really took me by surprise, but I liked it. Yeah. I think it was really, really, really cool. I really enjoyed it musically. I don't have much to say. And it took us on the journey. It really did a great thing of making sure that the journey we took was based on the lyrics musically. It didn't change things up too much, but we went through all the seasons lyrically. Yeah. And I think we've seen another Crepa TV, if that's what it's called, and it was fantastic as well. So it looks like this is Molly Olim's like maybe Coke Studio. Okay. I don't know for sure. You guys let me know. But if so, they're wonderful. So let us know what other videos from them and thank you again to our wonderful subbers. As always, you always make the videos a thousand percent better. Yep. Thank you.


good morning everybody just waking myself up got old blue ready to go we're gonna go load our freight and head on down to minnesota we're in ontario right now northwestern ontario way on the edge close to manitoba where i'm from in a town called canora canora in a town in a town called canora town called canora wow okay i eat my coffee let's take care of that and then let's get this day going falls minnesota from fort francis will continue down the 71 on the other side of the border same highway highway six right and then six all the way down fort brainer i'm legal like i'm not overweight but i've got more weight on my trailer than on my drives probably about a thousand more pounds means when the truck goes over a bump it's nice and smooth but then the trailer hits the bump and it clink donkey kicks they're completely dismantling the canadian side under construction i'm not too sure what they're uh what they're doing exactly across here before it might be a little confusing there's a truckload that when i go by i'm in the middle of nowhere deer river is up the road here but it feels like it's the middle of nowhere right i shut her down in deer river i'm tired i want to get an early start tomorrow get my schedule on the right track going to bed early getting up early i know that goes against my natural way of living because usually i like to work late and sleep a little later wake up after the sun's up already right but that's not exactly how business hours work no no no caron caron don't get ahead of yourself we're gonna turn right you're wrong wrong i'm gonna turn right and pull into the truck stop there and hope that uh there's a parking spot there for me they only have like five spots here in town i've always found parking there so far but just a short day today just a short little jog down to deer river for four hours got another hour and a half to do tomorrow morning we'll get going bright and early and we'll be at the gate when they open up get this off my trailer and find out what we got going on next maybe we'll go back up for another one maybe we'll go to diluth maybe we'll go to minneapolis i don't know the options are endless i'm gonna get a good night's sleep tonight it's not that cold it's minus 11 celsius so we'll be able to shuttle blue down and not worry about having to start it in the cold in the morning it should be pretty good we're on the downhill now towards spring it should be easy going until then easy going until then well let's hope let's knock on wood but the whole loading process took way longer than i expected it to i don't know where'd you come from buddy i'm turning right down this little road here trailer through the ditch fantastic i've never done that again knock on wood but you see it on youtube all the time right and i'm on youtube all the time but i don't want to be on that youtube you know don't want to end up on one of those videos look what trucker josh did he put his trailer in the ditch there's no one here again okay said you can see the lines get right straight between them great there we go not too far forward not too far back you did good old blue you did good i'm just gonna let the government know that i'm done i'm going to bed now they got to know when i'm sleeping i'm gonna make sure i don't stay up past my bedtime they're very strict getting big trouble if i stay up past my bedtime i'll also get in big trouble if i wake up too early and start working too early they're very snoopy very nosy both governments canada and the us they want to know what i'm doing 24 hours a day even when i'm at home there has to be a log sheet or in here it's online there has to be a log page for every single day of my life when i'm at home it's just one straight line across off duty off duty midnight to midnight but i still have to show a record of that day every day of my life the government is right in there just sniffing around you know like a hound so one more thing we have to talk about today yet and i'm going to bring it up a couple more times as the time gets closer as we get closer and closer to the birth of our baby i have to remind you that i'm going to be taking about six weeks off my wife is having a c-section so she's going to need a lot of help after delivery at home she can't lift anything up she can't pick anything she can't even pick up the baby herself until you know it heals so i've got to be there i've sort of got to do everything for her and i'm happy to do that and i'm excited to do that it's going to be a great bonding experience uh for all of us all three of us just to have us together at home for both six weeks and we'll see how her recovery goes hopefully she's a quick healer if not hey we uh we'll just take whatever we time we need to take until i'm ready she's ready for me to head off to work again we also might have some family members that come stay with us so that i can get back to work because you know i can't stop working forever i wish i could but uh i'll have to go back eventually and if she's uh still not healed up probably i got some family members that'll come stay with us and and help out so we've got that all covered but the point i'm talking about now is there's going to be a lot of home time content coming i did a poll on on facebook and a poll on twitter asking all of you guys what you would rather me do i know a lot of you or some of you anyway subscribe to my channel strictly for the trucking content you know i'm trucker josh you want to see trucking stuff but there's a lot more to me and this channel has never been in my mind a trucking specific channel it's not a trucking channel i just happen to drive a truck all the time is like my big passion in life it's what i love to do but there's a lot more to my life a lot more to what makes me trucker josh that includes my family and stuff outside the truck as well for those of you who don't drive truck and who are thinking of driving truck in the future i think it provides a great insight into what the lifestyle is like not just on the road but also when you go home and how you balance the two so i like to include it all in one storyline but seeing as there's uh i'm going to be off the road for several weeks i asked you guys in the poll if you would rather me uh do all of my the the baby vlog baby content family content on another channel i have another channel called the silent trucker i haven't posted on there in a little while i plan to in the future i really like the idea of just having like me not talking just the sights and scenery and sounds of the truck i like that idea we also have a vlog channel called next chapter that was sort of our family family i own several youtube channel this is my main one though all the other ones are very small like under uh under a couple of thousand subscribers right because i don't talk about them much and i don't send you guys over there very much because i have everything on this channel trucker josh vlogs so my question was should i do all of my family content on a separate channel and then when i get home sort of tell this blog be like all right i'm going to be home come find me over on this channel for all the hometown content or should i keep it all together on this channel and continue the story of trucker josh all on this channel then what i can do is i what i what i've been doing already if you go into my onto my main channel page you'll click my username go to my channel go to my playlists i have all of my videos in a whole bunch of playlists by year if you want to go see what i was doing in 2014 there's a whole playlist of all my videos from 2014 same thing with you know 2015 16 17 18 9 20 all the way up till now for 10 years we're in season 10 right now of vlogging every day and there's videos from before that too so i have like 11 years at least 11 12 years of content here on this channel so what i could do is all the family content and upload it onto this channel because it's part of my story it's what makes me trucker josh it's not just me as my family too and then i'll just be sure to organize it into the home time playlist that way if it gets uploaded and you don't want to watch my home time videos you can just scroll past it and you know just wait for the trucking videos i just encourage you please stay subscribed because i will be back in the truck in may in the future so if you don't like the home time stuff please don't unsubscribe just because there's a bunch of home time stuff coming uh the the trucking stuff will return but i do encourage you to stick around and hang out with us as we hang out at home as we welcome this new life and new miracle into the world i'm beyond excited it's our first baby we're learning locks we're pretty much prepared right now we have everything in place i just have to set up the crib and stuff but we don't need the crib for the first month or two anyways i think i'm just excited to hold the baby for the first time and just like all the emotions that'll flood through me i can just imagine i've heard it from other dads already too and just thinking like the miracle of life like a new human has entered the world like how how did how like we know how it happened it was an IVF baby i was i was involved it was just that a doctor helped okay i was there i was there okay it's got my genetics it's already got my little chin that's why i have a beard because i have a very tiny chin looks it looks funny makes me look like a 14 year old the from our ultrasounds looks like baby has my little chin so it'll be a little mini me i guess yeah i don't know what to expect but i am going to be vlogging i don't know if it'll be every day when i'm at home i'm gonna try i want to tell you that i want to post every day while i'm at home i don't know if i'm gonna be able to but there will definitely be regular updates of what's happening and of course there will be the meet and greet live stream where you guys get to meet baby for the first time we're gonna reveal all the gifts that you guys have sent us in that live stream as well we've already been getting getting a few we have everything we need for baby we're doing fine we're in a good spot we don't need anything but there's just no stopping some of you so we really do appreciate all that thank you very much we're gonna give you all a big shout out and thank you in that live stream other net just uh well we're happy with you just tagging along watching being a part of our lives that's all i asked for also gotta remind you guys of the warning these scammers keep commenting in my comment section doesn't matter how many of my block they just keep popping up they'll reply to you and say hey come find me on whatsapp or come find me on telegram or hey i've got a surprise for you that's not me okay they they're stealing my profile picture and uh trying to lure you into a trap of some don't don't do that i try to block them as soon as i see them but uh the internet's a wild place so be internet smart be smart look at the username make sure it's my username it's got the little check mark beside it click on the username it should take you to my youtube channel while you're there explore all my playlists i got lots of videos for you to watch i'd love to keep you right here in this channel i'm not going to send you away to a different page that does not make sense i'm not going to take you from my page and say go over to that page you're already on my page i want to keep you here right here on my youtube page all right right here you stick around here as long as you want you're welcome to stay here 24 hours if you want just just keep watching videos i've got thousands of videos for you to watch playlists have them all nicely organized you got no reason to leave stick around right here on tjv i got days of entertainment for you your board sitting at home days probably weeks maybe a year of just straight tjv watching in the background you know what just put put the playlist on with automatic play so that it'll just play video after video after video after video while you're you know making supper or something or just hanging out around the house or maybe you're in the shop yeah just put trucker josh on put on one of the playlists that'll just go through all the all the videos for you see that's the only thing i asked for i only asked for you guys to stick around here on my page watch my videos and give me some feedback you know i like hearing from you guys and i always take what you guys say to heart and it influences me of how i go forward with future videos thanks for watching this today everybody i appreciate it there will be a lot of home time blogs coming in the future giving you a proper heads up so those of you who like that stuff you're getting excited those of you don't like that stuff you know to just hang tight until may when we're back on the road i'll see you guys all later thanks for hanging out all the way to the end


Hi everyone, Joe for jazby's casebreaks.com coming at you with the random number block randomizer for the following teams right here that's gonna ultimately sell out three and two. Pick your team nine coming up in the next video. If you're not familiar with this, that's how the random number block format works. Big thanks to this crew. I think this crew's familiar with it. Thank you. There are the numbers right there. And now let's roll it and randomize it. Five and a three, eight times for names and numbers. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight. Nathan down to Greg after eight. Five and a three, eight times for the numbers. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight. After eight, we've got six down to five. All right, Nathan, you've got the number six. James with one, and last Bob Mojo. Matthew with seven, Tani with eight, Duncan with zero. Duncan, you'll get any and all redemptions for this group of teams right here, including one-of-one redemptions that pop from pick your team nine. James, you'll still get live one-of-ones. Brian with three, Matthew with nine, Eddie with two, Nathan with four, and Greg with five. Let's order numerically. And coming up in the next video will be the break itself. We'll see you for that. JaspeysCaseBreaks.com, bye-bye.


Hello, my name is Quinn Kimmet and I'm Vince Devine and today Well, I'm gonna be showing Vince how to use the ATEM Mini to live edit. That's right Very excited. Sounds good. Let's hop to it So this is the back side of the ATEM Mini So the first thing that we're going to do is we're going to go to this power Take this Plug it in next we are going to skip the ATEM control the ATEM control Can be hooked up to your computer if necessary, but we're not going to do that today We're going to go to the USB out and into our USB out. We are going to plug in our drive drives plugged in Now comes the HDMI out and in the HDMI out we are going to plug in Program monitor if you can see right here Turn our program under on and we have no signal and that is because we need to plug in our cameras and Then we have mics one and two we're going to skip those for now But that's the back side of the ATEM Mini now let's get into the editing now There's a whole bunch of buttons here, and they're really Confusing at first, but we'll start with these nice colorful ones down here The first thing you need to know is that green means preview and red means program There are four possible cameras that you can plug into the ATEM Mini Pro and so if you want to you can Cut between The program and the preview by hitting this button right here. You can see when I press the cut button It switches back and forth Up here in the upper right corner is the record Stop on air and off buttons recording and stopping is when you're doing live editing and You can Press record and it will go directly to your drive and then you can hit stop On air and off is just the same as record and stop But it's if you are live streaming now if I click this M slash V in the lower Left corner of the video out section. You will now see that everything is displayed on the field monitor So you can see the preview the program all cameras Etc. So if you see me cut Preview and program will switch and so on if for example You only want to see what you will see in the final product You hit this lower right corner button on The ATEM Mini which is program you will see what is on program At all times no matter what I cut to if you want to do some sort of transition between your Cuts rather than just a plain cut you can go to this effect Panel, let's say you want to slide from the left from the top fade and Squish from left as well as the mix And the dip to white If for example, you want to change the duration of an effect You can go over to the duration section So that can range anywhere from half of a second to two seconds to say I want to mix with half a second see it's quite fast or I can mix with two seconds and And Now the final section that we'll be covering is the picture and picture section So say you want to display both camera one and two at the same time You can turn picture and picture on and you will see that currently in the upper right hand corner There is camera one I can switch it to the upper left hand corner Lower left or lower right and once you want the picture and picture to be gone Just click the off button And that concludes the lesson on the ATEM mini. Well Vince, have you learned something today? I did I learned a lot about live editing on the ATEM Sweet now. I believe it is your turn to show me something hmm Well, I do know how to blow my nose so it sounds kind of like a horn Do you want to hear that? Yeah, of course. Just pull out a tissue That is Impressive. Yeah, what did you think? Jeez? I wish I could do that All I can do It's unfortunate Don't get it one day


The other day, we compared the DeAndre Hopkins situation to a girl in school who nobody's interested in. Nobody's giving her the time of day. Nobody's checking for anything. But all of a sudden, one guy's like, huh, you know what, she is kind of pretty. I'ma try to talk to her. So he started talking to her, he shows interest in her, then other guys see that. And they like, you know, wait a minute, wait a minute, she is kind of pretty. You know what, I wanna try to talk to her too. So nobody was watching her. Nobody was checking for her. Nobody was interested in her. But all of a sudden, one guy, he showed interest and then that made a lot of people do the same thing too. It's the same exact thing with DeAndre Hopkins. This is exactly what we expected to happen. It's exactly what we talked about a couple of days ago when it was announced that DeAndre Hopkins was going to be visiting with the Tennessee Titans. Nobody was showing interest in DeAndre Hopkins. At least nobody was showing public interest in DeAndre Hopkins. Nobody was showing real interest. They may be interested in him, but they weren't showing it. Cause nobody was having him, bringing him in for a visit or anything like that. But now when the Titans, they set up that visit. It was announced that he was gonna be going to Tennessee to go visit with them. Now, coincidentally, I think not, but the Patriots, now they are gonna be hosting DeAndre Hopkins on a visit. And let's read the report straight from Ian Rappaport. He said, for my Arizona Cardinals, where I receive what DeAndre Hopkins is set to visit the Patriots next week, source or say. This is after his Titans visit, as Hopkins free agent market heats up. So we were talking about New England could add a Top Pass catcher for Mac Jones. And yeah, that would be nice for Mac Jones. That would be a nice little upgrade for Mac Jones, getting a nice short-handed wide receiver. I mean, for any quarterback, it's always nice to have short-handed wide receivers. But DeAndre Hopkins is exactly that. But, and Ian Rappaport also added, DeAndre Hopkins visit to the Patriots makes sense for a lot of reasons. Here's one, he played for now Pat's offensive coordinator below Brian to start his career in Houston and was an all pro three times in his offense. A reunion would be fascinating. Now, that makes sense, that makes a whole lot of sense, especially with DeAndre Hopkins being a little bit older. When you're older in the workforce or work field or whatnot, and especially when you're working with a lot of younger people, a lot of younger people work in your field, you work in a very competitive field. As an older person, you are going to want to look for advantages that you can have over the younger people. You're gonna look for any leg up that you can have over them because why they're your competition? That's what you're going up against. And you do not wanna lose your job to a young person.  And it's the same way with football players. And I think especially, it happens with younger ones too, but definitely with players that are a little bit older.  But when you're a little bit older and you get a taste of free agency, and it's getting late, it's getting late. I mean, it's not July yet, but this stuff is moving, man. But you, especially if maybe you may not really wanna do a bunch of training camp, even if you do or you don't, you want to go somewhere that you know. You wanna go somewhere that you know the system. You may know the coaching staff and it's the same way in the workforce.  Hey, yeah, yeah, put me on, man. Yeah, I'm gonna give you my resume, send it to your hiring manager, put me on. So we done all been there before. So with DeAndre Hopkins to the Patriots, him having a visit with them, yeah. Like Ian Rappaport said, it does make a lot of sense. But at the same time, I still think it's just a business move, calculated business move at that. Like I mentioned earlier, DeAndre Hopkins, he's been a free agent for a little while now.  Nobody's been showing real interest. They may be having, they may be interested in them a little bit, but they ain't been showing real and real, real interest would be, hey, DeAndre Hopkins, come out here, come take a physical, let's see what you got. But nobody's been doing that. And hey, who knows, maybe I could be wrong. Maybe it may have been DeAndre Hopkins just waiting till he was in a position where he could take visits. Hey, that could be the case. But now that the first team showed real interest, that being the Titans, now the Patriots are too. And I think what DeAndre Hopkins could be doing, which would make a lot of sense, he could be showing other teams that he may really be interested in. Because if his list and whatnot of once from a team is true, if it is accurate, then yeah, this would be him using those teams, using the Titans, using the Patriots to be like, I'm willing to go on visits with them, but real teams, hey, you see me, you see me. You see me, I'm out here, baby. Let's talk soon, hopefully. But that could be him going on those visits with those teams, those lesser teams and whatnot, to try to show the upper teams or the better teams that, hey, come get me, I'm ready. I'm ready to make something happen. I'm ready to make moves, because it's business, man. It's business.  And he was like, oh, DeAndre Hopkins said he wants to win, but he going on a visit with the Titans, he's like, oh yeah, it's all about money. And I mean, if it is all about money, which I mean, that is part of it. That's a big part of it, which I am at it. Like, because it's like DeAndre Hopkins, I feel like now with him, he's never going to get paid. He's still gonna make a significant amount of money, but he's never going to get paid as much as he once did before. And again, that's not necessarily a bad thing because he got paid a lot of money before. He's still gonna get a good amount of money now, but I feel like now his contracts are only going to get less, become less. And again, making less than what he made before, still a lot of money, still gonna make a lot of money, but I just feel like it won't be the same as it once was if you get me. So, let's see what happens with DeAndre Hopkins, man. Still can play, obviously. Still can ball, obviously. Still gonna be a good row I receive for wherever he goes, but he, I feel like wherever he goes, it ain't gonna be no role-player type of thing. Like, you ain't bringing in no DeHop to be no role-player, man. Like, no, he ain't at that point in his career. So, if you bring in DeHop, like, they gotta be your guy. Like, they gotta be one of your top guys, because, again, he's an established guy. He's been like that, still is like that. So, I don't think he's gonna wanna take a backseat. So, that's something that whoever gonna bring in DeAndre Hopkins, you gotta think about that. And I feel like the Patriots are in a good position to bring in DeAndre Hopkins. Who are you gonna take a backseat to? He ain't gonna take up a backseat with nobody there. But at the same time, with Bill Belichick, he is a, he's not really a numbers guy. He is a guy who's very, very big on, obviously big on the team. But he's not really into all the individual stuff. I mean, you can get it there, he and there, but as far as all the individual stuff, no. Nah, he ain't gonna tolerate that. And again, like, people always talk about who played for the Patriots. They say it's not fun there. The winning is great, well, it was. But they say it's just not fun there, it's just different. Even though, you know what? I take it back because our guy, Matt Judon. Matt Judon, actually, he did recently say, sometime last year, he said that it is fun playing in New England, but at the same time, they ain't been winning like they used to win before. So, maybe that's why it's fun that they ain't winning this much, man. But, I don't know, we'll see what happens with this whole DeAndre Hopkins thing, man. It's fun, it's fun watching, being on DeAndre Hopkins watch and seeing where he's gonna end up going. But anyway, team keeping clean. I love y'all. I appreciate y'all so much more than you know. I really, really, really do. Make sure you subscribe to the channel. Make sure you turn your notifications on so you don't miss no videos, no updates on anything that goes on, whether it's with the Ravens or not, I mean, you used to love with the Ravens, but I really do love y'all. Thank you so much for supporting. Thank you for being who y'all are and how y'all are. I appreciate you and we out. 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Hi friends, welcome back to my channel and welcome if you're new here. My name is Jen. I'm a certified weight loss and nutrition coach And I'm on the WW blue plan. It's Saturday So it's grocery haul day and I have a massive and when I say massive it's capital M a ss Ive it is $600 massive. I was pretty much out of just about everything So I had to do a massive stock up on meat fruit Vegetables pantry staples and made my monthly trip to Costco which resulted in almost a $400 bill and not to mention Thanksgiving on top of that. So this is a huge haul. I actually went to four stores I did target Walmart grocery pickup Costco and natural grocers Which is kind of like our sprouts or whole foods because we don't have either of those stores here So it's massive. 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I apologize for any background noise We have a bathroom remodel going on so you'll hear drilling and pounding like that So I apologize in advance for that So let's jump in because this is only part one of this huge grocery haul So Costco, I picked up this huge bag of Parmesan cheese This was 999 and we go through so much Parmesan and it's pricey You can pay $5 for one of these small little plastic containers So I went ahead and grab this it lasts forever It has several several month expiration date and you couldn't beat it for 999 Also at Costco I picked up the Adele's chicken meatballs teriyaki and pineapple These are actually on coupon for about $10. You can have four meatballs for 140 calories So it's really really good. No artificial ingredients. No nitrates nitrites and they're pork-free and anything Adele's is really good quality So I had to go ahead and pick those up That just happened. That's how full this kitchen island is. I did a major stock up of kombucha It was actually on sale for $2 and 99 cents at Target and $2 and 50 cents at natural grocers So I stocked up. I did pick up my favorite the gingerberry the 25th edition of the sacred life I grabbed one of those lots of flavors. I have the pink lady apple, which is really good the Guava goddess and then a couple of the fall edition which you guys know that I love and then I also picked up a passion berry bliss and I think that's it. Yep another gingerberry so two four six eight bottles of kombucha That's enough for the week plus an extra and then I needed some reduced fat cream cheese for a dinner recipe I freeze whatever I don't use so that it doesn't go bad And it works really really well to go ahead and freeze the leftovers and then this was on the target circle the two Good vanilla yogurt so I picked up a four pack because I'm almost out of yogurt And I've been liking having this as a good high protein snack on my meat because meat prices number one are going crazy And number two, it's hard to find meat with another shutdown here in my state. So I went ahead and stocked up I'm completely out of hamburger in my freezer So I definitely needed that and then I found some really good deals on chicken and ground turkey So I did grab at Walmart to one pound packages of 96% extra lean ground beef And then I picked up three three packs of the 937 grass-fed grass finish you guys This is the best hamburger ever and you get three pounds for about $18 and I picked up two three packs so six pounds total and then some 99% ground turkey also from Walmart and then a killer deal at Target for chicken. These are chicken tenderloins 650 a pack $3 off makes them $3 and 50 cents a pack I grabbed both packs that they had and again, I'll just pop these into my freezer at Trader Joe's I found this tomato basil marinara that's organic and we are out of spaghetti sauce I have not had time to make these skinny-ish dish So I picked this up because I think we may actually have spaghetti for dinner tonight And this is really good if you have a Trader Joe's in your area and then I Went ahead and grabbed another box of the Clio minis I like to have these sometimes I don't want to spend a lot of calories or points on a dessert So this actually hits the spot and gives me four grams of protein, which is awesome And then at Costco on coupon. They had their whole milk Greek yogurt Chobani This was $2.99 for this and you guys know I prefer full-fat dairy So I went ahead and grabbed this I can always mix in granola or maple syrup or sugar alternative or fresh fruit To kind of give it a more fruity yogurt and like I mentioned I was out of yogurt and I could not pass up to 99 for this huge container I needed to restock my black pepper I am out of my refill and then this is a new find for me at Target and I actually saw this same brand at natural grocers This is the mother raw ranch a plant-powered dressing and marinade now It's a hundred calories for two tablespoons, but these ingredients are absolute Perfection for a salad dressing and I picked up a bag of lettuce last week that I haven't eaten so I think for lunch today I'm gonna do a salad and I've been making my Jen salad dressing with the balsamic vinegar But I just wanted something quick and easy We're also having some friends over on a Saturday night for a pizza night for our birthdays and we'll have salad So I'm excited to try this let me know down in the comments If you've tried the mother's raw products. I saw that they had dips Dressings they had quite a few different things and I don't know if it's new to the market or if it's new to me a loaf of Buttermilk bread for Troy sandwiches. He's doing BLT's this week So you'll see all the bacon that I picked up for that and I did decide to grab another container of the mini pepper Memorangs from Trader Joe's. I still have a full one, but I don't want to run out I don't want them to sell out because I absolutely positively love these They're a very low point low calorie sweet treat and they only come around once a year So I picked up another container and then zip is for Troy He takes this in his lunch if you guys aren't familiar with zip is it's a really good all natural energy source This pack from Costco has grapefruit punch and orange and it's really good It's all natural B12 energy that lasts four to six hours You just dump it into a bottle of water and drink it it tastes good and I'm telling you it does definitely make a difference It's a great dupe for energy drinks Another box of little bites for Troy's lunches He's out and again best price at Walmart for 98 for 10 pouches Another refill of the Chobani coffee creamer in caramel. This is one of my very favorites Now I heard that Chobani actually put out a seasonal flavor a peppermint one, but I can't find it anywhere So I grabbed the caramel because like I said, I do really like that one I needed a can of cream of chicken soup. This is for a dinner recipe this next week This specific one is really really good at natural grocers I saw this reos Italian wedding soup and I grabbed it because I was like oh that sounds really good You can have a serving for 160 calories or the whole jar for 290 of course points are on the screen This was a little under five dollars, which is a little bit pricey for soup But I wanted to try it because reos just makes really good high quality product And then I went to Costco. They have a three pack of the same soup for eight dollars So that is a killer killer deal So if you are interested in trying this soup and you have a Costco near you Pick it up there because you can't beat eight dollars for three of them. So now I have four So hopefully it's really good because I have reos soup coming out my ears I also added four full-size clio bars to my cart as well And since I got the lemon minis I went ahead and selected the strawberry for the full-size bars just again So that I have some full-size ones on hand Sometimes I have points and calories for the larger bars. So I just wanted to make sure that I had some I also needed a small thing of sour cream for Thanksgiving I actually add sour cream to my mashed potatoes And then at natural grocers and the main reason that I go there as you know Is for my good culture whole milk cottage cheese So I went ahead and picked up three containers that way that'll last me a while. This is a great source of protein It's nice and filling. It's really good for you. And if you haven't tried good culture What are you waiting for because it is the best? So I have three of those that should last me until my next natural grocers trip three stock of the kid fresh nuggets I'm completely out and I love these. These make a really quick easy lunch. They make a great topper for a salad These are my favorite. These taste better to me than any other nuggets. They have good ingredients They have a little bit of added extra veggies to them and a whole grain coating. They're really really good So highly recommend the kid fresh nuggets. I needed whole milk for two recipes So I picked up a quart that should be enough for the two recipes. These are for Troy's lunch He really likes these pure layered fruit bars. Now if I eat these I do not count them as points It's dried fruit. There's no added sugar and I don't count points for dried fruit But these do I think have two or three points technically But these are really good and they added a new flavor of raspberry lemon aid Normally you just received the pineapple passion fruit and the strawberry banana But now there's the third one So I know that he'll be excited about that a restock of trader joe's light shredded mexican blend because Hashtag we always have this on hand frozen shredded potatoes. This is for a recipe this next week I went ahead and ordered the hawaiian sweet rolls They substituted with these sweet buttery rolls, which are probably the same thing This is for breakfast meal prep You guys definitely want to stay tuned for the end of the video for my meal plan and meal prep And definitely want to check out monday's meal prep video. It's going to be awesome So I needed these rolls for that This was a substitution as well I actually ordered my favorite happy eggs and they were out So they substituted with these organic eggs. These are not as good But I just accepted the substitution because I didn't want to hit up another store I had all this in my car So I wanted to make sure I got home before it got cold So I went ahead and just accepted these eggs I need these for baking as well. So it actually will work itself out At costco a restock of the chosen foods avocado spray And I almost passed this up because they changed the packaging from the old avocado spray But this is a killer deal. It's 11 dollars for two 13 and a half ounce containers Which is such a good price. You can pay five dollars for the tiny little container at the grocery store So I always stock up on this from costco four sweet treat yasso coffee chocolate chip bars I love these these are good and they do pack a little bit of protein Which is always a win in a sweet treat and then I went ahead and picked up some reduced sugar swiss mist I have a couple of closings for real estate They have children and I bought them those little stir spoons from trader joe's if I can find a picture I'll pop it in here So I want to include a pack of hot chocolate and I thought might as well get the reduced calorie And then I can enjoy whatever is left over as well And then like I said a lot of bacon three packages of the fully cooked bacon for choice BLT's he said add lots of bacon Otherwise, it just doesn't keep him full. So I figured I could add About 10 slices per sandwich, which will be absolutely perfect at natural grocers There was a coupon on cka. And you know, I love these. These are the lime flavored grain free tortilla chips These were 3.99 with the discount. So I thought we could have chips and salsa one night This is my turkey for Thanksgiving. This is a ready to roast whole turkey. This is awesome. It was 1999 at target It comes with the roasting bag and it also comes with gravy packets So it just makes Thanksgiving super easy.  Oh, here we go. Yellow potatoes for Thanksgiving This is red potatoes for a dinner recipe for this next week From Costco a restock of the big bottle of avocado oil Again, I always pick this up once a month and that way I never run out This is the best price at Costco like seriously the best price a couple of fun beers for Thanksgiving and Christmas So this is the rogue 2020 santa private reserve peppermint bark milk stout beer. How fun is that? So i'm going to save this for Christmas My mom was with me at Costco and her and I are going to dive into this on Christmas And then because I didn't get to go to leavenworth this year for our anniversary and our birthday This is the beer that I am obsessed with that I get every year at leavenworth This is the dark persuasion beer from icicle brewery company This is german chocolate cake beer and it literally tastes like german chocolate cake It's incredible. So I picked this up mom and I are going to share it on Thanksgiving If you can find this highly highly highly recommend It's incredible restock of maple syrup. You can't pass 999 for this huge thing of maple syrup an entire leader for 999 at Costco And then I needed some broth. I actually only needed a can of edgy broth But they didn't have any in organic. So I just picked up the box I will definitely use it up and then a box of organic beef broth as well at Costco I had to get the snack factory white chocolate and peppermint.  So I'm actually going to weigh and measure them out Put them in baggies. So I don't overeat them, but they are well worth the points They are so so good and again, they're seasonal. So pick them up if you can find them Troy's circus animal cookies for his lunch. This was a substitution I actually paid for a 12 pack and they substituted a 20 pack because they were out of the 12 packs So that was a bit of a win for me and then a big box of the welches fruit snacks That's another thing that Troy puts in his lunch every day. These are currently on coupon at Costco for 799 for 90 pouches. So that's a great deal. I bought this last year for Christmas So I went ahead and bought it again this year. This is the organic cracker assortment from Trader Joe's This is only 399 and these crackers are so perfect for the holidays We like to do meat and cheese and crackers. So I'm just going to throw this in storage until Christmas There was only about five boxes left at Trader Joe's. So if you see these grab them I think that they will be gone before Christmas actually rolls around this year And then from Costco a refill of the uncured lanyard sausages. These are individually wrapped They're like pepperoni sticks. Troy really likes having these in his lunch So I did a repurchase of those now everything else I have is produce and is zero points So I have a box of frozen spinach. This is actually for a recipe a big bag of granny smith apples This is for meal prep again. You're not going to want to miss meal prep Sweet onions from Trader Joe's. These are my favorite organic onions. They're so so good And then one tomato for Troy's BLT's I have a tomato left in the fridge a bag of whole carrots for a recipe And then down under my potatoes is actually two bags of baby spinach Both of these are also for a recipe. So that is everything that I picked up for food Holy moly, we still have the non-food items to go. So that's coming up next part two of this massive hall is all of the non-food items I also picked up a case of diet coke and beer and water from Costco I just didn't show those to you So let's jump into the second part of the haul on my walmart pickup I added toilet paper because I wasn't sure if Costco would have any and we are almost out So I'm definitely stocked up now because walmart had it in soda Costco. So that's what I ordered from walmart I did pick up the big pack from Costco as well as a big pack of paper towels We also needed some mouthwash and this was on sale for $7.99 for three, which is a really really good price A restock on our heartburn medicine. We always pick this up at Costco Usually I buy two but I have enough to make it a month with only buying one So that's why I only picked up one this time At target. I grab my sleep vitamins. These are some of my favorites the hymns and hers rest sleep These are those kind of sugary bears. These are really good. They work really well and they're super affordable So I have those and then for the dogs at trader joes because I can't go to trader joes without thinking of my dogs I grab these salmon and sweet potato dog treats and then at target all of their pet Holiday things were 20 off and these whims these are great because they're all natural. There's no grain. There's no chicken And how cute it's little christmas trees and snowmen So i'm going to divide these between the two dogs for their stockings paper plates because Don't want to do dishes. I did pick up some new cookie cutters this year. These are all a dollar at target So I did a sand a stocking a christmas tree a star A holiday ornament, which is super cute a snowflake The santa claws a gingerbread man and a reindeer So it was eight dollars for a whole new set of cookie cutters, which is not bad And these are nice metal with the rubberized top so it's comfortable for you to cut the dough A hook for the back of the spare bathroom that we're using During our bathroom remodel because we have not a single hook in there to hang our towels on So this just slides right over the door one for me one for troy. So it's perfect. This was 799 at target I also grabbed a container of disinfecting wipes. They were limit one But I wanted to grab them Good thing I did because they had zero at costco dishwasher detergent This is my favorite because we're on septic. We can't actually use the kind that have the granules or the powder So this is the liquid type is what we have to use and this one is less than 10 dollars And this lasts me several months. So I picked that up I did find a couple cute clothing things. So this is some workout pants. These are from costco 1299 They're buttery soft. Oh my goodness and they have pockets, which is great and then this super cute camo Really oversized really soft sweatshirt was also only 12 99 And I thought this would be really cute with boots and leggings My favorite makeup remover wipes from costco. I'm out completely. That's why last week I picked up the neutrogena ones So I stocked up and then I couldn't pass up the cedar and balsam holiday scented candle from trader joes because I love anything Pine scented so I grabbed that and then this is really fun This is called the rock plus and I this is at costco currently on sale. It's a reversible grill and griddle So one side is red for grilled chicken and veggies and the other side is flat for eggs pancakes bacon So this was awesome. If you want to grill chicken indoors during the winter It was 16 99 on sale And if you remember last year, I did the 12 days of beauty from trader joes Of course, I had to do it again. She said that there are new items in this year's 12 days of beauty So that is super exciting. I have several advent calendars I think I have three and the dogs even have one So we are going to be adventing calendaring it up for december, which is so exciting And then I need to restock my trash bags for the kitchen And then they actually have the spray lysol, which I haven't been able to find anywhere at costco in this four pack Was only 16 99 so that is everything for all of the non food items So now let's get into what I'm doing for my meal plan and my meal prep So let's jump into this week's meal plan Saturday is pizza night We're actually celebrating our anniversary and birthday with some friends And we're going to do pizza and probably dessert and beer It's going to be a great night and a great celebration since we didn't get to go to leavenworth washington this year So that is saturday sunday. I'm doing a parmesan spinach mushroom pasta skillet So stay tuned for this recipe in my what I eat in a day next wednesday You'll see this recipe and it sounds so good Monday is guiness beef stew So using a bottle of guiness beer it makes an incredible beef stew So hopefully i'll be able to share this recipe with you guys as well Tuesday's leftovers even though I can't do jazzercise in studio. I'm still doing the night class at home Wednesday is instant pot garlic parmesan chicken and rice. This sounds so good Who doesn't love garlic and parmesan and rice? Hello? So that sounds amazing thursday is Thanksgiving So happy Thanksgiving in advance my friends and then Friday, of course is a leftover night because Hashtag Thanksgiving So let's jump into what I am doing for my meal prep that you guys will see in monday's video Here's this week's meal prep. So for breakfast. I'm making a savory breakfast bunt cake. Doesn't that sound amazing? It's not cake. It's savory and I can't wait to share it with you guys It's a whole different recipe than I've ever made before So I'm excited for that on monday and then lunch. I'm doing ranch chicken poppers.  So I'm excited for that I'll probably pair that with a veg and then for a snap tis the season of fall And Thanksgiving I'm making an apple crumble bar and these are decadent But wait until you hear the points and calories You're definitely not going to want to miss meal prep where I'll show all three of these videos That will be up on monday. Thank you for joining me on another weekly ww grocery haul I'm pooped you guys. That was a lot of shopping a lot of filming putting away It was a big one So I am stocked up now for a month or longer for Costco And I am ready to go for Thanksgiving as well as my meal plan and meal prep for this next week Which I hope you're as excited as I am about that meal prep Make sure you check that video out on monday if you enjoyed today's video Please give it a thumbs up and make sure you're subscribed again Help me reach that 30 000 subscribers by the end of the year and check out that description box for my nutrition coaching website Links and discount codes to my favorite things and of course my facebook group Happy saturday my beautiful friends. Enjoy your weekend and I'll see you in my next video