All righty then Yeah, just make sure everything's going but um, yeah, it seems This should this will probably be said anyway, but people should be using efap.me if they need any information about Anything relating to efap, but as we've done episodes It's like we often find ourselves saying like oh, this was the stupidest thing Oh, this was the stupidest video and then we're just like, oh we got we got to start cataloging this shit I'll just keep saying everyone's the stupidest It gets hard well, so yeah, and this is the thing like the easier one to explain would be So so hello Greedo you guys know him, right? Yes, he's uh, he's wonderful.  It's like oh no It's all backfiring.  Expecting better results when you ask a question like that but the other Hall of Famer before we get to the main one is Cinema wins on Rise of Skywalker saying in regards to Palpatine being resurrected So you guys might think there's no way you could see that as being a good thing What about the argument pretend that's what you wanted and then see how you feel It's one of those was we just like how do you how did you You did just seems contradictory. It's like pretend. It's what you wanted. Like how do you even do that? Just just pretend you liked it work You actually did like Yeah, let me guess you liked it when you pretended you wasn't yeah, nothing But the thing is that one I think would have been number one If not for this one and it's funny because this one's so hyper specific You wouldn't have thought it could make it into like a Hall of Fame of bad arguments, but Do you remember you guys probably will when? Gimli says let him stay there. Let him rot. What a week here after the the Battle of Pelino Fields is ended Yes, so what what is Gimli talking about in that scene? What do you what do you think Gary? Talking about Sauron no, he was talking about Frodo and Sam Oh, I completely moved the point of the movies. I've seen you know, I'd say I'd say subtext, but apparently The the best part of the video was the the video was him shitting all over Lord the Riggs Cinematic venom that was that was an e-fap in a half hour, but yeah, he says that he checked the scene And he was he's made sure that Gimli indeed wanted Sam and Frodo to die and this is out of character for Gimli and no one seems to care about it Have you heard of a more insane argument like anywhere for anything? I mean like you're talking about in cinema right like not in real life what I've witnessed in 2020 I Yeah, um as arguments go in youtube videos, we were we were taken aback so that might be the number one hall of fame quote from free fat for now Okay, well the next time I get dumb i'm just gonna say just imagine Pretend you want my penis Yeah, my work you never know I like as well that um You you got to read that one the Lord the Riggs one with no context because when no one has any context to it I feel like you read Gimli wanted Sam Frodo to die and you just be like I don't see how that could possibly like there's just no context We thought there was no context to Oh Yeah, he obviously hated him so much I didn't care I was all really happy to see him later Well, yeah, you know when he's like tearing up when he thinks that Frodo's died and when he's really happy to see them at the end Like all of that is just that's just the face that Gimli wears That's just that famous door of an acting.  He says that the entire set of characters have no character. They're all like blank slates I'm gonna have to watch this. It'll hurt you. I swear. Be careful. You know, um It was uh, it was a surprise You know, you know, one day someone will release that killer video for lord the rings and it'll all it'll change everyone's minds on it That might that might be it though.  Yeah That's what we do all the time. That's what we get accused of all the time.  Why do you why do you go into the sequel trilogy looking to hate it? Why why'd you do that? Can't just enjoy stuff. Can you? well The emperor returning I mean come on This this how exciting I can't you just lay back and enjoy it, you know I think I hit I remember hit the hit the argument I can't I can't remember who made it was just like well what choice did jj have like make kylo the main villain No, you have to have the emperor and it's just like why not just have another snoke.  You got loads of them They're all in tubes Got a whole tank of snokes. It's like the lobster tank at the you know the at the grocery store is like I went that Snoke. Yeah, you just plug it out have have a go Maybe have a few of them like a trio of snokes I have a council of snokes The old grease is kind of pointless, but hey That would have been even better And they talk like twins they finish each other's sentences. Oh, I thought you're gonna leave me the gap to say sentences Well, I mean if they were born in a tube and they're just pooping in the tube and they're rolling the tube Yeah, they're all pooping in the same tube. They I mean, you're not really brothers with someone until you say They're the same What if they're like the twins from the matrix the second matrix The people who made it or the people who were in it. No, there's snokes. I just said people put the blonde wigs on them Flippity flip flips everywhere. They could go through the cars and stuff Dude, imagine the matrix robots plugging into snow because they're just like What is this? Find out the next star wars book Yeah, we need that lore man, I imagine They must have found that a bit lame, you know when trying to stimulate the human race in the matrix I bet art wasn't as good Because it was all simulated. They were just like, oh We're never gonna get such great movies and things anymore.  We're in a simulation 50 some sign I don't know what Say 50 percent. Yeah, but they've calculated that it's exactly a 50 chance one out of two You know, it's 100 true 50 percent of the time Right Of scientists. I'll see that's the thing Two percent of scientists say 50 percent of the time it's 100 true Right. Yeah, this point. I think we gotta find out what We got to find out what percentage two the scientists are out of all of them I imagine it's fairly low and then we need to run Transparency scientist org where we can find out exactly what the politics are so we know whether or not we can believe them Hmm and it should be run by a bot Yes, and if you don't get put into twitter jail, then that means you're okay as well because you're not spreading fake news Well, i'm glad you've been erased from from twitter. I was I was seeing my feed and I was getting indoctrinated into your uh into your radical radicalism Now that they banned you I feel freed As you should I suppose. Yeah, if you want to if you want to let the the olifap audience know about that What what happened to you today as what's going on? I got I got I got banned from I got banned from twitter for 12 hours because I uh I linked a memology 101 video three days ago. This is a three day old tweet as well and they're just like, uh You violated the rule against posting misleading information about voting Please give us your phone number and we'll let you back in your account I'll call Give them a give them a burner phone. There you go No, I'll take the 12 hours. Thanks. Yeah. Well, how does it work? Is it like next time? It'll be 24 the next time it's permanent or something like that I don't care Well, so I think twice before sharing videos. All right I know. Well, that's just it. That's the whole point. That's what they want. They just want you to be silent That's the whole point They just want to uh Do little little nasty raps on the knuckles until you're silent And so all that all the news that comes out is exactly what they want it to be Well, yeah, the video is interesting But uh, I guess if we talk about or promote it, we could we could all get banned off everything It is the most controversial video in existence potentially Yeah on youtube and everyone can view it and youtube is fine with it. Well, yeah, youtube's okay That's the funny thing about a lot of these sort of uh Collectives it's like sometimes they seem to be unified on everything and then other times twitter's like this is a banable offense and youtube's like, huh? Huh, not even we understand. Yeah, we're lost on that one It's hard to rank them in terms of craziness. I think is twitter at the top They they didn't exchange emails that day and they couldn't decide if they were collectively for or against election tampering YouTube is like the one kid in the group who's like, I don't know. I don't know. That seems a lot of videos I don't know and they're like, what do you mean? He's like No, nothing. Nothing. Yeah, it's bad. Yeah twitter that's all right down to uh protect uh under Biden I remember people tweeting about that. I was like weird timing on it, but um, this is the problem There's no transparency. You'll never know what's going on or why but um I like people have already caught that title who the hell is saying empire is bad There are people out there who would like to try and approach that argument and of course We've uh, we've all had the the fortune of seeing the movie I think all four of us probably like it a little You know, that's fortune because it's real we're actually bad Kind of love it a little bit that little not silly little movie with the glow sticks This is nice and cute came out a while ago Point yeah, not quite as good as what we get these days obviously being very old but It's pretty neat. Um Pretty neat We are expecting a drinker any moment So i'll try and we'll try and have a little chat for a bit before we before we jump in though I probably should say uh Gary since you haven't been here since we started asking this incredibly important question We'll have to get your Perspective on it christmas or halloween. Which do you think is better? Oh boy Oh, that's a hard question for me. Um I'm gonna have to say uh halloween Oh Join my team brother My anniversary is on halloween. I was married. Oh, that's not That's not fair Nobody had hey that's the thing the whole thing is unfair man, you know Everybody's just judging it from how they feel and that's the way to do it. That's the way to break Name is rigged as you can see from my profile. I quite enjoy halloween.  So Now What do you want to say about it rags because people will probably be curious? What's the blurb, you know The blurb for amnesia rebirth like what do you what do you put into like a sentence? Is this the time? Oh, well, we'll like I said, we'll we'll talk about it at length on monday With metal and stuff. Um, yeah, but for now Wasn't very good. Uh, I mean, yeah, amnesia rebirth is kind of not good It was really Really disappointing Not gonna lie didn't particularly enjoy going through it um I I wanted to just get through it Um, yeah, it wasn't too interested in a lot of the stuff going on in the second half especially because The payoff started getting just more and more uninteresting There's not too much good about it. Honestly. It's a total for baller's baby. It's like, yeah, press x to rub tummy Refrictional hey as gary you ever thought you'd play a game where a mechanic was press x to rub tummy Well, no, you see I like the idea already It'll help you deal with being terrified by crazy monsters if that makes that make more or less sense I don't know Um Yeah, we uh We'll talk a lot more about it on uh on the recording on monday We'll try and get that out for you guys before the end of this month It's um, it's a game that rags and I anticipated quite a bit and we weren't very happy with it, but that's Not important. It's fine Which was the um the horror game where you had a camera and you He was ghost and you end up taking pictures of Japanese girl girls Oh, oh is that uh, fuck. What's the is it a Japanese game? Yeah Camera was still in the name of it. I know what you're talking about. Um, someone in chat's going to be able to get it I think but um Some might have assumed you were talking about outlast with uh with the video camera, but yeah, I know what you mean Watch how you can do it. Give us the answers I don't know It's in my head. I'm pretty sure it's two words Uh, yeah, uh Come on, someone knows see someone guessed out fatal frame. Fatal frame. Yeah, okay kind of sounds right. Yeah batwaman It could be batwaman. Yeah Is that still set for early next year because good lord, that's uh, have you seen the batmobile?   Hey the car will be perfect once it once it's driven by a woman I don't know what the light would be This speeding ticket will be perfect when he's given to a woman Oh My god. Yeah, I'm so ready, dude I feel like episode one is going to be a complete dumpster fire with how they try and transfer from season one to two The big thing of course was just um There's no resolution for for k k to do dad then I guess Oh, yeah, and they were setting that up to be the big thing They're missing. I don't know if the dad's missing as well, but The plot's going to be that k kane's missing and she's been kidnapped by The lesbian pirate how many times are she kidnapped in the season like 17? How many episodes were there 20 20 time? Good for her. I guess she's she's pulling it right through. Um I suppose it would be worth mentioning since we're on tv shows. Uh, what is what was the general consensus from you two on On the boy season two. Did you both watch it? Yeah Well, that's that's promising like gross Boring I think for the most part boring Um Well, I I wasn't bored by it.  I was just getting annoyed, but uh, bored by I've heard this going around like the um The the the amount of padding people felt were was in the season We were when we were going over it in the stream. We did notice like there's a lot of scenes where I mean it looks it's really bad when you think about um, everything with the deep is skippable on a rewatch Yeah, there's just no point and um A hui There's nothing to him this season that arc was weird It was it was he needs to stand up for himself and so at the end he he joined the team Oh, I thought his arc was I like a girl Um, I don't know to be honest with you. There's a couple of arcs right at the same time I think or at least implied ones, but as he's very he's very explicit at the end He's like, I gotta stand on my two feet. I can't be I can't be clinging to people anymore It's just like, oh those dudes are your friends. That's not you don't have to You can be friends with people and not cling to them And then he just clings to it to a completely other thing So really weird ending and um, I did nothing He got to go back to his family at the end that we haven't really seen anything from at all Oh, they'd sort of forgot they existed and now they're back It's so that he could be happy so we could have our happy reset ending Oh, you mean the one of the very last moments of the whole season Yes, that lasted for about five seconds Well, um, did you either you get the impression that like season two is almost a skippable season?  You'll probably be okay. Because like still front cubs goes Um, the status quo is reformed we've even Uh, I think the only thing missing would be getting the deep back in the seven But again, that makes sense from the end of season one. So yeah, I think it's kind of weird Um Though the crazy telekinesis woman has been released. Who knows what kind of crazy antics she might get up to in season three Yeah, who knows? Hey, yeah Maybe she'll be an interesting character out of curiosity. Do you get more entertainment value out of batwoman or the boys season two? Well batwoman because it at least it provoked a reaction from me. The boys didn't it was just There it existed, but it didn't do him. I didn't feel anything other than I've just wasted an hour Well, there was any I think it was one episode. I enjoyed the thing episode five I was like, actually that was really that was good that one And that was it. That was all the others were just they just happened I mean, there was moments. It wasn't the worst television. It's not like I'm reviewing star trek discovery Which I mean like batwoman is funny like it's in watching you guys review it is even better, but um Like star trek discovery is still like offensively bad But the boys was uh disappointing because there was a lot it just went really cw for me there was so much feelings and basements and feelings and diners and uh little anecdotal stories that don't mean crap to the to the overall thing and um and you know the human being in me I can't it's it's hard for me to Especially a property that I loved so much that comic and to see it just neutered absolutely neutered, especially the butcher Who is just a much better character in the comic books? And uh, and my beef with it was the agenda quite frankly in this in the seven what we talked about in the in the pulled ultimate episode was it seventh or eight I can't remember seventh Where you know the freaking the whole memes led to everything and that was dumb as hell We actually um in the last stream we paused for like all of the individual babes. Oh man It can't mean It's oh, it's hilarious that they actually like someone made those I like to think a team of seven people made them. Okay. I got a lot. I think it's like a I think they seem like an ai one sort of was programmed to make memes And so the ai did its best to just randomly put together memes and that's what it came up with Well, I think the ai was a 50 year old dude Children love these pictures with the words on them I got a I got a question for you more. Oh my god Go for it because we all seem to get everyone seems to get on nicey. Nicey. We need we need some more bloods and Montague's and capulets here. So when is e-fap Uh gonna go mono e-mono against friday night tights at among us Bitch.  Wait, you can't do that though because it's all it's all one on ones. How do you make teams? Well, you would just have would have how many can he have eight would have four e-fappers and would have four Friday night tires on among us that wouldn't really be like two Teams of four like it wouldn't be a four v four really Oh, completely agreed. I'd love to play some video games with you I was just confused at the concept of that being a team game. Like how's that work? No, we just pretend it's like e-fap versus friday night tires, but we're just Um, we're done. Yeah, sure.  You guys been liking deceiving people. Is that it? Is that what you got banned from twitter?  Vota fraud bad everyone. Let's yes. I think everyone can let's twitter in which case voting fraud good Voting fraud questionable when it depends on who's in charge and who's judging uh, can't believe As targeted an innocent minority for Doing a civil service. It's it's yeah, you targeted me. Mology doesn't doesn't his icon have like a sombrero So you're going after some kind of innocent person. They are Yeah, I linked a brown person Wow Yeah, I think you can just do that and send your hordes after them on twitter Well, I tried and well what happened I still People link me like tweets on discord where they're like this person's saying this about you by the way It'll it'll be like a full paragraph. How much I'm the worst person ever and it'll end with I'll bet he'll quote tweet this and send his hordes after me.    After I have to I can respond to them, but it has to be in a dm It's like, hey, don't be mead Um, don't open up my mentions and I have to like sift through it. It takes me like 10 whole minutes No, I had a curiosity. Okay. There's no wrong answers here. I'm not gonna hurt you Okay, you may have heard that I might have but but I won't I swear Either either of you guys seem by mana. What do you think of it? Seeing who? Blimey manner the haunting of blimey manner. Oh, uh, no Yeah Uh, I couldn't finish the first episode. It was moving a little slow, but Uh, what you said, so I'm like, okay, I'll give it another chance because I'm aller If it wasn't for you, I wouldn't even give it a shot I like I wouldn't promise that anyone would like level anything in it, right? It's just that uh It's it does some stuff that really impressed me and I'm probably gonna make a video on it Eventually one day as I am with everything that exists. It's all in a giant list. Um But uh, what it had to say about Um memory and mental illness uh was was incredibly meaningful To me, um, but but of course it would may not hit people the same way And I would just say like yeah, give it a shot just in case you don't you might not want to miss out I think um Critical drinker scene just over half of it so far. So if he were here, I would say hey, what do you think so far? Tell gary to watch it It'll be great It is a shy, well, we well constructed story. Um Really uh, really really stellar We were impressed and I will I will sit through it.  Yeah, then that's gonna be a clip. Um, so Whatever. Hey boy um Yeah, I I finished with the boys. I was really early with that.  I I was I was expecting like everyone else something more like the first season too So the or the you know haunting a And hillhouse or and that was that season was that was good. That was so good Yeah, it seems it was much more of a crowd please the hillhouse than Bly Manor has been but You know Bly Manor is better It is okay. I I think it's uh the hillhouse.  It is kind of hard to be definitive about ghosts because they're ghosts, but but uh, he does give it a harder shot I would say in the second season than the first in terms of um Powers if you will or lack of a better word Cool I'm more excited to know that they've started filming Superman and Lois this week. Oh the oh, what's that? That's the cw show, right Yeah Oh, so what's Lois gonna? I guess they'll just be Reporters together. What if it was just that it was just being reporters Like he doesn't actually do any Superman stuff for all of season one.  So That was that was a good show. I love that. I remember watching that.  Um, because I wouldn't believe the guy flying around Yeah, it'll be interesting to see a show about reporting news New advantage of Superman was on tv Journalism was still a credible Job now not so much the good old days yes Back in my day They used to see something happen and then tell us about it. How crazy is that?   It was about getting pictures of spider-man Exactly. It was so much more simple back in those days. It really was He's a menace. He is the menace Oh, yeah, they got more of the rings They're um, they've stung up the third spider-man for the mcu now as well, right? But everything mcu has been pushed super far as far as I know Yep, so Like when are they gonna give up and push a black widow onto streaming? I'm assuming that's like their only option at this point No, they weren't they might just sit on it ring time, don't they They're gonna hope I think we got a one that's coming out right at the end of this year. Is that still happening? Yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna wait for one of you guys to watch it and say tell me I'm not gonna I like the only way I'm watching that is if it goes on to streaming I'll give it a shot but like that trailer bad how it ended. I was just like, oh my god Yeah, you have to take the bullet, okay All over it because uh Fringy was telling me about the plot line or at least what what we we assume it is from from some leaks And I was just like Jesus Christ, like that's having real real trouble following it I haven't really read anything on Wonder Woman Uh, I don't have too much of an interest in it, but if it's crazy bad I'd be happy to watch a super crazy bad movie. That's that's way. That's interesting What you mean if it goes into like catwoman territory? Well, I mean with that ending it's probably going in at least into cat's territory, right?  Yeah Yeah, it's uh, it's looking to be a weird one. Um, the story does sound terrible Unpredictable as well, which is great. Well, because there's nothing worse than that Like I don't think this is a spoiler, right? So her boyfriend Guy dies in the first film and in this one. He's already in the trailer. So it's like, huh? And from what I understand She makes like a monkey paw type deal where she wishes for him to come back to life And it's gonna it's gonna cost her some stuff and that's like the premise Already it's like Ruining everything again I just feel like the introduction of like a wish system into the dc universe right now is probably not going to help with People had to study however they works, but you know, why not? Let's let's go crazy Oh, and uh, Zach Snyder's had, um Jesse Eisenberg back in, isn't he for some uh, Lex Luthor scenes and he's been getting a lot of people back in, isn't he? Yeah, Jared Leto set up for some Joker scenes in Justice League and um, the guy who played Deathstroke He's he's done some from what I know. Hmm. Yeah.  That is the best thing about the whole film is You guys hopeful for another night of cut I think it's gonna make more sense I think it's gonna be That's the first thing he says Probably more sense It's gonna make more sense than the joss widen one. How is it? How is it gonna work? Continuity-wise like which one are they going to make sequels for if you know what I mean? uh, Zach Snyder's Is that like, um, is it dependent on maybe how well it does or is it just going to be categorical? They're just like, uh, we'll go with that Well, they have a plan, uh, but of course it will it really will depend on how successful The, um, Snyder cut one does But if it if it does well, then I've they said I've already got a plan for future Um content based off of that well Because there's such a lack of content now because of the shutdown The uh, all studios are now going back and taking a look at what they have Uh, what was partially shut down stuff they shelved that they can maybe retool Save some money and have some content because that's all they need right now Yeah, so yeah All kinds of meetings about how everything's just gonna have to change Everything the way they do everything it has to change. They have to evolve and adapt now to everything that's happening Yep So yeah, like I said, if it's successful, then we get like this Snyder universe on uh on hbomax because then we'll get a Universe we'll get a um suicide squad That could be good back to back uh super chats right now.  It wasn't that great So hopefully it'll be better.     It's like Yeah Not only did he kill people Oh, yeah, and that's not included in all of the people.   We can add um Ray and lond into their team It'll make 180 thousand dollars The thing is so many people would turn up just to be like seriously they put batwoman a captain marvel in a team Oh my god, after marvel and dc crossover. We've been waiting for years and that's what we get I would pay to see jake up shoot them with his gun. I would I would that's just a dream scene That was the best scene in the whole series Sir, it's like look at this round. He's like desert eagle that could shoot through anything I too know nothing about guns You can start the movie making both murder john connor like during the credits Oh man, yeah, nobody would be that bold Whoops It's gonna get another sequel I guarantee it Anani would be in a game So it was never really about john That's what people need to understand When you watch t2 they were mainly protecting like just some kid. It wasn't really It's not important Just some grifter The next people are Arnold will just be a full-on interior decorator I mean, you know, I love honey, but like he's gonna be the wheelchair of the next one Let's go get them We need an old man who's in better shape quick call william shatner Hey, bill's looking great. He's doing great for these 19 next year for goodness sake.  Is that happening?  Yeah, they will squeeze every season out of him that they can I'm sure Yeah, discovery. I saw gary you released some reviews on discoverers like discoveries. It's got another season Like how is this happening? I think they might just be they just need a show Yeah They just need content for brand that's that's the only reason Yeah, because the ratings don't seem to be doing good and I don't exactly hear people talking about how glowingly amazing That show is Things that's all I ever hear. Is it like how are the ratings doing? Is it enough you think to get? Like no additional seasons or is it someone else? it's it's uh It's netflix so netflix helps pay for some of this apparently there's some five-year deal That uh, that's been funding it but it's less and less money every time because they blew it all kind on the first two seasons That's amazing after signing a five-year deal and then you see the first season and you're like, oh god four more years Yes, oh my god. I think the next fix deal was three So I think the fourth season's actually had to be funded elsewhere. Really?   Well, I've seen a couple people reviewing that show whenever I see the Like the description of she went She go like through time and space and like a giant angel suit sending red energy to people. I was like, uh, I'm not following this anymore I'm getting very That episode of the next generation where they did that it's they've done this before it's all it's all totally grounded Yeah, when they can send uh signals that are 150 light 150,000 light years apart that appears simultaneously somehow It's not because final episode where hi, this is a device that can do anything You just have to think it Don't they bring that out It's called it's all the uh programmable matter bullshit device. Yeah, no the best part as Uh as I'll get this did you know that the red angel suit and the discovery had both had autopilot? Both had autopilot. Yes They both had odd. Okay. So the the premise is they had to get the discovery out of the current timeline because it had information from an artificial It was terrible. They had to get it out of this timeline And they were running from an artificial intelligence that didn't know it Well that knew enough that it wanted to be an artificial intelligence But it wasn't quite an artificial intelligence yet. So they defeated the Oh, you know with red and they still left the timeline that they didn't need to leave And they decided to man the ship and man the suit, but they had they had autopilot They could have just flown them out of there without going Yes Now this is why we need to keep the word retard alive We have to be able to have words to describe these things This is a bit of a mentally deficient Oh boy I just since that one's just come in I could probably just grab it on for you Neurotic, uh Saw your recent Lord of the Rings video and wondered what do you think of the possibility of Game of Thrones being considered mythology? Do the people following mythology? Damn it. I didn't catch all of it Just went off screen Give me a second because I just figure if I can catch the ones that actually come and directed at youths Probably a good way to make it so you don't miss them at the end Because I doubt you guys are going to be available for 12 hours, right? I am prepared for for damn near most of it. We'll say that depends on Uh, sorry, I can read it out slowly now. I'm not not in crazy format Saw your recent Lord of the Rings video and I wondered what do you think of the possibility of Game of Thrones being considered mythology? Due to people following mythologies of the author like Lord of the Rings That would be scary Well, it would be closer to real mythology to be honest with you I mean mythology of Greek mythology is crazy. So, uh, it's not yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think I mean incest drapes everywhere Great, well, you know, uh, I got new tube speak um, and uh, yeah, uh, Tolkien's is a very nice mythology It's a very, you know, he's he's a hardcore catholic. Uh, he doesn't want to put sex in this stuff uh, yeah, I could see if like, uh I don't know what you're saying there Maybe if somebody finds it in the future and it turns into mythology or people would consider it our American mythology Sure. Why not? I mean you got to finish the story though. I would think yeah, maybe not Let's hope the show doesn't enter mythology status. All right It's moving away from that one Oh, I I predict I mean, I don't know who's read the books here. I know mauler you're I've read the lord of the rings books. Yes. Um, they're good and they have an ending Uh, a song of ice and fire I I the ending of the books could be just as bad could be. Yeah No sense, but it'll piss just as many people off if I think people are already they've already been let down by game of thrones Whereas lord of the rings people even the hobbit Isn't then like sour the lord of the rings. It was like its own thing Yeah, because being honest like the only thing I remember is that um Gandalf probably should have looked into the ring a little sooner if you consider the hobbit films as being prequels to the lord of rings which obviously they are uh Like you know, they were fine. I mean they weren't great, but they don't affect how all you feel about lord of the rings Yeah, I don't think so most people. Yeah, we're cool with the hobbit films existing. I suppose Nothing like the sequel trilogy They didn't get me mad.   Yeah, I don't I don't think anyone like that It was it was weird. It was weird because it was real It was real Oh, yeah, damn Maybe we shouldn't remind ourselves of the hobbit films actually Let's come out to bat one quick. Listen lord of the rings had tons of dead dwarfs in it. What's a few more?  I can't say that not on live television Oh, sorry little people. Yeah, that's the way supposed to go um Hurricane reminders, I think Uh Drink it will be here at any any time now, but I'm just gonna I'm just gonna run into our uh Our topic for the day was actually so Have you guys ever come across a guy called 8080 chat? unfamiliar No, oh wow really he's um, I guess he's just uh, he's just not come across you at all Then he's he's like a mini. Hello. Greedo. He does the exact same things How do you have a little version of him ever come across? Well, this is a thing.  Like it's it's that kind of um personality so And the funny thing is we were we were always at a point like yeah We might might cover it at some point here and there, but like I think it was a week and a half ago or um 10 days something like that. He uh, oh, yeah, it is 10 days. Haha He so he said um, so someone responded to him about one of the videos he made being good And someone sent me the screenshot where he was like, uh, uh, yeah Well, I'll send it to you guys as well. Actually rags. Do you want to read it out? Yeah, let's uh, let's give this a read. Um, this is uh at at chat Saying hey really appreciate it those efap weirdos loved making fun of it with some sword master guy Explaining why it's all wrong. It was hilarious to watch So we've never covered him before Wait, is this the video where he says the the throne room fight was good? Well, we've we've covered people saying that before we've never covered him. Um, yeah, we've never covered him. So yeah It was actually smudcast who had shad on um, and they covered his video about how the throne room fight is like the best fight in star wars Which wow I'm like the idea of liking the fight is like one thing but the best in the entire saga like jeez Uh All right, we'll have a float you boat. Um Well, I got one for you then. What do you think is the best like same to fight in star? Uh, it would be for me probably the empire when luke invaded fight. That's probably my favorite But uh, I really like the dathmore fight as well for different reasons I I would personally say the dathmore fight I'm leaning towards that one kind of yeah, what are you gary? Oh, uh Luke and beter had more impact. I mean like technically the the the darth mal fights better as far as sword play laser sword play it's uh, it's Yeah, it's it's more entertaining the music's great, but as far as impact for me. I'm just gonna be I guess uh, of course, uh, I want to special mention for revenge of the siths Anakin obi one fight as uh, I don't know if you've seen shad's video on it, but it's quite amazing how um How much effort went into that fight on a choreography scale? Of course, yeah, but that's just a problem for me. It just felt too choreographed Oh, I mean, I'll take that over fumbling and dropping Weapons and falling over for no reason throughout the whole fight. You know what I mean like They tried with uh with tlj to make it the clear goal with the throwman fight was to have it be this This enormous like wide shot of just all this chaos happening at once, but Unfortunately, you end up with stuff like three people getting kicked by one foot, which uh, yeah Force kick. Yeah force increases the range of your kick by 600 percent I've run out of skill points, dude. Oh my goodness. I gotta save up next level because I want this force kick ability I want to be able to kick five people at once with my one foot But But I mean, yeah, you know, everyone takes a different one and uh sword master guy is obviously referring to to shad Um, at least, you know, he gives him the proper respect. He is a master of swords. That's true. Yeah And so yeah, uh, but the thing is the the one that was on like the backlog sort of to cover was uh, this guy made a video like Pretending to to use like using my format but going after empire strikes back. Um When I'd heard that that was a thing I was like, man, this gotta be uh, it's gonna be super interesting. I imagine. Um So first of all, I just wanted to show you guys, um Why why is he motivated to go after that empire? What would what would be your theory on that? Why would he do that? I've got a theory. My theory is and we've seen it before is that the the Primary way that people defend the sequels is by trying to tear down the originals Yes, you see if my thing is in the mud and then I put your thing in the mud then we're all in the mud We're all muddy Yeah, I would say jealousy Oh, absolutely. Yeah, they're let's say it's a big frustration that they're um Their beloved movies are not reaching the same level of appreciation as something from you know as early as the 70s They're just like boo Yeah, do you want to do you want to check this one out rags? Someone said but the blade disappeared Uh me no one cares at all except people trying to earn money on youtube When I see a deep dive nine hour diatribe on this frame, I'll take the grifters seriously Wow, what we're grifters. Yep. Well, that's a really that's just thrown everywhere these days.  They don't like and you have an audience. This is simple as that Um, I guess he moves on to Nazi. They're trying something different He moves on to quote something. I've literally never heard before ever said, um, but we can't critique the ot They started it all. Who's ever said that? I I have no idea who said this There's no source that he's quoting. I've never I've never heard anyone say this Like it's an argument I don't think I've actually ever heard of before they started it therefore you can't criticize them Does anyone ever use that for anything ever when it relates to film franchises? That's weird. I had plenty of criticism Yeah, well, maybe that doesn't count because a new hopes.   So uh, right you want to read want to read this one all right, um I love that this guy's channel is so bad that he needs to do live streams regarding if my opinions on what I enjoy Are objective enough Bunch of yolks I don't know like he's like eggs I used to like egg yolks. You're right. Um I don't know. I guess they made sure to get some high-profile guy to dismantle my happiness Will you tell us right no, no, yeah No idea on that one, but it's just so you have the context for uh for this next tweet.   It's like, um, what do you what do you think read that one out, right? All right, he's got a new one today. Can't wait to flag it in what the shit show unfold Oh Not even interested in watching it.  I'll never call her back. It's mud boys. Um, last of his two stuff was good. I watched it Please he's he's uh doing something similar to what we do. He checks out videos talks about him Has different guests on and the idea that if he covers your video, you should flag him. It's like wow That's really toxic, but okay The worst kind of a youtuber like jesus So what I mean? No, I mean not so what that you Uh target somebody.  So what?  You can do a lot of damage a claim can be really annoying And uh when either of them are done in like a false way is bad That card's ladder had a bunch fired at his channel.    Uh, we we just haven't covered him and since he said that the other week Like he's he's already operated as though we have it's like well Maybe it's time to check out his his video saying that um Yeah It's called the empire strikes back killed star wars and then and then a bright rage review The joke is that it's it's me Doing it like and he's already in me or satirizing me But of course we'll we'll give it the treatment. We give um cinema sins, right? So if everything is either a joke Or or we can we can um You can have to take them case by case, but you know if say for example He has like a reference like he did in that tweet where he's like, ah, see the lightsaber Probably should have I don't know cut vaders Arm, but it doesn't therefore these movies are fine The the sequel movies are fine get over it sort of thing. It'll just be interesting to see What kind of uh Comparisons he'll he'll bring up. We who do we do that with recently rags? It was it was um somebody who's trying to argue like There there are silly moments bad jokes and all this other stuff in the original trilogy as well As if to imply like it's just it's all on a level playing field You see in terms of craft. Yeah all day like this thing we get that we kind of get that a lot Because that's that's that's the thing people defend the sequels by trying to tear down The originals and they do that all the time they go for the prequels a lot as well Though it's easier to go after the prequels.  Everyone would have hated it.  Yeah, because Yeah, well, he said something like he said though it uh, it was it was bs What he said but he said there was a lot of people who were upset with it and that was just flat out untrue Uh, we were kind of blown away at the you know the cliffhanger, but you know, I don't remember people being mad Just wanting to see the next one really quick Oh, and I yeah That's the effect with the empire with you guys and you know watching it again after an year been a while Been a little while since I've watched them pie And it was just like fantastic Yeah, uh rags and I watched it about two months ago. We were watching so It was quite good really enjoyed it and I've been watching We're watching a lot of the ot recently myself for this mando video going through Clips and getting references and I just sort of find myself starting to Just sort of watch it Really really good stuff a lot of really good stuff in there Um for those of you who haven't watched the ot in a while and are operating from memory Really does owe itself to a good rewatch. There's a lot of good stuff in there and it has aged really well Um, so are we able to Like the garage needs to do any kind of switch out in any kind to yeah If sorry about that I should have thought about it before but if you want to vamp for like a couple minutes I can just switch out mic so we don't we can we can have a talk Bet you can As explains the audience why did you hate empire strikes back? Because I didn't like the way that They because they had a black guy in it. Oh my god terrible He had a cape. What are they trying to say? I know Oh, I'm fine with a black guy. I just hated when they made him the good one. Yeah Oh, yeah Makes no sense a city on clouds Really good job Like Come on.  What you the engines keeping up in the air would be so noisy Oh I think of the environment the pollution Giant space penis monster like really, okay My suspension disbelief out the window Like absorb the Phase the shots from his light pistol.  Yeah Vamp like Halloween vampire.  It's like it's not even hot Yeah, it's all Maybe it was a cutlery, you know Help yourself. I think we've talked about this before but it's always just like if I think even robot chicken did the joke But it's like imagine they all do go on that table But then there is one storm trooper like everyone's a main character. There's just one trooper there who's like, hey This feels I feel out of my depth here honestly There's a wow dark fader. Oh, I can't believe it. Oh and Boba Fett.   Oh, I mean like oh Bad dude, he looks over at Vader. It's like, oh, yeah, this is bad guy Oh, this this guy watch watch out for this one. He's uh, hmm He's a scoundrel If you need I could do that. I I will do that Hey chewy So what are we eating? I'm just like, oh and remember it in solo when he's like chewing I yeah, that was I remember in the cinema I was just like what Oh, no Why are you doing this to myself? Wouldn't it be funny if Han knew how to speak the goofy shit?  No We're gonna No, see it wouldn't have made sense if that was just a surname. Would you have to explain that?  Han On your own your own person. Um on your own.  What's going on? We still that's still happening. It's like they they refuse to deny it, but uh, I guess it's it's always going to be a possibility I don't know what's going on with lucas film deciding that one Maybe something they still want to commit to Constantly baffles me that that would be the person who gets a trilogy after everything that happened as a result Yeah, I feel like Just toss of the toss 10 trilogies out to all kinds of directs at this point.  Just not him though He he he he did enough, you know Did enough? Oh, he did Oh, they're already talking about witches spin-offs. Oh my god witches spin-offs. Damn Everything is franchising that Yeah How can we so fun times before they've actually established a franchise? Yeah, I think that's The sad part with a lot of it Han, I have no people That'd be a long surname, but I I think it makes more sense. Sure. Yeah, that's how I have no people han. Who are you? Who are you? I Like Well, and at the end of the empire strikes back, he became han cubed. So I remember how people would refer to alien three as alien cubed because of the way they did the the titling on it You'll tree still three, yeah but um I had some like cheese cubes at the um that Darth Vader's little dinner thing Imagine there was no food at all and the trooper is just like Are we is it happening? How was how was vader eating?   So, you know, we gotta just we gotta kill time Tell your story you think it'd be really quick to get an empty room ready, but I suppose they're still working on it Is it working Gary? Yes, we can hear you Oh my god, oh my goodness So now you're able to see video and audio and listen to audio Yes without echoing See that's the kind of technology that just baffles me, you know, and it's just so cool We have it we can watch videos together over the internet cavemen would be an awe But yeah, that's uh, that's the channel you want to jump in Yes Oh, yeah, a lot of people referencing loud soup that would make sense. Yeah Oh, yeah, that's right It was live soup all along You want this loud soup? All right, where are we then? So, yeah, I think the meme was you couldn't take the format of what I do and apply it to anything and make it look bad so And he's even got objective review in the thumbnail So you guys excited to to hear about how empire strikes back killed stalls I'm not gonna lie Shocking revelation that the guy who has apparently got his name and his icon all based around star wars is desperate to defend Star Wars He has to defend the brand that he's made his channel about so you do wonder if like Is it possible to release a movie in the star wars saga that you don't like Or think is poorly made. Is it possible? I don't know. I guess we'll never know All good. It's my brand might be All good Oh my god Accurate or not. Well, so this is the thing The awkward part of covering anything that's satire or parody is that it it slithers out of any kind of criticism but You have to do with the jaxi cinema sins route where you judge everything he says on like funny factor and then accuracy factor Um, so so we'll just take it piece by piece. It won't be funny. I'll I'll Guess that right now. Oh spoilers rags. Geez. How did you know? No, I was spoiling. I'm I'm guessing I know that my guesses are basically like spoilers because I'm such a good guesser But uh, I I don't know I rags mess over here I guess I have to talk about this movie, you know, is it too much to ask for the second film in a series to not suck I am bewildered by what I just watched and to be frank I'm not sure that I'm ever going to watch it again because of how depressed You're out in the rain because your friends don't let you go into their parties or the room People just want you to leave. So this is how you watch this rain poke your head through the window and feel sad That's how we watch his movies. He walks through the street looking for different houses that have Films I like movies. I watch movies with my friends probably why his viewing pleasure was slightly, you know, poor Yeah, you could argue it might have affected his experience I'm not sure what's more impressive making the best blockbuster of all time or making the most boring Sequel to a movie I have ever seen since the Exorcist 2.  This is But hey at least in this I always bleep it out At least he he kind of like, you know, he likes the original in this in this with this character that he's playing You know, that's something. Yeah, I'd be interested how um, the a new hope is uh Good, but empire is bad. I'd be curious to see the differences between the two Oh, yeah, the other lens you have to keep running right now is like Have you gotten the impression so far? It's like, ah, he's he's doing a mohler like so far. It's like, uh No, this isn't anything like you All right, well Please he just sounds really angry, but uh, that's what if you remember when I did my five hour series Where I was very calmly going through the scenes and being like this isn't working because what about Patrick Willems and many others were like, why would I watch a five hour angry rant? It's like, oh Like oh, you didn't launch it. Okay I mean you can call me bitter sure, but like angry. It's like, all right We're going to judge through the ultimate zero sum of a movie the empire strikes bad I don't even need to explain the original star wars film that came out, you know I'll get it. It was already perfect. Oh Just so it's the more things we never say more things most people never say That's the thing. I've never heard anyone say the ot's perfect Especially not new hope. It's not perfect. It's really good. Wait, do you mean especially not return to the Jedi or? No, you said especially not a new hope Why especially out of the three of them would it be a new hope? Because this the the words on the screen right now that he's saying her original was already perfect Yeah, but you said out of the ot especially a new hope because he's talking about a new hope Like he's he's talking about it Right now. He's especially talking about it right now He's he's specifically designating that one out of the trilogy is the one that's being referenced is the perfect one Yeah, but that doesn't make sense because you said out of the ot and then you said Especially a new hope. Why would it be especially out of three of them? Yeah, because he's talking about it. It doesn't make any sense. It does. It really does I I condemn you to the depths of english hell No, it makes a lot of sense Don't know that that felt essentially perfect and honestly it didn't even really need a sequel But here we are so let me begin first the f***ing opening text thing that these movies do I guess now it's a thing How is it? I don't get it. What's this parody? What Like whenever I watch a Whenever I watch a parody of something I'm like, uh, that's what they're doing When I watch a cabin in the woods or something like that, you know, okay Yeah, this is the they're they're doing the thing where they parody the thing I don't know what this is parodying. Who who doesn't like the text crawl? Well Again arguments you've never heard like, ah, they did the text crawl again Like does anyone because the other thing you have to try and do with this is is what is what is that argument similar to What is something that some of us have ever said about the sequels that is about as stupid as that? I'm just like, I don't even know what you're referencing Yeah, I would Like I I think there are repetitious aspects of particularly the sequels and a lot of disney stuff that Make me roll my eyes and say, oh they're doing this again, but It's never something like it's in universe stuff. Well, it's not like Having a cantina again in in uh episode seven You know and that's the whole reason JJ put it there like he's explicit about that if someone's like, oh, I guess we're just There's just cantinas everywhere and that's where every important thing happens That would be probably the closest I could imagine but again still confused I feel like that's based on something As opposed to this we're like, uh text crawls Nobody says this No And this guy obviously doesn't know what he stepped in Well trying to uh parody you so it'd be pretty but I mean there you can there's things you can pick apart about that Like why are the words so far apart? Why is the empire strikes back with a little crooked there? Yeah, and uh if you like all you got to do is just take the flaws of empire strikes back and just I don't know talk at length about them make it sound like it's the worst thing in the world That's probably the way to parody me Time for the alien you mean the people who just destroyed the ultimate power in the galaxy the death star They are again now hiding from the empire No No, yeah, like I so here's the thing you you can destroy one spaceship But the empire the galactic empire is still around They existed before the death star was completed. So now that it's gone. They're back to that square Using that logic if you blew up our what our biggest aircraft carrier then you won the war against america america is defeated We lost an aircraft carrier. Yep That would be quite an accomplishment granted. However, like there's still others And then if you want to try and like what could he possibly be referencing? It's like is it that people did anyone make the argument that it's weird that the first orders show up at the beginning of tlj so strong when we've destroyed the star killer base because I don't think it's not hard to imagine that they had a fleet. I think the weirdest part of that was just they didn't they didn't seem to be Um, it it happened like what the previous night or day or whatever, but it feels yeah, it just didn't happen at all Um, because the the the films are so disconnected. That's the only thing I remember people saying, but yeah, all right That was something Ever fluctuating power level of the first order is always and ever confusing Same people that they defeated How on earth did anyone think that that was a good idea to undo the victory from the last film and then play That star's still gone Yeah, they built on it They they even yeah, I mean they referenced the empire references the fact that the death star got destroyed The emperor talks about how we we're gonna have to build a new one But hey, at least we know what he's referencing with this one And it's the they took away the victory at the end of episode six with the sequel trilogy, which I don't even know how you could Argue that that's not the case. They literally destroyed all of them.  Yeah, they undid everything. It's been destroyed. So There's a bell in the shapes on your eyes. Thanks rebels or new republic. Um, they did great He did a great job Hmm Characters back in the same exact predicament. Honestly, sometimes when I think about this movie, you know, I have to wonder Did everybody involved in this take lsd? Hell, we know that carry fisher was taken lsd. So I don't know In any ways, that's not even the worst thing in this text intro The empire apparently had enough military forces to force the rebels into a pursuit across the galaxy Yeah, they're a galactic empire. You twit I don't understand What part of this is difficult it a galactic empire that rules the galaxy they probably have resources But I'm confused like the parody part. Well, so yeah, so on the surface doesn't make sense But what is he even referencing? I don't know like what who's making these arguments about the sequels like what are you talking about? Yeah, I'm trying to figure out. So I guess the argument is How did the first order get all these resources? But that's not a direct parody and that's not an equal situation because The galactic empire Though especially as we figured out how they started from the end of the clone wars They already had a lot of power to begin with there wasn't anybody left to challenge them But when we see the first order, we understand that at the events at the end of the ot You have the rebellion winning their victorious the empire was destroyed and apparently in that 30 year span They didn't do anything to stop this from happening again um The the understanding that the empire have power as status quo We enter a universe is very different from we come back to a universe after time has passed and for some reason The first order the most powerful thing and all across the universe It is a wonder how they got all their resources It's like well, you got to read the book you got to read Some weird thing that's released by disney that gets contradicted a year later by another book and you're just like, okay And just judging from the movies alone.  They all ignored her lando called for help and it worked Yeah, uh-huh. Well He's just better than she is apparently you know that works um At least I could this is where I mean I'm just looking for where he's drawing the crazy arguments from And then uh, because you have to attack it twice with everything he says because it's satire Like quote-unquote having all that military power defeats the f***ing purpose of the hero saving the day in star wars They did save the day. You could say a day and they're still have an overarching conflict happening Battles versus wars, I suppose Yeah, the whole point of the end of a new hope is that they destroyed the death star Which meant that the rebellion didn't get blowed up on yavin 4 Like they save the day for a lot of people. Yeah, like a planet-deleting weapon getting destroyed. It's like that's a big plus Obviously, it's a new hope. It's essentially them Winning their survival. Yeah Uh, of course doesn't matter and it's it's that's why it's a new it's a new hope because luke's rising the um The rebels on the verge of absolute annihilation Alderaan, which is their political base of power is annihilated And it's essentially them staying alive It's not them going after the whole empire and winning the day Well, maybe it's like a matter of just his expectations have been a bit altered because in the sequel trailer Do you blow up one planet destroying weapon and you've got a thousand more to deal with you know But in this back back in the ot there was just the one Oh, yeah, and this just has like actual impact. Yeah, then they try and build another one not a thousand This is about the rebels being hunted down By the death star this is why the whole part of the plan is getting stolen to give themselves a hope of survival I mean Dude, did you watch star wars? Well That's probably the question you'd have for you You'd be like, why are you complaining about stuff in the sequel trilogy when you know the ot is doing all of it too? So, yeah Maybe we'll get to the point where he demonstrates that the ot did it too Because i'm sure the ot has flaws undoubtedly, but um, I would like them to be pointed out Sure used to see you know a whole video full of them. Look, we're only what like 10%? Really Um Pressing on luke skywalker who is arguably my favorite character from star wars is now the leader of freedom fighters Aka the rebellion not sure why they didn't just say the rebellion We all know it's the rebellion and it ends up being the rebellion in his staff. This is parodying. No Um, this would just be classification Nitpick not even really accurate. You can call them freedom fighters or the rebels Yeah, it's not an accurate fighting for freedom from a tyrannical galactic regime. So they literally are I we're fine with the show calling things the stuff that they are Yeah, all of our arguing against that Maybe These people just want lies That's all they want. They don't want the truth But I get because like I I finally spend a while on the the tax crawl episode seven, right? So that's absolutely what he's gunning for here, but like The tax crawl that there was a tax crawl. Yeah the tax crawl in episode seven obliterates Star Wars it's just like it's just like hey, by the way, all this is true now.  Is he is he trying to say because in the original trilogy there were the rebels and in the sequel trilogy they were the At resistance. Is that what he's trying to parody by nitpicking that that would be against the single So we can't do that Um because the only thing that comes to mind is the fact that most people when talking about the resistance will accidentally say rebels because There's no meaningful difference And of course the the funny part is that The funny part is that the resistance were created before The republic was destroyed, you know, it's just this really weird like Why what why you guys like how are you guys the underdogs when you have all of the power? Um Again, they just wanted to do star wars again Yeah, it's it's just because they wanted to redo the status quo And I think that criticism is very different compared to someone being like oh my god freedom fighters. We call them rebels Okay Another space and another world. Okay, so we are literally back to secret rebel bases on planets and then we just switched Back Saying that in the uh in a new hope the rebels had a secret base and in this one Their base is still also a secret which makes sense because They are the rebels And they don't want the location of their base to be public information Isn't section 31 in star trek where they wear uniforms in our chimps and shit and badges Where there's a secret organization a secret service. Look my uniform says those there's my badge Here's our gps coordinates for our secret base And in line with parody, right the idea there is that we would have said How is it that like everything is exactly the same? after When you start up episode seven they they reverted back because obviously it's a hollow clone of episode four And so he's like oh, I could say that about episode five It's like all you've pointed out is that they still have bases on planets. That's it Yeah, just because you say something doesn't mean you've made a point Everything when I was 10 I understood that everything was different about this movie Including the title that says the empire strikes back. That's a big clue as to the events of the film. I would say um and yeah, you know just uh A lot of these just seem like attempts and then fails But we'll absolutely be hiding behind the idea. It's like it was a joke. I don't think you get it It's the joke is to make fun of people doing stuff like this It's like yeah, but you're not land. It's just not landing Like jokes have Generally, some of the best jokes have that little grain of truth in there You know Like that can I can make a joke really funny like oh, what's the deal with the old airline food? And everyone's like oh, yeah airline food is not great.  Well all all I can get out there so far is people nitpick Right, that's not funny. That's not that's not funny Yeah, the key to a good parody is that I'm using if you want a parody Mola getting mad at someone for making the exact kind of criticism he does I would like to see an example Where I say you caught her fit of the rebels as freedom fighters. That's fucked up Luke into laser as the leader of a little secret cell of heroes, right at this point in my first watch I actually sighed audibly.  Family guy made fun of that I think I think you're right. Yeah, I think they were the ones who actually said that Which isn't like, okay When they made that joke they didn't take it like seriously the person making the joke was like It was one of those eye rolling sorts of things that So even they they were self-aware enough that it wasn't like that big of a deal If we may have any of the names of planets in the sequels, has that ever happened? um um Kanto bike crate No, no, it doesn't really come up Because I'm in fact, I think I've gone as far as saying ex-agol was a cool name for a planet Ex-agol is a cool name for a planet. Yeah, um Yeah, what don't have no idea where this one's coming from or it's connected to got nothing with this one Naboo sounds like it could be a lot of different things I feel like you could use the word naboo for all kinds of different stuff like uh Oh, some some injury or some disease. Would you give someone a naboo? I have to take It's getting into the mindset of this guy. Sorry it like so obviously I'm going to state the obvious here It's always that's what I do on youtube. Anyway, so this guy is coming from a place where the disney trilogy is good This is his opinion. It's not a copy of something else So i'm gonna make a parody of mauler by going after the best star wars movie and try i mean that's Listen, I like his that's a high aspiration. It's gutsy.  Mr. Bad guy was marked out of the death star trench at he wasn't Merked he he flew away What you can see him right there. He's okay He's like oh man. I was I was hit now i'm flying through space And this guy he's gonna get his bearings.   Could this be um What's going on could this be phasma this the this the reference here like people seem like how is she back? Because she would have fallen down the trash compactor and then exploded. So how is she back? I guess she escaped the trash compactor.   He needs to find an example that works in order to to do it Vader doesn't get killed if he did and came back this could work But he didn't And they clearly show you he didn't So yeah, like I said, maybe it's to do with phasma, but I don't do what at the end of a new hope And then he suddenly appeared in empire Oh, how did he get yes, then there'd be some Cause but no, we we see him survive. It was very Obvious that they wanted you to see. Yes Very very deliberate It's also funny to me as well because like nobody cared that phasma was back really ever was just like, oh there she is I guess. All right What should you get a one minute 19 seconds screen time while she dies again Okay, bye All right I remember you that's that that's cap. That's the ultimate. I remember you characters.  So That they desperately are clinging on to apples and oranges, you know The end of the previous film into unending space for all of eternity somehow made his way back to Oh, he's in a spaceship All right This is what it's supposed to be like, wait a minute like he It's not like he's spun away forever. It was stuck Oh, you know, no one talks No one talks about that tie fire that took the shot for vader that tie fighter who who tried to ram to save his life But it was in there, man. What a legend He probably has a he probably got a plaque on the new death star There's gonna be a film about this now This is the you've just heard this gun. We need to make a whole film about that tie fighter That sacrificed their life of vader He was like He'll be the first non-binary storm trooper Yeah No, if they did all that they wouldn't be able to kill him he would have survived Like it it would have he falls out the thing explodes He gets blasted into vader's tie fighter and he's like, oh, thank god And then, you know, that's that's the new history. That was actually darth vader's best friend herbert Storm trooper Herbert was his best friend. They'd been through so much.  He should have said why didn't vader try spinning? That's a good trick. Yeah I want an edit of a new hope where when herbert dies vader goes No Herbert and you dub it so that he's like herbert. Is there anything behind us? And he's like, no sir.  He was my friend. You know vader two days till I retire I'm gonna miss hanging out with you. Yeah, but sir we're too old for this. You're expendable not to me Do we get some f's in the chat for that time? F's for herbert.  You know and a lot of people like oh hun solo my favorite character is like why? why He shot first as well. Yeah. Yeah didn't even didn't even shot him in the back.  I'm so glad he died the way he did in force awakens. Yeah, he deserved it Yeah, I'm glad he got stabbed by his son As hun solo falls the force ghost of herbert is watching him like yes Yeah Fist bump fist pumping. Yeah, I remember those afternoons and vader's pod where he would teach me about the force Wade force choke me force choke me Force choke me daddy Ah Empire stores all fire things. I guess that's where all the fleet was too or whatever. Okay the opening crawl basically No, he's got a tip. He could fly He could traverse space with his spaceship. He could go to his fleet He said, uh, yes He said the opening it went from point a to point b. No, that's ridiculous. That's insane Um, I like that he says the the opening crawl basically do this movie Obviously now the the reference is clear the the would have been to episode sevens Crawl but again There are significant reasons They've destroyed like all of the world building in their opening crawl while this one Basically just says everything you'd assume the empire want to crush the rebels after what they did. You're like, mm-hmm.  Yeah From the start for me any ounce of logic I figured that this movie to go after Oh my god, he said the logic word He doesn't know Zess instantly vanished like my desire to live after finishing watching the empire strikes back So when the actual movie begins, we get another tilt down, you know, just like the previous movie And we venture to the planet hoth and instead of it being a sand desert now It's a snow desert, but I will say no, they're both deserts So a desert is based on the amount of precipitation that it gets So both of these both of these are deserts like Antarctica is a desert The more you know What's um, when is it called a glacier then is it just when it's all frozen? a glacier They're they're totally different things. Um, like when does what when is a Like what's the difference between a glacier and a Are you asking for the definition of a glacier is? Oh, just when you're going to categorize it differently, right? Because like a glacier could be huge and thus when walking on it you'd be like, how do you know you're not on just I don't know isn't a glacier like it's frozen like yeah Okay, like what I wonder where the lines are drawn on how you categorize them, I guess, I don't know The line must be drawn here when it becomes a know like A big giant piece of ice, I guess one singular piece that's as big as a mountain was another way to look for I think as well Yeah, I because a glacier is not really a land It's not ice. It's it's it's more. It's a slowly moving mass or river of ice formed by accumulation in compaction Of snow on mountains or near the poles What about tundra is permafrost what you were thinking of? man, so That's Arctic region. Yes, Asia and North America in which the subsoil is permanently frozen So, yeah, a tundra isn't quite a desert looks like if it's neat Earth is neat this stuff on it. That's neat I I'm glad that this at-at chat gentlemen got us into a discussion about a geographer Because you so about that feel better educated now. Yeah everyone you learned something today I didn't even have to bust out my book of facts. Well, I could though. There's a lot of facts to go through We could start sifting some of those facts about glaciers I don't know. Let me see Is it glossy? Well, I guess it depends on where you're from but there was a two glaciers Above North America. They had names. I forgot them that were at some point two miles thick over It went from coast to coast over. Canada didn't exist. It was under two miles of ice neither did new york I think seattle was under ice too Yeah, and then it all melted within a couple of weeks for a second there I thought you went like there is ice and then there is ice to the sequel to ice to the sequel Disappointing very disappointing. Was that the first the glacier strikes back a glacier the glacier strikes back very slowly That's a bump up the categories. It couldn't just call everything ice ice two ice three ice four ice five It's like no we got everybody's doing this spray um, but Then you could have had an ice ice baby. Oh, yeah So, um, our fact is that the man who commissioned the Mona Lisa refused it Oh, really?   I want an actual I'll make it so you never work again Great thing that did look pretty cool when it popped out of the snow Unfortunately anything that seems like it's actually going to be cool turns out to be anything But and that goes on for basically the entire runtime the minute we see So can you guys think of a time where we've sort of highlighted like oh this thing could be cool But then it doesn't show up ever again. Have we ever said that about anything? Yeah Well, I mean in relation to the sequel trilogy. I'm just trying to think of like what oh the relation to the sequel Yeah That could have been cool Finn's arc this is this is the first time we've ever had to do this by the way like decipher a video Wrong camera turned on hold on look. Oh my goodness. I make blocks go away I thought there you go. This is the robot's part the 40th anniversary of Oh, oh Empire e-fapture I can vaguely see it in the top of the Mandalorian Still giving money to disney are you? Wow I think that the sound effect that is used on the um spy droid here Is uh reused as a sound effect when uh, Mando was walking through navarro one of the Robot critters aliens makes that exact same noise. I think that's just a little Easter egg in there created by strangling a camel. I don't know if you knew that What Yes, because they have those really long throats. So the he's like they go Maybe you're trying to say something and I'm gonna buy a camel just to I want to get them noises from the source do I want to know um Yeah, uh, I I can't think of anything. Oh nights of ran maybe Um Yeah, sure. I'm I guess yeah, are they cool? No, um But like, you know in the in the most superficial of senses They are the dressed all in black have these mysterious weapons. They're a team and they were for the dark side. You're like, oh Like shadow the hedgehog. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, same same thing. They're they're like edgy the hedgy Oh, yeah In the most jar jar abram's way Mm-hmm. I don't think it was really cool. We could have gotten some more of him, right? But again, I don't know that the comparison works because these things are Set up ahead of time It shown being fired out one of them shows landing moving around and then it's destroyed, but it's too late It's already discovered them. It's like it's that's everything that it does. It's a drone Yeah, it's a spy droid. That's what it. Yeah Don't know what to say about that one.  Let me say that again Luke Skywalker is taken out in the beginning of this movie by a 10 foot tall snow Look good. It looked like a monkey at all. Yeah, I would go with gorilla before monkey But I probably wouldn't go with either.  Yeah You got you got yetied. Um Maybe I'm trying to get and thinking like what what could block this because like why would why would anyone complain about him getting Hit by an enormous monster. I don't know Yeah, and I would compare it to that. Yeah, the snowman from like Rudolph the red nose reindeer He looks more like that the bumble bumble's bounce. I mean if it was right, she would have just killed him I was gonna say like what could even be referencing here Like what does rey get taken out by in the sequel trilogy that we all complain about it's like she doesn't get to get to cut an arm She makes weapons disappear when they get to kill it. She had a mild headache She did it would have reached back to swipe at her and instantly just disappeared She wouldn't have even have noticed she would have turned around like she heard something and there'd be nothing Got CGI down.  That's just disrespectful, man Why no, he doesn't think that luke drinking the milk was like there's not there's not an issue with that Oh, I guess you'd have to do the equivalent for the ot which there isn't so Oh, well, you could just have a hard-looking confused um Sure, there's something Something really is cringe-worthy. I don't know. It's hard to find Yeah, okay. Oh, okay. How about it's the uh in the return of the jedi the the CGI um In the band And is he's he's spitting these little tonsils Yeah, we needed that And the worst part about this is the reasoning why any of this even happens It's outrageously convoluted.  I am too. I was thinking the same thing um To the ceiling, okay, and all of this was so that might be the first thing he said that could Actually be something that could be discussed Why why slash how did the monster get him stuck into the ceiling? Um, and all all you can assume is that that's an ability it has because it's a space monster ice sculptor That's obviously On that planet alone.   So he'll be all right So that we could watch luke apparently miraculously discover the power of telekinesis to escape the situation Yeah, this is a criticism a lot of people try to bring up. Um as as like ha ha empire introduced brand new powers too Um the thing I I wish we had more with the newer star wars content is people discovering force powers in a natural Way that already exists as in the powers don't have to be brand new where they just Invent you like if you're a cave and there's an creepy space worm and you put your hand on it and heal its wounds Not you mean naturally like that Yeah, because that's something that we all figured you could just do There don't lie and say you haven't but based off the prequel trilogy Where we have master jedi who have been jedi for hundreds of years in some cases These powers do not exist weird in a new hope Darth Vader chokes somebody so Well, so I guess you could assume if he can Choke somebody how we grab something how does luke know about this like well I mean if if you're desperately reaching for something and you already know you have access to Didn't you use the force to help guide the the missiles into the the death star? Yeah, use the force at the end of the last bit if you've got access to that Knowledge and you're trying to reach for something that's just out of out of out of reach and then yeah That seems like a natural sort of result Yeah, seems pretty simple a little just a little nudge little Little pole. Well, so I don't know what it feels like to have the force, right? I'm gonna be honest with you guys I don't but if you reach for something and you like it's just out of reach You start you start to feel something weird like wait, I feel like it's moving I feel like I have the ability to actually be able to pull it toward me I don't know what that would feel like I got a really bad electric shock once and that felt like I had the force There you go and see that's what luke would have had and he would have been like oh my god I'm pretty sure this is working. I just gotta try harder and then he does the thing where he concentrates and then he does it um, but yeah People Someone needs to write like a PSA for these these people including like hello grito or whoever else is like Force telekinesis. It wasn't a new thing in empire. Okay. Stop stop saying that. Love it. Yeah But he also just make he makes a lightsaber go about two foot He didn't well he'll jesus That's as incredible as moving more weight than yoda ever could um Went went smiling and being casual about it You see That's why when people complain about ray doing things and they don't complain about luke. It's pretty clear. It's a sexism thing It's it's got nothing to do with the actual events themselves How many men are allowed to use the force exactly We should some people weren't really bugged by this and actually people cheered some people were like, yeah That's really cool But I was like just adding powers to already established rules in the universe from nope No, again So the goal he had was people make this argument in the sequels While it already happened in the ot and they just don't see it and that's what this video is trying to do But it's just like you got to use a better example. This isn't one Just just not working in the previous film. It comes off as well We need him to escape somehow So just allow the lightsaber that his mentor gave him to fly into his hand And if someone wants it with the force, yeah, well Jesus has established force powers.  That's true He's not completely sad about himself and healed every one of his wounds Reasonable explanation if they ask us we can just say well that's how the force works Guyna sounds to me like a way to get around bad storytelling. Oh, that's how this has been established to work But see isn't this video scathing can't you see yourself now? Is it all becoming clear lads? This is what you do to the sequels. Do you get it? Accurate Pack it up moller. Well, that's the thing. It's just like but my references are accurate. Yours are autism So, yeah, I don't know the moment just didn't work for me I think it was super weird and then even when luke escapes his situation. He again ends up He does kind of yeah, it's a bit of majorly in there Which is probably not doing good for him So maybe it's the same person Oh in the snow almost dead and out of nowhere Obi-Wan Kenobi appears as a ghost Yes, he appears as a ghost to tell luke that he needs to go train some more on another planet by somebody else Another Jedi master. So initially that was intriguing in an original trilogy where we're establishing rules I mean, Obi-Wan already contacted him post death. So yeah, he already spoke to him at the end of Well, he spoke to multiple times in When he died when he told luke to get on the falcon and then when he was trying to stick the You know, he's dicking the hole at the end on the death now I just went use the force Time luke it's not worth it So it's it's already been established that ben kanobi is in contact with luke in a spiritual way And again, it's an original trilogy set set its rules and um, we should be doing is he needs to be attacking the the prequel trilogy Because that's the one that didn't build upon the rules That's the one that literally took the rules of the original trilogy and just kept it in the prequels So now that the sequel trilogy comes along and wants to create new rules That's not the original trilogy's fault. It's the prequel trilogy's fault for not building You it's all very strange as well because he's not even picking like the example. I think most people would go with is um The like force communication between people like with luke and lair at the end of empire Maybe he'll bring that one up, but uh gun info telekinesis and contact with obi ones like yeah, both these things happened in the first one and the idea That's like well, we couldn't see obi ones ghosted the first one. It's like what difference does that make like At all it literally has no effect and there's no reason to assume it wasn't possible like Him him being a blue light doesn't do anything We're gonna see another jedi master potentially but again Whatever was gonna be cool about that was instantly destroyed the second it happens and we'll get to that So why didn't all Look, I am lost.  It's not sci-fi.  Well, you know again It's the empire like it has all of its own problems too. So maybe maybe maybe the attitude you have against the sequels Some of them. Yeah any second now All of that need to even happen in order to get to the moment where obi one decides to tell luke Since you are dying right now and stuff. It's probably a good idea that you get some more training Why the hell didn't the ghost of obi ones show up at any other time between these two films? Right and just tell luke go get some more training by somebody, you know I mean, there could be any kind of rationalization for that There's no reason to do it or to not do it at any possible time. How do you know when it's supposed to happen? How do you know that it's not worthwhile for luke to stay with the rebellion for a while first? And start getting experience in combat and leadership Before moving on to being trained.  I don't know Not quite, you know, it's been years apparently between the first and second at stomping Yeah, and also if he if he would have told luke to go to this place earlier It means that he wouldn't have been here with the rebellion during this time. Exactly. So all right.  It would probably be the kind of force power that you would first discover you have on accident Yeah, like I said, he's he's reaching for it. You'd probably feel something's up You'd be like, whoa, I feel like I feel like if I really push on that stuff happens Especially because what did you notice at the end of the new hope to get the fucking dick in the hole exactly And you got in this movie in an empire right after yoda lifts the x-wing out of the swamp Luke says like wow, I didn't think it was possible and yoda says that is why you fail Hmm Could have even been in the title scrolling thing saying luke had learned more about the force I don't know nobody's thinking when making these movies Even if he didn't learn anything else about the force, this makes sense Well, it's just a very rudimentary sort of power that you would probably pick up by accident Well, the consistent through line is he'll highlight a thing and then he'll have like a crazy Exaggerated conclusion that comes right after like oh my god. This is the worst thing ever And also This guy in the end of tlj does he not remember broom boy who just pulls a broom to him casually with the force Well, that's the joke though, isn't it that he thinks that's okay While we're the ones that He's making fun of that would complain about stuff like that.     I don't care. Maybe maybe if you clone a force user They just get to be more powerful in the force than you which is weird, but I don't know why the force You know Darth Vader. Oh god All right, so if you apply all that criticism to the ot at fulls a pot too just so you know Luke is actually a clone of someone else who's never mentioned It Don't give him ideas. What are you doing? Hey looks pretty sometimes and I can sell a toy now when we talk about the base on hoth So the toy reference I assume would be to the the pokes again, but they literally only exist to sell toys.  You have to try again with that one Although he's sort of like the protagonist. So I'm not in the water protagonist so they can make toys of him Shameless it it's literally the snow version of yavin 4 except it's yavin 4 and tattooing combined How different do you want this hanger to look?  It's a lot better than going to another desert planet and then just renaming the desert planet We'll see that's what he's making fun of it. I'm guessing so he's like this is just yavin and tattooing but with snow And he's he's he's making fun of someone saying Exactly that's what I mean. It doesn't work when you say like, oh god another desert planet with someone Who's like having to work hard every day to be able to make some kind of living in dreams of escaping the planet It's like damn.  Oh our original And then if he's referring to the fact that a lot of people will like crate is just half 2.0 I'm pretty sure it's the whole point of crate is to fully reference half like it's pretty shameless about it They're just like, I mean, they have a scene where they have to say definitely isn't snow guys. This is not snow It's not half I Hope though, is that is that a joke that I'm missing He's mispronouncing on purpose. I guess. Yeah, he's doing Which is a parody of warts Why didn't he capitalize killed by the way in the title that's kind of bothering me that is odd I don't maybe it's because It's the only non-proper noun in there But that would that would still be the title and it's not an in the or Yeah Yeah, capitalize the whole thing you're right. You know, it'd be very dramatic. We're just nitpicking. This is exactly we're proving his With our Going to work out the the hoes Yeah, I suppose Making fun of people who do not know the pronunciations of certain words and in ips that they claim to be fans of Is that maybe the idea there? Like no idea. I'm just saying yeah in reference to what it's actually pronounced to yavin if We need to be carried by you're parodying the obvious You're not you're not parodying this subtle because you won't get the reference Well, the funny thing is if you're like, oh, you know more I'll pay a million dollars make an unbridled rage about info strikes back I'd be like I can't though There's no there's not enough material to make a video with there's not enough problems that I can actually Talk about that ruin the structure of the film. There isn't this just not enough An unbridled observation of potential things that might not be perfect And that's why if you try and make one you'll end up with this. We are like Fucking snow base In a ridiculously hilarious thing to me once we get inside and see everybody and I didn't notice this initially with luke Is that everybody is wearing ski goggles? Did george really think that no one in the theater? Yeah, so here's the thing So when you're out in the arctic where the The temperatures are dangerously low What this does it actually does two things notice that all those goggles are tinted, right? So You can get snow blindness. Yeah, which is because the snow is white which is a very it's white and reflective And when the sun hits that it can get very very very bright Um, so you want to cover your eyes with something so that you're you don't get exposed that brightness for too long Now also because it keeps the insanely cold wind from getting in your eyes Um, which will make them tear up, which is not something you want on your face. You don't want moisture on your face I'm really really cold Surely that's not the point he's making right. He's not actually saying there's no use to have goggles What is what is he saying? I don't know I don't know what what he's trying to parody Yeah, because now i'm thinking like what have we made fun of clothing wise in the sequel trilogy The raised costume, but basically he's the same from start to finish, which is just true. That's not like a woman at all Which is true. Yeah, which is true women love to wear the most extravagant of things not just the same thing But a different color that's that's just lame. They're trying to compensate for queen amadala's wardrobe Yeah, they're not quite they didn't quite get there did they they they tried um I maybe raise like a college girl who always wears sweats. I don't know Looking at gigantic projections of images wouldn't see that he is just using regular asky goggles as part of his costume design I don't know All you need is regular asky goggles Why would a universe concrete goggle? Well, of course, it wouldn't make sense for the star wars universe that have humanoids To generate something that would match something we use as humanoids. That would be weird It's extremely effective and cheap. They wouldn't use that.    I just feel like that's awkward compared Um, that was that scene so bizarre.  You guys just like right here Like we don't clean this up. Also this axe is two blades So there's gonna be like a little disc of neck that'll just be flopping around on its own What a weird who came up with this I didn't sign up to be the executioner stormtrooper And that's the thing like it's a really quick comment in my in my series because I just remember being like Oh, you gotta just have laser everything.  Like, why have you done this? You try to shoot them Yeah You're good When he executes hugs in an episode night.  It was like, yeah, do that. That's way better It's actually cleaner too. Yeah, no must no fuss.   No, those are welding So in the future, they don't want sparks and scrap, you know In shrapnel while you're welding and doing engineering work to get in your eyes and blind you Yeah, that's a little too close to how he is pretty lazy Why isn't the gag that Chewie is welding when he's made out of fur? how How interesting it because yesterday I had to do some Dremel work Actually, uh to repair something that my uh my grandparents place how odd that the first time I ever use one of those tools Um and have to wear the goggles and everything. Yeah covered in the next day We're talking about this stuff on eFap when it's never come up before ever. What an interesting coinkie dinky That's the bad writing of planet earth for you. Yeah cat. It's a contrivance God, what are you doing, buddy? He's like right now. My life is very poorly written. Mm-hmm 2020 written by bad robot.   Nothing happened in In the environment So again to do the two types of response first surface level So he's already gone over the things that have happened in the first 25 minutes Partially so it's like this says doesn't make sense some sound in in the form of This is making fun of people who say it The only thing I can think of will be referenced here would be kanto bite saying that all of kanto bite was pointless but it was So everything that is achieved through the plot line of kanto bite is undone by the end of kanto bite That's why people consider it a waste of time. Nothing happens Like what's the argument for for empire exactly? I don't know. Yeah Again, just they don't quite work Gotta try harder than this a lot of nothing is happening for a whole lot of this movie Also, this rebel base sequence uses the same shot twice But they flip it horizontally as if we weren't gonna notice. Yeah, we noticed and it feels cheap. Oh, I never noticed that If that's the case then If that's the case then uh Never knew that Interesting, but you know, I'll allow it because you know, I will admit Compared to some other things that didn't quite destroy the entire movie, but you know, he's right Yeah, I yeah good. We finally I mean we're a third of the way over a third of the way through But he pointed out something that yeah is a legitimate criticism. Absolutely has no bear It is it is an epic. However, it is a correct So bravo. We did one correct thing in seven minutes. They repeated the shots and flipped it. All right. Yeah, also He needs to scoot man Run out of time. Yeah. Yeah, you're running out of time by dude.  Who knows?  No What Han and what I mean this do you you realize how this movie ends? Well with Han saying that And Leia's saying that they love each other So again, go in. I love you. No, he says I love you. She says I know Just go into this level. Um, yeah, you have you know in Jedi. She flips in Jedi I would actually argue that a new hope makes it pretty clear that it's gonna be Han just just from a strictly about the movies where um He's like, do you ever think a girl like that would fall for a guy like me and then it looks like no And he just smiles and I feel like that's a signal to the audience like Hmm What'll all happen there? Hmm And then he has forced matchmaking. I would call this scene a red herring for relationship tisms The relationship building on in on hoth. Sorry hoth With Leia and and Han Solo is absolutely fantastic. Oh, yeah, they don't waste a line of dialogue between those two It's so it's so kind of intriguing and she's try she's trying so hard Not to give anything away and he's being extra pushy because he knows it and it just makes for a great dynamic and it's brilliant So it's basically rape The funny thing is what I was thinking of my head Like as you said just the reason why it's funny. It's because I was thinking of saying back to as like Yeah, they don't just they just don't write characters like that anymore that he's like, it's basically rape It's like, yeah, that's probably why because he is pushy in um in the ot Yeah, he's he's pushy. Yeah, he chases after her. He's he's trying to court her and it it makes for what I I think most would agree is passionate scenes between them Yes, a lot of people don't like to acknowledge the fact that women like uh, they they like it when a man shows interest in pursues them Yes, gonna be uh, yeah, it's kind of a Well, normal women do it's just the normal women Twitter that keep Me to me to you Well, I mean Han would have been me tooed for sure Yeah, oh, yeah Uh, see three people interrupting that kissing would have taken a photo posted it to Twitter and been like this This was unacceptable. I will not work on this. It would be colored rainbow Okay, wouldn't it just been a red arm? It would have been a pink leg and a blue torso and a green head yellow yellow Devon afro What? Give him a tail human cycle relations supports trans rights We must breathe the drawings. Oh no, I've been blown up. Oh god. I love so much I'm not sure why it was cut But even the trailer for the empire strikes back hinted at their secret romance My guess is that this whole Han and Lea thing throughout this film is more or less just a misdirect to us So in Luke what it's like the plot line for them. What do you mean? Yeah You can't make their claim. Also how they feel I got no clue. Is this going to be referencing then? Ray not falling for Finn when everyone expected Here to there was a couple of confusions about that a lot of people wanted Poe and Finn to end up together if you remember Wow, I don't know if they wanted it was just I think it was more of a You know another another virtue signaled out on twitter. It's just like why can't we have Finn and Poe together? Well, of course because they only spent A grand total of what like two minutes together something like that. Um, it's just that they got Each other immediately You know, yeah, I don't I don't know why ray didn't fall for the guy who's most famous for constantly screaming her name right Why would you love me So the great thing is and I want to mention this one If ever we have majorly back on on e-fab when he came on before right Skywalker came out He told us he couldn't wait for the romance between Kylo and ray to continue in rise of skywalker and and rags and I was just like what What are you talking about? Like what robots and they kissed? Like wait a minute. What's so I guess, um, maybe there was some people are upset the Kylo and ray got a moment where Finn and ray did not is that what this is possibly referencing? I don't know. She's a homicidal maniacs What can I say? Genocidal maniacs.  Wait, we're talking about It's it's an analogy to the alcohol and critical drinker's liver I was actually talking to a drinker. I wasn't that wasn't an e-fat man Critical crinker, how you doing alive? Well, hello. Hello. How is everyone? We're all right despite We're watching a video that's talking about the flaws of empire strikes back. Isn't that yeah, this is an amazing parody Should be a short video they now would imagine. Unfortunately not it feels very long though Well, it's it's it's really, you know, it's hard to give you all the context. It's been a ride But it's a parody How far into have you gotten? Oh, we are seven minutes out of 18 Oh, okay, and it's yeah, it's simultaneously a parody of me by the way Yeah I mean in theory, this is a parody of moller and e-fap and the stuff that we say but Um, if you didn't tell us that at the beginning we might have not even have noticed You want to um hit the link jump in you can you can ride this wonderful adventure along with us I'm excited about this. I don't want this to end. So, uh, let's see All right, cool. Just give me a second to jump in. All right. Well, I need the loo while you do that Wow weak bladder Yeah, I know I piss myself here at the desk. Yeah, that's what I do Yeah, you got to have your uh, you're like just bottles empty bottles ready to go Fill it up and they can act as fuel cells for your p-powered cars and stuff in the future That's the only thing we're going to be able to drive here in california. So We'll be able to use fuel past, uh, what 2035 no Internal combustion engines. Damn loud. Yeah Uh, california will be, you know mad max By the by that time anyway, it's pretty nuts because I I didn't realize like the so many people were leaving california I didn't I didn't actually know that was like a huge thing because this is getting a lot of coverage now It's just like yeah, it's a huge problem.  Um, it is nuts While rags is peeing I guess a drink. Did you manage to check out uh invisible man? Oh, I saw that you did While you're in the bathroom, uh, yeah, there was an invisible man in my bathroom.  He gives you a grade at the end No, I could tell he was embarrassed Oh Yeah Makes it like you need to drink a little more water He's he's um, no, I I drink water all the time when I pee it's basically it's just It is water. Essentially. It's just in and out with me. That's why I take so many bathroom breaks during e-fap because I'm just Just chugging through. I'm like a fish Did what in and out that water?  He's already drunk. He's already conked. He's already slumped over on the floor passed out Hope he fell on his side. I don't want anything bad to happen. Yeah, don't jomb on him So rags does piss with the door open What that's what that's what james mulger said i'm assuming the invisible man was in the room and the door was closed Yeah, or he followed very closely behind me Mm-hmm Or he stepped over me while I was going inside He could just be in there all the time waiting that's my um Call of duty war zone thumbnail I use for me drinker Like is his bottle. That's actually pretty good.  You've got it. You've got to go You've got to go this cigar approach and really clamp down on that with your tea. Yeah That's a muscle you've been working on, you know I'm not gonna ask how you got your lip muscle so strong but Well, well, you're not the only invisible man that hangs out in bathroom.   Invisible man, uh, no, I haven't seen it yet. I've been watching Bly Manor So I'm gonna watch it some more night or something. We're supposed to be doing it What like the 28th or something we're gonna be doing a stream on it. Yeah. Yeah All right, I'll for sure get it watched before then No How you find in Bly It's good.  So if you get them both watched up by then Well, I'm planning to talk to you.   We could do both. We could do Invisible manor Yeah, I'm yeah, I mean we we can touch upon Bly Manor. Yeah, so I'm sure we'll find a way to work around it Um meanwhile so I don't even know how to get you into into gear for this this video is He's created what he believes would be a video like in my style But on empire strikes back while simultaneously trying to prove the point that empire suffers in the same ways that The sequel trilogy do if you were to apply your criticism equally does Oh, it's that old argument of like well, the the original trilogy has some flaws So that makes it just as bad as the sequel trilogy. Yeah, that is perfect Shit. Yeah, nothing in between. Okay. Cool. That that pretty much sets the tone for this video then Let me know if it's not playing for you You can lay a finally do fall in love and whatever next entry comes out. It will feel earned I mean, let's be honest. Leah ending up with Han is a ridiculous scenario and very problematic No matter what happened in this movie He's not I don't think he's gonna support again. You might try which could be funny, but I you know, we'll see Don't they have quite a well-developed like romantic tension that builds throughout the movie I just said that yeah, okay, sorry, but again No, they did have this thing build up and he's trying to pretend that Yeah, if if it doesn't make sense on a surface level way Then it has to just be referencing something that someone has said about the sequel trilogy And I just don't I don't know what this one would be Like oh, wow, these two shouldn't be ending up together. It's like you're referencing Kylo and Rey because I think he's trying to say that She's the princess and Han solos The smuggler the vagabond The naughty guy So how can they get together?  That's crazy Women like uh, extremely safe very nervous soft spoken passive Beta types, that's what women really like.  I was like, uh, it is five. I will have you know Five, sorry, my mistake. The Chad five He just blew them all up. He's so cool Also, he killed his dad He's off the hook for kajimi because he had his change of heart And yeah, are there even is there another relationship in the sequel trilogy other than those two?   Maybe he feels as though It's like oh, it was very clearly set up Where rose sexually assaults fin Um, yeah, all of it man. All of it's so weird. I don't even like nobody understands it not even fin did Where um, I'm so low it's uh, luke's x-wing out the way to stop him from blowing up the dead star because Say what we love His all around gets blown up in the back Oh You know, um, if you just just picture him being like, oh my god See if if more made it about this or if any of you guys made it about this This is the kind of stuff you'd be saying it's like, but there's just no references. There's nothing. There's just Why would anyone say this about empire? I don't understand make an argument So you sound kind of close to it Help us Is the cool guy but also the bad boy that sometimes does the right thing and that's really it moving on one of the scenes When did kylin do the right thing?  So Yeah, it's a sign of a good man.  You could do anything.  Like, yeah They didn't have a plan Meanwhile, they came out. Yeah The ot characters like why do you think the ot is so popular?  Yeah Act is han going out searching for luke who was taken by the weird tall snow monkey thing, right? Remember han is literally told that his horse goat thing Will die if he's out in the blizzard for too long by other rebels, right? Of course, somehow this blizzard doesn't kill people. It only kills horse goats The people have like clothing and technology and stuff like that Yeah, this one doesn't like han has a camp to set up. He says that you could see it when they get The rescuer in that shot. He's got a camp And he has to put luke inside the tauntaun in order to keep him live long enough to set the camp up And luke was on the verge of death from hypothermia and han Yeah, it's a really big important moment to showing you how much han cares about him He's willing to actually potentially die just to save him Yeah, you say we're not leaving without a luke. I would think this uh, you'll get stranded out there and he's like Again, my question is what's his point and what's the parody?  That's a plot hole. See I could do it too You just said you're like, okay calm down. You're okay Quentin probably had a five hour garfield video to make so I'm sure like he had bigger bigger fish to fry Oh, absolutely. Well, he um, he originally was going to do a big response to me But he said he like you just couldn't be asked eventually All right.  Well, he he sneaked it into uh, IHE's video, didn't he? Uh, which I always assumed like the the idea there is just like I don't want to snipe you directly I'll snipe you from the side There's someone else's video that I won't that I'll go off script for Um Quentin's a bit of a snake Okay, Luke who escaped the monkey has passed out after seeing the hallucination of obi-wan Kenobi And then he's saved by Han in the most ridiculous way ever Han cuts open the dead horse go its belly with a f***ing lightsaber Yes, I guess anyone can switch on lightsabers now. Why wouldn't they be able to play at the button? It's a button you press the button you can if you can if you can use a blaster you can switch on a lightsaber I would imagine Han couldn't create a lightsaber No, but he can press the button and turn the thing on Yeah, and I I could quite easily buy that you could use it as a tool to use to do simple things like that without any difficulty But look at the way he's holding it Because he doesn't know how to you know wield a sword so he's even holding it like, you know I'm trying to think about like what he could be rafferting. So is it the we're like how the f*** is rey so good with a lightsaber And is that is that like what he's angry at in this moment Han could turn this one on That's that's what I mean every time you try and find an equivalent in the ot you have to stretch it to unbelievable limits See like Being able to turn on a lightsaber is just the same as beaten luke skywalker in hand to hand combat with the lightsaber It's just the same level of skill required Oh, that's what I honestly think that's what they see when they see us doing that They're like, oh my god.  I don't think anyone did No It's not like an rpg where oh you have to have force level to unlock to use this weapon Or you this weapon can't be used by your class or something like that No, it's an object that you could use your fingers and you can press the button and it turns on Yeah Like people have gone over to blasters because they're easier to use and they're arranged weapons and that they're more like practical In most senses, but force users are able to wield lightsabers to such a level that they can deflect blaster bolts Yeah, that's why they become useful like a normal person couldn't do that So the yeah, just be a tool Yeah Like if like if you needed to cut open an animal a pretty useful tool, I think Yeah, yeah, and Well, and when fin fired it up and fought kylo ren he had I mean even though he was a janitor He had military training you would expect him to fight and that established that Kylo ren was powerful and then ray promptly kicked his ass afterwards. Of course. She did. Why would she not? So remember he was shot. That's perfectly. Okay. Yeah Remember that he's like literally dancing around with her with his sword is like he was shot That's why she looked one. Yeah, it wasn't that she got some kind of weird. She downloaded the force from him and you know It depends who you speak to You'll find out the reason she won because it's all different accounts. She practiced with her stick before The way it's shot She's actually in the position that the antagonist would normally be in during that fight There is literally that point where she knocks him to the ground after injuring him And she's like the camera's on her and she's like pacing Around him. Yeah. Well, he's struggling to get back up.   No, we're rooting for her Where do we go from here?  Like luke when luke first turned on the jedi and Turned the jedi when luke first turned on the lightsaber in a new hope He just pressed the button and the blade came out. Yeah And he was just he's a jedi rags in the future, but still Nobody says this He shoves luke into the goat horse's belly and then he constructs a tent somehow So that they can sleep and I what do you mean constructs a tent somehow?  It must just be The general sort of concept of nitpicking like that must be what he's aiming for with this.  Like what are you? What are you talking about? He sounds like humans go to Antarctica, right? Well, does it Everything else will die if it doesn't have technology technology and equipment and engineering They're thermally insulated and they're portable heaters. Oh, they don't freeze the death Hmm. I mean, Han just makes the snow for it. Maybe NASA made it regardless the No, this is a this is a this is a culture. This is a society where intergalactic space travel is possible Right.  I don't know Two of them are saved and brought back to the rebel base But to be fair the sequence with these new ships in the intro searching for Han and Luke felt like a ride to me at certain moments While this movie is a vapid shell of what the first film was It is visually impressive and I will also say that the score is very exciting to listen to But unfortunately this film relies on how powerful the score sounds to give these astoundingly dull scenes a motion Up next Luke's in a diaper. I keep saying it. Everyone took lsd while making this movie Whoever envisioned this diaper tank of horrors should be removed from hollywood Okay I don't I mean So we're doing the thing where we try to figure out what's wrong with it in the movie and what it's parodying Both up with zero Is this the the hold-o dress Maybe or is this the is this the fin like wet suit thing? in Last Jedi the suit that we just like yeah, he's walking around. It's just it's just leaking everywhere And it's like how funny is that?  Yes.  However, we're not gonna have you on the poster Well, they also they had to be he was bumbling. That was his main thing Yep, and uh, like I said, do you remember when he wakes up in TLJ? He wakes up shouting right led around by his chinese master That's your metaphor for disney right there.  We were concerned that he was even alive But yeah, I guess this is funny now because this guy this guy essentially sacrificed himself to protect rey and could have suffered major spinal injuries Based on that lightsaber swipe the pluridum, but now it's just like look at the funny man in the wetsuit thing That was so cheap. He's like look at that sliced him on his spinal cord.  It's cheap cheap laughs cheap drama Cheap cheap beats. You don't like your mama jokes I do I do in like early 90s sitcoms movie, but not so much in my mainstream star wars movies Yeah, it's a bit weird when they did that. Yeah, it's just a bit flat For the remainder of human existence I also laughed out loud in my theater when luke got sucked up out of it It made me think of a gustus bloom going through the chocolate river A gustus bloom. Isn't it glump? bloop gloop No, three said gloom Why did he say bloom?  I'm just confused now too many woods He can't even get this all the movies he reviewed. He mentions he's wrong with maybe he's doing on purpose.  Could be I also did laugh at chewie just staring around at everyone, you know watching everything unfold around him It's like he's looking at them all like wow humans are kind of stupid So after this the film actually sort of starts to pick up and the pace is pretty good for a while Which was nice because feeling alive is something that I enjoy those probe droids from earlier Finally display their true purpose which to be frank. I thought was pretty smart the probe if Interfaced with would self-destruct sending a signal back to wherever the empire is so far. I think that was the smartest thing No, it's not it doesn't send the signal back to the empire if it explodes I found something interesting Yeah, I think it's almost suggested that like I guess it just wanted to say hi to the empire at them Oh my god, um So again on the surface No, uh, then what does he try to parody? Maybe like people who point out good writing Where they've just misunderstood something. I don't know If that's the goal, uh I'm coming to the rapid conclusion. The guy doesn't understand the word Oh, for sure. Well, I mean no, of course I mean in this case is he is he Having to go at the criticisms of the first order for being monumentally dumb In their military strategy and it's like, well, this is this is just the same example of it I mean, it's also weird that he's like, this is the scene where he's discovering the purpose of the probe droids I was like, wasn't it clear what it was doing from the second you saw it launch from a star destroyer down to the down to hoth Yes I think so pretty clear in the film in three people to write it next up We finally actually see the extent of the empire's random mass fleet of doom that's pursuing the rebellion Maybe it's just me But I thought the fact that the ships are all facing random directions was hilarious and perhaps sending the wrong message That these people all have no idea what they're doing So God trying to get So the idea that they're all facing different directions therefore Accidentally sending the message that they don't even know what they're doing And you pointed out it had to be written by three people I don't know. Is that from the criticism that ryan johnson wrote Alas Jed I and it was his first draft and we were complaining about that It seems pretty tactically logical that if you have a star destroyer that We've only seen them move forwards, you know, because our engines are behind them that you would want them all to be facing all directions especially if you're there to make sure that An enemy force doesn't escape so no matter what direction they go you could follow them It's space. There's lots of directions Yeah ships have to maneuver around each other especially during fleet maneuvers And they may have to go in different directions. They don't all just point in exactly the same one God forbid that this is supposed to be a reference to when we would all complain about the space chase in tlj You know, the fact that you could just send a star destroyer ahead Like please don't tell me he's like see that's on the level of saying this stuff. I just feel like Is it is it a reference to like the the sith not knowing which way is up one x ago? Yeah, maybe See like But do you see what he was like? Oh find similar criticism in empire. It's like, uh, those ships are facing the same direction Damn, you got him. You ruined it. You you've nailed it. The empire would never recover from these criticisms I don't know and rather than the dark. There's just a really really really really really Really big star destroyer and in this one. That's where our main man vader resides He's just watching a fleet move around in space in utter chaos It's not chaos that the scene right before this they were in formation traveling in the same direction together I mean all the probes out. They've sent probes out to various parts of the Galaxy anyway, so they might just be facing whichever direction the probe was sent in or That's the way that we're saying. Okay.   I'm super curious as to what all those tithe fighters are also doing zipping around To what do you say about those three because those three rule face in the same direction Well, again, there's the constant defense of are you falling for it?   He's just taking it to an extreme degree while kylo I'll never forget that bow, but it rises cowardly where he's that guy is like, hey, uh You know what what's what's the effort doing?   Um So like what do they want from you? Are they are we gonna be in super space debt?   We can't afford this Like wow, I've seen our stocks and of everything. It's everything's going up. Is everything's great We got this huge on me. What did he ask for you? I think I was like, what did you just ask me? He's like, oh, no, I was just curious about the deal. Like what kind of deal was this?  He's like, you know, I'm just talking to ask you questions I don't know why they just gave us an army of planet destroying ships just like that. What do you mean? It's suspicious Does you needed the moment where they just go? Why are we here? What is the point? Like what what do we do? We just we just approve of you cutting heads off people Yes, so Because I mean that last one was a banger. Yeah, I'm sure I guess Vader wasn't petty though. He killed the first General because he jumped the gun and gave rebels a chance to Muster an escape Whether he would immediately have reported back to vader Then they would have all arrived at the same time and taken rebels by surprise Yes, the second time when they got away This guy here Said that I will take responsibility for this Which by the way, if you picture that He thought would yeah The idea being that like so all vader knows is that we're currently chasing the millennium falcon with three star destroyers and a bunch of TIE fighters like okay, and then he comes in and says we lost it Like what do you mean you lost it? It's like we lost it. I'm sorry He said I'll take full responsibility and then vader kills us.  Well, this is I mean the criticisms just aren't even remotely the same But they like to pretend that they are it's like it's just not Honestly, it's like the only tension.   I thought that was weird, but in a good way Yeah, it's not like scary. You're just like, okay.   I mean that blew us blew me away when I was a kid and I watched that Oh, we got to see a piece of vader right there, you know And because we it was an interesting character. It was something we were invested in nothing Uh, nothing that the disney trilogy gave us unfortunately and I hate to use the same But the his whole baseline is wrong because they're obviously not on equal ground. No so I just keep looking back actually to how disappointing it was when Hello ren takes off and it's just adam driver's face Yeah, it's like, uh, that's what you know Better look better The face reveal with that It's just to be adam driver's face would have worked When he was with han solo at the end Yeah That's when it would have meant something because we would have had this guy in a mask all the way through And then han says let you know, I want to see your face ben You know don't want to look in the eyes of a mask when looking your eyes And then he takes the the helmet off and you realize that it's just a guy underneath not Me, you know malformed. It's not there keeping him alive or anything. It's a little malformed You know leave him alone with that You know It's all to boost him that's that's where it would have worked not just taking it off for the sake of showing Ray for a you know a snog two films later I think the only alternative to that would have been pretty great It would have been uh jar jar binks under the mask How would you fit underneath that nista don't know They play it all out the same way like like hard treats it really seriously every character does nobody nobody addresses He is just a rubble that when he takes the helmet He's a your humble servant Finally we get to the My god, he's about to cover the battle when we're in the last Sweet movie which is in the beginning and it wasn't actually too bad to watch my only issue Oh, yeah, what's wrong with the battle in the beginning? I don't know A lot of movies start off with a battle sequence or a fighter action piece at the beginning Did anyone ever say that about tlj? It's like, why does the battle happen at the first part? Did anyone anyone here say that ever? I don't know I didn't that wouldn't have even occurred to me is something to say. Nope I'm doing a big confuse right now Yeah, obviously with the with empire, you know, you get the the big Battle of armies and equipment and all that sort of thing at the beginning Then the battle at the end is like more of an emotional character driven one So you get it's front loaded with action, but then there's much bigger emotional payoffs at the end So it works both ways Well, um, yeah, like I said, this isn't much of a bout. This is a route as well. So Battle of hoth was the fact that the empire used these like animalistic machines Which sure they look cool But why on earth would this be a vehicle that a military would use for a ground battle? Sorry an iconic piece of machinery which still today is uh Revealed Channel's name again, sorry because I'm kind of In the same boat to a degree Um, okay, so yeah Bombers Yeah, so what he's referencing here would obviously be the the bombers like everyone's being so critical of the bombers when look at the The ot you could be critical of the designs in that so the pros of the 80 80s Are the they're heavily armored and the goal is to destroy the shield generator And you can't do that from above you have to do it from the ground But of course They're all terrain obviously Yeah from the name so right but the legs allow them to go across really difficult You know The question is something like you know what it is a little confusing Exactly like what are the what are the limits here? Like could you If the shield generator prevents any Shit from getting into to hoth so you have to send these guys in it's like so there is a place where Sort of enemy vehicles can Get into this area. So what if you had a tie fighter? I don't know fly really low could it could it then get in and if it couldn't like why can they not but the 80 80s can and if you can Surely the empire probably would have possibly had better better things to use than the 80 80s. Maybe I don't know Um, I think there's room to discuss something there. The 80 80s are a little bit strange to me in terms of The empire's resources versus what they use. I mean they work really well. So it's not like But we don't know how how we don't know the the radius really do with the shield generator No, it's it's not entirely clear.  You're putting a um ship down there What's that gonna do nothing? So you put you put the 80 80s down there and then they come through It's mostly a design of white of all the designs of a land Um, you like a land vehicle Why this We're missing the big point the big the problem with the bombers and the big criticism of the bombers Is they're dropping bombs in space? Oh, I wouldn't I wouldn't want to imply for seconds that mothers make as much sense of the bombers The bombers are way stupider. Oh, the this they're getting picked off left right in center. They are actually useless These are not designed to be useless I don't think this is a good design, but it's functional the bombers are Shockingly poorly designed in many ways. Meanwhile, the 80 80s are just there's just a couple questions I have about them only a few and the fact is the 80 80s get the job done Like pretty well. Yeah, yep So, uh, and we see the 80 80 later, uh and um return of the jedi on um And oh I can see there's plenty of pros to the 80 80 I just wonder if there was any other things the empire could have done in this scenario Like I said, I'd have to re-watch it and find it Exactly what the limits are of the shield and how it works, but I just wonder Could they have flown a typhoid to Down put it on a platform pass it through whatever the shield is that the 80 80s do as well Then just fly it over to the I mean it could have been shot down I don't know. It's an interesting thing to just just have a chat about But the idea that this is on the same level as the fucking bombers in tlj like really They're like super slow They they One half a typhoid to destroy three of them Yeah, yeah, I think if you're gonna have a slow-moving Bomber like that then it has to be heavily armored like the 80 80s are and When they're not and because it needs to have it for the plot Yeah And it still wouldn't move slow Unless they just yeah, it makes no sense. Yeah, there's no reason. There's much sense of bombs popping in space Do you know, um, I don't even know how many you guys know about this. I know rags do about it, but uh The obvious suggestion is like where the y-wings why aren't they using y-wings and uh Just writes counter-argument to that is most people don't even know what a y-wing is A y-wing's a bomber Yeah, you don't need to know what a y-wing is. That's the important part. You don't need to know what it is. That's not even They don't know what this old thing we've established is so we'r