Welcome everyone. Welcome to Megalife 21 Live. I'm your host James P. Madonna and I am here with the return of my very special guest Celebrity performing artists Fashion designer and the founder and president of Northern Lights tie-dyed company the one and only Paul Anthony Manthia Paul, how are you doing this afternoon? Oh, this is gonna be a Small discussion, but it's gonna be a deep one. Yes, what's the place at the secret art fashion show? You know and this was on November 16th. It took a 30 days to set this show up And it wasn't a fun 30 days.  Hopefully well, that'll be part two of the show Yes, of course, but um No, basically Thought this off, you know, I'm not gonna mention names because I just can't do that at this time and I'm gonna keep away from mentioning names, but I am gonna explain the situation of what happened Well, you can hint you can you can hint but not mention names yet I know if I have special on names for these people that are thieves, so Well, let's let's begin it off. So, you know, I had met this person online through somebody else and She wasn't recommended to me, but I knew she had a older age and I knew she was in her late 60s and Normally, you know, we don't take models You know for certain shows that are in there past late 60s because oh, she's in her late 60s. Yeah Forget her. So I so look late 60s.  I made the both of them dresses and You know, I designed them and basically, you know, let's put it like this I made those dresses for Randy Jones's birthday party along with Randy's gifts And I made them especially because I wanted sparkly sequin dresses where they stand out, you know And for other people to see that I can die on sequin, which you know, people know in the world that if you try to spray paint airbrush Die or anything to sequin without printing it even printing it it peels off But the minute you wet it it washes right out. It doesn't matter what you do to it, you know So because the shiny surface doesn't support any type of, you know layered paint or anything that's put on the top of it But anyway, we're not gonna get into that.  I've actually taken models off the street Okay, who are homeless and made them into models, you know, which a story will be coming out in 2018 of one of the models that I've done this for and she's still going and she's in Cali right now, but Oh But let's get to the point of what happened. I hope he disinfected and sprayed him down with Lysol washed him down really good before the show well Everything's good. So let's let's get to the to the base of what happened here. So basically You know after she complimented on this dress she knew about this dress This person that's the thief She knew the dress was the sparkly dress that crystal war and all the shows we did You know, we did the commercial with that dress We did Randy's party with that dress that dress was put in the New York Times You know that dress was put all over line. Everybody knew about that beautiful sequined dress There was major compliments on that dress. Okay. There's no way you can miss or say oh, that's not the same dress Okay, but We're gonna what's what's get to the show day now. So the show day we brought in all the garments, okay? They were in suitcases, you know and there was a two suitcases and there was you know clothing on the hangers that We couldn't fit in the cases All the dresses had plastic over them. Okay, the expensive dresses that the models had purchased, right? I give them an affordable price. I don't charge them three to five hundred dollars what these dresses are worth, okay? I Charged them thirty five forty dollars because that helps me to support the show. It helps me to make the show better You know so that this way they have the media in front of them You know, I mean it gives me that time and money and energy in order to make everything correct for the show. So We brought the dresses in okay on the racks and Nobody was really downstairs in the basement area at the time and I'm gonna be honest, you know the venue. I don't have the greatest recommendation for them. I give them a zero star When I get to a venue, I expect the basement floor to be ready and not having 25 people sitting there eating dinner You know the employees and boxes spread out all over the damn place, you know We can't even move around this is the area my models are supposed to get dressed and have privacy Okay, and it's supposed to be a security guard downstairs at the bottom of the stairs Which there wasn't to protect the female models from the male models coming downstairs and seeing them naked You know, that's how I run my shows. I don't allow it. So I mean Professionalism right well the dresses were down there and nobody else was down there just yet and This person she did arrive first She was one of the first people to arrive because I remember her and somebody else pulling up in the car going Oh, I can't find parking and I directed them to parking Okay, they came in I Greeted everybody as they walked in I explained to them where they need to go, you know for now You got to go to the VIP section because the basement Unfortunately is not ready yet because the staff failed to have it ready when the doors opened as I requested, okay now During that period All the dresses and the shirts that I made for the models to wear on the runway Which they were going to take home that night. They all had plastic around them as I always do They also had their names on them so that I know which model is size for that particular item, okay Not even item that wearable art that I make okay out of my heart Along with a number at the bottom of the dress so that this way when the models walk in the product down the runway If a buyer likes that outfit you're seeing 40 50 outfits coming out. That's a lot to digest They don't always remember which one they liked okay, but a number on it and this way they check off the number on their sheets That somehow they would never provided which was at the front door I don't know how they didn't get the sheets with the inventory lists on them in the pricing That was for the buyers market somehow those disappeared somewhere.  I have a right to be okay, so nobody knows where those lists went They just nobody had them nobody knows nothing I'm thinking personally another designer grab those lists and put her in a her suitcase because Design is like to steal things like that so that this way they have a template. Oh, that's how he does it, you know Whatever so it's like it's like the entertainment industry in Hollywood It can be a very cutthroat backstabbing type of Business people can be Depends on who you surround yourself around okay? I had to get rid of a lot of people in my business over the last six months, okay?   I know I know they're good Or a car dealer those type of people I'd love to hire as actors and actresses, okay But let's get let's get to the point now. So we have plenty of time to the point Oh, I want to get to it so that people can I don't want to feed them on you know I mean, so let's just get to that and then we can continue our convo So bringing up this model, you know here. I give her my heart and I say, okay, you know I know your age is up there.  I don't I don't want to talk about her.  All right with my design on I Priced them at two grand. All right, that's what my work is worth That's what I believe for that design on the boot maybe even more But you can't be appreciative of what I made you oh, I don't like this really but everybody else liked it You don't like it Let me explain one thing this was planned from day one We're gonna rewind when somebody comes into a venue in an empty suitcase That's a red flag I did not know her suitcase was empty a lot of models coming with suitcases because they have their things in there Okay, normally I got somebody at the door searching their suitcases. All right The show was set up in 30 days to have as many people as I had there to pack that house the way I did and My partners who also helped out Roman C slick, you know, there was John McMullen there that helped out, you know and They played a huge part in this you know a lot of people played a huge part in it You know, there was the model Beth crystal helped out here and there, you know with certain things that we needed done I mean, you know, everybody helped out and played a part to set up this show But I was homeless during this bouncing around Okay, so I can get things done. I had to be in the Bronx. I had to be at this meeting I had to be at that meeting. Okay.  Okay Right, and this is the same woman as supposedly has a save not supposedly or mean coat It's not supposedly okay, she's got it, but we're gonna get to this now. So There was a period of time where all the models were upstairs And all the clothing was downstairs now. I did have a couple of you know, people helping me out Which you know, I'm gonna give him plops, you know t-bone definitely helped us out Tom, you know He was a great help. He helped coordinate with the models You know, he did his best to you know, see who was supposed to wear what but being that the clothing That had the plastic around it with the names on it That was gone already and those dresses were already gone But we did not know because you know, I had over I don't know I probably had 200 pieces there all together. Okay. There was still stuff in the suitcase. I didn't have enough hangers I I gave somebody 50 bucks cash or whatever I think $40 cash to go and buy hangers for me. He helped out I forget his name, you know, my apologies, but he was down there with tone would um with uh, Tom And he was helping him out, you know to handle the clothing and everything, you know Once again t-bone did a great job for us, you know, I I have to admit and a lot of people chipped in, you know Beth and her um my Mua. Nikki powers. She she chipped in on doing the makeup and helping out I gave her some cash, you know for that, you know, I had a pair of something The models I did explain to them to please come ready, you know Encased the the hair and makeup artist doesn't show up. You got to be prepared But we managed to get through that. Okay, but this woman whined Well, I'm leaving if I don't get my makeup done and I'm going are you kidding me?  Okay.  All right Again, excuse my friends, but you know look It is what it is a security drop security drop the ball in my book Well for somebody to whine and then she gave my jewelry designer Issues everybody else every other model that was in the house signed An agreement that they would return the jewelry with their names and information on that form She went and gave the jewelry designer a problem. She didn't want to sign her name You know senior plane, but that's a red flag right there. Okay Senior citizens always want bit your morning wine no matter what they're always complaining All right. Well, you know not all of them. That's not true I'm I'm gonna stand by that because I have a 75 year old male model that's been with me six years. Okay He's never hurt me. He's always done everything to support this company from down to up to whatever I remember he's one of the guys that even caught somebody trying to walk out with one of the shirts at a Fashion show a young girl Listen a 14 year old was running out of the venue. But you know what? We had tug of war with her She had autism. We didn't know she loved the shirt so much. I said, you know what I didn't know I said take the shirt And keep it honestly don't even I didn't want no money for it because you can't A kid with autism you cannot You you can't you can't blame because they don't know no better. Okay. They don't realize what's going on They're smarter than us, but they don't You understand what I'm coming from that's a different situation Okay Now for a woman that's in her late 60s to do what she did when I'm about to explain it's fucked up because I didn't know about it I'm gonna get right to the point now we know that The plastic and everything was pulled off the dresses and I had no clue why because I I said why would somebody do that? You know, I said that a staff member come down here. I didn't notice that these dresses were missing because the rack was stuffed We only had one rack down there, you know And that was it. Okay. Here. I'm thinking we're going to a hotel. It's not a hotel But it's called the hotel shantel, but where's your rooms? Where's your clothing racks? Wait a minute. So this is false advertisement.  I'm like, but that's not a hotel. Where do people sleep at the end of the night? People that actually flew to my show that thought they were going to be able to rent the hotel room here Where's the rooms? Okay, well, that's a good way to get people to come to your club. You know that tourism Oh come to our club at the end of the night when you ask for the room. Oh, we don't have rooms here. Sorry The cardboard box up the road you could stay there for the night is cheap But go to a hostel That's the sweet the refrigerator box You know false advertisement. It's everywhere. You can't whatever I don't do it I I played the honest game, but you know, let's get to the point now. So You know, I really need to express this and get it out. So basically Here comes the time where My models are ready to rock the runway and this is the first walk. So I had a nice plan for the buyers that were there I was going to walk The button-up shirt line and I had about six of those including myself wearing one Okay, and they were all black plasma silk shirts. There was one that was cotton polyester, which I was going to wear Now all my male models two of them purchased the shirts Two of them were brought by one of our models, which it's awesome. You know, I'm saying they you know, of course I probably would have just gave the shirts away now Those were gone Nowhere on the rack. The only shirts on the rack was the two black ones. One was mine and one for another model Full missing Okay, they were all sized out for each model So I'm sitting here lost. I'm going I got 25 models in the room. What can I wear? Where's my dress? Paul, where's my dress? We're and here I am going, okay I'm freaking out. I'm the only one. So Beth is helping me out. Everybody's trying to help, you know Crystal was doing makeup. Whatever, you know, everybody was doing something. So You know, she's trying to help me out and I'm going Beth the dresses aren't here I'm like the dresses I made for these models are gone.  We just got something right now I'm like, yeah, but we can't just put, you know dresses and and things on models that don't fit them And I said there's a certain theme to what I'm doing.  They're coming out first Okay, I have my performers coming up I have the guys coming out and then I got the girls coming out in the evening gowns because we're doing the High-fashion dress wear. It's supposed to be in unisync. You know, it's got to be, you know You have to keep those things correct On the runway Whatever the model does on the runway, it don't matter. That's my thing.  I want them expressing themselves but When it comes time to the buyer's market, they're looking for A collection to come out. Okay. Here comes the button-up shirt collection. Okay. Oh, I love that I like that color. Oh, I like that color. Okay. There's a couple of white button-ups, you know with the black plasma. Look Now the buyer sees the shirts. I like the button-up collection. So they check that off. Okay Now you got the evening gowns coming out Not everyone are going to get liked.   You made me look bad in front of people why I don't know It makes me wonder is she in contact with people, you know They did a hater, you know, I don't know what the story is and what the scenario is situation of what happened But all I know is those things were gone Okay, so we they walked the show whatever came down for the second run Here she comes Oh, there's that blue sequin dress Oh, that's the one that's oh, please can I wear it? I said This is a showcase model. It belongs to crystal. I made it for her as a gift She's really the only one that wore this dress, you know, and she was there. She she was okay with her wearing it But I did say The stress needs to come back Because this is a sentimental showcase model dressed and there's only one of these I said these are going to made be made more of often this one I said you got to bring it back Oh, I'll bring it back. I promise of course Okay I never saw the dress again after that. Okay, because I was so busy that You know, that's how it is at the show It's hard to find me Because when you have the promoters pulling you to one direction You got the lighting guy pulling you to this direction. You got this partner pulling you this direction You got the management of the corporate.   Come on. What knuckleheads? What numbskulls? All right, but you know what? It's not their fault It doesn't matter people forget their stuff. Okay. They were from other countries. All right Shit happened, but it doesn't matter you they look their age Okay, which just put it like that and I think in new york city. There is a law that if you look over 40 years old Let me come on man Seriously, what's getting real with that? But let's get away from that point. Anyway, we're gonna get back to so There she is, you know Who knows when she did it, but I I believe that it was during the time where everybody was upstairs in the beginning She got down there and stuffed up a bag with shit. Okay got back upstairs Finally saw the dress that she actually came for Okay, took that dress and took a very very expensive sentimental valued piece to me Okay, even though whatever happened with the traumatizing breakup, it's still something that I got her for her anniversary a sewn Item that was made in paris. Okay A lot of money we're not gonna get into that I died it. We have that thing four years The only reason she didn't want to wear it was because there was a problem with it In the back of the neck the sequin would rub against your neck and kind of like irritate the neck. So I was gonna take it in and have it rehabbed, you know And I was gonna have them, you know, rehab it, but they want the 2,500 bucks to do this. Okay, so When you're dealing with expensive shit, that's what it costs to have it re Altered so that this way it wouldn't scratch the neck part. Okay I put it aside. I said when I have the cash and time I'll do this, you know And it was really no concern about it because she had plenty of Beautiful dresses that were worth probably a hundred thousand dollars worth of dresses at least in her wardrobe. Okay Now the amount the amount that was stolen you documented the estimated value of everything that was stolen by this woman Well, now I have the estimated value and you know, I still want to critique it first to make sure that I'm not wrong you know and I know what she took, you know, and basically I want to bring up how I approached her Okay So I didn't find out this till maybe a week and a half later, you know after the show two weeks after the show well You know my model beth mentioned to me, you know crystals dress. Um that lady got it. I think she goes I don't think she ever got it back and then I asked crystal. I'm like Do you know anything of this? She's like no, you know, I I I think you know, she she might have taken and I'm like, but look Might have and and and you know taking it is two different things.  Okay So That being said We're looking at two grand lost and in my mind When when models wanted to rent certain items from me I would rent them and lease them out to them And I had weekly deals, you know for really expensive items Now what she's got the two items alone the dress is six grand And I'm pricing the jacket at six thousand because the jacket's used but you know I could price it at 12 if I want my workers on there. I can price it at 50 if I want Okay, I can go to walmart and buy a shirt And dye that shirt and put a beautiful design on it and sign my name to the shirt How do we know what it's worth? I didn't give myself to a celebrity designer name. No the media gave me that name Okay I worked for it. I worked for this and I didn't really care about fame fame doesn't mean that much to me You know what meant to me was making people happy and seeing them wearing nice clothing on the runway and doing something unique and different You know and enjoying themselves But at the same time networking and getting work for themselves now you know It took her six days to get back to me But every single day before that Of me approaching her and I could show this she sends me a cup of coffee. Good morning. Paul. How are you every day? Now she did read my message.  Yes, Paul. I have the items. I'm sorry It was a misunderstanding. Whatever.  I don't know her. Have a nice day That's it. I don't have it's not my job to have to recommend there as long as I don't say Oh, you can't do this. You can't because it's against the law for me If I was to hire her as an employer To go to another employer and badger her But this ain't badgering her because if the employer comes out and goes did she steal from you? Yes, she did Yes, and I did file charges. Okay. I have every right to be honest if they ask me that, okay but I normally don't do that shit.  I'm sorry, you know I don't want to ruin anybody's life for their career. But in this case, she stole a high value amount of your Hard-earned fashion. Oh, she messed up now that I think about it.  Okay I paid to have whoever needed their makeup done there and she is going to get a bill now from nicky $45 and She had to use crystals Makeup because she was not she didn't have enough makeup to use. Okay John enough makeup in a world for that old hires nicky to Do her makeup. Okay. I believe that if you're professional A professional model is going to hire her own makeup artist Okay, you're going to bring your own MUA with you because professional models do that Okay, or they do their own makeup. I have a lot of models But then you know on the other hand sometimes it's hard for a professional model to afford it So the venue or you know the host of the show we usually supply that but in 30 days I wanted to get Sephora on board My my sponsor package went out too late to them. They said honestly, we'll do the next show But this is just too short of notice for us to jump in on this. It was only like four days. They had It was no way they can bring the staff in that I needed to do this But the next show I'll do it, you know What was done to me and the other models is totally wrong because those models not only did they not get to walk in the dress that they wanted But they didn't get to take that item home with them in the meantime this woman sitting at home with the dress Okay, now I'm going to get to the bottom end of this of where She got me so upset where I had no choice at that point then to go live with this So she's already admitted to having these items and she's going I mail the package out I said give me a tracking number It doesn't matter. I mailed it out. Stop harassing me. I said, I'm not harassing you I said, did you include the jacket in the package? She doesn't answer me. Okay A day goes by then she answers me the package is mailed out I said, did you include the jacket in the package again? And I kept on asking her Then she comes out and I said, you know what and I said to be honest with you I will never recommend you to anybody and you'll never walk my show again because you stole from me and my models I said you messed up my show. I said you denied on getting back to me You know in the proper amount of time to allow me to know you had the dress where crystal and I both could have made money I said which it caused us to lose money now on that. I said hard work You take from us Then she comes out and goes I'm going to tell people you take money from them And at that point I'm like what excuse me. I said go ahead I said I even give you my own permission right here right now You can even go live with this and post it on facebook. I said because I'm going to tell you one thing You open that can of worms. I'm not going to close it. I'm going to allow more and more worms to come out I said you make your bed. You're going to sleep in that bed. I said now go and tell people I take money for them and see what they tell you but I said make sure you explain Why you're saying these things to me? After she heard that Then she comes out because she knew she couldn't get me on that now Oh, well, I'll just tell people you flirted with me I then sent her a picture You made my day. I sent her a picture. I said really I'm flirting with you. I said in this picture You're all over me.   I said I normally I don't say things to the elderly because I respect My elders I said and I wanted to say but not crooks like her Man, she got away with some of the most precious pieces. Okay, and thinking that she only told me about the dress in the beginning Then I found out about the jacket Okay, so at this point I'm furious. I'm going, you know, now you've got two of my items and that's worth about $12,000 between both of them because I priced them both at six. I said right now That's a class a phony on you if I was to press charges. I said, I'll tell you what How about this you never walk any of my shows again? I don't recommend you You send the items back that you stole that I only knew about the jacket now and the dress I didn't know about the other stuff yet. Okay 100% what she said. Listen. She wasn't telling me about it. Okay so then We get into the conversation. I'm like you send those items back to me I said I want it signed for Okay, certified And I want a tracking number We'll bring this again.   Oh boy. He got me on that one.   Listen, I gotta make a statement I gotta make a stable my my lucky black thorn shillily shillily from ireland This woman is only qualified to model for polydent And tie dye depends adult diapers. That's it And I think I think the big fuss she kept on making Was part of her big distraction paul All the fussing and that this old diva kept on making throughout that event You know Well the next show I like the next show I think I want to bring the models on live And I want them to express how they felt when they found out My dress ain't there and and I'm freaking out. You know here. I'm sweating and I'm feeling bad enough that now their dresses aren't even there, you know I have to solve this problem because guess what? It's on me It's all on me at the end of the day. Okay I'm responsible Yeah, I have to take and accept the responsibilities of this because You know, I guess I gotta say it's my fault for not having the proper people down there But my stylist that I paid didn't show up He's from the uk. He had a perfect reason. His mom was dying. Okay I saw the footage on facebook. That's that's a reasonable excuse But not coming. I'm not going to tell anybody. Oh, you have to be here.  We all know that we all love our moms. My mom's gone We know the feeling But now when I have two other people that I hired that I paid 40 bucks a piece It's not much but it's something and you're getting to come to a great show and network And we're not charging you for that I need you to come and do makeup They never show up, but you've already paid them. You never hear from them again They block you on facebook. There's no way of contacting them Okay, it's 80 bucks.  I don't have time to sit there going after them for 80 dollars I just don't it sounds like etsy.  But that's another story. We open that up next, you know, year Right, let me ask you a question Who was who was responsible for security? Was it the hotel shlong tell The shoulders the whole cow I did express to them.   Yes, shantel. We're coming after you Hey, you did not take care of what you were supposed to security should have been downstairs Protecting those dresses And the hotel shlong tell security should should have been checking bags at the door Since they're not they're not really concerned about the id Oh, but they they could check id's, okay But they can't check bags, right?  Oh, yes, mr. Manter anything you need Oh, don't worry about the clothing down there. Why don't you come upstairs and have a couple of drinks? I said I don't drink And it gave me a whole stack of drink tickets free drink tickets top shelf. So I said, oh, yeah great Yeah, my models deserved it. So I'm going around to all my models that would left behind I give John Stevens, you know my oldest model 75 years old walked the runway with his kneecaps that he just got replaced, okay And he walked the runway Yeah, I give it to him. He's a great guy.  I let them get away with it but this time Yeah, but you didn't only steal from me.  I want you to make a public apology to all the models for what you did I didn't say nothing wrong to her. I don't think I harassed her But I did say this don't make me have to go down to new york pd I'll have to go to the venue I'll have to call the cops. They'll have to come to the venue and see all the footage We'll have to investigate. It's going to cause time and money for the new york pd as well as myself I said and I promise you when i'm done you will be arrested in throne. I'm sure in rikers island because that's where you go Well, I said but you're not only going to be charged with that but you know, you're also going to be sued in court I said so let's give you an alternative. I said I don't want to put anybody in jail. I said So I'll give you a fee I said you paid 2,500 where Now I'll be able to supply my models new dresses because I don't want the old ones. I'm going to take them back. Yes But I don't know what you did to them I don't know if you put them on they become secondhand. They were made for those models. They bought them. That's it I said so you paid a 2,500. I'll rental fee for having all those items And I'll walk away and leave you alone and that's it and let bygones be bygones, but she didn't want to go there Then she started making more harassing threats to me And I'm going you know really I said after I went and did all this for you And I made you an offer then she comes out and goes I want my 35 dollars back. I said what? What she stole thousands of dollars of merchandise retail value and she wants I'll give you your stuff back.   She's she thinks you're bluffing Is what she goes like this james. Well, I'm I'm old. She says on the phone But I think I also got it in messages Yeah, she did say I'm old and met but on the phone she goes I'm old and the cop's ain't gonna arrest an old lady. I'm like, really?  I said, where's your man?   That's five grand at least I said all your clothing is expensive I said, did you steal that from other designers?   Come on She is the only one on the one way that does that stuff.  Please. I said, oh now she's got Let's be an example for my children and my grandchildren. Yes grandchildren if you're poor and you're old You can steal from people because it's okay.  They're not gonna lock you up as long as you're over 60 This woman, you know, this is This is this is a hum dinger of a story. I'm glad we did we did this live show Because this woman what you're telling me is is unbelievable that the colossal Nerve of this woman to say these things I mean, look Kelly Collina. She did something nice man at the end of the show She was missing pieces beautiful jewelry designs. Everybody loved them One of the models loved it so much that She signed her name and everything and gave her whatever information to her When the jewelry designer put those necklaces on us, she never seen her again So listen to this story Now the jewelry designer contacts the the woman that stole her necklaces The woman tells her this i'm moving right now She lives in new york city. She goes to all the new york city clubs her pictures posted up there too With the necklaces on She tells the designer I'm busy right now and i'm moving so when i'm done doing that i'll contact you. I said listen As being a jewelry designer and me being a professional business owner I said that's a red flag. She's telling you she's moving She'll contact you when she's done.    Oh, yeah the poor card with with the with the main coach. Sure She's playing the children and or grant and and or grandchildren card Yeah, you know how like like some people play The gender card.  Oh, you're homophobe. Oh, you're racist.  So Yeah, I mean, I know a lot of people, you know, look a lot of people look at situations as You know, I haven't seen every any evidence of this and I I I can't I can't believe this, you know, but I'm gonna just try to show this on on film here Okay, well at the end of the day, I'm gonna read this to everybody here Okay, so this is at the end of the conversation when I started bringing up the legal formatting of of what she did And the consequences because I looked it up on google research, you know Of course anything of over a thousand dollars becomes a felony right Now when you when you steal items that are worth over 20 grand Worth the product that's big time. It becomes a class-safe felony so I told her about all this I said the conversation is over you've lied enough to me You left me no choice then to take legal action because now I find out that you have more product Then I thought I said here you're sending me I guess the jacket and dress back, but you weren't going to send the other items You were going to keep those which shows me that you've been dishonest here Totally dishonest. I said for a grown woman at age 66 or whatever your age might be I said you don't set a good example on today's youth I'm like here you are people look up to you at younger ages I said, but you're setting a bad wrong example by showing them. It's okay to take from other people her own family Children or grandchildren or whatever she said setting on especially when you sit then then you try to make false accusations Saying I take money from people and that I flirt with you. I said what was next you were going to say I try to touch you She goes your package I don't know if you can see this, but she says your package is arriving Monday after I write all that Yeah, just No, no, you gotta you gotta hold it Hold it longer and straighten it like directly face it. It's too far away. Get get close to the webcam And and let it focus If people can see it, but but but you know, I'm sure you have you know, I just want to say so Documented you can print Let me let me read what she writes your package has arrived Monday. I am very sorry again I apologize. Of course. She's sorry. I think that's not the point. You stole What is my company and models to to lose money? The part you're not looking at she goes. I am very sorry for all these inconvenience I said who's gonna pay those who's gonna pay those losses?  She goes. Look, I don't have no money and I'm very poor. I'm I'm gonna I'm not I'm I'm not rich.   She goes tell crystal. I'm very sorry as well I don't want the money back. You can keep it. Thank you so much. I don't want the 35 dollars back You can keep it after she's sitting here apologizing for stealing all that stuff Okay, what about the merchant dies? She keeps on talking about the the measly 35 dollars What about the stolen merchant dies?  Okay. She goes. I still want to become your friend I said what friend And I said look crystal wants to file charges. She goes why I just sent her clothes back Friend and then then she goes look. I didn't steal nothing. I just returned back your stuff What I didn't steal nothing. I just returned. I said just because you returned it after stealing it You stole it.   It's in your possession. You stole it The crime was already because i'm sending it back to you means I didn't steal anything The crime was already committed. Of course, they're gonna press charges for shoplifting or whatever Here. Oh, it's like If if you embezzle, uh, that's like uh, bernard made off Saying oh, I'll return all the uh, the multibillions. I I took from Rich people. All right. I'll get me off the hook. Yeah, right. Listen to this So then she goes you want to go so far. I didn't keep nothing you will receive it closed on monday Okay, I said you did steal you took them into your possession. I said crystal just called You know the cops which we try to find out some things And you know we're talking about pressing charges. She goes Can you and crystal please forgive me?  They start making things worse on themselves and they'll lie even more You know, these are the dumbfounded people.  Okay And then she goes I said, look, I've made my decision. Then she goes by Paul I said you lied then say you didn't steal then what what is it called to you? I said she goes. Look, I have kids Stop with this. Please again with the kids and and her so-called poverty As she keeps on bringing up the same excuses my kids my poverty lack of funds Okay, I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say where she lives.    That's the thing people get wrong.  Okay Just to get in the front cover of a magazine could be six to ten thousand dollars Or even inside of a magazine I'm surprised.   The good part is is the models All excited about getting their stuff that night. Okay waiting and all excited to get their things Not to be there that hurt me more than anything because you know what It didn't hurt me as much as them walking on the runway. It hurt me that they didn't get to take home with a boy Yeah Do something like that. I want to ask why She had her eye on the sequin dress. Okay Why didn't she just take that? Why does she have to go and take everybody else's shift before they walked on the runway? That's my question.  It's funny how all the other stuff that wasn't in plastic was left behind That's what I don't understand.  A lot of stuff There could be accomplices there could be accomplices with her you never know But I can't blame it on other people because guess what she's the one that was at the show She's the one in possession of the property. She's the one that did this And I'm going to end this show just like this I'm going to press charges And I'm going to make sure that justice is sure served here I'm going to make sure that each and every one of my models get restitution for this Okay, and they're they're time that they put into getting ready for this show to wear those dresses Trust me. She's going to pay for each and every one of them She's going to pay the cost of what possibly could have happened if a buyer would have bought that We don't know there's no price on that She's going to pay the cost for having those dresses in her possession. Okay. Well, not just the dresses the other items that Exactly everything you forgot about the other item She's going to pay for the damages that she caused to this show and to other people Okay, because after what I did for her For her to go and do this to me and to everybody else. It's wrong It's wrong and I don't care how old she is.  I am going to jail for something I didn't do two months ago. Okay only for charges to get dropped because they knew what they did and trust me I'm still going after you shanago county after what happened to me Oh, that's another for this woman if I allow her to get away with this Guess what? She can destroy the rest of the industry. She might go to other designers or other clubs and steal from other people And and keep getting away with it I can't I you know, everybody I asked their opinion on facebook I said help me out because I really don't have the heart to do that Yeah, yeah, but it's it's only business like like they said into godfather So I haven't got to put an old lady in jail that has grandchildren You asked me that question. No, I don't but I throw I throw her in In the state penitentiary for what she did, you know all in all You know, she she has all her faculty. She doesn't have Alzheimer's Or or any form of dementia. She knows what she's doing. She's a slick Opportunity, I know but I kind of ask myself ask myself these questions. My grandma is gone But would I want somebody to throw my grandmother in jail? Probably not, you know And would I would I try to stick up her probably so but I wouldn't stick up if she did something all like this now But you know, we've all had all little times when we were young and kids where we stole a candy bar from the store I'm not afraid to admit it, but you know, I learned my lesson over It's thousands of dollars worth of product. So that's what makes me think about it Yes, am I going to do something legal? Yes.  But when she came out and said I'll tell people you flirt with me That right there did it all because that made me go. What are you going to do next?    She's got to exploit this Being that it's in vogue now a days, you know what I mean the phony line I hope she she likes jail because you know, it's not going to be a pleasant vacation It might it might end up being a staycation for her The phony lying with the sexual harassment charges. She's got look she's gonna She's going to use every sneaky excuse in a book to keep her wrinkled shriveled ass out of Jail or prison she's going to do this And if she was an honest woman The best Thing that could have happened out of all this if she was completely honest and a nice woman Is she would have represented people in her age group on the runway? That's if she was a decent honest Respectable woman that appreciate paul anthony manthee's generosity and charity She would have went on on the runway and represented seniors wearing attractive tie-died clothing Well those clothing that she wore The lingerie had nothing to do with me. I just want everybody to know that I I got to be honest My runway's got a lot more class than that. I put classy items out I don't put stuff out that's showing Every single thing on the model, especially when we got live video going out there We got family members and kids watching that. I don't think that the family members, you know, want to see that live on video, you know Honestly, a lot of models were uncomfortable wearing it.  I said I and another designer comes on the runway I leave it up to the models if they want to walk for them, they walk for them But you know, that's your prerogative and I don't blame you if you don't want to walk an exposure entire Well, there are models. Why am I doing that because and and that's you know, I don't I don't knock it You know, I don't have no knocking with it, but there's a time and place for everything, you know And her being in those outfits, I got to be honest I'm not going to say much, but you know, I think you can pretty much read my mind Well, there are models that uh, usually the looks like a baby in diapers models that usually the other models That will wear scantily clad outfits and risqué clothing and then there are other models that don't feel comfortable in it and that's fine Well, you know what gets me man? And I have to laugh about this When I look at her in that lingerie outfit, I'm not knocking the designer on this. So I don't want them to get the wrong idea If it was put on somebody beautiful That can actually wear those I'm not saying she's not beautiful, but she's not at the age to wear something like that, you know It kind of takes away it takes away from the designer as well because you're only going to get the elderly crowd And and even the elderly crowd came to me going Paul What's wrong with you? Why would you put an old lady like that? You know, like I wouldn't even do something like this I said look, it's not my Clothing I said I expected to just put her in dresses, you know Which is blind to have an older woman on the runway in dresses. No, it's one thing to have Plus sizes, which is very common I always have plus size of course Because many many plus size models have you got the best plus size models Many plus size models have beautiful faces And uh, they're curvaceous and and they they're they're quite lovely But when you're taking a senior citizen, you know what if not people's faults that they're plus size, you know Some people got a thyroid problem. You can't you can't put them That's very rare in reality the thigh a slow metabolism thyroid A hypo thigh a hypo hypo thyroidism is really rare, but regardless regardless why And you know how I feel I mean everybody deserves a chance on the runway and that's it and that's up to them the way they present themselves, you know But when you present yourself and stealing from people I you know, I I really have a loss of words here.   We all've done something. Okay, but it's the ones that learn their lessons early And then decide to take the right road instead of going to the wrong road It's it's the people that Don't learn and they you know when they don't get caught for something and they continue to do it, you know You got to get caught to you know kids grow up learning. That's what it is.  I got one already and I told him he's big time and when i'm trying to say When you hear all him man, you're not gonna mention names, bro But I got one of the biggest most famous publishers in the world That knows about my story, man, and he knows my story for years. He's been on facebook You're one of them. You're in there. I don't have I don't have good kentucky straight bourbon whiskey in here for no reason at all I just want to say that the part I had one little sip Hey, i'm the host here brother Part two of the paul anthony man the story is much deeper and more heavy duty than this story This is part one. This is this is heavy duty. This is deep But part two is connected to that documentary you're talking about. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, well, it's the documentary and it's the release of uh, I'm not gonna sing this but you know It's the release of this track that i'm gonna have coming out, you know Oh We're not we're not playing out. We're gonna do another segment. We're not Here we go You know Beautiful job, but we'll just say It's gonna be a great release party because how i'm gonna have this planned is Let me tell you i'm gonna need major sponsors on this one But i'm gonna say it's definitely costing a couple of million dollars to do What i'm gonna do when i release everything the whole idea is to release the the single The musical single on the on this documentary, okay Release the documentary To release the book and to release our live our live video. Okay all at the same time But doing a release party on this, you know, I mean and i'm gonna make it so big that you know I want the world to hear this. Okay, so i'm gonna make some noise on it But the plan to me is to have a nice concert stage set up, you know with Multiple bands playing throughout the day in a nice runway show and then at you know about 11 o'clock at night We release everything, you know release the documentary, you know Of course, we're not going to play the entire documentary. We're just going to play Very previews of parts where people, you know, they can purchase it at a low cost, you know at the party They can purchase it under a donation We like trailers, they'll be trailers, of course So, you know How I plan on doing it is I do want to use real life people in this But I know that i'm going to not get the real life people I want to use because they're going to deny it They denied dr. Phil They turned down kimberley from the casting she man, I can I wouldn't expose our messages because it's confidential, but She's on my facebook, you know, she tried to get the show on there. She emailed her You know, we tried everything, but we do know that, you know, they give live detective tests And i'm a hundred percent i'm a thousand percent willing to put those things on my wrist or give me the government one I have nothing to hide But I know the other person has to hide so when somebody comes out in an email and says I left you because Of struggle. I don't want to be around somebody that struggles Okay, when somebody leaves me an email like that tell me I'm not around people anymore that struggle like you Yeah, but that's the real world Wait a minute.   I already got rid of that out of my head, but you know what?  She's in she's in like Alice. She's like Alice in wonderland So to speak the one that we named the cat Alice. Yeah. Oh, by the way, you have that older gentleman But Alice is smart I'm not saying anything bad about it And i'm not going to put it up in the show.  I'm like a problem. I don't feel because it's not only one person who played a part in this Okay, my middle name is piranha when I used to work Put it all on that one person When I used to Oh, Nancy Kerrigan's Okay, my middle name is piranha when I used to work for pro wrestling. I you think i'm gonna I feel sorry for these for these scoundrels. He's scallywags. No way No, hey jay, go back to cnn. Okay CNN live Hey, let me tell you son. You got that older gentleman who's a model Let me tell you something can't create would have been a perfect male model for a firm. Let's put him on the next show We'll get can create on the next show, which will be bigger better more secured this time I'm gonna listen to What my models are saying, you know They're making suggestions when somebody has addressed that they didn't purchase You take their id Their license and you hold on to their license until they bring it back and if they don't bring it back Guess what? I have your license now. I'm going to the cops Here she is. She stole the dress. She wants her license back.  I'm gonna put it into my You know, I do have other people that run the company like my vice president and so when I have to put it in their hands You know, once it's in their hands, there's no holds bar anymore because he has no sympathy For people that steal, you know, he has sympathy for kids with autism, you know, he works with children He does a lot of things with kids But he has no tolerance or sympathy For people that try to hurt me or my company, you know why because he knows me a long time. I've lived with him We know each other very well His family is extremely famous I'm not mentioning what they do.  How can I I can't judge somebody, you know, just by looking at them.  I don't give you no more chances.  She goes. That's why, you know, you end up broke because you give all this away I'm like, well, you know, I can't change who I am She goes, yeah, but we survive and Change that around You know, I get gut feelings about people they don't make eye contact or if they if they get caught and in a lie, uh One lie will lead to a million lies, you know Actions actions are most important actions Not not not the appearance of somebody, but you know, they're judged by their actions and As far as this woman goes She she dug her own hole and It looks like she's She's already in it You know See what happens see see if that package really does come Let's hold this for a second. I got to go get somebody All right for the cat I'll I'll play a little uh voodoo drums of justice Now if I had the drum properly set you wouldn't be able to see the drums Was that cat the goth The awesome cat so Cats are pretty smart man, you know, and they can read people really well, you know Well animal, you know animals and young children, I believe can see even evil spirits. They can see demons Little dogs cats all animals could read could read people. I know that for a fact I asked the opinion of what I should do with the lady, you know, and I think he agrees He's pretty angry about it The proof is in the pudding what you should do with this lady. There is no doubt Even Even the three stooges can see what should be done with this lady, you know And when things like this happen, I I really like when everything's going smooth, you know Well, even the focus on what I really need to be focusing on, you know, like Setting up my new website that I'm building myself, you know, and you know, I'm working with tr magazine on certain things for next year I we got things going on with um the underworld guys We're going to put out, you know, one of my friends found that, you know, has introduced me well model Who's working with us as well has introduced us to a um photographer that does underwater scuba diving photographer He's licensed, you know, we're setting up to do something huge in the summer to release this product and this new Underwater glow dye, you know, we're talking about setting up a big shoot We're going to be very exclusive and very selective with the models on this one Yes, we are going to do a plus size shoot, but we're going to keep those two Separate because we don't want to, you know, you can't distract what's going on, you know, I'm saying so We're going to have categories, you know, we got the swimsuit models that are Petite, you know and tall doing it. We got the short models doing it. We got the You know the plus size models getting out there Plus is okay as long as they have a real pretty face a beautiful face plus is okay Okay, well, you know, however we put it, you know, everybody's putting in their own way. So No, not really a mother Teresa was a great woman, but she was ugly as law help I'm sorry. I'm sorry.  I invest in, you know, my rent or whatever I got to pay You know, I mean and when I when I get You know, if people really knew the amount of money that it costs Me as a designer to just do these shows, you know, it's a lot of time and money, you know What's that 22 hours a day not getting sleep, you know for 30 days straight The cost of labor the cost of the dyes The the material cost the everything everything combined, you know And then to be profusely lied to by this old head, you know, I mean, um You know what I hold Hotel Chantel Partially partially responsible for what happened concerning this woman because they dropped the being they wouldn't allow me to supply my own security They made a fuss about that. Oh, we're corporate. We want to be assholes, you know What's wrong with me supplying? What if a model came in with her own security guard? You're gonna tell. Oh, you can't well. I want to protect my assets and myself I'm afraid that maybe one of your drunk guests might touch me because they got a foul crowd that comes in here You know, when I brought this crowd in there. These are very wealthy people and very respected people Well respected companies that came to the show. Okay. I mean we had youtube in the house We had we had a lot of people in the house. I don't want to mention certain names, but you know, look You don't do things around people like that, man. You know, it's just wrong. I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean, I mean It's it's a Obviously a bogus hotel, but but they dropped the ball their security team definitely Dropped the ball and because of that The woman came in with this empty suitcase that she had on top of it on top of it. Monica Trombly, okay, she's one of our models, right? She sat down with her friend and I gave them bottle tickets. Okay Now I didn't know anything. I thought these bottle tickets were free because I don't really deal with alcohol. Okay I didn't know you've got to give $30 tip or whatever.  It's not my my, you know, type of business I don't get you got to have an open now because you know, now I'm thinking about With big shots, you know, I'm learning about the bar industry because now I do have bartenders that will actually work the bar, you know And I am thinking about getting my own obtaining my own one-day liquor license for every show that I do This way I'll have control of what's price.  They try to rob her blind.   Okay, wait a minute. I'm gonna order some food But they're not going to give me a menu. They're not going to tell me the price until I'm done eating Oh, by the way, you just say $200 worth of food. What? Now, hey, now you know why I never go into the city Well, I'm not going to blame all the places.   It's almost like they're giving you a sample to try but no there it ends up being on the bill Yeah, man, so I think we're gonna get about to close this because it's 5 19 p.m. And I I have to run to the store now and well I I I have to tend to other things too actually about 5 30s to cut off but no We're gonna get a big storm right here. So, um Yeah, well, we I gotta I gotta take a look and see how much snow we have outside now We're gonna get it where we are and I'm not mentioning where we are But you know, we're we're in a very special hideaway that somebody provided and you know, we really appreciate that person Well, you you you were going to have a bigger winter one of the land than me I was provided actually i'm provided two places Where I can actually you know do my work now I and I'd stay, you know one hand is washing the other we help each other out. So I I do refuse at this time of my life to even mention where i'm staying and I ended up in jail for something I didn't do okay All I gotta say is it and and the charges were dropped And once again, I'm coming after you shanago county. I hope that judge is ready for full man to you because I'll tell you what It's bad what they did to me because it shows on paper They messed up by writing what they wrote in the documents And I'm not going to announce that yet, but next year I will you want to I got a great lawyer a very famous lawyer who's taken this case because he hates He hates you know police brutality and court brutality and when courts do things to you You know for all the wrong reasons are you allowed to at this current time to summarize the uh that uh Legal issue up in in upstate new york. Is there anything you want to say to summarize it without mentioning Anything and I can't speak on camera at this time, but okay. Okay. I'll promise you we can discuss this in a person Well, you know, yes. Okay. All right. All right. It's on a wrong time, you know Well, I found it very uh shocking that when you left florida you You you thought you were going to have bliss and and and peace up in uh upstate new york I didn't have I didn't have a lot of peace. Okay.   I said, I love your pieces I want you to come to the show.  I never met her. I don't know where she came from And I'm wondering if she wore one of my items and walked out. I don't know yet You know I gotta take time and go through the entire inventory now I tell you one thing. I know all about I know all about precious stones. I see my my crystal I got a crystal. Oh, are you giving me that? Let me take it here. No, no, no, that's fine These are I can't grab it through the camera. We don't have that kind of technology. Listen to me. Oofa. Oofa these These are special crystals. These are Everyone is different and some of them some of these pyramids are made from a crystal stone A stone that wards off negative energy And evil some of them they all have a different purpose I don't have time to to to announce All of them, but this is my collection And I even have a oh, wait a minute. Oh, this is interesting. Here we go.  Oh, no, you're you're coming back with something I guess next time I got to set up a better background here Intermission, where did you go? Oh, we got this Oh, yeah, man Oh, there you go. You know what happened I don't know. I don't know if this is going to be part of the show But we're we're almost done anyway, but my computer Mysteriously Restarted on its own I don't know. I don't know if there's a there's an evil force Involved here, but after I showed the pyramids the computer restarted And I don't I won't I don't have time to warm them up, but I have copper dividing rods Where, you know, you ask a question and if they come together like this, it means yes If they move apart it means no But I also have a pendulum made of rock crystal And um, let me see if it'll it'll usually it works fast Crystal, I mean crystal pendulum This woman Uh, this old lady Did she plan On still keeping More merchandise That that she stole and not return it to Paul See it's going clockwise. I'm not moving it. It's going clockwise. It means yes She still plans on keeping merchandise interesting Interesting, okay pendulum I'm positive that she She is planning on keeping me because you know at this point She's like, okay if I send them all of it Then he's gonna know you know, I mean I'm but I already know because she's already admitted it Apologizing for taking it all now.    Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry Right. Hold on because my arm pendulum this got a man This woman has she lied in uh with all the uh The attempts to soften up Paul Anthony Manthia As she lied every time Oh, look at this. It's going clockwise. That means yes Wow, look at this. Look at the crystal the crystals I'm not moving this crystal Paul. I'm serious All right. All right has nothing to do with the The model crystal. This is the rock real rock crystal Look at that. It says yes. She's a pope. She's a pathological liars What she is the scallywag a scoundrel a fallibuto now Will pause get full restitution from this old hag Complete and full restitution With the law and monetarily It might not happen right away this restitution, but oh it's saying yes It's going clockwise. Now if it was going counterclockwise that means no No, I'm not moving this. I don't just want you to know. I'm not moving us Okay, so that means yes, you will get full restitution Monetarily and legally right pendulum Now this is sperm in a moment. I mean sperm in a moment that I That I decided to use this I wasn't going to bring mysticism into the show, but You know what I mean? It's saturday. I had some bourbon, you know Uh the snow out It's a lot of snow out. Oh, okay. All right, so when we close this man, let's close it up because um All right, let's close it up. Okay. Listen. I know I'm get down to the store before it gets crazy out here My cold coffee. I you know, I make one cup of coffee in the morning.  I like my coffee man. I like my coffee boiling hot And I like my hard liquor. I saw that you get that's always warm. It's just it's not hot No, it's not hot enough. You're right.   Yes. Yes. Got you. I got you All right, paul. It's been lovely. I will talk to everybody. Happy holidays, man.  We're gonna have sales coming up, you know and Hey Promoting the product serious and we're gonna have another show. I celebrate that we're gonna continue to have shows all over the world Happy happy a winter solstice. You will happy festivus and hail crampus And maybe soon we'll do a live um thing on facebook, you know before the holidays Maybe I learned some christmas songs or something. I don't know Yeah, well, you know, it sounds pretty good songs out there, you know and I'll play a little bit and let people hear me that haven't heard me When you play the acoustical guitar And and I play and I play the drums. So you see now is not too late at night See, I was able to really hit the drum The last time we did a show it was like really late and I was holding back on the drum But listen, we will talk off the air Trouble. All right, man. Go to the store. Bye. Bye. Bye


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