Let's eat a mat Tattoo Wait your batteries aren't so damaged Eating chicken while waiting for my turn Thanks Drew Ashley's about to get her tattoo Seventh one How are you feeling? I'm laying down on dog pee's pants right now Did any of your other six ones hurt? I don't want to score you on her Alon they're a lot. that good. it's red right? yeah. good luck. don't lie. hi sir. how was your tattoo doing? pretty good. what do you think? the rose. fresh. fresh. yeah. what did you think about Ashley's tattoo? like we are here. hey what are you doing down there? don't be playing with the cable. you're gonna get electrocuted. isn't that your first color tattoo? yeah. done? yeah. Ashley is finished. let's take a look. come on. focused. there we go. nice. cute. cute. cute. cute. Ashley's seven tattoo. we are done. time to go home. it's about only Sammy and I got our tattoos today. I told him my uh supposedly he's supposed to have done tattoo. it wasn't gonna work out. it didn't look the way. yeah. yeah. next time. I like how you're not really seen. I'm here at the mmc with my friend Sarah. we just finished the exhibit and now we're gonna walk around. I'm gonna show Sarah the hanok of pochon village and I gotta go ahead to practice and it's so black. thank you Sarah and her company for sponsoring our meal. I want that sweet potato thing. okay. let's go there then. we got the pingsu and the ice cream. this is literally perfection. literally looks like the poop emoji. but it's gonna be highest 81 degrees today. thank you. i'm done with today because we're gonna go see the disney exhibition. makes me so happy. like we both love disney so much. videography allows. so it goes into pictures in order for like two three seconds. yeah. it was crazy. like apparently for lion king like the stampede scene. it's only like two minutes and 30 seconds and it took them 18 months to create that one little scene which is crazy. wow. we gotta pick a poster but we can't choose. they're all so cute. oh my god. this is the cutest thing ever. i want them all. never mind. I think i'm just gonna get this one because i like the vintage-ness. let's get something to eat. we're hungry. i've been reading this book maker bed. my friend gave it to me as a present and um like one-third in. they're not supposed to dye your hair for a month after you get lacy but it's only been two weeks for me but hopefully i'll be okay. i'm gonna try to close my eyes as much as possible. i want them. we're gonna dye their hair and if not then i might have to come back. we don't like to do to bleach my hair again. didn't properly come out. i'm not looking forward to it. i don't know how long it's going to take but as long as yesterday. wash my sojung's hair. concert and i'm now meeting up with joan and christine. beans to have dinner and we came to bon sold in idae. it looks so good. you look so fierce and i'm liking your smoky makeup with the red lips. sexy. we love red lips right now. i know you're always fierce. she's cute. at the concert ben yet? oh leg days. leg four days. let's get it.


Hello, welcome to Tovi TV, this is the starting 11 show. Everton played Brentford at home at Goodersham Park on Saturday afternoon. This is a really huge game as every game lately has been huge. Obviously we've not been picking up a huge amount of points. I think we've had a decent start under Sean Dyche, two wins at home. The way record hasn't been amazing but we've got points on the weekend which is good. That could have done with a must win. You know the three points would have been huge for us on the weekend but we failed to get him. So it's more important that we get them at Goodersham Park tomorrow against Brentford. Obviously they're having a pretty good season Brentford. They haven't lost in a way game since October. That was against Villa 4-0, albeit they haven't been playing a lot of away games. It's been sort of one a month. I think they beat West Ham in December away from home other than that they haven't won one since. So it's a tough game but it's not an impossible game. We lost against them at home last season even though we played well up until we went down to 10 men. I'm feeling confident about this one and I'm going to pick my team for this game in goal Jordan Pickford. As always he's our starting goalkeeper. He's been okay this season. A couple of not so great games but I'm expecting to have a good game against Brentford. Obviously they've got Ivan Tony up front who's dangerous. He's the top Premier League goal scorer. He's got a lot of penalties. I think he's got 100% penalty conversion rate so if we do give away a penalty which hopefully we don't then he's going to have to be on it and make sure that we don't concede. Because like I've said before the more goals we concede we're probably less likely to win a game or get results because we don't score a lot of goals and we're probably going to struggle to outscore team. We saw it against Forrest. We conceded two silly goals or avoidable goals and we couldn't get three goals in that game. Two goals was an improvement because we've undergone that twice all season up until Forrest but like I've said let's just not concede any silly goals or he's going to have to be on it. My full backs Godfrey and then at left back I've got Mikolenko. So Coleman's been playing quite a lot recently. I've put Godfrey in there simply because of his physical attributes. He's fast. He allows us to get up the pitch and you want to do that at home. You want to be able to get up the pitch and get that team. So as long as we've got his recovery pace at the back then we should be okay getting up the pitch. On the other side Mikolenko obviously missed the Forrest game. I think Godfrey was alright on the left. I think Johnson had him on at him for dinner a few times and he used a bit. Got caught out a few times. Godfrey on the left but I've put Godfrey back in the right and I've put Mikolenko back in just for the balance. I think like I've said before Sean Dyche was the type of manager to play a left back at left back. If he's your best left back in the club then he'll start at left back so I've gone with Mikolenko. My two centre back is Jerymina and Tarkowski. I've gone with Jerymina because like I've said a few times I want to see him in a back four under Dyche. I don't think Michael Keane's been fantastic and I don't think he's done enough to earn his side so I'd like to see Jerymina in there. Cody, he's had a spell out on the sidelines now whether he's done enough in training to get back in the team. I don't know. I wouldn't mind seeing him back in the team but I would choose Jerymina at the moment. It's a really important game so why not have your best offender in there and Tarkowski. For me he's got to improve. He's been a bit erratic but he starts for me anyway. My two centre midfielders. I've gone with Dacori and Gei and I'm playing a 4-4-2 today so that's why I've got two centre midfielders. I've sacrificed O'nanna and that's not because we were poor on the weekend but I said on a podcast he's young. He'll go away from home and he'll have some of these games where he just can't get in the game but it's all experience. He's 21 years of age so he'll get better with time but I've gone with Gei and Dacori and you need someone like O'nanna on the bench to come on and make an impact. You can't put all your best plays in front of the team. Your team isn't just 11. Your subs are just as important as well. On my wings I've got Iwobi and McNeil. They have to start producing a bit more for me. They have to be getting in with goals as well. Dacori's got in with a goal on the weekend so I'd like to see him continue with that and I want to see McNeil and Iwobi get involved with some goals as well. Then me two strikers. I've gone with Gray and I've gone for Ellis Sims up front. The reason I've gone for Sims is that I'm expecting Dominic Avelton to be on the bench and if he can feature for 30 minutes, 20 minutes then that would be great and it means that we could be taking a big number nine off for another big number nine and keep what we're doing. I think Gray has scored a goal on the weekend but I don't think it's fantastic as a lone striker so if we're getting playing off someone in the middle then I think that could work. I know we've got a point on the weekend but I don't think it was enough to say oh we can't change that team, we've scored two goals. With all respect to Dyche, I'd like to see something a bit like this 4-4-2. You're at home, be a bit brave, put another person up front, play two strikers, give yourself a better chance in the game. So I've gone for that partnership. I was thinking maybe Mo paying Gray but I think I'd rather have a big number nine and then someone like Gray playing off with his pace and mobility. And then you can, like I said, you can bring Dominic Havelin on for Sims at some point in the game. And you can sort of still keep doing what you're doing if not better because you've got someone who can hold the ball up better and you've still got Gray running off him. Or you can bring on a Mo Pay who can do a similar job as a split striker but that's my team. Let me know in the comments if you agree, if you disagree, what changes would you make to my team? Would you stick with the same team against Forrest? If so, fair enough that's your opinion. Make sure you like this video and subscribe to the channel. And if you have more videos, including daily live exclusive videos, join us on Sofi TV Premier. There is a link in the description or there'll be a QR code on the screen in two seconds. Thanks for watching. See you later.


rst to give individuals money. So I understand that and the victim compensation fund could be crafted different ways. I hope we have Pam Young with some guidance here as well, but it's about accountability. So not reparations and I'm just, it sounds like it's going back into not only the issue of legality, but not wanting to, and I'm not saying you personally, Lynn, but the council, the town trying to make the youth and the families whole. So I think that needs to be at the center of the discussion. However, we could do that. The other thing, and then I'll go to my other members here, I think we have to choose. Either we discuss at this next meeting, the Victim Compensation Fund or the police report, it's gonna be, as you're saying, even with more extended time committing, it might be very difficult to have a discussion about both of those things at the same time. So I'm not one for retreats. Personally, it's not something I like to do because I've been to too many DEI, diversity workshop trainings. I've given them myself. And unless there are some real goals and actionable type of steps, I would not be enthusiastic and spend in a whole day just to have a conversation. Okay, so I'm just saying, so if any of that should be part of this discussion, we have to talk about, so what are we getting out of it in terms of process and for the community? And I'm not gonna speak for the rest of the group, but me personally. So I'll go to, is it Allegra next? I don't know, but. So Allegra, Allegra first. So I think my, I'm just trying to be a realist here and I'm thinking like we have now been talking about what we're going to talk about at this meeting for over an hour. So I don't know how we're gonna talk about a topic in an hour, but I think whatever topic we choose to talk about for an hour, what I would ask the town council to do is agree to have further discussions about it before a two month window has gone by again. I think part of the frustration I was having sitting in on the meeting on October 3rd was that it sounded as if many of the councilors wanted to have discussions and wanted to have updates and wanted to hear more about it and wanted to discuss things more. But time has passed, there are other things. We're all busy people. And I just, I don't want the message to be we're gonna keep kicking the can down the road and nothing ever come to fruition because we're busy discussing, discussing things and not actually acting. And so I guess my hope would be that whatever we do discuss, whatever does not get discussed gets put onto an agenda in the near future for town council to further discuss before we discuss it with them at another discussion. I think. I think I got that train of thought. Well said Allegra. And the council does just as you have meetings and you have had very, very intense and thorough discussions of all of this, the council has not. And that's what I think is part of the stopping. That's what's blocking us right now as a council. And I, yeah. Okay, and when you say what's blocking you as the council, it's the process. Is that what you're saying? It's the time to have the discussion. It's not, I mean, there's process. You know, I hate to say this, but if you're working with government, you can process people to death. Thank you. I agree with that frustration with government, okay? But the reality is it's time to have the discussions. And that's what I think the council to has not had is time. And I, you know, a couple of months ago, I tried to add another meeting in and I got shut down on that one fast. Real quick, and then go to Ms. Pat. I think one of the things that's at the core of this and the frustration for us is that, you know, we come out of the CSWG and now we're the CSSJC and it's like we are supposed to give guidance regarding these issues. And it's like, you know, we're not being utilized and trusted to have, to suggest, you know, what the community needs, what and how to meet those needs. And so I think that's also a little bit part of our frustration because we're trying to authentically and sincerely fulfill this role. And how does that work and operate when we, when Ms. Pat has been in contact with these families, they trust her, that is what we wanted in terms of having a committee like this, someone that could, you know, do that type of outreach. You know, people pay thousands of dollars for that type of outreach and she's done it here because she's a trusted member of the community. They went to her. And so, you know, then how does the council now take and utilize what we've presented in also a sincere and authentic way? I think there's the, like you say, it's there's bit of this standstill, but we want to be valued for what we're bringing to the council and what we've been placed in to do. Right. So, I mean, let me just, you know, D, you and I've talked before, I think Allegra and Anna and you and I spoke about any number of ways to proceed. But again, one of the things that, and maybe I accept full responsibility for not writing a letter of people one wanted to use, but one of the things I was trying to do was I say, you know, here's where we are in each of these. Here's what the council can do. Here's what some other group, maybe CSSJC needs to do next. Let's acknowledge this, let's do this. I was in fact trying, I'm sorry if I'm frustrated. Maybe it's my time to just be frustrated. I was trying to in fact help us figure out a path forward. And if I didn't do it well, I accept that. But I'm trying to figure out how we can take the different steps that you all pointed out in your letter. Some of many of which, not all, but many of which came from the CSWG. And you referenced that in the letter and having read those reports thoroughly and develop the initial matrix, I recognized them as being directly from the CSWG. How can we take those pieces? And the thing that would be, I think most useful for us coming from CSSJC is working with us and figuring out who's gonna do what to move this forward. And in the process, this event occurred and it's kind of become the only thing that people wanna talk about because they can't move on without that. And so I'm trying to figure out a way. I hear you, and I actually, I think it's a great opportunity. So I hear what you're saying, but I really see it as an opportunity to not only do what we've been, to walk in the walk, right? This is our opportunity in this town to actually do what we have been for the past year, over a year saying that we are committed to. And so here is a group that has that commitment and wants to get us to kind of stand in that space and do what we said we were gonna do as a community. This is our moment. And so I really, as a person who really dearly loves the people in this community, let's do that. Let's figure out a way to get past this by doing what's right. And so I'm gonna stop on that because I go to tears quickly, but I truly believe that this is our moment to stand in those shoes, to stand here and do what's right. All what we've said, all the stuff we've written up so many times. I just looked at the DEI website, all of that. Let's do it. Ms. Pat. So couple of observations. So I want to say that, Lynn, I watched last week Town Council where you expressed frustration in my culture. It's actually a strength. That's part of leadership. Tonight I state that too, that's not the wrong with that. For somebody from another culture, it took me a long time. Even today I still struggle with that. Like if you show your emotion, people misinterpreted, it wasn't a weakness at all. That's the way it's supposed to be. I appreciate your leadership. I appreciate everybody's time. I know your position is not easy. This is what I'm thinking, okay? In terms of apology, if apology is sent to us, I don't think it needs to be rehashed at the meeting on Monday, unless if we have questions, so we, you know, it's not strong enough. I think if we can get commitment from the Town Council that they will indeed support all, that they support the compensation fund. I'm not expecting a vote on Monday, obviously, because people need to discuss it. You know, we have to honor Town Council process. But what I'm looking for is like a commitment. Like this is what the families and the youth want. Okay, if I hear a majority of the Town Council willing to continue the discussion in your future meetings, I think it will give the youth and their families some hope. I also, at the report, you know, if it can be out, I'm repeating what, you know, that folks, you know, for us to read, it will alleviate a lot of anxiety and curiosity about instead of going into the meeting and then having the, you know, the police chief discussing what he wrote. We want to say, you know, send it ahead of time. It will save a lot of time, I think, you know. I think for me, and I can't speak for everyone, I'm not feeling the retreat, unfortunately. People who know me very well, personally, professionally, when I commit to people, I try to do my best. This family's majority of BIPOC folks, you know, chose me to speak for them, obviously, because they are protecting, you know, their kids, confidentiality, and they should, you know, that's the law, is their right. And I wouldn't feel comfortable going into any retreat this year until these families are made whole. And the last thing I want to say is that compensation does happen, people do get paid with special education. And I know what I'm talking about, I don't want to be specific or mentioning names. The school system have, you know, paid for compensation in different forms. Of course, sometimes it will go through hearing, the school get ordered to do X, Y, and Z. So why is that different, compensation different?  Is it the name that we're given to it? You know, if we call it settlement, would that be different?  Special education does that in different ways. I've known where the school system has, you know, asked some parents to find alternative services, you know, for the care, you know, for their, I don't want to get into too much. And the parents are giving the money to pay for the services. It has happened. I know what I'm talking about, because I'm a special education advocate. So I know what I'm talking about. Thank you. And Pat, I appreciate it. My son is a special ed student. My son too. Yeah. So, and I've been at those tables, wondering why I wasn't getting this, that, or the other thing. And I didn't have the disadvantage you did of being Black. So, but I, the question is, were those funds paid directly to the people, or were they paid to some service or some school for the people to attend those schools? I don't want to go into details that are different types of settlement. And, you know, that was made, that people cannot discuss, but parents have been paid directly, you know, for services that they requested. And yes, it has gone directly financially, yes. But I don't want to say too much. I never ask anybody to reveal anything that would be personal. Yeah. And I think to Ms. Pat's point, I think it is the job of the town council and of course our attorneys to figure out how that is to occur, just like they advise for the AHRA. The town council, of course, has to discuss it and approve it. So that's the town council's role. But I think that is the town's job to figure out how that is to happen. We just need the will. Phillip. Yeah, I will echo a lot of what Ms. Pat's thinking, that I guess we're speaking some words out of my mouth that I was gonna say, but I will say that having the report sent ahead of time, I think we'll save a lot of time and easy to then just figure out questions that individual members have for the report. Sounds great. And then a commitment to look into a compensation from, fun from the town council, I think is reasonable. I think that it is difficult to try and vote on anything, especially within an hour timeframe. So that commitment would be great and continued conversation. I do wanna point out though and think that this conversation and this type of interaction I was at the meeting last Monday, I saw how long that was and how frustrating that was for town council members and people having these conversations, having been brought into it. You know, there was a suggestion to have us be come into the town council meeting November 7th. That would have pushed the issue way back further. I really appreciate us trying to get this issue as a top priority. And I do see that being taken. And so I really do appreciate that. And I will say that where I may disagree with Ms. Pat is that I would be open to a retreat, but I also went and thinking about it and listening to it, maybe how the town has finance committees, whatever committees it is, maybe we make a standing committee to look at this issue, then to bring back to the overall town council because I do agree with you as well that being a part of a retreat that is just kind of a kumbaya type of retreat, as opposed to a actionable retreat is very different. And I would like to see an actionable type of either retreat or standing committee, whatever that is. And I will say that when we, when AHRA or what became AHRA came to us with that, that's we created a committee within a finite period with a charge to come back to us. And then once they started talking about compensation, we provided them with the process by which we would have to get to that point and then set up a time that Michelle just, and the whole committee actually met with our town attorney to talk about some of the issues around that. And it was, I think, very informative. I wasn't there for that part of it. I was there to just talk about the process and that I think was very useful for them. So thank you. And I think it is nine, but I wanna get to everyone's comments. An ongoing fund would be preferable so we wouldn't have to do this again, right? So some type of ongoing fund, like with the AHRA that when unfortunate incidences like this occur, then it would already be set up. So the process wouldn't just be for a singular incident. Deb, Deb, right? I don't know, because now I see Michelle's hand up too, but yeah. So yeah, time is passing. I have my 13-year-old, I need to get to. So hopefully this is wrapping up. If not, I'm leaving in like 10 minutes. Basically, I'm just letting you all know. So in terms of a way forward, and I heard police report, I heard reports should only be the police report. That's what we're interested in and finding out about, right? So Pamela's report can wait until the next meeting or what have you, Pamela, it's gonna do a report. So the police report is what we're interested in. So the police report is what we focus on. Second, as everybody has said, in terms of a message to the Amherstine, it would be in terms of, yes, an apology, we hear you, we're committed to you, right? You all can do all that. And in terms of a compensation fund, do a timetable, right? Explain the process, do a timetable and say exactly what you can do by when. And if there are resources that are available right now that's not tied into the compensation fund, put that in the message, right? So as Ms. Pat said and others said, there's other ways to go around supporting these youths and their families without it needing to be the legislative compensation fund, which might take time. Okay, I get that, but timetabling, right? So all of that can happen even the message or what have you even before the meeting and then at the meeting, we wanna talk about the report. Okay, so in terms of an hour, those are the things that can happen in an hour. And then lastly, in terms of a retreat, I mean, I have heard folks say, not interested. I mean, I don't think it's a bad thing if there are some actionable items to get to because I wanna know, right? What our structure is at CSSJC and how we work with the town council, what are we supposed to do? Because I'm hearing there's a lot of confusion, right? So a retreat where we actually are there talking about some of these issues, whether we need to do bylaws, whether we need to do whatever might be beneficial, right? So actionable items. HRC needs that too, because HRC is saying that there's certain powers that they don't have in place. So having the meeting with town council members, us and HRC with some actionable items at the end of the day, I would not be a post-wit. And the other part is I don't know a lot of y'all. I know some of you have all these relationships with the town councilors outside of work of these meetings. Sorry, I have a 13-year-old, I have an 18-year-old, I have a work, I have my elderly mom. I have a lot of stuff going on in my life and I don't have a lot of time to be out and about doing this, that and the third. So yes, a retreat where we'd be there for a day with some actual meeting and discussing them of these things might be beneficial so that then when we go to these meetings, we actually know each other and we can actually have these types of conversations at hopefully a deeper level, right? As opposed to a lot of times superficial or sometimes feeling antagonistic, right? So I'm just throwing that out there that some of us members would actually benefit. Thank you, Deb, and I appreciate the concrete items that yes, that sounds doable for the next town council meeting. And I'm gonna agree with you about, again, if it's actionable items that we're working on in a retreat, I'd be down for that. So Michelle. Thank you for giving me a quick opportunity. I'll make this really quick. I really just wanna build on actually what Deb just said. A lot of what Deb just says is exactly what I was going to say is for me, as a counselor listening in on this, it's become really clear. And I just, Ms. Pat, really wanna genuinely thank you for being the person that has been liaison to these families. And I think that that's a really critical role and in a person that we really need to appreciate that role that you're playing. And it's really become clear to me that what these families feel would be the most restorative piece of this is to have this Victims or Justice Compensation Fund. And so from my perspective as a counselor, it feels like we need to sort of head, really deal with that head-on, that request. And what I would ask Lynn and similar to actually what you were saying, Lynn, is I think that it would be really helpful for counselors to have an understanding of what a Victim Compensation Fund is, in what other purposes is it used, whether it has been used locally or in other places throughout the country, if there are other models for it. I think an educational component because I think some counselors might hear it and really just immediately kind of be unsure about it or maybe have opposition to it if they don't have all the information. And then also adding to that, I think having legal advice is really important. So we don't wanna spin our wheels. I feel like we really have to have an understanding from a legal opinion about what the town can and cannot do because there may be ways to do this that aren't direct payments. I think it's sort of grasping the essence of what is being asked to make the youth and their families feel whole in this situation is what's most important. And then I see the retreat separately and I've talked to Lynn a bit about this already. If there were to be a retreat or a time where we would have to spend together, it would be, as Deb said, to really build the relationships and talk about how we want to be in relationship with one another. All three, two committees, the town council, how do we want to be in relationship, building trust, building ways that we can support one another, that we can fulfill our missions and our charge as human beings and as these entities that we make up. And so that's where I would see having a retreat being really important or maybe really valuable to kind of frame some of that out with some really clear objectives. So thanks for the opportunity. Thank you. Allegra. Thank you, Michelle, for that. I just, what you said kind of, I read this article today actually called Reparations for Police Violence and it did talk not only about direct payments and it did cite two different cities, both Chicago and Philadelphia have made some reparations and what was included in both of those was a formal apology on behalf of the town or the police department in some cases, both an educational component. So teaching the kids in Chicago about what had gone on with the police department and how they had been torturing black men into giving false confessions and making a place available for people to go and get healing whether that was through mental health services, job training services. So not unlike the youth empowerment and the BIPOC cultural centers that CSWG has recommended and that we are still hoping will come to fruition. So I do think and I like that it frames it in the way of reparations thinking as well about the work that the assembly is doing. So I just wanted to mention that as an article that was helpful for me in thinking about this and I think that the families are asking for all of these things in a way. So I do think there is some precedents out there for funds and for apologies and for services. So I just wanted to say that. Thank you, Allegra. Pam, is it a possibility of adding that article to the last part of the packet or are we able to add things retrospectively like that? I do not know, but I could certainly if Allegra would send it to me, send it out to the rest of the committee. I would just have to check on the open meeting was about adding additional, I don't know the answer. Or it could just be sent to the committee, but I think it would be helpful. Thank you for bringing that to our attention, Allegra. Or I could send it to the packet for the town council meeting. In general, if an item has been mentioned within a meeting, it can be added after the fact. Thank you. At least I think that's what I've learned from Athena, who is my expert on this issue. So I miss Pat, I'm gonna give it to you, but I also want to suggest it is 921. We had at least two more items on the agenda that are particularly important to budget that we table that for the next meeting. And I don't know how the rest of us feel about that, but if that's, yep, yep. We're tabling the last two items. Freke, I need a thumbs up or thumbs down. What's going on? All right, thank you. Okay, Miss Pat. You know, I feel hopeful with all the discussions. I feel that people spoke from their heart tonight. One thing I forgot to mention about the compensation fund, the idea is to have the town select an organization, have that organization handle the payment. It will be similar to what the town is already doing with housing, subsidy, whatever, like have another organization handle the money, not the town paying individuals directly, but have the town pay the money to organization, the organization then disposed the money. It's what I wanted to mention. If that makes sense to people. Yes. It does make sense. What those funds generally do is pay whoever's providing the service or the housing or whatever, and they pay directly to the landlord or that kind of thing. No, what I'm trying to say is that the town, select an organization, pay them administrative fees, but then that organization then pays the MS-9 cash for them to do whatever healing means to individual youth and their families. It's what I meant. Because I know that organizations, they do get administrative fees when they help with programming in our town. I know that. That's what I meant. I don't mean like the organization paying for therapists directly. We don't want that. They don't want that. So it sounds like those are things, as Michelle had mentioned, would also have to be looked at with the attorney and how that might work in terms of process, as we said. Okay, Anika? I'm having trouble meeting myself. So, well, thank you all. This has definitely been informative. And I do agree that it definitely sounds like we will need a thorough, if not legal review, at least advice because the way that compensation is being suggested. I just, in my non-expert opinion, see all types of red tape and absolutely just from what I understand is within our purview or ability. And I also, I felt very similar. And I guess maybe in certain ways I do when I hear retreat, but it is true that many of us do not know each other aside from maybe faces. And often that, in many ways, we do not. But I also think that we also begin with holding space at really just how much frustration there is around this. I think that you have some people when talking about the youth involved here, the frustration and what's behind it comes from decades and eons of these type of instances going on. And I think the conversation, at least I'm not aware, and I haven't heard one person in council discuss a debate on whether or not police misconduct or brutality exists, but more what are we dealing with with this incident? And I hear that frustration, I'll admit, and I've shared with one of your members when I hear Amherstine being used, it just like, it just stirs my soul because I think of the Little Rock Nine and I think of these nine black youth there was no question of who they were. There was no question whatsoever and they're there with their city, state, and that national guard in front of them.  This is pre-civil rights. And to think that all of this frustration, we're here now when this is being used to describe this incident aside from rhyming. And I think that this is also something just dealing with where that is coming from. And a lot of us just speaking for myself, we haven't seen reports, we haven't seen anything. There's conflict and I don't think anyone is doubting that there are people hurting and that obviously we all know. I think all of us know here, we do not need to be lawyers to know that youth have rights. You know, so I do hope that there are further discussions not only move us to paths where processes are there. So in addition to getting to know each other, in addition to having retreats, we have clear paths of where do we go from here? You know, so we're not having discussions on whether something exists in the world or not because we know it does and really can direct us to is this what's going on? Did this happen and how do we deal with it? And right now we do not have those systems in place and we're dealing with a lot of state laws. So my hope aside from that is we really just have some clear facts and we know how we can proceed whether that is compensation, you know, further conversation or whatever that is. But with that, you know, thank you all again. And also I just, I do wanna add Ms. Pat, you know, I've had very few conversations with you but it's very obvious that you are a very caring person. And I hope that, and I can see that you care deeply and I hope that, you know, you and with Pamela Young especially who I'm so grateful that we have with us here can really be able to facilitate. So I'm sure whatever would need to happen cannot happen just within your charge. You know, that's impossible to make sure that though we need to protect the youth and their families there is someone where we can actually like if it does come to whether it is checks or whatever it is obviously they have to be written to someone. So, you know, I just, I hope that we can move from a circular conversation more to facts and I do have to leave shortly too but I wish you all a great night and I look forward to talking to you soon. Thank you, Anika. Are there any other comments, questions, clarifications, Lynn? I hope that this gives you, I'm sure much more than you were expecting but actually something, you know, useful I think from each of our members from Phillip to Allegra to Deb to Ms. Pat some concrete request, right? In which to frame the conversation. I really do wanna say thank you. This is, these kinds of conversations for me are educational, they're challenging. I have to tell you on Tuesday after our meeting when in fact I did cry at the meeting. Pamela shared with me that she thinks that people, she does that when she cares deeply about something. And so I thank you for appreciating that side of this as well. I also really wanna thank you. These are the kinds of conversations that need to happen in Amherst and I am more than willing to return any time that you would like me to and you can continue to, you know, say it the way you say it, Pat, Ms. Pat as she does in my district two meetings. So thank you. I appreciate it greatly. Pam has her hand up. Yes. So I know that you're thinking about adjourning but before you adjourn, I just wanted to point out that there's a one attendee with their hand raised and so you might wanna have public comments again before you adjourn. Thank you, Pam, for the reminder of public comment. Yes, good. We definitely want to do that. So I appreciate it. You're gonna let them in. Thank you for waiting so long to comment. Yeah. Hi, this is Vera Cage. I'll be very quick. 12 and one that'll drive Department 21 Amherst. I want to refer everyone to an article that came out today in the Daily Hampshire Gazette front page written by Dusty Christensen. And I shared it on my Facebook in case you can't access it, the print. But it talks about doing public records request on the behalf of the newspaper for the police department. And it took about two years and because there were so many appeals because Amherst police weren't forthcoming or transparent and they redacted a lot of what they were able to furnish with respect to discipline and internal investigations. So personally as a resident of Amherst, I'm not and elsewhere to police our professional liars, they're in court taking the stand lying. I've been in the courtrooms, I've witnessed this play out so I'm not naive to the fact that police lie. And I am concerned that, and I appreciate Deborah's comment about pulling out the fact that, our DEI officer is not privy to any reports, to any interview, to any work product that produce the report or to, so that's a missed opportunity I think on the town manager's part to make this position so disempowering, the fact that she's not at the table during collective bargaining with the police. When you're talking about police union contracts, that is such a key department with regards to safety in this community. I think that's a missed opportunity. The other point was, I appreciate Mr. Miller's report on the Crest program. I former organizer always will be an organizer. I hope that there's some focus towards community building and prevention and not just Crest responding to phone calls that deploy them, that we are able to use this as an opportunity to organize and to do this participatory action research projects with students, with parents, with community members to bring people to the table, provide stipends, give incentives, do that work towards building that teen empowerment center, the BIPOC center. These are all things that are interconnected and related and you have talent at the table. Appreciate Ms. Pat saying that. And you have a phenomenal time where the town of Bammers, you have Black women leadership and the town council needs to follow the lead of these Black women. Who are the moms of our children? So let's focus on trusting the people that are appointed to make recommendations. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments in the audience, Pam? Nope, okay. So if there are no other further comments from our group or questions, we do have to set a date for our next meeting and then we can make a motion to adjourn. So all the town council members, thank you again. I hope this has been helpful. I think for our group it's been helpful and we look forward to the next town council meeting. So CSSJC people, do we want to set a meeting tonight? Yeah. Yes, I have a suggestion. Is it possible, let me throw this out to people. Does Wednesday, every second Wednesday, does that work for everybody? What is today? Today is second Wednesday, correct? Yeah. Does that work for everybody? Just for my own sanity, I like. Consistency. Yeah. It is helpful. I have one point of consideration, which is that if we met the first Wednesday next month, it would be before the public forum for budget. So if we were thinking, we might want to present a letter at that forum. When is the forum again? The forum is November 7th. So if we met on the second, which would be the first Wednesday instead of the second Wednesday, then potentially we could have something to go to that meeting with and read or submit via public comment. So that we're saying as a committee, at least funding for Cress and DEI, we would like to see these things. So that works for me. What about the rest of the group? It's tight for me. Okay. So that's November 2nd, is what we're talking about. Yeah, it's very tight for me. Because if it's the 9th, then it's after the meeting. Yeah. I mean- We can't not submit something post-meeting, but just- Yeah, but we have, so you all are saying like, so are we meeting every other week or you all are just saying every second Wednesday, like once a month? Every second, yeah. I don't want to meet every other week. Okay. The rest of the year. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. Okay. Yeah, then I can't help. So either or for me, but it sounds like Ms. Pat, you're only able to meet on the 9th, you're saying? Yeah. So if we submitted a letter after the fact, it wouldn't have as much impact, but if we submitted it before, we could send it to Pam. And how would we do that to not violate open meeting law? Ms. Pat? Okay. My understanding of supporting DEI and Deborah helping out if I missed the mark is that we solicit input from them. What are their needs in their department? Do you need how, office manager, whatever, and then we help to advocate for those items. It looks like it's, my understanding is each department come up with their priorities that they submit to the time manager or finance committee. Our role, I'm hoping that we will go to the finance committee meeting and if we need to advocate or whatever, during public comments, we can do that. This is what we think Chris need. This is what we think the department need, but it needs to come from our two administrators. It's my understanding. Deborah, you can chip in. No, no, no. I mean, yeah, I don't have anything else to add. Yeah, that would. Yeah, we don't do the budget. We don't come up with the budget, right? I know CSWG, we have budget that we did, but things have changed a lot since that time. So I think, our two administrators need know what their needs are. If they can communicate that to us, then we can support to advocate for the funding. So then we write the letter. Wait, actually, so like I said, unfortunately, I have to go. Yeah, sorry. We need to go. So the last thing, like you all heard when I was saying to Lynn that for the 17th, I already have this other community meeting that I'm meeting from 6730. So I don't know if we're doing any presentation or anything. So don't don't put me on for any of that, because obviously I'm going to try to, you know, join whenever my other meeting is done. So, you know, we just want to put that out there. Okay. But yeah. I don't remember the second and the ninth you're available. I'm available either of those. Okay, great. Whichever one you all decide on. Okay. All right, folks, it's been real. Thank you. Good night. Thank you. So if all and Pamela can email our group, like this is their priorities, then we can advocate for them. Okay, I don't think we need to meet. I don't think we need to meet before the finance committee public comments. Okay. At the leadership meeting that we had earlier, I could maybe on Monday, Sean and Gano said that he would be sending out forms and for each of the departments with the proposed budget. So we haven't gotten that information, but it's going to be forthcoming. And then there will be an opportunity for each of the department managers to review. And make suggestions. So that process is starting to take place, but it hasn't taken place yet. And I'm assuming that it would be completed before the November meeting date, but obviously this is my first town going through the budget process. But I know that Sean, I have plans to sit down and meet with him. I met with him when I first arrived, but plans to sit down and meet with him again to talk about a budget for DEI. I think that Sean and Paul put together a placeholder budget for this first year, knowing that there would be additional things and we would really learn what the needs were as we went through the year. Okay. Thank you. So then it sounds like we'll see that later or I guess that'll be presented at that meeting, Pam, do you think? So I am unsure what's presented at that meeting, but I can certainly try to find out the sequence of events and let the committee know. I do think that it is incumbent upon Earl and I to sort of figure out what our needs are. And he, I mean, I think it's a first year, so you're really trying to figure it out as you're going. Obviously he's a lot further along in the development of Cresso. He has really identified needs that he's that he's already been observing. And for me, it's with only 90 days in on the job, I'm still trying to figure out exactly what that budget should look like and we'll build in some things for as far as capacity, but I actually think the conversation next year at this time would be more important than the conversation this year at this time because we don't know exactly where we are headed. Okay, well, it would help for us if we're writing a letter of support to know this is how much is allotted and this is what their needs are. But at any rate, we are trying to think through it because we want to definitely support DEI and Cresso in our capacity as a CSSJC. So is this something we need to work on and send, have maybe Ms. Pat and Allegra work on it and then send to Pam, no? Okay, so. You know what your needs are. All we need to know is what you identify you need and then we, the co-chairs then write the letter to support your, that's our role. All right. Come up with a budget. You tell us what you need and then we support, we advocate for you. There's no guarantee that they will fund everything, but that's why you have us here. That's one of our support for your department and for you. Yeah. So to tell you the truth, I think they need four staff there. Even with the office manager, it's not enough because of the scope of the work involved.  Yeah. You know, the DEI director, the assistant and office manager. I think they need one more person. So, it's a lot of people. So, Allegra and I can work on a draft. If there are ideas, Philip, Freke, Ms. Pat, send them to Pam and then she'll send them to us. That's the open meeting law process. Good. November 9th. November 9th. November 9th is the next meeting. Yeah. Okay. So. Good night, everyone. Well, no. So. Good night. Yes. Sorry. A adjourn, please. Yes. Step on there. Step on there. So, Allegra made the motion. Ms. Pat seconded all in favor. Yes. All right. Now I'm ready to have dinner. Everyone. Thank you. Thank you. Great meeting. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, councilor Dorothy. Thank you, everybody. See you on Monday.


presents Walter Brennan and Don McNeil. From Hollywood the Mutual Network in Cooperation with Family Theatre presents Torkelson's Flying Circus starring Walter Brennan and now here is your host Don McNeil. Family Theatre's only purpose is to bring to everyone's attention a practice that must become an important part of our lives if we are to win peace for ourselves, peace for our families and peace for the world. Family Theatre urges you to pray, pray together as a family. And now to our transcribed drama Torkelson's Flying Circus starring Walter Brennan as AJ Torkelson. Oh good evening my name is Howard Peterson. I have an appointment with Mr. AJ Torkelson. Oh you're from the Internal Revenue people. Yes. Matter of fact I'm AJ Torkelson. Come on in Howie. How's that Mr. Torkelson? Just call me AJ everybody does. Come on in Howie. We're letting all the heat out. Thank you. So I owe Uncle Sam a little cash do I? Well more than a little I'm afraid. Actually Mr. Torkelson. AJ. Well actually AJ you're what we down at the office call a very good taxpayer but there's that little matter of the first humble skymaster. Well let's go into the library and talk about it over some hot Java.  Oh indeed I could. It's a pretty nippy night out. It's not good flying with it. Hope you didn't have to take the bus I could have sent a car for you. Oh that's perfectly all right. Sam this is quite a magnificent house you have here AJ. I'm glad you like it. You know if anybody's told me three four years ago I'd be living in a mansion like this. This is the library I think. I don't really spend too much time at home and let me see. And if that coffee pot by the fireplace. Which way do you spoke. Oh there it is.  Thank you. Down at the department we were a little unsure whether you fell under capital gains or the gift tax. One lump or two. Oh two please. I take five myself. Cream. Thank you. Yeah. Sit down.  Thank you. Now what's this about capital gains. Well Mr. Torkelson. Yeah please AJ. All right AJ. The gist of the matter is this. How did you come into possession of the property in question. The first humble skymaster you mean. That's right. Now did you earn the airplane or was it a gift. Well now Howie that's sort of a difficult question to answer. You see I really didn't earn it but then you couldn't really call it a gift either. Say you in a hurry. No not at all. Then I'd better tell you how I got it Howie. Kind of let you figure it out huh. All right. Let me see. It all started when I was what you might call a night of the open road a wandering diplomat without portfolio. A dweller in the great outdoors. In short Howie a bum. I was one of those unfortunates whose door had never felt the knock of opportunity. That is until two years ago at the start of the baseball season. You see I'd been sleeping at the Hollywood ballpark and they started playing night baseball leaving me somewhat at odds for a place to sleep. So using an old strategy I figured I'd hold up one of the all night theaters on Sunset Boulevard. I scouted around for a long cigarette butt and then I found myself a theater with a nice quiet feature. When the break came the people poured out for an intermission smoke and I just lit up and sort of sidled in with them looking kind of bored as if I'd seen one of the pictures and hadn't liked it much. Three minutes later I was inside. Well it was at the next intermission that I found it lying on the floor near my seat. There's a planned employees badge from the Humboldt Aircraft Company. It's kind of a pretty little thing all orange and red and blue with a big brass safety pin to hold it on. And I was just about to take it apart so that I might save the pin against some future need when I saw the lettering on the back of the badge. It said a reward will be given for the return of this badge. Present on mail to Humboldt Aircraft Company at Player Del Ray or to any of their branch offices. Next morning I called in person at the Player Del Ray plant. Yes well that's all very well and good Mr. Torkelson but we've not used that particular type of identification badge at our plants it's the end of World War two. Yes I'd appreciate it if you just call me AJ everybody does. Be that as it may we simply cannot give you a reward. Well the promise is on the back. But we don't have money appropriated for that purpose. Do you know the red tape that would be involved Mr. Torkelson? AJ. AJ as it were. But nonetheless it simply cannot be done. Mr. Higgins. Yes. May I have a word with you sir? Oh yes of course right there. Will you excuse us Mr. AJ? Sure. What is it Miss Smith? Not so loud. What what what? We want to amount to something in this organization don't we? What are you getting at? I can see it in print now. Tramps who's Humboldt Aircraft. Soos. Not so loud. Yes I forgot myself. But surely you don't think he'd sue that old? Stranger things have happened and if he does he's got a case. What can I do? I don't know why they passed the buck to the sales department anyway. Well maybe they think you should give him a nice shiny new aeroplane. After all the fine princess reward doesn't say money so why don't you give him an aeroplane?  I mean are you out of your mind? Now look at it this way. No no come over by the window here. Why not give him that? Give him that? That's the new Humboldt Skymaster. Only give it to him with a string attached. The stipulation that he has to move it off our field by midnight. Now listen it takes six people to start that thing and three to fly it.  Yes but the upper echelon people... They love it, they love it. Think of the publicity angle. You think the public relations office won't go for a thing like this? Humboldt aircraft rewards honest bum by making him king for a day. What? Honesty king? It wouldn't be cruel would it? Cruel? Giving him something to talk about the rest of his life? And think of how it'll sound around the plant. What do you mean? Well when they hear that old stuffy Higgins has... Miss Smith I've told you I deplore that absurd nickname. They won't be using it anymore when they hear about this. No? Now they'll noise it around. The clever gag Higgins pulled while your name will be heard all the way to the top and when they hear it they'll be smiling. Do you think so? Well I'm sure of it. Well say no more I'll do it and Miss Smith I promise you no matter how far up I go I won't have any other secretary. Wherever I go you'll go with me. Oh I'm Mr. Torkles I mean MJ. AJ? Yes AJ. I wonder if you'd mind stepping over here to the window for a minute. Ajay, Humboldt aircraft as a mark of gratitude for your honesty and sense of duty is going to present you with a rather special kind of reward. Oh that sounds very nice. Yes a beautiful new airplane. The Humboldt Skymaster. Oh I don't know Higgins you know that sounds very nice but couldn't I just have the money instead? I haven't flown for a long time. Haven't flown for a long time? Jenny's in spades. First World War you know. Oh yes of course. Did quite a bit then though. I was good till they started putting those new Liberty engines in them and they got a might too complicated. Complicated? You think they were complicated? Miss Smith I hope you're taking this down. But you know it might be nice to have a little runabout, run it out and make myself a couple of bucks. Oh this is a little more than a runabout. Now if you just direct your attention toward the window young lady. It started off as a kind of a rich feeling. I showed the transfer of title to the guards and then I walked around in the grounds looking up at my plane. That is about all I could do too just look. I got a mechanic to give me a boost and I did manage to climb up on top of one of the wheels. From there I could almost touch the wing. But not quite. Oh I was certainly impressed with the size and the beauty of it. All shiny and silver. It was a lullapalooza all right. But you know I guess I didn't really hit me how I'd been bamboozled till I got over to the other side of the field. Then just as I was about to go into the airport cafe and I turned and looked again and wondered how I could move all those tons of airplane. For you? Yeah I wonder if you'd give me just a cup of hot water. You know to warm the insides. Roll time are you broke? Oh no no I won't be broke again until midnight but just a little short already cash you might see. Hey look I'll stake you to a cup of coffee. Well that's mighty kind of you. Thanks. I don't suppose you'd give me the cup of hot water too. You want the hot water too? Don't do it Nelly. Oh hi Dave. Things any better? Worse if anything. It's real tough Dave. Well life is a thorn. Say why shouldn't I give this guy here some hot water if he wants it? Why? Yeah. Because if you do he'll add a little ketchup, cream, sugar, salt and pepper and everything else on the counter to make about the worst kind of soup you ever tasted. Would you've done that huh? Well it's really not so bad when you get used to it. Look Millie make it bacon and eggs for two instead huh? All right. Say that's certainly nice of you. Yeah he's a very sweet guy this one. How do you want your eggs? A sunny side up. Good enough. Hey and look if you're around drop in for lunch. I like to see about that you know everything. You sound like you've been on the bum yourself. Well I've seen some hard times and from the looks of things. I'm gonna be seeing them again real soon. Why in some sort of trouble? If there's anything I can do. No no afraid not. Not much anybody can do. That is unless you'd like to buy 16,000 pounds of lemons. Lemons? Mm-hmm. You ever hear of Donner air freight? No can't say I have. Donner air freight consists of let's see one C-47 a few employees who will soon be looking for work and and me. I'm Dave Donner. AJ Tawkelson. Nice to meet you AJ. What's this about the lemons? Well yeah I bought them to transport east. Today the CAB grounded my airplane. Now why they do a thing like that? Maybe you could talk to them. No ain't that easy. You see I'm 30 hours overdue for my thousand hours. I flew during the war. You flew during the war? Yeah spads and jennies in the de Havilland once. Oh that war. But I'm a little behind the times. See what is this thousand hour business? Yeah it's a very wise rule of the civil aeronautics board. When a plane has flown a thousand hours you must have it taken apart overhaul and put back together again to make sure that well that everything's in top shape. Oh I see. Well I can't fly my plane till it gets overhauled which I can't afford. Which means I can't move the lemons before they turn green again which means well I'm not only going broke but in debt. Well Dave my boy seems a bull stuck with the same kind of trouble. You mean both on the bum? That's about it I guess. No no I mean we both have airplanes we can't move only for. What's wrong? Something just occurred to me David my boy. The way out of the dilemma. The way out? Dave all you really need to move your lemon which is another airplane is that right? Well yeah. Well suppose that guy came along who owned an airplane like say Humboldt Skymaster. Humboldt Skymaster. Supposing pigs had wings I fly him out by pig. No no no no I'm serious could you fly a Skymaster? Well I suppose I could. Now if a fellow came along and offered you such an airplane would you accept it as worth say a partnership in your company? Sure. Say what are you getting at? And would you let him change the name of the company to suit himself? Well anything. My boy you will be good enough to read these papers. One's a transfer of title and I don't quite understand the others but if you read them I think we might take a talk a little business. Business? I think we'll call our new company Tawkelson's Flying Circus. Tawkelson's Flying Circus? Tawkelson's Flying Circus. Tawkelson's Flying Circus? They're painting it on the side now and there's a fuel truck and a starting crew and millions and millions of lemons. Lemons? They were loading them. Oh but this is unthinkable. Miss Smith you assured me. Don't blame me. After all I'm only a secretary. I don't make the decisions around here. You tricked me into this. That's what you did. Yes this is the epitome of chicanery Miss Smith and I'll not soon forget it. Tawkelson's Flying Circus. Where's my hat? Where are you going? Straight to the top if I must but first I'm going to bear my soul to the legal department. There must be a way out of this. Loading coming along all right Dave? Oh AJ we got more space than we know what to do with. Well look I'd send out for more citrus if I thought we could well we could be sure of a market. Well as a matter of fact Dave my boy I want to discuss that very thing with you. Now we'd stand to save a little on gas if we only went as far as say Minneapolis. We'd save a lot. Well look I was in Minneapolis St. Paul area a couple of weeks ago. Those poor people need citrus fruit. They're having a lot of coals there at this time of the year. What are you getting at AJ? Well I thought we just might kind of do those people a favor I mean as long as we got. A favor? Well you know how citrus juices are good for coals and the prices for things like that just seem to go clear out of reach at this time of the year back there. AJ I'm beginning to think you've got a head for business. Oh no I was just thinking I was thinking if we made a few more available it might lower the price a little and you know they're pretty good people. Hey it looks like we've got company. Oh uh Mr. Torkelson. Correction you've got company. Hi Higgy that's Higgins the fellow that gave me the plane. No kidding. Mr. Torkelson I think we must have a word with you.  How are you? Partner? Oh good grief. Mr. Torkelson I'm afraid a terrible mistake has been made. A mistake? Gee Higgy I'm sorry to hear that. Yes yes you see I wasn't supposed to give you this aircraft. No in fact right after you left we discovered that there was an appropriation for rewards after all. Yes so you see it was all a silly mistake. Now now look here here's a little check which should cover your trouble nicely and if you just let me have the transfer of title for the plane. I'm really very sorry Higgy but I'm afraid it's too late. Too late? Then Higgy you wouldn't want to be an Indian giver would you? Indian giver? Yeah back in the old days Mr. Higgins the tribes of Indians used to give horses to each other and then steal them back at the first opportunity. You're not trying to steal this airplane back are you? Steal? Steal? Jay Albert Higgins? Oh heavens for me. Hey how could you suggest such a thing? I come by naturally AJ. Well let's see we think about finished loading so if you two gentlemen will excuse me I I'd better start attending the business. Nice meeting you Mr. Higgins. Be with you in a minute Dave. This is all a nightmare. Mr. Torkleson. AJ. Yes all right then AJ you simply must give this airplane back.  Oh I'll be ruined budding young career wife and six small children. Six? Well two. That is once in a while the wife and I take care of my sister's boy. Mr. Torkleson I appeal to your sense of fair play. This great big huge airplane. This this master of the skies as it were for a silly little bag. I wish I could help you Higgy you know if it was just me well that'd be one thing but now I've got a partner to think about. I wouldn't want to ruin him you know. Have you signed anything yet? No but I've given him my word. Well I meant. And then too Higgy there's something else. You see I'm one of those people who've never heard the knock of opportunity. Oh well that's all very well and good is it well but. Of course I never had a door for it to knock on either. Higgy I always thought secretly of course that if I ever did have something to get my teeth into I that I'd make a go of it. You know what I mean?  Be right along. AJ you simply have to try to appreciate my position in all this. You see in the first place I how's that Higgy? I say you'll you'll have to appreciate my position in all this. I've already talked to the legal department. The the legal department that is and they're talking about giving my job to my secretary. If that happens to me in the legal department. How's that again Higgy? I say if that happens to me in the legal department. Well what'll happen to me when I talk to the vice president or or Humboldt himself tell me ruin. Just let me know. Maybe we can work captain out. Be good Higgy. Don't take any wooden badge. Overlight it. AJ! Things went pretty well. It's kind of a word you might say strong proud feeling flying through the air. I remember thinking it must be about the same feeling one ribbon troupe had when he was flying in the middle of a a circle of forkers that was just flying circus in the first world. Did I ever tell you Dave I used to fly spads and jennies.  I suppose once you learn you'll never forget. Like like swimming I mean. Well it's not much like a spad AJ you you want to try it.  Go ahead. Well just for a while just to sped you a little. That's it that's right just hold on to the wheel. That's too far forward AJ. No no no too far back. Dave my boy there seems to be something wrong with the controls over on this side. Maybe you better take it. No less of the ship I suppose. No doubt it'll work itself out with practice huh. I hope so. Let's see not too far out now I think I'll call the tower and see if they'll clear us for a straight approach. Minneapolis Tower this is Torkelson's Flying Circus over. This is Minneapolis Tower did you say Torkelson's Flying Circus please identify over. I said Torkelson's Flying Circus Humboldt Skymaster 488 Flight 1 a commercial freight line with a cargo of lemons over. The cargo of lemons on the Humboldt Skymaster. You can start it was a little out of order too. Minneapolis we request landing instructions and clearance for a straight approach. We'll clear you this we gotta see. Call approaching final runway 21 wind southwest 17 altimeter setting 040 over. Roger and out. CHA just like shooting fish in a barrel. AJ I take my hat off to you. I suppose we were a little lucky. Well now I'm going to go into town pick up our profits and make hotel reservations for you. Oh I wouldn't do that Dave I mean about the hotel. Well why not we'll have to stay for a while to scout up another load. Yeah but as a matter of fact while you were unloading the lemons I took myself a walk down the railroad yards ran into an old friend fell a night of the road you might say and this fellow told me where I could get some wild rice for well next to nothing. Wild rice? About 26,000 pounds that he said. And I seem to remember that the people in and around New Orleans are awful for a little while rice and what would the cost of it being so high I thought maybe we could well we could do those fine people a favor by making a little more of it available to him. I mean what with the Mardi Gras coming up Dave New Orleans a fine town I'd sure like to stay here a couple of days but I happened to run into Waycar Willy on Front Street and he kind of steered me into a deal. You see their shrimp fleet had what you might call an overcatch. Those fishermen are nice people and right now they're what you might call shrimp rich and storage space poor. And since nearly everybody in the country likes New Orleans shrimp well I kind of thought that it went pretty much that way all over the country of course just about every place we put down we got calls from the Humboldt people they had their lawyers call us and later on vice presidents and finally old Alexander Humboldt himself but after a while he stopped seemed about every airline in the country was ordering skymasters from them on the strength of how well we'd been doing they couldn't build them fast enough in fact we had three on order for the last year well that sounds like you've done a lot of expanding AJ. We certainly have Howie. I got a staff of all friends fellow knights the open road doing my dispatching and acting as buyers got 19 planes and 51 pilots besides Dave and myself you know I used to fly spads and jennies back when yeah oh oh come on in Higgy. Dave call from Burbank AJ he says the weather's clearing. Well I guess it's back to work then. Oh Higgy this is Howie. Howie Higgy. Howdy Howie. Uh oh how do you do? Say didn't you work for Humboldt aircraft? Oh them. Higgy's head of our public relations department. Well boys I've got a flight to make dropping anytime Howie. No weather. I suppose I put my helmet in God's. But Mr or AJ I still don't know about the first plane how to tax you. Oh you took and hash it out. Higgy you'll write your check. Write AJ. Take good care of him Higgy. Nice folks those internal revenue people. This is Don McNeil again. You know we who appear on family theater usually refer to this part of the program as the commercial and just for once with your indulgence I'd like to treat it like a commercial. You know the kind you're used to hearing on your radio or seeing on your television screens. Now the advertising agencies have found that endorsements are effective selling devices especially endorsements by prominent people who count themselves among the satisfied users. 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