There are a lot of people with dreams visions and prophecies Hello. Hello. God bless you.  God bless you. Hello. Hello This is a pop-up word He's given me a times and seasons word to release today and I heard the Lord say so clearly in this video I'm gonna share with you the latest prophetic word that the Lord so graciously gave me The Holy Spirit gave me a direct word to share with you about the month of October and here is a prophetic word And I have prophetic dreams and prophetic visions with the Lord And I don't know who needs to hear this but the Holy Spirit is singing in this hour that I need you to hear this with all of your heart This is an urgent Warning and I have another prophetic word for you all by way of dream I'm gonna share a word that the Lord gave me on August the 31st So the Lord gave me a dream on July I think the Lord wants us to buy some guns Buy guns and that's what the Lord spoke to me And I heard the Holy Spirit say that Listerine will be gone So what the Holy Spirit was revealing to me is that Listerine will be gone. I don't have Specific type of Listerine that will be gone, but I definitely know that there will be a shortage in Listerine I need to share what the Lord has been revealing to me about KFC and Chipotle There was a scene in this dream and I'm inside of a house And I remember there was a dinosaur and it was a baby sitting on top of this dinosaur I'm being led to share this and it's in regards to these robots and I did another video back in June about these robots but since June I've been getting more and more dreams about these robots and So basically in this dream, it was a very quick dream. I had a baby in my hand I was holding a baby and it was a robot baby And I remember having the baby across my my shoulder and I'm like patting this baby on the back Staying 10 toes down on the word that God gave me because I see his people in the chat saying you a fraud It ain't about to happen I don't care because I'm staying the 10 toes down over my father heaven showed me because I've seen that bouncy house I've seen all that stuff and I know what's about to happen. I know it's about to come to pass in the mighty name of Jesus Christ I know the breakthrough was about to happen I know the financial breakthrough was about to happen. I heard the Lord say buy crypto So guys I have a word a beautiful word. I have a word. I have a word There's always test the spirits and always take everything that I say back to the Lord Receive confirmation from the Lord for yourself. I'm it's very important Especially with the word like this, but I want you to be smart, but I want you to be smart But I want you to be smart Like she said you should be smart. I agree. I agree with the great prophetess Camille Hedrick who has never Met a vision and dream of prophecy that she didn't like but also has never had one come true But I agree with what she said be smart. I Had a little bit of a problem with trying to figure out how what should we title this I? I wrestled a lot with the title being Will God kill these false prophets and that seems to be pretty rough to say that that's a pretty rough title a Pretty rough way to kind of put it. But the truth is that's an option that is on the board I want to look at false prophecy and false prophets and those with these false visions and these false and lying dreams in the Bible because There's a lot of them. This is something that's not new It was spoken of in the New Testament by none other than Jesus by Paul All throughout the New Testament you see that but then guess what even through the Old Testament that was a problem There's always been somebody who wanted to say that they themselves were speaking on behalf of God So now before we get to it, we need to understand again just for the sake of clarity What a prophet is basically a prophet is a spokesman for God There are different types of prophets there are those who are kind of called to that particular office Anybody can prophesy in the general sense and again, there's two types of ways that you can Proposy, there is the Forth telling right now the indicative or what does say at the Lord or there is the Foretelling looking forward into the future for telling in other words predicted prophecy This is going to happen in seven years is going to be a famine and so forth That's that kind of prophecy and so there are a bunch of false prophets As well as some false prophecies that are given in the Bible The interesting thing is that you need to be be aware of this The Bible always makes sure that we know of them The Bible is not silent And kind of flip it about someone speaking on behalf of the Lord Where the Lord did not speak and so before we go into this it's it's it's one thing to know What a false prophet is And so let's go and look at some scriptures to see one what God says about it And then also to how to identify one of the first places we go to to look at how to identify it Obviously is due to around me 18 and we're going to see is there some sort of Way that God might change things or not else should say change things But how he deals with people how he deals with false prophets one of the things you're going to also notice is this With all the false prophets that we see He doesn't kill them immediately. He doesn't discipline them Immediately that that that didn't happen They have some they have a nice little run for some of these they have a nice little run of being false prophets But ultimately in the end Two things need to be understood one don't listen to them. Don't be led by them or you'll be judged But also God eventually is going to deal with him. Don't that's one thing you don't have to worry But in due to around me 18, we see this passage that we know of Excuse me says, uh, let's start in verse 15.  Let's let's go to verse, uh Let's start in verse 19 And it should come to pass about that whoever will not listen to my words Which which he shall speak speaking of his prophet in my name I myself will require it of him But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in my name Which I have not commanded him to speak or Which he speaks in the name of other guys that prophet shall die You may say in your heart How will we know the word which the lord has not spoken? It's a good question. How are we going to know if this is a word that was spoken by the lord or not? Now at this time obviously they didn't have the written word We're talking about in due to around me. Moses is the writer of the first five books And so they didn't have the written word and so the question is how will you know? He says you may say in your heart how we know the word wish the lord has not spoken He says when a prophet speaks in the name of the lord If the thing does not come about or come true That is the thing which the lord has not spoken the prophet has spoken presumptuously You shall not be afraid of him in other words if the person is saying that he is speaking on behalf of god And what he says is factually incorrect. It's not a fact. It's not true That person is not a prophet now that come that that brings into play the foretelling and the foretelling The foretelling can be a little bit difficult to understand because the foretelling is This is what the bible says or this is what god has said at that moment Well at that point in time god is leading his people By his mouthpiece in this case at this time is moses They're going to be others obviously after him. We're going to see joshua But this is a big a big issue and one of the people that you see having to deal with this A lot is Jeremiah And I want you to notice a few things that that's kind of Not Not solely happening with Jeremiah. You see it happening today. See if we can draw some parallels Jeremiah is obviously he's a prophet. He is telling what god is saying what god is going to do He's a spokesman for the lord But what he's saying everybody doesn't like And there in lies the problem because when people want to hear something better than what they've heard They don't really like it They as paul would even say it or classified they have these itching ears They want to hear something good And there's always going to be somebody around to tell you what you want to hear I don't care if it's in the old testament or the new or if it's in today's society There's always going to be somebody to tell you what you want to hear because that's big business Making you feel good as big business. Why do you think the drug industry is so it's so popular? Whether it could be beer it can be alcohol some other sort of alcohol it can be Cigarettes it can be anything that you can ingest to make you feel good about yourself or doing things To make you feel good about yourself. Why do you think the this world of virtual reality is so popular because It puts you in a place where you are better there than you are here or at least better off At least in your mind And so you're always going to have somebody to tell you that No, it's going to be better as a matter of fact think about back in the garden in the garden apparently Desired what she saw and so what did the devil say you can have that matter of fact It's not going to be bad when you have it. It's not like what god said So the word of the god the word of god was thus He said no it's actually more than that and it's better Again having itchy ears and so she succumb and so she ate the fruit Well, we already we know what happened as a result of that But even now even as we read these scriptures We'll see jeremiah having to deal with this jeremiah is jeremiah's prophecy or his prophecy or him He's like as a prophet was not the kind of life that any other prophet would want Jeremiah is he's prophesying during the exile And so he is there there's a great concern amongst the people about when they're going to come back in And in this whole time you're going to see false prophets show up as a matter of fact if we go to Jeremiah 6 he says For from the least of them even to the greatest of them everyone is greedy for gain Everybody from the least to the greatest From those who are in positions of authority to those who are out in the fields Everybody is greedy for gain and that that that makes us we all tend to be selfish But look what he says he says and from the prophet even to the priest Everyone deals falsely. They have healed the brokenness of my people Superficially saying peace peace, but there is no peace in other words They're selling the people a bill of goods These false preachers these people who are saying that they are speaking in the name of the lord who are working supposedly On behalf of the lord are selling them a bill of good Again having itching ears and so they're telling them peace peace peace and look what he says he says they have healed The brokenness of my people Superficially in other words, they've lied. They've they've made this to be they've made this to And what ends up happening is it ends up becoming becoming a pronouncement of curse upon these people because of how they take this And so this isn't nothing new Now you're always going to have someone who wants to tell you that there's something going on I mean and and it can seem like it's something vague Typically they're going to tell you something's going on and it's so vague that they want you looking out Matter of fact, it's so far down the future when it does happen. You won't even know But remember he says if what they say comes to pass That's one way of knowing they are not speaking on my behalf a red october It's coming. I said, okay, red october's coming. What do you mean by that? So i'm just sitting there and i'm dialoguing within my spirit a red october red october So I think the lord is trying to let me know here that there's a significance to the month of october So you've got to give me more than that. We're just going to we're just going to sit here and talk about um the month of october so He makes this statement about and we had a lot of So-called prophets telling us something was going to happen in october and of course it didn't this red october That's going to be this wealth transfer all these different things None of it happened Well, so what do we do with those people? What will god do with those people first of all? Do we have an example in the bible where someone has spoken on behalf of the lord that was not true Called themselves a prophet Claimed the words came from god They were wrong and then god turned around and reinstalled that person or gave that prayer You know what on second thought start listening to that person We don't have that as a matter of fact In jeremiah Chapter 28 verse 15 again jeremiah's having to do with this Jeremiah then Jeremiah the prophet said to hananiah the prophet listen now hananiah The lord has not sent you and you have made this people trust in a lie Therefore thus says the lord behold I am about to remove you from the face of the earth This year you are going to die because you have counseled rebellion against the lord Look what it says I'm going to remove you from the face of the earth You're about to die You are about to die You have caused these people to believe a lie Now Does that happen today? Sure it does Is god more tolerant of a lie in his name?  I don't think he's more tolerant I don't think he's I don't think he's out to give people a pass to lie on his behalf Because his name His integrity is impugned Now we know of another older prophet Excuse me Matter of fact, where is what I have this I've got so much of this stuff up here I'm trying to make sure I have the right one pulled up Uh, whereas well, you know, I won't even go to because I think I've covered it enough But recall we talked about this in first kings 13 about the old prophet who speaks to the man of god We know the lesson there that the old the old prophet Tells the man of god after having heard god tell him What to do and what not to do and once he has completed his task to go back to his country And then the old prophet comes to him by the way This old prophet we don't know what he what what sort of a prophet he was We don't know what he prophesied about doesn't say He could have just simply been giving what the word was he could have been a prophet That just simply spoke What the written word was just declare it Because again, if all you did was just you serving the compassionate You were just declaring what the word says And you almost like a priest Then you were a prophet Does that does it also mean or notify that that person could not have also given a foretelling prophecy? We don't know we don't have a lot of information on these people But this old prophet tells a lie. We know it's a lie because the bible says it's a lie Is it impossible for a person who is A prophet who was called a prophet now doesn't say that god called a prophet either Doesn't say that either But is it possible for a person who who goes by the title of a prophet to lie? It's not impossible as a matter of fact We're dealing with that right now as a matter of fact we're dealing with it even here in Our society in this time in this era And the lesson is that the person who listened to him this this man of god who was called a man of god Who was working on behalf of god? He is killed by a lion. Why? Because he listened to the word of this false prophet He listened to someone who clearly spoke against what god told him to do If god came to the old to the man of god and told him what to do Well, then he should have waited for the man of god. I mean he should have waited for god to tell him Not to do something or to change course, but he didn't he listened to someone else And I don't know maybe the man was hungry He had to he had to travel out of the country To eat and to sleep and so forth. So maybe he was hungry. Maybe he was tired. Maybe he was weary I don't know but the point is he trusted the word of someone other than god and so a lion killed him The bible says that this old prophet also Tells his sons when I'm sorry where to bury him It doesn't say when but we do know that he died because again, that's the penalty And so we don't know exactly was it soon was it a few days later a week later But we don't know ultimately he did die now obviously ultimately everyone else dies But it but he speaks about his death And so we don't know how long it was but that was not the point of First king's 13 the point was the person who listened to him And so the same thing we see happened when when uh, jeremiah speaking hananiah, you're gonna die why for lying there were many Many false there are many liars many false prophets Some who were False prophets of veil Some who claim to be prophets of the living god the god of abraham isaac and jacob in jeremiah 239 Listen to this one as for the prophets my heart Is broken within me all my bones tremble I have become like a drunken man even like a man overcome with wine because of the lord and because of his holy word So his issue is you're not listening to his word You are ignoring his word because of these false prophets. This is what he says them. He says for the land is full of adulterers That can't be overstayed. He says the land is full of adulterers People who do not want to stay with the lord who want to just do their own thing or follow after whatever is Appealing to them. He says the land is full of adulterers Then he says for the land mourns because of the curse the patches of the wilderness have dried up their course Also is evil and their might is not right for both prophet and priest Are polluted even in my house. I have found their wickedness declares the lord therefore Their way will be like slippery paths to them They will be driven away into the gloom and fall down into it for I will bring calamity upon them the year of their punishment declares the lord so He's tells one. That's a bunch of them. He the land is full of Uh adultery Uh, the people aren't even faithful. You've got these false prophets who are taking advantage of that as well And then he says that I'm gonna deal with it Rest assured One of the the things that you need to know And we don't take pleasure in this but if a person is speaking a word that god did not give Including a word out of the bible. It says the lord gave me this revelation the lord spoke this to me the lord Be careful. I've said this over and over again Do not and I've told different pastors this I've told other do not Try to avoid do your very best to avoid this feeling I'm not saying that just that you're speaking Scripturally or prophetically, but we you've heard people do this before I just feel like the lord is putting it on my heart. I just feel like the lord is leading us here I just feel like the lord. I just feel like the lord. I just feel like the lord be careful Be careful about saying that one you don't have to To what if you're wrong? Not he's wrong. What if you are wrong? Then what have you done? You're wrong after saying The lord has put it upon my heart the lord the lord the lord and we had we certainly have enough of that, don't we I'm just about to do something and a lot of christians right christians are going to get mad about it And it's gonna happen in the next couple of months praise the lord my brothers and sisters So I got a word and it's gonna make some people upset, but god put this in my heart this morning I got a prophetic word for you guys today that I want to share with you That the lord gave me the lord usually speaks to me and visuals and it gives me You know a way to just show you something So I want to share with you guys one of the things that the lord showed me guys. I want to Share this dream with you that I have So you got all these folks having these particular visions and dreams like our good friend marcus writers, which You would think you would just repent now. I'm gonna get to that issue about the repenting part And what god is doing with them nowadays, but let's go to the scriptures again He says in and zekariah chapter 10 verse 2. He says for the tariff them speak iniquity and the the the diviners See lying vision. Let me say it again and the and the diviners see Lying visions and tail false dreams. They comfort in vain Therefore the people wander like sheep. They are afflicted because there is no shepherd You've got these people out there who are supposed to be in a leadership position that are giving these visions Giving these dreams the lord is this the lord has said that all these things And you see people who call themselves christian just wandering around Accepting anything believing anything and what they end up doing and we're gonna see what happens We're gonna see a good example from Jeremiah what they end up doing when someone tries to correct them When someone points out. Hey what this person said is wrong what happens You get attacked if I say hey profit so and so apostle so and so that's not correct He or she as well as their followers are going to then come on the attack Who are you to put God in the box? No, we're not It's gonna happen It is and notice notice. They don't have to be called a prophet They don't have to be called a prophet what they are is a liar Even if they say notice what he says about these lying Visions and these false strings put back on the screen these lying Visions and these false dreams. That's good enough for you or for them to be in trouble And so you don't have to be called a prophet or you don't have to call yourself a prophet in order to be a false prophet But that's not how our good friend marcus rogers believes I've never called myself a prophet. I just go pray and I look at what's going on and we're gonna ask God about this And then I share what I feel that God is showing me like I want that to be clear I'm not one of these people running around. I don't care about titles If you have a video this is a prophetic word if you have a video that's titled prophetic word You can give a prophetic word and not be a prophet the spirit of prophecy can come abounds, right? So when you but you define the prophet so you called you said that a prophet is someone who says that they got a message Directly from God for other people.  Jeremiah. You all have heard this past before as well. Jeremiah 14 14 Then the Lord said to me the prophets are prophesying falsehood in my name Marcus Rogers Daniel Adams and everyone else who does so no bueno That is not good to prophesy a falsehood in his name. Let's continue reading. He says I have neither sent them nor commanded them nor spoken to them They are prophesying to you a false vision Divination futility and the deception of their own minds therefore thus says the Lord Concerning the prophets who are prophesying in my name. Although it was not I was sent them yet. They keep saying There will be no sword or famine the land by sword and famine those prophets shall meet the end So his point is you've got these people that are that are prophesying and in this case They're saying it's not bad. There's nothing wrong going on And so he's saying that they will meet their end by the very same thing that they're prophesying against By sword or famine they will be killed in other words If you are prophesying a falsehood, I don't know how how easy Uh, it is to hear. I think it'd be easy to hear the word stop.  What's the word head over your heels? What have you a little too excited? Uh, ready. This I feel like saying something I feel the spirit bubbling up in me really all is just emotion It's just uncontrolled emotions by an immature person who has not figured out how to cap that Who just wants to say something who also while wanting to say something Couple with wanting to be something or somebody it just comes out and to an ungodly mind Person might be saved with their mind.  You're gonna have to check yourself and see One am I actually a believer because I'm listening to clear lies When a person has to put out videos to say one don't don't take what I'm saying Don't trust that you don't have to trust it fully go back in such scriptures or have to apologize or have to kind of Finaigle around what they meant. Well, what I did mean was this or not quiet and so forth When you when you have that happening That should be clear enough to say, you know, I am going to leave these people Well, matter of fact what they will do something that Marcus did and others have done Is they'll point to what they think is a false prophets in the Bible. I think about this for a second They'll say that well the bible has some false prophecies or false prophets in it In other words to make myself look good and to feel good I'm going to impugn the word or the people the true men of god To make myself be on equal footing. Well, they did it too. Well, no Marcus or anyone else They did not do it too. They go to one of the classic was they go to is Excuse me and second king swing Speaking about has a king has a has a kaya Let's go there and let's see how this is absolutely not a false prophecy because it's one of the ones they love to go to So is it a second king separate 20? He says in those days has a kaya became mortally ill And Isaiah the prophet the son of Amos came to him and said to him thus says the lord Now this you is did the lord say thus if the lord says thus then what does the prophet do? A prophet is revealing or being a spokesman for the lord if the lord actually said it Then you say it And if what you say it is what he said there's nothing false about it Did the lord say what isaac said?  Oh lord. I beseech you How I have walked before you in truth and with a whole heart and have done what is good in your sight It has a kaya wet bitterly. So according to Uh This passage it's canonical. It's in the bible. We take it as true God did tell isa to do thus We have no indications anywhere in scripture that isa why that isa gave a false prophecy We do have an indication that god Heard the prayer of isa, I mean of hezekiah And then gave him 15 years. Do we think that god did not know this? No, it's just a way of god bringing this out one for us to show the power of prayer But not to show that isa was wrong in his prophecy. This is what the lord says continually says before isa had gone out of the middle court the word of the lord came to him Return and said hezekiah the leader of my people thus says the lord the god of your father david. I have heard your prayer well Was hezekiah pray? Well, how did he know that because the lord told him I've heard your prayer and look what he says I've seen your tears behold. I will heal you On the third day. You should go up to the house of the lord I will add 15 years to your life Was he a false prophet? No because how many more years it has a kai have 15 more years So guess what? This is not an example of a false prophet This is an example of someone declaring exactly what god said. We have it written in the text for us Markets or anyone else god did not write down the lie that you fashion together and try to sell it to us Again, first of all, god is not interested in the geopolitical affairs or things that you have in mind He's not he's not caring about that His issue is not who's going to run for the republican ticket or the democratic ticket Who's going to sit in a white house or the supreme court? That's not god's interest at all And so the fact that you would even try to go to the tech to try to make yourself look better By saying that is a was a false prophet is a prophet side falsely. He did not He did not And so when you find yourself find someone telling you that yeah, this other person did I listen I'm bad But they are too because how does that fly when you have children? And one of your children would do something wrong and they would say yeah, but but Tommy did it too Mary did it too. Sue did it too. Billy did it too That didn't fly. Well, you know what if they were my kids they get punished too, but since they're not you're getting punished That's how they go. I want to go to An issue that Jeremiah has to deal with Now Jeremiah's got to deal with all of these false lying prophets Remember, I told you before Matter of fact, let me put it back on the screen. I think this is I actually like putting this on the screen Here we've got Jeremiah is is a prophet of the southern kingdom and what he's doing is he's prophesying His concern is dealing with their return from exile. They're in the exile now Here's the problem They don't like it Jeremiah has given them a word of the lord But these other prophets these false prophets have came around and said no no god is going god is going to deliver us It's like what we see today the the maybe the word of faith movement These folks that can decree and declare something We see that with them now I don't know if they had a gathering a place to go to to get their affiliation to get their accreditation like a like a profit school But we see that today too, don't we? Okay You're gonna say you have to personalize it. It's not just body language You have to personalize it because the the word of the lord is for somebody Because if not then it's for everybody And then you walk away and go home and the holy spirit will make you feel like even though you released it The assignment wasn't accomplished Apostle bagani need a word And so what we have here is we've got bagani giving during his school of the prophets Teaching these prospective prophets how to be prophets how to act how to exercise their gift how to grow their grip How to train their gift how to say the right word here how to say that how to take something that they see What he calls a prop and turn into something that's going to kind of tickle their ear We've covered this before so I won't go over it again But this if you're wondering what you're seeing. This is what you're seeing and hearing. Okay You're gonna say you have to personalize it. It's not all of these statements of Lord, I give her permission to speak to me lord To say it to me lord remove all Fear of the office out of her mind lord now in the name of jesus christ lord. I bless my daughter now in the name of jesus Which being trained laws to use her lord now in the beginning stage What you don't have the ability to do is one We don't have the ability to confer the office of prophet or anyone else God calls them god trains them and if a person is a true prophet it take I said before guys It takes two things to be a true prophet One a ear that you hear from god and a mouth to speak it now It doesn't have to be a Foretelling prophecy in other words that this is going to happen in 2023 This is going to happen in 2025 this is going to happen No, it could just be I heard the word of the lord or I read the word of the lord It is in his in his bible and I'm giving it to you And so I'm giving now if I want to tell you as I'm reading the bible If I want to tell you this is what I think it means well then the name in Now if I come back and say and this happens a lot the lord has told me Has spoken to me that this what this is what this passage means Now, you know me Those are the kind of folks that I like to have a field date with When you say that the lord has specifically told you the lord spoke to you That this is exactly what this because the reason why you would say that is that's kind of your trump card This is to get you to shut up and stop disagreeing with me So the way I can do that because I can't handle the text like maybe you or someone else could And so the way I can get you to to get off my case and to accept what I'm saying And I don't have to overcome what you're saying Is to say the lord told me So okay fine, so I'll throw out some passages that I know that If you want for example, I've covered Proverbs 22 6 And I've asked him what has the lord shown you about this passage I gave a guy I'll never forget to give a guy this this uh This test he was saying that the lord speaks to him. And so when he wants to understand the text He will if he can't see it as clearly he wants to read it in the spirit. Okay Okay, and we need the holy spirit. We rely on the holy spirit for clarification and edification so important for growth And so I asked him okay fine. Tell me what does Proverbs 22 6 mean I've done it also with romans 10 17 and other passages as well where the language Brings about a clarification that maybe the english doesn't in Proverbs 22 6 is one such passage where it says Train a child in the way that he should go and when he's over he'll not depart So I'll ask him. What does it mean? Oh The lord spoke to me about this a long time ago. I said are you sure I said tell you what let's wait till tomorrow I want you to go back and pray make sure Make sure I don't have to but oh fine fine Comes back the very next day and says yeah, I prayed about it Proverbs 22 6 train for a child in the way that he should go It says if you so what you're supposed to do is if you train this child The right way then when he's old he won't depart And I said are you sure the holy spirit revealed that to you? He says without question I said well then you my friend don't have the holy spirit What do you mean? That's clearly what it says. I said no, that's how it appears in english I said but the Hebrew word is Al P. Derko It is a warning that if you train a child upon the mouth of his way What are you talking about the mouth of his way? Well, that's literally what it says upon the mouth of his way It's a Hebrew idiom And so when we translate it in english according to his way That's what it says. So we translate it according to his way It means if you train a child according to the way he wants to go Which is sinful if you train him according to the way that he wants to go if let's say if he's messy Then when he's older, he'll be messy. He'll not depart from it if he's selfish as a five-year-old Or 15 year old then when he's old he will not depart I said that is either the holy spirit can reveal that to you or you just take Hebrew or get you A commentary and see that the point is you try to One up us with your holy spirit as though we don't have the holy spirit And you lied So the point is this though You're gonna have that a lot today We don't have that we don't have some sort of greater Access to the holy spirit. I don't have a greater access to the holy spirit than you do Nor do you have a greater access to the holy spirit than I do What we do have is a will that can be submissive to one read his word And look for greater clarification and even ask them for hey, what do you think? What do you think? What do you think? But you've got these people out here that want to tell you what the word is Don't know the word but they're more invested in Getting an audience building their brand Building a following and we see that in Jeremiah. Have you all heard of a person by the name of shamiah? Now that's a nice name. Some of you all may hear that name and think think of yourself You know what? I might want to name my child shamiah. Well before you do, let's hear about this person named shamiah in just a second Let's go to Jeremiah again. Jeremiah is dealing with this He's dealing with a lot of these false prophets Not just people who called themselves again. They didn't always call themselves profit a lot of these folks woke up I have a dream or a vision. He specifically calls out folks who have these visions and folks who have these Dreams these lying dreams and lying visions. And so we see that here Now he's speaking of someone specifically remember Jeremiah has told them what it's going to be like. You got these 70 years We got this issue happening here this exile. Uh, and so Jeremiah tells them y'all just just kind of matter of fact Let's start in verse one. Let's start in verse one. We're going to read A decent amount of scriptures here So you all bear with him, but I want to give you a full understanding of what's happening here And then you all tell me if you can't see that what is happening here If you don't see it happening today Now these are the words of the letter Which Jeremiah the prophet sent to Jerusalem to the rest of the elders of the exile The priests the prophets and all the people Whom Nebuchadnezzar had taken into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon This was after king Jecaniah And the queen mother the court officials the princes of Judah and Jerusalem the craftsman and the smith had departed from Jerusalem The letter was sent by hand up and I'll move down because this is where it gets a little uh laborious. Let me drop down Verse four he says thus says the lord of hosts the god of israel to all the exiles Whom I have sent into exile from Jerusalem to Babylon. So he's writing these folks that have been sent an exile They're not they're not gonna like what the letter is saying he says Verse five build houses and live in them and plant gardens and eat their produce Six take wives and become the fathers of sons and daughters Take wives for your sons and give your daughters and husbands that they may bear sons And daughters and multiply there and do not decrease in other words what Jeremiah sent to the folks have been taking into captivity He says Take off your shoes relax. You're gonna be there a while You're gonna you're gonna be there God was not playing when he said what's gonna happen And so there's a competing Set of prophecies and letters that go out as well Let's keep going verse seven seek the welfare of the city where I have sent you into exile and pray to the lord on its behalf For in its welfare you will have welfare in other words Where they're taking you to where you're being exiled basically into captivity where you've been taken to Pray for that land pray that it's prosperous pray that everything is going well because it's going well for them It's going well for you because you're gonna be there for a while They don't want to hear that they they want to know when can I get back home? Continuing verse eight for thus says the lord of hosts the god of Israel Do not let your prophets who are in your midst and your diviners deceive you and do not listen to the dreams Which they dream for they fall they prophesy falsely to you in my name I have not sent them declares the lord. They're sending out these letters these words these prophecies saying Don't listen to what Jeremiah's saying now Jeremiah's office rocker Jeremiah is some old funny daddy No, uh, we're trying to prophesy the good things and here he is he's saying no because again Who is who is Jeremiah to put god in the box continuing verse 10 for thus says by the way you've this next passage you've heard it before You've heard it before You've probably in many cases you've heard it out of context or at least used out of context Let's hear this passage in context Verse 10 of Jeremiah 29 he says for thus says the lord when seven years have been completed for Babylon I will visit you and fulfill my good word to you to bring you back to this place.  To kind of make you feel good for I know the plans that I have for you declares the lord That's not for us That's no that's for Israel. That's for these people that were taking in that were that were taken into captivity He says for I know the plans that I have for you declares the lord plans for welfare And not for calamity to give you a future and a hope This is all part of this prophecy. Remember they disobeyed god And so what do they do what a god do as a result of their disobedience, especially relating to the land? They Disobeyed god by that having not observing the the the seven year Sabbaths on the land They disobeyed 70 times and so they were taken out for 70 years We know going forward that there's going to be a prophecy coming back again when hey What's going to happen this seven years almost up and that's when michael comes and says yeah Uh 70 70 sevens have been prophesied against you have been decreed against Israel. We'll cover that later, but This is this needs to be taken in context He says I know the plans that I have for you verse 12 Then you will call upon me and come and pray to me and I will listen to you You will seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart I will be found by you declares the lord and I will restore your fortunes and I will gather you from all the nations And from all the places where I have driven you declares the lord And I will bring you back to the place where I sent you in exile by the way side note Again, we covered this part before about where Where the the writer says that there are none that seek after me Well, he just said you will seek me and you will find me. I will be found by you the passage um The new testament passage remember we said it is the present active participle So there are none that are continually seeking But there are people that did seek him that did seek after him, but they just were not consistent They were not faithful, but the time is going to come Um, we'll find out not here, but we'll find out later where people will continually seek him There will be in a habit of seeking after him Why because they have they will then have the holy spirit their hearts will be regenerated By the way, he's going to prophesy that as well He's giving these good prophecies, but he's also letting no listen guys. You got some punishment.  You might even you you have a good shot of getting probation and then Visiting and sentencing I get a 20 year sentence This attorney was horrible. She was just give me something good to hear make me feel good I don't want to hear. I don't I don't want to hear something make me feel good. I want to hear the truth I want to hear the truth But you have people that will do that they'll tell you things that you want to hear. Oh, where's that written? Paul says that as well. So look what he says Let's go to verse 15 He says because you have said the lord has raised up prophets for us in Babylon For thus says the lord concerning the king who sits on the throne of david And concerning all the people who dwell in you in this city your brothers who did not go with you in exile Thus says the lord of hoes behold I am sending upon them the sword Famine and pestilence and I will make them like split open figs that cannot be eaten due to rottenness I will pursue them with the sword with famine and with pestilence and I will make them a terror To all in all the kingdoms of the earth to be a curse and a horror and a hissing and a reproach Among all the nations where I have driven them because they have not listened to my words declares the lord Which I sent them again and again by my servants to the prophets But you did not listen declares the lord So, you know what says you want to keep listening to marcus rider says you want to keep listening to troi black Since you want to keep listening to daniel adams Since you want to keep listening to isaac salivar says you want to keep listening to greg lock Since you want to keep listening to camille hedrick.  I'm going to hurt you Now when is that going to happen? Don't know Because guess what? I'm not I'm not a prophet. He hadn't told me this But if you don't change Because look what he says he says I keep sending you my word again and again Let's do to get verse 19 because they have not listened to my words declares the lord Which I sent to them again and again by my servants and so when someone says no This is not what the word says, but this guy is a prophet He's a man of God.  Okay fine. Keep listening to Listen to him to all you matter of fact donate to him Keep contributing to his cause do what you want to but I can promise you there's going to come a point in time Where you're going to regret it You will not be able to say I didn't know Because there's someone's going to say the lord is going to say hey This person told you that person told you that person told you but more importantly I gave you my word and you would rather listen to them Do not go to god crying for mercy when right now is the time Where you can receive mercy and receive his abundant blessing. It might not be what you want or what you're looking for physically But spiritually it is I want to tell you guys something so bad I want to tell you guys something so so bad Let me drink some water. Let me drink some water while I contemplate telling you this Something that god has done for me I'm not gonna tell you what by the way y'all see what I did you see how I set that down right there But I had to turn it this way because I need you guys to see The coats the coats in one because I think you need to see that My wife called me today And she was just jumping for joy and just I was like wow matter of fact I was I was I was have you heard somebody or seen somebody they just smiling and gleeful They hadn't even said anything yet and you just you're smiling and gleeful too Got some wonderful news. I'm but guess what I'm not gonna tell you yet Oh, I'm not but I can tell you this though. I wasn't looking for it wasn't expecting it I'm grateful for it. If it didn't happen God is good.   I was poor Learn how to live that way What I have learned in whatever state that I'm in I have learned to be content I'll tell you guys later, but I have to get some more information. So I will tell you guys I'm sorry, but I will tell you later. I've got to get some more information Okay, because I want to be able to give you all the particulars. So but it's but for me It's wonderful for my family. It's wonderful But I think those are the things that come about as a result of just being content in him Where you are not looking for something and then when God blesses with an amen And if he doesn't amen still amen no matter what lord, I love you whether I'm blessed whether I'm not blessed I am I'm with you. I'm almost like like new addition with you all the way I'm with you no matter what and you've seen me no matter what be with you And so I think this is kind of me. I don't I can't say this biblically or sort of But it's like if the lord sees that you're faithful, well, then There's no reason for him to test you in that way to test your faith. You've been tested. You've been tried Some folks have been tried. They've been tested.  No, it's not for me. It is it's wonderful for me But it is an example of how God has worked in me Blessing me and I know I can say I've been faithful. Have I been the best student the best steward? No, I hadn't been the best hadn't been perfect, but still I've seen him working me I think because being faithful to him I could be a little bit more faithful And so and I will I'll still keep striving and working for that And I'm not looking for some words to kind of make me feel good about myself And I'm going to call these things that I'm not as old as they were I'm not no, that's not what I'm going to happen. That's not what I'm going to do That's not going to happen in my life Because His word is good enough for me. Amen. So let's go back to what he's saying He says I have told you I've given you my word over and over again and again and again He says verse 20 you therefore hear the word of the lord all you exiles whom I have sent away Verse 21 thus says the lord of hosts the god of israel concerning ahad the son of koaiah And concerning Zedekiah the son of My seed now these are apparently are two people that are prophesying in his name And he's saying verse 21 Who are prophesying to you thoughts of my name behold I will deliver them into the hand of nebuchadnezzar the king of babelon And he will slay them before your eyes because of them a curse will be used by all the exiles from juda Who are in babelon saying may the lord make you like zedekiah and like ahad Whom the king of babelon rose in the fire what happened was this They were saying they're speaking against um nebuchadnezzar And that how god is going to deliver them out of babelon They won't be there that long and bring them back. So what does god do god has them to be these two prophets who are going against Jeremiah and the true word of the lord god has them handed over and what does nebuchadnezzar do? Burn them alive They get roasted and like he said roasted in the fire verse 22 Because they have acted foolishly in israel and have committed adultery with their neighbors wives and have spoken words in my name falsely Which I did not command them and I am he who knows And am a witness declares the lord Those are just two of the people now he goes to this person. Yeah true roasting david a true roasting Uh, they're having a false prophet fry not a fish fry or pig roast but a false prophet fry Anyway, let's go to Jeremiah 29 verse 24 to shemaya Sounds like a nice name Sounds like a nice name, but to shemaya he says To them wait one second wait one second. I got my my uh my missus calling Yes, ma'am Okay, sorry about that guys, uh to shemaya Uh, the nihilomite You shall speak saying thus says the lord of hosts The god of israel because you have sent letters in your own name He's writing this about in your own name to all the people who are in jerusalem and to uh zephaniah the son of Messiah the priest and to all the priests saying the lord has made you priests Instead of jehoida The priest to be the overseer of the house of the lord over every madman who prophesied to put him in the stocks And in the iron color. So he's so look what he's saying. Look what he's saying The madman that he's speaking of is Jeremiah He tried to get them these priests other people up to to to put jeremiah in the stocks put him in iron You don't need to get him But instead they do heed the word of jeremiah and they let jeremiah know verse 20 27 Now then why have you not rebuked jeremiah of ananthoth who prophesied to you? Why why are you still listening this guy? This guy doesn't have anything good to say listen to me Why haven't you rebuked him verse 28 for he has sent us in Babylon saying the exile will be long Build houses and live in them and plant gardens and eat their produce Shamiah didn't like that He didn't like now. This is the word of the lord The word of the lord is what Jeremiah was saying You're going to be in Babylon for a while Kick off your shoes.  You're going to be there Why why are y'all listening this guy?  He didn't like that. And so he's prophesying against that and so long story short Matter of fact, let's keep reading verse 29. He says zephaniah the priest read the letter Jeremiah The prophet then came the word of the lord to Jeremiah. Here comes another true word of the lord He says send to all the exiles saying thus says the lord concerning shamiah The neolite the neolomite because shamiah has prophesied to you Although I did not send him and he has made you trust and alive Therefore thus says the lord behold. I'm about to punish Shamiah and his descendants. He will not have anyone living among his people now. I'll stop right there One he's getting punished but two Called him out by name matter of fact He just called about my name and wrote a letter and sent it to other people calling him out by name So what we really can do is we can call people out by name Someone who is clearly lying who is going against the word of the lord Now, let me give you this passage as well. And then we're going to go to the new testament In ezekiel 14 9 He says but if a prophet is prevailed upon to speak a word It is I the lord who have prevailed upon that prophet And I will stretch up my hand against him and destroy him from among my people They will bear the punishment of their iniquity as the iniquity of the inquirer is So the iniquity of the prophet will be so those that are going to these false prophets They'll be punished as well as well as the false prophet now. He said he's gonna Be against him and even going to cause this person to say some stuff since you want to give these false prophets keep going Keep going. I want to even make it look like you're getting blessed along the way You false prophet. I'm gonna make it look like you're getting blessed along the way You know why I want to see who is going to listen to you guys I want to see who's gonna follow you guys This guy man. Listen this guy spoke a word and the lord is blessing him and and then Look at all the folks that are following and listen to him Look look at his because they call that fruit nowadays The amount of followers that you got they call that fruit and look at all this god is blessing this person He is a true man of god. I don't read my bible.  We don't call them false prophets. We know what they are.  Let's just see who all is going to speak Who are going to follow them? And then let's see who's also going to trash the people who is trying to give them the word Let's see here. I've got the person get bring your word rent you from the scripture And then the person who's making it up Who's saying the lord can do how he wants to you can't put god in the box Well, no you can't but if god limits himself and says i'm going to do this and i'm not going to do that Then god is not if god says i'm not going to do this and i and i agree If i come back and say that god is not going to do this Because god himself it says i'm not going to do this. I'm not putting him in the box. I'm just saying what the said the lord is That's not putting him in the box. That's just that's being a good steward of his work He said i wasn't paying attention. Yeah Well next time pay attention and uh, i'm kidding. So He will use false prophets false teachers with these dreams and visions and it's funny They are the weirdest dreams the weirdest visions I have never heard such foolishness come out of so many people's mouths and then folks just follow after them just I can't tell you how many video clips get left on the cutting floor Because i just can't put all the foolish stuff and folks send me stuff all the time. It's like wow I saw something that i said i i can't put it in there. I can't put it in there, but i want to But youtube is not short of Crazy ridiculous things that make us as believers look bad Now interestingly enough Jesus is also one of the ones who bring this up. How how interesting is it? Coincidental maybe it's not coincidental but notice Jesus makes this statement in Matthew 7 He says not everyone who says to me lord lord Will enter the kingdom of heaven But he who does well of my father was in heaven Look what he says many will say on that day lord lord. Did we not what's that word prophesy? Prophecy in your name and in your name cast out demons in your name and perform many miracles And I will declare to them. I never knew you depart from me. You who practice lawlessness Sometimes we hear these ridiculous things And he's supposed to but but but I was prophesying now We don't know if the prophecy in his name was True prophecy of foretelling Or if it was the foretelling just basically saying what the word says they says I never knew you One way that you could know if the person knows the lord like they say they do is how they handle the text How they repeat what because all we're really doing guys is repeating what the word is That's all But then you've got some of these guys out here who just making up as they go and you've got folks that are Following them folks who are listening to them when they say Backwards as nine things such as this But he wants to get to that level You don't go and pray find the girl rocker shuttle and finding So you can never but this is the if you want the keys you don't look for the keys you look for peter is the key Yeah, peter himself is the key Because remember papa in order for you to be a door you also have the ability to unlock it Yeah Because portals work like that. They're not like human doors Yes, that's why the lord jesus said i am the way what is the way the truth in the life the way is a portal Yeah, it's not saying i am the road. So jesus is not the door. It's not the door.  Where is that in scripture? But they are biblical light ways they have none But what they bank on is you not knowing your scriptures if you're following these men and even more than that if you're defending these men We need to have a conversation We need to talk we need to have what they call a come to jesus moment where you literally come to jesus Where you literally meet him for the first time because i promise you if you meet him Have an encounter with christ and then thereby placing your faith in him and receiving his wonderful awesome holy spirit You can recognize just like any other five-year-old who can read or recognize that what he just said was utter stupidity But folks buy it you can play it for them and they won't listen. They don't care And then what's the other the other? What is that he's doing anyway? What what is that? Is that is is that the sign of a new prophet must be so If you listen to these people You're not going to get a whole lot of comfort from god in this now Just looking up False prophets because we're told to look out for them. We're told to be aware of them Jesus says beware of false prophets in matthew 7 15 Who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. They look like sheep But inwardly they are ravenous wolves many false prophets will arise and mislead many matthew 24 11 court in jesus they will mislead many for false christ and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders So as to mislead even if possible The elect it's going to happen. And so if he says it's going to happen then it's going to happen Now the reason why they can get away with this because there are people who are constantly looking for a sign But look what he says Jesus says in matthew 6 16 4 he says an evil and adulterous generation Seeks after a sign and a sign will not be given except The sign of Jonah and he left them and went away What's the sign his death burial and resurrection for some people though? That's not enough His death burial and resurrection is not good enough for many people. I need more if you need more you'll get nothing If you need more than what he's offering, which is just him and him crucified Salvation if that's not enough warn yourself If that's not enough We've got some problems and I mean some serious spiritual problems I love Jesus Christ. Thank you so much. I appreciate the super chat We've got hueson. We got a problem Because you don't desire The pure milk of the word you don't desire that You want some signs, but what does he call those people?  They're the ones that seek after signs They're the ones that want something I just need more. I just need more. Well dawg going. I gave you my life I shed my blood for you I took the penalty of sin. I even even on top of that. I did you one better I did you one better. I gave you or made it possible for you to have the Holy Spirit The spirit of God living in you, but you want more Now the folks that want more probably other people that don't have the Holy Spirit I'm not saying totally. I can't say for sure But maybe maybe it's just me Maybe maybe it's just me Maybe Because me with just the Holy Spirit I'm good I'm good Now are there some things that I want? Sure Sure If you offered to give me for free, I'm not gonna pay for but for free Uh a brand new jet I'll take it. Sure Get I gotta find a way to park it I'm not gonna keep it. I'll sell it. But yeah You want to give me a brand new car? Fine. I'll take it Depending on what kind of car it is. I might keep it might sell it. Who knows I'll I'm not opposed to being blessed or anyone else getting blessed But it's not what I'm actually looking for Some people really don't mean it when they say if you don't do another thing for me, you've done enough Some folks just say it some people just say Just say what because it sounds good. It sounds godly Makes them feel good about themselves or makes them look good around the other folks that are listening to them I mean it. Jesus. I love you. I love you and then go home crying guy.  No Get your point to where you where you mean it where you where that's good enough What because my question is this for all of you people that are flocking to these Prophets to these apostles to these people who are giving these dreams and these visions and so forth You folks are flocking to them. What are they telling you?  That's more than what god has already given I'm just I'm I'm waiting because it it must be so good It I'm waiting here because you got people some of you guys are flocking to these people in droves Will to pay good money you're taking rent money mortgage money the kids college money go there and Want to just see a glimpse be blessed you got people that's giving cars and driving to kentucky Hoping to experience the lord all you got to do is open the bible giving your knees you can you can listen News flash you can experience the lord right now as they say rat R.A.T. Now right now you can experience them right now. I don't have to go to kentucky I don't have to go to this particular church. I'm not saying don't go to church go to church I don't have to be in the presence of apostle so-and-so or prophet so-and-so or bishop so-and-so No, I can be in the presence of the living god by just If I'm saved he's with me. Where can I go where he's not? And if you don't have that relationship, which is probably why you're looking elsewhere why everything sounds better Do y'all know Let me give y'all some some uh a prison story I mean you give you guys a prison story Y'all know what k2 is. I hope you don't I hope you don't maybe you've heard of it though k2 is like that that synthetic weed And what was happening you've always got guys in prison that are smuggling that stuff in smuggling in smuggling in weed They've got that that that skunk weed that just stinks. Why would you smoke that mess? I don't get that But they got the regular weed they got the smoke we they got to I mean skunk weed they got tobacco And they were bringing in this k2 stuff this k2 stuff was messing their minds up They were just you had listen by the way if you want to find the nastiest the dirtiest the most rotten bathrooms and showers in the world it's in prison it's in prison and It doesn't drain fully. So if you walk in the showers, there's there's puddles of water that's up there And who knows what bodily fluids are in those puddles on the floor.  It makes me wonder What is in these false prophecies that's just got you guys just running to it make you want Listen, I don't know what it is about baby robots and listerine and chick filet and and all those other little Dreams these folks will have it. I don't know what it is that make you people Not you guys you all smart christian But there are other folks not you but the folks that you know who are running to these people What is it that is so appealing about this foolishness? I don't know what I do know is you could not Could not have experienced the same guy that I have You could not have experienced him You could not have met him and fallen in love with him You could not have because you're looking for something else You have you have found another way that you like better than the one that he's laid out I don't get it. However, what I do is I pray that you wake up.  Amen


Live from Munich, Germany. It's theCUBE, covering IBM Fast Track Your Data. Brought to you by IBM. Welcome to Fast Track Your Data, everybody. Welcome to Munich, Germany. This is theCUBE, the leader in live tech coverage. I'm Dave Vellante with my co-host, Jim Kobielus. Dinesh Nirmalis here. He's the vice president of IBM Analytics Development, of course, at IBM. And he's joined by Roland Valskow, who was the portfolio executive at T Systems, which is a division of Deutsche Telekom. Gentlemen, welcome to theCUBE. Dinesh, good to see you again. Thank you. Roland, let me start with you. So your role inside T Systems. Talk about that a little bit. Yeah, we have. So thank you for being here. At T Systems, we serve our customers with all kinds of hosting services, from infrastructure up to application services. And we have recently, let's say five years ago, started to standardize our offerings as a product portfolio. And are now focusing, coming from the infrastructure and infrastructure as a service offerings. We are now putting a strong effort in the virtualization container virtualization to be able to move complete application landscapes from different platforms, from T Systems, or between T Systems platforms. The goal is to enable customers to talk with us about their application needs, their business process needs, and have everything which is related to the right place to run the application will be managed automatically by our intelligent platform, which will decide in a multi-platform environment if a business-critical application runs on a high available private cloud or a test-dev environment, for example, could run on a public cloud. So the customer should not need to deal with these kind of technology questions anymore. So we want to cover the application needs and have the rest automated. We're seeing a massive trend in our community for organizations like yours to try to eliminate wherever possible undifferentiated infrastructure management and provisioning of hardware and LUN management and those things that really don't add value to the business trying to support their digital transformations and raise it up a little bit. And that's clearly what you just described, right? Exactly. Okay, in one of those areas that companies want to invest, of course, is data. You guys are here in Munich, he chose this for a reason, but Dinesh, give us the update on what's going on in your world and what you're doing here and fast-track your data. Right. So actually, myself and Roland was talking about this yesterday. One of the challenges our clients' customers have is the hybrid data management. So how do you make sure your data, whether it's on premise or on cloud, you have a seamless way to interact with the data, manage the data, govern the data, and that's the biggest challenge. I mean, a lot of customers want to move to the cloud, but their critical transactional data sits still on prem. So that's one area that we are focusing in Munich here, is like, especially with GDPR coming in 2018, how do we help our customers manage the data and govern the data all through the lifecycle of the data? Okay, well, how do you do that? I mean, it's a multi-cloud world. I mean, most customers have, yeah, they might have some Blue Mix, they might have some Amazon, they have a lot of on prem, they got mainframe, they got all kinds of new things happening, like containers and microservices. Some are in the cloud, some are on prem, but generally speaking, what I just described is a series of stovepipes. They each have their different lifecycle and data lifecycle and management frameworks. Is it your vision to bring all of those together in a single management framework and maybe share with us where you are on that journey and where you're going? Exactly, that's exactly our effort right now to bring every application service which we provide to our customers into containerized version, which we can move across our platforms, which we can also transform from external platforms from competition platforms and onboard them into T-Systems when we acquire new customers. It's also a reality that customers work with different platforms, so we want to be the integrator. And so we would like to expand our product portfolio as an application portfolio and bring new applications, new attractive applications into our application catalog, which is the containerized application catalog. And so here comes the cooperation with IBM, so we are already a partner with IBM DB2 and we are now happy to talk about expanding the partnership into hosting the analytics portfolio of IBM. So we bring the strength of both companies together, the market access, credibility, security in terms of European data law, 40 systems, 50 systems and a very attractive analytics portfolio of IBM, so we can bring the best pieces together to have a very attractive offering to the market. So Dinesh, how does IBM fulfill that vision? Is it a product? Is it a set of services, frameworks, series of products? Maybe you could describe in some more depth. Yeah, it all has to start with the platform, right? So you have the underlying platform, then you build what you talked about, the container services on top of it to meet the needs of our enterprise customers. And then the biggest challenge is that how do you govern the data through the lifecycle of that data, right? Because the data could be sitting on-prem, data could be sitting on-cloud, on a private cloud. How do you make sure that you can take that data, who touched the data, where did that data went? And not just the data, but the analytical assets, right? So if you have models built, when was it deployed, where was it deployed, was it deployed in QA, was it deployed in development? All those things has to be governed so that you have one governance policy, or one governance console that you can go as a CDO to make sure that you can see where the data is moving and where the data is managed. So that's the biggest challenge. And that's what we are trying to make sure that to our enterprise customers, we solve that problem. So IBM has announced at this show a unified governance catalog. Is that an enabler for this capability you're describing here? Oh yeah, I mean that is the key piece of all of this would be the unified governance, which is you have one place to go govern the data as the CDO. And you've mentioned, as has Roland, the containerization of applications now. I know that DB2 Developer Community Edition, the latest version announced at this show, has the ability to orchestrate containerized applications through Kubernetes. Can you describe how that particular tool might be useful in this context? And how it might play DB2 Developer Community Edition in an environment where you're using the catalog to manage all the layers of data or metadata or so forth associated with these applications. So it goes back to Dave's question, right? I mean, how do you manage the new products that's coming? So our goal is to make every product a container, a containerized way to deliver. So that way, you have a Docker registry where you can go see what the updates are, you can update it when you're ready, all those things. But once you containerize the product and put it out there, then you can obviously have the governing infrastructures that sits on top of it to make sure all those containerized products are being managed. So that's one step towards that. But to go back to your Community Edition, DB2 Community Edition, our goal here is to, how do we simplify our products for our customers? So if you're a developer, how can we make it easy enough for you to assemble your applications in a matter of minutes? Or so that's our goal, simplify, be seamless, and be able to scale. So those are the three things that we focused on the DB2 Community Edition. So in terms of the simplicity aspect of the tool, can you describe a few features or capabilities of the developer edition, the Community Edition, that are simpler than in the previous version? Because I believe you've had a Community Edition for DB2 for developers for at least a year or two. Describe the simplifications that are introduced in this lead version. So one I will give you is the JSON support, right? So today, you want to combine the unstructured data with structured data. I mean, it's simple. I mean, we have a demo coming up in our main tent where as a developer, you can easily go get a JSON document, put it in there, combine with your structured data, unstructured data, and you're ready to go. So that's a great example where we are making it really easy, simple. The other example is download and go, where you can easily download in less than five clicks, less than 10 minutes, the product is up and running. So those are a couple of things that we are doing to make sure that it's much more simpler, seamless, and scalable for our customers. And what is Project Event Store? Share with us whatever you can about that. You're doing a demo here, I think, and what is it and why is it important? Yeah, yeah, so we are going to do a quick demo at the main tent on Project Event Store. It's about combining the strength of IBM innovation with the power of open source. So it's about how do we do fast ingest inserts into an object store, for example, and be able to do analytics on it. So now you have the strength of not only bringing data at very high speed or volume, but now you can do analytics on it. So for example, just to give you a very high level number, right? I mean, we can do more than one million inserts per second, more than one million. And our closest competition is at 30,000 inserts per second. So that's huge for us. So use cases at the edge, obviously, could take advantage of something like this. Is that sort of where it's targeted? Oh yeah, so let's say, I'll give you a couple of examples.  You want the patient data coming in real time, streaming the data coming in. You want to do analytics on it. That's one example.  You want to see all the traffic that goes into your stores, and you want to do analytics on how well your campaign did on the traffic that came in. Or let's say you're an airline. You have IoT data that's streaming or coming in, you know, millions of inserts per second. How do you do analytics? So this is a, I mean, I would say this is a great innovation that will help all kind of industries going forward. And this IBM has had streaming products for quite a while, and fairly mature ones, like IBM streams, but also the structured streaming capability of Spark, and you've got a strong Spark portfolio. Is there any connection between Project Event Store and these other established IBM offerings? No, so what we have done is, like I said, took the power of open source. So Spark becomes obviously the execution engine. We're going to use something called a parquet format where the data can be stored, you know, or, and then we obviously have our own proprietary ingest mechanism that brings in. So some similarity, but this is a brand new work that we have done between IBM research, and it has been in the works for the last 12 to 18 months. Now we're ready to bring it into the market. So we're about out of time, but Roland, I want to end with you and give us the perspective on Europe and European customers. In particular, Rob Thomas was saying to us that, that part of the reason why IBM came here is because they noticed that 10 of the top companies that were outperforming the S&P 500 were US companies and they were data-driven. And they, and IBM kind of wanted to shake up, you know, Europe a little bit and say, hey guys, it's, you know, time to get on board. What do you see here in Europe? Obviously there are companies like Spotify, which are European based that are very data-driven, but from your perspective, what are you seeing in Europe in terms of adoption of these sort of data-driven technologies and, you know, to use that buzzword? Yeah, so the, I think we are in an early stage of adoption of these data-driven applications and analytics and the European companies are certainly very careful and cautious about and sensitive about their data security. So whenever there's news about another data leakage, everyone is becoming more cautious. And so here comes the unique, one of the unique positions of T-Systems, which has a history and credibility in the market for data protection and uninterrupted service for our customers, so that we have achieved a number of corporations, especially also with American companies, where we do a giant approach to the European markets. So as I said, we bring the strengths of T-Systems to the table, plus the very competitive application portfolio, analytics portfolio in this case, from our partner IBM, and have the best worlds together for our customers. All right, we have to leave it there. Thank you, Roland, very much for coming on. Dinesh, great to see you again. All right, you're welcome. Keep it right there, buddy. Jim and I will be back with our next guest. This is theCUBE. We're live from Munich, Germany at Fast Track Your Data. Right back.


Είδαμε σε άλλη αποδραμή της ArgoCon, όπως να προσπαθήσουμε και να δώσουμε τις ευρωπαϊκές ευρωπαϊκές ευρωπαϊκές ευρωπαϊκές. Η μία name είναι Kostis Cappellonis, δεχνήθα για τον Codfress ως ένας ευρωπαϊκό επικέτημα. Είμαι ένα ευρωπαϊκό ευρωπαϊκό κομπιτήρ, και είμαι κομπιτής της δοκιμινέας, το blog post και τίποτα like αυτή. Αν desired να ευlementsομαινετε τουHayekο σางmonary, ήηντε assumptions σωστifice σ 就και τρεπω My mankind, θα Θεσμεσατε βοησαν 내려γα και στον Ευρωπαϊκό Κομπιτήρ, perfect���εμο είτε πρόεδρομαι η ευρωπαϊκή ευρωπαϊκή ευρωπαϊκή ευρωπαϊκή ευρωπαϊκή ευρωπαϊκή προσπαθήρ, επίσης προσευχ daunting turning back to the TruePal website. Αυσαιτήαμε και βρήήμε τegt τείποτα που θα φυσικά點 unrestщее λόγες με το meine, και στους τεπλικούς θα έρθουν από πιπ 20. Είναι καλύτερο, έπρεπε, έπρεπε. Δεν υπάρχει τίποτα. Το πρόβλημα είναι ότι πολλοί οι κομπανές έχουν πραγματική αρχαία από δυσκές βαλύσεις. Αυτό είναι ένα παράδειγμα με δυσκές, έχεις ένα βαλύσιο, και then δυσκές βαλύσεις για δυσκές δυσκές, και κάθε βαλύσιο έχει τις δυσκές, και μπορείς να κάνεις το ίδιο με χαίλμ. Μπορείς να έχεις χαίλμ βαλύσεις και σε εμπραγματικά δυσκές δυσκές. Δεν είναι αυτό που θέλεις, ευγύρωσης θέλεις να δεις το whole context of the pull request, like the whole thing, not just the lines that changed. In most cases, what you want to see is a final rendered manifest. You don't really care about the customized line or the hill value that changed. You want to see the final manifest, and especially if you are using hill, and you have lots of templates, at least for me, να γινήσω μία καταγράφηση στην κορυπή μου, δεν είναι καλό πολύ όλα να κάνω. Ξέριας να παράξω σκόλου, πρέπει να νομίζω τι μία καταγράφηση θα κάνω και να προσπαθώ να ανοίξω, να δεύει τη δύο ή εσένα. Αυτό είναι κάτι που δεν θέλω να κάνω. Για εχθήρους της κορυπής, αυτό το πρόβλημα είναι ακριβώς μεγάλιο, προσπαθώ να ανοίξω τι είναι το δεύτερο. Αυτό είναι το προς που θα μιλώσουμε σχέσης για μένα, Και θα δούμε 4 φορές, τα 3 που δεν είναι καλύτερος και το καλύτερο που θέλω να συγχωθεί. Οπότε το πρώτο και το πιο δύσκολο είναι ότι ξέρω ότι αργο-CD έχει ένα βιλτινό δημιουργείο inside the UI. Οπότε όταν κάτι αλλάξει στο μανιφέσ ή στο κλάσταρ, αργο-CD θα σας πει ότι κάτι αλλάξει. Μετά μπορείτε να κλείτε στο UI και να δείξετε την αξιότητα. Όπως όλα τα μανιφέσ θα είναι ρέντε, θα δείξετε το βιλτινό. Από την τελευταία, ξέρετε τι θα αλλάξει και αυτό βγράφει. Είναι καλύτερο, μπορείτε να κάνετε. Αλλά έχει δεύτερες δημιουργές. Πρώτας, όλα σημαίνει ότι έχετε δημιουργείοδο αυτοσύνκ. Ενώ αν μπορείτε να αντιμετωπίσω αυτοσύνκ, αυτό δεν θα μπορείτε να μην είναι βυσικο. Από έναν χρόνο και εγώ σιχαίνω να αντιμετωπίσω αυτοσύνκ. Επειδή αυτό είναι πώς παίρνεις γητοπίσ. Είχα always the guarantee that what is in the cluster. Είναι μεταρράχωνα, εσύρα είμαι αγγελ pursed in the cluster. Στα ευλογή, όταν βλέπω την ευρώσταση να τάξω τον επόμενο. 不是 a lot of options, I wouldn't suggest to use it as a regular utility. My recommendation is if you're doing this, maybe it's in a production environment... και βέβαια είναι για σκέψη, σκέψη, ότι ναι, αυτή είναι η θέση που θέλω. Αλλά για νομιπροδοκτικές εμπειρήσεις, νομίζω ότι αυτή δεν είναι μια καλή ιδιότητα. Λοιπόν, αυτή ήταν one option. Η άλλη option είναι να χρησιμοποιήσει τη CLI χρησιμοποιή. Και πραγματικά έχω ένα καλύτερο παιδί για εσένας, πώς πολλοί γνωρίζουν την αργο-CDCLI DEAF κομμάντ, πώς πολλοί γνωρίζουν την αργο-CDCLI DEAF κομμάντ. Λοιπόν, αν θέλεις να μου πεις αυτό, αυτό είναι ένα από τα φεύγραφα που δεν έχει καλύτερο παιδί, υπάρχει η δικαλία παιδί που λάξει να δεις, την ίδια παιδί της CLI, αλλά η πιο εξεγραφή είναι το αργο-CDCLI DEAF κομμάντ, που λάξει να εξεγραφήσει τι είναι σε την κλαστά την εξεγραφή, όχι σε ένα γητροποζητή, αλλά σε μία που έχεις εσένας στο λόγω. Παρακολουθούντας κάτι, μπορείς να δημιουργήσεις πριν ένα μανιφέστο στο μόνο σας και να δείξεις τι είναι οι χένες. Αυτό είναι το πρόβλημα. Υπάρχει και δείξεις τι είναι δύσκολο και πρέπει να δημιουργήσεις πολλές φιλές και να δείξεις πραγματική σύμφωνα για να δημιουργήσεις πραγματική ή τίποτα που χρησιμοποιείς. Λοιπόν, αν έχεις αυτό το σύμφωνο σύμφωνο, then the obvious thing is to do the same thing that if you have seen Terraform and Atlantis do you essentially integrate this thing into a pull request. Λοιπόν, έχεις το σύμφωνο σύμφωνο και ρίξεις βλέπεις το αρχισιμοποιούς αυτο-ίδηγου, αιτή vest. Και μετά μπορείς να δημιουργήσεις το συνδήμα στο σύμφωνο σύμφωνο που χρησιμοποιής. Π κάνεις τη φορά που χρή siitä επίσης, έχεις also a comment on the DIFF. Και αυτό δείχνει, αυτό είναι το τι η Atlantis είναι ακούσε, αλλά δεν είναι μια πολύ καλή ιδία, γιατί μόνο χρησιμοποιούς σύμφωνος σύμφωνος. like argocd cli, needs access to the cluster in order to create a diff. So this implies that your CI system has access to the argocd cluster, which is possible, but sometimes you don't want to do this. One of the advantages of argocd is that you can set up argocd on its own, on its cluster, and then its pooling changes from git, without you having access there. So with this way, you need to give access to the argocd server. And also maybe you have a strange topology where, let's say your deployment servers are in China, You might have problems with network there so it works, but it's not the perfect solution. I think it's great while you are developing so as you are creating manifest and if you want to test something yourself, you can quickly run it and see what I'm creating is also what I need. So great, you know, for local testing but I wouldn't recommend it for cleaners as well but it's a very good option. So great for local testing but I wouldn't recommend it for any production use. So another popular choice is to pre-render the manifests and get a final view of what they do so essentially how this works is usually you have your own Git repository that has the source information, so your Helm charts or your customized overlays and then you have a different second Git repository which might be a completely separate Git repository or maybe or maybe a folder or maybe a branch is not really important, where you have your final manifest. And then you need to set up an automated process. So whenever somebody changes something in the private git repo, in the first git repo that has the source, you generate the manifest and commit them. And Argos, it is looking at the second git repository, not the first one. So this is how it works. I'm a developer. I change my customize overlay or my Helm values. I commit the first git repo and then I wait. There is an automated process that copies and renders the manifest, commits them to the second repo, and then Argos is looking at the second repo. So if I do this, now I have the information on the diff on the second repo so I can look at how the diff is presented on the final rendered manifest. And you might think that this copy process is simple and you can do it with a CI system, but you also need to take into account your workflow. So let's say I open a pull request to the first repo. If I want to see a diff, like a diff on a pull request, I also need the pull request on the second repo. So do I open it myself? No, you should also automate this. And whenever I approve this pull request, I want to approve it on the first repo and I want also to approve the pull request on the second repo as well. So things are a bit more complex than what they seem. But the end result is great because you use your native git provider, what they are offering. So this is the same example as before the Helm chart. And right now I see the final manifest. It's not a Helm template. I see the final manifest and I can say, yes, this change is good. I approve it, let's go. And I don't need to render anything manually in my head. So this works. And actually there are some companies that are using it. I think Intuit is one of them. You can do it, that's fine.  But I don't personally recommend it because it's super complex to set up. You have more moving parts in your deployment process. You introduce your CI process that does this copying and rendering of manifest. So if your CI system is down, now you cannot deploy anymore. And also if you're in a big company, you need to put some guard rails in place because you need to prevent people from committing to their own repository. Because remember one of the good algo practices is you have one GitHub repository for source code and one GitHub repository for manifest. And now you're introducing a third GitHub repository with final render manifest. So if I want to do a change, I need to be certain that I'm doing it on the source Git repo and not the target Git repo. And also it completely bypasses the support that Argo CD has for Customize and Helm. Because you're passing plain manifest, you are not using that support. So I think it's not the perfect way to do it. So you can use it. If you're using it already, that's fine. I'm not against it, but you need a well-disciplined team in order to explain to people how the workflow works, how to onboard new people that they can understand how it works and also how to prevent wrong commits in wrong repos. And the way, the reason I don't recommend it is because there is an even better option which is the one I personally recommend which is you render the manifests on the fly. So how does this work? If you remember the problem we had with the Argo CD-CLI is that it needs access to the cluster in order to create a diff. But if you're following GitOps, you already have the guarantee that what is in the cluster is in the Git repo. So if you want to compare the current state of the cluster, it makes sense to look at what the Git repo is having because that's the whole reason that you're using GitOps in the first place. So if you want to make a diff on what is coming as a new change and what is already there, you can simply do a Git diff on the pull request that is coming versus the current state in the Git repo without any access to the Argo CD cluster. So this is how it works. There is a single GitOps repository that you have as always. You do your change in your manifest, in your Helm chart or customize overlay and then there is an automated process that just does the diff between the pull request and what you already have in Git. And you attach the result as a comment in the pull request. So, an Argo CD is looking at the same repo. So you are using again the CI system to do something, but it's not a point of failure. Like if your CI system is down, you can still deploy and you don't get this nice diff compared to the previous solution. And it's all Git based. So there is no access needed to the cluster. And then at the end, as a user, I just go to my normal pull request in Git and I have, let's say, the dump Git diff information that only Git knows in my smart diff that I have created as a comment in my CI system. And as a human, I look at the second one, the smart one. So this is how it looks. This is an example. I'm looking at the pull request and you can see I have a comment and this comment has different sections for the environments that I'm about to deploy and I can see that in this environment, this is a full manifest that will go in that environment and this is the actual change that will happen with Argos idea. I don't need again to bother myself with Helm templates or customize overlays. So is it perfect? Of course not, it's not perfect. The main problem is that you still need to set up this something, this CI process that dips the manifest. Also specifically with Helm, there are some corner cases that I'm not going to go into where the diff you get is not the exact same thing that you would get with Helm. So you might miss something. But everything else is at an advantage. It only works for Git. You don't need to do any special networking with Argos CD. There is only one Git repository, the one that both humans use and Argos CD is using and where is the Flux guy? This is not Argos CD specific. It's for any GitOps tool. So even if you're using Flux, you can do the exact same thing. So you can switch from company to company regardless of the tool that they are using. So that's my personal recommendation. It's simple. It's robust and you should use it. It works with any CI system and with any topology. But there's a final closing point and I think this is pretty important. So far we have been talking about looking at the different understanding what has changed. But it's also important to know sometimes what has not changed and maybe even more important. So in the previous ArgoCon, I had a presentation about a very popular blog post which is how you organize your GitOps environments and how you promote changes from environment to environment. I'm not going to go into this topic right now. There is a YouTube recording. Go and watch it in a blog post. But essentially there the answer was that you should use folders for your environments and you should have a folder for QA, a folder for production, a folder for staging and then you copy stuff between them. And there was a specific scenario which I'm showing in the screen. The orange boxes are folders and the blue boxes are overlays or maybe helm values, whatever you prefer. So there is a change that is coming in and they say to you, this change should go only to staging. So you make the change in the customize overlay only for staging or helm values, you apply it, it works, everything's perfect. Then one week later they tell you, oh, this change should now go to production.  And then you realize that you have the exact same change into overlays and the obvious thing to think is, okay, why have this duplication? Let's move this change into the parent overlay or to the parent helm value. And a lot of people said that this is a very dangerous operation because you will change many overlays and you don't know exactly what was changed and they are not going to do it and it's a risk and this is why they don't agree with how you should organize your environments and you should not use folders. So I didn't know the answer back then but I know the answer now. These people were afraid because this is what the default diff gives you. Like the default diff. You see some changes. There is a line that is being removed from two overlays and there is a line that is added in the base overlay. And this is a change. Like you see this and say, oh, things are changing. What should I do? I don't know exactly what happens. But if you remember, this is the naive diff. The diff that your provider is giving you by default. If you follow my approach and you have the smart diff that I explained, here I have pre-rendered the manifests and nothing has changed. The end result is exactly the same.  I know that after I commit this change and merge it, Argos CD will do absolutely nothing. So I can merge this commit with 100% safety and no risk at all. And I did this because I looked at the smart diff and not the native diff that my provider is giving me. So for me, this is even more important not only to know what has changed but also to know what hasn't changed. This is the same thing. This is a comment attached on the pull request. I have the URL there. Everything I've showed is not theoretical. You can find a code that does this. This was a very popular question. How do you do this? You can go and look at it. So these are the solutions that we have seen. The native git diff is very naive. It's very simple. It doesn't give you enough context on what has changed. Don't use it. Argos CD UI diff, yes, it's fine but it's very late in the process and you lose the auto sync behavior if you do this. The CLI, the minus minus local argument is okay for local experimentation but I wouldn't use it for production. If you want to pre-render manifest on a second git repo, yes, you can do it, companies do it but I think it's super complex and it adds many moving parts and my favorite way you render manifest on the fly and you attach them as a comment on the pull request. It's simple to set up. It works for Argos CD and Flux. There is only one git repo and it only, and not only tells you what has changed but also what has not changed. So these are some resources. The first one is a blog post that has what I explained with many more details. I'm including Atlantis there. It was mentioned in the previous presentation as well which if you are familiar with Terraform, it's doing a similar thing. It has pull request and then it attaches comment on the pull request about the Terraform plan. So what we saw here is essentially an improvement on what Atlantis does because Atlantis has the same issues. It needs access to your Terraform state, to your Terraform CLI, to your Terraform everything. It has the keys to your kingdom and we don't want to repeat the same mistake with Argos CD. And then the last one is the link to the Argos CD certification. It has lots of things also, it includes the promotion to environments. And that's it. We have a few minutes for questions or arguments. Kostas loves arguments.  Yeah, if you have arguments, don't start them here. Maybe you can find the afterwards and tell me, no, you are wrong. I love that way in that way. Hi, thanks for the presentation. It was really good. I have a question. Can you please give more details about how you actually make the diff between the Argo, what is running actually now in the cluster and what is in the git? If you go to this URL, there is actually a GitHub workflow that I use as an example and it's the full code. It's not something that is, let's say, super usable.  Essentially, there is a checkout step from the pull request that takes the code of the pull request. Then it runs customize because the example I'm using is running customize and it does customize build my QA, customize build my production, customize build my something. It saves the result because it's the final rendered manifest. And then it does the exact same thing from the main branch. Because remember, because of GitOps, we know that what is in the main branch is also in the cluster. And there is a final diff between those and then there is an attachment to the PR. But instead of me explaining its open source, you can just click on it and look at the code and see exactly what it does. And GitHub actually is just an example. You can do it with CircleCI, CodeFresh, Jenkins, GitHub, whatever. Other questions? One of the slides mentioned like one of the outside use cases. So we use Flux and Argo CD in my group. How about, how about for post renders? Does it show that as well? I would guess so. Yeah, I don't see any reason why. It's completely- Post renders after, you know, for let's say like not modifying our Helm chance afterwards. Let's say like it doesn't show up in the manifest file but we modify the templates. Yeah, as long as you're doing the full process. Like I think at the end of the day you're doing a Helm template or you're doing a Customize. So as long as you're applying those post processors on it then it would work exactly the same. Yeah, Customize and Helm are again are just examples. You can have your own favorite templating tool that just takes something and prepares a manifest. Same thing. Yeah. Good question. Questions? We have probably time for one more. What else will they learn in the certification courses? Promotion between environments I think is the big thing. And then Argo rollouts. If you're already using Argo CD and you want to know about Argo rollouts there are examples there as well. Thank you, Kostas.