The Roma Wine Company of Fresno, California, presents Suspense! Roma Wines bring you Mr. Joseph Cotton. A star of the earth is made of glass. A suspense play produced, edited and directed for Roma Wines by William Spear. Suspense! Radio's Outstanding Theater of Thrills is presented for your enjoyment by Roma Wines. That's R-O-M-A. Roma Wines. Those excellent California wines that can add so much pleasantness to the way you live. To your happiness and entertaining guests. To your enjoyment of everyday meals. Yes, right now a glass full would be very pleasant. As Roma Wines bring you Mr. Joseph Cotton. In a remarkable tale of... Suspense! Good morning, Dr. West. Good morning, Ms. Adams. Well, there's one bed vacant this morning. I see that 4.36. Mr. Steele died 4 a.m. Yes, I was there. Culinary from bosses. You're not terribly concerned, Dr. West? Why should I be especially concerned? Well, the day nurse, Miss Rosenberg, said that you and Mr. Steele... You girls gossip too much. Yes, doctor. But I understand there's no family. What am I going to do with Mr. Steele's things? What things? Well, his overcoat. This parcel was in it, this book. He said it was his journal and he told Miss Rosenberg you would have it. He said it had important scientific data. Give it here. Yes, doctor. Journal of Richard Thomas Steele. Important scientific data, I'll bet. I still can't figure out what was eating that guy. But he had to say to me that was so darn important. What do people want to keep diaries? July 26th, not a fruitful day. The weather this morning was heavy, sticky. Lord knows what crazy stuff he's written here. July 26th, not a fruitful day. The weather this morning was heavy, sticky. I stayed indoors with the blinds drawn, spent three and a half hours arranging and cataloging his shipment of books. And I must say I gloated over my new volume of bacon, goal leaf, uncut, 1836, a treasure. In the afternoon I ventured out to play chess with Elliot. He's an uninspired player and a worse conversationalist. I'm appalled that a man of Elliot's pretension still wallows in 18th and 19th century thought patterns, twaddle in sentimentality. He's totally unaware of the potentialities of modern science. It was so apparent to me when we got into that argument over Ralph Waldo Emerson. I was thumbing through a volume he had of Emerson's essay. He's a cheap reprint at that. I was annoyed by a paragraph in the essay called, Compensation. I must have snorted because Elliot fairly leaped at me. Certainly, I think there's compensation for everything. Kid Fortat, measure for measure. Love for love. Do you contend, Elliot, that no matter what a man does, it comes back to him? One way or another? Yes, it does. Then if I do good, I get good back? Yes, I believe that, Richard. And if I commit a crime, I'm of necessity punished? Well, it depends what you mean by punishment.  Isn't that what Emerson says? I want to know what you believe. I believe what he says. Well, I'll read what he says. Discount the poetry, old man. He used lush language. Emerson says, Commit a crime and the earth is made of glass. Commit a crime and it seems as if a coat of snow fell on the ground such as reveals in the woods, the tracks of every pot ridge and fox and squirrel and mole. You cannot recall the spoken word. You cannot wipe out the foot track. You cannot draw up the ladder so as to leave no inlet or clue. Some damning circumstance always transpires. The laws and substance of nature, water, snow, wind, gravitation become penalties to the thief. Well, Elliot. Beautiful, isn't it? You read very well.  We're discussing his theory. I don't see how there can be any argument. We know... We know a good deal more than Emerson, you old fellow. Especially about the laws and substances of nature. We've tested the substances, learned control over the laws, the scientific method, Elliot. It cancels out every word your friend Emerson wrote, let's say, in compensation. The scientific method. I'd like to see it applied to some situations in nature, to human nature. All right. Say you commit a murder. Murder very well, say I do. Well, if you aren't caught by the police and that can be managed by an intelligent man, you still won't escape. Call it your conscience. That's what Emerson means.  What kind of a murder is that? Let me put it this way. When the police catch a murderer, they have found a connection between the murderer and his victim. Motive includes, right? And when a murderer is caught by his conscience, it is still because he is connected with his victim through his emotions. I agree so far. Well, how is a murderer caught if he is in no way connected with his victim? Well, that's not possible. I don't know. There could be a pure abstract murder, a murder occurring in almost a vacuum, a murder in which the only connection between the two participants is the unadulterated act of killing. July 28th. The weather continues warm, humidity high. Today I roamed around my library, read a little, fought a great deal. It's odd that I should keep referring back to my conversation with Elliot. Abstract murder. A laboratory murder. I jotted down one or two theoretical points today. It will be an amusing project in such hot weather. July 29th. What utter nonsense to think as I have of a laboratory experiment carried out in writing on paper. It's a contradiction in terms. The core of the scientific method is to prove theory in life, so... Let us prove the possibility of a pure murder. It must be someone met in an emotional and material vacuum. Someone with whom I have no connection, someone whom I have no possible reason to kill. The preparations for such a murder are of necessity, classically simple. This afternoon I bought my equipment. Gloves, sir? What kind of gloves? Oh, any kind of gloves. But what do you want them for? Driving? Gardening? I want gloves I can use for anything. Well, we call these utility gloves. Those will be excellent. Thank you. What size, sir? Any size, medium. Well, now, these look just about... No, no, no, I don't want to try them on. I'll take them as they are. Just wrap them up. Yes, sir. Just as you say. You know, I'm very fond of a genuine old-fashioned hardware store in Mr. Jeremy, like yours. Yes, a lot of people tell me that, Mr. Steele. Anything special you're looking for? I don't know. I suppose I'm just browsing. Yes, sir. Oh, what are those? Ice picks? Yes, sir, and pre-war metal, too. You want one? No, no, I have one. My, quite a selection. Screwdrivers? Oh, there's something I want. Oh, a knife? One of those. Well, to be fair with you now, those are pretty poor knives. Doesn't matter. Well, just no darn good as far as I can see. The best possible recommendation, Mr. Jeremy. I'll take it. A meaningless knife, all-purpose gloves, safe and gloves-new, factory-made, uncondaminated by human association, smelling only of the harsh, impersonal machines which turned them out. My first safeguards against the intrusion of emotion. In a laboratory, this procedure would be called controls, to complete the controls. Who would it be? I must never see his or her face. I must never know his or her name, age, occupation, thoughts or desires. I must come into contact with this victim as casually as though we were blown together by the wind. There can be no selection, no volition on my part except the elementary volition necessary to raise my arm to kill. July 30. The exact record of what has occurred. I must write it down now while it is fresh in my mind. I will be absolutely precise and objective. Very well. Tonight at some undetermined hour after dinner, I left my house on 74th Street with the new gloves and knife in my right-hand coat pocket. The only external circumstance I noted was that the air was hot, heavy and still. But after all, everyone is affected equally by weather, so my consciousness of it was no limitation on my experiment. I walked an undetermined number of blocks taking care to observe no street signs or landmarks. I observed only one thing, that there were many people on the street. In fact, I became aware only vaguely that I was pushing through a rather dense crowd, but I deafened myself completely to any specific words or conversation. And although I imagine there was traffic passing in the street, I successfully blotted out all sound except for a dull roar. It seemed to me that the ominous heat had increased. The stillness of the air was almost palpable. Perhaps it brought me sooner to the final resolution of my plan. But when I found my progress through the crowd blocked by what I can only describe as a human, I raised my knife and drove it into the back with all my force. I can't stand it, I can't! I continued walking without haste, pausing only a fraction of a second to hear. He's fallen! To hear those few words. He's fallen. Give him air. He needed no air, I knew that. And thus, I heard confirmed my unqualified belief that I had taken without any possible consequence to myself a human being's life. For suspense, Roma Wines are bringing you as star Mr. Joseph Cotton. In the Earth is made of glass by Sylvia Richards. Roma Wines' presentation tonight in Radio's outstanding theatre of thrills. Suspense! Between the acts of suspense, this is Truman Bradley for Roma Wines. First called to my dinners, says Miss Elsa Maxwell, is Roma California Sherry. For this delicious wine is a perfect beginning to a good meal. 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And now Roma Wines bring back to our Hollywood soundstage, Joseph Cotton has Richard Thomas Steele in The Earth Is Made of Glass, a play well calculated to keep you in suspense. August 1st. I was unable to write my journal yesterday because of the excessive heat. I suffered all day from a headache and a vibration in my ears. I'm writing today only to have on record the final control in my experiment, my laboratory murder. To assure complete ignorance of the identity of my victim, I shall read no newspapers for a period of two or three weeks and a whole conversation with anyone apt to be morbidly interested in murders reported in the tabloid press. Compensation. Cut cut, Mr. Emerson. August 4th. The heat is unbearable. All day I have felt that odd heavy vibration in my head. Now also in my arms and body, it is almost constant in a one, two, three rhythm and sometimes it is a sound as well as a vibration, like the distant sound of the sea. Must consult a doctor. Last night I was kept awake by the throbbing in my head and toward morning I was subjected to a new agony. Very softly at first, but louder and louder like voices heard in delirium, my head became filled with an almost hysterical babbling. Brilliant. Passionata. Brilliant. Passionata. Brilliant. Passionata. Brilliant. It is a nice anata. But for an instant have the voices stopped or even paused and they seem to keep time with the vibration at my heart. August 8th. I have no need to consult a doctor. Now I know the nature of my illness. Last night I turned to music trying to drive the unspeakable uproar from my brain. When I put the records on the machine, the Frank violin sonata and settled back to hear the first flowing melody of the violin something happened. The music swelled and changed and became, became the a passionata. Beethoven's a passionata. Brilliant. Then I knew I turned off the music. The devil's cycle began once more. The sound and voices rose to a bed of shrieking like the voices of fiends rose to a dreadful climax. Passionata. Your passionata. In spite of every precaution, my murder had not taken place in a vacuum. My shield had been penetrated by those fragments of sound and speech echoing in my ears. Speech about a concert. Yes. I remembered how. I read that Schnabel was to play an all Beethoven concert in Carnegie Hall on July 30th and the clanging of bells. That was a trolley going by on 7th Avenue and I'd also heard and identified the roll and crash of Summer Thunder. That was the sound which proceeded and punctuated a woman's scream. Well, it may be possible to drive all this away in time, but the other thing which sets the rhythm for the rest, the pulsing sound I hear, when I drove that knife home into a human being's heart, the vital rhythm of the heart, the mighty leap and contraction of the heart's muscle on the blade of the knife was transmitted back to me through my hand and remains indelibly recorded in the beat of my own blood. August 11th. While I am still able to reason, I must discover where I erred and act swiftly to correct my error. There is no turning back. The death I caused is a fact. I cannot banish it by wishing. For each day I remember something more. Today, the color of his hair. Photographed between the black color of his coat and his gray hat, I saw it. Clipped, silky reddish. And I had an insatiable desire to turn the head to see his face. There is one course left to me. I will reverse my plan. I will learn. I will learn in every possible detail the person whom I killed. Learn to know him. Construct a total portrait then. I will attempt to discard this portrait in its entirety. I beg your pardon, miss. I wear the newspaper files. Well, I'll have to get them for you. What dates did you want to see? The week of July 30th. Which paper? The Times. I'll start with that. Just a moment. I want them for the whole week. Here are all the copies for July, bound. And these loose ones are August so far. Thank you. They must not be taken out of the reading room. The reading room is to your right. Would you need them long? Maybe he may take me some time. I don't know. I'm doing some rather intensive research. Return them to the desk when you're through. I opened the bound volume near the end and immediately saw his picture, page one center. The photograph was blurred, but without reading a word, I had recognized him because he matched his hair.  The hair growing to a slight widow's peak, eyes widely spaced, grey or very light blue, mouth wide, young and strong. Then I read the words above the picture, young man slain in crowd. That was all I read because at a moment, someone spoke to me. Pardon me. When you're finished with that volume, may I look at it? It was impossible. It couldn't be. Standing at my shoulder, smiling, young, apparently, as alive as I, but it was. He was there. He, my victim. The face and the paper in his face were the same. I swear they were the same. I'm sorry to bother you. The girl at the desk said you had the July volume of the time. Yes, I am. I'm sorry that I startled you. Your picture, I... I'm looking at your picture. My picture? What do you mean in the paper? I don't see any picture. He's dead. I know he's dead.  I saw him fall. I must believe that he is truly dead. And the dead in either walk nor speak. But today on Fifth Avenue... Hello. What? What's wrong? Are you ill? No. No, no, no, I'm all right.  You're still green. Are you sure... I'm all right. Because I live right near here if you want to lie down. No, no, no, please. Well, it's up to you. I can't make you come. But I don't like to see anyone suffer needlessly. August 20th. He doesn't like to see anyone suffer. Yet because of him, there is not one day, one hour when I am free from despair and fear. Yes, I accept him now. The dead do walk and talk. At least one dead man does. Inevitably. If I venture out of my house, he finds me. Today I started down the subway steps at 53rd Street after I'd looked to make sure he wasn't anywhere nearby. But I'd gone only three or four steps and I felt my arm jostled in my turn. Pardon me. Oh, you again. I'll bet you think I'm haunting you. What do you want? Look, I don't want anything. Let's just call it fate or something. Why don't you let me alone? I've begun to think that maybe we were both to be spared this. I was superstitious. I'd say we had some unfinished business. Please, will you tell me something? Will you answer one question? Do. Do you believe in compensation? You'll have to explain what you mean. If someone does evil, if I have done evil, must I get evil back? Well, say it again. Do you believe in good for good, evil for evil? Look, look, what about killing? Well, there's all sorts of killing. But senseless killing. Killing with no reason. What is the compensation for that? You've asked a pretty complicated question of a pretty simple man. The only thing that comes to my mind right off is what it says in the Bible. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. That's what you believe? Why, yes, I believe that. Is that any help to you? Yes. Oh, yes. Anything you say would help. An eye for an eye. A tooth for a tooth. Like a man. The price asked by the only one who can ask it. What will you have, quote God? Pay for it and take it. Well, I'll pay. For I've learned that no event between two human beings can happen in a vacuum. We're all enmeshed bound together through our blood in a pulsing net. And if one of us does violence to another, he does violence to himself. Very well. This price I am glad to pay. There is no other way. Are you awake, Mr. Steele? Where am I? You're in Washington Hill Hospital. How do you feel? Hospital. But I mustn't die. I have to die. Not if we can keep you from me. Did... Did I bleed much? Bleed? On the knife. You had a heart attack, Mr. Steele. Coronary. No, I tell you here. I... I stab myself here. Where's the doctor? Lie down, Mr. Steele. The doctor will be here in a minute. I have to make him understand. I promised to die. You promised? Here's the doctor now. Yes, but I... You, you. Well, Mr. Steele... I tried to tell her that I... Call another doctor for this patient nurse. A doctor? You tell her. The earth... is made of glass. That if I don't die, you'll always find me. I know that. But... Tell her. Tell her the evil thing I have done so she'll let me die. Dr. West has pulsed. Emerson said it. I carry a malignity in me. When I die, I make square the eternal account. Make square... the eternal account. Well, Miss Adams, that's all there is. The Journal of Richard Thomas Steele. Doctor, I don't remember reading of that murder. Do you? No. No, I don't. Who was the man he met? Who was it he thought he'd killed? It was me. You, Dr. West? Just as he described it. First in the library, and in the drugstore, near my home, on buses, in the park. I couldn't imagine what was bothering him. But who did he kill? Really? I don't know. But I have an idea. Where's the package you found in his coat? Right here. Shall I open it? Yes, go on. The gloves and the knife. And they've never been used. Then he never killed anyone. No. Richard Steele never drove a knife into a living back. But in his way, he killed. In his mind, he killed. I guess old Emerson would say even for that kind of crime, there's compensation. Commit a crime, and the earth is made of glass. 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see how it goes. So that will conclude the news today. If you want to stick around, we'll do a little Q&A, I'll answer all your questions, the best of my abilities, and we'll go from there. Now let's get into a little Q&A and see what we have. And let's see. Brennan says, I think Ionet does not KYC. I think Ionet does KYC. I think they all do, actually. And we'll see. Let's see. Where was, there was a comment. Lord Smith says he sold it. He didn't click a random link. Interesting. So you're telling me this kid lied again? Or you got, not again. You're telling me that this kid totally lied? I'm going to keep pushing the spot, Lord Smith. You got to show me some information that this kid did sell it and is lying to every one of us. That'd be pretty awful. Let's see. Come on. How many of us didn't do it when we first got into it? Right? I gotta tell you, I click a lot of things that are pretty much not unknown. Yeah, they're all, I mean, like, if you're looking for like a whole new website or a whole new criteria of things to get in, especially like if, you know, if you're investigating new projects, there's going to be a lot of unknown things that you click. Like the things that I talked about with Aether and IO.net on those websites. I mean, you think that they're good, but who knows? Let's see. Here he says 14. Lord Smith says that's what the timeline says. I don't understand what that means. Do you think that you're cracking down a crypto-accelerated Bitcoin lightning payments? Sure. Again, it's just payments that they're cracking down on. I mean, it's not like they're saying you can't hold it. You can't do anything with it. But the whole point of, the whole point of some crypto is to actually make payments. And let's be honest, at some point, we have to make payments that are more than 3,000 euros, whatever that is, in the U.S. conversion. So I think it's an issue moving forward. But again, you can just get around and say, well, I've got, how hard is it to make two wallets or three wallets or four wallets? So yeah. Yeah. And then large sites get hacked. And then links can come from unknown sources and still be hacked. That's a great point.  And they put links in there. And then people click those links. Happens all the time. Heck, it happened with the SEC. So, I mean, I don't think it's a question of if you're going to get drained at some point. It's a question of when and how much.  It's just everybody should have, I think everybody should have the mentality of multi-year investor. Not like what happened in December, what happened, you know, February and what's happening right now or today. It's just to take a look as like one year, two years, and all the way up to four or five years and even 10 years down the road.  And the big thing is, of course, just following the rules, the number one rule that we have, the number one rule, don't invest more than you can afford to lose. Meaning that first rule is it's all gone. If you're in your brain, you're thinking yourself, I just put $10 on HiveMapper or whatever it was, right? I put $100 in Aether. It's gone. Yeah, I'm never going to see that again. That's just a great gamble. Then it's not a big deal. But if you're going to like an investment and going, okay, I'm going to put $1,000 into Bitcoin and I know it could be gone at some point because whatever. Not that it's going to go to zero, but hey, who knows? And if you think yourself, man, $1,000, that's going to be tough to lose. And if you say, okay, what about 500? Eh, not a big deal. What about $20? Okay, not a big deal. Then it's okay. And then you don't feel it. Like I made that mistake in 2017. I went all in, like towards the top.  Because I went too hard, too heavy. And then people will tell you, but you got to go hard. You got to lump sum and you got to put everything in there. Da, da, da. This is the time. No one knows. And everybody like that fair market value, I just showed you. Everybody thinks that Bitcoin is like a positive. It has to go to 100K. Nobody says that. Nobody says that. It makes sense, it will, but you know how it goes. If everybody thinks it's going to go here, the market likes to do the exact opposite of what you think is actually going to happen. Let's see. Come on, he's writing on EOS. See? I think it's still on the top 100, Beardy. I think we're still doing it. We're still making things happen. Yeah. De Milano says, Ben's chart helps keep me calm. Look at the big picture. Yeah, it's easy. Ben says, Google, you are true. Check tools and must. Yeah. And then one more thing about Ben's site. I just saw this. Let me show you. All right. If you go into crypto, and let's say you want look at whatever this is, I don't know what this is, track origin trail. It gives you all the charts for that particular crypto. It's pretty good. Wow. I don't believe that. Okay. Both markets support ban on origin trail. I don't know what this is. I'll look at that. I want to invest in this way. Interesting. Let's do something else. EOS. Yeah, there we go. I guess we'll do the same thing. Short term bubble risk. That's not going to happen on EOS. No, it is. Let me see. Yeah, look at that. Pretty cool. How about this? Let's do Solana. Wow, super, super overheated. Anyhow, I just thought it was cool how they can, there's a ton of, I mean, what the heck is all this stuff? I don't know. That's all that stuff. That's crazy. Good website. Can't show you everything. Works pretty well.  Everybody's favorite. And if you're stressed out like I usually am, just use coin ledger. And there's a link in the description. Of course, that's right there. For the time that you open it up, the time you get done, it takes me like 30 minutes and off the CPA goes. Usually I try to get it done before April 15th, because, you know, corporations or something like that. But I'm still going to ask for extension. I didn't know this, but when you ask for an extension, it actually reduces your risk of audits. Something to think about. For the JEE, what's the website? For Ben, it's into the cryptoverse. Link in the description. Make sure you use those. There's an affiliate, they're all affiliate links down there, everybody.  And I will not support him that don't use the affiliate links. Go right to into the cryptoverse or write to coin ledger and sign up, but you don't get that 10% off. So whatever you want to do. Ah, Dan's pool. Hey, look at that. Very slick. See, Ben's got Ben's chair. Someone has Ben's hairline or Ben's haircut. And now I finally am making it. I finally feel like I've made it. Someone made an account called Dan's pool. Ah, this is a great day. On that note, thanks, everybody. That's all I need to do today. Oh, that's good. J2Days says, who doesn't like 10%? Yeah, who doesn't like 10% off? Oh, Nicky.  Yeah, let's see. Gas fees is one of the best trading coins is called Elon Vitalik Pigs. No one can claim crypto has not gotten more serious in its last bull market. Yeah. There's also some very racist tokens being produced as far as meme coins on Solana. Very bad stuff. I will not cover that, but I saw it. I was like, holy smokes. That's not what this industry is supposed to be. That's why I'm not a big fan of any meme coins.  Doge, I love that the community is great because they're not. What's great about Dogecoin and that community is you'll have people, if I post anything on Solana, the first thing people that hate Solana say, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fast, but I mean, how many times has it gone down? And then, of course, it's a VC coin. And then, of course, it's going to fail. And then, of course, if I post anything about Cardano, people will say, yeah, I mean, it's safe, but I mean, who's really using it? Where's the actual adoption? And is it a stable coin? Because it seems like one. We're just kind of funny. And if I post on something else, you understand what I'm saying here. But with Dogecoin, if I post anything on Dogecoin, everybody's like, I like that. That's a good one. That's cute. No one has a problem with it. It's amazing. It's like the only one like, it's like meme coin neutral. No one cares. Or no one has any problems. It's good. What about Arbitrum? Is it a good long term hold? Well, I mean, we just took a look at Aether and their decentralized infrastructure network and AI and using that to essentially fuel the AI computational power that they're going to need in a massive amount of GPUs for these NVIDIA A100s, H100s. I always forget the term. But they're using Arbitrum. And of course, that's a layer two for Ethereum. And right now, if you take a look at like the, there's a website called L2 fees. Yeah, look at that. Let me show you. L2fees.info. And you see that for like the fees himself after that Denkun upgrade, Arbitrum is now less than a penny, which is pretty good because before it was like, I want to say like 27 cents, 34, which isn't awful. But I mean, Solana was crushing it because the fees were like nothing. And now it's the same thing with Arbitrum. The problem is getting everything off of layer one solutions. I don't know why people launched their project on Ethereum. So I don't get it. Like why launch on layer one? Launch on layer two, because everybody wants you to do. Yeah. Paints is, it depends on incentives, bad actors create a situation where it's profitable, people will just go along with it. Sure. So that's what meme coins are. Charlie Brown says ICP already has a graphical user interface for AI. That's great. Are they using in a deep pin way? Or how's that working? I own ICP. It's one of the 80 different tokens that I have. Hopefully it works out. But I'm telling you, I'm telling you, like this deep pin AI narrative, the ones I just talked about were two. And there's other ones that are out there, like game in, that's another one, which actually is working with, I think they're working with AI.net. Matter of fact, it's one of those two. And there's other ones coming up. And then of course, Akash network and who knows what else is in the background, layer twos on Bitcoin. So if you think like, okay, this one's gonna be good because it's got as a first mover advantage, it's great. And I think like all those nodes that were being bought up like crazy, that's good. And that's fantastic in the long run. I just don't think in the short run in the next four to six months, that's the big play. I think the bigger play would be the token as it starts to appreciate and go from there. The nodes, it all depends on the amount of demand that's coming in for companies and individuals wanting to use these GPUs for computational power to run and make their AI programs work. Polygon has disappeared from this. Yeah, it's true. It's there. Thank you. This day is going great so far. First, I had somebody who has dance pool, then somebody says, Rob, you had Botox. Damn it. Crushing it today. I should go buy a lottery ticket. No, it just shaved, which for some reason makes me look like a kid almost. When I have the white beard, of course, look a little bit more distinguished, but it's getting hot around here. So yeah, let's see. But I don't know, has been designed to be good for all in the long term, so long as centralized and good for short-term profits. Yeah. I mean, sure. I don't know. Mega millions over one billion next drawing. That's why I should get it. Yeah, AI from a younger Rob. I mean, the sides are still gray. So let's see. That's it. I think that's it. I think we're good. No more questions. I did my job. All right, everybody. So again, I'll do that deep dive on Aether and that'll come out. I mean, everything is pretty much written up. The script is there. Just got to record or finish us some things and then we'll put that out. But that's a pretty good project. io.net is a good project. Another one coming out that it looks really good is it's another AI play, but it's secured by the Bitcoin network. And that one's called BrainMaker, R-I-N Maker. And then the coin, C-O-I-N. And that'll be later, but that one also looks like a pretty good play.  I'd like to get everybody involved in. It's a Web3 game. I don't know if you've heard this game. It's one of the biggest games that's been around for the last, I don't know, many millennia, but Mahjong, M-A-H-J-O-N-G, they're going to do a game Web3 version and you allow to wager. Anyhow, that's like a month down the road. That's it for today, everybody. So look, like this video, give it a thumbs up, consider subscribing. Everything we talk about is time sensitive. And that we'll do it for today. Thanks so much, everybody. Enjoy the rest of your Saturday. I'll see you on the next one. Adios.


I mean, the first-hand jumps off to the quarterback. Just like you said, I mean, coming from, you know, his rookie year, the improvements that he's made, the strides that he's made, he's playing like one of the best quarterbacks in the league. I mean, they're operating at a very high level. Think they got like 35 explosive plays in five games. So it's gonna be a huge chance for us this week, you know, eliminating the deep ball, eliminating those big plays, but we have a big chance for us there. The best team in the league right now, if you look at all the power ratings and all that stuff. So a huge chance for us on Monday night. Yeah. I'm just excited.  He's a really smart linebacker. When he played here, he was usually leading the team and Tak was going out there flying around, making plays. So he'll be practicing this week, so we're excited to have him on the team. Of course. One of the best teams in the league right now, Monday night football, home game, coming off a big win in Jacksonville. I mean, it's not going to be hard to, you know, to get excited for this game. You know, it's going to be a really good atmosphere. I'm expecting a live crowd, but I'm also expecting a lot of Bill's fans. I remember a couple of years ago, the Bill's, they really traveled. So it should be a loud game on both sides when both offices out there. So it should be a fun game. Not at all. We're going to prepare how we always are going to prepare, but we obviously understand the challenges ahead of us with explosive offense and a really great defense. So us as a defense, we're looking at, like, we got to play better than their defense. We got to eliminate the big plays. We got to contain number 17, the quarterback, because he's going to be out there scrambling, making plays. He's seen and heard of the guy last week. So huge challenge for us and we're excited. It's going to be Monday night football, so we're ready to go. You guys, do you guys need that kind of everything? Absolutely. I think when you look at the way their team is built and how the quarterback plays the game, he's going to make some really great throws. But every once in a while, you're going to see he make a throw where we had to take advantage of those. And I think that's one thing we're going to have to do.  Don't let him get the big play. And hopefully the quarterback gets a little impatient in those ones. So if we can get some turnovers, I think that would be the biggest thing for us.  Get the offense rolling. Score some points. How about Derek last year? What was it like on the sidelines? What was the energy like in the standings? Play actually didn't count. Right. No, it was explosive.  You seen Derry and Bayes run on the field talking trash. Miss his energy. But I mean, that's what it is, man. I mean, Derek Henry, he never surprises us.  He's a physical guy. Hopefully we can get some more highlights this Monday night as well. Right. Yeah, I think if you're talking about most improved player in the league over the last three years, it's definitely him. He's playing at the MVP level right now. He has their offense operating at a really high level. Best team in the league right now. So like I said, it's going to be a huge chance for us. He has a physical skill set that he can make every single throw, but he can also run you over and get first down. So super excited to play a quarterback like him the way he's playing right now. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's prime time.  And it's a big matchup. You know, you got the Buffalo Bills, one of the hottest teams in the league right now. So we're super excited to be able to host this game and hopefully we can go out there and put a good product out there.


Daily Tech News show is made possible by its listeners thanks to all of you including Miss Music teacher James C Smith and Miranda Janell coming up on DTNS Netflix ups the fight against password sharing why Gen Z doesn't use Google and Will Smith is here to talk about the democratization of broadcast This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday July 19th 2022 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio Redwood I'm Sarah Lane in Salt Lake City. I'm Scott Johnson and I'm the show's producer Roger Chang joining us the co-host of the Brad and Will made a tech pod Podcast is the will in that podcast name Will Smith. Welcome. Hey Tom. Thanks for having me. Thanks for being here, man I can't wait to talk about sort of the overview of how much easier it is to do broadcasting than when all of us started this It turns out it's a little bit of a different vibe now like like everything that used to be expensive is cheap and now it's easy So here we are, which is good. It's good for everyone, but let's start with a few tech things. You should know Samsung mobiles unofficial rather official Twitter account appears to have confirmed the date of its next unpacked event as August 10th 2022 it was in a series of cryptic images Including letters numbers and symbols and a variety of tweets colored circles that together can all be decoded as 08 1022 as in August 10th 2022 get it a recent leak from Evan Blass a ka of leaks on Twitter suggested the same date Current rumors include an announcement of a galaxy fold 4 and a galaxy flip 4 plus the galaxy watch 5 and watch 5 pro I Was thinking it was going to be oh you 812 but I was wrong Delaware chance record judge Kathleen McCormick has set the trial between Twitter and Elon Musk to take place for five days in October Twitter is suing Elon Musk for breach of contract in relation to his agreement to purchase Twitter Twitter It asked for a date in September Musk requested a date in April and the judge said neither of you get it We're doing October Qualcomm announced an updated wearables platform called snapdragon w5 plus and w5 Replacing the current snapdragon wear branding the 4 nanometer w5 plus chip is made for premium smartwatches With the w5 meant for devices like smartwatches for kids fitness trackers and some enterprise devices the platform's hybrid Architecture is the same as in snapdragon wear 3100 and 4100 trips although qualcomm says that 50% longer battery life and double the performance and a 30% reduction in Size is part of why w5 plus will be better with multi-day battery life in some cases The oppo watch 3 will be the first with the w5 in august and the first wear Oh s3 watch will be mobbies tick tock watch running the w5 plus later this atom Google announced it will let developers of non gaming apps on the play store in the European economic area That's the EU plus a few other countries use alternative billing systems for in-game transactions Developers will be charged 3% less than they would if they use Google's own system Which is a little bit different than what they're doing in Korea where they give you a 4% discount Google said they made the change in advance of the digital markets act Which is probably going to go into effect later this year in the EU in other Google payments news Google began rolling out Google Wallet on Android in 39 countries saying it will be available to all users over the next Few days in most countries wallet is going to roll out as an update to Google pay But if you're in the US or Singapore Google pay is sticking around as a way to send peer-to-peer payments Slack announced its first price increase since launching in 2014 Effectively September 1st monthly pro plans increase 75 cents per month to 875 per user While those paid annually increase 58 cents to 725 per user prices remain the same for teams on a business plus Plan and enterprise customers as well the free tier also get some changes shifting to saving It's saving the last 90 days of messages and uploads rather than showing the last 10,000 messages and 5 gigs of uploads So they would like you to pay if possible. All right, let's talk about something that matters Let's do it. We have talked about matter before that's the project that's supposed to make it easier for smart home Devices to interoperate no matter who makes them one element of matter is a low-powered networking protocol called thread So Tom, let us know a little more. Shall we what is thread indeed? I've been preparing an episode of know a little more on this thread is a mesh type network And the oversimplified explanation is that each device on a mesh network can talk directly to every other device No matter who made them so essentially each thread device you get will be an access point So it can pass along information and you don't need a special hub. That's the big difference between it and say Zigbee Thread can't handle a lot of data though and its range is about the same as Zigbee 200 to 300 meters That's why matter also supports Wi-Fi if you need high data or Bluetooth low energy for lower rate for longer ranges But the mesh network means that thread works great for sensors That are near to other sensors or other devices that are in the thread network that can pass along the data threads faster more reliable a little more secure and more interoperable than previous protocols, but It cannot connect to the internet on its own So you don't need a hub But if you want cloud control or if you want to be able to talk to non-thread devices in some cases You do need something that they call a border router something that can talk to the thread devices But also talk to the internet Which brings us to the news today thread 1.3.0 just dropped which lets any thread device work with any thread order router Don't let the word router confuse you. It does not have to be a traditional internet router Although it can be thread is backwards compatible So a current thread device can upgrade to thread 1.3.0 for the increased capability and Compatibility the verge notes that the following devices will support thread 1.3.0 with a software update the nest hub Mac smart display and the second gen of the same the nest Wi-Fi mesh router Apple TV 4k Apple HomePod mini Amazon Echo 4th Gen smart speaker Nano leaf shapes elements and lines LED light panels and the Wi-Fi six versions of Euro mesh routers or newer If you have more than one of those you're gonna want to pick one to control the network Otherwise the mesh won't work as well because you'd have competing mesh networks You'd have separate ones you want them all in the same so you get the meshiness of it expect more manufacturers though to join as devices just need an always-on power source and an internet connection to become one of those border routers this unifies threads so all thread devices can now work with each other thread 1.3.0 also requires devices to use TCP for firmware updates so you can update your device all at one time You can update them all at once and update them remotely You won't have to stand near it with your phone anymore, which you had to do with some of them We will have a full episode describing thread coming on know a little more comm this Thursday But will how are you feeling about matter and thread? So I was a little bit worried about it because you know, it's the old XKCD right is like you have a standard So it's like this the standard kind of sucks We should add another standard and then next you know, there's another standard But talking to people who work in the industry Paul Schautson from home assistant Some other folks that are that are close to this are pretty excited about it and think that it solves a lot of The problems with ZigBee and Z-Wave and the existing kind of low-level infrastructure Protocols that are around now Scott you're excited Yes, because for years now you've been telling me about mesh networks and I say that seriously for at least two three years Tom has tried to help me understand why a mesh network might be cool And I feel like we're finally getting there where it would matter to me So if this is it great, but I still worry about that next best standard thing and you know a year from now You telling me that oh forget all that now. There's this.  Yeah, yeah Well, you might have heard that Netflix is expanding its test of detecting out-of-home use on accounts people sharing their accounts with others and The company is asking people to pay more for those out-of-home users in Argentina El Salvador Guatemala Honduras and the Dominican Republic Users may be prompted to add a home and pay two dollars and ninety nine cents per month extra It's one dollar and seventeen cents in Argentina if Netflix can detect that a user is Outside of the house and it's using the service for more than two weeks So it's kind of like you're not on vacation you're somebody else Users can add one extra home to a basic account two to a standard account and three to a premium account This is different than the test going on in Costa Rica Peru in Colombia Where users are asked to add up to two extra sub accounts if users outside of home are detected So let's explain how they differ Scott. All right on its support page This is what Netflix says you can watch Netflix on your laptop your mobile device while traveling Both those things are fine, but Netflix specifically says if you're watching on a TV You can watch up to two weeks at a location outside your home And this is allowed once per location per year Now kind of interestingly the verge reported the support page for this in Honduras originally read After that time meaning two weeks the TV will be blocked unless you add the extra home However, that language seems to have been removed Hmm.  Yeah? Netflix actually gave us some details this time not not full details But it says it's using information such as IP addresses device IDs and account activity So using a VPN might trip this Netflix in fact gives troubleshooting tips for users who may get the add a home prompt when they're at home in their primary location Among the tips are make sure that the device is not connected to a VPN proxy or any unblocker service It also recommends connecting to the same internet connection as other devices in the home Unblocker service coming shortly before Netflix adds adds to their service. How convenient is that? But yeah, so they're saying look we're looking at VPN And if you're running a VPN and that VPN IP address says you're in San Jose But you're really in Los Angeles that that that could trip this the system The the the whole Language was removed that said and if you don't if you do this for more than two weeks, you're gonna get cut off I Think it's still implied that they would cut you off or else they wouldn't even bother with any of this I have to assume that Netflix wants to tread carefully They don't want to lose a bunch of users had kind of a rocky quarter as of late So I wonder when that language comes back and and what it'll say yeah Because in the Costa Rica Peru Columbia one that you mentioned where they just asked you to add an account not add a home They aren't cutting you off. It really is just to like hey, you should pay please do good faith Yeah, because they know that that'll get a number of people to do it Which is better than than nobody doing it right because they bring an extra revenue So it felt like it was a little more aggressive for them to say no We're gonna do hard enforce this and maybe they're backed off on the hard enforcement Yeah, it seems to me that I'm kind of with Sarah. I'm kind of scratching my head like if you're gonna say That you're gonna turn you turn your account off But then pull that language but not but not loosen the rules or not Address it in some other way that just tells me they're gonna they're gonna kill it So I have this feeling and I don't know I'm not in some of the affected areas that we're talking about today But I have this feeling that I need to like get ahold of all my kids talk to my mom talk to my sisters and just make sure Hey, who's using who's what right now because I don't know I have no idea I don't remember who who maybe is sharing a thing or maybe I'm sharing somebody something I don't think so because I pay for Netflix, but it's all a little bit confusing So I don't know as long as I get people plenty of notice and say yeah It looks like if this is happening over here and communicate this stuff. Well, it'll probably be okay It's an interesting choice to go after this really hard now too when they're also seeing like problems with users on the content side Like their their content isn't resonating now there's a lot of like industry articles in the Hollywood press about this on the regular about how you know, they keep launching new shows and they're not seeing any pickup their movies aren't landing and You know Like to go after users for sharing accounts at this point feels a little bit tone-deaf when the content's not resonating It seems like it's an easy decision to just turn the key Well, I would characterize this as going easy right because they're starting in limited countries there They pulled back from the block thing I feel like Netflix is trying to just see at what kind of effect this is going to have But the reason they're doing it is because they aren't making the amount of money that they need to make off the existing Userbase and they've reached saturation in a lot of markets like the United States So they their only way to make more money is to go after that incremental revenue because they just can't add more people And that explains why they're doing it at all like you say though. Is it going to risk? Driving people away. Well, it would be driving people away who don't pay So maybe that doesn't matter. I don't know might be fine. Yeah But Netflix also added into the breach as one of its mobile games included with your Netflix subscription into the breach one best strategy game at The 2018 game awards. There's a bit of new content in the Netflix version And it has been adapted for mobile if you're a Netflix subscriber You can just access it with your Netflix account no additional charge. That's an excellent game It's actually a really good get for them. I don't know if it's a timed thing or what the deal is and it's not a brand new game So probably have some levity there, but they what they can do with it or I have to keep I heard leverage is what I meant But I wanted at least mentioned that they had another hit on their hands that I don't know if enough people know about and that game's called pointy came out last year or last month rather and Was by the downwell developer. It is a fantastic Vertically held phone game that doesn't have any microtransactions other than what you pay for Netflix Just wanted to slide that in great recommendation great came and you can play it outside your home Our job here on DTNS is to help you understand tech better and there was a story last week I think worth bringing up last week Google senior vice president Prabhakar Raghavan said at the fortune brainstorm tech conference quote in our studies something like almost 40% of young people when they're looking for a Place for lunch. Don't go to Google Maps or search. They go to tiktok or Instagram This is some internal data from surveys Google did of people between the ages of 18 and 24 Raghavan said younger people are generally interested in more visually rich forms of search and discovery Sarah this shocked you it did okay, so this morning. I read this. I was like what how does that even work on tiktok? Maybe there's some like features of tiktok. I don't know about so I typed in lunch near me That didn't work because tiktoks like what that's you know I just got like weird videos where that was in a caption So I was like, okay. Hmm. Let me pick a town near me. Sebastopol, California Which is like one town over from where I am lunch in Sebastopol And I did get some hits and there were certain places a few of them I've actually been to but let's just say I was looking for I don't know a ramen place kind of thing I can watch the tiktok. Sure. There's you know, maybe a person narrating it's very tiktokky You see like beautiful You know bowls of noodles and you know, maybe some appetizers and it's like yeah in the You know in the data that you can see It does say Sebastopol it's been tagged there But there's nowhere to click on it to see a map. You don't get directions You don't have user reviews and I know I sound like an old but I'm like, okay I can see sort of starting here to say I just like to get a sense of the place and then going to google to get more information about how actually to get there And what their hours are and if they're open right now and maybe I can make a reservation I don't know how younger people are using tiktok and to a lesser extent instagram for this kind of information I mean part of it is we you and I I'm with you on this you and I expect Functional transfer of information to action right we want to go search for restaurants near me Look at some quick reviews get directions drive or call an order or whatever like we want those steps And I think if I'm to guess and I know tom's going to tell us all about this But if I had to guess if you're 12 years old to 18 years old as an example You're using it to search for stuff you're into right down that really has no applicable Sort of daily need. It's just I oh I heard about this band.  I'm going to find it here if I search for it I think those are the things they're looking for they're not trying to find the closest home depot yet When they get there, they're going to need the tools we have but I think right now the stuff They're wanting the things they're looking for or just aren't practical in terms of What you and I are looking for at the moment, but I mean in the case of What raghavan said, you know and he used Looking for a place for lunch That all that stuff does matter because we you're not going to fly across the country to go get lunch We are guilty of gen x think right now and how could we not be that's who we are but we think top down We think oh google is the search engine where you find information I think if I have this right and please gen z folks in the audience. Let me know if I got even close It's you are using tiktok and instagram you find out about places and you see them and you're like that place looks cool That place is cool. I'm going to save that for later share that with a friend. Do you want to go there? Once you've decided then you might use google to like oh is it open and where is it? But but it's the last part of the step It's not you don't go to google to be like oh find a place to eat It's it's I don't know will you but you brought up the word experiential when we were talking about this earlier today Well, I mean, I think that's it It's it's like you you watch the you watch the the video of the person making the taco salad on the countertop And you're like i'm never going to do that. It's novelty. It's interesting I watch food videos all the time to find stuff that I don't know about you know Whether it's you know just Detroit style pizza with the hard cheese crust on the edge or whatever and then But i'm probably not going to use tiktok as an old to go out and and and find the the pizza place near me I'm gonna i'm going to look for the i'm going to learn about the thing On tiktok and then i'm going to go search for it on google like any decent human being Or duck duck go or brave or wherever you're at We don't really get the idea of saying let's see what the vibe is like And tiktok feels maybe a little bit more alive than the photos that you're going to see On a google search or just on the internet in general or maybe the restaurants own website I get that it just seems like it's a first step sure But perhaps an unnecessary one I did a little math while we were here and not math but a little research my son Who's a gen z and his girlfriend also gen z I just asked them while we were talking Hey, have either of you used tiktok as a search engine and their replies came back My son says is that even possible? I do not he says his girlfriend says honestly I think I do every once in a while, but only if i'm looking for specific tiktoks Sometimes I will see she's going on here. I'll summation it here But she says basically if there's a if there's a restaurant or an account that does restaurants here in sell like city She'll follow that account and go to that account often to hear what they're talking about No, we're gonna try that hot dog place next time we're here But they don't need to go look up a bunch of other stuff until the day they go Right. So it's kind of like piecemeal. It's like well, I'll watch this and get inspired But then I'll hop over to my maps app or my google search or whatever to get a little more if I need it Otherwise, I'm just here to be entertained get the info and get out.  It may be it may be Yeah, there may be a cultural bias that I that I'm living inside of for sure Uh, it's special guest week here on dts all week long if you like what you're hearing Spread the word tell your friends to watch or listen to daily tech news show all this week because we got great people on the show like will Of course there announced it's integrating nvidia's broadcast audio and video features into its iq and elgato software So you don't need a separate app anymore to do noise removal or add virtual backgrounds or all that stuff As long as you have a compatible headset microphone or camera and an nvidia rtx GPU This kind of news along with things like stream deck and roadcaster are making it easier than ever to broadcast from wherever you want 15 years ago This kind of broadcast tech was limited to niche or traditional media outfits that could afford the technology and the server fees for the broadband Now people in homemade studios like the ones we're in can compete for the same audiences as traditional broadcasters Will you've been following this trend and participating in it for years? What do you think is behind this democratization of broadcast tech? Well, so tom there's a bunch of different stuff right one is one is that you know Broadband is accessible now and most people can get decent broadband where they are But I think the the bigger thing is that phones have brought down the cost of A bazillion different kinds of chips with its wi-fi and bluetooth and networking stuff whether it's audio 80c's I guess audio to digital converters Cameras things like that are all cheaper because we're shipping billions of them every year in phones You know in the old days when you used to leave the house I did these I did a talk about how you could tell the future by looking at the cost At what apple and samsung and google were putting in their their phones for the next year And if you look at like 2007 the cost of an accelerometer chip, which is just what what you know tells you if the phone's moving Nothing else They were like 23 cents a pop a year later When the iphone 3g came out with an accelerometer in it I think the the cost of that chip went down to a tenth of a cent And then two years after that it was just integrated in the soc and became essentially free for anybody who was using an arm soc um So so like that stuff has combined to make the thing that that you know We were building a future you guys were building a cnet or even when we started whiskey in the late 2000 late 2000s I guess we spent 150 grand setting up a studio with a couple of cameras a couple of three cameras An audio board a video switcher And and stuff like that and now you have a computer You spend a couple hundred bucks on a camera a couple hundred bucks on a microphone You're pretty much and and some lights you're pretty much there It turns out I just I packed it all up in the car and came on vacation with it earlier this month So it's it's a little bit more accessible. It's a little bit easier to get to uh than it was in the past and and um The software side is also incredibly relevant to that too, you know In 2000 2000 in 2000 there was no software to stream with right you bought Wirecast or something that was phenomenally expensive and bespoke and now you just downloaded a copy of obs which is an open source Program that's been in development now for what 12 years. I think I think I think they started um, I think uh, jim posted the first version of obs in like 2012 When twitch was new so yeah, he he a guy some guy wanted to stream some starcraft Didn't want to pay the 50 bucks for whatever the software was at the time And and wrote his own version of a video compositor and and now it's this thing that millions of people around the world use Uh and probably including us. I don't know what you all what you're all's backing looks like. I totally do. Yeah And then the cool thing about obs in that particular case is Those tools are not only incredibly simple, but given its open source nature and how long it's been bouncing around Uh Over these years, it's easily the most stable version But there are also forks of it that stream labs use as and they have got their own development path And there are others that are doing it as well But I don't think any of us predicted that this you know at the time janky little video game streaming software In the earliest days of twitch and the waning days of justin tv was going to end up being such a standard for Way more than that people who aren't gamers at all people on max people all over the place using obs in ways that Basically give them a broadcast center in there at their fingertips and And they're getting it for free, which is you know, which is awesome. And it's still the best thing out there. I love it Yeah, it's it's um, it's interesting because we saw this accelerate kind of when the pandemic started everybody started working from home And you know, they'd been this cottage industry for streamers and people who wanted to You know make videos for youtube and stuff like that for a long time But then all of a sudden we're all stuck at home. We're all you know turning our extra bedroom or whatever into an office And you know, everybody's buying microphones everybody's buying You know good microphones and and good lights and all of that kind of streamer cottage industry hardware Became a really important part of like the business world too. So it's it's been it's been a really it's been fascinating to watch And it's it's really exciting From a content creator perspective because it means that the bar for entry is so much lower than it was 10 15 20 years ago Yeah, for sure and the more the more that you see this stuff come out of Major makers of software hardware and whatever the the the more at home this stuff will be I do worry a little bit That now it's getting wrapped up in Some gardens a little bit and vidya's garden in particular here They control a lot of this stuff now and almost all of it hinges on their rtx GPUs Which for a while there were impossible to get I know that's gotten better lately Um, but there's some issues with all of that, you know, I'd love this to be a little bit more Everybody can use it no matter where they're at what they're doing and what they're using Um, but I you know that writing was on the wall. This stuff becomes more popular Obviously people are going to try to monetize it the best they can and I like nvidia but You know some of some of that pioneering tradition that that we all entered in in the in the mid delayed odds is Just a little bit off when it comes to you know now everybody now the corporations have their hands in it And I guess that's the story of everything.  Where do you think this is going next will? Oh, that's that's fascinating. I think it's I think more than getting deeper in into these into this area like I don't microphones have been You know your your your electro voice microphone has been the same price for the last 40 years at this point Right, so I don't think microphones are going to get cheaper But the thing that is going to start happening is we're going to see software eat more of those high-end markets So it's the same thing that happened with with dslr's Endpointing shoots have all been you know those those markets have been Shrunk down to the point that only you know professionals buy dslr's at this point and enthusiasts Who want the want all the features of the camera because everybody else is just you know using their iphone and The software is good enough We're seeing the same thing happen with speakers with audio and like the the You know the google voice of the home pod speakers versus sonos and stuff like that So I I think I think the the thing is the thing to ask yourself is what markets can we add software and smarts to that will See the same kind of enhancement that content creation and photography and stuff like that have and and I think we're I mean, it's impossible to say at this point, but um I'm I'm always looking to see what's next. Yeah. Yeah, me too fascinating stuff All right. Let's let's see what content has kicked out today, sarah Well, there's an adventure game called stray That became available today has you solving puzzles you navigate an urban environment You're pitted against powerful enemies sounds pretty you know like an adventure game But you're also playing as a cat and you're seeing everything from the cat's perspective And you're doing things that cats do now if the cat part isn't enough You have also got a drone friend named b12 that they're helping you solve the mysteries of the world Humans are sort of not around. It's all robots. The cat wants to know where the humans went The cat never talks because everybody knows that cats don't talk only in the movies Along with lots of those adventures Uh stray will appeal to cat people because you can scratch up carpets and couches when you're not actually You know trying to stay alive. You can ruin in progress board games That's the thing cats like to do you can lie down for a snooze if you like Stray launches today on ps4 ps5 and steam. I know roger is world's biggest cat person.  What's the plan? Even the course you are you have a steam account. You're getting it. I have a steam account I'll just load up on some anti histamines and I'll be There you go. Yeah Is if I I asked some gamer friends, hey, you know Uh anybody excited about this and a couple of them were like, I don't know that seems a little gimmicky And then everyone else was like cat game. Yes. Can't wait. I I will say when I first heard about it a while back I was like But the more I hear about the more interesting it is because it does kind of take you and shift you out of the Very human-centric perspective that most games Offer you whether it's you know, like a shooter or or sports game or anything Yeah, it's a real get for playstation owners as well. This is an exclusive to them at least for now and uh on the computer side We got it on steam I think that what makes these games interesting is that they're trying new things and mashing things up that we don't think about So a cat Uh trying to figure out what to do in the world. Meanwhile, where are the humans? Why are we living in this cyberpunk? Strangeness, what's with all the robots? Like These all these all speak to me with the exception of the cat part because I don't really like cats that much But that's okay. It's a video game. I don't like golf either and I play golf video games. So I'm kind of all in on this I'm going to try it out this week Well, go ahead will oh, I loaded it up this morning for about 10 minutes And I got to the part where it said press circle to meow And then next thing I do I've got an achievement for meowing a hundred times. So Uh, I'm in it's good 10 out of 10 game of the year as far as I'm I was going to say I'm not sure if you're a real cat person or not But you certainly are when you are a cat Who was inside a game? Will Smith, thank you so much for being a great guest with us today cat person or not We'd love to have you back soon. Let folks know where they can keep up with what else you do So you can find me on twitter at will smith Every week I do a podcast with my friend brad shoemaker called brand made a tech pod where we Break down a single topic generally. So I was out last week because I had the covid So we had a special guest on last week's episode From jpl to come in and talk about what it's like to operate camera cameras on mars He was the the camera operator on the curiosity rover for the hazard cams for a long time And it's gotten a promotion since we recorded that episode But um, but yeah, we break down a single topic and kind of dig deep into it We're going to do some matter and thread stuff in the next several weeks And then we also do the phosphod every other week which we is a deep dive interview with a Maintainer or creator of a of a large open source projects. We've talked to the folks who maintain vlc Blender is coming up soon. OBS a home assistant.  It's a it's a small mandate. So We have a lot of fun with both of those and you can find them at At tech pod content at town Very cool scott johnson good to have you today throwing everybody a curveball it's tuesday not wednesday But uh, it was great to see you let folks know what What else you do? I don't want it to be weird But I did it because I knew will is going to be here today and we never seem to get on the same show So, uh, I knew I could make this happen But anyway, hey tuesday listeners if you want to check out more of my stuff You can find a stack of podcasts a whole bunch of artwork and other things over at frogpants.com In particular check out the podcast and listen to one of my gaining shows You might like core a lot for example Or we talk a lot about the stuff that got mentioned today So go check all that out. That's at frogpants.com and i'm on twitter at scott johnson We also have a brand new boss to thank matthew just started backing us on patreon. Thank you matthew Matthew matthew getting the spotlight. Well done matthew a hero a hero to all There's a longer version of the show called good day internet aka gdi. It's available at patreon.com Slash d t n s we roll right into it when we wrap up this show But this show is live monday through friday 4 p.m. Eastern 200 utc join us if you can we'd love to have you find out more at daily tech new show dot com slash live We're back tomorrow with quinn nelson from snazzy labs discussing whether the m1 powered mac book is the best gaming laptop on the market Talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frogpants.com Diamond club hopes you have enjoyed this brover


Live from San Juan, Puerto Rico, it's theCUBE. Covering Blockchain Unbound. Brought to you by Blockchain Industries. Hello everyone, welcome back to theCUBE. This is our exclusive coverage in Puerto Rico for Blockchain Unbound. This is a conference where the local entrepreneurs, industry legends, financiers, funders, everyone's coming together from Blockchain Cryptocurrency and a decentralized web, a lot of great use cases. We have the politicians as well here in Puerto Rico kind of enticing the community to do more here. I'm John Furrier with theCUBE. We have Luis Macaz, who's the CEO of Grain Chain, a startup out of Texas doing very interesting things with Blockchain and a real good example of really the value proposition of reducing steps it takes to get something done, creating value and then sharing that value. Luis, good to see you, thanks for coming on. Thank you for inviting me. So we talked yesterday last year off camera about what you're doing on, but I want you to take a minute to explain to folks what you guys do and why Blockchain, what's the difference? Sure, so I would say about five years ago we got approached by a large scale farmer and he asked us to find a solution to be able to modernize his business. You know, as we all know, the farming industry is not as technical as a lot of the other industries. So we went out in search and we just couldn't find a solution. So we built the appropriate solution to take a seed from the ground and take it all the way to the commodities market in an instant instead of three to four weeks. And so basically what we do is we join the buyer, the buyers of the actual soft commodities and we allow them to create smart contracts with individual farmers. This ensures not only the payments of the farmer but it allows the farmer to get paid instantly. What does it do really for our overall industry? Our buyers gain instant custody of the actual grain, the second it crosses the scale. That changes everybody's life dramatically. So middleman get kind of destructive, but before we get into that, I want to dig into this, this is important because I'm from California, so huge farming thing there, cultural thing going on there. What's your background? How did you get here? I mean, how long you've been doing it? Sure. And when did you jump on the Blockchain as an opportunity? So we've been developing software for the last 17 years. We've done it for the insurance industry and for the government, for our small state governments. And we live, we're in Texas and we have a personal relationship with many farmers. We saw a problem and we needed to solve it. In the last year, we went ahead and started applying the Blockchain to the process. And the Blockchain is a perfect form. When you have two parties who really, really don't need to trust each other and need to trust each other, with a distributed ledger, you've got a perfect scenario. If we're able to write a contract and a thousand people be able to verify that contract and we're able to transfer money from one person to another without the two parties being involved, we've got a perfect scenario. Yeah, that's awesome. And that's where Blockchain really, really affects the agriculture industry and our farmers. You know, I said on theCUBE this morning, we were talking about it last, I was talking about it last night with some folks, the killer app for Blockchain is money. Yes. So the common thread in all this is money. Just like the first computer in the TCPIP revolution, it was email. Yes. Killer app. It's kind of, we hate email now, but the point is you're in the money transaction business, but there's a supply chain involved. This is where it gets interesting. This is where I think you're onto something really nice here because you're essentially creating a better contractual environment between buyer and seller, but the product still needs to move to the market. Yes. This is where you're innovating. Can you talk up specifically about how you're disrupting that piece? Sure. So basically what we're able to do is not only allow farmers to involve themselves in the forward and futures market, also the spot market within the actual system. So it integrates with actual trading applications, but it also integrates with their futures market and forward market contractors. So we're taking a group of people who are not very technical and we're giving them that ability to do what the big brokers do in the overall industry. So give an example, just give like a run of the mill example use case. Sure. One of our farmers who's got five million pounds of corn does a forward market with a buyer. The second he crosses the scale, it'll settle that contract instantly and then it'll actually notify him, say it's in your best interest to go ahead and close the other three million pounds because the price just spiked. He hits one button. He makes more money than he's ever made on any contract he's done in the past. And that's because what happened? What was the old way? What was the old way? The old way is he pretty much put it in the silo and sent the papers to an accounting office three, four weeks later he figured out how much he had. Then he gave it to a broker to be able to look at the actual inventory. They put it up on the market and they make the actual commission. So they make the spread. Yeah. They increase, they mark it up. Exactly. They take the spread down and then they still got to send paperwork back to the guy and say, this is what we sold. Exactly. And then eventually get paid. This pretty much turns that entire process into an instant action. This is a game changer. This is basically taking all those steps and a lot of potential miscues could happen in that process. Absolutely. Time wasted, errors. And you know, I don't want to put any bad actors but it also eliminates the bad actors out of the scenario. Our governance system actually integrates directly into the scales, get signatures from the scientific reading instruments. So we're removing bad actors and we're removing errors and we're speeding the process. You have a computer science degree and software background like yourself but also got an MBA from Babson College. One of the things, the words they use in the MBA class is value chain. The value chain, you know, the activities as part of the creating value. Kind of a document thing. But the word blockchain, value chain, really this is a perfect example of the kinds of use cases that we see in blockchain. Absolutely. Moving a product to the market, reducing the steps it takes to do something, saving time and being more efficient. And having a complete trust system. You know, when you have a farmer who's paying a 1% premium to be able to ensure to get paid at a 90% and there's still litigation and everything being involved, this completely eliminates that scenario. Yeah. The other thing we talked about in theCUBE this morning and yesterday in conversation I was saying is that killer apps money, which is what great money has to move around. That's what we see activity on and some bad actors there for sure. But marketplaces is also the other killer app. Do you agree? I mean, because you're essentially creating a marketplace, you need a marketplace. Absolutely. I actually just got approached about 10 minutes ago from a local Puerto Rican gentleman who's restarting a farm after the weather event that happened here. He's trying to figure out how to get money into the US market, but is scared to sell it to just anyone. He asked me if it's possible to be able to put it, set up smart contracts with all the random buyers that want to buy his honey. This is an exact scenario where we're helping a community who has to start over and figure out who to sell their product to. You know, Luis, this is a great example of kind of categorically what I'm seeing across the disruption scheme out there, which is in the cloud computing era, Amazon Web Services created a catalog of services that allowed you to use resources without having to build stuff up from scratch provisioning servers. This is kind of happening here where you're starting to see sets of services or players, a catalog of services happening in business. So actually going to the next level, this seems to be a consistent pattern. What's your take? Yeah, absolutely. It's allowing the smallest guys in the industry to the biggest guys in the industry to take advantage. When you have people using Amazon Web Services, you're having massive corporations and the one businessman owner. What we're doing here is we're giving the same opportunities for both classes of people to be able to scale and put their product on the market without having to do a massive investment or be scared that they're going to get robbed. It's a great value proposition. I'm sure you got a lot of investors knocking on your door. Take us through what you're doing right now. You're doing an ICO. Are you raising money? And what are your expansion plans? Because I know you're in Texas. Are you in California yet? I mean, a lot of agricultural activity there. What's your growth plan? So what we're doing is we're doing a token sale event and we're doing a private placement sale to accredited investors. We are trying to respect all the SEC regulations out there. We're launching that at the end of this month. We are currently based in Texas and we also got approached by the Mexican government to apply the technology to the state run silos in Mexico. So what we're looking for is really finding people who want to help us scale this product worldwide and being able to participate in our sale. If you're able to go on to our website, grainchain.io and sign up to our white list, that'll allow you to get some information on how to participate. Grainchain.io, like the grain of seed. Absolutely. Okay, so I'm going to ask you about Puerto Rico. Yes. You've been here a couple of days. What's the vibe here? I mean, why is this such an important event? A lot of people who are watching this aren't here. What's happening in Puerto Rico? What are you hearing in the hallways? What is some of your conversation and what are your observations? I mean, I think that the reality is that Puerto Rico is trying to embrace technology and trying to embrace an industry that can support the people here. We've seen a lot of the devastation as they're driving them around, but Puerto Rico's back up and running. So the reality is I feel very, very strongly about not only supporting the local economy, but the fact that they're supporting real technology and providing and trying to get real solutions into this country to restart. And the young people are really engaged on blockchain crypto. Absolutely, and you know, you'll have a lot of young, very, very aggressive developers. I've met a lot of people here who've come here, a lot of locals who are looking for work in blockchain and developers. So we're very excited to really, really see that everything's kind of kicking back up here in Puerto Rico. Well, my final question for you, Louise, is as an industry participant and developer and player, what is this wave about? You put your industry hat on and expert hat on. What is happening? I mean, what is really happening with blockchain crypto and decentralized applications? Because there's so much action. People want to get on this wave and surf this puppy. What's happening? In your personal opinion, what is this wave all about? I mean, I think that this is, again, from not comparing to the dot-com era, but it's giving the average person the ability to get into real industry. It's allowing everyone to be a participant, an investor, a developer, an overall embracer of the technology that you haven't seen in a long time. Usually the technical, the software development and putting out products takes a lot of technical skill. And this has really kind of encouraged everyone to embrace it, look at it, and allows everyone to participate. It's basically the democratization of society. Absolutely. But it's also the democratization of a world economy, not a local economy. And the locals can play and customize it for their own personal needs. Absolutely. Well, Puerto Rico's got a great opportunity. Luis, thanks for coming on. CEO of greenchain.io. I'm John Furrier at the Blockchain Unbound Conference, day one of two days of coverage. We're talking to all the experts, entrepreneurs, thought leaders, investors, more live coverage after this short break.