Greetings humans. Good morning. Good afternoon now. Happy DEF CON. It's Saturday. You guys made it through the night and thanks for showing up here. So what up? So my name is machinist.  I've done industrial customers over the last few years, and I found there's sort of a common theme between where all the limitations of these people's knowledge is as far as turning up an imaginary object into a real tangible object we can hold in our hands. So I just want to kind of give you a little bit of insight over I don't know a quick little crash course in how to take a vague idea, put some dimensions, put it in the 3D world, and output it somehow. So a little bit about myself. I'm from Southern California. I help run a hacker space out there where we pretty much focus on the industrial arts. I have a machine shop background. I went to trade school rather than engineering schools. I learned how to crank handles and sweep the floors rather than, you know, calculus and top-end kind of stuff. So all of my background comes from like practical applications of being able to take a measurement, put it into solid works, and get it out of your 3D printer. So trying to focus on here. Like I've been saying, we're working on trying to put some sort of framework about how to deal with taking a real quick simple little widget like I have up here on the table or anything like this. The one on the right is actually a project that got me started at DEF CON five years ago for the Breverage Cooling Contraption Contest. It was one part of a giant pressure tube for phase change dry eyes. It's really crazy there's video about that. But that's just one of the kinds of problems that we're trying to solve with very basic mechanical engineering concepts. But there are a few different considerations that we need to take into account like how big do these things need to be and in what range can we have these parts, you know, bigger or smaller? That's a very nuanced subject that hopefully I can enlighten you guys about a little bit just for practical applications.  So when we're first trying to solve this problem, a good question to ask yourself is how many of these parts am I going to make? Am I only going to make one, a hundred, a hundred thousand? Because those choices dramatically affect how you're going to approach the problem. If you're only going to make one, maybe I need a CNC machine to just custom mill, you know, one little piece. Maybe a guy can do it by hand in his garage. Who knows? If you need ten million of them, maybe you need to start considering something like an injection mold machine. So that way you have a very high cost of startup for equipment and tooling and research and development.  So scalability is an important concept when you're trying to figure out, like, can I get this product out into the real world? And that's another thing that 3D printers are wonderful for. I highly recommend you guys tinker around with those a little bit just because it totally changes the game about producing a single trinket. It just trivializes the amount of effort it takes to get to your first prototype or, you know, maybe the 3D printed part is good enough for it in results. So just some food for thought. So what are we going to do to make these measurements? How accurately do we need to measure these things? So you'll have to forgive me for my shitty webcam software. I couldn't figure out here in the last five minutes, but my favorite tool is just a set of little shitty digital calipers from Harbor Freight. You pretty much get what you pay for when it comes to these kinds of tools, but I use this every single day. It's my workhorse. So, you know, these are like $15 from Harbor Freight, but they're not highly accurate. They're not that high quality.  So calipers are pretty much my workhorse, my go-to, but they're not good for a precise measurement. They're only good enough for reference, and I'll show you what that means here in just a minute. I've got another set of tools here, some micrometers. So, these things are essentially measuring the same things as my calipers, just to a more accurate degree here. I'll stop moving around so I can focus. So, I have a little rotating thimble here. Let's see if we can see that. Here we go. So, this is taking measurements in thousands of an inch. My little thimble is trying to keep track of it, but you always need to be able to read the analog versions. Like, these calipers here are digital, but I definitely prefer the mechanical dial calipers just because they always work. You don't have to worry about the batteries. Another thing to consider about these tools is they're fragile. They're trying to measure very precise bits. So, like, if you take this on a cutting tool on these sharp blades here and just grind it around putting all sorts of pressure, you're going to ruin the very delicate. There's some very delicate faces right in here that need to stay flat and precise and precision ground. So, it just requires a little bit of understanding of the tool, how to take some measurements. There's an outer diameter measure here. There's an inner diameter measurement here, and there's also a depth measurement on that backside. Just a couple of faces that you can use. Even right here, there's a depth measurement you can use between these two faces. So, like I said, I highly recommend you get a pair of these, learn how to use them because it does take a little bit of skill because you can actually force these calipers to take a bad measurement. So, let's just take a quick little measurement here along this part. 371. Now, I can deform this. 365. So, just something to consider, right? I can actually deform this a measurable amount by putting too much pressure on my thumb. So, like I said, it takes a little bit of practice to get used to learn how to measure, but we can also take a couple of quick measurements. So, we got this hole back here. Hey, 372. That's about the same size as that thickness. But, 370, 372. That's a weird number. I'm a big fan of grids or dividing by fractional amounts. You see that a lot in manufacturing, where things are 8ths of an inch, 3 eighths of an inch. So, 370 is really close to 375, which is 3 eighths of an inch. So, you can pretty much assume that this was meant to be designed at 375, but it was manufactured a little bit small. So, just something to consider, right? Like, what was the actual intent of this part? What is the function of this little part? What's it supposed to do and how accurate doesn't need to be made in relation to that? So, we'll go over a couple of those concepts here as we go through the talk. So, decimal places of accuracy. That's a pretty big one that always blows my mind when it comes to engineers.  It's just impossible to consider making something so large with such a small percentage of error. You know, margin of error is what we're always trying to work with with mechanical engineering. You can never make precise perfect parts. And anybody spend some time over the Lockpick Village recently today or in Defconn's past, because what we're trying to do in the Lockpick Village is use some mechanical engineering concepts to exploit manufacturing tolerances. The locks can't be made perfectly. The little pins aren't the same size. They're not all drilled in the same line.  So, that's what I'm trying to get across is like, you know, there's lots of little tiny details and that's where the devil is, right? Like 90% of the work is in the last 10% of the details when it comes to mechanical engineering. So, I took some rough measurements off this part. We took a look at it, but we need to be able to intellectualize this somehow. I like to get it down on paper. Whenever someone comes to my shop looking for some help trying to manufacture a little widget like this, I always try and tell them, you know, even if you don't have any engineering skill, I'll just try and draw it on like a cocktail napkin. So, that way we can, you know, start going through the process of what this shape looks like and what we're supposed to end up with. So, we'll do just that. I'll just pull up some Microsoft Paint before we go to the Hardcore Solidworks. So, we got my little widget here and I'll just make a quick little representation of it. Awesome. So, let's see how close that is. So, one thing to consider about this part here is like, what the hell is it even for? Why am I even bothering to go through this talk? This is actually a part that I was approached with at work a few weeks ago. My boss just handed me that little widget and says, here, I need a hundred more of these and I need a hundred of the mirror, the opposite side. So, he just threw this little part at me, no other instructions than that, not even a blueprint. So, figure it out, Bozo. Like, that's your job, right? So, okay, I had to go through the process like, what was the original design attempt? What was this thing even supposed to be? It looks just like a little pro magnum drawing up on a cave somewhere. So, I have the part assembled here and this is actually a bearing block. There's two little bearings that are supposed to fit on this dowel pin, which goes nicely into these edges here. So, this is just meant to support some roller bearings to support some weight as they roll across and I guess they were disposable, they wear out over time, so they needed a few copies of these. With that in mind, the dowel pin here gives us a little bit of food for thought. Dowel pins are usually found in commodity sizes, fractional sizes, eighth of an inch, quarter of an inch. In this case, it's 3 eighths of an inch, 0.375 exactly. This is actually a reference you can use too. So, let's see what this tells me. 375, perfect. So, this is the initial design intent of the part. Everything needs to fit around this dowel pin and everything gets built around that. Yes, sir. Can you hold it till the end? Okay. So, design intent, I want to grill this concept in you guys. Like, what's the most important factor about our design? And where else can we fudge everything? Where else can we move things around or build things around? Because the most important factor is the size of this hole in the middle that holds this dowel pin. If I make this hole too small, the dowel pin doesn't go in at all. It's a very precise size.  So, the dowel pin is the most precise shape on this part and we'll build everything around that. So, let's do some more chicken scratches here. This dowel pin part right there. We measured it at 0.37. We want to talk about tolerancing, right? Like, how sloppy can this dimension be? How much is too much? How little is too little? In this case, to get a very good fit on this part, I can only be a little bit bigger, but no smaller. So, in this case, I need to call out this dimension a little bit more accurately. Like, 0.375 doesn't tell me enough. I need to know how much wiggle room I have. So, if I cannot go any smaller, I need to call out that tolerance as being minus zero. I cannot go any lower than that decimal amount.  So, one thousandths of an inch. This part can be no smaller and only a tiny little bit bigger than that shaft to make everything work as intended. And we can start building everything else around that. Like, you know, the dimension from up here to down here isn't so important anymore. It's nice to have close, but it doesn't need to be as precise. So, when we have this part, we're trying to figure out like what that size is. I think I remember it being like 1.2 inches. Now, notice there's a difference in the decimal places as well. And we'll get into that here some more reasoning why I'm being so specific about these sizes. 1.2 gives me a little bit more wiggle room. If I was going to call out that tolerance over here, I'll write it down here so it's a little bit more legible. 1.2, if that dimension isn't so critical, if it can be a little bit offset from how I've measured it here, we can say plus or minus 0.01. So, that gives me 10,000ths of an inch, 100th of an inch to work with. I can be a little bit smaller or a little bit bigger. It just means that the guy making these parts doesn't have to be so careful when it comes to that one dimension, but that middle hole is really, really critical. We also need to be able to take a few different views of this because this is only looking at one projection. It doesn't give me all the important details that are necessary to build this part. And I'm kind of tired of looking at paint. Let's look at this in something a little more sophisticated. So, like I was saying earlier, I've been doing a lot of SOLIDWORKS engineering the last few years, specifically towards computer-aided manufacturing. So, in other words, I had to take little widgets like this all day long from a digital version to a physical version using big manufacturing machines and SOLIDWORKS to help me along. So, this is essentially the same thing. SOLIDWORKS is a pretty powerful tool. It's also not very cheap unless you're a student, but it's pretty much the hot ticket out there on the market. Highly recommended you use it. It's just really cool, very powerful, but I've also got some neat tricks up my sleeve later for you guys to see. Very inexpensive as in free software that's just about as powerful. So, this is all sketch-based. We just have to do the same thing here. I'm just making like a quick generalization of what that shape should look like. And these little tractor lines here, sort of, they're giving me suggestions of how I want to place my next point. I'm not going to get into the details about the nitty-gritty of the software because that's not why we're really here, but at least this way you'll get to see some reasoning, some method to this madness. So, I didn't start at the center hole. I'm designing the rest of the body around. There's a zillion different ways you can make parts. There's lots of wrong ways, there's a few right ways, and every approach has its pros and cons. And one neat thing about SOLIDWORKS is it's incremental. As you start building these parts, you say, oh, I need to change something. So, you can step back, make a little tweak, and rebuild your part from there. That's why design intent is important because if you start at the wrong place, try and make a change backwards a little bit. Sometimes it blows up your model and doesn't work. And maybe we can see an example of that here in a minute. So, I just took a quick little generalization of this part, and we'll add some more dimensions to it. So, this edge from here to here, let's just call that 1.2 inches from the top to the bottom, but we have to get kind of creative here. We need to give it some sort of orientation. I can't just call a dimension to this apex. I have to call a dimension to a hidden center line here. Okay, 1.2, call these edges tangent. I'm just adding some relations, you know, making this sketch a little bit more defined. So, this way, all I can really do is change a few of these features, but we're getting pretty close to what this design should look like. So, what I want to know is what the distance is from here to where that curve is. Not a terribly important detail, but just to get this design looking right. And we can eyeball this dimension. Helps if my calipers are on. There we go. So, about 450. Let's just call that good enough, right? It's close. Let's call 500. That sounds like a better round number. Ah, that looks all right. Who cares? We can set that later. All right. So, let's take this 2D sketch and turn it into something three dimensions. We measured the width of the part is 375 thousandths of an inch. We got this 2D shape, and now we need to turn it into a 3D object that we can manipulate in different ways. We'll just extrude the shape out by .375. Gives me a quick little sample. And that's what our part looks like. Now, I've been blabbering on and on and on about the design intent, the importance of that hole in the middle. Let's call that out right now. Solidworks is really neat because it's all sketch-based.  It just makes it way easier when you have very simple little designs that you tweak incrementally rather than trying to like incorporate all the geometry into one single sketch. Just keep that in mind as you go down the road for this kind of stuff. So, the middle hole is 375, and I'm just going to place a new sketch arbitrarily on this top plane up here. You can see my little origin is just showing me the horizontal and vertical orientation, and I want to put a hole that's concentric with this outer radius right here. So, I can wake up this outer radius and it shows me where the center of the radius is. Real cool predictive modeling. So, it sometimes is kind of a pain, but it does help a lot to have the software sort of guess what you're looking for. It tries to keep you out of trouble, but the saying is SolidWorks doesn't make you a better engineer. It just helps you engineer bad designs faster. So, we'll add some dimensions. We said that hole is 375. See, it calls out to 380. Why is that? I only have two significant digits set up on SolidWorks. Hate to bore you guys to death with going through little features here, but just something to think about, right? And how deep was that hole? Instead of making an extruded boss, we're going to extrude cut, and I measured that earlier at 320 deep. It doesn't go all the way, so you can see it doesn't quite penetrate that bottom. Okay, so we're starting to get there, but my part was a little more nuanced. So, yeah, there's a nice little outer radius on this part. It's only a cosmetic thing, but hey, that's what gets you from 80% to 100%. Just a quick little visual sparkle, a visual cue that all the edges match up and line up is really cool. So, let's put that fillet into SolidWorks. One, two, four, there you go. And this is cool. It's just one simple tool. Select tangency and that edge. Our fillet's on there. We also had some holes down here on the bottom. So, these are two tapped holes. They're threaded holes meant to take a bolt, a certain size bolt. And there's very critical considerations once you start talking about threads and holes and bolts. Anybody own the machinery's handbook at home?   It just it'll help you get in and get out of many pinches. So, I got these two threaded holes and this could be very painful for an engineer to have to like spec out. Like SolidWorks just really makes the whole process easier. So, whole process. Waka waka. I haven't had enough liquor today. Where's my Scotch? So, this is an 832 hole and I'll just do the same thing here. All I need to do is give SolidWorks a sketch relation and it will put in all the detailed information for me. So, all types it is on a threaded hole but it has a near side counter sink on it. So, this is just kind of floating around here in space. Add some relations here. So, I have a new sketch that's open. I'm going to convert this edge to use some reference geometry. Same thing in here. So, now we have some references where I can place a hole along the centerline of this part. And you notice these dotted lines that's referring to construction lines. They're only for reference in the design. Somewhere along. So, I can either dimension to a center or dimension across a span just using a little bit of cleverness in technique here. Let's make those holes 750 thousandths of an inch apart, three-eighths of an inch apart.  I can just make a quick little mirror. So, I'll make a mid plane in between these two edges that I can now make a reference mirror around. So, we have our 832 hole and make a mirror across our new plane right there. Bam. So, there's our part ready to go. So, what do we do at this point? Right? We need to make a couple of choices. This is something that we can send out to the C and C machine. That usually requires a very skilled artisan to run the machine. They're non-trivial to use just because it takes years and years to learn how to handle the big robots and different kinds of alloys. Like I said, non-trivial venture to get these things to machine, especially if you're trying to do it yourself. 3D printing has been a great tool that's revolutionized the way I've made things in the last few months, few years. Now that we have the physical shape here, it's a piece of cake to export this to something that a 3D printer would understand. This is a native SOLIDWORKS file, so it's not really friendly with like exporting to like open source software. This is very closed, very contained, but all we need to do is save the file type as an STL. That's the 3D printer's favorite file type preference. And one weird thing about STL files, if you're not aware of this, is that it saves the files without any curves on them. Everything is broken up in a straight line, so just consider that in your InDesign. Since this dowel pin I have up here for this part is perfectly round, but I'm going to end up with a part with straight serrated edges, like is that going to be okay? Probably from a 3D printed part because the plastic isn't going to be, it's going to have some give, it'll flex, you know, I can force a pin in there if there's a little bit of a size difference where aluminum is going to be a little more difficult to force a too big pin in a too small hole. So just something to think about, you know, now that we've got this part, you know, saved out in a 3D printer friendly fashion, let's go ahead and fire up some 3D printer software to look at some considerations of how we would manipulate the object at this point, because it's almost there, right? We don't quite have it lined up, we don't have it in our hands. This is the 3D printer software I use for my Stratasys 3D printer. My HackerSpace back home has a really fancy industrial 3D printer that we're very lucky to be able to use and make really cool stuff with, but I've been able to get my hands on a MakerBot in recent months. Anybody in the audience have MakerBot? Awesome. How do you like your 3D printer? Yes. Awesome. So yeah, 3D printers are great tools, but you just have to have a need to use them.  Like, take a custom design and output it through your 3D printer totally changes the device from being like a novelty trinket to something you can actually use and, you know, problem solve with. So keep that in mind. So let's import this part in. We got our STL file on our desktop, and we can see it in our virtual world just sort of oriented there, no big deal. Now, there's a few different holes and a few different orientations that we need to take some considerations on. The 3D printer, the way that it layers the print, you know, slice by slice, you get these really weird grain patterns and structural differences in the grain pattern. It's kind of like wood. It's strong along the grain, but very weak across the grain. So every 10,000ths of an inch, every little slice that this part goes up is going to, it's going to be strong along the slice, but weak across the slice. So with this bearing, when you put this pin in there, if there's any sort of like shear force, that might be something you'd want to consider in the design of this part. Conversely, we also do have a minimum size limitation for how big we can make the smallest feature on a 3D printed part, and usually it's about 40,000ths of an inch. For reference, 40,000ths of an inch is about the size of your fingernail or about one millimeter if you prefer metric units. So some of these details like those holes on the side with the little threads, they're going to be more accurate. They're going to need more accuracy than the 3D printer can produce. So that's, that would be one limiting factor why we could not produce this part exclusively using a 3D printer. Now there are ways around that. You could use some threaded inserts or just tap a hole in there, but that goes into a slightly deeper subject than we'll probably be getting into here. So once I've oriented this part, you know, if I want to have the support material, you know, fill in this hole, or if I want the hole to be, you know, open to the air and nothing be filled in there at all. Or, you know, maybe we do decide that we can print with those threads on the bottom. And if we slice across the big hole, then it doesn't matter. So just something to think about. From this point, it's really easy. It's just pretty much point and go.  You can print them full solid or hollow if you want them faster and cheaper or as a prototype.  It puts all the toolpath of all of those slices together and exports it to your 3D printer. And hopefully later today we can get out the MakerBot. We'll probably set up in here and tinker around with it a little bit if you guys are curious. So if I had the printer here, we could take this out and export it. But that's kind of the general idea. And I did realize I got a little distracted from my slideshow.  So I only got like five slides for you guys. So a couple other concepts, right? Like we talked about how many zeros. Here's some information, sort of like what I was chicken scratching up on the up on the screen there. Another interesting thing I learned is I'm always looking for reference dimensions, right? Like in the shop I have something called 1, 2, 3 blocks. They're very precise blocks that are round exactly, you know, one inch and two inches and three inches. And I can always check my calipers to say, oh, yeah, that's exactly one inch. That's they're true. They're measuring accurately. But a really neat gauge of measurement is a big glider. My buddy John Gandy turned me on to this. It measures about 990 across the edges, like less than about 1% shy of an inch. So very, very accurate gauge of an inch if you ever need that in the near future. Kind of a neat hack. So this is an example of a 3D printed part using some threaded holes like I was talking about. Now, referring back to the machinery's handbook with all the information about thread pitch and the distance between each thread and the size between the minor diameter and the major diameter of the holes, you can pretty much forget a lot of that when you're using SOLIDWORKS because it takes a lot of that painful detail out of the process. But in this instance, we were able to use a creative solution to these holes. Typically, if you would make holes in a piece of aluminum, you'd have to do a spot drill just to get like a starter hole. You'd have to get a very specific size drill for whatever size thread you want. And then you have to thread the tap in very, very carefully to form the shapes of those grooves on the way down. But with plastic, it's not nearly as tough as aluminum so you can use a little bit more wiggle room. The hole doesn't have to be precise. It's okay if there's no straight edges. And metal cutting tools really like to remove plastic material from a hole. So what we just ended up doing here is we skipped the first three steps of producing these tap of these threaded holes inside of a part and just directly modeled the precise hole into the 3D printed part. And all you needed to do was run a tap down there and it was done. So very, very trivial way to bypass what would have normally been a very difficult project on either a milling machine or, you know, even if you had like some drill motors who were trying to do this with it, just using a 3D printer to bypass a lot of these typical engineering problems, you know, it allows you to do smart work than hard work. I guess that's the point I'm trying to get across here. So talking again about tolerance and slop and measurements and accuracy, if you ever need to send a print out to a manufacturing house or engineer or whatever, they're always going to ask you, you know, how many zeros do you want in the design? And that will directly correlate to how many zeros you want in the dollar price. So a pretty reasonable amount is about 5,000 some an inch plus or minus, you know, that might as well be a mile for any manufacturing process. That's a little more than the thickness of a sheet of paper.  There's our machinery's handbook again. I can't stress enough what an important reference that is for dealing with even the simplest engineering problems or processes. It has lots of really good information in it, like the thermal expansion rate of materials. So if you have dissimilar materials bolted together that go through thermal changes. So, you know, that's something you might want to consider is how much they're going to grow, how much they're going to stretch and expand, and you know, what kinds of forces that adds to all the fasteners over a distance. So, you know, very open ended, top heavy subject to try and get into.  I still got a little bit of time here, I believe. Do want to do a little bit of Q&A here, but I did want to show you guys a neat little treat that I discovered in the past few months. So, like I said, I was doing SolidWorks Engineering for a few years. SolidWorks is like $4,000 for the base package.  So, recently there's been a great online alternative called Onshape, which was developed by the original SolidWorks team. Actually, John Hirsch is spearheaded the Onshape project and he was one of the original members of the MIT Blackjack team. So, the guy got rich, screw in Vegas, you know, went out and made SolidWorks and now he's doing something Onshape. It's free, basically SolidWorks. So, once I find my Onshape. So, it's free to sign up. They're still in beta right now, but it's 90% of the functionality you need in SolidWorks with, you know, 10% of the features. Like this will accomplish 95% of the things I've done inside of SolidWorks. So, I've already drawn this part, but I'll draw it again just so you guys can see the same process is the same. Once you know Onshape, you know SolidWorks.  So, it's really, really cool. Very, very close accurate representation. So, we'll just go ahead and make a new document. It wants me to delete something. Hold on. Those always go perfectly. I'm just glad SolidWorks didn't crash. Like that was amazing, dude. So, this is essentially the same workspace that we have here, but this is all getting rendered on the cloud. One problem with SolidWorks is that it usually requires a Death Star workstation with a, you know, needs very specific licensing requirements and I mean, this dinosaur is 20 pounds. I don't know why I'm still carrying this thing around, but I guess it's better than the way they used to do CAD on, you know, big Vax PDP system. So, I guess I don't have to whine anymore now that you can do CAD on a tablet on a thin device. I've done it on Chrome OS before. So, it just works. And what's really neat is you're always on the latest version when you're running, you know, the cloud based CAD where SolidWorks is a non-trivial install. As a SolidWorks support engineer, I spent the first three months out of every year helping people unscrew their software installs. So, I'm sure none of you guys know what that's like. So, same process here. You know, we have a couple of little planes that we can work with. We'll just draw a new sketch plane on this front plane. Go view normal too, so we look directly down on top of it. And we'll just start drawing some lines. So, that's starting to look like something. So, the hot key for line is L, we'll go figure, right? And I'm just kind of roughing out this model. All these lines are blue because I haven't locked them down. They're still free floating. So, like, I can grab these points, you know, draw and drag them around. It's trying to align vertically with that edge right there. That's what I want it to do.  So, just kind of cool to know that you can drag and drop this stuff around. Let's see. We want to try and make these edges tangent right there. There's at least two curves. Oh, I just deleted everything. Huh, let's do that again. So, maybe we'll start with a circle. There you go. That's looking better. And then I'll draw the rest of the design around it. Maybe that's the easier way. See, now it already knows that the line is tangent. So, sometimes you beat your head up against a wall trying to solve a problem one way. If you just take a few steps back and try a different approach, usually you can get this software to agree with you. Just like every other piece of software I'm sure you guys specialize with. So, now we have that edge tangent. We'll do the same thing on the other side. There we go. You notice how it changed my relations to finally find a tangency once I drag the cursor around to a more tangent area. So, it's something to think about. So, now I can draw the rest of this design. Okay, that looks right. So, we still have some sketches here. And the only way I can make a 3D solid object is if I have one path around the outer edge. Right now, solid works or on-shape wouldn't know how to deal with this because it doesn't know if I want to make a solid body out of that circle or out of that of the rest of the part or out of both of them. So, it usually helps to trim these tools to trim these things a little bit. See where is my dimensions, sketch features. There you go. Sorry, I've only used the software like three times. So, I can just trim that inner edge. And now we have something we can turn into an extrusion. And this should look similar from what we were just dealing with. 0.375. Put a new sketch on this top face. There's my concentric point. Again, I'm getting really good at this. I must be running low on liquor. Done with this one. So, this is a little bit weird. The buttons are changed around it. Like I said, it's pretty much the same concept, even the same shapes that you select for the various tools. But this instance, I want to remove that hole, go 320 deep. It's pretty close. Oh yeah, I forgot to fill it on the outside. Same tool here, right? One, two, five. So, that's an eighth of an inch. And this already guessed, hey, I want to fill it around the tangency of that edge. So, there we go. Hide these sketch planes. And let's see how close that is to SOLIDWORKS. Side-by-side comparison of the right-hand side. $4,000 plus commodity software. The left-hand side. Free online CAD that came out just a few months ago. Please use it because it's freaking wonderful. Blow your mind. So, I think that about wraps up what I had for you guys. I have time for some questions or comments or interesting anecdotes if anybody has them. Am I familiar with SketchUp as a question? Yes, I am familiar with SketchUp and I've used it once, smashed my face in the keyboard for about 15 minutes and got nothing to happen. So, I gave up. Why use SketchUp when you have this online for free? Interesting. So, the gentleman was mentioning that when he's been using his 3D printer, making the parts completely solid dramatically affects the thermal expansion rate. When they cool off, if you have a solid model, they shrink or grow more than if you had the model maybe 60% full, is that right? So, yeah, I've experienced very similar things myself using the MakerBot style 3D printers. You do have to accommodate for a little bit of that flex and warp and shrinkage. Yes, especially so. Thanks for coming out guys.


standing on a beast and holding the tour. This exists because of the squatterment. All of the totem poles and the ashore trees of the Old Testament exist because of the sacred pillar that emanated from the assembly. In the Book of Revelation they speak of the two witnesses that flanked the Lord of the Earth.  In Revelation it reads as follows. They are the two olive trees and the two lampstands, and they stand before the Lord of the Earth. If anyone tries to harm them, fire comes from their mouths and devours their enemies. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. They have the power to shut up the heavens so that it will not rain during the time they are prophesying, and they have the power to turn the waters into blood, and to strike the earth with every kind of plague, as often as they want. The two they are referring to are not people. They are not future events, but past events. Just as Enki was said to be the Lord of the Earth, he was also flanked by the two rivers. The squatterman certainly lordied over the earth flanked by the two. We see the archetype with Odin and the two ravens. Connection between Odin and the ravens is very old and very deep. Already in the 6th and 7th centuries, and well before the beginning of the actual Viking Age in the late 8th century, we see ancient visual depictions of Odin on helmets and duly frequently picturing him of two ravens. Poor ravens sit on Odin's shoulders and whisper all the news which they have seen in the world on that day. They are called Hugen and Munnen. He sends them out in the world in the morning, across the whole earth, and by breakfast they are back again to devour his news. Some have offered what sounds like explanations, but the true origins have been completely lost to history, because they don't know about the assembly of the gods or the potney of fear for on being assimilated of the squatterfield, which began the cultural response in the aftermath of the cataclysmic squatterman event. Brunos tells us that the squatterman is still all around us, but we have been completely blinded by it. People have carried the biwo around for years being completely oblivious of the menorah's origin, for example. This is through no fault of their own, of course. But what did Odin sacrifice again? His eye? Over time the tales become more fantastic and detailed and personified, so very few survived these catastrophic events in some groups that did survive would surely believe that they were the chosen ones by God.


As we conclude conversations surrounding the events from the ENSA's movement one year later, we're being joined by international relations expert Michael and Ketia from Ghana and of course social entrepreneur Kofo Kegel. Thank you very much gentlemen for joining us. Thank you and thanks for having me in the show. Yes Michael, I have had a conversation with you about how the world perceives Nigeria's handling of this issue of you know ENSA's and young people protesting against police brutality and bad governance. Now it's a year, exactly a year after people were killed, people were shot at, people were injured at the Lekitou Plaza in Lagos, Nigeria. And we saw people come out to commemorate the day and if you have been following the news coming up from Nigeria you would see almost a repeat of what happened this time even though people were not shot at or killed. There was some form of police harassment and malhandling. The main reason why that protest even happened in the first instance. I'd like to ask you what exactly you see looking from the outside in and of course how the police and government is dealing with this issue? Well first to begin with I must say that for those of us in Ghana and other parts of the continent it came as a shock when we started seeing images and more importantly bloody videos of innocent protesters who were shot, some killed during the Lekitou agitations. What even became more surprising to some of us was the faulty attempt by the Nigerian security services and the government in general to cover the massacre. Initially there were attempts to deny that people were shot in the first place. There was an initial denier then later it was accepted that yes people were shot when no one was killed but later when we found out that people were actually killed. Another shocking aspect is that one major medium through which people started spreading their images and videos during the protest which is straight and social media was banned in Nigeria till date and if you deny people the platform the opportunity to to pull out their anger, their frustrations. If you deny them the basic platform to do that at the end of the day the people will resort to violent agitations to demand for their rights. I believe that it would have served the Nigerian government better if it had allowed Twitter to operate in Nigeria so that they knew the youth can vent their spring, they can come out to their frustrations, the youth can have a platform to communicate and share their opinion on happiness within the country. When you deny the people all these opportunities they may have nothing to but to resort to violent agitations. Again, following the fleet this afternoon from Ghana I saw even the police arresting people into cars. I saw tear gas being fired to dispense the crowd and I was asking myself as the Nigerian government as the Nigerian security forces learned anything from the Lekitobos. Quite strangely one year after the massacre no policemen no military man had been made as responsible for the death of one of the protesters till date. The Nigerian government has not published any concluding findings with regards to happening during the Lekitobos wait. I know there was a fact finding committee that was established to look into the whole Brujaha but to date it has not been published. No police officer, no military man has been found, has been indicted for the massacre that had happened at the Tobut and it is quite strange that the government will submit its various sentences to all these forms of cruel harassment or in the name of demanding for better police reforms and I believe the almost life of the Nigerian government to put the right to carry me. Kofo you're a Nigerian in diaspora you you're drawing us from the UK and we saw you and many other Nigerians protesting last year you know in solidarity with Nigerians within Nigeria who seem to be feeling the pinch more than you. A lot of people were asking why Nigerians in diaspora were even bothered knowing that you know they they some people would say they've survived you know and run away from the kind of brutality that Nigerians are facing here but that's an aside. Why did you even in the first instance think that it was necessary to go on this protest and here we are today one year later you're on TV talking about it. Do you seem that do you think that they seem to be hearing us or they just choose not to? Okay thank you so much for having me this evening you see. I agree with most of the things Michael I said you see I think as a diaspora and I'm a Nigerian wherever I find myself if I go to the UK if I go to America if I go to Canada I am a Nigerian and they wouldn't treat me as an individual they would treat me as a collective I'll be treated as a Nigerian wherever I present my passport even if I present a British passport my name says go for and I am all Nigerian you see. So when Nigerian becomes better it works for every single person whether you are living in the UK or you're living in Nigeria we want we all want to see a better Nigeria we all want to come home and we want to have to the economy of Nigeria we all want to build the nation together. So if your brother of mine is suffering in the hands of the police or a structural system is working against that it is affecting me also because one of the things I teach is we need to go from this individualism individualistic mentality to a communal mentality where we work as a group as a people as a collective with the government I don't think the government is hearing us I don't think they are paying attention to us I think they're thinking of the 2023 election I think they think it's the same thing they've always done they've always do you know find a few young people either give them money give them brain driver give them scholarship in top universities and think all is going to be over but I think something is strange and let me just ask this I said a lot of people stopped me on the road and said oh what did you achieve with ENSAZ what did you achieve with the movement you guys just wasted your time you wasted your money you wasted your effort and I even had this improvisation with my barber today I said to him I don't think we wasted our time money or effort but I think something has changed something has broken Nigerians are speaking about their nation and the guys in diaspora have seen out in democracy she worked they've seen out a nation to I'm sorry I want to come in there really has something changed if you were watching from the beginning the the minister of information the person whose duty is to inform us he's also supposedly a spokesperson for mr president has come up to say that this whole thing that we're talking about is a phantom so really has anything changed you know the the the dishonorable minister of misinformation um lying walmart sorry um the honorable minister of information um lying walmart um I think his words are suspect um I think we need to pay attention to it but we the people we know something has changed um the media or the information or the narrative can be passed out that says nothing has changed you know no something has changed people are speaking Nigerians around the globe are speaking the international community is listening you know the way you come to the UK you come to America before I just work on the street it doesn't Nigerians will stop you on the streets of London and question you as a Nigerian minister it's not the same thing anymore so something has changed the one thing about change is change is a process and process takes time you see but something has changed people are waking up gradually okay gradually and this is why we need to keep speaking and doing the things we're doing well unfortunately we're out of time gentlemen but thank you so much what a way to end this conversation my conkatia is an international uh PR expert I beg your pardon he's a political international relations and political analysts he's joining us from Ghana and Kofo Kago is a social entrepreneur and he joined us from the United Kingdom thank you very much gentlemen we have to go now thank you all right I want to thank you all for staying with us it's been a very great conversation a marathon when we return from this quick break I'll give you my take here's my take now I must say that I'm ashamed and utterly disappointed that this nation that you call ours uh you and I call our own has come to this I mean this is supposed to be a land of freedom peace and unity we used to sing it when we were in primary school but that seems to have faded away now jerry's now a country where our troops who should be protecting us and our borders have turned their guns on us killed maimed and even done this with reckless abandon but what is our crime you would ask well we ask for good governance we ask that you know the a group of policemen stopped being uh profiling us wrongly because we have iPhones and we have laptops you know we ask for an end to police brutality we ask that the police authorities stop killing innocent Nigerians through the enrolled police department called sars but instead they hung us on a cross they decided uh to oppress us and harm us forgetting that they also aren't left out of this oppression you see that's the irony of things we're all on the receiving end of this bad leadership whether you are in uniform or not whether you carry a gun or a pen or a flag we all are the victims here now until the police and all Nigerians realize that we need to band together to read this nation of these corrupt and irresponsible politicians it will continue to wallow in poverty and pain and even more grief but i'll end this by saying we haven't forgotten we will never forget the blood of the slain is crying out for justice and justice they will get so i'll say let's end sars let's end bad governance and make Nigeria great again i am mary anacor have a good evening


Mattis Kung Fu actually is from Southern province in China, around 400 years ago. The creator is called Wang Lang, he combined the 18 styles of famous Chinese Kung Fu at that time together. He used the most useful competitive fighting concept inside. Including the long-distance fist, we call it Chang Chen. Something short, close fighting techniques, something like Wing Chun. And wrestling, Chinese wrestling, fast wrestling, we call it Kua Jiao. The famous kicking techniques, Ling Zhong Yue Yang Ke, means very good kicking techniques. And also have the joint knockings, we call it Qin Na. But it's only the standing joint knockings. So about 18 styles of Kung Fu. Combined into one style. Into one system. So we call, why we call play Mattis? Because we're always using these porches, the graphic. The play Mattis clock means the graphic. No, no. Flushed eyes, no. It's for graphic, different graphic. So we have some techniques like hooking, hooking is hooking. Holding, hooking. Chai, chai, chai. This one chai.  Kua, kua. Blocking, blocking. And also we have the hooking and go in, hooking and go in. This is footwork. And clutch punch. It's beng chen, beng da, beng da. And how to move the torso. And slip it. And li, li, li. Lian Zhang Tie Kou means the sticking, li, li, for the very closing wrestling or the joint knockings. So very complex system. It's just like MMA. Just like the MMA concept of the very Asian MMA concept of Chinese Kung Fu. So that's why I want to share it to you guys. Very interesting. Thank you. The founder is called Wang La. He's the Chinese guy in Southern province, around the late of the Ming Dynasty. He created a primitive kung fu system when he observed two animals. One day he said that one day in the legend, he practiced martial arts in the mountain. He observed one praying mantis. When he catch the insect and then get him a bite, catch and bite, catch and bite, the insect cannot escape. For this idea, he created a praying mantis claw to control the enemy and then launch the striking. One day he observed the other animal, their monkeys. They observed them, they were very agile. They went bounding around and they made sure for their playmates, they kicked their playmates and then running around, very agile. So from this animal, he created a footwork, a praying mantis footwork. So we call in the praying mantis form, you can see the praying mantis claw and very agile monkey footwork. Combined two animals. Combined two animals. And he also had the 18 styles of the Chinese Asian martial arts inside. So just as I mentioned before, the long distance, short distance, closing, wrestling, joint knocking, and most of the very part of the praying mantis is the combos, the combos very special to the other martial arts. The combos including the striking, kicking, wrestling together. Not punching and then kicking and then wrestling, his combos, punching and then suddenly wrestling. The punching is for wrestling. The wrestling, when you're wrestling, but at the same time, it will make you dislocate some joints or break some bones. This is a very special idea. Everything floating there. This is specialty. So he combined these two animals. At the same time, he combined the 18 styles of the Chinese martial arts around Ming Dynasty in that period. Including the long distance fighting strategies and short distance, closing, joint knocking, wrestling and everything in that time. Kicking. Kicking, striking, punching, wrestling, joint knocking. Very complete system, actually. And you combine them all into one system? Yeah, into one system. So in the praying mantis, kung fu, we have many forms. Each form, they have their specialty or some combos. Combos is very special comparing to the other kung fu. Because the praying mantis combos is including the striking, kicking, wrestling together. Sometimes when you're striking, actually it's for wrestling. When you're wrestling, it's for joint breaking, joint dislocating. This kind of concept is very special. So you blend all the techniques together? Yeah, it's together. Actually, there are many forms because praying mantis is different branches. One of my branches is the self-star praying mantis. So in my school, I just teach ten. So three for the beginner, one for middle and the other for advanced to shorten the time. By no many other schools, they teach many, more than twenty. Twenty forms. But for me, I think ten is enough to master the call of the praying mantis techniques to understand the concept inside. Okay, thank you.


Oh my gosh, it's been so long. Oh my goodness. It's been forever. It's nighttime here. What is it there? Nighttime. It's noon here, so lunch. I just have some peanuts. I just had dinner. I'm trying not to eat as much. Oh. Nothing's working. Let's just be honest. I know. Thyroid shot. It's all shot. 40s, early 50s.  Like why were all the previous generations gatekeeping this information? Yeah, I don't understand. Even when they do talk to you, they're like, oh, perimenopause, menopause?  What? I spent all, I spent my 20s and 30s, pregnant, nursing, you know, carrying around baby weight and I'm thinking the 40s are gonna be it. No, no. Yeah, they don't tell you everything just shuts down. All of the shop shuts down in your 40s and you're like, no, no, this is when I actually have slept eight hours. So now I should be like starting to get back to my, well, I think we think we can go back to 20. Everything hurts. Everything hurts, I get out of a chair and it's like everything is tight and it takes a minute to kind of like uncramp everything and my kid's looking at me like, what's wrong? Right. I have to stretch immediately leaving the bed. Immediately. What? And like, then you even have pain when you're laying in the bed, like my knees. If I lay on them like wrong, like on top of each other like this, they all of a sudden I wake up in the middle of the night with severe pain and okay, I'm not even doing anything. No, I'm not doing anything here. I live in an apartment and somebody just tried to, I don't know what that was. Anyway, so I went to get up this morning and I didn't know that like, I really have to think about sitting up, then rolling. You know what I'm saying?  So I tried to do both and nearly got myself a hernia out of the whole thing. And I'm like, honestly, 47 should not be the new 95.  No, I know. Nobody tells you. Nobody tells you. Okay, but then listen, and listen, if you guys are watching this, like let me know.  Is that what I look like? Yes. Oh, it's so bad. I don't know if the style was just bad, you know? Like that just on the 70s and 80s styles did not do good on the 40, 50 year olds. And like, especially the men like, what are you wearing? Listen, it didn't do good for us.  I have feathered my hair by putting it in the middle. What? And feathered it. You did not put it in the middle. Yes. And then my collar is up, cause that helps everyone. My collar is up. And, you know, this is before braces. So you got teeth coming out of everywhere. This is when your kneecaps are bigger than your thighs. And you think you're good looking. So I got all sorts of pictures. And I'm like, mom. Your faucet going on, your little... Oh, yeah. Oh, mm-hmm. Yep. And I'm an old child. And braces and the, you know, what are we wearing, weirds. Anyway, I don't know. I'm like, I look at those pictures of my parents and I'm like, how old are you there? Hey, and the amount of money. Okay. My grandma used oil of au lait. Yes.  So I don't know what's in it now.  I think she used Dove. Dove's so... Listen, listen, let's talk about this. Do you have a same time as skincare routine? Oh, I do now because I have scared myself when I get up in the morning and I'm like, whose face is that? It's not mine. It's so true. It is scary. So yeah, I'm dropping money like it's hot for anything that'll... But do you do it? Do you do it? Every day? Do you do it every day? You know I have issues with discipline and consistency. Because that gives me a rash. It's a lot of work to be consistent and real boring. I gotta just kind of fly by the seat of my hand. That's a great topic too. It's boring. You know... It's boring! You know, okay, can I just say, I had a thought this morning because I met this lady. She's a little bit older than me. She's always going to the gym every day, 6 a.m. And she's like, and I asked her about it randomly and she was like, well, it's like my only me time. And I'm thinking... You wanna go... If this is your only me time, that's not what I'm doing. That is not... Press alert! That is not what I'm doing. It's not what I'm doing. Only me time. Is it real? Is she just saying that? Is it her excuse for whatever she's running away from? I don't know. But I'm just like... If that's your only me time, I am in bed watching... Bed!  This is what I'm doing. Come on, people. I'm wearing this. Wearing it. And I'm out. I don't want anybody to talk to me. Don't talk to me.  Yes, yes, yes. And so, I don't know. So we look like our... I mean, I don't feel like I look like my parents did at this age, but maybe they're a little thinner. But... But yeah, so, yeah, the night time... That's it. I remember my grandmother had it and people always are saying how nice her skin is and I just always thought it was... Yes. I don't know what you're saying. Yeah, well, my grandma's skin was great, but she had no teeth. So she pulled those suckers out at night. I don't care what your skin looks like. No. So hide my grandmother's teeth and then she'd get up in the morning and we would go hysterical. Right. I mean, they're scary. It's the first Snapchat filters. No teeth. So when they come for you, they're going to give you a kiss. It's literally like a vacuum suction. Oh, it's not pretty. It's a whole film. It really is. So, you know, I love that that was the first Snapchat filter and we didn't have really... You had the film camera so it took forever and a decade to go get them printed. So nobody got a picture of that. I know, nobody got it printed. It's the first Gen X Snapchat filter. Your grandmother with no teeth. Come in, I am. Yeah.  It's so bad.  Oh! Traumatizing. I'm like, no, now I'm going to have a nightmare. Okay, okay. Skincare routine, back to the skincare routine. Yes. You bought all the crap because, well, you're in America and so I don't blame you because if I was there, I probably wouldn't have it all. Oh, yeah. I have a whole... Yeah. So I literally, I'm like this. I about spend 10 seconds. Then I go into bed and I know I shouldn't because I'm not at the age, I shouldn't. But then I go listen to this true story. I go on vacation with my daughter who's 15 and every night she puts this thing on like this. And then she has like the steps that she's going through and she's 15, like, what are you doing? And she literally, and I'm like, well, let me try it. Let me try it. She says, no, she paid for it. Anyway, that's, you know, my bad on the parenting. But like 15, she doesn't need stuff and she just literally turns to me. This is not a joke. She turns to me and says, well, you know, I need to have better skin than you when I'm that age. Yep. This is when, you know, you can't smack people anymore. You're not allowed to do that. But that would be the appropriate setting. Okay. Can I hear it from the 80s, anyone? Thank you. Mine, you are not gonna believe this. Sophie, it's nine o'clock at night. She's also 15 with a skincare routine. Okay. She says, mom, we got to go. I am in for the night. It is nine PM. I have my jammies on. Where are we going? She goes, I am out of hydraulic, hydro, high. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I know. My daughter has it. Yeah, some sort of acid. I keep, I feel like you're talking about oil that goes in a car. But anyway, it's, and she had to have it. We had to go. You guys, we have like nine bazillion makeup stores, Sephora, Alta, you get in there. I can't. I can't. So we had to go do that. Yes, because it's poor parenting on my part. Okay. I know. It's also that it's open. See, like New Zealand, nothing's open and it has like five, 30 or six. So.  Dead. Yeah, there's literally nothing open. It is, this is not the place for nightlife. No. So things are open to like nine, but COVID ruined us for the rest of time because stuff used to be open late, late, late. Now it closes. So I don't know what these poor people are going to do, our children. They're going to have to learn how to wait. I have acid for their 15 year old. Acid. And the fact that she wouldn't share it with me and like she was like, Oh. Like all that I've done for you. Oh, this is when I talked about how long labor was and where they came from. Yeah. How they got here. Exactly what I did. And then I literally saw a video that I sent to her yesterday of a mom who goes into her daughter's room, does this and starts playing with all her makeup and she's kind of looking around like hoping she doesn't see her. Yes. I'm like, holy cow, that's me. Like I have sneak and use it and I'm going to use it because whatever I give you everything, you can share a little lip gloss. Okay. Do you remember Gen Xers in the house? Did we, did we just go do whatever we wanted with our mother's things? No. No. My daughter, I'll be like, hey, hey, hey. I need the tweezers. I mean, I got a hair coming out of places that it shouldn't be. And it is like wiry. I can't find my little, my little tweezers. Well, Steppenfetch, my 15 year old, she's got it along with the six other things that I bought just the other day for myself. Did she ask me? No. Uh-oh. Nope. The doors, it's also hers. This is how it is. Correct. Yeah. 2024. Uh-huh. This is cool. No, I know. And then they have the nerves in that even put, they're not even trying to hide it. Oh, they're not. Oh, there's no, no. With that lid off in their bathroom and like, just use my stuff. And listen, I'm not a smoker. No offense to anybody who is. I don't want to do that. But the amount of perfume that is sprayed up in this two bedroom apartment, I could die of some sort of toxic long overload. And then I'm trying to enjoy coffee and it's literally like a nuclear bomb has gone. You know, it's like, shh. I'm like, it's so bad. No, it's true. I literally, I have to walk down the stairs and make sure the kids are up for bed and I go down two steps and I smell it and I know she's up. Yep. Back to bed I go. Okay, so sorry, we just kind of jumped right in here guys. If you don't know who we are, we are friends, Christy and Tara and she lives in the US and we were friends when we were in college age and I live in New Zealand currently and we've had Tara Christy's show on this channel and it's great. And you can just click on the playlist that I will put up there for you and watch us on all the other shows. But so yeah, so it's just been a really long time and I'm just bringing her on and we just kind of started talking and it's just real talk. It's just girl talk. It's just girlfriend talk. It's whatever it is. Yeah, this is what we do. Yeah, so I actually asked the community for some questions or things they want to talk about because they're dying. I mean, guys, people have been begging where's Christy, where's Christy everywhere? And so you guys are the best. I know. Okay, so good. So are we doing in America versus New Zealand? As in we grill and don't seasoning along and slow unless it's speaking? Well, what? Okay, what? If you discuss cooked school lunches versus bring your own packed sausage rolls, pies, price, nutrition, thank you. So if you don't know Christy, like there's no hot lunches here. Like everybody does. What do you mean? And there's no cafeteria with an option for hot food that someone makes for you. Everybody brings our own food. So in a high school here, like there might be a cafe where people could buy something and they'll just have like two or three items. But a lot of times that's a whole separate business. It's not school related. And it's not true. Really? So. Oh, no.  That's what I'm hearing. So hot lunch. Cause you used to be a lunch lady. Give us all the point. I did. A lot of cans, a lot of opening cans, a lot of frozen, warm it up in the oven. A lot of, you know, there's just a lot of preservatives.  And because in America, we go 900 miles an hour, we'd rather spend $50 a month on hot lunch than going to get cold lunch and make it for our children. Or that's just me. So it's like, I would say, is it probably about three bucks a meal every day, I would say. And you get a protein, a fruit, a veggie and your choice of milk or juice. If you want any extra milk or chocolate milk. Correct. Oh. I remember that in my kids, they love the hot lunch because they remember it finally because they don't have it here. And of course my kids are old enough where they're making their own lunch. Like I haven't made my own for years.  So what do they put in that much? Yeah, I still have to prep. Like if I don't have like salads, my daughter doesn't like sandwiches, but she'll eat salad. So as long as I have something in there, she'll eat it, you know. And she'll, but I have to prep it a little bit cause you know, kids are not eating vegetables unless they're cut up by somebody else and organized. Yeah. Oh. And even in that, I keep buying vegetables for my darn self and I keep tossing them at seven days every time. Dang it. Cause I even think if somebody else washes it and cuts it up, this was not hard. I just pull it out and eat it. But if it's anywhere near the chocolate pudding in my fridge, I just don't seem to get to it. I know I love it. Does anybody else? Chocolate pudding in the US, oh my gosh. It's with whipped cream. With whipped cream and a couple of chips on top. I have, I make it healthier because I love it because it's, you know, it's a low calorie dessert and it just feels delicious cause that's the key, right?  Correct. Yeah. Every diet plan, I have to have a treat or I can't do it. No, I know. So here's the thing that I've been thinking about diets and work with me here because unfortunately every time I look at like content for Gen X, it's always around losing weight, always. It's, I don't know. Like, can we not be concerned about something else? Like we finally got through this. We could start a whole new life right now but we're just gonna concern about this anyway. It's important. You should get yourself sorted. I'm not saying that you shouldn't, but it's not everything. No, but I think we're all shocked. We don't still fit in the size six. Right. Like they're double digits all of a sudden and we're like, what? So here's- I didn't do anything different. Yeah, here's my problem with dieting and what I'm, okay, so for years now. I mean, I even went through to a hypnotherapist. You got to help me with this or something in there. Yeah. Like I can't figure it out. This is awesome. Yeah. On my own, right? And so I've been really thinking about, I've been trying to be really honest with myself and really honest about what I'm thinking when I want to go eat that or when I do. You know, because it shows like nobody can hide it. Okay. No, no. You're not hiding anything. Okay. No, you're not hiding the thing, guys. You're not hiding the thing. So I think the problem for me is like the problem with diets is that they kind of ruin you forever because like the thought of going on a diet and then your body remembers that feeling of being hungry. And it's like, all you want to do is avoid feeling at all costs. Like I don't want to feel that horrible hunger. That's what I think it is, okay? I think that's really the problem. If someone can give us a solution and don't send me things like, I eat more than I used to. And it's all that food that I don't want to eat that. No, I don't want to hear that. Plus, here's the thing. I've been through enough trauma in my life. So your 20s and 30s, you know, when you have signed up for what I would call Jerry Springer which I did not know I signed up for that, but I did. When you hit your 40s and all of a sudden your metabolism is not working, your thyroid's not working, your face, all of a sudden has six chins. You have no answer. Your hormones are not working, correct? Everybody.  Yeah, the diet thing not happening because let me tell you what I want. Yeah, what do you want? After Jerry Springer. I want comfort. You know what comfort is? Whip cream on a cloudy day. It is a lot of chocolate, a lot of peanut butter because I like to lie to myself and say it's protein. So you just add that in with the ice cream and then the chocolate syrup on top. And here's the problem. You just want some comfort. You want somebody, you come home from work. You just want somebody to say it's okay. You're gonna lose 10 pounds someday, not today. That's what I want. So this is what I did like last year when before I came to the U.S. and Europe or whatever, I was like, okay, so for one month I'm going to eat low carb.   Like I'm just gonna be like I already hate people and then like murder will happen without carbs. This is, that should come with a warning. There should be a warning on all females that are currently dieting. So people know to watch out. Watch out. Watch it.  I'm gonna be like honest with myself about what I'm thinking. I know what has ever worked. You've tried everything, what has worked. Obviously less bread works, less pasta works. Has worked, you know. And so, okay, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna do low carb. I'm not gonna pick a number. I'm not gonna like stress because I know all of those things I lose. I cannot maintain it. And I lose and I run the other way.   I understand the, don't come at me, okay? I know. So what I did was I took, this is what I wanna eat. You know, like this is what we normally make. This is what we make, hamburgers, tacos, you know. Yes. Sonja, whatever it is, butter chicken, I love it, right? And so I'm like, I'm gonna make all of these things healthier. I'm just gonna make what I'm already eating without the carbs. So I had cauliflower rice instead of rice. And I made bread with cheese. And it was, and I'm, you know, and it was effort. It was just definitely effort, you know? But it was more motivating because I was gonna make something that I think will actually be good. And then I actually already mentally want to eat. You know what I mean? And I can't eat the bun. Like I'm not eating the, I'm not eating a hamburger without a bun. I'm not. Like, where am I putting all of my condiments and my vegetables? Yeah. Because the lettuce isn't over yet. Just, and it works. I think I lost six pounds, seven pounds in a month. That's great. Good. But then I came there. Well, and everything's here. Cheese curds.  So anyway, it was good. Yeah, so, and I'm trying to do that again, but it's not really working because I'm feeling like it's a lot of effort right now. It's a bit busy.  So if anybody's got some tips. Oh, that's just forever.  And we've been teaching ourselves that for so long that it almost feels wrong when we go, oh, actually I'm not gonna drive you around like an unpaid Uber. I'm actually going to just sit my butt here and you'll be fine for a whole 30 minutes. You can wait. My daughter cannot wait. She is like, listen, I get done with school at three. We're gonna need you there at 2.45. I'm gonna need you to park in the parking lot because I'm not walking any further than the four steps out the front door. I don't know about you. I had to walk home. And it was not a block. I walked home. I ran from a car that tried to kidnap me. I mean, this is the 80s. We survived. We survived. Metal, metal slides. We survived. Metal slides. With no sides, like people. What in the world is wrong with our parents? And it was like straight up like the Eiffel Tower. Straight up. And then no sides. It's hotter than a red wagon, which means your skin gets left up top.  But look at us. We will survive. Jen Exers, let's hear it. Are you here? Are you here? Yeah, it's like, I've tried to fight. I've tried to fight those battles myself. And it's just, it's more work dealing with them complaining at me. Then it is. Correct. This is why I'm like, fine. 245 parking less. I'm there.  And if she's not exactly there at the time, he leaves. So that's a lot helpful for me. Thanks. Thanks for that. Yeah. My ex-husband? Well, you weren't there. Well, you just got to answer the phone. You wouldn't, you weren't there. So figure it out. She's had a clock at night. She's a female. Okay. Right. Paula. Could you? No, they can't. They're set, they're like, you will not inconvenience me. And I'm like, that's all I've been ever since these people showed up. I don't understand that. I want to be like that. Can I be like that? I know. I want to be like. I want to be them. They can sleep when these children are nowhere around. I know. They can sleep. And they don't worry about anything. Zero worry. They don't think about and he's just like, it doesn't even enter into the mind. They just sleep on. You know. And I'm just like, oh my gosh. Constant. It's constant. And I feel like I worry because you're not worrying. Like if I felt like you're correct, then I could relax about it, you know? And I don't know, but I mean, we're moving towards being more like men, right? We're losing our estrogen. We could not be more masculine right now. Oh, I'm going there. And we don't care. Right here. Yeah. I'm going to have a mustache at no time. Maybe a little chin hair, maybe a goatee. I don't know. But I'm losing my hair here. It grows here. What? I don't understand. Zero. I understand zero. And like you said, as I get older, you care very little about what I look like. I actually look like Walmart people now. You know, when you would make, you know, we used to make fun of, there was a Walmart kind of type of person. That's anybody over 45. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares now. But we're in the same clothes and that ugly card again. You got it. Mr. Rogers on steroids over here. With our hair. I got every color. Look crazy. Look like this. Oh, that's what I got today. Like this. I tried to beach wave my hair and that didn't go well. So it went up in a pony because it's just bad. Well, how did you try to beach wave it? Well, because I was going out. So I had to look to you. How, how? Oh, you take a straightener. Yeah.  I was doing it wrong. I put everything towards my face. Don't do that. Get it away. I find that very hard. I find that very hard. This is what you do.  That's what I did. It worked out just fine. Is our people asking us anything about, you know, what do they want to know? Guys, I can do this all day about nothing. You're so distracting. I can't. Okay. So somebody also asks about what matters in life and do, do we feel more fulfilled in the US or New Zealand in terms of what matters? So obviously that depends on the person in terms of what matters in life. I think that we could all agree to health, safety, low stress, you know? And I think that, I think that you can get it. You know what I'm gonna say? I've thought about this a lot. It is ingrained in the value system of New Zealand for those things to be valued and not as much in the US for those specific things. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist there. I think that who you are around heavily influences that as well in terms of how you think about that. Are you letting those people in that causes stress? You know, the healthcare system, it's hard because it's like you can afford it or you can't or you can go bankrupt just because you have an accident. Like that's very stressful when you don't have that here, you know, even none of it.  No matter how to penny, zero. For me it was like, whoa. So like the benefit of being here is that your eyes open to a different way of doing something, you get a perspective, then you're able to draw conclusions from that.  You know, people, a lot of Americans read about socialized healthcare, you know, they think it's bad. Yeah, and we don't know. They haven't experienced it. Do you know what I mean? And so it's not perfect in either way, either way is not perfect. But it's just, I'm like, oh my goodness. It's just, you can't, yeah. So, yeah. I think it's based on a person too. Cause in the US, the things that were of value 30 years ago are starting not to be as much value. So family was huge value 30, 40 years ago.  Sports, that wasn't even a thing. Women didn't even play sports, you know? And so now the value has switched to kid focus and sports and it has taken away a lot of community. But if you are a person who says, faith is important and family is important, you'll make it happen. Whether you're here, live in New Zealand, whatever. If you can set up your life however you want and even when I was there with my parents and was working there for a couple months and work life looks different than the world that they grew up in. And it was just a constant communication as like my mom interrupting me and I'm like, I'm working. And they think cause I'm home, they don't understand it exactly. You've seen a million videos and it's like, work looks different, expectations are different.  But like there's an option these days with the digital economy for it to look different. And you have to put steps in place for that to happen. And it's great. And I've been helping people do that. And it's just getting easier and easier. AI actually is easier. Yeah. And like you were telling me because I've never been to New Zealand. I've never lived over there. But you used to live here and just the work, the amount of time off you guys get is amazing.  And then by the time you get to retirement, you're gonna use all your money for cancer, a heart attack, a stroke, because you have stressed yourself out so bad, working and working and working and working to try to get to a point where you can take a break. Well, now we're old trying to take a break. And I'm not saying we, everybody should work hard. I mean, you just, we should work hard. But there's other ways that you can do that and also value time because time is not something you can bottle up and keep. And so as we're getting older, for me, time is becoming more important to me to have it off, have it doing something I want to be doing. And so I'm picking jobs based on that, not based on the dollar amount. Correct. And that's what people need to be looking at. They're like over-emphasizing this like their happiness equals money a lot of times. And like really like what actually would bring you happiness is to be able to go to your kids' sporting events to be able to be done at three o'clock every day. And what does that look like at $40,000, $50,000 a year?  You can do any job like in say 20 hours a week and feels like nothing, you know? So like if you just think about it like that. So like, yeah, so I have been working towards getting to the point where I could just work part time and run these things and just be able to build community and time or to just be, you know? Yeah. Like the goal needs to not be to make X amount of money. The goal needs to be for you to be living your best life whatever that looks like for you. And it's different for everybody and there's no judge around it, you know? So. I still think our best life will be having our own talk show and somebody needs to pick us up and make it happen. QVC. Wait, did I say that right? Yeah, QVC that you said that right. But that's the beauty of it is that like, I was just actually listening to, what is it? Ben J Lo's husband, why is Ben Affleck? Oh yeah, Affleck or whatever. Yeah, so like people are saying that celebrities aren't as good anymore. And he's like, no, like the whole world has decentralized celebrities. So people's celebrities are now their favorite YouTubers or their favorite podcasters. And it's not some random people that decide that these really good looking, talented people are the celebrities, you know? People have new celebrities. Like it's decentralized. Anybody for free can go out and create something and it's amazing.  This is something that I was talking about yesterday. Let me know what you think about this. I was thinking about the fact that somebody had mentioned that it's actually hard, whether you're on a podcast or social media or whatever you wanna do or just in life to be your authentic self. So that's what's important. That's what's working. That's what people are done with the fake, the acting that I'm rich and I'm amazing. Everybody's done with that. But the thing is, is to actually, when you actually do it, I create about 11 pieces of content a day. So I do it, I've been doing it for years. Yes, you have. You realize very quickly that you will be miserable if you're not your authentic self. But it's hard to figure out who your authentic self is. Because if you think about it, we've lived our whole life putting on a persona, whether we're at church or at school or with our parents, there's just, it's not like not us. It's just tweaked a little bit, right? Yeah, that's such a hard. Yes, and so we put ourselves out there on social media when it first started, we're putting out a persona of us and now it's changing and we've adapted to just be yourself, but who is that? Because I've never really been that. And I certainly haven't done it publicly, you know? Right. And so I'm talking to business owners and they're just like, well, what is it?   And then you start to find your voice and then you start to find what you actually think about things and what your opinions are about things. Cause we just live up here and we don't really know. We have to make a decision because we're not saying it here, you know? Yeah.  Right. And again, age helps with that because I feel like when you're still kind of morphing into, okay, who am I? We have so many different chapters of life. It's like with your parents growing up, being on your own in college and trying to figure out what you're gonna do, picking your spouse, then you get married. What that looks like with that whole new role.  I know what church has said, society, my husband, my parents, my kids. Now, when I break it all down, who did God make me? Who am I? What do I like? Tara's been, again, we've been friends for 20 plus years and she helps me think through. I mean, you guys gotta have people in your corner who know you really well and are not afraid to hurt your feelings, not because they're trying to hurt your feelings but because they love you so much and you can take that then. Because Tara loves me.  I go, oh, okay, that's right. That doesn't serve me anymore. That served me for a season. And now I'm growing up out of that season. I think sometimes when we go to a new season, we're so afraid of it because it's so unfamiliar. When you're 45 and now divorced after 20 plus years with three kids, my whole life, I had no idea who I was, what I'm supposed to do with my time. I mean, that just kind of happened for me living in a certain type of life. And then it changes. And in all of life, there's always a change. There's always change. If you can count on anything, it's change, you know? So it really, that's a really powerful thing you're saying that I hope people really hold on to. I mean, we love to be goofy and joke around and this is who we really are. But we also really want to stop wasting time being or doing something we weren't created to do or be because it's short-lived people. And there's only one of us. There's only one of me, one of her, one of you. And now we're in that season where hopefully our kids are grown and can manage themselves to a point. And now is our time. Now is our time.  It's just great. Like I think that like now is the time. Even if you're 65, you know, some of the most famous people and authors or whatever started at 65, you know? Like it doesn't matter. And the digital economy just makes it so easy for entry. There's no barrier, it doesn't have to cost anything. Do you know what I mean?  And honestly, it's because of what they're choosing to like and to watch. Like there's plenty of good out there. And obviously bad stuff generally gets the attention but you know, it's just a reflection of our society and who we are. So like if you start putting good out into the world, there you go, you know? Like it's easy means to do that if you're comfortable with that. Nobody needs to, it's not required. It's just like, anyway. So just where the attention is, it's just where, it's just true.  I talk to so many people my age that are completely ignoring. They don't even, you know, nothing. And that's fine. And you can completely ignore it but like the whole world is there. And you're missing learning that because the next realm of technology is going to be crazier.  And so you're not gonna understand it because you haven't done that first step, you know? So it'll be a little bit hard to adjust. Anyway, I don't like to ever be out of the loop. So, I know you're good about it. You helped me stay in it because I'm a little bit like, I have my own little show on Facebook, Tara's on the YouTube and everywhere else. And we're just, we're all kind of, you know, we're both trying to dabble and go, okay, what does this next thing look like? So that's awesome. Any, anything else they have for us? No, I didn't know where I got my coffee cup. I got more questions. Yeah, okay. Yeah, so I don't need to keep you forever. So, but yeah, so if you guys have questions or comments or thoughts on Gen X and weight loss and a night routine and, you know, like what your next steps are gonna be, let's talk about this. I'm starting to build a community, just starting to collect emails because I'm not sure what it's gonna look like. And I'll put the link in the description if you want to be a part of that. Just send an email and it's just, you know, it's called for women who dare.  And because the problem with that is that you need the community. You need encouragement. You need inspiration. And so that's what I'm thinking that that could be. But I don't know, we'll see, whatever you guys want. So yeah, that's an idea. But anyway, thank you for joining us today, Kristi. And good to see you guys. Well, I saw you. Good to see you New Zealand.