If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, whoa, just Justin Adam and I. Noises. Rambled for 51 minutes. Do our current events intro. We start off with talking about our trip to On It. We do a little recap. We talk about the good and the bad. Adam may have taken way too many supplements. He threw up like a dragon. Way too many supplements. We talk about Splenda's new product. Looks like natural is now in style. And then we talk about 50 cent. Long hair. Not the half dollar, but the wrapper. Yeah. Who found. Yeah. This is hilarious. $8 million in Bitcoin. In Bitcoin. Hey, look at that. Look what's in my pocket.  Oh boy. That could be scary. How come me? Planet of the apes has come in. We talk about the CTE study of pro football players. Justin's fucked. College football players. Damn. And high school football players. I think Justin's safe. He wasn't the kind of person to tackle with his head. No, not at all. We talk about the new XFL. What? We talk about keto and its brain protective properties could probably help with the CTE. Gobble that up. Adam does the absolute worst mention of Organifi Gold Juice, but we are sponsored by Organifi Gold. Not necessarily true.  That's true. So we are sponsored by Organifi.  They also sell protein powders, green juices, a lot of different products. We talk about my son's puberty transition. Growing a mustache. This is a lot of fun. All right. We talk about body odors. It goes right, right in hand with that. And then we talk about the crystal deodorant that I gave to my boy, which I got from Thrive Market. Now Thrive Market.  Thrive Market has all kinds of natural non-GMO and organic products, which we consider to be better than their non-organic versions. Now we are sponsored by Thrive Market. 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It does. It feels more righteous. A lot more righteous. More good. More comfortable. It's more goodness. It's more goodness. Truth, truthiness. We are the light. We are the salt. What is wrong with you? Whoops. Careful.  It's your bum foot. Sal's, I mean Doug's Army Box over here. It is. It's a bullet Army Box. He keeps some of this. He's ready for war. What'd you guys do? The chimp is ready for war. What'd you do when you guys got home after our trip? Did you guys crash out? I took care of my two kids with the flu. Oh, yeah. So what's going on, dude? Oh, man.   I made the most of it like a long time ago. I took away the Wii and decided like, hey, if we're not going to leave the house, we're going to have a Wii party. So they were like totally like passed out all fried and everything. I'm like playing the Wii by myself. That was your plan. Wait a minute.  I'm going to bring out the Wii. Yeah. Me. Yeah. To play. Did you do anything for your birthday or is that all this week coming up? This week and coming up, you're going to celebrate it. Yeah, this weekend. Yeah, I didn't do anything. Oh yeah. What are you guys doing? Happy birthday. Thanks. Thanks, man. Yeah. Happy birthday. We're going to Seattle. So Courtney and I are going to spend, yeah, just quality time catching up and being adults. What's in Seattle? Just hanging out. Like I have actually family up there, but she just decided to pick a location. We're starting to do this. Just try to pick a location, hang out and use it as an excuse to kind of catch up and reconnect. Dude, that one market, that one market, that famous market everybody takes a picture in front of. You know what I'm talking about in Seattle? Pike place. Pike place. A lot of fun, dude. Oh yeah. Yeah. Jessica and I did a lot of fun shopping there, walking around. Great place. We're totally going to get up like museums and stuff. You know what I'm saying? Oh, speaking of museums, I went to a great one yesterday. San Francisco, right? I did. The Museums of Fine Art. Nice. And the one I went to was the Legion. I don't remember the name of it. Shit. Let me look it up. Anyway, Legion of Honor, and they had just some paintings from, you know, the 1500s and 1400s. Then they had Egyptian artifacts and stuff that were thousands of years old. How cool. Like Egyptian artifacts are like my favorite. It's just fascinating because I'm looking at these. It's weird.  Isn't that funny how that works? When you're old, when you're young, it's just like, there's nothing. It's not. This is boring. I went to that museum when I was probably 17 or 18 somewhere around there, and it just wasn't that cool. It's not the same. So the first time a museum really hit me or I was like really enthralled by it was when I went to the Louvre Museum in France, which still is the best museum I've ever been to. That's where the Mona Lisa is and all that stuff. So we were going through, and I was probably, let's see, I was like 20, I want to say 21, so I was still pretty young. And we're walking through, oh no, maybe a little older actually, maybe like 24. So we're walking through and I had just, I had done Judo as a kid and I'd gotten, just started getting back into Brazilian, or into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and I'm walking through and it's cool and I'm kind of appreciating it more than I did when I was a kid, but I didn't have that impact until we're walking through some of the ancient Roman art and I see this tablet that's no bigger than, you know, maybe the size of a little bit bigger than like binder paper, right? And it's this old ancient tablet and I'm looking at it and it's thousands of years old, which is kind of cool. But what was on the tablet was more fascinating. I'm looking at, and it was a tablet carved of two Greco-Roman wrestlers or, you know, wrestlers from the, you know, from ancient Greece. So this thing's thousands of years old. And the move that one of the guys was doing on the other guy was a move that I had just learned in Jiu-Jitsu. No, was this a, was this, like you saw the image of him doing the move or it said the move? No, no, no. It was a picture, it was a sculpture. So it was like a tablet sculpture, ancient. Is he doing like a hip toss or something? No, it's kind of like a half Nelson almost. It's hard to explain, but he's got the guy in a really, like, good position and I'm like, holy shit, they were just teaching that in class, you know, a few weeks ago and I'm looking at it and there's this fucking... Where the origin probably was, right? Older than that. It's obviously older than that because they were doing it then and they learned it from someone. You know what I'm saying? It's like it just reinforced to me how knowledge is like that sticks around and it's just effective because it's lasted. Yeah, the effective stuff stays.  And obviously there's a lot, there's a lot.  I mean, they conceptualized the atom before we even knew there was an atom. What? You know?  So it was pretty awesome. Yeah, anyway, so we did the Museum of Fine Arts and then after we walked through it, we sat outside and it was a beautiful day in San Francisco. It was like 68 degrees. So it wasn't super warm but it wasn't cold and we sat out in the lawn and we just read for a while and then we went through the city and got some coffee and had a walk in the marina. Nice town. Yeah. Nice town, Andrew. How about you, Andrew? We went to Oakland. So I was up in... First time I've been to Jack London Square. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Beautiful, man. Yeah, it's great. Yeah. My best friend's wife, it was her birthday and we had brunch set up over at Scott Seafood in Jack London Square. And I was all the way to Oakland and I was like, why the fuck? I was telling Katrina, I'm like, why am I going all the way to Oakland, man? I know, it's like the gem of Oakland, though. It is. So I didn't know that, right? So I was kind of... I was already kind of disappointed that we were driving this far for brunch, right? But I was pleasantly surprised when I pulled up. I was like, man, this is really nice. I'll definitely come back here again. Where'd you guys eat? At Scott Seafood. Oh, all right. So Scott Seafood, it's right on the pier right there. They're good. Yeah, Scott Seafood's already good. I mean, they're downtown San Jose so I'm familiar with Scott Seafood. Well, that must have irritated you more. It's like, I know where's a Scott Seafood restaurant. Well, that's what I was saying. Why are we going all the way to Oakland to go to Scott Seafood when there's one right downtown? Is Oakland the central place for all the friends that are coming? I don't think it is, right? So anyways, we went and it was beautiful, amazing food. We did this brunch where you just pay $50 a person, which ended up being more like $80. I don't know why, maybe because we got other stuff. And then you have bottomless mimosas and you have this huge buffet of all kinds of stuff. Yeah, it was really good. It was a beautiful day, nice on the water. I mean, I was tired because anytime we get back from our trips, I'm just mentally drained. Well, bro, you also, how did you feel afterwards? No sickness, no nothing? Yeah, nothing, dude. So a trip on that, right? I got to tell the story. I got to tell the story because it's a fascinating story. So we're hosting the On It Academy and Kyle Kingsbury in particular showed us a great deal of hospitality. Put us up in a home that the On It Academy owns. Oh yeah, they pulled all the stops. And the house is fully stocked with On It products, supplements, galore. So pretty much anything you want. Now, I'm a supplement fanatic, if you will. I've been addicted to them. So I know how to temper myself now because I've gone down that road. But while we're there, we're just taking things left and right, trying things out. And we put this together later because at first we thought maybe you had the flu or something. But you took in the morning the primal day pack, which includes alpha brain and a bunch of other things in there. Then you had six or seven pills, actually. Yeah, then you had more alpha brain at the house. Then you had a pre-workout at the On It Academy, which contained more alpha brain and other stuff in it.   Then we sat down to podcast with Kyle and Kyle's handing out supplements. And I literally said to you guys, you guys should be careful what you're taking because you don't know what you're mixing together. But you guys just took, I think he gave you guys like five pills. You took them and then like 30 minutes later, what happened? Yeah, there was a shift and I remember, and here's a good example. So I know people always ask like this whole state change thing that I talk about, like if get DMs all the time, like what do you mean by that? And how do you start practicing this? And this is a good example. So I kind of flashed on Sal. I snapped at a forum kid and then I also snapped on Katrina all within like a couple hours, which is not like me. It's not like me to do that. And I remember when, you had said something to me after the podcast and you're like, bro, what's wrong with you? And I was like, I was irritated. I'm so tired of talking psychedelics. And I was, because I remember before the interview, I said let's not talk about psychedelics over and on it.  Can we make that happen?  And Sal took us there. So I was like, I was all irritated at him. But then I thought like, who cares? You know what I'm saying? Like, not like we haven't navigated through that before. And he made a comment to me afterwards like, dude, what was wrong with you? You're just out of it. Or I was like, yeah.  And I didn't put it together until I got home. And we were driving home, remember? And I was driving and I looked at you guys. I'm like, man, I having a really hard time keeping my eyes open. And it's only like seven o'clock. You know, it's not late at all. And so I thought that was really weird. And then I got to the house and I lay down for a second and I'm texting Katrina. And she made a comment about something about some coworker of hers hitting on her.  Just, you know, out of nowhere, right? And I could tell that it really bothered her and it was just me snapping at her, which is not my style at all, especially over something like that. I'm not even close to the jealous type. And then some four member made some poll about me on the Facebook and I jabbed at him.  I'm just going to say like a little jab. Just don't poke the bear type of deal, right? But then I thought like, fuck, that was like back to back to back things that really fucked with me, that that's not me to be that way. So I'm laying there kind of evaluating the day.  Like out of nowhere. Out of nowhere. Just nowhere. I get really nauseous. Every time I look at my phone, it makes it worse. And so I set the phone down. I'm kind of sitting there and I'm like, dude, do I have to puke? And I'm like, that's weird. I haven't been feeling sick at all. And I know Justin's really sick. So I'm like, fuck, did I get Justin's thing? That's weird. Out of nowhere. And I don't have flu-like symptoms, but all of a sudden I feel really nauseous.   All the food that we had just ate with Kyle, we had this huge probably 14-out steak that his wife cooked for us. We had a big old salad.  Everything came up. And I did that three times, like just.  Yeah. Especially with your ankle, because you can't really get down on the floor. Oh, yeah. So I can't get down on the floor. So it's disgusting. And I don't know how many people are going to be like, but it's splashing up in my face. Because it's too much of a distance, you know? From the water. You're just firing from the water. It's coming out with some thunder. Yeah. So I had to wash my face afterwards, brush my teeth. And I came out and asked you guys, I'm like, bro, this was so weird. I just puked my guts out. And I actually feel a little, a lot better right after doing that. You were fine. So, because here's what I noticed. And by the way, Doug followed a similar supplement regime to you that day, because he took a lot of what you did. You guys were going crazy with it. Yeah. He had a migraine. And it started during the podcast. And I noticed when we were recording, so you guys are the same way. We're all like this now. We've been doing this for so long, right? It's like, you know, almost a thousand hours of podcasting. I can sense when there's a shift in energy. And I can sense when it's, you know, something someone said, something that's going on. We're really good at reading each other. And I can also sense when it's something else. And it was really weird. It was like the first 20 to 30 minutes, you know, you were your normal self.  I can't wait to see the video because there's video of all this, right? Yes. So when it goes live for on on it, you'll see the video.  I was. I remember looking at the cameras at one time thinking, if we weren't on camera, I would totally like kind of close my eyes for a few minutes. Why South talking because I'm just like, give me my eyes are so heavy. I could feel it. I could feel like something's happening.  And at that moment, and this is why when we turned off the podcast, I said something at that moment. I'm like, oh fuck, they took too much stuff. Like they're all that's hitting them because you took like four or five pills right before the podcast. So about 30 minutes later is when you'll start to feel it. Right. And sure enough, you can tell like, oh fuck, something's going on. It must have been too much. And you can, you can definitely take too much of anything and have adverse effects. And so then we get home and it's funny. We get home and it's like after eating dinner at Kyle's house and we were going to do all this work because we had all this work to do.  Yeah. Doug stays up till two o'clock in the morning every night. We're all feeling it.  And I hear you come out of the room. You're like, sell. Sell. Like what man?  What's going on?  And then we started to put two and two together. Yeah. Yeah. But you felt fine the next day. Totally fine. What I felt like the next day, like I had a hangover, right? Like something had, like I did some to my body yesterday that would like really stress that same feeling. Right. So when you, when you push the alcohol, you push the drugs the day before. I mean, I had a hangover, but not bad. Like I ate all normal. My stomach was fine. We all ate the same food. My body just felt like, ugh. Yeah. And I, and I bet I was really sensitive too, because we just came off of this fast. I ran like a ketogenic diet. Then I've transitioned into a paleo diet. And I was just starting to kind of reintroduce more carbohydrates. And then while we were on this trip, we were kind of keto, like we were eating a lot of keto type. So I didn't feel like I had much in my system. We were eating low calorie too. So you're just sensitive on top of it? Yeah. Like coffee throughout the day. Right. So you had all those stimulants. You had mixed all kinds of different supplements together. And you probably took two or three times the dose of a couple of them, all, you know, at the same time.   What were you thinking? You know, but you just caught up in the moment of everything that we're doing. Plus it was really cool having, we literally had all at our disposal.  It's stocked in this house. Everything too.  Like, it's kind of cool. The whole house is stocked with that.  You know what I'm saying? That was like, that's what happened to us right there.  Kids in candy stores. Like yeah, it's in, you know, what do you expect?  So my body said. That's funny. Well, I'm glad you're not sick. So something I forgot to mention. In San Francisco, when we went to the coffee shop, I know Starbucks now has Stevia. A lot of places will have Stevia packets or Starbucks will at least in some Starbucks. But we were in some local coffee shop. So it wasn't a chain one.  And I look and there's a Splenda packet and it says Splenda Naturals. Splenda now makes a Stevia based sweetener. It has Stevia and urethriol in it. But now here's the deal. It's highly processed Stevia, probably not nearly as good as the more raw version of it, but I got to do more research. Nonetheless, what a signal, what a powerful signal that they are, they can see that the market's shifting and they're starting to move in that direction.  The makers of Sucralos are huge and now we're seeing them go in that direction. That's kind of cool. It's kind of the evidence that, you know. Did the kids send you guys the Gatorade one too? Did you see Gatorade with their organic drinks? Do they really?  You guys haven't seen it. Google Gatorade organic. Just Google that.  I know.  That's why somebody sent it over to us and you guys have been predicting all this stuff.  And then you sent over the new Gatorade bottles with organic.  I didn't do my own research yet. I thought for sure one of you guys had seen it by now. Well, good. I mean, I want to see the label because what does Gatorade organic even mean? What does that look like? I don't know. Well, you know what it means? It means it's flavored with organic sugar. You know? That's all.  Yeah, maybe. Here, look. You find it, Doug? Yeah. News flash. Organic doesn't mean healthy. No, I know. It's just sugar water. Yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, but this is how the, this is what the market does, right? Yeah. So we take something and now it's a buzz term. So we slap it on a label. I've actually seen no joke. I'm not lying. I've actually seen gluten free on water. Bottles of water. Oh, I have too. Bottles of water. I think it is beyond hilarious. Or low carb. Yeah. I've seen low carb water too. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks for identifying that for me. That free water. Hey man, I don't know about you guys, but that wheat water, that water made from wheat, it tastes like bread. Squeezed from the wheat. Yeah. It's beer. Of the Middle Earth. You know what water with gluten is called? Beer. Yeah. Exactly. Why were on current events? Here's another one for you guys. See the news that came out on 50 cent? So he filed for bankruptcy in 2015. Oh, mistakenly just found bitcoins out of nowhere. Yeah. So he, one of the, I think in two, back in 2000s something, I don't know what it was, one of his albums that he released, he sold and traded in Bitcoin. So he allowed it. He let people pay with Bitcoin. Yeah. He let people pay with Bitcoin. And so motherfucker got, it has like $8 million in bitcoins. He just found it too. Lips. Yeah. Just realized he had that. Problem solved. Had that. That's amazing.  Yeah. Two pieces of evidence.   Ridiculous. Absolutely hilarious. In his defense, Kay, because I don't know enough, here's the deal. Bankruptcy is many times, especially at that level of that much money, many times a strategy. It's a strategy. Many times the guys, and it makes for good news to say that 50 cent went bankrupt, but really what he could have done was bankrupt one of his entities that was not making a lot of money and it's a smart strategy so he's not going to get nailed on it.  I'm sure he has a bunch. Yeah, it's like Donald Trump. I mean, it was like when they tried to hammer Donald Trump for all of his bankruptcies but I mean, they were all business strategies and maneuvers, right?  I don't know about you guys but I get really, really, really excited to put on a pair of jeans and an old pair of jeans and I put my hand in the pocket and I was like, oh fuck, 20 bucks. Super excited. This is the equivalent of that time put in millions. Yeah, I can put your hand in your pocket like seven million dollars?  What's the thing about Bitcoin?  So I mean, that's, whoops, I have what, seven, eight million dollars in Bitcoin?  He must have just started jumping up and down. So crazy. So we got some more news here, some more new news.  So there's actually people right now in their garages who some of them, many of them have no formal education. They are figuring out ways or they're trying to research ways to edit genes so that like dogs don't have particular, you know, inheritable disorders and stuff like that. But these are people that are not, you know, funded by anybody. They're not. Alchemy. They're doing it on their own. This is a straight alchemy. This is, I mean, what do you guys, how do you guys feel about that? How do you feel about these, you know, these, these citizen scientists? Unqualified scientists just experimenting. Unqualified. Unregulated. Think about that. Yeah. I, it's, I mean, it's the ultimate like free market way to do it, right? It's kind of weird, right?  Yeah. But that's the same, that's kind of the same fear that... Or they create like a biohazard. You know what I mean? Like, oh, what if they do something really good? Yeah. Or what if they do something awesome? Yeah, what if they do something really good? Because there's big risks to both sides.  I mean, it's like the, the debate that we have about like even education versus somebody who's experienced, right? What if these guys, what if some of these people have put in a ton of hours of testing things and actually have a lot of hands-on experience and could potentially produce something that is of value and is amazing or whatever. And they're, and they're not, there's nobody else, their hands aren't in it trying to manipulate and change it. So, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. The thing that... I could see that argument. The thing that... I didn't know anything about this. Yeah, so... This is all recent news or what? Yeah, it's like becoming a thing. They're having conventions where these biohackers are talking about how they're trying to, you know, edit genes, how they're trying to create, you know, their own medicines, how they're using, you know, their knowledge of technology and science to do things that were formally done, because the technology's gotten so advanced now that the hurdles that you used to have to doing this kind of stuff, which one of the main hurdles was money, right? Like, you needed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars to afford to be able to get... So you can get it really soon. The things, yeah, just to get the tools necessary to be able to do these things, well, that amount of money now is down to thousands. It's not hundreds of thousands or millions and more now it's down to thousands. And the information's out there and information's easy to share now. I don't think you could stop it, even if you wanted to. Well, this is just another... Pandora's bomb. Massive disrupter, right?  Now there's communities built. I'm sure they're talking with each other and what worked, what didn't work. So it's like, it's just going to keep growing. This is how scientists were, you know, 100 years ago.  I am, but there's these natural fears I have, right?  But here's the thing too that worries me a little bit is not so much that it's the current atmosphere of this worship. I've talked about this several times now, but this worship of science where the ethics are kind of subjective rather than objective. So it's not, it's like I make my own rules and I'm going to worship science and any advancement is good. And if I can do it, I should do it instead of, you know, should I do this even though I can? And that's what worries me a little bit. Like if somebody is working with genes and they say, hey, you know what? Why not? You know, my wife is going to get pregnant. Why not use what I know, my technology to see if I can make my child, you know, less prone to disease. That sounds good. Sounds like a good thing and not have the ethical or moral compass because it's all subjective now too. And so that may pose some problems, but to be honest with you, I don't think we can control it. So really, really doesn't make a difference, right? Yeah, it's tough because yeah, you do want people to lead with that. Like that question before the intent of what, you know, the experiment is and whether it's even an ethical, valuable direction for them to pursue. But it is almost an arms race of like, who could do it? Who can do it first? Dude, they're already, they're experimenting with their bodies. So they're making devices that they'll implant into their arm or into their, you know, their face or whatever that'll, there was one device I was watching on this video where this guy implanted these devices and they would react to things when he'd get near them by giving them like a buzz or something in his skin. And so he started creating this other. Is there like haptic feedback? Yeah. And he's created this like, this, like his brain patterns have changed to the point where he now has an alternate sense now through this device as to where he can feel things around and rather than seeing them. So I mean, that's kind of cool. And he is, you know, he's experimenting on himself, but I don't know, man, I read a lot of comic books and I was a kid. Yeah. I remember that's very, he's trying to be Spider-Man. Yeah, dude. I remember the lizard guy that healed his arm and turned into fucking. Yeah. Yeah. There was cautionary tale. Yeah. Comic books.  Yeah. Dr. Jack. Hello. We've been talking about this forever. Yeah. It just takes one thing, you know, makes them weird radioactive monster. Here's another, another interesting thing that just came out. So there's, you know, they have that new CTE testing. So CTE is the chronic traumatic. This was the article you were reading on the plane. Yeah. So this is, I'm glad you brought this up. This is the type of brain damage that you see in, you know, athletes or people who've, yeah, who've had lots of, not necessarily concussions, but just brain trauma.  And it made big news. Did you guys ever watch the Will Smith movie? I did. Okay. Excellent. What's the name of it? I can't think of the name of it right now. Yeah. Oh my God. I can't remember.  Doug will get it. Yeah, it's, I mean, along the lines of CTE, right, this is a great, great story. It's well, and I believe it, this was the doctor who first came forward and started actually trying to do all the research. Yeah, because we had those suicides, right, where those athletes were killing themselves, but instead of sitting there, shooting themselves in their brains, they were shooting themselves in their hearts. Yeah, Junior Seau was, this was the one who really kicked it off as far as by shoot, he shot himself in the chest for that reason and left a note so that they would actually They get autopsies.  Is it concussion? Yes, that's the name of it. Yeah, concussion. So, but yeah, and so that kind of started this whole controversy. Well, now they have imaging that you can actually see CTE in the brain without having to, you know, take it out and dissect it. And there was a small study that was done and they tested 111 pro football players or X pro football players. Out of 111 pro football players, how many of them do you think had CTE? 110. 110. 110. I've never seen that. Then they studied college players. 53 college players. Out of 53 college players, how many of them do you think had CTE? 53. 48. 48. Then they went to high school. This is the one that scared me the most. High school students, they tested 14 high school football students and they found that three had CTE. Even on that level. Even on that level. So it's not like football, like pro football.  There's a good chance that when they get old enough, they're really going to want to play. There's caution to it, of course. It would have to be like the, I don't know man, I would go back and forth with it if I would struggle with it because I know many positives from it. I've had so many positives. The team element and just the actual brotherhood and all that kind of stuff like beyond the sport of it, I think is so valuable. But you could get that from a lot of different sports. So I could sort of re-evaluate whether another sport might be an option or that. But I have seen some advancements. Like even when we were at CES, there was companies that were out there that they had technology they're putting inside the helmet to find out like how many traumas they had in practice on the helmet itself. So then they would gather all these data points and then they had a team physician that would kind of go over the data points and see, well, this individual had this many impacts throughout this week let's kind of back off. And so it seems to me like they're making some efforts in that direction as far as like, okay, well, we know this is happening now. How do we sort of minimize it? So it's just part of the game, or the tackle strategy that might change. So I don't know, the game might evolve. I believe it is.  Just take the helmets off. I think that's a great idea. You watch the direction it's going right now. They're already evolving. And each year, the last three years I've noticed this like, and I remember the transition as a fan watching. I didn't like it at first because you're like, oh, come on, that was a great hit. But they're protecting these guys now with the hits as far as anything. If their helmets accidentally collide together like that, if it looks like that the defender is coming at them with the helmet at all, it's a flag.  So I believe, and I think they're going to continue to go that way. So I mean, the other option is what's coming out again. Did you hear XFL? XFL? Yes, it's 2020. What do you mean XFL? FXL is coming. It's making a comeback? Yes, 2020. He's already announced it. It's here. Why is that an option? I'm joking. It's not really an option. It's just another league. XFL was... I remember. So Vince McMahon, owner of the WWE and he came out with the XFL back in 2000. And I want to see... Which was a cool concept back in the day.  Yeah, so they had girls in bikinis in the jacuzzi in the end zone. And they let players give themselves nicknames like he hate me. And it was more... If you could imagine if the WWE... It was like pro wrestling football. Yeah, but you actually had some real good athletes that just couldn't quite make the NFL that were playing on there. And so it's right out the gate. The first couple episodes, it broke records as far as ratings.  But it fell off a cliff. And then it became... It went from being these crazy ratings to some of the worst ratings of Primetime TV ever. And that's why it died. So the big question everyone's asking is like, what's going to keep it from dying again? And so they have supposedly big plans, quote unquote, of how they're going to do that. Well, I know the NFL numbers are down, right? They've been down since the whole pro wrestling stuff. I think that's why McMahon is doing this because he sees an opportunity. And when there's blood on the street, that's when you buy, right?  It's going to be the opposite. So actually one of the things they did say was that it'll be safer than the NFL. That's weird. Yeah, so that makes me wonder like, maybe they will be no helmets.  Maybe they're the first one. Maybe he's that smart that he sees all the controversy around the NFL. They see that the rates are down and maybe he thinks the answer is be the first one to transition to this completely safe sport where we go helmetless and tackle football. I don't know. I'm just speculating right now. I mean, it was interesting because I played both rugby and football and you know, coming from football and then transitioning into rugby was especially interesting because I didn't lose a lot of the tendencies that I had to tackle people. That's your pattern, dude. Yeah. So it's like, I would tackle people like and I would, I'm coming forward with my chest, my shoulder and my chin kind of down and then coming up and driving into the person. And a lot of times I would make connection there to the chin and the head with the person and then I had to like really alter that and like figure out how to do it in a different way and let them sort of like come to me a little bit more. I didn't realize that you went from football to rugby. I actually thought it was the other way around. It was a tough transition, too. Yeah, I did kind of both, so yeah.   Did people get pissed at you? Yes.  I had the most epic, hey, newbie ever. Yeah.  Like they had a kickoff and this guy caught it and I just broke free. And I was just like, like laser guided to this guy and like he caught the ball and looks up, looks at me and like tries to make a little move, but I didn't move at all.  He took the ball and he threw it at me. He was all pissed off and everybody was like, but yeah, it was totally like barely a legal hit. Let's just say barely.  So two things. First off, there's a study that I just read. Someone posted it. I want to say in the forum that shows that there are potential brain protecting effects from eating a ketogenic diet or taking ketones post trauma. What? Yeah. So of course, we know that we know that ketones are brain protecting. We know this from studies, but they're showing that it may be able to be applied when someone has a concussion or... Oh, it's a positive thing. Yeah. Oh, of course, that makes total... I think you're saying that it has a negative effect. Oh, yeah. Well, that just makes sense for inflammation purposes. Right. And so it's like after if you get a concussion, it might be a good idea to fast or go into ketogenic diet. Now this is... Add some CBD. I said it might, so you got to do your own research. This is based off of one thing that I read, but pretty interesting. The other thing, the other comment I have on this is this. It wasn't that long ago, maybe 60, 70 years ago, that boxing was a relatively... Not super popular, but relatively popular thing that parents would put their boys in when they were kids. Like if you were a young boy and you could... In some schools even had boxing where you could learn boxing and do it with self-defense. Yeah, it was just a sport. It was a sport like wrestling or football or baseball. And it lost popularity because of the stigma of being punch drunk, of getting your face busted, all these different things. And so slowly, parents started taking their kids out and the people that kept going were typically the lower class minority groups, which is still to this day, if you go in a middle to wealthy class neighborhood, you don't find boxing gyms, but if you go into poor neighborhoods, you'll find boxing gyms. Until this day now, like again, you see a lot of these boxers coming through that tend to make up, come from those groups whereas back in the day, it was a little bit more mixed. It was still like that, but it was a little bit more mixed. And it's because of that stigma. Football is a culture in America. It's an American culture. It's definitely a part of this country. Similar to how boxing is, it's much more ingrained. And it's in schools, right? You play it in high school. You play in college. There's Pop Warner. It's a major money driver for colleges. It's a major... This is where you get your... It's like the feeder system. I mean, it's like the top of the funnel, if you will. As more of this information comes out, as they're showing... If they keep showing CTE and high school students, I'll bet my last dollar that you're gonna see parents not let their kids... There's already a lot of that. It's already starting to happen. Oh yeah. There's a lot of parents and a lot of football. Yeah. And I've talked to coaches even from my old high school and from around the area. And numbers are dwindling already. And I think it's definitely made an impact. All this information... For sure it has. Has brought the scare upon. The question is how much will it? You know what I'm saying? How long will it stay? I mean, something like boxing we've known for a long time is not healthy and you still have it going on. But it's way more rare. It doesn't have nearly the organization... But here, think of it this way. This is what you have to understand. They did this study on people that... I think it was Olympic gold. To win an Olympic gold, taking steroids and doing all these things to your body. If you died like six months... Oh no, they said if you knew... What was it off of?  Would you do it? No, it was less than that. Or five years. Yeah, it was a very short lifespan. They all said yes. It was like 100% across the board, right? So you got to believe that because the reward for football is so high that you almost guaranteed to be a millionaire if you make it that these people are willing to take that risk. And that's what I'm saying. I don't think it'll disappear like boxing, again. But I do think that if you're in a situation where you have more options which middle to upper class people tend to have.  This may be his way out. I'm going to put him in Pop Warner. I'm going to let him play.  I know you want to but the risks are high. We're seeing all these studies on CTE. And so I'm just saying, I think we're going to, like Justin said, you're already seeing reduced because it's super organized. Yeah, you're going to see reduced but I don't think it's going to be as big as you think. I'm more interested in what's going to happen with the UFC right now because of all the stuff that's coming out with that and how dangerous that support is and how little they make money. I was blown away by the numbers that Kyle said the other day. It's crazy. I didn't know it was that bad. Like he said something like boxing is a shame. It's a shame. This is what it is. Yeah, the fighters make like 70 to 80% of the purse money and the stuff from paper views like that or whatever it is. I don't remember the stat that he gave but it was a really high number and I think it's on the interview we did with him. But then he said, UFC is like crazy them out. There's such a small percentage of guys that will ever make any money doing that but they're going to... So taxing on your body. Right, but they're killing themselves trying to get to that point. So that I'm interested in where that goes. I think football won't die, dude. I think there's enough. There's more middle class to lower class people than there are the upper class that are going to feel that way. So I don't think they're a majority. I don't know if it'll die but I think we're seeing them. No, it's a part of the culture. It's a part of the culture. Because it's a part of the culture and because the NFL is so powerful it will evolve. They won't allow it to die. It is too big. It's literally a part of our culture. It's the sport of our country. It's the biggest... Well, is it bigger than baseball? It's got to be. At least popularity-wise. I don't know. So here's the thing with baseball. Baseball is more profitable because it has a hundred- It's a longer season. Yeah, so they can make more money. I think the Super Bowl gets more views because there's one game, right? So if you were to come... Yes, again, once again, World Series 7. Yeah, so money-wise it might... Per game, per game, per view, per dollar, your NFL is going to win. Yeah, it's these right there. Well, according to Wikipedia, football is the most popular sport. Yeah, it's definitely an American tradition.  So we'll see what happens. And we're really starting to make... Look what we've done with the NFL in the last 10 years. Now we started with one game overseas, then it became two, now there's multiple games. So we're waking away. You know what it reminds me of? It's growing before it's going the other way. Yeah, you know what it reminds me of? It's almost like... You're ever in a situation where... And I hate to say this because I hate to assume this, but you're ever in a situation where you get information and you're like, man, I wish I didn't know that. You know what I mean? I liked it better when I didn't know any better. I feel like that's going to start happening with football.   Yeah. It's my CTE acting up. Yeah. It's like, no, no, no, no. You don't want it... Yeah, that's a great point, Justin.  So I think people in that category where they feel like victims, they think they're special. And yes, definitely some of us have harder lives than others, but you're not special. You know, everybody's had something terrible or challenging to them.  I thought I read somewhere that the Organifi Gold Juice is supposed to help prevent CTEs. No, not at all. That would be a great selling point. That's a trick in it by the bucket. That's a terrible product mentioned. You gotta do better than that. It is anti-anxiety. Did you imagine Organifi calling us up? You guys cannot make claims like that. Have you guys been drinking it, by the way? Yeah, I have. Me and Courtney all the time. I love it. It's so good. It's just a great one to have later at night. It's anti-inflammatory, isn't it? You could tie it to that. You could totally speculate. You could completely speculate.  They take something like that, a little bit of information. It's anti-inflammatory. And CTE could be caused because of your... Inflammation. Yeah, inflammation. Therefore, one plus one equals 25. Right, therefore. And equals, yes. That's crazy. That's common, dude. So, you know what else is funny? So, you know, my boy's 12, right? And puberty is starting to kick in.  Oh, is his voice changing? His voice is changing. So, he's already got this thing going on. And I'm exaggerating it. But it's like that.  Peach fuzz. Yeah, a little peach fuzz. You know when you get like... Did you get him his razor kit yet? So, my ex is like, he should start shaving pretty soon.  I'm not gonna shave. Yeah.  I had a couple like sparse hairs on my neck. Yeah, I'm getting a beard. It's on my neck. He's getting some of those. And then, here's the best part. There's a moment when your kids' hormones change their skin biome, micro biome. Oh, where they start to smell, dude. I remember... It's a different smell. Like little kids can smell. Okay. There's a myth there that kids can't smell.  But it's a different smell. When they go through puberty. I remember my... I can smell the testosterone. I remember having this conversation with my parents when my little sister went through that because she was young. It was earlier. It was earlier than what they anticipated.  Yeah. And they have no idea. Yeah, yeah.  You're playing around and stuff like that. She's that young. She's not thinking about that. But you can tell her body odor started to change and smell like somebody who would have B.O. and she's just this kid playing around and you don't know any better. So, yeah, absolutely there's a distinct change. Bro, it's a smell signal, bro. It's a smell signal letting other people, you know, the opposite sex, you let them know. You're flowering. Yeah, like, oh, here we go. I'm starting to go through these changes or whatever.  How weird is it that we've evolved, though, that at one point that was probably a smell we desired and we wanted? Come on, bro. Isn't that weird? What do you mean at one point? We do now. Think about it. Oh, no, I don't. Oh, no, no, no. Think about it. Hold on a second. Maybe you, bro. Maybe you. No, no, no, no. You can't tell me. Maybe you don't recognize it as a bad smell, but you can't tell me your girl doesn't have a distinct smell to her, her own skin. And it's not something that smells bad to you, but you may be attracted to it. This is true. Look, they've done, I don't, I'm not going to argue this because this is, the studies are very clear in this. Well, they'll have men wear a shirt and then they'll take the shirt off and then they'll have their wives trying to smell it and tell them which one is their husband.  When I was a kid and I'd be hooking up with girls just smelling their hair, their skin, anything that I could smell, that smelled like there was just such a, it's all those pheromones. See, now that's funny. I remember that as a teenage boy and now as a man, I don't feel the same way. So as a young boy going through puberty, experiencing that. You were super charged, bro. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Like at that time, I remember like smelling my girlfriend like she would be, just woke up from sleeping and her breath or everything. And most people would think that stinks. I didn't think that, I thought it smelled so good. Yeah, I did a lot of gross stuff. Yeah, that's a lot of smell. Yeah. Way different now though. Way different. I was smelling everything. So anyway, so I gave my son. So I told my son like we're going to start wearing deodorant. So I got him the crystal one that, you know, the one that, that Doug got from Organifi. Excuse me, excuse me from Thrive Market. Sorry. Thrive Market has these natural, you know, body products. So like skin products, hair products. Doug got that one. You got that one done? Yeah. He got me the crystal deal. Oh, he got it for you. For me. So what the crystal does is it's salt. It's these type of salts that you rub under your arm and then it prevents the proliferation of the bacteria that tends to cause B.O. So I got him that. And I'm hoping that'll work with him because we, like again, we read this on the plane. Remember I showed you. I was reading a discover magazine over the last 30 years. The average amount of sperm in a man's ejaculate is dropped 59%. That's huge dude. 59%. And just 30 years, right? In 30 years. We know testosterone. That's in our lifetime dude. It's a lot just sucking us dry. Bro, we know testosterone levels are dropping. And now, and then, and now we see sperm counts are dropping and it's environmental. For sure it's environmental. Yeah. 100%. It's all the toxins. And girls are going through puberty earlier and earlier, which can also be the result of, it could be a result of just being overweight, but it can also be a result of these hormones and foods.  And so all these skin products, the reason why I'm bringing this up is all these skin products, hair products, deodorants, all these perfumes, colognes, they all, unless they're these ones that specifically say they don't have them and they're not, in their natural or whatever, they contain chemicals that are known as Xenoestrogens that can act like estrogens in the body. And you know, if you use them once, twice, whatever, it's not going to make a big deal.  It's part of it, right? It's all the environment.  So I'm giving them the crystal. Yeah, they keep us posted on how it's working. Yeah, it's crazy. It could also be mating pressures. This was something else that I was thinking about the other day where the signs, the obvious signs of testosterone aren't necessarily as desirable as they used to be. And so maybe, you know, maybe women aren't choosing men that way and they're mating late, but it's too soon. It's 30 years. It can't be that fast. It's got to be environmental. It's got to be. I don't know. Bring on the beta bird. This quiz brought to you by OrganiFi. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, OrganiFi fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health and performance a good edge. Try OrganiFi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to OrganiFi.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com. And use a coupon code MINEPOMP for 20% off at checkout. First question is from SincerelyJazz. What has been the hardest part of being a fit parent? You know, what's funny about this is it's basically... That I have no kids. Yeah. Basically the challenges you have... One funny thing. A fit person or similar is just amplified because parents tend to judge each other quite a bit. I first noticed this when my kid, my son, who's my oldest, played sports. So we had him play soccer. And at the end of the game, obviously this is what happens at the end of these games when they're kids, a parent is picked to bring the after-game snack. And never do parents bring anything that's even remotely healthy. They treat it like it's a treat. And it's always garbage, always garbage. And I remember the first time this happened, the parents were given out these big old massive cookies. And then this... It wasn't even juice. It was high C something and gummy candies. So it's like three things. There's a cookie, gummy candies, and this drink. And so I walked over there with my son, and he's super excited he's going to get all three of them. And so I told him... I don't want to say no, but I told him... He had one choice. I said, you have to pick one, just pick one. And the parent goes, oh no, there's plenty, he can have all three. And I'm like, no, no, no, I just won only. And the parent, the mom looked at me, she's like, well, why? And I'm like, oh, it's just a lot of... And I'm like, what do I say? Do I be honest and tell her it's a lot of sugar?  So I chose to be honest. And I said, oh, it's just a lot of sugar. And she's like, oh, it's just one time. It's not a big deal. I'm like, well, I know that, but it's just too much sugar for a minute. I tried to make up some of the stuff and then we left. And that was the first time I noticed that judgment that you get from other parents because it reflects on them, I think. They feel bad about themselves. I don't know. Yeah, I had the same thing with sports like that, like the after thing. I actually had to change the whole league because they had it structured so this ice cream company would show up right after every single practice, not just every game. That's so great. Practice, too.  And then the kids had a free pass for their first ice cream. Such a great hustle.  All they were doing was talking about... Can I get some Gatorade? And then I want to go get some ice cream. And I was like, this is toxic. Me and my wife were angry. We actually wrote them a letter and everything. This is a horrible way to set up these kids nutritionally and totally distracted us from having a healthy activity that we're trying to promote.  We're in everybody's party. But yeah, so we just like, no. So we went into a different league. Yeah, there was more parents that sort of got it. But yeah, you're just going to run into that a lot. Because what's normal at somebody's household isn't normal in another.  It's funny that we shame parents for something like this.  Or if they found out that you have this verbally abusive home and stuff like that, then you would be shamed for that. But yet, what we feed our kids, we are setting them up for the future and right now these are very formative years for them and the way you feed them could potentially set them up for the rest of their lives.   There's no logic. For a parent, for most parents, at least parents that care about their kids, the biggest insecurity that exists is am I being a good parent or am I doing things that are bad for my kids?  You don't want to hear that.  That's so ridiculous. You don't need to do a helicopter parent. This is a big thing. It's way more common too among moms than it is among dads.  And this is anything, it's not just food. It's vaccines, it's education, it's decisions. Any kind of decision you make for your kid, if someone else makes a different decision and has their reasoning for it and part of their reasoning is it's better than your decision, you are immediately offended. That's your instinct. Your instinct is to be offended. My kids go to, they go to this particular school, right? If I had a parent come to me and say, oh, my kid went to that school, but I sent him to another school because that school is really bad and named a bunch of things. Instinctually, I'm going to want to kind of be offended a little bit like, what do you mean? I'm sending my kids to a bad school. I could sense that. I could see how that would happen within me, but I'd have to kind of control it.  Why are we all naturally like that too anyway? I'm not even a parent and I'll see, so I have to admit that I still have, I have that in me. We're all looking at the way someone's raising their kid and I'm like, fuck, man, why are you not saying anything to your kid right now? He's at this important age right now and you're just allowing him to stuff candy after a bit of candy and he's... God forbid you say something and you don't have a kid. You will get destroyed. And I know that, right? Because they don't want a discussion from you. What they're going to say to you is, you don't know because you don't have kids and a discussion, no talking. You're going to lose.  And there's a little bit of truth in the sense that when you have kids, you can experience the full gamut of it.  It's not like you have kids and all of a sudden bad food is no longer bad. You don't know what you're talking about, Adam.  Like these foods are not, they're healthy.  I've felt this so many times. I feel this when I go to a birthday party and I've had parents and it's funny. I don't let it bother me. It used to bother me and I would actually jab back at people and I did this once at a party really bad and really made someone feel terrible. And in the meat, you know, at the immediate time, I felt good about making them feel bad.  And this is when I go to a birthday party and they'll be serving, you know, pizza or something for the kids. And they'll ask me, Sal, you want some, why aren't you eating some pizza and cake? Because, you know, all the parents are eating along with it. Like, oh, no, I don't really, I ate earlier or no, I'm cool. I don't want any. And then they'll be like, oh, come on, man. It's just one. What's the big, you don't have to always be a fitness guy or one's not going to hurt you.  It tastes so good.  And I also know where it's coming from. It's to make themselves feel better because if the fitness guy eats the pizza, now they feel better for eating it. So it's their own thing. So it used to really bother me and I would kind of do a little jab back or whatever. And one day, man, years ago, I had a family member who was just, because I wouldn't drink a beer and was just, you know, making fun of me. Like, oh, cares, man. You can have a beer, have some fun, man. You never loosen up, man. Why don't you just loosen up? What's the big deal? And so I walked over to him. I pulled a shirt out of his pants. So I pulled a shirt up and I slapped him in the stomach. He's an overweight guy. And I slapped him in his belly. And I'm like, you keep enjoying your beers, bro.  And it destroyed him like the rest of the party. Like he was in the corner real sad and I felt super, super bad. When I did it, I felt good. But afterwards, I feel bad. So I don't let it get to me anymore. It's just people are going to have their own challenges with it. And I'm just going to do what's best for my kids. Yeah. I think that's really, it's about what you have, like what you hold as your standards.  And if people want to check you on it, whatever, that's fine. But for me, I don't go around like judging too harshly these other families and the way that they have it all structured, that's your rule system. But my kids, you know, when they're in your environment, still, you know, I want to maintain what I want them as far as health wise to consider. And so it's just like, hopefully they respect that, you know, of them coming in and then I'll respect you and what you're doing to your kids the same. But let me, let me do my thing, you know, and then maybe in a sense it'll affect people around me. I feel like what we see happening right now just in just nutrition period. We just earlier talked about, you know, the sweeteners and things like that. I really feel like the generation coming around like is going to be different about that. I think it's going to be more normal. There's more awareness. Yeah, I think there's going to be, it'll be more normal that you go to the soccer game and right now you guys probably feel alone. Like you're the one or two parents that like think like, oh my God, I can't believe they're serving ice cream here. I think real soon here they're going to be at least 50% of the parents are going to feel that way. So once it starts getting some traction. It will. It's like, I mean it's not as extreme as cigarettes but it does. It feels like it's a stigma to me. It's just like, what?   Healthy stuff. Yeah, you bring strawberries and water.  Celery and carrots. Well now your kid, now all the kids are like, orange and blueberries. Your dad brings crappy snacks. Skip Sal's day. Dude, it's funny man. Sal brings coconut oil. Tablespoons for everybody. Broccoli. Next question is from Michael Hargood. You often hear a lot about women dealing with body image issues and the many disorders it can lead to but do you think it's becoming more common for young men to be developing these types of disorders? What would you recommend for an underweight male teen dealing with body dysmorphia? This reminds me of the interview we did with Jason Phillips. So if you haven't gone back and you listen to that interview, make sure you listen to that interview and I will tell you that before we interviewed him, I would have told you that maybe it's on the rise but for sure this is an issue that women deal with mostly and he actually argued that and said I completely disagree that there's as many men that deal with this issue it's just we don't talk about it. We don't report it. Right. We don't talk about it. We're afraid to bring it up and so and you're seeing more of it come forward now and I think that's just people being allowing it to happen. So they do do studies on this and the statistics do show that it is on the rise. It's that the amount of men now that have And do you think though that it's on the rise because it's actually on the rise? Do you think it's on the rise because we're becoming more aware of it? It could be both but I do think a large part of it is because it is on the rise and I'll tell you why. When you look at the value that we place the primitive values that we place on each other men and women, a woman's hierarchy in terms of her value to potential mates or whatever, how healthy she appears, her body, her image, her youth is ranks higher than a man's on that ladder. A man's is typically status. So sense of humor, how much money you make, how alpha you are and body is kind of up there as well. However, you often see more, not so fit, not so good looking, but very successful businessman have the pick of the litter if you will when it comes to women and you see less of the reverse. You don't see women who aren't necessarily attractive or not very fit who are also successful who have their as big of a pick as the man would. So it's just valued more with women. Women know this and they've been advertised and marketed to this way much longer than men. But fast forward now, modern times, there's more of a value being placed on how a man looks, both by women but more so by men. Men used to not judge other men so much by their physical appearance. It was more by their physical performance like what they could do, what they could achieve and it's become more and more popular and how to look a particular way. It's got to be social media correlated and online dating. I mean, both of those factors alone I would feel you presenting yourself and having to do that in a very quick fashion so you're going to want to try and make yourself look the best and the most appealing on top of like, yeah, I might be funny or I might have all these other monetary sort of status that I have as value but at the same time you got to capture the attention and so this becomes an obsession for a lot of men now I'm sure to present themselves at this ultimate. The question is though, are we on an overall rise period and that's more than anything else. I would argue that it's just a rise all the way around that men have always had these issues it's just becoming more we're exposing it more through because of what we see happening in our society right now and you touch on social media man, I'm really interested to see where we are in 10 years due to things like Instagram and Facebook. I think it's doing a lot more harm than people talk about. There's some challenges that we're going to start to see are they going to become more clear we're starting to guess and we see a little bit of it but it hasn't been around long enough to hear challenges and here's one of the psychological things that happens with social media. The part of your brain that judges where your status is with the people around you is actually very primitive in fact it can be argued that it's one of the most primitive parts of the brain maybe even more primitive than the part of your brain that recognizes trees or faces even because it's knowing your status or whatever is present in most creatures on earth so it's a very old thing that we all have in common and one of the signals that we use to judge our status is by what we see around us. Now if we live in our neighborhoods let's imagine for a second we don't have social media, we don't have internet and TV and we're just walking around our neighborhoods your point of reference is the people around you. So I'm comparing myself to my neighbors the people I go to school with those types of people the people that I see every single day and so I may see someone that's kind of fit looking but if I have a six pack for example I'm going to stand out around the people I see I'm not going to run into too many billionaires in fact I bet you can walk around your entire life and never run into a billionaire that's how rare they are but if you have social media and the internet and all this stuff showing you all these things all the time it presents this alternate reality where it's more common than you think normalcy.  And here's what I tell people that think that that are sucked into this world of scene and following these people that show these photos of them ripped year round which most of them are bullshit or not no doubt if you're fit like that next level fit you use the gym right just pay attention when you're in the gym next time look at the gym look around actually and that's even biased right that's my point right it's already extremely biased because all fit people are going to the gym pretty much right I mean for a majority right unless you're doing something else is your way of fitness but I'm talking like the super shredded that we're posting on Instagram my credit and look around your gym and find one of those people you'll be lucky to find one for sure two or three and you're in the place where they all would be at so just shows you how rare it really is it is I mean if I think about this way if I'm super into basketball and I'm just always looking at these guys looking at these guys looking at my brain whether I know consciously or not my brain the primitive part of my brain that tells me where my status is in society or my which that's a very important thing by the way if you have a very low status perceived low status in society that changes your brain chemicals it changes how you walk how you talk how assertive you are how many risks you take and when you start to exude that it actually limits your opportunities as well because when I exude less confidence I'm going to less people are going to give me less opportunities so it's just like positive feedback loop where it gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse so it's very very important but if I'm looking all the time on Instagram or social media at all these massive basketball players I may think to myself like man there's a some fucking tall dudes like I'm just not that tall I'm a short guy walk around how often have you ever run into a seven foot guy I think in my entire life if I exclude going to an NBA game twice one time in my entire life I think I saw a guy that was seven foot that's how rare it is so it's unfair to compare yourself to all these people that you see in social media and stuff because it creates this bullshit you know like status in your mind you're like oh wow I'm worthless I don't look anything like the people in the magazines or on the on the social media I don't have nearly the success I'm reading this story about this 25 year old who just became a millionaire who invented something like I'm an idiot obviously because I can't do that and I'm already you know you know however old you are like it's just not it's just not fair and so there's two parts of this one is consciously remind yourself of that that's one and the other part is to acknowledge that there's a an unconscious part that you are out of that's that's out of control for you and that the only way to influence that subconscious or that unconscious part of you is to limit your the amount of time you spend on social media like be smart with the time that you spend on it don't sit there and waste time flipping through pictures and reinforcing that one way to do that is to evaluate the people that you're following them and why you're following them right so most people that have an insecurity like this don't even realize it but they're making it worse because they're following these people that they want to look like and so unfollow all this like if you follow if you got a if you got like let's say you got 300 people you follow you know or more and 80% of them are these people that look the way you want to provide you know other and they provide know get rid of that shit like stop following those people like you know at least and I'm not saying that you can't follow your favorite fitness person who motivates you like that's fine if you got one or two people like that but do you really need a hundred fitness people that post images of themselves and with their shirt off or in a bikini every single day like are they really providing value or they feeding something that's an addictive to you and that's an insecurity of yours you got to really ask yourself that because I feel like somebody like this like myself who went through body dysmorphia we've talked about our own insecurities growing up you know of course I'm looking at all the magazines like that's the worst thing that this guy should a kid like me should do if I think I'm already super skinny and I feel insecure about that then I'm reading all these magazines and that aren't really providing very good information for me and it's just bunch of pictures of guys I really want to look like meanwhile they're genetic anomalies and on top of that they're taking steroids so stop feeding your stop feeding this potential addiction that you have to this look that you want so get rid of that that would be my first advice to a teen because more than likely if you're a teen I'm sure you're inundated with all this social media bullshit and start following people that are providing if you want to build if you because he said what do we recommend to an underweight male teen with body dysmorphia I tell you what if you're into working out you're into lifting weights obviously we have programs I highly recommend because we wrote them we know they're good but if you love reading about this kind of stuff and you really want and you but you also are aware that you don't feel so good about yourself with you know like you said body dysmorphia by the old books go and get the old ones written by like Eugene Sandow and you know all these strong men from before steroids because although they are very muscular and they look incredible they're all much more realistic and the advice you'll get from them is probably better anyway next question is from Mike Fazeek how do you feel about popular fitness influencers helping people reach their fitness goals since they may or may not be taking what a nice transition natural transition same group of people here I have I have no problem with people helping other people reach their fitness goals as long as the and of course it's you know they're free to do it so I wouldn't want to force them to stop anything but I have no problem for shitty people doing it too it's a free market it's your choice but personally personally you know when I see bad information when I see like here's what I hate I really hate this and we're talking about the body dysmorphia if you're on gear like don't say that you're not maybe don't say anything at all but there's a lot of people on there that are like oh no I'm all natural and I'm this and I'm that and it's like but you're not like be honest a little bit the waters yeah just just be honest because it's almost like you're trying to make yourself look better by saying that you're you're not on them and I know I'm in the industry I know many of these people who are we knew one personally who right you know preached about how naturally was a lot of you and then we met his freaking steroid supplier and he's like actually no he takes a shit ton of gear and it's like come on man are you that insecure that you can't fucking admit like you know what you're doing absolutely ridiculous so I don't I it doesn't bother me like it probably used to bother me or like maybe the rants that we've gone on this show because let's be honest like because of all the bad fitness information and terrible fitness professionals get or people that call them fit professionals but really all they are is just somebody on their IG that looks good in Bikini or looks good fucking inside the gym they've proven that they can get themselves in shape I mean it's there's an epidemic of this happening within fitness I mean when you look at a majority of the people putting out information it's somebody who has put enough discipline and work into getting themselves in phenomenal shape and now they've considered themselves a fitness professional or they're providing fitness advice and they're making a lot of money doing it online now that doesn't make me angry all it did for me a few years ago when I saw how crazy this was was show that there's an opportunity I saw an opportunity that wow a majority of these people giving but and I say majority because there are still some people out there that are providing really valuable content that's out there they're just the minority and so it provided an opportunity for mine pump I mean if it wasn't for all these shitty people giving advice we wouldn't have a really good we wouldn't have a platform or a business right now we really wouldn't because it's because of all the shitty information out there and I think that's how somebody should handle instead of getting angry about it shaming them fucking hating on them like do something about it provide some really good information for people out there and be that light you know and it's just and know that it's tougher that way because you're not using all the tricks that they're using to get people to follow and pay attention but I don't really I don't really hate on it I don't really have this like you know I can't believe they're doing that of this like well yeah it's definitely on the consumer it's on the the person that's you know seeking information from people and like us being able to provide more education definitely helps and like more people that are out there you know kind of addressing this this issue just to provide better information is obviously going to be the best way to do it but the thing is like people that get in super awesome shape like that a lot of times the next the next like thing that follows that is all these people are watching and they want to go in that same exact formula that got then there and so it's like they're going to hit them up like constantly oh what'd you do what'd you do it's like it's it's just human nature to kind of see somebody go through a metamorphosis like that and think that that's going to you know directly apply to their life so I so you're free to do whatever you want but I'm going to call it out if I had some of you are slimy some of you fitness influencers are slimy take advantage of slimy lying you know fucks and I can't when I love calling you out because you know you could shine shine some light on that slime and it usually will you know it'll die I'll give you a great example okay whenever the Kardashians give fitness information I want to rip my hair out of my head because here they are the worrying you know screams or you know waste trainers extremely dangerous have nothing to do with fitness oh look what I did to get this wonderful way or look at these exercises they did to get my wonderfully round but which in reality but they went to this they went and got but implants but they're lying and telling girls that these are the exercises and this is the workout that I do it's just slimy it's just lying and slimy and I don't like anybody in anywhere that just lies in a slimy well I think that I think that way makes all of us upset I think that's an extreme example of the question here because I think there's more people I mean then the whole common like hey man I took these pills and got and lost 25 pounds of body fat got shredded or hey man this is the exercise I did that got my legs up to you know this big or that my arms is big in four weeks yeah but you know buy this buy that I think this this is going to die soon too so when Instagram came out there was this huge flux like from companies like shreds that came out a lot of my peers in the MPC IFBB world it was really common once you won a few shows got a little bit of a following a supplement company picked you up and then now you're every other post is a picture of you taking your supplement so after your post workout and here's my coupon code swipe up and all this stuff you still see it but I think it's dying 95% of those people that you see doing that don't make fucking shit they make hardly any money doing that so I think they're even figuring out I think it was like one of those things monkey see monkey do they see all these people doing it and he's big and he's popular oh this is the row I see you know so-and-so who's Mr. Olympia and he's got all these followers and he's promoting his supplement company and his t-shirt all these companies like dude those guys don't make shit dude they don't make hardly anything most of them are living at home still with mom and dad it's all flash in the pan shit and I think people are starting to figure that out like slowly but surely that's getting exposed and they're starting to put it together that that's not the route and I think that we're gonna see plus there seems to be some backlash right you're starting to see some backlash where I used to see these ads and underneath it people would ask questions and get excited now I'm seeing people underneath it going this is bullshit or why would you say that or that doesn't work I love it well you said this before son it's such a great point that mine pump could have came out three years ago and been keto pump you know and could have been the name of it and then we attached ourselves to a keto supplement and we probably would have made more money faster than we have right now that route but it's not the long game it's not the long game at all by by doing something like that but that's a way to take advantage of the market the market's telling you right now and we called that to way back when that watch what happens with keto watch all the supplements came out you know us we're not the we're not like bunch of geniuses a lot of other people saw that too and they were and they were smart when you from a business standpoint they attached themselves to it they attached to a supplement they're probably making a fuck ton of money right now eventually that stuff will shift also and when it does shift you know you're going to see companies like ourselves that have stayed around still because of that versus people those same people will probably hop to the next trend just gimmicks man you know like you just got to be real informed as a consumer whether or not this is feels and smells like a gimmick it's probably the case next question is from Ev Dunn Tom Brady has a sleepwear line with bio ceramic material that was supposedly release your body's mechanisms to enhance recovery do you give this any cloud speaking of we're talking about gimmicks I know great great I mean we didn't plan these questions this way just kind of naturally float into each other it's nice I mean I'm glad we're talking about this we got the Super Bowl coming up this weekend with Tom Brady a lot of stuff around him around his diet around his exercise routine that he's doing and the latest thing is his partnership with under armor and this bio ceramic yes bio ceramic material that puts off infrared now here is an example and this is why I really liked when we interviewed the Juve guys and and and they really put me on to this game right because I'd heard of infrared before and I'd heard that there's some positive benefits behind it and they talk about that there's a difference between you know the positive benefits that you hear a lot of these companies making money off and then like the therapeutic dose of infrared and what some of these like high-end infrared like Juve or infrared saunas are producing and so and that's what he put us on to was like listen again like science always does some good science comes out we find out that infrared has these positive business for circulation and for skin and for recovery and then so everybody starts jumping on these red lights because it looks like infrared well no and you are getting some of that so if you're getting some of that I can claim those benefits this is an example of that right yes it is so so far infrared or infrared is a form of radiation and whenever you most materials will do this by the way if you heat them up with your body they'll reflect it back and some of it will come back as this infrared radiation now there are studies that show that far infrared has some potential benefits again if you look back if you want you can go back and listen to our episode where we interview the founders of juve they cite some of these studies and they are legit when it comes to skin issues when it comes to there's some interesting stuff with testosterone there's some interesting stuff with recovery but there's a you got to have a certain dose okay so I'm going to use another analogy just so this makes sense we all know that x-rays or can be carcinogenic right you don't want to go get blasted with a bunch of x-rays all in a row because we know that that is not good for your body so it's like you break your wrist you go to the doctor they x-ray you and there's a certain amount of x-rays that have to come through that machine in order to create that x-ray image did you guys know that when you peel clear tape when you peel open the clear tape or whatever you take off the roll it actually produces x-rays no it does the act of ripping it the tape off and the glue creates x-rays look this up this is common science is that that static electricity feeling that you get when you tear open so that I get that my net that's different but it's actually it does produce x-rays and I think peeling a banana creates x-rays are they going to cause cancer in you are they carcin no the dose is so goddamn small it doesn't even count so this material that they're creating on these clothes they're you know they're they're mixing it with the ceramic material supposedly it emits you know far infrared radiation back at your body most materials a lot like good marketing yep yep oh no it's brilliant because all they have to do is show the science that one little aspect all they have to do is say here's the studies that show that infrared improves these different things and then they have to show here's the study that shows that our clothing creates far infrared and then that's it they don't have to say anything else everybody else does their own they'll they deduce that right oh shit study says it works this creates it therefore cause is what I'm going to do it doesn't work that way here's another example I could create right now a homeopathic supplement that contains testosterone 100% I could sell it to be perfectly legal so homeopathic products contain microns of an effective ingredient so what they would do is they would take like one milligram of testosterone and they would throw it in let's say a swimming pool full of water and then they would extract that and then they'd say okay this teaspoon of water has some testosterone of course it does a super super super super small amount because one gram was thrown in this entire swimming pool and that's what homeopathic medicine is this but if I can do shit for you well I won't do shit for you because it's not enough take it a step further this is again brilliant marketing by under armor what do you do when you think like I bet you they came up with this product because of the response that everyone's thinking about oh my god Tom Brady's 40 years old what is everyone's talking about what is he doing you think that he's been using that shit for the last 10 years get the fuck out of here that product was just created last week dude or whatever it was he hasn't been using that to get him to where he's at right now his diet has a much bigger role and he does have an interesting diet I don't think it's a special diet I don't think everybody's going to do that diet and get the same effects but I think what he's identified with his diet is that he's identified foods that he has what are his responses to or intolerances to and eliminating those reduced his inflammation which is true you do that with anybody you take out the foods that their body has an immune response to they're going to have less inflammation the clothes no unless I see a study that shows that this particular piece of clothing is producing these effects don't show me a study that shows that it produces don't show me a study that shows that infrared has all these positive benefits and then show that your shirt has infrared it's just reflective material it's not even producing infrared a lot of clothing will actually do that sorry it's gimmicky but Under Armour will sell a shit ton because he's a badass he's a phenom he's the second best quarterback of all and when he wins this next I wish that were true when he wins this next Super Bowl again for sure that's watch these sales definitely by stock I bet you we see this commercial during Super Bowl for sure so I mean do you guys think that there'll be some backlash though with this particular shirt no you don't think so not at all here's why performance is a different category sports like that's the thing there's all this gimmicky shit well so he was do you know that part of this started from that he was wearing a sleeve for remember the copper he was wearing a sleeve to help speed up recovery on like one of his one of his shoulders I don't remember elbow or something that happened and so that had that helps promote this right so and now this is the full body suit going into bed or your pajamas or whatever that has all of it so and here here's the thing though here's the argument for it is that it it is it's going to be more positive than negative like if you think it works right right if it probably will right if it gives a little bit of positive benefits it's still better than none and so if you're somebody who has the money to just kind of throw and that's how I feel about a lot of supplements it ain't going to hurt you yeah like if you've got and that's why it'll do okay because it's not actually made detriment because we do know this I'll make this bed all day long is that good sleep is more important than infrared far infrared rays you're going to get from your pajamas and we know statistically speaking studies will show that sleeping with less clothing on is better than sleeping with more clothing on for sleep quality so there you go so if you want to save some money and fucking get more anabolic and sleep and covered yeah sleeping your underwear sleep naked balls and that's a hundred percent proven to improve sleep quality so that's a good way to but under armor you got some other good stuff so if you want to talk to my pump anyhow check keep shooting check it out go to our YouTube channel mind pump TV we've got workout videos on there we've got all kinds we got a webinar I think this is going to come up when this drops our webinar should have already been recorded where we answer some questions very interesting stuff check that out on YouTube and subscribe to our channel because we post new videos all the time thank you for listening to mind pump if your goal is to build and shape your body 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