Oh yeah, yeah This up for our comments We've got a hello off Sarah Okay, and we've got a few more Yeah, I'll catch up with these comments in a second just putting this post up before so and so starts complaining It'll make sense why I did that in a minute if you look on the Instagram, okay You'll get to see our really elaborate setup as well Welcome everybody So we've got a hello from Sarah. Hi Sarah Jacob Barrow. Hello. Hi Jacob, and it's gonna be Cheslin No, thank you Oh Cheslin Alfie Alfie Ghana. Oh Marshall. Hi Bob Brickie. Hi Jacob. Guessing you've heard the news. Yeah. Yeah, Harry Harry Harris Hello, thanks, Harry Molly hello Ryan Ogden hello and Gary Ross. Hello Long catch up so hello everybody. I can read everything now I've got my roadies t-shirt on by the way. You have to the heat waves over If we didn't have them, it's not over storms. It'd be all right. Yeah, it's not over for us It's fully roasting today. Well, we've been cooped up in a Garage in a garage for the last few days doing a really big steel job So It's been extra hot and very dusty but like we came back the mines today. Yeah It's not it's not it's warm like you don't you don't really wear goggles and mask and ear defenders and hat So it's it's odd Yeah, we had in An absolutely torrential downpour used to put up the Instagram on the way home luckily we just finished with it We had a little bit today as well Yeah, like in the day. Yeah, it's randomly. Yeah, cause you've got the cement, isn't it? And Jessen has the weather so yeah, very stormy at the moment Hi, Doug Doug bite if anyone doesn't know is the genius you made our little That's for sure. Yeah, get out for the YouTube careful with it Steals look heavy in the last video. Oh, they were bloody heavy the ones we've done We did some today as well, which weren't as bad But um, we're just a bit awkward, but those ones are bloody heavy And you couldn't hear it in the video because it was time-lapse But I did give out big I give it like a very girlish streak of terror because they are steel walled that way I was not prepared for it There we are there's a dog's creation There's the camera starts at the bottom the Bit of muck fell off the muck board. There's Alex with the spade and his amazing hair And his glasses And then we're doing a little job as always is the ongoing There's me and my glasses and we bubble that on And then At the back you've got the breaker. Oh, no, it's the reciprocates. Sorry, isn't it? Yeah You can quite pick it up. There's a little blade on it and then Blocks It's an absolute work of art So that's by Doug who's in the chat He's not made many of these so we're very very Chuffed to have one made for us I think John A and he's the last one to get one That's pretty cool tape um True dog Oh true dog Hi, Steve likes my savory workers brilliant been watching you both for a while now love your work Why let's keep up the good work and busy coming. Thank you very much. Thank you very much We'll do our best. We need to uh, we need to spice our videos up again a bit with a Fell into a bit of a rut. Yeah, we need to spice up a bit. We need to talk to rodien again Yeah, rodien doing what he's talking about. Steve live it evening. Hi, Steve It is a absolutely fantastic that takes about a place in our rare cabin in the living room that Love it. Love it. It's just the best You just put it back into shot there That's a perfect match. Look at that so any questions I thought the whole point is that we had stuff set up. Well, we've got a little list there That's not gonna take long to read that list out Perfect There we go right Ryan Ogden Question is it fine to do a concrete slab for the is it fine to do a concrete slab for the garden? It's not big it only going to be walked on Three inch hardcore two inch concrete it will this thing to be thicker thicker better, but money I'd go thicker than two inches I've got a go in Minimum three inches if it's just going to walk down. I think that's about three inches Yeah, that's been fine, isn't it? As long as the hardcore is properly done underneath it really compacted Make sure you get a wacker for it. Make sure it's really well compacted Mark Mark and Mark There's two marks. They came out at the same time right at the same time. Yeah So I may be It's like it's like you and it's funny. Mark. Mark. He usually usually misses this so welcome back mark Um two dog, uh the father I feel where like I'm stereotyping by saying his name And father and son bonjo shows the quality of your work. You both work brilliant together On camera Mr. Blue WK what are your feelings on the HR? Oh on queen Elizabeth passing away What's that news? Yeah It's all you're going to see for the next I think it's a month before I think it's a month official morning So it's all you're going to see for I think everyone's going to get pretty sick of it eventually because it's going to be there for a month And you're going to have the people are going to milk it But it's obviously it's sad. It's a big deal. Um You know almost everyone in the country is the only one that they've ever known So it's it's going to be weird. It's going to be weird having the king but um Obviously it's not the sort of thing a lot of people have talked about for a long time But um, yeah, it's always sad as feels for the family and the the kids and the grandkids So Ryan's but three inches it is then for the concrete It's better to be safe than having to pay more money later just to get it fixed Question for Alex. When did I start working with with you? 2015 I did my first like bit of work for him. That's when I left school And then like I had my little six weeks and then I um And then I started so it was like late 2015 Like 20 I think 2016 officially was like I was on site and such but I started doing work for him in 2015 Um, no, there's only one of me. Definitely one of you Derek do you guys think the rate of cowboy builders has dropped since social media as it's easy to vet builders? No not really because People would just be cow people can still be cowboys and still upload it Let me get that picture of that porch. We did show you what All you do that I'll read up We took a porch down and we left the internal wall up because of course we wanted us to that's the view That's the view from the cavity inside the cavity It's a slight bit. You can you can hardly make it out, but it's very SHIT. Yeah Um, I'm on 10% here. I need a power work Um, I'll try to hit the like button. Thank you very much. Yes, please and subscribe if you knew Yes, I'm turning to you now Steve's but that's brilliant to think Um, Ian, are you not going to play some music like the tricky one? We're we're not we're not a dj group. Unfortunately. No, we don't have our we don't have our records. No Um Mark who I'm mark one. He's marked him Sorry mark really mark two and three because mark mark kept spin around a very long time We we we've been watching him for a long time and vice versa like We've been out this four years now, so Doug said thanks for the uh, we'll shout out. Oh, yeah, let's put the trial out. You can see it better for me Uh, let's see greek Done my apprenticeship with my dad and it's the hardest emotional warning thing ever Done similar work to yourself and learn so much. Oh, definitely. I learned I learned all me schooled me technique Technical technical stuff. Yeah. Yeah the technical stuff in college and all the practical stuff with dad So it was a nice blend for me. He was doing all coloring up and setting out and that at college And then he started off in the foundation and we just running commons in Some way to open the steering wheel. I'm not looking forward to King Charles III And it's somewhat weird out looking a lot of stuff. Well, it's not a yes or he's saying does he? None of them do Harry I guys said last job he did with the steel plates And why did you drill holes in the wall think you call it stitching? We did that today as well. So Stitch drill it's an alternative to using the steel saw or a grinder and cutting the big cutting the mark out It's just loads of dust and mess Whereas doing the stitch drill you you same Stitch it with the holes in the air with the drill And then when you're knocking out the bricks and the blocks wherever they just chip off where the holes were Yeah, so it makes it easier and like cleaner To stitch drill it. We've got a stillie and we've got another one We'll talk about that later the evolution saw both got water suppression on but When you inside somebody's house, it's a garage, but we're cutting into into the dining room All right, it keeps the dust down that water suppression just makes a mess of everything including you Yeah Molly Question I built a back lean lean to lean to and the customer got my laborer After telling my order, I'd run out of sand and had four boxes of cement left over the laborer was from port school He was making 11 to one mix Jesus I suggest you go back at me point that or rebuild it Oh, what Martin's on Martin's in hello, Martin Hello chaps does anyone know the origin of the term close close that is in king and queen and bevel etc I don't know. I thought you'd know that Martin of all people to be honest, but um, or is he setting us up? Yeah, it's true Rob Songa. He's a man and um, I reckon Oh, what was his name? Um, so I did his old fancy brick working. No, not Morgan. Um They're doing all the rubbers and the shape bricks at the at the show for those more than no Ronny Ronny. Yes, Ronny He's he's he's into all that kind of stuff. Shame he's not on but he'd have an idea Nice as they're doing Portugal would it be okay. I'm not qualified at bricky 11 to one mix is not good. It's very very weak We do we do a fourth. We do a four to one Yeah, four to one. Yeah. Yeah four to one four and a half to one roughly depends on depends how it looks um Martin even the older brother as well We are Martin, but um, we picked a job. Well, YouTube pictures actually it's because it's a one of our viewers um named John and Tracy, isn't it? I think so, yeah, well they got on to us from YouTube and That's the job at the moment which of which will be on YouTube a few weeks But um, it's near Bolton, which is it's a good hour each way for us, which we're not used to are we? No We're not used to sitting in traffic and driving long way So the journey's tough, but the job's enjoyable So it's worth it when we get there next And Ian's pork mark had many guinnesses today, but yes, those but they're still milking down Oh god, so we're only at the end of this one. We just don't do enough research. I know a guy who's in prison Good god Do you know we worked at a firm and It was a groundwork experiment and they had a lad waiting for them and he had a tag on I'm gonna, uh, grab a power like that. Yeah Keep an eye on the comments Well, yeah, quick I've left off the trial before there's the trial Should really put that in views, you know put that to this Chesley I've learned a lot from watching this channel. Thank you. Chesley All good. I hope Harry Harris I understand that now. Thanks. No worries, Harry Mark, have you not get rained off today was a bit crappy at our tent up um Well, we're working in like saving the garage conversion. So We've picked the back door up up to the window height that's done today and we're knocking out We're putting in two three point six mrs. Steals all bolted up and everything and we're doing the doorway And the garage's been partitioned off into two rooms and then we're picking the front of the garage up next Monday with the Dobby Robbie So we need to wait till look till they're there with the window So tomorrow is getting the rest of the um The rest of the steel the rest of the holes knocked out and the steels and the little spoon Where are we at? They mark asking about the weather Mark about the weather Coco Savage says hi. What's that? Oh, just showing up too. So There's the big opening with the steel and then they've got a small opening here. It's going to be a door Mark's on whisky and Coco come with me Right, get in a bit. I'm not a bit understanding of you Ian's but be a tent mark Yeah Mellie, it's still It's still up to 20 years later 11 to 1. That's the ratio in Portugal, he said Bloody hell I wonder if it's earthquake proof Or a good hard push proof Mr. Blue Devil, do you need planning permission to have foundations poured for a future extension when you can afford just the first stage of the extension bill asking for a friend? Um You'll need planning permission for the extension anyway. So I don't think it matters when you pour it They do that a lot on site when you're doing when you start a site they'll um dig out A couple of foundations concrete them and bury them and then put the Car park and stuff on with the builder's house Build a couple of plots up to come no concrete and bury them and put the carpark and stuff there And then at the end of the the job they dig them up and build the houses Um, Stuart and what happened to Liverpool? Oops. Hmm. What would you definitely do? They lost all one. Ah Slot be the next to go He's the manager Fair blaster, what is that? What is what? Fair blaster Kind of only it. What's our plan for tomorrow? Going back to that job that does has been showing We're gonna get the rest of the steels in do a bit of smashing and the rest of the windmills in Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention this job We um, we lost only a day waiting for a skit Skit never showed up and it really did come it came in 20 past three So, um, I think last night we finished at six didn't we?  You need to upload more videos every week He's heard here. You come and do the editing for us then at his limit. Yeah Maly do the roots the roots probably keep it up. Yeah Derek interesting with hearing all the loopholes Stuart it's not so much the planning consent, but once you start work you have to complete Lot within the time allowed. I'm not sure but things are maximum of five years Check with your local planning department. There you go That's the beauty of this comment section. There's always something that'll put you straight and let you know Obviously, I was wrong. I didn't know that I tell you what I do know when I'm on a building site when they doing foundations I think once the foundations are up to slap The developer has to start paying council tax on that plot So that's why you don't like plots hanging around and make it rhythm. It's a percentage It's not full chance. That's how we have to start paying for each plot because we should have a help around it Oh, what's it called? loaton It's your councilman checking out which plots we're ready so we could start charging in for the council tax Derek I hate losing town. I won't fit in windows and doors sometimes our windows won't turn up until after lunch I hate sitting on But Derek I used to it I did conservatories for 14 years and I know exactly what you mean It's awful, especially if somebody has his fault Martin what has happened to earthquake boy you appear to have gone quietly lately? Well, that's what happened when you get pinned and then crucified in the comments Mr. Blue Devil, thank you for your answer guys with the videos so that one the sun can shed for a little bit claustrophobic What's the tightest space you've worked in? That extension with no door On the Ludlow Yeah, number four Yeah, that was a tight one. It was only 900 Yeah, we just feel him to put a little bit of What was it like a dryer or something tumble dry it? Washer tumble dryer on one end and then coats the other so it was very tight very tight Smallest extension I've ever done. It's probably in the car in the playlist somewhere apart from earthquake boys. How many trolls do you have on me?  We were actually threatening us Um, which starts to get a bit serious when it gets to that Um, they seem to have fizzled out where I did but I did I did report them But you get them coming and going there's a there's another one there. Um He's always he keeps changing his channel name. He's always something to do with Liverpool And he's always horrible at Alex. He's just horrible Just wasted space He's not been off for a while. Um I got told off by somebody for posting a picture of us with um Blackfield Place beach but lanyards on said he said he thought we'd been hacked It's a bit weird That was the um the post for this a line, I think Um, what's the first come and go? What's the furthest you travel for work? Um, West Orton No further even then There's actually somebody on the same street who's asked for Uh, they've got in contact and they want to start a look at the job. So we'll see how tomorrow goes Um, how do you how do you install a roof wall plate to the building? Um, yeah, you just get it to the right height and you bet it on We bet it's a length. We bet it we because it's like bed it on so it's um level and then the joiners do the rest They've got the roof on actually physically for a mechanical fixing down on Wall plate straps Because just bedding on a bit of motor does nothing all that all the motor is for Is to actually level it because the the journey like that all like that So the motor bed does nothing apart from level it it doesn't stick it Uh, do you guys j d days Sorry, I can't pronounce that sorry j. Do you have any further some issues while working or do you get along well as it looks in the videos? Well, that's just a lot of editing I'm gonna fine. I think we're gonna all right. Yeah. Yeah I would like to wait with anybody else That's a good answer Give me the turn later Derek I'm too too cool. It's great having a brickie and a plaster on a window on a window grill. Yeah Robin, I'll be working now. They're doing their own plaster bit of patching um Patching the reveals on the door they put in And the door we break it up which is just a straight panel. So they've dry lined it today Then they're going to come back and skim it and then there's a bit of rendering to do with a bit of tirling on the outside Because rendering putting new windows in is a pain A lot of extra work Mark said he's routine remember that small extension You were never thought you would never get out because there's no door Tell you what mark won't get out of me now. I can barely get out of bed This hip is playing me up big time And speaking of the robbies, mark wants to know where they are Ah, right as I said I used to work at a place called cross conservatories for 14 years and um One of the lads called robby Robby senior Was one of the wonder fitters And he worked with his son Robby junior. So that's why I called him the robbies because they both called Robby and we left I left across the conservatories back in 2010 to go on site Which is still better than the conservatories and then Robby and Robby left a bit quite a few years after me, but they've gone on their own as well So they did They called Robertson home improvements. So they do A bit of everything really extensions pretty much every extension we do now is either with Robby and Robby or Neil from Ormsburg And Yeah, the um, that's who they are and they live and they live really close to us Great to work with Even Richard Hewitt and Chester Nessler, when did you start the channel? April 2018 Banzai pinball says hello I'm Richard I've just been building careers life It was a bit late now I'm 53. My sister had it. I had it as a 50. My dad's had is I think he's had two So it's in the family Um, it's not bad enough for that yet, but the only I've been waiting about 10 weeks just for an x-ray. So We'll take you from there, I suppose I just limp a lot Oh, are you even like that? I limp a lot and then I do a whimper a lot as well when I catch it funny You knock your leg sideways. Jesus Christ It's a squeal and it jumps out of his skin It definitely says you look young Oh, thank you. Well, I'm not.  Yeah, I like Chesley All right guys, what do you think of things like the brickie? Has made fully around his projects? What do you prove the things that? Like that, what do you think he creates if she's even by practices? What's the working? It's that pink red piece of plastic but then Rodin We check out rodin's channel actually rodin did a video Where him and Holly actually used it and reviewed it until did an honest review on it what you thought about it and then Longer than the shortest if you don't watch the video, I think it ends up in the bin I mean, there's the stuff to show you on the ads what they can build with it or what they have built with it. It's just It's it's like it's like there's magic washing power that gets everything out. It's I don't rate it myself. I've never used it I wouldn't recommend it either Derek says I have to kind of come and go as painful Yes, Derek room forwards this morning rodin forwards is the same he could barely move He's in a lot of pain Sarah gets his mummy daughter because she's a She has a desk job, so a lot of sitting at the desk doesn't help It's the bleed out of the window above my front door is blown and is cracked The water all the way up and still on the upstairs window. Yeah, that's right. I've got a classic lintel.  It doesn't go back So you just got to point it But don't just point it and expect it to be fixed. He's got like this job. We drive past in the morning, isn't it? And it must be a 12 foot Sigs are going up the wall and about a fourth one on the other side and there's a scaffold up And they've pointed it and they've just left they haven't done the lintel so Let's get a current again in here It was listed even more Richard says watch that video rodin's I believe Yes Derek thanks for chatting with the energy and look forward to seeing you guys on site What's that? Derek says uh, thanks for chatting live our energy and you look forward to seeing us on site We're not like this when we're on site. Trust me. Yeah, you probably turn the other way Well, they won't see us on site. Basically Things will be desperate really desperate for us to go back on site make mccomic 53th and 43 now keep going while you can. Yes. Keep going while I have to keep going It's not by choice I don't even know so the video I was going to say to watch the video. Yeah, but it was a good day Bring the organized by tell me It was like, um, there's a lot of things Would be done differently next time. I'm pretty sure it's happening next year because you're getting more sponsorship on board But it went really well. It was a good day. We're in the good laugh It was nice to see everybody We've got to actually meet a lot of people who watched on youtube. It was really good And viewers as well met a lot of viewers who came up to see us as well. That's good. Yeah, Alex. Do I enjoy bricklaying? carefully answers Yeah, of course I really like it We don't do a lot of it particularly on this like we've been demolishing for three days Oh, yeah, it's been very scarce lately, but yeah, I do. I enjoy enjoying my job Customer said to me do you ever get bored with bricklaying? I said, well not really because I was breaking up a door at the time No, it was Robbie asked me if I get bored I said no because we don't do brickwork all the time. So it's nice to get a nice bit of brickwork in Robert and business when you worked on the site during the foundations, we directly employed We're subbing to the main contractor. We were subbing. We worked for a ground workers company We subbied to a subbie. Yeah so, um We worked for Hanley groundworks and Hanley groundworks subbied to Wayne Homes Uh, any big projects coming up that we should look out for? Um, look out for every project every Monday half past eight Yeah, we've got two extensions coming up Um I've got a big point in your comment because me is coming back in on 26th October. So you'll be off so I've What's the word? Scheduled in this point in job while I like survey because he's he's not into the point, you know He's gonna have to do eventually but He's actually quite good at it since you went to A&A we're actually a lot of weatherstruck pointing we actually It was finished in weatherstruck wasn't it first day of doing the pointing job. I cried Yeah, but that wasn't the point in wasn't it? That was the We had a crap PQA and it was very dusty And her pack coding really says hi Hi Pat. Mr. Blue Devil both front door and upstairs windows are going to be replaced I know now but we pause due to your channel. I can tell them Brookie's heart's done Exactly you can keep an eye on whether it's done right now I watched your video on site work just clearing the flooded foundations before you start yikes. Do you know what Derek? Um I keep getting pestered all the time by youtube to do youtube shorts Put the chain and I always really loved them But now they've changed it where you can actually put a clip of one of your own videos up And it plays up to 60 seconds of that video And then you've got the people watching the shorts watch that but it also gives you a box and you can click on the box It takes you directly to the full link video So I've already done one That did really well So i'm going to start doing that with one of our older videos So you can pick out a good part of the video and get people to click on it So um, I might do a few of the foundations just to show some of the shit we used to put it with Um It was grim. Absolutely grim. Pushing water out Gaining it all out and then if it rained again pour down here and just fill back up again. It's just soul destroying Yep Great videos. Do you ever work on larger sites like your housing estate? So just smaller jobs just smaller jobs now ejecting Site work we did 10 years of I did seven years in foundations Alice did three with me Then we left that and went on to superstructures for 12 months and got treated like absolute shite so We uh, we left that so we've been on our own for 14 15 months now, isn't it? Yeah, which is tough. I'm finding it really tough because You've got to find the work.  I'm not Apart from setting the neighbors I'm once I'm all suited up and everything I don't mind. I just I just so now put my headphones on and just kept just crack on and then I usually just all the grinding Once so it's all done and then I've just got all pointed to then Yeah, I quite enjoy it. It's just I know it's dusty and that but As long as you got a good people here and that's about it must be getting old and I'm getting more patients in my old age Derek says yeah big time. I think that's for the showbots And Mike Mike look forward to your videos every week tasty workers always keep up good work. Well, thank you Mike Mike I like that. I like the description of our videos there Derek I also fitted floors and heated site work you turn up in the house Still before workers and we're supposed to be fitting a floor. Yeah, you're always up against something. I was like Generally, if you're fitting the floor then you're around cml time and cml time is just madness because that's that's what cml is a certificate of mortgage lenders and basically that's when The um, whoever's lending the money to the the buyer Sends the house up. It's signed up by the the builder and the nhbc and then that's when the The money gets sent over to the house builder and that's that is Detail isn't it? That's everything revolves around that. Yeah, even if you're not ready. It's got to be done for cml day And it's just bonkers So everything's getting rushed everyone's on top of each other and generally You've got someone sand sanding downstairs and painting upstairs. It's just madness Putting fences up turfing all at the same time Mark who guys i'm installing raised floor beds at three blocks high. What thickness for saying would you put in rebar or not? Nothing you need rebar for a flower. Don't say that martins in the chat Martin will go off his head rebar rebar. He's like he's like um speedy Gonzales rebar rebar Well, I shouldn't think you need it for a flower. Some of the other folks would get that no not for not for a plant is three high I just go 100 mil whatever Um, if you always 100 mil thick just go for 300 mil wide. So you've got a good spread and 100 mil thick No need for steel Don't tell martin i said that Yes, right What a bit of a shock. We're not a shock It was a shock. It wasn't because obviously all the family bombed up there And then in the announcement. So I think she'd already died by then before that this afternoon 419 brian. Yes mark heifer's brilliant. Yes. Yes, many many talents mark He still hasn't used our brick tongues that we bought off us. He must have had them nearly two years isn't using yet Do we ever do underpinning asked my never done it? We could do it. I mean, we've said it don't work when we work for A&E. They just don't depend the building you're on What was that? That's not the rubber band Oh Yeah, they uh, there's a big some big steels going in. So they they actually underpinned it. They did that but um Tony overengineers everything and it's Of course you can put it into the four stores and top of that house. I don't even depend on Even if you don't need to do it Richard I noticed the sub base The sub base up to floor level can be done once you brick up to that course there There are also two dpms used what what one goes on to the dpc And most people say the boat should You come up you come under your installation and up and over and then over your installation and up and over But I tend to just cut the bottom one off at dpc and lap the top one over because And dpn when it's folded It gets folds in it and it's hard to Fold and bend and if you have too much in it, you can't get your block down Especially using thermolets, you can't get the weight down to get the first course down Try to get your layers minimum Brick and block solutions, is there much money in mental jobs? Would you not get more money on site work or one off houses? I'd rather do lintels all day long every day than work on site again And we're getting that underpaid anyway on site. We'll get paid a lot better for lintels That's what we charge. So the brick layers we always charge very they're given very little The thing we wait for is that rates are crap absolutely crap and it was hard to earn that one as well And then the one off houses we've actually been asked to build a house early next year Not interested Not for me. Not for you. Is it no it's you think of it seems like a good idea, but the amount of things that See I get stressed and I can do without the stress of building a house lintels It's like we know what we need We know how much we need of everything it's just turn up and get it done We know what nine times out of ten we know what's gonna happen um I think the worst you get is Loads of crap in the cabinet isn't it really? Yeah and then it's it's um Because we do a lot it's easy to do the job properly whereas you see a lot of a lot of people do lintels and My pet hates they like to take two courses out Whereas you need at least three to get your cabbage tray up and over into onto the inside again. So You're taking 20 bricks out just taking up to 10 bricks out 10 bricks out almost 10 bricks was taken to do We did one then They put leg cavity trays in it's just one coat out put this leg cavity tray and when you push it in They destroyed the um the cabbage tray underneath it and it just made a right mess Instead of just taking extra bit out I learned that the other way Matt says cheers bro and he's used them tongues once in two years Oh, they like crap No, he doesn't do any brickwork does he? Massive stone extension and he does a lot of um, he's he's the old man now. He's a lot of wood. Yeah Derek steed as an apprentice was it rough many dickhead bosses or crews? I had as an apprentice had one boss um small firm boss and his two sons And he was hard to work for but he was a fantastic bricklayer and he also made it made you Do a bit of fence and work with the classrooms. So You got to know a bit of everything Um, you didn't feel like at the time if that's just like I was you was horrible, but um I learned a lot from him and in fact Alex has met him Yeah A couple of weeks back and he's 80 and he's still bricklaying and he's still he says to me. I'm still faster than you Can't do it. He doesn't look at us. No, but yeah, um um I've not had a lot of idiot bosses I've had one when I once had left there The um, I worked for a little firm and the boss there He's like her own position flat cap and if he does anything on me, he's sweating with it with his hat And then we never got on and we didn't last long there. He got rid of me eventually, but um Just because I was like Young bricklayer he stuck in his ways. So they're like got him one job got me profiles out of the money So you can put them effing things back in the van right now So I was like, okay, so just let me use them. So just stuck in the stuck in his ways We're trying to do different new True dog. How long does it take you to build a five by three meter Rear single story kitchen down anywhere. That's a very specific. Do you want one doing or something? Um, so a five by three extension Couldn't have got a clue. Look at the one we just done with it up the floor on the extra 60 dpc You can't you just average about a week. Yeah From from from digging to finish The brickwork was an extra day. Oh, yeah, so we just can't guess it Without having the drawings to actually work it out Derek. It's good. You know your stress levels I don't tolerate stress well, but I'd push myself too far I get way too stressed way too stressed And then having high cholesterol is not a not really a good mix I'm spreading high blood pressure The blood pressure is okay, but the cholesterol is not good Um, I have lost a stone since February Robert, I like doing pointing jobs. Like you said, you can just zone out very little tools and nobody wants to come near you Because you're dusty Exactly That's It's like an I always say it's like having a rest If you just you get you just sit there and just like say just zone out It's quite it's quite therapeutic Chesslin, we use concrete lentils in SA South Africa and it's much better We use concrete lentils, but not in the face. So concrete lentils are always hidden away internal skins underground and Oh my god She's got the iPad out. Someone's poked the bear Um 80 great genetics at what level do you start your brick ties at and If you put wall insulation below DPC, what supports it? Well, you start your brick your ties on down course And then you do a bit closer than usual than your insulation sits on that And I've not heard it asked for for a long time with his deep insulation dips below um DPC, I think That I think that's why they put the cold bridges stripping now instead of that So we put the 25-year-old strip around the inside skin of the internal wall to stop any cold bridging Um, it's not it's not really good ideas, but the um Fabulous insulation below DPC, so it's always wet then Tower starts at DPC to To secure insulation the insulation we use any of the fiberglass full full. That's how it starts Alan, so now what's your current lead time on jobs guys schedule for next year looking like Nothing scheduled for next year. I don't know what the schedule for next week looks like I don't to be honest. It's a bit. Um, like I say, it's I'm struggling with organizing things And then it's going to get even worse soon with the weather I mean We went through a spell where We went out and worked in me for about two and a half weeks and that was when it was really dry all the time beginning of the um The heat way we had no work for two and a half weeks various people had us down Didn't get back to us things didn't work out and then the extension that we did The massive bifold doors and the cats Then I completely boiled the floor up got the levels wrong Um when the patio doors came out, there was a squeed in the house So we were 45 no, that was Hmm Charles 45 no, no, yeah, so um That cost us a day and a half labor and probably about 150 quid in materials and we had to Screw it. That took two days. Yeah, and the the floor was um some fancy one that gets it's like binding tiles It's glued down. It's like two millimetre Tolerance in it So it had to be absolutely bang off as if it wasn't hard enough So I probably worked last three days on that job for nothing. It was a lovely job But I actually never cost me a fortune. So I'm a bit Reluctant with the bigger job now like It's not not my confidence a lot That's why I like the linkies and stuff Just simple small jobs and then when Alex was away I did in Three garden walls loved it just garden walls. No pressure I did a great radius one and two straight ones and that was great to really enjoy that How's Stuart? How's Stuart? Little one asleep I take it Mom says it's been 18 weight day 18 day wait for the picture to go on Christine bought a picture and I still haven't put it up on the wall Mally's putting connect they've corrected themselves. I want to put out they put it have catnip plinthals been phased out Um catnip is just a brand name and catnips are still about oh, yeah, this is all everyone we used them at the A&E job Yes, um, let me just show you this talking about the little one This is our eating a spaghetti ball nice tonight Oh a little bit And she still says Alex I see you want to sleep I've been working out tonight. So I'm a bit knackered. Yeah, don't put yikes to the floor Mark Alex my son starts prickling at college next week He's not happy because he has to redo his maths and English again. Did you manage to pass them? Or did you have to retake them? I passed them. Yeah, I passed. I got a I think I've got a B in both. Yeah, I think I did anyway I can't remember what what good does it do me see that that helped him mark because Because the other lads are doing the maths and English Then while they were doing that Paul yeah Paul took him to one side. He's got like extra time, which is a big help for us Mom says she'll have a picture Give me the one picture Now the story behind the picture is the house in the background looks like Christine's auntie Deceased auntie Chrissy The house looks like her. No, it looks like a house her house which is on a croft in on the Isle of Lewis And now to everybody's so she wants to put that up in the mind of her auntie Chrissy So I'll put that up tomorrow Could be up and coming home like half past six seven o'clock for the last three days Stuart said they took both of them to get her down Had to fight her to sleep to get some chloroform and I've been a rat. Yeah Robert one of the favorite jobs garden walls it seems like everybody over COVID drove into the corners That's easy said jobs fixing not fixing knockdown walls. Yeah, we fixed two Two walls recently Well, I fixed one you are and you've added a pillar Yes, one was knocked down by a customer. I thought you meant the one we did with the skip man and knocked it over Oh, no, not that one. It should have been flattened, but we repaired it Yeah, the local skip firm I get the nut I get the nod when they when they knock the ball over the skip So I do quite a few repairs like that But um the two One garden wall was a radius on it. We did the drive the whole drive. We took the concrete up All the tarmac leveled it put eight or three actual drains in Edgings and then I put this radius wall in and then She can just have a tarmac of what baby. It's just ready to go. It's just hard-cold up But that was a great job that and then the other two Customer knocked those down and I built it and the other one I knocked I knocked it down and rebuilt it And actually all um two day jobs Local as well. Damien Richardson keep up the good work. Thank you. Here's Damien Brick and block get island insulation is always below DPC. I don't see the point in it No, it's not it's not keeping anyone warm down there. Is it? Well, no, you've got insulation in new floor You've got your cold bridges. So what's the point of putting the insulation down the carpet? I don't know not not down below DPC Yeah And Stuart escalated quickly now because I said get caught from DPC Cheslin, yeah, I'll tell Christine Cheslin makes your picture. Oh, she's soon. All right Um Max, but nice one.  Yeah, especially to especially work for you mark the stuff you do Yeah Marks who fit in adapters to the grinder to vacuum up the dust See that you can do that but I mean The grinders aren't enough to handle without a hose being attached to something and moving stuff around and It's hard if I'm in a wire attached to it because I ain't got a cordless Dylan Jones using joints ideally Richard my DPC level from my back to front of the house is 35mm out. What the hell And now you can increase your bed one end and crash Down the other to make the cons level that does but to each corner won't be level. What do I do? Um The most whole thing can get it built back properly. It's not much you can do really It's a house house 35mm that's not a lot to get from front to back if you You pick up two mil on your front and You don't even have to crash down too much You can pick up 35mm in no time You'd have to be too noticeable And you take if you're trying to you pick up like two or three mil right at the bottom With it, so you don't have bigger beds at the bottom. You won't notice that as long as you're Level at high level. I always say it's got to be right where people are walking past and you can see at high level below high levels isn't it as bad Brickham works, do you think doing just lintels and small stuff at all that hold Alex Alex from learning the trade more? I'm not really not learning the essentials and then I went to bloody learning to move Amy Learned a lot there. I learned a lot there. Three years on supers and three years in foundation. So There's a good few months doing a very big super extension with all fancy stuff. Yeah What have you Possibly get the extensions as well. Yeah We do everything we need to in like the very common field And Robert's got one of those adapters to return the lentils down. We wouldn't have much work The lentils keep us going. Oh, yeah one road We've done 14 houses on that road and I'm going to see in a fit the number number 30, which is our 15th house on that street And what's the biggest length seal you've got to put in any What's the biggest length steal you've put in? And any where the peers goalposts Wasn't it that three meter one? No 3.6 today Well, like 11 meters 11 foot That's that was the angle iron 11 foot angle iron. Yeah, that's still only 3.3 I think the biggest steels were done with Amy when we're doing the roof Yeah, but that didn't count because that's They were pretty organized. There's more banded on the site. We had Steel lifters, we had the tube deck It was perfectly set up. So you wouldn't you didn't even notice you're doing the steels to be honest. It was so easy, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, absolute doggie Chancellor has to be like cordless tools. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we do Especially when that's dropped a brick on one And the other reciprocal right in the middle And then was the next day of the day after the day after that the day after that I was grinding above and just How nice to get the cable and just grow up straight through the cable to grind Luckily, yeah, you had a good circuit breaker. Yeah, just sort of big poof. Yeah And the um, the recipe saw we got a new cable 56 for a new cable thing So I did the grinding myself because I cut it quite close to the grinder. We still got a cable Woody says hi guys. Oh, it was good to see you work Thank you Woody. Mike Boyd asks what's our favorite tool with crisps? I have watches every day Gamewalkers I do like a good cheese doggie though We need more helps as Chesley Well, we get help from the robbies with steels when they're there. Yeah I learned on extensions in private jobs and I've always preferred it like getting my brain thinking rather than running Into a line all day every day Yeah Do you have this thing to work in overtime? Is it? What's your preferred major cutting blade? I use husks, but they seem to dull in no time What's the name of the one that you that you get we get one from tool station Marquist No, it seems to last a very long time. We've got one in We've got we've got one on the electric ground of the 230 9-inch one And when we got the still saw I just went straight to screw fix and bought us bought the same blade 300 mil And it cuts the wrapping just make I think you had in like what was it like four years? You've had two. Yeah On the right spin to 50 quid about 50 quid. Yeah, I think that's 60 for the Still saw blade 35 40 that's more. Yeah. Yeah, but it's like got a big segment on it And they don't wear an old purpose to cut steel and concrete reinforce concrete But we also have I need to come get it really we've been sent an evolution Cutting so which is 300 mil disc But it has water suppression. It's 240 volt would have water suppression And then it's fantastic because it's the wash is smaller. So it'll cut to 150 millimeter So we're still so just get to your hundred The evolution goes straight through and we need to do a video for that because We've got to do a view for it and they're doing a Discount code for it. So I think you get 5% off of you if you use our discount code So we need to get that organized But if you do happen to go on the website and have a look if you just type in capital letters bricklay That's the discount code if you fancy one can't delete one's message Why would she put you need to play a hammer for the air picture? Um apart from Rosie, do you ever need the brickies on youtube that you follow and you're watching? Maybe a few don't we got loads too many just loads loads Too many because I should be editing and not watching other videos Sheffan's what time is it actually being an hour? Is it? Mm-hmm Half eight Well, I stayed in the UK. What time is it itself up again? What's the time difference? It's almost time to wrap up They'll be ahead of us won't they? Really? Yeah, because they're further over than Sweden Oh, yeah Sean, hi guys, 50 year old painter and decorator who commented on your instagram posts a few few weeks ago about me going back to college Train was a brickie and like, you know To tell you know, I started this Monday very nice Congratulations and a good luck. I hope it goes well for you mate Dylan asks how long does it take to edit a video usually? Does the editing part? Just the editing part probably Probably between one and two hours depends on the video. It's the uploading and Yeah, because you've got to edit it Then you've got to put all the um transitions in the end and the beginning And then you've got to put music on it and then you've got to upload it through a hard drive And then you've got to upload it from your hard drive to YouTube And it all just takes time Half nine uh in South Africa Is that all? Just an hour ahead? I suppose They're probably the same of what it's it's not half far down. You have to have far far over your eyes Yeah Well Are you keeping it? Yeah I think that's open, isn't it? Sure, I was watching your videos and channel that gave me the push to do it. Oh, that's good That's great to bring people into the trade Yeah, because we just did a hybrid video first and it got a bit serious so The YouTube, not the Brooklyn, Brooklyn was a series Yeah, not the YouTube It's nice when people say that they're actually helping people Do you ever get jobs booked in and think this will make a good video? Absolutely Yes They all make a video. Some make some are better than others Well done, Sean says them all See, I think the demolition ones make good videos because it's a bricklaying channel They don't do as well as the bricklaying video But it's all part of bricklaying. I suppose we should have called ourselves building Steven and Alex because We'd then have to do a lot of everything But then we'd probably get the 20.1 copywriters before he invites us over Yeah Yeah But right Yeah, good night guys. See you all soon Thanks Richard Thanks Chesley Chesley And so Richard And Chesley And Molly Time to go and put my boss messed up on watching the next things Yeah, I know the feeling, Molly The boss messes up too Let's get Mum's coffee Right, we'll see you all soon Thank you everybody for watching And it'll be Monday, 8.30 Oh yeah Don't know what it is yet, but we'll find out and let you know Yes, you know Coming to see Oh no You can have them to yourself now on here We're just we're just wrapping up I'll see you in a minute Yeah, see you later everybody See you later everybody Thanks for joining us


Hi everybody, we're back. It's day three here at Dell Storage Forum. We're in Boston and we're live. This is theCUBE, SiliconANGLE.tv's production of Dell Storage Forum 12. And I'm here with my co-host, Stu Miniman. I'm Dave Vellante at Wikibon.org. This is day three for us. This is the second year we've done the Dell Storage Forum and we've been witnessing the transformation of Dell from essentially a box maker into a company that owns its own intellectual property. It has put a major emphasis on storage and data center and including servers and storage and networking. We've heard from all three of those groups today or this week and we'll hear more from customers and other experts today. Some news, Stu, on Dell. Dell announced this morning in a conference call that Michael Dell had with analysts, Wall Street analysts, that the company's going to pay a dividend. And stock's actually up pre-market on that news. We've got the open now, so I don't know what the current price is, but it was up earlier this morning. And so Michael Dell told the analysts that they're going to increasingly, first thing he said is we're going to cut $2 billion of costs over the next three years and we're going to focus increasingly, he said, on the data center. With a particular emphasis on gear, hardware, storage, networking, and servers and a secondary focus on software and services. And as I say, they also announced a dividend of 32 cents a share and the closing price yesterday was just under 12 bucks. Yeah, Dave, it's interesting. At breakfast this morning I was talking to a Dell customer and a Dell partner and they were disappointed with Wall Street. They said Dell's really kind of turned themselves around. They're more profitable. They're growing and we were talking about the dividend and said, when are they going to get a little bump on that? So, you know, if they've got good growth potential, as you've pointed out, all these products that they're adding in the data center have better margins than they had in the PC and server era. Yeah, so the stock's up almost 4% today on that news. You know, Dell's obviously an interesting company. You know, a lot of Wall Street, I think Wall Street analysts don't understand the company. Frankly, they see Dell as a box seller with an aim on the box. And while that is true for much of the company's business, I'd say a couple of things. One is Dell always differentiated with the supply chain and its distribution channel. It's an ability to have a customer experience that differentiated it from the competition. Now, of course, I understand why the street is paying less attention to that in the post PC era, but Dell is transforming into a company that owns a lot of its own IP. Stu, the company's a $60 billion company and its valuation is around, just hovers over $20 billion. And it's got $14 billion of cash in the bank. So in theory, Dell could buy back the remaining shares outstanding and essentially own the entire company. So it's got, you know, I think a lot of upside from that standpoint, the stock, you know, if they do aggressive buybacks, the stock could go up, I mean, I'd say $14 billion in cash, you know, net out the cash, they're talking about $6 billion in value for a $60 billion company. You know, personally, I think that's undervalued to the extent that Dell can continue its transformation. So Dave, the other thing, we had Carter George's keynote this morning and we've kicked off our broadcast on day one with Carter. And what he talked to us about is Dell really creating that storage personality. So really an interesting way as to how Dell does acquisitions. They don't just acquire them and try to grow them, but they're putting together those building blocks, understanding those software components that weave together the entire solution. And really, you know, Dell's got a compelling message. They're hitting all the notes that we expect. They've got, you know, a flash message that they went into a little bit of depth on. You know, obviously on the server side, Dell's been doing flash for a number of years, but from the storage side, starting to see that bridge to the server and the storage together, what they're calling project termies. And the new term they came up to was their NVM, their nonvolatile memory, where they can create a shared global coherent cash between the servers. And this is based off of the RNA networks acquisition that they made just a year ago. And if you look at it, Carter said, you can even take a single server and you could just full that up with flash and that could be really an appliance then that could serve up flash, you know, at the server to a number of other servers. So what's happening here is we're seeing a total evolution of the IO hierarchy and IO design. 20 years ago, all the action was at the server. And really the server vendors were largely in control. The server was the single point of control. Function over the last 20 years has migrated away from the host to the other side of the channel out to the disk array. Why? For practical reasons of being able to share data, being able to protect data, things like snapshots, things like replication and other capabilities that we've seen go out to the array and then the array became the single point of control for all those functions. And there's of course a lot of processing power in the array as you well know, Stu. And so now we're seeing with the advent of flash and the difference is that flash is a persistent media, right? I mean, you've got to have a persistent media and that media has been spinning disk for, you know, 50 years. Now we have this advent of flash driven by the consumer electronics trend, really driven by Apple's choice to use flash in its iPods and then of course all its other consumer devices has really driven the cost of flash down. So the enterprise has done some very sort of unnatural acts to make flash enterprise ready and what that's done is it's allowed the price gap between memory, you know, non-volatile memory if you will, and spinning disk to compress. And now we're seeing a migration of function back to the other side of the channel and we're seeing that hierarchy of flash really get granular. It started with enterprise flash drives stuffed into arrays but of course the array controller became the bottleneck and so they've seen people put PCIe cards, you know, directly on the server, you're seeing Fusion IO do things like atomic rights directly to its product and then EMC comes out with VF cash. Now Dell has an opportunity according to Nick Allen yesterday to leapfrog that whole vision of what EMC put forth as VF cash. So Stu the interesting thing to me is you're seeing the whales not wait. They're all jumping in, I say all, well particular now we've seen EMC make moves. We certainly heard IBM last week talk about its Bluehawk which is a thunder like product and now Dell using its RNA virtualized memory technology combined with flash to really put forth the vision of a shared global cash coherent capability that it wants to integrate across all of its products. Yeah, Dave, absolutely. And another area we've seen a strong focus on and talked about the keynote, Appassure CTO came on and talked about how they're really able to use the snapshotting technology to have both a crash and application consistency and that's going to extend to the flash cash. So whether you have the storage in the server or whether you have it down in the storage array they're going to have that application awareness and be able to recover. As they kind of joked and they said that the joke's always been backup's easy, recovery's hard. Now Dell's looking to make recovery simple. Well, as my friend Fred Moore would say backup is one thing, recovery is everything. All right, so we're seeing Dell really try to push the integration. Integration is non-trivial, Stu, as you know. Used to work at EMC and I always felt that in watching EMC integration sometimes got put on the back burner in favor of execution of the individual portfolio products you're seeing a totally different message from Dell where integration is front and center. At the same time, again, it's not trivial to do that integration, it takes a long time. We heard yesterday that it's going to take another year for Dell to get block-based compression from Ocarina into the ecologic and compelling arrays. I took IBM two years to do that with store-wise so it clearly is not a trivial exercise, but so we're going to be talking about all this stuff today. We got another full day. Keep it right there, we have Randy Kearns coming up next. Randy is a senior strategist at the Evaluator Group. The Evaluator Group, for those of you who don't know, is a Colorado-based consultancy. They do a lot of both technical research and business research, one of the sharpest consultancies around Randy is a real expert in storage, been around the business for a long time. We're going to get his perspective, so keep it right there. We'll be right back, live. This is theCUBE from Dell Storage Forum in Boston. Keep it right there.


so are you a vegan or what turned you on to the vegan diet 15 years ago I found out about the process by which animal products come to my plate and I decided I was not comfortable with that and didn't do it overnight but I I know I know it's fine okay and yeah I decided that that wasn't for me and I've been vegan since so it was mainly how they were treating conventionally raised animals like the like the pork the beef and the chicken yes and I mean it's not like I would eat any animal it's not like I would eat I would go to China and dogs or cats either yeah it's not something I would do myself so I wasn't comfortable with paying somebody else to do it for me so is it I mean it's a combination of how the animals are being treated as well as you know the act of killing the animal itself yes it's both but neither neither one is something I would do myself so I can't really justify paying a company to do for me so so you're so when you go in the supermarket and you see that meat you know a lot of people are detached from the reality of what goes into producing that product and that just that just really spoke to you yes absolutely so when you you know you convert it to the vegan diet you know mainly for that that reason I mean did you consider any other aspects from you know the nutritional drawbacks of a vegan diet or possibly the environmental aspects of it as well yeah I mean I've done a lot of my own homework I'm skeptical of anybody if anybody has a case for any dogma I should believe I always ask questions and I was sufficiently convinced of the benefits of a vegan diet if you think that there is evidence that I'm ignoring or missing then feel free to try to convince me but I've done a lot of my own research it wasn't something I did blindly so you looked into you know contrary aspects of those points like you know the animals the environment the nutritional aspects yes I did I mean I mean you know and the nutrition is something very difficult to understand because I mean just about everyone whether they're vegan or not you know there's a lot of health issues related to nutrition in this country in general so so to say that a vegan diet you know I mean there are arguably vegans that are healthier than standard American dieters because of how poor the diet is but you know there are specific nutrients that people do need to be concerned about on a vegan diet do you think the importance of you know proper supplementation and being aware of those things is a little bit understated I mean as far as I know there's only one nutrients that well okay as with any diet you need to think about the nutrients are getting it doesn't matter if you're vegan or not right I mean I see it sounds like you agree with that so it's important to be aware of what you're getting and where you're getting it from as far as and I mean I'm not gonna argue that there's that every vegan is healthy I mean you can eat potato chips and ice cream every day and be a vegan so it really has to do with paying attention to what nutrients are getting and where you're getting them from and as far as I know it's really only be 12 that vegans have a tendency to lack in their diet unless they're a potato chip vegan you know I mean people go on and on about protein mostly because people are very uneducated about protein but I don't supplement personally I do sometimes eat foods that are fortified with certain nutrients but as far as I know and as far as the things I've read a vegan diet has all the essential nutrients except for be 12 so I mean do you think that understanding all these nutritional aspects are of a vegan diet are too much for someone to undertake that doesn't have a lot of a lot of hours researching you know like hundreds to thousands of hours researching this topic no I don't believe you need to be a nutritionist to learn about nutrition so so you think the vegan diet is adequate in in all of the nutrients our body needs are you comfortable with listing those every single nutrient vitamins minerals elements and fatty acids not not every single one but you know the general important ones this is a good challenge I like it so what do we have we have a CDE K the B vitamins thymine riboflavin all the B vitamins all the B vitamins we have protein obviously we have carbs obviously which was yeah we have iron potassium you know selenium iodine magnesium copper zinc the point is there's a lot of shit there's there's a lot of stuff so you know when you go over the vitamins you know as you said a b c d e k you know you have the omega fatty acids e p a dha and the list of omega 3s and omega 6 is very complicated you have all the minerals the elements and and even I have a hard time listing those off the top of my head you know you have the electrolyte minerals like sodium calcium potassium as well as magnesium you have you know when you go into the elements you have copper zinc you have selenium you have iodine in the minerals we missed there's sulfur the point is there's there's a huge well yeah sodium in the electrolytes there's a huge amount of chloride you have fluoride you have you know there's too many elements minerals fatty acids vitamins everything to list and break down there's really is a lot to understand and and there's you know we're lacking kind of that understanding of those nutrients in general but you know vegans are inclined to believe they're getting all of those yet people understand American diet are deficient yes I mean it's very complicated so I mean and I don't want to go into this discussion and go too far down the list but you know we can start with vitamin a and I mean I'm assuming you know most vegans are led to believe that beta-carotene contained in plant foods converts to vitamin a yes because that's because beta-carotene can be labeled as vitamin a in plant foods but it's actually in the form of beta-carotene but here your body needs to convert it into vitamin a yes do you understand that conversion process no so and this is where things get foggy this is where there's a lack of studying on this in general so there are gene polymorphisms that cause some people not to not be able to convert beta-carotene into retinol vitamin a that occurs in about 35% of the population and then about 15% of the population is not able to convert carotene to retinol at all and then even if you are part of the population that can convert carotene to retinol there's an enzyme called the beta-carotene 1515 deoxygenase enzyme this enzyme cleaves beta-carotene it looks like two retinol molecules so it needs to turn their carotene into two retinol molecules which is what our body uses and this enzyme is inhibited by the flavonoids and the flavonoids that are typically contained in these in these vegetable foods but information like this that I'm talking to you about right now you know this took me hours and hours of studying and research to figure out and you know you can even look at tissue samples of you know people that consume high amounts of carotene containing foods and carotene gets thrown in the fat they don't get utilized by the body and and if we were to break down all of these processes for every single vitamin it's very complicated yes so I think we would both agree that in order for someone to have an understanding of nutrition it's above most people's heads yes do you know which two forms of vitamin b12 need to be consumed for vegans no I don't so aceno cobalamin and methyl cobalamin are the bioactive form of vitamin b12 those can be there are artificial supplements that are made for that and you know you can also obtain it from animal foods you know but when you know to go down the list or you can eat dirt I mean dirt might have a very minute amount of bacteria in it but that's not very much b12 the main issue is that when you look at blood levels of homocysteine and vegans homocysteine are free amino acids despite supplementing vitamin b12 vegans still have high levels of homocysteine and this homocysteine is is one of the leading causes of stroke it causes a lot of our oxidative stress in the arterial wall just in the body in general and despite supplementing b12 you know vegans still have high homocysteine levels so you know there's a lot of things that people in general are unaware of and and even if you know even modern people standard American dietors are deficient in vitamin b12 so when you restrict that even further I think people are so used to being unhealthy on a standard American diet that when they go to a vegan diet they don't really notice too much of a difference or they notice a slight improvement so so the nutritional aspect of veganism is very difficult to understand the environmental aspect is also something you can't really talk about off the top of your head because you know where are people getting these statistics from you know where is this understanding of carbon emissions coming from so I mean if you want to talk about that or would you rather talk about the moral or ethical aspect I don't have a preference man so on on the moral topic you know you have the aspect of you know the cows being treated very poorly in feedlots them being slaughtered you know to provide you with that steak but have you considered that you know conventional agriculture the growing of certain grains and soybeans you know the damage that does to the environment in the context of herbicides and pesticides and tilling you know making that choice of buying that meat that one animal that was slaughtered that provides a large amount of caloric nutrition versus those thousands to maybe even trillions of insects and smaller animals that suffer in conventional plant agriculture animals suffer in every form of industrial agriculture that we have manufactured I mean I don't know if you're laboring under the assumption that veganism is about perfection it's not it's about at least for me it's about doing the best I can and yeah I'm I'm well aware of this I've heard of this it doesn't it's it's not really it's I think it's kind of fallacious to say because we're doing some harm that that means that we should not strive to do the least harm you know just because just because we can't go a hundred percent and not ever harm an animal unless we kill ourselves that doesn't mean that we shouldn't do the best we can with what we have within the kind of society that you see around you it's hard to even take a step without hurting something you know because everything everything that we everything that we consume harms something that's along some point of the process most vegans I know are not under any illusion otherwise you know it's it's not really about purity it's about doing the least time that we can and yeah your point is valid but it's it's misleading to say that that causes more harm to animals than this does I mean the main issue I have with this is you don't you think that vegan should advocate more towards local even pasture raised animal foods as opposed to being just completely against animal foods in general well no because I mean first of all it's if we're going to say that we're against killing animals then obviously we're not going to advocate for that and you know you can agree or disagree with that I'm sorry I'm sorry just to clarify the I mean let's say you have three choices you can buy you know you can buy the plants in the supermarket and you know rodents and insects and animals were killed unknowingly unintentionally but it just had to happen because you're harvesting the plants or you could buy that conventional crap feed lot beef the animals are treated horribly injected kept alive with chemicals or you could go to a local farm buy an animal that had a happy life you know I mean there's there's three options there wouldn't you rather have people switch to you know more you know animals that were treated better as opposed to just vegan completely isn't that something more realistic something that's just as beneficial there's not only three options first of all I mean I'm saying those are the three options I think most people would have to take right sure but there's more than that I mean I I come from a place where you know community gardens are a thing like it's when you have this many people in the smallest space obviously that's unrealistic but so is animal agriculture you know I mean it's in the end for me a lot of it comes down to how do you feed this many people well it's hard because there's too many people and that's part of why everything we do does harm because there are so many of us that it's kind of unsustainable to feed everybody no matter how you do it but I mean going back to your point like yes there there are more than three choices and I like to see I like to see people eating food that was going to waste first of all and I whether it's vegan or not I mean I personally am not going to eat animal products because they probably make me sick at this point and also because there's ample plant food that is going to waste and I'd like to see more people growing their own food you know I come from a place in California where that's common so that would be option four that I would pick but in terms of your three options yeah I mean there's less or evils and it's it's difficult to pick I would say that what we're showing here is the greatest evil in turn just all around in terms of whether you care about animals or the planet whether you care about doing the least harm this is probably doing the most harm of any practice I mean we might even agree of that so it's really a choice between you know vegetables at Whole Foods or Farmer John and up in Red Hook right yeah I mean it's it's a tough choice I personally would go with the vegetables I know I'm like I said I'm under no illusions that this is doing no harm but Farmer John is not all that he's cracked up to be I mean even small farms take an environmental toll it's not just one cow you know it's well when you raise animals on grassland it's it's carbon positive it's beneficial for the environment how so grass see questers carbon so when cows emit carbon through their manure which goes back into the soil because the manure is being you know put onto the soil and then they whether they belts or fart whatever it is the grass absorbs that carbon back into the soil the problem is you know these feed-on operations are not sequestering carbon back into the soil I mean are you gonna say that we should go start shooting deer in the woods because they're farting in the woods no but we're not breeding those deer so you think because there was there would be more if there are more deer it'd be an issue there are a lot of deer and they overpopulate in many areas and it is an issue because we have killed off all their predators but if there were periods of time where the carbon emissions on this planet were drastically higher you know thousands and thousands of years ago with much larger animals much larger fauna why are we suddenly worried about animals living in their natural environment now which animals are you talking about any animals living in their natural environment I'm not I'm not sure I understand well whether it's a herd of bison roaming the fields I mean deer in the woods whatever animals you want to talk about is you know what's wrong with raising animals in the context of pasture and grasslands and carbon-positive farming that puts carbon back in the soil and is beneficial for the environment did you know that the only way to restore dirt desertification is to have animals roam through the fields and graze those lands where Alan Savry has a TED talk where he goes over how to reverse reverse desertification in desert climates and when animals go through those fields they leave manure and that manure fertilizes the soil when the rain comes the grasslands grow back so these animals these roaming herds of animals have always been part of nature's ecosystem right and this hasn't and us growing you know us bulldozing the Amazon to grow soybeans to feed the animals on feedlots isn't well yes I mean feedlots are the issue but why are vegans so why don't vegans ever promote pastured animals why don't they mention that they're much better alternatives to these animals that are being tortured it's Mr. Kiljoy one Paul said nobody it's Mr. Kiljoy one I need to go in a bit anyway but I mean I can answer your question wait what was your question I'm sorry it's a world of a difference it's a world of a difference we could also advocate that people grow their own food is there something negative in your mind about that does that create a bigger carbon footprint than having a pasture full of cows that you have to pee that you have to feed well when you when you get into this discussion that there's no real access to these plant foods that are grown locally and in large amounts certain things cannot be obtained you have a lot of a lot of the grains a lot of the high caloric vegan foods are not grown in these types of environments these local environments you might have some fruits and vegetables that are grown locally but you couldn't subsist off of that from a caloric standpoint whereas when you have these naturally natural quality animal foods you know fat meat organs the flesh of these animals is very high in calories and calorie density compared to plant foods you know that there are indigenous cultures who were plant-based every single indigenous culture obtained between 45 and 65 percent of their calories from animal foods averaging about 55 percent there were some indigenous groups that consumed less plant food less animal foods but the lowest in nature is about 40 percent what about the Choctaw Choctaw South American that there is no there is no indigenous group that has ever existed that has consumed less than maybe the pygmies in South America consume a very small percentage of their calories from animal foods but there has never been a group of people to that has not subsisted off of animal flesh let alone there's let alone solely dairy you could give them as much dairy as you want you could give them give them as much eggs as you want every single group of people has consumed the physical flesh of an animal or fish that's not true from what I've read at heart vegans may have good intentions but it's very clear there are misled on the nutrition environment as well as moral and ethical aspects of a vegan diet let's continue the promotion of high quality nutrient-dense animal foods


eet and delivering current levels of service. We know that not only are the franchise fleets in need but also those operated by the two local authorities in Orkney and Shetland. At the same time any strategic examination of ferries must also make credible estimate of the costs and advantages of fixed links. Colleagues will know that these fixed links can take a number of forms and could be part of a key transport network in the Northern Isles Willie Rennie highlighted. Where real benefit can be demonstrated which I believe in many cases it can be we should get on with the job of building sooner rather than later. We must be realistic about the needs of our ferry fleet going forward to be able to review and set out needs for the coming years and decades. That will take a level of honesty and commitment to funding and to the sort of contingencies that are essential in operations such as these. As we look forward to reducing carbon emissions where do our ferries stand in that question? The Scottish Government can hardly claim to have any role of leadership when we're buying up vessels from abroad, disposed of as a switch to renewable alternatives. Norway aims to have an entirely electric car ferry fleet by 2025. Where will Scotland stand at that point? We know that the Scottish Government's decision to buy the Northern Isles boats has put them even further away from their targets on reduced emission vessels. At the heart of these decisions must be the communities themselves. The future of routes of provision of resourcing should not be decisions taken in St Andrew's house or within Transport Scotland alone. It shouldn't be left up to ministers or officials who understandably communities have little confidence in. They should be made with a consultation and collaboration of people who defend on ferries. But that simply doesn't appear to be on the agenda of this Government, as highlighted by the local council where the western Isles still has no one on the board of CalMac, the very operator that provides vital lifeline services to those islands. Presiding Officer, there have been a number of notable contributions today. My college Graham Simpson highlighted that NASA designed and built rockets to go to the moon's sea of tranquility quicker than it has taken the SNP to build a replacement ferry to get to Tarbot. He also highlighted two figures relating to how much is needed to invest in our ferries fleet. Former Transport Minister Graham Day has reported and suggested that it would take 1.5 billion over 10 years, and our figure is an estimate of 1.4 billion. Edward Mountain noted that Scotland now needs to build two and a half ferries every single year for 10 years just to get back on track, but there is also an inherent issue with the Scottish shipbuilding or with contracts from Government. Y Yarddon Scotland, having the last few years alone delivered two aircraft carriers for the Royal Navy and are currently producing type 26 and type 31 frigates for the UK Government. Speaking about the ferries at Ferguson's Jamie Greene rightly highlighted that despite the endless failures, the delays, the cost increases, the people and communities let down. No one in this SNP Government has been held to account. My colleague Donald Cameron spoke passionately about the degradation of the service that the Western Isles have come to expect and its potential to further the problem of depopulation and the impact on school children on Iona of unrival ferry links with Obam. There has been a growing crisis in our ferry services for some time now. A programme of recovery will be one that stands with a strand of thought in things out, but as we have made clear, it will not be the only action that is needed. Again, we need a long-term strategic approach to ensure that these services remain sustainable, remain operational and can improve for the communities we serve. I hope that the minister and her colleagues have noted the many examples outlined today. I hope that the cabinet secretary recognises and accepts that this is not good enough now and that it is getting worse. Our constituents are watching. They are desperate for better from this Government. I hope that every MSP from across this chamber, every MSP who genuinely cares about the future of those communities reliant on ferries, will support our motion today. That concludes the debate on Scotland's ferries. It is now time to move on to the next item of business, which is consideration of business motion 3768, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the parliamentary bureau, on changes to tomorrow's business. Any member who wishes to speak against the motion should press their request-to-speak button now, and I call on George Adam to move the motion. Thank you minister. No member has asked to speak against the motion, therefore the question is that motion 3768 be agreed. Are we all agreed? The motion is therefore agreed. The next item of business is consideration of business motion 3746, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the parliamentary bureau, on setting out a business programme. Any member who wishes to speak against the motion should press their request-to-speak button now, and I call on George Adam to move the motion. Thank you minister. No member has asked to speak against the motion, therefore the question is that motion 3746 be agreed. Are we all agreed? The motion is therefore agreed. The next item of business is consideration of parliamentary bureau motion 3750, on approval of an SSI. I ask George Adam, on behalf of the parliamentary bureau, to move the motion. Thank you minister. I call on Willie Rennie. This instrument sees the Scottish Government raised disability benefits by just 3.1 per cent in lock step with the Department of Work and Pensions. That is 3 per cent behind the inflation figures announced this morning, and potentially 5 per cent behind the inflation figures experts are predicting. That is going to hit people directly in their pockets. People with disabilities often have equipment such as electric wheelchairs and mobility scooters that gobble up electricity with fuel prices soaring they face real hardship. This decision is going to push more people into poverty. We have called for the UK Government to lift disability benefits, but it is not good enough for the SNP and the Green Government to say that it has to move with the UK Government on that. People were promised a better system seven years ago. I argued for more powers for this Parliament. All parties supported the devolution of social security powers worth £4 billion. Only Scottish ministers continue to ask the DWP to run the system for them under their agency agreement, because the Scottish Government still is not ready. That is a failure on its part to use the full powers of devolution. It has left people with the DWP for years and years. The result of that is that people are at the sharp end of the cost of living crisis, seeing support drop potentially five points behind inflation. I am glad that the Scottish Government is lifting the number of devolved benefits by 6 per cent. I only wish that the Scottish and UK Governments were doing the same for the disability benefits that thousands rely on. For that reason, Scottish Liberal Democrats cannot vote for this SSI this evening. I am sure that Mr Rennie will welcome the launch of adult disability payment first pilot phase on Monday and appreciate the position as we launch the disability benefit after successfully launching a child disability benefit. We are also undertaking the transfer of those in Scotland who are receiving disability benefits from the UK Government Department for Work and Pensions into Social Security Scotland in a safe and secure way. Although that process is undertaken, we cannot create a two-tier system where individuals paid by Social Security Scotland are paid more than clients whose cases have not yet transferred to the Scottish system. That transfer will be undertaken as quickly but also as safely and securely as possible. The order under consideration today operates benefits for which we have executive competence but which are currently administered by the DWP under agency agreement on behalf of Scottish ministers as we undertake safe and secure transfer. Those include attendance allowance, disability living allowance, gearers allowance, industrial injuries scheme benefits, personal independence payment and severe disability allowance. We have no discretion around the level by which we increase those benefits. The agency agreements in place with the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, which allow DWP to deliver those benefits on behalf of Scottish ministers, mean that we are committed to operating those benefits at the same rate as the DWP does. Therefore, they are operated by 3.1 per cent in line with the September CPI. It is a matter for Scottish ministers to make an order affecting the upgrade, which is what you see before Parliament today. I was disappointed, as others were, that the Chancellor did not take the opportunity today to further increase benefits to support people who need it most to deal with the rising living costs. In contrast, the Scottish Government is acting to help households. With the Scottish benefits where we have discretion to go further, we are acting urgently in response to growing cost of living pressures. We will provide additional support by further increasing several forms of devolved social security benefits and assistance from 3.1 per cent instead to 6 per cent in separate regulations, which will be before the Social Justice and Social Security Committee on 31 March. The next item of business is consideration of three parliamentary bureau motions, and I asked George Adam on behalf of the parliamentary bureau to move motions 3747 to 3749 on approval of SSIs. Minister, the question on these motions will be put at decision time. There are five questions to be put as a result of today's business, and the first is the amendment 3712.2 in the name of Jenny Gilruth, which seeks to amend motion 3712 in the name of Graham Simpson on Scotland's ferries be agreed. Are we all agreed? The Parliament is not agreed, therefore we will move to a vote, and there will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system.


Omaha, Omaha, Omaha, Omaha. Cover two, cover two, cover two. Alert, alert, alert, alert, alert. Looking for the seam, looking for the seam, looking for the seam. Got it. Let's go Art Monk. Justin Jefferson couldn't do that. Monk is better than Wallace. Why is he not better than Mike Wallace? Why would I want Mike Wallace over Art Monk, Chad? Go. I don't really wanna play with the Eagles team, dude, I really don't. I wanna just get more reps, regular reps. I'll play, once all the tournaments are over and we losing all the tournaments, then I'll rock strictly Eagles with Team Team, really.  I mean, Justin Jefferson, why would I play with him? Why would I have him?  I don't think people truly understand that part of the game, you know? Warden 50, let's get it. So now this is where, if he has that guy, I should just put Aaron Downer to detackle with double or nothing because Pepe, medium knockout. Use Justin Jefferson over Megatron. Like, dude, Megatron is like, so I have no tall receiver then. I could try him, but I want a tall receiver somewhere, right? Or am I tripping? Can't even put Aaron in back out this play. Oh, tell me, that's your spot you need to pick right there. I understand, but I feel like Calvin is six-five.  He drifted all the way to the left and I'm looking back for him to throw to the left. I mean, that was a tough throw. Like, as much as I wanna like say sorry to the guy, but I mean, that was a tough throw. You know? Because once they start drifting left, my eyes went left.  Like, he's gonna throw that, but he never did. Plus, I feel like I bumped into the Y receiver. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Those, let's go. Toman, nice.  Why would I switch up my defense? Right, you feel me? Like, well, don't switch it up. Level one, let's go, boys. Oh, he manned up that. Damn, he manned up somebody. Clay Matthews has double or nothing. Is he going crazy? I never look at my line. I gotta look at my line more. I really don't. I lost six yards right there. Nice. What do you got on this guy over here? Deep auto leap, fried like that. Pat Pete? Oh, you want, oh, that's not Pat Pete over there. Nah, f*** man. Pat Pete? I don't know why he got a free, why he like lined up bad in that play. I really don't know why.  Free form passing. I've never been able to throw like that before, honestly.  Cover two, cover two, cover two. Alert, alert, alert, alert, alert. Looking for the seam, looking for the seam, looking for the seam. Got it. Let's go Art Monk. Justin Jefferson couldn't do that. Nice, Milo.  See like, why did you randomly move right there? There we go. Oh my God, man. What is that game? Cooper Cup, what are we doing here, kid? Like, what's our idea? What's our plan, Cooper Cup? Buyers, I'm asking a lot, kid.  Yeah, I gotta put them on a wheel. I gotta put them on a wheel when I see all them blitzers, not that little swing route. That was my problem right there. It's just no way. It's just no run.  Oh, this is why we got, what's it called, half bag master, whatever it's called, what's it called? Half bag apprentice. I swear people drink, when they drink at the live events, it's just because they saw it, they're like, damn. They catch Cooper Cup, beat my spinner right there, and I see that. I'm too far away. One step too far away. This is why threat detectors just go, did you just know he's in cover four? Just chilling, no pressure. Yes, threat detectors are terrible for man. It's actually embarrassing that that's a thing. Oh, good defense. But we got buyers, we got buyers. Whoa. I swear I was doing it in the hella coverage right there. It's just man coverage here, though we can come on, figure it out.   Some would say it's exactly what you want to see. I mean, it's cover four boys. It is cover four, 100%. Honestly, I feel like I can get him to guard my running back, right? We hit Cooper Cup here. We do, we just hit Cooper Cup for a touchdown. Keep him in the middle here. We hit buyers. Ah, see buyers got delayed so much. Buyers got delayed so much that it didn't, my play didn't work like I wanted it to. Running back streak, the timing was so bad that they wound up right together.  Yeah, but I wanted him to guard that side though, Jiggy. Like I wanted to, I wanted him to because then I wanted to hit that back. I wanted to try to hit that crossing route, you know, at the goal line. But because the running back never came out cleanly, he didn't have to guard it. And so it was two. It was kind of like, are you going left or right? And then because he got delayed, it was just not good. Dude, this through the Coye just cannot do the double juice like that. That's why sometimes I low key miss the old running back streak where he would like take a step. You know what I mean? Like he would take a step out so he never got hooked up in the line and then go upfield. Again, that time my tight end was just, my tight end was the one that was in shambles. Like, is the kicker really better than Justin Tucker boys? I hit too hard right now. Herman Moore, back from the dead. Who you guys got at Y receiver right now?  And here's the other question. Did you play Madden today? Yes or no? Did you guys get some games in today? Why would you run that against me and coverage? Maple Tron people actually have Claypool out there. Oh, that's nasty. I don't know why I just wanted to, I can't lie.  Like God, I wanted to throw the bubble for fun so bad right there. I really thought like, bro, you're down 14. You just turned the ball over. I came out and I form. I would you not run commit? Like you're in dollar. I just, and then I saw, I'd watched that whole side and like he had a hard flat and a blitz. So they kind of looked like run commit. And when I got to the line, I said, I really want to throw the bubble because content it's more fun. You know, he's got crusher. That's what didn't Cooper cup in right there, you know? Or the rate at which people click off is like nasty dude. Like they don't have no pride in Madden anymore. Like if you're in the open field and it's like, you know, you need like that. Like it's a hard tackle. I understand completely. But if I see you in the agap mono we mono.  I really am. And when there's like really no risk, like even if you missed the tackle, like you got hella coverage like behind me. Like I don't know why there's like a risk. I didn't want to snap. Calvin was low key touchdown. I don't know how this crossing round plus slant is going to do. We were back right there. I'm right, I'm right. That detector we're going to do here. We're going to, we're honestly going to leave these guys like this. Honestly, this might be a Cooper cup snap fast right here. Oh my God. Oh my God.   Our monk touchdown right here. It is. Oh, we manned it up. Nice. Oh, that was actually a good defense.  It's no way that was cross body. There's just no way I'm going right. Like I'm going right. And it was right in front. Oh my God. That's tough, ain't it? I mean, it might have been cross body. Dude, let's join the MCS. I mean, I high balled it, but that don't matter. Would y'all have done that pass? Would y'all have done that pass to that? Kyle Pitts. Dog, there's no way that my corner spins around. God, these kids are just so dog.  Oh my God. Please be open. Please, please, please, please. I'm going to turn no matter what. Dude, like dog, tell me.   Jesus Christ, are you stalling me out right now, dude? Let's grow up, dude. Oh, that was glitchy. Gun punch this moment? You want to run gun punch? There's just no way you caught the perfect standstill animation right there. Oh my God. Hell no, what are you doing? Tell you right now, that's not where you want me. That's not where you want me. I mean, he runs base here, doesn't he, boys? I almost want to put a spy. It's so bad, dude. I really don't feel like he find nothing here. He's still going to run. God, I don't want to spread my line so bad. I want to spread my line so bad. He's done seven hot routes. I want to spread my line so bad, but I got to play to run. All right, nice. Somehow, I mean, do I got to play to Yellow Zone? Like, how are my Yellow Zones this guy, kuchi? How are my Yellow Zones this wide open? Like, I'm going to put a spy just for that reason. I don't want to get dotted because I have no deep zone. But don't come out here and not go for it, bro. You can't be this big. Not for the people at home, not for your family. I'll decline it. I'll decline it. Wow. That's a dumb, it's a dumb. I feel like it's dumb to go for it, too, there. Because, like, if you get a lead, then people are, like, ultra aggressive because it's the whole game, right? If you get a lead. Like, now I have to score on my driver to games over. But now I don't have to score on this drive. So it's a little bit easier to play defense. I don't know how to explain that.  And Calvin Johnson. This is a cover. Oh, good defense. All right, let's go to this right here. We know it's his own. We need some blocking, boys. Is Carmichael on the streak here? What's he got out here? Deep zone, deep zone. Crusher, deep zone, okay. I'm at no time now, so we got a kind of, nice. He went for a strip both times. That's why he missed the tackle, nice. I mean, we're going to hit this drag if he gives it to me to Kyle Pitts. Try to get 10 yards here. And we're going to have it. Oh no, I thought it was a streak. Oh my God, I sold so crazy. Oh my God. Y'all thought. Well, this is the problem, right? Keds want to motion block, right? To block the Blitz, right? They want to motion block. But what happens when you motion block is that now that person that was on the guy that you motioned goes in double teams, the what's your name called? He gets double teams. So that he do to a double team why I receiver right there. We got crazy now with the detection right there too. Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. I mean that game somehow got sweatier then, huh?


Fed Chair Jerome Powell testified today before the Senate Banking Committee. Chair Powell said the following. The latest economic data have come in stronger than expected, which suggests that the ultimate level of interest rates is likely to be higher than previously anticipated. What Chair Powell said today was certainly not good for the market. SPY fell from 404 at market open to 398 today at market close. When we look at the SPY chart, we can see that it dropped below the 200-day exponential moving average of $399. It's now at the 50 EMA. The next level of support will be $394 at the support trend line. The next level down will be then $380 and then $377. I believe the market will continue to be bearish until the month-over-month CPI, PPI, and PCE rates are less than 0.3%. Once the inflation rate numbers are low enough, the market will then recover.