And I do want to establish that we have our quorum. So I'll do a roll call. And then before I do that, though, I do want to remind the public that given the unprecedented circumstances resulting from coronavirus pandemic, Governor Baker did issue an order which gave us relief from provisions of the open meeting law. And this meeting will be conducted using remote collaboration technology problem. We'll go to our website and Katrina will give us guidance on that. So thank you. And we'll start with a roll call commissioner Cameron. Aye. Commissioner O'Brien. Aye. Commissioner Zuniga. Aye. Commissioner Stevens. Aye. I'm here. So we have established a quorum and we are calling to order the meeting today, public meeting number 77. Today is Wednesday, May 7th, it's about 10 o'clock and we'll get started with the approval of minutes commissioner Stevens. Sure. Thank you, Madam Chair. In your packet colleagues, you have the minutes of the May, excuse me, the May 13th, 2020 agenda setting meeting. I would move their approval subject to any corrections for typographical errors or any other non-material matters. Do we have any questions for commissioner Stevens? Ed, it's okay. Hearing seen none. Well, do I have a second? I'll second. Thank you. Commissioner Cameron. Aye. Commissioner O'Brien. Oh, commissioner O'Brien, you're just muted. But I could read that. Now my space bar didn't work to unmute me for some reason. Aye. Okay. Commissioner Zuniga. Aye. And commissioner Stevens. Aye. And I vote yes. I'll set on minutes and we'll start with our notes. Item number three, starting with our notes administrative update for we have courses on all of our agendas for meeting June 4th. Karen. Yeah. Good morning, everyone. I would suggest as usual, keeping that on. Okay. And can we plan on a good report on both reopening casinos and office? Yes, I think the, so what we probably want to decide though is whether you want a separate agenda item for the commission's approval of the COVID policy or guidelines that we've posed for the, for the licensees. So I was looking at the calendar. You know, I'm thinking, why don't we tentatively put that for the 18th? You know, we theoretically could do it a little earlier if we needed to, but that should give the casinos enough time. If we need to accelerate that, we could, but please put it on a hold for the 18th. Should we preserve time on maybe the 11th? Would it make sense to do it? I think that would probably be a better day because it gives everyone a little more time, but I don't know if we had a meeting schedule. I didn't want to be presumptuous. Well, while we're talking, maybe Jamie, I don't know if Jamie is necessarily, she doesn't necessarily on, but I can find out if that would work for us. But we'll put, let's tentatively plan on at least a meeting that week that would really focus on that. Does that make sense, commissioners? I think it does. I want to give people enough time. Right, and the fourth would be too early, but I feel like the 18th would be too late, right? The fourth wouldn't really work for you, right, Karen? I don't think so. We really want to get some best practices and get some information from the other casinos that are opening now. So we want a little bit of time to figure out what those lessons learned are in order to bring that to the commission. Sound good, Bruce. You all right with that? Yes, I am. Okay, good. Amike? Yeah. Thank you, and Eileen, I'll set. Okay, then we'll shoot for that week, the 11th, but we'll figure out a date that week, and I think that makes, and that's on the reopening of the casinos. What about office? So our office plans are continuing to proceed and working in conjunction with the guidelines from the governor's office for executive agencies. So that seems to be going fine. I think why don't we keep an update for the fourth? I believe that's the next meeting. And then at that time, we can decide whether you need some more information because right now the plan is, only essential folks would be needed. And so we have no need to open our Boston offices right now. So it is not as if we need to have everything set to go to reopen the Boston offices before the casinos open. Okay, so maybe just in the update, you would, and we could. We could. And also, I've been meeting with the group and also commissioner Cameron and commissioner Stevens. So they'll be able to, if they want to chime in on where we are, we could put an agenda item on the fourth, if you'd like them to be included, I'll defer to the commissioners to see how they want to handle it. Yeah, because I think that might be helpful just to educate everyone on what the executive offices are recommending so that the commissioners can chime in, maybe make it an item. Gail, what do you think? I like that idea. And I do think our staff really needs an update as well. It's really important that staff members I've talked to have asked me, hey, what are we hearing about the office and commuting and all those things? And so I do think the fourth would be appropriate and we could, yeah, I would love to say some things. And I know Bruce has had direct input as well. So that would be helpful. Enrique? Yeah, I think I agree. I think we should at least hear some preliminary plans. There is the potential for incremental costs. And I know a lot of it is in a state of flux in terms of what it might look like and therefore how much more it would cost. So at some point, I don't know, I would be ready for the fourth. At some point, I think we need to contemplate what those incremental costs might be. So to the extent that we would know some of those costs or be able to assess, that would be part of that discussion. Yeah, that or a future discussion. The point is that... Oh, you froze on me, okay? That's funny. We haven't seen you freeze, but you have frozen. He wanted us to hang on his word. And we are. I'm guessing that the point is that it may be evolving, but the idea would be to at least on June 4th, include an update that will be part of the agenda and not just the administrative update, not to minimize the administrative update, but it allows for more voices. That makes sense. Okay, excellent. All right, I'm really hoping that we, I'm gonna ask Mr. Grossman, do we have a legal issue if Commissioner Zuniga stepped away? No, he's probably gonna just join a freeze. So I think we can continue. We have our call on. So moving, anything else, Karen, for administrative update? I don't think so. I mean, that's the crux of what we're dealing with right now so I can see as we go and things are happening. So there may be some other matters before the 4th, but I can just add it at that time. Good. Mr. Grossman, regulations. Yes, good morning, everybody. Thank you, and I'll fill Commissioner Zuniga in separately on this one, but we do have one request. This comes by way of the Horse Race Committee. It pertains to a potential amendment to the regulations that govern the Race Horse Development Fund. So that's section 149.04. As you may be aware, and we'll certainly discuss further, and I'll invite Commissioner Cameron and Dr. Lightbaum to join me for this part of the discussion. It's helpful. The Horse Race Committee has been reviewing a new approach to determine the distribution percentage, which is otherwise known as the split of funds to be distributed between the two breeds, Thunderbird and Thoroughbred, from the Race Horse Development Fund. There's a regulation in place, the one I referenced that discusses it, but really only allows for the split to be conducted in the present way or the so-called old way. And the proposed amendments to these regulations would give the committee and ultimately the commission flexibility to perform the split either way, which gives the committee and the commission the ability to make sure funds are distributed a little bit more precisely. And so the committee is actually scheduled to discuss this further next Wednesday, the day before the commission meeting, but it would be helpful if we could place this on the commission's agenda in the event the committee recommends an amendment to the regs. And I can certainly fill all the commissioners in individually in the next week or so as to the ins and outs of this proposal prior to next Thursday. But it would be teed up for next Thursday? If possible, it's a timeliness issue in that when racing commences at Plain Ridge, we'll wanna make sure the split is in place. And so there have been some concerns raised about not having this in place prior to that. And historically there have been issues with splits being determined after the racing season has commenced. So if the commission is amenable to this and if the committee elects to make this recommendation, it may be helpful to at least tee it up for review on Thursday and perhaps even emergency adoption just so you have that option before you. Gail? Yeah, I think having the option is a good thing because I am wondering if the committee makes a decision on Wednesday if Thursday is enough time to get all the commissioners briefed on the rationale. So I think that may be possible if it isn't too complicated, the decisions of the committee and I can only speak as one committee member. But I think the option to have a vote is a good thing and if the commission needs more information or more time, we could push it two weeks which I still think would be before racing and before the committee actually makes a decision on the split. Well, I'm fine with adding that in but we'll just jump out of line our queue a bit but want to return to us but I do want to add for June 4th an update on horse racing. I'd like to understand what other standard bread tracks are doing, I understand they are opening around the country. I'd like to understand what we're doing about timing. I know that there was a short, short discussion on extending to an uncertain time and I think we need to revisit that, need to understand about what it would take to reopen at Plain Ridge with respect to what PPC would do, what we have to do and what the horse community would have to do to prepare the animals and to be ready. And then I'd like to go over also the plans, Gail you had asked for that on the health and safety plans and they did submit, but we didn't really discuss that and I have felt that we didn't, I know we made that decision, it seems like months ago but it was only a couple of weeks ago but we need to revisit that as the horse community does start to engage without fans in other parts of the country. Do you agree Gail? Oh absolutely, I think standard bread is certainly behind thoroughbred and a few have times to open but it's not a great percentage but yes, it is time to talk about it, we do wanna be responsive. So we'll get to that Alex, I know it was under review under this but we'll want to bring those up and then we'll have to carve out time next week I think for that because it will already be June 4th. Yeah, that would be wonderful. Okay, excellent. Probably you were thinking the same thing. Okay, good. So that would also probably give more context to the regulation discussion as well. All right, but what we could do is, as Gail suggested, put it on for the 4th at least to preliminary discuss what happened on Wednesday and then if we have to, we would have that extra meeting as well maybe if we needed to act which would give you another week. I don't wanna start piling on to that meeting though. Okay, great. All right, good, thank you. Karen, does that make sense for you? Karen? Yes, that's fine. Okay, good. Alrighty, any other regs, Todd? No, that's it for now, thank you. And I'm sure it's all gonna be very clear. Crystal. Okay, complicated, complicated. Number three, please. I'll set for the 4th. I think so, yeah. I agree, we're prepared. Excellent, I'm looking forward to it. And do you know how much time we should allocate? Marianne will probably appreciate that. Half an hour, Max? Max. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be a long discussion. And I think you think we need a vote for this? Well, I know the last time we talked about it, the other commissioners were gonna be brief. I don't know what the status of that is. I think the other commissioners stated in the interim. Yeah, is Carrie on? There she is, the unveiling. I think, I thought that this was, so this had been on the agenda in March and we were ready to go, we got bombed when everything started happening. And I think the plan then had been to just have an initial discussion and then potentially a vote the next time. So I thought that was what we were doing again. We had actually then been on for last Thursday and then we decided that with everything with the modern report, et cetera, it was too full of a day, so we bumped it out. So the question really is if the briefing is sufficient to vote on the fourth and we can, otherwise we can bump it out two weeks. It's not time sensitive, so either scenario works. So we have Mora from outside council joining us for the meeting. So I wouldn't need to notify her and she's available for the next meeting. I would check both dates then with her, with Mora and then see which one works. Okay. And could we schedule those two by twos? However, we're going to do those briefings as well. And Carrie would be conducting those. So are we talking about, because we had done two by twos before the March meeting and the commission hasn't yet had a conversation about this, that would have, the conversation that would have occurred in March. So is it just a refresher, the two by twos? Is that what we're saying? I guess any commissioner that was not part of living it live can ask to be refreshed. Otherwise we can just move forward. Right. Maybe it's just, if you could ask each commissioner if they would like to be briefed, perhaps recirculating the document now would be helpful. And then if you check in, and I'm sure it would probably be all of a half an hour, troop D and Carrie, perhaps you would do that unless you need Mora. But I guess perhaps the first step would be to confirm that she is available if you want her there for June 4th. Okay. Sounds good. Excellent. Okay. Moving on to item number four. Derek and Amike, the budget. Is the Derek on? I'm here. Do you want to speak a little bit to that? Good morning. Good morning. So we have our meeting with the licensees tomorrow to discuss our current budget estimates and for this coming meeting on the 4th, I really see it as a conversation to see what they bring back as far as discussion. We'll have a short document that lays out what our recommended funding is compared to the previous year, but it won't be the deep dive because we won't have been able to really take the recommendations from the licensees like we normally do work with senior staff and figure out what we can and can't do, but we will bring all their comments back to the commission regarding what they thought of our first cut and what it looks like at a high level. Amike. Yeah, that sounds good. And then we're still, we tried to have a second or a subsequent discussion at a later meeting, maybe for a potential vote and more of that detail. Yeah, we have it. That's the vote scheduled for the 18th. Right. Correct. Hopefully on the 4th, we can have the discussion because you won't see the details on whether you wanna have that vote on the 18th or have the 18th be a meeting where we give you the traditional package with updates that we were able to implement from the staff of the licensee recommendations and then come back at the next meeting in July for a vote after you've had a couple of weeks to review the material and get some public comment. Oh, sorry if I misunderstood. Okay, so we should probably think about our first July meeting is July 2nd, correct, Marianne? Sorry, yes, July 2nd. And that should give us some time. I saw a mark pop in. That should give us some time to get some clarification around the research and responsible gaming budget too. Yeah, we're having a meeting on that today actually, later on this afternoon. So all these things coming together. Yeah, a lot of moving pieces right now are pulled together for a package by the fourth, just it's more, it's gonna be a discussion with the high level memo. And that's fine. One of the things that's gonna be, I mean, I'm not uncovering anything new here is that there's, even though the budget is gonna sound, it's gonna seem very much in line with last year, there's items that have decreased that we were managing because there's been some incremental costs, some of which we cannot, we don't control. So that's the gist of the detail. And, but it's just to follow the procedure that we've always followed, getting that feedback and detailed discussion with license CDC is the next step. So I think we're all, we'll be all set for that schedule with the additional July 2nd meeting. Yes, the short of it is we're all set. Thanks. Can I just say there's no vote? No vote for the, on the four, okay. And likely, yeah, and likely no vote on the 18th unless the commission wants, has enough information from the meeting on the fourth to say we'll see the packet and vote on it on the 18th. We can evaluate that. It's always okay to reserve it, but. By the way, did we decide, and I'm sorry I cut off when I was talking last time, but did we decide that there's a June 11 meeting? And if so, could the 18 then turn into the 20 something? The 25th? No, we're still gonna stick to, the June 11th will just be an extra meeting to go over reopening for the casinos. Okay. So we'd go from June 4th for budget to June 18th for budget to July 2nd for budget. Okay. But you did, we didn't get a chance to go back to the point you were making, Enrique. I was trying to think of something funny that I could say that we assigned you in your, well, in your absence, but I can't come up with anything right now. It was actually, I thought the worst possible time to turn off is when you're talking over in these meetings. Yeah, because there was a good frame and Derek had a great line. Derek said, he's left us, he wanted to leave us hanging on his words, so. I shut myself up in some weird reason. No, I actually had, just in case people are curious, I had a number of files open on VPN and I went out and closed those and I was able to instantly. Oh yeah, you were competing, sure. I was competing with myself. Enrique, your point though that you were making was that you were raising the fact that with return to office work, cause we are all working very hard. Now, outside the office, there are likely incremental costs associated with particularly the cleaning, which would need to be heightened during this time and other costs. And so, Derek is working on the reopening of the offices. So that may have to be incorporated into the budgetary considerations as we figure out the reopening. But that's why it's important to have that comprehensive discussion because costs may be rising and we may need to think about all of that, right? Yeah, no, it's an important thing to consider. As we discuss how many people, what flexibility, if anything, et cetera. So, and that discussion means that your budget is going to have to also reflect those new costs, right, Derek? Will you be bringing that up with the licensees tomorrow? So we haven't really gotten straight guidance. I mean, other than as many people that can stay home should be staying home. And that's like until phase four of the governor's reopening plan and the executive branch as well as, they're recommending that for the quasi and the independents that are participating too. But there will be some in-person services that have to happen. And for those to happen, we are required to have the appropriate sanitization, the appropriate supplies, and the supply chain is broken right now. So the cost of these supplies has really gone up dramatically. We were working with the building on what the appropriate sanitization would be. At first, coming out of these working groups, it was at least four times. Through our contract right now, it's twice. So we would have to pay for two more in the high touch areas. So Joe and I are trying to get a price on that, trying to get a price on what's appropriate. And then is it four if you have 25% capacity or is it four for full capacity? And then you've got the cost. If you do have a actual case of COVID-19 in the office, you have to shut down and do a full deep cleaning. And these guidelines are coming out and through these working groups. So we'd love to share with staff, but we really don't have the finalized stuff yet because everyone's trying to work through it. And the price we got from the building for that is over $5,400 per instance. So, as you start adding those up, you can see why the guidance is to keep as many people home as possible if they can do their jobs from home. But we'll have that for you. And in the updates, we haven't built those into the budget yet just because we have supplies built in and we boosted up the supply line a little bit. But as far as additional lease costs for the cleaning that the building would have to do, we haven't done that because we don't have a final number or a final number of cleanings, additional cleanings that would be required. That's really helpful. It's also helpful for me to hear. I'm not sure if others knew that it was actually phase four. So that's helpful. And then secondly, I wanna make sure other commissioners ask any questions of you, Derek, but I think just raising it tomorrow with your meeting with the licensees that this is, of course, a fluid discussion is probably fair to put them on that that's an alert. And like I said, those discussions may change as these working groups change and as new information comes out. But right now with all the additional costs, the precautions to get into buildings, getting people over, transportation, adjusted schedules, queuing to get up into elevators. It's rather daunting. Well, we're lucky that we have integrated in with that resource through HRD because it would have been really complex. So good work. All right, any more questions for Enrique and Derek on budget and for anything for tomorrow's discussion of the licensees for them? Okay. Alrighty, moving on to the enhanced ethics update. I'm working on my revisions. I know Todd's worked on his with Bruce. A June 18th probably, I had hoped to impose that on myself is probably optimistic. So I would like to at least move it to, I'm gonna say June 25th is Community Mitigation Day. It's gonna, it would take some time to go over. So if we could have July 2nd, that would be great. If Bruce and Han think that's okay. There's no other way to kick off July 4th. I think that makes sense. Kathy, I think you skipped over item number five. Oh, I did. I'm so sorry. Cause I, you know, I saw budget year. So sorry. So budget item number five on Jill. Thank you, Bruce. Good morning, everybody. Executive Director of Mass Cultural Council, Anita Walker is all set to update you on the two programs that are a result of the Casino Revenue, Casino Mitigation Grants and a new Safe Harbors Program which is a program in light of the cultural organizations and the challenges that they have faced during COVID-19. So I think- We got her scheduled for first thing. Does that still work for Anita? Yes, thank you very much. Good. And I'm sorry. I looked at budget, discussion budget year. So now item number six, budget year 2021. We have that scheduled for the 18th for our vote. And that was what we just discussed. I don't know, I guess we just used a different, but it means for discussion year vote, but we'll just keep it discussion. Yep. And then- And then the July, early July for the final vote. And we should call that the final, the budget year 2021 vote. Okay. In early July. Not sure for July 2nd, but it's really a three-part discussion. We can just use the same. My eye went over it. Okay. Number seven, we just dealt with number eight. We're starting in with our Community Mitigation Fund presentations. This would be group one and we've got it down for a vote. Joe and Mary? Yes, and actually, before we go into Community Mitigation Fund, I just wanted to add one item in for the 18th meeting. We wanted to have something on for the PPC re-licensing. So, you know, because as- Joe, did you need it for the fourth? I'm sorry, I should have asked that. Actually, I thought maybe just in the administrative update, I can give two minutes because we're expecting a big tranche of information on June 1st. And we'll have had an opportunity to go through that and saying, all right, you know, they're making progress. We're expecting the final tranche of information on the 15th of June. So on the 18th, we'll hopefully be reporting that they've submitted everything that we need. And then at that point, we can have some kind of a vote and I'll have to work with Todd on what that vote's gonna look like, you know, to say that the application is sufficient and so on. And then we'll wanna work on a schedule for final approval, you know, for public hearings, et cetera, et cetera, on the license renewal. So if we can get a line item in there for the 18th, because I think we'll need to take some action on the 18th since there's a meeting. Madam Chair and Joe, this is Loretta. If I could jump in a moment. At the last meeting, we also spoke about a request coming from PPC regarding the renewal fee, a request to adjust the timing of the payment of the fee. I spoke with PPC yesterday. That request is going to come forth with. I wanted to check on any statutory requirements, attorney growth, and I had that conversation yesterday afternoon. So my suggestion is that you put that item on the agenda for the fourth. Okay. I believe it would require a vote because the payment of the fee is now a prerequisite for the completed application. So we'd wanna work our way through that as we move forward. So why don't we have on the fourth then a separate item, Joe, you can do your quick update. And then we'll move into the request regarding the fee. And then we can recognize at that time that we'll be taking action on the 18th. We'll need to take action on the 18th. If you needed more time, we can go up to the 20, is that the 23rd or could we go on the 24th even? 24th, I think is technically the expiration date. It would be so be midnight. Yeah, so we would wanna be no later than 23rd. Correct. All right, so that would give us a little cushion for anything that we couldn't address on the 18th. And I think the commission can say, if we had one or two things that were missing, that were forthcoming, we could still determine the application was sufficient potentially and saying, hey, we're gonna get that in a week or two or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah, but at least if by the 18th, that if we really had something that we said, but we really want this wrapped up before the 24th, we'd have a little bit of a cushion, which I like, just gives us that time. Okay, so the fourth, Karen, does that work? Yeah, yes, that's fine. Okay, anything else on the, Todd, on relicensing anything else that you could think of? All set? We're all set? Yes, yes, I think that's fine. The IB does have one other item for the fourth, a quick item, a determination of suitability for an MGM qualifier. MGM? Yes. I'm sorry that I jumped on without asking everybody on the June 4th out of rhythm. So, Marianne, were you able to get that okay? I see you nodding your head. Is there any other item from any other division staff member for the four? I just wanted to, are we going to go ahead and put something on that agenda on the fourth for reopening of Plain Ridge? Yes. Okay, great. I thought the items, we can talk about it more precisely. This looks like a pretty long meeting that we're developing now, but we need to get this work done. Yes, and Penn has come up with their plan and they've sent it, distributed it to me and to the horsemen. So there's a new draft document that we can discuss at that time. And I'd like to really discuss timing because I don't know if others feel like I do but I'm uncomfortable with it being so uncertain right now. So, good. June 4th, Gail? Yes, that's appropriate. Okay, excellent, Alex. Thank you so much. Thank you. That will be a comprehensive discussion. We're going to get to a lot of your items under review. Maybe most of them will come up into the June 4th agenda, Alex, but that will be on June 4th. Any other item for June 4th? Okay, now moving on to the 18th, community mitigation, back to you, Joe and Mary. Okay, yeah, we're on target right now. We just started our evaluations this week and we have a pretty intense schedule of meetings over this week and next week. It's my target to try to get information to you folks by the 12th, by the Friday, because, you know, as you probably remember from years past, it is quite voluminous. And so I'd like to get you, even if I don't get you the whole thing on that Friday, I want to get you at least a quick chunk of it so you have a little extra time to review that. So putting the pressure on myself to get it done. So logistically, I'm going to ask the question. I'm sure that all of us commissioners are thinking about, I've only done this once before, but the documents were in paper form in a big, big, big, big, big notebook. Harike is smiling because I think that Jamie says one of her best tricks was when she said, oh, when you close the book and said, I read them all.  It took me a year to read them. How commissioners would you like to receive this documentation because are you going to be comfortable if it's electronic? In my opinion, the memo that used to come in the beginning, which was some 20 pages, but it was a fantastic summary. A lot of the documentation that follows is a lot of details that back and forth information with questions and that we, I think we have to be able to rely on the team, the procurement, the evaluation team. So I think I would put that as an optional, maybe consult it online on the share drive or certainly electronically, but in my mind, those are two very different sort of documents. Yeah, I think last year we did streamline the process. Two years ago, it was extremely unwieldy with the amount of information that was out there just because there was so much. Last year we did do what we call the summary memo, which was still a lengthy document, but it captured everything. So what we may end up doing here is sort of two summary memos, one for the first part and one for the second part. I said, I'm not sure I'll have everything done for the 12th, but I want to get as much to you as I can so you have that to look at. And then what we can do is defer to Mary on this, but I think we can set up something in the share drive where we can put all the backup documentation and make sure everyone has access to that so that when you're going through the summary memo, if there's something that doesn't feel quite right about it or whatever it is or you want to delve deeper into that particular subject matter, we can set up probably a folder maybe for each project or I'll work with Mary on what that'll look like, but my thought is if we had a folder for each project that you could go into and then look at the particular backup documentation for that individual project, that might be the easiest way to do it. Mary, any thoughts on that? Yeah, that's pretty much how the files do get set up eventually, so we've got the basics already set up for that. Usually what we do on the first meeting is we put in a packet the requests for supplemental information and the licensees responses. The commissioners have already received all the applications and they've been posted on our website. We'll additionally be posting the response letters and the supplemental information requests. Trying to think. So the applications are on our website. I know that we've been getting the emails, it just would be probably a little bit harder for each commissioner to gather all that together, but they could go online for the applications themselves on the website. Maybe that's just an email for sort of pointing us to the right direction will be helpful for that guidance. The summary will be, I like the idea of the summary and then being able to go to the shared drive for backup, but if it's already online, don't shift it to the shared drive as long as we know where to find it, the applications. Yeah, so we can put the majority of the information right on the website so that any information we've received will be up there from the comment letters we received and everything else. In the summary memorandum itself, we put prior, before the analysis, we do put the response letters from both the licensees and mass DOT. So that'll already be in your memorandum. We also, generally we do not vote at the first meeting. We wait until we've done all the applications. And the reason being, especially this year, is there's gonna be a lot of deliberation regarding, especially on region one, because the requests have been so much more than what we actually have to distribute. Excellent point. So Mary Ann, what we can do is, with respect to budget and community mitigation, maybe have actually enumerate number one, number two, so it's a continuing discussion for our notes going forward, that we would just have the vote at the end. If community mitigation spills into a third meeting, we'll have just the vote at the end. Yeah, I think I would like to maybe reserve some time on July 2nd, just in case. We have 37 applications to go through, which is at least 50% more than we had last year. So everything goes nice through, but we just never know. I think that's really smart. And also it's just harder when we do things virtually. So to concentrate. And the truth of the matter is, my fellow commissioners, is that we can take a break from a virtual meeting too. So if we have a long one, let's just agree that if you need a break, you can immediately chat and we can do that or we can plan on a break too in our agenda. So I welcome that input from you now, or as you look at the agenda is going forward. Even if it's a break. Yeah, maybe the community mitigation review might be the first ones where we structure that, or at least plan on a break after a couple of hours. Somebody may need to make a fluffer nutter for their kindergarten. Oh, just so everyone's aware, I have to hop off for part of the 18th anyway. We've got a fifth grade virtual graduation late morning lunch. So I'm going to be missing a chunk of time around 11 and 12 30 ish anyway. So. Okay, so, well, let's think about that when we order it. When we... Yeah, I was going to say, if there's some of the smaller things you vote up, we could front load those to make sure I'm there. Mary Ann, can we call my commissioner, Brian, on that? So from 11 to 12 30, we'd be glad to have that. That's what we've been told to hold. We're not 100% sure, but that's what we've been told. Okay. On the 18th? On the 18th. Can we attend? I don't believe so. I think it's going to be very closely zoom controlled. Yes. But I can tell you all about it. Well, we'll look for that update. That can be at the end of the meeting your commissioner update. Okay. Cause I don't think you'll want to miss a lot of the community mitigation because that builds on the dollar. So we'll work around that. The PPC renewal vote too. So that I would be, depending on how concise that is, that would, I would want that front loaded if it's possible. At the beginning before you leave. Got it. Right. Okay. Joe and Mary, can you work with Mary Ann just to estimate, once you have a chance to think about the amount of time. And then what we might do is, is start and then break for commissioner O'Brien and for ourselves. And then if we return to some of our more succinct matters and commissioner O'Brien's absence, and then if we need to finish up the community mitigation at the end, that would be okay. Yeah, that works for me. I mean, I've, I've got my whole day open around commission meeting. So great. Great. And just, you know, in terms of structure, we'll just try to be, you know, really careful that it makes sense for us. Okay. In terms of just being able to keep track of the details. Anything else on number eight? And so that will be part one of three. Okay. Then Mark on forms of gambling paper. Hi, good morning. That's not a great description of what will be presented on the 18th. So our Sigma team has published a article in an academic journal, DMC Public Health. And the title of that article is gambling formats, involvement and problem gambling. It uses the baseline general population survey data as well as the baseline online panel. So two surveys that were yielded before the opening of casinos. But it specifically focuses on forms of gambling, which types of gambling are more closely correlated with risky gambling. I think it sounds like a great presentation and an important topic. So that journal is, the article has been published and I will go ahead and forward that to the team. And will that journalist be presenting it? Or will you be presenting it Mark? Dr. Bulbert will be presenting. It's one of the principal investigators on. Oh, okay, great. And then you'll coordinate with Marianne in terms of scheduling. Correct. So we're gonna have the budget, community mitigation and Mark's presentation. Any other, and then PPC relicensing discussion, anything else on the 18th? Did I miss anything, Marianne? Those four items? No, I think PPC renewal. That will require, we'll put vote for the 18th on PPC renewal. We will have just a few days in case there's something outstanding. And then those items, anything else from anyone, from the members of the staff or Karen for the 18th? How's that? Okay, good. If you can just, everyone work with Marianne because we do want to accommodate commissioner O'Brien. Moving on to a number 10 now. That's scheduled for June 25th. We'll keep a vote off at this point because I suspect we'll want to go on to July 2nd. If we need to attach a vote, if we get ahead, we'll make sure to include it in the agenda. But that would be part two of three. Okay, number 11. That's a total mitigation meeting. It's a second of three. Right. And it's just mitigation. There's nothing else on there. Yeah, that's correct. That meeting is just dedicated to community mitigation fund, which is why we're hopeful we will get through it. You know, that I think. Oh, that's right. It's a seven days. Yeah, thank you.  Like I said, I've got the whole day booked, so. That's right. And I can talk forever on community mitigation. Mary's smiling. So I'm not sure how much time we've put on June 25th for the commissioner's calendar. I know that we probably have limited it because of the idea that just virtual is difficult, but maybe if we did two hours in the morning with a break and then two hours in the afternoon or three hours in the morning with a break and then another hour and a half in the afternoon, let's just see how we do Joe. But we should put them. We'll just keep July 2nd, you know, loosely. Yeah, my thought was that July 2nd is just, I just wanted to have a little time reserved there just as a fallback in case we didn't get done. Well, and also in case we have questions from our June 25th that you need to follow up on, I think that's what I'm wondering about. Hey, Joe and Mary and Cathy, have you figured out the order or the grouping of the ones, the requests that we're gonna see at different days, it's just that there are some that are a lot more straightforward in my mind and others that are a lot more of a judgment call. You know, we haven't really thought about that, but just I think a little bit maybe on the first day we might wanna do a lot of the easier ones just to sort of ease into the process a little bit and because there's a number of other things on that agenda for that day. And then that leaves us on the second meeting, dealing with some of the more difficult ones or some of those ones where we know we are physically constrained on what we can give out and there's gonna be a little bit of back and forth on who gets the money and who doesn't get the money. And that's gonna be, probably those are gonna be a little bit difficult discussions at points in time, I would imagine. So I think that's at least my initial thoughts is let's try to do the easy stuff on day one and then tackle some of the tougher stuff on day two and then that leaves us a third day if we really need it. Okay, yeah, sounds good. Okay, so June 25th is not a regular day. I'm remembering that, thank you, Marianne. And so no more item on June 25th, but we are into July 2nd. We have, right now, Marianne, if you can remind us, right, for July 2nd, we have the ethics, we've got any mitigation? Any mitigation, yep. The budget year, 2021 vote. Yep, that would be the final vote. And then, that's it. So we'll go through what's under review and starting with the use of delinquency info. This is a discussion, Todd, with respect to potential change in the regulation or clarification in the regulation. That's right, you'll recall it came up as a part of a public comment in the sealed record section. It's just a placeholder at the moment. I don't believe it's time sensitive, so we can just keep it under review for now. Okay. But it's not necessarily even, it's mainly for discussion as opposed to a regular. It's a policy discussion, yes. It is, yeah, okay. Jill, workforce development grant update number 12. We could actually take this off the list. Off the list, I don't have any updates at this time. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Number 13, number 14, number 15, number 16, number 17, Alex. Yeah, if we could either put those maybe on the 18th or I guess the other possibility would be beginning of July. It's the 25th, not a, that's filled with. We've got horse racing on for June 4th now, right? Right. Are any of those items appropriate for June 4th? I mean, we could possibly do the recognition of the standard bed owners. You know, that's just gonna be a brief presentation. The other items are all things that would come up when, you know, closer to when they're going to reopen. And some of them may change because, you know, when they, I'm not sure if the same racing officials are gonna be available that they put on back in March. So can I ask this question, if it turned out that horse racing, we're starting sooner than later, would we be behind to not have addressed 13, 14, 15, 16 and 17 earlier? It depends on what you mean by earlier. I mean, those items can all be, as long as they're done a week or two before we open, they're, we're fine. You just need that much. Okay, that was really, I could have asked it that way. How much runway? Number 13 asks about requesting to race in the Finger Lakes in New York. Is that still a live issue? It's still a live issue. We've been in discussions with them about where they wanna do the races and they're just not ready at this point to bring it forward. So, go ahead. No, I'm sorry. Alex, any big changes on the racing officials? Item number 14, is that the thing? I don't know that there are any because that was a list that was done in March and I'm assuming that their officials are coming back just like I'm assuming our seasonal staff will all be available when we do reopen. But as you know, right now, Steve O'Toole is furloughed and Chris McElaine is doing the stuff at the higher level as far as trying to come up with the reopening plans and everything. So, I don't know if once they get closer to reopening and they hire their seasonal staff back if Steve will have some changes to that or not. So... This is why this is an important conversation for the fourth because I'm not really sure if I understand exactly who's driving the bus here. So, in terms of does the horse community and the racing community wait for PPC to make its decision on the casino reopening or are they independent? Or could they be or are they combined? And so I'd like to understand that better because the fact that somebody is furloughed shouldn't be what, you know, what really informs our decision-making. We really wanna understand what should, what the right policy and decision is regarding when horse racing should start. So I'm looking forward to the discussion to understand that interplay between PPC and the horse community and there may be legal considerations, Todd. I think Karen may have raised it with you. It's a question as to, I know that there's a condition to the license and I just wanted to understand that more in more detail. So... Yes, and they're around the country, they've been different. Of course, you'll have to look at what happens in Massachusetts and what's appropriate here, but around the country, there's been all different scenarios. There's been somewhere, it was tied with the casino. There was times when it was gonna open after the casinos and there's been times when they opened before the casinos. Right. Of course, we have to look at the guidance from the governor's office. That's exactly what we're talking about. We have that overriding. Then my question would be is the opening of the track tied to the reopening of the casino or could they be separate? That's really, it's both a question in terms of health and safety of all involved, but also I think a legal question. And it's an economic question. Well, then that's interesting to me that you said it's an economic question because I'm not sure if the economic, I assume it's economic question for all. Correct. Yeah. So let's start with June 4 and get fully informed. Gail, do you have anything closer to this than I am? I'm asking a lot of questions mainly because I feel a little bit, I just wanna be further informed. You're asking because it lets me know that all the commissioners are not clear on the dynamics here. And they are, frankly, unprecedented. So there's not a clear roadmap, but I think the more we talk about it, the more information we have, the better informed we will all be. So our decisions will be with the best possible information. Do any of the other commissioners have any questions they wanna make sure are addressed on the fourth with respect to horse racing? And I can get back to Alex and Gail, of course. Anything further? Eileen, you've mentioned the Finger Lakes that seems to be evolving, but we wanna know about that to the extent also that plays into the purse discussion. Right. The purse discussion is scheduled for the fourth as well in terms of the regulation that Todd proposed. So, okay. Thanks, I appreciate it. Can I just confirm, are we putting the standard owners of the masks on for the fourth or no? The recognition request? I think what we can do is get back to you as to how to frame out all the agenda for horse racing. But right now, I think you'd like to keep pretty much everything that's under review, Alex, under review. Yeah. But there'll be some of those more, just really to understand the decision-making on June 4th. Excellent. Okay. Getting through, guys. Am I right? Number 18, Game Sense Impact Report. Elaine and Mark and Teresa. Yeah. So I think both of these are on track to be presented in July. I don't think the first meeting in July, but perhaps the second meeting in July, we could go ahead and assign a date to it. Well, that's fine. I just want to also point out that, as everybody knows, Elaine Driscoll has exciting prospects and they'll be happening. She's not, I don't see her right now, but is it possible that she would be able to be part of the discussion in June, given her work on this? Sure, no, actually it's my full intention that Elaine, that we cover this before Elaine's departure. And so maybe I'm just not fully aware of what that date is, but absolutely I'd like to get this rolled out before then. Okay, so let's just say it's either the 18th or the 25th is a special date. So we're looking at trying to squeeze it into our busy 18th day. And if necessary, we would shift it to the 25th so that she could be included. The 25th of July? She, her last, I'm speaking for Elaine because if she couldn't speak for a while, I just don't see her popped up right now. I believe it's the end of June. Okay, all right, great. And if it turns out that you need to finish it up in July, another discussion, we'll just do that, but at least have Elaine present with you. Does that make sense, Karen? Yes, that's fine. Thanks, we can circle back to Elaine on it. Okay, yeah, I welcome you. Magic waves, one to four, number 19 mark. Right, that, let's see, I have a note about that. If we could put that on at the end of July, it should be ready for the, it's either the last meeting in July or the first meeting in August. That should be ready. Marianne, have you had a chance to look at the July, the last meeting would be July 30th. Okay. And so it's the second, the seventh and the 30th. Okay, let's do July 30th. It's kind of in the final stages of review right now, I'm confident that will be done in the next couple of weeks. So let's get it on. Okay, and you'll coordinate with Marianne when it's time about outside speakers. Correct. And then 20 mark. Yeah, you know, I think that we just need to keep this under review. Some of the hold on this has to do with our operators and making sure that they're pulled into the loop. And obviously there's a number of factors at the later. Just so you know, our communications director has indicated she is with us. She's just having some internet issues. So she'll coordinate, I'm sure she'll coordinate back on the other item. And we're keeping number 20 under review and then nine update on the section 97. If you want that under review, or do you have a date you think for that one more? I'm sorry, I was number 21, needs to remain under review. Number 20, believe I'd like to also have that be coupled with the game sense impact report, largely because it's also a project that Elaine has been key, a key player on. Okay, we'll see. Then June 18th. And by the way, I don't think either of these agenda would be very long agenda items. I think they're short sort of announcements. Okay, and we've got, that's kind of an interesting day anyway, because we're gonna have a little bit of a break to a break. Okay, so let's put those two items on for the 18th then. And if somehow that pushes you and Elaine in a direction that is difficult, we'll just take it off. Okay, that's good. All right, thank you. Thanks, Elaine, I'll connect with you on that. Okay, great. And then now back to Jill on the template. Yep, we're still under review. Okay, good time to be actually thinking about that for the future, okay. And then number 23 compliance update. That's under review. I know that's a big haul, Karen. Yes, that'd be something we do after the casino's reopened. So we can keep that under review. Yeah, and then Enrique, your new England gaming market update. You know, it's still under review, but I do wanna talk to you and Kathy and maybe Karen and Elaine offline and think about this item next steps. Okay, next steps, next steps on this, especially I'd love the input with her history of Elaine before she leaves on this. And just so everybody, I'm sure everybody on the call knows Elaine is not actually leaving. We're very proud that she's off to Harvard University at the Kennedy School to get her masters in public administration. You've seen the announcements and she is very fortunate, but most of all deserving to be a Bradford scholar. Fortunate because she will have all of her bills associated with her Harvard education paid for, deserving because it was a very competitive process and she was one of three selected for this. So she's not really leaving us. She's just gonna be getting smarter. So we, and I think I just saw a square light up that's associated with her phone. Do you wanna say anything, Elaine? Elaine, is that you? No, it wasn't, but I thought you were a little like you said. Hopefully heading to get smarter and I'm very grateful for the opportunity, so thank you. So just because of scheduling, we did a little informal announcement, but more will follow publicly to again, give you full credit for and make sure your send-off is with the right flair. It's an 11 month commitment and we're going to miss Elaine terribly, but we know that we have, we know where she lives, we know how to reach her and we also will be working with a good plan for continuity of services. So thanks, Elaine. I just know we wanted to get your couple of items in for June, if that works for you and Mar. Hey, it's hard to believe you can get any smarter, Elaine. All right, any other items for our July meetings or even back on the 18th of the 4th? Karen, have you thought of anything? No, I think we're good for now. We've got plenty going on. All right, if I hear and I'm hearing no other additional items, I'll need a motion for an adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Any second that?  Okay, I just want to say we miss you all and stay safe and we will have our roll call vote. Commissioner Cameron. Aye. Commissioner O'Brien. Aye. Commissioner Zuniga. Aye, thank you everybody for all the work you do. Commissioner Stabbins. Missing everybody on the team and I know everybody's doing a great job. And I'll say aye. Commissioner Stabbins, you can share any cute doggie pictures that you want anytime. He's not in here with me right now. I'm not sure where he is. He's a lot smaller than Derek's dog. I do know that. All right, aye vote aye. We have a five zero vote for an adjournment. Thank you everyone. Safe. Bye everybody.


to share with us on how Nanyang Technological University, NTU, uses WordPress in classrooms. So Philippi is an assistant professor in the School of Physical and Mathematical Sciences in NTU, while Joan is a senior librarian at the library. She collaborates closely with the faculty and other users to design blogs, provides consultation and training on applying appropriate social media tools and strategies in their work. So let's welcome the both of them. OK, thank you, everyone. I'm here physically. Philippi will be here virtually. He will appear later. Sorry, because he got to be in Surangkana. OK, so hi, my name is Joan. I'm a librarian with NTU, Nanyang Technological University. And I came in touch with WordPress maybe four years back because of my job in NTU. Because the library supports the university blogging platform, which is on WordPress. So how it all started is, OK, this is a typical day in the life of a professor accent, NTU. So NTU now actually moves towards this pedagogy called the Flick Classroom. So you will see that means the students actually has to study first about the subject. And when they come to the classroom, the professor only facilitates. So the professor have two options. How do I do a Flick Classroom? I can use a BBIs Blackboard, which is a learning management system, or it could be WordPress. So our working relationship is designing the request. The library actually supports together with the IT department. And then when we receive the request, we work with the faculty closely to create the content. Maybe you ask why the library is doing this instead of the IT department. The library is in this role because we see the content differently. We are the specialists and the professionals in looking at information structure. And later I will share with you the case study and you will understand why the library is involved in this. OK, by the way, this is Philippe. And he's going to talk. Because he was away, so he especially got the IT to do this video for the talk. Mr. Microphone? Just play. Sorry. I said, can you play the flute? Sorry. Sorry, sorry, give you guys a flood. Can you just play first? I can't do your volume. Oh, maybe we need to control. Control. If I got there, and I teach chemistry at NTU, the problem I see with teaching hard for sciences, such as chemistry, is that there is a disconnection between the concept and the real life. The concepts that people can understand, all the advances to come from, let's say, new mathematical compounds, drugs, it's very easy to understand, or it's a new drug, that they don't understand that there is a lot of chemistry behind it, for example, or chemistry behind the materials. It's very difficult for students to understand, translate from what they study to the actual real life. So this is why we decided to go with these blocks. And the block will help them produce the video. The block is used as an script. What did they need to do? They need to find out the chemical concept they want to talk about, explain it, see how it is applied to society. And also, the block will be a catalyst for accounting everything they do at the week, their meetings, and all the activities. Because after all, one of the big differences is that rather than going from individual work as traditional courses, they do have to work in groups. So the task is to map as a group. They need to be able to develop software skills. So nowadays, most international companies, they are assigning, the assignments are nine teams. So they need to learn how to cope interacting with other people to finalize a task successfully. This is why we decided to do the blocks, which was a small task. And why did we decided to do the blocks in WordPress? Because WordPress is, the work pages in the world are done by WordPress. So it will bring them some skills that they will really be able to utilize outside the course.  Okay, just to share the case scenario, how he come about his chemistry course is actually with, for the case study, I'm going to share this with 306 students in 51 groups. So there will be a weekly exercises with four questions, and he wants them to have a final script, each group, and two video submissions on a assigned topic on chemistry. And then he also wants for peer evaluation. So usually, when the professor comes to us, he will just give us this kind of vague requirements from the instructors, but we need to kind of transcribe the requirements into something that works on WordPress. So, as an example, we look like there's a group, so maybe they should have individual blocks for the each group. Then we need to have structural content of so-called the required final script. So we work with him, like he needs them to come out with what is the method, what is the concept of the assigned topic, which is chemistry, I don't really understand. Then how do they upload the videos onto the main blocks, and how do the group tracks their progress on the block that he could read it on the course block, the main block. So based on that scenario, we actually come out with the structure together with him. So every student, we will share with them, like they need to talk about introduction, about the team, chemical concept, implications to society, minutes and assignment. Actually, before I need to do this presentation, I didn't know how the students felt, but when the students shared with us that forcing them to structure that essay this way in a group actually helps them to really think through how to write it so clearly that everybody who reads their course block, their group sites will understand the concept easily. Instead of you write your own paper and you could really get into all the chemical jargons. So the blocks actually do help them to think through the concept better. And then how to manage like group minutes. For him, this is his view. We have to customize and fix, WordPress allows you to password the page. So we password protect it for him. And then he could look through all the different minutes that is shared by the students who is more prolific meeting, who is not really meeting, who post the meetings, et cetera. He could view it from his own course block, which is, this page is restricted to him. Then of course we also need to talk about the workflow. When we come up with the structure, it's not just a technical thing. We actually need to look at the workflow like he has a weekly exercise with four questions each. And then he needs to be able to self-create questions. You can understand that researchers are very busy and usually maybe on that, if before the class then he can come up with a question. So he needs to be able to be comfortable and text savvy enough to post the questions himself. And then he wants the students to actually, he himself for his questions actually need images because it's chemistry. He needs to have mathematical formulas because again it's chemistry. And the students after they submit the exercise, they need to only see their own submissions and not the others. And then also the students must have an option to submit text or using images. So when he gave us all the requirements, we kind of need to work closely with him, test, do a mock-up and then let him try out whether he's comfortable with the workflow before we roll out to the students because he's a big class and if there's an error it's very hard to call back. This course has run for the third time. So actually there has been iterations even for the third time because every time he's more comfortable with work press, he's more comfortable with technology. We kind of know what's the class requirements better. So he's looking at this participatory teaching methods that he wants the students to really discuss more and do peer-to-peer learning on their own instead of depending on him feeding the information. So the blocks actually help work press actually helps to do that. So first we remind ourselves we think of usage not the design because this is really about teaching. So everything like for the instructor, cost curriculum, we need to look at his curriculum. He's preferred engagement style like does he wants the students, he wants to receive email notification when the student post or he's okay, he's comfortable to just read it off the block and what is his technology comfort level? What is the future integration? When I say this is like this course we have run for the third time. The first round actually we treat it like this is the first test. If it's good, it stays, it's not good. That's it, we are not going to repeat the class. It's a huge class. But then it works. And then after the third class, second class, second month actually we consider how to archive good content from selected students groups. And then of course we need to speak to the instructor, the Alingo. I mean, there's no point that I tell him, okay, you can use this plugin, then we're going to put the code here, then you get this, it pulls here, he doesn't understand. So we have to explain to him in his language. Then we of course also have to think of the student's usage. Like what is the student's comfort level? Different students actually, some students are more tech savvy, some are not comfortable. There is a different access points also, meaning some students use laptops, some use mobile phones, some use tablets. How are they assessing the blocks? Different devices, different access point, like on site, off site, they do it from school campus network, away from school campus network because course block is restricted. So what we did was, this is actually a slide from our IT. We did this one-time login using case. The case service is a ticket-based authentication token. So when the user clicks to login to the block, the user actually get forwarded to the case server login and then via the case client, then the user has to authenticate using the NTU username and password. And actually it will just issue a ticket and then the ticket will pass to our so-called active directory, the database where all the users' information is there. It will check and then if it is okay, it will pass it back and then the user can access the blocks. So this is how we want to make it very easy for the students so they don't have to remember a separate password. Of course, we also looked at, most important, the versatility and flexibility. What I mean is that the whole platform has to be very fluid, is to be very easy to adapt or change along the course timeline. And then it must also have the ability to modify easily, not only by me and my colleagues because we are the people who have been doing the WordPress administrator, but also by the students and the faculty for their own content. So the plugin we use is actually formidable forms plug-in. I'm not sure if anybody is familiar with this plugin or have you used? This is a very powerful plugin. Yeah, but we use it as a class. We don't use it like a real form kind of thing and I will show you what we use it. And we use another plugin called MyClass plugin to do the class management. So for MyClass plugin, what we did was actually, because this plugin allows you to connect multiple sites on your MU environment, multi-site environment onto one another site. So he has his own main site and then he could manage their restriction, whether the students can post, whether they cannot post, whether he can and he can read them directly also. And depending on how we set the restriction, actually the students can also read them and they can comment directly from one page instead of going to every individual pages. So this is very useful for managing multiple sites content. Then we talk about the formidable form plug-in. What we did was actually use it for the weekly form submission. So we have to keep it very simple for him. We don't expect him to go and create, I mean the instructor, Philippe to go and create the form. So what our team did was we create the form, this form A, I should call it form A, for him to submit his questions. And then after he create, submit his question, it will fit to this form B, which the students can view and then they can submit their answers. So it looks like this. And then after the students submitted all the answers, it will appear into this format with the questions and the answers. And the students will get a copy. They can only get their own answers. And then he himself, again under a protective view, will actually get to see all the submission. And because his class is huge. So you know, you cannot expect him to go through like Triana over a student submission. So we also use formidable form to do the filtering. So formidable form actually is very powerful and it allows you to have the filtering entries. So if you set the parameters, you are able to actually the view under the parameters under the view you can actually sort it accordingly, automatically. So it's very convenient for him. Okay. So likewise we use the same thing for the peer evaluation because initially he was like, that's a huge group. There's 51 groups of them and every group have six students and everyone they will be disagreement because they come from different schools coming together for one program. So they want to be able to have a place for them to voice out if they like their teammates or they dislike their teammates. So this is the peer evaluation. So by selecting the group, they will only see their own teammates name then they could make the options. But most important is the bad end thing where he could actually filter again the results by the groups or by the name of the students. So it's very convenient for him. So most important is about interruptions and engagement. You have seen Philippe, so now I'm going to let you see his student. They have very kindly volunteered to be part of this video. I think we just started this project. We faced a lot of difficulties because we were very new in the area of editing blocks or editing videos. However, throughout the project we learned a lot from both our professors and our teammates. So throughout the project they actually learned new skills like video editing, like long game, you know. And this I believe will be very helpful in our jobs or any other projects in future. One wonderful thing about technology is that it saves us a lot of time. Instead of having to submit our weekly assignments physically to our professors pigeonhole, we can now upload our assignment answers onto the block instead. And so that helped us to save a lot of time and be a lot more efficient. I think the principle of technology accessibility is definitely the one that I will go for because blocks and videos, they are online 24-7 while professors are humans themselves who need rest. So with these blocks online, they actually access them anytime on our own convenience to be able to see the videos and actually replay them in case with any issues. Yeah, I guess this is the biggest takeaway of how I leverage technology to actually learn accessibility 24-7. Because it's a very fun and interesting way to learn. There's a difference from the usual lecture tutorial style learning. And like what my professor once famously said, everyone can study. But in order to differentiate yourself from the rest, you've got to have other soft skills such as communication and collaboration skills. We could really see that the students learn more, the grades were slightly higher. And also the material they produce, the blocks and the video, were really professional. I was really surprised to see how much time they put on something that they refuse or they object at the beginning. I really think it was a success in that point. The students were at the end really engaged on their projects and trying to make the most out of it. As well as relatively happy to work in teams because they managed to meet people from different backgrounds or not like the friends. Okay, so actually this course has a story. If you go to, I forgot, it's called some NTU students' Facebook. They are some of the students' projects. When the first time we roll out, the class user enrollment is 300 plus. It drops to 180 because they were like, oh, there's so much work and we have to do this this block thing and video thing. And then the second round, we actually have the enrollment backup because the review was good and he actually got a teaching award. I mean, Philippe last year I actually got a teaching award because of the interaction he got and the feedback from the students. So yeah, with that, I end with the students' nice pictures. There's a huge bunch of them but I just randomly pick a group picture. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Thank you, Joan. Thank you, Joan. So any of you have a question for Joan regarding this? Anyone? Yes. Hi. I'm a bit of a novice at this so pardon me if my question is too big. For the MyClass plugin that you use, could you use it like if you had a service and you had clients and then you wanted to create portfolios for the clients that only they could access? Could you use it in that way as well? Portfolio for your clients, meaning individuals. If you were a service provider of some sort and you had different clients and you had to show them what you've done that you wanted to put on your website. So could you sort of flip the model so that when they signed in, they could only see the work that you've put up for them and not the work you've put up for your other clients, let's say. Could it work that way? It could, but I wouldn't recommend because I think if you just create the site and restrict and then give them the access might be more convenient rather than going through this plugin thing and then they have to go into the dashboard, they have to click and they have to go to another interface. Because you see the students need to see all the different, their classmates group blocks also. That's why it makes sense. So I'm restructuring myself, Yuni. And I was wondering, I mean that seems a lot of back-end work, a lot of back-end that you need. So you've got, I would have set this up myself.  Are you from NTU? I am, I just, I really email to, I think I email the library to, I'm a guest profiteer from Sweden, but I keep staying in there, so I'm watching. Then it's very fast because you have us. I've been here, I've been back to Sweden and that's why I want to implement this. I have to somehow convince them.  So people keep working the back-end, but I mean how much, if I were to pitch this to try and get it started. I mean, rough estimate of how much work I would have to do in my requisition. Oh, okay. Again, it depends on your class size. So for Philippine's class, it's a huge class, but I think we get it out quite quickly. So maybe give us a big time, but we did all the exercise for him upfront with dummy exercise, so he could just change the questions quickly and publish it. But it meant more that sort of the organization point of view, like how to buy person hours. Oh, no, because NTU, I don't. I'm going to now pitch it back home. I want to say, hey, I want to start something like this. And they say, okay, well, how many hours of person hours do you need to buy?  It's actually manpower because WordPress is kind of open source free. The plugins we use is free, so it's the maintenance, it's the manpower. That's exactly my question. Yeah. How much was that? We could do a training for you. Okay, it's very easy, like building up to numbers, because for me, the four is very powerful. All you do is to go on, get all the drag and drop, and then you can set it up like waiting a couple of minutes. So if anybody will do an illustration of how formidable form can be used, I can do that for them. So I can teach you my business car and the cashier of just a couple of minutes. And I think that's the beauty of WordPress, it's the speed of implementation. So you cut all this parking, and you park it in a very fast. Yeah. Formidable form is just drag and drop, but you need to, depends on what's your requirements. So if you go to the forum, a lot of people also give the script to how to pull the things, depending on how sophisticated you want, what you want to do. So yeah, I could give you the links, and I can also share how to do your own installation. Yeah. Take your team to get all of this up and running. For this single site, because we managed the whole university site. What about the other side? I think about week. Week. Yeah. But then the, it's like not, the whole team is doing this. Yeah, so. Yeah, maybe about two people. The package this and release this as an open source project. Ah, I'm asked, how's my boss? Where is he? I don't know if my boss is here. Is there any particular reason why you chose this package instead of something like one dash, which probably packages every all of this functionality and it has a lot of extensibility. We actually also purchase Lundash. So we actually have two installation. One is supported by campus press. So this example I show you is under campus press. So campus press is hosted solution. So we cannot install our own plugins, but we use Lundash for our own self-hosted one. And we do, yeah, use it for other classes. Because it just seems a little bit too complicated to go through formative forms and then other plugins is to add functionality, which is already pre-packaged in single plugin, right? Makes it so much easier and faster. Yeah. Any more questions? I think the lady at the back. Yeah. I think my question feeds into what Jay-Z has asked. In addition to Lundash, did you try other alternatives such as Moodle, which is, again, open source, learning management system? We are looking. And compared with setting up something like this. Actually, we are looking into it because one of the schools actually use Moodle. And Moodle is very good with mathematics symbols. With a lot of other alternatives such as setting up quizzes and self-learning platforms. In terms of the response you received from the students as well as the teachers, I mean, do you know what's? Yeah, actually, there's a lot of platforms up there. I haven't really explored Moodle, but I saw the demo from the school that used Moodle. So the quiz function is very easy to use also. But for this chemistry case, he only used the weekly submission and he also wants them to do the block thing as a task. So the group block things. That's why we didn't want the students to be going to multiple platforms or go into one. Okay. Thank you, everyone. If you want to ask other questions, you can always look for me. Thank you.


and welcome. This is Melissa Armo with the play of the day, which was HPE. It took all day to go. I mean, but it held the stop and that's amazing. And luckily I could stick around and look at this today. I mean, it was just one of those things where you never really know what's going to happen. And it certainly had most of the move in the morning. And what I found with gaps is that the 80% of the move happens into the open. And I know that. But unfortunately, we did not get this out of the game today. It had the biggest move right away. And nobody saw this. I mean, I luckily saw this then on my scanner. I don't know what time it was, but I saw it up here. There it is. It's in there. So this was not here in the morning. So it was weird, weird and strange, but it was not there initially. And so I saw it then late. We took it then late. In fact, let's go run. No, I'll show you this here. I don't think anyone should be in this now. It's getting close to the close, but it did take pretty much all day to work. So everybody made money in this if they stuck with it. Who was the first move, which I would have gotten if I'd seen it, but I didn't. So hindsight's 2020, but I can't, you know, pull these things out of thin air. If I don't see them on any scanner, then it's impossible for me to do them or rate them or even look at them or see them. This did have pre-market volume. I'm not sure why it didn't show up anywhere. So anyways, long story short, oh crap, this is still going. Look, look at this. I don't think anyone should be in this this late, but look, that just went to 75, 74. This is going to, this is going to, look, it's going to keep dropping into the close. It's very risky to be in something this late. I think everyone should be out of this, but this is probably going to fall right into the close. Look at that. Anyway, it's getting back to what I was saying. I saw this late and I felt the target really was 1560, which it's getting to right now. It's just going to run out of debt, unfortunately. I don't think this holds necessarily though, you know, I wouldn't do this overnight with the move it had today, but if you look at it, stop was 1610. It held, held, held, where they took it at 95, 94, 99. It had plenty of places to add and even take more later. As the day went on, it held to stop. It was looking really, really good. And I mean, there was a great placement of the stop fell, fell, fell. So initially it was about 15 cents, 20 cents. You could have added and then it got even better. And then you could have done a 10 cents stop. So this was a good size stop, 10 cents, 15 cents. This is good, which means basically what you can make good money and take, if you plop on the size in it with a small move, which is really all this had. I mean, really 25 cents in here. But I mean, I don't, I don't know if anyone would even be in this, but I said, really to myself, I have to determine a number and where's the number. And to me, it was through the low. So 1581, 1580, it went past that, but you have to have a set amount in your head. Then we're going to say, I'm going to get out of the trade. I don't think it's a good idea to be in the trade until 359. But I don't know what anybody did with this because I did lead everybody kind of manage it on their own. Hell to stop. It's a profitable train. Didn't move that much, but with the entry and the stop and the amount of risk, it was, it was a really good trade. And so what are you going to do? I mean, you've got to take what you can get. Remember, it's getting into the end of the month here. Earning season doesn't start again until September. We have a few straggly earnings out this week, a few big names Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and then that's pretty much it. The month is done and we'll have to be very careful whatever we do before the holiday. So we will see what happens tomorrow morning with the big names that are out. In the meantime, HPE is here, did it. It's great. Everyone should be out of this. Five minutes before the close. Hopefully everyone is out of it. It was profitable and we'll talk about this more tomorrow, but I'm glad that I did this. It was late. I wish it would have gotten in the open, but I never saw it. Just one of those weirdo things. So have a good day everyone. If you're interested in more information, email me at Melissa at thestackswush.com.


Good morning, everybody. Today is Monday, February 4th, 2019, and I get to actually watch the markets again today. Checking Forex Factory here. We don't have too much going on. We have a factory orders at 10 and loan officer survey tentative. So not much. That's it. Not much going on. That's a good thing in my opinion. And as always, let's wait for a good signal to show about 30 minutes into the opening bell. It's been a pretty quiet, uneventful day in the market so far. The markets seem like they don't know where they want to go. Spy very flat, completely flat, actually, to use a little bit more active to the green side. So just always trying to be patient. Man, we're getting a cell signal here on spy. Nothing else has turned, really. Let's wait until we get closer to the candle closing. Went ahead and bought two puts of the 26950s that expired in two days. Bought them at 120. I'm gonna keep my stop-loss really tight, especially because we got such a big candle here. So let's see how it goes here. The only thing I really, really, really don't like is the cues. The cues are just up pretty big. My stop-loss is going to be 26970. If it gets back up there and closes above 26970, I'm going to cut loose with a loss. And there it is. And I sold at 105. Sold at 105 for a $30 loss. Yeah, the cues are just still ripping. In fact, the cues just made a new high. New high of the day. Let me show you my trade of the day. Bought two at 120 and sold them both at 105.  Look at that. Those are three big giant one-minute candles. They're relatively speaking. So, and then if you go back, and look at this, the XXB coming back down again. The cues, the cues are completely ripping. And so nothing is in sync. I should have known better. I should have known better to get in on this trade. But hey, that's okay. That's my system. And we are, we're good. We're set. I'm happy. I have my rules in place. They are there for a reason. And I'm happy I followed them. What's up, everybody? TG, I am. Today is Monday. Fabulous Monday. But I did place a losing trade as you saw in that video. That is okay. Absolutely okay. I feel like I should have known better after watching the cues, watching the XXB and how they were trading, what general direction they've established. And I went against the grain. But nonetheless, I traded my system. I made a good decision in getting out where I did. In my opinion, it's all a work in progress, always a work in progress. So I'm really happy about that. How about that Rams Patriots game? Unfortunately, unfortunately, I was a Rams fan for the Knights, and they didn't win, obviously. It was probably one of the most boring Super Moles I've ever seen actually, at least in quite some time. But congratulations to those Patriots. This is good. This is good that I am losing. I am not necessarily losing money, but I am conditioning myself and not holding my losers as, you know, for a very long time. Now I got to work on holding my winners for as long as possible, so to speak. But always a work in progress, guys. Thank you so much for watching today's video. Comment down below what you thought about my trade today, what you made money on, what you lost money on, any tips, tricks of that sort for anybody, not just me, but for anybody watching these videos. We would all greatly appreciate it, guys. We're all in this together. We're playing the same game, just with different tools, different ideas. So thank you so much, everybody, for watching and greatly appreciated. Don't forget to hit that subscribe button down below. Like and share my videos. Awesome. I hope everybody has an awesome Monday. See you again here for tomorrow's trade.


I'm Jian Peng-he from Tetrate. I work in E-Store for the last three years. And you may know my GitHub ID as Zirin. And hello. Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Zhou Huxu from Huawei Cloud. I've been working in E-Store for the last six years. Yeah. And I'm very happy to be here for the first time to speak in person in KubeCon and E-Store today. Yeah, thank you very much to be here for the last topic. And today, our topic is how to do route search rotation with no downtime and no problem. OK, let's get started. First, look at our agenda today. First, we'll talk about some backgrounds to let you catch up with our rotation workflows later. And then we will talk about how we rotate route certificates in previous old E-Store revisions. And then we will talk about our inventive route certificate rotation solution. And then we will have a demo at last. OK, let's first introduce the basic authentication model in E-Store. I think most of you are familiar with these pictures. The first part is that in our Ingress Gateway, we will terminate TRS on the edge with user-specified certificate. And the second is a workload-to-workload communication with MTRS. Yeah, the third part is that the Ingress Gateway will help us originate TRS on the edge with user-specified certificate. And we can deploy, make use of them on demand. OK, let's take a look at how we can set up the certificate on the edge. This is on the right side. This is an example how we can set up Gateway credentials. First, we have to generate a certificate and a current and store them in a Kubernetes secret. Then we should configure the Ingress Gateway using the E-Store Gateway API. On the left side is how E-Store manages the certificate. For more details, we can take a look at E-Store.io. There is a task. Demonstrating this example. OK, then we talk about how workload communicates with workloads in the mesh. So take this example. Sleep needs to communicate with HTTP. Both of them are injected with side cars. This is very, very familiar to most of us. The most important part is that E-Store.io will issue a certificate for both Sleep and HTTP. And Sleep will use the certificate here to communicate with the HTTP service. So the certificate is passed here. And we can see here this is validating duration. And then the most important part is the identity part. Here we can see that the identity is type of specific with this domain and the name space and the service account. The right side is the raw certificate selection. The top part is a workload certificate. And the lower part is a root set. There are two ways of signing workload certificate in E-Store. The first mode is that E-Store.io. We will work as a CA authority. It will help workloads send their certificate with their own identity. For the example, at the last slide, Sleep and HTTP both have different identities. So we send different certificates to them. And the second mode is that E-Store.io or E-Store.io can integrate with Spire. So in production, we actually recommend the more secure and the easy way to sign workload certificate. But we have to make sure that we are familiar with both Spire and the integration solution. OK, the next part, I will talk about how E-Store.io can self-sign the workload certificate. Because most users for Simplity, they can just use E-Store.io to sign their workload certificate. And here, our topic focuses on the E-Store.io self-signed workload certificate. The first one is that E-Store.io can act as a CA. So it don't need any other configurations. When it starts up, it can automatically self-sign the certificate to workload. And then the second part is the RA mode. It will use Kubernetes to send certificate. We can see that it integrate with Kubernetes and use set manager, customer say, or anything, whatever. You can use that to sign the workload certificate. And here, we focus on the second mode. It is also CA mode. But we plug in CA signing certificate to E-Store.io. So this is the simple way we can commonly used to manually manage the bias and revocation of it. OK, let's take a look at what is plug-in CA certificate. In production workflow, we should prepare intermediate CA certificate with a safe CA. So the root CA must be on an offline machine to be secure. And then we need to create a secret named CA-SERV and mount it to E-Store. And the E-Store.io will detect and watch the search and initialize E-Store.io CA server. And then at last E-Store.io, we start up CA server and ready to sign workload search. This is the basic workflow. And we focus on how we can rotate root CA here. So before 1.20, the basic workflow to do root search rotate is signing a new intermediate here, CA-SERV, and then update the CA-SERV secret. And then E-Store.io reloaded for CA server and XDS server. And then we need to restart all the workloads in the mesh to pick up the new search. To mitigate it, we can connect multi-root search in CA-SERV. But this rely on the multi-root search, multi-root root feature support. This feature is, I think this feature is very long, from about 1.6. But there are some shortcomings here. All manually operations, and this is error-prone. So during the rotation, the E-Store.io traffic is very likely to be broken. And when XDS clients connect field, there is a gap between E-Store.io reloading the new search for XDS server and the XDS proxy loading the new CA-SERV. So this is a gap. And the last question is, how long could it take? The whole procedure could be hours, depending on the size of workloads in the mesh, because we have workload search validation for about 24 hours. And basically, we rotate the workload search every about 12 hours. OK, let's turn it to Jianpeng to show us how we can rotate the root CA in details. Before 1.20, I think there was two common ceremony about how we wrote the CA-SERV. This is the simplest way. You both intermediate A and intermediate come from the same route. So you can rotate or change the CA-SERV at any time. And because they are from the root CA, so even in this cramming, you can see the CA-SERV C and CA-SERV C have different workload set from different intermediate routes. But the communication is not broken. But sometimes, you may make a mistake and use a wrong root CA-SERV. And the off-stream requests you to change it from like this. You are running a cluster with intermediate B from route A. And the off-stream requests you to change it from intermediate C, but it was from another route C, or we call it route B here. And I think Christine Poster from the solo and Peter do a very good demo in the past and show how we can rotate it. But the truth is, we need to roll out East2D4 maybe about tries and all more. And then you need to restart all the inject application for maybe tries and all more. So if you have a large scale size cluster, it will be very difficult to run it in a short time. So how can we improve this? Let's take a look at our new very little invocation. So here's the key thing to reload a route CA without anything. Faster, this new feature is got by two feature gates. One is the Prox config XDS agent. And the other one is East2Mute route mesh. With this enabled, East2D is allowed to send a PCDS to the East2 agent when the route CA is changed. And for security reason, for the safety reason, we just allowed to East2D auto-reload the route CA in two cases. First one, the new route CA contains the old ones.  And another one is the new one is just part of the new one.  And with this new change, we can allow East2D to reload the route CA with any route and restart. And all the workloads that will be auto-re-signed, you also didn't need to reload the applications. So here's the thing. We start from here. You have a cluster and you have a East2 with the route A.  And we need to route it to route B. And on the left side, you can see there's another two things. The combined route is just the route set A plus route set B. And there's another one called combined route 2. And it was just route A and plus B and one more. So this is the first ceremony. You can see we're getting started from here. The next step, we update the C set with everything from the last, but just replace the route set from route A to the combined route. And after about a set of minutes later, East2D will reload the new CA. And all the workloads will re-sign the workload sets. And because of all the machines, the new workload set is worrying for both from A and B. So maybe you can imagine you want to just the next step is just change everything from route B and with the combined route. But there will be a little traffic downtime if you just do it. So we have a high trick is the next step. We update the C set with the route B, but just replace the route set with the combined route 2. And all the route set and workload set will be reloaded in about just one minutes. And the last step is just change everything to the route B. And maybe one minute or two minutes later, everything is OK with the new route. Yeah, you can go through the demo. I wrote a handbook about this. And also, you can check out the E2E test as a storybook. I don't want to waste your time to go through the handbook here. And you can check out the doc. And if you have any questions, you can select me or just send an email to me. And here's the reference. And the first one is the issue of the all-thing. And the second one is the great book route by Christine Poster in long, long ago. You can see it was just E1, E6. And the rest two is all prerequisites. You can check out the detail. And maybe you can find some mistake made by us. OK, thank you. Well, and good afternoon. Thank you so much. Please just nod your native language. So thank you. Do we have any questions? All right. Hello. And thank you for this feature, because I did a lot of P2 certificate rotation in my life, unfortunately. And it's a pain. I have a question about the part where you have to combine the certificate. When you are doing it manually, so you have to do it in two steps. First, you have to combine your certificate A, please B, into your crystal. Do the rotation. And after that, replace the CRC by just B. So like this, you only have the CRB into your crystal. It is the same thing here. You need to do two steps. So you have two manual steps. First one, combine the old Routier and the new one. And after that, remove the old one. Is that right? Sorry, can I repeat your question? OK. So in this new feature, so first you have a Routier A installed into your system. And I want to rotate this Routier. So I have to combine my Routier, so my old one and my new one. And after that, I have to remove the old one. Or I just need to push the new one, and the system will under it for me. Are you asking if you should remove the old CRC? Yes. Yeah, definitely we don't want the old CRC to exist at the last. Because maybe it has been leaked, or maybe it will expire. Is it planned to have a feature where you just push the new Routier under the deletion of the old one for you? Sorry, I can't catch up with your question. So in this case, I have to move my old Routier, right? So is it planned to have a feature to remove it itself into the system so I don't have to do a manual operation to remove it? Sure. You get the question? I think he's asking, as a user, if he needs to manually remove the previous Routier. Do we have a feature in planning to help? Sorry, we don't have a plan now, because we think the plugin Routier should be in charge of users, not ease to deal. Since you are in charge as a user, so I like it. Any other? Do we have any other questions? I'd like to thank the speakers again. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you, everyone. Thank you.


The fall through, like fall back to, I fall back to, my first, when it happened, the first thing I feel back on was drugs, bro. I was popping perks like. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. I gotta say this though, the funny thing is that when he told me, really when he told me you were coming and he's like, yeah, Rizzo Rizzo, he got a love to work out and stuff like that. I'm thinking, I've never seen your picture or your Instagram none, right? So I'm thinking when you gonna come in, I'm thinking I'm gonna see this big dude that's gonna be coming in, muscles and all of that. I'm like, so you been? When you come in five, three, you thought you've been seeing six, six, six self, nah, they ain't me, man. So, you were. No, I'm saying I'm small, you get no points or something. No, because you were talking about working out as a baby, you see.  You got it. On guard, that's it, that's it.    I don't want no problems, bro. I'm scared of my life, bro. So you got to make it home.     Yeah, let me go in too.  That's right, let me go in.  That was all I needed. I'm not playing, I'm not playing, bro. That's why I stay at home, because I'm not playing. No, no, I'm not playing. So why is working out so important to you? I know you were talking about having that society for the kids and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, cause I ain't, like I said, when that situation happened, I ain't had to fall through, like fall back to, I fall back to, my first, when it happened, the first thing I feel back on was drugs, bro.  I forgot exactly what it was, but I was high. And the next day I woke up and I felt bad about it, like. So that, because you know what, I love the fact that you said that because you have some people, I've met so many people who'll be smoking, who'll be on pills, doing all that stuff and be like, it don't affect them.  But it wouldn't affect that I was high, it was like, it was like, I was making a nigga emotional, like making a nigga emotional. Oh, so it does.  But does it affect everybody differently? Everybody got things on the fix too. Right. Everybody did suggest what's mine. It was having me emotional. I didn't want to, I was really at the pre-stage, like, cause like I'm saying, if you forget Rizzo, Rizzo, like they know me as Ray Ray. I had a pat, like I said, when I started the interview, I had a chiptube meaning that, man, I wasn't scared to fight nobody. I was, I had that live man syndrome, like, who? Yeah, we on boss talk one on one.


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